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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2725 on: December 08, 2022, 08:49:48 PM »
One source of information that I like to follow is Denys Davydov on Telegram. He is a Ukrainian who reports on the latest developments.

Here's the Telegram link: http://t.me/pilotblog

He also has a YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/@DenysDavydov

If follow him on Telegram, you'll always see links to his latest YouTubes.

I searched for Denys before posting this information in case someone had already provided these links. So I hope this information is helpful.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2726 on: December 08, 2022, 09:16:08 PM »
Peter Zeihan has had some interesting perspectives.
He pointed out that Russia HAS to keep the oil in the Siberian pipelines flowing.  If the pipeline from the Siberian oilfields stops flowing, the cold will thicken and gel the crude oil, and it will basically be impossible to ever resume flows again.  (I guess they could theoretically build a new pipeline, but how many decades would that take?)  Because countries are buying less Russian oil, Russia has simply stopped production in its warmer southern oilfields, because it will be possible to resume production someday.

Samara is a big junction point for pipelines and refineries.  Peter Zeihan pointed out that this is a soft place for Russia.  He expects Ukraine to target this with the long range drone they built which they just used to hit a couple Russian airfields recently.


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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2727 on: December 10, 2022, 02:47:55 AM »

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Zelenskyy says Bakhmut is ‘destroyed’
« Reply #2729 on: December 10, 2022, 08:55:17 AM »
Zelenskyy says Bakhmut is ‘destroyed’
President Zelenskyy has said that Russian forces have “destroyed”
the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut where the most active fighting
in Ukraine is taking place.

Ukraine’s military also reports strikes in other provinces: Kharkiv and Sumy
in the northeast, central Ukraine’s Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia in the
southeast and Kherson in the south.
read more here:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2022/12/10/russia-ukraine-live-news-zelenskyy-says-bakhmut-is-destroyed


Russia-Ukraine war live: Moscow has turned entire city of Bakhmut to ‘burnt ruins’, says Zelenskiy
The latest battles of Russia’s nine-and-a-half-month war in Ukraine have centred on
four provinces that Russian president Vladimir Putin illegally claimed to have annexed
in late September, the Associated Press reported.

The fighting indicates Moscow’s struggle to establish control of the regions and Ukraine’s
determination to reclaim them. Zelenskiy said the situation “remains very difficult” in
several frontline cities in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk provinces.

Together, the provinces make up the Donbas, an expansive industrial region
bordering Russia that Putin identified as a focus from the war’s outset, where
Moscow-backed separatists have fought since 2014.

“Bakhmut, Soledar, Maryinka, Kreminna. For a long time, there is no living
place left on the land of these areas that have not been damaged by shells
and fire,” Zelenskiy said in his nightly video address.

read more here
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/dec/10/russia-ukraine-war-live-jens-stoltenberg-warns-against-conflict-spiralling-into-russia-nato-war
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2730 on: December 19, 2022, 10:53:42 AM »
 A few newspaper articles about the war. 

http://wapo.st/3V5QivA

http://tinyurl.com/363c754e

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2731 on: December 19, 2022, 11:53:44 AM »
 Ukraine's army issued an instruction video on Monday with a step-by-step guide for Russian soldiers on how to surrender to one of its drones.

The video comes as part of Ukraine's "I Want to Live" project, a hotline that encourages Russians who are reluctant to fight in Ukraine to surrender.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-army-video-tells-russians-how-to-surrender-to-drone-2022-12
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2732 on: December 19, 2022, 12:22:38 PM »
both my children and their husbands flew in to stay with my wife and me for the holidays
first time I've seen them in a year!
I feel so happy
but..
sad, as well
I am cut off from my Russian and Ukrainian friends
some are dead, 2020-2022 was a brutal time for stariks in Rossiya
most of the ones I knew are dead now
some were really good friends
some in-laws have been mobilized
the Russian mobilization WAS BRUTAL!
no advanced notification AT ALL
army show up at your door, reads the proclamation, and tells you to go pack your suitcase, you're coming with us!
just like you see on a sci-fi movie where the govenment swoops in to pick up some badly needed scientists to deal with the aliens!
BUT...
these guys are primarily trench diggers in Northern Crimea now
and all these guys are really too old for the military, my brother-in-law is 41
they ONLY selected guys to be mobilized who had past military training
and that left out the majority of young people
so instead they get the 40 yr olds

