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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2021, 08:48:04 AM »
Davo is talking about 40 yes plus ex-Soviet women with a lot of life experience behind them and different times.

Dangerous times, i am friends with my ex fiance's mother, she pushed my ex fiance to cheat on her boyfriend (This was after me). She would control everything behind the scenes, instagram pics, what to post and not to post, pics of me and her together on her instagram, a lovely woman, she was good to me, and still is good to me, saved me from a lot of medical issues i had in Ukraine. Very supportive of me still, great advice, but she would do anything to further her daughters prospects, bend and break any rule. She would call my ex fiance fat, with the smallest weight gain, imagine a 183cm at 50 something kg. But the mother was strong, heartless, strong, but was an amazing mother. Sacrificed so much to bring up the family without the father around, her strength is something i admire. Things she went through, and managed to accomplish bringup up 3 children, two daughters, who are each amazing.

Tattoo master i dated, she got a ruptured ovary, due to sex. We broke up, i said i would pay , as logn as my ex finished the tattoos (also pay hourly rate). Mother tried to push her to go to the police, but my girlfriend didn't want to (ex at the time). THe mother is lovely, she also helped me more than my girlfriend, even after everything, but like i said, these women are dangerous.

They are two different people in the same body, lovely and killers. I had a fall out with the tattoo masters mother one time, after the break up, she warned me what she would do if i ever messed with her. These old women can smile and in the next second cut your legs.

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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2021, 10:08:50 AM »
There is the delusion, you know better than someone living there. Keep in mind her friends range from 20's to 40's, she has nothing to sell you.

I looked past at your first jab at her , calling her a narcist telling me to run for the hills but your history doesn't give you much room to talk, luckily we have rules to protect you. You are funny one sentence you are telling Trench how to play the financial game, what UK offers to attract women, next you are talking about farm lands, $500k apartments. Truth is women you go for is what she described, shit , nobody wanted them. What is hard to comprehend? They may or may not be manipulative, but nobody wants them, so they found you, hopefully this time you can keep one long enough. Or be another of Faux's statistics , 15 friends married FSUW, all divorced. You have one divorce, want to make it a double?

Don't be mad. No need to insult my girlfriend because you don't like the expired milk nobody wants to drink.


I know of a young russian guy, lost his legs, has no job,found a beautiful girl. But i am not giving up my day job or gym pass, you can looking for little outliers, make up stories, or be a big man, admit what you are doing, and just do it. Stop sugar coating stuff.

My advice to trench was being realistic. He wants children and would like a wife who stays at home and doesnít work. It doesnít matter if what country sheís from he needs to at least double his income and even then his wife will probably have to go out and work once the children are in school or his family wonít have the quality of life that most middle income families have... most have 2 incomes to get by.

You completely missed my point about a woman who lived a comfortable life in Ivanov Russia, before moving to a property on the edge of the Nullarbor. She didnít do it for the lifestyle or money.... google the Nullarbor and youíll see what Iím taking about. You have to truly love someone to live there.

Again you missed my point about expensive apartments. Not all FSU women have lower standard of living and income then us in western countries. Youíd be surprised how much many 40+ women are doing very well. All they are missing is a quality dating pool at home.

You can say what you want about the woman Iíve met, but the truth is in my country in my age group sheíd be at the top of the dating pool. How do I know this? After my divorce I went on went on 50+ first dates and had 8 short term and casual relationships over two years.... Believe me I know what shit is.

I call BS on the 15 friends who got divorced, if youíre taking about ďcloseĒ  friends who are living in western countries with a FSU wife and not random internet friends telling their horror stories. You know Russia keeps records of foreign marriages to their citizens (married in Russia) and the same for divorces, that arenít publicly available. Find a Russian friend who has the right contacts and youíll see a lower divorced rate than western marriages.

You can say what you like about my marriage, but I raised 4 children to be happy, healthy, exceed at school and 2 have moved onto uni. All the while isolating them from their mothers mental problems, alcoholism and serial cheating and double life she lead. I did it so successfully that they had absolutely no idea, until I kicked her out when she openly had an affair in front of their faces.

