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My small agency in Russia
« on: July 22, 2009, 03:20:12 AM »
 :D It's really honest and responsebly agency....http://www.russian-enigma.com/
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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 04:22:18 PM »
Lina,

I just looked through your agency's Internet site.  On the surface, you seem like an ideal agency for a man looking for full service. 

Rostov seems off the beaten path, and it would probably be a good stop compared to some notable yet overfished ponds elsewhere.  Also, Rostov is a much warmer locale. 

What impressed me the most is all the fresh faces of the women in your gallery.  It has been a couple of years since I have looked through agency profiles; however, I recognized only one face from the 7 pages of women in the 40-48 years old.  That would suggest that these Rostov women have not received a lot of attention.

Actually, I recognized two faces.  For some odd reason, America's actress Meg Ryan is in Rostov and looking for a husband.
 :flowers:

http://www.russian-enigma.com/1girl.htm?id=602

Using Elena as an example, she is at the rear of your catalogue.  This would suggest that no one is interested in her or she has lost interest in marrying a foreign man.  Do you know her (and other women) well enough to know such so that you can guide a serious man to the type of woman who would show more interest.

Some other interesting women in the 40+ age group:

http://www.russian-enigma.com/1girl.htm?id=654
http://www.russian-enigma.com/1girl.htm?id=338
http://www.russian-enigma.com/1girl.htm?id=208
http://www.russian-enigma.com/1girl.htm?id=133
http://www.russian-enigma.com/1girl.htm?id=843
http://www.russian-enigma.com/1girl.htm?id=28

I looked briefly in the 30-39 age group.  Many of the women were married, so you have had a lot of success in matching a man and a woman.  You list some women as "Taken," which I guess is a good catch all for all different stages of a relationship.

What is the best way to fly into Rostov?  It is next to Ukraine and I wonder how easy it would be to combine a trip to both Ukraine and Rostov.



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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 04:30:02 PM »

What is the best way to fly into Rostov?  It is next to Ukraine and I wonder how easy it would be to combine a trip to both Ukraine and Rostov.


I have always been curious about this also.. is it possible to get from Donetsk to Rostov over land?  If so, how would one do it and how long would it take?

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 04:32:59 PM »
I just looked at the site and see a couple things you should change.

First your search engine starts with a ladies age of 16.
You also have an underaged girl listed on your site.
This is a BIG NO NO. Against the law in USA. Also would you truly want to attract such men who would write to an underaged girl???????

Second when doing a normal search all the first profiles seen were women listed as married, engaged or taken.
If they are not available then take them off. Unavailable ladies should not be showing on your site much less having to go through many profiles of unavailable ladies to finally find ones that are available.
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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 05:16:26 PM »
Second when doing a normal search all the first profiles seen were women listed as married, engaged or taken. If they are not available then take them off. Unavailable ladies should not be showing on your site much less having to go through many profiles of unavailable ladies to finally find ones that are available.

I suppose that's to show that they DELIVER ;). I'm more puzzled by this:

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20 postal addresses:
new visitor - $65.00; Cautious/Determined member - $45.00
50 postal addresses:
new visitor - $85.00; Cautious/Determined member - $55.00


What's a "Cautious/Determined member" ::)?  What does he do/doesn't do to get a discount? Food for our Russglish Glossary ;).

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 05:59:15 PM »
Just briefly checked your site and I hava to agree. The Married and Taken profiles are really annoying. Why would I want to see the profile of a married woman? They should be in a "Sucess Stories" area. Same for the Taken ones.

All in all pretty nice site.
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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 09:06:44 PM »
I just looked at the site and see a couple things you should change.

First your search engine starts with a ladies age of 16.
You also have an underaged girl listed on your site.
This is a BIG NO NO. Against the law in USA. Also would you truly want to attract such men who would write to an underaged girl???????


