How many women might really truly suit a man?

[Trenchcoat]

So not talking about how many women a guy can get to date him here, but rather, how many women that he gets to date could really suit him long term?

Of course guys get with women they aren't really suited too all the time and break up over time, and vice versa.

But what sort of range might a guy have?

Potentially possibly that range might be quite narrow. That only a small number of women per each man would suit a guy for a long term relationship.

Again not talking about a man having money and a woman getting with him for that for any length of time here. More if the guy was so, so for money and the woman was rating him more on how naturally into him she was and of course vice versa.

My guess would be that number of people that are naturally into each other (aside from eyeing up, sexual attraction) is probably quite low, I could be wrong, who knows? What do other members think of this topic on here?

[olgac]

I am not sure about men, but in general I don't believe at all there is only ONE person for each of us in this world
that we could have been compatible with. or that there are only very few people.
I think a normal person could be compatible: sexually and otherwise with quite a large number of people.

[Trenchcoat]

I am not sure about men, but in general I don't believe at all there is only ONE person for each of us in this world
that we could have been compatible with. or that there are only very few people.
I think a normal person could be compatible: sexually and otherwise with quite a large number of people.

I agree on thd point that for most if not all people that there is more than only ONE, that for most if not all people that there is probably more than 'the ONE'.

However I am not sure the number is that big with those we are naturally into where the relationship would last long term. I mean wanting to actually be with that person and not feeling the need to stray to another person.To kind of feel at home with that person that they are your other half if not actually necessarily only the one.

I mean take the example of two people being at odds and would never want to be with each other, so say if one is into partying and the other into reading books. In theory relationships may have occurred with such people but it's usually a rarity and usually their worlds often prove not the place the other wants to be or dies that well in even if they fancy being there.

Hence why I suggest there is probably in most cases only a fairly small number of men & women suited to being with each other long term.

[ML]

I think there are tens of thousands of women that I would be happy having a long term relationship with.

Same for any other man or woman.

I had dates (not just coffee and cake) with over 150 FSU women.

At least 30 of them would have made a good partner for me.

But I was just not quite ready to settle down . . . until current wife forced herself on me !!  :-)

[krimster2]

normalluy, I prefer a generic brand of woman...
cuz ya gonna pay extra for some "label"
and it don't mean she's any better than generic

most important
it's better to have a nice lookin one...

if she nags you, go to the pet store and buy all the tarrantulas, and put them in her closet
she'll "get the message"
and leave ya alone

[olgac]

I mean take the example of two people being at odds and would never want to be with each other, so say if one is into partying and the other into reading books. In theory relationships may have occurred with such people but it's usually a rarity and usually their worlds often prove not the place the other wants to be or dies that well in even if they fancy being there.

yes this true but there are still tons of people who love to party for a person who loves to party and tons of people who like a good book for a person who loves to read.

[krimster2]

for every zavodski boss
there's a robotnik

what if a large group of people behaved the same way like a large group of atoms?

Ionic bonding occurs when electrons are completely transferred between atoms, creating oppositely charged ions that attract each other,
while covalent bonding involves the sharing of electrons between atoms to achieve stability

sex is ionic bonding
while Marriage is covalent

next...orbital shells and how to pickup girls

[2tallbill]

I am not sure about men, but in general I don't believe at all there is only ONE person for each of us in this world
that we could have been compatible with. or that there are only very few people.
I think a normal person could be compatible: sexually and otherwise with quite a large number of people.

I agree.

Certainly that is how we survived as a species. 

[krimster2]

the better lookin she is....the more likely you are to endure her bad side

[2tallbill]

the better lookin she is....the more likely you are to endure her bad side

That's surely true as well.

[Bee Farmer]

Some estimates say the percentage of women who are even relationship material are about 3%. (Physically fit, no tattoos, no history of sex work such as OF, low body count, etc.)

If you look at the Myers-Briggs for personality compatibility, it all depends on your personality type as to what other types are compatible with you.

And of course, values come into play.  The lower your values and standards, the easier it is to find someone compatible.  Some cultures believe in soul mates...literally one person who is the other half of your soul.

I've heard it said that most guys idea of a committed relationship is a one night stand with the same woman every night...and there's a lot of truth to that.  They are just looking for sex with minimal emotional involvement.

