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Title: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 22, 2019, 02:12:43 AM
This is a topic I think is worthy of discussion. If you consider the impact the recent visa free regime from Ukraine to the EU is having already on dating in Ukraine, it potentially threatens our lovely FSU Dating World as far as fairly near travel to a visa free FSU country where you can also date easily. Now of course if the EU came under pressure as it might do through a full Brexit situation, reduced funding and labour supply/demand upset then this situation might be reversed.

Better still, envisage a virtually complete collapse of the EU. It's possible! The EU is spending beyond its means and many countries in Europe are getting fed up with it from Hungary to Italy, to France & the Netherlands. Think how it would be if Eastern Europe again was cut adrift from Western Europe. Places like Poland and the rest of the Eastern Bloc could become viable again for dating with greater ease than at present :) Once again girls in these countries would be grateful to meet WM online. The EU has disrupted the natural flow of how the former Eastern Bloc should be and made it a place where only the most ardent sex tourist might try he's luck. Now they are messing up our fun in Ukraine. Is there no stopping the upset the EU seeks to inflict? I certainly can't but help think we would be a lot better of FSU Dating if it broke apart. Any others on here feel the same?
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: John Gaunt on March 22, 2019, 04:18:56 AM
😂😂😂
Now Trench is blaming the EU for his lack of success in Ukraine.

 :deadhorse:
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 22, 2019, 05:27:25 AM
As the UK and Ireland are not part of the  visa free regime for  Ukrainians

Another Trench fail

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 22, 2019, 06:43:08 AM
As the UK and Ireland are not part of the  visa free regime for  Ukrainians

Another Trench fail

I know that, I was talking about their access to the rest of the EU. I do think though that for both the UK and western Europe in general being exclusive is not a bad thing at least where East Europeans are concerned. Full Brexit will hopefully bring that back to the UK.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 22, 2019, 06:46:09 AM
😂😂😂
Now Trench is blaming the EU for his lack of success in Ukraine.

 :deadhorse:

It's not about me as such or any lack of success on my part. It's a reasonable discussion of where we all could be in FSU Dating environment were in not for the EU.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 22, 2019, 07:01:21 AM
It's not about me as such or any lack of success on my part. It's a reasonable discussion of where we all could be in FSU Dating environment were in not for the EU.

What is 'reasonable' about  your suggestion for a topic based on bollox pretexts ?

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: John Gaunt on March 22, 2019, 07:14:34 AM
It's not about me as such or any lack of success on my part. It's a reasonable discussion of where we all could be in FSU Dating environment were in not for the EU.
It is very much about how you perceive access by Ukrainians to the EU disadvantaging you by levelling the playing field to remove any economic advantage you think you have over those ‘poor’ Ukrainian women.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 22, 2019, 07:27:29 AM
Trench only goes to visit gals  who will be grateful from Dumpsville and then worries what will happen when they see his pad ?

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 22, 2019, 12:52:30 PM
 Brits beware you need a different driving licence in Ukraine on the 28 March.  Luckily I will be back  before my 1946 licence is no good an I need a 1968 one
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 22, 2019, 01:16:09 PM
Brits beware you need a different driving licence in Ukraine on the 28 March.  Luckily I will be back  before my 1946 licence is no good an I need a 1968 one

Why?

You STILL think we are leaving on March 29th....

All you will need is an IDL and certainly not yet    if ever...

You had better stick to the nest...your head is not functioning
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: lyndontom on March 22, 2019, 01:22:14 PM
Once again girls in these countries would be grateful to meet WM online. The EU has disrupted the natural flow of how the former Eastern Bloc should be and made it a place where only the most ardent sex tourist might try he's luck. Now they are messing up our fun in Ukraine. Is there no stopping the upset the EU seeks to inflict? I certainly can't but help think we would be a lot better of FSU Dating if it broke apart. Any others on here feel the same?


