Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU

[BC]

Fear of rejection comes to mind.  Gotta open your mouth to ask for a date.  They are not going to just jump in your lap or sack.

[John Gaunt]

This thread should be renamed as ‘ Trenchcoats  BIZARRE Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating Women in General’

[Trenchcoat]

This thread should be renamed as ‘ Trenchcoats  BIZARRE Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating Women in General’

Some people think at a deeper level than ones wallet JG

[John Gaunt]

Some people think at a deeper level than ones wallet JG

I beg to differ, you only think about how your wallets likely to be affected in your fantasies interactions with women.

[2tallbill]

NOTE TO NEWBIES read my advice on this post. Trenchcoat won't take it but
this is a blueprint on how to be successful during the search phase.

You're forgetting I'm not a Bill Clinton lookalike Bill

I could have dated more women, I don't think my everyday looks would take me to 30-80 women unless possibly if I was out there for a long stay and could meet up there & then and hitting it real hard, even then I doubt it.

First of all read what I write, don't add or subtract stuff. I did not say you should have
physically dated 80 women, I said you should have dumped them. If you have questions
when I say something just ask them, stop assuming things you since you are nearly
always wrong.

What you do is you send out a letter to 20 Fdate women who meet your criteria. I don't know
what your percentages of response are let's say 7 respond, you sort through those narrowing
it down to 3-4. Then you get them on Skype or a similar messenger and dump any of those
who aren't both interesting and interested.

What if none of the 3-4 are both interested in you and interesting to talk to? Then you
dump them all and send out letters to 20 new Fdate women. Lather, rinse and repeat
until you find a girl who is interested and interesting to talk to on Skype.

This practice will make you better at communicating on Skype and you will become more
efficient at sorting through women.

Once you find an EXCELLENT Candidate using this process, go see her.NOTE THAT
I said using this process. Shut up about not liking Skype, that is why you aren't finding
good candidates. Just do it and eventually you will find a girl who is beautiful, interesting
and interested in YOU.

I'm finding I'm getting more girls up on Fdate in their 30s

Stop interacting with any woman who is less than 30 years old. Take your age, subtract
10 years and that is the absolute youngest women you should ever contact. If you push
that envelope then you will encounter women with less than stellar intentions. You need
a girl with stellar intentions so make the 10 year maximum age gap a hard and fast rule.

Udachi!

Bill

[ML]

You need a girl with stellar intentions so make the 10 year maximum age gap a hard and fast rule.

What about the girls whose only intentions are to use you for sex ???

[Trenchcoat]

What about the girls whose only intentions are to use you for sex ???

LOL, that's a brilliant one ML

[Trenchcoat]

Stop interacting with any woman who is less than 30 years old. Take your age, subtract
10 years and that is the absolute youngest women you should ever contact. If you push
that envelope then you will encounter women with less than stellar intentions. You need
a girl with stellar intentions so make the 10 year maximum age gap a hard and fast rule.

Udachi!

Bill

That's a good advice Bill. I've just woken up in the middle of the night and done a quick search on Fdate. In all honesty most of the girls on there well I wouldn't really say they look any worse than the younger girls over ten year age gap anyway. So better off going for them they will be on the whole more serious I reckon. I had strayed a little and was going for women about 30 odd (I'm currently 43) and although I was getting responses I think it was half hearted from the girl in many cases. I don't look that old for my age in my photos at least but I think they still go by your written age a bit and I guess I do vice versa.

[ML]

In all honesty most of the girls on there well I wouldn't really say they look any worse than the younger girls over ten year age gap anyway

That's because their pictures were 10 years old.

[Patagonie]

I am going to take this one step further in regard to dating Women.

Some women always end up with "Bad Boys"
Some women always end up with men with addictive problems
Some women always end up with men who treat them horribly.
Some women friend zone men and then use them. 

