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Hello all, new to this site.

I spent 2 weeks in Nikolaev this past March and will be going back for a month fairly soon. There is a small agency there called "Slavic Girls", and I'm wondering if anyone her has had any experiences with them. They don't actually have much of a website. A number of ladies registered with them are also participating with the "Dream Connections" tour folks. There are a number of women I'd enjoy meeting, and I have already told them that I won't be engaging in letter writing back and forth, preferring to meet the ladies in person when I am there.

If anyone has any comments, regardless of nature, I'd welcome their input.

Thanks in advance!

Chris

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Hello all, new to this site.

I spent 2 weeks in Nikolaev this past March and will be going back for a month fairly soon. There is a small agency there called "Slavic Girls", and I'm wondering if anyone her has had any experiences with them. They don't actually have much of a website. A number of ladies registered with them are also participating with the "Dream Connections" tour folks. There are a number of women I'd enjoy meeting, and I have already told them that I won't be engaging in letter writing back and forth, preferring to meet the ladies in person when I am there.

If anyone has any comments, regardless of nature, I'd welcome their input.

Thanks in advance!

Chris

Welcome to the forum Chris. Dream Connections is owned by Mark Davis and his wife. Mark has posted on this forum and if you go the members list and click on his profile and read his posts, you can get a good read on what kind of guy he is.

A lot of women feel left out on those tours. They outnumber the men and the aggressive women seem to round up most of the attention. If you see a woman you like and she's sitting in a corner all alone, don't be afraid to approach her and strike up a conversation.

Slavic Girls is a feeder agency to a big agency called AFA(A Foreign Affair) owned by John Adams. A lot of guys had a bad experience with AFA.

I see a couple of problems with your just show up approach at the agency. You will not be a valued customer at an agency that may take advantage of you. How much do they charge per date? You have not invested a lot into their company so they will not invest a lot in you. They may not be interested in you finding love so they will want you to keep dating different women often since they make money that way. They may hook you up with their good time girls instead of their marriage minded girls.

Another problem is that you will know nothing about the women prior to visiting them. Emails, phone calls, and Skype can help you filter out ladies you're not compatible with. You will not be wasting time and money dating those girls because you already know not to date them before visiting. Also by communicating with the ladies, they will be able to filter you out if they're not attracted to you. You only have so much time in Nikolaev so it's best you meet people you know you get along with.

With the agency you're using, it's hard to do what I recommend since you don't know if you're communicating with Ivan, the employee of the month, or real women. If there is any way to communicate with the ladies around the agency, do so.
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Chris, It's possible Slavic Girls switched parent companies since the information I gave you is based from 2009. I did a Google search and a current profile in Nikolaevapartments.com which Slavic girl is associated with is also at other scam sites in the link below. The blog says Nikolaevapartments provides escort services. Interesting that they say that because AFA was also involved in the sex industry. An immigration attorney named William3rd(deceased) used to work for AFA has nothing good to say about them. Jack Bragg(deceased) was an agency owner who proved to me that AFA was in the porn industry since I was initially skeptical. He showed me porn sites with their custodial addresses being the same address of AFA's headquarters.

I suggest you really try to communicate with the ladies before visiting them if you can do so without the agency in the middle. It's easy to read the sincere women. If you go there dating strangers, there's a good chance you may date an escort who's going to try real hard to separate you from your money.

http://findyourfake.blogspot.com/2016/03/olga-dating-site-user-nikolaev-ukraine.html
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. . . I have already told them that I won't be engaging in letter writing back and forth, preferring to meet the ladies in person when I am there.


Billy gave you some good advice as to why this is not a good approach.

Your stance could also indicate a laziness on your part or some attempt to take shortcuts. 

This entire process to find a suitable woman in FSU is a very time consuming and exhausting undertaking. 

Any hint of laziness means it is not for you.
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I would like to add my voice to those above.  Welcome to the Forum, Chris. 

First, if you stayed in Niko for two weeks, then you know that the Ukrainians pronounce it Mykolaiv.  I have stayed at the River Hotel (where the first day there I get a phone call from one of the members checking up on me) and found it to be a treasure.  I have also stayed at the Tourist Hotel, close by.  Not so great.  But apartments there are very inexpensive.  Jumper, one of the moderators here, met his wife at an agency there.  (What she saw in him, we still wonder.)

A fellow who frequented these forums with the name Bubba Gump married a Niko woman and lives there to this day.  He teaches English and, if you can contact him, he's a kind man and will show you the ropes. 

Do not visit the Dixie Barbeque in Niko.  While it is very close to the main McDonalds, right on Prospect Lenin, it is the home of Niko's most famous brothel.

If you go to that McDonalds, and sit on the brick/stone fence, you can see Niko's world walk by.  It is frequented by FSUW meeting their Western men.  I have some great pics of the awkward first meetings.  But will not show them here because it would violate their privacy. 