[Trenchcoat]

Some estimates say the percentage of women who are even relationship material are about 3%. (Physically fit, no tattoos, no history of sex work such as OF, low body count, etc.)

If you look at the Myers-Briggs for personality compatibility, it all depends on your personality type as to what other types are compatible with you.

And of course, values come into play.  The lower your values and standards, the easier it is to find someone compatible.  Some cultures believe in soul mates...literally one person who is the other half of your soul.

I've heard it said that most guys idea of a committed relationship is a one night stand with the same woman every night...and there's a lot of truth to that.  They are just looking for sex with minimal emotional involvement.

I don't fully agree with that. Now that I have had time to consider my question more and seen what is around me I have come to the conclusion that it varies.

Potentially those people with either better natural social skills or looks probably have a greater number of people they can attract. However even they probably only have a limited number of people they are compatible enough with. I've seen those people in action and they can be the type when they knock around with a person for a short while then move onto another, then another, etc, etc until they find someone who suits them more than all those others - usually someone of similar social skills or attractive looking. As your famous phrase goes Bee Farmer, 'Birds of a Feather Flock Together'. I think that is largely true so the number of people that truly suit each other is limited at any level, for any type of person.

For example if one person likes to be very social they may find that they are happiest with someone else who wishes to discuss everything and be very social. They can both find many other people easily as they are both very socially engaging but those others don't do it for them enough as even the ones that are fairly sociable aren't sociable enough for them so they don't get the same great feeling from being with them and bouncing off each others conversation as much. I had an Uncle & Aunt that were both very sociable people and would chat to anyone, but they stayed with each other all their life after meeting, had kids and I don't think either ever cheated on the other, they boty seemed very happy with each other for the most part. 

For sure in theory times one type of person across the globe and similar compatible people could be in the thousands, but in the local area it might just be the odd one or two or so at best.

In terms of who is relationship material I think it's a lot higher than 3 percent though. People wouldn't get together and hold it together so long around the world if it was as little as 3 percent. I personally don't think physically fit or tattoos matter, I don't like tattoos but I don't think it means a person is not relationship material, it probably means the need to find someone who also likes tattoos though. How the person is mentally I think though can affect whether they are relationship material, they may not have to be perfect mentally but too far gone mentally and it's going to be pretty much a no go.

I personally also ding think that guys are so obsessive about sex either, a few are but most aren't. That may sound strange and contrary to what many may think of men (probably women lol) but I think a lot of men will happily rub themselves off than bother getting into relationship situations they know at heart aren't good places to be in. Men aren't usually as emotional as women are but they are often wanting other stuff other than sex. They often want children, someone to share their life with - companionship, someone they feel they can relate to, someone they can socialise with on their level, mutual support, etc, etc. Most guys know that any sexual urge they may have doesn't need a woman to relieve it, they can relieve it themselves and then right after they do so be free of such urges for a long while and get back to enjoying other things.

People of low values, well I would figure they would need to find another person with low values. I think they would struggle to understand a person with high values when they have crossed all supposed boundaries often without bothering them or thought. They would probably feel at home best with someone who is like wise and respect them the most because of it, high  value people I think they often just don't respect, they probably see high value people as mugs or they just don't get it. However even with low value people getting together I am not sure whether or not their relationship can survive long term in a low value situation. Some people I think get off on being shitty to each other or screwing around then screwing each other, etc they like the drama even if it looks dysfunctional to outsiders, while some might just feel stuck in that situation.

[krimster2]

so Bee Fahmah...

how "fit" are you for the dating game?
I don't see ANY names on yur dance card
yur all alone

what caused this?
don't blame it on "society" or some other outside factor
yur an incel, didja ever wonder WHY?

