My trip to Pattaya

[cameraguymn]

So I was in Thailand and my Russian girl in Bali had to go back to Russia for a family emergency. I was really excited to spend a week with her in Bali - just a cheap short flight from Bangkok. So I had an extra week to hang out. I decided to call my ex from Russia. A sassy 23 year old to see if she'd be interested in joining me in Thailand. She lives outside of Moscow so she'd have to fly to Moscow and I was going to purchase a ticket for her through cheapoair.com.

We ended things but we still kept things lingering so I wanted to hang out with her and have a little fun and see if there was any hope.

Her only times abroad were with me in Turkey and now Thailand. She got in and of course Thailand was totally alien to her. The weather, the sights, the dinginess. I took her to have dinner and try out the local Thai cuisine. Of course we got business out of the way before dinner and it was great as I remembered.

We went to the shopping malls and got some things for the beach. A tiny bikini, some sandals, some gifts for home. I took her to Nana Plaza and her eyes lit up seeing so many women in bikinis but the thing that she was most amazed was the readily available weed.

I got her some and we took it back to the hotel room and she smoked it in the pool area at 3am. Of course the rooftop pool was closed but we went swimming and convinced her to go skinny dipping as an American thing.

The next day we went to Pattaya. Did the snorkeling, beach, para sailing, shopping thing. She told me it was the best vacation she's ever had.

A few nights later we went to the main street where all the bar girls and clubs were. She found it so fascinating to see so many girls on the street offering up themselves. We found a bar/club that said "Russian girls" so of course we went in. There were probably 8 Russian women there. Two were nice and the rest were pretty average. They all came over and had a chat with us. One stayed a little longer and expressed a wish to join us for some fun because my girl was pretty hot. So we set it up for the next night - she'd come and join us for some erotic fun. No biggie - I've had these encounters before. The bar girl/dancer was 19, cute but a little too much meat for me.

Well for some reason me and the girl got into an argument the next morning. Things got heated and I told her if she was going to keep on acting like a child we can end our trip. So instead of considering her faults and her mistake and slowing down she said I'm gone. I was a little surprised but oh well no big deal. I had my fun and I knew we were never going to work long term. Russian women are usually headstrong and stubborn but it seems I found the most stubborn one of them. I finally realized this fundamental trait of being so headstrong and stubborn was why we broke up in the first place. And now looking back at our relationship I finally saw it through a more wholistic lens of who she really was. I suppose you give your woman the benefit of the doubt or ignore things when she looks so good and the intimacy is so amazing.

I checked into our planned resort (where many Russians stay at) and I paid for the rest the nights at other hotel for her. I guess she was going to figure out how to get back to Bangkok and to the airport by herself. I met another Russian woman at the resort and had a great time with her for two days. She was on vacation by herself and looked like the kind of woman I would not be able to domesticate but she was sweet enough and we had a fine two days together. We still stay in touch but I'm not considering anything serious with her. She's 28, curvy and is the kind of woman that a nice guy like me won't be able to keep because there will always be rich Arabs and rich Russian guys going after her with gifts and big promises. For those of you curious. Sex was offered the first night, morning, night and next morning and I obliged. The common language we all speak though some countries do it slightly different - I enjoyed my SE Asian adventures but I prefer Russian women.

Somehow my ex got to the airport and back home. It was worth the $800 I paid for the Moscow to Bangkok flight to finally realize once once and for all she were not meant to be with each other.

[krimster2]

four years ago, I was in Amsterdam
gazillions of young russians out in the streets, I can hear their russian, ya skazal "privet"
i did stuff with young russian girls and weed in Amsterdam, that i would do time in prison for here in Texas, but is totally FINE there!!!
don't go to the bordellos in the red light district
search for an exclusive gentleman's club
mostly ukrainian super model lookin women work there, 9+
20 yr old blond hair blue eyes, OMG


I remember Bankgkock when I took my miltary leave there...
rode in on a bus,  smelled the chao phray before I was within 5 miles
ahhh, goo times, weird freakin language though
so much weird stuff in asia back then

 

[cameraguymn]

I am embarrassed to say I'm "dating" more 21 year old hotties now than when I was 21.

