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« Reply #5450 on: September 14, 2017, 11:42:35 PM »
The US Homeland Security has finally banned the use of Kapersky Lab software for 'security reasons'.  Agencys have 1 month to map out the use and 3 to begin removal of the software.




http://themoscowtimes.com/news/united-states-bans-kaspersky-lab-products-over-security-concerns-58942

I have used this firm for AntiVirus for years and in tests against competitors - it has always fared well.  I have no idea if they co-operate with Russian secret services.......

An IT owner I know refuses to fit Chinese routers and switches in his network - preferring Cisco - lest there is some firmware that could be invoked ..

Bear in mind the US has admitted spying on EU leaders ...




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« Reply #5451 on: September 15, 2017, 12:07:19 AM »
If so then Russia will continue to alienate itself from the rest of the world. The west can get along fine w/o Russia.

Untrue, many nations rely - heavily - on RU for Energy... like it or not


  But Russia continues to  go down the path of imperialism and cause problems and sponsor terrorism to that end.

More accurately, it's leaders seem to believe in resetting borders based on ethnic Russians presence from Soviet times whilst discouraging political opposition from within. 

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« Reply #5452 on: September 15, 2017, 12:15:37 AM »
And yet anonther round of santions is extended against Russia from the EU.   One of these day Russia might have to consider playing nice with otheres so it doesn't have a 'time out' for being bad.


http://eutoday.net/news/politics/2017/eu-sanctions-against-russia-extended

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« Reply #5453 on: September 15, 2017, 12:25:31 AM »
An IT owner I know refuses to fit Chinese routers and switches in his network - preferring Cisco - lest there is some firmware that could be invoked ..

Cisco routers are on of the most counterfeited hardware appliances on the market    :)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/billsinger/2011/11/08/clever-cisco-china-counterfeit-conspiracy-crushed/#70dcdc9a118c

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2920032/uk-gang-arrested-for-exporting-10-million-of-fake-cisco-gear-to-us.html

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« Reply #5454 on: September 15, 2017, 12:31:55 AM »
For the 5th day in a row hundreds of thousands of Russians have had their days disrupted by a wave of telephone bomb threats scattered across Russia.


http://www.rferl.org/a/russia-mysterious-bomb-threats-theories/28736860.html

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« Reply #5455 on: September 15, 2017, 01:59:19 AM »
Cisco routers are on of the most counterfeited hardware appliances on the market    :)

So you buy from Cisco partners .... ? ))

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« Reply #5456 on: September 15, 2017, 02:04:56 AM »
For the 5th day in a row hundreds of thousands of Russians have had their days disrupted by a wave of telephone bomb threats scattered across Russia.


http://www.rferl.org/a/russia-mysterious-bomb-threats-theories/28736860.html

As opposed to real explosion in London ?

Why is it folks wish bad on a people in general because of the actions of leaders or idiots who think they are freedom fighters...

I have no time for folks who distrust Americans or Russians....   I spent too many years being told Irish people were terrorists and the British were 100 percent entitled to be in Northern Ireland

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« Reply #5457 on: September 15, 2017, 02:14:05 AM »
As opposed to real explosion in London ?

Why is it folks wish bad on a people in general because of the actions of leaders ...

I have no time for folks who distrust ............. Russians....   
They would be the same people  that are in denial of the murderous actions being committed in Ukraine by Russian military !
When the Russian people have the guts to stand against the actions of their leaders --then your comments might mean something.

Thousands of Ukrainians killed-- millions displaced --the whole country paying for Russia's actions -- and you whine about  Mikes post-sheesh. :deadhorse:
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #5458 on: September 15, 2017, 02:51:41 AM »
LONDON? How about the car bombing assassination of a Col. in Ukraines Miltary Intelligence recently? In the middle of Kyiv in traffic.  Oh and there is also the woman in the car that lost he leg as well as the 10 year old in th back seat.


Of course we all know who's behind it.

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« Reply #5459 on: September 15, 2017, 11:33:57 AM »
They would be the same people  that are in denial of the murderous actions being committed in Ukraine by Russian military !
When the Russian people have the guts to stand against the actions of their leaders --then your comments might mean something. 

