Trench's Questions and Philosophies

[pitbull]

"He is a typical highly functioning autistic"

I'm actually one myself, although I prefer to say "on the spectrum"
your conception that people on the spectrum cannot have successful relationships is WRONG
spend a minute on Google and see for yourself
I myself have been happily married to a Russian woman for nearly 19 yrs
Trench's main limitation is financial, if he were wealthy a woman would find HIM!!!
all of my success with Russian/Ukrainian women was facilitated by deep pockets
no money - no honey

people on the spectrum learn to simulate normal behavior and can fit in just as good as anyone else
I've managed to coax quite a few Russian women into my bed over the years
I don't think being on the spectrum impacted me in any negative way at all
actually just the opposite, it gave me a cognitive advantage
what you're talking are "Incels" Involuntary Celibate
I have not been celibate since I was 14
but was on the spectrum the moment I was born
soory wrong conclusion

quite a lot of Incels are on the spectrum too btw

[msmob]

If Trench is 'on the spectrum' then I'm a Dalek ..

[krimster2]

physician perhaps you  should heal thyself first
before diagnosing others

[krimster2]

"then I'm a Dalek"

Good God run and get Dr Who quickly the machines are here!

[krimster2]

oh wait, that was a joke...whew....

[BillyB]

Geez guys you are still trying to explain the basics of human interaction and relationships to a 40 year old! Can’t you see - he is not getting it! He will never get it! You might as well be trying to teach him about rocket science. In fact rocket science might come easier to Trench than human relationships.

He is a typical highly functioning autistic - he is simply handicapped in all areas of human interaction. What seems natural to you - is out of his reach. He simply cannot put himself in other person’s shoes so to speak.

There is a very interesting discussion board called “Wrong Planet” - full of Trenchcoats. Men who cannot have or sustain a relationship with women because of their disability . He is not like you - he is not neurotypical. Might as well be a different species. He is simply not capable of a relationship, be it with a woman or real friendship.
One good thing is that he is not resentful to the point of getting aggressive like some.

Excellent post but does Trench agree? People aren't going to fix something that they don't think is broke...at least most of the time.

I've said from the beginning Trench showed up he needs to change himself if he's to be successful with women. Some people thought I was wrong. I doubt people think I'm wrong now. I want Trench and all guys here to succeed but ultimately, it's up to them to make changes that makes them more appealing to women.

A lot of guys have problems interacting with women. They need to make adjustments otherwise loneliness with be their companion for life.

[Trenchcoat]

"He is a typical highly functioning autistic"

I'm actually one myself, although I prefer to say "on the spectrum"
your conception that people on the spectrum cannot have successful relationships is WRONG
spend a minute on Google and see for yourself
I myself have been happily married to a Russian woman for nearly 19 yrs
Trench's main limitation is financial, if he were wealthy a woman would find HIM!!!
all of my success with Russian/Ukrainian women was facilitated by deep pockets
no money - no honey

people on the spectrum learn to simulate normal behavior and can fit in just as good as anyone else
I've managed to coax quite a few Russian women into my bed over the years
I don't think being on the spectrum impacted me in any negative way at all
actually just the opposite, it gave me a cognitive advantage
what you're talking are "Incels" Involuntary Celibate
I have not been celibate since I was 14
but was on the spectrum the moment I was born
soory wrong conclusion

Ah Krimster, we might get a bit of sense out of you

Any interaction in the FSU I'm sure you will understand is not about just the man but also the woman. Now I'm guessing it is likely that these women that are left well the majority of them probably have some issue as to why they have been passed over by FSUM.

I feel that many are arbitrary, stubborn, down right pig headed call it what you will - that it's theor wah or the highway type of person - and that they refuse to compromise, many in fact don't seem to even know what that is. The big question is:

'How do you deal with such women?'

I have a few ideas but I am not sure they are the complete answer. I am now starting to think that the answer is, 'you don't'. That it is these women that are incapable of a LTR which is why they have been left on the side. That they will eventually destroy any relationship and so are not worth the time outlay in the first place. I am thinking that this is probably the conclusion FSUM have come to, perhaps yourself too, what are your thoughts?

[mhr7]

Any interaction in the FSU I'm sure you will understand is not about just the man but also the woman. Now I'm guessing it is likely that these women that are left well the majority of them probably have some issue as to why they have been passed over by FSUM.

I feel that many are arbitrary, stubborn, down right pig headed call it what you will - that it's theor wah or the highway type of person - and that they refuse to compromise, many in fact don't seem to even know what that is. The big question is:

'How do you deal with such women?'

I have a few ideas but I am not sure they are the complete answer. I am now starting to think that the answer is, 'you don't'. That it is these women that are incapable of a LTR which is why they have been left on the side. That they will eventually destroy any relationship and so are not worth the time outlay in the first place. I am thinking that this is probably the conclusion FSUM have come to, perhaps yourself too, what are your thoughts?

