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« Reply #725 on: April 17, 2015, 05:34:51 PM »
The time of Buzina's death is proven, because there were eyewitnesses.  The time it was announced publicly in Kyiv is proven.  The time Putin spoke of Buzina's death (some 20 minutes after is occured, and even less after it was announced in Kyiv) is also proven, because Putin's comments were broadcast live.


So 20 mins. is too short of a time for Putin to know about it? How does this prove that Putin ordered a hit on him?
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« Reply #726 on: April 17, 2015, 05:40:02 PM »
I never stated Putin ordered a hit on Buzina.
 
Buzina was not a national figure of prominence, in Ukraine or Russia.  So yes, it is rather surprising that his death would be referred to as a political murder by the Russian president less than half an hour after it occurred.
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« Reply #727 on: April 17, 2015, 05:49:55 PM »
I never stated Putin ordered a hit on Buzina.
 
Buzina was not a national figure of prominence, in Ukraine or Russia.  So yes, it is rather surprising that his death would be referred to as a political murder by the Russian president less than half an hour after it occurred.


The article infers that it was a hit. The proof they say is that Putin knew so quickly.
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« Reply #728 on: April 17, 2015, 05:51:31 PM »
I am just posting a point of view.
 
However, it was a hit.  Mr. Buzina would not be dead, otherwise.
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« Reply #729 on: April 17, 2015, 06:16:41 PM »
So yes, it is rather surprising that his death would be referred to as a political murder by the Russian president less than half an hour after it occurred.

I'd like to specify the time.  Buzina was shot at 13.20. Putin said about at 14.18 answering to the question of a jornalist who announced the murder. 
Not the first politically motivated murder in Ukraine in these days so Putin was prepared for an answer. Freedom of speech in Ukraine has some  peculiarities.

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« Reply #730 on: April 17, 2015, 06:23:05 PM »
How would Russian authorities know of his death less than an hour after it occurred?  Buzina is not Poroshenko.  He had no followers in Ukraine.
 
His death was reported in Ukraine at 1:55.  It was confirmed by Herashchenko at 2:05, and commented on by Putin, in the midst of a call in show, at 2:17.

I don't think Buzina's death is political, despite what Putin states.  I don't think the other deaths of politicians recently (including "suicides") are political, I believe they are about money.  Nevertheless, no one, including those in Ukraine, have stated Putin has no right to comment on the death.  Just that the speed with which he did so is rather odd.
 
 
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« Reply #731 on: April 20, 2015, 09:39:41 PM »
These will only make sense to posters who have lived in Russia or Ukraine, and know something of Soviet culture.  These songs are satires of songs composed by terrorists separatists.  I am posting it particularly for Belvis, Ranetka, and Doll.  Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/3LoAegt-29M


http://youtu.be/l3HyDhF-2RA



And one mocking Lyube, reportedly Putin's favourite band, and its frontman, a Russian lawmaker and Putin loyalist-












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« Reply #732 on: April 24, 2015, 07:20:27 PM »
A must read article on the recent assassinations in Ukraine


http://ukrainianweek.com/Politics/134959

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« Reply #733 on: April 24, 2015, 08:45:56 PM »
A must read article on the recent assassinations in Ukraine


http://ukrainianweek.com/Politics/134959

You needed to direct attention to the quote below.
Conclusion that most realists  are going to reach - like Nemstov assasination-who benefits? the grubby hands of the Kremlin are all over this.Once again highlighting Russian contempt for truth .

QUOTE FROM ARTICLE
"Judging by the information campaign currently built up in Russia around Buzyna’s death, Russia is trying to use this murder as an inverted image of the killing of the opposition leader Boris Nemtsov in Moscow. A cynical and bold execution of a journalist in the center of the Ukrainian capital should subdue the Western criticism of the Kremlin. Now Putin can always refer his critics to Kyiv, shrugging shoulders and saying that in Ukraine things are even worse.

