Operation White Panther

[krimster2]

yup, you went fishing and instead of catchin a fish, you ended up with a hook in yur mouth
and ya don't wanna pull it out, cuz it hurts when ya do
the more you want something, the harder it is to not want it


the secret to satisfying yur desires is to have none
and just live yur life, and be able to receive that what comes to you ALL on it's own (or so it seems, for this is part of the illusion)

a wise man will arrange his life wisely

if you are a hunter you seek out the game trails and the watering holes
and all ya have to do is watch and wait until the animals ALL come to you
with NO EFFORT on yur part
as opposed to unsuccessfully STALKING one animal

it's no more difficult to get a random ukrainian woman to "come to you"
than it is to get a cat to come to you, by saying "here kitty kiity" and scratching it at the base of the tail
and then it starts purring

same thing

why ya wanna go to the zoo and pull the lion's tail?
instead of petting a little pussy cat?

eh Monsier?
le grand passion....
you French are hopeless with yur passion and yur cheeses
but you do have some intellectuals I respect

[Patagonie]

My dear friend Pat.

That is exactly the problem.

You went there for 2 weeks to spend with  her right ?

Dear ML 
I met her in Asia while I was there for six weeks in vacation. 
Then we met on a dating site   
After two meetings, 
We decided that she will come to my country. 

[ML]

Pat, how many days did you wait for her to even agree to first meeting ?
And how long did meeting last ?

Then how many days elapsed before she agreed to second meeting ?
And how long did that meeting last ?

None of this is my business of course, so don't answer if you wish; and in future I  will  only contact you privately about this.

[Patagonie]

yup, you went fishing and instead of catchin a fish, you ended up with a hook in yur mouth
and ya don't wanna pull it out, cuz it hurts when ya do
the more you want something, the harder it is to not want it


the secret to satisfying yur desires is to have none
and just live yur life, and be able to receive that what comes to you ALL on it's own (or so it seems, for this is part of the illusion)

a wise man will arrange his life wisely

if you are a hunter you seek out the game trails and the watering holes
and all ya have to do is watch and wait until the animals ALL come to you
with NO EFFORT on yur part
as opposed to unsuccessfully STALKING one animal

it's no more difficult to get a random ukrainian woman to "come to you"
than it is to get a cat to come to you, by saying "here kitty kiity" and scratching it at the base of the tail
and then it starts purring

same thing

why ya wanna go to the zoo and pull the lion's tail?
instead of petting a little pussy cat?

eh Monsier?
le grand passion....
you French are hopeless with yur passion and yur cheeses
but you do have some intellectuals I respect

 
     
Thank you Krim for all your support. 
           
I will remind this one: 
the secret to satisfying yur desires is to have none   
and just live yur life, and be able to receive that what comes to you ALL on it's own 
And this one       
a wise man will arrange his life wiselyAnd I agree with this one also:   
the more you want something, the harder it is to not want it   
The crazy paradox, not said here, is that I have postponed to this summer the next appointment. Because logically I should have return in Asia before the summer. But I see my own hobbies, I explained this to her, and she gave me her agreement for meeting me in the summer in my country.
   
So there is a constant balance or I would even better to say unbalance that makes you avoiding something that you want later or a little later. 
It's like some quanta physic that's butchering your mind, and you understand me, because my minds are boiling like yours all the day and part of the night, and you realize that you cannot stand too much on the same saddle, don't you?But the truth is that being on the move is the probably the best engine for knowledge and diving deep in thinking.

[Patagonie]

Pat, how many days did you wait for her to even agree to first meeting ?
And how long did meeting last ?
   
Then how many days elapsed before she agreed to second meeting ?
And how long did that meeting last ?
   
None of this is my business of course, so don't answer if you wish; and in future I  will  only contact you privately about this.

       
7 days, she is a mother working hard with at least 2 kids, she was not in vacation.   
For the second meeting 3 weeks, hard fight to get it.   
For a reason I couldn't guess after the second meeting she wanted me to come back later, which was crazy considering I was only one hour and half away. Earning money was her top priority, she was working non stop, and the situation unblocked when I proposed to pay for a nanny.
The second meeting lasted almost 3 hours, she was falling asleep and needed to go to the bed.
     
Time spent is rarely a real indicator in the game.   
The quality of the meeting is the most important. When I met my ex wife, we met one hour, no more. This was the meeting that decided her to chase me and marry me.   
         
