The Perfect Age Gap

[Trenchcoat]

Ok, I've had a revelation here so time for forum members to wet their panties with glee

I'm going to suggest what I think is the perfect age gap for men & women anyway in this world.

Firstly, I think woven in their teens to early twenties should date around their own age for fun. Then by the time they are in their mid twenties (23/24/25 years old plus) they should be looking for a long term relationship with an older man. Probably roughly around a 10-15 year age gap, now that may sound like a lot but I reckon it would balance out right. The man would probably have a decent amount of wealth/income that the women tend to like by then. The man would have a younger women than men tend to like and when she gets near her forties & fifties the man won't feel like he is with an old bag and want to upgrade to a younger model. He'll be much older so in comparison won't feel like a raw deal for him.

[krimster2]

some truth in those words....

you're starting to emerge from your slumber
but...focus yur attention on yur self...
cuz that's always where the most work is needed
surely, you're starting to see that...

[ML]

Then by the time they are in their mid twenties (23/24/25 years old plus) they should be looking for a long term relationship with an older man. Probably roughly around a 10-15 year age gap, now that may sound like a lot but I reckon it would balance out right. The man would probably have a decent amount of wealth/income that the women tend to like by then. The man would have a younger women than men tend to like and when she gets near her forties & fifties the man won't feel like he is with an old bag and want to upgrade to a younger model. He'll be much older so in comparison won't feel like a raw deal for him.

Big flaw in this plan is it leaves the women widows for a large number of years.
Hard for them to find suitabe mates at that time.

Of course this plan is what many of we men here are doing . . . but not ideal for the women, except they are mostly doing the best thing (all things considered for themselves and their families) when they match up with us.

[krimster2]

yeah, I talked about this with my wife, in case The Fox News host who runs Trump's military, orders shooting protesters

she claims she could never find such a perfect man as me.....
so she's not gonna even try
however, such flattery was not sincere

i've spent my whole time with my wife, teaching her, like I did with my kids
she'll be just fine on her own

I'm sure you did the same, ML
let go of all yur anxiety

tell her to look on the bright side, she will never again have to clean yur dirty undewear
once she realizes that, I think her emotions will "even out"
be careful, Russian wimmin will use yur old undewear as a cleaning cloth
so she may leave it some where where a visitor would see yur dirty old underwear (with faded "skid mark")
so ya gotta watch them Russians

[2tallbill]

some truth in those words....

you're starting to emerge from your slumber
but...focus yur attention on yur self...
cuz that's always where the most work is needed
surely, you're starting to see that...

Totally agree. For a man, it's almost always time to work on yourself. You can
always improve on something that will make yourself more successful

[Trenchcoat]

Totally agree. For a man, it's almost always time to work on yourself. You can
always improve on something that will make yourself more successful

I agree, even if you find and get with a FSW or probably any woman it's probably best to still keep self-improving. My impression is that men that don't or even drift backwards are perhaps more likely the ones that end up with the woman playing away or she divorces him. A man that self improves will probably help to keep away other men from her as she'll look at the other men and see that they are not as good rather than being tempted by them as something better.

[krimster2]

the perfect age gap - is the biggest one you can get!!!
and don't forget to check the condition of the teeth

[ML]

The teeth idea is a good one.

I knew my now wife had some 'weak' teeth, but I didn't know the extent.

Found out later to the tune of over $15,000 and still not done.

[ML]

I did try to keep in shape with my now current wife.  I wasn't happy lifting the weights, etc., but when I got tired I would always remind myself . . . you wanted a hot younger chick . . . so now pay for it.

Actually we both lifted weights every other day, and walked for an hour the other days and did pilates on Sundays.

This all stopped when she started the PhD program as she was overwhelmed, and I can't  do exercising by myself.

Now we are both very much out of shape (me moreso).

