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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1200 on: January 10, 2020, 04:42:57 PM »
It's great to hear stories with a happy ending.
Lol the exact word is ecstatic

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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1201 on: January 10, 2020, 04:57:59 PM »
So finally I just come back with my date with HB9.

I did all like a train launched at 100 MPH with her.

I wrote to her to say hello in the beginning of the week.I call her yesterday to tell her the schedule.
I booked the restaurant yesterday.And finally sent a SMS summing all and offering a door if she finally decide to not come. 

I prepared myself before gotting one hour of sleep after the previous crazy night.
When I woke up I saw the SMS of HB9, 45 minutes before our rendez vous.

CANCELLED to make it short. No big deal, already ready for all possibilities.

So I went downstairs because I had something to do in the garage and when back two minutes later I noticed an incoming call of HB9 that I didn't ring because I hadn't remove the silent mode.
Strange, but in one way that call showed that she was less scatterbrained than her sms let believe.
So I called her back, no answer. I let it go.She called me again two minutes later, and we finally could talk to each other after 10 days of interval.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 05:00:14 PM by Patagonie »
"Je glissais through the paper wall, an angel in the hand, s taboy. I lay on the floor, surgi des chants de Maldoror, je mix l'intégrale de mes nuits de crystal, i belong to the festival.

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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1202 on: January 10, 2020, 05:09:09 PM »
She told me that she was exhausted of her whole week but she worried about our appointment. She asked me when the restaurant was waiting us.
And by herself told me that she will go directly there a little later, she needed to have a shower first. And after she will leave the restaurant to go in the big city
Finally she asked me the adress of the restaurant.

I agreed to send her the adress of the restaurant, which i did 15 minutes later.
So as I have guessed with some anticipation, my rendez vous was loosing some consistancy.
We will not travelled in the same car and the appointment will be limited to the restaurant.
So impossible to escalate the ladder because no multiple location movment

But I was also happy to see her and to be able to get back my bed not to late.
"Je glissais through the paper wall, an angel in the hand, s taboy. I lay on the floor, surgi des chants de Maldoror, je mix l'intégrale de mes nuits de crystal, i belong to the festival.

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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1203 on: January 10, 2020, 05:32:29 PM »
So finally we have what Pat believes about HB9 and what her life is really is.
Quite interesting, that is named reality distorsion.

Pat believed that she was not really interested to meet and used an easy excuse to not come
In fact she has to drive all the day for her job, her job is quite physical, she has to manage two eventually three kids at home when they are not with the fatherShe has some health problems from one year, balance disorder and problems in the ears. Something that I consider personnaly possible as a consequence of a tumor, that's quite frightening.
                         
Pat was believing that she was a party girl, and that she likes to dance very usually (we have many people who love to dance in my region and who are totally passioned), so I was believing that she will go to join some people to party after the restaurant
She don't like to go out, not so much, don't like to stay up late and she is just joining her family tonight to jump in a bed and sleep as much as possible because she usually sleeps 5/6 hours during the week but needs more 8/10 hours saturday sunday. She likes, most of the time spends time at home.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 11:10:04 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1204 on: January 10, 2020, 05:49:55 PM »
So you have this amazing brunette in front of you, and she is totally out of energy.
There is anything really you can do.
Just listen her, entertain her, provide her a good time, a good meal, pour her drink.
Try to understand her daily life, full of real pressures.
Make this two hours and half the most comfortable for her.
Make the end of the diner a little shorter so she can go to sleep asap.

Put gently and lightly your hand on her shoulder when you get out of the restaurant.
Escort her to her car on this desert parking.
Turning your head largely to show that you don't try to take advantage of her (trying to force her for a kiss) and hug her few seconds with tenderness and let set her free.

And finally back at home you write to HB9 :
I hope that you have got back safely to your place. I am conscious of the honor that you gave to me tonight considering your very low level of energy. We learn to know each other, I appreciate. I am very concerned that you feel good. Patagonie

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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1205 on: January 10, 2020, 07:49:30 PM »
HB9 gal.  Sounds interesting yet complicated.

So she has 2 or 3 children of her own; is there a question about how many ?
Perhaps 2 and a half.

