The Struggle For Ukraine

[krimster2]

anything?
like RWD servers getting exhausted from overuse?
we mist be up to 1 post per week by now...


hey Iran, guess who 'fixed' the helicopter???
hehe, it was 'my people'
they don't need 300 rockets and drones
when they can replace one small component in the control box instead...

[Trenchcoat]

Seems the man was in for a rather hard landing lol.

I kind of guessed it wasn't due to the weather storm but a convenient cover for it.

[krimster2]

not the first aircraft 'they' brought down through 'clever' means
the mullahs are gonna be REALLY upset over this one, cuz they'll have to mute their response
Mossad is very subtle compared to Iran
they killed terrorists in Dubai by strangling them in their hotel rooms at night
all the mossad agents had fake USA passports they copy from tourists visiting Israel
they are the world's best killers
the phrase 'cloak and dagger' is an historic reference to Jewish assissins from Roman times
experience!!!

[Admin]

not the first aircraft 'they' brought down through 'clever' means
the mullahs are gonna be REALLY upset over this one, cuz they'll have to mute their response
Mossad is very subtle compared to Iran
they killed terrorists in Dubai by strangling them in their hotel rooms at night
all the mossad agents had fake USA passports they copy from tourists visiting Israel
they are the world's best killers
the phrase 'cloak and dagger' is an historic reference to Jewish assissins from Roman times
experience!!!

I was impressed with your correct (and rare) usage of "an historic reference" (vice the too common and incorrect 'a historic reference') only to be disappointed in your misspelling of assassin.

You are correct with your occasional critique of RWD's low traffic levels. Inputs for improvement are welcome - either by PM or in the 'RWD Site Feedback' section ... http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?board=26.0.

[krimster2]

ha!!!
I am in the  spelling resistance
and you fell for my carefully laid spelling NAZI trap!!!!!

ironically, the word assassin is derived from 'hashish'
which is the reason why I can't even spell DAWG at the moment
I am an authentic assassin....

the problem is:
you put too many constraints on content which causes an inhibitory effect
combined with the mission of this board losing relevance as time goes on

it means a 'new mission'...

one idea, and you wouldn't even have to change URL domain of this board...

R  Russian
W War
D  Discussion

Putin on the Fritz!!

beyond the content, there are other issues:

the problem with this 'older' style of web presentation methodology
is that they've been eclipsed by 'social media' like facebook, twitter, etc
most people will go there

maybe RWD should change to being on Twitter (yes, I know it's "X", and elon musk sucks)

[Trenchcoat]

the problem is:
you put too many constraints on content which causes an inhibitory effect
combined with the mission of this board losing relevance as time goes on

it means a 'new mission'...

one idea, and you wouldn't even have to change URL domain of this board...

R  Russian
W War
D  Discussion

Putin on the Fritz!!

beyond the content, there are other issues:

the problem with this 'older' style of web presentation methodology
is that they've been eclipsed by 'social media' like facebook, twitter, etc
most people will go there

maybe RWD should change to being on Twitter (yes, I know it's "X", and elon musk sucks)

I have been thinking the same recently. I think a good way to go about it is keep this Website BUT launch a RWD on Twitter as well! That way there can be a link to this website forum for more in-depth talk on the subject.

The problem Twitter has is that it isn't as well developed as this website for sections, topics, threads, etc. so you're not going to be able to get as much depth there without it becoming a jumble and people not knowing what's where.

What Twitter does have going for it is 'traffic' many people frequent twitter, likely many more than Google these days. So it's a great place to pick up people who are interested in Russia/Ukraine at the moment who don't know this site even exists! The Russia/Ukraine situation is a big topic on Twitter at the moment and RWD is missing out.

It could really help with a rebirth of RWD without doing much at all. A RWD twitter group with familiar logo and top picture would be easy to set up within moments. Plus the best thing is that it's free! What could be better it being both quick to do and free. Then just link to here at the top of the page details in Twitter and voilà the peeps will probably come here to check this place out too

[Trenchcoat]

Worth mentioning also if not already aware it's possible to have your own personal twitter page and have an additional page for a subject interest such as this. So Dan could add it to his existing Twitter account (if he has one yet) and flick back and forth between the two as he wishes.

[ML]

I was impressed with your correct (and rare) usage of "an historic reference" (vice the too common and incorrect 'a historic reference') . . .

You are both wrong  !!

You should use “an” before a word beginning with an “h” only if the “h” is not pronounced: “an honest effort”  but  “a historic event."

This is the standard rule that calls for "an" before vowel sounding beginnings and "a" before consonant sounding beginnings.

[ML]

Twitter is only for imbeciles.

I have no Twitter account (and never will) but I followed links to there a couple of times.

Short incomplete sentences and ideas that seem like writings of someone less than 10 years old.

[Trenchcoat]

Twitter is only for imbeciles.

I have no Twitter account (and never will) but I followed links to there a couple of times.

