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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5500 on: October 15, 2017, 05:58:08 PM »
More !!



Russian President Vladimir Putin is far from reforming and is leading not only himself, but the whole of Russia to destruction.

This opinion was expressed by the famous Russian political scientist Stanislav Belkovsky on the air of the radio station Ekho Moskvy .

Putin  is leading not only himself, but the whole of Russia to destruction.


"Vladimir Vladimirovich simply went to the stage of self-destruction, he destroys the system that brought him up, but the KGB, the Cheka and the FSB, which he no longer exists in his mind, destroys the Russian Federation." He turned it off from the Western funding on which the Russian Federation was built. He turned it off from Western technologies, which are an immanent condition for the existence of the Russian Federation, because without this modern technology this country can not exist

http://vesti-ua.net/novosti/politika/49284-specialisty-govoryat-o-samoy-posledney-stadii-u-putina.htm
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5501 on: October 15, 2017, 06:03:26 PM »
I see you guys are still hoping to bury Russia? Good luck!

I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't want Russia buried - I like it too much.  I just want to see Putin gone, together with the rest of his corrupt kleptocracy, so that your beautiful country may have a chance to regain the position it had before he came to power.

And, like pretty much everyone who comments on the forum, I want Russia out of Ukraine - completely - so that they too can have a chance of reducing their corruption and increasing everything good without having to continually worry about attacks from the East.

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5502 on: October 15, 2017, 06:08:56 PM »
Enjoy reading "ua.net"))))))))))
Putin's rating is extremely high, he is supported by the vast majority.

While you're "sitting" here, I go to RF regularly and know what people think and how they live (not all of them of course but still).
Life is different there now but not dreadful .
All these "black hundreds" and other horrors are just your imagination.
Russia is as strong as it was before- even stronger.
(Heroyam slava ahahaaaaaaaaaaa- where are these heroes???)
You're funny.

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5503 on: October 15, 2017, 06:11:19 PM »
  I just want to see Putin gone,   

You?
I hope he will stay.

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5504 on: October 15, 2017, 06:21:21 PM »
You?
I hope he will stay.

Then we'll just have to agree to disagree.  ::)

I guess from what you wrote to JayH...

...While you're "sitting" here, I go to RF regularly and know what people think and how they live (not all of them of course but still).

...that you're still living in the USA.  Have you seen my photos of Krasnodar in the Gallery?  I hope the city still looks like I remember it.

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5505 on: October 15, 2017, 06:31:42 PM »
You can disagree, but I am a RF citizen))

Have I seen your pics? Where?

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5506 on: October 15, 2017, 06:40:00 PM »
Actually, every time I go to Krasnodar I don't recognize it- it is growing so fast! I don't know where this crisis is but they build hundreds and thousands of new buildings and people buy new apartments all the time! Amazing.


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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5507 on: October 15, 2017, 06:43:26 PM »
I saw the pics- the old part looks the same of course.

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5508 on: October 15, 2017, 06:45:00 PM »
Actually, every time I go to Krasnodar I don't recognize it- it is growing so fast! I don't know where this crisis is but they build hundreds and thousands of new buildings and people buy new apartments all the time! Amazing.

What country will Krasnodar be in when Putin's Soviet Russian Federation disintegrates?
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5509 on: October 15, 2017, 06:52:02 PM »
What country will Krasnodar be in when Putin's Soviet Russian Federation disintegrates?
Russia (Russian Federation)
Or you have another suggestion?

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5510 on: October 15, 2017, 06:54:59 PM »
Forgot to add - HEROYAM SLAVA
ahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5511 on: October 16, 2017, 02:01:45 AM »
Actually, every time I go to Krasnodar I don't recognize it- it is growing so fast! I don't know where this crisis is but they build hundreds and thousands of new buildings and people buy new apartments all the time! Amazing.

Hmm, as we go to the same part of Russia - but in my case Sochi - and though I'm not a RF citizen, I spend  half the year there -  I have to tell you that there are loads of unfinished construction projects - domestic and commercial. 

Perhaps Krasnodar is different..

As for VVP I seriously doubt his ratings ...  esp in more recent times... 


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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5512 on: October 16, 2017, 02:21:23 AM »
What country will Krasnodar be in when Putin's Soviet Russian Federation disintegrates?

??

JayH,

whilst I do not approve of some of the 'away games' the current incumbent in the Kremlin oversees and the laws felt necessary to prevent discussion of 'right to self determination' WITHIN Russia - so ironic - given current near neighbour foreign policy - I seriously doubt you'll find too many folk in Kuban seeking independence ...



You haven't set foot in Russia for a long time and gain your 'info' from Ukraine's media ... 

Just HOW out of touch with reality ARE you ?

