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What's to be sorry about Trench?  Don't stand behind your own words?

We're doing fine, getting ready to go do some quick shopping in town, drop by the ATM machine and get a coffee on the way back, prepare a nice lunch, take a nice 'nap' together. Maybe I'll start working on the pool a bit this afternoon as it's already getting warmer and swimming season isn't far off.  In all, more than you can even dream of doing today which mainly consists of posting drivel here and switching to pornhub every now and again for a quick pull.  Our temporary 'restrictions' are nothing compared to the permanent limits of that which resides between your ears.

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You're at ease at the moment BC but what happens when money starts running out. Not at work = no pay. Perhaps you are retired and odds are the government can keep paying pension till this virus thing is sorted. What about others though that live hand to mouth? I can't see them going long before things get pretty tight.
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and all we hear from the patriots here is how inferior china is...yet they can get the job done and we can not...and now we are the ones paying ransom for TP from the likes of the 'evil' and capitalistic trenchcoat.  by next week he will have a line of women offering anything for his prized toilet paper, which if he were smart he would offer to sell by the foot only, to keep them coming back for more. 

It is during times like this that we must realize differences amongst us will be undeniably amplified. What seems like right for some, will be direly wrong for others. What you might deem as a reasonable step to protect yourself, can easily be considered selfish by another.

Panic situations drive people to such unbelievable behavior. Rightly or wrongly, we must all remember that sometimes sharing information in public may well be well-intentioned by some, but could also proved to be devastating for others...

Having said this, please remember I share this information with you with my deepest and sincere hope it received with equal fervor. I decided to attach the information and not posting it openly so members will have a choice as to whether or not they need to know. I urge you to please be diligent. After receiving the information, decide what's best for you and your family.


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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Having said this, please remember I share this information with you with me deepest and sincere hope it received with equal fervor. I decided to attach the information and not posting it openly so members will have a choice as to whether or not they need to know. I urge you to please be diligent. After receiving the information, decide what's best for you and your family.


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Holy Moses!  That's it, I"m going back to using newspapers,  tree bark and my hand.   Trenchcoat's grand plan has backfired, he should burn the TP before he infects all the desperate ladies in his town.

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I just happened to be browsing about the internet....

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Billy,

you disregarded my previous posts explaining the difference in mortality.  Also, a lot more testing per capita in China was done than in Italy.

Wuhan area has a population of around 11 million.

Recalculate with these additional factors and add in a bit of oranges with your apples.

Sure it started in China before they were able to notice something amiss, detect it and create a test for it.  I guesstimate 3 weeks or so and this stuff moves pretty fast.

BC, you came late to these virus threads but if you go back and from the beginning, I was telling everybody this virus is extremely dangerous and China is lying about their numbers. You pointing me to China's did more testing and implying their numbers are good isn't going to change my mind since they aren't telling the truth. As America and European nations do more testing, you will notice they will have similar results to Italy. Humans are humans. Chinese don't have some super immunity to viruses compared to the rest of us.  When this virus broke out, it was reported it wasn't any more dangerous than the flu which has a mortality rate of .1%. Then it was reported COVID has a mortality rate of 2%. Now it's reported it has a mortality rate of 3.4%. The way mortality rate is calculated is flawed and as more reliable reports come in and provide more weight to China's watered down numbers, the next report on mortality rate will be higher.
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Some meds for the likes of Trench and fellow hoarders..

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Stupidity likely will kill many more than Corona virus

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/dawn-neesom-the-human-race-21669145

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Stupidity likely will kill many more than Corona virus
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/dawn-neesom-the-human-race-21669145

Love that photo of those three ladies engaged in a fist fight over toilet papers. LMAO! I searched and there actually is the video. Happened in Oz.






« Last Edit: March 11, 2020, 09:24:31 AM by GQBlues »
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Love that photo of those three ladies engaged in a fist fight over toilet papers. LMAO! I searched and there actually is the video. Happened in Oz.


One lady had a whole shopping cart full of toilet paper. All those ladies have pretty big butts to wipe though. Hope they get the virus under control. Humanity is only 3 meals away from total anarchy.
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You're at ease at the moment BC but what happens when money starts running out. Not at work = no pay. Perhaps you are retired and odds are the government can keep paying pension till this virus thing is sorted. What about others though that live hand to mouth? I can't see them going long before things get pretty tight.

