Do Girls from Russia and Ukraine date Communists or people on the left? (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22032.msg465238#msg465238)
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Good for them!
The OP is married and his wife is in the US with him.
You're responding to an old thread. The OP is married and his wife is in the US with him.
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Still married,,, Still a Communist.. Busy making little Communists....
Yes we American Communists are rare... But we are a spirited group..
I am not sure why their are not more,,, TBH...
NEP type Communists,, you know...
I will be honest,,, my wife is actually not very interested in politics,,,
She does respect her grandfather a lot..
He is still a "Soviet" and Communist to this day...
So, my political rants remind her of grandpa... lol
I love one story she tells...
She asked him one day,, why he carried a gun at work... He said to kill fascists..
He had some cool stories of cuba in the 60's... cool guy...
My family, and husband's were victims of all those "cool communists". Most of husband's family was liquidated. Mine were fortunate, as they lived in Western Ukraine, so were only sent to gulags.
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Maybe but it seems to work in China... I mean you can't really just ignore the fact that they have made huge advances over the years...
Even in the SU they made huge advances in a very short time.
They went from a largely uneducated rural farm society, to become a true superpower..
all while fighting civil wars and world wars..
I don't think the history of communism is relegated to history..
But Free Market Capitalism is dead...... It has been for a very long time...
All governments interfere in business,, picking winners and losers..
Maybe but it seems to work in China... I mean you can't really just ignore the fact that they have made huge advances over the years...
How do you account for both countries killing tens of millions of citizens in the name of communist ideology>
Most of it is simply pro capitalist propaganda... To be honest...How many people die everyday under capitalism because of hunger, or lack of medical care?Seriously,,,, how many people died so that america could bring capitalism to Iraq and Libya? Democratic control of the economy for the benefit of all people is not a bad goal..One last thing,, Who are we to judge China? They say they are "communists" because they are trying to build communism..But first you must have socialism... Which is what they have....Serious question... Is Ukraine and Russia better today than they were in the 1980's? Maybe for some people... But what about all the people who do no have a better life under capitalism? Seriously,,,, in the 1980's Ukraine and Russia were a global power... Now Ukraine is a basket case.. With fake nazi's imposing their view on the rest of the country... The Russian speaking population is being forced to speak ukrainian... The poor of west Ukraine is going to the east to kill the poor of east ukraine... all while the oligarchs get rich,, and the roads are not getting fixed or people are not getting proper medical care...
Serious question... Is Ukraine and Russia better today than they were in the 1980's?
Seriously,,,, in the 1980's Ukraine and Russia were a global power... Now Ukraine is a basket case..
With fake nazi's imposing their view on the rest of the country... The Russian speaking population is being forced to speak ukrainian... The poor of west Ukraine is going to the east to kill the poor of east ukraine... all while the oligarchs get rich,, and the roads are not getting fixed or people are not getting proper medical care...
China and SU are not communist. They call themselves that, but are not. Both started as communists to garner public support to overthrow their respective governments, but quickly turned into Totalitarian nations.
While sticking to tenants of communism both nations struggled economically and socially. The main reason some people are so nostalgic of the old soviet times was not because they were better off, but it was because everyone suffered more or less equally and no one was better than them, except for the high soviet officials. And, if they remained fiercely loyal to the communist party and was somewhat competent in their profession, they may have a chance at a promotion.
I understand how you feel,,, but Communism did not kill them,,, people did...
The poor of west Ukraine is going to the east to kill the poor of east ukraine... all while the oligarchs get rich,, and the roads are not getting fixed or people are not getting proper medical care...
I have never been to east ukraine,, but I know an american that fight for the DPR...He post news you don't see in the west..
The civilian houses destroyed,, schools shelled, the many non combatants killed..
How many people die everyday under capitalism because of hunger, or lack of medical care?
Seriously,,,, how many people died so that america could bring capitalism to Iraq and Libya?