I have to echo that advice which you received above.  This is a long process.  Even if you found your woman the first day looking, it still takes time to put her in your country and there are numerous obstacles along the way. 

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If you go to that McDonalds, and sit on the brick/stone fence, you can see Niko's world walk by.  It is frequented by FSUW meeting their Western men.  I have some great pics of the awkward first meetings.  But will not show them here because it would violate their privacy. 

Ugh..

So let's get this straight ... you took 'great' photos of other people's dates ..? I think that is violating their privacy, flipping rude and SAD..

Didn't you have anything more constructive to do ?

 
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« Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 03:15:31 AM by dragonkid »
Not all of us Brits have terrible teeth, right Msmoby?

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Ugh..

So let's get this straight ... you took 'great' photos of other people's dates ..? I think that is violating their privacy, flipping rude and SAD..

Didn't you have anything more constructive to do ?


You can learn a lot from photos. I think jone might have been doing a study like Professor Sutwell (Robert Cummings) in 'Beach Party' 1963. (I got to be really, really old to get the reference (ask Gator) ).



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Billy gave you some good advice as to why this is not a good approach.

Your stance could also indicate a laziness on your part or some attempt to take shortcuts. 

This entire process to find a suitable woman in FSU is a very time consuming and exhausting undertaking. 

Any hint of laziness means it is not for you.


My personal view is it's not necessarily indicative of laziness. I totally respect the view of all of the experienced and married guys at this forum and perhaps my view will change as I continue with my personal endeavour.


I've had some very pleasant meetings without having known the lady previously, either via an agency, 'matchmaker' or at short notice through websites. Conversely, I've had some meetings where I'd been communicating with the lady for weeks beforehand and the meetings didn't live up to expectation.


If you're in town for a few weeks and looking to maximise your options, you might get lucky in who you meet. I also had a look at this agency and, whilst I am still a little on the fence, I exchanged a few Skype messages with them and they do seem to have an approach tailored to the needs of the individual - at $40 per initial meeting (including interpreter) I don't think it will break the bank to be selective and meet a few that are of interest.


Notwithstanding, I do agree that whatever happens on a first visit, it's a long-term process and a lot of commitment and patience is required.


Chris - if you use the agency, let me know how you get on. I plan to be in Nikolaev for 10-14 days in June.

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Ugh..

So let's get this straight ... you took 'great' photos of other people's dates ..? I think that is violating their privacy, flipping rude and SAD..

Didn't you have anything more constructive to do ?


Moby,


During my 8 day trip to Niko I people watched also. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with taking photos of 70+ year old WM being lead from store to store by an 18 - 23 year old leggy devuchka. Since you are a UK citizen, you know that you cannot go anywhere in London and not be on camera. It is time for you to realize that when you are out of your home your privacy has gone out the window.


Stop being cranky Moby.  :D


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Moby,


During my 8 day trip to Niko I people watched also.

There's people watching and photography 'awkwardness' ..


 Nothing wrong with that.

Your opinion..


 Nothing wrong with taking photos of 70+ year old WM being lead from store to store by an 18 - 23 year old leggy devuchka.


Explain the 'pleasure' ... I'm interested... how some folks minds work ...I'm not a reader of The Sun or the National Enquirer .... that might be my 'problem'...

Since you are a UK citizen, you know that you cannot go anywhere in London and not be on camera.

Yes, we are observed and if an operator was caught saving such data for his/ her private 'entertainment' - you can guess what the outcome would be...

The cameras are used to prevent crime, aid Police Officers to attend scenes of crime and provide evidence to the Crown Prosecution Service ...

If 'cranky' is pointing out pervy behaviour - I'm 'guilty'..

 It is time for you to realize that when you are out of your home your privacy has gone out the window.


Stop being cranky Moby.  :D


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Ugh..

So let's get this straight ... you took 'great' photos of other people's dates ..? I think that is violating their privacy, flipping rude and SAD..

Didn't you have anything more constructive to do ?

Nah, I took pictures of the meetings.  I was curious.  And I have previously shared them with guys on chat.    Why would I want to hone in on their dates?  I was with a woman and we both were amused.    I also took pictures of girls getting their photos taken for agencies.   

While you may think such is rude and sad, we put a great deal of resources into meeting women in a foreign country.  Any leg up on the process is valuable and money saving.  Things that are talked about and speculated about here on the forum, I got to witness in person.  So, yes.  I would want to document those incidents and bring them back to share.  But I am sensitive and would not wish to share them as a permanent record on the internet.

For those of you not offended, one of the incidents that I recorded (my woman's child was playing in the playroom outside of McDonalds) was of a man on a (supposed) first meet.  He was wearing blue jeans and a T-Shirt and had his hands in his pockets the entire time.  She was dressed up in a dress, high heels and he looked totally out of place.  I know we've talked about this before, but the first impression made with these women is very important.  It can mean the difference between getting another shot and being shut down.
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Hello all, new to this site.

