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Re: Is selling items / clothing with USSR emblems offensive ?....
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2018, 09:30:35 AM »
It's not offensive at all.
I prefer 'Authentic' Soviet era items. It seems that Russians have gotten wise about this so deals are harder to come by.
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Re: Is selling items / clothing with USSR emblems offensive ?....
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2018, 10:20:23 AM »
I asked the better half, who was a victim of the USSR.  All of his grandfathers' families in Russia were executed right after the Bolsheviks took power.  His grandfathers escaped by a combination of Providence and being in Ukraine.  All of his grandmothers' families in Russia were also executed.  One grandmother came from a family of world famous academics.  Those academics were too famous to kill, but they lost their positions and lived only by the grace of their families.  His father was jailed for nothing, other than from belonging to a "non proletarian" family, and all avenues of education were closed to the better half because he had not "earned the right to be proletarian".

His answer to me was they should not ban Soviet symbols.  He said, you can ban symbols, but as long as the idea lives somewhere, it is alive. 


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After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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Re: Is selling items / clothing with USSR emblems offensive ?....
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 12:39:28 AM »
They're just jealous that the USSR is more popular than the EU ;D
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Re: Is selling items / clothing with USSR emblems offensive ?....
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 01:02:58 AM »
Trench

This is yet another thread were your 'humour' proves this subject a bridge to far on the comprehension front

One is current and doesn't 'bump off ' dissidents ..t'other was a totalitarian system that no longer exists and some folks have rose tinted visions of the better parts of the USSR ..








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Re: Is selling items / clothing with USSR emblems offensive ?....
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 08:09:03 AM »
some folks have rose tinted visions of the better parts of the USSR ..


For the majority of FSU citizens, the USSR was not a bad place.


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After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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Re: Is selling items / clothing with USSR emblems offensive ?....
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2018, 08:32:48 AM »
how would you compare Stalin’s Soviet Union to Nazi Germany on the Evil-Meter?

both turned ethnic cleansing/genocide into a means of political control
both had massive prison systems filled with “politicals"
IMHO Stalin’s Soviet Union was a more oppressive place to live for average Russians than Nazi Germany was for the average German in the Pre-War period

every where I traveled to in Ukraine
there were mass graves
one of them eroded one time after weathering a couple of miles from my dacha
and human bones started pouring out

mass graves EVERYWHERE

NKVD mass shootings
starvation
deportation with 50% attrition "shipping loss"

of millions and millions and millions of people

if Nazi material is banned....

disclaimer:
relatives executed in ‘37 purge in Odessa


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Re: Is selling items / clothing with USSR emblems offensive ?....
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2018, 09:18:39 AM »
The USSR of the 1970’s and beyond was oppressive and not free, but it wasn’t comparable to Stalin’s USSR.


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After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

 

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