So it really creates a catch 22 situation where a guy has to make out he is wealthy and good social status to get the girl while the girl is only interested in guys who she assumes are telling the truth as what she is given is all she has to go on, but in reality a long term relationship can't happen as it's all built on a pile of sticks and sooner or later it's doomed to come crashing down.
Trench
Put the apps away. Stop searching online.
Go out to the supermarket, chat up the cashier. Talk to the girl at the bus stop, hit the pubs and strike up conversations with women.
Learn the art of socialising and flirting.
It’s under these conditions that you are more likely to meet any future Mrs Trench, not by hiding away behind a screen and endlessly debating the demerits of online dating.
You’ve been on here how many years now?
Before you know it you’ll be a 50 something with no woman in your life and even more bitter and twisted than you already are.
Don’t read online drivel about how to find women, they are all around you. Get out and engage with them.
You might be surprised.
P. S. Starting another topic isn’t going to help you one jot.
I didn't really experience this in my contacts/visits with hundreds of FSU gals.
If anything, I underplayed my wealth and was quite frugal while visiting with gals there, especially with regard to the apartments I stayed in, took trams, metro, mini buses instead of taxis, and the way I dressed.
Now this was relative to my WMVM trips for first meetings.
Later when I met with some of them on trips to Turkey, Cyprus, Egypt, Crimea, etc., they knew I could at least afford such . . . but still never even came close to knowing my total wealth. And interestingly, none ever came close to inquiring about my total wealth or even my earnings.
You wouldn't like FSU dating today ML lol. I'm thinking you met Soviet Era ladies or at the latest girls who were brought up in the nineties where the Soviet culture and attitudes has still rolled over a little. The younger girls are nearly all pretty materialistic
You wouldn't like FSU dating today ML lol. I'm thinking you met Soviet Era ladies or at the latest girls who were brought up in the nineties where the Soviet culture and attitudes has still rolled over a little. The younger girls are nearly all pretty materialistic, they will ask for cabs, expect you to dress well, etc. Possibly a girl in her mid to late thirties or early forties today might not be too materialistic but below mid thirties most will be unless they are a bit ugly looking. I kind of notice the cut off line in this as the girls near my age are about the time when the Soviet Union finished. I would say around 39-40 ish at this present moment in time is about around the divide line for most women.
That's not necessarily a bad idea on the face of it. However, it's back to the same old not knowing if the girl is single till you really get to know her a bit plus the girl being interested and seeing you as a good enough catch. Though to be fair there isn't likely a perfect way so just going and chatting to girls just to find out about them and see if they take isn't a bad idea. I do remember the dating world before online dating though when I was in my twenties and there was a lit of the girls with the, "My boyfriend..." stuff that could regularly be heard so finding a single available girl was still a pretty difficult task. The real odd girls, fat girls, etc well hey were always free for the reason that spoke for itself lol.Trench, just stop.
Trench, just stop.
You’re back to making excuses.
The only obstacle to you dating is yourself.
You’re not ready for dating or relationships until you fix yourself and for that you need professional help.
Find a reputable shrink who specialises in psychosexual issues and deal with your problems first.
They cost too much Gaunty you'll have to do instead ;DWhaaat? You mean you can’t freeload on the NHS?
This article kind of sums of the situation with women today I feel:
http://www.standard.co.uk/insider/dating-app-marriages-divorce-more-likely-lucy-holden-b964545.html
Basically the girls in the west all look on dating apps and online dating for guys who are wealthy, good social status jobs. The reality is that the guys on there don't have that wealth nor good social status jobs, they are 'mediocre' as such apparently so they lie and exaggerate. They carefully curate profile to make themselves appeal to these girls that want wealthy guys with good jobs. The guys that don't do that as we see from the article don't interest the girls so they don't get any likes.
Tell me why do some penniless artists have girls?
Some men live in absolute squalor in India or Mexico
according to you none of these men have women.