STAY AWAY from those women. Something is wrong and you don't have
the knowledge, training or ability to help them. They won't be interested
in you romantically for any long period of time and they will revert to seeking
out what harms or is harmful to them.

Find a woman who wants you. Find a woman who is romantically interested
in YOU.

Hollywood makes movies about how these girls realize that they always wanted
a good guy and they decide to become romantically involved with the guy that
they've friend zoned.

THAT CRAP NEVER HAPPENS. It's a Holly-weird formula romantic film marketing
for women. It's as real as Superman flying and having X-ray vision. It's as realistic
as Wonder Woman blocking machine gun bullets with her wristbands.

Well said Krim

[krimster2]

c'est moi?
non, c'est Beel

[ML]

c'est moi?
non, c'est Beel

If something is rated 'well said', then take credit for it . . . regardless.

[krimster2]

Republicans... (sigh)

[Patagonie]

c'est moi?
non, c'est Beel

lol sorry  Keep me informed if you move along the Ukrainian area.
Will be soon again there.

[2tallbill]

So many profiles I have seen of Ukrainian chicks where they are 5'4" it's like the standard out there lol. A real pain as a 6ft guy it's not that ideal. I like a good height match up so for me 5'6" - 5'9" to my 6'0" is probably about the ideal. The first girl from Mariupol that I met in Kyiv was a little unusually tall I think about 5'10" or 5'11" in high heels she matched my 6'0" almost exactly. She didn't like the feeling of towering over guys as many chicks don't so she just about got away with it.

If girls are taller in Moldova then it could be a good place for me. It's not so much that I mind short girls I don't but the practicalities aren't the best. Firstly sex alignment, secondly kissing alignment, thirdly feeling like you're with a kid, fourthly her issue with high heels. There are work arounds so it's not the end of the world but it's more handy with comparative height match up I think.

So did you meet any girl where it's a goer?

Did you at least get your leg over one of them?

Firstly 6ft tall is not that tall. If you don't know how to align sexually with a 5' 4" tall
woman then you need to learn more, she can probably help you.

I am 7 inches (18 cm) taller than you and everything works and fits perfectly with women
up to a foot shorter than I am. I have had sex with shorties which for me is (5'-0" to 5'-4")
and made it work. They know what to do to wrangle with a tall man so let them do it. Maybe
you will learn something and enjoy learning (for once).

You haven't had seks in years, go ahead and try it. It's really fun.

You are fairly clueless about searching for an FSUW, so let me help a bit.

YOU ARE SHRINKING THE POOL OF FSUW YOU MORON!
You are clearly socially disabled. Shrinking the pool when almost nobody
will go for you is not very smart.

Expand your physical requirements and refine your age requirements to ONLY women who are 39+
Then you will literally have the pick of the litter. You don't deserve nor will you get 20 somethings
or even 30 somethings. They will move on to bigger and better things as soon as the opportunity
presents itself.

You are planning to fail. Some might more accurately say you are failing to launch (You blame covid
and UK fatties, but it's you). How long can you have a thread on preparing for Moldova without
actually going. Covid travel restrictions have ended in the UK in March of 2022

[2tallbill]

Firstly sex alignment

Ask yourself is Magic Johnson, Shaquille O'Neal or Michael Jordan virgins?
Shaq is 7-1 (216 cm) and his wife is 5-7 (170). Clearly you don't know how
to make it work. Don't worry, most women like having seks with men taller
than them. They know how to do it.

What did you do your first time with a real girl? Insist on a handjob? Afterall
that's all you've experienced up till that time.

If you want sex only with 5-11 and up either embrace celibacy or join the pride parade.