BTW Iíve lived and raised my children next door to a Russian couple while they raised theirs and 2 weeks ago my Daughter got engaged to a fine young man with a Russian father and Belarusian mother. Funny how their opinions align with the women Iíve chatted with and met in Russia.

You can argue as much as you want, but unless you or your GF have talked to many 40+ single Russian mothers from Rostov to Vladivostok, over 5 years on a daily basis youíre not going to change my mind. Most love their country and if it wasnít for social and cultural issues making them basically invisible to men, they wouldnít consider a foreign man.

So again if your GF is so sure sheís not just telling you what you want to here, Iíll happily discuss the ďshitĒ women Iíve met, even over the phone on a group call with a Russian woman, if sheís not comfortable chatting here. She wonít because she knows Iím correct and wonít want to look foolish in front of you.

As I said to Kim a while back, if you put some humour into your insults we can have some fun back and forth banter.... Our culture is based on that. We call mates c*%ts and c*%ts mate... mate!!  😜


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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2021, 10:54:01 AM »
You completely missed my point about a woman who lived a comfortable life in Ivanov Russia, before moving to a property on the edge of the Nullarbor. She didn’t do it for the lifestyle or money.... google the Nullarbor and you’ll see what I’m taking about. You have to truly love someone to live there.

I dated someone in that city, living in a 8 bedroom house, her father had 3 stores in that city. She wanted the same, i had maybe £500 in my bank, no job, a business failed a month prior. At still each time i go sit with an fsuw and they ask me why ukraine, i say 'my income in fsu is considered better than the average guy'.

I am probably the only one on this on this forum that couchsurfed in Russia, and slept with his host, and had a short relationship with her. But still you lot lack the balls to admit what is the most 'attractive' you lot possess.


So again if your GF is so sure she’s not just telling you what you want to here

No she corrects me when she has a different opinion, such as i thought women with children were not wanted, she corrected me, she showed me friends who HAD BEAUTY AND A GOOD JOB, and found a guy, married, extended their family.

but the truth is in my country in my age group she’d be at the top of the dating pool. How do I know this? After my divorce I went on went on 50+ first dates and had 8 short term and casual relationships over two years.... Believe me I know what shit is.
50+ DATES????? 8 relationships and some casuals? in 2 years? That is a real big accomplishment (Sarcasm).

I call BS on the 15 friends who got divorced,

Calling BS on Faux, why would he lie? There is your problem, you selectively believe what you want to believe, that supports your fairy tale you built in your head.



You can argue as much as you want, but unless you or your GF have talked to many 40+ single Russian mothers from Rostov to Vladivostok, over 5 years on a daily basis you’re not going to change my mind.

Like i, and she said, if these women cannot find suitors because they are too undesirable, compared to the local women, then yes, But average Ukrainian/Russian woman can be compared to the Average Western women. It is just we have money that beats the local guys.

I challenge you to stay off foreign dating sites, if your balls are big enough, you can come to FSU, join a normal dating site like tinder, badoo etc, find a local woman, and see what happens when you minus the women actively looking to jump countries.
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2021, 11:02:40 AM »
Jap read my edit at the bottom of my post.... this is getting boring AF ... at least insult my mother or say something witty 😉

Edit...  I will say to your last comment.... I donít need tinder like you or badoo or flex my muscles to pick up women in FSU countries. In Russia all I had to do is talk with my accent for a young woman to close her shop and take me out to lunch. At the supermarket on my own and looking lost a woman took my hand and walked me around to find what I wanted, then followed me down the street, before I told her Iím here visiting another woman. Has that happened to you??? If I actually tried and did cold approaches Iím sure I could have lined up dates daily, given what happened above.