I know my job, both meetings were very good in terms of connection, comfort, number of signs of interest. Without the quality and her interest during those two meetings I would have already bail out.         
I also have to said that from the beginning until two days after the first meeting she was acting normally for a FSU woman in the communication department. Something I don't know has made her changing about this.   

 

[krimster2]

I forgot what it's like to be single and to feel alone...
Je comprends

d'accord!
let it hereby be resolved, one more chance with Ms Moscow, and if that doesn't work out
you should think of Ukraine, and phuque whatever is goin on with the war

I was so hoping my wife would want to go to Ukraine and Russia,
but that hope is starting to slip away

Russians were getting all excited about McDonald's again!!! LOL!!!
it was all BS

this is a reminder of how individual people are connected to what's goin on in the world
imagine bein a middle-aged Ukrainian at the front and yur kids are also at the front or yur a Russian pensioner in a collapsing health care system and yur kids are at the front

it's likely days or weeks at most before we see what Europe and Zelensky are gonna do
I don't see Trump getting Gaza, and I don't see Trump getting Greenland, and I don't see trump getting half of Ukraine
so that means there is no Truce
and the war is STILL ON!!

Zelensky will agree to nothing Putin and Trump puts before him
cuz he "gets the picture" and now so does Europe

if Putin and Trump were interested in PEACE, there COULD have been a truce
but clearly neither of them cares about peace, just carving up ukraine's carcass for theor oligarch buddies
they are two sides of the same coin, a silver temple shekel

[Patagonie]

I forgot what it's like to be single and to feel alone...
Je comprends

d'accord!
let it hereby be resolved, one more chance with Ms Moscow, and if that doesn't work out
you should think of Ukraine, and phuque whatever is goin on with the war

I was so hoping my wife would want to go to Ukraine and Russia,
but that hope is starting to slip away

Russians were getting all excited about McDonald's again!!! LOL!!!
it was all BS

this is a reminder of how individual people are connected to what's goin on in the world
imagine bein a middle-aged Ukrainian at the front and yur kids are also at the front or yur a Russian pensioner in a collapsing health care system and yur kids are at the front

it's likely days or weeks at most before we see what Europe and Zelensky are gonna do
I don't see Trump getting Gaza, and I don't see Trump getting Greenland, and I don't see trump getting half of Ukraine
so that means there is no Truce
and the war is STILL ON!!

Zelensky will agree to nothing Putin and Trump puts before him
cuz he "gets the picture" and now so does Europe

if Putin and Trump were interested in PEACE, there COULD have been a truce
but clearly neither of them cares about peace, just carving up ukraine's carcass for theor oligarch buddies
they are two sides of the same coin, a silver temple shekel

Thank you for your understanding.   
I will be so happy to return in Ukraine if it doesn't work with Madam FSU Asia.   
But about the situation in Ukraine, you are a better insider than me, and it doesn't seem to take the right corner.   
Of course everybody hopes an end, but I don't think that Ukraine would agree to be butchered like a piece of meat after so many sacrifices. 
Do you think that Europe will stand behind Ukraine? You probably know that USA had never been the first to help financially in total. 

[krimster2]

Putin will now be putting pressure on european energy oligarchs to push their governments to drop ukraine
it'll be easy for them to do that

Zelensky has no choice but to keep fighting with or without europe
Ukrainians will fight with molotov cocktails
and they might not be the only ones doing so...

watch where this all is going...and you'll see...

[Patagonie]

Putin will now be putting pressure on european energy oligarchs to push their governments to drop ukraine
it'll be easy for them to do that

Zelensky has no choice but to keep fighting with or without europe
Ukrainians will fight with molotov cocktails
and they might not be the only ones doing so...

watch where this all is going...and you'll see...

   
Putin will now be putting pressure on european energy oligarchs to push their governments to drop ukraine
it'll be easy for them to do that         
May you develop this point?

[Patagonie]

So for those who haven't read all and entering in the ring,The battle plan for the next 3/4 weeks is this one:         
 So I am gonna to finish to send everything to her about the travel.

That will lead us to almost at the end of the month of February
The final message is explaining her a little bit about first necessary step of the procedure for the visa
and, that's mandatory, I have to ask her a copy of her passport.

At the same moment I will ask her address for the women's day.
   
That's my duty, as a man, to send some flowers.
 
Of course we no name and no address no flowers can be sent. The good new is that I will save my money. 
       
And if I have no answer about, especially the passport, 
I will start the game named "minimal communication length", 
It could happen that I will even start this game receiving the copy of passport because of her very poor communication; 
The purpose of this game is to exactly synchronize my communication on her.
   
which consists to write NO MORE letters than she does, and if   
possibly, less. 
This the point where emoji/smileys are going to be very handy.      

