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Title: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 05, 2021, 11:00:32 PM



Does he have a chance in winning two more elections? Lol


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-signs-law-allowing-him-to-run-for-two-more-terms-as-russian-president/ar-BB1fkGcS?ocid=msedgntp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-signs-law-allowing-him-to-run-for-two-more-terms-as-russian-president/ar-BB1fkGcS?ocid=msedgntp)


Biden and the Democrats aren't far behind Putin when it comes to securing power for life. They cheat in elections and use the media to put out propaganda. In the link below you'll see they are trying to make Washington DC the 51st state. This will give them two more Senators increasing their power in government. They will write laws to secure their hold on power and pack the courts with judges who'd side with their policies. Who are we to criticize guys like Putin anymore?

http://oversight.house.gov/legislation/hearings/hr-51-making-dc-the-51st-state-0 (http://oversight.house.gov/legislation/hearings/hr-51-making-dc-the-51st-state-0)
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Sailor291 on April 06, 2021, 10:59:46 AM
I am very afraid for the future if my country!!
Title: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: 2tallbill on April 06, 2021, 01:28:23 PM
I am very afraid for the future if my country!!

They have a Czar/Tsar in Russia. If Putin leaves office he gets killed or gets
thrown in jail. His enemies are too powerful and too corrupt to let him live.

Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Shadow on April 06, 2021, 11:26:53 PM
They have a Czar/Tsar in Russia. If Putin leaves office he gets killed or gets
thrown in jail. His enemies are too powerful and too corrupt to let him live.
I though Putin kills all his enemies?  Where do those powerful ones come from?
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Shadow on April 06, 2021, 11:28:11 PM
I am very afraid for the future if my country!!
Considering you show an American flag, I doubt Putin is going to be president there within the next 10 years. However after that he might decide to come over and run.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Sailor291 on April 07, 2021, 08:48:59 AM
Considering you show an American flag, I doubt Putin is going to be president there within the next 10 years. However after that he might decide to come over and run.

I was not implying Russia.  I am afraid for the future if my country under these leftist demigods in charge now and the insane policies they are putting in place.  Destroying everything my country is made of.   Could care less what Putin does in Russia, that’s their problem.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 07, 2021, 09:19:03 AM

I am very afraid for the future if my country!!

You are watching a slow takeover of our country conducted by corrupt people. I never thought I'd live in a time that would happen. Even some Democrats get it. Democrat voting Charles Barkley said on tv that the politicians are the one causing race wars in their attempt to divide and conquer us.

http://twitter.com/runBMC57/status/1378435984707133445

If you're reading the news about the cop Derick Chauvin court case, the media is reporting in a way that makes Chauvin look guilty but I seen the evidence and he will most likely be found not guilty and our politicians will tell cops to stand down and allow the destruction of our cities again this summer because people are going to be upset with the juries ruling. I'm not Nostradamus. Like Charles Barkley, I know they want to divide and conquer us to solidify their power.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Shadow on April 07, 2021, 10:16:36 AM
I was not implying Russia.  I am afraid for the future if my country under these leftist demigods in charge now and the insane policies they are putting in place.  Destroying everything my country is made of.   Could care less what Putin does in Russia, that’s their problem.
All I can say to comfort you is that these leftists would be called right-wing in Europe. And we are still alive.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 07, 2021, 10:25:04 AM
You are watching a slow takeover of our country conducted by corrupt people. I never thought I'd live in a time that would happen. Even some Democrats get it. Democrat voting Charles Barkley said on tv that the politicians are the one causing race wars in their attempt to divide and conquer us.

http://twitter.com/runBMC57/status/1378435984707133445 (http://twitter.com/runBMC57/status/1378435984707133445)


Right On, Bruddah!!! CB's always been awesome, and was never afraid to tell it like it is. He once said publicly many black folks cry victim to hide their laziness. The majority of them are hard working folks. It is unfortunate the lazy few are the ones the media gives coverage to.


America IS awesome without these lobbyists-sucking clowns off DC. Start with that Chicago stooge...

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If you're reading the news about the cop Derick Chauvin court case, the media is reporting in a way that makes Chauvin look guilty but I seen the evidence and he will most likely be found not guilty and our politicians will tell cops to stand down and allow the destruction of our cities again this summer because people are going to be upset with the juries ruling. I'm not Nostradamus. Like Charles Barkley, I know they want to divide and conquer us to solidify their power.


Derick's an idiot. Regardless of whether or not Floyd was high on drugs, what he did was criminal. Jail is where he belongs.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Sailor291 on April 07, 2021, 11:01:44 AM

Right On, Bruddah!!! CB's always been awesome, and was never afraid to tell it like it is. He once said publicly many black folks cry victim to hide their laziness. The majority of them are hard working folks. It is unfortunate the lazy few are the ones the media gives coverage to.


America IS awesome without these lobbyists-sucking clowns off DC. Start with that Chicago stooge...


Derick's an idiot. Regardless of whether or not Floyd was high on drugs, what he did was criminal. Jail is where he belongs.

And how many years of law enforcement experience do you have to back that up?  I have 25 years worth!!!
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 07, 2021, 11:41:26 AM
And how many years of law enforcement experience do you have to back that up?  I have 25 years worth!!!


ZIP.

There's no justification having your knees in that position for as long as he did over a drugged, motionless person, with 3 other guys having him on hold on the ground, for nearly 9 minutes when even his own men are telling him he ought to let go.

What does your 25 years of experience is telling you, I'm curious. Don't cop-out out of it. Enlighten us.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 07, 2021, 12:29:19 PM
All I can say to comfort you is that these leftists would be called right-wing in Europe. And we are still alive.


Left leaning leaders running a country isn't necessarily a problem as long as they are sincerely trying to better the country. Having corrupt politicians in power rigging elections is a problem no matter what side of the fence they are on. They do not want to better the country, they just want to enrich themselves and secure more power. We have both Democrats and Republicans that refuse to address the election fraud and they all need to go. In Arizona they are going to do a complete audit and knock door to door asking people who they voted for and the Democrats there are suing to have that stopped.




As far as Chauvin goes, no matter how ugly it looked, Minneapolis police department has a policy that allows police to hold down people with a knee on the neck as long as its not on the windpipe. Chauvin probably did it to 100s of people with nobody dying. Floyd did not die under Chauvin's knee anyway. Dispatcher's tape calls for fire backup to the ambulance that picked up Floyd. Floyd went into cardiac arrest 5 minutes after the cops turned him over to medical personnel.


A friend of mine is a nurse who said people on drugs can go into a rage overpowering cops so he understands why there were 4 cops on Floyd, a very big guy. He said if cops underestimate who they are dealing with, they can lose their life. Better safe than sorry. Cops deserve to go home to the families after every shift. He also said when people on drugs crash, they crash hard and it may be hard to detect a heartbeat.