[krimster2]

a deficit of dentistry in the FSU
will need to be compensated for here

i've had more time, I'm probably past the $25,000 mark, that's just teeth
a facelift is almost the same price in Houston
and that's just for the facelift, all the other procedures are extra on top of that

beauty is an illusion that is expensive and laborious to maintain
that's why women ain't gonna throw it away on some nebbish like BeeFarmer
pearls before swine, much?

yes, I resemble a swinehund
who sniffs for truffles
you ever have truffles prepared by a French Chef
if you did, you'd be sniffin the ground for em to

[olgac]

My husband was in top physical shape when we met. He grew up doing backpacking rock and alpine climbing in Sierras and was heavily into rockclimbing when we met.
But after about 8 years he kind of stopped doing much but stayed skinny mostly because he is half asian and just has a slim build.
He also started having quite a few medical problems, but honestly this did not make any difference for me because by that time
he was part of me. Our age difference isn't too bad: 9 years.
We will celebrate 25 year wedding anniversary next week. WIll post photos

[krimster2]

it don't matter if you is a "lagushka" if you can get the princess to kiss ya
then you is a prince!!!
arise sir knight

slovo te mamichka

[2tallbill]

a deficit of dentistry in the FSU

i've had more time, I'm probably past the $25,000 mark, that's just teeth

I have spent a ton of money on Dental work. The old Soviet work was horrible.
She waited too long and some bone has disappeared requiring bone grafts and
other complicated and expensive procedures.

[2tallbill]

Firstly, I think woven in their teens to early twenties should date around their own age for fun. Then by the time they are in their mid twenties (23/24/25 years old plus) they should be looking for a long term relationship with an older man. Probably roughly around a 10-15 year age gap, now that may sound like a lot but I reckon it would balance out right.

This means you are chasing 23-25 year old women. You are over 40 but rounded your age down.
The problem with this is that you will find a lot of women with dubious goals. Unless you are
very good at reading people, you can find it difficult to see what they might be attempting to
do.

Udachi!

Bill

[ML]

One Ukrainian gal I spent some time with had fairly discolored teeth only on one side. 

It was somewhat of a turn off, but she was great a sex, so I spent a good amount of time with her.

I never mentioned her teeth, but after some days she said to me that her teeth were discolored by the Chernobyl incident.

I never followed up on it . . . but is that a thing ?

- - - - - - - -

I spent some time in Kyiv with another gal who was from Siberia.
She had married a young guy from Kyiv who had been sent as a teenager to Siberia by his parents at the time of Chernobyl.
They were worried about his health, reproductive capability, etc.
Later, they came to Kyiv to live and had a son, but were divorced shortly thereafter.

[olgac]

mid twenties (23/24/25 years old plus) they should be looking for a long term relationship with an older man. Probably roughly around a 10-15 year age gap, now that may sound like a lot but I reckon it would balance out right.

On the other hand women live longer than men on average. Go to any assisted living or nursing home and you will see 90% women.
All these women were once happily married to probably older men. Then during the hardest time of their lives they are completely
alone, kids usually live in different cities. If you marry a man 10 years older you are likely to live 20 years alone after his death.
In my case I am almost certain this will happen.

My own grandfather died when my grandma was 60. She lived until she was 103. She went to marry 2 more men and they both died before she did. Her last husband was 76 and she was 83 when they met. They were together for 13 years until he too died.

So if You think about it this way, how much sense does it make for a 25 year old woman to marry a 40 year old man? Not much in reality. At her most vulnerable time of life she will be left alone for 20+ years! This is after she helps her husband during his most vulnerable time and watches him die.

[olgac]

oops posted twice

[2tallbill]

On the other hand women live longer than men on average. Go to any assisted living or nursing home and you will see 90% women.
All these women were once happily married to probably older men. Then during the hardest time of their lives they are completely
alone, kids usually live in different cities. If you marry a man 10 years older you are likely to live 20 years alone after his death.
In my case I am almost certain this will happen.

23-25 year old women don't think about the time when they are 70 years old.
They think more about safety, security, a good partner and father. Humans are
one of the few animals on Earth where females live long past fertility. This is all
hardwired into our brains and good for humans because a Grandmother can
watch/teach and care for the young for many years past her fertility.

Grandmothers are more valuable for a caveman tribe than Grandfathers are.
That's probably why they live longer.

BUT Trench started this thread to wanting to justify pursuing 
23-25 year old women. These are not caveman times. He will get his kidneys
sold, if he doesn't raise the age he pursues. My advice for him would be his age
minus 5 years. 38-40 year FSUW will settle a bit more for a guy who genuinely
loves them (in my opinion).