I spent 2 weeks in Nikolaev this past March and will be going back for a month fairly soon. There is a small agency there called "Slavic Girls", and I'm wondering if anyone her has had any experiences with them. They don't actually have much of a website. A number of ladies registered with them are also participating with the "Dream Connections" tour folks. There are a number of women I'd enjoy meeting, and I have already told them that I won't be engaging in letter writing back and forth, preferring to meet the ladies in person when I am there.

If anyone has any comments, regardless of nature, I'd welcome their input.

Thanks in advance!

Chris

Different strokes for different folks. The advice about communicating prior to your visit is good sage advice. It doesn't mean you can't or won't be successful just showing up. That method however leaves you vulnerable to two things 1) is an agency to find and line up dates for you or 2) Your charming personality and wit to talk up women who don't share your language. Both can be very frustrating and very expensive or, the best possible way for you. Your choice either way.

Guys have been successful both ways in contacting/communication before the trip or hitting the ground in-country not knowing a soul. It's all a gamble anyway. You didn't mention much about your March trip? What happened? Did you take that same approach?

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Do not visit the Dixie Barbeque in Niko.  While it is very close to the main McDonalds, right on Prospect Lenin, it is the home of Niko's most famous brothel.


What if Chris just wants to eat barbeque? Doing desert isn't mandatory, is it?
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I believe, Billy, they have a different menu.
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Nah, I took pictures of the meetings.  I was curious.  And I have previously shared them with guys on chat. 

You may now 'get' why I was so reluctant to share face recognition software - how to identify people...now follows the most amusing excuse for pervy behaviour...


While you may think such is rude and sad, we put a great deal of resources into meeting women in a foreign country.  Any leg up on the process is valuable and money saving.  Things that are talked about and speculated about here on the forum, I got to witness in person.  So, yes.  I would wan software- t to document those incidents and bring them back to share.  But I am sensitive and would not wish to share them as a permanent record on the internet.

So you 'just' shared them in chat ..  :rolleyes:

I had the same disagreement with Jack Bragg and his 'street photography' .
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Right, everyone on here, I'm a perv.  I took a picture of a WM meeting and FSUW, the exact purpose of our forum.  That makes me out to be perv, according to Moby.  God, I think I'll soak my head in the toilet for being so invasive. 

No, Moby, instead, why don't you go soak your head in the toilet for being so damnably stupid.
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i posted this prior but i took it down. Sometimes i enjoy going to the park, watching other people, and analysing who they are, what they do in life, their behaviour. I find it sort of fun, and relaxing. This is whilst i am taking a walk, listening to my audio book.
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No, Moby, instead, why don't you go soak your head in the toilet for being so damnably stupid.

Chances are he already did--hence his ongoing stupidity.( I could have added he probably got his head stuck in the process) :shock:
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You may now 'get' why I was so reluctant to share face recognition software - how to identify people...now follows the most amusing excuse for pervy behaviour...

Are you convinced that you alone controlled the "secret" of face recognition software? I don't get this part of your post
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So you 'just' shared them in chat ..  :rolleyes:

I had the same disagreement with Jack Bragg and his 'street photography' .

That doesn't make you right in your position. Jack took photos of women he saw on the street in the FSU. It was good for chumming up new business for him plus as he put it, it was a hobby. There was nothing wrong, immoral, unethical or illegal in doing so. Nor, is it for anyone else who wishes to snap photos in public for their own purposes. I notice you've taken and posted plenty. You didn't seem to have an objection then?

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Where you not the one hitting up internet sites telling anyone and everyone how your ex gave you herpes or some other std's?  I seem to recall you trying to bash your ex for quite some time there cowboy.



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I just happened to be browsing about the internet....

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I don't think I"d be interested enough to take photos of a 70 year old with a 22 year old....although I'd probably look a minute, and see how they were interacting....i'd be curious to see how the lady is carrying herself as much as anything....


as far as sharing photos like this in chat...I don't think that is a great idea either...I guess for a few chuckles maybe, but why bother? 


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Right, everyone on here, I'm a perv.  I took a picture of a WM meeting and FSUW, the exact purpose of our forum. 

No, you took pictureS - you knew better than to post them on the open forum - as you knew it was a breach of their privacy

You clearly derived some PERVERSE 'pleasure' and felt the need to 'share'...
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I've been away a bit...just wanted to say "Thank you!" to all of you who have contributed your insight and energy to this post. I appreciate you taking the time to do so.

Regards,

Chris

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No, you took pictureS - you knew better than to post them on the open forum - as you knew it was a breach of their privacy

You clearly derived some PERVERSE 'pleasure' and felt the need to 'share'...


Moby, did the Smooth Operator from RWG take your photo with a young dyev and post it somewhere?  Smooth Operator loved ridiculing western men.

 

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