FSU and sex coaching

[Nightwish]

I thought I would share a fun insight in to something that happened last week.

Me and Tanya has been talking about kids, or rather the prospect of not getting any more kids, she has one already and when we were discussing the future we have touched this subject many times, but never really got to a conclusion, I don't really want more, and she has been - vague- about her wishes.
Anyway, 2 weeks ago she came here to visit me over the weekend and the subject came up again after a night of adventures, and she decided for herself, that no-  no more kids - this was a life she was enjoying and she wanted to keep the freedom and "carefree life".

So she made an appointment to see the gynecologist and have her tubes done. (her idea, I suggested I would do it but she refused to let me go under the knife) "No one touches my man there" was her comment with a wink in her eye.

Said and done, her appointment was Friday last week, I went down there to be with her during this, not that it is a big thing according to her, but I can at least be man enough to turn up and show my support.
We had made the appointment with a private clinic and she went through the preparations, the shaving was already taken care of the evening before by yours truly, I got an A+ on that by the nurse. (not that she needed to be shaved, but Tanya never revealed that to me)

Then her doctor came out and told me to follow them in to the office, when we came in she looked at us both and asked us, are we sure about this,. are we sure about that Tanya would be the one..and so on. We answered yes, yes yes we are sure and Tanya got to sign a paper.

and then she turned to me, and I got a long detailed explanation about how a woman works - with drawings , where all the things are, best positions to use during sex, asked if I do oral, and if so.. How? 

In about 25 minutes we got a detailed plan of the best positions for a woman, recommendations to have sex at least 3-4 times a week, I got about 4-5 times the "look" from the doc  - you do know this right. 
Then she turned to Tanya, and she got the same lecture, but of course directed how to do things for me, how to best take care of my needs. And made it very clear that both oral and ordinary sex was important for men to, with a strict look in here face.

I mean, I am in my 40:s, Tanya is in her 30:s and I felt like we were 15 years old visiting the youth clinic in there

Is this normal there, Tanya mostly shrugged it off as it was normal and something she heard before and my questions remained unanswered by her, I got the impression, this was a normal conversation between a gyno. and her patient.

Enlightening and a few good tips though 

The procedure itself took like 20 minutes and after 2 hours we were sent home..

[jone]

Glad she didn't demonstrate for you.

[msmob]

When I revealed I had had a vasectomy - hence defo no kids - lots of ladies thought this would 'lessen my manliness' and so it seems with your Tanya;)

 

[ML]

When I revealed I had had a vasectomy - hence defo no kids - lots of ladies thought this would 'lessen my manliness' and so it seems with your Tanya;)

Well actually it does.  If you measured before and after you would notice a 2 inch difference.  No big deal for some of us, but for others . . . .

[msmob]

Well actually it does.  If you measured before and after you would notice a 2 inch difference.  No big deal for some of us, but for others . . . .

 

I stated wearing glasses around the same time - I don't know what you mean ... !

[BillyB]

NightWish, yes it seems doctors over there can be abrasive and lecture you when giving you advice. My MIL  is a doctor and she seems that way every time she's giving me advice. She's even talk to me  how important it is for a man to take care of his sexual needs. I understand why your lady doesn't want you to get a vasectomy.  The complete ingredients in semen is believed to be healthy for a woman.  I've even had some FSU Women that wanted to use my semen for their nightly facial mask. Don't be surprised if you get that request too.

[ML]

I've even had some FSU Women that wanted to use my semen for their nightly facial mask.

As a female  doctor told me:
Testosterone has effect that it helps keep skin tighter.
This is why men's faces generally age less quickly than do women's.
Testosterone cream is available (most of it comes from BillyB) for women to use, but has some possible side effects as you can imagine.

[SANDRO43]

Testosterone cream is available (most of it comes from BillyB)

[BillyB]

Testosterone cream is available (most of it comes from BillyB) for women to use,

I have thought about marketing my product. Going to be expensive though. I have a limited daily supply.

[msmob]

My MIL  is a doctor and she seems that way every time she's giving me advice. She's even talk to me  how important it is for a man to take care of his sexual needs. I understand why your lady doesn't want you to get a vasectomy. 

You CLEARLY don't ..Judging by what you've just posted

Viz:

The complete ingredients in semen is believed to be healthy for a woman.

May be you hadn't heard .. sometimes - in the right place at the right time - it can have life changing consequences - just not in my case...

I've even had some FSU Women that wanted to use my semen for their nightly facial mask. Don't be surprised if you get that request too.

Thanks for an insight into your world ..... 

