Will you meet many women - Part 2

[Albert]

As I noted in the first posting, my procedure has been to merely drop any woman who asked that question. So despite my many experiences with RW, I never followed up with the type of woman who asked these questions. I never really thought about the psychology of what the women were thinking and how they might respond to alternative answers I might send them.

However, in searching to answers about my SMS question, I came across a website of a Ukrainian man who is a professional interpreter working with western men pursuing the FSU ladies. In reading down through his question and answers section , I found his very thoughtful analysis of the women who ask such questions (will you meet many women), and he gave his recommendations.

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I was asked an interesting question by a woman I am corresponding with: "Are you going to meet only me or several women? I want us to be honest from the very beginning" ……

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You know, honesty and women are hardly compatible things. What is more, women do not appreciate honesty on the ground, whatever they say. (Do not believe them either). Words that you say to her matter much more that what you actually do. There is a saying, ''actions speak louder than words'', but if we apply this to women, ''words are more efficient than actions''. In my experience no actions are enough without words, but words alone can help without any actions. This is women, we cannot change them. All we can do is to understand them and act respectively. The only real use that women have for honesty is for manipulating men. So do not buy it. Tell her you are going to meet her only but do have a back-up plan. She will be happy. All she wants to hear is that you are coming to her only. But remember that she may be dating other men and can dump you without the slightest doubt if she finds it suitable.

Yes, I do suggest telling the lies. ""Do not ask silly questions and you will hear no silly answers"". It should be her fault for making you lie, not yours. Why lie? Simple. Women do not appreciate honesty. Strange as it seems it is true, believe me. I am not sure about American women but Ukrainian ones like to hear how much you love her, that she is the only one, lots of this bullshit, etc. I guess that all women are like that. So, if they like to hear the bullshit even if they know that it is bullshit, let them do. Tell her that she is the only one if that is what she wants to hear.

Of course she wants you to meet her only. But, asking you whether you are going to meet other women is actually against unwritten rules. Because if you are smart, you are. But if you answer honestly, she will be put off. If you lie, it is a lie. So she is putting you into a bad position where you lose both ways.

But, you have to be very careful and make sure she does not know anything. On the other hand, you always have to be careful when it comes to women. "Women worry about their future until they get married, men do not worry about their future until they get married"……

There are plenty of gorgeous women here and few earnest American men looking for Ukrainian brides. The math isn't hard to figure who is in demand and who is in command of the situation. And further, no one can know for sure if he only wants to meet one woman until he actually meets that one woman.

In my humble opinion, if I were the girl, I would do my best to make you forget all the other girls on earth, and then she would not even have to ask. But I am logical. As a man. Women's logic is actually NO logic.

So, before she is the only special one for you, do what is best for you, not for her. If she dumps you tomorrow (she can easily do it, refer to the above paragraph!) you will have to start over again. So, meet many and if they ask silly questions, provide them with relevant answers. They will only be happy . I do not imply that women are stupid, this is life.

[Bruce]

Absolutely excellent advice!

[Elen]

No comments:?

(only one note. Don't underestimate female's abbility to feel a lie:? and don't think you can meet here many women who would like that "feeling" Most probably you will deal only with those who would play their own games. And nobody knows who will be a winner)

[Bruno]

I have be honest from the beginning... i have say that i write many women but that with time, i go narrow my choice... and the woman have accept it...

In the begin, i write many, narrow to write only one... and i meet one... and if the alchimy is not working during the meeting, i spring in several local agency and i meet many during the rest of stay...

Since several woman write to a lot of man, and narrow her choice, i don't see problem to make the same...

Be honest is not the problem... it is more how you say it... specialy if you say "i love you" to a woman and i the same time, you say that you write to many... sorry, but i am not able to share my heart between several women... i have never say to Galina that i love her before the first meeting... now, we have plan for the marriage, and maybe during the second meeting next month, i go ask her for marry me... i love her and she love me but some little problem ( his father and religious ) need to be resolved before think to marry...

I don't know how women make it but they feel it if a other woman is in the game... in some way, woman are professional in "lie" and detect it very fast...

 

[Elen]

I don't know how women make it but they feel it if a other woman is in the game... in some way, woman are professional in "lie" and detect it very fast...

 Right.:P  It calls females' intuition.