The Kremlin's task is to deprive Ukraine of the support of the West, at any cost. The headline-making murder in the Ukrainian capital is the best thing to do to discredit the country. The more the West is tired of Ukraine, the more it sees corruption and crime, the more negative impressions of Kyiv the Western society gets, the more it is likely that Ukraine will become an easy prey for the Kremlin, left to Putin to devour.

"It is impossible to establish order in Ukraine. It is an area of ​​endless problems. Leave this headache to us and mind your own business" – these are the signals sent by Moscow to Brussels and Washington. And this idea is starting to gain momentum in the European society.

We cannot say for sure who exactly pulled the trigger. However, the beneficiary is obvious. And it is definitely not the Ukrainian authorities"
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #734 on: April 24, 2015, 09:27:58 PM »
You needed to direct attention to the quote below.
Conclusion that most realists  are going to reach - like Nemstov assasination-who benefits? the grubby hands of the Kremlin are all over this.Once again highlighting Russian contempt for truth .

We cannot say for sure who exactly pulled the trigger. However, the beneficiary is obvious. And it is definitely not the Ukrainian authorities"


You are woefully inconsistent....when earlier 'landmark events' took place and Ukraine or opposition to Russia was the obvious beneficiary you also always blamed the Russians....It is clear that whatever event occurs you will blame the Russians...facts or no facts. 


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« Reply #735 on: May 08, 2015, 05:15:01 PM »
Great article on Russia's link to the far right in the EU, as well as Russia's far right.  I am posting the whole article, with permission.  It demonstrates where the real Nazis are.


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A new leak of the text messages originating from a hacked smartphone of a high-ranking officer of Russia’s Presidential Administration sheds further light on the relations between the Russian authorities and their far-right allies in France.


The hackers from the Anonymous International have disclosed thousands of text messages sent to and by Timur Prokopenko, deputy chief of the Domestic Politics Department of the Russian Federation’s Presidential Administration. Before he started working in the Presidential Administration, Prokopenko headed the youth wing of the ruling United Russia party, the Young Guard, that was established in 2005, next to the Nashi movement and Aleksandr Dugin’s Eurasian Youth Union, to defend Russia from the largely virtual threat of a “color revolution”.
 
Prokopenko rose up to become a powerful figure in the Presidential Administration. The hacked messages reveal the internal developments in the Domestic Politics Department, how it communicates with and tries to control the already intimidated mass media, organizes and finances pro-Putin rallies and movements in Russia. The messages dating back to March 2014 also mention Marine Le Pen, the leader of the French far right National Front, and contribute to better understanding of the relations between Russia and Le Pen’s party.With regard to Le Pen, Prokopenko corresponded with Konstantin Rykov, a Russian politician and influential media producer. A self-proclaimed Russian patriot, who massively promoted #RussianSpring as a reference to the Russian annexation of Crimea and pro-Russian separatism in Eastern Ukraine, Rykov owns a €2 million villa in Côte d’Azur and is a tax resident of France, according to the investigation of Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny. It is Rykov’s French connection that apparently determines his acquaintance with Le Pen.
 
According to the leaked messages, on March 10, 2014, a week before the “referendum” in Russia-occupied Crimea, Prokopenko asked whether Rykov could bring Marine Le Pen as a “referendum” observer to Crimea, adding that her prospective participation would be important and that he informed his boss, Oleg Morozov, that Rykov was in contact with her. Rykov promised to find out.
 
Rykov replied the next day saying that Le Pen was on tour campaigning for her party’s municipal elections, so she was unlikely to go, but one of her deputies could go in her stead. Prokopenko seemed happy about this development and said that someone from Russia’s Foreign Ministry would call Le Pen. Then Rykov added that the Danes supported “them” (Russia) too, but it was difficult for Rykov to communicate with them as he did not know the Danish language.
 
