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One of my pro-Russia firends on face book messaged me this:


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Where do these loony members come from?  We have multiple people supporting not only the insurgents in Ukraine, but Putin as well.  Some have never been to Ukraine and quote crap from the Internet without giving a thought to its relevance much less reliability.

And when Boethius and Mendy school them,  it goes right over their heads.   I mean they do not recognize they have been sodomized and then emasculated in public.

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Yes, your "friend" in Donetsk is speaking the complete truth just like all of your correspondents from Anastasia Dating. 


Maybe Hairy Boris from ADate also moonlights as a Kremlin troll... :D

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BTW, Darth, the communist party is not banned.  Yet.  There is a court case calling for it.  The legislation that proposes to ban the communist party also proposed to ban nazis. 
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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One of my pro-Russia firends on face book messaged me this:


Is that the ex-Marine from Texas?  If so, what is his story?

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Is that the ex-Marine from Texas?  If so, what is his story?

His Spanish is so bad, I can understand it.  He is a Commie and he saw a picture of a dead or dying woman with her legs blown off and it "touched his soul."  So he got on VK and joined the Army that Graham Philips fauns over.

As fit as he is, I think I can take him in single combat

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So my politics put me between Communism and Revolutionary Socialism. So I support Private Personal Property, Nationalization of Large Industry, Company-Unions for mid size business and Private enterprise on the small scale.  With a highly progressive Income and Wealth Tax.

In other words you want to be a Canadian. :P

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"Because without America there is no free world" ~ Canada Free Press

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Civilians Return to Debaltseve: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 96)

http://news.vice.com/video/civilians-return-to-debaltseve-russian-roulette-dispatch-96?utm_source=vicenewstwitter


I have found Vice Vice New to be better than most sources,, They cover both sides..

Well 3 of the 4

USA, Kiev and NR


I live 30 min from Canada, So I can understand why people might want to switch countries...

If the Tea Party Overthrew the government in D.C.  I would think upstate NY may ask Canada to let us join them....

I mean we eat Poutine, Maple syrup and have Hockey teams.... It would not be a bad trade.. Except for the Monarchy thing....

We need a government of action to fight for working families!
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Civilians Return to Debaltseve: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 96)

http://news.vice.com/video/civilians-return-to-debaltseve-russian-roulette-dispatch-96?utm_source=vicenewstwitter


I have found Vice Vice New to be better than most sources,, They cover both sides..

Well 3 of the 4

USA, Kiev and NR


I live 30 min from Canada, So I can understand why people might want to switch countries...

If the Tea Party Overthrew the government in D.C.  I would think upstate NY may ask Canada to let us join them....

I mean we eat Poutine, Maple syrup and have Hockey teams.... It would not be a bad trade.. Except for the Monarchy thing....

LOL

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If the Tea Party Overthrew the government in D.C.  I would think upstate NY may ask Canada to let us join them....

We have an election in the US rather than coup de etat, not that a stupid Commie would recognize the difference.

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Guess which are Americans and Which are Ukrainians and Which are Russians?


I guess it could be 100% fake,,, But this looks like Ukraine to me? I could be wrong... Maybe it is all some grand plan made up by Putin....

He has a lot of pictures, Their was a lot of Tanks and Ammo left behind in Debaltseve...
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We have an election in the US rather than coup de etat, not that a stupid Commie would recognize the difference.

I am also a member of my local Green party,, Lots of Socialists and those that lean further left in the GP...

Green Party = Socialist Party 

So I understand how elections work. In fact in NY we moved up a few Lines we are now 4th on the ballet..

Howie Hawkins ran under the GP, he is.was a member of the Socialist Party USA...

We may not be as popular as some other political parties but we are gaining ground.

This is not the 1950's McCarthyism is all but gone.
We need a government of action to fight for working families!
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Guess which are Americans and Which are Ukrainians and Which are Russians?


I guess it could be 100% fake,,, But this looks like Ukraine to me? I could be wrong... Maybe it is all some grand plan made up by Putin....

He has a lot of pictures, Their was a lot of Tanks and Ammo left behind in Debaltseve...

100% stupid

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Gratuitous insult removed by Anonmod.

They can't debate folks.  The can only insult.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2015, 10:08:44 PM by AnonMod »

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They can't debate folks.  The can only insult.


Learned it from you.
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Darf Vader, during my times in Eastern Ukraine I most certainly can tell who was who. To stay alive as a member of the press, you had better know. There are ways, but dress is one of them. I do not expect you to understand how, nor do I care to teach you.

Accents are another. Ukrainians who have not traveled a lot to Russia often treat Cyrillic letters a tad differently, and the emphasis on some words can be different. If you don't speak Russian (or Ukrainian) then you don't have a clue. Russian speakers, especially those from larger cities, are easy to spot by the Ukrainians and the Russian coal jockeys.

Then, there are the armbands and the insignia. The Donetsk and Luhansk militias have small differences in such things. The Russians mainly identify themselves by armbands since their insignia has been stripped.

The Russian soldiers are the easiest to spot: They have insignia removed from uniforms as if somehow that hides their identity. Not when they're driving the latest version of some new Russian toy never shared with Ukraine.

Communication traffic is different, too, especially the Russian boys who are on frequencies with their hq in Rostov.

