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« Reply #525 on: June 25, 2016, 01:45:24 AM »
Interesting article on the treatment those critical of Russia's government may expect -


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/violence-against-russias-web-dissidents-raises-fresh-fears-for-internet-freedoms
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #526 on: June 27, 2016, 07:59:46 AM »
Interesting article on harassment of US diplomats by Russians.  It is not restricted to those living in Russia.


http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/russia-harassing-u-s-diplomats-by-reportedly-entering-their-homes-moving-furniture-and-defecating-on-the-carpet
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #527 on: June 27, 2016, 08:17:28 AM »
Interesting article on harassment of US diplomats by Russians.  It is not restricted to those living in Russia.


http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/russia-harassing-u-s-diplomats-by-reportedly-entering-their-homes-moving-furniture-and-defecating-on-the-carpet


Lovely. Defecating on the carpet. I wonder when Putin will re-institute the KGB?


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« Reply #528 on: June 27, 2016, 08:22:29 AM »
The former KGB is running Russia, so no need for reinstitution.


I have been subject to this kind of surveillance, though no furniture rearranging or defecation.  It is to send a message, and it does have an effect on your behaviour.  I realized that only when I left the USSR.  Of course, unlike diplomats, I didn't have formal training to deal with this, which really is about, pardon the expression, mindf######. 
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #529 on: June 27, 2016, 08:36:23 AM »
One of the things they did to me was to place familiar faces in my path.  So, for a few days, I would be walking around and would see my father's face all over, sitting in a restaurant, or passing me in the street and bumping into me.  Another day, it would be my sister, or my mother, or Grandfather.  TBH, I didn't make the connection initially, but the better half did immediately when I told him I'd "seen my father's face".
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After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #530 on: June 27, 2016, 09:27:08 AM »
Boe, you mean pictures of your father, sister, etc., or people who looked very much like your father, sister, etc.
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« Reply #531 on: June 27, 2016, 11:12:17 AM »
The US Dept of State decided not respond in kind.  I agree with the US taking the high road.  However, I feel we should increase security and catch one of the Russian barbarians in the act. 

This is an old Russian tactic.  In 1986 I visited Dutch diplomatic friends  stationed in Moscow.  They had a fine, large  apartment (three children).  They told me  "someone" repeatedly entered their apartment during the day while they were away.  My friends knew this happened because the intruder left the lights on, rearranged the furniture, or sometimes used the toilet without flushing.  The implied message, "we are watching you."

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« Reply #532 on: June 27, 2016, 01:58:01 PM »
Boe, you mean pictures of your father, sister, etc., or people who looked very much like your father, sister, etc.

People that were their dopplegangers.

You could tell that some of the agents choosing them had seen them in person, and others were working from photos.


If I posted half of the stories of things that happened to me, and even an eighth of those that happened to the better half, no one would believe them.  I've already been accused of lying, but I have no reason to lie about anything I post here.  So, I generally don't tell those stories, and won't.
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After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #533 on: June 27, 2016, 02:52:09 PM »
People that were their dopplegangers.

You could tell that some of the agents choosing them had seen them in person, and others were working from photos.


If I posted half of the stories of things that happened to me, and even an eighth of those that happened to the better half, no one would believe them.  I've already been accused of lying, but I have no reason to lie about anything I post here.  So, I generally don't tell those stories, and won't.


Ehh, Bo, are you serious now? Do you also believe that the real cold water in Crimea since 2014 were also done by the evil Russians? How much power and resources do you think the Russians have to waste, really?

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« Reply #534 on: June 27, 2016, 03:16:14 PM »
I am absolutely serious. This was before and during so called "perestroika".

I have no doubt this occurred and why. It would not have been the experience of most students living in the USSR.
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #535 on: June 27, 2016, 04:18:53 PM »
Anyone who does not believe the USSR was the evil empire is deluded.
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After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #536 on: June 27, 2016, 05:36:27 PM »
bo there is alot of deluded people around  ;)

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« Reply #537 on: June 27, 2016, 06:42:34 PM »

Ehh, Bo, are you serious now? Do you also believe that the real cold water in Crimea since 2014 were also done by the evil Russians? How much power and resources do you think the Russians have to waste, really?

I noticed her stories were getting worse and worse every year  ;)

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« Reply #538 on: June 27, 2016, 06:47:41 PM »
I have posted some of these very early.  But not this one.  But they're true.  Unlike you, I was never a komsomol snitch, nor was I living with a family of informants.
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #539 on: June 27, 2016, 06:53:26 PM »
People that were their dopplegangers.

You could tell that some of the agents choosing them had seen them in person, and others were working from photos.



Bo, was this just to screw with you or send a particular message? 


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« Reply #540 on: June 27, 2016, 06:58:38 PM »
It was to make me miss home and leave.
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« Reply #541 on: June 27, 2016, 07:44:41 PM »
It was to make me miss home and leave.


Crazy, they really took the mind games to a whole new level.

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« Reply #542 on: June 27, 2016, 07:59:52 PM »
Yeah, but it was never about me.
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #543 on: June 28, 2016, 05:14:36 PM »
Anyone who does not believe the USSR was the evil empire is deluded.
Evil Empire? Maybe, their system was destined to eventually collapse, as will the U.S.

Just curious were you originally married during the Soviet era?

 
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« Reply #544 on: June 28, 2016, 05:30:55 PM »
Yes, I married before the collapse. In fact, before so called glasnost'.
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After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #545 on: June 28, 2016, 06:51:05 PM »
Yes, I married before the collapse. In fact, before so called glasnost'.
Thank you, I thought that might be the case.

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« Reply #546 on: June 29, 2016, 12:08:35 AM »
Evil Empire? Maybe, their system was destined to eventually collapse, as will the U.S.

Not maybe.  Definitely.  A comparison of the US to the USSR, in terms of fundamental rights, or even lifestyle, is silly.
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #547 on: June 29, 2016, 06:55:44 AM »
Not maybe.  Definitely.  A comparison of the US to the USSR, in terms of fundamental rights, or even lifestyle, is silly.
Perhaps if your world view was not so tainted by your hatred of Russia you might realize that the world is not good or evil, not black and white. Every country has its problems and issues. My wife has relatives and friends who are very happy living, working and raising their families in Russia. Several have spent time with us here in the U.S. and elsewhere so they know and understand the differences, yet they are happy and content at home.

As I understand it you live in Canada, many believe (including me) that Canada is a socialist state, with obscene hate crime laws restricting free and open speech as well as numerous other issues.

We have been to and through Canada several times mostly in the west, a beautiful region, yet I would not want to live in Canada. That dose not make it a bad place for others, Russia is no different, some people like and prefer living there others do not for whatever reason.





 

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« Reply #548 on: June 29, 2016, 08:10:05 AM »
Perhaps if you didn't make wild and erroneous assumptions, I could take you seriously.

I don't hate Russia. Canada is not a socialist state. And none of that has anything to do with the USSR.
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #549 on: June 29, 2016, 09:07:42 AM »
Perhaps if you didn't make wild and erroneous assumptions, I could take you seriously.

I don't hate Russia. Canada is not a socialist state. And none of that has anything to do with the USSR.
"Canada is not a socialist state?"

Are you in complete denial of reality or simply delusional?

As for the USSR. Was it an Evil Empire? Everything depends on your point of view, yes they were a totalitarian state, yes many atrocities were committed.

That is in the past. As were many of the atrocities committed by the U.S. against the native American people.

Learning from history is one thing, complaining and living in the past as you seem to be is something else all together.

 

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