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Greetings from the US Midwest
« on: May 26, 2018, 10:42:04 AM »
 Hello,
I have been lurking here for the last few weeks. You see, I was married to an intelligent beautiful Russian Lady I met in the early 90s for 23 years, but now recently divorced. Im thinking about giving it a second try at 53 years of age. If nothing else I want to share advice with the many good people I have seen posting here since I have travelled extensively to Russia, and have experience with the people.

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2018, 10:47:55 AM »
"I was married to an intelligent beautiful Russian Lady I met in the early 90s for 23 years, but now recently divorced"

would you feel like sharing what went wrong with your marriage that led to divorce ,were there kids?
what part of the evil empire is your ex from?

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2018, 11:02:56 AM »
"I was married to an intelligent beautiful Russian Lady I met in the early 90s for 23 years, but now recently divorced"

would you feel like sharing what went wrong with your marriage that led to divorce ,were there kids?
what part of the evil empire is your ex from?

Hi Krimster
She is from Yekaterinburg, but with family in Moscow.
I think the marriage was a good one, I think we enjoyed the time together, but after our one child grew up and went to College my Ex wanted the independence to do what she wanted when she wanted and spend money on what was important to her.

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2018, 11:18:26 AM »
ohh great, I have 2 teen girls who are about to embark on their college journey
hope my wife doesn't get crazy!

hopefully your divorce left you in reasonable financial condition
you know having been there that ya gotta pay to play

if you're not picky about age, and if you're going to pass on more kids
a lot of 40 yr olds to pick from, some of them pretty hot looking for 40

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2018, 11:46:08 AM »
ohh great, I have 2 teen girls who are about to embark on their college journey
hope my wife doesn't get crazy!

hopefully your divorce left you in reasonable financial condition
you know having been there that ya gotta pay to play

if you're not picky about age, and if you're going to pass on more kids
a lot of 40 yr olds to pick from, some of them pretty hot looking for 40

Kimster
You will be fine if you spend time with her

The warning sign I missed was when she changed her set of close friends to divorced ladies. I think If I would have stepped in and spent more time with her and steered her back to our married friends things would have been OK. Instead I played lots of golf, and she was a golf widow.

I would like to find a nice 40ish European Lady

 



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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2018, 12:05:26 PM »
I spend a lot of time with my wife, I'm a partner in her business (skin salon)
I also work at home on my own businesses, so I (and with pleasure) helped raise our 2 daughters
who are the true love of my life
now they are both talking about medical school
so bachelor degree is now called pre-med
and I will have to come up with $250,000 for medical school
for each...

there went the condo and dock in Newport, Oregon...
i'm never gonna get the sail boat I always dreamed about, never...
 

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2018, 12:29:58 PM »
I spend a lot of time with my wife, I'm a partner in her business (skin salon)
I also work at home on my own businesses, so I (and with pleasure) helped raise our 2 daughters
who are the true love of my life
now they are both talking about medical school
so bachelor degree is now called pre-med
and I will have to come up with $250,000 for medical school
for each...

there went the condo and dock in Newport, Oregon...
i'm never gonna get the sail boat I always dreamed about, never...

If your children can get into a US Med School, just do loans. There is a shortage of Doctors, and out of residency they can easily get a position that will pay off those loans. It might mean working in a rural setting for a few years, but its worth it.

What you need though is a good University that will help your daughters score well enough on the MCATs to get into a US Med School. Here in the Midwest, about 30k/yr will suffice for undergrad.  If they cant get into a US Med school, figure a Caribbean Med School will cost about 100k each

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2018, 12:57:21 PM »
looking at Rice or Baylor for medical school maybe undrgrad as well, pricey
school loans carry an extreme interest rate wouldn't want to do that
was going to use the 401k for condo/boat
was...

but will be happy if they're docs
it means they'll marry well
and I'll have grandchildren to entertain
someday..

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2018, 01:47:22 PM »
Caribbean med schools are subpar.  The "best" Caribbean med schools have a residency match rate of 70%, compared to 94% for US schools, plus it is almost impossible to match to competitive residencies.
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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2018, 03:09:48 PM »
Welcome, GenMish!

