Trench's Questions and Philosophies

[msmob]

Well yes with hindsight a local sim is a good move but to those of us that are not intrepid explorers these things aren't always apparent. When I first went to Kiev a couple of years back I had no idea that my mobile network would work over there, if a sim/Ukrainian network would even work on my phone, what to get, etc. The whole place was alien to me and I wasn't even sure if people spoke much English. Add to that a load if other things to think of and it's not always as easy a situation as it sounds. Fortunately the hotel had the standard free wifi and I could get messages through WhatsApp.

I traveled, yesterday  - knowing that my UK and Cyprus sims would not work in Turkey for a few hours ...  the airport wifi was 'free' if spending more than 25TL - less than five pounds ( 6 Euro)  on food ... but when they scanned my boarding card to give me a code... it didn't work ((

I paid 4 Euro for shyte internet

If one is going to be travelling from the airport to a hotel - it is daft to  not be in comms - as whatsapp allows the known - foreign number - to continue to work - if you swap sims ..

The wise FSU traveller buys a twin sim phone ..or takes a MiFi data 'modem' - to allow the creation of a portable wifi hotspot - using a local data sim


Then your laptop / phone carries on working and no need to swap sims

[BdHvA]

. . . I've just joined up to dm notify and within about a 12 hour period received 9 letters just from my profile being visible on the search engine before I got around to hiding my profile - I haven't even gotten around to messaging anyone on there! lol if I do indeed decide to message any. That type of response I would not get anywhere close to in the UK. In the UK compared to the FSU I am nowhere near any stage of getting into a serious relationship with a girl compared to FSU dating where much more rapid progress can be made. Many guys in the UK are in the same boat as me. It always seems like there are far more dateless men here than women and that's the problem.

I am curious and amused why you have not bothered to reply to 9 letters?

Also be sure that available women in the UK exceed men by a factor of 1.2 I have heard elsewhere (Derby) it is closer to 1.8. So please share your excuses.

[Nightwish]

I am curious and amused why you have not bothered to reply to 9 letters?

Also be sure that available women in the UK exceed men by a factor of 1.2 I have heard elsewhere (Derby) it is closer to 1.8. So please share your excuses.

That was by far the most stupid question anyone asked Trench, he received the letters but he has not paid to read them of course, that would involve spending money.. and if there is one thing we know about poor Trenchy is that this is something he wont do...period!

compare that to spending a couple of weeks in Ukraine and believing he will score with the local ladies just by chatting them up on the spot 

a foreigner, without any understanding of the language or culture, and with zero social skills and a very misogynist view on women, and outspoken condescending view on the country itself he is visiting..

this is a farce almost not worthy of comments anymore...

[msmob]

I am curious and amused why you have not bothered to reply to 9 letters?

Also be sure that available women in the UK exceed men by a factor of 1.2 I have heard elsewhere (Derby) it is closer to 1.8. So please share your excuses.

Where the 'eck are you sourcing your data, BdhvA?  The ration ( 2016) was 33:34 men to women ... nowhere near  20 percent

You are confusing Derby with Nottingham - that's like confusing Eindoven with Venlo ...

[Blighty]

I am curious and amused why you have not bothered to reply to 9 letters?

TC. From my own experiences, the FSU women are more serious in their dating intentions than British women. I had intensive correspondence with several women in the month before my first visit to Ukraine. You soon discover a lot about each other, as these women are mostly serious in their search. My first trip did not go to plan, but at least I did meet the lady who is now my wife.

These women are not interested in time wasters, or men who are Scrooge-like in their attitude to paying €64.90 for a 3 months online membership plan. Spend the money, and start corresponding with them. These women are potentially interested in you, and would like to know more about you. Assuming you have one, how close are they to your list of partner attributes? Have you got some pro-forma letters written in advance? It would be more beneficial for your happiness than posting on RWD!

[Trenchcoat]

I traveled, yesterday  - knowing that my UK and Cyprus sims would not work in Turkey for a few hours ...  the airport wifi was 'free' if spending more than 25TL - less than five pounds ( 6 Euro)  on food ... but when they scanned my boarding card to give me a code... it didn't work ((

I paid 4 Euro for shyte internet

If one is going to be travelling from the airport to a hotel - it is daft to  not be in comms - as whatsapp allows the known - foreign number - to continue to work - if you swap sims ..

The wise FSU traveller buys a twin sim phone ..or takes a MiFi data 'modem' - to allow the creation of a portable wifi hotspot - using a local data sim


Then your laptop / phone carries on working and no need to swap sims

Most twin mobiles at the moment can only take two sins at the same time by putting one in the sd card slot - then you have nowhere to store your photos or use all apps until you replace it. In which case you might as well just have a single sim phone and switch just the sim over if its a case of switching sim with sd card as in duel sim.