[KenC]

Maybe it was just the agency I was working with, but none of the women I met through Lifetime Partners, in Tver, even asked if I was going to meet others.  All assumed I would.  Even my now wife never considered it a possiblitiy that I would not meet other women.  We had had a very nice phone relationship prior to my visiting.  I have to admit that the only one uncomfortable with me meeting multiple women, was me.

There was an incident where I had two women in the agency office at one time.  One that I had just finished speaking with and another that actually arrived early for a dinner date.  I admit that I squirmed a little bit.  Neither woman gave it a second thought though.  As a matter of fact, an American man that just happened to be in the office at the same time, quickly asked the first woman to go to join him for dinner too.  As fate would have it, they ended up dinning at the same place as me and my date.  All through dinner, the "other girl" kept going to the powder room and flirting with me behind my date's back.  There seemed to be a great deal of compitition going on.

After a few days of this nonsense, I quit meeting anyone but my future wife.  Even if she was busy, I used my time (and interpreters) for sight seeing.  I thought that the women should have been uncomfortable with my actions, but they were not.  I thought it was insincere on my part, after I knew I had a future with my now wife, and stopped the charade.

KenC

 

[Coulter]

US bias, of course. When you have the possibility to invite the lady to see your place for the first meeting, there is no choice to meet "many" and it is much much better for the lady in any case.

I find it strange that some men are unable to develop a trustful relation before meeting. Unable to speak Russian? Unable to understand one woman? Unable to have a good judgment? Holes in their education?

[Fiorella]

These girls who use marriage agency will not care if you meet many women. Agency staff usually instruct them about all details.

[Fiorella]

One more - every woman who has spent some time in internet dating can recognize this kind of lie in 2 seconds. It is easy. Of course she can make face that "she believe" but she will know the truth. It can work only with very newbie.

[Leslie]

The original advice comes from a Ukrainian man.  Of course he knows that all Ukrainian woman will realize that he is telling lies.....  (maybe except for a teenager or someone very stupid!).

HE EXPECTS THIS.

REMEMBER  UW HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY UM!

Virtually NO Ukrainian man would agree to a demand for an exclusive relationship from a woman he has not met.  The simplest thing is to lie.  If the woman backs off and still agrees to date fine.  The future will tell if a relationship grows.  If however she won't let this issue go - then best to dump the ***** immediately. 

It took me 4 trips to realize that I must act more like a Ukrainian man.  Western men have been turned into pussies by the feminists.  If you treat a UW in the same way as a western woman you will be seen as weak.  It is the first step in her loosing respect for you.  Once she has lost respect for you then you are a "white bird"  Socially it is smart to take advantage of such a stupid person.  It is not seen as wrong in Ukrainian culture.

A lot of sob story posts by western guys start here.....

 

[Bruno]

REMEMBER  UW HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY UM!

Virtually NO Ukrainian man would agree to a demand for an exclusive relationship from a woman he has not met. 

Very true... and after these training, they don't wish anymore a UM... Since several UM don't have exclusive relation with woman, same after marriage... the quality of a man if mesured by how much vodka he can drink and how much maitress he can have...

Remember that UW search the type of man that they cannot find in own country... if they can find a good man in Ukraine, why she begin search a western one... for other quality that us, western man have...

 

[Elen]

The original advice comes from a Ukrainian man.....

REMEMBER  UW HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY UM!

It took me 4 trips to realize that I must act more like a Ukrainian man.

Wonder should UW/RW ask advices from AW how to deal with males who have been trained by AW?

May be then there will be less of sob stories Eastern guls posted at Russian sites
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[2tallbill]

"Are you going to meet only me or several women? I want us to be honest from the very beginning"
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If a woman asks that Question, you have written too many letters. If you are meeting many
For the purpose of finding an excellent candidate for marriage, then you want to sift through
a great many women, convince them to meet you for coffee, tea and maybe cake so that
you can see if you have mutual chemistry.

This is a numbers game at first, not a letter writing/get to know you campaign. Why get to
know each other before you know about the mutual chemistry?

Albert went to the FSU to bed women. He was of the opinion that if he somehow met the
perfect girl then something might develop, but otherwise he was there to insert tab a into
slot b.

If you are going just to date then you will have a different strategy and tactics.