Short incomplete sentences and ideas that seem like writings of someone less than 10 years old.

Twitter does have the downside of being limited to a number of characters per reply so posters like me can't write long rambling replies like I like too

It's another reason why to keep the Forum here to run alongside. I don't think it's good as a replacement forum because you don't get nearly the same. It's is as you point out stunted and because you're so heavily limited on wordage on it, too much I think and that is too it's detriment. I think it's worth a shot in terms of seeing if the traffic to this site can be improved. Whether it turns out to be the traffic wanted may be another matter but it's free and easy to find out.

[Trenchcoat]

This is an article I was saw just the other day that I think is relevant to our discussion here:

http://unherd.com/newsroom/google-declares-the-end-of-the-world-wide-web/

Shocking and surprising I know but most likely true. I still find Google and the World Wide Web (i.e webpages) most useful, but thd younger generation do seem to go more off social media apps and just search for stuff there. Facebook for example has most company pages as again they are free and easy to create I believe. That shaves many hours off producing a professional looking webpage for it's users and is free to do and maintain.

The girl I am dating is like that as from the younger generation. I don't get the impression that she uses Google much if anything at all. Mark Zuckerberg has taken over the internet lol. It's a great shame as there can be a lot more info on the World Wide Web that she misses. I prefer webpages to social media apps but I do use twitter to keep up to date with stuff as it helps to touch base with what's going on out there particularly with like minded people.

Is there a 'dumbing down' of the internet on social media, I think so but it's part of people wanting answers quicker and quicker as the modern age speeds up ever faster and if course that is to the detriment of depth of knowledge as a result, you don't get nought for nought. Nonetheless, it has it's place and is useful in some ways and helps to explain why traffic has been falling off here, not just here but webpages in general it seems.

[Trenchcoat]

I think some good points were also raised here in the thread I created not so long ago about the forum issues with lack of involvement:

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=25800.0

I think it was Davo in that thread if I remember rightly that made a good point in that a lot of guys these days don't want to advertise much on their relationship online in an open forum that in theory can be viewed by anyone. It could be quite obvious to those that know that person to link them if they gave much in the way off details at all on their relationships. So it can make it kind of awkward gif the guys here to discuss relationships on what is a relationships forum.

In the not so distant past the World Wide Web wasn't in reality quite World Wide for most in practice but only in theory. Most of the World Wide Web was segregated by language barriers into the country areas where that language existed and anyone else with a very good grasp of that language. The knowledge of websites in that language and it's website address etc was needed. Then came along Google with automatic translate of websites and so the barriers dropped and many, many more people from other cultures, Slavic, etc could get to and read western websites far more easily. That of course isn't so reassuring a prospect for most male forum users here. I would venture that guys willing to post much about their relationships and activities declined rapidly after that.

Fortunately as Krim points out popularity in the World Wide Web has dropped off since then especially among the younger generation and even older generations in favour of Social Media Apps. That kind of makes this Forum site an almost clandestine presence with few knowing of its existence. However the ease of access for any looking doesn't exactly imbue confidence in being able to partake in relationship discussion here like people used too.

Potentially stuff may change a little in a year or so time if the Russian War comes to an end one way or another, interest in relationships might pick up again out in the FSU.

I think there is another possibility other than Russians using Novichok or WMD to end the war. I think there may be the possibility of the war continuing for a long period of time but in a far less active stalemate kind of situation. A lot like how the situation was between 2014 to 2022, a war ongoing, both sides entrenched but neither being able to break through or having the resources to do so. If you think about it Russia is going to run low on Armaments & Money from 2025 onwards. The West is going to run low on Money with which to support the Ukrainian war effort about the same sort of time most likely.

So instead of both sides, Russia & Ukraine being able to throw vast amounts of Armaments and Money in ferious warfare both will slow down to a soberingly slow not much happening in comparison sort of situation and just be stuck that way likely for years and years. Peace may only come when Putler passes in with old age or gets retired off. A new regime/clan in Russia could likely find it more beneficial in ending the war in Ukraine to preserve their place in power. And then everything moves on as it does.

[krimster2]

Putin has to balance RISKS v REWARDS
it's always a quantitative question in a negative sum game

if he lowers the intensity of the war to reduce losses, he gets a lower gain in return...
however, some of his risks are "fixed costs" like sanctions
and won't go away, if he stops fighting
so he'd have to accept these losses without any means to achieve positive gains

playin this way is NOT a winning strategy
I know it's hard to tell, but Putin REALLY IS actually TRYING to win

the prophetic writing of George Orwell, tells ya pretty much EVERYTHING you need to know about Putin's Russia...
Prigozhin echoed the observation Orwell made, about war being a tool to preserve the rigid top-down social hierarchy in a totalitarian society
so infinite war is a NECESSITY to maintain his rule
but it has to be a WINNING War