To quote Wiki,

"The ages of consent in North America for sexual activity vary by jurisdiction. The age of consent in Canada is 16, all US states set their limits between 16 and 18, while some states in Mexico have an age of consent as low as 12. The ages of consent in the countries of Central America range from 15 to 18." 

Don't think of this as sex between aa teenager and a 50-yo man (or as prevalent in Florida, a female teacher).  Rather, I would think virtually all of this is between teenagers in heat.

While boinking is okay between the ages of 16 and 18, marriage is more restrictive.  "In the United States, all but two states require a couple be age 18 in order to marry without parental consent. Nebraska sets the age at 19 and Mississippi at 21 at the time of this writing (May 2003). A few states will waive this requirement if there is a pregnancy involved, but the couple may still have to have court approval."

What is the law in Russia?



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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 04:44:32 AM »
Hello to everyone!!!
Thank you for your answers. I have much to say to all of you. I hope you will understand my not perfect English  ;D


I just looked through your agency's Internet site.  On the surface, you seem like an ideal agency for a man looking for full service. 

Rostov seems off the beaten path, and it would probably be a good stop compared to some notable yet overfished ponds elsewhere.  Also, Rostov is a much warmer locale. 



Thank you for your nice words. Rostov is a good place and much warmer then you can image. Very very hot here now.
About my business,
I know most of the girls from my site (90 %) personally, and I have met every girl and talk to her. Some girls (10 %) send me their profiles and photos by e-mail. But also I can tell that they are real and seriously looking for a relationship with foreign men.



Actually, I recognized two faces.  For some odd reason, America's actress Meg Ryan is in Rostov and looking for a husband.
 :flowers:

http://www.russian-enigma.com/1girl.htm?id=602



Haha  :D I was very surprised to hear it. I will tell to Elena that she is like very beautiful and famous actress Meg Ryan. Elena will be happy to hear it. If you really think that it is an unreal girl, I can send to you her another photos, and you will understand that she is a simple Russian girl who working in a photo studio. Tell me how a can prove to you that she is real Russian girl Elena and I will do it. I know her for many years.


 


What is the best way to fly into Rostov?  It is next to Ukraine and I wonder how easy it would be to combine a trip to both Ukraine and Rostov.




The easiest ways to Rostov are through Prague, Frankfurt or Vienna. Maybe, you can find another easy ways, but these are more comfortable for my own opinion.  :)
Yes, you can combine trip to Rostov and Ukraine. In Rostov you need to have a visa, in Ukraine you don't need it.
If you really interested in that, we I can tell you in more details how to get visa.

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 04:59:27 AM »
I have always been curious about this also.. is it possible to get from Donetsk to Rostov over land?  If so, how would one do it and how long would it take?

Yes, you can get from Donetsk to Rostov by the land. It's about 169 km between these cities. So it's about 2-3 hours by the car.
BUT! If you come to Rostov, you need a visa. The visa is once-entrance. So if you go to Ukraine from Rostov you won't can to come back in Rostov. There are 2 ways how to combine your trip to both cities. You cam firstly come to Rostov with your visa, then go to Donetsk and fly to your nature country from Ukraine. Or you can come to Donetsk first and go to Rostov with your once-entrance visa. And from Russia come back to your nature country.

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 05:09:53 AM »
Don't think of this as sex between aa teenager and a 50-yo man.....

Or....maybe some of our 60+yo single members?  :rolleyes2:

While boinking is okay between the ages of 16 and 18, marriage is more restrictive

Thank G*d for small miracles.

I would hate to see a new "trend" on RWD of AM chasing 16 yo RG (Russian Girls) and I couldn't imagine the look on the American consulates face when a 16 yo RG shows up for her "K-1 interview" in Moscow.  :puke:


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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 05:16:53 AM »
I just looked at the site and see a couple things you should change.

First your search engine starts with a ladies age of 16.
You also have an underaged girl listed on your site.
This is a BIG NO NO.