 

[krimster2]

I am 6'3" and a geezer
i've had sex with midgets and amazons (at the same time!  what a party that was!)
and i've never had ANYTHING get in the way of "gettin it on"....
certainly not height

your theoretical sexual connundrums
are imaginary...
and I can imagine why, poor fellow...

thing is, there's a lotta lonely sex starved women in the world
only problem is, there's a lotta distance between you and them

distance of not only geography but culture and mindset

once you figure out a way to bridge that distance (I did)
then these lonely sex starved women will all come to you
what you need to do is learn how to signal to them to initiate a "sexual response'
and then escalate it until their clothes come off
worked every time for me, and man i've seen a LOT of FSU red snapper
when presented, I always take a moment to visually appreciate such a sight
even in the bania

when I was young and dating in california, all the wimmin there pretty much just wanted guys to go down on them instead of phuqueing
women would rate guys on their oral 'performance'
poorly rated guys would get dumped

so I took the skills I acquired in that environment
and applied them in ukraine, where guys rarely perform cunnilingus

what was the result of that experiment?
loud moaning
and my sexual reputation spread by 'word of mouth' in my ukrainian social network
which invoked curiosity

yet another sexual paradise I discovered
but now my testosterone is so low, I don't care any more
but it's good to have women around to do all the cookin and cleanin and that's fer sure

[2tallbill]

At face value that's good advice Shadow but things are rarely that simple. The hypergamy scale would be kicking in majorly against me in such a situation. The girl would probably quickly get tired of me if I didn't up my game. I mean it might work but be dependent on the girl and the situation.

You misplace your lack of game for your lack of ambition. Learning Russian, getting to the gym,
getting a better job will all drastically improve your game. This is not about gaming women that
is a short term plan at best. Get into shape, improve your Russian, get a better job those are
things that will change your life for the better.

Around where I live there is always going to be someone either better looking, more money or both. However, some of those are married, already with someone or may not be interested in girl I would be with or not familiar with her, know her, them much younger or older than her, etc.

Thirties for you is a reach unless she is 39. Her kids will probably almost be out of the house.
Shut the F#ck up about babies, shut the F#ck up about babies, shut the F#ck up about babies,
you make one baby, go burn your house to the ground. You will be living in an apartment for
the rest of your life. Your greatest fear is losing your house. If I lose a house, I will just get
another one. A house to me is just a thing. It's far more than a thing to you.

Your second greatest fear is getting dumped for a better package. Find a woman who is 39+
and win her heart. She will want to give it to you. She has spent years alone and has given
up on the locals. She will ride you like a championship rodeo event. She wants to be loved,
since currently you have sex every three years of so, you will fall in love. You will get what
you want. A woman who loves you and wants to be loved by you.

You will never get a desperate woman who clings to you because you saved her from her
corrupt government and poor homeland.

So would she accept me? Or be looking for a guy with a lot more glamorous lifestyle himself not to mention possibly bringing in better money?

The problem with being 39 is that the local UK young men won't go after her. Go search
500 FSU women who are 39 or 40+ . Seek out the FSU version of Jennifer Aniston.
Believe me they exist over there. You just have to filter and filter and filter again.

Shut up with the excuses. Your excuses are mind numbingly annoying. You are lying to yourself
and everyone here.

Immediately dump any girl who makes excuses or tells a lie or isn't honest.

Udachi!

Bill

[krimster2]

what Beel sez is true...
if you find a 35+ yr old jennifer aniston clone, you can just point at her and say "adiso-da" "come here"
and they'll freakin run to you

these wimmin are not only as good as any sex slave sexual phantasy you could ever conceive of
BUT...

will also feed you, and clean up after
and make really good business partners as well

also, if some woman EVER gives you grief, your wife will kick her ass
and you can just smirk at the poor amerikanska
or if birds shoud ever annoy you while you are walking
she'll chase 'em away fer ya!

one of the advantages of having a 6'1" wife

below pic is my half moldovan wife at age 45
my wife is a professional skin care beauty expert who owns several salons in houston and has spent a small fortune on her appearance
cuz she uses it to sell her merchandise to make me $$$ (gotta hit those monthly quotas!)

this is indicative of what ya'll can get out there
I married much, much better than my college friends did who all married and divorced multiple american wives

trench, please do not make comments on my wife's boobs or "I iz gonna go up along side yo head white boy"

[Trenchcoat]

You misplace your lack of game for your lack of ambition. Learning Russian, getting to the gym,
getting a better job will all drastically improve your game. This is not about gaming women that
is a short term plan at best. Get into shape, improve your Russian, get a better job those are
things that will change your life for the better.

