Newt or Mitt VS Obama. Can either of 'em beat him?

[BC]

Nice try.  Obama is nowhere near the President that Reagan was.  No, I would like a President who is more willing to follow the Constitution.  Obama is so desperate that he just circumvented Congress in order to try to get more Hispanic votes--by not deporting ones here who came here illegally.  His Attorney General will likely be found guilty of contempt of Congress.  He lost in the Supreme Court in his witch hunt against Arizona.  His mandated big medicine forced medical care for all is not Constitutional.

No doubt you would like a Socialist like him to be even more and more like Uncle Joe (Stalin) and keep chipping away at the US Constitution, and keep taking more and more rights away from the American people.

Romney has a huge record of success in the real world--which is the business world of creating jobs.  Obama could not even run a lemonade stand if givien a chance!!

Oh comeon....at least keep the political crap in the correct place...

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14359.msg303017;topicseen#msg303017

[Muzh]

Nice try.  Obama is nowhere near the President that Reagan was.  No, I would like a President who is more willing to follow the Constitution.  Obama is so desperate that he just circumvented Congress in order to try to get more Hispanic votes--by not deporting ones here who came here illegally.  His Attorney General will likely be found guilty of contempt of Congress.  He lost in the Supreme Court in his witch hunt against Arizona.  His mandated big medicine forced medical care for all is not Constitutional.

No doubt you would like a Socialist like him to be even more and more like Uncle Joe (Stalin) and keep chipping away at the US Constitution, and keep taking more and more rights away from the American people.

Romney has a huge record of success in the real world--which is the business world of creating jobs.  Obama could not even run a lemonade stand if givien a chance!!

Oh, so when you wipe your ass with the Constitution so we can "help" the fascist in Central America, that is patriotic. Isn't it?

[GQBlues]

I don't believe the three branches of government fighting each other for power and control was ever envisioned by the Founding Fathers.

I think they envisioned lively discourse between the branches, but were confident that above all 'We the people' would rule and not 'We the politicians'.

These three words will come back to haunt.

These days, unfortunately, public interest" is easily overridden by political agendas and ambitions. 'We The People is replaced by "I Your President"....The founding fathers never envisioned a day will come where the residing politician's personal agenda far outweighs the interest of those it governs.

[BC]

'We The People is replaced by "I Your President"....The founding fathers never envisioned a day will come where the residing politician's personal agenda far outweighs the interest of those it governs.

Would that not apply to "I your Congressman" or "I your Supreme Court Justice"

Seems many would like to have the cake and icing too....

[GQBlues]

Would that not apply to "I your Congressman" or "I your Supreme Court Justice"

Seems many would like to have the cake and icing too....

Senators, yes...

But generally, those minions are much too busy having affairs and lying about it...and the VPs couldn't stop bobbling their heads nodding 'ayes'...

[erikmagenta]

Oh, so when you wipe your ass with the Constitution so we can "help" the fascist in Central America, that is patriotic. Isn't it?

Who are we helping in Central America??

[erikmagenta]

Oh, so when you wipe your ass with the Constitution so we can "help" the fascist in Central America, that is patriotic. Isn't it?

I notice that you are not disputing the fact that Obama could not even run a lemondate stand!!

He has zero business experience!!  He is not even remotely qualified to be President!!

[Anotherkiwi]

...Romney has a huge record of success in the real world--which is the business world of creating jobs.  Obama could not even run a lemonade stand if givien a chance!!

Romney has a wonderful record of destroying jobs as well.

[BC]

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/the-wrong-resume/

[2tallbill]

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[BC]

Bill,

There is a humor thread for all the cartoons. 

Anything of substance to add?

[calmissile]

The substance is embedded in the cartoons.  Carry on Bill!

[BC]

The substance is embedded in the cartoons.  Carry on Bill!

Aww jeez calmissile... he's got hundreds of these things lined up for when he has nothing productive or original to say..  also fringes on violation of fair use posting so much of the stuff.

[Muzh]

And then he says I rub him the wrong way. 

[Gator]

Aww jeez calmissile... he's got hundreds of these things lined up for when he has nothing productive or original to say..  also fringes on violation of fair use posting so much of the stuff.

Hundreds?    Your estimate is low.  I am bombarded every day (see below).  The late night shows have several jokes each evening.  Obama humor is everywhere, and it is well deserved. 
 
Obama is taking a beating on every front, not just the economy.  Rarely have I seen a President fall so fast and far in popularity.  Even some liberals are abandoning him because he has broken his liberal promises as well as every other promise he made.  The man's lack of substance is now apparent.  So many questions remain unanswered about his past, questions that were overlooked in 2008 because he offerred hope.  Even I considered voting for him and many of my conservative friends actually did, thinking he would be the inspirational leader America needs.  Most are now anti-Obama.
 