Bottom line is a jury of 12 everyday people will be making a decision and we have to accept that decision. I believe their decision will not align with the media's narrative that the video shows Chauvin clearly killed Floyd. This will lead to massive rioting and our politicians will do nothing to stop it. They want the general population pacified. Politicians won't put up a wall at the border or protect us with military but they will put up a wall at the Capitol and surround themselves with military to keep us out.







Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 07, 2021, 01:23:14 PM
http://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/derek-chauvin-trial-day-7-george-floyd-death/89-abf236ce-0321-43fb-aace-0d3e568e06fb (http://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/derek-chauvin-trial-day-7-george-floyd-death/89-abf236ce-0321-43fb-aace-0d3e568e06fb)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPDdS2KZRVc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5qtxCtP_mo




Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 07, 2021, 03:18:50 PM



GQ, the fake news media is setting people up to be angry. Those videos mean nothing to me. They don't show the witnesses being cross examined by the defense attorney. Just as easy is it for the prosecution to find cops that say they wouldn't do what Chauvin did, the defense will present cops that say they would do what Chauvin did but you're not going to see that testimony on fake news. They need riots and riots will happen.


Chauvin was allowed to put his knee on the side of Floyd's neck according to police policy. I read the policy that is now removed off the Minneapolis Police department site. They neutered cops around the country so murders and violent crimes skyrocketed over the Floyd incident. Knee jerk reactions rarely solve anything and in this case, caused more harm to people.


Here's a video of the dispatchers recording. Start at 8:10 to hear it. Floyd was alive in the ambulance and then had a heart attack. That means Floyd wasn't dead under Chauvin's knee. Fake news isn't going to tell you that but I suspect the dispatchers tape will be played in court. Also Fake news isn't going to tell you Floyd had a cocktail of drugs in his body, so much it could kill a horse.




How George Floyd Was Killed in Police Custody | Visual Investigations - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vksEJR9EPQ8)
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: 2tallbill on April 07, 2021, 03:22:20 PM
I thought Putin kills all his enemies?  Where do those powerful ones come from?

Him and his regime is constantly stealing and pulling the noose tighter and
tighter around Russian freedom. He keeps harassing countries and people
around him. He will never run out of powerful enemies. He will always
push for more power and more money. He will kill more journalists
he will jail more adversaries. He can't stop

Title: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: 2tallbill on April 07, 2021, 03:24:23 PM
If you're reading the news about the cop Derick Chauvin court case

Off topic  :offtopic:
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 07, 2021, 04:27:54 PM


GQ, the fake news media is setting people up to be angry....


Since this is your thread, I'll just address that little snippet. BillyB, it doesn't matter. The cops that were called to witness pretty much said you already had a non-resisting subject. He was cuffed, in a prone position and is no longer a danger to any of the officers or anyone else. FWIW, Derek could've held his head with his hand with very little pressure, since there were two other officers holding his body down, George would've been helpless to move.

An officer checked his pulse and said he doesn't have any. He told Derek maybe to let him go. He didn't, the full 9 minutes.


Whether it's first degree, 2nd or 3rd...George is dead. Derek is principally, or contributory, the caused of it.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 07, 2021, 10:02:17 PM

Whether it's first degree, 2nd or 3rd...George is dead. Derek is principally, or contributory, the caused of it.



Floyd's passenger in the car took the 5th. He's Floyd's drug dealer and Floyd had enough drugs in him to kill a horse or 3 humans. Normally it's the drug dealer that gets charged with murder if they overdose a customer.


Autopsy performed said Floyd didn't have any injuries to his body or neck and didn't die of asphyxiation.


Another problem for those that want to see the cop in jail is the prosecutor wanted to please the public and because of that, the cop is more likely to be found not guilty. Charges need 'intent'. For example, let's say you get in a fight with a guy jacked up on drugs. You hit him and made him bleed. Fights over but 5 minutes later he goes into cardiac arrest. Prosecutor charges you with 1st and 2nd degree murder. Jury is given definition of what that is and it includes the word 'intent'. Defense attorney reminds jury you didn't intend to murder the guy. You got in a fight out of anger. Jury rules not guilty but could've ruled guilty if prosecutor went for lesser charge and felt you are partially responsible for death. Cops have more protections against lawsuits than citizens like us. Also I don't believe the cop intended to kill Floyd, especially with the cameras on him. He was allowed to use discretion when putting his knee on Floyd. If a cop makes a mistake, the police department and city can be sued but cops are usually immune from being punished more than being fired.


Just be ready guys for a shit show. It'll be worse than last years and our politicians will tell cops to stand down and allow it to happen. BLM and Antifa are todays Hilter Brown shirts and Mussolini's Black shirts that terrorized and pacified civilians in cities.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: fathertime on April 07, 2021, 10:09:33 PM
Whether it's first degree, 2nd or 3rd...George is dead. Derek is principally, or contributory, the caused of it.
If the officer gets off, there should be massive protests.   He killed the man, and looking at the totality of circumstances it was with intent.  We shall see if the jury agrees. 

Fathertime! 
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: fathertime on April 08, 2021, 06:30:47 AM
You are watching a slow takeover of our country conducted by corrupt people. I never thought I'd live in a time that would happen. Even some Democrats get it. Democrat voting Charles Barkley said on tv that the politicians are the one causing race wars in their attempt to divide and conquer us.
 
 
It's not just democrats, the US in general tries to foment outrage across the globe when it we think it is in our financial interests to do so.

Fathertime!
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 08, 2021, 08:28:31 AM

Floyd's passenger in the car took the 5th. He's Floyd's drug dealer and Floyd had enough drugs in him to kill a horse or 3 humans. Normally it's the drug dealer that gets charged with murder if they overdose a customer.


Autopsy performed said Floyd didn't have any injuries to his body or neck and didn't die of asphyxiation....


He died of cardiac arrest brought about by hypoxia. You may attribute this to the drugs in the system, but medical experts upon understanding the condition in which George had undergone, pointed to George being handcuffed on the ground with his face and body facing the ground, while 3 men putting their weight on him - Derek having his knees on his neck and shoulder.


Hold your hands on your back in the position of being handcuffed, then lay straight on the corner of the floor and wall, even without 3 men pushing against your back, chest and neck....your breathing will be gravely shortened. Stay in that position for 9 minutes....


Have someone give you a rear naked choke...see how fast your heart beats instantly even after 20 seconds...Your system will shutdown before one minute is over. You'll be out cold shortly after. If the choke continues, you're dead meat.


The question isn't what exactly is the cause of death, it is whether Derek is attributed principally or contributory cause to his death. Either way, he needs to be in jail.