These communications correspond well to the developments in March 2014. Le Pen did not indeed go to Crimea, but her contemporary adviser on international relations, Aymeric Chauprade, went to observe the “referendum”. The French newspaper Libération informed, with a reference to Chauprade’s entourage, that he had been invited to monitor the “referendum” by the Eurasian Observatory for Democracy and Elections (EODE), a Belgium-based NGO run by Belgian extreme right activist Luc Michel. Together with the pro-Kremlin, Poland-based European Centre for Geopolitical Analysis, the EODE was responsible for inviting international monitors to observe the “referendum” in Crimea. However, the National Front  denied that the EODE had invited Chauprade, as the party feared that the publicized relationship with the Belgian right-wing extremists could damage the reputation of the National Front, especially on the eve of the municipal elections.
 
By “the Danes” who supported the Russian idea of the Crimea “referendum”, Rykov might have meant the far right Danish People’s Party. The day after the “referendum”, the party’s foreign affairs spokesman Søren Espersen declared that they should respect “the will of the people of Crimea” who “wanted to become part of Russia”.
 
The same day that Espersen declared his party’s support for the Russian practical annexation of Crimea, Rykov happily informed Prokopenko that Le Pen “had officially recognized the results of the referendum in Crimea!”. “She has not let us down ;) ”, replied Prokopenko. “We need to somehow demonstrate our respect for the French. This is important”, Rykov suggested. “Yes, super!”.
 
Later developments provided a clue what that “respect” for the National Front could be.
 
Already by the time of the communications between Prokopenko and Rykov, Le Pen had travelled at least twice to Moscow. During her visit in June 2013, Le Pen met with Sergey Naryshkin, speaker of the Russian parliament and Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. The latter was also a founder of the far right Rodina party, which he headed until 2006. In 2011, President Vladimir Putin appointed him a head of the board of Russia’s Military-Industrial Commission. Rogozin has French connections too: apparently, it was him who helped establish, in 2008, the Institute of Democracy and Cooperation, a Russian “soft power” think-thank headed by Natalya Narochnitskaya, former Russian MP nominated by the Rodina party, and British Eurosceptic writer John Laughland.As the French website Mediapart reported, during her visit to Moscow in February 2014, Le Pen secretly met with Putin. Two people were instrumental in setting up that meeting. One was Jean-Luc Schaffhauser, a member of the Marine Blue Gathering, a coalition of far right parties that supports Le Pen, who was responsible for finding funds for the National Front. The other was Alexander Babakov. He briefly headed the Rodina party in 2006, and is now an MP from the United Russia party and a member of the board of the Russia’s Military-Industrial Commission. Yet another investigation by Navalny revealed that Babakov owned an €11.5 million estate in France.
 
Reportedly, Schaffhauser introduced Le Pen to Babakov, while the latter – most likely with the assistance from Rogozin – helped arrange Le Pen’s secret meeting with Putin. Few know exactly what they discussed during this meeting, but later revelations suggest that it was a multi-million Euro loan to the National Front.
 
Meanwhile, Chauprade developed further links with the Russians. He was already familiar to the Russian political establishment. In June 2013, he participated in the meeting of the Russian parliament’s Committee for Family, Women and Children Issues that advanced the eventual adoption of the so-called “Dima Yakovlev Law” that banned adoption of Russian orphan children by LGBT couples and US citizens.
 
Furthermore, as Mediapart reported, Chauprade introduced the father of Marine Le Pen, Jean-Marie Le Pen, to Konstantin Malofeev, a Russian oligarch and founder of investment fund Marshall Capital Partners, who was, in summer 2014, put on the EU sanctions list for financing illegal pro-Russian military groups in Eastern Ukraine. Malofeev was instrumental in helping Jean-Marie Le Pen, former leader of the National Front, with obtaining, in April 2014, a €2 million loan from Vernonsia Holdings Ltd., a Cyprus offshore company linked to the Russian investment company VEB Capital.
 
As could be expected, the “Franco-Russian interest” in Crimea transcended the ideological tenets, if any. Chauprade’s and Malofeev’s friend Philippe de Villiers, French far right politician and businessman, as well as brother of Chief of Staff of the French Army Pierre de Villiers, met with Putin in August 2014. During the meeting, de Villiers suggested to build, in a joint venture with Malofeev, two Puy du Fou theme parks in Moscow and Crimea.
 
