Large age difference

[ML]

Whatever happened to TG?  Think he held the age diff record 'round here.

He was here in Feb 2020

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=24087.msg527412#msg527412

[Turboguy]

Yep, and back today.

[Turboguy]

I haven't heard from Ray for a few years, but ironically, last I heard, he and Irina were still together (but that's a while back)....

Ray was "The Defender" of the faith.

Just as an update we are still together.  I believe assuming nothing unexpected happens for in the months ahead we will have completed 15 years of married life late this year.  I am amazed that anyone could put up with me for such a long time.


Someone mentioned the age difference which for us is 37 1/2 years.  I would not recommend that for anyone and if I am honest I have to say it did create a few issues but pretty much manageable issues for us.

[Grumpy]

Yep, and back today.

Try not to come around so much that you wear out your welcome.

[Turboguy]

Thank you for the sage advice Grumpy.   

[ML]

Just as an update we are still together.  I believe assuming nothing unexpected happens for in the months ahead we will have completed 15 years of married life late this year.  I am amazed that anyone could put up with me for such a long time.


Someone mentioned the age difference which for us is 37 1/2 years.  I would not recommend that for anyone and if I am honest I have to say it did create a few issues but pretty much manageable issues for us.

Good to see you around Ray.
Too bad about our Steelers this year.
I didn't realize that Irina was that much older than you.

[Turboguy]

I didn't realize that Irina was that much older than you.

I didn't either but if she is 37 1/2 years older than me she is looking pretty good for someone getting close to 120 years old.

[BillyB]

Good to see you again TG and thanks for the update!

[I/O]

I am amazed that anyone could put up with me

Me too..

Ray, great to see you're still around and doing well.

For those who don't know Ray, I always thought he was too much the defender of the age gap advocates but, a finer gentleman with whom to conduct an online debate, one would doubtful find.

Ray, that ability to remain unruffled has no doubt served your marriage to an intelligent and exasperating, as most of them are, Russian woman, very well.

I wish you as many happy years as you've already had together but if I crunch some numbers, that probably a stretch...🤭

All the best, you're one of the best....

[Turboguy]

Thanks for the nice comments.  I appreciate it and it was nice to see both of you are still around and doing well.  I think the ability to remain unruffled could probably make married to a RW much easier.   I can't say we have ever had an argument in the decade and a half we have been together but I do think the ability to not get ruffled helped with that. Of course picking a good woman is the real key to success.

[ML]

Thanks for the nice comments.  I appreciate it and it was nice to see both of you are still around and doing well.  I think the ability to remain unruffled could probably make married to a RW much easier.   I can't say we have ever had an argument in the decade and a half we have been together but I do think the ability to not get ruffled helped with that. Of course picking a good woman is the real key to success.

Turbo, are you actually saying there has been no argument because an argument must be a two sided event ?  i.e. Your ability to remain unruffled !

[2tallbill]

This subject is constantly thought about by the Newbies and lurkers out there.
Do you want to have a long term successful marriage or do you want a short
term arm trophy who will eventually dump you and go elsewhere.

This is not the only thread about this. You can also find these threads if you look
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=5714.0

And here
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=7419.0

[2tallbill]

Bill's general theory of FSUW age relativity

Each man has what should be considered a package.

1. Looks: How purdy are you?
2. Physique: This includes height, weight, muscles, stanima or the lack thereof.
3. Social skills: How well do you function in a social situation with women?
4. FSU experience: Have you dated one of these creatures before?
5. Language: Can you say more than Da ili nyet? Do you know what ili means?
Can you read any Cyrillic?
6. Living/Lifestyle?
Do you live on a beach in Hawaii? (good) in Nome Alaska (bad) in your
mothers basement (bad) Last wife was eaten by a crocodile (bad) local
cannibals (bad) The oil fields of Norf Dakoty (bad) member of a cult (bad)
7. How much time, money and energy can you spend on this pursuit?
8. Money: If you make more than $100K or less than $100K add or
subract 1 year depending on if you are above or below that number.
Two weeks of vacation per year and/or using credit cards to pay for it
is dividing by zero, living on the moon without a space helmet, getting into
a shootout without a gun or bullets. Stop! Fix your situation then come back
only after you fixed it. 