You might think none of the women you are dating want to leave, but all of them are secretly hoping youíll take them away from their life in Ukraine. They have far less to stay for (Adult children, careers, elderly parents, property etc..) and much more opportunities in a western country than older women do.
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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2021, 11:07:57 AM »
Dangerous times, i am friends with my ex fiance's mother, she pushed my ex fiance to cheat on her boyfriend (This was after me). She would control everything behind the scenes, instagram pics, what to post and not to post, pics of me and her together on her instagram, a lovely woman, she was good to me, and still is good to me, saved me from a lot of medical issues i had in Ukraine. Very supportive of me still, great advice, but she would do anything to further her daughters prospects, bend and break any rule. She would call my ex fiance fat, with the smallest weight gain, imagine a 183cm at 50 something kg. But the mother was strong, heartless, strong, but was an amazing mother. Sacrificed so much to bring up the family without the father around, her strength is something i admire. Things she went through, and managed to accomplish bringup up 3 children, two daughters, who are each amazing.

Tattoo master i dated, she got a ruptured ovary, due to sex. We broke up, i said i would pay , as logn as my ex finished the tattoos (also pay hourly rate). Mother tried to push her to go to the police, but my girlfriend didn't want to (ex at the time). THe mother is lovely, she also helped me more than my girlfriend, even after everything, but like i said, these women are dangerous.

They are two different people in the same body, lovely and killers. I had a fall out with the tattoo masters mother one time, after the break up, she warned me what she would do if i ever messed with her. These old women can smile and in the next second cut your legs.

Indeed, I wouldn't cross a post Soviet woman, doing so over her family is likely to be very bad news. Post Soviet women tend to be resilient as ML"s post above illustrates. As you know doubt know Soviet society was not about being weak and it had its own hard edges to it. Soviet history shows us how bad it could get yet I believe the collective/communist values still instilled a way of being of having to work together, shared virtues and a certain citizen to be, those that stepped out of line didn't fair well.

The mother who was pushing the daughter to cheat and controlling her Instagram I think is trying to do the best by her daughter. She is not acting well but her interest is not in acting well but doing the best by her daughter in the times in which they are living. Survival is a basic instinct of most and a good prospect is not to be passed over lightly. I think it's a case there of playing the game a bit little fiercely but like I said Soviet society was not about being pussies it had a hard edge when push cane to shove, when people felt they needed to act aggressively. Aside from that though I still think in terms of virtue they are more sound even if they are shrewd underneath.

Post Soviet girls are more into gameplay, at least Ukrainian girls are, possibly Russian girls also. I don't think they are as shrewd underneath as ex Soviet girls though as your example shows, it's her mother making moves for her daughter in the dating game making sure her daughter doesn't f*CK up. She wouldn't do that if she thought/knew her daughter knew her stuff, it's because her daughter although likely street wise isn't likely all that shrewd. Let's face it most young Ukrainian girls are stupid to rip a WM off for what amounts to a money off coupon. A shrewd woman would hold off and see what good a deal the guy may be. Some Ukrainian women learn that as they get older into their thirties some may not. Take the girl I was with, Kherson girl, for all she knew I might have been very wealthy or at least a way better deal than most local men, I paid for her to go on holiday with me to Cyprus and bought her nice clothes, etc. I bet you she hasn't been on holiday abroad in the three years since or necessarily likely to ever again unless she met another WM. Her social media tells me that nothing much outside of living in Kherson has happened for her since. She's not the only one though, after reading 'Odessa Dreams' a while back it appears a lot of young girls make the same mistake and get laughed at by locals who see that they passed over on the big prize of a comfortable life in the west to instead go for a quick one off fast buck with a guy or two. Kherson girl apparently lived in a concrete block apartment with her brother, his other half who she didn't get on with and their child and hated it, I don't doubt it, I think though manipulative that she was honest enough, but she passed over on me to make a quick one and is most probably still living in the same situation to this day.
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« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2021, 11:24:54 AM »
Davo, wife was nearby, so I read this to her.

She smiled and reminded me: "I gave up good job in capital city Kyiv with tons of friends and family.  Came here to USA.  Now maintaining very large garden and yard, helping cut down some dead trees, after husband cuts to firewood length some manual splitting, stacking firewood, hauling in firewood in winter, keeping wood burning furnace going, empty ashes, etc., etc.  All this with masters degree and finishing up PhD."

And all this to live with a guy stupid enough  to fall over the top of a 12 foot ladder reaching to cut off 'just one more' branch, breaking 9 ribs and clavicle.