Chauprade helped the Russians build contacts with many other Western far right politicians. At the end of May 2014, Chauprade participated, as the Swiss newspaper Tages-Anzeiger exposed, in a secret meeting in Vienna convened by Malofeev. A number of European far right politicians, including representatives of the National Front, Freedom Party of Austria and Bulgarian Ataka party, participated in the secret meeting in Vienna too. Chauprade also sat in the presidium, next to Malofeev, Mizulina, Russian religious leaders and CEO of Russian Railways Vladimir Yakunin, of the eighth meeting of the anti-LGBT World Congress of Families that took place in Moscow in September 2014.
 
The same month saw that Schaffhauser’s fundraising mission proved to be a success. As Mediapart discovered, the National Front secured a €40 million loan from the First Czech-Russian Bank. Despite the name, this bank belongs almost exclusively to the Russians, namely to the companies and holdings owned by Gennady Timchenko, a major Russian businessman from Putin’s inner circle and a co-founder of Cyprus-registered Gunvor Group Ltd. that, as US officials suspected, hosted Putin’s own investments. (Following the Russian annexation of Crimea, the US sanctioned Timchenko and he sold his share in Gunvor to the company’s Swedish co-founder Torbjörn Törnqvist.) Timchenko, too, has French connections: in 2011, he was elected chairman of the Economic Council of the Franco-Russian Chamber of Commerce (CCIFR), an important instrument of the Kremlin’s “soft power” in France. In 2013, Timchenko shared chairmanship of the Economic Council with Total’s CEO Christophe de Margerie, but the latter was killed in an airplane accident in Moscow in October 2014, so now Timchenko apparently remains the only chairman of the CCIFR’s Economic Council.
 
For his service to the National Front, Schaffhauser, who also became an MEP in May 2014, was paid a consultancy fee of €140.000. As a sign of his loyalty to the Kremlin, Schaffhauser took part in the monitoring mission of the “parliamentary elections” in self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk “People’s Republics” on the territories occupied by pro-Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine. The international observation mission was organized by the same Eurasian Observatory for Democracy & Elections and the European Centre for Geopolitical Analysis that invited observers to the Crimea “referendum”. As the Rue89Strasbourg website reports, Schaffhauser will visit Donetsk in May 2015, allegedly to observe the implementation of the Minsk II agreement. He will be accompanied by representatives of the French NGO “Urgence Enfants d’Ukraine” that was established in September 2014 by a member of the French far right Identitarian Bloc Alain Fragny, and looks like a money-laundering operation.
 
Was the amount of money that the business structures close to the Kremlin have injected in the National Front that “respect” that Rykov suggested the Presidential Administration to demonstrate to “the French”? Most likely, the “respect” was indeed counted in Euros or contributed to the Russians’ decision to grant the multi-million loan to the National Front, but it is hard to believe that the “official recognition of the results of the Crimea referendum” by Marine Le Pen cost that much. The scope of the cooperation between the French far right and the Russian authorities, which started long before the annexation of Crimea, indicates that it is one of the many elements, albeit a significant one, of the Kremlin’s long-term strategy to support all the anti-EU and anti-US forces in Europe in order to undermine the transatlantic cooperation and ultimately weaken the West.
http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-and-front-national-following-the-money/
 
 
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« Reply #736 on: May 12, 2015, 04:33:07 PM »
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Russia has up to 10,000 soldiers involved in the war in Ukraine and at least 220 have died in battles there in the past year, Russian opposition activists claimed in a report published Tuesday.
 
The report, which prominent Kremlin critic Boris Nemtsov was working on at the time of his murder in February, seeks to counter overwhelming Russian state media accounts casting the events as a local uprising against the Ukrainian government.

