What Jacket to buy?

[Trenchcoat]

good choice, but forget about Ukraine right now...
stay local, look at the BIGGEST local city closest to you
this is your trolling ground
learn how you advertise yourself there...

make an offer of refuge to a "house cleaner" give her room and board, for doing what she'd be doing anyway...
filter the results, talk on instagram,etc to check them out
take the hottest looking one
if you started today, you should be driving to her old apartment by the end of next month to pick her up

Thanks Krim Yeah I thought it seemed a good choice, would have to check it out to see it looks alright in store though. I know Ukraine is a problem at the moment as it's unsure if it might get closed off again or a big problem with the virus arise/be exposed.

I think things are going to get bad here in the near future with all the job loss announcements mounting up. I will have to think about what to do given the whole situation.

[BillyB]

Here's a guy dressed sharp and still lost the girl to another guy.

[Trenchcoat]

Here's a guy dressed sharp and still lost the girl to another guy.

I know, I could get the jacket but still not get the girl, I get what people are trying to say with that, that it's more than just about a jacket. I was just interested as sometimes getting a look in, in the first place can mean making a good first impression.

[2tallbill]

I know, I could get the jacket but still not get the girl, I get what people are trying to say with that, that it's more than just about a jacket. I was just interested as sometimes getting a look in, in the first place can mean making a good first impression.

Go to a thrift store and buy your jacket. If you shop hard you can
find one that doesn't look too bad. Here's the trick wear it several
days and don't clean it. Then go back to the shop and donate it
back to them. They will clean it and put it back on the rack.

You can buy it back cheaper than you can get it cleaned!

You intend to buy a girl a cubic zirconia ring (and not tell her).
You need to find a girl who will like the real Trench. Even the
dullest girl will figure you out, so why not just show the real
you?

[Boethius]

Italian suits only look good on very slim men. 


Having one good jacket isn't going to exactly knock down doors.



This post was composed without the aid of google.

[msmob]

Trench, I want to point out that you unite folk on here like nothing else)

[Trenchcoat]

Trench, I want to point out that you unite folk on here like nothing else)

Ah, I'm a force for unity unlike our irrepressible Oirishman

[Trenchcoat]

Go to a thrift store and buy your jacket. If you shop hard you can
find one that doesn't look too bad. Here's the trick wear it several
days and don't clean it. Then go back to the shop and donate it
back to them. They will clean it and put it back on the rack.

You can buy it back cheaper than you can get it cleaned!

You intend to buy a girl a cubic zirconia ring (and not tell her).
You need to find a girl who will like the real Trench. Even the
dullest girl will figure you out, so why not just show the real
you?

Lol, that is funny Bill. Apparently some truth to it though, I've heard that if you go to one of these thrift stores and know what to look for you can pick yourself up a £1k suit secondhand for £/$60-80. Whether it looks nice/would suit me and fit right may be another matter though. I think I would generally prefer to pick what I like from new.

[Trenchcoat]

Italian suits only look good on very slim men. 


Having one good jacket isn't going to exactly knock down doors.



This post was composed without the aid of google.

According to Krim women in Ukraine will really take note at that will be a good thing. I've heard that women in Ukraine take all this clothes fashion stuff real seriously from other sources too. Elena Petrova has said similar and so did the landlady of the apartment where I stayed with Kherson girl. No doubt there are a few western women that are that way also but probably not as numerous as in Ukraine.

You may have a point with the Armani though, I am a 6ft average sized guy, not real wide or anything but I'm no Ethiopian or Chinese guy either. All the way up to my late teens/early twenties I was quite skinny.

I would have to look at how it would look on me in store I may get away with it, would have to see. If not I may have to go for a Hugo Boss, go out looking like a German Panzer tank That or get an original SS storm trooper jacket! Now I'm sure that would certainly make an impression in Ukraine.

All this talk of being slim reminds me of when Hollister refused to do plus sizes for fat girls, lol.. that was pretty funny at the time

[msmob]

Trench,

What you glean from 'reading what UA women think, seems to suggest you may be reading dubious sources....

IF you are serious about meeting a women, you'd wear what you'd wear on a date, anywhere.

Buying a special jacket....?