You have posted a thousand times that no girls will like you because
you are average and penniless. You have posted a dozen times that
you are not willing to do anything worthwhile to change your lot in
life.
You are remodeling your house on a 10 year plan (you are only slightly
behind plan). This fast remodeling leaves you knackered after working
your part time job. You can't get a better job, they don't exist and you
wouldn't take them because the taxes would take away any benefit.
You want to become ripped like a gym rat and have instituted an exercise
regimen of one pushup per month, but you haven't started the program
yet
You are on a 10 year plan to learn Russian, but are currently on sabbatical
due to the being knackered by the fast paced part time job, remodeling,
and gym rat life you have been living.
Now you are trying to rationalize lying to women.
Mods,
Trench should have all his threads posted in the same place. When he starts a
new thread it should just be tossed in Trench's general thread. 100% of his threads
are about the same thing.
Why should this forum have 60 Trench threads? Why should it have 3?
Imagine a newbie coming here looking for insights and reading all of Trenchcoat's
crapola instead.
This is an article online about dating experience a wealthy guy had on Tinder, quite an interesting read really:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8484999/Why-no-decent-women-36-year-old-says-dating-far-worse-men.html
Looks like the women on Tinder and the like are generally just concerned with one thing, finding a wealthy guy. As this article shows they are more than willing to make out they are something they are but to get it. However their ineptitude and tacklessness give thalem away especially when they enquire about a guy's income, etc. I've been seeing a lot of profiles on Tinder where the girl has fake tan, eyelashes, fake white teeth fronts, etc and are trying to look wealthy with Chanel bags and neat dressing etc posing in some luxury style room. One showed a short video clip of herself pouting and kissing postures and smiling with her overly white fake teeth fronts. Honestly it was more of a turn off for me. I want to see a naturally looking attractive girl not some fake looking Barbie they much look the same as each other and I wouldn't really know who the girl as everything is fake, it was kind of eeirie in a way.
To be honest I'm kind of finding it a bit shocking the way dating has gone in this country. It looks like from this, from what I see on the likes of Tinder that dating is getting far worse not better than when I was doing online dating in the UK a good five years or so ago. I'm guessing the likes of Match, eHarmony, POF, etc are not any better can't see any reason why it would be. Looks like a lot of money hungry women on those sites without wealth of their own faking it up chasing men who they think have got money but many of which don't and are also faking it just so they can get sex out of the girl. Completely crazy!
Trench, I suggest you lower your expectations and join your local Bingo club.
You’re sure to meet the love of your life there. The future Mrs Trench is just waiting for her number to be called
Lol, yes I would probably have more luck there, I'm glad now you can see my problem with English women.Actually, I don’t see there being a problem.
. . . the fsuw or international dating scene which is a far more risky, expensive and volatile place for the inexperienced to date.
I didn't find the FSUW dating scene to be risky or volatile.
Expensive only due to the airline flights and apartment rentals aspect.
Less expensive for those of you in UK or continental Europe.
Wife has a cousin in Ireland. He and his family regularly fly to Ukraine for 10-20 euro.
...Overall I would say the dating environment in Ukraine is pretty nice, much nicer than compared to the UK. A woman is a woman there and a man is a man none of this not sure the place of either upon dating like here. Women here tend to have very lofty outlook as to what they want, in Ukraine less so...
There are obviously more scammers in the FSU dating scene and possibly that is what Gaunty is alluring too. For guys who are a but on the ball, done their research and have some experience it's often not a problem.
Overall I would say the dating environment in Ukraine is pretty nice, much nicer than compared to the UK. A woman is a woman there and a man is a man none of this not sure the place of either upon dating like here.
The problem, I think, with you, is that you haven’t cut your teeth with local women and want to jump straight into the fsuw or international dating scene which is a far more risky, expensive and volatile place for the inexperienced to date.
No. He is alluding to the fact that marriage to a foreigner is far more complicated. It really is a leap of faith.
And yes basically I'm saying get your shit together! Asap!
What's wrong with a woman expressing that is what she'd like to see in a man?
