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RWD News From the Front => Ukrainian Front Discussion => Topic started by: JayH on March 07, 2014, 02:05:03 AM

Title: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 07, 2014, 02:05:03 AM
This may be of interest to some!! It would help if your support is added.I have reproduced here as request arrived. Any one who can add more?

"URGENT ALL!  In the U.S. government trying to promote a new petition. Its essence is in order to give the citizens of Ukraine without visa entry into the United States for up to 90 days. The petition was published on February 26. Her term expires on March 28, before this time you need to collect 100,000 signatures. All not indifferent, as well as those who support the need to sign a petition. Friends who have doubts about the veracity of this site. This is the official page of the white house, so please take 2 minutes. And register and sign this petition!!! http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-ukrai ..      "

http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-ukrainian-citizens-90-day-entrance-usa-passport-without-visa/m0BDgkb5
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: tfcrew on March 07, 2014, 12:51:32 PM
only needs about 6000 more
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Gylden on March 07, 2014, 12:54:16 PM
Looks like it needs about 94,000 more?
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: LAman on March 07, 2014, 01:18:45 PM
Wow... the lengths that a guy will go through to get a girl in for a visit !!! ;)
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 10, 2014, 12:06:21 AM
A bump for an idea that could be of huge assistance to guys(  & girls) and particularly in the current climate. Please help!! :welcome: ;D
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 22, 2014, 01:52:59 AM
A bump for an idea that could be of huge assistance to guys(  & girls) and particularly in the current climate. Please help!! :welcome: ;D

 :welcome:

SIGNATURES NEEDED BY MARCH 28, 2014 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000       23,589TOTAL SIGNATURES
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 23, 2014, 06:55:43 PM
This may be of interest to some!! It would help if your support is added.I have reproduced here as request arrived. Any one who can add more?

"URGENT ALL!  In the U.S. government trying to promote a new petition. Its essence is in order to give the citizens of Ukraine without visa entry into the United States for up to 90 days. The petition was published on February 26. Her term expires on March 28, before this time you need to collect 100,000 signatures. All not indifferent, as well as those who support the need to sign a petition. Friends who have doubts about the veracity of this site. This is the official page of the white house, so please take 2 minutes. And register and sign this petition!!! http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-ukrai ..      "

http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-ukrainian-citizens-90-day-entrance-usa-passport-without-visa/m0BDgkb5

A bump for an idea that could be of huge assistance to guys(  & girls) and particularly in the current climate. Please help!! :welcome: ;D
TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION   88,996    -- as of just now--only 11000 still needed and not long to go.
Come on--lets help!! 
SIGNATURES NEEDED BY MARCH 28, 2014 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: IAmZon on March 23, 2014, 08:49:09 PM
I would expect that - assuming Russia does not invade Ukraine in the next several weeks - that some type of much more loose travel arrangement will be made with Ukraine and the USA ......................

Interesting to keep an eye out
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 24, 2014, 03:42:52 AM
TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION   88,996    -- as of just now--only 11000 still needed and not long to go.
Come on--lets help!! 
SIGNATURES NEEDED BY MARCH 28, 2014 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000

About 8000 still needed--please help. ;D :clapping:
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: lonedrake on March 24, 2014, 05:56:05 AM
Jay,

 This is bad policy. I do not support the petition. This would only increase illegal immigration. There are many other ways to show support for Ukraine.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: GQBlues on March 24, 2014, 10:03:16 AM
About 8000 still needed--please help. ;D :clapping:


Why don't you spend your time pimping your own country instead?
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Lily on March 24, 2014, 10:45:23 AM
Great initiative! As of today -  Signatures needed by March 28, 2014 to reach goal of 100,000  - 4,125  Total signatures on this petition  -95,875
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: jone on March 24, 2014, 12:49:17 PM
Great initiative! As of today -  Signatures needed by March 28, 2014 to reach goal of 100,000  - 4,125  Total signatures on this petition  -95,875