The 64-page report is entitled Putin War, after Russian President Vladimir Putin. Drawing on media accounts, testimonies from relatives and other representatives of dead soldiers and confidential sources, it maintains that hundreds of Russian troops have died fighting in a war that has cost Russia hundreds of millions of dollars.

Including the Russian army, rebel troop numbers have reached as many as 37,000, and the government in Moscow has spent 53-billion rubles (US$1-billion) in military support for the pro-Russian insurgency in Ukraine, according to the report released by opposition activist Ilya Yashin. He and his colleagues completed the research following Nemtsov’s Feb. 27 murder in central Moscow.

“Neither Putin nor any of his generals have the courage to admit the fact of military aggression against Ukraine,” they said in the report, estimating that at least 220 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine.

Yashin said the real number of losses may have been much greater but that he would give figures only for deaths that could be confirmed.

The Russian Defence Ministry has denied that any of its soldiers have fought in Ukraine, saying that the Russians who have joined the armed separatists were volunteers.

The report claimed the soldiers were released from their duties in the army and listed as volunteers. The Defence Ministry promised to pay compensation if the soldiers were killed or wounded, but failed to live up to its commitments, the report said.

Yashin said Russian government actions have harmed the country’s standing in the world and economic well-being.

Russia will pay for the war “with the lives of our soldiers, an economic crisis and political isolation,” according to the report. . .

Yashin said researchers on the report had been subject to intimidation, but that they would not be deterred.
“They killed Nemtsov, so we took over. If they don’t let us work, others will take our place,” he said.

According to Nemtsov’s sources, at least 150 Russian soldiers died in August 2014. Their relatives received 2 million rubles (now worth about $40,000) in compensation and signed non-disclosure documents.

Around 70 Russian soldiers died in January and February in fighting around the city of Debaltseve, the report said, adding that their family members were unable to receive compensation and appealed to Nemtsov for help.

Many Russian citizens engaged in fighting in eastern Ukraine have freely admitted where they come from, but stopped short of confirming they are fighting under Moscow’s orders.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/russia-has-thousands-of-troops-fighting-in-ukraine-report-by-murdered-putin-critic-says
 
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« Reply #737 on: May 12, 2015, 04:44:01 PM »
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The report alleges that Russia played an active part in the war in Ukraine  despite official denials from the Kremlin that its troops were involved. It  alleges that Russians paid a heavy cost both in terms of hundreds of troops' lives and billions of dollars of taxpayer money.

It ties together interviews with soldiers who say they fought on the  frontlines and disguised Russian vehicles so they wouldn't be identified in  Ukraine, alongside pictures of Russian troops and heavy weapons allegedly spotted in the country and reports of widespread hiring of Russian mercenaries to fight against Ukrainian government forces.

Overall, the authors estimate that the war in Ukraine cost Russia about $2.5  billion in mercenary fees and refugee assistance alone.

It also alleges that the annexation of Crimea, which led to international  sanctions against Russia that helped send it into a deep recession, was  orchestrated by the Kremlin to prop up Vladimir Putin's flagging popularity  ratings.


Read more:  http://www.businessinsider.com/murdered-russian-opposition-politicians-damning-report-on-putin-is-published-boris-nemtsov-2015-5#ixzz3ZyGtRIHg


 
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« Reply #738 on: May 12, 2015, 04:48:34 PM »
Here is the report in Russian. 

http://www.putin-itogi.ru/putin-voina/
 
I am printing it, in case of a denial of service (which happened earlier today).
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« Reply #739 on: May 12, 2015, 06:46:03 PM »
it is a damming set of revelations , many of which where already partly known ,

however it does attempt to wrap all of russias involvement in the war in ukraine into one good document

hopefully the people who finalised and now have made this report public will live to see an improvement in their country and ukraine

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« Reply #740 on: May 12, 2015, 06:50:34 PM »
hopefully the people who finalised and now have made this report public will live ...

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« Reply #741 on: May 12, 2015, 07:27:45 PM »
You can be sure Doll and the rest of those Putinists wil say the report is complete BS.
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« Reply #742 on: May 17, 2015, 11:54:05 AM »
Two Russian soldiers arrested in Donbas.


