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The battle for Ukraine to extract itself out of the Soviet Union has continued long after the disintegration of the FSU as Soviet Russia and Putin's kleptocracy has fought to maintain control and influence over Ukraine.Ukrainians fought a bloody battle on the streets of Kyiv and now in an ongoing war in eastern Ukraine in the desire for freedom and a democracy.
My fundamental observation is contained in this sentence quote "Ukrainian civil society has reason to be proud of what it has accomplished to date."end quote .The question some still ask is "what has changed"? Well-- a lot has changed- but progress is still too slow -- a point most agree on.
Progress in Ukraine is clearly discernible on many fronts, but it is in danger. Incomplete reforms threaten to undermine the credibility of ‘new forces’ and lead to the disillusionment of millions of Ukrainians. This would open the way for revanchist and populist forces to hijack Ukraine’s transformation agenda.
Nearly four years on from its Euromaidan revolution, Ukraine is fighting for survival as an independent and viable state.
This report makes the case for increased Western support, and argues the EU has been too timid in applying its unprecedented political mandate to drive forward post-2014 reforms in the country.
The report, which includes policy recommendations, assesses Ukraine’s position and prospects, and examines its double existential threat: resisting Russian interference, and the fierce internal contest to determine its own political, institutional and civic future.
The report covers six critical areas: geopolitics and security in the context of the conflict with Russia; European integration and the demands of the Association Agreement; economic reform; governance, democratization and the media; the role of civil society in reforms; and efforts to combat corruption.
The Struggle for Ukraine
http://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/files/chathamhouse/publications/research/2017-10-18-struggle-for-ukraine-ash-gunn-lough-lutsevych-nixey-sherr-wolczuk.pdf
http://www.chathamhouse.org/publication/struggle-for-ukraine
http://f1.media.brightcove.com/7/2848955551001/2848955551001_5600139110001_5600112311001.mp4?pubId=2848955551001&videoId=5600112311001
A quick read summary of issues is here--
Five Things to Know about the Problems Facing Ukraine
(1) Ukraine is currently fighting two separate battles.
(2) Seven per cent of Ukraine’s internationally recognized territory has either been annexed by Russia or is controlled by pro-Russian separatists.
(3) Ukraine has struggled to weaken the grip of vested interests and establish a rules-based market economy domestically.
(4) The outcome of Ukraine’s protracted domestic battle with corruption will ultimately define its future.
(5) The Euromaidan protest in late 2013 was triggered by the Ukrainian government’s suspension of plans for closer integration with the EU.
http://medium.com/chatham-house/five-things-to-know-about-the-problems-facing-ukraine-27c2b22f5074
The struggle for Ukraine: a detailed analysis of reform and failure after Euromaidan
Ukraine’s principal challenges
1. Security and defense
2. Reforms. Eurointegration
3 Economic reforms
4 Democratization and governance
5 Human capital and civil society
6 Anti-corruption reforms
Recommendations
To strengthen security,To advance EU integration,To boost economic and political reform,
http://euromaidanpress.com/2017/10/20/the-struggle-for-ukraine-a-detailed-analysis-of-reform-and-failure-after-1991/
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I have linked this article here because it is a summary of some history that led to much of the content of the above articles.
This is quite a good summary in such a short space.
Russia’s attitude has roots in the revolution — and in the famine that killed 13 percent of Ukrainians.
Why does Putin want to control Ukraine? Ask Stalin.
In 2014, Russian officials looked with horror at the young people waving European flags and calling for democracy in Kiev’s Maidan Square and were determined to make sure such a movement would never spread to Russia itself: A mass anti-corruption protest — particularly one that ends with occupation of the dictator’s palace — is what Russia’s corrupt oligarchs fear most. Putin witnessed exactly that kind of “chaos” as a young KGB officer in Dresden in 1989, when the fall of the Berlin Wall struck him as catastrophic. He now blames protests against him on “foreign agents” and Hillary Clinton.
But the need to control Ukraine also has important roots in Russia’s historical memory, and the KGB’s. Turbulence in Ukraine hits panic buttons, because anarchy in the Soviet Union’s agricultural heartland has nearly destabilized Moscow more than once. Perhaps the best way to explain Putin’s paranoia and covetousness toward Kiev is this: Russia remembers those moments well.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/why-does-putin-want-control-ukraine-ask-stalin/2017/10/20/800a7afe-b427-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.85cc61a6d83d
http://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/anne-applebaum-putin-want-control-ukraine-ask-stalin.html
If you have a problem reading the previous links-- it should be possible to read in full here ---
http://www.cetusnews.com/news/Perspective-%7C-Why-does-Putin-want-control-Ukraine--Ask-Stalin-.SkgypvuBFw6Z.html
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I have linked this article here because it is a summary of some history that led to much of the content of the above articles.
This is quite a good summary in such a short space.
Russia’s attitude has roots in the revolution — and in the famine that killed 13 percent of Ukrainians.
Why does Putin want to control Ukraine? Ask Stalin.
In 2014, Russian officials looked with horror at the young people waving European flags and calling for democracy in Kiev’s Maidan Square and were determined to make sure such a movement would never spread to Russia itself: A mass anti-corruption protest — particularly one that ends with occupation of the dictator’s palace — is what Russia’s corrupt oligarchs fear most. Putin witnessed exactly that kind of “chaos” as a young KGB officer in Dresden in 1989, when the fall of the Berlin Wall struck him as catastrophic. He now blames protests against him on “foreign agents” and Hillary Clinton.
But the need to control Ukraine also has important roots in Russia’s historical memory, and the KGB’s. Turbulence in Ukraine hits panic buttons, because anarchy in the Soviet Union’s agricultural heartland has nearly destabilized Moscow more than once. Perhaps the best way to explain Putin’s paranoia and covetousness toward Kiev is this: Russia remembers those moments well.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/why-does-putin-want-control-ukraine-ask-stalin/2017/10/20/800a7afe-b427-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.85cc61a6d83d
http://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/anne-applebaum-putin-want-control-ukraine-ask-stalin.html
If you have a problem reading the previous links-- it should be possible to read in full here ---
http://www.cetusnews.com/news/Perspective-%7C-Why-does-Putin-want-control-Ukraine--Ask-Stalin-.SkgypvuBFw6Z.html
Putin controls 'part' of Ukraine. At a tremendous cost. But he has permanently driven a wedge between the Ukrainian and the Russian peoples. The only way Ukraine would ever ally with Russia is if the country was forced to through subjugation.
I would be interested in knowing, if anyone could provide the numbers - the economic output of the Donbas before the war and presently. And, the cost (or drain) on the Russian economy by Krim. Brent Crude is now at $57 a barrel. But the major oil producers are predicting 2018 as having a significant drop in prices again, with Brent Crude hovering around $45.
Russia mortgaged its economy in the oil sale to China. It continues on, with infrastructure and economic development suffering. At the same time, Putin continues to invest heavily in military spending, last week proclaiming that he had the best weapons in the world. Of course, one of the only true items of export, aside from Russian oil is Russian weapons. Quite honestly, my take is that the Israelis have the best military technology in the world, presently. Economic and efficient.
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The elephant in the room for all issues in Ukraine is Russia. The battle to get Russia out of Ukraine is ongoing -- and not just the battle for physical territory in eastern Ukraine and the Crimea.
Russia is intent on preventing Ukraine succeeding as a democracy .
Why Ukraine’s Next Revolution Won’t Be on the Streets
But the run-up to the 2019 elections will be troublesome. Russian meddling in Ukraine’s political system is growing. “I see a heightened crisis in Ukraine because [Poroshenko] has decided to take on [Dmytro] Firtash,” he said. Firtash has worked closely with the Kremlin. “There is a serious criminal investigation [into Firtash] by the general prosecutor. And [Firtash] is funneling serious money to political rivals to undermine Poroshenko.”
This is an extension of the Kremlin’s 2014 strategy designed to reverse the Revolution of Dignity and prevent it from spreading. “Moscow wants to create a neo-Russian republic in eastern and southern Ukraine as a '[blockage] to the Maidan,” he said.
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-ukraine-s-next-revolution-won-t-be-on-the-streets
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There ya go, Jay...
Canadian arms makers get OK to sell to Ukraine
..."The Liberal cabinet has given the green light for Canadian defence contractors to sell weapons to Ukraine in a watershed decision which a senior official of that country hopes will influence the Trump administration to follow suit.
The embattled eastern European country has been added to Canada's automatic firearms country control list."...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-ukraine-weapons-1.4446891
Better late than never, I guess.
Whether it actually happens or not is a different story. The current federal government is notorious for saying one thing and doing another, but we'll see.
Brass
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This is quite an interesting read. It touches the various issues and is quite a good summary.
The alienation of Ukrainians and the bleak prospects for rebranding them as “Little Russians” belie the notion of Russian success in Ukraine.
Little Hope for “Little Russia”
Current analysis of Russian foreign policy largely depicts—whether with approbation or anxiety—a Kremlin going from strength to strength. With a grab-bag of low-cost, low-risk measures, Russia has reputedly confounded the West, exacerbating our internal divisions, interfering in our elections, and in some cases perhaps even affecting the outcome. Moscow has supposedly snatched Georgia and Ukraine from the clutches of NATO, seized the initiative throughout the Middle East, and enhanced Russian positions in virtually every corner of the globe. Ah, how quaint now sound the recent dismissals of Russia as just a regional power, or “a gas station masquerading as a country!” The Russians have risen from their knees, and we suddenly perceive with alarm that they are ten feet tall.
However, this vision of a rising—or rampaging—Russia needs a serious rethinking at least as far as Moscow’s goals in Ukraine are concerned. The assessment of Russian success in Ukraine is largely rooted in two suppositions: a) that Russian military interventions in Ukraine (as well as in Georgia in 2008) are long-overdue comeuppance for past NATO enlargement and just punishment for Western perfidy; and b) that Russian military action was required to thwart a Western plot to pull Ukraine into NATO in 2014, and prevented the emergence of a serious long-term threat to Russian security.
Neither of these suppositions makes any sense.
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2018/01/17/little-hope-little-russia/
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That's the big headline for today Jay? You're slipping. Ukraine just passed a bill to get the occupied regions back. Russia says it's a violation of the Minsk peace accords. Back to war?
http://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-parliament-passes-bill-occupied-territories-121358340.html
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That's the big headline for today Jay? You're slipping. Ukraine just passed a bill to get the occupied regions back.
NO, they haven't .. the Headline is misleading
1/ It re-iterates that the regions under 'rebel control' are 'occupied'
2/ It does not rule out the use of military force
Funnily enough Russia thinks as you do ;)
http://www.rt.com/politics/416319-ukraine-minsk-deal-donbas-russia/ (http://www.rt.com/politics/416319-ukraine-minsk-deal-donbas-russia/)
"New Kiev law marks shift ‘from sabotage to burial’ on Minsk deal – Russian senator"
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This is an assessment that I mostly agree with --please read the whole article and not just the sample included.
I accept that many Americans here do not like Trump being criticised -- but what is going on in America right now ( & for the last 18 months) is playing right into Putin's hands. The Russian international strategies have and are working way beyond any expectation.
Obama sat on his hands over his last 4 years and never recognised the immense threat of Russia -- certainly Obama fiddled at the edges --the mistake was he totally underestimated Russia and it's intent.
Now --Trump does nothing about Russia ( certainly nothing of any real consequence) -- it is a HUGE mistake.
The clock is ticking.
How Ukraine can build an army to beat Putin
Putin must destroy Ukraine as it exists now. To leave it intact is to destroy himself and his ambitions. He must win because of his war crimes: the mass graves, the torture in Donbas and Crimea, and the MH17 shootdown. All will put him firmly into The Hague as a war criminal. He must win because Ukraine is flourishing as a nation and it shows him as a failure. He must win because the truth will destroy him and Russia.
Putin must invade or subdue Ukraine. He is not yet ready, but the evidence of his preparation is stark. He continues to reinforce, fight and kill in the Donbas. He continues to test new equipment, people and methods in Syria. He reinforces Crimea. He reinforces Kaliningrad to block Western reinforcement. He stockpiles equipment in Belarus. He continues to reequip the army, especially with tanks and modern technological systems. All this is far beyond any peacetime needs. He spends precious national money on the military he needs elsewhere. He continues to train for a strategic war in the west – which means Ukraine cannot escape this and will be a prime target. The Russian MOD says openly in the media that they need three more years to reequip the army in western Russia with tanks and to train troops. This time must not be wasted by Ukraine.
http://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/glen-grant-ukraine-can-build-army-beat-putin.html
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That's a terrific article by someone who really knows what he's talking about - it's well worth the time taken to read it. Also, there are a couple of extremely well-written comments from people who obviously have military experience.
Thanks, Jay! :thumbsup:
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That's a terrific article by someone who really knows what he's talking about - it's well worth the time taken to read it. Also, there are a couple of extremely well-written comments from people who obviously have military experience.
Thanks, Jay! :thumbsup:
Agree --there is a lot in it.
Generally speaking -I like to see the "big picture" fix in anything I do -- and not waste too much time on putting a finger in the dyke! Ukraine was left no choice but to deal with immediate "small picture" issues first.The time comes to change gear -- and that is now.
One of the many plus points made in article is about younger battle experienced officers be put in command of fighting troops.That is in contrast with how it was back in early 2014 when seniority and rank was THE only factor. I have seen first hand how good and respected the younger new generation of leadership is received -- both my the men they command -- and as the reports filter back to their home towns( or based city/towns) the reception given on return from the east tells the story.
The morale of Ukrainian troops is now high -- and that must be used to advantage.
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Putin must destroy Ukraine as it exists now. To leave it intact is to destroy himself and his ambitions. He must win because of his war crimes: the mass graves, the torture in Donbas and Crimea, and the MH17 shootdown. All will put him firmly into The Hague as a war criminal. He must win because Ukraine is flourishing as a nation and it shows him as a failure. He must win because the truth will destroy him and Russia.
I thought Putin's intention was to prevent Ukraine's accession to the EU? In that case he's already largely succeeded.
If his intention was to declare war on Ukraine, that would be wasting Russia's already strained economic resources and I do not see how it's possible to win such a conventional war anyway. At best it will be a war of attrition for Russia. Double stupid.
Putin must invade or subdue Ukraine. He is not yet ready, but the evidence of his preparation is stark. He continues to reinforce, fight and kill in the Donbas. He continues to test new equipment, people and methods in Syria. He reinforces Crimea. He reinforces Kaliningrad to block Western reinforcement. He stockpiles equipment in Belarus. He continues to reequip the army, especially with tanks and modern technological systems. All this is far beyond any peacetime needs. He spends precious national money on the military he needs elsewhere. He continues to train for a strategic war in the west – which means Ukraine cannot escape this and will be a prime target. The Russian MOD says openly in the media that they need three more years to reequip the army in western Russia with tanks and to train troops. This time must not be wasted by Ukraine.
More like he's modernising the Russian military as he rightly should. Defending Russia and neutralising insurrections has always been very expensive as they have had too vast amounts of land and not enough mobile troops to properly cover it.
And on top of this, they've been distracted by the Syrian adventure, are still retro-modernising their aging military assets, still has yet to successfully establish their own silicon valley, with majority of their universities having inadequate funding and producing mostly sub-par scientific research (vital for military industrial powerhouse), etc etc.
Despite all this, you still think Russia has the appetite to conquer Ukraine? Seriously?
Unless the Russian Government has lost all sense of rationality, this is probably not going to happen.
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I thought Putin's intention was to prevent Ukraine's accession to the EU? In that case he's already largely succeeded.
Putin decided to play a long game. He's being patient. He'll continue to destabilize Ukraine hurting it's economy. People will be disillusioned that a Pro Western Ukrainian president can get the job done. Russian propaganda will have some effect. In time, the Ukrainian people will eventually vote in another guy Putin can buy.
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I would not be surprised to see a substantial investment by Western powers into Ukrainian infrastructure. While it is a risk, it is one that would thwart Putin.
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A summary point I have been making --enable Ukraine not only to defend itself, but also to rescue Europe
How the US Can Shore Up Ukraine’s Vulnerabilities in the Black Sea
Given Putin’s widening of the war against the West, it should be clear that multi-dimensional resistance to his efforts must be increased lest he continue to believe that he need merely push against the West to expose its weakness and ensure a Russian victory. The ideas advanced here should become part of a new program to enable Ukraine not only to defend itself, but also to rescue Europe by its example.
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/how-the-us-can-shore-up-ukraine-s-vulnerabilities-in-the-black-sea
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I would not be surprised to see a substantial investment by Western powers into Ukrainian infrastructure. While it is a risk, it is one that would thwart Putin.
There has been via the IMF and increased and increasing private investment over this last 4 years . I wrote 4 years ago how much was changing post Maidan -- and the rate of change is accelerating. There are so many positive indicators now --it is almost exciting.
That said ,it is been a hell of a time for everyday Ukrainians with huge leaps in costs of utilities ( at the behest of the IMF) - but-- considerable ground work has been happening that will be a foundation for future growth.
The biggest problem and hurdle that MUST be addressed --is the ongoing corruption at the highest levels. Somehow --Ukraine needs to put the structure in place for a zero tolerance approach to ending corruption.
Unfortunately -- with American leadership mute & hamstrung ( see-I said something nice about Trump!) over dealing with Russia -- there is an opportunity going begging. I would tie military and political aid & support from the US ( & EU) to internal reforms on corruption ie guarantee Ukrainian independence if Ukraine can join western standards of management of the country.
By far the easiest way to deal with Russia for the west--is to ensure a free & democratic Ukraine succeeds as a democracy. The pressure that will apply to Putin's Russian kleptocracy would be immense from within Russia --once Russians see what is possible.
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The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
by Cynthia Buckley, Ralph Clem, Jarod Fox and Erik Herron April 9 at 7:00 AM
The fighting in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region is entering its fifth year. More than 10,000 people have been killed in this persistent conflict; 2,800 were civilians. Nearly two million people have been internally displaced or put at risk if they remain in their homes.Today, the Donbas war is among the worst humanitarian crises in the world, with frequent attacks occurring from both sides across the oblasts (provinces) of Donetsk and Luhansk. Before the war, this compact, heavily urbanized and industrialized region held nearly 15 percent of Ukraine’s population (6.6 million) and generated 16 percent of its gross domestic product. (http://www.beratergruppe-ukraine.de/download/TN/TN_04_2014_en.pdf) Now it’s a war zone. And our research has documented that, as its hospitals and medical facilities are destroyed — perhaps even targeted — its citizens are being deprived of basic health-care services, echoing Syria’s .....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/04/09/the-war-in-ukraine-is-more-devastating-than-you-know/
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live map here
http://ukrstream.tv/en/liveuamap
lot of activity around Mariupol today, yesterday 2 Russian armored brigades entered southern Ukraine from the east so the pretense of the Russian army not officially being there is no longer being "played"
my nephew's iphone still has him stationed in Rostov so his brigade is not on the move yet
which card will Putin play first, Syria or Ukraine, I'm predicting that one will be a distraction for the other...
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when Putin makes his move on Ukraine he will also take the remainder of Republic of Georgia and Atlantic Richfield's Pipe-line
simultaneous attack north from Krim, west from Donbas, East from Transnistria to Odessa South towards Kiev
at least one will be a diversion
I think everything east of the dnipro will be seized along with southern Ukraine
the war will last less than 2 weeks and involve the entire Russian military
there will be a "major event" that triggers the invasion...
afterwards a new potsdam to divvy up Ukraine
should Western Ukraine continue as an independent nation or be absorbed by its neighbors
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live map here
http://ukrstream.tv/en/liveuamap
lot of activity around Mariupol today, yesterday 2 Russian armored brigades entered southern Ukraine from the east so the pretense of the Russian army not officially being there is no longer being "played"
my nephew's iphone still has him stationed in Rostov so his brigade is not on the move yet
which card will Putin play first, Syria or Ukraine, I'm predicting that one will be a distraction for the other...
The OSCE monitoring mission is strangely silent on this.
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their positions are too far away for them to directly observe the U/R border where they cross
haven't seen their press reports regarding secondary sources of info...
my sources from within the Russian military tell me Russia has been gearing up for a "blizkrieg" on Ukraine for quite some time
Putin's window of opportunity is exactly the length of time that Trump is in office...
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live map here
http://ukrstream.tv/en/liveuamap
lot of activity around Mariupol today, yesterday 2 Russian armored brigades entered southern Ukraine from the east so the pretense of the Russian army not officially being there is no longer being "played"
They did not actually enter Ukraine.
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Russia's imperialistic attitude towards independent Ukraine has turned an instinctive ally into an aggrieved adversary - and Vladimir Putin must personally accept much of the responsibility for the collapse of Kremlin influence in Moscow's traditional geopolitical heartlands
Russian retreat from Ukraine is a tale of unforced Kremlin errors and self-defeating imperial hubris
The ultimate example of Russia’s tone-deaf approach to Ukraine came in spring 2014, when Kremlin efforts to partition the country via hybrid military intervention left Moscow’s influence on Ukrainian affairs at historic lows and Putin's dreams of a new Eurasian empire in tatters. This blunder was to prove the final nail in the coffin of Russia’s Ukraine policy, but it was very much in line with all that had gone before. The decision to engineer pro-Russian uprisings inside Ukraine in early 2014 reflected Moscow's long-held but deluded belief that Russian-speaking Ukrainians would flock to the Kremlin banner when the time was right. It was the culmination of Russia's refusal since 1991 to recognize the nation-building dynamics at work in independent Ukraine.
Remarkably, Russia remains apparently incapable of learning from these failures. In early March 2018, the Kremlin once more succeeded in briefly uniting Ukrainian society against it. On this latest occasion, Moscow abruptly cut gas supplies to the country at a time when temperatures were averaging minus fifteen degrees. Ordinary Ukrainians responded to the emergency by rallying round and dramatically reducing their energy consumption. This allowed the population to survive unscathed, but many will remember how close Russia’s actions brought them to potential humanitarian catastrophe. Yet again, Moscow demonstrated its unrivaled ability to mobilize the Ukrainian population while simultaneously shooting itself in the foot.
It is hard to avoid the conclusion that for reasons rooted in its own sense of national identity, modern Russia simply cannot accept the idea of an independent Ukraine. This would go some way towards explaining Moscow’s otherwise irrational refusal to treat Ukraine as a fully sovereign nation, despite the obviously detrimental effect such posturing has had on Russian influence. It would also help make sense of Russia’s apparent need to belittle Ukrainian statehood aspirations while depicting Ukrainian patriotism as an extremist menace
http://bunews.com.ua/opinion/item/opinion-russian-retreat-from-ukraine-is-a-tale-of-unforced-kremlin-errors-and-self-defeating-imperial-hubris
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How Ukraine can build an army to beat Putin
Ukraine can develop new weaponry with funding from countries like Saudi Arabia....
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/189623/ukraine-releases-more-data-on-hrim_2-srbm.html (http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/189623/ukraine-releases-more-data-on-hrim_2-srbm.html)
Putin better hurry up....
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daily departures from NAS Sigonella, Italy, multiple USAF Northrop Grumman RQ-4B (10-2043) with super advanced AI optics flying surveillance mission over eastern Ukraine
stay sharp boyz!!!
big build-up!!! on both sides!!!!
is it for show?
or will Putin “break bad” again?
if Trump is impeached, will Putin attack eastern Ukraine in force?
is the media campaign in Russia assuring Russians that when they’re disconnected from SWIFT that “all will be well”, part of the information campaign for this war?
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The Ukrainian naval infantry will in many ways follow the United States Marine Corps as the most perfect model for long-term development.
“From my point of view, the U.S. Marine Corps is undoubtedly the best trained and most combat potent element of the U.S. military, which is able to wage the 5th and the 6th generation warfare – not only on the ground, but also offshore, in the air, and so on.”
http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/general-yuriy-sodol-marines-bring-hope-ukraines-naval-revival.html
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we're going to need a lot more monuments for dead soldiers in Ukraine
a whole lot more...
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At least they erect monuments rather than hide their dead in shame.
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The Ukrainian Armed Forces conducted their first live-fire test of the Javelin anti-tank missile system provided by the United States as part of its defense aid package to the country.
http://youtu.be/yVM2SUmoxAY
http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ukraines-armed-forces-test-javelins-video.html (http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ukraines-armed-forces-test-javelins-video.html)
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unfortunately, as part of the deal
javelins have to be stored in special "monitored" facilities
so they don't end up on the black market in the middle east
there are facilities for this
one's in kharkov
i know where they are
Russians know where they
when the kakashka goes down, those monitored facilties are all gonna be rubble in the first 3 min
so back to RPGS
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Another Mc standing up for Ukraine
America Must Stand with Ukraine Against Russia[/b]
Michael McCaul: Washington should increase foreign military sales and security assistance to Ukraine.
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-must-stand-ukraine-against-russia-54437
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In Ukraine, They Sing a Lullaby that Gives Russians the Creeps
Ukrainian sense of sefl is stronger than ever.
On September 19, 2019, on social media pages of some Ukrainian volunteers, bloggers, and activists featured pictures with a concise caption, “SLEEP,” which was drawn in red on the background of a heap of coal.
It turned out that these pictures came from a new video by a Ukrainian singer, Anastasiya Shevchenko, and that video, based on her song, “A Lullaby for an Enemy,” not only touched the hearts of Ukrainians but also sent shivers down the spine of Russians.
It is interesting that in the past, Anastasiya Shevchenko was a fighter and a paramedic of the Third Company of the Battalion number one of the Ukrainian Kulchytsky National Guard.
“Deep in my soul, I feel pity for our enemies. When you see people, who come to die in some other people’s land, then you understand just how badly they live in their own.
It is easier for them to sleep forever in other people’s land than to survive in theirs.
That’s why today I sing this lullaby for the enemy,” – wrote Anastasiya .
In their comments to the video, many viewers wrote that this is very heart-rending and powerful, and that it sounds like a spell or a black magic.
“Very strong. Makes you almost shiver. One can make this into a horror video and put it on at the demarcation line in the Donbas,” wrote one YouTube user.
“It’s even more than shivers down one’s spine. Every nerve and every little hair on your body reacts to this. Very, very strong!” – said another listener.
“It’s only us Ukrainians who can call our enemies воріженьки (the diminutive form of a noun, the way one calls a small child) and sing a lullaby to them when we kill them. Ukrainians are my amazing nation, talented, musical, and worthy of a better living. One feels electricity spreading over the skin when one listens to this woman sing. Glory to Ukraine!” – yet another listener stressed.
The song does sound like a spell in Ukrainian. Yet, specifically for Russians, the video has subtitles in red, which resemble traces of blood on the black coal of the Donbas. If you liked this “lullaby,” please, forward a link to this song to the Russian occupiers of Ukraine. Let them listen to it and then sleep for all eternity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=40WD9RDAMVc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=40WD9RDAMVc
“Year after year
I sing this lullaby to you
Obey my word
Sleep
I pity you, my enemy
Pity that you chose to walk down this road
You walk toward your death like a lunatic
Sleep
Leave your anger and leave your fatigue
There is no more need
You will drown forever in your sleep
Sleep
You will sleep forever in this cold soil
To you, it will be like this womb of mine
You are my captive forever
Sleep
You wanted this land
Now mix with it
You are my land now
Sleep
One Can Make This into a Horror Video and Put It on at the Demarcation Line”
http://informnapalm.org/en/in-ukraine-they-began-to-sing-a-lullaby-that-gives-russians-creeps-a-video/
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yes, I make up silly stories!
like the silly story of Zelensky working on behalf of Kolomoisky...
that’s crazy!!!
so please explain this photo, taken 10 days ago in Ukraine...
please explain why the former head of the NBU is being physically attacked at both home and abroad, AND for what reason....
http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ex-nbu-head-gontareva-decries-persecution-after-arson-attack-hit-and-run.html
http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/house-of-ex-nbu-head-gontareva-burned-down-in-molotov-cocktail-attack.html
Putin has put pressure on Trump to go after Kolomoisky’s assets in the USA...
to put pressure on Kolomoisky....
instead of being in jail Kolomoisky is working out a deal over Privatbank with Zelensky!!!
he is going to have the bank returned to him!!!!! it’s already 90% negotiated
he is going to give up in oil company in return!!!!!
http://www.ft.com/content/beddb1cc-d885-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17
Kolomoisky wants the ex-head of the NBU OUT OF THE WAY
to do his Cyprus syphon extortion SCHEME all over again!!!!!
ask Wilbur Ross how that one works!
when the house of cards collapses, Russian political engineering is waiting....
to start crying “zhids”!!!!! zhids!!! they crashed the economy!!!!!!
hundreds of titushki begin attacking synagogs and Jews in the street...
Jews ask for international help
Russian army is in Odessa in 100 hours after crossing border
to save Ukraine from fascists!
game over. man..
ahahahahahahahahaha
because I will have a Russian Passport tovarish, and will be registered at a prestigious address in Moscva...
and you on the other hand are going to have to start going to Moldova from then on JayJay!!!
and leave malenkaya Rossiya to me, horrosho!
hope you remembered the dingo treats when you went grocery shopping...
must SUCK to have to do your own shopping and cooking and stuff like that, HUH?
I, on the other hand, have a whole bunch of women EAGER to serve me...
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http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22223.msg517990#msg517990 (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22223.msg517990#msg517990)
The "propaganda" for Ukraine is so strong, she has to sing it in Russian.
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“A Lullaby for an Enemy,” not only touched the hearts of Ukrainians but also sent shivers down the spine of Russians.
Sorry, but there is probably nothing that Ukraine or Ukrainians can do that will send shivers down spine of Russians.
Only hope would have been if Ukraine had kept nuclear weapons.
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so a couple of months after the military director of the battalions commits suicide
Zelensky withdraws all of the military force the battalions had stationed in the East...
a month ago Zelensky replaced the Prime Minister who was also Jewish, with a non-Jew
to turn it down a notch
too many Jews will make the soup unappealing to Goy tastes...
everyone’s just waiting for Putin to make the call, the military is 100% ready!
if Trump is not re-elected then Putin’s window shuts next November...
Nord Stream will be ready by then...
the collapse of the current western liberal attitude in Ukraine
will occur after the collapse of Ukraine, and Ukraine will shift far right to Russia
if you are Ukrainian, what can you put your faith and hopes in?
there will be only one thing Tovarisch...
and things are gonna go back to the way they’ve always been
and always will be in little Russia
Ukrainians are to Russians
what the Irish are to the English...
a hardy breed of serfs...
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Ukrainians are to Russians what the Irish are to the English... a hardy breed of serfs...
Actually serfdom was more prevalent in Russia than in Ukraine.
A consequence of the much richer farm land in Ukraine.
This also was a cause of the Holodomor directed at Ukrainians because they were more resistant to
communism and collective farming than most other parts of the growing Soviet Union.
They were more resistant because they had a class of well to do (relatively) farmers (kulaks) who had never been serfs, unlike the widespread surfdom in Russia.
The kulaks were separated into three categories: those to be killed immediately, those to be sent to prison, and those to be deported to Siberia or Russia Asia.
Russians are more accepting of centralized control and even dictatorship because of their history of being serfs.
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some would disagree with what you wrote, and some wouldn't
here's a short reference regarding Ukrainian peasantry
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CS%5CE%5CSerfdom.htm
the village where I established Rancho Del Krimster, was a former Soviet agricultural workers village
like a migrant workers camp but on a permanent basis
people who lived here were second class citizens in the Soviet Union
you can do WTF you want here and everyone will be too scared to complain about it!!!
one of my wife's relatives was arrested for being a kulak in the soviet period, because he owned a chandelier and two cows!
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This also was a cause of the Holodomor directed at Ukrainians
Except that the 'Holodomor' decimated populations in what is / was clearly Russia...
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Except that the 'Holodomor' decimated populations in what is / was clearly Russia...
Oh?
It is one thing playing the forums fool to get attention -- but joining that nonsense about the Holodomor just shows what a complete and utter idiot you are.
Summary says Soviet propaganda-- but clearly RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA. There has been a mountain of material posted on this forum about the Holodomor in UKRAINE and the act of genocide against the people of Ukraine.
Denial of the Holodomor
Denial of the Holodomor is the assertion that the 1932–1933 Holodomor, a man-made[1] famine in Soviet Ukraine,[2] did not occur[3][4][5][6] or diminishing the scale and significance of the famine.[7] This denial and suppression of information about the famine was made in official Soviet propaganda from the very beginning until the 1980s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_the_Holodomor
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Are the Kuban or Smolenskaya oblast in Ukraine, JayH?
I only ask as one of Russian partner's Grandparents were from these parts of RUSSIA and also suffered extreme hunger, hardship property confiscation during the same period...
The 'Holodomour' was NOT confined to what is modern day Ukraine..though that SSR was the worst effected.
'Foolish' is your near constant copying and pasting of stuff without checking authenticity or suggesting 'untruths' when you simply prove you are clueless.
I am simply pointing out that not only Ukrainians suffered..adding sawdust to bulk out potato mash.
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jayH, WTF man?
were you were staring at the toilette flushing in the wrong direction again?
Mobers is 100% correct, Holodomor, was very prevalent in southern Russia
but in Russia, we pronounce it Golodomor
at the same time, Stalin had another mass starvation under way primarily in Russia
that involved shutting down factories which resulted in workers losing their ration cards
and sharing the same fate
mobers wasn't denying holodomor, horrosho
but you were SAYING he was
which is a VERY old Soviet "trick"
very clever...
but, not clever enough.....
jayh, why do you beg us to beat you all the time?
I assume you're a masochist and you enjoy our torment
why else would you come here and make these pitiful embarrassing attempts to challenge us
which ALWAYS end in your complete and total humiliation
please tell me the undoubtedly sad and tragic tale of WHY do you keep doing this
i'm all ooshkie cobber!
start from the beginning...
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No, Holodomor was coined for, and is used specifically for the mass murder of millions of Ukrainian peasants. It is restricted to starvation in Ukraine, Kuban, and the Don region. All these regions were, at the time, populated predominantly by ethnic Ukrainians. The term "Holodomor" was first used by diaspora Ukrainians.
There were other regions that suffered collectivization and mass starvation as well, including the Northern Caucasus, the Volga Region, the South Urals, Western Siberia, and Kazakhstan. All of these areas also were heavily populated by ethnic Ukrainians, although they are not part of the Holodomor.
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the Golodomor was a part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–33...
it was a part of the same “greater” famine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333
anyway, what everyone in Russia tells me is that it’s all propaganda spread by provokateurs
because Stalin was a strong leader, strong like stalnoy, who saved the Soviet Union from Fascism...
and strong leaders are good!
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No, the Holodomor is specific to the regions I mentioned. There are hundreds of scholarly articles written on this, many of which describe the event as a genocide of the Ukrainian people. I am not certain it was an intended as a genocide, my views on this have fluctuated, but at this time, there is no definitive proof, historically, one way or the other.
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I suspect that to the victims, our opinions are of absolutely no importance...
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Hmm, I'm not so certain. I've known dozens of victims, some of whom are still alive. The attitude toward the event differs among those who stayed in Ukraine, and diaspora survivors. However, the acknowledgment and remembrance of their suffering is something that resonates with them.
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Wife tells of ancestors who survived Holodomor by eating mostly honey and onions.
Those who came to confiscate grains, potatoes, vegetables, fruits and any other food didn't bother with the onions and didn't know about the honey.
They also went to railroad tracks because sometimes passengers would throw them pieces of bread.
Each time the confiscators came to take any grains, etc., they would exclaim . . .
"Why are you still alive!!"
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I admit to a sloppy linguistic practice of affixing my own unique labels to things...
I don't call school shootings, "School Shootings", I call them"Columbines"
same thing with Russian famines....
I don't call it "The Great Soviet Famine of 1932-1933" which the Golodomor was a part of...
I just call it Golodomor, sloppy, yes, I know....
apologies for any hurt feelings
famines
pogroms
war
genocide
financial collapse
let the good times roll Ukraine
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It's Holodomor. The letter "ґ" was removed from the Ukrainian alphabet under Soviet policies of Russification, replaced by the Russian "г" sound. In Ukrainian, "г" has an "h" sound, not a "g" sound. Russified Ukrainians don't know this either.
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oichen manoga things Russified Ukrainians don't know, eta pravda!!!
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Distinguished President, Your Excellencies, Ladies and Gentlemen!
On behalf of Ukraine, I congratulate you, Mr. President, on having been elected President of the 74th session of the UN General Assembly. Ukraine supports the implementation of all ambitious priorities of this year's Assembly.
Let us be honest, everyone present here has different interests, views, values and problems. But there is one thing that unites us all. Each of you, ladies and gentlemen, had the first speech from this rostrum.
Please recall your feelings at that moment. Every one of you, respected and honored today, was once a beginner yet a sincere world politician. And then, a cocktail of pragmatism, skepticism and harsh geopolitical reality has not yet managed to quench your passion, romanticism and unwavering belief that the world can be changed for the better.
Remember how important it was to tell the problems and troubles of your country and your people to the world back then. How important it was to be heard.
I have the same feelings today.
Let me tell you one story. The story of a person for whom "being heard" has become the meaning of life. For this man had a divine voice. He was called one of the best baritones and countertenors in the world. His voice was heard at Carnegie Hall in New York, Notre Dame Cathedral, Covent Garden in London and Grand Opera in Paris. Each of you could have personally heard his incredible singing. But unfortunately, there is one thing that will not allow you to do so. I’ll show you. It looks like this. 12.7 millimeters that not only stopped his career, but also stopped his life. It costs 10 dollars. And, unfortunately, today on our planet it is the value of human life.
There are thousands of such stories, millions of such bullets. Welcome to the XXI century. A century of opportunities. Where instead of "being heard" you have an opportunity to be killed.
The name of the man I’ve told you about was Wassyl Slipak. He was a Ukrainian, a soloist of the Paris National Opera who was killed in Donbas defending Ukraine from the Russian aggression.
The war in Donbas has already lasted five years and five years have passed since Russia annexed the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea. Despite the existence of international law and hundreds of organizations designed to defend it, our country defends its own sovereignty and territorial integrity with weapons in its hands and losing its citizens.
More than 13 thousand people killed. 30 thousand wounded. One and a half million people were forced to leave their homes. Every year, these monstrous numbers are heard here, but with one correction - every year these numbers get bigger.
The end of the war, the return of all the occupied Ukrainian territories and the prevailing of peace are my tasks. But not at the cost of our citizens' lives, not at the cost of freedom or the right of Ukraine to its own choice.
That is why we need the support of the world. I understand: everyone present here has their own state concern and other people's problems should not worry you more than your own. But in today's world, where we live, there is no longer someone else’s war. None of you can feel safe when there is a war in Ukraine, when there is a war in Europe.
And it can be fatal to think that this does not concern you and will never affect you. You can't think of the global and close your eyes to the details or, as it may seem, even trifles. Because that's how the foundation for the two world wars was laid. And tens of millions of human lives became the price of inattention, silence, inaction or unwillingness to sacrifice one's ambitions. Have humanity started to forget these dreadful lessons of history?
Ukraine remembers them. And Ukraine has always demonstrated its willingness to provide peace in a civilized way. And took steps towards international security. For example, when it gave up its nuclear capability, which at the time was larger than in the UK, France and China combined.
Because it seemed to us that we were all building a different, new world. Where you do not need to have a nuclear weapon to be heard. Where you will be respected for deeds, not for nuclear warheads.
After all, in this "new" world, our country has lost part of its territories and is losing its citizens almost daily.
That is why, if not Ukraine than who has the right to speak today about the need to rethink and revise current world rules?
Of course, we do not question the authority of international institutions, in particular the United Nations. But we must admit that the mechanisms are not flawless. They start failing and therefore need an update
United Nations. But let's be honest - are nations really united today? And even if so, what exactly unites them?
Disasters and wars.
We always hear calls for fair change, just promises, announcement of new initiatives from this highest platform in the world. It is time to make sure that they are always backed by real deeds. Because in the modern world, where the human life costs 10 dollars, words have been devalued long ago.
Let us remember the goal of the UN’s establishment in 1945? To maintain and strengthen peace and international security. But what shall we do when the very basis of international security is at stake?
For any war today - in Ukraine, Syria, Libya, Yemen or any other corner of the planet, regardless of the number of casualties - is the greatest threat to the entire civilization. Because in 2019, homo sapiens still resolves conflicts by killing. Throughout its existence, humanity has been constantly finding new ways to overcome distance, transfer information, cure diseases.
And only one thing remains unchanged: contradictions between nations and states are still resolved not by words, but by missiles.
Not by word. But by war.
Don't think that war is far away. Its methods, technology and weapons have made our planet not so big anymore. And today, the time I spent on the last paragraph is enough to destroy the Earth completely.
This means that each leader is responsible not only for the fate of his own country, but also for the fate of the whole world. In my opinion, we all need to realize that a strong leader is not the one who, without batting an eyelid, sends thousands of soldiers to death. A strong leader is the one who protects everyone's life.
Now let us answer ourselves - what do our meetings give to humanity? If for someone it is only a political theater where they play a role and declare light intentions, which are then crossed out by dark actions?
It's not just a rostrum. And not a scene. And seven and a half billion inhabitants of the planet are not just spectators, but direct participants in real life. The basics of this life scenario are laid here. And today it depends on everyone present whether it will be life at all.
Honestly, I would really like to call this speech “15 minutes that changed the world”. But I am well aware that changing something that has existed for thousands of years is simply impossible in 15 minutes. And behavioral theories say that war is an integral part of human nature. But the world is changing and people are changing with it. And if we once learned writing, mathematics, invented the wheel, penicillin and conquered space, humanity still has a chance.
Being aware of danger for civilization, we must generate other meanings. And fight for a new human mentality where aggression, anger and hatred will be atrophied feelings.
Ladies and Gentlemen! On this day, September 25, Erich Maria Remarque died. And 90 years ago the world saw his novel “All Quiet on the Western Front”. I recall the words from its preface: "This is an attempt to tell about a generation crippled by war. About those who fell victim to it, even fleeing shells". And 90 years ago the world saw another novel. It's Ernest Hemingway's "A Farewell to Arms". Here's a quote from it: “War cannot be won by victories. The one who wins the war never stops fighting…”.
The world must remember: every next crippled generation is a path to a new war. Which is impossible, just impossible to win with victories.
Someone says now: “There will be no World War III. It will be the last one”. I hope this phrase is an awareness of the threat to the planet, not an announcement.
Thank you!
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The former actor continues to impress me.
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Why are you impressed by someone who has installed all of Kolomoisky's people to the levers of power in Ukraine?
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Why are you impressed by someone who has installed all of Kolomoisky's people to the levers of power in Ukraine?
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Like too much in this world-it is about compromise (s)
He is doing a lot right --he has the peoples mandate and needs to run with it.
His handling of Trump was outstanding -- sucking up and not offending in a really tricky situation for him and Ukraine.
That said --I am thinking so far so good-- but I want to see real results and reforms.
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"the former actor continues to impress me."
what do you mean "former"?
seriously, how do you rob 5 billion dollars from a country the size of Ukraine (kolomoisky/privatbank)...
and not only do you NOT go to jail!!!
but instead, the government bails out the bank
AND GIVES IT BACK TO YOU AGAIN!!!!!
CHIVO bela malchick?
what cho talkin 'bout Willis?
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Like too much in this world-it is about compromise (s)
He is doing a lot right --he has the peoples mandate and needs to run with it.
His handling of Trump was outstanding -- sucking up and not offending in a really tricky situation for him and Ukraine.
That said --I am thinking so far so good-- but I want to see real results and reforms.
Zelensky is there to enrich himself, just like all the other past presidents.
The only person who truly knows what he wants is Kolomoisky. He now controls the SBU. He is trying to legalize his wealth, which is why he returned from exile in Israel, where he couldn't be extradited back to Ukraine.
There was a photo last week of a meeting of Zelensky and his top ministers, with Kolomoisky beside Zelensky, like the cat that just ate the canary. I am not optimistic.
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Dear Readers!
Ukraine is not dead yet!!
but...
Molly K. McKew says we oughta call a Priest...
so don't y'all forget now! Donbas coal is gonna be called Novo Russiya coal in about another year or so...
please make all the necessary changes to your lexicons, spossiba!
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/06/putin-trump-zelensky-phone-call-229243
told y'all this was comin' now didn't I?
and now from Krimster Maps prepared especially for our esteemed Readers!
this map well help our Dear Readers familiarize themselves with the pipelines BEFORE they start hearing about them on the news!!!
Say What?
the latest scuttlebut is shutting off gas to Ukraine at the end of 2020....
Ukraine can re-route some gas from Poland and Romania, but only get about 50% of it's needs
and it would lose 3 billion/yr in gas transit fees, plus hundreds of millions in stolen gas, all lost...
that transit fee represents 3% of GDP, shutting off 50% gas supply could shrink the economy another 20% in a matter of months....
then....
PrivatBank and the NBU implode!!!!
then...
oh...
and Right Sector is planning a coup at this very moment while the anti-capitulation protests are going on!!!!
Putin is already at the 50% point for launching "The Operation" the biggest use of military force by Russia since WWII to liberate Kiev from fascists....
biggest variable is Trump...
and fear of a Democratic Presidential backlash
Ukraine military is so weak in the East, that if Russia launched a full attack the size of its last military exercise against Ukraine...
it would be 24 hours at most before Kyiv and ODESSA (the main target!) fell....
GUESS WHAT???
In a couple of more years, y'all are gonna be spelling Kiev again!!!!!!
ahahahahahahahahaha
average age of Ukrainian soldier in the East is 40!!!!
young Ukrainians are NOT signing up for this war!!!!
there's almost NO support among the young...
EXCEPT...
for the "battalions"
BUT...
the GRU assassinated its military leader to replace him with a pro-Russian puppet
and Zelensky used him to withdraw all the battalions from Novo Russiya
now Zelensky has agreed to hand over Novo Russiya to Russia...
so Novo Russiya will either end up like Transnistria or be eventually incorporated into Russian territory like Georgia in 2008 and Crimea in 2014
either way, huge step forward for Putin!!!!
BUT, I don't believe this will be the end of the story...
DO YOU?
ahahahahahaha!!!!!
I told y'all that Putin was the rude beast slouching towards Bethlehem, would you see it...
because, folks, he ain't gonna stop after Ukraine....
in 2024, they make him king...
Emperor of The Russian Federation
and he founds a new state recognized aristocratic class based on hereditary oligarchy
he does this to gain the votes in the Duma to be king
and everyone in "all the Russias" bow down to their new lords and masters
foreigners in Ukraine, you'd best be gone before the shooting starts...
because when it does, all air and rail will be shutdown on the first day...
please find one of the safety passes that are posted on walls and billboards
and present it and yourself to the nearest anti-fascist coalition soldier
please remember to have your passport handy
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dear Readers!
do not be distracted by all the press in the Western Media a few weeks from now about the meeting between Jarred Kushner, Rick Perry and Ukraine President Zelensky in Brussels...
it’s a distraction....
but...
when it’s revealed that it was the USA that pressured Zelensky for the Steinmeier formula
and then later it will be revealed that Putin pushed Trump to do this...
it will further undermine Ukrainian popular support for Zelensky...
BUT...
the MOST IMPORTANT thing is happening this week in Kyiv!!!
yeah Kyiv!!!!
this week a judge will decide if kolomoisky has Privat Bank returned to him...
this is WHAT’S IMPORTANT!
because Putin’s plan will ONLY work if kolomoisky has the bank returned to him...
and once again, I gotta say, "Putin is a gawd damned genuis"!
http://www.kyivpost.com/business/lawyers-say-judge-hearing-privatbank-case-heavily-biased-in-favor-of-kolomoisky.html
since it’s pretty much a done deal...
then I guess everyone will just have to take kolomoisky's word that he won’t start looting Privat Bank or the NBU next month...
BUT...
if he does, then it’s one step away from “GAME OVER!” for Ukraine....
to save it from fascism that erupts in the chaos of economic collapse
oh the horrors being perpetrated by Russian paid titushki and prvocateurs...
AND THE BEAUTY OF IT!!!!
NO RESCUE WILL BE COMING FROM THE WEST this time!!!....
UKRAINE IS JUST LAYING THERE, WAITING FOR PUTIN TO TAKE IT!!!!!
HE’S COMING!!!!
the recent exercise showed that Russian units were mixed in with an exercise that took place on the Belarus border with Ukraine...
see the helpful diagram
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ATTENTION! EVERYONE TO GET FROM STREET!
In the case of anti-fascist liberation forces coming to your neighborhood in Ukraine and you’re a Western tourist, I’d recommend the following:
Forget about trying to leave, airports, rail, major roads will all be shutdown in the first few hours.
The border cross-points will be dangerous because many will be mined and booby trapped...
So stay put!!!
I would have your suitcase packed and be ready to quickly evacuate.....
if you have a passport, hold it clearly in your hand and approach the nearest anti-fascist coalition soldier and you will be safely escorted to your embassy
in the case of heavy artillery attacks DO NOT shelter inside Ukrainian apartments, especially basements, they’re death traps, it’ll be months before someone will dig your body out...
instead, scout around in the immediate vicinity where you live for an emergency bunker, like a drain-pipe for instance...
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Can I put my pop-up Ukrainian doll in my suitcase?
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what I'd certainly DO if I were you man, I mean if you TRULY care....
is go to a welding shop that does TIG welding and score a small tank of helium for about $100 or so...
inflate your seks kukla with the helium...
and just LET HER GO MAN!!!!
LET HER BE FREE!!!!!
do this and you will be soaring in the clouds with her
set your seks kukla free....
We got seks kuklas in the corn flour, seks kuklas in the corn
seks kuklas in the bedroom, seks kuklas in the barn
We got seks kuklas drivin' Cadillacs to Washington Dee Sea
When I set my seks kuklas free
yeeee- haaaaaaa!!!!
now speakin just for me and some people from Tennessee
we got a thing or two to tell ya'll
this lady may have stumbled, but she ain't NEVER fell!
and if the RUSSIANS, they don't like it...
they can all go STRAIGHT TO HELL!
hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! dumb phuque Yankees got PLAYED!!!!
hard to imagine anyone dumber...
they STILL haven't caught on to the CON!!!
but they will SOON learn about it....
but OOPS!!!
too late!!!!
hahahahahaha!!!
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today the court in Kyiv deferred its finding to this instead
case No. 826/7432/17
http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-economy/2707462-nbu-appeals-against-court-decision-about-illegality-of-privatbanks-nationalization.html
IMF negotiation with Ukraine has ALREADY failed because of this....
this is already a firm win for Putin against Ukraine...
the public mood in Kyiv is tense and anxious even now....
a lotta anti-capitualtion protests been goin on you see...
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today the court in Kyiv deferred its finding to this instead
case No. 826/7432/17
http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-economy/2707462-nbu-appeals-against-court-decision-about-illegality-of-privatbanks-nationalization.html
IMF negotiation with Ukraine has ALREADY failed because of this....
this is already a firm win for Putin against Ukraine...
the public mood in Kyiv is tense and anxious even now....
a lotta anti-capitualtion protests been goin on you see...
Krimster,
When is the case against the Russian arm of Privatbank ? ;)
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B&N Bank acquired 100 percent of Moskomprivatbank's shares from Ukrainian PrivatBank
Moskomprivatbank has an estimated value of $168 million, which includes a subordinated loan.
B&N Bank received a $336 million loan from Deposit Insurance Agency to maintain Moskomprivatbank's liquidity and implement a project related to the creation of the credit institution's independent information technology infrastructure.
The Central Bank of the Russian Federation also approved the rehabilitation procedure of Moskomprivatbank, under which B&N Bank will act as an acquirer. The Central Bank imposed temporary administration on Moskomprivatbank in March, at which point DIA was assigned as Moskomprivatbank's temporary administrator.
Moskomprivatbank shareholders will elect new governing bodies during an upcoming general meeting. Control will be carried out under B&N Bank's control after new governing bodies are elected.
as you can see from this recent video, Americans are just about able to see what's ACTUALLY going on now....
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-ukraine-scandal-spawns-counterintelligence-investigation-71442501867
and remember, I told ya'll here, before the whistle blower story was public...
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so when y’all see groups of smiling Russian soldiers takin selfies on Potemkin Stairs...
that’s the time when I’ll be making my next trip to Odessa as well...
now remember tovarish , don't forget to say, "spossiba veteran" on Victory Day, horrosho!
I have my eye on a kino studio there, but UNFORTUNATELY I am not high enough in the organizatsiya to be “allowed” to buy it....
technically, at the moment, I’m a nobody, cuz I ain’t a citizen of the Russian Federation...
I’m just a “consultant” who works “pod stolom”....
most of the time, I figure out an angle to make money so that it doesn’t come out of my patron’s pocket...
he tends to appreciate the thoughtfulness of this approach...
but in a couple of years, I WILL be a Russian citizen...
AND I will even be allowed to change my name to a new Russian sounding name...
I will essentially have a new identity thanks to the Russian government!!!!
spossiba bolshoi!
so in order to get the studio, I’ve had to bring it to the attention of my patron
and offer him a partnership in it...
I knew he’d be interested because he has a daughter the same age as one of mine...
he has the judicial and United Russia and FSB connections to just grab the company outright in court... and this is basically what he will do, file a bogus law suit and then seize the company from its Ukrainian owners in the new Russian property court, we will just be one of a thousand similar cases...
we each have to put into escrow the amount needed to cover all the payoff costs, which totals $500,000.... not too bad for a company worth 10 million.....
but...
right after this happens, we will have to make a large payment to a special Russian “Rare Violin” purchase program through an offshore bank in Latvia....
AND THEN, I will be part owner, and give myself a vice presidency position...
but...
I am also hoping to “piggyback” my own side deal on top of this through the same process...
for getting 80 hecters of land that borders the Akkerman fortress south of Odessa...
and build the Villa Del Krimster there....
and if I’m successful in making all the connections for doing the side deal, then I'll just be doing more and more..
this is how I am laying the foundation for my future family dynasty in Russia...
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What a fanciful tale. Imagine, dividing the war spoils before the war.
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he has the judicial and political and FSB connections to just grab the company outright in court... and this is basically what he will do, file a bogus law suit and then seize the company from its Ukrainian owners in the new Russian property court, we will just be one of a thousand similar cases...
And you will be able to look your daughters in the face !! ??
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"And you will be able to look your daughters in the face !! ??"
this WAS ALL MY OLDEST DAUGHTER'S IDEA IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!
this is how BIZNESS gets done in Russia moy droog...
if it wasn't me, it'd just be someone else doin it...
we live part-time in Russia now...
so I teach my daughters to be as hard as nails and as "cut-throat" as they can be...
"What a fanciful tale. Imagine, dividing the war spoils before the war. "
it's ALWAYS done this way... it's not as ad-hoc as you think...
everyone in Russia knows what's coming for Ukraine at the end of next year...
that's all the GazProm execs talked about at my home during Thanksgiving...
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Wonder how all of those tanks will enjoy meeting the Javelin missiles that the US just provided Ukraine? Absent a full scale war, including air bombardments, Putin will not have his way. And if Putin does proceed with an all-out war, then Ukraine will have significant support from the US and European allies.
Personally, I think ole Krimster is smoking the whacky weed. We've heard his predictions like this before. But I've always noticed his political prognostications do not, typically, come through. My guess is that the first thing NATO countries would do to an all out war by Russia and against Ukraine is that they would turn off the oil spigots from Russia and let Russia choke on their own bile. Europe has had five years, now, to prepare for Russian belligerence. Russia is, after all, a third world country with a big gas can. And the Europeans know all too well about allowing other European countries the ability to make war on their neighbors.
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Trump supporters say the dumbest stuff ever...
a Javelin will never be launched in Ukraine...
half of Ukraine's military will surrender the first day...
North Stream was done with Europe's cooperation, just so this could happen...
Europe is switching to Russia....
Putin controls ALL the pipelines to Europe, it's why he's in Syria...
Putin will call Trump and tell him what to do and say when he takes Ukraine just like all the OTHER CALLS...
Russian mob is already moving into Odessa and displacing Ukrainian one...
your president is done now and on borrowed time, Putin KNOWS EXACTLY how long Trump will be in Office
and Trump's last day is Putin's deadline for taking Ukraine...
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Perhaps you've only been reading your own posts. I am castigated on this forum because I do NOT support Trump. But then, your head has not been seen for a long time on this forum. It disappeared a long time ago. But we know where it is. Why don't you pull it outta there?
I find it absolutely amazing that you support the fringe liberal element here in the United States, but when you walk off the plane in Russia you turn all radically ultra conservative despot supporter. And yet, you see no disparity between the two positions. :rolleyes:
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“Why don't you pull it outta there?”
yeah, you’re right...
my wife and her GF have had enough...
BUT...
now, it's my turn, oh boy oh boy....
"And yet, you see no disparity between the two positions."
nothing to do with ideology
my only ideal in Russia is to make money...
and it's an incredible place for that!!!
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Ukraine and Russia has meeting in Paris and agree to ceasefire among other things before end of 2019.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-russia-agree-on-full-ceasefire-in-east-ukraine-before-2019-end-communique/ar-BBY0n2s?ocid=spartanntp
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ever hear of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact...
you don't think Russia would EVER do something like that again do you?
isn't the treaty a great cover story for when you DO invade....
do you know that 7% of Ukraine's territory IS ALREADY under Russian occupation....
if you're a foreigner in Ukraine
just remember this...
when you hear that Russia has cut off the gas to Ukraine....
RUN!!!! FORREST RUN!!!!
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do you know that 7% of Ukraine's territory IS ALREADY under Russian occupation....
Most of us do .. it's just the Kremlin that suggests, otherwise .... ;)
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ever hear of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact...
you don't think Russia would EVER do something like that again do you?
isn't the treaty a great cover story for when you DO invade....
do you know that 7% of Ukraine's territory IS ALREADY under Russian occupation....
if you're a foreigner in Ukraine
just remember this...
when you hear that Russia has cut off the gas to Ukraine....
RUN!!!! FORREST RUN!!!!
Do you think it will amount to a prelude to invasion? rather than just an economic war?
According to the map in this article Ukraine doesn't buy Gas of Russia, I think they couldn't afford it and were behind in payments & Russia cut them off for aligning themselves too closely to the west/EU. So now it is just used to carry gas to Europe in exchange for a carrier fee. I'm guessing this is more than the trouble of paying Ukraine a carrier fee even if the carrier fee is worth a bit to Ukraine.
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-12-18/u-s-concedes-defeat-on-nord-stream-2-pipeline-officials-say
What do you think the EU's/Germany's response will be if Russia invade Ukraine, will they trade embargo the gas coming through to Germany from Russia? Trade Embargo on a larger scale? Visa restrictions? Or not much that amounts to anything at all?
Or will Russia just leave Ukraine to wallow in it having outlived their usefulness to Russia?
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the pipeline was built BECAUSE of the invasion
if Trump can't get sanctions reversed, than Putin has NO OTHER choice than to seize Ukraine...
but he needs to wait a bit more...
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http://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/world/europe/russia-gas-export-pipeline-in-jeopardy-as-trump-signs-sanctions-bill-1576925827?amp=true&__twitter_impression=true
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Trench,
Tell us about the Gas pipe that crosses under the Black Sea and via Turkey and Bulgaria that means Gazprom don't have to pay transit fees to Ukraine for 13 billion cubic metres ...?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-08/russia-opens-natural-gas-link-to-turkey-amid-u-s-opposition (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-08/russia-opens-natural-gas-link-to-turkey-amid-u-s-opposition)
Google failed you as you THOUGHT you knew !
Mind you there'll soon be another pipeline delivering Azerbaijan's gas to GR., Italy etc.,
Turkey is be the new Ukraine re being a key nation re transiting gas routes and distribution...
Turkey and RU need to remain fwends
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International investigation into Ukraine war crimes
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/international-investigation-into-ukraine-war-crimes-is-kremlins-worst-nightmare/
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I am sure the women of Luhansk are grateful that Putin saved them from my advances. :wallbash:
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So yes following on from comments on the other thread it seems that an invasion force may be building on Ukraines border and who knows an invasion may be imminent:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/02/biden-calls-ukrainian-president-show-support-amid-russia-military/amp/
Fortunately Biden has made a 'phone call' so I'm sure all will be fine lol.
We've been here a year or two back when it looked like Russian tanks might start rolling down Kiev's city roads. So who knows if anything will come of it this time.
This time the virus will have seen of most foreigners from Ukraine so not as much chance they'll be caught up in the cross fire and so provoke further outcry from the west. The Russian economy I hear is soon to go into deficit so maybe a take over of Ukraine will provide the resources it needs. Historically Russia no doubt sees Ukraine as part of its territory and indeed it's history. I would be surprised if Russia would just amass tanks and troops at its border without reason as it must cost a lot of money & bother to organise it all and if for no reason?
I think Biden is seen as weaker than Trump so Putin may be a bit opportunist here. It would be a pain for Ukraine to go as then I would have to pay for a visa so I'm just sitting tight and hoping all will be well :)
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An estimated 4,000 Russian troops have been deployed to the border with Ukraine, according to the New York Times, citing an unnamed U.S. official. The paper also reported that in response to the troop buildup, the U.S. military’s European Command has raised its alert level to its highest setting — “potential imminent crisis.”
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Thursday that 20 Ukrainian servicemen have been killed so far in 2021 — including four earlier this week in the deadliest single confrontation for months — and another 57 injured.
Four Ukrainian servicemen were killed and seven injured in fighting earlier this week, the most deadly military incident in the conflict so far this year.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/04/02/ukraine-says-russia-massing-troops-on-border-us-warns-moscow-a73448
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/04/02/explainer-why-are-tensions-between-russia-and-ukraine-ratcheting-up-a73457
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An estimated 4,000 Russian troops have been deployed to the border with Ukraine, according to the New York Times, citing an unnamed U.S. official. The paper also reported that in response to the troop buildup, the U.S. military’s European Command has raised its alert level to its highest setting — “potential imminent crisis.”
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Thursday that 20 Ukrainian servicemen have been killed so far in 2021 — including four earlier this week in the deadliest single confrontation for months — and another 57 injured.
Four Ukrainian servicemen were killed and seven injured in fighting earlier this week, the most deadly military incident in the conflict so far this year.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/04/02/ukraine-says-russia-massing-troops-on-border-us-warns-moscow-a73448
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/04/02/explainer-why-are-tensions-between-russia-and-ukraine-ratcheting-up-a73457
You mean the Moscow Times not New York Times ;)
I read that but think they'll be wanting to go in with way more than 4,000 troops so I reckon that's either an early build up figure or inaccurate as from Moscow.
This article in the Mirror seems to give a pretty good idea of how it's likely to go down:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/fears-grow-war-month-after-23847274.amp
So they reckon by around early May it'll all be in position attacking from the Black Sea, Normandy landing style to hit Ukraine in the South and thereby avoid the risk of getting their forces hemmed in and stuck moving up the narrow Crimean peninsula. At the same time they'll move in from the North of Ukraine to get behind Ukrainian forces fighting in the East of Ukraine, cut them off and surround them. They could also try to move up the Crimean peninsula and push forward in the Donbass also if they find they need to put extra pressure on Ukrainian forces.
My guess is that by now Kherson girl is deeply regretting not getting with Yours truly as who knows how badly the Ukrainian people may fair in all off this.
The article speculates whether this may escalate into a pan European or World War. I personally doubt it, I think if the invasion goes ahead Ukrainians will be left to their fate. I can't see Biden getting involved nor the EU. Ukraine is not a member of the EU nor NATO so they'll likely duck out of it. Now that Ukraine is becoming surrounded the only route for help to come will be through the EU/western Ukraine and I very much doubt they'll get any help there. At most the response will very likely be more Sanctions on Russia and Russia will take Ukraine. It's generally the most logical thing to do. I think Russia mainly sees taking Ukraine as taking back it's historical territory. I don't think they'll try it on with EU member states. Possibly Georgia may come after, Belarus is pretty much in their pocket anyway so that will be about it I reckon.
Whether this will mean a new iron curtain and an end to us western guys going to the FSU for women who knows, could be in jeopardy it's looking.
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This news article takes a different view arguing that it is more to put pressure on Ukraine, the US, etc and to test US resolve to see if they will back Ukraine much or leave it to it's own devices:
http://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/ukraine-does-not-expect-russian-attack-in-donbas/2197483#
I'm not so sure, it may be a little uncertain how far the US, NATO and the west may back Ukraine but I believe Krimster was right when he said the last military manoeuvres were to test reaction of Ukraine, etc. This time I doubt it unless they are going to come back later for a third time but this time seems as good an opportunity as any. The virus will keep a lot of foreigners away including flights etc plus it means Ukraine is weaker because of it at the moment. It also means because of lockdown most people will be indoors anyway so potentially less civilian risk to life as essentially Putin will still want a functioning populated area.
I think whatever is said in the west at the end of the day won't amount to real support on the ground. Only western troops being moved into Ukraine would support any real intention to help Ukraine in my opinion and I don't see that happening. If it did Russia would have to decide whether it would attack and almost certainly spark a pan European or World War conflict or leave it be. I think he would be more likely to leave it be in that case but I don't think the west will want to risk being drawn into a major conflict by posting troops to Ukraine.
In fairness to be honest I don't think Ukraine is worth risking a pan-European or World War over, territory changes hand all the time throughout history but the places and the land remain. It would be a shame for us guys to see Ukraine go as a country but I don't think it's worth a World War or similar over, the loss of human life would be too high a price to pay for that I believe. We would just have to come to accept that things may be different there in future I believe.
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In fairness to be honest I don't think Ukraine is worth risking a pan-European or World War over, territory changes hand all the time throughout history but the places and the land remain. It would be a shame for us guys to see Ukraine go as a country but I don't think it's worth a World War or similar over, the loss of human life would be too high a price to pay for that I believe. We would just have to come to accept that things may be different there in future I believe.
Russia probably has the same opinion. With Crimea they have their Black Sea port, which is the main thing they need to keep.The rest of the country would mainly be a burden on about al resources.
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Russia probably has the same opinion. With Crimea they have their Black Sea port, which is the main thing they need to keep.The rest of the country would mainly be a burden on about al resources.
I'm not so sure, if they took Ukraine it would give them a more direct route to Crimea. On a resources side of thing the East of Ukraine is more industrial, coal in the disputed region, tank factory around Kharkiv and Shipbuilding and sea trade routes around Nikoleav, Kherson & Mariupol. The west of Ukraine is agricultural so of some use but is likely where most resistance would grow up in the form of freedom fighting terrorist style of group.
Personally I would like to see Ukraine remain but it looks possible that Putin may invade particularly if no foreign power comes to Ukraine's aid. Ukraine is kind of hanging out there a bit as it's not in the EU nor NATO. I personally don't like the idea of it joining the EU as the EU tends to make countries dry boring places by getting them to follow all their many rules. On the other hand Ukraine is kind of exposed by itself. Georgia is about the only other country in Ukraine's position and in itself is too small & weak to offer Ukraine any meaningful help. It's why I think all of the breakaway republics should have formed their own separate Union/Organisation when they broke away from Russia/Soviet Union in the first place I think.
Anyway, will probably just have to wait and see what developments happen I guess.
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I think if there is a large invasion of Ukraine by uniformed regular Russian Army personnel, there will develop a very large non-military resistance force that will inflict substantial pain on the Russian soldiers.
Over time, that pain may become too large for the Russian public to accept it.
Now just why this resistance did not develop in Crimea . . . I don't have a good answer other than fact that well over half of Crimea was populated by ethnic Russian folks.
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I'm not so sure, if they took Ukraine it would give them a more direct route to Crimea. On a resources side of thing the East of Ukraine is more industrial, coal in the disputed region, tank factory around Kharkiv and Shipbuilding and sea trade routes around Nikoleav, Kherson & Mariupol. The west of Ukraine is agricultural so of some use but is likely where most resistance would grow up in the form of freedom fighting terrorist style of group.
As Ukraininan politicians have been ore interested in filling their pockets than developing their country, anything there is outdated and would need large investments to get up to date.Russia would not put in effort to get a possible war conflict for a country that has little to offer and would at least partially remain rebellious.
As for Ukraine joining the EU, it will be a long time. Only when country like Bulgaria and Romania and the Baltcs have their population up to a higher standard new cheap labour will be needed. At that time a country like Ukraine would be the new source of cheap laour.
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As Ukraininan politicians have been ore interested in filling their pockets than developing their country, anything there is outdated and would need large investments to get up to date.Russia would not put in effort to get a possible war conflict for a country that has little to offer and would at least partially remain rebellious.
As for Ukraine joining the EU, it will be a long time. Only when country like Bulgaria and Romania and the Baltcs have their population up to a higher standard new cheap labour will be needed. At that time a country like Ukraine would be the new source of cheap laour.
Some good points Shadow. Difficult to judge Putin's motives some have suggested it could be more political to do with Russian elections:
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/is-putin-about-to-launch-a-new-offensive-in-ukraine/
Though I always thought they rigged them anyway. Ambition could be more territorial than economic, to look more powerful and retake strategic Black Sea ports (other than Crimea which I believe allowed them to base their fleet there prior to takeover). I think as far as the economy goes there's probably not much in it either way. Putin would almost certainly be hit by harder sanctions. On the flip side Ukraine still has some resources worthwhile but like you say they would require investment to make them worthwhile.
Russian Elections are on the 19 September 2021 so for it to help Putin out in anyway some sort of military victory would be needed before then. I think it's too early for posturing to beef up support for the elections as after months of it they would see Putin and his allies in Parliament as just full of it with no real action. So there could be a high chance of action occuring but to what extent who knows.
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I think if there is a large invasion of Ukraine by uniformed regular Russian Army personnel, there will develop a very large non-military resistance force that will inflict substantial pain on the Russian soldiers.
Over time, that pain may become too large for the Russian public to accept it.
Now just why this resistance did not develop in Crimea . . . I don't have a good answer other than fact that well over half of Crimea was populated by ethnic Russian folks.
I think it could indeed end up another Afghanistan but only if Putin tries to take the whole country. Most of the East of Ukraine was pro-Russian, Russian speaking maybe even many ethnic Russians. So there maybe less so, my guess is that it would mostly come from the west, Lviv, Odessa and probably including up to Kiev.
Putin could just try and take the Donbass Region in despute and claim it's to protect Russian citizens there, etc, etc, excuse, excuse. He would unlikely get any real internal resistance in that territory. He could try to take a bit more such as Mariupol, Kharkiv where our Japs is or even further to try to link territory up to the north of Crimea.
I think the fact that they have bothered to spend millions building a bridge from current Russian territory to Crimea might suggest that is less likely as why bother to go to that trouble unless plan changes over the years.
My guess is that he may just try to take the disputed territory and possibly a bit more such as Kharkiv & Mariupol as they are right near it so could be deemed to be disputed also. That way Putin will likely avoid a larger conflict and long term resistance forces by just confining himself to this area. Once Ukraine's forces are defeated/gives up the fight the situation he will see as sorted and another election victory for his party. As they say he seems to favour small quick wars to help electoral success.
By taking the disputed region it will make the territory both Ukraine & Russia hold a more compact front on which to base their armies.
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Well, a lot of DIY stores around where I am were selling out of sand and cement over this Easter weekend. Could be people constructing Nuclear fallout shelters in case this Russian/Ukraine thing goes that way. Krim could have been right all along with an inside track on it all. Putin is an old KGB guy, cold & calculating and probably still wants to win the cold war, this he may see as his final moment to do so. At his age he probably wouldn't care if the while world went nuclear.
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Well, a lot of DIY stores around where I am were selling out of sand and cement over this Easter weekend. Could be people constructing Nuclear fallout shelters in case this Russian/Ukraine thing goes that way. Krim could have been right all along with an inside track on it all. Putin is an old KGB guy, cold & calculating and probably still wants to win the cold war, this he may see as his final moment to do so. At his age he probably wouldn't care if the while world went nuclear.
I see that Putin and Biden had a good talk. People in fear will band together and forget their differences.That was the main target of the Cold War.
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I see that Putin and Biden had a good talk. People in fear will band together and forget their differences.That was the main target of the Cold War.
Looks like so far the US, UK and EU are just offering their support without anything more tangible than words of comfort.
http://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/05/eu-sounds-alarm-at-russian-troops-ukraine-border-moves
This report states that artillery has been moved from as far away as Siberia and that the build up and manoeuvres are not in line with the usual type of troop rotations.
I guess in about a months time we'll see what Putin is after.
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Latest news is that Russia may actually be far more advanced along its preparations to invade Ukraine than thought with an invasion possibly coming within days!!!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/russia-ukraine-crisis-could-explode-23879639.amp
Stands to reason as the best time for them to be ready to attack is at the beginning off Spring as soon as the worst of the cold weather is out the way. That gives them maximum time to succeed in an invasion before Winter when the weather might make it harder. So gives most time in case of any unforeseen set backs. Scale and logistical bother make it look like Putin is serious about invading Ukraine and so a high likelihood he isn't bluffing.
Highly doubtful that western nations reassuring words will be backed up with military forces for Ukraine.
In any case Ukraine will need far more than a few plane fills of British paratroopers to make any difference, either that or they were really just sex tourists dressed up to parachute into Ukraine after too long without women ;D
Ukraine has apparently called up all its reserves but they'll likely pale in comparison to the numeracy of the Russian forces not least to say of the huge Russian hardware amassing at the border.
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Most successful Russian operations were in winter, as no Western military is trained to survive that long time.As for invasion plans, I guess some attempt to turn the people away from their COVID induced misery.
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Biden doesn't have the support of many Americans and is a weak President. Europe won't do anything without America. I'm not surprised Russia and China feel this is a great time for expansion.
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Biden doesn't have the support of many Americans . . . .
Even excluding voting fraud . . . Joe has the voting support of 70-80 million Americans.
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There's different levels of support. In my younger days I would join the military for my country's benefit regardless if a Democrat or Republican was president. I not only think Biden is illegit, our government is also corrupt at many levels and on both sides of the political fence. I would not join the military to fight a war Biden engages in. China and Russia understand we are more split than ever. Politicians are not interested in uniting us. They certainly won't ask us to accept a court process with a jury of 12 citizens to prevent riots. Russia, China and the Democrats want to divide and conquer us. It's not going to happen overnight but it's started.
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Biden doesn't have the support of many Americans and is a weak President. Europe won't do anything without America. I'm not surprised Russia and China feel this is a great time for expansion.
I agree that Europe won't do anything without the US. The UK's army is too small to stand up to Russia's army for long so I don't see us deploying there by ourselves. It's only our nukes that keep the Russians off our soil. I don't see any mainland European army deploying there either. It would take several European nations to put up a credible force and I don't see the co-ordination or will to do that. End of the day whatever goes down in Ukraine European nations will just be glad it's not happening in their soil nor need to get involved.
Biden has to realise that he's back in the old cold war situation where he needs to counter Russia (and China) or lose allies and influence one by one. I don't get the impression he has quite fallen in yet and will likely stand helpless on the sidelines on this one.
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Most successful Russian operations were in winter, as no Western military is trained to survive that long time.As for invasion plans, I guess some attempt to turn the people away from their COVID induced misery.
Weather is not a huge factor in that particular region.
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Efforts to resolve the long-running war in Eastern Ukraine have all so far failed.
There have been ceasefires, and then, almost inevitably, violations of ceasefires.
But a major flare up in fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian troops is now threatening to escalate the conflict beyond anything we've seen so far.
Russia is reportedly massing its troops at the border and warning NATO not to send military support to Ukraine.
But the alliance - and the United States - have made it clear Kiev will not be left alone if Russia launches an offensive in the region.
http://youtu.be/AJVraYmfosY
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Efforts to resolve the long-running war in Eastern Ukraine have all so far failed.
There have been ceasefires, and then, almost inevitably, violations of ceasefires.
But a major flare up in fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian troops is now threatening to escalate the conflict beyond anything we've seen so far.
Russia is reportedly massing its troops at the border and warning NATO not to send military support to Ukraine.
But the alliance - and the United States - have made it clear Kiev will not be left alone if Russia launches an offensive in the region.
http://youtu.be/AJVraYmfosY
Putin is making this statement as he is 'hopeing' that NATO troops won't be sent. If the west makes it clear that they are sending in NATO troops then that would thwart his plans. So his warning is a bluff, to us in the west it really means 'send in NATO troops' as if we go along with what Putin 'warns' then he'll get what he wants and invade Ukraine. Right now I can't see the west actually putting troops on the ground though. Time is one one issue as we would have to move any NATO troops stationed in Europe there another is will to do anything like that which I think most western leaders are lacking, this giving Putin a free hand.
Quickest stop gap support would be to send in lots off hand held anti-tank & anti-plane gear, rocket launchers or similar. A lot of local resistance using this gear could strike heavy losses on the Russians but equally would make the Russians pound civilian areas where these resistance fighters would be holed up.
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http://youtu.be/5884ceMgZE0
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Don't they do build ups every year or so ?
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http://youtu.be/5884ceMgZE0
That's a huge amount of tanks Grumpy, my guess is that they would easily swamp Ukraine's army and they would be utterly annihilated. Only a big army force moving in to support Ukraine's is likely to be able to possibly counter that sort of enormity of forces and I don't think such a force will be able to mobilize in time.
If Russia is seeking to attack then I think the only chance Ukraine has got is to get another country or two on board who will actually be willing to put troops on the ground as quick as they can then hope that ours the Russians off in terms of them not wanting to strike against other countries in the process of invading Ukraine. Either that or Ukrainians just hope the Russia will leave them with the bulk of their country if they invade. I still reckon that Ukrainians themselves would be best of with hand held rocket launcher type of stuff using hit & run type of tactics.
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Don't they do build ups every year or so ?
They usually do a big war games thing in Late Summer
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"Some of the Russian military moves have a long-term feel. Russian troops and military hardware are at a recently constructed camp near Voronezh, about 155 miles from the Ukrainian border, according to the Moscow-based Conflict Intelligence Team, which monitors Russia’s military and security services.
Russia is also relocating the 56th Guards Air Assault Brigade to Feodosia in Crimea."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-ukraine-military-biden-donbas/2021/04/09/99859490-96d3-11eb-8f0a-3384cf4fb399_story.html
I would be very careful where I visited in Russia. Too easy to inadvertently witness a troop movement and get accused of spying.
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They usually do a big war games thing in Late Summer
A must see event for tourists surely :D
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A more banal explanation is that Moscow is pressurising Kiev to break the stalemate in the so-called Minsk peace process – after the latest Donbas ceasefire collapsed. Putin enjoyed a big, but fleeting, ratings boost after Crimea’s annexation. Last month, he used a lavish televised rally marking its seventh anniversary to recapture lost popularity.
It seems he failed. Russians are preoccupied with the coronavirus pandemic (and the incompetent official response), falling incomes, and a worsening socio-economic outlook. More than ever, Putin’s Soviet empire restoration project appears irrelevant, especially to younger people.
Putin is under fire at home from supporters of the much-persecuted opposition activist, Alexei Navalny, and over corruption allegations. Only 32% of Russians trust their president, according to a recent Levada Center poll. Seen this way, the Ukraine build-up looks like a calculated distraction for domestic political purposes.
Yet Putin may also be deliberately testing US and European resolve. He will not have forgotten how George W Bush pledged undying support to Georgia’s newly democratic government in 2005, then ducked out when war erupted with Russia in 2008.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/11/china-v-russia-v-america-is-2021-the-year-orwells-1984-comes-true
"Politicians are like prostitutes, they go with whoever pays the most money."
Donetsk separatist fighter
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But the alliance - and the United States - have made it clear Kiev will not be left alone if Russia launches an offensive in the region.
Before the 2016 election, Trump said Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine if he was President. Did Biden recently say something to that effect? Russia and China wants more real estate. The question is when is the best time to get this real estate and it's best they do it at the same time. Both Russia and China has bribed Biden and family and have compromising video and photo evidence of their crimes. They expect Biden to be soft against anything they do.
Don't they do build ups every year or so ?
Sometimes it's training exercises, sometimes is saber rattling, and sometimes it'll turn into a Crimea/Eastern Ukraine. When an invasion sized force is sitting next door to a border, it make those living on the other side of the border nervous. Putin knows very what it does to people when you point a loaded gun to their heads.
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Russian Armed Force is reportedly deploying its Iskander (NATO Reporting name: SS-26 Stone) missile systems with R-500 extended-range ground-launched cruise missiles in areas near Voronezh, which’s 250 kilometers away from the border with Ukraine’s Kharkiv and Luhansk regions.
Iskander-K is the latest variant in the Iskander series of missiles. The missile system is equipped with two types (9M728 and 9M729) of extended-range ground-launched cruise missiles.
Russia says that the Iskander cruise missile has a range of just less than 300 miles, at the same time, military analysts stressed that they can have a range of more than 3000 km similar to ship-based Caliber- analog.
Russian official sources claim that the R-500 missile carries a conventional 500 kg warhead or nuclear warhead with a yield of around 10-50 kT. It is likely that there are several different conventional warheads, including cluster, fuel-air explosive, and bunker-busting. The missile can overcome enemy air defense systems while offering high-probability of failure-free operation in countermeasures environments. It has a target accuracy of 5m to 7m and operates even in fog or low visibility.
http://defence-blog.com/news/army/russia-deploys-iskander-systems-with-extended-range-missiles-to-ukrainian-border.html
The Russian Navy is sending 10 vessels, a mixture of landing craft and small gunboats, from its Caspian Sea Flotilla to the Black Sea. The deployment is ostensibly part of a larger series of readiness drills, but comes amid a continuing and worrisome Russian military buildup near the country's borders with Ukraine.
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40103/russian-gunboats-head-to-the-black-sea-to-join-troop-buildup-near-ukraine
Yesterday, the U.S. Air Force also sent two B-1B bombers from Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota on a long-range, round-trip mission to the Aegean Sea, just south of the waterway leading into the Black Sea. The ostensible reason for these sorties was to “showcase the U.S. commitment to European security," which would seem to be related, at least in part, to the situation developing along the Russia-Ukraine border. It's also worth noting that the Air Force previously disclosed that a mission that B-1Bs conducted in the Black Sea region last year effectively saw those aircraft train to decapitate Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
Two US destroyers are deploying to the Black Sea.
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40118/turkey-confirms-u-s-destroyers-are-headed-for-the-black-sea-amid-russia-ukraine-crisis
Links to several more interesting reports on those pages.
Given the amounts of nuclear capable weaponry being amassed in the region, how long will it be before the Don Bass is turned into a radioactive wasteland?
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Yesterday, the U.S. Air Force also sent two B-1B bombers from Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota on a long-range, round-trip mission to the Aegean Sea, just south of the waterway leading into the Black Sea. The ostensible reason for these sorties was to “showcase the U.S. commitment to European security," which would seem to be related, at least in part, to the situation developing along the Russia-Ukraine border. It's also worth noting that the Air Force previously disclosed that a mission that B-1Bs conducted in the Black Sea region last year effectively saw those aircraft train to decapitate Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
Before the US Air Force sends high value bombers in a war zone, they need to achieve air superiority. To achieve that we need to shoot down every Russian jet and bomb every radar and anti aircraft battery on the ground. Putin knows nobody in our government is going to do that. If he goes after more land, the punishment he'll get is sanctions.
Another option is Biden can loan Ukraine some voting machines and help with their elections promising Putin he will get the puppet he wants to run Ukraine next election in exchange for backing down.
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I think you're right Billy, sanctions would work more expedient than a much more costly war situation with Russia. Some suggest that all this troop build up is Putin trying to get present sanctions dropped and to stop Ukraine's military engaging in a new stronger offensive into the Donbass. Biden has punted forward a Summit with Putin and he has agreed apparently so could be something to that.
Meanwhile, preparations for an invasion continue at pace:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/russia-invasion-ukraine-war-assault-vehicles-troops-b929750.html?amp
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http://www.reuters.com/resizer/juROOWHHMd49Co01goaDDpmRIug=/960x0/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/APVF6YCFKZM5BAUBVBOSXDJF4M.jpg
http://static.politico.com/dims4/default/998f4ba/2147483647/resize/1160x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fd3%2F72%2F5d2fa8fa4b7dae0f0e32881f090e%2F6598296.jpg
The Pentagon has scrapped a potential Black Sea transit by two Navy destroyers this week due to concerns about escalating tensions between Russia and Ukraine, according to two U.S. officials familiar with the plans.
Earlier this month, the Navy notified Turkey, which manages traffic through the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits leading to the Black Sea under the 1936 Montreux Convention, that they were tentatively planning a routine transit by the two destroyers, according to a U.S. defense official.
U.S. officials note that President Joe Biden has repeatedly reaffirmed Washington’s commitment to Ukraine’s territorial integrity and recently approved an additional $125 million worth of lethal aid to help the country defend its borders, including two armed patrol boats and counter-artillery radar.
And NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said Wednesday during a joint press conference with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken that the organization has increased its military presence in the Black Sea region, including with additional air policing and naval presence.
“We are committed to assisting Ukraine with its self-defense needs,” he said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-usa-turkey-russia-int/u-s-cancels-warships-deployment-to-black-sea-turkish-diplomatic-sources-idUSKBN2C12U3
http://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/15/us-navy-ukraine-russia-tensions-481897
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I would warn against going to Ukraine for the time being . I am relocating, I just stayed for my tattoos , but now things are getting tense in Ukraine . There is also a new strain of Corona , so if you don't get bombed by Russia , maybe Corona will kill you instead .
Honestly , in my opinion, people are better off going to Russia . My experiences in Russia has always been better , more friendly to foreigners , less scam attempts , more genuine connections .
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I would warn against going to Ukraine for the time being . I am relocating, I just stayed for my tattoos , but now things are getting tense in Ukraine . There is also a new strain of Corona , so if you don't get bombed by Russia , maybe Corona will kill you instead .
Honestly , in my opinion, people are better off going to Russia . My experiences in Russia has always been better , more friendly to foreigners , less scam attempts , more genuine connections .
Siberia or the far northern cities, maybe. I may be a bit paranoid, I worry about being in the wrong place at the wrong time as chess master Putin moves his military around. Diplomats and other staff being kicked out of, or arrested in several countries. Do you want to be accused of espionage and held in an exchange deal for Boris Badov? Western Ukraine or Moldova might be safer.
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I would warn against going to Ukraine for the time being . I am relocating, I just stayed for my tattoos , but now things are getting tense in Ukraine . There is also a new strain of Corona , so if you don't get bombed by Russia , maybe Corona will kill you instead .
Honestly , in my opinion, people are better off going to Russia . My experiences in Russia has always been better , more friendly to foreigners , less scam attempts , more genuine connections .
What about your girl Japs? Are you still with her?
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Why we keep sticking our neck into other peoples problem is simply beyond me. Ukraine is not a NATO member, and if the EU is so desperate to establish a new source of commerce, let them stick their own kids for a change. Sheeesh.
A Democrat gets into office, and here we go again. Ukraine was a mess during Obama’s admin, it stop being a US mess the last 4 years, then less than a year of another Democratic president, here comes that mess again.
Can you folks now understand that ‘we’ really didn’t have anything to do with that silly civil war of 2014?
Right! 🙄
http://youtu.be/XM62PIYYGFs
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Siberia or the far northern cities, maybe. I may be a bit paranoid, I worry about being in the wrong place at the wrong time as chess master Putin moves his military around. Diplomats and other staff being kicked out of, or arrested in several countries. Do you want to be accused of espionage and held in an exchange deal for Boris Badov? Western Ukraine or Moldova might be safer.
Not paranoi, everything that can go wrong, will one day go wrong. People weigh out the risks, and the severity of being wrong. Low chance of Ukraine being turned into Russia's warzone vs the West, but there is a risk. Me and the GF are positioning ourselves away from the conflict, to give us time to go if things turn south . More chance of Russia bombing people than being accused of being a spy, but there are mercenaries in the East of ukraine, western solider ready to act when told to.
I have no idea why Russia wants to take more of ukraine,and aggravate the west. Ukrainians just want to be left alone, out of Russia's reach. I been all over ukraine, all share the same view. But Russia likes to post on their news outlets that Ukrainians are destroying their own country, and Russians buy what the media tells them.
It is a very sad situation, but everyone thinks they are ready to fight, until they get punched in the face. Russia and China won't last vs USA and the rest of the West. Even USA itself can handle the two of those countries, if it came out to an all out war.
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Russia and China won't last vs USA and the rest of the West. Even USA itself can handle the two of those countries, if it came out to an all out war.
Are you talking about the same country that lost the war to tiny North Viet Nam?
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As we likely all know by now Russia is pulling it's troops back from Ukraine's border:
BBC News - Russia to pull troops back from near Ukraine
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56842763
Nothing to stop him moving them back at a moment's notice though seems to be a lot of bother to do all of that for not much reason not to mention the cost, could even be a ruse before an invasion to take Ukraine off guard, we shall see I guess.
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Are you talking about the same country that lost the war to tiny North Viet Nam?
If it is a war of soldiers/tanks vs soldiers/tanks, then yes. If it is a war based on a formulae, won't lat long. Remember what america did with a formulae e=mc^2, made a nuke? There is anti matter bombs (an example, but producing that much anti matter to make a blast is too expensive), just an example how science and formulaes can change everything, really quickly.
I am sure America have developed some weapons and defences that would wipe Russia and China out, they just don't show their cards. If people knew what weapons America had, they could reverse engineer on how to produce it. Better to keep it at bay, release it when needed.
We are in a different age, where things are becoming scientifically interesting. Get the science right, then there is no war, just a location that will be taken off the map.
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Russia said it may pull back troops from Ukrainian border because it has effectively demonstrated its ability to defend the Russian homeland.
This makes sense, since it was well known that Ukraine was preparing to invade Russia.
But Russia said it will keep all the heavy artillery in place to 'practice' firing later in the year.
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As a side note, before Russia signaled intent to pull back some troops:
I had received notice that I would be recalled to active duty (but in an undercover role) to help this invading Ukrainian force.
I would be provided a special mobile phone over which my wife would interpret between myself, the Ukrainian soldiers, and any captured Russian soldiers.
The Pentagon had determined (I don't know how) that she had fluency in English, Ukrainian and Russian languages.
I had inquired if I would receive extra hazardous duty pay . . . but hadn't received any info back yet.
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http://youtu.be/Ez_zvVZEbvw
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All internet connections to Ukraine currently are down. Rumours are there was an attempted coup, but there is no confirmation yet.
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WOW this jumped out at me as something very scary.
But my google search uncovered nothing.
Wife has talked to people in Ukraine via Skype all day as this is her birthday.
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I haven’t heard anything to suggest that.
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Have been online with folks I work with in UA all yesterday and today.
No issues noted.
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Well according to recent reports Russia's troops are on the move again. Putin is pulling tanks from Siberia in the direction of Ukraine apparently according to this article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10147369/Russian-westbound-gas-supply-Yamal-Europe-pipeline-comes-halt.html
Not sure what he's after this time or whether the oil pipelines will play a part. Seems a lot of fuss to keep moving troops on such a large scale around unless you intend to do something with them.
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Well according to recent reports Russia's troops are on the move again. Putin is pulling tanks from Siberia in the direction of Ukraine apparently according to this article:
Ooooopps . . . I guess he doesn't know that China poses a much bigger risk to Russia (in the long run) than Ukraine ever will.
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Ooooopps . . . I guess he doesn't know that China poses a much bigger risk to Russia (in the long run) than Ukraine ever will.
You could be right ML, China is a big military and economic power now right on Russia's doorstep. They may have a few common issues against the west but with Chiba getting so strong and Russia renewing it's military technology they could end up seeing each other as a threat.
Latest news on Ukraine & Russia's new military build up:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10156359/Ukrainian-President-Zelensky-corners-Biden-COP26-royal-reception-discuss-tensions-Russia.html
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Russia still has its build up of troops near Ukraine which is becoming a concern for the US:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10172613/Biden-sends-CIA-Director-Bill-Burns-Moscow-warn-Putin-building-troops-Ukraine-border.html
Apparently article states Ukraine has a problem with energy also. Guessing their gas and electricity supply is worse than ours.
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Looks like this could be it! Russia looks like it's sizing up to invade Ukraine, looking like it could really happen this time:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-brink-ukraine-invasion-thousands-25442398
With the virus, energy issues etc and now the Russkies amassing huge forces to invade Ukraine it looks like Ukrainians are really in for one hell of a winter. Probably best to avoid a trip out there at the moment. Looking like Krimster's predictions could be coming true.
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Russia has now sent paratroopers into Belarus,whilst we're now sending troops into Poland.
Looks like the build-ups in Eastern Europe are accelerating amid warnings from the USA and UK about Russian forces building up on the Ukraine border.
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Russia has now sent paratroopers into Belarus,whilst we're now sending troops into Poland.
Looks like the build-ups in Eastern Europe are accelerating amid warnings from the USA and UK about Russian forces building up on the Ukraine border.
Some think Putin is just making mischief. Belarus is unhappy at EU sanctions against it and is causing the migrant problem some say to get back at EU sanctions against it. The EU is looking to create an EU army with around 5,000 soldiers towards 2025 so that it can act independently abroad where it needs without the unanimous agreement if all member states. It's still got to go through the EU Member states for approval. I personally think it is too small and doesn't answer the problem the EU has in its border at home namely Russia. At the moment it's still NATO picking up the can and is of course this time. Belarus is threatening to cut gas supplies to Europe also.
So whether they are just staying all of this to get concessions who knows? Last time it was possibly about sanctions on the Baltic sea pipeline from Russia to Germany. It looked like it may have got them lifted. Don't know if this is all about getting sanctions on its neighbour Belarus lifted, seems a lot of bother for that.
It looks like Russia has cut some lines that can detect submarines from Norway:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10196799/Norwegian-undersea-surveillance-network-capable-detecting-submarines-cables-cut.html
Possibly they are gearing up for an Invasion of Ukraine to some extent. All depends on whether they make a move this time or another phoney war. Some say Russia has been left feeling humiliated and weak from its USSR days where it held a lot more territory and it wants some of that territory back. Others say that territory could be more of a burden on its economy than much of a help. I can't see them taking over large amounts of territory with NATO doing nothing though. Will have to wait and see if they actually make a move this time.
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15,000 Polish troops have been deployed to the border with Belarus....just 20 miles from where Russian Paratroopers landed.
8.500 Ukrainian troops have been deployed to the border with Russia.
USA Vice President Kamala Harris says the USA is" looking at the tools it has" after a day of rapid-fire developments.
Meanwhile UK fighter jets were scrambled to see off two Russian bombers close to the UK....again.
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The deployment of Polish troops is due to the migrant crisis Lukashenko has created.
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Harris has spoken with Macron and says "On the issue of Belarus and what is happening at the border with Poland we are very concerned about that and closely paying attention to it."
Pity she's not so concerned about the illegal migrants flooding into the UK....aided by Macron,with French warships filmed shadowing the migrants into UK waters.
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I don't think we'll have any concerns about Russian troops crossing into Poland, we've sent out 10 of our troops to Poland to see them off. I very much doubt they'll be able to top that.
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Brexit Britain taking full advantage of the situation in Ukraine to boost its Naval sales :D
http://news.sky.com/story/uk-signs-deal-to-help-boost-ukraines-navy-in-the-face-of-increased-threat-from-russia-12470490
More jobs and money brought into the country by this one :)
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President Zelensky is no longer the popular boy he once was with Ukrainians more interested in other matters than a pretty boy with a cheesy smile:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/a-covid-19-crisis-and-putins-war-push-ukraine-to-breaking-point
Covid still hitting Ukraine hard at the moment, Russian tanks on the border looking set to move in and of course colder temperatures now hitting Ukraine with gas being a problem to get hold off.
http://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/interview/analyst-eu-must-force-gazprom-to-supply-gas-to-russia-ukraine-border/
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Latest reports on the Russia/Ukraine situation. A Ukrainian General reckons Russia may invade around January time, plan your dating trips carefully guys ;D Can't think what Kherson girl would be thinking now with Russian tanks amassed on the border, from the article it looks like the Russians could come in from every which way!
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10229427/amp/Russia-preparing-INVADE-Ukraine-end-January-Kiev-General-warns.html
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She's probably thinking "Maybe I will meet a handsome young soldier. Thank goodness I didn't weigh myself down with that middle aged British idiot who thought buying me goods worth a day of wages should result in eternal gratitude."
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She's probably thinking "Maybe I will meet a handsome young soldier. Thank goodness I didn't weigh myself down with that middle aged British idiot who thought buying me goods worth a day of wages should result in eternal gratitude."
Lol, during WWII enemy soldiers invading into a country often meant that the local girls were going to be met with rape. I'm sure though we are living in more enlightened times now, perhaps.
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She's probably thinking "Maybe I will meet a handsome young soldier. Thank goodness I didn't weigh myself down with that middle aged British idiot who thought buying me goods worth a day of wages should result in eternal gratitude."
I'm sure all young women who's country is about to be invaded by another country think they may meet a handsome young soldier. :rolleyes:
German women were very well-treated by the invading Soviet forces weren't they ?
Estimates are that up to 2 million German women were raped by Soviet soldiers.
According to historian William Hitchcock many of the women were raped up to 60 or 70 times.
Let's hope the rapists were all young and handsome eh ? :rolleyes:
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There are Ukrainian soldiers as well.
First, I doubt rather highly that Russia is readying an invasion of Ukraine. Second, no matter what is stated, these peoples, other than in Western Ukraine, largely think of themselves as one.
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There are Ukrainian soldiers as well.
First, I doubt rather highly that Russia is readying an invasion of Ukraine. Second, no matter what is stated, these peoples, other than in Western Ukraine, largely think of themselves as one.
If there is an invasion Ukrainian soldiers will be too busy fighting for their lives to be interested in chasing a bit of totty.
Tanks rolling down toward you will be a bit of a passion killer.
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Stories from WWII suggest that's inaccurate. Plus, there isn't going to be an invasion.
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German women were very well-treated by the invading Soviet forces weren't they ?
Soviet forces 'invaded' Germany ???
Did USA forces also invade Germany ?
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Estimates are that up to 2 million German women were raped by Soviet soldiers.
What are the estimates of Soviet women raped by German soldiers earlier in the war ?
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German women suffered the largest mass rape in history ...this was from Soviet soldiiers...google it and read it for yourself.
SOVIET war correspondent Natalya Gesse said Soviet soldiers were raping females from eight to eighty.
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For what it's worth, I cant see an invasion happening. In fact it sounds absurd.
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It's not absurd. It is unlikely, but a decade ago, so was a Russian invasion of Crimea, and so was Russian backed forces shooting a European plane full of civilians out of the sky.
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It's not absurd. It is unlikely, but a decade ago, so was a Russian invasion of Crimea, and so was Russian backed forces shooting a European plane full of civilians out of the sky.
A couple of debatable things said above but without getting into those discussions again, I guess I’m saying that I’d bet my virtual house on an invasion, not happening.
Time will tell.
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British troops moving into Germany, looks like things are hotting up:
http://www.ft.com/content/1c56235e-dcc6-4505-851c-8e904b46339b
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/british-army-returns-to-germany-in-face-of-russian-threat-bhs7lmnsv
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Possible Russian dirty tricks going down in Ukraine:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10245811/amp/Russia-plotting-coup-Ukraine-December-Ukranian-president-makes-dramatic-speech.html
Might be the least bloodiest way out for them if it did go down.
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More news on further troop build up on Ukraine's border:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10279477/Ukraine-Russia-border-Satellite-images-reveal-Putins-troop-build-continues.html
They reckon early 2022 for an Invasion. What are the odds an Invasion might take place on New Year's Day or possibly even Christmas Day?
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An interesting article on the current state of affairs on the Ukrainian front line:
http://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/06/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-front.html
Looks like the sh*t could really hit the fan soon.
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It's now making headline news on both the BBC and Sky News...the general feeling seems to be the talks today between Biden and Putin haven't really de-escalated the situation.
Putin has made demands and was basically told to do one.
The Sky reporter in Washington reported that there WILL be NATO ( including USA ) military boots on the ground in Ukraine if Russia invades.It won't be the same situation as when Russian troops invaded Crimea,and all the west did was impose economic sanctions on Russia.
NATO troops will also build-up in former FSU countries such as Latvia.
USA is said to have an understanding with Germany that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline will be shut if Russia invades Ukraine.
Seems NATO has had a gutful of Putin's posturing.
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USA is said to have an understanding with Germany that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline will be shut if Russia invades Ukraine..
And here I thought Germany and some other European countries needed that gas.
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It's now making headline news on both the BBC and Sky News...the general feeling seems to be the talks today between Biden and Putin haven't really de-escalated the situation.
Putin has made demands and was basically told to do one.
The Sky reporter in Washington reported that there WILL be NATO ( including USA ) military boots on the ground in Ukraine if Russia invades.It won't be the same situation as when Russian troops invaded Crimea,and all the west did was impose economic sanctions on Russia.
NATO troops will also build-up in former FSU countries such as Latvia.
USA is said to have an understanding with Germany that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline will be shut if Russia invades Ukraine.
Seems NATO has had a gutful of Putin's posturing.
I'm not sure how many troops NATO has stationed out there but my guess is that it may well be too few to go up against Russia's army if it came to that. A few thousand troops scattered here and there isn't likely to be enough is my thinking. I reckon that the US, UK, etc need to mobilise and move a lot of troops over to form an army strong enough to stand a chance of stopping Russian troops. Otherwise they could either be sat watching on the sidelines in the EU or be wiped out by superior numbers.
My guess is that they really need to move into Ukraine in big numbers if not already (which I doubt) as otherwise Russia's army will likely easily overun Ukraine's without Ukraine inflicting enough damage. If that scenario goes down then pointlessly losing Ukraine's army may make winning all the harder.
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If that scenario goes down then pointlessly losing Ukraine's army may make winning all the harder.
The goal of the moment is to create instability, not to take Ukraine. The buildup cost Putin $130 million, but he can afford it. More debt borrowing for Ukraine.
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The Sky reporter in Washington reported that there WILL be NATO ( including USA ) military boots on the ground in Ukraine if Russia invades.
NATO, lol. Since when did Ukraine become a NATO member?
You get a democrat back at the WH, and here we are, and there goes Victoria Nuland back in Kiev continuing what ‘we’ (US) started in 2014.
I can only hope Biden’s dementia stays true to form and Hunter is too busy milking China’s cow so they won’t waste any American kids life anymore halfway around our globe. No blood for oil and all that talk, remember? Hell, if any, let antifa volunteer, even blm. Do an Obama move. Just keep the media out of it, and bomb the crap out of Russia and take over the country, Libya style. Oh wait, Russia have more guns than Libya. Lol.
Does no one even see the irony in this? For almost two years your politicians got most of you so scared of dying, they had you and your lot submit to an experimental soup injected in your bodies yet, in a moment’s whim and greed, they won’t hesitate to send you or your lot get your brains blown out fighting for their zany political gamesmanship.
If Europe wanna grab Ukraine’s market as their own, let them sacrifice their vaccinated kids for their politicians gain. Outside of the UK, I seriously doubt any of them have the fortitude stupidity to do so, LMAO.
Georgia is a much smaller nation than Ukraine, they stood up to Russia with no ones help, sheeesh. They got smoked but at least they are still a free country today. Me hopes they leave Ukraine alone. They wanna be free from Russia, let them fight for it. Let Georgia be their inspiration.
Plus remember what happened at the onset of the civil war, at their darkest moment when Ukraine soldiers desperately needed supplies like food, arms, accessories, etc. The US sent them things like MREs, night vision goggles, etc. Guess what happened to them? Yup, it hit the black market. That should clearly tell you what you’re dealing with.
Besides, the reality is, trying to help and save Ukraine from Russia only renders Ukraine ripe for China. Out…fire…frying pan. I mean look at the case with Italy. Italy is now merely renting their country from its new landlord - China. In some ways, the US is heading in the same direction. Give Hunter some time and we can be there in no time at all.
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Besides, the reality is, trying to help and save Ukraine from Russia only renders Ukraine ripe for China. Out…fire…frying pan. I mean look at the case with Italy. Italy is now merely renting their country from its new landlord - China. In some ways, the US is heading in the same direction. Give Hunter some time and we can be there in no time at all.
I haven't been keeping track. In what way does china own so much of Italy?
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NATO, lol. Since when did Ukraine become a NATO member?
You get a democrat back at the WH, and here we are, and there goes Victoria Nuland back in Kiev continuing what ‘we’ (US) started in 2014.
I'm not sure what we really have to offer Ukraine. "Made in China" goods, that enrich mostly china with a little cut to the US companies. Of course I have read that we are threatening the nord stream 2 if russia makes one false move. That way we can get back to selling our expensive natural resources to europe.
Fathertime!
Fathertime!
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I'm not sure what we really have to offer Ukraine. "Made in China" goods, that enrich mostly china with a little cut to the US companies. Of course I have read that we are threatening the nord stream 2 if russia makes one false move. That way we can get back to selling our expensive natural resources to europe.
Fathertime!
Fathertime!
None. Who said we have anything to offer Ukraine other than be a Russian PITA? The same way Russia made CUBA one for us.
But China can certainly chomp at the bits. Not too many places in the world that is as arable as Ukraine. Perfect place to harvest their love of their scared tofu, and raise pigs. Ever had the delicious Tofu with Pork? Yum, baby! China already owns 13 million hectare of Ukraine's farm land. That's literally 9% of Ukraine's farmland, LMAO. This way they won't have to rely on the US & Brazil for soy imports. It'll be cheaper in Ukraine, and with another 40+ million consumer to buy Chinese goods - win, win baby.
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China already owns 13 million hectare of Ukraine's farm land. That's literally 9% of Ukraine's farmland, LMAO.
Are you sure of this ?
I think lease rather than own as Ukraine still has prohibition against foreign ownership of farm land.
Even just today over breakfast wifey was telling of her concern about her inheritance of farm land when her parents pass away given her USA citizenship. But if Ukraine gets around to overturning their law against dual citizenship, she will be in the clear.
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Are you sure of this ?
I think lease rather than own as Ukraine still has prohibition against foreign ownership of farm land.
Even just today over breakfast wifey was telling of her concern about her inheritance of farm land when her parents pass away given her USA citizenship. But if Ukraine gets around to overturning their law against dual citizenship, she will be in the clear.
It probably depends on whom you ask. Ukraine will likely tell you the deal was a 50-year lease. For China, OTOH, it's an outright ownership, as in 'it's bought' and paid for. Then there's the missing *000*s. China believes its 3,000,000 hectare, while Ukraine (KSG Agro) insists it's a mere 3,000.
:P
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-disputed-deal-to-farm-5-of-the-ukraine-2013-9 (http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-disputed-deal-to-farm-5-of-the-ukraine-2013-9)
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1314902/ukraine-become-chinas-largest-overseas-farmer-3m-hectare-deal?module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article&campaign=1314902 (http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1314902/ukraine-become-chinas-largest-overseas-farmer-3m-hectare-deal?module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article&campaign=1314902)
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/china-claims-to-have-bought-a-huge-chunk-of-ukraine-41509/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
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It probably depends on whom you ask. Ukraine will likely tell you the deal was a 50-year lease. For China, OTOH, it's an outright ownership, as in 'it's bought' and paid for. Then there's the missing *000*s. China believes its 3,000,000 hectare, while Ukraine (KSG Agro) insists it's a mere 3,000.
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-disputed-deal-to-farm-5-of-the-ukraine-2013-9 (http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-disputed-deal-to-farm-5-of-the-ukraine-2013-9)
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1314902/ukraine-become-chinas-largest-overseas-farmer-3m-hectare-deal?module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article&campaign=1314902 (http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1314902/ukraine-become-chinas-largest-overseas-farmer-3m-hectare-deal?module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article&campaign=1314902)
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/china-claims-to-have-bought-a-huge-chunk-of-ukraine-41509/ (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/china-claims-to-have-bought-a-huge-chunk-of-ukraine-41509/)
By law, agricultural land in Ukraine can be leased, but not sold, to foreigners. In fact, even Ukrainian citizens could not own large tracts of land before July 1, 2021. The law was changed on that date to allow Ukrainians to own up to 100 hectares of land. Sales to foreigners are still prohibited, and the law can only be changed by referendum. So, the land is leased no matter what the Chinese say they believe.
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So it looks like it's all up this month or so on whether anything will happen about Ukraine:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-nato-prepares-for-possible-russian-invasion-as-diplomats-fear-talks-will-fail-12512624
If talks fail then who knows possibly some sort of invasion in February maybe. The article seems to think it may be a limited invasion, maybe they are thinking just into the Donbass. That however I think would show Russia as invading territory with its own troops and taking what is not theirs. Currently they have been fighting that war by proxy so that would be a hostile stance for just a small piece of territory likely provoking full scale sanctions and possibly a new cold war.
So if the stakes are high might Putin go for more, if he invades Donbass then Ukraine's military could likely see itself as facing no alternative but to take them on as best as possible. So possibly might Russia take the whole of eastern Ukraine or all of Ukraine?
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After a four hour meeting with Russians today..things are not looking good.
NATO's Secretary General Mr Stoltenberg said after talks had finished that there is a "real risk for a new armed conflict in Europe" but that the Alliance "will do what we can to prevent any such scenario ".
"If Russia once more uses force against Ukraine and further invades Ukraine then we have to seriously look into the need to further increase our presence in the eastern part of the Alliance."
Meanwhile there are reports that Russia has been flying Helicopters to the Ukrainian border to airlift troops into Ukraine after mild weather has transformed the normally rock-hard frozen ground at this time of year into a muddy quagmire in which the Russian Tanks cannot roll into Ukraine.
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After a four hour meeting with Russians today..things are not looking good.
NATO's Secretary General Mr Stoltenberg said after talks had finished that there is a "real risk for a new armed conflict in Europe" but that the Alliance "will do what we can to prevent any such scenario ".
"If Russia once more uses force against Ukraine and further invades Ukraine then we have to seriously look into the need to further increase our presence in the eastern part of the Alliance."
Meanwhile there are reports that Russia has been flying Helicopters to the Ukrainian border to airlift troops into Ukraine after mild weather has transformed the normally rock-hard frozen ground at this time of year into a muddy quagmire in which the Russian Tanks cannot roll into Ukraine.
Looks like Ukraine's luck is in with the mud CB. If Ukraine has any sense they'll try adding to it as best they can. It probably won't be enough to stop Russia's army but it may put them off if it looks like they will get an awkward time of it.
Looks like NATO is just threatening to load up troops on the bordering nations if Ukraine is invaded then and not intervene in Ukraine. I'm not sure that is going to be enough as it's more or less saying they are going to stand by on the side lines.
Mixed messages still coming if Russia will invade or not, NATO's position on the side lines seems pretty set now.
Possibly Russia may run out of steam in terms of moving towards an Invasion. Can't see there is much for Russia to gain now unless they really are intent on invading Ukraine, NATO isn't seeming ready to do deals or keep out the border states. My guess is if Russia's army stays put in the coming days/weeks then there may be a good chance they going to invade as otherwise they've nothing to gain by sitting there if they aren't getting anything from NATO.
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Thinking this through a bit more I reckon there could be pretty good chance Russia may invade. If Putin isn't going to get what he wants out of NATO then they've essentially called his bluff, if he is bluffing then he'll pull his troops away, that's going to cause him embarrassment though, possibly humiliation. In the summer he stuck more to the exercises excuse but this time he's been telling Ukraine/the west that they are there because of NATO's expansion as he see's it. If he backs down and pulls troops this time for the second time he's lost and that manoeuvre won't work again unless he really does invade. So it may push him towards invading, Ukraine is essentially there for the taking now that NATO says it is going to stand by, so it's just the Russian army against Ukraine's army. Ukraine's army probably won't last long on that score. They've got arms and training from the west in recent years so may cause Russia's army some damage but ultimately they're a lot weaker than Russia's army.
Possibly Russia may wait to see if the mud will dry but odds are they could invade pretty soon. That's not great for me of course as if Ukraine becomes Russian I'll need to pay for a visa to visit. Belarus is difficult & more expensive to get to so that leaves just Georgia, pretty religious apparently and the stans further away so more time and expense there.
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Thinking this through a bit more I reckon there could be pretty good chance Russia may invade. If Putin isn't going to get what he wants out of NATO then they've essentially called his bluff, if he is bluffing then he'll pull his troops away, that's going to cause him embarrassment though, possibly humiliation. In the summer he stuck more to the exercises excuse but this time he's been telling Ukraine/the west that they are there because of NATO's expansion as he see's it. If he backs down and pulls troops this time for the second time he's lost and that manoeuvre won't work again unless he really does invade. So it may push him towards invading, Ukraine is essentially there for the taking now that NATO says it is going to stand by, so it's just the Russian army against Ukraine's army. Ukraine's army probably won't last long on that score. They've got arms and training from the west in recent years so may cause Russia's army some damage but ultimately they're a lot weaker than Russia's army.
Possibly Russia may wait to see if the mud will dry but odds are they could invade pretty soon. That's not great for me of course as if Ukraine becomes Russian I'll need to pay for a visa to visit. Belarus is difficult & more expensive to get to so that leaves just Georgia, pretty religious apparently and the stans further away so more time and expense there.
Trench, stop thinking....
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Possibly Russia may wait to see if the mud will dry but odds are they could invade pretty soon. That's not great for me of course as if Ukraine becomes Russian I'll need to pay for a visa to visit. Belarus is difficult & more expensive to get to so that leaves just Georgia, pretty religious apparently and the stans further away so more time and expense there.
Have you thought about Serbia ?
English is widely spoken there.
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Have you thought about Serbia ?
English is widely spoken there.
Nope, that's a good thought of yours on the surface of it CB. Serbia aren't in the EU and if they speak English then a viable option. Only problem is on Fdate they are very few women on there, only two in the 29-39 age category, non smoker, without children and with photo, and they've been on there a fair number of days ago.
Main problem at the moment is that I'm running out of women who I see as possiblities in Ukraine and that is if continues to exist as Ukraine. You'd think that they would be cramming onto Fdate with an economy which must be wreaked now because of the virus and with the Russians knocking at their door staring oblivion in the face, but no.
I can see the possibility of girls of the former Eastern Bloc countries coming back onto the market in future years now that the UK have left the EU and with the EU now struggling with its debt:
http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-plans-to-tax-its-way-out-of-recovery-debt/
Poland, Hungary and recently even Romania have been having fall outs with the EU. I think that now the money is running out and what amounts as further corporate taxes rise by the EU plus the realisation that it could take decades to make inroads into paying off the debt well good chance they'll leave. Even if not the desire to get in with a UK guy & the UK may be a bit of a pull.
For me I'll chomp on with Ukraine & Fdate for the time being. Keep thinking off VK but never really been able to utilise that one for dating to date.
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If Russia takes ukraine by force, exactly how long until they take Belarus, czech rep,etc
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If Russia takes ukraine by force, exactly how long until they take Belarus, czech rep,etc
Think the idea at the moment is if Russia take Ukraine then NATO will immediately move up a lot of its forces to the border of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Moldova and the Baltic States with Russia. Belarus is close enough aligned to Russia for Putin to not be too concerned there.
That will bring a new Iron Curtain down with it just being shifted further west than the old one. Once Russia takes Ukraine they probably won't want to give it up by negotiating with NATO for it to pull back it's forces. NATO will say it's in response to Russian Invasion of Ukraine. Russia won't likely attack the new line drawn in the sand as NATO forces will already be there.
Odds are under such a scenario is that Finland will join NATO also since if Ukraine is taken they will fear being next with history being what it is.
NATO of course will be committed to defending along that new iron curtain otherwise the risk is being pushed however far back Russia wishes. Who will come of the winner of there is one in such an event who knows. Like I say unlikely I think at least. Russia going into Ukraine there could be a fair chance of that happening as said earlier to my mind at least.
If the talks break down Russia could see it as their issues have not been resolved over NATO expansion, etc and invade Ukraine. Could be the real thing this time. Not sure how Ukrainian girls on the ground feel about it. They'll be in the firing line unless they can refugee it in time over the border to the EU especially now they have reasonably easy tourist visa free access.
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Think the idea at the moment is if Russia take Ukraine then NATO will immediately move up a lot of its forces to the border of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Moldova and the Baltic States with Russia. Belarus is close enough aligned to Russia for Putin to not be too concerned there.
That will bring a new Iron Curtain down with it just being shifted further west than the old one. Once Russia takes Ukraine they probably won't want to give it up by negotiating with NATO for it to pull back it's forces. NATO will say it's in response to Russian Invasion of Ukraine. Russia won't likely attack the new line drawn in the sand as NATO forces will already be there.
I do not think Russia is going to do very much in Ukraine, let alone the rest of the nations you mentioned.
Fathertime!
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I do not think Russia is going to do very much in Ukraine, let alone the rest of the nations you mentioned.
Fathertime!
Well according to latest thinking they reckon Russia could invade within days!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10404745/Fears-grow-Vladimir-Putin-stage-fake-attacks-troops-justify-Russian-invasion.html
So a false flag operation as a pretext to invade a bit like Japan's excuse to invade China before WWII. A recent cyber attack on Ukraine's government website signalling a possible prelude to an attack. Putin is now an old man at 69 years so I doubt he cares too much as he's only likely got so long left. NATO have essentially left Ukraine to be hung out to dry by not moving in troops so Putin may well take a gamble and see if it can be easily taken.
At the moment I'm messaging a Ukrainian girl who lives about in the middle of Ukraine. I've just messaged her back asking how she feels about the situation with Russian forces out there, not the most romantic message to send I guess but it's pretty relevant at the moment. I don't know if anyone here has any word from Ukrainians on the ground out there but I'm guessing it can't be a great feeling for them. Potentially at any point Russia could invade and all sh*t is likely to break loose. Russia is likely to give it all it's got including unleashing it's weapons of mass destruction onto both the Ukrainian army and the local population, huge big missiles, massive loss of life I'm guessing.
Western nations I think know that their own people won't support any NATO action in Ukraine certainly not by going to fight themselves or any children, family, etc of theirs. We don't have a cohesive or good enough society these days in which many people feel invested enough to stand up for and fight. A guy in western society looking around him today only has the offering of fat women, career women that are competing against him for jobs that he needs to make him worthy in the eyes of women, women having the upper hand in terms of family & divorce courts, etc. With all of that most guys will walk and I somehow doubt the career women will want to step into the breach even if only to pose for Instagram photos of themselves in combat gear. Nope Ukraine invasion and new iron curtain looks on the cards to my mind.
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You can't blame western people for not being interested in fighting for Ukraine.
The only people who have any interest are a few blokes trying to avoid the pro-daters and scammers out there in finding a potential wife.
I wouldn't want my 23 year-old son being sent out there to fight and quite possibly get killed.
Are you going out there to fight Trench ?
I know a few Brits did when Russian separatists tried to take the Donbas region.
The only thing i feel the west ,and in particular the USA and UK ,have let Ukraine down with is the Budapest Memorandum as we're not honouring it by sitting on the sidelines.
I can imagine there'll be quite a few Ukrainian hotties heading for Poland .
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I’ve chatted with a couple of Russian friends.... Both think Putin won’t cross the boarder and is just posturing for western attention.... He’ll keep playing war games on the border and it will eventually amount to a non-event.
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Why does he need Western attention? This is all for internal consumption, not Western attention.
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Why does he need Western attention? This is all for internal consumption, not Western attention.
You’re right, but I’ve seen enough state run tv to see he uses western media and events like the NATO summit on this issue as propaganda. He relies on western reactions to build a wall between his citizens and the west.
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You can't blame western people for not being interested in fighting for Ukraine.
The only people who have any interest are a few blokes trying to avoid the pro-daters and scammers out there in finding a potential wife.
I wouldn't want my 23 year-old son being sent out there to fight and quite possibly get killed.
Are you going out there to fight Trench ?
I know a few Brits did when Russian separatists tried to take the Donbas region.
The only thing i feel the west ,and in particular the USA and UK ,have let Ukraine down with is the Budapest Memorandum as we're not honouring it by sitting on the sidelines.
I can imagine there'll be quite a few Ukrainian hotties heading for Poland .
I don't blame your son for not wanting to fight for my sex life in Ukraine CB :D
Seriously Ukraine was stupid to give up those Nukes, they wouldn't have lost Crimea or faced the problems in the Donbass or the threat of Russian Invasion had they not done so. Literally there was nothing to stop Ukraine from holding onto them they didn't have to agree but they are a foolish mistake and made their country a weakling as a result. As you rightly say the Budapest Memorandum is not being honoured is proving useless.
I won't be going out there to fight for Ukraine and I don't expect an other westerner too. The first girl I met in Kiev, a pretty and tall blonde girl from Mariupol told me she had no interest in it all, to her the civil war was all between oligarchs fighting for power. She had even asked me for a first class train ticket as she didn't want to mix with soldiers in second class lol. I did of course there was little difference to me and of course second class train travel out there is not great being often cramped with others, pretty much all natives. Anyhow I get the impression that a lot of the women won't stay around for loyalty sake out there, they'll most likely run to the EU border and over. My impression is their loyalty to men is not great our there and they tend to regard themselves as superior social status.
End of the day if Putin takes Ukraine then yes Ukrainian girl hotties in Poland who are displaced may be a good place to hunt :) I'm not sure how the EU is going to fair long term, they've taken on a lot of debt due to the virus so if member states become discontent who knows.
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I’ve chatted with a couple of Russian friends.... Both think Putin won’t cross the boarder and is just posturing for western attention.... He’ll keep playing war games on the border and it will eventually amount to a non-event.
He pulled away last Summer but that was under the pretext that it was a 'training exercise' that and it sounds like he had some sanctions lifted so he could finish his oil pipeline, Nordstream.
This time the training exercise wasn't mentioned and he has stated his issues with NATO and has been kind of threatening military intervention. With NATO saying they will stand on the sidelines it kind of leaves him with an invite to invade almost. Unless Putin has something to walk away with he'll look weak and cowardly like he has lost. He won't want to keep doing that. NATO has basically sat still not giving him anything to walk away with and not moving in to protect Ukraine either.
Possibly he might be able to climb down slowly over time by moving troops away bit by bit but I'm not sure if withdrawing will be easy for him without something to show for it. Obviously NATO don't want to just give into his demands they need something in return but at the moment they are hanging Ukraine out to dry as not important enough to fight over, possibly not but it can't be very heartening for many Ukrainians.
I think both Russians and Ukrainians will have their own opinions with many probably thinking it won't happen because it hasn't done so before in the past three decades. I kind of think that is complacent thinking. Let's say Putin invades and he suffers the highly unlikely outcome that his forces do not do well, he's essentially got not a lot to lose, Russia is highly unlikely to lose any territory, hIs position may be at risk but he's getting on now anyway. On the opposite side if he wins and takes Ukraine, as is the likely outcome then he will be seen as securing his place in history for Russia and reverse some of the embarrassment of the loss of the USSR.
I'm guessing this is one for the bookies as at the moment it seems a real toss up.
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One interesting thing about this all actually is why does Russia only have around 100,000 soldiers on Ukraine's border. Russia's army apparently amounts to more than a million soldiers. I'm not saying they couldn't accomplish it with the troops they have, Ukraine has a bit over 100,000 soldiers in all they can field but Russia has far greater weaponry. My guess is that Russia would focus on using their missiles to take out a lot of Ukraine's military before moving ground forces in so they wouldn't necessarily need a lot of troops. Still invading & holding a country I would imagine would be better to have a lot more ground troops at hand. I guess they can move more in later but still interesting that they haven't moved more in up front I'm thinking.
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Just a late night thought. If this thing does kick off with Ukraine and Russia it could leave many single girls for us western guys as most soldiers are male. A terrible thought I know but we live in a world of uncertainty but also of logic. End of the day anything can happen to anyone.
Back in the day part of the MOB reasoning for more women to men was previous wars but as time passed that obviously became less so and reasons such as alcoholism, drugs, cold winter, general health/living standards, unemployment, crime, etc became more likely explanations. If this war does kick of proper then the the war element may once again take greater prominence.
Apparently the UK has just shipped some anti-tank rocket launcher stuff to Ukraine's army and is showing them how it all goes down. The Germans want no part in it and are refusing RAF flights over Germany, think it's the planes delivering the stuff. Guessing the Germans are nder the Russians thumb a bit with the new gas pipeline, etc.
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There’s actually a shortage of women until age 40.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/17/us/politics/russia-ukraine-kyiv-embassy.html
Russia moving out it's Embassy staff, I'm doubting this is just a bluff, could well be prelude to a Russian Invasion.
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Some overall news of the situation:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10415817/amp/White-House-says-Russian-invasion-Ukraine-come-point.html
Apparently Ukraine is calling up 130,000 reservists to bolster it's existing troops so all to play for.
My guess is that I doubt Russia is doing all of this just over NATO expansion issues. They seem to be going a bit overboard for all of that if anything causing themselves a lot of ill-feeling over the all their activities. My bets are placed on this being the real thing. Likely when the ground hardens which will probably align with their preparations being complete they'll move in. So probably days to a week or two away.
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Ukraine now has 251.000 troops and 900,000 reservists.
It's going to be a bloodbath for Putins troops if they invade,could be a Stalingrad in reverse for them.....although Sea and Air superiority will probably eventually see a Russian victory.
But at what cost to the Russian people and economy.?
Will be interesting to see what Poland does if Russia does invade Ukraine...there is no love for Russia there,and they are pretty close to the Ukrainians,and of course a false flag operation involving Poland would mean NATO having to put boots on the ground against Russia...that's all it takes and this is how situations escalate.
Could be why Germany is terrified of getting involved ..showing mad Vlad what good little citizens they're being for him.Sadly for them they'll have no choice if NATO does get involved.
Poland won't want to see Russian influence growing on their borders....and with all the unrest and turmoil within Belarus's population i'm not sure their troops will be up for getting involved.
The USA seems to think Putin is going to attack Kiev through Belarus.If so that would leave Russian troops exposed to any potential attacks on their rear from Polish troops and cutting them off.
By attacking Ukraine Putin could bring his worst fears to fruition,with NATO attacking Russia from many positions.
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Ukraine now has 251.000 troops and 900,000 reservists.
It's going to be a bloodbath for Putins troops if they invade,could be a Stalingrad in reverse for them.....although Sea and Air superiority will probably eventually see a Russian victory.
But at what cost to the Russian people and economy.?
I believe had Russia wanted to attack Ukraine they would have done it very quickly and with surprise on their side. Nowadays no large nation like Russia would allow itself to get into a war where they would suffer substantial casualties as it seems would be the case in Ukraine.
Russia doesn't seem to be that desperate a nation, so there is little need to change the dynamics much, the US appears to be more desperate which begs the question of what is REALLY going on behind the scenes.
Fathertime!
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If Ukraine would like independence from Russia, they have the right to repulse Russia and fight & die for their independence. American kids need not die unnecessarily anymore for our politician and military complex's agendas. Ukraine's kids can and should die for their freedom.
Europeans want to monopolize additional market in Ukraine, like they involved us in Libya (that country is still a wasteland full of chaos and mayhem, while Europeans are skimming its oil).
I'm tired of this 21st century European colonialism. The difference between now and then is the US had become its mercenarial stooge to do the killing and dying for them.
Live DC conference about Ukraine..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyy8ZOHtGGQ
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Ukraine already is independent. So a Russian invasion would be an invasion of a sovereign nation.
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Ukraine already is independent. So a Russian invasion would be an invasion of a sovereign nation.
Great! They can then do whatever it takes to preserve it. This is NOT an American affair. No American should die for that cause. Not one..
Europe want to expand their market to support their unsustainable internal societal social programs, then they should sacrifice their kids for a change.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmxoSYq-Ufc
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Great! They can then do whatever it takes to preserve it. This is NOT an American affair. No American should die for that cause. Not one..
Europe want to expand their market to support their unsustainable internal societal social programs, then they should sacrifice their kids for a change.
Doesn't the Budapest Memorandum make this a USA and UK affair ?
and no, as i've stated on here before, i don't want my 23 year-old son sent out there to fight.
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Wow....10-15,000 Americans living in Ukraine.
I wonder how many to get killed by Russian invading troops/Airstrikes to get USA troops on the ground there ?
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Doesn't the Budapest Memorandum make this a USA and UK affair ?
Exactly. Neither countries should not have instigated, involved itself and participated in the 2014 Ukraine instability that prompted the civil war. To believe moving to expand NATO in Russia's doorstep and not have Russia consider that a threat to its sovereignty, is being shortsighted and not consider what the US did in the Cuban missile crisis.
and no, as i've stated on here before, i don't want my 23 year-old son sent out there to fight.
As it should be.
It is illogical to assume that Moscow should view comparable Western machinations differently. The blunt truth is that the United States and its allies intruded into a traditional Russian sphere of influence—indeed, into a zone that Moscow considers essential to national security. U.S. leaders should recognize that their conduct has violated an implicit Russian equivalent of the Monroe Doctrine. The West needs to back off before it triggers what former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev aptly described in a recent speech as a new Cold War.
http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2014/12/us-needs-recognize-russias-monroe-doctrine/100557/ (http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2014/12/us-needs-recognize-russias-monroe-doctrine/100557/)
The 4 Principle of the Monroe Doctrine:
1. The United States would remain neutral in European affairs and not get involved in European conflicts.
2. The United States would not interfere with current European colonies in the Western Hemisphere.
3. No European nation would be allowed to establish a new colony in the Western Hemisphere.
4. If a European nation would try to interfere with a nation in the Western Hemisphere, the United States would view that as a hostile act and respond accordingly.
The US still regard this doctrine as valid as recently as the '90s.
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Doesn't the Budapest Memorandum make this a USA and UK affair ?
and no, as i've stated on here before, i don't want my 23 year-old son sent out there to fight.
I'm not sure on the ins & outs either of the Budapest Memorandum. It sounds like to me all sides, US, UK, RUSSIA, etc just all jointly agreed to keep out of Ukraine. Obviously Russia is threatening to ignore that agreement with their invasion and has already done so to sone extent with their involvement in East Ukraine and takeover in Crimea. So the 'assurances' given that all would keep out of Ukraine were essentially useless. For once I'm feeling sorry for Ukrainians being duped into such a foolish move, thought they were more streetwise than that, feel they have kind of been played for fools.
Anyhow from the brief stuff I've read don't think there was necessarily anything to underpin it or others coming to their aid. Sounds like it was all about good intentions that amount to not very much.
I personally would be in favour of sending all our fat women over there. They can bear their flabby rears at the Russians until they can take no more and be forced to withdraw >:(
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Wow....10-15,000 Americans living in Ukraine.
I wonder how many to get killed by Russian invading troops/Airstrikes to get USA troops on the ground there ?
I'm surprised there are so many Americans living in Ukraine, guess it must have caught on among them how lovely it is for the women there. With a good income/independent income a good life can be had there. There a guy can be way up the pecking order with the women on what is just a low or average salary in the UK/US.
I'm guessing the Americans and any other foreigners will flee beforehand or when it happens (assuming it happens). I think we can safely assume a fair amount will be caught unawares and be there when/if it all goes down and wonder why there are always those types around. It will be like in the movies with the US guys shouting out that they are American citizens and waving their passports around as if of high importance and as if anyone cares.
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Latest is that Russia could send more troops to the Ukrainian border which of course they could having more than a million soldiers to call upon:
http://news.sky.com/story/amp/ukraine-us-warns-russia-could-double-troop-numbers-on-border-at-short-notice-and-launch-attack-12520202
Other than that it looks like they are sending six large naval ships to the Black Sea/Ukraine. They've just passed the UK and it's pretty certain they are going that way.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10417951/Six-Russian-landing-ships-sail-past-Britain-sparking-speculation-bound-Ukraine.html
My guess is that if the Russians invade Kyiv and Kharkiv will be primary targets as both are real bear the Russian border so large key cities to take that are close with reach. Kyiv important as the largest city, capital and seat of power, Kharkiv as second largest city and tank manufacturer as I'm sure we all know. With both cities being so close to the Russian border odds on they will fall first and pretty quickly. In which case I can rest easy calling Kyiv, Kiev again and Kharkiv, Kharkov ;D. Unfortunately for Ukraine the geography as an independent state doesn't seem to favour them with an attack from Russia. Losing your two biggest cities likely within days if not hours is not good. If they are strong enough to keep them away and get the Russians bogged down then they will be doing very well I think but that I think is probably highly unlikely.
After that there is Odessa but I believe Russia still has some troops around Moldova, Nikolaev & Kherson are near Crimea so all three probably won't last long. Possibly if Ukraine can hold up the Russians in the bottleneck in Crimea they might slow them but it looks like the Russians may do amphibious landings, possibly parachute drops. That just leaves Central and western Ukraine and while a few fairly large cities there not a lot to work with. Odds are Russia may well start with missile attacks which Ukraine apparently doesn't have a lot of defence against then they'll move in with their troops if it all goes ahead. I can't personally see why they would be going to all this bother just for posturing.
I personally think Ukraine's military would likely fold pretty quickly under such an onslaught. Being blown to bits by missiles first then the heavy Russian armour moves in. Odds are what little may be left of Ukraine's army may run in the face of such overwhelming firepower and destruction. It could all be over fairly swiftly within a week or so with little time or ability for Ukraine to call forward reserves because of Russia's army advancing so quickly. That how I would see it likely unfolding I think.
Personally I would much rather Ukraine go on existing as an independent state. I personally think they would be best being given sone nukes back for that to happen. Unfortunately that would likely breach the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
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I'm surprised there are so many Americans living in Ukraine, guess it must have caught on among them how lovely it is for the women there. With a good income/independent income a good life can be had there. There a guy can be way up the pecking order with the women on what is just a low or average salary in the UK/US.
I'm guessing the Americans and any other foreigners will flee beforehand or when it happens (assuming it happens). I think we can safely assume a fair amount will be caught unawares and be there when/if it all goes down and wonder why there are always those types around. It will be like in the movies with the US guys shouting out that they are American citizens and waving their passports around as if of high importance and as if anyone cares.
Well the Americans are not living there for the lovely climate are they.
I've been in Kiev in November and it was freezing with the wind cutting through you like a knife..flew back to London and everyone was wearing t-shirts and shorts in the warm sunshine.
Seems Ukraine has become the new Thailand,presumably with Odessa as the new Bangkok,full of old and fat Americans shacked up with young strippers ( bar girls ).
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I'm no military strategist but there's questionable value in an armed invasion so I doubt it.
The primary intent of the RF is to repel NATO. With an existing internal conflict and dishonoring of the Minsk Protocol, Ukraine cannot become a member of NATO. A similar but not identical incident occurred with Georgia back in 2008.
In an all-out war the RF is equipped with operational hypersonic missiles and ICBMS, and has the world's best air defense systems (S-500). It's also shown itself to be competent in Syria (particularly in comparison to the USA military). Europe would be screwed as it would collapse economically with no Russian energy. The RF economy is more resilient due to existing sanctions so, while it would suffer, comparatively would be better placed. Current inflationary pressures may push the price of energy products (oil, gas) well above current prices. RF prefers hybrid warfare using propaganda, cyber attacks, demographics, and trade flows. China does the same thing, as does the USA (though less in terms of demographics). Both sides will prefer to play dirty games than enter a hot war.
Western powers are prodding the RF as the global banking system is utterly broken, western countries are indebted and failing. They need to create enemies - either with an invisible enemy (Covid and "anti-vaxxers") or a visible one ("evil Russians"). Don't worry you won't own anything and you'll like it as your immune system is utterly destroyed after your seventh booster shot.
This is a conflict provoked by the West that will ultimately be won by the East. Blinken and co. are playing a game of chicken... who do you think will blink first?
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Well the Americans are not living there for the lovely climate are they.
I've been in Kiev in November and it was freezing with the wind cutting through you like a knife..flew back to London and everyone was wearing t-shirts and shorts in the warm sunshine.
Seems Ukraine has become the new Thailand,presumably with Odessa as the new Bangkok,full of old and fat Americans shacked up with young strippers ( bar girls ).
Odessa draws many Americans, I went there a few years ago and saw a fair few Americans obviously out to try their luck. The cities on the coast can have a climate more like the UK during the winter but Kyiv being further to the north likely less so. Odessa's advantage tends to be that many Turks visit which few Ukrainian girls like, even despise so us western guys can come off as a way more attractive option. As usual there is the industry girls and scammers which is supposedly big there but apart from possibly Lviv/western Ukraine is elsewhere, Nikolaev, Kyiv, Kharkiv probably Kherson. Odessa has a lovely feel to it and a nice beach, though a bit overcrowded, etc. If I were living abroad in Ukraine it would likely be where I would base myself, not too far to the border if the Russians attack and there is time to drive, train or run for it, good weather, the beach, good shops, pretty enough looking in the city centre, just about large enough to get a fair amount of women up or get some across from Nikolaev, Kherson, etc.
By comparison Lviv a nice touristy medieval city centre but no beach, a bit too small to get many women up and risk of Russian armies quickly coming down from Belarus even though near the Polish border. No other reasonably large cities nearby to get many girls up and fewer interested in leaving due to it being Ukraine's patriotic centre and nice natural surroundings, a slight western feel to the city.
Kiev very Urban city like, I like it but I prefer Odessa more I think, been there a few times now. A lot of the women there are more wealthy so likely expecting more, big city life. Some living on the outskirts be ok. Likely to be over run pretty fast as so close to the Russian border so mass panic likely to ensue possibly be hit by many missiles also so I would avoid.
Above all I wouldn't risk a plane journey out a very high risk gamble with life if any do indeed fly, very likely to get shot down by the Russians.
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I'm no military strategist but there's questionable value in an armed invasion so I doubt it.
The primary intent of the RF is to repel NATO. With an existing internal conflict and dishonoring of the Minsk Protocol, Ukraine cannot become a member of NATO. A similar but not identical incident occurred with Georgia back in 2008.
In an all-out war the RF is equipped with operational hypersonic missiles and ICBMS, and has the world's best air defense systems (S-500). It's also shown itself to be competent in Syria (particularly in comparison to the USA military). Europe would be screwed as it would collapse economically with no Russian energy. The RF economy is more resilient due to existing sanctions so, while it would suffer, comparatively would be better placed. Current inflationary pressures may push the price of energy products (oil, gas) well above current prices. RF prefers hybrid warfare using propaganda, cyber attacks, demographics, and trade flows. China does the same thing, as does the USA (though less in terms of demographics). Both sides will prefer to play dirty games than enter a hot war.
Western powers are prodding the RF as the global banking system is utterly broken, western countries are indebted and failing. They need to create enemies - either with an invisible enemy (Covid and "anti-vaxxers") or a visible one ("evil Russians"). Don't worry you won't own anything and you'll like it as your immune system is utterly destroyed after your seventh booster shot.
This is a conflict provoked by the West that will ultimately be won by the East. Blinken and co. are playing a game of chicken... who do you think will blink first?
I disagree, while Russia enjoys it's game of dirty tricks I think Putin is eager to use his shiny new army. Most of Russia's old Soviet weaponry has been replaced by the latest advanced weaponry. I would guess Russia is at the height of its military rejuvenation of its replacement of old equipment with new equipment. The west the impression I get is in a more piecemeal situation, some older stuff, some newer, both varying capability. Added to that they have said they won't send in NATO troops. While that keeps us out of a WWIII situation (for now most likely) it means that Russia is presented with an almost certain clear decisive win if they go into Ukraine. Notice Russia hasn't backed off or stayed the same since they made this announcement but has in fact increased its military presence around Ukraine, ships sent to Black Sea, military sent for war games exercises in Belarus, more troops overall, etc. It's basically giving Putin the green light to attack Ukraine. Putin is getting towards being an old man now at 69 and after ruling Russia for 20 years he wants to get somewhere with it all aside a better economy and a few small gains. His looking for his place in the history books and for that taking back lost territory as he likely sees it is the sure way to do it.
You're right in the west's back being up against the wall with its indebtedness, the US couldn't afford to go on in Afghanistan so it tells Putin they can't afford a military adventure in Ukraine for long. The rest of the west is in much the same situation, the EU just can't get it together, it never really has effectively much on any front but it can't even agree with itself or members on a tiny army of a few thousand men that would be largely be way too small anyway. It has an agreement if one member is attached the rest will go to it's aid. I don't think Putin will attack an EU country as NATO tends to cover some EU countries anyway so it would likely bring the whole lot against him. I don't think he's too bothered about them, they are small each alone and not necessarily that Russian, Ukraine however I think is very much in his sights.
My guess is that after Ukraine, Georgia will be next, soft easy targets first.
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Current UK travel advice for Ukraine:
29th Dec 2021 - valid to today
"Since late March 2021, there has been a pattern of Russian military build-ups near Ukraine’s eastern border and in illegally annexed Crimea. Since the beginning of November 2021 there has been significant media coverage of heightened tensions between Russia and Ukraine.
The situation in Kyiv and other areas outside Donetsk and Luhansk is generally calm. However, events in Ukraine are fast moving. Make sure you are ready to change your plans quickly if you need to. You should remain vigilant throughout Ukraine, monitor the media and this travel advice regularly, subscribe to email alerts and read our advice on how to deal with a crisis overseas. You should keep your departure plans under close review. Renewed military action anywhere in Ukraine would greatly reduce British Embassy Kyiv’s ability to provide consular support."
Personally I think it should just say do not travel and get out if already in Ukraine. It does however say you need to try and get out quick if needed although the situation may be fast moving. Also as a result can't necessarily rely on embassy support.
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I'm no military strategist but there's questionable value in an armed invasion so I doubt it.
The primary intent of the RF is to repel NATO. With an existing internal conflict and dishonoring of the Minsk Protocol, Ukraine cannot become a member of NATO. A similar but not identical incident occurred with Georgia back in 2008.
In an all-out war the RF is equipped with operational hypersonic missiles and ICBMS, and has the world's best air defense systems (S-500). It's also shown itself to be competent in Syria (particularly in comparison to the USA military). Europe would be screwed as it would collapse economically with no Russian energy. The RF economy is more resilient due to existing sanctions so, while it would suffer, comparatively would be better placed. Current inflationary pressures may push the price of energy products (oil, gas) well above current prices. RF prefers hybrid warfare using propaganda, cyber attacks, demographics, and trade flows. China does the same thing, as does the USA (though less in terms of demographics). Both sides will prefer to play dirty games than enter a hot war.
Western powers are prodding the RF as the global banking system is utterly broken, western countries are indebted and failing. They need to create enemies - either with an invisible enemy (Covid and "anti-vaxxers") or a visible one ("evil Russians"). Don't worry you won't own anything and you'll like it as your immune system is utterly destroyed after your seventh booster shot.
This is a conflict provoked by the West that will ultimately be won by the East. Blinken and co. are playing a game of chicken... who do you think will blink first?
I agree with this analysis. The US enjoys creating trouble for russia and provoking. Probably part of their plan to disrupt Nordstream 2. That way, we can sell our products for higher prices.
In addition, I suspect Russia could unleash a blitzkrieg and level practically all of Ukraine before even entering the country if it wanted to. The worldwide consequences would be too great for them to do that though.
Fathertime!
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I agree with this analysis. The US enjoys creating trouble for russia and provoking. Probably part of their plan to disrupt Nordstream 2. That way, we can sell our products for higher prices.
In addition, I suspect Russia could unleash a blitzkrieg and level practically all of Ukraine before even entering the country if it wanted to. The worldwide consequences would be too great for them to do that though.
Fathertime!
Blitzkrieg is exactly what I think the Russians have on their cards and what they will do. They have the forces built up just for that. They don't care about the international community, they have a big enough internal market they already have sanctions so more won't harm them that much possibly the west such as Germany just as much. I fire see them hammering Ukrainian forces with missiles all at once everywhere. They may even hit the cities, if they do it will likely be all of the big major ones all at the same time. Ukraine forces won't know what hit them. The tanks and army and the rest will then move in and Ukraine will be hit so hard and fast they won't have time to regroup and organise reserves, panic will ensue and they'll flee.
Ukrainians are presently thinking under the assumption that they have already been fighting Russia's army since 2014. I think they vastly underestimate what Russia's army is really like, they haven't really been hit by their army to date, no big missiles, very few heavy tanks, etc. When/if they do they are going to be annilalated fast in very large numbers. I don't think they'll withstand it.
If anything Ukraine needs to bring up all its reserves now possibly even conscription to have the armies behind the front line armies ready which it will need. It will also need to space these troops out so they aren't taken out all in one by a missile. In addition they should organise guerilla groups of fighters, cells led by at least one trained army guy if not more of local population volunteers. Have stashes of weapons located in fairly remote locations in the ground that only the cell leaders will know where they are. Once Ukraine is over run by Russia these cells become active and move to action. Make Ukraine like another Afghanistan is the only way to do it I reckon.
Putin doesn't want to see Ukraine become any sort of NATO linked state. He'll see the only way to do that is to attack and conquer Ukraine. Trust me odds are that he'll move in. Ukraine's army as it stands at the moment is still way too weak to withstand a Russian attack they really need to throw everything they've got into it now to stand any chance. 40 something odd million people in Ukraine and most of them are complacently sat on their todd, the Ukrainian government need to get them into action.
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I don't see a blitzkrieg where major cities in Ukraine would be targeted.
The reason being there are probably millions of pro-Russians/Russians living in those cities and killing them would cause huge ramifications for Putin..with riots in Russia's cities.
It would make him a target of assassination attempts for sure.
Imagine you're a Russian in Moscow with family in Ukraine and Putin has just wiped them out..how would you react ?
I know how i'd react.
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The UK is understood to have gifted 2000 of The Next Generation Light Anti-Tank Weapon ( NLAW),which is described by its manufacturers as "the first ever single soldier missile system that rapidly knocks out any main battle Tank in just one shot by striking it from above "to Ukraine this week.
So,that will be the Russian Tanks out of the game...their Tank crews will be crapping themselves right about now : ))
Russia ain't happy about it LOL.
The Russian Embassy to the UK posted on twitter "It is crystal clear that UK shipment of lethal weapons to Ukraine will only fuel the crisis ".
As if them sticking 100,000 troops on the Ukrainian border hadn't already fueled the crisis. :rolleyes:
So come on USA we're doing our bit..it's time for you to step up too instead of your President saying he believes Russia is going to invade Ukraine and doing nothing about it....or is your leader going to dither and show Putin how weak the President of the USA truly is.?
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As if them sticking 100,000 troops on the Ukrainian border hadn't already fueled the crisis. :rolleyes:
So come on USA we're doing our bit..it's time for you to step up too instead of your President saying he believes Russia is going to invade Ukraine and doing nothing about it....or is your leader going to dither and show Putin how weak the President of the USA truly is.?
The US should give a sh1t about this, or Ukraine, because...?
Do you honestly believe your country, or the US, would tempt a bloody conventional war at the least, or worst a nuclear war - over Ukraine? LMAO!
Elaborate your response please. Especially since Germany had already expressed no interest in any diplomatic or any type of economic sanctioning - much less military assistance (despite the EU primarily benefitting and salivating over the economic potential at getting Ukraine's consumers) against Russia - regardless of what RF does.
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The US should give a sh1t about this, or Ukraine, because...?
Because of the Budapest Memorandum.
Or are you happy for the rest of the World to realize the word of the USA is worthless regarding future talks with other countries about Nuclear Arms de-escalation.?
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Do you honestly believe your country, or the US, would tempt a bloody conventional war at the least, or worst a nuclear war - over Ukraine? LMAO!
Elaborate your response please. Especially since Germany had already expressed no interest in any diplomatic or any type of economic sanctioning - much less military assistance (despite the EU primarily benefitting and salivating over the economic potential at getting Ukraine's consumers) against Russia - regardless of what RF does.
As you're so concerned about a nuclear war ,just remember countries like North Korea will see how the USA stood by and let Russia take over Ukraine,IF the invasion happens, despite the Budapest Memorandum,,,,so NO chance of them ever giving up their Nuclear Arms as Ukraine did...making the World a more dangerous place.
Germany had no part in the Budapest Memorandum....the USA and the UK did.
That's why the USA needs to give a shit....maybe you need to read up on it.
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Because of the Budapest Memorandum.
LMAO!
1. Budapest is a Nuclear Proliferation Treaty. Both the UK/US should have kept their noses off and not interfere in Ukraine's affairs. Their internal interference in 2014 Ukraine was a hostile act towards Russia.
2. Whether you realize this or not, if there ever was ANY SERIOUS interest in any military engagement with Russia because of any 'so-called' violation of the treaty', wake-up as there actually was a military conflict, and a territorial take-over of Ukraine back in 2014/2015. Did you see any UK/US enforcement of the treaty? LMAO!!!
Monroe Doctrine much?
Or are you happy for the rest of the World to realize the word of the USA is worthless regarding future talks with other countries about Nuclear Arms de-escalation.?
You must've been napping under a snow cave in the polar region in recent 2-3 decades.
Besides, who the phuck cares what the 'world' thinks of the US.
Whatever happened to EUROs silly huffing and puffing 'no blood for oil' BS?
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As you're so concerned about a nuclear war ,just remember countries like North Korea will see how the USA stood by and let Russia take over Ukraine,IF the invasion happens, despite the Budapest Memorandum,,,,so NO chance of them ever giving up their Nuclear Arms as Ukraine did...making the World a more dangerous place.
Germany had no part in the Budapest Memorandum....the USA and the UK did.
That's why the USA needs to give a shit....maybe you need to read up on it.
LMAO!! Go send your kid ASAP! Show us your conviction dude! The Russians are coming!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdUb0FxGbOo
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Sheeesh..even Ukrainians themselves are working with Russia!!! LMAO!
http://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-europe-russia-9c2e340dc7f23f58c2b05391dae37275 (http://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-europe-russia-9c2e340dc7f23f58c2b05391dae37275)
To think Chelseaboy is dead set in sending his kid into this quagmire to prove his conviction, baby! Funny.
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I don't see a blitzkrieg where major cities in Ukraine would be targeted.
The reason being there are probably millions of pro-Russians/Russians living in those cities and killing them would cause huge ramifications for Putin..with riots in Russia's cities.
It would make him a target of assassination attempts for sure.
Imagine you're a Russian in Moscow with family in Ukraine and Putin has just wiped them out..how would you react ?
I know how i'd react.
For me 50/50 chance that they do or don't. Theoretically it's best to have reasonably intact cities and industry when taking over territory that way it's economy isn't smashed with you having to rebuild it. The way the population feels is another factor you highlight, they are going to hate Putin/Russia if they kill their family especially as civilians on the other hand it may I instill fear useful for control. Odds are it may make the region harder to control with resistance building up.
The history of Russia tends to them not giving much care however, in the 20s or 30s I think it was that Ukraine suffered a famine and many died as a result of early forced collectivisation failures. I don't think the Russians cared much about that. Then of course all the state repression of later years, surpressing the Cossacks etc. While many Ukrainians are ethnic Russians in the East they may well identify as Russian speaking Ukrainians. Putin is a cold KGB guy my guess is that he has little care for who they are, if they end up in the way with Ukrainian fighters seeking the cities for cover where there is more protection and can bed in to fight easier in the buildings then he could well let those missiles fly and be damned whether they hit soldiers or civilians.
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The UK is understood to have gifted 2000 of The Next Generation Light Anti-Tank Weapon ( NLAW),which is described by its manufacturers as "the first ever single soldier missile system that rapidly knocks out any main battle Tank in just one shot by striking it from above "to Ukraine this week.
So,that will be the Russian Tanks out of the game...their Tank crews will be crapping themselves right about now : ))
Russia ain't happy about it LOL.
The Russian Embassy to the UK posted on twitter "It is crystal clear that UK shipment of lethal weapons to Ukraine will only fuel the crisis ".
As if them sticking 100,000 troops on the Ukrainian border hadn't already fueled the crisis. :rolleyes:
So come on USA we're doing our bit..it's time for you to step up too instead of your President saying he believes Russia is going to invade Ukraine and doing nothing about it....or is your leader going to dither and show Putin how weak the President of the USA truly is.?
Those anti tank missiles/rocket launchers may help to up the casualties the Russians sustain and make it a harder, longer, bloodier fight. Many may well be taken out by Russia hitting Ukrainians army en-masse with missiles but with 2000 being gifted many soldiers with them might well avoid the missile strikes and be able to fire back when the Russian tanks roll forward.
Hopefully all this military weaponry we are gifting the Ukrainians will stand us eager young(ish) bucks in favour with Ukrainians if we ever get out there again ;D
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Sheeesh..even Ukrainians themselves are working with Russia!!! LMAO!
http://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-europe-russia-9c2e340dc7f23f58c2b05391dae37275 (http://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-europe-russia-9c2e340dc7f23f58c2b05391dae37275)
To think Chelseaboy is dead set in sending his kid into this quagmire to prove his conviction, baby! Funny.
You seem to be shitting yourself over there..scared you'll get called-up and sent to Ukraine to fight ? LMAO.
Don't worry,seeing as you seem to lack reading comprehension,no-one is talking about NATO military engagement/ boots on the ground as part of the Budapest Memorandum....the USA and UK just needs to make sure the Ukrainians are armed sufficiently to defend themselves which the UK is doing.
As i said in the original post,before you started having your nervous breakdown about military engagements involving the USA and UK, when is the USA going to step up and do the same ?
By the way it's common knowledge there are plenty of pro-Russian Ukrainians in Ukraine...who do you think the Ukrainian troops have been fighting for the last eight years in Ukraine ?...Do keep up.LMAO.
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You seem to be shitting yourself over there..scared you'll get called-up and sent to Ukraine to fight ? LMAO.
Don't worry,seeing as you seem to lack reading comprehension,no-one is talking about NATO boots on the ground as part of the Budapest Memorandum....the USA and UK just needs to make sure the Ukrainians are armed sufficiently to defend themselves which the UK is doing.
As i said in the original post,before you started having your nervous breakdown, when is the USA going to step up and do the same ?
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Another stuck in first gear. Speaking of reading comprehension issues, sheesh. Get with it, will you? LMAO!
That’s what happens when the mouth is faster than the brain. Wake up, you shouldn’t be opining over things that which you’re obviously clueless with.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-ukraine-20171226-story.html?outputType=amp
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That was four years ago....and what's happened since ?
I assume you did check the date of that article ? LMAO.
The arms you supplied helped the Ukrainians to fight some pro-Russian terrorists,which the article clearly says ...talking about reading comprehension .LMAO
Where's the arms to fight 100,000 Russian troops and Tanks and Bombers and Fighter Aircraft ?
At the risk of repeating myself....do keep up.
Tick Tock.
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You seem to be shitting yourself over there..scared you'll get called-up and sent to Ukraine to fight ? LMAO.
Don't worry,seeing as you seem to lack reading comprehension,no-one is talking about NATO military engagement/ boots on the ground as part of the Budapest Memorandum....the USA and UK just needs to make sure the Ukrainians are armed sufficiently to defend themselves which the UK is doing.
As i said in the original post,before you started having your nervous breakdown about military engagements involving the USA and UK, when is the USA going to step up and do the same ?
By the way it's common knowledge there are plenty of pro-Russian Ukrainians in Ukraine...who do you think the Ukrainian troops have been fighting for the last eight years in Ukraine ?...Do keep up.LMAO.
I don’t mean to humiliate you publicly but do tell, since you keep bringing up the silly Budapest Memorandum as your silly sticking point, where exactly does it say the US or the UK, is in anyway obligated to arm Ukraine?
Here are the 6 contents of that memorandum. Entertain me since English is your native language:
Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to influence their politics.
Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.
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This time, do yourself a favor and think before you post.
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The UK is understood to have gifted 2000 of The Next Generation Light Anti-Tank Weapon ( NLAW),which is described by its manufacturers as "the first ever single soldier missile system that rapidly knocks out any main battle Tank in just one shot by striking it from above "to Ukraine this week.
Now that these weapons are all over Ukraine, I wonder how long before that technology winds up in Russian/Chinese hands. Since I'm not a believer that Russia is going to be attacking Ukraine, there has to be some secondary gains they are vying for. Perhaps this is one of many of those gains.
Fathertime!
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Ukraine now needs so anti missile intercept missiles. That is desperately needed to nullify Russia taking out a lot of Ukraine's army in one fell swoop with lots of missile strikes on them. They then stand a chance of holding off the Russian troops a hell of a lot longer than being over run by them pretty quickly I reckon. Whether any of the stuff the Russians get their hands on eventually who knows, most technology gets pretty old quick anyway and they probably have their own similar versions it's not like there a nation playing technology catch up anymore as I see it.
My guess is that the Russians will launch an attack as soon, or soon after those six large naval ships they sent reach the Black Sea, no point in launching an attack before they get there with reinforcement from them several days away as I see it. Looks like the time it will take them to get there is probably around a week at a guess, so in about a week's time or so. So as many predict around the beginning of February perhaps.
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I don’t mean to humiliate you publicly but do tell, since you keep bringing up the silly Budapest Memorandum as your silly sticking point, where exactly does it say the US or the UK, is in anyway obligated to arm Ukraine?
Here are the 6 contents of that memorandum. Entertain me since English is your native language:
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This time, do yourself a favor and think before you post.
If anyone has humiliated himself on this thread that would be you .
1) You're the guy who started waffling on during your panic attack about USA military engagement with Russia,including possible Nuclear attacks,over Ukraine...no-one else...you.
2) You're the one who claimed i'd be happy for my son to fight in Ukraine when i had stated twice on here previously that i do NOT want my son out there fighting...so you can stop your lying BS .
3) You're the one who attempted to hold up Germany as an example of non-help through the Budapest Memorandum when in fact they were not involved with the Budapest Agreement.
4)You're the one who held up Trump sending some arms to Ukraine in 2017 to help the fight against Ukrainian pro-separatists as an example of helping Ukraine NOW against 100k Russian troops on their border.
On every point you've been made to look a fool and your tactic is to try and deflect your foolishness by switching to something else.
That doesn't work with me sonny boy.
We can all see the kind of person you are with your statement about why should the USA give a shit about Ukraine.
Now,regarding the Budapest Memorandum and back to my point in post 215 about why the USA needs to give a shit....you see i preempted you yet again...go back and read it again so it sinks in this time.
"Under the agreement the signatories offered Ukraine "security assurances".
Whether or not the Memorandum sets out legal obligations the difficulties that Ukraine has encountered since early 2014 may cast doubt on the credibility of future security guarantees that are offered in exchange for non proliferation commitments."
Now..security assurances don't just mean the USA and UK won't attack Ukraine..it also means we will do what we can to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Standing by and watching Russia invade Ukraine,which you want the USA to do, isn't protecting the sovereignty of Ukraine.
So the UK has sent 2000 anti-Tank missiles to Ukraine this week plus military personnel to train the Ukrainian troops how to use them....and we've gifted these missiles.
Now what has Biden done ..apart from talking hot air.?
I suggest you read properly what i post in future as it becomes tiresome having to repeat myself to you as if i'm talking with a child.
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Ukraine now needs so anti missile intercept missiles. That is desperately needed to nullify Russia taking out a lot of Ukraine's army in one fell swoop with lots of missile strikes on them. They then stand a chance of holding off the Russian troops a hell of a lot longer than being over run by them pretty quickly I reckon. Whether any of the stuff the Russians get their hands on eventually who knows, most technology gets pretty old quick anyway and they probably have their own similar versions it's not like there a nation playing technology catch up anymore as I see it.
My guess is that the Russians will launch an attack as soon, or soon after those six large naval ships they sent reach the Black Sea, no point in launching an attack before they get there with reinforcement from them several days away as I see it. Looks like the time it will take them to get there is probably around a week at a guess, so in about a week's time or so. So as many predict around the beginning of February perhaps.
I agree that Ukraine needs those missiles and also SAM systems to help defend against Russian aircraft.
They may already have these...who knows ?
If not maybe the USA/Biden might actually do something instead of just talking.
The World is watching and taking note of who stepped-up when needed....the Brits have.
Putin is watching and seeing who's weak and who isn't.
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If anyone has humiliated himself on this thread that would be you .
1) You're the guy who started waffling on during your panic attack about USA military engagement with Russia,including possible Nuclear attacks,over Ukraine...no-one else...you.
2) You're the one who claimed i'd be happy for my son to fight in Ukraine when i had stated twice on here previously that i do NOT want my son out there fighting...so you can stop your lying BS .
3) You're the one who attempted to hold up Germany as an example of non-help through the Budapest Memorandum when in fact they were not involved with the Budapest Agreement.
4)You're the one who held up Trump sending some arms to Ukraine in 2017 to help the fight against Ukrainian pro-separatists as an example of helping Ukraine NOW against 100k Russian troops on their border.
On every point you've been made to look a fool and your tactic is to try and deflect your foolishness by switching to something else.
That doesn't work with me sonny boy.
We can all see the kind of person you are with your statement about why should the USA give a shit about Ukraine.
Now,regarding the Budapest Memorandum and back to my point in post 215 about why the USA needs to give a shit....you see i preempted you yet again...go back and read it again so it sinks in this time.
"Under the agreement the signatories offered Ukraine "security assurances".
Whether or not the Memorandum sets out legal obligations the difficulties that Ukraine has encountered since early 2014 may cast doubt on the credibility of future security guarantees that are offered in exchange for non proliferation commitments."
Now..security assurances don't just mean the USA and UK won't attack Ukraine..it also means we will do what we can to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Standing by and watching Russia invade Ukraine,which you want the USA to do, isn't protecting the sovereignty of Ukraine.
So the UK has sent 2000 anti-Tank missiles to Ukraine this week plus military personnel to train the Ukrainian troops how to use them....and we've gifted these missiles.
Now what has Biden done ..apart from talking hot air.?
I suggest you read properly what i post in future as it becomes tiresome having to repeat myself to you as if i'm talking with a child.
So what you’re saying is you’re really clueless. The memorandum content were clearly laid out to you, so instead of just covering subject points and concisely elaborate within it, you instead gave your personal idiotic rambling that have ZERO to do with the subject at hand. Resorting to 5,000 words nonsense did not deflected from this obvious fact about your stupidity.
Now run along child. You’re obviously way in over your head. Don’t let your tucked tail trip you over. Idiot.
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So what you’re saying is you’re really clueless. The memorandum content were clearly laid out to you, so instead of just covering subject points and concisely elaborate within it, you instead gave your personal idiotic rambling that have ZERO to do with the subject at hand. Resorting to 5,000 words nonsense did not deflected from this obvious fact about your stupidity.
Now run along child. You’re obviously way in over your head. Don’t let your tucked tail trip you over. Idiot.
Like I told
Err no they were not my personal ramblings idiot.
I suggest you read Wiki,..the point i made about credibility in my previous post to you was taken word for word from there .
Once again you've shown what a fool you are LMAO.
It's clear the UK Government agrees with me...despite all your idiotic ramblings...and i'd back them over some clueless nobody posting on a forum :rolleyes:
Now chew on that dopey.
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Those anti tank missiles/rocket launchers may help to up the casualties the Russians sustain and make it a harder, longer, bloodier fight. Many may well be taken out by Russia hitting Ukrainians army en-masse with missiles but with 2000 being gifted many soldiers with them might well avoid the missile strikes and be able to fire back when the Russian tanks roll forward.
Hopefully all this military weaponry we are gifting the Ukrainians will stand us eager young(ish) bucks in favour with Ukrainians if we ever get out there again ;D
You might want to get out there quick.
I've just watched the BBC news and their correspondent in Kiev said the British are particularly popular in Ukraine now after our gift of the 2000 anti-Tank missiles to them
Wear a Union Jack tie or something and you'll be feted as a hero out there..Ukraine fathers offering their daughters in marriage to you.whilst attracting admiring glances from plenty of hotties . :popcorn:
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Released on December 15, 2009, written by Volodymyr Vasylenko:
http://day.kyiv.ua/en/article/close/assurances-without-guarantees-shelved-document (http://day.kyiv.ua/en/article/close/assurances-without-guarantees-shelved-document)
"Idealizing the Budapest Memorandum cannot and must not be a “step” in the shaping of Ukraine’s foreign policy"
...To start with, negotiations on security guarantees for Ukraine as a state that had voluntarily forsaken the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal were held not only in Budapest and not only in December 1994. Begun in April 1992 and held first with the US and then with the UK, Russia, and France, the talks ended on December 5, 1994, with the signing of the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, whereby Ukraine became a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. In addition to Ukraine’s President Leonid Kuchma, this document was signed by Russian President Boris Yeltsin, US President Bill Clinton, and UK Prime Minister John Major.
China gave Ukraine security guarantees unilaterally in the governmental statement dated December 4, 1994, as did France in a declaration that was handed in to Ukraine’s delegation together with a covering letter signed by President Francois Mitterand on December 5, 1994.
As it follows from the Memorandum and the above-mentioned unilateral acts, the five nuclear states, permanent members of the UN Security Council, did not make any special commitments with respect to Ukraine – they only reaffirmed their commitment, in accordance with the principles of the UN Charter and the CSCE Final Act, to respect the independence, sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine, to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, as well as from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. Besides, they reaffirmed their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine should it become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used, and their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.
The only specific obligation that the three nuclear states – the US, Russia, and the UK – took was that they “will consult in the event a situation arises which raises a question concerning these commitments.” This means that the aforesaid nuclear states must take part in these consultations at Ukraine’s demand. However, the Memorandum has no clauses that set out the procedure of convening and conducting such consultations, making and implementing decisions, or explain the nature of sanctions against the potential offender.
The documents in which China and France gave Ukraine security assurances do not call for an institution of mandatory consultations. The Chinese declaration only says about the government’s inclination to a “peaceful settlement of differences and disputes by way of fair consultations.” The declaration of France does not mention consultations at all.
Therefore, the form and content of the Memorandum and the above-mentioned unilateral acts show that, unfortunately, the Budapest talks on giving Ukraine security guarantees did not eventually result in a comprehensive international agreement that creates an adequate special international mechanism to protect our national security. Tellingly, the authentic English-language copies of the Memorandum use the term “security assurances” which is far weaker than “security guarantees.” The unilateral declaration of France also speaks about “security assurances” (assurances de securite) rather than security guarantees....
Learn, Chelseaboy. Learn.
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The world is a cruel place. From a tactical standpoint, I'd suspect the US would like to make sure Russia pays dearly for Ukraine. Given that, we are probably willing to send as much assistance to Ukraine as we can get away with. Our goal wouldn't necessarily be to save Ukraine, but to ensure that Russia incurs casualties and costs. By doing this, it increases the chances that Ukraine would suffer increased casualties as well. We would be using Ukrainian armed forces to satisfy our own ends. Ultimately Ukraine will have to defend and fight for themselves. I'm still convinced that this will not turn into a full-scale military conflict.
As usual, I don't think the US has a leg to stand on. We have directly/indirectly fueled discord poverty in unfavored nations the world around, which I suspect has caused deaths/suffering in the millions.
Fathertime!
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I agree that Ukraine needs those missiles and also SAM systems to help defend against Russian aircraft.
They may already have these...who knows ?
If not maybe the USA/Biden might actually do something instead of just talking.
The World is watching and taking note of who stepped-up when needed....the Brits have.
Putin is watching and seeing who's weak and who isn't.
I read somewhere of recent that Ukraine is weak on anti-missile equipment. My guess is that they also don't have much if anything on SAM's either. Like you say they need both to avoid Russia gaining easy air superiority as that would be a disaster in any hope of holding them off. Ukraine doesn't have as much or likely as good an airforce as Russia so they won't get far with that. Looks like Ukraine's best bet is to acquire some decent anti-missile equipment and SAM's to defend against the threat from the air. I think if they had that then Putin might start to reconsider attacking Ukraine. A bloody fight is not what he would be keen on I think. To date Ukraine has presented itself as a relatively easy and vulnerable target with NATO proclaiming they won't go in ripe for the taking. The anti-tank missiles we gave them will help look a little more difficult for the Russians to fight but I don't think it's necessarily enough. The Russians still possess awesome firepower and could still likely demolish Ukraine's army very quickly. They really need to combat the sir threat to avoid being pounded, obliterated and whoever left fleeing. Ukraine is presently almost surrounded so a long line to have to defend. The Russians only need to punch a hole through one area along that line, pour in and roll their whole line up from attacking from the rear and it'll be pretty much all over fir Ukraine.
After Ukraine, Russia will be very dominant in the Black Sea and Georgia will be cut off from aid from the west. Georgia will be the next soft target too far removed to help. After that probably the stans, Putin already had a foothold in Kazakhstan so he can use that as leverage, again more soft targets and former republics of the USSR. The former Eastern Bloc countries I don't think he is too concerned about, their not necessarily in his eye. Possibly Finland if they remain outside of NATO. That's the way I see it anywhere.
This is definitely a situation that needs to be fought by proxy as far as the west is concerned. Using NATO would risk WWIII so not worth that. Equiping Ukraine with some stuff similar to that of a western nation gives it the ability to at least mount a credible defence and Putin won't be keen on attacking someone who may not just roll over as easily as they first appeared.
I think for sure though this will help us UK guys abroad in giving them the anti tank stuff. Being seen as allies and friends helps rather than being seen as foreigners who they don't feel any connection with.
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The world is a cruel place. From a tactical standpoint, I'd suspect the US would like to make sure Russia pays dearly for Ukraine. Given that, we are probably willing to send as much assistance to Ukraine as we can get away with. Our goal wouldn't necessarily be to save Ukraine, but to ensure that Russia incurs casualties and costs. By doing this, it increases the chances that Ukraine would suffer increased casualties as well. We would be using Ukrainian armed forces to satisfy our own ends. Ultimately Ukraine will have to defend and fight for themselves. I'm still convinced that this will not turn into a full-scale military conflict.
As usual, I don't think the US has a leg to stand on. We have directly/indirectly fueled discord poverty in unfavored nations the world around, which I suspect has caused deaths/suffering in the millions.
Fathertime!
Exactly, while a protracted military struggle may see the Russians off in the end this is about giving the Russians va hard time of it by causing them more casualties. The anti-tank stuff the UK sent will cause more casualties on the Russian side most likely. But in making Ukraine stiffer competition to beat it is like you say likely to make it a lot more bloody and hence miserable for Ukrainians. I kind of can't help feel a bit bad by sitting in a 'safe' country and discussing how these poor people are going to face being torn to pieces. While it's not my fight nor that of my nation or the US/NATO it doesn't feel great to sit back and potentially view the happenings that could quite likely unfold with an armchair view of things :popcorn: End of the day these are real people like all of us that are going to suffer real bad and I for one wouldn't like to be stuck in that situation. Families torn apart, loved ones lost, etc.
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An interesting article here from an interview with residents of Kharkiv on the situation:
http://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukraine-crisis-if-someone-tries-to-take-our-freedom-again-we-will-fight-back-ukrainians-say-as-tensions-continue-12522010
Looks like beneath the surface a lot of people may be pretty worried, I don't blame them. This is in a city quite far east in Ukraine as you all know so probably a lot of Russian speakers/original ethnic Russians. I think the article rightly draws attention to whether the Ukraine Military will be able to cope with the Russian Army as it will likely be a lot harder and probably faster hitting than they have had to date. On that point of course the Russians would get the first strike in as they would attack first since Ukraine of course won't attack Russia as that would be bringing the problem on themselves for certain and the lack the capability to do it well and they won't want to give the Russians the excuse. So odds are that Ukraine's military could be blown to bits in the first strike leaving little left to fight with my guess would be.
The article gives some sterling account of Ukrainians resolve but that may unfortunately count for little at the end of the day I'm thinking. A destroyed army won't have any resolve.
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The humiliation continues....LMAO!
1. Plagiarism is not a very cool thing to do, you know. Only idiots do that. If you can't put together a coherent statement on your own, and you have a need to resolve to cut/paste, give some reference/s.
2. If you relied on WIKI, allow me to reinforced what I suspected about you - a barking dog void of any significant bite. I say that because the very source of information you relied upon cited the following:
So now that you've successfully made a total mockery of yourself, please stop digging. I'm certain your public display of stupidity has become painfully obvious now.
:blowkiss:
I was entertained.
You can posture and squirm and swerve and attempt to deflect and spin as much as you like...trolls do tend to do that .
Your credibility on here is zilch.
You have been shown to be incorrect and lacking on any knowledge on many of your points..as i listed previously.
Even worse than any of that i have shown you to be a liar with your comment about my son...so anything you've previously posted or will post in the future can be taken with a pinch of salt.
Your public humiliation and exposure as a liar is complete.
I'm well aware what the word assurances mean by the way...and so does the UK Government..which is why they've gifted the 2000 anti-Tank Missiles to Ukraine :rolleyes:
They know a bit more about the Budapest Memorandum than some drooling trolling nobody posting on here
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:popcorn:
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Stick to the issues and do NOT resort to petty personal insults. Continued behaviour of this sort will result in the topic being locked.
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You can posture and squirm and swerve and attempt to deflect and spin as much as you like...trolls do tend to do that .
As you can see, personal petty insult is apparently not allowed...accusation of squirming and swerving and calling one a troll, IMO, is personal insult. Do you agree Chelseaboy?
Your credibility on here is zilch.
Close to another personal insult, but I'll let that slide.
You have been shown to be incorrect and lacking on any knowledge on many of your points..as i listed previously.
Oh really?!? Let me bold those questions for better clarity:
Can you please show me how you addressed what I asked before then - PLEASE. You kept referring to the Budapest Memorandum as the justification of the US and the UK sending arms to Ukraine - which I asked VERY CLEARLY, even provide you the 6 contents of the memorandum to please show me, or explain, where in the memorandum explicitly mentioned that.
Even worse than any of that i have shown you to be a liar with your comment about my son...so anything you've previously posted or will post in the future can be taken with a pinch of salt.
The comment about your son derived from your attempt at bravado about going forth with reckless abandon and cheering for the exacerbating in getting Ukraine in an armed conflict against a far more superior nation that would likely result in untold thousands of casualties. It's akin to finding delight in a bloodbath, and with such emotions and bravado, methinks maybe you'd change your mind and request deployment of your kid, is all. Is this an option to you, or no? UK arming Ukraine, you believe levels the field against Russia? Can anyone arm them enough to survive a war with Russia?
Your public humiliation and exposure as a liar is complete.
Oooppsss...there you were, resorted to another personal insult it seems...
I'm well aware what the word assurances mean by the way...and so does the UK Government..which is why they've gifted the 2000 anti-Tank Missiles to Ukraine :rolleyes:
English is your native tongue, so it please point out where in the 6 contents of the memorandum cited that. It is written in English, bruddah. :devil:
Assurance used in the cited contents relates to compliance of the bulleted contents. Again, where did it even suggested any form of military assistance. Your personal definition and usage of the word ‘Assurance’, which unfortunately webster and the rest of the English dictionary available, in hard cover or online - disagree with you. But nice try.
They know a bit more about the Budapest Memorandum than some drooling trolling nobody posting on here
LMAO! *THEY* Who are *they*? Are you referring to WIKI? I just gave you it said about ‘military assistance’! LMAO! Again, it’s written in English, man.
And are those MORE personal insult you resorted to again?
:)
Back at yah, baby >:D
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Stick to the issues and do NOT resort to petty personal insults. Continued behaviour of this sort will result in the topic being locked.
Hi Dan-
Did you just looked at my post, deleted it, after receiving the email notification, and totally missed the instigated post/s prompting these exchanges? I'm not accusing of any bias around here, as I keep these things in check.
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Well after US talks have twice failed it looks like the UK is giving it a go:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-crisis-moscow-accepts-uk-talks-invite-amid-fears-russian-invasion-is-imminent-12522361
I don't really hold out any hope here possibly just an attempt to say we've tried and possibly a stalling action in case the Russians decide to attack early before their fleet have arrived in the Black Sea before the Ukrainian military have really gotten to grips with how to use those anti tank rocket launchers we sent them. They arrived in the country about a day ago now, my guess is that they now need to decide where they will be dispersed among Ukrainian troops. They'll no doubt need them along the whole of the Ukrainian border except that which borders Poland. 2000 anti tank rocket launchers care going to take time to distribute after deciding where they go then there is training the troops on how to use them, that may not take too long depending upon complexity, maybe an instruction manual or You Tube video.
So I'm going to guess they have about decided upon distribution and will be sending the stuff off to the front in the next day or so. So possibly after the weekend Ukrainian troops might start getting to grips with the stuff at best. Still that leaves Ukraine with problems of Russian air superiority and no doubt other issues that still need addressing.
The Tory MP mentioned in the article that he reckons conflict is inevitable and I'm thinking he is probably right.
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I'm guessing there are a lot of people in general not just on this forum who have people they know out in Ukraine, friends, family, in-laws, etc who may be in harm's way in a possible Russian Invasion. Anyone here concerned about people they know out in Ukraine who might end up having to face such a scenario?
Worst case I think will be if it ends up with Ukraine's cities being bombarded and hence shelled out. Many civilian casualties likely, homes destroyed. Then of course all the places we've visited over the years no longer as they were.
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The US embassy in Ukraine has requested the evacuation of all non-essential staff amid increasing fears of an imminent Russian invasion and the arrival overnight of arms deliveries promised by President Joe Biden, according to a CNN report.
