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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2017, 09:44:10 AM »

Jerk!!! Unemployed and homeless men need love too and they deserve a smokinhotkova on their arm just as much as you deserve it you you hard working man.
Well my wife does want me to work.less...

Does Ukraine International airline and Aeroflop  accept EBT cards ?
Sign me up!

:)

All joking aside,  often when I searched, I had the time to do so, because I was off injured or between contracts. So zero income.

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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2017, 09:54:33 AM »
Deserve is a dangerous word ML,
For better or worse few of us get what we truly *deserve*.
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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2017, 10:19:33 AM »
Hmm

I see our Trench is as enlightened re Govt debt levels as he is re social interaction:

More education for you, Trench



The Darkest coloured nations have the most govt debt...( related to GDP)  .. You might like to check the stats ... The 'Chinese' looking FSU lady's nation likely has less public debt - proportionally than the UK, USA .....

Ah, me mobe :D Doesn't this map just prove my point that Greece & Italy which have a darker brown than the UK are deeply in the do do. Sure, things there is a high amount of debt to GDP in UK but GDP in UK is a lot higher than in Italy or Greece so each percentage point of GDP that is not given to debt in UK bring in a fair amount of dosh, in Italy & Greece it bring in very little, and of course they are at or near the 100 percent disaster area.

Both Russia & Ukraine as we can see from the map have a lot less debt to GDP than UK or US but I'm guessing their GDP is not very good either, especially Ukraine. Otherwise they would be very wealthy and they of course are not. In Ukraine, few people were buying much in the shops and I think their economy is going from bad to worse and getting in real trouble now, inflation has come down but the damage was already done and the austerity measures it too took really seem to be devastating their economy.
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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2017, 10:35:26 AM »
Just talking in general terms lacking further specific info, Bobimy may well be in the almost 60% homeowner group without a mortgage.  http://www.oecd.org/els/family/HM1-3-Housing-tenures.pdf  Someone in Italy is almost 3 times as likely than in the US to own their home outright and this is not restricted just to those that are well off.  That probably represents 30+% of a decent salary anywhere.  Can be anywhere, there's usually no 'poor' side of town.  Paupers and millionaires can live side by side. Property taxes practically zero. Think I paid 15 bucks for our villa on a good acre of land.  Whether one is on unemployment, welfare or whatever healthcare is universal and 'free' so what's that worth as a % of income?  Other factors, cellphone charges are cheap here. a 10gb per month plan will cost you 5 EUR for a month include practically unlimited calls and SMS and it's 10 EUR per month.  Fixed fast fiber internet installation around 30 bucks a month.  Food prices reasonable for decent home cooked meals and even eating out.  Immigration visa costs negligible, 50 bucks if that.  Travel costs well.. go figure a lot less than from the US for sure.  The further south you go chances are good you live near the ocean.  Lots of folks, even professionals work on the side and odd jobs for cash even if employed, much more so if unemployed, typically paid somewhere between 5-10 bucks an hour cash.  He probably has some savings as well if he's seriously considering a trip.

Just sayin' this to add some perspective.  If he's honest and finds a girl that loves him what's the problem.. She might find herself in a secure home or apartment near the beach or maybe even an ocean view, decent healthcare, fast internet, living a simple but debt free life without much stress with plenty of FSU folks around for company. A good cappuccino or coffee is just around the corner.  When her hubby finds a new job they'll have a month of vacation to enjoy together that same year and don't have to worry too much about saving for university level education if they decide to have kids.

My bottom line with discussions about the costs of this venture - If you need to go into any debt at all, don't go.

Yes, but is a FSW really going to satisfied with, "a simple but debt free life without much stress" I tend to get the impression they are not looking for half measures here and the majority of FSU that are serious are looking for a guy who owns his own home, usually outright or if with a mortgage one he can easily cover (i.e a good income) and a good bit of savings on top. Personally I think going out there with anything much less than owning your own home with some saving in the bank make the viability of the venture more difficult and starts getting to the pint of it not being a good idea, though no doubt some have managed it. I think this kind of demonstrated the type of financial set up to go into this venture with and even then it means finding a girl who is going to be decent by you.