You know, the ones who aren't in Ukraine?


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/17/us-ukraine-crisis-casualties-idUSKBN0O20CE20150517
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« Reply #743 on: May 17, 2015, 12:06:00 PM »
This should warm the hearts of all those posters who view Ukrainians as "fascists" who should be wiped off the world map, or otherwise don't think Ukrainian lives matter.  For those in denial, the weapons the terrorists have, photographed by Ukrainian citizens, have never been produced in Ukraine and, therefore, their source can only be Russia-


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The war in Ukraine may have faded largely from international headlines, but Vladimir Putin’s drip-drip invasion continues. In the last two weeks, forensic evidence, some of which has been reported by monitor organizations and senior Western diplomats, the rest corroborated by eyewitness photography and video, only confirms what the U.S. fears most: A summer offensive is inevitable.

On May 5, the Ukrainian government released new data which says that they have lost 28 towns to Russian-backed separatists since February 18.  . . .   The map of separatist territory
is as alarming as it is illustrative, especially when it is combined with the daily reports of ceasefire violations and fighting coming out of both the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) and Kiev.

On May 6, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko addressed the National Security and Defense Council and warned that Russia has 50,000 troops on the border and its proxies have more than 40,000 fighters inside the country. That’s not only a combined 50% increase in possible invaders over July of last year, the month which proceeded the “Russian invasion” on the Ukrainian mainland. It’s more than enough soldiers to invade and gobble up a significant amount of Ukrainian territory.

“There is a convincing evidence that Ukraine strictly complies with the Minsk [ceasefire] agreements and militants constantly violate them,” Poroshenko noted. Separatists do not allow international observers to verify their withdrawal of heavy weaponry. “Militants regularly shoot Ukrainian positions, engage in reconnaissance and subversive activity and provoke armed confrontations in order to disrupt peaceful settlement of the conflict.”

One day later, May 7, the OSCE witnessed a significant amount of fighting both near Donetsk and around a town called Shirokino, 20 kilometers east of Mariupol—part of a trend of heavier fighting which started in late April. The OSCE also reported that one of their surveillance drones was jammed for 10 minutes while attempting to monitor the movement of separatist tanks near Donetsk, in violation of the 50-kilometer demarcation line agreed upon by both sides.

On May 8, the day after the OSCE’s unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was jammed, the OSCE witnessed three Ukrainian tanks in government-controlled territory—an admitted violation of the negotiated ceasefire. That same day the OSCE witnessed 30 separatist tanks moving toward the front lines within the demarcation line—10 times more than the Ukrainian government was deploying. The OSCE also observed a testing ground for advanced weaponry—proof, according to the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, of “Russia’s train and equip program in plain sight.”

Each day since has provided more evidence that the Minsk agreement is little more than a piece of paper. For weeks the OSCE, NATO, and citizens of eastern Ukraine brave enough to snap pictures and video have been warning that a large amount of heavy Russian armor and artillery has been headed back to the front lines. The separatist leadership has maintained that this equipment was only moving around to prepare for military parades on Saturday, May 9, to commemorate the 70th anniversary of Nazi Germany’s capitulation to the Soviet Union in World War II. While the movement of this equipment would be a violation of the Minsk agreement whatever the floated reason, since the parades ended the weaponry hasn’t been moved back beyond the demarcation line. . .

It’s not just the amount of firepower now in separatists’ hands that is alarming observers. It’s also the kind of weaponry—specifically, the Strela-10 anti-aircraft missile system.

The Strela-10 is designed to supply close support to troops and vehicles near the front line of fighting. It’s meant to shoot down fast-moving, low-flying aircraft such as helicopters or non-stealth jets. There is significant evidence that the Russian military regularly includes the Strela-10 in important convoys because it can protect against immediate air threats while longer-range weapons (such as the Buk system, which shot down a MH17 passenger jet in 2014) can perform the same function from further afield. In fact, the first time the Russian-backed fighters were ever seen using T-72 tanks, Strela-10s were filmed escorting the vehicles from a border crossing in Lugansk just seven days before the MH17 was immolated. There are no documented cases of the Strela-10 system having been captured by Russian-backed separatists, and the T-72 has not been used by the Ukrainian military in this conflict.