US evacuations are likely to start “as early as next week”, the US cable news network said, citing a source close to the Ukrainian government. It marks the embassy’s shift in focus towards “helping Ukraine bolster its defences in the face of growing Russian aggression”.
The embassy in Kyiv also said on Twitter that the first batch of fresh US assistance had arrived in Ukraine, which includes weaponry described as “200,000 pounds of lethal aid, including ammunition for the frontline defenders of Ukraine”.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/22/us-embassy-in-ukraine-requests-staff-evacuation-amid-war-fears
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Well done the USA for stepping-up also.
It will anger GQBlues of course because he says the USA shouldn't "give a shit" about Ukraine..maybe influenced by having a Russian wife.
I'm well aware other members of this forum have Russian and Ukrainian wives but have kept a dignified silence over the ever more disturbing developments between Russia and Ukraine...some may have family members actually involved,so let us hope for everyones sake that the situation calms down and common-sense prevails to prevent war breaking out between the two countries.
Well done to Estonia,Latvia and Lithuania too for supplying US made Anti-Tank and Anti-Aircraft missiles to Ukraine today.
Personally i feel that the better armed Ukraine is the less chance Putin will invade.
In another development the German Navy Chief Vice Admiral Kay-Achim Schoenbach has had to resign after making pro-Russian/Putin comments.
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Indeed Grumpy, sone here will be the other side of the fence in having Russian wives/partners. While Russia's actions don't necessarily represent their standpoint for some it may not be an easy one if their other half is from the other side.
The US evacuating the families of its Embassy staff is symbolic I think. To me it looks like they are all gearing up for what may be the inevitable.
Recent update on that Russian Armada:
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43965/russias-landing-ships-are-headed-to-the-mediterranean-to-join-a-growing-armada
Confirms they are headed in the direction of the Med/Black Sea. If they first conduct military exercises in the Med before moving to the Black Sea then guessing possible invasion of Ukraine could very potentially be around early February, so not long.
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Indeed the $200 million of US ammo etc will no doubt cone in handy for Ukraine.
The Baltic States are sending Ukraine anti-tank and anti-aircraft equipment, US made, the anti-aircraft stuff it will no doubt desperately need. Whether it will be enough or sufficient to take out a lot of Russian military planes who knows, they would need to I think.
http://www.voanews.com/a/blinken-authorizes-baltic-countries-to-send-us-weapons-to-ukraine/6408170.html
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Indeed Grumpy, sone here will be the other side of the fence in having Russian wives/partners. While Russia's actions don't necessarily represent their standpoint for some it may not be an easy one if their other half is from the other side.
The US evacuating the families of its Embassy staff is symbolic I think. To me it looks like they are all gearing up for what may be the inevitable.
Recent update on that Russian Armada:
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43965/russias-landing-ships-are-headed-to-the-mediterranean-to-join-a-growing-armada (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43965/russias-landing-ships-are-headed-to-the-mediterranean-to-join-a-growing-armada)
Confirms they are headed in the direction of the Med/Black Sea. If they first conduct military exercises in the Med before moving to the Black Sea then guessing possible invasion of Ukraine could very potentially be around early February, so not long.
NATO has announced they will also be sending ships to the Med to conduct large-scale military exercises "Neptune strike 22" starting Monday for an initial two week period.
These will include the US Aircraft Carrier USS "Harry Truman".
The Netherlands has announced they will also be sending arms if requested by Ukraine.
In Ukraine civilians are volunteering for Territorial Defense Battalions and are training to fight a Guerrilla war if Russia invades.
Deputy PM Dominic Raab said today that it's "extremely unlikely " that British troops will be sent to Ukraine,but that the UK will do whatever else is necessary if Russia invades Ukraine.
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ZIP. Nothing but hot air.
But the flip side to this is I’m glad I’m able to make significant progress in educating and enlightening greater understanding of what the Budapest Memorandum was really all about. It was in English after all.
Colonialism continues.
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Well done the USA for stepping-up also.
Personally i feel that the better armed Ukraine is the less chance Putin will invade.
This seems like a dog and pony show.
Russia leadership isn't stupid, they would have known the likelihood of additional arms being sent to Ukraine. Despite this, they continued to delay their 'invasion', until presumably Ukraine was armed better. Doesn't make sense, hence I don't think a genuine invasion was ever on the table as a real option. I hold that had Russia really wanted to take over Ukraine militarily they would have done it in a flash. They would have left no time for the west to pound their chest about preventing an invasion, that wasn't going to actually happen. If all this is correct, then who knows what REALLY this is all about?
Fathertime!
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The Budapest Memorandum was prepared in English, Ukrainian, and Russian. It does not commit the US, or Britain, to defend Ukraine in the event of an attack. Russia has already breached the Treaty, and continues to do so. What current actions prove, is that Iran and North Korea would be foolish to give up their nuclear programs.
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NATO has announced they will also be sending ships to the Med to conduct large-scale military exercises "Neptune strike 22" starting Monday for an initial two week period.
These will include the US Aircraft Carrier USS "Harry Truman".
The Netherlands has announced they will also be sending arms if requested by Ukraine.
In Ukraine civilians are volunteering for Territorial Defense Battalions and are training to fight a Guerrilla war if Russia invades.
Deputy PM Dominic Raab said today that it's "extremely unlikely " that British troops will be sent to Ukraine,but that the UK will do whatever else is necessary if Russia invades Ukraine.
Ukraine military must have seen my advice in here CB ;D
I think if Ukraine can show the Russians that they have a credible defence against many of their attacks and an invasion could prove very costly to their military then the Russians might decide not to invade. The anti-tank rockets help a lot with that and if they can get anti aircraft stuff from the Baltic States that can help also. Having a strong guerilla warfare/terrorist network already set up ready to combat the Russians may help also. Holding territory as the victor while still being attack on a long term basis, well they've been there before with Afghanistan and it's no joy. In the end a lot of occupying nation's end up pulling out of territory they won due to it just becoming too much trouble for it too control. If the Russians also think that they will have to shell a lot of the cities thereby leaving an economic wasteland that they inherit and problems they may think twice also.
I think sending weapons to Ukraine is our and their best course of action. Talk of troops on the ground has re-emerged somewhat in the UK but I think that will cause more problems by dragging us into the conflict and causing casualties on our side which will be damaging at home. As rightfully said it is ultimately Ukraine's fight.
Just a case of seeing whether it will be enough for the Russians to back of now. Apparently both sides have been calling forward more manpower and arms so that can be a dangerous situation also, kind of arms race like. Just a question of holding tight I guess.
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Well I say it's not our fight but for some it appears so:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-crisis-the-britons-fighting-in-the-trenches-against-russians-after-starting-new-lives-12524652
Apparently it seems a good way to get a Ukrainian girl. Both these Brits are fitted up with Ukrainian wives (or to be). They've bought a house in town and are ready to defend Ukraine. Like me the guy barely speaks any Russian but that didn't stop him. So there could be go in this idea, become a war tourist earn the admiration of a local girl and hope the Russians don't attack blowing all troops to pieces in an instant.
Hmmnn.... I will have to sit and think on this one :-\
Apparently I can get residency/citizenship for life and move to the picturesque and tranquil Shirokino practically for free! :D
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The Budapest Memorandum was prepared in English, Ukrainian, and Russian. It does not commit the US, or Britain, to defend Ukraine in the event of an attack. Russia has already breached the Treaty, and continues to do so. What current actions prove, is that Iran and North Korea would be foolish to give up their nuclear programs.
Which was my original point back in post 215 about other countries now not trusting the west regarding de-escalating their Nuclear weapons build-ups, in response to GQBlues asking why the USA "should give a shit about Ukraine ", who then launched his tirade of attempted deflection posts....which didn't work. :)
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Well I say it's not our fight but for some it appears so:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-crisis-the-britons-fighting-in-the-trenches-against-russians-after-starting-new-lives-12524652 (http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-crisis-the-britons-fighting-in-the-trenches-against-russians-after-starting-new-lives-12524652)
Apparently it seems a good way to get a Ukrainian girl. Both these Brits are fitted up with Ukrainian wives (or to be). They've bought a house in town and are ready to defend Ukraine. Like me the guy barely speaks any Russian but that didn't stop him. So there could be go in this idea, become a war tourist earn the admiration of a local girl and hope the Russians don't attack blowing all troops to pieces in an instant.
Hmmnn.... I will have to sit and think on this one :-\
Apparently I can get residency/citizenship for life and move to the picturesque and tranquil Shirokino practically for free! :D
Would you fancy spending weeks/months in freezing cold snow-filled trenches .?
I'm not sure you'd meet the kind of girl you like in a place like that..or be paid the money to attract her on your R&R in Odessa :)
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Boris Johnson has just stated in the Commons that after talks last night Germany will not go ahead with Nord stream 2 if Russia invades Ukraine.
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GB News has just been speaking to a Ukrainian who works for the Kyiv Independent and he said 32% of Ukrainians are signing-up for the Territorial Defense Batallions.
He also confirmed how popular the Brits are now and the UK is the most popular country outside Ukraine. :)
The anti-tank missile delivery is the talk of Ukraine and how it was so needed and the timing of it.
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Boris Johnson has just stated in the Commons that after talks last night Germany will not go ahead with Nord stream 2 if Russia invades Ukraine.
Which (In my opinion) makes it a given that Russia isn't and never intended on invading Ukraine. So if that is the case what is really going on is a curiosity (To me).
Fathertime!
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Would you fancy spending weeks/months in freezing cold snow-filled trenches .?
I'm not sure you'd meet the kind of girl you like in a place like that..or be paid the money to attract her on your R&R in Odessa :)
Yeah you have a point CB, unfortunately for Ukraine I'm not one who does well in cold weather so need warmer climates to operate. Shame as I reckon I could have turned any potential battle around for them ;D
To be honest I'm more a one man army type of guy, operating with others as a unit would just rain on my parade.
Noticed what you said below CB that is surely great news for us Brits assuming Ukraine as a country survives of course. Hopefully now they will stop scamming us and see us in a better light :)
Reckon making good on potential good will out of our country's support is probably better going as a civilian to (hopefully) enjoy the favour of the women rather than spend time in the trenches and potentially miss out on a lot or all of that.
What you say is true also, they never showed the women they were with in the report, lol!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKf0_vi2zLE
Ahhh! Such nervous Nelly talk! What can happen? It isn't like the bombs will be exploding in America! All the dying will happen in Ukraine, and all these zealots pushing for war will get their wishes fulfilled. So I'm not even sure why EU's Josef Borrell is so nervous. After all, Ukraine is armed with British fish and chips, er..sorry anti-tank pellets. And with brass-balled Biden around, nothing can stop the home of the brave (as long as we're fighting somewhere else, heheh). So let's flatten Kyiv!!!
You just gotta love the great U-S-of-A, man!!! Especially when Democrats are ruling. I mean look at how deserted Libya's beaches had become these days!! Look at all the construction going on in Iraq and Afghanistan? We love fighting for our country and freedom on someone else's country!!!! Nothing like having another country's stooged to die for our military's benefit now, infrastructure industries later.
Hell, even the UK have a lot of economic interest with a flattened Kyiv. Imagine all the construction that will be needed when the smoke clears! LMAO. Why else would they be sending arms and push the Ukrainians into a war they can't possible win.[size=78%].[/size]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKf0_vi2zLE
Ahhh! Such nervous Nelly talk! What can happen? It isn't like the bombs will be exploding in America! All the dying will happen in Ukraine, and all these zealots pushing for war will get their wishes fulfilled. So I'm not even sure why EU's Josef Borrell is so nervous. After all, Ukraine is armed with British fish and chips, er..sorry anti-tank pellets. And with brass-balled Biden around, nothing can stop the home of the brave (as long as we're fighting somewhere else, heheh). So let's flatten Kyiv!!!
You just gotta love the great U-S-of-A, man!!! Especially when Democrats are ruling. I mean look at how deserted Libya's beaches had become these days!! Look at all the construction going on in Iraq and Afghanistan? We love fighting for our country and freedom on someone else's country!!!! Nothing like having another country's stooged to die for our military's benefit now, infrastructure industries later.
Hell, even the UK have a lot of economic interest with a flattened Kyiv. Imagine all the construction that will be needed when the smoke clears! LMAO. Why else would they be sending arms and push the Ukrainians into a war they can't possible win.[size=78%].[/size]
Well the Ukrainians might finally get rid of their Soviet concrete block apartments I guess. I think you're right though GQ that there is potential in destruction being wrought in Ukraine for some western nations potentially. That seems an awful thought but it's how some of the top people in the west think though, US, UK and the rest. It's kind of ironic that Ukraine sees the west as their saviours, allies what they want to get close to but what they see on the face of it isn't necessarily all of what the west is. Underneath there can be those real wealthy elite who may see more self satisfying motives for themselves.
Rebuilding itself is not in itself bad but not really caring if a conflict occurs where much misery is likely to entail to open up those rebuilding opportunities is another matter I think. My thoughts are if that came about then those wealthy western elites would be after a big stake in the investment in any future Ukraine. Ukraine wouldn't have any further option but to accept Western dominance of its country or be left with a wasteland. Essentially they would be trading Russian dominance for Western dominance and suffering a war over it. I guess it could even end up my calling in life, helping in rebuilding Ukraine if it went that way.
Anyhow this article reckons we could know whether there may be an imminent attack from Russian movements mobilizing to attack pattern:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60120217.amp
So satellite images may give us the first insight, missile units moving into position, missiles firing etc, just how much advance warning that may be detected is unclear but it's likely to be pretty short earning before it happens I'm guessing but I guess any warning is better than none. Possibly we might get the heads up from any talk of a possible attack being 'very imminent' from the US or UK government before it happens I'm guessing.
Still no certainty of an attack, Russia seems to be after the west addressing so of it's concerns perhaps. I still can't see why they would go to such a build up just over their concerns though in the way they have. Russia invaded the Crimea and an incursion into the Donbass before and along with fleet movements, etc it kind of looks like they may want a lot more Ukrainian land this time, quite possibly all of it.
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The West didn't amass troops on Ukraine's border. They didn't send provocateurs across the border in preparation for an invasion or war games. The West wasn't responsible for cyber attacks on Ukraine, or other countries (Canada's office of Global Affairs, for example, after a statement on the ongoing conflict).
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Well the Ukrainians might finally get rid of their Soviet concrete block apartments I guess. I think you're right though GQ that there is potential in destruction being wrought in Ukraine for some western nations potentially. That seems an awful thought but it's how some of the top people in the west think though, US, UK and the rest. It's kind of ironic that Ukraine sees the west as their saviours, allies what they want to get close to but what they see on the face of it isn't necessarily all of what the west is. Underneath there can be those real wealthy elite who may see more self satisfying motives for themselves.
Rebuilding itself is not in itself bad but not really caring if a conflict occurs where much misery is likely to entail to open up those rebuilding opportunities is another matter I think. My thoughts are if that came about then those wealthy western elites would be after a big stake in the investment in any future Ukraine. Ukraine wouldn't have any further option but to accept Western dominance of its country or be left with a wasteland. Essentially they would be trading Russian dominance for Western dominance and suffering a war over it. I guess it could even end up my calling in life, helping in rebuilding Ukraine if it went that way.
Anyhow this article reckons we could know whether there may be an imminent attack from Russian movements mobilizing to attack pattern:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60120217.amp (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60120217.amp)
So satellite images may give us the first insight, missile units moving into position, missiles firing etc, just how much advance warning that may be detected is unclear but it's likely to be pretty short earning before it happens I'm guessing but I guess any warning is better than none. Possibly we might get the heads up from any talk of a possible attack being 'very imminent' from the US or UK government before it happens I'm guessing.
Still no certainty of an attack, Russia seems to be after the west addressing so of it's concerns perhaps. I still can't see why they would go to such a build up just over their concerns though in the way they have. Russia invaded the Crimea and an incursion into the Donbass before and along with fleet movements, etc it kind of looks like they may want a lot more Ukrainian land this time, quite possibly all of it.
So..if Russia invades and flattens Ukraine...as you think they will....how will that provide work for Western companies.?
The whole point of Putin invading would be to extend the Russian territory again,as he's already done with Crimea.
Any re-building would be done by Russian companies.as was the bridge from Russia to Crimea :rolleyes:
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The West didn't amass troops on Ukraine's border. They didn't send provocateurs across the border in preparation for an invasion or war games. The West wasn't responsible for cyber attacks on Ukraine, or other countries (Canada's office of Global Affairs, for example, after a statement on the ongoing conflict).
Don't let facts spoil someone else's narrative.
The West didn't take Crimea either...
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A former member of the Ukrainian Government was interviewed on Sky News last night in Kiev and he was saying he's a bit puzzled by all the current rhetoric coming from the West....as are all the senior Ukrainian politicians he has spoken with .
He said those Russian troops have been on our borders for the last seven years..nothing has changed.....so why all the talk about invasion now ?
The President of Ukraine was saying the same thing on tv a week ago.
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So..if Russia invades and flattens Ukraine...as you think they will....how will that provide work for Western companies.?
The whole point of Putin invading would be to extend the Russian territory again,as he's already done with Crimea.
Any re-building would be done by Russian companies.as was the bridge from Russia to Crimea :rolleyes:
Oh, yeah I meant they only likely gain if the Russians are pushed out of Ukraine somehow after the supposed attack. It will be unlikely if Russia takes Ukraine of course. My guess is the Russians will just set up make shift accomodation for any of the displaced population to sleep in. Though a lot would tend to focus on how many survive Vs buildings left intact.
Kind of weird thinking that things could be that way. Part of me thinks the logic all suggests Putin wishes to invade but part also thinks they wouldn't really risk killing so many people, risk destroying so many peoples homes and ruining so many of their lives, would they?
It's all kind of a bit bizarre.
When you think a lot of this all came about because the EU back in 2014.
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A former member of the Ukrainian Government was interviewed on Sky News last night in Kiev and he was saying he's a bit puzzled by all the current rhetoric coming from the West....as are all the senior Ukrainian politicians he has spoken with .
He said those Russian troops have been on our borders for the last seven years..nothing has changed.....so why all the talk about invasion now ?
The President of Ukraine was saying the same thing on tv a week ago.
Exactly. The the West and the MSM has started pounding the war drums focused on the Ukrainian border since Biden has been in office. One only needs to question why? "Russia, Russia, Russia" Russian troops have been there for 7 years. Russian puppets have been in charge of the Ukrainian government since the break up of the FSU. Why would Putin, love him or hate him need to invade Ukraine now? The answer is he doesn't and never has.
If you understand that NATO is the army of the Rothchilds and the WEF, that also includes the US, things might begin to get more clearer. If you look closely you'll see that Putin's Russia have been blamed for everything from Hillary losing the election to the release of secret emails and documents to war in the Middle East. Of course none of the worlds media is going to discuss this aspect. It's a case of what they are not telling us being more important than what they are telling us. Ukraine means nothing to either side of the conflict it is only where both sides are drawing the proverbial line in the sand. The Rothchilds through NATO intend to pound Putin into submission and Putin standing up to it. The deaths and destruction of Ukraine means not one wit, to either side
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Exactly. The the West and the MSM has started pounding the war drums focused on the Ukrainian border since Biden has been in office. One only needs to question why? "Russia, Russia, Russia" Russian troops have been there for 7 years. Russian puppets have been in charge of the Ukrainian government since the break up of the FSU. Why would Putin, love him or hate him need to invade Ukraine now? The answer is he doesn't and never has.
You have changed your tune big time.
Of course, I agree that the US is fomenting as much as it can.
If you understand that NATO is the army of the Rothchilds and the WEF, that also includes the US, things might begin to get more clearer. If you look closely you'll see that Putin's Russia have been blamed for everything from Hillary losing the election to the release of secret emails and documents to war in the Middle East. Of course none of the worlds media is going to discuss this aspect. It's a case of what they are not telling us being more important than what they are telling us. Ukraine means nothing to either side of the conflict it is only where both sides are drawing the proverbial line in the sand. The Rothchilds through NATO intend to pound Putin into submission and Putin standing up to it. The deaths and destruction of Ukraine means not one wit, to either side
Oh my, 'the Rothchilds'....reminds me of the good old 'pied piper' type argument again! Well overall something is fishy, and the public doesn't hear the real truth, that I'm convinced of.
Fathertime!
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A former member of the Ukrainian Government was interviewed on Sky News last night in Kiev and he was saying he's a bit puzzled by all the current rhetoric coming from the West....as are all the senior Ukrainian politicians he has spoken with .
Probably has to do with Nordstream 2 and energy money....anything we (The US) can do to try to enrich ourselves at others unnecessary expense.
He said those Russian troops have been on our borders for the last seven years..nothing has changed.....so why all the talk about invasion now ?
The President of Ukraine was saying the same thing on tv a week ago.
Interesting that the president of Ukraine would be saying that, when he his nation is receiving some freebee weaponry.
Fathertime!
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Facts
LMAO! That's certainly the most (mis)used word on this board the past 6-7 years running.
Probably has to do with Nordstream 2 and energy money....anything we (The US) can do to try to enrich ourselves at others unnecessary expense.
Interesting that the president of Ukraine would be saying that, when he his nation is receiving some freebee weaponry.
Fathertime!
You think? Germany's new social democrat administration are hedging on bailing out of any NATO's war drums. Much to the chagrin of the *protectors* of democracy and peace, of course (a.k.a. the US and the UK, NATO top-brass, which technically is still the US and the UK - LMAO), though not as much as the rest of the alliance. Heck, even Ukraine seem too placid about what's going on along their borders in comparison to news coming from the US.
Instead of sending arms and beating their war drums. Germany is setting up hospitals in the Baltics, and even in Kyiv, instead. Again, much to the angst of the symbols of peace and democracy, LMAO!. Smart move actually. One flip of the switch in Moscow, millions of Germans would instantly freeze. By the way, the word *German* needs changing. According to the US's snowflakes and numbnuts, that is just plain shameful!!! They really need to look into this soon and make changes. They should be referred to as Gerpersons from now on! Bastards, I say!!!!
Even the so-called *serious economic sanctions* BDB, the brain dead Biden - leader of the world's symbol of peace and democracy, had been waving it around like a warning stick on Moscow by threatening to shut down dollar currency against Russia (SWIFT). Germany isn't kosher to the idea either. The largest economy in EU/Europe - if that happens, Germany will be the first to stumble even before Moscow feels a ripple. But hey, its Biden. You didn't really expected him to had thought this through, did you?
Then, like a predictable stooge, flexing his 80-year muscle by calling 8,500 soldiers to be at readiness. He plans on having the first unit for immediate deployment made up of the Army's fiercest LGBTQs, blacks, Mexicans, and the Unvaccinated. Masks On!!! They will be needed to defend our country and freedom halfway around the phucking globe despite the fact Ukraine had nothing to do with $12.00 Dodger Dogs, $400.00 SOFI Stadium Parking spots, Kanye&Kim's divorce, $5.00/gal gasoline and keeping Fauci on the federal payroll.
The UK is not any better. They're sending arms and 30 'elite' fish-eating, beer-guzzling fighters to teach 45 non-English speaking Ukrainian soldiers how to use 2,000 anti-tank missiles, written in English; to neutralize the 20 Russian tanks amassed along the border. Further provoking an escalation for war over a country and its people who is being used as a dispensable pawn like they don't even matter.
Seriously, doesn't it seem rather strange that there doesn't seem to be any confrontational, heated, damning words and calls for war between Kyiv/Moscow-Zelensky/Putin that you see and read here? Yet western media is literally flooding languages of war about the 'evil empire's' imminent invasion, and plans of eating little children & *grandmas lined-up with flowers in their hands* of Ukraine.
But seriously-II, forget that for every action nets a reaction. Because in the end, it matters not who trips first, Ukraine will most certainly loses *YUGELY* if this war comes to fruition. Regardless of the why/who/how.
Having CNN/ABC/MSNBC around, who needs Al-Jazeera/RT around.
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A former member of the Ukrainian Government was interviewed on Sky News last night in Kiev and he was saying he's a bit puzzled by all the current rhetoric coming from the West....as are all the senior Ukrainian politicians he has spoken with .
He said those Russian troops have been on our borders for the last seven years..nothing has changed.....so why all the talk about invasion now ?
The President of Ukraine was saying the same thing on tv a week ago.
There have been troops on the border since the last invasion of Ukraine by Russia. However, the numbers have increased dramatically in the past 10 months. Further, there were no Russian troops on Ukraine's border with Belarus in the past.
I think those statements are intended for Putin, not the West.
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Probably has to do with Nordstream 2 and energy money....anything we (The US) can do to try to enrich ourselves at others unnecessary expense.
The US doesn't have enough natural gas to keep Europe supplied.
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. By the way, the word *German* needs changing. According to the US's snowflakes and numbnuts, that is just plain shameful!!! They really need to look into this soon and make changes. They should be referred to as Gerpersons from now on! Bastards, I say!!!!
I know you're being facetious, but German comes from Latin - Germanus. "Vir" is "man" in Latin, so no correlation.
Seriously, doesn't it seem rather strange that there doesn't seem to be any confrontational, heated, damning words and calls for war between Kyiv/Moscow-Zelensky/Putin that you see and read here? Yet western media is literally flooding languages of war about the 'evil empire's' imminent invasion, and plans of eating little children & *grandmas lined-up with flowers in their hands* of Ukraine.
It doesn't seem strange at all. Ukraine is the country that will bear the brunt of any bellicosity, so avoiding it is in Ukraine's best interests.
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One flip of the switch in Moscow, millions of Germans would instantly freeze. By the way, the word *German* needs changing. According to the US's snowflakes and numbnuts, that is just plain shameful!!! They really need to look into this soon and make changes. They should be referred to as Gerpersons from now on!
Germans are well prepared and have huge amounts of LNG and other fuel reserves. IIRC 4th in the world. Although the reserves are somewhat depleted, they have enough energy to get them to summer. They mothballed a number coal electricity plants as well instead of trashing them. They already produce about half of their electricity from renewable sources. Sure, it could get tough but they won't freeze. Certification of NordStream2 is on hold until at least June, giving them a bit of leverage as well.
Their military stance remains defensive in nature, along with supporting UN missions and humanitarian efforts for obvious historical reasons. It will remain that way unless a direct threat is present, or article 5 of the NATO treaty is invoked.
They have been working for years to make the German language more gender neutral.
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I remember a a couple of years ago a member seemed certain that war would follow the virus. He was convinced that Russia planned to invade Ukraine and that it would happen in February. It didn't happen in the year he suspected but he seemed certain that it would be coming in a future that time of year and seemed to have the inside track, perhaps he did. Could be that this is the time and could be this February.
While signs point to an invasion to me, I still wonder if the Russians are really willing for mass devastation to unfold on their doorstep at their doing. Even if they get the land of they are left with cities to rebuild it might not be such a great edition to the Russian Federation. Possibly I guess population could move into Russia but Ukraine's economy would be truely busted I'm sure.
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While signs point to an invasion to me, I still wonder if the Russians are really willing for mass devastation to unfold on their doorstep at their doing. Even if they get the land of they are left with cities to rebuild it might not be such a great edition to the Russian Federation. Possibly I guess population could move into Russia but Ukraine's economy would be truely busted I'm sure.
Come on trench.... You’re hoping the invasion will happen and the economy crashes, so those hot young, mini skirt wearing models will be less picky about which man helps them escape Ukraine 😜
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Come on trench.... You’re hoping the invasion will happen and the economy crashes, so those hot young, mini skirt wearing models will be less picky about which man helps them escape Ukraine 😜
Lol, thought never crossed my mind ;D
Seriously though personally my situation is more suited to Ukraine not getting taken over by Russia in many ways. Possibly it might ignite a ban on westerners being able to visit Russia not to mention no visa-free independent Ukraine anymore. I personally would genuinely be horrified to see devastation being brought on Ukrainian people, some have been nice during my time there and it's not nice to see anyway.
If anything is going to happen odds are it will likely be in February, possibly early February. This article tells us that more Russian naval ships are out to conduct military drills:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/russian-warship-flotilla-spotted-off-norway-probably-bound-for-irish-coast-1.4786382
3rd - 8th Feb near Cork, Ireland they reckon. Could that co-inside with a Russian attack on Ukraine? A case of basing naval ships near western countries as a safeguard against any thought of western countries moving in to help Ukraine in a snap change of mind.
Boris Johnson can't seem to decide whether to send troops in or not in recent reports. I personally don't think he will send troops into Ukraine it's too much of a gamble I reckon.
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So..if Russia invades and flattens Ukraine...as you think they will....how will that provide work for Western companies.?
That's a toughie (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-finalizing-plans-to-divert-gas-to-europe-if-russia-cuts-off-supply/ar-AAT7PuJ?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz)...let me think.
Too bad the Nord Stream 2 project was so close to finishing. Dammit!!
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That's a toughie (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-finalizing-plans-to-divert-gas-to-europe-if-russia-cuts-off-supply/ar-AAT7PuJ?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz)...let me think.
Too bad the Nord Stream 2 project was so close to finishing. Dammit!!
Since all us numbskulls have concluded it's all about Nord Steam 2/money, I would assume all the key countries in this also know. IF what we are saying is correct, then what does each country get for playing along with the charade. Assuming there is no invasion, I wonder who is going to be the real loser in this 'fracas'.
Fathertime!
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I know you're being facetious, but German comes from Latin - Germanus. "Vir" is "man" in Latin, so no correlation.
Hhhmm…here I thought it was Germani.
Besides, there’s nothing facetious with current social progressive attitude in the US today. Sarcastic? Maybe.
It doesn't seem strange at all. Ukraine is the country that will bear the brunt of any bellicosity, so avoiding it is in Ukraine's best interests.
Not sure how this related to what I said. ‘Strange’ was used to compare the distinct difference in the seeming attitude displayed so far by Kyiv/Zelensy vs the near-panicked coverage by the US media.
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Apparently the UK Defence Chief thinks a Russian-Ukraine war is inevitable. He also is certain that there are a large number of Russian spies & special forces already in Ukraine, so the clock is ticking:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/special-forces-bid-save-brits-26048368.amp
The SAS are apparently over there practicing for an evacuation of British citizens.
Ordinary Ukrainians seem to be finally jumping up and getting involved in fighting for their nation including this old Mother:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ukrainian-mum-buys-huge-rifle-26047160
Looks like she really went nuts and shelled out on some of the best gear going! Arms dealers must be making a fortune out all of this. With so much panic buying of guns & gear going on they might be a shortage of weaponry to buy soon like our big toilet paper crises.
Could mean though that more chance of the Russians just dumping their huge hyper thermal nuclear missiles on Ukrainian cities completely leveling them.
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This Ukrainian General reckons that Ukraine may be most likely to be invaded around the 20th Feb when the Winter Olympics end and Russian war games in Belarus. Maybe, apparently the Winter Olympics are in China.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ukrainian-general-hints-potential-date-26054672
I'm still not so sure, it's feasible but they may just end any war games early and not care about the Olympics and attack. The longer the Russians wait the longer the west have to send some decent anti aircraft and anti missile stuff.
He reckons an attack is not inevitable. After getting everyone worked up it might of course come to nothing.
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This Ukrainian General reckons that Ukraine may be most likely to be invaded around the 20th Feb when the Winter Olympics end and Russian war games in Belarus. Maybe, apparently the Winter Olympics are in China.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ukrainian-general-hints-potential-date-26054672
I'm still not so sure, it's feasible but they may just end any war games early and not care about the Olympics and attack. The longer the Russians wait the longer the west have to send some decent anti aircraft and anti missile stuff.
He reckons an attack is not inevitable. After getting everyone worked up it might of course come to nothing.
Trench, you seem to the only person getting worked up about this.
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Trench, you seem to the only person getting worked up about this.
If you see the article on Ukrainian civilians buying guns then you'll see that Ukrainians are getting worked up. I think this situation has interesting elements to it such as foreign fighters getting involved etc.
I think for sure though that for us on this board that it's probably getting to the point where not a lot more will happen unless the Russians actually do go in. I think it's pretty much at the point where there is little more to get worked up on and we just sit this one out and wait and see.
I'll probably continue to contact Ukrainian women but don't think I'll be visiting until Russian troops have stood down. Hopefully Ukrainians won't end up going crazy fighting each other with all their arms they've bought themselves by then.
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Apparently, it's possible to join the Ruskies as well as a foreign fighter:
http://coffeeordie.com/foreign-fighters-ukraine-russian-invasion/
Towards the end of the article it tells us about 1,300 have done so mainly from Germany, Serbia, etc.
So take you're pick, anyone here thinking of joining up on either side? Or out in Ukraine at the moment?
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Come on trench.... You’re hoping the invasion will happen and the economy crashes, so those hot young, mini skirt wearing models will be less picky about which man helps them escape Ukraine 😜
no no no, if Russia in some way annexes Ukraine he would be forced to pay for Visa to visit, that is out of the question for the piss poor Trench, he told us so many times now.
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no no no, if Russia in some way annexes Ukraine he would be forced to pay for Visa to visit, that is out of the question for the piss poor Trench, he told us so many times now.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. :thumbsup:
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Ka-Ching!!!!!
Here we go fellas! We are again in desperate need to feed the beast! Screw the citizens of Ukraine! The US is in supersonic gear to hasten this war and push you guys in the brink of massive devastation. Regardless of what Ukrainians or even Zelensky feels about their situation, the US is the ultimate judge of their welfare.
ONE DAY after the meeting held, this happened:
Russia-Ukraine Crisis Deescalating As NATO Countries Break From Bellicose US-UK Stance
http://zububrothers.com/2022/01/25/russia-ukraine-crisis-deescalating-as-nato-countries-break-from-bellicose-us-uk-stance/
Yet Nanci Pelosi didn't want to waste any time at all, despite the sentiment expressed about de-escalation.
"..hastening a war-friendly posture without opportunity for dissent as concerns over a military invasion abound."
http://theintercept.com/2022/01/25/ukraine-defense-bill-democrats/ (http://theintercept.com/2022/01/25/ukraine-defense-bill-democrats/)
Whenever there's a *bipartisan* teamwork legislated by our politicians, WORLD WATCH OUT!!! The US desperately need to protect our liberty and freedom and cash in at your expense.
Cute.
This is what the other aisle is saying and believe about the situation in Ukraine:
Ukraine’s NSC Sec. Danilov tells BBC_UA he doesn’t expect an imminent invasion and doesn’t share “the panic,” which he connects to “geopolitical and domestic” processes in the West: “The buildup of Russian troops [at the Ukrainian border] isn’t as rapid as some claim”[/color]
http://twitter.com/atanessi/status/1485668665211199492]http://twitter.com/atanessi/status/1485668665211199492
Another top Ukraine official says there's no imminent threat of a new Russian invasion. Danilov of @ NSDC_ua says West has it wrong. So is West blowing this out of proportion? Does US have intel it's not sharing with Kyiv? Is Kyiv deliberately downplaying?"
http://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1485680489591721997
If any of you still believes 2014 was a grassroot movement, go hug Fauci in the hallways. It took longer than planned, but those deplorables decided to get someone else in 2016 other than Hillary at the helm. But that's all behind us now, so onward to the show.
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Russian Amphibious naval ships have entered the Med and look to be heading to the Black Sea:
http://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/russian-landing-ships-enter-the-mediterranean-sea/
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According to good old CNN, Ukraine has had about enough of the US trying to fan the flames of war. So if Ukraine is fed up with us, why are we still there pretending to 'defend' them?
New discord between Ukraine and US plays right into Putin's hands
New signs of a fracture between the US and Ukraine over the imminence of a possible Russian invasion could seriously undermine President Joe Biden's muscular front against Vladimir Putin in their escalating standoff.
Frustration in Kyiv has mounted in recent days over escalating US rhetoric on the crisis, even as Moscow pours more troops into positions near the Ukrainian border. Washington and its allies have been waging an unusually open and vocal public relations warfare campaign -- an approach that primarily appears rooted in genuine fears of a major conflagration in Ukraine.
http://www.cnn.com/2022/01/28/politics/president-joe-biden-zelensky-putin-russia-ukraine/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2022/01/28/politics/president-joe-biden-zelensky-putin-russia-ukraine/index.html)
Fathertime!
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The US/UK desperately need another ‘war’. It’s been 4 long months! Flatten Kyiv so we can again flood the region with weapons of war.
Ka-Ching!
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According to good old CNN, Ukraine has had about enough of the US trying to fan the flames of war. So if Ukraine is fed up with us, why are we still there pretending to 'defend' them?
New discord between Ukraine and US plays right into Putin's hands
New signs of a fracture between the US and Ukraine over the imminence of a possible Russian invasion could seriously undermine President Joe Biden's muscular front against Vladimir Putin in their escalating standoff.
Frustration in Kyiv has mounted in recent days over escalating US rhetoric on the crisis, even as Moscow pours more troops into positions near the Ukrainian border. Washington and its allies have been waging an unusually open and vocal public relations warfare campaign -- an approach that primarily appears rooted in genuine fears of a major conflagration in Ukraine.
http://www.cnn.com/2022/01/28/politics/president-joe-biden-zelensky-putin-russia-ukraine/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2022/01/28/politics/president-joe-biden-zelensky-putin-russia-ukraine/index.html)
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FT, Ukrainians are shitting themselves and are starting to crack psychologically. It's not just Zelensky, the funny man who no longer seems to find things so cheerful, Ukrainian girls I message online well at first they were acting not so concerned, now they are increasingly overtly showing their distress. It's got to be a distressing situation being surrounded by the military of a much more powerful neighbour particularly as time gets on and the build up gets steadily larger.
I think Zelensky is partly right in what he says I don't think the west care that much in whether the situation gets wound up so that both Russia and Ukraine get into a more tense situation.
That said Ukraine wanted help so they were partly to blame on that one also I think. The military equipment help might well end up causing Ukraine worse problems as a result unless they get lucky and Russia is dissuaded by it. Last night I was watching a demo of the anti-tank stuff we sent them, they have just begun training with it. I'll be honest, it was ok but I'm not so sure the range is all that brilliant on it, not for modern warfare where a tank can blast away from a distance away. It will probably take out some tanks and when it hits home it seems to do that but unless it can fire further away then I'm not so sure. I'm no expert on that stuff, the range was a fair distance just not really far from what I could make out.
Possibly Zelensky might be catching onto the fact that he could well end up in the pocket of either the US camp or Russia in terms of Ukraine being controlled by a puppeteer from behind the scenes. Sure they want NATO but my guess is that they won't be so keen on US money interests holding sway in Ukraine and calling the shots. They're best hope is in avoiding war happening otherwise either the US or Russia could become their new masters.
Ukraine becoming the playground of the US, an interesting prospect.
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FT, Ukrainians are shitting themselves and are starting to crack psychologically. It's not just Zelensky, the funny man who no longer seems to find things so cheerful, Ukrainian girls I message online well at first they were acting not so concerned, now they are increasingly overtly showing their distress. It's got to be a distressing situation being surrounded by the military of a much more powerful neighbour particularly as time gets on and the build up gets steadily larger.
I think Zelensky is partly right in what he says I don't think the west care that much in whether the situation gets wound up so that both Russia and Ukraine get into a more tense situation.
That said Ukraine wanted help so they were partly to blame on that one also I think. The military equipment help might well end up causing Ukraine worse problems as a result unless they get lucky and Russia is dissuaded by it. Last night I was watching a demo of the anti-tank stuff we sent them, they have just begun training with it. I'll be honest, it was ok but I'm not so sure the range is all that brilliant on it, not for modern warfare where a tank can blast away from a distance away. It will probably take out some tanks and when it hits home it seems to do that but unless it can fire further away then I'm not so sure. I'm no expert on that stuff, the range was a fair distance just not really far from what I could make out.
Possibly Zelensky might be catching onto the fact that he could well end up in the pocket of either the US camp or Russia in terms of Ukraine being controlled by a puppeteer from behind the scenes. Sure they want NATO but my guess is that they won't be so keen on US money interests holding sway in Ukraine and calling the shots. They're best hope is in avoiding war happening otherwise either the US or Russia could become their new masters.
Ukraine becoming the playground of the US, an interesting prospect.
Meanwhile, in the real world, Ukrainians are pretty calm and just getting on with life as normal.
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Meanwhile, in the real world, Ukrainians are pretty calm and just getting on with life as normal.
They are getting on with life as best as normal as that's all they can do really. They are trying to remain calm of course but it's more a mask that is beginning to slip.
Here is the latest from a Putin insider who reckons that Ukraine would be finished within 48 hours:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10454611/Putins-build-forces-Ukraine-border-biggest-Cold-War-says-USs-general.html
With the devastating weapons at Putin's hands he may well be right.
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Yet with all these devastating weapons Russian armed forces were defeated in Afghanistan . :rolleyes:
15,000 of their armed forces were killed out there before they had to withdraw.
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Ukraine becoming the playground of the US, an interesting prospect.
I don't think it will get to that point. I don't think anybody wants that, aside from the US.
They are getting on with life as best as normal as that's all they can do really. They are trying to remain calm of course but it's more a mask that is beginning to slip.
Here is the latest from a Putin insider who reckons that Ukraine would be finished within 48 hours:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10454611/Putins-build-forces-Ukraine-border-biggest-Cold-War-says-USs-general.html
With the devastating weapons at Putin's hands he may well be right.
This will not happen either.
Yet with all these devastating weapons Russian armed forces were defeated in Afghanistan . :rolleyes:
15,000 of their armed forces were killed out there before they had to withdraw.
In recent times, war isn't what it could be. For example, Russia could completely annihilate Ukraine. The US could have wiped out every single person in Iraq/Afghanistan and avoided defeat. It just doesn't seem to work that way anymore. Militarily Partial victory, partial loss is all nations seem to strive for.
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They are getting on with life as best as normal as that's all they can do really. They are trying to remain calm of course but it's more a mask that is beginning to slip.
Here is the latest from a Putin insider who reckons that Ukraine would be finished within 48 hours:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10454611/Putins-build-forces-Ukraine-border-biggest-Cold-War-says-USs-general.html
With the devastating weapons at Putin's hands he may well be right.
Yes, the Daily Mail is such a great news source. :clapping: :clapping:
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Yet with all these devastating weapons Russian armed forces were defeated in Afghanistan . :rolleyes:
15,000 of their armed forces were killed out there before they had to withdraw.
Traditional war fighting and weaponry is not much use against asymmetrical warfare and insurgencies.
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Due to the anticipated massacre of the Ukrainian troops, despite being armed with highly ineffective near-obsolete British anti-tank missiles. France, in partnership with Canadian 'Tony Starks'-like war making wizards, decided to immediately shipped their highly secretive anti-tank weaponry. It is held by the Pentagon as the 'Equalizer'.
1,000 arrive late Friday afternoon, with 3,000 more in transit.
The first line of rehearsals were immediately conducted to put the fear on the Russian troops amassed along the frontline. Videos were uploaded on social media as part of propaganda campaign by the western powers. Pentagon intelligence have compiled proofs that both troops on the frontline are taking photos and videos of their locations, along with classified intelligence of troops movements, to their girlfriends on Tik Tok, Instagram and Facebook.
Here's the first devastating drill that took place last evening: Caution: For the weak of heart, please do not watch.
http://youtu.be/0owMuOuIuRw (http://youtu.be/0owMuOuIuRw)
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I don't think it will get to that point. I don't think anybody wants that, aside from the US.
This will not happen either.
In recent times, war isn't what it could be. For example, Russia could completely annihilate Ukraine. The US could have wiped out every single person in Iraq/Afghanistan and avoided defeat. It just doesn't seem to work that way anymore. Militarily Partial victory, partial loss is all nations seem to strive for.
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When the enemy is the population at large who do you reply heavy weaponry against?
Tanks are of no use against an enemy that fights from the shadows.
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Here's the first devastating drill that took place last evening: Caution: For the weak of heart, please do not watch.
http://youtu.be/0owMuOuIuRw (http://youtu.be/0owMuOuIuRw)
Did it explode on them afterwords? The panicked scream indicates danger.
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Our world is in turmoil. Ukraine had once again became the knot in the political tugging rope between global forces that constantly shun any sense of moral, responsibility, integrity and respect especially to the less advanced countries we label as 3rd world.
While Ukraine can not be classified as 3rd world, its current plight of having to balance its alliance today put it in a very unenviable, compromising and dangerous predicament.
Is an alliance with Russia really all that bad? Historically, it was both bloody, yet fulfilling. More or less depending on your perspective.
Is an alliance with Europe going to be good or bad? Historically, you need not look back a hundred years and understand the genocidal experience Ukrainians have had to endure at the hands of Europeans.
What about the US? Well, while there hasn't been much history with the US, Ukrainians need to simply excuse themselves in projecting what an alliance is like with the US, but just look at the many south American nations still skimming for survival much less prosperity in the shadows of Uncle Sam. Personally, especially the last quarter century, heightened in the past 10; American in my eyes, have completely lost what it ever stood for as that beacon on a hill.
All of these madness by the power nations against countries still reeling from the colonial era continues today. Albeit in many varying covert ways. Citizens of these nations have been blinded by their respective government it commits against humanity in so many varying forms.
The US bombing of the aid worker and his entire family, in the act of providing aid to the needy, and simply classified as an honest mistake. US soldiers caught pissing over dead Afghan Taliban soldiers in front to Afghans and children and laugh about it. These soldiers come home and are celebrated as heroes, thanks for their 'services'. We wonder why, Afghans didn't seem to be fully on board with the US showing them our type of democracy. As an America, the once United States, I laid witness front and center how 'we' conduct and orchestrate 'democracy', we force to everyone, here, I don't take long anymore to not take this seriously anymore either.
Terrorists, Jihadists, Pirates, etc...our societies have labeled these militants as the legions of evil these days. How can these demons behave this way in the 21st centuries. Refugees of global commerce...
Pirates. Remember the Somalian pirates? Ever wonder why Somalians have the need to become 'pirates'? Breaking maritime international law by capturing civilians/commercial ships, boarding it under artillery, demanding ransom?
So I ask, what would you do as an ordinary Somalian trying to feed your famished family when your own fishing grounds you once relied upon have all become sterile, if not hazardous to fish on? Western media have never told European citizens outright exactly why there are Somalian pirates terrorizing waters in and around their nation. Complicit in dumping their nuclear, toxic waste on Somalia, along with other African nations, are Germany, Italy, and France. Nations chiefly behind *sustainable energy, climate change/global warming initiatives, etc.../Paris Accord/ Kyoto Treaty*. Same nations that will brag to you about 'advancing their societies like no other.
What they won't tell you, just as it was in the documentary Darwin's Theory, and in some respect what is happening in Ukraine today - the fate that may befall upon them; trade its citizens their criminal complicity in exchange for weapons of war. Europeans dumped their toxic/nuclear waste in these countries territorial waters. Paving the way for future of these nations to remain at the mercy of the 'elite' amongst us.
http://theecologist.org/2009/mar/01/somalia-used-toxic-dumping-ground (http://theecologist.org/2009/mar/01/somalia-used-toxic-dumping-ground)
http://www.inigerian.com/environmental-racism-dumping-europes-toxic-wastes-in-africa-other-poor-countries/ (http://www.inigerian.com/environmental-racism-dumping-europes-toxic-wastes-in-africa-other-poor-countries/)
So yes, in the end I do feel so sorry for Ukraine, it matters not whether this war actually breaks out. Because either way, they are in a situation to having to choose to partner with the Devil they know, and the Devil they don't.
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What about the US? Well, while there hasn't been much history with the US, Ukrainians need to simply excuse themselves in projecting what an alliance is like with the US, but just look at the many south American nations still skimming for survival much less prosperity in the shadows of Uncle Sam. Personally, especially the last quarter century, heightened in the past 10; American in my eyes, have completely lost what it ever stood for as that beacon on a hill.
5 years ago this site would have had another riot when I made similiar statements. Nowadays many of the same posters know it is mostly true.
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In theory instead of spheres of influence I think the old Eastern bloc countries would be better off as neutral zone classified do neither Russia nor NATO have any influence over either, they can't be a part of NATO nor the Russian Alliance. Both essentially agree to keep out, those countries may band together to form their own joint defence force or may call on either NATO or Russia if one of them were to invade. In addition Russia would have to agree not to conduct Invasion scale of exercises near their border, NATO too obviously as well.
I also think that the former Eastern Bloc countries would be better off in their own East European Union rather than the EU. They basically have a different culture to west European countries and trying to get them to fit into that straight jacket isn't good for them or the EU. I think a lot of this goes back to wrong choices made in the nineties at the end of the cold war/break up of the USSR. One of those was Ukraine giving up all of its nuclear missiles, to my mind they should have kept about a hundred of those missiles of the 5000 or so. In that way they wouldn't be were they are now but still have something of a reasonable size to deter any aggression.
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In theory instead of spheres of influence I think the old Eastern bloc countries would be better off as neutral zone classified do neither Russia nor NATO have any influence over either, they can't be a part of NATO nor the Russian Alliance. Both essentially agree to keep out, those countries may band together to form their own joint defence force or may call on either NATO or Russia if one of them were to invade. In addition Russia would have to agree not to conduct Invasion scale of exercises near their border, NATO too obviously as well.
And who would decide what these sovereign states should do or not do? Russia and the US? Funny thoughts Trench but a bucket full of nothing.
I also think that the former Eastern Bloc countries would be better off in their own East European Union rather than the EU. They basically have a different culture to west European countries and trying to get them to fit into that straight jacket isn't good for them or the EU.
Total BS. EU is as diverse as it gets with 24 or so official languages just to mention one point. It is an economic and political union with political, legal and trade frameworks, not a cultural one.
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5 years ago this site would have had another riot when I made similiar statements. Nowadays many of the same posters know it is mostly true.
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True. 5 years ago, you were part of the silly ‘resistance’ on this board who subscribed, advance and spread *misinformation / disinformation* aka fake news, skimmed from mainstream media like CNN, MSNBC trying so hard to subvert the 2016 election result. Posted many of those fake news as support of their ‘proof’.
Yeah, I remember. All your posts, and others, are still here.
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True. 5 years ago, you were part of the silly ‘resistance’ on this board who subscribed, advance and spread *misinformation / disinformation* aka fake news, skimmed from mainstream media like CNN, MSNBC trying so hard to subvert the 2016 election result. Posted many of those fake news as support of their ‘proof’.
Yeah, I remember. All your posts, and others, are still here.
I don't think so. I don't think I disputed Donald Trump won the election in 2016. I recall thinking he DID win the election. I do remain suspicious of what his surrogates did behind the scenes although he did win the election, by any means necessary....which is typical for US elections.
I was referring to comments made regarding what the US was doing globally, mostly in the Obama years so it would have been 2014-2016 era.
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Did it explode on them afterwords? The panicked scream indicates danger.
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Looks scary, but actually more dangerous walking across a crosswalk. Such can and does happen with any weapons system. There are multiple safety systems to prevent detonation.
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Yeah, I remember. All your posts, and others, are still here.
Maybe show instead of tell.
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Looks scary, but actually more dangerous walking across a crosswalk. Such can and does happen with any weapons system. There are multiple safety systems to prevent detonation.
Yeah, either way.....I think I'd crap my pants if that 'dud' dropped 3 feet from me
Maybe show instead of tell.
I'm curious what he can come with it, using words of mine, in context. Probably a mostly false statement he made. That said, I'm sure I posted some articles regarding trump and how his surrogates were accused of courting Russia. I still believe that is probably true, yet the election happened because Trump had a lot of support from key states (At the time), in the US. Four years later, he lost some of that support, and awakened others to vote, and Biden is at the helm now.
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Maybe show instead of tell.
Cute.
I'm curious what he can come with it, using words of mine, in context. Probably a mostly false statement he made. That said, I'm sure I posted some articles regarding trump and how his surrogates were accused of courting Russia. I still believe that is probably true, yet the election happened because Trump had a lot of support from key states (At the time), in the US. Four years later, he lost some of that support, and awakened others to vote, and Biden is at the helm now.
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It’s been said, answers are closer than they appear. One just needs to be a bit more focus.
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And who would decide what these sovereign states should do or not do? Russia and the US? Funny thoughts Trench but a bucket full of nothing.
Total BS. EU is as diverse as it gets with 24 or so official languages just to mention one point. It is an economic and political union with political, legal and trade frameworks, not a cultural one.
Most (but not all) of the Eastern Bloc countries are Slavic and most have had the Soviet culture become a part of their culture, Patriarchy, Stoic, working people, hardness, and the men prone to alcoholism.
Their ways and outlook are pretty similar. The EU is a west European contrived concept full of west European values. It was formed as the EC/EEC during Soviet times and even when it became the EU after the fall of the Soviet Union the Eastern Bloc countries didn't join until way later in the 21st century.
"It is an economic and political union with political, legal and trade frameworks, not a cultural one."
That is what a lot of countries don't like or didn't/don't want, first the UK now Poland, Hungary and Romania don't want. The EU are ignoring culture band trying to weld everyone into the same boring non-culture of their bureaucratic requirements. People didn't really want a union in many parts of Europe they just wanted an association. By spreading itself over many different cultures the EU has caused itself problems with being an effective organisation for its member states. The EU actually worked way better when it was just western Europe, it was small enough to take its member considerations into account, it may not have been perfect but it worked more effectively for its members. The EU expanding to the Eastern Bloc is really where it couldn't focus on being effective for its members and turned into a bloated power hungary with little interest in what its members wanted.
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Stop with the inaccurate stereotypes, Trench.
Slavic culture is not monolithic.
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It’s been said, answers are closer than they appear. One just needs to be a bit more focus.
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Stop with the inaccurate stereotypes, Trench.
Slavic culture is not monolithic.
I know they're not all the same or necessarily that similar but even a related connection coupled with the Soviet times, working class culture it will give some similarities in my view.
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Well, your view would be wrong.
You picked up the term "working class" from my posts, and you misunderstand it.
Poland, for example, was very different, culturally, from Russia. So was East Germany.
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Well, your view would be wrong.
You picked up the term "working class" from my posts, and you misunderstand it.
Poland, for example, was very different, culturally, from Russia. So was East Germany.
Originally yes but didn't the Russians eliminate the Polish Army Officer corps during Soviet times. That and WWII and likely the usual Soviet system placed on them would make their outlook somewhat similar moreso than western Europe I would have thought. Add in the usual Soviet concrete block Architecture, etc and it's all shapes them I believe.
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Nope. Poland was not like the USSR. Ever.
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Kind of thinking we might have put off the Russians on this whole invasion thing. I think the combination of the anti tank, etc gear and the large numbers of civilians wiling to take up arms may have swung it. End of the day if Russia trues to obliterate cities in Ukraine with its missiles it will destroy the population and the housing. Russia doesn't really have a growing population so it doesn't help it much to inherit a wasteland if blown apart cities and industry and few people to be there.
Even if Russia were to pick through it piece by piece it would likely be a problem.
Looks like Putin is moving more towards what minor agreements may be made with the west as a face saving way out in my opinion. Still no certainties I guess, just a case of seeing what comes it seems.
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With the latest US attempt to further provoked war in Ukraine, it incoherently moved 3,000 troops to Romania yesterday. Why is this incessant need to place Ukraine in an unenviable predicament to be at the center of this mindless confrontation.
Sen. Josh Hawley this week asked this very obvious obsession. He proclaimed that if war can be avoided by agreeing to abide by Russia's request that Ukraine cannot be made a member of NATO, a sentiment broadly shared by many western European alliance, why is it so hard for us (the US) to see this through? Ukraine can still be whatever it wished to be without having to be a NATO member. Especially considering it will be front and center of a devastating war as a consequence.
The US instigated a 2014 coup to open this avenue. It resulted in an ugly civil war. Ukrainians dearly suffered for it. Now that you have pretty much the same DC players at the helm, we are taking the next step we sprung in 2014. This is simply madness.
Yesterday, when asked about Josh Hawley's statement, Jen Psaki's response at the press briefing was to accuse Hawley as parroting Russian propaganda. Had the US really changed its ideal this dramatically? Have we really sunk this low?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiy9KOR4PfY[/c]
WTF?
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Why should Russia get to decide if Ukraine, an independent sovereign nation, can, or cannot join NATO? Had Putin not sent troops to the Georgian border in 2008, and invaded Crimea in 2014, there likely would be calls to disband NATO.
There was no "coup" against Yanukovych. He abused his position, and people demonstrated. Had he not fired on crowds, he likely would have been able to end his term in office.
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Why should Russia get to decide if Ukraine, an independent sovereign nation, can, or cannot join NATO? Had Putin not sent troops to the Georgian border in 2008, and invaded Crimea in 2014, there likely would be calls to disband NATO.
Ukraine can be what it wants, on its own. They, alone, should go right into the heart of Russian front today. Why has it not done so? Do you know? You seem to speak for all Ukrainians. You should be out there along with them charging the Russia frontlines, not in the cold comfort of Canada thousands of miles from the hot zone.
I don't see Georgia 'suffering' today by not becoming a NATO member, do you?
There was no "coup" against Yanukovych. He abused his position, and people demonstrated. Had he not fired on crowds, he likely would have been able to end his term in office.
Your opinion. Based on all the unfolding events, then and now, reality dictates otherwise.
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I'm not speaking for anyone. But I am telling you what Ukrainian polls say. There was no desire by Ukrainians to join NATO in 2014. Until Russia invaded Crimea. There would be no need for NATO if Russia was not a bellicose expansionist regime.
Georgia has a "frozen conflict" on its border to today, thanks to Russia.
No, it's not my opinion. The demonstrations against Yanukovych initially were funded by Tymoshenko and were insincere. But, they grew because he became too arrogant, which is something, given it's Ukraine. It wasn't instigatged by the US, although the US certainly swooped in for their own interests.
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I'm not speaking for anyone. But I am telling you what Ukrainian polls say. There was no desire by Ukrainians to join NATO in 2014. Until Russia invaded Crimea. There would be no need for NATO if Russia was not a bellicose expansionist regime.
Wrong. If Google can't help you with this, research 2008 Bucharest NATO conference. I'll make it easier for you: http://www.jstor.org/stable/48505017 (http://www.jstor.org/stable/48505017)
For the first time since NATO’s creation, the USA was defeated at an alliance summit with regard to a priority goal it had set—the inclusion of Ukraine and Georgia in NATO. That is the most notable fact about the Bucharest Summit that history will record. Yet most Western media reports surprisingly omitted this momentous failure. The summit also revealed increased tensions between the US and Russia accompanied by new intra-European divisions, which narrowed the EU’s scope for action. The EU is indeed paralysed by a new East–West crisis whose most visible manifestation was Moscow’s recognition of the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
In conference with Georgia and Ukraine prior to the summit, Bush moved to further the aliiance by offering MAP (membership action plan) for the inclusion of Georgia and Ukraine. It was broadly rejected by notable NATO members then, as they do today. Notably Germany. A British diplomat attending the summit said: There's little appetite amongst member to inherent a east/west conflict if Ukraine became a member of NATO.
Georgia has a "frozen conflict" on its border to today, thanks to Russia.
Its borders doesn't keep Georgia from being, and doing, what it wants. Same goes for Austria, Sweden Finland, Ireland, etc...Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania have, for all intents and purposes, a 'frozen conflict' as well, whatever that means
No, it's not my opinion. The demonstrations against Yanukovych initially were funded by Tymoshenko and were insincere. But, they grew because he became too arrogant, which is something, given it's Ukraine. It wasn't instigatged by the US, although the US certainly swooped in for their own interests.
It is simply that, an opinion. You can add in whatever anecdotes you want to further bungle that up, like I said, simply watching unfolding events then and now - reality dictates otherwise.[/quote]
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Ukraine can be what it wants, on its own. They, alone, should go right into the heart of Russian front today. Why has it not done so? Do you know? You seem to speak for all Ukrainians. You should be out there along with them charging the Russia frontlines, not in the cold comfort of Canada thousands of miles from the hot zone.
I don't see Georgia 'suffering' today by not becoming a NATO member, do you?
Your opinion. Based on all the unfolding events, then and now, reality dictates otherwise.
Yes, Ukraine should be what it wants, on its own. I agree 100%.
It would be nice if a neighboring country didn't amass troops on it's border and make demands of it, tell it what it should do or be invaded.
T was in Donesk in 2014, demonstrating in the streets until Yanukovych forces initiated a crackdown. She fled from her home to Mariupol and was there when the conflict broke out. She is against violence but she did what she could - donate supplies, help with logistics, whatever. And she will return to volunteer again if Russia invades, though Mariupol basically doesn't have much of a chance. She'll travel to where she can and do what she can.
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http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22223.msg561882#msg561882
Just because you use google, don't assume everyone else does. My information comes from reading Ukrainian newspapers, and Ukrainian polls. Not google.
Your American centric perspective is demonstrated yet again. Whether Bush, or anyone else wanted Ukraine to join NATO is irrelevant. Ukrainians never wanted to join NATO. Even today, with a threat of invasion, only 54% of Ukrainians would be willing to join NATO. There are over 4 million Ukrainians living in Russia. Most Ukrainians use Russian as their primary language. Most read Russian papers. Russia remains Ukraine's largest trading partner. While Ukrainians want stronger ties to the EU, perceiving them as less authoritarian than Russia, Russia will always remain important to Ukraine. That's a geographical and hence, political and economic reality. Were there no threat of Russian invasion, I can guarantee the desire to join NATO would move back to the less than 20% territory it was at before 2014.
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http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22223.msg561882#msg561882 (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22223.msg561882#msg561882)
Just because you use google, don't assume everyone else does. My information comes from reading Ukrainian newspapers, and Ukrainian polls. Not google.
LMAO! I'm not stupid enough to use Google. Hence I never bought into the Steele Dossier et al. I know many here did.
Your American centric perspective is demonstrated yet again. Whether Bush, or anyone else wanted Ukraine to join NATO is irrelevant.
It's only irrelevant because you were ignorant of the 2008 Bucharest Summit. But nice attempt to deflect. Feel free to rewrite history that Bush (the US) singlehandedly, unbeknownst to both Ukraine and Georgia, that there were inscribed to be NATO members because the US said so, LMAO. Funny at how hard you try.
Ukrainians never wanted to join NATO. Even today, with a threat of invasion, only 54% of Ukrainians would be willing to join NATO.
Considering it was Zelensky who lit this current fire with Russia by re-advancing Ukraine's aspiration for a NATO membership last June, despite that message (Zelensky's) was met with ambivalence by NATO's leadership, even by Blinken. Yet, here is where Ukraine is today.
Like I said, Ukraine can be what it wants to be - freely. Hell, little Georgia did what it aspired in 2008, and Georgia was in a far more disadvantage position in all angles than Ukraine is today - alone. They should tell the US/Brits et al to back off, and that they'll confront the evil empire themselves and earn their own way to a 24 hour fitness club membership, or any club membership they sought.
There are over 4 million Ukrainians living in Russia. Most Ukrainians use Russian as their primary language. Most read Russian papers. Russia remains Ukraine's largest trading partner. While Ukrainians want stronger ties to the EU, perceiving them as less authoritarian than Russia, Russia will always remain important to Ukraine. That's a geographical and hence, political and economic reality. Were there no threat of Russian invasion, I can guarantee the desire to join NATO would move back to the less than 20% territory it was at before 2014.
Which was my very point when I initially said the US's stupid posturing today is only inciting deeper level of confrontation. Ukraine will pay dearly in this stupidity IF it doesn't declare removing itself from any aspiration of a NATO membership themselves. The best that can happen to Ukraine, forget Russia and the US, is to listen to what many of the NATO alliance believe - find a way to remove any talk of MAP while saving face, and not make NATO look weak at the same time in today's geopolitical condition.
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Well we've done it again! Called out another planned false flag operation by Pootin:
http://news.sky.com/story/amp/ukraine-russia-tensions-moscows-plans-ruined-after-us-and-britain-call-out-possible-invasion-12532256
Maybe time for yours truly to go on holiday to Ukraine, I'll get to see lots of people running around in fatigues, will make for interesting sight seeing :D
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Maybe NATO needs to start amassing hundreds of thousands of troops in Estonia and Latvia on the border with Russia..along with Tanks and missile systems and backed by squadrons of Bombers and Fighter aircraft...enough to flatten St Petersburg..just for months of exercises of course.
Make sure the build-up is all filmed ....and then keep repeating we have no intention of invading Russia.
See how Putin likes it being done on his doorstep...the very thing he fears.
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When the US senate agrees on something you can be sure it is something stupid.
Senators close in on 'mother of all sanctions' bill against Russia
A bipartisan group of senators is within striking distance of a deal on a bill that would impose crippling sanctions on Russia for its hostilities against Ukraine.
"We are finding the path forward very clearly," said Sen. Jim Risch, top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, indicating that the White House and other key agencies were involved in the negotiations to agree on a deal ahead of any potential invasion by Russia, which has amassed more than 100,000 troops on Ukraine's border....
http://www.yahoo.com/gma/senators-close-mother-sanctions-bill-224201318.html (http://www.yahoo.com/gma/senators-close-mother-sanctions-bill-224201318.html)
Fathertime!
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Well we've done it again! Called out another planned false flag operation by Pootin:
http://news.sky.com/story/amp/ukraine-russia-tensions-moscows-plans-ruined-after-us-and-britain-call-out-possible-invasion-12532256
Maybe time for yours truly to go on holiday to Ukraine, I'll get to see lots of people running around in fatigues, will make for interesting sight seeing :D
My own belief is that this is US false flag, calling out a made-up Russian 'false flag'. If Russia wanted to create a false flag it would have happened quickly.
I think you should go to Ukraine now; most people are concerned about what might happen, but not you. Babes falling at your feet, you will capture the cream of the crop, especially if you tote along the stockpile of toilet paper from the pandemic.
Fathertime!
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My own belief is that this is US false flag, calling out a made-up Russian 'false flag'. If Russia wanted to create a false flag it would have happened quickly.
Gee, of course it is. Tonkin Gulf - the Sequel. Expect anything different?
Just last weekend, Ukraine-based reporters had told of a major and angry Kyiv pushback against Biden for repeatedly firing warmongering rhetoric, and publishing heinously wrong assessments regarding current Kremlin plans and intent. Even the public announcement of deploying 2,000 soldiers to 'eastern Europe' in preparation for 'imminent Russian invasion' was admonished. Kyiv claimed their intelligence is polar opposite to the US's intelligence reports. This event was *almost* taken off US-based media reporting.
Instead, you now you have this story about US intelligence's 'Russian false flag' fable.
Our current US administration is ferrying the unsuccessful attempt by the same party (previous) administration's mission.
The US's military complex is in desperate need of this potentially massive profit infusion (http://inthesetimes.com/article/ukraine-russia-raytheon-lockheed-martin-general-dynamics-weapons-industry). We have a HUGE need to get these war machine wheels in motion. The sooner, the better. 2014 delay was simply troublesome.
Here's a pretty darn good example of the way the *US media/military complex/DC* conduct these things:
Look at this Politico Newsflash (http://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2022/01/18/psaki-russia-could-at-any-point-launch-an-attack-in-ukraine-495761). Then look at the picture I uploaded below. The current news link was immediately edited and 'removed' the notation " Presented by Lockheed", soon after initial release. But they weren't fast enough. It was caught on video as the picture below displays.
If there's any doubt, scroll way down the article and you'll see this little tidbit:
"Lockheed Martin's LMXT is built...."
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This report seems to suggest that Russia might have be bearing the completIon of its invasion plans:
http://news.sky.com/story/the-final-pieces-three-new-signs-of-russian-invasion-plans-for-ukraine-12533199
An interesting report and it looks from the surveillance pics included that it definitely looks like an invasion scale of set up. My guess is that Russia is only interested in utilizing a certain number of troops as it takes more effort to move more troops into position and they need the rest to guard the other borders particularly to guard against NATO troops on its border.
There are certainly signs they might be an invasion whether Russia has a strategy to take Ukraine without blowing it to bits I don't know, whether they care who knows. If they are intent on obliterating cities with their hyper thermal missiles then it would be a horrendous act of genocide which I don't think will be forgotten.
I know before I thought early Feb around the 4th-8th or so could be a possible invasion date. It's around that now, possibly just a case of the fleet assembling in the Black Sea and a few other final preparations then maybe?
Possibly Russia has been encouraged with how they seemed to do quite well in Syria and think it will be a quick easy fight possibly with the Ukrainian army losing heart once it's smashed along with civilians and them throwing bin the towel thereby avoiding use of its hyper thermal missiles. Looks like we might find out soon either an invasion or sone sort of small diplomatic get out for Russia to climb down without losing face I reckon.
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I know before I thought early Feb around the 4th-8th or so could be a possible invasion date. It's around that now, possibly just a case of the fleet assembling in the Black Sea and a few other final preparations then maybe?
Invasion isn't on the table...never really has been. No surprise element takes war of this kind off the table in my opinion. There would be no months long obvious build up.
Fathertime!
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Invasion isn't on the table...never really has been. No surprise element takes war of this kind off the table in my opinion. There would be no months long obvious build up.
Fathertime!
You could be right though possibly they don't need surprise. With their superiority with missiles that is probably all they need. The tanks and ground troops just left to go in to mop up and most of all be stationed on the conquered territory.
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Story focused on Kharkiv, Ukraine
http://tinyurl.com/2p97bn36
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There’s something oddly familiar about the Ukraine situation, perhaps because it’s part of an ongoing story involving Eastern Europe and the West. During and after the Second World War, the Soviet ruler Joseph Stalin regarded the boundaries and governance of Poland as a matter of great importance. Stalin regarded Poland’s geography as inseparable from Russian security—much as Vladimir Putin, the current Russian leader, regards Ukraine, which shares a twelve-hundred-mile border with Russia. Stalin reminded Roosevelt that, “the Soviet Union is entitled to seek in Poland a Government that would be friendly to it.”
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There’s something oddly familiar about the Ukraine situation, perhaps because it’s part of an ongoing story involving Eastern Europe and the West. During and after the Second World War, the Soviet ruler Joseph Stalin regarded the boundaries and governance of Poland as a matter of great importance. Stalin regarded Poland’s geography as inseparable from Russian security—much as Vladimir Putin, the current Russian leader, regards Ukraine, which shares a twelve-hundred-mile border with Russia. Stalin reminded Roosevelt that, “the Soviet Union is entitled to seek in Poland a Government that would be friendly to it.”
Soviet Troops had of course occupied Poland as the Nazis were defeated so I'm guessing it stands as common sense that he would install a friendly government. For Russia Ukraine gives it a long border to defend but for Ukraine also. In addition it's right in the way of an easy route south to the Black Sea. I think overall Putin regards certain areas as Russian, namely Belarus and Ukraine. Both regions were Russian under Catherine the Great but prior had other rulers. Both countries contain Russian speakers, likely Russian descendants and Cities have to a large extent been seen as historically Russian, Minsk, Kiev, Odessa, etc. Not do much Lviv which though had been Lvov under Russia was also known as Lemburg under Austria-Hungary.
End of the day I'm not stating these areas should be under control of Russia, there is plenty of argument either way. Plenty of times the area of Ukraine has been independent and other areas part of Poland, etc. I think Ukraine in the west has a distinct part of it that isn't really Russian. While I enjoyed Lviv a lot of it and it's people came across as fairly westernised to me.
Anyhow latest is that reports from the US seemingly think that Russia is 70 percent ready to invade:
BBC News - Ukraine tensions: US sources say Russia 70% ready to invade
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60276342
Fathertime thinks they would do a surprise attack if they were going to invade. I'm not so sure as this report points out they need certain conditions to get their heavy weapons in plus of course you can only get so much along a road or railroad at a time. It can't all just magically appear at once or drip flow to the border and attack a piece at a time, that tends not to be a great setup for success.
Still a wait and see situation. This time feels a lot more real than last Spring when the Russians were at their 'training'. A lot more war games, in preparation perhaps, and more intensity to the build up I think. Could well be as one Ukrainian General predicted mid to late February around the end of the Olympics perhaps. Guess will have to see, could come any moment for all we know.
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It's only irrelevant because you were ignorant of the 2008 Bucharest Summit. But nice attempt to deflect. Feel free to rewrite history that Bush (the US) singlehandedly, unbeknownst to both Ukraine and Georgia, that there were inscribed to be NATO members because the US said so, LMAO. Funny at how hard you try.
No trying on my part. You have a poor understanding of what occurred.
Yushchenko was president of Ukraine during the Bucharest Summit. He wanted Ukraine to be considered for NATO membership in the future. Ukrainians have never supported joining NATO. Never, until 2014. That's a fact.
G.W. Bush did state that NATO membership would be in the cards in the future. Bush and Obama have both held this out for Ukraine. Only Trump said it will never happen.
Ukrainians have never been big on NATO membership. Their presidents, adhering to kozachestvo (read about it - very important in Ukrainian history, and explains the mentality of Ukrainian politicians) did. But it would never have occurred, as constitutionally, it has to be approved by Ukrainian voters.
Considering it was Zelensky who lit this current fire with Russia by re-advancing Ukraine's aspiration for a NATO membership last June, despite that message (Zelensky's) was met with ambivalence by NATO's leadership, even by Blinken. Yet, here is where Ukraine is today.
See above.
Like I said, Ukraine can be what it wants to be - freely. Hell, little Georgia did what it aspired in 2008, and Georgia was in a far more disadvantage position in all angles than Ukraine is today - alone. They should tell the US/Brits et al to back off, and that they'll confront the evil empire themselves and earn their own way to a 24 hour fitness club membership, or any club membership they sought.
LOL. Well, your understanding is very flawed. See above.
Which was my very point when I initially said the US's stupid posturing today is only inciting deeper level of confrontation. Ukraine will pay dearly in this stupidity IF it doesn't declare removing itself from any aspiration of a NATO membership themselves. The best that can happen to Ukraine, forget Russia and the US, is to listen to what many of the NATO alliance believe - find a way to remove any talk of MAP while saving face, and not make NATO look weak at the same time in today's geopolitical condition.
Ukrainians have no aspirations for NATO membership. When all you can muster, even after an invasion, is 54% support, it's just not going to happen.
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French President on his way to Moscow to try his hand at diplomatic resolution. Macron comes across as kind of arrogant so unless arrogance is what is needed then I don't hold out much hope.
Yesterday news of British SAS arriving in Ukraine to help train Ukraine forces in counter espionage/insurgency, etc. About a hundred in all, my guess would be that British troops training Ukrainians in anti-tank stuff are still out there. Danger being of course that Russia launches an attack while our forces are out there and kills some of them. That could then lead to a declaration of war potentially by the UK/NATO.
Russia certainly looks like it's readying itself for an invasion. These are apparently the crucial weeks that will see if it occurs or not. The ground starts to harden with frost making it a lot easier for heavy vehicles to move without churning up the ground and getting stuck. Russian ships in Syrian port at the moment to refuel & restock from their long journey around from the Baltic. Most likely next move will be to the Black Sea in the next few days. My guess is that it's all going to co-inside and cone together at once then just a case of whether or when they go ahead. Odds are they won't wait too long for the ground to thaw and will go off almost straight away.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/over-100-british-elite-troops-26150282.amp
They kind of look a bit Star Wars like in the pic lol :D
This report states that Russia will be ready to attack by 15th February so quite possible I guess. They reckon an attack could take place within the next ten days:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17562199/sas-commandos-ukraine-russia-invasion/
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So British elite battle-hardened troops,the best of the best, are now being sent to Ukraine....could be the thin end of the wedge,as they're the ones who set-up ground bases in conflict zones for everyone else.
"Over a hundred " could mean anything...enough to let the Russians know that they're there ,but keeping them guessing exactly how many have been sent in...it's the SAS/SBS way of doing things.
Boris Johnson did warn at his press conference whilst in Kiev that this potential conflict would be a military disaster for Russia and the World.
Seems that lines are starting to be drawn now.
The balls now in mad Vlad's court.
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So British elite battle-hardened troops,the best of the best, are now being sent to Ukraine....could be the thin end of the wedge,as they're the ones who set-up ground bases in conflict zones for everyone else.
"Over a hundred " could mean anything...enough to let the Russians know that they're there ,but keeping them guessing exactly how many have been sent in...it's the SAS/SBS way of doing things.
Boris Johnson did warn at his press conference whilst in Kiev that this potential conflict would be a military disaster for Russia and the World.
Seems that lines are starting to be drawn now.
The balls now in mad Vlad's court.
Indeed CB, a retired Russian General has come out against Putin warning him not to invade:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10484417/Top-hardline-Russian-general-warns-Putin-NOT-invade-Ukraine-accuses-criminal-policy.html
He was fired by Putin back in 2001 so could be sour grapes. Still if he thinks Putin is set to mount an invasion then he will likely have a fair idea of what indicates an invasion.
My thoughts are perhaps the SAS have been sent in on a humanitarian mission to rescue as many hotties as possible if Russia invades ;D
I see the travel advice from our foreign office has finally changed to a don't travel unless essential line. So indicating the strong possibility of a Russian Invasion it seems.
http://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ukraine
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No trying on my part. You have a poor understanding of what occurred.
Yushchenko was president of Ukraine during the Bucharest Summit. He wanted Ukraine to be considered for NATO membership in the future. Ukrainians have never supported joining NATO. Never, until 2014. That's a fact.
G.W. Bush did state that NATO membership would be in the cards in the future. Bush and Obama have both held this out for Ukraine. Only Trump said it will never happen.
I’m glad To see I was able to educate you again. LMAO.
Ukrainians have never been big on NATO membership. Their presidents, adhering to kozachestvo (read about it - very important in Ukrainian history, and explains the mentality of Ukrainian politicians) did. But it would never have occurred, as constitutionally, it has to be approved by Ukrainian voters.
See above.
LOL. Well, your understanding is very flawed. See above.
Ukrainians have no aspirations for NATO membership. When all you can muster, even after an invasion, is 54% support, it's just not going to happen.
LMAO.
http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3241106-zelensky-expects-discussion-of-ukraines-map-prospects-to-begin-at-nato-summit-in-june.html
See above.
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:exploding:
Matt Lee is a reporter from Associated Press. He is the perfect example of what real journalism in the US used to be like. Matt Lee was also the same reporter that was highly critical and deeply suspicious about the US's deep involvement in Ukraine's 2014 coup and ensuing civil war.
Here is Matt Lee exposing further US's BS, and its effort to lit the fire of war and military engagement in the current volatile situation along Ukraine's borders.
http://tinyurl.com/y23bpr3k
He asked the State Department to provide actual proof of the US's allegations about Russia's 'false flag' plan, which the US claimed to be a declassified intelligence, Ned Price not only cannot do so, but got very defensive and literally just told Matt Lee to simply 'take his word' for it.
We're suppose to just believe all the crap coming out of this white house? WTF?!? Here's a perfectly good example of the trash coming out of this current administration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AvpQT_4zpI
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We (The US) were already trying everything we could to prevent the Nord Stream 2 from being completed...and everybody important knows it.
I suspect that the US has done something not publicized much in the US to give Russia enough heartburn to amass troops near Ukraine. So far none of our tricks have stopped the pipeline, and I suspect this one will either.
Biden insists Nord Stream 2 will be halted if Russia invades Ukraine
President Biden insisted Monday that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline from Russia to Germany would be brought to an end if the Kremlin chose to launch a renewed military invasion of Ukraine.
"If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it," Biden said at a joint press conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. "I promise you we will be able
to do that."....
http://tinyurl.com/3evvv9x5
Fathertime!
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They (US administration) are as full of phsyt then as they are full of phsyt now. Jen Psaki when reporters drilled her, including Matt Lee, about US interference in Ukraine in the aftermath of the coup...they won't give a phsyt how many Ukrainians die for their greed now, as they didn't before...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW1WDbDX7wE&t=192s
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Sounds like a nice way to live.
Thanks to the Russian supporters who are enjoying inflicting this pain.
http://tinyurl.com/58e6rxzu
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What about the Biden family's financial involvement in Ukraine that is constantly swept under the rug every time it crawls out?
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What about the Biden family's financial involvement in Ukraine that is constantly swept under the rug every time it crawls out?
No doubt a lot of vested interests from Biden & others in the US, the UK also I wouldn't mind betting. The UK seems particularly interested in this fight and I doubt it's because of the number of guys marrying Ukrainian women or for the benefit of UK sex tourists. My guess is that there is good money to be made out there. If the US/UK can get control of Ukraine and pull the strings from behind the scenes then they can get in a lot of US/UK companies, investment, etc and get lucrative deals. They will of course get their way in pretty much all that happens in Ukraine. On the plus side it may finally get rid of corruption if Ukraine is being controlled by the US/UK. On the other that may make it a lot more like western nations which is probably not good for us western guys going over there for girls, who knows.
Ukraine may have oil & gas it is thought, apparently exploration is needed and then extraction. It has been offering out contracts to tender for this mainly taken up by small companies but progress appears slow. So it may be one area the US/UK hope to get into.
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Recent reports are that Russia & Belarus are conducting training for 10 days together. Putin's yacht has sailed for Kaliningrad from Germany to avoid being impounded by sanctions if Russia invades Ukraine. So both could be quite telling, that Russia intends to invade Ukraine but that it probably won't happen until at least 10 days time. So after the end of the Olympics on the 20th Feb could be about the time they may invade. That ties up with the time that Ukrainian General thought they might invade. Having messaged women out in Ukraine recently apparently it's getting quite stressful for them out there at the moment which is understandable really I guess.
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DOD rejected the recent letter request by Military Reporters & Editors Association sent of February 5, 2022 (http://militaryreporters.org/2022/02/military-reporters-editors-association-calls-for-the-resumption-of-embeds/); to embed journalist with US troops in the eastern flank/deployment.
Just like they rejected Libya bombing embedment.
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Looks like the writing is on the wall now, Bisen is now telling Americans to get the hell out of Ukraine:
http://news.sky.com/story/us-president-joe-biden-says-american-citizens-should-leave-ukraine-now-12538715
I was astonished to hear how many Americans there are in Ukraine, many, many sex tourists with the same idea as me of living there no doubt, their lives potentially being turned upside down.
My guess this new announcement wouldn't have come without the US having some big tell tell warning signs coming in. Ukraine likely to lose out on a lot of revenue from the his action but then again if it all becomes Russian territory then that won't really matter I guess.
More bad news for Ukraine here:
BBC News - Ukraine tensions: Russia accused of sea blockade
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60340232
Looks like Russia's fleet has arrived in the Black Sea now which was their supposed destination sailing around Europe from the North Sea.
http://news.usni.org/2022/02/08/six-ship-russian-navy-amphibious-group-attack-sub-approach-black-sea-as-warships-mass-in-the-mediterranean
Looks like all their forces are now converging in place, a few exercises then quite likely the invasion it's looking. Russia blockading Ukraine's sea ports will harm their economy for as long as it lasts of course. I kind of called it a few weeks ago that Russia's fleet arriving in the Black Sea would likely be the last piece falling into place before an attack. Looks like their present war games will co-inside with those in Belarus, so a few days then it all begins.
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Ben Wallace ..UK Secretary of State for Defence speaking at a press conference in the British Embassy in Moscow has just said he doesn't think British people need to leave Ukraine.
He also said there are no plans to send Special Forces Troops to Ukraine..and not to believe everything you read in the media.
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No doubt a lot of vested interests from Biden & others in the US, the UK also I wouldn't mind betting. The UK seems particularly interested in this fight and I doubt it's because of the number of guys marrying Ukrainian women or for the benefit of UK sex tourists. My guess is that there is good money to be made out there. If the US/UK can get control of Ukraine and pull the strings from behind the scenes then they can get in a lot of US/UK companies, investment, etc and get lucrative deals. They will of course get their way in pretty much all that happens in Ukraine. On the plus side it may finally get rid of corruption if Ukraine is being controlled by the US/UK. On the other that may make it a lot more like western nations which is probably not good for us western guys going over there for girls, who knows.
Ukraine may have oil & gas it is thought, apparently exploration is needed and then extraction. It has been offering out contracts to tender for this mainly taken up by small companies but progress appears slow. So it may be one area the US/UK hope to get into.
The money to be made out there is it's completely corrupt.
Government officials need ways to launder the money they *cough steal.
Ukraine's a perfect place for that, and well versed in it.
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Ben Wallace ..UK Secretary of State for Defence speaking at a press conference in the British Embassy in Moscow has just said he doesn't think British people need to leave Ukraine.
He also said there are no plans to send Special Forces Troops to Ukraine..and not to believe everything you read in the media.
Looks like the Foreign Office has now since decided otherwise:
BBC News - Russia-Ukraine crisis: UK nationals told to leave Ukraine
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60355311
http://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ukraine
Bisen gives US citizens 48 hours to leave as the US military won't be allowed to intervene to evacuate it's citizens after that and commercial flights may no longer be available:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10503325/amp/Americans-48-hours-leave-Ukraine-military-WONT-rescue-Steps-warnings.html
What all those agency girls who are reliant on western guys money are going to do who knows 🤷
Starting to look pretty telling from all of this I'm thinking.
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British officials estimate that a further 14 Russian Battalions headed to the Ukraine border today..each Battalion containing about 800 troops.
This would take the number of Russian forces on the Ukraine border to over 150,000.
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British officials estimate that a further 14 Russian Battalions headed to the Ukraine border today..each Battalion containing about 800 troops.
This would take the number of Russian forces on the Ukraine border to over 150,000.
Yeah to my mind it's definitely an invasion that is intended. The rest of the Russian army no doubt held back to defend Russia's extensive borders, especially to safeguard against any thought NATO might have if counterattacking.
As said in another post I think Russia's objective is to smash Ukraine's army with shelling and small missiles, move up to the key Ukrainian cities then bring about a negotiation with those willing to be a part of a new Pro-Russian Ukrainian government. They'll negotiate peace with Russia in its terms and the Russian army will withdraw. Likely Donbass & Lugansk will join the Russian Federation, Ukraine will agree that Crimea is Russian and Ukraine will not join NATO or the EU. Ukraine will likely grant access to Russia's Navy to use its port facilities in Odesa, Nikolaev, Kherson & Mariupol and other trade and political dealings. I think odds are Ukraine will change its city's names back to Russian version and probably the Orthodox church will rejoin Russia. So much as before 2014 just Ukraine more under the thumb of Russia.
I think Russia wants a conclusion to the separatist war in Eastern Ukraine, it us fed up of being in a stalemate with Russian soldiers listing their lives. Do yes I think Russia will invade Ukraine to deal with that along with other issues that it can see as bit being resolved any other way.
Precisely when Russia will attack, well it could be any time in the next few days. I'm not so sure of Wednesday but I think they are readying with finally movements before an attack now, around the end of the Olympics quite possibly. I'm guessing it's only days away now.
For us I largely go along with the line that it's not our fight, I have no connection out in Ukraine at present. I still wish to go to Ukraine in future though. Having thought this through it may not end up as bad for us as I thought. That of course doesn't feel great to say as Ukrainians could lose their lives but none of that is my wish or doing. I think there is a good possibility that a Pro-Russian Ukrainian government will keep the visa-free regime. I don't think that will bother Russia, it won't want Ukraine as an economic wasteland and I don't think it wants it as it's territory per se. Also Ukraine won't no longer be wanting to join the EU under a Pro-Russian Ukrainian government, hooray!!! They could quite likely Dutch the present tourist visa agreement they have for it's citizens with the EU, or the EU might because of the installation of a Pro-Russian government. So there may be possible up sides we haven't thought off. All a bit difficult to tell until it goes down but all may not be lost it us, my Odesa Dreams may still be on the table :)
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Yeah, this article about says it all, probably the one you saw CB:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10512661/amp/The-race-Kiev-Russian-forces-bid-topple-Ukraine-government-multi-axis-invasion.html
Reckons Russian forces are being boosted from 130,000 to 150,000 or more like you said CB. Apparently they reckon the Russians force is more composed for speed keeping the number down.
If the article is right and Ukraine has got most of their army in the east then Ukraine could be in for a quick defeat as Kyiv is going to be the main target. Possibly Russia may hope to target it and get to 'negotiating' with Pro-Russian elements to form a new government. Odds are though that they may have to go into Kyiv to kick out Ukrainian military elements. They may have to smash Ukraine's army in the east also to break it's will and stop it turning and coming towards Kyiv. I personally think Russia's luck would be in for it to be bloodless. I don't think Ukraine's military will stand down without being hammered first. It may come to the point where Russia decides to back out again if it looks like not enough of Ukraine's forces of influence will come over to make a Pro-Russian Ukrainian government possible. Many Ukrainians are known for being corrupt or out for what they can get regardless of the situation so maybe Russia will get what it wants. End of the day if Russia pushes it they may end up doing an Iraqi style regime change with their forces stuck in the country while they train a new force of Pro-Russian Ukrainian Army up to keep a new Pro-Russian Ukrainian government in power.
I think possibly also Russia may take a fair bit of land from Ukraine as it's own, in addition to Donetsk & Luhansk they may well take, Kharkiv all the way down to Mariupol to link up Crimea with the Black Sea. That will probably work for them as generally Russian speaking & Russian leaning part of Ukraine even if Russian aggression may aggrieve them they will likely be easier to control for Russia. Either that or a land tunnel agreement for Russia to access the Crimea although possibly they may not be so bothered about that now they have built a land bridge. I think a lot will depend on how it all goes down. Again Russia may not be too bothered about annexing large parts of Ukraine but more interested in a Pro-Russian Ukrainian government. If they can carry it out without too much blood lost then they will probably bank on being able to come to terms with the international community later. All depends on how it goes down during invasion as to the precise outcome I think.
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That will probably work for them as generally Russian speaking & Russian leaning part of Ukraine even if Russian aggression may aggrieve them they will likely be easier to control for Russia.
All those regions speak surzhik, not Russian, and they are predominantly ethnically Ukrainian.
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Yeah, this article about says it all, probably the one you saw CB:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10512661/amp/The-race-Kiev-Russian-forces-bid-topple-Ukraine-government-multi-axis-invasion.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10512661/amp/The-race-Kiev-Russian-forces-bid-topple-Ukraine-government-multi-axis-invasion.html)
Reckons Russian forces are being boosted from 130,000 to 150,000 or more like you said CB. Apparently they reckon the Russians force is more composed for speed keeping the number down.
If the article is right and Ukraine has got most of their army in the east then Ukraine could be in for a quick defeat as Kyiv is going to be the main target. Possibly Russia may hope to target it and get to 'negotiating' with Pro-Russian elements to form a new government. Odds are though that they may have to go into Kyiv to kick out Ukrainian military elements. They may have to smash Ukraine's army in the east also to break it's will and stop it turning and coming towards Kyiv. I personally think Russia's luck would be in for it to be bloodless. I don't think Ukraine's military will stand down without being hammered first. It may come to the point where Russia decides to back out again if it looks like not enough of Ukraine's forces of influence will come over to make a Pro-Russian Ukrainian government possible. Many Ukrainians are known for being corrupt or out for what they can get regardless of the situation so maybe Russia will get what it wants. End of the day if Russia pushes it they may end up doing an Iraqi style regime change with their forces stuck in the country while they train a new force of Pro-Russian Ukrainian Army up to keep a new Pro-Russian Ukrainian government in power.
I think possibly also Russia may take a fair bit of land from Ukraine as it's own, in addition to Donetsk & Luhansk they may well take, Kharkiv all the way down to Mariupol to link up Crimea with the Black Sea. That will probably work for them as generally Russian speaking & Russian leaning part of Ukraine even if Russian aggression may aggrieve them they will likely be easier to control for Russia. Either that or a land tunnel agreement for Russia to access the Crimea although possibly they may not be so bothered about that now they have built a land bridge. I think a lot will depend on how it all goes down. Again Russia may not be too bothered about annexing large parts of Ukraine but more interested in a Pro-Russian Ukrainian government. If they can carry it out without too much blood lost then they will probably bank on being able to come to terms with the international community later. All depends on how it goes down during invasion as to the precise outcome I think.
BBC news saying that there are reports that Russia is pulling back some of it's troops from the Ukraine border this morning.
Lavrov has been pushing Putin to let diplomacy do it's work apparently.
The Russian media has been ridiculing the western media's claims that an invasion of Ukraine is imminent.
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BBC news saying that there are reports that Russia is pulling back some of it's troops from the Ukraine border this morning.
Lavrov has been pushing Putin to let diplomacy do it's work apparently.
The Russian media has been ridiculing the western media's claims that an invasion of Ukraine is imminent.
If true it could just be a ruse though not sure how that would help. Just have to wait and see on that one I guess. This news report out today is an interesting one:
http://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukraine-crisis-protect-your-homeland-ukrainian-president-urges-politicians-who-have-fled-the-country-to-return-12542333
Apparently many business leaders, politicians, etc have cowardly fled Ukraine in fear of their lives and taking their money with them lol. They're not taking any chances and are putting their own lives and wealth first and let the rest of Ukrainians face any threat. Gaunty the President of Ukraine is asking for you to return! :D
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All those regions speak surzhik, not Russian, and they are predominantly ethnically Ukrainian.
As in mixed Russian with Ukrainian words or Ukrainian with mixed Russian words. In previous voting in Presidential Elections the Eastern regions of Ukraine always voted for the Pro-Russian candidate, indicating a preference towards Russia. So my guess is they wouldn't be too out of place annexed into Russia. Again I wouldn't wish it as it would mean a visa if I wanted to go there. My guess is that at most they would probably take Donetsk, Luhansk, Mariupol & Kharkiv and that would likely bit it and negotiate with Pro-Russian elements to put in control of the rest of Ukraine.
Surzhik can apparently take on other foreign language words. I've seen guys on You Tube mix Russian with English whenever they are stuck for the Russian word lol. Looks like it doesn't work too bad either.
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Nope. Surzhik is spoken only in Ukraine, not Russia. It is essentially a language in and of itself, neither Ukrainian nor Russian.
Yanukovych only won overwhelming support in Crimea, Donestk and Luhansk.
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This is the report that states a possible Russian withdrawal:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10513527/Putin-step-Russian-tanks-artillery-seen-moving-Ukraine-attack-positions.html
Apparently overnight the US has reported many Russian troops have actually moved closer to the border and that an attack looks likely by the weekend. After that Russia announced that sone troops had completed their exercises and were moving home. Doesn't seem like a lot, one unit in Crimea and one north of Ukraine's border. They could do easily move anywhere along the front line or back again. In recent days may more trips have arrived at the Ukrainian front so I'm not sure that it amounts to anything significant. Could be a likely ruse and Ukraine seems to be cautious in that also. Possibly might be to say, 'hey we were starting to move our army away after training then Ukraine chose to attack part of our army in a (false flag) unprovoked attack' and hence their excuse to attack Ukraine.
Another news paper article on the same:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ukraine-russia-war-invasion-live-26225775
Looks like US Intelligence is pegging the Russian Invasion of Ukraine to start at 3AM tomorrow morning!!!
Makes sense to do it in the early hours. The ground is probably frozen now so could all fit. Possibly now that time is out they may not but certainly the coming days look ominous for Ukraine.
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If true it could just be a ruse though not sure how that would help. Just have to wait and see on that one I guess. This news report out today is an interesting one:
http://news.sky.com/story/russia-ukraine-crisis-protect-your-homeland-ukrainian-president-urges-politicians-who-have-fled-the-country-to-return-12542333
Apparently many business leaders, politicians, etc have cowardly fled Ukraine in fear of their lives and taking their money with them lol. They're not taking any chances and are putting their own lives and wealth first and let the rest of Ukrainians face any threat. Gaunty the President of Ukraine is asking for you to return! :D
WTF are you prattling on about now.
Your posts get more delusional by the day.
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NATO Secretary General saying they see no signs of any de-escalation of Russian forces on the ground on the Ukrainian border...despite what the Russian Defence Ministry said earlier today.
Boris Johnson just said intelligence is telling him that Russia is now erecting large field hospitals in Belarus on the Ukrainian border.
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Here we go...Putin has put up his pretext today for invading Ukraine,exactly as the west had warned..he claims Ukraine is committing mass human rights violations,including genocide in Donbas.
All sounds very much like Hitlers excuse for invading Czechoslovakia and we all know what happened after that.
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Looks like US Intelligence is pegging the Russian Invasion of Ukraine to start at 3AM tomorrow morning!!!
Makes sense to do it in the early hours. The ground is probably frozen now so could all fit. Possibly now that time is out they may not but certainly the coming days look ominous for Ukraine.
Ok, so now the invasion is happening at 3am tomorrow. I don't think so. All downside for Russia to invade. The US is probably trying to make Putin look weak by pretending they have stared him down. I still think most of the world can see through the spin. I guess we will know by 3am tomorrow!
Fathertime!
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LMAO!
NATO is just a distant dream for Ukraine
Western phucking propaganda had brainwashed the vast majority of its population/s. With reports now revealing that Russia had began to move some of its equipment and troops away from the border.
The US immediately checked Kamala Harris' schedule to get an update on her main duty as White House email checker to see if any new emails came in this morning in her computer, and despite the State Department disliking the idea of pulling her away from what she does best as the United States Vice-President, they also recognize no one else in the white house can do a better job than Ms. Harris and decided to send her to the next best thing she does as vice-president, US Border Monitor. The US is dispatching her immediately to make sure Russia continues to demobilize its military along the border. Ms. Harris immediately grabbed an Arizona and Texas map to make sure she doesn't get lost.
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Did "Western propaganda" amass more than 130,000 troops along Ukraine's border?
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Did "Western propaganda" amass more than 130,000 troops along Ukraine's border?
The imminent Russian invasion was. Hyperventilated and scared the bejesus out of everyone except the Ukrainians and Russians.
>:D
Fear no more...Kamala Harris is on her way to the eastern border. Last seen closing in on El Paso....
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Russia says they are pulling back troops from the border.
The games people play...
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Russia says they are pulling back troops from the border.
The games people play...
US Intelligence has since said that they haven't seen any obvious sign of troop withdrawal.
Putin has said to the German Chancellor that he does not wish for war.
What actually happens who knows.
A night time attack at 3am would probably be the best time. Russian forces could be closing in on Kyiv just as Ukrainians are waking up in the morning. I don't reckon it will be tonight though now that time has been spread about.
I think Putin may just be manoeuvring himself now to find a reason to attack. Just after saying he doesn't wish for war may not be the best time as so soon could look very shallow. My guess is if he wants to invade he'll give a good day or two and then make a move. Quite what the excuse will be who knows, possibly as CB suggests to stop the supposed 'genocide' in Eastern Ukraine. Would probably sound better and more justified than any false flag carry on.
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U.S. recommends leaving Belarus in addition to Ukraine. Is Moldova the only "safe " fsu destination?
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A transcript from the first page of our Russian embassy website..... It’s a long read.
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with Sputnik, Echo of Moscow, Govorit Moskva and Komsomolskaya Pravda radio stations, Moscow, January 28, 2022
Question: Will there be a war? We sent them our proposals, we waited for their response, and we got their response. Their answer did not suit us, which was to be expected. Before that, we said and made clear through different representatives that if their response does not suit us, we reserve the right to respond and protect our interests forcefully. Can you explain what that means and what are we going to do? We aren’t going to make McDonald’s illegal after all, are we? If I may quote my subscribers, they frame this question as follows: “When are we going to hit Washington?”, “Will there be a war?”, “How long are we going to procrastinate?”, “Will there be a war?”
Sergey Lavrov: If it depends on the Russian Federation, there will be no war. We don’t want wars, but we won’t allow anyone to trample on our interests or ignore them, either. I cannot say that the talks are over. As you are aware, it took the Americans and their NATO allies more than a month to study our extremely straightforward proposals that are part of the draft treaty with Washington and the agreement with NATO. We received their response only the day before yesterday. It is written in that typically Western style. In many ways, they are confusing the issue, but also providing kernels of rationality on secondary issues such as intermediate- and shorter-range missiles which were quite important for us at some point. When the Americans destroyed the INF Treaty, we urged them to listen to reason. President Vladimir Putin sent a message to all OSCE members suggesting that they join our unilateral moratorium when agreeing on verification measures. It was ignored. Now, it has become part of their proposals. Similarly, our initiatives that were introduced by the General Staff of the Russian Federation to conduct military exercises further away from the borders on both sides, to agree on a critical safe distance between approaching combat aircraft and ships, as well as a number of other confidence-building, deconflicting and de-escalation measures, were ignored. All of that has been rejected during the past two to three years. Now, they propose discussing this. That is, the constructive approach in these proposals has, in fact, been borrowed from Russia’s recent initiatives. I think that now, as we say in Russia, “we are getting somewhere.” To reiterate, most importantly, we should figure out the conceptual pillars that underlie European security.
In 2010 in Astana, and before that in 1999 in Istanbul, all presidents and prime ministers from the OSCE countries signed a package that contained interrelated principles to ensure the indivisibility of security. The West “ripped out” just one slogan from this package: each country has the right to choose its allies and military alliances. But in that package this right comes with a condition and an obligation on each country, to which the Westerners subscribed: not to strengthen their security at the expense of the security of others. With its mantra that the NATO open door policy is sacred and no one can say “no” to Ukraine joining the Alliance and that it’s up to Ukraine to decide, the West is, deliberately and openly, refusing even to acknowledge the second part of the commitments. Moreover, when Josep Borrell, Antony Blinken and many other colleagues of ours talk about the importance of sticking to agreed-upon principles in the context of the Euro-Atlantic security architecture, none of them ever mentions the Istanbul Declaration or the Astana Declaration. They mention the Helsinki Final Act and the 1990 Charter of Paris for a New Europe, in which there is no obligation not to strengthen one’s own security at the expense of others. Russia insisted on including this commitment in subsequent OSCE documents.
Today, as I made clear earlier, I am sending official requests to all my colleagues asking them directly to clarify how they are going to fulfill, in the current historical circumstances, the obligations that their countries have signed onto at the highest level. These are the matters of principle. Before we proceed to discussing individual practical aspects of European security, we want to see the West wriggle out of it this time.
I hope they will give an honest answer about what they have in mind when they implement these agreements in an exclusively unilateral manner that benefits them – again, completely ignoring that fact that the right to join alliances directly hinges on recognising that it is unacceptable to strengthen the security of some states at the expense of the security of others. Let’s see how they respond.
Question: If they give us the answer many experts are discussing, it will most certainly not suit us. Can it lead to a breakdown in relations? Everything we have been hearing recently from the Americans, and they are going to introduce sanctions against the leadership of our entire country, even against you…
Sergey Lavrov: What do you mean “even”? Are you saying I am not worthy of them?
Question: It has never happened in history. There has never been talk of sanctions against the Foreign Minister and the President. This is beyond the pale. Look at what is happening with our diplomats against this backdrop. Yesterday our Ambassador to the United States said that ultimately this might lead to something close to severing relations. As Anatoly Antonov said, our diplomats are simply being expelled although this is presented in a somewhat different way. What should we do? How will it look?
Sergey Lavrov: This is a multilayered question. I will start with the main point: What will we do if the West does not listen to reason? The President of Russia has already said what. If our attempts to come to terms on mutually acceptable principles of ensuring security in Europe fail to produce the desired result, we will take response measures. Asked directly what these measures might be, he said: they could come in all shapes and sizes. He will make decisions based on the proposals submitted by our military. Naturally, other departments will also take part in drafting these proposals.
Now the interdepartmental analysis of the responses received from the US and NATO is underway. Practically everyone knows what these responses are. I have made some remarks. I will note in passing that the American response is all but a model of diplomatic manners compared to NATO’s document. NATO sent us such an ideologically motivated answer, it is so permeated with its exceptional role and special mission that I even felt a bit embarrassed for whoever wrote these texts.
Our reply will be prepared. The proposals contained in our reply will be reported to the President of Russia and he will make a decision. We are developing our line at this point, including the steps that I mentioned.
As for the threats of imposing sanctions, the Americans were told, including during the presidential meeting, that the package you have just mentioned, the one that includes completely cutting off Russia from the West-controlled financial and economic systems, will be equivalent to severing relations. This was said directly. I believe they understand this. I don’t think this is in anyone’s interests.
Now a few words about their treatment of our diplomats. When I was in Washington several years ago, or, to be more precise, in December 2019, a deputy US Secretary of State under Michael Pompeo told my deputy in passing, before saying goodbye, that they were thinking of ways to streamline the functioning of our diplomatic missions on a reciprocal basis. He said American diplomats work abroad for three years. Then they are replaced, sent to a different country or returned to the central office in Washington. So they decided that our diplomats should also observe this term of three years and that’s it. We asked why we were told this on the sly and whether we were the only ones to hear it. We asked whether they had similar thoughts as regards other states, the answer was “no.” No other country was supposed to be subjected to this experiment, just the Russian Federation. This is when we started yet another round of our diplomatic tit-for-tat. We said okay, you have a practice of sending diplomats to serve abroad for three years, and we have a practice of not hiring local personnel to work in our embassies. The Americans hired over 400 people (nationals of Russia and other countries, mostly CIS).
You probably followed this discussion. They started moaning and groaning “How come? Are you ‘unplugging’ us?” You wanted to be guided by the principle that you can do everything and impose on us what you think is right. We will do the same. This is yet another escalation of the crisis that was triggered by Barack Obama who revealed his genuine character. Three weeks before his departure from the White House, he decided to bind Donald Trump’s hands before slamming the door on the way out. He deprived us of five diplomatic properties and expelled dozens of diplomats who had to pack up all their staff with their families in three days. This was the beginning of it all.
We spoke about this again with Antony Blinken in Geneva, completing our conversation on European security. It is necessary to get back to normal in some way. We suggested starting from scratch and resetting everything to zero, beginning with this disgraceful, piddling move by Nobel Prize winner Barack Obama and everything that followed after it. Let’s wait and see. Another meeting is supposed to take place in the next couple of weeks. The Americans are now in a bargaining mood. They are telling us that they need 12 people serving the ambassador alone. They argue that we must therefore exempt them from the quota that we establish on a reciprocal basis. We have explained to them that the agreed-upon quota is 455 people, both for them and for us. On our part, this is a gesture of enormous goodwill. The figure of 455 includes not only the employees of the bilateral diplomatic missions: the Embassy and two general consulates but also 150 people who work at our mission at the UN, which has nothing to do with our bilateral ties or any sense of balance. This was a goodwill gesture. However, we warned them that if they continue their obnoxious behaviour (I don’t know how else to describe their statements that if we don’t accept the guards for their ambassador immediately, they will ask Mr Antonov to leave the US), we still have the option of truly equalising our diplomatic presence.
Question: You know perfectly well that my questions are largely based on our radio listeners’ questions. Since we are talking about Russia-US relations, our listener Michael McFaul of California, a Stanford University professor, has sent a question for you. Why didn’t Russia try at least to get UN Security Council authorisation for the use of force if needed in Ukraine? Doesn’t Russia believe in the UN Security Council any longer? Why hasn’t Russia recognised the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk republics if they are facing the same risk as South Ossetia and Abkhazia in 2008?
Sergey Lavrov: To be honest, the questions are absolutely ignorant. Take the question about the UN Security Council. Did I get it right? Why didn’t (past tense) Russia go to the UN Security Council for authorisation to use force if necessary? I will not even try to explain the futility of the phrase. The word “if” does not belong in the diplomatic practice in any country.
Regarding recognition, I think Mr McFaul, who had made a tremendous contribution to destroying anything constructive in Russian-American relations, just did not have time to read the Minsk agreements approved in February 2015. They are about preserving the unity and territorial integrity of Ukraine. The Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics had already declared independence several months prior to the Minsk meeting. Germany and France, who endorsed the text of the Minsk agreements with us and the Ukrainians, begged us, with Pyotr Poroshenko joining those requests, to persuade the leaders of the two republics to sign the Minsk agreements thus, in essence, changing the results of the spring 2014 referendum in Donbass. Mr McFaul should probably learn the contemporary history of the region. The issue of recognition must be considered in the context of our firm line to get the West to compel Kiev to abide by the Minsk agreements. Then everything will be all right, just as envisaged by this document endorsed by the UN Security Council.
Question: I think that the document we delivered to the United States surprised many of those who read it. It left many, myself included, feeling that Russia won in some kind of a war, while America lost. What I mean is the radical proposals contained in it like returning to NATO’s 1997 borders, etc. My question is, what was all that? It is obvious that the arguments must be really strong for the Americans to return to the 1997 terms or withdraw from countries where they feel so good, confident and comfortable? By all means, you clearly had something in mind. What was that, and what kind of a response did you expect to this letter? After all, the withdrawal must be swift. They were required to respond quickly.
We did our math. You are now working with your fourth US administration, since you became Foreign Minister during George W. Bush’s presidency. Are there any major differences between these teams? Can specific individuals actually make a difference in history as we were once taught, or not? Which of your counterparts did you work better with, and how are you getting along with the current “guys” compared to the previous administrations?
Sergey Lavrov: The proposals we delivered to the United States and NATO on December 15, 2021, may seem excessive only if the expert assessing them proceeds from the premise that “the Americans have already taken away everything there was all around you, so it is too late to make a fuss about it. Just accept it and try to keep the bare minimum they left you.”
What we want is fair treatment. I cited the commitments we all accepted at the highest level within the OSCE. Let me emphasise that presidents, including the US President, signed under these commitments promising that no one would seek to bolster one’s security at someone else’s expense. The United States claims that the right to choose alliances is sacrosanct. But we say, provided it doesn’t worsen the security situation for any other country. This is what you signed, my dear sirs.
They are now trying to present our proposals as an ultimatum, but we are there to refresh their memories and make sure that instead of equivocating they set forth in all honesty their interpretation of what their president signed up for. If he signed these documents while being confident that Russia would never be able to get what they promised, they must acknowledge that. This will be yet another confession on their part. We already reminded them about the promises they made verbally in the 1990s not to expand NATO, but in response they claimed that we got them wrong, that they did not want to mislead us and had little time to think because there were more urgent issues to deal with at the time. This is how they explained it, literally.
We are on our own territory. Michael McFaul has referred to the UN Security Council where the United States intends to discuss what we are doing regarding Ukraine and why we are not working to de-escalate the situation. This is what we hear from a person representing a country with military bases spread around the world, encircling the Russian Federation and the CIS, a country doing who knows what in Iraq (who invited them there?) and so forth. If the Americans want to discuss troop deployments, there are things to talk about. Everywhere we deploy our military forces, we do so based on a request from the host country. We fulfil the agreements we reach with host countries strictly in keeping with international law. Both Josep Borrell and Antony Blinken have been whipping up hysteria on the topic of escalation in Ukraine, demanding that we de-escalate, which has become a mantra of sorts for them, saying that they do hope that Russia chooses the “path of diplomacy.” I take them at their word. For many years after the end of the Soviet Union, we opted for the path of diplomacy. The Istanbul and Astana arrangements I had mentioned are the major outcomes of these diplomatic efforts: everyone undertook not to reinforce one’s security at the expense of others. After all, this was a commitment, a declaration, the supreme act of diplomacy. Use any word you like: compromise, consensus, agreement – anything. If diplomacy is what you stand for, start by delivering on what we already agreed upon.
It is not my intention to discuss our partners on a personal level, though there is much that could be said. Our motto is that we have to work with everyone, and work we do. I can say that I had smooth relationships with all my colleagues. We could always speak candidly with each other at all times even on increasingly divisive matters and on the differences our countries have in their relations with one another.
Question: You are a diplomat. You will never put it the way I’m going to put it right now. But I am a journalist and I can afford to.
Sergey Lavrov: I have said a few undiplomatic things before.
Question: True. But you didn’t say those things into a microphone during an interview. It’s just that we keep an eye on you and print your brilliant sayings on T-shirts.
We recently saved Kazakhstan. We may have to salvage things between Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan. We have also preserved the peace in Karabakh and, generally speaking, in Armenia, too. We are endlessly saving our “exes.” What do we get in return?
Reporters from Komsomolskaya Pravda – colleagues of editor-in-chief Vladimir Sungorkin who is joining us from their studio – have unearthed a great story. They have investigated school textbooks used in former Soviet republics, including those we continue saving, to find out what they say about Russia, about the Soviet Union and about the Russian Empire. Quite a fascinating story. If you haven't read it, you’ll be amazed. Kassym-Jomart Tokayev reports to our President that Russian is widespread in Kazakh schools, and not only in schools. According to our information, this is not entirely true, or rather it is not at all true. Regarding Russians living in those countries, we have many, many harassment complaints. I'm not talking specifically about Kazakhstan, but about the former Soviet republics in general. We have heard many times that the Foreign Ministry is opposed to simplifying the procedure for obtaining Russian citizenship by Russians living in those countries. I know for sure that it is not. I discussed this with you, and I know your position. Moreover, you have recently played an active role in simplifying current laws. Can you tell us how long we will tolerate this kind of attitude towards our people? When will we start returning our people – the way the Greeks, Germans, Jews and many others are taking people back based on their ethnic identity? How will we defend the rights of our people who have found themselves stranded there after their country’s collapse, which was not something they wanted?
Sergey Lavrov: This is several questions in one. As for relations with our neighbours, CSTO allies, CIS partners – we have a problem. Nobody is hiding this. It largely stems from the fact that the newly independent states, which left the Soviet Union and which had been part of the Russian Empire before that, have been given the first chance in a long historical period, the first opportunity to build their own national (the key word) states. They sometimes overdo it because they want to assert their national identity as soon as possible. Nobody would deny this. This always happens when great empires fall apart.
The Soviet Union was heir to the Russian Empire. In fact, it was an imperial entity, although softer and more humane than the British, French or other empires.
Some of the imbalances you are talking about would be inevitable in the current historical period. We certainly wish to avoid them and curtail them. This must be done by all means, including so-called soft power, and we need to allocate significantly more resources for it than now. Our ministry is active in lobbying for appropriate Government decisions and streamlining the state's activities on this track. But we are still far below the level that Western countries have reached in this respect. In addition to soft power, apart from diplomacy, bringing these problems up during meetings with our allies and partners – there is also reciprocity, which refers to considering our partners’ approaches to matters that are relevant to us when making decisions that affect them. This concerns labour migrants, economic assistance, and much more. Our economic systems are interconnected. The Eurasian Economic Union creates conditions, but it is up to the Russian Federation to make most of them a reality, and much more.
I do not see why this should rule out the development of friendly, allied, and very close – including personal – relationships with the elites of our neighbours. This whole situation is the result of a geopolitical catastrophe, the collapse of the Soviet Union. As Russian President Vladimir Putin said, 25 million people (maybe more) then found themselves abroad, outside their country overnight. We had no borders and no idea how to build ties. It took a titanic effort. Now the situation is more or less back to normal; it is clear who should be responsible for what. This is already a great achievement. But the problems you mentioned – our compatriots’ situation – should be addressed on a mutual basis.
I'll make a couple of points now. The first point is we should be more active and open in discussing human rights within the CIS, including the rights of non-titular ethnic groups – Russians in Kazakhstan, Kazakhs in Russia, Azerbaijanis in Armenia and vice versa (although there are very few of them left there). We have reached the following agreement with our CIS partners. Back when the Commonwealth was being created, its Charter included a provision on the CIS Commission on Human Rights as one of its bodies. However, we never got around to actually setting it up. At first, the idea was simple – the West should see that we also address human rights. But over the past few years, we have proposed materialising this statutory provision. There is a general agreement to launch the commission and an understanding that we will primarily deal with human rights issues in the CIS. It should be up to us, to all CIS countries, to make judgments about the human rights situation in our countries, not to Western agencies or bodies like the European Court of Human Rights, which has long lost the ability to rely on the principles of justice and which increasingly politicises its decisions every year.
Last year, the number of regional programmes exceeded 80, that is, apart from the federal programme, including in the regions of the Far East and Trans-Baikal Territory which we see as priority areas for those willing to move to the Russian Federation. I listed the major benefits that have been approved. I will say straight away that we wanted more. I believe that one’s family, parents and relatives having roots not only in the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic but also in other republics of the Soviet Union must have relevance for being entitled to preferential access to citizenship.
We have to consider a number of issues that we would like to settle as soon as possible. The work has not been finished yet. We have now “capitalised” what we have agreed on at the current stage. The President approved the consensus that was reached. We will continue to work to further improve the process and ease conditions for acquiring citizenship. The more so that at President Putin’s direction, the United Russia party, our leading political force, formed a commission on international cooperation and assistance to compatriots abroad. It involves not only helping compatriots come to Russia but also in the sense in which we discussed your first question - so as to make them feel as comfortable as possible upon arrival.
A couple of days ago the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper ran an article about history textbooks published currently in the former Soviet republics. I will not comment on what Estonians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians and Latvians are writing in them. However, regarding the CIS countries, we have repeatedly told them that nationalists should not be given pretexts by exploiting difficult moments in our common history. It ultimately helped all the peoples inhabiting this huge geopolitical space to lay the foundation for building their statehood. While we acknowledge the newly independent states’ aspiration to self-determination which I mentioned, overheated assessments should be avoided as they obviously, and maybe intentionally, play into the hands of extremists and nationalists.
Last year, a decision was signed within the Commonwealth of Independent States on establishing an international association (commission) of historians and archivists from CIS member states. It will focus, among other things, on discussing the issues of our common history with an eye toward a constructive consideration of all matters. I don’t think there will be unified history textbooks, but guidelines will be produced to reflect a consolidated point of view and a variety of perspectives. We have a commission of historians with Germany, Poland and Lithuania. They release joint documents. I believe that a similar mechanism within the Commonwealth will operate much more constructively in view of our closeness in many organisations – CSTO, EAEU, CIS and SCO.
Question: To follow up on our relations with the United States, you just said that we will continue to work with them. A meeting with Antony Blinken will take place soon. However, now that we have their answer, many analysts, in fact, almost all of them, are saying that the United States and the Alliance members are unlikely to change their position on the main issues. They are saying that “the ball is in Russia’s court now, and we are ready for any scenario.” You are saying our President said that we would respond, and that the response is in the works. The Foreign Ministry is involved in this. Can we have a sneak peek at the direction in which our Foreign Ministry is going to move in order to shoot the “ball” back at them? Is it Latin America? Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua? Could it be Europe? Serbia? Maybe we can do something with Iran? Can you give us a hint about what our response should be like for these guys to sit down, use their heads and try to give us different answers to our main questions, rather than secondary ones?
Sergey Lavrov: If they insist on not changing their position, we will not change ours, either. It's just that their position is based on false premises and a flat-out misrepresentation of the facts. Our position is based on things that everyone has signed onto. I don't see any room for a compromise here. Otherwise, what are we supposed to talk about if they openly sabotage and misrepresent previous decisions? This will be a key test for us.
As for the “ball,” we are playing different games. They may be playing baseball, while we may be playing tipcat. What matters is not to try to shirk responsibility, which is exactly what our American and other NATO partners are doing now.
They will not succeed in dodging the question of why they are not complying with what their presidents have signed onto, namely, that it is unacceptable to strengthen one’s security at the expense of the security of others.
Regarding our relations with Latin America, Serbia, Iran, China and many other states that act decently in the international arena, are not trying to unilaterally impose anything on anyone and are always willing to seek mutually acceptable solutions to any issues. Our relations are not subject to the vagaries of life. They are quite comprehensive and cover economic, cultural, educational, and sports contacts. They also include military and defence cooperation in full compliance with international law. I assure you that no matter how developments unfold with regard to European security, we will continue to consistently expand these relations.
I would like to underscore that we are studying their response and we have already provided our initial assessments. It is not satisfactory with regard to the main issue: the West fails to honour its obligations in terms of indivisibility of security and ignores our interests, although we laid them out in an extremely straightforward and clear way
With regard to issues of secondary importance, they were shocked by us presenting these documents publicly. This helped change their negative attitude towards our previous proposals, including medium- and short- range missiles and working out de-escalation measures during the exercises. This means that the West understands only this kind of language, and we should continue in the same vein that we did when we put forward our initiatives. We are now focused on getting explanations. We cannot accept evasive answers when it comes to the indivisibility of security. The West is shirking its commitments just as it failed to deliver on its commitment not to expand NATO. But then (as it is now telling us) it was a verbal commitment. Now, written commitments are available. Respond to us in writing to our written demands. Explain how you fulfill the written commitments signed by your presidents.
Question: When it is necessary to come to the defence of Russian journalists that are subjected to certain restrictions in the US or Germany, and we know the story with RT, the Foreign Ministry is forcefully intervening and defending them both on and off the record, and not only Maria Zakharova but also at the level of ambassador, deputy minister and at your level. When it comes to the countries with which we have closer relations, your department is quite modest. It is enough to recall the case of the Komsomolskaya Pravda journalists and the end of their news office that is practically closed. Its chief is behind bars.
I would like to remind you of the murders of journalists. When our journalists were killed in Ukraine, the Foreign Ministry took a very tough, assertive position that was hard to ignore, but it was silent when our journalists were murdered in the Central African Republic (CAR).
Here’s a question from our listener Dmitry Muratov from Moscow, a Nobel Prize winner and editor-in-chief of Novaya Gazeta. Without any additional investigation or operational measures, the new ambassador of Russia to the CAR named the murderers of the Russian journalists – the 3R group. The Foreign Ministry is aware of this but their families are not. The clothes of the journalists were burned as evidence, no investigation was conducted and the Foreign Ministry does not make any statements as regards the CAR leaders. Maybe, the Foreign Ministry should become more active in these cases with respect to both the Belarusian government and the CAR leaders?
Sergey Lavrov: You are right in saying that we must always defend the rights of Russian citizens, and not only journalists but every citizen, and the Americans have simply abducted dozens of them. We must also protect our journalists when there are obvious reasons for doing so.
We expressed our concern over what was happening with the Komsomolskaya Pravda news office. We talked with Mr Sungorkin about this. As I understand, the matter concerns Belarusian citizens and a specific Belarusian citizen. This is a somewhat different story. Any country that allows dual citizenship follows its own laws if something happens on its territory. I don’t want to go into details but there are issues that require silence. We did quite a bit to persuade the Belarusian authorities to be understanding. Now their position is what it is, and I cannot argue against it. They are ready to open any news office but its employees have to be citizens of the Russian Federation.
We could also look at how Russian journalists are treated in the West and how their working conditions are dictated there. I think a request to employ Russian citizens in Russian media is not beyond the pale. We believe the rights of journalists must be respected without exception everywhere, including Belarus or any other CIS country. If these rights are openly violated, we will continue to raise questions about this.
As for the CAR, we are willing to convey any information we have to the families of the dead journalists. As for the culprits, as you know, the CAR authorities are conducting an investigation. I don’t want to excuse the acts of these murderers. I can only say that journalists should take precautions. If they had at least notified the Foreign Ministry and our Embassy that they were bound for a country with a domestic armed conflict and a terrorist threat, the chances of avoiding this tragedy would have been a bit higher. This was all the more important since they went there as tourists, without declaring the purpose of their visit. Let me repeat again that this is not an excuse but this creates additional security risks in such cases.
Therefore, I’d like everyone to know that we do want journalists to work all over the world, including hot spots. I remove my hat and bow to all those who do such reporting in flak jackets and helmets, and let me say something, in passing, to your colleagues in eastern Ukraine. Once again I am addressing, through you, those who may have some influence on Western journalism and the media. Why do journalists appear sporadically, once every six months, at best, on the Kiev-controlled side of the contact line in Donbass? Why is their reporting so spotty? It would be very interesting to see them there. On the other side of the contact line, our journalists show the results of the atrocities committed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine that are bombing kindergartens, outpatient clinics and residential areas and killing people. According to the OSCE, civilian casualties on the side controlled by Donbass defenders are five times higher than on the opposite side. This speaks for itself.
Let’s return to the Central African Republic. We again sent an inquiry to the CAR government when the information about this 3R group emerged. We will do all we can to bring this investigation to completion. As you know, their government is dealing with this. Let me emphasise once again that we want to know the truth. I would like to impress upon our journalist colleagues and friends the importance of notifying us about trips to hot spots (if you don’t trust the Ministry, I cannot force you to do this). Please do it for the sake of your own safety. It will help.
Question: Thank you very much for your support to our service in connection with what happened to Gennady Mozheiko. Our thanks go to Alexei Venediktov for bringing up this issue. Gennady Mozheiko has been in police custody for four months now and not even once has he been questioned. He’s just sitting there. I appealed to Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko [for assistance] but, so far, there has been no response.
You were right in saying that it is not only a matter of journalists. Today, according to the Russian Embassy in Belarus, 457 Russian nationals are behind bars in Belarus. This is only what the embassy says, and I suspect the real figure is even bigger. Yesterday, another person – Russian national Vera Tsvikevich – was added to this list. She was detained only for taking, during the protests, a photograph of herself, a selfie, in a beautiful red dress with a patrol in the background. She was taken to prison for that. Judging by the precedents, she will be sentenced to two years in prison. Something needs to be done about this.
As for Belarus, we should have a very different relationship with them, as this is the Union State. Today, our journalists believe their work to be the most difficult in Belarus and not in Georgia or America, or Israel, and so on. We are constantly talking about the Union State, saying that we need to synchronise our legislation. What is in store for us, with regard to what I just said? Do we stand any chance of becoming a true Union State?
Sergey Lavrov: As for the Union State, you know, there are 28 union programmes that were approved last autumn...
Question: They have not been published, which is an interesting fact.
Sergey Lavrov: These are framework documents. They contain no secrets. They provide for work that has already started to flesh out each of the 28 programmes with specific and direct legal decisions in the economy, financial activities, transport, communications and so on. It is an important step towards consolidating economic assets. According to the two presidents, this work has to be completed in the next two to three years. This means embarking on the path to the Union State with much broader powers.
Yesterday, we saw off the newly-appointed Ambassador, Boris Gryzlov who was leaving for Belarus. I handed him letters of credence signed by the Russian President. This ceremony was attended by Belarusian Ambassador to Russia Vladimir Semashko. I recalled that our joint work also includes efforts to align the rights of the people of the two countries. Much has already been done. I believe 95 percent of rights have been aligned; however, the remaining outstanding issues in some areas need to be addressed as soon as possible. In particular, this includes the terms on which healthcare services or hotel accommodation are to be provided to people travelling privately. This is all very important for the daily life of people.
But the question you asked is not about what the Union State will look like in the end. Even if the criminal legislation of the two countries has been unified in full, there will still be Russians detained in Belarus and Belarusians detained in Russia. Our embassy keeps a close eye on the course of legal proceedings involving detained Russian nationals. The law enforcement agencies and prosecutor general’s offices of the two countries stay in contact. I haven’t heard anything about Vera Tsvikevich. Is this today’s newspaper?
Remark: No. It was issued in 2020.
Sergey Lavrov: Why then did you say that she was added to this list yesterday?
Remark: She was detained yesterday. The newspaper is old but she was detained yesterday.
Sergey Lavrov: Is she on the staff of Komsomolskaya Pravda?
Remark: No, she is just a Russian national. I said that about 500 Russian nationals were serving sentence in Belarus.
Sergey Lavrov: Four hundred fifty-seven. So, she will be the 458th . We will be watching what happens to her, the way we do it in any other country. There are questions that require close cooperation between the law enforcement agencies. I would rather not talk about them now in public but such questions do exist. It is important that they are resolved in a manner characteristic of two allies or brotherly nations. We will invariably adhere to this line.
Question: Mine is not a question but an urgent request concerning the fate of the German RT channel. We have not faced such unprecedented and uncompromising pressure, actually not even pressure but a real ban on work, in any other country, not the US or the UK, as in the Federal Republic of Germany. It is all disguised with hypocritical statements by German leaders at different levels. Supposedly, they have nothing to do with the closure of the German YouTube channel. Even when we gained the largest audience in the history of the English-language YouTube among the world’s TV channels, we were not shut down. They didn’t dare. But the Germans did. They pressured Luxembourg so as to have our licence denied even though practically everything had been agreed and done there. Ultimately, we were given the licence in Serbia. They pressured the European regulators – so we can’t broadcast with that licence either. Titanic efforts of hundreds of people who had been building the channel amid the pandemic, produced shows, won the audience – all that was in vain. The audience was sacrificed to interests. Nobody shows the German people what we show.
The only thing that can affect them (as was the case with the UK) is reciprocity, which you are more familiar with than we are. Deutsche Welle has not even been designated as a foreign agent, even though this status does not entail what it does in the US (criminal charges). In our country it is just a piece of paper and an occasion to shout about it. In fact, it does not entail anything. Foreign agents take interviews, they are invited to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s press conferences. To say nothing about shutting down Deutsche Welle here the way they shut us down in Germany. This also concerns other German media outlets. Please, help us.
Sergey Lavrov: You don’t need to persuade me. Just yesterday the Russian Embassy in Berlin demanded an explanation. Procedures are underway. This is not within the competence of the federal agency but of the regulator of the German states Berlin and Brandenburg. The embassy’s lawyers looked into precedents. The Axel Springer concern had faced a similar situation but they quickly got a licence.
The key here is that the Germans are trying to place their internal regulations, which allegedly prohibit the registration of state-run channels, above their commitments under the European Convention on Transfrontier Television. According to our information, their regulators are using various pretexts to justify the primacy of their national law. This won’t do. The result will be the same as the NATO enlargement – this is what they want so they won’t do the things they had promised somewhere else. The Germans know that reciprocal measures will follow. I raised this issue when German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock was here on a visit. I think she and her delegation heard it. I am going to have a telephone conversation with her today. I will definitely remind her.
Question: A scandal is unfolding in the United States. CNN published a report citing its own sources. In it, they alleged that the United States and Ukrainian presidents talked on the phone, with Joe Biden supposedly yelling at Vladimir Zelensky in an attempt to explain to him in a raised voice that unless he changes his position on Donbass, Kiev will fall and be pillaged, etc. CNN published this report on its website, but later removed it. Still, the scandal lives on. Both Joe Biden and Vladimir Zelensky are getting questions about this. In this telephone conversation, the President of the United States allegedly requested that the President of Ukraine urgently resolve the special status issue for Donbass.
If Kiev does decide to amend its constitution and grant Donbass a special status, will this affect Russia’s policy on Ukraine in any way? To be honest, you cannot trust these people. There are 720,000 Russian nationals there today, and in the future there could be even more of them. We do understand the threats they may face after obtaining a Russian passport. Are we ready for these eventualities? What will be Russia’s policy on the people’s republics?
Sergey Lavrov: We have always stressed the need to fully implement the Minsk agreements in good faith and following the sequence it sets forth. As my colleagues and I have been saying in our public statements, during the Geneva summit meeting in June 2021 between the Russian and United States presidents, Joe Biden said at his own initiative that he wanted to facilitate the implementation of the Minsk agreements, including in terms of granting an autonomous (this was the word he used) status to Donbass. He understands everything.
This is consistent with what the Minsk agreements say. The special status provisions they set forth cannot be subject to any equivocal interpretations. What needs to be done is clear. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken reassured me that they want to help implement the Minsk agreements. His under-secretaries said that the US would not join the Normandy format but still wants to help. If they do force Kiev (nobody else can do it), this outcome would suit us. So far, I find this hard to believe. They are playing a game by continuing to supply weapons. Some tend to interpret these deliveries as a support for those ready to engage in a senseless armed conflict. This is something many have to factor into their projections. In fact, hardly anyone wants this, but there is still a small group of people who stand to benefit from it, in one way or another.
Why are the Americans the only ones that can force Kiev into compliance? The Normandy format met in Paris at the level of political advisors to the four leaders. Deputy Chief of Staff of the Presidential Executive Office Dmitry Kozak travelled there. They agreed to take two more weeks to understand how they can move forward in carrying out the Minsk agreements.
France, Germany and the European Union name Russia as a party to the conflict. What kind of agreement can we reach in these circumstances? They are saying we must comply with the Minsk agreements. President Vladimir Putin and Dmitry Kozak have repeatedly stated that no one has ever given us an answer to the question of which specific provision we must comply with. The implication is that everything depends on Russia. It's like we snap our fingers and everything will come to pass.
Kiev realised that Berlin and Paris would not insist on it complying with the Minsk agreements. President Zelensky said he didn’t like the Package of Measures, but it was nonetheless important, because it keeps Western sanctions on Russia in place. That’s all there is to it: nothing but crude cynicism. Ukraine realises that it can do anything now. Vladimir Zelensky and his regime are being used (primarily by the Americans) to escalate tensions and to engage their underlings in Europe, who are playing along with the Americans as they pursue their Russophobic undertakings. The future of Ukraine is not Washington’s main goal in this particular case. It is important for the United States to escalate tensions around the Russian Federation in order to “close” this issue and then “deal with” China, as US political scientists are saying. How do they plan to “close” it? I have no idea. If there are any reasonable political strategists still out there, they must realise that this road leads nowhere.
The Americans are using Ukraine against Russia so openly and cynically that the Kiev regime itself is now scared. They are now saying there is no need to aggravate the discussion and are suggesting that the Americans keep down the rhetoric, and are also wondering why evacuate diplomats. Who is evacuating diplomats? The Americans and other Anglo-Saxons (Canada and the UK), meaning they know something others don’t. Perhaps, pending a provocation on their part, we should take precautionary measures with regard to our diplomats as well. We’ll see about that.
I have already answered the question about how we feel about the recently vocalised idea of recognising the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics. My answer is straightforward: we must push for the implementation of the Minsk agreements. There’s a host of people out there who are ready to grab any excuse to remove blame from Kiev for the sabotage which it has been involved in for eight years now with regard to the document approved by the UN Security Council.
Question: You said that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has lost touch with reality. Maybe you live in different realities? Today, he will give a live interview to Ekho Moskvy. Do you want to say hi to him or ask a question?
Sergey Lavrov: Serves him right.
Question: I looked through the list of the sanctions approved by the US Congress and Treasury last year. The absolute majority of them are associated with the name of Alexey Navalny, not Ukraine. The OPCW (independent German, French and Swedish labs) found traces of a poisonous substance in his blood, which clearly means that he was poisoned. The Foreign Ministry requested assistance. But Russia did not open a criminal investigation. Germany said in that case there would be no help. We are members of the OPCW. You have seen the report on Navalny. Do you continue to cooperate on this matter? We are in the minority in every single international European organisation. We are saying that the ECHR, PACE, the OSCE and the OPCW are Russophobes. Could it be that Russia is the one that is out of step?
Sergey Lavrov: I'll start off by saying that I watched Euronews yesterday. There was a story about the village of Dvani in Georgia, near the South Ossetian border. It is located in an area that Georgia considers its territory. The reporter said he was in the village of Dvani at the separation line, with the administrative border that Russia keeps fortifying behind him. A house owned by a Georgian “was burned down during the war.” The new one “came into the Russian military’s surveillance zone.” A local resident said that we were “abducting people in unfathomable ways.” A Georgian journalist said that he has been “working in the villages near the conflict zone for several years now” and that “14 years have passed since the war that forced the people to live in difficult circumstances ended. They are losing their lands and forest allotments almost daily. People are being kidnapped. Russian troops are detaining them,” etc. Then the reporter continued to say that “after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Georgia was the first among the former Soviet republics to experience an escalation of separatism and armed confrontation, and thousands of refugees are still unable to return home.”
He didn’t say, though, anything about what kind of separatism took root in Georgia even before the breakup of the Soviet Union. Zviad Gamsakhurdia was quite chauvinistic in his demands for Abkhazians to get out or to “georgify.” He believed South Ossetia residents did not deserve humane treatment. Nobody is saying anything about it. Then comes a brilliant phrase: “In 2008, when the conflict entered the hot phase, Russia took South Ossetia’s side.” This is Euronews, which touts itself as a channel of fair news and an epitome of diversity when it comes to presenting diverse viewpoints. They did not even mention how the fratricidal conflict began.
I’m saying this because you asked a question about the OPCW without mentioning the reference points that require clarification. If we state it the way you framed your question, then Michael McFaul and other unsophisticated listeners may get the impression that all of that is true. You are saying we asked the Germans to provide clarifications, and they wanted us to open a criminal investigation before they give us anything. What is that all about? Germany's obligations under the European Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters are not dependent on whether a particular country opens a criminal investigation or not. Under our laws, a criminal case can be opened if there is corroborating evidence. This is in no way inconsistent with multiple instances of using this procedure in relations with many other countries. We have a lot of material which we circulate around the world. I’m sure reporters from Ekho Moskvy and other media outlets have access to it.
We are still waiting for an answer to our question about who flew in to pick up Alexey Navalny. Why the plane that flew to Omsk to pick him up was chartered the day before he fell ill. Why are there no answers to the purely specific and factual questions asked in the German Parliament: how come the pilot, who did not want Maria Pevchikh to take the bottle onboard, eventually let her do so? There was also a sixth passenger. These questions were asked at the Bundestag. Why is it impossible to question Ms Pevchikh? The Germans say she did not communicate with the blogger and did not visit him at the hospital. She wrote that she did. The bottle she brought along has not been shown to anyone. Our requests to run a joint examination of it are rejected. Allegations that illegal poisonous substances were found in Mr Navalny’s body began after no CWC-prohibited substances had been found by the Charité clinic, which is a civilian hospital. All of that was “discovered” at a clinic operated by the Bundeswehr in a matter of just three days. Before that, a similar scenario unfolded with the Skripal family. We insisted that the investigation must be grounded in hard facts, not “highly likely” assumptions. We cited facts that there are almost 150 patents for the infamous Novichok in the West, in particular, the United States. It was developed in Europe as well. Then Germany, France, Sweden and many other countries swore that they did not have this technology. Without the technology, it is impossible to detect this substance in the human body in three days. Any more or less experienced chemist is aware of that.
At first, the Germans told us that they would not give us the materials, because they constituted “classified military information.” How’s that? We are being accused of murder or attempted murder, and the information is classified. By definition, they should not have access to this technology if they are bona fide participants in the CWC. Then they began to say that they could give it to us, but Navalny says no. What's next? At the same time, his lawyer criticised Dmitry Peskov for accusing the blogger of collaborating with the CIA and demanded proof. What kind of proof? US intelligence officers came to see him at the hospital, which Dmitry Peskov mentioned. We are demanding proof behind the accusation of attempted murder, but we are then told that he does not want to.
We asked the OPCW to provide the results but were told that they could do so only with the permission of the Germans. The circle closed. Read carefully the paper released by the OPCW. It says that some substances were discovered that are similar in composition to other substances that are on the OPCW’s banned chemicals list. Not a word about Novichok. Neither the Germans, nor the French, nor the Swedes gave us the formula. It’s classified. The formula is the proof of whether this is true or pure deception and lies.
I am inclined to believe that so far the West has no grounds to accuse us. This is done for the purpose of instigating a provocation. I mentioned the day when a special flight was chartered to fly to Omsk to pick up Mr Navalny. The day before the poisoning, the Germans (according to the OPCW report) asked The Hague for assistance in conducting the investigation of this case. Then they said it was a typo, and everything actually happened later. There are many interesting things there. In early September 2020, the Germans contacted the OPCW. The OPCW Secretariat concealed this from us for several days. In hindsight, they confessed that the Germans allegedly asked them not to tell anyone. Doesn’t it all look suspicious? It does to me, and suspicions run deep. I encourage Ekho Moskvy and other radio stations’ listeners to go the Foreign Ministry’s website and read the material containing a vast number of legitimate questions that remain unanswered by the West to this day.
Question: The most popular question: will there be a war with Ukraine?
Sergey Lavrov: This is what we started off with. If it’s up to the Russian Federation, there will be no war. I do not rule out the possibility that someone out there would like to provoke hostilities.
According to the West, there are about 100,000 troops on the line of contact. The Kiev regime does not control most of these armed men. A significant portion of the units that are stationed there include the former volunteer battalions, current territorial defence units, and militia. MANPADS are already being handed out to them. The media are reporting this information. They are encouraged to bring along hunting rifles with them, because there aren’t enough MANPADS for everyone. This is a militaristic frenzy. I cannot rule out the possibility of someone losing it, just like that soldier who shot and killed five of his fellow servicemen.
Question: Why aren’t we talking with Vladimir Zelensky? He is one of us, a former Komsomol member with a background in Channel One.
Sergey Lavrov: He is also a “piano player.” President Vladimir Putin answered this question. If President Zelensky wants to talk about normalising bilateral relations that were damaged by the unilateral actions of his regime, actions to which we responded, Russia stands ready to do so. Let him come to Moscow, Sochi, or St Petersburg, wherever they may agree. But if he wants to discuss Donbass – please go to the Contact Group, which, according to the Normandy format’s decision, is in charge of all settlement issues directly between Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk. When he says he won’t talk to us, this bodes ill for the domestic Ukrainian crisis. If he has something to offer in order to restore bilateral relations, the destruction of which Kiev, Vladimir Zelensky and his predecessor initiated, we are ready to consider his proposals. President Vladimir Putin has stated this in no uncertain terms.
Question: Another meme for a T-shirt from Minister Lavrov: “Please go to the Contact Group.”
Question: Are we going to evacuate our staff from Kiev as well?
Sergey Lavrov: We discussed this bout of insanity that is being fomented in Ukraine, primarily by the Anglo-Saxons and some Europeans. Dramatic claims that everyone must leave the place are part of this insanity. People who came there to tend to their business are urged to leave. Diplomats and their families are being taken home and non-core staff is being cut.
We cannot let it go unnoticed or turn a blind eye to it. If they are doing this (even though the Ukrainians haven’t asked them to), could it be that the Anglo-Saxons are up to something? The British particularly have a long track record in this area.
Question: This happened after you said something during a meeting with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. What did you say or show to him? Immediately after the Geneva meeting, he started saying that diplomats should be evacuated. You must have done something.
Sergey Lavrov: You are mistaken if you think that I have lost the ability to understand what is happening around me. I didn't say anything to him. In a one-on-one conversation (I hope this will not offend him) he told me that if something happens, their people would be there... It sounded rather strange to me. That’s what I told him.
Take my word for it, we discussed nothing but security guarantees. Then I raised the issue of the unacceptable state of affairs with our diplomatic missions. I made a proposal which we eventually agreed upon. In a couple of weeks, another meeting between experts will take place. I can assure you that no threats were uttered. However, we cannot leave things without analysis. We are analysing them to see what stands behind the Anglo-Saxons’ actions.
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U.S. recommends leaving Belarus in addition to Ukraine. Is Moldova the only "safe " fsu destination?
Moldova is apparently even poorer than Ukraine, even I would have a godlike presence there :D
Apparently Russia has hit Ukraine with cyber attacks, on its banking and on its defense organisation. It was generally thought this would happen before an attack. My guess is that its only going to be effective so long before the Ukrainians have their defense IT network up and running again otherwise the Russians will have to try and cyber attack again. Maybe a Russian attack is very soon, maybe 3AM Thursday night or similar.
Whatever the case Russia doesn't seem very sincere with their intentions to talk and reach an agreement with the West & Ukraine. After all why keep hitting Ukraine with cyber attacks like this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10515943/Ukraine-hit-cyber-attack-targeting-ministry-defence-banks-alleged-Russian-hybrid-war.html
Apparently if anything Russia has added more troops rather than withdrawn any this article says:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10517169/Putin-stays-talks-sends-troops-Biden-says-war-risk.html
They reckon that they may carry out a false flag under the pretext that just as they were withdrawing they were attacked what I was thinking or the reason to attack as genocide in Eastern Ukraine as CB thought.
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Ben Wallace confirmed this morning that there has been "no evidence" of any Russian de-escalation,that 60% of Russia's ground forces backed-up by Air and Naval power,continue to encircle Ukraine,and indeed that more military equipment and field hospitals are being installed on the border.
So it seems the Russians lied yesterday.
Who knew ? :rolleyes:
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Ben Wallace confirmed this morning that there has been "no evidence" of any Russian de-escalation,that 60% of Russia's ground forces backed-up by Air and Naval power,continue to encircle Ukraine,and indeed that more military equipment and field hospitals are being installed on the border.
So it seems the Russians lied yesterday.
Who knew ? :rolleyes:
So looks even more like they are getting fully prepared for an Invasion. That they lied and tried to pull a stunt seemingly suggests that they can't be trusted and are up to something. Possibly they may bring in more air support for their troops, so possibly an Invasion around the end of the Olympics may occur as one Ukrainian General seemed to think.
I also wonder if the Russians might end up permanently encamped around the Ukrainian border. Long term it will no doubt play havoc with the economy, flights will be a no go and if Russia continues to blockade Ukraine's ports that will have a particularly damaging impact on their economy. Possibly trying to cause enough economic damage to get Ukraine to bend to its will. The threat of a Russian Invasion all year round could take its toll on Ukrainian citizens also. Apparently it was reckoned that Putin could only keep his forces there till the end of Spring roughly due to cost but who knows perhaps that person was wrong. Main cost I would have thought would be in moving the army back and forth and on military exercises, firing missiles, etc. The rest of the cost surely is what Russia pays all year round anyway, the cost of service personnel and equipment.
I'm not sure that Russia would take in the cost of moving the army around like it has done for no purpose. They did last year but that looks like it was a trial run. This time the signs of an Invasion seem a lot more prominent. I'm still thinking Putin is on the last stage of preparing for an Invasion and just manoeuvring for a reason then will occur. Could be within days now.
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All this reminds me of the ReForGer exercises in the 70's and 80's. Convoys of of US tanks and military equipment filling the autobahns going east, Air Force fighters buzzing low enough to make dishes in the china cabinet shake, and soldiers setting up camp in your village. I wonder how USSR felt about all that back then. I was just a kid and it was quite a spectacle, later on not so much in the military having to put on gas masks and such during exercises.
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So looks even more like they are getting fully prepared for an Invasion. That they lied and tried to pull a stunt seemingly suggests that they can't be trusted and are up to something. Possibly they may bring in more air support for their troops, so possibly an Invasion around the end of the Olympics may occur as one Ukrainian General seemed to think.
I also wonder if the Russians might end up permanently encamped around the Ukrainian border. Long term it will no doubt play havoc with the economy, flights will be a no go and if Russia continues to blockade Ukraine's ports that will have a particularly damaging impact on their economy. Possibly trying to cause enough economic damage to get Ukraine to bend to its will. The threat of a Russian Invasion all year round could take its toll on Ukrainian citizens also. Apparently it was reckoned that Putin could only keep his forces there till the end of Spring roughly due to cost but who knows perhaps that person was wrong. Main cost I would have thought would be in moving the army back and forth and on military exercises, firing missiles, etc. The rest of the cost surely is what Russia pays all year round anyway, the cost of service personnel and equipment.
I'm not sure that Russia would take in the cost of moving the army around like it has done for no purpose. They did last year but that looks like it was a trial run. This time the signs of an Invasion seem a lot more prominent. I'm still thinking Putin is on the last stage of preparing for an Invasion and just manoeuvring for a reason then will occur. Could be within days now.
More of Trenchies winning theories.
Mobilising an army incurs vast costs.
No country can afford to keep its armed forces mobilized for war for an extended period from peacetime positions.
Cost aside, it has all kinds of other implications affecting war readiness.
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I'm not sure that Russia would take in the cost of moving the army around like it has done for no purpose.
Doesn't cost them a dime more than they already pay. In fact, they profit from the spike in oil and energy prices.
Meanwhile, US and NATO are shelling out a bundle burning additional fuel, further helping to raise demand and fill Putin's pockets even more.
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US Intelligence has since said that they haven't seen any obvious sign of troop withdrawal.
Putin has said to the German Chancellor that he does not wish for war.
What actually happens who knows.
A night time attack at 3am would probably be the best time. Russian forces could be closing in on Kyiv just as Ukrainians are waking up in the morning. I don't reckon it will be tonight though now that time has been spread about.
I think Putin may just be manoeuvring himself now to find a reason to attack. Just after saying he doesn't wish for war may not be the best time as so soon could look very shallow. My guess is if he wants to invade he'll give a good day or two and then make a move. Quite what the excuse will be who knows, possibly as CB suggests to stop the supposed 'genocide' in Eastern Ukraine. Would probably sound better and more justified than any false flag carry on.
It why I said the games people play ....
On BOTH sides.
As far as your thoughts on attack timing.
1pm.3am 9pm ,makes zero difference in modern warfare.
Do you think military sleeps in hoping to fight after first coffee?
As far as the average citizen being in bed at 3am as he works a day shift.
Unless per organized that average citizens effect on initial invasion is fundamentally zero.
(Granted that same ordinary citizen in an occupied country resisting in organized guerilla warfare is devastating and a country cant be held if most citizens resist)
But initial.invasion timing if all.out war (and I still do not think that will occur) could be anytime the russian military wants it to be. And they could have already ,procrastination if it was their intent hurts them, so I just dont think its thecroot intent
They have far superior airpower and would take out communications first. Then mop up. Modern history shows this is less than 24 hours (typically much less) by any modern major power in initial conflict.(Iraq or afganistan was on a scale of 100s of times the experoenced military personal and preparedness of Ukraine)
Now occupying it is a completely different issue.
This is posturing for effect ,and look how effective it has been?
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Our current hyperventilating administration's intelligence agencies went from *an imminent invasion as soon as within this week* to *an attack is still a distinct possibility*.
Blood, guts and gore, baby. The evil empire amasses thousands of military personnel and its war machines ready to pounce on poor military-inferior territories, conducting very provocative military drills, yadayada - and not expect a nation not to react about such displays of hegemony?
From the Korean peninsula, to the China seas, to the borders of Estonia, Kosovo and plenty other European nations, Somalia and the Congos, the Arabian peninsulas, the Persian gulf to the Barents sea...
WE (the US) really need to stop these *threats of imminent attack* upon other nations in our attempt to spread our brand of freedom (LMAO) and democracy (sic).
Proof? Ask yourself a very simple question: Which nation had bombed and invaded other nations in the recent past?
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Our current hyperventilating administration's intelligence agencies went from *an imminent invasion as soon as within this week* to *an attack is still a distinct possibility*.
Blood, guts and gore, baby. The evil empire amasses thousands of military personnel and its war machines ready to pounce on poor military-inferior territories, conducting very provocative military drills, yadayada - and not expect a nation not to react about such displays of hegemony?
From the Korean peninsula, to the China seas, to the borders of Estonia, Kosovo and plenty other European nations, Somalia and the Congos, the Arabian peninsulas, the Persian gulf to the Barents sea...
WE (the US) really need to stop these *threats of imminent attack* upon other nations in our attempt to spread our brand of freedom (LMAO) and democracy (sic).
Proof? Ask yourself a very simple question: Which nation had bombed and invaded other nations in the recent past?
Russia for a start..they invaded and bombed Georgia in 2008.
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Russia for a start..they invaded and bombed Georgia in 2008.
Very true. Ukraine in 2014, yes!
Russia= II
UK = http://www.mentalfloss.com/article/13019/there-are-only-22-countries-world-british-haven%E2%80%99t-invaded (http://www.mentalfloss.com/article/13019/there-are-only-22-countries-world-british-haven%E2%80%99t-invaded)
US = ??
How'bout the UK, grasshopper? The US?!? how'bout those peace and freedom-loving nations? If you get stumped, LOVE to help a bruddah out!
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On a Sky News live feed from Kiev a Ukrainian guy got quite emotional as he said Ukrainians are saying "God bless the Queen " for the support the UK is giving Ukraine.
Trench will be like a rock star if he can get over there this year. :)
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Very true. Ukraine in 2014, yes!
Russia= II
UK = ??
US = ??
How'bout the UK, grasshopper? The US?!? how'bout those peace and freedom-loving nations? If you get stumped, LOVE to help a bruddah out!
Yep we're just as bad..no argument from me about that.
Many Brits,including me,consider Tony Blair a war criminal for the invasion of Iraq based on fabricated info put out about WMD.
Millions over here protested about it at the time.
Blair didn't get sent down but instead made millions in after-dinner speeches in the USA. >:D
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Yep we're just as bad..no argument from me about that.
Many Brits,including me,consider Tony Blair a war criminal for the invasion of Iraq based on fabricated info put out about WMD.
Millions over here protested about it at the time.
Blair didn't get sent down but instead made millions in after-dinner speeches in the USA. >:D
Mr. Tony Blair??? That's it? Are you sure?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/libya-civil-war-david-cameron-gaddafi-bombing-brexit-a8863306.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/libya-civil-war-david-cameron-gaddafi-bombing-brexit-a8863306.html)
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I'm no fan of Cameron,but in fairness to him Libya attacked us first..with Lockerbie.
Libya and Gaddafi brought it upon themselves.
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I'm no fan of Cameron,but in fairness to him Libya attacked us first..with Lockerbie.
Libya and Gaddafi brought it upon themselves.
Really?! How'bout the colonization of Tripolitania? Does that count? Can colonization fall in the definition of an 'invasion'? Oppression, slavery, murder, rape, pillaging?
What do you think?
How'bout Afghanistan? What did that country ever do to the UK?
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Ukraine's problems have basically cone about because of the EU. There was a push in Ukraine prior to 2014 to look to EU membership, when the then Ukrainian President backed out an agreement that would have put Ukraine on the path to EU Membership that's when it all went south, Ukrainian unrest, overturning the Ukrainian government of the day and ousting the then Ukrainian President as he was seen as too aligned with Russia for some. The ever expansionist EU just couldn't hold back from seeking to expand further. Now they are stony broke and unable to thank god. Poland & Hungary are becoming discontent and in Ukraine joining the EU isn't as popular as it once was in any case. Anyhow the increasingly pro western anti Russian government from 2014 onwards has riled Russia up a lot. I think the new Ukrainian government after the unrest in 2014 should have been more conciliatory towards the ex-President and eastern Ukrainian regions then they wouldn't be in this mess.
On the other hand if they kept hold of a couple of hundred nukes they wouldn't be in this mess either. Both giving up all their nukes and trying to join the EU bad mistakes I think. Prior to 2014 Russia seemed content enough with the situation with Ukraine. I'm not saying it is right what Russia is doing, clearly it is not but I think bad policy mistakes have been made along the way both by Ukraine and the EU.
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GQBlues,
If you're accusing British troops of rape,pillage and murder in Tripolitania i suggest you provide proof of this to the British Ministry of Defence....i'm sure they'll be intrigued by your evidence of this .
As for Afghanistan you can thank Tony Blair for that again.seems that his bum-licking of the USA made him a very wealthy man on the USA after-dinner circuit.
Of course Russia spent nine years killing people in Afghanistan,after they invaded in 1979, before the UK entered the country...i don't see you questioning them though.
I wonder why ?
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Russia also has aided the al-Assad regime in Syria, rather successfully. Unbothered by pesky concepts such as "human rights", they have allegedly killed more civilians than terrorists, in bombing campaigns that have used cluster bombs and white phosphorous bombs.
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GQBlues,
If you're accusing British troops of rape,pillage and murder in Tripolitania i suggest you provide proof of this to the British Ministry of Defence....i'm sure they'll be intrigued by your evidence of this .
Accused? LMAO. Fancy that, eh? Short/long term memory loss, bruddah?
As for Afghanistan you can thank Tony Blair for that again.seems that his bum-licking of the USA made him a very wealthy man on the USA after-dinner circuit.
It seems 'blaming' Blair is rampant in your line of thinking..in the US that's called 'passing the buck'. How did Mr. Blair come into such a powerful position again to cause the UK's bloody hand in Afghanistan again?
But giving Blair a break, what about UK's bloody period in Afghanistan BEFORE Mr. Tony Blair was even born?
f course Russia spent nine years killing people in Afghanistan,after they invaded in 1979, before the UK entered the country...i don't see you questioning them though.
I wonder why ?
Oh trust me, I'm not a Russia apologist, much less a Putin apologist. I have more than a dozen bricks on my hand myself based on the country I reside in currently. Since you and I are are discussing 'invasions' in this proverbial glass house, it looks as those you've conveniently (intentionally/ignorantly?) forgotten more than a few bricks yourself since you've been so loud about this current event, considering the VERY BLOODY British hands and legacy in the world - currently and in historical past, yah know...
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
>:D
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Why does the past matter, beyond us doing better in the future?
Do you think African Americans should receive reparations, as proposed, because of America's history with slavery?
Should first nations be compensated with more land? More money?
Should Arab countries pay reparations to Africans, Slavs, Americans, and the Europeans they enslaved? Should the Turks? How about the African traders who brought them to Arabs? Should Belgium pay reparations to the Congolese for their rape of that country, which makes the Brits look like choirboys? How about the Spaniards? The Portuguese? The Japanese? The Chinese? The list of those that are "innocent" is, in reality, non existent. The only reason the Brits get singled out is because they were exceptionally successful.
We are a planet of predators, and no one comes to the dance with clean hands.
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Why does the past matter, beyond us doing better in the future?
Do you think African Americans should receive reparations, as proposed, because of America's history with slavery?
Should first nations be compensated with more land? More money?
Should Arab countries pay reparations to Africans, Slavs, Americans, and the Europeans they enslaved? Should the Turks? How about the African traders who brought them to Arabs? Should Belgium pay reparations to the Congolese for their rape of that country, which makes the Brits look like choirboys? How about the Spaniards? The Portuguese? The Japanese? The Chinese? The list of those that are "innocent" is, in reality, non existent. The only reason the Brits get singled out is because they were exceptionally successful.
We are a planet of predators, and no one comes to the dance with clean hands.
Did you conveniently left off the people of first nations in Canada? How about the children of the 'Residential Schools' (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/29/the-childrens-graves-at-residential-schools-in-canada-evoke-the-massacres-of-indigenous-australians)? These aren't exactly 'the past', you know. Rather pretty current actually.
I agree *WE ALL* must do better in the future. The first order for that is, quit throwing bricks at others when all the while neglecting our own demons. Unless we do that, then people simply chooses to be in denial and are too busy blowing hot air because they're either being purposely ignorant or are simply hypocrites.
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Blinky reckons even more units being moved to the Ukrainian Front rather than away:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10519563/Secretary-State-Blinken-says-Putin-moving-critical-units-Ukrainian-border.html
Looks like they are massing for a major attack. Invasion likely very imminent!
Apparently the troops that were moved were moved back to their home base that is even nearer the Ukraine border than where they were. In the mean time Russia has moved up even more troops. Really does look like they are getting to the climax, their moving troops right up to Ukraine's border now.
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Did you conveniently left off the people of first nations in Canada? How about the children of the 'Residential Schools' (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/29/the-childrens-graves-at-residential-schools-in-canada-evoke-the-massacres-of-indigenous-australians)? These aren't exactly 'the past', you know. Rather pretty current actually.
I agree *WE ALL* must do better in the future. The first order for that is, quit throwing bricks at others when all the while neglecting our own demons. Unless we do that, then people simply chooses to be in denial and are too busy blowing hot air because they're either being purposely ignorant or are simply hypocrites.
I have no demons.
I've never invaded another country or killed,maimed ,pillaged or raped.
Have you ?
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I have no demons.
I've never invaded another country or killed,maimed ,pillaged or raped.
Have you ?
For a fact, I know a bunch of 4th graders in US public schools that can actually manage a coherent debate compared to you. Run along...
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For a fact, I know a bunch of 4th graders in US public schools that can actually manage a coherent debate compared to you. Run along...
Interesting that you chose to deflect my question.
Well,just to inform you,as someone who has never invaded another country or killed,maimed.pillaged or raped, that means i have every right to question a leader ( Putin ) who has a history of sending troops in to do just that...and may be about to do the same again....whether you like my questioning him or not.
That doesn't make me a hypocrite...as i would be doing the same if it was British troops on the Ukraine border...plus i have no demons to prick my conscience.
But it isn't Brits it's Russian troops.....and it isn't the past ..it's in the here and now.
So you can sit there and rant at and mock the west all you like, the facts are it's Russian troops on the Ukraine border..not evil western powers.
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Did you conveniently left off the people of first nations in Canada? How about the children of the 'Residential Schools' (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/29/the-childrens-graves-at-residential-schools-in-canada-evoke-the-massacres-of-indigenous-australians)? These aren't exactly 'the past', you know. Rather pretty current actually.
I didn't leave off first nations in Canada. See my post.
I did not refer to residential schools because residents and their survivors have been compensated. I was involved in negotiating some of those settlements, a little more than a decade ago. The number is over $50 billion currently. Keep in mind, not all FN were in residential schools.
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I didn't leave off first nations in Canada. See my post.
*Compensated* What a nice, comforting word to some. Is that what it is all about to you? Compensation for those who survived? Must be a 'common' word in the Commonwealth. LMAO. Prince Andrew, I'm sure, is feeling so much better of himself lately. Compensation.
I did not refer to residential schools because residents and their survivors have been compensated. I was involved in negotiating some of those settlements, a little more than a decade ago. The number is over $50 billion currently. Keep in mind, not all FN were in residential schools.
:-X No. (Un)fortunately, not anymore. Not amongst us anymore either.
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Touch a nerve? That's your reply? >:D
LMAO! You must be kidding me/us? Holy Molly! Let me help you out as 'thinking' is obviously not your suit. Place the mouse cursor to the 'flag' underneath that gorgeous mug below my handle. A country's name will appear. Let me know if you need help with that, too.
Stars and Stripes. Home of the Brave. U-S-A! Ring a bell? Yes/No?
I'm well aware of the flags beneath posters handles..but not everyone bothers to change their flag when they move to another country....i don't when i live abroad for a period.
I've looked at all your posts on this thread....and not once have you questioned Putin or Russia about the build-up of military forces on Ukraine's border...not once.
All you do is castigate the USA/UK/NATO as if's it's us who have troops on Ukraine's border.
I wonder why ?
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I'm no fan of Cameron,but in fairness to him Libya attacked us first..with Lockerbie.
Libya and Gaddafi brought it upon themselves.
I don't blame countries like Libya that have little choice but to resort to 'terrorism'. They will be massacred militarily, so they do what they have to do to still put up a fight. They lost a lot of people/military prior to this Lockerbie incident, so they probably feel justified in doing SOMETHING to retaliate. Western nations like the US and United Kingdom have been able to create a tough business environment for many nations and have been willing to use our military to enforce it. By taking it to that level, it makes everybody a target.
Fathertime!
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I've never invaded another country . . .
What about your WMVM or WOVO incursions ?
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*Compensated* What a nice, comforting word to some. Is that what it is all about to you? Compensation for those who survived? Must be a 'common' word in the Commonwealth. LMAO. Prince Andrew, I'm sure, is feeling so much better of himself lately. Compensation.
:-X No. (Un)fortunately, not anymore. Not amongst us anymore either.
Unlike the US, Canada entered into treaties with all its First Nations. That's what all the court cases are about - the terms and conditions of those treaties. So, based on the treaties, it is, in fact, compensation that is relevant.
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Looks like they are massing for a major attack. Invasion likely very imminent!
I've read this before, and before, and before! Looks like the 3am attack yesterday didn't happen.
Fathertime!
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Blinky reckons even more units being moved to the Ukrainian Front rather than away:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10519563/Secretary-State-Blinken-says-Putin-moving-critical-units-Ukrainian-border.html
Looks like they are massing for a major attack. Invasion likely very imminent!
Apparently the troops that were moved were moved back to their hone base that is even nearer the Ukraine border than where they were. In the mean time Russia has moved up even more troops. Really does look like they are getting to the climax, their moving troops right up to Ukraine's border now.
Just for you Trenchy
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Just for you Trenchy
Don’t give him any ideas. :naughty:
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I don't blame countries like Libya that have little choice but to resort to 'terrorism'. They will be massacred militarily, so they do what they have to do to still put up a fight. They lost a lot of people/military prior to this Lockerbie incident, so they probably feel justified in doing SOMETHING to retaliate. Western nations like the US and United Kingdom have been able to create a tough business environment for many nations and have been willing to use our military to enforce it. By taking it to that level, it makes everybody a target.
Fathertime!
Seriously!!!
You’re condoning murder?
What next?
Will you also condone the mowing down of bystanders in Nice using a 19 ton truck by Islamic terrorists or what happened at Bataclan?
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The Ukrainian President has tweeted today;
"I appreciate the support of Great Britain and grateful to Boris Johnson for the unity with Ukraine ! This is very important for us,especially now ! Let's join forces to preserve peace . "
He has also thanked Lithuania in another tweet.
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Unlike the US, Canada entered into treaties with all its First Nations. That's what all the court cases are about - the terms and conditions of those treaties. So, based on the treaties, it is, in fact, compensation that is relevant.
There you go again. I’ve no idea how or why you make these broad statement that is simply shockingly false. You watch Rachel Maddow too much.
There are nearly 400 treaties made between the US government and it’s indigenous Native American tribes. Of which, IIRC, over 20 were broken inside of the year it was reconciled. Since you rely on Google too much, feel free to fact check my statement.
As for Canada, if you’re referring to the enactment/formation of TRC, crimes and racism in Canada still prevalently remains today. I can provide you mountains of proof of that statement if you like. Canada, like the US, is nothing more than a testament of what a horde of European white trash can do when given an opportunity to govern a territory. That is a fact, and a historical legacy of European strain.
To actually feel good claiming any monetary compensation is relevant as some form of reconciliatory tool in exchange for its evil deeds, is even more sinful and evil in itself. Share that reasoning to the survivors of the holocaust.
Canada even have an acronym for one of its genocidal acts, MMIWG. I’m certain you’re very familiar with that.
There’s no greater evil than absolute transgressions against the innocence of children.
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Seriously!!!
You’re condoning murder?
What next?
Will you also condone the mowing down of bystanders in Nice using a 19 ton truck by Islamic terrorists or what happened at Bataclan?
Oh, quit being so dramatic and face reality. Smaller nations with inferior technology may decide to use whatever means necessary to try to keep larger interlopers from trying to push them around. Terrorism is all they have at times.
Nothing much in the world is 'fair'. A Hyena verses a lion. The lion always wins. Pack of hyena verses lion, hyenas may win. Especially since they fight 'dirty' and come from behind to tear off Lion's balls while he is occupied with another of the hyenas.
If YOU are condoning suppression of a nation, then you have to bear the consequences. Why would you expect a smaller nation to just accept their fate without doing everything in their power to fight back. The US kills women/children all the time, but it is deemed a mistake and is largely ignored.
Fathertime!
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Now that the February 16 Russian invasion of Ukraine had come and gone, crickets can be heard along the eastern border, reports US VP Kamala Harris. She laid witness to lines upon endless lines of grandmothers with flowers in their hands as the celebration of the coming spring and togetherness of one nation, one people festival. In between the festivities, multi-tasking US VP Kamala Harris had to excused herself to check if any emails arrived in her computer. One actually did. An email from Maria Zakharova, it said:
Privet durochka Harris,
With your assistance, I will call on all your media outlet to publish a full list of dates on which Russia will invade Ukraine for the year ahead, so Russian diplomats can schedule their vacations accordingly.
Spasiba.
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Just for you Trenchy
That's a good one Jumper, would love to adopt a Ukrainian babe ;D
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What Happens to Us if There Is War?
http://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/16/opinion/russia-ukraine-war.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/16/opinion/russia-ukraine-war.html)
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(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/aria_c18844720220215120100.jpg)
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I've read this before, and before, and before! Looks like the 3am attack yesterday didn't happen.
Fathertime!
It could happen tonight, it could happen any time in the next few days.
I didn't think it was likely to happen last night as that time was out so it took away any element of surprise. That and Putin would probably want to manoeuvre to an excuse for war particularly after he said he didn't want it to the German Chancellor. Theoretically he doesn't necessarily need an excuse, he could just say he's decided to take Ukrainian lands as he believes them Russian territory going back to Katherine the Great. Odds are though he'll probably source out one flimsy excuse.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-russia-ukraine-invasion-joe-26259442.amp
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/thousands-of-russian-troops-within-30-miles-of-ukraine-ready-to-invade-b983021.html
Bisen now thinks a war is inevitable. UK gov sources are now saying war is imminent if not inevitable. Apparently Russia has moved up troops to within 30 miles of Ukraine's border in recent hours. My guess is that they are going to make a dash for Kyiv, missiles aimed at any Ukrainian troops in the way then take up occupying land around Ukraine. They'll likely stay out the cities apart from possibly central Kyiv, cut off the rail & road routes and starve Ukrainians into submission. Ukraine's army in the east will probably be hammered by missiles into oblivion.
I personally think Putin is up for it.
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And why would it be inevitable?
Not one person on either side actually believes the dire *grievances * of either make war an inevitable.
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It could happen tonight, it could happen any time in the next few days.
I didn't think it was likely to happen last night as that time was out so it took away any element of surprise. That and Putin would probably want to manoeuvre to an excuse for war particularly after he said he didn't want it to the German Chancellor. Theoretically he doesn't necessarily need an excuse, he could just say he's decided to take Ukrainian lands as he believes them Russian territory going back to Katherine the Great. Odds are though he'll probably source out one flimsy excuse.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-russia-ukraine-invasion-joe-26259442.amp (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-russia-ukraine-invasion-joe-26259442.amp)
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/thousands-of-russian-troops-within-30-miles-of-ukraine-ready-to-invade-b983021.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/thousands-of-russian-troops-within-30-miles-of-ukraine-ready-to-invade-b983021.html)
Bisen now thinks a war is inevitable. UK gov sources are now saying war is imminent if not inevitable. Apparently Russia has moved up troops to within 30 miles of Ukraine's border in recent hours. My guess is that they are going to make a dash for Kyiv, missiles aimed at any Ukrainian troops in the way then take up occupying land around Ukraine. They'll likely stay out the cities apart from possibly central Kyiv, cut off the rail & road routes and starve Ukrainians into submission. Ukraine's army in the east will probably be hammered by missiles into oblivion.
I personally think Putin is up for it.
Putin might be up for it ...but his military might could soon be in deep trouble if he sends then in. ;D
Around a dozen Russian main battle tanks were filmed stuck in deep mud near the Ukrainian border in the Rostov region on 10th Feb and it took a civilian using an excavator to rescue them. ;D
Potential sitting ducks for those 2000 anti-tank missiles the Brits gave to the Ukrainians :clapping:
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Bisen now thinks a war is inevitable.
I personally think Putin is up for it.
Bisen isn't a warrior and I believe he has ulterior motives.
It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is no iron in his words of death for all Russia to see and so there is iron in his words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Putin carries the same iron of life and death.
(http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/186/Graph/TenBears.jpg)
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And why would it be inevitable?
Not one person on either side actually believes the dire *grievances * of either make war an inevitable.
Because Putin isn't going to go to all the trouble of assembling such a force and put it into invasion position just for the joy of it. There's no sense to that, it's a waste without any gain.
In addition Putin has made out he was withdrawing forces when in fact he was doing the opposite. Why do that as a negotiating tactic? It has no sense to it, it would only breed distrust during any negotiation. It makes perfect sense if trying to cover for more troops to come in. He was found out and has been found out concocting false flag excuses for an invasion. He'll make inroads with something and when he will attack. I don't think he'll really care how flimsy something is as an excuse it could be drawn up on the back of a fag packet. He may not even bother that much with an excuse beyond his demands have not been satisfied and hence to protect Russia he needs to take back Ukraine.
I think most see now that his preparations are within their last few moments of readiness. The next stage is the order for the invasion, that is likely to come any day (or most likely night) now.
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Putin might be up for it ...but his military might could soon be in deep trouble if he sends then in. ;D
Around a dozen Russian main battle tanks were filmed stuck in deep mud near the Ukrainian border in the Rostov region on 10th Feb and it took a civilian using an excavator to rescue them. ;D
Potential sitting ducks for those 2000 anti-tank missiles the Brits gave to the Ukrainians :clapping:
All depends whether the ground has hardened since then by frost, etc.
Ukrainians best chance is probably to take the fight to the Russians, close in quick so they are too close for the Russians to use their missiles. Still the odds I doubt are good, even if they smash most of the Russian force Putin will probably bring in reinforcements. If Ukrainians attack first then they will give Putin the excuse he needs and a valid one at that.
Odds are Ukrainians will just have to endure whatever happens. If they can get a victory as you suggest CB then that would be a good one for Ukraine.
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-crisis-world-leaders-fear-russia-is-creating-an-excuse-to-invade-ukraine-after-rise-in-attacks-across-disputed-donbas-regions-line-of-contact-12544212
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All depends whether the ground has hardened since then by frost, etc.
It hasn't..it's thawing...ripe for a slaughter of Russian tanks and troops stuck in deep mud. :clapping:
As for Russian reinforcements well if he's already lost the 60% of his troops he has on Ukraine's border i'm not sure how wise it would be to send the remaining 40% in..it would leave his military in a right old pickle..
As the BBC news crew were driving back from the Ukrainian border to Kiev today you can see where all the snow is thawing in the fields either side of the road...it'll be a quagmire ;D
Air power would be Russia's big advantage...so let's hope the Ukrainians have learnt how to use those SAM's Lithuania supplied them with well.
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There you go again. I’ve no idea how or why you make these broad statement that is simply shockingly false. You watch Rachel Maddow too much.
There are nearly 400 treaties made between the US government and it’s indigenous Native American tribes. Of which, IIRC, over 20 were broken inside of the year it was reconciled. Since you rely on Google too much, feel free to fact check my statement.
As for Canada, if you’re referring to the enactment/formation of TRC, crimes and racism in Canada still prevalently remains today. I can provide you mountains of proof of that statement if you like. Canada, like the US, is nothing more than a testament of what a horde of European white trash can do when given an opportunity to govern a territory. That is a fact, and a historical legacy of European strain.
To actually feel good claiming any monetary compensation is relevant as some form of reconciliatory tool in exchange for its evil deeds, is even more sinful and evil in itself. Share that reasoning to the survivors of the holocaust.
Canada even have an acronym for one of its genocidal acts, MMIWG. I’m certain you’re very familiar with that.
There’s no greater evil than absolute transgressions against the innocence of children.
Your country didn't enter into treaties with all bands. Canada did, even though some of those treaties remain unfulfilled, and that is a travesty. But that's not the point. The point is, are you willing to fund all of these things? Heck, why not make every person move back to the country of their ancestors, and let every nation sort things out. No mixing of the artificial concept of "race". No mixing even of the artificial concept of "ethnicity".
As for residential schools, yes, overall, they were horrid, as was the reason they were originally established. But schools for non FN were no picnic at that time either. In all, 150,000 children attended residential schools - not a huge number, given the total FN population. I'm not dismissing it, and whether the school was bad or not depended very much on who was operating it. I know FN individuals who don't have negative memories of residential schools. But, most of them were close to "home".
No matter how much you google this, your knowledge will always be at best, superficial. I have sat with elders. I have worked with survivors. I did a significant amount of FN work in the early to mid 2000's. The federal government still pays lip service to reconciliation, but all the real gains, other than treaty negotiations, have been made through court action. Nevertheless, most survivors, and their descendants have stepped past this.
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Your country didn't enter into treaties with all bands. Canada did, even though some of those treaties remain unfulfilled, and that is a travesty. But that's not the point. The point is, are you willing to fund all of these things? Heck, why not make every person move back to the country of their ancestors, and let every nation sort things out. No mixing of the artificial concept of "race". No mixing even of the artificial concept of "ethnicity".
A croc, if not such a pointless statement. You made the allegations the US, unlike Canada, didn't have a treaty with its native Americans.
As for residential schools, yes, overall, they were horrid, as was the reason they were originally established. But schools for non FN were no picnic at that time either. In all, 150,000 children attended residential schools - not a huge number, given the total FN population. I'm not dismissing it, and whether the school was bad or not depended very much on who was operating it. I know FN individuals who don't have negative memories of residential schools. But, most of them were close to "home".
BS! That policy began in the 1930s, ran nearly the rest of the century. Many of the children were kidnapped, taken without notice from their homes. Forced assimilation was the tip of the iceberg many of these kids faced. Being placed in these schools, and everything that happened after was evil. Many are still being recovered from mass graves.
No matter how much you google this, your knowledge will always be at best, superficial. I have sat with elders. I have worked with survivors. I did a significant amount of FN work in the early to mid 2000's. The federal government still pays lip service to reconciliation, but all the real gains, other than treaty negotiations, have been made through court action. Nevertheless, most survivors, and their descendants have stepped past this.
Funny. Steele Dossier / Russiagate and you deny you rely on Google. *Stepped past it* was a very predictable response considering, according to you, they already got paid monies.
::) Imagine that.
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It hasn't..it's thawing...ripe for a slaughter of Russian tanks and troops stuck in deep mud. :clapping:
As for Russian reinforcements well if he's already lost the 60% of his troops he has on Ukraine's border i'm not sure how wise it would be to send the remaining 40% in..it would leave his military in a right old pickle..
As the BBC news crew were driving back from the Ukrainian border to Kiev today you can see where all the snow is thawing in the fields either side of the road...it'll be a quagmire ;D
Air power would be Russia's big advantage...so let's hope the Ukrainians have learnt how to use those SAM's Lithuania supplied them with well.
You seem* with the hand clapping to want a war ,and glee at the thought of Ukrainians killing Russians.
Its odd.
I dont think that's how any of that would go down, *if they choose a full.scale invasion in modern warfare.
The slaughter would be Ukrainian troops.
Sam's are fundamentally useless in the big picture
Russian air superiority is in no way challenged in both taking out communications or key targets for troop support by those Sam's.
You think in any of the major engagement the USA/uk forces have been in the last several.decades the countries dint have equally advanced ground to air systems for defense? How'd that work out?.
The Ukrainian airforce would be grounded or if they choose to fight , shot down within an hour of altercations.
The tanks arnt going to be bothered by the weather. Who is going to stop them.on the roads?
