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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2017, 11:28:23 AM »
Many years ago I lost wonderful man, because I thought:"No, I can not live in his country".
He was absolutly for me: educated, loving, succesful. But I was soo stupid.
Where he was from?

I personally trying to not considerng man from countries I don't want to live. But anyway can something happens and I meet great russian man and leave my dream about american or europian man behind. Who knows? But now I haven't meet such great person. So sitting and choosing as "greed and wanting a country" :D

a lot of money person can live everywhere: 1 month in France, 1 month in Russia, 1 month in Popua. But person will live as queen, but not as pleb.
No, the lot of money person can't live everywhere... The civil life depend on civil rights and level of development both of economy and education peoples. You can't live as a Queen if other peopls around you would suffering.
Even if you stay along at home it's not mean you along. A lot of people invisible should to work around you to make comfort for you. The electricity should make the specialist, the gaz, the cleaning street and so on. So you comfort not depend on you money but depend on qualified peoples and how it work around you. And this work depend on economic development. So better to be strong middle class at civil country around the same neibohoods than Queen of garbage Popua with plague and around as you say plebs :)
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2017, 11:55:13 AM »
Yes, of course :).

It is choice: to be Queen or pleb  :D.

All opinions have the right to exist  :).
« Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 12:03:50 PM by Madlen »
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2017, 12:31:20 PM »

In your opinion would most Russian and Ukrainian women reject an American expat living a good life in Batumi, Georgia?


1) I think, yes. But it is only my subjective opinion. You can check on site. It is easy task  :).

Why I think like this?
Because most of our women never were not in USA , not in Europe.
They think, those territories - a paradise without problems. They marry with first man, relocate and then live unhappily or divorce.

Of cource, there are good couples.
 
2) I hope, you need not in "most of...". Harem it is headache for man  :D.

3) There are wise women: they learn situation, they analyze the pros and cons and only then they deside, that to live with you in Gergia will be the best option.

4) There are women, who do not want official family. They prefer "guest marriage". So they will agree to be with you in Gergia from time to time. Why not?

Life is multivariant.


« Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 01:02:39 PM by Madlen »
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2017, 12:56:39 PM »
Where he was from?

He was Turks from Antalya.
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2017, 04:22:27 PM »
The thing is, would you decide to move to a new place just for a man or woman?  I wouldn't. You need to enjoy where you live also and find things to do for yourself there.

I would say it takes a few months to know.

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2017, 05:20:47 PM »
My better half moved for me.  Initially, he didn't want to move as he said he was a "fish in water" where he lived. 


I don't think it is any different than spouses moving across the country for a better job.
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2017, 09:53:32 PM »
I don't think it is any different than spouses moving across the country for a better job.

I have moved to several different states in USA to remain gainfully employed.

But all around me over the years, and now also, others take the route of taking unemployment to maximum extent and then going on welfare.
All because they don't want to move.
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2017, 10:50:37 AM »
I was all set to retire and move to Crimea--then everything changed! When Crimea was Ukraine, the cost of living was low. We would have had a dacha and flat, all paid off. Very little taxes. Low cost for food and everything.

NOW, the price of everything is 2 or 3 times as much. NOW you have property taxes, taxes on your vehicle, and so on!

Crimea is prone to earthquakes.

So everybody is different.

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2017, 01:48:04 PM »
My better half moved for me.  Initially, he didn't want to move as he said he was a "fish in water" where he lived. 

Nice. He is wise man. He knew that first-his woman, then all all....
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2017, 07:53:20 PM »
I was all set to retire and move to Crimea--then everything changed! When Crimea was Ukraine, the cost of living was low. We would have had a dacha and flat, all paid off. Very little taxes. Low cost for food and everything.

NOW, the price of everything is 2 or 3 times as much. NOW you have property taxes, taxes on your vehicle, and so on!

Crimea is prone to earthquakes.

So everybody is different.


Consider Batumi in the Republic of Georgia. Most everyone speaks Russian here. Once you pay your registration tax on your vehicle there are no more taxes on it. Property taxes? very, very low. Stay a year with no visa needed and getting another year by doing a border jump to Turkey a short drive away. Almost no bureaucracy. Open a bank account or business in a few hours. The ATMs here pay in GEL (Georgian Lari) and USD. The Georgians LIKE Americans and Ukrainians. Wayne, they would welcome you both with open arms. Think outside the box. 

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2017, 11:52:08 AM »
Maxx2 when you ucranian girl or women come to you and you have twice how Georgian man had pestered to her is it say for you nothing? :popcorn:
I mean any conflict can lead into not good situation for Maxx2 where he haven't know the low, the legality and so on. It's quite dangerouse such situations and not pleasant for women also.
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2017, 01:56:34 AM »
Maxx2 when you ucranian girl or women come to you and you have twice how Georgian man had pestered to her is it say for you nothing? :popcorn:
I mean any conflict can lead into not good situation for Maxx2 where he haven't know the low, the legality and so on. It's quite dangerouse such situations and not pleasant for women also.

We just smile at each other - talk in English - and pretend neither of us understood ;)

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2017, 02:02:48 AM »
It's hurd to explain in english what's I mean for Maxx2. But I can't agree with the way of living of Maxx2 and considering it quite dangerouse. ::)
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2017, 04:11:38 PM »
I'm fairly certain Maxx is over 60 years of age, so he's capable of taking care of himself.
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2017, 04:32:27 PM »
My home town is very close to Abkhazia, so I know those people a little. They are VERY friendly, reserved.
So these  possible conflicts are just stereotypes.