Amsterdam is full of Ukrainians who feel they are entitled to your money if you meet them - crazy.

[cameraguymn]

Let's see if this works.

[krimster2]

great pic, based on the sky, early evening?

I never had a sense of how to take pictures correctly, but you do
so here's my poor attempt...
please, don't laugh and hurt my fee fees

[cameraguymn]

your picture looks great. Is that your wife?

That picture was just at sunset. I have better pictures of the amazing sunset on the horizon but it shows her face so this is the only one that gives a little glimps of my ex in the context of Pattaya and our rooftop pool.

[krimster2]

da, my woman

[Shadow]

I am embarrassed to say I'm "dating" more 21 year old hotties now than when I was 21.

Amsterdam is full of Ukrainians who feel they are entitled to your money if you meet them - crazy.

Not just Amsterdam, about everywhere you go. And strange enough when they speak between themselves they never speak Ukrainian.....

[Boethius]

That depends entirely on where they are from.

If they are from Southern or Eastern Ukraine, they speak a mix of Russian and Ukrainian, which non native speakers will take as "Russian".  It is predominantly Russian, but peppered with Ukrainian.

If they're from Central Ukraine (say Kyiv), they will speak either "pure" Russian or "pure" Ukrainian.  But, they can speak both.

If they're from Western Ukraine, they will speak Ukrainian. 

This is another reason why Putin is so full of BS. 


PS - I have met a LOT of Ukrainian refugees.  My distant relatives stayed in my parents' home for 3 months when they arrived here.  NONE of them have asked for anything, or expected anything.  My mother bought all their groceries, but it wasn't expected by them.  She has plenty of money, it's no burden for her.  She suggested the family stay with her longer, so they could save their money, take English lessons, and establish themselves more.  But they didn't wish to be a "burden".  They rented an apartment in our neighbourhood, a little less than 1.5 km from my parents' home.  They visit once a week. 


We have worked with refugees.  They are disoriented, and depression sets in around eight months or so.  But never have they ever asked for a single thing from me, or any other volunteer I know.  We help them navigate the society, its systems, the bureaucracy (which is far simpler than in Ukraine).  They are grateful for any help they receive. 

[krimster2]

what's really weird is that uzbek copies a lot of russian words, and in taskent, I'd hear part of a conversation in Russian, and wonder WTF they were talking about, but they were speakin uzbek
and not Russian!

plus they speak Russian as well
this made communication VERY easy there not relying on english as an intermediary language
ya ponelle that Russian is the 'lingua franca' there
bes problem moy brat
so I could speak to everbody there and not just english speakin college students, like say in china


I also dressed as a "Man In Black" with local clothes/shoes to blend in
stunning how much Tashkent has changed for the better over the years
good quality hotels for foreigners now
and unlike russia, your credit cards all work fine there
and if some russian is pickin on ya there, locals will step in to defend ya!!!
slovo!!!

you want some photos?
you will not be disappointed in Uzbekistan
actually, the place will blow your mind!!!!


ludie!
Try the new Dick Taters Disinformatze Happy Meal at Vlad's Cafe
made with 100% Russian kartoshkie fertilized directly by russian casualties in the ukrainian kartoshkie fields

DA! PRAVDA!
brainwash the pesants with 'great patriotic war' kino for years and years
then your mafiya makes a move on neighboring mafiya turf to expand 'business'
hold up mirror to peasants faces
whisper in their ear, "doncha wanna be a great patriotic war hero?"

peasants all die
use printing presses to print rubles to buy off family
delegate which branch of the mafiya gets what asset from ukraine
everyone gives vlad a 'slice of the pie'
afterwards, life goes on like before the war
when economy slows again, then find next country to devour
and start showing more great patriotic war movies again!

as you can see, life is really simple over there
can you imagine the kinda reward I could get
for showing Putin how to win the war

what would I even ask for?
I dunno...
gold/platinum/palladium?
land?
some state owned company?
my own bank?
art work from the Hermitage?

not that I would EVER consider doing something like that
I took a mandated class on ethics, doncha know, hmmmphhhh

but ya know, now that you mention it....

