What would a U.S.-Russia war look like?

[GQBlues]

Oh no. The grammar police is here. RUN!!!

Running is obviously what the women do when they finally looked at you...

Besides, grammar is the least of this sheepherder's problem. For someone whose first language is English, I'm still trying to figure out what this rambling was about...

...
he is unfortunatly one of those people from his country who create a negative image the rest of the world stereotypes in the negative,

fortunatly he is in the minority in his own country , pretty sure he is actually related to andrew fi lol

SX

Talk about MOBer supreme, eh? He's almost at your level, LOL. Almost. At least he apparently netted himself a 'woman' already.

[GQBlues]

LOL. I just read this in the Monday morning comedy section....

"The so-called referenda in ... parts of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions were illegal and we do not recognize the outcome," E.U. foreign policy chief said. "Those who organized the referenda have no democratic legitimacy."..

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/eu-ukraine-refuse-accept-results-illegal-referendum-n102816

Pretty hysterical coming from someone who is supporting an illegitimate government, an illegal coup, interference in another country's affairs, obstructing investigation of mass murder, financing terrorism, etc...

[lordtiberius]

Spelunking to new lows . . . a pimp complaining about his clients and more comments from the unfunny man.

There are several sources of legitimacy: morality, majority, golden rule & the rule of the gun.

Gazprom to cut Ukraine & Europe off breaking . . . glad Obama is blocking Keystone.

[GQBlues]

USA/EU acts of terrorism

"...The video, shot by someone at the scene of the confrontation, has been authenticated based on accounts by AP journalists at the site and was consistent with AP's own reporting on what happened...."


tsk, tsk, tsk

 

[GQBlues]

USA! USA! USA! USA!

[BillyB]

USA/EU acts of terrorism

"...The video, shot by someone at the scene of the confrontation, has been authenticated based on accounts by AP journalists at the site and was consistent with AP's own reporting on what happened...."

I thought you were against western media propaganda? Read the article. the AP had journalists and a photographer at the scene as witnesses. That's it! Isn't it strange the AP doesn't have any film or photography of what happened? They rely on RT(Russia Today) news, who plastered numerous videos on Youtube and Russian state run media, to get the meat of the story. RT video below.


Based off other articles on the net, the Ukrainian National Guard are the alleged gunman based off a question someone asked one gunman of their identity. If the Ukrainian government authorized this and really wanted to shoot voters in order to stop the referendum vote, wouldn't it make sense to send the military to every poll station?


In America when bullets start flying, Americans go scattering. In east Ukraine, the brave citizens there stay in line. All throughout the crisis we've seen armed pro Russian militia take over government buildings in order to set up this vote. Now it's the BIG day, they disappear and a few Ukrainian National Guardsmen are able take the building back without anybody shooting at them. The Ukrainian army has struggled to gain control of the situation and getting those buildings back but a few National Guardsmen shows how easily it's done. Things that make you go "Hmmmmm".


Anyway, this and other videos of what happened there are very counter productive to what Ukraine's intern government is trying to do, will promote civil war and get Putin more support from Russian citizens to get involved in Ukraine. Regardless who's at fault for the deaths, this hurts Ukraine and Putin is going to run with the story.

[stilllooking]

All throughout the crisis we've seen armed pro Russian militia take over government buildings in order to set up this vote. Now it's the BIG day, they disappear and a few Ukrainian National Guardsmen are able take the building back without anybody shooting at them. The Ukrainian army has struggled to gain control of the situation and getting those buildings back but a few National Guardsmen shows how easily it's done. Things that make you go "Hmmmmm".

They did need people to go stand in queue's for the polling stations. Or maybe they all went to vote at the same time?

[lordtiberius]

EU-US terrorism?

Is the shooter an American or member or the EU?

No. Financed then?

Got proof?

Was the shots fired in self defense?

Don't know.

Hmm.  OK. They hate America so much but don't leave . . .

[GQBlues]

LOL. Here we go again....

The article read:

"...has been authenticated based on accounts by AP journalists at the site and was consistent with AP's own (OWN) reporting on what happened...."

To which, Mr. CLOD said....

...Isn't it strange the AP doesn't have any film or photography of what happened? ...

No. Not really.

Their journalists were on the scene and reported (and authenticated) events taking place. LOL. Is this another of your *non-binding*, *dissenting opinion* episodes?

LOL.

USA! USA! USA!



 

[GQBlues]

...Got proof?...

Got friend? 

[Gator]

We interrupt this babble..........For those less experienced fellows who feel unnecessarily criticized by someone with years of experience, keep in mind what RW say about jokes, "In every joke there is some truth."    Examine any criticism here for any applicability.  If applicable, even if barely so, try to improve.  Some RW may appreciate it.

Maybe one day you can turn the RWD babble and criticism into banter.  Mission Impossible perhaps because that requires parties to have a SOH and a friendly nature.

[lordtiberius]

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Where are all these new products from Russia? Crimeans, those that actually live there want to know.

[BillyB]

Their journalists were on the scene and reported (and authenticated) events taking place.

So? Shooting and deaths were verified during a referendum voting but did you read the part "The bloodshed in the town of Krasnoarmeisk occurred hours after dozens of armed men shut down voting in a referendum on sovereignty for the region. One of them identified the group as being national guardsmen.?"


The AP is reporting what one guy heard from one of the guys in uniform as to their identity. The AP verified the events, not who did it, but you are already figuring the West is behind this shooting and labeling them terrorists.


Check your PM box. You should be getting an invitation any day now from Putin to join his propaganda team. You're good at it because you actually believe what your saying.

[GQBlues]

So? blah, blah, blah...

So it IS another of your episodes... 

[stilllooking]

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Where are all these new products from Russia? Crimeans, those that actually live there want to know.

