The Russian Invasion of Ukraine-The Real Nazis

[JayH]

The reasonable people on the forums can see very clearly the attempt by Russia to invade Ukraine with paid thugs from all over Russia-- those also recruited for payment in Ukraine itself -- and then backed by the "green men" .
In particular in the  rallies across Ukraine it has been these paid thugs at the centre of starting real violence.
Interestingly enough--when so many were killed in the Odessa fire-- and who are identifiable as not being Ukrainian citizens--within 48 hours Putin was back pedaling and distancing himself-- the reality and extent of that we are yet to see .Perhaps it was the fact that Ukrainians showed they would fight back that has deterred the lying bully Putin-- maybe he is actually scared to fight?
Piece by piece the intruders are being identified--here is an example-- more to come.

From St. Petersburg under the guise of a resident of Odessa demanded adherence to the Russian
People social network "Facebook" was identified by a photograph of one of the participants in the pro-Russian rally in Odessa, which was held on March 23. Odessite role, calling for adherence to Odessa RF, played Petersburgian Anton Raevskii. He is a member ogranizatsii "Black Hundreds." As can be seen from his channel on YouTube, copy the style of organization of Nazi Germany. Anton himself has tattoos on his hands with Nazi slogans.

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[Patagonie]

That is one of the more interesting side of Ukraine deciding now to fight :
We are perhaps going to know more about those "pro" russians.
THey are hidden behing some uniform and balaclava.
But the fact is that corpses will speak more than the living.


And when Russia (propaganda) speaks about the "nazis of Kiev", it's the pot calling the kettle black.

[JayH]

The 42 killed in Odessa have now been identified and named.More to come on where many non Ukrainians came from ad how they came to be there--it is still under investigation.
Some interesting aspects of Putin's recent comments-- it is possible that the intention was simply to destabilise Ukrainian life--to show that it was out of control. EG-- at Maidan- there is high possibility that Russian provocateurs were shooting in both directions with the intention of creating the stage for major clampdowns by Yanu etc. Looking at Putin in Sevastopol on may 9 and it being the organised showpiece parade of his recent acquisition!!--it was very pointed that all was good there.
Now that he has used his green men to invade there is an attempt to put others in the places "taken" and who will suffer the brunt of the Ukraine forces as they clean them up. All the while--Putin apparently  with clean hands points at Ukraine governments war on its own people.
For my money-- exactly these tactics can be use to retake the Crimea and make it unusable by Russia in due course( after mainland Ukraine is stabilised).
So now--some more information on the hired thugs that Russia is recruiting--


In Russia being recruited mercenaries to send to Ukraine - EC

Throughout Russia conducted a set of professional mercenaries to send to Ukraine for participation in terrorist activities. This in his Facebook head of the Center for Military-Political Studies, a representative group "Information resistance" (IP) Dmitry Tymchuk.

"For at least the last two weeks in terrorist formations in the east we see widespread replacement of troops GRU General Staff of the Russian Federation for mercenaries arriving from Russia. First of all, military reserve, mostly with experience in service in the Russian Spetsnaz and experience of in hostilities (in particular, in the Caucasus). enough set of such professionally trained mercenaries Russian authorities spend almost the entire territory of the Russian Federation ... Even in Khabarovsk Krai Russia over the last 3 weeks in the local draft boards called reserve soldiers who served in the Spetsnaz GRU where they are asked to pay for a good part of the emerging groups in the wane in Ukraine for participation in terrorist activities. most actively similar work carried out in the Southern Federal District of the Russian Federation ", - wrote Tymchuk.

In addition, he said, simultaneously powerful process transfer from Russia weapons for terrorist groups in Donbass.

Tymchuk noted that locals in the Donbas receive $ 100 per day for participation in protest terrorists.
http://conflict.rbc.ua/rus/v-rossii-provoditsya-nabor-naemnikov-dlya-otpravki-v-ukrainu--10052014111800

[JayH]

Part of Russian armored vehicles painted in the colors of United Nations Peacekeepers
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/chastina-rosiyskoyi-bronetehniki-rozmalovana-kolorami-mirotvorciv-oon-pashinskiy-348987.html

Acting Chief of Staff Sergei Pashinsky told yesterday that some Russian armored vehicles on the border with Ukraine has painted the colors of the UN peacekeeping force - said the plot TSN.Tyzhden .  He said that it was a whole convoy of armored vehicles.  accordance with the provisions of the United Nations, on the introduction of peacekeeping forces can only be taken at a meeting of the UN Security Council. Pashinsky stressed that any incursion into the territory of Ukraine is regarded as a military aggression.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/chastina-rosiyskoyi-bronetehniki-rozmalovana-kolorami-mirotvorciv-oon-pashinskiy-348987.html

Interesting--  time will tell if this is accuarate--but it would explain much of Putin's intentions in the short term.

