"Russian girls abandon their nation in need" (?)

[prince_alfie]

Manchester is back? 

[beattledog]

Who is manchester?


beattledog

[prince_alfie]

No idea. A guy from England I believe. The Manchster region perhaps?

He is the sort to enjoy needling moi

[Wild Orchid*]

Not more than two hours ago I watched a program on The History Channel. Something about religion, and the believe in a heaven and a hell. The stat that they threw out was that there are over 1 billion people today who do not claim to have a religion, practice one, or have a religious belief. The majority of those 1 billion are now living in either the FSU and China.

Peevee

Why did you quote my post? I don’t see any connection. Yes, they rebuild or renovate churches and cathedrals, but it has nothing to do with religious believes  of the people, mostly they were atheistic and they still are.

[PeeWee]

Why did you quote my post? I don’t see any connection. Yes, they rebuild or renovate churches and cathedrals, but it has nothing to do with religious believes  of the people, mostly they were atheistic and they still are.

Then why were the churches rebuilt if most are atheistic? Acutally that is what I said. The majority of non belivers live in the FSU countries and in China.

Peevee

[Bruno]

Then why were the churches rebuilt if most are atheistic?

So curches are historical monument, building who attract tourist... and tourism is a income of money ( for believer or atheist ).

Nobody believe in the numerous egyptian Gods, but some atheist renovate the old egyptian temple to allow you to spend money when you are visiting them... do you have visit egypt during you last stay ? 

[PeeWee]

So curches are historical monument, building who attract tourist... and tourism is a income of money ( for believer or atheist ).

Nobody believe in the numerous egyptian Gods, but some atheist renovate the old egyptian temple to allow you to spend money when you are visiting them... do you have visit egypt during you last stay ? 

I don't completely follow your logic there, Bruno. What I read into the statistic that over 1 billion souls do not have or believe in a religion with the majority of those people living in the FSU and China is that communisim devistated religion in those countries. The anti-Christ. Chruches are built for those few who do believe and wish to have a place to worship. With regard to Egypt. Most of the antiquites there have not been restored by anyone. More like dystroyed by everyone.

I told my friend Aymen, an Egyptian businessman friend of mine, that the Pharohs had left a great legacy for the people of Egypt. Those monuments, artifacts and tombs will provide a weath of income to the present day and future Egyptians in far greater amounts than even the Pharohs themselves could have hoped to accumulate.

Peevee

[Bruno]

I don't completely follow your logic there, Bruno...

It is not a logic but more a fact...

By example, take the moscow St Basil on the red square :

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?ind=gallery&op=foto_show&ida=27

You have more tourist who visit it that believer...

I see the same in the Ghent cathedral in Belgium :


Place for several thounsand of believer... but ceremony are make in the catacombe, in a little place, if you find 50 believer for ceremony, it is a lot... but in the cathedral itself, you can find several hundred of tourist...

Take a look at http://www.law.ugent.be/pub/iuap/c_images.html ... several of these monument was from religious origine... but it is the city administration ( non believer ) who pay for the restauration... and the tourist business who earn a lot...

[wiz]

Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain.. heck any country along the Med are nice playgrounds for men and women alike.  It's not only physical looks but a very open 'easy come-easy go' mentality that contributes as well.  Deadlines, schedules, project timelines.. who needs 'em?  There's always 'Tomorrow'.  LOL

That's why I love living here and probably a factor that my wife found attractive. 

BC

Give me Greece any time......I love it there.........and the Greeks say of course:

"there is nothing that important that can't wait for tommorrow!"

Just looking to go back there next month AGAIN......

PS:
In reply to a previous comment, many Russian and Ukrainian women go to Turkey because they do not need a VISA and of course then they cross illegally to Greece to work.

Greece is full everywhere with working girls (prostitutes)..............mostly from the above two nations and also Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova etc. Bodrum in Turkey is well known transport centre.

[wiz]

Was it this PeeWee..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Millennium_Bridge
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2000/millennium_bridge/default.stm
 
(The other 'inferior' Millenium Bridge) 

....or could it have been a conventional bridge.  (The 'arch' was across the river?)

PEEWEE is right

What he saw was the NEW Wembley stadium arch.........

http://www.luzonet.com/magazine/mag12/beststadiums.htm

[prince_alfie]

That arch looks very interesting. Makes me want to go over there and visit for sure!