On May 2, three Strela-10s were spotted escorting a convoy of two T-64B tanks, three BMP-2s, three BTR-80s, three 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers, three BM-21 Grad MLRS, three trucks towing artillery pieces, perhaps 2A65 152mm howitzers, and several other military trucks and fuel tankers through Lugansk. On May 5 Strelas were seen parading through Donetsk, escorting a similar convoy. But if they were only in Donetsk for the May 9 parade, it’s curious that a similar convoy was spotted by the OSCE within the line of demarcation near Donetsk on May 10, suggesting that the weapons have not returned to their holding areas as specified in the Minsk protocol.

Could these weapons systems have been mobilized just to deter Ukraine and fortify standing separatist positions? Well, the Minsk protocol was designed to forestall any such scenario and explicitly called for de-escalation rather than retrenchment. Also, Western military officials seem to think the presence of Also, Western military officials seem to think the presence of this materiel has another purpose altogether. In late April, NATO Supreme Commander and U.S. Air Force General Philip Breedlove warned that the Russian military had taken advantage of the ceasefire to train and equip the separatists and to “reset and reposition” their forces. Nor were these mere training exercises. “Many of their [the Russians’] actions are consistent with preparations for another offensive,” Breedlove said, adding that Russia never rattles its saber without the attendant follow-through. Breedlove also suggested that Russia had further integrated its own military’s “[c]ommand-and-control, air defense, support to artillery…making a more coherent, organized force out of the separatists.” Then, on May 11, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg also warned that the separatists are now so well equipped that they could launch an all-out offensive against the Ukrainian military on little notice and without direct military assistance. Again, if all this was just to hold the line, then why agree to Minsk in the first place, when that protocol was designed to do just that without the benefit of tanks or APCs?
There’s the added alarm of what the separatist leadership itself says about its imminent plans. On April 23, Vice News broadcast an interview with Alexander Zakharchenko, the self-declared head of the “Donetsk People’s Republic.” Asked if he saw the Minsk agreement holding, Zakharchenko was unambiguous: He did not want it to hold.

He categorically rejected one of the main planks of that diplomatic settlement—that the Donbass remain part of Ukrainian territory. “Do you suggest we give up, so our territory can fall into Ukraine’s hands?” he told Vice News. “So that they can put us back into the stalls, like we are some kind of cattle? So that they can drag us to join the EU, to be living off American handouts? We do not want that. We declared that we want to be friends with Russia and that’s what we are doing. That’s what the majority of the local population want. At least 95 percent.”

Zakharchenko, who wants to see the return of the Soviet Union, mooted the possibility of other conducting “referenda” to certify their breakaway status from Ukraine.

“Aside from Zakharchenko’s belligerent rhetoric,” a senior Western diplomat told The Daily Beast, “the most worrisome evidence is the continued active tempo of Russian training activities with the separatist armies, and the presence of advanced Russian surface-to-air missile systems near the contact line in blatant violation of the Minsk agreement.”

As ever, the Putinists command one side to abide by a compact they never had any intention of honoring themselves. Only now, they’ve managed to embarrassingly snare the State Department into defending their own arguing position. While John Kerry was breaking bread (and potatoes) with Putin and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov at the Russian president’s personal residence in Sochi last week, Poroshenko made an ambiguous statement about plans to regain Donetsk International Airport, once the cynosure for some of the fiercest fighting the war as yet seen and some of the bravest Ukrainian resistance to better-armed separatists.

“I have no doubt,” Poroshenko said at the premiere of Airport, a new documentary about the battle for that installation, “we will free the airport, because it is our land. And we will rebuild the airport.”