Obama had his opportunity.  Even had the backing of Congress.  What did he accomplish?  Anyone have some examples of accomplishments?
 
This country needs an inspirational leader.  Romney is a highly competent director, but I fear he does not have the personality to be the leader we need.   Nevertheless, he is the better choice by a wide margin.  He will get the economy headed up again. 
 
Will Romney resolve the fiscal problems with a long-term solution?  Very difficult.  Both parties need to get together to accomplish that.  The correct solution IMO will take skin off of everyone.  Will our government accomplish that?  We can hope. 
 
Oddly the Simpson-Bowles fiscal plan is receiving more and more attention.  We discussed it early in this thread (or was it somewhere else).  This was a commission appointed by Obama and then ignored by Obama.   I feel Obama could have been re-elected if he had done something, even small, in the direction of the recommendations.   As the smartest Democrat said, Obama is an amateur.

[2tallbill]

Hundreds?    Your estimate is low.

For sure it is, I could easily post a hundred per day for several days.
I just posted a few that have came out in the last week.


I still think Carter was worse than Obama but Obama isn't done yet and
Romney could definitely lose.

[The Natural]

Obama is taking a beating on every front, not just the economy.  Rarely have I seen a President fall so fast and far in popularity.  Even some liberals are abandoning him because he has broken his liberal promises as well as every other promise he made.  The man's lack of substance is now apparent.  So many questions remain unanswered about his past, questions that were overlooked in 2008 because he offerred hope.  Even I considered voting for him and many of my conservative friends actually did, thinking he would be the inspirational leader America needs.  Most are now anti-Obama.

Yes, I remember also all the "hope" and worship of Obama. Even saw a car here with an Obama bumper sticker and he was compared to Kennedy, even Jesus.
 
Historian and political commentator Webster Tarpley say that the powers that be, like with the recent Bilderberg meeting in Virginia, want to replace Obama with Romney. There's the reason for the anti-obama stuff in the media now, that wasn't allowed before.
 

 

This country needs an inspirational leader.  Romney is a highly competent director, but I fear he does not have the personality to be the leader we need.   Nevertheless, he is the better choice by a wide margin.  He will get the economy headed up again. 

Do you really think so? What if he turns out to be worse than Obama and put Americans into real austerity ala Greece? Real revolt in the streets?

[BC]

Oddly the Simpson-Bowles fiscal plan is receiving more and more attention.  We discussed it early in this thread (or was it somewhere else).  This was a commission appointed by Obama and then ignored by Obama.   I feel Obama could have been re-elected if he had done something, even small, in the direction of the recommendations.   As the smartest Democrat said, Obama is an amateur.

How was it ignored by Obama?  It is clear that there is no consensus within the legislative branch to pass laws, even in these super committee environments...

[Gator]

How was it ignored by Obama?  It is clear that there is no consensus within the legislative branch to pass laws, even in these super committee environments...

Obama's Simpson-Bowles commission reported its findings while the Democrats still had control of Congress.   He could have done something.  Instead Obama and Democrats recognized they would lose some popularity by cutting entitlement programs, so they hid their heads in the sand (but did ask for more taxes on the rich).

This was discussed in  yesterday's Washington Post (a liberal rag)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-race-snubbed-obama-deficit-panel-proposals-are-getting-new-attention-_-from-both-sides/2012/06/20/gJQAKJjUqV_story.html
 
Obama can only blame himself.   American government is about compromise to keep our nation working together.  Our Civil War happened when the opposing parties could not compromise.   Let's examine two Presidents, Reagan and Obama.
 
When Reagan became President, the Republicans also  controlled Congress.  One of his first steps was to sit down with Tip O'Neil (the strongest Democrat) and talk compromise.  It was not a 50-50 compromise because the victorious party always gets most of the spoils.  Nevertheless, it was something about 60-40.  BTW, Reagan got less than be bargained for.

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/07/25/lessons-for-today-from-reagans-1982-deficit-reduction-compromise/
 
Now contrast that with how Obama got his Obamacare enacted (100-0) and some other initiatives (e. g., GM bailout that gave 95-5 to the unions rather than following American law for bankruptcy - Michigan is a swing electoral state).  This created a backlash and THE PEOPLE elected to power the the antithesis to Obama (such as no tax increases).
 
"Obama is an amateur."
 
The worst part is that Obama divides rather than leads.   He can not run on his record because he has failed in almost all accounts, especially the economy.   He can not run on "hope and promises."     His only alternative is to foment class warfare.  America is not about class warfare.   We need a leader.

[Gator]

Do you really think so? What if he turns out to be worse than Obama and put Americans into real austerity ala Greece? Real revolt in the streets?

Some austerity is necessary and good.  In your own neighborhood, look how well Estonia and Sweden are doing.   If we do not address the fiscal deficit, we will become Greece.  How soon?  Supposedly we have a few more years along this path before our metrics resemble Greece.