I should think you'd have interesting perspectives on a number of things.
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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2018, 05:50:15 PM »
so GenMish

how much travel time can you manage to get?
this is pretty much best time to be in FSU right now

since you're familiar with Ekateringberg
will you return or go elsewhere

i am an ardent advocate for hunting in Ukraine

simpler visa
cheaper
there are some totally untapped hunting grounds

a guy your age can easily date 35+ yr olds with no problem
these women are completely undatable in Ukraine
you will have no competition
your blue passport would be considered as good as gold by the right woman
in other words you won't have to chase them as much as be chased by them
if you like a certain kind of woman
a professional of some kind with an advanced degree
i've met phds in chemistry biology, ecology, math
who were drop dead gorgeous and had no dates
and gave me the best sex I ever had in my life (with the possible exception to this being my wife)

my personal attorney in sevastopol was a woman 32 yr old
never married
beautiful girl, dark brown hair, green eyes, about 5'4", perfect figure
had one date in 5 yr, she said she couldn't find anyone and begged me to set her up with a friend
IMHO the kind of woman for you
and they are everywhere in any big city in Ukraine


you might be able to go younger but it will be risky
you sure you want to get married again?
if I were your age and single I'd consider "keeping" a woman there
having dual residency
and don't bring her to usa with usa divorce laws
ya feel me...



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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2018, 07:19:19 PM »
a lot of arrangements are possible with relationships in Ukraine because the odds are so MUCH in your favor there.

before I was married, I did a sabbatical in Kyiv and set up a software development company there
my first employee was what I called a “facilitator”
besides being a translator, they have to do things like stand in line to pay bills
fill in all paperwork, and help setup a small office, and be my “front" in negotiations
$500 month was a good salary in 1996 for such a person
the first time I paid my first facilitator her monthly salary
she started shaking and crying...

I met her at St Michael’s in Kyiv
she could tell I was a foreigner
she spoke to me first in German
and I replied, ich bin eine Amerikaner”
and she replied in awesome english with nearly no accent
she was cute with short blond hair like a little blond elf and big blue eyes
she asked where I was from and I said Mountain View California
also known as silicon valley
we talked about computers
she got her masters degree in linguistics the previous year
I asked her out to lunch
and she accepted
by the end of lunch I had hired her
the next day I get a knock on my apartment door
it’s her with a bunch of pots and pans
she decides just like that, that being my assistant also means making my meals!
she was sly
she slowly started moving in with me
and after about 2 weeks
she just stayed and we went and got her clothes together
and brought them back
it was comforting after working together all day
to just lay in bed naked together and hold each other while watching tv
she was so sweet and innocent
i’m sure we “loved” each other
but our relationship was one of convenience only
we never talked of our future
she knew the exact day i’d be leaving
and when I no longer needed a facilitator
she said goodbye and I never saw her again

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2018, 08:08:57 AM »
Thank you for the Welcome Myrrdin. I have enjoyed your postings while lurking these past few weeks.

Thank you for the advice on Ukraine Krimster, and I would like to explore those possibilities. Getting visas for Russia was never my favorite thing to do.  Is there a region of the Ukraine I should consider over others? as you said 'untapped' hunting grounds.  Which is the best website to start making contacts?

btw...In 1993, I went with a small agency that specialized in the Urals, really just a woman that had many contacts throughout the area. She introduced me to several wonderful women, all 8s, 9s, and 10s. But that agency closed down about 20 years ago. The woman that ran it was older then, so Im not sure she is even around any longer

It appears the main ways people are using now is
1) Socials
2) Online Dating Sites with unlimited contacts, the strategy after texting to Skype
3) Anything else?

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2018, 08:52:43 AM »
you have to understand what an “agency” is
an agency is a business entity designed to make its OWNER a profit
by selling YOU something
the purpose of the agency is for the owner and not you

go get it yourself with no middleman
big difference for you between 20 yr ago and today is scammers
much more scammers now
so if you use an agency you spend most of your time on this issue

everyone’s hoping that taking shortcuts like agencies will work out for them
and it’s possible, but agencies have become a feeding ground for sharks

Crimea used to be the perfect hunting ground, there was a large number of agricultural labor settlements built during the soviet period that are still there, but agriculture in Crimea has disappeared.  average “house” in these villages is a 3 room shack with no indoor toilette in about 50% of residences, with mud streets, average monthly household income about $200-$400
no car in household
you’ll see these girls out walking, sometimes there’s no store in their village, so their parents send them out to the next village on foot to get daily groceries
just the most lovely young girls you could ever imagine
so natural, no makeup, wearing mamas or grandmas old clothes
most have never met a foreigner

I’ve taken girls like this to Istanbul clothes shopping
and then down to Mamaris
they are so young, so eager
you can mould them into whatever you want

there are other agricultural areas in Ukraine
that will similar agricultural labor settlements
30 min on google will show you

they’re kindof like lost puppies
very fun to play with
but when you start thinking about keeping them is when you run into issues


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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2018, 09:42:40 AM »
The warning sign I missed was when she changed her set of close friends to divorced ladies. I think If I would have stepped in and spent more time with her and steered her back to our married friends things would have been OK. Instead I played lots of golf, and she was a golf widow.


