What would a U.S.-Russia war look like?

[Doll]

Please do

[Doll]

My ex lives in Crimea, so I know from him how it is there- I mean what people of Crimea feel. They willingly wanted to be the part of Russia. Willingly!
What does USA have to do with it?
For those who wanted my opinion- it is between Russia and Ukraine and nobody else.
Personally I have nothing against either of these nations at all.
Never had.
 

[JayH]

My ex lives in Crimea, so I know from him how it is there- I mean what people of Crimea feel. They willingly wanted to be the part of Russia. Willingly!
What does USA have to do with it?
For those who wanted my opinion- it is between Russia and Ukraine and nobody else.
Personally I have nothing against either of these nations at all.
Never had.

What business is it of Russia to interfere in the internal affairs of another country? When Russia learns how to behave in not invading sovereign countries and respect international agreements it was a party to--then maybe you can expect others to also.
I said this before-- what is happening now in Ukraine is NOT the USA doing-- it is Putins megalmaniac ambition to recreate the Soviet Union.
There is NO justification for Russian invading the Crimea-- there is NO justification for Russia's invasion of mainland Ukraine or it's attempt to destabilise Ukraine.

[Doll]

Jay, I think it is more than that. It is a big game IMHO.

[Faux Pas]

Jay, I think it is more than that. It is a big game IMHO.

So who in your opinion is playing the puppet master?

[Doll]

Faux, do you remember I am Russian? Do you remember Snowden?
You think yourself about bigger picture.

[lordtiberius]

Just for you in a p-l-a-i-n English- domestic problems are domestic problems of a SOUVEREIN state (AND ONLY), so let it resolve this problem itself.
Got it?

And who are you exactly? 

Just another foreigner talking about the politics of a foreign country.

[Doll]

Me? I am a Russian citizen who DID NOT participate in this thread.
 

[Faux Pas]

Faux, do you remember I am Russian? Do you remember Snowden?
You think yourself about bigger picture.

Yes to all of the above. Thank you for answering the question 

[lordtiberius]

Me? I am a Russian citizen who DID NOT participate in this thread.

Don't call yourself a citizen.  You are at best a Putinist slave.  A citizen would imply you exercise responsibilities.  No evidence of that otherwise you would not let this beast emerge in your midst or you would leave, but you presume to pontificate to us what we should think.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Don't call yourself a citizen.  You are at best a Putinist slave.  A citizen would imply you exercise responsibilities.  No evidence of that otherwise you would not let this beast emerge in your midst or you would leave, but you presume to pontificate to us what we should think.

Most of your posts are name calling those you don't agree with.  Frankly, most of what I have read of you are ramblings of a angry little dude.  You may be the first person I put on ignore just so I don't have to waste time scrolling past your long winded posts full of pictures that contribute nothing.


I have always found the most radical religious types to be the most judgmental.

[LiveFromUkraine]

I'll forward your thoughts to Putin.

What about the EU and US? 

[lordtiberius]

You may be the first person I put on ignore just so I don't have to waste time

thx!

[LiveFromUkraine]

Yes It gets rather boring after a while listening to the same b*** especially from armchair experts who do not even live in any of these countries. lol or seldom visit.

I will be uploading a newer version of my site end of next week available in German/italian/English/French and Russian I could do with some genuine feedback I hope it will be far superior to anything else out there and of course it is totally FREE for all forum members

lol  You living there doesn't make you an expert either ole chap.  I take it you are a fluent Russian speaking expat in Russia.   Too bad this is all happening in Ukraine.

[Doll]

Don't call yourself a citizen.  You are at best a Putinist slave.  A citizen would imply you exercise responsibilities.  No evidence of that otherwise you would not let this beast emerge in your midst or you would leave, but you presume to pontificate to us what we should think.

Sir, see this sentense of your highlited?
That's why I didn't post in this thread.
Sick of brainwashed people

[LiveFromUkraine]

I tend to agree...however the divide between the east and west is real. It has been there for years.  I see to many pro-russians in many of the videos who are from Ukraine.

Exactly and that is why I get a chuckle at people who try and say those Ukrainians are Russians trying to stir up trouble.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Sir, see this sentense of your highlited?
That;s why I didn't post in this tread.
Sick of brainwashed people
 

Doll, I just put this simple man on ignore and here you are quoting him.   


In the other thread he was just complaining about people calling others names when they don't agree.  You can't discuss anything with such people.  Best to accept them for what they are and not waste time.


They suck up western propaganda like nothing and condemn everyone that doesn't believe that propaganda to be influenced by Putin and his propaganda. 


