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Mail Order Bride Survey
« on: July 15, 2008, 11:27:12 AM »
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International Relations and GoodWife

Press Release July 15, 2008

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT!

International Relations and GoodWife.com announce the most important new initiative since IMBRA. To put to rest many of the nagging and unanswered questions raised by various feminist organizations, and others with ignorant or malicious agendas, the first comprehensive Mail Order Bride Survey is now available to address issues of Cross-Cultural Marriage and Divorce. The online URL where the survey may be found is here -- http://www.goodwife.com/survey/index.php?sid=24353〈=en

Construction of the Survey

While the survey requires only 15 minutes to complete the questions, the survey design required several months of meticulous attention and re-design. It involved professional researchers from three universities - Depaul, Georgia State University, and Notre Dame, as well as review by several notable immigration attorneys and others active in the field of international dating and marriage. Do not be fooled by the economy of questions. With only 20 questions, we will be able to address issues such as:

  • Divorce rate of cross-cultural marriages.
  • Top 'N' causes of divorce in cross-cultural marriages
  • Age difference contribution to divorce rate
  • Education level influence on divorce rate
  • Income level influence on divorce rate
  • Influence of children of a former marriage on divorce rate
  • Influence of youth on divorce rate (if younger when married, it increases divorce rate - maybe)
  • Mean, Median, Mode of length of cross-cultural marriages that fail
  • Influence of short courtship on divorce
  • Influence of IMB on divorce rate
  • Many other answers

The 'End Game'

The target number of valid responses is 5,000. It is expected that we will need to disqualify some percentage of responses, hence, we are seeking a population of at least 6,500 responses to achieve a target of 5,000 valid responses.

Once we have received the necessary number of valid responses, we will engage a third-party to certify the overall survey results as valid. Upon completion of the validated results, a final report will be released.

If you have any questions, please visit our Frequently Asked Questions page, and visit us at RussianWomenDiscussion.com or Planet-Love.com where I will be posting this announcement and fielding questions from our members.

Copyright (C) 2008 International Relations All rights reserved.
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 11:41:05 AM »
My first qualm: the survey requires that I provide my first name, last name and e-mail. I would prefer to remain anonymous. Is my anonymity guaranteed?

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 11:45:38 AM »
My first qualm: the survey requires that I provide my first name, last name and e-mail. I would prefer to remain anonymous. Is my anonymity guaranteed?

Yes, anonymity is assured. I believe it even states that in the welcome text. The email is so that a 'token' can be passed to insure valid results. One of the concerns is that we want to prevent as much obvious abuse of the survey as possible - for instance, someone taking the survey repeatedly.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 11:59:59 AM »
A security code box was present when registering.  I just left it blank, received the register confirmation email and completed the survey successfully.

Right after hitting the submit button when registering, saw the following error at the top of the page:

Notice: Undefined index: secanswer in /home/goodwife/public_html/survey/register.php on line 51

Using Firefox 3.0.1 for linux (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071222 Firefox/3.0.1)


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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 12:03:26 PM »
A security code box was present when registering.  I just left it blank, received the register confirmation email and completed the survey successfully.

Right after hitting the submit button when registering, saw the following error at the top of the page:

Notice: Undefined index: secanswer in /home/goodwife/public_html/survey/register.php on line 51

Using Firefox 3.0.1 for linux (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071222 Firefox/3.0.1)



Looking into it.

Thanks for the notice.

Till now, we were always working with the survey in 'inactive' mode. Seems a few 'bugs' now that it is 'live'.

- Dan

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 02:02:33 PM »
I am surprised that professional researchers from universities as well as immigration attorneys could not come up with any better title for this survey than the humiliating Mail Order Bride.   :thumbsdown:

Why could not they name this survey as Cross-Cultural Marriages Survey?
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 02:11:29 PM »
I am surprised that professional researchers from universities as well as immigration attorneys could not come up with any better title for this survey than the humiliating Mail Order Bride.   :thumbsdown:

Why could not they name this survey as Cross-Cultural Marriages Survey?