Dear me, you are the epitome of desperation. When will you stop posting such drivel and do something more constructive with your time?
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 22, 2019, 01:34:25 PM
So the UK gov site is incorrect that we need to change from 1949 to 1968 driving licence.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 23, 2019, 12:27:13 AM
James. What ARE you writing about?

UK= United Kingdom

UA= Ukraine..

This is a (  daft)  thread about dating would change if the EU didn't exist..

Has Trench been to the FSU Baltic States to TRY to date...?

Poland was not in the USSR..

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 23, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
I'm writing about the grey cardboard driving licence that must be carried in addition to the plastic card.  It used to be the 1949 version now it has to be the 1968 version.  The plastic card only ever covered you for Europe.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 23, 2019, 03:45:09 AM
Sorry ,

Still lost as to which country you are referring to and it's relevance ?! )
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: John Gaunt on March 23, 2019, 10:53:06 AM
I'm writing about the grey cardboard driving licence that must be carried in addition to the plastic card.  It used to be the 1949 version now it has to be the 1968 version.  The plastic card only ever covered you for Europe.
You are talking about the International driving Permit issued under the 1968 Vienna Convention required for UK license holders to drive in Ukraine.

Let’s get back to Trench’s stupidity.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 23, 2019, 11:57:10 PM
Well hat's cleared up.

Thank you JG

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: BC on March 24, 2019, 03:34:26 AM
Let’s get back to Trench’s stupidity.

Hmm.. waiting until EU breaks up and/or some economic disaster so women will be desperate enough to line up at his flat, beating down the door to fight for a position on his worn out couch.
 
Indeed, utter stupidity, but yeah Trench.. go for it.  At least we'll know womankind will be safe for some time to come.

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 24, 2019, 06:10:36 AM
Hmm.. waiting until EU breaks up and/or some economic disaster so women will be desperate enough to line up at his flat, beating down the door to fight for a position on his worn out couch.
 
Indeed, utter stupidity, but yeah Trench.. go for it.  At least we'll know womankind will be safe for some time to come.

No I'm just saying the same situation would exist in Poland as in Ukraine as once it did before they joined the EU. Just think about it he wide variety of choice that would exist. Let's face it although it's not going to make every woman contemplate International Dating it's the state of their situation is the prod some women need to consider alternatives.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: John Gaunt on March 24, 2019, 07:17:34 AM
No I'm just saying the same situation would exist in Poland as in Ukraine as once it did before they joined the EU. Just think about it he wide variety of choice that would exist. Let's face it although it's not going to make every woman contemplate International Dating it's the state of their situation is the prod some women need to consider alternatives.
No, it wouldn’t.
There was never an active international dating scene in Poland pre joining the EU.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: lyndontom on March 24, 2019, 08:21:38 AM
No I'm just saying the same situation would exist in Poland as in Ukraine as once it did before they joined the EU. Just think about it he wide variety of choice that would exist. Let's face it although it's not going to make every woman contemplate International Dating it's the state of their situation is the prod some women need to consider alternatives.


Really, who cares? Who bases their whole life on ridiculous theories like this? If you really think that as things stand that there is no "wide variety of choice" where women are concerned, then you really do have issues. Are you so insecure that you know the only woman you can attract is a poor and desperate one?


Actually, don't answer that... :deadhorse:
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 24, 2019, 03:12:15 PM
No, it wouldn’t.
There was never an active international dating scene in Poland pre joining the EU.

Not so..

I started looking at FSU W in 2002 and there were Czech, Polish and Baltic States dedicated websites..with English language profiles..?

Poland joined in 2004

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Steamer on March 24, 2019, 05:46:57 PM
I certainly can't but help think we would be a lot better of FSU Dating if it broke apart. Any others on here feel the same?


I think that you would have a better chance of Russia going Soviet again.

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 25, 2019, 04:04:15 AM
Not so..

I started looking at FSU W in 2002 and there were Czech, Polish and Baltic States dedicated websites..with English language profiles..?