[JayH]

[b]Why the poll on self-rule was a farce[/b]

But it wasn’t a travesty because it violated the constitution, or that more than 100,000 pre-completed ballots were seized in favor of secession ahead of the vote. Or that there was a dismally low turnout, multiple voting occurring, or that proof of residence wasn’t a criterion to cast a ballot.

It was a sham because Moscow was behind the vote, just as it was behind the annexation of Crimea and now, the slow-motion invasion of eastern Ukraine, and the recent unrest in Odesa, Kharkiv and other regions.

It is all a Kremlin charade to impose its will on and cover up a foreign policy debacle on Ukraine after the democratic EuroMaidan Revolution in February toppled the criminal regime of disgraced ex-President Viktor Yanukovych. Putin and his minions in the state-controlled press corps had defended Yanukovych’s corrupt government until the very end.
http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/mark-rachkevych-why-the-poll-on-self-rule-was-a-farce-347475.html

It is beyond comprehension why some on the forums are intent on denying the reality-- here is another news story that spells out an explanation as clearly as anyone can.

[viking]

Until the majority of the Russian population really "sees" the extent to which Putin has been lying to them, they will still cling to his words. Unfortunately, since all radio and TV is state owned, they never will.

[BillyB]

Until the majority of the Russian population really "sees" the extent to which Putin has been lying to them, they will still cling to his words. Unfortunately, since all radio and TV is state owned, they never will.

Putin's popularity was hurting for a while during bad economic times but it's skyrocketed since he took over Crimea. This time is different. A lot of Russian people do want Ukraine annexed by Russia. Propaganda is not necessary to get the majority of Russians on board with that plan. Propaganda is necessary to convince the world Russia has rights in Ukraine, let them have their way in there and the West is at fault for starting the problems in Ukraine.

[JayH]

Until the majority of the Russian population really "sees" the extent to which Putin has been lying to them, they will still cling to his words. Unfortunately, since all radio and TV is state owned, they never will.

The wheel will turn-- the more savage the sanctions and when that starts to bite-- Putin's "popularity" will evaporate. It is the oligarchs who will react when their wealth starts to evaporate.
Some think sanctions will not work-- but I am in no doubt if they are severe and far reaching( and uncompromising) and ongoing-- the Russian economy will go into reverse very fast.The steps to deprive Russian of foreign earnings are already underway-- and will accelerate if Russia does not reverse Putin's stupidity.
While sanctions are too slow for my liking-- in the long term they will have enormous impact on the Russian economy. My guess is not too many Russians really want to go back to 1990 !!!

[Manny]

The reasonable people on the forums can see very clearly the attempt by Russia America to invade Ukraine Russia's sphere of influence with paid thugs from all over Russia the world -- those also recruited for payment in Ukraine America itself -- and then backed by the "green men" Obama.
In particular in the  rallies across Ukraine it has been these paid thugs at the centre of starting real violence.

I fixed that for you.

Really, turn off the Fox and CNN and learn something that isn't laced with left side propaganda.

[lordtiberius]

JayH watches Fox? More lies I mean half truths or incorrect statements from Putinistas

[krimster2]

“Really, turn off the Fox and CNN and learn something that isn't laced with left side propaganda”

So you consider the source for your Blackwater in Ukraine “RT” a viable news source?  The following taken from wikipedia:

“The network asserts that RT offers a Russian perspective on global events. However critics have accused it of being a propaganda outlet for the Russian government. In 2013 President Putin admitted “Certainly the channel is funded by the government, so it cannot help but reflect the Russian government’s official position...”

Can you see the difference here?  There’s no major media in the US that is directly funded by the US government.  In Russia ALL the major media is directly funded by the Russian government, and is nothing more than “All Propaganda, All the Time”.