I absolutely agree with you. But our search engine starts with 16, but we haven't got any girl under 18 in our agency!!! Some girls in 17 asked me to take them in my agene. But I always say NO to them. This is one of my main rules.


What is the law in Russia?



The age of consent in Russia is 18! If you saw a young girl who is less then 18 years old in my website, please tell me. I will immediately correct it.


Just briefly checked your site and I hava to agree. The Married and Taken profiles are really annoying. Why would I want to see the profile of a married woman? They should be in a "Sucess Stories" area. Same for the Taken ones.

All in all pretty nice site.

This is my mistake. I will work on my site. I can image how it is annoy  :( I wanted to show how many girls fond their partners, but you are right that I need to move them to "Success Stories" area. Thank you very much for your advice.  :)
I really appreciate this.

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 06:18:48 AM »
Haha  :D I was very surprised to hear it. I will tell to Elena that she is like very beautiful and famous actress Meg Ryan. Elena will be happy to hear it. If you really think that it is an unreal girl, I can send to you her another photos, and you will understand that she is a simple Russian girl who working in a photo studio. Tell me how a can prove to you that she is real Russian girl Elena and I will do it. I know her for many years.


I believe you and I believe Elena is real.  I am not suggesting that you used Meg Ryan's photos.  The resemblance is close but not the same.  I don't need any proof, especially considering that I am happily married. 

Just looking at your gallery reminds me of how happy I am that I do not have to search any more.  This process of meeting and marrying a RW is not easy.


It is good that you are moving the "Taken" RW to another gallery.  With so many RW already married, etc. it makes one wonder what is wrong with the women not taken. 

You have a lot of success stories.  Do you wish to comment on why some of the meetings you arranged started with a lot of promise yet fizzled?

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2009, 06:38:48 AM »


Just looking at your gallery reminds me of how happy I am that I do not have to search any more.  This process of meeting and marrying a RW is not easy.


Of course it's very hard!! But all good in our lifes are hard doesn't it?
I'm happy for you that you are married and i wish you only the best.


You have a lot of success stories.  Do you wish to comment on why some of the meetings you arranged started with a lot of promise yet fizzled?

Hmm...I don't understand you..what do you mean? Can you gave me an example? Most of our couples are happy. May be not of all. But! This is life, and nothing can be perfect.

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2009, 06:41:52 AM »
The Elena "Meg ryan" has a photo with a child in her profile. There is a reason why most agencies forbid this, there are a few perverts out there who look for RW specifically with children so they can molest them, and you are even providing photos! Im not joking, i read about this on womens forums, so it may be a good idea to forbid posting childrens photos

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2009, 06:55:35 AM »
The Elena "Meg ryan" has a photo with a child in her profile. There is a reason why most agencies forbid this, there are a few perverts out there who look for RW specifically with children so they can molest them, and you are even providing photos! Im not joking, i read about this on womens forums, so it may be a good idea to forbid posting childrens photos

Yes, there are a few perverts  :( But there are a many photos of the children in the Internet!
I think it is nothing bad that this girl want to show her photo with her child. We neet our girls only with responsible  and normal men.

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2009, 01:00:40 PM »
...there are a few perverts out there who look for RW specifically with children so they can molest them...

Is this true?  The RW I met with children were very careful.

If this happens in the US, he would be crucified.

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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2009, 01:28:16 PM »

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You have a lot of success stories.  Do you wish to comment on why some of the meetings you arranged started with a lot of promise yet fizzled?



Hmm...I don't understand you..what do you mean? Can you gave me an example? Most of our couples are happy. May be not of all. But! This is life, and nothing can be perfect.


Sorry, I was not clear. The example is a man and one of your RWs trade a few emails.  The man decides to fly to Rostov to meet her.  They have a few dates; however,  either he or she decides not to see the other person again.  Why did it fizzle rather than advance to engagement?  There are many different explanations.  What are the most prevalent?