Thirties for you is a reach unless she is 39. Her kids will probably almost be out of the house.
Shut the F#ck up about babies, shut the F#ck up about babies, shut the F#ck up about babies,
you make one baby, go burn your house to the ground. You will be living in an apartment for
the rest of your life. Your greatest fear is losing your house. If I lose a house, I will just get
another one. A house to me is just a thing. It's far more than a thing to you.

Your second greatest fear is getting dumped for a better package. Find a woman who is 39+
and win her heart. She will want to give it to you. She has spent years alone and has given
up on the locals. She will ride you like a championship rodeo event. She wants to be loved,
since currently you have sex every three years of so, you will fall in love. You will get what
you want. A woman who loves you and wants to be loved by you.

You will never get a desperate woman who clings to you because you saved her from her
corrupt government and poor homeland.

The problem with being 39 is that the local UK young men won't go after her. Go search
500 FSU women who are 39 or 40+ . Seek out the FSU version of Jennifer Aniston.
Believe me they exist over there. You just have to filter and filter and filter again.

Shut up with the excuses. Your excuses are mind numbingly annoying. You are lying to yourself
and everyone here.

Immediately dump any girl who makes excuses or tells a lie or isn't honest.

Udachi!

Bill

Beel, housing in the UK is not like in the US it's real expensive here just for a tiny place. Also good paying jobs aren't readily available here unlike in the US and the ones that are want a ton of experience and qualifications.

I'm not sure why you keep banging on about these old chicks, 39 plus year old, I can get one a few years younger. Once a girls is around mid thirties out there hardly any guy will touch her especially if she had children in the FSU and not that many in the west either.

A few weeks should hopefully mean I will be out there and able to get cracking on these women.

[krimster2]

so if you saw a 35 yr old Elizabeth Hurley
you'd pass...????

ok...
how can a begger choose?
sorry mate, that pound has dirt on it, you can have it back...
i'm beginning to think the problem is that Trench and Reality don't live in the same neighborhood
he lives in some other place
called TrenchLand, where's there's always an apartment to work on instead of working on your life
and that becomes a crutch to lean on, so he doesn't have to fix anything at all

trench, you're a slacker
and that ain't compatible with havin a woman
it'd be like you refuse to bathe and have terrible body odor
and then try hittin on girls
it's obvious to everyone else it ain't gonna work out
EXCEPT to the dewd with the body odor
that's so weird

Ecce Homo
i really think the world is gonna be a much better place when AI takes over
humans are too messed up

[Trenchcoat]

so if you saw a 35 yr old Elizabeth Hurley
you'd pass...????

ok...
how can a begger choose?
sorry mate, that pound has dirt on it, you can have it back...
i'm beginning to think the problem is that Trench and Reality don't live in the same neighborhood
he lives in some other place
called TrenchLand, where's there's always an apartment to work on instead of working on your life
and that becomes a crutch to lean on, so he doesn't have to fix anything at all

trench, you're a slacker
and that ain't compatible with havin a woman
it'd be like you refuse to bathe and have terrible body odor
and then try hittin on girls
it's obvious to everyone else it ain't gonna work out
EXCEPT to the dewd with the body odor
that's so weird

Ecce Homo
i really think the world is gonna be a much better place when AI takes over
humans are too messed up

