2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)

[ML]

I hope the mask burners nose doesn't sag as bad as the bra burner tits.

Bra was not invented until 1889.

So what did those who were turned off by sagging breasts do back then ?

[BillyB]

Up to 50% of CDC and FDA's employees are not taking the vaccine.

http://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1393281939508011012


See a few mask bikinis holding up breasts just fine.

http://www.google.com/search?q=mask+bikini&client=opera&hs=NwM&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdlenSoszwAhVCnp4KHcW4CJQQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1880&bih=970#imgrc=seYcIfvRXEELVM

[tfcrew]

What I'm seeing that I don't like is if you don't get vaccinated you are forced to wear a mask.  I just read that in Las Vegas that appears to be the policy going forward.   

So in order to tell...vaccinated people must have stated acknowledgement tattooed on their foreheads? 

[tfcrew]

Bra was not invented until 1889. So what did those who were turned off by sagging breasts do back then?

The old 'foundation' trick.
 
 

[BillyB]

Dr. Yeadon, ex VP of Pfizer, felt compelled to make a video about the dangers of the experimental vaccines, the vaccine passports to control us, and the lies told by our governments to get us to comply with their programs.

About 40% into the video, he says antibodies don't play a major role in defeating viruses and the government is lying to us when they say it does. T cells are what is important. 17 years after SARS, they took the blood of those who were infected to see if SARS could infect them again. SARS could not. They recently tried to see if SARS-COV2 which is 80% similar to SARS could infect those people who previously had SARS and those people were immune to SARS-COV2. This is the man that says the vaccination program could lead to depopulation if it makes our immune system dysfunctional. He said for the most part, our bodies will handle the virus and we'll be able to achieve immunity naturally. He also said that there's no reason for a booster shot because variants are only at a max .3% different than the original virus and more unproven vaccines can harm us.

He's against the vaccine passport that can limit where you go. 20 years from now you may not be able to go into a grocery store or allowed to go to your job if you miss your appointment to get a booster shot of whatever they say you need it for. The app on your phone will alert you the appropriate time you need to show up for your shot. Eventually it can be used by sinister people to easily execute the masses.

Are We Being Set Up for Mass Depopulation? (mercola.com)


Back in April 2018, Q warned of election rigging, mass extermination events that will decrease population threat level, and vaccines.

http://qalerts.app/?n=1010

[GQBlues]

When Trump found out what our government organizations and China were doing, he cut the funding and he cut funding to WHO.

http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/29/847948272/why-the-u-s-government-stopped-funding-a-research-project-on-bats-and-coronaviru

http://rumble.com/vgq0vt-theres-more-dr.-yan-says-fauci-funded-more-shady-labs-around-the-world-not-.html

OY BillyB-

I'm not sure why you insist in doing these things. If you need to Google things at the least take the time to first understand what the subject or issue is.


Doing Diligence to Assess the Risks and Benefits of Life Sciences Gain-of-Function Research | whitehouse.gov (archives.gov)


Rand Paul's exchange with Anthony Fauci is not whether or not the US funds, or give grants to, medical researches the world over on a yearly basis via DHH or NIH, or whatever else governing bodies need the funds for..

The exchange with Fauci is more specifically about, including what was SPECIFICALLY banned during the Obama Administration, was *GAIN OF FUNCTION* experiments. The then administration pause funding for this specific phase while they conducted a deliberative process to better determine of its viability and benefit - risk vs reward.

What is G-O-F?
http://www.news-medical.net/life-sciences/What-is-Gain-of-Function-Research.aspx
In short, the experiment is taking an existing virus, and in essence juice it up - make it even more more virulent and easier to transmit to human. The intentional was then to create a defense for such monstrosity ahead of time in the event such virus becomes a pandemic. Whether as a weapon or if it naturally evolved.

http://osp.od.nih.gov/biotechnology/gain-of-function-research/

Then when the report (study) was completed ad finalized its recommendation mid 2016, additional funding was approved January 2017.


 US officials revisit rules for disclosing risky disease experiments (nature.com)

It has nothing whatsoever to do with any other ongoing researches which are perpetually getting grants and funds meritoriously. This would include the *collecting of bat sh!ts in bat caves, bat mobile and/or even in Robin's or Batwoman's buttholes* to gather information exactly how many variations of coronaviruses there are. So your article did little to change the subject matter.

But the specific reasoning behind Dr. Paul's verbal joust with Tony Fauci was because funds got through the Wuhan lab, where they conducted G-O-F and where the suspicion of lab leak *may have* happened, despite the funds being banned in 2014 for such a cause. The current investigation involves looking into *how* funds got to the lab anyway and apparently there are information that Fauci played a principal part in diverting the fund to the lab virtue 3rd-party handoff, or renaming G-O-F for the work-around.