1. lack of education
2. lack of high status
3. perceived by women as socially isolated weirdo
4. the only sexual experience is yur right hand (unless yur left handed)
5. inbred hillbilly apeearance

even Steven Hawkings got a babe
yur not even close to snagging one

I can't blame ya fer feelin resentful
but yur blaming the wrong things

you failed to make the best of the bad situation you found yurself in
every prison has a key
you never found yurs or even bothered to look fer it
so you remained confined
and you blame others for this
and not yurself

and women can sense that there's "somethin" wrong with ya, so it makes 'em "skittish"
even Trench has a girl now....
oh, the shame and humiliation that must make you feel....
every time you spill yur seed on pornhub

[olgac]

I disagree that there are only 3% of marriageable women who are fit, have low body count, no tatoos etc.
What age range are we talking about here?
I am sure in their 20s at least 50% are like that even in US.
After 40 many US women start gaining weight.

But You can always go to another country where there are still many women like that.

In general the ideal westerner that women like in FSU is someone who had no problems with women in his country but just wants even more in a woman and is leveraging his passport to get a better deal. Nobody wants an incel for sure.

[ML]

In general the ideal westerner that women like in FSU is someone who had no problems with women in his country but just wants even more in a woman and is leveraging his passport to get a better deal. Nobody wants an incel for sure.

Lucky for me that I fit that bill.

[krimster2]

when I was a little kid I watched "Rocky and Bullwinkle" on TV
That's where I get sexually imprinted by "Natasha"
her dark visage, and Russian accent, caused a stirring in my loins that I did NOT understand

years later, I found myself in Ukraine, trying to setup a softwware development bizness there for working with European customers (low cost and only 1 hour time difference)
while there, I actually freakin MET Natasha
she made my slinky go "doing, doing, doing"

I was the only rich American she had ever met
I was like a creature from mythology
SHE came to me, with her charm ray set on FULL POWER
I was like a rabbit caught in the headlights about to get run over
I didn't stand a chance

[ML]

I disagree that there are only 3% of marriageable women who are fit, have low body count, no tatoos etc.
What age range are we talking about here?
I am sure in their 20s at least 50% are like that even in US.
After 40 many US women start gaining weight.

Olga, I am thinking that it's really after 30 that US women start gaining weight.

This year I sat out on front sidewalk at my city house Halloween evening to pass out candy. 
(Note: this is the first year I have passed out candy because before I lived out in country subdivision where no children came up to door because of quarter mile driveway to my house.)
I sat out that far because I didn't want kids and parents walking on my newly planted grass seed to come up to front porch.

There were scores of women (and some men) walking with their young children.
Most of the women were in their late 20s and 30s.
Only 3 or so out of 10 were not overweight.

Many fairly pretty in face (and this was before it was dark, so I could see quite well) . . . but 15 to 30 pounds overweight.

Surprisingly . . . three of the 30 something women pushing strollers said they would come back another day to chat with me if they saw me outside when they were pushing their babies for exercise.  All three of them were somewhat chubby.  I have no interest in them . . . other than to talk.  My over 50 wife has much better shape than them.

Note:  My wife was inside grading exams !!!

[olgac]

oh yes this is why I mentioned women in 20s. But yes US has an obesity epidemic and not just for women.
I have wrote you in personal email of why I think that is but mostly because many ingredients which aren't
sold in EU like transfats, high glucose corn syrup and so on are not available in EU.

It is totally possible to eat healthy in US too just need to carefully check the ingredients for everything.
Also since an immigrant walks much less, need to introduce another fitness activity

[krimster2]

I wouldn't of minded having an italian or french wife with Haute cuisine skillz
yur stomach is a much more important organ than your reproductive organ, however well formed and colored it may be

also having family there facilitates travel
unfortunately, can't goto RuZZia no more
or woulda already been there
same for Israel

I'll have to move to Costa Rica in the jungle when America falls
i've already killed off the local monkey tribes with a technique Russians taught me
so now they don't rip up all my cables and tear stuff up looking for food
cuz dey is dead

in costa rica you can hire local kids to collect poison dart frogs
and it's easy to use the local recipee to make yur own neurotoxin
and coat a small icepick with it

you can find all kinds of crazy stuff out in the jungle
locals think I'm a Blanco Diablo and don't mess with me cuz I'm a Bruho
I do nothing to dissuade them

[ML]

oh yes this is why I mentioned women in 20s. But yes US has an obesity epidemic and not just for women.
I have wrote you in personal email of why I think that is but mostly because many ingredients which aren't
sold in EU like transfats, high glucose corn syrup and so on are not available in EU.