The FSU folk around for company I think a guy has to really watch as with the case of Indle King she soon cheated on him once a decently well of Russian guy came up on the radar. So the guy would have to be assured that she is really well into him no doubts or he could end up being used as an immigration mule.
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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2017, 10:54:18 AM »
Yes, but is a FSW really going to satisfied with, "a simple but debt free life without much stress"



Are you going to be satisfied with a plain looking woman with an average body and live a life without any adventure with her. It's normal for men and women to want more. I don't want a gold digger but I also don't want a woman who is satisfied living a live in a trailer park. Just because a woman wants more, it doesn't mean she's bad. She may inspire you to be a harder, more responsible worker and she may even work herself to obtain more in life. If a woman wants to eat good food, wear good clothes and cosmetics, live in a good house in a good neighborhood, and have her kids go to good schools, is that a bad thing?


Trench, you probably can admit one of your weaknesses is being able to read women. This weakness fuels your belief that you are going to get taken for a ride every time you are in a relationship. This paranoia is going to destroya.


I don't make a habit of recommending what I'm about to recommend but some people need help beyond what they are capable of doing themselves. Since you can't read women, create another profile and use a photo of a guy that is better looking and better dressed than you. When you are in communication with a woman and think she's a good woman that you want to visit, pull out the profile of the other guy and write her through that profile. Say something like "Hello, I'm visiting (her city's name) and was hoping to meet a woman I can help financially. Can we help each other?"  Be vague about the help you're asking for. She may ignore you or respond. Now if your girl writes back and say, "If you want a tour guide, I can do the work for you." don't be upset. She is entitled to work a job in exchange for money. If she asks what she must do, tell her you want sex and will give money for this. If she accepts or starts negotiating, you have your answer to what type of woman she is. Money is important to her and she'd share her body with every guy who gives her money. BUT....if she ignores you and will only work a job that doesn't require her to spread her legs, then she has integrity. At that point you can trust her and move the relationship in the right direction. One of your problems is you never fully trust the women you are in relationships with. Maybe they aren't trustworthy or maybe you are incapable of trusting women. So use the other profile to help you figure out what kind of woman your dealing with since you can't figure it out yourself.


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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2017, 11:06:33 AM »

Are you going to be satisfied with a plain looking woman with an average body and live a life without any adventure with her. It's normal for men and women to want more. I don't want a gold digger but I also don't want a woman who is satisfied living a live in a trailer park. Just because a woman wants more, it doesn't mean she's bad. She may inspire you to be a harder, more responsible worker and she may even work herself to obtain more in life. If a woman wants to eat good food, wear good clothes and cosmetics, live in a good house in a good neighborhood, and have her kids go to good schools, is that a bad thing?


Trench, you probably can admit one of your weaknesses is being able to read women. This weakness fuels your belief that you are going to get taken for a ride every time you are in a relationship. This paranoia is going to destroya.


I don't make a habit of recommending what I'm about to recommend but some people need help beyond what they are capable of doing themselves. Since you can't read women, create another profile and use a photo of a guy that is better looking and better dressed than you. When you are in communication with a woman and think she's a good woman that you want to visit, pull out the profile of the other guy and write her through that profile. Say something like "Hello, I'm visiting (her city's name) and was hoping to meet a woman I can help financially. Can we help each other?"  Be vague about the help you're asking for. She may ignore you or respond. Now if your girl writes back and say, "If you want a tour guide, I can do the work for you." don't be upset. She is entitled to work a job in exchange for money. If she asks what she must do, tell her you want sex and will give money for this. If she accepts or starts negotiating, you have your answer to what type of woman she is. Money is important to her and she'd share her body with every guy who gives her money. BUT....if she ignores you and will only work a job that doesn't require her to spread her legs, then she has integrity. At that point you can trust her and move the relationship in the right direction. One of your problems is you never fully trust the women you are in relationships with. Maybe they aren't trustworthy or maybe you are incapable of trusting women. So use the other profile to help you figure out what kind of woman your dealing with since you can't figure it out yourself.