Trench,

Folks that are not sick are going to work like they always do. Folks that are sick get sick leave. If folks lose jobs because their company goes bankrupt they get unemployment. Work is a necessity and getting to and from work allowed.  Easy or?

Amazon still delivers as well as the postman and other couriers.

I repeat, the intent is not to cubbyhole everyone until it passes, it is to prevent too much overloading of the healthcare system to the point folks can't get the care they need.

As far as the timeline goes, with the measures in place, things should begin to normalize in the next couple weeks when the number of new cases starts to drop a bit and the hospitals in the hardest-hit areas have some breathing room.
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Trench,

Folks that are not sick are going to work like they always do. Folks that are sick get sick leave. If folks lose jobs because their company goes bankrupt they get unemployment. Work is a necessity and getting to and from work allowed.  Easy or?

Then they are playing with their lives, worse than that if they get Coronavirus they could be in for a world of pain as we saw from that New York guy that reported on it he was in hospital for a month. Apparently you get a real bad fever, profuse sweating followed by struggling to breath, not at all good. This isn't a 'oh you're a bit sick go home and rest it for for a few days', you're in for a bad time in a big way with this one.

BBC today reports:

"In Italy, which has seen a steep rise in cases, the prime minister pledged 25bn euros ($22bn) to tackle the outbreak - up from the 7.5bn euros announced last week.

Thousands of flights have been cancelled worldwide as airlines struggle to cope with a slump in demand.

Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte announced the closure of schools, gyms, museums, nightclubs and other venues across the country, which on Wednesday passed 10,000 confirmed infections."

Also,

"The Foreign Office has issued a travel update for British nationals in Italy, urging all remaining tourists to contact their airline operators and return back to the UK."

So it's basically last boarding call for British citizens to get out of Italy or they will likely be stuck there in an ever deepening ordeal that increasingly deteriorates as more time passes. Italy is presently only in its second day of lockdown. The north has been in London lockdown for longer but either way it is still early days. It's when the lockdown drags on and people start to get restless is when the sh*t hits the fan.
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BC, you came late to these virus threads but if you go back and from the beginning, I was telling everybody this virus is extremely dangerous and China is lying about their numbers. You pointing me to China's did more testing and implying their numbers are good isn't going to change my mind since they aren't telling the truth. As America and European nations do more testing, you will notice they will have similar results to Italy. Humans are humans. Chinese don't have some super immunity to viruses compared to the rest of us.  When this virus broke out, it was reported it wasn't any more dangerous than the flu which has a mortality rate of .1%. Then it was reported COVID has a mortality rate of 2%. Now it's reported it has a mortality rate of 3.4%. The way mortality rate is calculated is flawed and as more reliable reports come in and provide more weight to China's watered down numbers, the next report on mortality rate will be higher.

Billy,

I am certainly not here to change your mind, just expressing my thoughts about factors you are not considering.  If any figures are inaccurate it will be in places where testing is limited or not being done for certain groups, like folks that died with flu type symptoms.  Without wide testing where do you think you'll get 'more reliable reports'?  You'll just have to wait till it's over and the statisticians can do their job with the data collected and all factors like the ones I mention considered. 

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"In Italy, which has seen a steep rise in cases, the prime minister pledged 25bn euros ($22bn) to tackle the outbreak - up from the 7.5bn euros announced last week.


BBc reporter messed up on the exchange rate but Italy is following South Korea's footsteps by investing close to $500 per citizen to fight the virus and the damage it's causing. That's a steep price to pay for something that is only infecting a minority of citizens but governments realize the danger because battling this virus on the cheap may end up costing us more.

I'm disappointed in South Korea's reporting lately. They've gotten lazy. The government doesn't want to lie but telling the truth will create panic. I guess they adopted the policy better to tell no news than bad news. Italy continues to report multiple times a day on their situation.

Billy,

I am certainly not here to change your mind, just expressing my thoughts about factors you are not considering.  If any figures are inaccurate it will be in places where testing is limited or not being done for certain groups, like folks that died with flu type symptoms.  Without wide testing where do you think you'll get 'more reliable reports'?  You'll just have to wait till it's over and the statisticians can do their job with the data collected and all factors like the ones I mention considered. 