I will repeat her messages, sort of "I am good, how are you doing?", sometimes changing it by

 "how are you doing, I am good" to her question"I am good, how are doing?"     

 All mixed with some smileys, I am gonna to shave a lot of time 

And believe me I am very good playing this type of game. I can maintain this BS for weeks. 
       

And then we will see, the wall probably. Her fate. 
   

 

 
 

[krimster2]

"May you develop this point? "

Follow the money!!!

start with the partners in north stream
Nederlandse Gasunie, Engie, OMV, Royal Dutch Shell, Uniper, and Wintershall DEA
everyone on the boards of these corporations will be pushing euro politicians to drop ukraine
in exchange for cheap oil and gas and the banks will all be there to, to launder the sales
just like before

[ML]

Pat, I repeat some of your words:

I met her in Asia while I was there for six weeks in vacation.

But what is Cornelian here is that she is at this moment she is on high economical pressure, even working during her resting time.

She is in Moscow WTF?

At the same moment I will ask her address for the women's day.
That's my duty, as a man, to send some flowers.
- - - - - - -
So is she now in Thailand or Russia ?
What was her profession that she could earn more money in Thailand as compared to staying in Russia ?
How did her 2 children get an education in Thailand?

[Patagonie]

Pat, I repeat some of your words:

I met her in Asia while I was there for six weeks in vacation.

But what is Cornelian here is that she is at this moment she is on high economical pressure, even working during her resting time.

She is in Moscow WTF?

At the same moment I will ask her address for the women's day.
That's my duty, as a man, to send some flowers.
- - - - - - -
So is she now in Thailand or Russia ?
What was her profession that she could earn more money in Thailand as compared to staying in Russia ?
How did her 2 children get an education in Thailand?

In PM, too personal now.

[Patagonie]

"May you develop this point? "

Follow the money!!!

start with the partners in north stream
Nederlandse Gasunie, Engie, OMV, Royal Dutch Shell, Uniper, and Wintershall DEA
everyone on the boards of these corporations will be pushing euro politicians to drop ukraine
in exchange for cheap oil and gas and the banks will all be there to, to launder the sales
just like before

But I don't understand, USA is now taking the European market oil while Russia lost it.
I don't see the logic here.

[krimster2]

I'll use my "Billy Bob" voice, and from here in Texas - try to respond to yur point

the USA doesn't produce enuff oil to be a major exporter, most US oil production is consumed within the USA
I think you're referring to LNG?

Russian gas through a pipeline owned by europeans will be MUCH cheaper--> MORE PROFIT AND BONUSES, which is the whole purpose of life, n'est pas?
the American LNG came in because Russian sanctions created an opportunity for it
and if Trump gets rid of sanctions, then this changes the whole picture
and european energy suppliers will make more money, have bigger bonuses by swinging with Russia
not hard for Putin to sell this to europeans, he did once before, and he will again
after he gets that "Pest" Zelensky out of the way

Zelensky is the only thing between Trump/Putin's carve-up of Ukraine, and the end of Russian Sanctions
Trump is trying to make a weird parallel modern version of the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty, between Hitler/Stalin how'd THAT work out?
now it's between Hitler Jr and Stalin Jr
the more things change...the more they seem to follow the same path, "for some strange reason"

the sacrifice the Ukrainian people made, will all be handed over to the Trump family and Putin
Trump family makes very noble sacrifice, so they should be compensated...right....
which is why no Trump has EVER worn the uniform of his country
Trump's father grifted off renting housing to the US Navy at inflated prices in WWII
and Trump's father bought medical draft deferments for Donald Trump

cuz it's not "what you can do for yur country" it's what yur country can do for you"
only fools like me, put on a uniform and go fight their country's battles
history is full of examples of veterans being dumped in the trash, when they're no longer needed
Trump might be an idiot, but when it comes to his own self interest - he's NO FOOL and he has no morals!

but yur right, a "contradiction" a conflict of interest, and in a case of conflict, Trump has ALWAYS PICKED PUTIN'S SIDE TO BE ON
Trump will throw EVERYBODY under the bus, to make HIS OWN deal $$$ with Putin including the US LNG industry

why?
because Trump is accountable to NO ONE, he is the only person in American history, who is above the law, cuz he was placed on a pedastal by idiots and billionaires and a corrupt supreme court
he's not a president, he's a king, a tyrant, who claims his divine right to rule above the law and constitution
Trump is now the law, and Trump is now the constitution

http://dnyuz.com/2025/02/19/kremlin-message-to-trump-theres-money-to-be-made-in-russia/

see what I mean
Trump has been one of Putin's money launderers for years and years
and now he's in charge of laundering Ukraine
Trump is the only criminal who can never really be charged with a crime, he is above EVERYTHING including the law
"funny" how that worked out and came to be, isn't it?