[Trenchcoat]

Trench,

What you glean from 'reading what UA women think, seems to suggest you may be reading dubious sources....

IF you are serious about meeting a women, you'd wear what you'd wear on a date, anywhere.

Buying a special jacket....?

I get the point that the chemistry is either there or it isn't. That is what I originally thought but on considering the view of the above I have come to realise there may be reason to consider what I wear more closely.

I've seen it in the UK that even if there is chemistry with a girl that is just one step, an important one but just one step. Here there is A LOT more competition for a girl. A girl could feel chemistry for numerous guys along the way so she has a choice, the less a guy impresses the less likely she will go/stick with him.

In the FSU we are asking for a girl to leave behind anything she has there (assuming there is anything) and go with the guy. Most of the girls on dating sites are generally after guys that look the real deal, especially the prettier girls. To look a serious prospect the guy needs to impress and look the part.

All I'm saying is that the more a guy can impress from the outset the easier time a guy may have at it. After all the girl might otherwise just go for a local guy. It has often been said on here before the importance of a guy as a western guy standing apart from the local competition. When I was in Kiev that competition I saw was not that badly dressed, the guys there were in fact quite well dressed though they probably were wearing Turkish or Chinese stuff.

[msmob]

Trench, dressing smart, is fine, but you need to impress her with your character....and your online persona / posts about what YOU think will pull has hardly 'worked'....

[Trenchcoat]

good choice, but forget about Ukraine right now...

Indeed, but if I was in Ukraine dressed exactly how that guy is dressed how do you think it would go down?

http://www.armani.com/gb/armanicom/emporio-armani/single-breasted-jacket-in-light-wool-seersucker_cod41959331or.html#dept=saleseason

Bearing in mind I'm kind of everyday looking so not exactly like the model type they have in the photo. Though I do have a full head of brown hair and am 6ft tall and not particularly wide/fat or anything, so build not too dissimilar to that guy I guess.

[krimster2]

Trench....

look at all the things women do JUST with their boobs to get attention
cleavage, side boobs, nipple outline....

to get a woman’s attention, is just the flip side of how they get yours
you want to look like a successful, strong man...
when I was your age, I wore these custom tailored inexpensive Ban-Lon sports shirts
they were made to be tight fitting to show off my v-shaped build
and the length of the sleeve was shortened because
I had a very powerful upper body build with large biceps
and with just the right amount displayed, plus wide open collar,
100% of women walking by me would “check me out”
then I could do this stretching move that raised my shirt up a bit to show my abs and then I watch their jaws drop...

but, that’s just the “hook”
after you hook a fish, ya gotta “reel em in”
that’s where CHARM comes to play...
I know how to sweet talk them, until they are quite literally eating out of my hand...
THEN, I plant the idea of sex in their head
and THEY know what to do next....

it’s that easy Trench

BTW, if you have dark hair, go with black or dark gray
some day I am going to wear my father's White Panama suit from the 1940s in Russia and see what kind of reaction I'll get
probably just a buncha samichkee sellin baboshka's will be chasin after me then
but some of 'em ain't too ba.... nahhhhh, nevermind

[Trenchcoat]

when I was your age, I wore these custom tailored inexpensive Ban-Lon sports shirts
they were made to be tight fitting to show off my v-shaped build
and the length of the sleeve was shortened because
I had a very powerful upper body build with large biceps
and with just the right amount displayed, plus wide open collar,
100% of women walking by me would “check me out”
then I could do this stretching move that raised my shirt up a bit to show my abs and then I watch their jaws drop...

What did you do to work out to be in such good shape?

[krimster2]

Trench, back in the late 80s and 90s I had a REAL interesting job...
I was FAA and FCC certified to do the FAA legally required yearly Airport Radar Calibration and Certification Procedure nation wide...
this job was mainly seasonal, but because almost everyone else was 20 years or more older than me
none of THEM wanted to climb the radar towers
so not only did I make $150 hour performing repair and calibration of Radar LNA amplifiers that are part of the antenna
I had also developed incredible upper and lower body strength from climbing and hauling equipment thousands of tower feet per month
I became massively strong


Trench,
you want to awaken a woman’s sexual instinct towards you?