You want to know what the USA was upto in Ukraine?  I’d be happy to tell you, I was involved in one of USAID’s programs.  This program was funded by the USA and the purpose was to re-structure Ukraine’s K-12 educational curriculum to be more compatible with Europe’s
My own daughter was a student in this program. So I guess that makes us fascist provocateurs.
About 10% of USAID’s total amount amount spent in Ukraine went towards Chernobil related projects including putting up the 250 million USD to build the concrete sarcophagus around reactor #4.  What a bunch of terrorists and fascists, right?  Moscow, was not only responsible for the Chernovil disaster, but additionally failed to warn the residents of Kiev in time to avoid exposure, needlessly exposing hundreds of thousands to contamination.  Has Moscow put up even one penny to fix the damage?  No, of course not!  If you’ve traveled in a large Ukrainian city, you may have noticed energy saving sodium vapor street lights, again paid for by USAID, this certainly shows that America is “up to no good” as well. These are the kind of projects that USAID has been financing.  Russia views these “do-good” projects with alarm and of course spins them into some paranoid fantasy that gullible uninformed people seem to gobble up like candy.

Throughout history Moscow has made Ukraine one vast graveyard with its pogroms, purges, holodomor, civil war and chernovil.  Show me even one person in Ukraine killed by the evil fascist Americans??  Yet, Americans are the bad guys, well of course...  BTW, my Dad was stationed in your country during WWII until D-Day and lost two toes from frostbite during the battle of the Bulge.  I ask that in his memory, you please stop calling us fascists.

[JayH]

I fixed that for you.

Really, turn off the Fox and CNN and learn something that isn't laced with left side propaganda.

Like I said--any reasonable person can see what is going on.You have shown yourself quite clearly as not being  a reasonable person and opposed to free speech.Like Putin-- whose media is closed and closing more-like Yanukovytch and his failed regime who attempted to silence free speech--you Manny in your own little domain dare not allow free and fair comment.The parallels continue--you have your paid provocateurs spewing garbage to an enclosed environment and decline the option of them being criticised--  and now you come here to show your inability to even read.
I have posted many links to news stories-- if 1% is to the 2 organisations you suggest-- i would be very surprised.  So really-- stick to your nonsensical cheer leading for Putin's Russia and corruption.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Can you see the difference here?  There’s no major media in the US that is directly funded by the US government.  In Russia ALL the major media is directly funded by the Russian government, and is nothing more than “All Propaganda, All the Time”.

Yep, Big Business owns America and also the media.   You really expect us to believe all the money the US is putting into Ukraine is for aid? 


I couldn't follow your other rants since your post was all over the place.

[Chelseaboy]

So.let's get this clear..for unbiased news reporting about what's really  happening in Ukraine..we should be watching a news channel  funded by the Russian government ....really ? really ?.........LOL.

I've heard it all now...and the Putler fanboys/girls on here will lap it up.

[Muzh]

I fixed that for you.

Really, turn off the Fox and CNN and learn something that isn't laced with left side propaganda.

LMFAO


My goodness Stuart, your brain has been turned to mush. I stopped by your propaganda forum the other day and boy, it definitely looks like a subsidiary of Russia Today. That's understandable, have to keep the missus happy, eh?


What surprised me was the hateful comment from Millaa. I'll give her  no more than six month in the US before she either change her mind or she files for divorce. I KNOW for a fact that she will not be able to have a happy life in the USA with her views.


Maybe she should move to GB where manny of the Brits would bend over for a bunch of rubles.

[krimster2]

In the case of the chernovil concrete sarcophagus, the French contractor was chosen as the result of an international competition held by a Ukrainian committee, so to the best of my knowledge no American “big business” even received a penny from this project.  the goal was to physically secure reactor #4, and this goal was accomplished.  Russian contribution, exactly zero!

“my rant...”?
You mean, “speak at length in a wild, impassioned way”?  would you prefer short, indifferent messages instead?  Then you need to reconsider the subject matter...

Of course, big business has a lot of control over events in the USA, in Russia it’s the government that owns the businesses (including the media) and not the other way around,    Here is a partial list of just the main TV stations that are directly owned by the Russian government

First Channel – national, state-owned channel – news and entertainment
Rossiya – national, state-owned channel – news and entertainment
Zvezda – national, owned by Russian Ministry of Defense
NTV – national commercial channel – news and entertainment
Russia K – state-owned – culture and arts
Russia 2 – state-owned, commercial
Russia 24 – state-owned – news channel
Petersburg – Channel 5 – state-owned – commercial
TV Center – owned by Moscow city government – news and entertainment

In Russia, journalists have been put in prison or murdered for speaking in opposition to government lies.  Here’s a wikipedia article that claims 200 Russian journalists killed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

You couldn’t follow my narrative, it’s freakin simple!  After three years of living in Ukraine and watching Russian TV every single day, I never once heard the Russian media put any historical responsibility on Russia for any of the unfortunate events that took place in Ukraine’s recent history, such as:

Pogroms
Purges
Holodomor
bolshevik civil war
communism
Chernovil
let alone recent events in the Maidan

instead, you can’t watch a Russian TV for more than 15 minutes before you witness some exclamation about how evil America is,  and how they ‘re responsible for everything from AIDS to promoting homosexuality, narcotics, and subversion, perversion, dispersion,  incursion,  Kursk submersion, etc.