NOTE: I've dated young girls when I first became single. However, I have
very high interpersonal skills, had money, was tall, handsome and didn't look as
old back then.

Once I got serious, I quit doing a lot of unproductive things. Pursuing young girls
was on top of the list of things I stopped doing.

[ML]

On the other hand women live longer than men on average. Go to any assisted living or nursing home and you will see 90% women.
All these women were once happily married to probably older men. Then during the hardest time of their lives they are completely
alone, kids usually live in different cities. If you marry a man 10 years older you are likely to live 20 years alone after his death.
In my case I am almost certain this will happen.

My own grandfather died when my grandma was 60. She lived until she was 103. She went to marry 2 more men and they both died before she did. Her last husband was 76 and she was 83 when they met. They were together for 13 years until he too died.

So if You think about it this way, how much sense does it make for a 25 year old woman to marry a 40 year old man? Not much in reality. At her most vulnerable time of life she will be left alone for 20+ years! This is after she helps her husband during his most vulnerable time and watches him die.

Olga, you are absolutely right.

I think about this more and more, and feel somewhat guilty concerning it.
I have even said to my Ukrainian wife that it was probably not good of me to marry her given our age difference.
But she reminded me that she was the one who came to USA on her own on a student visa, and actually pursued me.  (A long story told elsewhere here).
Said she had no regrets at all, and that her life with me had been filled with many good times that she would not have otherwise achieved.

But still, she is likely to live 20 or more years without me.

[olgac]

Don't feel guilty because You have given her a lot too: a financial security, a citizenship, support while she got her degree etc.
It is not so bad to live alone either if you own Your own house and can afford a caretaker or go into a nice assisted living
where You have a nice apartment with a kitchen but also they cook and clean for You and do laundry.
I have visited several when my dad was diagnosed with alzeimers and I could see myself living in one - no problem!

I am just saying that for an american or a western lady who is already financially secure marrying someone 10-15 years
older than her like Trench is saying, makes absolutely no sense unless he is drastically improving her lifestyle!

[krimster2]

an improvemnt in material things ain't the only thing a woman gets by living here
malchiky are on top in Russia, not women for many reasons

reverse roles here

big difference

this is why you recruit whatever open positions you have in yur organisation from Russia, instead of America
much more compliant labor force

ML...white boy p-leeze
yur wife bein Ukrainian, likely has 10X the survival instincts you have
the cemetary is full of men who thought they were indispensible and the world would't be able to continue without them
guess what...

yur wife will marry some other dewd, and all yur stuff's gonna belong to him
YOU have nothin to worry about, and neither does she
you just have anxiety about dying, that's all, we all go through this

OK?

[Grumpy]

Older women make better lovers.....
Keep a dish handy for their teeth.

[ML]

Older women make better lovers.....
Keep a dish handy for their teeth.

I can't imagine what this means !

[olgac]

I recently saw a youtube video of a 30 year old woman who lost all her teeth, wore dentures until she got implants!
Apparently she didnt take good care of her teeth and during pregnancy they got destroyed because she was throwing up all the time and did not brush afterwards.

I remember when I was pregnant the taste of toothpaste made me want to throw up first 4 month.
I brushed without paste during that time. I tried everything: like toothpastes for children, natural toothpaste, Tom's of Maine strawberry flavor  etc.
Nothing helped!

[krimster2]

youth and beauty ride together
and are in great demand from the "old and ugly"
but beware of the rose's thorns, you might be better off with a bean plant

remember how much fun it was planting a lima bean seed when you was a little kid
a cup full of dirt
and the expectation of it growing and watching it progress
and how sad you was when it died

One generation goeth, and another generation cometh
tis better to have lived and died
than never to have lived at al
just for that brief 'moment' in the sun
cuz that moment is all yur gonna get
this was one of my first lessons in life
and why I stopped goin to Sunday School to become a Christian cuz my parents wanted me to

Santa Claus
Easter Bunny
tooth fairy

and now Jesus? are ya kiddin me...really....
you think i'm still gonna fall for that "invisble magic friend" stuff after all the other times you tricked me?
ain't NO WAY

have yur invisible magic friend show himself and then we'll talk....
50 years later, and I STILL ain't seen him