George Floyd did not need to be in that condition for nearly 9 minutes because he was no longer a threat to the officers nor to anyone else. He was motionless and subdued. But they kept him in that position for as long as they did.


http://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/working-stiff/86913 (http://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/working-stiff/86913)

>>...At the start of the video, Floyd has already appeared to have lost bladder function. This can be a sign of medical distress. Floyd specifically mentions "the knee in my neck," a coherent statement and not the grunting and screaming we typically hear in deaths from excited delirium. As this video starts, Officer Chauvin already has his knee pressed on Floyd's neck, and you can see that pressure is being applied to the part of his anatomy that contain the carotid arteries and jugular veins. Floyd first appears to become unresponsive at 4:01. He stops talking, his eyes close, and his face is still. Bystanders start noticing this at 4:45. At 6:58 an officer checks his pulse. Officer Chauvin's knee doesn't come off Floyd's neck until 7:55, over 3 minutes after Floyd first seems to have gone unconscious....<<
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 08, 2021, 08:31:12 AM
If the officer gets off, there should be massive protests.   He killed the man, and looking at the totality of circumstances it was with intent.  We shall see if the jury agrees. 

Fathertime!


The toughest part in these hearings, just as it were in the OJ and Rodney King hearings, it has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Grumpy on April 08, 2021, 08:47:38 AM
Lock em up!
Derick Chauvin and Putin, too.
Throw away the keys.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 08, 2021, 09:35:54 AM
Have someone give you a rear naked choke...see how fast your heart beats instantly even after 20 seconds...Your system will shutdown before one minute is over. You'll be out cold shortly after. If the choke continues, you're dead meat.



I have a laborer who got the crap kicked out of him many times from cops. He's grown up now and admits he started hostilities and 'deserved' it. One time three male cops took him down while a female cop was repeatedly kicked his head. What that female cop done was wrong but we are asking humans to do a job that is stressful and dangerous and emotions can make them do things more than they are supposed to, especially when in a fight. They have to win the fight while rules say they can't go all out like their opponent can. I know a nurse who said they seen guys on drugs strapped down and they get superhuman strength and break free. They can even break out of handcuffs. Cops take precautions and three guys on Floyd may have been routine for a guy his size in that situation. Chauvin may have been in that situation a 100 times in his career pinning down thugs and everybody walked away. This time somebody died, a guy who had a lethal dose of drugs in him.




The toughest part in these hearings, just as it were in the OJ and Rodney King hearings, it has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt.



"Proven beyond a reasonable doubt" is a good standard to apply in court when trying to throw a person in jail for life. There's lots of doubt here on what killed Floyd. Some, if not all jurors are going to rule that Floyd died in the ambulance due to drugs, not under Chauvin's knee. Some jurors may feel Chauvin is partially responsible but due to the definition of 2nd degree murder, he is innocent because he had no 'intent' to kill Floyd. They would consider it an accident due to human error or bad police policy and cops are immune from prosecution if they followed police department policy and simply made an error in judgement such as pinning down Floyd too long.


Chauvin is going to be found not guilty or worst case scenario it's going to be a hung jury because I don't see 12 jurors saying he's guilty. They've already put four layers of fencing around the court topped with razor wire. They know there's going to be riots. Politicians will allow the riots instead of asking people in America to accept the court process and accept the decision of 12 jurors who actually got to see ALL the evidence. All we get is the media narrative of what happened.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Shadow on April 08, 2021, 09:44:24 AM
Him and his regime is constantly stealing and pulling the noose tighter and
tighter around Russian freedom. He keeps harassing countries and people
around him. He will never run out of powerful enemies. He will always
push for more power and more money. He will kill more journalists
he will jail more adversaries. He can't stop
So far the Russians have more than enough freedom, and you are unable to name the enemies you claim he has.As for Putin being personally responsible for everything in Russia, perhaps realise there are quite a few more people living there.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Boethius on April 08, 2021, 10:38:14 AM
So far the Russians have more than enough freedom
I disagree with this.  A lot of Russians are wary of criticizing their government.  I have personally witnessed this, and it's among people young enough to not be influenced by the USSR.  Ukrainians, OTOH, have no problem criticizing their government.  Some of that may be that Russians are better governed, however, the ones I know steer clear of any criticism, because they don't know what the personal consequences will be.  That doesn't sound like "more than enough freedom" to me.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Shadow on April 08, 2021, 12:21:09 PM
I disagree with this.  A lot of Russians are wary of criticizing their government.  I have personally witnessed this, and it's among people young enough to not be influenced by the USSR.  Ukrainians, OTOH, have no problem criticizing their government.  Some of that may be that Russians are better governed, however, the ones I know steer clear of any criticism, because they don't know what the personal consequences will be.  That doesn't sound like "more than enough freedom" to me.
Is criticizing a government your measure of freedom?
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Boethius on April 08, 2021, 12:36:32 PM
The ability to criticize your government openly and without fear, is a measure of freedom, unless you want to get philosophical about it (i.e., as long as you have the ability to think what you wish, you are free, even if you live in a totalitarian state).
Title: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: 2tallbill on April 08, 2021, 03:15:32 PM
and you are unable to name the enemies you claim he has.

Shadow,

Next time ask me to name some of his enemies rather than say that
I can't do it.

Alexei Navalny
Vladimir Ashurkov
Mikhail Khodorkovsky

Sergei Furgal
Maria Alyokhina
Grigory Yavlinsky

Lev Schlossberg
Leonid Razvozzhayev
Andrey Piontkovsky
Gennady Gudkov

I can't name any Putin enemies?!

I don't know the various mafia types he crossed or everyone
that he crossed, but I could name another dozen names.
I can also call people I know and get another dozen after
that.

Is criticizing a government your measure of freedom?


So far the Russians have more than enough freedom

Says who? Freedom to keep their businesses? Freedom from graft? Freedom
to get equal protection under the law? Freedom to keep their inventions?
Freedom to petition the government with their grievances? Freedom to
peaceably assemble? Freedom to have single digit inflation? Freedom
to elect who they want?

Whoops, they don't have ANY of those freedoms that the Dutch, Canadians
and Americans have, but in your mind they have enough?

If you daughter is run down by a rich drunk Dutch official's son will the son
get to get away free? How free are you if you can't keep your children safe?

Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: fathertime on April 08, 2021, 07:29:36 PM


If you daughter is run down by a rich drunk Dutch official's son will the son
get to get away free? How free are you if you can't keep your children safe?
I recall an episode where a US diplomat killed someone overseas in a similar situation, and the US fought tooth and nail to keep her from paying a consequence.

Fathertime! 
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: fathertime on April 08, 2021, 07:48:05 PM

The toughest part in these hearings, just as it were in the OJ and Rodney King hearings, it has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
Despite the high threshold, have confidence he will either be found guilty or the jury will be hung by one/two people.    I think the chance is very very low that he will be found not guilty. 