There are honest doctors that incorrectly diagnosed influenza as the cause of people who are currently infected and for those that died. China's influenza rate went up 50% recently. I understand that but I also understand the Chinese government manipulated the numbers so they don't look so bad to their people and the world so I don't trust their reporting. Both early on of the spread of the virus in China and Italy, doctors will misdiagnose since there was a shortage of test kits early on in both countries so the numbers should be similar before and after the test kits came out but they aren't.
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Trench,

Folks that are not sick are going to work like they always do. Folks that are sick get sick leave. If folks lose jobs because their company goes bankrupt they get unemployment. Work is a necessity and getting to and from work allowed.  Easy or?

Amazon still delivers as well as the postman and other couriers.

I repeat, the intent is not to cubbyhole everyone until it passes, it is to prevent too much overloading of the healthcare system to the point folks can't get the care they need.

As far as the timeline goes, with the measures in place, things should begin to normalize in the next couple weeks when the number of new cases starts to drop a bit and the hospitals in the hardest-hit areas have some breathing room.

BC, hope all is well with you brother.

I have found for Trench to understand anything you must first break it down to a molecular level and then it's only 50/50. However he does have a slightly better percentage than others here.

Trench, the man on the ground has told you numerous times the conditions in Italy. You are clamoring to the BBC reports that parrot all of the other reports around the world. He's living it, maybe he might have a little more cred than you and your reports?

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BC, hope all is well with you brother.

Thanks for the thought FP :)

We're doing fine so far and folks here seem to be doing what needs to be done in a cooperative way and working together with few scuffles.  It is 'different' but we do feel safe knowing things are getting done all around us without any hesitation.  That seems to help keep folks calm here.

Italy should be a 'heads up' for all as far as being proactive goes. I give 'em high 5's for how it's being handled here.  OTOH I'm really surprised by how little is being done elsewhere, especially in my second 'home' with parents in the 80's.  They are being very prudent though on their own, staying at home just as much as we do here.

Be prudent, stay safe and don't catch that dangerous fear bug many are infected with. 

This too shall pass..

Take care of yourself and family buddy!

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Governor of Washington State just announce he's banning gatherings of over 250 people in three counties. Seattle Mariners baseball team season is about to begin. They may end up playing in a stadium elsewhere since they'll lose money playing in Seattle. Musicians with live concerts coming up will have to cancel their events. Comic Con in Seattle had been cancelled before this announcement. Churches that hold more than 250 people at a time will have to turn people away so they don't violate the new. Not a quarantine yet here but another step towards one.


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...There are honest doctors that incorrectly diagnosed influenza as the cause of people who are currently infected and for those that died. China's influenza rate went up 50% recently. I understand that but I also understand the Chinese government manipulated the numbers so they don't look so bad to their people and the world so I don't trust their reporting. Both early on of the spread of the virus in China and Italy, doctors will misdiagnose since there was a shortage of test kits early on in both countries so the numbers should be similar before and after the test kits came out but they aren't.

Maybe this is an exercise in futility but I am still uncertain how exactly China 'manipulated' their numbers when so many intangibles surrounding the discovery of this virus is STILL unknown, including conclusive evidence of its origin, tests/testing criteria, transmission, etc...China, along with other countries, can only hope to slow down the spread (lockdowns, quarantine, etc..) until we get answers to things that are, to this day, still needs to be determined e.g. therapy, cure, fool-proofed test kits, etc..

The rising amount of infection is the most critical aspect of this so as not to cause additional pressure on everyone's health resources which are going rapidly at challenged states. The better the testing methodology, the better the screening and determination. This will certainly 'escalate' the infected number, but hell, that's just the natural progression of any epidemic. Numbers will change and get adjusted later on when most things surrounding this virus become 'known'.
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The panic at least hasn't struck here yet. Was in Raleigh yesterday, Flew into CLT today, stopped by the CVS next to work and TP and Water was everywhere. May be they assumed a larger run on stores since they even had it in the beer Aisle. At least for now no one is making a final TP run to stock them for the next 2 decades.

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LOL... I guess we'll be spared from the Great TP War here as most here have a bidet available with TP used only as a pre-wash wipe..  Heck, we even have a well if public water goes out.  If the electricity goes away we can always use buckets I guess.  TP is overrated anyway, only a smear job.  I miss the bidet when back home in the US.  Heck even the shower heads are stuck way up there and can't be pulled down to properly wash the nether areas.  It's very hard to stand on your head in the shower trying to scrub..