I could go on but it would cross the the threhsold of being a rant!!!
 


 

 

[lordtiberius]

 

[fathertime]

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You want to know what the USA was upto in Ukraine?  I’d be happy to tell you, I was involved in one of USAID’s programs.  This program was funded by the USA and the purpose was to re-structure Ukraine’s K-12 educational curriculum to be more compatible with Europe’s
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About 10% of USAID’s total amount amount spent in Ukraine went towards Chernobil related projects including putting up the 250 million USD to build the concrete sarcophagus around reactor #4.  What a bunch of terrorists and fascists, right?  Moscow, was not only responsible for the Chernovil disaster, but additionally failed to warn the residents of Kiev in time to avoid exposure, needlessly exposing hundreds of thousands to contamination.  Has Moscow put up even one penny to fix the damage?  No, of course not!  If you’ve traveled in a large Ukrainian city, you may have noticed energy saving sodium vapor street lights, again paid for by USAID, this certainly shows that America is “up to no good” as well. These are the kind of projects that USAID has been financing.  Russia views these “do-good” projects with alarm and of course spins them into some paranoid fantasy that gullible uninformed people seem to gobble up like candy.
 

 That is interesting Krimister, thanks for posting it.

It brings up another topic,
As an American taxpayer I don’t like how little control I have over my tax dollars.
I’m sure a lot of our money was spent on worthwhile items, but I feel we should have a system here where we can choose where are federal tax dollars go.  The options would be right on the tax return and look something like this:
A.      Military spending
B.      Domestic programs for the needy
C.      Infrastructure improvements
D.      Foreign aid
E.       Salary for all of the govt. employees.
F.       Congress’ choice (discretionary)
I am probably forgetting a few items, but they could be added in.  the point being...this nation’s government is in debt in the neighborhood of 18 trillion, which begs the question…how the hell could we be borrowing money to spend money on lights in Ukraine?  Why would our ‘representatives’ think they should be spending our money on things that we may very well not approve of.  It is OUR money after all. Shouldn’t we have a more direct say (generally speaking) on what areas it is going? 
Fathertime!   

[krimster2]

you are a citizen of a nation that chooses it’s legislative members in a process known as “elections”.  these elected members are then responsible for creating the budget.  so by voting for legislative members whose views most closely resemble your own will provide you with influence over the budgets that they create, this is as good as it gets in a representative democracy.

Yes, our government has debt, about 28% of that debt is money that one branch of the government owes to another branch, like social security trust funds and the federal reserve.
China and japan together hold another 15%, this is a result of the USA’s trade deficit with these two countries.  in the short term, this trade deficit is a stimulus to the economy, the USA gets goods it doesn’t have to pay for immediately and in return is loaned the money at a low interest rate.  If we had to “pay cash” for all goods from China and Japan and weren’t allowed to run a deficit, Walmart would disappear overnight along with a lot of other companies and jobs.
As far as the federal deficit is concerned, please remember that we had a president who initiated two wars without funding either, hence their costs show up as a 1 trillion plus deficit, and in addition two tax cuts where 90% of the tax cuts went to richest section of the population and weren’t offset by spending cuts, hence this shows up as another 1 trillion plus deficit.  on top of that we had the biggest financial crisis since the great depression which resulted in a large drop in tax revenue and increased spending.  if we ran the USA without a deficit, we would need a massive spending cut which would cause a massive depression.  so which course do you want, where we are now, or the massive depression??

[fathertime]

you are a citizen of a nation that chooses it’s legislative members in a process known as “elections”.  these elected members are then responsible for creating the budget.  so by voting for legislative members whose views most closely resemble your own will provide you with influence over the budgets that they create, this is as good as it gets in a representative democracy.