Poland joined in 2004

Mobers I'm actually proud of you, your first anti-EU post! :D Never thought I'lld see the day!

You see everyone, this is the point I was getting at, there would be a far greater variety of FSW available to us if the EU had not brought in the Eastern Bloc countries. Everyone, picture in your mind a nice svelte Polish girl or a beautiful Baltic States girl. Instead we end up all hurding into Ukraine, possibly Belarus or pay a lot of money in visas to Russia. Now one the UK leaves the EU (we hope) Polish people will once again be locked out of the UK which is where they tend to most flock we then have the start of a reversal of this situation.

Mobers we'll make a Brexiteer of you yet! ;D
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Boethius on March 25, 2019, 07:33:06 AM
OR you could just make yourself the type of man that is desirable.  Then you wouldn't have to rely on the poverty of tens of millions to seek a mate.

This post was composed without the aid of google.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 25, 2019, 08:29:17 AM
Mobers I'm actually proud of you, your first anti-EU post! :D Never thought I'lld see the day!

You see everyone, this is the point I was getting at, there would be a far greater variety of FSW available to us if the EU had not brought in the Eastern Bloc countries. Everyone, picture in your mind a nice svelte Polish girl or a beautiful Baltic States girl. Instead we end up all hurding into Ukraine, possibly Belarus or pay a lot of money in visas to Russia. Now one the UK leaves the EU (we hope) Polish people will once again be locked out of the UK which is where they tend to most flock we then have the start of a reversal of this situation.

Mobers we'll make a Brexiteer of you yet! ;D

Amazing how Trench's 'humour' works..

Once again, Poland has never been in the FSU

Some of us have dated women from Latvia / Lithuania / Estonia..

As for 'Brexit'.I am extremely confident you will not be happy and I can point out "I told you so"

If Mrs May tries to stop a people's vote on any deal...she will be gone..

The good news is that Corbyn has be proven a closet Brexiteer and just as ineffective))

Continue to entertain 'us' with your theories on dating and Brexit'..

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: John Gaunt on March 25, 2019, 10:06:05 AM
Not so..

I started looking at FSU W in 2002 and there were Czech, Polish and Baltic States dedicated websites..with English language profiles..?

Poland joined in 2004
You conveniently ignored the key word in my post.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 25, 2019, 01:40:06 PM
OR you could just make yourself the type of man that is desirable.  Then you wouldn't have to rely on the poverty of tens of millions to seek a mate.

This post was composed without the aid of google.

Oh please, our Mobers was doing that in the former Eastern Bloc nearly twenty years ago now :)

The way I see it is people are at advantages and disadvantages everywhere. It's the advantages and disadvantages dealing between each other that makes potentially good things happen.

I am at the disadvantage of being guy who is just average looking to most girls, hot to a few and not so to a few others, and not good social skills. They are girls stuck in a poor situation in a poor country, they don't get out unless they get with a WM. Now what WM us going to travel there except one with other disadvantages, it quid pro quo baby ;)
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Boethius on March 25, 2019, 02:48:37 PM
You can't get it through your head.  The problem is not British women.  It is not the lack of money in Ukraine.  It is you.  You are you wherever you go. 

Putting aside physical appearance, which is very subjective, you will still lack social skills if you manage to land a poor woman.  When you import her, she will see, very quickly, what your status is in your society, and if she has chosen you to escape poverty, rather than because she thinks you are the best thing since sliced bread, she will find someone else who gives her butterflies when he talks.  Or, she will be educated or settled on your dime, then leave you for the life she really wants.  So then, where, exactly, is your "quid pro quo"?

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Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 25, 2019, 06:03:08 PM
Trench fears a woman leaving him ..after his investing in her and thinks her having kids with him will help ensure she stays ))

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 01:36:29 AM
You can't get it through your head.  The problem is not British women.  It is not the lack of money in Ukraine.  It is you.  You are you wherever you go. 