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I am still uncertain how exactly China 'manipulated' their numbers


Manipulation works like this. North Korea reports zero deaths and zero infections. They have presented to the world a look inside their nation that is different from reality. Even without test kits, lab tests from a culture sample of a live or dead person will reveal a new virus never seen before. So if a person isn't infected or died from the usual suspects, it's COVID-19.

There have been western media reports like the one below written a few days ago where hundreds died and thousands are quarantined in N Korea. I trust the witnesses that leaked the info more than North Korean government reports. The reports from the Italian government are trustworthy which gives us a realistic idea on how dangerous this virus is.

http://www.businessinsider.com/almost-200-north-korean-soldiers-died-coronavirus-2020-3

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Maybe this is an exercise in futility

It is.

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I live in Austin Texas these days and they have a HUGE
music industry here with all sorts of festivals and things
like that.

One of those festivals is called South by South West and
it's pretty big. Along the same lines as Coachella and
Lollapalooza.

GQ will know about these festivals and a few others, but
those who don't know it's big over $600 million dollars
big. Tech companies come in for it and have conferences 
and catch a couple of shows.

It's been cancelled and the locals are bummed.

That's all I know

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I live in Austin Texas these days and they have a HUGE
music industry here with all sorts of festivals and things
like that.

One of those festivals is called South by South West and
it's pretty big. Along the same lines as Coachella and
Lollapalooza.

GQ will know about these festivals and a few others, but
those who don't know it's big over $600 million dollars
big. Tech companies come in for it and have conferences 
and catch a couple of shows.

It's been cancelled and the locals are bummed.

That's all I know

Udachi!

Bill


For those who want to learn something about South by Southwest
Website is here
http://www.sxsw.com/

When I lived in Austin it was the year that Drunk Driver at SXSW took out a couple of pedestrians. I always hated driving during that period. An already congested road system became far worse.

I also saw the Mobile World Congress and E3 got cancelled too, both similar in cost to SXSW. Gonna be a hard hit for sure.

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I live in Austin Texas these days and they have a HUGE
music industry here with all sorts of festivals and things
like that.

One of those festivals is called South by South West and
it's pretty big. Along the same lines as Coachella and
Lollapalooza.

GQ will know about these festivals and a few others, but
those who don't know it's big over $600 million dollars
big. Tech companies come in for it and have conferences 
and catch a couple of shows.

It's been cancelled and the locals are bummed.

That's all I know

Udachi!

Bill


For those who want to learn something about South by Southwest
Website is here
http://www.sxsw.com/

On the one hand, I'd like to think it's a good thing until things simmer down a bit with this whole virus madness.

But OTOH, I feel for wifey because she's battled for the tix for my b-day since LAST YEAR. She was looking forward to this for two major reasons. One Leningrad was scheduled to play, and 2) Arroyo Seco Festival was already cancelled last summer because the natives of Pasadena were clamoring too much about noise control. Couldn't bear the possibility of missing both.

We're waiting to see the final commitment/line-up from the slew of performers to find out what the ultimate impact of the postponement is going to be.

It might still be OK since I'll be one of the few old farts in the festival anyway, and postponing it would be more beneficial for old farts like me than 99.9% of the expected crowd, hahah!
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2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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In all fairness Italy was the first one the other day who published for the world to see the actual Mortality to Recovery rate. Before that the WHO were lying to the world.

Here I've just booked my yearly mandatory car MOT for next week. It was due it anyway near the beginning of April so might as well so it now. With a bit of luck I'll get in before the virus gets all over the place. If the MOT was to lapse  through not being able to get it done or to avoid the virus I would be stuck with no car to legally drive while the virus stuff goes on not least as car spares may get more difficult/expensive to obtain.

Cases are currently around 460 but I'm in Dorset at the moment at the family home. In Dorset it's stayed at 3 cases since two days ago. So I'm lucky that I'm not stuck in the more risky areas at least so far. So it's still an little uncertain how things will work out for the uk. We have the NHS so it will be interesting to see whether that will help keep the numbers down from the rocketing numbers we have seen in other countries.
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In all fairness Italy was the first one the other day who published for the world to see the actual Mortality to Recovery rate. Before that the WHO were lying to the world.


More Trench twaddle

Italy has NOT changed it's reporting methodology

As of yesterday ..12.4 k reported infections ...827 deaths   ...

Italy has the oldest population in Europe, with about 23% of residents 65 or older...  Most of the deaths are ppl in their 80's/ 90's



 


 

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