otherwise the costs of a losing war will  jeopardize the social hierarchy, which is the thing that Russia's dick taters always feared would be their downfall
a revolt of the masses due to the costs of the war, like in 1917

my view is that either next summer, or the one after that
the DPR will create a Reichstag fire, with some toxic 'industrial chemicals"that kills a lot of people and blame it on Ukraine
their equivalent of bombing apartments in Ryazan

then DPR rebels will "retaliate" against Ukrainian forces with locally made rebel Novichok
Russia just watches at this point
if the WEST retaliates against the DPR for using Novichok on their own territory against Ukraine, then the DPR attacks a large Ukrainian city with Novichok in retaliation
after that, once it's clear, that there isn't gonna be any REAL MILITARY response to the DPR, out of fear of their retaliation on Ukrainian civilians

then and only then does the Russian MOD step in and 'kick it up a notch" and deploy a few hundred tons of Novichok-A236 in a Blitzkrieg type of attack...

people in the WEST, DO NOT EVEN KNOW how to fight a war anymore, let alone how to win one...
it's like the whole freakin culture is some kinda "humane society" and war is not healthy for children and other living things
this kinda pacifist non-sense is just gonna get ya'll killed one day

yur enemies have NO FEAR of pacifists, they consider them cowards
your own people will be against any kind of military action against Russia
thus, your enemies will use yur own democratic ideals against you, the way they are against Israel

and it's one of the many reasons yur ALL gonna lose against a small little bully like Putin, who is struggling bullying someone even weaker
cuz yur leaders are afraid of the collapse of yur own social hierarchy, so your gonna avoid taking actions that bring risks to it
YES! Mr Chamberlain, there will be PEACE in our time!!!

now ya'll probably think that what I'm writing here is really "far-fetched"
no it ain't

not when ya consider, Putin got the Crimean Mafiya to take over the Crimean Parliment
and vote to secceed from Ukraine, and it worked

not to mention Putin was the one who tipped the scales in 2016 in Trump's favor
and it worked

I could go on and on, but I'm sure ya'll get my point

the things that Putin's "good at" vrs the things he ain't
I think he already realizes all this
and is gonna work on gettin his groove back

Putin's iron curtain, reduces the effects of sanctions, by turning Russia into a "closed system" with a reduced dependency on foreign trade
as well as Russia replacing consumerism with militarism, reduces consumer demand for western goods as well

when the debt bombs blow up in the USA in the next decade....
Russia will be unaffected, except for inflation caused by switching all finance to rubles


Putin would be in line to win the BIG game
if he did just one thing, that Russians PREVIOUSLY did once before
can you guess what it is?


Ptuin has time to carefully conceal his Novichok operation from the west
the intelligence community knew when he was going to invade
Novichok needs to be a COMPLETE SURPRIZE!!! and over and done with in a week or so ending with Putin's Triumphant entry into Kyiv which of course is gonna be spelled Kiev!!!

this will be a MUCH more dangerous Putin
then if he took Ukraine in 3 days with no resistance

the West created this Putin, the same way the West created Osama Bin Ladin in the Afghan war
and it'll have the same results

[Trenchcoat]

Yeah but old Putler hasn't got much time left, he's an old man now. Who can say how many days, months or years he has left on this planet before old age or health ailments finish him off. Even aside from that as he ages he's less likely to be up to being in charge right at the top, at some point he'll probably have to step aside or be forced too. Especially if others around him see him as weak and fancy stepping into his shoes.

My thoughts are that Putler knows he's only got so long one way or another and the war in part is just to satisfy his fellow Oligarchs I the mean time so they don't come at him. My guess is he would rather buy himself the few extra years than have them come at him and finish him off earlier. For Putler with not so many years left in the clock whatever happens in the war ain't going to matter to him one way or another as he's not going to be around in the long term either way.

[krimster2]

Putin's already wasted over 2 yrs
if Putin can make Trump President again in November, then he has a much shorter path to victory, and doesn't need Novichok
so he plots and waits....
if Biden wins,
then he has to at least wait until next summer (Novichok needs warm weather)

so the timeline isn't long term, it's 1-2 more years for this to happen

should Putin meet Stalin's fate, then the FSB will decide who the next president will be...
it may be someone worst than Putin
Putin's only skill is spycraft
he does poorly at everything else
and he's the biggest kleptocrat

when Putin is replaced, it'll be by a non kleptocrat
which will change EVERYTHING

the old Kleptocrats are all holdovers from Yeltsin
they are gonna be an endangered species
watch the movie "Death of Stalin"
when Putin dies, the kleptocrats get purged

when the west applied "anti-biotics" to Putin, they didn't use enuff
what it did was to turn Putin into a more resistant pathogen
who is more dangerous now then he was before the war and harder to stop

Putin has his own anti-biotics to keep the Ruusian population's obedience
that the west doesn't have

so the war of attrition will always favor Dr Putin vrs an unhealthy WEST that will implode 10 yr from now