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2017, 05:12:28 PM »
I was all set to retire and move to Crimea--then everything changed! When Crimea was Ukraine, the cost of living was low. We would have had a dacha and flat, all paid off. Very little taxes. Low cost for food and everything.

NOW, the price of everything is 2 or 3 times as much. NOW you have property taxes, taxes on your vehicle, and so on!

Crimea is prone to earthquakes.

So everybody is different.

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2017, 05:32:15 PM »
More info

ruble equals 0.017 US Dollar

 Ukrainian Hryvnia equals
0.038 US Dollar



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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2017, 05:41:12 PM »
More info:

BEFORE 2014 $1 USD was about 8 grivnas
and $1 USD was about 33 roubles (maybe 30)

NOW
1 US Dollar equals
59.27 Russian Ruble

1 US Dollar equals
26.65 Ukrainian Hryvnia

So, Wayne where is this "Earthquake"?

You've gained from it.
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2017, 06:24:24 PM »

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2017, 05:20:34 AM »
I can't speak on whether the doctor you were communicating with was sincere or crazy but men wanting to briefly live in Russia or Ukraine or move there long-term is not a red flag. A doctor may have a lot of money saved and want a break from the long hours. It is easy for doctors to find work so leaving a good job is not so hard for them. Older men particularly might consider moving if they have the right financial situation. Some men believe that months of email/skype, spending a few weeks at a time with a woman, and then marrying her after a 90 day visa too risky. They would prefer living several months with a woman first.

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2017, 01:04:02 PM »
It's hurd to explain in english what's I mean for Maxx2. But I can't agree with the way of living of Maxx2 and considering it quite dangerouse. ::)


I just caught this. The woman that visited me told me she noticed that theft seems much less here in Georgia than in Lviv Ukraine. That she noticed a lack of car alarms. And when she was out touring Tbilisi and Batumi at night without me she never felt at danger. I just got off the phone with my 33 year old daughter. She lives in Minnesota, a place known for its low crime. In Minneapolis she tells me that she always has black guys following her and trying to make conversation. Yesterday a guy outside her building was approached by one of these people and was asked for his cell phone. He didn't give it so he was beaten and the police had to come. I am teaching at this private school run by a Russian woman who is also a US citizen. She and her husband, also a US citizen, chose Batumi in preference to living in Los Angeles where they had lived for 10 years. It is very safe here. Georgia is in my opinion very misunderstood. That Ukrainian woman that came to visit me, her colleagues at her work cautioned her she might be kidnaped and have her body parts harvested. She now sees how silly they are.

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2017, 03:43:56 AM »
I can't speak on whether the doctor you were communicating with was sincere or crazy but men wanting to briefly live in Russia or Ukraine or move there long-term is not a red flag. A doctor may have a lot of money saved and want a break from the long hours. It is easy for doctors to find work so leaving a good job is not so hard for them. Older men particularly might consider moving if they have the right financial situation. Some men believe that months of email/skype, spending a few weeks at a time with a woman, and then marrying her after a 90 day visa too risky. They would prefer living several months with a woman first.

While these are valid points, they miss the biggest hurdle to such an expedition: the fact that they would not be able to get a visa to do this.  I did think about doing this myself (many years ago), but my understanding, from what has been posted here many times, is that anyone wanting to live in the FSU will initially be subject to a 90/180 or 180/365 type of restriction, and presumably there are far more hoops to be jumped through to obtain this type of visa than the minor inconveniences required for a tourist visa.

Perhaps mhr7, Deccie, TwoBitBandit or one of the other residents of Russia or Ukraine could enlighten me (and others).

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2017, 02:28:40 PM »
While these are valid points, they miss the biggest hurdle to such an expedition: the fact that they would not be able to get a visa to do this.  I did think about doing this myself (many years ago), but my understanding, from what has been posted here many times, is that anyone wanting to live in the FSU will initially be subject to a 90/180 or 180/365 type of restriction, and presumably there are far more hoops to be jumped through to obtain this type of visa than the minor inconveniences required for a tourist visa.

Perhaps mhr7, Deccie, TwoBitBandit or one of the other residents of Russia or Ukraine could enlighten me (and others).

I am in the 180/365 category and we spend time together in other places to bump up the time, together.  Getting married means that I  could apply for temp residency with a view to the full banana.... I do business in other nations so we just plan our time apart

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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2017, 05:05:21 PM »
I am in the 180/365 category and we spend time together in other places to bump up the time, together.  Getting married means that I  could apply for temp residency with a view to the full banana.... I do business in other nations so we just plan our time apart.

Thanks, Moby.  The other names I suggested are all now full-time permanent residents, which is why I thought it would be instructive to find out from them how they managed it.
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Re: Man ask to living at Russia with me
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2017, 05:14:58 PM »
Thanks, Moby.  The other names i suggested are all now full-time permanent residents, which is why I thought it would be instructive to find out from them how they managed it.

I'm not a permanent resident officially but live and work here 11 months out of the year. That's why I chose the option of 'resident'. My employer provides me with the necessary paperwork to do this.
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