a week ago one of the big barracks north of the Massandra winery in Crimea was hit with one of them 50 yr old soviet target drones modified by Ukr and did major damage, my brother-in-law was there
he is allowed to phone his wife and children once per week, and is allowed to say little more than that he's OK...
his wife and children will be spending Christmas without him
same for the rest of them mobniks taken from the working class village of Shevchenko
none of them will know if their husband/son/father/brother/friend is alive on Christmas day or not
I couldn't imagine having my children in this situation

several of my friends and business associates are just missing in Kyiv
and the only info I can get is from when Kiev has power so I can try and contact them or others, so much of the time, I just get nothing...

there are few people in Russia who are not afraid to take my calls, and believe me, I am very careful with what I say on the phone while talking to Russians
but never the less, most are too paranoid to be identified as someone who receives a call from hated Amerika!

but from what I can gather, from those who will take my calls, the mood in Russia is really dark now
first, EVERYBODY'S sick, there's some weird viruses goin around all the big Russian cities
which is bad, cuz in some parts of Russia there's NO hospital space or doctors available, cuz the war took them, so ya gotta start with that
and then, the economy is starting to drag a bit, inflatze, lack of goods, shortages,
people are worried about losing their jobs, etc
then of course, anxiety about the war
there's a lot of negative sentiment about the war, similar to Vietnam for the USA
what's missing is an organized protest against the war
Putin has been very successful at preventing ANY kind of opposition to him within Russia
from controlling and distorting the media, to outright murder
whoever goes up against Putin, best not miss

it should be noted that it wasn't the Roman people who murdered the tyrant Caesar
it was other politicians in the Roman Senate
et tu Brute?

sadly, however, murdering Caesar, only meant he'd be replaced by other more brutal tyrants
which is likely to be Russia's future as well



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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2733 on: December 19, 2022, 02:38:59 PM »
A lot of the Russian mobiks look like they're in their fifties let alone forties.


That may be the heavy drinking making them look older than they are though.


Any disaffected Russian men should really be looking to join the Freedom of Russia Legion,which is now two Battalions strong ( around two thousand men ) .
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2734 on: December 19, 2022, 04:29:56 PM »
I know what the strength of a battalion  is (in the USA four companies)
I've served two countries already (USA and Israel) as an enlistee
back when I was "white and fluffy" and VERY young

I also know the looks I'd get from wimmin staring at me in my uniform
so I imagine that today if I wore tight fitting fatigues and a cocky beret in Odesa
coupled with the mystique of being a "foreign fighter"
I could kick back on Arcadia on Saturday night
and even a fossil like me could get some MAJOR action
and that's the sweetest kind, believe me...

you can't blame poor mobniks for the phuque-ups of their leader
no one in Russia is free
no one
everyone is a prisoner there
and everyone learns how to be a "model prisoner"

when Putin is deposed, it won't be because he started a war that killed a lot of Russians
he'll be deposed because he failed to retake Ukraine
Russians are the world's ultimate cynics
but never smart enuff to realize
that the joke's on them

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2735 on: December 21, 2022, 05:39:33 AM »
Any of you guys in the USA going to be in Washington today to welcome President Zelensky ?


I'm sure you know he'll be carrying a Ukrainian flag personally signed by the defenders of Bakhmut yesterday,to be given to the USA as a thank you for your support.