They wont roll in until.they need to clean up and until.its safe*
They arnt used that way unless the air cover is complete.why?, the average lifespan of a tank crew after active combat agaisnt a true full force(air/sea) military?
It's minutes.
Good thing for Putin Ukraine wont have that typical major power abilty.
This seems a day dream.of yours of prepared Ukrainians in guerilla war and competent military with full airforce etc.
It's not reality of a true modern full invasion occurs(which is doubtful)
It's a major nation with a huge advantage in air superiority, naval superiority , and shear military might facing a small border countries forces, and once run over them.a general populace of mixed Russian/Ukrainian.
Most of the cough* Russian lead in troops will be likely be paid Chechnyans , (as it was stirring shit in donbass right?) the mix of families Ukrainian to Russian is too great.
I spoke with my wifes cousin there, he said war? Who will we be fighting?ourselves? Or coworkers from.a couple years back? Or cousins that live in western Russia?
Noone wants that here.
Maybe we would fight chechycen mercenaries, but who knows?
He wasnt the least bit worried about any of it and hadnt heard that much about it.
Granted that might be different in western Ukraine, but it would not matter.
I know I'm absolutely not rooting for war, and I know if there is a full scale one there it will absolutely be Ukrainian blood that will be the majority spilt.
Flippin muddy fields wont change squat about that. This isn't 1940.
Ask those along the northern route out of Kuwait a few decades back , about how this really plays out in modern warfare in anything but a video game.
Its over fundamentally in an hour.5 hrs at a stretch. No ground troops needed (other than occupying force later)
Im.sure you have no military background, and that's fine,but don't wish for conflict on some daydream.of Ukrainian troops slaughtering Russian troops, it's insane to think that would happen.
Again I dint think Russia will invade, if they do ,it might be skirmishes in donbass for effect.
If they choose to actually take ukraine. Then they will.period.
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But, but, but, they did it too..........
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You’re beginning to sound like Moby now.
There is NO justification for murder.
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"Moscow has said it could be "forced" to respond militarily if the US does not agree to its security demands"
Here it looks like our reason for Invasion is coming from Russia, similar to what I was saying they might do last night. Apparently Putin is going to oversee Russia's military exercises on the 19th. Whether that will mean war then or soon after who knows. Olympic closing ceremony is on the 20th. That Putin has carried on with these 'military exercises' through the Olympics when he could have chosen another time without Russia carrying on in the background makes me think even more that he is serious about invasion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60428211
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You seem* with the hand clapping to want a war ,and glee at the thought of Ukrainians killing Russians.
Its odd.
I dont think that's how any of that would go down, *if they choose a full.scale invasion in modern warfare.
The slaughter would be Ukrainian troops.
Sam's are fundamentally useless in the big picture
Russian air superiority is in no way challenged in both taking out communications or key targets for troop support by those Sam's.
You think in any of the major engagement the USA/uk forces have been in the last several.decades the countries dint have equally advanced ground to air systems for defense? How'd that work out?.
The Ukrainian airforce would be grounded or if they choose to fight , shot down within an hour of altercations.
The tanks arnt going to be bothered by the weather. Who is going to stop them.on the roads?
They wont roll in until.they need to clean up and until.its safe*
They arnt used that way unless the air cover is complete.why?, the average lifespan of a tank crew after active combat agaisnt a true full force(air/sea) military?
It's minutes.
Good thing for Putin Ukraine wont have that typical major power abilty.
This seems a day dream.of yours of prepared Ukrainians in guerilla war and competent military with full airforce etc.
It's not reality of a true modern full invasion occurs(which is doubtful)
It's a major nation with a huge advantage in air superiority, naval superiority , and shear military might facing a small border countries forces, and once run over them.a general populace of mixed Russian/Ukrainian.
Most of the cough* Russian lead in troops will be likely be paid Chechnyans , (as it was stirring shit in donbass right?) the mix of families Ukrainian to Russian is too great.
I spoke with my wifes cousin there, he said war? Who will we be fighting?ourselves? Or coworkers from.a couple years back? Or cousins that live in western Russia?
Noone wants that here.
Maybe we would fight chechycen mercenaries, but who knows?
He wasnt the least bit worried about any of it and hadnt heard that much about it.
Granted that might be different in western Ukraine, but it would not matter.
I know I'm absolutely not rooting for war, and I know if there is a full scale one there it will absolutely be Ukrainian blood that will be the majority spilt.
Flippin muddy fields wont change squat about that. This isn't 1940.
Ask those along the northern route out of Kuwait a few decades back , about how this really plays out in modern warfare in anything but a video game.
Its over fundamentally in an hour.5 hrs at a stretch. No ground troops needed (other than occupying force later)
Im.sure you have no military background, and that's fine,but don't wish for conflict on some daydream.of Ukrainian troops slaughtering Russian troops, it's insane to think that would happen.
Again I dint think Russia will invade, if they do ,it might be skirmishes in donbass for effect.
If they choose to actually take ukraine. Then they will.period.
I hope you're correct that Russia won't invade,and you may well be right...we'll see.
However,if they do,i see nothing odd about wanting Ukraine to defeat the invaders.
That would require killing invading Russian military personnel yes ?
Or do you think if the Ukrainians stand there singing songs the Russians will turn round and go home ?
There is a misconception among many people,including you,that Ukraine has no possible chance against the mighty Russia..who couldn't even beat poorly armed fighters wearing sandals after nine years of trying ...somewhat later than 1940. :rolleyes:
"The small border country "Ukraine actually has the largest army in Europe...with 215,000 military personnel and they've been training for this for eight years with training provided by NATO.
As Ukraine has no Navy to speak of and a small Air Force i wonder what the largest Army in Europe has been training for ?
As for the SAM's you deride...well the Ukraine Air Force has lost many fighter-jets and Helicopters over Donbas....so many shot down by SAM's,that the Ukrainian President had to pull them out of the conflict there.
Additionally one third of a population of 40 million volunteered to train in guerilla warfare....that's a lot of people.
These are a people who've had to endure 14.000 people being killed in Donbas over the last eight years because of Russian-backed separatists, and saw Russia take Crimea from them.
A huge seller out there has been toilet paper with a picture of Putin on it.
You think they're going to roll-over to him ?
These are not Iraq troops who had no heart for a fight and just surrendered.
If Russia invades they may well take Ukraine..let's see if they can hold it.
If they don't hold Ukraine that will mean they've been defeated..just like they were in Afghanistan.
By the way i do have a military background..i was in the Fleet Air Arm with F-4's based at RAF Leuchars.
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"Moscow has said it could be "forced" to respond militarily if the US does not agree to its security demands"
Here it looks like our reason for Invasion is coming from Russia, similar to what I was saying they might do last night. Apparently Putin is going to oversee Russia's military exercises on the 19th. Whether that will mean war then or soon after who knows. Olympic closing ceremony is on the 20th. That Putin has carried on with these 'military exercises' through the Olympics when he could have chosen another time without Russia carrying on in the background makes me think even more that he is serious about invasion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60428211 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60428211)
The Russian Ambassador to the EU Vladimir Chizhov said a couple of days ago that the Belarus exercises will end on the 20th February and the Russian military forces in Belarus will return to their bases on, or shortly after, that date.
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It hasn't..it's thawing...ripe for a slaughter of Russian tanks and troops stuck in deep mud. :clapping:
...if russia was actually planning on invading...they would have already done it months ago with the element of surprise on their side. They wouldn't wait until the situation became more difficult. I don't believe Russia can afford to get involved in a military quagmire with little upside. While this non-story continues to create headlines, I wonder what other stories are being largely ignored. Nord Stream 2 seems to be moving along, China's belt and road is relentlessly moving forward.... all the while what great project are we in the US undertaking?
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...if russia was actually planning on invading...they would have already done it months ago with the element of surprise on their side. They wouldn't wait until the situation became more difficult. I don't believe Russia can afford to get involved in a military quagmire with little upside. While this non-story continues to create headlines, I wonder what other stories are being largely ignored. Nord Stream 2 seems to be moving along, China's belt and road is relentlessly moving forward.... all the while what great project are we in the US undertaking?
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I agree with you..there is no logic in waiting until the country you plan to invade has been bringing in more arms to defend itself with.
Putin is many things but he isn't a fool.
The reason Putin took Crimea so easily is because he used the element of surprise.and moved quickly.
Why change what works ?
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I hope you're correct that Russia won't invade,and you may well be right...we'll see.
However,if they do,i see nothing odd about wanting Ukraine to defeat the invaders.
That would require killing invading Russian military personnel yes ?
Or do you think if the Ukrainians stand there singing songs the Russians will turn round and go home ?
There is a misconception among many people,including you,that Ukraine has no possible chance against the mighty Russia..who couldn't even beat poorly armed fighters wearing sandals after nine years of trying ...somewhat later than 1940. :rolleyes:
"The small border country "Ukraine actually has the largest army in Europe...with 215,000 military personnel and they've been training for this for eight years with training provided by NATO.
As Ukraine has no Navy to speak of and a small Air Force i wonder what the largest Army in Europe has been training for ?
As for the SAM's you deride...well the Ukraine Air Force has lost many fighter-jets and Helicopters over Donbas....so many shot down by SAM's,that the Ukrainian President had to pull them out of the conflict there.
Additionally one third of a population of 40 million volunteered to train in guerilla warfare....that's a lot of people.
These are a people who've had to endure 14.000 people being killed in Donbas over the last eight years because of Russian-backed separatists, and saw Russia take Crimea from them.
A huge seller out there has been toilet paper with a picture of Putin on it.
You think they're going to roll-over to him ?
These are not Iraq troops who had no heart for a fight and just surrendered.
If Russia invades they may well take Ukraine..let's see if they can hold it.
If they don't hold Ukraine that will mean they've been defeated..just like they were in Afghanistan.
By the way i do have a military background..i was in the Fleet Air Arm with F-4's based at RAF Leuchars.
Iraqi forces were the.4th largest in the world had actively fought Iran for a decade were better prepared,and far better equipped.
I'm not condoning invasion, I'm not hoping for one, nor am I saying Ukraine hasn't prepared for this.
I am saying oring thaw weather ,muddy fields would not play a huge part ,and I am.saying with no equivalent air force they stand zero chance against a full.scale invasion (if one occured)
Yes Ukrainian air force lost to surface to air in what wasnot an all out war,let that sink in. Has any other major military's air been defeated by Sam's? No. Snd those are not going to stop russias air force from.taking out communications and strategic targets.
Now the aspect of occupying a country long term is completely different , and that is completely dependent on the ,resolve, sufferage, or apathy of the people governed, as has been proven throughout history.
As far as Ukraine its been overrun and held long term by a long list of invaders.
Do I think.if the populace entirely rejected russian governance , they could oust them long term? Certainly.
But I'm not sure that's a realistic view of the population
This is a different scenario ,there are separatist ,it's not entirely unified ,its fundamentally the same people with many families and friends across borders.
There are of course a million factors,but the fact remains the Ukrainian government that the people have accepted over the last decades was always tied to the hip to Russia.This does play into it a lot.
I absolutely feel.ukraine should be
Independent. I have relatives there.
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A loud siren going off in Donetsk today,with a Russian-backed separatist leader telling residents to evacuate and go to Russia via buses.
Another Russian-backed separatist leader has told residents to evacuate Luhansk also.
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A loud siren going off in Donetsk today,with a Russian-backed separatist leader telling residents to evacuate and go to Russia via buses.
Another Russian-backed separatist leader has told residents to evacuate Luhansk also.
Then that sounds like something very big is about to go down CB. Looks like we are definitely on the very brink of invasion of Ukraine to me. Odds are Putin as an ex-KGB guy is taking up the C-in-C for it rather than merely just leading the military training - there is no real need for him to lead the overall training which I any case is just a bs excuse to assemble their invasion force under it seems. Doubt it will be long till we see it all go down in Ukraine by the sounds of it.
Next 24-48 hours or so crucial I would say.
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Bisen isn't a warrior and I believe he has ulterior motives.
Yep. The cohesion of democratic countries. 8)
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...if russia was actually planning on invading...they would have already done it months ago with the element of surprise on their side. They wouldn't wait until the situation became more difficult. I don't believe Russia can afford to get involved in a military quagmire with little upside. While this non-story continues to create headlines, I wonder what other stories are being largely ignored. Nord Stream 2 seems to be moving along, China's belt and road is relentlessly moving forward.... all the while what great project are we in the US undertaking?
Fathertime!
Remember Anzincourt? How a superior army got its ass whipped by lesser forces? Almost same conditions months ago.
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Biden just said he believes Putin has decided to invade Ukraine...and will do so in the next few days.
OSCE says the number of Russian troops surrounding Ukraine is now between 170,000 and 190,000...the biggest build up of troops in Europe since the second World War.
Of course if Russia does invade it will show the World what liars Putin and the Russians are,as they've been saying they're not going to invade Ukraine .
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Biden just said he believes Putin has decided to invade Ukraine...and will do so in the next few days.
OSCE says the number of Russian troops surrounding Ukraine is now between 170,000 and 190,000...the biggest build up of troops in Europe since the second World War.
Of course if Russia does invade it will show the World what liars Putin and the Russians are,as they've been saying they're not going to invade Ukraine .
My count has always been 12 divisions (180000 men) since mid january.
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Remember Anzincourt? How a superior army got its ass whipped by lesser forces? Almost same conditions months ago.
You mean Azincourt in French spelling or Agincourt in English spelling ?
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Haha. Got you to go low by merely challenging you! You like fellow submissive I reckon. Poor guy.
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Pah. There’s no taking the moral high ground when you side with murderers and terrorists, fella.
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You mean Azincourt in French spelling or Agincourt in English spelling ?
lol, yep Azincourt
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Can someone explain to me why Ukraine would launch an offensive against Donetsk and Luhansk now and why they would be firing missiles into Rostov ?
We also have the ludicrous claim that Ukraine planted a car bomb under the Donetsk pro-Russian separatist leaders car,which conveniently exploded while he wasn't in it :rolleyes:
All this while they have 190,000 Russian troops on their border and the Russian Navy off their coastline.
Well you would wouldn't you :rolleyes:
Maybe the poster who says whatever the West says is propaganda can explain the Ukraine reasons for doing this.?
To me it just seems mad Vlad and the pro-Russian separatists are creating false flags around the Donbas region,whilst citing genocide there, to justify the Russian invasion of Ukraine...as i predicted they would.
Of course Russia never comes out with lying propaganda do they ? :cluebat:
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Can someone explain to me why Ukraine would launch an offensive against Donetsk and Luhansk now and why they would be firing missiles into Rostov ?
Of course Russia never comes out with lying propaganda do they ?
Quite simple. Just ask a Russian or Russian lover.
Ukraine is actively attacking Russia on many fronts.
Their reason for doing so is to provoke Russian counterattacks which will bring USA to the Ukrainian rescue.
Doesn't matter that USA has said it will not intervene militarily.
Get up to date here and think with a clear head !!
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Of course Russia never comes out with lying propaganda do they ?
And they never cheat or do anything dishonorable either.
Just ask any of their Summer and Winter Olympic teams.
But they do have a very distinct advantage in that they do not care how anyone thinks about them.
Unlike the crybabies during Donald's time who wailed . . . Oh my, the rest of the world is thinking bad about USA !! :-(
Imagine the audacity of asking the Europeans to pay their agreed upon amounts into NATO. Totally rude and unacceptable. Better to let USA taxpayers take up the slack, so that we will be liked (actually hated less).
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You mean Azincourt in French spelling or Agincourt in English spelling ?
Comme ci, comme ça
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It seems that Zelensky wants answers. I would suspect that NATO isn't really interested in having Ukraine as a part of their commitment.
Zelensky is also demanding that the US say exactly what the sanctions will be for Russia should they invade. I wonder if Zelensky is speaking from his own mouth, or the US has asked him to make the statements.
Zelensky: Ukraine wants 'clear' time frame for NATO membership
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Saturday asked NATO and the European Union (EU) for a firm and "honest" answer on his country's prospects for entry into the alliance at the Munich Security Conference.....
http://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-ukraine-wants-clear-timeframe-162724254.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall (http://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-ukraine-wants-clear-timeframe-162724254.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall)
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Photo Essay: (no big words to gaagle)
http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2022/02/photos-ukraine-soldiers-and-civilians-prepare-possible-invasion/622841/
Link posted to avoid copyright issues and pictures too large for this websites format.
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It seems that Zelensky wants answers. I would suspect that NATO isn't really interested in having Ukraine as a part of their commitment.
Zelensky is also demanding that the US say exactly what the sanctions will be for Russia should they invade. I wonder if Zelensky is speaking from his own mouth, or the US has asked him to make the statements.
Zelensky: Ukraine wants 'clear' time frame for NATO membership
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Saturday asked NATO and the European Union (EU) for a firm and "honest" answer on his country's prospects for entry into the alliance at the Munich Security Conference.....
http://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-ukraine-wants-clear-timeframe-162724254.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall (http://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-ukraine-wants-clear-timeframe-162724254.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall)
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We've given them tank busting equipment that looks like it's really just soil pipes with a fancy end on, lets hope for their sake it's not! The Germans have given them Nazi style helmets to re-enact some great WWII battles with, what more could they possibly want???
Well I think the joining the EU prospect has now gone, a definite non-starter. EU Members won't want an entanglement issue quite so close to their doorstep. The EU doesn't have the money to take them onboard with the UK leaving and then the virus. There's no way the EU is going to take on Ukraine with all its issues. Only possible way would be for the EU to totally rethink it's economic model, basically to just have a free trade zone and stop trying to pass money from here to there, to basically stop requiring countries to be and get up to a certain level of economic development. I think the only reason Zelensky is wanting into the EU is first to get some military protection since a war one is deemed a war on all and secondly to help out the sh*t state Ukraine's economy must now be getting into - think cost of conflict, virus impact and now blockaded ports and no flights.
I personally don't think EU member states will want a member that will embroil them all in war. A definite no go on that one.
NATO well that might be an easier one for Zelensky to aim for but I think he is right in NATO members not wanting a a country that will immediately plunge them into a warm Remembering of course some of these members are in Eastern Europe so they'll be on the forefront of it all being hammered hard quite likely. It would of course bring objection from Russia and god knows how they would react, WWIII maybe?
I think Zelensky is basically losing it now, he's freaking out as war is imminent and he knows it's not looking at all good and is without anyone to really help him out.
It really does look that Russia is starting to manoeuvre in Eastern Ukraine for a reason for war by stating that Ukraine is causing genocide by shelling people's homes so they basically had to step in, of course :-\
It looks like Russia has quickly moved up forces to bring the invasion force to 150,000 to 190,000 or more.
Basically Putin has never acted in a trustworthy way, dissenters being thrown out of windows, poisoned, jailed, executed, Russian athletes doping, intervention in Syria to prop up a vicious tyrant, etc, etc. I don't think Putin's intention fir Ukraine is to walk away, not this time, he's got it in to invade, he doesn't care about the west just what he wants to do so he'll invade for sure and I reckon we are very close to that now. A but more noise about the 'genocide' in the Donbas to sound like there is a significant problem there then he'll go in. Likely within a day or so I reckon, I just get the impression it's really, really close now!
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BBC News - Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60448162
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Ukrainian President Zelensky speaks at Munich Security Conference, February 19, 2022
"Ukraine is longing for peace. Europe is longing for peace. The world is saying it doesn’t want any war, while Russia is claiming she doesn’t want to intervene. Someone here is lying," Zelensky said, before receiving a standing ovation.
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I personally don't think EU member states will want a member that will embroil them all in war. A definite no go on that one.
Kinda late for the Baltic states and Poland.
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I think Zelensky is basically losing it now, he's freaking out as war is imminent and he knows it's not looking at all good and is without anyone to really help him out.
I don't think Putin's intention fir Ukraine is to walk away, not this time, he's got it in to invade, he doesn't care about the west just what he wants to do so he'll invade for sure and I reckon we are very close to that now. A but more noise about the 'genocide' in the Donbas to sound like there is a significant problem there then he'll go in. Likely within a day or so I reckon, I just get the impression it's really, really close now!
Despite what Biden is saying publicly, I think the US would be good with Russia taking a little bite out of Ukraine....just so long as it leads to sanctions and termination of the Nord stream 2. With all the 'imminent' rhetoric coming from the US, my belief is we are trying to bait Putin. When he doesn't invade it will be spun that we stared Russia/Putin down. That would be our false consolation instead of shutting down the pipeline.
Perhaps seeing the phoniness of the US, nations like Brazil are standing with Russia.
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I feel incredibly bad for these Ukrainians. Joe Biden and his party NEED this war very badly. Both for military industry push and for their dying political state. A proxy war this magnitude, especially against the US's longtime boogeyman - Russia - will undoubtedly swing Americans attitude and sentiment this coming midterm election. Nothing like sacrificing Ukrainian blood, as far as the US is concerned, to boost ratings Biden/Harris desperately needs.
The US had now gone from 'we will not intervene and will direly sanction Russian if they attack - to "we will act swiftly and decisively if Russia attacked!". Now why exactly should 'we' be front and center in the silly conflict, is utterly beyond silly to me.
So next time you see a US serviceman, think twice before you thank them, make no mistake about this, they had become nothing more than just fucking paid mercenaries/murderers. They're not 'serving our nation', or 'protection our homeland'. Not thousands of miles from our border. They're being used as sacrificial pawns once again to advance our mindless political agendas.
Another thing I found mystifying in the Munich conference was, why the heck in the midst of all this, is Zelensky asking for 'significant economic assistance' from the US? WHAT-THE-FUCK-IS-THAT-ABOUT? What made the US a chief source of monies for Ukraine? Why the hell is the US automatically at the end of a carrot stick, and in a volatile time like this to boot?
Someone, maybe more than one, is getting played in a major way in this stupidity.
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Thank or dont thank whoever you want.
Not one has asked thanks.
Try to get a grip there, when someone joins any u.s. service, they are signing up to defend our country, or its interests abroad.
They have zero choice once in,so if an administration they joined under changes drastically, it's still their commander and chief .
It doesn't make them simply paid mercenaries just because u. s foreign policy changes or sucks during their stint.
I think the usa makes horrid foreign policy choices..and should concentrate on issues internally
So i know and understand you'll have 486 justifications for that sentiment , , but
Flock right off with that bs.
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As far as why money is brought up in regards to the* usa in Ukraine*, you really already know.
There is a standing pres (past vp) who had his son in a cushy job there with no skills, you had millions missing in various funds siphoned off and passed thru one of the countries best at laundering money.
Russian collusion at its finest.
Ukraine is just another suicide,nothing ties up.old loose ends like a war
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Kinda late for the Baltic states and Poland.
All are NATO countries also and have NATO troops stationed there. Putin won't invade those countries as they have a sitting NATO troop presence already there. The line has been drawn in the sand for those countries at their border. If Putin attacked them it would being in both NATO and the whole if the EU, essentially WWIII. That's a more difficult one for Putin as Britain, France & the US have nuclear weapons and NATO. & the EU much stronger military, so how would that play out for Putin? He doesn't know that even if he wins he wouldn't get nuked and lose, and at which point?
Putin will be familiar with the old Iron Curtain concept so I think he'll see a new Iron Curtain there. I think odds are he'll attack other weak countries like Georgia that are far easier to pick off and retake the Stans one way or another. For him that will be greater Russia back together again. The Eastern Bloc was always kind of an addition and previous to the Soviet Union not a part of Russia so I don't think he'll be too bothered about them.
Think also he'll have his work cut out stationing troops in those newly taken over countries and depending on how he goes about it keeping insurgencies and terrorism down so I don't think he'll have his hands free to worry about the former Eastern Bloc countries by that stage.
Winter Olympics end today so now just the wait and see. The end of the Olympics was thought by one Ukrainian General to be the likely moment, so tonight, tommorow night, who knows. Best scenario for us if they do invade is that any Puppet government that comes forward will have a degree of autonomy and not just be an extension of Russian government/territory. So Ukraine would be a bit like Belarus and with a bit of luck we'll still get the visa free situation.
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Putin will be familiar with the old Iron Curtain concept so I think he'll see a new Iron Curtain there. I think odds are he'll attack other weak countries like Georgia that are far easier to pick off and retake the Stans one way or another. For him that will be greater Russia back together again. The Eastern Bloc was always kind of an addition and previous to the Soviet Union not a part of Russia so I don't think he'll be too bothered about them.
Another morning I wake up to no attack of Ukraine, the Stans, Georgia, etc....despite the US attempted agitation and involvement in a region we don't belong in. I don't really think Russia needs to do any attacking. If they stay their course, they are about to do well for themselves with their new pipeline.
All that said, if they were facing sanctions, loss of pipeline, and financial war...well they may decide their best course is to go big and take all of Ukraine and it's resources. Accept the consequences, align with their friend partners and write off the west. As unjust as it is, the vast majority of Americans don't know/care about Ukraine, for most the nation is merely a pawn or a buzzword (If that) and the people in Ukraine would pay dearly for a little advancement on the chessboard. People here for obvious reasons are far more attached to the situation, and rightfully so.
When nations such as China/Russia start to make business headway in the world, the US is right there to try to thwart them. With China we suddenly 'care' a great deal about ethnic minorities in their country. My belief is this is all coming down the dollars/yuan/rubles. We in the US haven't developed our own industries adequately and may no longer have the capacity to, so sticking sticks in the tires of other nations is our go to move recently. Provoking conflict seems to be our preferred method of advancement....just so long as its other nations young people who are on the front line. Meanwhile our young people are free to 'party', smoke dope, pose on instragram, and be tough guys in the rap culture!
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Whilst i agree with a lot of your post...it's Russia who's doing all the provoking with all their miltary surrounding the Ukraine border.
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I feel incredibly bad for these Ukrainians. Joe Biden and his party NEED this war very badly. Both for military industry push and for their dying political state. A proxy war this magnitude, especially against the US's longtime boogeyman - Russia - will undoubtedly swing Americans attitude and sentiment this coming midterm election. Nothing like sacrificing Ukrainian blood, as far as the US is concerned, to boost ratings Biden/Harris desperately needs.
The US had now gone from 'we will not intervene and will direly sanction Russian if they attack - to "we will act swiftly and decisively if Russia attacked!". Now why exactly should 'we' be front and center in the silly conflict, is utterly beyond silly to me.
So next time you see a US serviceman, think twice before you thank them, make no mistake about this, they had become nothing more than just fucking paid mercenaries/murderers. They're not 'serving our nation', or 'protection our homeland'. Not thousands of miles from our border. They're being used as sacrificial pawns once again to advance our mindless political agendas.
Another thing I found mystifying in the Munich conference was, why the heck in the midst of all this, is Zelensky asking for 'significant economic assistance' from the US? WHAT-THE-FUCK-IS-THAT-ABOUT? What made the US a chief source of monies for Ukraine? Why the hell is the US automatically at the end of a carrot stick, and in a volatile time like this to boot?
Someone, maybe more than one, is getting played in a major way in this stupidity.
As someone that spent over 20 years proudly serving the United States Navy, I find your comments particularly ignorant and insulting. I despise Sleepy Joe, but take great offense at you!!
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As someone that spent over 20 years proudly serving the United States Navy, I find your comments particularly ignorant and insulting. I despise Sleepy Joe, but take great offense at you!!
Ignorant?!? Remember arming the KLA, a group we classified as terrorists, so they could attack the Serbs, and when fighting breaks out, WE bombed Serbia’s civilians. For what? Break out Yugoslavia so NATO can advance. Who the heck do you think is aiding Saudi and Al Qaeda in Yemen? Al Qaeda ferchrissakes! Same phucking group behind 911. You know which group is also the recipients of US/ western arms being imported to Ukraine? The Azov militants. Freaking neo-nazi group.
Biden is but a small part of the recent US murderous global excursion. You think my statement is offensive, have you ever considered what Libyans, Iraqis, afghans, Serbians et al think? Or such realities doesn’t bother your sensibilities much?
http://youtu.be/zSbFSMMI1UI
Yet, here we are again, front and center in stoking another unnecessary military engagement in matters that have absolutely no threat to us, yet making it all about us once more. At the expense of whose lives all over again?
You served for 20 years and you actually believe our global military excursions post WWII have all been for merit and honor?
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It's On!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10532793/Secretary-State-Blinken-DoD-Chief-Austin-say-threat-Russian-invasion-deadly-serious.html
Apparently Putin has given the order to Invade now!
Russian troops have now received the order and are apparently finalising their first ground manoeuvres into Ukraine. Sounds like it will be any moment now, a matter of hours perhaps and they will cross they'll attack.
As far as I see it, it will be missile and air attacks first, knock out the small Ukrainian airforce and gain air superiority right away. Also target what they can off Ukrainian troops and installations on the ground including power stations.
The Winter Olympic closing ceremony has taken place now so it's only a matter of time it looks before Russian forces engage. My guess is that the Russian Generals will have a time agreed to begin the attack from all sides at once.
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"If Russia decides to invade, that would also have consequences here at home. But the American people understand that defending democracy and liberty is never without cost. "I will not pretend this will be painless."
The consequential reality here at home is, this idiot have no clue how to reverse the effects of nearly 8% inflation, record breaking crime, his dying political platform, numerous lawsuits being filed on student debts, etc.
Ukraine is a sacrificial token to serve his idiotic purposes. Who the fuck voted for this idiot!
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It's On!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10532793/Secretary-State-Blinken-DoD-Chief-Austin-say-threat-Russian-invasion-deadly-serious.html
Apparently Putin has given the order to Invade now!
Russian troops have now received the order and are apparently finalising their first ground manoeuvres into Ukraine. Sounds like it will be any moment now, a matter of hours perhaps and they will cross they'll attack.
As far as I see it, it will be missile and air attacks first, knock out the small Ukrainian airforce and gain air superiority right away. Also target what they can off Ukrainian troops and installations on the ground including power stations.
The Winter Olympic closing ceremony has taken place now so it's only a matter of time it looks before Russian forces engage. My guess is that the Russian Generals will have a time agreed to begin the attack from all sides at once.
So says General Trench, the basement warrior.
From the Daily Mail so it must be true.
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Ted Cruz what a political hack, war lover, and idiot. I don't at all mind him calling out Bisen, but at least make some sense in making the argument.
How does his logic make sense here? If Putin had taken Ukraine it would also be in possession of the pipelines and would not have needed nordstream 2. , Russia probably would have made the pipelines a high priority so even if Ukraine destroyed some of it, they could have rebuilt pretty quick if they wanted to. Numbnut cruz also fails to mention that Russian gas won't be bought in Europe regardless of which pipeline were used if he were to invade Ukraine. Russia belt Nordsteam 2 to avoid the 2 billion in transit fees paid to Ukraine. They probably also don't want the US/Ukraine to hold their gas hostage during unrelated negotiations. I can't blame them for wanting to have complete control over their natural resources.
Cruz: Europe on 'verge of war' due to 'fecklessness of Joe Biden'
"The reason he's building the pipeline is that it skips Ukraine. It goes right around Ukraine. Why? Because the real insurance that Ukraine had against invasion is that Putin has to take his energy as natural gas in pipelines that go through Ukraine. Once he builds Nord Stream 2, he no longer has to worry about those pipelines," Cruz said
http://www.yahoo.com/news/cruz-europe-apos-verge-war-180718873.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/cruz-europe-apos-verge-war-180718873.html)
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Ted Cruz what a political hack, war lover, and idiot. I don't at all mind him calling out Bisen, but at least make some sense in making the argument.
How does his logic make sense here? If Putin had taken Ukraine it would also be in possession of the pipelines and would not have needed nordstream 2. , Russia probably would have made the pipelines a high priority so even if Ukraine destroyed some of it, they could have rebuilt pretty quick if they wanted to. Numbnut cruz also fails to mention that Russian gas won't be bought in Europe regardless of which pipeline were used if he were to invade Ukraine. Russia belt Nordsteam 2 to avoid the 2 billion in transit fees paid to Ukraine. They probably also don't want the US/Ukraine to hold their gas hostage during unrelated negotiations. I can't blame them for wanting to have complete control over their natural resources.
Cruz: Europe on 'verge of war' due to 'fecklessness of Joe Biden'
"The reason he's building the pipeline is that it skips Ukraine. It goes right around Ukraine. Why? Because the real insurance that Ukraine had against invasion is that Putin has to take his energy as natural gas in pipelines that go through Ukraine. Once he builds Nord Stream 2, he no longer has to worry about those pipelines," Cruz said
http://www.yahoo.com/news/cruz-europe-apos-verge-war-180718873.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/cruz-europe-apos-verge-war-180718873.html)
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Didn't you know that forcing Russia to ship its gas through Ukraine Hunter will get richer. Not to mention Kamala and Pelosi who have investments in what's-its-name gas company owned by Hunter.
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HAHA @Muzh.
Ukrainians were siphoning a lot of Russian gas from the pipeline. Kravchuk and Tymoshenko both became billionaires by stealing Russian gas. That's the reason Russia decided to bypass Ukraine.
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Kravchuk and Tymoshenko both became billionaires by stealing Russian gas.
I thought they only took enough to heat their homes.
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Interesting thread in the history of the Donbas.
http://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1495200579919958021.html
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It's On!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10532793/Secretary-State-Blinken-DoD-Chief-Austin-say-threat-Russian-invasion-deadly-serious.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10532793/Secretary-State-Blinken-DoD-Chief-Austin-say-threat-Russian-invasion-deadly-serious.html)
Apparently Putin has given the order to Invade now!
Russian troops have now received the order and are apparently finalising their first ground manoeuvres into Ukraine. Sounds like it will be any moment now, a matter of hours perhaps and they will cross they'll attack.
As far as I see it, it will be missile and air attacks first, knock out the small Ukrainian airforce and gain air superiority right away. Also target what they can off Ukrainian troops and installations on the ground including power stations.
The Winter Olympic closing ceremony has taken place now so it's only a matter of time it looks before Russian forces engage. My guess is that the Russian Generals will have a time agreed to begin the attack from all sides at once.
Well it was with some trepidation i turned on the news this morning,expecting to see Ukraine in flames after General Trench's pronouncement with seeming relish that the invasion is on !!
Nope..no invasion..no Ukraine in flames....just seems Trench's hysteria took over again. :rolleyes:
The reality is that after a two hour phone call between Putin and Macron yesterday,they both agree that more dialogue over Ukraine is needed.
Of course the Russian-backed separatists in Donbas no doubt have other plans ,as it's clear what their agenda is by their recent dubious claims and actions.
Hopefully Putin won't get sucked in by them.
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Saw that some of the folks that are being 'evaucated', aren't pleased by being sent to places far from home.
They are telling folks to stay instead.
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No young men were evacuated anyway..they've been ordered by the Russian-backed separatists to stay and fight the fantasy incoming Ukraine attack in Donbas...while their young women have been sent over a 1000 km away to near Moscow.
A cynical person might say it's a convenient way to inject some more young and fertile women into an ageing Russian population...with their blokes stuck a 1000 km away.
The BBC filmed loads of young women,some with children, being piled into Buses...with some saying that with them being taken so far away it isn't looking short-term.
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No young men were evacuated anyway..they've been ordered by the Russian-backed separatists to stay and fight the fantasy incoming Ukraine attack in Donbas...while their young women have been sent over a 1000 km away to near Moscow.
A cynical person might say it's a convenient way to inject some more young and fertile women into an ageing Russian population...with their blokes stuck a 1000 km away.
The BBC filmed loads of young women,some with children, being piled into Buses...with some saying that with them being taken so far away it isn't looking short-term.
I need to go where near Moscow??? :P
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No young men were evacuated anyway..they've been ordered by the Russian-backed separatists to stay and fight the fantasy incoming Ukraine attack in Donbas...while their young women have been sent over a 1000 km away to near Moscow.
A cynical person might say it's a convenient way to inject some more young and fertile women into an ageing Russian population...with their blokes stuck a 1000 km away.
The BBC filmed loads of young women,some with children, being piled into Buses...with some saying that with them being taken so far away it isn't looking short-term.
My wife is from Lugansk. Currently all private vehicles are being siezed. All men 18-64 are being rounded up and forcibly conscripted. All the marstruka's have been siezed and are being used in the consription process. The only men not being conscripted are medical professionals, they have been given a special document to show in case they are being forcibly conscripted. This information is from my wife's family. Her daughter's father is a doctor(surgeon) and has told my wifes daughter about the document. They are telling all the women and children to evacuate to Russia, but to where no one really knows. Some are evacuating, but most are not willing to go without their husbands and fathers. My wife says, how is a woman with small children going to survive away from home without their husband to provide and protect them.
This has my wife and her family stressed to the max. All the delivery of goods will soon come to a standstill due to the conscriptions. They are currently going to the market daily to buy needed goods as they expect it to run out of supplies soon.
They are having intermittent internet and electrical outages for the last few days. Natural gas line fires have been shown on the local tv to prove that the Ukrainians are coming, the Ukrainians are coming.
The amount of propaganda is just insane at the moment.
I am fortunate in that my wife returned last week before all this craziness kicked off. I have no idea what I would do if she was stuck there now.
The wife is feeling guilty that she is safe and her family is dealing with all the insanity.
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My wife is from Lugansk. Currently all private vehicles are being siezed. All men 18-64 are being rounded up and forcibly conscripted. All the marstruka's have been siezed and are being used in the consription process. The only men not being conscripted are medical professionals, they have been given a special document to show in case they are being forcibly conscripted. This information is from my wife's family. Her daughters father is a doctor(surgeon) and has told my wifes daughter about the document. They are telling all the women and children to evacuate to Russia, but to where no one really knows. Some are evacuating but most are not willing to go without their husbands and fathers. My wife says how is a woman with small children going to survive away from home without their husband to provide and protect them.
This has my wife and her family stressed to the max. All the delivery of goods will soon come to a standstill due to the conscriptions. They are currently going to the market daily to buy needed goods as they expect it to run out of supplies soon.
They are having intermittent internet and electrical outages for the last few days. Natural gas line fires have been shown on the local tv to prove that the Ukrainians are coming, the Ukrainians are coming.
The amount of propaganda is just insane at the moment.
I am fortunate in that my wife returned last week before all this craziness kicked off. I have no idea what I would do if she was stuck there now.
The wife is feeling guilty that she is safe and her family is dealing with all the insanity.
WOW this is a very informative first hand account.
Thanks for posting.
I had heard that the forced bussing was only for TV consumption and that the people were actually taken back into their home towns later.
They also put some children from orphanages on busses for TV, but later took them back.
Any info on these specific items from your wife's family?
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WOW this is a very informative first hand account.
Thanks for posting.
I had heard that the forced bussing was only for TV consumption and that the people were actually taken back into their home towns later.
They also put some children from orphanages on busses for TV, but later took them back.
Any info on these specific items from your wife's family?
I talked to the wife. She says the pictures are real, the women are panicing and are leaving Lugansk with their children. She is not sure about the orphanages.
She is watching the RU news and political shows, and currently Putin is deciding if they will move into the Donbass area "For the protection of Russian people". One thing to remember, shortly after the 2014 hostilities, Putin offered Russian passports to those who lived in the Donbass area, so that would allow him to say they are Russian. Supposedly a decision will be made by tomorrow evening.
Guess we will see what happens. Never thought I would have to watch something like this, and have to worry about family members being in the crosshairs.
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Zelensky, paraphrased, to the US:
~"...If you know exactly, with your intelligence that you keep announcing, that Russia is definitely invading Ukraine in a specific day, why do you not sanction Russia now? What are you waiting for? It doesn't do Ukraine any good for you to sanction Russia AFTER they invade Ukraine!..."~
Dunno, IMHO, the dude has a point! Good luck making any sense with the US liberals' president, My Zelensky. Maybe call him anytime after 4 PM when he wakes up from his daily naps.
Kamala Harris (pp), "...if Russia invades Ukraine, Americans must be prepared that the price of gas will go up!..." WOW! Thank good ness for that warning, your excellency! You mean more than the 150% increase it is already at since you and napping Joe took over?
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I talked to the wife. She says the pictures are real, the women are panicing and are leaving Lugansk with their children. She is not sure about the orphanages.
She is watching the RU news and political shows, and currently Putin is deciding if they will move into the Donbass area "For the protection of Russian people". One thing to remember, shortly after the 2014 hostilities, Putin offered Russian passports to those who lived in the Donbass area, so that would allow him to say they are Russian. Supposedly a decision will be made by tomorrow evening.
Guess we will see what happens. Never thought I would have to watch something like this, and have to worry about family members being in the crosshairs.
Yep and here is Putin's excuse to invade Ukraine. First move into Donbass to have 'save' the now Russian people there against the aggression and genocide of Ukraine. From there he will probably pound the living cr*p out of the bulk of the Ukrainian Army that is in Eastern Ukraine through missile attacks and God knows what. That will leave the rest of Ukraine, Kyiv etc vulnerable IF he chooses to invade the rest of Ukraine. There may be a chance that he doesn't. The rest of the encirclement might just be there to stop Ukraine counter attacking into Russian territory, keep the pressure on and have the option to invade if they decide to. Once the Ukrainian Army is smashed in the East good and proper there will be little left to defend Ukraine with, that will likely become apparent to those in the Ukrainian establishment and they will likely sue for peace. The Russian puppets will come forward and be chosen and Russia will have what it wants. That's a possible scenario I think, that or Russia will wind up the Donbass excuse to totally invade Ukraine.
That the Donbass separatists are see fit to conscript nearly all the men, possibly at gun point and their family possibly held as ransom well I don't think they would be doing that if Russia was not about to invade. All about getting the situation there wound up enough to give the Russians an excuse to move in. What are the odds these men will be used as cannon fodder in a new onslaught on the Ukrainian front lines to demonstrate heightened tensions necessary for Russian involvement.
Terrible times.
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The women and children being used as hostages to make the men in the Donbas region fight with Ukraine is something i hadn't considered and is a good point....and yes for sure those men will be stuck in the front-line as cannon fodder if so.
Putin is making an announcement to the Russian people on state TV tonight.
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The women and children being used as hostages to make the men in the Donbas region fight against Ukraine is something i hadn't considered and is a good point....and yes for sure those men will be stuck in the front-line as cannon fodder if so.
Putin is making an announcement to the Russian people on state TV tonight.
It's probably this:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-crisis-vladimir-putin-set-to-decide-whether-to-recognise-separatist-regions-in-ukraine-as-independent-12548002
All starting to play out now. He'll recognise them as independent state/country. They'll ask him to protect them again Ukrainian aggression. He'll move in and pound the hell out of the Ukrainian Army, etc, etc...
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Putin has recognized the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk regions
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Putin has just ordered peacekeeping moves in Eastern Ukraine.
Looks like the invasion of Ukraine is starting. :(
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Putin has just ordered peacekeeping moves in Eastern Ukraine.
Looks like the invasion of Ukraine is starting. :(
That's it then, the invasion has begun!
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-live-updates-satellite-images-show-new-russia-deployments-as-biden-and-putin-summit-mooted-12541713
Looks like General Trench here wasn't too far off with my prediction of Invasion just hours away yesterday ;D
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I don't see Ukraine in flames as you predicted...with missiles being launched to obliterate the Ukraine army.
No pounding of Kiev occurring or Naval bombardment or air strikes.
I've seen a video purporting to be Russian troops arriving in Eastern Ukraine in....Buses.
It's actually working out as i predicted with Putin using a pretext to send troops into Eastern Ukraine
I bet they're not happy all the local hotties have been sent elsewhere :)
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I don't see Ukraine in flames as you predicted...with missiles being launched to obliterate the Ukraine army.
No pounding of Kiev occurring or Naval bombardment or air strikes.
I've seen a video purporting to be Russian troops arriving in Eastern Ukraine in....Buses.
It's actually working out as i predicted with Putin using a pretext to send troops into Eastern Ukraine
I bet they're not happy all the local hotties have been sent elsewhere :)
Not yet but this is the start of Russia's invasion. Just wait until the Russian cruise missiles start flying at Ukraine's army in the East the pretext probably being to quell the Ukrainian aggression or something like that. After that probably some more bs by Russia to move into Ukraine, onto Kiev.
I don't think I ever discounted the Donbass as a false flag event. I believe I even accepted that, that was one plausible scenario too. Though you'd pointedly make the case and it seems that you were right in doing so CB.
I'm not surprised Russia is already moving in troops, Putin seems in a hurry now to get underway on all of this and get what he wants.
Now just a matter of waiting for the next piece of bs from Putin as to why he needs to hammer Ukraine's army. I wonder how long we will have to wait for that one?
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Apparently sanctions are to be announced later today against Russia by the UK, probably the US & EU also:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60472639.amp
Could possibly see visas to Russia go or that might be left until a full invasion of Ukraine occurs.
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The Ukrainian President has just said that Ukraine isn't giving anything away,despite Putins statement , and that Putin can basically do one
I found out yesterday that Ukraine received Drones from Turkey that are basically Russian Tank busters with an excellent track record against them.
Boris said this evening we're looking to send more weapons to Ukraine.
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American intelligence has just announced that Putin’s first objective with his “peace keeping” mission to the Donbass, is to supply new smart phones, web cams and improve internet access to all attractive women..... Single mothers will be given industrial strength protective phone cases to combat the spike in clumsy and careless children breaking their mammas camera...... Owning a phone without Skype or Whatsapp installed will now be a criminal offence 😜
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General Trenchcoat!
Looks like some of what you said may become reality. I don't see a real shooting war just yet though. I don't envision Russia allowing itself to get involved in such a quagmire. I could see the two regions of Donetsk and Luhansk becoming independent though. If Ukraine tries to resist that from happening, I can see Russia throwing everything at them with overwhelming force.
Let's see what Bisen and Company can do at their little summit. By Putin being so aggressive it would seem that now everybody has something to lose, verses it being only a lose situation for Russia. Perhaps Putin's thinking is, Ukraine can attempt to join the EU or NATO but they are going to lose some of their country in making this attempt.
I do wonder how the constant use of sanctions and threats against the Russian Nordstream 2 has played into Russia's thinking. Since the US has been so miserable with China they now become close with Russia, which they may feel gives them additional latitude to take more aggressive steps. I see the US winning big. The conflict could provide the wedge preventing Russia from providing gas to Europe. The US would be delighted to 'help' out there!
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The Ukrainian President has just said that Ukraine isn't giving anything away,despite Putins statement , and that Putin can basically do one
I found out yesterday that Ukraine received Drones from Turkey that are basically Russian Tank busters with an excellent track record against them.
Boris said this evening we're looking to send more weapons to Ukraine.
I think unless they get some real heavy intercept missile capability to stop Russia's cruise missiles, etc then a lit of that stuff won't be making a difference in the right area and Ukraine's forces will be way too vulnerable as a result.
That's no doubt sone serious hardware that they need to do that. Possibly the UK etc could do a kind of Lend-Lease program like the US did with the UK during WWII. It really needs some big SAM installations or mobile SAM intercept missile gear to take out those missiles and likely a lot of them. Without that the Russians will just rain missiles down upon Ukraine's army and finish them off within minutes as I see it.
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The invasion has been confirmed by Reuters.
Russian Tanks and Armoured Personnel Carriers have been seen entering the outskirts of Donetsk.
The Ukraine Ambassador to the UK, when asked what additional military help is needed in Ukraine, said they have enough anti-Tank weaponry to deal with Russia's Tanks,but weaponry to deal with Russia's air and naval superiority is needed.
Those on here who said Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine were clearly VERY wrong.
Putin and every Russian politician and diplomat asked about a potential invasion of Ukraine "We will not be invading Ukraine "
Russia then invades Ukraine.
What an untrustworthy nation Russia is.
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The invasion has been confirmed by Reuters.
Russian Tanks and Armoured Personnel Carriers have been seen entering the outskirts of Donetsk.
The Ukraine Ambassador to the UK, when asked what additional military help is needed in Ukraine, said they have enough anti-Tank weaponry to deal with Russia's Tanks,but weaponry to deal with Russia's air and naval superiority is needed.
Those on here who said Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine were clearly VERY wrong.
Putin and every Russian politician and diplomat asked about a potential invasion of Ukraine "We will not be invading Ukraine "
Russia then invades Ukraine.
What an untrustworthy nation Russia is.
I wouldn’t call it an invasion yet.
They’ve just formalized their occupation of the illegal breakaway territories which they were doing covertly since 2014.
If they now move to expand their occupation to the whole of Donbas then I would call it an invasion.
But untrustworthy? Most definitely, Putin most certainly has a few screws lose.
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The invasion has been confirmed by Reuters.
Russian Tanks and Armoured Personnel Carriers have been seen entering the outskirts of Donetsk.
The Ukraine Ambassador to the UK, when asked what additional military help is needed in Ukraine, said they have enough anti-Tank weaponry to deal with Russia's Tanks,but weaponry to deal with Russia's air and naval superiority is needed.
Those on here who said Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine were clearly VERY wrong.
Putin and every Russian politician and diplomat asked about a potential invasion of Ukraine "We will not be invading Ukraine "
Russia then invades Ukraine.
What an untrustworthy nation Russia is.
Yep there is definitely egg that some posters will be wiping off face on here today :D
I wonder if Ukraine will now start calling up more conscripts now that the separatists have done so in Donbas & Luhansk. Some men Ukraine apparently already conscripts in but recently women have been asked to sign a conscript register for 'possible' conscription:
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/12/27/ukraine-requires-women-register-military-conscription-russia-threat-looms.html/amp
As usual there are the get outs of being a student and for women being pregnant, children. I kind of wonder if it comes down to it how many would be called up or whether it's just a stunt to appease men and in reality none to few will be called up. In the west so called 'gender equality' and then bullsh*t is what we are used to. Ukraine is apparently more patriarchal so I am surprised they are even touting female conscription around.
I'm going to take a guess on this one that what are the chances that very few females will be conscripted and those that are will just get light sentry duty in unimportant military warehouses, barrack locations, work in admin, etc and the very few that want to be on the front line is only by their choosing and will probably be lesbians wanting to make a name for themselves. My guess is that this female conscription lark is all a big ruse to assure Ukrainian men that Ukrainian women are being drafted with them when really it's all just for show.
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Germany has announced they're now halting certification of Nord-stream 2,without which gas cannot flow through the pipeline.
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The invasion has been confirmed by Reuters.
The article was written in easy-to-read English.
http://www.reuters.com/world/us-casts-doubt-biden-summit-with-putin-eyes-new-sanctions-tuesday-official-2022-02-21/
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The biggest difference now is that they can put 12 Russian divisions if they want while before only put undercover military people plus special forces plus milicy.
The difference is huge, especially if you add the air, ECM, missiles, cyber attacks, and all the artillery stuff.
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The article was written in easy-to-read English.
http://www.reuters.com/world/us-casts-doubt-biden-summit-with-putin-eyes-new-sanctions-tuesday-official-2022-02-21/ (http://www.reuters.com/world/us-casts-doubt-biden-summit-with-putin-eyes-new-sanctions-tuesday-official-2022-02-21/)
No surprise that Biden is bottling it.
All political parties in the UK have agreed it's a Russian invasion of Ukraine in Parliament today....and it's triggered fresh sanctions from the UK
I wonder what Bidens's response would be if Mexico illegally annexed Texas, on behalf of the Mexican speakers there, and sent troops and Tanks in to hold it ?
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I wonder what Bidens's response would be if Mexico illegally annexed Texas, on behalf of the Mexican speakers there, and sent troops and Tanks in to hold it ?
Heck we probably have more spanish speaker than Mexico now. We would be the ones sending the tanks over mexico's border to protect our spanish speakers.
Fathertime!
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The article was written in easy-to-read English.
http://www.reuters.com/world/us-casts-doubt-biden-summit-with-putin-eyes-new-sanctions-tuesday-official-2022-02-21/ (http://www.reuters.com/world/us-casts-doubt-biden-summit-with-putin-eyes-new-sanctions-tuesday-official-2022-02-21/)
The White House is now calling it "an invasion " after the UK announced it's sanctions against Russia.
The UK leads..others follow :)
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I wouldn’t call it an invasion yet.
They’ve just formalized their occupation of the illegal breakaway territories which they were doing covertly since 2014.
If they now move to expand their occupation to the whole of Donbas then I would call it an invasion.
But untrustworthy? Most definitely, Putin most certainly has a few screws lose.
A country illegally annexing parts of another country,then sending in troops and Tanks to hold it is an invasion.
Since my post the UK and now the USA are also calling it an invasion.
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Heck we probably have more spanish speaker than Mexico now. We would be the ones sending the tanks over mexico's border to protect our spanish speakers.
Fathertime!
Well, for what its worth, you always must consider the source. Mexico, even under the best case scenario, have no military capabilities to be a threat to California, much less the US.
Now, just as during the Cuban Missile crisis, if Russia ever tries to sign an anti-USA military pact with Mexico - I guarantee you there will be no 'amassing hundreds of thousands of troops' along our southern border. The response will undoubtedly be absolute.
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Daily OSCE monitoring reports along the hot zone.
http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/reports (http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/reports)
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NATO has just called it a "further invasion " of Ukraine by Russia.
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Putin has just asked the Russian assembly for permission to "use force abroad ".
But but it's all western propaganda/warmongering according to GQBlues....whilst NEVER questioning Putin's motives/actions. :rolleyes:
Yet i only see RUSSIAN Tanks and troops invading Ukraine.
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I wonder what Bidens's response would be if Mexico illegally annexed Texas... and sent troops and Tanks in to hold it ?
Wasn't that his campaign promise? They did send troops of niñitos.
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A country illegally annexing parts of another country,then sending in troops and Tanks to hold it is an invasion.
Still hasn't really been announced as "annexed"... Calls it a peacekeeping force for a separatist state.
Putin is very clever...can't say the same for the outfit we have.
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The White House is now calling it "an invasion " after the UK announced it's sanctions against Russia.
The UK leads..others follow :)
Shows clearly since Brexit that we have been storming ahead of the EU on Foreign Policy among many other areas and the EU can but follow on slowly following in our wake.
It's all happening on the EU's border but they seem to have little direction on the matter. Yet the UK which is further away and no longer a part of the EU is as you rightly say CB is leading on the Ukraine issue and has been for many weeks now including giving Ukraine NLAW's and military expertise.
Glad we have our own governing and direction back :)
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Shows clearly since Brexit that we have been storming ahead of the EU on Foreign Policy among many other areas and the EU can but follow on slowly following in our wake.
It's all happening on the EU's border but they seem to have little direction on the matter. Yet the UK which is further away and no longer a part of the EU is as you rightly say CB is leading on the Ukraine issue and has been for many weeks now including giving Ukraine NLAW's and military expertise.
Glad we have our own governing and direction back :)
All I’ll say is that I’m glad we haven’t got you giving anybody your ‘expertise’.
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
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Now, just as during the Cuban Missile crisis, if Russia ever tries to sign an anti-USA military pact with Mexico - I guarantee you there will be no 'amassing hundreds of thousands of troops' along our southern border. The response will undoubtedly be absolute.
Our little monroe doctrine has pretty much held up for a long time. There could come a point where people or nations start disrespecting it because we (The US) don't really have the right to dictate these sorts of things to other countries in our hemisphere.
Fathertime!
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Our little monroe doctrine has pretty much held up for a long time. There could come a point where people or nations start disrespecting it because we (The US) don't really have the right to dictate these sorts of things to other countries in our hemisphere.
Fathertime!
...and if we keep doing what we're doing, we'll be giving China, if not Russia, good reason to ignore the doctrine.
Back in 2015, Obama, the Euro-Stooge of all people, warned against our further involvement in eastern Europe in the wake of the explosive event that followed the illegal coup of 2014. Let the Ukrainian affairs be solely a European affair. It is evident to all of us now, excursions in Ukraine does not serve our country well.
Ukraine is a core Russian interest but not an American one, so Russia will always be able to maintain escalatory dominance there….The fact is that Ukraine, which is a non-Nato country, is going to be vulnerable to military domination by Russia no matter what we do...Ukraine isn’t a NATO country; they’re never going to be a NATO country–and yet we are treating Ukraine not only as if they are a NATO country, but as if we actually have the capability of protecting them from Russia…..This is an example of where we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for....[/size]Ukraine is a core Russian interest but not an American one, so Russia will always be able to maintain escalatory dominance there….
[/size]Let the Europeans, for a change that's been long overdue, handle European affair themselves, and without our involvement anymore.
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Let the Europeans, for a change that's been long overdue, handle European affair themselves, and without our involvement anymore.
Last time we tried that we ended with WWII. Remember "Peace in our times?"
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Last time we tried that we ended with with WWII. Remember "Peace in our times?"
A mere case of damn if you do, and damn if you don't.
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A mere case of damn if you do, and damn if you don't.
Funny you mentioned that. Thomas Friedman wrote today a nice piece along the same lines. Sorta.
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Funny you mentioned that. Thomas Friedman wrote today a nice piece along the same lines. Sorta.
That's my take. We have more than enough problems here at home to be involved in everyone else's halfway around the globe. I feel bad for Ukraine, but certain even 'they' should know where their welfare lie at this time, and the best way forward.
Now, if there is somebody in this town that would claim that we would consider going to war with Russia over Crimea and eastern Ukraine, they should speak up and be very clear about it. The idea that talking tough or engaging in some military action that is tangential to that particular area is somehow going to influence the decision making of Russia or China is contrary to all the evidence we have seen over the last 50 years...
[/size]Pretty effective words, IMO. Too bad he's been pretty darn silent right now. Why?
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Putin/Russian Parliament authorizes use of force abroad:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-crisis-putin-asks-legislators-for-permission-to-use-armed-forces-outside-russia-12548832
Russia removed it's diplomatic staff from Ukraine, surprised they hadn't already.
NATO believe a full scale attack of Ukraine is on the cards.
All coming into play now by the looks of it.
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Putin says he doesn't intend to abide by Minsk Agreement:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-ukraine-war-putin-live-26295655
UK says all UK citizens should now leave Ukraine, obviously the now seemingly inevitable is now expected.
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Putin has apparently said that his intervention 'peacekeeping' covers the whole of the Donbas & Luhansk region (not just the city & separatist areas themselves). So here we may have it, Putin ready to go in & lay claim to the whole of these regions and thereby attacking the Ukrainian army there that stands in his way.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10537897/Ukraine-crisis-Invasion-begun-Sajid-Javid-declares.html
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Joe Biden... imposing sanctions on the two largest Russian banks that already had sanctions placed on them after the Russian incursion in Crimea :rolleyes: I wish that he was as enthusiastic in taking care of his own country's business.
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State of emergency now declared in Ukraine..except for the Donetsk and Luhansk regions...with people now having the right to bear arms.
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Indeed CB, Australian PM reckons full out Invasion of the whole of Ukraine will happen within 24 hours:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-news-war-putin-invasion-b2021232.html
Ukraine has declared a state of emergency with a full out Invasion thought imminent. My guess is that both sides have now had time to remove Embassy staff, and give notice to citizens to leave respective countries, and everything is now in place for hostilities to commence.
Apparently Russia can only keep its troops on the Ukrainian border for so long because of harsh conditions. Although the winter seems to have been milder this year and will soon be coming out of Winter.
The Russians have been moving in blood supplies which are of course only needed if you plan to attack:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-ukraine-war-sanctions-live-26295655
Ukraine has legalised the carrying of arms by its citizens for self defense purposes, will be just like the US now ;D
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State of emergency now declared in Ukraine..except for the Donetsk and Luhansk regions...with people now having the right to bear arms.
The state of emergency would be imposed for 30 days (renewable) and will cover the whole of Ukraine, with the exception of the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, which already in a state of emergency
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The Ukrainian President is now calling forward conscripts from the reserve to join the the main regular army:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-calls-up-reservists-launches-programme-economic-patriotism-2022-02-22/
If I were them I would be making use of that European Tourist visa-free scheme :D
Many of the great and the good have fled Ukraine as the article points out, wealthy businessmen, politicians, etc. I wouldn't see a need to fight if they aren't lol.
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The Ukrainian President is now calling forward conscripts from the reserve to join the the main regular army:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-calls-up-reservists-launches-programme-economic-patriotism-2022-02-22/
If I were them I would be making use of that European visa-free scheme :D
Many of the great and the good have fled Ukraine as the article points out, wealthy businessmen, politicians, etc. I wouldn't see a need to fight if they aren't lol.
I have 5 ladies and two small children (Tanyas friend) on their way here right now that used just that to "escape". They drove through Poland yesterday and took the overnight ferry to Sweden so now we are preparing the house to accommodate them for a while.
One of them has her husband in the army near Mariupol right on the frontline and they have been shelled continually for 2 days now.
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I have 5 ladies and two small children (Tanyas friend) on their way here right now that used just that to "escape". They drove through Poland yesterday and took the overnight ferry to Sweden so now we are preparing the house to accommodate them for a while.
One of them has her husband in the army near Mariupol right on the frontline and they have been shelled continually for 2 days now.
Yeah sounds about right the women scarper while the guys are put up to face it all lol. Anyway interesting to hear from a more local source how things are on the ground Nightwish. Sounds hellish being stuck in the trenches under such harsh conditions especially being shelled for 2 days straight, no doubt led to a few casualties.
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The Ukrainian President is now calling forward conscripts from the reserve to join the the main regular army:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-calls-up-reservists-launches-programme-economic-patriotism-2022-02-22/
If I were them I would be making use of that European Tourist visa-free scheme :D
Many of the great and the good have fled Ukraine as the article points out, wealthy businessmen, politicians, etc. I wouldn't see a need to fight if they aren't lol.
Reading your posts anyone would think you’re actually revelling at the prospect of conflict.
No doubt you think it’ll up your chances of ‘getting’ with a poor war refugee.
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Reading your posts anyone would think you’re actually revelling at the prospect of conflict.
No doubt you think it’ll up your chances of ‘getting’ with a poor war refugee.
Nah...will remain our resident news anchor always.
It does seem as though the media wants a war to report on... no doubt fueled by military contractor lobbyists.
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Reading your posts anyone would think you’re actually revelling at the prospect of conflict.
No doubt you think it’ll up your chances of ‘getting’ with a poor war refugee.
If that's Trench's thinking i suspect he's in for a nasty shock.
The hotties that are not being bused to Russia will be fleeing to Poland.
Once they're in Poland he'll have as much chance of pulling one of them as he has with a Polish girl...virtually nil..as they'll be hooking up with the local Polish guys as a way to remain there.
As for the few remaining in Ukraine then they'll be the benefits of conquest for the occupying Russian troops..bearing in mind General Trench has stated the Ukrainian forces will be obliterated by the Russian forces within a couple of days.
Russian troops are well-known for their treatment of women in occupied countries...as in Germany.
Plus the fact Trench,being a Brit and with our country in the forefront of helping Ukrainians kill Russian troops.he'll be far from welcome in a Russia occupied Ukraine or Russia..he might not even get out of the airport in one piece,
Nope,if things go as Trench believes,then he can forget about finding a wife/girlfriend in Ukraine now....it's all over for him there and in Russia .
Philippines or Thailand are his best options...plenty of edgy bad girls who dress in a slutty way he likes working the bars there who'll be only too happy to shack up with a Brit.
He might even find a Russian or Ukrainian girl there...Pattaya is full of them.
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If that's Trench's thinking i suspect he's in for a nasty shock.
Our Trench isn’t known for his listening skills since he ignores sound advice here unless it fits with his peculiar theories.
Philippines or Thailand are his best options...plenty of edgy bad girls who dress in a slutty way he likes working the bars there who'll be only too happy to shack up with a Brit.
He might be in for a shock with those pretty lil things and get more than he paid bargained for.
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If that's Trench's thinking i suspect he's in for a nasty shock.
The hotties that are not being bused to Russia will be fleeing to Poland.
Once they're in Poland he'll have as much chance of pulling one of them as he has with a Polish girl...virtually nil..as they'll be hooking up with the local Polish guys as a way to remain there.
As for the few remaining in Ukraine then they'll be the benefits of conquest for the occupying Russian troops..bearing in mind General Trench has stated the Ukrainian forces will be obliterated by the Russian forces within a couple of days.
Russian troops are well-known for their treatment of women in occupied countries...as in Germany.
Plus the fact Trench,being a Brit and with our country in the forefront of helping Ukrainians kill Russian troops.he'll be far from welcome in a Russia occupied Ukraine or Russia..he might not even get out of the airport in one piece,
Nope,if things go as Trench believes,then he can forget about finding a wife/girlfriend in Ukraine now....it's all over for him there and in Russia .
Philippines or Thailand are his best options...plenty of edgy bad girls who dress in a slutty way he likes working the bars there who'll be only too happy to shack up with a Brit.
He might even find a Russian or Ukrainian girl there...Pattaya is full of them.
I think worst case scenario you could be right CB. I think me, Pat, Steven & CB, etc will have to hope on Ukraine being made a puppet state and not incorporated into Russia. With a bit of luck they'll still allow tourist visa-free scheme as before to keep up the appearance of being still somewhat autonomous to the outside world. If that occurs we may ironically be better off than before as at least then we won't have Ukraine having close ties or even seeking membership with the EU and that raining on our parade. The Ukrainian visa-free EU scheme for its citizens will then probably be stopped and matters will be as they used to be in Ukraine again.
Poland idk, there is that, that the hottest girls may try to get with a Polish guy but there's the Religious difference, then a bit of cultural issues - the way the Polish value Ukrainian ms, etc. Also many Polish may already have wives, etc. Could be that our search for a Ukrainian girl takes us to Poland in future lol.
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Reading your posts anyone would think you’re actually revelling at the prospect of conflict.
No doubt you think it’ll up your chances of ‘getting’ with a poor war refugee.
I'm not revelling in the prospect of war between Russia & Ukraine at all Gaunty. None of it is my doing nor do I take any joy in the matter merely a keen interest as it's a country vans people I have great interest with, the women obviously mainly but I do have sympathy for the Ukrainian guys out there who are having to stomach it all.
Unfortunately, I can see little good news on the horizon for Ukrainians, the ball really is in Russia's court, specifically Putin on how it goes down from here and how much suffering is inflicted upon Ukrainians as a result.
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Our Secretary of State for Defence Ben Wallace said Putin "has gone full tonto ".
That means Taken Lunacy to a new level...easy English for you to read GQBlues.
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If that's Trench's thinking i suspect he's in for a nasty shock.
The hotties that are not being bused to Russia will be fleeing to Poland.
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well five of them arrived in Sweden today, five gorgeous Ukrainian ladies in their 30's will be occupying our home for the foreseeable future. If Trench wasn't such an ass I would invite him to come here and meet them, but.. naaah I would not do that to any lady, that would be a punishment worse than staying in Ukraine.
The checkpoint to Poland was really congested yesterday, a lot of women and children going to relatives already in west Europe. Took the girls over 4 hours to get across even though Polish borderguards just waived them through quickly after checking that they had valid passports, didn't even bother to question them where they where going.
I can just imagine the pressure on the border if Russia starts a bigger invasion targeting Kyiv and other bigger cities.
Mariupol is in Putins sight, he wants that landbridge to Crimea and the deployment of Ukrainian troops there around Mariupol is massive already, they expect a charge at any time, shelling has been going on endlessly for the last two days and when one of them here got a videocall from her husband on the front we could both see and hear the shells falling and the explosions.
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Our Secretary of State for Defence Ben Wallace said Putin "has gone full tonto ".
That means Taken Lunacy to a new level...easy English for you to read GQBlues.
As I've exemplified in more than one occasion about you, pretty obvious the 'ability to read and comprehend' isn't mutual.
Invasion yet? >:D
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As I've exemplified in more than one occasion about you, pretty obvious the 'ability to read and comprehend' isn't mutual.
Invasion yet? >:D
Yes, the invasion started 2014
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Yes, the invasion started 2014
I guess for Europeans, there isn't a distinction between a civil war from an invasion. Cannibalism is cannibalism, I suppose.
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I guess for Europeans, there isn't a distinction between a civil war from an invasion. Cannibalism is cannibalism, I suppose.
"Some" Americans are obviously not well educated in the simplest geography, not surprised though, let me explain this simply for you
Russia IS NOT Ukraine
In Russian: россия не украина
In programming language: Russia != Ukraine
Crimea is part of Ukraine - Crimea was invaded by Russia 2014
I know you often act stupid but You can not be this stupid?
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"Some" Americans are obviously not well educated in the simplest geography, not surprised though, let me explain this simply for you
Russia IS NOT Ukraine
In Russian: россия не украина
In programming language: Russia != Ukraine
Crimea is part of Ukraine - Crimea was invaded by Russia 2014
I know you often act stupid but You can not be this stupid?
How ironic. Crimea at the time was an autonomous state.
Stupid much?
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How ironic. Crimea at the time was an autonomous state.
Stupid much?
Yes, yes you are.
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Yes, yes you are.
>:D Happy to edooket another European.
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Crimea was an autonomous republic within the Ukrainian state. It was not an independent country. It was a subdivision of Ukraine. Yes, it was invaded by Russia in 2014.
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well five of them arrived in Sweden today, five gorgeous Ukrainian ladies in their 30's will be occupying our home for the foreseeable future. If Trench wasn't such an ass I would invite him to come here and meet them, but.. naaah I would not do that to any lady, that would be a punishment worse than staying in Ukraine.
The checkpoint to Poland was really congested yesterday, a lot of women and children going to relatives already in west Europe. Took the girls over 4 hours to get across even though Polish borderguards just waived them through quickly after checking that they had valid passports, didn't even bother to question them where they where going.
I can just imagine the pressure on the border if Russia starts a bigger invasion targeting Kyiv and other bigger cities.
Mariupol is in Putins sight, he wants that landbridge to Crimea and the deployment of Ukrainian troops there around Mariupol is massive already, they expect a charge at any time, shelling has been going on endlessly for the last two days and when one of them here got a videocall from her husband on the front we could both see and hear the shells falling and the explosions.
Ah see we have that Husky back on here again licking at me balls ;D
It looks like many Ukrainians are making their way to western Ukraine to Lviv in particular according to this article:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-22/as-russia-inches-closer-to-war-lviv-has-become-a-sanctuary/100851494
They are no doubt hedging their bets and thinking if Russia invades then they can do a quick sprint to the Polish border. I'm thinking they may be taken by surprise by a quick push by Russian possibly even some Belarusian troops from the North. They reckon 1-2 Millon mostly Ukrainians will try to cross, but what are the odds that Putin know this and will try to race forward as fast as possible to cut off the 'escape route'. May all depend on Putin's plans for Ukraine, if he is looking to incorporate the whole of Ukraine into the Russian Federation then he'll want to keep his hands on as much of the population as possible to work there. If his intentions is to set up a puppet government then he might figure those that cross the border might soon return, although he might still try to rush to close the border just in case.
So if I were in Lviv I wouldn't necessarily count on crossing quick especially as loads of others will be clogging up the roads and railways to do the same. Lviv may not look far on the map from the Polish border but it still takes a but of time to get there and that may become an issue for some I'm thinking.
I think Putin will be wanting to get his hands on Mariupol pretty eagerly as it's worth in being a Maritime Port on the Black Sea makes it strategically worthy. I'm not so sure he'll be that bothered about a land bridge to Crimea now that he has his sea bridge built there. What Putin decides to take and whether he might partition Ukraine we'll have to wait and see I guess.
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Crimea was an autonomous republic within the Ukrainian state. It was not an independent country. It was a subdivision of Ukraine. Yes, it was invaded by Russia in 2014.
Like I said, Crimea was an autonomous state in 2014. Not sure which part of that was difficult to understand.
Invasion: an outside attack, 'entering', 'intrusion', 'penetration' et al...another territory or country.
tsk, tsk, tsk...
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"Some" Americans are obviously not well educated in the simplest geography, not surprised though, let me explain this simply for you
Russia IS NOT Ukraine
In Russian: россия не украина
In programming language: Russia != Ukraine
Crimea is part of Ukraine - Crimea was invaded by Russia 2014
I know you often act stupid but You can not be this stupid?
Oh yes he is..he shows it with practically every post he makes. :cluebat:
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Oh yes he is..he shows it with practically every post he makes. :cluebat:
GQ, the eagle high above the turkeys.
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"Autonomous republic" is merely an administratinve designation. Their budget came from Kyiv. Their currency was the hyrvnia. They had no independent foreign policy. They were akin to Quebec in Canada - even less so, as they had no immigration powers.
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"Autonomous republic" is merely an administratinve designation. Their budget came from Kyiv. Their currency as the hyrvnia. They had no independent foreign policy. They were akin to Quebec in Canada - even less so, as they had no immigration powers.
Its a 'legal' designation. Crimea still retained the right to choose their own governance. They voted for their annexation to Russia convincingly, and for anyone who would like to dispute that outcome, a poll was conducted 2 years ago (http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ukraine/2020-04-03/russia-love) and the majority still favored the annexation. And this...
Crimean residents are almost universally positive toward Russia. At least nine-in-ten have confidence in Putin (93%) and say Russia is playing a positive role in Crimea (92%). Confidence in Obama is almost negligible at 4%, and just 2% think the U.S. is having a good influence on the way things are going on the Crimean peninsula[/size].[/color][/size]
Do not make the mistake to think I'm a fan of Putin. There's enough posts of mine in this very board that would openly dispute that. As an American, Ukraine nd Russia have a much deeper history together than most neighboring nations today. It is up to their own peoples to determine their own fate. The last thing I would hate to see is having the US having to stick its snotty nose in this current volatile situation - AGAIN. There was plenty enough Ukrainians, and Russians, that died in 2014 bloodying our hands with it. Enough.
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HAHAHA. Yeah, sure. They voted for annexation. Just like Czechoslovakia voted for annexation to Germany in 1938.
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HAHAHA. Yeah, sure. They voted for annexation. Just like Czechoslovakia voted for annexation to Germany in 1938.
Apples and oranges anyone?
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Apparently 80 percent of Putin's forces now in attack position:
http://news.sky.com/story/amp/ukraine-enters-state-of-emergency-as-pentagon-says-80-of-russian-forces-in-attack-position-12549749
As I said the Separatists 'asked' Putin for military help which he was all too willing to oblige.
My guess is that they are drawing up battle plans now for the attack, most will have been completed probably by now.
So probably little time left now before Russia attacks. My guess is that they will hit them from all sides at once so it's too much for Ukraine to deal with. The Donbas & Luhansk just serving as an excuse for Putin to state the need to take out Ukraine as a whole as a belligerent nation.
My guess is that they will hit Ukraine's main army in the east with a lot of missiles and in a few other places as well before they send in ground forces. I think that has become almost certain now since we sent them the NLAW's.
I personally see Ukrainian Army casualties as being the highest, unfortunately likely in the tens of thousands almost instantly, could easily be 50,000-100,000 or more. Such a loss of life would be terrible so I would hope otherwise but fear that will be the case.
I think Putin will surround the cities and likely starve them out, at which point with the loss of most of their army the Ukrainian politicians, etc who are open to Russia and themselves gaining lucrative positions in the new regime will likely cone forward to 'negotiate'. Putin will then probably take the bits of Ukraine he wants to incorporate into Russia and give the puppet government his terms which they will agree to.
My guess is that he won't probably try and incorporate all of Ukraine into Russia to avoid a lot of civilian bloodshed by entering all of their major cities, that and a smashed economy. On top of that it would probably avoid terrorism, insurgencies, etc. Otherwise Putin will have to tackle many Ukrainian citizens armed to the teeth in the cities, blasting and clearing as he goes. That is likely to be dangerous for his army and take a lot of time and loss of population & economy. I don't think he'll want to do that its not really worth his while. I think a report a week or so ago said that he reckoned the Russian Army could accomplish the Invasion in about 48 hours. That would tie up with the scenario I've presented. Putin has no doubt seen how it went down for the US, UK, etc in Iraq an won't want those problems on his hands for a long period of time.
Anyway, that's how I reckon it will go down, he won't be up for a WWI or WWII style shooting contest with Ukrainians is my thoughts, he'll keep out of that and use more modern warfare.
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Looks like VVP lost his patience.
Ukraine is an undeniable failed state, and arguably a failed society. In some respects it is comparable to the Balkans. The difference now it is Russia putting its foot down and not NATO.
Welcome to the real world. The ability to put impart military might is still trumps BS. Crimea has been part of the Russian Federation for eight years and that's not going to change. The policy of 'unrecognized' buffer states (South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transnistria) has been expanded. This is by and large a direct response to NATO advancement toward Russia's borders.
To the winner takes the spoils. Russia comprehensively won the conflict in 2014. The West still haven't accepted the "L". The best NATO can muster is a dirty conflict in Donbas. The best the US/UK can do is announce further sanctions. The EU can do jack shit as it is reliant on Russian (energy) exports.
The USD/RUB is nearing new highs. Will be interesting to see if resistance is broken and the RUB declines significantly. If it does then RF real estate is looking like a speculative play to me.
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The last thing I would hate to see is having the US having to stick its snotty nose in this current volatile situation - AGAIN. There was plenty enough Ukrainians, and Russians, that died in 2014 bloodying our hands with it. Enough.
Dude, the US doesn't have a nose...it has a snout, and it ain't snot, it's shit.
Fathertime!
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. He might be in for a shock with those pretty lil things and get more than he paid bargained for.
Gaunty, you are really underestimating good old TC. Remember during the great toilet paper crisis of 2020, he is the one who had babes lining up down the block for his TP supply, trading in their bodily wares. If I recall correctly, he was such a shrewd capitalist that as the crisis deepened, he started charging them by the inch and ply. If TC wants value with these escaping Ukrainian babes, he will find a way.
Fathertime!
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The last thing I would hate to see is having the US having to stick its snotty nose in this current volatile situation....
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb022322dAPR20220223054505.jpg)
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Gaunty, you are really underestimating good old TC. Remember during the great toilet paper crisis of 2020, he is the one who had babes lining up down the block for his TP supply, trading in their bodily wares. If I recall correctly, he was such a shrewd capitalist that as the crisis deepened, he started charging them by the inch and ply. If TC wants value with these escaping Ukrainian babes, he will find a way.
Fathertime!
Oh dear.
My post was in response to a comment about TC doing better in Thailand and is about pretty Thai ladies and Ladyboys, not hot Ukrainian women.
As far as Trench and toilet paper goes, thank you for pointing that out. I think that connection is very apt.
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Crimea was an autonomous republic within the Ukrainian state. It was not an independent country. It was a subdivision of Ukraine. Yes, it was invaded by Russia in 2014.
Exactly.
No semantics here.
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Putin and Russia strongly condemned in the UN by practically every country for their illegal actions in Crimea and Occupied regions of Donbas.
Great speech by the UKR Foreign Minister.
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(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb022322dAPR20220223054505.jpg)
One of the funnier cartoons I've seen.
I'm going to have to try greeting clients in that position at my shop.
Fathertime!
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It seems a full blown war is erupting the US stock exchange has flipped out.. If the earliest of reports are accurate Putin is at all playing around and has threatened US assets as well. It seems Putin has indeed decided to go big. Old Trenchcoat may have been right this one time.
Fathertime!
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The USD/RUB is nearing new highs. Will be interesting to see if resistance is broken and the RUB declines significantly. If it does then RF real estate is looking like a speculative play to me.
USD/RUB exceeded and closed on a new high. Watching this over the next few days. Not sure the market has already priced in prospective sanctions.
Prior to actions in 2014 USD/RUB was around 35, now it is 84 (was 74 at the start of the year). RCB may need to hike rates to keep inflation in check. Unlike most western countries they haven't adopted ZIRP so may go into recession but keep their currency functional.
Not sure the RF will be cut off from SWIFT but if that happens the RUB may drop like a stone. The only way for ordinary people to get money in and out of the country in that situation is likely to be physical transit.
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To all those with family in Ukraine, my thoughts and prayers for them.
What Putin has done is beyond the pale.
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FULL SCALE INVASION OF UKRAINE HAS BEGUN!!!!!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60503037
Just as I predicted last night Russia has chosen to attack from all sides all at once and has now launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine! Russian troops have breached the Ukrainian border in a number of places and Ukrainian troops have come under missile attack. So much for the military training exercises Russia was just claiming it was up to, shows that Putin can't be trusted. Invasion of the whole of Ukraine is fully underway now, no longer any doubt.
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FULL SCALE INVASION OF UKRAINE HAS BEGUN!!!!!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60503037
Just as I predicted last night Russia has chosen to attack from all sides all at once and has now launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine! Russian troops have breached the Ukrainian border in a number of places and Ukrainian troops have come under missile attack. So much for the military training exercises Russia was just claiming it was up to, shows that Putin can't be trusted. Invasion of the whole of Ukraine is fully underway now, no longer any doubt.
Trench, just stfu.
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Trench, just stfu.
Putin's going about it exactly as I said just hours before hand last night Gaunty. If Putin holds to what he says he's not going to take the whole of Ukraine, it will be as I predicted a puppet government in what remains of Ukraine with them agreeing to Putin's terms. Putin states he is aiming to demilitarise Ukraine so as thought he will hammer Ukraine's military and just leave the new Ukrainian puppet government with whatever remains of the smashed military.
Apparently a number of sites have been hit, military installations and airports including Boryspill International Airport near Kyiv, know it well obviously but no chance of anyone going there now.
Civilians in Kyiv hopped in their cars and piled out of Kyiv moments after Putin's broadcast. Again a complete stompede towards the border and likely too late. Many believed Putin would not invade in a full scale invasion only to be proved wrong this morning.
No doubt a lot more will be going down on this today with it all moving pretty fast.
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Putin's going about it exactly as I said just hours before hand last night Gaunty. If Putin holds to what he says he's not going to take the whole of Ukraine, it will be as I predicted a puppet government in what remains of Ukraine with them agreeing to Putin's terms. Putin states he is aiming to demilitarise Ukraine so as thought he will hammer Ukraine's military and just leave the new Ukrainian puppet government with whatever remains of the smashed military.
Apparently a number of sites have been hit, military installations and airports including Boryspill International Airport near Kyiv, know it well obviously but no chance of anyone going there now.
Civilians in Kyiv hopped in their cars and piled out of Kyiv moments after Putin's broadcast. Again a complete stompede towards the border and likely too late. Many believed Putin would not invade in a full scale invasion only to be proved wrong this morning.
No doubt a lot more will be going down on this today with it all moving pretty fast.
Nobody’s interested in your BS parroting taken from the Daily Wail and claiming it as your own analysis.
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Meanwhile, in real news, about 40 UKR casualties near Chernighiv where the Ukrainian army is holding the Russians back.
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A rundown of the full scale invasion so far:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10546123/How-Ukraine-invasion-unfolded-minute-minute.html
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Nobody’s interested in your BS parroting taken from the Daily Wail and claiming it as your own analysis.
I assure you that wasn't taken from any other source than my own noggin Gaunty.
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Just some more accounts on the full scale Invasion:
BBC News - Ukraine invasion: Kyiv residents seek shelter as blasts hit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60506712
So far it looks like Putin is after Kharkiv with Russian paratroopers dropped there. It's very near the Russian border so very vulnerable. Odessa may have Russian paratroopers dropped there also and seems to be an immediate target also. Russian Tanks have apparently been rolling up from Crimea likely towards Kherson and Separatists in the East launching an all out offensive supported by Russian planes etc. Missiles have apparently been landing everywhere with hundreds dead already.
Our Yankee friends on this forum will no doubt just be waking up to this news in the States and may come as quite a shock to some of them.
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As I've exemplified in more than one occasion about you, pretty obvious the 'ability to read and comprehend' isn't mutual.
Invasion yet? >:D
18 people killed in Odesa by missile strikes today
Ukraine being attacked by Russia by land sea and air.
Invasion yet ? >:D
Putin/Hitler publicly threatens the rest of the World not to intervene in his slaughter of Ukrainians
Another Putin apologist shown up to be totally stupid and gullible. :cluebat:
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Looks like VVP lost his patience.
Ukraine is an undeniable failed state, and arguably a failed society. In some respects it is comparable to the Balkans. The difference now it is Russia putting its foot down and not NATO.
Welcome to the real world. The ability to put impart military might is still trumps BS. Crimea has been part of the Russian Federation for eight years and that's not going to change. The policy of 'unrecognized' buffer states (South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transnistria) has been expanded. This is by and large a direct response to NATO advancement toward Russia's borders.
To the winner takes the spoils. Russia comprehensively won the conflict in 2014. The West still haven't accepted the "L". The best NATO can muster is a dirty conflict in Donbas. The best the US/UK can do is announce further sanctions. The EU can do jack shit as it is reliant on Russian (energy) exports.
The USD/RUB is nearing new highs. Will be interesting to see if resistance is broken and the RUB declines significantly. If it does then RF real estate is looking like a speculative play to me.
Sounds like you're relishing what's happening in Ukraine and cheerleading murderous Putin.
Did you get dumped/rejected by a Ukrainian woman ?
Or maybe you just admire tyrants.
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My wife was able to talk to her family in Lugansk this morning. Their internet is intermittent and slow, but they are able to message each other. They say the army pushed out from Lugansk heading west. The fighting is happening in Ukrainian territory, so they are safe for the moment. This was the only good news, that family is ok.
I have spent a lot of time in Ukraine and I love that country only second to my own. I can only hope that this invasion ends quickly to limit the amount of bloodshed. It hurts to see places that I have been to multiple times with people being killed and injured. I felt the same when the fighting started in 2014. Seeing the utter destruction of the Donetsk airport where I met my wife in person for the first time made my heart ache.
It still amazes me the depths of depravity that politicians and dictators will go to get what they want. I guess I should stop being surprised by the brutality of the human animal.
I can only hope that the people of Ukraine can survive and live through what is happening. My prayers go out to the people of Ukraine that are being subjected to the stupidity of tin pot dictators.
This is what happens when you have idiots in charge of countries.
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Ukraine reporting 40 of their troops killed and that they've killed 50 Russian troops.
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Well now that it appears Putin is going to go big, it may be that all of Ukraine is going to be his goal. It seems that trying to occupy a country that size would be terribly difficult without significant support from within.
It seems pretty clear that China is going to support Russia from a financial standpoint. China has 1.4 billion people, more than all of Europe. China needs energy and food. Russia has both. If we (The US) further agitate, demonize, or try to sanction China I now wouldn't be surprised if they decided to envelope Taiwan once and for all.
Russia promises severe and unseen consequences for nations that interfere in their dismembering of Ukraine. One can guess that Putin would be willing to take the fight to a foreign land (US soil, UK soil, etc etc), meaning bombing. Here in the US, we have been insulated for decades from real war, and it seems we want to remain that way. Russia wouldn't be able to 'win' a large-scale war, but their threats are probably real.
Looking back at now distant history, the US had created an oil embargo and froze Japanese assets, and Japan retaliated unexpectedly at Pearl Harbor. Trying to use power and influence to hold nations back creates rancor and eventually war. Nowadays with nuclear weapons floating around, the dynamics have changed, and major war has been off the table due to MAD.
China calls for talks on Ukraine, OKs Russian wheat imports
China called Thursday for talks to resolve the Ukraine crisis and avoided criticizing President Vladimir Putin’s attack while, in a step that could blunt the impact of Western sanctions, Beijing also approved imports of Russian wheat.
....Beijing has blamed Washington and its European allies for the conflict over Ukraine.
“All parties should work for peace instead of escalating the tension or hyping up the possibility of war,” Hua said. “Those parties who were busy condemning others, what have they done? Have they persuaded others?"....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/china-calls-talks-over-ukraine-085706369.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/china-calls-talks-over-ukraine-085706369.html)
Fathertime!
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The only thing that prevents moving RF IMHO is that they still haven't cleaned the whole SAM Ukrainian system.
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My wife was able to talk to her family in Lugansk this morning. Their internet is intermittent and slow, but they are able to message each other. They say the army pushed out from Lugansk heading west. The fighting is happening in Ukrainian territory, so they are safe for the moment. This was the only good news, that family is ok.
I have spent a lot of time in Ukraine and I love that country only second to my own. I can only hope that this invasion ends quickly to limit the amount of bloodshed. It hurts to see places that I have been to multiple times with people being killed and injured. I felt the same when the fighting started in 2014. Seeing the utter destruction of the Donetsk airport where I met my wife in person for the first time made my heart ache.
It still amazes me the depths of depravity that politicians and dictators will go to get what they want. I guess I should stop being surprised by the brutality of the human animal.
I can only hope that the people of Ukraine can survive and live through what is happening. My prayers go out to the people of Ukraine that are being subjected to the stupidity of tin pot dictators.
This is what happens when you have idiots in charge of countries.
I lost faith in people a long time ago.
NATO in particular and the EU have seriously let down the people of Ukraine.
They held out the hope for full membership for Ukraine for many years without actually letting them join,knowing full well that Mad Vlad was seriously unhappy in the meantime and things could kick-off at anytime.
NATO should hang their heads in shame....all talk no trousers.
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I lost faith in people a long time ago.
NATO in particular and the EU have seriously let down the people of Ukraine.
They held out the hope for full membership for Ukraine for many years without actually letting them join,knowing full well that Mad Vlad was seriously unhappy in the meantime and things could kick-off at anytime.
NATO should hang their heads in shame....all talk no trousers.
That is not a surprise, NATO is all woke pussies like most of the West. Unless they are beating their own population for being a patriot.
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It seems 'blaming' Blair is rampant in your line of thinking..in the US that's called 'passing the buck'. How did Mr. Blair come into such a powerful position again to cause the UK's bloody hand in Afghanistan again?
Following todays events,remind us how Putin came into power and of even more concern how he's stayed in power to cause Russia's bloody hand in Georgia,Syria and now Ukraine.
Are you holding ALL Russians accountable for what's happening in Ukraine right now ?
Or are you going to "pass the buck " ?
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Protests in Russia now starting.
A large amount of protestors in Yekaterinburg shouting "No to War ".
Russia really needs to get Mad Vlad out of power one way or another..nothing off the table....as us Brits did with our war criminal Blair...or things are not going to end well for the World.
Mad Vlad has totally lost his mind.
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So the world woke up to the reality Russia had taken a page off the Iraq invasion and launched a massive countrywide invasion of Ukraine. Let me see now..
1. Putin is evil - check.
2. US promised not to advance NATO an inch eastward from Berlin, but reneged on that - check
3. Putin showed his evil ways in Chechnya - check
4. Georgia and Ukraine aspired to become NATO members - evil Putin showed the stupid consequence of that in Georgia - check
5. Ukraine conducted an illegal coup of a internationally recognized and certified presidential (pro-Russian) administration that culminated in a civil war and a territorial military takeover by evil Putin within the Ukrainian sovereignty - check.
6. 8 years later, at the behest of the very same US politicians to again open the potentiality of Ukraine's NATO membership, despite nearly half the European members believing it can't happen, should not happen and a very bad idea. Yet Biden forged ahead and declared Ukraine's NATO membership will not even be included in any negotiation to negate looming military response from Russia as a consequence - check.
7. Now the world witnesses Russia's nationwide demoralizing total invasion of Ukraine - check
8. Full circle. Putin is evil - check
Why would anyone in their right fucking mind, insist on putting its entire population at mortal peril over something that could've been easily avoided, for a membership of a 'club' where half of its members believe/felt they shouldn't be granted such membership - for the simple reason they'd all wake up to what they're waking up on today? and a looming threat of another world war.
Any of you can give me your silly rationale that anyone is entitled to the right to do what it wants, then I grant you to lay witness to what is rationally, predictable reality of that today. The bill always comes due.
The US, and some of its idiotic rabid allies, poked this rabid bear way too much and for way too long. Now it reared its fangs and dare anyone of you to come to his party.
Next stop: Taiwan/China.
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The only thing that prevents moving RF IMHO is that they still haven't cleaned the whole SAM Ukrainian system.
First things first.
Sever communication system, demoralize and take over all airports (paratroopers have mostly manned airport/field perimeters), man all land and port borders and isolate the country, while taking over its capital and leaders.
Any outside aid, or crusaders ceases.
Anyone who is non-Ukrainian who rallied for this is responsible for putting every Ukrainian in grave peril.
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Got to say expected Russia to go in harder and faster than this. It looks like their strategy is purely centred on choking the enemy - Ukraine, into surrender. If it can encircle the cities and army cut of its routes of supply, namely the sea ports, which it has done and the border then it's only a matter of time before food starts to run out. A city full of millions of people is going to chomp through food pretty quickly, probably within days. The Ukrainian Army will be much the same. At which point capitulation will begin, Pro-Russian Ukrainians will step forward to negotiate surrender and terms of peace treaty, they'll have no choice but to accept and will get lucrative positions in the new government. The people will accept that is the only way out of their situation of starvation and hey ho it's all sorted.
So at least on the tens of thousands killed I may have been wrong though on that I prefer to be it just sounded too terrible.
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Here seems to be the latest:
http://news.sky.com/story/russia-launches-invasion-of-ukraine-forces-trying-to-seize-site-of-chernobyl-nuclear-disaster-12550026
Apparently amphibious landings in Odessa & Mariupol. Kherson has apparently been subjected to fighting those tanks from Crimea no doubt having arrived now. Bet there's some bad Pro-date/Scammer girls probably now wishing they had been decent with their western guys and gone off abroad with them now ;)
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So at least on the tens of thousands killed I may have been wrong though on that I prefer to be it just sounded too terrible.
I don't think Russia would want 1,000's dead Ukrainian or especially Russian. so it does make sense they would first try lower impact.
Fathetime!
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I don't think Russia would want 1,000's dead Ukrainian or especially Russian. so it does make sense they would first try lower impact.
Fathetime!
I agree it's not great for long term stability or in a country's history. Looks to me this is a classic case of regime change just Russia instigating it in Ukraine this time. What are the odds they might place Yanokovich back as President so reversing the situation back in 2014?
Apparently the Russians are trying to get their hands on Chernobyl. I think I vaguely recall it's still functioning as a nuclear power plant despite the accident they had there back in the 80's. No doubt trying to deprive Kyivans of power as well as food, so adding the cold etc to the mix draining their will to go on holding out. Let's hope it doesn't end in another nuclear catastrophe in their attempts to get their hands on it.
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I'm surprised other forum members such as 2tallbill & Boe don't have more to say on this Invasion.
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For the more matured and studied readers:
An excerpt of a 1998 NYT’s Thomas Friedman’s interview with US Ambassador George Kennan, derived from NYT’s article: “Fumbling on NATO’s Expansion” A cut from the sessions regarding NATO: (http://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CREC-1998-03-03/html/CREC-1998-03-03-pt1-PgS1283-3.htm)
War veteran: Secretary Cohen, I thought we fought the cold war to change Russia, not to expand NATO. But now that we've changed Russia and should be consolidating that, you want to expand NATO?''
Secretary Cohen: NATO expansion is not directed against Russia. It's meant to secure the new democracies in East Europe.
Heckler: If it's meant to secure democracy in new democracies, isn't the most important new democracy Russia? And why is your P.R. campaign for NATO expansion being funded by U.S. arms sellers, who see NATO expansion as market expansion for their new weapons?
Student: I just got the spring issue of The National Interest magazine. It contains a letter from George Kennan, the architect of America's cold-war containment of the Soviet Union and one of our nation's greatest statesmen. Kennan says NATO expansion is a historic blunder. What do you all know that he doesn't? This is what he said:
I think it is the beginning of a new cold war, I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else.
This expansion would make the Founding Fathers of this country turn over in their graves. We have signed up to protect a whole series of countries, even though we have neither the resources nor the intention to do so in any serious way. [NATO expansion] was simply a light-hearted action by a Senate that has no real interest in foreign affairs.
What bothers me is how superficial and ill informed the whole Senate debate was (Note: Mr. Kennan was present at the creation of NATO and whose anonymous 1947 article in the journal Foreign Affairs, signed ''X,'' defined America's cold-war containment policy for 40 years).
I was particularly bothered by the references to Russia as a country dying to attack Western Europe. Don't people understand? Our differences in the cold war were with the Soviet Communist regime. And now we are turning our backs on the very people who mounted the greatest bloodless revolution in history to remove that Soviet regime.
And Russia's democracy is as far advanced, if not farther, as any of these countries we've just signed up to defend from Russia. It shows so little understanding of Russian history and Soviet history. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then [the NATO expanders] will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are -- but this is just wrong.
[/size]Read: Owen Harries’ ‘The Dangers of Expansive Realism’. Today's reality of that is covered here (http://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/02/ignored-warnings-how-nato-expansion-led-to-the-current-ukraine-tragedy/).
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NATO in particular and the EU have seriously let down the people of Ukraine.
They held out the hope for full membership for Ukraine for many years without actually letting them join, knowing full well that Mad Vlad was seriously unhappy in the meantime and things could kick-off at anytime.
NATO should hang their heads in shame....all talk no trousers.
That was a MAJOR blunder. They offered UA hopes of joining but no timetable nor conditions. Very stupid.
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That is not a surprise, NATO is all woke pussies like most of the West. Unless they are beating their own population for being a patriot.
You mean, like patriots wiping their asses with the Constitution? 8)
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Looks like Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant has now fallen to Russian troops:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10545389/BREAKING-NEWS-Explosions-heard-Ukraine-port-city-Mariupol.html
They're also trying to gain control of power plants on the Dniper River so it's looking like they are trying to switch of Ukraine. Once that is done and they cut of food supply routes it's only a matter of time I guess. Fierce fighting happening elsewhere as well.
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So the world woke up to the reality Russia had taken a page off the Iraq invasion and launched a massive countrywide invasion of Ukraine. Let me see now..
1. Putin is evil - check.
2. US promised not to advance NATO an inch eastward from Berlin, but reneged on that - check
3. Putin showed his evil ways in Chechnya - check
4. Georgia and Ukraine aspired to become NATO members - evil Putin showed the stupid consequence of that in Georgia - check
5. Ukraine conducted an illegal coup of a internationally recognized and certified presidential (pro-Russian) administration that culminated in a civil war and a territorial military takeover by evil Putin within the Ukrainian sovereignty - check.
6. 8 years later, at the behest of the very same US politicians to again open the potentiality of Ukraine's NATO membership, despite nearly half the European members believing it can't happen, should not happen and a very bad idea. Yet Biden forged ahead and declared Ukraine's NATO membership will not even be included in any negotiation to negate looming military response from Russia as a consequence - check.
7. Now the world witnesses Russia's nationwide demoralizing total invasion of Ukraine - check
8. Full circle. Putin is evil - check
Why would anyone in their right fucking mind, insist on putting its entire population at mortal peril over something that could've been easily avoided, for a membership of a 'club' where half of its members believe/felt they shouldn't be granted such membership - for the simple reason they'd all wake up to what they're waking up on today? and a looming threat of another world war.
Any of you can give me your silly rationale that anyone is entitled to the right to do what it wants, then I grant you to lay witness to what is rationally, predictable reality of that today. The bill always comes due.
The US, and some of its idiotic rabid allies, poked this rabid bear way too much and for way too long. Now it reared its fangs and dare anyone of you to come to his party.
Next stop: Taiwan/China.
GQ, I know you are a young stud. 8)
Probably, me thinks you missed the middle chapter of the 20th Century history book.
What just happened is more like Czechoslovakia and the Wehrmacht. Please review that chapter. Specifically who was in charge of the armies. Uncanny similarities.
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I don't think Russia would want 1,000's dead Ukrainian or especially Russian. so it does make sense they would first try lower impact.
Fathetime!
You are absolutely correct.
However, I don't think Putan doesn't give a shit about this.
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Sounds like you're relishing what's happening in Ukraine and cheerleading murderous Putin.
Did you get dumped/rejected by a Ukrainian woman ?
Or maybe you just admire tyrants.
I think he is a Julio living in UA.
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GQ, I know you are a young stud. 8)
Probably, me thinks you missed the middle chapter of the 20th Century history book.
What just happened is more like Czechoslovakia and the Wehrmacht. Please review that chapter. Specifically who was in charge of the armies. Uncanny similarities.
Geopolitical history share many similar ambition albeit different players, different times sharing the same result.
But a quick review of the short history of this current tragedy, in the same location, same players and the very same context, should've given everyone a short tutorial of the consequential result what we are waking up to.
Just IMHO. This was overtly warned to all of us a day past reunification of Berlin.
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Looks like VVP lost his patience.
Ukraine is an undeniable failed state, and arguably a failed society. In some respects it is comparable to the Balkans. The difference now it is Russia putting its foot down and not NATO.
Welcome to the real world. The ability to put impart military might is still trumps BS. Crimea has been part of the Russian Federation for eight years and that's not going to change. The policy of 'unrecognized' buffer states (South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transnistria) has been expanded. This is by and large a direct response to NATO advancement toward Russia's borders.
To the winner takes the spoils. Russia comprehensively won the conflict in 2014. The West still haven't accepted the "L". The best NATO can muster is a dirty conflict in Donbas. The best the US/UK can do is announce further sanctions. The EU can do jack shit as it is reliant on Russian (energy) exports.
The USD/RUB is nearing new highs. Will be interesting to see if resistance is broken and the RUB declines significantly. If it does then RF real estate is looking like a speculative play to me.
Lost his patience??? For what? Ukraine was no threat to Russia, and had he removed troops from Donbas, the countries likely would have resumed completely normal relations. As was, they had diplomatic relations.
The EU can go to other suppliers - the Middle East, Canada, the US (via LG).
If you think this is about NATO, you're a fool. It was never about NATO. Russian children go to bed hearing fairy tales, most of which take place in Kyiv. For Putin, it's about empire restoration, proving he is very much living in the past. Personally, I think he has small man/small d energy, and killing thousands of innocents makes him feel powerful in a sick way.
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A cracking exchange rate can be had on the GBP or USD Vs the Russian Ruble or Ukrainian Ghrivna right now.
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People are dying on the ground in Ukraine RIGHT FUCKING *NOW*! It is NOT the time for you to be bickering about nonsensical bullshit. Direct your energies to something/anything which might save lives rather than pissing on each other's boots on an internet forum.
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I am curious as to what happens with this market if this conflict becomes a prolonged situation. Will the energy industry determine nations' resolve in this conflict, and for how long?
http://www.gazpromexport.ru/en/statistics/ (http://www.gazpromexport.ru/en/statistics/)
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I think it is prime time to give Putin a taste of his own medicine.
Konigsberg historically was never Russian. It only came into being after WWII. The Soviet Union took it as a war prize from Germany. When the Soviet Union fell apart in 1991, the (now NATO) countries surrounding it didn't want it, so Russia claimed it. (And why didn't Russia throw a fit when NATO surrounded Konigsberg?)
I think we need to see military action and wipe Kaliningrad from the face of the map. It should not be under Russian control. It needs returned to its historical owners. As for the fact that Kaliningrad is the base for the Russian naval fleet...too bad. As for the fact that Kaliningrad is the center of much of Russian industry...too bad. Losing Kaliningrad should be the kind of consequences Russia has to deal with for attacking Ukraine without provocation.
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I am curious as to what happens with this market if this conflict becomes a prolonged situation. Will the energy industry determine nations' resolve in this conflict, and for how long?
http://www.gazpromexport.ru/en/statistics/ (http://www.gazpromexport.ru/en/statistics/)
Surprised to learn how much Gazprom export of their gas GQ, 78 percent is a hell of a lot for a big company like that. My thoughts are though that when a shortage is created prices rise so depends how long they are out of the European market for I guess. If only for so long they may not lose that much. My guess is that's why Putin has chosen to attack at the end of winter as it's the most lucrative time of the year so rather than a of winter. Plus his troops won't fancy being stuck outside in the depths of winter too long so now once invaded they are heading towards Spring even if that isn't all that warm out there it's no doubt better than winter.
I'm thinking the conflict won't go on long enough for the energy industry to start kicking off about it, it will likely be over in days. I think that will be part the reason that Putin will go for a puppet government in the hope of things calming down afterwards and Europe getting hooked up again to Russian gas.
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And in some good news, Yahoo is reporting that a Russian platoon laid down their arms and surrendered to Ukrainian forces. They developed a conscience, and didn't want to kill their Ukrainian brothers. They said they had not been told they were brought here to kill Ukrainians.
Hopefully more Russian forces will follow suit.
http://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-ambassador-says-russian-platoon-201138508.html
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And in some good news, Yahoo is reporting that a Russian platoon laid down their arms and surrendered to Ukrainian forces. They developed a conscience, and didn't want to kill their Ukrainian brothers. They said they had not been told they were brought here to kill Ukrainians.
Hopefully more Russian forces will follow suit.
http://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-ambassador-says-russian-platoon-201138508.html
Perhaps they thought they were going there to pull some Ukrainian chicks:
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8477730/russian-soldiers-tinder-ukraine/amp/
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Web Sites. Not sure why Facebook is used...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/list-important-ukrainian-websites-regular-updates-including-armed-forces-president-zelensky-cabinet-ministers-defense-ministry-airports/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/list-important-ukrainian-websites-regular-updates-including-armed-forces-president-zelensky-cabinet-ministers-defense-ministry-airports/)
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Ukraine is finding out first hand what the EU is really like, what they had hoped to join, an ineffectual bureaucracy that just doesn't care for others just itself and it's interests:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/kyiv-furious-as-eu-wavers-on-banning-russia-from-swift-payment-system
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I wish Ukraine all the very best! May the bloodshed immediately stop, and destruction be averted.
I also hope hope this movement grows and more Americans wake up to the reality of our world today. NATO is obsolete. Totally disband it.
http://www.liberationnews.org/protest-outside-white-house-demands-no-war-on-russia-disband-nato/ (http://www.liberationnews.org/protest-outside-white-house-demands-no-war-on-russia-disband-nato/)
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I wish Ukraine all the very best! May the bloodshed immediately stop, and destruction be averted.
I also hope hope this movement grows and more Americans wake up to the reality of our world today. NATO is obsolete. Totally disband it.
http://www.liberationnews.org/protest-outside-white-house-demands-no-war-on-russia-disband-nato/ (http://www.liberationnews.org/protest-outside-white-house-demands-no-war-on-russia-disband-nato/)
My fear would be that Putin would then invade the Eastern Bloc nations. I don't think this was ever really so much to do about NATO, that was most likely the pretext for Invasion along with the Donbass. I think this was more about Russia extending its influence. Apparently the Kremlin has said that they have no intention of occupying Ukraine earlier today so I think we are looking at regime change here along with other agreements and of course likely done land annexed by Russia. Russian troops are already moving in on Kiev and about to encircle it as I predicted:
http://www.ft.com/content/5b423554-6ce9-49fe-b74c-da41298b565f#post-88d734c6-53d9-4cad-b1f4-f8f353d74e07
I think Zelensky is already yesterday's man. He has little time left and he is issuing proclamations of a mobilization of the population that will occur within 90 days. There's no way Ukraine will last anywhere near that long, there's days at most. It will probably be pretty much done within 3-4 days from now I reckon.
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s. I think this was more about Russia extending its influence. f8f353d74e07
..or at least shunt the US from using its money and clout on this side of the planet to further push Russia into a worse position.
Fathertime!
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My fear would be that Putin would then invade the Eastern Bloc nations. I don't think this was ever really so much to do about NATO, that was most likely the pretext for Invasion along with the Donbass. I think this was more about Russia extending its influence. Apparently the Kremlin has said that they have no intention of occupying Ukraine earlier today so I think we are looking at regime change here along with other agreements and of course likely done land annexed by Russia. Russian troops are already moving in on Kiev and about to encircle it as I predicted:
Whatever Putin, or any other Russian leader, will or will not do had long come and gone. NATO was formed as a counter to the cold war's Warsaw Pact Alliance. The cold war is over, the soviet regime is gone and the Warsaw Pack Alliance had been long disbanded.
NATO should've been disbanded along with the dissolution of the soviet union. NATO had since only become a beast feeding upon itself and serving but a handful military elitists and uses it to market its arsenal of weapons.
Every European nations should be left alone to attend its own cultural and political direction without any further US engagement. I am sick and tired of the US's recent foreign policies pacifying every corporate greed or of those of the so-called alliance. It's all BS. Europe can look after its own and push their own sons and daughters on the frontline of these silly conflicts.
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Whatever Putin, or any other Russian leader, will or will not do had long come and gone. NATO was formed as a counter to the cold war's Warsaw Pact Alliance. The cold war is over, the soviet regime is gone and the Warsaw Pack Alliance had been long disbanded.
NATO should've been disbanded along with the dissolution of the soviet union. NATO had since only become a beast feeding upon itself and serving but a handful military elitists and uses it to market its arsenal of weapons.
Every European nations should be left alone to attend its own cultural and political direction without any further US engagement. I am sick and tired of the US's recent foreign policies pacifying every corporate greed or of those of the so-called alliance. It's all BS. Europe can look after its own and push their own sons and daughters on the frontline of these silly conflicts.
In fairness I was arguing back last Summer that the time for NATO may have passed. Really I agree the EU should have stepped up to the plate and organised it's own military defence force. It's on its border this is all happening. I think the AUKUS Alliance we struck last Summer is a better strategic alliance that reflects our relative position. No point like you say in having to fight battles that are not on our doorstep. So I do think that NATO kind of ended up carrying the EU at something they should have been doing. Unfortunately it looks too late now, NATO are going to have to remain so long until (if ever) the ineffectual EU can get it's act together and cobble together an army.
Ever EU member state has an army but the best is probably France. I think Germany need to get over their two lost World Wars and build a strong army again, they'll be crucial if the Russians ever try to push further into Eastern Europe, get some good Nazis on our side lol.
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You mean, like patriots wiping their asses with the Constitution? 8)
Less than the leftists have been doing for the past 50 years. :deadhorse:
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NATO should've been disbanded along with the dissolution of the soviet union. NATO had since only become a beast feeding upon itself and serving but a handful military elitists and uses it to market its arsenal of weapons.
Having dozens of nations aligning against Russia would make them uncomfortable and rightfully so. Having nations like the US try to impose it's will so close to Russia must also be aggravating.
If the US thinks it can force regime change, then Russia may start to feel the same way, and use the same strategies to the extent they can. First the US will try to starve countries out (Cuba, Venezuela) good examples. That has been failing, maybe while Russia stomps over Ukraine the US will try to stomp a bit on Venezuela or something. We (The US) have had the luxury to use finances to ruin a nation, Russia doesn't have that weapon in it's arsenal and takes care of matters differently.
Fathertime!
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This is apparently the jet of the ace Ukraine pilot nicknamed "The Ghost of Kyiv" who downed SIX Russian aircraft during the first day of fighting.
[/size]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjbr6qhGPA
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Heavy fighting in Sumy taking place.
Ukraine claims to have shot down a Russian aircraft over Kiev....they certainly shot something down and it sadly fell into an apartment building.
Russian troops were landed on an airfield by Helicopters just outside Kiev in an attempt at taking over Kiev quickly,but the Ukrainian forces defeated them after regaining the airfield.
Ukraine now has more Stinger Missiles....given by Latvia two days ago...that's what defeated Russia in Afghanistan.
For the Brits among us...Norwich City Hall has lit up in the colours of Ukraine as a display of support for Ukraine.
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Heavy fighting in Sumy taking place.
Ukraine claims to have shot down a Russian aircraft over Kiev....they certainly shot something down and it sadly fell into an apartment building.
Russian troops were landed on an airfield by Helicopters just outside Kiev in an attempt at taking over Kiev quickly,but the Ukrainian forces defeated them after regaining the airfield.
Ukraine now has more Stinger Missiles....given by Latvia two days ago...that's what defeated Russia in Afghanistan.
For the Brits among us...Norwich City Hall has lit up in the colours of Ukraine as a display of support for Ukraine.
Apparently Kyiv has been intercepting missile attacks also. I'm quite surprised Ukraine seems to be doing so well in the air where they were considered weak. Not sure if they are doing as well on the ground yet. I expected a but more heavier air attacks by Russia before they moved in ground troops but Russia seems to be moving in ground troops and relying more on that instead. If those NLAW's work then Ukraine needs to start using them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60517447
Sumy under attack and Kyiv coming under attack also.
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This is apparently the jet of the ace Ukraine pilot nicknamed "The Ghost of Kyiv" who downed SIX Russian aircraft during the first day of fighting.
[/size]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjbr6qhGPA
If Ukraine really have an Ace jet fighter pilot who did that then that's what they really need at this pressing hour. Difficult to believe that one pilot can shoot down 6 enemy planes especially as Russia is thought to have the much stronger airforce.
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Looks like he's doing a victory fly-past there. :)
By the way Ukraine has better tanks than Russia has..although less of them.
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Apparently Kyiv has been intercepting missile attacks also. I'm quite surprised Ukraine seems to be doing so well in the air where they were considered weak. Not sure if they are doing as well on the ground yet. I expected a but more heavier air attacks by Russia before they moved in ground troops but Russia seems to be moving in ground troops and relying more on that instead. If those NLAW's work then Ukraine needs to start using them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60517447 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60517447)
Sumy under attack and Kyiv coming under attack also.
If Russia's aircraft are indeed being shot down as claimed then Putin will have to abandon air attacks and rely on his ground troops...carnage awaits them i suspect.
Many people thought this would be a quick battle,but watching the news outlets this morning people are now saying it's going to be a long and bloody war as the Ukrainians are holding their ground and fighting...as i predicted they would.
A former USA Ambassador to Ukraine said this morning that if Ukraine holds off Russia for three months then Russia will be defeated.
Demonstrations all over Russia now in fifty cities against the war,with 2000 arrests yesterday...the Russian people are not with Mad Vlad.
There is a lot of misinformation going on though ...Russia claims Ukrainian forces in Sumy downed their weapons and surrendered....Ukraine claims their troops are holding off the Russian troops...which is true ?
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Ukrainian flag now being flown over Downing street alongside the Union flag after the building was lit up in Ukraine's colours last night.
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The ghost of Kyiv shot down 2 SU-35's,1 SU-27,1 MIG-29 and 2 SU-25's it's claimed.
Ben Wallace this morning says the Russians have failed to take ANY of their objectives so far.
He confirms Russia has had more than 450 military personnel killed on the first day of fighting.,.with many Tanks,Helicopters and at least three Fighter aircraft lost.
It was Spetznaz special forces...Russia's elite troops..that the Ukrainian troops routed at the airfield near Kiev...as confirmed by Ben Wallace.
Pro-Russians separatists have admitted they're meeting stiff resistance from Ukrainian troops in eastern Ukraine.
There seems to be a groundswell of public opinion,including from our media,that we should be sending troops in to support Ukraine....unlike in previous wars when we HAVE sent troops in.
No doubt the bravery and calmness of the Ukrainian people coming onto our news channels and talking is garnering UK public support for us sending troops in.
Brits don't like being threatened either...as Putin did yesterday
Ben Wallace looked flustered when pushed by the BBC this morning about putting our boots on the ground,whilst saying it won't happen.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/
This is a reddit sub forum...... Warning!! It has very graphic footage that you won’t see in main stream media..... The most shocking personally isn’t the most graphic, but if true constitutes a war crime..... A Russian tank deviates from its course to target and drive over top of a moving civilian car.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/
This is a reddit sub forum...... Warning!! It has very graphic footage that you won’t see in main stream media..... The most shocking personally isn’t the most graphic, but if true constitutes a war crime..... A Russian tank deviates from its course to target and drive over top of a moving civilian car.
That's interesting to see how things are shaping up on the ground Davo, helps to fill out the picture a but more from the news networks. Looks like both sides are suffering casualties, the Ukrainian casualties were expected but the Russian casualties unexpected. For the looks of things Russia has been losing armour and tanks, about 30 tanks so far apparently and it's still early days, many artillery loses too. Looks to be that the Russians are going about the invasion in a clumsy manner by using the old skool method of trying to take over towns and cities on the ground and going directly in. To my mind they would have been better of encircling them from a distance and cutting them off.
Russian troops have entered the northern suburbs of Kiev again using the same ham handed approach. It looks like as a result it's turning into a longer and bloodier affair. In the video on that Reddit forum the signs of devastation of shelled out buildings can clearly be seen. If it carries on at that rate Ukraine will be a shelled out mess within a few days. Potentially this could turn into a drawn out affair grinding down the Russians but wreaking havoc on Ukraine.
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That's interesting to see how things are shaping up on the ground Davo, helps to fill out the picture a but more from the news networks. Looks like both sides are suffering casualties, the Ukrainian casualties were expected but the Russian casualties unexpected. For the looks of things Russia has been losing armour and tanks, about 30 tanks so far apparently and it's still early days, many artillery loses too. Looks to be that the Russians are going about the invasion in a clumsy manner by using the old skool method of trying to take over towns and cities on the ground and going directly in. To my mind they would have been better of encircling them from a distance and cutting them off.
Russian troops have entered the northern suburbs of Kiev again using the same ham handed approach. It looks like as a result it's turning into a longer and bloodier affair. In the video on that Reddit forum the signs of devastation of shelled out buildings can clearly be seen. If it carries on at that rate Ukraine will be a shelled out mess within a few days. Potentially this could turn into a drawn out affair grinding down the Russians but wreaking havoc on Ukraine.
Ham-handed is the right word.
There's never been anything smart or sophisticated about Russia at war.
"Bash and smash "like a load of Cavemen, is their method of operation.
The 2000 protesters in Russia arrested yesterday have been charged with treason.
They'll probably be sent to the salt mines in Siberia by Mad Vlad.
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Good news the EU is now going to freeze the assets of Mad Vlad and his henchman Lavrov in Europe. :)
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More good sites:
http://u24.ua/
http://fakty.com.ua/ua/
The occupier suffers significant losses. The headquarters of the Ground Forces of Ukraine reported new data on the number of dead invaders who invaded the territory of Ukraine on February 24. As reported on the Facebook page of the headquarters, this figure is already more than a thousand (http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/takih-poter-u-rf-eshche-ne-bylo-vsu-nazvali-kolichestvo-pogibshih-okkupantov-1605264.html) .
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The Talibans are now calling for seizure of hostilities and maintain peace with Ukraine and Russia. They are very concerned for civilian lives. :o
http://www.newsweek.com/taliban-calls-russia-ukraine-peace-fear-civilians-afghanistan-1682616?amp=1
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For the moment the full-scale invasion hasn't started yet.
This is just a special operation.
But as Ukraine resists more casualties and destruction will come.
Urban warfare will push more civilians into the casualties column and will force RF to bring more military power into action.
Consequently more losses... Loop.
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The Talibans are now calling for seizure of hostilities and maintain peace with Ukraine and Russia. They are very concerned for civilian lives. :o
http://www.newsweek.com/taliban-calls-russia-ukraine-peace-fear-civilians-afghanistan-1682616?amp=1 (http://www.newsweek.com/taliban-calls-russia-ukraine-peace-fear-civilians-afghanistan-1682616?amp=1)
Incredible!
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One of the funnier cartoons I've seen.
I'm going to have to try greeting clients in that position at my shop.
I wouldn't recommend it.
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The Talibans are now calling for seizure of hostilities and maintain peace with Ukraine and Russia. They are very concerned for civilian lives.
Isn't a seizure when someone falls down and starts shaking and stuff?
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Some robotic bloke from the Russian military just said Russian troops took that airfield outside Kiev yesterday ,killing 200 Ukrainian troops and suffering no casualties.
I find those figures highly unlikely and the Russians have shown themselves to be liars.
Both countries can be frugal with the truth...so who knows what is true and what is false.
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Isn't a seizure when someone falls down and starts shaking and stuff?
Yes it is. Whacha expect, it’s 5 AM and haven’t had my smoothie. :P
Hillary Clinton had come out blaming Trump for the current fate of Ukraine. Now, that’s what I call an alternate reality.
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I very much doubt that Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was still President of the USA.
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That short video of the "ghost of Kyiv " has been shown to be false by the BBC.
A lot of the video's out there of the war in Ukraine are false,although the one of the Russian tank deliberately crushing the car with the motorist still inside was true.
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Good news the EU is now going to freeze the assets of Mad Vlad and his henchman Lavrov in Europe. :)
I'm not sure if what you stated is accurate, but I would say that isn't good news. We (The US) started freezing Japanese assets prior to pearl harbor. Japan considered it an act of war.
Fathertime!
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Less than the leftists have been doing for the past 50 years. :deadhorse:
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It must be eating your insides that these "leftists" are the only ones fighting to preserve the constitution and democracy. 8)
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I'm not sure if what you stated is accurate, but I would say that isn't good news. We (The US) started freezing Japanese assets prior to pearl harbor. Japan considered it an act of war.
Fathertime!
Just been confirmed on the BBC.
It's also in the Financial Times and Forbes.
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Apparently, the battle to gain control of Kiev by the Ruskies may well go down like this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10551463/Russian-plan-Kyiv-revealed-intelligence.html
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Russian prisoner in Kharkiv confessing commander ordered to shoot civilians.
http://www.facebook.com/1001283403/videos/657971581973233/
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Unfortunately, the US these days have but a few, reliable journalists for the public to get unvarnished reliable news and reports. Hell, even social media driven by the big tech are highly unreliable.
So if any of the news outlet/s outside of the US have current reports about any NATO ally (aside from the US of course) had actually, or is beginning to, sent their nation's young further into eastern Europe to reinforce member nations closest to the hostilities. Do oblige.
For the life of me. all that's reported here in the US is sleepy Joe sending thousands of US troops to eastern Europe, but I don't see reports of France, Belgium, the UK, doing the same. I know a month or so ago, the UK did consider sending maybe a hundred, but that was before the invasion.
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So the alliance, after months of declaring there will be serious and severe economic sanction will be levied upon Russia if it ever invade Ukraine, most notably - depriving Russia from usage of SWIFT.
Now that the chicken had come to roost, it's evident that was merely a giant bluff. Germany and Belgium would much prefer preserving their nation's economic state than to administer their loyalty to the 'unity of an alliance'.
Interesting. Money still trumps integrity.
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So the alliance, after months of declaring there will be serious and severe economic sanction will be levied upon Russia if it ever invade Ukraine, most notably - depriving Russia from usage of SWIFT.
Now that the chicken had come to roost, it's evident that was merely a giant bluff. Germany and Belgium would much prefer preserving their nation's economic state than to administer their loyalty to the 'unity of an alliance'.
Interesting. Money still trumps integrity.
SWIFT is a lot more to that. All nations (about 11,000 financial institutions) rely on SWIFT. In addition, SWIFT is NOT governed by anyone, it is an agreement between institutions.
Let's say that the majority of these institutions agree to deny Russia, which they can't. Russia has their own version of SWIFT, albeit not that efficient (for many reasons.) This would strengthen Russia's SWIFT which would undermine the West's ability to do finance. Not a good thing. Except for those who would love to see this country go to hell. And I'm not talking about the Russians or Chinese. :P
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http://fb.watch/boPDzznZ5a/ (http://fb.watch/boPDzznZ5a/) (Warning: very graphic)
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SWIFT is a lot more to that. All nations (about 11,000 financial institutions) rely on SWIFT. In addition, SWIFT is NOT governed by anyone, it is an agreement between institutions.
Let's say that the majority of these institutions agree to deny Russia, which they can't. Russia has their own version of SWIFT, albeit not that efficient (for many reasons.) This would strengthen Russia's SWIFT which would undermine the West's ability to do finance. Not a good thing. Except for those who would love to see this country go to hell. And I'm not talking about the Russians or Chinese. :P
Then one wonders why even table this as a major part of their planned sanctioning tool? Report had it that Germany stood to lose as much as 150 Billion dollars if they did in fact complied to it. Sleepy Joe yesterday, when asked why, simply said 'we we're asked not to include this as part of the package (sanction)'. Did they not realize the fallacy using this as a threat against Russia?
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Why don't you ask that at your next WH intelligence briefing?
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Why don't you ask that at your next WH intelligence briefing?
Well I thought this was a reason you rode along as a call for cavalry?
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Update so far:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10550799/Ukraine-hits-airfield-Russia-missile-strike-blow-Putin-downing-six-helicopters.html
Looks like Putin's troops are sustaining a lot of losses. Ukraine some as well but it looks like Russia moreso. Apparently Russian troops are in a Kyivian suburb five miles north of the city centre. Whether the Russian advance will ground to a halt before it reaches the city centre who knows but they seem to be making slow progress. Many Russian helicopters and planes shot down and many Russian tanks destroyed with the anti tank rocket launchers the US & UK gave them.
All in all I kind of expected the Russian forces to go about it differently than this. They knew the Ukrainians had been given anti tank stuff yet they thrust all of their tanks and artillery in the line of fire when to my mind they should have thrown all their air power at them first then encircled the cities and cut of supply routes. To my mind there just doesn't seem any real thought or much planning at all by the Russians they just seem to think they can overpower the Ukrainians by brute force. I'm just not sure what the Russians are doing with all of their army whether they are throwing all they've got against the Ukrainians. If the Ukrainians can keep holding out against the Russians then who knows.
At least it's good to see the equipment we gave them paying off, if they can grind the Russians down enough it might be enough to put the Russians off.
Putin meanwhile is trying to get the Ukrainian military to overthrow Zelensky. Whether this is his signal to those within Ukraine that are willing to work with the Russians to jump into action or just desperation who knows, we'll find out soon I guess.
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they ran out of fuel...
http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/ukraina-otstoyala-konotop-okkupant-pones-sokrushitelnye-poteri-1605362.html (http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/ukraina-otstoyala-konotop-okkupant-pones-sokrushitelnye-poteri-1605362.html)
NATO to supply air defense systems
http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/nato-soglasheniya-s-rossiey-bolshe-ne-rabotayut-ukraine-predostavim-sistemy-pvo-1605360.html (http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/nato-soglasheniya-s-rossiey-bolshe-ne-rabotayut-ukraine-predostavim-sistemy-pvo-1605360.html)
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Sky news interviewing Russians in Moscow tonight ..and they're saying for the first time in their lives they feel ashamed to be Russian..except for one old bat who said the reporter was lying about Kiev and Kharkiv being bombed by Russia.
Once again Mad Vlad pleading with the Ukrainian troops to turn on their drug-taking neo Nazi :rolleyes: President...the response was injured Ukrainian troops in hospitals saying they're going to get out of their beds to fight the Russians again.
Russia has so far failed to take any major Ukraine cities.
Interestingly China didn't support Russia in the UN Security Council vote just now...seems they could be turning their back on Mad Vlad.
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Kyivians bracing themselves for an all out assault on their Capital tonight by Russian troops. They've basically got to throw the lot at them and hope they can hold the Russians off from reaching the city centre and taking Kyiv. If they can do that then there's a chance they can hold them off for quite some time. We'll see later in the morning how it went.
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Kyivians bracing themselves for an all out assault on their Capital tonight by Russian troops. They've basically got to throw the lot at them and hope they can hold the Russians off from reaching the city centre and taking Kyiv. If they can do that then there's a chance they can hold them off for quite some time. We'll see later in the morning how it went.
I don't see a circumstance where Russia doesn't get what they want. They will just ramp up further and further to whatever point is necessary to reach their goal. If that is the case, life is going to become worse and worse for the Ukrainians that do battle.
Another speculation is the harder they have to work and lose lives, the more they are going to decide ultimately take. I don't know what their end game is at this point.
My neighbor came up to me today with a solution, he said the US should give Russia 12 hours to surrender or we carpet bomb all their troops. I just listened and thought to myself I'm glad he isn't in charge.
Fathertime!
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I don't see a circumstance where Russia doesn't get what they want. They will just ramp up further and further to whatever point is necessary to reach their goal. If that is the case, life is going to become worse and worse for the Ukrainians that do battle.
Another speculation is the harder they have to work and lose lives, the more they are going to decide ultimately take. I don't know what their end game is at this point.
My neighbor came up to me today with a solution, he said the US should give Russia 12 hours to surrender or we carpet bomb all their troops. I just listened and thought to myself I'm glad he isn't in charge.
Fathertime!
I think you're right on all of that FT, Russia can keep pulling troops and sending them to the Ukrainian front, they can call up conscripts although I doubt how willing and like you say if it ends up a bloody tough long fight then Russia will want to take more as a result. Only possible upside is possible Russia is using its best forces on this and leaving the rest behind on guard duty until needing to be brought to the Ukrainian Front. That would make sense and historically how the Russian Army has been composed back to WWI at least, some good troops then a lot who aren't but they bulk out the Russian Army in numbers to make it look impressive statistically. If sone of their best troops are having a hard time if it and losses are mounting then their not so good troops are likely to fair even worse.
The Ukrainians still no doubt have a lot of Russian troops to chew through but on the plus side they haven't been taking greater losses particularly as it seems so they can afford to fight on longer. If Ukraine gets shelled out bad then Russia may not wish to take so much of it on that front. I think that potentially if Ukraine can keep fighting the way they have been and keep it up long term then Russia will start to strain under the weight of it all and they'll look to quit/get rid of Putin. The way this is going Ukraine could quite easily end up the new Lebanon.
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We have been texted with relatives in Kyiv. Internet and electricity are intermittent. Our relatives live in what is considered central Kyiv, though not in our understanding of the centre, it's about 15 minutes from Khreshchatyk. The live between an airport and a rail centre. There has been bombing and shooting. The air is filled with smoke, and the shooting has been going on for over a day. Children in the building are crying. They've been told to stay indoors, and keep lights off. It's very bad.
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Wife owns two condominium (called apartments there) units in Kyiv.
One rented out and other occupied by a relative family.
Relative woman and children have gone further west to stay with grandparents.
Relative man has joined volunteer Ukrainian army and will bear the brunt of Russian attack from Belarus.
Two of wife's friends here are from Romania and they have told that their families in Romania will take in her family if they want to come over there.
Quite great of them, but no immediate plans to take them up on that offer.
Apparently it takes a couple of days to get through the border anyway.
If her condo units are destroyed, that will be around 650K USD.
Maybe the most expensive one will be spared as it's in second building away from US Embassy. Don't think Putin will want to hit it; but anything can happen (falling aircraft), etc.
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The former world heavy weight champion Vitali Klitschko,now Mayor of Kyiv, has said there are no Russian troops in Kiev and that Russian troops tried to enter Kiev last night and were "neutralised".
Many Ukrainian men who've been living outside Ukraine are now driving back to Ukraine to fight the invading Russians.
Big protests against Putin taking place all around the World.
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An attack in Kharkiv has been repelled, RF didn't enter the city.
Dnipro has not suffered from attack in the west part.
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Woke up this morning to see that Kiev had survived the night and repelled Russian attempts to further enter the city. One of the more modern looking apartment blocks looking the worse for wear though with part of its midsection blown out. If things keep up like this Kyiv will soon be looking like Beirut, all they would need is for Kate Adie to put in a long overdue appearance.
Looks like Putin is now threatening Finland & Sweden. Putin seems to have gotten very arrogant no doubt after getting his way in Russia all these years by crushing dissent. If I were Finland & Sweden I would put in an application to join NATO today and stick their finger up to Putin. Putin is nothing more than a bully boy who thinks he can push everyone around.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10553723/Putin-turns-attention-Finland-Sweden-Kremlin-official-warns-nations.html
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Putin running out of missiles?
"Putin is fierce. He was sure that it would be an easy walk. There are not enough missiles. Enough for three or four days - the ceiling. They are protected. There are no weapons. The Tula plant and the other two plants of (oligarch) Rotenberg cannot fulfill orders for weapons. Rifles and bullets. Physically. There are not enough weapons. The next weapon can really be received in three or four months. And then there are no raw materials. Previously, supplies were from Slovenia mainly, Finland and Germany. They are now blocked , " says Goncharenko.
http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/putin-lyutuet-u-rf-zakanchivayutsya-rakety-i-oruzhie-1605445.html
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27 countries,including the USA and UK have agreed to send more military aid,including lethal weapons, to Ukraine,including Germany who are sending 400 RPG's.
A couple of human stories : An attractive blond lady lawyer in her thirties in Kiev has armed herself with the full intension of killing Russian troops.
The newscasters "Aren't you afraid "?
Her " It's not important how my story ends..what's important is that Ukraine is a free country ".
A young Ukrainian lady living in the UK has just received a phone call from her Afghan veteran father to tell her that he's got her mother and sister to the Polish border and they're safe.
Him " Now i go back to Kiev "
Her " Why "?
Him " To fight the invading Russian troops "
Her " But dad you're 61 and you can barely walk..how can you fight "?
Him " Then i'll crawl and fight "
The girl then breaks down in tears ,while the newscasters are in bits :'(
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You're fired!
http://world.segodnya.ua/world/russia/provalil-vtorzhenie-putin-snyal-nachalnika-genshtaba-nardep-1605502.html
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Riho Terras the former Estonian Defence Chief has received intel from a Ukrainian Officer about a meeting in Putin's lair in the Urals.Oligarch's convened there so no one would flee.
Putin is furious .he thought that the whole war would be easy and everything would be done in 1-4 days.
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Massive queues in Kiev now ,lining up for AK47's,including loads of hotties.
Sky talked to one of the blond hotties who's from Dnipro.
"At first we were scared but now we want to fight....fight like hell " she said.
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Zelensky wants Ukraine to join the EU immediately and for the EU to cut Russia off on the Swift payment system but gets VETOED on both. Joining the EU I can understand since an attack on one is considered an attack on all so would push the EU into war, plus Ukraine's economy is now way too messed up for the EU to take them on especially with the EU's current economic woes.
The Swift payment system I think the EU are dead wrong to Veto at least those member states that did. As the Latvian PM rightly said some people are concerned about losing a bit of their money while other people are losing their lives. Tend to find that in these situations I think that while some people are sacrificing their lives other people are ignorant to that and don't want to help out in the slightest.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10554837/President-Zelensky-pushes-Ukraine-join-EU-day-Russian-invasion.html
UK & the PM are right behind Ukraine and Boris backs a ban on Swift payments for Russia and rightly so.
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Massive queues in Kiev now ,lining up for AK47's,including loads of hotties.
Sky talked to one of the blond hotties who's from Dnipro.
"At first we were scared but now we want to fight....fight like hell " she said.
My suspicion is that these hotties may just be using it to pose for their instawhore pics, lol.
Seriously though I doubt if any will end up on the front line, they'll probably be assigned behind the lines sentry duty stuff where they can pose it up some more.
From the reports the gun shops are doing a brisk trade with queuing out the door. That's those who can get their hands on a free one I guess. Arms dealers no doubt cleaning up from all of this.
With the main bulk of Russia's army now approaching Kiev it looks like it's going to amount to a fierce show down. I think many Kyivians have been buoyed on by seeing that the Russian Army can be stopped and now many people are joining in on the fight. That gives Ukraine a good fighting chance of survival. If they can grind the Russian advance to a halt, bog it down and demoralise it by robbing Putin of a quick victory then I think a lot of heart will go out of the Russian occupiers.
Taking out as much of Russia's Armour, Artillery and Airforce will degrade their ability a lot and that's where Russia could end up bogged down in a war where it ends up losing any chance of advancing. Next few days could see some real heavy fighting in Ukraine I reckon.
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This report from Mariupol of Ukrainian Soldiers gives a good account of the realities of war I think. Doesn't look like any amputees here but some quiet badly injured and of course that can happen:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-invasion-horrific-day-at-hospital-treating-injured-soldiers-in-mariupol-as-doctors-appeal-for-more-nato-help-12551535
I recall a while back, a few years ago that one poster here told us about a Ukrainian guy who lost a leg in the conflict in the East of Ukraine. He ended up unemployed and homeless with little in the way of economic support from the Ukrainian State. It's why I think decisions on what to do by those in Ukraine need to be considered carefully as joining to fight can have bad consequences for the individual, that said I think a lot of Ukrainians are going to have to stand up and fight if they are going to win this one. Ukrainians all cowering in basements, apartments or fleeing for the border isn't going to win it fir them.
The Ukrainian Soldiers in the video seemed to be thinking that they can't hold out much longer, a few more days or so. They're calling on NATO, the EU etc that they hoped to join but didn't to come to their aid. I personally don't believe either made any promises or commitments. I personally think it was Ukrainians who set themselves on a path to join without first making sure they had anything solid from either that they could join, a timeframe, etc. I believe that Ukraine put too much stock in joining either or both of these organisations without much to go on and that was the fault of the Ukrainian government on their part. I don't know about other Forum members but while I support Ukraine's cause I don't believe we should get directly involved as it really is their fight rather than ours. I think we should stand with Ukraine in supplying weapons, aid and sanctions but it really is down to them at the end of the day for as many of them as feel they wish to, to take up arms and fight their fight.
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My suspicion is that these hotties may just be using it to pose for their instawhore pics, lol.
Seriously though I doubt if any will end up on the front line, they'll probably be assigned behind the lines sentry duty stuff where they can pose it up some more.
Or they might be the next
Lyudmila Pavlichenko.
Ukrainian women aren't exactly wall flowers TC.
If the makeup and high heels throws you ,remember those can change in less than a few minutes.
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Or they might be the next
Lyudmila Pavlichenko.
Ukrainian women aren't exactly wall flowers TC.
If the makeup and high heels throws you ,remember those can change in less than a few minutes.
While not all Ukrainian girls are pretty I think there are a higher than average amount of them are compared to the UK. Now don't get me wrong UK girls would pull the same stunt posing for their Instagram page in military fatigues then either end up in a passive role or scarper, so much for gender equality lol.
In any case at the moment I think those board members who have Russian partners are in hiding from this board, maybe we should ask Dan if he can rename this forum Ukrainian Women Discussion instead ;D
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In any case at the moment I think those board members who have Russian partners are in hiding from this board, maybe we should ask Dan if he can rename this forum Ukrainian Women Discussion instead ;D
GQBlues is still posting..so not all the board members with Russian partners are in hiding.
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Zelensky wants Ukraine to join the EU immediately and for the EU to cut Russia off on the Swift payment system but gets VETOED on both. Joining the EU I can understand since an attack on one is considered an attack on all so would push the EU into war, plus Ukraine's economy is now way too messed up for the EU to take them on especially with the EU's current economic woes.
The Swift payment system I think the EU are dead wrong to Veto at least those member states that did. As the Latvian PM rightly said some people are concerned about losing a bit of their money while other people are losing their lives. Tend to find that in these situations I think that while some people are sacrificing their lives other people are ignorant to that and don't want to help out in the slightest.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10554837/President-Zelensky-pushes-Ukraine-join-EU-day-Russian-invasion.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10554837/President-Zelensky-pushes-Ukraine-join-EU-day-Russian-invasion.html)
UK & the PM are right behind Ukraine and Boris backs a ban on Swift payments for Russia and rightly so.
The EU.UK,USA and Canada are now stopping selected Russian Banks from using SWIFT.
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Well,my point was not about relative appearances,it was that the women from Ukraine specifically have stood out in the past in times of war in combat roles.
Back when in the west it was not even permitted.
To think that some today within the crucible of war wouldn't be up to the task because they are attractive is funny thinking.
They have as much to lose as anyone there and their past shows a willingness and ability to fight well.
Out of millions of UW, recruit 614 Lyudmilas and you just took out 190,000 oppostion forces ..
While completely unrealistic to actually occur ,let her skill and courage under fire in two of the worlds more bloody battles sink in.
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While not all Ukrainian girls are pretty I think there are a higher than average amount of them are compared to the UK.
I'd dispute that.
I've only visited Kiev and i wasn't overly impressed with the beauty of the women there during the daytime...you'd see far more beauties in London walking round during the day.
Granted i didn't see any fat young women like you see here in Britain..but seriously only a couple of women caught my eye as stunners in the three days i was there.
I remember a forum member on here or another forum had the same issue in Odessa..he plaintively asked "where are all the hotties i keep hearing about" ?
That Ukrainian Anastasia date blonde girl who was scamming the black guy on 90 Day Fiance is a typical example...when i first saw her instagram photo's and the video she sent him on his phone my first reaction was ..she's hot.
But then when i saw her in a coffee shop with two of her friends in a later episode ..without all her war paint on..i thought naahhh i don't fancy any of them.
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I'd dispute that.
I've only visited Kiev and i wasn't overly impressed with the beauty of the women there during the daytime...you'd see far more beauties in London walking round during the day.
Granted i didn't see any fat young women like you see here in Britain..but seriously only a couple of women caught my eye as stunners in the three days i was there.
I remember a forum member on here or another forum had the same issue in Odessa..he plaintively asked "where are all the hotties i keep hearing about" ?
That Ukrainian Anastasia date blonde girl who was scamming the black guy on 90 Day Fiance is a typical example...when i first saw her instagram photo's and the video she sent him on his phone my first reaction was ..she's hot.
But then when i saw her in a coffee shop with two of her friends in a later episode ..without all her war paint on..i thought naahhh i don't fancy any of them.
Most of them are in expansive SUV or have already moved out. So you don't see them in the streets. Or they go some expensive restaurants or sports clubs you have barely any chance to know.
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Wife tells that Ukraine has started a new tactic to try to get through to the Russian people what the Russian army is doing in Ukraine.
Captured Russian soldiers are forced to make video call to their parents in Russia and tell them that they are in Ukraine and have been captured.
Parents are stunned in that they say they didn't know their son was there and even that Russia was attacking Ukraine.
Let's hope these parents can spread the word.
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Apparently there are growing protests in Russia about the invasion of Ukraine.
Let's hope these stories are true.
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Where is the Russian version of Claus von Stauffenberg now that he/she is needed ?
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Apparently there are growing protests in Russia about the invasion of Ukraine.
Let's hope these stories are true.
I read that all protests are banned.
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Where is the Russian version of Claus von Stauffenberg now that he/she is needed ?
We can only hope!!!!
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GQBlues is still posting..so not all the board members with Russian partners are in hiding.
GQ you need to go into hiding ;)
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I read that all protests are banned.
Well sure, but they are happening.
420 arrested in Moscow today.
Question is: Just how much they will grow.
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I don't think they will unless a significant number of Russian soldiers start coming home in body bags.
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GQ you need to go into hiding ;)
Hiding?!? Wifey and I went along with friends and stood4Ukraine at a rally along Sta Monica Blvd. in West Hollywood today. It was a darn cold 68 degrees today too. I’d hazard to guess half of the people there are actually Russian. WHolly is a very strong FSU community in LA.
Part of me is so glad the Ukrainians are holding back the assault, but I pray this doesn’t cause madVlad to give the order to go on seek and destroy anything and everything. Hard to say it, but I think Zelensky is a dead man walking. I hope not, but much respect whether he lives or dies.
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68F, brrrrr
Ok.i needed a laugh today, thanks
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I had never heard of this guy Smerconish before, but apparently he asks the 'question of the day' on his program.
A friend sent me this about his question today.
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This morning (Sat 2/26) Smerconish's poll question was:
"Should NATO go to war for Ukraine?"
The results were jaw-dropping.
Over 38,000 responses (usually he gets <half of that) with 77% saying yes and 23% no!
Smerconish was gob-smacked that a CNN audience would react that way.
Given the demonstrations in Russia, much less around the world, it looks like a lose/lose situation for Putin. He could well end up like Saddam and Khadafy.
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I don't think they will unless a significant number of Russian soldiers start coming home in body bags.
Figuratively, or literally? You are aware that Russia sent a mobile crematory to Ukraine, right? No need for body bags anymore. If the families are lucky, they will get the ashes of their sons.
I still think we should give Putin a taste of his own medicine.
We should cancel every Russian, Belorussian, and Chechnyan student visa, and give them 24 hours to leave the US or be arrested and put in one of the ICE concentration camps for illegal immigrants. They should also be banned from coming back to the US for 3-5 years. This destroys the possibility of getting a US education.
Anyone with Russian/Belorussian/Chechnyan citizenship should have their visa revoked and immediately deported.
The vast majority of the Russians in US universities are kids of the elites. How many Russian businessmen are in the US? Putin wants regime change? You don't think all those kids and businessmen will be pissed about getting kicked out of the US because of Putin invading Ukraine and starting a war?
Putin says Ukraine was historically Russian. It got created by WWII. What about Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad? It was formerly German, and the USSR got it as a war prize. When the Soviet Union fell apart in '91, Russia got to keep Kaliningrad, because neither Lithuania or Poland claimed it. (Kaliningrad is surrounded by NATO - so much for Putin's claim of keeping NATO from Russia's borders.) Kaliningrad is home to the naval fleet, and is the center of Russian industry. It also houses nuclear weapons that threaten Europe. NATO should have a mass attack on Kaliningrad, and wipe it off the map. Let Putin lose his naval base and Kaliningrad, and see if he doesn't change his tune on Ukraine.
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68F, brrrrr
Ok.i needed a laugh today, thanks
Yes, :ROFL: . When hubby first saw this, after his first full winter here, he was shocked. We lived near the university, and all the Canadian students were in t-shirts and shorts at 0C. Now, he doesn't bat an eye.
It was -3C or 26F here today. Young people were out in t shirts and shorts.
Figuratively, or literally?
I meant figuratively.
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I don’t even know why these guys are fighting (Russian / Ukrainian ). Even in the heat of war, they seem so casual with each other.
Funny, in a strange kind of way.
http://youtu.be/14gVDF2b1vA
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Written in January of this year, this article seems prescient at this point in time .... http://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-possible-invasion-ukraine
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I don't think it would be a good idea for NATO to get involved, it would risk spreading the conflict and NATO possibly having to go onto Russian lands. Then we would be the invader and it could legitimize mad Vlad's claim of the threat of NATO. In addition there would be a string risk of nuclear war and/or hyperthermal missiles being used by Russia.
The situation is best kept as it is localised to Ukraine. If Russia's troops get worn down and defeated there then that will likely bhave consequences for Putin & Russia. It will be seen as a fair cop and Russia will have to come to terms with Ukraine. It's a better position I think for Ukraine to go at it with Russia as after all they are the ones Putin has a beef with. Strategically it's better for us to supply Ukraine with weapons and all it needs to do the fighting. Even if they eventually lose if they put up a string enough fight it will degrade the Russian military and dissuade Russia from further conflicts elsewhere, that depends on the Ukrainians putting up stiff resistance for quite some time though. It really is their fight to my mind I don't buy it that other countries in Europe are next, Georgia & the Stans maybe. In Europe there is NATO and France and the UK have Nukes, the US have Nukes too so with the line drawn in the sand it's too risky for and Vlad to go there. Plus with how badly Russian Armies are doing in Ukraine at present they would be torn to shreds by NATO forces on our home turf. I think Ukraine has got this one and they'll have to fight their corner.
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Kharkiv being attacked today, oil refinery & gas pipeline hit, lots of fire & smoke.
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Trench, where's your balls? You need to go find them, because you aren't wearing them.
That attitude is like seeing a woman getting raped, and not wanting to get involved because you might have to fight with the rapist. Grow a pair.
A lady just sent me a video from an apartment window. Russian tanks rolling down the street in Kyiv right now, and someone shooting at them with a rifle.
If NATO was there, they would have anti-tank guns to stop the tanks.
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Germany now stepping up..lot's more military aid being sent to Ukraine....1000 anti-tank weapons and 500 Stinger missiles.
They've also stopped the ban on third parties sending German manufactured weapons to Ukraine.
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Where is the Russian version of Claus von Stauffenberg now that he/she is needed ?
I think that is the logical solution now.
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Mayor of Kharkiv saying the area of Kharkiv now back in Ukrainian control,with news outlets showing film of a column of abandoned Russian armoured vehicles and Ukrainian troops stripping them out.
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Trench, where's your balls? You need to go find them, because you aren't wearing them.
That attitude is like seeing a woman getting raped, and not wanting to get involved because you might have to fight with the rapist. Grow a pair.
A lady just sent me a video from an apartment window. Russian tanks rolling down the street in Kyiv right now, and someone shooting at them with a rifle.
If NATO was there, they would have anti-tank guns to stop the tanks.
Ah you'll be off to Ukraine to fight as one of the many foreign fighters going there will you Bee Farmer? A 'War Tourist'?
Well it could get you the women if you survive and we've seen the Reddit link on here kindly provided by Davo I think it was of those that don't live to tell the tale. But don't let me stop you, you go if you want to.
I think with NATO you're not seeing the whole picture, sure NATO could destroy a lot of their Army reasonably easily but it doesn't stop there, Russia has chemical, thermal and nuclear weapons and there is no guarantee we can stop them. Russia still has thousands upon thousands of nukes that can destroy the world several times over. We can't be assure that we can stop them all or that they won't reach us to say nothing of the radioactive fallout. At best if we destroy Russia's army we may agree a ceasefire and a resolution bin Ukraine's favour as to press on and try to capture Moscow etc would like make Russia use Nukes and hence MAD. I don't think we really want WWIII with chemical, thermal, etc misery just over Ukraine. Ukraine can fight its own battles.
That battle btw may apparently go on years:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-conflict-could-last-years-and-uk-needs-to-be-prepared-for-a-very-long-haul-says-foreign-secretary-liz-truss-12553040
So visiting Ukraine may be off for us guys and my Odessa Dreaming over. Apparently in the UK we are going to set up an International Force comprised of any of the cowards who fleed Ukraine but might change their mind and send them back in to fight.
With all the weapons now being sent to Ukraine they've got everything they need out there now to put up stiff resistance to the Russians for a long time. They will still need food and water and probably bring money in to live off so it's not certain how it will all go but I think now Ukraine has every fighting chance.
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Russia has lost around 4,300 military personnel and 146 Tanks so far.
BBC are on the Polish border watching the refugees from Ukraine arriving and reported that a large convoy of military aid was seen going the other way.
Ukrainian men who've been working as lorry drivers in Poland going the other way too to fight.
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Russia has lost around 4,300 military personnel and 146 Tanks so far.
Russia has lost 4000 and Ukraine 198. I find that hard to believe, if being reported from western media doesn't lend much credence to its accuracy. If these numbers were accurate, I'd say the battle isn't going well for Russia.
Fathertime!
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We should cancel every Russian, Belorussian, and Chechnyan student visa, and give them 24 hours to leave the US or be arrested and put in one of the ICE concentration camps for illegal immigrants. They should also be banned from coming back to the US for 3-5 years. This destroys the possibility of getting a US education.
Anyone with Russian/Belorussian/Chechnyan citizenship should have their visa revoked and immediately deported.
I said this same thing to my wife a week or so ago.
I would go even further and evict those here with Green Card status.
There are several Russian citizens teaching here at the university with Green Card status.
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I said this same thing to my wife a week or so ago.
I would go even further and evict those here with Green Card status.
There are several Russian citizens teaching here at the university with Green Card status.
Why would we want to take such harsh action against innocents....
Nations might then retaliate and decide to imprison innocent americans living abroad.
I'm not sure I see how this would help but I can see how it would be detrimental.
Fathertime!
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Russia has lost 4000 and Ukraine 198. I find that hard to believe, if being reported from western media doesn't lend much credence to its accuracy. If these numbers were accurate, I'd say the battle isn't going well for Russia.
Fathertime!
I think you're right FT that number can't be accurate, Russian losses more than ten times Ukrainian??? Possibly if Russia transported troops in lorries or tank crews being hit I could see it being a bit higher but more than ten times? Like you say either Ukrainians are understating their loses or they are overstating Russian casualties, maybe both.
I don't think it's going well for Russia but I can't see how it would be going that badly especially when the Russian forces are better equipped and trained supposedly. It may be Ukraine trying to hook the west, NATO into coming to their aid. The news report the other day from the soldiers injured at the hospital in Mariupol kind of tells a bit of a different picture, they were desperate for NATO to intervene and said that Ukraine could possibly only hold out about 8 days or so at best. I personally think it would be a disaster for NATO to get involved, almost certain WWIII and many, many more deaths as a result. Apart from Russia I could see China take the opportunity to invade Taiwan then the nations of the South China Sea then finally Australia due to NATO being distracted with Russia and most of its forces sent there. We would then be in a war with China and hence a world war. To my mind this fight is best kept between Russia & Ukraine, it's their fight and we never promised to come in fighting for Ukraine despite Zelensky's best efforts to try and drag us in.
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Germany now stepping up..lot's more military aid being sent to Ukraine....1000 anti-tank weapons and 500 Stinger missiles.
It makes no sense that Russia would allow these weapons to be transported into Ukraine. Given they have 100's of thousands of men on the ground now, it would seem they could control this sort of weaponry entering a battle zone.
Fathertime!
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After being requested by Ukraine, in an instant, Elon Musk is regarded as a hero in this conflict by moving his Starlink station to Easter Europe. He promised to mobilize and add more stations.
Starlink (http://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1497701484003213317?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1497701484003213317%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-7418522281252376296.ampproject.net%2F2202142035002%2Fframe.html)
Thanks to Germany too for forsaking their domestic needs at this time in favor of Ukraine.
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68F, brrrrr
Ok.i needed a laugh today, thanks
Hah. You’re a Kali boy, you know it may show air temp at 68 but the cold northern wind makes in feel like you’re in the arctic. It felt like a San Francisco summer.
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After being requested by Ukraine, in an instant, Elon Musk is regarded as a hero in this conflict by moving his Starlink station to Easter Europe. He promised to mobilize and add more stations.
He didn't have to move his stations. Starlink satellites are orbiting the planet and ground stations in Lithuania and Poland can serve most of UA. Check starlink.sx What he is sending is small dishes (terminals) used to connect to satellites connected to the internet. I just installed mine the other day. Am waiting to hear if it is possible to pack up and donate mine since I haven't yet cancelled my old service. I'm posting using Starlink now. Portable, fast and stable. A luxury here, but could well be a critical asset somewhere in UA.
(http://i.postimg.cc/rw0RYGTR/Screen-Shot-2022-02-27-at-17-39-59.png)
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Quote from: ML on Today at 10:13:06 AM
I said this same thing to my wife a week or so ago.
I would go even further and evict those here with Green Card status.
There are several Russian citizens teaching here at the university with Green Card status.
Why would we want to take such harsh action against innocents....
Nations might then retaliate and decide to imprison innocent americans living abroad.
I'm not sure I see how this would help but I can see how it would be detrimental.
Two points:
1) You switched from my evicting to your imprisoning.
2) The Russians here are not innocents. I talked with some of the Russian professors here back in 2014 and they said they supported Putin's actions against Ukraine.
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Quote from: ML on Today at 10:13:06 AM
Two points:
1) You switched from my evicting to your imprisoning.
2) The Russians here are not innocents. I talked with some of the Russian professors here back in 2014 and they said they supported Putin's actions against Ukraine.
We should cancel every Russian, Belorussian, and Chechnyan student visa, and give them 24 hours to leave the US or be arrested and put in one of the ICE concentration camps for illegal immigrants. They should also be banned from coming back to the US for 3-5 years. This destroys the possibility of getting a US education.
Anyone with Russian/Belorussian/Chechnyan citizenship should have their visa revoked and immediately deported.
I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply you were talking about prison. You didn't, but bee farmer did.
I'm not sure it would be illegal for professors to support V. Putin and his actions. In some cases, they may simply be attempting to restate his position on the matters. In other cases they restate and completely support Putin. It is probably still legal to do this.
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Ah you'll be off to Ukraine to fight as one of the many foreign fighters going there will you Bee Farmer? A 'War Tourist'?
I think with NATO you're not seeing the whole picture, sure NATO could destroy a lot of their Army reasonably easily but it doesn't stop there, Russia has chemical, thermal and nuclear weapons and there is no guarantee we can stop them. Russia still has thousands upon thousands of nukes that can destroy the world several times over. We can't be assure that we can stop them all or that they won't reach us to say nothing of the radioactive fallout. At best if we destroy Russia's army we may agree a ceasefire and a resolution bin Ukraine's favour as to press on and try to capture Moscow etc would like make Russia use Nukes and hence MAD. I don't think we really want WWIII with chemical, thermal, etc misery just over Ukraine. Ukraine can fight its own battles.
With all the weapons now being sent to Ukraine they've got everything they need out there now to put up stiff resistance to the Russians for a long time. They will still need food and water and probably bring money in to live off so it's not certain how it will all go but I think now Ukraine has every fighting chance.
Anyone with brains knows it's best to use the right tool for the job. I'm not a professional soldier. While it sounds romantic to go over to help fight, the reality is that my Ukrainian isn't good enough for my brains to be of much use, and that leaves being a sniper until my position gets hit with artillery. I realize that I would be better off doing what I do best...which means I may be of more value during the reconstruction process.
Only a complete fool would even consider looking for a wife in Ukraine now. You think scammers were bad before? They are going to come out of the woodwork now. It's going to take years and an enormous amount of money to repair the economy, regardless of how the way ends.
Any decent girl is going to want to stay and help take care of her family now. She's not going to be interested in going to another country with some foreign guy she barely knows. The girls who will be interested in foreign guys are only interested in a mule. They want to escape. They will not be interested in you. As soon as they are out, they will drop you in a heartbeat the moment they have a chance at anything better.
And any girl you find is going to have full blown PTSD after this. Do you realize how much emotional support you are going to have to give her? That's just one big stress factor on top of all the other difficulties of international/intercultural marriages.
I think the only way a man should even consider dating in Ukraine now is if he had already started cultivating a relationship with a girl (and hopefully had met face to face) prior to this war. You might have a chance at being able to continue building a relationship.
You also seem to forget that Russia is not the only country with nuclear weapons or a strong military. You sound like the wimpy coward on the playground who is afraid to stand up to a bully because he might get his butt kicked even worse.
You also don't seem to understand logistics. The moment a country says it is going to send military weapons to Ukraine, that doesn't instantly put the weapons in the fighters hands. It has to get loaded up, sent to Poland, then loaded on trains or trucks, and then transported and distributed to different cities that are currently under attack. Do we even need to mention that the Russian military will be doing everything they can to stop the flow of supplies to the Ukrainian fighters? I'm surprised Russia hasn't started bombing the train system in Ukraine yet.
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I said this same thing to my wife a week or so ago.
I would go even further and evict those here with Green Card status.
There are several Russian citizens teaching here at the university with Green Card status.
I agree with you. If they are a Russian citizen, send them back.
I read an article. The 'comfortable rich' Russians have created a Little Moscow in Florida. They are worried they may not be able to buy luxury real estate in Florida now because of the sanctions. A Russian real estate agent there said they didn't think the sanctions would be a problem, since the sanctions were targeting the elite Russian oligarchs, and these were just the comfortable rich Russians, and not the oligarch families.
So what? Boot them all back to Russia. Let them cry their hearts out that they can't enjoy the luxury American lifestyle. Those are the people we need to expel, because they know how good life here is. They will foment a regime change in Russia.
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Why would we want to take such harsh action against innocents....
Nations might then retaliate and decide to imprison innocent americans living abroad.
I'm not sure I see how this would help but I can see how it would be detrimental.
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That's a risk they chose to take when they decided to live abroad. Actions have consequences.
You can't always have your cake and eat it too.
I do find it quite ironic that you would even mention the 'innocent' Americans living abroad. That is seriously messed up. You sound like that stupid Russian spy woman the US arrested a few years back. She was arguing that Ukraine shouldn't be handing out guns because a child might get killed.
WTF? What about the women and kids Russia is killing now? What about all the innocent Ukrainians being killed? And you want to play coward because of risks to a few bystanders, when not doing it will cause more harm to other bystanders?
When Americans choose to live abroad, they are no longer "innocent." They chose to put themselves in that situation. They accepted those risks.
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply you were talking about prison. You didn't, but bee farmer did.
I'm not sure it would be illegal for professors to support V. Putin and his actions. In some cases, they may simply be attempting to restate his position on the matters. In other cases they restate and completely support Putin. It is probably still legal to do this.
Fathertime!
Read my words again. I said their visa should be cancelled and they should be ordered to leave. If they refuse to leave immediately, they get arrested for being here without a visa.
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Russia is being isolated in the Sporting World :
1. UEFA Championship in St Petersburg moved.
2. F1 GP being moved from Sochi plus Russian sponsors of one team kicked out.
3. Aeroflot has football sponsorship contract cancelled in UK.
4. Czech, Sweden refuse to play Russia in WC playoffs.
5. FIG suspends the Russians (and Belarusians) from participating in international competitions or from hosting any FIG championships.
Have I missed anything?
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Quote from: ML on Today at 10:13:06 AM
The Russians here are not innocents. I talked with some of the Russian professors here back in 2014 and they said they supported Putin's actions against Ukraine.
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I do find it quite ironic that you would even mention the 'innocent' Americans living abroad. That is seriously messed up.
When Americans choose to live abroad, they are no longer "innocent." They chose to put themselves in that situation. They accepted those risks.
That is a weird way to look at it. You seem to believe by living abroad you are guilty of something.
You sound like that stupid Russian spy woman the US arrested a few years back. She was arguing that Ukraine shouldn't be handing out guns because a child might get killed.
WTF? What about the women and kids Russia is killing now? What about all the innocent Ukrainians being killed? And you want to play coward because of risks to a few bystanders, when not doing it will cause more harm to other bystanders?
Whoever this 'Russian spy woman' is, as a spy she obviously had an agenda so I wouldn't place too much value in her argument. I don't see why in your head why one topic reminded you of another.
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Russia is being isolated in the Sporting World :
1. UEFA Championship in St Petersburg moved.
2. F1 GP being moved from Sochi plus Russian sponsors of one team kicked out.
3. Aeroflot has football sponsorship contract cancelled in UK.
4. Czech, Sweden refuse to play Russia in WC playoffs.
5. FIG suspends the Russians (and Belarusians) from participating in international competitions or from hosting any FIG championships.
Have I missed anything?
Roman Abramovich turned over the Chelsea soccer team to a charity(I think?) organization.
All the main boxing organizations have refused to sanction any boxing event in Russia.
The International Judo Federation suspended Putin as president of them.
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That is a weird way to look at it. You seem to believe by living abroad you are guilty of something.
Whoever this 'Russian spy woman' is, as a spy she obviously had an agenda so I wouldn't place too much value in her argument. I don't see why in your head why one topic reminded you of another.
Fathertime!
Yes, you are guilty of something. You are guilty of choosing to live there. You are guilty of tacitly agreeing with the decisions of the government there.
If you can't see the parallel, then I would suggest you go remove your blinders. It is the exact same mentality and line of thinking. Your agenda is exactly the same agenda as the Russian spy's (Maria Butina), whether you realize it or not.
“Cowardice asks the question, is it safe? Expediency asks the question, is it politic? Vanity asks the question, is it popular? But conscience asks the question, is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but one must take it because it is right.” – Martin Luther King
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Yes, you are guilty of something. You are guilty of choosing to live there. You are guilty of tacitly agreeing with the decisions of the government there.
So if that is the case, why wouldn't the Russians living here be 'tacitly' agreeing with the decisions here....why would they all need to be immediately kicked out or imprisoned...
Of course I disagree with your proclamation that Americans living abroad are guilty of anything. Perhaps you can make a better argument that doesn't contradict itself from one post to another.
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A passport or citizenship surely influences, but doesn't define a person.
Propaganda is a huge part of the game, but we do have the ability to learn, change and adapt.
Whether one use that ability, or not is the true issue.
Democracy must prove itself stronger, and is based on inclusion rather than exclusion.
Throwing the baby out with the bath water is as undemocratic as it gets.
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Written in January of this year, this article seems prescient at this point in time .... http://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-possible-invasion-ukraine (http://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-possible-invasion-ukraine)
That was very interesting. Thank you.
I found this op-ed from Russian writer Vladimir Sorokin interesting -
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/27/vladimir-putin-russia-ukraine-power
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Anyone with brains knows it's best to use the right tool for the job. I'm not a professional soldier. While it sounds romantic to go over to help fight, the reality is that my Ukrainian isn't good enough for my brains to be of much use, and that leaves being a sniper until my position gets hit with artillery. I realize that I would be better off doing what I do best...which means I may be of more value during the reconstruction process.
Only a complete fool would even consider looking for a wife in Ukraine now. You think scammers were bad before? They are going to come out of the woodwork now. It's going to take years and an enormous amount of money to repair the economy, regardless of how the way ends.
Any decent girl is going to want to stay and help take care of her family now. She's not going to be interested in going to another country with some foreign guy she barely knows. The girls who will be interested in foreign guys are only interested in a mule. They want to escape. They will not be interested in you. As soon as they are out, they will drop you in a heartbeat the moment they have a chance at anything better.
And any girl you find is going to have full blown PTSD after this. Do you realize how much emotional support you are going to have to give her? That's just one big stress factor on top of all the other difficulties of international/intercultural marriages.
I think the only way a man should even consider dating in Ukraine now is if he had already started cultivating a relationship with a girl (and hopefully had met face to face) prior to this war. You might have a chance at being able to continue building a relationship.
You also seem to forget that Russia is not the only country with nuclear weapons or a strong military. You sound like the wimpy coward on the playground who is afraid to stand up to a bully because he might get his butt kicked even worse.
You also don't seem to understand logistics. The moment a country says it is going to send military weapons to Ukraine, that doesn't instantly put the weapons in the fighters hands. It has to get loaded up, sent to Poland, then loaded on trains or trucks, and then transported and distributed to different cities that are currently under attack. Do we even need to mention that the Russian military will be doing everything they can to stop the flow of supplies to the Ukrainian fighters? I'm surprised Russia hasn't started bombing the train system in Ukraine yet.
Not that I disagree with your points there...I actually think most are generally accurate
But you also seem to forget the entire reason the K1 process was ever developed and integrated into u.s. immigration policy.
Granted TC is English.
It just ironic your take on women leaving and their motivations when the K1 was centered around military personnel, and often in war torn areas.
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That's a risk they chose to take when they decided to live abroad. Actions have consequences.
You can't always have your cake and eat it too.
I do find it quite ironic that you would even mention the 'innocent' Americans living abroad. That is seriously messed up. You sound like that stupid Russian spy woman the US arrested a few years back. She was arguing that Ukraine shouldn't be handing out guns because a child might get killed.
WTF? What about the women and kids Russia is killing now? What about all the innocent Ukrainians being killed? And you want to play coward because of risks to a few bystanders, when not doing it will cause more harm to other bystanders?
When Americans choose to live abroad, they are no longer "innocent." They chose to put themselves in that situation. They accepted those risks.
So by your logic the many times I've lived and worked abroad, for various u. s.companies , if our foreign policy changes when a new administration takes over, or they make some foolish invasion decisions, I should not be able to rely on the closet us embassy for any support, and any nation connected with whomever feels harmed by u.s actions can imprison me or whatever justly.?
Do you have even the lightest idea of the scope of u.s contracted services abroad?
So someone working in industrial.constuction in israel ,or Brazil, is not an *innocent* bystander because their company sent them.there for two.years on assignment?
You have a very weird perspective of how globally anything reasonable can work,or should work.
I've direct family in Ukraine and inlaws,,
Yet your stance on Russians legally here is beyond foolish.
I know plenty of Russians here that certainly do not support this invasion in any way shape or form.
Nor are they children of wealthy Russians.
There are close to 250,000 Russians within 150 mile radius of me,and roughly half a million Ukrainians,not.to.mention a million polish,and the highest numbers of Lithuanians per capita in the US, is the county I live in.
Have you fully supported every international move the usa has made?
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Hah. You’re a Kali boy, you know it may show air temp at 68 but the cold northern wind makes in feel like you’re in the arctic. It felt like a San Francisco summer.
Yes I know lol, but we had highs of 13F here last week, it was a balmy 28 yesterday and actually did feel. Umm warm.
Regarding SF,
I told my wife when we were in our way to visit there previously that despite.our.winters ,I had never been so chilled to.the bone as SF in summer 🤣
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He didn't have to move his stations. Starlink satellites are orbiting the planet and ground stations in Lithuania and Poland can serve most of UA. Check starlink.sx What he is sending is small dishes (terminals) used to connect to satellites connected to the internet. I just installed mine the other day. Am waiting to hear if it is possible to pack up and donate mine since I haven't yet cancelled my old service. I'm posting using Starlink now. Portable, fast and stable. A luxury here, but could well be a critical asset somewhere in UA.
(http://i.postimg.cc/rw0RYGTR/Screen-Shot-2022-02-27-at-17-39-59.png)
I saw he did that and that was very cool.
He doesn't have much love for.Russian administration, I believe back.when he was buying rockets from.them.early in space x, after a few trips one of the admins spit on his shoes in an altercation over negotiations of price?
Something like that.
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Looking at the video on TV off the Ukrainians tacking the Russians in Kharkiv I can see why Russia is doing so badly. Each time a column rolls into a area of the city they are in the open surrounded by concrete tower blocks. These tower blocks serve like huge concrete bunkers, many of them no doubt with people with guns so they are fired upon from virtually every conceivable angle. They show the Russian armoured column riddled with bullets and the Russians having fled. These tower blocks go on for many miles into the city so it's like the Russians are having to move through a vast concrete bunker network that towers over them and goes on for many miles.
Looking at the map the Russians haven't got far into Ukraine, not as far as they could have. It sounds like they are using the same failed strategy over and over again and getting the same result. If it were me I would surround the main cities and cut off their supplies of food and choke them out, yet the Russians appear too stupid to think of this. If the Russians continue as they have been I don't see their chances of success as high. That would be a good thing as it would likely humble Russia's over confidence and they would be less likely to be as aggressive in future to my mind.
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It makes no sense that Russia would allow these weapons to be transported into Ukraine. Given they have 100's of thousands of men on the ground now, it would seem they could control this sort of weaponry entering a battle zone.
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I know from.friends and family they certainly do not control.western Ukraine in any way shape or form at the moment, a few missle strikes does not control a massive border to the.west.
They may at some point,but they are far from it today. .
They are struggling with kharkiv in the far east of the country with a moderate Russian population.
The going will only get tougher in more western Ukraine and a much less moderate population in regards to Russia in general. .
Add in when they get extreme west near the border it's mountainous , remote and good luck ever holding that region or.sealing the border.
Not saying it couldn't be done,Russia absolutely has the resources to do.so, but certainly would take a far far more involved effort than they have done so far(which already is quite a large scope)
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Anyone with brains knows it's best to use the right tool for the job. I'm not a professional soldier. While it sounds romantic to go over to help fight, the reality is that my Ukrainian isn't good enough for my brains to be of much use, and that leaves being a sniper until my position gets hit with artillery. I realize that I would be better off doing what I do best...which means I may be of more value during the reconstruction process.
Only a complete fool would even consider looking for a wife in Ukraine now. You think scammers were bad before? They are going to come out of the woodwork now. It's going to take years and an enormous amount of money to repair the economy, regardless of how the way ends.
Any decent girl is going to want to stay and help take care of her family now. She's not going to be interested in going to another country with some foreign guy she barely knows. The girls who will be interested in foreign guys are only interested in a mule. They want to escape. They will not be interested in you. As soon as they are out, they will drop you in a heartbeat the moment they have a chance at anything better.
And any girl you find is going to have full blown PTSD after this. Do you realize how much emotional support you are going to have to give her? That's just one big stress factor on top of all the other difficulties of international/intercultural marriages.
I think the only way a man should even consider dating in Ukraine now is if he had already started cultivating a relationship with a girl (and hopefully had met face to face) prior to this war. You might have a chance at being able to continue building a relationship.
You also seem to forget that Russia is not the only country with nuclear weapons or a strong military. You sound like the wimpy coward on the playground who is afraid to stand up to a bully because he might get his butt kicked even worse.
You also don't seem to understand logistics. The moment a country says it is going to send military weapons to Ukraine, that doesn't instantly put the weapons in the fighters hands. It has to get loaded up, sent to Poland, then loaded on trains or trucks, and then transported and distributed to different cities that are currently under attack. Do we even need to mention that the Russian military will be doing everything they can to stop the flow of supplies to the Ukrainian fighters? I'm surprised Russia hasn't started bombing the train system in Ukraine yet.
There's nothing worse than someone who thinks they are too good to fight while others are only worthy enough to face being slaughtered Bee Farmer. Its probably the most cowardly excuse and we will no doubt hear others echo it like we have from BC of an actual Ukrainian be guy who is escaping citing that he is too worthy and so above other Ukrainian guys. Perhaps they should dispute that and all say stuff him and head for the border too lol.
Anyhow you're description of how it will likely be like post war is accurate enough so I'll give you credit there Bee Farmer. That said it is just what western guys have been suffering all along just on more of a heightened scale. Same answer hold true I think and that is to avoid the bad girls and find your way to a good one. To my mind the best way to do that is to be out there. If this war is over in a few weeks or months then I'll be on my way out there, to Odessa. Place myself in the best position possible by being a affluent guy living in a community where affluence has become a rarer commodity than ever. Now I ask you are girls going to scam me if I'm living out there in such a situation? Some might but many girls will instantly see the sense in getting with a guy like me, I would be a great long term prospect and they would want to get in before another girl did. That's how you turn such a situation to your advantage.
As far as the way Russia's military is operating I am surprised they are not all over the situation. Apparently lorries of ammunition was shown today going over the border. I'm surprised Russia doesn't hit it from the air, they would likely have to risk hitting civilian lorries of course. The help is being given and it looks like it will mostly get through. How well Ukraine can continue to do against Russia we will have to wait and see. I don't think though that escalating the situation by using NATO will help it will only cause a lot of bloodshed and misery by our own people. I also don't think our people are up for it as they'll look at people like you and say, 'if he ain't going to fight then neither am I, goodbye!'
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I think I have mentioned it before here, but . . .
the most vicious hand to hand combat I have ever seen was between two Ukrainian men (late 20s in very good shape) in an underground metro area in Kharkiv.
Wife says that Ukrainians are typically docile, but when riled they can act like that. A lot of Cossack blood in many of them.
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Making the social media rounds.
We are in WW III
Russia against the world and,
Ukraine representing the world against Russia.
Seems to be a lot of truth in this.
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They are struggling with kharkiv in the far east of the country with a moderate Russian population.
The going will only get tougher in more western Ukraine and a much less moderate population in regards to Russia in general. .
Looking at the video on TV off the Ukrainians tacking the Russians in Kharkiv I can see why Russia is doing so badly. Each time a column rolls into a area of the city they are in the open surrounded by concrete tower blocks. These tower blocks serve like huge concrete bunkers, many of them no doubt with people with guns so they are fired upon from virtually every conceivable angle. They show the Russian armoured column riddled with bullets and the Russians having fled. These tower blocks go on for many miles into the city so it's like the Russians are having to move through a vast concrete bunker network that towers over them and goes on for many miles.
The consensus here is that Russia is doing rather poorly with their attacks. I read they are having a big meeting tomorrow with Ukraine. IF what you are saying is accurate regarding russia's inabilities thus far, I'd venture a guess that Russia will say something like:
"We have prioritized safety of civilians during these first few days. We will no longer be able to do this and meet our strategic objective Our strategic objective will be prioritized after this meeting ends".
If that statement is actualized those buildings Trenchcoat was mentioning would all be leveled, and the carnage would be unfathomable. Putin may feel he has little more to lose, his chips are committed. Aside from his life, he has little more to lose, and him being in a very bad place is a VERY bad place for humanity. I do not know what his objectives are, but I think more information will come out after tomorrow's meeting. I hope Ukraine leadership considers all that is at stake here and deprioritizes what biden and other western leaders want. The west is all too happy to keep feeding them weaponry and lead them into what (I believe) will be an eventual slaughter.
Of course, this is just my opinion, maybe Russia's military is so futile that they can't pull it off...but I think they can and will, because they will resort to whatever tactics are necessary.
Fathertime!
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The consensus here is that Russia is doing rather poorly with their attacks. I read they are having a big meeting tomorrow with Ukraine. IF what you are saying is accurate regarding russia's inabilities thus far, I'd venture a guess that Russia will say something like:
"We have prioritized safety of civilians during these first few days. We will no longer be able to do this and meet our strategic objective Our strategic objective will be prioritized after this meeting ends".
If that statement is actualized those buildings Trenchcoat was mentioning would all be leveled, and the carnage would be unfathomable. Putin may feel he has little more to lose, his chips are committed. Aside from his life, he has little more to lose, and him being in a very bad place is a VERY bad place for humanity. I do not know what his objectives are, but I think more information will come out after tomorrow's meeting. I hope Ukraine leadership considers all that is at stake here and deprioritizes what biden and other western leaders want. The west is all too happy to keep feeding them weaponry and lead them into what (I believe) will be an eventual slaughter.
Of course, this is just my opinion, maybe Russia's military is so futile that they can't pull it off...but I think they can and will, because they will resort to whatever tactics are necessary.
Fathertime!
I think you've got it bang on right with how it will go down at the meeting FT. Russia will put what it wants and if Ukraine doesn't agree it will go in harder against Ukraine. Whether that is surrounding cities and starving them out like castle sieges of old or using all manner of high powered missiles. So far I don't think Russia has used a fraction of its power and that power lays mostly in its missiles. It looks like to date Russia has been trying to see if any of Ukraine's major cities would fold and gain a victory without much bloodshed. None has but I can't see Russia carrying on the same failed strategy they would be utter idiots. The other strategies of course involve a complete bloodbath and utter devastation to Ukraine. Starving the cities our potentially is the least deadly provided Russia has the resources to do it and the inhabitants don't take it literally to the point of starving to death.
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...Putin may feel he has little more to lose, his chips are committed. Aside from his life, he has little more to lose, and him being in a very bad place is a VERY bad place for humanity. I do not know what his objectives are, but I think more information will come out after tomorrow's meeting. I hope Ukraine leadership considers all that is at stake here and deprioritizes what biden and other western leaders want. The west is all too happy to keep feeding them weaponry and lead them into what (I believe) will be an eventual slaughter...
