Europe in the News

[HoundDaddyLee]

Clue:

The NL parliamentary elections this week - with a WAY right of centre party looking for ANY excuse to show the existing govt as 'soft' on immigration

The party's leader has been convicted - in December 2016 for making discriminatory and inciting hatred remarks regarding Islam

Interesting to know that you can be "convicted" for making a remark in The Netherlands. Maybe time to move The Hague to a more free country?


And Moby, how many refugees have you taken in to support so far?


HDL

[msmob]

Interesting to know that you can be "convicted" for making a remark in The Netherlands. Maybe time to move The Hague to a more free country?

Even if Wilder's party did get the most seats - he'll have problems find a coalition partner ....  If you feel 'sorry' for him. you should have been born in 1930's Germany ...

And Moby, how many refugees have you taken in to support so far?

Some wise-guy, in another place, asked the same question. In my time my family has taken in 4 refugees in a spare room and offered to take some folks from the jungle in Calais ... but Her Majesty's govt let a handful in  and there were 5,000 times more placements than refugees.

But, as you are clearly also a public spirited chap you might be interested in sponsoring me to 'shut up' during 3 sailboat / yachting races on March 26th - I'm dying my hair - some crazy colour - and MUCH harder - mustn't talk or shout from 10 am to 6.30pm GMT+1 ( Now that will be hard )

If you like, you can sponsor me to be silent on here for that weekend !

http://my.rednoseday.com/sponsor/sponsormobytobequietanddyed

[tfcrew]

Meanwhile...
How can such a small country have almost 30 political parties?
Also...
Are the Dutch on the verge of a Netherxit?

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2017/03/elections-netherlands-explainer-170315155943009.html

Posted by: msmob « on: Today at 02:09:24 PM

If you like, you can sponsor me to be silent on here for that weekend

Only one weekend? OK <-------------- the 'wise guy'
 

[msmob]

Only one weekend? OK

Make a donation and make it happen - put your money where your ... is

[HoundDaddyLee]

Even if Wilder's party did get the most seats - he'll have problems find a coalition partner ....  If you feel 'sorry' for him. you should have been born in 1930's Germany ...

Some wise-guy, in another place, asked the same question. In my time my family has taken in 4 refugees in a spare room and offered to take some folks from the jungle in Calais ... but Her Majesty's govt let a handful in  and there were 5,000 times more placements than refugees.

But, as you are clearly also a public spirited chap you might be interested in sponsoring me to 'shut up' during 3 sailboat / yachting races on March 26th - I'm dying my hair - some crazy colour - and MUCH harder - mustn't talk or shout from 10 am to 6.30pm GMT+1 ( Now that will be hard )

If you like, you can sponsor me to be silent on here for that weekend !

http://my.rednoseday.com/sponsor/sponsormobytobequietanddyed

Ah, So believing in freedom of speech makes me a Nazi. Pretty sure freedom of speech wasn't big with the brown shirts.  Good to know your perspective. I believe all speech should be free. Even speech I or society in general finds offensive. And no I will not be sending any money your way for your yachting adventure.


Don't fall in...

[msmob]

Ah, So believing in freedom of speech makes me a Nazi. Pretty sure freedom of speech wasn't big with the brown shirts.  Good to know your perspective. I believe all speech should be free. Even speech I or society in general finds offensive. And no I will not be sending any money your way for your yachting adventure.


Don't fall in...

Don't twist my words, please.

I strongly believe in freedom of speech - but not inciting discrimination.

I don't 'fall in' - it's called capsizing...and I didn't expect you would support good causes - having failed - miserably - to suggest I don't physically support some of the causes I might champion

The Great new is, that Wilders also failed miserably and the centre-right, pro EU party, will still have the most seats in a new NL govt.

[HoundDaddyLee]

Don't twist my words, please.

I strongly believe in freedom of speech - but not inciting discrimination.

I don't 'fall in' - it's called capsizing...and I didn't expect you would support good causes - having failed - miserably - to suggest I don't physically support some of the causes I might champion

The Great new is, that Wilders also failed miserably and the centre-right, pro EU party, will still have the most seats in a new NL govt.