follow the money...
starting with billionaire Nazi memorabilia collector Harlan Crow
Harlan is just one little "cog" in the "machine"
his job, is to pair up each supreme court justice with a right-wing billionaire, kinda like a "dating agency"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Crow

Putin helped Trump win elections, so Trump will launder Ukraine, and destroy the US government from within
Trump in 1 month, has done more damage to the US government, than the Soviet Union and Russia did in 75 years
it's 100% the raison d'etre of Trump's presidency
to support the interests of US and Russian oligarchs
which are exactly the same
to end the US governement's ability to oppose the Russian and American criminal oligarchy
the way Al Capone took over the Chicago Police Dept and District Attorney's Office  a century ago
only now, instead of Chicago, it's the whole freakin country

this IS what's real!
not the BS about mexican immigrants, gay cowboys and trans people and 150 year old people collecting social security
and being WOKE is all about knowing WHAT'S REAL

and I'm a WOKE Marxist Jew
the only way I could be more anti-MAGA was if I was also Trans and Mexican
and then if any of those MAGA Republican Gringos gave me any trouble, I would scratch those Cabrón Bitches eyes out...meeeeoooowww.....

my bag?
Yes! it's real Gucci! hmmmpf!

[Patagonie]

So for those who haven't read all and entering in the ring,The battle plan for the next 3/4 weeks is this one:         
 So I am gonna to finish to send everything to her about the travel.

That will lead us to almost at the end of the month of February
The final message is explaining her a little bit about first necessary step of the procedure for the visa
and, that's mandatory, I have to ask her a copy of her passport.

At the same moment I will ask her address for the women's day.
   
That's my duty, as a man, to send some flowers.
 
Of course we no name and no address no flowers can be sent. The good new is that I will save my money. 
       
And if I have no answer about, especially the passport, 
I will start the game named "minimal communication length", 
It could happen that I will even start this game receiving the copy of passport because of her very poor communication; 
The purpose of this game is to exactly synchronize my communication on her.
   
which consists to write NO MORE letters than she does, and if   
possibly, less. 
This the point where emoji/smileys are going to be very handy.      

I will repeat her messages, sort of "I am good, how are you doing?", sometimes changing it by

 "how are you doing, I am good" to her question"I am good, how are doing?"     

 All mixed with some smileys, I am gonna to shave a lot of time 

And believe me I am very good playing this type of game. I can maintain this BS for weeks. 
       

And then we will see, the wall probably. Her fate. 
 

     
Guys I will not make it.This plan will not work. 
I have do something  now, in the next 48 hours.
Because it's not anymore about talking about a travel or flowers, but stopping her to be abusive by keeping me away.
It's not anymore about game or FSU, it's about psychological fences that need to be provided to prevent unhealthy behavior, and if nothing changes, to move on.
I remind one technique that I learnt called JEEP and while I was digging a little yesterday night I have found another one called ABCD.But at the end they look close. (it's not NLP stuff). That's what patrician psychologists have in their toolbox to address human issues. 
     
Will post soon something about that.

[krimster2]

yur willy is WRONG, stop listening to him
HE'S FOCUSED ON JUST ONE THING and he ain't lookin at the "big picture" sheeet, he ain't even got eyes!

if yur dealing with a Russian woman...
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT'S BELOW
you DO NOT want a Russian woman, WHO IS NOT honest with you (and Russians are normally the most DISHONEST people I ever met, and I've also lived with Arabs)
don't matter HOW BIG her tits are, take a pass on that
an honest Russian woman, who's good looking, has culinary skills and is empathetic to you is more yur cup of tea
and instead of you finding them, you just make it easy for them to find you
and then THEY find you
and every morning you wake up, you ask yurself, "I wonder how many super models, I'll see today"

l'amour should NOT be about dishonesty and fighting, n'est pas?
if you are traveling in a hostile land, then it's ALWAYS better to go someplace else,
there's an infinite world out there waiting.....