That, baby...is exactly the predictable script in this tragedy. I can only hope that before this reaches the crescendo that the majority of the civilian are evacuated and casualty will be minimize if not all together avoided. The west can, and will, supply Ukraine all the military ware it wants, and the more they do, the more mad Vlad will turn this burner on.
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Have you fully supported every international move the usa has made?
Not even sure why that conversation found life. It clearly sounds like a page taken from Osama Bin Laden/Al Qeada's justification for 911.
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So if that is the case, why wouldn't the Russians living here be 'tacitly' agreeing with the decisions here....why would they all need to be immediately kicked out or imprisoned...
Of course I disagree with your proclamation that Americans living abroad are guilty of anything. Perhaps you can make a better argument that doesn't contradict itself from one post to another.
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The Russians living here HAVE tacitly agreed. They are here by privilege, and not by right. They agreed that privilege could be revoked. They can be named a persona non grata at any time by the host government. They can either get out or get arrested if they stay. It's pretty simple.
Any American living abroad is guilty of agreeing to live in another country as a privilege, and not a right. I have no idea what contradiction you think exists...and I'm not going to try to read your mind.
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I don't think they will unless a significant number of Russian soldiers start coming home in body bags.
"We will remind that the Russian army bought 45 thousand cellophane packages for transportation of corpses . This was announced on February 23 by the head of the Security Service of Ukraine in Kharkiv region Roman Dudin. The SBU believes that the packages are planned to be used for killed Russian soldiers."
http://tsn.ua/ukrayina/buntuyut-i-ne-hochut-voyuvati-na-kordoni-rf-z-ukrayinoyu-zvilnyayutsya-rosiyski-viyskovi-kontraktniki-1985371.html
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But you also seem to forget the entire reason the K1 process was ever developed and integrated into u.s. immigration policy.
It just ironic your take on women leaving and their motivations when the K1 was centered around military personnel, and often in war torn areas.
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I am aware of how the K1 started for war brides. Typically, the soldier was stationed in that area for a length of time, and developed a relationship with the girl while he was there. Both of them were emotionally invested in the other. (we hope) Then he brought her back.
The soldier also wasn't in a country that had a culture of many women trying to fleece men for money. Divorce was also frowned upon much more than today.
If a guy was to go live in Ukraine for an extended length of time now, I still think it would be possible to find a good wife. The girls looking for a quick escape aren't going to want to be involved with a man staying in the country for an extended amount of time.
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So by your logic the many times I've lived and worked abroad, for various u. s.companies , if our foreign policy changes when a new administration takes over, or they make some foolish invasion decisions, I should not be able to rely on the closet us embassy for any support, and any nation connected with whomever feels harmed by u.s actions can imprison me or whatever justly.?
I have no clue how anyone with a brain could come to that conclusion by following my logic. Are you unable to read?
When you are living in another country, you are there by PRIVILEGE. That privilege can be revoked by the host government. They can declare you a persona non grata at any time, and they can tell you to leave. If you don't leave, they will arrest you. Yes, the host government is perfectly within their rights to tell you to leave, and to arrest you if you don't leave.
Do you have even the lightest idea of the scope of u.s contracted services abroad?
It's irrelevant. The ONLY thing that matters is that the person abroad is there by PRIVILEGE from the host government, and that government has the right to kick them out at any time, for any reason.
So someone working in industrial.constuction in israel ,or Brazil, is not an *innocent* bystander because their company sent them.there for two.years on assignment?
They had a choice to go or not. No, they are not an innocent bystander. They voluntarily made the decision to go live in another country as a privilege extended by the host government.
You have a very weird perspective of how globally anything reasonable can work,or should work.
And you are ignorant of law, rights, and privileges.
I've direct family in Ukraine and inlaws,,
That is irrelevant.
Yet your stance on Russians legally here is beyond foolish.
They are here as a legal PRIVILEGE, and that privilege can be revoked. Their visa can be revoked. They can be named a persona non grata, and they can still be deported.
I know plenty of Russians here that certainly do not support this invasion in any way shape or form.
Nor are they children of wealthy Russians.
There are close to 250,000 Russians within 150 mile radius of me,and roughly half a million Ukrainians,not.to.mention a million polish,and the highest numbers of Lithuanians per capita in the US, is the county I live in.
What does that have to do with the price of rice in China? Nothing. It's irrelevant.
Have you fully supported every international move the usa has made?
No, but once again, that's IRRELEVANT.
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There's nothing worse than someone who thinks they are too good to fight while others are only worthy enough to face being slaughtered Bee Farmer. Its probably the most cowardly excuse and we will no doubt hear others echo it like we have from BC of an actual Ukrainian be guy who is escaping citing that he is too worthy and so above other Ukrainian guys. Perhaps they should dispute that and all say stuff him and head for the border too lol.
I hate to break it to you, but 100 years ago the US government realized that they had a better chance of winning wars if they let the dumber folks be cannon fodder, and your more intelligent folks become officers. It doesn't work very well if you have idiots in charge, and the geniuses get used as cannon fodder. (But you don't want them too dumb, or you can't even teach them how to be cannon fodder.)
The US military won't accept guys over 35 either, and I am past 35.
Whether you agree with it or not, there are people who have enough brains or resources that they can be of greater benefit in other ways than by being cannon fodder.
If this war is over in a few weeks or months then I'll be on my way out there, to Odessa. Place myself in the best position possible by being a affluent guy living in a community where affluence has become a rarer commodity than ever. Now I ask you are girls going to scam me if I'm living out there in such a situation? Some might but many girls will instantly see the sense in getting with a guy like me, I would be a great long term prospect and they would want to get in before another girl did. That's how you turn such a situation to your advantage.
You're delusional.
1. You're not affluent, and girls will realize that really quick.
2. Even if a girl did think you were affluent, she would not be looking for a long-term prospect. She will be looking to see how much she can fleece you for, and how quickly. But if you buy her a Ferrari, she might start thinking a little longer term.
3. If you wanted to turn the situation to your advantage, you would first be a good guy. You would spend some of your affluence on helping rebuild, and taking care of people around you. Then, good girls looking for a long-term prospect might take notice of you.
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The head of the EU has said she thinks Ukraine should be allowed to join.
Zelensky is saying that he would consider non-aligned status of not joining NATO.
Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail tomorrow at the meeting. I think both sides could walk away saving face if they agreed that Ukraine could join the EU, but would not join NATO. The war ends, and the Donbass (and maybe Crimea) is returned to Ukraine.
Both sides could come out getting something they wanted. Ukraine could get in the EU, the fighting ends, and regain territory. Russia has Ukraine as a buffer zone keeping NATO at bay.
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Any American living abroad is guilty of agreeing to live in another country as a privilege, and not a right. I have no idea what contradiction you think exists...and I'm not going to try to read your mind.
Only a complete idiot can't see the contradiction in what you are writing. You state all Americans living abroad are 'guilty'. (Idiotic statement), because they 'tacitly' agree with their host country's government. On its face that is an idiotic statement, and even if Americans abroad did like their hosts government that is no crime. After this, you try to demand all Russians living here in green card status be expelled or imprisoned...you say this while saying how expats tacitly approve of the government in their host country (Russians here). Get your shit together and come up with a better reason you can be consistent with.
I hate to break it to you, but 100 years ago the US government realized that they had a better chance of winning wars if they let the dumber folks be cannon fodder, and your more intelligent folks become officers.
So then why did you think you weren't qualified as cannon fodder....
Fathertime!
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The head of the EU has said she thinks Ukraine should be allowed to join.
Zelensky is saying that he would consider non-aligned status of not joining NATO.
Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail tomorrow at the meeting. I think both sides could walk away saving face if they agreed that Ukraine could join the EU, but would not join NATO. The war ends, and the Donbass (and maybe Crimea) is returned to Ukraine.
Both sides could come out getting something they wanted. Ukraine could get in the EU, the fighting ends, and regain territory. Russia has Ukraine as a buffer zone keeping NATO at bay.
I don't think that will be considered an acceptable solution on the Russian side at this point. Perhaps we shall learn what is REALLY going on, or perhaps not. Biden is making statements taking actions that all indicate he wants to make sure the battle is as bloody as possible. I wonder if the public will find out what is really going on.
Fathertime!
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Any American living abroad is guilty of agreeing to live in another country as a privilege, and not a right. I have no idea what contradiction you think exists...and I'm not going to try to read your mind.
As an American living abroad, I don't see it this way. I live in a country that provides immigrants the same rights that a citizen has. The only exception is voting and the possibility of expulsion if I break the law in a significant way. Privilege by your definition, implies immigrants should be afforded fewer rights than a citizen. That is not the case here, nor is it, AFAIK, the case in the US.
You seem to desire precisely the same thing Putin wants... to run Russia and other satellite countries by abolishing rights and limiting freedoms of citizens and non-citizens.
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EU is now sending Fighter Jets to Ukraine,which the Ukrainian pilots know how to fly.
According to news outlets in Israel,where he now lives,Chelsea FC owner Roman Abramovich is at the meeting between Ukraine and Russia delegates in Belarus today at Kyiv's request to try and broker a peace deal.
People are saying they can see a hollywood movie being made out of what is happening in Mariupol.
Russia expected to take it within hours..and we're now in the 5th day of fighting there.
Berdyansk is the first city to fall to Russian forces.
Ukrainian forces are seriously delaying Russian forces entering Kiev..they have been attacking the armoured columns on the roads to Kiev breaking-up lines of communication with reports of chaos in the logistics.
According to the Ukraine President Russia has now lost 4,500 military personnel.
The Rouble has sunk to an all-time low.
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Barrage of Russian grad missiles currently hitting Kharkiv apartment blocks,with dozens of civilians killed.
Shelling of Donetsk has intensified today also.
Mad Vlad the terrorist busy today then.
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Sweden has broken neutrality and is sending 5000 anti-tank weapons to Ukraine.
Switzerland is joining the EU in sanctions against Russia.
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Wife is getting reports from friends and relatives that the Javelin is doing quite a job.
In some instances they have seen 20 or more tanks and large trucks lined up setting destroyed on roadways leading toward Kyiv.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=379oNAwQjMY
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Wife understands better than me.
I mentioned to wife how it is a shame that other countries didn't earlier send the planes and weapons to Ukraine that they are now doing.
She said quite simple explanation:
Countries did not believe Ukraine would last very long, and didn't want all the weapons to end up in the hands of Russians.
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Russia is being isolated in the Sporting World :
1. UEFA Championship in St Petersburg moved.
2. F1 GP being moved from Sochi plus Russian sponsors of one team kicked out.
3. Aeroflot has football sponsorship contract cancelled in UK.
4. Czech, Sweden refuse to play Russia in WC playoffs.
5. FIG suspends the Russians (and Belarusians) from participating in international competitions or from hosting any FIG championships.
Have I missed anything?
FIFA is now going to suspend Russia from all competitions.
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Having lived abroad in many countries long term,I am all too familiar with the privilege granted by the host governments honoring a visa they issued ,and that they can certainly choose to revoke that visa at any time.
Fortunately none of them are prone to toddler like tantrums ,or likely to hold foreign workers in thier countries liable for the foreign policy decisions of their national.governments,as they recognize those can change on a dime.
Having the right to do something, doesn't always make it the right thing to do. This seems a concept that is easy for most to grasp.
You stating that the volume of foreign workers, students etc in a country is irrelevant,simply shows your lack on understanding of again a very basic concept.
I'll agree it irrelevant to that countries legal rights to revoke visas.
So there you have a point that noone was ever disputing. Well done.
There are several countries that would never throw such a toddler tantrum to do such, even though its within their rights,,because first, they recognize it is not the correct thing to do.
Second they recognize their entire economy and way of life of thier citizens would be devastated ,so from a pragmatic standpoint could not.
My apologies that things are not so clear cut and black and white in a global scenario,and that countries acting like toddlers and throwing such tantrums would quickly self destruct over many other issues if they cant think and act more clearly in general.
My Ukrainian wife would absolutely not agree that Russian visas be revoked here.It's riduculous.
In the end you can rant all you want, it's the wrong thing to do, and it will not be done.
Get back to me when the usa revokes those here on visas ok?
Otherwise it's just wasted bandwidth.
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Wife understands better than me.
I mentioned to wife how it is a shame that other countries didn't earlier send the planes and weapons to Ukraine that they are now doing.
She said quite simple explanation:
Countries did not believe Ukraine would last very long, and didn't want all the weapons to end up in the hands of Russians.
Yes that thought had crossed my mind too...they needed to know that Ukrainians would stand and fight,which they are.
Apparently,some earlier shipments of weapons sent to Ukraine before this year had ended up in the wrong hands.
Let's be honest,i expect most of us on here are on Ukraine's side over this war,but there's no denying they are a corrupt country..as is Russia of course.
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To give us an idea what it's like for some/many ? of the Russian troops in Ukraine.
The Ukraine ambassador to the UN has released a text sent by a Russian soldier to his mother.
He's just read it out to the UN Assembly.
This is the gist of it .
"Mama it's terrible here..our troops are killing Ukrainian troops and civilians..we thought they wanted us here,but they are fighting and laying down their bodies in front of our Tanks and armoured vehicles to try and stop us advancing.I feel so bad Mama."
Several minutes later he was killed.
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I hate to break it to you, but 100 years ago the US government realized that they had a better chance of winning wars if they let the dumber folks be cannon fodder, and your more intelligent folks become officers. It doesn't work very well if you have idiots in charge, and the geniuses get used as cannon fodder. (But you don't want them too dumb, or you can't even teach them how to be cannon fodder.)
The US military won't accept guys over 35 either, and I am past 35.
Whether you agree with it or not, there are people who have enough brains or resources that they can be of greater benefit in other ways than by being cannon fodder.
You're delusional.
1. You're not affluent, and girls will realize that really quick.
2. Even if a girl did think you were affluent, she would not be looking for a long-term prospect. She will be looking to see how much she can fleece you for, and how quickly. But if you buy her a Ferrari, she might start thinking a little longer term.
3. If you wanted to turn the situation to your advantage, you would first be a good guy. You would spend some of your affluence on helping rebuild, and taking care of people around you. Then, good girls looking for a long-term prospect might take notice of you.
We can all claim to be geniuses or too good to be used as cannon fodder. After all who would want to be cannon fodder? Those that are fighting in Ukraine at the moment feel that they have no choice. If some guy stood up and said he was too good for it then I would do the same also, everyone else might as well, then where would we be?
I'm not claiming that I would be the wealthiest guy around. I wouldn't even go out to get a girl on that basis I know it leads nowhere good. All I am saying is that I would look reasonably prosperous so more girls would consider me for dating. From there I can (hopefully) chose the best choice.
Though I guess I could well become the Carnegie of the Ukraine.
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This American guy is inside Kyiv...shares his perspective of how this is really shaping in Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo
There's a validity in what he's saying as to why Russian troops are circling and stopping 20 miles out of the major cities, including Kyiv.
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EU is now sending Fighter Jets to Ukraine,which the Ukrainian pilots know how to fly.
According to the Ukraine President Russia has now lost 4,500 military personnel.
The Rouble has sunk to an all-time low.
Yeah it sounds to reason that they would have lost similar to the Russians. The other figures I think we're just for civilians though that figure may have not been all that certain or a daily figure.
The general idea I get is that the two sides seem fairly evenly matched with the cities giving the Ukrainians a good defensive position. Apparently the main bulk of Russia's Army hadn't reached Kyiv yet so they are kind off making pretty slow progress.
If the Russian economy starts to do real bad then that is what might end this war for the Russians, eventually.
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Russian Buk destroyed near Kyiv by TB2 drone
http://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=684223203027915
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The head of the EU has said she thinks Ukraine should be allowed to join.
Zelensky is saying that he would consider non-aligned status of not joining NATO.
Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail tomorrow at the meeting. I think both sides could walk away saving face if they agreed that Ukraine could join the EU, but would not join NATO. The war ends, and the Donbass (and maybe Crimea) is returned to Ukraine.
Both sides could come out getting something they wanted. Ukraine could get in the EU, the fighting ends, and regain territory. Russia has Ukraine as a buffer zone keeping NATO at bay.
The EU is a menace and behind a lot of the reason why this has all come about. I don't see Ukraine joining the EU nor do I think it would be a good idea. The EU are now stony broke having taken on a huge Covid debt. Ukraine's economy will be in a very poor state as a result of Covid and this war including the embargo from the Black Sea. The EU has little money to give them and they can't raise more from the wealthier western states who are also feeling the pinch.
In addition if Ukraine joined before the war ended in theory an attack on one state is an attack on all states under the EU treaty. Whether that applies to a new member that is already been attacked who knows. The threat either way is that the EU as a whole gets dragged into the war and member states won't like that. Plus it could bring in NATO as Eastern States are also NATO members.
Zelensky is angling to get in both that annoys me as it will almost likely being a bigger problem by escalating the conflict just to try and solve his own immediate problem. He's essentially trying to make Ukraine's problem our problem which it is not. I feel for Ukraine but I don't think Zelensky should be allowed to get away with trying to be a bit too slick in trying to get us roped up to this problem. Mass slaughter of our own people in a world war is something we can do well without. If that is how we are talked into it I won't be hanging around to fight it ain't my doing as I'm arguing against it, I'll be off, just too much off a genius to be cannon fodder on that one ;)
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This American guy is inside Kyiv...shares his perspective of how this is really shaping in Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo
There's a validity in what he's saying as to why Russian troops are circling and stopping 20 miles out of the major cities, including Kyiv.
I absolutely agree that's their plan.
Has been all along.
That is a very fine line to tread of invading to.install new regime the general public will accept.
Possible in Ukraine? Yes.
I think it's unlikely ,and becomes more unlikely as this draws out.
So then in Putins chess game ,if that becomes clear it isnt a possibility, what's next...
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I wanted to come back to make one very important post so you all have a better understanding of what is going on. Forget everything you learned from the media about Ukraine, Afghanistan, politics, and other issues around the world. The truth is our Western media puts out as much propaganda as the media in countries you despise. WE are in an information war and most people's minds do not know what is going on which means most people are incapacitated. How do you resist and fight back when you don't understand there is a problem?
How would you feel if America attacked Canada, Mexico, and Cuba without justification? You would be angry at America. But... what if you learned Putin put biological weapons labs in Canada, chemical weapons plants in Mexico, and nuclear bases in Cuba? Then you would call Putin and Russia the aggressors and America's neighbor nations deserved to be attacked since they allowed weapons of mass destruction to be created on their land.
I'm here to tell you that America and Western Europe want this war in Ukraine. Get mad at them. There are a variety of reasons Putin is attacking Ukraine and some are actually good reasons. Our Western nations have been doing things that violate treaties with Russia under the disguise of “gain of function”. Guess where you heard that before. We have been funding China to create super viruses and we have been funding Ukraine to create super bacteria and telling everybody it's to in turn create powerful medicines to help humanity. Here is info of a lab in Ukraine. Last page shows funding by George Soros and other international partners. Western nations have been outsourcing the manufacturing of weapons of mass destruction to other countries. We've created dangerous labs next door to Russia and using Ukraine to create pathogens that can harm humanity. Western nations intentionally put Ukraine and it's people at risk of war and disease.
http://www.stcu.int/documents/reports/distribution/tpf/ipf/bio/ua/pdf/UAPRI_IPF_Odesa_Ukraine.pdf (http://www.stcu.int/documents/reports/distribution/tpf/ipf/bio/ua/pdf/UAPRI_IPF_Odesa_Ukraine.pdf)
Because Putin isn't going all out in this war tells me he's not totally evil. He has sent only a small percentage of Russian troops into Ukraine and he's allowed communications and internet to continue. Putin has put his troops at additional risk by letting the enemy communicate. If Hillary and her people can hack into the White House and spy on a sitting president, you can be sure Russian hackers could hack into anything and shut it down. Over the years I've heavily criticized Putin but it's possible this time he is saving the lives of hundreds of millions if not billions of people by going after those biolabs and stopping other Deeps State projects in Ukraine. He knows Western nations funded the creation of the coronavirus and released it on humanity on purpose. He knows it can be done again.
I've posted many links to info on this forum but if you are led to water, it's up to you to drink. There's much more wrong in this world I can tell you but if you “don't get it” with the biolabs in Ukraine, you want to remain blind. People have unearth many videos of Bill Gates and other leaders of the World economic forum saying there are too many people on earth. You can find a 2010 TED talk on youtube where Bill Gates says we can control population with reproductive health care(fancy name for abortions), and vaccines. The current vaccines are compromising people's reproductive systems and immune systems the way HIV does which can lead to AIDS. Later in life you will easily get sick from something else which in turn will kill you. In my circle of friends, I know one guy who's testicles grew to the size of tennis balls and 5 women who miscarried after taking the vaccine. Other tools for world depopulation are war and inflation. People are less likely to have kids when life is expensive in a world where the future is uncertain.
Some of your heroes in politics want us to be uncomfortable and promote human suffering while propaganda media tells you it's someone else's fault. They get rich when there are problems. If government and life is running smooth, we are less likely to donate money since there are no problems to fix.
Guys like George Soros and his organizations are banned by a few countries including Russia. He should be banned if not imprisoned by America. He has funded election law change in America making it easier to cheat and he has installed puppet politicians in our government to influence policy. Our tax dollars are sent around the world to make biological weapons as a sample of the evil Soros has done on our nation.
I am ashamed of what America has become. Our government leaders are imposters controlled by others. They cheated their way into power and are making the world a more dangerous place with policies that enrich themselves and destroy humanity with a propaganda media that portrays them as the good guys.
What can be done? Follow the links I provided in the past. Wake up and become active in this fight. We are in an information war and they've turned most of us into sheeple. I've been to 4 public hearings with some of my state Representatives telling us of the corruption and they want to stop the election fraud. Trump is spending heavily thiring people to go all over the country to educate us about what is going on. Our government at all levels are being taken over. Our school boards are promoting Communist ideologies. Our media fails to expose corrupt politicians and promoting stories that get us to hate each other to the point we are fighting and focusing on each other instead of our government. Black against white, women, against men, Christians against Muslims, straight against gays are all engineered problems created by our government, not created by ourselves.
Where are we at in this fight? Good people are fighting on behalf of all of us which most of us still asleep and don't know what is going on. We already have one election fraud case in the Supreme Court. How many of you know that? If you didn't know that, switch media sources you rely on. They want to keep you ignorant. The case has been there over 120 days and it hasn't been rejected. It has been assigned a case number but the case has been sealed so we can't monitor the progress. We are trying to get at least two more election fraud cases into the Supreme Court and they may happen soon. Hopefully the Judicial Branch will act independent instead of being a puppet of the other two branches and do the right thing. Hopefully we will wake up one day with them ordering the removal of the corrupt government and order new elections. Unfortunately SCOTUS chief Judge Roberts flew on Epstein's Lolita Express and he may be compromised. Notice how he regularly voted on the right changed to now voting on the left after flying on the Lolita Express? Last time SCOTUS made a very bad decision was denying Dred Scott, a black man, freedom because he didn't have standing in court because he was a slave, not a citizen. It led to the Civil War. If we don't reverse course, this world is going to become a very dangerous place with America providing most of the financing for the danger. The World Economic forum says the population should be reduced to 500 million people. 15 out of every 16 people need to go. You can be part of the cattle herd that voluntarily walks into the slaughter house or you can resist. Resist the media, resist the corrupt governments, and resist the vaccines.
Some people in the Catholic church say the Pope is Satan and the Deep Church is in control just as the Deep State is in control of Western governments. I talked to a Catholic priest recently. He too believes Satan has infiltrated the Catholic church. We both agree there is a battle for our lives, our future generations and our souls.
Your media doesn't want you to know about this and the other cases approaching the front door of SCOTUS. Look at the remedy that's being asked. If you care about Ukraine and want peace in this world, pray that we win. Our current governments in power want war.
http://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn%3Aaaid%3Ascds%3AUS%3A9b67a285-ea97-47c2-8219-2e6a361c11c8&fbclid=IwAR3hVhEnW9eIE1RLy47Vs6XJxseNdbHjP6KnqGLMY-db8Gg5ste3NjoIXQ0#pageNum=1
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I absolutely agree that's their plan.
Has been all along.
That is a very fine line to tread of invading to.install new regime the general public will accept.
Possible in Ukraine? Yes.
I think it's unlikely ,and becomes more unlikely as this draws out.
So then in Putins chess game ,if that becomes clear it isnt a possibility, what's next...
Heaven forbid!
The encirclement will simply starve out the Ukrainians within by cutting off their supplies. Putin could well sit this one out as long as it takes, or via these negotiations, until his objectives are obtained - or maybe even a politically compromised version of one.
As for the point this guy makes about arming civilians/videos of civilians dead - I admit that is a very valid point.
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......I'm here to tell you that America and Western Europe want this war in Ukraine. Get mad at them. There are a variety of reasons Putin is attacking Ukraine and some are actually good reasons.
......Because Putin isn't going all out in this war tells me he's not totally evil.
......I am ashamed of what America has become.
BillyB, You aren't dead yet!
I've lost a lot of respect for America a while back. Somewhere along the way we have become a major global problem.
...Putin will be considered a war criminal after this (By the West), and will always have a bullseye on him...he has less and less to lose.
Fathertime!
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I absolutely agree that's their plan.
Has been all along.
That is a very fine line to tread of invading to.install new regime the general public will accept.
Possible in Ukraine? Yes.
I think it's unlikely ,and becomes more unlikely as this draws out.
So then in Putins chess game ,if that becomes clear it isnt a possibility, what's next...
They assumed the population would not resist them. That was a major miscalculation.
Ukrainians have died for free elections. I don't think they really cared whether politically, they leaned to Russia vs the EU. It's always been about living a better life, with freedom. Ukraine is corrupt, its politicians compromised. It's messy. But, it is free and those politicians are democratically elected. It will take decades, probably a century or two, before Ukraine is free of corruption. But Ukrainians deserve the freedom they protested and died for. What they don't deserve is to be a Russian vassal state, for a Russia that is not only authoritarian, but also as corrupt as Ukraine.
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This American guy is inside Kyiv...shares his perspective of how this is really shaping in Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo
There's a validity in what he's saying as to why Russian troops are circling and stopping 20 miles out of the major cities, including Kyiv.
This is an excellent explanation. Perhaps it is true.
It seems that zelensky and the West have rallied the Ukrainians to fight and that will bode badly for them the longer it continues....in my opinion. It may be considered a 'win' for Europe and the US, as Russia will have a damaged country to siphon some of their resources. Of course, Russia can raise the price of their natural resources though, so if that happens it will be the common people that pay across Europe.
Fathertime!
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http://www.stcu.int/documents/reports/distribution/tpf/ipf/bio/ua/pdf/UAPRI_IPF_Odesa_Ukraine.pdf (http://www.stcu.int/documents/reports/distribution/tpf/ipf/bio/ua/pdf/UAPRI_IPF_Odesa_Ukraine.pdf)
Hah! Censored!!!
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This is an excellent explanation. Perhaps it is true.
It seems that zelensky and the West have rallied the Ukrainians to fight and that will bode badly for them the longer it continues....in my opinion. It may be considered a 'win' for Europe and the US, as Russia will have a damaged country to siphon some of their resources. Of course, Russia can raise the price of their natural resources though, so if that happens it will be the common people that pay across Europe.
Fathertime!
No, I think the analysis doesn't take into account that people, in general, don't like to be ruled by foreign powers. I know people who work in the government of Ukraine, at the highest levels. I know the several of the lawyers who drafted Ukraine's constitution. No matter what some here say, their government is not run by the US, or the EU. Were it, it would be more efficient than it is. That is why Ukrainians are fighting. They don't want a puppet regime installed.
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Hah! Censored!!!
I could open it. It's just a brochure for an epidemiological institute in Odesa. It studies infectious disease.
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I absolutely agree that's their plan.
Has been all along.
That is a very fine line to tread of invading to.install new regime the general public will accept.
Possible in Ukraine? Yes.
I think it's unlikely ,and becomes more unlikely as this draws out.
So then in Putins chess game ,if that becomes clear it isnt a possibility, what's next...
I didn't watch it all...as soon as he said Putin is avoiding targeting civilians i turned it off.
How does that tally up with his use of Grad missiles against civilians in Kharkiv today ?
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I could open it. It's just a brochure for an epidemiological institute in Odesa. It studies infectious disease.
Yep i read it.
Nothing there to justify Putin invading Ukraine and killing civilians.
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This American guy is inside Kyiv...shares his perspective of how this is really shaping in Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo
This is total BS. The guy is a Russian plant.
Sure the civilian population will be happy to be taken over since they aren't being killed and only their soldier husbands and sons are being killed.
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This American guy is inside Kyiv...shares his perspective of how this is really shaping in Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo
Thinking that a city that is supported by nations (outside of Russia) around the world can be starved out is beyond ridiculous. I guess many haven't even heard of the Berlin airlifts.
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This American guy is inside Kyiv...shares his perspective of how this is really shaping in Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo
And more lies about Russia trying to avoid civilian killings.
http://www.google.com/search?q=civilians+being+killed+in+Kharkiv&oq=civilians+being+killed+in+Kharkiv&aqs=chrome..69i57.8664j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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It seems that many European nations are ignoring Mad Vlad's threat regarding Nukes.
Sweden and Germany sending valuable weapons.
Some others sending warplanes.
Will Mad Vlad's Generals ignore his order to launch ?
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Wife says that locals in Ukraine have reported that some Belarus soldiers have refused orders to attack into Ukraine.
I don't see anything about that on Internet.
Anyone have info ?
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I wanted to come back to make one very important post so you all have a better understanding of what is going on. Forget everything you learned from the media about Ukraine, Afghanistan, politics, and other issues around the world. The truth is our Western media puts out as much propaganda as the media in countries you despise. WE are in an information war and most people's minds do not know what is going on which means most people are incapacitated. How do you resist and fight back when you don't understand there is a problem?
Billy, I thought your absence meant you were in treatment for your hallucinations.
Have you now gone off of your treatment regimen?
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I wanted to come back to make one very important post ...
BillyB-
I thought you caught the bug and got vaccinated and too embarrassed to come back and admit it here! :P
C'mon...surely you can post two or 3 more posts?
Is your MIL still in UA, or here with you guys?
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Wife says that locals in Ukraine have reported that some Belarus soldiers have refused orders to attack into Ukraine.
I don't see anything about that on Internet.
Anyone have info ?
Not sure that Belarus has ordered any on ground yet. They are coming today in 20 helicopters.
Russians have been walking out for several days.
http://www.unian.ua/war/na-moskvu-svojim-hodom-na-sumshchini-okupanti-kinuli-tehniku-ta-pishli-v-rf-pishki-video-novini-donbasu-11722486.html (http://www.unian.ua/war/na-moskvu-svojim-hodom-na-sumshchini-okupanti-kinuli-tehniku-ta-pishli-v-rf-pishki-video-novini-donbasu-11722486.html)
http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/pod-zaporozhem-okkupanty-brosili-btry-i-sbezhali-na-otzhatyh-avtomobilyah-1605894.html (http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/pod-zaporozhem-okkupanty-brosili-btry-i-sbezhali-na-otzhatyh-avtomobilyah-1605894.html)
"The locals also learned from the Russian military that they were given dry rations for two days, but the invasion dragged on and famine set in." Also the dry rations given had an expiration date of 2015.
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Billy it's great to see you post on here after what seems a time ago. I've wondered what you would have made of the present situation. I have wondered if all the virus and present situation where we might be dragged into a war is a way to cut down on population. We shall see I guess. Zelensky seems to be gunning to drag the EU/NATO into this conflict and if he succeed for me that spells WWIII. I wonder if it's all a lot of gameplay put on for show and the outcome is already agreed upon that we will end up in a world war to cut the population down. I sincerely hope kit which is why I really hope the war will be kept to Ukraine.
I think you make a good point as to why Russia hasn't gone in more heavy there does indeed seem something curiously amiss there.
I myself have no wish to jump into the ins & outs of talk or evidence of bio labs. That stuff is way too heavy for me to want to indulge. I'm not saying if anyone is wrong or right just that it's not something I wish to entertain. I am generally in favour of Ukraine but have my on reservations on it all. I don't wish to see Zelensky join or drag the EU & NATO into this and I am hoping there isn't a lot more gameplay at hand than on the face of it.
Only time will tell but for me if there is a move that ropes the EU/NATO into a conflict I will not be a part of it and will be off to avoid it all as best I can.
I personally believe the planet is overpopulated and that it is plausible that these are the ways of cutting down on the population by our leaders. Of course the real big population center is India so I guess that would be the place they should target, maybe too obvious or maybe there is no grand plan, who knows, guess we'll find out soon if they chose to go world war direction with all of this. I recall Krim on here also believed in a Russia/Ukraine war after the virus and terrible things. So perhaps sone people know some things. Either it will happen or it won't I guess.
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If anyone drags NATO into this it will be Mad Vlad ...with his Nuclear Weapons threats.
He wasn't just threatening Ukraine with Nuclear weapons.
You will be part of it if the Nukes start flying..and you can thank Putin for that.
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Ukraine pilots will fly out of Poland airstrips with 70 donated planes from Poland, Bulgaria, Slovakia.
http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/evropa-peredast-ukraine-70-istrebiteley-mig-29-i-su-25-dlya-aviaudarov-po-agressoru-1605977.html
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Ukraine pilots will fly out of Poland airstrips with 70 donated planes from Poland, Bulgaria, Slovakia.
http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/evropa-peredast-ukraine-70-istrebiteley-mig-29-i-su-25-dlya-aviaudarov-po-agressoru-1605977.html (http://ukraine.segodnya.ua/ukraine/evropa-peredast-ukraine-70-istrebiteley-mig-29-i-su-25-dlya-aviaudarov-po-agressoru-1605977.html)
Interesting. Unless the Ruskies missed an airfield or two, one has to wonder where will they land these planes, fuel and take-off again? I'm certain the Ruskies have satellites too to see these (airfields) from space? Of course, if they fly from and back again in Poland to refuel/re-arm, then technically Poland had joined the war, no?
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Need to be careful of what Ukraine says.
The President thanked Turkey for closing access to the Black Sea to Russian naval forces....when they hadn't.
It would be asking for trouble from Russia if Ukrainian fighters are flying in and out of Poland,unless NATO want to use Russia bombing Polish airfields as a pretext to bring them into the war.
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I could open it. It's just a brochure for an epidemiological institute in Odesa. It studies infectious disease.
Bio labs are understandably the new catch phrase of conspiracy.
They are needed,are generally everywhere (making conspiracy ties easy)
and instrumental in forwarding healthcare.
I do wish there were even more stringent regulations world wide regarding what is reasonably safe in the direction of research.
But it is pretty far out there to thinkn
putins hitting biolabs as a good guy .
Im.sure he might try to spin it though along with thst nazi line
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Need to be careful of what Ukraine says.
The President thanked Turkey for closing access to the Black Sea to Russian naval forces....when they hadn't.
It would be asking for trouble from Russia if Ukrainian fighters are flying in and out of Poland,unless NATO want to use Russia bombing Polish airfields as a pretext to bring them into the war.
http://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-implement-international-pact-access-shipping-straits-due-ukraine-war-2022-02-27/ (http://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-implement-international-pact-access-shipping-straits-due-ukraine-war-2022-02-27/)
I assume Zelensky was told of the impending meeting in Turkey, and the inevitable outcome.
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I didn't watch it all...as soon as he said Putin is avoiding targeting civilians i turned it off.
How does that tally up with his use of Grad missiles against civilians in Kharkiv today ?
I'm no putin apologist.
I recognize that he hasnt hit as hard as he could have ,and he has self interest in that.
Certainly there are civilian causalities and since I have family there it's a huge concern.
There is no legitimate excuse for invading Ukraine.
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Yeah it sounds to reason that they would have lost similar to the Russians. The other figures I think we're just for civilians though that figure may have not been all that certain or a daily figure.
The general idea I get is that the two sides seem fairly evenly matched with the cities giving the Ukrainians a good defensive position. Apparently the main bulk of Russia's Army hadn't reached Kyiv yet so they are kind off making pretty slow progress.
If the Russian economy starts to do real bad then that is what might end this war for the Russians, eventually.
I think you misread what i posted Trench.
It was Russian losses the Ukrainian President spoke about.
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Interesting. Unless the Ruskies missed an airfield or two, one has to wonder where will they land these planes, fuel and take-off again? I'm certain the Ruskies have satellites too to see these (airfields) from space? Of course, if they fly from and back again in Poland to refuel/re-arm, then technically Poland had joined the war, no?
They dint miss ahh major ones.
That said they did not detroy or completely incapacitate the ones they hit .
Oddly with the overwhelmingly amount of air power they have , it hasnt really been used.
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I think you misread what i posted Trench.
It was Russian losses the Ukrainian President spoke about.
Ah yeah just looked up. That's the interesting thing that Ukraine won't state the number of soldiers they have lost. They seem to know how many Russia has lost but not their own side, curious? While I'm sympathetic towards Ukraine's struggle I'm not sure they are being transparent with us as they should be in what they put out. In particular I am wary of Zelensky and his attempts to try and get the EU/NATO into this. Today he was videoed putting in an application to join the EU, that's something that would not be right to happen I believe.
Aside from trying to drag in Europe into a world war as we know the EU tends to have its own version of stifling a country of independence and self governance.
My guess as a military genius suggests that Ukraine is likely blowing just as many men as Russia, roughly almost a thousand a day. Some reports out today suggest that Putin may be willing to lose 50,000 Russian troops by sticking with surgical strikes rather than pins Ukraine with missiles. That suggests to me that he doesn't wish to have a chapter in the history books on how he butchered Ukrainian civilians en-masse. Russian troop losses are easier to explain as that which comes with war. Civilians losing many loved ones will of course be ingrained on minds for much longer and that would make future Russian/Ukrainian relations very difficult indeed.
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They dint miss ahh major ones.
That said they did not detroy or completely incapacitate the ones they hit .
Oddly with the overwhelmingly amount of air power they have , it hasnt really been used.
Hardly at all. It doesn't look at all like an invasion even when watching the news. The trains are still running on time. With Russia's firepower in an invasion, one would expect communications, roads, bridges, trains and utilities to be the first thing to go. Not the case here yet, we're still not getting much truth in news but we've come to expect that.
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My SIL has been sitting either in the bathroom of her apartment (no outside walls) or in a shelter since Friday. Why? Because bombs have been falling continuously. She hears continuous shooting. She lives near a municipal airport. Also about 1 km from a rail station that supplies the city with goods, and where things are loaded for distribution. She has listened to children crying for days. She learned a family she knows was gunned down by Russian soldiers on the road to an escape. Internet is intermittent, as we've learned in trying to communicate with her.
Today, she told hubby that Kyiv is encircled by fire.
My husband's cousin took her children and very young grandchildren to her husband's village, where they have a dacha (the home he grew up in). They were worried for the safety of the children.
I guess I should tell both of them that someone on the internet says there is no invasion, and that it's all a fantasy in their heads.
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They dint miss ahh major ones.
That said they did not detroy or completely incapacitate the ones they hit .
Oddly with the overwhelmingly amount of air power they have , it hasnt really been used.
I agree. Which I would go back to what the guy upthread said. This invasion wasn't planned for total annihilation of Ukraine e.g USA-style, but rather to replace the political body, good or bad - just or unjustly; that would ultimately be more pro-Russian.
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I guess I should tell both of them that someone on the internet says there is no invasion, and that it's all a fantasy in their heads.
I didn't say there was no invasion. What do I know, I'm not there? You should tell them to make sure they're jabbed, triple mask and social distance at the dacha.
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Wife talked to a friend in Ukraine today.
This woman had received a phone call from an in-law of hers who lives in SPb, Russia.
The woman in Russia said:
Don't worry, soon Putin will take you over and then everything will be OK.
The Ukrainian woman immediately ended the phone call and blocked the woman from ever calling her again.
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I didn't say there was no invasion. What do I know, I'm not there? You should tell them to make sure they're jabbed, triple mask and social distance at the dacha.
The adults are vaccinated.
I am telling you what's going on, yet you blame the "West" for a brutal invasion of a sovereign nation. People are dying needlessly, and no, the West didn't orchestrate this invasion.
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The adults are vaccinated.
I am telling you what's going on, yet you blame the "West" for a brutal invasion of a sovereign nation. People are dying needlessly, and no, the West didn't orchestrate this invasion.
Really? Where exactly did I state that?
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There unfortunately seems to be a dangerous momentum for approving Ukraine for EU Membership:
http://inews.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-eu-will-join-membership-european-union-what-happened-why-hasnt-joined-explained-1489006
Whether that will happen during the invasion or after a Ukrainian victory who knows. Of course if Russia wins Ukraine won't be joining the EU, the only upside perhaps. Today Zelensky put in an application to formally apply to join the EU but no referendum of its citizens had taken place to ask them if they wish to join the EU? Democratic? Automatically out the window by the looks of it from the get go.
If Ukraine joined the EU will the, 'If one is attacked we are all attacked' be the case thereby committing all member states to the fight against Russia?
That of course could have a knock on effect to NATO members who are not part of the EU like the UK & US. If the Eastern Bloc EU member states get dragged into war that way then as NATO members we might be too. That I don't believe is a just system to drag us into war by trickery.
I think more questions and scrutiny needs to be made of Zelensky's efforts to get Ukraine admitted to the EU. After all until recent Ukraine was not in a decent enough economic position to join the EU and reforms to counter corruption and other reforms had not been extensive enough. Yet here all of a sudden none of that matters that was supposed to even when their economy is likely much worse than it was a couple of years or so ago. Even if they join the EU one way or another I can see no good coming of it. I'm certainly glad we left.
I think this is potentially a very real danger of causing a world war which we should all be trying to avoid.
Just read this article:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-join-eu-parliament-war-b2025174.html
Apparently it is just candidate status that is awarded first and it's a process that can take many years (typical EU) so with a bit of luck it won't be rammed through quickly. So just have to hope the same holds true and we won't be fast tracked to WWIII.
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Alright, a couple more posts. One here and one on vaccines later on to let you know what it's doing to your body. Your western leaders of the new world order are no angels I tell ya. First funding the creation of the virus and releasing it and now forcing something into your body that doesn't work and will shorten your life span.
My MIL is in Ukraine to answer GQ's question.
It doesn't matter what I think if your neighbor is manufacturing experimental drugs. I could claim your neighbor is making the drugs in a safe responsible manner and for a good reason but you have the right to call the cops to shut it down. Russia has no cops to call so they have the right to police the creation of super viruses and bacteria next door. Some call it gain of function research and others call it weapons of mass destruction. There is no conspiracy. Its a fact Ukraine has numerous biolabs funded by the West including by civilians such as Soros involved in creating the worlds worst pathogens under the disguise of finding better medicine. Ask yourself why America and Europe doesn't build these labs at home but instead build it in a country where corruption is rampant, security is loose, and it would enrage one of the most powerful nations on earth. They aren't stupid. They put Ukraine in danger of war on purpose. They have used Ukraine like a cheap hooker. Biolabs isn't the sole reason Russia is invading but it's just one of many Deep State projects that Russia wants to shut down.
As Ukraine signs for EU membership during an invasion further enraging Russia, Belarus has a referendum approving themselves to be a nuclear state which allows them to receive Russian nukes. Nations are starting to form alliances like they did before WWI and WWII. Don't you guy see what is happening? Our Western leaders every move moves us closer to world war.
http://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/02/28/eu-decries-potential-russian-nuclear-weapons-deployment-after-belarus-referendum/ (http://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/02/28/eu-decries-potential-russian-nuclear-weapons-deployment-after-belarus-referendum/)
Besides claiming to fight for Ukraine, the Ukrainian prime minister said they're also fighting on behalf of the New World Order. That should enrage Putin. Putin once said the New World Order worships Satan. Putin is right about that. Their releasing of a bioweapon and experimental vaccines on the world is proof.
http://t.me/behizy/2696 (http://t.me/behizy/2696)
You guys know there's been constant war around the world for the last 20 years but we only get mad when they tell us to get mad? Don't let them manipulate you into supporting escalating aggression that could turn into world war where hundreds of millions will die, borders change, and the resetting of economies will happen. If you end up surviving, you may not like the results.
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As Ukraine signs for EU membership during an invasion further enraging Russia, Belarus has a referendum approving themselves to be a nuclear state which allows them to receive Russian nukes. Nations are starting to form alliances like they did before WWI and WWII. Don't you guy see what is happening? Our Western leaders every move moves us closer to world war.
I recall making this point several years ago here regarding Russia giving their Nukes to their friends. The forum know it alls poopoo'ed the thought of it. It's much closer to reality now. Syria gets bombed from time to time by Israel (US supports this), give them a few nukes too, and the bombing stops.
I see the West as trying very hard to provoke war, a war that will only produce losers. The people in South America, Africa, India, and around the globe don't need to pay consequences of a war with nuclear weapons. Not to mention regular people in the nations involved.
You guys know there's been constant war around the world for the last 20 years but we only get mad when they tell us to get mad? Don't let them manipulate you into supporting escalating aggression that could turn into world war where hundreds of millions will die, borders change, and the resetting of economies will happen. If you end up surviving, you may not like the results.[/size]
I was listening to talk radio on the way home today. Commentator said that the US and Europe have confiscated trillions in Russian money. Once this battle is over, and the West tries to hold it, Russia will seemingly have little way to get their money returned....seemingly. How much is Hawaii worth. Drop a nuclear bomb beneath the ocean creating a tsunami wiping out all the people and islands...and they call it even, everybody loses, especially a few million people on the islands. The few cards Russia has to play are related to nuclear weaponry, and I think Putin would use those weapons if backed into a corner. Biden like a bellicose baboon flinging feces, seems to be intentionally trying to back Putin in that corner covered with feces and a dunce cap. Russia is about to level Ukraine, and the US is talking about sending more weaponry. There will be nobody left to operate the weaponry, there will be no buildings to run for cover in. I hope what I say is incorrect, but it seems to me the polite and finesse takeover hasn't worked according to plan....I hope most all the civilians find a way out asap.
Fathertime!
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Commentator said that the US and Europe have confiscated trillions in Russian money.
How would they know that?
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How would they know that?
You are probably correct, it was talk radio and he may have just pulled that number from his ass. He did reiterate the trillions figure. I also question the number, but perhaps it is possible. It seems billions would be more accurate though.
Fathertime!
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If the Russians were called to withdraw to the borders quickly...It may mean that a chemical attack is next on the agenda.
Probably not enough gas masks to go around.
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Really? Where exactly did I state that?
From elsewhere -
All of the West together" of course they were the same ones pounding the drums of war before the conflict.
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yet you blame the "West" for a brutal invasion of a sovereign nation.
From elsewhere -
All of the West together" of course they were the same ones pounding the drums of war before the conflict.
Swing and a miss! Would you like to try again? And please, stay on topic this time
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why swing and miss? I also read your post elsewhere.
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At the current condition Ukraine finds itself in, I fail to see the point of the whole drama the EU made about accepting Ukraine’s application to join the Union. I thought one of the fundamental requirement for admittance was a country must first proved its void of government corruption, and prior to the invasion, it was deemed Ukraine wasn’t quite there yet?
Now if this was for show, and rather ‘accepting’ an application was a symbol of some silly unity theatrics, wouldn’t this just became a stupid act of stoking the fire at a very bad time for Ukraine/Zelensky?
Not all good intentions yield desired result. Sometimes it only results to a very bad decision. Methinks someone just inked someone’s death certificate here.
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Putin must be getting desperate ...Belarus troops have now entered Ukraine,no doubt at his bidding.
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At the current condition Ukraine finds itself in, I fail to see the point of the whole drama the EU made about accepting Ukraine’s application to join the Union. I thought one of the fundamental requirement for admittance was a country must first proved its void of government corruption, and prior to the invasion, it was deemed Ukraine wasn’t quite there yet?
Now if this was for show, and rather ‘accepting’ an application was a symbol of some silly unity theatrics, wouldn’t this just became a stupid act of stoking the fire at a very bad time for Ukraine/Zelensky?
Not all good intentions yield desired result. Sometimes it only results to a very bad decision. Methinks someone just inked someone’s death certificate here.
That I find very true GQ, when some people bang on about stuff that sounds like its a great moralistic thing the end result doesn't necessarily match up. They are so caught up on the high morals of it all they fail to look any further as too actually looking into the results of such a stance they think it will be great but they fail to realise that's just a presumed assumption not necessarily the outcome.
Well Ukraine is apparently seeking a fast track to EU membership that apparently doesn't exist. As this article amount others tellks us EU membership takes many, many years moreso if the economy of the country applying is not in shape and able to adopt the Euro:
http://www.ft.com/content/a64c2b7a-dda4-4452-ad04-f308ff26e694
I believe you are right also in corruption being an issue that has to be ironed out as well. So currently under current rules applied as they should be Ukraine shouldn't have a hope in hell of joining. Unfortunately Zelensky is on a acting performance worthy of a Golden Globe and wants to ride high on the outpouring of support for Ukraine all the way into the EU on a quick easy in just for Ukraine. As you rightly say that will be like writing a death warrant. While I'm sympathetic to Ukraine I think people need to really calm down now and not let Zelensky take advantage unduly by what will in affect chain us up with him into a world war.
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60 kilometers of troop convoy heading to Kyiv. Now that the countries who announced sending war planes to Ukraine thought better of it and rescinded that nutty idea, I hope Zelensky take this time to usher all the civilians still inside the capital to leave. This should be one of his prime objective during these ceasefire negotiations that is ongoing, instead of asking civilians to take up arms.
I respect him wanting to stay behind to fight till the end. All those willing to die for their country, too. But at least give the women and children the time to leave unharmed out of the capital. Give the saber rattling a rest and stop playing hero ball. Zelensky shouldn't take as many Ukrainians with him because that's exactly what's going to happen soon, especially with the west stoking every bit of this conflict as hard as it does.
Zelensky is totting the fine line of using his people as human shield. Learn what happened in Aleppo, Syria. You don't have much time.
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I dont think he is impeding any women and children leaving? I think on the ground there it is actually being encouraged if possible.
Although that may not be the sound bite for tv or media coverage?. If you need aid. You play the best card of human suffering to your audience, and honestly why not? He was partially put in this situation by those that, if wanting to play in ukraines politics,should be sending in aid or not play in the first place, bay of pigs style?
The russian troops certainly are part of that issue regarding Kyiv citizens leaving, or having any thought of that in any large numbers.
It's an issue in my mil case in Nikolaev.
While the troops are not in.the city today ,there are no buses or rail.running and the russian troops do stop anyone leaving on any roadway in or out.
Theres still.direct skirmishes and bombing as well
So it's not like they can just simply walk out,or get a mashruka , taxi.or.private car
Nor is Zelensky is in any position to help his civilian.population leave if he choose to.
It's a mess, and we can all point fingers all day at the various parties and policies that.shaped this,and continue to,but like always it's the common people who pay.
One things for certain, carried out in this manner, a new regime Putin puts in of any of his cronies will be facing nothing but huge issues on.many fronts ,politically,economically ,logistically in rebuilding,and most likely a continued resistance that ultimately they cant control.
If they crushed Ukraine tomorrow, odds are high they face a decade if strife and it regains independence anyway .
If its held it will still have Russua as the old. Ighieman in world view and both countries economic outlooks will be lower than pre invasion.
All this will likely be for nought.
How world leaders cant see 10 steps ahead is weird.
Putin is typically much better at political chess
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OH… MY… GOD
Q: “What’s going on in Ukraine?”
Kamala Harris: “Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine so basically that’s wrong.”
http://imgur.com/a/dHypwm8 (http://imgur.com/a/dHypwm8)
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OH… MY… GOD
Q: “What’s going on in Ukraine?”
Kamala Harris: “Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine so basically that’s wrong.”
http://imgur.com/a/dHypwm8 (http://imgur.com/a/dHypwm8)
I'll assume that was her. I don't object to the way she spoke because considering her audience they needed a lesson on the basics I'm sure....the audience is probably young with NO clue about either country.... that show listeners probably couldn't care less about Russia or Ukraine. I don't know anything about the 'morning hustle'.
Fathertime!
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Reports and photos show a column of Russian tanks and trucks some 40 miles long headed for Kyiv.
Seems like that would be the perfect opportunity to throw all the Javelins available at them. With that string, there would be no misses.
If some planes were available, they could do the same thing.
What am I missing here ?
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Putin must be getting desperate ...Belarus troops have now entered Ukraine,no doubt at his bidding.
Belarussian troops are now in Kyiv, according to my sources on the ground.
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It's almost impossible to leave Kyiv. People, including entire families, have been shot by Russian forces in their attempt to flee. If a person doesn't have a vehicle, it is now impossible.
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The Russians are now bombing civilian areas in Kharkhiv and Kyiv indiscriminately. This is a tactic they've used in all their wars.
I think sanctions have to be broadened. No Russian oil/gas in the West. No wheat. All bank accounts of Russian citizens locked, with a legal mechanism to get them unlocked for cause. Property abroad confiscated if the citizens are tied to the regime. The pressure has to come from within.
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I think sanctions have to be broadened. No Russian oil/gas in the West. No wheat. All bank accounts of Russian citizens locked, with a legal mechanism to get them unlocked for cause. Property abroad confiscated if the citizens are tied to the regime. The pressure has to come from within.
I agree.
News reporters crying that if Russian oil cut off, prices will rise in the west.
Who gives a shit about that??
I will willingly pay any price for gas and oil to stop Russia.
Going to cost us a lot more in reconstruction expenses.
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It's almost impossible to leave Kyiv. People, including entire families, have been shot by Russian forces in their attempt to flee. If a person doesn't have a vehicle, it is now impossible.
at least 2 full trains from Kyiv arrived today in Poland.
I have a couple of friends in Poland at the trainstation helping with transports who was there when they both arrived.
One of the trains went back to Ukraine half filled with (mainly Ukrainian) men who lived and worked in West Europe, to join the defense.
Have no idea how long they will keep that up though.
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I dont think he is impeding any women and children leaving? I think on the ground there it is actually being encouraged if possible.
Although that may not be the sound bite for tv or media coverage?. If you need aid. You play the best card of human suffering to your audience, and honestly why not? He was partially put in this situation by those that, if wanting to play in ukraines politics,should be sending in aid or not play in the first place, bay of pigs style?
The russian troops certainly are part of that issue regarding Kyiv citizens leaving, or having any thought of that in any large numbers.
It's an issue in my mil case in Nikolaev.
While the troops are not in.the city today ,there are no buses or rail.running and the russian troops do stop anyone leaving on any roadway in or out.
Theres still.direct skirmishes and bombing as well
So it's not like they can just simply walk out,or get a mashruka , taxi.or.private car
Nor is Zelensky is in any position to help his civilian.population leave if he choose to.
It's a mess, and we can all point fingers all day at the various parties and policies that.shaped this,and continue to,but like always it's the common people who pay.
One things for certain, carried out in this manner, a new regime Putin puts in of any of his cronies will be facing nothing but huge issues on.many fronts ,politically,economically ,logistically in rebuilding,and most likely a continued resistance that ultimately they cant control.
If they crushed Ukraine tomorrow, odds are high they face a decade if strife and it regains independence anyway .
If its held it will still have Russua as the old. Ighieman in world view and both countries economic outlooks will be lower than pre invasion.
All this will likely be for nought.
How world leaders cant see 10 steps ahead is weird.
Putin is typically much better at political chess
This isn't difficult, AJ.
The core intent of this whole crap is Russian wanting to install a pro-Russian political body over the current one. In a way, just like what happened in 2014. Different method, same objective.
I know this seems so wacky, but given some thoughts, the USA, along with its allies, did exactly that in Libya at far bloodier than what we've seen in Ukraine so far. Heck, we gangbanged Libya (US, Europe, Canada, et al for its oil). The US attempted doing that in Cuba, did it in Iraq, Afghanistan. Succeeded doing exactly that in many So. American nations, etc...Europeans had done exactly that in Africa, Asia, Europe, etc...
Hell, we (US & NATO) bombed Serbia's civilian proper for 75 straight days because we want NATO to take hold in the region, and oust Milosevic at the same time, remember that?
Isn't it funny how certain similar things are perceived differently?
Again, if Zelensky's priority is with the people of Ukraine, make their safe passage out of Kyiv the very top condition in the negotiations, or his ousting in return to Russian army retreating back to Russia. I mean, the Shah left, so this isn't unprecedented. If he exiles himself, along with other politicians deemed anti-Russian, but Ukraine and all of its people can return back in peace, is his 'presidency' really that much more important than Ukraine itself?
Of course, his other option is dying fighting for whatever cause he feels, along with untold number of innocent Ukrainians, and maybe even Ukraine itself.
Just like what the 'west' did in Libya and Qadafi.
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Having been in the middle east in my younger days, I don't perceive those things as significantly different.
Regular people are routinely sacrificed for the self interest of major powers and the wealthy that influence them.
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To be honest men in Ukraine could probably leave if they wanted too, if not already in a city that is surrounded. The border with EU countries is so long that its merely a case of by-passing checkpoints by a considerable distance. Odds are if there was anything much in the way of border patrols on the Ukrainian side they will have been called away to the front. Border guards on the EU side will just treat them as any other asylum seeker so they aren't party to enforcing the 18-60 rule being another nation.
Other than not in Ukraine the area southwest of Lviv is probably the safest place to be in Ukraine right now and will likely be until the very end if the Russians adavance all the way in. So the Ukrainian 18-60 rule probably doesnt have a lot of teeth in reality unless stuck in an area surrounded by the Russians.
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There was continued bombing in Nikolaev today, also another troop assualt brought in by ships. In the vid I saw it was a pretty big line of them.
Because of rough seas during the drop ,the landing force was hampered, some drowned and this aided the defenders. At the moment the Russian troops have again pulled back some.
Niko is still in Ukrainian troops hands for now.
I have my doubts about tonight :(
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyWpNyE7Lyw
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http://youtu.be/x47eNyXmPDo
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10,000 vehicles entering Sumy area
http://www.segodnya.ua/regions/others/v-suskuyu-oblast-zashlo-bolee-10-tysyach-rossiyskih-tankov-zhivickiy-1606221.html
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Planes are bombing Kyiv right now.
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Apparently Kherson has or is about to fall, the city's Mayor has pretty much said so:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/mayor-of-kherson-in-southern-ukraine-occupation-of-our-city-is-under-way/
Russian troops have taken the port and the railway station. Whether Ukrainian forces are holding out in the rest of the city who knows. Kherson is surrounded so it's either a case of surrender there or fight to the death for Ukrainian soldiers there, that or mixing in with the local population but that is pretty much surrender anyway. Repealing the Russians looks unlikely there. If Kherson girl is there she'll be in for a bit of a time of it.
Mariupol too is in much the same situation, surrounded with heavy shelling. The first girl I met in Kyiv was from Mariupol so she will be in much the same circumstance.
Looks like overall Russian forces are starting to break through as the pressure mounts on Ukrainian troops.
Article also states that Russian forces have linked up with Separatists along the Azov sea which is what I mentioned they were likely looking to do last night.
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This isn't difficult, AJ.
The core intent of this whole crap is Russian wanting to install a pro-Russian political body over the current one. In a way, just like what happened in 2014. Different method, same objective.
I know this seems so wacky, but given some thoughts, the USA, along with its allies, did exactly that in Libya at far bloodier than what we've seen in Ukraine so far. Heck, we gangbanged Libya (US, Europe, Canada, et al for its oil). The US attempted doing that in Cuba, did it in Iraq, Afghanistan. Succeeded doing exactly that in many So. American nations, etc...Europeans had done exactly that in Africa, Asia, Europe, etc...
Hell, we (US & NATO) bombed Serbia's civilian proper for 75 straight days because we want NATO to take hold in the region, and oust Milosevic at the same time, remember that?
Isn't it funny how certain similar things are perceived differently?
Again, if Zelensky's priority is with the people of Ukraine, make their safe passage out of Kyiv the very top condition in the negotiations, or his ousting in return to Russian army retreating back to Russia. I mean, the Shah left, so this isn't unprecedented. If he exiles himself, along with other politicians deemed anti-Russian, but Ukraine and all of its people can return back in peace, is his 'presidency' really that much more important than Ukraine itself?
Of course, his other option is dying fighting for whatever cause he feels, along with untold number of innocent Ukrainians, and maybe even Ukraine itself.
Just like what the 'west' did in Libya and Qadafi.
Hi GQ.
I don't know you in real life. Perhaps you are swell guy.
Today T is flying from Boston to Warsaw. She will head over to do what she can to help.
We all have our viewpoints. You seem to constantly spread the bulls**t that Putin and Kremlin regurgitates. Your choice, of course. We have that freedom in America.
You are saying it is ok to invade another nation, to bomb it's cities, to subdue, expel and replace it's overwhelmingly patriotic population with what another nation's Dictator wants.
As we've seen in the many signs and exchanges in Ukraine to Russia, go f"" yourself. Idi Nahuey.
Slava Ukraini
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This isn't difficult, AJ.
The core intent of this whole crap is Russian wanting to install a pro-Russian political body over the current one. In a way, just like what happened in 2014. Different method, same objective.
I know this seems so wacky, but given some thoughts, the USA, along with its allies, did exactly that in Libya at far bloodier than what we've seen in Ukraine so far. Heck, we gangbanged Libya (US, Europe, Canada, et al for its oil). The US attempted doing that in Cuba, did it in Iraq, Afghanistan. Succeeded doing exactly that in many So. American nations, etc...Europeans had done exactly that in Africa, Asia, Europe, etc...
Hell, we (US & NATO) bombed Serbia's civilian proper for 75 straight days because we want NATO to take hold in the region, and oust Milosevic at the same time, remember that?
Isn't it funny how certain similar things are perceived differently?
Again, if Zelensky's priority is with the people of Ukraine, make their safe passage out of Kyiv the very top condition in the negotiations, or his ousting in return to Russian army retreating back to Russia. I mean, the Shah left, so this isn't unprecedented. If he exiles himself, along with other politicians deemed anti-Russian, but Ukraine and all of its people can return back in peace, is his 'presidency' really that much more important than Ukraine itself?
Of course, his other option is dying fighting for whatever cause he feels, along with untold number of innocent Ukrainians, and maybe even Ukraine itself.
Just like what the 'west' did in Libya and Qadafi.
While I get the personal connection on this particular website to Ukraine, it's still good to try to see things as logically as possible.
Russia is acting as poorly as we (The US) often are. Russia doesn't have the resources to get things done as politely as we do, which results in more brute force.
while western media tries to control the narrative entirely (Leaving out legit Russian concerns) Aside from Europe, there is a lot of world out there, and much of that world isn't going to side with the Europe and the US on this.
Ukraine is being used in an awful way. It is clear that Russia will continue to be as brutal as it has to be to achieve its goals. Ukrainians would like to fight, aside for their desires to fight they are fueled by false hope they are supported fully by Europe and North America. From a finaincial and reputation standpoint Russia is being punished greatly, but we wanted to do that to begin with. We wanted to torpedo their pipeline, so now that these missions are accomplished, Ukraine will mostly be left to fend for themselves. They should do whatever is in their own self-interest while remaining clear eyed regarding what they actually expect from the outside.
Fathertime!
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What choices do they have at this point?
The idea that zelensky lead them along is one possibility.
The other is,that no matter who was their president, if it was not a putin puppet ,they would be facing a forced regime change is fairly obvious.
So are they fighting for Ze? Or for an ideology and hope of actually being independent and of a better economically positioned ukrainevif tied more closely with Europe.
Perhaps, just perhaps they tire of the
ration of breadcrumbs dished out old Soviet style.
There is that possibility.
Good old George ,if losing to a far superior global force would look.much like GQs portrayal of Ze.
But maybe it wasn't the leader that defined that destiny.
Maybe it was general unrest against corruption, authoritarian non existant representation and an event to spark it.
Invasions might do that.
More sadly the underdog typically loses and the winner writes the history
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Hi GQ.
I don't know you in real life. Perhaps you are swell guy.
Today T is flying from Boston to Warsaw. She will head over to do what she can to help.
We all have our viewpoints. You seem to constantly spread the bulls**t that Putin and Kremlin regurgitates. Your choice, of course. We have that freedom in America.
You are saying it is ok to invade another nation, to bomb it's cities, to subdue, expel and replace it's overwhelmingly patriotic population with what another nation's Dictator wants.
As we've seen in the many signs and exchanges in Ukraine to Russia, go f"" yourself. Idi Nahuey.
Slava Ukraini
Funny. I hope that made you feel much better. As is always the case, certain caustic post are allowed to remain depending on who posts.
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Funny. I hope that made you feel much better. As is always the case, certain caustic post are allowed to remain depending on who posts.
More likely, the most frequent violators of forum guidelines have posts removed more frequently. They, predictably, complain about uneven moderation.
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Was watching a lot of reports from the BBC channel yesterday. Mostly regurgitated snippets of videos that's been played over and over again. Half the telecast shows the current plight of the refugees of this war. From Poland to Slovakia to Hungary and even Moldova. With the exception of the latter, I've been to each of those locale.
I am elated to see these nations open their borders widely for these arriving folks, Ukrainians and foreigners alike.
It wasn't too long ago when we witnessed the very same plight of refugees from Syria when that war broke out. Again, many nations opened their borders to welcome these folks.
I am however taken aback when the north African refugees, mostly from Libya, when we invaded and bombed that nation back to stone age, took flight to cross the sea that divide their war torn nation hope to reach Europe and many, if not most, fell to their death in the high seas, or gunned down by paid militants, or stopped at their departure points. Predictably, those moments weren't televised on western media, including the day/night bombing unto oblivion of Libya.
Joe Biden was asked yesterday at the SOTU shindig if he thinks Zelensky should leave Ukraine, to which he responded 'that's Zelensky's decision''. Sleepy Joe is hardly ever right in many of his decisions, but I would agree with him on this one. It is Zelensky's decision. The decision to stay and fight. I watch him everyday, along with the Klitschko brothers, saying the same thing.
One can only marvel at their collective bravery. You just know by watching them what is in their hearts. Misguided as it may be. People used to always say FSU folks are pragmatic folks. I myself laid witness to this at times.
Just not all the time. In the end, IMHO, UKraine matters more than any one, two even 3 persons. But that's just me.
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More likely, the most frequent violators of forum guidelines have posts removed more frequently. They, predictably, complain about uneven moderation.
Dan, I wasn't complaining. I simply noted what was evident.
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This isn't difficult, AJ.
The core intent of this whole crap is Russian wanting to install a pro-Russian political body over the current one. In a way, just like what happened in 2014. Different method, same objective.
I know this seems so wacky, but given some thoughts, the USA, along with its allies, did exactly that in Libya at far bloodier than what we've seen in Ukraine so far. Heck, we gangbanged Libya (US, Europe, Canada, et al for its oil). The US attempted doing that in Cuba, did it in Iraq, Afghanistan. Succeeded doing exactly that in many So. American nations, etc...Europeans had done exactly that in Africa, Asia, Europe, etc...
Hell, we (US & NATO) bombed Serbia's civilian proper for 75 straight days because we want NATO to take hold in the region, and oust Milosevic at the same time, remember that?
Isn't it funny how certain similar things are perceived differently?
Again, if Zelensky's priority is with the people of Ukraine, make their safe passage out of Kyiv the very top condition in the negotiations, or his ousting in return to Russian army retreating back to Russia. I mean, the Shah left, so this isn't unprecedented. If he exiles himself, along with other politicians deemed anti-Russian, but Ukraine and all of its people can return back in peace, is his 'presidency' really that much more important than Ukraine itself?
Of course, his other option is dying fighting for whatever cause he feels, along with untold number of innocent Ukrainians, and maybe even Ukraine itself.
Just like what the 'west' did in Libya and Qadafi.
Red Text = Appeal to hypocrisy. A tactic used to distract from the central issue. Totally irrelevant in addressing the CURRENT SITUATION.
Blue text = Failure to understand the ideologies in play.
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Dan, I wasn't complaining. I simply noted what was evident.
As was I.
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Red Text = Appeal to hypocrisy. A tactic used to distract from the central issue. Totally irrelevant in addressing the CURRENT SITUATION.
I don't agree. You have the hypocrisy issue in reverse.
Blue text = Failure to understand the ideologies in play.
What's more ideal than NOT implicating the innocent lives that are at stake in this war? IMHO, this was LARGELY avoidable.
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As was I.
I'm elated you agree.
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I don't agree. You have the hypocrisy issue in reverse.
What's more ideal than NOT implicating the innocent lives that are at stake in this war? IMHO, this was LARGELY avoidable.
Milosevic has absolutely NOTHING to do with what is happening in Ukraine RIGHT NOW. Libya has absolutely NOTHING to do with what is happening in Ukraine RIGHT NOW. Cuba has absolutely NOTHING to do with what is happening in Ukraine RIGHT NOW.
No, I do not have the "hypocrisy issue in reverse." Apparently you don't recognize your own appeal to hypocrisy to use as a bolster for your argument.
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I'm elated you agree.
Don't confuse confirmation with agreement.
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Milosevic has absolutely NOTHING to do with what is happening in Ukraine RIGHT NOW. Libya has absolutely NOTHING to do with what is happening in Ukraine RIGHT NOW. Cuba has absolutely NOTHING to do with what is happening in Ukraine RIGHT NOW.
No, I do not have the "hypocrisy issue in reverse." Apparently you don't recognize your own appeal to hypocrisy to use as a bolster for your argument.
Like I said, I disagree with you. The same historical events repeating itself with the same motives, ambitions and cause. I am in fact deeply saddened the current war is happening in Ukraine, as I did when it happened in Libya, Syria, Iraq et al. History repeating itself, and calling it out, is NOT being hypocritical simply because the perpetrators changed side.
Barbarism and evil isn't simply classified on who is pulling the trigger.
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Don't confuse confirmation with agreement.
Then that's simply another one we can agree to disagree on. That's life.
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Like I said, I disagree with you. The same historical events repeating itself with the same motives, ambitions and cause. I am in fact deeply saddened the current war is happening in Ukraine, as I did when it happened in Libya, Syria, Iraq et al. History repeating itself, and calling it out, is NOT being hypocritical simply because the perpetrators changed side.
Barbarism and evil isn't simply classified on who is pulling the trigger.
Not true. You presented a one-dimensional perspective of past events involving US/West powers that you perceive as evil and present them alongside the current situation in Ukraine. One has nothing to do with the other. Especially when your one-dimensional perspective FAILS to present the CURRENT aggressor and their past events.
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Not true. You presented a one-dimensional perspective of past events involving US/West powers that you perceive as evil and present them alongside the current situation in Ukraine. One has nothing to do with the other. Especially when your one-dimensional perspective FAILS to present the CURRENT aggressor and their past events.
What you seem to dismiss is, whether intentionally or otherwise, the underlying point that I make that 'the politics of war is wrong' regardless on who is behind the trigger. Evil is evil.
It is always the innocent lives in any region or country in these hostilities, whether currently or 10-100 years ago, is and always will be the victims in any of these geo-political BS.
BTW, I did not 'failed' to cite the current aggressor's historical past. I cited Georgia, Chechnya, and if you dig deeper, Cuba, Afghanistan, the Prague spring, etc...the 'west, US, Russia are all one and the same idiots playing goofballs in a sandlot.
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BTW, I did not 'failed' to cite the current aggressor's historical past. I cited Georgia, Chechnya, and if you dig deeper, Cuba, Afghanistan, the Prague spring, etc...the 'west, US, Russia are all one and the same idiots playing goofballs in a sandlot.
As I wrote earlier, you fail to recognize the ideologies in play.
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As I wrote earlier, you fail to recognize the ideologies in play.
I believe Dan, it is you who sees the global geopolitical landscape in a one dimensional lens. I refuse to look at things in a biased selective lens, is all.
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Red Text = Appeal to hypocrisy. A tactic used to distract from the central issue. Totally irrelevant in addressing the CURRENT SITUATION.
I think it all ties in. The west, more specifically the US has made grabs in the past, more delicately because it often a large block of nations that all chime in. That was also incorrect to do, nevertheless it is done and now history. Meanwhile another large power (Russia) is in the midst of brutally doing something not much different. It will be more brutal perhaps. It seems if they don't take some large action, they would have another nation sanctioning them at every step of the way, as all the other European nations are. While the events that are taking place and will be taking place are going to be abhorrent, it is the way the world works nowadays. Cherry picking which events to condemn and take action on is typical.
As far as the current situation, It seems Ukraine is going to be more tied to Russia than they would have liked. It is as much a defensive move as it is offensive. I think Ukraine would have eventually leaned more and more west, and at some point, when something else was going on, they would have been one of those nations that was sanctioning this or that. Russia wasn't going to let that happen. We didn't let it happen in Cuba and were close to nuclear war over it. That is the way I see it.
Fathertime!
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Were Russia democratic, rather than authoritarian, Ukraine would have leaned more to Russia. Even as late as 2020, Russia was Ukraine's third largest trading partner. Over 5 million Ukrainian citizens live in Russia. There are familial ties in both countries going back centuries.
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The Russian Federation had scheduled to publish an announcement in the prevision of the victory Saturday.
And quickly removed it. But some people noticed it.
Here is the summary of the text, among some other information gathered for this 7th day of the war.
http://youtu.be/h7cG4XMWu_k (http://youtu.be/h7cG4XMWu_k)
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I think it all ties in. The west, more specifically the US has made grabs in the past, more delicately because it often a large block of nations that all chime in. That was also incorrect to do, nevertheless it is done and now history. Meanwhile another large power (Russia) is in the midst of brutally doing something not much different. It will be more brutal perhaps. It seems if they don't take some large action, they would have another nation sanctioning them at every step of the way, as all the other European nations are. While the events that are taking place and will be taking place are going to be abhorrent, it is the way the world works nowadays. Cherry picking which events to condemn and take action on is typical.
As far as the current situation, It seems Ukraine is going to be more tied to Russia than they would have liked. It is as much a defensive move as it is offensive. I think Ukraine would have eventually leaned more and more west, and at some point, when something else was going on, they would have been one of those nations that was sanctioning this or that. Russia wasn't going to let that happen. We didn't let it happen in Cuba and were close to nuclear war over it. That is the way I see it.
Fathertime!
Cuba/Russia and Ukraine/US is a false analogy. Whitewashing bold-faced military aggression as "a defensive move" is intellectually dishonest. Explaining an unprovoked assault on a neighboring sovereign nation and its citizenry due to some perceived possible future event such as voting on sanctions is ridiculous.
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1. I believe Dan, it is you who sees the global geopolitical landscape in a one dimensional lens.
2. I refuse to look at things in a biased selective lens, is all.
1. Believe what you will. The logical inconsistencies in your argument are clear.
2. And yet, you do.
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Not true. You presented a one-dimensional perspective of past events involving US/West powers that you perceive as evil and present them alongside the current situation in Ukraine. One has nothing to do with the other. Especially when your one-dimensional perspective FAILS to present the CURRENT aggressor and their past events.
Well said.
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Cuba/Russia and Ukraine/US is a false analogy.
We could also add in a dozen other aggressive moves that caused death and destruction, often spearheaded by the US. I think Russia will see their move as similar. If they do see it that way, I'll have to agree with them. That is not sanction it, but I do see how they will be able to justify it.
Fathertime! Explaining an unprovoked assault on a neighboring sovereign nation and its citizenry due to some perceived possible future event such as voting on sanctions is ridiculous.
We (The US) sometimes preemptively strike sovereign nations due to a perceived threat. Russia perceives a threat at some point down the road. Sanctions can be a form of financial war and that type of war can also cause suffering and or death. Russia is at a severe disadvantage, so they are going to use what they do have which is seemingly a strong military.
Fathertime!
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1. Believe what you will. The logical inconsistencies in your argument are clear.
2. And yet, you do.
You're entitled to an opinion as well as I do. Touche. I stand behind mine, the fallacy is yours.
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FT.
Pray tell explain the future where a nuclear super power that is globally positioned economically and with tons of natural resources, had its citizens in ant eal.threat of change to.thier lives or livelihoods in the foreseeable future from a west leaning Ukraine?
Invading over a possibility and directly effecting Ukrainian citizens loves and livelihoods is justifiable or not?
Despite all the *noise* this is the crux.
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FT.
Pray tell explain the future where a nuclear super power that is globally positioned economically and with tons of natural resources, had its citizens in ant eal.threat of change to.thier lives or livelihoods in the foreseeable future from a west leaning Ukraine?
I have to agree that Russia WAS positioned and about to score big on their resources, and the pipeline was going to help. I suspect in addition to the issues we do know, there is probably more that we don't know. Russia was willing to lay it all on the line. They probably expected a lot of these sanctions. Even shipping carriers won't deliver or pick up their goods, airspace restricted, assets confiscated abroad. Another country potentially aligning against them must have been unpalatable. From what I perceive as their view, I can see why they are taking steps. US also accomplished one of it's goals to prevent the pipeline from being completed.
Fathertime!
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1. We could also add in a dozen other aggressive moves that caused death and destruction, often spearheaded by the US. I think Russia will see their move as similar. If they do see it that way, I'll have to agree with them. That is not sanction it, but I do see how they will be able to justify it.
Fathertime!
2. We (The US) sometimes preemptively strike sovereign nations due to a perceived threat. Russia perceives a threat at some point down the road. Sanctions can be a form of financial war and that type of war can also cause suffering and or death. Russia is at a severe disadvantage, so they are going to use what they do have which is seemingly a strong military.
Fathertime!
1. Another appeal to hypocrisy. Logical fallacies abound. None of that tripe is relevant. Putting aside the language of political justification, none of those past events figured into Putin's current aggression - EXCEPT - that he did not suffer a price previously.
2. Hard to believe you would claim Russia as the victim to justify their actions.
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I have to agree that Russia WAS positioned and about to score big on their resources, and the pipeline was going to help. I suspect in addition to the issues we do know, there is probably more that we don't know. Russia was willing to lay it all on the line. They probably expected a lot of these sanctions. Even shipping carriers won't deliver or pick up their goods, airspace restricted, assets confiscated abroad. Another country potentially aligning against them must have been unpalatable. From what I perceive as their view, I can see why they are taking steps. US also accomplished one of it's goals to prevent the pipeline from being completed.
Fathertime!
I disagree with you. I think Putin and his inner circle, all products of the USSR KGB, believed the West (in particular, Germany) is weak, and that their (the West's) economic interests prevailed over everything. I don't believe for a minute that they entertained the thought Nord Stream would be cancelled. I doubt they even considered BP and Shell writing off Russian gas interests and exiting Russia. I doubt they considered Russian artists, who are not part of the government, being banned from cultural events in Western countires. I really doubt they thought they would be viewed as a pariah state. Whether that holds up is to be seen.
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I disagree with you. I think Putin and his inner circle, all products of the USSR KGB, believed the West (in particular, Germany) is weak, and that their (the West's) economic interests prevailed over everything. I don't believe for a minute that they entertained the thought Nord Stream would be cancelled. I doubt they even considered BP and Shell writing off Russian gas interests and exiting Russia. I doubt they considered Russian artists, who are not part of the government, being banned from cultural events in Western countires. I really doubt they thought they would be viewed as a pariah state. Whether that holds up is to be seen.
Lavrov even said that to Al Jazeera today, they where counting on economical sanktions but never considered athletes and the whole sporting world would be this affected for example, they seemed to have had a long intervju with him, I only saw some headlines go by.
Besides Paralympics I think they have been banned in almost all other branches of sports, individual and team.
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$1 million bounty on Putin offered by Russian businessman
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/1-million-bounty-on-putin-offered-by-russian-businessman/ar-AAUvfnL?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W069
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I disagree with you. I think Putin and his inner circle, all products of the USSR KGB, believed the West (in particular, Germany) is weak, and that their (the West's) economic interests prevailed over everything. I don't believe for a minute that they entertained the thought Nord Stream would be cancelled. I doubt they even considered BP and Shell writing off Russian gas interests and exiting Russia. I doubt they considered Russian artists, who are not part of the government, being banned from cultural events in Western countires. I really doubt they thought they would be viewed as a pariah state. Whether that holds up is to be seen.
Correct, they have contempt for Germany and France.
These last two countries needed a lot of time to realize it, but now it's done.
And things are unlikely to be fully restored.
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Lavrov even said that to Al Jazeera today, they where counting on economical sanktions but never considered athletes and the whole sporting world would be this affected for example, they seemed to have had a long intervju with him, I only saw some headlines go by.
Besides Paralympics I think they have been banned in almost all other branches of sports, individual and team.
I think it has to be made a true pariah state, akin to Iran or North Korea. Visas for travel (and travel should be difficult for ordinary citizens), no Western clothing stores, or skincare products, make up, etc. It's only when ordinary Russians feel the effects of being a pariah state that the situation will improve. This has to be done until Russia no longer occupies Ukraine in any way, shape or form.
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1. Another appeal to hypocrisy. Logical fallacies abound. None of that tripe is relevant. Putting aside the language of political justification, none of those past events figured into Putin's current aggression - EXCEPT - that he did not suffer a price previously.
I'm going to have disagree to the relevance issue. I can't speak for Russia, but from their view they may well think what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
2. Hard to believe you would claim Russia as the victim to justify their actions.
I'm attempting to put myself in their shoes. From their viewpoint they probably think they need to limit how far the West can start to have influence and right up on their doorstep is too far. YOU used the word victim; I don't recall using that word. If they are victims, they are going to be aggressive victims.
Fathertime!
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I disagree with you. I think Putin and his inner circle, all products of the USSR KGB, believed the West (in particular, Germany) is weak, and that their (the West's) economic interests prevailed over everything. I don't believe for a minute that they entertained the thought Nord Stream would be cancelled. I doubt they even considered BP and Shell writing off Russian gas interests and exiting Russia. I doubt they considered Russian artists, who are not part of the government, being banned from cultural events in Western countires. I really doubt they thought they would be viewed as a pariah state. Whether that holds up is to be seen.
I suspect the sanctions are more severe than they expected. I think Russia thought they would be sanctioned, and they would lose the pipeline, but other sanctions and talk of even more are more than they expected.
All that said, many of the larger nations such as China, India, and Pakistan seem to be more in Russia's corner than one might suspect. They all abstained from the big UN vote today. I take that to mean they are turning a blind eye to what is going on. Keeping the door open to Russia.
Fathertime!
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All will need to turn, if they want to continue to trade with the West, and, in the case of India and Pakistan, continue to receive Western aid.
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All will need to turn, if they want to continue to trade with the West, and, in the case of India and Pakistan, continue to receive Western aid.
I think that may be correct. The west has historically been much better at twisting arms than the rest of the world. I would suspect a lot of votes were cast out of financial interests.
Fathertime!
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1. I'm going to have disagree to the relevance issue. I can't speak for Russia, but from their view they may well think what is good for the goose is good for the gander.[/b] I'm attempting to put myself in their shoes. From their viewpoint they probably think they need to limit how far the West can start to have influence and right up on their doorstep is too far[/b].
2. YOU used the word victim; I don't recall using that word. If they are victims, they are going to be aggressive victims.
Fathertime!
1. You are correct, you cannot speak for Russia. Your SPECULATION as to Russia's thought process is a ridiculous line of argument.
2. The statement that "Russia is at a severe disadvantage" is a naked attempt to cast them as the victim and use that as justification for their actions. Another ridiculous line of argument.
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1. You are correct, you cannot speak for Russia. Your SPECULATION as to Russia's thought process is a ridiculous line of argument.
2. The statement that "Russia is at a severe disadvantage" is a naked attempt to cast them as the victim and use that as justification for their actions. Another ridiculous line of argument.
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You may think it is ridiculous, but I think what I've written would probably be close to what their concerns are. It seems pretty clear they don't concern themselves too much with western opinion. In most of the media I've seen here in the USA, the Russians are 100% the problem. Despite this, I'm seeing they have a side to the story too. I'm not big on categorizing them as 'victims', that has been your characterization of what I'm stating.
They have concerns and which obviously haven't been addressed. You may characterize them as ridiculous and as long as the West does the same, I guess there will be more shooting, death, and destruction.
Fathertime!
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You may think it is ridiculous, but I think what I've written would probably be close to what their concerns are. It seems pretty clear they don't concern themselves too much with western opinion. In most of the media I've seen here in the USA, the Russians are 100% the problem. Despite this, I'm seeing they have a side to the story too. I'm not big on categorizing them as 'victims', that has been your characterization of what I'm stating.
They have concerns and which obviously haven't been addressed. You may characterize them as ridiculous and as long as the West does the same, I guess there will be more shooting, death, and destruction.
Fathertime!
It was YOUR post which made the attempt to cast them as victims by claiming that "Russia is at a severe disadvantage." There is no other interpretation of your words FT. And you then go on to use that fallacious and absurd claim as some sort of justification for their actions. Yes, I most certainly assert this argument you've posed is "ridiculous." And that's the kindest thing to be said about it.
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$1 million bounty on Putin offered by Russian businessman
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/1-million-bounty-on-putin-offered-by-russian-businessman/ar-AAUvfnL?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W069 (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/1-million-bounty-on-putin-offered-by-russian-businessman/ar-AAUvfnL?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W069)
Whether that report about Alex Konanykhin is true or not...A $10 million bounty may in turn be put on him.Putin puts nuclear forces on high alert, escalating tensions
http://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-business-europe-moscow-2e4e1cf784f22b6afbe5a2f936725550
Dubious... as any nuclear command is always on 'high alert'.
Anxiety Grows in Odessa as Russians Advance in Southern Ukraine
http://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/02/world/europe/odessa-black-sea-ukraine-russia.html
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It was YOUR post which made the attempt to cast them as victims by claiming that "Russia is at a severe disadvantage." There is no other interpretation of your words FT. most certainly assert this argument you've posed is "ridiculous." And that's the kindest thing to be said about it.
I had to review the posts to see the context from which you pulled 'severe disadvantage' from. It was stated in the context of finances and the ability to inflict harm through sanctions. I stand by that statement, if you want to add it makes them 'victims' that is your choice. Russia doesn't have the ability or allies to create the type of hardship through sanctions that the West does. They are at a severe disadvantage in that respect. Because of this, when they want to get their way, it will be use of brute force. The West will often use other levers that aren't available to Russia at this time. Often when those levers fail to produce the result they want, brute force is also used.
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Whether that report about Alex Konanykhin is true or not...A $10 million bounty may in turn be put on him.
If Putin REALLY thinks he may be in jeopardy, he probably will act even more aggressive. That puts everybody in even greater jeopardy on a faster timeline.
Fathertime!
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I had to review the posts to see the context from which you pulled 'severe disadvantage' from. It was stated in the context of finances and the ability to inflict harm through sanctions. I stand by that statement, if you want to add it makes them 'victims' that is your choice. Russia doesn't have the ability or allies to create the type of hardship through sanctions that the West does. They are at a severe disadvantage in that respect. Because of this, when they want to get their way, it will be use of brute force. The West will often use other levers that aren't available to Russia at this time. Often when those levers fail to produce the result they want, brute force is also used.
Fathertime!
I agree completely. Doesn't excuse Russia's current adventure, nor should it excuse all others in theirs.
As for sanctions, it’s a joke. The US imports oil from Russia to the tune of 600,000 barrels/day. At $100.00 per barrel, we are giving Russia $60 million/day, everyday. The White House excluded crude oil from the sanctioned lot because it fears it’ll make the inflation worse. Go figure.
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She has every right to be disappointed. Especially if we (The US) led her people to believe that we were going to jeopardize the planet with WWIII. Her request of a no-fly zone isn't realistic at all. I'm now convinced Putin is willing to do everything up to nukes to get what he wants out of Ukraine. Before this all started, he probably would have settled for less, now given what the global consequences are going to be, he probably wants it all, unequivocally. If that means squashing all resistance and taking millions of lives, he will probably do it. People seem to be evacuating and I hope they continue to do so. I don't see why Russia wouldn't let women, children, old men, flee out of the country.
Ukrainian parliament member says Biden’s SOTU was ‘a total disappointment’ for Ukraine
....And today when I see President Biden saying that we’re going to protect every inch of the NATO territory, excuse me, we’ve been promised the same thing when we gave up our nuclear weapons," Ustinova said. "The Russians have totally destroyed all of the airports in Ukraine, the majority of the roads. We are grateful for help, but we need protection in our sky."
The Biden administration has said it will not send military aircraft to enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine because that would amount to a direct confrontation with Russian forces.
"We have been protecting ourselves on the ground, but if we do not protect our sky, if there is (not) a no-fly zone or if there is no dome to protect it with the air defense, we will all go down," Ustinova said. "People will literally die."....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-parliament-member-says-biden-144019213.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-parliament-member-says-biden-144019213.html)
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If Putin REALLY thinks he may be in jeopardy, he probably will act even more aggressive. That puts everybody in even greater jeopardy on a faster timeline.
Fathertime!
I doubt that. He could face a Mussolini type fate if he goes too far.
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If Putin REALLY thinks he may be in jeopardy, he probably will act even more aggressive. That puts everybody in even greater jeopardy on a faster timeline.
Fathertime!
I doubt that. He could face a Mussolini type fate if he goes too far.
Fathertime is likely correct.
Here's an informative YouTube where we learn to never trap a rat:
Former MI6 Chief On the Ukraine & Russia Conflict | Oxford Union
http://youtu.be/Yw5lzKVn3sc
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This will be a grim post.
NY Times Report seems pretty spot on. Many NATO nations are going to be trying to transport weaponry into Ukraine. This raises the question of 'unofficial' NATO involvement.
Several points regarding this.
1. Russia Will feel they have every right to preemptively attack, *As the US has done* even if it is within a NATO country border.
2. If Russia feels the weaponry is going to make it to Ukraine, they may feel the urgent need to exterminate Ukraine's military on an accelerated timeline, with less and less regard for 'collateral damage. If they don't Ukraine will have enough weapons to inflict more casualties on Russia.
3. If Russia does decide to attack within a NATO nation, NATO will likely respond with overwhelming force, and Russia could easily go tactically Nuclear.
4. I don't think NATO would respond right away with nuclear weapons because it would escalate Russia even more. At that point it is clearly the planet at risk.
The longer this goes on the harder it becomes to find a solution. Ukrainians civilians should be running for the exits faster than ever.
NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia
.....In fact, even if no NATO soldier ever crosses into Ukraine, and even if convoys of materiel are driven to the border by nonuniformed personnel or contractors in plain trucks, the European arms supplies are likely to be seen in Moscow as a not-so-disguised intervention by NATO.
Supplying Ukraine to allow the resistance to bloody Russia’s nose is a good idea, “but the more it ramps up you wonder how Putin will respond,” said Malcolm Chalmers, deputy director of the Royal United Services Institute, a defense research institute. “What happens if he attacks on the other side of the border? We pursue terrorists across borders, why not him?”.....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/nato-countries-pour-weapons-ukraine-195214505.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/nato-countries-pour-weapons-ukraine-195214505.html)
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FT,
All weapons being provided by western nations, to date, are defensive weapons. Anti-tank, anti-aircraft, etc
This is likely why the idea of providing them with fighter jets was dropped. A fighter is not a defensive weapon.
If UA armed forces fall, it may become more of an issue since we would then be providing arms to what might be deemed by RU as an insurgence or terrorists. Even so, that is exactly what RU has been doing with the rebels in the eastern part of UA since 2014.
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1. I had to review the posts to see the context from which you pulled 'severe disadvantage' from. It was stated in the context of finances and the ability to inflict harm through sanctions. I stand by that statement,
2. if you want to add it makes them 'victims' that is your choice. Russia doesn't have the ability or allies to create the type of hardship through sanctions that the West does. They are at a severe disadvantage in that respect. Because of this, when they want to get their way, it will be use of brute force.
3. The West will often use other levers that aren't available to Russia at this time. Often when those levers fail to produce the result they want, brute force is also used.
Fathertime!
1. You don't remember your claim in your own post?!? Do you just write stuff without thinking?? Those are YOUR words I cited on multiple occasions. "Russia is at a severe disadvantage." In the context YOU presented, you seek to establish Russia as the victim (the one disadvantaged) and then spin that as justification for their aggression. Ludicrous.
2. Russia has just as much influence over the UN as does China or the US or any other permanent member, and far more than any regular UN member nation.
3. And you return to a fallacious appeal to hypocrisy. None of that is relevant to the central issue of unprovoked Russian aggression against a neighboring sovereign nation.
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She has every right to be disappointed. 1. Especially if we (The US) led her people to believe that we were going to jeopardize the planet with WWIII. Her request of a no-fly zone isn't realistic at all. I'm now convinced Putin is willing to do everything up to nukes to get what he wants out of Ukraine. 2. Before this all started, he probably would have settled for less, now given what the global consequences are going to be, he probably wants it all, unequivocally. If that means squashing all resistance and taking millions of lives, he will probably do it. People seem to be evacuating and I hope they continue to do so. I don't see why Russia wouldn't let women, children, old men, flee out of the country.
Ukrainian parliament member says Biden’s SOTU was ‘a total disappointment’ for Ukraine
3. ....And today when I see President Biden saying that we’re going to protect every inch of the NATO territory, excuse me, we’ve been promised the same thing when we gave up our nuclear weapons," Ustinova said. "The Russians have totally destroyed all of the airports in Ukraine, the majority of the roads. We are grateful for help, but we need protection in our sky."
The Biden administration has said it will not send military aircraft to enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine because that would amount to a direct confrontation with Russian forces.
"We have been protecting ourselves on the ground, but if we do not protect our sky, if there is (not) a no-fly zone or if there is no dome to protect it with the air defense, we will all go down," Ustinova said. "People will literally die."....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-parliament-member-says-biden-144019213.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-parliament-member-says-biden-144019213.html)
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1. Appeal to exaggeration. At the time Ukraine held a large number of Soviet-era nuclear weapons. In an effort to reduce the number of countries holding nuclear arsenals, guarantees were offered by the West AND BY RUSSIA for Ukrainian sovereignty and security. Your "jeopardize the planet with WWIII" bullshit is pure hyperbole.
2. Probably this. Probably that. More speculative nonsense.
3. You failed to include the most profound part of the interview when she asked the question of what red line is it that Putin must cross before the West intervenes. Of course, that question presupposes one starts from the position that Putin's aggressions are unwarranted - a step too far for you it seems.
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1. You don't remember your claim in your own post?!? Do you just write stuff without thinking?? Those are YOUR words I cited on multiple occasions. "Russia is at a severe disadvantage." In the context YOU presented, you seek to establish Russia as the victim (the one disadvantaged) and then spin that as justification for their aggression. Ludicrous.
Since you quoted my words, I went back and reviewed the context it was stated in to see if I was incorrect. Turns out it was stated in a context I can stand behind. You can label as "Victim" or appeal to hypocrisy, but that doesn't mean it isn't accurate. Russia is indeed at a SEVERE DISADVANTAGE as it pertains to being able to inflict harm through sanctions. That isn't a route they can take (At this time). In this particular case they tried intimidation before massive attacks, but that didn't work, in part because the West had been pumping up Ukraine.
If Russia is going to get their way, they have military strength (It seems), that is method they are can and are willing to use.
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1. Appeal to exaggeration. At the time Ukraine held a large number of Soviet-era nuclear weapons. In an effort to reduce the number of countries holding nuclear arsenals, guarantees were offered by the West AND BY RUSSIA for Ukrainian sovereignty and security. Your "jeopardize the planet with WWIII" bullshit is pure hyperbole.
No. It isn't 'my' WWIII horseshit, although I do believe it is on the table. There are a lot of people Lavrov himself has brought it up and many analysts are making the rounds in belief it is quite possible IF NATO takes a larger role. It is already becoming a blurred line.
2. Probably this. Probably that. More speculative nonsense.
You may think everything is a sure thing. For now, it is a maybe or probably.
3. You failed to include the most profound part of the interview when she asked the question of what red line is it that Putin must cross before the West intervenes. Of course, that question presupposes one starts from the position that Putin's aggressions are unwarranted - a step too far for you it seems.
Actually, it is you that failed to discuss that aspect of the interview in context. I've discussed the points that I was ready to discuss. If there are points that you feel are necessary to bring up, obviously you should do it.
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Former MI6 Chief On the Ukraine & Russia Conflict | Oxford Union
http://youtu.be/Yw5lzKVn3sc
Thanks for sharing the video. Actually watched the whole thing, but man that was painful. I thought Gavin Newsom was bad, but he takes the cake.
One can only hope the suffering stops sooner than later.
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Correct, they have contempt for Germany and France.
These last two countries needed a lot of time to realize it, but now it's done.
And things are unlikely to be fully restored.
Patagonie-
I understand how Germany can be looked at by Moscow as being submissive, or even passive, as to me it has a very deep reliance on Russia's energy provision. But as a Frenchman, why do you think France is looked at by Russia as such (weak)? Hell, Macron have the only open communication with Russia at this time.
Could it be that France had always been apprehensive in its NATO membership? It first withdrew from the alliance, IINM, back in the late 60s and took what I think 40+ years before rejoining for a heavily conditioned membership (absent doctrine for mutual assured destruction). Which explains its non-military contribution to this obsolete organization when required. So maybe Russia sees that as being 'weak'?
What do you think?
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Patagonie-
I understand how Germany can be looked at by Moscow as being submissive, or even passive, as to me it has a very deep reliance on Russia's energy provision. But as a Frenchman, why do you think France is looked at by Russia as such (weak)? Hell, Macron have the only open communication with Russia at this time.
Could it be that France had always been apprehensive in its NATO membership? It first withdrew from the alliance, IINM, back in the late 60s and took what I think 40+ years before rejoining for a heavily conditioned membership (absent doctrine for mutual assured destruction). Which explains its non-military contribution to this obsolete organization when required. So maybe Russia sees that as being 'weak'?
What do you think?
GQ
I think it's more about how France has managed the crisis of the Yellow Jackets and the fact that it doesn't control his immigration. Marriage between homosexuals, couple of men or couple of men adopting babies and so on.
It's more about moral values IMHO.
Additionally Macron is the exact type of young French blue-collar that is having no clue about the Slavic soul. I suppose that the previous Presidents were better in this exercise.
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GQ
I think it's more about how France has managed the crisis of the Yellow Jackets and the fact that it doesn't control his immigration. Marriage between homosexuals, couple of men or couple of men adopting babies and so on.
It's more about moral values IMHO.
Additionally Macron is the exact type of young French blue-collar that is having no clue about the Slavic soul. I suppose that the previous Presidents were better in this exercise.
So what you're saying is, it's more in line 'culturally' than any. Macron, at least from my distant perspective, does seem to be disfavored by its citizens.
Just read an article today about how he perceived the result of his recently concluded communication with Putin. Very bleak for Ukraine.
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Belarusian soldiers refuse to invade Ukraine
http://www.unian.ua/world/biloruski-soldati-vidmovlyayutsya-vid-vtorgnennya-v-ukrajinu-jim-pogrozhuyut-zmi-novini-svitu-11727526.html?utm_source=unian&utm_medium=read_more_news&utm_campaign=read_more_news_in_post (http://www.unian.ua/world/biloruski-soldati-vidmovlyayutsya-vid-vtorgnennya-v-ukrajinu-jim-pogrozhuyut-zmi-novini-svitu-11727526.html?utm_source=unian&utm_medium=read_more_news&utm_campaign=read_more_news_in_post)
http://world.segodnya.ua/world/wnews/belarus-ne-budet-voevat-v-ukraine-zayavlenie-lukashenko-1606575.html
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Thanks for sharing the video. Actually watched the whole thing...
Yeah? I am limited on time__ What did he say?
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If Russia feels the weaponry is going to make it to Ukraine, they may feel the urgent need to exterminate Ukraine's military on an accelerated timeline, with less and less regard for 'collateral damage.
It has been demonstrated that they have no regard for this at all.
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It has been demonstrated that they have no regard for this at all.
I'm hearing mixed reports. Some are practically saying they are lining up women and children and shooting them. I'd need to see videos of this to believe it. Others are saying they are permitting civilians to leave in predetermined routes. This seems plausible.
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I'm hearing mixed reports. Some are practically saying they are lining up women and children and shooting them. I'd need to see videos of this to believe it. Others are saying they are permitting civilians to leave in predetermined routes. This seems plausible.
Fathertime!
There are not mutually exclusive situations here.
It is true that many people are leaving Ukraine mostly unhindered by Russian terrorists.
However, it is also true that Russian terrorists are shooting into houses along the streets as they move through.
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There are not mutually exclusive situations here.
It is true that many people are leaving Ukraine mostly unhindered by Russian terrorists.
Yeah, not the Russian terrorists but what about the Ukrainian guards....
This will not be looked at favorably in African nations, or by most anyone else. Quite a few accountings (And accompanying video) so it is probably true.
African students fleeing Ukraine report racial discrimination at borders
The last 24 hours of her journey in the queue, Sky said, were the worst because that’s when she started facing “racism and segregation.” She said that while she and her husband were making their way to the front of the line, Ukrainian civilians began aggressively circling their car, with one man allegedly lunging at her....
.....“The Ukrainian border guards were not letting us through. They were beating people up with sticks” and tearing off their jackets, she added. “They would slap them, beat them and push them to the end of the queue. It was awful.”
....Other accounts using the #africansinukraine hashtag (but unverified by Yahoo News) involve African men, women and children being shoved off trains and buses by Ukrainian troops....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/african-students-fleeing-ukraine-report-racial-discrimination-at-borders-234429880.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/african-students-fleeing-ukraine-report-racial-discrimination-at-borders-234429880.html)
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It's not a racial thing, though, FT.
Ukrainian men have very different attitudes toward women (and children) than do WM. So they would hold back foreigners who are 99% men in favour of letting women proceed to cross the border.
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Yeah, not the Russian terrorists but what about the Ukrainian guards....
This will not be looked at favorably in African nations, or by most anyone else. Quite a few accountings (And accompanying video) so it is probably true.
African students fleeing Ukraine report racial discrimination at borders
The last 24 hours of her journey in the queue, Sky said, were the worst because that’s when she started facing “racism and segregation.” She said that while she and her husband were making their way to the front of the line, Ukrainian civilians began aggressively circling their car, with one man allegedly lunging at her....
.....“The Ukrainian border guards were not letting us through. They were beating people up with sticks” and tearing off their jackets, she added. “They would slap them, beat them and push them to the end of the queue. It was awful.”
....Other accounts using the #africansinukraine hashtag (but unverified by Yahoo News) involve African men, women and children being shoved off trains and buses by Ukrainian troops....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/african-students-fleeing-ukraine-report-racial-discrimination-at-borders-234429880.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/african-students-fleeing-ukraine-report-racial-discrimination-at-borders-234429880.html)
Fathertime!
That’s terrible. But that’s true most everywhere.
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Yeah? I am limited on time__ What did he say?
Mostly various angles where this conflict could potentially end. As a career intelligence personnel he just shared insights to the wacky mind of Putin that most are aware of to begin with.
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A lot of those ethnic groups have a very self important outlook. They don't think they think they should be allowed in with the women/anyone else but I'm front of them. They think they are entitled to push themselves to the front of the queue as soon as matters change in their interest to do so. Unfortunately for them they were born with penis's and in such a time in a country like Ukraine in such a circumstance they have least value. They would be better making their way on foot than waiting there forever more while women are constantly pushed in front of them.
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Yeah, not the Russian terrorists but what about the Ukrainian guards....
This will not be looked at favorably in African nations, or by most anyone else. Quite a few accountings (And accompanying video) so it is probably true.
African students fleeing Ukraine report racial discrimination at borders
The last 24 hours of her journey in the queue, Sky said, were the worst because that’s when she started facing “racism and segregation.” She said that while she and her husband were making their way to the front of the line, Ukrainian civilians began aggressively circling their car, with one man allegedly lunging at her....
.....“The Ukrainian border guards were not letting us through. They were beating people up with sticks” and tearing off their jackets, she added. “They would slap them, beat them and push them to the end of the queue. It was awful.”
....Other accounts using the #africansinukraine hashtag (but unverified by Yahoo News) involve African men, women and children being shoved off trains and buses by Ukrainian troops....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/african-students-fleeing-ukraine-report-racial-discrimination-at-borders-234429880.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/african-students-fleeing-ukraine-report-racial-discrimination-at-borders-234429880.html)
Fathertime!
The BBC tried to put a racial spin on this..being a lefty outfit....and failed.
They have reporters at the Polish border with Lviv,and they were thrusting microphones under black refugees arriving from Ukraine.
"Were you put to the back of the queue for getting out of Ukraine " ? They asked.
"Yes we were "was the reply.
"So this was racial discrimination then " ? the reporter eagerly asked of a black woman.
"No..the Ukrainians were putting Ukrainian people before foreigners ".
"Oh " replied the thwarted reporter.
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It seems the west's biggest weapon thus far has been finances. Years or decades ago this weapon would have been more effective but may be a little watered down in 2022.
The Ruble has gone down in value a lot since the war started from 80 to 112 (Estimate)
At the same time Oil has gone up in value from $75 a barrel to $110 (Estimate)
It seems that this will nullify the effect of sanctions. The US continues to buy 600,000 barrels of oil from Russia DAILY. I would assume (Especially now) that Russia is getting paid immediately and in dollars.
It wouldn't benefit us much if we tried to stop buying the oil. China or India would probably buy the oil anyway. I think other nations are leery of the US trying to freeze countries out, because they realize at some point down the road, they will either be frozen out, or the looming threat would exist and occasionally be used as a lever to apply pressure.
Fathertime!
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The BBC tried to put a racial spin on this..being a lefty outfit....and failed.
They have reporters at the Polish border with Lviv,and they were thrusting microphones under black refugees arriving from Ukraine.
"Were you put to the back of the queue for getting out of Ukraine " ? They asked.
"Yes we were "was the reply.
"So this was racial discrimination then " ? the reporter eagerly asked of a black woman.
"No..the Ukrainians were putting Ukrainian people before foreigners ".
"Oh " replied the thwarted reporter.
I don't think all the accounts can be dismissed by one interaction you are quoting. That said, I know the media likes to headline racial issues such as these. Still the accounts are some people are actually being beaten, so there is probably some truth to it.
Years ago when it was Syrian's trying to escape, they were called dregs of society, and terrorists among chants of send them back! ....now that it is Ukrainians, they are civilians. In both cases they are civilians.
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African students....
The Polish are vetting people based on appearance. So what?
Who is to know who is entering? Unlike the US border which should be very important...any Tom, Dick, & Harry, or Abdul the Islamic terrorist is wandering on in.
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The Polish are vetting people based on appearance. So what?
Who is to know who is entering? Unlike the US border which should be very important...any Tom, Dick, & Harry, or Abdul the Islamic terrorist is wandering on in.
I don't think the focus was Polish guards vetting people. That is totally ok to do obviously. Poor treatment by Ukrainians is the aspect of the article I was referring to. Beatings...being pushed off a train...accountings like this.
The US border has become lax. Dominican Lady came into my shop recently and said she had never seen it so easy to come through the checkpoints. The border people were practically sleeping and waving everybody through at Tijuana border crossing.
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If I were a foreign investor, I'd be uninterested in investing in the US or Europe going forward. Foreign investment is one of the keys to the US economy. A lot of our taxes are paid by foreigners who invest in our real estate, stocks, and projects. We don't make very much stuff here in the states to export, so this was one of the ways to recapture some of the money we hemorrhage on imports.
Chinese, Russian, Indian among others may reconsider investing here and stick to investing in their home countries. I think the idea WAS to invest some of their assets here in the states to diversify their portfolios. The US is proving to be an unsafe place to invest, as assets can be seized suddenly. This is a complaint I often hear about investing in the 3rd world, that laws can change overnight, and you suddenly lose everything.
I will be curious to see if there is a long-term effect from US and EU policy.
Sanctioned Russian billionaire banker Mikhail Fridman was locked out of the private-equity firm he cofounded and staff were told to ignore him, report says
.....Russian billionaire and banker, Mikhail Fridman, was locked out of the investment firm he cofounded after he was hit by European Union sanctions, the company announced on Wednesday.....
....Fridman's assets in the company were "effectively frozen" and his rights as a shareholder were taken away, LetterOne's press release said. He won't receive dividends, funds, or communications in any way, said LetterOne.....
http://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/sanctioned-billionaire-russian-banker-mikhail-105222192.html (http://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/sanctioned-billionaire-russian-banker-mikhail-105222192.html)
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I don't think all the accounts can be dismissed by one interaction you are quoting. That said, I know the media likes to headline racial issues such as these. Still the accounts are some people are actually being beaten, so there is probably some truth to it.
Years ago when it was Syrian's trying to escape, they were called dregs of society, and terrorists among chants of send them back! ....now that it is Ukrainians, they are civilians. In both cases they are civilians.
Fathertime!
If there was racism going on concerning the evacuation of people from Ukraine the BBC would have found it..it's their go to.
An Indian guy was complaining at Kiev train station that he'd been pushed back with a rifle butt in his back,but he'd been trying to force his way past a Ukrainian woman and her child onto a train.
Black men on the steps leading up to the platform were being VERY aggressive toward Ukrainian women and their children in their way,until Ukrainian troops yelled at them to get back,and then lifted the women and children up out of the crush and onto the platform..this was all filmed by Sky News.
No signs of any beatings though. :rolleyes:
Two sides to every story eh ?
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Bad news for Trench.
625,000 refugees have fled to Poland from Ukraine so far and i found out today there's already a large Ukrainian population in Poland.
All those Ukrainian guys waiting to comfort those single hotties ..and those girls will now get to stay in the EU with their new partners.
It couldn't have worked out any worse for Trenchie.
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Bad news for Trench.
625,000 refugees have fled to Poland from Ukraine so far and i found out today there's already a large Ukrainian population in Poland.
All those Ukrainian guys waiting to comfort those single hotties ..and those girls will now get to stay in the EU with their new partners.
It couldn't have worked out any worse for Trenchie.
:ROFL:
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It seems the west's biggest weapon thus far has been finances. Years or decades ago this weapon would have been more effective but may be a little watered down in 2022.
The Ruble has gone down in value a lot since the war started from 80 to 112 (Estimate)
At the same time Oil has gone up in value from $75 a barrel to $110 (Estimate)
It seems that this will nullify the effect of sanctions. The US continues to buy 600,000 barrels of oil from Russia DAILY. I would assume (Especially now) that Russia is getting paid immediately and in dollars.
It wouldn't benefit us much if we tried to stop buying the oil. China or India would probably buy the oil anyway. I think other nations are leery of the US trying to freeze countries out, because they realize at some point down the road, they will either be frozen out, or the looming threat would exist and occasionally be used as a lever to apply pressure.
Fathertime!
Russia is a kleptocracy. So hitting them with really tough sanctions will work, because the elite won't be able to spend their ill gotten gains. There's only so much borscht, blini, and vodka one can consume.
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If I were a foreign investor, I'd be uninterested in investing in the US or Europe going forward. Foreign investment is one of the keys to the US economy. A lot of our taxes are paid by foreigners who invest in our real estate, stocks, and projects. We don't make very much stuff here in the states to export, so this was one of the ways to recapture some of the money we hemorrhage on imports.
Chinese, Russian, Indian among others may reconsider investing here and stick to investing in their home countries. I think the idea WAS to invest some of their assets here in the states to diversify their portfolios. The US is proving to be an unsafe place to invest, as assets can be seized suddenly. This is a complaint I often hear about investing in the 3rd world, that laws can change overnight, and you suddenly lose everything.
I will be curious to see if there is a long-term effect from US and EU policy.
Sanctioned Russian billionaire banker Mikhail Fridman was locked out of the private-equity firm he cofounded and staff were told to ignore him, report says
.....Russian billionaire and banker, Mikhail Fridman, was locked out of the investment firm he cofounded after he was hit by European Union sanctions, the company announced on Wednesday.....
....Fridman's assets in the company were "effectively frozen" and his rights as a shareholder were taken away, LetterOne's press release said. He won't receive dividends, funds, or communications in any way, said LetterOne.....
http://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/sanctioned-billionaire-russian-banker-mikhail-105222192.html (http://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/sanctioned-billionaire-russian-banker-mikhail-105222192.html)
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I guess I would be afraid were I a foreigner who supported a kleptocratic, authoritarian regime. Were I an honest person who didn't support murderous regimes, I suspect I'd have no issues.
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Since you quoted my words, I went back and reviewed the context it was stated in to see if I was incorrect. Turns out it was stated in a context I can stand behind. You can label as "Victim" or appeal to hypocrisy, but that doesn't mean it isn't accurate. Russia is indeed at a SEVERE DISADVANTAGE as it pertains to being able to inflict harm through sanctions. That isn't a route they can take (At this time). In this particular case they tried intimidation before massive attacks, but that didn't work, in part because the West had been pumping up Ukraine.
I can't express how much I disagree with the bolded part above.
Let's go back to Donbas. Why did it explode? Because of a language law. A law the West did not support. The EU, in particular, is very strong on minority language rights.
How has "the West" been pumping up Ukraine? It hasn't. It's true, the West trained Ukrainians in activism and democratic principles, but it also trained them in how to open banks, run hospitals, etc. But the democracy in Ukraine was homegrown. It was never imposed by the West. There are about 10 million people of Ukrainian descent living in Western countries, and many of their parents and grandparents were fighting for Ukrainian independence and democracy when Ukraine was still part of the USSR. So when the Soviet Union collapsed, many of them went to Ukraine, to aid in establishing a working government and civil life. They underestimated the problems, but they did aid, with significant funding from the US government, in creating a stable, democratic state.
Ukraine's democracy is young, and is rife with corruption and inefficiency. But unlike in Russia, people there were not afraid to criticize elected officials. Unlike in Russia, they could demonstrate freely, whenever they wished.
I do not believe for a moment that the invasion of Ukraine is about NATO. It was because Ukraine was at a turning point as a nation. Having a truly democratic nation next door was the threat to Russia. Not NATO.
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I can't express how much I disagree with the bolded part above.
Let's go back to Donbas. Why did it explode? Because of a language law. A law the West did not support. The EU, in particular, is very strong on minority language rights.
How has "the West" been pumping up Ukraine? It hasn't. It's true, the West trained Ukrainians in activism and democratic principles, but it also trained them in how to open banks, run hospitals, etc. But the democracy in Ukraine was homegrown. It was never imposed by the West. There are about 10 million people of Ukrainian descent living in Western countries, and many of their parents and grandparents were fighting for Ukrainian independence and democracy when Ukraine was still part of the USSR. So when the Soviet Union collapsed, many of them went to Ukraine, to aid in establishing a working government and civil life. They underestimated the problems, but they did aid, with significant funding from the US government, in creating a stable, democratic state.
Ukraine's democracy is young, and is rife with corruption and inefficiency. But unlike in Russia, people there were not afraid to criticize elected officials. Unlike in Russia, they could demonstrate freely, whenever they wished.
I do not believe for a moment that the invasion of Ukraine is about NATO. It was because Ukraine was at a turning point as a nation. Having a truly democratic nation next door was the threat to Russia. Not NATO.
While often condemned nowadays as anachronistic or idealized, there remain some fundamental truths. One of which is that Communist ideology conflicts with and is threatened by Democratic ideology.
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If I were a foreign investor, I'd be uninterested in investing in the US or Europe going forward. Foreign investment is one of the keys to the US economy. A lot of our taxes are paid by foreigners who invest in our real estate, stocks, and projects. We don't make very much stuff here in the states to export, so this was one of the ways to recapture some of the money we hemorrhage on imports.
Chinese, Russian, Indian among others may reconsider investing here and stick to investing in their home countries. I think the idea WAS to invest some of their assets here in the states to diversify their portfolios. The US is proving to be an unsafe place to invest, as assets can be seized suddenly. This is a complaint I often hear about investing in the 3rd world, that laws can change overnight, and you suddenly lose everything.
I will be curious to see if there is a long-term effect from US and EU policy.
Ironically enough, this came up as a 'joke' in our meeting this morning. There has been more than a brisk influx of foreign investments to develop studios and soundstages in various SoCal locations. It's taken over residential and solar centers construction. The streaming industry is literally causing investors to trip over themselves to be the first to lure such companies as Netflix, Disney, Paramount, Sony, etc... Someone barked at the meeting, watching the seizure of all Russia-related properties and investment, how absurd this (studio development) will be with (Japan, Qatar, China, et al) would someday soon trip over the proverbial line and pissed the US off and sanction their butts and take these over.
Then someone said, under this scenario how odd will it be had China had sanctioning power and the US pissing them off. Imagine all the investment we have staked in China.
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Ironically enough, this came up as a 'joke' in our meeting this morning. There has been more than a brisk influx of foreign investments to develop studios and soundstages in various SoCal locations. It's taken over residential and solar centers construction. The streaming industry is literally causing investors to trip over themselves to be the first to lure such companies as Netflix, Disney, Paramount, Sony, etc... Someone barked at the meeting, watching the seizure of all Russia-related properties and investment, how absurd this (studio development) will be with (Japan, Qatar, China, et al) would someday soon trip over the proverbial line and pissed the US off and sanction their butts and take these over.
Then someone said, under this scenario how odd will it be had China had sanctioning power and the US pissing them off. Imagine all the investment we have staked in China.
Are you suggesting China does NOT have "sanctioning power"?
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Are you suggesting China does NOT have "sanctioning power"?
The post said: "Then SOMEONE said...
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The post said: "Then SOMEONE said...
OK. I wanted to be sure of your intent because I didn't want readers to be given the mistaken impression that China has no sanctioning power. They have just as much as the US does. And they've used it against US firms and individuals.
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OK. I wanted to be sure of your intent because I didn't want readers to be given the mistaken impression that China has no sanctioning power. They have just as much as the US does. And they've used it against US firms and individuals.
I posted the 'intent'. What else is there to be sure about? Every nation have 'sanctioning power' to serve their interest/s if they so chooses. China had exercise such with CZ, Estonia, EU et al. Not very good at it, but they do.
Anything else you'd like to be sure of?
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While often condemned nowadays as anachronistic or idealized, there remain some fundamental truths. One of which is that Communist ideology conflicts with and is threatened by Democratic ideology.
It doesn't have to be threatened, as in theory (though not in practice), communism has many desirable aspects.
I was reading a piece on Putin's cabinet, and the fact most were in the dark about the invasion. What caught my eye, though, is that I believe but for one, they are all between 65 and 72. So, in the twilight of their lives. Yet these old men and women have zero compunction about sending 19 and 20 year old boys to die, or to kill scores of innocent Ukrainians.
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I can't express how much I disagree with the bolded part above.
How has "the West" been pumping up Ukraine? It hasn't.
I was referring to the pumping up of the Ukraine military, and possibly giving them the idea, they would be fully backed up.
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I was referring to the pumping up of the Ukraine military, and possibly giving them the idea, they would be fully backed up.
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I do not believe for a moment that the invasion of Ukraine is about NATO. It was because Ukraine was at a turning point as a nation. Having a truly democratic nation next door was the threat to Russia. Not NATO.
I think Russia is rightfully concerned they would end up with another fairly unfriendly country nearby. A country that would work against their interests, and side with the collective state of the EU and the USA. I am pretty sure that was going to happen at some point, 10, 20, 30 years away.
I also would say NATO was another reason....but the top reason was the competitive disadvantage they probably thought they would find themselves getting into.
I don't think democracy itself is an important factor.
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It seems that Europeans and Americans think our problem and views should be shared by everybody else on the planet. Oftentimes if they are not shared, a sanctions regiment is threatened or rolled out. The 'appeal to hypocrisy' seems to weigh heavier in many regions than the 'appeals to emotion'.
Shunned by Others, Russia Finds Friends in Africa
....One of Putin’s staunchest defenders in the past week was a powerful figure in Uganda, a major customer for Russian weapons. Lt. Gen. Muhoozi Kainerugaba, son of Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, said in a tweet: “The majority of mankind (that are nonwhite) support Russia’s stand in Ukraine.”......
.....He added, “When the USSR parked nuclear armed missiles in Cuba in 1962, the West was ready to blow up the world over it. Now when NATO does the same, they expect Russia to do differently.”.....
African sympathies for Ukraine were also diluted by reports of Ukrainian border guards forcing African students to the back of lines as they attempted to leave the country, raising a furor over racism and discrimination. President Muhammadu Buhari of Nigeria, which has 4,000 students in Ukraine, decried the reports......
http://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-others-russia-finds-friends-131113054.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-others-russia-finds-friends-131113054.html)
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It seems that Europeans and Americans think our problem and views should be shared by everybody else on the planet. Oftentimes if they are not shared, a sanctions regiment is threatened or rolled out. The 'appeal to hypocrisy' seems to weigh heavier in many regions than the 'appeals to emotion'.
Shunned by Others, Russia Finds Friends in Africa
....One of Putin’s staunchest defenders in the past week was a powerful figure in Uganda, a major customer for Russian weapons. Lt. Gen. Muhoozi Kainerugaba, son of Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, said in a tweet: “The majority of mankind (that are nonwhite) support Russia’s stand in Ukraine.”......
.....He added, “When the USSR parked nuclear armed missiles in Cuba in 1962, the West was ready to blow up the world over it. Now when NATO does the same, they expect Russia to do differently.”.....
African sympathies for Ukraine were also diluted by reports of Ukrainian border guards forcing African students to the back of lines as they attempted to leave the country, raising a furor over racism and discrimination. President Muhammadu Buhari of Nigeria, which has 4,000 students in Ukraine, decried the reports......
http://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-others-russia-finds-friends-131113054.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-others-russia-finds-friends-131113054.html)
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Except the fact that Ukraine wasnt likely be accepted into NATO, and if so not a nuckear nation anymore and unlikely to have nuclear missles there.
Why do these pieces continually exclude Estonia and Latvia, nato nations on russias border and not a perp about that, no nukes there either and how long have they been in NATO.
Cuba was a different time,missles were at a much greater advantage if based closer.
Is that really a talking point in 2022,when if* Russia or anyone was to be attacked in this fashion,or leveraged by threat if it, the distance the missles traveled was technically over come many years ago and is not relevant to the degree of threat.
We are being fed a line of bullshit.
They had back.pack nukes in 1980,im.quite sure this advanced significantly.
The amount of naval nuckear power both countries have in a single sub today , is far greater than anything discussed being put in Cuba in the 60s.
In the end you can only kill someone once, one sub would do it
All.parties involved know this well,
So again the bullshit of worrying if an nuclear missle is located 200 km away or 1000km is ridiculous at a level I cant believe the public stomachs.
Yes the defense suchcan be marginally more effective if there is slightly more.time,but that's an insane premosevto build a war off of.
I don't have the answers ,but I do know the ones we are fed are bullshit
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Cuba was a different time,missles were at a much greater advantage if based closer.
Is that really a talking point in 2022,when if* Russia or anyone was to be attacked in this fashion,or leveraged by threat if it, the distance the missles traveled was technically over come many years ago and is not relevant to the degree of threat.
We are being fed a line of bullshit.
They had back.pack nukes in 1980,im.quite sure this advanced significantly.
The amount of naval nuckear power both countries have in a single sub today , is far greater than anything discussed being put in Cuba in the 60s.
In the end you can only kill someone once, one sub would do it
All.parties involved know this well,
So again the bullshit of worrying if an nuclear missle is located 200 km away or 1000km is ridiculous at a level I cant believe the public stomachs.
I don't have the answers ,but I do know the ones we are fed are bullshit
These are some good points regarding NATO.
It stills seems Russia didn't want another somewhat hostile NATO nation right there on their border. Another nation chipping in against their interests.
I think the more important factors are finances, and long-term resources.
Russia sees the US with it's (Self Interested) global adventurism and wars and decides to keep up they have to do it themselves.
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African sympathies for Ukraine were also diluted by reports of Ukrainian border guards forcing African students to the back of lines as they attempted to leave the country, raising a furor over racism and discrimination. President Muhammadu Buhari of Nigeria, which has 4,000 students in Ukraine, decried the reports......
This info is totally false.
What was happening was that Africans (also Indians) were pushing ahead of Ukrainian women and children.
Only then were they sent to the back.
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It stills seems Russia didn't want another somewhat hostile NATO nation right there on their border. Another nation chipping in against their interests.
This is so ridiculous I am surprised anyone would type such words.
By taking over Ukraine, Russia will have expanded the NATO countries on its border by 4: Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania.
And by Russia's own terrorist actions, this will soon be expanded by 2 more: Finland and Sweden.
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This is so ridiculous I am surprised anyone would type such words.
You must be new here, there have been plenty of things typed more ridiculous than this!
The result of this eruption will be more NATO perhaps, and or maybe something else....
This info is totally false.
What was happening was that Africans (also Indians) were pushing ahead of Ukrainian women and children.
Only then were they sent to the back.
If you go off of individual accountings, it seems there are some legit claims. Or it is always possible everybody is lying. It is hard to believe that Africans would have the audacity to push ahead of everybody else. They already stand out as different, it would be amazingly arrogant for them to push up and create a scene like that, given the whole situation.
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It is hard to believe that Africans would have the audacity to push ahead of everybody else. They already stand out as different, it would be amazingly arrogant for them to push up and create a scene like that, given the whole situation.
But you are not understanding the background of many of the African (and Indian) people (mostly students in the current case).
Many (most) of them are considered the elites of their countries.
Their family money and status (Brahmins and Kshatriyas in the case of Indians) is what allows them to go to other countries to study.
They are used to being deferred to by others and feel it is their right (without even considering it) to take any actions (including to push to front of lines) to achieve whatever they want.
I have seen (by accident) their actions first hand here in USA, although they are generally very careful to not have such actions seen by persons of authority here in USA.
To me they are super pleasant, but to shopkeepers and blue collar folks, not so.
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But you are not understanding the background of many of the African (and Indian) people (mostly students in the current case).
Many (most) of them are considered the elites of their countries.
Their family money and status (Brahmins and Kshatriyas in the case of Indians) is what allows them to go to other countries to study.
They are used to being deferred to by others and feel it is their right (without even considering it) to take any actions (including to push to front of lines) to achieve whatever they want.
I have seen (by accident) their actions first hand here in USA, although they are generally very careful to not have such actions seen by persons of authority here in USA.
To me they are super pleasant, but to shopkeepers and blue collar folks, not so.
Umm, I disagree.
The students who go to Ukraine are those who aren’t able to get into institutions in their own country and it also costs a lot more there.
So they go to Ukraine, no highly competitive exams to get admission and much cheaper.
Caste or social status doesn’t enter into the equation.
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To me they are super pleasant, but to shopkeepers and blue collar folks, not so.
Indians and Africans (Nigerians) have been the most difficult people to deal with in my shop. Nevertheless most of the time, I can square things away well enough.
But you are not understanding the background of many of the African (and Indian) people (mostly students in the current case).
Many (most) of them are considered the elites of their countries.
Their family money and status (Brahmins and Kshatriyas in the case of Indians) is what allows them to go to other countries to study.
They are used to being deferred to by others and feel it is their right (without even considering it) to take any actions (including to push to front of lines) to achieve whatever they want.
I have seen (by accident) their actions first hand here in USA, although they are generally very careful to not have such actions seen by persons of authority here in USA.
I'm really having a hard time believing they would push up in line ahead of all the natives. Just doesn't seem likely. They would be cruising for an ass-kicking, and as they stand out so dramatically to begin with, I just don't see it happening like that.
The entitled elite part though does ring at least somewhat accurate. I'm not there obviously...
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It is shown in the videos of BandB and JohnnyFD leaving Ukraine.
Indians pushing into the lines at the Railroad station.
Johnny also has an interview with some Africans.
http://www.youtube.com/c/JohnnyFD/videos (http://www.youtube.com/c/JohnnyFD/videos)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzBxFH_hEwA
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I'm really having a hard time believing they would push up in line ahead of all the natives. Just doesn't seem likely. They would be cruising for an ass-kicking, and as they stand out so dramatically to begin with, I just don't see it happening like that.
No, they did push ahead. This is according to most of what I've read and seen online.
As I posted previously, Ukrainians have a particular attitude toward women and children. So men, whether local or foreign, are always going to be behind women and children with Ukrainian border guards. Maksym Chmerkovskiy , who apparently is on Dancing with the Stars, crossed the border. He said he was "embarrased and ashamed", as he was the only man crossing the border.
The scene at the border is chaotic. Those foreign students were always going to have to wait a long time.
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Only a complete idiot can't see the contradiction in what you are writing. You state all Americans living abroad are 'guilty'. (Idiotic statement), because they 'tacitly' agree with their host country's government.
No, I didn't say that. You are trying to put words in my mouth.
Anyone who lives in a foreign country, do so as a privilege extended by the host government. They tacitly agree that they are there as a privilege and by the favor of the host government, and that privilege can be revoked should they fall out of favor of the host government.
After this, you try to demand all Russians living here in green card status be expelled or imprisoned...you say this while saying how expats tacitly approve of the government in their host country (Russians here).
I didn't say they have to approve of the host government. They just agreed to abide by the rules that allow them to be there by privilege.
We need only to look at Switzerland. What did they just do? They just suspended all visas issued to Russians, except diplomatic visas. They stated that they will not allow any Russians to be in Switzerland.
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Only a complete idiot can't see the contradiction in what you are writing. You state all Americans living abroad are 'guilty'. (Idiotic statement), because they 'tacitly' agree with their host country's government.
No, I didn't say that. You are trying to put words in my mouth.
Yes, you are guilty of something. You are guilty of choosing to live there. You are guilty of tacitly agreeing with the decisions of the government there.
Seems to me YOU did make that statement. Are you now denying it, or do you need to clarify it in some way...
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As an American living abroad, I don't see it this way. I live in a country that provides immigrants the same rights that a citizen has. The only exception is voting and the possibility of expulsion if I break the law in a significant way. Privilege by your definition, implies immigrants should be afforded fewer rights than a citizen. That is not the case here, nor is it, AFAIK, the case in the US.
You don't seem to understand the difference between rights and privileges. If someone is in another country by privilege, then they have privileges which may mirror the rights given to citizens of the host country.
There's an old saying. Possession is 9/10th's of the law. (legal title is the other 1/10th.)
Someone who owns a house has the right to live in it.
A renter appears to have the right to live in a house. (9/10th) But really, they are there by privilege and not by right. (and they can lose that privilege, as easily evidenced by evictions.)
After this, you try to demand all Russians living here in green card status be expelled or imprisoned...you say this while saying how expats tacitly approve of the government in their host country (Russians here).
No, I am just a strong supporter of strong property rights. (and I didn't say that expats have to approve of a host government's actions. They just tacitly agree that they are there by favor of the host government, and the host government can name them a persona non-grata if they wish, and boot them out.)
Those arguing that expats have rights (which are actually privileges) are just trying to erode property rights.
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Having lived abroad in many countries long term,I am all too familiar with the privilege granted by the host governments honoring a visa they issued ,and that they can certainly choose to revoke that visa at any time.
Fortunately none of them are prone to toddler like tantrums ,or likely to hold foreign workers in thier countries liable for the foreign policy decisions of their national.governments,as they recognize those can change on a dime.
Having the right to do something, doesn't always make it the right thing to do. This seems a concept that is easy for most to grasp.
Get back to me when the usa revokes those here on visas ok?
Are you aware that Switzerland just suspended all Russian visas except for diplomatic visas, and said they would not allow any Russians to be there?
Are you forgetting that the US put Japanese-Americans in concentration camps in WWII? What makes you think they wouldn't do something similar again when faced with another war? Oh wait, we are faced with another war...caused by Russia invading and attacking Ukraine.
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I mentioned to wife how it is a shame that other countries didn't earlier send the planes and weapons to Ukraine that they are now doing.
She said quite simple explanation:
Countries did not believe Ukraine would last very long, and didn't want all the weapons to end up in the hands of Russians.
The US approved to send early models of the Javelin to Ukraine. They are not sending the latest and the greatest Javelin anti-tank weaponry. I assume the US thinks Russia already has that technology, or that it will not pose much threat to us if Russia gains that technology.
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We can all claim to be geniuses or too good to be used as cannon fodder. After all who would want to be cannon fodder? Those that are fighting in Ukraine at the moment feel that they have no choice.
Genius is not determined by self-made claims. Generally, you have to have an IQ above 140 to be classified as a genius.
Anyone with a 130-135 IQ can pretty much learn to do any job.
Most college kids in STEM fields have an IQ of 120+.
Average white IQ is around 100.
With an IQ of 90, a person has a hard time following written instructions. You see people with this IQ doing manual labor jobs, rather than intellectual jobs. (Average Mexican IQ is 91.)
Average African-American IQ is 85. (At this IQ and below, you see a lot of welfare, as they have a hard time learning jobs that require thinking.)
The US military will not allow anyone to join if their IQ is less than 83. They are basically so stupid they are more of a liability than an asset. When the government has allowed soldiers with lower IQ's into the military, we ended up with McNamara's Morons.
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I was listening to talk radio on the way home today. Commentator said that the US and Europe have confiscated trillions in Russian money. Once this battle is over, and the West tries to hold it, Russia will seemingly have little way to get their money returned....seemingly.
I think trillions is overblown. Russia had $600 billion. (Who knows how much was frozen from oligarch accounts.)
If Ukraine remains a nation state, odds are they will sue Russia for the damage to their country in some international court. If they win, they would be able to take some of the money that is held by sanctions.
Something tells me that if Ukrainian politicians get their hands on $600 billion, it won't all get spent for the benefit of the Ukrainian citizens. (But I'd be willing to bet that a number of Ukrainian politicians would end up with fatter bank accounts somewhere.)
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I agree.
News reporters crying that if Russian oil cut off, prices will rise in the west.
Who gives a shit about that??
I will willingly pay any price for gas and oil to stop Russia.
Going to cost us a lot more in reconstruction expenses.
We might have to open the Keystone pipeline...and we can't have that.
Reconstruction? I'm surprised anyone is even mentioning that. You mean there's going to be a 'what comes after'? Doesn't everyone just ride off in the sunset? (Or live in the new gulag called Ukraine, if Russia wins.)
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Average African-American IQ is 85.
I was dubious about this low number, but did a search and even the super left wing Brookings Institute studies indicates it is true.
You can go directly to the last page (13) for the facts as many of the first pages are too obtuse.
http://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/20060619_IQ_ppt.pdf
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After Ukraine is decimated due to western countries refusal to give full needed help . . . then Russia will go after Finland.
The west will say, enough is enough, and throw everything we have at Russia to save non-NATO Finland.
Try explaining that to the Ukrainians who survive.
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In a rare moment of 'light' banter, wife and I had a series of back and forth comments.
Me: Suppose western countries did attempt to set up a no fly zone over Ukraine.
She: West would surely shoot down some Russian planes and Russia would scream.
Me: We could do just as the Russians always do which is to lie and deny.
She: Yes, we could say there were no western planes over the sky in Ukraine.
Me: Yes, when Russia would again state their planes were shot down, we would say: We have no credible evidence that any western planes were in the sky.
She: If your Russian planes went missing, it's probably due to malfunction of your Russian planes. In fact, we don't think you even have planes available to be shot down.
Me: If your Russian planes shot down, it was probably by your own troops misfiring your antiaircraft missiles.
etc., etc.
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I'm going to have disagree to the relevance issue. I can't speak for Russia, but from their view they may well think what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
I'm attempting to put myself in their shoes. From their viewpoint they probably think they need to limit how far the West can start to have influence and right up on their doorstep is too far.
If they want to limit the West's influence, that is EASY. Improve the quality of their citizens' lives. Give them a quality of life that equals or exceeds Western life.
Boom. It's that simple. If they do that, their sphere of influence will grow.
But if they want to play mafia gangster, then they will always have to resort to strongarm tactics to hold power and influence.
Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. are not Western countries. If Russia gave its citizens the quality of life that Hong Kong and Singapore citizens have, you would see Ukraine falling over itself to be buddies with Russia. Ukraine wouldn't give one iota about Europe or the West.
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If they want to limit the West's influence, that is EASY. Improve the quality of their citizens' lives. Give them a quality of life that equals or exceeds Western life.
Boom. It's that simple. If they do that, their sphere of influence will grow.
But if they want to play mafia gangster, then they will always have to resort to strongarm tactics to hold power and influence.
The obvious answer to this from a Russian perspective could easily be..... The West has already been playing gangster in nations such as Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan...etc etc. To compete we have to be gangsters too.
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Years ago when it was Syrian's trying to escape, they were called dregs of society, and terrorists among chants of send them back! ....now that it is Ukrainians, they are civilians. In both cases they are civilians.
But is it racial, or is it cultural?
The average IQ of Syrian refugees was 81.6. In Western societies, this means they could draw welfare benefits. The average Syrian refugee would be a burden on society, rather than a blessing.
The average Ukrainian refugee has an IQ around 100. They are going to have the potential to learn jobs and be a productive member of society. (Yes, a Syrian has the potential to be a ditch digger, but backhoes and excavators eliminated the need for ditch diggers.)
How many Syrian refugees had a college degree? How many Ukrainian refugees have a college degree?
How many Syrian refugees had a Muslim faith that is hostile to Western Christianity? But Ukrainians are Christians too.
Which refugee is going to be able to assimilate into Western culture easier? The Ukrainian.
It's not racial discrimination. It's cultural.
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I do not believe for a moment that the invasion of Ukraine is about NATO. It was because Ukraine was at a turning point as a nation. Having a truly democratic nation next door was the threat to Russia. Not NATO.
I agree. Latvia and Estonia border Russia, and they are both NATO members. Lithuania and Poland are both NATO and they surround Kaliningrad. (Which incidentally was historically German, so it should be returned to German if you accept Putin's argument.)
Have you ever seen someone who had to sell off part of the family farm, and then for years afterwards was bitter and resentful, because it was supposed to be 'their' farm? That's what Putin reminds me of...that mentality.
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An Indian guy was complaining at Kiev train station that he'd been pushed back with a rifle butt in his back,but he'd been trying to force his way past a Ukrainian woman and her child onto a train.Black men on the steps leading up to the platform were being VERY aggressive toward Ukrainian women and their children in their way,until Ukrainian troops yelled at them to get back,and then lifted the women and children up out of the crush and onto the platform..this was all filmed by Sky News.
It was my understanding that men between 18 and 60 were not permitted to leave Ukraine.
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It was my understanding that men between 18 and 60 were not permitted to leave Ukraine.
Applies to Ukrainian citizens only. Male foreigners of any age in Ukraine are allowed to depart.
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It doesn't have to be threatened, as in theory (though not in practice), communism has many desirable aspects.
I was reading a piece on Putin's cabinet, and the fact most were in the dark about the invasion.
Communism is probably the ideal form of government, but the problem is that it is only ideal at the family level. You can't scale it up past that.
At the family level, the parents and all the kids have clothes to wear, and food to eat. They all live in the same house with the same amenities. (Yes, there are examples of bad parents, but I think they are the exception and not the rule.)
From what I can tell, (and reading between the lines a little) I got the impression that Putin duped everyone into believing that he was just going to send a few troops into Donbass as peacekeepers after they recognized them as independent republics. So Parliament agreed to recognize Luhansk and Donetsk and authorize troops to operate outside Russia...they gave Putin a blank check, and he ran with it.
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The obvious answer to this from a Russian perspective could easily be..... The West has already been playing gangster in nations such as Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan...etc etc. To compete we have to be gangsters too.
Fathertime!
To be certain everyone recognizes the dubious posting style .... something which "could easily be" is NOT the same as "obvious." Time and again FT engages in bloviated hypotheses used as a foil to criticize the US and the West. The pattern is the same ad nauseum.
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To be certain everyone recognizes the dubious posting style .... something which "could easily be" is NOT the same as "obvious." Time and again FT engages in bloviated hypotheses used as a foil to criticize the US and the West. The pattern is the same ad nauseum.
Aside from the sematic type inconsistency...the point itself is valid enough to make.
Fathertime!
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If they want to limit the West's influence, that is EASY. Improve the quality of their citizens' lives. Give them a quality of life that equals or exceeds Western life.
Boom. It's that simple. If they do that, their sphere of influence will grow.
But if they want to play mafia gangster, then they will always have to resort to strongarm tactics to hold power and influence.
Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. are not Western countries. If Russia gave its citizens the quality of life that Hong Kong and Singapore citizens have, you would see Ukraine falling over itself to be buddies with Russia. Ukraine wouldn't give one iota about Europe or the West.
I'd clarify an important point about your parallel, and that is Singapore and Hong Kong are not the same in terms of their connection to the regional superpower. Whereas Hong Kong was ceded back to China from Britain in 1997, Singapore is an independent nation-state having no political connections to China. Singapore enjoys a higher standard of living equal to the US. I have probably 100 (or more) visa stamps from transiting or visiting Singapore, along with half that to Hong Kong. There is no other city like Singapore in Asia. It is massively different. In that regard, at least, your parallel to suggest China provides for Hong Kong and Singapore standards of living is really only correct for Hong Kong.
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Genius is not determined by self-made claims. Generally, you have to have an IQ above 140 to be classified as a genius.
Anyone with a 130-135 IQ can pretty much learn to do any job.
Most college kids in STEM fields have an IQ of 120+.
Average white IQ is around 100.
With an IQ of 90, a person has a hard time following written instructions. You see people with this IQ doing manual labor jobs, rather than intellectual jobs. (Average Mexican IQ is 91.)
Average African-American IQ is 85. (At this IQ and below, you see a lot of welfare, as they have a hard time learning jobs that require thinking.)
The US military will not allow anyone to join if their IQ is less than 83. They are basically so stupid they are more of a liability than an asset. When the government has allowed soldiers with lower IQ's into the military, we ended up with McNamara's Morons.
So this is another potential quagmire, this one involving race and Intelligence Quotient (IQ). The most authoritative book I know of on the topic was highly controversial called "The Bell Curve." The authors were well-respected academics and researchers. I recall it was published more than a decade ago and it aroused enormous debate and sparked huge arguments. I accept that the study exists. I accept that there are works which counter those studies. Beyond that, I really do NOT want a re-hash of all that here at RWD. Readers/members can find those details elsewhere.
Appreciate everyone's efforts to keep race out of any debate. It leads down a rabbit hole that will result in topic closures and post removals, etc.
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In a rare moment of 'light' banter, wife and I had a series of back and forth comments.
Me: Suppose western countries did attempt to set up a no fly zone over Ukraine.
She: West would surely shoot down some Russian planes and Russia would scream.
Me: We could do just as the Russians always do which is to lie and deny.
She: Yes, we could say there were no western planes over the sky in Ukraine.
Me: Yes, when Russia would again state their planes were shot down, we would say: We have no credible evidence that any western planes were in the sky.
She: If your Russian planes went missing, it's probably due to malfunction of your Russian planes. In fact, we don't think you even have planes available to be shot down.
Me: If your Russian planes shot down, it was probably by your own troops misfiring your antiaircraft missiles.
etc., etc.
I have told people (including my Congressional rep) that if we are unwilling to impose a no-fly zone, we should have covert military action. Fly F-22 Raptors and B-2 Stealth bombers at night so nobody could take photos. We bomb Russian positions at night, and shoot down any Russian aircraft flying at night.
We would have deniability. No, it wasn't us. It must have been the Ukrainian military.
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The obvious answer to this from a Russian perspective could easily be..... The West has already been playing gangster in nations such as Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan...etc etc. To compete we have to be gangsters too.
The Holodomor was long before the things you mentioned. If the Holodomor wasn't gangster, I don't know what is.
The Russians don't have to be gangster to compete with other nations, because they took the gangster path first. (One could argue that the West started being gangster to compete.)
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I have told people (including my Congressional rep) that if we are unwilling to impose a no-fly zone, we should have covert military action. Fly F-22 Raptors and B-2 Stealth bombers at night so nobody could take photos. We bomb Russian positions at night, and shoot down any Russian aircraft flying at night.
We would have deniability. No, it wasn't us. It must have been the Ukrainian military.
Any direct confrontation with the Russian forces from any NATO country is a direct way for a nuke party.
The Russian Federation is already enough nervous, the option in Ukraine of a tactical nuke is already a feared topic...So if you want WW3...
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Any direct confrontation with the Russian forces from any NATO country is a direct way for a nuke party.
The Russian Federation is already enough nervous, the option in Ukraine of a tactical nuke is already a feared topic...So if you want WW3...
Yes, it seems everyone is quaking in their boots over this. So think it through. What would be the likely response from Russian use of a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine?
The chance of Russia using a tactical nuclear weapon prior to a strategic nuclear weapon is, IMHO, almost zero. Putin has famously stated that a world without Russia is a world not worth existing - so it must be considered that if Putin believes Mother Russia itself is threatened, a scorched earth (literally as well as figuratively) policy would be implemented. For those who really want to stoke their paranoia fears, look at Russia's Dead Hand automatically engaged strategic nuclear device.
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Yes, it seems everyone is quaking in their boots over this. So think it through. What would be the likely response from Russian use of a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine?
The chance of Russia using a tactical nuclear weapon prior to a strategic nuclear weapon is, IMHO, almost zero. Putin has famously stated that a world without Russia is a world not worth existing - so it must be considered that if Putin believes Mother Russia itself is threatened, a scorched earth (literally as well as figuratively) policy would be implemented. For those who really want to stoke their paranoia fears, look at Russia's Dead Hand automatically engaged strategic nuclear device.
Who says that he would use a strategic one?
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The obvious answer to this from a Russian perspective could easily be..... The West has already been playing gangster in nations such as Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan...etc etc. To compete we have to be gangsters too.
Fathertime!
Russia was playing gangster in Afghanistan before we ever did.
I also remember Russia playing gangster in Georgia.
I also remember Russia playing gangster in Syria..remember the cluster bombs they dropped on civilians there ?.
Russia didn't learn about being gangsters from the west..it's in their DNA.
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Big demonstrations in USA now..calling for a no fly zone in Ukraine.
Another 3500 people arrested in Russia last night for protests against the war.
Protests against the war in 120 countries this weekend..and Fathertime says people in most countries are not concerned about the war. :rolleyes:
Does he get anything right ?
He did say Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine and he got that totally wrong.
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Big demonstrations in USA now..calling for a no fly zone in Ukraine.
Another 3500 people arrested in Russia last night for protests against the war.
Protests against the war in 120 countries this weekend..and Fathertime says people in most countries are not concerned about the war. :rolleyes:
Does he get anything right ?
He did say Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine and he got that totally wrong.
Thanks for the mention, you seem to be personalizing this instead of speaking of the issues.
Protests in countries all the time about everything. We had protests in the USA during our wars too.
Fathertime!
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Yes, it seems everyone is quaking in their boots over this. So think it through. What would be the likely response from Russian use of a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine?
Dismissing the topic of nuclear weapons as 'quaking in boots' isn't addressing it.
The scenario currently is probably (Your favorite word), getting close to the maximum the west can do without forcing a Russian escalation. Not a straight escalation into nukes, more butchery in Ukraine. Western media seems to indicate that Europe and the US are pouring $ and weaponry into Ukraine. Russian leadership is likely (Another favorite word), coming to the realization that they will have to escalate rapidly to end the war quicker before the Western resources come into play.
Fathertime!
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Washington — Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday (March 6, 2022) that NATO members have the go-ahead to send fighter jets to Ukraine as the U.S. and allies continue their efforts to help Ukraine defend itself against Russia's invasion.
"That gets a green-light," Blinken said in an interview with "Face the Nation" when asked whether the Polish government, a member of NATO, could send fighter planes to Ukraine. "In fact, we're talking with our Polish friends right now about what we might be able to do to backfill their needs if in fact they choose to provide these fighter jets to the Ukrainians. What can we do? How can we help to make sure that they get something to backfill the planes that they are handing over to the Ukrainians?"
But then some 'waffling'
A White House spokesperson told CBS News the Biden administration is evaluating the capabilities it could provide to provide jets to Poland if it decided to transfer planes to Ukraine but noted there are several questions that arise from a decision to do so, including how the jets could be transferred from Poland to Ukraine.
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Wife just read that now Poland has flipped back to NOT sending fighter planes to Ukraine.
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Wife just read that now Poland has flipped back to NOT sending fighter planes to Ukraine.
ML, it's due to fear of escalating the war beyond Ukraine. Russia also warned other countries that use of their airports to support Ukraine would result in them being targeted.
The US, NATO and EU position on the war in Ukraine can best be understood as following the principle of 'realpolitik.' You can read the Wikipedia entry about it here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik
Essentially it seeks to separate political action/response from emotion. It also separates out the ideology and focuses only on the rational prediction of consequences. Therein lies its fundamental weakness - it depends on the actors to behave rationally. It is useless when it comes to fighting against terrorists, and it quickly loses value when one of the actors is irrational. To this point, the US, EU and NATO are receiving rational signals from Putin. So long as that persists, it will be realpolitik which drives actions. It does not bode well for Ukraine.
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IIRC fighters would be classified as offensive weapons. AFAIK, most if not all weapons provided to UA are defensive.
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ML, it's due to fear of escalating the war beyond Ukraine. Russia also warned other countries that use of their airports to support Ukraine would result in them being targeted.
The US, NATO and EU position on the war in Ukraine can best be understood as following the principle of 'realpolitik.' You can read the Wikipedia entry about it here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik)
Essentially it seeks to separate political action/response from emotion. It also separates out the ideology and focuses only on the rational prediction of consequences. Therein lies its fundamental weakness - it depends on the actors to behave rationally. It is useless when it comes to fighting against terrorists, and it quickly loses value when one of the actors is irrational. To this point, the US, EU and NATO are receiving rational signals from Putin. So long as that persists, it will be realpolitik which drives actions. It does not bode well for Ukraine.
+1
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Interesting interview with an American general.
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/opinion-why-putin-will-regret-launching-this-war/ar-AAUHOPV?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggFp5
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Can videos be posted here? Very graphic content, not from MSM.
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Yes, but I would put a warning on the video.
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Yes, but I would put a warning on the video.
File is too big, I think.
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How about something like putting it on You Tube then posting the link here.
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How about something like putting it on You Tube then posting the link here.
No, it’s not suitable.
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No, it’s not suitable.
imgur.com/
streamable.com/
mega.com
maybe?
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Russia's demands for an end of its operations are less than I would have expected. Perhaps Ukraine leadership will decide it is better to live with these than the alternatives. I would suspect that the demands would grow the more Russia invests, and obviously the death count and destruction does nothing but grow.
Russia will stop 'in a moment' if Ukraine meets terms - Kremlin
LONDON (Reuters) -Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.
Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.
http://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-115703035.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-115703035.html)
Fathertime!
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imgur.com/
streamable.com/
mega.com
maybe?
I’m not on any of those sites.
I’ll try and edit to reduce the file size. Won’t be for a while though.
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Russia's demands for an end of its operations are less than I would have expected. Perhaps Ukraine leadership will decide it is better to live with these than the alternatives. I would suspect that the demands would grow the more Russia invests, and obviously the death count and destruction does nothing but grow.
Russia will stop 'in a moment' if Ukraine meets terms - Kremlin
LONDON (Reuters) -Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.
Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.
http://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-115703035.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-115703035.html)
Fathertime!
NATO Ukraine's membership is highly questionable and I suppose that USA has some responsibility of Zelinsky's mind with this. The EU membership will need at least 12 years before becoming reality, again Zelinski asking to be part of the EU for tomorrow is laughable.
However, the only thing I am sure of every day passing by is the list of demands from the Russian Federation is naturally going to shrink because the RF already know that they will have to bail out and the number of their days in Ukraine is compted, they know this.And now they try to get a political gain from this. Which is likely to look like a player at Vegas casino having fewer and fewer cards in his hand but still trying to bid high before he loses the entire party and all his money.
When you read the communique you already know that they will not stay in Ukraine
This is why Ukraine has to continue the attrition of the RF Army. The time is clocking in favor of Ukraine. RF knows that they have already lost the party and internally the power is at stake as the days are passing by. Even if Ukraine was signing, the RF will maybe not stand like it was.
The breakdown of the RF regime can happen every day and very fast now. So they try to materialize their gains right now before the cards are over.
The RF is demilitarizing herself and proving right now that her world military ranking, the guarantee of her political power, is questionable on the battlefield. No military HQ in the world has missed the point believe me.
The demilitarization of the RF means that they will need 5 years at least before being militarily capable to conduct the same level of operation
that they started two weeks ago. But the political conditions will never be the same, internally and externally.
They have played their chances for a coup and missed the shot. They hope to get some benefits, but in fact, they maybe could pay the bill.
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However, the only thing I am sure of every day passing by is the list of demands from the Russian Federation is naturally going to shrink because the RF already know that they will have to bail out and the number of their days in Ukraine is compted, they know this.And now they try to get a political gain from this. Which is likely to look like a player at Vegas casino having fewer and fewer cards in his hand but still trying to bid high before he loses the entire party and all his money.
Given the totality of the situation the demands weren't as big as perhaps expected. It could be that Putin's demands were made public to provide some political cover to the nations that aren't cutting Russia off. Nations like China, India, Pakistan could see these demands as not unreasonable, given the circumstances. If that is the case, those nations could continue to provide outlets for Russia, now and in the future.
However, the only thing I am sure of every day passing by is the list of demands from the Russian Federation is naturally going to shrink because the RF already know that they will have to bail out a
This is why Ukraine has to continue the attrition of the RF Army. The time is clocking in favor of Ukraine. RF knows that they have already lost the party and internally the power is at stake as the days are passing by.
If Russia's demands are going to shrink, as you assert, then Ukraine would have more incentive to continue to fight. I'm not convinced that will be the case unless Russia is willing to take a total loss. It seems they would go to much greater lengths which would encompass destruction of Ukraine on an even much wider scale.
Fathertime!
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Given the totality of the situation the demands weren't as big as perhaps expected. It could be that Putin's demands were made public to provide some political cover to the nations that aren't cutting Russia off. Nations like China, India, Pakistan could see these demands as not unreasonable, given the circumstances. If that is the case, those nations could continue to provide outlets for Russia, now and in the future.
If Russia's demands are going to shrink, as you assert, then Ukraine would have more incentive to continue to fight. I'm not convinced that will be the case unless Russia is willing to take a total loss. It seems they would go to much greater lengths which would encompass destruction of Ukraine on an even much wider scale.
Fathertime!
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Russia will stop 'in a moment' if Ukraine meets terms - Kremlin
LONDON (Reuters) -Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.
Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.
http://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-115703035.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-115703035.html)
Fathertime!
I don't know what to advise on this . . . as I don't want a surrender, but also want the killing to stop.
I do pray that if war stops, that USA and all other nations continue existing sanctions on Russia until Russia provides the funds to rebuild all the structures and infrastructure that has been destroyed by them in Ukraine.
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Guys, look at the map, Russian forces have now reached Kyiv from the North (finally) and the East of Kyiv. Russia shelled out Irpin yesterday so it's tanks could move in. The bridge has been blown there and Kyiv is literally the other side. If Russian forces on the East of Kyiv can move around and block the South of Kyiv then Kyiv will be encircled and trapped. It's then just a matter of time. Russian forces don't particularly then have to move into Kyiv, they just wait until food starts running out and Kyivians are fed up of being bombed. The the Capitulation comes and then it is likely a sorted for Russia. By the end of this week things will probably be looking even grimmer in Kyiv then they already are.
I'm surprised Mariupol is still holding out, it can't be much longer until they capitulate, they've been shelled to bits and can't be far from starvation now.
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I don't know what to advise on this . . . as I don't want a surrender, but also want the killing to stop.
I do pray that if war stops, that USA and all other nations continue existing sanctions on Russia until Russia provides the funds to rebuild all the structures and infrastructure that has been destroyed by them in Ukraine.
ML ... this is incredibly, insanely, difficult. Imagine Zelensky and his advisors trying to determine what to do. I am certain he does not want any more Ukrainian - or Russian, for that matter - deaths. But the decision involves more, much more, than that.
As for rebuilding, Zelensky says he is already planning for rebuilding and has contacted numerous sources to secure aid in reconstruction. If Russia occupies Ukraine, I cannot imagine them having or securing the resources to rebuild.
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Guys, look at the map, Russian forces have now reached Kyiv from the North (finally) and the East of Kyiv. Russia shelled out Irpin yesterday so it's tanks could move in. The bridge has been blown there and Kyiv is literally the other side. If Russian forces on the East of Kyiv can move around and block the South of Kyiv then Kyiv will be encircled and trapped. It's then just a matter of time. Russian forces don't particularly then have to move into Kyiv, they just wait until food starts running out and Kyivians are fed up of being bombed. The the Capitulation comes and then it is likely a sorted for Russia. By the end of this week things will probably be looking even grimmer in Kyiv then they already are.
I'm surprised Mariupol is still holding out, it can't be much longer until they capitulate, they've been shelled to bits and can't be far from starvation now.
Mr Armchair General, there are several flaws in your plagiarised summary.
First of all, the Russian supply lines are being severely pulverized. A whole column of fuel trucks was blown up today heading for Kyiv.
Without fuel their armour and supporting vehicles grind to a halt.
So the Russians will not take the city without a fight.
Say in the long run they overrun the defending forces and take Kyiv along with other major population centres, then we will see a long war of attrition.
The Russians will control the major cities but there will be the vast swathes of country in between over which they will have no control. Their supply lines will be vulnerable and without supplies they will be quite vulnerable.
Partisan warfare at its best.
Carry on.
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Given the totality of the situation the demands weren't as big as perhaps expected. It could be that Putin's demands were made public to provide some political cover to the nations that aren't cutting Russia off. Nations like China, India, Pakistan could see these demands as not unreasonable, given the circumstances. If that is the case, those nations could continue to provide outlets for Russia, now and in the future.
If Russia's demands are going to shrink, as you assert, then Ukraine would have more incentive to continue to fight. I'm not convinced that will be the case unless Russia is willing to take a total loss. It seems they would go to much greater lengths which would encompass destruction of Ukraine on an even much wider scale.
Fathertime!
No, the demands are because internal Russian analysis is telling them they can't win in the long term. Putin believed the Ukrainian population would capitulate, that his troops would just march in and take the country. He never expected resistance. That's why there is this "face saving" measure.
I don't think Ukraine should agree to neutrality. I think Ukraine should have good relations with Russia, but given everything that's happened since 2014, that will take at least a generation.
Russia has planted landmines in civilian escape corridors, shot fleeing civilians (women and children), dropped cluster bombs in civilian areas of Kharkiv, and lost control of at least one city they had taken. They can't go to a "greater scale" unless they are willing to lose thousands of soldiers to do so.
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Partisan warfare at its best.
Yup. The Soviets didn't defeat Ukrainian partisans in Western Ukraine (the "banderivtsi") until around 1953-54, and those partisans were fighting the Poles simultaneously! There are thousands of Ukrainian villages, and they can't be taken.
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This is an FSB analysis. The original article is in the Telegraph (an excellent newspaper). However, the Telegraph is a pay site and I can't share a token, so I am providing a link to the Daily Mail's synopsis, which is also fairly good, notwithstanding the somewhat dodgy source.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10585325/Russia-facing-total-failure-invasion-Ukraine-Moscow-whistleblower-analyst-claims.html
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Wife just read that now Poland has flipped back to NOT sending fighter planes to Ukraine.
Poland doesn't make fighter jets, so they want assurances from the
USA that the jets they give away will be replaced. I haven't found
anything anywhere about who pays for the replacement jets.
I have read reports that replacement jets won't arrive for a couple
years, 2024 or later. Also to be noted are what types of jets would
be given to Ukraine. This is not my expertise, but would think that
right now they could use fighter/bombers and close air support types
that have at least some stealth ability.
I will ask my son what he thinks about it.
If we are giving away planes, I am pretty sure that it would be in
the package that congress is currently putting together, the problem
is when you get politicians involved, they tend to screw it up, screw
around with it, pork it up, hold it up so they can push their green new
deal, etc. etc.
U.S. Congress negotiators nearing deal on Ukraine aid, government funding bill
http://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-aim-reset-domestic-legislative-agenda-after-biden-speech-2022-03-07/
White House wants $10 billion for Ukraine aid, $22.5 billion for more COVID help
http://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/03/03/white-house-wants-10-billion-for-ukraine-aid-22-5-billion-for-more-covid-help/
UK pledges another £80 million in aid to help Ukraine deal with humanitarian crisis
http://www.gov.uk/government/news/ukraine-uk-pledges-another-80million-in-aid-to-help-ukraine-deal-with-humanitarian-crisis
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This is an FSB analysis. The original article is in the Telegraph (an excellent newspaper). However, the Telegraph is a pay site and I can't share a token, so I am providing a link to the Daily Mail's synopsis, which is also fairly good, notwithstanding the somewhat dodgy source.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10585325/Russia-facing-total-failure-invasion-Ukraine-Moscow-whistleblower-analyst-claims.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10585325/Russia-facing-total-failure-invasion-Ukraine-Moscow-whistleblower-analyst-claims.html)
As I wrote in response to a criticism of my choice of sources recently, I care very little about the source itself, if the information is credible and passes my own filtering system, I want to pay attention. I may not agree with all of it, or any of it, but I still pay attention. Thanks for the link. It rings true to my ears, FWIW.
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Poland doesn't make fighter jets, so they want assurances from the
USA that the jets they give away will be replaced. I haven't found
anything anywhere about who pays for the replacement jets.
I have read reports that replacement jets won't arrive for a couple
years, 2024 or later. Also to be noted are what types of jets would
be given to Ukraine. This is not my expertise, but would think that
right now they could use fighter/bombers and close air support types
that have at least some stealth ability.
I will ask my son what he thinks about it.
If we are giving away planes, I am pretty sure that it would be in
the package that congress is currently putting together, the problem
is when you get politicians involved, they tend to screw it up, screw
around with it, pork it up, hold it up so they can push their green new
deal, etc. etc.
U.S. Congress negotiators nearing deal on Ukraine aid, government funding bill
http://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-aim-reset-domestic-legislative-agenda-after-biden-speech-2022-03-07/ (http://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-aim-reset-domestic-legislative-agenda-after-biden-speech-2022-03-07/)
White House wants $10 billion for Ukraine aid, $22.5 billion for more COVID help
http://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/03/03/white-house-wants-10-billion-for-ukraine-aid-22-5-billion-for-more-covid-help/ (http://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/03/03/white-house-wants-10-billion-for-ukraine-aid-22-5-billion-for-more-covid-help/)
UK pledges another £80 million in aid to help Ukraine deal with humanitarian crisis
http://www.gov.uk/government/news/ukraine-uk-pledges-another-80million-in-aid-to-help-ukraine-deal-with-humanitarian-crisis (http://www.gov.uk/government/news/ukraine-uk-pledges-another-80million-in-aid-to-help-ukraine-deal-with-humanitarian-crisis)
Poland would transfer older MiG-29's to Ukraine which would be replaced by American F-16's. Poland has as many as 21 of the MiG-29s, but I don't know if all, or only some, of them are under consideration. Lots of details still to be resolved before any transfer is conducted.
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I don't know what to advise on this . . . as I don't want a surrender, but also want the killing to stop.
I do pray that if war stops, that USA and all other nations continue existing sanctions on Russia until Russia provides the funds to rebuild all the structures and infrastructure that has been destroyed by them in Ukraine.
I don't have a solution, but maybe an idea. Boot them out of the WTO.
Their membership in the WTO guarantees them very small taxation on
all their exports. If they get booted then they can be taxed at a higher
rate with the benefits going to rebuild Ukraine.
Although, things have in Ukraine supposedly improved. You need something
to ensure that the taxes collected don't go directly to mink coats and boob
jobs for the mistresses of the Rada members.
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Poland doesn't make fighter jets, so they want assurances from the
USA that the jets they give away will be replaced. I haven't found
anything anywhere about who pays for the replacement jets.
I have read reports that replacement jets won't arrive for a couple
years, 2024 or later. Also to be noted are what types of jets would
be given to Ukraine. This is not my expertise, but would think that
right now they could use fighter/bombers and close air support types
that have at least some stealth ability.
I will ask my son what he thinks about it.
If we are giving away planes, I am pretty sure that it would be in
the package that congress is currently putting together, the problem
is when you get politicians involved, they tend to screw it up, screw
around with it, pork it up, hold it up so they can push their green new
deal, etc. etc.
U.S. Congress negotiators nearing deal on Ukraine aid, government funding bill
http://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-aim-reset-domestic-legislative-agenda-after-biden-speech-2022-03-07/
White House wants $10 billion for Ukraine aid, $22.5 billion for more COVID help
http://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/03/03/white-house-wants-10-billion-for-ukraine-aid-22-5-billion-for-more-covid-help/
UK pledges another £80 million in aid to help Ukraine deal with humanitarian crisis
http://www.gov.uk/government/news/ukraine-uk-pledges-another-80million-in-aid-to-help-ukraine-deal-with-humanitarian-crisis
Giving planes in itself is not of much use as they will not be comparable with Ukrainian command and control systems.
There will be real difficulties in integrating off the shelf aircraft that are not compatible with those systems.
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Giving planes in itself is not of much use as they will not be comparable with Ukrainian command and control systems.
There will be real difficulties in integrating off the shelf aircraft that are not compatible with those systems.
I don't know all that is involved in integrating aircraft, other than installing
the proper IFF, (identification friend or foe) but Poland is talking about sending
MIG29's which is the majority of what the Ukrainian Air Force consists of.
Their pilots should be very familiar with the flying and fighting characteristics
of the plane. There could be a bunch of other stuff that I don't know about.
I am not an expert on this. My son is, but I haven't talked to him yet.
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Former USA National Security Advisor H.R.McMaster just been on Sky News saying NATO should go in now and enforce a no fly zone over Ukraine,,,he said NATO will need to get involved eventually anyway,so do it now before more Ukrainians are killed in air strikes against them,
He also said NATO need to enforce a Marine-free zone too.
When asked about people quaking in fear about Putin's threat to use Nukes he said well he would wouldn't he,his economy is tanking,his military has proved to be only good for bombing civilians,so all he has left is Nukes..but people shouldn't be in fear of his threats and need to stand up to him,because if we don't, and Russia wins, the war WILL spread,
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Giving planes in itself is not of much use as they will not be comparable with Ukrainian command and control systems.
There will be real difficulties in integrating off the shelf aircraft that are not compatible with those systems.
UA pilots would be familiar with, and qualified to fly the Polish MIGs. M-16's or such would then be sent to Poland, along with training etc.
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UA pilots would be familiar with, and qualified to fly the Polish MIGs. M-16's or such would then be sent to Poland, along with training etc.
They will be able to fly the planes, of course. Like I said, it’s the command and control with UKR systems that won’t be integrated.
Without those they might as well be flying blind.
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First of all, the Russian supply lines are being severely pulverized. A whole column of fuel trucks was blown up today heading for Kyiv.
Without fuel their armour and supporting vehicles grind to a halt.
Their supply lines will be vulnerable and without supplies they will be quite vulnerable.
You bring up a good point about logistics. It's been said that infantry wins battles, but logistics wins wars.
Russia's logistics supply chain is the railroad network. From what I understand, as soon as Russia started invading, Ukraine blew up every single rail line coming into Ukraine from Russia and Belarus. That halted the advance of the supply lines using rails, and requires using trucks to transport supplies farther. (And supposedly, Russia is lacking in trucks, and trucks are not armored, which makes them easy to disable with rifles.) Supposedly, Russia can only operate about 100 miles maximum in advance of their supply depot before they start running out of supplies.
Russia recently started camouflaging fuel trucks to look like regular supply trucks because they were being targeted so badly.
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I don't know what to advise on this . . . as I don't want a surrender, but also want the killing to stop.
I do pray that if war stops, that USA and all other nations continue existing sanctions on Russia until Russia provides the funds to rebuild all the structures and infrastructure that has been destroyed by them in Ukraine.
What is to keep Ukraine from suing Russia in international court for damages? I think there is a court in NY City that hears those cases. Supposedly, about half of Russia's $630 billion has been frozen in other countries by sanctions.
If Ukraine wins in court (and I don't see how they wouldn't) they can access those frozen, sanctioned funds. That's $300 billion they could potentially get their hands on. Suddenly, we're not talking about chump change anymore. That's over $6500 for every man, woman, and child in Ukraine. (and considering that the average net worth is like $2K...)
The bigger problem will be keeping Ukrainian government officials from trying to embezzle that $300 billion.
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UA pilots would be familiar with, and qualified to fly the Polish MIGs. M-16's or such would then be sent to Poland, along with training etc.
Poland already has some F-16's. From what I understand, the F-16's Poland has have older avionics. The US uses newer avionics in our F-16's, and the question is if the US is willing to allow Poland access to our newer and higher technology, or if we will have to give them F-16's with the older technology.
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What is to keep Ukraine from suing Russia in international court for damages? I think there is a court in NY City that hears those cases. Supposedly, about half of Russia's $630 billion has been frozen in other countries by sanctions.
If Ukraine wins in court (and I don't see how they wouldn't) they can access those frozen, sanctioned funds. That's $300 billion they could potentially get their hands on. Suddenly, we're not talking about chump change anymore. That's over $6500 for every man, woman, and child in Ukraine. (and considering that the average net worth is like $2K...)
The bigger problem will be keeping Ukrainian government officials from trying to embezzle that $300 billion.
Isn't most of that money the cash/assets of oligarchs, as opposed to the Russian government?
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Isn't most of that money the cash/assets of oligarchs, as opposed to the Russian government?
No, the $630 billion is supposed to be Russia's foreign currency reserves. About half of that was held in banks in other countries. That $300 billion has been frozen.
Location of Russia's $630 Billion foreign currency reserves
China 17.7% (not sanctioned)
France 15.6%
Japan 12.8%
Germany 12.2%
USA 8.5%
BIS/IMF 6.4%
UK 5.8%
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-russian-central-bank-is-running-out-of-options/
Personally, I don't think Russia will ever see that $300 billion. Or if they get it back, it will be in 50 years. Look how long we held onto money we sanctioned from Iran back in 1979. Is some still held, or did it all get given back to Iran a few years ago?
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You bring up a good point about logistics. It's been said that infantry wins battles, but logistics wins wars.
Russia's logistics supply chain is the railroad network. From what I understand, as soon as Russia started invading, Ukraine blew up every single rail line coming into Ukraine from Russia and Belarus. That halted the advance of the supply lines using rails, and requires using trucks to transport supplies farther. (And supposedly, Russia is lacking in trucks, and trucks are not armored, which makes them easy to disable with rifles.) Supposedly, Russia can only operate about 100 miles maximum in advance of their supply depot before they start running out of supplies.
Russia recently started camouflaging fuel trucks to look like regular supply trucks because they were being targeted so badly.
All is correct
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No, the $630 billion is supposed to be Russia's foreign currency reserves. About half of that was held in banks in other countries. That $300 billion has been frozen.
Location of Russia's $630 Billion foreign currency reserves
China 17.7% (not sanctioned)
France 15.6%
Japan 12.8%
Germany 12.2%
USA 8.5%
BIS/IMF 6.4%
UK 5.8%
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-russian-central-bank-is-running-out-of-options/ (http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-russian-central-bank-is-running-out-of-options/)
Personally, I don't think Russia will ever see that $300 billion. Or if they get it back, it will be in 50 years. Look how long we held onto money we sanctioned from Iran back in 1979. Is some still held, or did it all get given back to Iran a few years ago?
I explain to you what they have just invented a few days ago.
Every currency earned in $ or euro for any Russian citizen living in Russia should be converted into roubles for 80% of the total amount.Is it not brilliant?
:ROFL:
So you understand why more and more people want to leave. And guess who is earning in $ or euros?
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And according to google, the Ruble is currently trading at 139 rubles to the USD.
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No, the demands are because internal Russian analysis is telling them they can't win in the long term. Putin believed the Ukrainian population would capitulate, that his troops would just march in and take the country. He never expected resistance. That's why there is this "face saving" measure.
I don't think Ukraine should agree to neutrality. I think Ukraine should have good relations with Russia, but given everything that's happened since 2014, that will take at least a generation.
Russia has planted landmines in civilian escape corridors, shot fleeing civilians (women and children), dropped cluster bombs in civilian areas of Kharkiv, and lost control of at least one city they had taken. They can't go to a "greater scale" unless they are willing to lose thousands of soldiers to do so.
This is what I have also explained.
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And according to google, the Ruble is currently trading at 139 rubles to the USD.
In some Russian banks it could reach 159
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No, the $630 billion is supposed to be Russia's foreign currency reserves. About half of that was held in banks in other countries. That $300 billion has been frozen.
Location of Russia's $630 Billion foreign currency reserves
China 17.7% (not sanctioned)
France 15.6%
Japan 12.8%
Germany 12.2%
USA 8.5%
BIS/IMF 6.4%
UK 5.8%
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-russian-central-bank-is-running-out-of-options/ (http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-russian-central-bank-is-running-out-of-options/)
Personally, I don't think Russia will ever see that $300 billion. Or if they get it back, it will be in 50 years. Look how long we held onto money we sanctioned from Iran back in 1979. Is some still held, or did it all get given back to Iran a few years ago?
$300 billion, most of them could finance the reconstruction of Ukraine.
How can Russia lead winning negotiations with this money already seized, an economy that will soon collapse, and an incoming military defeat???
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Mr Armchair General, there are several flaws in your plagiarised summary.
First of all, the Russian supply lines are being severely pulverized. A whole column of fuel trucks was blown up today heading for Kyiv.
Without fuel their armour and supporting vehicles grind to a halt.
So the Russians will not take the city without a fight.
Say in the long run they overrun the defending forces and take Kyiv along with other major population centres, then we will see a long war of attrition.
The Russians will control the major cities but there will be the vast swathes of country in between over which they will have no control. Their supply lines will be vulnerable and without supplies they will be quite vulnerable.
Partisan warfare at its best.
Carry on.
Look at what is happening to Mariupol Gaunty, they've got it surrounded and are bombing it. What do you think they are going to do with Kyiv? Odds on the same, surrounded it, halt armour outside the city surrounding it and bomb the hell out of it. A large city is going to run out of food quick, the Russians can sit there all day long, everyday. Once out of food people are going to want to give up the fight, even soldiers, they will see that it is hopeless and give up. At the present the only way out of the city is south, if I were there I would go south quickly while there is still a chance.
Tommorow, Zelensky is going to address the House of Commons by video link. Apparently it is going to be yet another attempt to rope us in to intervening militarily, No Fly Zones, etc. He will probably state that Kyiv is now surrounded by Russian forces and we are Kyiv's only hope, etc, etc. I just hope to god that MP's aren't moved by the moment and lose all sense and throw us into WWIII. That is what Zelensky wants, he doesn't care about us and will be happy to see us suffering on the end of missiles also. Had the people of Ukraine gone with a experienced politician rather than a TV Actor/Comedian they might not be where they are at the moment.
To my mind Zelensky would be better of agreeing to Russia's demands and saving their citizens more pointless suffering. Better to get it over with quickly that way than see everything smashed to bits and many more lives lost. Ukraine isn't going to win this one, they're allowing their cities to becomes surrounded and choked the life out off. If Ukraine can't keep their supply lines open its pretty much it for them.
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-to-make-historic-address-to-british-mps-tomorrow-12560206
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$300 billion, most of them could finance the reconstruction of Ukraine.
How can Russia lead winning negotiations with this money already seized, an economy that will soon collapse, and an incoming military defeat???
Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
It is no certainty that Russia faces an oncoming military defeat. Yes, they have had some setbacks, but they could turn things around if they really wanted to.
The Ukrainians are already running out of food and water in some cities, like Mariupol. As soon as the Russians take control of the train lines out of Kyiv (or bomb them) the flow of supplies coming into Kyiv are going to be reduced greatly.
Keep in mind the Russians killed 4.5 million Ukrainians during the Holodomor. Loss of life will not bother them. I wouldn't put it past the Russians to start using biological or chemical weapons in Ukraine. (What do they have to lose?)
Their economy is facing some setbacks, but it won't fall apart completely as long as they can still sell oil and gas, and China remains a trading partner. The elites are still going to live large, which is all that really matters to them. I suspect they would rather see the Russian populace living in huts again like peasants before the elites will give up power.
The seized money doesn't really matter in the overall scheme of things. It has a $1.5 trillion GDP. That's 20% of GDP...2 months production. (Yes, it might hurt if 2 months salary was taken from your bank account, but you would still survive.) They sell $500 million in oil and gas every day. In less than 2 years, they can replace the $300 billion that was frozen.
Ukraine's GDP was $150 billion a year. In 2 years, it will produce $300 billion in goods and services.
If Russia subjugates Ukraine...in 10 years, will the sanctions remain? How about 20 years? Russia is in this for the long haul. Every year, there are more people on this planet. Every year, they need more oil and gas and resources that Russia has.
Do you think that Russia will end up a hermit kingdom like North Korea? The rest of the world wants their resources too much.
The real question is, how badly does Russia want Ukraine?
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No, the demands are because internal Russian analysis is telling them they can't win in the long term. Putin believed the Ukrainian population would capitulate, that his troops would just march in and take the country. He never expected resistance. That's why there is this "face saving" measure.
I don't think Ukraine should agree to neutrality. I think Ukraine should have good relations with Russia, but given everything that's happened since 2014, that will take at least a generation.
Russia has planted landmines in civilian escape corridors, shot fleeing civilians (women and children), dropped cluster bombs in civilian areas of Kharkiv, and lost control of at least one city they had taken. They can't go to a "greater scale" unless they are willing to lose thousands of soldiers to do so.