My friend is a english teacher at a local university,,, even he has a hard time with Ukrainian in the far west,,,
Because they tend to use more polish words.. his words....
I am not going to argue against your point,, although I don't agree with it all...
So my wifes city started off as a border fortress call fortress elizabeth.. the land was taken during the crimean war..
The muslims were forced out and repopulated by russians Ukrainians and germans.. Basically anyone not muslim..
This city is in central ukraine... so it actually has very little "Ukrainian" History... kinda...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kropyvnytskyi
Like I said... This is my.understanding of ukraine...
I am not mistaken about any of it....
I am not mistaken about any of it....
"No clue who he is... "
Mark Paslawsky was an American volunteer on the Ukrainian side who was KIA maybe 2 years back...
The USA and NuLand was behind the Neo-Nazi backed uprising against the legitimate government of Ukraine..
When the legitimate government of Ukraine fell....
The east and crimea also had the right of self determination...
according to Article 17 of the Constitution of Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot be involved in any conflict within the country.
so? yea...
Ukraine is a country run by oligarchs for oligarchs,,, Each with their own private militia...
The USA and NuLand was behind the Neo-Nazi backed uprising against the legitimate government of Ukraine..
When the legitimate government of Ukraine fell.... The east and crimea also had the right of self determination...
5. (C) Poroshenko praised the work of international election observers and stressed that he had made a point of meeting with them during the election campaign. He said Tymoshenko later criticized him privately for his embrace of the observers, saying that it had undercut her allegations of fraud. Poroshenko disagreed. Ukraine, he insisted, should be proud of the fact that so many observers had positive reports on the election; it reflected well on Ukraine. Poroshenko concurred with the Ambassador's assessment of the constructive role that ODIHR's Ambassador Heidi Tagliavini had played. This is not 2004....
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6. (C) Noting his prominent role in the Orange camp in 2004, Poroshenko said that Yanukovych's election this year was consistent with the fundamental goals of the Orange Revolution: free and transparent elections and the peaceful transition of power.
I know Victoria Nuland personally, and had lunch with her in the pre-Maidan days in Kyiv
she speaks excellent Russian BTW!!
so I can tell ya all about her involvement in creating Maidan
it was ZERO....
Maybe Bernie, Putin, and Xi should just have a sit down...
Decide to try to work together and build a better world..
Some light reading from China,,,
I just hope that china can use globalization not just to develop their industry but to help globalize Resistance against the self serving capitalist oligarch class...
The Communist movement must adapt to the circumstances that we find ourself in...
Are you sure Iraq or Libya and soon venezuela don't count?
How many military bases does Russia and China have around the world?
Compared to the USA?
The US created ISIS... ISIS of all groups...
America supported Al Qaeda in Afghanistan to keep the USSR from spreading. It was business, not friendship. Whether or not one believe America is responsible for creating ISIS, they are responsible for their own actions.
Source: Wiki
Where's the link so we know you're not making stuff up...again? America gave billions in aid to assist the Afghan mujahedeen(holy warrior for Jihad) to fight the Soviets, and you want us to believe none of that money went to the Arab volunteers who arrived to assist them? Who fed, gave weapons, and training to the Arab volunteers which included Bin Laden? Charity alone given to the mujahedeen is not enough to beat the Soviets.
GQB
I missed when the Americans ordered citizens to be killed, robbed the nation's coffers, sent tough guys to beat up and kill journalists ?
sure Biden had his son lined up to divvy up the Gas in E.Ukraine ... but to suggest this is 'ALL' a US fubar is more than sl. disingenuous
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Quoting Farage at ME ?
The guy is sponsored BY the Kremlin
Citation please.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/16/arron-banks-nigel-farage-leave-brexit-russia-connection (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/16/arron-banks-nigel-farage-leave-brexit-russia-connection)
Aaron Banks - sponsors Farage- lives near me ...
NO WAY does he make enough through his businesses enterprises to fund Farage..