[mhr7]

The complete ingredients in semen is believed to be healthy for a woman.

It may be believed but it's not true.

Some urban legends involving semen have claimed it as an effective teeth whitener (likely arising from the fact that semen contains relatively high levels of zinc), a good source of protein (at most 1/20th of ejaculate is protein by mass), or a healthy nutrition supplement. Semen does not whiten teeth, and unless consumed in copious amounts, it is unlikely that ingesting semen will have any effect on dietary health. For those concerned, a typical ejaculate will contain only one or two Calories* and less than half a gram of protein.2

http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/article/swallowing-your-partners-ejaculate

I've even had some FSU Women that wanted to use my semen for their nightly facial mask. Don't be surprised if you get that request too.

Again, not healthy (in case any were wondering).

"The fluid contains a combination of sperm, enzymes, acids, and lipids," Dr. Zeichner explained. "Judging from these ingredients, despite any potential to help exfoliate dead cells from the skin, it is more likely to cause irritation more than anything else if applied to the face and left there for any extended period of time."

http://www.allure.com/story/does-semen-treat-acne-according-to-a-dermatologist

[kynrazor]

As a female  doctor told me:
Testosterone has effect that it helps keep skin tighter.
This is why men's faces generally age less quickly than do women's.
Testosterone cream is available (most of it comes from BillyB) for women to use, but has some possible side effects as you can imagine.

Man the sarcasm is strong. 

[BillyB]

It may be believed but it's not true.

So if a woman asked you to pull it out and finish on her hand or face so she can use your semen for a facial mask, you're going to get in a argument with her that semen isn't as healthy as she believes? Why look for information on why a woman could be wrong. There's info out there that would back the claim semen is healthy.


One thing semen has in it is zinc and zinc is believed to be an antioxidant and slows down the aging process of skin and muscles. Zinc deficiency can lead to an increased risk for infertility or diabetes.


http://draxe.com/zinc-benefits/


http://jezebel.com/a-complete-breakdown-of-the-nutritional-content-of-seme-953356816

[msmob]

Don't think semen is particularly 'healthy' or 'unhealthy' - as long as you both consented to an STD/ STI test to be sure ...

[mhr7]

So if a woman asked you to pull it out and finish on her hand or face so she can use your semen for a facial mask, you're going to get in a argument with her that semen isn't as healthy as she believes?

It's never happened to me but now that I know it can do more harm than good I just might. Feel free to argue with the dermatologist quoted in the article, I didn't conduct the studies.

Why look for information on why a woman could be wrong.

Because sometimes they are.

If a woman wants to get her daily allowance of zinc from semen, that's fine with me.

[ML]

If a woman wants to get her daily allowance of zinc from semen, that's fine with me.

Best way to obtain sufficient quantity would be to get it from seamen.

[BillyB]

Feel free to argue with the dermatologist quoted in the article, I didn't conduct the studies.

There was no study done. The dermatologist did mention a  benefit and didn't say semen was bad for the skin but it may irritate the skin. That's all. Article wasn't really about all the benefits of semen. It was about whether or not semen was good for treating acne.

[mhr7]

didn't say semen was bad for the skin but it may irritate the skin.

I wouldn't say irritation is good, but there is more -

Dr. Kirby strongly suggests that beauty aficionados worry less about the unproven possibility of glowing, semen-infused skin and more about the potential dangers of applying it to the face.
“Many people—even monogamous couples—have undiagnosed sexually transmitted infections (STIs) that could be spread to the mucous membranes (lips, nostrils and eyes) via topical application of male ejaculate for those seeking aesthetic improvement,” Kirby notes.
Many people who use semen facials either derive their ingredients from a monogamous male partner or claim that their source has been tested for STIs but one can never be too sure.
“So while smooth, soft, supple skin might be beautiful, chlamydia of the eye isn't,” says Kirby.
Beyond the possibility of STIs, some women might also be allergic to semen with symptoms that are anything but beneficial to the skin.
“More worrisome is the fact there have been a number of cases where a woman developed an allergy to one or more of the proteins in semen which result in allergic contact dermatitis (ACD) that is manifested by temporary erythema (redness) and by mild edema (swelling) on the skin areas to which it is applied,” says Kirby.
The condition—known as human seminal plasma protein hypersensitivity

http://www.thedailybeast.com/no-a-semen-facial-is-not-a-good-idea

Now you can argue with 2 dermatologists, or keep believing those women - your choice.

[BillyB]

Now you can argue with 2 dermatologists, or keep believing those women - your choice.