Perhaps a bit more crudely relayed than I'd prefer,but the
sentiment is absolutely valid.
Get your baggage unloaded and behind you ,and you'll have your shit together enough for most women..
You'll be way ahead of the other TCS that havnt yet..
You do see that's what the women you mentioned are frustrated about right?
The lack of emotional maturity as far as relationships in most of the men they have met so far,has exasperated them.
They are painting you the picture that the competition bar is low.
I can assure you they are not talking generally about money.
Doesn't mean they are catches themselves, but you'd need to.meet them to find that out wouldnt.you?
Get out there!
:)
The competitions is so pathetic those women are almost begging for an underemployed TC (sans emotional mental baggage)
No. He is alluding to the fact that marriage to a foreigner is far more complicated. It really is a leap of faith.
So where does that leave you?
They cost too much Gaunty you'll have to do instead ;D
I didn't find the FSUW dating scene to be risky or volatile.I think you didn’t read between the lines.
Expensive only due to the airline flights and apartment rentals aspect.
Less expensive for those of you in UK or continental Europe.
Wife has a cousin in Ireland. He and his family regularly fly to Ukraine for 10-20 euro.
For both parties :)
but I'm guessing most women have some element of the material things they like to see in a guy.
Oh man . . . you are going to be killed here now !!!
As well he should be.
What normal 40 plus year old man posts a photo of a woman so he can "check out the competition"? That's the stuff of high schoolers, with all their adolescent angst. It's not the actions of a mentally healthy adult.
I won't even get into the breach of privacy about the girlfriend. He may have committed a crime with that one. John would likely know.
Certainly, there has been a breach of personal data of the girl whose photo he used.
There could also be a criminal offence of setting up a false social media account or creation of a false profile, dependent on circumstances whether it would meet the threshold for a criminal prosecution.
As well he should be.
What normal 40 plus year old man posts a photo of a woman so he can "check out the competition"? That's the stuff of high schoolers, with all their adolescent angst. It's not the actions of a mentally healthy adult.
Well as a matter of interest I decided to take my profile down of Tinder yesterday and instead put up a female profile to see what types of men are on there, the competition ;)
For this task I chose pics of Kherson girl. Well I knew she was pretty but even I was surprised that within the hour she had over 100 likes lol. Hmmnn... I don't think I would last very long if I had brought her back to the UK! No doubt she is eeking out an existence in Ukraine oblivious to how in demand she would be if she was in the UK just a three hour plane journey away :-\
Anyhow, yeah results were interesting. I scrolled through a fair few guys photos, clicking on nope to each profile so as to not mislead the guys. Very few of the guy making out he is wealthy, only one of some guy in a tux's that looked like he went to Eton or something. The big thing guys seem to play on there is physique, loads of naked torso shots of those guys that are worked out which seems to be about at least half of the guys on there. My guess is that guys like that go on there and find it's an easy way to get likes from women, they go out and meet them, have sex then fancy tasting other girls for sex, they can get one so they can get many by the same method. The girls of course ignore the other guys and get suckered in by the torso pics and just hope each time it will lead to a LTR which of course it never does as the guys want to try other women that come up. The fake stuff all the girls use probably doesn't help it just makes them difficult to identify with if anything almost generic plastic Barbie doll like. The rest of the guys with the big standard pics I don't reckon get any joy, most of them will get precious little decent women, the odd fatty or ugly girl who will be a complete turn off to most guys, etc
So a bit if an eye opener but worth seeing what the score really is on there. I'll delete the profile soon. Can't really do the torso thing myself in there as not quite there as yet but I'm working on it ;)
Interesting story about your buddy and thanks for expanding my vocabulary with 'munters'.
I've never used Tinder..in fact i've never used any of the online UK dating sites.
However,i,know someone who does and he tells me he has sex with three or four different women a week from that site. :o
He's in his forties and very average looking..slightly tubby.