you FIRST do it it visually...
by showing her a handsome, powerful, strong, successful, prosperous MAN...
then when her curiosity causes her to come closer to you...
then, you CHARM her.....

you are funny, intelligent, well traveled, and obviously to her, wealthy AND a foreigner!
and that makes you someone REALLY unique, unlike anyone else she has EVER met...
highly exotic...
what’s it feel like to you when you meet a good lookin exotic woman?
seriously guys, you totally underestimate your value IF you “play your cards right” in Russia
imagine you are some poor dumb phuque redneck somewhere
and then one day you’re out walking to the market, and you see a tall Swedish Bikini Model
that’s the kinda power you CAN have, IF you have the look in Russia
I know this for a 100% fact, OK...

then...
all ya gotta do is go have fun with her!!!

the second time I met my wife, it was in the winter...
and I took her to this big outdoor market and I bought a sled
I put it in the back of the trunk of the car and drove to the biggest hill in Kyiv
on a street called Hrushevskoho Street
and we went sledding all the way down that hill we must’ve been doing 40 mph
it was almost suicidal, we went airborn a couple of times

by the end of the day, we both accidentally ended up getting drenched in water
completely soaked in the dead of winter in Kyiv...
we quickly drove back to the house I was staying at
which fortunately had an old fireplace
my then girlfriend had the fire going in no time and then the next thing she did
she stripped me completely naked from my wet clothes
and made me stand next to the fire
then she did the same

then she started “looking at my you-know-what” out of the corner of her eye
and then I realized she deliberately made us crash in the lake
just so we’d be doing this!!

my wife was the only woman who ever played ME like that
and so she got to see my junk at the same time that I saw hers
first woman who ever did that to me in Ukraine
and weird that I ended up marrying her
but I'm sure it's not coincidental



 

[Trenchcoat]

Trench, back in the late 80s and 90s I had a REAL interesting job...
I was FAA and FCC certified to do the FAA legally required yearly Airport Radar Calibration and Certification Procedure nation wide...
this job was mainly seasonal, but because almost everyone else was 20 years or more older than me
none of THEM wanted to climb the radar towers
so not only did I make $150 hour performing repair and calibration of Radar LNA amplifiers that are part of the antenna
I had also developed incredible upper and lower body strength from climbing and hauling equipment thousands of tower feet per month
I became massively strong


Trench,
you want to awaken a woman’s sexual instinct towards you?

you FIRST do it it visually...
by showing her a handsome, powerful, strong, successful, prosperous MAN...
then when her curiosity causes her to come closer to you...
then, you CHARM her.....

you are funny, intelligent, well traveled, and obviously to her, wealthy AND a foreigner!
and that makes you someone REALLY unique, unlike anyone else she has EVER met...
highly exotic...
what’s it feel like to you when you meet a good lookin exotic woman?
seriously guys, you totally underestimate your value IF you “play your cards right” in Russia
imagine you are some poor dumb phuque redneck somewhere
and then one day you’re out walking to the market, and you see a tall Swedish Bikini Model
that’s the kinda power you CAN have, IF you have the look in Russia
I know this for a 100% fact, OK...

then...
all ya gotta do is go have fun with her!!!

Thanks Krim Yep I see what I am doing wrong now. Though I generally like the stuff Kherson girl picked out for me I see that wearing it in Ukraine on subsequent trips was probably a mistake. I didn't wear it all the time of course but instead I should have worn some more higher end smart western clothing to stand out from the locals but in a good way.

I think having a job where you were able to exercise heavily is a good thing. It sounds like that job you had with the radar stations was perfect as it allowed you to exercise the upper body a lot which of course is what gets noticed the most. Unfortunately most jobs these days are ones sat down doing office stuff which is the worst for exercise really. I get to move around a bit in my job but it's still mostly at the desk and the exercise is never the upper body stuff that I need. I getting around to using my home gym stuff but I think I would probably be best trying to find a way of bringing upper body exercise into my everyday routine somehow.