Don't need to argue with your 2 dermatologists. Neither of them said semen is bad for the skin for the average person. They warn against irritation for those who have hypersensitive skin and possible sexually transmitted infections that has nothing to do with the ingredients of semen coming from a healthy man.

 Dr Kirby recommends some products for skin and owns a clinic. It would be bad for business if he recommends a skin cream for the ladies that they can get for free at home without a prescription. Although semen is unproven to help skin, it is proven some of the ingredients in semen are good for the skin.

[msmob]

Is is JUST me - or is this a (BAD )example of the rather desperate  'sales' techniques in the bedroom of some members ?

[mhr7]

Dr Kirby recommends some products for skin and owns a clinic. It would be bad for business if he recommends a skin cream for the ladies that they can get for free at home without a prescription.

Right, don't rub semen (which doesn't help your skin and may cause damage) on your face cause it would kill my business.

[mhr7]

Is is JUST me - or is this a (BAD )example of the rather desperate  'sales' techniques in the bedroom of some members ?

There's no greater pleasure than killing time with a good 'semen on the face' argument. Try it sometime.

[Trenchcoat]

I thought I would share a fun insight in to something that happened last week.

Me and Tanya has been talking about kids, or rather the prospect of not getting any more kids, she has one already and when we were discussing the future we have touched this subject many times, but never really got to a conclusion, I don't really want more, and she has been - vague- about her wishes.
Anyway, 2 weeks ago she came here to visit me over the weekend and the subject came up again after a night of adventures, and she decided for herself, that no-  no more kids - this was a life she was enjoying and she wanted to keep the freedom and "carefree life".

So she made an appointment to see the gynecologist and have her tubes done. (her idea, I suggested I would do it but she refused to let me go under the knife) "No one touches my man there" was her comment with a wink in her eye.

Said and done, her appointment was Friday last week, I went down there to be with her during this, not that it is a big thing according to her, but I can at least be man enough to turn up and show my support.
We had made the appointment with a private clinic and she went through the preparations, the shaving was already taken care of the evening before by yours truly, I got an A+ on that by the nurse. (not that she needed to be shaved, but Tanya never revealed that to me)

Then her doctor came out and told me to follow them in to the office, when we came in she looked at us both and asked us, are we sure about this,. are we sure about that Tanya would be the one..and so on. We answered yes, yes yes we are sure and Tanya got to sign a paper.

and then she turned to me, and I got a long detailed explanation about how a woman works - with drawings , where all the things are, best positions to use during sex, asked if I do oral, and if so.. How? 

In about 25 minutes we got a detailed plan of the best positions for a woman, recommendations to have sex at least 3-4 times a week, I got about 4-5 times the "look" from the doc  - you do know this right. 
Then she turned to Tanya, and she got the same lecture, but of course directed how to do things for me, how to best take care of my needs. And made it very clear that both oral and ordinary sex was important for men to, with a strict look in here face.

I mean, I am in my 40:s, Tanya is in her 30:s and I felt like we were 15 years old visiting the youth clinic in there

Is this normal there, Tanya mostly shrugged it off as it was normal and something she heard before and my questions remained unanswered by her, I got the impression, this was a normal conversation between a gyno. and her patient.

Enlightening and a few good tips though 

The procedure itself took like 20 minutes and after 2 hours we were sent home..

Even for me this is all far too much information than I had possibly hoped for from this forum I'm sure forum members will actually be glad to see another bone arse question from me after reading through this, lol. 

[Nightwish]

Even for me this is all far too much information than I had possibly hoped for from this forum I'm sure forum members will actually be glad to see another bone arse question from me after reading through this, lol.

I placed it in [Experienced »] for a reason, and you don't belong in this section 

[msmob]

Ouch !   

[ML]

I placed it in [Experienced »] for a reason, and you don't belong in this section

Quite a good zinger . . . congratulations . . . although I don't like the piling on and bullying of TC in general.

But next time tell us about shaving a heart or some such on your gal.
Runways are nice also.

[BillyB]

Right, don't rub semen (which doesn't help your skin and may cause damage) on your face cause it would kill my business.

 Interesting that people can read the exact same thing and come up with different conclusions.  Where did you read that semen doesn't help you and is bad for the skin?  I read the part where sexually transmitted infections are bad.