Note: She really has used sledge and wedges to split some logs that were cut to firewood length.  Mostly I did that however, and then the past summer we obtained motor driven hydraulic splitter to split up and stack a couple of years worth of firewood.  This is now at her insistence as I would just as soon use the oil burner option on our dual source furnace.  Plus we have heat pump for milder winter days which she mostly refuses to use, preferring to burn small branches she has gathered up from fallen limbs.  We have a LOT of trees.

Nice to see she adopted a country lifestyle after coming from a complete different and probably more fast paced life in Ukraine. It give me hope, because I spend a time out in the country doing a lot of those things. Who ever I marry will have to enjoy both city and country life.

My mates wife struggled at first, coming from an office job in a large city to a remote property where the closest town had a population of just 14 people. My mate used to do regular trips back to the city when she got home sick. She missed the hustle and bustle of city life. Now sheís an out back girl and canít stand being away from the animals too long. Sheís hand raised lambs atm who were rejected by their mothers.

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« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2021, 12:20:49 PM »
Post Soviet girls are more into gameplay

Your ability to over generalize based on a few anecdotal experiences
is becoming legendary.

I expect that the the lurkers/peanut gallery can figure that out without
Moby writing 20 pages to rub your nose in it.



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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2021, 12:54:25 PM »

Tattoo master i dated, she got a ruptured ovary, due to sex. We broke up, i said i would pay , as logn as my ex finished the tattoos (also pay hourly rate). Mother tried to push her to go to the police, but my girlfriend didn't want to (ex at the time).

The Mother may have been bullsh*tting here as the way I here it the Police out there don't care much for stuff that goes on in people's relationship as they see it as generally between those involved.
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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2021, 12:55:45 PM »
I expect that the the lurkers/peanut gallery can figure that out
I haven't read all posts in detail - becoming yawnworthy to be honest.

The summary seems to be that Jap is arguing the only tool a WM has in his favour is financial while others argue their main tool is that FSUW are tired of poor available choices locally, especially those women plus 30 odd or with kids.

Among the endless heaps of BS, there's an element of truth in both arguments - it's a case of "Caveat Emptor" (SP?).

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« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2021, 01:50:43 PM »

I expect that the the lurkers/peanut gallery can figure that out without
Moby writing 20 pages to rub your nose in it.

Well this peanut is out of here. Donít really have the time to be sitting up all night engaging in pointless arguments.

Heard a young couple had their flights from the uk to home cancelled yesterday due to further restrictions on numbers returning. They were booked in October at a reasonable price and If they accept the refund and rebook itís going to cost them $36,000 aud. At this pace we will still be bringing  back covid infected people well into the latter part of the year. I canít see anyone flying out this year. I think Iíll just forget the FSUW thing for the time being.
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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2021, 02:12:16 PM »


there's an element of truth in both arguments - it's a case of "Caveat Emptor" (SP?).


You are correct I/O.... My only real argument was you canít make make the general statement that all women put a comfortable western lifestyle as their main goal above genuine love. You only need to read the FSU womenís only forums to see that thatís not true in a lot of cases.
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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2021, 02:22:37 PM »
I haven't read all posts in detail - becoming yawnworthy to be honest.

The summary seems to be that Jap is arguing the only tool a WM has in his favour is financial while others argue their main tool is that FSUW are tired of poor available choices locally, especially those women plus 30 odd or with kids.

Among the endless heaps of BS, there's an element of truth in both arguments - it's a case of "Caveat Emptor" (SP?).

The Topic of the thread is What planted the seed in your mind to consider FSUW??
And where are you now? Jap and Trench couldn't be more off topic if they tried
to discuss aluminum siding, hair gel and farting in chlorinated pools. 

I somehow allowed myself to get sucked in.

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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2021, 02:24:04 PM »
The Topic of the thread is What planted the seed in your mind to consider FSUW??
And where are you now? Jap and Trench couldn't be more off topic if they tried
to discuss aluminum siding, hair gel and farting in chlorinated pools. 

I somehow allowed myself to get sucked in.

Hey I take some blame too Bill.

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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2021, 02:27:22 PM »
Hey I take some blame too Bill.