I most appreciate your help Krim, that was a really good post. It helps to show how combining dress, physic, success and fun can turn into a winning combination with a girl

[krimster2]

Trench, me bruv...
you’ve been living your life in a hole man...figure out how climb outta that hole
and go and live your life

keep trying, and don't worry,
there's no such thing as failure
only LEARNING how to succeed from mistakes
each effort, takes you a little closer to where you want to be...
until you can finally reach out and seize your destiny

[Trenchcoat]

Trench, me bruv...
you’ve been living your life in a hole man...figure out how climb outta that hole
and go and live your life

keep trying, and don't worry,
there's no such thing as failure
only LEARNING how to succeed from mistakes
each effort, takes you a little closer to where you want to be...
until you can finally reach out and seize your destiny

Thanks Krim, yeah I have realised from what you have been saying that I really need to broaden out stuff I do. In the past I have tended to focus a lot just on one interest at a time but now I see that I would be better off finding many interests or life can end up a bit dull. I have some ideas on what I would like to do in the near future. Converting my house is nearing the end thank goodness, it's taken a lot longer than I had hoped for but once done should free me up a lot more. I should be done on it before Christmas and then have a lot more time free to develop my life in a more interesting way and develop myself by improving in different aspects of myself

[BC]

A lot of what others have described as being self-confident, able to assert oneself is not about changing anything or trying to be something else.  It is more about learning to accept what we are and learn to use even few good qualities we already have to their full potential.

Silicone and Botox or sexy outfit rarely make a woman more than momentarily attractive IMO.   Often, I have found unusual physical features, or even defects much more attractive than perfection.  All depends on how she carries herself and comes across when she starts talking.

[Trenchcoat]

A lot of what others have described as being self-confident, able to assert oneself is not about changing anything or trying to be something else.  It is more about learning to accept what we are and learn to use even few good qualities we already have to their full potential.

Silicone and Botox or sexy outfit rarely make a woman more than momentarily attractive IMO.   Often, I have found unusual physical features, or even defects much more attractive than perfection.  All depends on how she carries herself and comes across when she starts talking.

I find such curious but not attractive, curious enough to look long enough to observe the strangeness of such that it might be mistaken as the similar length of time someone might look as if they were attractive.

I find it a cliche when people bang on about its how someone being confident with yourself, bla, bla, bla. The way someone comes across is generally defined by their genes. Beyond that it is defined by the choices they make in life contributing to how they come across. After that there is behaviour that can be learned or decided upon. A person being confident when they don't come across well won't make any difference.

We must also remember we are talking about women here and not just people in general. Women are drawn by certain aspects of men just as men are drawn by certain aspects of women. Women crave guys with bulging biceps and toned and, guys crave women who are pretty looking facially. Now you can't say that pretty women don't get far more men interested in them than ugly or fat girls? Or do you really see guys craving after fat or ugly girls that are confident, lol.

[GQBlues]

I find such curious but not attractive, curious enough to look long enough to observe the strangeness of such that it might be mistaken as the similar length of time someone might look as if they were attractive.

I find it a cliche when people bang on about its how someone being confident with yourself, bla, bla, bla. The way someone comes across is generally defined by their genes. Beyond that it is defined by the choices they make in life contributing to how they come across. After that there is behaviour that can be learned or decided upon. A person being confident when they don't come across well won't make any difference.

We must also remember we are talking about women here and not just people in general. Women are drawn by certain aspects of men just as men are drawn by certain aspects of women. Women crave guys with bulging biceps and toned and, guys crave women who are pretty looking facially. Now you can't say that pretty women don't get far more men interested in them than ugly or fat girls? Or do you really see guys craving after fat or ugly girls that are confident, lol.

If you feel so right about what you speak - why are things so wrong for you at present?

[Trenchcoat]

If you feel so right about what you speak - why are things so wrong for you at present?

I need to work on some stuff so I can get to where I need to be. Some stuff I have done, some stuff I am doing and other stuff I am going to do. Once there I should be in a better position.

[msmob]

Trench,

You were advised to socialise more over a year ago...

Still with the 'excuses' and crap 'fating advice'

[Trenchcoat]

Trench,

You were advised to socialise more over a year ago...

Still with the 'excuses' and crap 'fating advice'

I'm not talking about socialising, I'm talking about other aspects. I'm talking about the stuff has been talking about above, getting in shape, looking good, doing more activities, and other stuff. As soon as I finish my house conversion I'll be making a move on that stuff.