I thin that is actually a really good idea BillyB :D Anything that helps can be good in this process. Ok I am not that good at reading FSW but then it is a foreign culture I am not used to. If it was in UK I think I find it easier to read people, admittedly I don't always get it right and learn along the way but I think because of the cultural difference FSW are harder to read for quite a few WM. Your pretty clued up on people I think BillyB naturally as this comes across in your posts and I think is a large part of your success. For me I think vetting these girls in such a manner is certainly a very good idea and one I will do. For me I think it will save me countless time and money on messing around with the wrong type of girl, one after another.
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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2017, 11:41:08 AM »
BC, thanks interesting perspective.
I agree in general, and he could find a RW,as of course he can also find a local Italian woman.

Yeah it's always greener on the other side of the fence ;)

From his few posts, could not tell much but thought it might be a good idea to share differences that might make things a bit easier over here.  Just adding a a different POV.

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My sticking point is more on principal, than reality.
Sure he may not be going into debt, as the debt is transfered to others.
Likely not the worst use if gov means tested funds,lol but
regardless if he is using money previously saved, or aquired thru cash side jobs,it's a choice of how to use those verse nessicities in life,so ultimately the general public would  be funding his search.
Since there is no deadline to be married by a certain calender date,
why the need to do so now?
Well, for one, he has the time now on his side that he wouldn't have if he was working.  Seems he's been single most his life so could have stashed a nice sum over time. 1+1=2

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There is never a need to look abroad, only a wish.Plenty of Italian women right?
So wait to look when he can foot the bill,  and be in a better position to bring someone else into the situation.

didn't we all get the 'grass is greener' syndrome? ;)  He said he was a bit shy so that's also not so different than many FSUW seekers around here either.

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Maybe I'm just a jerk, but if a guy on welfare (different than unemployment ) in my county here in the u.s.(even with a paid off home) is making trips to the FSU bride hunting
It would strike me as wrong somehow.
I might be more sensitive to this issue, as I know a local couple where the unemployed man required a sponsor to bring his fiancee/wife. Yet now  he is still making more trips and seeing other girls while married. 
 Truth is stranger than fiction. :cluebat:

Well ya can look at it another way.. whatever funds he is receiving, could be unemployment and a translation difference.  He did say he was unemployed and maybe welfare was the word that google translate spit out.  He would get these funds anyway.  Italy has a very low birth rate so families are encouraged as they produce future taxpayers. 
 
I'd much rather see him build a family rather than become a druggie or drunk which in the end would cost more. Yeah strange things go on here and there.. as far as society goes it's background noise.  Just look at all the guys sending their bucks to FSU for chats, translations and pics from igor.. and those maxing out their credit cards at airline sites.  That strikes me somehow as wrong.

p.s. sorry if my response was a bit disjointed and bumpy, hard to keep up with ya on that bike!

Cheers! and good to see ya!

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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2017, 11:15:21 PM »
unfortunately I'm unemployed right now (living on welfare). Do you think this could a turn off for women?

I think a Russian woman would run the other way.

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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2017, 12:06:00 PM »
I think a Russian woman would run the other way.

Can you please advise on what long gained experience of either the Italian social system, or the views of Russian women (and these days, most WM go to Ukraine, not Russia, as in the former, the economy and life in general is in shambles) you base this on?

Lived in Russia?  Lived with a Russian woman?  Had a long term relationship with one?

