international travel

[krimster2]

in the next 48 hours Iran's Arak reactor is gonna get wacked by Israeli F-35s....
air travel is gonna be 'chaotic' after

Israel wanted to take out ALL of Iran's petroleum production/refining (cut their funding)
but Biden almost had a freakin heart attack
and bribed them not to and do nukes instead

unfortunately Ukraine ain't got this kinda leverage
noted Republican intellectual  'Moscow Marjorie" just went on record saying she HATES Ukraine cuz of the nazis and all
and it's her thumb on the house speaker, threatening to remove him, if he allows a vote on ukrainian aid

couple weeks ago, there was a congrssional resolution condemning Russian kidnapping of Ukraine's children
9 Republicans voted "NO" - they ain't gonna condemn ANYTHING done by Phutin and of course neither will the orange shit gibbon

next couple of weeks will be interestin for the afore mentioned gibbon
election fraud criminal trial regarding misspent campaign funds for porn star hush money to prevent disclosure during election starts on Monday
and a hearing on the bond posted for the appeal of the separate civil fraud trial over Real Estate valuations, turned out to be yet ANOTHER example of shit gibbon fraud!

it seems, the shit gibbons ONLY business model is fraud and his legal strategy is blackmail and intimidation and creating as many delays as possible using fraudulent legal claims
unfortunately,  this country has A LOT OF REALLY STOOPID, GULLIBLE people who believe everything he says, cuz they think he's their messiah leading them to a woke-free promised land
where abortions, and saying "Gay" are declared  immoral and illegal
thanks to the Orange Shit Gibbon and the political spending by the Marble Freedom Trust. a 1.6 billion dollar fund
connected to the Catholic Church, which has more cases of pedophilia than any organisation on the planet...

PS, if ya'll feel that anything I wrote above is 'in error' and I have hurt your delicate 'fee fees'
please submit proof of this error
otherwise take a tylenol

[Trenchcoat]

Wow, looks like it is all starting to kick off, we all got involved in defending Israel's airspace tonight:

http://news.sky.com/story/israel-prepares-to-defend-itself-as-iran-launches-missile-and-drone-attack-13114842

Nearly almost nothing got through! Nearly all drones and missiles shot down!

A complete failure to land much of a blow by Iran.

Now for the Israeli response!

Is it going to be as you say Krim, we shall see.

What we know is that the stuff shot down tonight won't be making its way to Putin so potentially less for Ukraine to deal with.

If Israel/the West hit Iran hard and Iran is forced to switch from supplying Russia to defending itself/attacking Israel then it will likely weaken Russia's ability to get weapons from Iran. That could make things difficult for Russia in Ukraine in the months to come, less ability to hit targets in Ukraine with drones, etc. So potentially good news here for Ukraine.

[krimster2]

yeah, that's the good part
cuz there are the remains of a few hundred Iranian drones and missiles scattered 'cross the middle east
that can't be exported to Russia to be launched at Ukrainian children


official scorecard of yesterday's 'game'

Iran launched 331 missiles & drones at Israel.

- 185 Kamikaze Drones - All shot down.

- 110 Ballistic Missiles - 103 were shot down - Only 7 reached their targets. (with one wounded civilian, a child)

- 36 Cruise Missiles - All shot down.

Iran is calling it a huge success as a 'face saving' measure
Biden is trying to put as much distance as possible between himself and Israel's response so the US isn't attacked as well (which IMHO is what he should be doin)

[2tallbill]

says, cuz they think he's their messiah leading them to a woke-free promised land
where abortions, and saying "Gay" are declared immoral and illegal

Love you like a brother, but

You are always trying to slip a Trump rant into everything.

Saying gay is illegal? Another leftist lie, prove it.

I know it's difficult but try to stay on the topic of that single point. 
Saying gay is not illegal in a single place in the USA.