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5513 on: October 16, 2017, 04:23:35 AM »
msmob , Jay just wants to tease me. I don't think any sensible person can speak of "disintegration" of Russia, leave Kuban alone.

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5514 on: October 22, 2017, 09:32:37 PM »

The net is closing --piece by piece



Russian-American relations will fundamentally change on February 2,


 
The August 2, 2017 law to counter Russian aggression requires that the Trump Administration identify in a report to Congress all Russians who have illegally acquired wealth in their own country and then invested it in the US and begin to confiscate those funds which now amount to more than a trillion US dollars, according to Andrey Piontkovsky.

“In effect,” the Russian commentator says, this law is “a declaration outside the law as a criminal community of the entire higher Russian leadership, which is keeping in the United States the wealth it has stolen in Russia,” up to and including “the first persons of the state,” including Vladimir Putin.


“As soon as these people will be officially named in the report to Congress, it will be impossible to turn the situation around because the laws and judicial procedures will begin to act independently from the desires of particular politicians,” and that reality is something that is likely to define relations between the two countries over the next three years.

On the one hand, Piontkovsky suggests, it is leading to visits to Washington by the Russian owners of this wealth or their representatives who are seeking to find a way out of this threat to their holdings. And on the other, he implies, the Russian government and those in the US who do not want to see a deterioration in ties will be exploring how to avoid this outcome.

Given that the kleptocratic nature of the Putin regime has been known for a long time, one might recently ask why American laws against money laundering haven’t been applied to Russians. The answer, the Russian analyst says, is that the West has been “to a certain degree complicit in these unethical actions.”


Too many people in too many Western countries either wanted to take advantage of the money Russian oligarchs and officials were placing in Western accounts or did not want to do anything that would upset the apple cart of relations between the two countries.

But now despite Donald Trump’s opposition, Congressional action has fundamentally changed the situation

http://euromaidanpress.com/2017/10/22/russian-american-relations-will-fundamentally-change-on-february-2-piontkovsky-says-euromaidan-press/
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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5515 on: October 22, 2017, 09:41:06 PM »
Just what Trump needs at the moment -- an endorsement from Putin !!


Putin blames West for all of Russia’s problems but refuses to criticize Trump



http://euromaidanpress.com/2017/10/21/putin-blames-west-for-all-of-russias-problems-but-refuses-to-criticize-trump-euromaidan-press/
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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5516 on: October 23, 2017, 11:00:55 AM »
JayH, just one question- where do you get these junk mass media? Seriously, you need to be picky.
haha- Euromaidanpress?

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5517 on: October 23, 2017, 11:48:54 AM »
All the same, with almost half of Russia's GDP wiped off since 2013, it certainly must have affected people's livelihood.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&idim=country:RUS:IND:GBR&hl=en&dl=en
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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5518 on: October 23, 2017, 01:25:36 PM »
JayH, just one question- where do you get these junk mass media? Seriously, you need to be picky.
haha- Euromaidanpress?


Euromaidanpress is an NGO. It mostly translates articles about Ukraine into English. That includes articles from the Russian press.
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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5519 on: October 23, 2017, 03:07:28 PM »
msmob , Jay just wants to tease me. I don't think any sensible person can speak of "disintegration" of Russia, leave Kuban alone.

May be so, then why the need for laws[ In Russia ] forbidding it's discussion in the media - whilst stirring up 'self-determination' in 'Novorossoya' or "Malarusiya"?

[ For Doll :  If a nation feels so comfortable in it's skin, why the need to stir sh1t in neighbours, whilst forbidding such talk, at home?  ]


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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5520 on: October 23, 2017, 04:18:20 PM »
What is NGO?

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5521 on: October 23, 2017, 04:28:23 PM »

msmob, I was asked a question about Kuban- I answered. What does it have to do with Ukraine?
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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5522 on: October 23, 2017, 05:44:28 PM »
What is NGO?

Non-Governmental Organisation.

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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5523 on: October 24, 2017, 03:39:29 AM »
Euromaidanpress is an NGO. It mostly translates articles about Ukraine into English. That includes articles from the Russian press.
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Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #5524 on: October 24, 2017, 04:13:15 AM »
msmob, I was asked a question about Kuban- I answered. What does it have to do with Ukraine?

Why would Russian's leader speak of 'Novorossiya / Malarossiya (sp) ' when telling his own people they aren't allowed to even read of separatist movements ?

When Chech'niya didn't even want to join the RF - when the USSR broke up - we saw what happens, Grozny flattened - by bombing - yet the RU media screamed  - 'look what Kyiv is doing to it's citizens in Donetsk / Lughansk' when trying to stop separatists - and nearly succeeded - save for 'help' from ... the east ..

I'm talking about double stds  ..Can I be any clearer ?
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