Krim, the UK does not support hard work, you can work hard but get little more than the guy who doesn't. So me uping and going after another job is like causing myself needless anguish for little reward. The best I could do is double my hours at work I would go from earning about £14.5k to £29k per year. However, while the first £12.5k of income is untaxed everything after that £12.5k is tax at roughly a third (Income tax & National insurance tax). So of that £29k I would only get £23.5k after tax as opposed to £13.8k currently after tax. So ok I would get about almost £10k more but I would be spending most of my life at work. Once my house is done I can get £7.5k a year free of tax income through the government's rent a room allowance. I could do both and get nearly £17k extra a year so £31k a year in total after tax and that would be doing pretty well except for spending a lot of my time at work. That or keep present hours at work and get £21.5k after tax so have more time and not bad mostly tax free income.

That is no doubt all small fry money to you but there's not a lot of scope for doing better. Many of my countrymen are likely doing worse working in jobs that are stressful or tiring each day full time and getting a lot of their pay go on tax, rent or mortgage, living costs, etc.

One of my issues is that my job while I mostly enjoy it wouldn't be seen by many as a 'good earner' type of job even though the money that can be earned isn't too bad in general. A lot of jobs that may be seen as 'good earner' jobs either aren't so in reality after tax or they are difficult to get and come with a lot of stress & ordeal.

So that brings me to businesses, ok if one can get a business that doesn't fail as one of the 70 percent in the first five years and bring decent money in, great. There are no assurances of that though. Of course sone businesses can usually be made successful if a lot of investment is made but that's putting a lot of risk on the line. For example I could buy a field and get permission to start a caravan park but then I need probably about £30k to buy new static caravans. I would then need to advertise and hope enough customers arrive. So it's all relative,sone people put a lot of money into a business and don't get it back and end up in poverty.

Hence the idea of being an Author, again no guarantees that will work but even if my grammar is not the best in the world who knows, it's a pretty low risk venture at least.

[krimster2]

Trench's Tiny Tale of Misfortune Due to Trench's Economic Misunderstanding

one day ole Trench was pondering
and he observed that the more money he makes, the more taxes he pays
however, Trench's goal is to pay as little taxes as possible, so as not to be exploited by the government
and the method he chose for doing that is...
to EARN LESS, thereby paying less taxes
OH, THE CLEVERNESS OF TRENCH!!!
one day, Trench will realize that if he quit his day job all together, and worked for himself, he will pay ZERO TAXES and he can make as much as he wants/can
and do what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants
and live where he wants as well

OR

he can be lazy

guess, what Trench chose?

[2tallbill]

There could be some truth in that, but many girls go after the 'hot' guys - the good looking guys, gym rat guys, etc. So while what you say comes into it which the more everyday guy a girl will weigh up with the everyday guy that stuff but a physically attractive guy she won't so much. If anything is said by the girl on that stuff with a physically attractive guy it will be his she thinks they are so right for each other and share all the same this or that even if it's bs or her trying to be a bit that way.

You need to quit with all the incel crap immediately.
You have been given a dozen different options to succeed but you won't do any of them.
You are becoming a waste of cyber ink.

[2tallbill]

He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.
Benjamin Franklin

Ninety-nine percent of the failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses.
George Washington Carver

It is wise to direct your anger towards problems - not people; to focus your energies on answers - not excuses. William Arthur Ward

Most people don't have that willingness to break bad habits. They have a lot of excuses and they talk like victims. Carlos Santana

In football, the worst things are excuses. Excuses mean you cannot grow or move forward.
Pep Guardiola

Excuses destroy success every time.
Jon Taffer

It's part of my Special Forces training. You're taught to come up with a solutions, not look for excuses. Nirmal Purja


You can make a million excuses for why something didn't go well, but ultimately, just fix it and get on with it. Be a solutions person. Emily Weiss

If you make no excuses, there's nothing holding you back.
Travis Browne


People want a cop-out, listen I'm a realist and I talk about motivation, talk about all the things it takes to be greater or are important to win and people want to use excuses all the time.
Mike Ditka