Between Trump and Obama, who is capable of giving money to our advisaries in ways that people won't get suspicious?Was Trump running the DOJ and FBI that hindered his administration and put his people in jail or was it somebody else?Is the person running the DOJ and FBI potentially running other government organizations? Yes. There are conspiracies that say this pandemic was ordered by our people to affect the 2020 election.Patrick Byrne has a BA from Dartmouth, Masters from Cambridge as a Marshal Scholar and a PhD from Stanford. He was national entrepreneur of the year and ex CEO of Overstock. He help bring down hundreds at Wall Street and slept with spies. As a citizen, he help the FBI thinking he was doing good for our country. At the FBI and Obama's request, he tempted Hillary with a bribe and she took it. He became jaded with our government when he found out they weren't going to arrest her but make her president. Obama dictated who was going to be president and he wanted someone compromised so he could control. Obama's people in the DOJ would make sure Hillary followed orders. Although Hillary didn't become President, do you think Obama gave up control?There was a coup in our country. They created the greatest fraud organization in history and planned to use it in future elections. These are sinister people. They want to dismantle the Constitution. They are taking away free speech, guns, and even our votes. Give it a couple of months if you need more time to register all what has happened. Obama deserves praise for nothing. He's evil. You've bought into the fake news idea that Obama done some good.

I don't even know what any of the crap above have anything to do with the subject.

[BillyB]

Rand Paul's exchange with Anthony Fauci is not whether or not the US funds, or give grants to, medical researches the world over on a yearly basis via DHH or NIH, or whatever else governing bodies need the funds for..

The exchange with Fauci is more specifically about, including what was SPECIFICALLY banned during the Obama Administration, was *GAIN OF FUNCTION* experiments. The then administration pause funding for this specific phase while they conducted a deliberative process to better determine of its viability and benefit - risk vs reward.

GOF was never banned during the Obama administration. In 2014, it was suspended for 3 years and was to automatically resume in 2017. There was no need to get Trump's blessing for these experiments in 2017 because they would automatically get implemented. Although suspended in 2014, a few months later with government approval GOF resumed on 7 of the 18 GOF projects anyway. So much for the suspension/ban. We may have helped China create the virus in our bodies. Rand Paul is trying to figure it out without making direct accusations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_of_function_research


Fauci has gone Democrat. He says the Pandemic exposed the undeniable effects of racism in America.

http://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1394239138711449606


Eric Clapton temporarily lost ability to move after taking vaccine.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/hands-feet-frozen-numb-burning-eric-clapton-says-bad-reaction-astrazeneca-covid-jab-feared-never-play/

[GQBlues]

GOF was never banned during the Obama administration. In 2014, it was suspended for 3 years and was to automatically resume in 2017. There was no need to get Trump's blessing for these experiments in 2017 because they would automatically get implemented. Although suspended in 2014, a few months later with government approval GOF resumed on 7 of the 18 GOF projects anyway. So much for the suspension/ban. We may have helped China create the virus in our bodies. Rand Paul is trying to figure it out without making direct accusations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_of_function_research

Banned, suspended, paused...potato/potatoe...He gives me wiki.

I'm done.

George Floyd died in the ambulance. 3 dissenting opinions. Whatever, I say.

[BillyB]

Concerned citizens group approaches Obama administration and says "Our tax dollars are funding the creation of dangerous bioweapons under the disguise of trying to find more powerful medicines. It's call GOF. These dangerous viruses and bacteria can be used against humanity. These programs can be abused."


Obama calls NIH and Fauci and says "I need to suspend the program which is highly controversial. I will order an investigation and a 3 year suspension. After the concerned citizens celebrate a win, go ahead and resume some of those programs before the suspension is lifted. Main thing is I need to show GQ and other concerned citizens I care so they'll spread the word I'm a good guy."

I don't think we know even half the evil Obama is capable of. I hope they keep digging into the origins and funding of the virus so the appropriate people can be held accountable but to get a good investigation we need to get rid of bad government which is going to happen soon.


Cuomo got paid 5.12 million for a book deal pertaining to his handling of the virus. He's one of five Democratic governors that put infected people into old folks homes which in turn greatly inflated COVID deaths early in the pandemic allowing state governments to change laws to increase mail in ballots.

Gov. Cuomo got $5M+ for COVID book despite nursing home deaths (nypost.com)

[tfcrew]

The latest-------
You no longer have to wear a mask unless you are going somewhere.
You still need to wear a mask if you are going to a masquerade ball.

[BillyB]

Chinese professor says China winning wars, including the biological one. He says Trump, the liberals, America and UK all failed. We know what he's teaching his students.