Fathertime! 
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 08, 2021, 09:39:47 PM
Freedom to keep their businesses? Freedom from graft? Freedom
to get equal protection under the law? Freedom to keep their inventions?
Freedom to petition the government with their grievances? Freedom to
peaceably assemble? Freedom to have single digit inflation? Freedom
to elect who they want?



When it comes to elections, America is like the guy that got scammed and doesn't even know it. Businesses can operate if they jump on the social bandwagon. Conservative news and millions banned off twitter and silenced if they talked about Hunter's laptop or election fraud. twitter competition and conservative free speech platform Parlor was banned off the internet by Amazon. Then no banks would fund them and another conservative platform Gab to get back on the internet. Peacefully assemble? Jan 6th was a setup framing hundreds of thousands of conservatives. America is headed for a decline.


I'm not too worried about Putin because we got our own problems at home but Putin accuses Ukraine of provocations in Ukraine. Sounds like a good reason to invade. Merkel doesn't think this mass mobilization is going to be a training exercise.


Merkel tells Putin to pull back troops as Kremlin accuses Ukraine of provocations (yahoo.com) (http://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-says-could-forced-protect-122250495.html)
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Shadow on April 08, 2021, 11:25:56 PM
Shadow,

Next time ask me to name some of his enemies rather than say that
I can't do it.
I can't name any Putin enemies?!
I asked to name those powerful enemies that you say are a threat, not a list of clowns.
Says who? Freedom to keep their businesses? Freedom from graft? Freedom
to get equal protection under the law? Freedom to keep their inventions?
Freedom to petition the government with their grievances? Freedom to
peaceably assemble? Freedom to have single digit inflation? Freedom
to elect who they want?

Whoops, they don't have ANY of those freedoms that the Dutch, Canadians
and Americans have, but in your mind they have enough?
Dream on , yup Russia is still USSR.
If you daughter is run down by a rich drunk Dutch official's son will the son
get to get away free? How free are you if you can't keep your children safe?
He would get away free because
1. I do not have a daughter2. Our system is just as corrupted as any other.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Shadow on April 08, 2021, 11:30:36 PM
The ability to criticize your government openly and without fear, is a measure of freedom, unless you want to get philosophical about it (i.e., as long as you have the ability to think what you wish, you are free, even if you live in a totalitarian state).
Now I understand why the US has such a bad government. It is all about people feeling free.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 09, 2021, 08:37:21 AM
And how many years of law enforcement experience do you have to back that up?  I have 25 years worth!!!


The last two days of this trial showcased testimonies from 4-5 of highly-qualified medical professionals that came to the same conclusion about George Floyd's cause of death.


I will remind folks that these testimonies came AFTER I posted what I did that prompted the above post. 25 years of law enforcement experience vs. ZERO.


Our society is really in deep social mess when *experienced* stewards of our social functions and welfare are dubious at best. This helps explain part of the reason why we are where we are today.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 09, 2021, 09:24:15 AM
The last two days of this trial showcased testimonies from 4-5 of highly-qualified medical professionals that came to the same conclusion about George Floyd's cause of death.



The original medical professional who does autopsies everyday wrote on his report there were no signs of injuries to the neck of Floyd and he did not die of asphyxiation. The defense can parade all kinds of experts who did not see the body if they want. It's easy to find people on both sides of the aisle when it comes to politics, policing, in the medical field and even when it comes to COVID and vaccination. Even if the defense convinces some jurors their experts are relevant, they won't be able to convince all 12 and if for some reason they do, I don't see Chauvin guilty of 2nd degree murder because he did not intend to kill Floyd. As a matter of fact, he changed his mind about taking Floyd to jail. He called the medics not once, but twice to get their butts over there to take care of Floyd's medical needs.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 09, 2021, 10:07:48 AM
BillyB-


The official cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest brought about by (hypoxia - low oxygen). It was classified as 'homicide' because the mechanism of death was caused by the action of another. There was no need to have an *intent* in a 'homicidal' declaration in any death certificate. The terminal event was Derek's restraining and prolonged kneeling on George's neck and shoulder - 'the action of another'. This was explained on the trial.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide)

Defined: Homicide is when one human being causes the death of another.  Not all homicide is murder (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/murder), as some killings are manslaughter (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/manslaughter), and some are lawful, such as when justified by an affirmative defense (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/affirmative_defense), like insanity (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/insanity_defense) or self-defense.

This is also largely why they changed the original charge of 1st degree to a lesser 2nd degree murder. Simply because proving 'intent' would be nearly impossible unless they have solid evidence, and any historical reasons, to believe Derek had ambition of killing George Floyd prior to this terminal event.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Boethius on April 09, 2021, 10:46:48 AM
Now I understand why the US has such a bad government. It is all about people feeling free.


I'm not American.  The concept of being free to speak one's mind against government was established in Europe before the USA was established. 
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 09, 2021, 12:23:46 PM
BillyB-


The official cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest brought about by (hypoxia - low oxygen). It was classified as 'homicide' because the mechanism of death was caused by the action of another. There was no need to have an *intent* in a 'homicidal' declaration in any death certificate. The terminal event was Derek's restraining and prolonged kneeling on George's neck and shoulder - 'the action of another'. This was explained on the trial.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide)

Defined: Homicide is when one human being causes the death of another.  Not all homicide is murder (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/murder), as some killings are manslaughter (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/manslaughter), and some are lawful, such as when justified by an affirmative defense (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/affirmative_defense), like insanity (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/insanity_defense) or self-defense.

This is also largely why they changed the original charge of 1st degree to a lesser 2nd degree murder. Simply because proving 'intent' would be nearly impossible unless they have solid evidence, and any historical reasons, to believe Derek had ambition of killing George Floyd prior to this terminal event.


There you go, BillyB.


What I posted above over an hour ago is currently being explained on the trial by Hennepin County's medical examiner verbatim.


Considering I have *zero* years of experience in law enforcement, I must have that sixth sense like Spiderman and Batman does.  :P
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: tfcrew on April 09, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
I recall an episode where a US diplomat killed someone overseas in a similar situation, and the US fought tooth and nail to keep her from paying a consequence.
Wasn't the diplomat in question in fact actually her husband?
Now I understand why the US has such a bad government. It is all about people feeling free.
Not a bad government..just crappy people running it [into the ground]
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Shadow on April 10, 2021, 06:43:04 AM

I'm not American.  The concept of being free to speak one's mind against government was established in Europe before the USA was established.
I know you are not. But the principle is the same. If  freedom means criticizing the government than having a bad government contributes to freedom.To me freedom is a very different concept, it is the ability to act freely without interference. And considering the level of interference from government and other service we have here in Europe I do not call it to be free.
Title: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: 2tallbill on April 10, 2021, 05:02:19 PM
I asked to name those powerful enemies that you say are a threat, not a list of clowns.