I remember once meeting a gal who took bus in from out of town.
We had a good exchange of messages and her profile mentioned a 17 year old son, which was OK with me.
When with me she received many messages from a son.
It was revealed that he was 10 and the second son.
When I mentioned that her profile only indicated the 17 year old; she replied that she had 'forgotten' about the 10 year old.
A beautiful woman is pleasant to look at, but it is easier to live with a pleasant acting one.

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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1206 on: January 10, 2020, 11:50:43 PM »
HB9 gal.  Sounds interesting yet complicated.

So she has 2 or 3 children of her own; is there a question about how many ?
Perhaps 2 and a half.

I remember once meeting a gal who took bus in from out of town.
We had a good exchange of messages and her profile mentioned a 17 year old son, which was OK with me.
When with me she received many messages from a son.
It was revealed that he was 10 and the second son.
When I mentioned that her profile only indicated the 17 year old; she replied that she had 'forgotten' about the 10 year old.
You nailed it ML.

I remember that she talked to me of her daughter of 18, her son of 8 (if I remember correctly) and that's all during the happy new year.
But now the story is clearly that there is a third child, and this one seems to be 2 or 3.
 
So it changes some perspectives as you can guess.
With time I have realized that women try to show you a certain way of life, omitting clearly to tell you a lot of things, some or many could be challenging a future (I suppose that many men do the same of course).
 
So HB9 has two main problems. she has suffered from jobs unskilled because she never had a profession (knowing her age she had her daughter around 16/17 which screws up a little bit your chances to have one),And she manages three childs, one very young, and considering the age of the last kid and the time she split with the father, I would be not surprised if she decided to have this one against the opinion of the man.
It's clear that with this type of woman it's time for me to run for a vasectomy.
 
So what is fascinating is to listen people and as they give you more details you can understand what is their situation.
I have now a clear understanding of her financial situation. And she performs not so bad but I think that half or almost half of her money comes from the state and alimony given by fathers. So she is getting back a wage among the lowest of the market and this why she would try to become a teacher for the state.
 
I have no judgment about all of this, this is her personal story, I am quite admirative of how she seems to manage all, and I didn't hear her complaining.
Now the fact that she finally don't like to go out, has three kids, and spends a lot of time doing all the necessary basic stuff explains that she has some problem to succeed her sentimental life.


"Je glissais through the paper wall, an angel in the hand, s taboy. I lay on the floor, surgi des chants de Maldoror, je mix l'intégrale de mes nuits de crystal, i belong to the festival.

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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1207 on: January 12, 2020, 02:47:18 AM »
My transparent sensibilities are first of all the fruit of your personal morale judgment

Why do you bring all the responsability on the man?

I already previously wrote that, for various reasons, married women are not my target usually, not happened during 25 years to be frank.
No, I did not pass moral judgment. I stated your morality is transparent.

I have a friend that is sleeping with three different women, including a married woman. I don't judge him, but he discloses this to all three women. So even though he has an adulteress as you do, his morals are different to yours.

I judge neither man, as I have no interest. But your actions represent your values.


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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1208 on: January 13, 2020, 09:17:05 AM »
We have daily contact with Lady of Kiev and had a nice video chat saturday night. 
We start to go deeper in the connection and opening our dialogue and level of communication.
We work both on it, openly and slowly.
As a focal point we have a meeting in March normally. Her birthday should come around and I want to make her a surprise.
Lately I have to go to Ukraine in april normally.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2020, 03:23:17 PM by Patagonie »
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« Reply #1209 on: January 13, 2020, 09:23:18 AM »
HB9 have stayed silent since friday night.

That's not a good sign even if circumstances are very harsh for her.
Most of all I dislike the fact that she not even said thank for the diner.
I don't care if she is a hot baby, if she could be Angelina Jolie or whoever.
But just say the word "thank" is a minimum, just when leaving the restaurant or one or two days after in a SMS.
 
 
We got here
a cold feet, Or buyer remorse (from her)
Or wrong tag on the product
or personal burn out.
I don't know yet exactly what is about 
 
 but I am not gonna to pursue her too much even if I have a lot of time and can play it easy on the calendar.
 
« Last Edit: January 13, 2020, 03:22:15 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1210 on: January 13, 2020, 01:41:50 PM »
So we saw with Lady of Kiev two movies in russian, subtitles in french for me
I left her five days ago.
 