Despite what you may have been led to believe, there are cliques. The Russian boys sent from places like Yekaterinburg or Khabarovsk don't really have a lot in common with older guys from Torez or Grabova.

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Darf Vader, during my times in Eastern Ukraine I most certainly can tell who was who. To stay alive as a member of the press, you had better know. There are ways, but dress is one of them. I do not expect you to understand how, nor do I care to teach you.

Accents are another. Ukrainians who have not traveled a lot to Russia often treat Cyrillic letters a tad differently, and the emphasis on some words can be different. If you don't speak Russian (or Ukrainian) then you don't have a clue. Russian speakers, especially those from larger cities, are easy to spot by the Ukrainians and the Russian coal jockeys.

Then, there are the armbands and the insignia. The Donetsk and Luhansk militias have small differences in such things. The Russians mainly identify themselves by armbands since their insignia has been stripped.

The Russian soldiers are the easiest to spot: They have insignia removed from uniforms as if somehow that hides their identity. Not when they're driving the latest version of some new Russian toy never shared with Ukraine.

Communication traffic is different, too, especially the Russian boys who are on frequencies with their hq in Rostov.

Despite what you may have been led to believe, there are cliques. The Russian boys sent from places like Yekaterinburg or Khabarovsk don't really have a lot in common with older guys from Torez or Grabova.


Fair enough,,, Than Pick out the American in that Photo I posted.... To Prove your Expertise....
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Have the subjects in your photos turn, so the insignia on their coats are visible.  Also, have them speak.  Mendy is correct, Russians speak differently, and a Ukrainian can always tell the difference from the accent.  A Russian can, as well.
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Learned it from you.

Another inaccuracy

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DV, you support people who shoot unarmed men in the back whose only offense is uttering two words, "I disagree."  Sooner or later, you will share the same fate.

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He is a Communist from Texas and a ex Marine... He has not seen any Russian Soldiers..



Maybe your internet friend is not dumb and supposed to say that to anonymous people he meets on the internet? Putin admitted that the unidentified little green men that invaded Crimea were Russian troops. He has even admitted to there being Russian troops in east Ukraine but they are on a holiday following their hearts. He also said he didn't send them there and they're not getting paid. A sample from the link below:


What Putin said: Russia has insisted before that any Russian soldiers found fighting in eastern Ukraine were volunteering on holiday, and not representing the army. Putin’s comments hewed to the same line, while he pointed to the authorities in Ukraine as the instigators of the conflict:


All those who are following their heart and are fulfilling their duty by voluntarily taking part in hostilities, including in southeast Ukraine, are not mercenaries, since they are not paid for what they do.



Russian troops aren't in Ukraine...Scratch that since there is overwhelming evidence and bodies are coming back home for burial. Now we tell the people and their mothers "They are in Ukraine but I didn't send them. Their hearts told them what to do."


Darth Vader. Look at the new weapons and uniforms on the men in the photo. Russian issue. Look at the millions of dollars of equipment their using. Rookies can't aim them 10 miles away and fire rockets in perfect unison without a veteran who train years on equipment. Missile systems and tanks, not in Ukraine's inventory, are all over east Ukraine. This forum has gone over the evidence a number of times. Don't be a gullible one. The evidence is so strong even Putin himself stopped denying Russian soldiers are in Ukraine. Putin's story now is that they went their on their own without his permission. Putin fooled you and their dead mothers once to give ya'll peace of mind. Will you let him fool you again with that story?
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They are their as Volunteers...  I will not disagree with that... that is 100% true..
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Volunteers who happen to operate sophisticated military machinery?


What about the mothers who say their sons, serving in the Russian army, were killed during "training exercises"?  Are they delusional?
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They are their as Volunteers...  I will not disagree with that... that is 100% true..


But didn't you lose faith that Putin is capable of telling the truth when it comes to the conflict in Ukraine? He initially said there were no troops in Crimea and then east Ukraine only to change his story. If thousand of Russian troops went AWOL to risk their lives in Ukraine without pay, he would know it from the beginning, not months after the conflict started. With the truth being out there, it's not going to stop Putin but he does face more resistance at home. He has ways to curb resistance. There is a law in place that says people can be jailed if they protest in public twice within a 180 period. Assassination may be another option.


Volunteers who happen to operate sophisticated military machinery?



Military machinery crossing the border into Ukraine followed their hearts too.
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Just as I guessed... the "friend" you quote is not a friend you have personally met.  He is merely one of your undetermined cyber acquaintances.   An ex-Marine from Texas fighting in a noble rebellion against oppressors from Kiev.   This is too rich. 

And you believe him.  Darth_Budda believes him. 

[I refreshed my memory by reading your 2011-2012 posts.]   


This is the same 26-yo Darth_Budda who came to RWD revealing he had a budding relationship with a UW he met through ....wait for it.....Anastasia Dating agency. 

 
And the venerable Jack, along with everyone else at RWD, wrote you were "being played."  BTW, Jack passed away sometime after his post, and is remembered as someone he really knew the FSU agency business.

Yes, your "friend" in Donetsk is speaking the complete truth just like all of your correspondents from Anastasia Dating. 

GROW UP!


DUDE!!!


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