Farage under investigation re his non declaration of expenses ..
Come on, GQB ..
GQB
Nice attempt at obfuscation for your ignorance..
1/ the fact remains that Farage is under investigation
2/ ' Trampu' was not exonerated as chose flakes like Manafort..
The stench has not gone away...
Ukraine is a country run by oligarchs for oligarchs,,, Each with their own private militia...
The USA and NuLand was behind the Neo-Nazi backed uprising against the legitimate government of Ukraine..
When the legitimate government of Ukraine fell.... The east and crimea also had the right of self determination...
People say look at the polls in Ukraine,,, Like the same type of poles that said trump would loose?
Report from Ukrainian media on the illegal use of army in the Donbass translated: "The Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass are employed illegally – this was the conclusion reached by experts from the office of the Ukrainian Prosecutor General. According to Oleg Zhivotov, the lawyer of the former head of the [arrested – AF] General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Vladimir Zamany, these results of their examination are contained in the report on suspicions against his client.
The experts’ conclusion are shocking and most importantly, they cannot be undone. It now turns out that everyone who fought in the Donbass violated the Constitution of Ukraine. This threatens any Ukrainian soldier, national guard, volunteer. True, the Geneva Convention may come to their aid – after all, they were under oath and acted on orders. But this convention does not protect Petro Poroshenko, supreme commander, the convention does not protect."
http://www.newcoldwar.org/shocking-analysis-from-the-prosecutor-general-office-poroshenko-and-all-who-fought-there-will-answer-for-donbass/?fbclid=IwAR17IvwbNhB-EaLNZCOxwaMTyxVTnfoPvmgeMaHhXcQjnlRgLd3bAfPWopo (http://www.newcoldwar.org/shocking-analysis-from-the-prosecutor-general-office-poroshenko-and-all-who-fought-there-will-answer-for-donbass/?fbclid=IwAR17IvwbNhB-EaLNZCOxwaMTyxVTnfoPvmgeMaHhXcQjnlRgLd3bAfPWopo)
http://www.rt.com/news/460488-ukraine-nazi-collaborator-monument/?fbclid=IwAR03GCMt1R_VrElJqphuCxQtYBzzvkpqdAPCRo2iTFeEbZe6Ol6aih2e_cU (http://www.rt.com/news/460488-ukraine-nazi-collaborator-monument/?fbclid=IwAR03GCMt1R_VrElJqphuCxQtYBzzvkpqdAPCRo2iTFeEbZe6Ol6aih2e_cU)
Western liberals may praise a Chinese tank man of 1989 but completely ignore how our Ukrainian civil war developed exactly 5 years ago. A government, installed in Kiev via coup, has sent the army to suppress the rioting miners of Donbass who didn’t recognize the coup. Unarmed people managed to stop the army – soldiers first refused to shoot.
Then the pro-US coup government recruited neo-Nazi paramilitary battalions, released and armed criminals from jails, cleansed most of the former army personnel. And only after that the full scale war started in May 2014.
The main reason for the coup and lasting civil war was the issue of free trade agreement with the EU which the former government refused to sign. That’s how western imperialism works.
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Copy pasted words from a comrade in central Ukraine,, he is also a proud IWW member...
A lot of americans hate trump,,, But you don't see us trying to overthrow the government with Russian money delivered directly from the ambassador to the usa.. ""Nuland cookies""
You don't see nazi CIA trained snipers killing everyone to increase tensions to the breaking point...
In a MF Democracy,,, you wait and vote the bastard out.....
What do you think would happen in the USA if people tried to take over the government?
The police would murder everyone...
. . . armpit hair sportin', karl marxist preachin, hairy legged "women" . . .
but dating totally sucks in the Bay Area if you're a straight guy
but there are mega-herds of male engineers EVERYWHERE in the Bay Area
ahhhh Telegraph Ave on a Saturday afternoon
Amoeba Records, Cody's Books....