The rhetoric coming from Russian leadership doesn't indicate they are budging and will in fact go much further. It seems they are willing to shut off nord steam 1, as they state they have other buyers. They state oil will be $300 a barrel or more. It would seem they will suffer, and they will make their enemies suffer with them to the extent they can. It seems to be in their view, that there will be no bridge too far when it comes to their objectives in Ukraine.
I don't think they are going to be winning much either way for now.
Russia warns West of $300 per barrel oil, cuts to EU gas supply
Western countries could face oil prices of over $300 per barrel and the possible closure of the main Russia-Germany gas pipeline if governments follow through on threats to cut energy supplies from Russia, a senior minister said on Monday......
.....“If you want to reject energy supplies from Russia, go ahead. We are ready for it. We know where we could redirect the volumes to.”
Novak said Russia, which supplies 40 percent of Europe's gas, was fulfilling its obligations in full but that it would be entirely within its rights to retaliate against the European Union after Germany last month froze the certification of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.....
http://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/03/08/Russia-warns-West-of-300-per-barrel-oil-cuts-to-EU-gas-supply (http://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/03/08/Russia-warns-West-of-300-per-barrel-oil-cuts-to-EU-gas-supply)
Fathertime!
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Look at what is happening to Mariupol Gaunty, they've got it surrounded and are bombing it. What do you think they are going to do with Kyiv? Odds on the same, surrounded it, halt armour outside the city surrounding it and bomb the hell out of it. A large city is going to run out of food quick, the Russians can sit there all day long, everyday. Once out of food people are going to want to give up the fight, even soldiers, they will see that it is hopeless and give up. At the present the only way out of the city is south, if I were there I would go south quickly while there is still a chance.
Not everyone is a coward Trench. You might want to study history.
How long was the Battle of Stalingrad? Or the siege of Leningrad?
Sarajevo was under siege for about 4 years, with daily bombings.
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Keep in mind the Russians killed 4.5 million Ukrainians during the Holodomor. Loss of life will not bother them. I wouldn't put it past the Russians to start using biological or chemical weapons in Ukraine. (What do they have to lose?)
I don't disagree that loss of life won't bother them - look at what they did in Syria. However, it wasn't "Russians" who starved Ukrainians. It was Soviets.
The rhetoric coming from Russian leadership doesn't indicate they are budging and will in fact go much further. It seems they are willing to shut off nord steam 1, as they state they have other buyers. They state oil will be $300 a barrel or more. It would seem they will suffer, and they will make their enemies suffer with them to the extent they can. It seems to be in their view, that there will be no bridge too far when it comes to their objectives in Ukraine.
I don't think they are going to be winning much either way for now.
Russia warns West of $300 per barrel oil, cuts to EU gas supply
Western countries could face oil prices of over $300 per barrel and the possible closure of the main Russia-Germany gas pipeline if governments follow through on threats to cut energy supplies from Russia, a senior minister said on Monday......
.....“If you want to reject energy supplies from Russia, go ahead. We are ready for it. We know where we could redirect the volumes to.”
Novak said Russia, which supplies 40 percent of Europe's gas, was fulfilling its obligations in full but that it would be entirely within its rights to retaliate against the European Union after Germany last month froze the certification of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.....
http://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/03/08/Russia-warns-West-of-300-per-barrel-oil-cuts-to-EU-gas-supply (http://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/03/08/Russia-warns-West-of-300-per-barrel-oil-cuts-to-EU-gas-supply)
Fathertime!
Thanks to milder whether and liquified gas from the US, EU stocks will soon be replenished. Canada has over 563 Tcf of natural gas, and 165.4 billion barrels of oil. That's just one country.
Prices for natural gas were down $4 per gigajoule today. Oil prices may rise initially, partly because there was so little investment from the collapse in 2014 to now, but that will change quickly.
The Telegraph has a good article on this. I can share this token.
http://archive.ph/ExYGg (http://archive.ph/ExYGg)
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I don't disagree that loss of life won't bother them - look at what they did in Syria. However, it wasn't "Russians" who starved Ukrainians. It was Soviets.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. For all intents and purposes, I consider Russians and Soviets to be basically the same thing. (Russia assumed the position of the Soviets in the UN. Same people. Same mentality. They just rebranded themselves with a different name.) It's like arguing the difference between hogs and pigs.
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The media is reporting that the Ukrainians killed another Russian general near Kharkiv. Major General Vitaly Gerasimov.
Tomorrow is Women's Day. And Russia will have to break it to his mother and wife that he got killed.
With tomorrow being Women's Day, I wonder how much backlash and public outcry there will be in Russia for the women who get killed in Ukraine on Woman's Day. That's a heck of a Woman's Day gift from Russia...killing Ukrainian women.
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http://youtu.be/_WGcfkqzUI4
http://youtu.be/b4wRdoWpw0w
It would seem most of Russia's "shock & awe" turned out to be " aw shucks.....we better attack apt. buildings, women, and children"
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http://youtu.be/Hob1nbP_UKM
NATO allies have plenty of surface-to-air (sam) weapons to furnish Ukraine and possibly Moldova if they want. (using a lend-lease program simalar to what was used in WW2) Such an action would probably keep Russian pilots shaking in thier panties on Ukrainian missions.
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IIRC fighters would be classified as offensive weapons. AFAIK, most if not all weapons provided to UA are defensive.
It would be defensive if it doesn't fly into enemy space.
However... who would fly this aircraft? Ukrainian military pilots could fly MIGs, but few [I imagine] can operate western fighters.
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Once out of food people are going to want to give up the fight.... the Russians can sit there all day long, everyday.
The Russians have to eat too don't they? Let's hope they get hungry and go home.
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I don't disagree that loss of life won't bother them - look at what they did in Syria. However, it wasn't "Russians" who starved Ukrainians. It was Soviets.
Thanks to milder whether and liquified gas from the US, EU stocks will soon be replenished. Canada has over 563 Tcf of natural gas, and 165.4 billion barrels of oil. That's just one country.
Prices for natural gas were down $4 per gigajoule today. Oil prices may rise initially, partly because there was so little investment from the collapse in 2014 to now, but that will change quickly.
The Telegraph has a good article on this. I can share this token.
http://archive.ph/ExYGg (http://archive.ph/ExYGg)
I read it, wow that's huge. :P
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Shell has announced it's no longer buying Oil or Gas from Russia and is closing all it's petrol stations in Russia.
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No Russian oil here in the states is going to raise prices on everything. We shall see what the public thinks of all of this once all the price increases start to take hold. I think it is going to upset the entire economy.
There are some whispers already about 'secondary sanctions'. Sanctions on nations that decide to buy Russian oil. We (The US) should not be able to cause suffering & dictate who other nations buy oil from; it isn't our choice. I don't think the rest of the world will listen. Venezuela, and Iran are large oil producers subjected to US hegemony. We can start drilling for our own oil once again, if we can find the wherewithal to do that.
Looking at Russia's current demands, if that is what they were bringing to the table before the battle began, they weren't entirely unreasonable, especially given the potential worldwide consequence. If you look at people across the globe (Not just Europe and US) there is a luke warm reaction to this event. Because of that, I don't think we will be able to 'choke Russia out'.
Oil gains on expectations U.S. will ban Russian crude imports
.....Oil prices rose on Tuesday, with Brent surging past $129 a barrel on expectations that the United States will announce a formal ban on Russian oil imports, stoking supply concerns.....
....."Assuming the U.S. does not impose any secondary sanctions, thereby forcing other countries likewise to halt their Russian oil imports, we believe that the impact of any unilateral U.S. move would be limited," Commerzbank analyst Carsten Fritsch said.....
http://www.reuters.com/business/oil-see-saws-near-14-yr-highs-us-weighs-russia-oil-embargo-2022-03-08/ (http://www.reuters.com/business/oil-see-saws-near-14-yr-highs-us-weighs-russia-oil-embargo-2022-03-08/)
Fathertime!
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Oil AND Gas imports from Russia now banned by the USA.
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Saw on news last night a discussion between Kurt Volker and a retired General who had previously been head of NATO forces.
Kurt said from a purely humanitarian viewpoint we must establish the No-Fly zone. He said we would make it clear that western planes would not attack Russian planes unless first attacked, and would not attack Russian forces on the ground unless first attacked.
Kurt said after the German massacres of civilians in WW2, we (the west) said it would never be allowed to repeat.
The General made the standard argument that the result of the No-Fly zone would be to widen the war to other countries.
But Kurt countered that, if Putin gets his way in Ukraine, he will later expand the war to other countries anyway. First maybe to non-NATO countries like Moldova and Finland.
I was not able to see the interview with General McMaster, who also is a proponent of the No-Fly zone, as I didn't agree to the cookie request.
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ML,
One issue is that UA fighters may shoot down the wrong planes, or get blamed if RU soldiers do.
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Saw on news last night a discussion between Kurt Volker and a retired General who had previously been head of NATO forces.
Kurt said from a purely humanitarian viewpoint we must establish the No-Fly zone. He said we would make it clear that western planes would not attack Russian planes unless first attacked, and would not attack Russian forces on the ground unless first attacked.
Kurt said after the German massacres of civilians in WW2, we (the west) said it would never be allowed to repeat.
The General made the standard argument that the result of the No-Fly zone would be to widen the war to other countries.
But Kurt countered that, if Putin gets his way in Ukraine, he will later expand the war to other countries anyway. First maybe to non-NATO countries like Moldova and Finland.
I was not able to see the interview with General McMaster, who also is a proponent of the No-Fly zone, as I didn't agree to the cookie request.
I saw the interview General McMaster did with Sky News and posted about it in post 984 in this very thread.
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Kurt said after the German massacres of civilians in WW2, we (the west) said it would never be allowed to repeat.
On CNN yesterday, I read those 400 civilians had been killed. People here are stating that Russia is bombing apartment buildings (Presumably loaded with harmless civilians) and shooting people exiting through humanitarian corridors. It would seem that something is either off with the numbers either from CNN or by accounts I read. Given the vast operation, 400 dead isn't as much as I would have expected. 2 million people have already exited Ukraine, and at the rate of the flow it won't be long before most everybody that wants to leave will have left. It would seem that may be one of Russia's goals.
Normally I would say a No Fly Zone is a bridge way too far for the US to take but given the lengths the US has already taken I wouldn't be so sure it isn't a serious consideration now. While that may be a bluff, the US may be thinking of getting into Russian heads with this posturing (To Bring Russia to the Bargaining Table in a slightly weaker position) I think a no-fly zone would be a Russian red line that one crossed will escalate the crisis into something much larger.
Fathertime!
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ML,
One issue is that UA fighters may shoot down the wrong planes, or get blamed if RU soldiers do.
Of course. And we can be sure that even if Russia shoots down the planes, they will deny and lie as is their norm.
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I saw the interview General McMaster did with Sky News and posted about it in post 984 in this very thread.
Yes, I saw your post, so thanks for that.
However, as I said, I wasn't able to view as I refused to agree to the cookie request. That is my standard procedure.
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I think a no-fly zone would be a Russian red line that one crossed will escalate the crisis into something much larger.
Of course, and I already spoke to that issue by telling the words and reasoning of Kurt Volker.
So best to not just keep repeating this refrain (escalate) and instead address the logic stated by Kurt.
i.e. But Kurt countered that, if Putin gets his way in Ukraine, he will later expand the war to other countries anyway. First maybe to non-NATO countries like Moldova and Finland.
I posted earlier that after Ukraine is sacrificed, then the west will come to the aid of Finland with direct military offensive involvement when Russia attacks.
It will take several generations before the western guilt over that will be absolved.
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i.e. But Kurt countered that, if Putin gets his way in Ukraine, he will later expand the war to other countries anyway. First maybe to non-NATO countries like Moldova and Finland.
I posted earlier that after Ukraine is sacrificed, then the west will come to the aid of Finland with direct military offensive involvement when Russia attacks.
Why would Russia decide to try take more territory after this costly mess...? But to be sure, there should be serious armed forces on all the other bordering countries. Russia could make arguments regarding Ukraine, but none of those justifications would ring correct for a nation like Finland. I think at that point the rest of the world would turn and see that as unjust and all of humanity would turn against Russia, probably even the Russians themselves.
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Poland has agreed to exchange their MIG 29's for fighter jets from the USA.
The Polish MIG 29's are going to a US Air base in Germany,presumably for the Ukrainian pilots to fly them to Ukraine from there.
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Poland has agreed to exchange their MIG 29's for fighter jets from the USA.
The Polish MIG 29's are going to a US Air base in Germany,presumably for the Ukrainian pilots to fly them to Ukraine from there.
A significant move. The Ukrainian Air Force had about 37 MiG-29's in active duty when the unprovoked attack began. Last count of Polish MiG-29's was 21 (or 23, depending on the source). Ukraine also flies about 60 Sukhoi attack aircraft. The addition of 20 new attack aircraft will add significant capability even though the 29's are Soviet-era dating back to the USSR. The basing decisions are interesting as well. Poland to Germany to Ukraine would mean that Russia will be faced with having to blame Poland for supplying the jets, Germany for hosting the transfer, and of course, the US for agreeing to backfill Poland with newer F-16's.
The greatest danger, IMO, is whether Putin becomes so unhinged he escalates into nukes. It's difficult to see Russia using tactical nukes in Ukraine. The theater offers no advantage by using nukes and the world reaction once that line is crossed will be overwhelming.
The ancient Chinese curse is upon us. We do indeed live in interesting times.
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Interesting sidebar on the MiG-29 transfer from Poland to US to Ukraine. Poland urged all other NATO countries flying MiG-29s to provide them for Ukraine's use. Zelenskyy said in a press conference a few days ago they knew which countries have the aircraft and have reached out to all of them. It's difficult to get an exact count since some of them may be in mothballs but able to be returned to active flight quite quickly. Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria may all have suitable aircraft.
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Interesting sidebar on the MiG-29 transfer from Poland to US to Ukraine. Poland urged all other NATO countries flying MiG-29s to provide them for Ukraine's use. Zelenskyy said in a press conference a few days ago they knew which countries have the aircraft and have reached out to all of them. It's difficult to get an exact count since some of them may be in mothballs but able to be returned to active flight quite quickly. Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria may all have suitable aircraft.
I heard the number of 70 available aircrafts (MIG29 & SU25/SU27) is in service in the surrounding countrys
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The basing decisions are interesting as well. Poland to Germany to Ukraine would mean that Russia will be faced with having to blame Poland for supplying the jets, Germany for hosting the transfer, and of course, the US for agreeing to backfill Poland with newer F-16's.
Germany isn't hosting the transfer. The only thing Germany is doing is allowing the jets to fly over their country. The jets come from Poland, and are given to the US at the Ramstein US Air Base. (Technically, that's US soil, not German.) Then, the Ukrainian pilots fly the jets from the US Ramstein air base back to Ukraine.
Poland is just handing over the planes to the US government for the US to dispose of, so Russia can't say they gave jets to Ukraine.
It's happening at the US Air Base, so technically Germany isn't involved in hosting the transfer.
All the liability for giving the Mig-29's to the Ukrainians is on the US.
http://news.yahoo.com/poland-ready-place-mig-29-191348949.html
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A significant move. The Ukrainian Air Force had about 37 MiG-29's in active duty when the unprovoked attack began. Last count of Polish MiG-29's was 21 (or 23, depending on the source). Ukraine also flies about 60 Sukhoi attack aircraft. The addition of 20 new attack aircraft will add significant capability even though the 29's are Soviet-era dating back to the USSR. The basing decisions are interesting as well. Poland to Germany to Ukraine would mean that Russia will be faced with having to blame Poland for supplying the jets, Germany for hosting the transfer, and of course, the US for agreeing to backfill Poland with newer F-16's.
The greatest danger, IMO, is whether Putin becomes so unhinged he escalates into nukes. It's difficult to see Russia using tactical nukes in Ukraine. The theater offers no advantage by using nukes and the world reaction once that line is crossed will be overwhelming.
The ancient Chinese curse is upon us. We do indeed live in interesting times.
This is why NATO forces shouldn't cross the border, no-fly zone should be set up.
Zelenski is constantly pushing all other countries to be militarily involved in the struggle. He has spent his time talking about integratingNATO and EU.
IMHO it's a big political mistake, you cannot push the bear in the corner every second. He could nuke bite you.
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The greatest danger, IMO, is whether Putin becomes so unhinged he escalates into nukes. It's difficult to see Russia using tactical nukes in Ukraine.
It's not Putin who is at risk of becoming unhinged, it is Western leaders who are already unhinged.
Russia has superior missile technology, both defensive (S-500 systems) and offensive (operational hypersonic missiles, including launch at sea and obviously nuclear capability). De-escalation and diplomacy should be the priority. Zelensky has already changed his tune, things probably aren't going as well as reported in the West.
http://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220308-in-nod-to-russia-ukraine-says-no-longer-insisting-on-nato-membership?ref=tw
This is why NATO forces shouldn't cross the border, no-fly zone should be set up.
Zelenski is constantly pushing all other countries to be militarily involved in the struggle. He has spent his time talking about integratingNATO and EU.
IMHO it's a big political mistake, you cannot push the bear in the corner every second. He could nuke bite you.
A "no fly zone" is aerial combat. It's entry into the conflict. The EU/NATO are nuts. They are facing self-inflicted economic collapse and potential hot war escalating into nuclear war. An embargo is a bellicose act, if not an act of war.
The USA is effectively killing the petrodollar. Madness. Saudis told Biden to sod off when asked to pump more oil. Now the administration is begging to Maduro and trying to cut a deal with Iran. All the while Russia's loss of volume of sales will be offset somewhat by increased margin due to skyrocketing prices. China, India and others will continue to buy oil from Russia. Absolute cluster fuck.
China will probably enter a recession but will be the big beneficiary of all of this. The USA's influence in the world will wane. Europe is done. And still the specter of nuclear war remains.
Good buying opportunities in Russia IMO if you're willing to live with capital controls. USD/RUB went from 74 to 141 (now at 128). Russian stocks hammered, commodity producers are still required. Unsure if real estate prices have increased in RUB yet. Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan are reportedly scooping up bargains and the Chinese are looking to do the same.
Russian citizens are already feeling the pain. Those in the West will too soon enough.
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Those on here stating that Putin/Russia will invade Finland I believe are mistaken, just look at this map:
http://maproom.net/shop/eu-map/
While Finland isn't a member of NATO it is a member of the EU, so is Sweden. So the EU policy of an attack on one member state by an outside force is deemed an attack on all member states comes into play. That means Russia has potentially every army in the EU on their case plus France has Nukes. The EU will have no choice but to bring all the armies of its member states to bear in a defensive mission against Russian aggression.
Now while Finland isn't a member of NATO, many other members of the EU are and they will likely petition NATO to get involved, particularly the NATO members in Eastern Europe. That means both the UK & US etc getting involved as well, both with Nukes also.
So Russia basically isn't going to attack Finland, Finland in any case now have time to improve its military while Russia gets run down attacking Ukraine. Russia will most likely attack Georgia next, it's an easy target for them and like Ukraine has disputed territory to use as an excuse for an attack. After that Putin may go after incorporating the Stand more into Russia, there quite a lot of land there to keep him busy. Dealing with all of that will likely take many years and a lot of Putin's attention. Putin is an old man now so he's only got so many years left. All the while of course sanctions running the Russian economy down. So I very much doubt Russia will take on NATO. After all what this escapade ha shown is that Russia are having difficulties with a nation with military like Ukraine. Against EU/NATO it would be a unwinnable battle for Russia fullstop, not to say EU/NATO would win either it would basically be blasting each other in mass destruction for no gain.
Many hawks out there unfortunately trying to talk countries into war with the argument that we would be next. They are so desperate to satisfy their appetite for war that they don't realise what they are suggesting is playing with fire. They are idiots arguing that we should basically take a gamble and back up Ukraine militarily and hope they don't fire Nukes at some point and we both end up in MAD. They are happy that we get dragged into a war with Russia any which possible way, by no fly zones, direct military intervention whatever they can think off. We need to keep ignoring these over zealous idiots in the west and keep the hell out of it. If Russia win, which I think they will, then they are left with the problem of what to do with Ukraine, whatever they do I can't see them doing well out of Ukraine. I say leave them to tread on their own feet, that she the bes to long term fix to this conflict I believe. Sanctions are doing a great job and I think that is the way ahead for us getting some leverage over this situation.
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Apparently a cold snap on the way starting later today it seems, could help Ukrainians though possibly all and everyone may suffer out there:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-kyiv-convoy-putin-1685806
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10588875/Ukraine-war-Russian-advance-slows-significantly-children-hurt-strikes.html
Ukrainians digging in, in and around Kyiv:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60671329
A real sense that it's all reaching a climax now.
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It's Putin who is unhinged,
Russia has superior missile technology, both defensive (S-500 systems) and offensive (operational hypersonic missiles, including launch at sea and obviously nuclear capability). De-escalation and diplomacy should be the priority. Zelensky has already changed his tune, things probably aren't going as well as reported in the West.
http://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220308-in-nod-to-russia-ukraine-says-no-longer-insisting-on-nato-membership?ref=tw (http://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220308-in-nod-to-russia-ukraine-says-no-longer-insisting-on-nato-membership?ref=tw)
A "no fly zone" is aerial combat. It's entry into the conflict. Russia is nuts. They are facing self-inflicted economic collapse and potential hot war escalating into nuclear war.
The USA is effectively killing the petrodollar. Madness. Saudis told Biden to sod off when asked to pump more oil. Now the administration is begging to Maduro and trying to cut a deal with Iran. All the while Russia's loss of volume of sales will be offset somewhat by increased margin due to skyrocketing prices. China, India and others will continue to buy oil from Russia. Absolute cluster fuck.
China will probably enter a recession but will be the big beneficiary of all of this. The USA's influence in the world will wane. Europe is done. And still the specter of nuclear war remains.
Good buying opportunities in Russia IMO if you're willing to live with capital controls. USD/RUB went from 74 to 141 (now at 128). Russian stocks hammered, commodity producers are still required. Unsure if real estate prices have increased in RUB yet. Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan are reportedly scooping up bargains and the Chinese are looking to do the same.
Russian citizens are already feeling the pain. Those in the West will too soon enough.
There..fixed that for you.
Last time i looked it was Russia who invaded Ukraine and started a war.
By the way USA...UK...France have Nukes too..
If the unhinged despot Mad Vlad starts a Nuclear war he's pressing a self-destruct button.
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General Magomed Tushaev died when his Chechen special forces column was obliterated near Hostomel, north-east of the city.
Warlord Vladimir Zhonga is also among the dead. Zhonga led the Sparta Battalion, a Neo-Nazi military unit that boasted the backing of the Kremlin.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/nine-russian-generals-killed-war-26417757 8 March 2022
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There..fixed that for you.
Last time i looked it was Russia who invaded Ukraine and started a war.
By the way USA...UK...France have Nukes too..
If the unhinged despot Mad Vlad starts a Nuclear war he's pressing a self-destruct button.
Reality check.
This conflict is an escalation of a civil war largely stemming from a US-backed coup in Ukraine eight years ago. Prior to recent events there were 13,000+ civilian deaths and millions of refugees.
Ukraine was de facto turning into a NATO member, wanted NATO membership, made comments about acquiring nuclear weapons, and has official government policy of taking Crimea by force. In addition, the US and UK have both provoked Russia by nearing or entering their territorial waters last year. This conflict wasn't 'unprovoked'.
Russia has hypersonic weapons that are unstoppable by current western defensive systems. Russia has the world's best defensive missile systems. Their older S-300 system proved to be effective in Syria: http://thesaker.is/u-s-u-k-france-conduct-massive-missile-strike-on-syria-details/
If Russia is pushed hard enough it may let the nukes fly. Not because Putin is unhinged but because the balance of probabilities heavily favors striking western countries given that it has been backed into a corner. De-escalation is absolutely necessary ASAP.
The Russian government's actions are certainly questionable but also rational.
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While Finland isn't a member of NATO it is a member of the EU, so is Sweden. So the EU policy of an attack on one member state by an outside force is deemed an attack on all member states comes into play. That means Russia has potentially every army in the EU on their case plus France has Nukes. The EU will have no choice but to bring all the armies of its member states to bear in a defensive mission against Russian aggression.
Now while Finland isn't a member of NATO, many other members of the EU are and they will likely petition NATO to get involved, particularly the NATO members in Eastern Europe. That means both the UK & US etc getting involved as well, both with Nukes also.
Your assessment is deeply flawed. For starters, the EU is a joke. It's a political and economic alliance. The military defense alliance is a joke.
Only 2 countries in the EU have power projection capabilities. Italy and France, and Italy is a financial basketcase still. France is the only country in the EU with nukes. Italy can't afford to go to war, and it's questionable if France could afford much of a war. What you really have are a bunch of cheerleader countries who are threatening to defend all the other cheerleaders with their pom poms.
NATO is the real military defense alliance, and that is because of the USA. Without the USA, NATO would be toothless like the EU.
After all what this escapade ha shown is that Russia are having difficulties with a nation with military like Ukraine. Against EU/NATO it would be a unwinnable battle for Russia fullstop, not to say EU/NATO would win either it would basically be blasting each other in mass destruction for no gain.
It is not Ukraine's military that is causing them the most problems. It is their own logistics problems. Russian logistics are based upon railroad supply. They have a hard time advancing more than 100 miles in front of their supply depot.
Attacking Finland would not trigger NATO involvement. (NATO countries might sanction, but it is doubtful NATO would get involved, just like NATO isn't getting involved now in Ukraine.) It would trigger EU defense, but Russia could quickly take a good portion of the country before the EU military could mobilize. If/when the EU did mobilize, then Russia could agree to a ceasefire, at which time they would get to keep the ground they had already taken.
So the real question is, how much ground could Russia gain before the EU military alliance could mobilize? How much blood and treasure will they lose int he operation? How much in sanctions would they have to pay? That is the calculation they have to compute.
In the case of Ukraine, they thought they could do a blitzkreig on the eastern and southern parts of the country. They thought Ukraine would capitulate and they could take the vast part of the country before anyone knew what happened. If any of Ukraine remained, it would be a small, weak, landlocked area in the west of Ukraine, and Lviv would likely be the new capital. (Supposedly, Russia had offered to split Ukraine with Poland a few years ago.)
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The last time they false flagged
and attacked Finland dint go so well.
All appearances now point to similar outcome if they trued again.
Russia has the shear numbers to obliterate Ukraine.
That's not what they want.
However playing this current ground game may cost them a lot more thsn they planed to pay for their objective.
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Reality check.
This conflict is an escalation of a civil war largely stemming from a US-backed coup in Ukraine eight years ago. Prior to recent events there were 13,000+ civilian deaths and millions of refugees.
Ukraine was de facto turning into a NATO member, wanted NATO membership, made comments about acquiring nuclear weapons, and has official government policy of taking Crimea by force. In addition, the US and UK have both provoked Russia by nearing or entering their territorial waters last year. This conflict wasn't 'unprovoked'.
Russia has hypersonic weapons that are unstoppable by current western defensive systems. Russia has the world's best defensive missile systems. Their older S-300 system proved to be effective in Syria: http://thesaker.is/u-s-u-k-france-conduct-massive-missile-strike-on-syria-details/ (http://thesaker.is/u-s-u-k-france-conduct-massive-missile-strike-on-syria-details/)
If Russia is pushed hard enough it may let the nukes fly. Not because Putin is unhinged but because the balance of probabilities heavily favors striking western countries given that it has been backed into a corner. De-escalation is absolutely necessary ASAP.
The Russian government's actions are certainly questionable but also rational.
Oh, please. There was no "US backed coup" in Ukraine. The US came into Ukraine very late in the game in 2014.
The protests against Yanukovych started because he refused to sign an association agreement with the EU - something a majority of Ukrainians, particularly young Ukrainians, wanted. They see their future as westward, not eastward looking, thanks to the Putin kleptocracy. The Putinistas just showed Ukraine what their future would be if they turned eastward - the same corruption absent human rights and democracy.
Ukraine was not turning into a de facto NATO member. NATO membership was never on the table, and I doubt strongly that NATO was an issue in this invasion. This was about democracy, and a longing for a totalitarian past that can't be recreated, not NATO. If Russia has any espionage capabilities, it knows NATO membership was never going to happen.
As for oil, Russia currently supplies about 7% of the world's oil. Oil is at low capacity right now thanks to the collapse in 2014 and low supplies since - both market forces and COVID. That meant that as COVID died down, capacity needed to increase to levels not seen in over half a decade, so supplies were already tight. In the very short term, prices will increase, but overall, whether Iran and Venezuela come in line or not, oil prices will come down.
Russia can't replace EU markets easily. There is only so much oil China needs, and getting Russian oil to India is difficult. Refiners there are already asking that both Russian and Kazakh oil be sold on a delivered basis, as refiners are having trouble finding financing, insurance, and tankers.
As for buying Russian stock - sure, do so for a long term hold. I don't think sanctions will go away quickly. Morally, it's also akin to trading with Germany in October 1939 and beyond.
How, exactly, was Russia backed into a corner? It wasn't forced to invade a sovereign nation to reestablish a "ruski mir". It was in no mortal danger from Ukraine, militarily or economically. By the time political ideas had any effect within Russia, Putin and his geriatric cabinet would have been long dead, or subsisting on toothless foods like kasha.
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Oh, and the Saudis have not said no. They just want a number of outrageous (IMHO) preconditions met before they will come to the table.
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It's not Putin who is at risk of becoming unhinged, it is Western leaders who are already unhinged.
Russia's dick was already in the dirt, and now we *The US* have go ahead and kick ourselves in the balls as well. Within 1 month we will start to feel it here in the states. Gasoline prices have changed everybody's attitude I come across. Taking the earlier measures, we did was ok, but suddenly banning Russian oil, talk of no fly zones, trying to use NATO countries to help backdoor get involved are all bad moves...Seems clear now, Russia will take Ukraine regardless of the cost, it is only a question of how much destruction, and death at the expense of Ukraine it will take.
If Russia is pushed hard enough it may let the nukes fly. Not because Putin is unhinged but because the balance of probabilities heavily favors striking western countries given that it has been backed into a corner. De-escalation is absolutely necessary ASAP.
Some people have tried to chastise me for bringing up Nuclear weapons last week. Pretending as though it isn't a real Russian option isn't going to change the reality that it is. The ugly event of war in the age of nuclear weapons isn't to rub snouts in the dirt. Always leave outs for nations like Russia, China, and USA. In this case we are close to breaking the unwritten rules. Russia has made an aggressive move and are paying dearly for it. Leaving it at that is the best we will be able to do.
Zelensky has already changed his tune, things probably aren't going as well as reported in the West.
Earlier today Zelensky sounded like he was ready to go down with the ship. With that attitude, Russia will try to make that happen. Look at happened to Khadaffy, or Saddam Hussein, when the US was involved. Tried it with Assad for months but failed on that one .
The USA is effectively killing the petrodollar. Madness. Saudis told Biden to sod off when asked to pump more oil. Now the administration is begging to Maduro and trying to cut a deal with Iran. All the while Russia's loss of volume of sales will be offset somewhat by increased margin due to skyrocketing prices. China, India and others will continue to buy oil from Russia. Absolute cluster fuck.
Unreal regarding the petrodollar. Our way of life is in rather immediate jeopardy. With our history, Iran, Venezuela, China India, nobody is going to try to soften the blow. We are sticking our neck out there a bit for sure.
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Your assessment is deeply flawed. For starters, the EU is a joke. It's a political and economic alliance. The military defense alliance is a joke.
Only 2 countries in the EU have power projection capabilities. Italy and France, and Italy is a financial basketcase still. France is the only country in the EU with nukes. Italy can't afford to go to war, and it's questionable if France could afford much of a war. What you really have are a bunch of cheerleader countries who are threatening to defend all the other cheerleaders with their pom poms.
NATO is the real military defense alliance, and that is because of the USA. Without the USA, NATO would be toothless like the EU.
It is not Ukraine's military that is causing them the most problems. It is their own logistics problems. Russian logistics are based upon railroad supply. They have a hard time advancing more than 100 miles in front of their supply depot.
Attacking Finland would not trigger NATO involvement. (NATO countries might sanction, but it is doubtful NATO would get involved, just like NATO isn't getting involved now in Ukraine.) It would trigger EU defense, but Russia could quickly take a good portion of the country before the EU military could mobilize. If/when the EU did mobilize, then Russia could agree to a ceasefire, at which time they would get to keep the ground they had already taken.
So the real question is, how much ground could Russia gain before the EU military alliance could mobilize? How much blood and treasure will they lose int he operation? How much in sanctions would they have to pay? That is the calculation they have to compute.
In the case of Ukraine, they thought they could do a blitzkreig on the eastern and southern parts of the country. They thought Ukraine would capitulate and they could take the vast part of the country before anyone knew what happened. If any of Ukraine remained, it would be a small, weak, landlocked area in the west of Ukraine, and Lviv would likely be the new capital. (Supposedly, Russia had offered to split Ukraine with Poland a few years ago.)
Bee Farmer, not living anywhere near the EU means that your not aware how things work there, what you say is ludicrous. It is well known I'm not the biggest fan of the EU but even the EU are useless as they are sometimes has some degree of organisation and mobilising power. In the virus pandemic though they ended up coming off second best to the quick response of the UK they did at least get to a response through slower than was helpful in the situation.
Fundamentally the EU cannot let an attack by an outside force on one of its members go unchallenged. It would threaten it's very existence and cause meant members to question being a part of it. They would have to organise a military response. They would not agree to any cease fire that would give away any territory the EU is way too pig headed for that, it took the UK many years to negotiate Brexit due to the EU's obstinacy. Once you understand the EU bureaucracy, attitude, etc then you will understand how they work and what to expect in any given situation, maybe not 100 percent but near enough in most cases.
Now Poland and many of the other East European states bordering Ukraine and Russia are NATO members. If Finland wax invaded they would be keen to call upon NATO as they are next in the row of countries down from Finland that might face invasion. France already has Nukes and is a NATO member also so whether just the EU or EU and NATO Nukes would be on the table either way. There is no certainty of NATO involvement but it's highly likely as a NATO member with Nukes, France would already be involved due to it being an EU member.
Within the EU France is likely the strongest military but it's bureaucratic (where the EU gets it from) and so that can sometimes hinder effectiveness, ability to move quickly and decisively. Italy and Spain are private decent enough armies. The real sleeping giant is Germany, they could be big and really bolster Europe's defence but it still hasn't got over its WWII hang up's and till date hasn't wanted to get too involved with creating a strong army again. It's really what the EU needs to really have a very effective component to the armies it may field. The rest, the Eastern Bloc armies are likely ok but could do with sone upgrading. They will have a fair amount of troops to bring to bear so in numbers will at least help on that front. Cumulatively there is enough defence jointly within the EU for Russia but to want to risk blunting their military and suffer total defeat by declaring war in EU members for no good reason like it has in Ukraine.
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Those who don't understand that cookies and other tracking devices can lead to harm are very naive.
Maybe I'm not clear on what these little cookies can do, but on popular news sites what harm are they going to cause me...
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Ukraine was not turning into a de facto NATO member. NATO membership was never on the table, and I doubt strongly that NATO was an issue in this invasion.
I agree. Russia (Kaliningrad) is already surrounded by NATO. (Poland and Lithuania.) Latvia is NATO, and borders Russia. As far as I know, there are no nukes stationed in Poland, Lithuania, or Latvia.
Have you ever seen someone who had to sell off part of the family farm? And afterwards, they are full of bitterness and resentment? In their mind, that sold part still "belongs" to them. It is an injustice that someone else controls that land now. That is what Putin reminds me of.
I was in Ukraine in October 2013 for a beekeeping conference. I didn't hear anyone wax nostalgia for the Soviet era. Everyone was excited at the prospect of the European agreement. They believed it would open up trade so they could make more money, and they believed it would help reduce corruption in Ukraine. (Granted, I didn't visit the Eastern part of the country. I spent time in Odessa, Kyiv, Zhytomir, Bila Tserkva, etc.)
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It is well known I'm not the biggest fan of the EU but even the EU are useless as they are sometimes has some degree of organisation and mobilising power. In the virus pandemic though they ended up coming off second best to the quick response of the UK they did at least get to a response through slower than was helpful in the situation.
Fundamentally the EU cannot let an attack by an outside force on one of its members go unchallenged. It would threaten it's very existence and cause meant members to question being a part of it. They would have to organise a military response. They would not agree to any cease fire that would give away any territory the EU is way too pig headed for that, it took the UK many years to negotiate Brexit due to the EU's obstinacy. Once you understand the EU bureaucracy, attitude, etc then you will understand how they work and what to expect in any given situation, maybe not 100 percent but near enough in most cases.
Once again, the EU is a joke as a military alliance. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Words on paper don't stop bombs and bullets. It's easy to promise to defend another country - actually producing military equipment and men is a different story.
You say the EU would organize a military response if a EU member were attacked. What are they doing to use to organize a military response? What are they going to do, pick up sticks to fight with? They can't even meet their minimum obligations under NATO. (Trump threatened to pull out of NATO because the other NATO members didn't want to pay for a military, and just wanted the US to be their military protection and pay for everything.) How are they going to organize a military response for the EU?
In theory, all members are supposed to organize to defend anyone else. But let me explain how it works in reality. Every individual country says, "I don't need a military anymore. Everyone else will protect me. I will have the smallest possible military...just enough for appearance purposes. I don't want to spend any money on a military." What you end up with is a group of countries that have minimal military capability. Everyone in the EU expects everyone else to save them if they are attacked.
Germany is supposed to be the economic powerhouse of Europe. They should be able to afford quality weaponry. They finally donated some anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine. They were Soviet era missiles that had been in storage so long that 1/3 were corroded so badly they were unusable, and it is uncertain if any of the others are usable. What does the rest of their equipment look like?
Do you think Putin and the Kremlin doesn't know this? They are opportunistic, and want to try taking advantage of any situation if they can.
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Oh, please. There was no "US backed coup" in Ukraine. The US came into Ukraine very late in the game in 2014.
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How, exactly, was Russia backed into a corner? It wasn't forced to invade a sovereign nation to reestablish a "ruski mir". It was in no mortal danger from Ukraine, militarily or economically. By the time political ideas had any effect within Russia, Putin and his geriatric cabinet would have been long dead, or subsisting on toothless foods like kasha.
The US was involved and has remained involved. Ukraine has been supplied and trained by NATO (USA). That's not to justify Russia's actions but one can't honestly turn a blind eye either. I didn't say Russia was backed into a corner, I said if it is backed into a corner.
Russia's share of world oil sales is slightly higher than that, and it's naive to think supplies can be ramped up in a hurry. There's talk of multi-year incremental sanctions. That's absolutely going to split the world in two. The west will lose out.
But it's more than hydrocarbons. Nickel, uranium, titanium, gold, copper, aluminum and other hard commodities will be impacted severely. A large percentage of fertilizer is exported from Belarus (25% from memory). Ukraine and Russia account for almost a third of global wheat production. What's going to happen to the harvest this year?
Countries like Egypt, Turkey and Indonesia face the real risk of civil unrest due to rising food prices. Everything is going to get a lot more expensive and supply chains are going to break down. Global food insecurity is a big worry - including in western countries.
This is arguably more dangerous than any time during the Cold War. Russia has superior missile technology. Poland offering planes is insane (seems like the Pentagon are not so crazy). Do you think Russia will sit by and do nothing? If it does, do you think it wouldn't consider a nuclear strike?
Ukraine is collateral damage between USA and Russia. Dragging the whole world down with it IMO is not a very intelligent idea. As catastrophic as events are in Ukraine I am gravely concerned for the state of world affairs. This is a regional conflict that is now global and spiraling out of control. The lack of diplomacy is astounding.
A commodity producer like Canada may fare better than others, but the west is kaput. The EU is a disaster that will collapse in as spectacular fashion as the USSR.
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The US was involved and has remained involved. Ukraine has been supplied and trained by NATO (USA). That's not to justify Russia's actions but one can't honestly turn a blind eye either. I didn't say Russia was backed into a corner, I said if it is backed into a corner.
Russia's share of world oil sales is slightly higher than that, and it's naive to think supplies can be ramped up in a hurry. There's talk of multi-year incremental sanctions. That's absolutely going to split the world in two. The west will lose out.
But it's more than hydrocarbons. Nickel, uranium, titanium, gold, copper, aluminum and other hard commodities will be impacted severely. A large percentage of fertilizer is exported from Belarus (25% from memory). Ukraine and Russia account for almost a third of global wheat production. What's going to happen to the harvest this year?
Countries like Egypt, Turkey and Indonesia face the real risk of civil unrest due to rising food prices. Everything is going to get a lot more expensive and supply chains are going to break down. Global food insecurity is a big worry - including in western countries.
This is arguably more dangerous than any time during the Cold War. Russia has superior missile technology. Poland offering planes is insane (seems like the Pentagon are not so crazy). Do you think Russia will sit by and do nothing? If it does, do you think it wouldn't consider a nuclear strike?
Ukraine is collateral damage between USA and Russia. Dragging the whole world down with it IMO is not a very intelligent idea. As catastrophic as events are in Ukraine I am gravely concerned for the state of world affairs. This is a regional conflict that is now global and spiraling out of control. The lack of diplomacy is astounding.
A commodity producer like Canada may fare better than others, but the west is kaput. The EU is a disaster that will collapse in as spectacular fashion as the USSR.
There’s a reason why you’re not at the table of international diplomacy. ☝🏻
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I agree. Russia (Kaliningrad) is already surrounded by NATO. (Poland and Lithuania.) Latvia is NATO, and borders Russia. As far as I know, there are no nukes stationed in Poland, Lithuania, or Latvia.
Have you ever seen someone who had to sell off part of the family farm? And afterwards, they are full of bitterness and resentment? In their mind, that sold part still "belongs" to them. It is an injustice that someone else controls that land now. That is what Putin reminds me of.
I was in Ukraine in October 2013 for a beekeeping conference. I didn't hear anyone wax nostalgia for the Soviet era. Everyone was excited at the prospect of the European agreement. They believed it would open up trade so they could make more money, and they believed it would help reduce corruption in Ukraine. (Granted, I didn't visit the Eastern part of the country. I spent time in Odessa, Kyiv, Zhytomir, Bila Tserkva, etc.)
I was in Ukraine in October 2013 for a beekeeping conference. I didn't hear anyone wax nostalgia for the Soviet era. Everyone was excited at the prospect of the European agreement. They believed it would open up trade so they could make more money, and they believed it would help reduce corruption in Ukraine. (Granted, I didn't visit the Eastern part of the country. I spent time in Odessa, Kyiv, Zhytomir, Bila Tserkva, etc.)
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Once again, the EU is a joke as a military alliance. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Words on paper don't stop bombs and bullets. It's easy to promise to defend another country - actually producing military equipment and men is a different story.
You say the EU would organize a military response if a EU member were attacked. What are they doing to use to organize a military response? What are they going to do, pick up sticks to fight with? They can't even meet their minimum obligations under NATO. (Trump threatened to pull out of NATO because the other NATO members didn't want to pay for a military, and just wanted the US to be their military protection and pay for everything.) How are they going to organize a military response for the EU?
In theory, all members are supposed to organize to defend anyone else. But let me explain how it works in reality. Every individual country says, "I don't need a military anymore. Everyone else will protect me. I will have the smallest possible military...just enough for appearance purposes. I don't want to spend any money on a military." What you end up with is a group of countries that have minimal military capability. Everyone in the EU expects everyone else to save them if they are attacked.
Germany is supposed to be the economic powerhouse of Europe. They should be able to afford quality weaponry. They finally donated some anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine. They were Soviet era missiles that had been in storage so long that 1/3 were corroded so badly they were unusable, and it is uncertain if any of the others are usable. What does the rest of their equipment look like?
Do you think Putin and the Kremlin doesn't know this? They are opportunistic, and want to try taking advantage of any situation if they can.
The EU is not a member of NATO itself only some of its member states are. Some EU member states are not a member of NATO. The big problem with NATO as trump found is that it can make a lot of its members slack as you say with regards to stumping up money for their own defence. Germany has been a big one on that front, instead of spending what they should have on defence they have been putting that money towards their economy hence part of the reason they are the largest economy in Europe. They essentially haven't been spending out on their military as they should have been as they know they can call on NATO, i.e the US to do that in a pinch. So the US through NATO has been taking a lot of the economic burden for the EU's defence.
Hence why I say NATO should have been wound down and that burden passed over to the EU. The AUKUS alliance is a better situation for the US, the UK, and eventually Australia. It keeps us far enough away from conflict but at a strategic distance and makes sure that the members included can pull their own weight and have militaries up to the task. A lot of NATO members are now former Eastern Bloc countries and while their militaries aren't the worst they are far from the best also. Take Poland, Romania, etc old Soviet era stuff, planes, stuff that is mothballed. They aren't great allies as they are a burden, don't have great militaries and come with higher risk/liability of being drawn into a war with Russia.
The EU is not primarily a military alliance organisation but they have their military policy and they should be stumping up to takeover from NATO in terms of EU members defence. They don't as they know their isn't support for it as it will cost member states more. Many member states are a part of NATO and are able to slack off on military spending as a result while the build their economies up. Until NATO announces that it is winding down its operation in Europe they never will want to stump up what they should be fine defence. However, if the EU says to its members that one member has been attacked by an outside force the rest will come in as a result when called upon, they have little choice in the matter as it's what they signed up to in joining the EU.
Today the US rejected it's bases in Germany being used to fly Polish gets to Ukraine from. It fears being drawn into the conflict as a result that it could be seen by Russia as an offensive act. I think they are right not to risk it, it seems like another cunning attempt to me of hawks trying to find any excuse to get a war started and drag in NATO into the conflict. It is most unhelpful as they don't seem to realise that they are playing with fire and it could go horribly wrong with us all ending up in WWIII/Nuclear, Chemical or Hyperthermal war. I really wish they wouldn't be so pushy with trying to drag us into this situation it is really not our fight.
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Reality check.
This conflict is an escalation of a civil war largely stemming from a US-backed coup in Ukraine eight years ago. Prior to recent events there were 13,000+ civilian deaths and millions of refugees.
Ukraine was de facto turning into a NATO member, wanted NATO membership, made comments about acquiring nuclear weapons, and has official government policy of taking Crimea by force. In addition, the US and UK have both provoked Russia by nearing or entering their territorial waters last year. This conflict wasn't 'unprovoked'.
Russia has hypersonic weapons that are unstoppable by current western defensive systems. Russia has the world's best defensive missile systems. Their older S-300 system proved to be effective in Syria: http://thesaker.is/u-s-u-k-france-conduct-massive-missile-strike-on-syria-details/ (http://thesaker.is/u-s-u-k-france-conduct-massive-missile-strike-on-syria-details/)
If Russia is pushed hard enough it may let the nukes fly. Not because Putin is unhinged but because the balance of probabilities heavily favors striking western countries given that it has been backed into a corner. De-escalation is absolutely necessary ASAP.
The Russian government's actions are certainly questionable but also rational.
My observations:
13000 including civilians and losses in both camps
Refugees: between 1.5 and 2 million
US-backed coup: no IMHO, reread Boethius explanation for the willingness of the population to join EU and 2/ Yakynovitch pushed the corruption too far (he wanted to create a business system that allowed him to take a personal percentage on the whole cereals market) so people started to gather in Maidan to protest. You know what happened next. So when the Russian Federation wants to bring back the same idiot to the Presidency of Ukraine (his hands are bloody, more than 100 people died around Maidan), what is the message to the Ukrainian people?A calculated and cynical contempt for Ukraine and its people. That was the RF's plan, re-induct this puppet back. So my analysis has now progressed to aim to the point that the RF hates democracy as a political system (put whatever reasons you like) and is totally ruled up by the same system that prevailed 50 years ago, during the Soviet Union - cold war. But in the end, it's even worse because there is no Politburo anymore and corruption has seized the whole society.
I recommend reading a recent interview of an old Russian general of 78 years:http://nypost.com/2022/02/07/ex-russia-general-warns-putin-against-criminal-ukraine-invasion/ (http://nypost.com/2022/02/07/ex-russia-general-warns-putin-against-criminal-ukraine-invasion/)
I have already written that everything coming from Ukraine talking about NATO memberships and even the EU at this moment is politically insane.
The new generation of offensive Russian weapons is a first concern yes. Their strategic bombers associated with the new missiles' generation (SU22, TU160) are a nightmare for every HQ in the West.
The S300's effectiveness is a little more complicated. The Russian Federation wants to sell it abroad (Turkey has S300, as Ukraine) but the real performance is not clear. It is still a very decent and feared SAM system (it is said that it could detect stealth planes but who really knows) but between two affirmations of 100% hits (US version) and 25% hits (Syrian version) the truth is probably midway.
I do agree that the Russian Federation shouldn't be put in a corner too much. Red lines must be clearly understood and never crossed.
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My observations:
13000 including civilians and losses in both camps
Refugees: between 1.5 and 2 million
US-backed coup: no IMHO, reread Boethius explanation for the willingness of the population to join EU and 2/ Yakynovitch pushed the corruption too far (he wanted to create a business system that allowed him to take a personal percentage on the whole cereals market) so people started to gather in Maidan to protest. You know what happened next. So when the Russian Federation wants to bring back the same idiot to the Presidency of Ukraine (his hands are bloody, more than 100 people died around Maidan), what is the message to the Ukrainian people?A calculated and cynical contempt for Ukraine and its people. That was the RF's plan, re-induct this puppet back. So my analysis has now progressed to aim to the point that the RF hates democracy as a political system (put whatever reasons you like) and is totally ruled up by the same system that prevailed 50 years ago, during the Soviet Union - cold war. But in the end, it's even worse because there is no Politburo anymore and corruption has seized the whole society.
I recommend reading a recent interview of an old Russian general of 78 years:http://nypost.com/2022/02/07/ex-russia-general-warns-putin-against-criminal-ukraine-invasion/ (http://nypost.com/2022/02/07/ex-russia-general-warns-putin-against-criminal-ukraine-invasion/)
I have already written that everything coming from Ukraine talking about NATO memberships and even the EU at this moment is politically insane.
The new generation of offensive Russian weapons is a first concern yes. Their strategic bombers associated with the new missiles' generation (SU22, TU160) are a nightmare for every HQ in the West.
The S300's effectiveness is a little more complicated. The Russian Federation wants to sell it abroad (Turkey has S300, as Ukraine) but the real performance is not clear. It is still a very decent and feared SAM system (it is said that it could detect stealth planes but who really knows) but between two affirmations of 100% hits (US version) and 25% hits (Syrian version) the truth is probably midway.
I do agree that the Russian Federation shouldn't be put in a corner too much. Red lines must be clearly understood and never crossed.
S-400, not S-300.
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The EU is not a member of NATO itself only some of its member states are. Some EU member states are not a member of NATO. The big problem with NATO as trump found is that it can make a lot of its members slack as you say with regards to stumping up money for their own defence. Germany has been a big one on that front, instead of spending what they should have on defence they have been putting that money towards their economy hence part of the reason they are the largest economy in Europe. They essentially haven't been spending out on their military as they should have been as they know they can call on NATO, i.e the US to do that in a pinch. So the US through NATO has been taking a lot of the economic burden for the EU's defence.
Hence why I say NATO should have been wound down and that burden passed over to the EU. The AUKUS alliance is a better situation for the US, the UK, and eventually Australia. It keeps us far enough away from conflict but at a strategic distance and makes sure that the members included can pull their own weight and have militaries up to the task. A lot of NATO members are now former Eastern Bloc countries and while their militaries aren't the worst they are far from the best also. Take Poland, Romania, etc old Soviet era stuff, planes, stuff that is mothballed. They aren't great allies as they are a burden, don't have great militaries and come with higher risk/liability of being drawn into a war with Russia.
The EU is not primarily a military alliance organisation but they have their military policy and they should be stumping up to takeover from NATO in terms of EU members defence. They don't as they know their isn't support for it as it will cost member states more. Many member states are a part of NATO and are able to slack off on military spending as a result while the build their economies up. Until NATO announces that it is winding down its operation in Europe they never will want to stump up what they should be fine defence. However, if the EU says to its members that one member has been attacked by an outside force the rest will come in as a result when called upon, they have little choice in the matter as it's what they signed up to in joining the EU.
Today the US rejected it's bases in Germany being used to fly Polish gets to Ukraine from. It fears being drawn into the conflict as a result that it could be seen by Russia as an offensive act. I think they are right not to risk it, it seems like another cunning attempt to me of hawks trying to find any excuse to get a war started and drag in NATO into the conflict. It is most unhelpful as they don't seem to realise that they are playing with fire and it could go horribly wrong with us all ending up in WWIII/Nuclear, Chemical or Hyperthermal war. I really wish they wouldn't be so pushy with trying to drag us into this situation it is really not our fight.
Hypothermal war?
Go on, basement warrior, explain to us what this is, since you seem to be making stuff up of the cuff.
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S-400, not S-300.
In Syria S300, not S400. The Russian Federation does have an S400 but for the protection of their own base. Around Damas S300.
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In Syria S300, not S400. The Russian Federation does have an S400 but for the protection of their own base. Around Damas S300.
You wrote Turkey has S-300’s. They don’t. They have S-400’s.
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I agree. Russia (Kaliningrad) is already surrounded by NATO. (Poland and Lithuania.) Latvia is NATO, and borders Russia. As far as I know, there are no nukes stationed in Poland, Lithuania, or Latvia.
Have you ever seen someone who had to sell off part of the family farm? And afterwards, they are full of bitterness and resentment? In their mind, that sold part still "belongs" to them. It is an injustice that someone else controls that land now. That is what Putin reminds me of.
I was in Ukraine in October 2013 for a beekeeping conference. I didn't hear anyone wax nostalgia for the Soviet era. Everyone was excited at the prospect of the European agreement. They believed it would open up trade so they could make more money, and they believed it would help reduce corruption in Ukraine. (Granted, I didn't visit the Eastern part of the country. I spent time in Odessa, Kyiv, Zhytomir, Bila Tserkva, etc.)
At that time the general feeling across Ukraine would be same as you experienced.
Kharkiv dnepr are the next largest cities and attitudes would be the same.
The donbas region included, the exceptions would be those powerful people already holding corrupt wealthy.positions fearing any change.
I think most remember where the prior Russian puppets where from and why that's their strong hold.
This is more akin a mafia thugs, upscaled to battalions, modern equipment of warfare including nukes
They lost their roof payments,their turf, and are pissed.
To me it's really that simple.
Certainly it's more complex, anf thousansd of factors at play,
but I'm not certain at its root that it truly is not just that simple.
As far as NATO borders you forgot to mention Estonia.
Between Estonia and Latvia ,(and kaliningrad) Russia has had a lot of shared border with NATO nations.
The only real danger this presents to them.is the inability to expand.
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The UK is going to provide Ukraine with the Starstreak SAM systems.
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A military band was playing the "Don't worry ..be happy " song in the centre of Odessa today.
Poroshenko was rallying the troops and civilian defence units in Kiev yesterday and they were laughing...no fear in their eyes at all.
No wonder the vast majoity of western men fail in their search for a wife in Ukraine..how can they compare with real men like this... that laugh in the face of death ?
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You wrote Turkey has S-300’s. They don’t. They have S-400’s.
Yep S400 now
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The US was involved and has remained involved. Ukraine has been supplied and trained by NATO (USA). That's not to justify Russia's actions but one can't honestly turn a blind eye either. I didn't say Russia was backed into a corner, I said if it is backed into a corner.
The US was not involved in the first demonstrations against Yanukovych. The first demonstrations were after he arrested Tymoshenko, and those protestors likely were paid to protest Tymoshenko's arrest. Thereafter, as I stated, Yanukovych rejected negotiations with the EU, and that is what started massive protests. That and his increasing kleptocracy. I had given Yanukovych the benefit of the doubt on the latter charge, but I was wrong, and Ukrainian activists who had pointed to his theft of state assets proved accurate.
Many, but not all of the leading Ukrainian activists were trained in the US on civil society. Most of that is funded by the Ukrainian diaspora, though, not the US government. Ukrainians come to Canada for that training as well. You need to understand just how much the diaspora did in helping establish democratic institutions in Ukraine. That is what most of the US funding goes toward. It's not going to control the country.
There have been 7 presidents of Ukraine. One was a placeholder. Of those, 3 were "pro Moscow" and 3, "pro West". Personally, I believe Poroshenko and Zelensky had no other choice, given the invasion of Ukrainian territory by Russia.
Russia's share of world oil sales is slightly higher than that, and it's naive to think supplies can be ramped up in a hurry. There's talk of multi-year incremental sanctions. That's absolutely going to split the world in two. The west will lose out.
Only slightly - 10% at best. I didn't state supplies can be ramped up in a hurry. But they will be within a year or a year and a half.
This won't split the world in two. China is going to pursue what is best for China. Same with India. No civilized country though, is going to endorse an invasion of a sovereign country on the flimsiest of so called "provocations". History also doesn't favour Russia. Please name one war in the last 100 years, other than wars of national liberation, that has worked in favour of an invader.
But it's more than hydrocarbons. Nickel, uranium, titanium, gold, copper, aluminum and other hard commodities will be impacted severely. A large percentage of fertilizer is exported from Belarus (25% from memory). Ukraine and Russia account for almost a third of global wheat production. What's going to happen to the harvest this year?
Prices are going to increase, that's what will happen.
Belarus is not even in the top 10 in fertilizer production. But I happen to know that Saskatchewan, which produces most of Canada's fertilizer (Canada is number 5 in the world, in terms of production) can produce a lot more. Drive through the middle of the province, and you can see potash literally for miles on either side of the road, and that potash is not being mined or collected.
Countries like Egypt, Turkey and Indonesia face the real risk of civil unrest due to rising food prices. Everything is going to get a lot more expensive and supply chains are going to break down. Global food insecurity is a big worry - including in western countries.
Again, I am unworried personally about food security, although prices will continue to rise (they have, significantly, already). I sent the better half to the Russian store to buy sunflower oil and buckwheat, both from Ukraine, as their product is better than local, by a mile.
This is arguably more dangerous than any time during the Cold War. Russia has superior missile technology. Poland offering planes is insane (seems like the Pentagon are not so crazy). Do you think Russia will sit by and do nothing? If it does, do you think it wouldn't consider a nuclear strike?
If Russia fires a nuclear missile, I believe it would be met with the same response. So no, I don't think this is a huge risk.
Ukraine is collateral damage between USA and Russia. Dragging the whole world down with it IMO is not a very intelligent idea. As catastrophic as events are in Ukraine I am gravely concerned for the state of world affairs. This is a regional conflict that is now global and spiraling out of control. The lack of diplomacy is astounding.
It is not a "regional conflict". It is a man of middling intellect assuming he could impose his will on a sovereign nation of 44 million people, the vast majority of them, hostile to what he stands for.
I do agree on the lack of diplomacy.
A commodity producer like Canada may fare better than others, but the west is kaput. The EU is a disaster that will collapse in as spectacular fashion as the USSR.
I believe your assertion on the demise of the EU is overstated.
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What is America's foreign policy ?
OH, FOR THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF THE SOVIET UNION. America’s foreign policy and goals were clear then: containment and opposition to communist expansion. Nuclear weapons were a deterrent, but neither side believed the other would use them.
Putin has changed the game by threatening to use nukes should the U.S. directly confront his forces now raping Ukraine and committing war crimes that the world is watching thanks to ubiquitous mobile phones, brave reporters and camera crews.
President Biden and top members of his administration say we can’t directly intervene to stop Russia because of Putin’s threat. Is that America’s new foreign policy? If we can do little beyond sanctions against nations that have nuclear weapons this will signal to those who have them — and those planning to acquire them —that they have little to fear from America should they proceed with invading Taiwan (China) or attacking Israel (Iran).
Suppose Putin is emboldened by at least temporary success in Ukraine and proceeds to invade other countries that once were in the Soviet orbit, but are now sovereign states. Finland has a border with Russia that is more than 800 miles long.
Will someone in this administration please tell us how far we would be prepared to go to help allies? Would the excuse that Russia has nuclear weapons be used to keep America from directly engaging Russian forces should they invade additional non-NATO countries? It would be nice to know and soon.
The increasingly secular West has difficulty understanding evil, except in general terms. It is why what appears to be a pending nuclear deal between the U.S. and Iran is fraught with danger. If reports are accurate, Iran would be required to ship its uranium to another country. Would that
country be Russia? And as part of the deal would the U.S. then buy Iranian oil in hopes of reducing gas prices ahead of the fall election? That would surely be a deal with the Devil and the ultimate in cynicism.
Evil can never be accommodated. It must be opposed, even defeated. That was Ronald Reagan’s goal with the Soviet Union. Now Putin thinks he can reincarnate the USSR.
Are we blind? Are we stupid? Do we have a foreign policy? If so, what is it?
email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribpub.com. CAL THOMAS
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This piece is from my part of the world, where our economy is dominated by oil.
http://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/varcoe-u-s-ban-on-russian-oil-an-earthquake-that-could-shake-up-future-of-global-energy-supply (http://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/varcoe-u-s-ban-on-russian-oil-an-earthquake-that-could-shake-up-future-of-global-energy-supply)
From the article:
“Russian exports are a pretty meaningful piece of global supply,” Cenovus Energy CEO Alex Pourbaix said in an interview from Houston.
“I’m personally confident that you will see the other oil-producing nations of the world be able, with time, to make up that slack . . . The world’s oil needs are going to get met. But I do think for a period of time, we are likely in for a pretty volatile oil market.”
Cenovus is one of the three largest oil companies in Canada.
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Evil can never be accommodated. It must be opposed, even defeated. That was Ronald Reagan’s goal with the Soviet Union. Now Putin thinks he can reincarnate the USSR.
Are we blind? Are we stupid? Do we have a foreign policy? If so, what is it?
The only thing that can change Putin is the Russian people. These same questions above need to be posed by them.
Helping Ukraine defend itself and providing assistance to innocent citizens is the best we can do at this time, unfortunately.
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If we can do little beyond sanctions against nations that have nuclear weapons this will signal to those who have them — and those planning to acquire them —that they have little to fear from America should they proceed with invading Taiwan (China) or attacking Israel (Iran).
I will tell you more. In 2014 everyone out there got a clear message: never, never ever give up your nukes if you have them in exchange for any, whatever guarantees. NEVER.
And, if you don’t have nukes, get them ASAP! This is your one and only guarantee against someone else attacking your country, annexing your soil, killing your people and - as we all see now - committing a flat-out genocide.
All of this is America's fault. It was the U.S. alongside Nazi Russia who rid Ukraine of the nukes in 1994. Only to use the memorandum signed in Budapest as toilet paper 20 years later.
Thank you America for the new world nuclear order.
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You mean you got scammed by Americans! hard to believe :-\
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You mean you got scammed by Americans! hard to believe :-\
Okey dokey..... Moderated until further notice .... someday .... maybe.
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Suppose Putin is emboldened by at least temporary success in Ukraine and proceeds to invade other countries that once were in the Soviet orbit, but are now sovereign states. Finland has a border with Russia that is more than 800 miles long.
Russia will get away with Ukraine with being sanctioned, which in itself will harm them. If they try to move into nations such as Finland it would be a different story.
I'd say, like practically everything, it is case by case.
Fathertime!
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If the Russians were called to withdraw to the borders quickly...It may mean that a chemical attack is next on the agenda.
Russia could launch chemical attack in Ukraine - White House
By Gordon Corera
Security correspondent, BBC NewsPublished
2 hours ago
Russia could be planning a chemical or biological weapon attack in Ukraine - and "we should all be on the lookout", the White House has said.Press secretary Jen Psaki said Russia's claims about US biological weapon labs, and chemical weapon development in Ukraine, were preposterous.She called the false claims an "obvious ploy" to try to justify further premeditated, unprovoked attacks.It comes after Western officials shared similar concerns about fresh attacks.They said they were "very concerned" about the risk the war could escalate, and particularly the possibility of Russia using non-conventional weapons. This most likely refers to chemical weapons although the term also covers tactical (small-scale) nuclear weapons, biological weapons and dirty bombs.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60683248
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8 generals fired.
http://zn.ua/UKRAINE/v-rossii-uvolili-vosem-heneralov-i-izmenili-taktiku-vedenija-vojny-danilov.html
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On YouTube, I saw an interview by DW (German news) with retired US General Wesley Clark. He said that on April first, 130,000 young Russian men are required to show up for conscription into the military as new privates. He said that if we can find a way to convince even 1/3 of Russian mothers not to send their sons to be cannon fodder, that would have a huge impact on the Russian military.
Have people forgotten about vk.com and Odnoklassniki? They were banned by Ukraine a few years ago, but the Russians still use these social media sites. (A few Ukrainians still use these sites via a VPN.) Why are refugee Ukrainians not using these sites more once they leave Ukraine and can access these sites again? Log in to their old accounts, and start posting information about the war and atrocities in Ukraine. This would be a way to get info into Russia to reach the people. Has the average Ukrainian forgotten about vk since they have not been able to use it for a few years?
Yes, it would only be a matter of time before Russia shut down these social media sites, but by then it would be too late. If there was a concerted effort by Ukrainians refugees, they could overwhelm social media in Russia.
I still have a vk account, but I know it has minimal impact. And any Russians who do see it may dismiss it as western propaganda, since I am an American. But if more Slavs and native Russian speakers were to post the atrocities on vk, it would be harder for the average Russian citizen to turn a blind eye.
Should Ukraine consider allowing citizens to access vk again, so they can spread the truth about what is happening in Ukraine?
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Which comedy slapstick/cartoon gave you this idea?
The Барнаул Bone Spur Show?
Russia ain’t America, you want your malchick exempted
he can temporarily opt out with an educational deferment and if he’s gonna try and get a medical deferment, he better be blind or missin a leg, otherwise his choice is a year in service or two in prison…
before this year, the standard price to pay in Moscva for an exemption was 25,000 USD
that was before, price is MUCH higher now…
almost nobody in Moscva with that kinda money nowadays anyway
so only a few oligarchniks can pull that off, and they already got their kids outta Dodgeski
In addition, for a “REAL RUSSIAN MAN", even a young one, being a soldat is a necessary badge of honor, no matter what the details, especially with all the nonstop patriotic propagandizing,
so sitting this one out, ain’t gonna happen for ANY Russians or Ukrainians
only a “little slabak malchick” would think like this or even have this idea…
ponelle?
PS, your cartoonish idea is rather silly
but here's a REALLY good cartoon!!
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Bee farmer,
Indo think most are doing so?
There is a very unpredictable acceptance of this info as well and its impact on decisions,as well.as consequences of the young men not signing up.
Obviously I'm very pro Ukraine, however I know in a large circle of my relatives past friends living now in Moscow their old classmates profiles and feeds are often full.of pro Russian rhetoric, slogans and vids. It's just unfathomable as they have family un Ukraine,but its there.
Some are of course.pro Ukraine, but these are all Ukrainians, its very shocking to us about some of these decades long family friends we have called ,for example because their mothers live near or even soame building as my mil.. .they often still dont believe this is going on to any.scale.
I assure you its tearing families and old friends apart,and that's ukrainians that merely relocated.
The Russians would be a mixed bag also, but hardly more empathetic on average.
I do think it's a good idea that they try ,but effectiveness seems very very low
I do know from.limited experience that most I know are doing so ,and facing limited success and a lot of angst over it.
To be fair we know many.Russian friends completey denouncing this openly, and certainly the majority of expat ukrainians in russia are doing so.
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So what happens when the Ukrainian government falls after the war switches from “siege” to “starvation” tactics after Odesa and Kyiv are encircled?
Will western sanctions imposed on Russia, also be imposed on Ukraine after this? If not, won’t Russia just use Ukraine to its advantage vis-a-vis sanctions? If yes, how can hurting Ukrainians be justified?
After the Ukrainian government falls, and the Ukrayins'ka Povstans'ka Armiya sets up shop in Poland and is attacked by Ukrainian Titushki Armiya hired by Russia, and Warshava has a “9-11”
what good will NATO be to Poland, who will they fight, Ukraine?
What happens after the west throws EVERY possible sanction it can possibly throw at Russia, and Russia just chugs along anyway, but decides to fight back with advanced asymmetrical warfare that they’ve had YEARS to plan for. If 9-11 could be done by 19 terrorists with boxcutters, what the hell do you think the FSB and GRU could do? And what could the west do in response?
more sanctions? LOL!!
You really think Ukraine is gonna win?
You really think the west is gonna win? – how?
Putin wants the sanctions, because it forces the oligarchs to stay in Russia and keep their money there and the iron curtain is ENTIRELY to his advantage, keeping in, what he wants to keep in, and keeping out, what he wants to keep out...
how are ya'll gonna defeat this? by doing exactly what he wants you to do? really good plan, yeah, sure...
meanwhile you should be REALLY afraid of HIS plan of attacking you, it makes the Wuhan Institute of Virology look funny!!!
you have NO IDEA how sophisticated Russians are at this, more than ANYONE else on the planet by orders of magnitude, China, USA included...
Sviets/Russians have been working on this for over 60 years
no one else has what they have, it was created for EXACTLY this kinda situation, OMG, the Moscva office of Vektor must be elated right now
look what a relatively mild virus like Covid did to the west...
Russians have thousands of personnel working on this
plus even more with their anti-plague system which they didn't even bother to use for covid, cuz it wasn't a sufficient enough threat
none of ya'll in the west have even a clue of what they can do....
and that's not even talking about "Kamera" in Leninskiy rayon
which I first thought was some kinda "photo-apparat" LOL!!!
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You are giving the Russians far too much credit, krimster.
The KGB couldn't even predict the demise of their own country 30 years ago. The Russians haven't been able to take Ukraine in the few days they thought they would. They did not believe the EU would be willing to impose sanctions. The oligarchs certainly didn't believe their Western assets would be confiscated. Do you really believe they will settle for the beaches of Phuket after Paris, Italy, and London? In Russia, they are under constant control. It's not a life they want, having indulged themselves (and as the better half says, they are all swine) in the decadent West.
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All of this is America's fault. It was the U.S. alongside Nazi Russia who rid Ukraine of the nukes in 1994. Only to use the memorandum signed in Budapest as toilet paper 20 years later.
Thank you America for the new world nuclear order.
Igor,
Any agreements are built on trust between nations. When trust has eroded, those agreements are simply pieces of paper.
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019-09/news/us-completes-inf-treaty-withdrawal
What I do think has happened over the years is that we have taken peace (in most places) for granted, declaring the "Cold War" over and such, resting on laurels instead of continuing dialogue.
But ultimately, what does Putin fear? Does he fear an attack by NATO? I think not. IMO Putin's Russia fears things like genuinely free elections, laws that give its citizens equality and a genuine say in government. Laws that combat corruption to provide more to ordinary citizens and not new oligarchs. Laws that offer more economic benefit to the lower classes. Laws that allow true freedom of speech.
Putin cannot afford people in Ukraine to live better and more freely than folks in Russia.
The excuses Putin puts forth to justify military action in Ukraine are simply veils that hide the full extent of his fears and eventual loss of political power. His balloon is nearing the bursting point, and he has to fight to protect it from the tiny pin that can make it burst.
I doubt mistakes from the past led to this war in Ukraine. It was destined to happen one day or another. Striving for freedom has never been achieved without high costs and blood. This is an unfortunate part of the process against those who hold power over us. This is Putin's struggle to maintain control.
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But ultimately, what does Putin fear? Does he fear an attack by NATO? I think not.
It's not so much that Putin thinks NATO is going to attack but the unease of having an opposing power of strength on his doorstep. More than that is the eastward expansion of both NATO and the EU. Yeltsin opposed the expansion of the EU after the breakup of the USSR. The EU had to tread slowly and carefully, creeping forward a bit at a time in expansion to avoid and sudden movements that might startle the Russian Bear.
Russia of course has China on its doorstep also as a power of strength but China is not seen as an opposing force, at least not so much as yet. China's focus is expansion into the South China sea region and beyond. China is also at odds with the US, UK, NATO somewhat so they have similar issues.
Another side to this is that Russia wants a bit of space from the EU and NATO. Before EU enlargement there was a lot of the Eastern Bloc countries that were quite a bulwark between Russia band the EU, now there is only Ukraine & Belarus. The EU exposes western values and that is something that is alien and uncomfortable to Russia. So seeing the ever eastwards expansion of the EU and NATO isn't much fun for Russia.
I've got to say it would be nice to have somewhere in Europe that is not Euroland. That's what I liked about Ukraine that it was different to western values and culture. If they were to join the EU they would have to go by EU rules and western influences may creep in even more. To me that would likely ruin the positives Ukraine has got in its own culture.
So Russia basically wants I think some of its own like minded countries around it so it can be units own world rather than have the western world staring it right in the face. That's what I gather if the situation, if course it's not at all on what it is doing its pretty appalling but I guess they see they have no choice. The EU & NATO have expanded towards them so they now feel they have to push back I reckon.
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Trains now with people going back to Ukraine..men,women and children...as per Sky News reporters on the border with Poland.
They're saying they cannot leave their country and that they'll go back and fight...the women as well as the men.
Aircraft strikes in Ukraine have lessened a lot over the last few days..as the Russian aircraft have been getting shot out of the sky...this from the UK Ministry of Defence.
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Trains now with people going back to Ukraine..men,women and children...as per Sky News reporters on the border with Poland.
They're saying they cannot leave their country and that they'll go back and fight...the women as well as the men.
Civilians returning to a bombed out warzone seems like a bad idea.
Once the exodus began, I thought it was in Russia's interest to permit it and promote accelerating it. Basically it removes non fighters while putting Russia in a position where it has a better chance to control those who remain. For that reason I don't generally believe the stories of Russia intentionally bombing exodus corridors. I'd be more apt to believe the people returning by train being struck with intent.
Fathertime!
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Shoigu story
http://nv.ua/ukr/world/geopolitics/rosiyska-armiya-slabka-ministr-oboroni-rf-jiji-pograbuvav-50223839.html
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it’s understood by everyone now in Moscva there will be no more Mercedes or BMWs, but instead Ladas...
Analysts at the FSB have plenty of skills and resources of all kinds, but it doesn’t matter, because someone “higher up” will decide that a conclusion is too negative, and must be changed to a more positive one to fit the official view, after awhile analysts learn what the correct report is supposed to be, so in order not to have to work double shifts, they learn to write correct reports
writing correct reports is a sign of your “loyalty”, everyone wants to be considered loyal, otherwise you you are considered an “enemy”
what doesn’t exist right now in Moscva, is a well-developed model of economic management under the current sanctions, nor reliable information with regards to loyalty of the elites in the financial and political sectors, nor reliable information on the impending extreme measures to be implemented in Russia.
everyone’s reports contradicts everyone elses, so it’s all just “bardak” and useless
as a result, there is a constant stream of new data on "emergent" economic problems that "cannot exist"
there are MAJOR supply chain problems inside Russia, particularly in the single industry industrial cities that is leading to a shortage of military hardware
due to all these economic problems (lots of people aren’t even paid their measly salaries now) there is an expected explosive increase in major crime expected within Russia, especially when combined with the war psychosis that’s growing…
There is now complete dysfunction of the former economic model as there is no more stabilization fund, the exchange rate is laughable, and the old system of employment is now impossible in principle, and as a result Russia has shifted from crisis mode to catastrophe mode
a lot of the analysts that I personally know believe that if the current problems go on for more than a year, then as a result, the central government will collapse (but they will NOT put this in any report)
The ruble printing presses will work overtime to try to stem the flood, but this will just produce a different catastrophe
power is being mobilized for use within Russia as well as Ukraine, all cities are being militarized
while everyone is looking for enemies and saboteurs
there’s going to be huge changes in the military command, expect the most ruthless individuals to rise to the top, what this means is that when Russian tanks enter Kyiv, they will have Ukrainian women and children marching in ranks on all sides as human shields, expect public mass executions, etc.
uncontrolled violence is the future of Russia and Ukraine, and this may also be transmitted to other parts of the world when the food supply chain fails
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I suspect if women and children are used as shields and the civilian population is mass executed, the West will intervene. There is only so far it can be pushed.
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Lada production halted due to lack of supplies in Russia has been widely reported.
I suspect Russia will start having problems getting supplies for their military too.
At this rate China will just walk in and take over Russia,with the majority of the Russian forces stuck in Ukraine with no supplies.
Why pay Russia for their Oil and Gas when China could get it for free ?
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it’s understood by everyone now in Moscva there will be no more Mercedes or BMWs, but instead Ladas...
Analysts at the FSB CIA have plenty of skills and resources of all kinds, but it doesn’t matter, because someone “higher up” will decide that a conclusion is too negative, and must be changed to a more positive one to fit the official view, after awhile analysts learn what the correct report is supposed to be, so in order not to have to work double shifts, they learn to write correct reports
writing correct reports is a sign of your “loyalty”, everyone wants to be considered loyal, otherwise you you are considered an “enemy”
what doesn’t exist right now in the West Moscva, is a well-developed model of economic management under the current sanctions conditions, nor reliable information with regards to loyalty of the elites in the financial and political sectors, nor reliable information on the impending extreme measures to be implemented in Russia the West.
everyone’s reports contradicts everyone elses, so it’s all just “bardak” and useless
as a result, there is a constant stream of new data on "emergent" economic problems that "cannot exist"
there are MAJOR supply chain problems inside Russia, particularly in the single industry industrial cities that is leading to a shortage of military hardware
due to all these economic problems (lots of people aren’t even paid their measly salaries now) there is an expected explosive increase in major crime expected within Russia the West, especially when combined with the war psychosis that’s growing…
There is now complete dysfunction of the former economic model as there is no more stabilization fund, the exchange rate is laughable, and the old system of employment is now impossible in principle, and as a result Russia has shifted from crisis mode to catastrophe mode
a lot of the analysts that I personally know believe that if the current problems go on for more than a year, then as a result, the central government will collapse (but they will NOT put this in any report)
The ruble dollar printing presses will work overtime to try to stem the flood, but this will just produce a different catastrophe
power is being mobilized for use within Russia as well as Ukraine, all cities are being militarized
while everyone is looking for enemies and saboteurs
there’s going to be huge changes in the military command, expect the most ruthless individuals to rise to the top, what this means is that when Russian tanks enter Kyiv, they will have Ukrainian women and children marching in ranks on all sides as human shields, expect public mass executions, etc.
uncontrolled violence is the future of Russia the West and Ukraine, and this may also be transmitted to other parts of the world when the food supply chain fails
Hey! Sounds just like Amerika
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"I suspect if women and children are used as shields and the civilian population is mass executed, the West will intervene."
if the west escalates, Russia will also escalate, I can already tell you who will win that scenario
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Well, no one wins. However, Russia cannot win against combined NATO forces. I am fairly certain of that. Heck, they couldn't even take Ukraine in a week.
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Bangladesh doesn't rush in to join with the west and they lose their donated 'death jabs' Population of Bangladesh is remarkably high considering their space.....165 Million about one half of the US population.
Bangladesh will pay for its “support” of Russia in canceled vaccine donations
....Now, with the world taking sides in Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, vaccine access is being used to retaliate against countries that aren’t expressing full opposition to Russia’s actions. This is what happened in the case of Lithuania, which decided to cancel its donation of nearly half a million Pfizer covid-19 vaccine doses to Bangladesh, after Bangladesh abstained in the UN General Assembly’s vote condemning the invasion.....
http://qz.com/2139368/lithuania-cancelled-its-vaccine-donation-to-bangladesh/?utm_source=YPL (http://qz.com/2139368/lithuania-cancelled-its-vaccine-donation-to-bangladesh/?utm_source=YPL)
Fathertime!
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I understand completely why former Soviet republics would do this. They don't want Russia emboldened in any way.
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Well, no one wins. However, Russia cannot win against combined NATO forces. I am fairly certain of that. Heck, they couldn't even take Ukraine in a week.
It's two weeks now .
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" I am fairly certain of that. Heck, they couldn't even take Ukraine in a week."
it won't be a war fought with conventional weapons, Russia will escalate into a completely new territory of warfare, for which the West is completely unprepared and would not survive
and this is without using its conventional nuclear forces...
Russia is more resiliant than the west, it's one of the reasons I own a farm in Costa Rica as insurance for my family
faux pas, just for you a picture of my Gen II Russian hand canon, aka, 26.5 mm flare gun
note the brass insert I machined myself to insert 12 ga shotgun shells, which thanks to Marina Butina are available in all Russian sporting goods stores
I load my own shells using about 50% more powder than standard shells, and use 4mm tungsten welding rods available in all welding shops cut to 10mm lengths
it's for very close range work, but your victim's face will be completely unrecognizable even from dental records should thery exist
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Sorry, I don't believe that. Nor do I believe Russians are tougher.
It's not the 20th century. Russia survived in the past because of weather. That's not so much a factor now.
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Drone footage shows Russian tank column retreat after artillery ambush------
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-drone-footage-shows-russian-tank-column-retreat-after-artillery-ambush-12562334
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In an interesting development, Japan has suddenly gotten much more aggressive about the Kuril islands, claiming they have sovereignty over them.
How many troops is Russia prepared to send eastward to defend the Kurils? Can they handle confrontations on two fronts, while being subjected to heavy sanctions? Will they allow Japan to take the Kurils, so they can concentrate their military forces on their western front?
How many other countries are going to start feeling ballsy in confronting Russia over disputed territory? How many fronts can Russia effectively fight on?
How will sanctions affect Russia's ability to operate in Syria? Will they walk away, so they can use those forces back in Ukraine or mainland Russia?
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There’s a reason why you’re not at the table of international diplomacy. ☝🏻
LOL. You mean like Denis Kireev? Ukrainian negotiator shot in the street by the SBU on suspicion of being a 'traitor'?
Not sure if it's related by Dmitry Demyanenko, former deputy head of the Main Directorate of the SBU was shot dead in a shootout with police.
I'm sure those stories are plastered all over mainstream media.
Prices are going to increase, that's what will happen.
Belarus is not even in the top 10 in fertilizer production. But I happen to know that Saskatchewan, which produces most of Canada's fertilizer (Canada is number 5 in the world, in terms of production) can produce a lot more. Drive through the middle of the province, and you can see potash literally for miles on either side of the road, and that potash is not being mined or collected.
Again, I am unworried personally about food security, although prices will continue to rise (they have, significantly, already).
Belarus is a major potash exporter. Russia has just announced a ban of fertilizer to 'unfriendly' countries. Ukraine has announced a ban on wheat exports. Russia may do the same.
You may not have concerns about food security but a lot of the world does. Turkey has asked the Ukrainian government not to accept Turkish foreign fighters. Funny about that, antagonize the Russians with drone sales, now doing a back peddle because Putin could cause food riots in Turkey. Not so good for Erdogan.
You are not forecasting how bad this is going to be for a lot of people in the west. There will be civil unrest in some countries - it's what sparked the Arab spring. Increased energy prices will result in more expensive everything, particularly food.
I suspect if women and children are used as shields and the civilian population is mass executed, the West will intervene. There is only so far it can be pushed.
LOL, no. Nuclear war is not something Washington wants, and it's UKRAINIAN military using civilians as human shields.
The word of the day - resilience. Russia will be far more resilient than the west with economic collapse. As Krimster has pointed out Russia has been preparing this for years. The USA has been so badly caught with its pants down that US-funded biolabs have been discovered. Nuland didn't look too comfortable handling those questions, LOL!
Good to see the old goat is back, I had suspected Covid jumped species...
The longer the Ukrainian government holds off on a settlement, the less bargaining power they will have. The cumulative impact of sanctions on Russia will take months to have a larger impact, by then the hot conflict may well be over.
How many other countries are going to start feeling ballsy in confronting Russia over disputed territory? How many fronts can Russia effectively fight on?
After Tokyo was fire-bombed by the USA and then 'impregnated' in Hiroshima and Nagasaki I don't think the Japanese want to seriously push the Russians. They cannot stop hypersonic missiles. It's suicide.
China will also say 'nyet' with threats to Japanese exporters, Japanese manufacturers in China, and the Sekaku islands. It may throw in an invasion of Taiwan for good measure which sends Japan back to feudal days as there will be very little they can export without Taiwanese microchips.
I appreciate that emotions may run high but a pragmatic de-escalation is the best for everyone (except for neocons and rats in Kyiv). That means Ukraine accepting Russia's non-negotiable demands.
The petrodollar is looking sicker by the day! I look forward to Russia asking for gold in payment for natural gas, LOL.
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What kind of settlement is dismantle your military? No sovereign nation can agree to that.
I don't believe Russians are more resilient than are Westerners. We just have the freedom to moan about it.
My comment on potash stands. Canada, not Belarus, is the world's largest producer and exporter of potash. Saskatchewan has over 100 billion tonnes of potash, and Canada has the world's largest reserves.
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What kind of settlement is dismantle your military? No sovereign nation can agree to that.
Not sure it's clicked yet but Ukraine no longer exists any more than what Russia allows. The stronger the military control, the less it will accept. What's the odds other oblasts are 'offered a referendum' on autonomy if it is forced to fight to the bloody end? And do you think such a referendum will occur without the results known in advance? I'm not advocating for this but can see the writing on the wall.
My comment on potash stands. Canada, not Belarus, is the world's largest producer and exporter of potash. Saskatchewan has over 100 billion tonnes of potash, and Canada has the world's largest reserves.
If you miss a planting season the harvest will be impacted. Additional supplies will not come on line in time and some farmers will go to the wall. Domestic issues may impact Canada's ability to deliver potash in greater quantities as well. You seem to have the impression that "all will be well". It's going to be a lot worse than you imagine. Not everybody is a rich lawyer in a western country.
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In an interesting development, Japan has suddenly gotten much more aggressive about the Kuril islands, claiming they have sovereignty over them.
How many troops is Russia prepared to send eastward to defend the Kurils? Can they handle confrontations on two fronts, while being subjected to heavy sanctions? Will they allow Japan to take the Kurils, so they can concentrate their military forces on their western front?
How many other countries are going to start feeling ballsy in confronting Russia over disputed territory? How many fronts can Russia effectively fight on?
How will sanctions affect Russia's ability to operate in Syria? Will they walk away, so they can use those forces back in Ukraine or mainland Russia?
The only one it takes to do so is China,and they have had good relations with Ukraine.
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Not sure it's clicked yet but Ukraine no longer exists any more than what Russia allows. The stronger the military control, the less it will accept. What's the odds other oblasts are 'offered a referendum' on autonomy if it is forced to fight to the bloody end? And do you think such a referendum will occur without the results known in advance? I'm not advocating for this but can see the writing on the wall.
If you miss a planting season the harvest will be impacted. Additional supplies will not come on line in time and some farmers will go to the wall. Domestic issues may impact Canada's ability to deliver potash in greater quantities as well. You seem to have the impression that "all will be well". It's going to be a lot worse than you imagine. Not everybody is a rich lawyer in a western country.
There is a lot of middle ground between the sky is falling ,and all will be well.
4 of 5 US states , Canada and Mexico can feed a lot more of the.world than is being put forth here.
Oil costs for all factors of that do play a role.
The wests production can increase significantly over 12 months.
That's just as quick as Russia can address its logistical nightmare it will be mired in soon.
The decline for everyone will not be equal ,and Russia stock piling gold may pull.them.thru, or may not.
This entirety is insane.
However I do not see Russia's strength at the negotiating table getting stronger over time,I see it.weakening .
There is trouble brewing in Kazakhstan again,easily can be stirred and destabilized ,same as some other places.
Obviously there are counter opinions.
Being mired in a war with 10 to 40 million hostiles, continually funded ones, is far different than other scenarios they have been in. This could make those seem.like a child's play date.
It's a nightmare for any military force.to control.and has seldom been long term successful in modern history.
I ask myself why the 14th battalion russian army hasn't left Transnistia? To help invade Ukraine and cut supplies lines from europe? Perfect strategic location to do so and part of why Russia pours 20 million euro.into.it.every year.
In a big scale invasion that's a bit
Odd to.leave on the.table isnt it?
The black sea is hard to control,you have a nato member holding the keys.
And those keys.are easily tossed down the well.
Russia should have worried about China, Georgia and turkey ,not Ukraine
Just my opinion
I think there is a lot more going on here.
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faux pas, just for you a picture of my Gen II Russian hand canon, aka, 26.5 mm flare gun
note the brass insert I machined myself to insert 12 ga shotgun shells, which thanks to Marina Butina are available in all Russian sporting goods stores
I load my own shells using about 50% more powder than standard shells, and use 4mm tungsten welding rods available in all welding shops cut to 10mm lengths
it's for very close range work, but your victim's face will be completely unrecognizable even from dental records should thery exist
Inventive. That could kill a room full of peeps LOL. What kind of shot in the shells?
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Inventive. That could kill a room full of peeps LOL. What kind of shot in the shells?
Looks like his *shot* is shrapnel, the.4mm x 10mm .tungston rods.?
Since I TIG weld almost daily,I'm appalled at the use of this nice commodity, when pretty much anything else would do at shotgun range
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it's laborius cutting the rods, but it does considerable more damage than regular birdshot
since all shell purchases in Russia are traceable, having homemade components, including wads makes it more difficult for militsa
my other weapon of choice is a sawed off "Baikal",
after WWII, the Soviets brought back from Germany a complete shotgun factory and made them in Russia
these are cheap, universally avaialble, so you can have a "straw buyer" get it outside your locale, and the black market price will be about 1000 USD which is a little over double retail with ser # filed off, so very affordable and these are overbuilt, impossible to blow up with the crazy powder charges I use, but both of these are VERY loud!!!
it's better to buy an older used one, than a new one where the sales record will be on top of the pile instead of on the bottom, ponelle?
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Not sure it's clicked yet but Ukraine no longer exists any more than what Russia allows.
That will not be forever, though, unless Russia plans on executing 40 million individuals. Long term, Russia cannot sustain this.
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" I ask myself why the 14th battalion russian army hasn't left Transnistia? "
because 1/4 the population is composed of Ukrainian citizens, and they need divisions not battalions for Odesa encirclement
Russia will in the near future enter a general mobilization phase, so they'll have all the manpower they need
they've accomplished two goals thus far:
1. ropened norther crimean canal
2. landbridge from Donbas to Crimea
todo list
1. encircle Odesa and starve defenders and completely cut-off Black Sea
2. same for Kyiv
at that point, there is no more Ukrainian state, just partisans fighting
and war will enter next phase the holodomoracaust
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Looks like his *shot* is shrapnel, the.4mm x 10mm .tungston rods.?
Since I TIG weld almost daily,I'm appalled at the use of this nice commodity, when pretty much anything else would do at shotgun range
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Yeah I kind'a got that from his post but was still a bit fuzzy as to was he including any shot in the shells.
it's laborius cutting the rods, but it does considerable more damage than regular birdshot
since all shell purchases in Russia are traceable, having homemade components, including wads makes it more difficult for militsa
my other weapon of choice is a sawed off "Baikal",
after WWII, the Soviets brought back from Germany a complete shotgun factory and made them in Russia
these are cheap, universally avaialble, so you can have a "straw buyer" get it outside your locale, and the black market price will be about 1000 USD which is a little over double retail with ser # filed off, so very affordable and these are overbuilt, impossible to blow up with the crazy powder charges I use, but both of these are VERY loud!!!
Well it really depends on the damage you hope to inflict. Welding rods does seem quite laborious and coming out of that little canon will go in every direction. Assuming you can't get slugs or buckshot, do you know have a resource for ball bearings?
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What kind of settlement is dismantle your military? No sovereign nation can agree to that.
An offensive type military isn't always necessary for nations to exist and do alright. There are a few nations that haven't a military. Panama and Costa Rica are notable. Also after defeat Japan didn't have a military.
Fathertime!
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That will not be forever, though, unless Russia plans on executing 40 million individuals. Long term, Russia cannot sustain this.
How long have other empires sustained control? I seem to recall the British held India for quite some time.
There may be a 'democratic' approach to autonomy or absorption in to the Russian Federation such as with Crimea, LNR and DNR for former parts of Ukraine. These areas will end up like Chechnya, ruled by a warlord but loyal to Moscow. From what I've heard Russia's looking to control everything east of Zhytomyr.
Whatever remains of Ukraine will have no armed forces. Any violent reprisals will be deemed "terrorism" and dealt with accordingly. Putin's more likely to deliver the 'Grozny treatment' to areas that are anti-Russian. I've read that Ukrainian soldiers with Nazi tattoos are being summarily executed (something that should be denounced outright). They won't mess around. But it will be far less than 40 million.
I ask myself why the 14th battalion russian army hasn't left Transnistia? To help invade Ukraine and cut supplies lines from europe? Perfect strategic location to do so and part of why Russia pours 20 million euro.into.it.every year.
In a big scale invasion that's a bit
Odd to.leave on the.table isnt it?
The Russians want the encircle Odesa and hope the Ukrainian government capitulates without having to fight for it. If it does it will blockade the city until it submits. The eastern flank is not ready either. No doubt it is viewed similarly to how the Germans viewed Leningrad. They don't want to destroy it.
Once the war has 'ended' Turkey will have to re-open the Bosporus, else face the wrath of Russia. It's willing to poke a bear but only to a point. Food security is a big concern for Erdogan, Turkey are heavily reliant on food from Eastern Europe.
The truth is somewhere between Russian propaganda and Ukrainian/western fairy tales. Russia is well advanced in taking the country but has had setbacks greater than it is willing to admit. The fact that high ranking officials are getting knocked off by other officials is a solid signal all is not well in Kyiv.
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Not sure it's clicked yet but Ukraine no longer exists any more than what Russia allows. The stronger the military control, the less it will accept. What's the odds other oblasts are 'offered a referendum' on autonomy if it is forced to fight to the bloody end? And do you think such a referendum will occur without the results known in advance? I'm not advocating for this but can see the writing on the wall.
Original demands from Russia may be seen as more doable as times go on. Like you mentioned, those demands have a good chance of increasing as more costs build up. Prior to all of this happening it may have taken even less than the 4 demands to appease Russia.
Rightwing talk radio seems to be getting caught up in the biolabs thing now in Ukraine. I'm not bought into that just yet. Talk radio has a way of exaggerating things and or omitting important details.
Fathertime!
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Russia of course has China on its doorstep also as a power of strength but China is not seen as an opposing force, at least not so much as yet. China's focus is expansion into the South China sea region and beyond. China is also at odds with the US, UK, NATO somewhat so they have similar issues.
Some people like to say how China is going to be Russia's enemy....china recently said something like russia and china's friendship has 'no limits' (sounded a bit gay), but the sentiment is understood. People try to sabotage their friendship but I don't think that is going to work, given the types of things said in the west about china recently, in addition to the sanctions. It is in China's interest to stick with Russia this time around.
Fathertime!
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Belarus is a major potash exporter. Russia has just announced a ban of fertilizer to 'unfriendly' countries.
If you miss a planting season the harvest will be impacted. Additional supplies will not come on line in time and some farmers will go to the wall. Domestic issues may impact Canada's ability to deliver potash in greater quantities as well.
What farmer is going to miss a planting season because of a lack of potash? You seem to think that it's a critical fertilizer. It's not.
Potash is used by plants for stalks. Stalks normally aren't harvested, so the potassium gets returned to the soil and reused. Normally, a farmer should need very little potash. The times you see a farmer needing potash would be instances like a field that floods in the winter, and all the stalks get washed down the river. Or someone who makes and sells hay year after year. The hay strips the field of the nutrients and nothing gets put back.
A lack of potash on the market is not going to have a big impact on farmers. They can still plant and get a harvest. The yield might be a little lower, but they won't lose a crop.
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China will also say 'nyet' with threats to Japanese exporters, Japanese manufacturers in China, and the Sekaku islands. It may throw in an invasion of Taiwan for good measure which sends Japan back to feudal days as there will be very little they can export without Taiwanese microchips.
What about the 64 villages area near Sakhalin island? That area is claimed by both Russia and China. Russia appears to be at a moment of weakness right now. China could tell Russia that if Russia wants any Chinese help, Russia has to drop their claims to the disputed area, and they must also support China if China tries to take Taiwan.
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Assuming you can't get slugs or buckshot, do you know have a resource for ball bearings?
When would someone ever be in a situation where they couldn't get buckshot? It's not that hard to get your hands on junk car batteries. Bust them open. They are full of lead plates. Lead melts at like 640 degrees IIRC. You can melt it over a campfire. Slowly pour the melted lead into a bucket of water. That's how they used to make shot in the olden days. The size of the lead balls varies depending on how fast you pour it into the water, and sometimes it will be tear drop shaped, but it works just fine in shotgun shells.
A stack of dimes in shotgun shells will cut a 55 gallon barrel in half.
If you need slugs, but don't have any available, if you can get the old cardboard shotgun shells, ring them and they can be used as slugs.
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Tungsten is nearly 75% denser than lead and 2.5 times that of steel, it has tremendous inertia when it strikes a target
based on my testing, the damage is twice what a normal shotgun shell will do, once you go tungsten you’ll never go back!
this is a short range weapon kinda like a derringer, it works just fine, I know all about how to make bird shot, the method you presented can only create tiny #7 sized shot, (check it out on youtube, if you'd like to see for yourself) each tungsten rod weighs about double what a piece of double 00 buckshot weighs, #7 shot weighs about 1.5 grain each, my rods weigh about 7 grams each
only real drawbacks are the short range, a sprained wrist, and ringing in my ears, but the “other guy” will not ever feel a thing, very humane
this is "maya Natasha" with a lightly chopped Baikal
Dimes are kinda hard to find in Russia, and 1 ruble coins are just a little too big for a 12 ga and so are 50 kopec, also they’re made of steel, just too light… you could go with 10 kopec, but they don’t penetrate very well if they hit flat side first, and made of steel as well, nowhere near as devastating as the tungsten rod approach, not even close
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A big covid wave went through the Russian military after new year and Orthodox Christmas, some units had 1 in 5 soldiers out sick at the same time, not many deaths, but a lotta sick soldiers, who were only given a week of bed time and then had to go back to light duty, a lot of these didn’t completely recover and have reduced lung capacity now, this has had a bad morale effect along with the living conditions (covid is just one of the negative conditions)
I wonder how Ukrainian military and civilians are dealing with this, their living conditions seem to involve a lot of close contact with unmasked people, covid is not over with in Russia and Ukraine, far from it,
Russia just recently announced that all health facilities in Russia must submit a list of all medical personnel, whom the government intends to start conscripting for the war effort, further hampering all the medical problems within Russia
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Da ,koneshno
Nice double!
Welding gun Tungsten is a tough to cut,surprised you dont find a sharp edge like a vice jaw edge,and give it a tap ,breaks easy, not cleanly but doesn't matter in this use?
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russians have a tool for cutting and sharpening rods, I assume in USA as well, but I never checked it out cuz, in USA I can just buy tungsten shot of any size and is what I use
if I ever go back to russia, I won't be in bizness anymore, as I have retired, and just work on my hobbies now...
if I do ever return, and that basically depends on whether my children and their spouses return, I hopefully won't really need such things
I am the bow who has launched his fair daughters like arrows into the heart of the Russian oligarchy
thanks to my efforts "my Russians" moved their money out, and their net worth is now much higher, than before the war
when the big reset happens in Russia, they will be at the top, or they will continue to live on the outside, time will tell all...
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Bloomberg News --------------
Sanctions leveled on Russia will ultimately cause more damage to the U.S. and its allies, a research group that advises Chinese President Xi Jinping said, as Beijing weighs how much backing to give its close diplomatic partner.
Russia has largely adapted to dealing with punitive financial measures since 2014, when it was penalized for seizing Crimea, Ma Xue, an associate researcher at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, wrote in an article published on social media Tuesday. U.S. and European allies will wind up suffering for supporting Ukraine, said Ma, whose research body is linked to the Ministry of State Security, China’s civilian intelligence agency.
Ma’s assessment contrasts with most early reactions to the measures, which included cutting off the Russian central bank from its pile of foreign exchange. That move sent the ruble tumbling (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-28/central-bank-sanctions-breach-fortress-russia-halt-intervention) the most since the 1990s. A slew of foreign companies, including BP Plc and Shell Plc, are leaving the world’s No. 11 economy over the financial and reputational risks, and Russian industrial-metal exports have sunk (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-28/russian-metal-exports-slide-as-sanctions-hit-commodity-financing) as commodity buyers and financiers pull back.
China has so far refused to either criticize or endorse Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, and abstained from a UN Security Council vote on a resolution condemning the move. On Tuesday, Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin repeated China’s call for dialogue between the two sides. Cutting off Russian banks from the SWIFT (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-26/u-s-weighs-sanctions-on-russia-s-central-bank-over-ukraine) money messaging system will wind up hurting Europe roughly as much, according to Ma, whose research body is linked to the Ministry of State Security, China’s civilian intelligence agency. Ma added that the U.S. could also incur major costs in the future providing economic and humanitarian aid to allies, and that Europe could be destabilized by large numbers of fleeing Ukrainians.
“If the Ukraine refugee crisis is not properly handled, this will be conducive for Russia to sow hatred and sabotage NATO,” Ma wrote. “The fierce debate on refugee problems inside Europe could also damage its unity at crucial moments.”
Why SWIFT Ban Is Such a Potent Sanction on Russia: QuickTake (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-26/why-swift-s-global-payments-are-sanctions-pain-point-quicktake)
Still, China could provide some support for Russia to keep the punishments from biting too hard. Chinese companies are expected to scoop up (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-01/shunned-russian-oil-may-get-scooped-up-by-hungry-chinese-buyers) discounted Russian oil if sanctions deter other buyers, traders have said. It could also provide a financial lifeline because the People’s Bank of China has a multi-billion dollar currency swap (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-28/sanctions-on-russia-puts-focus-on-china-s-central-bank) with its counterpart in Moscow, allowing the nations to provide liquidity to businesses so they can continue trading.
Russia has also worked to remove the dollar’s hold over its financial system in recent years -- selling most of its U.S. Treasuries in 2018 -- as it girded for potential sanctions.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-01/china-spy-agency-s-research-body-sees-russia-surviving-sanctions
Perhaps sanctions are backfiring. Putin's approval rate has jumped to 71% [so reported] The skinny is--That mean mean evil west.
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Rightwing talk radio seems to be getting caught up in the biolabs thing now in Ukraine. I'm not bought into that just yet. Talk radio has a way of exaggerating things and or omitting important details.
Fathertime!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y39veTO7kF4
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I was one of the people who endured the H5N1 outbreak in Crimea in 2006
my oldest daughter got sick, and I totally panicked and I took her to the hospital in Simpheropol
where they weren’t able to determine what she was sick with, because no one at all in Crimea could test for H5N1 even in humans, or in chickens
as Ukraine was becoming an emerging location for this virus and Ukraine had no technical resources to deal with it, and AT THAT TIME, the USA actually understood that viruses don’t respect international boundaries and whatever happened in Ukraine wasn’t going to stay there and could come to the USA, they helped Ukraine set up this kind of lab(s) for testing for highly pathogenic diseases that could end up being a global threat
and by the way, these labs are open to international inspection, it'd be IMPOSSIBLE to conceal some kind of biowar program there
the only ones repeating these lies are "THE USUAL SUSPECTS" who also spread Covid lies...
remember when the USA had an “Office of Pandemic Preparedness” but “somebody” shut it down?…
hmmmmmm…..
if you want to read about an ACTUAL biowar lab leak then checkout:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak
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Previous gossip was that Belarus soldiers refused to move into Ukraine.
So now Russia bombs Belarus.
Will this be believed by Belarus soldiers so that they will now attack Ukraine?
Was Lukashenko complicit in this ? i.e. he agreed with Putin to let Russia bomb his own people.
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looks like they "killed Fritz"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujQ-nMc0WGE
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Well... the Russian Military analyst in Moscow for Novaya Gazetta reckons Ukraine is winning the war.
He's on Sky News now and says Russia is running out of reserves.,and their pounding of cities is a sign of increasing desperation from Putin.
He said that the war will drag on but by the fall Russia will be in a desperate situation...and so will Putin.
His name is Pavel Felgenhauer.
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This is an interesting read.
http://www.igorsushko.com/2022/03/translation-of-alleged-analysis-of.html?m=1 (http://www.igorsushko.com/2022/03/translation-of-alleged-analysis-of.html?m=1)
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This is an interesting read.
http://www.igorsushko.com/2022/03/translation-of-alleged-analysis-of.html?m=1 (http://www.igorsushko.com/2022/03/translation-of-alleged-analysis-of.html?m=1)
Yes, very interesting. And that link is only one of four, or maybe five now, letters from a purported FSB agent. The first three of those letters are reported to have been verified.
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Translated from alleged FSB sources, who forwarded their letters to Vladimir Osechkin, a Russian human rights activists currently in exile in France.
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Perspective of an American who was in Chernihiv.
http://youtu.be/QOOjxCBB5Ws
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Rightwing talk radio seems to be getting caught up in the biolabs thing now in Ukraine. I'm not bought into that just yet. Talk radio has a way of exaggerating things and or omitting important details.
If there is no US involvement in any biolab stuff then how does the State Department know about it?
US undersecretary of state acknowledges there are biological warfare labs in Ukraine
On Tuesday, Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland stated before a Senate hearing that “biological research facilities” have been operating in Ukraine, in response to a question from Senator Marco Rubio (Republican of Florida) about the presence of chemical or biological weapons in the country.
While she said nothing about US involvement in the labs, Nuland rapidly shifted her testimony during the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing to efforts by the State Department to “prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.” She went on, in a carefully orchestrated exchange with Rubio, to say that if there were a biological or chemical weapons attack inside Ukraine, it would “no doubt” be carried out by Russia.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/10/nula-m10.html
Where is Tony Fauci? Grab him by the ear and make him talk. I would :-\
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If there is no US involvement in any biolab stuff then how does the State Department know about it?
US undersecretary of state acknowledges there are biological warfare labs in Ukrainehttp://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/10/nula-m10.html (http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/10/nula-m10.html)
Where is Tony Fauci? Grab him by the ear and make him talk. I would :-\
Words matter ....
The presence of biological research labs is NOT the same as "biological warfare labs." Several days ago Russian military reported the discovery of labs containing 30 biological compounds in Ukraine. They also claim some of those compounds might have been useful in development of biological weapons, but no evidence of that use has been presented. They (Russia) also claim the labs were secretly-funded by the US, a claim easily disproved by a cursory review of the US Embassy's website.
Link to a fact check by BBC News .... http://www.bbc.com/news/60711705
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"In fact, now there are two people left who absolutely directly advocate the continuation of the war on the territory of Ukraine - Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu."
http://war.segodnya.ua/war/vtorzhenie/voynu-protiv-ukrainy-hotyat-prodolzhat-tolko-dvoe-glava-voennoy-razvedki-1608333.html
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No sane country puts bio warfare labs on.the border of the enemy in a shared culture,people, language. Its silly to do so for a weapon that needs no development in proximity to its target, and increased chance of it being discovered.
I still don't buy this for a second.
Research labs,sure.
Funding for security and research from.usa and china and who knows who else sure ,its normal.
Covid pushed billions into that industry.
Meanwhile the hot water lines where hit and no Nikolaev has no heat
My MIL and SIL are.still.there,temps in.the 20Fs
:(
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No sane country puts bio warfare labs on.the border of the enemy in a shared culture,people, language. Its silly to do so for a weapon that needs no deve6in proximity to its target, and increased chance of it being discovered.
I still don't buy this for a second.
Research labs,sure.
Funding for security and research from.usa and china and who knows who else sure ,its normal.
Covid pushed billions into that industry.
Meanwhile the hot water lines where hit and no Nikolaev has no heat
My MIL and SIL are.still.there,temps in.the 20Fs
:(
Russia's claim of bio warfare labs in combination with confirmed reports of bio/chem warfare suits being brought into the country by Russian troops looks more and more like Putin's plan is to create another false pretext for expansion of the campaign to include chemical weapons. Whether that constitutes a 'red line' for Western powers remains to be seen.
Really sorry about your wife's family. I have friends in/near Kyiv and a few elsewhere. Those in Kyiv are still able to send periodic messages when their power is not interrupted. The ones elsewhere are really spotty and some have not responded in days.
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The propaganda machine is in full swing. I think it has been a great idea for the US to divulge what might otherwise be deemed classified information in a preemptive manner.
Still, many can't seem to get past the headlines or lack the skill set to research further. It's really not that difficult. Internet research should be a required subject beginning in elementary school.
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If there is no US involvement in any biolab stuff then how does the State Department know about it?
Super easy to answer, straight from the people who renovated the BSL-3 lab. AFAIK there are no BSL-4 labs in UA.
http://www.bv.com/projects/state-art-diagnostics-laboratory-helps-make-world-safer
The BSL-3 laboratory was specifically designed and constructed to support work with especially dangerous pathogens that can be naturally occurring or introduced through a bioterrorism attack. It serves as a central location for research, consolidation and training on the proper handling of dangerous pathogens. The lab also provides the Ukrainian Ministry of Health a safe environment to confirm diagnosis of suspected dangerous pathogens, enhancing public health while deterring bioterrorism.
Definitions of BSL levels here: http://www.labmanager.com/lab-health-and-safety/biosafety-levels-1-2-3-4-19123
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Reports from Ukrainian captured cities over the fpadt few days seems to be showing them to be allowed to keep the Ukrainian Flag on Government/Mayor's buildings. This to me suggests that the Russians are not wanting to be seen as occupiers by hoisting the Russian Flag. It also makes me think that post Russian victory they will set Ukraine up as a semi-autonomous state with a Pro-Russian government using their current Ukrainian Flag. In that way Russia won't create a symbol of resistance which to rally around, the Ukrainian Flag which Ukrainians identify with.
Bit by bit the Russian Bear seems to be strangling the life out of Ukraine. It's a slow process but one where I think gradually the Russians will grind down Ukrainian defenders in the cities. In Mariupol the situation is getting desperate and I think will reflect Russia's strategy in all Ukrainian cities. In Kyiv the city is now encircled, with Russian armour having spread out yesterday. I can see Kyiv going pretty much like Mariupol. Nikolaev also and at some point the Russians will likely get towards Odesa.
Putin is calling on Syrian fighters to join Russia and is offering a salary of ten times their normal pay to fight. That is probably in preference to pulling more of his own troops over from other parts of Russia. Apparently infantry may be more used to attack in Kyiv now with Russian tanks likely being kept outside the city to keep it surrounded.
Although Ukrainians have fought bravely I think they will unfortunately succumb to Russian tactics of surround and conquer over time. Here is an update on the present situation:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/12/kyiv-ready-to-fight-as-russian-forces-close-in-ukraine-capital
Bitterly cold temperatures throughout Ukraine at the moment.
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Zelensky has said today that 1,300 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far. :(
He also said that at least 500 Russian soldiers surrendered yesterday.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y39veTO7kF4
For the moment, I'll just read and listen critically, without making up my mind.
It seems on one hand right wing talk radio is promoting the weaponized biolabs as being legit...but logic suggests it can't be accurate. Why would an already threatened Ukraine give Russia such a legitimate reason to invade...?
For right wing radio hosts, it seems poking Biden in the eye is more important than reporting with accuracy the events in Ukraine. On the other hand, Nuland didn't really answer the questions completely and seems to be hiding something as usual...
Fathertime!
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Previous gossip was that Belarus soldiers refused to move into Ukraine.
So now Russia bombs Belarus.
Will this be believed by Belarus soldiers so that they will now attack Ukraine?
Was Lukashenko complicit in this ? i.e. he agreed with Putin to let Russia bomb his own people.
I haven't seen anything much about this story. Are you sure it is actually a real story...
Fathertime!
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Russia is considering striking back by nationalizing all the companies that stop doing business in Russia. Seizing their assets. The west is condemning Russia of course...although Russian certain assets are being seized across the globe.
Fathertime!
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New Reports Suggest Russian Losses in Ukraine Are Absolutely Catastrophic
How many Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine? It’s tough to know. We have Ukrainian sources saying their land has become a killing field for Russian forces, with at least 11,000 killed since the start of the war. It is true that the Russian offensive has become stuck in the mud. Tanks are running out of gas. That 40-mile Russian convoy outside of the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv has yet to move. What’s going on? Other estimates of the Russian war dead are in the 4,000-6,000 range which is probably a tad more accurate. Still, that’s more Russians killed in less than two weeks in Ukraine than all American losses during the entirety of the Iraq War and occupation. The Ukrainians are holding on, mounting a dogged defense against a superior adversary. We’ll see how long that lasts after the Russians clinch air superiority which they have so far been unable to do.
MORE----
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/03/12/ukrainian-killing-field-belarusian-hospitals-are-reportedly-overflowing-with-rus-n2604464?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky1
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Due to being cut-off from SWIFT
Russian companies are switching in droves to the Chinese “Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS) “, and in addition they are switching to a Chinese payment card “Union Pay”
however…
in order to hedge against the falling ruble, the Chinese forex rate is STEEPLY discounted against the CURRENT ruble rate by about 20%, which makes such purchases exorbitant…
Russia still has quite a bit of dollar reserves in the Chinese banking system, that and the oil trade are the only things keeping the economy afloat…
this approach is going to be inefficient, not only because of price, but also delivery (which will add to the price), because Chines products will be delivered to Vladivostok instead of through Europe
Russian economy will be "jhoppa" by summer
Russia has only two levers against the West, oil and nukes…
after they pushed on the oil lever all that they can (China can’t be very happy about this and rising grain prices) they will switch to nukes…
I would expect a demonstration over some uninhabited region of the planet which will be displayed all over the Western media as a warning
Russia will also work to disrupt western weapon deliveries, so expect western casualties
PS, League of Soldier's Mothers, which had been VERY vocal about Russian military in the past, is strangely silent in regards to the current "Special Military Operation" (remember you cannot say war in Russia) this tells you the level of "social control" in Russia
http://ksmrus.ru/
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Third Russian general killed in Ukraine in eight days: Commander of armored unit is the latest senior officer to be claimed dead by Ukrainian forces.
Major General Andrei Kolesnikov of the 29th Combined Arms Army is Russia's latest high profile casualty. His death follows Major General Vitaly Gerasimov and Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky
This comes as a care home for disabled near Kharkiv, north east Ukraine, was hit by Russian shelling, local officials say. 63 of the home's 330 residents have been evacuated, while fate of the other 267 is currently unknown.
It is unusual for Generals to be in harms way, so it is thought they are having to move to the front because lower ranked Russian officers are unable or unwilling to make decisions or are fearful of moving forward and that many of the troops are wanting to quit.
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Words matter ....
Link to a fact check by BBC News .... http://www.bbc.com/news/60711705 (http://www.bbc.com/news/60711705)
The State Dep't lady failed to try and correct the language...the Senator failed to pursue the language...and the wsws news article assumed the language...yes--words do matter.
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Reports from Ukrainian captured cities over the fpadt few days seems to be showing them to be allowed to keep the Ukrainian Flag on Government/Mayor's buildings. This to me suggests that the Russians are not wanting to be seen as occupiers by hoisting the Russian Flag. It also makes me think that post Russian victory they will set Ukraine up as a semi-autonomous state with a Pro-Russian government using their current Ukrainian Flag. In that way Russia won't create a symbol of resistance which to rally around, the Ukrainian Flag which Ukrainians identify with.
Bit by bit the Russian Bear seems to be strangling the life out of Ukraine. It's a slow process but one where I think gradually the Russians will grind down Ukrainian defenders in the cities. In Mariupol the situation is getting desperate and I think will reflect Russia's strategy in all Ukrainian cities. In Kyiv the city is now encircled, with Russian armour having spread out yesterday. I can see Kyiv going pretty much like Mariupol. Nikolaev also and at some point the Russians will likely get towards Odesa.
Putin is calling on Syrian fighters to join Russia and is offering a salary of ten times their normal pay to fight. That is probably in preference to pulling more of his own troops over from other parts of Russia. Apparently infantry may be more used to attack in Kyiv now with Russian tanks likely being kept outside the city to keep it surrounded.
Although Ukrainians have fought bravely I think they will unfortunately succumb to Russian tactics of surround and conquer over time. Here is an update on the present situation:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/12/kyiv-ready-to-fight-as-russian-forces-close-in-ukraine-capital (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/12/kyiv-ready-to-fight-as-russian-forces-close-in-ukraine-capital)
Bitterly cold temperatures throughout Ukraine at the moment.
There are 16,000 Syrians who want to fight for Russia against Ukraine and Putin said that they will fight for free....he has been known to lie of course.
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Interview with Stephen Kotkin, a well regarded historian.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/stephen-kotkin-putin-russia-ukraine-stalin
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From reports it looks like there may be a fair chance that chemical weapons may be used in Russia's assault on Kyiv. My guess is that Ukraine has put a lot of its troops in the northern cities knowing that Russia would place a lot of its attack there and try to take Kyiv quickly. I think that is why apart from other reasons that a lot of Russia's advance has been slow in the north of Ukraine as the cities there haven't been falling quickly or easily likely due to a lot of Ukrainian troops being placed in each one. The rest of Ukraine's forces mostly being placed in eastern Ukrainian cities down to Mariupol to stop the Russian advance sweeping across the country from that direction.
Kharkiv for example hasn't yet fallen despite it being very near the border, much nearer than Kyiv, just over the border pretty much. That's likely due to a very large number of Ukrainian troops being placed there. Thinking probably was again they need to hold the Russians back there to avoid them sweeping down across the country and cutting supply lines of many other cities in central Ukraine and possibly taking them.
Kherson seems to have been the one city where the Ukrainian government messed up, it held out a while but then fell, being in the south just up from Crimea it's a pretty strategic city. If there were some troops there they either were killed, fled or went into hiding. Reports from Kherson say that there were never any troops there just 50 - 80 civilians who took up the defence and we're all killed. If anywhere near true then it's a pretty big mess up on troop deployment as even putting a few hundred to a couple of thousand troops there would have helped them to hold out longer.
My guess is that Putin may well use chemical weapons to attack troops in Kyiv and elsewhere as he will probably likely see it as just another way to get rid of them other than the bullet and probably more quickly and mean less of his troops are lost is my thinking. Would be interesting to hear other forum members thoughts on this?
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Russian missile strike less than 15 miles from the Polish border at Yavoriv today.
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Yahoo News is reporting that Putin has arrested the head of the FSB, Sergey Beseda and his deputy, Anatoly Bolyukh.
http://news.yahoo.com/putin-apos-reported-arrest-russian-022103562.html
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Yahoo News is reporting that Putin has arrested the head of the FSB, Sergey Beseda and his deputy, Anatoly Bolyukh.
http://news.yahoo.com/putin-apos-reported-arrest-russian-022103562.html
The article also mentioned that FSB raided the homes of 20 of their own agents in attempt to determine who has been giving info to journalists.
Probably one of the guys is the one Boe and someone else here posted about recently.
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The article also mentioned that FSB raided the homes of 20 of their own agents in attempt to determine who has been giving info to journalists.
Probably one of the guys is the one Boe and someone else here posted about recently.
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There are 16,000 Syrians who want to fight for Russia against Ukraine and Putin said that they will fight for free....he has been known to lie of course.
Well apparently CB about 20,000 Rambo's have gone to fight for Ukraine each one capable of taking on the whole Russian army and winning the war single handedly ;D
Many I guess will be in Kiev already by now awaiting the impending Russian assault on the city.
Some unfortunately looks like they may have not made it if Russian claims are to be believed about 180 of them on the missile strike on the training base near the Russian border:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/13/ukraine-news-russia-war-latest-putin-zelensky-kyiv/
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This is an online diary of a Kyiv resident.
http://www.reddit.com/user/Decent-Stretch4762/comments/t14avb/diary_from_kyiv/
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This is an online diary of a Kyiv resident.
http://www.reddit.com/user/Decent-Stretch4762/comments/t14avb/diary_from_kyiv/
Incredible
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Another good article
http://uscnpm.org/2022/03/12/hu-wei-russia-ukraine-war-china-choice/
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Did you guys believe the media and the American government who initially called the biolabs mis/disinformation? Since they can't hide it anymore, they downplay it. Don't be duped again.
Of course the biolabs are funded by the US government besides private organizations like the SOROS foundation. The media is pure propaganda. The truth can easily be found even on Google, which buries anything that runs against the current narrative.
Here is a 2005 news article stating Obama was involved in getting Ukraine money to create biolabs to handle biological weapons so yes, they are level 4 and can handle the most dangerous pathogens known to man. They are working with military grade biological weapons stating it's for research to benefit mankind. If Putin did and said that, would you believe him? I don't believe the American government. They intentionally put Ukraine in danger using them as a playground for their provocative projects. Obama was also involved in getting funding to China to experiment with Coronaviruses. America has no business outsourcing experiments with the most dangerous pathogens known to man to any country, especially those full of corruption.
http://media.nti.org/pdfs/148_2.pdf
Victoria Nuland from the State Dept. and she was Obama's instrument to fuel the Orange Revolution in Ukraine put out a statement our government is worried about Russia getting their hands on the biolabs. Why? Probably because they're level 4 and probably Russia will obtain evidence that our government doesn't want released to the world. In the video in link below, her body language and voice shows she's very worried.
http://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1501336793941258240?s=21
I'm not for the war but Putin has a right to get involved in making sure weapons grade pathogens aren't being manufactured next door.
How do you guys like those high gas prices making Russian richer funding the war in Ukraine? A barrel of oil was little over $20 at one time in 2020. Now it's 5-6 times as much. So what if a few nations boycott and Russia loses 20% of their sales when they're making 500% more money on 80% of their customers who are still buying? Nations like France already said they can't participate in the boycott since they're too dependent on Russian energy.
If the American government wanted to hurt Russia, we would turn on our oil pumps and pipelines to drive the price of oil so low, Russia couldn't make a profit. We would ask our allies in the Middle East to increase production too. Biden cancelled a couple of dozen jet fighters Poland wanted to send to Ukraine. Our government talks about beating Russia but certain policies are helping Russia. Go figure.
The American government is asking private companies to hurt Russian citizens. No more Coca Cola or Big Macs for them! We've adopted a policy to punish Russia citizens who aren't to blame. It will anger them to the point they may begin to support an escalation of the war. Maybe escalation of this war is our policy too?
Read my past posts and I supported Bush's and Obama's wars. I am not satisfied with the results. I thought we learned a lesson after Vietnam and would get it right. I know people who lived in or lived nearby Libya, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan and they say it's more of a mess AFTER America and NATO got involved. We didn't make those countries better and we certainly didn't bring them Democracy as promised. Afghanis who supported us for 20 years are now getting slaughtered after we abandoned them. I'm afraid the West used Ukraine and it's going to end badly for them too.
America has been involved in non stop wars for over 20 years. We need to stop. Quit supporting our government policies that encourage more war.
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Illia Ponamerenko’s Twitter account. He is in Kyiv “until the bitter end”.
http://mobile.twitter.com/IAPonomarenko?s=20&t=cT3DNRN-NIqv8IntmYP9uQ
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They (Russia) also claim the labs were secretly-funded by the US, a claim easily disproved by a cursory review of the US Embassy's website.
Link to a fact check by BBC News .... http://www.bbc.com/news/60711705 (http://www.bbc.com/news/60711705)
Fact checking sites are a tool media uses to get more of us to believe the propaganda they put out is true.
What that BBC fact checking site and the others don't tell us is the American government deleted pages on their US Embassy website in Ukraine right before putting out propaganda that the American government didn't fund the biolabs.
We are constantly being lied to by our government and our media. The Russian Trump collusion hoax and impeachment circus should've taught us a lesson. Now our government and media wants us to believe we are the good guys engaging in a just war with Russia. Our government wants escalation and needs our support. They can't have any stories out there showing we've been bad to Ukraine and Russia has any valid reason to go to war.
Here are 'some' of the archived pages from the US embassy in Ukraine website. Our government under Obama heavily funded the biolabs right before he supported the Orange Revolution. If I can find these archived pages, so can investigative journalists but instead of revealing the lies of our government, they put out fact checks to get us to believe we have an honest government. We are living in very dangerous times.
http://web.archive.org/web/20170130193016/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-kharkiv-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20210511164310/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-luhansk-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170221125752/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-dnipropetrovsk-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20210506053014/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-vinnitsa-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170221125752/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-dnipropetrovsk-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170207122550/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-kherson-fact-sheet-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170223011502/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-ternopil-fact-sheet-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170208032526/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-zakarpatska-fact-sheet-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170202040923/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-lviv-dl-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170201004446/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-lviv-rdvl-eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170207153023/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-dnipropetrovsk-rdvl_eng.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20170211022339/http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/kiev-ivm-fact-sheet-eng.pdf
There's a lot more bad I can say about what the American government is doing but some people don't want to hear it because it challenges everything they believe in. People need to start waking up to what our government has become before it's too late. Both Republican and Democratic parties are corrupted and need to be overhauled or dismantled.
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Fact checking sites are a tool media uses to get more of us to believe the propaganda they put out is true.
I see you're still digging in the same old hole again, filling it with your conspiracy tripe and topping it off with cop-outs.
Have fun down there.
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Another journalist to follow.
http://mobile.twitter.com/mrsorokaa?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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Apparently Russia and Ukraine are getting close to reaching an agreement in their peace negotiations. I don't believe it and will be very surprised if they do. Today Russian forces shelled the Antonov aircraft factory in Kyiv thereby reducing Ukraine's ability to manufacture or fix aircraft not that I think they are in much of a position to do that at the moment but a strategic target hit nonetheless. Shelling continues on apartment blocks in and around Kyiv and other cities. Mariupol in dire straights.
I personally don't see that Putin can afford to back down at least not without some kind of agreement on what he wants in terms of no NATO in Ukraine, etc. Even then it may be difficult for him to and not end up like Khrushchev after the Cuban Missile Crises being retired off as a result.
While Russian forces haven't started assault Kyiv yet they have likely pretty much encircled it and so with supplies cut off to Kyiv in that respect they then only have to sit it out, though I don't think they will do that alone.
Apparently in Kherson the Russians may try to hold a ballot to make it another breakaway 'peoples republic', nothing like democracy in action lol. That again would be a sign that they have no intention of signing any peace treaty which allows the present Ukrainian government to continue. Russia has had a fair amount of losses getting to where they are so far but I don't think Putin cares about that, there is still the cast bulk of the invasion army left and most of Ukraine's main big cities encircled now. I reckon the Russians are thinking it's just a matter of time before each city capitulates in turn now and is just playing Ukraine along.
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Apartment block in Kiev.next to a school playing field and nowhere near any military ,hit by a Russian missile this morning.
Russia targeting civilians as per usual.
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I just had an idea on how to transfer the Polish Mig-29's to Ukraine.
The US or Poland should just disable the firing controls. Cut a wire or something minor. At that point, the Mig-29's can not be used to fire any weapons. They are no different than any other type of plane.
Then, the non-lethal Mig-29's are given to Ukraine. Ukraine does repairs so the Mig-29's can be weaponized again.
I compare it to taking the firing pin out of a rifle. Because it can't physically fire a bullet, it is no longer legally considered a firearm. If you replace the firing pin, it becomes a firearm again.
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Did you guys believe the media and the American government who initially called the biolabs mis/disinformation? Since they can't hide it anymore, they downplay it. Don't be duped again.
Of course the biolabs are funded by the US government besides private organizations like the SOROS foundation. The media is pure propaganda. The truth can easily be found even on Google, which buries anything that runs against the current narrative.
Somebody like Tulsi Gabbard must really believe that there is something going on wtih biolabs, or why would she make these statements.... I'm having a hard time believing it myself. It's not that I don't think the US would fund weaponized biolabs, because I think we probably would. It's that I have a hard time believing it would be in Ukraine, where it would provide Russia a legitimate reason to destroy it.
Sen. Mitt Romney accused Tulsi Gabbard of 'parroting false Russian propaganda' after her comments on biolabs in Ukraine
....Earlier in the day, Gabbard, who ran for president in 2020, posted a video on Twitter repeating claims about US-funded biolabs in Ukraine. She also appeared on Fox News host Tucker Carlson's show last week and said she was "deeply concerned" about claims of bioweapons in Ukraine.....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-mitt-romney-accused-tulsi-055336362.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-mitt-romney-accused-tulsi-055336362.html)
Fathertime!
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Did you guys believe the media and the American government who initially called the biolabs mis/disinformation? Since they can't hide it anymore, they downplay it. Don't be duped again.
Of course the biolabs are funded by the US government besides private organizations like the SOROS foundation. The media is pure propaganda. The truth can easily be found even on Google, which buries anything that runs against the current narrative.
Here is a 2005 news article stating Obama was involved in getting Ukraine money to create biolabs to handle biological weapons so yes, they are level 4 and can handle the most dangerous pathogens known to man. They are working with military grade biological weapons stating it's for research to benefit mankind. If Putin did and said that, would you believe him? I don't believe the American government. They intentionally put Ukraine in danger using them as a playground for their provocative projects. Obama was also involved in getting funding to China to experiment with Coronaviruses. America has no business outsourcing experiments with the most dangerous pathogens known to man to any country, especially those full of corruption.
http://media.nti.org/pdfs/148_2.pdf (http://media.nti.org/pdfs/148_2.pdf)
Victoria Nuland from the State Dept. and she was Obama's instrument to fuel the Orange Revolution in Ukraine put out a statement our government is worried about Russia getting their hands on the biolabs. Why? Probably because they're level 4 and probably Russia will obtain evidence that our government doesn't want released to the world. In the video in link below, her body language and voice shows she's very worried.
http://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1501336793941258240?s=21 (http://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1501336793941258240?s=21)
I'm not for the war but Putin has a right to get involved in making sure weapons grade pathogens aren't being manufactured next door.
How do you guys like those high gas prices making Russian richer funding the war in Ukraine? [rhetorical foil] A barrel of oil was little over $20 at one time in 2020. Now it's 5-6 times as much. So what if a few nations boycott and Russia loses 20% of their sales when they're making 500% more money on 80% of their customers who are still buying? Nations like France already said they can't participate in the boycott since they're too dependent on Russian energy.
If the American government wanted to hurt Russia, we would turn on our oil pumps and pipelines to drive the price of oil so low, Russia couldn't make a profit. We would ask our allies in the Middle East to increase production too. Biden cancelled a couple of dozen jet fighters Poland wanted to send to Ukraine. Our government talks about beating Russia but certain policies are helping Russia. Go figure.
The American government is asking private companies to hurt Russian citizens. No more Coca Cola or Big Macs for them! We've adopted a policy to punish Russia citizens who aren't to blame. It will anger them to the point they may begin to support an escalation of the war. Maybe escalation of this war is our policy too?
Read my past posts and I supported Bush's and Obama's wars. I am not satisfied with the results. I thought we learned a lesson after Vietnam and would get it right. I know people who lived in or lived nearby Libya, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan and they say it's more of a mess AFTER America and NATO got involved. We didn't make those countries better and we certainly didn't bring them Democracy as promised. Afghanis who supported us for 20 years are now getting slaughtered after we abandoned them. I'm afraid the West used Ukraine and it's going to end badly for them too.
America has been involved in non stop wars for over 20 years. We need to stop. Quit supporting our government policies that encourage more war.
So much nonsense.
The emboldened statement in blue indicate clear bias. That bias undergirds everything else.
The use of "probably" and "if" are indicative of hypotheticals. Those hypotheticals are then drawn out as conclusory, but their underlying basis is NOT supported with facts. Joe Friday would be appalled.
Once again, the arrogance displayed in a post like this TRUMPets the message; "I know the truth and you do not!" It's ludicrous. The danger of these posts is there are small snippets of truth in them, so a casual reader might not bother to pick up on the fact that Russia was claiming these were "secret" weapons biolabs. If they were so secret, why was there public announcement in 2005 and then on the US Embassy website. There was nothing "secret" about them. Remember the Latin phrase Falsus in uno, falsus in ombibus -- false in part, false in whole.
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The US claims China may be willing to arm Russia. This is a token for a paywalled article.
http://archive.ph/ZRtRn
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Somebody like Tulsi Gabbard must really believe that there is something going on wtih biolabs, or why would she make these statements.... I'm having a hard time believing it myself. It's not that I don't think the US would fund weaponized biolabs, because I think we probably would. It's that I have a hard time believing it would be in Ukraine, where it would provide Russia a legitimate reason to destroy it.
Sen. Mitt Romney accused Tulsi Gabbard of 'parroting false Russian propaganda' after her comments on biolabs in Ukraine
....Earlier in the day, Gabbard, who ran for president in 2020, posted a video on Twitter repeating claims about US-funded biolabs in Ukraine. She also appeared on Fox News host Tucker Carlson's show last week and said she was "deeply concerned" about claims of bioweapons in Ukraine.....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-mitt-romney-accused-tulsi-055336362.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-mitt-romney-accused-tulsi-055336362.html)
Fathertime!
Gabbard either has been compromised by, or is an agent for, the Russians. She is the only US politician to have received a donation from a Russian agent.
This is the Twitter account of Ben Collins, a reporter who has been following the biolabs “issue”. He gives a good explanation-
http://tinyurl.com/2p8azrnt
Here is his whole story on the issue-
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/qanon-ukraine-biolabs-russian-propaganda-efforts-boosted-us-far-right-rcna19392
My conclusion is that anyone spreading this lie is either a Russian agent, or a dupe for the Russians.
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The US claims China may be willing to arm Ukraine. This is a token for a paywalled article.
http://archive.ph/ZRtRn
Wife was all in a panic telling me about this.
So thanks for posting this link so I could read.
Not as dire as she thought.
China is denying.
USA (and our group) is to threaten China with consequences if they do provide help to Russia.
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Somebody like Tulsi Gabbard must really believe that there is something going on wtih biolabs, or why would she make these statements....
For one thing-- Ms Gabbard did not say anything about the US has 'weaponized biolabs'. For another-- Mitt Romney has never changed his hum drum asinine position on anything productive.
Gabbard either has been compromised by, or is an agent for, the Russians. She is the only US politician to have received a donation from a Russian agent.
Donation? A big rugged $59?
The woman is an American citizen who is accused of being a Russian agent by who?
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv031422dAPR20220314054505.jpg
Supposedly-- Donald Trump was a Russian agent, Putin's stooge ...accused with no supportive facts.
Has anyone else ever noticed that whenever the Russian Federation has invaded an area....a Democrat was president?
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Gabbard either has been compromised by, or is an agent for, the Russians. She is the only US politician to have received a donation from a Russian agent.
This is the Twitter account of Ben Collins, a reporter who has been following the biolabs “issue”. He gives a good explanation-
http://tinyurl.com/2p8azrnt (http://tinyurl.com/2p8azrnt)
Here is his whole story on the issue-
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/qanon-ukraine-biolabs-russian-propaganda-efforts-boosted-us-far-right-rcna19392 (http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/qanon-ukraine-biolabs-russian-propaganda-efforts-boosted-us-far-right-rcna19392)
My conclusion is that anyone spreading this lie is either a Russian agent, or a dupe for the Russians.
Concur.
I believe there are well-intended Americans, including many veterans, who have seen things they never thought they would see. Some of that has shaken their trust in America. As sad as that may be, more than a few are now allowing themselves to be misled by their disappointment and buying into garbage that is pablum for the weary, but defies critical analysis. Worse, those same starry-eyed youth who fought wars in the name of American virtue, are now falling victim to psychological warfare from legitimate enemies both domestic and foreign.
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For one thing-- Ms Gabbard did not say anything about the US has 'weaponized biolabs'. For another-- Mitt Romney has never changed his hum drum asinine position on anything productive.Donation? A big rugged $59?
The woman is an American citizen who is accused of being a Russian agent by who?
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv031422dAPR20220314054505.jpg (http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv031422dAPR20220314054505.jpg)
Supposedly-- Donald Trump was a Russian agent, Putin's stooge ...accused with no supportive facts.
Has anyone else ever noticed that whenever the Russian Federation has invaded an area....a Democrat was president?
Coincidence or causal?
I see a clear relationship between Olympics events and Putin's aggressions - but again, it is coincidence or causal? And .... does it matter? The aggressions exist regardless.
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The woman is an American citizen who is accused of being a Russian agent by who?
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv031422dAPR20220314054505.jpg (http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv031422dAPR20220314054505.jpg)
Supposedly-- Donald Trump was a Russian agent, Putin's stooge ...accused with no supportive facts.
Has anyone else ever noticed that whenever the Russian Federation has invaded an area....a Democrat was president?
By the US government. She fled back to Russia. That in and of itself is rather telling, IMHO.
I don't think the US government ever alleged Trump was a Russian agent. I do think he is compromised, probably by his own greed. Without oligarch dollars, his empire would be defunct.
You are mistaken about only Democrats being presidents during invasions. G.W. Bush was president when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. George H.W. Bush was president in 1990, when the Transnistria conflict occurred.
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This is a Bloomberg article picked up by Canada's National Post.
http://nationalpost.com/news/world/china-denies-malicious-u-s-reports-that-russia-sought-their-military-aid-for-ukraine-war
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By the US government. She fled back to Russia. That in and of itself is rather telling, IMHO.
I don't think the US government ever alleged Trump was a Russian agent. I do think he is compromised, probably by his own greed. Without oligarch dollars, his empire would be defunct.
You are mistaken about only Democrats being presidents during invasions. G.W. Bush was president when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. George H.W. Bush was president in 1990, when the Transnistria conflict occurred.
I goofed up my link. Should be----
http://www.salon.com/2022/03/11/accused-russian-agent-lobbied-lawmakers-only-donated-to-one-politician-tulsi-gabbard/
A donation from someone made Tulsi a Putin supporter?
So far, the Russians have not conquered Georgia. At least... not so far.
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Gabbard either has been compromised by, or is an agent for, the Russians. She is the only US politician to have received a donation from a Russian agent.
I really don't think Gabbard is either of those. I think she believes she is correct. Why would she believe it is what should be heard.
Maybe she is interested in undermining biden
Fathertime!
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So far, the Russians have not conquered Georgia. At least... not so far.
But they did invade Georgian territory during the Bush administration.
I really don't think Gabbard is either of those. I think she believes she is correct. Why would she believe it is what should be heard.
Maybe she is interested in undermining biden
Fathertime!
When it looks like a duck . . .
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Fact checking sites are a tool media uses to get more of us to believe the propaganda they put out is true.
Politico might be one. They are the first to break their necks jumping in for the liberal cause.
What that BBC fact checking site and the others don't tell us is the American government deleted pages on their US Embassy website in Ukraine right before putting out propaganda that the American government didn't fund the biolabs.
I still didn't see that the bottom was reached concerning Tony Fauci and the Wuhan lab. BTW where is that guy?
We are living in very dangerous times.
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb031422dAPR20220314044504.jpg)
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But they did invade Georgian territory during the Bush administration.
Acknowledged. However--as it turned out.. with his own bare butt hanging out with Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan...Bush was in no position there to paddle the Russians over former Soviet affairs. Also, as with Ukraine today, there was no NATO jurisdiction involved. Will there be? Is NATO as solidly together as Biden says? -----------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NwzfinbXqA
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Another perspective on the evil Kremlin stooge Gabbard.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/tulsi-gabbard-thoughts-biolabs-kremlin-fixated
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Now tell me this is a regime that can coexist with Western business.
http://archive.ph/xrJkM
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I am certain that the pending amount of mass death in Ukraine is going to show something much worse than "property rights" being abridged
see THIS for EXACTLY what it is on the horizon, the worst humaitarian nightmare in Europe since 1945
worse than Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Kosovo, etc....
ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians in Ukraine
when was the last time this happened, and what was it called?
this is 2.0!!!
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Now tell me this is a regime that can coexist with Western business.
http://archive.ph/xrJkM
I don't blame Russia for retaliating on western businesses. Afterall, they (And their people) are having billions frozen or seized around the world by the US and other western countries. I wouldn't expect them to just permit all the western assets within their borders to just be cashed out under these circumstances. I would expect China to also take note and the consequence being less investment in the US. Going forward the US is a less safe investment.
Fathertime!
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Another perspective on the evil Kremlin stooge Gabbard.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/tulsi-gabbard-thoughts-biolabs-kremlin-fixated (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/tulsi-gabbard-thoughts-biolabs-kremlin-fixated)
That certainly puts Lafond's blog into a higher gear...... Former long-shot presidential candidate and congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii is just the latest U.S. politician to seize on debunked, Kremlin-backed conspiracy theories (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/kremlin-birds-biolabs-conspiracy-theory-ukraine) about the supposed existence of U.S.-run bioweapon research labs in Ukraine.
But she’s the first high-profile Democrat to do so.
What started as an InfoWars talking point has been embraced by the Russian and Chinese state media and has morphed in recent days into a full blown right-wing effort to place the blame for President Putin’s deadly war on Ukraine squarely on the shoulders of the U.S. right’s usual cast of enemies, including President Biden and, of course, Anthony Fauci. Kate Riga digs into the madness here (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/qanon-conspiracy-theory-fauci-ukraine-biolabs).
The capsule version of the story so far is this: The right-wing fever swamps in the U.S. have seized on the existence of run-of-the-mill research facilities in Ukraine as the real reason for Putin’s invasion, claiming the U.S. — and Fauci himself! — has been backing the work being done in these laboratories in order to create some sort of new infectious disease bioweapon.
Kate Riga digs into the madness
Kind of verbose isn't she?
Besides... I still cannot find anywhere at all that Tulsi Gabbard has claimed-- "the USA is running BIO-WEAPONS labs in Ukraine".
If toxic crap is somehow released into the area...then criticism will evolve that postulates Russia did it to further magnify this claim.
One thing is for sure...Tony Fauci is in hiatus [hiding for some reason?] __ hide-atus :-\
she’s the first high-profile Democrat to do so.
High profile RINO Romney seems to be leveling the charge as well.....Seeing him go makes my mouth water.
[I am not a Republican]
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instead of a "no-fly zone"
how about an airlift zone for food aid to fly safely into Ukraine
Russia won't allow, because starvation will be their tool to defeat the Ukrainian people and then blame it on Ukrainian leaders...
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http://youtu.be/kSNo2FPQDQw
Slava Ukraini! (Glory to Ukraine!)
Heroyam Slava (Glory to Heroes!)
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I don't blame Russia for retaliating on western businesses. Afterall, they (And their people) are having billions frozen or seized around the world by the US and other western countries. I wouldn't expect them to just permit all the western assets within their borders to just be cashed out under these circumstances. I would expect China to also take note and the consequence being less investment in the US. Going forward the US is a less safe investment.
Fathertime!
Yes, for dictators who launch unprovoked attacks on sovereign nations and their citizenry. If another one of those wants to find safe harbor for their ill gotten gains, they should be mightily concerned about investing in the US. And that's a good thing .
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Yes, for dictators who launch unprovoked attacks on sovereign nations and their citizenry.
Green=opinion...not fact.
Dictators, Putin is president. Xi is president of China. The two nations brought up in the post I made.
Red= Many things can be said, but unprovoked is inaccurate. There was a reason.
If another one of those wants to find safe harbor for their ill gotten gains, they should be mightily concerned about investing in the US. And that's a good thing .
Ill be gotten gains....disputable.
Regarding China, and possibly other nations. After they witness how assets are seized and frozen, they may well decide it would be smarter to invest elsewhere. Their 'ill be gotten gains' have been a pillar of investment money in the USA. Losing future foreign investment would be a sizable blow to our economy.
We shall see if indeed there is a longer term financial consequence to the US. It is clear there is going to be a short term and probably long term consequence to Russia. China is doing nothing but strengthening their position throughout this ordeal.
Fathertime!
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Regarding China, and possibly other nations. After they witness how assets are seized and frozen, they may well decide it would be smarter to invest elsewhere.
As if there was another USA in an alternative universe?
Besides...doesn't China own Wal-Mart? Seems like it.
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Green=opinion...not fact.
Dictators, Putin is president. Xi is president of China. The two nations brought up in the post I made.
1. Red= Many things can be said, but unprovoked is inaccurate. There was a reason.
Ill be gotten gains....disputable.
Regarding China, and possibly other nations. After they witness how assets are seized and frozen, they 2. may well decide it would be smarter to invest elsewhere. Their 'ill be gotten gains' have been a pillar of investment money in the USA. Losing future foreign investment would be a sizable blow to our economy.
We shall see if indeed there is a longer term financial consequence to the US. It is clear there is going to be a short term and probably long term consequence to Russia. China is doing nothing but strengthening their position throughout this ordeal.
Fathertime!
1. A pretext is not the same as a reason. There was no legitimate reason as evidenced by world reaction. There was no provocation outside pretext.
2. Just as stated earlier, a dictator (or any honorific) who is considering investing their funds, ill-gotten or otherwise, into the US while at the same time planning to invade another sovereign country, would be wise to look elsewhere. That is quite intentional.
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Green=opinion...not fact.
Dictators, Putin is president. Xi is president of China. The two nations brought up in the post I made.
Red= Many things can be said, but unprovoked is inaccurate. There was a reason.
Ill be gotten gains....disputable.
Regarding China, and possibly other nations. After they witness how assets are seized and frozen, they may well decide it would be smarter to invest elsewhere. Their 'ill be gotten gains' have been a pillar of investment money in the USA. Losing future foreign investment would be a sizable blow to our economy.
We shall see if indeed there is a longer term financial consequence to the US. It is clear there is going to be a short term and probably long term consequence to Russia. China is doing nothing but strengthening their position throughout this ordeal.
Fathertime!
Yeah, the Yuan is doing really well. [/sarcasm]
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I am certain that the pending amount of mass death in Ukraine is going to show something much worse than "property rights" being abridged
see THIS for EXACTLY what it is on the horizon, the worst humaitarian nightmare in Europe since 1945
worse than Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Kosovo, etc....
ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians in Ukraine
when was the last time this happened, and what was it called?
this is 2.0!!!
This is my fear too....it's happening in Mariupol already.
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Yeah, the Yuan is doing really well. [/sarcasm]
The Yuan isn't doing bad at all.
Their stock market is having a bad day at the moment, because investors are concerned China is going to provide aid to Russia. If aid is provided the US is threatening to 'Sanction' China. If the US actually sanctions China, there will be further consequences from China to the US. If they were sanctioned enough, China could find it in their interests to actually invade Taiwan as they would already be in a financial war.
Fathertime!
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1. A pretext is not the same as a reason. There was no legitimate reason as evidenced by world reaction. There was no provocation outside pretext.
Despite US arm twisting which has coerced some nations, many non western nations aren't reacting very much. Nations are mostly acting in self interest. The Western block, use their influence as a lever for some non western nations, while Russia tries to do the same.
Apparently Russia has drawn a red line with Ukraine, and from their view that was reason enough to do whatever is necessary to keep the region in their orbit, and out of the Wests orbit.
2. Just as stated earlier, a dictator (or any honorific) who is considering investing their funds, ill-gotten or otherwise, into the US while at the same time planning to invade another sovereign country, would be wise to look elsewhere. That is quite intentional.
The US doesn't adhere to a universal moral reason.
It is only the case if the nation to be invaded is a nation that it is in our interests to care about.
Unfortunately for the US, it would be wise for nations to look elsewhere for investment because sanctions are used liberally and sanctions aren't working too well. If sanctions don't work, then what.....
Fathertime!
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The Yuan isn't doing bad at all.
Their stock market is having a bad day at the moment, because investors are concerned China is going to provide aid to Russia. If aid is provided the US is threatening to 'Sanction' China. If the US actually sanctions China, there will be further consequences from China to the US. If they were sanctioned enough, China could find it in their interests to actually invade Taiwan as they would already be in a financial war.
Fathertime!
And if Taiwan is held by china?
As far as China not investing here ,good.
I'm tried of watching our country bought up by foreign entities on the funds we pay them for products/imports.
If you buy more than you produce, it's a transfer of your country's/ citizens weath,
They have been using our wealth transfer to buy the
United states.
We rely on tech industry, to.semi balance this, but becoming a one trick pony was always foolish in the extreme.
:cluebat:
Covid gave us a a small taste of this foolishness,but it's the end game if you keep exporting more dollars than the tangible items your country produces.
In the end there is nothing we need from.China that cant be manufactured here.
Why would we want to transfer wealth?
Obviuosly trade can be positive for both countries ,but an imbalance in who is actually benefiting
has needed a reset for some time.
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As far as China not investing here ,good.
I'm tried of watching our country bought up by foreign entities on the funds we pay them for products/imports.
If you buy more than you produce, it's a transfer of your country's/ citizens weath,
They have been using our wealth transfer to buy the
United states.
We rely on tech industry, to.semi balance this, but becoming a one trick pony was always foolish in the extreme.
:cluebat:
Covid gave us a a small taste of this foolishness,but it's the end game if you keep exporting more dollars than the tangible items your country produces.
In the end there is nothing we need from.China that cant be manufactured here.
Why would we want to transfer wealth?
Obviuosly trade can be positive for both countries ,but an imbalance in who is actually benefiting
has needed a reset for some time.
These are some interesting points!
China and the Chinese are indeed buying a lot here, as are other nation's peoples. A consequence (If we want to call it that) of them no longer buying is a large decrease in the nation's wealth. It is great that the Chinese are paying property tax here on millions and billions of dollars of real estate for example. It transfers wealth back to us! We buy their product and get some money back through taxes and tourism.
Asset prices are up enormously at the moment, that helps drive the consumer economy. A decrease in values can cascade throughout the economy in a bad way. I'm no economist, so this is merely some factors. I think a loss of international demand in our markets would be an overall negative.
I'm not so sure we can actually rustle up the workforce to produce our own products at this point. We would probably need to import labor, and you know how much some conservatives like seeing new immigrants from south of the border!
Fathertime!
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There are currently 6.27 million unemployed in the USA..there's your needed workforce.
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Was China Betting on Russian Defeat All Along?
http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/was-china-betting-on-russian-defeat-all-along/
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There are currently 6.27 million unemployed in the USA..there's your needed workforce.
11.2 million job openings in the USA as of January 2022.
Fathertime!
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Gas war…
check out the tremendous gains that the USA and Canada have made in creating LNG export terminals…
Canada
13 West Coast (British Columbia) Export Terminals
Kitimat LNG
20 Years
10 Mtpa - 1.3 Bcf/d
$15
LNG Canada
40 Years
26 Mtpa – 3.5 Bcf/d
$25-$40
Cedar LNG Project
25 Years
6.4 Mtpa – 0.8 Bcf/d
Orca LNG
25 Years
24 Mtpa – 3.2 Bcf/d
New Times Energy
25 Years
12 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
Kitsault Energy Project
20 Years
20 Mtpa – 2.7 Bcf/d
Stewart LNG Export Project
25 Years
30 Mtpa – 4.0 Bcf/d
Triton LNG (On Hold)
25 Years
2.3 Mtpa – 0.3 Bcf/d
Woodfibre LNG
25 Years
2.1 Mtpa – 0.3 Bcf/d
$1.6
WesPac LNG Marine Terminal
25 Years
3 Mtpa – 0.6 Bcf/d
Discovery LNG
25 Years
20 Mtpa – 2.6 Bcf/d
Steelhead LNG: Kwispaa LNG
25 Years
30 Mtpa – 4.3 Bcf/d
$30
Watson Island
5 East Coast Export Terminals
Goldboro LNG
(Nova Scotia)
20 Years
10 Mtpa – 1.4 Bcf/d
$8.3
Bear Head LNG
(Nova Scotia)
25 Years
12 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
$2-$8
A C LNG
(Nova Scotia)
25 Years
15 Mtpa – 2.1 Bcf/d
$3
Energie Saguenay (Quebec)
25 Years
11 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
$7
Stolt LNGaz (Quebec)
25 Years
0.5 Mtpa – 0.7 Bcf/d
$0.6
Total
216 Mtpa – 29 Bcf/d
The image below shows USAs equally rising potential to replace European Russian gas imports with American/Canadian LNG!!!
a huge shift in economic power for USA and Canada (and Australia!) and HUGE CATASTROPHIC LOSS to Russia
is this part of what the war is REALLY about for Russia, taking ALL of Ukraine's Black Sea Coast, which would eliminate Ukraine as a destination LNG terminal
and would make life more difficult for Romania and Bulgaria to operate LNG terminals without Russian interference
which would add to shipping insurance costs making it more expensive when competing vis-a-vis GazProm
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Gas war… HUGE CATASTROPHIC LOSS to Russia
is this part of what the war is REALLY about for Russia, taking ALL of Ukraine's Black Sea Coast, which would eliminate Ukraine as a destination LNG terminal and would make life more difficult for Romania and Bulgaria to operate LNG terminals without Russian interference
which would add to shipping insurance costs making it more expensive when competing vis-a-vis GazProm
So you are saying the war is about money ?
Have never heard of such a thing !!
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HOW WILL WE REGARD THE RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKAINE IN 20 YEARS ?
IN LIGHT OF THE DEVELOPING CATASTROPHE IN UKRAINE, one wonders if President George W. Bush regrets not having taken a
harder line against Russian President Vladimir Putin when he invaded Georgia in 2008. Or if President Barack Obama wishes he had tried harder to muster the rest of the free world to resist Putin’s annexation of Crimea in 2014.
But that’s the trouble with overused clichés such as “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” They sound surpassingly wise but, in practical terms, they don’t tell us very much about how we should behave now.
Often clichés such as these raise more questions than they answer. If Bush had resisted Putin in 2008 or Obama had in 2014, we do not know whether Russia would be currently residing quietly within its national boundaries or whether we would have already experienced World War
III and would now be facing World War IV, the one that Einstein supposedly said would be “fought with sticks and stones.”
In fact, the best that the cliché might do for us now is to remind us that in 10 or 20 years we may look back on 2022 and wonder why we didn’t act more decisively to prevent a ruthless autocrat from brutally destroying a country with nascent inclinations toward democracy, the rule of law and the free world.
Of course, it’s not as if we’re doing nothing. The sanctions and the military and humanitarian support are damaging the Russian economy and are helping Ukrainians resist the assault on their country.
But few argue that the sanctions are going to be enough to stop Putin. And while military aid is welcomed by the Ukrainians, it may be only enough to help them prolong —rather than win —the war and drive the casualty toll into the many thousands.
Proxy wars never turn out well for the proxies. When we consider this war in 20 years, what will we wish we had done differently?
We may wish that Bush and Obama had been more resistant in 2008 and 2014. Trump’s biggest mistake may have been to encourage Putin with a false equivalency between our nation and his. When a commentator pointed out in 2017 that Putin is a killer, Trump replied: “There are a lot of killers. You think our country’s so innocent?”
And in 20 years will we wish that the Biden administration had made a greater commitment to stopping Putin militarily? My preference is for “soft power” and diplomacy. But it’s a sad fact of history that often only “hard power ” — military force — will stop an autocrat such as Putin.
We must not let our mistakes and failures confuse us about the essential difference between our nation’s commitment to democracy, equality and the rule of law and the brutal totalitarianism currently expressing itself in Ukraine. May we not recognize only 20 years later that it’s a distinction worth fighting for today.
JOHN M. CRISP is an op-ed columnist for Tribune News Service. Email him at jcrispcolumns@gmail.com.
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HOW WILL WE REGARD THE RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKAINE IN 20 YEARS ?
I believe the invasion will be regarded as inevitable and one of Putin's last desperate throes to maintain power. Ultimately, the Russian people realized how badly they were duped and insisted on political change. China gains influence and access to energy and natural resources in the Eastern parts of Russia in compensation for post-war economic support.
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I believe the invasion will be regarded as inevitable and one of Putin's last desperate throes to maintain power. Ultimately, the Russian people realized how badly they were duped and insisted on political change. China gains influence and access to energy and natural resources in the Eastern parts of Russia in compensation for post-war economic support.
Agree that's a likely scenario.
I hope all our relatives survive the transitions
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Gas war…
check out the tremendous gains that the USA and Canada have made in creating LNG export terminals…
Canada
13 West Coast (British Columbia) Export Terminals
Kitimat LNG
20 Years
10 Mtpa - 1.3 Bcf/d
$15
LNG Canada
40 Years
26 Mtpa – 3.5 Bcf/d
$25-$40
Cedar LNG Project
25 Years
6.4 Mtpa – 0.8 Bcf/d
Orca LNG
25 Years
24 Mtpa – 3.2 Bcf/d
New Times Energy
25 Years
12 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
Kitsault Energy Project
20 Years
20 Mtpa – 2.7 Bcf/d
Stewart LNG Export Project
25 Years
30 Mtpa – 4.0 Bcf/d
Triton LNG (On Hold)
25 Years
2.3 Mtpa – 0.3 Bcf/d
Woodfibre LNG
25 Years
2.1 Mtpa – 0.3 Bcf/d
$1.6
WesPac LNG Marine Terminal
25 Years
3 Mtpa – 0.6 Bcf/d
Discovery LNG
25 Years
20 Mtpa – 2.6 Bcf/d
Steelhead LNG: Kwispaa LNG
25 Years
30 Mtpa – 4.3 Bcf/d
$30
Watson Island
5 East Coast Export Terminals
Goldboro LNG
(Nova Scotia)
20 Years
10 Mtpa – 1.4 Bcf/d
$8.3
Bear Head LNG
(Nova Scotia)
25 Years
12 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
$2-$8
A C LNG
(Nova Scotia)
25 Years
15 Mtpa – 2.1 Bcf/d
$3
Energie Saguenay (Quebec)
25 Years
11 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
$7
Stolt LNGaz (Quebec)
25 Years
0.5 Mtpa – 0.7 Bcf/d
$0.6
Total
216 Mtpa – 29 Bcf/d
The image below shows USAs equally rising potential to replace European Russian gas imports with American/Canadian LNG!!!
a huge shift in economic power for USA and Canada (and Australia!) and HUGE CATASTROPHIC LOSS to Russia
is this part of what the war is REALLY about for Russia, taking ALL of Ukraine's Black Sea Coast, which would eliminate Ukraine as a destination LNG terminal
and would make life more difficult for Romania and Bulgaria to operate LNG terminals without Russian interference
which would add to shipping insurance costs making it more expensive when competing vis-a-vis GazProm
Thanks for that summary
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Green=opinion...not fact.
Dictator noun - a political leader who has complete power over a country
Both Putin and Xi appoint the leaders of regions in their respective countries. In Russia, those leaders were elected, but the president took that power from the people, and concentrated it in his own hands.
Putin has jailed or killed opposition party members. He changed the constitution so that he could hang on to power. Russian presidential elections were not open and democratic. Putin and his cabal of former KGB associates have plundered the country's wealth, and created a kleptocracy.
Dissent is met with long jail sentences of death in China. Xi does not allow opposition. When the balance of the politburo finds he is no longer useful, he will disappear. He's not elected by the people.
Based on the above, I think there is a good argument to support the statement they are both dictators.
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Gas war…
check out the tremendous gains that the USA and Canada have made in creating LNG export terminals…
Canada
13 West Coast (British Columbia) Export Terminals
Kitimat LNG
20 Years
10 Mtpa - 1.3 Bcf/d
$15
LNG Canada
40 Years
26 Mtpa – 3.5 Bcf/d
$25-$40
Cedar LNG Project
25 Years
6.4 Mtpa – 0.8 Bcf/d
Orca LNG
25 Years
24 Mtpa – 3.2 Bcf/d
New Times Energy
25 Years
12 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
Kitsault Energy Project
20 Years
20 Mtpa – 2.7 Bcf/d
Stewart LNG Export Project
25 Years
30 Mtpa – 4.0 Bcf/d
Triton LNG (On Hold)
25 Years
2.3 Mtpa – 0.3 Bcf/d
Woodfibre LNG
25 Years
2.1 Mtpa – 0.3 Bcf/d
$1.6
WesPac LNG Marine Terminal
25 Years
3 Mtpa – 0.6 Bcf/d
Discovery LNG
25 Years
20 Mtpa – 2.6 Bcf/d
Steelhead LNG: Kwispaa LNG
25 Years
30 Mtpa – 4.3 Bcf/d
$30
Watson Island
5 East Coast Export Terminals
Goldboro LNG
(Nova Scotia)
20 Years
10 Mtpa – 1.4 Bcf/d
$8.3
Bear Head LNG
(Nova Scotia)
25 Years
12 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
$2-$8
A C LNG
(Nova Scotia)
25 Years
15 Mtpa – 2.1 Bcf/d
$3
Energie Saguenay (Quebec)
25 Years
11 Mtpa – 1.6 Bcf/d
$7
Stolt LNGaz (Quebec)
25 Years
0.5 Mtpa – 0.7 Bcf/d
$0.6
Total
216 Mtpa – 29 Bcf/d
The image below shows USAs equally rising potential to replace European Russian gas imports with American/Canadian LNG!!!
a huge shift in economic power for USA and Canada (and Australia!) and HUGE CATASTROPHIC LOSS to Russia
is this part of what the war is REALLY about for Russia, taking ALL of Ukraine's Black Sea Coast, which would eliminate Ukraine as a destination LNG terminal
and would make life more difficult for Romania and Bulgaria to operate LNG terminals without Russian interference
which would add to shipping insurance costs making it more expensive when competing vis-a-vis GazProm
There's only one LNG terminal, in Saint John NB, and it is for domestic use only. One is being built in Kitmat, BC, but it's been plagued with protests, violence, and destruction of property. The Trudeau government put so many obstacles in place, that none of the other projects will ever get off the ground.
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1. Despite US arm twisting which has coerced some nations, many non western nations aren't reacting very much. Nations are mostly acting in self interest. The Western block, use their influence as a lever for some non western nations, while Russia tries to do the same.
Apparently Russia has drawn a red line with Ukraine, and from their view that was reason enough to do whatever is necessary to keep the region in their orbit, and out of the Wests orbit.
The US doesn't adhere to a universal moral reason.
It is only the case if the nation to be invaded is a nation that it is in our interests to care about.
2. Unfortunately for the US, it would be wise for nations to look elsewhere for investment because sanctions are used liberally and 3. sanctions aren't working too well. If sanctions don't work, then what.....
Fathertime!
1. Use of terms such as "coerced" and "arm-twisting," merely serve to characterize the author's biases.
2. The facts might dispute your claim of "liberal" use of sanctions. In FACT, the US has sanctioned only six (6) countries since 1950. A broader list to include persons sanctioned by the US indicates sanctions implemented to discourage abhorrent actions such as genocide, sex trafficking and undermining a country's sovereignty, among others.
3. If sanctions aren't working too well, why should there be any concern?
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Was China Betting on Russian Defeat All Along?
http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/was-china-betting-on-russian-defeat-all-along/ (http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/was-china-betting-on-russian-defeat-all-along/)
I read it, it confirms my feeling. China is playing a better long term game. They are cunning.
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The number of Russian generals killed during the 2022 invasion of Ukraine suggests that the poor performance of the Russian military required that high-ranking officers put themselves at risk in an effort to achieve military objectives.[
Presented in chronological order based on reporting.
Name Rank Date reported
Andrei Sukhovetsky Major General 3 March 2022[3]
Vitaly Gerasimov Major General 8 March 2022[4]
Andrey Kolesnikov Major General 11 March 2022[2]
Oleg Mityaev Major General 14 March 2022[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_generals_killed_during_the_2022_invasion_of_Ukraine
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1. Use of terms such as "coerced" and "arm-twisting," merely serve to characterize the author's biases.
It's accurate.
1. Use of terms such as "coerced" and "arm-twisting," merely serve to characterize the author's biases.
2. The facts might dispute your claim of "liberal" use of sanctions. In FACT, the US has sanctioned only six (6) countries since 1950.
Around 30 countries actually....
As of June 2021, countries or regions subject to U.S. sanctions (either unilaterally or in part) include the Balkans, Belarus, Burma, Burundi, Central African Republic, Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Nicaragua, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Syria, Ukraine/Russia, Venezuela, Yemen, and Zimbabwe.1
http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0410/countries-sanctioned-by-the-u.s.---and-why.aspx (http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0410/countries-sanctioned-by-the-u.s.---and-why.aspx)
3. If sanctions aren't working too well, why should there be any concern?
If sanctions aren't working too well, a concern is what comes after sanctions mostly don't produce the desired result. In the case of weaker countries, military action is often on the table.
Fathertime!
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The number of Russian generals killed during the 2022 invasion of Ukraine suggests that the poor performance of the Russian military required that high-ranking officers put themselves at risk in an effort to achieve military objectives.[
Presented in chronological order based on reporting.
Name Rank Date reported
Andrei Sukhovetsky Major General 3 March 2022[3]
Vitaly Gerasimov Major General 8 March 2022[4]
Andrey Kolesnikov Major General 11 March 2022[2]
Oleg Mityaev Major General 14 March 2022[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_generals_killed_during_the_2022_invasion_of_Ukraine
Poor battlefield performance is likely cause of death. No one is safe from Putin.
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1. It's accurate.
2. Around 30 countries actually....
As of June 2021, countries or regions subject to U.S. sanctions (either unilaterally or in part) include the Balkans, Belarus, Burma, Burundi, Central African Republic, Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Nicaragua, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Syria, Ukraine/Russia, Venezuela, Yemen, and Zimbabwe.1
http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0410/countries-sanctioned-by-the-u.s.---and-why.aspx (http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0410/countries-sanctioned-by-the-u.s.---and-why.aspx)
3. If sanctions aren't working too well, a concern is what comes after sanctions mostly don't produce the desired result. In the case of weaker countries, military action is often on the table.
Fathertime!
1. I agree, my statement is accurate and your biases are on display.
2. Your cite conflates all sanctions and fails to clearly distinguish the FACT that countries are sanctioned separately from people. That is why the media made such a huge deal about the US choice to sanction Putin personally. However, even your poorly researched cite DOES show that Russia, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Syria and Cuba (the same six I referenced earlier) are the only countries sanctioned since 1950.
3. You would have the reader believe that US applies sanctions "liberally," but the FACTS show a quite measured and reasonable application of sanctions. You would have the reader believe that sanctions aren't effective and/or that the US "often" resorts to military intervention. Prove it. The facts do not support your claim.
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For those who are wondering about the letters (zwasticas) on Russian equipment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(military_symbol)
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The number of Russian generals killed during the 2022 invasion of Ukraine suggests that the poor performance of the Russian military required that high-ranking officers put themselves at risk in an effort to achieve military objectives.[
Presented in chronological order based on reporting.
Name Rank Date reported
Andrei Sukhovetsky Major General 3 March 2022[3]
Vitaly Gerasimov Major General 8 March 2022[4]
Andrey Kolesnikov Major General 11 March 2022[2]
Oleg Mityaev Major General 14 March 2022[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_generals_killed_during_the_2022_invasion_of_Ukraine
How many generals does (did) Russia have?
Ukraine says Russia had 20 generals in the invasion of Ukraine.
Supposedly, Russia has about 55% of its forces in Ukraine. If the officer corps is equally represented, that would mean Russia had about 36 generals.
It is reported that Putin fired 8 of the generals for poor performance in Ukraine. 4 more have been killed.
That's (theoretically) a loss of 30% of his available generals.
Acceptable losses are usually considered 33%. More than 33% losses, and a military unit is not considered combat effective.
Hmm. Is Putin asking China to supply generals? lol
Supposedly, Kadyrov is in Ukraine. Did he come to fill a shortage of generals?
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How many generals does (did) Russia have?
Ukraine says Russia had 20 generals in the invasion of Ukraine.
Supposedly, Russia has about 55% of its forces in Ukraine. If the officer corps is equally represented, that would mean Russia had about 36 generals.
It is reported that Putin fired 8 of the generals for poor performance in Ukraine. 4 more have been killed.
That's (theoretically) a loss of 30% of his available generals.
Acceptable losses are usually considered 33%. More than 33% losses, and a military unit is not considered combat effective.
Hmm. Is Putin asking China to supply generals? lol
Supposedly, Kadyrov is in Ukraine. Did he come to fill a shortage of generals?
Kadyrov holds the rank of Major General in the Russian Armed Forces.
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1. I agree, my statement is accurate and your biases are on display.
No. Your statement is virtually meaningless in the conversation. The US does in fact twist arms and coerce nations to tag along with or suffer consequences.
2. Your cite conflates all sanctions and fails to clearly distinguish the FACT that countries are sanctioned separately from people. That is why the media made such a huge deal about the US choice to sanction Putin personally. However, even your poorly researched cite DOES show that Russia, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Syria and Cuba (the same six I referenced earlier) are the only countries sanctioned since 1950.
I looked back at the original post you referenced. I stated sanctions...YOU added Countries. I can stand by my original statement, sanctions are used often. By YOUR standard a country such as Venezuela hasn't been impacted by sanctions when clearly it has. Currently 30 countries and or it's people are hit with some form of US sanctions. That is a lot. Some probably justifiable, many aren't.
3. You would have the reader believe that US applies sanctions "liberally," but the FACTS show a quite measured and reasonable application of sanctions. You would have the reader believe that sanctions aren't effective and/or that the US "often" resorts to military intervention. Prove it. The facts do not support your claim.
I had to run a dreaded google search. This is the type of lists they all show. The US has dropped bombs all these countries since WWII. You may consider this not much military intervention, but I'd say you are wrong on that one. The US military is active around the globe. 100's of bases across all the continents aren't all there just for the fun of it.
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958 Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s, 2015-
Iran 1987
Korea 1950-53
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011-
Nicaragua 1980s
Pakistan 2003, 2006- Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Syria 2014-
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999
Fathertime!
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No. Your statement is virtually meaningless in the conversation. 1. The US does in fact twist arms and coerce nations to tag along with or suffer consequences.
I looked back at the original post you referenced. 2. I stated sanctions...YOU added Countries. I can stand by my original statement, sanctions are used often. 3. By YOUR standard ...... 4. a country such as Venezuela hasn't been impacted by sanctions when clearly it has. Currently 30 countries and or it's people are hit with some form of US sanctions. That is a lot. Some probably justifiable, many aren't.
I had to run a dreaded google search. This is the type of lists they all show. 5. The US has dropped bombs all these countries since WWII. You may consider this not much military intervention, but I'd say you are wrong on that one. The US military is active around the globe. 100's of bases across all the continents aren't all there just for the fun of it.
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958 Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s, 2015-
Iran 1987
Korea 1950-53
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011-
Nicaragua 1980s
Pakistan 2003, 2006- Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Syria 2014-
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999
Fathertime!
1. Clear statement of bias, unsubstantiated by facts, and undergirding all else in your claim.
2. The clarification of sanctions against countries vs sanctions against persons is necessary, for numerous reasons. The fact remains only six (6) countries have been sanctioned since 1950. That is very far from "liberal" use of sanctioning power.
3. It is not MY standard. It's simply a fact.
4. Among the persons sanctioned in Venezuela are Nicolas Maduro and Antonio Jose Benavides. Both are sanctioned by other countries including those in Latin America. It follows that sanctions against the President and Armed Forces Commander, in addition to many others, will have an effect on the country. The situation in Venezuela is extensive and not topical to this site or topic.
5. Bloviated distraction. Your earlier claim is that a progression from sanctions to military intervention is the norm. That is simply NOT true.
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I read it, it confirms my feeling. China is playing a better long term game. They are cunning.
IIRC Alexander Lebed was cautious against closer ties with China but few Russian politicians since have aired concerns. China will definitely obtain leverage from this.
A bigger issue for the Russian government is the loss of life. Demographics are such that if they lose a significant number of soldiers it will dent their population growth. The replacement rate is nothing like it was post-WW2. Good for young foreign men though (including Chinese)!
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This was an interesting read.
http://mwi.usma.edu/a-ukrainian-insurgency-will-be-long-and-bloody/
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This was an interesting read.
http://mwi.usma.edu/a-ukrainian-insurgency-will-be-long-and-bloody/ (http://mwi.usma.edu/a-ukrainian-insurgency-will-be-long-and-bloody/)
Yep but it goes wrong totally.
"Thomas B. Pepinsky is the Walter F. LaFeber professor of government and public policy at Cornell University and a nonresident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. The views expressed are those of the author and do not reflect the official position of the United States Military Academy, Department of the Army, or Depar tment of Defense."
He betters to sow carots.
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How many generals does (did) Russia have?
Ukraine says Russia had 20 generals in the invasion of Ukraine.
Supposedly, Russia has about 55% of its forces in Ukraine. If the officer corps is equally represented, that would mean Russia had about 36 generals.
It is reported that Putin fired 8 of the generals for poor performance in Ukraine. 4 more have been killed.
That's (theoretically) a loss of 30% of his available generals.
Acceptable losses are usually considered 33%. More than 33% losses, and a military unit is not considered combat effective.
Hmm. Is Putin asking China to supply generals? lol
Supposedly, Kadyrov is in Ukraine. Did he come to fill a shortage of generals?
My guess is that they can always either pull more Generals from elsewhere or promote others to the position of General. A lot of the invasion plan has likely already been decided and it's not going smoothly. However, Russia has still been making inroads into Ukraine they have Ukraine's largest nuclear power plant, they have many of Ukraine major cities surrounded and seem to be moving slowly into Ukraine. Not exactly Blitzkrieg but remember WWII went on for years and we're only about 20 days into the invasion here. I think Russia has suffered unexpected shortcomings. Their tanks and planes could be more easily neutralised than thought so it mostly just leaves their missile launcher vehicles as their main useful bit of kit. So laying seige and pounding the hell out of cities while the city runs out of food, water and electricity becomes the strategy.
Zelensky reckons they are close to a deal with Russia in peace negotiations. I am not so sure, probably just Putin play a game as he tends to do. The value of the ruble had gone up perhaps on that expectation so possibly Putin is holding out the hope for short term economic improvement. All the while Putin is making some small gains on the ground I don't think he will agree to peace.
Putin of course has Chemical and Hyperthermal weapons at his disposal. He hasn't used them yet and remains uncertain whether he will go to those lengths, let's of course hope not.
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1. Clear statement of bias, unsubstantiated by facts, and undergirding all else in your claim.
It doesn't matter if there is bias or not. The fact does remain that the US is willing to coerce nations into coming along with it's policy. You can deny it all you want but it won't change what is actually the case. In the most recent times the policy of twisting arms isn't as effective as it once was.
2. The clarification of sanctions against countries vs sanctions against persons is necessary, for numerous reasons. The fact remains only six (6) countries have been sanctioned since 1950. That is very far from "liberal" use of sanctioning power.
To you it is important if sanctions are against a country or individuals in that country. I don't know that it is that important. If a country were to sanction the top 10 wealthiest or influential people in the US that would be hundreds of billions of dollars under threat. At the moment around 30 countries are impacted by US sanctions. That is liberal use of sanctions.
5. Bloviated distraction. Your earlier claim is that a progression from sanctions to military intervention is the norm. That is simply NOT true.
The US has intervened militarily around the globe.
The US has sanctions on countries, and influential persons in countries around the globe.
Militarism has been a big part of our policy. There is a reason our military budget dwarfs the rest of world by far.
Fathertime!
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Seems the battle for Mariupol isn't going well for the Russian invaders.
According to the Regional Governor cowardly Russian troops have had to take 400 patients and Staff hostage and are holding them in the intensive care Hospital basement.
No wonder Putin is having to lower his demands with his shambolic military having to resort to such tactics...if true.
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1. It doesn't matter if there is bias or not. The fact does remain that the US is willing to coerce nations into coming along with it's policy. You can deny it all you want but it won't change what is actually the case. In the most recent times the policy of twisting arms isn't as effective as it once was.
2. To you it is important if sanctions are against a country or individuals in that country. I don't know that it is that important. If a country were to sanction the top 10 wealthiest or influential people in the US that would be hundreds of billions of dollars under threat. At the moment around 30 countries are impacted by US sanctions. That is liberal use of sanctions.
The US has intervened militarily around the globe.
The US has sanctions on countries, and influential persons in countries around the globe.
3. Militarism has been a big part of our policy. There is a reason our military budget dwarfs the rest of world by far.
Fathertime!
1. Of course it matters. Your anti-US trope is well-documented in previous posts. Any time you use a term/phrase such as "coerce" or "arm-twisting," the fact that the author has a clear anti-US bias is most definitely relevant. Reference my earlier post re Critical Thinking.
2. Of course it's important. The fact that only 6 countries having been sanctioned in more than 70 years is relevant to your accusation of "liberal" use of US sanctions. Notably you focus on alleged "liberal" use of sanctions, i.e. quantity, vice whether the sanctions have inherent merit. You earlier stated "Some probably justifiable, many aren't." That takes us back to your clear bias in #1.
3. It's a damn good thing the US has a strong military. The current debacle in Ukraine is only the latest justification for continued strength.
Finally, your purported nexus from sanctions to military interventions is not supported by FACTS.
The entire anti-US trope is finished on RWD. This site will not be used for that purpose. Expect posts containing that message to be removed.
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Well done Dan.
Those posters who use the unwarranted Russian invasion of Ukraine,in which civilians,including women and children,are being killed or made homeless, as an excuse to try and spin it into the wests fault,whilst not even questioning Putin, are quite frankly nauseating.
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Well done Dan.
Those posters who use the unwarranted Russian invasion of Ukraine,in which civilians,including women and children,are being killed or made homeless, as an excuse to try and spin it into the wests fault,whilst not even questioning Putin, are quite frankly nauseating.