Mine will not be among them.  It is bad policy for the US.  The Ukrainians that I know are all flocking back to their country in the hour of need.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Gator on March 24, 2014, 03:06:25 PM
Not only a bad policy for the US with regard to illegal immigration, but a bad policy for Ukraine.  Ukraine needs its citizens to take a stand, not flee like rats from a sinking ship.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Dewed on March 24, 2014, 03:51:16 PM
I'm on the edge of going either way.. Not every Ukraine citizen is capable of making a stand, and may need a temporary exit strategy for their safety, but does that egress need to lead to the US, across the Atlantic ocean to be processed by an already overburdened immigration process?
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 24, 2014, 04:05:49 PM
The point some of you seem to be missing is that visa's for Ukrainians have been extremely hard to get. On the small sample on this forum we have read of many occassions where applications have been denied -for no obvious reason.Not only for relationship type issues but also for family and friends to be able to visit-- in many cases this has proven impossible to get a visa.
Stop thinking  of those that will not comply-- but of the 97% that will abide by the rules.It has nothing to do with deserting Ukraine-it is not a green card application--it is a visa to visit.

Only 1600 more required now--it has a good chance of getting to the next stage--please add your support.
 98400 people have supported this so far-- only a few days left to assist.

http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-ukrainian-citizens-90-day-entrance-usa-passport-without-visa/m0BDgkb5
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 24, 2014, 07:21:31 PM
SIGNATURES NEEDED BY MARCH 28, 2014 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000  Now getting close=  11 needed !! :clapping:

My understanding is that a successful petition gets the idea a hearing -- so why not support it? I am sure it will contain checks and balances before being implemented-it still does not guarantee entry to US.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 25, 2014, 12:24:03 AM
100,362   :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 26, 2014, 01:31:06 AM
Up to 102,000 now. It has to be a pretty fair effort--  congratulations to the organisers and good luck at the next stage.

 :popcorn: ;D
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Lily on March 26, 2014, 05:21:56 AM
Very well done! I figure how active the Ukrainians were in getting signatures!
 
Does anyone know whether such kind of vox populi indeed gets some consideration on the part of the U.S. government? My thinking is that anyone can create such voting on a question that is important to the creator, and the online voting just shows how many people think the same. It does not mean that the government will consider the petition, does it?
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Faux Pas on March 26, 2014, 09:13:24 AM
Very well done! I figure how active the Ukrainians were in getting signatures!
 
Does anyone know whether such kind of vox populi indeed gets some consideration on the part of the U.S. government? My thinking is that anyone can create such voting on a question that is important to the creator, and the online voting just shows how many people think the same. It does not mean that the government will consider the petition, does it?

My guess is that it will get zero play and go no where in changing U.S. policy. Also, my guess is that such a measure would require a bill passed by the Congress and the Senate and approved by the President or an Executive Order by the President. That said, online petitions don't carry much weight with law makers. If they are signed in written form and wholly from their constituents then, they may/may not pay attention.

I'm not usually dogmatic on such matters but, there is nothing at play or for lawmakers to gain from such a measure. I'd wager you'll never hear about this again
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: GQBlues on March 26, 2014, 09:33:58 AM
There are stacks of petitions with millions of signatures that will likely never see the light of day. Considering the subject deals with one of our present national problems - illegal immigration - and during election year, the petition is a classic waste of time if not downright stupid.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Muzh on March 26, 2014, 10:45:16 AM
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac150/clmontes/illegal-immigration_zpse8961fcb.jpg)
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: GQBlues on March 26, 2014, 10:58:36 AM
LOL.

Growing up along the west coast, I am hardly in-tuned to many of the east coast slangs, acronyms, etc...so it was but fairly recently that I came to know what the acronym 'WOP' meant. An infamous, sometimes derogatory term (acronym) used when foolishly describing Italian-Americans.

WithOut Papers.