Yes, our government has debt, about 28% of that debt is money that one branch of the government owes to another branch, like social security trust funds and the federal reserve.
China and japan together hold another 15%, this is a result of the USA’s trade deficit with these two countries.  in the short term, this trade deficit is a stimulus to the economy, the USA gets goods it doesn’t have to pay for immediately and in return is loaned the money at a low interest rate.  If we had to “pay cash” for all goods from China and Japan and weren’t allowed to run a deficit, Walmart would disappear overnight along with a lot of other companies and jobs.
As far as the federal deficit is concerned, please remember that we had a president who initiated two wars without funding either, hence their costs show up as a 1 trillion plus deficit, and in addition two tax cuts where 90% of the tax cuts went to richest section of the population and weren’t offset by spending cuts, hence this shows up as another 1 trillion plus deficit.  on top of that we had the biggest financial crisis since the great depression which resulted in a large drop in tax revenue and increased spending.  if we ran the USA without a deficit, we would need a massive spending cut which would cause a massive depression.  so which course do you want, where we are now, or the massive depression??

Thanks for posting that detailed information, but you must have misread the intent of my post Krimster, I realize that the deficit and debt isn’t the end of the world at this time, but I do view it as a problem, …I do disagree with the false choice you put at the end of your post (there are more options than the 2) but that is not important.  I realize how the system works currently, but at this point I’d like for us taxpayers to have a more direct say regarding how the money is spent.  I realize this will not be happening anytime soon, but when I hear that my tax dollars are buying streetlights in Ukraine, rather than being spent on something that I feel is more beneficial to us citizens, it doesn't make me feel good about the decisions our ‘representatives’ are making with our money.  I also realize that the idea I proposed could create a different set of problems if certain safeguards weren't put in place, but I would like to see some version of it, but I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime.  I'd like to hear more of your opinion on these matters.
Thanks,
Fathertime! 

[lordtiberius]

I have never supported an income tax. But if we have to pay it, shouldn't we have an option to earmark its use? Congress proposes legislation, bit who says we the people can't advise?

[GQBlues]

....I realize this will not be happening anytime soon, but when I hear that my tax dollars are buying streetlights in Ukraine, rather than being spent on something that I feel is more beneficial to us citizens, it doesn't make me feel good about the decisions our ‘representatives’ are making with our money.  I also realize that the idea I proposed could create a different set of problems if certain safeguards weren't put in place, but I would like to see some version of it, but I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime.  I'd like to hear more of your opinion on these matters....

Every politicians have their own array of lobbyists.

Don't believe for a minute that those street lights in Ukraine was done out of the kindness of our hearts and that we have so much money available we just don't know what to do with it. Fat corporate lobbyists are lined up for every individual brickhead running for office in Washington. So in some silly ways, it doesn't matter if you elected Bevis over Butthead, monies will filter its way through those lobbyists to suck up monies from all of us one way or another.

Hell, IRS just blew nearly 150 billion in improper EIT payments since 2003 and no one even noticed. You think a few street lights anywhere in this silly world would matter all that much in the overall scheme of things?

[BillyB]

the point being...this nation’s government is in debt in the neighborhood of 18 trillion, which begs the question…how the hell could we be borrowing money to spend money on lights in Ukraine?  Why would our ‘representatives’ think they should be spending our money on things that we may very well not approve of.  It is OUR money after all. Shouldn’t we have a more direct say (generally speaking) on what areas it is going? 
Fathertime!

Hey Fathertime! Like you, sometimes I don't like where our tax dollars are spent and it's good citizens keep pressuring politicians to do a good job or get fired. But we have to look at all the good with the bad. With debt we have to look at the other side of the coin, the health of a nation's economy and usually it's good. Take a look at the chart in the link below pertaining to 2012 debt. Even China is in the top 20 for debt. Countries with the biggest debts tend to be prosperous nations. Most nations would love to be in our shoes even if they had to adopt our debt with the economy.


We can take the UK's and Germany's debt and it will equal ours. Per person, one could conclude they are worse off than America. UK is in debt to America the most. Although we owe nations, nations owe us. What you see as debt now isn't so big if those in debt to us pay up.