Putting aside physical appearance, which is very subjective, you will still lack social skills if you manage to land a poor woman.  When you import her, she will see, very quickly, what your status is in your society, and if she has chosen you to escape poverty, rather than because she thinks you are the best thing since sliced bread, she will find someone else who gives her butterflies when he talks.  Or, she will be educated or settled on your dime, then leave you for the life she really wants.  So then, where, exactly, is your "quid pro quo"?

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I know I will need to find a girl that is into me, I can do that here and see girls that are but there is always competition, other guys the girl is into also. Boe, you need to understand how amazingly tough it is in the UK for a guy to get a girl. It often feels like you are competing with at least half a dozen guys when a girl shows interest even though apparently there are roughly 1 woman to 1 man in this country. That girl will then give you the run around until she decides on which one of the half dozen or so guys she wishes to date. Hence why I say I wish I was born a woman in this country, they are in a much, much better dating position than guys in this country, particularly the pretty ones.

Now I agree I can't go over to the FSU and get a girl on the basis of money or my passport, that will just lead to her going off. I again need to find a girl who is into me and decide on me before she comes to the UK. So long as I am already in a relationship with her and she is into me then that's the best place I can be.

All I am saying here is that the FSU and the Eastern Bloc countries if they were still outside the EU ensures a situation where women are motivated to look abroad for a guy. The men at home for one reason or another they see as unsuitable so they seek a better life with a foreign guy. They have to compete for the best men where they live and when they are all taken they look abroad. I'm just saying in this thread that it's all a question of which guy gets seen as  the best, the guy at home or abroad. If the EU makes more men better prospects in their home country by then these girls have no reason to look abroad. What I am saying is the EU artificially change this dynamic by doing up Eastern Europe with borrowed money and money from Western Europe in fees that Eastern Europe get given, in essence we are being robbed.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 26, 2019, 02:35:54 AM
Boe, you need to understand how amazingly tough it is in the UK for a guy to get a girl


Again and again you post that crap...

It is a giant whopper of a fib..

YOU are the issue..

Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 03:23:30 AM

Again and again you post that crap...

It is a giant whopper of a rib..

YOU are the issue..

So you tell me then, what is my issue with not being able to date women in the UK?
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Nightwish on March 26, 2019, 03:29:43 AM
So you tell me then, what is my issue with not being able to date women in the UK?

you are by your own admission, poor, socially awkward and undesirable with a misogynistic view on women.

and guess what, an FSUW will see you for exactly that as well..just give it a little time
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 26, 2019, 03:36:48 AM
So you tell me then, what is my issue with not being able to date women in the UK?

See above
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 04:44:37 AM
you are by your own admission, poor, socially awkward and undesirable with a misogynistic view on women.

and guess what, an FSUW will see you for exactly that as well..just give it a little time

I wouldn't say any in the extreme, I have my own house so compared to some not so poor. I would say I am not socially skilled but not socially awkward as such. With the right girl I think I could do ok, but in the UK the competition is a lot tougher than in Ukraine.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Nightwish on March 26, 2019, 04:48:31 AM
I wouldn't say any in the extreme, I have my own house so compared to some not so poor. I would say I am not socially skilled but not socially awkward as such. With the right girl I think I could do ok, but in the UK the competition is a lot tougher than in Ukraine.

complete and utter BS
The only advantage you have in Ukraine is your citizenship - and as soon you bring a girl to UK - you loose that advantage and she will leave you - unless you change
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 06:26:35 AM
complete and utter BS
The only advantage you have in Ukraine is your citizenship - and as soon you bring a girl to UK - you loose that advantage and she will leave you - unless you change

So what am I supposed to do?
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Nightwish on March 26, 2019, 06:35:27 AM
So what am I supposed to do?

probably ~5000 posts later made by various users telling you what to do, how to succeed.. and mainly how WRONG you are with how you are thinking now...and you ask that question?  did you have an epiphany?
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Boethius on March 26, 2019, 07:29:16 AM
I know I will need to find a girl that is into me, I can do that here and see girls that are but there is always competition, other guys the girl is into also. Boe, you need to understand how amazingly tough it is in the UK for a guy to get a girl. It often feels like you are competing with at least half a dozen guys when a girl shows interest even though apparently there are roughly 1 woman to 1 man in this country. That girl will then give you the run around until she decides on which one of the half dozen or so guys she wishes to date. Hence why I say I wish I was born a woman in this country, they are in a much, much better dating position than guys in this country, particularly the pretty ones.