 Dr. Kirby seems to be a semi celebrity in the dermatology world.  Has a clinic in Beverly Hills and does interviews for journalists and on TV. He also recommends products and it would probably violate his contract that pays him to endorse these products or to receive a substantial discount for him to sell in his clinic if he  supports their competitors products or even something that's free such as semen.  Dr. Kirby probably sells some creams for 100 bucks a jar. If just 10 women say they don't need to buy the cream because they read an article of him saying semen does have benefits he will lose $1000 in sales. They are correct it is unproven that semen is beneficial to skin but their products also have not been studied by an independent group for health benefits either. There is no magic cream to make a person younger  or eliminate wrinkles so they cannot guarantee even their own products.

[ML]

Billy, have you  tried rubbing your semen on your own face?
What were the results?

[mhr7]

Interesting that people can read the exact same thing and come up with different conclusions.  Where did you read that semen doesn't help you and is bad for the skin?  I read the part where sexually transmitted infections are bad.

Besides STIs, semen can irritate the skin and some women are allergic to some of the proteins in semen according to the articles.

Also -

There’s actually nothing in semen that has any benefits for your skin. If having someone come on your face is what you’re ~into~, that’s great and fine. But if you’re only getting showered with jizz because you think it’s good for you, think again. “There is nothing in semen that has demonstrable skin benefits,” Kirby said. “Anyone who says otherwise is either misinformed or purposefully misleading you. Or is just a moron.”

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a5885/coming-on-face-health-facts/

[msmob]

I don't like the piling on and bullying of TC in general.

He deserves everything he gets - what with his inability to listen and offering bollox 'advice' - that a newbie might think gospel

I will set our dog and cats on him - if he comes to Russia - and particularly Krasnodar Oblast  ))   

( you have seen the size of the dog, right?)

[jone]

An RW that I dated used to save the coffee grounds from our morning cup of coffee and every two or three weeks would use the grounds to exfoliate her skin.  I thought it pretty unusual until I tried it on my face.  It was interesting, although I think shaving does a fine job on its own.  She would spread it over her whole body (with my help) in the shower.  I have pictures.

[wallm]

I have pictures.

Show us...


P.S: I hope your Packers beat the Cowgirls so we can have a 2 game lead in the NFC East.

[jone]

LOL.  I actually tried to doll up the picture to blank out the face and private parts, but realized that she is too recognizable.  I remember that when I was taking the pictures, I was laughing so hard at the idea of coffee over her entire body.

As for the game in Dallas this week, I would be surprised if GB wins.  My daughter was at the game last week between the Rams and 'Boys.  Her best friend is a Cowboy Cheerleader.  Even so, she cheered for the Rams, because she knows the quarterback.

[wallm]

Her best friend is a Cowboy Cheerleader. 

That is the only likeable thing about the Cowgirls. Those cheerleaders are yummy.

Now, back to semen for facials.

[ML]

. . . but realized that she is too recognizable. 

A game show hostess or weather lady ?

[BillyB]

Besides STIs, semen can irritate the skin and some women are allergic to some of the proteins in semen according to the articles.

Also -

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a5885/coming-on-face-health-facts/

Semen isn't the problem. Problem is with  people in rare cases.  If those people are allergic to the ingredients in semen they will also be allergic to the very same ingredients that are in some beauty products. It's best not to get involved with a woman who is allergic or irritated by your semen.  She'll always have an excuse why she doesn't want sex

[mhr7]

Semen isn't the problem. Problem is with  people in rare cases.  If those people are allergic to the ingredients in semen they will also be allergic to the very same ingredients that are in some beauty products. It's best not to get involved with a woman who is allergic or irritated by your semen.  She'll always have an excuse why she doesn't want sex

Whatever you say Billy.

[GQBlues]

An RW that I dated used to save the coffee grounds from our morning cup of coffee and every two or three weeks would use the grounds to exfoliate her skin.  I thought it pretty unusual until I tried it on my face.  It was interesting, although I think shaving does a fine job on its own.  She would spread it over her whole body (with my help) in the shower.  I have pictures.

It takes less than two days before Tricoderma (green mold) begins to form on that lot. I reckon by two weeks she's literally covering herself in molds & spores in her attempt to 'cleanse' herself with it. I wouldn't be any where close to that crap even it was all over Erin Heatherton. Better if she just uses it for her dacha's garden, other than her mushroom field.

Loufas are just as bad as a skin exfoliating item because after 2 uses, it's nothing more than just a spongeful of bacteria. A smooth flat greystone only cost $3-5.00, and can easily be sanitized periodically, and does a much better job exfoliating the skin.

Amazing. two week old used coffee grounds for the body and semen for the face.

Oh wait, It's the MOB ferchrissakes. I almost forgot.