When he told me he laughed at the look of astonishment on my face and said "You wouldn't go near any of them..they're all munters i can't wait to get away from after we've f....d "
He has a very low opinion of women after his marriage broke up due to him not being able to go on holiday with his wife and daughter to the Caribbean as he'd just been granted the licence for a BMW dealership and had to remain at home to set it up.
He told his wife and daughter to go on holiday anyway,as he'd already paid for it,and whilst there they both had sex with black tour guides.
So for him women are just a means to an end now.
So it's coming together now I feel.
Do you know how he figured out his wife was banging the locals in the Caribbean?
but I'm working on it ;)
I've never used Tinder..in fact i've never used any of the online UK dating sites.
However,i,know someone who does and he tells me he has sex with three or four different women a week from that site. :o
He's in his forties and very average looking..slightly tubby.
When he told me he laughed at the look of astonishment on my face and said "You wouldn't go near any of them..they're all munters i can't wait to get away from after we've f....d "
He has a very low opinion of women after his marriage broke up due to him not being able to go on holiday with his wife and daughter to the Caribbean as he'd just been granted the licence for a BMW dealership and had to remain at home to set it up.
He told his wife and daughter to go on holiday anyway,as he'd already paid for it,and whilst there they both had sex with black tour guides.
So for him women are just a means to an end now.
Wow. He sends very emotionally healthy /s.
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He told his wife and daughter to go on holiday anyway,as he'd already paid for it,and whilst there they both had sex with black tour guides.
Something missing or a typo here ?
Interesting story about your buddy and thanks for expanding my vocabulary with 'munters'.
It seems your buddy has given up in a way. Do you know how he figured out his wife was banging the locals in the Caribbean?
Fathertime!
It's common sense, no point being part of it all if you can't see how it all operates. Everyone should be able to see what they are getting into. There are hairy Boris's making fake profiles of girls in the FSU all the time and ripping guys off in doing so yet nothing is done about them. Mine was merely out of interest to to see how it all worked, I interacted with no one through the profile and no harm was done.
You don't know who else took the girl's photo. But even putting that aside, what, exactly, did you "learn"? You could just as easily have looked at profiles without creating a fake one. Moreover, it is irrelevant to who you are and what you seek. Were you some pimply faced 15 year old, I could understand this. But you are supposed to be a grown up.
I've wondered about that myself,but i won't ask him about such a touchy subject.
If he ever volunteers the info i'll let you know.
They're not tour guides. Rent a Rusta had been going on for a long time now. White women, especially British/Canadian/American women, flock the island paradise to get sexed up ala jungle fever.
That's bs Gaunty, a criminal offence is only committed if the fake profile is set up for the purpose of abuse which of course it has not:
http://www.cybersmile.org/news/uk-plans-to-prosecute-fake-online-profile-abusers
The girl is not a UK citizen and the photos are public domain already. In any case the profile has now been taken down.
Can only think they confessed all when they got back. Pretty nasty thing they did can imagine that the poor guy felt rwal cut up about it. If you think of all those years he was with his wife and bringing up his daughter then they go off and do that despicable act. Meanwhile he passed up the chance of the holiday to focus on providing a good financial future for the family only to have it all torn apart from the horrible thing they did.
Can only guess at the reason they did it, fed up of being with him, wife seeing she can take him for half of his wealth and wanting a way he'll want to divorce her, or perhaps just plain wh*res.
Knew a guy once whose wife was having sex with another guy while he was doing nightwork. He told me about it, seemed to really have affected the poor guy deeply. He volunteered the information I didn't ask and kept going over it, I didn't ask questions it didn't seem the thing to do. Anyhow he split up with his wife and she went off with their kid. Kind of a terrible to see people inflicting so much hurt and damage on the lives of people they got with but considered them so little in doing it.
I’d suggest that your intent was to deceive and as we know already, the entire profile was false. So I would certainly infer that an offence has been committed.
The fact that she is not a UK citizen is irrelevant, as is whether the photos were in the public domain or not. Did she give you permission to use them in that fashion?
