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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #175 on: June 28, 2019, 08:38:37 AM »
when my children were little, they asked me...
“Daddy what is a war like?”
I told them, I’ll show you, go inside and get a banana and come back outside
then I told them, “peel the banana and lay it on the ground by the porch, but somewhere where your mother won’t see it”
they did so...
then I told them, “in a few days, you will know what war is like”
a few days later large botfly maggots were emerging from the banana
then I told my children as they were staring at the maggot covered banana
imagine that banana is your best friend’s face,
what you’re feeling right now...
that’s what war is like

so the people who took pride in their frontier guerilla tactics pitted against the World’s super power now look with disdain upon that very tactic

look y’all I’m just gonna come right out and SAY IT, ok...
this comes straight outta the "friendly" GRU folks, same folks who tried to warn y’all about the Tsarnaev bros in Boston, who WARNED you...

I am passing along a second warning
Iran is gonna turn the world upside down
this is the song YOU will play
the same way Cornwallis did at Yorktown
and you will go the way of Sparta

50 years from now
America will be a playground for rich Chinese "bizznessman"
and everyone will still be laughing about how you were COMPLETELY outsmarted by a bunch of Muslim clerics
all because of Saudi/UAE money influence over Trump and Kushner...

you more or less deserve what's coming, but I am warning you anyway...
YOU ARE WALKING INTO A TRAP!!!!
we're still at the beginning phase of the "setup"
Trump didn't take the bait this time
so an escalation will come until he does....
then we go into phase II
the USS Abraham Lincoln

PS
Dear America
Russia has secretly given S-400 missiles and S-400 technology to Iran
Ever see a world champion skeet shooter bust a buncha clay targets with a semi-auto shotgun
that's what the S-400 does to Mach 2.5 aircraft...
there are more anti-aircraft missiles than trees in Iran
factories have been chrunin em out for years...
upgraded with latest S-400 Russian technology
and some Iranian American help from California as well
with latest American technology go Intel!







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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #176 on: June 28, 2019, 12:40:45 PM »
http://www.janes.com/article/89195/iran-unveils-new-sam-system


half the stuff going on in the middle east is the struggle between Saudi Arabia and Iran
Saudi/UAE money got to Trump/Kushner to hurt Iran
now Iran's ONLY option
is to FIGHT!!!
just like JAPAN after August 1, 1941
when we put an oil embargo on them

to fight back
Iran can use its terrain to its advantage
it's widest point strait of Hormuz is just 21 miles
it's WIDEST!!!

easy peasy for them to close this to shipping
they have gazillions of Noor anti-ship missiles that can be carried by a pickup truck
to do the job

21 million barrels per day passes through the strait
what happens when you SUDDENLY take that much oil out of the market
what happens to the price?

what happens to availability
do you remember back in the 70s when the USA had gas lines?

whatever retaliation the USA can throw at it, if Iran can show resolve
that it accepts the price
then it becomes a war of attrition
can an asymmetrical offense
i.e 9/11 type attacks vrs aircraft carrier launched attacks
produce more leverage over an enemy population

just the loss of oil alone would have a devastating effect on the American economy
and 100% gas would be rationed
for as long as this conflict lasted

also remember the 9/11 attacks besides killing thousands
caused 100 billion in direct loss and the stock market to lose hundreds of billions....
and these attacks were done by 19 guys with box cutters
and THOSE guys were all "C" level guys
Iran has THOUSANDS of "A" level guys

they will be like assassins who climb in your window at night, so...very...silent...
creeping slowly towards your bed
and then put one hand firmly over your mouth so you don't scream
and with their other hand hold a Damascus steel knife, and cut your carotid artery...
then on to the next address on the list
repeated hundreds of times and places across America simultaneously each night....

until the United States accepts a peace treaty
whereby the United States removes ALL SANCTIONS from all countries
and renounces sanctions and will never use them again

Iran is now free to ship as much oil as it wants
AND DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS
and now so is every other bloody idiot in the world
making it just a matter of time
before one is gonna get used...




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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #177 on: June 28, 2019, 04:01:45 PM »


21 million barrels per day passes through the strait
what happens when you SUDDENLY take that much oil out of the market
what happens to the price?......just the loss of oil alone would have a devastating effect on the American economy
and 100% gas would be rationed for as long as this conflict lasted


You are destroying your own argument.  You talk about the price of oil, yet  Brent crude is at a lower price today than in May. This reflects how the smart money (and I am talking about a trillion or so) assigns a very low probability to your apocalyptic scenario.



BTW, it is not 21 mm bbl/day.  Maybe a few months ago, but Iran is shipping less oil.  If the Strait were closed, Saudi has an unused pipeline that could divert 5 mm bbl/day to the Red Sea.  The UAE can pipe 1.5 mm bbl/day to east of the Strait. 

Nevertheless, the world oil market would lose about 12-14% of its daily oil supply.  If so, oil reserves would be used, and if the Strait remains closed for long period, some countries would be hit harder than 12-14%.  Not the US,  as we are a net exporter of oil, yet there would be some disruptions in how the oil is distributed.  Most important, some of our trading partners would cascade into the American economy. 


