Crimea joining Russian Federation

[justme100]

So do you really think that Russia will pay ANY price  for water for Krim? LOL,

 How about twice the present gas bill per month? Water's certainly not that expensive unless you get very thirsty.. Then it's priceless!

They made a dam, so Russia won't pay anything already) During the month the urgent works were completed so not a single location in Crimea is not dependent now on the water in the sence of getting thirsty. This water was used mainly for irrigation, about 85%of irrigation water was from this channel, so I believe agriculture sector will be half dead for some time.

[AkMike]

The canal is 400 km long. it's downhill so pumps aren't needed but the last 100 kms are uphill. Since the 'annexation' the pumps weren't serviced nor started by the Ukrainians. (Why should they?)
 
 The dam was made in the last couple of weeks not since the invasion started. And I have been told that it was recently taken down after Putler coughed up some cash.
 The crop failure is Russia's problem.

[sleepycat]

hmmmmm...
Tourist industry already dead, now as per justme100 the agricultural section is dying as well.
What industries are left in Krim and which one will go up in smoke next I wonder...

Will Crimea's drop in GDP this year be worst than that of mainland Ukraine?

[calmissile]

What's the source of this information?

The source of information is from many of us that have property, family, and friends in Crimea.  We do not need media sources to verify the conditions in Crimea.  The information comes from ordinary people living there.   I consider it much more reliable than a Russian propagandist that comes to a forum to spread the Kremlin line of BS.

Hopefully, after Crimea is returned to Ukraine you can can found and deported to your 'Mother Russia'.

Here is a link that spells out fairly accurately what we are told by local residents trapped in Crimea.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/crimeans-get-russian-price-shock-348955.html

[AkMike]

From what I've heard the old folks, the pensioners, are the ones hit hardest with the food prices. They were promised Russian pensions ( about 5X the Ukrainian ones) yet haven't seen one kopek of the promise..

[Doll]

Hopefully, after Crimea is returned to Ukraine you can can found and deported to your 'Mother Russia'.

 

[calmissile]

From what I've heard the old folks, the pensioners, are the ones hit hardest with the food prices. They were promised Russian pensions ( about 5X the Ukrainian ones) yet haven't seen one kopek of the promise..

Very true!
Putin's promises are like all the other ones.  Anytime he opens his mouth, you know  he is lying.  Just like the assurances he gave weeks ago that he was immediately pulling his troops back from the border.  What a liar.  Even Khruschev did not tell so bold of lies.

Do you really think Russia is going to spend billions of dollars on infrastructure on a property that is in question if it will remain in Russia's hands?  The smart thing for Russia to do is to dole out piddly little assistance and projects to have the appearance of doing something.   Not until the end of the 'wait and see' will they do anything significant.  Considering all of the reports about the Russian economy, it's unlikely they would have the money to keep their promises in Crimea in the for-seeable future.

Not only has Russia created deplorable conditions for the residents of Crimea, they also have killed the tourist trade.  My wife reports that the tourist trade is dead in Yalta and the beaches are empty.  The local residents that depend on the summer tourist trade to sustain them for the rest of  the year are in dire straits.   There are numerous written news reports that confirm this condition.

Any Ukrainian citizen that thinks life will be better in Russia should pack their bags and move there.  The door was open prior to the conflicts and they chose to stay in Ukraine.  Not until Putin stirred the pot was there a problem.  Offering pro-Russian Ukrainian citizens the option of moving to Russia is no different than offering the Ukrainian citizens in Crimea the option to move to the mainland after the invasion by Russia!

[AkMike]

Not until Putin stirred the pot was there a problem.  Offering pro-Russian Ukrainian citizens the option of moving to Russia is no different than offering the Ukrainian citizens in Crimea the option to move to the mainland after the invasion by Russia!

 Don't forget the stacked deck for the vote about annexation.. After all 123% is a good turn out since less than 20% of the locals really voted.

 

[Belvis]

I'm amused  reading about empty shelves in Crimea. OK, guys need their small malicious joy, we're all humans, so I have no intentions to break their misbelief
I decided to send my family in health resort with mineral mud baths near Saky, west part of Crimea.