I don't believe that.  Were it true, millions of UK men would be looking for women abroad, and they are not.  This is an excuse on your part.

Quote
All I am saying here is that the FSU and the Eastern Bloc countries if they were still outside the EU ensures a situation where women are motivated to look abroad for a guy. The men at home for one reason or another they see as unsuitable so they seek a better life with a foreign guy. They have to compete for the best men where they live and when they are all taken they look abroad. I'm just saying in this thread that it's all a question of which guy gets seen as  the best, the guy at home or abroad. If the EU makes more men better prospects in their home country by then these girls have no reason to look abroad. What I am saying is the EU artificially change this dynamic by doing up Eastern Europe with borrowed money and money from Western Europe in fees that Eastern Europe get given, in essence we are being robbed.


That is an exceptionally simplistic, and inaccurate assessment.


The women looking abroad because they seek a better lifestyle aren't looking for men like you.  Furthermore, they typically don't stay married to their mules.


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Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 10:40:25 AM

I don't believe that.  Were it true, millions of UK men would be looking for women abroad, and they are not.  This is an excuse on your part.


That is an exceptionally simplistic, and inaccurate assessment.


The women looking abroad because they seek a better lifestyle aren't looking for men like you.  Furthermore, they typically don't stay married to their mules.


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It's because most chose girls in the 8-10 looks category so they have more options to 'upgrade'. I'm looking more at the 5-7 category which don't especially if their English is not good. Even still I am looking for a girl in that category range where there is natural chemistry. I may not come out near the top for guys dating in the UK but on what I've just stated here I think I can hold my ground.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Boethius on March 26, 2019, 11:05:00 AM
You can think whatever you want.  Your strategy is flawed, partly because it doesn't take into account human emotions and desires.


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Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 26, 2019, 11:20:20 AM
It's because most chose girls in the 8-10 looks category so they have more options to 'upgrade'. I'm looking more at the 5-7 category which don't especially if their English is not good. Even still I am looking for a girl in that category range where there is natural chemistry. I may not come out near the top for guys dating in the UK but on what I've just stated here I think I can hold my ground.

Honestly, Trench, old son ..you re DELUDED

Your attitude sucks and until you get that 'upgraded' - you will be left making excuses

FACT: The guys that date and marry FSU women can 'pull' in the US, France, UK, 'Oz, etc.

YOU are one of those guys that thinks your passport will help ... more fool you ..They have plenty of guys with money they can date


Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 01:15:08 PM
You can think whatever you want.  Your strategy is flawed, partly because it doesn't take into account human emotions and desires.


This post was composed without the aid of google.

I can only feel human desire be emotion when with a girl. Until then I look at the big picture in a practical way from a distance. Now few that have any experience at this would dispute that there are insincere FSW involved in the game, or FSW you meet that you don't feel chemistry with on meeting, or girls with negative character traits, or girls that were unsuitable in some way, etc, etc. They are the practicalities of FSU dating and no doubt the women have practicalities when they view WM coming for FSU Dating. All I was doing here was bringing up another practicality yet it seems to have jarred with some members rather a lot. It was a discussion point out of interest.

Aside from this thread topic, until I get back over and meet some girls all I can do in the interim is work out the practicalities. I think I am  just about there and will play it as best I can. What I say on here and what happens when I'm with a girl can be two different things as I feel my way with a new girl. Anything else on this is probably more suitable for another thread. On this thread though I think I'll call it a day, I think discussion of the topic has gone as far as it's going to for the moment.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Boethius on March 26, 2019, 01:21:14 PM
The fact that you wish tens of millions of people would be reduced to poverty for your own selfish desires, and rather far fetched ones at that, is what posters object to, as any normal human being would.