CCP Professor Claims China Defeated U.S. In ‘Biological War’… – Centipede Nation

[GQBlues]

At the onset of this pandemic last year, and during it's insurgency, I remember doctors were reporting severe cases, and at times fatal, of people stricken with this virus. Most, if not all folks died not because of the virus itself per se, but because of how our immune system reacted in its fight against the infection.


The proverbial knowledge today about the benefit of the vaccines is, while it doesn't prevent you from getting infected by the virus, and even spreading it, but that it keeps you from suffering severely (and definitely no longer fatal) as it did before.


Does this mean then the vaccine suppresses your immune system to react to the virus so there is no danger of it over-reacting and damaging your cells much more than it would've?

[Gator]

At the onset of this pandemic last year, and during it's insurgency, I remember doctors were reporting severe cases, and at times fatal, of people stricken with this virus. Most, if not all folks died not because of the virus itself per se, but because of how our immune system reacted in its fight against the infection.

Infection from exposure to the SARS-CoV-2 virus starts in the nasal passages, and in many people it stays there.  These people may even be asymptomatic.  The severe cases of infection result upon the virus reaching the lungs. and the infected person can die of respiratory failure.  The body's immune system indeed combats COVID in the lungs, and in many people the system becomes hyperactive, creating a "cytokine storm."  The reaction if not reversed if attributed to many COVID deaths. 

Why one person dies and the other survives?  Mechanisms, causative agents, etc.  are under study. The reasons are not a "rub of the green" concept (random luck).  All we seem to know now is that comorbidities and age have much to do with whether an infected person survives. 

The proverbial knowledge today about the benefit of the vaccines is, while it doesn't prevent you from getting infected by the virus, and even spreading it, but that it keeps you from suffering severely (and definitely no longer fatal) as it did before.

Yes, one can still be infected after being fully vaccinated.  Yet the vaccine has taught our body how better to fight it.   

Does this mean then the vaccine suppresses your immune system to react to the virus so there is no danger of it over-reacting and damaging your cells much more than it would've?

To the contrary, our immune system is not suppressed.  It has merely been instructed to develop finely-tuned antibodies against the spikes on the COVID virus.    This capacity develops as follows:

1.  The messenger vaccine (mRNA) causes body cells (around the injection site) to produce on their surface just the protein "spikes" found on the COVID virus.

2.  The body's immune system recognizes these fake spikes as foreign and begins attacking them with antibodies.   

3.  The antibodies build up, so if you are exposed to COVID and become infected, the antibodies immediately attack the spikes on the COVID virus, seemingly preventing it from attaching to cells and eventually reaching the lungs. 

4.  I understand the  immune system of a vaccinated perosn is able to produce more antibodies, although I am not sure. 

[GQBlues]

Thanks for that fairly comprehensive response, Gator.


This particular messenger vaccine is the very first vaccine administered in this scale. From what I understand the principal reason it was approved for release and administration was, aside from the obvious urgency, for no other reason than it was easy to produce in this massive scale. IMO, that's not very comforting to know.


If it was because it was easy....


The reported effectiveness is impressive to say the least...over 90%. I just don't like it when the qualifier shows up every time the subject comes up - the hang words, 'so far'.


Also, how did they determined this when we don't even know exactly how many were asymptomatic? Did they vaccinated x amount of persons that tested negative of the virus, then after administering the program, exposed them to COVID-19 and waited for the resulting effect? If so, how did they eliminated the possibility that those persons could have been people that would've otherwise been in the potential 'asymptomatic' group anyway since they seem to be the overwhelming majority?


Don't mind me, I'm just projecting my thoughts trying to make logic in my still pending decision to whether or not I march with the increasing herd. 

[BC]

Also, how did they determined this when we don't even know exactly how many were asymptomatic? Did they vaccinated x amount of persons that tested negative of the virus, then after administering the program, exposed them to COVID-19 and waited for the resulting effect? If so, how did they eliminated the possibility that those persons could have been people that would've otherwise been in the potential 'asymptomatic' group anyway since they seem to be the overwhelming majority?


Don't mind me, I'm just projecting my thoughts trying to make logic in my still pending decision to whether or not I march with the increasing herd.

Quite valid question GQ.  IIRC applicants for the trial were screened to determine if they had covid prior, using antibody tests that should detect even asymptomatic cases.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/why-i-decided-to-be-a-coronavirus-vaccine-test-subject

I got my first BioNTech/Pfizer shot the other day, bit of a sore arm and a bit of chills were the only aftereffects of note.  Although this technology is new, it has been studied for a fair amount of time and it predates COVID.  All boils down to trust, and yes I believe the risks are far lower than my chances with COVID.  Fortunately, those with a hesitation to this newer RNA based vaccine have the alternative of more traditional vaccines.  My wife and son will be going to RU next month and will likely get the Sputnik V vaccine as their age group has not come up yet here.  It was widely used in San Marino and efficacy is reported to be 100% so far.  I expect EU will authorize it in short order.

http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/san-marino-offer-tourists-russias-sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine-2021-05-12/

[Gator]

Don't mind me, I'm just projecting my thoughts trying to make logic in my still pending decision to whether or not I march with the increasing herd.