Assign a value to each of these things from one to five and add up your points
then divide by 8. This is your value number. 

Take your age, subtract 10 years then subtract your value number. This is your
X factor. Special note: Every value number is less than 4 then you add 1 year to
your X factor.

If you have 4 three's then look at the math.

Take your age say 40-10 = 30 add 4 years and you get 34.
Do not write, date or talk to any woman who is less than 34 years old.

Do not pursue a woman who is younger than your X factor. If you do you are
in a risky situation. That doesn't mean 100% you are doomed, but you are 
doomed +90% of the time.

If you are risk adverse then you take your age and subtract 7 years and then
calculate your X factor.

In the FSU every woman really wants marriage and a family. If she has a child
she really also wants a father for her child who will treat the child kindly and
set an example as a role model for that child.

[krimster2]

i'd consider a $100,000 yearly income as the bare minimum for a "junior" player, someone with a simple lifestyle and tastes and is young enuff that their income is still gonna grow in the future

keep in mind that marryin a Russkie is a freakin money pit, and EVERY bit of that money is gonna come from you
engagement ring, wedding, honeymoon, CLOTHES/SHOES, healthcare (DENTISTRY!)
then after ya teach 'em how to drive, an acura SUV

oh, and that cute little bachelor bungalow, ditch that for a 5 bedroom McMansion with pool and new designer furniture

and then along comes kids
a trust fund for each, moment they're born
new car when they're 16, another new car at 17, after they wreck the first one
new iphones, imacs every christmas, $500/month horse boarding + vet bills
then after high school, a top tier university is $50,000+ yr for tuition/books, per kid

$100,000?
that's a freakin "rounding error"....

if you make below, $100,000 per anum, then you be dreamin, my friend
like yes, I am considering a 70 foot yacht on the med with a helipad while you're havin lunch at McDonald's
yeah, and yur gonna have a russian super model for your yacht, of course you are...
OTOH, entertaining a fantasy, might be the antidote for despair
nobody like havin the SADZ

Postscript

age difference?
hollywood just released a new film " Killers of the Flower Moon" that deals with the subject of may-december romances
I suppose like all other human endeavors, there are successes as well as failures
there is no universal quality of the process of aging
everyone does it differently
however, some men acquire emotional maturity with age along with self-awareness and self-control and that enables them to elevate another's needs above their own
"to each according to their needs - from each according to their ability"
older dewds tend to have more ability than younger ones
if you have a prized rose in your garden, you will do everything you can to protect and care for it, an older man can appreciate the bloom of youth much more than a younger one can who just takes it for granted
sadly, you incels just don't get to experience the inner joy of having a beautiful woman in your life, how it makes your life more livable
life is too short, especially for those who never truely lived

when I look at the sad state that most of humanity finds itself in
I am given to despair

me thinks there is some connection between a more challenging economy and the increasing difficulties younger unmarried people face
I'm a boomer! who grew up in a golden time in Post-War America,
that world's now in the rear view mirror and fading fast
while we're zipping down the highway, gawd knows where...

but...
if the PROBLEM is economic
then so to must be the SOLUTION

and if'n I were a young incel(instead of an old stud put out to pasture), this is what i'd focus on like a lazer
SHOW ME THE FREAKIN' MONEY!!!
and it wouldn't matter HOW I got the money, as long as I GOT it...
(touches finger to nose)

[Boethius]

If one assumes people don't marry because they're in love, then age differences don't matter.  The better half says it's also good if there's a young stud next door.