Like the point I was making in Kyn trip report which you've just proved here, internet at airport cannot always be relied upon to make travel arrangements off or necessarily anything else. Not what you need after getting off a flight. I find that Google Chrome blocks a lot of them anyway so use Firefox in most airports now.

[Trenchcoat]

That was by far the most stupid question anyone asked Trench, he received the letters but he has not paid to read them of course, that would involve spending money.. and if there is one thing we know about poor Trenchy is that this is something he wont do...period!

No I have not read them, they are from all over the FSU. That is why usually I try to hide my profile on dating sites to begin with. I don't want to end up just anywhere on a mad goose chase after one woman. I know now I can get the interest, what I need to do is meet the numbers of women in an organised way to try and find one with good chemistry with me. I do of course try to save money where I see I need not spend it but can still get the results.

[Trenchcoat]

These women are not interested in time wasters, or men who are Scrooge-like in their attitude to paying €64.90 for a 3 months online membership plan. Spend the money, and start corresponding with them. These women are potentially interested in you, and would like to know more about you. Assuming you have one, how close are they to your list of partner attributes? Have you got some pro-forma letters written in advance? It would be more beneficial for your happiness than posting on RWD!

When I'm sure of a woman I will do whatever I need to be with her in a decent financial situation. I know some of these women will be potentially into me for legit reasons but as just said need to find the 'one' and I don't see going out after random women the best way around that. I have learnt a lot from RWD which I would have been in the dark about. A lot of this stuff if I didn't know about it could mess up a good FSW relationship. Others have been helpful in hopefully improving my search. Don't worry I'm making sure at the moment that I put decent time into my search so I shouldn't be all at sea out there. I'm optomistic this time, I know I am nothe assured of anything and it can all fall flat but I think I could do ok if I get on a good run.

Plus it must be added that I've had a couple of experiences out there with the women I met that were quite difficult to work out what was going on. The last girl I have talked about a lot here and the issues. Even going back to the first girl though it was strange as we seemed to get on and there were a few positive signs bur they conflicted with lack of affection putting me in a weird place of not knowing where I stood. Anyway, I'm hoping this time will be much more straight forward

[Sting23]

when you going again Trench? 

you keep talking about chemistry dude but it takes time. sure you can meet a girl and hit it off right away but she may also be reserved for a while before opening up.
Trying to meet 10 girls in 2 weeks ain't gonna help.

You speak no Russian so that is a huge disadvantage.  Most girls from smaller towns tend to have worse English.  Not always, as I met some who were fluent but in general.

[Trenchcoat]

when you going again Trench? 

you keep talking about chemistry dude but it takes time. sure you can meet a girl and hit it off right away but she may also be reserved for a while before opening up.
Trying to meet 10 girls in 2 weeks ain't gonna help.

You speak no Russian so that is a huge disadvantage.  Most girls from smaller towns tend to have worse English.  Not always, as I met some who were fluent but in general.

I will be going soonish. Reserved girls can be a pain as it's a case of are they reserved/conservative/moralistic or are they just nor into you. I tend to take if there is not the quick flirty eye movements and feeling of electricity then there's no chemistry. I get the impression that there are probably many FSW that are left single because they have it drilled into them to act moralistic etc or are naturally that way.

I don't think they realise that the high moralistic standards they prize so highly is what is screwing up their chances. For some reason they seem to think the guy should stay frigid around them for god knows how long till the moment of worthyness is obtained. I don't have time to play games where I don't know where I stand or how long I play for or don't know what I need do. Some say it is best to make a move on these moralistic girls but I am not for forcing myself on anyone. If they are not showing me interest then they are not interested is the way I take it and I move on.

Well Lviv does not seem too bad, looks like quote a few girls speak English, maybe as near Poland & EU, plus being a more European City in terms of architecture. I know a few words of Russian but to be honest it's probably so bad sounding that I would be better using the translator app on my phone. I think it just makes a horrible conversation of it me trying to shout out the odd no doubt badly pronounced Russian word to try to make her understand. To my mind if a girl gets peed of with the translator app then she is probably not interested as not the want to make it worK there.

[Blighty]

Even going back to the first girl though it was strange as we seemed to get on and there were a few positive signs bur they conflicted with lack of affection putting me in a weird place of not knowing where I stood.