I cannot hide to you that I was nuts during five days in russian with her and we used most of the time our personal translators on our smartphones.
That was quite a shame for me but as the relationship was going ahead we needed more accurate communication. 
And I don't know why, but with this woman I don't understand a lot of things.
 I understand really less with her than others FSU women in general.
She maybe has the chic to use some sophisticated words that of course are not in my limitary vocabulary. 
 And moreover I think that her head is boiling of a million of ideas and things she wants to tell me, but we sometimes get nuts. At the end I think she more mad than me about it. 
 
Remember she don't speak any english nor french.
But willing to learn english.   
   
Don't worry I am confident that all is fine at the end, I have some training with FSU women who don't speak any common languages.
Each time I am lost in her words I fix with all my love her beautiful blue eyes hi svaya oulibka
Inevitably she asked me : ti panimaesch?
I answer da
And depending of how I say da she knows that I had got shit, or not enough to get all the sentence.
So she starts to open her smartphone and you see in the cold city two bystanders typing furiously on their smartphones, me less than her, because tired to be in this cold during our trip.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2020, 01:55:02 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1211 on: January 13, 2020, 02:06:14 PM »
So I had the pleasure and the privilege to watch two movies in russian with Lady of Kiev.
I liked very much to watch movies with my ex wife. And I start to feel that the difference with french ladies is a DIFFERENCE lol, I mean it's cultural. 
You are sharing more emotions, that's more festive. 
 
And Lady of Kiev showed me any cultural details, everything that I could have missed.
A real pleasure and a real privilege guys, my happiness was multiply by two or three.
you are in the bed with super blondinka and enjoying a piece of cake of the russian cinema.
Didn't have any complaint about this entertaining moment



« Last Edit: January 13, 2020, 03:22:37 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1212 on: January 13, 2020, 03:21:10 PM »
Joke of the day at work.

I asked a female colleague I know at work and she also quite a friend to pay me a coffee to the first floor of the building.
As we were about to step in the stairs she wanted to offer me some ginger.
I told her : "thank no, it's very kind of you but I will got a big erection for the rest of the day (it was 10 AM) and will be not able to work at all" 
She couldn't climb the stairs the first seconds as she was LOL.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2020, 03:23:57 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1213 on: January 13, 2020, 03:36:53 PM »
First real line with HB9 the first january 2020
 
I remember a little more about what happened during the first minute with HB9.
I changed of room, from the bar to the antichambre and found her in front of the buffet.
I very likely talked about food, very common "lines", "opener"
AND
then, suddenly 
She asked me ? 
What do you do for a living?
The BS question that many women like to ask in France. 
 
So I have a line for this BS.
 
I often say :
We have begun a startup with a buddy,
We monitor little girls who are not quiet during the evenings or during nights. Some married women who worries to get in trouble when they are alone.... and so on (i takdalé)
 
And then nothing, she stared at me and didn't get the joke.
During few seconds she was totally taken aback

I had to smile and friendly touch her wrist gently saying, "I am teasing you" "that's a joke".
 
In this upper class neighbouring where we were spending the celebration, of course all the good guys would say their likely important position first hand.
BORING...
"Je glissais through the paper wall, an angel in the hand, s taboy. I lay on the floor, surgi des chants de Maldoror, je mix l'intégrale de mes nuits de crystal, i belong to the festival.

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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1214 on: January 13, 2020, 07:02:58 PM »

I cannot hide to you that I was nuts during five days in Russian with her and we used most of the time our personal translators on our smartphones.

You have more fortitude than myself.
I would never spend so much time with someone under this circumstance; i.e. no common language.
A beautiful woman is pleasant to look at, but it is easier to live with a pleasant acting one.

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« Reply #1215 on: January 14, 2020, 04:43:55 AM »
You have more fortitude than myself.
I would never spend so much time with someone under this circumstance; i.e. no common language.

 
I need a pause but will restart learning russian soon.
Yesterday I watched one movie in native russian with english subtitles.
I had the strong intention to not let go russian learning, at least at a conversational level (B1/B2 level).
Worth to notice that SHE has a lot of fortitude also, it means that Lady of Kiev likes me.  :P
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« Reply #1216 on: January 14, 2020, 07:53:30 AM »
HB9 have stayed silent since friday night.

That's not a good sign even if circumstances are very harsh for her.
Most of all I dislike the fact that she not even said thank for the diner.
I don't care if she is a hot baby, if she could be Angelina Jolie or whoever.
But just say the word "thank" is a minimum, just when leaving the restaurant or one or two days after in a SMS.
 