Yawns ... When WHERE you in Russia, last ? ... Many Russians are sad that the 'Ukrainians brothers'  and they are at loggerheads .... 

Thousands of Ukrainians killed-- millions displaced --the whole country paying for Russia's actions -- and you whine about  Mikes post-sheesh. :deadhorse:

Many of the Ukrainians who died now didn't feel Ukrainian - esp after their believing Moscow's anti-maidan 'Nazi -American' rhetoric ....   :(

Lots of British thought Irish people were bad for sheltering terrorists in the South ...





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« Reply #5460 on: September 15, 2017, 02:00:34 PM »
Yawns ... When WHERE you in Russia, last ? ... Many Russians are sad that the 'Ukrainians brothers'  and they are at loggerheads .... 

Many of the Ukrainians who died now didn't feel Ukrainian - esp after their believing Moscow's anti-maidan 'Nazi -American' rhetoric ....   :(

Lots of British thought Irish people were bad for sheltering terrorists in the South ...

Do we both speak English?  Or is Moby drinking again?  None of the second to the last sentence makes sense to me.  How can someone who's dead think anything?  Of course, English English might be totally different than American English.
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« Reply #5461 on: September 15, 2017, 02:39:07 PM »
And yet anonther round of santions is extended against Russia from the EU.   One of these day Russia might have to consider playing nice with otheres so it doesn't have a 'time out' for being bad.

 :)

In the not-too-distant future, Europeans will be clamoring and tripping over each other vying to be Russia's lap mate. A little more Arctic ice melt, the global market, notably Europeans, will be paying Russian toll to cut almost a month off their Asian trade route.

~"...What else is destabilizing, he says, is Russia's military build up along something called the Northern Sea Route skirting the Russian Arctic coastline. The route could become an alternative to the Suez Canal, saving huge amounts of time and money for the commercial shipping industry.

I have heard as much as 28 days decrease in some of the transit from the northern European markets to the Asian markets. That is an incredible economic opportunity. And it could be a very boon— big boon to business around the world....."
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« Reply #5462 on: September 15, 2017, 10:49:58 PM »
Amazing how we still have so much ignorance being posted by russophiles here on forum.
Apart from the invasions of Ukraine -Russia is and has been conducting  an all out cyber war -- as well as "conventional" terrorism as a matter of course>

In the news today -- the next continuing and upgraded phase of Russian terrorism in Ukraine is attack in all sorts of ways across Ukraine.Car bombings in Kyiv.Lviv,Odesa in recent weeks, assassinations, mysterious deaths of targeted people have been common place.Scattergun attacks in public places is now on the agenda -- all with the intent of trying to convince Ukrainians that the government is not in control--   and to of course  --attempt to direct the coming election results .

A group of Chechens and Dagestanis with explosives detained in southern Ukraine

Eight people, including those from Dagestan and Chechnya, were detained during a search in one of the residential buildings of the village of Chernobaevka in the Kherson region.

According to the department, members of the group aged 28 to 45 years acted under the guise of a patriotic organization of Ukraine.

http://www.kavkazr.com/a/28737674.html?nocache=1
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #5463 on: September 16, 2017, 12:48:07 AM »
Do we both speak English?  Or is Moby drinking again?


IF we both understand English, when did  we 'establish that I was posting - or had posted - in an inebriated state ?  ..more JayH  diversionary tactics ? You remind me of some guy who claims to be an 'expert' on Finland and Russia ..
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  None of the second to the last sentence makes sense to me.  How can someone who's dead think anything?  Of course, English English might be totally different than American English.

My point... which you may also be trying to avoid was that many who have died / been injured - they can talk - btw - don't really trust Moscow or Kyiv anymore...((

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« Reply #5464 on: September 16, 2017, 01:32:37 AM »
When the russophiles start condemning Russia for it's actions in general -- but specifically in Ukraine -- and stop making excuses  then their credibility may increase -- whether sober or drug affected is another issue .

In Kiev, Putin's killers are operating: US private intelligence has learned about the string of high-profile killings in Ukraine

 Iintelligence noted that the Russian special services have a long history of involvement in the killings and persecuted the enemies of power around the world.