America has control of the World's bank and International Monetary Fund because we supply those institutions with the most money. Out of all the nations in the world, we have the most money to loan or give and part of our foreign policy is to use that money to prevent wars such as done in the Middle East and help people of other nations as Krimster pointed out with Ukraine to facilitate friendly relations. Some people like to believe America throwing money around the world is primarily for sinister purposes but I don't buy it.


http://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2079rank.html?countryname=United States&countrycode=us&regionCode=noa&rank=2#us

[JayH]

Another interesting link --it is self explanotory. Manny--if you need someone to do a decent interpretation/translation I will organise it for you.( btw-- This link is not a US one !!--AGAIN!!)   The Kremlin rewarding the favoured few who report in the way required.
Quoting--
"some time ago there was information about some "300 journalists worthy" to be awarded "for the Crimea." Recently, walking between the towers of the Kremlin, we happened to see lists of these journalists.
We want to share these lists with you. Lists of our habit we have removed "intimate" information like registration, passport numbers, machines and phones, but I think many of you will be able to identify his friends, awarded this "honor" to be marked by the "Chief"
ceremony will take place in two stages 14 and 19 May in the first building of the Kremlin.
According to our source in AP RF, number of publications designation came "from above" for listing as many people to "Head" encouraged by the number of loyal SMIshnikov him. Well, probably to "picture was" ...
following lists:

Medal of the Order "For merits before Fatherland» I and II degree will be awarded:e towers of the Kremlin, we happened to see lists of these journalists.

http://b0ltai.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%8F%D1%82-%D0%B7%D0%B0-%D0%BA%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA/

This is in addition to the link and is translated-approximately.
"Among the recipients Putin 300 journalists turned Nazi Steshin. Fascism will not pass, cheers. http://b0ltai.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/кого-наградят- .. Alexander Volodarsky: I then asked to write about Dmitry Steshin. As it turned out, this person is still not known in Ukraine. Steshin I learned about 5-6 years ago - Komsomolskaya Pravda correspondent conducted openly Nazi blog (now juiciest moments in it cleaned up). But at work he was doing all the same spread ultranationalist ideas, though in a more restrained and sleek form. Incitement and anti-migrant antiromskoy hysteria biased articles against the anarchists and anti-fascists, as we love all. In 2008, during the Russian invasion of Georgia, Steshin went to the place of fighting and gave out a packet of promotional materials, one of which depict the valiant act: distracted by a woman with a gun and let her shoot. "I started jumping from BTR, pulled one foot and saw himself aimed at automatic. His kept girl, Georgian, in the form of bullet-proof vest and helmet on it ... I did not notice it .. Distance to 6 meters, no more. I waved to her, "I'm a journalist!" And said softly close because there was. She lowered her machine, and at this time it cut the queue in half ... " In 2009-2010, became known fact his close friendship with Nikita Tikhonov, killer Stas Markelov and Anastasia Baburova. The journalist was a witness in the case. Most witnesses among friends Tikhonov-Khasis eventually became defendants in the "case BORN" or fled the country, but it does not Steshina touched, golden pen Komsomolskaya Pravda continues to write. Here - what BORN: http://lenta.ru/articles/2014/02/17/born/ course Steshin was sent to Ukraine, first to the Maidan, and later in the South-East. It was he who wrote about the burning Conservatory before it was set on fire. Similarly, he wrote in advance of the failed capture of the Verkhovna Rada. Now reporter publishes exclusive materials torture Ukrainian security officials - militants who are located extremely unfriendly towards the press (rather unfriendly to take other journalists captured) he is allowed to freely shoot even war crimes, knowing that they will be presented in the right light. In 2009, when the Komsomolskaya Pravda trampled on the memory of Ivan Khutorskoy office was attacked by KP (however, that the attack was symbolic: stones and smoke bombs). Then I took without special approval for this episode, he says, journalists can not touch it, even the most vile. I was wrong. Some can even touch"

[pokerintherear]

 That is interesting Krimister, thanks for posting it.

It brings up another topic,
As an American taxpayer I don’t like how little control I have over my tax dollars.
I’m sure a lot of our money was spent on worthwhile items, but I feel we should have a system here where we can choose where are federal tax dollars go.  The options would be right on the tax return and look something like this:
A.      Military spending
B.      Domestic programs for the needy
C.      Infrastructure improvements
D.      Foreign aid
E.       Salary for all of the govt. employees.
F.       Congress’ choice (discretionary)
I am probably forgetting a few items, but they could be added in.  the point being...this nation’s government is in debt in the neighborhood of 18 trillion, which begs the question…how the hell could we be borrowing money to spend money on lights in Ukraine?  Why would our ‘representatives’ think they should be spending our money on things that we may very well not approve of.  It is OUR money after all. Shouldn’t we have a more direct say (generally speaking) on what areas it is going? 
Fathertime!

And you vote a straight Liberal, Progressive, Democrat ticket every election.