Main problem is transportation. Usual train routes through Ukraine are disrupted, and new lines are in stage of arrangement that takes time. The most convenient way to get there is by flights, however it seems all direct flights from Moscow are bought in advance till July, except business class. I have to use connection flights.
Well, we have to pay price, no regrets 

[AkMike]

Cool! 

 At least the resorts and beaches won't be crowded! 

[Muzh]

I'm amused  reading about empty shelves in Crimea. OK, guys need their small malicious joy, we're all humans, so I have no intentions to break their misbelief
I decided to send my family in health resort with mineral mud baths near Saky, west part of Crimea.


Main problem is transportation. Usual train routes through Ukraine are disrupted, and new lines are in stage of arrangement that takes time. The most convenient way to get there is by flights, however it seems all direct flights from Moscow are bought in advance till July, except business class. I have to use connection flights.
Well, we have to pay price, no regrets 

Are those in the picture your family?

[AkMike]

It's an advert pic from a resort site.

http://on7sky.com/

[JohnDearGreen]

Crimea Act II
the dons meet to discuss how to divide Crimea
http://www.mk.ru/incident/2014/05/25/podrobnosti-vorovskoy-shodki-v-moskve-mafiozi-obsuzhdali-kak-delit-kryim.html

[Wayne]

A lot more flights from Moscow to Simferopol have been added, including some low-cost ones. There is a new airlines.
 
University tuition has increased, while the number of students has decreased.
 
Costs of building materials has increased, as most other goods.
 
Number of tourists is way down!
 
Good news! It only took three hours to fill out the RF visa petition on-line.
 
It looks like the two girls have the whole beach to themselves. Hope the stones don't hurt their tender feet.

[Maxx2]

Nice to hear your reports Wayne. Thank you.

[Shadow]

The drop in tourism this year was expected. Once the tensions are over and a special visa and tax regime is made things will pick up.

[Maxx2]

The drop in tourism this year was expected. Once the tensions are over and a special visa and tax regime is made things will pick up.

Needing a visa is something that should be dropped in Crimea. Let that be a visa free zone. That would get them more money anyway by increased tourism. Russians can be such blockheads.

[Shadow]

Needing a visa is something that should be dropped in Crimea. Let that be a visa free zone. That would get them more money anyway by increased tourism. Russians can be such blockheads.

That would be exactly my suggestion. Make Crimea a visa free zone, as well as a tax haven which would make consumer goods cheap. With some new infrastructure that would boost tourism through the roof.

[lordtiberius]

Maybe Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossentia, Dagestan, maybe to pick up tourism, they just need some good graphics:

[Maxx2]

That would be exactly my suggestion. Make Crimea a visa free zone, as well as a tax haven which would make consumer goods cheap. With some new infrastructure that would boost tourism through the roof.

I ran such ideas across a Russian businessman and he said to me "We don't think like that."

[Maxx2]

Maybe Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossentia, Dagestan, maybe to pick up tourism, they just need some good graphics:

I am part New Jersey Sicilian (on my mother's side) and that looks like my family. My daughters tell me I look like Tony Soprano. 

[Shadow]

I ran such ideas across a Russian businessman and he said to me "We don't think like that."

As some already suspect me of being on the Kremlin payroll, time to become economic advisor.

[GQBlues]

That would be exactly my suggestion. Make Crimea a visa free zone, as well as a tax haven which would make consumer goods cheap. With some new infrastructure that would boost tourism through the roof.

Hell, visa free and turn that area into an Eastern European version of Atlantic City/Monte Carlo resort, it can definitely boost the Crimeans livelihood and living standard overnight. Once they complete something like that, then demand heavy visa vedding for Americans and Ukrainians. Create a prolonged waiting period prior to issuance.

[sleepycat]

Rather than the visa issue, probably the main hindrance to attracting western tourists back is the current western media portrait of Putin & Russia and the lack of direct flights from Europe into Crimea. The Russian mafia probably will be very supportive of the idea of turning the area into a casino town.

[lordtiberius]

The Russian mafia probably will be  . . .

Seriously, is that where you want to spend your vacay?