 
We got here
a cold feet, Or buyer remorse (from her)
Or wrong tag on the product
or personal burn out.
I don't know yet exactly what is about 
 
 but I am not gonna to pursue her too much even if I have a lot of time and can play it easy on the calendar.

 
HB9 is back on the track

Got a SMS this morning
Thank you Pat sorry for the late message, thank you for the invitation, it was very pleasant. 
So I cancel her moral debt  :truce:     
 
I swear that I did nothing, just letting the clock ticking.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2020, 09:12:22 AM by Patagonie »
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« Reply #1217 on: January 14, 2020, 09:04:36 AM »
Buddy got his date but finally ended in the LJTBF
 
So I helped this guy to get back on track his date and he called me because she told him at the end that she wanted to be friend with him.
Clear message from a woman that nothing more will happen.
   
He however was confused because she sent him a message saying that she would like to meet him again.
I told him, ok if she talked to you about friendship, more than 95% it means this SMS is just to tell you that she would like to enter in your social circle NOTHING MORE. 
If you are not sure ask to her, she will confirm.   
He called me back the day after to tell me ok I am free with this woman, that's over.
 
I told him : that's not bad, you got her phone number, you set up a date, you met her and finally it didn't work, not so bad. YOu will perform better next time.
Now you can spend all your time with you son or at job and chase a new one, your mind being crystal clear.
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1218 on: January 14, 2020, 09:24:36 AM »
Mistress continues to try to squeeze out her piece of bread 
 
She tries to  push me telling that I miss her or I think to her. I make different writing stunts to never tell her something I of course don't think 
As I was speaking about incoming money maybe, she told me that I could sell my house  to buy an other one with a swimming pool and a garden. She has just manipulated her husband to buy a house (a big credit in fact) few months ago but those two characteristics are very likely missing and highly desired by her.
I told her that this shit was not gonna to happen.

For the price I would prefer to buy a sport car, many travels and to meet a bataillon of ukrainian pros if my sexual stamina was not satisfied with the women I meet or if my right hand (I am a righty yes) cannot help.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2020, 11:55:29 AM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1219 on: January 14, 2020, 02:53:56 PM »


For the price I would prefer to buy a sport car, many travels and to meet a bataillon of ukrainian pros if my sexual stamina was not satisfied with the women I meet or if my right hand (I am a righty yes) cannot help.

Have you tried 'switch hitting' like in USA baseball ??
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« Reply #1220 on: January 14, 2020, 02:55:33 PM »
she told me that I could sell my house  to buy an other one with a swimming pool and a garden.

One FSUW told me that I was living in the wrong state, and needed to relocate.

She had never been to USA; but she knew it all.
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« Reply #1221 on: January 15, 2020, 04:00:24 AM »
One FSUW told me that I was living in the wrong state, and needed to relocate.

She had never been to USA; but she knew it all.
Yep we are here in the same order of magnitude.

She is 38 and very likely didn't work more than 5 years for basic low wages. The rest of her money comes from the state, parents and husband.

On an other hand I worked hard, managing one job and half to make it short, sometimes managing a third activity to get more money and worked without a stop from my 23. Later some inheritage helped me.
 
During all those years I started my life, I was not poor, but surely not well off,  I had crossed many people who had some nice real estate, sometimes even quite impressive, and far better than mine.
I lived part time  in many places owned by girlfriends who had more expansive or more impressive places than mine also. 
 
Yes sometimes in thoses condos or houses I could dislike the paint or whatever.
But you NEVER heard me opening my mouth about this.  NEVER made a comment or a reproach about this. NEVER.The only reason I could open my mouth is if some securty reasons are involved, risk of fire, water infiltration, or danger for people....
If someone tells me I consider to renovate the bathroom, "what do you think about painting all in blue, replacing the bathtub by a shower?", as I am invited to, I would give my personal opinion about this.
Else if I consider that people have the chance to own something more expansive, bigger, more well situated than me I am happy for them and if they invite me I am happy to enjoy what they offer to me. 
 
So this attitude of mistress makes me mad. 
Today, technicaly, by her own she can only pretend to rent a 25 square meters studio, maybe a 40 square meters if she gets some help of the state. 
So she don't own any amount of money to get such property I have AND she has no technical skills (don't know if she is ever capable to use a screwdriver) to DIY at home. Skills I have. 
   