I believe that you might have intended to ask that but that's not what you
actually said. I don't really know the names of the movers and shakers of
the Russian Mafia or of the Russian Kleptocracy.

Some of those clowns were Russian presidential candidates.

Russia is still USSR.

Russia is corrupt. I know people who have been shaken down while in Russia.

 
Our system is just as corrupted as any other.

No it's not. It's far more corrupt in Africa than Russia. It's far more corrupt in
Russia than in Canada. That doesn't mean that there is no corruption in Canada
but saying that they are the same is wrong.

Udachi!

Bill
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: 2tallbill on April 10, 2021, 05:06:40 PM
Merkel doesn't think this mass mobilization is going to be a training exercise.

Merkin is a joke. She says "Don't mobilize against Ukraine, or else
we will stand around with stern looks on our faces at the next
embassy function."


Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 11, 2021, 09:45:57 AM
BillyB-


The official cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest brought about by (hypoxia - low oxygen). It was classified as 'homicide' because the mechanism of death was caused by the action of another. There was no need to have an *intent* in a 'homicidal' declaration in any death certificate. The terminal event was Derek's restraining and prolonged kneeling on George's neck and shoulder - 'the action of another'. This was explained on the trial.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide)

Defined: Homicide is when one human being causes the death of another.  Not all homicide is murder (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/murder), as some killings are manslaughter (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/manslaughter), and some are lawful, such as when justified by an affirmative defense (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/affirmative_defense), like insanity (http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/insanity_defense) or self-defense.

This is also largely why they changed the original charge of 1st degree to a lesser 2nd degree murder. Simply because proving 'intent' would be nearly impossible unless they have solid evidence, and any historical reasons, to believe Derek had ambition of killing George Floyd prior to this terminal event.


Low oxygen and slow breathing could've been caused by the drugs Floyd took. Many who overdose die slowly, not instantly. The drugs Floyd took does restrict breathing.


2nd degree murder requires 'intent'. Chauvin didn't intend to kill Floyd. He called for medical attention twice and he certainly wouldn't kills someone in front of cameras and an audience.


http://www.hg.org/legal-articles/murder-charges-in-minnesota-43141#:~:text=Second%20degree%20murder%20can%20be,intense%20emotional%20response%20or%20impulse.

Of course the autopsy said homicide. Homicide doesn't mean a crime happened and if it did, the homicide may have been committed by Floyd's drug dealer so that leaves 'doubt' in the juries minds that Chauvin caused the manslaughter partially or not at all. To find someone guilty, they must be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 12, 2021, 08:32:04 AM
Low oxygen and slow breathing could've been caused by the drugs Floyd took. Many who overdose die slowly, not instantly. The drugs Floyd took does restrict breathing.


It may, but medical reports and toxicology analysis revealed the amount of drugs in George's system is not enough to induce hypoxia, much less cardiopulmonary arrest.

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2nd degree murder requires 'intent'. Chauvin didn't intend to kill Floyd. He called for medical attention twice and he certainly wouldn't kills someone in front of cameras and an audience.


No BillyB, you're wrong. This was explained last year. This is what is known as 'reckless murder', falling within the classification of second degree murder, aka unintentional second degree murder, according to Minnesota law. Two ways a person can be charged second degree murder, without intent, are...


a) a person causes the death of a human being, without intent, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other that criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive by shooting...and/or,


b) a person causes the death of another without intent 'while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection''


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http://www.hg.org/legal-articles/murder-charges-in-minnesota-43141#:~:text=Second%20degree%20murder%20can%20be,intense%20emotional%20response%20or%20impulse (http://www.hg.org/legal-articles/murder-charges-in-minnesota-43141#:~:text=Second%20degree%20murder%20can%20be,intense%20emotional%20response%20or%20impulse).

Of course the autopsy said homicide. Homicide doesn't mean a crime happened and if it did, the homicide may have been committed by Floyd's drug dealer so that leaves 'doubt' in the juries minds that Chauvin caused the manslaughter partially or not at all. To find someone guilty, they must be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.


'Homicide', in this particular case, was used under the medical term, not the legal term.


George no longer had a pulse, he was no longer breathing, he was motionless and had already discharged frothy sputum. The other officer, twice, checked his pulse found nothing, asked Derek maybe they should ease the restraint and flip him over, Derek refused and continued his actions.


Despite all of these, not only did he had George in this prone position, they didn't flip him over nor did anyone gave him CPR after seeing him in the conditions cited above. Those are signs when any officer is suppose to give CPR until the medics arrive.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2021, 09:10:20 AM

a) a person causes the death of a human being, without intent, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other that criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive by shooting...and/or,


b) a person causes the death of another without intent 'while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection''



There definitely wasn't an order of protection and Chauvin wasn't committing a felony. Let's say you fire a gun into a crowd of people which is a felony but you didn't intentionally want to kill anybody but you did, then they can charge you with unintentional murder.




George no longer had a pulse, he was no longer breathing, he was motionless and had already discharged frothy sputum. The other officer, twice, checked his pulse found nothing, asked Derek maybe they should ease the restraint and flip him over, Derek refused and continued his actions.



I asked my nurse friend about this and he said the drugs in Floyd system can restrict breathing and the amount he took can kill him. As breathing and heartbeat is weak, it would be hard to detect a pulse. One thing is for certain. Floyd went into cardiac arrest 5 minutes later in an ambulance. He didn't die under Chauvin's knee.


Chuavin was the officer in charge and he is allowed discretion and doesn't need to flip Floyd over just because other officers who have a few days experience on the job asked him if Floyd should be flipped on the side. Officers tend to use more than enough restrain than not enough which protect them and civilians. Let's say they didn't use enough restraint and the drugs in Floyd's system gave him adrenalin and super human power. Floyd gets up and escapes and while doing so, he runs your wife over and she falls and hits her head on the concrete sidewalk. You will be asking the cops why they didn't use enough restraint. They do this for a living so they should have better judgment on how much restraint to use on thugs.


The Minneapolis prosecutor's office is playing to the crowd and not doing what's right. Let's say I sell a lethal amount of drugs to a guy. You get in a fight with him. He's on the ground and you stop the fight. Like Chauvin, you call the ambulance, not once, but twice and after 5 minutes in the ambulance the guy dies and you get charged with second degree murder. Your attorney finds out I'm the guy that sold the drugs and you tell the prosecutor he should be going after me but the mob wants to hang you so I plead the 5th on the stand so I don't incriminate myself. Witnesses go on the stand saying you delivered the deadly blow that was the straw that broke the camels back.