 :(
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Slumba on March 26, 2014, 12:08:24 PM
My understanding is, that if a petition reaches the target number of signers, that the White House will respond with an official answer, explaining their position and why or why not the aims of the petition will or will not be implemented.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Muzh on March 26, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
That's an affirmative.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Faux Pas on March 26, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
That's an affirmative.

I affirmative your affirmative
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Jumper on March 26, 2014, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: FP
If they are signed in written form and wholly from their constituents then, they may/may not pay attention.

 As Pres of a non profit org, I work somewhat often at the state (IL) legislative level (not Fed) and at least at the state level rest assured a written form petition of 100,000  constituents,will be looked seriously into.
 Additionally if you had a group of even 200 people show up at any state level hearing regarding a new house bill, the odds they even have enough chairs is slim (any state) and it would hold a large influence on the state's legislators present and voting.
 
I fully agree that online, it would hold much less attention.


 Just pointing out I have both witnessed ,and been a part of, effecting change at the state legislative level and it takes far less interested parties than most would imagine to be taken quite seriously.
 The reality is a person's vote, and voice ,does count despite seemingly popular perception to the contrary.
 I hope people bear this in mind and act accordingly when issues concerning their lives are voted on at the State or Federal levels.







Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: missAmeno on March 26, 2014, 04:12:58 PM
Quote
Alaska petition to secede to Russia going strong at 18K signers

A petition that seeks to put Alaska back under Russian control has garnered more than 18,000 signatures in just a few days — about a fifth of what’s needed to capture a formal White House look.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/25/alaska-petition-secede-russia-going-strong-18k-sig/#ixzz2x75tD2Je

http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Anotherkiwi on March 26, 2014, 05:01:30 PM
Alaska petition to secede to Russia going strong at 18K signers

A petition that seeks to put Alaska back under Russian control has garnered more than 18,000 signatures in just a few days — about a fifth of what’s needed to capture a formal White House look.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/25/alaska-petition-secede-russia-going-strong-18k-sig/#ixzz2x75tD2Je (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/25/alaska-petition-secede-russia-going-strong-18k-sig/#ixzz2x75tD2Je)

http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN (http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN)

Maybe that's what the world needs - imagine Sarah Palin as a member of the Duma!  :cluebat: :wallbash: >:D
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: die_cast on March 26, 2014, 06:50:37 PM
Maybe that's what the world needs - imagine Sarah Palin as a member of the Duma!  :cluebat: :wallbash: >:D
We already have "the best clown ever" Zhirinovsky.  :D
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: JayH on March 27, 2014, 12:19:48 AM
We already have "the best clown ever" Zhirinovsky.  :D

And he was  me thinking the answer was Putin!! ;D

Putin's messenger-- 2 sick clowns by any measure!!
Poland Rejects Zhirinovsky's as  of 'Sick Mind'
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/poland-rejects-zhirinovskys-proposal-as-product-of-sick-mind/496890.html
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: BC on March 27, 2014, 09:28:20 AM
will not happen anytime soon.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: GQBlues on April 11, 2014, 12:05:10 PM
Does anyone know the status of this petition or was it really just a classic waste of time?

 :(

 


Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Maxx2 on April 11, 2014, 01:58:30 PM
LOL.

Growing up along the west coast, I am hardly in-tuned to many of the east coast slangs, acronyms, etc...so it was but fairly recently that I came to know what the acronym 'WOP' meant. An infamous, sometimes derogatory term (acronym) used when foolishly describing Italian-Americans.

WithOut Papers.

 :(


Sounds like my grandma on my mother's side.
Title: Re: Allow Ukrainian Citizens 90 day entrance into the USA on passport, without Visa.
Post by: Slumba on April 11, 2014, 02:29:45 PM
The petition crossed the threshold of 100K , meaning that the White House says they will respond to this petition.

However, there is no timeframe given for when the response will be made. An earlier petition on violence in Ukraine (which you can find by going to responses and then filtering on Foreign Policy as the subject) was completed on January 27th and has been answered. However the response does not seem to be dated, so, we don't know how long it took for them to respond.

(The petition about 90 entrance without visa, was completed late February.)