The problem isn't with the women, it's with you and - for whatever reason - your lack of understanding of human social interaction.

[krimster2]

"I feel that many are arbitrary, stubborn, down right pig headed call it what you will - that it's theor wah or the highway type of person - and that they refuse to compromise, many in fact don't seem to even know what that is. The big question is:

'How do you deal with such women?'"



your're 100% right!!!!  this is how pretty much ALL WOMEN BEHAVE!!!!
and you think that's bad, I have 3 women in my household, 3 and they're ALL THIS WAY!!!!

so what do I do?
I make it a priority to give them what they want!
I spend a huge amount of money, time, and effort to provide for their material needs
I am also the person they come and see when they have a problem that needs to be solved
so in that respect, I am irreplaceable, and they need to be "on my good side"
in all cases, I have provided wise counsel to them, so my opinions are eagerly sought
I am by nature "a good spirited" positive person who doesn't get angry that often
but when I do get angry, it frightens the women, and I have come to use that fear as a tool
so if it appears I'm heading in that direction, they will immediately stop the provocation
bottom line: in my house I am King, and my loyal subjects try to remain on my good side by not making me upset
in return, I provide for them all that they wish and they know a loving hand watches over them
but give the devil his due or he will get cross...

[Trenchcoat]

"I feel that many are arbitrary, stubborn, down right pig headed call it what you will - that it's theor wah or the highway type of person - and that they refuse to compromise, many in fact don't seem to even know what that is. The big question is:

'How do you deal with such women?'"



your're 100% right!!!!  this is how pretty much ALL WOMEN BEHAVE!!!!
and you think that's bad, I have 3 women in my household, 3 and they're ALL THIS WAY!!!!

so what do I do?
I make it a priority to give them what they want!
I spend a huge amount of money, time, and effort to provide for their material needs
I am also the person they come and see when they have a problem that needs to be solved
so in that respect, I am irreplaceable, and they need to be "on my good side"
in all cases, I have provided wise counsel to them, so my opinions are eagerly sought
I am by nature "a good spirited" positive person who doesn't get angry that often
but when I do get angry, it frightens the women, and I have come to use that fear as a tool
so if it appears I'm heading in that direction, they will immediately stop the provocation
bottom line: in my house I am King, and my loyal subjects try to remain on my good side by not making me upset
in return, I provide for them all that they wish and they know a loving hand watches over them
but give the devil his due or he will get cross...

Thanks for that Krimster it really helps to clear it up a bit, most appreciate, looks like I might just have to bend over to a good arse whipping from a lady then

[krimster2]

metaphorically I suppose
Russian women sometimes need a firm hand, as well as a gentle hand
I set boundaries for the women in my house
I do not tolerate their abuse to me or to each other
when they do something that makes me angry
my demeanor changes from a kind sweet loving person
into a monster, and it terrifies them
so this maybe happens once or twice a year, and they never forget it
what's funny, is it's all an act!!!
I put on this "air of malevolence" and it must be terrifying based on their response
anyway, that's one approach that works for me

when you live around a lot of women you get used to their PMS induced behavior and you learn to just glide above it

I really disagree with others assessment of you, I've seen guys with terrible interpersonal skills
but were very wealthy, and they had women all over the place....
the fact of no money means you have to compensate in some other way
if you were a bit younger, I'd advise you to "re-invent" yourself
and become more interesting and more out-going
and of course make more money!!!!
maybe you could embark on a shorter journey of reinvention
but think you should change something
and not try same thing over and over expecting a different result






 

[Nightwish]

Krimster and Trench exchanging in conversation... this is like reading a rejected part of the manuscript to   


I notice that Trench found a soulmate...

[krimster2]

it must be weird having a child's mind in an adult's body what's it like?

[krimster2]

Nacht Wiesel, I actually don’t mind admitting that I feel a lot of sympathy for Trench
and would like him to be successful in his quest
and I see nothing wrong in that
he takes more abuse on this forum then any other person
and chooses not to fling it back the way I would
and I think that’s a VERY good quality
and might be a good example for you to follow

i’m sure you’ll respond with your usual nasty remarks, cuz that’s basically ALL that’s inside you
and your remarks are just a reflection of a sad little middle-aged man filled with resentment and anger that he needs to vent on someone, so go ahead.....
reading about your so called relationships in Ukraine over the last few years
has been good for a few chuckles and that’s about all
and totally laughable that you think your meager adventures qualify you
to criticize Trench
I suspect that Trench actually has a better mental attitude than yours
and I really think you’ve picked on Trench long enough now
go bully someone else

[Boethius]

Nope. Virtually every poster here has tried to help him and come to the same conclusion. He’s a misogynist who thinks he is “entitled” to a woman from a “dump” and she will be grateful to move into his hovel, where she will be thrilled to have a life confined to the kitchen and bedroom. She can take a menial job to keep herself in clothes and toiletries.

This is not someone who should be encouraged.