She was probably waiting for you to make the first move. Did you try to touch her (hold hands/put arm round her), or attempt to kiss her? I remember being indecisive about kissing my wife for the first time. We were looking into each other's eyes, and then she just took the initiative and kissed me. The ice was broken on our second day together! My wife is a very modern woman and she was not waiting for me to prove that I was a 'real man'. That concept is not in her vocabulary (thank goodness).

Try not to be too rigid in your approach. FSU women are very different from British women, and are far more feminine in their character. That is what has always appealed to me about FSU dating. Good luck in your search.

[Boethius]

Reserved girls can be a pain as it's a case of are they reserved/conservative/moralistic or are they just nor into you. I tend to take if there is not the quick flirty eye movements and feeling of electricity then there's no chemistry. I get the impression that there are probably many FSW that are left single because they have it drilled into them to act moralistic etc or are naturally that way.

I don't think they realise that the high moralistic standards they prize so highly is what is screwing up their chances. For some reason they seem to think the guy should stay frigid around them for god knows how long till the moment of worthyness is obtained. I don't have time to play games where I don't know where I stand or how long I play for or don't know what I need do. Some say it is best to make a move on these moralistic girls but I am not for forcing myself on anyone. If they are not showing me interest then they are not interested is the way I take it and I move on.

Well Lviv does not seem too bad, looks like quote a few girls speak English, maybe as near Poland & EU, plus being a more European City in terms of architecture. I know a few words of Russian but to be honest it's probably so bad sounding that I would be better using the translator app on my phone. I think it just makes a horrible conversation of it me trying to shout out the odd no doubt badly pronounced Russian word to try to make her understand. To my mind if a girl gets peed of with the translator app then she is probably not interested as not the want to make it worK there.

Proof yet again that you know virtually nothing.  Ukraine and Russia are among the least moralistic, even the least moral societies, I have ever encountered.  That is what a socialist society in which religion was practically prohibited, and where informing on others for your own material benefit was encouraged, creates.  As for sexuality, it is not repressed.  But, you are a foreigner.  Foreigners come to Ukraine for less than noble purposes.  So you are always going to be suspect.


You also haven't done your homework.  On the streets of L'viv, everyone speaks Ukrainian, not Russian.  L'viv is the epicentre of Ukrainian nationalism.  As a foreigner, they will indulge your Russian, but really, you are out to lunch again.

[Trenchcoat]

I've looked up Ukrainian on my 'Before you know it' learning language app and for the most part the two seem to have identical words - they seem no real different to me. If girl asks me 'are you speaking Russian?' I will just reply 'no Ukrainian'

[Boethius]

I suggest the first thing you tell any woman you meet is that there is no difference between Ukrainian and Russian, therefore, you see no purpose in learning any Ukrainian.

[Trenchcoat]

I suggest the first thing you tell any woman you meet is that there is no difference between Ukrainian and Russian, therefore, you see no purpose in learning any Ukrainian.

Then why did you say they talk Ukrainian not Russian if there is no real difference?

[Boethius]

I didn’t say there was no difference. You did.

[Trenchcoat]

Then yes I will simply tell them there is no difference since I see none. I see no reason to pick hairs for the sake of it.

[krimster2]

"Don’t stop there. Let them know since there’s no difference, they should just stop the war and let Moscow rule them again"

and then drop your pants and show them "Peter the Great"

[myrddin]

I've looked up Ukrainian on my 'Before you know it' learning language app and for the most part the two seem to have identical words - they seem no real different to me. If girl asks me 'are you speaking Russian?' I will just reply 'no Ukrainian'

 


Of course Ukrainian=Russian.   When two things are the same, people use completely different words for them.


I was in Lviv a few months ago.  I do agree with your assessment that it is a more European city with a rich cultural heritage and some beautiful historical architecture.
 
I suspect you will have ample opportunity to explore that.

But, they say, every pot has a lid.

[Sting23]

Trench I gotta feeling this next trip of yours is gonna end bad.

[Anotherkiwi]

Most twin mobiles at the moment can only take two sins at the same time by putting one in the sd card slot - then you have nowhere to store your photos or use all apps until you replace it.

More absolute crap!  My dual SIM card phone has one port which takes BOTH a SIM card and an SD card - but the internal storage is big enough that I would not need to worry about an SD card anyway.  As for storing your photos - how many are YOU likely to take in 10 days while trying to score with 10 different women?  You won't have time to take any!  If you're that worried about storage, take your laptop or an external hard drive and transfer all your photos every day (of course you can leave the ones that you want to impress the women with).  That way you empty the phone's memory for the next lot of photos.

In which case you might as well just have a single sim phone and switch just the sim over if its a case of switching sim with sd card as in duel sim.