That is a VERY good question - and one I just answered in an email. Here is my reply:

I am certain the title and use of MOB term will incite some. They need to understand that, to be effective, this survey MUST collect a very large number of respondents. To accomplish THAT, we need the widest possible coverage - and to accomplish THAT, the MOB is the best term to use. More BTW - I would also like to incite the feminazi crowd to jump all over this. Bottom line is - we need respondents - a LOT of them. With enough, there is no way any one group can manipulate the results - and that is the objectivity I seek.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 02:34:38 PM »
A Hardcopy of the survey is attached to this message. It may be downloaded and completed manually, then faxed in to record results.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 05:42:29 PM »
I for one would like to thank Dan for all his efforts in putting together the most comprehensive survey possible.  I have an idea of how much work and thought you put into this and I hope you get your anticipated results.  It is high time someone puts together some data that has some sense of respectability on the subject.  Great job Dan!!!!!!!!!!!
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Now people, fill out these surveys!!!!!!!!!!!!  Dan needs numbers to make this thing valid!
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 06:04:22 PM »
One comment: question A010 asks whether we were married previously to someone from our culture. What if a person married twice and both times were cross-cultural?

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 06:12:32 PM »
One comment: question A010 asks whether we were married previously to someone from our culture. What if a person married twice and both times were cross-cultural?

The survey asks for the one marriage that resulted in immigration to a new country. If *both* marriages resulted in immigration, then it is up to the respondent to select one.

Yeah - there are bound to be a few percent of highly-unusual cases. The best we can do is strive to capture the vast majority of more 'normal' situations.

Thanks for asking the question.

And keep 'em coming. Ya know, it is just possible we managed to overlook some critical element that would undermine our efforts. Best to catch it now, than after a few weeks go by and a few thousand responses are invalidated.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2008, 07:48:35 AM »
My first qualm: the survey requires that I provide my first name, last name and e-mail. I would prefer to remain anonymous. Is my anonymity guaranteed?

Misha,

Here is the notice from the survey tool that assures anonymity:

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A Note On Privacy
This survey is anonymous.
The record kept of your survey responses does not contain any identifying information about you unless a specific question in the survey has asked for this. If you have responded to a survey that used an identifying token to allow you to access the survey, you can rest assured that the identifying token is not kept with your responses. It is managed in a separate database, and will only be updated to indicate that you have (or haven't) completed this survey. There is no way of matching identification tokens with survey responses in this survey.

HOWEVER - people taking the survey will not see this notice until they complete the survey and are ready to submit their answers to the database. I agree that it would be best if this notice were moved to the start of taking the survey - to allay any concerns at the outset.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2008, 07:53:25 AM »
A security code box was present when registering.  I just left it blank, received the register confirmation email and completed the survey successfully.

Right after hitting the submit button when registering, saw the following error at the top of the page:

Notice: Undefined index: secanswer in /home/goodwife/public_html/survey/register.php on line 51

Using Firefox 3.0.1 for linux (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071222 Firefox/3.0.1)

BC,

From the token list (see previous post), I can see those who have completed the survey, and those who have not. It seems that, in spite of the message you received, the system accepted your entries and you successfully completed the survey.

We now have more than 80 completed surveys from more than 100 people who are registered, and I have one other report of an error. Largely, the tool seems to be working well.

Just FYI.

- Dan


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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2008, 09:36:52 AM »
I have filled the survey, but I see that the option that is available in some countries to live together without marriage is not included.
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 09:58:54 AM »
I have filled the survey, but I see that the option that is available in some countries to live together without marriage is not included.


True statement. Since the focus of the survey is on Marriage and Divorce, it follows that those 'events' are necessary for the results to be valid.

By that I mean - since one of our principal objectives was to generate data/stats about divorce rate, the person needs to be married first to then later be divorced (or not). In those countries where living together is possible, if the couple decided to split, there is (presumably) no formal divorce proceeding and likely that the traumas (and stigmas) of divorce are not attached to the break-up - at least, not to the same extent.