[PeeWee]

PEEWEE is right

What he saw was the NEW Wembley stadium arch.........

http://www.luzonet.com/magazine/mag12/beststadiums.htm

Thanks, Wizer. That is what I spotted.

Peevee

[Turboguy]

Talking about destroyng antiquites.  My understanding is this is true.  Back 100 years ago or so there were so many mummys that they were used to as fuel in some of the trains. 

[PeeWee]

Talking about destroyng antiquites.  My understanding is this is true.  Back 100 years ago or so there were so many mummys that they were used to as fuel in some of the trains. 

Maybe, but I think they were just using dead people. The city is populated by 18 million people. There is a section of Cairo called "The City of the Dead." There are a lot of old graveyards there that have been paved over for streets and freeways and office building and homes have been built over them all. We might find that unusual here in the US but because we are a new country and there seems to be plenty of space for graveyards then we may never see the day when we find the need to pave over a cemetary.

Here is the real story regarding mummys and train fuel.  http://www.straightdope.com/columns/020222.html



Peevee

[Turboguy]

Thanks for the "Straight Dope" PeeVee.   I could swear that what ever I read or saw on the subject had photos of mummys used for fuel or perhaps even a grainy black and white movie of it, like maybe the history channel of something but the memory is way back in my memory bank along with other obsure memories like what I had for breakfast today.

[Mamma D]

We spent time in Germany, and they were great to us...
Spent a while in France....and well the French are French.. what can you say?

Spent time in the UK... Bowden near Altringhan (Cheshire) lived on the old Roman Road! and a year in wellingboro, Nothants....and these people adopted us.... They showed us their country and taught us their history....All those wonderful neighbors are long gone.. but not forgotten.

I wasn't at all ready to come home!  I have a big heart full of great memories....

Mamma D

[55North]

PEEWEE is right

What he saw was the NEW Wembley stadium arch.........

http://www.luzonet.com/magazine/mag12/beststadiums.htm

Well, there you go.  It is so long since I left, or even visited London, that this wonder is not even on my radar.

At the risk of being boring, but with an mind to the topic, this explains well why I have had a 'negative' attitude to Turkey, which I have had to contain in the company of my UW (Kurdish bomb attacks I can live with.)
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5285726.stm

[Adel]

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/terror/29-08-2006/84133-explosions_turkey-0

http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/28-08-2006/84112-marmaris-0

[PeeWee]

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/terror/29-08-2006/84133-explosions_turkey-0

http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/28-08-2006/84112-marmaris-0

This reminded me of the airport like security proceedures now in place at Cairo's Grand Hyatt. Xray, metal detectors, and pat downs all are a part of gaining access to the hotel lobby. I do believe that the city of Cairo has more visible policemen than any other city in the world.

Peevee

[ronin308]

Peewee, if you had traveled to other parts of Egypt you'd see the same metal detectors outside many of the hotels, most are not in use.  Of course they aren't useful in detecting explosives so they're more for show.  It's also common to have heavily armed "tourist police" at all significant tourist areas.  We stayed on the Red sea and any excursions (we went to both Cairo and Luxor) were done convoy style with 50 or more busses and several pickup trucks full of armed "police" with automatic weapons.

Of course considering that bribery is widespead, I'm not sure I feel that safe.

[Manny]

Spent time in the UK... Bowden near Altringhan (Cheshire) lived on the old Roman Road!

That is Altrincham, (20 mins from me)  and that is a very expensive district now (probably then too?) - If you live on Bowden, you have serious cash! 

[prince_alfie]

Whoa, he's back!?! 

[Manny]

Whoa, he's back!?! 

You just noticed Alfie? I had to come back to do some troll chasing! 

[prince_alfie]

Sweet, however, you aren't going to get any trolling here. This is a serious forum you know.

[Manny]

Sweet, however, you aren't going to get any trolling here. This is a serious forum you know.

Well I see your behaviour is quite constructive (at times!) on here rather than that other place that shall remain nameless. I am glad you have re thought your modus operandi. Perhaps we shall make more of an effort on here with each other eh Alfie?  - Heres the deal, dont troll and I wont be able to highlight it eh? 

However, that said, the topic up for discussion is not where I may or may not be, it is "Russian girls abandon their nation in need?"