There are two possibilities:
Despite Putin's freakish strength and conditioning he has not yet finished building that bridge to Crimea from the Russian mainland or ruble's are not (yet) being accepted at the Ukrainian borders to allow goods through before the papers have been checked by 10.000 civil servants to make sure they are filled in correctly.

[BillyB]

Another piece from your article GQ:


The video, shot by someone at the scene of the confrontation, has been authenticated based on accounts by AP journalists at the site and was consistent with AP's own reporting on what happened.


GQ, explain to us why AP journalists at the scene have nothing to record the events with but pen and paper and have to rely on other people to film the events?

[stilllooking]

If USA citizens are so frightened of Russia they're  afraid to honour their agreement with Ukraine,regarding Ukraine giving up it's Nuclear weapons,then what's the point in the USA having all it's military strength.?

It's highly unlikely anyone will attack USA with all the nuclear missiles at it's disposal,so why not just disband the vast majority of fleets,Air-force and troops..they're not needed...just a waste of taxpayers money.

The same applies to the UK.

Then we can all let Putin do what he wants..oh hang- on he does that anyway.

The UK is not scared of Putin, but, they are scared to death all those Russian oligarchs will leave londongrad and take their billions with them leaving the high end property market in tatters, bond street on the verge of collapse etc. It would ruin the whole picture they are painting of the economy improving just in time for the next elections.

[GQBlues]

Another piece from your article GQ:


The video, shot by someone at the scene of the confrontation, has been authenticated based on accounts by AP journalists at the site and was consistent with AP's own reporting on what happened.


GQ, explain to us why AP journalists at the scene have nothing to record the events with but pen and paper and have to rely on other people to film the events?

Try and show the readers you can read. I am still holding a bit of faith in you since you're at least an 'American'. But man, you sure are doing a great job being a lump.

Understand the differences between *pen* *paper* *camera*, then understand what the word *journalist* means.

Ah heck, let me help a bruddah out on the latter:

JOURNALIST defined:

noun

... a person who writes for newspapers or magazines or prepares news to be broadcast on radio or television.

synonyms reporter, correspondent, columnist, writer, commentator, reviewer, etc...

Now, you won't find *video, pictures, photography, photos* in neither the definition or in any of its synonyms right? Why do you think that is? Now, re-read the excerpt from the article you just quoted...

Do you understand now?

Sheeesh! You guys definitely make it soooo easy for me. Welcome to the MOB!

USA! USA! USA!

Yohan, weren't you bragging to us that you were an 'honor student' in school? Did that happen to be a school for the impaired? 

[lordtiberius]

There are two possibilities:
Despite Putin's freakish strength and conditioning he has not yet finished building that bridge to Crimea from the Russian mainland or ruble's are not (yet) being accepted at the Ukrainian borders to allow goods through before the papers have been checked by 10.000 civil servants to make sure they are filled in correctly.

More US-EU terrorism win win

[Dewed]

Off topic and purely my opinion, but if you are going to quote someone actually quote them. Selectively edited is OK, but altering what they said? C'mon, any one with a moral compass obtained from a box of Cracker Jacksİ knows that is just plain wrong.

[sleepycat]

Besides, grammar is the least of this sheepherder's problem.

Get with the times bro and do some research. Ask anyone and they'll tell you that 'sheep jokes' are only applicable to New Zealanders, not Aussies.

Talk about MOBer supreme, eh?

Now how can we possibly ever hope to compete with a veteran MOBer such as yourself, someone who has reached the highest pinnacle of MOBerism. After all we along with the rest of the simpletons on this board, are only here to receive your daily golden words of wisdom.

[BillyB]

JOURNALIST defined:

noun

... a person who writes for newspapers or magazines or prepares news to be broadcast on radio or television.

How can a journalist prepare a story to be broadcast on tv without photos and video? Your article also stated there was a photographer there who witnessed the shooting and with today's technology, cameras have video mode. Even mobile phones can take video. Maybe the team of journalists and photographers were not allowed to shoot video because they may catch something not supposed to be seen? Less than a week ago pro Russians declared war on the media.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/separatists-in-eastern-ukraine-target-journalists-in-all-out-information-war/2014/05/06/d8270ba6-5f83-4b9a-9ebe-a29ba95823e1_story.html


Here's a site that's asking for help identifying the shooters. The site claims there's no National Guard unit in Krasnoarmeisk and the Unit Dnepr, which was the one the shooters were allegedly from, took no part and the Ukrainian authorities denied they were there. Unit Dnepr is a special forces unit. Look at the photos in the link below and the previous youtube video I provided and try and tell me these guys are special forces quality.


http://inforesist.org/battalion-dnepr-was-not-in-krasnoarmeisk-help-to-identify-the-shooters/?lang=en


Now if it's found out Putin was behind this, will you take back your America created this terrorism and criticize Russia? Probably not, if Russia was behind it, it's okay if people die by their hands because America started this. Right?

[GQBlues]

Get with the times bro and do some research. Ask anyone and they'll tell you that 'sheep jokes' are only applicable to New Zealanders, not Aussies...

Who said I was joking?

...Now how can we possibly ever hope to compete with a veteran MOBer such as yourself, someone who has reached the highest pinnacle of MOBerism. After all we along with the rest of the simpletons on this board, are only here to receive your daily golden words of wisdom.

Obviously you missed my wonderful description of an MOBer...someone like you typifies one. No, change that, epitomizes one.

[GQBlues]

...How can a journalist prepare a story to be broadcast on tv without photos and video?...blah...

 

[Anotherkiwi]

Get with the times bro and do some research. Ask anyone and they'll tell you that 'sheep jokes' are only applicable to New Zealanders, not Aussies.

You won't find any New Zealanders that believe that!