No worries, threads tend to unravel over time. With Trench it can happen
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« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2021, 04:02:12 PM »
Incel definition right there, blame women not yourself. Women in the West are going for men they are attracted to, question is what qualities do you and others lack that makes them not attracted to you. Let go of the entitlement, dig in deep, and you will find the answer

Do you know how to read? There are women who go after men on death row. 
Am I over entitled because I don't go for that type? Midgets, little people. I
don't go for them either, I have nothing against them they just aren't for
me. Is that an incel definition blaming the girl?

I am married, I don't pursue ANY women because, I am MARRIED.

When you stop pursuing 18 year old girls without fully formed brains
you will be old enough to to give advice to twenty year olds. When
you start dating 40 year olds then you can start giving advice to
30 somethings.

You have no experience and no credibility.

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« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2021, 04:29:32 PM »

The summary seems to be that Jap is arguing the only tool a WM has in his favour is financial while others argue their main tool is that FSUW are tired of poor available choices locally, especially those women plus 30 odd or with kids.

Among the endless heaps of BS, there's an element of truth in both arguments - it's a case of "Caveat Emptor" (SP?).

I said main, i mention other qualities , but people are ignoring the financial gain quality.

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« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2021, 04:34:29 PM »
Do you know how to read? There are women who go after men on death row. 
Am I over entitled because I don't go for that type? Midgets, little people. I
don't go for them either, I have nothing against them they just aren't for
me. Is that an incel definition blaming the girl?


You are saying women go for bad boys, not the vast majority. They just go for something hard for a lot of men to be. I hanged out with male friends who bashed women, calling them shallow. I tenderly reminded them of a simpel fact, they could grow. They didn't want to, instead i did what it took to grow.


When you stop pursuing 18 year old girls without fully formed brains
you will be old enough to to give advice to twenty year olds.

My girlfriend is 24? I mean, difference is the women i go for, have something called options?

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You are saying women go for bad boys, not the vast majority. They just go for something hard for a lot of men to be. I hanged out with male friends who bashed women, calling them shallow. I tenderly reminded them of a simpel fact, they could grow. They didn't want to, instead i did what it took to grow.

My girlfriend is 24? I mean, difference is the women i go for, have something called options?

Your passive aggressive posting is becoming tiresome.

I am married and not looking for the same things as you.
You are too young and inexperienced to relate to the same
things as me and certainly your posts have nearly nothing
worth wasting my time on.

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« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2021, 06:49:36 PM »
Your passive aggressive posting is becoming tiresome.

I just pointed out what you said regarding women going for bad guys in western society, is same stuff MGTOW and Incel community preaches. It is ludicrous to believe majority of women are going for bad guys. They are going for men of value, i never came across a man of value (not people hiding behind screens), that preached that. They just became the man of value.

Regarding passive aggressiveness, i agree. My girlfriend said today if i feel i am different from others, she later explained i am direct, sometimes too direct. I tend to not sugar coat stuff, not really my style. Maybe for you and others sugar coating is needed.

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« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2021, 07:33:02 PM »
Japs Iíll bury the hatchet and we can amicably agree to disagree regarding the comments above.

Us older guys can appreciate your conquests with younger women Iím happy to hear them, but maybe lay off the digs about us having less ability to pleasure a woman in bed and being able to bring her to orgasm. You wonít believe me now in your mid 30ís but the best sex of your life is still a good 5-10 years away and your ability to bring a woman to orgasm is too. As your testosterone levels drop in your 40ís youíre ability to last longer in bed rises a lot. Combine that with the fact that a lot of women find it easier to have multiple orgasms and more intensely in their early to mid 40ís, you have the recipe for some epic marathon sessions with a woman whoís enjoying sex a lot more than she did in her 20ís and 30ís and believe me they arenít shy to let you know either. If youíre physical fit those all night sessions no longer require a gut full of alcohol and a pre date wank.... well most of the time 😉
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« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2021, 08:24:00 PM »
Japs Iíll bury the hatchet and we can amicably agree to disagree regarding the comments above.