[JayH]

Billy, have you  tried rubbing your semen on your own face?
What were the results?

ML  --   he can't tell us--- he has gone blind in the collection process !!

[ML]

Yes my Father advised me to stop, lest I became blind.
I said I would just continue until I had to wear glasses.

[nano]

I was shoked to read this theme. Sorry for my old fashion but "winked Tanya" seems for me is just as prostitute. Don't want to offended topicstarter, but it's only in my opinion.
No one normal women wouldn't discuss with not entirely familia and trustful for her man the question about ginecological surgery "to have her tubes done". It's very seriouse question for women at her 30'th... And it's not normal to discuss it with man who not husband or and a man with special circumstance for her and whom she can entirely trust.
As I see Nightwish was shoked a bit too but as it discussed so pleased theme for him he was "hung his ears" and move on.

The surgery "to have her tubes done" is not the same for women as for man. For man it's just local medicine manipulation and he can be recovering quite fast after that but for women is abdominal surgery and she can't be recovered so soon after it. I waited that it would explanations how to care about her after that becouse recovering can take up two month and of course shoud be without any sex efford  but what I see: "and then she turned to me, and I got a long detailed explanation about how a woman works - with drawings , where all the things are, best positions to use during sex, asked if I do oral, and if so.. How?"

Can explane how "woman works": the sex issue with man should explain not a ginecologis but the doctor andrologist or urologist, or sexologist, or psychologist but not a ginecologist.

You just was invite to clinic ask to pay for her manipulation and show the spectacle (performance), how to sex trait "winked Tanya". And than just divide you money. Seems she is just prostitute that find her permanent wallet and can discuss with almost anfamilia man all things about her intimacy and privat life so openly "as at the palm" with so much ditals and "drawings".
It's was just perfomans to fishering the money.
The dungerouse of such sitation is misunderstanding where the normal behaviour of real women in relationships and such sexial trade "meat for sale" offers behaviour that more expressive and "hot" and in real just is a fake.
When real women would have a lot of complex and would hide her intimasy the "winked Tanya" explane all at once with "drawings". And than divide your money between her and her ginecologist.
It's can't be real to have sex after abdominal surgery. It's not real the ginecologist would explain for man sexual life, there are another specialist who have sufficient competence for it and so on, so on.

And about sperm mask is the same marasmus as urinatherapy but circle around sexual theme.
It's not normal beheviour for women at all not only FSUW. And not need to confuse the cultural features and normal women's behaviour in such questions with low immoral behavior of such "winked Tanyas", "winked Elenas", ""winked Anastasiyas" and so on.
ashame!

[Nightwish]

<snipped>
ashame!

I snipped most of the post, mostly because I didn't understand most of it I think

First of all, Tanya - and I really don't understand what you mean by "winked Tanya" but whatever - and me are in a committed relationship, she is really not a prostitute (and has never been as far as I know)


She is 36 years old and has a child already, and we have both decided we don't want more children, discussing making a "permanent birth control" was something she and I discussed together, not with any family or anyone else, well yes, she had discussed it with a couple of her friends..
I was willing to do it myself, but she didn't allow me to.

The procedure was done by going up the uterus and doing a blockage of the fallopian tubes, with local anesthetic. There is no surgery at all. It was done in a private clinic in Kiev, took about 30 minutes and we where sent home that same day. She had no complications at all, a little sore for a day or two but after that she felt ok again.

You did not offend me at all, but that all could have stayed unwritten because you didn't get a single thing right.

[nano]

Had a brief glance at blockage of the fallopian tubes, and see it can be on with full anesthetic in any method. And it take at least 6-8 hours at hospital with the most less invasive procedure. Anyway maybe at Kiev they work out something incredible new now for women, but anyway if you feel happy and fix with her it's great!

 "winked Tanya" means winking Tanya, it's ironically sentence. Something doubt that she was not lie for you. I hope I was mistaked.

[Boethius]

Occlusion is a method of fallopian tube blockage that does not require an anaesthetic, and normally is performed in a physician's office.

[kynrazor]

"winked Tanya" means winking Tanya, it's ironically sentence. Something doubt that she was not lie for you. I hope I was mistaked.

If I understand correctly, you are saying the typical respectable and good FSU women with moral intentions are usually shy and reserved and do not like to discuss sexual issues in places like the gynaecology clinic? And that the woman usually discusses such a surgery with her close family members first before doing it? And that Tanya may be having affairs with other men because she is now "sexually free" with no risk of pregnancy and no future baby to bind her to the relationship? Hmm.