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Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 01:43:48 PM
The fact that you wish tens of millions of people would be reduced to poverty for your own selfish desires, and rather far fetched ones at that, is what posters object to, as any normal human being would.

This post was composed without the aid of google.


It's not my fault that East European women make themselves so hot and tempting for me to make me want it so :devilish:
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Boethius on March 26, 2019, 01:44:59 PM
The solution is to make yourself hot and tempting, rather than wish ill for others for your own selfish desires.


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Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 02:07:41 PM
The solution is to make yourself hot and tempting, rather than wish ill for others for your own selfish desires.


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It's all the UK career girls & fat girls that make me feel this way :(
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Boethius on March 26, 2019, 02:11:13 PM
No, it's that you don't wish to improve yourself.   Not every UK girl is fat.  Not every UK woman is a career girl.  It's an excuse on your part. 


There is nothing wrong with seeking someone abroad.  But don't expect us to believe your lies, and really, you should not lie to yourself.


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Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 02:13:50 PM
No, it's that you don't wish to improve yourself.   Not every UK girl is fat.  Not every UK woman is a career girl.  It's an excuse on your part. 


There is nothing wrong with seeking someone abroad.  But don't expect us to believe your lies, and really, you should not lie to yourself.


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Ok, so how do I turn myself into a hot guy that women want. I'm ok on the looks front but I guess I'm lacking the film star looks. So what is your suggestion?
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: JayH on March 26, 2019, 02:31:05 PM
Ok, so how do I turn myself into a hot guy that women want. I'm ok on the looks front but I guess I'm lacking the film star looks. So what is your suggestion?

Several years ago I branded you a social misfit ----and I got castigated by some here for that.
Since then --and how many thousand posts by you has only confirmed my assessment that is now agreed to by a very large majority here.
Many have tried to help you -- but --you always have an excuse  and cannot be advised. Combined with you choosing to take crap "advice"  and run with it,still reading the likes of Roosh etc all show you are dimwitted.
probably ~5000 posts later made by various users telling you what to do, how to succeed.. and mainly how WRONG you are with how you are thinking now...and you ask that question?  did you have an epiphany?

Regardless of how blunt  & pointed the message is you proceed as if it was never there.
You are incapable of learning anything at all .

The other thing you persist with is to put a number on girls based on appearance -- have you ever considered  what your number actually is as a potential mate?
I  would not give you a half of 1% --  FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU HAVE WRITTEN YOURSELF -- THAT SHOWS HOW YOU THINK -- OR MORE ACCURATELY- HOW YOU DO NOT THINK !!

SO     -1  for you! ;D
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 02:47:57 PM
Several years ago I branded you a social misfit ----and I got castigated by some here for that.
Since then --and how many thousand posts by you has only confirmed my assessment that is now agreed to by a very large majority here.
Many have tried to help you -- but --you always have an excuse  and cannot be advised. Combined with you choosing to take crap "advice"  and run with it,still reading the likes of Roosh etc all show you are dimwitted.
Regardless of how blunt  & pointed the message is you proceed as if it was never there.
You are incapable of learning anything at all .

The other thing you persist with is to put a number on girls based on appearance -- have you ever considered  what your number actually is as a potential mate?
I  would not give you a half of 1% --  FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU HAVE WRITTEN YOURSELF -- THAT SHOWS HOW YOU THINK -- OR MORE ACCURATELY- HOW YOU DO NOT THINK !!

SO     -1  for you! ;D

And yet, you are still looking after all these years, so how do you rate?
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: JayH on March 26, 2019, 03:55:51 PM
And yet, you are still looking after all these years, so how do you rate?

Duh --   your response only serves to prove my point -   ie you never learn .