By the way, there is other legislation in place by which one can deem an offence to have been committed, not just on online abuse.
You think Google is your friend but clicking on the first link that appears to suit your perceived circumstances doesn’t really work.
Whether it would meet the threshold for charges to be brought is a matter for the CPS.
Your remodel is completely finished? Yes or No?
How many days per week do you work out? How much time for each work out?
What do you do?
Well then from the CPS own webpage:
8. The act of setting up a false social networking account or website, or the creation of a false or offensive profile or alias could amount to a criminal offence, depending on the circumstance For example:
The former estranged partner of a victim creates a profile of the victim on a Facebook page, to attack the character of the victim, and the profile includes material that is grossly offensive, false, menacing or obscene.
A "photoshopped" (digitally edited) image of a person is created and posted on a social media platform. Although many photoshopped images are humorous and inoffensive, others are disturbing or sinister, such as the merging of a person's face with the nude body of another to create obscene images, which may be accompanied by offensive comment.
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/social-media-guidelines-prosecuting-cases-involving-communications-sent-social-media
So we're not talking about creating a fake profile in general but one where it has been created to cause someone harm or malicious intent. End of the day half the country probably has fake profiles or have done so. Do you think loads of others haven't done so who have used Tinder? It's common sense to get the lowdown and find out the score if you're not getting any joy on it. That's why there are so many profiles of the same type in Tinder, guys find out that other guys are putting up certain type of pics and they follow suit on what they see as likely working. Do you really think the Police want to know about some fake dating profile? They've got a lot of serious stuff to deal with not a load of tittle tattle over some silky profile on the internet. Unless someone is using it against someone else to cause them some form of harm in an aggressive manner then no they have other things to deal with. They know that sort of rubbish goes on all the time it's nothing they've got time for.
If someone puts their pics out in the public domain then the public are already exposed to them. They can be copied potentially by millions of people, saved, stored, etc. People stick their photos on social media and dating sites knowing that all across the world then have access to those pics so they have given up any right to those pics being private in posting them up. It's what Tinder is all about people posting photos up off themselves. Once there anyone can copy send onto their mate, etc, etc. You voluntarily accept that you lose control of it once posted up there.
In the UK it is perfectly legal to take a photo of a stranger down the street even if you so wanted.
For many of you...after an arduous 6 years, none still have gotten the clue that the subject of your scorn is beyond help. Hardly a newbie in the pursuit of the MOB, but rather a misguided basement critter who had obviously chosen to live the life he chose - +40 years running.I think we all know, GQ. You have to admit though. Where would you go for an evenings entertainment if it weren’t for our in house tutti frutti?
Pointless is an extreme understatement.Have to agree with you.
It tells me a lot. It tells me how in demand a hot girl is.
It tells me the sort of stuff girls go for on such a site. CB friend is right that the girls on there are kind of dubious, a lot look like Katie Price lookalikes, a lot of fake eyelashes, dyed hair, fake tans, overly pouty, etc. To be honest it's not a great look and a lot are likely Munters with a lot of ott makeup job. Even still it was kind of interesting how many guys had a gym bod on there complete with six pack abs, etc. No doubt it works for them but just so many profiles like it, about half I would say it was almost like a gym hang out app, think a disproportionate number of guys that work out probably use the app as no way do I think it's reflective of most guys in the UK. Probably go there for a quick hook up as they know they will pick up girls of the back of their gym bod pics.
If someone puts their pics out in the public domain then the public are already exposed to them. They can be copied potentially by millions of people, saved, stored, etc. People stick their photos on social media and dating sites knowing that all across the world then have access to those pics so they have given up any right to those pics being private in posting them up. It's what Tinder is all about people posting photos up off themselves. Once there anyone can copy send onto their mate, etc, etc. You voluntarily accept that you lose control of it once posted up there.
In the UK it is perfectly legal to take a photo of a stranger down the street even if you so wanted.