I support plenty of good causes. Don't presume Moby. That is why most on here and the other forum find you insufferable.


Happy Sailing

[SANDRO43]

It appears that Geert Wilders's PVV party did NOT win in Holland's elections. Maybe Dutch voters were put off by his hairstyle, remindlng them of someone's from across the Atlantic .

[msmob]

I support plenty of good causes. Don't presume Moby.

You mean like your fail re 'how many refugees 'stunt' ?..

That is why most on here and the other forum find you insufferable.

 ''Et tu Brute?'' 


Is being 'popular' on a forum something you worry about...?! I'm certainly not too worried about being 'popular' in a place where I'm a 'paid by the post russiophobe'

Don't you find that when posters get personal - asking leading questions / making innuendos about another's personal life - you know they have already lost the debate ?

Happy Sailing

I'm always happy sailing... Especially, if in this case it's for a good cause....

[HoundDaddyLee]

I am sure your girl is happy you are posting photos of her on the internet...


But back to the subject at hand. It appears that the Turks don't care if you are right wing or progressive. They want holy war in Europe...


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-elections-netherlands-geert-wilders-freedom-party-turkey-fascist-no-difference-rallies-islam-a7632571.html

[SANDRO43]

It appears that the Turks don't care if you are right wing or progressive.

Maybe that's why one of the most complicated sailors' knots was called a Turk's Head .

[Boethius]

Interesting to know that you can be "convicted" for making a remark in The Netherlands. Maybe time to move The Hague to a more free country?


And Moby, how many refugees have you taken in to support so far?


HDL

You find it interesting that countries that, in three decades, lost anywhere from 2% to over 20% of their total populations because of wars based on ethnic conflict and demonization of "the other", would have laws which attempt to minimize the possibility of that occurring again?

Who'd a thunk?

[Boethius]

I am sure your girl is happy you are posting photos of her on the internet...


But back to the subject at hand. It appears that the Turks don't care if you are right wing or progressive. They want holy war in Europe...


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-elections-netherlands-geert-wilders-freedom-party-turkey-fascist-no-difference-rallies-islam-a7632571.html

I don't think he meant Muslims want a holy war.   All he meant is that there are current irreconcilable differences  between Muslims and the secular West, which leads to unpleasant misunderstandings.

By the way, Cavusoglu was denied entry to the Netherlands not because of the current Dutch government, but because the Muslim, Moroccan born mayor of a large Dutch city didn't want Turkish demonstrations in that city, and demanded the Dutch government ban them.

[msmob]

I am sure your girl is happy you are posting photos of her on the internet...

Shows how much you 'know'..  This photo is one of a sequence of 3 in this shoot that we agreed..together... were 'OK' to post on the internet.

She has used this image in 2 places.   

I won't try to 'work out your life'... I am sure I'd be as accurate as you are about ours....

But back to the subject at hand.

Hurray !

It appears that the Turks don't care if you are right wing or progressive. They want holy war in Europe...


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-elections-netherlands-geert-wilders-freedom-party-turkey-fascist-no-difference-rallies-islam-a7632571.html

There are all sorts of Turkish outlooks. I don't know how often you go there, but most of the folks I know don't seek war with anyone.

I preferred Turkey to be non secular in govt. Erdogan is stirring up nationalism and I am not a fan of that, in any nation.

[Gator]

I'm always happy sailing... Especially, if in this case it's for a good cause....

Is that sailing?  You seem stalled, with the jib luffing. 

Fine looking first mate.  No wonder you let go of the rudder. 

[msmob]

Is that sailing?  You seem stalled, with the jib luffing. 

It's a furling Genoa - and it isn't luffing - its just the tack is low down and the sail is mis-shapen over the pulpit!

Fine looking first mate.  No wonder you let go of the rudder.

Ha ! I had no mainsail up and we were on a v. broad reach - heading north in a light SW'ly on auto-pilot

The 'first mate' is in Thailand for a few more days and she designs her own dresses and I import bikinis which she alters and sells on the beach - so she is quite happy to model  

Last year we drank Guinness in an Irish Bar - owned by an Irishman and she promised to do a 'photo-session' for St Paddy's Day ... as I'm over in the UK and we'll be together in Sochi, soon.