[cameraguymn]

This ex found me on Facebook two months and liked a gift she gave me that I posted up. She has my instagram which I rarely post anything but my FB is where all my friends and family see me. Do I risk reaching out to her?

I guess she forgave me. She may never admit being wrong but maybe we can do another trip together. The sex is amazing - top 3. I'm sure if I offer to buy a ticket to Egypt she might jump at it. I don't mind a holiday with her doing some activities and having sex in the morning and at night everyday for a week.

[Trenchcoat]

This ex found me on Facebook two months and liked a gift she gave me that I posted up. She has my instagram which I rarely post anything but my FB is where all my friends and family see me. Do I risk reaching out to her?

I guess she forgave me. She may never admit being wrong but maybe we can do another trip together. The sex is amazing - top 3. I'm sure if I offer to buy a ticket to Egypt she might jump at it. I don't mind a holiday with her doing some activities and having sex in the morning and at night everyday for a week.

You seem to be stuck in a mindset of offering a girl an inducement (a free holiday/plane ticket) somewhere exotic to be with you. Of course once the inducement is taken by the girl it's only likely to be effective so long as unfortunately for you, that is why she is there.

That's ok if you want to live life, I don't blame you, it's no doubt fun, but as you have said on here you are now wanting a long term relationship, to settle down that usually entails.

I would say the two, the playboy lifestyle and the settled down lifestyle are two different methods.

The Playboy Lifestyle entails offering inducements to get the beautiful women with you, it's likely an easier way to get them up and get some fun, but when the party is over the temporary relationship ends and it likely leaves you feeling down, like a hang over. Then shortly after getting over the hangover you want the rise and excitement again. So it's kind of a continual cycle with lows and endorphin hitting highs.

The Settle Down Lifestyle entails finding a girl without offering an inducement, this is much harder so it won't get giving your endorphins and instant buzz, almost instant gratification style. You can choose to slog it out on Fdate or go for the method Krim suggests, or possibly just chatting to women here & there. The method Krim suggests may suit you better as while a bit of work is put in upfront I think the buzz from being an You Tube star or similar will keep you in that game. I think with Fdate or similar you would get too frustrated by the lack of instant payoff and revert to your old playboy ways. Essentially with the settle down method you are looking at going to visit the girl (flowers & small token gift on arrival is fine) but no inducements offered beforehand, no fancy concert tickets, tourist excursions, etc. Just go see her, walk around a park & talk, see any free attraction, etc. It's really all about getting to know the girl in a mundane setting, if she is not into you, that's fine, it's a bummer but you keep trying until you meet another. Fundamentally you know whether the girl is into you and not there for any other reason. Better than you find that out up front and she walks than waste time on the wrong girl for months. You get the present of being able to try again knowing that you have quickly seen off the wrong girl

So you just do that over and over until you meet a girl that doesn't walk and wants a second, third, etc date with you. Again make sure you offer no inducements for the second date. With the girl I am with we just agreed to meet again and that was it. It gave us both a chance to take stock and check we were both happy to go ahead with a second date. You'll want a girl who is happy to keep messaging you or phoning you or video chatting you whatever is your preferred method of communication. The main thing is that you are both happy to communicate with each other or at least content in between dates and happy to go on further dates with each other. You need to discuss both of your lives so that neither of you have a shallow or non existent idea of the other person's life. You don't need to disclose all but discuss whatever is happening in your daily lives.


I think your hardest task might be trying to tear yourself away from the playboy lifestyle CG. That you seem to have a strong independent income flow that many don't have means you can keep up such a lifestyle it seems and that is probably kind of a problem in a way, that there is no, 'oh shit, I've spent xxx amount and I never realised it was going to cost so much!!! ' sort of moment, followed by a quick run home to get back to the job to repair the bank account black hole.

The excitement is there ready to be tapped into and it's the easiest way to get a buzz.