As with Churchills visit to the USA during WW2 this is a pivotal moment in World history...and is huge for all of us,for our children and their children.
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2736 on: December 21, 2022, 02:27:43 PM »
zelensky and his security team took a train from Ukraine to poland
and then flew from Poland to Edwards AFB outside of DC
in the train's first class sleeper car you can fit 4 guys with their Kninkovs stowed in luggage
I wonder if the Ukrainian customs police on board knew it was Zelensky in the sealed cabin
my guess, is that at first no, but once underway they were told after their cellphones were taken away!!
this is EXACTLY howI used to smuggle "stuff" like platinum out of Russia/Ukraine!!!!

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2737 on: December 24, 2022, 11:56:16 AM »
Russians who last week WOULD NOT TAKE MY CALLS
ARE CALLING ME, this week!!!
why?
cuz Putin is stealing their money from their bank accounts!!!
they are being notified that their deposit accounts are being "involuntarily converted" into Russian bonds (that pay over 10% BTW!!)
rather that get their money tied into bonds, many are liquidating their accounts
leading to a short term liquidity crisis for banks
as people are hoarding cash
today, there are withdrawal limits on Russian banks to counter this

Russians are begging me to help them, but I tell them. "I am retired" and have enough bonds, and don't want ANY bonds in ruble denomination, spossiba druzya!
going forward, I see MAJOR financial chaos for Russia in 2023!!!


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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2738 on: December 24, 2022, 03:18:47 PM »
That's funny, I could imagine their disarray
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2739 on: December 25, 2022, 07:27:11 PM »
Russia built the Berlin wall
Russia had a very big fall
all of Putin' tanks
and all of Putin's men
won't be able to put Russia back together again

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2740 on: December 26, 2022, 11:30:17 AM »
Ruble down 20%.


Natural Gas price below last December.


Oil trading in the low $80's.


Patriots arriving in Ukraine soon.


Engels airbase hit twice,


Bakhmut holding.


Putler begging North Korea and Iran for weapons.


I don't know how to break this to Russia,but it's not going well for them ..and even rwd123 has gone missing from here..i wonder why ?  ;D
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2741 on: December 26, 2022, 02:20:54 PM »
100,000+ casualties, killed, seriously wounded, missing, etc
200,000 middle-aged men mobilized plus new conscription cycle of roughly same amount
400 million USD per day war cost
thousands of tanks, hundreds of aircraft, one major naval vessel
North Stream I and II DESTROYED! multi-billion loss for Russia, major contraction in oil and gas sales and production as well...
russian GDP contracted by 4% this quarter and is expected to drop another 4% next quarter
so by early summer 1/8 of Russia's GDP will have disappeared...
Russia has begun the involuntary conversion of private savings accounts into Russian government bonds causing people to withdraw their savings leading to a banking liquidity crisis
russian manufacturing exports have fallen 30% from a year ago
$60 cap on russian oil
huge surge in USA exporting LNG to replace Russian gas, i.e. USA eats Russia's lunch!!!
there are about 20 MAJOR mysterious fires every week in Russia
shortage of foreign components from car and aircraft parts to computer chips leading to manufacturing slowdown compounded by labor shortage due to mobilization
Russian solution to labor shortage - repeal child labor laws, make labor mandatory, so Russian children can now sing "Volga River Boatman's Song" Acapela while working after school in factories
Russians have travel and currency restrictions and other reduced freedoms as a result of the war
AND...
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            way
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2742 on: December 31, 2022, 09:02:04 AM »
This is a report from an American reporter who embedded with the AFU on the frontline.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/01/02/trapped-in-the-trenches-in-ukraine
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2743 on: December 31, 2022, 10:51:41 AM »
I hope you're not trying to "guilt-trip" some of us for not "being there"
even though, frankly we should be...
I have been SMART about my military service, both in the USA and Israel when I was young and volunteered to serve in a "technical" unit in both countries
this not only let me serve in a safe, comfortable environment (back then computers needed air conditioned rooms) but also gave me the BEST JOB AND BUSINESS NETWORKING you could ever imagine!!
what you civilians don't realize is that for every front-line soldier who carries a rifle, there's at least 10 whose jobs are to support him, everything from medics to truck engine repair
oh, and IED manufacturers
yes, let's not forget the bomb makers who will bring the thunder to Putin
PS, did you know that explosives are vasodilators?  sniff some and watch how your body reacts, after I did this, I threw away all the Viagra I had!!  weird!! I had no idea!!
OTOH, maybe it's "just me"