I used to think back in the days when the whole MOB just got started, and every participants were so amped about the experience, every single one so badly wanted to share their own personal experiences. We were all part of the Band of the 'Attaboy Brotherhood'! There wasn't a newbie that wandered about that wasn't met with such encouragement, assistance and guidance ensuring that they too, are able to share in the wondrous experience of the MOB. No one can hardly wait until these newbies themselves get knighted into the brotherhood.
Then the devil within started to rear its ugly heads. It became evident each one of us 'men' really are wired differently. For many, the brotherhood was instrumental for the suffering of many unsuspecting FSUWs who were hitched onward to their personal nightmares with a quickening.
Not all good intentions result in positive, happy endings. Be always wary.
No matter how much you try to obviate the seriousness of your actions it doesn’t change the fact that you have engaged in deception.
Saying, oh but others do it too, is no defence.
Downplaying it by saying the police won’t want to know about fake profiles doesn’t in any way detract from the fact you have been deceptive.
Like I said, you intended to deceive. Fact.
Y OU H A V E B E E N D E C E P T I V E
Like I said, if you were reported, It would be down to CPS to gauge intent and charge or not.
Stop the presses! Men want to date and bed "hot" women. Wow. I can certainly understand why you would set up a profile to determine that men want to date attractive women. How could anyone have discerened that on their own?
Again, how could anyone have ever known that women are equally attracted to attractive men? You really made groundbreaking strides. :rolleyes:
Watched an episode of FBI - International last night.
A pretty good series.
Action centered on Prague with the killing of an AM who was filming pornography.
The female Czech police lady assisting the FBI said Prague was the world center of porno filming because of 1) relaxed attitudes and 2) a plethora of willing beautiful women.
I lost 0.6 percent of my body fat ratio this week and know that I can sustain it week on week at about the same rate of fall until I get down to around 15 percent body fat which should be around what I need for an athletic type of body. It will take a few weeks but my new diet is starting to work well and I have confidence in it :)
Work out I do whenever I have a spare moment, it is going fine and steady progress is being made. I'll progress with this as the weeks continue.
The remodel, well the extension is nearly done, walls up and flat roof just about on, still windows and door to put in. It took my all Summer working king weekends but I reckon I have probably saved about £20 - £25k by the time it's all done. Then just a kitchen & bathroom to install and finishing off a few bits inside and it's done :)
It's been a lot longer than expected and more of an ordeal than hoped for but it's starting to shape up nicely and should be good when all done. So hopefully not much longer and should be able to move forward from there and get more money in etc.
Yeah but who thought the intensity of guts after a hot girl would be so high and think about it she would be living the high life here spoilt for choice over guys if, if she was not in Kherson, a backwater Ukrainian dumpsk with only a very tiny few wealthy guys and most others dirt poor in a not overly attractive environment unless the natural environment scenery turn you on. Kind of amusing that a girl can be real pretty but not be living the high life. And me an everyday looking guy doing ok in a good western country.
Guys, yes I suppose having a gym bod would kind of appeal, it's not always easy to see why girls get turned on by what as a guy. Don't worry Boe, I'm on my way to that gym bod this time I think! :D
You didn't answer my questions.
So in other words, the remodel is not finished. You aren't working out regularly
and not studying Russian. You have decided to waste your time trying to find out
if women prefer attractive men over non attractive men.
I knew a guy named Bart that flunked out of college, he just hung around the
TV room in the dorm and never went to class or did his homework.
I also know a guy from Lucky Lovers site from Croydon and he was chatting on a
public chat that I frequented and there was a tall pretty girl that was enamored
with him. He never had two coins in his pocket so he never visited her. A guy from
the forums contacted her (he was ugly and slightly over weight) but he got on a
plane and visited her and they have been married for 9 years now.
You are determined to be either the Croydon guy or Bart.
Bill this isn't the US, most stuff here has to be masonry build due to the weather, etc. Builds take time to put up if done by just one guy.
I can't get muscles or lose weight as quick as I can think about it.