I miss those days
but dating totally sucks in the Bay Area if you're a straight guy
worse place EVER for me
best place for me in the USA was Manhattan
best place on Earth was Kyiv
I slept with super models in Kyiv when I was younger
I was in shock the first time it happened
I though I entered into some opposite universe
Krimster...Oh you should see the "girls" that are in Berkeley now. As you stated, Telegraph ave walking down from the Cal Campus to Dwight ave..sitting strumming guitars, high on weed, panhadling with their hairy ass legs, facila hair, some may be bald with large gauge piercings. Then in San FranSICKO, you have the women who march for whatever metoo cause, antitrump, anti illegal alien, or any other socialist cause they can congregate for and block traffic. ahh yes, the city by the bay..where if you dont clean up your dog's shit can result in a $320 ticket but people shitting in the street is absolutely acceptable. (No joke, look it up!)
. . . I guy in his mid 20's having sex with a 40 yr old is one HELL of a learning experience
in Arlington when I was in high school . . .
... Then in San FranSICKO, you have the women who march for whatever metoo cause, antitrump, anti illegal alien, or any other socialist cause they can congregate for and block traffic. ahh yes, the city by the bay..where if you dont clean up your dog's shit can result in a $320 ticket but people shitting in the street is absolutely acceptable. (No joke, look it up!)
Since there are so many gay guys there, I would think the straight guys would be in big demand by the straight gals.
Or is there a shortage of straight gals also ?
:-X
Yeah well, the dude who ran that city is now running the state. Between him, Pelosi, Feinstein and Garcetti - feces-ladened, garbage strewn, typhoid/bubonic plague infested sidewalks all throughout the state, not just SF, is becoming a reality sooner than later. The only reprieve in Gavin's election was it marked the end of Brown's administration. Slightly.
Wifey used to like SF, a lot. First 6 years of her arrival, we'd be at St Francis for their NYE's bash (first one was at Hyatt Embarcadero). It was then a yearly tradition for us including eating at Morton's across the street for our NYE's dinner before the bash. She also liked that walk from Union Square to P39/F-wharf. Today, as a registered Republican, I couldn't pay her for a weekend trip up there.
ML: Communist/socialist Leftard feminists are also straight...does it matter?
Braddah, Union square is full of hookers now. The city is a toilet. CA politics is a joke bc these bozos have been in office since the 80s (Arnold being the temporary exception) and nothings been done.
I cant wait to leave this toilet however, I saw my neighborhood real estate agent walking her dog last night and we talked about the neighborhood housing prices. She said current market for our neighborhood is $1.2M I nearly fainted.
Big Island Pu'uohonuaHo'naunau area, your son will be returning shortly!
That's too bad really. I always liked SF. We used to live in Campbell, and remember driving up the city was always a fun adventure. The state's politician's are fairly zany. Every city is broke. The 4th/5th largest economic state, the state being a sanctuary state - yet every city is broke. Go figure. We just had a special election yesterday here in LALA...an attempt to tax us for more money. Ours is Measure 'EE'. We're told the school (LAUSD) needs more money to educate our kids (LMAO, right!). Happy to know there's still a slight majority who haven't completely lost sanity and bit into that.
http://ballotpedia.org/Los_Angeles_County,_California_ballot_measures
With Gavin's current migrant exodus leading them to the promised land, best they tax these eager libs - not us - and let them take care of their politician's social experiment.
Older brother have a 3 story, 4 bedroom Victorian home on Noe Street. Fully paid. Sez it's his retirement plan and soon to ditch the city before it gets trashed..
GQ: What city in LA you live in? I have a daughter in Arcadia that I drive down to see from time to time. Also my best friend from college lives in Valencia across the frwy from Magic Mtn. Im coming down to San Diego for a Big Cigar event in August.
My family, and husband's were victims of all those "cool communists". Most of husband's family was liquidated. Mine were fortunate, as they lived in Western Ukraine, so were only sent to gulags.We saw