Anyway - that was the thinking.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2008, 10:24:58 AM »
True statement. Since the focus of the survey is on Marriage and Divorce, it follows that those 'events' are necessary for the results to be valid.

By that I mean - since one of our principal objectives was to generate data/stats about divorce rate, the person needs to be married first to then later be divorced (or not). In those countries where living together is possible, if the couple decided to split, there is (presumably) no formal divorce proceeding and likely that the traumas (and stigmas) of divorce are not attached to the break-up - at least, not to the same extent.

Anyway - that was the thinking.

- Dan
As under Dutch law there is an equality between married and non-married in laws, apart from some financial support the full traumas might apply. A non-married couple has the status of a married couple, and all assets gained during the time of living together are common, unless otherwise registered.  Only the financial support of the ex-partner has less hooks than the ex-spouse.
However as it will be compared to the majority of the survey an odd-case, I see no problem in your thinking.

I hope that your definition of an IMB included dating sites without extended services on purpose. Sites like bride.ru are marriage brokers in a way that they provide a platform for meeting and communications, and there for anyone using such sites should reply YES to using an IMB.
In general this is a deviation from the common practice where dating sites are not seen as agency. However I do agree with the definition.
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 10:54:56 AM »
As under Dutch law there is an equality between married and non-married in laws, apart from some financial support the full traumas might apply. A non-married couple has the status of a married couple, and all assets gained during the time of living together are common, unless otherwise registered.  Only the financial support of the ex-partner has less hooks than the ex-spouse.
However as it will be compared to the majority of the survey an odd-case, I see no problem in your thinking.

I hope that your definition of an IMB included dating sites without extended services on purpose. Sites like bride.ru are marriage brokers in a way that they provide a platform for meeting and communications, and there for anyone using such sites should reply YES to using an IMB.
In general this is a deviation from the common practice where dating sites are not seen as agency. However I do agree with the definition.

I think if the couple lives in a jurisdiction where laws allow informal unions, then it is up to them to determine the dates of comparable events of 'marriage' and 'divorce'.

As for definition of IMB, as I recall, we took the exact definition from either IMBRA, or one of the legal proceedings that have challenged IMBRA. I'll go back and find the specific citation, but it was intentional that we used a definition created by others.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2008, 03:46:54 PM »
A quick status report.

Slightly more than 24 hours after I posted the survey notice here at RWD and PL - and a bit less than 24 hours after an email announcement was sent - we have at the moment 121 survey responses.

There is a press release scheduled in a few hours that is likely to not have an immediate effect, but will build momentum over a few weeks.

We are underway.

Thanks to those already completing the survey - and to anyone not yet taking it - PLEASE spend the 15 minutes (or less) required to add your survey to the database.

Finally, an appeal - PLEASE send the survey URL (webpage) to anyone and everyone you know. If you have groups that gather in your area, please make sure THEY all know about this - call them, write them, do whatever. Please take a few minutes to urge your friends/colleagues/partners/associates - anyone that fits the demographic we seek to complete the survey.

- Dan

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2008, 01:40:50 PM »
Dan I think I understand the rationale for calling it "Mail Order Bride" survey, because that's the banner that feminists use to attack international marriages. So, they say, "mail order bride" is abusive, trafficking, etc. Then this will reveal the truth that "Mail order bride" is predominately consenting adults establishing good relations. Probably as stable overall as domestic relaitonships.

Just the other day, my wife and I were in Kinkos making some copies of some of her paintings (she's a good artist!), and a woman got into a discussion with her. The woman was pleasant, nice woman, and was thoroughly charmed with Ulyana. But then about 2/3 into the conversation, she said, "Oh, so you're one of those mail order brides!" My wife was a little offended, but she didn't say anything, of course. However, it shows two things: what a catchy "soundbite " it is, and that's what people have been told all this international marriage is about.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2008, 09:16:29 PM »
Well this is kind of interesting. I got an email from a site "goodwife" asking me to take this survey. I don't recall ever visiting the site but you know how that goes. Anyway I looked at the site for a minute and the MOB and in the survey combined with the request for personal info and hit the don't send me any more mail button and a comment about the MOB name in the survey. So, this is a legitimate survey?