It is totally possible to eat healthy in US too just need to carefully check the ingredients for everything.
Also since an immigrant walks much less, need to introduce another fitness activity

Olga, on related issue . . . just reading in local Sunday paper that . . . Medical Center Auxiliary’s Ball of The Year is coming up.

This is the kind of thing your 50 something female friend should be attending locally.  There she can dress to the hilt and show off her looks with no one thinking it is 'overdone.'

[olgac]

Olga, on related issue . . . just reading in local Sunday paper that . . . Medical Center Auxiliary’s Ball of The Year is coming up.

This is the kind of thing your 50 something female friend should be attending locally.  There she can dress to the hilt and show off her looks with no one thinking it is 'overdone.'

Thank You! She will check it out!

[rwd123]

I disagree that there are only 3% of marriageable women who are fit, have low body count, no tatoos etc.

Seinfeld considered 3-5% of the population date-able. I'd say a maximum 2-3%.

60% of women 20-39 in the USA are overweight (source: CDC). ~38% have tattoos in that age bracket (source: Pew Research Center). I'm not sure there's an accurate way to measure the rate of sex work (not just pros but sugar babies, OF 'models', etc.).

Bee Farmer forgot the most important attribute - not mentally unhinged. 10% of women aged 18-39 are on antidepressants, 16% aged 20-39 are on the contraceptive pill (which screws their hormones; source CDC). Around 25% reportedly have mental health issues (source: NIMH). Approximately 15% aged 18-39 have already divorced as well.

Perhaps more importantly, the culture (and laws) in western countries are not conducive for younger people to marry, men in particular. Men are better off heading to South America or South East Asia and staying there. The culture of younger generations is vastly different that the senior citizens who regularly post here.

[Boethius]

You’re no spring chicken yourself.

There are as many overweight men as women in the US ( according to CDC statistics).

Were you actually young (under say, 30), you would know tattoos are no big deal to youth.

[krimster2]

NO BO, don't GO SLOW

all the crazy undatable people are WOMEN, and would NEVER be a male like RWD123
of course...
cuz if it was, he's become a resentful misogynist and it would be reflected in his writing

Commander Krimster The People's Liberation Army

[Trenchcoat]

I disagree that there are only 3% of marriageable women who are fit, have low body count, no tatoos etc.
What age range are we talking about here?
I am sure in their 20s at least 50% are like that even in US.
After 40 many US women start gaining weight.

But You can always go to another country where there are still many women like that.

In general the ideal westerner that women like in FSU is someone who had no problems with women in his country but just wants even more in a woman and is leveraging his passport to get a better deal. Nobody wants an incel for sure.

Passport Bros

I agree with the comments that it's mainly the younger generation of girls that get tattoos, not all of them but I am sure many more than previous generations. I don't like it, I don't think it looks good and don't why they do it, to me it looks kind of skanky and a turn off. Maybe it's just seen as today's fashion and do they do whatever today's fashion is to be 'in with it'. I have noticed that even younger girls in Ukraine in their Fdate profile have tattoos. Whether they ended up on Fdate because local men rejected them for it who knows lol. Its not my second though so I'm not tempted there plus I already have a gf.

I think often but not always many men on their second (or more) time around from Marriage in the West probably have a higher success rate than guys with difficulty dating in the West. I also think the more deeper thinking guy often gains more success (even if not at first if he perseveres) than guys whining think deeply although sometimes random chance might occasionally occur.

I don't think that's to say that a guy who has trouble dating in the West can't be successful in the FSU, it's a way easier dating game. A lot can depend on how two people match up though, attraction and the relative value of a guy (including characteristics, flaws, etc).

Dating for many a man in the Western World can be tough, it's not a easy going situation. A lot of women have set standards of what they will accept as a man. The more higher value a woman is usually the much higher standard of man she wants even if it's pretty unrealistic and/or unlikely to happen. So some men that might fall just a bit short in the Western World with women may be a good deal for a FSW. However then of course there are guys that fall way shorter and may struggle to land a FSW long term even when they eventually get the FSU dating game.

Dating a FSW can be a pretty steep learning curve as dating out of ones culture takes some learning and I have found it takes a fair bit of learning sometimes and there are no guarantees of it working out of course.