[Trenchcoat]

I think the thing that kind of stands out to me CG is that you kind of seem to be hopeful of hooking a girl into a LTR with the Playboy method. That I would assume is almost always going to be a disaster. I'm not saying that no-one has ever done it before but I think the odds are likely pretty poor to possibly non existent. The thing with offering inducements is that it is kind of putting 'the exchange', 'the deal' on the table - 'I give you this.... if you give me that'. Sex might not be mentioned but if making an offer to the girl, the girl (FSW) will assume that is the trade off from her end, as in the FSU rarely does someone offer you something and not expect something back/the other feel obliged to repay it in kind, so I understand it.

[ML]

I don't mind a holiday with her doing some activities and having sex in the morning and at night everyday for a week.

You are assuming this week does not coincide with her 'days.'

[cameraguymn]

In the absence of true love why not enjoy the fruits of a young 20 something. I know I'm having a mid-life crisis. But the women on these trips are so much younger, firmer and lovelier than the ones where I am and the view is much better. Covid has given me a nice war chest and my work production is leveled off at a bare minimum but still a minimum. This year I will only do 2 more trips (30 days aggregate) as opposed to last year where I took 8 trips for nearly 6 months of travel. I am earnestly trying to find a kind decent Slavic woman that will kick my ass but nearly everyone ends up in a position where i am not happy or stops communicating.

A few we get into heated arguments about politics and how to handle situations. One Russian woman got pissed off at me for comparing her to Natalie Portman. A few show me in the end they are not what they profess to be. And of course some - the chemistry just isn't there.

So maybe my ex will be a nice diversion for a few days.

I am under no delusions that being a playboy will find a decent wife. The conditions is that I can't visit them in Russia and if the communications progress to where we should meet and there is some promise then I don't mind meeting her in a country that she can go to and we can have some fun. My next trips may include Cuba, Mexico, Egypt and Georgia again. I don't mind paying her way since Cheapoair allows me to purchase a ticket from Moscow, St. Petersburg or Sochi for them to anywhere they don't need a visa. If they can pay that is fine I'll take care of most of all of the costs when she lands.

Thank you to this board for recommending cheapoair to me. Some good has come out of this.

[Trenchcoat]

If she stops communicating, offer her another trip away, somewhere a bit different, particularly after a few months she will likely be up for another holiday. After all she accepted first time around on that basis. It's how that game works, no money no honey. The bang for your buck is only going to last so long, once the holiday is over the deal is done, unless you offer her another deal that's it, and that deal of course will only last so long. While you're messaging her afterwards with no further deal forthcoming she'll eventually lose interest. She is sat there expecting/hoping another deal will come forth, when that obviously isn't going to materialize she gives up. Such women have no interest in talking to you for free, that's not what they are there for/do. They are good time girls you are hiring, but without a direct exchange of money necessarily like a prostitute but a casual friendly understanding of payment in kind. They know they are beautiful everyone tells them so, so they are wanting a good time in exchange, a nice holiday away, etc as a result.

A girl who is into you won't stop communicating with you, they won't want to get into a heated argument with you for fear of losing you. If a girl is into you she will try and ignore the stuff that pisses her off. It won't necessarily be dispute free but she won't usually want to puch it so far in argument to destroy the relationship over it, and you likewise. If a relationship falls apart from an argument either you or her were probably not into each other enough aside from any hot steamy sex. People that are into each other enough don't want to walk away from each other.

Doing the same method is just likely to yield the same results.

I don't blame you for wanting fun, but you seem to want a LTR also and I think that is likely incompatible with using just the Playboy method. And it was an LTR your were asking for on here.

[cameraguymn]

well we'll be hanging out the entire time. I'm Mr. Fun. Going snorkeling, zip lining, ATV, - whatever tourist thing we'll do it together.  Funny thing is that all she eats or orders is pasta. She tried weed for the first time in Thailand and loved it.

You are assuming this week does not coincide with her 'days.'

[krimster2]

"I don't wanna be one of them old dewds chasing young girls in Phukut", he said, as he was chasing young girls in Phuqut...

dewd, yur FUNNY as hell, please tell us MORE of yur jokes

[ML]

Sorry myself and some others are posting some critical remarks.

Must just be the season.

