More Bad News for Russia

[Boethius]

This is for Natural -


http://ukrainianweek.com/Society/128451

[Muzh]

LMFAO


You think he would read that?


If he is caught even peeking at it I bet he will be in the dog house for a very long time.

[Boethius]

Well, we'll see.


But I do have a question for Natural  - can you please name (by name) the "nazis" in Ukraine's government, and the policies they espouse which make them nazis?


I asked Shadow to name the nazis in Ukraine's government as well a few weeks ago.  I'm still waiting for that post to be answered, though he did say he would need some time.

[Muzh]

Well, we'll see.


But I do have a question for Natural  - can you please name (by name) the "nazis" in Ukraine's government, and the policies they espouse which make them nazis?


I asked Shadow to name the nazis in Ukraine's government as well a few weeks ago.  I'm still waiting for that post to be answered, though he did say he would need some time.

Yep


There are some members here that when confronted to supply you with their "facts" they just hide.

[Steamer]

This is for Natural -


http://ukrainianweek.com/Society/128451

So RT is just a propaganda rag but Ukraine weekly is the peak of integrity?

[Boethius]

Yes.  If you read Ukrainian Week consistently, you would note there are often articles critical of Ukraine - of its oligarchs, of political failures, of economic failures. 

[Steamer]

Yes.  If you read Ukrainian Week consistently, you would note there are often articles critical of Ukraine - of its oligarchs, of political failures, of economic failures.

Sounds like proof positive to me.   

[Boethius]

Well, I am not here to convince you.  You can continue to believe the lies you are fed from your Russian sources.


PS- Yanukovych was the best thing to happen to Ukraine since independence, Eastern Ukraine is all waiting to be rescued by their Russian brethren, and the fascists in Kyiv should all be hanged at noon.

[Steamer]

Well, I am not here to convince you.  You can continue to believe the lies you are fed from your Russian sources.


PS- Yanukovych was the best thing to happen to Ukraine since independence, Eastern Ukraine is all waiting to be rescued by their Russian brethren, and the fascists in Kyiv should all be hanged at noon.

Oh your propaganda source is MUCH better than mine. I just want you to see the irony in what you are saying.

[Taz]

Yes.  If you read Ukrainian Week consistently, you would note there are often articles critical of Ukraine - of its oligarchs, of political failures, of economic failures.

That is far more accurate than you might believe. Almost any Russian news source critical of Putin is shut down. There is much more freedom of press in Ukraine. Also see where I posted about the overall freedom index of countries.


Russia is in 5th place on number of journalists killed since 1992. It is pretty much smack in the middle with many other 3rd world countries. Amazing how many Russian journalists critical of Putin commit suicide while on vacation. So I think it would be pretty safe to say that nut much press is going to be critical of Putin.


Here is a quote by the Guardian in 2012


"Preston concludes - He is elected time and again. Yet a free press seems to mean pitifully little to him. You investigate? You report? You die, unavenged."

[Boethius]

Oh your propaganda source is MUCH better than mine. I just want you to see the irony in what you are saying.

Prove that anything posted at Ukrainian Week is inaccurate.  I can prove that numerous stories on RT are lies.

[AC]

So RT is just a propaganda rag but Ukraine weekly is the peak of integrity?

That sums it up pretty well.  But if you can't figure it out then you aren't very bright are you?  It's been posted so many times one would think it would sink in, but please tell us yourself, why is it that so many journalists critical of V. Putin end up dead or in a coma?

[Boethius]

Interview with a rebel.  Note his hometown.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/rebels-suffer-heavy-losses-battle-ukraines-debaltseve-n296841

[Steamer]

That sums it up pretty well.  But if you can't figure it out then you aren't very bright are you?  It's been posted so many times one would think it would sink in, but please tell us yourself, why is it that so many journalists critical of V. Putin end up dead or in a coma?

Because they're clumsy and keep walking in front of bullets and bombs, sheesh.
Talk about not being too bright.

[Steamer]

Prove that anything posted at Ukrainian Week is inaccurate.  I can prove that numerous stories on RT are lies.

Big Whoop. So can I.

[JohnDearGreen]

Funny thing.
I always thought the Jewish center of the world was Israel.

More Jewish in US than Israel.
1 million of Israel Jews (20%) are Russians claiming to be Jewish.
Interesting that there are only 200,000 Russians in Russia claiming to be Jewish.

[Boethius]

Ukraine had a much larger Jewish population than did Russia, and most Israeli Jews came from Ukraine, not Russia.


Meanwhile, Putin is upping the ante on provocations with the West.   


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/555454/Intercepted-Russian-bomber-was-carrying-a-nuclear-missile-over-the-Channel

[Muzh]

Oh your propaganda source is MUCH better than mine. I just want you to see the irony in what you are saying.

Enjoy your reading.


How Putin Secretly Conquered Russia's Social Media Over the Past 3 Years




http://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/01/30/how-putin-secretly-conquered-russias-social-media-over-the-past-3-years/

[Steamer]

"The system works like this: trolls flood a comments section with scripted complaints against the West or the liberal opposition, and the state-run media then reports these comments as “bloggers’ outrage,” fueling further conversations online, building what becomes an organic/artificial mix. In this way, Putin’s team is able to impose its agenda even on the Russian Internet’s liberal ghetto."



Oh deary me, what will we do?

[AC]

Propaganda is certainly annoying, however what will Putler do if the Ukrainians are adequately armed to defend themselves?  It turns out that the Obama administration is taking a fresh look at that. 


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-taking-a-fresh-look-at-arming-ukraine%e2%80%99s-forces-officials-say/ar-AA8S85V?ocid=iehp

[cc3]

Interview with a rebel.  Note his hometown.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/rebels-suffer-heavy-losses-battle-ukraines-debaltseve-n296841

NOT a rebel. He's a criminal moskali invader! 

[AkMike]

NOT a rebel. He's a criminal moskali invader! 

 Employed and supported by Russia.

[JayH]

And still it goes down down down & down.
We should have a competition to see who can predict where it will stop falling (ie the ultimate low point in Putin and his Kremlin kleptocrats  achieve)
Some time ago-- when it was laughably suggested that Putin would hit 63 this year along  the oil and rubble price  at 63-- now all well past that point--only leaves Putin to get to 63 !!
I nominated Oil price much lower than so far-- and rubble at 126( a multiple of 63)-- so far worse than even now.At the time I was joking-- but now-- maybe it is  possible.
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[sleepycat]

Yep... Keep the sheep population drunk and compliant.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/02/02/russias-economy-is-so-bad-it-has-cut-vodka-prices/

Must be the crowning achievement of mongoloid Putin's social policy to make hard liquor that affordable to even the poorest segment of the population.

The midget better start building more clinics for liver cirrhosis treatment. 

[jone]

Sleepycat,

I had posted a couple of months ago whereby the Duma was now allowing advertising again for alcohol.  It was a Moscow Times article, but cannot retrieve it.