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they will be like assassins who climb in your window at night, so...very...silent...
creeping slowly towards your bed
and then put one hand firmly over your  mouth so you don't scream
and with their other hand hold a Damascus steel knife, and cut your carotid artery...
then on to the next address on the list
repeated hundreds of times and places across America simultaneously each night....


 :ROFL:   If you are trying to imprint your nightmare on me, it is not working.  I sleep well.  And so does the oil industry based on oil prices. 

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #178 on: June 28, 2019, 04:08:22 PM »
I see that you are so wound up, you did two apocalyptic posts back-to-bak!!!!!



there are more anti-aircraft missiles than trees in Iran


How effective are they against missiles? 

BTW, Iran has an extensive European climax forest in the Caspian Sea littoral region. 

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #179 on: June 28, 2019, 04:57:11 PM »
"You talk about the price of oil, yet  Brent crude is at a lower price today than in May. "

and each glitch on your price chart was caused by a limpet mine the size of a dinner plate
set to go off ABOVE the water line
that didn't actually effect the flow of oil...
YET...

these guys are moving SLOWLY and deliberately
it is a chess game
they ARE trying to bait Trump
because they want MORE
than just shutting down the strait
they can do that any time they want
they want an end to the USA in the middle East
and an end to ALL sanctions
and the people of Iran are willing to martyr themselves to achieve this goal
so they are going to have to kick America's ass to get this
and guess what Trump voters
they have put together a plan that might actually work...
but...
how silly of me, I overlooked the obvious
that America has a stable military genius as its commander in chief
who is invincible
so no need for concern, right Trump voters?
cuz Gawd, sent Donald Trump to make blah...blah....blah....

go long on oil and gold
short the dollar

go long on oil and gold
short the dollar

go long on oil and gold
short the dollar





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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #180 on: June 29, 2019, 06:29:40 AM »

go long on oil and gold
short the dollar

Keep in mind past history: 

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...history gives decent odds that six months later, the market would be higher than where it stood before such a war broke out.

Source:  http://www.barrons.com/articles/iran-war-stock-market-51559052028

If you are so certain, why not leverage by buying short-term put options for the US stock market.  If not  crafted as a hedge for your existing portfolio, such is speculating, not investing; however, I doubt if that concerns you.   

Historically, the stock market sells off in anticipation of conflict but almost always begins to rally once conflict begins.  That is why I suggested puts expiring in the near term. 

Counter to your apocalyptic scenario, the market is trending upwards this month, the best June in 50 years.  I am an honest man and admit the market dipped a smidgen after the burning tankers incident, and then leveled off and resumed a strong upward trend.    After the drone incident, the market dropped more, yet has leveled off and ticked slightly up (too short term to see a pattern as China and interest rates are also factors).   

So if you bought out-of-money puts when the tanker incidents occurred, you would now be below water, and  the "smart money" would be smiling.   If purchased after the drone incident, you would be slightly below water. 



   
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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #181 on: June 29, 2019, 06:54:37 AM »
"If you are so certain, why not leverage by buying short-term put options for the US stock market.  "

that's what shorting the dollar means...
George, I mean Mr Soros is doing this...right now....
my broker is telling me to pull out of equities now, that the bond market has inverted
and a recession is guaranteed
perfect timing for Iran
always take advantage of natural existing conditions
just like ALWAYS use terrain to your advantage
perfect storm

as you have acknowledged...
the price of oil was altered in Iran's favor
by two guys in a rubber raft
who planted a limpet mine
that cost Iran $100 to make
you think they didn't NOTICE?

there is an actual quantifiable number
let's see what that number is when the attacks "escalate"
either a mine below the waterline
or the introduction of a new weapon
like a floating mine...

which might require American mine sweepers to enter the straits
hmmmm, what could go wrong with that?

Just like in the British Navy
in the war of 1812
with the rockets red glare
rows of sturdy young men
grim faced, lifting the rockets

and then the back doors of every falafel shop in Kolahi opens up
and 100 Noors (Phase IV)* come flying out

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_(missile)

the straits of Hormuz are THEN officially closed
21% of the world’s oil mainly from Saudi Arabia is then “embargoed” by Iran
meanwhile Saudi pipelines and ports are being attacked from all directions
by a ragtag navy of speed boats armed with powerful missiles and suicidal crews
and sappers coming ashore and crossing distant borders in massive numbers

bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do
whatcha gonna do when they come for you

cuz this is a big part of it
they’re coming for you MFers
from the INSIDE
they’re ALREADY HERE!

hundreds of “crews"
with a level of training and resources
far above Al Queda and 9/11

I’ve personally traced an Iranian crew in Fresno, California
they’re freaking everywhere

The guy known as the underwear bomber
visited a mosque in Houston, right before he got on a plane with a bomb
this particular mosque has a HUGE number of Iranian crews


don't know why Trump/kushner haven't maneuvered Israel into a war with Iran
Saudis and USA can join in and finish off Iran
75% of mid east problems would disappear
THEN negotiate with the Saudis over the limits to Wahhabism
and get them to co-sponser a two state solution for Israel/Palestine
by then, you've pretty much worked out all the major political issues in the middle east
except for the kurds, who SHOULD be given an oil bearing homeland in Iraq
and this new Kurdish state will be a USA vassal state like Israel
and be used to stamp out extremists in the region
cuz it has an army of 20,000 trained to USMC level
backed by US aircraft and high altitude reconnaissance








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