I agree.
The other place is disgusting in the way it has become a mouthpiece for pro Putin propagandists and anti west diatribe.
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My guess is that they can always either pull more Generals from elsewhere or promote others to the position of General. A lot of the invasion plan has likely already been decided and it's not going smoothly. However, Russia has still been making inroads into Ukraine they have Ukraine's largest nuclear power plant, they have many of Ukraine major cities surrounded and seem to be moving slowly into Ukraine. Not exactly Blitzkrieg but remember WWII went on for years and we're only about 20 days into the invasion here. I think Russia has suffered unexpected shortcomings. Their tanks and planes could be more easily neutralised than thought so it mostly just leaves their missile launcher vehicles as their main useful bit of kit. So laying seige and pounding the hell out of cities while the city runs out of food, water and electricity becomes the strategy.
Zelensky reckons they are close to a deal with Russia in peace negotiations. I am not so sure, probably just Putin play a game as he tends to do. The value of the ruble had gone up perhaps on that expectation so possibly Putin is holding out the hope for short term economic improvement. All the while Putin is making some small gains on the ground I don't think he will agree to peace.
Putin of course has Chemical and Hyperthermal weapons at his disposal. He hasn't used them yet and remains uncertain whether he will go to those lengths, let's of course hope not.
Putins war reserves must be getting depleted rapidly given how many areas he’s pounding.
He won’t be able to replenish his munitions as quick as they’re being fired so he must have had a timeline in mind at the commencement of his special military operation invasion.
Of course we know that’s gone by the wayside so small wonder he is negotiating for the best result possible while he still can play the better hand.
I’m still waiting for an explanation of what a hyperthermal weapon is.
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I agree.
The other place is disgusting in the way it has become a mouthpiece for pro Putin propagandists and anti west diatribe.
Yes it is.
Posting on there is akin to trying to hold back the rabid zombiefied pro-Putin horde...with personal insults hurled at anyone who dares to question Putin .
Strange that the vast majority,as on here, choose to live in the west rather than living their dream in Russia eh ? :rolleyes:
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My guess is that they can always either pull more Generals from elsewhere or promote others to the position of General.
No, you can't always pull generals out of thin air. There is a set number of generals that exist. It takes many years of experience to train and develop a general.
Yes, you can take a private and promote him to General, but that doesn't make him a general. They are just a private in a general's uniform. Giving someone a promotion does not give them knowledge, skills, and experience. A promotion is supposed to be evidence of the skills, knowledge, and experience they have.
Promoting an incompetent or under-trained officer to be a General is asking for trouble. They will get the men under them slaughtered.
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Putins war reserves must be getting depleted rapidly given how many areas he’s pounding.
He won’t be able to replenish his munitions as quick as they’re being fired so he must have had a timeline in mind at the commencement of his special military operation invasion.
We're already seeing them use special missiles they have never used before. Some of the missiles had dart objects that are released once missile defenses lock onto the missile. These darts try to confuse the missile defenses. From what I can tell, these darts sound similar to flares or chaff that jet fighters have. They never used these missiles in Syria or anywhere else.
Are they running out of regular missiles, and having to resort to using these? Now that the US and NATO knows about these darts, they can start developing countermeasures. I highly doubt Russia wanted the western world to know about these darts.
Russia fired 30 missiles at the Yaroviv military training center. 22 were intercepted. Supposedly, only 8 missiles hit the base. Were these defensive darts what prevented the missile defenses from stopping the 8 that got through?
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1. Of course it matters. Your anti-US trope is well-documented in previous posts. Any time you use a term/phrase such as "coerce" or "arm-twisting," the fact that the author has a clear anti-US bias is most definitely relevant. Reference my earlier post re Critical Thinking.
No it doesn't matter. I've been fair in how I've characterized US efforts. It does equate to coercion and arm twisting. Not always but often enough to be important.
2. Of course it's important. The fact that only 6 countries having been sanctioned in more than 70 years is relevant to your accusation of "liberal" use of US sanctions. Notably you focus on alleged "liberal" use of sanctions, i.e. quantity, vice whether the sanctions have inherent merit. You earlier stated "Some probably justifiable, many aren't." That takes us back to your clear bias in #1.
You are using the smallest number possible to minimize the US use of sanctions. When the west (And US) has control over financial system, the sanctions have more bite. By sanctioning influential people in countries we consider adversaries we can have a real impact so in that respect the sanctions are similar to sanctioning a country.
The entire anti-US trope is finished on RWD. This site will not be used for that purpose. Expect posts containing that message to be removed.
Your membership will wind up an unbalanced point of view without always keeping in mind that the US has similar strategies as Russia. Done different when possible because we have the financial strength to conduct war in that arena far better than Russia has. You have already been removing many posts you don't think are important. IF the argument is so weak, you shouldn't have to do that. A counterbalancing post does enough.
Fathertime!
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No, you can't always pull generals out of thin air. There is a set number of generals that exist. It takes many years of experience to train and develop a general.
Yes, you can take a private and promote him to General, but that doesn't make him a general. They are just a private in a general's uniform. Giving someone a promotion does not give them knowledge, skills, and experience. A promotion is supposed to be evidence of the skills, knowledge, and experience they have.
Promoting an incompetent or under-trained officer to be a General is asking for trouble. They will get the men under them slaughtered.
Not really talking about taking a private and making him a General but there are other ranks just below a General. Some may be better than the Generals themselves but had others promoted over them based on connections, personal preference, etc. Then of course some Generals may have thinking that is more suited to other ways of warfare, outdated where lower ranks may be more in touch with the form of warfare we are seeing in Ukraine at present.
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with what happened to the FSB, it makes sense that something would also happen with Rosneft
this is from Putin's speech yesterday
The west, Putin said, is betting on the support of a 'fifth column', on "national traitors"... "...on those who make money here, in our country, but live there, and "live" not even in the geographical sense, but in their thoughts, in their consciousness, which is enslaved."
"I don't condemn at all those who have a villa in Miami or on the French Riviera, who cannot do without foie gras, oysters, or so-called 'gender freedoms'. That is absolutely not the problem."
"But, I repeat, the problem is that many of these people are mentally there, not here, not with our people, not with Russia. This is, in their opinion - in their opinion - a sign of belonging to a higher caste, to a higher race.
"Such people are ready to sell their mother, just to be allowed to sit in the hallway of this highest caste. They want to be like it... But they... don't understand that this so-called upper caste needs them only as expendable material to cause maximum damage to our people
But any people, and moreover the Russian people, can always distinguish the true patriots from the scum and traitors, and simply spit them out, like a gnat that accidentally flew into their mouth, spit them out on the panel."
"I am convinced that this natural and necessary self-cleansing of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to meet any challenge."
“the purge” was subtly announced some time ago…
those who had ears, most definitely did listen
this is the reason my daughters are married to Russians
they both wear golden handcuffs, as do I
but we manage to "make ourselves useful"
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Fathertime,
You need to spend less time on what the USA does and more time on what this thread is about.
If you want to rant against the west start a thread about it..instead of polluting this thread.
This thread is called "The struggle for Ukraine " for a reason.
Are there USA forces invading and destroying Ukraine..or are they Russian forces ?
What are your thoughts on Russian forces deliberately targeting Civilian residential areas ?
Do you feel that Putin should feel proud of what he's done in Mariupol,Kharkiv,Sumy,Irpin,Chernihiv and now doing in Kiev ?
Do you feel the west should stand by and watch Russia destroy a country and commit genocide against that countries people ?
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1. No it doesn't matter. I've been fair in how I've characterized US efforts. It does equate to coercion and arm twisting. Not always but often enough to be important.
2. You are using the smallest number possible to minimize the US use of sanctions. When the west (And US) has control over financial system, the sanctions have more bite. By sanctioning influential people in countries we consider adversaries we can have a real impact so in that respect the sanctions are similar to sanctioning a country.
3. Your membership will wind up an unbalanced point of view without always keeping in mind that the US has similar strategies as Russia. Done different when possible because we have the financial strength to conduct war in that arena far better than Russia has.
4. You have already been removing many posts you don't think are important. IF the argument is so weak, you shouldn't have to do that. A counterbalancing post does enough.
Fathertime!
1. You are intentionally re-directing the thread to a focus on your perceptions of US mis-deeds. Your biases are clear. They undermine your arguments.
2. I intentionally pointed you back to the FACTS. You doggedly persist with pursuing your biased agenda.
3. Once again, you fall victim to the use of a logical fallacy, in this case the Appeal to Hypocrisy. Whatever US policies are that parallel Russia, those are irrelevant to events in Ukraine right now.
3a. In terms of unbalanced perspectives, this site has always embraced healthy constructive debate and exchange. The membership is unusually versed in international issues. No one is expected to hide their heads in the sand pertaining to issues affecting the US. The imbalance comes from a shrill few, who, if unfettered, dominate the exchanges with promotion of their agenda which is counter to the mission of the site. That won't stand.
4. The only posts which have been removed are those which were in violation of the RWD Terms of Service. If your goal is to disrupt, the posts will be removed. If your goal is to heckle the membership, the posts will be removed. If your goal is to promote an imbalanced anti-US agenda, the posts will be removed.
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My guess is that they can always either pull more Generals from elsewhere or promote others to the position of General. A lot of the invasion plan has likely already been decided and it's not going smoothly. However, Russia has still been making inroads into Ukraine they have Ukraine's largest nuclear power plant, they have many of Ukraine major cities surrounded and seem to be moving slowly into Ukraine. Not exactly Blitzkrieg but remember WWII went on for years and we're only about 20 days into the invasion here. I think Russia has suffered unexpected shortcomings. Their tanks and planes could be more easily neutralised than thought so it mostly just leaves their missile launcher vehicles as their main useful bit of kit. So laying seige and pounding the hell out of cities while the city runs out of food, water and electricity becomes the strategy.
Zelensky reckons they are close to a deal with Russia in peace negotiations. I am not so sure, probably just Putin play a game as he tends to do. The value of the ruble had gone up perhaps on that expectation so possibly Putin is holding out the hope for short term economic improvement. All the while Putin is making some small gains on the ground I don't think he will agree to peace.
Putin of course has Chemical and Hyperthermal weapons at his disposal. He hasn't used them yet and remains uncertain whether he will go to those lengths, let's of course hope not.
Thermobaric seems to have allegedly been used sparingly and on military targets initially in this war.
Hopefully that's not true,and hopefully they are not used.
They are as bad as it gets conventionally.
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before it switches to nuclear threats
Russia will need to increase its leverage over the West regarding oil…
after all, it's naval base in Syria was setup to support an operation like this
Russia is going to get Iran to block Hormuz and restrict the global flow of oil, doubling the market price which was already doubled…
this will cripple the western industrial economy which is very dependent on oil
it can also do this to pull China in… “so, ya want some low priced oil, my friend? Those raman noodles look de-licious and so do those truck tires, how about a trade, oh and some of those cruise missiles would be oichen hiroshie”
meanwhile, NATO fights Russia, down to the last Ukrainian…
without losing a single NATO soldier, nearly 10% of Russia’s deployed military, has been killed or wounded, and Russia's economy will massively contract…
and Russia's market share of European energy markets is poised to eventually be ZERO!
after this, it’ll just be the USA and China
Russia will have kicked itself to the curb…
expect a period of lawless social collapse on the fringes of Russia, like far east and south…
more anarchy loosed upon the world…
as order is destroyed
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Well done Dan.
Those posters who use the unwarranted Russian invasion of Ukraine,in which civilians,including women and children,are being killed or made homeless, as an excuse to try and spin it into the wests fault,whilst not even questioning Putin, are quite frankly nauseating.
I agree CB. I'm surprised this forum is still called 'Russian' Woman Discussion. Doesn't feel right considering all that has been inflicted by Russians on the poor Ukrainian people I think. It's totally horrifying to see the all the bombings the Russian army is doing on innocent civilians and civilian buildings. Let alone the description of what happening to the poor Ukrainians on the recieving end. I'm just glad I'm not there to see it or be subject to it.
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before it switches to nuclear threats
Russia will need to increase its leverage over the West regarding oil…
after all, it's naval base in Syria was setup to support an operation like this
Russia is going to get Iran to block Hormuz and restrict the global flow of oil, doubling the market price which was already doubled…
this will cripple the western industrial economy which is very dependent on oil
it can also do this to pull China in… “so, ya want some low priced oil, my friend? Those raman noodles look de-licious and so do those truck tires, how about a trade, oh and some of those cruise missiles would be oichen hiroshie”
meanwhile, NATO fights Russia, down to the last Ukrainian…
without losing a single NATO soldier, nearly 10% of Russia’s deployed military, has been killed or wounded, and Russia's economy will massively contract…
and Russia's market share of European energy markets is poised to eventually be ZERO!
after this, it’ll just be the USA and China
Russia will have kicked itself to the curb…
expect a period of lawless social collapse on the fringes of Russia, like far east and south…
more anarchy loosed upon the world…
as order is destroyed
That's a very possible outcome.
I'd say the straight wont be blocked though, an attempt to block it may happen, iran is unpredictable.
It's a tight straight but I though still center international water,? Or the UAE side would be passage. If so blockading it would indeed by sn act of war, of course the misdles they launched at the us consulate in iraq the other was as well.
We may sit in our hands.
But that's likely a huge red line
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I agree CB. I'm surprised this forum is still called 'Russian' Woman Discussion. Doesn't feel right considering all that has been inflicted by Russians on the poor Ukrainian people I think. It's totally horrifying to see the all the bombings the Russian army is doing on innocent civilians and civilian buildings. Let alone the description of what happening to the poor Ukrainians on the recieving end. I'm just glad I'm not there to see it or be subject to it.
There are good Russians out there too....4,300 arrested in Russia for protesting against the war.
Some of the Russian troops will be decent people too..they won't all be inhuman monsters relishing what's going on in Ukraine.
Unfortunately within every group of people you'll get wrong un's and those among the Russian military will enjoy inflicting pain and suffering to Ukrainian civilians with a smirk on their faces...and Putin and his cronies certainly have no souls.
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with what happened to the FSB, it makes sense that something would also happen with Rosneft
this is from Putin's speech yesterday
The west, Putin said, is betting on the support of a 'fifth column', on "national traitors"... "...on those who make money here, in our country, but live there, and "live" not even in the geographical sense, but in their thoughts, in their consciousness, which is enslaved."
"I don't condemn at all those who have a villa in Miami or on the French Riviera, who cannot do without foie gras, oysters, or so-called 'gender freedoms'. That is absolutely not the problem."
"But, I repeat, the problem is that many of these people are mentally there, not here, not with our people, not with Russia. This is, in their opinion - in their opinion - a sign of belonging to a higher caste, to a higher race.
"Such people are ready to sell their mother, just to be allowed to sit in the hallway of this highest caste. They want to be like it... But they... don't understand that this so-called upper caste needs them only as expendable material to cause maximum damage to our people
But any people, and moreover the Russian people, can always distinguish the true patriots from the scum and traitors, and simply spit them out, like a gnat that accidentally flew into their mouth, spit them out on the panel."
"I am convinced that this natural and necessary self-cleansing of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity, cohesion and readiness to meet any challenge."
“the purge” was subtly announced some time ago…
those who had ears, most definitely did listen
this is the reason my daughters are married to Russians
they both wear golden handcuffs, as do I
but we manage to "make ourselves useful"
What a program! The Great Purge again! The fifth column, the velikaya Rodina is back again!
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1. You are intentionally re-directing the thread to a focus on your perceptions of US mis-deeds. Your biases are clear. They undermine your arguments.
2. I intentionally pointed you back to the FACTS. You doggedly persist with pursuing your biased agenda.
3. Once again, you fall victim to the use of a logical fallacy, in this case the Appeal to Hypocrisy. Whatever US policies are that parallel Russia, those are irrelevant to events in Ukraine right now.
3a. In terms of unbalanced perspectives, this site has always embraced healthy constructive debate and exchange. The membership is unusually versed in international issues. No one is expected to hide their heads in the sand pertaining to issues affecting the US. The imbalance comes from a shrill few, who, if unfettered, dominate the exchanges with promotion of their agenda which is counter to the mission of the site. That won't stand.
4. The only posts which have been removed are those which were in violation of the RWD Terms of Service. If your goal is to disrupt, the posts will be removed. If your goal is to heckle the membership, the posts will be removed. If your goal is to promote an imbalanced anti-US agenda, the posts will be removed.
Interesting conversation. It seems one group thinks the other group is bias but they are not. Why is that? Where are you getting your information that leads you to unbiased conclusions?
I've seen so much "disinformation" in the past 4 or so years that makes me wonder why anyone would believe anything coming out of the media. When I say "disinformation", I'm talking about things people were blocked from posting on social media but later came out as true.
Should Ukraine be able to pick and choose it's destination. Absolutely.
Should Ukraine be able to choose whether they want a relationship with the west or with Russia. Absolutely.
Unfortunately, that isn't reality and was never a reality unless the west was going to go to war with Russia.
If you think the West isn't culpable for this than you're showing your bias. Holding the NATO/EU carrot on a stick didn't help Ukraine at all. It just made Ukraine believe they had other options when they didn't. It would have been better for Ukraine if they were told they would never be part of EU/Nato so they could make decisions based on reality.
Weird how Hunter Biden was getting paid all that money from Burisma. Weird how the same people in the Biden administration was also in the Obama administration when Ukraine went into civil war. Now we have harmless bio-labs that they are scared of Russia getting control over. Why are they scared if they aren't bio weapons? Just a bunch coincidences I am sure and probably showing my bias. Just like everyone else has their bias.
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Do you feel that Putin should feel proud of what he's done in Mariupol,Kharkiv,Sumy,Irpin,Chernihiv and now doing in Kiev ?
That's Kyiv.
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According to the Regional Governor cowardly Russian troops have had to take 400 patients and Staff hostage and are holding them in the intensive care Hospital basement.
No wonder Putin is having to lower his demands with his shambolic military having to resort to such tactics...if true.
What is your source? Think for yourself just for a moment. What would the Russian military benefit from doing this? It doesn't make any sense.
It's also contrary to (unverified) reports I have read. Apparently the Azov Battalion are headquartered in the Mariupol Drama Theater and holding civilians hostage in the lobby. They have also, allegedly, occupied two major factories (Ilyich, Azavstal; total 24,000 employees). It has already been demonstrated that the Ukrainian military are taking up positions in civilian locations.
This is not a battle between 'good guys and bad guys'. The Ukrainian military is using guerilla warfare tactics deliberately putting civilians at risk. Foreign mercenaries are being sent to Kyiv with no gear/ammo. It is shambolic. Russia obtains no strategic or tactical benefit from dead civilians, the Ukrainian government does. It's not to say it doesn't happen but wouldn't be central to their planning. It is evident they prefer to lay siege to a city and squeeze it, much like what Krimster was saying.
It's impossible to obtain the truth in the fog of war, but the western narrative is a fairy tale - complete with a Snake Island and "Ghost of Kyiv", LOL. Have the British press reported on all those dead British mercenaries blown up in western Ukraine? LOL, I don't think that is hitting the press...
The hawks at the Pentagon are absolutely love this. Make a killing on arms sales and not put one American soldier at risk. Inflict damage to Russia without directly going to war with them. But at some point the Russian government may decide to put their foot down and drop a nuke in Western Ukraine. Much like the USA in 1945 they'll use the pretext that it was a way to end the conflict sooner than it would have played out. They like using historical references such as the Balkans conflict in the 90s so may decide to "press the button".
The west didn't accept the surrender treaty in 2015 and still won't accept it. The modus operandi of the USA is to drag out the conflict to create a greater number of casualties, because you can stick a fork in Ukraine - it's done.
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Seriously, I'm seeing so much propaganda from both sides that I don't know what to believe. How is everyone figuring out what is real and what isn't?
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Seriously, I'm seeing so much propaganda from both sides that I don't know what to believe. How is everyone figuring out what is real and what isn't?
You have to take all perspectives and then use logic and reasoning (not emotion). The fact that Zelensky has stated Ukraine should drop the idea of NATO membership is to me a sign that they don't have the upper hand in negotiations.
It does appear that the Ukrainian military dropped a cluster bomb on civilians in Donetsk, but it won't appear in western media:
http://thesaker.is/three-important-missile-strikes/
So much for CB's noble freedom fighters...
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You have to take all perspectives and then use logic and reasoning (not emotion). The fact that Zelensky has stated Ukraine should drop the idea of NATO membership is to me a sign that they don't have the upper hand in negotiations.
It does appear that the Ukrainian military dropped a cluster bomb on civilians in Donetsk, but it won't appear in western media:
http://thesaker.is/three-important-missile-strikes/ (http://thesaker.is/three-important-missile-strikes/)
So much for CB's noble freedom fighters...
Zelensky is desperate. Totally understandable. I don't know about that bomb, but we've seen stories coming out that Russia tried to blow up a nuclear plant in Zapo when it didn't happen. They need the west to get involved and will do anything to survive. I don't blame them. Definitely can't trust Putin. That is why I don't know how people are sure of themselves. It does look like quite a few foreigners are getting tricked and signing up for the cause only to find out how bad the situation really is.
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Interesting conversation. It seems one group thinks the other group is bias but they are not. Why is that? Where are you getting your information that leads you to unbiased conclusions?
I've seen so much "disinformation" in the past 4 or so years that makes me wonder why anyone would believe anything coming out of the media. When I say "disinformation", I'm talking about things people were blocked from posting on social media but later came out as true.
Should Ukraine be able to pick and choose it's destination. Absolutely.
Should Ukraine be able to choose whether they want a relationship with the west or with Russia. Absolutely.
Unfortunately, that isn't reality and was never a reality unless the west was going to go to war with Russia.
If you think the West isn't culpable for this than you're showing your bias. Holding the NATO/EU carrot on a stick didn't help Ukraine at all. It just made Ukraine believe they had other options when they didn't. It would have been better for Ukraine if they were told they would never be part of EU/Nato so they could make decisions based on reality.
Weird how Hunter Biden was getting paid all that money from Burisma. Weird how the same people in the Biden administration was also in the Obama administration when Ukraine went into civil war. Now we have harmless bio-labs that they are scared of Russia getting control over. Why are they scared if they aren't bio weapons? Just a bunch coincidences I am sure and probably showing my bias. Just like everyone else has their bias.
I won't go into "disinformation" regarding the press, though I do know a thing or two about disinformation campaigns. I recall back in the mid 1980's, suggesting that Sinyavsky and Daniel, two Soviet "dissidents" were fake trials, and both were KGB agents or affiliated with them. That was not a popular opinion then. But in the early to mid 1990's, when KGB archives were released by Roy Medvedev, that was absolutely correct. My point is, most disinformation isn't particularly sophisticated, and can be recognized.
The West is not culpable. The Ukrainian constitution wasn't written by the West. It was written by a team of diaspora Ukrainians. Two I know who were at the forefront were Bohdan Hawrylyshyn and Halyna Freeland. The US provided funding to build the foundations of government, but it was not the sole source of funds. Early, Soros provided funding, but eventually was thrown out of the country. The Canadian government provided funding. Diaspora Ukrainians provided significant funding, and time. The Ukrainian banking system, for example, was modeled on Canada's system, and Ukrainians came here to work in banks and learn how to operate banks.
I am not suggesting that things were perfect in Ukraine - far from it. It's corrupt, but I think with time, that would have lessened, if Ukraine were to join the EU.
Ukraine may become a part of the EU. NATO was never in the cards. The reality is that Ukraine was moving away from Russia in terms of freedom, and that is what Putin could not abide. That and losing Kyiv.
Hunter Biden is a false canard, misunderstood by most Americans. I have posted in the past about this. It's also irrelevant to the invasion.
As for the biolabs, if one is studying diseases such as H5N1, the pathogens do need to be controlled. That doesn't mean there is a nefarious purpose behind the laboratory.
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What is your source? Think for yourself just for a moment. What would the Russian military benefit from doing this? It doesn't make any sense.
There are live videos from drones.
Apparently the Azov Battalion are headquartered in the Mariupol Drama Theater and holding civilians hostage in the lobby. They have also, allegedly, occupied two major factories (Ilyich, Azavstal; total 24,000 employees). It has already been demonstrated that the Ukrainian military are taking up positions in civilian locations.
The theatre was attacked yesterday, is now rubble, and that rubble is blocking a shelter underneath the theatre. The shelter is where civilians were located. They are now blocked in. That’s coming from German sources, complete with photos.
There is a video of a civilian, hands up, being shot by Russian soldiers. We know as a fact that Russian soldiers shot down 10 civilians lined up to buy bread, and civilians fleeing Irpin, as there are recordings.
This is not a battle between 'good guys and bad guys'. The Ukrainian military is using guerilla warfare tactics deliberately putting civilians at risk. Foreign mercenaries are being sent to Kyiv with no gear/ammo. It is shambolic. Russia obtains no strategic or tactical benefit from dead civilians, the Ukrainian government does. It's not to say it doesn't happen but wouldn't be central to their planning. It is evident they prefer to lay siege to a city and squeeze it, much like what Krimster was saying.
Well, when you invade a country for no good reason, you own every civilian death, whether or not you are the cause. Are you really making this argument?
The hawks at the Pentagon are absolutely love this. Make a killing on arms sales and not put one American soldier at risk. Inflict damage to Russia without directly going to war with them. But at some point the Russian government may decide to put their foot down and drop a nuke in Western Ukraine. Much like the USA in 1945 they'll use the pretext that it was a way to end the conflict sooner than it would have played out. They like using historical references such as the Balkans conflict in the 90s so may decide to "press the button".
Why would the hawks love this? The US military budget is something like $745 billion. The Pentagon isn't benefiting from arms sales. All equipment to Ukraine is paid for by the US government. The one thing this war has proved is that the Russian military is subpar.
The west didn't accept the surrender treaty in 2015 and still won't accept it. The modus operandi of the USA is to drag out the conflict to create a greater number of casualties, because you can stick a fork in Ukraine - it's done.
The same has been said for centuries. Yet, a Ukrainian national identity now exists, and is stronger, after this, than it was before this illegal invasion of a sovereign nation. Had Russia been ruled by someone smarter (who could advance beyond a major in the KGB), they would have sat back and let economic factors work in their favour. Instead, they have created a country where tens of millions will never accept Russia.
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You have to take all perspectives and then use logic and reasoning (not emotion). The fact that Zelensky has stated Ukraine should drop the idea of NATO membership is to me a sign that they don't have the upper hand in negotiations.
It does appear that the Ukrainian military dropped a cluster bomb on civilians in Donetsk, but it won't appear in western media:
http://thesaker.is/three-important-missile-strikes/ (http://thesaker.is/three-important-missile-strikes/)
So much for CB's noble freedom fighters...
Sure. A site that refers to Ukrainians as "nazis" is an absolutely credible source of information. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Here's a more balanced source on the use of cluster bombs. Presently, each side is blaming the other. Russia has used cluster bombs in Ukraine, but the Dontesk attack is still unproven on either side. Hoewever, other cluster munitions have been used in the region by Russia.
http://www.bellingcat.com/news/rest-of-world/2022/03/11/these-are-the-cluster-munitions-documented-by-ukrainian-civilians/ (http://www.bellingcat.com/news/rest-of-world/2022/03/11/these-are-the-cluster-munitions-documented-by-ukrainian-civilians/)
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I will also state that in Kyiv, authorities tell remaining civilians to shelter in bomb shelters. There are warning sirens for incoming missiles, and people are told to stay in place until they receive an all clear. They are being asked not to use cellphones during certain hours, I assume, for military purposes.
The above doesn't sound like a state that would fire on its own civilians.
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There are live videos from drones.
There are live videos from drones of Russians taking civilians as hostages? Haven't seen that. Can you explain to me how it makes sense for the Russian military to take 400 civilians as hostages?
As I said it is impossible to obtain the truth in the fog of war. Neither side have clean skins. The western narrative is clearly tangental. Multiple perspectives need to be considered.
The Ukrainian government has been firing on its citizens for the past eight years. Why do you think they will stop now? Particularly when captured "Ukronazis" will be summarily executed by Russian soldiers.
Tell me, why would the Russian government want to drop a cluster bomb on Donetsk? You're a smart cookie. I'm sure you can either find a logical explanation or realize it was the Ukrainian military?
There are no 'good guys' in this conflict and the Ukrainian leadership has demonstrated a disregard for civilian life. That may not extend to all officials (obviously) but it is intellectually dishonest to ignore the behaviors of the Ukrainian military/SBU, etc.
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The above doesn't sound like a state that would fire on its own civilians.
I presume you live a sheltered existence. Every large government would fire on its own civilians. Nothing new in the USA - look up the Bonus Army. The government fired on veterans! Lots of historical examples in Europe. Even more recently look at the treatment of people in Canada and Australia - supposedly "democratic" countries. Not to mention Maidan snipers... or those in Donbass...
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I won't go into "disinformation" regarding the press, though I do know a thing or two about disinformation campaigns. I recall back in the mid 1980's, suggesting that Sinyavsky and Daniel, two Soviet "dissidents" were fake trials, and both were KGB agents or affiliated with them. That was not a popular opinion then. But in the early to mid 1990's, when KGB archives were released by Roy Medvedev, that was absolutely correct. My point is, most disinformation isn't particularly sophisticated, and can be recognized.
The West is not culpable. The Ukrainian constitution wasn't written by the West. It was written by a team of diaspora Ukrainians. Two I know who were at the forefront were Bohdan Hawrylyshyn and Halyna Freeland. The US provided funding to build the foundations of government, but it was not the sole source of funds. Early, Soros provided funding, but eventually was thrown out of the country. The Canadian government provided funding. Diaspora Ukrainians provided significant funding, and time. The Ukrainian banking system, for example, was modeled on Canada's system, and Ukrainians came here to work in banks and learn how to operate banks.
I am not suggesting that things were perfect in Ukraine - far from it. It's corrupt, but I think with time, that would have lessened, if Ukraine were to join the EU.
Ukraine may become a part of the EU. NATO was never in the cards. The reality is that Ukraine was moving away from Russia in terms of freedom, and that is what Putin could not abide. That and losing Kyiv.
Hunter Biden is a false canard, misunderstood by most Americans. I have posted in the past about this. It's also irrelevant to the invasion.
As for the biolabs, if one is studying diseases such as H5N1, the pathogens do need to be controlled. That doesn't mean there is a nefarious purpose behind the laboratory.
Hi Bo! :)
I was trying to respond and got timed out. lol
"My point is, most disinformation isn't particularly sophisticated, and can be recognized."
I used to think that until the past 4 years. People looked like they lost their minds. People that I thought were intelligent and reasonable. After some time I saw how the media, along with politicians, were all saying the same thing. Even the wording was the same.
If you watch this over and over again you will begin to think the same way. We are assigned our views by what we watch. I don't believe anyone is immune to this type of programming. It's just part of how we are wired to get through day by day. Robert Cialdini wrote some awesome books, on persuasion, talking about this type of stuff
Sorry, I'm not sure what your point about the Ukrainian constitution was. Is a country a country because of a constitution or whether they can defend their country when attacked? I wish we were above all of this violence, but maybe it will never happen.
That brings me to the next point about why I brought up Biden and our politicians. Our funding to other countries tend to make it's way back to our politicians. Either through family members or other means.
I don't think it is irrelevant since we are talking about the same people being in charge as when Ukraine went into civil war. Those military contractors end up hiring our retired generals. America is corrupt. Our system makes it that way and really needs to change. I doubt our elites are doing this to help if there wasn't some kind of incentive for them. Either monetarily or staying in power.
The really weird thing is I saw a clip on Twitter of Alex Jones saying last year there was going to be a major war in February of this year. Still trying to wrap my head around that one. haha
No, the bio labs doesn't necessarily mean nefarious or bio weapons. It also doesn't mean it is being conducted for the benefit of human kind. Why would any country want to be next to that type of lab after Covid killed millions of people. Of course, when people stated Covid came from a lab they were labeled disinformation.
I wonder how the USA would handle Russia conducting "research" in Mexico. I know we didn't like missiles in Cuba even though Cuba should be able to decide for themselves. I don't think it's a stretch to say we should think of others if we want peace. Even brutal dictators like Putin need to be considered.
Poland just outmaneuvered the US. The US tried to push Poland into giving Ukraine MIGS. Poland said they would drop them off at the US base in Germany and they could give the planes to Ukraine. The US decided it was a bad idea after that. Why would the US be ok with Poland doing it but then not do it themselves?
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Sure. A site that refers to Ukrainians as "nazis" is an absolutely credible source of information. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the nazis stuff. Are they talking about that Azov group or are they saying Ukraine government? Also, I've been reading a lot of things about how citizens in the Donbas region having been tortured. Is this true or propaganda? Hard to tell, but I do hope it's just propaganda.
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That's Kyiv.
Wiki says Kyiv OR Kiev.
I prefer Kiev and anyway it's still called Chicken Kiev in the Supermarket here. :)
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Should Ukraine be able to pick and choose it's destination. Absolutely.
Should Ukraine be able to choose whether they want a relationship with the west or with Russia. Absolutely.
Unfortunately, that isn't reality and was never a reality unless the west was going to go to war with Russia.
If you think the West isn't culpable for this than you're showing your bias. Holding the NATO/EU carrot on a stick didn't help Ukraine at all. It just made Ukraine believe they had other options when they didn't. It would have been better for Ukraine if they were told they would never be part of EU/Nato so they could make decisions based on reality.
I totally agree....NATO should hang it's head in shame.
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What is your source? Think for yourself just for a moment. What would the Russian military benefit from doing this? It doesn't make any sense.
It's also contrary to (unverified) reports I have read. Apparently the Azov Battalion are headquartered in the Mariupol Drama Theater and holding civilians hostage in the lobby. They have also, allegedly, occupied two major factories (Ilyich, Azavstal; total 24,000 employees). It has already been demonstrated that the Ukrainian military are taking up positions in civilian locations.
This is not a battle between 'good guys and bad guys'. The Ukrainian military is using guerilla warfare tactics deliberately putting civilians at risk. Foreign mercenaries are being sent to Kyiv with no gear/ammo. It is shambolic. Russia obtains no strategic or tactical benefit from dead civilians, the Ukrainian government does. It's not to say it doesn't happen but wouldn't be central to their planning. It is evident they prefer to lay siege to a city and squeeze it, much like what Krimster was saying.
It's impossible to obtain the truth in the fog of war, but the western narrative is a fairy tale - complete with a Snake Island and "Ghost of Kyiv", LOL. Have the British press reported on all those dead British mercenaries blown up in western Ukraine? LOL, I don't think that is hitting the press...
The hawks at the Pentagon are absolutely love this. Make a killing on arms sales and not put one American soldier at risk. Inflict damage to Russia without directly going to war with them. But at some point the Russian government may decide to put their foot down and drop a nuke in Western Ukraine. Much like the USA in 1945 they'll use the pretext that it was a way to end the conflict sooner than it would have played out. They like using historical references such as the Balkans conflict in the 90s so may decide to "press the button".
The west didn't accept the surrender treaty in 2015 and still won't accept it. The modus operandi of the USA is to drag out the conflict to create a greater number of casualties, because you can stick a fork in Ukraine - it's done.
My source is Sky News,BBC and Euro News.....i did end the post by saying " If True " .
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Should Ukraine be able to pick and choose it's destination. Absolutely.
Should Ukraine be able to choose whether they want a relationship with the west or with Russia. Absolutely.
Unfortunately, that isn't reality and was never a reality unless the west was going to go to war with Russia.
Lots of people try to escape reality.
Of course I agree with what should be, but reality is much different.
Once Russia invaded it seemed pretty clear to me that they would keep escalating.
Fathertime!
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You have to take all perspectives and then use logic and reasoning (not emotion). The fact that Zelensky has stated Ukraine should drop the idea of NATO membership is to me a sign that they don't have the upper hand in negotiations.
It does appear that the Ukrainian military dropped a cluster bomb on civilians in Donetsk, but it won't appear in western media:
http://thesaker.is/three-important-missile-strikes/ (http://thesaker.is/three-important-missile-strikes/)
So much for CB's noble freedom fighters...
Maybe you can explain the cluster bomb dropped by Russia in Kharkiv ?
Yes the Ukrainians ARE fighting for their freedom.
Last time i looked it was Russia invading Ukraine..or maybe you missed that bit.
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Poland just outmaneuvered the US. The US tried to push Poland into giving Ukraine MIGS. Poland said they would drop them off at the US base in Germany and they could give the planes to Ukraine. The US decided it was a bad idea after that. Why would the US be ok with Poland doing it but then not do it themselves?
Why? Because America's political leadership is full of cowards.
There is already precedence for a nuclear power to giving fighter aircraft to another nation that is at war with a different nuclear power.
Remember the Vietnam War? Russia gave North Vietnam tons of weaponry, anti-aircraft defense, and fighter planes to fight the US. A lot of the fighter planes were piloted by Russians. Over 1200 US aircraft got shot down.
We never nuked Russia.
Putin isn't the only one who makes the decision to use a nuclear weapon. There are other individuals involved who know that it would be wrong to attack the US (much less use nukes) if we supplied fighter jets to Ukraine. Yeah, they'd be unhappy about it, but they also know that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. They gave fighter jets to Vietnam to shoot down US aircraft, so they have no room to complain if the US gave jets to Ukraine.
But Biden doesn't have any intestinal fortitude to stand up to a bully. He's a coward.
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Lots of people try to escape reality.
Of course I agree with what should be, but reality is much different.
Once Russia invaded it seemed pretty clear to me that they would keep escalating.
Fathertime!
I was reading an article about Putin and how he was bullied as a kid. He ended up hating bullies and would go after them violently. He's supposedly a narcissist with violent behavior towards bullies. I can see it. I wouldn't be surprised if he views NATO as a bully. I couldn't say if that was what led him to invade Ukraine but I would guess it was part of it. It kind of just seems like he exploded and went all in.
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What is your source? Think for yourself just for a moment. What would the Russian military benefit from doing this? It doesn't make any sense
Seriously you can't see how it would make any sense ?
Imagine you're in a group of Russian soldiers advancing into Mariupol.
You come under heavy fire taking heavy losses..and you see that the Hospital is nearby and gives cover from the incoming Bullets flying around your head.
You and the remaining survivors manage to get to the Hospital ,find staff and patients in there, and hold them hostage against the Ukrainian soldiers or your dreaded Azov Battalion coming in and slaughtering you and your mates...whilst you wait for reinforcements to arrive.
It ain't rocket science :rolleyes:
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Why? Because America's political leadership is full of cowards.
There is already precedence for a nuclear power to giving fighter aircraft to another nation that is at war with a different nuclear power.
Remember the Vietnam War? Russia gave North Vietnam tons of weaponry, anti-aircraft defense, and fighter planes to fight the US. A lot of the fighter planes were piloted by Russians. Over 1200 US aircraft got shot down.
We never nuked Russia.
Putin isn't the only one who makes the decision to use a nuclear weapon. There are other individuals involved who know that it would be wrong to attack the US (much less use nukes) if we supplied fighter jets to Ukraine. Yeah, they'd be unhappy about it, but they also know that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. They gave fighter jets to Vietnam to shoot down US aircraft, so they have no room to complain if the US gave jets to Ukraine.
But Biden doesn't have any intestinal fortitude to stand up to a bully. He's a coward.
You might be right Bee Farmer. Though, if Russia attacked Poland we would have to respond so why would it matter if Poland did it or we did it? Russia knows NATO would have to respond if they went after Poland. That is why it didn't make sense to me to push Poland into doing it.
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Though, if Russia attacked Poland we would have to respond so why would it matter if Poland did it or we did it? Russia knows NATO would have to respond if they went after Poland. That is why it didn't make sense to me to push Poland into doing it.
I don't understand how you think anyone was pushing Poland into giving Ukraine their Migs. That was a no-brainer on Poland's part. Why wouldn't they want to give Ukraine their Migs if they could upgrade to F-16's?
It's surprising to me that anyone would even ask why Poland would transfer the Migs to the US, and then the US would transfer the planes to Ukraine. I'm going to assume that you're not being facetious, so I will answer.
Poland doesn't have a military strong enough to fight Russia on their own. Yes, NATO is required to respond, but by the time NATO reacts, Russia could have inflicted severe damage to Poland and possibly taken control of parts of Poland. Russia has a ton of missiles that can reach Poland. Not only that, once NATO did mobilize, Russia could call for a cease-fire and negotiations. Russia could quite possibly end up getting to keep any territorial gains they had made in Poland. Poland also is not a nuclear power - Russia could theoretically nuke Poland...and then what? (Can the US use nukes in response to a NATO member state being nuked, or can we only use nukes if the US is nuked?)
Keep in mind that NATO is a paper agreement. For the most part (excluding the US) it is a joke, just like the EU military defense. You basically have a group of cheerleaders with pom-poms telling each other that they have their backs. None of them want to fight. They think they can get away with having a weak military, since everyone else will protect them. They aren't bright enough to realize that everyone else thinks the same way and has a weak military too. Without the US military, NATO is meaningless.
Now if US transfers the planes, since America is across the ocean, Russia is more limited in what missiles they could use to attack the US. A land invasion would be almost impossible. Russia's bombers would have a hard time flying to America for bombing runs, assuming they could knock out our air defenses. America is a nuclear power, and can immediately retaliate with nukes in the event of a nuclear attack. If Russia attacked America, we don't need to wait around for NATO bureaucracy to mount a defense. America has enough military force to immediately defend ourselves. For all intents and purposes, America is NATO.
Think of it this way. Imagine a really wimpy kid who has a badass friend. Nobody will mess with that wimpy kid, because they know the friend will protect them. But if that wimpy kid annoys someone bad enough, they will get their butt beat. Yes, the friend may get revenge and beat them up, but the wimpy kid still got a beatdown. Poland doesn't want to be the wimpy kid who gets a severe beating, even if their friend will get revenge afterwards. The damage inflicted can still be quite painful.
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Hey Bee Farmer,
No, I wasn't be facetious. I understand why Poland was interested in giving up the MIGS. Your comment confirmed what it looked like to me. The US was trying to set up Poland to be the scapegoat so to speak. Luckily Poland didn't fall for it and called their bluff as they have a lot more to lose being in harms way.
Regarding the use of nukes... I think if Russia used any nukes to attack Poland it will be instant nuclear war. The US won't sit around and wonder if they are next. I also wouldn't think Russia would stop with Poland anyway.
I appreciate the response from you and others. It helps me see where I might be making mistakes with my thought process.
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my.take:
I think you guys are forgetting Poland borders kaliningrad, russia is on their very doorstep,with military bases there and nuke capable jets etc.
But yes if Russua nuked poland there is zero doubt they would receive in return.
I wonder how the USA would handle Russia conducting "research" in Mexico. I know we didn't like missiles in Cuba even though Cuba should be able to decide for themselves. I don't think it's a stretch to say we should think of others if we want peace. Even brutal dictators like Putin need to be considered.
We did lots of diry deeds in. Cuba, but we did not invade and demilitarize and set up a favourable regime.(although we tried in other.ways)
It would have been easy for us to over run it.
That said the reasons we cared then ,were before the reach of newer ICBMs, and later responce time of defense systems so it was critical the distance missles were located from.a country.
We did secretly agree at that time to pull our nukes out of Turkey, which is really why the standoff deesculated.
Now with the missle reach thats capable and the nuke sub capabilities its really mostly a mute point ,other than missle defense systems reactive times.
I still do not buy that there are u.s. bio weapons/warfare labs in ukraine.
Bio labs yes, bio weapons no.
It makes zero sense to have them.there.
You dont need to develop a deadlier strain of a bio weapon in close proximity to your adversary.
You dont do it in your enemies common language culture. Or doorstep
You do not do so in an unstable area that has on going conflicts,civil war and reasonable chance of the adversary invading.
Its stupid.its beyond stupid.
If russia had proof they would show it.period.
It's a game changer at the negotiation table they attend.daily.
As far as nazism.
There is a azov battalion, that leans neo nazi as part of the.Ukrainian guard, it wascfirmedcas a militia when the.troubles started in donbas.
The separatist troubles were started, stirred,and quickly led by russian funded neo nazi paramilitary groups like wagner pmc,task force ruscich etc, their.leader was a former GRU lieutenant colonel ,and completely neo nazi with ss epilates tattooed in his collar bones. He was decorated at a Kremlin reception for his performance in donbas, so dont let.the nazi claims distract you. Putin is just.fine with using nazis,as long as they are doing his bidding.
The Ukrainian government has been firing on its citizens for the past eight years. Why do you think they will stop now? Particularly when captured "Ukronazis" will be summarily executed by Russian soldiers.
Early in 14 troubles the Russian Wagner pmc burned.and mutilated 17 Ukrainian military soldiers they captured. In.maripol, this is the city the Ukrainian azov battalion sprang up. Was it in responce? So chicken or the egg stiff
Girken, a russian leader also ordered the execution of a regional official, intentional sparking.the entire violent conflict.
As far as *its citizens* you seem.to be implying Russian citizens.
They would be citizens of Ukraine in Ukraine, with russian funded separatist guerillas trying to break away that section.
Ukraine being sovereign had every right to try and put down a russian funded rebellion , people forget it was Ukraine,Ukrainians live.there.
Regardless thier various politucal slants.
The fighting got dirty,civilian casualties happen,sadly and no real.justification on either side for it.
Tell me, why would the Russian government want to drop a cluster bomb on Donetsk? You're a smart cookie. I'm sure you can either find a logical explanation or realize it was the Ukrainian military?
Possibly, but
How many times does Russia need to have knowingly false.flag for that to.also be considered a real possibility .?
How quickly a Malaysian airliner is forgotten.
Or ask.the fins how they got in a war with russia back.in the day without.firing.a shot initially.
As far as Russua possibly targeting ukranian civilians, its fear and intimidation.
Facing a hostile occupation even if temporary, you better get fear of consequences burned into the 40.million populace fast, if you plan to not have anarchy trying to hold it.with.90k troops.
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In many of these discussions, I note efforts to either justify or critique current actions with somewhat similar actions in the past. I've done so as well, so not throwing stones with this post. But I have learned to recognize when I do and think twice before hitting the post button.
I used to balk at history classes in high school, thinking such is useless. Teachers tried to tell me that the value of history is learning from past mistakes. The older I get, the more I agree and am more interested in history today than years ago. It helps provide proper context and the ability to identify and not repeat past mistakes. OTOH I am mistaken when leveraging past history to justify actions that I know are wrong.
In discourse, I find using past mistakes to justify or judge current actions is not constructive and hinders progress. I recognize Ukraine has a checkered history regarding precursors to this crisis, as does Russia, the EU, and the US. Heck, any country for that matter.
For example, Putin's history lesson a short while back, declaring Ukraine is historically a part of Russia and thus does not have the right to be independent. His claim is as absurd as the image below.
(http://i.postimg.cc/rpbL7n9j/589e3a0a-9960-4630-bc1d-f3eacc232b15.jpg)
His claim that he is somehow aiding Ukraine to rid the 'territory' of bad actors is also faulty. There would be very little resistance or need to exert military force if true.
Putin's failure or inability to accept that Ukraine and many former USSR countries are moving on is the root of his perceived problem. It matters not what the US or NATO or China or any other country did or did not do in the past. Having to resort to false propaganda and officially muting opposition voices of citizens in Russia is evidence that more is amiss within than outside RU.
Ukraine did not invade or even present a credible offensive military risk to Russia. Neither does NATO nor the US, who have drawn down forces over past decades. This downsizing trend will reverse now but poses no offensive military threat to Russia. The only encroaching threat that confronts Putin is his dwindling political power and ever-increasing difficulties maintaining his charade.
So yeah, look back in history and learn, but don't let it define the future, which is exactly what Putin is doing.
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In many of these discussions, I note efforts to either justify or critique current actions with somewhat similar actions in the past. I've done so as well, so not throwing stones with this post. But I have learned to recognize when I do and think twice before hitting the post button.
I used to balk at history classes in high school, thinking such is useless. Teachers tried to tell me that the value of history is learning from past mistakes. The older I get, the more I agree and am more interested in history today than years ago. It helps provide proper context and the ability to identify and not repeat past mistakes. OTOH I am mistaken when leveraging past history to justify actions that I know are wrong.
In discourse, I find using past mistakes to justify or judge current actions is not constructive and hinders progress. I recognize Ukraine has a checkered history regarding precursors to this crisis, as does Russia, the EU, and the US. Heck, any country for that matter.
For example, Putin's history lesson a short while back, declaring Ukraine is historically a part of Russia and thus does not have the right to be independent. His claim is as absurd as the image below.
(http://i.postimg.cc/rpbL7n9j/589e3a0a-9960-4630-bc1d-f3eacc232b15.jpg)
His claim that he is somehow aiding Ukraine to rid the 'territory' of bad actors is also faulty. There would be very little resistance or need to exert military force if true.
Putin's failure or inability to accept that Ukraine and many former USSR countries are moving on is the root of his perceived problem. It matters not what the US or NATO or China or any other country did or did not do in the past. Having to resort to false propaganda and officially muting opposition voices of citizens in Russia is evidence that more is amiss within than outside RU.
Ukraine did not invade or even present a credible offensive military risk to Russia. Neither does NATO nor the US, who have drawn down forces over past decades. This downsizing trend will reverse now but poses no offensive military threat to Russia. The only encroaching threat that confronts Putin is his dwindling political power and ever-increasing difficulties maintaining his charade.
So yeah, look back in history and learn, but don't let it define the future, which is exactly what Putin is doing.
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I understand why Poland was interested in giving up the MIGS. Your comment confirmed what it looked like to me. The US was trying to set up Poland to be the scapegoat so to speak. Luckily Poland didn't fall for it and called their bluff as they have a lot more to lose being in harms way.
Where are you coming up with this narrative that the US was trying to set Poland up as a scapegoat? I get the impression that you think the US was trying to instigate Poland into giving Ukraine Migs.
From what I understand some NATO countries (Poland, Hungary, etc.) had expressed a willingness to send Mig-29's to Ukraine along with other military weaponry. But the devil is always in the details. Poland wanted to give Ukraine their Migs, but said it would deplete their air force, and asked the US if they could buy F-16's to backfill and replace the Migs. The Pentagon and US diplomats were in favor of providing F-16's to Poland.
As they worked out final details of how the transfer would be made, Joe Biden turns into a scared chicken and says no to the transfer. He starts spouting garbage about how all decisions have to be made by NATO. He forgets that the US is allowed to act by itself. (It wasn't NATO agreeing to provide F-16's...it was the US.)
I don't know where you come up with the narrative of the US trying to set up Poland. If Biden hadn't said no, the jets would have been transferred to the US at Ramstein and then flown to Ukraine. The only fly in the ointment was Biden.
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my.take:
I think you guys are forgetting Poland borders kaliningrad, russia is on their very doorstep,with military bases there and nuke capable jets etc.
But yes if Russua nuked poland there is zero doubt they would receive in return.
I hear you. That is why I think Poland was smart to do what they did.
I still do not buy that there are u.s. bio weapons/warfare labs in ukraine.
Bio labs yes, bio weapons no.
It makes zero sense to have them.there.
You dont need to develop a deadlier strain of a bio weapon in close proximity to your adversary.
You dont do it in your enemies common language culture. Or doorstep
You do not do so in an unstable area that has on going conflicts,civil war and reasonable chance of the adversary invading.
Its stupid.its beyond stupid.
If russia had proof they would show it.period.
It's a game changer at the negotiation table they attend.daily.
I'd like to know if the US was involved like they were with the Wuhan lab.
As far as nazism.
There is a azov battalion, that leans neo nazi as part of the.Ukrainian guard, it wascfirmedcas a militia when the.troubles started in donbas.
The separatist troubles were started, stirred,and quickly led by russian funded neo nazi paramilitary groups like wagner pmc,task force ruscich etc, their.leader was a former GRU lieutenant colonel ,and completely neo nazi with ss epilates tattooed in his collar bones. He was decorated at a Kremlin reception for his performance in donbas, so dont let.the nazi claims distract you. Putin is just.fine with using nazis,as long as they are doing his bidding.
Sure, Putin probably doesn't care about neo-nazis just like the US doesn't care about arming them when they are advantageous. I'm seeing the same people warning about arming the Azov battalion with modern weapons when Trump was in office only to cheer for it now. It's all political theater man. lol
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So yeah, look back in history and learn, but don't let it define the future, which is exactly what Putin is doing.
History is constantly repeating itself because the actions of certain countries never change. There is a good chance this war could have been stopped before it began. The constant "Russia is bad" thumping from the US politicians makes things worst. Russia is our boogey man that is being used to scare people. Why would Russia not think Nato is a security risk when all they hear, from the US, is how terrible they are and they need to be stopped. We don't have to like Putin, but we sure should try to get along with him. Maybe it wouldn't have changed things, but what I am seeing right now is downright heartbreaking.
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Where are you coming up with this narrative that the US was trying to set Poland up as a scapegoat? I get the impression that you think the US was trying to instigate Poland into giving Ukraine Migs.
From what I understand some NATO countries (Poland, Hungary, etc.) had expressed a willingness to send Mig-29's to Ukraine along with other military weaponry. But the devil is always in the details. Poland wanted to give Ukraine their Migs, but said it would deplete their air force, and asked the US if they could buy F-16's to backfill and replace the Migs. The Pentagon and US diplomats were in favor of providing F-16's to Poland.
As they worked out final details of how the transfer would be made, Joe Biden turns into a scared chicken and says no to the transfer. He starts spouting garbage about how all decisions have to be made by NATO. He forgets that the US is allowed to act by itself. (It wasn't NATO agreeing to provide F-16's...it was the US.)
I don't know where you come up with the narrative of the US trying to set up Poland. If Biden hadn't said no, the jets would have been transferred to the US at Ramstein and then flown to Ukraine. The only fly in the ointment was Biden.
Poland wouldn't do anything without the US approval. The US even threw in some F-16's if Poland would give Ukraine their Migs. Not a bad enticement for Poland to arm Ukraine. The US was in favor of this up until Poland offered to hand over the Migs to the US base in Germany so they could give them to Ukraine . All of a sudden it wasn't a good idea and the US rejected that plan. I'm having a hard time seeing this any other way to be honest.
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As someone posted here before:
During Vietnam, Russia provided planes and even pilots to North Vietnam to attack U.S. forces. We didn't threaten Russia with a nuclear attack and did not conduct a nuclear attack on Russia.
Straight analogy to the current situation of Poland or Poland and U.S. providing planes to heroic Ukrainians.
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I'd like to know why they were there. Was what they were studying only found in Ukraine. It's just strange to be seeing more of these labs pop up after Covid killed so many people.
They are everywhere. Hungary, Poland ,China, etc etc etc
Beo posted links to the contractors website stating they were starting work on one when they got the bid,hardly secret.
Most were prior to covid, but with covid the incredible amount of funding became available to build or update or refurbish most any biolab anywhere to research covid19, so I don't find it the least bit strange.In fact covid upped the need for it dramatically.
Those labs often collaborate amongst many nations on all kinds of work. Dna sequencing ,plant, animal medical research, historical research etc.
The lab in Hungary(?) Subcontractually working on prior soil samples taken in Antarctica, from a China lab (not Wuhan) found sar2/ covid19.
The samples were thought to be cross contaminated at the China lab before transfer. The catch is those samples were transfered pre outbreak. As far.as I've followed they are still working in this,but it's an example of the wide spread collaboration on simple things like soil samples and across thousands of biolabs everywhere.
I find it telling they are claiming multiple bio warfare .
Medical research would have need of many,
exactly how many high security.level bio warfare labs do you need to fund and be effienct in research?
You need a LOT if you want maximum press impact for finding them*
You don't need a dozen in Ukraine, in an unstable area to develope bio weapons
They more they claim found,they more it looks a ploy.
I've stated why I believe Russia is just trying to use this as post justification.
Flash words like nazism,biolab ,nukes.
Gain more traction even if zero actial proof, a grain of evidence of what might be construed as such, is enough to be effective,even if only for a short time.
Continued deflection is about the only game they have media wise, what else would we expect?
I predicted they would *find nuclear labs working on turning nuclear plant fuel into dirty bombs. Another fantasy and unrealistic.
Yet some reports have claimed that now also.
Its absolutely a media and political circus.
Meanwhile peoples lives and livelihoods are destroyed.
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The proposed arms shipments are significantly less provocative than the Soviets killing Americans in North Korea and Vietnam.
http://thefederalist.com/2022/03/10/sending-fighter-jets-to-ukraine-raises-the-specter-of-the-cold-war/
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Appreciate the post Jumper. I'm completely ignorant on these bio-labs. After the covid virus and hearing talk about "gain-of-function" makes my eyebrows raise wondering what the heck is going on. lol
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History is constantly repeating itself because the actions of certain countries never change. There is a good chance this war could have been stopped before it began. The constant "Russia is bad" thumping from the US politicians makes things worst. Russia is our boogey man that is being used to scare people. Why would Russia not think Nato is a security risk when all they hear, from the US, is how terrible they are and they need to be stopped. We don't have to like Putin, but we sure should try to get along with him. Maybe it wouldn't have changed things, but what I am seeing right now is downright heartbreaking.
Yet the only realistic danger to Russia is them being confined to their existing borders.
Should he be.heard? Sure
Where his demands reasonable? no.
This harping of his on Ukraine being eu nato ,is more about russia losing the that sphere of influence .
Nato countries latvia , Estonia ,are already on his border for decades and just as reasonably close to st pete/ Moscow. Notvto.mention kaliningrad surrounded by nato and coexisting fine.
They do not have nuclear missles .
Its unnecessary in thier position and modern times.
I think this is about control of ukraine
( he is pissed its not his puppet) ,the black sea , influence in Europe.
Are those legit Russian concerns?
Sure, but
Only if we negate ukraine being sovereign ,and having the right to
lean towards EU as most eastern European countries have done.
They gave up nukes in a big way for this possibility of continued sovereignty.
I'd be (and am) bitter at all parties involved.
None of this would be going on if the parties had honored the agreement.
Or if Ukraine kept the nukes.
They are the only party that kept thier part of the agreement,one that was already lopsided in the favor of the other signatories.
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Poland wouldn't do anything without the US approval. The US even threw in some F-16's if Poland would give Ukraine their Migs. Not a bad enticement for Poland to arm Ukraine. The US was in favor of this up until Poland offered to hand over the Migs to the US base in Germany so they could give them to Ukraine . All of a sudden it wasn't a good idea and the US rejected that plan. I'm having a hard time seeing this any other way to be honest.
The US did NOT throw in some F-16's if Poland would give their Migs to Ukraine. That is a lie.
NATO had a meeting. They talked about what weaponry Ukraine needed, and the individual member states made a list of what weaponry they had which they would be willing to let Ukraine have.
Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia all had Mig-29 Fulcrums they would be willing to send to Ukraine.
Then they started backpedaling.
Hungary just went silent on the issue.
Slovakia said they would be willing to give their Migs to Ukraine, if they could finalize the details on an agreement for Poland to provide air defense of Slovakia.
Poland said they would give their Migs to Ukraine, but it would deplete their air force, and wanted to know if the US would sell it F-16's to replace the Migs.
The US started scrambling to see if this was possible. The F-16's that Poland already has are older models, and do not have all the updated electronics of the new F-16's. The US had to decide if they would be willing to let Poland have F-16's with newer avionics, or if they would have to remove the newer electronics and replace them with the older versions, and how long it would take to get the older electronics and installed. (I never heard the final decision, if Poland would get newer avionics, or older.) The US finally decided they could sell Poland F-16's to replace the Migs.
As they were finalizing the details of the transfer, Biden said no.
There was no US throwing in F-16's to sweeten the pot to convince Poland to give Ukraine their old Migs. That was something Poland requested after they said they were willing to give their Migs to Ukraine. Even then, the US was reluctant to agree to it, until it could be decided which avionics package we could supply Poland with.
Slovakia and Hungary were originally both open to giving their Migs to Ukraine. I'm sure they would have loved to get F-16's if the US was offering F-16's to make the deal. I have never heard a single report that Slovakia or Hungary ever asked for F-16's, or were offered F-16's.
I don't know why you think Poland needs the US's permission to do anything. This was originally a NATO meeting of member states where Poland offered their Migs to Ukraine. This was not originally a Poland/US discussion about the Migs. The US only became a party to the transaction when Poland asked if the US could replace the Migs with US F-16's.
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The US did NOT throw in some F-16's if Poland would give their Migs to Ukraine. That is a lie.
I appreciate you setting me straight. No need to accuse people of lying.
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Yet the only realistic danger to Russia is them being confined to their existing borders.
Should he be.heard? Sure
Where his demands reasonable? no.
This harping of his on Ukraine being eu nato ,is more about russia losing the that sphere of influence .
Nato countries latvia , Estonia ,are already on his border for decades and just as reasonably close to st pete/ Moscow. Notvto.mention kaliningrad surrounded by nato and coexisting fine.
They do not have nuclear missles .
Its unnecessary in thier position and modern times.
I think this is about control of ukraine
( he is pissed its not his puppet) ,the black sea , influence in Europe.
Are those legit Russian concerns?
Sure, but
Only if we negate ukraine being sovereign ,and having the right to
lean towards EU as most eastern European countries have done.
They gave up nukes in a big way for this possibility of continued sovereignty.
I'd be (and am) bitter at all parties involved.
None of this would be going on if the parties had honored the agreement.
Or if Ukraine kept the nukes.
They are the only party that kept thier part of the agreement,one that was already lopsided in the favor of the other signatories.
I don't know, man, hearing talks about missile defense systems being put near your border isn't something any country would feel comfortable with. We should have tried to deescalated the situation instead of constantly poking the bear. Ukraine definitely should have kept their nukes. I hope other countries realize they need to put themselves first and not rely on someone else coming to their aid. Like I said, this has been ongoing for a long time and now we see people losing their lives over what I believe could have been prevented through diplomacy.
In an ideal world, Ukraine should be able to determine their destiny. I don't see that as reality unless you have the ability to deter thugs like Putin. I definitely pray for Ukraine and hope for the best. I just keep replaying, in my head, how we might have been able to avoid all of this.
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As someone posted here before:
During Vietnam, Russia provided planes and even pilots to North Vietnam to attack U.S. forces. We didn't threaten Russia with a nuclear attack and did not conduct a nuclear attack on Russia.
Straight analogy to the current situation of Poland or Poland and U.S. providing planes to heroic Ukrainians.
It is a decent comparison for a person to make but the reason I don't think it applies directly is the US probably never felt it was backed against a wall. In this situation Russia will feel that they are. It appears Russia will throw everything they have into this war with their neighbor. Vietnam was an obscure country across the globe from the US.
Fathertime!
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I don't know, man, hearing talks about missile defense systems being put near your border isn't something any country would feel comfortable with. We should have tried to deescalated the situation instead of constantly poking the bear. Ukraine definitely should have kept their nukes. I hope other countries realize they need to put themselves first and not rely on someone else coming to their aid. Like I said, this has been ongoing for a long time and now we see people losing their lives over what I believe could have been prevented through diplomacy.
In an ideal world, Ukraine should be able to determine their destiny. I don't see that as reality unless you have the ability to deter thugs like Putin. I definitely pray for Ukraine and hope for the best. I just keep replaying, in my head, how we might have been able to avoid all of this.
Should have, would have, could have, might have .... none of it is useful. Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy directly addresses this line of thinking. More and more it looks like these sorts of analyses are the result of (and contribute to) wide-spread social anxiety. It is not helpful in addressing the here and now with a cold-eyed assessment.
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The US did NOT throw in some F-16's if Poland would give their Migs to Ukraine. That is a lie.
NATO had a meeting. They talked about what weaponry Ukraine needed, and the individual member states made a list of what weaponry they had which they would be willing to let Ukraine have.
Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia all had Mig-29 Fulcrums they would be willing to send to Ukraine.
Then they started backpedaling.
Hungary just went silent on the issue.
Slovakia said they would be willing to give their Migs to Ukraine, if they could finalize the details on an agreement for Poland to provide air defense of Slovakia.
Poland said they would give their Migs to Ukraine, but it would deplete their air force, and wanted to know if the US would sell it F-16's to replace the Migs.
The US started scrambling to see if this was possible. The F-16's that Poland already has are older models, and do not have all the updated electronics of the new F-16's. The US had to decide if they would be willing to let Poland have F-16's with newer avionics, or if they would have to remove the newer electronics and replace them with the older versions, and how long it would take to get the older electronics and installed. (I never heard the final decision, if Poland would get newer avionics, or older.) The US finally decided they could sell Poland F-16's to replace the Migs.
As they were finalizing the details of the transfer, Biden said no.
There was no US throwing in F-16's to sweeten the pot to convince Poland to give Ukraine their old Migs. That was something Poland requested after they said they were willing to give their Migs to Ukraine. Even then, the US was reluctant to agree to it, until it could be decided which avionics package we could supply Poland with.
Slovakia and Hungary were originally both open to giving their Migs to Ukraine. I'm sure they would have loved to get F-16's if the US was offering F-16's to make the deal. I have never heard a single report that Slovakia or Hungary ever asked for F-16's, or were offered F-16's.
I don't know why you think Poland needs the US's permission to do anything. This was originally a NATO meeting of member states where Poland offered their Migs to Ukraine. This was not originally a Poland/US discussion about the Migs. The US only became a party to the transaction when Poland asked if the US could replace the Migs with US F-16's.
Many countries are rushing to provide assistance to Ukraine. In that vein many options are presented and discussed. Deeper analysis parses out some options in favor of better ones. Looking at the transfer of some 25 - 30 MiG29s which were initially commissioned for East Germany when it was still a vassal of the Soviet Union, there were modernization issues to be considered as well as compatibility issues to be sure Ukrainian pilots could fly them, but also so that NATO countries would not misidentify them as enemy.
The question of how effective those fighter/attack aircraft might be in suppression of the current Russian attacks became a major consideration. Russian missile attacks are being launched from Russian aircraft flying in Russian airspace. Ukraine's ability to engage Russian aircraft in Russian airspace is not realistic given Russia's superior air defenses. Notably, a No-Fly Zone over Ukraine would suffer the same limitation as missiles fired from Russian airspace would not be suppressed by a No-Fly Zone over Ukraine. Ukraine reportedly still has more than half of it's fighter/attack aircraft fleet operational. NATO/EU assessment is that Ukraine airspace is at parity even yet. In other words, Ukraine is not yet running short of aircraft to fly sorties. Ukraine already must employ numerous tactics to be able to take to the skies to avoid Russian anti-air systems. Additional aircraft will have little, if any, impact in Ukrainian skies right now. Advanced anti-air systems, however, will be immediately impactful.
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Hi Bo! :)
Nice to "see" you.
I was trying to respond and got timed out. lol
"My point is, most disinformation isn't particularly sophisticated, and can be recognized."
I used to think that until the past 4 years. People looked like they lost their minds. People that I thought were intelligent and reasonable. After some time I saw how the media, along with politicians, were all saying the same thing. Even the wording was the same.
If you watch this over and over again you will begin to think the same way. We are assigned our views by what we watch. I don't believe anyone is immune to this type of programming. It's just part of how we are wired to get through day by day. Robert Cialdini wrote some awesome books, on persuasion, talking about this type of stuff
Sorry, I'm not sure what your point about the Ukrainian constitution was. Is a country a country because of a constitution or whether they can defend their country when attacked? I wish we were above all of this violence, but maybe it will never happen.
Hmmm. I don't watch television news. I read a number of online newspapers (I go directly to their sites), across the spectrum. Relatively few are American, though.
That brings me to the next point about why I brought up Biden and our politicians. Our funding to other countries tend to make it's way back to our politicians. Either through family members or other means.
But Hunter Biden had no role in shielding Burisma's founder from prosecution.
I don't think it is irrelevant since we are talking about the same people being in charge as when Ukraine went into civil war. Those military contractors end up hiring our retired generals. America is corrupt. Our system makes it that way and really needs to change. I doubt our elites are doing this to help if there wasn't some kind of incentive for them. Either monetarily or staying in power.
I would not call 2014 a civil war. If you are referring to driving Yanukovych from power, those were protests, and they were peaceful until Yanukovych ordered police to shoot protestors. That is why he had to flee the country. Had he not turned to violence, he probably would have stayed in power. America had nothing to do with the protests in 2014. They were entirely homegrown.
The really weird thing is I saw a clip on Twitter of Alex Jones saying last year there was going to be a major war in February of this year. Still trying to wrap my head around that one. haha
Even a stopped watch is right twice a day. Or, maybe he is compromised. Zhirinovsky talked about the invasion of Ukraine two years ago, with details that proved true.
No, the bio labs doesn't necessarily mean nefarious or bio weapons. It also doesn't mean it is being conducted for the benefit of human kind. Why would any country want to be next to that type of lab after Covid killed millions of people. Of course, when people stated Covid came from a lab they were labeled disinformation.
Every country with an educated population has bio labs that examine disease and the prevention thereof. In Canada, there are two run by the federal government, and probably many others within university environments. Without these labs, we would not have vaccines. Russia, unlike Ukraine, has actual bioweapon labs.
I wonder how the USA would handle Russia conducting "research" in Mexico. I know we didn't like missiles in Cuba even though Cuba should be able to decide for themselves. I don't think it's a stretch to say we should think of others if we want peace. Even brutal dictators like Putin need to be considered.
It wasn't the US conducting "research". It was Ukrainian scientists, who shared that information, likely with scientists across the world. One of the Canadian labs had a scandal, as two of the Chinese national scientists turned out to be Chinese spies. But the lab wasn't doing bioweapons research. It was more about technology transfer. So, I dismiss this point. Anything that advances humanity should be viewed as such, no matter from where it emanates. krimster had a post about why the US helped set up a lab in Ukraine.
Poland just outmaneuvered the US. The US tried to push Poland into giving Ukraine MIGS. Poland said they would drop them off at the US base in Germany and they could give the planes to Ukraine. The US decided it was a bad idea after that. Why would the US be ok with Poland doing it but then not do it themselves?
I'm not following the point here.
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around the nazis stuff. Are they talking about that Azov group or are they saying Ukraine government? Also, I've been reading a lot of things about how citizens in the Donbas region having been tortured. Is this true or propaganda? Hard to tell, but I do hope it's just propaganda.
The Russians are saying the country is overrun by nazis. Which is untrue, and frankly, absurd.
There is a far right element in Ukraine, but it holds no power. Even the Azov Batallion has only about 20% neo nazis.
There are neo nazis among Russians (such as, is noted here, the Wagner group, whose very name comes from Nazi favoured composer Richard Wagner). There is a far right party with members in the Bundestag in Germany. Heck, there are far right members I'd consider nazis sitting in your Congress. So this is just part of a smearing campaign and a justification to seize real estate.
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Wiki says Kyiv OR Kiev.
I prefer Kiev and anyway it's still called Chicken Kiev in the Supermarket here. :)
Kiev is a Russian spelling and Russian pronunciation. I had a link with the two pronunciations downloaded here for our beloved Sandro.
Anyway, if you want to know why this is important, read the link.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cbc-pronunciation-kyiv-ukraine-crisis-explainer-1.6371766#:~:text=The%20transliteration%20%22Kyiv%22%20was%20legally,name%20of%20its%20capital%20city.
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There are live videos from drones of Russians taking civilians as hostages? Haven't seen that. Can you explain to me how it makes sense for the Russian military to take 400 civilians as hostages?
No, there are drones from windows of the hospital showing Russian soldiers inside.
It doesn't make sense to kill an unarmed civilian with his hands held up above his head, but there's drone footage of Russians shooting such a civilian about a week ago.
It doesn't make sense for Russians to destroy apartment buildings, schools, bakeries with workers inside, or shoot people lining up to buy bread, but they've done all of those things in Ukraine. They did that in Syria, a Putin planned operation bombed a Moscow apartment building to create the impetus for the second Chechen war, and they levelled Grozny, so this is par for the course for the Russian military.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2022/03/16/early-signs-war-crimes-and-human-rights-abuses-committed-russian-military-during
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/16/for-syrian-survivors-russias-tactics-in-ukraine-eerily-similar
As I said it is impossible to obtain the truth in the fog of war. Neither side have clean skins. The western narrative is clearly tangental. Multiple perspectives need to be considered.
No, you are wrong. When you INVADE a sovereign nation, and meet resistance immediately, your perspective is irrelevant.
The Ukrainian government has been firing on its citizens for the past eight years. Why do you think they will stop now? Particularly when captured "Ukronazis" will be summarily executed by Russian soldiers.
Ukraine has responded to banditry on its territory from the criminals of the so called "independent regions". Ask people who escaped there how easy it is to live under that criminal rule.
Tell me, why would the Russian government want to drop a cluster bomb on Donetsk? You're a smart cookie. I'm sure you can either find a logical explanation or realize it was the Ukrainian military?
Why did they want to drop cluster bombs on Syria? Human Rights Watch, which is a neutral observer, documented 47 different cluster bomb attacks on civilian targets by Russian forces in Syria in 2016. The Russians, of course, denied it, but they were proven with remnants and fragmentations.
I would ask you, what would Ukraine gain by bombing people who support them? Civilians are going to know who dropped a bomb, and they know the direction from which missiles originate.
There are no 'good guys' in this conflict and the Ukrainian leadership has demonstrated a disregard for civilian life. That may not extend to all officials (obviously) but it is intellectually dishonest to ignore the behaviors of the Ukrainian military/SBU, etc.
No it isn't. You have zero proof Ukraine is targeting its own civilians. The proof I have is witness accounts and drone footage. When you have evidence the Ukrainian army is killing civilians discriminately, then I will believe it. They're not even shooting looters. Rather, looters are tied to posts, pants around their ankles, and a potato in their mouths for 24 hours.
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I presume you live a sheltered existence. Every large government would fire on its own civilians. Nothing new in the USA - look up the Bonus Army. The government fired on veterans! Lots of historical examples in Europe. Even more recently look at the treatment of people in Canada and Australia - supposedly "democratic" countries. Not to mention Maidan snipers... or those in Donbass...
The Maidan snipers were backed by the Russian government, ordered to kill by a president who was deposed for that very reason.
Donbas was a war created by Russia's GRU.
The Canadian government has not recently fired on protestors. We are not living in the 19th century or WWII.
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Should have, would have, could have, might have .... none of it is useful. Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy directly addresses this line of thinking. More and more it looks like these sorts of analyses are the result of (and contribute to) wide-spread social anxiety. It is not helpful in addressing the here and now with a cold-eyed assessment.
Disagree. If you don't know what led up to this then it's almost impossible to find a solution to end it. Unless you're a war hawk that thinks sanctions and sending military arms is all that needs to be done. It will just get more people killed and this war will continue indefinitely. Just like it's happened in other countries. Of course this is different!
What the sanctions have shown is don't trust the US dollar. And when that stops being the world currency, we are in for a world of hurting.
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Appreciate the reply Bo. I do imagine you have much better sources than I do so maybe it's a lot easier for you to figure out what is disinformation and what isn't. The nazis thing caught me off guard. We are so politically divided here at home that people will make exaggerations to prove the other side wrong. It's difficult to figure out where the truth is at times. I never came across any nazis when I lived in Ukraine. Never heard of them. Then again, we overblow the amount of white supremacist's here, imo. It's a term that has been over used to the point it holds no meaning.
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I hear the demise of the dollar fir decades.
I've yet to hear when it fails,what currency the bulk of the world would trust
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I hear the demise of the dollar fir decades.
I've yet to hear when it fails,what currency the bulk of the world would trust
True, but technology like crypto has entered the room. The US looks to be already working on it's own digital currency.
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Forget the nonsense about bio-labs. I live about 40 miles from a U.S. government bio-lab. Farmers are very grateful for the work they do researching livestock diseases and finding cures. Other bio-labs are working every day testing possible cures for cancer and other diseases.
Slava Ukraini! (Glory to Ukraine!)
Heroyam Slava (Glory to Heroes!)
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1. Disagree. If you don't know what led up to this then it's almost impossible to find a solution to end it.
2. Unless you're a war hawk that thinks sanctions and sending military arms is all that needs to be done.
3. It will just get more people killed and this war will continue indefinitely.
4. Just like it's happened in other countries. Of course this is different!
5. What the sanctions have shown is don't trust the US dollar.
6. And when that stops being the world currency, we are in for a world of hurting.
1. Ruminating over what might have been is a waste of time in determining what must be done NOW to end an unprovoked incursion into a sovereign nation destroying lives of millions.
2. Nope, neither.
3. A bit of that social anxiety displayed.
4. Whatever happened in other countries is irrelevant to this specific situation.
5. Sanctions clearly are having an effect on Russia and will have much more effect as time goes by. Notably, Russia suffers from sanctions instituted by other countries in other currencies.
6. More of that social anxiety.
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Wife read on her info sites about a woman in Ukraine who sent messages to military saying she wanted to join.
She told she had previously served in military and had certificates of her marksmanship, etc.
When asked about her age and what military she had served in, she replied.
I am 98 and served in WWII.
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I hear the demise of the dollar fir decades.
I've yet to hear when it fails,what currency the bulk of the world would trust
Why should the world trust ANY currency? Every single currency that has been previously issued ended up being worthless.
You are better off to trust money. (Currency is not money. It is a substitute for money.)
Maybe the world would go back to using gold and silver coins. (or digital accounts fractionating gold and silver coins.)
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A Russian reporter.
http://mobile.twitter.com/ichbinilya/status/1504619176354320384
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Ukraine’s ‘southern capital’ pleads for help to withstand Putin’s next onslaught
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=http://s3.amazonaws.com/arc-authors/washpost/ee5610cc-21b8-4d4f-bb97-f5ccafae0f8d.png&w=64&h=64)By Josh Rogin (http://www.washingtonpost.com/people/josh-rogin/)
Today at 5:42 p.m. EDT
Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ukraine-russia/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2) is coming soon to the country’s third-largest city, Odessa, often called Ukraine’s “southern capital.” The people of the city are in desperate need of weapons and humanitarian aid to survive the coming onslaught. So far, though, the international community isn’t focused enough on this crucial battle — and the window of opportunity is closing.
Odessa’s mayor, Gennadiy Trukhanov, told me during an interview that he doesn’t know exactly when Russian forces will attack, but ominous signs are everywhere. Russian warships are probing the Black Sea beaches (http://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/03/russian-navy-landing-ships-seen-approaching-ukrainian-coast-near-odessa/) and shelling parts of the coastline, indications an amphibious invasion force might soon be on the way. Ukrainians have tried to mine the beaches, but there aren’t enough mines to go around. Military units are positioned to resist any landing, but Ukrainian forces don’t have enough antiship weapons, such as Harpoon missiles, to keep the Russian fleet at bay.“Our concern is that the city could be surrounded,” said Trukhanov, a former Soviet military officer now leading a city of almost 1 million people preparing to fight. “This is exactly the scenario we are expecting from the enemy.”
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/17/odessa-putin-next-target-needs-help/
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So much nonsense.
The emboldened statement in blue indicate clear bias. That bias undergirds everything else.
The use of "probably" and "if" are indicative of hypotheticals. Those hypotheticals are then drawn out as conclusory, but their underlying basis is NOT supported with facts. Joe Friday would be appalled.
Once again, the arrogance displayed in a post like this TRUMPets the message; "I know the truth and you do not!" It's ludicrous. The danger of these posts is there are small snippets of truth in them, so a casual reader might not bother to pick up on the fact that Russia was claiming these were "secret" weapons biolabs. If they were so secret, why was there public announcement in 2005 and then on the US Embassy website. There was nothing "secret" about them. Remember the Latin phrase Falsus in uno, falsus in ombibus -- false in part, false in whole.
It doesn't matter if you convince people I'm the worst person in the world, the truth is the truth is the truth. The American government, media and fact checking sites have lied to you but you're focused on one guy on the internet who may only influence the minds of a few. The government, media and fact checking sites are influencing the minds of billions. People are dying and our government is lying. Your anger is misplaced. For the time you spent writing a post, you could write a short canned letter and used the links I provided and write to media outlets and fact checking sites telling they are wrong, the American government did fund biolabs in Ukraine. When they fail to make corrections to their articles or fact checks, you will then understand they don't care about the truth. They don't care about YOU. They serve a master that wants a certain narrative projected to accomplish certain goals and the goal may not be peace.
The American government is cleaning up all evidence of funding the biolabs. Biden's State Department is testifying in front of Congress they are afraid of Russia getting their hands on the biolabs? Why? If the biolabs are dealing with low level flu, cold viruses or bacteria or viruses and bacterial that affect animals, Russia doesn't care. They once had and possible still have the world's largest nuclear, chemical, and biological stockpiles. They are pros at making the stuff. Maybe there's something new we created our government is afraid that they'll find. Maybe there will be evidence that a pathogen is to be released like the one in China but this time the Ukrainian people will get infected first. Should I put up a link again to the biolab in Odessa that deals with the plague funded by Soros and other international entities?
Congress controls the purse strings of war. It's why Biden's state department needs to talk to them. Maybe we'll send troops over there not to protect the Ukrainian people but to protect those Deep State project biolabs. Troops may have to die....again due to BS failed foreign policies. Search for old articles and you'll see Russia complaining about the biolabs built in Ukraine and Georgia. America has surrounded them with Biolabs. We could've built them in our country instead of pissing them off. And now we complain they're attacking Ukraine. Russia asked us not to cross certain boundaries but we crossed them anyway...on purpose.
Our government is so corrupt and the media puts out so much propaganda that most people don't know we are in the Supreme Court for election fraud, the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court for election fraud, Wisconsin Congress is seriously talking decertifying the election and recalling their electors and 7 other states are talking about it too. Most of our judges and politicians have been compromised. I'm not sure they're going to take appropriate action. If we don't fix the problems in our country, we won't be capable of fixing Ukraine's problem, especially with a criminal government. I'm not worried about Ukraine being taken over because America has been taken over. We have a chance to correct this. If we don't, you will be witnessing the beginning of the decline of America and our future generations will suffer because we failed.
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Why should the world trust ANY currency? Every single currency that has been previously issued ended up being worthless.
You are better off to trust money. (Currency is not money. It is a substitute for money.)
Maybe the world would go back to using gold and silver coins. (or digital accounts fractionating gold and silver coins.)
The point was the world hasn't been on a gold or silver standards as a means of commerce for decades.
There will likely always be some substitute for that value, and even you brought up crypto based on it. Still a substitute based on a trusted value
During that time I've heard continually of the demise of one.subsitute for another. And despite your comment on trust,
It is exactly what dictates any substitutes value.
Why should we trust the dollar? You can't fully.
But in general
Maybe from.simply lack.of any viable more.trustworthy.substitute yet.after decades
Im.not saying a shift wont.happen
Im.saying the boy has been crying wolf for my lifetime, I suppose we are due the wolf really being there.
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Billy b.
I've worked in biolabs.
You're off base.
Ask that livestock Farmer in georgia, what diesease was isolated and addressed in his herd of sheep.
Just because russia ran with a narrative that fit their objective, doesn't mean their take on it was reality.
Try to remember we dint invade georgia, Russia did.
We did not stir insurgency on our border states, of georgia,and then use that as a justification to recognize them as independent then take military action to invade georgia and secure them. Russia did.
To completely ignore that Russia repeats the big bite ,concession to small bite operation over and over and over, is luducris.
If you are believing in deep-state BS,then russias.MO.is guided.but its still.thier MO.
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It doesn't matter if you convince people I'm the worst person in the world, the truth is the truth is the truth. The American government, media and fact checking sites have lied to you but you're focused on one guy on the internet who may only influence the minds of a few. The government, media and fact checking sites are influencing the minds of billions. People are dying and our government is lying. Your anger is misplaced. For the time you spent writing a post, you could write a short canned letter and used the links I provided and write to media outlets and fact checking sites telling they are wrong, the American government did fund biolabs in Ukraine. When they fail to make corrections to their articles or fact checks, you will then understand they don't care about the truth. They don't care about YOU. They serve a master that wants a certain narrative projected to accomplish certain goals and the goal may not be peace.
The American government is cleaning up all evidence of funding the biolabs. Biden's State Department is testifying in front of Congress they are afraid of Russia getting their hands on the biolabs? Why? If the biolabs are dealing with low level flu, cold viruses or bacteria or viruses and bacterial that affect animals, Russia doesn't care. They once had and possible still have the world's largest nuclear, chemical, and biological stockpiles. They are pros at making the stuff. Maybe there's something new we created our government is afraid that they'll find. Maybe there will be evidence that a pathogen is to be released like the one in China but this time the Ukrainian people will get infected first. Should I put up a link again to the biolab in Odessa that deals with the plague funded by Soros and other international entities?
Congress controls the purse strings of war. It's why Biden's state department needs to talk to them. Maybe we'll send troops over there not to protect the Ukrainian people but to protect those Deep State project biolabs. Troops may have to die....again due to BS failed foreign policies. Search for old articles and you'll see Russia complaining about the biolabs built in Ukraine and Georgia. America has surrounded them with Biolabs. We could've built them in our country instead of pissing them off. And now we complain they're attacking Ukraine. Russia asked us not to cross certain boundaries but we crossed them anyway...on purpose.
Our government is so corrupt and the media puts out so much propaganda that most people don't know we are in the Supreme Court for election fraud, the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court for election fraud, Wisconsin Congress is seriously talking decertifying the election and recalling their electors and 7 other states are talking about it too. Most of our judges and politicians have been compromised. I'm not sure they're going to take appropriate action. If we don't fix the problems in our country, we won't be capable of fixing Ukraine's problem, especially with a criminal government. I'm not worried about Ukraine being taken over because America has been taken over. We have a chance to correct this. If we don't, you will be witnessing the beginning of the decline of America and our future generations will suffer because we failed.
Not even going to make the effort to deconstruct that nonsense.
Billy, you clearly believe the garbage you are spouting. Like any zealot, you are prepared to sacrifice for your beliefs, no matter how ludicrous they may be.
So be it.
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Not even going to make the effort to deconstruct that nonsense.
Billy, you clearly believe the garbage you are spouting. Like any zealot, you are prepared to sacrifice for your beliefs, no matter how ludicrous they may be.
So be it.
Amen. Garbage says as garbage does.
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A Russian reporter.
http://mobile.twitter.com/ichbinilya/status/1504619176354320384 (http://mobile.twitter.com/ichbinilya/status/1504619176354320384)
Very very interesting. I would say it even makes me wonder about my personal projects and my communication.
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Not even going to make the effort to deconstruct that nonsense.
Repeated many times before, Billy's post has already been thoroughly deconstructed. All that remains is a bucket built of logical fallacies that hold no water.
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Very very interesting. I would say it even makes me wonder about my personal projects and my communication.
It seems older and ill educated individuals are the most likely to support Putin.
Here’s a piece on biolabs.
http://theintercept.com/2022/03/17/russia-ukraine-bioweapons-misinformation/
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Another interesting article, from a Russian military expert.
http://russiandefpolicy.com/2022/02/07/mass-fire-strike-on-ukraine/
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I have no clue if this is true or disinformation, but it’s an interesting, if rambling, read
http://m.facebook.com/vladimir.osechkin/posts/4811633942268327
Source where I encountered it.
http://mobile.twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1500196510054637569
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This is the experience of a family fleeing Mariupol.
http://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1504579756221558792.html
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The point was the world hasn't been on a gold or silver standards as a means of commerce for decades.
There will likely always be some substitute for that value, and even you brought up crypto based on it. Still a substitute based on a trusted value
During that time I've heard continually of the demise of one.subsitute for another. And despite your comment on trust,
It is exactly what dictates any substitutes value.
Why should we trust the dollar? You can't fully.
But in general
Maybe from.simply lack.of any viable more.trustworthy.substitute yet.after decades
Im.not saying a shift wont.happen
Im.saying the boy has been crying wolf for my lifetime, I suppose we are due the wolf really being there.
I did NOT bring up crypto based on gold. I brought up digital accounts. For example, you would deposit an ounce of gold in an account, and then use a debit card that would allow you to spend a fraction of that gold.
If trust is what substitutes for money is based on, then why are we using any substitutes?
Gold is a viable substitute for the US dollar, because gold is money. The US dollar USED to be backed by gold, and it is riding on its reputation. (Politicians don't like gold because it is easier to get money for their projects by inflating the money supply, and you can't print gold out of thin air.)
Money has 5 mandatory attributes. (Anything that lacks even one characteristic will fail.)
Consistent
Convenient
Durable
Divisable
Has intrinsic value
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A reporter’s view of the Russian advance so far
http://newlinesmag.com/first-person/putins-killing-machine-that-isnt-working/
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No, you are wrong. When you INVADE a sovereign nation, and meet resistance immediately, your perspective is irrelevant.
When you threaten a nation with military action (Ukraine had such an official policy), seek to join a powerful military alliance, and express the desire to obtain nuclear weapons don't expect that there will be no consequences.
Why did they want to drop cluster bombs on Syria?
To achieve their political and military objectives. What political or military objectives would Russia gain by bombing Donetsk? The apartment bombings in 1999 supported political and military objectives. I fail to see how this in any way benefits the Russian government.
I would ask you, what would Ukraine gain by bombing people who support them?
People in Donetsk support Ukraine? WTF?
You have zero proof Ukraine is targeting its own civilians.
I said disregard for civilians, not 'targeting'. But as you asked for proof:
http://youtu.be/xxySI3HV8YY
I suppose you'll say this is fake and propaganda too. The virtuous, benevolent Ukrainian military would never do such a thing. :rolleyes:
Good luck with being a mercenary, cannon fodder: http://www.tiktok.com/@salceyy2/video/7075303241231224107
Even Mr Potato Head (Lukashenko) has stated the truth - either Kyiv signs a peace agreement or a surrender. I don't think you've figured that out yet because of your understandable hatred of the Russian government.
You keep sharing western commentary. It's biased as heck. The truth lies between what you're reading and what gets published in Russia.
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People in Donetsk support Ukraine? WTF?
Donetsk city and east, no personal experience.
Donetsk region, many do despite speaking Russian and of Russian heritage. This is from personal experience.
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When you threaten a nation with military action (Ukraine had such an official policy), seek to join a powerful military alliance, and express the desire to obtain nuclear weapons don't expect that there will be no consequences.
When did Ukraine threaten another nation with military action?
What official policy are you referring to?
Any country is allowed to join military alliances, and no outside country has ANY say in the matter. NONE. Furthermore, it would be inappropriate for any outside country to oppose it.
When did Ukraine express the desire to obtain nuclear weapons? (After the invasion, they did say the Budapest memorandum was a mistake, because the signatories did not keep their word.) Ukraine actually expressed a desire to not have nuclear weapons, as evidenced by their voluntarily giving up the nuclear weapons they inherited after the Soviet Union fell apart.
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When did Ukraine threaten another nation with military action?
What official policy are you referring to?
Any country is allowed to join military alliances, and no outside country has ANY say in the matter. NONE. Furthermore, it would be inappropriate for any outside country to oppose it.
When did Ukraine express the desire to obtain nuclear weapons? (After the invasion, they did say the Budapest memorandum was a mistake, because the signatories did not keep their word.) Ukraine actually expressed a desire to not have nuclear weapons, as evidenced by their voluntarily giving up the nuclear weapons they inherited after the Soviet Union fell apart.
:cluebat: Arguing with a brainwashed Putintroll like rwd, oh good luck!
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:cluebat: Arguing with a brainwashed Putintroll like rwd, oh good luck!
You've also noticed what he is then .
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Hacker group "Anonymous " has declared war on Russia and has interrupted several Russian state TV broadcasts.
They are targeting Putin.
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You've also noticed what he is then .
uhh yeah, with white, blue and red colors in his eyes, humming the russian anthem in front of his keyboard. Throwing kisses to his portrait of Vladimir Vladimirovitj Putin on the wall.
I sincerely hope no-one is that blind not to see what he is.
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I did NOT bring up crypto based on gold. I brought up digital accounts. For example, you would deposit an ounce of gold in an account, and then use a debit card that would allow you to spend a fraction of that gold.
If trust is what substitutes for money is based on, then why are we using any substitutes?
Gold is a viable substitute for the US dollar, because gold is money. The US dollar USED to be backed by gold, and it is riding on its reputation. (Politicians don't like gold because it is easier to get money for their projects by inflating the money supply, and you can't print gold out of thin air.)
Money has 5 mandatory attributes. (Anything that lacks even one characteristic will fail.)
Consistent
Convenient
Durable
Divisable
Has intrinsic value
Start a new thread on money/currency/gold.
There your misconceptions can be addressed.
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I did NOT bring up crypto based on gold. I brought up digital accounts. For example, you would deposit an ounce of gold in an account, and then use a debit card that would allow you to spend a fraction of that gold.
If trust is what substitutes for money is based on, then why are we using any substitutes?
Gold is a viable substitute for the US dollar, because gold is money. The US dollar USED to be backed by gold, and it is riding on its reputation. (Politicians don't like gold because it is easier to get money for their projects by inflating the money supply, and you can't print gold out of thin air.)
Money has 5 mandatory attributes. (Anything that lacks even one characteristic will fail.)
Consistent
Convenient
Durable
Divisable
Has intrinsic value
I don't know what the answer is, but gold doesn't seem much different than anything else.
I've enjoyed the benefits of the dollar to this point. Nothing can last forever though; eventually other competing currencies will get more market share. From what I've read that will devalue the dollar. I can see how inflation is already doing that, so getting the inflation under control will be important, especially for the older folks and savers. There is always a chance that in the grander scheme of things, older people and savers will be tossed under the bus, to make way for the newer generations who will be earning the inflated dollars at a higher clip.
Fathertime!
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Our government is so corrupt and the media puts out so much propaganda that most people don't know we are in the Supreme Court for election fraud, the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court for election fraud, Wisconsin Congress is seriously talking decertifying the election and recalling their electors and 7 other states are talking about it too. Most of our judges and politicians have been compromised. I'm not sure they're going to take appropriate action. If we don't fix the problems in our country, we won't be capable of fixing Ukraine's problem, especially with a criminal government. I'm not worried about Ukraine being taken over because America has been taken over. We have a chance to correct this. If we don't, you will be witnessing the beginning of the decline of America and our future generations will suffer because we failed.
There are a sizable percentage of people that believe the US govt is fraudulent. I believe Biden won fair and square. All that said, I do see a decline in America. I think it is the people themselves are in decline. I guess it is just the a cycle of how societies evolve. Other more hungry nations will outcompete us. In addition to this, I don't believe the US is really interested in fixing Ukraine's problem. If it were happening on our doorstep we would want to stop the turmoil and get back to business. I imagine there are US strategists charting out a cost benefit analysis regarding Ukraine and they are probably considering competing factors that none of us have brought up or throught about here. It would be done in a calculating manner emotion free.
Fathertime!
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FT,
IMO the cost-benefit analysis is only defined by the risks of supplying offensive vs defensive weapons.
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uhh yeah, with white, blue and red colors in his eyes, humming the russian anthem in front of his keyboard. Throwing kisses to his portrait of Vladimir Vladimirovitj Putin on the wall.
I sincerely hope no-one is that blind not to see what he is.
Huh? When I have stated I support Russia's actions?
What I have said -
1. There are always multiple perspectives to any conflict. Resolving conflict requires taking on all perspectives, even if you disagree with them. I have previously received professional training in this area, here's a taste: http://www.dianemushohamilton.com/about-diane/
2. Ukrainian government and military do not value civilian lives. Plenty of evidence this is the case. They are not virtuous. They are in no way better than the Russian army with respect to civilians - and arguably worse.
3. Western narrative is BS. What happened to the "Ghost of Kyiv"? Was he shot down? There is propaganda on both sides but western media only present one side and have banned/blocked the other (in the EU and other places).
4. Russia will get what it wants or there will be nuclear/world war. This is subjective and not a presentation of my personal preference - but what is transpiring. Very disturbing flight patterns of certain aircraft in Russia in the past 24 hours indicating Russia may be preparing for a strike. I am seriously concerned about this possibility. Russia have nuclear systems on highest alert and have operationally deployed S-500 systems including in Moscow.
5. De-escalation should be prioritized. Sanctions hurt common people, not the elites. It has increased the cost of living (survival) for people all over the world. Food (and fertilizer) production and distribution in Ukraine and Russia is severely impacted. The reality is a hit to food production/distribution/prices will result in starvation/death/political turmoil in countries completely unrelated to the conflict. This is a serious global problem.
6. This is not 'good guys vs. bad guys'. Maybe it's my libertarian streak but when governments are involved there are, with very limited exceptions, absolutely no good guys. Power structures attract corrupted personalities who do not act virtuously. I mean, seriously, two weeks into the conflict Russia decides to drop a cluster bomb in downtown Donetsk? Seriously? I've never denied Russian troops have killed civilians because it is bound to happen in a conflict of this size and nature.
I get labeled a Putin stooge because I don't follow the herd? Think for yourself. At least Boe bothers to color her responses with different viewpoints rather than petty name calling.
The world is teetering on the brink of nuclear disaster. Not sure people have cottoned on to this yet.
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Here is a western Youtuber with a million subscribers. He is telling a different story than what you read here. Has a snippet from a western guy who it seems went to Ukraine to fight for Ukraine.
There is definitely a strain of America that isn't buying into the current controlled narrative we get from our officials.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH5fnlurq-w&t=304s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH5fnlurq-w&t=304s)
Fathertime!
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The first casualty of war is ALWAYS the truth…
and his obituary is spoken of every day on Russian TV (“Special Military Operation”)
as if he were a lately killed Russian General…
truth didn’t stop the 2nd Chechen war, when Putin ordered the FSB to bomb Russian apartments
most of the people who were killed in Grozny after that were ethnic Russians
just like most of the people killed in Mariupol now were Russian speakers…
we had to kill the Russians to save the Russians? huh?
So, it’s not ABOUT PEOPLE THEN, it’s ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE…
Hmmmmm... Now Think.....
What could it be?
my prediction, the Russians will feel more "invoragted" when the weather improves but the muddy ground will still inhibit movement
Russians will try to block Odessa from the rest of Ukraine, and maybe even cutting off water supply route with naval blockade of Odessa....
once they cut-off Odessa they will head north to link up with the forces surrounding Kiev
the goal is to surround, isolate and starve out kiev...
and when the central government collapses, so will the oblasts which are dependent on the central government for most of their money
and one-by-one, all the dominos begin to fall
till nothing and noone is left standing in Ukraine
the thing about people hiding in bunkers is that:
"neither do they sow and neither do they reap"
for as long as Putin can tolerate the pain
all he has to do is to close off Odesa and surround Kiev, and then just keep up the current intensity, but focused all there in Kiev
and within a few monthd they will give up because of rampant famine
it took the Prussians 4 months to starve out Paris:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Paris_(1870%E2%80%931871)
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According to CNN, the west is back to the dreaded 'arm twisting'. of China with threats. Biden is probably not stupid enough to go into a meeting threatening China, but if he did, I'd suspect China would laugh in his face figuratively.
Threats of US Sanctions again, probably works with a lot of countries...but some will thumb their nose to threats. Let's see how this all sets with China. They have their own self-interests to consider which should be paramount to US interests.
Biden uses call with Xi to lay out consequences for China if it supports Russia attack on Ukraine
Ahead of time, American officials declined to say what specific threats Biden might make to convince Xi to withhold support for Russia. There have been ongoing discussions within the administration about potential steps, including sanctions.
http://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/politics/joe-biden-xi-jinping-call/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/politics/joe-biden-xi-jinping-call/index.html)
Fathertime!
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USA has flown reaper drones on the boder of Donbas
each reaper is capable of carrying 4 hellfire missiles, which is more lethal than a javelin
a fleet of these crossing the Polish border at night at tree top level
land at dawn at refueling centers in Ukraine and then take off with mixed teams of Ukrainian and remote American operators and hit russian supply lines and artillery
return and repeat again the next night...
somewhere between 2 weeks and 2 months from now, if Russia doesn't at least isolate Odesa and Kiev from the rest of Ukraine
then it has no choice other than to declare general military mobilization!!!
this will mean millions will be drafted!
maybe could start fresh Russian deployments in June
everything really depends on the weather now
The more that time goes on…
then the more weapons that can be provided to Ukraine…
not just boosting Javelin and Stinger numbers, but totally new kinds of weapons with low training requirements
like 50 cal BMG
Barrett 50 cal Sniper
Mk 19 40 mm grenade launchers
Carl Gustaf 84mm recoilless rifle
all of these weapons can be taught to someone in 1 week
and easy to smuggle thousands of them into Ukrainian training centers by truck and dispersed into combat zones
the west must also contend with the idea of a humanitarian airlift to stop the spread of famine in Ukraine
when the food supply/transport system starts to break down a few weeks from now
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Meet Marina Ovsyannikova, a heroic (and beautiful) Russian woman. Employee of the main Russian state TV channel, she managed to get behind the newsanchor during live news with a an anti-war poster to be seen by millions of Russians. At 4:33 is her appearance.
The poster also said in the middle, 'Don't believe the propaganda. They lie to you here'.
Now she is interviewed by CNN.
http://youtu.be/wVbPi29TiTE
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Start a new thread on money/currency/gold.
There your misconceptions can be addressed.
(http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/Smileys/DarkB/icon_thumleft.gif)
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Meet Marina Ovsyannikova, a heroic (and beautiful) Russian woman. Employee of the main Russian state TV channel, she managed to get behind the news anchor during live news with a an anti-war poster to be seen by millions of Russians. At 4:33 is her appearance.
The poster also said in the middle, 'Don't believe the propaganda. They lie to you here'.
I saw all of this.
Can't believe they only gave her a small fine.
Why wasn't she prosecuted and sent to prison for 15 years under the new law ?
Does she have a secret video of Mad Vlad peeing on a bed ?
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USA has flown reaper drones on the boder of Donbas
each reaper is capable of carrying 4 hellfire missiles, which is more lethal than a javelin
a fleet of these crossing the Polish border at night at tree top level
land at dawn at refueling centers in Ukraine and then take off with mixed teams of Ukrainian and remote American operators and hit russian supply lines and artillery
return and repeat again the next night...
somewhere between 2 weeks and 2 months from now, if Russia doesn't at least isolate Odesa and Kiev from the rest of Ukraine
then it has no choice other than to declare general military mobilization!!!
this will mean millions will be drafted!
maybe could start fresh Russian deployments in June
everything really depends on the weather now
The more that time goes on…
then the more weapons that can be provided to Ukraine…
not just boosting Javelin and Stinger numbers, but totally new kinds of weapons with low training requirements
like 50 cal BMG
Barrett 50 cal Sniper
Mk 19 40 mm grenade launchers
Carl Gustaf 84mm recoilless rifle
all of these weapons can be taught to someone in 1 week
and easy to smuggle thousands of them into Ukrainian training centers by truck and dispersed into combat zones
the west must also contend with the idea of a humanitarian airlift to stop the spread of famine in Ukraine
when the food supply/transport system starts to break down a few weeks from now
general mobilization, that's will be huge if we face such situation.
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Meet Marina Ovsyannikova, a heroic (and beautiful) Russian woman. Employee of the main Russian state TV channel, she managed to get behind the newsanchor during live news with a an anti-war poster to be seen by millions of Russians. At 4:33 is her appearance.
The poster also said in the middle, 'Don't believe the propaganda. They lie to you here'.
Now she is interviewed by CNN.
Yes we saw her protest here in the UK.
A very brave lady to speak the truth in Putin land.
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Here is a western Youtuber with a million subscribers. He is telling a different story than what you read here. Has a snippet from a western guy who it seems went to Ukraine to fight for Ukraine.
There is definitely a strain of America that isn't buying into the current controlled narrative we get from our officials.
Fathertime!
Supposedly, that guy was rejected by Ukraine and not allowed to fight.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10626697/Ukraines-foreign-fighters-ridicule-American-Boogaloo-Boy-RAN-AWAY-fighting.html
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Huh? When I have stated I support Russia's actions?
What I have said -
1. There are always multiple perspectives to any conflict. Resolving conflict requires taking on all perspectives, even if you disagree with them. I have previously received professional training in this area, here's a taste: http://www.dianemushohamilton.com/about-diane/ (http://www.dianemushohamilton.com/about-diane/)
2. Ukrainian government and military do not value civilian lives. Plenty of evidence this is the case. They are not virtuous. They are in no way better than the Russian army with respect to civilians - and arguably worse.
3. Western narrative is BS. What happened to the "Ghost of Kyiv"? Was he shot down? There is propaganda on both sides but western media only present one side and have banned/blocked the other (in the EU and other places).
4. Russia will get what it wants or there will be nuclear/world war. This is subjective and not a presentation of my personal preference - but what is transpiring. Very disturbing flight patterns of certain aircraft in Russia in the past 24 hours indicating Russia may be preparing for a strike. I am seriously concerned about this possibility. Russia have nuclear systems on highest alert and have operationally deployed S-500 systems including in Moscow.
5. De-escalation should be prioritized. Sanctions hurt common people, not the elites. It has increased the cost of living (survival) for people all over the world. Food (and fertilizer) production and distribution in Ukraine and Russia is severely impacted. The reality is a hit to food production/distribution/prices will result in starvation/death/political turmoil in countries completely unrelated to the conflict. This is a serious global problem.
6. This is not 'good guys vs. bad guys'. Maybe it's my libertarian streak but when governments are involved there are, with very limited exceptions, absolutely no good guys. Power structures attract corrupted personalities who do not act virtuously. I mean, seriously, two weeks into the conflict Russia decides to drop a cluster bomb in downtown Donetsk? Seriously? I've never denied Russian troops have killed civilians because it is bound to happen in a conflict of this size and nature.
I get labeled a Putin stooge because I don't follow the herd? Think for yourself. At least Boe bothers to color her responses with different viewpoints rather than petty name calling.
The world is teetering on the brink of nuclear disaster. Not sure people have cottoned on to this yet.
Ghost of Kiev and Snake Island not surrendering are myths from the Ukrainian side. Correct
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The first casualty of war is ALWAYS the truth…
Suppression of information in the west I can see. In Russia similar story.
Looks like Putin has launched his hypersonic weapons into Ukraine now. The talking heads are now stating he may launch very small nuclear (Sub 1 Kiloton) weapons to wipe out Ukrainian forces completely in addition to sending the message that he will do whatever he needs to do. Personally, I think he is up to taking part in this sort of launch, and it would be catastrophic to whoever remains in the area.
The general population in the USA doesn't know or care too much about Ukraine, so I don't think our nation would go very deep. Our priority lies with punishing Russia financially, and of course fostering what we can to ensure Russia incurs as many military losses as possible.
Fathertime!
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These are some of the first remarks AFTER meeting with Biden yesterday.
China blames NATO. I tend to believe it is more about money and business.
Either way, China words are standing more with Russia than the west obviously.
I'll be curious to see what the next actions are. We shall see if China resupplies Russia, the way the west has been resupplying Ukraine.
China's Vice Foreign Minister blames NATO for war in Ukraine
....China's vice foreign minister on Saturday blamed NATO for the war in Ukraine and criticized the West's sanctions against Russia, AP reports.....
....The big picture: Le's remarks come one day after President Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping spoke about the war, with Biden describing "the implications and consequences if China provides material support to Russia," according to a White House readout of the call.....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-vice-foreign-minister-blames-144527348.html (http://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-vice-foreign-minister-blames-144527348.html)
Fathertime!
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If Russia mobilizes, then the west will have to mobilize:
USA could move 100 reaper drones to North Eastern Romania, transfer them to Ukraine, and attack Russian positions in southern Ukraine and return to base without refueling!!
don’t worry, the USA has about 330 Reaper Drones, these are 10X better than the Turkish ones!!
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Meet Marina Ovsyannikova, a heroic (and beautiful) Russian woman. Employee of the main Russian state TV channel, she managed to get behind the newsanchor during live news with a an anti-war poster to be seen by millions of Russians. At 4:33 is her appearance.
The poster also said in the middle, 'Don't believe the propaganda. They lie to you here'.
Now she is interviewed by CNN.
There is some speculation, based on the fine she received (administrative, despite the fact she could have been fined criminally), that this was "planted" by authorities.
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There is some speculation, based on the fine she received (administrative, despite the fact she could have been fined criminally), that this was "planted" by authorities.
Please elaborate. I don't understand the background of your words at all.
My google search turned up nothing along the lines you suggested.
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She received the absolute lowest level of fine possible, 30,000 rubles. She could have been fined will over 1 million rubles had she faced a criminal charge, and she could have faced prison time.
Throughout the history of the USSR, many so called "dissidents" were actually working with the Soviet state. I trust nothing coming out of Russia, because they use a lot of disinformation. I also don't trust reports of war "successes" coming from Ukraine.
I am not suggesting Marina Ovsyannikova was participating in a disinformation piece of propaganda, just that we can't blindly accept that what she did is as it seems.
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She received the absolute lowest level of fine possible, 30,000 rubles. She could have been fined will over 1 million rubles had she faced a criminal charge, and she could have faced prison time.
Throughout the history of the USSR, many so called "dissidents" were actually working with the Soviet state. I trust nothing coming out of Russia, because they use a lot of disinformation. I also don't trust reports of war "successes" coming from Ukraine.
OK, but how could allowing her protest on TV benefit Putin's government?
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It proves to the West that dissent is still "allowed" in Russia, that Russia is not an autocratic state, despite the fact that the vast majority of mass media is state controlled.
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It proves to the West that dissent is still "allowed" in Russia, that Russia is not an autocratic state . . .
OK, but I didn't know that Putin or his government cares what the West thinks about such.
They don't care about what West (and much of the world) thinks about their terrorist activities in Ukraine . . . so why would they care about dissent, etc.?
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I think they do care what the West thinks. If they didn’t, there would be no troll factories.
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I think they do care what the West thinks. If they didn’t, there would be no troll factories.
They probably want to make sure their view is heard....in addition to making sure there is some dissent in the US and the rest of the west, in terms of policy towards Russia.
Fathertime!
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No, they have always had a policy of influencing, and changing Western opinion.
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Here’s a video I found today that explains some of this.
http://youtu.be/LR-u3Lbuc0Y
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I think they do care what the West thinks. If they didn’t, there would be no troll factories.
Good point.
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They probably want to make sure their view is heard....in addition to making sure there is some dissent in the US and the rest of the west, in terms of policy towards Russia.
Fathertime!
No, they have always had a policy of influencing, and changing Western opinion.
Sounds about the same to me.
Fathertime!
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The difference is, in the US, dissenting opinions are tolerated. In Russia, not so much.
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Here’s a video I found today that explains some of this.
http://youtu.be/LR-u3Lbuc0Y
Excellent find Boe.
My synopsis: Was the action of Russian TV woman Marina Ovsiannikova merely a Putin sanctioned stunt to turn the world's attention on her . . . and away from the atrocities being committed by Russian terrorist attacks on Ukraine ?
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Here's a personal update on the struggle for Ukraine.
T flew to Poland two weeks ago. She took medical supplies from Sunflower of Peace, a local non profit. A shout out to Delta - we purchased a basic fare but they allowed 3 oversized and over-weight checked-in luggage filled with combat gauge, compression bandages, combat tournequets and medical packs. All without charge after just showing them a letter from Sunflower of Peace.
She has been travelling back and forth from the border and Warsaw, meeting other volunteers with supplies and getting other equipment requested by the militia, such as flak vests and thermal scopes.
She promised me she would stay in Poland and not enter Ukraine, which lasted a week. I somewhat expected it - she is in Ukraine near the border to help with refugees and supplies.
T is from Mariupol. Last year she bought a house there for her sister and two nephews. They were the ones who let us know about the invasion, when our oldest nephew called because he heard explosions. We lost contact with them on March 6. They were without electricity, heat and running water. A part of an artillery shell punched a hole above one of our nephews bedroom. They have been sheltering in their unfinished basement, which is more of a winter cold storage room. They had a small stock of food and drinking water - enough for a few days. They tried to leave that day but turned around when they saw shelling up ahead on the road.
Last Saturday a friend contacted us. They went by the house and saw my SIL's car. They met my SIL and she and the nephews were ok.
On Tuesday they were able to evacuate from Mrpl. They were a part of a civilian convoy that went to Zaporizhzhia. Not a day too soon. The convoy that left Wednesday was hit by an artillery strike, with several dead and many injurded. T said 7 died. On the following day the drama theater was bombed. T's house is located two blocks away.
Today SIL and nephews are in central Ukraine. They should meet up with T tomorrow evening. T has arranged a place for them - one of the volunteers she works with has a summer house in a town near the Polish border. Our oldest nephew is 19 and cannot leave Ukraine. We are going to arrange a job for him either at a nearby factory or have him volunteer with transferring supplies. Or maybe have him volunteer at a community kitchen to feed passing refugees.
I've read a few posts here. Seems like some people are debating and some are repeating crap theories.
If any want to do something, like donate or provide some other support, check your local charities. Don't just donate blindly - I've come across some suspect organizations. We picked the one we work with because we went to the charity founder's home and packed supplies into large duffle bags. They are what they said they were.
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whatever grassroots support that's being created for Ukraine, this is like trying to fill a desert with a drop of water...
a month from now there will be a major, major crisis in Ukraine
with 1/4 of all children in Ukraine going to bed hungry every night
there is no way to stem the tide of a tsunami this high
just get out of the way as best you can
if I were you, I'd take your friend to Mexico with her Ukrainian passport
and then go through the US checkpoint at El Paso, Texas and have accomodations reserved there ahead of time
she gets a 1 year visa automatically there now
that's a long ass flite from Warsaw to Mexico City
and both these aero puertos kinda suck...
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Hi Krim
I always thought you were a bit odd.
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"I always thought you were a bit odd."
why do you think I'm odd?
just because I'm not divisible by 2?
you don't seem to be "too even" yourself!!
LOL!!
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The difference is, in the US, dissenting opinions are tolerated.
Less now than ever.
I think everybody needs to watch this video----
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7DbO51Z3Co
Comments---
It's weird to see Joe actually string a sentence together.
The problem is Joe Biden doesn't remember 1997.
Getting my news from a comedian, while the news shows have become a joke.
To me, the thing is... NATO is not all it's cracked up to be any more. There is no unified armed forces. Who would be in charge?
“In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO,” Bolton said. “And I think [Russian President Vladimir] Putin was waiting for that.”White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Friday responded to Bolton’s comments, saying they highlighted “another reason the American people are grateful — the majority of the American people — that President Biden has not taken a page out of his predecessor’s playbook as it relates to global engagement and global leadership, because certainly we could be in a different place.”“I mean, there’s no question that the strength and unity of NATO has been a powerful force in this moment,” Psaki added.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/04/bolton-says-trump-might-have-pulled-us-out-nato-if-he-had-been-reelected/
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Comments---To me, the thing is... NATO is not all it's cracked up to be any more. There is no unified armed forces. Who would be in charge?
shape.nato.int
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The real Nazis.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/russian-mercenaries-in-ukraine-linked-to-far-right-extremists
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The real Nazis.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/russian-mercenaries-in-ukraine-linked-to-far-right-extremists (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/russian-mercenaries-in-ukraine-linked-to-far-right-extremists)
Russia has repeatedly tried to embarrass the world with the "Ukrainian nazis".
They are everywhere. In Europe we have some groups of them, you have some in the USA or also I suppose in Canada.
Does it make the whole country nazi? No
Russia often refers to Bandera who operated in the North West of Ukraine and collaborated with the Germans but most annoying was the following insurrection against the USSR, NKVD fought them for a decade, and the Ukrainian insurrection was capable to deploy sometime a regiment at a specific point.
The SS Galicie division is all time the Pantheon of the treachery in the eyes of the Russian Federation.
We had also a French SS division "Charlemagne", do you remember someone telling us that Frenchies are all nazis? No, some people are, however, but not all the nation. In France, we have far-right movements but the law punishes severely the ones who turn themselves nazis. I have seen this repeatedly last 30 years, the French justice is merciless with them.
I have not been a witness in 13 years in Ukraine during my 30 trips (31? 32? 33?) of something related (seen or heard) about Nazis in Ukraine.
I know a couple of Russian YouTubers who have gone to Ukraine and they express the same observation.
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Here's a personal update on the struggle for Ukraine.
T flew to Poland two weeks ago. She took medical supplies from Sunflower of Peace, a local non profit. A shout out to Delta - we purchased a basic fare but they allowed 3 oversized and over-weight checked-in luggage filled with combat gauge, compression bandages, combat tournequets and medical packs. All without charge after just showing them a letter from Sunflower of Peace.
She has been travelling back and forth from the border and Warsaw, meeting other volunteers with supplies and getting other equipment requested by the militia, such as flak vests and thermal scopes.
She promised me she would stay in Poland and not enter Ukraine, which lasted a week. I somewhat expected it - she is in Ukraine near the border to help with refugees and supplies.
T is from Mariupol. Last year she bought a house there for her sister and two nephews. They were the ones who let us know about the invasion, when our oldest nephew called because he heard explosions. We lost contact with them on March 6. They were without electricity, heat and running water. A part of an artillery shell punched a hole above one of our nephews bedroom. They have been sheltering in their unfinished basement, which is more of a winter cold storage room. They had a small stock of food and drinking water - enough for a few days. They tried to leave that day but turned around when they saw shelling up ahead on the road.
Last Saturday a friend contacted us. They went by the house and saw my SIL's car. They met my SIL and she and the nephews were ok.
On Tuesday they were able to evacuate from Mrpl. They were a part of a civilian convoy that went to Zaporizhzhia. Not a day too soon. The convoy that left Wednesday was hit by an artillery strike, with several dead and many injurded. T said 7 died. On the following day the drama theater was bombed. T's house is located two blocks away.
Today SIL and nephews are in central Ukraine. They should meet up with T tomorrow evening. T has arranged a place for them - one of the volunteers she works with has a summer house in a town near the Polish border. Our oldest nephew is 19 and cannot leave Ukraine. We are going to arrange a job for him either at a nearby factory or have him volunteer with transferring supplies. Or maybe have him volunteer at a community kitchen to feed passing refugees.
I've read a few posts here. Seems like some people are debating and some are repeating crap theories.
If any want to do something, like donate or provide some other support, check your local charities. Don't just donate blindly - I've come across some suspect organizations. We picked the one we work with because we went to the charity founder's home and packed supplies into large duffle bags. They are what they said they were.
Thanks for great post Steve !!
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Can't blame Zelensky for trying although I don't think Russia's invasion would cause WWIII if no agreement is reached. What would lead to a wider conflict is direct intervention from Western powers.... which doesn't seem to be in the cards as of yet. It's understandable that Zelensky wants to try to negotiate from a position of strength, but the reality is Ukraine isn't in that position.
I'm not sure if Russian demands have changed since last time, but if not, a lot of lives can still be saved if Ukraine accepts their fate against a much larger, relentless, and merciless opponent. Russian has enough tacit backing from larger nations such as China and India, and even if they didn't it still seems clear they are going forward regardless of the cost to them. I'm not sure of what the real number of deaths are, but with Russia's attitude it will wind up in the millions before this ends.
Zelensky: "I'm ready for negotiations" with Putin, but if they fail, it could mean "a third World War"
....Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday he is ready to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin, but warned that if any negotiation attempts fail, it could mean the fight between the two countries would lead to "a third World War."
“I’m ready for negotiations with him. I was ready for the last two years. And I think that without negotiations, we cannot end this war,” Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria in an exclusive interview Sunday morning....
http://tinyurl.com/2p8kwcjm
Fathertime!
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I'm not sure if Russian demands have changed since last time, but if not, a lot of lives can still be saved if Ukraine accepts their fate against a much larger, relentless, and merciless opponent.
You seem to keep forgetting what this would mean for other smaller countries around the world.
There is even the higher level thinking that this is the beginning phase of war between democracies and autocracies around the globe.
Ukrainians says they are fighting for the rest of the world.
I believe it.
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Yes Boris Johnson publicly said that if Putin is seen to be successful in his invasion of Ukraine it will be a disaster for the rest of the World.
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"Russia has repeatedly tried to embarrass the world with the "Ukrainian nazis". "
Russians have the great patriotic war in their collective sub-conscious
and the government is fully aware of how to use this collective memory to manipulate the Russian public’s actions and feelings. You see it every freakin day on Russian TV!
way too much "nostalgie" borja moi! they try to milk every little bit of it!
So Putin called Ukrainians “faschista!”
when a mosquito bites my wife’s arm, this is what she yells at it, while squashing it!
“FASCHISTA!”
it doesn’t mean, this little bug is wearing a Hitler-Jugund Swastika red and black and white arm band!
Nope!
Fashista! Is just a Russian pejorative term, like the “N” word, only MUCH worse…
it’s probably the nastiest word you can legally say on Russian TV
because MAT, is strictly VERBOTEN on Russki TV!!
you can’t say "d’vai pizda" on TV for example!
but at Rasputin's Moscva I heard this being said ALL THE TIME (LOL!!!)
starry starry den
L'exile du Russki
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NOTE: Just because I post some articles in this thread should not
imply that I agree with them or believe that they should be considered
to be unbiased or reliable. Everyone should always question everything
and get information from several different sources before making up their
minds.
This is a collection of some of the more sensational stories circulating
around in cyberspace.
Putin loses ANOTHER top commander
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10632485/Putin-loses-commander-Black-Sea-Fleet-captain-51-shot-dead-near-Mariupol.html
Russia ridicules idea that cosmonauts wore yellow in support of Ukraine
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-ridicules-idea-cosmonauts-wore-151014565.html
Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine because he is terrified of a pro-democracy revolution in Moscow says Boris Johnson
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/putin-panicking-over-revolution-moscow-26508643
Col.-Gen. Sergei Beseda, head of the intelligence agency’s Fifth Service under house
arrest
http://www.wsj.com/articles/reported-detention-of-russian-spy-boss-shows-tension-over-stalled-ukraine-invasion-u-s-officials-say-11647687601
Colonel-General Sergei Beseda, head of the FSB’s foreign intelligence branch,
the Fifth Service, was arrested along with his deputy, Anatoly Bolyukh. If they
have been detained, Western security officials said it means President Vladimir
Putin is “seriously concerned” about faulty intelligence on Ukraine.
http://groundreport.in/who-is-spy-chief-col-gen-sergei-beseda-arrested-in-ukraine/
Thousands of resident illegally taken across border, says Mariupol council, as reports emerge its art school has been bombed while 400 were sheltering inside
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/ukraine-crisis-claims-mariupol-women-and-children-forcibly-sent-to-russia
Ukraine claims more Wagner mercenaries trying to assassinate Zelensky
http://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-701782
Pentagon’s Work With Ukraine’s Biological Facilities Becomes Flashpoint in Russia’s Information War
http://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagons-work-with-ukraines-biological-facilities-becomes-flashpoint-in-russias-information-war-11647768601
India’s Dependence on Russian Weapons Tethers Modi to Putin
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/india-s-dependence-on-russian-weapons-tethers-modi-to-putin/ar-AAVhIHA
Inside the secret transfer of military equipment to Ukrainian soldiers
http://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2022-03-18/secret-transfer-military-equipment-ukrainian-soldiers-5390190.html
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I have not been a witness in 13 years in Ukraine during my 30 trips (31? 32? 33?) of something related (seen or heard) about Nazis in Ukraine.
I know a couple of Russian YouTubers who have gone to Ukraine and they express the same observation.
I'm a minority and I haven't experienced any hostility in my dozen trips to Ukraine. But that doesn't mean Russia is lying about Nazis in Ukraine that our current government is supporting.
Here is a letter 40 Democrats signed asking the Trump administration to label the Ukrainian Azov Battalion a terrorist organization since they have white supremacists neo nazis in its ranks and are recruiting Americans. Now our government wants to give the Azov Battalion weapons to kill Russians and our media tells us neo nazis in Ukraine doesn't exist. All people in in the world should be outraged if we are supporting people who worship Hitler.
http://web.archive.org/web/20200130033931/http://maxrose.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2019.10.16_rose_fto_letter_to_state.pdf (http://web.archive.org/web/20200130033931/http://maxrose.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2019.10.16_rose_fto_letter_to_state.pdf)
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You seem to keep forgetting what this would mean for other smaller countries around the world.
There is even the higher level thinking that this is the beginning phase of war between democracies and autocracies around the globe.
Ukrainians says they are fighting for the rest of the world.
I believe it.
It is something to consider.
I don't think this invasion will lead to other similar invasions. The consequences are pretty severe and it seems Ukraine was a pretty unique situation.
Smaller like minded countries can also band together and form their own little versions of NATO....leaving out the biggest powers.
Fathertime!
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Inside the secret transfer of military equipment to Ukrainian soldiers
http://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2022-03-18/secret-transfer-military-equipment-ukrainian-soldiers-5390190.html
This is great !
But WTF did Stars and Stripes publish it ????????
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Russia has repeatedly tried to embarrass the world with the "Ukrainian nazis".
They are everywhere. In Europe we have some groups of them, you have some in the USA or also I suppose in Canada.
Does it make the whole country nazi? No
Russia often refers to Bandera who operated in the North West of Ukraine and collaborated with the Germans but most annoying was the following insurrection against the USSR, NKVD fought them for a decade, and the Ukrainian insurrection was capable to deploy sometime a regiment at a specific point.
The SS Galicie division is all time the Pantheon of the treachery in the eyes of the Russian Federation.
We had also a French SS division "Charlemagne", do you remember someone telling us that Frenchies are all nazis? No, some people are, however, but not all the nation. In France, we have far-right movements but the law punishes severely the ones who turn themselves nazis. I have seen this repeatedly last 30 years, the French justice is merciless with them.
I have not been a witness in 13 years in Ukraine during my 30 trips (31? 32? 33?) of something related (seen or heard) about Nazis in Ukraine.
I know a couple of Russian YouTubers who have gone to Ukraine and they express the same observation.
I understand why Ukrainians wanted to honour Bandera, but I think it was wrong to do so. He belongs to a past that was hyper nationalistic. Because this was suppressed in Ukraine, it would bound to come out in unhealthy ways on the collapse of the USSR.
The idea that a country with a Jewish president - the only one outside Israel - is a fascist state is ludicrous.
The hallmarks of fascism -
Extreme nationalism
Disdain for human rights.
Scapegoating enemies as a unifying cause.
Tightly controlled media.
Obsessive security in a surveillance state.
Using religion to bolster political power.
Pampering economic and corporate elites at the expense of have-nots.
Suppressing organized labour.
Excessive police powers and jailing as a political tool.
Rampant cronyism and corruption.
Fraudulent elections.
Where do all of the above exist?
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The idea that a country with a Jewish president - the only one outside Israel - is a fascist state is ludicrous.
No, it's not ludicrous.
The idea that a country with a Jewish president would be a Nazi state is ludicrous. Nazism and fascism are not the same thing.
Nazism is a political ideology.
Fascism is an economic system.
While Nazis were fascists, not all fascists are Nazis. Almost all countries of the world are fascist countries.
The hallmarks of fascism -
Extreme nationalism
Disdain for human rights.
Scapegoating enemies as a unifying cause.
Tightly controlled media.
Obsessive security in a surveillance state.
Using religion to bolster political power.
Pampering economic and corporate elites at the expense of have-nots.
Suppressing organized labour.
Excessive police powers and jailing as a political tool.
Rampant cronyism and corruption.
Fraudulent elections.
Those are not hallmarks of fascism. They are all 100% totally unrelated to fascism.
Fascism is an economic system of private ownership of goods, services, and the means of producing them - with government regulation over such. That's all fascism is, nothing more and nothing less. Fascism is also sometimes called crony capitalism.
What you have described are hallmarks of authoritarian regimes. They have nothing to do with the economic system in that country. (All those hallmarks are present in North Korea, and it is socialist, not fascist.)
Where do all of the above exist?
The US comes to mind for many of them.
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Let's come back to the dictionnary:
What is a fascist? Fascism (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fascism) is a system of government led by a dictator (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/dictator) who typically rules by forcefully and often violently suppressing opposition and criticism, controlling all industry and commerce, and promoting nationalism (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/nationalism) and often racism. (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/racism)
What is a Nazi? Nazis (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/nazi) don’t need much of an introduction: they were the German government and military that slaughtered over six million Jews and others during World War II.
✅ Nazism is described as one type of fascism. Both fascism and Nazism reject democracy and liberalism as ideologies, and instead embrace the concept of a nationalist state (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/state).
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Arguing over definitions is not useful.
Best to just describe a nation or government using adjectives and verbs rather than nouns.
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http://ukrainianweek.com/Politics/108311
Russian aggression in Crimea reveals interesting aspects of using criminal groups in politics
how about enabling a corrupt real estate developer use fake “special electors” to make him President?
Q: Was this Crimea in 2014 or USA on Jan 6 2021?
history may not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme a lot, maybe it's some kinda rap music
ras, vaz avtobus
Putin, may have overplayed his hand
but it ain't over til the fat lady sings
now the GRU will pull a "krolich" out of it's kapka
sealing the doom of the FSB apparchatki and Ukrainians
Putin only has two more defense zones in Southern Ukraine to destroy (like he did to Mauripol) to surround and cut-off Odessa and split Ukraine in two cutting it off from direct contact with the "chorny moira" and one of these zones his forces are already on the outskirts
it appears Bela Russians are on the march tomorrow...
if he takes those two cities he's half way won the war
having this multi-front approach was also a problem when the germans attacked the Soviet Union
the Germans had 3 fronts:
Kyiv, Moscow and Leningrad
Putin should have used all his forces in the south, to split Ukraine first in a single unified front, then shoot straight up the Dniper to Kyiv....
Duh Pootin!
it looks like Putin IS now focusing his forces to the South, he's also getting a lot of fresh soldiers from Dagestan and maybe Belarus will join in this week
one of those big thermobaric bombs just went off in Kyiv, lit up the whole city
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This is the menu scheddule for each every Ukrainian city encircled.
Read attentively.
http://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-edf7240a9d990e7e3e32f82ca351dede (http://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-edf7240a9d990e7e3e32f82ca351dede)
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As thought it looks like the west giving Ukraine weapons has only served to prolong this conflict with Ukraine being able to stall the Russian advance by knocking out many of their tanks. I wonder if it may have all been less bloody had we not given the weapons even though it may have meant Ukrainian defeat. Well I'm guessing at least Russia won't be invading another country in a hurry is the upside since it now seems bogged down in Ukraine.
If I were Russia I would get Belarusian or otherwise troops down from Belarus all along the border with Poland, Romania, etc. Cut off supplies to the whole of Ukraine, it as quite a long border but I'm guessing a lot of disruption is possible. I'm surprised they haven't gone south there already.
As it is I'm not sure where this is all going. The Russians seem to want to destroy Ukrainian cities one by one, that could take some time to achieve if it indeed does. It's also pretty horrific for the populace that have had this forced upon them by Putin. Looks like it's all going to be down to who cracks first, Russia or Ukraine and in what way, militarily, economically, etc.
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Arguing over definitions is not useful.
Best to just describe a nation or government using adjectives and verbs rather than nouns.
(http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/Smileys/DarkB/icon_thumleft.gif)
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A lot of talk in the media about the Russian Invasion having stalled that and reckoning that Russia might only have 2-3 weeks before it exhausts its efforts in terms of ammo, tanks, men, etc.
Russian forces definitely been struggling to make headway with taking Kyiv and Mariupol still holding out despite Russia choking it and throwing everything they've got at it. Few advancements elsewhere for Russia also.
Some talk that Putin may be considering using chemical weapons, Hyperthermal missiles, etc to try and break the stalemate si his forces can advance.
So where does this all end? It's a difficult one I think, Putin won't want to lose, whether there will be a coup against him who knows. If not will he settle for a face saving Peace Treaty? who knows?
I think the odds of a Russian victory look more remote though it's not easy to ascertain how Ukraine is holding up under all of this or whether they might break all of a sudden. Clearly it looks like the west's supply of anti tank weapons have managed to stop the Russians in their tracks and stopped a complete swift collapse of Ukraine that I think would have happened anyway.
I think the only certainly is that Ukraine can only win this war to a certain point as end of the day Russia has many devastating long range missiles and chemicay weapons at their disposal. So the best Ukraine can probably hope is to push back and destroy a lit of Putin's forces then try and get a Peace Treaty. They can push into Russia as otherwise they'll be at greater risk of Russia retaliating in a bad way. So all depends on whether we see a Peace Treaty cone forth maybe in the next 2-3 weeks or so depending on what happens I guess.
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I am linking a piece by Niall Ferguson.
http://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-03-22/niall-ferguson-putin-and-biden-misunderstand-history-in-ukraine-war
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I don't like to link to the Daily Mail, as it's sensationalistic, but it has a harrowing story today. This is indicative of what is occurring.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10641683/RICHARD-PENDLEBURY-reports-young-people-caught-horror-war-Kyiv.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10641683/RICHARD-PENDLEBURY-reports-young-people-caught-horror-war-Kyiv.html)
Anyone who supports the Russian "position" is a supporter of the death and destruction of innocent people who just wish to live their lives. There was no reason for the invasion of Ukraine. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. It has little to do with NATO. It has nothing to do with the U.S., no matter how much anti American sentiment suggests otherwise.
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The people who support Putin/Russia in any way in this war are scum.
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I am linking a piece by Niall Ferguson.
http://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-03-22/niall-ferguson-putin-and-biden-misunderstand-history-in-ukraine-war
Interesting piece; thanks for posting link.
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I wouldn’t trust the “Western Perspective”as described by an elitist Scottish economist any more than I would trust his description of the “Russian Perspective”
Imagine, dear gentle readers, living in an alternate reality where EVERY SINGLE TV NEWS STATION IS A VERSION OF FOX NEWS, EVERY SINGLE ONE!
Every politically related news show, talk show, situation comedy, TV Series, are all written and approved by people who work for the Russian government…
AND so is every newspaper “gazeta” and ra-di-o
and when you go “walk-about” in Moscow, in random shops and offices
it’s all you hear people talking about, just repeating over and over what they saw/read
now imagine, for just a moment
what this relentless bombardment of the crudest propaganda, Nuremburg rally style ein volk, ein fuhrer moment that WE ALL SECRETLY LOVE (but won’t admit it!)!!!
will do to the least educated, less wealthy, less everything else, class of Gopnikia!
The answer is they become rabid far right supporters!
So all these “staruskas” instead of just being happy that they freaking survivied Covid, are now all over the TV, spewing their hatred of “hohol Amerikans”
with their stained and missing teeth and usually at least one worn gold tooth, although looks like some may have been extracted in leaner times…
This is the “Ugly Russian”. i.e. a stupid Russian with an ugly face!
unleased in Russia like a typhoon of old smelly baboshkas dressed in dirty worn-out black coats that are as old as they are
when I was in Russia, I ALWAYS had to fight with these nasty, samichki sellin’, suka babooshkas
they thought that because I was Western, I’d be an easy push-over for them
but, I gave them my cruelest sneer, and said “suka, dobratsya do kontsa ocheredi”
“bitch, GET to the back of the line!”
then ending with a flick of my eyes, starting at her feet, and then meeting her eyes
and saying strongly, “durrachka”
I could feel the humiliation radiating from her body
and THIS my friends, is the essence of what the "Russian Perspective" is
and I don't need no fancy schmancy European economist to tell me!
ponelle?!
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Russia strikes back. I see the Ruble's value has gone up quite a while the price of a barrel of oil is also way up. Today paid 6.09 a gallon to fill up my trucks.
Putin Says “Hostile” States Should Pay In Rubles For Russian Natural Gas
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that Russia would start charging the countries it considers “hostile” in rubles for its natural gas.
“I have taken a decision to switch to ruble payments for our natural gas supplies to the so-called hostile states, stop using the compromised currencies in such transactions,” Putin said, per a transcript published on the Kremlin website as carried by Bloomberg.
The Russian President—whose list of “hostile” states includes the United States, all EU member states, Switzerland, Canada, Norway, South Korea, Japan, and many others – has ordered the Bank of Russia, the central bank, to develop a system for payments in rubles within a week.
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Putin-Says-Hostile-States-Should-Pay-In-Rubles-For-Russian-Natural-Gas.html (http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Putin-Says-Hostile-States-Should-Pay-In-Rubles-For-Russian-Natural-Gas.html)
Fathertime!
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NOTE: I have seen different polls with significantly different numbers.
Always take such polling news with a grain of salt.
Finland support to join NATO jumped from 26% to 60% following Russia's invasion
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/finland-shows-strong-support-for-nato-poll
Finland's people now strongly back joining NATO, poll says, a massive political shift that would enrage Russia
http://www.businessinsider.com/finland-majority-support-joining-nato-after-russia-invades-ukraine-survey-2022-3
Swedes, Finns Favor NATO Entry in Shift After Ukraine War
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-04/swedish-poll-shows-majority-backs-joining-nato-for-first-time
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The ruble rebounded a bit because Russian bond markets reopened. It’s still not at levels it should be at.
This is a really good article by Timothy Snyder. I agree with his analysis on Putin’s mindset.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/23/putin-genocide-language-ukraine-wipe-out-state-identity/
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Osama Bin Ladin picked the most direct route to build a paved road down a steep mountainside
by first herding goats down the mountain, and retracing the route they took
the safest slope will be picked by the goats. they're smarter than civil engineers and surveyors!
I study the flow of money down a slope
and I to see a path traveled by “goats”:
The Russian Orthodox Church in the USA is the name of the group of parishes of the Russian mission in America that recognize the canonical authority of the Church of Russia. They were previously known as the Russian Exarchate of North America before autocephaly was granted to the Metropolia in 1970.
All of the parishes of the Exarchate were given a choice to join the OCA at that time. The parishes that remained were the following:
1. St. Nicholas Church, Brookside, Alabama
2. St. Demetrius Monastery, Bellflower, California
3. Christ the Savior Church, Berkeley, California
4. St. Nicholas Cathedral, San Francisco, California
5. Church of All Saints Glorified in the Russian Land, San Francisco, California
6. Our Lady of Kazan Church, San Diego, California
7. Resurrection Church, Chicago, Illinois
8. Dormition Church Benld, Illinois
9. Holy Trinity Church, Baltimore, Maryland
10. St. Elias Church, Battle Creek, Michigan
11. St. Innocent Church, Detroit, Michigan
12. St. Michael the Archangel Church, Detroit, Michigan
13. Church of St. Andrew the First-Called Apostle, East Lansing, Michigan
14. Holy Trinity Church, Saginaw, Michigan
15. St. John Chrysostom Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan
16. House Chapel of St. Seraphim of Sarov, Westown, New York
17. St. Demetrius Church, Jackson, Michigan
18. St. Nicholas Church, Bayonne, New Jersey
19. Sts. Peter and Paul Church, Elizabeth, New Jersey
20. Three Hierarchs Church, Garfield, New Jersey
21. Holy Cross Church, Hackettstown, New Jersey
22. Sts. Peter and Paul Church; Passaic, New Jersey
23. St. John the Baptist Church, Singac , New Jersey
24. St. Olga Church, Somerset, New Jersey
25. St. Mark Chapel, New York
26. Church of St. George the Great Martyr, New York
27. Church of All Saints Glorified in the Russian Land, on the estate of Pine Bush, New York
28. St. John the Baptist Chapel, Bronx, New York
29. Church of All Saints Glotified in the Russian Land, Amsterdam (Wolf Run), Ohio
30. St. Stephen Church, Lorairi, Ohio
31. Nativity of Christ Church, Youngstown, Ohio
32. St. Nicholas Church, Chester, Pennsylvania
33. St. Nicholas Church, Edinboro, Pageville, Pennsylvania
34. St. Nicholas Church, Reading, Pennsylvania
35. Sts. Peter and Paul Church, Mount Union, Pennsylvania
36. St. Nicholas Church, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania
37. St. Andrew the Apostle Church, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
38. St. Michael the Archangel Church, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
39. Sts. Peter and Paul Church, Scranton, Pennsylvania
40. Sts. Peter and Paul Church, Burgaw, North Carolina
41. St. Gregory the Theologian Church, Tampa, Florida
42. Sts. Peter and Paul Church, Manchester, New Hampshire
43. Church of St. George the Great Martyr, Buffalo, New York
44. All Exarchate parishes and clergy in Canada
All of them will be able to access the digital ruble income tax-free
olly-olly-umptenfree
all of them are now kinda oligarchy!
I would turn in all my enemies for the reward, but "fenya"
but if instead, I can find a way to stick a nosh in their kidney and twist it
I'll do that in a heart-beat...
so just watching and waiting for the right opportunity
go GRU (and their expat "contractors")!!
I wanna be
under the sea
in the "Aquarium"
and every Friday, have lunch with the boss
hahah LOL
PS
Pretty soon they'll be taking enemies to the basement of Lubayanka to the rooms with the hoses and drains in the middle of the floor
who can influence who calls out the listed names to add a few?
what difference will just a few more make in this senseless and tragic war...
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The conspicuous absence of the Belarus army, 4 weeks into the war is “interesting”…
Pootin would love to use this army to drive North to South and cut-off the lines of communication of West to East Ukraine…
the Belorussians can by-pass cities, just cut the roads, doesn’t have to be a big fight
this would immediately reduce the flow of American and European weapons to threatened areas like Kyiv and Mykolaiv and so make the job of the Russian forces there easier, but of course, this hasn’t happened...
So far, in this war,
the risk to NATO is nearly ZERO and the gain against Russian forces is ENORMOUS
a war off attrition with Russia, with no losses on the NATO side, how can you NOT take that?
What a deal for NATO!!!
HUGE win for NATO!!!
not so good for Ukraine, Russia is the jealous boyfriend who beats and kills any woman who would ever leave or betray him…
So Pootin has chosen the “Chechan Solution” for Ukraine
because Maidan, meant that Ukraine was gonna leave him for another man…
and Pootin, just couldn’t let it go….
BTW, second Chechen war, which Pootin presided over, lasted 5 months, and ended with the Russian military taking over the country
you would not be able to tell the ruins of Grozny or Mauripol apart from each other
they both look exactly alike
Russia is getting ready to "mobilize"
and go full "medevil on Ukraine's ass"
when the war is over, I'm gonna buy me a castle and my own Ukrainian village
and once more there will be naked young ukrainian girls swimming in my pool
because I have the only swimming pool within 10 miles of the village
ahhhh, good times....
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The conspicuous absence of the Belarus army, 4 weeks into the war is “interesting”…
Pootin would love to use this army to drive North to South and cut-off the lines of communication of West to East Ukraine…
the Belorussians can by-pass cities, just cut the roads, doesn’t have to be a big fight
this would immediately reduce the flow of American and European weapons to threatened areas like Kyiv and Mykolaiv and so make the job of the Russian forces there easier, but of course, this hasn’t happened...
So far, in this war,
the risk to NATO is nearly ZERO and the gain against Russian forces is ENORMOUS
a war off attrition, with no losses on the NATO side, how can you NOT take that?
What a deal for NATO!!!
HUGE win for NATO!!!
not so good for Ukraine, Russia is the jealous boyfriend who beats and kills any woman who would ever leave or betray him…
So Pootin has chosen the “Chechan Solution” for Ukraine
because Maidan, meant that Ukraine was gonna leave him for another man…
and Pootin, just couldn’t let it go….
BTW, second Chechen war, which Pootin presided over, lasted 5 months, and ended with the Russian military taking over the country
you would not be able to tell the ruins of Grozny or Mauripol apart from each other
they both look exactly alike
Russia is getting ready to "mobilize"
and go full "medevil on Ukraine's ass"
when the war is over, I'm gonna buy me a castle and my own Ukrainian village
and once more there will be naked young ukrainian girls swimming in my pool
because I have the only swimming pool within 10 miles of the village
ahhhh, good times....
Really ready to mobilize, are you serious?
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it's coming, oui!
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Really ready to mobilize, are you serious?
"Russia is going to shell its own cities to blame Ukraine"
(Similar to 1999 apartment bombings.)
"Russia can start such kind of provocations to announce mass mobilization."
http://tsn.ua/en/ato/russia-is-going-to-shell-its-own-cities-to-blame-ukraine-head-of-kharkiv-military-civilian-administration-2018350.html
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I wouldn’t trust the “Western Perspective”as described by an elitist Scottish economist any more than I would trust his description of the “Russian Perspective”
Neill Ferguson is an historian, not an economist. The piece was about history, not the Russian perspective, and how the American assumption that continuing war in Ukraine will undermine Putin and cow China is misguided. Ferguson says history doesn't support this.
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Niall frequently writes about economics so I call him that
history and economics are inseparable
the history of Western economix is about as relevant as “The Kardshians” when it comes to Russia
The Narodnaya Volya is ALWAYS someone’s creation
And the government is now in charge of that…
Ukraine is just the catalyst for what is to come, piled on top of Covid...
SHOCK THERAPY BABY!!!
sleepy Russians will wake-y wake-y now!!!
PS
if I were in Russia at this VERY moment, FSB and GRU would be fighting over who "owns" me, and I’d probably be at least under house arrest
in the pogrom season, it's good to understand meterology
in Russia, the dark clouds generally mean it's gonna rain soon...
hmmmmm hmmmmmm....
my knowledge of the Russian perspective comes from hitchin rides with Russian soldiers and bunker diving on Fort Stalin, where I was the first human to ever go to the third level
after it was blown up by the NKVD with hundreds of Russian soldiers inside
I crawled over them and absorbed their knowledge and power...
after I created the opening, midnight archeologists came and explosive salvagers for the big heavy shells
I came there to get high in the dark with them, they were once all part of my "crew" in Krim
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What I don't understand in all of this is why Russia is only using a fraction of its army. Apparently it's Army is HUGE:
http://images.app.goo.gl/Hq1PU5CQ9EoFDJys7
So why don't they take a huge chunk of their army and invade on all fronts?
I half expected them to come down through Belarus towards Lviv and cut of the border, cut of the roads as Boe states to stop the supply of weapons into Ukraine and so give themselves an easier time. I thought they would bring in masses of tanks to overpower Ukrainian cities by sheer number.
I understand they need to protect their other borders but I doubt anyone is going to attack Russia as they have Nukes. So if it were me I would take a large chunk of forces and attack. Only thing I can think of is the economic cost of doing so but I would be surprised if they can't do it for a short while. Other than that would be someone taking control of a large army in one place and initiating a coup that of course could be a possibility.
Other than that I cannot think of a reason why a nation with a large army would attack and go about this almost like they had a small army and had nothing more. Not sure if the above reasons sound out but it just seems a strange thing to do.
Apparently today Mariupol got shelled from the sea, apparently nothing really left of it. I read that it was quite an attractive city before the war, the article said it was middle class, never been there myself so never saw how it was apart from the ariel photos and photos of it shelled out. The Mayor of Mariupol has apparently now fled, managed to get out somehow, his 'excuse' is that he can organise the humanitarian corridors better from outside Mariupol as no communication connection their now. Funny the excuses that such dignitaries come up with to excuse themselves from such situations. I wonder if Mariupol has much left in it before a surrender or they are overrun, food must have run out some time ago now and the soldiers must be exhausted possibly running out of ammo also. Seems Russian units, Chechens have been storming the city fighting street to street gun battles to try and take the place.
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when the war is over, I'm gonna buy me a castle and my own Ukrainian village
and once more there will be naked young ukrainian girls swimming in my pool
because I have the only swimming pool within 10 miles of the village
ahhhh, good times....
Now this is a vision I can get with! :D It strikes a chord with me. Wouldn't mind doing this myself if I had the money. Maybe we could join up and have a party :thumbsup:
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For those of you who thought Ukraine would give up after 2-3 days of Russian invasion.
Here is the work of brave Ukrainian men and women using USA Javelins and Ukrainian Stugna-P.
But Ukraine needs even more Javelins and a resupply of the associated short range projectiles because Russia has a huge number of tanks and military trucks that are waiting to be destroyed.
Western countries are supplying a lot of materials, but the Ukrainian people are fighting alone against dictators and autocracies to save the concept of democracies worldwide.
In the past, the USA has spent billions around the world to try to get democracies established. Here with Ukraine, there is already a democracy that needs saved.
Cheaper and more efficient to save a democracy than to create new ones.
After encountering Ukrainian ability as shown in the clip, the coward Russians want nothing to do with fighting Ukrainians up close and are resorting to chicken shit method of long range missile attacks.
The short clip can be viewed even if you (like me) don't have a Twitter account. Either website works.
http://twitter.com/EuroMaydan/status/1503767160191131658
http://twitter.com/i/status/1503767160191131658
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Niall frequently writes about economics so I call him that
history and economics are inseparable
the history of Western economix is about as relevant as “The Kardshians” when it comes to Russia
The Narodnaya Volya is ALWAYS someone’s creation
And the government is now in charge of that…
Ukraine is just the catalyst for what is to come, piled on top of Covid...
SHOCK THERAPY BABY!!!
sleepy Russians will wake-y wake-y now!!!
PS
if I were in Russia at this VERY moment, FSB and GRU would be fighting over who "owns" me, and I’d probably be at least under house arrest
in the pogrom season, it's good to understand meterology
in Russia, the dark clouds generally mean it's gonna rain soon...
hmmmmm hmmmmmm....
my knowledge of the Russian perspective comes from hitchin rides with Russian soldier’s and bunker diving on Fort Stalin, where I was the first human to ever go to the third level
after it was blown up by the NKVD with hundreds of Russian soldiers inside
I crawled over them and absorbed their knowledge and power...
after I created the opening, midnight archeologists came and explosive salvagers for the big heavy shells
I came there to get high in the dark with them
Krim you are unique
:ROFL: I also understand meteorology and that's why I warned people to not go to Ukraine 33 days before the attack, telling them it will be invaded. A lot of people didn't want to believe me 8)
Krim what have you seen in Fort Stalin (you can write to me in PM)
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it's coming, oui!
You are right, I check it out, but it comes slightly.
The funniest thing is now a lot of guys who have accepted a lovely Russian passport in the DNR are now potentially under mobilization.
What a gift :P
What a joy to become the front-line flag and target of their Ukrainian fellas that wait for them impatiently with their dazzling Western military toys.
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I saw a bunch of dead Russians who didn't smell too bad cuz they were dead so long (mummified) and broken pipes and stacks of shells, and equipment etc.
the upper floor with the taller uncollapsed ceiling became our gang's head quarters
Crimeans got conscripted as well, I have nephews in the Russian army from Crimea, I gave them all iphones to keep track of them, I add their position to the name of their unit I get from when I write them letters :)
so I know where they ALL are!!!
I have many nephews :)
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What I don't understand in all of this is why Russia is only using a fraction of its army. Apparently it's Army is HUGE:
http://images.app.goo.gl/Hq1PU5CQ9EoFDJys7 (http://images.app.goo.gl/Hq1PU5CQ9EoFDJys7)
So why don't they take a huge chunk of their army and invade on all fronts?
I half expected them to come down through Belarus towards Lviv and cut of the border, cut of the roads as Boe states to stop the supply of weapons into Ukraine and so give themselves an easier time. I thought they would bring in masses of tanks to overpower Ukrainian cities by sheer number.
I understand they need to protect their other borders but I doubt anyone is going to attack Russia as they have Nukes. So if it were me I would take a large chunk of forces and attack. Only thing I can think of is the economic cost of doing so but I would be surprised if they can't do it for a short while. Other than that would be someone taking control of a large army in one place and initiating a coup that of course could be a possibility.
Other than that I cannot think of a reason why a nation with a large army would attack and go about this almost like they had a small army and had nothing more. Not sure if the above reasons sound out but it just seems a strange thing to do.
Apparently today Mariupol got shelled from the sea, apparently nothing really left of it. I read that it was quite an attractive city before the war, the article said it was middle class, never been there myself so never saw how it was apart from the ariel photos and photos of it shelled out. The Mayor of Mariupol has apparently now fled, managed to get out somehow, his 'excuse' is that he can organise the humanitarian corridors better from outside Mariupol as no communication connection their now. Funny the excuses that such dignitaries come up with to excuse themselves from such situations. I wonder if Mariupol has much left in it before a surrender or they are overrun, food must have run out some time ago now and the soldiers must be exhausted possibly running out of ammo also. Seems Russian units, Chechens have been storming the city fighting street to street gun battles to try and take the place.
Only if you are into huge coal-fired steel mills and power plants spewing out unscrubbed remnants of the dirty Donbas region coal. Fact is, some time back National Geographic listed Mariupol as among the most polluted cities in the world. When I visited, the only thing visible from a steel mill 100 yards away was the top of the stacks at about 100 ft chugging out filfthy debris that clung to your clothing and skin. Sea of Asov is used to supply cooling water and also to receive effluent. Needless to mention the fish have unhealthy levels of toxins, yet they still show up on your plate at the restaurants.
Still, the city is strategic and the defense has been hard-fought.
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My parents visited Mariupol in 2013. They said it was a very pretty city.
This is an interesting article about an American marine who fought with the Ukrainian army.
http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/american-volunteer-foreign-fighters-ukraine-russia-war/627604/
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The priest gunned down at a checkpoint.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60778909.amp
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Only if you are into huge coal-fired steel mills and power plants spewing out unscrubbed remnants of the dirty Donbas region coal. Fact is, some time back National Geographic listed Mariupol as among the most polluted cities in the world. When I visited, the only thing visible from a steel mill 100 yards away was the top of the stacks at about 100 ft chugging out filfthy debris that clung to your clothing and skin. Sea of Asov is used to supply cooling water and also to receive effluent. Needless to mention the fish have unhealthy levels of toxins, yet they still show up on your plate at the restaurants.
Still, the city is strategic and the defense has been hard-fought.
+1
In Belarus in the Eastern parts, many have forgotten the outcome of Tchernobyl in this region. They are real, milk, fruits put you in danger... (Gomel)
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This is the Twitter account of James Vasquez, anAmerican former soldier who volunteered in Ukraine. He is the only American in his unit. He updates his Twitter account fairly regularly.
http://mobile.twitter.com/jmvasquez1974?lang=en
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You should try and put that link up in the other place,and see if the Putin fanboy owner instantly deletes it..which is his usual MO.
Good news that the Ukrainian military has now re-taken towns up to 35 km East of Kyiv,with the Russians falling back...as confirmed by the British MOD,which also says Russian supply lines are over-extended.
A Russian landing ship and ammunition warehouse was destroyed in Russian occupied Berdyansk yesterday..according to the Ukraine Navy.
The bad news is that Russian forces continue to advance toward Odesa.
Interesting comment from Biden that NATO will respond in kind if Russia uses chemical weapons in Ukraine....wonder what that means ?
The USA and EU have announced a deal for the USA to supply the EU with 15 Billion cubic metres more of LNG this year,with higher amounts next year,as Europe starts to move away from Russian Gas supplies.
The UK gets only 3% of our Gas supply from Russia,so it isn't such an issue for us to replace it from elsewhere.
18,600 UK Visa's have now been granted to Ukrainian refugees.
The Kremlin sees Boris Johnson as public enemy number 1 for his anti-Putin stance ;D
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Similar website set up by the Bank of Ukraine to donate for humanitarian assistance rather than the army.
http://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-rahunok-dlya-gumanitarnoyi-dopomogi-ukrayintsyam-postrajdalim-vid-rosiyskoyi-agresiyi
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My parents visited Mariupol in 2013. They said it was a very pretty city.
This is an interesting article about an American marine who fought with the Ukrainian army.
http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/american-volunteer-foreign-fighters-ukraine-russia-war/627604/
My guess is like most cities moreso ex-Soviet cities the city centre is pretty but most of the residential outskirts less so.
An interesting article, shows that our Javlin & NLAW anti tank gear is really having an effect in turning this war around for Ukraine. Not sure about the Rambo in question looks like he was either a deserter having had enough or told to go as he wasn't really up for it, and after only one month into the war.
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"So part of me has already been thinking about 'Reconstruuuksiya' after this war has all blown over, soon I hope for the sake of the poor Ukrainian people who are unjustly having misery inflicted upon them all."
Dewd, Nyet, forget about working for someone else
ONLY work for yourself…
let me give you a plan Stan,
when the war is over, borrow as much money as you can on your UK property and rent it out
live with yur mom temporarily or something
then take this money and go to Ukraine
and buy 3 contiguous lots of land that have utility access (water, gas, electricity, cable)
then take whatever buildings are on it and fix ‘em up
and build yur own mansion with a swimming pool right in the middle
then surround everything with Apricot trees
you can do whatever “bizness” you want here, discreetly and without ANY interference
ZERO income tax to!
I ran three different "biznezz enterprises" out of what looked like a "Hill Billy Paradise" complete with copper moonshine still
Voila! "The Rancho Del Krimster", now in Russian hands!!!
Trench all this cost me about $60,000 for 3X20 soteks plus existing "shacks" and including an old Lada and a Zhighouli!!!
also about a year of my time, "doing stuff" mainly carpentry and plumbing and electrical
I ended up with what looked like a compound of some kind, that I later put a fence around to keep people out
plus I had straight access to a 480V transformer with .02 per killowatt hr cost and a big yellow gas line for cheap gas as well
ended up digging my own deep drill well for water and solar pool heater
with 2 car garage and huge Metal Gate
and NO POLICE to bribe!!!
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http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44673/ukraine-needs-ground-based-air-defenses-way-more-than-migs-here-are-the-best-options
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We hear a lot about Russian planes being shot down or otherwise destroyed by Ukraine.
But what about Ukrainian planes.
I found this website.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War
A little bit hard to count, but I came up with 20 Ukrainian and 18 Russian as of last update on 22 March 2022.
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You should try and put that link up in the other place,and see if the Putin fanboy owner instantly deletes it..which is his usual MO.
Matthew 10:14.
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Today a trio of Russian generals announced that it had succeeded in sub-goal of diminishing Ukrainian military capability and now Russia would pivot to it's main goal of solidifying control of Donbas.
http://www.reuters.com/world/us/ukraine-urges-halt-russias-assault-biden-heads-poland-2022-03-25/
Quite a come-down from Putin's list of 6 or so demands.
I am hoping that Ukraine will continue to destroy more of Russian troops and equipment . . . and after Russia withdraws its troops from most of Ukraine, Ukraine will send bulk of its army to rout Russia in Donbas.
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A seventh Russian general, Lieutenant General Yakov Rezanstev, has died in Ukraine
http://www.barrons.com/news/russia-signals-less-ambitious-goals-in-ukraine-war-01648252207?tesla=y
and a Russian colonel had been "deliberately" killed by his own demoralized men.
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-commander-deliberately-killed-by-his-own-troops-due-to-ukraine-losses-160618503.html
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and a Russian colonel had been "deliberately" killed by his own demoralized men.
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-commander-deliberately-killed-by-his-own-troops-due-to-ukraine-losses-160618503.html
That tends to happen to Officers (zeros) that do not care or are incompetent and waste the lives of their soldiers. It has happened to the US military in Vietnam, another very unpopular war. Hence the term "fragging" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging)
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"Matthew 10:14."
John #2
Saint Pralidoxime's letter to the Bishop of Atropine
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Matthew 10:14.
Excellent point
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(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/sbr032622dAPC20220326034516.jpg)
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There are now thousands of Belarusians fighting in Ukraine....and they're fighting FOR Ukraine.
They're dissidents against Lukashenko and they hate him as much as the Ukrainians now hate Russia.
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I’ve been an "enlisted man" in two different military systems, USA and Israel…
AND I know the Russian military VERY well :)
Russians suffer from many deficiencies…
The conscript system, means they have a lot of inexperienced soldiers in the lower ranks
and few real professionals
expendable cannon fodder is all they really are…
they don’t EVEN have an NCO corps
the US and Israeli military are VERY dependent on NCOs
Russians instead have jr inexperienced officers
it doesn’t work very well this way, I’ve seen the contrast…
plus, just like in Ukraine, almost everything in the inventory has been looted and sold
hell, I even bought some of it myself
this reminds me of the war with Japan in 1904-1905
when Russia realized it needed to reform it’s Army after being defeated by Japan
Pootin is NOT “Pootin the Great” like “Peter the modernizer”
the kleptocracy has hollowed out Russia and this is the direct result
(but of course, being Russian, they will not accept the responsibility, and instead blame NATO and Amerika
the pendulum in Russia is swinging FAR to the right, Russia is imploding before it explodes
Russia needs NEW leadership, but it will take a 1917 moment to do this
and there’s no opposition, no “People’s Will” to shake shite up
I would trade 5,000 protestors in Moscow, for 5 in the Narodnaya Volya
disclaimer: I am related to one of the conspirators: Hesya Helfman
her relatives moved to Odessa after "the incident next to a church", and then to the USA
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As somebody wrily observed, if Putin had acted on the corruption in the Russian army exposed by Navalny this war would be going a lot better for him.
Also if they had elimninated the horrible hazing tradition in the Russian army they would probably have more motivated conscripts.
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"China has cancelled a $500 million investment in Russian gas"
google it!!
now even China has turned against Pooty-Poot, his only allies are now Trump and a few Republicans and maybe Serbia (a little bit)
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"China has cancelled a $500 million investment in Russian gas"
google it!!
Great News !!
Thanks for posting.
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Looks like Ukraine may have been committing war crimes. That will kill any support they currently have.
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Looks like Ukraine may have been committing war crimes. That will kill any support they currently have.
A quite details report you post here complete with reference URLs.
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You’re referring to the video if shooting out knees? If yes, the “Ukrainians” had Russian accents. It’s not how Russian speakers speak Russian in Ukraine. Furthermore the German based Russian “reporter” who first posted it on Twitter took it down.
Chelseaboy, here are a couple videos you can post for the Nazi obsessed elsewhere.
http://youtu.be/2gNp0PfK0CI
http://youtu.be/GV4v31azgQM
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"Looks like Ukraine may have been committing war crimes."
You mean "special military operations" crimes, right?
Yes, you're right! aggressive Ukrainians have been attacking peaceful Russian cruise missiles with their apartments, dasterdly deeds for sure!!!
if only the lamestream liberul western media would show the result of these attacks on peacful cruise missiles
good thing you have "alternative" media to show you the Pravda, er I mean Truth.... right Tovarisch?
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Another place to make donations.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/the-drone-operators-who-halted-the-russian-armoured-vehicles-heading-for-kyiv
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This is the video I assume Live is referring to.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LR1Oeb-AEes
Everyone in it is speaking with accents from Luhansk or Donetsk. All of them, even the “Russian” soldiers.
This may be fake, but nevertheless, it’s being investigated by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence.
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Kyiv not looking in great shape from this report:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10656961/Civilians-Kyiv-starving-forced-drink-SEWAGE-water-Ukrainian-MP-says.html
Might explain why Zelensky seems to be willing to throw in the towel by stating that Ukraine won't be able to get all the Russian Army out if Ukraine and so angling for a negotiated peace with Russia. I find that remarkable giving the amount of damage Ukraine has been able to inflict upon the Russian Army with demoralisation high in the Russian Army and Putin having to call upon troops with even worse morale and training.
So it looks like despite Kyiv not quite being encircled by Russian troops that it's been difficult for Kyiv to get food deliveries into the city hence I assume why Zelensky is seeing that he may not be able to go all the way and kick Russian troops out of Ukraine.
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Another place to make donations.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/the-drone-operators-who-halted-the-russian-armoured-vehicles-heading-for-kyiv
I was just about to link that. Great minds etc. I sent a PayPal contribution. Quite a straightforward process.
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Is there a direct link to the crowdfund for this ?
I'm not seeing one in the Guardian article.
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Looks like Ukraine may have been committing war crimes. That will kill any support they currently have.
No it won't ..people are more concerned about Russian military/terrorists bombing hospitals and theatres where women and children were hiding,and mass shelling of civilian apartment blocks as they have in Mariupol and Kharkiv.
A few Russian terrorists being knee-capped,if it isn't fake,isn't going to sway support one jot.
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""Looks like Ukraine may have been committing war crimes."
well...
ACTUALLY, these videos were made BY RUSSIANS just for "special" people like you!
I hope it's not TOO UPSETTING for you that not only did "sleepy Joe" whup Trump's pathetic ass,
it now looks like he's gonna do the same to Putin's little Jhoppa as well
the rest of your arguments were just as bogus as your Russian videos
sad...
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Irpin has now been re-taken by Ukrainian forces.
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Is there a direct link to the crowdfund for this ?
I'm not seeing one in the Guardian article.
In I think the fourth paragraph there is a hyperlink on the word crowdfunding. That takes you to their Facebook page. From there is a link to their website. On the link below I chose option 3 via PayPal
http://aerorozvidka.xyz/?fbclid=IwAR3DnrDGRoAhOciXLO79gj8OGQ_rsKp-buRVfC0nSrP6Gm6yUiHrgl4uwbY
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By all means follow that route to be satisfied all is in order.
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Chelseaboy, here are a couple videos you can post for the Nazi obsessed elsewhere.
Boe, thanks for posting this info.
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In I think the fourth paragraph there is a hyperlink on the word crowdfunding. That takes you to their Facebook page. From there is a link to their website. On the link below I chose option 3 via PayPal
http://aerorozvidka.xyz/?fbclid=IwAR3DnrDGRoAhOciXLO79gj8OGQ_rsKp-buRVfC0nSrP6Gm6yUiHrgl4uwbY (http://aerorozvidka.xyz/?fbclid=IwAR3DnrDGRoAhOciXLO79gj8OGQ_rsKp-buRVfC0nSrP6Gm6yUiHrgl4uwbY)
Thanks for that and i've sent them some money through Paypal.
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Looks like Ukraine may have been committing war crimes. That will kill any support they currently have.
" A document has been leaked from Russia with the aim of shooting propaganda videos to discredit the attitude of the Ukrainian military towards Russian prisoners of war," the statement said.
It is noteworthy that the document was issued not by Russian Defense Minister Shoigu, but by "Acting Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation" General Bulgakov.
http://tsn.ua/ato/hakeri-anonymous-zlili-dokument-minoboroni-rf-z-nakazom-znimati-feykovi-video-znuschan-nad-polonenimi-rf-2022592.html
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Is there a direct link to the crowdfund for this ?
I'm not seeing one in the Guardian article.
Here is one.
http://aerorozvidka.xyz/
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Remember the “brave tv presenter”?
http://mobile.twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508201460487659528?s=20&t=qRleAcLAQTB0s9irLG5sug
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For English speaking persons, I highly recommend the book:
“State Secrets: An Insider's Chronicle of the Russian Chemical Weapons Program”
by Vil S Mirzayanov available on Amazon
this gives the absolute best English language description that will help you understand the “news” later on…
ONLY Russian documents are more detailed than this…
to me what’s REALLY funny is right across the street from The State Research Institute of Organic Chemistry and Technology (GosNIIOKhT) is a perfume shop!!!
and the sales women there are REALLY weird!!!
they totally freak out whenever a foreigner walks in!!!
hmmmm hmmmmm....
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Remember the “brave tv presenter”?
http://mobile.twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1508201460487659528?s=20&t=qRleAcLAQTB0s9irLG5sug
We thought she was throwing away a well paid gig for 15 years in a Putin gulag and she instead got a $300 fine...
I saw she later edited the post to remove all mentions of sanctions.
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This is an interesting thread in Russian military “strategy”. It includes plenty of book recommendations.
http://mobile.twitter.com/ProfPaulPoast/status/1507701272203382784?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Here is one.
http://aerorozvidka.xyz/
I havent used Paypal for quite a long time. After using their services to send a donation today i just received an email from them saying:
Hi Steven,
To welcome you back to PayPal, we're giving you the chance to get £5. All you need to do is to sign in via the button below by 31 March 2022 to claim the £5 reward.
So that is another fiver that has just been sent to them!
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I've been using Paypal for 23 years and they've never given me a penny.
Clearly i'm doing something wrong :)
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For English speaking persons, I highly recommend the book:
“State Secrets: An Insider's Chronicle of the Russian Chemical Weapons Program”
by Vil S Mirzayanov available on Amazon
this gives the absolute best English language description that will help you understand the “news” later on…
ONLY Russian documents are more detailed than this…
to me what’s REALLY funny is right across the street from The State Research Institute of Organic Chemistry and Technology (GosNIIOKhT) is a perfume shop!!!
and the sales women there are REALLY weird!!!
they totally freak out whenever a foreigner walks in!!!
hmmmm hmmmmm....
I for one am glad you're back posting on here Krim.
I always enjoy reading your posts,even if i don't always agree with you and sometimes i haven't got a clue what you're posting about.
You have a lot of insight into the FSU ...you even make Uzbekistan sound like a good place to visit. :)
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thanks "bruv"
soon I'm gonna be too busy babysitting young Russian men to post here, I have to pay a lot of attention to them, because they're "displaced persons"
and they don't have much of a clue about ANYTHING, but my daughters are married to them, and their families took EXCELLENT care of my daughters when they were in Russia
so I am honor bound to be a surrogate parent, I have them enrolled in on-line university learning "cyber security" and my daughters help them with homework, etc
I did a k-1 visa for my wife many yrs ago, and now I did 2 k-2's for them, right now they all live in Israel, not many places these malchicky can go to
though I just found out they can apply for temporary asylum here in the USA, so we're getting ready to do that
I may never get back to Russia, I miss my many druzya, everyone is afraid to talk to me now :(
Russia will likely have some kinda economic and social collapse in the not too distant future
two years ago, I thought it was gonna be the USA in the collapse-alypse
how wrong I was, right idea, but wrong locale
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thanks "bruv"
soon I'm gonna be too busy babysitting young Russian men to post here, I have to pay a lot of attention to them, because they're "displaced persons"
and they don't have much of a clue about ANYTHING, but my daughters are married to them, and their families took EXCELLENT care of my daughters when they were in Russia
so I am honor bound to be a surrogate parent, I have them enrolled in on-line university learning "cyber security" and my daughters help them with homework, etc
I did a k-1 visa for my wife many yrs ago, and now I did 2 k-2's for them, right now they all live in Israel, not many places these malchicky can go to
though I just found out they can apply for temporary asylum here in the USA, so we're getting ready to do that
I may never get back to Russia, I miss my many druzya, everyone is afraid to talk to me now :(
Russia will likely have some kinda economic and social collapse in the not too distant future
two years ago, I thought it was gonna be the USA in the collapse-alypse
how wrong I was, right idea, but wrong locale
They're Russian? How come they are out of Russia? Did they fall out of favour with the regime? All not quite work to plan out there?
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When Winter storms are coming
the birds will all fly south
that’s part of their nature
even those who were protecting me
aren’t safe any more
no one is now
and it’s going to get MUCH worse
EVERYTHING in Russia is in an escalating crisis to some degree
I have a LOT of skills to teach my “sons” daughters and future grandchildren
that were taught to me by my Russian great uncles and babooshka
who all dealt with these circumstances in the past as well
life is but a circle
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There’s an AMA on the war with WSJ journalist Yaroslav Trofimov.
http://mobile.twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1508455307361533952
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Russian Deputy Defence Minister claims Russia to drastically reduce military activities around Kyiv and Chernihiv...no doubt because they're getting their arses kicked in those areas now.
Just had a Ukrainian MP on CNN.He was saying the smell in Ukraine is appalling now,because of the dead bodies of Russian soldiers everywhere and the Russians don't take them away,leaving them for Dogs to eat.
I can confirm i've seen plenty of dead Russian/Chechen bodies lying around Kharkiv,even in people's back gardens.on the news reports .
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http://twitter.com/niktwick/status/1508490884794441728
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http://euroradio.fm/en/rail-war-belarus-partisans-prevent-military-trains-going-ukraine
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s5IBXNBc2I
vidish!
a different kind of "Mein Kampf"
Russian families have to send their stariks and starushkas out to sweep up whatever food is available, when it's avialable, just like the Soviet period
these people will TOTALLY "cut-you" in line, so ya have to be prepared to be REALLY aggressive with them
'ahhhhh, good times!
Russians use a chat app, called "Telegram" to barter for medicines and other unobtainium
they have to fly from Moscow to Tashkent to setup banking there and get an Uzbek Visa card!!!
no dollars are available in Moscow AT ALL, NONE!!! they're rarer than a cheeseburger now!
hmmmmm, gamburger....
note: Russians are tryin to "take down" youtube
PS, I LOVE the statue of Lenin in the background, I think he's pointing to the line for sausages!!
hmmm, kolbasa....
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http://twitter.com/niktwick/status/1508490884794441728 (http://twitter.com/niktwick/status/1508490884794441728)
Well i haven't a clue what they're saying but the girl seems well up for it...she raised her weapon and started patting it.
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Well i haven't a clue what they're saying . . .
That's where our FSU gals are useful to have nearby !
Get you one of them there gals.
OK, so I had wife come and watch the video and explain to me.
Each of the young men (I didn't notice until later that one was a woman) stated which town they came from.
Said they were forced into the Russian army.
Then they told how they were only given simple rifle to fight against better equipped Ukrainians and were sure that most of them would die needlessly.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_9qFjmBLKA
if I were Russian, I'd rather take my chances going up against the Ukrainian Army than shopping in Russia and going up against determined staroshkas lookin to score some chai
slovo!!
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Russian Deputy Defence Minister claims Russia to drastically reduce military activities around Kyiv and Chernihiv...no doubt because they're getting their arses kicked in those areas now.
Just had a Ukrainian MP on CNN.He was saying the smell in Ukraine is appalling now,because of the dead bodies of Russian soldiers everywhere and the Russians don't take them away,leaving them for Dogs to eat.
I can confirm i've seen plenty of dead Russian/Chechen bodies lying around Kharkiv,even in people's back gardens.on the news reports .
Russia says it's to redeploy to the Donbass but I wouldn't be surprised if they instead go back to Belarus, across and then strike down towards Lviv. Makes sense to cut off or at least hinder supplies of weapons and food to Central & Eastern Ukraine. They've been hitting targets around Lviv of recently and that makes more sense as a prelude to attack. I think the Donbass is a smoke screen, I've no doubt they want it but it's also foolish to tell your enemy what you are going to do.
Probably a good few more weeks of this to go yet. I reckon that neither side will want to be premeptive at the negotiating table but will no that only fighting it out will likely decide who will have to concede over the Donbass.
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Kyiv not looking in great shape from this report:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10656961/Civilians-Kyiv-starving-forced-drink-SEWAGE-water-Ukrainian-MP-says.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10656961/Civilians-Kyiv-starving-forced-drink-SEWAGE-water-Ukrainian-MP-says.html)
Might explain why Zelensky seems to be willing to throw in the towel by stating that Ukraine won't be able to get all the Russian Army out if Ukraine and so angling for a negotiated peace with Russia. I find that remarkable giving the amount of damage Ukraine has been able to inflict upon the Russian Army with demoralisation high in the Russian Army and Putin having to call upon troops with even worse morale and training.
So it looks like despite Kyiv not quite being encircled by Russian troops that it's been difficult for Kyiv to get food deliveries into the city hence I assume why Zelensky is seeing that he may not be able to go all the way and kick Russian troops out of Ukraine.
Russia has 12,000 troops east of Kyiv who are now. in real danger of being encircled by Ukrainian forces.
The re-supplying of those Russian troops had been coming from the southern edge of Sumy.
Guess what ?
Ukrainian troops have now taken the southern edge of Sumy which means no more supplies for those 12,000 Russian troops east of Kyiv...they're now in serious trouble.
There's the reason why the Kremlin is talking about drastically reducing Russian military activity around Kyiv and Chernihiv...they're attempting to retreat and re-group.
Hopefully the Ukrainian forces will now manage to surround them and bombard them without mercy,just as those same Russian terrorists have been bombarding civilians in Kyiv , and finish off those 12.000 Russian troops .handing Putin a disastrous defeat.
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What I don't understand in all of this is why Russia is only using a fraction of its army. Apparently it's Army is HUGE:
http://images.app.goo.gl/Hq1PU5CQ9EoFDJys7 (http://images.app.goo.gl/Hq1PU5CQ9EoFDJys7)
So why don't they take a huge chunk of their army and invade on all fronts?
I half expected them to come down through Belarus towards Lviv and cut of the border, cut of the roads as Boe states to stop the supply of weapons into Ukraine and so give themselves an easier time. I thought they would bring in masses of tanks to overpower Ukrainian cities by sheer number.
I understand they need to protect their other borders but I doubt anyone is going to attack Russia as they have Nukes. So if it were me I would take a large chunk of forces and attack. Only thing I can think of is the economic cost of doing so but I would be surprised if they can't do it for a short while. Other than that would be someone taking control of a large army in one place and initiating a coup that of course could be a possibility.
Other than that I cannot think of a reason why a nation with a large army would attack and go about this almost like they had a small army and had nothing more. Not sure if the above reasons sound out but it just seems a strange thing to do.
Apparently today Mariupol got shelled from the sea, apparently nothing really left of it. I read that it was quite an attractive city before the war, the article said it was middle class, never been there myself so never saw how it was apart from the ariel photos and photos of it shelled out. The Mayor of Mariupol has apparently now fled, managed to get out somehow, his 'excuse' is that he can organise the humanitarian corridors better from outside Mariupol as no communication connection their now. Funny the excuses that such dignitaries come up with to excuse themselves from such situations. I wonder if Mariupol has much left in it before a surrender or they are overrun, food must have run out some time ago now and the soldiers must be exhausted possibly running out of ammo also. Seems Russian units, Chechens have been storming the city fighting street to street gun battles to try and take the place.