And you should scrutinize everything regarding efficacy and safety.   

First, safety.  Rather than focus on side effects as manifested in the clinical trials and 100 million now vaccinated, consider these two scientific facts.

       1,  After a couple of days following vaccination,  none of the vaccine constituents are detectable in the body.  The body has metabolized or otherwise assimilated them. 

       2.  Most important, the mRNA vaccine does not enter the nucleus of your cells.  The nucleus is where almost all of your DNA is located.  In other words, imRNA does not attach to your DNA or otherwise change it.   

The efficacy among the 100 million (=/-) fully vaccinated recipients is mirroring the outstanding results reported in the clinical trials.  Hence, the relaxation of mask rules, etc. 

The sudden change in mask policy gave me cause to question our sciencific policy makers.  The CDC screwed this up over a year ago by not being prepared to make laboratory tests.  Then we had erroneous messages about wearing gloves, sanitizing surfaces, etc.  Many governors implemented stringent lockdown procedures and a couple placed the most vulnerable population (the elderly) in jeopardy. 

In essence we did not know jack shit.   Looking back, the Trump policies of balancing health precautions with saving the economy were the proper course.  And through it all the Democrat leaders and the media blamed Trump for the pandemic and deaths.  The future will show the Democrats overhyped the crisis, and for sure are fiscally irresponsible in the process of dealing with it.     

[2tallbill]

Pompeo calls on China to release evidence disproving Wuhan lab leak theory
Pompeo says Wuhan lab leak 'covered up just like Chernobyl'
http://www.foxnews.com/media/pompeo-china-evidence-wuhan-lab-leak-covid


Experts weigh in on the Wuhan lab leak hypothesis
http://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2021/05/19/experts-weigh-in-on-the-wuhan-lab-leak-hypothesis-492915


WHO Director-General's remarks at the Member State Briefing on the report of the
international team studying the origins of SARS-CoV-2
http://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-remarks-at-the-member-state-briefing-on-the-report-of-the-international-team-studying-the-origins-of-sars-cov-2


Investigate the origins of COVID-19
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

[fathertime]

Pompeo calls on China to release evidence disproving Wuhan lab leak theory
Pompeo says Wuhan lab leak 'covered up just like Chernobyl'
http://www.foxnews.com/media/pompeo-china-evidence-wuhan-lab-leak-covid

 

Pompeo, a has been, with zero credibility nationally, or internationally.

Fathertime! 

[BillyB]

Pompeo calls on China to release evidence disproving Wuhan lab leak theory

Read an article where they destroyed documents including funding and assistance that came from America.

[BillyB]

Doctors suing government. They want to prevent kids from getting experimental vaccines. Kids have almost zero chance of dying from COVID and the biological agents in vaccines may cause them more harm than the virus.


America's Frontline Doctors files motion for temporary restraining order against use of COVID vaccine in children - Frontline News (americasfrontlinedoctors.org)

[BillyB]

French Virologist and Nobel Peace Prize winner said vaccinating during a pandemic is a mistake and history will show it. Says the we are creating more dangerous variants. Kind of reminds me of the doom and gloom for humanity the ex VP of Pfizer, and ex senior project manager for epidemics at the Gates foundation were saying. I sincerely hope they are wrong this time but what they are claiming can happen.

http://brandnewtube.com/watch/shocking-claims-by-luc-montagnier-nobel-prize-laureate_5eYUr3n662YSx65.html

[GQBlues]

Pompeo, a has been, with zero credibility nationally, or internationally.

OY!

[Gator]

OY!

Good piece GQ!

Three stories:

1.  Evidence is mounting that the pandemic resulted from China's negligence in operating its Wuhan Lab.

2.  Dr. Fauci and the scientific community did not disclose conflicts of interest, and worse, may have covered up evidence. 

3.  And the BIG STORY - uncovering another example of mainstream news media failing to do its job because of bias against the right. 

[Gator]

Thanks for that fairly comprehensive response, Gator.

Actually not comprehensive because I did not mention the role of T-cells, etc.   I did not mention these esoteric subjects because if I don't understand something, I try not to pass it on.

All we need to know is the world has vaccines and they work. 

[Trenchcoat]

Apparently black fungus is the latest thing to result out of the Coronavirus mutation in India:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-57191507.amp

Sounds and no doubt looks nasty, hope we don't get it over here, apparently use of steroids to treat serious virus cases looks like it may be causing a fair bit of it but still early days I guess to know all the ins & outs.