When you get to fight somebody, there are no rules. We require cops to routinely engage thugs and we make up rules of engagement that hinder their ability to overpower thugs which puts additional risks on theirs and bystander's lives. In exchange they have certain immunities if they accidently caused or partially caused the death of someone in their possession. Chauvin didn't commit a felony and he didn't intentionally kill Floyd and I doubt he even killed floyd.


Watch the expert witnesses the defense puts up. They will put doubt in the minds of the jury that Chauvin is responsible for Floyd's death. I've been on juries where it's a slam dunk the guy is guilty. There's too much doubt here Chauvin killed Floyd or even wanted to kill him.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 12, 2021, 09:26:19 AM

There definitely wasn't an order of protection and Chauvin wasn't committing a felony. Let's say you fire a gun into a crowd of people which is a felony but you didn't intentionally want to kill anybody but you did, then they can charge you with unintentional murder.


OK, so now you understand a second degree murder charge DOES NOT require 'intent'.

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I asked my nurse friend about this and he said the drugs in Floyd system can restrict breathing and the amount he took can kill him.


Anecdotal. He/she should've petitioned to testify in the case under oath. Your riposte is based on someone no one else knows, nor qualifications, etc...vs the multiple medical professionals who testified, under oath, in the case and do actually have a proven, certifiable high qualifications. I can't even believe you used that as a response.


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Chuavin was the officer in charge and he is allowed discretion and doesn't need to flip Floyd over just because other officers who have a few days experience on the job asked him if Floyd should be flipped on the side.


Hence he faces the most damning on 3 charges.


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The Minneapolis prosecutor's office is playing to the crowd and not doing what's right. Let's say I sell a lethal amount of drugs to a guy. You get in a fight with him. He's on the ground and you stop the fight. Like Chauvin, you call the ambulance, not once, but twice and after 5 minutes in the ambulance the guy dies and you get charged with second degree murder. Your attorney finds out I'm the guy that sold the drugs and you tell the prosecutor he should be going after me but the mob wants to hang you so I plead the 5th on the stand so I don't incriminate myself. Witnesses go on the stand saying you delivered the deadly blow that was the straw that broke the camels back.


Hypothetical and doesn't apply in this case. George no longer had a pulse way before the ambulance arrived. You have been attempting to employ hypothetical scenario to carry your argument that have no basis on any of the evidence already been exercised and used in this trial.

for example:

~ When you get to fight somebody, there are no rules. We require cops to routinely engage thugs and we make up rules of engagement that hinder their ability to overpower thugs which puts additional risks on theirs and bystander's lives. In exchange they have certain immunities if they accidently caused or partially caused the death of someone in their possession. Chauvin didn't commit a felony and he didn't intentionally kill Floyd and I doubt he even killed floyd.

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Watch the expert witnesses the defense puts up. They will put doubt in the minds of the jury that Chauvin is responsible for Floyd's death. I've been on juries where it's a slam dunk the guy is guilty. There's too much doubt here Chauvin killed Floyd or even wanted to kill him.


That's fine. Due process, baby.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2021, 09:35:21 AM
OK, so now you understand a second degree murder charge DOES NOT require 'intent'.



It requires intent unless there's a felony involved such as shooting a gun into a crowd of people with no intention of killing anybody. Why do you think Chauvin committed a felony with all those cameras on him?




George no longer had a pulse way before the ambulance arrived.



So you believe a rookie cop's evaluation over the medical experts in the ambulance who said Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Just because someone can't find a pulse doesn't mean there isn't one. Most, if not all jurors will have doubt Chauvin killed Floyd. Riots are coming. Opportunities to get some free Nikes and big screen tvs are coming!
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 12, 2021, 09:55:59 AM
It requires intent unless there's a felony involved such as shooting a gun into a crowd of people with no intention of killing anybody. Why do you think Chauvin committed a felony with all those cameras on him?

1) OK again, second degree murder charge does not require *intent*
2) Your 'shooting in the crowd' have ZERO relevance to this case.
3) He clearly caused the death of George Floyd. As Dr. Thomas concluded, she had never been involved in any investigation or cases that had so much evidentiary materials as this case do. Materials that she clearly testified, under oath and based on her medical broad experience - along with other 4 highly qualified medical professionals who testified in this case - and in great details; that confirmed George died due to cardiopulmonary arrest due to hypoxia as a result of the restraining by the officers.

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So you believe a rookie cop's evaluation over the medical experts in the ambulance who said Floyd was going into cardiac arrest....


Cops, rookie or otherwise, had undergone training in first response monitoring. They will only yield first response attention and care only under the presence of a medic.


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Just because someone can't find a pulse doesn't mean there isn't one.


 :o


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..Most, if not all jurors will have doubt Chauvin killed Floyd. Riots are coming. Opportunities to get some free Nikes and big screen tvs are coming!


 ::)
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2021, 10:16:44 AM
3) He clearly caused the death of George Floyd. As Dr. Thomas concluded, she had never been involved in any investigation or cases that had so much evidentiary materials as this case do. Materials that she clearly testified, under oath and based on her medical broad experience - along with other 4 highly qualified medical professionals who testified in this case - and in great details; that confirmed George died due to cardiopulmonary arrest due to hypoxia as a result of the restraining by the officers.



Have you ever done jury duty? There will be experts from both sides of the fence testifying. You're getting one side of the story. I believe the medical expert who done the actual autopsy is testifying or already done testifying. Check him out. I'm not following the case because the video and audio evidence I seen last year is enough for me to know Floyd died in the ambulance and Chauvin used an approved police department method of restraining a suspect so his actions aren't a felony. If Floyd wasn't on a 3X lethal dose of drugs, he'd be alive today. If the Minneapolis justice system was remotely fair, they'd be going after the drug dealer but his skin color prevents them from doing so.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 12, 2021, 10:52:48 AM

Have you ever done jury duty?

Yes.

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There will be experts from both sides of the fence testifying. You're getting one side of the story. I believe the medical expert who done the actual autopsy is testifying or already done testifying. Check him out.


Dr. Adam Baker did so Friday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkn0253SB0Q[/c]


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I'm not following the case because the video and audio evidence I seen last year is enough for me to know Floyd died in the ambulance and Chauvin used an approved police department method of restraining a suspect so his actions aren't a felony. If Floyd wasn't on a 3X lethal dose of drugs, he'd be alive today. If the Minneapolis justice system was remotely fair, they'd be going after the drug dealer but his skin color prevents them from doing so.

Show us the video or the evidence where the medics declared George died on the ambulance. Matter of fact, one of the medic involved that day already testified earlier last week. I will tell you that medic is one of the prosecutor's witness, FWIW.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2021, 11:10:48 AM
Show us the video or the evidence where the medics declared George died on the ambulance.