Apparently ( this is from a very good source ),Russia has 75% of it's Battalion Active Groups now in Ukraine...these are elite combat-ready troops.
Russia does have more troops of course.but they're not combat ready and wouldn't survive a week in Ukraine.
Each Battalion has 800 troops...and there are 125 Battalions in Ukraine
The problem for Russia is that the average loss for each Battalion now stands at around 30%,which means many of the Battalions are in disarray with their chains of command smashed.
This is why the Ukrainian forces are increasingly confident they will win the war.
They're asking for more support from the West..not to win the war..but to win the war faster,so they incur less casualties among their military and civilians.
The USA is now training Ukrainian military in Poland on the use of the more advanced weapons being sent.
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Ukrainian forces have now attacked Belgorod in Russia.as per TASS
A Russian forward operation base SW of Belgorod was hit by Ukrainian Artillery fire, and a weapons storage facility was destroyed with multiple huge explosions just outside Belgorod.with an SRBM strike...although TASS claims that part was an accident.
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http://twitter.com/niktwick/status/1508490884794441728
The same has happened in Luhansk according to my wife's family. Most of the men 18 - 60 were rounded up and shipped out.
My wife's daughter personally knows two young men that have been killed already.
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Remember the “giant convoy” of Russian trucks that were headed for Kyiv?
It failed because of a series of night ambushes carried out by a team of 30 Ukrainian special forces and drone operators on quad bikes!
The drone operators were drawn from an air reconnaissance unit, Aerorozvidka, which began eight years ago as a group of volunteer IT specialists and hobbyists
Here’s their web site:
http://aerorozvidka.xyz/
The “Guardian” did a piece on them
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/the-drone-operators-who-halted-the-russian-armoured-vehicles-heading-for-kyiv
Although, I prefer “The Sun” especially “back in the day” when they had the Page 3 girls!
Sweet!
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What if Putin Didn’t Miscalculate?
Quote from Article
"Suppose for a moment that Putin never intended to conquer all of Ukraine:
that, from the beginning, his real targets were the energy riches of Ukraine’s
east, which contain Europe’s second-largest known reserves of natural gas
(after Norway’s).
Combine that with Russia’s previous territorial seizures in Crimea (which
has huge offshore energy fields) and the eastern provinces of Luhansk and
Donetsk (which contain part of an enormous shale-gas field), as well as
Putin’s bid to control most or all of Ukraine’s coastline, and the shape of
Putin’s ambitions become clear. He’s less interested in reuniting the
Russian-speaking world than he is in securing Russia’s energy dominance.
“Under the guise of an invasion, Putin is executing an enormous heist,”
said Canadian energy expert David Knight Legg. As for what’s left of a
mostly landlocked Ukraine, it will likely become a welfare case for the West,
which will help pick up the tab for resettling Ukraine’s refugees to new
homes outside of Russian control."
read the entire article here
http://dnyuz.com/2022/03/29/what-if-putin-didnt-miscalculate/
Remember when Putin attacked Georgia he gained nearly 1/2 of the Black Sea
Coastline in the aftermath.
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What if Putin Didn’t Miscalculate?
Quote from Article
"Suppose for a moment that Putin never intended to conquer all of Ukraine:
that, from the beginning, his real targets were the energy riches of Ukraine’s
east, which contain Europe’s second-largest known reserves of natural gas
(after Norway’s).
Combine that with Russia’s previous territorial seizures in Crimea (which
has huge offshore energy fields) and the eastern provinces of Luhansk and
Donetsk (which contain part of an enormous shale-gas field), as well as
Putin’s bid to control most or all of Ukraine’s coastline, and the shape of
Putin’s ambitions become clear. He’s less interested in reuniting the
Russian-speaking world than he is in securing Russia’s energy dominance.
“Under the guise of an invasion, Putin is executing an enormous heist,”
said Canadian energy expert David Knight Legg. As for what’s left of a
mostly landlocked Ukraine, it will likely become a welfare case for the West,
which will help pick up the tab for resettling Ukraine’s refugees to new
homes outside of Russian control."
read the entire article here
http://dnyuz.com/2022/03/29/what-if-putin-didnt-miscalculate/
Remember when Putin attacked Georgia he gained nearly 1/2 of the Black Sea
Coastline in the aftermath.
....bottom line, the cost (From russian perspective) may be worth it, if Russia ends up with territory and resources like the article speaks of. Sanctions and pariah state (From western states) will be harmful but not fatal. Meanwhile eastern connections and black market would suffice I suppose.
Fathertime!
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Nope! Pootin's strategic calculations aren't based on this...
Ukrainian gas fields are a mouse fart in comparison to what he already has in the far east and in the North!
Not worth it just to increase his gas reserves by another 1%
No…
what he wants is the land and the people
look at this map…
Russia has to defend a huge western border, and the demographics can’t support it
you can’t defend this border in the West, AND the one in the East with the forces he has today
and the demographics will get worse
if he “takes” Ukraine and Belarus, it GREATLY shrinks his Western border which will require less military resources (see pic)
and taking fellow slavs will help reduce his demographic problem
also, it will mean Western companies won’t be able to build LNG plants on Ukraine’s coast
and he can probably create conditions that will make it difficult for Romania and Bulgaria to host LNG plants without paying an insurance penalty which’ll raise their price, reduce competitiveness, etc
and, Pootin has a messianic vision of himself, as the restorer of Russian greatness, which requires unification of the slavs
secondarily, “Friends of Pootin” will get the spoils, this keeps their loyalty
the main reason that Ukrainian land is SO IMPORTANT, is FOOD!
Pootin knows that in the not too distant future, food will be a MUCH more important commodity than oil or gas
in general, Ukraine integrated with Russia is much more economically efficient, than being separated,
Ukraine's industrial economy didn’t do well because they were too dependent on producing things for Russia, instead of being independent, due to incompetent, corrupt management
IMHO, it's ALWAYS a mistake to use the military for this purpose
he was doing GREAT with the "hybrid warfare" approach against the West and Ukraine
after Maidan, he shoulda intensified this and got back on track by subverting Ukraine from within
this is how Russia got Ukraine in the first place...
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Boris Johnson has today said that the economic sanctions against Russia will not be lifted until every last Russian soldier has left Ukraine...including Crimea.
He also said that Ukraine and other eastern European countries outside NATO,will now be armed to the teeth by the west..so much so that they will become Porcupines to Russia.
Could it be that Putin has made such a howler that, in attempting a further land grab in Ukraine, he actually loses the land he'd already stolen ?
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In Ukraine’s shoes, assuming the locals want to be part of Russia, I would let Crimea and the Donbas region now in Russian control go. I would demand a referendum, overseen by independent observers. If a free election were held, I suspect both areas would vote to join Russia. If so there’s no net gain to Ukraine in keeping them.
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Pootin invaded Ukraine for the same reasons as Hitler
Pootin will withdraw ONLY if he is pushed back, same as Hitler…
otherwise his strategy will be to “up the ante”
until Ukraine and NATO fold, because the bet he placed
is TOO high for them to cover….
he will reposition his weapons from attacking Kyiv to bombing the kakashka out of the 5 main roads from Western Ukraine and the main rail line
to reduce the flow of western weapons eastward and south
and also cut off Ukraine from the chorny moira
to trigger holodomor dva
I have my camera all setup on a tripod by the backdoor of the porch
so that when the Russian atomic demo lights up the night sky
I get a good picture
then he’ll replace the opytnyy soldiers in Ukraine
with novichok ones
and tell NATO, "bring it suki"
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What I see currently is Ukraine cities being demolished, one by one.
I see the price of gas up through the roof.
I see the Russian ruble is completely recovered.
I see many of the non-western powers trading in their own currencies with Russia. China restated their relationship has no limits again.
The dollar is being discarded.
This is a disaster on many levels.
If we can call any nation winners it is China, India, African nations perhaps. Certain Asian nations.
It is hard to say if Russian demands have changed at this point. Now that they seemingly have suffered loses, and are a pariah state, they may decide to take everything regardless of what the cost is. If Zelensky is still actually calling the shots, I'd be curious how he is weighing the current circumstances.
Fathertime!
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Putin has signed a decree to draft 134,000 Russians into the military.
I'm guessing the official Kremlin figure of 1,351 Russian military killed in Ukraine is a bit on the low side. :rolleyes:
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....bottom line, the cost (From russian perspective) may be worth it, if Russia ends up with territory and resources like the article speaks of. Sanctions and pariah state (From western states) will be harmful but not fatal. Meanwhile eastern connections and black market would suffice I suppose.
Fathertime!
The sanctions on Russia were mostly a joke. A few Oligarchs lost their yachts
and little else. The Russian bank increased interest rates to 20% and the Ruble
has mostly stabilized
The only people who thought that the Biden sanctions would be harmful to
Russia were the people at CNN and other left wing activists organizations.
Clearly the sanctions are more harmful to American citizens, especially
the poor. Luckily they have Dementia boy looking out for them.
(http://www.exchangerates.org.uk/graphs/USD-RUB-60-day-exchange-rate-history-graph-large.png)
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2tall,
The exchange rate is only one of many factors. Sanctions can take months to be felt and are tough to get pulled back, giving them longer-term effects.
In large, exchange rates, like the stock market reflects investor sentiment. The difference with currencies is that governments can take actions to prop up their currencies, like raising interest rates. Inflation also raises internal demand.
EU is getting hit pretty hard as well, but gas prices have fallen a good bit here. The government reduced gas taxes. It's not just your 'Dementia boy' alone that is imposing sanctions so your blame is misplaced.
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Beel,
here’s how sanctions work:
Russian: Can I haz cheeseburger now?
Amerika: NYET!!!
Russian: (with sarcasm)Spossiba Putin
sanctions are the anvil
Amerikan and Euro weapons are the big hammer
Ukraine is the blacksmith
Russia is the horseshoe on the anvil
all ist klar, herr kommisar?
All my Russian vendors on ebay are gone now – THANKS BIDEN!!!
PS: guy I really feel sorry for is one of the Russian military attaches in the Mexican embassy - check out the name - second from the bottom LOL!!!
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all ist klar, herr kommisar?
Alles klar Herr Kommissar?
;)
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I haz accent
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The sanctions on Russia were mostly a joke. A few Oligarchs lost their yachts and little else. The Russian bank increased interest rates to 20% and the Ruble has mostly stabilized
The only people who thought that the Biden sanctions would be harmful to Russia were the people at CNN and other left wing activists organizations.
Clearly the sanctions are more harmful to American citizens, especially the poor. Luckily they have Dementia boy looking out for them.
Inflation is over 15% in Russia.
The ruble has stabilized because it isn't traded, and the Central Bank has poured a lot of foreign reserves into it.
During the Soviet period, the ruble was "more valuable" than the USD, because the central government set its rate. That's sort of the same thing right now. Here's a good article from the WSJ.
The ruble is in a central-bank-induced coma.
While Russia’s currency can still see sharp swings in a day, it has trimmed its steep losses and begun to stabilize. It is now trading at around 99 rubles to the dollar, about 17% weaker than it was before Russian troops invaded Ukraine (http://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-russia-war-invasion-whats-happening-11646157211?mod=article_inline) on Feb. 24 but stronger than its record low of 151 on March 7, according to FactSet.
Rising currency prices often reflect a general strengthening of a country’s economic outlook. Not so in Russia. Rather, central bank moves to limit ruble selling and force ruble buying have effectively manufactured demand for the currency.
Russia capped the amount of dollars that residents can withdraw from foreign-currency bank accounts and barred banks from selling foreign currencies (http://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-03-09/card/moscow-limits-foreign-currency-trading-to-shore-up-struggling-ruble-dgTDTQdEOkO3wgoFyC3I?mod=article_inline) to customers for the next six months. Russian brokerages also aren’t allowed to let foreign clients sell securities. These measures have made it more difficult to sell the ruble, thereby limiting its losses.
Western sanctions against Russia left carve-outs for exporters of energy upon which Europe is particularly dependent, which kept dollars and euros flowing into the country. Russia ordered those exporters to sell 80% of their foreign-currency revenues and buy rubles, helping the currency appreciate.
“It is fair to say that the ruble is not a market price,” said Robin Brooks, chief economist at the Institute of International Finance. “If there were a free flow in both directions, we would see a far weaker ruble.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin (http://www.wsj.com/topics/person/vladimir-putin) recently said he wants European nations to begin buying Russian gas with rubles (http://www.wsj.com/articles/vladimir-putin-wants-europe-to-pay-for-gas-in-rubles-11648047487?mod=article_inline) rather than dollars and euros. That would reverse the current flow of money, making sanctioning nations support Russia’s currency and ensuring that all funds from energy sales support its value, said Christian Kopf, head of fixed income at asset manager Union Investment. Such a move is unlikely, but it signals Russia’s desire to boost demand for the ruble.
Cold War 2.0? The Global Economic Impact of Sanctions Against Russia
(http://images.wsj.net/im-509307?width=540)
Currencies often move with the ups and downs of a country’s economy. Investors want to put money into economies they think will thrive, buying stocks and bonds denominated in that country’s tender.
It is harder to take such insights from the ruble. Hundreds of companies have announced a withdrawal from Russia, meaning imports are likely to contract. At the same time, Russia is continuing to sell its oil, meaning exports and money gained from those will more than make up for the money necessary for imports. Oil prices above $100 a barrel are also adding a boost to revenue, even as Moscow’s inventories trade at a discount (http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-scrambles-to-maintain-oil-sales-life-blood-of-economy-11646156655?mod=article_inline). The imbalance could strengthen the ruble, though it doesn’t make Russia’s economy any stronger.
“There’s so much stuff you’re not allowed to buy or sell,” said George Pearkes, a macro strategist at Bespoke Investment Group. “The ruble could strengthen a lot from here, and it wouldn’t mean anything.”
After the war broke out, the ruble market split to have one value within Russia and another on international markets. In onshore trading, Russia’s currency was valued at 94 rubles to the dollar on Monday while it traded at 98 in international markets. That gap has narrowed from early March.
Russian banks offered slightly fewer rubles for customers’ dollars than the Moscow Exchange on Monday. Sberbank PJSC offered about 89 rubles for a dollar while the Russian website of Austria’s Raiffeisen Bank (http://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/RAIFY) quoted 86.
Many Western banks are no longer providing electronic quotes to buy and sell the ruble. Clients instead must call up the bank and ask if it is willing to process a trade and at what rate. Banks, worried about running afoul of Western sanctions, are having to clear every ruble transaction with their legal and compliance departments, traders say.
European countries have announced plans to shift away from Russian energy in the coming years, which also will weaken the ruble over the long term.
“We’re looking at a Russian ruble that is longer-term significantly weakened,” said Jane Foley, head of foreign-exchange strategy at Rabobank.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-russias-central-bank-engineered-the-rubles-rebound-11648458200 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-russias-central-bank-engineered-the-rubles-rebound-11648458200)
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The ruble has stabilized because it isn't traded, and the Central Bank has poured a lot of foreign reserves into it.
Here's a good article from the WSJ.
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Boe thanks for posting this excellent article.
I couldn't have written a better explanation myself. :-)
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Putin has signed a decree to draft 134,000 Russians into the military.
I'm guessing the official Kremlin figure of 1,351 Russian military killed in Ukraine is a bit on the low side. :rolleyes:
This is quite normal though, Russia has two conscript periods, one is april 1 and one in the winter, both have a number around 100 000 each period.
Written in the constitution is that a conscript can not be sent to the front until 4 months of training :rolleyes: unless country is under Martial Law
4 months = cannonfodder
I can highly recommend 'Walter Report' on Twitter (that's a space - aka audio)
One of these two almost always host them (24/7)
http://twitter.com/walterlekh
(http://twitter.com/walterlekh)
http://twitter.com/ferlain (http://twitter.com/ferlain)
Can be listened to both with app or on computer, on the twitter app you can join in and ask questions.
A lot of eyewitness reports, Ukrainians living in different parts join in, sometimes a soldier or two with first hand reports from the front, and of course a lot of both European and American ex. soldiers or other very knowledgeable people in a lot of areas.
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Interest rates at 20 percent and inflation at around 15 percent or more will combined have a very damaging effect on the Russian economy. Money will be getting worth a lot less and if Russians have loans on variable rate it will make them very expensive not least to say about the ability to borrow. In the shops in Russia there are many empty shelves, food queues, etc. If all of that results in widespread discontent & civil disorder in Russia, Pootin could find him having his hands full there. Combine that with the best of their army being busted up and performing poorly and it could all come back to haunt Pootin.
I think sanctions and supplying Ukraine with defensive anti tank weapons is proving to be a winning strategy. Boris has stated that sanctions should be ramped up to bust up the Russian economy even harder. That and we are sending more weapons to Ukraine to further the winning strategy there. I think there is a possibility if we can bust up the Russian economy and army enough the whole of the Russian Federation may de-federate and a second break up of Russian territory occur. All of those Oligarchs in Russia probably eager to lead their own country and get out from under the thumb of Pootin.
Winter is coming to an end here in the west, in addition to talking usage of Gas In think if we temporarily banned the use of Gas to residential property and instead used microwaves for a short period we could really cut our reliance on Gas over the Spring & Summer throughout Europe. That could really make a dent in the Russian economy along with other further sanctions. I think a total ban on Russian companies and products being sold in the West would really do the trick, in a few weeks we could collapse in Russia and remove their overly aggressive bullying nature for good :)
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In Ukraine’s shoes, assuming the locals want to be part of Russia, I would let Crimea and the Donbas region now in Russian control go. I would demand a referendum, overseen by independent observers. If a free election were held, I suspect both areas would vote to join Russia. If so there’s no net gain to Ukraine in keeping them.
+1
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Ukrainian woman whose village was stormed by Russian troops says they wore her clothes, stole money, and drunkenly shot off her husband's leg
A Ukrainian woman whose village was stormed by Russian troops over the weekend told CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/26/ukraine-russia-war-hospital-victims-kiley-nr-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/russia-ukraine-military-conflict/) they wore her clothes, stole money, and drunkenly shot her husband in the leg.
The woman told CNN that the Russian troops were acting out of control as they ransacked her home in a village close to Brovary, an eastern suburb of Kyiv.
"They wore my woman's hat, my coat, my boots. They wore our clothes. They took our bedding ... I don't know what they've done with it," she told CNN in an emotional interview. "They slept. They ate. They wandered about. They stole our money."
She also told CNN one of the Russians was drunk and used a stolen shotgun to blow her husband's leg off. She added that two of the troops later admitted that they didn't support Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
She said she attended to her husband in the basement of their home for two days before bringing him to the main hospital in Brovary, where CNN interviewed her.
Her husband was lying in a hospital bed next to her with his leg bandaged as she was being interviewed.
http://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-woman-whose-village-stormed-101536095.html
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Ukrainian woman whose village was stormed by Russian troops says they wore her clothes, stole money, and drunkenly shot off her husband's leghttp://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-woman-whose-village-stormed-101536095.html (http://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-woman-whose-village-stormed-101536095.html)
Rapes have started also.
Killing civilians on spot also, probably at least hundreds.
They seem to deport also a lot of people.
Intimidation of individuals has started in the territories they control.
That's just the beginning and we aim to a dirty war as it happened in Tchetchenia.
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Oil depot in Belgorod,Russia now hit by an attack by seemingly two Ukrainian Helicopters.
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Inflation is over 15% in Russia.
Of course the central bank took huge actions to get it under
control. That's what central banks do.
What do you think the true inflation rate is in the USA? The US
is totally cooking the books to report it as 7.9% I would be
surprised if the real US inflation rate was less than 15%.
In my anecdotal situation, I can easily see what is happening to
prices of gas, food, cars and construction materials.
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The ruble has stabilized because it isn't traded
http://www.forex.com/en-us/forex-trading/usd-rub/
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Oil depot in Belgorod,Russia now hit by an attack by seemingly two Ukrainian Helicopters.
I thought that your statement warranted an article with a video. The Belgorod
fuel depot is approximately 20 kilometers (12 miles) from the Ukrainian border.
WATCH: Missiles strike oil depot in Belgorod, Russia
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-60953243
Moscow says Ukraine hit a fuel depot inside Russia
http://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-strikes-fuel-depot-russias-belgorod-regional-official-says-2022-04-01/
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Chernobyl has now been abandoned by Russian troops..with the last of them leaving this morning.
There are reports that the Russian troops started becoming ill with Radiation poisoning.
What this has done is leave 20,000 Russian troops around Kyiv totally isolated and surrounded by Ukrainian troops.
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in Russia, "News" reports YOU!!! so here is Roskomnadzor free news showing status of "special military operation"
is now time for Russ-see-ya to switch to plan "Beh", the one from the GazProm focus group....
win, by whatever means necessary
Special Military Operations Gaz Table Edin
Hydrogen cyanide – Sarin is 81 times more lethal
Phosgene– Sarin is 43 times more lethal
Sulfur mustard – Sarin is 28 times more lethal
Chlorine– Sarin is 543 times more lethal
VX is 6.5 times more lethal than sarin
Novichok is 65 times more lethal than sarin
Russian Disinformatze is always simple....
accuse "Enemy" of doing what you're going to do first
then DO IT!!
example:
when you want to "steal the vote", you create organization called "Stop The Steal"
see how easy?
so when you hear of Russian accusations against Ukraine
thern you'll know
that the excrement is about to hit the "reciprocating cooling device"
and ya'll better not be standing in front of it
slovo!
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Chernobyl has now been abandoned by Russian troops..with the last of them leaving this morning.
There are reports that the Russian troops started becoming ill with Radiation poisoning.
What this has done is leave 20,000 Russian troops around Kyiv totally isolated and surrounded by Ukrainian troops.
I cannot imagine, letting XXXX soldiers for weeks in such region :cluebat:
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I don't understand how Russia is able to destroy Mariupol.
What are they using ?
Why Ukraine can't attack and destroy whatever it is Russia is using?
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"I cannot imagine, letting XXXX soldiers for weeks in such region"
ain’t no liberte, egalite, fraternite in Russia, mon amie
you need to take a walk on the dark side to appreciate Russia
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Chernobyl has now been abandoned by Russian troops..with the last of them leaving this morning.
There are reports that the Russian troops started becoming ill with Radiation poisoning.
What this has done is leave 20,000 Russian troops around Kyiv totally isolated and surrounded by Ukrainian troops.
If Ukraine could surround RF forces in N of Kiev and in NE (Sumy) they could potentially in the next 10 days destroy 2 RF divisions.
This means more than 20000 soldiers out of action and 250 main battles (part of them will be reused by Ukraine).
In the WW2 on the Barbarossa front the engaging and destroying strategy has always been a winner, better than seizing and holding.
On the long term, you cannot easily replace regular and elite troops, and your heavy equipment faster than your losses with the first strategy.
And I don't believe that the RF is producing 20 main tanks per day and the necessary skilled tanks crews.
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"I cannot imagine, letting XXXX soldiers for weeks in such region"
ain’t no liberte, egalite, fraternite in Russia, mon amie
you need to take a walk on the dark side to appreciate Russia
Krim, my friend, I have been living 12 years in a dictature, fortunately, I was protected with my French passport, so I DO know very well what happens in this type of regime when they corner full throttle on the dark side.
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If Ukraine could surround RF forces in N of Kiev and in NE (Sumy) they could potentially in the next 10 days destroy 2 RF divisions.
This means more than 20000 soldiers out of action and 250 main battles (part of them will be reused by Ukraine).
In the WW2 on the Barbarossa front the engaging and destroying strategy has always been a winner, better than seizing and holding.
On the long term, you cannot easily replace regular and elite troops, and your heavy equipment faster than your losses with the first strategy.
And I don't believe that the RF is producing 20 main tanks per day and the necessary skilled tanks crews.
I hope Ukrainian military is thinking of this.
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Krim, my friend, I have been living 12 years in a dictature, fortunately, I was protected with my French passport, so I DO know very well what happens in this type of regime when they corner full throttle on the dark side.
Hi Pat. 'have been living' is current tense which I don't think you meant to infer.
Do you mean to say 'I previously lived 12 years in a dictatorship.'
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I don't understand how Russia is able to destroy Mariupol.
What are they using ?
Why Ukraine can't attack and destroy whatever it is Russia is using?
Artillery, both conventional and rocket based
When we asked a soldier down there that same question he answered, "we do destroy them as much as we can, Russia just have a shitload of them and brings in more all the time."
The recent eyewitnesses that gotten out from the city talks about planes dropping bombs every 2-3 minutes in the last weeks since they got caught of from the rest of Ukraine and no air-defense could get to them anymore
so yeah, that's how they do it.
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Hi Pat. 'have been living' is current tense which I don't think you meant to infer.
Do you mean to say 'I previously lived 12 years in a dictatorship.'
Correct, that's what I mean "'I previously lived 12 years in a dictatorship.'
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This is the exploit that Ukrainian have achieved: :P Kroutoï !!!!
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/45020/ukrainian-mi-24-attack-helicopters-fly-daring-cross-border-strike-on-russia-reports (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/45020/ukrainian-mi-24-attack-helicopters-fly-daring-cross-border-strike-on-russia-reports)
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Read carefully:"Belgorod sits roughly just 18 miles north of the border with Ukraine, but there are a huge amount of Russian forces arrayed between there and Kharkiv, Ukraine's second-largest city, which has been under assault from Russian forces since the war began. The possible fact that lowly Mi-24s were able to infiltrate Russia in such a heavily militarized area to make such a brazen attack would be a damning indictment of Russia's air defense capabilities. That area would be especially heavily populated by layers of air defense systems, including many short-range units that are specifically designed to target and engage low-flying helicopters in any conditions."
That's truly heroic. Unbelievable.
So I do believe at this moment the Russian air commander is having a bad time and preparing his chimodan to join few Ukrainians who are sent to the far East of Russia for political refurbishing.
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This is the exploit that Ukrainian have achieved: :P Kroutoï !!!!
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/45020/ukrainian-mi-24-attack-helicopters-fly-daring-cross-border-strike-on-russia-reports (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/45020/ukrainian-mi-24-attack-helicopters-fly-daring-cross-border-strike-on-russia-reports)
Wife told me of this incident this morning.
She said her Ukrainian sources stated that some of the external features of the helicopters indicated they were Russian, not Ukrainian.
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Wife told me of this incident this morning.
She said her Ukrainian sources stated that some of the external features of the helicopters indicated they were Russian, not Ukrainian.
It is very discussed on twitter on who really did this, everyone seems to have their mind made up..
A good joke came out of it
"Jens Stoltenberg called Orc president Putin and asked him if he wanted Nato to enforce a nofly zone over the Ukraine-Russian border to prevent such heinous attacks"
because IF it is truly Ukraine who did this, this is a propaganda win, pants down mr Poootin
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Tell me the benefits for the RF to send two helicopters striking their home depots in Belgorod?I would like to know.
Initially, it was believed that was a Ukrainian missile.
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Tell me the benefits for the RF to send two helicopters striking their home depots in Belgorod?I would like to know.
Initially, it was believed that was a Ukrainian missile.
Ukraine's top security official says Ukraine was NOT behind helicopter air strike on the oil depot in Belgorod, Russia - Reuters
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putting on a "bear costume" is actually a good way to go bear hunting without getting mauled first...
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Tell me the benefits for the RF to send two helicopters striking their home depots in Belgorod?I would like to know.
Initially, it was believed that was a Ukrainian missile.
It would be a false flag operation so Russia can justify an escalation of the war.
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It would be a false flag operation so Russia can justify an escalation of the war.
One wonders how much more they (Russia) can escalate. Indiscriminate bombing of civilian populations, raiding humanitarian goods destined for children and elderly, leveling an entire city beyond any military strategic or tactical purpose.
Escalation would seem to be chemical warfare or nuclear attack. How else can Russia escalate matters from this point?
Further, Ukraine is retaliating. They did not initiate. If Ukraine has managed to find a way to take the fight to Russian soil, Russia has only itself to blame for creating the war in the first place.
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I can't understand the rationale behind Russian Helicopters striking the fuel depot in Russia.
It wouldn't make sense as a false flag operation..nobody was killed and Ukraine would be perfectly entitled to make the strike so close to their border to prevent Russian Military re-fuelling there.
If it was done to prevent an unlikely peace deal then Russia had no intention of having a peace deal anyway and could just say so.
Is it possible they were captured Helicopters,used by Ukrainians,who then said "not us guv,you can see they're not our Helicopters * ?
Is it possible, if they were Russian pilots, that they thought they were hitting a target in Ukraine.being close to the border ?
Are there any other countries that use those particular Helicopters in the area who thought they'd give Ukraine a hand ?
Or is it Russia attempted a false flag operation ,using the Helicopters under cover of the night,not thinking that someone would get good enough film to show that they're Russian not Ukrainian Helicopters ?
All a bit embarrassing for the Kremlin if caught out trying a false flag attempt on their own city if it's the latter.
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Ukraine's top security official says Ukraine was NOT behind helicopter air strike on the oil depot in Belgorod, Russia - Reuters
I'm watching CNN now and Ukraine has neither confirmed or denied the strike.
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I'm watching CNN now and Ukraine has neither confirmed or denied the strike.
"For some reason they say that we did it, but according to our information this does not correspond to reality," said Security Council Secretary Oleksiy Danilov.
Earlier, defence ministry spokesman Oleksandr Motuzyanyk said he would neither confirm nor deny a Ukrainian role.
"Ukraine is currently conducting a defensive operation against Russian aggression on the territory of Ukraine, and this does not mean that Ukraine is responsible for every catastrophe on Russia's territory," he said.
http://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-strikes-fuel-depot-russias-belgorod-regional-official-says-2022-04-01/ (http://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-strikes-fuel-depot-russias-belgorod-regional-official-says-2022-04-01/)
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One wonders how much more they (Russia) can escalate. Indiscriminate bombing of civilian populations, raiding humanitarian goods destined for children and elderly, leveling an entire city beyond any military strategic or tactical purpose.
Escalation would seem to be chemical warfare or nuclear attack. How else can Russia escalate matters from this point?
Further, Ukraine is retaliating. They did not initiate. If Ukraine has managed to find a way to take the fight to Russian soil, Russia has only itself to blame for creating the war in the first place.
They could be turning Kyiv into Grozny. I don't know if they'd be as successful, but they could be doing more damage.
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I don't understand how Russia is able to destroy Mariupol.
What are they using ?
Why Ukraine can't attack and destroy whatever it is Russia is using?
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Missiles,Naval, air, and land bombardement.
They were flying 200 or so sorties every 24 hours
Meanwhile we have subs that can hit many targets in Ukraine from.the north sea or med,so.i'd assume russia does as well(but wouldnt as certainly can much more easily hit Mariupol from thier border, and fly missions easily from.their air bases.
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Missiles,Naval, air, and land bombardement.
They were flying 200 or so sorties every 24 hours
Meanwhile we have subs that can hit many targets in Ukraine from.the north sea or med,so.i'd assume russia does as well(but wouldnt as certainly can much more easily hit Mariupol from thier border, and fly missions easily from.their air bases.
But I thought Ukraine has some S-300s to take down high flying planes and a lot of Stingers for low flying ones.
And what about the weapons that shoot down missiles in flight ?
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But I thought Ukraine has some S-300s to take down high flying planes and a lot of Stingers for low flying ones.
And what about the weapons that shoot down missiles in flight ?
They don't have Stingers in Mariupol or they already had shot it.
S300 is probably now not covering Mariupol or too risky to approach the SAM systems in a region where the RF is at the offensive.
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This is a site of soldiers either killed or captured in Ukraine.
Not for the squeamish or weak of heart.
http://russoldat.info/
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http://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-strikes-fuel-depot-russias-belgorod-regional-official-says-2022-04-01/ (http://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-strikes-fuel-depot-russias-belgorod-regional-official-says-2022-04-01/)
President Zelensky, when asked about the strike last night, said that he doesn't comment on military and strategic matters,and then proceeded to explain why the strike happened,saying that Russia was using the site for missile strikes on Ukraine.
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This is a site of soldiers either killed or captured in Ukraine.
Not for the squeamish or weak of heart.
http://russoldat.info/ (http://russoldat.info/)
Essential viewing for all the families of the Russian terrorists/scum in Ukraine.
Nice gesture from Ukraine to provide this service for them.
Maybe some of them will reciprocate by getting in touch with the site and giving names for some of the unidentified Russian terrorist/scum bodies.
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Ukrainian woman whose village was stormed by Russian troops says they wore her clothes, stole money, and drunkenly shot off her husband's leghttp://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-woman-whose-village-stormed-101536095.html
My concern grows for what may have become of Beefarmer's care packages in all of this.
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Good news ;D
The British Star Streak SAM system claimed it's first victim in Ukraine.
It shot down a Russian Helicopter outside Luhansk.
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Essential viewing for all the families of the Russian terrorists/scum in Ukraine.
Looked at some of the passports - just kids, cannon fodder with a gun at their back. Sad regardless of passport.
Personally, I hold Putin accountable and hope the RU people do the same.
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Don't be too sad...now those "kids" can't commit anymore atrocities.
Reports are starting to come through of Russian/scum "kids" atrocities against civilians in Bucha,including many executions.
Apparently the liberating Ukrainian troops are horrified at what they're discovering.
Bodies lying everywhere on the streets,some with tied arms.
I've seen film of it,but i'm not posting it here..it's appalling in it's sheer horror.
It wasn't Putin who executed these people..it was Russian "kids".
It wasn't Putin who gang-raped a 15 year old girl in Irpin while her mother lay dying in the same room..it was Russian "kids".
It wasn't Putin who shelled Mariupol, Kharkiv and Chernihiv residential areas.killing hundred/thousands of civilians...it was Russian "kids".
Putin is scum yes...but so is his military,and they've always been the same..from Germany to Georgia to Syria and now Ukraine.
They're a cruel and barbaric people and war always brings out their real evil nature.
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This 4 second clip shows UK Starstreak missile 'shooting down Russian helicopter in its first use in Ukraine'
The Starstreak system is a laser-guided missile that travels at more than three times the speed of sound to take down low-flying enemy jets and attack helicopters.
Starstreak, a high-velocity projectile that destroys targets with three kinetic darts, was filmed cutting the aircraft in two over the Luhansk region in the east of the country.
The clip shows a Russian Mi-28N helicopter being cut in two and shot out of the sky in the Luhansk region as it is struck by the portable missile.
http://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2022/04/01/1900382562027521570/636x382_MP4_1900382562027521570.mp4
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A nice write-up on StarStreak
http://eurasiantimes.com/from-britain-with-love-uks-new-game-changing-missiles-to-ukraine-has-potential-to-turn-tables-on-belligerent-russia/
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A nice write-up on StarStreak
http://eurasiantimes.com/from-britain-with-love-uks-new-game-changing-missiles-to-ukraine-has-potential-to-turn-tables-on-belligerent-russia/ (http://eurasiantimes.com/from-britain-with-love-uks-new-game-changing-missiles-to-ukraine-has-potential-to-turn-tables-on-belligerent-russia/)
I've seen the news outlets speaking to some Ukrainian troops about the anti-Tank missiles they're using and they've all said the NLAW the UK gave them are the best, and they've all made a point of thanking Britain for them. :)
Just need something to hit those Russian ships parked in the Black Sea firing Ballistic Missiles,which would also hit the Russian MIG 31's firing missiles into Ukraine from Russia,
Let's see if the USA and France stops making promises and actually delivers on something.
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Don't be too sad...now those "kids" can't commit anymore atrocities.
Reports are starting to come through of Russian/scum "kids" atrocities against civilians in Bucha,including many executions.
Apparently the liberating Ukrainian troops are horrified at what they're discovering.
Bodies lying everywhere on the streets,some with tied arms.
I've seen film of it,but i'm not posting it here..it's appalling in it's sheer horror.
It wasn't Putin who executed these people..it was Russian "kids".
It wasn't Putin who gang-raped a 15 year old girl in Irpin while her mother lay dying in the same room..it was Russian "kids".
It wasn't Putin who shelled Mariupol, Kharkiv and Chernihiv residential areas.killing hundred/thousands of civilians...it was Russian "kids".
Putin is scum yes...but so is his military,and they've always been the same..from Germany to Georgia to Syria and now Ukraine.
They're a cruel and barbaric people and war always brings out their real evil nature.
I absolutely agree CB, the atrocities we have seen the Russian Army commit from Mariupol to around the surrounding areas around Kyiv and onwards are appauling. I can't imagine the misery these Russian troops inflicted on innocent Ukrainian civilians, many individuals and families in Ukraine will have been wrecked and lead a wretched life because of what Putin and the Russian Army have done. I feel glad at least that the UK among other western nations have helped Ukraine to fend of these brutal bullies by cooking many of them in their Tanks with our NLAWS, for that is just what they deserve.
I can't see how Ukraine could possibly come to a negotiated peace now after seeing what Russian troops have done to unarmed civilians many trying to flee from the fighting. Ukraine is gaining the upper hand in all of this now and must press home until a Russian defeat.
To my mind we should also be supplying Georgia with some of our weaponry to start up an insurgency of Georgians in the occupied territories of Georgia now that Russia is diverting troops there to fight in Ukraine. That and back insurgency operations throughout Russia, in Chechnya, the Stans, the Far East of Russia, every Russian region. Make the whole lot disintegrate into separate countries so Russia can never try and bully anyone again.
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I've seen the news outlets speaking to some Ukrainian troops about the anti-Tank missiles they're using and they've all said the NLAW the UK gave them are the best, and they've all made a point of thanking Britain for them. :)
Just need something to hit those Russian ships parked in the Black Sea firing Ballistic Missiles, which would also hit the Russian MIG 31's firing missiles into Ukraine from Russia
Let's see if the USA and France stops making promises and actually delivers on something.
Yes, let's hope. And many thanks from Ukraine lover to UK folks!! :-)
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Russia's war effort stalls as the Red Army can't get replacement weapons or spares for their crippled convoys... because they're all made in Ukraine.
Russia's war effort is grinding to a halt because much of the military hardware they need is made in Ukraine, it emerged as defence sources said the Kremlin could not replenish its stocks.
Ukraine had previously supplied Russia with cruise missiles, helicopter engine parts and fighter jet components. It also produced the fire control systems used by Russian tanks.
Now, when these systems fail, they cannot be replaced. Russia is unable to source these items or alternatives from other countries due to international sanctions.
Since the conflict began in late February, Russia has lost an estimated 143 planes, 131 helicopters, 625 tanks and 316 artillery pieces.
Russia has also fired at least 1,100 missiles, raising questions about how long it can maintain such an expenditure rate.
Given Russia's reliance on Ukraine for military components, UK defence sources say Russia's war effort is in serious trouble.
Last night a source said: 'Serious amounts of components for Russian weapons systems were made there [Ukraine]. That won't be happening any more.
'Russia cannot manufacture this equipment itself or import it, so it won't be getting any of these materials any time soon. The hardware expended in Ukraine came from historic stockpiles, developed when there was greater cooperation between Russia and Ukraine.
'The integration of their industrial complexes meant a severing of relations would jeopardise Russia's ability to sustain military operations. Now they're running out.'
In the Soviet Union era, Ukraine produced 30 per cent of the Union's weaponry and military equipment.
Weapons sales continued after the Cold War. In 2012 Ukraine was the world's fourth largest arms exporter and the Commonwealth of Independent States – as the Soviet Union became – was among its biggest customers.
But after Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 and began the conflict in the Donbas region – aided with Ukrainian equipment – Kyiv drastically reduced supplies to its neighbour.
Ukraine's revenues from arms exports plummeted from £1billion in 2012 to £100million in 2020.According to UK sources, Russia faces drastic shortages of 'helicopter, ship, fighter jet and cruise missile parts'.
Its cruise missiles were manufactured in Ukraine's second biggest city Kharkiv, which has been bombarded by Russian artillery and aircraft.
The state-run instrument-making plant at Izyum also made essential components for Russia's T-72 range of tanks.
The war is also expected to curtail Russia's nuclear programme as half of the components for its ground-based intercontinental ballistic missiles were sourced in Ukraine.
UK intelligence reports have also indicated Russia's generals have pushed back against Kremlin attempts to deploy thousands more troops to Ukraine, rejecting them as 'not fit for purpose'.
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Stories of war crimes now being documented.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-crimes-russia-controlled-areas
But a researcher claims this was always planned.
http://mobile.twitter.com/Jack_Watling/status/1510391427427147778
Today, Odesa infrastructure was hit by missiles. No deaths were reported.
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Ukraine now has total control from Kyiv to the Belarus border.
Multiple Russian convoys were totally destoyed over the last 48 hours as the Russians fled in disarray to Belarus,with huge amounts of military equipment abandoned.
Russian forces made an attack right along the Donbas region front and made no ground.
Outside Donetsk a three hour battle resulted in a Russian Tactical Battalion Group being trashed with at least 23 of their Military vehicles being destroyed.
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courtesey of "Daily Mail"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10680875/Two-Russian-troops-dead-28-hospital-POISONED-laced-Ukrainian-buns.html
note to Ukrainians:
wine with cork tops are the easiest
take a large needle and syringe, withdraw some of the wine
inject toxin
bottle appears completely untouched
this is good to put in your basement if you think it's gonna be looted, put a piece of paper with sign on it saying it's "POISON- DON'T DRINK" warn family/friends
before looters come, remove and destroy the sign....
my Pinot Noir is VERY NOIR
hmmmm hmmmm
I got "good stuff" from the Russian KAMERA documents
this is the best wine to be served with your looters "last supper"
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Ukraine now has total control from Kyiv to the Belarus border.
Multiple Russian convoys were totally destoyed over the last 48 hours as the Russians fled in disarray to Belarus,with huge amounts of military equipment abandoned.
Russian forces made an attack right along the Donbas region front and made no ground.
Outside Donetsk a three hour battle resulted in a Russian Tactical Battalion Group being trashed with at least 23 of their Military vehicles being destroyed.
Chelseaboy, please post your reference sources to these stories.
Thanks
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courtesey of "Daily Mail"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10680875/Two-Russian-troops-dead-28-hospital-POISONED-laced-Ukrainian-buns.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10680875/Two-Russian-troops-dead-28-hospital-POISONED-laced-Ukrainian-buns.html)
note to Ukrainians:
wine with cork tops are the easiest
take a large needle and syringe, withdraw some of the wine
inject toxin
bottle appears completely untouched
this is good to put in your basement if you think it's gonna be looted, put a piece of paper with sign on it saying it's "POISON- DON'T DRINK" warn family/friends
before looters come, remove and destroy the sign....
my Pinot Noir is VERY NOIR
hmmmm hmmmm
I got "good stuff" from the Russian KAMERA documents
this is the best wine to be served with your looters "last supper"
Good tip against looters... But it seems to be that they are not also Russians, there are locals too...
It is said that Irpin and Butcha are infested with booby traps dropped by the Russian forces before they left.
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Russians used German POWs after great Patriotic War to clear mines...
Ukrainians have Russian POWs
who I am sure would gladly volunteer for this job
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Chelseaboy, please post your reference sources to these stories.
Thanks
My source is a good friend with very good contacts ...everything is coming from satellite images which he has access to.
I'd better not say more than that.
There could be something HUGE happening in the next week or two..depending on how everything pans out in Ukraine over that period...this is first-hand from another source actively involved whom i know well.
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http://liveuamap.com/
map sez yes, of course the usual caveat that "the map is not the territory"
and also YES, something BIG is gonna happen in the near future!!!
it HAS to be done before "Victory Day"
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For the West, the civilians murdered in North East of Kiev are the perfect pretext to accelerate their military help and especially to deliver heavy weapons like planes, SAM, Harpoons, tanks, and so on.
I hope that they will take this opportunity.
In the logic it works like this: RF, you have your red lines (no NATO soldiers, no NATO fly zone, and so on), but we have ours, genocide (if proven) is a red line.
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For the West, the civilians murdered in North East of Kiev are the perfect pretext to accelerate their military helpand especially to deliver heavy weapons like planes, SAM, Harpoon, tanks, and so on.
I hope that they will take this opportunity.
In the logic it works like this: RF, you have your red lines (no NATO soldiers, no NATO fly zone, and so on), but we have ours, genocide (if proven) is a red line.
I agree 100%.
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Sumy has now been re-taken by Ukrainian troops.
A state of the art Russia's most advanced Aircraft SU-35 fighter jet was shot down over Izyum and the pilot captured.
Ukraine's Deputy Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko commented "$50 million of damage for the ogres ".
Putin might have to sell his Palace and live in a tent to raise funds to replace all the military equipment he's managing to lose at this rate.
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Volodymyr Zelenskyy visited Bucha today. I wont share the images coming out of there, His face says it all.
(http://i.imgur.com/3NEKqs5.jpg)
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This is a synopsis of an article in a Russian paper today. There is little intent to hide the true nature of this invasion. It’s goal is deUkrainization.
http://mobile.twitter.com/francska1/status/1510898134481788930 (http://mobile.twitter.com/francska1/status/1510898134481788930)
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This is a refutation of Russian claims Bucha is faked.
http://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/04/04/russias-bucha-facts-versus-the-evidence/?s=09
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Unspeakable.
http://mobile.twitter.com/Mariana_Betsa/status/1510966912724963328?t=ocdsDAKYEZ5jd4xm3rhxRw&s=19
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"n the logic it works like this: RF, you have your red lines (no NATO soldiers, no NATO fly zone, and so on), but we have ours, genocide (if proven) is a red line."
computer says no....
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"n the logic it works like this: RF, you have your red lines (no NATO soldiers, no NATO fly zone, and so on), but we have ours, genocide (if proven) is a red line."
computer says no....
:ROFL:
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This is from Wali, a French Canadian, who is the best sniper in the Canadian army. He volunteered to go to Ukraine.
I can now say it. We were in Irpin. We were in Bucha. We've heard a lot from these cities recently. The Russians have committed many crimes against humanity there. We had known that for weeks, because the civilians were telling us about it.
I will tell you two stories. One sad and the other happy. That pretty much sums up why I do what I do.
The crimes were not carried out on the front line. Like Nazis, the Russians were killing civilians behind the front. We could see the areas occupied by the Russians. They were ghost towns: dark, gloomy, where the only light comes from fires. The Russians, often drunk, fired into houses where they heard children crying. We have many testimonies to this effect. Curiously, the Russians killed many teachers, because teachers represent culture, history, knowledge. And to destroy a people, you have to kill its memory.
And now for the happy story, because this is how the release of Irpin and Bucha ended a week ago now...
We had just been reinforced by Ukrainian Army units. We were going back to rest. We were several soldiers in a car and we were moving through debris of all kinds, avoiding from time to time the electric wires lying in the middle of the street. My gun was sticking out the window like a gangster. I saw a lady of about 50 years old. She was in the middle of a parking lot, covered in tree branches, broken glass and other debris. We saw burnt out cars. The lady was in the middle of this sort of sample of the apocalypse. Our eyes met. I smiled at her tilting my head. She smiled back, grateful. A sad smile, but a smile, We had just liberated her city. We had just liberated her city.
http://m.facebook.com/TorcheEtEpee (http://m.facebook.com/TorcheEtEpee)
Above post in French
http://tinyurl.com/2p8k89up (http://tinyurl.com/2p8k89up)
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This is a refutation of Russian claims Bucha is faked.
http://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/04/04/russias-bucha-facts-versus-the-evidence/?s=09
Also,
"Fact-checking Russian claims about Bucha killings", BBC:
http://www.bbc.com/news/60981238 (http://www.bbc.com/news/60981238)
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Also, satellite images of the bodies lying in the streets when the Russians controlled the town.
http://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/world/europe/bucha-ukraine-bodies.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/world/europe/bucha-ukraine-bodies.html)
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Ukraine has published the names of the Russian soldiers in the unit that was in Bucha.
http://gur.gov.ua/content/voennye-prestupnyky-neposredstvenno-uchastvuiushchye-v-sovershenyy-voennykh-prestuplenyi-protyv-naroda-ukrayny-v-h-bucha-voennosluzhashchye-64-otdelnoi-motostrelkovoi-bryhady-35-oa-vvo.html (http://gur.gov.ua/content/voennye-prestupnyky-neposredstvenno-uchastvuiushchye-v-sovershenyy-voennykh-prestuplenyi-protyv-naroda-ukrayny-v-h-bucha-voennosluzhashchye-64-otdelnoi-motostrelkovoi-bryhady-35-oa-vvo.html)
This is by Maxim Levada, a Kyiv born archaeologist, and nephew of Yuri Levada, founder of the Moscow based Levada Centre. (translated from Polish)
The thirty-second day of war
Chernihiv
It is an hour and a half drive from Kyiv to Chernihiv. You can leave in the morning, spend the whole day in Chernihiv and return home in the evening. It has always been like this. Before I first came to Chernihiv as a student, in 1978. At that time I belonged to the archaeological school club, and in the summer we went to the excavations in Chernihiv region. We arrived in Chernihiv by bus, and there we had to wait several hours for another bus to take us to our destination.
A few boys from the circle, including myself, excused ourselves and went into town. One of us had a grandmother in Chernihiv. He didn't know her address, but he remembered that she lived next to a square with the strange name of Five Corners Square. It turned out that such a square really existed, several streets branched off it. A cosy two-storey house in an old garden, a quiet street. Immediately, we had the impression that we were not in the city, but somewhere in the countryside. For me, who grew up in the centre of noisy Kyiv, this was a joyful addition to the journey that was only just beginning. Grandma lived alone. Our bustling group fell on her like snow on her head. Of course, we immediately said we were very hungry; at a young age the appetite is always good. I still remember our excellent lunch in that old house; we almost missed the bus and were reprimanded by the management.
Later, on our days off, we would go on excursions to Chernihiv. The management arranged with friends in the archaeological reserve and in the museum, and these excursions were real lessons about the history of the old city.
Chernihiv was very impressive. In Kyiv, all the monuments were scattered between newer buildings. The centre of Chernihiv was completely different, here you could literally be transported into some medieval story. We were guided not by ordinary guides, but by "real scientists", who told us children in detail about their research. Years later, when I was in Chernihiv, I would recognize the places where we walked. I stopped suddenly in the streets, when these memories came so unexpectedly and strongly that I could even smell the smells of my childhood.
From Kyiv to Chernihiv is an hour and a half drive. All the houses in the area where a childhood friend's grandmother lived have been destroyed by shelling. The city has been without heating, light, medicine and food supplies for a fortnight. Most importantly, there is no drinking water in the city. It is close to Kyiv, and nothing can be handed over, the city is cut off. Several times familiar volunteers tried to get through to bring food and aggregates, each time without success. They are constantly being shot at; there are, of course, wounded.
The volunteers, now dealing with supplies, are the ones who are risking the most. They are not soldiers, they are not armed, they cannot defend themselves. They are risking constantly, all over the country - in Ochtyrka, Irpin, Boyarka, Mariupol and Chernihiv. They bring aid, they search for and transport people. My friends went to Irpin for three days looking for an old woman with dementia. They did not know exactly where she was. They drove under constant fire, but did not find her.
Everything took an hour and a half. There is no water, no heating, no food. We have everything, we can bring everything, but the city is blocked.
My friend, the director of the museum in Chernihiv, lives in the museum cellar. He could have left, but he stayed. Every day he makes it known that he is alive, and every day he does something for his city. Just like all those who stayed. Today he wrote: "No water? The rain is our water. 50 litres overnight!".
Such is old Chernihiv. Glory to the heroes!
Thirty-fifth day of war
My parents experienced the war as children. They were both evacuated. I only learned about the war from stories, books and films. My parents often said how good it was that there was no war. I thought I would be the first generation to live in peace. It didn't work out. Now I too have my war, and only those born after it will be able to try to become a 'generation without war'.
I spent my childhood in the Soviet Union. One of the main slogans then was to fight for peace, we were constantly told about it at school. I remember our surprise when, on 9 May, our form teacher, a maths teacher, came with her orders. How could this be? It seemed to us children that war was something very far away. Suddenly we found out that our Eugenia Ivanovna was at the front. It turned out that she went to war as a volunteer. Her husband, Joseph Lvovich, also a mathematician, was also at the front. I don't know if they met during the war or if they went to the war together, they didn't tell us, but when they pinned their medals on the holiday, we involuntarily tried to be quiet and obedient in their presence. We felt that Victory Day was their personal holiday, which we did not understand as they did.
These people taught us to value peace. My grandfather used to drive me, a child, to Glory Park on Victory Day. He would buy a bouquet of carnations and we would walk down the avenue to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. There he would lay flowers and stand, silent. I was very small, it seemed to me that this was a holiday when you should be happy, have some entertainment, eat ice cream. I would pull him by the hand and bore him, and he would stand, silently, for some time and lead me home. In the evening, my grandfather's friends would come to our house. They would sit at the table, eat dinner and begin their endless conversations. I was not allowed at the table that day, my grandmother gave me to eat in the kitchen. Today I understand that they did not want the child to hear about the war.From the university, I remember a display case next to the dean's office, showing lecturers who participated in the war. I liked looking at it, there were old, just post-war photos. They made a strange impression; it turned out that our old professor was a brave, handsome guardsman, and the old female professor had a lot of war decorations - after all, they weren't given to those who were at the back.
I think that for those in the USSR who survived the war, 'fighting for peace throughout the world' was not empty words. They had war experiences and understood what peace meant.
My friend, an associate professor at the university, joined the territorial defence immediately after the attack on us and has been serving in it ever since. Nobody called him, he went alone. Another good friend, the dean of the history faculty, also volunteered for the army. He is a doctor of history and a professor. By all rights he could have received a discharge from the army, but he went. I think I know why they did - it's hard to be a teacher if your pupils or students are at the front. Also voluntary.
I recently read that in Russia many university employees, rectors, deans, heads of departments, support the war. I saw a whole roster of them. But none of those who have signed there, as I understand it, are going to the front, and I am sure they will not. I don't think any of them can imagine what the bodies of boys, peers of their students and PhD students, rotting in the fields, torn apart by bullets and mines, look like.
There was another tradition in the Soviet Union which might be called social conformity. This was the compulsory and public expression of support for party and government policies. Without it, no one could hold on to a leadership position. Every Soviet rector or dean was obliged to act in accordance with Communist Party policy, and on top of that to keep a close eye on suspicious or iniquitous elements. If he fulfilled these tasks, nothing threatened him under any circumstances. Even if war broke out, he would be placed far away, at the safe rear. Authority always needs obedient, conscientious and sold-out lackeys and relies on them, especially those among the lecturers. They, after all, bring up the likes of themselves.
Burnt libraries and raped teenagers
Last night in Chernihiv the Korolenko regional library was bombed. The roof was smashed, windows shattered, walls cracked. Until the 1917 revolution there was the Noble Bank, in a beautiful palace in modernist style. It was built in 1910-13 to a design by the St Petersburg architect Alexander von Hohen, the same who designed the Suvorov Museum in St Petersburg, the villa of Matilda Krzesinskaya and many others.
On 11 March, the regional youth library building in Chernigov was destroyed by shelling. This was also a historic palace, once owned by Vasyl Tarnovsky, a patron of culture and collector. Since 1897, when Tarnowski donated his unique collection to the Chernihiv region, it has housed the Museum of Ukrainian Antiquities.
In Ivankov near Kyiv, the "liberators" burnt down the building of the museum of Maria Prymachenko, the most famous Ukrainian representative of folk primitivism. In 2009, the centenary of her birth was celebrated, and UNESCO declared the year the Year of Prymachenko.
The museum in Ochtyrka, the art museum in Kharkiv, the theatre in Mariupol, the Popov Mansion museum, dozens of temples, monuments to Holocaust victims in Babi Yar and Drobitsky Yar...
These were not military facilities. Cannons and rockets were not hidden there, anywhere. You can see it clearly in the photographs, broken display cases and cabinets, scattered books.Is what is happening a coincidence?
Even before the war began, the commanders of the "liberator" army confiscated all telephones from the soldiers. But one wants so much to call home! That is why they take the telephones of the inhabitants of the occupied areas and use them en masse. Little do people realise that every phone call to Russia is automatically recorded and saved by the Ukrainian mobile operator. There are already plenty of these records, and very many of them are available on the Internet. So the picture that emerges is this:
Firstly, marauding on a massive scale is taking place. Literally everything is being looted. The liberator cheerfully informs his wife that she now has a fur coat, and he himself the wheels for the car, the television, the notebook, the stereo and so on. And then there are the pictures recorded by cameras, present even in small shops. They carry crates of alcohol, sweets, sausages. Often they bite off a piece of sausage on the way and drink it from the tap.
Secondly, mass rapes take place. They also talk about this on the phone. Three tankmen captured a sixteen-year-old girl and raped her one by one for several days. There are many such stories. And not only do they tell, but they brag! After the recapture of Irpin, Ukrainian soldiers began to deport those who did not manage to save themselves. And among them are very many sixteen- and seventeen-year-old girls. They need psychologists, they are afraid of people, even their own parents.
In the Kyiv region, one of the 'liberators' shot the father and repeatedly raped the mother in front of the eyes of the minor son. However, our special forces found this monster. He no longer rapes anyone. There was a similar case in Mariupol. The woman died and the child is speechless and reacts to almost nothing.
That is the picture - destroyed libraries and dead raped women. It is therefore clear that peace, unfortunately, cannot be expected. In view of what is happening, there can be no peace - these images will return sooner or later.
http://wyborcza.pl/magazyn/7,124059,28297963,spalili-muzeum-starozytnosci-ukrainy-muzeum-marii-primaczenko.html?disableRedirects=true (http://wyborcza.pl/magazyn/7,124059,28297963,spalili-muzeum-starozytnosci-ukrainy-muzeum-marii-primaczenko.html?disableRedirects=true)
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Story on looting, naming soldiers.
http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/4/7337132/ (http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/4/7337132/)
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Germany temporarily nationalizes Gazprom Germany.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-04/germany-to-temporarily-run-gazprom-unit-to-safeguard-gas-supply (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-04/germany-to-temporarily-run-gazprom-unit-to-safeguard-gas-supply)
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Hello all,
Checking in on the forums again.
Krim, yes, a bit odd. Not not entertaining, and not not correct at various times. Hopefully things are going well for you in Uzbekistan. :popcorn:
ML and others with friends and family in Ukraine, I hope they are safe and sound.
T will be returning this week. She's getting burned out over there and misses home. She hasn't made any plans, but I think she will go back in May to keep helping as best she can.
My life has turned a bit surreal. I have spent more time on various online news and information portals than ever. I have joined various support groups on Facebook, when in the past I maybe checked once a month and posted 3 or 4 times a year.
One comfort has been the subreddit r/FarmersStealingTanks. Some humor to relieve stress.
T met someone who evacuated with her sister from Mariupol, a woman named Oksana. T calls her Cyborg. I asked her why:
We lost contact with T's sister in early March. The last message from her was that she tried to evacuate but the road ahead was being shelled. She didn't return to the house because the day before a fragment from an explosion tore a roof above our older nephew's bedroom. While looking for a better shelter, they met Oksana and her son. The two of them were going to a shelter they heard about, so N (my SIL) and the boys joined them. The shelter had about 200 people, and as with N's house, was without electricity, heat or water.
This is where Cyborg came in. Oksana and 4 men went out everyday with various containers to collect water from a spring or stream under a destroyed bridge. The bridge was about a kilometer away. Every day they made their way around debris and various bodies lying about. A few days the shelling was too close so they went out and collected snow or rainwater. Oksana also scavenged various abandoned apartments and buildings to find food or useful supplies.
They day N left, Oksana went out on one of her supply scavenging trips. The deadline to leave was approaching and Oksana was not around. An adult couple asked to leave with N, and she agreed if Oksana didn't return in time. 15 minutes before the final convoy group needed to depart, Oksana showed up. N had to turn away the couple and let Oksana and her son join. The 5 of them drove slowly towards Zaporizhzhia, past several russian checkpoints. Our youngest nephew didn't realize these were soldiers. He said they looked like street gangs in camo outfits. Some waved them on without issue, some stopped and threatened a group in this car or that. But all eventually got to Zap without further harm. This was March 15.
The group rested a day in Zap and then 2 days near Dnipro. They stopped again somewhere near Vinnytsia. On March 20 they finally made it to a small town near the Polish border where T was waiting. She had housing arranged for them and they spent two nights there. That's when T met Oksana and heard their stories. Oksana credits N for saving her life, and N credits Oksana for saving all their lives. T calls Oksana Cyborg after she heard their stories.
Oksana and her son are now in Spain, reunited with her boyfriend there. She has invited all of us to stay with them whenever we want.
N and the nephews are in small town in the Carpathians. They stayed at a lodge there during the winter holidays several years ago. The owner said the place is vacant and they can stay there for free. They do not want to leave Ukraine because our oldest nephew is 19 and cannot leave. They will stick together.
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its incredible what Russian troops are doing.
Anyone who tries to defend these actions for Russian
are as bad as the people who do this.
THis war is being played out on social media, satellites
for the world to watch, I am sure Putin had no idea
how many people would see this and how fast.
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My mil's building was hit today.
She and SIL.are ok.
Some other residents ok, some injured.
Complete residential area, no military equipment or troops anywhere near.
This was in Nikolaev
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Glad they are ok, Jumper.
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Jumper, when Pootin transfers his troops, they're going to be on the front line
they should GTF out ASAP, do they have some place to go?
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Rational analysis.
http://youtu.be/SN7o-ThhFfY
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Sorry, I won’t give any time to someone convicted of unlawful contact with a minor. It says something about character. It’s probably why he’s reduced to shilling for Russia.
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Sorry, I won’t give any time to someone convicted of unlawful contact with a minor. It says something about character. It’s probably why he’s reduced to shilling for Russia.
Ignorance is bliss.
The facts on the ground are facts. The markets have stated Russia is on the path to "winning" this conflict and Modi has also stated this in his actions (as have the Saudis). This is clinical analysis from a domain expert.
I'm sure this video is fake too: http://youtu.be/rLZ2ZzoD-W0
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Rational analysis.
http://youtu.be/SN7o-ThhFfY
He has some good points.
He also starts off with taking putins position that donbas is independent republics with no regard for Ukrainians living there whether pro.russian or pro Ukrainian .
Thats seems an odd foot to start off on.
As far as others analysis ,its jist that.
Most of them were saying russia wouldnt invade.
They are about as accurate as weathermen
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Jumper, when Pootin transfers his troops, they're going to be on the front line
they should GTF out ASAP, do they have some place to go?
Ive told them.that since day one.
They dont have a place to go out of Ukraine
nor do they want to, nor are they willing to.leave unless its all.ruble.
They are also terrified to.leave as reports of what happens on.the outskirts of the city travel.fast .
They could go to the relatives in a village in central Ukraine north west of kirov rog if they could get transportation,but I highly doubt they would even.if it was available.
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More bad news for Russia
http://tinyurl.com/2upuzbz9
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Ignorance is bliss.
The facts on the ground are facts. The markets have stated Russia is on the path to "winning" this conflict and Modi has also stated this in his actions (as have the Saudis). This is clinical analysis from a domain expert.
I'm sure this video is fake too: http://youtu.be/rLZ2ZzoD-W0 (http://youtu.be/rLZ2ZzoD-W0)
I watched the video.
Interesting comment at 2:35 where a "resident" of Mariupol says "If OUR Russian Tanks come up they will smash them " :rolleyes:
Whoops.
Seriously,can't you do better than this. ?
Clearly Russian stooges spreading false propaganda..just like you do.
Instead of watching tripe like this ,you'd be better off watching the main news networks...where you'd have seen a bloke in his forties in Bucha telling how two Chechens from the Russian Military raped a young woman and then dismembered her,and how he and other local blokes found those Chechens and beat them to death,showing the state of his knuckles.
Or how about the elderly lady in Bucha who said Russian troops knocked on her next door neighbours door ,a bloke in his fifties,and asked him for documentation.As he turned to go and get it he was shot in the back of the head.
By the way how's that prediction from you that the War would be over in days working out for you ?
We're now at 5 weeks and 5 days and counting.
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The Freedom of Russia Legion seems to be gaining numbers..it's now forming a Battalion.
For those who don't know these are surrendered or captured Russian's who now wish to fight for Ukraine.
They are currently in training to get up to Ukrainian standard of fighting and weapon use.
Interestingly they still keep their White armbands,but cover it with a Blue one.
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This is from a reddit user who does daily roundups of events in Ukraine.
http://tinyurl.com/4h7kyp45
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This is why rwd is mistaken. Russia may achieve military “victory”, if they throw everything at Ukraine. But they won’t be able to maintain it, as they have already alienated populations everywhere they have been on Ukrainian lands.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russian-soldiers-beat-torture-ukrainian-villagers/
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Where would the Ukrainian insurgents live ?
In the fields ?
Where would they store weapons ?
I suspect Putin wants to level all the cities..Mariupol is first then Kharkiv,then level them all one by one,
He wants all the Ukrainians either dead or as refugees...and he'll use the land for farming to feed his growing military in which he can put the farm-workers in Caravans on low incomes.
Meanwhile the west will stand by and wring their hands,expel Russian diplomats and issue sanctions that don't deter him...until Putin turns his attention to them.
If Putin isn't stopped in Ukraine,who have the biggest Army in Europe after Russia..then where ?
There's a reason why he's constantly testing the UK's Air Defences with his Bombers flying close to our Airspace..
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Chelseaboy,
The west preemptively releasing what would normally be classified information to the public is a splendid tactic that works well against the RU disinformation machine. Foretelling Putin's moves have consolidated western nations who are acting in lockstep. This nullified the power of his divide and conquer routine.
At this point, military escalation is what Putin desires. He is trying to provoke the West. Nothing will mobilize propagandized RU citizens more than an overt NATO intervention in what has been declared part of Russia. Supporting Ukraine to defend itself does not allow him the satisfaction of being 'right' about NATO wanting to harm Russia, whittling away the rationale he puts forth to justify this war he alone instigated.
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An analysis of the invasion and why it has not been successful to date.
http://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1511528319656755205.html
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It might be helpful to know more of the players involved
http://mouqawamahmusic.net/illegitimate-jewish-regimes-secret-plan-for-a-2nd-zionist-entity-in-ukraine/ (http://mouqawamahmusic.net/illegitimate-jewish-regimes-secret-plan-for-a-2nd-zionist-entity-in-ukraine/)
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It might be helpful to know more of the players involved
http://mouqawamahmusic.net/illegitimate-jewish-regimes-secret-plan-for-a-2nd-zionist-entity-in-ukraine/ (http://mouqawamahmusic.net/illegitimate-jewish-regimes-secret-plan-for-a-2nd-zionist-entity-in-ukraine/)
Unbelievable that people actually believe such layers of speculation and utter bollocks being peddled as pseudo scientific truth.
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DNA tests have debunked the “Jews are descendants of the Khazars” theory.
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so Jew haters claim that:
Jews control the media
Jews control big finance
Jews are involved in vaccines
and now...
Jews control Ukraine...
this makes me feel proud of my ancestry
if you hear of any more "success stories" about Jews please post them!
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Mariupol City Council: Russia uses mobile crematoriums to erase evidence of its war crimes.
According to the council, Russia’s special brigades collect and burn the bodies of murdered residents. Tens of thousands of civilians may have been killed in Mariupol, it added.
“The scale of the tragedy in Mariupol the world has not seen since the times of Nazi concentration camps,” mayor Vadym Boychenko said. Russians, he added, “turned our whole city into a death camp.”
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Gozpedy,
I warned Russians about this, but even the ones who pay me, don’t wanna listen, cuz then they’d have to “do something” and Russians are really, really bad at this game when it comes to the “doin”
shto te gavorite?
Well moy druzya, one of the biggest drug markets in the Moscva oblast was just seized by “unfriendly forces”
http://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/05/darknet-hydra-market-site-seized-and-shut-down-doj-says.html
no longer will there be russki dopers wandering around Gorky at night in the light of their cell phone screens, lookin for their drop location, like a nighttime easter egg hunt
I showed Russians how to have a decentralized system, where the SERVERS run on cell phones
buy NYET!!! they didn’t wanna change things….
Yalky Palky
so glad I’m outta there and retired from "the bizness"
if USA would allow "privateers" and let us keep the loot, I'd totally swich sides
and I know how to do REAL DAMAGE there
but no, they're against this idea...
so I'm neutral, like Israel...
American offensive cyber security operations are conducted by young amateurs
with very little knowledge of enemy territory and next level "tricks of the trade"
they're OK on low level penetration testing, etc, but they need a teacher for the top level
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/780th_Military_Intelligence_Brigade_(United_States)
on top of that, they're riddled with moles
Snowden and his girlfriend lived close by and were just two of many who live and work there
2nd biggest mole habitat is silicon valley
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I'm going to go back a minute to the "Jews want to take over Ukraine" meme.
In the first independent Ukrainian republic (Ukrainian People's Republic, 1917-1920), Yiddish was declared a state language, together with Ukrainian and Russian. It appeared on the country's currency. Jews were the largest ethnic minority in Ukraine, due to the "Pale of Settlement". Zionism and Hasidism both originated in Ukraine. Part of the reason why Jews now flock to Uman is because the rabbi who "founded" Hasidism is buried there. Jews were also over 1/3 of the population of Odesa until WWII.
Kolomoyski has funded a huge synagogue in Dnipropetrovsk, and there has been some conflict around the prominence of the Jewish community there. But, I don't really see much of an issue even if FP's article is true (i.e., Jews want to take over Crimea, but yes, I know the subtext of that article is "Dumb Ukrainians are fighting for the Jews").
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BO, projouste...
go look at the source...
this is the typical anti-semitism of the last century or so
NOTHING new here
just an off-shoot of the protocols
written by an islamic/russian supporter
being pushed by a trump voter
this is not worthy of debate
because NONE of it is factual
the only thing Jews want from Ukraine, is to freaking leave it, and most have
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Mariupol City Council: Russia uses mobile crematoriums to erase evidence of its war crimes.
According to the council, Russia’s special brigades collect and burn the bodies of murdered residents. Tens of thousands of civilians may have been killed in Mariupol, it added.
“The scale of the tragedy in Mariupol the world has not seen since the times of Nazi concentration camps,” mayor Vadym Boychenko said. Russians, he added, “turned our whole city into a death camp.”
So it could be true that displaced populations are now easy to move from Mariupol (in ashes), sorry for my dark humor, but unfortunately, it's possible that they have burnt, or they will burn all corpses in the future, since the Butcha case.
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Gozpedy,
I warned Russians about this, but even the ones who pay me, don’t wanna listen, cuz then they’d have to “do something” and Russians are really, really bad at this game when it comes to the “doin”
shto te gavorite?
Well moy druzya, one of the biggest drug markets in the Moscva oblast was just seized by “unfriendly forces”
http://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/05/darknet-hydra-market-site-seized-and-shut-down-doj-says.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/05/darknet-hydra-market-site-seized-and-shut-down-doj-says.html)
no longer will there be russki dopers wandering around Gorky at night in the light of their cell phone screens, lookin for their drop location, like a nighttime easter egg hunt
I showed Russians how to have a decentralized system, where the SERVERS run on cell phones
buy NYET!!! they didn’t wanna change things….
Yalky Palky
so glad I’m outta there and retired from "the bizness"
if USA would allow "privateers" and let us keep the loot, I'd totally swich sides
and I know how to do REAL DAMAGE there
but no, they're against this idea...
so I'm neutral, like Israel...
American offensive cyber security operations are conducted by young amateurs
with very little knowledge of enemy territory and next level "tricks of the trade"
they're OK on low level penetration testing, etc, but they need a teacher for the top level
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/780th_Military_Intelligence_Brigade_(United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/780th_Military_Intelligence_Brigade_(United_States))
on top of that, they're riddled with moles
Snowden and his girlfriend lived close by and were just two of many who live and work there
2nd biggest mole habitat is silicon valley
It's good that you have gone away from the blast.
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not a fan of Russian "metal music" or any metal music
if that's what you're referring to
BUT there is a lot of contemporary Russian music that I do appreciate
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This is why rwd is mistaken. Russia may achieve military “victory”, if they throw everything at Ukraine. But they won’t be able to maintain it, as they have already alienated populations everywhere they have been on Ukrainian lands.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russian-soldiers-beat-torture-ukrainian-villagers/
If Mariupol is anything to go by it looks like the old strategy of deportations of Ukrainians into the depths of Russia and later replacement with ethnic Russians is what they will do. Mariupol is mostly shelled out so no homes for many Ukrainians at the moment in any case. My guess is that Russia will 'Russify' all the land and cities it conquers. If Ukraine can be as successful at keeping Russia out of its cities in the East and South of Ukraine and in doing so Russia's second offensive fails then they might be in with a chance of winning this war. Again Ukraine would have to push Russian forces back and retake the Donbass & Crimea.
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Russian losses may be higher than Ukraine’s estimate (which I assumed was overstated).
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/4/5/2090250/-Ukraine-update-Russia-s-real-losses-in-Ukraine-may-be-greater-than-even-Ukraine-believes
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Hmm 🤔
http://m.jpost.com/international/article-703061/amp
I guess all that archaeological evidence of Jerusalem, even Old Testament stories, was faked. 🤷♀️
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I thought this was an interesting analysis.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/06/do-russians-tell-the-truth-when-they-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine-evidence-from-a-list-experiment/
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This is a very good article, although it misses a couple of points about Ukrainian malfeasance prior to 2014. I hope the token works.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/merkels-toxic-legacy-germany-nears-a-reckoning-over-ties-to-russia-7lgms9vz8
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Russian losses may be higher than Ukraine’s estimate (which I assumed was overstated).
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/4/5/2090250/-Ukraine-update-Russia-s-real-losses-in-Ukraine-may-be-greater-than-even-Ukraine-believes (http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/4/5/2090250/-Ukraine-update-Russia-s-real-losses-in-Ukraine-may-be-greater-than-even-Ukraine-believes)
I do agree with the analysis except:The number of planes is too high in a proportion of 4 to 1and the number of helicopters is also too high but in a lower proportion (around 2 to 1)
For the main battle tanks today it could be 900. But 676 is a pretty conservative number.
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Russian losses may be higher than Ukraine’s estimate (which I assumed was overstated).
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/4/5/2090250/-Ukraine-update-Russia-s-real-losses-in-Ukraine-may-be-greater-than-even-Ukraine-believes (http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/4/5/2090250/-Ukraine-update-Russia-s-real-losses-in-Ukraine-may-be-greater-than-even-Ukraine-believes)
One can only hope so.
The less of that murderous horde alive in Ukraine the better...and the more chance of the Ukrainian military winning.
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Australia,New Zealand,Japan,South Korea,Taiwan all at the NATO meeting today...as the threat of China in the Pacific looms.
As the days go by World War 3 looms ever-closer it seems.
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Another interesting article. I think the failure to hold Nuremberg like trials of the communist party, and barring communists from holding power, was a huge reason why we are where we are.
http://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/04/the-problem-isnt-just-putin-its-russia
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Ive told them.that since day one.
They dont have a place to go out of Ukraine
nor do they want to, nor are they willing to.leave unless its all.ruble.
They are also terrified to.leave as reports of what happens on.the outskirts of the city travel.fast .
They could go to the relatives in a village in central Ukraine north west of kirov rog if they could get transportation,but I highly doubt they would even.if it was available.
I've tried to get all my wife's family members to leave as well...some did evacuate to the west, some made it to Poland, Holland and Hungary, but some have flat out refused to go.
The ones that stayed are mostly in a village just south of Kyiv. So far just a couple missle strikes there, no Russia troops. My wife's sister in law did see a Russian recon drone over her house 3 weeks ago, the local Ukrainian defense force shot it down and pieces of it landed in her yard. We no longer talk to our Russian friends...they seem to live in their own reality now.
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Mariupol City Council: Russia uses mobile crematoriums to erase evidence of its war crimes.
According to the council, Russia’s special brigades collect and burn the bodies of murdered residents. Tens of thousands of civilians may have been killed in Mariupol, it added.
“The scale of the tragedy in Mariupol the world has not seen since the times of Nazi concentration camps,” mayor Vadym Boychenko said. Russians, he added, “turned our whole city into a death camp.”
http://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20220228-are-russians-using-mobile-crematoriums-in-ukraine (http://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20220228-are-russians-using-mobile-crematoriums-in-ukraine)
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A couple of notable recent developments:
Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill delivered a sermon with an ominous message essentially undermining Ukraine's rights to exist as a sovereign nation and people. Article here -> http://religiondispatches.org/the-russian-patriarch-just-gave-his-most-dangerous-speech-yet-and-almost-no-one-in-the-west-has-noticed/
Several media outlets have reported on Russian troop activities in the region of Chernobyl and particularly the fact they dug trenches in the most heavily irradiated regions of the exclusion zone.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/07/russian-soldiers-dug-trenches-in-chernobyl-zones-radioactive-soil-ukrainian-official-a77255http://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-suffer-acute-radiation-sickness-after-digging-chernobyl-trenches?ref=scroll
Attributed to Winston Churchill is the quote; "Never let a good crisis go to waste." One can only imagine how the Russians may 'spin' this to escalate the war, especially given their self-imposed deadline of May 9th to show some significant accomplishment to trumpet for their annual Victory Day commemoration.
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I thought this was an interesting analysis.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/04/06/do-russians-tell-the-truth-when-they-say-they-support-the-war-in-ukraine-evidence-from-a-list-experiment/
Very interesting. I am going to check with some people in social sciences area to see if this method of ascertaining truth has been used for other studies.
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This is a very good article, although it misses a couple of points about Ukrainian malfeasance prior to 2014. I hope the token works.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/merkels-toxic-legacy-germany-nears-a-reckoning-over-ties-to-russia-7lgms9vz8
The site wants permission to place cookies on my computer.
I never agree to such.
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I believe you can reject them.
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Russia has now been suspended from the UN Human Rights Council.
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Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov has today admitted "significant" losses of Russian troops in Ukraine in an interview with Sky News.
He's still claiming the horrific scenes in Bucha were "a well- staged insinuation,nothing else " though...despite Satellite images from the 18th March showing otherwise and a Russian Tank shown firing at and killing a Ukrainian civilian on a pushbike.
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The Russian missile that targeted Kramatorsk's train station, as mostly women and children tried to escape. It says "For the children".
The level of depravity if absolutely sickening.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPz3hoaXMAEcSL8?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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You may wonder why Russians are doing this…
the reason is, that the more non-Russians see of these types of images, then the less shock and distress they’ll feel for that which is coming, which is gonna be a WHOLE LOT worse…
at least, that’s what I heard…
so even this image was planned
I think you folks are gonna be surprised at what’s to come…
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The Russians have leveled a city, raped females aged 3 to 78, tortured and killed civilians indiscriminately, forcibly removed civilians to the far reaches of Russia, and put Ukrainian children they deported up for adoption. How much worse can it get?
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The Russian missile that targeted Kramatorsk's train station, as mostly women and children tried to escape. It says "For the children".
The level of depravity if absolutely sickening.
But of course there will always be the question of when were the letters painted and by whom.
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"How much worse can it get?"
When the Russians claim that the Ukrainians were responsible for the gas and not them...
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It sends a chill up my spine to think my wife and I stood on that same train platform 20 years ago on the way to RU. Photos, esp. of the dead kids are truly heartbreaking.
Many have left already, so a good portion of these folks were those who either had no means to travel earlier or had to make very tough choices, like leaving relatives behind that are too frail or ill to travel.
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The Russians have leveled a city, raped females aged 3 to 78, tortured and killed civilians indiscriminately, forcibly removed civilians to the far reaches of Russia, and put Ukrainian children they deported up for adoption. How much worse can it get?
Enrolling the males in the new Ukrainian occupied territories in the RF army (ongoing), deporting the population (to be confirmed), Finding the family of Ukrainian soldiers and executives living in Russia to make pressure on them, poisoning the water, mass raping, using chemicals, dropping dissimulated radioactive material after each withdrawn, targetting railways (ongoing maybe), using more thermobaric weapon (already used?), using cluster bombs on the civilian area with strategic bombing ...
In the scale horror, I am sure that they have more to come in their portfolio.
Ukraine has continuously bitten the offered hand of the Bear, the Bear is now angry, and his anger is higher and higher day after day. Maybe he will give you his pardon if you kiss his feet and you kneel in front of him. You have to suffer more.
I know quite well this behavior, I have been living in a monarchy for twelve years. A monarchy is a kingdom where the King has the right of death or life to EVERY person. Ukraine is considered to be part of the kingdom.
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The Russian missile that targeted Kramatorsk's train station, as mostly women and children tried to escape.
There is finger-pointing in both directions. The Russian military withdrew Tochka-U missiles replacing them with Iskanders. It's possible they are utilizing old stockpiles though these missiles are routinely used by the Ukrainian army.
A curious observation from the Bucha news earlier in the week was that victims were wearing white arm bands (identifying Russian 'friend' not 'foe'; Ukrainians wear blue) and had aid boxes from the Russian army.
The truth is the first victim in war. It is possible, if not probable these attacks were perpetrated by Ukrainian forces (which is consistent with civilian testimony in the south) but is impossible to determine at this point in time.
Food-related riots have already broken out in Peru and Sri Lanka. More countries will follow. I don't think people have realized that the global monetary system, that is money, is in a state of collapse. Gold and other tangible assets look a lot better than money in the bank.
Hey Pat - Le Pen is looking the goods! I think she has been riding the slipstream of Zemmour. Apparently Macron is scrambling to get French assets out of Mariupol... if that's true he is in trouble.
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Nyet….
This is just like the Russian Buk shooting down MH-17 over eastern Ukraine in 2014…
at first Russians said it was the CIA, yeah, that’s the ticket, the CIA
then it was a ukrainian fighter jet, yeah, a Ukrainian fighter jet….
Meanwhile we had intercepted communications of the Russians congratulating themselves on shooting down a "Ukrainian transport""...
Of course now, we even know the serial number of the Buk missile from the factory in Russia…
so second verse, just like the first!
Pro Russian media outlets and several Telegram channels reported earlier in the day of the attack that Russia had launched a successful missile attack on "Ukrainian forces" at the Kramatorsk station. When it became apparent that the attack killed a large number of civilians instead, the announcements were removed, and Russia started calling the attack a hoax. They also claimed that they no longer use Tochka-U missiles, but military experts, Amnesty International, and investigators from the Conflict Intelligence Team all documented their use by Russian forces in Ukraine prior to the strike on Kramatorsk.
BTW, if you purchased Palladium and nickel futures, you would’ve done FAR better than gold and silver
Pravda!
If ya got a Russian problem in your neighborhood,
who ya gonna call?
Rus Busters!
I ain't afraid of no Russians!
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Krimster2
Koneshno!
This guy agrees-
http://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd94ShYu/
But, I do hope your are wrong about the gas.
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The Russians are taking huge losses in Mariupol,as confirmed by Russian troops ..they're winning as they control more of the city...but the SW part of the city is still held by Ukrainian forces.
The Azov Battalion recently destroyed a LOT of Russian armour there.
Maybe the Russian Orc's should have spent less time shelling , carpet bombing and launching air-strikes on civilians there and concentrated on the Ukrainian forces.
Many Russian forces are close to being surrounded in the Kherson region,although it's not known if there are plans for Ukrainian forces to liberate the city itself yet.
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Krimster2
Koneshno!
This guy agrees-
http://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd94ShYu/ (http://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd94ShYu/)
But, I do hope your are wrong about the gas.
Just watched that...basically confirms the info i have and posted about Mariupol,although he says Ukraine controls the centre,and the Kherson region.
Regarding his comments about Russian Oil,Reuters reported a couple of days ago that China is honouring existing contracts for Russian Oil,but have refused to agree new contracts for Russian discounted Oil due to the fear of Western Sanctions.
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Nyet….
This is just like the Russian Buk shooting down MH-17 over eastern Ukraine in 2014…
at first Russians said it was the CIA, yeah, that’s the ticket, the CIA
then it was a ukrainian fighter jet, yeah, a Ukrainian fighter jet….
Meanwhile we had intercepted communications of the Russians congratulating themselves on shooting down a "Ukrainian transport""...
Of course now, we even know the serial number of the Buk missile from the factory in Russia…
so second verse, just like the first!
Pro Russian media outlets and several Telegram channels reported earlier in the day of the attack that Russia had launched a successful missile attack on "Ukrainian forces" at the Kramatorsk station. When it became apparent that the attack killed a large number of civilians instead, the announcements were removed, and Russia started calling the attack a hoax. They also claimed that they no longer use Tochka-U missiles, but military experts, Amnesty International, and investigators from the Conflict Intelligence Team all documented their use by Russian forces in Ukraine prior to the strike on Kramatorsk.
BTW, if you purchased Palladium and nickel futures, you would’ve done FAR better than gold and silver
Pravda!
If ya got a Russian problem in your neighborhood,
who ya gonna call?
Rus Busters!
I ain't afraid of no Russians!
Yes the type of missiles used to target the civilians at the Kramatorsk train station were being displayed at Russian Military parades as recently as last year.
These Russians are quite idiotic liars..they get caught out constantly.
Russian Orcs now desperately trying to catch Pigeons for food in Ukraine.
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There is finger-pointing in both directions. The Russian military withdrew Tochka-U missiles replacing them with Iskanders. It's possible they are utilizing old stockpiles though these missiles are routinely used by the Ukrainian army.
A curious observation from the Bucha news earlier in the week was that victims were wearing white arm bands (identifying Russian 'friend' not 'foe'; Ukrainians wear blue) and had aid boxes from the Russian army.
The truth is the first victim in war. It is possible, if not probable these attacks were perpetrated by Ukrainian forces (which is consistent with civilian testimony in the south) but is impossible to determine at this point in time.
Food-related riots have already broken out in Peru and Sri Lanka. More countries will follow. I don't think people have realized that the global monetary system, that is money, is in a state of collapse. Gold and other tangible assets look a lot better than money in the bank.
Hey Pat - Le Pen is looking the goods! I think she has been riding the slipstream of Zemmour. Apparently Macron is scrambling to get French assets out of Mariupol... if that's true he is in trouble.
Yes she seems to definitively win enough votes for the second round.
So it will end like the last election for the French president.
I just hope that she will be better prepared and that she has changed her advisors because last time her strategy was a disaster.
But you know a lot can change between the two rounds.
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Yes she seems to definitively win enough votes for the second round.
So it will end like the last election for the French president.
I just hope that she will be better prepared and that she has changed her advisors because last time her strategy was a disaster.
But you know a lot can change between the two rounds.
Pat, isn't Le Pen a Putin supporter ?
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Pat, isn't Le Pen a Putin supporter ?
Yep,
It is said the Russian Federation is supporting far-right political parties in Europe
One thing is sure I know personally someone close to her family, and he has swallowed entirely the RT narrative (2015)
So you can be sure that the party of Marine Le Pen is pro-Russian.
This is a total oxymoron as the right-far parties are known to potentially be the closest people to the Nazis in theory (WTF, if the real nazis are in Ukraine, why are you fighting with the DNR LPR???)In the end, they know shit about Eastern Europe, the culture, the history, and so on.
I also watch a lot of US advisors, former militaries, and worst, high profiles from think thank talking about the war and often the content is poor quality.
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I picked this picture off of "Telegram" a Russian chat app
it's of another Tochka that was shot down yesterday by Ukrainians near Chernigov
it shows where to look for the manufacturer's serial number
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Well Boris Johnson rocked up in Kyiv today...bringing a much-needed smile to President Zelensky's face.
The UK is going to supply,among other things,much-needed new Harpoon Anti-Ship missile systems and 120 Mastiff heavily armoured patrol vehicles,which weigh 23 tonnes and carry eight troops and two crew.
Boris is becoming quite Churchillian in this war :)
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This Russian terrorist invasion of Ukraine saved Boris Johnson's job.
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http://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1512867082932793347
I recommend watching this, must be infuriating to the Orc lord Putin..
At a handshake distance.
@BorisJohnson
and
@ZelenskyyUa
walked through the center of Kyiv and talked to ordinary Kyivans. This is what democracy looks like. This is what courage looks like. This is what true friendship between peoples and between nations looks like.
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http://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1512867082932793347
I recommend watching this, must be infuriating to the Orc lord Putin..
Thanks for posting. Quite heart warming.
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The truth is the first victim in war. It is possible, if not probable these attacks were perpetrated by Ukrainian forces (which is consistent with civilian testimony in the south) but is impossible to determine at this point in time.
There are satellite images, taken when the Russians still controlled the region. There is eyewitness testimony of survivors. There are interceptions by Western intelligence sources. Given all of this, the chance that Ukrainians committed these war crimes is practically zero.
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PS One of the sources that released intercepted communications from Bucha was the Germans. I doubt they have any reason they doctor them.
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after spending a few hours watching the "alternative reality" being spun by Russian TV, can I get the raison d'etre of Fox News....
"It can't happen here"?
Really? because to me it already is...
I think I need to take more drugs now...
otherwise I'm gonna get the "sadz"
yes, much, much more...
and I think the piano has been drinking
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I don’t watch tv news. Not even Canadian news.
Diary of doctors and nurses in Bucha-
http://zaborona.com/en/war-diary-of-doctors-from-bucha-one-of-the-hottest-spots-in-ukraine/
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Perhaps he didn’t realize he was sneaking past Ukrainian soldiers (/s)
http://mobile.twitter.com/o_ostapchuk/status/1512643300741816322?s=21&t=q5pqa7gGVzMg-bcZSzduhg
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can you imagine smuggling a switchblade suicide drone into Moscow for the Victory Day Parade, and hitting the VIP stand on live TV?
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This contains video of American volunteers in a firefight. The video is difficult to see, but has good sound.
http://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/u0a94f/a_squad_composed_of_american_volunteers_ambushed/
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An interesting article about the defence of Kyiv.
http://www.ft.com/content/e87fdc60-0d5e-4d39-93c6-7cfd22f770e8
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Interesting article about the use of drones.
http://warontherocks.com/2022/04/of-roadside-bombs-and-drones-putins-looming-insurgency-problem/
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British MOD says Russia now desperately trying to bolster its Forces by calling up ex Military personnel discharged since 2012.
Satellite images show an eight mile column of Russian Orcs approaching Kharkiv from Russia.
That's considerably less than the forty mile column that approached Kyiv at the beginning of the war and shows the scale of Russian losses....so far.
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Well Boris Johnson rocked up in Kyiv today...bringing a much-needed smile to President Zelensky's face.
The UK is going to supply,among other things,much-needed new Harpoon Anti-Ship missile systems and 120 Mastiff heavily armoured patrol vehicles,which weigh 23 tonnes and carry eight troops and two crew.
Boris is becoming quite Churchillian in this war :)
Yes it was indeed great to see the news articles of Boris in Kyiv CB, even video footage of him touring the streets of Kyiv with Zelensky. Kyivians met them both and one gave each one a ceramic Cockerel which has become a symbol of unity and struggle against the Russian Invasion. It's great that the UK is taking such a prominent role in helping the fight against Russia I don't think it would have been that possible were we still a part of the EU to be so prominent. Should all garner a lot of good favour for British guys going out there dating I think :D
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61052643
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http://twitter.com/expatua/status/1512701296796700676
Woman tells how Russians were shocked how Ukrainians lived - "They have all houses made of bricks, laptops and Nutella in every house - it can't be,"
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British MOD says Russia now desperately trying to bolster its Forces by calling up ex Military personnel discharged since 2012.
Satellite images show an eight mile column of Russian Orcs approaching Kharkiv from Russia.
That's considerably less than the forty mile column that approached Kyiv at the beginning of the war and shows the scale of Russian losses....so far.
Yes they struggle to recruit soldiers.
True or false I have read that 60 paratroopers have quit and are facing prosecution now.
Some attorneys are helping soldiers to find out some procedural ways to not go to the war.
A lot of Russian elite military forces have suffered severe losses, probably more than the regulars troops. Conscripts are not useful and are easily defeated.
Ukraine focuses to recruit as many as possible experienced soldiers while the territorial defense performs other tasks (but still very useful for the fight).
Do you know when the next Ukrainian contingent will be operational?
I don't feel that the Russian HQ has really drawn the lessons of the five previous weeks for the moment, while Ukrainian forces are fine-tuning their skills and improving their interarm expericence with new technologies.
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An interesting article about the defence of Kyiv.
http://www.ft.com/content/e87fdc60-0d5e-4d39-93c6-7cfd22f770e8
Need to pay to read this. Often time (if I have a subscription to a source) I cut and paste such articles for the benefit of other readers.
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I'm really surprised that Ukraine hasn't figured out that they can buy tons of bulk Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer in Rostov
and ship it to Crimea over Boris Rotenberg's "super pooper" bridge
and accidentally blow it up
this would be REAL easy to do...
you'd need a really small crew and budget for this
just sayin...
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I'm really surprised that Ukraine hasn't figured out that they can buy tons of bulk Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer in Rostov
and ship it to Crimea over Boris Rotenberg's "super pooper" bridge
and accidentally blow it up
this would be REAL easy to do...
you'd need a really small crew and budget for this
just sayin...
:ROFL:
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I'm really surprised that Ukraine hasn't figured out that they can buy tons of bulk Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer in Rostov
and ship it to Crimea over Boris Rotenberg's "super pooper" bridge
and accidentally blow it up
this would be REAL easy to do...
you'd need a really small crew and budget for this
just sayin...
Lots of guys trained to do just that in the u.s.
The recent pile of ukranians training here may have got some tips
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23-year-old Nazar Nebozhenskyi, who saved 20 fellow soldiers by drawing fire from 3 Russian BTRs to himself and destroying 2 of them, being mortally wounded in the process. Remember his name.
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Of bridges being taken out.
Remember Vitalii
Order of the Gold star.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalii_Skakun
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It seems that the 8 mile column of Orcs approaching Kharkiv from Russia has been totally destroyed.
Witnesses report a 13 km convoy has been destroyed with 2000 bodies and lots and lots of equipment.
The source is M. Anoctono adviser to the Ukraine Minister of Domestic Affairs 2015-2021.
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It seems that the 8 mile column of Orcs approaching Kharkiv from Russia has been totally destroyed.
Witnesses report a 13 km convoy has been destroyed with 2000 bodies and lots and lots of equipment.
The source is M. Anoctono adviser to the Ukraine Minister of Domestic Affairs 2015-2021.
Google search returns zero concerning this.
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ML,
Google is such a monetized search platform I think it really buries results.
Try dogpile or other sources.
Ukraine live map.on Twitter has references to it.
And the report by the Ukrainian official.
http://t.co/BtPJRLsnII
No idea how accurate the report is.
They also show Russia took out a s300 antiaircraft unit near mikolaev, so far most of what they show has ultimately been confirmed.
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An 8 mile long Russian military convoy with hundreds of vehicles (including armored vehicles, truck towed artillery & support equipment) was reportedly destroyed by Ukrainian forces while moving east of Kharkiv towards Izyum.<a href="http://t.co/4j2dIYv8kP">http://t.co/4j2dIYv8kP</a> <a href="http://t.co/aUt9lTLrwx">pic.twitter.com/aUt9lTLrwx</a></p>— OSINT UK (@jon96179496) <a href="http://twitter.com/jon96179496/status/1513098372634263553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"
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Also the story from a Canadian volunteer soldier in Ukraine.
http://mobile.twitter.com/canadianukrain1/status/1513270462746398724?s=21&t=QNRptmQLMlkDxabnCuNqiQ
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ML,
Google is such a monetized search platform I think it really buries results.
Try dogpile or other sources.
+1
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http://twitter.com/jenniferwilton/status/1513396409818656769?s=20&t=ed0gfPw7WvVcRmILkHuSVw
„Der Krieg in der Ukraine war der Punkt, an dem es nicht mehr möglich war zu schweigen.“ Die russischen Journalistin #MarinaOvsyannikova schreibt jetzt für
@welt
. Hier - und http://welt.de
“The war in Ukraine was the point where it was no longer possible to remain silent.” Russian journalist #MarinaOvsyannikova now writes for
@welt
. Here - and http://welt.de
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Mariupol is about to fall..
This morning the 36th Separate Marine Brigade of the Ukrainian military defending #Mariupol released a "farewell" message on their Facebook page saying they are running out of ammunition and asking Ukrainians to remember them. [translated]
http://www.facebook.com/36obrmp/posts/1193721624498582
Dear Ukrainian people.
We are the 36th Marine Brigade named after Rear Admiral Mykhailo Bilynsky, who, without betraying the oath of allegiance in 2014, left the Crimea and continued to perform the task of defending Ukraine with dignity.
We have been defending Mariupol for 47 days since the beginning of the war. We were bombed from planes, we were fired upon from artillery, tanks and other firearms. We defended ourselves with dignity, doing the impossible. But any resources tend to run out.
During the fighting, we were once given 50,122 shells, 20 minutes a few enlaws and starlin Elon Musk - thank you Elon, he escaped many air strikes and still works. We were not given anything more. Without the ability to defend ourselves, the enemy gradually pushed us back to the Azovmash plant, surrounded us with fire and is now trying to destroy us. There was an option to bring reserves to us to strengthen and continue the defense. There were options for the brigade to make a breakthrough and go to their troops. We reported this to OTU East and they started planning the operation. Sodol and Delyatitsky tried to do something, but their senior staffs were busy. We reported about it to the Environmental Protection Agency, they said stay hold, we promised a helicopter that never arrived. We talked to the commander-in-chief who promised to unblock it. We spoke with the Guarantor who guaranteed us either a political or military solution to the situation. For more than a month, the Marines fought without replenishment of ammunition, without food, without water, almost lacking from a puddle and died in packs. The mountain of the wounded is almost half of the brigade. Whose limbs are torn off and can walk back to work. All the infantry were killed and the gunfights were fought by artillerymen, anti-aircraft gunners, communications of the driver and the cook. Even the orchestra. They die but fight. We are gradually coming to an end. Wise generals advise to take ammunition from the enemy. Probably these scoop SUVs are not extinct, so many people will die in vain because of them. There were chances. There were opportunities, but due to the urgency of reporting vertically, they were not implemented. Nobody wants to talk to us anymore because we are written off. Today will probably be the last fight as there is no BC left. Further into hand-to-hand combat. Then for some death, and for some captivity.
Dear Ukrainian people.
I do not know what will happen next, but I beg you to remember the Marines with a kind word, and no matter how things develop further, do not speak ill of the Marines.
They did everything possible and impossible.
Because we are ALWAYS FAITHFUL!
11.04.2022…
Google translate, I take no responsibility for errors (which there are)
Original:
Дорогий український народ.
Ми 36 бригада морської піхоти імені контр-адмірала Михайла Білинського, незрадивши присяги 2014 вийшли з Криму і продовжували гідно виконувати завданя щодо оборони України.
З початку вийни мы вже 47 суток захищаемо Мариуполь. Нас бомбили с самолетов, нас обстреливали с атилерии, танков и других огневых средств. Мы достойно держали оборону делая невозможное. Но любые ресурсы имеют свойство заканчиватся.
За время боевых действий нам один раз передали 50 122 снарядов, 20 мин немного энлавов и старлинк Илон Маск - спаибо Илон, он выдежал множество авиаударов и до сих пор работает. Больше нам не передали ничего. Без бк не имея возможности оборонятся противник постепенно оттеснил нас на завод Азовмаш, окружил сковал огнем и теперь пытается нас уничтожить. Был вариант привести к нам резервы чтоб усилить и продоолжить оборону. Были варианты бригаде совершить прорыв и выйти к своим войскам. Мы докладывали об этом в ОТУ Схід и они начинали планувати операцию. Содоль, Делятицкий пытались чтото сделать, но их старшие штабы заварачивали. Мы докладывали об этом в ООС они говорили тримайтесь мы работаем, обещали вертолет который так и не прилетел. Мы разговаривали с главнокомандующим который пообещал деблокаду. Мы разговаривали с Гарантом который гарантировал нам или политическое или военное решение ситуации. Больше месяца морпехи воевали без пополнения боепривасов, без еды, без воды чуть не ли лакая из лужи и погибали пачками. Гора раненых составляет чуть ли не половина бригады. У кого неоторваны конечности и могут ходить возвращаются в строй. Пехота вся погибла и стрелковые бои ведут артилеристы зенитчики связисты водителя и повора. Даже оркестр. Погибают но борются. Мы постепенно заканчиваемся. Мудрые генералы советуют отбирать боеприпасы у противника. Наверно не вымерли эти савковые паркетники поэтому много народу изза них умрет зря. Были шансы. Были возможности но изза сыкливости докладывать по вертекали они не реалезованы. С нами уже никто нехочет общатся потому что мы списаны. Сегодня будет наверное крайний бой так как бк не осталось. Дальше в рукопашную. Дальше для некоторых смерть, а для некоторых плен.
Дорогой украинский народ.
Я не знаю что будет дальше, но я очень тебя прошу помяни морских пехотинцев добрым словом и независимо как будут развиватся дальше события неговорите плохо про морскую пехоту.
Они сделали все возможное и невозможное.
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Very sad news for Ukraine and the defenders of Mariupol.
About a week ago President Zelensky suggested they withdraw but they said no because they refused to leave their wounded behind.
Very disappointing that they felt abandoned and forgotten about by their senior Command. :(
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Very sad news for Ukraine and the defenders of Mariupol.
About a week ago President Zelensky suggested they withdraw but they said no because they refused to leave their wounded behind.
Very disappointing that they felt abandoned and forgotten about by their senior Command. :(
Commander-in-Chief of #ZSU Valery Zaluzhny commented on the situation in #Mariupol.
"The defense of Mariupol continues. Communication with the units that heroically hold the city is stable and maintained. We are doing everything possible and impossible to win and save lives."
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Seems that the 160 left of them surrendered at the Azovstal Plant this morning.
Throwing rubble/rocks at the Russians really wasn't much of an option.
Hopefully they will be treated with the respect they deserve.
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In latest news (April 11, 2022) I could find in dogpile search indicated zero about destruction of any Russian convoy near Kharkiv.
http://www.laprensalatina.com/at-least-11-civilians-killed-14-wounded-in-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv/
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Wife and I seriously don't understand why Ukraine military cannot move south and attack the Russians surrounding Mariupol.
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In latest news (April 11, 2022) I could find in dogpile search indicated zero about destruction of any Russian convoy near Kharkiv.
http://www.laprensalatina.com/at-least-11-civilians-killed-14-wounded-in-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv/ (http://www.laprensalatina.com/at-least-11-civilians-killed-14-wounded-in-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv/)
It seems odd that there have been no phone videos of the "destroyed" convoy by now.
Such a blow to the Russian forces would surely have been gloated on by the Ukrainian forces.
Hopefully it wasn't misinformation from the people concerned...i don't see what they've gained from it if so.
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In latest news (April 11, 2022) I could find in dogpile search indicated zero about destruction of any Russian convoy near Kharkiv.
http://www.laprensalatina.com/at-least-11-civilians-killed-14-wounded-in-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv/
The Twitter tweets I posted links to regarding the various reports of the convoys destruction ,including the Ukrainian official (on a Ukrainian gov Twitter accout)
We're all found on dogpile yesterday evening near the top of the search list.
There was zero mention of those on Google using the same search terms
Im.not saying to utilize dogpile only either, was just suggesting one better alternative to just using Google which will severaly limit your resources.
I also don't know your specific search words,nor do I say the convoy was destroyed.
I will say the sources have been reasonably accurate throughout this though I highly doubt the 2000 casuality number in a convoy ambush attack.
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Wife and I seriously don't understand why Ukraine military cannot move south and attack the Russians surrounding Mariupol.
The Canadian guy,who's fighting in the Kherson region,covered this.
"it is currently impossible to de-blockade Mariupol.Our troops will be sitting ducks in the Steppes ,under Air-strikes from Rostov and Crimea."
This is one of the reasons why the Ukrainians are desperately asking NATO to close the skies.
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Wife and I seriously don't understand why Ukraine military cannot move south and attack the Russians surrounding Mariupol.
You'd have to know troop numbers and equipment in the area.
You do already know they were cut off and surrounded for weeks
Obviously pretty strong Russian troop contingents cut them.off.
You dint have naval control of the black sea or.air control of mariupol to get supplies in or protect your troops
Russias being dropping supplies including heavy artillery equipment at the Port city just west.
That's huge issue, its not like.ukraine is winning this on all fronts,
So you'd have to determine that strenght russia jas there vs the possibility of reaching the objective, and the likely losses incurred. Only as example do you lose a battalion to possibly save the shreds of what's left of one? And more likely only.lose it in an unsuccessful attempt at such?
We simply don't have that info to know why they made that choice ,nor do we know that they arnt tryingvto push south and south east.as much as they can (across the map they have been)
It's a war. Not trying to be rude,just trying to explain its not like Hollywood movies.
You don't throw your resources away in Mariupol,if at all possible or realistic you'd secure them.
You also dont throw your resources away in trying an impossible task if that's what was determined.
The other side of it is more calculating.
Since Russia seems determined beyond all common sense to waste so many resources on making a point in mariupol( ( I do believe wiping out azov let's them.claim a denazification win by may 9th)
Do you let them do so from a strategic standpoint as it ties up their efforts to mostly concentrated one spot and let's your troops concentrate and prepare defensive positions in other critical.areas?
Does it let russia have face saving.win
which can soften.their.position at the negotiation tables you are engaged in?
There is sadly a lot more at stake than those making a last stand there.
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The Azov Battalion is also running low on ammo apparently.
Surrendering probably isn't an option for them.
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I feel the progress Ukraine has made near mikolaev and into kherson is likely from the protection provided by anti air equipment in the area.
The reported loss of a s300.near mikolaev is bad.
Hopefully they have a lot more.
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Could be getting worse..the Russians claim to have destroyed the S-300 supplied by Slovakia .
Slovakia has not confirmed this yet.
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Apparently the post about Mariupol is false, site was hacked according to TV7
http://www.facebook.com/tv7mariupol/posts/5056417044437238
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Could be getting worse..the Russians claim to have destroyed the S-300 supplied by Slovakia .
Slovakia has not confirmed this yet.
I hope not.
That sais I do absolutely wish reports of equipment sent is not made public until long after it wouldn't matter.
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Apparently the post about Mariupol is false, site was hacked according to TV7
http://www.facebook.com/tv7mariupol/posts/5056417044437238 (http://www.facebook.com/tv7mariupol/posts/5056417044437238)
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It's getting to the stage we can't believe anything we hear during this war...with all the false reporting we're starting to hear from both sides.
The Fog of War certainly applies in this conflict.
I think i'll stick to my original source and even then wait until it's confirmed on the major news outlets.
We might have years of this ahead of us.
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It's getting to the stage we can't believe anything we hear during this war...with all the false reporting we're starting to hear from both sides.
The Fog of War certainly applies in this conflict.
I think i'll stick to my original source and even then wait until it's confirmed on the major news outlets.
We might have years of this ahead of us.
Like BBC?
http://tinyurl.com/2h5zay74
I agree on what you said, fog of war is hard to get through..
I only post here what I see from more than one trustworthy source.
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Wife and I seriously don't understand why Ukraine military cannot move south and attack the Russians surrounding Mariupol.
Some answers may be found in this article --> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/11/ukraine-last-marines-defending-mariupol-running-out-of-ammunition
Jumper1 addressed it correctly. It's all about numbers of troops (and equipment) defensively and offensively. Those numbers are, and should remain, closely held secrets until long after the engagements.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1594611/russia-chemical-weapons-ukraine-latest-vladimir-putin-mariupol
Putin testing the western response...
if it's OK to use in the UK and Europe in small quantities
then let's steadily increase the quantity in Ukraine
and see what happens
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1594611/russia-chemical-weapons-ukraine-latest-vladimir-putin-mariupol
Putin testing the western response...
if it's OK to use in the UK and Europe in small quantities
then let's steadily increase the quantity in Ukraine
and see what happens
There is no operational benefit in targeting civilians with such weapons. Azov guys holed up in manufacturing plants however - different story. If the Russian government is happy to use a chemical weapon during the Dubrovka siege then they'll be more than willing to use them to clean out a steel plant full of Nazis. Obviously the Russkies want to keep those plants in tact and have good intel who is stuck there... sounds like one or more "VIPs"... some say French, some say British, some say an American 3-star General... but someone noteworthy is there.
In other news -
An Italian journalist has disclosed the serial number on the missile that hit the train station. It's reported that it is a Ukrainian missile... aaand the west goes silent on that one.
A French journalist went with a few others to enlist in the foreign legion. He reported it is being run by Americans and not Ukrainians. Straight up a US operation. Pat have you seen that news footage?
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Pro Russian telegram accounts had bragged about that missile being launched into a crowd of "Ukrainian militants" before it was clear civilians, including children, had been hit.
Why are you assuming the Italian report is accurate?
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPz5ykbXsAMSHKl?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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There is no operational benefit in targeting civilians with such weapons.
There's no operational benefit in torturing and executing civilians, raping children and women, and looting and destroying homes, but that's all happening too.
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Wife and I seriously don't understand why Ukraine military cannot move south and attack the Russians surrounding Mariupol.
The Russians have pinned down a large portion of the Ukrainian army in the south, and any moving from the north will face death from above. Supply lines will get hit and without them they're as good as dead. Southern Ukraine is no longer Ukraine! Plenty of Russian flags going up on buildings... if you're reading MSM then you're probably getting a distorted view. A mix of Telegram channels will give a better picture.
Some analysts have stated the Russian troop movements in the north were a bluff so that they could more effectively perform their operations in the south. Once the south falls it's as good as game over.
Boe - I'm not saying the Italian reporter is accurate, I have said it was inconclusive (but it's funny how it drops out of the news once it is reported). I've been pretty consistent in saying the first victim of war is the truth. Without an open mind one will fall back into personal biases.
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The Canadian guy,who's fighting in the Kherson region,covered this.
"it is currently impossible to de-blockade Mariupol.Our troops will be sitting ducks in the Steppes ,under Air-strikes from Rostov and Crimea."
This is one of the reasons why the Ukrainians are desperately asking NATO to close the skies.
Ukrainian forces are also stretched thin. The main bulk of a UKR forces are in defensive positions in the Donbas preparing for the RF thrust there in the coming days.
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There's no operational benefit in torturing and executing civilians, raping children and women, and looting and destroying homes, but that's all happening too.
Where's the evidence of chemical weapons targeting civilians?
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If chemical weapons have been dropped in Maruipol, they will be targetting civilians, as civilians are trapped there. This should also be a red line for use against soldiers.
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Oh, and as for Americans training foreign soldiers, they trained Ukrainians. American military advisors is the reason the Ukrainian army is now professional. I don’t think that makes this a proxy war, or an "American" war. Russia invaded Ukraine. Let's not forget that.
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A French journalist went with a few others to enlist in the foreign legion. He reported it is being run by Americans and not Ukrainians. Straight up a US operation. Pat have you seen that news footage?
Foreign legion run by a foreigner...who'd have thought it ?
You do make me laugh. :rolleyes:
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The Russians have pinned down a large portion of the Ukrainian army in the south, and any moving from the north will face death from above. Supply lines will get hit and without them they're as good as dead. Southern Ukraine is no longer Ukraine! Plenty of Russian flags going up on buildings... if you're reading MSM then you're probably getting a distorted view. A mix of Telegram channels will give a better picture.
Some analysts have stated the Russian troop movements in the north were a bluff so that they could more effectively perform their operations in the south. Once the south falls it's as good as game over.
Telegram accounts are not definitive proof of anything. In fact, they are more distorted than MSM.
As for troop movements, what kind of an idiot military planner would sacrifice men and tanks for this?
It's not game over unless the Russians kill everyone. The amount of hatred they have sown is significant.
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The Russians have pinned down a large portion of the Ukrainian army in the south, and any moving from the north will face death from above. Supply lines will get hit and without them they're as good as dead. Southern Ukraine is no longer Ukraine! Plenty of Russian flags going up on buildings... if you're reading MSM then you're probably getting a distorted view. A mix of Telegram channels will give a better picture.
Some analysts have stated the Russian troop movements in the north were a bluff so that they could more effectively perform their operations in the south. Once the south falls it's as good as game over.
The reports i'm hearing are that the Russian Orcs never reached Odesa,that they got their arses handed to them at Nikolaev,hence why they're hiding behind Kherson and firing missiles into Nikolaev from there,and that they're losing troops hand over fist in the Kherson region,and with their Helicopters blown up on Kherson Airfield ( with plenty of footage available on that for your perusal ) as they desperately try to hang on there.
Sounds like Southern Ukraine is still Ukraine to me.
In 6 weeks 5 days Russia has taken 1 City,which they're struggling to hold onto..when you said they'd take the whole country in days.
You need to do better than that..you're starting to sound desperate. :rolleyes:
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rwd123,
Just for you.
"Russian shelling has continued in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions,with Ukrainian Forces repulsing several assaults, resulting in the destruction of Russian Tanks,Vehicles and Artillery Equipment."
This is from the British Ministry of Defence Intelligence report for 11th April,,which will be rather more reliable than the comics you read,
You're welcome.
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The welcome Ukrainians have come to expect from the invaders. And rwd believes they will just turn into Russians overnight.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-soliders-rape/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10707933/Ukrainian-woman-raped-Chechen-soldier-slit-victims-throat-near-Kyiv.html
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that was freakin clever of the Russians to do it in Mariupol
cuz ain't nobody gonna get a sample of the UAV sarin bomb out for independent analysis
I'd expect MORE to come
and I expect them to setup a production lab somewhere in occupied Ukraine
like they did in Syria
and switch to Novichok (see my previous lethality index post)
I'm a Scooby Doobie Novichok Newbie
and I've got Atropine eyes the size of dinner plates
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http://youtu.be/N1vHCOD57Og
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka4ToCiAEyM
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There is no operational benefit in targeting civilians with such weapons.
If you believe that, then you do not recognize the operation.
Ask yourself - what kind of operation would be benefited by targeting civilians? Then you will see the operational benefit.
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There's no operational benefit in torturing and executing civilians, raping children and women, and looting and destroying homes, but that's all happening too.
Actually, there is benefit. (Think of boxers - they try to get under the skin of their opponent so they react on emotion, instead of using their head. Terror tactics take your opponent out of their right mind.)
Ask yourself what kind of operation could be benefited by those things. Then you will see the operational benefit.
Russia's GPD is expected to contract by 11% this year.
Ukraine's GPD is expected to contract 45%.
If you destroy the infrastructure and morale, their GDP will suffer for decades. PTSD will not go away as soon as the war ends, regardless who wins.
What was the operational benefit of the Holodomor? It broke the Ukrainian resistance to collective farming.
How long did Ukraine suffer the emotional after-effects of the Holodomor? Does it still affect the psyche of Ukrainians?
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http://youtu.be/8RyhHptZmfA
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I think if Ukraine was smart, they would start full-scale production of alcohol. In some, put psycho-active drugs, especially ones which cause hallucinations and paranoia. Let a few drunk Orcs attack everyone in their battalion.
In other bottles, put poisons which cause blindness, or incapacitate soldiers. Don't kill them though. A dead soldier only removes one soldier from the battlefield. A wounded soldier requires 2 more to take care of him - a wounded soldier removes 3 from the battlefield. Or just make them so sick they can barely do anything. True combat ineffective.
Stock stores in front line areas with these bottles of alcohol. Do a tactical retreat, allowing the Russians to take the village. Allow the Russians to do what Orcs do...loot and plunder and drink alcohol. When they are sick and hallucinating, counter-attack and drive them back farther than when they began.
In central Italy, the Roman army nearly made honeybees go extinct. They discovered that if they put a clay pot hive in a catapult and threw it at the enemy, it made a great weapon. While it wouldn't kill the enemy, the stinging bees took a lot of the fight out of them.
The Ukrainians would be well served to find ways of taking the fight out of the Russians, even if they are non-lethal methods.
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The Russians have pinned down a large portion of the Ukrainian army in the south, and any moving from the north will face death from above. Supply lines will get hit and without them they're as good as dead. Southern Ukraine is no longer Ukraine! Plenty of Russian flags going up on buildings... if you're reading MSM then you're probably getting a distorted view. A mix of Telegram channels will give a better picture.
Some analysts have stated the Russian troop movements in the north were a bluff so that they could more effectively perform their operations in the south. Once the south falls it's as good as game over.
Boe - I'm not saying the Italian reporter is accurate, I have said it was inconclusive (but it's funny how it drops out of the news once it is reported). I've been pretty consistent in saying the first victim of war is the truth. Without an open mind one will fall back into personal biases.
I watch a mix of channels.
I've not seen anything that shows recent Russian progress.
Weeks ago yes, all the way up.to Kirov rog areas .
Later pushed all.the way back.to kherson. They lost ton of ground north, completely, then lost a lot south.
They did seemingly make a bit of headway back on the southbeast portions yesterday and today ,but nowhere near the amount they had made prior .really seems a few klicks at best.
The biggest points today for Russia was the Russian defense ministry saying they took out some headquarters and a lot of equipment in.the donestk westetn region thru missle strikes.
If true that's significant.
They seem to have only made a few streets progress in mariupol, time is on thier side there, so they dont need to.
If you are seeing flags raised in telegram, share the towns or villages nsmes,I'd be interested, I'm.sure others would as well since we may have family members there
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the gas target is the central heating system of Mariupol
see
http://mariupolrada.gov.ua/en/news/u-mariupoli-modernizujut-sistemu-teplopostachannja60ae230470849
these are a BUNCH of underground tunnels which are being used by the UA military for cover and movement
the gas is denser than air and will collect in the tunnels
since there aren't really too many intact tall buildings in Mariupol, there's no place for anyone to hide in the city from gas (normally get to the roof of the tallest building)
and I doubt many people have CBW protective gear....
about 100 kg of A-232 will kill 50% of the people in a 1 km radius
so I can imagine a drone with a small bomb can "take-out" a city block or so...
since Odessa has maybe 30,000 armed citizens ready to take on invaders
I can imagine that use in Mariupol is just a prelude to Odessa and the catacombs
here's a pic from a central heating tunnel in Moscow
these were all built in Soviet period, and I've been in several in different Russian and Ukrainian cities
they all look the same
they used to be prime "rave" spots
damn, I miss the good ole days...
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1594611/russia-chemical-weapons-ukraine-latest-vladimir-putin-mariupol (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1594611/russia-chemical-weapons-ukraine-latest-vladimir-putin-mariupol)
Putin testing the western response...
if it's OK to use in the UK and Europe in small quantities
then let's steadily increase the quantity in Ukraine
and see what happens
The UK's Armed Forces Minister James Heappey did not rule out that British or NATO Troops could be deployed in Ukraine if the Orcs used Chemical Weapons
When asked,when speaking on the radio today, whether he could rule out deploying British or NATO Troops on Ukrainian soil he replied "No,all options are on the table ".
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There are basically two options for the RF army.
Put their troops in entrenched defensive positions to let the Ukrainian army attack, so it will reverse the attrition.
And try to negotiate later on this basis.
OR
From the entrenched defensive position, rebuild offensive forces and try to cut the bulk of the Ukrainian Donbass divisions as
they have already tried.
The fact is, for the moment, they don't have such forces. Not enough armored forces, not enough skilled infantrymen. Or theseforces are being rebuilt and it takes time before they reach the southeast front.
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There are basically two options for the RF army.
Put their troops in entrenched defensive positions to let the Ukrainian army attack, so it will reverse the attrition.
And try to negotiate later on this basis.
OR
From the entrenched defensive position, rebuild offensive forces and try to cut the bulk of the Ukrainian Donbass divisions as
they have already tried.
The fact is, for the moment, they don't have such forces. Not enough armored forces, not enough skilled infantrymen. Or theseforces are being rebuilt and it takes time before they reach the southeast front.
They have a third option..pack their s..t and go back to Dumpski.
The Ukrainian Forces in the East are used to Trench Warfare...they've been doing it for eight years...they'll just wear the Orcs out if they try to get into defensive positions.
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so...
dear friends,
it appears that over 100 FSB members of the "fifth directorate" responsible for Ukraine and other FSU regions have been purged
AND Vladislav Surkov who is a rabid anti-Ukrainian and former deputy prime minister has been arrested
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov
THIS is major...
haven't heard how this effects the GRU, usually when one branch falls, the other rises
the GRU organized shock battalions in the 2nd Chechen war and gave themselves the credit for victory
will they repeat
GRU is Novichok fluent
Disclaimer: I'm a Surkov "fanboy" when he writes under his pseudonym of Natan Dubovitsky
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so...
dear friends,
it appears that over 100 FSB members of the "fifth directorate" responsible for Ukraine and other FSU regions have been purged
AND Vladislav Surkov who is a rabid anti-Ukrainian and former deputy prime minister has been arrested
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov)
THIS is major...
haven't heard how this effects the GRU, usually when one branch falls, the other rises
the GRU organized shock battalions in the 2nd Chechen war and gave themselves the credit for victory
will they repeat
GRU is Novichok fluent
Disclaimer: I'm a Surkov "fanboy" when he writes under his pseudonym of Natan Dubovitsky
What's your analysis of Surkov's arrest?
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"What's your analysis of Surkov's arrest? "
Those who KNOW don't SAY
and those who SAY don't KNOW
and besides, no one in Russia takes my calls anymore
but the purge flu seems to have infected a LOT of top-level siloviki (which is Putin's turf after all)
including Kostyukov, head of the GRU
looks like the Houston Gazprom office is closing and transfering GRU staff to Mexico
no more consulting work
later other segments of Russian government and industry will get sick as well
not healthy being there while Pootin is angry and in a rage
whenever someone displeases him, this is the usual result
but I've never heard of a Pootin rage-athon this big
I expect some extreme action to take place
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including Kostyukov, head of the GRU
looks like the Houston Gazprom office is closing and transfering GRU staff to Mexico
no more consulting work
Hahaha you still find a way to my funny bone
Udachi!
Bill
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"Hahaha you still find a way to my funny bone"
is that what you call IT?
I call mine "Mr. 11 inches"
cuz if it was an inch longer it'd be a foot!!
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"What's your analysis of Surkov's arrest? "
Those who KNOW don't SAY
and those who SAY don't KNOW
and besides, no one in Russia takes my calls anymore
but the purge flu seems to have infected a LOT of top-level siloviki (which is Putin's turf after all)
including Kostyukov, head of the GRU
looks like the Houston Gazprom office is closing and transfering GRU staff to Mexico
no more consulting work
later other segments of Russian government and industry will get sick as well
not healthy being there while Pootin is angry and in a rage
whenever someone displeases him, this is the usual result
but I've never heard of a Pootin rage-athon this big
I expect some extreme action to take place
Lol it's because I don't know and I don't say that I ask 8)
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Viktor Medvedchuk who was supposed to be Pootin's chosen figurehead to replace Zelensky, but this idea failed just like the rest of this special operation
he was just arrested after going into hiding
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http://saharareporters.com/2022/04/11/russian-soldier-arrested-after-filming-himself-raping-baby-ukraine
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russian-soldier-arrested-for-raping-baby-in-ukraine-after-sick-video/news-story/4369cbb9d8a92968b8ea8e1b093dada2
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Russians deny this rape occured
they claim that this was consensual
and just go ahead and TRY to slap ME for this joke Will!!!
meanwhile...
Rosa Mira
What IF
Russia’s disastrous invasion of Ukraine
was deliberately engineered to fail
and lastly, I believe that if the messiah was ever gonna show up
he'd have been here by now
the world lost it's groove a long time ago
and it's gonna be all downhill from now on
abandon all the illusions
and the doors of perception will open
and a magician can become a king
if I were Pootin, I'd kill Surkov instead of leaving him in jail
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An Italian journalist has disclosed the serial number on the missile that hit the train station. It's reported that it is a Ukrainian missile... aaand the west goes silent on that one.
I looked into this. The markings suggest the missle was a Tochka-U class. The serial number the Italian journalist referred to is from the factory, and was applied to all rocket shells at the JSC Votkinsk Machine Building Plant (Воткинский завод) in Russia. That factory has produced missiles since 1957. All missiles from that factory bear that particular serial number, whether those missiles are launched from Russia, Ukraine, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Syria, Yemen, or North Korea. Russia claims they do not use the Tochka-U class missile. However, on April 8, a Tochka-U missile was shot down over Chernihiv by Ukraine. That missile had been launched by the Russians from Belarus. According to Amnesty International's Crisis Evidence Lab, a Tochka missile was launched by Russia on an aid distribution point in Vuhledar on February 24, killing four.
Missiles from that same series were used by Russia in Syria, including on an oil refinery in Aleppo. Russian media was full of reports of this strike.
Bottom line is, this wasn't a Ukrainian missile.
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I looked into this. The markings suggest the missle was a Tochka-U class. The serial number the Italian journalist referred to is from the factory, and was applied to all rocket shells at the JSC Votkinsk Machine Building Plant (Воткинский завод) in Russia. That factory has produced missiles since 1957. All missiles from that factory bear that particular serial number, whether those missiles are launched from Russia, Ukraine, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Syria, Yemen, or North Korea. Russia claims they do not use the Tochka-U class missile. However, on April 8, a Tochka-U missile was shot down over Chernihiv by Ukraine. That missile had been launched by the Russians from Belarus. According to Amnesty International's Crisis Evidence Lab, a Tochka missile was launched by Russia on an aid distribution point in Vuhledar on February 24, killing four.
Missiles from that same series were used by Russia in Syria, including on an oil refinery in Aleppo. Russian media was full of reports of this strike.
Bottom line is, this wasn't a Ukrainian missile.
I believe the number is designation numbers, the serial numbers I think are stamped not painted.
You won't typical have a 5 of 6 digot serial.number armaments in any military
If you look at the list of Ukrainian missles and thier numbers listed, in that referenced article none of them have any real bearing on.anything but place of manufacturer .
That article premise is suspect at best.
In addition no same person creating a false flag paints a message on a missiles body ,but leaves a painted serial number that would distinguish who fired it.
Also, I saw that someone faked a BBC article on exactly this.
Going to.the.trouble of faking a BBC report to try and legitimize the info is a pretty good indicator its completely false
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Viktor Medvedchuk who was supposed to be Pootin's chosen figurehead to replace Zelensky, but this idea failed just like the rest of this special operation
he was just arrested after going into hiding
Wasn't he put under house arrest previously?
Buying and selling coal.from.donbass?
Being a political.opposition leader with 13 or so percent of people's vote, I do find the jailing ,wether house or cell,of opposition as something Ukrainians leadership shouldn't be doing.
It looks bad no matter hoe you slice it to me.
The charges are what?
What were they prior?
I'm obviously pro Ukraine, but these type of things look exactly like what putin does in the world view.
Unless making it much more clear what the prior offense was,and current one is.
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yes, Google is your friend....
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yes, Google is your friend....
Lol! RT.NEWS?
It was questions.
I simply never heard the actual charges/reasons for his prior or current arrests.
Or if it ever made a hearing,a trial or any judicially procedure previously.
I'm no fan of the guy,was just pointing out it looks bad *if* any administration imprisons opponents without due cause or clear explanation of charges filed.
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Looks like Mariupol is about to be taken over by Russia, I'm surprised they've managed to hold out so long, dove remarkably well considering.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-60894476
May not look good for the guy in question if he got to surrender as it may not do for those that do:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/13/aiden-aslin-british-fight-ukraine-mariupol/
Looks like the Russians were trying to draw out his unit into attacking them so they could get at them more easily by attacking civilian targets. In the end though lack of supplies over time seem to have been their main enemy. Being surrounded and cut off though there was no hope of that.
Mariupol is one city that will likely not be easy to recover soon, retaking Kherson will likely be an easier target for Ukraine.
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he's so close to Putin that he was one of the first sanctioned over Crimea by the Obama admininstration in 2014
"Medvedchuk is also being designated because he has materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support to Yanukovych and because he is a leader of an entity that has, or whose members have, engaged in actions or policies that undermine democratic processes or institutions in Ukraine and actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine."
it would take me WAY too long to write out his specific activities of theft and treason and treason and theft
he'd been under house arrest for around a year, and decided to leave....
bad choice
I would't worry too much over the "optics"
lawyers in my opinion, have a natural ability for defusing IEDs and clearing land mines
perhaps he should be employed this way as a form of "community service" to pay off his debt to Ukrainian society
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Partial list of USA aid to Ukraine, does not include additional aid pledged in the past week.
http://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/2992414/fact-sheet-us-security-assistance-to-ukraine/
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photo of the new underwater cruiser ;D
Putin commented the news: "Moskva has not sank, it is a special underwater operation"
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Another update from Wali, the Canadian sniper.
http://m.facebook.com/1411163505845340/posts/2745725749055769/
Translation:
The battle for Kyiv ended in victory. It is the greatest Russian defeat in decades.
I am not in Kyiv anymore. We are already positioned to hit the next Russian reinforcements. We have heavy equipment able to pulverize Russian armor.
Russians are afraid of Ukrainians. As soon as clashes become serious, they abandon their vehicles and run away. We are making jokes about this, pretending that Russian reinforcements are in fact supply convoys for the Ukrainian army.
Faith and Fight
Wali
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It would be REALLY stoopid of master strategist Vlad Pootin, to just repeat the strategy of the first failed assault and expect a different outcome this time…
one of the missing elements of this war has been Russian air power
if it were the USA doing this, before a single ground unit moved, there would’ve been a MASSIVE air assault, THEN the ground assault….
there’s no surprise element involved here now, Ukrainians know what’s coming and where
so it’s not like he doesn’t want to “telegraph” his plans
Pootin has hundreds of the OLD TU-95s, that fly above the range of western supplied shoulder-launched missiles and these can carpet bomb Ukrainian positions in front of him
he has the MOAB, Mother Of ALL Bombs, a giant thermobaric bomb that has a 400 meter kill radius
after studying the response of the USA in regards to poison gas in Syria, I’m sure he realizes that if he uses gas in areas where samples can’t be sent to the west, there won’t really be much of a response
personally, I don’t think there are ANY red lines in Ukraine drawn by NATO
they are happy just to sit back and let Ukrainians do the dirty work without risk to themselves
this pretty much gives Pooty Poot carte blanche
he has too much to lose to use restraint
so this time, the gloves come off and it’s gonna be a dirty fight
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I think the risk with that, is, they take Ukraine, and then what? Are they going to trade with China and India? Vacation on the shores of Phuket? Buy fake guccis from Shanghai?
The reality is that Russia will be isolated for a decade if they continue this war. The countries that will be willing to trade with them won't increase the Russian standard of living.
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It would be REALLY stoopid of master strategist Vlad Pootin, to just repeat the strategy of the first failed assault and expect a different outcome this time…
one of the missing elements of this war has been Russian air power
if it were the USA doing this, before a single ground unit moved, there would’ve been a MASSIVE air assault, THEN the ground assault….
there’s no surprise element involved here now, Ukrainians know what’s coming and where
so it’s not like he doesn’t want to “telegraph” his plans
Pootin has hundreds of the OLD TU-95s, that fly above the range of western supplied shoulder-launched missiles and these can carpet bomb Ukrainian positions in front of him
he has the MOAB, Mother Of ALL Bombs, a giant thermobaric bomb that has a 400 meter kill radius
after studying the response of the USA in regards to poison gas in Syria, I’m sure he realizes that if he uses gas in areas where samples can’t be sent to the west, there won’t really be much of a response
personally, I don’t think there are ANY red lines in Ukraine drawn by NATO
they are happy just to sit back and let Ukrainians do the dirty work without risk to themselves
this pretty much gives Pooty Poot carte blanche
he has too much to lose to use restraint
so this time, the gloves come off and it’s gonna be a dirty fight
If* he has good Intel, then lessons learned early in this should completely change tactics.
As is, having the Moscva off and on flirting within range of Neptune's (which allegedly where attempted on it early on and repelled).shows a lack of him.getting good info.
So is he surrounded with yes men that when wrong ,, fall out of perfectly good helicopters?
Or sent to.the snipers of Ukraine?
To think Russia while sharimg a culture and business ties with ukrainev had such bad understanding of:
1. Ukraine and the general* populace
2. Ukrainian military buildup and on hand munitions as well as high tech weapons
3.military strategy Ukraine might employ
4. Their own militaries lack of logistical ability
While openly building up a mass of troops makes me wonder how inept their intel.is and if he could change his entire related staff if it would help.
They recently put the same guy in charge of the entire operation ,that was previously commander of the southern units.
I know from first hand accounts they botched amphibious attack on nikolaev from their own errors .and failure to wait for better weather
So the guy in charge of those units is leading the entire thing now. If he is the best they have well then carpet bombing is thier best chance
The thermobaric is scary, really scary.
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The Russian implosion will lead to a “closed society” similar to the Stalin era, this process is already underway…
Russia will pivot to China, they will switch roles and Russia will be the junior partner, a resource colony while Europe will transition away from Russian energy
Pootin will continue the incremental acquisition of Ukraine, expand to taking all of Southern Ukraine, cutting off access to Black Sea
Ukraine has already lost 50% of its economy, it will lose more, Russia will be like a giant boa constrictor squeezing the life out of Ukraine, west will tire of the cost of supporting it
and then Russia will swallow Ukraine
occupation of Ukraine is easy
seal off all borders, Berlin-wall style, public executions of partisans, informants EVERYWHERE
mass surveillance
impose puppet government
“The countries that will be willing to trade with them won't increase the Russian standard of living.”
Then I guess the standard of living is gonna fall!!! Yalky Palky
Russia's population is 4 million below the level of 1991 at the breakup of the CCCP
huge number of young people fleeing, so now Russia is trying to halt the exodus
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It would be REALLY stoopid of master strategist Vlad Pootin, to just repeat the strategy of the first failed assault and expect a different outcome this time…
one of the missing elements of this war has been Russian air power
if it were the USA doing this, before a single ground unit moved, there would’ve been a MASSIVE air assault, THEN the ground assault….
there’s no surprise element involved here now, Ukrainians know what’s coming and where
so it’s not like he doesn’t want to “telegraph” his plans
Pootin has hundreds of the OLD TU-95s, that fly above the range of western supplied shoulder-launched missiles and these can carpet bomb Ukrainian positions in front of him
he has the MOAB, Mother Of ALL Bombs, a giant thermobaric bomb that has a 400 meter kill radius
after studying the response of the USA in regards to poison gas in Syria, I’m sure he realizes that if he uses gas in areas where samples can’t be sent to the west, there won’t really be much of a response
personally, I don’t think there are ANY red lines in Ukraine drawn by NATO
they are happy just to sit back and let Ukrainians do the dirty work without risk to themselves
this pretty much gives Pooty Poot carte blanche
he has too much to lose to use restraint
so this time, the gloves come off and it’s gonna be a dirty fight
If that happens the best thing for Ukrainian forces right across the country would be to withdraw and leave the country...with their many weapons given by the west.
The surviving Ukrainian population should all leave too..leaving just the pro-Russian ethnic population remaining.
Then they can form terrorist groups/saboteurs to strike right into the heart of Moscow and St Petersburg...blowing up train stations.apartment blocks,office blocks,police stations , Government buildings and infrastructure and generally spreading carnage and terror among the Orc population.
The Chechens did it but they had a country which Russia could retaliate on...the Ukrainians won't have that problem, until Putin and his Orcs are brought to their knees.
All those anti-tank missiles will be handy for drive-bye's and hitting troop Barracks.
All those Mines left behind in Ukraine by the Orcs will be useful to use in Russia too.
There will be so many of these saboteurs striking from different countries,the Orcs won't know where to look next.
Will it be safe to open that door,or switch on your car Engine,or switch on that light ?
Russia would become a country living in fear...in a real war of attrition with people they don't know where they will strike next.
Destroy Russia from within as they will have destroyed Ukraine from without.
Ukrainians are very capable of fighting dirty too.
Do you think Putin doesn't realize this ?
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If that happens the best thing for Ukrainian forces right across the country would be to withdraw and leave the country...with their many weapons given by the west.
The surviving Ukrainian population should all leave too..leaving just the pro-Russian ethnic population remaining.
Withdraw and leave to where ???
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If you are seeing flags raised in telegram, share the towns or villages nsmes,I'd be interested, I'm.sure others would as well since we may have family members there
I saw a video purporting flags raised in Beryslav a few days ago. I read Alyoshki today but no evidence was provided.
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Withdraw and leave to where ???
Where have all the millions of current Ukrainian refugees gone to ?
The tactics that Krim is suggesting Putin uses there won't be many survivors anyway.but enough to blend into Europe then pay Russia back in spades.
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Pootin will continue the incremental acquisition of Ukraine, expand to taking all of Southern Ukraine, cutting off access to Black Sea
Ukraine has already lost 50% of its economy, it will lose more, Russia will be like a giant boa constrictor squeezing the life out of Ukraine, west will tire of the cost of supporting it
and then Russia will swallow Ukraine
The ol' goat clearly hasn't lost his marbles like Biden.
Once the Russians take out the Ukrainian forces in the east (~50,000) they will march toward Transnistria and lay siege to Odessa. They'll keep it largely in tact like the Germans did with Leningrad - it is a prize. Complete control the southern front and supply lines.
Then all it will take is forces from Belarus to cut off supply lines in the west and it's goodnight nurse. I've heard Zhytomyr but they may go as far as Lviv. No need to assault Kyiv. If it's true that the Russian troop movements in the Kyiv region were to split/reduce troops in the east then that was a masterly move.
The Russian economy will contract but that will happen globally. Most of Asia, which includes the Middle East will continue to trade with Russia (as will large parts of Africa and Latin America). The world will become divided again. The difference however is that the east have the ongoing economic (and military) power over the west, which was the opposite of the Cold War. Europe's financial state is far more precarious than what most people realize.
Oh and in other news - a British soldier captured, an American one killed by Chechen forces, and allegedly an American General has been captured too (I saw video of FSB agents but the man's face was blurred). Pat - how many Frenchmen are holding out in Mariupol...?
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How's your over in days war going Master Strategist ?
Seven weeks and counting later. :rolleyes:
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I saw a video purporting flags raised in Beryslav a few days ago. I read Alyoshki today but no evidence was provided.
Ok.thanks.
Beryslav makes sense as a couple days back.they made pushes towards there,but essentially they controlled everything south of there most of this conflict .
So if they gained beryslav directly across the river its important they crossed, but again they simply went a couple klicks across the.river,that's not a huge advance by any stretch.
Alyoshki.I'm not familiar with and don't see it
They lost.ground yesterday in izum.area and a convoy ax well.as a pontoon bridge.
They had a bridge in Russia damaged by an Ukrainian unit.
They lost moscva as well which is sig ificant om its antiship.and anti air cover it provided for the rest of the fleet.
That will.still.exist from.crimea etc,but it still a big loss and will change the level.of risk thoer naval ships are exposed to.
I dont think.amything is really going well.for them.overall at this point from. a military standpoint .
They lost kyis accomplished little to.nothing.
They lost the initial.advance from.the south as far as offensive and had to fall.back.to.the two cities they took.of melitpol and kherson.
They lost the nikolaev airport which they held briefly.
They lost a cruiser .
They fell back.to regroup which allows the defense to.regroup and fortify.
Instead of keeping thf ukranian military moving under attack.they had to move and reposition thousands of troops .
Their next offensive may be effective,time will.tell.
They also did beat* the fins in the winter war,if one considers that a victory.
They did gain ground.
This may end up similar.
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"The ol' goat clearly hasn't lost his marbles like Biden."
Roosevelt was a cripple
but he kicked Hitler's and Hirahito's asses so hard they were wearing hats
Biden has a speech impediment
but his commands are kicking Pootin's ass and now that "Preparation H" is sanctioned, he's really feelin the pain
if this is a proxy war against NATO
then just look at Russia's losses vrs NATO's
and you think Pootin HASN'T lost his marbles?
out of curioiity, how many marbles do YOU have?
"Then all it will take is forces from Belarus to cut off supply lines in the west"
they don't seem to be in too much of a hurry to do this, despite all the pressure from Russia
This photo is one I took of a Russian Tarantul class corvette pre-war
at the time I was doing research on Radars :)
BTW, do ya know how the Moscva was sunk?
The main Moscva radar, works ONLY in a 180 degree arc
Ukrainians flew an aerial decoy just out of missile range, for the Russians to point their radar at it
then fired their cruise missiles at it from the blind spot
secondary radars won’t pick up sea-skimming cruise missiles
see what happens when your intelligence service is TRYING to help you win
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Alyoshki.I'm not familiar with and don't see it
It's near Kherson.
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Roosevelt was a cripple
but he kicked Hitler's and Hirahito's asses so hard they were wearing hats
I'll take a man with no legs over a man with no brains. The "laptop from hell" resurfaced because regime change is coming to the USA.
Apparently the last oil refinery in Ukraine was destroyed last night. Hard to run a military on no gas. Hey Pat - does France still have a cavalry? Ukraine may need one!
Unconfirmed reports of child soldiers recruited in Ukraine (images/video available but not verifiable). Pitting kids against Spetsnaz? If true the Zelensky regime is truly despicable.
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Ukraine doesn’t recruit those under 18. The irregular forces in the rebel held territories of Donetsk do. They take 15 year olds.
http://tinyurl.com/3af3yztw
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The "laptop from hell" resurfaced because regime change is coming to the USA.
Nope. It’s about the midterm elections. Raising Hunter Biden is like waiving a red cape in front of a bull.
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Apparently the last oil refinery in Ukraine was destroyed last night. Hard to run a military on no gas. Hey Pat - does France still have a cavalry? Ukraine may need one!
Plenty of gas available for Ukrainian Forces to use.
All those abandoned Russian military vehicles everywhere in Ukraine,where your Orc heroes ran,will have plenty of gas for the Ukrainians to use.
Whenever the Ukrainians hear about fresh Orc convoys arriving in Ukraine they say "Oh good..fresh supplies for us ". >:D
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Ukraine doesn’t recruit those under 18. The irregular forces in the rebel held territories of Donetsk do. They take 15 year olds.
Well allegedly they are. And it is appalling if those in Donetsk are doing so.
It's also reported six Georgians and up to 30 Poles have been killed in fighting, and NATO personnel are now prisoners. No mention of nationalities.
Oh, and Boe "your boys" have been very naughty boys in Mariupol, apparently Ukrainian military have bound and executed civilians. ALL militaries commit war crimes and if you think otherwise you have one eye closed.
http://youtu.be/-2qiqpMN6dM
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"The "laptop from hell" resurfaced because regime change is coming to the USA."
Hunter's Laptop = Hillary's Emails
and by resurfaced, I assume you mean "fabricated"
and if that's your basis for regime change, then I feel really sorry for you....
my man,
you don’t seem to understand,
if Russians fill the sky with so many missiles, that it blots out the sun…
then Ukrainians will just fight in the shade
horrosho?
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Well allegedly they are. And it is appalling if those in Donetsk are doing so.
It's also reported six Georgians and up to 30 Poles have been killed in fighting, and NATO personnel are now prisoners. No mention of nationalities.
Oh, and Boe "your boys" have been very naughty boys in Mariupol, apparently Ukrainian military have bound and executed civilians. ALL militaries commit war crimes and if you think otherwise you have one eye closed.
http://youtu.be/-2qiqpMN6dM
You posted that alledegdly a big portion of ukraines army was pinned down in the south.
There is still zero evidence of this at all days later..
You posted That Ukraine was no longer Ukraine, just a couple days ago.
Still seems to be Ukraine.
The follow up you gave was to verify a village across a river from.positions the Russian troops were pushed 100 kilometers back to , was taken back by ,Russia, and an unverified village near Kherson, (which they had also been pushed back to)
So relinquishing 100 kilometers across a 600 kilometer conflict line, then retaking 5 kilometers in a couple of spots ( while losing similar villages on the eastern side )
is noteworthy?
and Ukraine is no longer Ukraine?
There is no surprise poles are fighting there, we all know some Americans and Canadians are also. Alledgedly, they arnt connected to their governments military.
Russia using troops from.ossetia, Syria and Chechnya is not hidden at all right?so
If* Ukraine wins they should immediately attack all three countries(independent republics)? Yes or no?
I don't doubt atrocities towards civilians on both sides in Mariupol.
I also dont need to spin a failed offensive towards kyiv as some strategic master.stroke
Since troops were not positioned to and did not immediately go on a big offensive in the east,that's a pile of malarkey
That being careful about bias comment I agree with and try to think about daily.
Maybe you should as well.
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I'll take a man with no legs over a man with no brains. The "laptop from hell" resurfaced because regime change is coming to the USA.
Apparently the last oil refinery in Ukraine was destroyed last night. Hard to run a military on no gas. Hey Pat - does France still have a cavalry? Ukraine may need one!
Unconfirmed reports of child soldiers recruited in Ukraine (images/video available but not verifiable). Pitting kids against Spetsnaz? If true the Zelensky regime is truly despicable.
From an American on the ground in Ukraine; "Russia has been bribing Ukrainian children, groomed online, to act as spotters for them, convincing them that they won’t get in trouble because they’re children."
Source: http://sofrep.com/news/ukraine-sitrep-for-april-13th/
Your comment about it being "despicable" is true enough, though your attribution for these despicable acts is entirely off-base.
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Well allegedly they are. And it is appalling if those in Donetsk are doing so.
I have seen no reports of such. Care to provide a link from a non Russian source?
No, I didn't think so.
BTW, in Donetsk, young men are dragged off streets to be taken to fight.
It's also reported six Georgians and up to 30 Poles have been killed in fighting, and NATO personnel are now prisoners. No mention of nationalities.
I doubt that "NATO" personnel are prisoners. If foreigners decide to fight for one side or another, that's their choice. I know that there are Canadians fighting in Ukraine. They are private citizens who have chosen to do so. They are not there with government backing.
Oh, and Boe "your boys" have been very naughty boys in Mariupol, apparently Ukrainian military have bound and executed civilians. ALL militaries commit war crimes and if you think otherwise you have one eye closed.
http://youtu.be/-2qiqpMN6dM (http://youtu.be/-2qiqpMN6dM)
They are not "my boys". "My boys" are Canadian.
So civilians were killed by mortar shells. Civilians in war zones are going to be killed. But that's very different from targeting civilians in cars, or shooting them. White armbands are used by Russian soldiers. Again, I would not consider that a targeting of civilians. That's a far cry from shooting civilians with their arms up when they exit vehicles, lining civilians up, torturing them, and shooting them in the head, raping women and children, and killing anyone encountered, or putting children on tanks so Ukrainian forces don't fire on those tanks. That's all been done, the latter, witnessed by my relatives.
If Ukrainian forces are targeting civilians, they should be punished.
Some information on the reporting of "journalist" Patrick Lancaster, who only reports from Russian controlled territories:
http://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/02/28/exploiting-cadavers-and-faked-ieds-experts-debunk-staged-pre-war-provocation-in-the-donbas/ (http://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/02/28/exploiting-cadavers-and-faked-ieds-experts-debunk-staged-pre-war-provocation-in-the-donbas/)
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Ukrainians certainly are not recruiting or using children as soldiers.
In fact, there are far more adult aged men in Ukraine who have volunteered to join, but have been told to wait because there is not enough rifles, etc. to go around at this point.
No shortage of adult fighters in Ukraine.
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Here rwd. Here’s what your people suggest.
http://mobile.twitter.com/lttimmcmillan/status/1515054046847156236?s=21&t=at0kUBDokns5yllMsPPzJQ
Meanwhile, Putin and his propagandists claim there’s no such thing as a Ukrainian.
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I am fairly skeptical of intercepted calls posted online by Ukrainian officials. On more than one occasion, the accents sound Ukrainian, though they could be from Donetsk. However, the parties in this snippet have been positively identified and named.
Now tell me Russia isn’t committing war crimes.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=21&v=-y-H5N3iF_s&feature=emb_logo
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Now tell me Russia isn’t committing war crimes.
ALL militaries commit war crimes and if you think otherwise you have one eye closed.
Did you miss this? Zelensky fan boys are nauseating.
War is hell. BOTH sides are responsible. I want hostilities to end ASAP for the good of the people. This is a war that is likely to either end with a Russian "victory" or nukes. The USA can walk away from Ukraine, Russia won't. Same goes for Taiwan/China. Uncle Sam is happy for others to kill each other while Raytheon, Boeing and others receive a nice pay day.
This is turning into World War 3. Nobody should be cheerleading for greater conflict. I just read Russia has used its long range bombers for the first time (on 14th April). Is the US prepared to step up the firepower to the same degree? It's nuts. A regional disaster is unfolding into a global disaster.
NATO personnel were already working in Ukraine pre-conflict.
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Did you miss this? Zelensky fan boys are nauseating.
War is hell. BOTH sides are responsible. I want hostilities to end ASAP for the good of the people. This is a war that is likely to either end with a Russian "victory" or nukes. The USA can walk away from Ukraine, Russia won't. Same goes for Taiwan/China. Uncle Sam is happy for others to kill each other while Raytheon, Boeing and others receive a nice pay day.
This is turning into World War 3. Nobody should be cheerleading for greater conflict. I just read Russia has used its long range bombers for the first time (on 14th April). Is the US prepared to step up the firepower to the same degree? It's nuts. A regional disaster is unfolding into a global disaster.
NATO personnel were already working in Ukraine pre-conflict.
Nope. Only one side is responsible and their colours aren’t yellow and blue.
For someone who wants the conflict to stop you sure are a cheerleader for the wrong side.
:rolleyes:
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Nope. Only one side is responsible and their colours aren’t yellow and blue.
For someone who wants the conflict to stop you sure are a cheerleader for the wrong side.
:rolleyes:
rwd is trying to hide his support for the orcs, but I have to say it is badly done, so just stop pretending putinlover.
THIS is the Orcs, if anyone still believes this is Putins war, no this is Russia in its essence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y-H5N3iF_s
I have been listening for two almost three hours to two journalists from Ukraine who works with helping collecting and documenting evidence of war crimes in north Kyiv and the famous suburbs, intervju residents and taking pictures.
I feel sick to my stomach now and I don't know if I will be able to get these mental images out of my head for a long time, what we have seen on TV and social media, it's the tip of the iceberg.
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Did you miss this? Zelensky fan boys are nauseating.
War is hell. BOTH sides are responsible. I want hostilities to end ASAP for the good of the people. This is a war that is likely to either end with a Russian "victory" or nukes. The USA can walk away from Ukraine, Russia won't. Same goes for Taiwan/China. Uncle Sam is happy for others to kill each other while Raytheon, Boeing and others receive a nice pay day.
This is turning into World War 3. Nobody should be cheerleading for greater conflict. I just read Russia has used its long range bombers for the first time (on 14th April). Is the US prepared to step up the firepower to the same degree? It's nuts. A regional disaster is unfolding into a global disaster.
NATO personnel were already working in Ukraine pre-conflict.
Both sides are not responsible. Ukraine did not invade Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine. Boeing, Raytheon, etc., would not have received any "pay day" if V. Putin had not decided to invade a sovereign nation. Is this really so difficult to comprehend?
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It would be REALLY stoopid of master strategist Vlad Pootin, to just repeat the strategy of the first failed assault and expect a different outcome this time…
one of the missing elements of this war has been Russian air power
if it were the USA doing this, before a single ground unit moved, there would’ve been a MASSIVE air assault, THEN the ground assault….
there’s no surprise element involved here now, Ukrainians know what’s coming and where
so it’s not like he doesn’t want to “telegraph” his plans
Pootin has hundreds of the OLD TU-95s, that fly above the range of western supplied shoulder-launched missiles and these can carpet bomb Ukrainian positions in front of him
he has the MOAB, Mother Of ALL Bombs, a giant thermobaric bomb that has a 400 meter kill radius
after studying the response of the USA in regards to poison gas in Syria, I’m sure he realizes that if he uses gas in areas where samples can’t be sent to the west, there won’t really be much of a response
personally, I don’t think there are ANY red lines in Ukraine drawn by NATO
they are happy just to sit back and let Ukrainians do the dirty work without risk to themselves
this pretty much gives Pooty Poot carte blanche
he has too much to lose to use restraint
so this time, the gloves come off and it’s gonna be a dirty fight
Indeed Krim, I was really astonished that Pootin didn't hammer Ukrainian forces with Airpower as a first act before the first tank even rolled over the border. I expected him to hit all Ukrainian Airfields, Oil refineries & depots, supply points, and non nuclear power plants and especially any Ukrainian ground troops he could get at least through planes and missiles. Even if it meant losing many planes I expected him to do that just to knock out any Ukrainian air power, even if it meant flying planes into western Ukraine and ditching them due to not having enough fuel to get back if that were the case.
I also expected Pootin to attack all of Ukraine in one go, to attack down towards Lviv to cut off land border supply routes, etc. To attack out off the eastern edge of Moldova even if it meant just stationing poor quality troops there to garrison that region. He missed trying to encircle Odessa and cutting off land routes along the Moldova border, etc.
The whole operation had the hallmarks of being a complete balls up. It looks like master strategist Pootin took control and did a Hitler, didn't listen to sound military advice and decided he knew better, did it his way and fluffed the whole thing up. Had he done it how we thought it would go down I think Ukrainians would have been feeling the pinch a lot more then they have been so they have been lucky that master strategist Pootin decided to take control of strategy in order to satisfy his ego I think.
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Did you miss this? Zelensky fan boys are nauseating.
rwd, are you Ukrainian?
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Note: If I post something here, do not assume that I agree with things in the report.
I posted links so that you can read it in it's entirety and make up your own mind. I
advise reading from several different sources.
Russian state TV declares World War Three has started after sinking of Moskva
"Olga Skabeyeva, one of Vladimir Putin’s leading propagandists, told viewers Western
support for Ukraine amounted to direct conflict with Russia, saying:
‘What it’s escalated into can safely be called World War Three.
That’s entirely for sure."
http://metro.co.uk/2022/04/15/ukraine-russian-state-tv-warns-world-war-three-has-already-begun-16472787/
Maybe they should have thought of this during the Korean and
Vietnam wars?
Russia warns U.S. against further arming Ukraine
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-warns-us-arming-ukraine/
Words mean things unless you are on the far left.
Zelenskiy reportedly asks Biden to name Russia a state sponsor of terrorism
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2022/apr/15/joe-biden-russia-ukraine-putin-us-politics-live-latest
Putin’s Ukraine Gamble Pivots to a Very Different Battlefield
http://dnyuz.com/2022/04/16/putins-ukraine-gamble-pivots-to-a-very-different-battlefield/
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Both sides are not responsible. Ukraine did not invade Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine. Boeing, Raytheon, etc., would not have received any "pay day" if V. Putin had not decided to invade a sovereign nation. Is this really so difficult to comprehend?
Is is really so difficult to comprehend that the Ukrainian government:
- Had official policy to retake Crimea by force;
- Wanted to officially join NATO (and was already de facto NATO given the level of support);
- Stated that it was considering acquiring nuclear weapons and delivery systems; and
- According to the Russian government was planning a major offensive in Donbass.
Let's change the situation while somewhat keeping the context. Iran decides to create official government policy to retake Palestinian territories by force, wants to join a Arab military alliance, develop nuclear weapons with related delivery systems, and had plans to launch an offensive. Do you think Israel would stand by and do nothing?
I am not advocating Russia's actions but can view their perspective. Similarly, I can view the Azov perspective but not be an advocate of their actions. I advocate for de-escalation and negotiated peace, but the Zelensky regime will not negotiate only surrender... at the cost of how many lives?
It amazes me the lack of pragmatism of those in power. I can understand they are out of touch with the plight of the common man but the sheer ignorance of their actions is incredible. If not for Biden the Europeans would take gold, silver and bronze for incompetence.
In other news -
- Another dead American mercenary, a bunch of Georgians as well.
- Another British national taken as a prisoner of war.
- Medvedchuk's wife calling for a prisoner swap of British with her husband.
- CNN reporting American officials are worried about ammo running low in the Ukrainian army (currently no working refineries in Ukraine).
- Mariupol cleared with the exception of the Azovstal plant.
A friendly community announcement, if you resort to school yard name calling I make a note of your username and ignore all of your posts. If you can't have an adult conversation then go outside and play.
Sadly I think we may be past the point of de-escalation. It's either a global Cold War 2 or World War 3 at this point.
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Is is really so difficult to comprehend that the Ukrainian government:
Had official policy to retake Crimea by force;
Did they implement that policy? Were there skirmishes on any part of the border with Crimea? Was it a threat to Russia? ::crickets::
I have relatives who, up until early February, crossed that border frequently. The first time you cross, on either side, is an arduous process, with searches of all bags. After that, it's easy and quick, every time.
Wanted to officially join NATO (and was already de facto NATO given the level of support);
So what? Is Ukraine, as a sovereign nation, not entitled to join whatever military organization it wishes?
NATO, incidentally, is a defensive organization.
Stated that it was considering acquiring nuclear weapons and delivery systems
As well it should, given its neighbourhood. There would be no invasion today if Ukraine hadn't given up its nukes in the past, with guarantees of security, breached by everyone.
According to the Russian government was planning a major offensive in Donbass.
You mean the same Russian government that claims:
1. The Moskva was destroyed in a storm?
2. It hasn't invaded Ukraine?
3. That Ukraine trained migratory birds to carry bioweapons?
4. That they hadn't bombed hospitals, apartment buildings, and other civilian targets?
I could go on.
Let's change the situation while somewhat keeping the context. Iran decides to create official government policy to retake Palestinian territories by force, wants to join a Arab military alliance, develop nuclear weapons with related delivery systems, and had plans to launch an offensive. Do you think Israel would stand by and do nothing?
Iran would never help the Palestinians, who are Sunni Muslims. The additional flaw in your analogy is that Ukraine is an INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN NATION. It, and it alone, gets to decide what happens on Ukrainian territory. Let's turn this around. What if Ukraine, with thousands of US missiles and unlimited military hardware, decided to launch an offensive on Russian soil - bomb Moscow to oblivion, send tanks and troops to the heart of Russia, rape women and children, shoot civilians indiscriminately. Would that be justified?
I am not advocating Russia's actions but can view their perspective. Similarly, I can view the Azov perspective but not be an advocate of their actions. I advocate for de-escalation and negotiated peace, but the Zelensky regime will not negotiate only surrender... at the cost of how many lives?
No, the Ukrainians have said all along they are willing to negotiate a peace. (What their terms are, I don't know, beyond what they disclose publicly.) Russia has openly stated it won't negotiate until "its objectives are met".
The reality is that the so called People's Republic of Donbas is run by thugs who abuse the local population. I personally can live with that, if that population wants to be run by abusive thugs. I can live with Crimea deciding it wishes to join with Russia. It's rewarding an illegal act, but so be it. What I cannot accept is an invasion by a foreign entity which has declared that my ethnicity does not exist, and needs to be wiped from the face of the earth. My grandmother was a Ukrainian long before Putin was born and I will be a member of the Ukrainian diaspora after that dog is dead. He can't change that fact.
It amazes me the lack of pragmatism of those in power. I can understand they are out of touch with the plight of the common man but the sheer ignorance of their actions is incredible. If not for Biden the Europeans would take gold, silver and bronze for incompetence.
The Brits have been outstanding for Ukraine. I agree, with respect to the Germans, French, and Hungarians. The Poles also have been stellar.
In other news -
Another dead American mercenary, a bunch of Georgians as well
Another British national taken as a prisoner of war
Medvedchuk's wife calling for a prisoner swap of British with her husband.
CNN reporting American officials are worried about ammo running low in the Ukrainian army (currently no working refineries in Ukraine).Mariupol cleared with the exception of the Azovstal plant.
An American who volunteers to fight is not a mercenary. Mercenaries are paid to fight.
Medvedchuk's cunt of a wife can shove her "recommendations".
Sadly I think we may be past the point of de-escalation. It's either a global Cold War 2 or World War 3 at this point
Deescalation can only occur with increased Russian losses. They need to feel a lot of pain to come back to the negotiating table. That, or Putin needs to die.
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NATO, incidentally, is a defensive organization.
Gaddafi disagrees.
Iran would never help the Palestinians, who are Sunni Muslims.
The point is Israel won't and doesn't accept serious security risks.
What if Ukraine, with thousands of US missiles, decided to launch an offensive on Russian soil
I don't pick fights with men who are much stronger than me.
No, the Ukrainians have said all along they are willing to negotiate a peace.
Denis Kireyev disagrees. Any potential progress made in Turkey was reverted once the Americans poked their nose in. Blinken has stated the conflict will go on for the rest of the year. The US want a protracted conflict and the Zelensky regime will comply.
The reality is that the so called People's Republic of Donbas is run by thugs who abuse the local population.
I agree.
What I cannot accept is an invasion by a foreign entity who has declared that my ethnicity does not exist.
I don't agree with that either. I find it baffling.
The Brits have been outstanding for Ukraine.
They're hopeless though. The Foreign Secretary made statements leading to the Russian putting their nukes on high alert, the Defence Minister leaked state secrets to prank callers, the Prime Minister is a buffoon, they can't keep supplying arms as they're running out. Rule, Britannia!
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Gaddafi disagrees.
That was a UN resolution they were enforcing.
The point is Israel won't and doesn't accept serious security risks.
Russia was not facing security risks.
I don't pick fights with men who are much stronger than me.
Which is why I noted with unlimited US equipment. You have seemingly justified an invasion, and the rape and murder of civilians, for no fathomable reason. As I posted previously (with a link), you know how many civilians died in Donbas in 2021 (according to their sources)? Seven. You know how many died in Crimea? Zero.
Denis Kireyev disagrees. Any potential progress made in Turkey was reverted once the Americans poked their nose in. Blinken has stated the conflict will go on for the rest of the year. The US want a protracted conflict and the Zelensky regime will comply.
Yet again, not a neutral source, and he's dead now, shot by someone as it is alleged he was a Russian spy. So he can't agree to anything now. You have a strong streak of anti Americanism.
I don't believe the US wants a protracted conflict. I think they would have been happy had there been no invasion, which is why they (quite brilliantly), publicly announced their intelligence information in January and February.
I don't agree with that either. I find it baffling.
Because you don't know Ukrainian history. This is a constant in our narrative. To a Ukrainian who knows his/her history, it's nothing new. That's partly why, I suspect, there is some intransigence in the negotiations.
They're hopeless though. The Foreign Secretary made statements leading to the Russian putting their nukes on high alert, the Defence Minister leaked state secrets to prank callers, the Prime Minister is a buffoon, they can't keep supplying arms as they're running out. Rule, Britannia!
I disagree.
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Ukrainians certainly are not recruiting or using children as soldiers.
In fact, there are far more adult aged men in Ukraine who have volunteered to join, but have been told to wait because there is not enough rifles, etc. to go around at this point.
No shortage of adult fighters in Ukraine.
+1
The boss of the DNR (Strelkov) has publically criticized the President of the Russian Federation for NOT asking for a general mobilization.The problem with the DNR and LNR is that they don't have enough fighters.
Since 2014 people recruited as fighters in the DNR/LNR were called the 25000. They liked to come to get their paycheck but their willingness to fight is very low.
Without the regular or elite Russian forces, they cannot retrieve an inch and I don't talk about all the weapons provided by Moscow.
Additionally, when the Russian Federation is accounting for the losses LNR/DNR is not on the sheet. Moscou doesn't give a shit about their losses and even less about what happens in the DNR/LNR. That's quite curious because they consider these people as "Russian blood". And they are the very primary reason for the wars (2) since 2014, isn't it?
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The ol' goat clearly hasn't lost his marbles like Biden.
Once the Russians take out the Ukrainian forces in the east (~50,000) they will march toward Transnistria and lay siege to Odessa. They'll keep it largely in tact like the Germans did with Leningrad - it is a prize. Complete control the southern front and supply lines.
Then all it will take is forces from Belarus to cut off supply lines in the west and it's goodnight nurse. I've heard Zhytomyr but they may go as far as Lviv. No need to assault Kyiv. If it's true that the Russian troop movements in the Kyiv region were to split/reduce troops in the east then that was a masterly move.
The Russian economy will contract but that will happen globally. Most of Asia, which includes the Middle East will continue to trade with Russia (as will large parts of Africa and Latin America). The world will become divided again. The difference however is that the east have the ongoing economic (and military) power over the west, which was the opposite of the Cold War. Europe's financial state is far more precarious than what most people realize.
Oh and in other news - a British soldier captured, an American one killed by Chechen forces, and allegedly an American General has been captured too (I saw video of FSB agents but the man's face was blurred). Pat - how many Frenchmen are holding out in Mariupol...?
It's impossible to know but surely very view because Mariupol was the most difficult place to go from the very beginning.
NB: Russian Federation moving from Belarus : NO.
1/ They tried they were repelled
2/ Their forces when their attack on Kiev happened came from the very Eastern part of Belarus
3/ Belarus is NOT safe so if you attack from the North of Lviv you are very deep in Belarus and can be cut from your depots very easily. Their supply lines from Russia through Gomel were already a nightmare, so now add 450 km...
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Did they implement that policy? Were there skirmishes on any part of the border with Crimea? Was it a threat to Russia? ::crickets::
I have relatives who, up until early February, crossed that border frequently. The first time you cross, on either side, is an arduous process, with searches of all bags. After that, it's easy and quick, every time.
So what? Is Ukraine, as a sovereign nation, not entitled to join whatever military organization it wishes?
NATO, incidentally, is a defensive organization.
As well it should, given its neighbourhood. There would be no invasion today if Ukraine hadn't given up its nukes in the past, with guarantees of security, breached by everyone.
You mean the same Russian government that claims:
1. The Moskva was destroyed in a storm?
2. It hasn't invaded Ukraine?
3. That Ukraine trained migratory birds to carry bioweapons?
4. That they hadn't bombed hospitals, apartment buildings, and other civilian targets?
I could go on.
Iran would never help the Palestinians, who are Sunni Muslims. The additional flaw in your analogy is that Ukraine is an INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN NATION. It, and it alone, gets to decide what happens on Ukrainian territory. Let's turn this around. What if Ukraine, with thousands of US missiles and unlimited military hardware, decided to launch an offensive on Russian soil - bomb Moscow to oblivion, send tanks and troops to the heart of Russia, rape women and children, shoot civilians indiscriminately. Would that be justified?
No, the Ukrainians have said all along they are willing to negotiate a peace. (What their terms are, I don't know, beyond what they disclose publicly.) Russia has openly stated it won't negotiate until "its objectives are met".
The reality is that the so called People's Republic of Donbas is run by thugs who abuse the local population. I personally can live with that, if that population wants to be run by abusive thugs. I can live with Crimea deciding it wishes to join with Russia. It's rewarding an illegal act, but so be it. What I cannot accept is an invasion by a foreign entity which has declared that my ethnicity does not exist, and needs to be wiped from the face of the earth. My grandmother was a Ukrainian long before Putin was born and I will be a member of the Ukrainian diaspora after that dog is dead. He can't change that fact.
The Brits have been outstanding for Ukraine. I agree, with respect to the Germans, French, and Hungarians. The Poles also have been stellar.
An American who volunteers to fight is not a mercenary. Mercenaries are paid to fight.
Medvedchuk's cunt of a wife can shove her "recommendations".
Deescalation can only occur with increased Russian losses. They need to feel a lot of pain to come back to the negotiating table. That, or Putin needs to die.
You nailed it to a T, Bo.
Yet the same excuses and responses get trotted out time after time, as if repetition will somehow make them true.
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Serving British Special Forces now have boots on the ground in Ukraine...they've been training two Battalions of Ukrainian troops in the Kyiv region these last two weeks.
Ukrainian troops will be coming to Britain this week to learn how to use the Armoured Vehicles we're supplying them with.
This is from the Sunday Times.
In other news the Orcs have managed to get another of their Generals killed in Ukraine.
Major General Vladimir Frolov Deputy Commander of the 8th Army was killed in Mariupol and that makes eight Orc Generals killed in Ukraine....and counting.
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" Moscou doesn't give a shit about their losses and even less about what happens in the DNR/LNR."
does anyone ACTUALLY BELIEVE that KaPootin is killing Russians in order to save Russians?
and not just in DNR/LNR, the majority of the inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine that he's bombing are Russian speakers
and just like in Grozny most of the civilians killed were ethnic Russians
so CLEARLY this is NOT ABOUT SAVING RUSSIAN SPEAKERS
it's about REAL ESTATE
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The Russians have been bombing food distribution centres, supermarkets, and food silos. History repeating itself, with Moscow deciding Ukrainians, living in the breadbasket of Europe, should starve.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10726901/Families-starving-Russian-troops-stopped-Ukrainian-aid-reaching-village.html
rwd, where’s the mirrored Ukrainian action?
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USA is sending 18 155MM Howitzers to Ukraine along with 40,000 artillery rounds.
I read that these have a top range of around 14 miles.
But I also read Russia has artillery with range of 30-40 miles.
So won't the 14 milers be outgunned ??
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Wife read that USA is sending surface water type drones to Ukraine for use in Black Sea. They attack ships and other watercraft.
Speculation was USA wants them tested out in Ukraine as it is felt they will be needed when China attacks Taiwan.
Anyone hear of this ?
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"Anyone hear of this ?"
yes, it's true...
the 155mm howitzers won't be used for artillery duels, more like massed infantry and light armor
Germany is supplying Panzer 2000s which are pure AWESOME!
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USA is sending 18 155MM Howitzers to Ukraine along with 40,000 artillery rounds.
I read that these have a top range of around 14 miles.
But I also read Russia has artillery with range of 30-40 miles.
So won't the 14 milers be outgunned ??
Apples to oranges.
40 miles is a stretch. The 2S7 is Russia's big artillery gun. It has a range of 23 miles. If they use rocket assisted shells, it can hit 30 miles.
The 2S7 is a siege gun, not an infantry gun. It's a good gun if you are shooting at something that never moves (like a fortified city) and you have all the time in the world.
It is mounted on a T-80 tank carriage, the heaviest tank Russia has. It is really heavy, and easily gets stuck in mud. It's also slow. It also has a bulldozer blade mounted on the back of it, so it can dig out a firing position before firing. The recoil is so bad, it has to be dug in before it can fire.
It shoots a 225 pound shell. It can fire 2 rounds per minute. The only problem is, the shells are so large, the 2S7 can only hold 4 rounds. It has to have support trucks hauling the ammo for it. (And we know how good Russian logistics and support vehicles have been doing.) After it fires, you have to unload shells by hand from the trucks, and load them into the 2S7.
It's also really, really f'ing loud. The crew ends up deaf really quick. The crews using it don't want to have to fire it if they don't have to.
The 155 can fire bursts of 4 rounds per minute, but can sustain 40 rounds per hour.
It can be towed behind a truck. You can stop, spread the legs, fire a few rounds, hook it back up to the truck and move a mile down the road, and do it over again.
So yes, if you have a 155 with a 10 mile range, and the other guy has a 203 with a 23 mile range, and if the 203 knows where you are precisely, and if you hold still, the 203 can hit you before you can get in range. But if the 203 doesn't know where you are, or if you are a moving target, or if the 203 doesn't hit you on their first shot or two, then the 203's 23 mile range doesn't do it much good.
Ukraine also has some 2S7 203mm artillery pieces.
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fuhgettabout all them big canons
whatcha want is a laser gun dawg!!
this here is muh water cooled 200 watt diode array laser
I can start fires miles away or damage tank or drone optics
and blind snipers instantly
then put it in my backpack and walk away until next time I use it
laser head - battery pack and voltage converter, water pump and 4 liter resovoir
sweet!
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Interesting article on neofascism in Russia.
http://theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-states-long-history-of-cultivating-homegrown-neo-nazis-178535
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MSNBC Analyst Malcolm Nance now fighting in Ukraine.
He has friends out there and he says he can't just stand by while they die,so he decided to stop talking and go and fight for Ukraine.
There are 20,000 foreigners now fighting for Ukraine ...men and women.
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Do you know if the conscription started to bring fresh regular troops to the Ukrainian troops?You talked about 3 brigades. Do you know more?
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I think that foreign weapons, especially the 155mm artillery is crucial for the starting Russian offensive in the Donbass.
I suppose that the counter-battery fight is essential for the next weeks and hope that Ukrainians could be equipped with very long
range munitions or missiles to strike the Russian artillery.
For me, that's the main problem they will face. It also threats any SAM systems to destruction and lowers the Ukrainian SAM coverage potentially. Look TU22M has shown in Mariupol, so the SAM coverage is crucial.
Due to the losses, the Russian Federation has 40000 soldiers out of action (KIA or wounded or captured), between 700 and 1000 tanks (destroyed, abandoned or captured) they don't have a lot of tanks to deploy but they need them. They can deploy a maximum of 500 operational tanks but this number is probably shrinking even if some reinforcements could be expected from the operational reserve.
Therefore I worry more about Russian artillery in open space in non-prepared position than anything else.
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Do you know if the conscription started to bring fresh regular troops to the Ukrainian troops?You talked about 3 brigades. Do you know more?
All i know is that Ukraine has 44,000 Troops in the Donbas region...and they've been preparing eight years for this.
I'm not sure how battle-hardened the Russian Orcs that have been arriving in Donbas are..we'll see.
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Wife's close relative joined Ukraine Volunteer Military the week that Russia first attacked. He went through a ROTC like program in his undergraduate studies, so was signed in as an officer.
He was in professional medical field, so assigned to a medical unit in Kyiv.
Just now he was moved into Regular Ukraine Military.
Some of his group moving to Donbas, but so far he remains assigned to Kyiv.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroVironment_Switchblade
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America and its allies shouldn’t retaliate in kind, with nuclear weapons. The U.S. should, however, be prepared to take other serious actions quickly. Among the options:
• Clear the Russian navy’s two remaining Slava-class cruisers, their escort ships and submarines from the Mediterranean. This could be accomplished by a diplomatic démarche followed by more-forceful action if necessary to enforce compliance.
• Eliminate Russian air and military assets in Syria and Libya on the same basis. The U.S. and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization have the ability to do so fully within hours if Russia refuses to withdraw its forces to its homeland.
• Entirely dismantle all pipelines used to transport Russian oil and gas to the West, quashing even the hope of future sales to Europe. Military assets could assist civilian engineering companies to accomplish this task with dispatch.
• Advise all non-Western nations, including China, that purchasing Russian oil would result in massive punitive tariffs by the U.S., Japan and the European Union that would effectively decouple their economies from the industrial world.
• End Russian dreams of earning hard currency by servicing Iran’s nuclear industry. The idea that the West would stand by while Iran develops its own tactical nuclear capacity should be dismissed. The U.S., Israel and their Arab allies would be positioned to give the ayatollahs a short window to completely dismantle Iran’s nuclear program under an intrusive inspection regime. If the ayatollahs decline, as they likely would, the key elements of Iran’s nuclear program could be dismantled by the full air power of the regional alliance arrayed against them.
These are only some of the steps that could be taken if Mr. Putin employs nuclear weapons in Ukraine. The urgent priority is to communicate them to the Kremlin now. The same strong and well-messaged deterrence that kept the free world safe from nuclear attack during the long years of the Cold War must be restored to avert a nuclear tragedy in Ukraine. If it isn’t, the risk of Russian miscalculation will rise—as will the even greater risk of nuclear escalation beyond Ukraine.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-deter-nuclear-war-in-ukraine-russia-detonate-pipelines-syria-assets-mediterranean-11650383693?mod=hp_opin_pos_6#cxrecs_s
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They're hopeless though. The Foreign Secretary made statements leading to the Russian putting their nukes on high alert, the Defence Minister leaked state secrets to prank callers, the Prime Minister is a buffoon, they can't keep supplying arms as they're running out. Rule, Britannia!
LOL! Well sometimes the tabloids get it right.
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It doesn’t make ANY sense for Russia to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, against what targets for example? Cities and land they intend to occupy after?
However, it does make sense for them to use chemical weapons, and if they haven’t been used already, then I expect at some point they will be used in “limited controlled” circumstances
the West’s strategy has been to use a “minimax” strategy, which is minimizing the possible loss for a worst case (maximum loss) scenario
Russia has minimal counter-response to Western sanctions and weapons deliveries, we can always offset whatever western property seizures Russia does against the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of frozen state and oligarch accounts, and since we’ve withdrawn from Iraq and Afghanistan, we have no exposure there, unlike before (Russian bounties to Taliban)
it will take Europe up to 10 years to replace Russian gas, but the process HAS ALREADY started, this weakens Russia in the long term, so just let the process continue over time to minimize Europe’s effects of losing Russia’s gas, as opposed to a catastrophic economic crisis to doing it ALL now
our strategy is WINNING, for every dollar we spend on weapons Russia loses at least 10 as a result
and in the long term they will lose the lucrative European oil and gas market as well
meanwhile the Russian state and oligarchs are bleeding money into OUR pockets
even Ukrainian losses work in our favor, by increasing public support for our policies, minus of course Fox News’s Pro-Russian propaganda
so as much as I hate to say it, just for the consideration of USA’s interests, I wouldn’t change very much in our current policy, because it’s WINNING in the sense that we’re hurting Russia FAR MORE than they’re hurting us
and THIS is how you win a fight
"LOL! Well sometimes the tabloids get it right."
they should stick to Elvis sightings and aliens
BTW, Russian nuclear forces were NEVER on hightened alert
and also maintaining nuclear weapons is VERY expensive
what are the odds that Russia's thousands of nuclear weapons WERE properly maintained vrs the odds that someone just took the money and SAID they were maintained
just like the conventional Russian military whose logistics failed so miserably in Ukraine
probably another reason Russia WON'T be using nuclear weapons in Ukraine
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The Russians have been bombing food distribution centres, supermarkets, and food silos. History repeating itself, with Moscow deciding Ukrainians, living in the breadbasket of Europe, should starve.
rwd, where’s the mirrored Ukrainian action?