I'd look at BC's posts on this issue.  He is an American who lives in Italy, and is long term married to a Russian.
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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2017, 12:10:22 PM »
Can you please advise on what long gained experience of either the Italian social system, or the views of Russian women (and these days, most WM go to Ukraine, not Russia, as in the former, the economy and life in general is in shambles) you base this on?

Lived in Russia?  Lived with a Russian woman?  Had a long term relationship with one?

I'd look at BC's posts on this issue.  He is an American who lives in Italy, and is long term married to a Russian.

What does Italy have to do with this? We are talking about an unemployed man who wants to find a Russian woman. I know plenty of Russian women. I have dated Russian women. I have been to banyas in NYC with multiple Russian women. Sorry, but Russian women want security, moreso than Western women. Tell me I am wrong.

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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2017, 12:13:59 PM »
The OP lives in Italy.  The Italian social system is very different from that in the US.


You are wrong. 



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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2017, 12:16:27 PM »
I missed the part where he lives in Italy, but still believe a Russian woman will do a 180 and walk the other way. Tell you what. I will be in Ukraine in a week.
I can ask 20 women in person about it. On video. What are you willing to put up? $500? Donated to a good cause? What do you say?

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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2017, 12:20:05 PM »
Yes, because UW never lie to WM, LOL.  Especially not to men paying the freight, and who are naive enough to believe 21 year old beauties go for men more than twice their age because of "chemistry".

Look, I lived in Ukraine a lengthy period.  I have Ukrainian relatives living from one end of the country to the other.  My long term unemployed nephew just got married.  Yeah, Ukrainian women are absolutely concerned about "security". 

One cannot make sweeping generalizations.  It will depend on the woman.  For women seeking a better/easier life, rather than their other half, yes, this will be an issue.  For a sincere woman looking for a man, not so much.
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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2017, 12:52:08 PM »
My long term unemployed nephew just got married. 

And his wife moved to another country to be with him, right?  ;)

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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2017, 12:54:06 PM »
No, they both moved to a different country to start a new life.


But, just think about what you posted. 
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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2017, 12:54:53 PM »
who are naive enough to believe 21 year old beauties go for men more than twice their age because of "chemistry".

I think you are confusing me with someone who does not know how the world works.

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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2017, 12:56:01 PM »
Yes, yes.  You've demonstrated here already how well you know how the world works. :rolleyes:
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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2017, 10:01:58 PM »
rw,

I know it looks like folks are piling in on you, but it''s because you're 'just' another 'chap' who is going to be fleeced and despite warnings - seems happy about it ;)

Honestly - we care - but see it ALL the time ...

BTW When you are referring to 'Russian' women you might be referring to Ukrainian women ( hence we say FSU women) and you are betting that one ( a married one ) who knows more about life there and suggesting 'jealousy' ? !  ...









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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2017, 10:14:46 PM »
rw,

I know it looks like folks are piling in on you, but it''s because you're 'just' another 'chap' who is going to be fleeced and despite warnings - seems happy about it ;)

Honestly - we care - but see it ALL the time ...

BTW When you are referring to 'Russian' women you might be referring to Ukrainian women ( hence we say FSU women) and you are betting that one ( a married one ) who knows more about life there and suggesting 'jealousy' ? !  ...

Eh, does not bother me really. I understand as they don't know all the details. I say let the cards play out and we will see what happens.

Yes by Russian I also include Ukrainian in there. Not following the rest of what you are saying, sorry.


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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2017, 10:39:10 PM »
Not following the rest of what you are saying, sorry.

Boethius, wagers and all ? ;)

Quite a lot of guys ( who've never been - miss they are dealing with a lady   - FSU lady and don't realise how amusing it is when they butt heads with an expert on the area AND a woman to boot and suggest they 'know  nothing ' ;)

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Re: Looking for a wife while unemployed... could it be a problem?
« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2017, 07:36:06 AM »
ML,

He might want to concentrate on


Fat chicks
after all "Fat-bottomed girls you make the rocking world go round"

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

 

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