For many of you...after an arduous 6 years, none still have gotten the clue that the subject of your scorn is beyond help. Hardly a newbie in the pursuit of the MOB, but rather a misguided basement critter who had obviously chosen to live the life he chose - +40 years running.
Pointless is an extreme understatement.
One presumes the daughter was an adult and free to do as she chose?
In any case, we don’t know about their lives or relationship or what went on in that family so pointless commenting the way you do as you only see things through the prism of your warped misconceptions about women and relationships.
Bill this isn't the US, most stuff here has to be masonry build due to the weather, etc. Builds take time to put up if done by just one guy. Getting more people in costs money, a lot of money. There are not many well paying jobs here in comparison to the US certainly anything over the $100k or $200k range would be a hard find and hard to get likely by anyone in the know, the right connections etc.
So nothing unfortunately happens fast. I can build a small 3m by 4m cavity wall extension as quick as I can think about it. I can't get muscles or lose weight as quick as I can think about it. Both of these take time, more time than I would like them to take. I'm certainly not lounging around, can I do more, not really, there isn't really any time to do anything more. It will come but it will take time. I've also got to chose a routine that suits me, though we can get milder winters in the UK there not the sort thing where many people would fancy going out jogging or running or cycling even. It can be real unpleasant doing any of those things. So it's got to be a routine that moves things forward but is sustainable for me, otherwise at best it would be a quick result eon and then lost. Things are happening, I reckoning in about 3 months or so I will have a bit of a gym bod going which I should be able to keep up. About the same time frame the house will be pretty much finished and will be able to rent some rooms out. That will free me up a lot which means I will be able to develop some quality time to learning Russian beyond the basic phrasebook stuff I know at present. So stuff is happening but not in an instant as otherwise everyone would be doing it.
I lost 0.6 percent of my body fat ratio this week and know that I can sustain it week on week at about the same rate of fall until I get down to around 15 percent body fat which should be around what I need for an athletic type of body. It will take a few weeks but my new diet is starting to work well and I have confidence in it :)
Work out I do whenever I have a spare moment, it is going fine and steady progress is being made. I'll progress with this as the weeks continue.
You’ve been parroting the same line these past umpteen years.
That tells us something. Bill nailed it.
This is all whitewash.
The actuality of it all is your expectation that ‘hot girls’ from impoverished countries from the FSU should be tripping over themselves to get a look in as the future Mrs of an average looking, poor as Donald Duck, basement dwelling misogynist like you.
You seem to have enough problems in your own life. Why do you spend so much time speculating on how others live theirs?
You haven't learned a thing in six years posting here, so I doubt your assertion.
I think this again demonstrates that you seem to have many issues which are seen among teens. You haven't grown to maturity. Most women will see that with time, and no matter who you choose, the result will be a net negative for you.
I know a lot of men who don't have "gym bodies" who do not lack female companionship. I know shy men who are married. But that's not what I am referring to. The fact you defaulted to this is really the issue. You are middle aged. You are not young. Why are you comparing yourself to anyone? How is what people tell, or don't tell women to whom you have no attraction and won't date, relevant? Haven't you figured out that all that matters in this equation is you? No, obviously you haven't, and nothing I post is going to change that.
You are being told here what to improve because you are constantly complaining about the lack of women. But the improvements suggested are not to your physical form. It's to your attitudes, your demeanour, and, likely, the essence of who you are - online, presenting as a psychologically damaged misogynist.
I suggest you seek counselling. Without it, the chance of you finding a mate, particularly one from the FSU, is negligible. You may be able to find someone short term to marry you, but I guarantee, if you are as presented here, she won't stick around. That is far harsher than I wish it to sound, but I am not going to sugarcoat facts.
I know a lot of men who don't have "gym bodies" . . .
But you can't have true intimacy with a partner if they don't know you. Even if you hide who you are, it comes out over time.