If you're going to do it this way you will need two phones anyway, so why not just get a dual SIM card phone?  You can leave your SD card in one slot if you have to, and just swap SIMs around in the other slot.  But, in any case, why are you going to need an SD card while you're away?  Just how many apps are you going to need to use?

Like the point I was making in Kyn trip report which you've just proved here, internet at airport cannot always be relied upon to make travel arrangements off or necessarily anything else. Not what you need after getting off a flight.

Which is why the second thing that you do when you get out of the baggage claim area (the first being getting at least SOME walking-around money) is get yourself a local SIM card.  In Australasia the different mobile operators have separate kiosks at the major airports, the idea being that you've already worked out from their websites which plan from which company will be the best for you, but at DME I only saw one place, which sold packs for all the operators (that may well have changed, since my last trip was nearly eight years ago).

I find that Google Chrome blocks a lot of them anyway so use Firefox in most airports now.

You're obviously looking at dodgy websites!

[msmob]

Most twin mobiles at the moment can only take two sins at the same time by putting one in the sd card slot - then you have nowhere to store your photos or use all apps until you replace it. In which case you might as well just have a single sim phone and switch just the sim over if its a case of switching sim with sd card as in duel sim.

1/ Many Dual Sim phone have huge memory built in and if you really were a seasoned traveller - you'd either have a proper camera - and / or have a Cloud account for images / videos..

2/ IF this 'teche excuse' was your 'riposte' then you just aren't clued up ..  You CAN use 2 sims and an SD card - you just need to READ ..and buy your phone in a country that sells dual sim phones - one you regularly go back to ...



Do you even know WHY dual sim mobiles are popular in (say) Russia ?

Like the point I was making in Kyn trip report which you've just proved here, internet at airport cannot always be relied upon to make travel arrangements off or necessarily anything else.

So, buying a local sim card - with data - makes more sense ... which is EXACTLY what I suggested ...

If staying at an airport on a layover - you cannot BUY a local sim - as they tend to be sold AFTER you clear passport  control / customs - so buy a daily package  from your home network - which is ultimately what I did (£5)

 It always works out cheaper to get a local sim - if you can

.. Not what you need after getting off a flight. I find that Google Chrome blocks a lot of them anyway so use Firefox in most airports now.

What ARE you talking about ? Google - like Firefox-  is quite configurable.. not that I'd want to use a non secure website. 

I'm beginning to think your daily commute is spent reading other's posts here or other folks travel reports ..    which become 'your own' .WHY ?  Your inane comments on the 'similarities' between Russian and Ukrainian

A language scientist suggests Ukrainian is as similar to Russian as Dutch is to English

The difference in vocabulary ( not Grammar - there are differences, too)   between Ukrainian and Russian languages is 38 lexical edits - it is 37 between Dutch and English - source Kostyntin Tischyenko (Костянтин Тищенко)

It's not that simple - but it's a demonstration that Trench  - once more - is talking out of his backside.

It is pointless you seeking a non English speaking partner ...  I speak FAR more Russian than you and still have days when we have to resort to a translator - lest we scream in frustration to be understood

Better you don't even TRY to speak Russian in Lviv - stick to your version of English

[BdHvA]

Trench Coat, I have had a twin SIM splashed Apple OS. It worked OK but my expirence is similiar to an official twin SIM foon is the same as Anotherkiwi and Moby.

And Trench can you answer the question that Moby posed, why do many people in the fSU have dual sim foons?

[Trenchcoat]

Trench Coat, I have had a twin SIM splashed Apple OS. It worked OK but my expirence is similiar to an official twin SIM foon is the same as Anotherkiwi and Moby.

And Trench can you answer the question that Moby posed, why do many people in the fSU have dual sim foons?

Well, I'm pretty happy with the phone I've got its a Samsung s5 Mini. Cost a couple of hundred or so when I bought it about 18 months ago. I've kind of got it set up nicely with the layout & all the files & info to had I need. Don't really want to spend out again just to get dus sim and perhaps less features in other departments. I haven't really got a problem with swaping sims as I'm not in the FSU loads. The network I am on only serve Europe, i.e the EU and it's nice and cheap for me as only pay £5 a month with enough data allowance to serve my needs. So a pay as you go sim in Ukraine would suit me well.

Now I'm guessing people in the FSU have dual sim so they can still communicate smoothly when they travel between Russia & Ukraine. They only then have to decide whether to speak Russian or Ukrainian, even though they are just the same

[Boethius]

Now I'm guessing people in the FSU have dual sim so they can still communicate smoothly when they travel between Russia & Ukraine.

Ukrainians can buy SIM cards that work in almost every country.

http://drimsim.com/