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2008, 09:36:15 PM »
Well this is kind of interesting. I got an email from a site "goodwife" asking me to take this survey. I don't recall ever visiting the site but you know how that goes. Anyway I looked at the site for a minute and the MOB and in the survey combined with the request for personal info and hit the don't send me any more mail button and a comment about the MOB name in the survey. So, this is a legitimate survey?

Brian,

Sorry for the confusion. GoodWife is one of our affiliate sites - and yes, it is a legitimate survey.

What was the "request for personal information"? Do you mean the opening page of the survey - when it asks for name and email?

There are a few people who did not complete the first/last name fields - and so long as they include a valid email, they are still able to take the survey.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2008, 09:20:56 AM »
Quick Update Stats on the MOB Survey:

As of 19July2008, 12:16 PM EDT, we have 163 responses to the MOB Survey. Of those, 121 are fully-completed, and 42 are partially-completed.

13% of respondents are female - 87% are male.

Some interesting results from the current stats, but with such a small sample, they are not yet reliable.

PLEASE - tell all your friends. Call them. Write them. Let them know about this survey and its importance. I have been surprised in talking with friends here locally that SHOULD already know about it - and they do not! Make sure everyone you know is aware of the survey, and encourage them to complete it ASAP.

Thanks!

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2008, 08:33:48 AM »
It has come to my attention that a certain excommunicated member of RWD has made several baseless allegations to disparage the integrity of the MOB Survey. Specifically, they allege that the MOB Survey is designed to harvest email addresses, and that the email notice about the MOB Survey was SPAM.

Addressing the SPAM allegation first. We were careful to employ a script that makes it possible for anyone to unsubscribe from the mailing list at any time. We honor those requests faithfully. Any allegations of SPAM are fallacious and disparaging on the face.

As for the allegation of email harvesting, I should first point out that the antagonist making the allegation clearly has no real knowledge of the worth of an email list. The value of 5,000 email addresses, when spammers send out millions of emails per hour, is essentially nil. Much more importantly, the antagonist making that allegation fails to recognize that we posted a downloadable hardcopy version of the survey right here within a few hours of the survey commencement. Moreover, there is a page available in which the survey form may be downloaded by anyone (no email address required), found here -- http://www.goodwife.com/index.php?pid=47.

If anyone has any further questions or concerns, please feel free to post them here, or send me an email.

- Dan
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2008, 05:22:48 PM »
Dan

Survey completed

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2008, 06:10:50 PM »
Dan

Survey completed

Brian

Thanks Brian.

And please spread the word.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2008, 05:23:51 AM »
Hey Everyone!

Quick Update on the Survey for Cross-Cultural Marriage and Divorce.

We now have nearly 700 respondents to the survey. The proportion of men to women is still running at about 10% women and 90% men.

If anyone would like to receive notification of the survey results when they are completed, please subscribe here -- http://goodwife.com/phplist/?p=subscribe&id=1. Of course, I will keep everyone posted about the survey status here at RWD, and at PL.

If you have not completed the survey, please do so now - and importantly (I will sound like a 'broken record') - please spread the word!

- Dan

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2008, 05:49:45 AM »
Although I am no longer a member of Elena's models, my profile still remains. Today I received an email from them asking me to participate in this survey. Since I am not married, I cannot. It appears they are working with RWD to gather as many participants as possible.
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2008, 06:01:23 AM »
Although I am no longer a member of Elena's models, my profile still remains. Today I received an email from them asking me to participate in this survey. Since I am not married, I cannot. It appears they are working with RWD to gather as many participants as possible.

Elena has been incredibly supportive. Judging from the responses I have received from her mailing, she and her agency are VERY well-respected.

I have asked AFA to also participate, but no positive response as yet.

I have also asked other agencies to work with me, and am continuing to push them.

All of YOU who have 'connection' with these agencies can help. Contact them and ask them to participate by notifying their past and current customers.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2008, 07:25:48 AM »
One more quick update as we crossed a milestone!