How many times have you responded like that to me? A dozen?  Plus the same type of answer to numerous others when their comments hit home.

You don't like being rated --yet you repeatedly use a number to describe women . :cluebat:
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Boethius on March 26, 2019, 04:00:25 PM

Ok, so how do I turn myself into a hot guy that women want. I'm ok on the looks front but I guess I'm lacking the film star looks. So what is your suggestion?

You can improve your looks and your income.  Other than that, you have to be the authentic you.  Hiding who you are will always backfire.  But you likely will never be film star handsome, and probably wouldn't wish to be, as the best looking male film stars are gay or bi.

I can't say that one particular thing is attractive (personality/outlook, etc.) because different things are attractive to different people.

I sense that you truly want someone to love and who loves you, but you are so misogynistic, that I think long term, that will be an issue for any woman, no matter where she is from.  The advantage you have with an FSUW is that due to language barriers, your misogyny won't be evident from the get go.  But it will be with time.  FSUW are tough as nails, far tougher than WW, so when that discovery is made,  you are in for a world of hurt.  Personally, I think you should explore why you hold these views, how you can change them, and change those attitudes before you look for a partner.

WRT Jay, he has posted here in the past that he has a partner.  So you're out to lunch on that one.

This post was composed without the aid of google.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 26, 2019, 05:15:45 PM
Duh --   your response only serves to prove my point -   ie you never learn .


How many times have you responded like that to me? A dozen?  Plus the same type of answer to numerous others when their comments hit home.

You don't like being rated --yet you repeatedly use a number to describe women . :cluebat:

For all we know you could be making it up, most  change their status after they have found someone. If you're still claiming you are in a LTR with a girl well it must be long term as from when you last wrote if it you must have now been in it a while, but if it even exists is it going anywhere, live together? Marriage? Kids if you want them/can have them?

I know some guys don't take well to the rating of women on looks I wasn't a fan of it a few years back. I know the girl is more than a looks number. However, in terms of FSU Dating and dating in the west it becomes practical to do so. A girl who is a model in looks tends to come with certain issues, so if a girl can be termed an 8-10 this is a what I mean. To my mind most 8-10 girls in the FSU are going to be after certain stuff with perhaps in the direction of around 90 percent going into it with insincere intentions. The everyday looking girls in the 5-7 category to my mind could in percentage terms be more sincere in intention. I don't mean 5-7 as a demeaning or lesser value than a 8-10 looks girl, it's simply stating a girl who is not like a catwalk model.

Let's face it a catwalk model in the UK, US or Ukraine is going to have certain expectations and want certain things. There unlikely to go for the guy who works a bog standard job and is not all that wealthy in comparison to the real wealthy, not unless he's a Mr Personality type.

I don't mind being rated, I have been honest where my strengths and weaknesses are on here, that's more than some members can say.
Title: Re: FSU Dating better without the EU
Post by: msmob on March 26, 2019, 10:34:17 PM
Wow...score 1 for Trench...

However, you could point out that I have a few failures with ladies..given I gave been married twice.

One of them was a FSU W...

May be JayH and I are doing something else wrong or chose unwisely, or both....

However, I see no misogynistic hints in JayH's character...so may be THAT is why he has managed to date...or have an LTR... or suggests he has... He 'demands' proof of my expoits while 'Trappist' re his....hmmm....

We both give you are HARD time, Trench and should expect you to score a point back, occasionally...

Boethius made a very good point a couple of days sgo thatva LOT of us chaps offering you advice are no longer married or have failed marriages. She was right...


However, she supported you when JayH had suggested you were beyond help.. and tried to help you 'get'  the issues you face with your attitude when I had also, 'long given up on you'  and decided your 'opinions' most be countered ..lest a casual visitor adopts your 'winning tactics!...

So, thanks for raising a smile and making ( me, at least ) think ..are we too hard on Trench?......

You do not listen..or learn.. even from those who have made mistakes we see you are making.... period..

Na...you deserve it!...))