Us older guys can appreciate your conquests with younger women Iím happy to hear them, but maybe lay off the digs about us having less ability to pleasure a woman in bed and being able to bring her to orgasm. You wonít believe me now in your mid 30ís but the best sex of your life is still a good 5-10 years away and your ability to bring a woman to orgasm is too. As your testosterone levels drop in your 40ís youíre ability to last longer in bed rises a lot. Combine that with the fact that a lot of women find it easier to have multiple orgasms and more intensely in their early to mid 40ís, you have the recipe for some epic marathon sessions with a woman whoís enjoying sex a lot more than she did in her 20ís and 30ís and believe me they arenít shy to let you know either. If youíre physical fit those all night sessions no longer require a gut full of alcohol and a pre date wank.... well most of the time 😉

I agree Davo.
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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2021, 02:17:40 AM »
TBH, the whole "I can give her.." or "I can make her...." Could be slightly amusing if not so distasteful.

Frankly, most women of some class who know their own bodies well enough to obtain the maximum satisfaction from a bedroom interlude, particularly FSUW, would be more than a little turned off reading these threads.

The others would laugh - I can't recall the Russian saying but it rather mirrors our "an empty drum makes the loudest noise"....

Just FWIW.

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« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2021, 06:37:44 AM »
Japs I’ll bury the hatchet and we can amicably agree to disagree regarding the comments above.

Us older guys can appreciate your conquests with younger women I’m happy to hear them, but maybe lay off the digs about us having less ability to pleasure a woman in bed and being able to bring her to orgasm. You won’t believe me now in your mid 30’s but the best sex of your life is still a good 5-10 years away and your ability to bring a woman to orgasm is too. As your testosterone levels drop in your 40’s you’re ability to last longer in bed rises a lot. Combine that with the fact that a lot of women find it easier to have multiple orgasms and more intensely in their early to mid 40’s, you have the recipe for some epic marathon sessions with a woman who’s enjoying sex a lot more than she did in her 20’s and 30’s and believe me they aren’t shy to let you know either. If you’re physical fit those all night sessions no longer require a gut full of alcohol and a pre date wank.... well most of the time

I never said you lot cannot perform, I listed attributes such as income, looking good (I didn't specify muscles), and not busting a nut in 10mins under.

You took that as an insult to yourself regarding lack of muscle and busting a nut under 10mins, but amusingly the income doesn't hurt you. Maybe you feel comfortable with your income and not the other attributes?

I repeat I never said you guys cannot perform, but if someone says something and it hurts you when not directed to you, there must be something deep down inside with truth.

If you go back , it is actually you more older gentlemen that were boasting at your skills acquired years back. I am not going to open up people's pasts (unless they take a deep jab).

And you still don't understand good sex , the best sex is emotional sex , when sometimes it is slow paced and with someone you care about. Sometimes I don't even need to orgasm for me to feel that it is good , it is the mental stimulation and closeness that makes it good . I am a switch between dominance and emotions . Sometimes I scroll through WhatsApp , see a contact who I forgot I slept with , physically it was good , but there was no emotions.

This is coming from a guy who carries BDSM equipment whenever he travels 
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« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2021, 07:57:48 AM »
LOL
This thread is really OT
Every guy is different, some peak in their 20's some 30s some 40s. Heck I knew one silver haired fox, that was still going strong in his 70s with much younger women (he had that white powder stuff)

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« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2021, 08:06:55 AM »
LOL
This thread is really OT
Every guy is different, some peak in their 20's some 30s some 40s. Heck I knew one silver haired fox, that was still going strong in his 70s with much younger women (he had that white powder stuff)

Exactly , i forgot to mention the peak thing. I remember 7 years back on here, guys told me how my future would play out, how i will go downhill etc. But they were wrong at all levels. It is about the mindset and the willingness to improve. Sure if you are going to approach old age with your hands in your pockets, reading countless articles on stuff that have no effect on your actual life, then you will have a very different life. You can tell most people are in the hands in the pockets mindset, they have good salary, but there is nothing else about them. They are one dimensional , same with guys in the gym who focus solely on fitness.

There are men who are multifunctional, look good, physically fit, make a good living, they will blow one dimensional guys out the water.


 

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