At the same time, Stratfor added that in Ukraine, Russians and their Chechen henchmen acted mostly openly. So, in 2016 in the center of Kiev as a result of the car bombing the Belarusian and Ukrainian journalist, critic of the Russian authorities Pavel Sheremet was killed. The next was the Russian journalist Alexander Schetinin, who criticized Russian President Vladimir Putin.

He was found dead in August of 2016 on the balcony of his own house in Kiev with a gunshot wound to the head. In March 2017, former State Duma deputy Denis Voronenkov was killed in the center of Kiev, who testified against the runaway ex-president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. Later, an attempt was made on the well-known critic of the Chechen government Adam Osmayev.

He was attacked by Russian citizen Artur Denisultanov-Kurmakaev, who introduced himself as a French journalist. June 27, 2017 was blown up by the colonel of military intelligence of Ukraine Maxim Shapoval. In intelligence, they stressed that Kiev has become a dangerous place for those who are perceived as the enemy of Putin and his Chechen "vassal" Kadyrov.

 Also in Stratfor reminded of the explosion in the center of Kiev car in which Timur Makhauri was traveling. It is emphasized that this murder has all the signs of a professional, state-funded special operation.

 "The device built into the car of Makhauri was almost certainly done by a professional who calculated the explosive force to eliminate the target without causing too much collateral loss," the report said.


 http://www.amn.com.ua/podiyi/v-kyeve-oruduyut-kyllery-putyna-chastnaya-razvedka-ssha-uznala-o-cherede-gromkyh-ubyjstv-v-ukrayne/
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #5465 on: September 16, 2017, 04:07:06 AM »
When the russophiles start condemning Russia for it's actions in general -- but specifically in Ukraine -- and stop making excuses  then their credibility may increase -- whether sober or drug affected is another issue .


JayH, you REALLY did to deal with your selective reading difficulties..  I am neither a Russophobe or Russophile..    Unlike you - I observe from within Russia and meet folk from Donbas who are friends with other Ukrainians resident or on hols in Sochi. 

It is amusing to be tagged with either adjective...  Once again, you remind me of some strange folk elsewhere who receive monies whilst pushing an agenda..... 

 In Kiev, Putin's killers are operating: US private intelligence has learned about the string of high-profile killings in Ukraine

Iintelligence noted that the Russian special services have a long history of involvement in the killings and persecuted the enemies of power around the world.

At the same time, Stratfor added that in Ukraine, Russians and their Chechen henchmen acted mostly openly. So, in 2016 in the center of Kiev as a result of the car bombing the Belarusian and Ukrainian journalist, critic of the Russian authorities Pavel Sheremet was killed. The next was the Russian journalist Alexander Schetinin, who criticized Russian President Vladimir Putin.

He was found dead in August of 2016 on the balcony of his own house in Kiev with a gunshot wound to the head. In March 2017, former State Duma deputy Denis Voronenkov was killed in the center of Kiev, who testified against the runaway ex-president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. Later, an attempt was made on the well-known critic of the Chechen government Adam Osmayev.

He was attacked by Russian citizen Artur Denisultanov-Kurmakaev, who introduced himself as a French journalist. June 27, 2017 was blown up by the colonel of military intelligence of Ukraine Maxim Shapoval. In intelligence, they stressed that Kiev has become a dangerous place for those who are perceived as the enemy of Putin and his Chechen "vassal" Kadyrov.

 Also in Stratfor reminded of the explosion in the center of Kiev car in which Timur Makhauri was traveling. It is emphasized that this murder has all the signs of a professional, state-funded special operation.

 "The device built into the car of Makhauri was almost certainly done by a professional who calculated the explosive force to eliminate the target without causing too much collateral loss," the report said.


 http://www.amn.com.ua/podiyi/v-kyeve-oruduyut-kyllery-putyna-chastnaya-razvedka-ssha-uznala-o-cherede-gromkyh-ubyjstv-v-ukrayne/

JayH,  journos were losing their heads in Kuchma's presidency 25 years ago ...   It is a sad fact that in UA / RU folks can be bumped off for cash paid by sources that are hard to prove.