the ONLY way to win a war, is to never have to fight it
how much fun do you get out of this vrs how much fighting
it's not a way to make progress, fighting stops everything

but...now you are addicted to the pain, to the endorphins
you want another fix
you don't wanna go through withdrawal

be strong, kick the monkey off yur back
and be a free man in Paris
and the whole world will be yur "oyster"

mon ami, if you are searching for GOLD, you don't look in a corn field
you look in the mountains, where the GOLD is!!

seek and you shall find


PS
sorry, but my contract says I gotta put stuff about Marx in my posts
so here goes...

marx's use of adam smiths labor theory of value to map out the substructures of capitalism is freakin brilliant.
his description of the inner workings of capitalism almost 200 years ago, are shockingly logical and on point, even now

Trump’s brazen embrace of billionaire ruling partners could be an inflection point in America’s long slide toward rule by the wealthiest - an oligarchy
People are super disenfranchised. They want change, but the only change on offer has been hard-right, even though going that way is objectively against the self interest of the working and middle classes. they still still do it
so here we are...

[Patagonie]

yur willy is WRONG, stop listening to him
HE'S FOCUSED ON JUST ONE THING and he ain't lookin at the "big picture" sheeet, he ain't even got eyes!

if yur dealing with a Russian woman...
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT'S BELOW
you DO NOT want a Russian woman, WHO IS NOT honest with you (and Russians are normally the most DISHONEST people I ever met, and I've also lived with Arabs)
don't matter HOW BIG her tits are, take a pass on that
an honest Russian woman, who's good looking, has culinary skills and is empathetic to you is more yur cup of tea
and instead of you finding them, you just make it easy for them to find you
and then THEY find you
and every morning you wake up, you ask yurself, "I wonder how many super models, I'll see today"

l'amour should NOT be about dishonesty and fighting, n'est pas?
if you are traveling in a hostile land, then it's ALWAYS better to go someplace else,
there's an infinite world out there waiting.....

the ONLY way to win a war, is to never have to fight it
how much fun do you get out of this vrs how much fighting
it's not a way to make progress, fighting stops everything

but...now you are addicted to the pain, to the endorphins
you want another fix
you don't wanna go through withdrawal

be strong, kick the monkey off yur back
and be a free man in Paris
and the whole world will be yur "oyster"

mon ami, if you are searching for GOLD, you don't look in a corn field
you look in the mountains, where the GOLD is!!

seek and you shall find


PS
sorry, but my contract says I gotta put stuff about Marx in my posts
so here goes...

marx's use of adam smiths labor theory of value to map out the substructures of capitalism is freakin brilliant.
his description of the inner workings of capitalism almost 200 years ago, are shockingly logical and on point, even now

Trump’s brazen embrace of billionaire ruling partners could be an inflection point in America’s long slide toward rule by the wealthiest - an oligarchy
People are super disenfranchised. They want change, but the only change on offer has been hard-right, even though going that way is objectively against the self interest of the working and middle classes. they still still do it
so here we are...

[krimster2]

Pat,
what is the "social scene" like in France where you live?
how "connected" are you to a network of people
or are you socially isolated

for some reason, I think you live in Paris, is that true

I saw some of the social life in Amsterdam, some big night time stuff going on
plus Amsterdam has the rooftop partys and gatherings in the summer
very cool, smoking a hookah, with a group of young europeans up on the Amsterdam skyline at night...

Russians have a huge social network, it starts out with family, then friends, people you went to school with, people you work with and so on
Russians are much more "static" than Americans, and tend to have only lived in one place
so they have a LARGE and DEEP social network

dinners are common...
single men and women get to "check eavh other out"

if you go to Ukraine,
you have to figure out how to gain entry to these networks and how to make a "good impression"

then on holidays, etc you do stuff for/with the network
and thisi is how you promote yurself within the network

for example, rent a 12 meter boat for a day for a couple of hundred euros, and bring the whole network on board, coordinate with women to bring food
women will bring bikinnis
THEN,  you tell Monsier Willy to "go knock himself out"

note in Russia, yur lucky to get two good months of boating weather
which also brings a rise in women's hormones
the two can work together VERY much in yur favor

OTOH, in the wintertime it SUCKS in Russia!!!!
the shit will freeze on yur ass in the morning, so I have a custom bidet/samovar that squirts hot water while I enjoy a "cuppa" while reading the Gazetta in the morning doin my "business"
in Russia, necessity is the mother of invention
and to prevent my ass from freezing, I'd invent a fusion powered time travel machine powered by 32 quantum computers if I had to

note
i'm freakin crazy about "boats, if you don't share that enthusiasm
then consider renting an "avtobus" and taking the network on a road trip somewhere
and banyas and skinny dipping at night and so on

you get a bunch of horny Russian women, drunk in the summertime, and the clothes will be coming off, I GUARANTEE IT



here's a video to get ya started to consider an avtobus road trip with a Russian network
it generally has to be some destination with name recognition and/or a body of water

