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Author Topic: Plane Crash AN-148 crashes 2 mins out of Domodedova ( Moscow) on internal flight  (Read 795 times)

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Mid air explosion. Next time be more careful shooting down Israeli F16's. Or don't invade the country that manufactures the spare parts for your air fleet.

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Mid air explosion. Next time be more careful shooting down Israeli F16's. Or don't invade the country that manufactures the spare parts for your air fleet.

Yes, many eye witnesses reported it exploded mid air ...  The 'last' disaster - a plane loaded with a RU military band -
 en route to New Year's entertainment for the troops crashed into the Black Sea at Sochi and it was Pilot error ..
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The 'last' disaster - a plane loaded with a RU military band -
 en route to New Year's entertainment for the troops crashed into the Black Sea at Sochi and it was Pilot error ..


You might be thinking of the crash in Rostov-on-Don. The military band crash into the Black Sea was mechanical failure. The wing flaps.

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You might be thinking of the crash in Rostov-on-Don.

I arrived in Sochi just after the crash- I certainly am not confusing them as the FlyDubai crash had videoes shows the airliner crashing intact 

The military band crash into the Black Sea was mechanical failure. The wing flaps.



Yeah 'ri-ight'....It was experienced military grade pilot with HUNDREDS of hours on the plane's fault for 'incorrectly operating the flaps' ..

Sochi residents couldn't go on the  the sea for a 30KM length of coast ... 

I'm afraid I don't buy that.. nor do many Sochi residents - given the passengers, the pilot's qualie's and destination

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Yeah 'ri-ight'....It was experienced military grade pilot with HUNDREDS of hours on the plane's fault for 'incorrectly operating the flaps' ..


The 'last' disaster - a plane loaded with a RU military band -
 en route to New Year's entertainment for the troops crashed into the Black Sea at Sochi and it was Pilot error ..


So it was or was not pilot error?

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I don't believe Israel downed the Russian plane.
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So it was or was not pilot error?

'interestingly' RT has ( not for the first time ) altered the article that referred to the Sochi air crash - where 'pilot error' was blamed

Personally, I have always thought it might have been a terrorist act - given the nature of the flight and significance
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Interesting...
When I first clicked on the RT link, I watched a TV interview with some radar data, altitude data, etc.  Now the video has been replaced with a file photo.

Did they place the video somewhere else and I am missing it?

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Personally, I have always thought it might have been a terrorist act - given the nature of the flight and significance

I thought the same thing initially. But one of the pilots was heard talking about the issue on the recorder.


Edit - looks like there are several versions of the story on that incident. Who knows...

I don't believe Israel downed the Russian plane.

Most likely not. Same plane was grounded for several years without spare parts from Ukraine. Maybe they bought cheap knockoffs or tried to have inhouse mechanics fix it...but a plane does not normally just explode from failed parts.

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Wonder if anyone else recognizes passenger 32 on the list of fatalities? Seems a common name in Russia, will need to wait and see if it is the same person the tin foil hatters say it is...

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Wonder if anyone else recognizes passenger 32 on the list of fatalities? Seems a common name in Russia, will need to wait and see if it is the same person the tin foil hatters say it is...

Tell us more ?

It seems one lucky Sochi resident didn't board:

http://sputniknews.com/russia/201802111061562929-russian-birthday-boys-escapes-plane-crash/
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It was not the same guy. Common name in Russia.
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Hear we go again: ' pilot error'?

http://themoscowtimes.com/news/pilot-error-likely-cause-of-deadly-plane-crash-near-moscow-60494

I'm not an aviation expert - but let's say this version is correct - why are eye-witnesses saying the plane was on fire /  breaking up / heard an explosion ( mid air)  - BEFORE it hit the ground?

Note in the article below - the authorities report the plane was intact before impact

http://themoscowtimes.com/articles/the-sorry-state-of-russian-aviation-safety-60475

Either way, Russia has got an extraordinary 'safety' history ((




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In a matter of days, Russian investigators solved why the plane crashed? I don't think there's ever been an investigation of a large passenger plane crash that last only a few days. Well, that should put the conspiracy theories to rest!

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Yup.  Plane over Ukraine that didn't get hit by a BUK missile was pilot error as well. 
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Yup.  Plane over Ukraine that didn't get hit by a BUK missile was pilot error as well.

1/ Day 4 it was two UA -SU25's

2/ It was cannon fire - not a 'missile'

3/ One of our BUK systems wasn't missing

4/ It wasn't a BUK  system Russian missile - it was an Israeli one..

That kind of 'investigation / finding' ? .....

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This was an ex-Rossiya Airlines aircraft and there is a good chance it was one of the type that I flew on for my trips here.

 

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