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2744 on: December 31, 2022, 11:53:38 AM »
This is a report from an American reporter who embedded with the AFU on the frontline.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/01/02/trapped-in-the-trenches-in-ukraine

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On the other hand in a moment of weakness I think I might op for a romance adventure instead. Similar write up but hopefully with explosions in all the right places.

Seriously though I think the article demonstrates that matters of troop loss may not be so different on the Ukrainian side. Is the Foreign Legion & foreigners bearing the brunt of the attacks and taking heavy losses but those losses not being reported as they aren't counted as 'Ukrainians' for that purpose? Are many foreigner fighters on the Ukrainian side leaving of their own accord with few foreigners coming into replace them. Then of course casualties among foreign fighters. I've no doubt Ukrainian forces have fought well and I am sympathetic to their cause, but I've never gotten the feeling that the Ukrainian government have been at all honest about their troop losses. If anything I tend to get the impression that they suppress their true troop loss figures more than the Russians do. I struggle to trust many a government but the Ukrainian government in particular I would be wary off, they've gotten a lot of sympathy because of the aggressive invasion by Russia but I'm just not sure people, journalists, politicians, etc are digging as they should be to hold the Ukrainian government to account and that as with all governments I believe is necessary.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2745 on: December 31, 2022, 12:20:42 PM »
Most reliable sources have AFU losses at around 50,000.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2746 on: December 31, 2022, 02:41:33 PM »
your number doesn't include Ukrainian civilians...
contrast that with number of Russian civilians killed...


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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2747 on: December 31, 2022, 04:41:39 PM »
Yes, it doesn’t. I believe the government has released estimates of civilian deaths.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2748 on: December 31, 2022, 05:10:06 PM »
gulf of mexico is far away from Russia
we're just a bunch of nautical speed boat racing enthusiasts
who like carbon fiber speed boats with Kawasiki water cooled inboards
yup, nothing more to see here...

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2749 on: December 31, 2022, 05:36:09 PM »



 If anything I tend to get the impression that they suppress their true troop loss figures more than the Russians do. I struggle to trust many a government but the Ukrainian government in particular I would be wary off, they've gotten a lot of sympathy because of the aggressive invasion by Russia but I'm just not sure people, journalists, politicians, etc are digging as they should be to hold the Ukrainian government to account and that as with all governments I believe is necessary.


What a load of nonsense.


The last "official " admission of losses by Russia was on 12th October,when Defense Minister Sergie Shoigu claimed that 5,397 Russian soldiers had died in Ukraine.


It's ok honest Sergie....Trench believes you.


And you now claim that the Russian Government is more honest about it's losses than the Ukrainian one...well in that case as the norm is for invaders to lose more troops than defenders at a ratio of 3:1 that would put Ukrainian military deaths at around 1,800 at that time,and yes that would include the foreign fighters.


Happy now ?


Of course with such a relatively low loss amount for their forces one wonders why honest Russia felt the need to mobilize another 300,000 men. :rolleyes:



The same Russian Government who proclaimed they had absolutely no intention of invading Ukraine back in February and that it was all western propaganda,and then a couple of days later invaded Ukraine.


You're not supplementing your income by now working for the Russian propaganda troll factory are you ?


Give your head a wobble FFS.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2022, 06:20:45 PM by Chelseaboy »
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