We now have more than 1,000 registered respondents! Since the survey allows a respondent to partially complete the survey and then later return to complete it, there is some difference between the number of completed responses (now more than 800) and the number of people who have registered.

It is worth noting that we have also receiving some faxed surveys. Those seem to be coming in from respondent's who have a slightly unusual circumstance - such as more than one cross-cultural marriage to report.

As I wrote earlier - please spread the word. Let all your friends in the AM/RW communities know about this important survey.

- Dan
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2008, 07:17:18 PM »
Dan,
Your statistical sample seems plenty large enough now that anymore replies should not alter the results.  When will you compile and let us see the results?
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2008, 08:23:55 PM »
Dan,
Your statistical sample seems plenty large enough now that anymore replies should not alter the results.  When will you compile and let us see the results?

Ronnie,

The folks who know much more about this stuff than I do, tell me that we cannot divulge the stats until we have a statistically valid population. Our target remains to gather 6500 responses, and we are now approaching 2000. Still have some ways to go.

I anticipate the survey being another month or two in the data collection stage.

I am working to get the templates produced now, so that when the data gathering is completed, it will be quick to compile and present results.

Sorry for the suspense, but the pace of data gathering has been actually a bit quicker than originally anticipated - largely due to the support of Elena Petrova (Elena's Models). If you missed the Press Release, here is a link to it -- http://www.prweb.com/releases/russian/brides/prweb1195854.htm.

- Dan

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2008, 09:14:24 PM »
Well okay, if that's what they say.  You are right now at a margin of error of less than 3%.  Maybe there are other reasons they want such a large sample size.
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2008, 08:04:12 PM »
I have been sent an email, it looks like it might have been from Dan to participate
in this survey. But since I'm not married or haven't been married to an RW I don't
see how I could help by taking the survey.

Just my two kopecks,

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2008, 08:11:31 PM »
I have been sent an email, it looks like it might have been from Dan to participate
in this survey. But since I'm not married or haven't been married to an RW I don't
see how I could help by taking the survey.

Just my two kopecks,

Bill

Bill,

Yes, I sent a blast to all our members encouraging them to participate - either by taking the survey (if they meet the target demographic), or by encouraging others to participate.

We are making good progress toward meeting our goal of a large number of respondents. We have begun the process to select an independent expert to review the process from start to finish and assemble the results and report.

The main thing right now, is to gather enough data so that the results are solid, hence, my email and appeal to everyone to help out.

Spread the word.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2008, 11:48:36 PM »
Ok, I'll spread the word

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2008, 04:18:01 AM »
I am surprised that professional researchers from universities as well as immigration attorneys could not come up with any better title for this survey than the humiliating Mail Order Bride.   :thumbsdown:

Why could not they name this survey as Cross-Cultural Marriages Survey?
The first thing I've got stuck is this Title- Mail order bride.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2008, 05:01:43 AM »
The first thing I've got stuck is this Title- Mail order bride.

Doll,

The formal title of the survey is: "Survey of Cross-Cultural Marriage and Divorce"

As stated upthread, the use of the phrase 'Mail Order Bride' is to attract attention. For years I lobbied with the former owner of the Planet-Love site to change the name of the site and get rid of the use of the 'Mail Order Bride' phrase. Now, I understand why it is/was used. It is an undeniable fact that many people find us by searching on that specific phrase. Between the media and the politicos who seek either sensationalism or 'spin' - the MOB phrase is recognized, and used, by the vast majority of the population.

THAT is the reason you will see reference to this as the 'Mail Order Bride Survey'.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2008, 11:20:30 AM »
My daughter, as young adult, said to me when I began my wife search in the FSU that she heard that Russian women could be purchased from a catalog at prices starting at $1,000.

I would like to see this site and others, go on a campaign to stamp out the use of the demeaning terminology. Writing letters to editors, etc.