It's certain that her husband discovered our part time fucking and I suspect that she used it to make pressure on  him to buy a house (ok I made a mistake but you have to change also, buy a house) even if she told me that he just wanted renting.
So what a trade off, she continues to fuck around and now he is totally hunged by the feet with this house and his marriage. What a trade off !!!!!!!  :deadhorse:   
So to come back to this woman trying to explore how easily I could be the clown she would like me to be, she has started to figure out that I am not of course.
She would have consider maybe to make a move out of her marriage if I were a clown but as I don't show any characteristic of the guy who will pick up her as a taxi driver tomorrow, buying the new house with swimming pool and garden.So she has sticked to her husband (for a while maybe, but the situation doesn't hurt because now she will get back more fruits whatever happens)
 
So to summarize, her various comments about my kitchen the wrong color,, the swimming pool not existant, the missing garden and so on  have an only unique answer :
SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
Or you submit to me a project with all the necessary quotes , If I approve it,  you pay all the bills to the companies  with your money and ok. 
 
To be frank I had with my ex wife no problem of this order. She was smart and quickly found out by herself that among all her acquaintacnes she was the one living in a top place compare to many others.


« Last Edit: January 15, 2020, 08:38:57 AM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1222 on: January 15, 2020, 04:36:10 AM »
HB9 step 3

One of the most exciting time, except kissing a woman, removing her bra, is to try to figure out how you could climb the ladder, which means to have a date.
So that's a little like cooking when you repeatdly try some new combinations, aromats, time of cooking, stove or oven, cover or not. A very rich combination of every day.  And maybe you will soon sit to  the table  and enjoy both your time, the sweetness of her fingers, the depthness of her puplis, the sligh pressure of her beast on your chest who knows... 
 
So I am going to play it more :
disposal vs confrontation.
Play it long vs play it strong
Rather than to call her saying we could go the restaurant A or restaurant B, tuesday or wednesday could be fine for me and forcing her for a decision (It's worth reminding that  from the scratch that I didn't hear making a real proposition since, except the date the 10th january she setup herself)
 
I prefer to play it long, to play it soft. 
 
Wich means (sent yesterday), send a SMS rather than to call her and have 75% to land on the vocal box. Written communication is better, less loss in communication, she can come back to it any time easily. 
 
So I told her, in one SMS : I go to restaurant X  (not explaining with whom éh hé hé) friday night. Else if come to take a drink at home or we can have a bowling, give me a sign, kisses, Sleep well.
 
So you put no pressure on her and she damned know that if she don't move her ass she will never see you again, so you are not needy. 
You have been a gentleman from the second ONE but you still let her know that you are a man and not wanting to show anything landing the relationship to the LJTBF (Let just to be friends) all this accordingly to her very low level of energy and little time available.
 
And you can do whatever you want during this time because there are no relationship, no hopes. It is just a file in the operating system. And it's really better to handle it at this level.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2020, 03:16:19 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1223 on: January 15, 2020, 03:42:07 PM »
Lady of Kiev last chat 

So for the first time of the beginning of you story she wrote "I miss you" 
 
We are debriefing our trip and of course our relationship. 
 
About the italian guy :  she told me she only saw him (confirmed) on video every two days prior going to Italy. 
 
She faced several problems with this man : he was sad most of the time, almost never smiling, very greedy (her words), the language barreer was insurmountable and he tried to train her for learning english but didn't hired a terp. He was speaking english very quickly but SHE don't speak almost any.     
 
Chemistry is very important for her, and she has really more with me than she had with this man, who treated her correctly however. 
   

So NEWBIES i remind you some datas why you should put your ass in a plane ASAP rather than to stroke your stick with your right hand and type on the keyboard with you left one. 
 
KIEV
woman in her early 40 solid 8 for her age 
On Badoo and an other site after 2 weeks started chatting with an italian guy 
Italian guy invites her between 6 and 10 days after for a trip all included 
Pat arrived J+15 after italian guy, she went to Italy just after
others outsiders unknown including locals one 
Woman actually normally out of the dating market now. In relationship.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2020, 02:56:25 AM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1224 on: January 16, 2020, 02:59:56 AM »
So I have a little present for you, it's not that I am crazy about those videos but I rarely found a man who don't like
 
it .

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