[2tallbill]

i'd consider a $100,000 yearly income as the bare minimum for a "junior" player, someone with a simple lifestyle and tastes and is young enuff that their income is still gonna grow in the future

Of course you are right, but I used a lower figure because somebody would make a point
that if you lived in Des Moines and your house is paid off, blah, blah, blah, and had no debt
yada, yada yada. So I lowered the number to avoid that argument but I made it high enough
to be more than triple what our resident pauper rationalizer/philosopher makes per year so
that he couldn't hitch his wagon and his less than Walmart Greeter salary to include himself
in the Des Moines exception.

By eliminating the Des Moines exception I avoided Mr Latch-on including himself as an
exception.

http://www.indeed.com/cmp/Walmart/salaries/Greeter?period=yearly

[2tallbill]

If one assumes people don't marry because they're in love, then age differences don't
matter.  The better half says it's also good if there's a young stud next door.

You have to win the girls heart period, no exception. You do not have a chance if
you are 44 seeking 24 especially if you have mediocre social skills, are average in
many ways and can barely afford traveling to meet her.

By contrast if you are 44 and seek a woman who is 39 you will have a far better chance of
winning her heart if you are attentive and actively pursue her. Wasting time on twenty
somethings is going to delay finding a good woman who wants you to pursue her and
win her heart.

Living on a beach in warm Hawaii might help you get the first meeting/date. You still have
to do the work (which is fun and exciting) of sweeping her off her feet and winning her heart.

[2tallbill]

i'd consider a $100,000 yearly income as the bare minimum for a "junior" player, someone
with a simple lifestyle and tastes and is young enuff that their income is still gonna grow
in the future

A man with above average looks, confindence, social skills and who obviously has
potential for more can intrigue an FSUW. They actually might prefer hitching their
wagon to that man, than somebody who they suspect will have many mistresses. 

A man is a package of traits, that is the purpose of me reviving this thread.
Whatever your package has in it. Brad Pitt is more handsome, has more money
and is more exciting. However he is not in Dumpsk pursuing Miss Sexualnaya
Mr Forum reader is.

Mr Forum reader needs to take stock in himself, create the best version of himself
and to pursue women who will want him at least as much as he wants her. If Mr
Forum reader is say 44 and he pursues Miss Sexualnaya who is 24 then he better
be handsome, charming and exciting otherwise he is barking up the wrong tree
and delaying finding the love of his life.

[ML]

Wife and I are working physically hard (and me mentally hard) in renovating a second house we purchased locally.

And she is working in the very large garden she insists on still having every year.

She now frequently mentions how her back and other areas hurt.

I say to her:  "You cannot have such ailments because you are my much younger trophy wife."

She replies:  "I think that time and situation has passed."

Perhaps I should have sought an even larger age gap.

[krimster2]

stud next door?
well....
that would be me!

and yes, here's the teenage daughter of my neighbor who used to swim in my pool "au natural"
I'd dry her off with a fluffy towel and gave her her very first strawberry margarita
lovely girl, with "big naturals"
and she'd always wait until after my wife and daughters left to go shopping, before she came over
beautiful girl with delicate white skin, green-eyed blond
just graduated high school

it's a man's life in Krim
there was no such thing as an American Incel in Crimea baby, it would be IMPOSSIBLE!!!
you'd be tapping girl's like this ALL THE TIME in the summer
these young girls were really hot
and it was pretty easy to get them out of their clothes in the summer
and they had "hard bodies" that would blow your mind

[Turboguy]

Turbo, are you actually saying there has been no argument because an argument must be a two sided event ?  i.e. Your ability to remain unruffled !

During those 15 years I don't ever recall us having an argument.   There were a couple of times I got my butt chewed but there was cause and she was right.  Of course women are always right.  Ask any, they will tell you that is a fact.

[2tallbill]

I say to her:  "You cannot have such ailments because you are my much younger trophy wife."

She replies:  "I think that time and situation has passed."

Perhaps I should have sought an even larger age gap.

Cracking me up!

[Grumpy]

 I had a younger trophy wife....she was the participation trophy in a train wreck marriage.