[krimster2]

google "don't say gay" and disney and desantis....
THERE YA GO!!!! can't say GAY in Florida, even if it's on yur own property, even if yur Disney
so ain't a 'librul lie"

you wanna a tylenol for yur hurt fee-fees?

if it was the 1860s you'd be one one of them poor southerners fighting for massa
while massa's sons were ALL livin large (like Trump during 'Nam - Massa's sons wuz all draft exempt to)
and the thing you was fighting for, was the economic system that made you about 25% poorer than those white boyz livin in non-slave states
back then ifn I told ya'll this, I'd be lynched fer sure as a 'yankee sympathizer'
nothin's changed, has it, other than the label ya'll give me

the fight ain't about woke versus conservative
it's about the morbidly rich (massa) vrs everyone else

the massas are playin ya'll like they always have
they know how to manipulate yur racism, xenophobia and other predjudices
to get you to act against yur own interests
just like them confederate boyz did
how'd that civil war work out fer ya'll?

Phutin uses the EXACT same plan to get Russians to fight for him

what you call a 'librul rant' is my appeal to ya'll to open yur eyes
before ya'll end up like them confederates and russians

and lastly,
I haz established connection between my 'message' and current events in Russia/Ukraine
so my post is not "verboten" accordin to the rules

[2tallbill]

"don't say gay" and disney and desantis....

Try to focus on the Saying gay is illegal part. That was YOUR claim, it's not true, not feelings
just the facts.

Disney was against an education bill that DeSantis supported.

Try to focus on the Saying gay is illegal part. That was YOUR claim, it's not true,
Look it up, I'll wait.

[krimster2]

I said "illegal and immoral"
abortion is losing it's legal protection, and anything relating to gays is immoral to Christian Nationalists and therefor also losing it's legal protection

leading up to the education bill was the struggle over "Gay Day" at Disney
this offended Christians cuz they saw a rainbow flag (poor souls)
but the controversy turned Disney "WOKE"
and this offended Christian so called morality even more

so DeSantis decided to capitalize on that for his political gain
it's all VERY "straight" forward, not hard to understand this strategy

I really don't know anything about "the gays" i'm not part of their culture
but what I do understand is how autocrats need to find a victim to feed to the mob of haters they unleash for their political gain
it's why my family moved to the USA from what is now Ukraine immediately after the first (Don't say JEW) Pogrom
and for that reason, I just don't react to rainbow flags

[2tallbill]

I said "illegal and immoral"

Yes you did, proving I am right and you are wrong.

Next if you wish

The Disney gay fest first documented event, was in June 1991.
The educational bill came independent of anything gay Disney did or didn't do.
Disney protested the educational bill, not vice versa, like you claimed.

You can present an argument but you won't be able to stick to the point. Most libs
jump around like a squirrel dropped into a frying pan.

I am a free speech zealot, especially if I disagree with you.

[krimster2]

well then homey, you want me to show ya WHY yur NOT correct....
okey dokey then!!

turns out Disney operates an educational institution in Lake Buena Vista, Florida near Walt Disney World
called "The Disney Imagination Campus" and THAT DOES sound REALLY GAY if you ask me!
so... THEY ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE "DON'T SAY GAY" LEGISLATION!

the genesis of this began over "Gay Day" and rainbow flags and IS NOT disconnected from it, as you imply, but an escalation of it

it escalated more recently during an election cycle featuring increasing right wing christian attacks that are POLITICAL,
what happened to "render unto Caesar" and stayin out of the secular world?
MONEY is what happened!

these attacks are being used to aid right wing polticians, like DeSantis and the bible sellin' orange shit gibbon, who knows the bible by heart LOL
and these attacks are funded by the billionaire donor class not because of their Christain beliefs, but because of their belief in greed AKA "keepitalism"

I don't understand you 'right wingers'
thought you guyz were advocates for 'freedumb"
are there exceptions to that, that those seeking freedom, can't be gay, brown, non-christian?

dem squirrels is good eaten alright, but I already hunted 'em to extinction here
no more squirrels

I aslo bagged me some "moles" they too small to eat
but they got the softest fur I ever felt