[Patagonie]

Pat,
what is the "social scene" like in France where you live?
how "connected" are you to a network of people
or are you socially isolated

for some reason, I think you live in Paris, is that true

I saw some of the social life in Amsterdam, some big night time stuff going on
plus Amsterdam has the rooftop partys and gatherings in the summer
very cool, smoking a hookah, with a group of young europeans up on the Amsterdam skyline at night...

Russians have a huge social network, it starts out with family, then friends, people you went to school with, people you work with and so on
Russians are much more "static" than Americans, and tend to have only lived in one place
so they have a LARGE and DEEP social network

dinners are common...
single men and women get to "check eavh other out"

if you go to Ukraine,
you have to figure out how to gain entry to these networks and how to make a "good impression"

then on holidays, etc you do stuff for/with the network
and thisi is how you promote yurself within the network

for example, rent a 12 meter boat for a day for a couple of hundred euros, and bring the whole network on board, coordinate with women to bring food
women will bring bikinnis
THEN,  you tell Monsier Willy to "go knock himself out"

note in Russia, yur lucky to get two good months of boating weather
which also brings a rise in women's hormones
the two can work together VERY much in yur favor

OTOH, in the wintertime it SUCKS in Russia!!!!
the shit will freeze on yur ass in the morning, so I have a custom bidet/samovar that squirts hot water while I enjoy a "cuppa" while reading the Gazetta in the morning doin my "business"
in Russia, necessity is the mother of invention
and to prevent my ass from freezing, I'd invent a fusion powered time travel machine powered by 32 quantum computers if I had to

note
i'm freakin crazy about "boats, if you don't share that enthusiasm
then consider renting an "avtobus" and taking the network on a road trip somewhere
and banyas and skinny dipping at night and so on

you get a bunch of horny Russian women, drunk in the summertime, and the clothes will be coming off, I GUARANTEE IT



here's a video to get ya started to consider an avtobus road trip with a Russian network
it generally has to be some destination with name recognition and/or a body of water

   
I live not in Paris but not so far from another big city. 
I have isolated myself from the women (MGTOW) except when I am travelling (which happens often).
Recently one of my FSU female friend makes me meeting an Ukrainian woman, we had a good day together, but she was a broken woman and except going to a bed with her I didn't see the point.   
I always dreamed to have such "rings" in FSU but for this you barely need to live there or at least to spend few months in a row.
I all time immensely enjoyed spending time with FSU people, women most of the time, but also men. I had a friendship with a taxi few years. I loved it.
 
 

[Patagonie]

yur willy is WRONG, stop listening to him
HE'S FOCUSED ON JUST ONE THING and he ain't lookin at the "big picture" sheeet, he ain't even got eyes!

if yur dealing with a Russian woman...
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT'S BELOW
you DO NOT want a Russian woman, WHO IS NOT honest with you (and Russians are normally the most DISHONEST people I ever met, and I've also lived with Arabs)
don't matter HOW BIG her tits are, take a pass on that
an honest Russian woman, who's good looking, has culinary skills and is empathetic to you is more yur cup of tea
and instead of you finding them, you just make it easy for them to find you
and then THEY find you
and every morning you wake up, you ask yurself, "I wonder how many super models, I'll see today"

l'amour should NOT be about dishonesty and fighting, n'est pas?
if you are traveling in a hostile land, then it's ALWAYS better to go someplace else,
there's an infinite world out there waiting.....

the ONLY way to win a war, is to never have to fight it
how much fun do you get out of this vrs how much fighting
it's not a way to make progress, fighting stops everything

but...now you are addicted to the pain, to the endorphins
you want another fix
you don't wanna go through withdrawal

be strong, kick the monkey off yur back
and be a free man in Paris
and the whole world will be yur "oyster"

mon ami, if you are searching for GOLD, you don't look in a corn field
you look in the mountains, where the GOLD is!!

seek and you shall find


PS
sorry, but my contract says I gotta put stuff about Marx in my posts
so here goes...

marx's use of adam smiths labor theory of value to map out the substructures of capitalism is freakin brilliant.
his description of the inner workings of capitalism almost 200 years ago, are shockingly logical and on point, even now

Trump’s brazen embrace of billionaire ruling partners could be an inflection point in America’s long slide toward rule by the wealthiest - an oligarchy
People are super disenfranchised. They want change, but the only change on offer has been hard-right, even though going that way is objectively against the self interest of the working and middle classes. they still still do it
so here we are...