Kerry was in Russia on his first state visit since 2013, and clearly there to ask for various favors from a government the United States has sanctioned yet nevertheless believes it still needs to resolves various foreign crises from Syria to Iran and Ukraine. So the opportunity to scandalize America’s top diplomat—something of a contact sport in Russia these days—was too good for the Kremlin-owned press to pass up. Asked by the state-owned media about Poroshenko’s provocative although nebulous pledge, Kerry replied as the media hoped he might by saying that he hadn’t seen the Ukrainian president’s remarks but would warn him to “think twice” before kickstarting any military operation.

The U.S. embassy in Moscow tried to downplay the inevitable awkwardness this created between two allies, noting, for instance, that Poroshenko has elsewhere ruled out taking back any of the Donbass by force. But Moscow just sat back and enjoyed the squirming. Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s ambassador to the UN, said, “It’s an important thing that Kerry made this statement and that he said the U.S. believed it was crucial to observe the accords reached in Minsk on February 12,” neglecting of course to mention how his own government has “observed” those accords.

The Ukrainians, meanwhile, were left furious at Kerry for kowtowing to the Kremlin (again) and now worry that the Obama administration has gone out of its way to telegraph its own disposition should fighting indeed escalate in the coming weeks. Kerry went so far as depict the Ukraine crisis as the result of bilateral culpability: “Whoever has instigated” war, he said, should stop, as it has gone on too long already. He also floated the possibility of U.S. sanctions relief on Russia “if and when Minsk is fully implemented.” Washington, it is feared in Kiev, will do nothing if Minsk is turned to toilet paper. And that’s as good as an engraved invitation for Putin to proceed as he’d already planned to anyway.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/17/new-putin-invasion-coming-this-summer.html
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« Reply #744 on: May 17, 2015, 12:11:53 PM »
Two Russian soldiers arrested in Donbas.


You know, the ones who aren't in Ukraine?


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/17/us-ukraine-crisis-casualties-idUSKBN0O20CE20150517

So what. Nobody denied Russian volunteers aren't in Donbass fighting the nazis. Unfortunately those two soldiers will probably be tortured to Death by the nazi freaks.

But where's the arrests of the thousands of tanks and Equipment that according to the nazis continually have invaded Ukraine?

By the way, Your Source, reuters, had a piece where they admitted Ukraine has a big nazi problem. But I don't expect you to link to that one anytime soon.

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« Reply #745 on: May 17, 2015, 12:19:35 PM »
The source is the SBU.


The soldiers were not volunteers.  They are currently in the Russian military. 
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« Reply #746 on: May 17, 2015, 12:24:48 PM »
The source is the SBU.


The soldiers were not volunteers.  They are currently in the Russian military.

Probably on leave. If Russia really wanted to invade, Kiev and nazi nest Lviv would be turned into Ashes in no time.

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« Reply #747 on: May 17, 2015, 12:28:34 PM »
Probably on leave. If Russia really wanted to invade, Kiev and nazi nest Lviv would be turned into Ashes in no time.

Another non-response.  Natural, you got your ass kicked by a girl (AGAIN).

Well done counselor

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« Reply #748 on: May 17, 2015, 12:47:15 PM »
So what. Nobody denied Russian volunteers aren't in Donbass fighting the nazis. Unfortunately those two soldiers will probably be tortured to Death by the nazi freaks.

These neo-Nazis certainly get about; even in Norway: [is there anything you'd like to confess to us Natural? ;)]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14260195
http://www.hate-speech.org/nordic-neo-nazis-hail-rudolf-hess/
http://www.thelocal.no/20150212/norway-under-threat-from-neo-nazi-groups
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« Reply #749 on: May 17, 2015, 12:53:43 PM »
Probably on leave. If Russia really wanted to invade, Kiev and nazi nest Lviv would be turned into Ashes in no time.

Just to get some balance on your Nazi mantra:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-who-are-russian-neo-nazi-groups-fighting-separatists-1463489
http://euobserver.com/political/128108  European neo-Nazis hold meeting in Russia.
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