PS
I ain't a librul
I is a marxist
marxists believe that labor should decide the basis of the distrubution of production and NOT capital (who will just give it to themselves)
especially since labor is ACTUALLY the source of all that capital in the first place when combined with the country's natural resources, which keepitalists will steal for themselves as well

consider that appalacia, one of the poorest regions of the country
has produced about $100 billion worth of coal
the people who dug that coal, got about 1% of that as wages, and black lung
oligarchs like Mr Peabody got all the rest
and never set foot in the mines

workers create a labor union for the enterprise they are employed in
then all unions unite as a single national union
the national union then becomes a political party and decides policy for the country
this is the essence of marxism
note: Marxism has nothin to do with Stalinism, don't conflate the two
under Stalin, workers controlled nothin

as you can image oligarchs don't like these marxist ideals at all
and that's why the purpose of oligarch media is to push their disinformation on ya, and make money sellin ya'll crap as well

oligarchs are economic parasites and not immigrants who DO A LOT of the hard labor in this country for small wages, so that oligarchs can take most of the fruits of it for themselves as profit
THAT's how it works here

thus far, you've produced nothin at all Beel, that logically disputes with counter arguments anything I've written in this thread...
and between you, me and a fencepost, I don't think ya can

[krimster2]

you were right after all BEEL
I wuz in error!!

The Appalachian region produced about 1.2 Trillion USD worth of coal at CURRENT prices, not the old number I quoted
Appalacian coal miners only got low wages and black lung while oligarchs took nearly the WHOLE danged pie for themselves
and they didn't even bother cleanin up after themselves when they were done

and this is just one of the reasons oligarchs want YOU fighting over gay/trans issues inteada economic justice for the 'common man' workin down in the mine for peanuts
oligarchs don't give a flyin phuque about LGQT issues, but they KNOW THAT A LOTTA PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO! (AKA. "The Southern Strategy")

PS
The Iranian missile score card DOES NOT COUNT "DUDS"
missiles that misfired, and LANDED in Iran, there were quite a number!!!
the duds ended up doing more damage to Iran, than the much fewer number that managed to hit Israel did to Israelis (only casualty was an Arab/Israeli teen girl)

as Iran calls it, a HUGE success

[2tallbill]

thus far, you've produced nothin at all Beel, that logically disputes with counter arguments anything I've written in this thread...
and between you, me and a fencepost, I don't think ya can

It's a historical fact that the Gay days in Disney world came first. Years and decades before the Florida education
bill. You asserted that the education bill was written in reaction/protest to Disney gay days. That is absolutely
not what happened.

You have it 100% backwards. The gays reacted/protested the educational bill at Disney gay days...  after the
bill was written. 

I don't need additional logic, I am only stating the facts as they happened. You got the facts wrong AND in
reverse order. I know the difference between a logical error and a factual error. You can look it up if you
don't believe me. If I got the facts wrong it should be really easy to prove.

 

[krimster2]

"It's a historical fact that the Gay days in Disney world came first. Years and decades before the Florida education"


that fact is NOT in dispute, and I have NO IDEA why yur  creating some kinda 'semantic argument' over it...
as I previosly said...
"the genesis of this began over "Gay Day" and rainbow flags and IS NOT disconnected from it, as you imply, but an escalation of it"
in other words, the ongoing christian conservative backlash against ANYTHING LGBT+
first led to a conservative christian backlash over gay day at Disney (the happiest place on earth)
we'll call this "A"

and then later "Moms For Liberty" escalated this backlash by lobbying republicans to codify anti-LGBT legislation into Florida state law, that effected Disney's Educational campus
we'll call this "B"
to me this logic is VERY straight forward and quite simple to understand
first "A" then "B" 
in what way is this chronological sequence difficult to understand or the relationship between A and B?

however i'm startin to understand why ya 'think' the way that you do


addendum:
when Obama was inaugerated President, he was scheduled to make a live televised broadcast to all the nation's school children
it caused such an uproar among conservatives here in Texas, that we had to bring signed notes so our children could listen to, OMG a Black man speak on TV
didn't have to do that for Bush or Trump for "some reason"

and the things conservatives don't wanna listen to or talk about all have certain things in common