The thing is on this topic is that I hear a lot of stuff about women complaining that guys aren't serious, they just want sex or won't commit. I was reading an article just this morning online about a woman complaining about such of three different men she had dated online, one just wanted sex, the other two didn't want to commit to an LTR. Why? From what I have learned once a guy knows he can get one or a few half decent women up he then knows that he has something they find admirable so he can get many up. There are literally loads of guys out there that are very everyday but nothing special but women turn them down because if it, their not all that bad but most women out there only look at those guys that have something admirable but don't realise that those guys will 9 times out of 10 or more will use that thing they find admirable to hook many other women. They become like kids in a candy store and can't help themselves. The women though only think that those guys are acceptable to them but then can't seem to fathom why they won't commit lol. Most of the time the women themselves aren't all that but somehow seem to think they are due a better guy than they are as a woman themself.All I hear is you complaining about how hard done by you are, what with all the fat wh***sh gold digging women out there, just aching to get their hands on your ‘wealth’.
That's true, it's probably more of my problem if anything. Though I think it's more typical for most English people to put stuff to the side and to not want to know. A few people are of course very vocal, i.e if they are part of a far right group. Many others may have sympathies for the far right, or whatever issue they agree with but will keep it largely hidden. For example someone may not be keen on illegal immigrants or a particular ethnic group but if at work will deal with them politely and not make it an issue. I get the impression in the US it can often be different that if anything people throw around their differences and personal opinions moreso in relationships, that it kind of adds to the interest and makes things more exciting. I guess English people go more in for harmony and would rather not know unless they happened to be minded likewise.Good god, man. Any shrink reading this hodge podge is going to be rubbing his hands in glee.
Some stuff will probably come out over time but usually I think most English people just avoid openly disagreeing so as to avoid falling outs, arguments and bad feeling. It's a difficult one on the one hand it can make things work on the other you're not exactly matched up with someone who thinks alike in attitude & values. That second one can be an issue as it can cut down on the amount of people who are suitable if you're looking for someone much like you are in outlook, though it does filter out the rest I guess. I think even in terms of holding back on stuff it can be relatively easy to guess who's attitude/values is something that would grate after a while. I for example would find it difficult to stomach a migrant hugger long term or someone who seems to bandwagon on the moral outcry of the moment, I don't have any time for that.
I'll continue...You have an unhealthy obsession with other guys on dating sites.
Here is an interesting story of recent:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/16691440/date-called-me-name-before-met-text-meant-mate/amp/
It kind of tells us how a lot of these guys on Tinder that women go for feel about the women. The girl in this article doesn't seem to get it that although he probably partly meant it as a laugh it was also the way he saw her and no doubt all the other girl he gets with. In refering to her as another c*nt in saying 'another' kind of means that he has been with other girls he sees as just c*nts also. That I would think is what a lot of girls on Tinder and the like don't get in going for the choice of guys that they do the guys just see them as c*nts to get off with. Those guys aren't all interested in them for any other reason least not a LTR. The girls on there just want to date up going for those gym bod guys etc and not date across going for guys like they are. Hence they always end up getting used as c*nts by these guys, complain that the guys just want sex but few seem to clue in how they are seen by them in getting with them.
You have an unhealthy obsession with other guys on dating sites.
How about you focus on how you’re going to get yourself a date and stop the blame game.
If the situation was as you describe it, no one would be in LTRs or getting married.
As far as I can see, there seem to be plenty of couples getting hitched.
They seem to be getting through the dating maze. Why don’t you?
You have an unhealthy obsession with other guys on dating forum sites ;D
I don't think there are nearly as many people getting married or in LTR's as there used to be.
I'm merely letting the guys know the extent of the problem these days.On every post you parrot the same stuff. That’s not you ‘merely letting the guys know’ nor is pretending to be a woman on Tinder to attract Male attention.
It's not a problem specific to me many guys are coming across the same problem
but yes I do need to get back to the dating game so will leave this thread at that and get back messaging on FSU dating sites I think, there is just not enough go in western dating sites.Talk is cheap, as is sitting in your basement hunched over your keyboard drooling over the hot wimmin that inhabit your screen and fantasies.