I had visions of SC in an Emerald Green Bikini ....



Ah well, there's always tomorrow

[tfcrew]

The increasing difficulty of flying somewhere

Security forces reportedly killed the suspect in a shop in the south terminal. The hub was immediately evacuated following the incident.
The man, who was apparently known to the intelligence services, is said to have targeted a female officer having earlier shot another police woman in the north of the French capital. 
Addressing the media, France’s interior minister Bruno Le Roux
 said: ‘‘This suspect was seen in Vitry carrying out a carjacking. He was also seen in a bar where he threatened those inside. And we have linked him to an identity check close to the North of Paris. During that check, which turned badly, he opened fire on a police officer with a gun.’‘
Police said no other people were injured in the incident.
Anti-terrorist commandos from France’s elite Raid force have been carrying out a bomb sweep of the airport as part of the on-going security operation,
Air-traffic both to and from Orly was also suspended with some flights diverted to Paris Charles De Gaulle.

http://www.euronews.com/2017/03/18/a-39-year-old-frenchman-known-by-police-and-who-was-shot-dead-at-orly-airport

[tfcrew]

House of Commons Leader: 'Police officer has been stabbed'Statement from David Lidington to the House of Commons:

"First my colleagues will have appreciated, events have been moving rapidly and I want to emphases that the knowledge I have which is definite, is very limited. What I am able to say, there has been a serious incident within the estate. It seems a police officer has been stabbed that the alleged assailant was shot by armed police, an air ambulance is currently attending the scene to remove the causalities."
Act of terrorism
Metropolitan Police have said they are on the scene and say they are treating the incident as an act of terrorism, "until we know otherwise."
Parliament on lockdown
MP David Warburton tweeted: “We're in lock down inside the Chamber of the House of Commons. Just adjourned the House #Westminster #Parliament”

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/europe/london-uk-parliament-incident-latest/

video

The jihads apparently like anniversaries ....one yr ago today was Brussels.

[GQBlues]

His photographs showed people lying on the ground, some of them bleeding heavily and one apparently under a bus.

Man, I hope and pray for the safety and recovery of everyone.

On another note:

I guess France conducted their presidential debate yesterday. The major topics were *immigration/refugees* and their *welfare/social system*. Sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it?

[msmob]

The jihads apparently like anniversaries ....one yr ago today was Brussels.

WHY would you grant these wack jobs with the 'label' you just used ...  ? This is not a 'Holy War'  - it was designed to shock, scare, kill, maim...

French students involved on the bridge attack

[tfcrew]

This is not a 'Holy War'  - it was designed to shock, scare, kill, maim...

 Isn't that what 'war' is...killing and maiming?
 
Also..
I fail to see anything 'holy' about war.




 

[msmob]

Isn't that what 'war' is...killing and maiming?
 
Also..
I fail to see anything 'holy' about war.

YOU used the word jihad, right ?   I assumed you knew it's meaning ?

[Gator]

YOU used the word jihad, right ?   I assumed you knew it's meaning ?

I do. 

We don't know the details, yet I guess the assailant believed he was a jihadi warrior. 

[msmob]

I do. 

Should you tell tfcrew or will I .. ?

We don't know the details, yet I guess the assailant believed he was a jihadi warrior.

No doubt, it will come out 'in the wash' ..

Already have Russian acquaintances telling me it is the fault of EU immigration .. 

[Anathema]

Meh, this is what happens when you openly invite foxes into the hen house.  Hard to feel sorry for a country full of mobys that care nothing for the victims and make excuses for the attackers.

Of course the MSM isn't saying anything about the attacker but I'm sure it's a white, red haired, Amish person, as is the norm.  Oh wait...



Bunch of thumbs up and celebrating on Al Jazeera site.





Actually, yes I would believe.  I'd be more surprised if there wasn't celebration from the animals.




On a serious note though, prayers for the families that lost loved ones today and may a fast moving, terminal cancer be upon those that support these attackers (liberals).