Welcome to the forum GenMish. Sorry to hear your first marriage with a RW didn't work out. We continually make mistakes and people change. Doesn't mean we're bad, just means we're being human.

Young women want a man who loves them more than their car. Old women wants a man who loves them more than golf.  ;)
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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2018, 02:46:07 PM »
you might be able to go younger but it will be risky
you sure you want to get married again?
if I were your age and single I'd consider "keeping" a woman there
having dual residency
and don't bring her to usa with usa divorce laws
ya feel me...

Now you're talking my language Krimster ;D

I think ideally if possible FSW are best kept in their own habitat also. Take them out off that setting and they no longer necessarily look up to you. Western society can also be a bad influence I think.

Myself I think about an 8 for a FSW is about as high as I would prefer to go. 9s & 10s are most likely to be dodgy and even if not loads if guys would be interested in her both in the FSW and even more so in the west in my opinion.

I hear Ukraine doesn't recognise any other nationality than its own for its citizens but they don't prohibit dual nationality. Whether this amounts to anything or is just pointless point making I've no idea.

As a sidenote I'm not sure I see the point of paying $250k for med school Krimster. Probably more financially sound for them to start their own business perhaps. I mean what if they find the going too hard, get fed up, decide they want to do something else, fail the course, etc it would be a load of money down the crapper. Worst case of course if a student didn't passed away in life early, then a lot of money spent, if on an unsecured loan then perhaps not so bad in that instance. Not sure how it would mean someone marries well either, a bit Jane Austen sounding to me.

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2018, 02:55:58 PM »
I think ideally if possible FSW are best kept in their own habitat also. Take them out off that setting and they no longer necessarily look up to you. Western society can also be a bad influence I think.
:puke: :puke: :puke:


They won't "look up to you" in Ukraine, either.  Your attitudes toward women will always defeat you. 
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I hear Ukraine doesn't recognise any other nationality than its own for its citizens but they don't prohibit dual nationality.


Wrong again. 


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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2018, 02:57:20 PM »
To the OP - moby has a post here with the photos of three women in their forties who are looking for husbands.  You could search his posts, or PM him, as at the very least, those women are sincere.
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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2018, 04:24:58 PM »
Krimster
Thank You for the wonderful advice.
I will start exploring my options. Any advice you have would be greatly appreaciated

Hello Billy, yes I think I goof'd
I thought she didn't mind my time away playing golf

Hi Boethius
I did a member search for moby, and didnt find a member with that name. Can you post a link?

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2018, 07:31:49 PM »
there went the condo and dock in Newport, Oregon...
i'm never gonna get the sail boat I always dreamed about, never...

Something like this?

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2008/Morris-48-3144145/Mamaroneck/NY/United-States?refSource=standard%20listing#.WwtU8sgh1sY
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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2018, 07:41:47 PM »
GenMish,

Welcome to this forum.

Love is timeless but attitudes and realities do change.

I would carefully consider if you want to do round two. But certainly I think it is possible to find a woman from the former Soviet Union. And yes I would consider women aged 35 + if you wish to prosecute this search.

ANYTHING that a poster called Trenchcoat posts should be read and discarded. He is an outlier and challenged.

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2018, 08:25:43 PM »


ANYTHING that a poster called Trenchcoat posts should be read and discarded. He is an outlier and challenged.

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2018, 02:55:59 AM »
Hello GenMish, welcome to this forum. Apologies on behalf of the UK for Trenchcoat's pearls of wisdom, as illustrated by the following classic comment ...

I think ideally if possible FSW are best kept in their own habitat also. Take them out off that setting and they no longer necessarily look up to you. Western society can also be a bad influence I think.

@Trenchcoat What do you mean by this statement? Are you now planning to leave any FSUW wife of yours in Ukraine? BTW marriage is
a partnership of equals, and so no wife should be expected to look up to her husband!

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Re: Greetings from the US Midwest
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2018, 05:30:45 AM »
Thank you for the link Boethuis

Thank You for the warm welcomes Blighty , Bdhva

I guess things have changed since round one. My friend went 9 months before I did in 93. He returned with a beautiful sweet girl, that convinced me to go. I met my Ex wife the first trip, I think she was my 3 rd introduction. Then another friend of ours went, and found a Spouse. That little agency was 3 for 3 with us, and when I was there another man from NY. All 4 of us married. 2 have now divorced, 1 still married, the last fellow from NY, I lost track of over the years.

I like Kimsters reply having a wingman. The fellow from NY that was there when I was, sure helped me. It was nice to have a like minded person to talk to after introductions and dates. Anyone wants to be my wingman, let me know

 

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