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Promised help from the west is not arriving in Ukraine.
« on: March 20, 2022, 09:13:12 AM »
A Ukrainian soldier in Mariupol was pleading for the promised SAM's help from the west yesterday.


He was directly asking Biden and Macron where the promised SAM's are.


A Ukrainian  MP in Kiev today was asking the same question...he said the promised military equipment had not arrived.
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Promised help from the west is not arriving in Ukraine.
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2022, 09:18:38 AM »
Not to be flippant at this critical time but . . .

Supply chain bottlenecks ?
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Re: Promised help from the west is not arriving in Ukraine.
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2022, 09:28:09 AM »
Could well be.


Options for getting military equipment aid to Ukraine...as well as humanitarian ...must be getting increasingly difficult.






























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Re: Promised help from the west is not arriving in Ukraine.
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2022, 10:12:45 AM »
A Ukrainian soldier in Mariupol was pleading for the promised SAM's
help from the west yesterday.

Tell him to go to Poland and pick it up.
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Re: Promised help from the west is not arriving in Ukraine.
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2022, 10:27:13 AM »
The export model of S-300 has a range of 150km.  At the same time, RU is using stand-off weapons, staying near their borders, their planes firing missiles deep into UA. This is due to short-range anti-aircraft made available to UA. Countries willing to give their S-300s also want their stocks backfilled.

I don't know how much support there is for providing weapons that can be used to shoot down planes in RU airspace.

Similar issues are involved with providing MIG fighters.

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Promised help from the West is not arriving in Eastern Ukraine.
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2022, 02:42:10 PM »
Similar issues are involved with providing MIG fighters.

Yes, Poland and others expect if they send one MIG29 ($5-8 million) they
expect in return a free F16 fighting Falcon ($20-30 million depending on
options).

The USA just approved over $30 billion for Ukraine. The UK is spending
1% of that amount. The Netherlands might be willing to kick in $10 million
USD1. Czech Republic $8.5 million USD worth of aid.






1. The goods in question are 3,000 combat helmets and 2,000 ballistic vests
with accompanying armour plates, 30 metal detectors and 2 wire-guided
detection robots for land and sea mine detection, 2 ground surveillance
radar systems and 5 weapon locating radar systems, and 100 sniper
rifles with 30,000 rounds of ammunition.
http://www.government.nl/latest/news/2022/02/18/the-netherlands-intends-to-supply-military-goods-to-ukraine
« Last Edit: March 20, 2022, 02:52:57 PM by 2tallbill »
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Re: Promised help from the West is not arriving in Eastern Ukraine.
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2022, 03:31:06 PM »
Yes, Poland and others expect if they send one MIG29 ($5-8 million) they
expect in return a free F16 fighting Falcon ($20-30 million depending on
options).

Where are you coming up with that?  Everything I have read says that Poland offered to give their Migs to Ukraine if the US would let them BUY F-16's to replace them.

I haven't seen anyone other than you suggest that Poland wanted F-16's for free.

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Re: Promised help from the West is not arriving in Eastern Ukraine.
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2022, 06:06:22 AM »
Where are you coming up with that?  Everything I have read says that Poland offered to give their Migs to Ukraine if the US would let them BUY F-16's to replace them.

I haven't seen anyone other than you suggest that Poland wanted F-16's for free.

I did a little research and sure enough, I was wrong. Poland did agree to
pay for them.
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Re: Promised help from the west is not arriving in Ukraine.
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2022, 02:28:12 PM »
We've delivered a load of anti tank gear to Ukraine and have just promised thousands more as this article tells:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60858511.amp

We keep ramping up the sanctions on Russia also and are now planning to hit their gold reserves.

Yesterday Britain delivered over 100,000 medical supplies to Ukraine, vital medicine that is needed to treat medical problems. So the UK I firmly believe is delivering on what it says. Some nations are all talk and no action though.
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