While it may attract attention, it also perpetuates myths and negative stereotypes which affect our families.
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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2008, 12:14:44 PM »
I will have to say I have run across very few AW who have issues with RW.  I wonder if different areas of the USA is different.  The AW I find who have issues tend to have issues with good looking or successful AW as well - so its more of a hate all women thing.  But my dealings with AW are more in the midwest.  Fact most AW I meet think its very romantic what we do travelling across the globe.

That being said overweight guys who are not rich marrying a much younger model like girl is going to get gossip no matter what country this woman comes from.  I do think a lot of guys go overseas to get a much better wife than they can get at home and take advantage of economics situation in Russia / Ukraine.  You notice there are more and more women this year in the agencies.  Reason is Russia / Ukraine economy really is bad with inflation. 

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2008, 12:25:44 PM »
My daughter, as young adult, said to me when I began my wife search in the FSU that she heard that Russian women could be purchased from a catalog at prices starting at $1,000.

I would like to see this site and others, go on a campaign to stamp out the use of the demeaning terminology. Writing letters to editors, etc.

While it may attract attention, it also perpetuates myths and negative stereotypes which affect our families.

Ronnie,

You probably already visited one of our other sites - www.GoodWife.com. It contains numerous references to "Mail Order Bride/s", and is arguably, the number one site on the internet for that search phrase (as well as numerous others). The site has a Home Page created largely by a member of our management team, and contains elements of jest, parody, sarcasm, and more than a small amount of truth. The Home Page here at RWD was patterned after some of the GoodWife page - and it was so popular at least one other site has 'borrowed' the text nearly intact (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - OR - a clear and distinct indication of an addled mind incapable of original thought, as in this case).

We could do as you suggest - and the result would be that in a VERY short time, we would lose the position in the search engines, and there would be only a fraction of the people finding us that do now.

It comes down to simple practicalities. We draw the line at promoting our site as having content like: "Hot Russian mail order brides" or "Free Russian woman" (as that copycat site does) - but the simple use of the MOB phraseology is one of the factors that results in GoodWife and RWD being, by a VERY large distance, the most popular and vibrant sites in this niche of the internet space.

That popularity is also one of the reasons we attract shrill attention and mimicry from the jealous wannabee's. So be it.

The road to overcoming negative stereotypes is through demonstrating that we, here at RWD, are composed of members that are rational, intelligent, balanced, caring and 'normal' in nearly every aspect. If there are differences from the 'norm' - it is in our spirit of adventure and thinking in ways that considers options not occurring to others ('possibility thinking' - a GOOD thing). That already stands in stark contrast to most other sites of this sort on the 'net which are largely populated with petty, judgmental, and often cretinous individuals and owners.

- Dan

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2008, 04:15:33 PM »
Dan, where are the results of the survey to date?  Or, could you provide the link to see the results of the survey?  Thanks 
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« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2008, 05:35:34 PM »
Dan, where are the results of the survey to date?  Or, could you provide the link to see the results of the survey?  Thanks 

Bruce,

I have been advised to not release any interim results. We have collected about one-third of the target number of respondents, so I expect we will need some weeks/months of data collection before we can perform the analysis and then publish the results.

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Re: Mail Order Bride Survey
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2009, 12:01:17 PM »
Bruce,

I have been advised to not release any interim results. We have collected about one-third of the target number of respondents, so I expect we will need some weeks/months of data collection before we can perform the analysis and then publish the results.

- Dan

The results are now available and may be found here -- http://www.goodwife.com/survey/xcultural_p01.html

Enjoy!

- Dan

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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2009, 03:20:23 PM »
Fascinating stuff with quite a few surprises!

Great work Dan.   :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

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« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2010, 01:35:16 AM »
 :selfharm: Nagging questions by the feminist group?!!!
put 'em all to rest now.. Why don't they just join in  ;D
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:selfharm: Nagging questions by the feminist group?!!!
put 'em all to rest now.. Why don't they just join in  ;D

>>Why don't they just join in<<

That have - and they do.

Welcome aboard Angel Heart. Would you be so kind as to make an introduction and let us know more about you and why you are here? The Introductions forum is here -- http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?board=41.0, and we look forward to learning more about you and how we may be able to help.

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