I already provided the dispatcher tape where the ambulance asked for backup because Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Floyd may have survived his heart attack in the ambulance and later died in the hospital. Doesn't really matter. Bottom line is Floyd didn't die under Chuavin's knee because a dead man can't go into cardiac arrest. As for your CNN video, they are going to present the most damning testimony. The other testimony will benefit Chauvin because it will leave doubt in the jurors minds that Chauvin killed Floyd.



Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 12, 2021, 11:44:57 AM
I already provided the dispatcher tape where the ambulance asked for backup because Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Floyd may have survived his heart attack in the ambulance and later died in the hospital. Doesn't really matter. Bottom line is Floyd didn't die under Chuavin's knee because a dead man can't go into cardiac arrest. As for your CNN video, they are going to present the most damning testimony. The other testimony will benefit Chauvin because it will leave doubt in the jurors minds that Chauvin killed Floyd.


Paramedic testimony:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC9_PHv-u7g


Paramedic said when he arrived at the scene he saw 3 officers on top of Floyd. He approached George Floyd and he tested pulse on carotid artery and felt no pulse. His pupils were largely dilated.


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I thought he was dead


No pulse from the carotid artery - no chest movement, large dilated pupils, BillyB. What would your friend nurse think that would mean?  :P


If not just watch and listen to the video.

Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2021, 01:53:24 PM
just watch and listen to the video.



I'm a busy guy trying to save the world from a deadly virus and experimental vaccines and you made me watch an 11 minute video pertaining to a guy who's already dead! I'm not surprised at the prosecutors questions and testimony from the medic. I need to hear the defense attorney's questions too. Seems like the media only wants to report one side of the story. Why did the medics call dispatch reporting Floyd was in cardiac arrest and need fire medics for backup 5 minutes after they took custody of Floyd from the cops? Looking at the video and hearing audio that there wasn't a pulse, we can all assume Floyd was dead under Chauvin's knee but truth is Floyd went into cardiac arrest in the ambulance.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 12, 2021, 02:24:34 PM
Every witness are cross-examined. The initial call was Code 2 (no siren or lights). It was eventually changed to Code 3.


George Floyd was motionless, no pulse, not breathing 4.5 minutes even before the ambulance arrived, with Derek still kneeling over George the whole time..


Body cam from the two other cops showed them checked George's pulse and didn't find any, then suggested flipping him over out of the 'prone' position. Derek didn't budge. The last time you can hear the cop saying 'he's passing out' as he can be seen shaking his motionless legs'.


So you can wait for whatever else you term to be the 'truth', but ignoring actual video footages of events, not only from spectators and security cameras, but from police body cam itself (forget the expert testimonies), are not enough for you tells me the 'truth' isn't necessarily what you're looking for.


BTW, the 'dispatcher' had already testified, too. She said she suspected something is wrong when for the entire 9 minutes they (3 cops) continued to keep George in the prone position with Derek kneeling on his neck and back. Prompting her to call in her sergeant.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQmL9eCYj50

 :P
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 12, 2021, 02:41:51 PM
http://www.npr.org/sections/trial-over-killing-of-george-floyd/2021/03/29/982430448/minneapolis-911-dispatcher-testifies-something-was-wrong (http://www.npr.org/sections/trial-over-killing-of-george-floyd/2021/03/29/982430448/minneapolis-911-dispatcher-testifies-something-was-wrong)
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2021, 03:05:48 PM
The initial call was Code 2 (no siren or lights). It was eventually changed to Code 3.



Thanks to the officer in charge, Chauvin. Chauvin upgraded the emergency to Code 3. Chauvin's history is going to be examined. He may have a reputation for handling thugs just fine. Never any problems or deaths. Or maybe his fellow officers will testify all 200+ thugs Chauvin has handled in his 19 years on the force were with 'lights out' methods using blunt trauma to the head or choke holds that make them pass out every time but I doubt it.
Title: Putin signs law allowing total off topic posts
Post by: 2tallbill on April 12, 2021, 03:09:53 PM
I thought I would join the topic of News about the Loch Ness Monster.

What happens if someone catches the Loch Ness Monster?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-44519189


(http://psmag.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_660/MTI3NTgyNTE2NTA3ODc1ODA2/plesiosaurus.webp)

Why the Loch Ness Monster is no plesiosaur
Read more: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19225764-900-why-the-loch-ness-monster-is-no-plesiosaur/#ixzz6rrTfC6Px

(http://www.royalsociety.org.nz/assets/ContentHeroImages/loch-ness-monster__ScaleMaxWidthWzY5MF0.png)

Move over Nessie: Real Scottish sea monster uncovered
http://phys.org/news/2016-09-nessie-real-scottish-sea-monster.html



Have scientists finally killed off the Loch Ness Monster?
http://theconversation.com/have-scientists-finally-killed-off-the-loch-ness-monster-123075


(http://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/711x459/http://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/484134552/960x0.jpg?fit=scale)

A Brief History of the Loch Ness Monster
http://psmag.com/environment/brief-history-loch-ness-monster-91180


Loch Ness Monster may be a giant eel, say scientists
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-49495145

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/3E08/production/_102308851_wriggleone.jpg)
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 12, 2021, 05:03:13 PM

Thanks to the officer in charge, Chauvin. Chauvin upgraded the emergency to Code 3. Chauvin's history is going to be examined. He may have a reputation for handling thugs just fine. Never any problems or deaths. Or maybe his fellow officers will testify all 200+ thugs Chauvin has handled in his 19 years on the force were with 'lights out' methods using blunt trauma to the head or choke holds that make them pass out every time but I doubt it.


It bears no relevance to what happened, and his actions, on May 25, 2020. He's not on trial t what he has done prior to May 25, 2020. He's on trial on what he did May 25, 2020.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2021, 06:53:47 PM

It bears no relevance to what happened, and his actions, on May 25, 2020. He's not on trial t what he has done prior to May 25, 2020. He's on trial on what he did May 25, 2020.


A person's reputation is the most important thing that will be discussed in a trial like this. If Chauvin was always a good boy that served the community well and is a likeable character just like uncle Joe, the jury may view Floyd's death was due to an overdose and rule not guilty. If they rule a nice guy being guilty, he may get 5 years in prison. If Chauvin was a bad boy all his life and is not a likeable character, he may get 40 years in prison. Big difference and it all depends on a person's past history.


There are riots in Minneapolis right now. Suspect fought against being apprehended and got in his car. Cops yelled for taser. Female cop accidently pulled out a gun instead of taser and shot him dead. Should she get charged with murder? Video in link below. Cops in Minneapolis are getting soft and making mistakes. They should've been more aggressive with the guy. Quality cops wouldn't want to work in Minneapolis anyway so they aren't going to get the finest people on that force. That suspect freed himself from a number of cops and could've drove down the road running people over.