The US has history of doing the same things they have done in Kiev.  You will see most of these types of guys gloss over that fact.  Hell, there is a conversation by the US talking about who should run Ukraine.  Yet, they change the subject and continue posting links from Yahoo.

[Doll]

Don't call yourself a citizen.  You are at best a Putinist slave.  A citizen would imply you exercise responsibilities.  No evidence of that otherwise you would not let this beast emerge in your midst or you would leave, but you presume to pontificate to us what we should think.

Please, do us a favor- don't think at all hahaaaaaaaaaaaa

[fathertime]

Please, do us a favor- don't think at all hahaaaaaaaaaaaa

ha!  What he does isn't called thinking!

Doll, I just put this simple man on ignore and here you are quoting him.   

 .

Hey LFU!


I encourage you to take the guy off of ignore.  Keep him talking as he can't help but harm his own cause, which is good for us that would like to keep America out of these foreign affairs. 


Fathertime! 

[LiveFromUkraine]

Hey LFU!


I encourage you to take the guy off of ignore.  Keep him talking as he can't help but harm his own cause, which is good for us that would like to keep America out of these foreign affairs. 


Fathertime!

haha  You can see not many members are getting involved in discussion with him.  There is a reason.  I rather not have to scroll through a wall of photos and gibberish.  Anyone can see from his posting history whether to take him serious or not.

[fathertime]

My ex lives in Crimea, so I know from him how it is there- I mean what people of Crimea feel. They willingly wanted to be the part of Russia. Willingly!
What does USA have to do with it?
For those who wanted my opinion- it is between Russia and Ukraine and nobody else.
Personally I have nothing against either of these nations at all.
Never had.

Hey Doll, thanks for offering your opinion. As you can see experiences/opinions like yours are unwelcome from some.  If you don't mind me asking, you mentioned that your Ex is living in Crimea...what did he think about the 97% vote for annexation?  I think that couldn't possibly be correct...but it still seems clear that a majority probably are happy they are now formally a part of Russia and voted that way. 


Fathertime! 

[Doll]

Don't call yourself a citizen.  You are at best a Putinist slave.  A citizen would imply you exercise responsibilities.  No evidence of that otherwise you would not let this beast emerge in your midst or you would leave, but you presume to pontificate to us what we should think.

Beast- who?
Would leave- where to?
 

[Faux Pas]

What about the EU and US?

What about the US and the EU? Did you note some Americans and Germans, Brits or Italians burnt in the BBQ? How about on the other government buildings? Maybe in the Russian tanks? You're pissing and moaning about folks sucking on Western media like a crack pipe yet, that is exactly what you are doing on the Putin propaganda machine.

I like you LFU. Usually you make a hellava lot of sense. Yet, once in a great while you're brain dead, like now. Why is it that because Putin wants to shit all over Ukraine that the US or the EU has to be at fault? You and several others seem to have to self defecate. That is a sickness friend. Perhaps, Putin wishes to decimate Ukraine and it has nothing to do the West?

[Anotherkiwi]

Just for you in a p-l-a-i-n English- domestic problems are domestic problems of a SOUVEREIN state (AND ONLY), so let it resolve this problem itself.
Got it?

Doll, I don't think you will find many people here who disagree with this answer.  However, why is Russia interfering in the SOVEREIGN state of Ukraine?  No matter how many people in Crimea wanted to be part of Russia (and I have no problem accepting that a majority did, even if not the ridiculous "97%"), Crimea is still part of the SOVEREIGN state of Ukraine.  If that part of the country truly wants to secede, then let Ukraine run a referendum which includes the choice for people to remain part of their SOVEREIGN country.
 
As for what is happening in eastern Ukraine, Russia has admitted that its own security services are involved in the unrest which is going on, even if they haven't gone as far as admitting that their own troops have crossed the border.  Is that not also interfering in the domestic affairs of a SOVEREIGN state?

[BillyB]

Just for you in a p-l-a-i-n English- domestic problems are domestic problems of a SOUVEREIN state (AND ONLY), so let it resolve this problem itself.
Got it?

For those who wanted my opinion- it is between Russia and Ukraine and nobody else.

Your first quote doesn't match your second.

My ex lives in Crimea, so I know from him how it is there- I mean what people of Crimea feel. They willingly wanted to be the part of Russia. Willingly!
 

Check out Article 73 of Ukraine's Constitution. Any alterations of it's borders have to be decided on a vote by all Ukrainians. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say Ukraine's borders are to be decided by Crimea and Russia.