What would a U.S.-Russia war look like?

[LiveFromUkraine]

Rwd taking pro-putin moderation.  Ft's avatar upside down looks like half my scrotom

ha!  Nice try, but no one is believing you.  I think it is obvious you haven't seen your scrotum in quite some time. 

[lordtiberius]

http://m.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-acknowledges-sending-aid-to-eastern-ukraine-separatist-leader-visits-moscow/2014/06/11/11dad9e3-2d08-4169-9aca-510c53bfca02_story.html

Russia admits aiding Rebels

Anything still in denial about this Russian invasion?

[tjeff]

Generally it is always impossible to see clearly in the case of a war or a political conflict, what is really going on. The promoted issues are NEVER the real issues. Never have been. Politics is a dirty business that consists of lies (and I'm not alone in this: http://www.citationtube.com/voltaire-politics-en-175.html )So it makes no real sense to take any side. It's never good against evil, it's always evil against evil...

[lordtiberius]

Easy to say when its not your ass getting kicked.

[tfcrew]

...it's always evil against evil...

What if the lesser of two evils is absolutely wicked through and through?

[southernX]

more on the invasion of ukraine

http://aco.nato.int/statement-on-russian-main-battle-tanks.aspx

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[southernX]

another very good article below on the reality of whats going on in ukraine imo


lets hope it does not come to fruition


http://maidantranslations.com/2014/07/14/dmitry-tymchuk-a-couple-of-words-about-current-events-in-eastern-ukraine/

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[Boethius]

Meanwhile, this is what one of Russia's most watched television stations was reporting -

[onlyFSU4me]

 Those are some sick minded people who would put a story like that out... and stupid! Do they really think that a story like that wouldn't come out and spread across the world in this day and age with communications being as advanced as they are? Someone there would have had an iphone or something and record such an horrific act if it really happened, or at the least many people would be telling the same story instead of just one woman. What a joke!

[Anotherkiwi]

The pity of this is, as we've seen before, that this actress seems extremely plausible if you don't know the city's geography (name of the main square) or industries (lack of coal-mining).  How many watching this as reported would have the local knowledge to know that her story was a lie?  I certainly wouldn't, although the story seems far-fetched to me in any case, and I doubt that there would be many members of this forum who would either.  How many on here have actually been to Slavyansk?

The other thing that struck me was that only brain-dead zombies would stand by and let it happen as described.  No matter what the threat might be (guns, screams of "you will be next if you interfere!" or similar), SOMEBODY would have tried to stop what was happening.

With a main public square supposedly packed with mothers, the execution squad would not have got out alive. 

[southernX]

Meanwhile, this is what one of Russia's most watched television stations was reporting -

the ukraine reporting of that ''story ''  below


New low in Russia's propaganda war

http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/halya-coynash-new-low-in-russias-propaganda-war-356010.html

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[ML]

And yet some people still deny THEY are the scum of the world.

[Muzh]

Those are some sick minded people who would put a story like that out... and stupid! Do they really think that a story like that wouldn't come out and spread across the world in this day and age with communications being as advanced as they are? Someone there would have had an iphone or something and record such an horrific act if it really happened, or at the least many people would be telling the same story instead of just one woman. What a joke!

Actually, that was the doings of the Obama administration trying to discredit the Russian government as if they were creating propaganda. You can clearly see the background is somewhere in Burbank, CA.


Yep.

[Muzh]

The pity of this is, as we've seen before, that this actress seems extremely plausible if you don't know the city's geography (name of the main square) or industries (lack of coal-mining).  How many watching this as reported would have the local knowledge to know that her story was a lie?  I certainly wouldn't, although the story seems far-fetched to me in any case, and I doubt that there would be many members of this forum who would either.  How many on here have actually been to Slavyansk?

Absolutrely. Do you really believe that the average Russian can tell the difference between Slavyask and Burbank, CA?

The other thing that struck me was that only brain-dead zombies would stand by and let it happen as described.  No matter what the threat might be (guns, screams of "you will be next if you interfere!" or similar), SOMEBODY would have tried to stop what was happening.

With a main public square supposedly packed with mothers, the execution squad would not have got out alive. 

Now wait a minute. Don't you know that ALL Ukrainians are godless souls that would martyr anyone who opposes their fascist views?


Yep.

[Muzh]

the ukraine reporting of that ''story ''  below


New low in Russia's propaganda war

http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/halya-coynash-new-low-in-russias-propaganda-war-356010.html

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Lies, lies and nothing but lies. She is a saintly Russian woman from western Ukraine.


Yep.

[Ranetka]

US- Russia war on who-will-be-supplying-EU-with-gas looks like destroying Ukraine.
Whatever the outcome there will be loads of pretty young not very fussy girls available to MOB crowd. And perhaps even more Ukrainian prostitutes on Russian streets.

[Boethius]

I don't believe this is, or ever was, about who is supplying the EU with gas.

[Muzh]

US- Russia war on who-will-be-supplying-EU-with-gas looks like destroying Ukraine.
Whatever the outcome there will be loads of pretty young not very fussy girls available to MOB crowd. And perhaps even more Ukrainian prostitutes on Russian streets.

I thought you had family in Ukraine. Funny way to express yourself about the future of your family.

[Ranetka]

We do not know what happen with family members, there is currently no internet connection of phone response. So  very much for brining democracy to one more country.

[Muzh]

We do not know what happen with family members, there is currently no internet connection of phone response. So  very much for brining democracy to one more country.

That was the smartest, most eloquent responses I've heard from a sheeple.

[Ranetka]

That was the smartest, most eloquent responses I've heard from a sheeple.

why do I even care

Mod3 - because we do warn users who insult.

[southernX]

another take on the story questioning its basis of facts etc


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/15/there-s-no-evidence-the-ukrainian-army-crucified-a-child-in-slovyansk.html#

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[Muzh]

another take on the story questioning its basis of facts etc


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/15/there-s-no-evidence-the-ukrainian-army-crucified-a-child-in-slovyansk.html#

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“Most of the guys I know decided to join the fighting in Ukraine after the [/size]Odessa fire[/color][/size],” Surkov, a former history student at Moscow State University, told The Daily Beast. “When I hear on television how Ukrainians are killing children, my blood boils.”
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[/size]I guess the KGB, oops, FSB achieved its goal.
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[/size]Meh, but what the hell are we listening to Russian traitors like Navalny? All the Russians flocking to Eastern Ukraine are saintly people rescuing their little brothers from the NAZI murderers.
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[/size]Yep.

[tfcrew]

Bloomberg News U.S., EU Escalate Russia Sanctions as Putin Holds Firm    By Margaret Talev and Indira A.R. Lakshmanan   July 16, 2014

The EU said it would halt lending for new public-sector projects in Russia by the European Investment Bank, the bloc’s in-house lender, and will use its influence to stop new lending by the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
“These sanctions are significant,” U.S. President Barack Obama said today at the White House. “But they are also targeted, designed to have maximum impact on Russia while limiting any spillover effects on American companies or those who are allies.”
At a news conference in Brasilia, Russian President Vladimir Putin called the U.S. sanctions “aggressive policy” and will only end up hurting American companies. The sanctions will lead U.S.-Russia relations to a dead end, he said.

 Video........
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-16/u-dot-s-dot-preparing-to-hit-russia-with-fresh-sanctions

[Muzh]

why do I even care

Mod3 - because we do warn users who insult.

Interesting. That was NOT her original response. But, what the hey. I'm a big boy. I can take it.