Politicians / jornos that ted to side with Moscow have also met with death / been maimed


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« Reply #5466 on: September 18, 2017, 12:45:36 AM »
It is always interesting to read insiders perspective and real information . Not much nice being said about Putin's Russia

HIDDEN within the Soviet system were able, conscientious officials who were appalled by the crimes and lies they were asked to defend. One of them was Andrei Kovalev, a diplomat who under Mikhail Gorbachev helped dismantle some of the worst abuses of what he freely accepts was an evil empire. Now living in western Europe, Mr Kovalev is a piercing critic of Vladimir Putin’s misrule of Russia

How Russia went wrong, as told from the inside

The central argument of the book is that Russia has returned to the dangerous stagnation of the 1980s, largely thanks to the resurgence of the old KGB. The authoritarian squeeze will worsen at home, Mr Kovalev predicts, while foreign policy will become increasingly hostile and unpredictable. In the long run he fears a break-up of Russia, before—possibly—the dawn of democracy, the rule of law and modernisation.

His language is strikingly blunt. Mr Putin is a “mumbling, stammering knock-kneed brow-furrowing ex-KGB agent who speaks the language of the gutter and values power above everything”. Echoing Alexander Herzen, a 19th-century émigré who declared Russia to be suffering from “patriotic syphilis”, Mr Kovalev diagnoses in his country “manic-depressive psychosis…acute megalomania, persecution complex and kleptomania”. Foreigners who write like this are accused of Russophobia. But it is hard to bring that charge against the erudite Mr Kovalev, with his long and distinguished public service.

http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21728877-andrei-kovalev-says-things-no-outsider-could-about-russias-megalomania-persecution?fsrc=scn%2Ffb%2Fte%2Fbl%2Fed%2Fhowrussiawentwrongastoldfromtheinside
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #5467 on: September 18, 2017, 05:38:50 AM »
HIDDEN within the Soviet system were able, conscientious officials who were appalled by the crimes and lies they were asked to defend. One of them was Andrei Kovalev, a diplomat who under Mikhail Gorbachev helped dismantle some of the worst abuses of what he freely accepts was an evil empire. Now living in western Europe, Mr Kovalev is a piercing critic of Vladimir Putin’s misrule of Russia


The first sentence displays a Western understanding of the USSR.  Only a Westerner, or a Soviet who is trying to remake him/herself, would make such a statement.  Believe me, there were no strangers or "dissidents" among the nomenklatura.  Even most of the dissidents, who came from the academic/artistic classes, didn't object to Bolshevism, just in how it was being implemented.
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After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #5468 on: September 19, 2017, 05:36:03 AM »


U.S. Senate green-lights $500 mln in disbursement, lethal weapons for Ukraine




:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/449535.html









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« Reply #5469 on: September 20, 2017, 10:43:31 AM »
They have been getting trounced by many at the UN so rather than take more flack, "
Russian delegation walks out when Lithuania’s president addresses UN General Assembly"

http://lithuaniannews.net/russian-delegation-walks-out-when-lithuanias-president-addresses-un-general-assembly/
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« Reply #5470 on: September 20, 2017, 11:02:29 AM »
Isn't it annoying when some folks post like they think we all need glasses ?

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« Reply #5471 on: September 20, 2017, 11:23:24 AM »

U.S. Senate green-lights $500 mln in disbursement, lethal weapons for Ukraine




:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/449535.html










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« Reply #5472 on: September 20, 2017, 12:59:44 PM »
Suck it up cupcake.
 That's what came out with a simple copy/ paste. Only on this forum is there a problem with that.

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« Reply #5473 on: September 20, 2017, 02:04:01 PM »
Mikey,

I suspect you've got something ticked you shouldn't have .. I think I pointed you in the right direction, before... IF it wasn't you - sorry

IF Sandro picks this up - he'll remember


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« Reply #5474 on: September 20, 2017, 06:23:47 PM »
That's what came out with a simple copy/ paste. Only on this forum is there a problem with that.
AkMike, your copy/paste included at the beginning this size statement:
Code: [Select]
[size=35px]that caused a VERY large font size to be used for your following text. Here at RWD size statements are expressed in points, not in pixels (px), so you must have picked it up somewhere else.

Piece of advice: before posting, use the "Preview" feature, it'll show what your post will look like ;).
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