 
So considering the last communication I had with the FSU lady from Asia just this morning
I would say that Krim is wrong about my case. 
He is right for most men. Because it's true that men are driven by willy, and that's worse if they are younger. 
But Krim, willy has nothing to do with me driving the trip. 
He gets out after, when the action unencloses. 
     
1/ who here has proven that she is dishonest?     
2/ is love is about fighting or following the easy path?         
Good question, mix of both. 
This is the culture of the game NEXT.
This is the culture now of western women who are a little above average at least, they don't fight for a relationship, they don't make any effort, they want rights and princess treatment, and if not they NEXT. 
             
NEWBIES be careful because the truth in the middle. 
Always remind, that there are differences in personalities, differences with the cultures, big problems with the languages, internal insecurity multiplied by ALL the previous factors and the distance.
 It's a poker game, you can read all in the wrong side and get scammed and abused for example, or you can loose a good woman in few minutes and you will never know that you have LOST her!!! 
S&P will not send you a rating and summary of what happened and at the end you learn nothing.This why we have seen the same guys, tours after tours, being ripped off to the bone, and staying in the circuit because they never learnt anything. 
     
And this why this forum is handy. 
Because that's about real stuff, real people, about emotions, love, money, sex and blood
   
And I am here to say that I am so happy to have set up the french touch seduction to the highest level I could.
Because all I did (for the moment, it's a relationship, we never know in one month what will happen) is finally rewarded.
I am so happy to have kept the track. 
ONE THING SAID CAN make loosing the woman, and maybe you need one hundred steps in the right direction to win her.
Krim is promoting industrial shipment,   
I am promoting, if the physical attraction test is passed with flying colors, and the project is good for both of you, the quality, improving your game, vacuuming her in the most incredible emotional adventure she has never dreamed.
You need to remember that dating abroad, you have just your little underpants with you, no house, no boat, no Ferrari, no social proof, no knowledge of the city,  ... and so on.   
Please before leaving your country let your Patek Philippe or Rolex at the house. Take out some cash before the restaurant so your Platinium, black card or whatever stay in you jacket, because else if you are already barking the wrong tree for a real LTR. That's not your fault, that's the fault of your western culture. Nothing personal, you need to disconnect some wires.

[Patagonie]

So I have said already dozens of time western culture would like us to "be yourself" with women.
What a shitty trap.   
Question: are FSU men high profiles act like "Be natural". Be natural, that's a very evasive word. That's BS, that means nothing in fact. 
       
No there are in control, there are composed, they don't loose their temper and self control.  And that, at least partially, what women, especially FSU, women want. 
We are far far from the western conception "be yourself" in love that pushes you to land in the friendzone and you finally use your hand to shake willy (thank you Krim to improve my vocabulary) because he don't want to sleep tonight.   
   
So I turn my tongue one hundred time in my mouth (yes I have the time to do this, that's a luxuary, I do agree) trying to figure out HOW and WHAT I will write to this woman to overcome what I call the "crisis".
Quick reminder: in order to prepare the third appointment which should happen in my country I need a communication to be build. It means a rapport. No online rapport, not travel, no third meeting. Willy stay home.
Which is what I would call a non standard behavior with a FSU woman. 
       
A non standard behavior? Are you sure Pat? Maybe YOU (I) didn't bring enough in MY communication so she can step in and we can start to build a rapport (remotely). Who really knows.
But I want you to remember that men have a lot of power in the relationship, and I would even say that with FSU women more than others because you are supposed to be the driver, to lead. 
   
And now you have a secret weapon 
An incredible weapon, you are allowed to do some non standard FSU stuff, because you havethe official excuse to not be from FSU. So she could feel that special, disturbing, but by conventionshe could think "maybe this is how he does with women in his country". 
Ok nothing too weird. Some borders need to be not crossed. 
Especially about humor in the beginning. I had many crashes with this one. 

[Patagonie]

First, because of all the burden of international dating (I have already given some details about this) 
you are more than likely to easily loose your control (add a translator between you and her and so you have an idea how things can easily been screwed up).     
So be always polite. I have found that it's very important in the FSU life, especially with educated FSU women (and a lot have a high education).   
If you were using some kind word, like "honey", "kitty" DO IT. 
One of my favorite mistake, I tend to HARDEN my communication when I am not happy, bad, my bad 
    

So the basis of ABCD technique (the JEEP technique is very close), which is basically geared towards manipulative people applied 100% to normal life situation.   
                       