Minnesota cop shouted 'Taser!' but fired gun (yahoo.com) (http://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-cop-shouted-taser-fired-220541939.html)
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2021, 07:14:39 PM



Joe is withholding most of the money Congress approved for Ukraine until Ukraine does what he wants. The timing couldn't be worse. Investing in Biden will bring good returns for Russia.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/biden-withholding-150-million-ukraine-tensions-russia-rise-wonder-kind-trouble-hunters-gotten-time/


More photos of Hunter being leaked. Hunter is just too sexy for his body.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/daily-mail-confirms-already-knew-abandoned-hunter-laptop-legit-biden-family-sick/?ff_source=Gab&ff_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&ff_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5mtclwloEQ
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 14, 2021, 01:56:30 PM

I'm a busy guy trying to save the world from a deadly virus and experimental vaccines and you made me watch an 11 minute video pertaining to a guy who's already dead! I'm not surprised at the prosecutors questions and testimony from the medic. I need to hear the defense attorney's questions too. Seems like the media only wants to report one side of the story. Why did the medics call dispatch reporting Floyd was in cardiac arrest and need fire medics for backup 5 minutes after they took custody of Floyd from the cops? Looking at the video and hearing audio that there wasn't a pulse, we can all assume Floyd was dead under Chauvin's knee but truth is Floyd went into cardiac arrest in the ambulance.


Well BillyB not sure if you're following this case, but the defense just concluded the 2nd day presentation of its expert witnesses. Hopefully they can come with a better pack the next two days because it's been a flop both days. Monday was a total flop as their expert witnesses imploded.

Today's Dr. David Fowler, its star witness, actually helped the State with two of its charges against Chauvin, manslaughter / second degree unintentional murder. You can't present yourself as an experienced scientist, then conclude your opinion based on that experience but yet present no calculation, quantification, and scientific analysis to support your conclusion.

That's two expert witnesses charging $350.00/hr that went out the window. The defense should find out if they can get a refund.


 :(
Title: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: 2tallbill on April 14, 2021, 02:29:49 PM
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Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 14, 2021, 09:34:33 PM
Now why would Putin waste his time signing a law for just two more terms? What’s wrong with say 4? Seem rather a silly move in his part.

Besides why just run? It doesn’t guarantee he gets elected. Hhmmm, something doesn’t sounds right in this shenanigan.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: BillyB on April 14, 2021, 10:48:23 PM
Now why would Putin waste his time signing a law for just two more terms? What’s wrong with say 4?



Putin is not a selfish guy. He only wants to serve two terms at a time before going after another 2.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 15, 2021, 05:45:58 AM
Makes sense now. The ol’ Bolshevik mind trick! Not bad.

The question on why he’d want to serve 2 more terms, then rewrite another law for two more terms end over end is illustrative of his Russian lineage and family-oriented culture. Understandable to me now.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Gator on April 15, 2021, 02:37:06 PM

That's two expert witnesses charging $350.00/hr that went out the window. The defense should find out if they can get a refund.


$350/hr is cheap. 

I was recently involved with an auto injury case. Our attorney had arranged for a surgeon to testify.  The surgeon's expert witness fees for testimony would have been $15,000 per day (or any part thereof).    The insurance company settled, thus preempting a trial and testimony.   
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 15, 2021, 10:27:13 PM
$350/hr is cheap. 

I was recently involved with an auto injury case. Our attorney had arranged for a surgeon to testify.  The surgeon's expert witness fees for testimony would have been $15,000 per day (or any part thereof).    The insurance company settled, thus preempting a trial and testimony.

 :o CHEAP?!?!

Putin would likely forego the two terms he aspire to for that $15K daily rate.

$350.00/hr + expense seemed ridiculous to me but apparently that is the going rate for these ‘for profit’ expert witnesses. I’m in the wrong biz. Engineering consultants maxes out at $200.00/hr.
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Gator on April 16, 2021, 08:24:22 AM

I’m in the wrong biz. Engineering consultants maxes out at $200.00/hr.


From my recent experience, the auto injury claims "racket" would be a wise career choice in our ever more litigious society. 

Most of the smartest university graduates choose a career to become a lawyer, MBA, or medical doctor.  Those who chose the first two achieved far greater financial success than those who chose becoming a medical doctor. 
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: GQBlues on April 16, 2021, 09:14:14 AM
From my recent experience, the auto injury claims "racket" would be a wise career choice in our ever more litigious society. 

Most of the smartest university graduates choose a career to become a lawyer, MBA, or medical doctor.  Those who chose the first two achieved far greater financial success than those who chose becoming a medical doctor.


I have been noticing an increase of PMs being hired by these big GCs and developers that we deal with. Fresh out of schools, book-fed and sorely lacking in actual experience. It's really painful having to deal with them. There are also innovative ways many of these engineers and project managers negotiate their compensation. Contractually, per project, or percentage of total project cost/s. Full time employment seems to be the least in the desired employment options these days.


Consultation work is becoming more and more popular. Fascinating that Asian and Pacific Islander is right behind Caucasian (white non-Hispanic) that comprise the majority of consultants, and in different specialties.


http://insight.ieeeusa.org/articles/2019-consultants-fee-survey/ (http://insight.ieeeusa.org/articles/2019-consultants-fee-survey/)
Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: ML on April 16, 2021, 09:32:27 AM
Most of the smartest university graduates choose a career to become a lawyer, MBA, or medical doctor.  Those who chose the first two achieved far greater financial success than those who chose becoming a medical doctor.

Not true at all concerning the financial success.

Pay for medical doctors far outstrip pay for average MBA and average attorney.

Yes, SOME MBAs and SOME lawyers earn big bucks; but most stagnate in mediocre jobs with mediocre pay.

Virtually zero medical doctors find themselves in that position.

There is a shortage of MDs world wide; there is no shortage of MBAs, and an excess of lawyers.

Almost every two-bit school in the nation (and probably the world) have MBA programs and are churning them out by the zillions.  These programs are acknowledged to be cash-cows for the schools.

Almost as bad for law schools with weekend, night time and on-line programs growing every year.

Title: Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
Post by: Gator on April 16, 2021, 04:12:18 PM
Not true at all concerning the financial success.

You are probably correct for all US graduates considering the factories turning out the degrees.  .
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My comment is about the top of the field as stated in a CNBC interview with a retiring Wall Street magnate.  He went to Harvard, and over his life he maintained contact with several of his Harvard alums.   All had elite intelligence, going to the best graduate programs,  and he observed that those who chose law or Wall Street achieved more financial success than those  who became doctors.  Of course, the doctors certainly did well other than not owning private jets, etc.