So please don't let us shut you down . . .  as has happened to so many Trip Reports in the past.

[krimster2]

I may be the Troll-stoy of this board...
but, aren't the critics performing a valuable service by pointing out 'the faults' in the thoughts and actions of those who apparently lack this understanding?

for instance,
if I criticize Trump voters for bein indirectly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of their fellow Americans during the Covid pandemic, is that criticism unfair cuz it hurts Trump voter's 'fee fees'?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/11/new-revelations-emerge-on-how-donald-trump-killed-400000-coronavirus-pandemic/

and besides that, during the eclipse, I was taken up by the rapture, where the truth of everything was revealed to me, and it is this truth is that I write of here

in Matthew 6:24, Jesus declared, “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other
as a corollary, all the time you spend as a sex tourist, is time you coulda spent finding yur muse....
so which master are you really servin here?


 

[cameraguymn]

those dewds are 20 years my senior and look like grandpas. I look like a dad with a teenage daughter But yes soon I'll be entering that phase too.

"I don't wanna be one of them old dewds chasing young girls in Phukut", he said, as he was chasing young girls in Phuqut...

dewd, yur FUNNY as hell, please tell us MORE of yur jokes

[2tallbill]

This ex found me on Facebook two months and liked a gift she gave me that I posted up. She has my instagram which I rarely post anything but my FB is where all my friends and family see me. Do I risk reaching out to her?

I guess she forgave me. She may never admit being wrong but maybe we can do another trip together. The sex is amazing - top 3. I'm sure if I offer to buy a ticket to Egypt she might jump at it. I don't mind a holiday with her doing some activities and having sex in the morning and at night everyday for a week.

You are recycling girls.

Your time, health money are not infinite. If you are not seeking a wife, just say so and I will
stop posting comments about your trip report.

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'
Into the future
Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'
Into the future
I want to fly like an eagle
To the sea
Fly like an eagle
Let my spirit carry me
I want to fly like an eagle
'Til I'm free

Fly Like an Eagle by the Steve Miller Band

[cameraguymn]

Bill I need friends like you.

I probably won't have time to see her. I'd have to invest 6 days with her. I have two trips for this year. One trip will be to meet 35 year old Russian woman in Europe for a week, another week in Thailand to work, and another week in Vietnam to being two business projects and to fool around. My second trip will be maybe 10 days in Turkey to meet a Russian woman who owns a salon. She's less serious, younger and much more fun but she's the bread winner for her family. She's not as standoffish as the 35 year old Russian woman who is much more beautiful but a little colder in personality. But she really hates being identified as Russian. And I'll meet 1 of 2 women I've been communicating with the past 3 weeks.

You are recycling girls.

Your time, health money are not infinite. If you are not seeking a wife, just say so and I will
stop posting comments about your trip report.

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'
Into the future
Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'
Into the future
I want to fly like an eagle
To the sea
Fly like an eagle
Let my spirit carry me
I want to fly like an eagle
'Til I'm free

Fly Like an Eagle by the Steve Miller Band

[krimster2]

check out the gemstone market (mostly ruby and sapphire) in Ho Chi Minh City....
whatever the phuque you do, don't go during monsoon
also, when you shave there, splash some alchohol on yur face right after or ya might get a fungal rash
and yur gonna look like the world's worst acne sufferer

[cameraguymn]

Coincidently my good friend's family is in the gem business in Vietnam. They offered a business partnership to market their gems in America but I don't know that business. She has a toxic relationship with an American guy and I'm the shoulder to cry on. Unbeknownst to me she posted an personal ad for me in their FB group featuring Vietnamese women looking to date/marry foreigners. She said she received 300 messages for me. God bless her heart but the women who write me are not what I'm after. First of all they are not Slavic and they are not that attractive. But I've seen plenty of beautiful Vietnamese women I'd consider but not the ones that messaged her.

check out the gemstone market (mostly ruby and sapphire) in Ho Chi Minh City....
whatever the phuque you do, don't go during monsoon
also, when you shave there, splash some alchohol on yur face right after or ya might get a fungal rash
and yur gonna look like the world's worst acne sufferer