The first step is to NAME and to describe what happens, in order to break the ongoing behavior
The second step to express how YOU feel about this, it's not about to make the other guilty. This is very important
The third step is to propose an alternative, a solution you would like to be found
The fourth step is to describe the new emotion associated with this new behavior. 
     
So how does it translate in my case. (we are far from the scenario first scheduled: sending all the program of the travel, asking some info for delivery, then adjusting my communication on her).   
   
First I made a special mention, and that of prime importance, especially if she is new with foreigners. 
Honey, Dear, Kitty put whatever you use to here. 
We are from 2 different cultures. That usually create some difficulties. For example I talked about your ongoing divorce and your venue in Moscow possible linked to this. In fact my skills in Russian don't allow me to know if you are divorced or if you are still in the process (just an example.
   
A Her name, I see that you ignore most of my messages. And you keep some distance with a lot of emoji/ Hi / how are you?                             
B Consequently I feel uncomfortable. It looks like you don't really care about me. It has stopped me to the envy to invite you in my country for the moment.
       
C I you would tell me more about you and invest more time in our communication             
                   
D I would feel a better connection, more respect, and I will therefore be more confident that we start a healthy relationship. I was believing  you wanted a serious relationship.... 
 
Please note that the last sentence is not exactly neutral and a little manipulative (my bad in terms of pure clean communication). 
   
The results? OUTSTANDING next post

[krimster2]

a Russian woman's sense of humor is not like a Western woman's, I can't comment on French women, French women were ALWAYS "passive/agressive" with me, and I didn't like it
so I left them alone, even though as a group French Women, were SUPER intelligent and not at all bad looking, and needless to say culinary  and domestic skills were "superb"
but they were also VERY bi-polar
hence...avoir....

Russian women, have a crude sense of humor
but ya do HAVE to be able to KNOW how to make a Russian woman laugh...
if ya don't then she's gonna be "bitchy" towards ya
ya disrupt that by making her laugh
ya discover what makes her laugh by "trial and error"
but it's usually something crude and vulgar

after a combination of alchohol and increasing intimacy
when one of ya steps out of the shower, naked and the other innocently walks in
it's a very short climb to get up to the point where you put some of that "counter-rotation" on her "suger plum"
there's NO WAY she's gonna tell ya to stop
and if she "comes hard"
then, YOU can lead her around, the way she's leading you around

you each have this power over the other
so you'll have to decide, which one of you is dominant, and which submissive

[Patagonie]

I will tell you how you can easily derail. 
Suspecting from the beginning that a lover was behind this travel, I tried to find out if the kids had school.
So simple just look the Russian official calendar.
And he is saying that kids have school. So she went alone to the Capital, kids staying in Thailand. 
       
So imagine that you start to accuse her to be with a lover in the Capital? 
The problem is that she moved with her kids to Moscow.   
So you start to fall directly in the case weirdo jealous parano guy, and there are plenty of this style. 
Do you think that attractive?       
So in two shorts messages She answered to everything. She understood everything of what I was waiting for.
Not married, her heart is open for love (Damned information I was searching for, because she was acting like she was haunted).   
And as she got wounded she made a photo of her wound. 
What would you do if the lady you like is wounded? 
You CALL
And you call RIGHT NOW
So we chatted 10 minutes, very happy, very excited. That was FUN, a lot of FUNDon't forget to get out guys on a high, don't wait to stall. It's better to get out earlier than too late.You know it when you suddenly think "what I am gonna to say now???" and blank.I normally never stall but all is in Russian language and my command is limited so it could happen.
       
And then she recorded a video where she is spending time in Moscow and start thanking me and praising for the video I shot in my home and all the work I did for the travel. She also thanked me  for the all the attention I gave to her since.
       
She wanted my last words in French written and me sending some links about music.
     
So guys what do you want more???
You want her to undress and start to shoot herself in the middle of her kids at home's parents? Please some respect.
     
   
And here we are, overstaying clouds are vanishing.
   
I strongly believe that you can get more control on your life and so on your dating and so your happiness by
leaving your box and trying to reverse the role.
Do this "what I will do under her skin?" rather than I PRESUPPOSE she did this or did this, which is the main intellectual process used by men here in this forum.