[krimster2]

and what if you are WRONG BO?
did that possibility ever occur to you?
that you have come to the wrong conclusion
that you have misjudged
based on insufficient material presented here

maybe I see something in Trench others don't
but I don't see any reason to not treat him like a fellow human being
so what if you disagree with his opinions
is that a requirement to be treated decently on this board?


you cannot judge without also being judged
and NONE of us is without sin
not even you BO!!

if ALL of you who accuse Trench
are also sinners yourself in some way
then what does that make you?

[Boethius]

We may be sinners but we don’t view FSUW as less than human, but rather, as human beings with their own thoughts and desires. Jumper summed it up nicely. Everyone here tried to help Trench, but his attitudes, exposed in over 2,000 posts, have given him away and he either is unwilling or incapable of change.

Perhaps you should consider that if 99/100 people see a bird while you see a spaceship, you were mistaken.

In a way, encouraging him is cruel.

[JayH]

Why the f**k are you looking for one then, you imbecile?

Please stop[ being so nice to him !!  Too many compliments 

[krimster2]

“Perhaps you should consider that if 99/100 people see a bird while you see a spaceship, you were mistaken.”



so when Copernicus understood that the earth was NOT the center of the universe while everyone else on the planet thought it was, he should’ve listened to them, because the majority is always right?

I don’t think so, you should know better than to follow that line of thought...

Trench is just everyone’s favorite whipping boy, and I think it’s gone on long enough
 
everyone is entitled to their own point of view, if Trench is not ALLOWED to have his opinion, then why are you or anyone else entitled to theirs, just because some opinions agree with your biases?

and that’s all this is
none of us, not even you, are omnipotent and all knowing
there’s a mountain we don’t know compared to the grain of sand that we do know
so to judge based upon a grain of sand will not be a legitimate judgment
so I’ll skip the part of judging Trench, this is not my concern
and really shouldn’t be anyone else’s either

[krimster2]

hey JayH?
when was the last time you were in Crimea?
I left two days ago
I hope your information is not old and obsolete

[Boethius]

I never posted Trench is not allowed to have an opinion. But you are encouraging an underemployed misogynist who doesn’t earn enough money to import a spouse to pursue a fantasy. It’s not going to happen. So, who is crueler?

[pitbull]

“Perhaps you should consider that if 99/100 people see a bird while you see a spaceship, you were mistaken.”



so when Copernicus understood that the earth was NOT the center of the universe while everyone else on the planet thought it was, he should’ve listened to them, because the majority is always right?

I don’t think so, you should know better than to follow that line of thought...

Trench is just everyone’s favorite whipping boy, and I think it’s gone on long enough
 
everyone is entitled to their own point of view, if Trench is not ALLOWED to have his opinion, then why are you or anyone else entitled to theirs, just because some opinions agree with your biases?

and that’s all this is
none of us, not even you, are omnipotent and all knowing
there’s a mountain we don’t know compared to the grain of sand that we do know
so to judge based upon a grain of sand will not be a legitimate judgment
so I’ll skip the part of judging Trench, this is not my concern
and really shouldn’t be anyone else’s either

You cannot tell others what they should and should not think or if they should or should not judge someone. And you are not a Copernicus by any stretch of imagination!


99% of posters here see the obvious -


Trench is disabled in the most important area of human existence - relationship building and compassion. He should not be encouraged to look for any woman. If by some chance a naive or desperate woman marries him - he will most probably ruin her life. Heaven forbid he fathers a child!

[JayH]

Trench is just everyone’s favorite whipping boy, and I think it’s gone on long enough
 

He has repeatedly proven he is a complete and utter f..wit  .

He  believes dope smoking idiots who post while stoned    and sex tourists like Roosh  ,plus some who want to relive a life in another time ( as they seek to attempt to display their bona fides)  that is close to irrelevant today  , instead of taking some generally solid advice !!!

Mrs B has summed it up again in the last few days  so even the moronic could get it !!

Maybe when he stops posting stupid -- he would get more tolerance (- which btw --the huge majority here displayed for a all to long a period  here have done until it became obvious he was beyond help. .

[krimster2]

“I never posted Trench is not allowed to have an opinion.”

you’re saying his opinion is not legitimate and labeling him is the same thing
he has exactly the same right to express his views here as you or питбуль
and your judgments are not infallible and are based on your own biases

it would be like me saying, “damn I LOVE cheeseburgers, there’s nothing better than a nice juicy quarter pounder with cheese”, and a vegetarian saying, “doncha know meat is destroying the planet you uncaring jerk”

so Trench is the meat eater and you’re the vegetarian
all this is subjective, and that’s my point
if it’s subjective it’s just one opinion against another
and there’s NO such thing as a CORRECT opinion

so you consider Trench to be “the jerk” here
and honestly I don’t think he is

[krimster2]

"You cannot tell others what they should and should not think or if they should or should not judge someone. And you are not a Copernicus by any stretch of imagination!"


I'm guessing that you don't see the irony in your statement, or even know what that means...