Another question:  With the downturn in the economy, some agencies have reported fewer men traveling to meet RW?  However, of those who do travel, a higher percentage are getting engaged.  Is this the same as with your agency?

Some other questions:
-  What percentage of men, who choose to write at least one letter, eventually travel to Rostov?
-  Approximately how many men came to Rostov last year to meet the women in your agency? 
-  Does the typical man write several letters before coming to Rostov?
-  How many different women does the typical man meet in a week?
 

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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2009, 01:37:37 PM »

Why did it fizzle


he means.. why did it go bad?

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« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2009, 03:12:54 PM »
Lina, your profile says you've been looking 0-2 years...you're better looking than most of the women on your site. So......

Oh wait, Sandro will kill me. I'd better not go there :(
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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2009, 03:29:48 PM »
Lina, you have not yet answered my question about Cautious/Determined members :-\. Who are they?
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2009, 03:51:29 PM »
I wonder if she means 'determined' as in someone spending an amount above a certain threshold where they would begin to recieve a discounted rate there after.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2009, 04:31:38 PM »
Cautious/Determined members :-\. Who are they?

I'd say they're the opposite of the reckless/undetermined members. ;)

I'm sure Lina gets unfocused men that walk in the agency that's towing a fine line between renting hookers and marriage. They don't get a discount!
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Re: My small agency in Russia
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2009, 03:51:51 AM »


Sorry, I was not clear. The example is a man and one of your RWs trade a few emails.  The man decides to fly to Rostov to meet her.  They have a few dates; however,  either he or she decides not to see the other person again.  Why did it fizzle rather than advance to engagement?  There are many different explanations.  What are the most prevalent?

Another question:  With the downturn in the economy, some agencies have reported fewer men traveling to meet RW?  However, of those who do travel, a higher percentage are getting engaged.  Is this the same as with your agency?

Some other questions:
-  What percentage of men, who choose to write at least one letter, eventually travel to Rostov?
-  Approximately how many men came to Rostov last year to meet the women in your agency? 
-  Does the typical man write several letters before coming to Rostov?
-  How many different women does the typical man meet in a week?
 


Well...
Yes, there are  many different explanations...we recommend to choose few girls to find a perfect one. But sometimes they can't choose one; there are many reasons of that. May be just destany.. But we have made many couples! Of course since 1996 there were a percentage (10 %) of men who don't find his love here. It's happing sometimes and it's normal.
About downturn in the economy. Yes, it is feels by our agency. But not very much. Our costs are the same as 1 year ago.
Your other questions:
-about 80 % of men, who write to girls, travel to Rostov. I think it because, men understand that our agency serious and our girls are really want to marriage. Most of the girls ask them to come to Rostov for a personal meeting. And men agree.
-since January 2009 there were about 12-13 men here in Rostov. Usually we have 2-4 clients a month.
-Yes, 70% of men, write to girls during 2-3 months, and then meet them here in Rostov. It makes their communications easier, you know. It's very helpful.
-Every our client choose 8-10 women. When he come to Rostov, he meet 3-4 girls per day, so 3 days he meet different girls, on the 4-5 day he choose the one girl perfect for him and spend 3-4 days only with her.

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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2009, 03:56:10 AM »
Lina, you have not yet answered my question about Cautious/Determined members :-\. Who are they?

mmm...it's different levels of membership! different prices..you can read about it on website

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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2009, 07:12:09 AM »
Lina,

Thank you for the statistics.  You seem forthright and open.  It is rare that an agency owner gives hard facts.

You are averaging only one male client every two weeks.  Even though the men meet 8-10 women, it is apparent that the Rostov women are receiving little attention, unlike women in Kiev and along the more beaten path. 

From these first impressions, your agency seems like a good starting point for a man wishing to avoid the Big City women.

It seems as if the clock has turned back 10 years.  I hope the men take their time and get to know the women.

 

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