Ukraine is incapable. The collective West have mirrored such action. I spoke with someone involved with the global food trade on the weekend and their words were "Russians will starve". I was surprised but clearly things will be bad (and will be so across the world).
You seem to conflate your blind hatred with my pragmatism. Noam Chomsky basically echoes my own views (see the start of this interview): http://youtu.be/8Jr0PCU4m7M
As he says there are two ways to end such conflicts: negotiated peace or destruction. Ukraine will be destroyed if there is no mediated settlement. I would like to see a prompt cessation of hostilities, which means the Ukrainian frontmen for Washington will need to cede to Russian demands. But that's not going to happen because the US won't allow it, so an expeditious defeat of the Ukrainian military will save countless lives. A protracted campaign will cause more misery and death. The Russian government will simply starve Ukraine into submission.
In other news:
- The price of oil is about to go through the roof
- It is believe 400 NATO personnel are in the Azovstal metal plant, some have speculated large contingent of French troops, others have claimed a mix of US/Romanian/Canadian troops
- From memory Kherson region is now connected to the Russian cell network; controlled areas are now using Rubles for commerce
- Allegedly the Rozivka Raion has voted unanimously in a town meeting to leave Ukraine and join DNR (in Zaporizhzhia Oblast)
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It doesn’t make ANY sense for Russia to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, against what targets for example? Cities and land they intend to occupy after?
Lviv could become the largest crater on Earth. There are plenty of places in western Ukraine that Russia has no interest to occupy.
Power of Siberia has been operational for a number of years. With the further construction energy supplies will be directed east. Arctic sea lanes are being used more and more. India will continue to buy both hydrocarbons and weapon systems from Russia. Europe is toast! It is a financial basket case and with the collapse of German industry it will return to medieval times. Apparently France is headed for civil war (again). I wouldn't want to be living in Europe without a Plan B.
Hey Pat - I've heard that Russia wants to control everything east of Zhytomyr so it is possible they will launch a campaign to cut off most of the country. If it takes Odessa then it will cripple Ukraine's economy.
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"Lviv could become the largest crater on Earth."
even if Russia could find a WORKING nuclear bomb, and use it to attack Lviv
Russia would still LOSE the war...
because if you're ALREADY BADLY LOSING at poker, then raising the stakes is a REALLY BAD PLAYING strategy when the other players in the game are WAY BETTER than you
for someone who declares themselves to be pro-peace, you seem to be happy at the prospect of sacrificing Ukrainian lives
why do you love Pootin so much, is it because he and Trump are friends and you're a Trump voter
do you also root for Hitler in WWII movies? he DID make the trains run on time, afterall...
PS, Tucker Carlson on Fox New is recommending testicle tanning, ya might want to give it a try to enhance your manliness instead of Dick Tater worshipping and fantasizing about them
"LOL! Well sometimes the tabloids get it right."
you think Elvis is REALLY alive and housewives in middle-America are having alien babies as well?
totally see why ya voted for Trump
I can see that you have ALREADY made the journey into a wondrous land of imagination.
That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone!
(key Twilight Zone theme music)
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Lviv could become the largest crater on Earth. There are plenty of places in western Ukraine that Russia has no interest to occupy.
Power of Siberia has been operational for a number of years. With the further construction energy supplies will be directed east. Arctic sea lanes are being used more and more. India will continue to buy both hydrocarbons and weapon systems from Russia. Europe is toast! It is a financial basket case and with the collapse of German industry it will return to medieval times. Apparently France is headed for civil war (again). I wouldn't want to be living in Europe without a Plan B.
Hey Pat - I've heard that Russia wants to control everything east of Zhytomyr so it is possible they will launch a campaign to cut off most of the country. If it takes Odessa then it will cripple Ukraine's economy.
Hi Rwd.
Zhytomyr, I hope that we speak about the same city.
Because Zhytomyr is 130 km full West of Kiev.
So controlling everything East of Zhytomyr on a North-South axis is seizing more than 60% of the total Ukraine.
Reaching Zhytomir is only possible if you seize Nikolaev, you join Transinistria, cut off Odessa connections with the rest of the country (but it could be supplied by Roumania, this why taking Odessa is so strategical, if not it prevents seizing Transnistria basically).
Good luck taking Odessa with 2000 km of gallery and now the dream to land in front of the city an amphibious assault has vanished with the long range missiles Neptun.
So in my mind this story of Zhytomir makes any sense. May you tell more?
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"Power of Siberia has been operational for a number of years."
I left "Siber" a few months ago after I cancelled my "bizzness" plans there right before the Ukrainian war broke out
Siberia is the world's largest disaster zone
the permafrost is melting, this causes building foundations to sink and collapse, in some areas it looked like this was happening to some degree to almost all buildings
and it gets worse each year
each summer, Siberia has the biggest forest fires in human history (MUCH, MUCH bigger than the ones in USA)
tens of millions of acres burnt, my plane almost crashed because the pilot could't see to land because of all the smoke
swarms of mosquitos that are BEYOND comprehension also due to the melting permfrost
you HAVE to wear bee keeping protection there to go outside or you'll have a million bites, just CRAZY the sky filled with clouds of mosquitos
also more and more every year as well
THIS is Siberia
yeah, they got a lot of oil and gas, but NONE of that money goes to ther people who live there, because your typical Siberian village is just a collection of shacks with no running water or paved roads
I wonder WHO this profit goes to?
you think Europe is in bad shape?
try looking at your own country
almost daily mass shootings, remember the Trump years with riots followed by an insurrection, you remember any of this?
I DO!!!
as the Gospel of Thomas says,
"why reach for a speck of wood in your neighbor's eye, when there is a whole tree stuck in yours"
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I thought this was a pretty good video talking about the economic factors affecting the war. I don't agree with everything, but thought it had some good analysis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEpk_yGjn0E
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After Fukushima, Germany decided to close a bunch of nuclear reactors. The green folks wanted the electricity to replace the nuclear generated electric to be renewables. Ultimately, the bulk of electric generation in Germany has been using gas generators fueled with Russian gas as their nuclear power plants have been shut down.
Instead of Germany trying to find ways of replacing Russian gas, why don't they just start turning their nuclear reactors back on until they can source gas from better partners?
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So in my mind this story of Zhytomir makes any sense. May you tell more?
Someone I know with Russian links shares news (before other sources). He stated in February or early March that Russia is not interested taking west of Zhytomyr.
I suspect if it can severely neuter the Ukrainian military in the east ("Phase 2") then Russia would prefer to cut off all supply lines than storm major cities. I think they've lost hope of a diplomatic resolution, there's barely any dialogue between negotiators now.
In other news, Le Figaro reports that ISIS will stage attacks across Europe. Good thing all those arms are being sent to Ukraine... how many will end up on the black market?
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"I think they've lost hope of a diplomatic resolution,"
"lost hope", crikey mate, that sounds just like you trying to find a girlfriend in the FSU!
"how many will end up on the black market?"
after you account for how many were used to destroy literally thousands of Russian armored vehicals, I don't think there will be any Western arms left over
but the market for Russian scrap metal in Ukraine will be huge, based on its abundant supply...
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Workers pretend to work ,
Soviet pretends to pay
Supply trucks have more flats than tires
See that soviet flag hoisted over kherson?
That's was weird, I'm not sure the significance or statement it was making(since the russian flag had been up)
Weird times
Turkey deciding now to take care of the kurd issue
China looking at Taiwan and just made a deal with Solomon islands
Japan getting frisky about the kirills
Kazakhstan just over some serious internal.strife
Sweden and Finland hugging NATO
Germany sending arms to anyone during conflict
Africa having its normal.unrest
Any standing navy losing something the size of a cruiser.
Taliban telling Puti to chillax
2020 and 2021 said we are the worst recent badasses!
2022 says hold my beer!
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Ukraine is incapable. The collective West have mirrored such action. I spoke with someone involved with the global food trade on the weekend and their words were "Russians will starve". I was surprised but clearly things will be bad (and will be so across the world).
You seem to conflate your blind hatred with my pragmatism. Noam Chomsky basically echoes my own views (see the start of this interview):
If Russians starve, so be it. Invasions of neighbours have consequences, and Russia should have anticipated this in their war planning. Nevertheless, I doubt they will starve. They have enough land to grow food, and will grow the foods they have eaten for centuries.
Ukraine is incapable of what?
I harbour no hatred toward Russia. I don't even hate the former Soviet nomenklatura, who proved they are the greedy pigs with no conscience I always assumed they were (65% of the current Russian political elite are from the Soviet nomenklatura, including virtually all its leadership). Here are the demands from both sides:
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/ukraine-russia-negotiations-whats-possible (http://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/ukraine-russia-negotiations-whats-possible)
Would your country accept a foreign power dictating its constitution, the size of its military, the volume and types of military imports? Even control of all of southern Ukraine, its current position, is a non starter. Would you accept giving up 1/3 of Australia if New Zealand invaded and controlled those regions? Even if Australians living in those regions opposed it? It is not only rewarding invasion, but it is betraying the locals, who by a majority, do not wish to be a part of Russia. Therefore, I reject your assertion that you are approaching this with pragmatism. It's not pragmatic for a country to reward an invader with prime real estate.
I posted early on that letting go of Crimea and the occupied territory, should those regions vote to join Russia, in free and fair, internationally monitored elections.
As he says there are two ways to end such conflicts: negotiated peace or destruction. Ukraine will be destroyed if there is no mediated settlement. I would like to see a prompt cessation of hostilities, which means the Ukrainian frontmen for Washington will need to cede to Russian demands. But that's not going to happen because the US won't allow it, so an expeditious defeat of the Ukrainian military will save countless lives. A protracted campaign will cause more misery and death. The Russian government will simply starve Ukraine into submission.
You are assuming that Russia will win. They may win in the short term. But as I have posted, they have sown so much hatred in Ukraine, that they cannot control the country in the long term. Look at what's occurred in seven years in the breakaway regions. That is the future.
As for Putin, собака собаці смерть.
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After Fukushima, Germany decided to close a bunch of nuclear reactors. The green folks wanted the electricity to replace the nuclear generated electric to be renewables. Ultimately, the bulk of electric generation in Germany has been using gas generators fueled with Russian gas as their nuclear power plants have been shut down.
Instead of Germany trying to find ways of replacing Russian gas, why don't they just start turning their nuclear reactors back on until they can source gas from better partners?
And coil !!!Very green!They bite their hands to have stopped nuclear plants now.
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"Power of Siberia has been operational for a number of years."
I left "Siber" a few months ago after I cancelled my "bizzness" plans there right before the Ukrainian war broke out
Siberia is the world's largest disaster zone
the permafrost is melting, this causes building foundations to sink and collapse, in some areas it looked like this was happening to some degree to almost all buildings
and it gets worse each year
each summer, Siberia has the biggest forest fires in human history (MUCH, MUCH bigger than the ones in USA)
tens of millions of acres burnt, my plane almost crashed because the pilot could't see to land because of all the smoke
swarms of mosquitos that are BEYOND comprehension also due to the melting permfrost
you HAVE to wear bee keeping protection there to go outside or you'll have a million bites, just CRAZY the sky filled with clouds of mosquitos
also more and more every year as well
THIS is Siberia
yeah, they got a lot of oil and gas, but NONE of that money goes to ther people who live there, because your typical Siberian village is just a collection of shacks with no running water or paved roads
I wonder WHO this profit goes to?
you think Europe is in bad shape?
try looking at your own country
almost daily mass shootings, remember the Trump years with riots followed by an insurrection, you remember any of this?
I DO!!!
as the Gospel of Thomas says,
"why reach for a speck of wood in your neighbor's eye, when there is a whole tree stuck in yours"
Siberia is a huge region, covering 3/4 of Russia, and it's not all permafrost. But the regions that are, indeed cannot really cope with global warming. The same thing is happening in Canada's north. Same mosquitos, too. However, Deep Woods Off works.
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Regarding Europe’s energy policy
Always “follow the money”
for a list of North Stream “Partners” see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream
Here in the great state of Texas, the oil and gas industry controls the state’s dominant political party by showering it with political “donations”
here is just one example:
http://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/04/texas-energy-industry-donations-legislature/
it’s quid-pro-quo, politicians get the money, and in return, enact laws that favor the industry over all other interests
it’s not a bug, but a feature of capitalism
privatize the gains, and shove the costs onto someone else “lower down”
as Lenin said, “capitalists will hang themselves, and we’ll sell them the rope”
speaking of "capitalists hanging themselves"
word's come down through the grapevine of two Gazprom executives who recently “committed suicide”
Vladislav Avayev, along with his wife and daughter
and
Alexander Tyulakov
this is why my daughters and I are "babysitting" two young Russian men, so they don't "commit suicide"
eventually, they will show up here in the USA once I get their visas
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as Lenin said, “capitalists will hang themselves, and we’ll sell them the rope”
You better check a bit further on this.
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can you prove that he DIDN'T say it?
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Wife read that USA is sending surface water type drones to Ukraine for use in Black Sea. They attack ships and other watercraft.
Speculation was USA wants them tested out in Ukraine as it is felt they will be needed when China attacks Taiwan.
Anyone hear of this ?
In the most recent aid package approved several weeks ago, there are two (2) items being supplied to Ukraine before use by US troops. They are the 'Switchblade' drone and to your specific question, unmanned coastal defense systems.
The unmanned coastal defense vessels may be for surveillance―seeing where Russian ships are located so anti-ship missiles that Ukraine already possesses can target them―or could be turned into maritime kamikaze drones. This new capability could drive the Russian navy away from Ukraine's shores, hampering Russia's resupply of ground forces and relieving the western parts of Ukraine from the threat of an amphibious attack.
Because these new technologies are not widely available to the U.S. forces, this represents, in effect, a combat experiment. Ukrainians will learn how to use the new systems and pass that knowledge back to the U.S. military. (Source: http://www.csis.org/analysis/latest-aid-package-ukraine-major-escalation-support)
Any reference to their potential use in Taiwan is speculative, though easy to see how some may deduce that.
That same article addresses provision of howitzers as well as APC's, and addresses the changing considerations this new aid package represents.
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Switchblade drones are also collecting real-word video data from the Ukrainian battle field to be used in the next generation “fire-and forget” autonomous versions that use “AI” to find targets, since the quality of the AI depends a lot on the training data, this data from Ukraine is really valuable compared to training on simulated targets
spossiba bolshoi Russ-see-ya wouldn’t wanna be-ya!
Postscript
Krimster’s Russian Travel Advisory
Los Americanos and other English speaking persons should avoid travel to Russia
This is because Russians have been brain-washed into a xenophobic blood lust and it just might get pointed in your direction, and I don’t think residents of “unfriendly” countries can expect ANY legal protection in Russia, therefor, I’d avoid Russia, cuz it’ll be open season on you for any random gang of street hooligans, and after you’re beaten to a pulp, YOU will be charged for ethnic/political incitement as a provocateur
this is based on my recent phone calls to starry druzya in Rostov
holy crap did I get an earful about Ukrainian Nazis, etc and these were people who were anti-putin a few years ago
so I can imagine the potential for getting your jhoppa kicked by drunk gopnicks is gonna be REALLY high
rwd123, NOW is the time for you to go to Russia me cobber!!
don’t worry they won’t hurt ya
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In the most recent aid package approved several weeks ago, there are two (2) items being supplied to Ukraine before use by US troops. They are the 'Switchblade' drone and to your specific question, unmanned coastal defense systems.
Big thanks for that info.
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Switchblade drones are also collecting real-word video data from the Ukrainian battle field to be used in the next generation “fire-and forget” autonomous versions that use “AI” to find targets, since the quality of the AI depends a lot on the training data, this data from Ukraine is really valuable compared to training on simulated targets
spossiba bolshoi Russ-see-ya wouldn’t wanna be-ya!
A Cyberdyne Systems T-800, what could go wrong?
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"A Cyberdyne Systems T-800, what could go wrong? "
John Conner is a tran-sexual and because he's denied his choice of restrooms, he turns into a social recluse and doesn't fight the bots, so they win...
the script practically writes itself
Heinlein had the idea almost 60 years ago, that ultra-realistic video games were actually made from real recorded battles, and that militaries recruited their top performers from the gamers
to go live and control real battles
I can see this happening in the near future
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More info on sunk ship:
http://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/04/20/a-lot-of-people-were-injured-many-lost-their-limbs
“My son told me that the cruiser had been hit from land, from the Ukrainian side. A fire wouldn’t just start for no reason. People were killed, some were injured, some went missing. My son called me when he got hold of a phone. Their documents and [personal] phones were left on the cruiser. He called me crying because of what he had seen. It was scary. Clearly, not everyone survived. They tried to put out the fire by themselves, after three Neptune missiles had hit the cruiser (Ukraine claims two missiles had struck the warship — editor’s note). As a mother, I don’t even know what to say. I’m just glad that my son has called me, that he is alive and well.
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Interesting read.
http://www.newsweek.com/im-former-us-marine-training-ukrainians-russians-worse-isis-1699415
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Keep in mind, Putin has just awarded the butchers of Bucha. That’s the contempt with which this animal views Ukrainians.
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Switchblade drones are also collecting real-word video data from the Ukrainian battle field to be used in the next generation “fire-and forget” autonomous versions that use “AI” to find targets, since the quality of the AI depends a lot on the training data, this data from Ukraine is really valuable compared to training on simulated targets
spossiba bolshoi Russ-see-ya wouldn’t wanna be-ya!
Postscript
Krimster’s Russian Travel Advisory
Los Americanos and other English speaking persons should avoid travel to Russia
This is because Russians have been brain-washed into a xenophobic blood lust and it just might get pointed in your direction, and I don’t think residents of “unfriendly” countries can expect ANY legal protection in Russia, therefor, I’d avoid Russia, cuz it’ll be open season on you for any random gang of street hooligans, and after you’re beaten to a pulp, YOU will be charged for ethnic/political incitement as a provocateur
this is based on my recent phone calls to starry druzya in Rostov
holy crap did I get an earful about Ukrainian Nazis, etc and these were people who were anti-putin a few years ago
so I can imagine the potential for getting your jhoppa kicked by drunk gopnicks is gonna be REALLY high
rwd123, NOW is the time for you to go to Russia me cobber!!
don’t worry they won’t hurt ya
+5
I would even say for any westerners. Especially Americans, English, Baltians, Polish, German, and even French.
That's not the time to go to Russia. For safety reasons.
Krim is right, you will have no legal protection, therefore you can be the target of everyone, anytime.
Additionally, Police could stop you and take your phone to monitor it, and guess what, you have written some comments
THAT THEY THINK TO BE NOT IN FAVOR OF RUSSIA to a friend and suddenly guess what, some drug is discovered in your luggage or in your flat.
And you are sent to jail for years. You can kiss the ass of your attorney a thousand times you'll loose your time.
It works like this in authoritarian countries.
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Bo,
Putin has contempt for everyone...including his own people.
I remember his reaction when he was being interviewed by a British journalist on TV and when asked what happened to the Submarine that caught fire in 2019,killing 14 of it's crew,he smirked as he replied "it sank ".
He has no regard for human life..except his own..this is what makes the slimy creature so dangerous.
He really doesn't care how many Russian or any other countries people's lives are lost to achieve his own personal objectives.
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Ukrainian pro-Russian blogger Valery Kuleshov ,whom many believed would be part of a new puppet Government in the Oblast ,has been assassinated by insurgents outside his home in Russian errrr controlled Kherson.
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I think Russia realizes that the limited “special military operation” is not capable of breaking Ukraine
so their choices are:
1. continue anyway, hoping to wear out Ukraine and Western backers after years of fighting (Syrian civil war has been going on for over 10 years, for example)
2. use WMDs, chemical agents are more likely than nuclear
3. full military mobilization, by raising 1-2 million soldiers, but this will take time
4. use their aging antique Tu-95 bombers for massive area bombardment of military and civilian forces, like the allies did against Germany in WWII, Russia has about 500 of these aircraft, and a LOT of retired crews who could be reactivated, likely not to be concerned if any of these 60 year old planes and crews are lost
May 4, is when they default on foreign loans, and of course Victory Day a few days after that
I suspect around this time is when they’ll declare their future strategy
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The Dmitrievsky Chemical Plant near Moscow is on fire & beyond saving.
It’s one of Russia’s largest manufacturers of chemical solvents.
The Aerospace Defence Research Institute in Tver burned down earlier in the day. The “Iskander" and "S-400" missile systems were designed here.
We are starting to notice a pattern. :devil:
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The Dmitrievsky Chemical Plant near Moscow is on fire & beyond saving.
It’s one of Russia’s largest manufacturers of chemical solvents.
The Aerospace Defence Research Institute in Tver burned down earlier in the day. The “Iskander" and "S-400" missile systems were designed here.
We are starting to notice a pattern. :devil:
I suppose something like this happens on a regular basis in Russia, just like in USA and other countries.
But let's hope it's actually due to some covert action which will increase.
In any event, it will give Putin more reason to punish the Ukrainian Nazis.
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there were pro-Russian "auto ralleys" in Berlin, someone set fire to a row of cars there a few days ago
resistance is NOT futile
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Ukrainian pro-Russian blogger Valery Kuleshov ,whom many believed would be part of a new puppet Government in the Oblast ,has been assassinated by insurgents outside his home in Russian errrr controlled Kherson.
That's interesting.
The locals there have been quite restless the entire time it what was proported to be a pro russian city.
I saw local.territorial defense folks had put up signs in kherson a day of two ago basically saying:
All russian occupiers and supporters of russian occupation.
Leave immediately, we are here and we are near ,death awaits you, kherson is Ukraine!
No Z allowed
They had a Z with the international.red circle and slash across it .
Obviously the warning went unheaded.
And yeah while I understand what you mean CB, I wouldn't say insurgents.
I'd say the remaining local defenders of kherson.
Beo- I'm curious your take in something.
You have suggested a international audited vote in donbass regions.
I can understand that.
However , the usa electoral system (imperfect as it is) has a built in counter balance to a simple majority win by population centers,as it's the only reasonable way for the rural.areas ,which are the largest territory ,to have a voice.
Obviously donetsk,lughansk would lilely be largely pro russian and have the numbers to carry the oblasts.
However it's seems apparent the villages and smaller cities are pro Ukraine have been under Ukraine control most of this disputed time and welcome that.as they were treated particular poorly by the dpr thugs.
I guess like goergoa they could be relocated and likely many have .
I never see the media on.either side of this cover the common man's point of view. .
Its generally shown only from. nationalistic outspoken and highly involved individuals.
Granted the conflict will bring that out in both groups
But how would the average person ,in say slovyansk feel?
From what I've seen in more random.interaction vids(not interviews) they feel Ukraine is Ukraine ,and no love lost for the independent republic leadership.
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can you prove that he DIDN'T say it?
I think MLs point was the quote is more attributed to saying the captilist would fight over the contract of who sold the rope to their would be hangers
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I suppose something like this happens on a regular basis in Russia, just like in USA and other countries.
But let's hope it's actually due to some covert action which will increase.
In any event, it will give Putin more reason to punish the Ukrainian Nazis.
I think the pattern of accidents shows it isn't random.
I also more than think that the west* has fingers in every country 🤔 used or contributing* by influence to such oppsies.
There are far more alphabet agencies than people are generally aware,and negotiations in the back room, and unspoken but known concerns during those
Russia has as well in the west, so I wouldn't discount retaliation in kind over the course of this.
No black helicopters or tin foil hats here, that is just reality of the types of destructive assets every world power has..
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The Dmitrievsky Chemical Plant near Moscow is on fire & beyond saving.
It’s one of Russia’s largest manufacturers of chemical solvents.
The Aerospace Defence Research Institute in Tver burned down earlier in the day. The “Iskander" and "S-400" missile systems were designed here.
We are starting to notice a pattern. >:D
Looks like someone has been reading my post 1707 on this very thread,which i posted seven days ago >:D
Seems they couldn't wait as i suggested though,but of course they know the situation on the ground better than i do.
If Mad Vlad thought him and his Orcs could do what they like in Ukraine with impunity,without huge repercussions for him and his country, then he's an even bigger idiot than i already thought he was.
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I think Russia realizes that the limited “special military operation” is not capable of breaking Ukraine
so their choices are:
1. continue anyway, hoping to wear out Ukraine and Western backers after years of fighting (Syrian civil war has been going on for over 10 years, for example)
2. use WMDs, chemical agents are more likely than nuclear
3. full military mobilization, by raising 1-2 million soldiers, but this will take time
4. use their aging antique Tu-95 bombers for massive area bombardment of military and civilian forces, like the allies did against Germany in WWII, Russia has about 500 of these aircraft, and a LOT of retired crews who could be reactivated, likely not to be concerned if any of these 60 year old planes and crews are lost
May 4, is when they default on foreign loans, and of course Victory Day a few days after that
I suspect around this time is when they’ll declare their future strategy
Regarding point 2,following the UK saying last week that if WMD are used by the Orcs in Ukraine then nothing is off the table regarding our response,well today the Cech Prime Minister said today on TV that NATO boots WILL be on the ground in Ukraine if indeed the Orcs use WMD against Ukraine.
We'd see how Putler's Army of child and women rapists and civilian executioners would fare then....i suspect the vast majority of them would surrender or flee.
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Russians never travel in a straight line
they won’t just come out and use chemical weapons directly
totally NOT their style
it’ll be to use them surreptitiously, while blaming Hunter Biden’s secret Chinese funded nerve gas lab for supplying them
I can’t speak for Europe, but the USA’s strategy is to minimize damage to itself from this conflict, and within that strategy maximizing the damage it does to Russia, this means the USA won’t be taking ANY military risks
Europe has it seems a similar strategy, otherwise it’d cut off Russian gas use use completely and stop handing the Russians a billion dollars per day, but they can’t do that without hurting themselves
yes, European capitalists WILL hang themselves with the rope in the form of a Russian pipeline
Pootin will use the atmosphere of Victory Day to pronounce what is next in his great vision of world domination, because whatever it is will involve “sacrifice” from the downtrodden Russian people
I’m not sure what the West can do in response, due to their aversion to risk
a complete embargo of Russian gas, and universal sanctions on all things Russian, down to and including even part-time samichki sellers doesn’t seem to be “on the table” nor does sending the US Navy into the Black Sea for humanitarian assistance and covert supply runs…
it also doesn’t seem likely that Pootin will plan on continuing the current form of the war for the next decade or so, hoping to wear out Ukraine and the West…
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Russian oligarchs who died by “suicide” since January
Sergey Protosenya + wife and daughters
Vladislav Avaev + wife and daughter
Vasily Melnikov + wife and sons
Mikhail Watford (Tolstosheya )
Alexander Tyulyakov
Leonid Shulman
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Russian oligarchs who died by “suicide” since January
Sergey Protosenya + wife and daughters
Vladislav Avaev + wife and daughter
Vasily Melnikov + wife and sons
Mikhail Watford (Tolstosheya )
Alexander Tyulyakov
Leonid Shulman
What happened to the previous standard method of death from 'falling out of windows?'
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different hitmen
they each have their own methods
kinda like a signature
and that's all I really wanna say about that
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The Dmitrievsky Chemical Plant near Moscow is on fire & beyond saving.
It’s one of Russia’s largest manufacturers of chemical solvents.
The Aerospace Defence Research Institute in Tver burned down earlier in the day. The “Iskander" and "S-400" missile systems were designed here.
We are starting to notice a pattern. >:D
Large fire at Oil Depot in Russia's Bryansk this morning.
First fire was at a civilian facility with about 10k tons of fuel,with a second fire 10-15 minutes later at a military depot with 5k tons of fuel.
The pattern continues >:D
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Beo- I'm curious your take in something.
You have suggested a international audited vote in donbass regions.
I can understand that.
However , the usa electoral system (imperfect as it is) has a built in counter balance to a simple majority win by population centers,as it's the only reasonable way for the rural.areas ,which are the largest territory ,to have a voice.
Obviously donetsk,lughansk would lilely be largely pro russian and have the numbers to carry the oblasts.
However it's seems apparent the villages and smaller cities are pro Ukraine have been under Ukraine control most of this disputed time and welcome that.as they were treated particular poorly by the dpr thugs.
I guess like goergoa they could be relocated and likely many have .
I never see the media on.either side of this cover the common man's point of view. .
Its generally shown only from. nationalistic outspoken and highly involved individuals.
Granted the conflict will bring that out in both groups
But how would the average person ,in say slovyansk feel?
From what I've seen in more random.interaction vids(not interviews) they feel Ukraine is Ukraine ,and no love lost for the independent republic leadership.
I don't agree that the regions would, because of the cities, vote to join Russia. I think the vote would split along ethnic lines, and in both regions, Ukrainians are a majority. Donetsk is the only city with a majority Russian population, and Luhansk is almost evenly split.
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I thought this was an interesting read, by a Russian-
http://carnegiemoscow.org/2022/04/19/putin-s-war-has-moved-russia-from-authoritarianism-to-hybrid-totalitarianism-pub-86921
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Russian Airbase on fire yesterday at Ussuriysk,Vladivostok.
The pattern continues >:D
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http://carnegiemoscow.org/2022/04/19/putin-s-war-has-moved-russia-from-authoritarianism-to-hybrid-totalitarianism-pub-86921"
I welcome the new insect overlords in Russia. I'd like to remind them that I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.
In the future there are no political parties in the USA, you just have to declare which space billionaire you support
Alexander Hamilton, wrote the following:
"The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.
Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”
Hamilton used to print money, by smearing ink on his face, and pressing it against a small piece of green paper, with the number 10 printed on it
a tradition that continues to this day
meanwhile,
The richest guy on the 2021 Forbes 400 owns the Washington Post. Number 2 now owns Twitter. Number 3 owns Facebook. Numbers 5 and 6 started Google. Numbers 4 and 9 started Microsoft. Number 10 owns Bloomberg. Why is the press controlled by billionaires?
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Speaking at a joint press conference with Russia’s foreign ministry, Sergei Lavrov, the UN secretary general, António Guterres, said a “violent battle” is under way across Ukraine’s Donbas region with “tremendous death and destruction”.
Guterres said:
We recognise that we face a crisis in Mariupol. Thousands of civilians are in dire need of live-saving humanitarian assistance, and many of evacuation.
The United Nations is ready to fully mobilise its human and logistical resources to help save lives in Mariupol.
He said his proposal was for a coordinated work of the UN, the International Committee of the Red Cross, and Ukrainian and Russian forces to enable “the safe evacuation of the civilians who want to leave” the Azovstal steel plant and Mariupol city “in any direction they choose”.
Guardian live feed
April 26 (Reuters) - United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres told Russia's foreign minister on Tuesday that he was ready to fully mobilise the organisation's resources to save lives and evacuate people from the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupol.
http://www.reuters.com/world/un-is-ready-save-lives-mariupol-un-chief-tells-russia-2022-04-26/
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What would have been interesting would’ve been a Dunkirk type of evacuation of Mariupol.
Hundreds of small boats from around the world crewed by volunteers
Russia couldn’t have stopped them all
the US Navy could’ve been leveraged if they had tried to
Once upon a time the US Navy wasn’t afraid to blockade Cuba over Russian plans of world domination
and the US Navy itself evacuated Russian civilians from southern Ukraine at the last stage of the Bolshevik revolution (Google USS Whipple)
one day in the future the Chinese will take over all of the USA without a shot being fired because it'd be too risky
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The richest guy on the 2021 Forbes 400 owns the Washington Post. Number 2 now owns Twitter. Number 3 owns Facebook. Numbers 5 and 6 started Google. Numbers 4 and 9 started Microsoft. Number 10 owns Bloomberg. Why is the press controlled by billionaires?
Because they can.
I would do it also, if I had the money.
Communication and influencing (controlling) public opinion is the most powerful tool available to achieve goals.
Just look at the success Putin has had with the Russian people who are completely brainwashed by him.
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I think this is a good discussion -
http://youtu.be/x9_7z8iaoT0
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Sanctions will have more effect on Russia’s economy than higher energy prices will have on the West’s economy, it’s still another “war of attrition” between the two sides, with the west somewhat ahead on this metric, and it might give an added push for the West to move away from fossil fuels
the KGB had insiders who gained knowledge and profit for themselves by being secret “sanctions busters” for the soviet government, this will happen all over again with the FSB’s sanction busters
Russia’s trade with China will grow and Russia will be highly dependent on China, this puts China in a MUCH better position to control Russia’s economy
Russians have 200 billion USD in crypto, their weak points are the crypto exchanges
when they want to trade crypto for cash, USA COULD make a better crypto tracker to block Russians, but haven’t yet
overall, western sanctions are still pretty weak, and more needs to be made on the country and on individual oligarchs
the west could shutdown North Stream One or South Stream as well as already blocking North Stream 2, this would force Russia to pipe more gas through Ukraine (see chart of Ukrainian gas flows)
West could encourage Russians to emigrate, though Russians will likely block Russians leaving altogether, instead of just restricting like now
Russia will likely try and create more tension in the middle east, hoping a war breaks out and Iran will restrict the flow of oil to further raise energy prices, which is the West’s Achilles heel
the West needs to move AWAY from fossil fuels in general at “warp speed” meanwhile substitute LNG for Russian gas
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Russian Airbase on fire yesterday at Ussuriysk,Vladivostok.
The pattern continues >:D
oh no, more?
Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov: Ammunition depot is on fire near the village of Staraya Nelidovka, Belgorod Region.
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This woman, originally from Russia and living in Stockholm, took time from her day to destroy Ukrainian symbols in front of the Russian embassy. A Ukrainian woman started filming her destruction, so the Russian attacked the Ukrainian. The Ukrainian started recording, posted the recording on her Facebook, the clip went viral, and the Russian has now lost her job at a Swedish school.
A cautionary tale to recognize the power of social media.
http://youtu.be/RxqVE80fWZ4
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My son phoned me yesterday,and we were discussing why the Russian people in general have such a deep-seated hatred/distrust of the west,which makes the idea of their neighbours Ukraine getting closer to the west so abhorrent to them.
He said Russia has been invaded by the west through Napoleon and Hitler,so he reckons it stems from there.
That doesn't excuse the raping and killing of innocents done by Russian troops in both Germany and now Ukraine though.
It also doesn't explain why so many Russians prefer to live in the west if we're so bad.
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There’s always been a tension in Russian history between “Westernizers” and “Slavophiles”. There are reams of books and academic articles on
this very subject.
Here’s one on the most recent take-
http://ecfr.eu/article/commentary_how_russia_has_come_to_loathe_the_west311346/?amp
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oh no, more?
Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov: Ammunition depot is on fire near the village of Staraya Nelidovka, Belgorod Region.
Explosions heard in the cities of Kursk and in Oboyan where locals there said they heard military planes flying overhead.
In Voronezh region reports that Russian air defences in action to fend off an attack on Baltimore military air base. >:D
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yo dawg, Rosneft, run by longtime Putin ally Igor Sechin, invited bids for 38 million barrels of oil this week. No one was buying. RU doesn’t have space to store oil, so lack of demand causes producers to stop production. sad...
wussup with all the explosions in Transnistria?
does this mean they'll cancel production of Rocky Horror Picture Show II there?
so no more "sweet transexual from Transnistria? sad...
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It is past time for Putin's KGB buddy and tobacco mafioso Vladimir Mikhailovich Gundyayev to be included in the sanctions.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/22/human-rights-activists-call-for-indictment-of-russian-patriarch-kirill-a77461
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'yo homies
Economic Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni told Italian daily Il Messaggero that the EU aims to cut dependence on RU oil and gas 2/3 by the end 2022, and end Russian imports completely by 2027.
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I think this is a good discussion -
http://youtu.be/x9_7z8iaoT0
Thanks for posting this reference.
Some of the presenters were very good with their analysis.
Interesting that one guy stated that Russia already knows that $300 billion in impounded funds is lost to them.
I keep thinking of one caution: That was the situation where extreme reparations required from Germany at end of WWI lead to the wild inflation in Germany and the rise of Hitler.
When will the vast majority of Russians look back and say . . . OMG what did we do to destroy our own country economically. They can't just lay the blame on Putin.
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it also doesn’t seem likely that Pootin will plan on continuing the current form of the war for the next decade or so, hoping to wear out Ukraine and the West…
At the moment Pootin doesn't seem to be making much progress in the Donbas despite reassigning more of his forces there. Instead he is apparently launching missile strikes in central & west Ukraine on strategic sites.
I think you are right Krim that at this rate it will take a long time for the Russians to make any progress using conventional military intervention. They have been doing that and their efforts have stalled and they are bogged down going nowhere. There's no quick or even short to medium term win on the horizon for Pootin of he continues to use conventional military methods. I'm still not sure if he can get a win unless using chemical or other methods on a large scale though. I can see that if he can achieve breakthroughs bit by bit he may be able to gradually push matters his way. At the moment though I don't think there is any sign of chemical weapon use on any scale to make any real difference on the ground, I not so sure if we will see that. O wonder if Pootin is stuck in a situation that he has got himself into and doesn't no the way out that he is just hoping it will start to turn good for him.
There's a lot of people who have suffered horribly because of Pootin's decision to invade and yet he can't even show any real achievement on the ground. If he had made a quick effective strike then at least it would have been all over quickly but now both Ukraine & Russia seem to be stuck in a horrible elongated situation that neither can easily get out off. For me I had hoped that this situation would have been sorted one way or another quickly and with the least misery heaped on people possible. I myself was hoping to be in Ukraine this Spring/Summer in a matter of weeks or so. Unless it gets resolved soon it's really likely to mess with my plans. Kyiv & Odesa are of free from Russian threat but with missiles flying in the sky I can't very well go travelling there.
My slim hope is that the Russian Donbas offensive runs out of steam in a few weeks and at that point Russia gets more reasonable in negotiations, but I can't really see what deal could be done, none looks to be the answer. Ukraine wants back the Donbas & Crimea and Russia wants at least those areas and if it can more. I can't see Pootin giving up those areas nor Ukraine conceding them, particularly the Donbas.
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There were heavy losses for the Ukrainian troops in the Donbas yesterday,and Russian troops are making regular if slow progress using a pincer movement ,so the war may be starting to turn in Russia's favour unfortunately.
The promised Howitzers from the west are crucial if Ukraine is to turn the war in their favour.
The USA,Canada and France are all sending 155 mm Howitzers,which will outgun the 152mm Howitzers the Russians have...with a longer range to strike from,so they can smash the artillery Russia is using to shell the cities and Ukrainian troops.
The huge problem is getting them from Poland to the Donbas,without being hit by air strikes in the open Steppes of east Ukraine during transportation.
Russian has been destroying the connecting train lines for a reason.
They also need to be behind an effective air defence system when being used ,if and when they get there,so air-strikes can't hit them.
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As predicted...
Russia commenced "Phase 2" with the primary objective of complete control of the east and a secondary objective of taking the Black Sea coast. Unsurprising the news in Transnistria. NATO are getting involved surrepticiously in Transnistria, just like with the attack on the Moskva - which was closer to Romania (de jure NATO) than Ukraine (de facto NATO) when hit. Russia may need to recognize Transnistria as they did with LNR and DNR and perform a "special operation" or step up their "peacekeeping" else NATO may move in.
Also as predicted Russia wants to cut off supply lines from the west so have hit key rail infrastructure. Also as predicted Ukrainian forces suffering massive human casualties (and POWs). Their attacks on Russian soil serve little strategic benefit so will have minimal impact in the course of the war.
I should have bought stock in Raytheon, Boeing and the other war profiteers... I should have kept a watch on Pelosi's investments...
In other news -
- One dead British mercenary confirmed, another missing
- Many other foreign mercenaries are perishing or captured
- Get your popcorn ready for when the Azovstal plant is "cleared", Putin ain't negotiating on that one! LOL @ Zelensky who wants Azov and NATO guys free to go to Turkey.
- Gazprom racking up record profits while Europe's economy is in a tailspin.
- European countries one by one accepting gas for rubles.
- Indonesia bans exports of palm oil... which Europe was using to cover the short fall of oil from Ukraine. The Europeans are ideological idiots!
- No surprise in France with Macron, nothing will really change there. Riots if not civil war is coming to France. That's not me talking but their former head of intelligence!
- Chinese lockdowns are a major concern. It's moronic and destructive but the CCP don't like losing face! Global implications but largely overlooked.
- The world is moving closer to nuclear conflict. This is far more serious than the Cuban missile crisis.
Sadly things are likely to escalate rather than de-escalate.
Trench - Russia is hitting ALL of Ukraine. There's no way you'll visit in the Summer unless Ukraine surrenders... not gonna happen on Biden's watch... or his son's laptop! Unless you're creating TikTok videos with Zelensky then Ukraine is a no go zone.
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“as predicted”?????
you think a couple of rockets will stop or even slow the weapons transfer to Ukraine?
If they need to
Ukraine will tow them with tractors
packs of children and geezers will grab ropes and pull them
the only thing that Russia has that will stop these weapons are the tanks and aircraft
that are destroyed when Ukrainians shoot these weapons at them
that and only that stops them
yeah, our economy is taking a hit, Russia is gonna take a bigger one
the men in my family fought in WWII against fascism, those at home lived with rationing
we have it easy compared to then and 1000X easier than the innocents in Ukraine
who’ve done nothing to justify what Russia is doing to them
most of us support Ukraine and are OK with whatever sacrifices it takes to defeat fascism
both in WWII and now
of course, there’s gonna be the little “Lord Haw Haws” but they’ll get theirs in the end, just like he did
what a sad pathetic little man you are to cheer on the massive slaughter of innocent people in what can only be described as an act of genocide
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it might give an added push for the West to move away from fossil fuels
Yes, we can use Unicorn farts, fairy dust, perpetual motion machines et al
or we can go all nuclear all the time.
(http://images.saatchiart.com/saatchi/792140/art/2729181/1799074-SZTEWLLH-6.jpg)
I am working on my own invention (see below) to capture hot air from people
shorter than I am.
(http://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/d5/40/bfd5402d066eb510c293dce57b90172f.jpg)
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The future is small modular nuclear reactors (SMR) that use a “breed and burn” fuel cycle that eliminates 99% of nuclear waste by converting it into energy
http://www.terrapower.com/ their first one is being built in Wyoming
an SMR reactor is about 5% of the cost of the big old fashioned ones we have now
90% of it is mass-produced in a factory
site preparation is minimal, and can be completely underground
operating cost is minimal
electric vehicles are the future, our grandchildren will never see a V-8 engine except in a museum
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There were heavy losses for the Ukrainian troops in the Donbas yesterday,and Russian troops are making regular if slow progress using a pincer movement ,so the war may be starting to turn in Russia's favour unfortunately.
The promised Howitzers from the west are crucial if Ukraine is to turn the war in their favour.
The USA,Canada and France are all sending 155 mm Howitzers,which will outgun the 152mm Howitzers the Russians have...with a longer range to strike from,so they can smash the artillery Russia is using to shell the cities and Ukrainian troops.
The huge problem is getting them from Poland to the Donbas,without being hit by air strikes in the open Steppes of east Ukraine during transportation.
Russian has been destroying the connecting train lines for a reason.
They also need to be behind an effective air defence system when being used ,if and when they get there,so air-strikes can't hit them.
That's interesting info CB, not sure where you're getting your info from regards to heavy losses of Ukrainian forces in Donbas yesterday. Most of the stuff on everyday news channels seems to be pointing to somewhat of a stalemate situation. I personally think it would be best for Ukrainians that one side wins out soon as otherwise they're left caught up in between it all and suffering in a conflict going nowhere. I saw too that we've apparently lost a Rambo the other day so you're likely right that Ukraine forces now might be taking a heavy hit.
If Russia take territory permanently then it looks like it will end up as Russian territory. In Kherson it looks like there is going to be a fake referendum for a 'People's Republic' like in Donbas while use of the Russian Rouble will replace the Ukrainian Ghrivna there.
I hope this conflict doesn't last years not just for the Ukrainian people but also it will throw my hopes of getting a woman out there out the door. Even losing this year to it all would be a pia.
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“as predicted”?????
most of us support Ukraine and are OK with whatever sacrifices it takes to defeat fascism
both in WWII and now
of course, there’s gonna be the little “Lord Haw Haws” but they’ll get theirs in the end, just like he did
what a sad pathetic little man you are to cheer on the massive slaughter of innocent people in what can only be described as an act of genocide
Spot on.
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I don't agree that the regions would, because of the cities, vote to join Russia. I think the vote would split along ethnic lines, and in both regions, Ukrainians are a majority. Donetsk is the only city with a majority Russian population, and Luhansk is almost evenly split.
I worded ot poorly,
It was intended only as example. And as a question to how you felt the local population was spilt.
I agree completely, as from what I can tell even after a large exodus the last 8.years the general.region was pro Ukraine overall,with more specific pockets of pro Russians within it.
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Rwd123
When has Transnistria NOT had russian troops present?
Their existence was acquired by russian troops defeating moldovian troops.
The bulk of the regions economy is merely funds poured in by Russia annually.
There has always been a russian battalion stationed there permanently.
Ukrainian territorial defense blew key bridges day 2 of this conflict to slow any russian troops that wanted to join in on this from there.
There are roughly.8 battalions there currently , pray tell why havnt they been used?
The entire reason for Russia to support the region is the logistical and strategic location.
Yet its remained unused.
If Moldova gets froggy to take it back as it is sfterall stoll Moldova, not Russia ?
Maybe they see signs nato will.help in supplies ,training?
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There were heavy losses for the Ukrainian troops in the Donbas yesterday,and Russian troops are making regular if slow progress using a pincer movement ,so the war may be starting to turn in Russia's favour unfortunately.
The promised Howitzers from the west are crucial if Ukraine is to turn the war in their favour.
The USA,Canada and France are all sending 155 mm Howitzers,which will outgun the 152mm Howitzers the Russians have...with a longer range to strike from,so they can smash the artillery Russia is using to shell the cities and Ukrainian troops.
The huge problem is getting them from Poland to the Donbas,without being hit by air strikes in the open Steppes of east Ukraine during transportation.
Russian has been destroying the connecting train lines for a reason.
They also need to be behind an effective air defence system when being used ,if and when they get there,so air-strikes can't hit them.
That's correct. The turning point would be when the pincer, the encirclement will be completed.
But for the moment we are far from this.
Losses are rising among Ukrainian soldiers and that's normal in an open space.
The Russian Federation has lost its strategic initiative and the level of attrition is narrowing day by day in its tactical initiative.
I suppose they want to trade the Ukrainian territory they have seized for political gains.
Regarding artillery, technically the Russian Federation has other artillery systems with great range striking.
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Pootin has just played his last hand before he switches to the next stage of escalation
this play is to put General Gerasimov, in charge of the advance at Izium
This would be like the French putting DeGaulle in charge
if this leads to failure, like ALL previous attempts, then Pootin is gonna escalate
either with a major mobilization and/or WMDs
Biden has countered with 33 billion aid package to be voted on by congress soon
The Republican Russian caucus (those close to Trump) is going crazy over this, echoing Russian propaganda talking points
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Another huge fire in Russia.
The Gres-2 Power Station in Sakhalin is in flames.
This of course is the region where Russia has been forcibly taking Ukrainians to filtration camps.
Coincidence ?
I think not.
The pattern continues >:D
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Disastrous day for Russia's military in Ukraine yesterday..huge losses reported in the east.
Reports that Ukraine has managed to get the first Units of 155mm precision targeting Howitzers out there ..with devastating consequences for the Orcs armour...sounds like carnage. >:D
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Russians tell me "something big" is going to happen, but they don't know what...
Russian "elitny" are panic buying...
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The Russians are getting quite bold in their thieving. In addition to household appliances, they have been looting paintings and other cultural artifacts from museums, and even the grain from farmers bins. Imagine just driving your truck over and loading up whatever you want and taking it home to resell. This is not all the Russian army (although they steal plenty) but ordinary Russians showing up to take whatever the military hasn't destroyed or taken already.
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I read (but don't remember the details) that some 'oblast' (or some such) in Russia passed law (resolution) that they are entitled to go take grain from Kherson region.
Echo's from Holodomor !!
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barefoot Russians on balalaikas, all singing
gimme s'more of that ole fashioned holodomor
if it's good enuff for moy dadooska, it's good enuff fer me
yeeee-haaaaa!
update: Russians say Kapootin is gonna drop the "special military operation" and declare war on Ukraine and go for total military mobilization
i'm guessing aroud Victory day
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http://youtu.be/YV4tLpuy7Rk
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barefoot Russians on balalaikas, all singing
gimme s'more of that ole fashioned holodomor
if it's good enuff for moy dadooska, it's good enuff fer me
yeeee-haaaaa!
update: Russians say Kapootin is gonna drop the "special military operation" and declare war on Ukraine and go for total military mobilization
i'm guessing aroud Victory day
18 Year olds and up were being called up from yesterday in St Petersburg.
More cannon fodder for Putlers vanity.
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will NATO also have to mobilize?
how could they deal with 1-2 million Russian soldiers on their borders without a full mobilization in response?
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“the signs” are there to indicate that Pootin is about to declare war on Ukraine!
The first step of this will be to declare a full military mobilization to eventually saturate Ukraine with Russian canon fodder, this will take some time to ramp up...
however, a war declaration will go well beyond just this
I would expect travel restrictions both internal and external
more internet/communication restrictions
maybe martial law internally
shifting resources from the civilian economy to the military leading to shortages
the million or so Ukrainians who live in Russia, may become subject to some form of “special treatment”
I don’t know what action he will take against “unfriendly countries” but I’d expect that to ramp up as well
we don’t have WWIII yet, but we’re gonna be close enough to see it without binoculars
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http://youtu.be/OR_E8dvyaOI
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“the signs” are there to indicate that Pootin is about to declare war on Ukraine!
The first step of this will be to declare a full military mobilization to eventually saturate Ukraine with Russian canon fodder, this will take some time to ramp up...
however, a war declaration will go well beyond just this
I would expect travel restrictions both internal and external
more internet/communication restrictions
maybe martial law internally
shifting resources from the civilian economy to the military leading to shortages
the million or so Ukrainians who live in Russia, may become subject to some form of “special treatment”
I don’t know what action he will take against “unfriendly countries” but I’d expect that to ramp up as well
we don’t have WWIII yet, but we’re gonna be close enough to see it without binoculars
By voting a martial law he can send the conscripts to the front, which will save his problem momentarily,120000 additional soldiers will therefore be available. If I were Poutine I will do it.
And martial law could be used internally to better control the Russian Federation from the inside.
Very easy.
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Yet another Russian Orc General killed in Ukraine yesterday apparently.
Major General Andrei Simonov 2nd Combined Arms Army was reportedly killed by Artillery fire in a command post near Izyum...along with around 100 Orcs.
Over 30 Military vehicles also destroyed.
The strike has been shown on the main tv news networks BBC and CNN this morning.
In other news some of you may have seen a pro-Russian Chechen Commander being killed whilst making a video post on social media.
For those that haven't ,he was filming himself ,with his fellow Orcs walking alongside him,talking about having a good day with just one of his mob wounded,when 16 seconds in they were actually blown up on film.
Seems they were geolocated by his social media post on film and then hit by precision 155mm Howitzer fire...whilst other speculation is that he stepped on a mine.
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"By voting a martial law he can send the conscripts to the front, which will save his problem momentarily,120000 additional soldiers will therefore be available. If I were Poutine I will do it.
And martial law could be used internally to better control the Russian Federation from the inside.
Very easy."
if Pootin is going to escalate because of a miscalculation about Ukraine, what happens if his escalation also becomes a miscalculation?
Pootin seems like an abvious example of the "Peter Principle"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle
"The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence: employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another."
in all the books on game theory I've read, they ALL say that commiting to a course of "maximum risk" is ALWAYS a bad strategy for winning, this is one of the fundamentals of the field
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Putin's chief of staff Valery Gerasimov is 'wounded by shrapnel after being sent to Ukraine by Russian president to secure victory
I mentioned him a couple of days ago
This guy was Putin’s last hope, looks like he was tracked by US spy agencies and his position given to Ukrainian artillery
he was one of three people in Russia to have the nuclear codes
it looks like he was hit on almost his first day in Ukraine
I’m guessing that Putin will declare war on Ukraine sometime around Victory day, since Gerasimov was his “hail Mary” pass
so the dial on the war is gonna get turned up to maximum by summertime
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Do you believe he was merely injured, or that he’s dead?
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Do you believe he was merely injured, or that he’s dead?
One report has him climbing unassisted up steps to airplane to leave Belgorod.
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unclear what his status is, it was his first day in Ukraine!!!
I never believe anything related to Russians until it is denied by the Kremlin
so I'll wait until a kremlin spokesperson says he's resting somewhere on vacation
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Vladimir Putin's top military commander has been flown out of the war zone with shrapnel wounds after being to sent to Ukraine by the Russian president to secure victory, a former Russian internal affairs minister has claimed.
Valery Gerasimov, the chief of staff of the Russian army, was today wounded in Izyum in Ukraine's Kharviv region, which has been at the centre of intense fighting since Russia's invasion….
An unofficial Russian source reported that Gerasimov sustained 'a shrapnel wound in the upper third of the right leg without a bone fracture.
'The shard was removed - there is no danger to life,' he said.
But Gerasimov's injury was severe enough to have him flown away from the frontlines and back to Russia to undergo further treatment, marking another embarrassing defeat for Putin's forces.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10772727/Putins-military-commander-Valery-Gerasimov-wounded-forced-evacuate-war-zone.htm
http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ukraine-says-russia-army-top-general-wounded-in-command-post-strike-dozens-killed.html
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http://babel.ua/en/news/78221-the-security-service-of-ukraine-neutralized-the-russian-reconnaissance-and-sabotage-group-which-was-preparing-to-shoot-down-a-passenger-plane
This is scary.
And same fsb guy who stirred the pot in Odessa years back.
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In other war rumors, russian troops near Kherson shot some of the Kadyrovsty.
Allegedly tired of them not joining in the fighting, and acting as a backing group to shoot retreating Russians, as well.as the chechens taking the spoils from the russians that.were looted from abandoned homes .
A Canadian soft unit went.into kherson, to do *something*
and returned to mikolaev via bicycle and civilian clothes undetected.
(This is the group Wali is attached to).
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Do you believe he was merely injured, or that he’s dead?
Seems only injured.
He is a sharp cookie, I can't imagine a scenario where any superpower puts that valuable of an asset,
in Izyum,
50 clicks or less from some of the heaviest conventional fighting the.world has seen in decades.
And tontop.it off stupidly announce they are sending him.to.Ukraine.
It's likely not accidental belograd defense areas were hit when he was in route either.
Not one other country would do this, ever.
My grandfather had Parkinsons.
He lived a long time afflicted with it.
There were days he was ok and cognitive abilities of his youth.
Other days he was completely insane and hallucinations etc.
It was very difficult time for us.
His gate was exactly like this:
(Where rumors of putin having the diesease)
I know it's an old rumor,but the depression, paranoia,and hallucinations fit his decisions as well
http://youtu.be/Xg3HgN11nG0
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russians don't like them chechens, they's laughin at how Chechens react to salo in Ukraine
I actually liked salo with a little bit of black pepper on it
ate it all the time when I lived in Crimea and fresh Caviar we bought from the 5th kilometr market, which doesn't exist anymore
it's salty so you put it on top of some freshly churned and chilled butter on a slice of kleb
washed down with a Baltica Chiteery Piva
the good ole days, sigh...
I don't know what's wrong with Pooty Poot
I'm still thinkin it's drugs though
I frequented an elitny klinika in Moscow that was an anteka for some pretty hardccore narcotika
a lot of Moscow's finest could be seen there, and some were totally fooked-up
I was in a pilot study of serotinin enhancers for people on the spectrum, and was given cognitive tests before and after (math and word problem solving)
and after that I bought a BUNCH of Russian mental performance enhancers (nootrpics) from them that are totally unavialable in the west, and they "kick ass"
back in the day, codeine was legal in Crimea, I had a cocktail of 90 mg codeine phosphate and couple of bowls of local Tungusta Thunderfook
I was so freakin high it was amazing
if I were Pootin, I'd be totally wasted, except in public
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I'm no fan of salo or holedetz,
But I love borscht and especially green borscht lol and most Slavic dishes.
Caviar on buttered bread is of course tasty.
Baltica is ok, I'm not much on beer ,and prefer wheat beer.
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Krimster,
Is it true they fenced off that entire promenade area in yalta beaches, so now it's no longer public and only private for the new hotel guests?
I saw a semi recent (last year?) vid there of a reporters walking.around, and everything seemed much different ,uglier and well deserted.
Amd this was prior to this year's invasion
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As far as chechens,
This young man is well spoken, deserves respect and seems to have been very close to have been used as a false flag.
http://youtu.be/lEOZhJo_0Oo
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I dunno about Yalta, but Sevastopol beaches at one point had this problem because of this wacko politician (Vladimir Konstantinov) who accused locals of stealing the beach sand so for awhile he closed off the beaches to public access
Russians gotta dump a lot of sour cream in the middle of their bowl of borscht
after smelling raw beets, I was skepical of borscht, but cooking takes the bad smell out
in the summer you can buy beer from the beer wagon, but ya gotta bring your own container
local alchogolicki show up with dirty old fruit jars fished outta garbage bins and fill em up at the wagon, gulp it down, take a wiz 'round the corner and go back for a refill
have to be careful where ya walk cuz of that, but you can easily find the wiz spots by smell and avoid that area
I learned some useful skills there
good times
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"By voting a martial law he can send the conscripts to the front, which will save his problem momentarily,120000 additional soldiers will therefore be available. If I were Poutine I will do it.
And martial law could be used internally to better control the Russian Federation from the inside.
Very easy."
if Pootin is going to escalate because of a miscalculation about Ukraine, what happens if his escalation also becomes a miscalculation?
Pootin seems like an abvious example of the "Peter Principle"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle)
"The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence: employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another."
in all the books on game theory I've read, they ALL say that commiting to a course of "maximum risk" is ALWAYS a bad strategy for winning, this is one of the fundamentals of the field
I do agree with you
In the market shares, the policy is the same: you don't hold your position while the market is down, you have sold them before it plunges too low.
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this means Poutaine is NOT a "rational player"
more impulsive than thoughtful
"whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad"
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A munitions factory is on fire in Perm, Russian Federation.
It produces the Grad and Smerch rockets. What an accident. :-\
:rolleyes: :devil:
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a "suspicious" fire happening every day
will lead to an internal "crackdown" once martial law is in place after war is declared
travel will be restricted, guards everywhere
this will incur its own cost to Russia and at best will only temporarily slow the Pyros*
the most successful criminals are the ones who seemingly don't break the law, but instead, create the law
today, Russians are too crude in their methods to understand this
but, once upon a time, they could grasp this idea
the Pereiaslav Agreement, is what made Ukraine Russia's suka in the first place
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pereiaslav_Agreement
Pootin's first attempt at a modern version of this failed, "The Eurasian Economic Union", and led to Maidan, so he moved on to more violent methods, which also seem to be failing
Pootin is like a comedian telling jokes that no one laughs at, because he gets the timing all wrong
he needs to be "more funny"
and needs better joke writers, that's all I'm saying
someone whose jokes relate to the people and not just oligarchs
*disclaimer
when I was 12, I was an amateur pyro
my technique was a pack of matches and a cigarette purchasd from a vending machine for 35 cents for a pack!
light the cigarette, and place it under the matches
it burns down, lights the matches, and if placed on flammable material will start a fire
I can't remeber how long this took, but it was several minutes, I did "test runs" to establish the time delay
no one notices a kid, I was never caught or even suspected
stopped doing it when I got laid for the first time
so I guess pyromania is sexual in some way
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I will first say that I have not seen a confirmation from anyone else official or photo/video proof.. so it could be just propaganda, but from the evidence I HAVE seen of brutal shit the orc's done in Kyiv surroundings regarding other things, I do believe this is true too.
So here is what the rdw's pals are doing in Ukraine
Inna Sovsun @InnaSovsun
@InnaSovsun
Member of #Ukraine🇺🇦 Parliament, Deputy Head of @GolosZmin party,
First Deputy Minister of Education and Science (2014-2016)
Another horrible story from the #Kyiv region.
#russians killed a woman. Then they tied her live child to her corpse... and put a bomb between them.
When rescue workers tried to save the child, the mine detonated.
The story was confirmed by 🇺🇦Minister of Defense
#RussiaWarCrimes
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Meanwhile, this is how humans behave (aka Ukrainian people and not soviet Orc's)
A cat was found in Borodianka near Kyiv on the 7th floor of a destroyed house🥺The rescue operation was carried out by ZooPatrol🇺🇦 and they even had to engage special equipment. This is because we are humans and occupiers are not. Photo: Eugene Kibets
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A munitions factory is on fire in Perm, Russian Federation.
It produces the Grad and Smerch rockets. What an accident. :-\
:rolleyes: >:D
Now they are no doubt that there is some internal sabotage. :P
The question that everyone has in mind is: Russian citizens or spies? 8)
I think that among foreign Ukrainian legions, Western countries delivering tons of weapons, Moscka cruiser, this one is infuriating the President
of the Russian Federation the most now. :deadhorse:
It's like the list of problems is upsizing every day :P
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Now they are no doubt that there is some internal sabotage. :P
The question that everyone has in mind is: Russian citizens or spies? 8)
I think that among foreign Ukrainian legions, Western countries delivering tons of weapons, Moscka cruiser, this one is infuriating the President
of the Russian Federation the most now. :deadhorse:
It's like the list of problems is upsizing every day :P
The imbecilic Putler and his RADA have brought war and an economic meltdown within Russia.
How much of failures does that make them ?
They couldn't be more incompetent if they tried.
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I thought this was an interesting read, by a Russian-
http://carnegiemoscow.org/2022/04/19/putin-s-war-has-moved-russia-from-authoritarianism-to-hybrid-totalitarianism-pub-86921
Agree, a good read.
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There is a large fire at the warehouse of the Pro-Kremlin "Prosveshchenie" publishing house near #Moscow. Almost 34 thousand square meters are burning.
Around midnight a hangar in #Bogorodskoe district, where printed materials were stored, burst into flames.
Curiously, this is the publishing house that banned the word "Ukraine" from world history
:devilish:
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Agree, a good read.
Welcome Back!!
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The Orcs are currently storming the Azovstal Plant in Mariupol in a desperate attempt to give Putler a victory he craves for Victory Day on May 9th.
Before the assault Orc aircraft,Naval Artillery and Barrel Artillery bombed the plant for several hours in a row overnight,which killed two civilian women,and injured about ten other civilians.
Armoured Vehicles,Tanks,a large number of Infantry ,and attempts to land by Boats in the desperation to take the Plant.
This is coming from a live broadcast by the Deputy Commander of the Azov Regiment.
So much for the lying Putler saying he wouldn't want to waste more of his troops lives by storming the Plant.
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All the “hep cats” intelligentsia in Russia are into a thing called “TRIZ”
http://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newCT_92.htm
which is a MUCH better general theory of problem solving than Aristotle's, "take a big problem and reduce it to multiple little problems and solve sequentially"
I had to teach myself the principles of TRIZ from Russian books I bought and I translated them myself by scanning/OCR/ and using an online translator
when I look at the problems of the war from a TRIZ perspective, the war makes a LOT more sense than just standard logic which would say Pootin is losing the war
From a TRIZ perspective, this war is a solution to reducing the non-Russian population within the current borders and proposed new borders of Russia, a kind of Russification, and this is not purely a military conflict, as long as there are large numbers of casualties in non ethnic Russian groups, then Russia is “winning”
this is being done by primarily using Russian ethnic minorities from provinces as canon fodder to “cancel Ukrainians” the result is that they are canceling each other and improving the “whiteness” of Russia by increasing Russian’s percentage of population within “greater Russia”
this works, because few of the canon fodder are coming from the european “white” part of Russia
now it all makes sense!
expand borders
reduce minorities
win-win
so the "West" in order to prevent geographic expansion of Russia is aiding Russia in its plan to reduce minorities
no wigger protection for Russia like in China...
wussup with my wigger homeboyz?
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The problem with that theory is that,as i posted previously,young men in St Petersburg started getting called up last week..via texts.
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we shall see...
if there is some truth to this idea
then what I'd expect from Russia for the future is "human wave" type of assaults with massive amounts of untrained ethnic minorities to try and break the stalemate
from a military perspective it would be ridiculous to do this
but to reduce minorities, makes total sense
mobile crematoria, genuis, no need to transport ethnically dirty people to be cleansed in camps
tell the soldiers that "fighting makes you free"
if Nazis had done this with Jews, they would have had the equivalent of the Israeli army on their side in the war and still killed large numbers of Jews
dumpkopfs!
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because few of the canon fodder are coming from the european “white” part of Russia
1. I would like to see some verifiable evidence of this.
2. I understand that Russia (initially) using men from outside the major Russian cities so that reports of deaths do not spread in large cities.
3. However, Russia is killing large numbers of ethnic Russians all over Ukraine, but particularly in Donbass; so canceling is of ethnic Russians in Donbass against non-ethnic Russians from Russia.
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google is your friendly source of all obscura informatze
try looking for Russian casualty list by province, etc
The Truth is Out There, it's just really far away from here
I'm too tired at the moment to provide this service cuz my wife's got me doing "honey do's"
and a man cannot serve two masters :)
OTOH, future actions will tell you if there is some truth to this or not
so you could just wait and see what the next stage of the war brings
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1. I would like to see some verifiable evidence of this.
2. I understand that Russia (initially) using men from outside the major Russian cities so that reports of deaths do not spread in large cities.
3. However, Russia is killing large numbers of ethnic Russians all over Ukraine, but particularly in Donbass; so canceling is of ethnic Russians in Donbass against non-ethnic Russians from Russia.
Cant verify anything.that dramatic.
Several accounts 9f chechens used as backing troops to shoot retreating Russians though.
Also one province in Siberia has a small.population.
Those yound men (by their words) were promised flats if they signed a contract.
About 600 have bern killed.
The region they are from.only has
about 6500 people .
Ouch.
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try this for starters
http://twitter.com/search?q=russian%20casualty%20list&src=typed_query
a big part of TRIZ is to identify sources of contradiction, solutions are about solving contradictions
I learned a LOT about the evolution of the Soviet Philosophy of problem solving
1. linear algebra for resource optimization
2. tsetlin automata for optimization through feedback from reward/penalty
2. TRIZ Theory of Problem solving
Soviets/Russians are on another planet compared to the west, far more advanced
it's why Pootin's gambit with Trump worked so damn well
it was a TRIZ play
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I suppose that everyone remember what I wrote if you go to Russia and some drug is found on you:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10778779/US-State-Department-declares-WNBA-star-Brittney-Griner-wrongfully-detained-Russia.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10778779/US-State-Department-declares-WNBA-star-Brittney-Griner-wrongfully-detained-Russia.html)
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If you’re going to vape hash oil, delta 8, etc in Russia and you want to bring your stash with you
you DO NOT want to get a “510 cartridge” vape pen rig,
no, your vape cartridges show up on x-ray and are easy to identify
what you want to do is get a reservoir based vape unit like an iCub 2, and take the mouth piece off
and keep your distillate in a little cosmetic jar and put a couple drops of lemon oil in it and place the jar in separate luggage with other cosmetic items
Russians won’t even bother to look at it!
I’ve smuggled all kinds of stuff into and out of Russia, I’m addicted to the adrenaline rush I get when I do this, and THEN I go vape, what an incredible feeling combining the two!!
good times!
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CNN were interviewing a Ukrainian Military Commander in the Donbas today,and he said they're STILL awaiting the arrival of the western heavy Artillery.
The reporter showed film of reinforcements for the Donbas troops arriving by road,but nope no heavy Artillery to be seen.
Meanwhile the Azovstal plant in Mariupol is being pounded from the land.sea and air again today.
Hundreds of civilians still trapped in there..including thirty children...and contact with the plant was lost today.
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The reporter showed film of reinforcements for the Donbas troops arriving by road,but nope no heavy Artillery to be seen.
Two months ago, our friends took 5 long days to get from Donbas to Poland by car. I suspect it takes longer today, especially having to try and move big equipment in ways to keep them from getting targeted, among civilians on the same roads/trains.
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http://youtu.be/RdlWG_pfsHo
The monitoring group of the Belarusian Hajun Project (http://t.me/Hajun_BY) collected information on all known missile launches from the territory of Belarus, which began at 6:20 on February 24, 2022.
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so now the grapevine says Pootin IS NOT going to declare full mobilization on Victory Day....
more of that "riddle wrapped inside an enigma" meme
if Pootin doesn't mobilize, then he's just gonna continue the war indefinitely like in Donbas, etc since 2014 and Syria...
no long march to Odesa, not yet
land bridge to Crimea + reopen Northern Crimea Canal + damaging economy of Ukraine and West = "Victory"
added bonus of purging non Russian minorities
and putting new "iron curtain" around Russia to keep Russians in, and keep west out
a much smaller win then Pootin hoped for, but still a win
economy will convert to rubles, seizing state and oligarch foreign assets, so what?
so this is a small short term victory, with the prospect of a continuing long term war
that may at some time in the future give the opportunity to incrementally seize more and more of Ukraine
this is a REAL sign in Russia!
this can only mean
That it is the dawning of the age of Prosveshchenie
age of Prosveshchenie
Prosvesh-chenie
or just some Dumb Ass from Donbas
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Rumours are swirling in Moscow that former Generals and KGB officials are preparing to oust Putler to end the war in Ukraine,which is increasingly seen across Russia as a strategic mistake and an economic disaster.
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Ukraine has successfully taken significant and strategic territory back in Kharkiv ,made gains in SW and NW Kherson and successfully intercepted the Orcs supplies on the western flank of the Izyum advance.
Valeriy Zaluzhny,Chief Of Ukraine's Armed Forces has now announced that Ukrainian Troops have now switched to launching counter offensives near Kharkiv and the Orc occupied city of Izyum.
We know what happened when they did that in the Kyiv region..let's hope the same result happens.
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Rumours are swirling in Moscow that former Generals and KGB officials are preparing to oust Putler to end the war in Ukraine,which is increasingly seen across Russia as a strategic mistake and an economic disaster.
I am skeptical of that. How do they plan on explaining the ouster of an elected president? Certainly there was fraud in the election, but no matter how you view it, Putin was elected by a majority of Russians.
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Victory Day Pogrom, er I mean Program
Parade of Ukrainian Prisoners
and fake Ukrainian Nazi banners thrown to the ground and trampled
followed by nearby mysterious explosions and fires
Salo Ukrainia
after V-Den, Russians will have Stalinesque show trials of Ukrainian POWs in Russian courts
they will be accused of war crimes in Ukraine
Art Dept of Moscow State will create stylish Nazi flags and other kinds of "evidence", etc
another reeason to have the war, is to keep the chechens in Ukraine instead of up to mischief in Dagestan, etc
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Former MP Alexander Nevzorov. Some of this is just an understanding of history. Some is an understanding of how the Russian state works (or doesn't).
http://youtu.be/OutvYSl_TLc
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Endless war, means the transformation of Russia back to a closed society like in Soviet period
possibly a class struggle against oligarch’s and the state seizing their assets like the West is also doing!
And a recreation of the soviet union, at least internally in Russia
it seems like they shoulda done this first, then “liberated Ukraine”
duh!
Bo, thanks for Nevzorov's video, that's about the funniest, most sarcastic video I've ever seen, I love it!
gozpedy!
and I was almost gonna give up and go work for Putin, until I saw the video
you saved me...
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Bo, thanks for Nevzorov's video, that's about the funniest, most sarcastic video I've ever seen, I love it!
gozpedy!
and I was almost gonna give up and go work for Putin, until I saw the video
you saved me...
I'm always here for your eternal soul. :)
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"'i'm always here for your eternal soul. :)"
I already knew that about you, this just confirms my perception!!!
Russia is afraid to fight Odesa!!!
Gozpedy!
because in order to “save the village”
they’d have to “destroy the village”
and destroying such an historic “Russian/Soviet” iconic city as Odesa
would be oichen plohoi!
This would create one of “them contradictions”
where the government’s words and actions don’t match
and them contradictions would become apparent to the public
Odesa would be leveled, because resistance from Krimster’s Ancestral Rodina
would be 100X the Warsaw uprising
if they start doing to southern Ukraine what they did to Bucha, well fook it
I’ll work 12 hour shifts anywhere they can use me in Odesa putting IEDs together
and if I get killed there, well my name will join with the others, and one day my grandchildren will come there and read it
I know how to drive from southern Ukraine from Moldova, I drove it once with my father-in-law round-trip
and could do it again by myself as long as I had a clear path
full tank of gas at the border, and petal to the metal baby!
no stops, pee in the bottle, just one long,fast drive!
what's the point of dying of old age
compared to fighting for Odesa
it's like what Tolstoy said about the siege of Sevastopol
It is impossible that at the thought that you are in Sevastopol, a feeling of some kind of courage, pride does not penetrate into your soul, and that the blood does not begin to circulate faster in your veins ...
i'm just talkin, my wife would never let me go
but damn....
it DOES make my blood "run quicker"
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That's an amazing prediction from 21
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maybe the truth is not one way or its opposite
but somewhere in the middle
Solving Russian Military Manpower Problem
if new mobilisation is declared only in regions immediately bordering Ukraine, such as Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod, Voronezh and Rostov, then cannon fodder flows don't have to pass through Moscow, thus reducing public exposure to the escalating cost of the war
I submit this as an example "of my work", willing to discus terms, I have my own literary Russian<--->English Interpreter
able to submit Russian or English wikipedia articles
will work for Russian nootropics
however, if you're trying to collect me through a "honeypot"
I am most attracted to very tall brunettes, with light colored eyes and skin and also good cheeckbones (you know the type!)
If I see a woman who resembles this description, I will walk up to her and say "privet", to get over that awkward initial meeting, by taking the initiave for making introductions
it's how I met my wife, almost 23 years ago!!
so, even though I got lucky, in Russia, you just never know when fortune will smile again in your direction
unless you contine to make introductions, by constantly networking while climbing the ladder in the direction you wanna go in
it could be money, government connections, or just access to a lotta sweet lookin single, horny women (usually divorced!)
cuz, whenever you find something that works, don't STOP doing it
amirite?
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Rumours are swirling in Moscow that former Generals and KGB officials are preparing to oust Putler to end the war in Ukraine,which is increasingly seen across Russia as a strategic mistake and an economic disaster.
If there is no real mobilization and no martial law it means that Russian Federation cannot use conscripts to the front and their divisions on the front will receive very few reinforcements.
Something to make very angry the officers and generals.
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If there is no real mobilization and no martial law it means that Russian Federation cannot use conscripts to the front and their divisions on the front will receive very few reinforcements.
Something to make very angry the officers and generals.
Film yesterday showed lots more Chechens boarding a transporter plane to go to the front.
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There is reportedly another Orc Ship on fire in the Black Sea.
The Admiral Grigorovich ..a class Frigate ..is on fire near Zmiiny island .
Rescue operation ongoing with multiple aircraft and rescue vessels in the area.
No confirmation at this stage...with some reports saying it's happening,but others saying it isn't.
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No confirmation at this stage...with some reports saying it's happening, but others saying it isn't.
I found the same. Reports are a mixed bag. Russia obviously controls the
Black Sea and I don't know how anyone can confirm it.
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If there is no real mobilization and no martial law it means that Russian Federation cannot use conscripts to the front and their divisions on the front will receive very few reinforcements.
Something to make very angry the officers and generals.
Pat,
It seems plenty of conscripts amongst the KIA and pows...???
Many I think a contract signed for* them by their superiors ;)
There are so many reports of captured who had never fired a live round before crossing the border.
Most by far from poor families un provincial areas.
Such is most wars
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekuO94UREgk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekuO94UREgk)
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The story looks like this one (to be confirmed).
The defense system on Snake Island started to be hit by Ukrainian TB2 drones.
Two fasts boats went to the Snake Island where a Russian garrison took place.
Both boats were destroyed by Ukrainian TB2 drones.
Russian sent his more modern frigate of the Black Sea to protect the area.
She was hit by Neptune missile(s).
The garrison tries to buy some food from Amazon.
Their credit cards are denied due to the sanctions.
They have started a campaign on the Internet to gather some help.
If you are interested write me on PM
(NB: They are more interested in potatoes, bottles of water, macaroni, vodka, and fresh milk than money itself just to say).
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The garrison tries to buy some food from Amazon.
Their credit cards are denied due to the sanctions.
They have started a campaign on the Internet to gather some help.
If you are interested write me on PM
Why can't they get the food left over in the freezers of the Moskva ship?
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Why would I want to help invaders whose military is executing civilians, raping women and children, and stealing anything not cemented to the ground?
Let them surrender and be traded for POWs. At least they will have done something useful.
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Why would I want to help invaders whose military is executing civilians, raping women and children, and stealing anything not cemented to the ground?
Let them surrender and be traded for POWs. At least they will have done something useful.
I think (hope) Pat was being funny.
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people "on the spectrum" sometimes have difficulty detecting humor, because they tend to interpret things literally, don't they BO?
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I think (hope) Pat was being funny.
Yep, true.
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people "on the spectrum" sometimes have difficulty detecting humor, because they tend to interpret things literally, don't they BO?
I am not on the spectrum. I learned in my career that it was better to take people literally, and keep my opinions on nuance to myself.
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"I learned in my career that it was better to take people literally, and keep my opinions on nuance to myself."
convenient choice of career then...
but I think you were aware of this BEFORE you started your career
what else are you afraid of?
besides snakes
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I wouldn't be afraid of being on the spectrum, were I.
BTW, I am not afraid of snakes. We only have harmless garter snakes here, and to be honest, I've never seen one. I had no problem picking up frogs as a child, even though I wasn't a tomboy.
I do fear rats, I don't know why. We also don't have rats here.
Career wise, I don't take it as my job to negotiate a deal, only the legal terms to make it happen in accordance with the client's wishes. I will advise clients if I think their terms are too generous, or if I believe they won't get paid/face problems down the line. But it's not my money or my risk. I will tell them what I would do, but also that it's their money/their risk. I have only once not followed a client's instruction because it was so "out there". I ended up saving him $600,000, so he was happy at the end of the day.
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"I wouldn't be afraid of being on the spectrum, were I"
"advocats" shouldn't end sentences with dangling particples...
there are Trump voters here on this board who'd be incapable of filling in the "missing piece" and would become confused by it...
ha,ha my writing criticism was just a joke to - pfffftttt! there it goes!!!
correct way to write for Trump Voters
1. tell 'em what you're gonna tell 'em
2. tell it to 'em
3. tell 'em what ya told 'em
4. repeat...
most women's fear of snakes is due to their phallic shape
women think the snakes are gonna go after their vulnerable "VJJs"
that's ridiculous! just female insecurity!
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Russia is beginning to activate Army Reservists
Russia has almost 1 million total reservists
probably will do oblast by oblast while inching closer to Moscow
could easy pick up a couple of hundred thousand to match Ukraine's mobilization of 300,000
without doing an exhaustive call-up of reservists
and still no general call-up, university deferments until age 27
war will enter new phase this summer with reservists vrs reservists
Biden willsign the new lend-lease act with Ukraine on May 9!!!
US weapons factories will 3 work 3 shifts per day after that
All War!
All The Time!
"Они живые". Короткометражный фильм
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSY14PwVW_o
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With just the 2 yearly conscriptions and the martial law, they can send 250000 soldiers to the front.
I am not sure that the President of the Russian Federation wants to make such a political move.
Of course, the siloviki could consider that the Russian population is enough brainwashed thanks to the hysterical propaganda andthere is no risk.
That is the official version.
Privately most of the soldiers will quickly discover the truth on the front and their morale will get low very soon.
In this struggle, the numerical advantage cannot overcome trained troops with high morale.
There is a cascade psychological effect that hasn't still provoked the entire collapse of the front but you never know when it happens.
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We know from history, that when “the economy” faces a major decline, that having a large pool of “unhappy veterans” is usually a “trouble spot”
in the 90s, Chechen veterans became mafia “soldati” for better pay with the Tambov Clan!
In the 20s, who will hire veterans of the Ukrainian Special Military Operation and Exercise in Cultural Learnings…?
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Israel is providing Spike missiles to Ukraine through Baltic State intermediaries
Spike is a generation ahead of Javelin, has ELOS mode
Ukraine also has “unapproved” help from Israelis in the field of Plutonium reprocessing
Ukraine’s nuclear reactors produce enough Plutonium to make 1 fission bomb per day
Israel also has a company worth of high-end soldiers in Ukraine, who are busy taking notes while directly engaging the Russian Army!
(to help deal with Iranians later!)
Ukrainan nukes will be delivered by Tractors driven across the border to Russia
so everyone will have time to take cover
Civil Defense announcement will tell 'ya how many days it'll be before the tractor gets near 'ya
just enough time to do a quick panic buy and take cover
of course, there will be false alarms, from some local farmer plowing his field being mistakenly identified as a Ukrainain nuclear attack
folks, don't forget your Iodine tablets
I bought mine on Amazon and shipped them to my children, just in case...
and like the wise Confucious once said:
"eat contaminated food,
and sh*t happens"
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This us an article about a “pro Russian” politician, and how Russia miscalculated. I have provided a share token, if you click on the article.
http://archive.ph/2022.05.07-102623/http://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/07/world/europe/russia-putin-ukraine-politicians.html
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everyone loves treason
but everyone hates a traitor
Pied Piper of War
play a song, so the young will march to their graves cheerfully
play your magic melody
so, the next stage of the war is “the mobilization phase”
Ukraine is going to raise 300,000
Russia’s number is unclear, it could be from 300,000 to 800,000
as long as the West can keep Ukrainian troops better equipped
than Russia can equip Russian troops
Ukraine stands a chance of surviving the war of attrition that is on it’s way…
as both sides start “bleeding each other”
the side that passes out first, loses…
the side with the most brass knuckles, nun-chucks, nosh and britva will be the one standing
there are no troops who are more motivated than those whose families are in shelters behind their lines
The full industrial might of the USA will be behind them when Biden signs the first "Lend Lease" Bill since WWII, it will be signed on Victory Day, how ya like them apples, Putin?
oh and add UK, Netherlands, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Germany, Albania, Bulgaria, Austria
Croatia, Cze4ch Republic, Greece, Turkey, Slovakia, Slovenia, and more...
all shipping their weapons inventories to Ukraine
and several other countries "unofficially" shipping weapons
they WILL NEVER be able to taske Odesa
Russians shoud put fresh sunflower seeds in their pockets when they come to Ukraine
If I were a young Russian dewd, I'd get my PHD first, THEN join the military as an OFFICER!, very likely I'd go GRU
and then either be an English/Russian translator or analyst of some kind, might even be able to wear civilian clothing most of the time!!
make "all kind" of "killer connections"
so for smart dewds, military service in Russia is pretty easy, it's only dumbphuques from provinces who end up as canon fodder
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If I were a young Russian dewd, I'd get my PHD first, THEN join the military as an OFFICER!, very likely I'd go GRU
and then either be an English/Russian translator or analyst of some kind, might even be able to wear civilian clothing most of the time!!
make "all kind" of "killer connections"
so for smart dewds, military service in Russia is pretty easy, it's only dumbphuques from provinces who end up as canon fodder
Do the dumbphuques include Generals,Fighter and Helicopter Pilots too ?
Plenty of those Orcs ending up as cannon fodder in Ukraine too >:D
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Dear Friends,
If you like top-notch military information, I would recommend you:
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone)
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"Do the dumbphuques include Generals,Fighter and Helicopter Pilots too ?"
Hell yes!
and they are a small fraction of total casualties, under 1% combined
I'm just sayin, that if you're "smart" you can still do your military service, and come out in one piece
and end up with some pretty damn good stories to tell your children and grandchildren
it all depends on your test scores especially in mechanics and electronics sections
I worked as an enlisted man on radars in the American and Israeli Armies, and was never, ever in harm's way
if I were Russian, I'd have gotten my education FIRST, and used my college deferment
THEN gone into a technical branch like the GRU, as a FREAKING OFFICER!!
hardest part of this for me, was "Basic Training" in the summer
Israeli was the worst, ran all the time, practiced "water discipline" and was thirsty ALL THE TIME
after "Basic" it's just months of sitting in a classroom, studying trouble shooting theory and periodic testing, but maintaining "full military discipline" marching, saluting morning fall-ins easy, peasy
I worked in heated, air conditioned buildings
and could do WTF I wanted to after 6 PM
a young, baby faced soldier like me, wearing his uniform in public, could only go about 10 minutes before some MILF would approach me
they ALL wanted to MOTHER ME and smother me with their ample bosums!!!
Oh man, I freakin LOVED IT!
at age 18, I became a "nipple man", nipples were my acquired preference
loved rolling them around under my tongue
I didn't need Ukraine AT ALL, back when I was "white and fluffy"
In Russia YOU ARE YOUR NETWORK
starting out young in some network like the GRU
is a stepping stone to better networks
it's even better if you're young and married
but even single, out of all the connections you make
there will be at least 3 or 4, that will connect you "to some bizness" opportunity
for all the ladies...
here's a pic of me as a teenage soldier
PS, you can only criticize "my look" if you supply your own picture of your 18 yr old self
no pic, no criticism
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Krimster, ML, all,
I need help to exchange usd or sgd currency for rubles. I'm unable to physically go to Russia at the moment for legal reasons. Practically, I will require someone trustworthy who has a ruble bank account in Russia. I send you usd to your usd bank account, then my girl receives ruble from your ruble bank account. The amount wouldn't be much, maybe ~70,000 rub for this operation.
My girl has been struggling financially in Russia and I need to send her some money to help her cover at least some expenditures the next couple of months. This is exacerbated by the fact that both her mom and pop have seen their incomes dry up spectacularly, particularly mom, the breadwinner who has been forced by her employer to take holidays as her employer's factory runs out of parts (literally furlough).
It's another long story why I haven't brought her out of Russia after all this time. In case anyone's wondering, yes it's the same girl all these years and yes I don't normally send her money. Fully appreciate anyone who can viably lend a hand.
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if she lives in a big city, like Moscow, go tell her to find a bitcoin exchange
a place where you can buy and sell bitcoin
tell her to go there, and see what kind of ID she needs to show to them to exchange bitcoin for rubles
once she gets these details, wire her $1000 worth of bitcoin, you'll pay maybe 2% and so will she...
you can buy bitcoin on-line, google it
I do this on a regular basis, but can't provide details, as they are my own personal ones
payments to mistresses, illegitimate children, etc
OTOH, sending money to Russians is a BAD IDEA
the only people I send money to are my children, and I can do wire transfers straight to their bank in Tel Aviv
and pay their credit cards, etc
my advice, be sure you know WHY you are spending this money, i.e. "the real reason"
what is it buying for you, her gratitude?
you can tell me, c'mon now...
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I have no bank accounts in Russia.
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@ML Thanks.
@Krimster2 I was hoping there were better options. We'll try to go with the crypto route if this is the best way.
Nothing much I expect from her. Just the usual optimistic future family happily ever after which we both have been working towards for years. Right now just lending a small hand.
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for a limited time, you can wire money to the following banks
Sberbank,
Gazprombank
you friend would have to open an account at one of these banks
and you just do a regular wire transfer
eventually, these banks will be sanctioned, so this'll probably only work this year...
ask how she can receive money, choice, or only rubles, if choice, take dollars
tell her to go to the biggest local branch of one of these two banks
and ask about receiving wire transfers, currency choice, etc...
If you have all the codes and account numbers, names, etc, then you can do a wire transfer to Russia for about $35 and it takes less than 2 min on-line
other banks are blocked!
only these two!!
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The Struggle For Ukraine also affects some of us with Ukraine wives. My MIL and her son are hiding out away from Kiev. They left the apartment that Larissa owns in Kiev. Larissa has been nervous about her family still their. She has pretty much given up over her apartment in Yalta once the Russians took over Crimea. Her son moved to Israel a year or so ago and is doing well.
It was interesting going through my old trip reports and photos reminding me of my time in the (now) southern combat areas. Also am thankful that I got to spend time in Crimea which has been closed since the takeover.
I hope the other members with family members in Ukraine are joining in prayer for them.
Doug
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Krimster, ML, all,
I need help to exchange usd or sgd currency for rubles. I'm unable to physically go to Russia at the moment for legal reasons. Practically, I will require someone trustworthy who has a ruble bank account in Russia. I send you usd to your usd bank account, then my girl receives ruble from your ruble bank account. The amount wouldn't be much, maybe ~70,000 rub for this operation.
My girl has been struggling financially in Russia and I need to send her some money to help her cover at least some expenditures the next couple of months. This is exacerbated by the fact that both her mom and pop have seen their incomes dry up spectacularly, particularly mom, the breadwinner who has been forced by her employer to take holidays as her employer's factory runs out of parts (literally furlough).
It's another long story why I haven't brought her out of Russia after all this time. In case anyone's wondering, yes it's the same girl all these years and yes I don't normally send her money. Fully appreciate anyone who can viably lend a hand.
No! Dont send her money!! Scammer, Scammer!!!
Lol, just joking ;D
Funny it sounds like a dodgy ploy you get though I'm sure with her it's not Kyn.
Well I'm not sure about years, 3 or 4 maybe since you met her?
Not sure how things are going to play out with Russia, you would have to be hoping that a new iron curtain doesn't descend. If there's one thing I've learnt in that last few years that counting on stuff being the right way for future plans isn't often a great idea as things can get in the way and mess them up. Could you have gotten with her sooner in the west?
If I had a more conspiratorial mind she might have been turned against westerners and in favour of Pootin's Russia ;D
I think she's likely pretty sound Kyn but possibly leaving her out there too long may not be the best idea, she might tire and wonder if you are for real or just living a fantasy and go for a local option instead perhaps?
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everyone loves treason
but everyone hates a traitor
Pied Piper of War
play a song, so the young will march to their graves cheerfully
play your magic melody
so, the next stage of the war is “the mobilization phase”
Ukraine is going to raise 300,000
Russia’s number is unclear, it could be from 300,000 to 800,000
as long as the West can keep Ukrainian troops better equipped
than Russia can equip Russian troops
Ukraine stands a chance of surviving the war of attrition that is on it’s way…
as both sides start “bleeding each other”
the side that passes out first, loses…
the side with the most brass knuckles, nun-chucks, nosh and britva will be the one standing
there are no troops who are more motivated than those whose families are in shelters behind their lines
The full industrial might of the USA will be behind them when Biden signs the first "Lend Lease" Bill since WWII, it will be signed on Victory Day, how ya like them apples, Putin?
oh and add UK, Netherlands, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Germany, Albania, Bulgaria, Austria
Croatia, Cze4ch Republic, Greece, Turkey, Slovakia, Slovenia, and more...
all shipping their weapons inventories to Ukraine
and several other countries "unofficially" shipping weapons
they WILL NEVER be able to taske Odesa
Russians shoud put fresh sunflower seeds in their pockets when they come to Ukraine
If I were a young Russian dewd, I'd get my PHD first, THEN join the military as an OFFICER!, very likely I'd go GRU
and then either be an English/Russian translator or analyst of some kind, might even be able to wear civilian clothing most of the time!!
make "all kind" of "killer connections"
so for smart dewds, military service in Russia is pretty easy, it's only dumbphuques from provinces who end up as canon fodder
I'm surprised both sides haven't sent their infantry in en-masse all at once with the high number of casualties that usually entails to try to gain the upper hand. That's what has happened in some wars in the past. Russia with the greater number of soldiers on call is most likely to try that I would have thought, flood the enemy with a big ground infantry push and hope it overwhelms them. Tanks if course has ended up a non-starter for them. So if they aren't going to use their chemical or weapons of mass destruction then it's all they've got left I would have thought. The west is tooling up Ukrainian's army fast so I don't reckon Russia will get any further with the strategy it's been using to date. Which leaves the question, what next?
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powerful speach
http://youtu.be/Ky796BUuB0s
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Not sure how things are going to play out with Russia, you would have to be hoping that a new iron curtain doesn't descend. If there's one thing I've learnt in that last few years that counting on stuff being the right way for future plans isn't often a great idea as things can get in the way and mess them up. Could you have gotten with her sooner in the west?
If I had a more conspiratorial mind she might have been turned against westerners and in favour of Pootin's Russia ;D
I think she's likely pretty sound Kyn but possibly leaving her out there too long may not be the best idea, she might tire and wonder if you are for real or just living a fantasy and go for a local option instead perhaps?
There is a primary factor to this @Trench. She's still studying for her first degree in Russia in order to satisfy a long sought-after ambition put in place by her mother, though we all know how irrelevant these are outside of Russia, at least most of the time. Until she finishes this and gets her expected red diploma with highest academic honours, she stays in Russia and we see each other when fate allows. Lots of thirsty local options have always been available to her, if she wishes.
This disastrous war is ruining the innocent lives and livelihoods of too many, all to satisfy certain factions in power, and the sooner all this madness ends the better. The era of militaristic adventures needs to be retired to the annals of history!
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http://images.dailykos.com/images/1067864/large/victory-day-full.jpg?1652113221
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The era of militaristic adventures needs to be retired to the annals of history!
That will never happen in the era of human beings.
History proves this point.
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Some M777 Howitzers now being used in the Donbas region.
310 Ukrainian troops have been trained in how to use them so far.
In other news there were Freedom Of Russia Legion flags being carried and flown outside Houses of Parliament in London over the weekend...alongside Ukrainian flags.
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On May 10, 2022 in Russia, the governors of five regions at once submitted their resignations: Tomsk, Kirov, Ryazan and Saratov regions, as well as the Republic of Mari El.
Детальніше: http://socportal.info/en/news/four-russian-governors-resign-in-one-day/
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More and more Russian soldiers are starting to rebel and refuse to go to war in Ukraine. This is especially true for those invaders who were sent to regroup after their units suffered a crushing defeat from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kyiv region, the report says.
The SBU refers to new intercepted telephone conversations of the Russian military.
http://socportal.info/en/news/sbu-prognoziruet-bunt-russkikh-voennykh-posle-porazhenii-v-ukraine/
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kynrazor,
You should tell your Russian girlfriend that “Life is Short”
why should she waste her time pursuing a dead-end degree in Russia just because “mama said”
and why should YOU waste your time on a woman who can’t commit to living with you
because she is unwilling to change her life
and now you’re giving her money…
you are TOTALLY playing her game
you THINK you’re in a “relationship”
but you’re not….
Go find a real girlfriend who is willing to share your life
and stop playing her game
unless, of course, YOU TO are afraid of changing your life
so pretending to, is an acceptable substitute
and is an emotional crutch for you
now, even a geezer like me, could pick up a super-hot trophy wife in Ukraine
with hardly any effort
because I know HOW TO FREAKING DO IT!
Been There! Done THAT! AND got the T-Shirt!
but there are a lot of you who don't have have any clue about it
and just flail in the water, instead of swimmin like a shark about to catch his next meal
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Now, even a geezer like me, could pick up a super-hot trophy wife in Ukraine with hardly any effort . . .
OK . . . but then would you know what to do with her ???
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well... DUH!
show her the closet where I keep the cleaning supplies
and show her where everything is in the kitchen!
it's even better if you "breed them"
and make new kitchen help
this'll allow you to live a life of luxury
with your "female household staff"
once you train them!
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kynrazor,
You should tell your Russian girlfriend that “Life is Short”
why should she waste her time pursuing a dead-end degree in Russia just because “mama said”
and why should YOU waste your time on a woman who can’t commit to living with you
because she is unwilling to change her life
and now you’re giving her money…
you are TOTALLY playing her game
you THINK you’re in a “relationship”
but you’re not….
Go find a real girlfriend who is willing to share your life
and stop playing her game
unless, of course, YOU TO are afraid of changing your life
so pretending to, is an acceptable substitute
and is an emotional crutch for you
now, even a geezer like me, could pick up a super-hot trophy wife in Ukraine
with hardly any effort
because I know HOW TO FREAKING DO IT!
Been There! Done THAT! AND got the T-Shirt!
but there are a lot of you who don't have have any clue about it
and just flail in the water, instead of swimmin like a shark about to catch his next meal
:clapping: :truce: I respect your confidence & hustle krimster. She wanted to leave everything behind for me back then, but I sided with her mama. I guess, I don't know what I can add, except maybe I'm not as good an opportunist.
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well... DUH!
show her the closet where I keep the cleaning supplies
and show her where everything is in the kitchen!
it's even better if you "breed them"
and make new kitchen help
this'll allow you to live a life of luxury
with your "female household staff"
once you train them!
They are cute young uns. Probably still are very much so. I see their resemblances in you krimster. Happy to see you're blessed with two beautiful responsible daughters.
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they're grown and married now...
so I have a household staff shortage!!!
stop working against yourself
know what you want
and find someone who wants the same thing
this is step one!
you're young, got lots of time
my advice, try some local girls, "just for fun"
it'll help ya learn what your rough spots are in relationships
and give you a chance to work on it
best thing you can do now is focus on your career
so you can support a family in the future
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Explosions in Crimea....near the regional boundary with Kherson region.
The ensuing plume of smoke looks very impressive >:D
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The Orcs are fleeing in terror again N of Kharkiv..just as they did N of Kyiv...blowing up Bridges behind them to slow down the angry Ukrainians rapidly advancing on them.
The Ukrainians are particularly angry because they're finding Bucha-like scenes among civilians in the areas N and E of Kharkiv that are being liberated from the Russian Orcs.
The Orc reinforcements over the border in Russia are being told to hold the line.rather than try to advance into Ukraine, in total fear of the Ukrainians advancing into Russia.
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The Orcs are fleeing in terror again N of Kharkiv..just as they did N of Kyiv...blowing up Bridges behind them to slow down the angry Ukrainians rapidly advancing on them.
The Ukrainians are particularly angry because they're finding Bucha-like scenes among civilians in the areas N and E of Kharkiv that are being liberated from the Russian Orcs.
The Orc reinforcements over the border in Russia are being told to hold the line.rather than try to advance into Ukraine, in total fear of the Ukrainians advancing into Russia.
Yep I confirm that Ukraine regains some ground in this oblast.
It is also likely to put some pressure on the rest of the front and prevents some Russian serious offensive on other sectors.
It's probably showing that now Ukrainians, at this most, have gained some tactical initiative.
It will be worse in the next weeks as the 155mm, T72, Guepard, and other military stuff will all be operational on the front. They will also have more trained troops.
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It would be easier for Pootin to cut-off the weapons at their source rather than at their destination
so I would expect a major push by Pootin to influence elections in NATO countries
hoping to elect “Russian-friendly” leaders
who’ll stop the weapons flow
meanwhile, he just has to hang on to what he’s grabbed
Pootin used his heavy bombers for the first time
TU-95s are an underutilized and under appreciated resource…
and evidently unloved, I don’t know why
ask the Viet Cong what saturation bombing from B-52s felt like
Victory Day was a “nothing burger”
so whatever Pootin is going to do, it is NOT going to be public until after the fact
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It would be easier for Pootin to cut-off the weapons at their source rather than at their destination
so I would expect a major push by Pootin to influence elections in NATO countries
hoping to elect “Russian-friendly” leaders
who’ll stop the weapons flow
meanwhile, he just has to hang on to what he’s grabbed
Pootin used his heavy bombers for the first time
TU-95s are an underutilized and under appreciated resource…
and evidently unloved, I don’t know why
ask the Viet Cong what saturation bombing from B-52s felt like
Victory Day was a “nothing burger”
so whatever Pootin is going to do, it is NOT going to be public until after the fact
In the areas covered by the S300 Russians are NOT gonna to send any bombers. If they did it in Mariupol it's because they were out of the heavy Ukrainian SAM umbrella.
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It would be easier for Pootin to cut-off the weapons at their source rather than at their destination
so I would expect a major push by Pootin to influence elections in NATO countries
hoping to elect “Russian-friendly” leaders
who’ll stop the weapons flow
meanwhile, he just has to hang on to what he’s grabbed
Pootin used his heavy bombers for the first time
TU-95s are an underutilized and under appreciated resource…
and evidently unloved, I don’t know why
ask the Viet Cong what saturation bombing from B-52s felt like
Victory Day was a “nothing burger”
so whatever Pootin is going to do, it is NOT going to be public until after the fact
He would have loved Marine Le Pen to be elected. Sure
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Russian Disinformatze will focus on inflation
and how inflation is the fault of non Russian loving politicians
and if only there were more Russian loving politicians, then inflation would be less
simple...
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:clapping: :truce: I respect your confidence & hustle krimster. She wanted to leave everything behind for me back then, but I sided with her mama. I guess, I don't know what I can add, except maybe I'm not as good an opportunist.
Mistakes can be made dating a FSW, I've made a few. A lot of the problem is I think we go over there with the values we are taught here in the west influenced by Feminism. Out there they are not so familiar with these values and they can mess a relationship up. As far as I can see it's recognising how things are over there and not applying western values. Now that I've learnt that I feel better placed not to mess up again, hopefully. While I think you have possibly made mistakes Kyn it may remain to be seen whether it will screw up the relationship you might still be ok. Worst thing about making mistakes early on in a relationship in the FSU is that I think a lot of the time the damage is often already done and it can be undoable.
Myself I have tended to move in favour of living out there (in Ukraine, Odesa) when this war is over - I'm hoping not too long. It just bypasses a hell of a lot of bs, concerns, worries, etc. I think with FSW you are not really in their life unless you are actually 'in it' day to day. I think that's when many FSW let you into their lives instead of being an outsider. Otherwise the danger is that they just see you as some guy they see every so often and that's when potentially problems can start with them seeing you as something other to their actual life. Getting in and living with her often and so being relevant to her day to day is where it's at I believe. That's the way I look at FSU dating now anyway. Some people can yack on for hours on end on video chat as a possible alternative perhaps but I think that is more for those that like to live that lifestyle for me it's not the way I like to live my life.
Anyway, I guess you'll just have to see how things go with present girl Kyn. I think Krimster gives some good advice though, at a point not too far off in the future that seems logical bring it to a head on moving forward together and if no acceptance then possibly look at other options.
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The Orcs are fleeing in terror again N of Kharkiv..just as they did N of Kyiv...blowing up Bridges behind them to slow down the angry Ukrainians rapidly advancing on them.
Not all made it across the bridge. :devil:
http://twitter.com/i/status/1524006059110715393
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Ukraine's new ballistic can opener seems quite effective.
http://img.pravda.com/images/doc/a/c/ace12ed-rozbyta-genshtab10.jpg
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The Orcs have been slaughtered at Bilohorivka by the Ukrainians.
This week they lost two BTG's worth of Military vehicles in the space of 24 hours trying to cross a river on Pontoon Bridges.
i've seen photo's of untold destroyed Tanks and Armoured Personnel Carriers by the river from the site..jaw dropping stuff.
In other news i was in on a zoom call with the Azov Battalion and the Marines at the Azovstal Plant in Mariupol over the weekend.
Fortunately for me one of the Staff Officers there spoke perfect English.
The good news is that they've killed more than 2500 invading Orcs and destroyed 60 of their Tanks since February 24th in Mariupol. :)
They've done this with no Air or Artillery support.
The terrible news is that the Orcs have killed more than 25000 civilians there :(
I really don't see how any kind of peace deal can be agreed with Russia whilst Putler remains in power.He's a war criminal who decorates his butcher troops who have committed the worst atrocities.
How can you rebuild a country with him as your next door neighbour ?
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The markets aren't so bleak on Russia. The RUB is the strongest it has been since 2020 and in the trading range it has been in since 2014. Historically markets have provided a forward indication of the likely outcomes of war. Politics is an extension of economics, war is an extension of politics.
RF is swimming in funds, oil revenue is up 50%. They can finance the war a lot longer than Europe can. With the upcoming food crisis there's going to be a flood of migrants from North Africa and the Middle East to Europe... Europe is in a bad, bad way.
http://www.zerohedge.com/markets/what-sanctions-russian-oil-revenues-soar-50-hitting-record-high
The US is facing domestic inflation pressures not seen in 40+ years. Great for Trump! All the bad news is on Biden's watch. Trump would pull out of Ukraine like he did in Afghanistan. The Dems have two and a bit years to blow shit up.
I recommend reading Martin Armstrong. He's apolitical and no BS. He talked about the east of Ukraine splitting off as the most peaceful resolution of the conflict... eight years ago. He also wrote about the covert military support Russia provided to the breakaway regions (with photos).
http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/blog/
Sadly this is likely to be a multi-year conflict as it's an unofficial war between NATO and Russia. Things will get even messier when the CCP decide to drop the hammer and invade Taiwan.
I recommend keeping a few of sacks of rice at home. Spending a hundred dollars or a hundred quid on rice may turn out to be a handy insurance policy. We may witness the greatest global food crisis in our life times.
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Eastern Ukraine doesn’t want to split. It was possible in 2014, but things changed significantly.
As for the Russian economy-
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-09/russia-s-economy-facing-worst-contraction-since-1994
Not much rice is grown in Russia or Ukraine. The rice I buy is grown in California. I am not going to store it because it may go up $5 for a 10 kg bag.
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As for the Russian economy-
Err... are you forgetting about the west? Over the past three months:
- S&P 500 down 11%
- DJIA down 8.7%
- US Composite Index down 17.5%
http://www.tradingview.com/markets/indices/quotes-major/
Many markets are down 10-20% since the start of the conflict. That's with massive inflation, the highest in 40+ years, and central bank interest rate rises. Cryptocurrencies and gold are also down. It's a global shit show, not just Russia.
Military spending will only exacerbate inflation. The rich will not be impacted as badly, hence you're not concerned about food prices. But the world is in for a shock.
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I am not rich.
Inflation predates the invasion.
Even absent the war, markets would have been choppy.
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Dear Lord Haw Haw
The west has a choice.
They can either “pay the price now” when it will be cheaper
or they can wait until after Putin grabs Ukraine, Georgia, Belarus, Moldova, etc
and pay a MUCH steeper price
the smart move is to do it now…
if Putin succeeds in his conquest of Ukraine, it will make Russia MUCH more powerful
this will make each subsequent conquest of his easier and easier
for example, if Putin conquers Ukraine, he’ll just add Ukrainian soldiers to his army of conquest
did you ever hear about a thing called WWII?
Adolph first seized the Rhineland in ‘36
then Austria in ‘38
then Czechoslovakia in ‘39
and then part of Poland in ‘39 which finally triggered WWII
some of us learned a lesson from this
and some of us apparently still want “Peace In Our Time”
but, the peace is only temporary
if you REALLY want peace, Russia must be SOUNDLY DEFEATED
and it’s power reduced, so that it stops its expansionism
inflation, is a small price to pay
when compared to the price Ukrainians are paying
whether we like it, or not, we ARE in this war with them
and if you’re smart, like some of us are
on the day the war started you bought nickle, palladium and oil futures
all my investments are rising with inflation, housing, commodities
I have a huge stockpile of EVERYTHING
I became a major “prepper” during Covid, and will continue this lifestyle
in a couple of months, my sons-in-law will get K-1 visas
and they and my daughters will be living permanently in the USA
I married an FSU woman and took her out of Crimea
and my daughters married two Moscovites
and they took them out of Russia
so me and my family are doing “our bit” for depopulating Russia non-violently, thereby reducing its power
I'm gonna take a guess about you
I'm guessing your scorn for Ukraine, comes from a bad romantic experience there
ever hear the expression, "hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned?"
my understanding is that rejection is a hurtful thing (never experienced it myself)
awww, poor baby
your fee fees got hurt
and to compensate, you became a Putin lover
I never really understood how someone could "screw-up" in Ukraine
things are SO FREAKING EASY there
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This is the views of the former Chinese ambassador to Ukraine. This was removed a few hours after it was published. Apparently, it is indicative of the Chinese communist party’s view.
http://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2022/05/10/fmr-prc-amb-to-ukraine-on-russias-impending-defeat-and-international-relations/
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I make a distinction with Gao Yusheng’s words.
Russia HAS NOT been defeated
Only the terribly misguided initial PLAN to invade Ukraine has been defeated
Russian victory will depend on formulating and implementing a NEW PLAN!
If I were Putin, my next move would be to stop wasting the Iskander and Tochka-U “raketta” on civilians and instead target Ukraine’s high altitude air defense missiles like the S-300 and Ukraine’s remaining fighter aircraft
once they’re destroyed he will have high-altitude air superiority, and can then safely deploy the ancient TU-95 bombers of which he has about 500 to carpet bomb Ukraine’s defenders on the Eastern and southern axis
and while doing this, raise a new army from 1,000,000 reserves and new conscripts to take advantage of the gaps his air force creates
however, if this approach is too complicated, then a simpler approach is to use EMP weapons against Ukrainian defenders
all the Western weapons have complex embedded computers that are subject to destruction by EMP
making them totally useless
The Soviet Union was the World leader in EMP weapons and Russia inherited all this technology
The more the west piles on sanctions against Russia, the fewer they have left to apply in the future
Little threat to Russia from the West with sanctions compared to the benefit of using EMP weapons
Indeed, it could even serve as a warning to the West
A major EMP attack over North America, would a year after the attack, kill 90% of the population, according to the USA’s own study
the west has only a few small prototypes
Russia has complete large scale systems ready to use either in Ukraine or in North America/Europe
China and North Korea now have nuclear capable ballistic missile submarines
if Russian subs shadowed them and launched from China/North Korean waters
who would the USA blame and what kind of retaliation (considering that EMP weapons would't even break a single window, just shotdown the grid and destoy all computers, phones, etc)
there are people in the GRU researching this right NOW!
what people in the West don't realize
is that Russia has too much at stake to lose this war!
if they lose this war, then the current kleptocracy oligarchy political system will collapse in a couple of years
so THEY have no other choice but to win or die
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EMP's don't prevent Nukes being launched and hitting their targets.
So if an EMP would kill 90% of the USA population after a year i'd fully expect the USA would Nuke Russia within that year.
Sure Russia would launch Nukes back,but it wouldn't really matter if the USA population is dying off quickly anyway.
So Russia would be wiped out as well as the USA.
I'm sure Putler is well aware of this.
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Russia’s killer EMP attack on the West could be done with a handful of warheads
the casualties would take time, a year to reach full effect…
literally, not even a single window would be broken from an EMP attack
all we’d see would be a couple of REALLY bright flashes in the sky
it's rumored that the EMP weapons are already in orbit
we think they’re spy satellites
but they’re NOT!
What if immediately after the attack
Russia announces that if ANY missiles come to Russia, they will immediately target all Western cities in response
would the West still attack?
Russia has spent a LOT of effort simulating this and analyzing Western responses under different scenarios
using them in Ukraine would be easy, and totally wipe out all western weapons except artillery and firearms
there are plans to use China and North Korea as scapegoats
and I imagine these countries have similar plans with Russia as the scapegoat
so if this happens, I doubt we’ll ever know who really is responsible
or even care
if Pootin is dying of cancer already, will he care?
I dunno...
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Horrendous day for the Orcs in eastern Ukraine .
They tried again to cross that river at Bilohorivka and got smashed ...again.
Film of that particular disaster for the Orcs being shown by an incredulous CNN today.
The western supplied 155mm Howitzers are absolutely hammering the Orcs behind their own lines...total carnage.
They've had to dig in to defensive positions around the Zaporizhia oblast because they're failing to advance.
Pro-Russian separatists/traitors against Ukraine from Donetsk and Luhansk being prevented from fleeing into Russia by Russian forces.and are now in danger of being encircled by angry Ukrainian forces.
Orc troops being shelled in the city of Kherson by precision western Artillery..with reports of countless Orcs killed and others arriving at hospitals with serious injuries.
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What if immediately after the attack
Russia announces that if ANY missiles come to Russia, they will immediately target all Western cities in response
would the West still attack?
Any attack on a NATO country by Russia will immediately elicit a response from all the other NATO countries..so yes the West would attack Russia.
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using them in Ukraine would be easy, and totally wipe out all western weapons except artillery and firearms
The same would apply to the Orcs weapons in Ukraine.
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Ukrainian forces now re-taking the Donbas region from the Orcs.
Six towns and villages have now been liberated in the region with the Orcs suffering heavy losses.
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China “got away” with launching a Bio-attack that killed over a million Americans and a similar amount in Europe
I do believe that Russia is more than capable of doing something similar and getting away with it as well
Russia’s economy in a couple of more years on its current course
will become “desperate”
Desperate times will call for desperate measures
Russia’s new leader, will be looking for “magic” that let’s him “pull a rabbit out of his hat”
various labs in Russia will audition for the magic “talent show”
the best will be chosen as the winner and receive fame and more importantly funding
nuclear EMP weapons have a radius that is determined by the height of detonation
so Russia can control this
they can also use “Explosively Pumped Flux Compression Generators” these have a range of only a few hundred yards, but they’re cheap to make so Russia could make thousands and mix them in with conventional bombs and saturate forward Ukrainian positions
Russia was the original inventor of this technology, it’s decades old
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1996/apjemp.htm
of course Russia could skip all this and just go for the Novichok in Ukraine, and not worry what NATO thinks about it
100 KG of the most potent of the Novichoks will kill 50% of the people in a 1 km radius
the US is concerned about this, but the amount of “chemical protection” they provided is too small and ineffective, more symbolic than real
I’m just saying, don’t get used to the idea that this war is winding down and that Russia’s gonna lose
there will be major surprises in store down the road
weird observation:
MIG model numbers are always odd numbers, 15, 17, 19, 21, etc
why is that?
fun video:
Russian Victory Day
http://twitter.com/i/status/1523935155181658112
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I would read this article with a grain of salt. I don't know how much credibility
to give an article like this.
A COUP to boot "cancer-stricken" Vladimir Putin from power is already underway, Ukriane's spy chief has claimed.
http://www.the-sun.com/news/5337781/coup-remove-vladimir-putin-underway/
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Great movie
“The Death of Stalin”
The Russian “Urge to Purge” will surge
All oilygarch’s close to Putin will fall out of windows and commit suicide
Will the state suck up oligarch’s assets, or will there just be new oligarchs…
Clans are positioning themselves, first move was to get their families out of Russia
so it’s just clan soldati now
Tambov clan will lose out to Solntsevskaya
if I were still in Russia I’d be making some awesome IEDs right now
and would be in on the looting of private artwork, etc of Tambovs
bummer, that I gotta be a baby sitter instead
but this’ll have its rewards later
PS
Alexander Subbotin, a Lukoil exective just joined the Russian rock band, "The Dead Oligarchs"
the band is growing so fast, it'll soon be called an orchestra
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[quote author=krimster2 link=topic=22223.msg565278#msg565278 date=165254047
I’m just saying, don’t get used to the idea that this war is winding down and that Russia’s gonna lose
there will be major surprises in store down the road
As i posted on here before...Russia WILL lose this war,one way or the other.
As i also posted,the only question is how many of us will they take down with them..because nothing the murderous sub-humans will do will surprise me in the slightest.
The thing is not to be afraid of them or show fear..because they feed on fear.
They see signs of morality as weakness.
NATO should stop saying "we don't want a war with Russia " because that lets the Orcs know we have lines we won't cross.
Better NATO doesn't respond to Orc threats and that will start putting doubts in the sub-humans minds as to actually how far NATO is willing to go...let them start worrying about us.
NATO needs to be ready to do whatever it takes ..because life isn't worth living if we spend the rest of it quivering in fear about what the Orcs will do next..
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It’s obvious even to me that battlefield strategies are being devised and directed by the US/UK. Thank God for that! They are heads and shoulders above their Russian counterparts.
I won’t guess on what the future holds. I do hope Russia retreats and that peace prevails.
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I liked this piece on Ukraine’s Jewish community-
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/ukraine-jewish-community-russia-invasion-resistance-1351070/
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Jews have been outwitting the Russians for centuries
my ancestors were “contrabandit” in imperial Russia
and exploited the monopolies the Czar created for their own gain
for example, alcohol production was a monopoly the Czar gave to his druzya
and only they were allowed to produce it
and the Czar “got a piece” of course
but then along come the Zhidsters and make their own that’s even better quality (Kosher!) and cheaper (no Czar tax!)
and they made a small empire out of it while on the surface they were just harmless “peddlers”
I did the same thing, my great uncles taught me EVERYTHING I needed to know when I was a malchick, they were the top Jewish Mafia in Philadelphia, Prohibition was sent from God, as far as they were concerned, my family invested their profits into Mayonnaise and other Food products and created a second family business empire
so whenever laws are created, outlaws will be made as well
in Russia the opposite of an outlaw isn't a law abiding citizen, it's a slave
most Russians will choose slavery
but not my ancestors, and not me
my comments about Russia's future game changing strategy isn't meant to be a fear generator
just a warning about predictability vrs unpredictability
when Putin is gone, you can bet there's gonna be a lot of unpredictability
Putin's future will be clearer 6 months from now
1/8 of Russia's economy will disappear this year
and maybe another 1/8 two years from now
without an offset from aquiring Ukraine, and the leverage it would give over the rest of the world (you vant food, horrosho...just do what I say)
the current order will not survive
I would LOVE to go back to Russia if the winds shift to my favor
I love it there, except for the weather and my current status with the FSB
PS
The only thing more dangerous than a victorious Russia
is a defeated Russia
remember these words
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http://electrek.co/2022/05/12/this-quiet-electric-motorcycle-is-helping-ukrainian-snipers-fight-back-against-the-russians/
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UK Intelligence says that the Orcs have now lost a third of the ground forces they started with when they invaded Ukraine.
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A volshebnick wrote Putin a letter, telling him every reason why the war would fail, including the betrayal by the Silvoki, and slipped it under his door late at night
unfortunately, it slid under a carpet, and Putin didn’t find it, until it was too late
however good our intentions, however advanced our knowledge
we are all subject to changes in fortune that are as random as a roll of the dice at a crapshoot in a dirty alleyway
all of life is but a dream
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RF is swimming in funds, oil revenue is up 50%. They can finance the war a lot longer than Europe can. With the upcoming food crisis there's going to be a flood of migrants from North Africa and the Middle East to Europe... Europe is in a bad, bad way.
Europe isn't financing anything. Like usual they will pay less than 10% of the
tab, which isn't even a decent tip.
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The Orcs are now conscripting Ukrainian women between the ages of 35-50 who are not single mothers, or otherwise don't have at least three children, from the Separatist areas in Ukraine to fight.
They must be getting desperate.
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Europe isn't financing anything. Like usual they will pay less than 10% of the
tab, which isn't even a decent tip.
The criticism would not work using the US, since even before the invasion, Russia’s entire economy was smaller than that of Texas.
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Russia can’t fix it’s internal economic problems, because the people who control the economy, are the ones who drained and broke it in the first place
the only economic model they understand is to monetize a resource and sell it abroad, and take most of the profits offshore for the chosen few
but they have already done that with what they currently control in Russia, fossil fuels, etc
so there’s no room to expand their way out of the economic malaise they’re in
except…
to gain new territory and new resources
that’s where Ukraine comes in
400 million people depend on Ukraine as a food source
Russian planners know that global warming will within 10 years cause a global food shortage
pushing up demand and prices
adding food to fuel exports, will give Russia TREMENDOUS international leverage
another resource that Russia has in short supply, is people
Russia’s population today, is about where it was in the mid 1980s thanks to a major demographic decline. In comparison, USA population expanded by 40% during this time
so seizing Ukraine from fascists, nudge, nudge, wink, wink
will solve in the short term the economic and demographic problems
as well as provide a strategic military geographic advantage
side benefit is that during war time, Russians will not be allowed to have anti-Putin protests
cuz it would be so very unpatriotic
this is the wind that’s propelling the sails of the floating Potemkin village
unfortunately, they got lost, and ran the ship aground
so what’s next for this Russian version of Gilligan’s Island
will they just stay on the island
or try to fix the boat and leave?
Hmmmm…..
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The criticism would not work using the US, since even before the invasion, Russia’s entire economy was smaller than that of Texas.
Can we just send the Texas Rangers (not the sports team) to take care of the Russian military ?
Texas Rangers | Department of Public Safety
http://www.dps.texas.gov › section › texas-rangers
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I was playing hide-and-go-seek with my wife, but she cheated and got the stud finder from my toolbox and found me
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I was playing hide-and-go-seek with my wife, but she cheated and got the stud finder from my toolbox and found me
I like it.
And by coincidence . . . we just finished a session.
Good timing, as wife leaves tomorrow for a trip to Ireland to visit relatives living there and those who came from Ukraine.
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The 74th Motorized Rifle Brigade were the elite among the Orcs.
They had just been re-trained for modern warfare and had been equipped with new equipment.
In the Orc disaster at the Bilohorivka Pontoon river crossing they sustained 485 casualties out of a total of 550 and lost 80 vehicles to Ukrainian Artillery.
In other news Ukrainian troops were shown on film on the BBC today at the Orc border and looking like they're keen to push on.
and why not ?
The Orc Miltary is on its knees in Ukraine..either destroyed or bogged down.
Putler would find it very difficult to use his WMD if the Ukrainians have taken Orc cities...as it would mean bombing his own country.
It would be difficult for even him and his regime to hide things like radiation sickness as it spreads across Russia, or all the power going off, from even his gullible citizens.
Uncontrollable wildfires spreading from the east,which will get even worse as summer kicks-in and an angry Ukrainian Military advancing from the South would be very interesting >:D
Taking Russia would be an excellent way to stop the Orcs ever attacking Ukraine again.
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My mama said:
“no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.”
and yes, George Orwell was my mother!
so, the Russian dick taters may change faces, but not core goals
the war of Russian dick taters against Ukraine, will be continuing for generations
it’s already been going on for centuries
whatever happens now is only temporary
Meanwhile…
it looks like the Russian plan to encircle Ukrainians in the East has been called off
and in the south, they are changing from offensive operations to defensive
so more or less, Russia has pushed the “pause button” on the war
while they go to the kitchen to “whip up something” and then come back and press the “play button” and continue the movie from where they stopped it
hoping that the freshly made snack will make the "kino" more enjoyable for them
I'm too sexy for my hat, too sexy for my hat
whatcha think about that?
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The criticism would not work using the US, since even before the invasion, Russia’s entire economy was smaller than that of Texas.
What's that got to do with the absence of air on the moon? The size of Russia's
economy affects French or Belgian aid to Ukraine?
Europe is paying for about 10% of the aid to Ukraine. There is a zero percent
chance of Russia invading the USA. The same can't be said for Europe.
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It’s about how “great” the Russian economy is doing. It’s not, and it never was.
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The true economic cost of the war is difficult to calculate, cuz even the human cost includes an economic element as well
allegedly, Russia is spending 900 million dollars per day, to directly fund the war
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-spending-estimated-900-million-day-ukraine-war-1704383
so by the end of the month they will have spent roughly 100 billion USD in direct costs
assuming Rand Paul’s effort to derail congressional funding of the war will fail, then the USA will have spent about half this amount during the same period (but of course the 30 billion in aid will largely be in the future, so you have to add some amount to the Russian side, so it may be closer to 1/3 Russia’s spending, say by end of summer
since the war started, crude oil is up about 40%, this may take 1 to 2% out of the USA’s GDP
Russia on the other hand, is expected to lose about 12% due to sanctions this year
then of course, there’s the human cost
Russia has lost a third of its forces KIA or WIA and a LOT of equipment
right now, the KIA is about half what we had in the Vietnam war, in a 12 year period
while the West has lost a couple of volunteers and journalists
we have gained A LOT of valuable intelligence, and weapons testing
while Russians have received humiliation
I don’t really know what combined European spending is
but I’d expect it to be more than 10% of what the US has spent thus far
it’s too much work to go list country by country, unless someone has already done this work
The west has to look at this expense now, for what it could save it in the future
it’s like auto-maintenance, if you don’t change the oil now, then later, you’ll have to change the engine
if you don’t stop Russia now
then you’ll have to stop Russia and Ukraine later
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This was on Russian television.
http://mobile.twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1526293852704890882
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Good interview-
http://archive.ph/24NYM
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This was on Russian television.
http://mobile.twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1526293852704890882 (http://mobile.twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1526293852704890882)
I'm surprised he's allowed onto Russian State TV.
I saw him about a week ago on a Russian TV clip somewhere else saying the Russian campaign was going disastrously,and that Russia hasn't got good enough reserves in their manpower to change the outcome...the rest of the speakers on that particular show looked suicidal when he'd finished talking..it was comical to see their downcast reaction. :)
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Good interview-
http://archive.ph/24NYM (http://archive.ph/24NYM)
Very concerning news tonight that the wounded Military from the Azovstal plant have surrendered to Russian forces and are being taken to Russian controlled Donbas.
If the reports are correct i can't see any of them being seen alive again. :(
If it was me i'd sooner suffer and die in the steel plant,surrounded by friends and colleagues, than let those Orcs get their hands on me and torture me to death.
People are waiting for Zelensky's statement tonight for clarification.
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Update from Ukrainian Military.
53 seriously wounded troops taken to a hospital in Novoazovsk,which is in Russian controlled Donbas.
211 have been taken to the infamous RUS/DNR filtration camp at Olenivka . (where some might be lucky enough to survive the interrogations for POW swaps with Orcs.)
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in “Russki yazyk” this is the public’s first preview of the War’s new direction
kinda like a strip tease that slowly reveals what’s beneath after removing the obscuring garments one at a time… and this video was the first glove to drop off
so, if there ain’t a massive mobilization (most likely choice to get off Gilligan’s Island)
then it’s gotta be Novichok or Nukes
if it’s Nukes, then I’m predicting a warning shot in space at night first, to warn the west about any escalating after Russia uses WMDs, I really do have my camera ready pointed out the large window overlooking the back porch focused on the sky to catch it
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CB, he could have been allowed to appear if Russian strategy, or even retreat, is being reconsidered.
My preference would be a negotiated peace, perhaps give up Crimea.
Here’s another military analysis-
http://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/the-ingenious-strategy-that-could-win-the-war-for-ukraine-20220517-p5alz4.html
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in “Russki yazyk” this is the public’s first preview of the War’s new direction
kinda like a strip tease that slowly reveals what’s beneath after removing the obscuring garments one at a time… and this video was the first glove to drop off
so, if there ain’t a massive mobilization (most likely choice to get off Gilligan’s Island)
then it’s gotta be Novichok or Nukes
if it’s Nukes, then I’m predicting a warning shot in space at night first, to warn the west about any escalating after Russia uses WMDs, I really do have my camera ready pointed out the large window overlooking the back porch focused on the sky to catch it
USA/NATO isn't backing down as the USA on Saturday successfully tested a new hypersonic weapon...with" speeds five times greater than the speed of sound ".
The test,which was conducted in the Pacific off the coast of California,comes just weeks after the UK,USA and Australia agreed to work together on hypersonic and anti-hypersonic weaponry.
As for Putler using ANY WMD,including Nukes ,then NATO has already told him that nothing will be off the table in their response to that.
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The Orcs suffer losses in heavy fighting near Sievierodonetsk,retreat on several more fronts.
However,they continue their offensive in the eastern Donbas region with their main efforts focused on Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts.
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Observations of an American military commander-
http://www.thebulwark.com/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies/
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I've just been watching a CNN report on the SBU arresting spies for the Orcs in Ukraine.
The SBU are arresting one or two spies a day.
They caught one today in Slovyansk..he was recruited online and gets paid $10 for any info he gives the Orcs about Ukrainian military installations/housing in the area so they can be targeted...the SBU checked his phone and the Orcs were thanking him for the info from him they'd successfully used the previous day.
Seriously,what kind of person gives up the lives of people for $10 ?
He'll get life imprisonment if successfully convicted .
I'd have shot him on the spot..but that's just me.
Maybe they do when the TV cameras are not present. >:D
This was always my biggest concern in this war in that there are so many ethnic pro-Russians living in Ukraine,who will happily betray the Ukrainians they live among.
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I am well aware of the existence of the AGM-183A
However, this is a prototype years away from deployment
meanwhile, Russia has used about 12 hypersonic missiles in Ukraine with conventional warheads
Russia has “talked the talk” about nukes
but at some point, “reality” may force them to “walk the walk” in Ukraine
Russia has about 2,000 tactical nukes, including neutron bombs and nuclear EMP bombs
no problem for them to change warheads
the USA and NATO have conducted themselves with a strategy of “minimum risk” to themselves
that has “telegraphed” to Russia what they will or will not do
NATO’s strategy is to WEAKEN Russia, while receiving minimal physical damage in return
Russia can signal to NATO that ANY use of direct military force by NATO will be meant with a nuclear response
this is called “raising the bet”
I don’t think NATO would cover that bet, and they’d fold
I don’t think it would take more than a handful of tactical nukes against Ukraine’s military
and maybe Kiev, for the war to come to a close
an alternative to the nukes would be Novichok, which would not be “as clean” to use as nukes
because deploying Novichok takes a lot of skill, nukes just require a warhead substitution
by using nukes, Russia will change the dynamics of the game both for Ukraine and the West
neither really has a response if Russia uses nukes (this is why the USA's response is so vague)
and the Russians know this
the problem is this:
Russia has already spent 100 billion USD on funding the war, and have had hundreds of billions of state and oligarch assets seized, and their economy will lose hundreds of billions of USD each year due to sanctions, not to mention KIA/WIA and equipment losses
to suffer this much loss, without gaining anything in return will not be acceptable to them
if they were successful in reconquering Ukraine and controlling all its resources
my balance sheet says, it would be worth the price they paid
and I’m sure they’ve reached a similar conclusion
so IMHO, "the numbers" dictate that Russia will do what it's gonna do
always understand, that whenever there's a big "imbalance"
something will ALWAYS come along to push it to the other side
it's nature's way
PS
This Sunday CNN will have an interview with Trevor Reed, the ex-marine imprisoned in Russia on esionage charges
you can be sure, I'm gonna watch this, while thinking, "there but for the grace of god..."
even though I have many "get out of jail cards"
after a day in solitary, I become "feral" and that freaks out Russians
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A report from Melitopol.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/05/23/a-ukrainian-city-under-a-violent-new-regime
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if'n it were my town, before Russians came in, I'd buy as much vodka as I could, and put a drop of ethyl mercury (easy to make) in each bottle
and put the bottles somewhere that's easy for the soldiers to find...
and then walk around with a big ass grin on my face
too bad there wouldn't be a way to buy life insurance policies on Russian soldiers
cuz then I could use those funds to buy more vodka and make more ethyl mercury
and move from occupied town to occupied town
who can make the sun shine?
the vodka man can
cuz he mixes it with love and makes the vodka taste good
it's fun being a chemical partisan
and by the time they'd all die, I'd be somewhere far, far away
yalky palky
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CB, he could have been allowed to appear if Russian strategy, or even retreat, is being reconsidered.
My preference would be a negotiated peace, perhaps give up Crimea.
Here’s another military analysis-
http://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/the-ingenious-strategy-that-could-win-the-war-for-ukraine-20220517-p5alz4.html
Mikael as a retired air force colonel is most often the voice of reason on that propangada fest.
He made good comments regarding sable rattling at finland only looking foolish,and the geo political.isolation. tropp trainingva motivation of ukranuans being the key factor, referencing lenin thoughts on same...
As such,knowing he is a paid propagandist for state tv, i took this as the typicsl.seeding of information to the shows demographic,older russians.
To.prepare them for russian change in policy in this conflict. To gibe them.a background of why* its beneficial.for russia to back.up
State propangada going thos route seems a very good sign for ukraine
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Russia ain’t gonna back up, for reasons I explained above
they really have only one choice now
victory, by whatever means necessary
and if the first method failed
well then, bring on harsher methods
backing up would bring defeat and breakup the empire
an unacceptable condition
the propaganda is just a “smokescreen”
they also can’t just remain where they are and play defense
because Ukraine will keep chipping away at them
and they’ll suffer these losses for no gain
there is really just one choice
Russians can decide the specifics, the where and when and how many
but backup? Defeat? No freakin way
but there may be a short term advantage in making the enemy think they are
young people in Ukraine, especially women should get iodine tablets
just sayin
Read a book called “Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin”
this book is about the earlier history of the same struggle going on now but in a different time and different players (but same game)
I took a shitload of drugs in Auschwitz and Baba-yar to help me get to their center (to help ignore the tourists and emotions)
because the only way to do that is to be in an "altered state"
once you see the path it left in the past, you can keep tracing it on into the future and see it there as well
If the Russians go down this path
the smart thing for them to do
is to wait for Ukraine to mobilize and deploy the reserves they’re building up
and THEN hit the Ukrainians with “baby nukes”
as well as Kiev
and the oblasts will all fall like dominoes
game over, when there ain’t no more central government and no more Ukrainian troops to stand in the way
Odesa would be an easy target for Novichok
sure, go hide in the catacombs…
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Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end.
(chorus)
Putin can beat anyone at dominoes
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Russian soldiers of the 70th Motorized Rifle Regiment of the 42nd Motor Rifle Division,located in the Zaporizhzia region of Ukraine, openly refuse to take part in the war and demand to return to their homeland.
This is how Despotic Regimes start to fall apart...Nukes or not.
The Freedom Of Russia Legion has been in touch with the rebels and asked if they'd like to fight alongside fellow Russian soldiers against Putler and his Regime.
In other news two high-ranking Russian senior officials were this week assassinated in Melitopol by partizans..the Orc bodies continue to pile up in that particular Russian Occupied city.
and..looks like i was correct about the Azovstal fighters not being seen again after they surrendered to the Orcs...after the Russians changed the narrative about POW swaps to now holding trials and possibly executing them.
Zelensky was either incredibly naive about trusting the Orcs and telling his troops to surrender to them or they'd run out of ammo and had no option.
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Mikael warned Russians about "information tranquilizers" in the video from Kremlin-TV (All Lies! All The Time!)
but this warning applies to both sides
don't you see how western media is giving you your daily fix of "victory"
so you continue to support the pushers
the one thing they're afraid of is people in the west getting tired of the war and losing interest
Russian wars always involve Russia having MASSIVE losses
but Russian perseverance is omnipotent
they ain't gonna give up over these losses
because such numbers are just "statistics"
the only thing that would be worse than a Russian victory in Ukraine
would be a Russian defeat
because that would lead to something much worse happening
"no army on earth, can stop an idea whose time has come"
Russia's future direction is dictated by things beyond their control
they have no choice but to do things that would sound insane to us
no choice...
so it's gonna happen
it all comes down to timing
it'll be sometime in the window of the fall of this year to early 2024
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A revolt within Russia would likely be very bad for the west.
This to me is an attempt weaken them,yet not so far as to destroy the current admin.
Either way I do agree their fate is unlikely completely in thier hands through this.
Ideas have consequences, bad ideas have victims.
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A lot of people having their whole lives destroyed in this war and being left in a dreadful state. This BBC news report highlights one of the most unfortunate individuals who has lost his entire family and hence pretty much all he had in life, I found it pretty explicit in showing how bad life can become overnight if unfortunate enough:
BBC News - Ukraine: The police officer who lost his family in one Russian strike
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61451469
They were showing the TV version on BBC News, the guy showed the TV crew all the way around where his family home was and how the poor chap found what had happened to his family. Pretty atrocious that someone has to endure all of that, I don't know how the guy has held it together so far, he's pretty much lost everything and is left alone, pretty much every one he knew and close to gone. Seemed surprisingly composed for the most part at least for the cameras I would guess. Still turning up for work by the looks of it, I'm not sure I would want to go on in his place but probably he's in an uncertain place and can't really register it. His wife looks like she was quite a stunner, if I managed to get a pretty girl like that I would be quite happy I would think. Anyhow thought it worth posting up for any non-UK guys on here as really brings home how bad some people can suffer out there and what the war can take away from them, in some cases their whole happy prior lives.
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I was playing hide-and-go-seek with my wife, but she cheated and got the stud finder from my toolbox and found me
Clever girl!
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Da! together we oppose moose and squirrel!
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Sanctions against Russia now starting to cripple them.
Russia's Central Bank admits that sanctions have disrupted supply chains.
Weapons manufacturers suspending activity due to lack of parts.
Defence companies struggling to replace advanced tech.
Domestic vehicle sales fallen by 80% partly due to lack of components.
Russian crude oil exports down 30% in April and expected to fall further.
Russia forecast to have the deepest recession since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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inspiration
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Sanctions against Russia now starting to cripple them.
Russia's Central Bank admits that sanctions have disrupted supply chains.
Weapons manufacturers suspending activity due to lack of parts.
Defence companies struggling to replace advanced tech.
Domestic vehicle sales fallen by 80% partly due to lack of components.
Russian crude oil exports down 30% in April and expected to fall further.
Russia forecast to have the deepest recession since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
All above may be true but . . . Russia has captured a lot of ground and will be executing a lot of Ukrainians that surrendered.
I am surprised that any of the guys who had Nazi tatoos did not just kill themselves rather than surrender. Would be better for them.
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All above may be true but . . . Russia has captured a lot of ground and will be executing a lot of Ukrainians that surrendered.
I am surprised that any of the guys who had Nazi tatoos did not just kill themselves rather than surrender. Would be better for them.
There was more fighting at the Azovstal Plant today..with more airstrikes from the Orcs again.
Deputy Commander of the Azov Regiment "Kalina" recorded a video in which he said he's still at the Azovstal Plant .
"The operation continues ,the details of which i will not disclose ".. were his words.
It's quite possible that none of the Azov Battalion surrendered ..for the reason you posted...they will probably choose to go down fighting and take as many of the Orcs with them as possible.
It's what i'd do .
It was probably the Marines,Border Guards and the Police who surrendered.
Yes the Orcs have captured a lot of ground,although not as much as they expected to.
The big question is can they hold the ground they captured ?
They couldn't in the Kyiv or Kharkiv areas...and now a lot more weapons will be flooding to the Ukrainian troops from the West...with a million more Ukrainian men chomping at the bit to be mobilized.
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Reports coming in that the Marines and Jets based at Miramar and also the 82nd Airborne NC and Navy out of Richmond VA are prepping for something.
Feedback given from locals is that's it's very reminiscent of the early prepping that was done before they went into Afghanistan and Iraq.
Read into that what you will.
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"Richmond VA" I remember cruising up the James River in my Dad's boat when I was a kid, but not as far as Richmond cuz it's too shallow
so I assume you mean Norfolk, VA, which is the US NAVY HQ of the East Coast, made famous by signs that read, "Sailors and Dogs, Keep Off the Grass"
I suspect they're going to deploy a carrier, the aptly named "USS George Bush" probably to the Baltic, and will add a few thousand marines and airborne to Poland to supplement what's already there
these numbers by themselves are insignificant
it does mean that the USA thinks things are gonna get "hotter" and not "cooler"
and possibly the ground forces might be used for training and support for future massive weapons delivery
but a force this isze is NOT for offensive operations, unless it keeps building like this every week
so calm down...
or you're gonna force me to show you my collection of Crimean War era English coins I dug up metal detecting from scouting the location of Florence Nightengale's Field Hospital on the outskirts of Sevastopol
where most of the British soldiers died of Cholera and not battle wounds
when given an elixer of opium to control the Diarrhea
one soldier said the treatment was very effective, "I shit thee not"
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Prepping also happening at Lejuene it's now reported by locals.
The Crimean War..another war noted for it's brutality.
Have you had those coins valued Krim ?
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no... but I don't think they're too valuable...
British soldiers were quite poor, so most common coin was a Victorian Penny, which REALLY made my detector ring!!
t'was more fun detecting for Greek coins at Chersonese, got quite a few of those as well, also mosstly bronze
to get "good stuff" you had to do some of that "midnight archeology" and loot a necropolis, I found three of those from Greek and Byzantine period
and detected them at night
I used to have SO MUCH damned fun in Crimea, detecting and "bunker diving"
nude girls at the beach was just icing on the cake
what a fun life I had then
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Yes the Orcs have captured a lot of ground,although not as much as they expected to.
The big question is can they hold the ground they captured ?
They couldn't in the Kyiv or Kharkiv areas...
I don't think too much crowing should be done over the Kyiv and Kharkiv developments.
As I saw it . . . Russian forces pulled back because they weren't advancing as they wanted to and could better be deployed elsewhere . . . not because Ukrainian forces were driving them out.
Yes, they didn't achieve their immediate objective . . . but they weren't driven away.
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Possible war scenarios-
http://archive.ph/AD65V
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Possible war scenarios-
http://archive.ph/AD65V
A thorough analysis. Thanks for posting.
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I don't think too much crowing should be done over the Kyiv and Kharkiv developments.
As I saw it . . . Russian forces pulled back because they weren't advancing as they wanted to and could better be deployed elsewhere . . . not because Ukrainian forces were driving them out.
Yes, they didn't achieve their immediate objective . . . but they weren't driven away.
ML this ukrainian commercial pilot dies a great job of covering the puch and pull.of the front lines daily .
http://youtu.be/NINWX5EyHyY
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When the laws of genetics are laid down, mutations will be born
and because of that, the presented analysis is too general, the devil dwells in the details
moy druzya, let me introduce you to the “Neutron Bomb”
A Kinder, Gentler Nuke
a smaller, "fun-sized" version of a hydrogen bomb with a few simple modifications under the hood.
It will convert 80% of its energy into a radiation burst, instead of 5% for a small fission bomb
For a one-kiloton Enhanced Radiation bomb detonated at 1,500 feet, the required lethal dose would cover an area of about 0.8 square miles
and BTW, a neutron bomb is almost exactly the same as a small EMP bomb
easy, peasy to deploy a few km away from your own forces who can be prewarned to protect themselves, a luxury Ukrainians won’t be given
and Russian psy-ops will be hitting western media with how a “kinder gentler nuke” ain’t really no big thing to get all worked up about, cuz they do little damage, much less than what was done to Melitopol, for example, so they are just tryin to end this inhumane war started by fascists, well just like the USA did in 1945…
hmmmm hmmmm….
Of course, Novichok could win out instead of kinder gentler nukes
it’d only take 100 kg of the most lethal version of Novichok to cover the same area as a Nice Nuke
they’d be loaded into a cluster type of munition and fitted to a cruise missile or ballistic missile
but the troops who perform this operation must be skilled at it, or they’re all gonna die, which’d only be a problem for them, and not the high command, so might be worth a try…
in short, it ain’t over til the fat lady sings, and we’ve only seen the first act of this shit show
the second is yet to come
Postscript
Senate has approved a $40 billion package to send emergency aid to Ukraine. The final vote was 86 -11. All Democrats supported the legislation. 11 Republican senators voted against.
House already approved, only Republicans were against there as well
so, it's pretty much a done deal!
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This BBC news article seems a pretty good update on where the strategic situation is at in Ukraine at the moment:
BBC News - Ukraine war: What might tip the balance?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61524175
Both sides seem to fighting each other pretty much to a standstill. Russia has retreated from Kharkiv, but has made slight gains in Donbas & pretty much just taken Mariupol. Mariupol is pretty much destroyed so won't be of much use to Russia in the short term at least. Meanwhile Russian troop losses are again reaching the point where they won't be strong enough to advance much further.
Ukraine on the other hand is getting heavy weapon howitzers from the west but as the report points out seems to hiding it's troop losses, that has been a issue which it has done all along only briefly once stating them I believe. Now though the report reckons they are higher than they had been before, they are probably right. Ukraine no doubt wants to keep up morale so it won't want that to ebb away with news if troop losses.
As a result potentially both sides may now be reaching a position of stalemate.
In the meantime, both Finland & Sweden have joined Nato and also signed mutual assistance agreements with the UK. Moldova has been highlighted as a vulnerable nation by the UK's Liz Truss and I think she is right and odds are will receive assistance and possible Nato membership as well, it's a small country so it would mostly be a case of protecting a small amount of extra territory so not a big deal but handy to stop further Russian land grabs in the future.
I think this Russia-Ukraine war has really changed Britain's position in Europe. Overnight we've gone from an ex-EU State setting out our own way forward post Brexit to a Superpower in Europe, a key player that East European nations are eager to get onside eclipsing even the EU in stature.Things haven't been that way since 1945 and the loss of Empire but it looks like after all these years we are back and currently the most powerful country within Europe.
So stalemate seems to be the way the Russia-Ukraine war is going. Unless one side can break this stalemate then who knows how long this war may drag on for. We're almost back to a war confined to the Donbas region. The economy of both countries may be pivotal, both as the report points out are declining but Ukraine is suffering badly on this front, when winter comes it may hit Ukrainians hard. Whether Ukrainians will stay in Ukraine or try to go to Europe to escape the effects of a worsening economic situation who knows but it's increasingly looking likely the situation in Ukraine may drag on for quite some time with the jury still out on who the winner will be.
What does seem increasingly clear is that Russia seeks to be after grabbing land for itself now and any land gains will likely end up more or less as permanent additions to Russian territory unless they can be win back. Ukrainian territory becoming part of Russia is not something I would want to see.
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Trench, did you offer your spare rooms to any Ukrainian refugees?
I thought you might have been one of those blokes on FB offering a room/bed to UKR women in exchange for getting your leg over?
Plus getting paid £350 a month? Not an inconsequential sun fir you.
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Trench, did you offer your spare rooms to any Ukrainian refugees?
I thought you might have been one of those blokes on FB offering a room/bed to UKR women in exchange for getting your leg over?
Plus getting paid £350 a month? Not an inconsequential sun fir you.
Not yet Gaunty, I was one of the first to sign up just in case but it's up to the signee to follow through as and when. Yes I saw there was a load of feminists already ranting on and tying to discriminate about 'single men' involvement in the scheme. They are thinking with their feminist western mindset of hostility towards men & sex and don't realise FSW view sex as no big thing.
Anyhow nah not been able to offer a Ukrainian girl a room yet, still need to finish off my place which will largely be do t by end of July. The good news with the scheme is that it can be done in addition to the rent a room allowance scheme for lodgers. So that means I can have 2 lodgers that will bring in £866 roughly a month then another £350 a month for the Ukrainian without my house being classed as a HMO (House of Multiple Occupation) and hence facing a lot more regulation and taxes.
I am cautious though as the £350 a month is given as a 'thank you' from the UK government for up to 12 months. Officially the room is rent free and you're not allowed to charge rent for the room under the scheme. So knowing how cunning the UK gov can be I'm wondering if after the 12 months the same might be true, the Ukrainian continues living their rent free and cannot be kicked out but the home owner loses the £350 thank you payment as after one year. I personally can't see them saying that ok it's alright to kick them out as where are they supposed to go? It will create a problem for the government as to where to house them (apart from possibly a few relatively small new comers to the scheme). They may not also get housing benefit or be under any inclination to give it if they do. So I'm not sure many people have seen that and may get stung by that if it goes that way.
Myself I don't need to impose myself on any Ukrainian girl I can go of and find one to my liking abroad somewhere not in the western world where feminists are on a witch hunt holding up the bogey man of the single male as the great evil. To me the £350 would be all that I need be interested in, I can do without having fingers pointed at me by feminists as it's easy enough for me to go abroad and avoid all that.To be honest it would probably be in the Ukrainian girl's interest to get with a single UK guy who owns their own property, it's a good deal for them, up to her though. End of the day any girl could be placed and I don't know if she would be hot or ugly and as you know I don't do ugly girls ;D I'm not even sure if I would get a girl now as a result of feminists creating all this stink over single men offering a room. I would pass a DBS check but it wouldn't surprise me that despite so called 'equality' that we are supposed to have in this country that single men get discriminated against on all this entirely now. I kind of knew shortly after the scheme was launched that the feminists would create an uproar on men trying it on with Ukrainian girls and would be an urge better off taken abroad they always do, know doubt many lesbians who despise straight men getting to women they see as needing 'protection' in their comforting arms.
Anyway, will see how it goes on that one, I may still see depending on whether single men are allowed to be a part of the scheme or been excluded based solely on our gender. The extra money of course would come in handy but it's not something I'm counting on.
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It's quite possible that none of the Azov Battalion surrendered
OMG.
The delusion is strong. I know you don't like Russian military actions but stay in touch with reality.
http://youtu.be/kwu5Gp8AFnk
Apparently ALL of them have now surrendered (in Azovstal).
The food crisis is heating up globally. Europe is attempting to starve the Ukrainians as much as the Russians by emptying UA food stores. Small problem for the Europeans - it has to be transported via Belarus, and the Baltic ports aren't designed for such exports... so may need to be exported via... Saint Petersburg!
:cluebat:
The European leaders are utterly clueless. Just about fell out of my chair laughing at Turkey and Croatia's responses to Sweden and Finland's applications for NATO membership. Pat - I hope you're ready for the next French revolution! You'll own/eat/have nothing and like it!
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Had to chuckle to myself at this little story:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mums-life-shattered-after-partner-27030547?int_source=mantis_rec&int_medium=web&int_campaign=more_like_this
Don't think it shows a pic of his wife, odds are nothing glamourous. My guess is Ukrainian girl will marry the dude to get a visa for a permanent stay then ditch him and go for an upgrade to a more wealthier guy. A case of Ukrainian girl grasping to get up the pole.
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"You'll own/eat/have nothing and like it!"
Then the French will eat cake
and it will taste much better than the vegamite and dingo burgers you eat
look, we here on RWD, all understand
that your ancestors were kicked out of the UK and sent to a penal colony and became sheep herders
and you couldn’t get laid in Ukraine if your freakin life depended on it
however, none of us feel any sympathy towards you
nope, we all find you irritating, like a bad rash, that needs some ointment applied
instead of working towards overcoming your many obvious issues
you instead want to annoy US with them, like your Putin fetish for example
I mean, seriously? What kind of borderline homoerotic adolescent hero worship is this?
Sounds like the kind that’s derived from complete and total sexual frustration
Confucious said, “man who has sex problem, will have solution in hand”
so perhaps that may give you some insight into solving your conundrum
unless that hasn’t worked for you either
sad...
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YouTube has taken down more than 70,000 videos and 9,000 channels related to the war in Ukraine for violating content guidelines, including removal of videos that referred to the invasion as a “liberation mission”.
YouTube did not provide a breakdown of the taken-down content and channels but Mohan said much of it represented Kremlin narratives about the invasion. “I don’t have the specific numbers, but you can imagine a lot of it being the narratives that are coming from Russian government, or Russian actors on behalf of the Russian government,” he said.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/22/youtube-ukraine-invasion-russia-video-removals
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The European leaders are utterly clueless. Just about fell out of my chair laughing at Turkey and Croatia's responses to Sweden and Finland's applications for NATO membership. Pat - I hope you're ready for the next French revolution! You'll own/eat/have nothing and like it!
Turkey wants everyone to let them.kill their kurds wihout anyone saying* that's not nice*
They will get over it. There is good reason they joined in 1952 ,and they have remained.
Their continued transparent operation of the straights is crucial to their own security as well.
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The food crisis is heating up globally. Europe is attempting to starve the Ukrainians as much as the Russians by emptying UA food stores. Small problem for the Europeans - it has to be transported via Belarus, and the Baltic ports aren't designed for such exports... so may need to be exported via... Saint Petersburg!
The European leaders are utterly clueless. Just about fell out of my chair laughing at Turkey and Croatia's responses to Sweden and Finland's applications for NATO membership. Pat - I hope you're ready for the next French revolution! You'll own/eat/have nothing and like it!
So what's your proposed solution? For Ukrainians to lay down arms and let Russians come in and summarily execute civilians, and rape women and children into submission? If they refuse, they can just be shot, or removed to "filtration camps" for "reconditioning". To let them ban the Ukrainian language (as has been done in the past by Russia), because botox addict Putin doesn't believe Ukrainians exist? Heck, why stop there? Let them reestablish Russian preeminence in the Baltics, the "stans", Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Armenia. Let them redeploy Russian troops all the way to the middle of Berlin. That will surely result in peace! Let's hand all the farmlands in Ukraine over to Putin's inner circle. I am certain that once Russian oligarchs control the most fertile land in the world, they will feed the world, benevolently. We can build a shrine to Putin, and worship daily. All news, from Vladivostok to Lisbon, can be provided by Russia Today. No need for other press sources, when Mother Russia is capable of keeping the masses properly informed.
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Boe, stop holding back !!
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OMG.
The delusion is strong. I know you don't like Russian military actions but stay in touch with reality.
Apparently ALL of them have now surrendered (in Azovstal).
The food crisis is heating up globally. Europe is attempting to starve the Ukrainians as much as the Russians by emptying UA food stores. Small problem for the Europeans - it has to be transported via Belarus, and the Baltic ports aren't designed for such exports... so may need to be exported via... Saint Petersburg!
:cluebat:
The European leaders are utterly clueless. Just about fell out of my chair laughing at Turkey and Croatia's responses to Sweden and Finland's applications for NATO membership. Pat - I hope you're ready for the next French revolution! You'll own/eat/have nothing and like it!
Concerning cereals France is the first producer in the UE.
Even if Ukraine is exporting 40% fewer cereals than it's used to doing, it's around 4% of the world's production.
Concerning the french revolution, it could be, but that's not new it started before the Covid with the yellow jackets.
You will be surprised but the main reasons were 1/ the prices of oil 2/ the 80 km/h (the speed was 90 km/h before on most French roads).
Of course, nowadays the purchase power problem is more present than 4 years ago.
But the destruction of the middle class is an ongoing process for 40 years and it's not happening in France only.
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Good solution BO,
but do you think Putin’s statue should be larger than “The Motherland Calls” statue in Volgograd, or the same size? And also don’t forget renaming St. Petersburg as Putinpolskiberg
Pat, sorry about the decline of France’s middle class, it’s all CLEARLY Biden’s fault, too bad you do’t get Fox News in France to hear the pravda, er I mean truth, instead of Le Figaro or whatever
PS
bonus read about Putin's EARLY cocaine smuggling days, before it evolved into its current form which I can't comment on
http://www.rferl.org/a/putin-cocaine-connection/31855099.html
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Good solution BO,
but do you think Putin’s statue should be larger than “The Motherland Calls” statue in Volgograd, or the same size? And also don’t forget renaming St. Petersburg as Putinpolskiberg.
Of course, the statue should be larger. There would also be smaller versions, so that individuals can have replicas in their mandatory home shrines, with three candles always lit, and frankincense, myrrh, and rose incense burned 24/7.
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hopefully it's not done in Greco-Roman nude style, otherwise they'd have to put fake owls on his willy, so the pigeons don't perch there, geeezzz
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hopefully it's not done in Greco-Roman nude style, otherwise they'd have to put fake owls on his willy, so the pigeons don't perch there, geeezzz
:ROFL:
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YouTube has taken down more than 70,000 videos and 9,000 channels related to the war in Ukraine for violating content guidelines, including removal of videos that referred to the invasion as a “liberation mission”.
YouTube did not provide a breakdown of the taken-down content and channels but Mohan said much of it represented Kremlin narratives about the invasion. “I don’t have the specific numbers, but you can imagine a lot of it being the narratives that are coming from Russian government, or Russian actors on behalf of the Russian government,” he said.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/22/youtube-ukraine-invasion-russia-video-removals (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/22/youtube-ukraine-invasion-russia-video-removals)
Oh dear..what will rwd123 watch now ? :popcorn:
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OMG.
The delusion is strong. I know you don't like Russian military actions but stay in touch with reality.
Apparently ALL of them have now surrendered (in Azovstal).
The food crisis is heating up globally. Europe is attempting to starve the Ukrainians as much as the Russians by emptying UA food stores. Small problem for the Europeans - it has to be transported via Belarus, and the Baltic ports aren't designed for such exports... so may need to be exported via... Saint Petersburg!
:cluebat:
The European leaders are utterly clueless. Just about fell out of my chair laughing at Turkey and Croatia's responses to Sweden and Finland's applications for NATO membership. Pat - I hope you're ready for the next French revolution! You'll own/eat/have nothing and like it!
If you read what i said .. i said "quite possible".
You do realize that possible isn't the same as saying they would not ?
Having said that i am surprised the Azov Battalion surrendered..orders or not...because there's a high chance they'll be tortured and executed by the Russians...with the Russian Parliament calling for them to be designated as terrorists.
As i posted before they surrendered if it was me i'd have gone down fighting orders or not..not because i'm particularly heroic,but i'd rather that than let the innocent women and children raping, then executing ,Russian Orcs get their hands on me.
By the way,regarding staying in touch with reality and delusion.... how's your "the war will be over in days" prediction back in February working out for you ?
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So what's your proposed solution? For Ukrainians to lay down arms and let Russians come in and summarily execute civilians, and rape women and children into submission? If they refuse, they can just be shot, or removed to "filtration camps" for "reconditioning". To let them ban the Ukrainian language (as has been done in the past by Russia), because botox addict Putin doesn't believe Ukrainians exist? Heck, why stop there? Let them reestablish Russian preeminence in the Baltics, the "stans", Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Armenia. Let them redeploy Russian troops all the way to the middle of Berlin. That will surely result in peace! Let's hand all the farmlands in Ukraine over to Putin's inner circle. I am certain that once Russian oligarchs control the most fertile land in the world, they will feed the world, benevolently. We can build a shrine to Putin, and worship daily. All news, from Vladivostok to Lisbon, can be provided by Russia Today. No need for other press sources, when Mother Russia is capable of keeping the masses properly informed.
You shouldn't have posted this Boe...rwd123 will be getting all excited at the thought of what you posted happening.
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So what's your proposed solution?
Negotiate a settlement. Unfortunately for the Ukrainian people there was a settlement that was ignored (Minsk Agreement), the US/UK 'advised' the Ukrainians in March not to negotiate, and the longer the conflict prevails the less bargaining power Elensky and co. will have.
Your post was an emotional outburst. Emotions won't resolve this conflict.
Putin wasn't lying when he said he didn't want to occupy Ukraine. It's simply being erased. Kherson is already Russia-d. Where next, Odesa? Dnipro? Kharkov? The Poles may pick up an eraser too and what will be left of Ukraine will resemble Moldova - a small, corrupt impoverished backwater in Eastern Europe.
I'm not advocating this - I'm simply the messenger.
As for Putin's mob controlling farmland... do you think the average Ukrainian benefits now? How much of it, and industrial production, is owned or controlled by Ukrainian oligarchs and foreign actors? One set of thieves replaced by another set of thieves.
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Of course, nowadays the purchase power problem is more present than 4 years ago.
But the destruction of the middle class is an ongoing process for 40 years and it's not happening in France only.
I agree, but the process is accelerating. I am more concerned for Europeans than other places. I think they will be hit harder than other parts of the OECD.
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Negotiate a settlement. Unfortunately for the Ukrainian people there was a settlement that was ignored (Minsk Agreement), the US/UK 'advised' the Ukrainians in March not to negotiate, and the longer the conflict prevails the less bargaining power Elensky and co. will have.
The failure of Minsk lies at the feet of first, the DPR and second, Russia. Not Ukraine. Not the EU. Not the US.
Here is what the US stated:
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Monday that the United States and Ukraine are "united" in supporting the Minsk agreements as the way forward to resolve the conflict. But he also hinted that the agreement alone isn't a one-stop solution, highlighting the challenges that the agreement presents.
"Minsk does not spell out some issues of sequencing when it comes to the steps that the parties need to take," Blinken said, adding: "Ukraine's been approaching this in good faith. We have not to date seen Russia do the same."
Duncan Allan, associate fellow of the Russia and Eurasia Program at London's Chatham House think tank, wrote that ultimately the argument about Minsk is this: "Is Ukraine sovereign, as Ukrainians insist, or should its sovereignty be limited, as Russia demands?"
http://www.cnn.com/2022/02/09/europe/minsk-agreement-ukraine-russia-explainer-intl/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2022/02/09/europe/minsk-agreement-ukraine-russia-explainer-intl/index.html)
That is hardly "advising Ukraine not to settle".
You should try getting your information from sources other than Russia Today.
Your post was an emotional outburst. Emotions won't resolve this conflict.
Putin wasn't lying when he said he didn't want to occupy Ukraine. It's simply being erased. Kherson is already Russia-d. Where next, Odesa? Dnipro? Kharkov? The Poles may pick up an eraser too and what will be left of Ukraine will resemble Moldova - a small, corrupt impoverished backwater in Eastern Europe.
I'm not advocating this - I'm simply the messenger.
As for Putin's mob controlling farmland... do you think the average Ukrainian benefits now? How much of it, and industrial production, is owned or controlled by Ukrainian oligarchs and foreign actors? One set of thieves replaced by another set of thieves.
Uh, no. It was sarcasm.
Yes, Putin wasn't lying about occupying Ukraine directly. Rather, he wished to install a puppet regime. Which is, de facto, the same thing.
48% of Ukraine's farmland is farmed by individual Ukrainians. There are two or three oligarchs who farm large tracts of land, and the rest is leased to foreign corporations. Ukraine has had moratoriums on land devolution since 2001. It can't be purchased, banks won’t lend on lands because they can't be seized, and there is no way to purchase land outright. Foreign entities and a few oligarchs lease large tracts of land.
The restriction on land ownership (meaning it is leased from the state) was ruled illegal by the EU Court on Human Rights. Land ownership reform was implemented July 1, 2021, and all purchases were tracked, to ensure oligarchs could not purchase lands. Foreigners are not entitled to purchase lands. That may change in 2024, subject to a national referendum on the issue.
I don't see an issue with large scale farm operations. Foreign ownership of farmland is restricted in most of Canada, but there is no restriction on foreign corporations leasing farmland, and that does occur.
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Karl Marx said over 150 years ago
that the dynamics of private capital accumulation inevitably lead to the concentration of wealth in ever fewer hands
we live in era of ever increasing income income inequality, and this is why socialism is the subject of such negativity in right wing media
but the class war is being perverted into a cultural war, based on race and religion by the upper class to exert political control over the lower classes
agree or disagree?
Discuss amongst yourselves
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Negotiate a settlement. Unfortunately for the Ukrainian people there was a settlement that was ignored (Minsk Agreement)
But there was already a negotiated settlement. The Belovezh Accords. This settlement was ignored by Russia.
There was another negotiated settlement. The Budapest Memorandum. This settlement was ignored by Russia.
Russia keeps negotiating settlements with Ukraine, and agrees to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity (as it was at the date of the agreements) and Russia keeps ignoring the agreements they have made.
It is not the US/UK fault that Ukraine doesn't want to negotiate a settlement with Russia. This is 100% Russia's fault, as they have shown time and time again that they will not honor any agreement they make.
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Of course, the statue should be larger. There would also be smaller versions, so that individuals can have replicas in their mandatory home shrines, with three candles always lit, and frankincense, myrrh, and rose incense burned 24/7.
Please don't infringe on my patent for the urinal freshener version.
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I have a patent for an electrified Putin urinal idol
one transformer lead goes to the idol, and the other to a metal plate on the floor
it has a voltage adjustment dial
I set mine to “stun” and find its effects to be very therapeutic
although it does throw off my aim
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Karl Marx said over 150 years ago
that the dynamics of private capital accumulation inevitably lead to the concentration of wealth in ever fewer hands
we live in era of ever increasing income income inequality, and this is why socialism is the subject of such negativity in right wing media
but the class war is being perverted into a cultural war, based on race and religion by the upper class to exert political control over the lower classes
agree or disagree?
Discuss amongst yourselves
I wouldn't disagree that some of that may be true, I think that the rich often put a lot of their money into efforts to support the continuation of their privileged position. This may take place through the media, government/political parties, etc.
I think though that there is a more basic undercurrent to the issue of wealth also. Basically the dynamic of supply and demand most notably in relation to supply of labour and the demand for it but also for housing and for food. Population is a big issue here as the greater and greater population that has come about on this planet the more resources are split between an ever greater population. So housing tends to get more dense, more compact and less pleasant for most as a result. I think ever growing populations is the biggest problem here. Big supply of labour means that, that labour can be bought very cheaply. That means a lot of people having to work for very low wages and hence attain very low wealth.
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Russia has now suffered more military losses in three months in Ukraine than the Soviet Union did in nine years in Afghanistan.
Apparently Russia has now deployed ALL it's forces to Ukraine ..there are no reserves left.
All combat-ready units of the Russian Army are taking part in the war in Ukraine.
Even the only special peacekeeping brigade in Russia has already been sent to the war.
Moscow and other large cities of Russia are protected only by the police and Rossgvardia.
Meanwhile nearly 50 Defence leaders from around the World met today and agreed to send more advanced weapons to Ukraine...they see the opportunity to destroy Russia's military i suspect.
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This is a good article about the Russian economy-
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/paul-krugman-how-the-west-is-strangling-putin-s-economy/ar-AAXBj8P?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7e792cea6ae947bfb90f110008e7708e
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/paul-krugman-how-the-west-is-strangling-putin-s-economy/ar-AAXBj8P?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7e792cea6ae947bfb90f110008e7708e
Could be; but I don't see it (strangling) yet.
A billion dollars a day coming in from oil and gas.
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Yes, but Krugman’s point is that imports tell much more of the story of an economy. On that front, Russia is already showing tremendous weakness.
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This is the story of an American soldier-
http://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/23/europe/ukraine-us-soldier-irpin-intl-cmd/index.html
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The DPR 107th Infantry Regiment and the DPR 3rd Infantry Battalion of the 105th both released filmed statements today telling Putler to do one and that they won't be fighting in the Luhansk region for Russia.
Seems they're starting to wise-up that doing a deal with the Devil ain't in their best interests after all.
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Ukraine now has the French Ceasar Howitzers..the most powerful Howitzers in the war.
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Church of Peter and Paul next to the Kremlin has been set on fire.
This is the Orc Orthodox Church run by the FSB and Putler's Mafia.
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The DPR 107th Infantry Regiment and the DPR 3rd Infantry Battalion of the 105th both released filmed statements today telling Putler to do one and that they won't be fighting in the Luhansk region for Russia.
Seems they're starting to wise-up that doing a deal with the Devil ain't in their best interests after all.
Not as good as it sounds at first.
They merely said they will continue to fight Ukraine in the Donetsk region rather than helping out in Luhansk.
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The DPR 107th Infantry Regiment and the DPR 3rd Infantry Battalion of the 105th both released filmed statements today telling Putler to do one and that they won't be fighting in the Luhansk region for Russia.
Seems they're starting to wise-up that doing a deal with the Devil ain't in their best interests after all.
Good news.
But seeing how several of the early leaders were killed off by fsb when their days of useful idiots expired, and them.being russia citizens dint fit the grass roots agenda, and then a local born taking over ,Pavlov, still feared for his life from the fsb and died under suspicious circumstances , they are a bit slow in figuring that out.
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Not as good as it sounds at first.
They merely said they will continue to fight Ukraine in the Donetsk region rather than helping out in Luhansk.
They don't really have a choice regarding continuing to fight in the Donetsk region.
They are gangster traitors to Ukraine,including fighting for Russia in Mariupol,where they lost approx 60% of their troops,so i suspect they'd get no mercy from Ukrainian troops who probably wouldn't let them surrender anyway.
I wouldn't.
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Zelensky the other day was banging on about how only diplomacy can solve this one (the war). I don't see it, not while Russia holds the lands it currently does, Ukraine would have to physically retake the territories it has lost so far, the majority of it for Russia to agree to leave/peace. Situation is at present that Ukraine naturally wants back all the territory Russia has so far taken. Russia on the other hand will want to retain the territory it has taken, Crimea, the Donbass including Mariupol and on top of that Kherson. It's what they have been keen on getting all along and the very least of what they want. With all the heavy losses to date on the Russian side they won't want to give up the small gains that they have made. Ukraine of course won't give up either and so both sides are now locked into war with no diplomatic solution. It's essentially the same issue all along as it's been from 2014 when the Donbas areas split, neither side wanting to give in except now Russia is bogged down in a wider conflict. They had of course hoped to break the deadlock by a swift military victory, take more land and have everything their way. This was of course not to be as we have seen.
Ukraine is now getting in much good weaponry from the west, this is only likely to continue and increase. For the west we are seeing that we need to stop Russia in Ukraine or further Domino's will fall in the form of Moldova, Georgia & the Stans. That would make Russia a far greater threat to the west and so it's better to stop Russia now in Ukraine. Just like if we had stopped Hitler sooner WWII would likely have been a much shorter and less bloody affair.
So with the west arming Ukraine I don't see Russia making much more in the way of gains. Their army is just not up to it, they are running out of military components and their economy is faltering. The only way they might gain much ground is by using a lot of WMD's and so far they seem to have kept them off the cards. So if it's conventional war in the main then it's either going to be stalemate and a long continuing war or Ukraine may gain the upper hand and push the Russians back. The latter looks feasible given their successes to date and a somewhat demoralised Russian side. With extra and improved weaponry being sent by the west that could prove to be decisive in that. Both sides seem to want it bad to have the territories being fought over, it really just seems to depend on how bad Russia wants it and how long and far they will go to defend what they have taken and anymore they wish to take.
Of the areas they have taken Mariupol is a smashed city and will likely take a long time to rebuild, the other cities not so bad. Kherson the other big city looks like it is increasing being turned into a Russian city, the Russian Rouble now being used, a pro-Russian administration has been installed, Russian media broadcasts have now taken over and it appears the old Soviet flag is now flying in the square, just like old times!
I know I said I wouldn't mention Kherson girl again as I've moved on but a final update here I think as might as well given the situation. Well Kherson girl is according to her social media still stuck in Kherson, looks like she didn't choose to flee, she has family there and I guess the invasion came fairly swiftly there. She is also apparently married now but no photos or name of who too does she post. So it looks like she is now likely stuck behind a new iron curtain enjoying life Russian style like it was back in old Soviet times with food shortages and all. Must seem like a world away compared to the luxury she enjoyed with yours truly in Cyprus I can only imagine.
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Seems that the Orcs are running out of Tanks..which is no surprise with the amount they've lost in Ukraine....destroyed,captured and abandoned.
There is film of replacement Tanks being sent to the front yesterday...and they're all Soviet era T-62's...which have absolutely no chance against the Ukrainian T-72's and T-80'S...even Grenades can take them out.
The Belarusian PM has confirmed they're now supplying weapons to Russia.
The Belarus dissidents fighting for Ukraine will love to hear that..makes it easier to oust Lukashenko when his military has run low on weapons too.
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Seems that the Orcs are running out of Tanks..which is no surprise with the amount they've lost in Ukraine....destroyed,captured and abandoned.
There is film of replacement Tanks being sent to the front yesterday...and they're all Soviet era T-62's...which have absolutely no chance against the Ukrainian T-72's and T-80'S...even Grenades can take them out.
The Belarusian PM has confirmed they're now supplying weapons to Russia.
The Belarus dissidents fighting for Ukraine will love to hear that..makes it easier to oust Lukashenko when his military has run low on weapons too.
I read the Forbes report, I wasn't aware that even the T-72's that the Russians have been using as their main battle tank was so old, dates back to 1969. So the T-62's are only a bit older however as the report says many of the 10,000 or so T-62's are lying rusted and unuseable in giant tank graveyards. Looks like the mighty statistics Russia uses as the size of its army lacks real life credibility. The T-62's are apparently easier to use, the few that still work and don't use advanced electronic components. My guess is that Russia is just throwing all they got into this last ditch offensive before it digs in and into a stalemate situation, as the article says. Quite what then who knows it's kind of like back to the old conflict zone situation where it rabbles on but no sign of either side winning out. Whether the west has armed Ukraine with enough modern weaponry to dislodge Russia and push them out who knows.
Russia's lost nearly 400 T-72 main battle tanks and many of its other T-72's are in need of repair for which it lacks the components to do so. I'm surprised Russia isn't in a better position with a more updated tank and lots of manufacturing of its own components for it. It seems kind of laughable and foolish to attack another country when their own military situation is so precarious. Russia's military and economic strength seems a lot weaker than I had thought.
Looks to me that Russia made big strategic blunders at the start which were foolish to make with them having such a precarious military strength. If they had attacked before they got the NLAWS from the UK and later the Javelins from the west then it would likely been a Ukrainian defeat, just a matter of 2-3 weeks or so of procrastination by Russia separating that. I also think that it's failure to try and cut of Ukraine's land border to at least make it awkward or difficult for Ukraine to get in supplies was a big military blunder. Russia had 3 battalions on the edge of Moldova it still hasn't used to date and I fully expected them to use them as well as strike down south from Belarus towards and past Lviv to accomplish that. It's fortunate that their whole military operation has been a disaster for both Ukraine and us in the west. The shame is all the Ukrainians that have had to suffer so badly as a result with lives lost and ruined.
At the moment Russia seems to be pressing Ukraine hard in Donbass. This looks like the last throw of the dice before Russia exhaust it's attacking capability, never thought I would see that happen so fast. Recent report on the situation:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/26/ukraine-pleads-for-more-weapons-to-tackle-russian-onslaught-in-donbas
Looks like Russia is allowing old boys to enlist to just have any cannon fodder to throw at the enemy. In Kherson they are using their old trick now of issuing Russian passports. Word had been that they are looking to press the men their into the Russian army to use as cannon fodder and if not already happening probably only a matter of time with the move to Russian passports. So really just a few more days to weeks before Russia runs out of offensive capability and digs in I guess.
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Seems that the Orcs are running out of Tanks..which is no surprise with the amount they've lost in Ukraine....destroyed,captured and abandoned.
There is film of replacement Tanks being sent to the front yesterday...and they're all Soviet era T-62's...which have absolutely no chance against the Ukrainian T-72's and T-80'S...even Grenades can take them out.
The Belarusian PM has confirmed they're now supplying weapons to Russia.
The Belarus dissidents fighting for Ukraine will love to hear that..makes it easier to oust Lukashenko when his military has run low on weapons too.
Imagine taking a tank into battle that is older than your parents. :trainwreck:
http://youtu.be/oubk1vLWJjI
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http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/26/ukraine-says-russia-canceling-school-holiday-in-mariupol-a77819
Younger students will be picking up bricks. The girls will be studying the finer points of mortar mixing in home economics and the boys will be learning brick laying. Schools will be rebuilt in record time. All will learn Russian math. (all profits go in kleptocrats' pockets)
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in Soviet Russia, you don't cross the border...
the border crosses you!
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http://youtu.be/3Y52c1b167I
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I read the Forbes report, I wasn't aware that even the T-72's that the Russians have been using as their main battle tank was so old, dates back to 1969. So the T-62's are only a bit older however as the report says many of the 10,000 or so T-62's are lying rusted and unuseable in giant tank graveyards. Looks like the mighty statistics Russia uses as the size of its army lacks real life credibility. The T-62's are apparently easier to use, the few that still work and don't use advanced electronic components. My guess is that Russia is just throwing all they got into this last ditch offensive before it digs in and into a stalemate situation, as the article says. Quite what then who knows it's kind of like back to the old conflict zone situation where it rabbles on but no sign of either side winning out. Whether the west has armed Ukraine with enough modern weaponry to dislodge Russia and push them out who knows.
Russia's lost nearly 400 T-72 main battle tanks and many of its other T-72's are in need of repair for which it lacks the components to do so. I'm surprised Russia isn't in a better position with a more updated tank and lots of manufacturing of its own components for it. It seems kind of laughable and foolish to attack another country when their own military situation is so precarious. Russia's military and economic strength seems a lot weaker than I had thought.
Looks to me that Russia made big strategic blunders at the start which were foolish to make with them having such a precarious military strength. If they had attacked before they got the NLAWS from the UK and later the Javelins from the west then it would likely been a Ukrainian defeat, just a matter of 2-3 weeks or so of procrastination by Russia separating that. I also think that it's failure to try and cut of Ukraine's land border to at least make it awkward or difficult for Ukraine to get in supplies was a big military blunder. Russia had 3 battalions on the edge of Moldova it still hasn't used to date and I fully expected them to use them as well as strike down south from Belarus towards and past Lviv to accomplish that. It's fortunate that their whole military operation has been a disaster for both Ukraine and us in the west. The shame is all the Ukrainians that have had to suffer so badly as a result with lives lost and ruined.
At the moment Russia seems to be pressing Ukraine hard in Donbass. This looks like the last throw of the dice before Russia exhaust it's attacking capability, never thought I would see that happen so fast. Recent report on the situation:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/26/ukraine-pleads-for-more-weapons-to-tackle-russian-onslaught-in-donbas
Looks like Russia is allowing old boys to enlist to just have any cannon fodder to throw at the enemy. In Kherson they are using their old trick now of issuing Russian passports. Word had been that they are looking to press the men their into the Russian army to use as cannon fodder and if not already happening probably only a matter of time with the move to Russian passports. So really just a few more days to weeks before Russia runs out of offensive capability and digs in I guess.
Trench expounding his views out of his bung hole as usual.
A push southwest from Belarus is next to impossible for the Russkies. Their supply lines would never survive given the sheer distance and terrain.
BTW, whatever came of your predictions of the Russkies overrunning Ukraine in no time?
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How interconnected and fragile the world has become
as “black swan” events have become so frequent that it numbs our minds from the constant bombardment
all this bad karma from the global forces that provide the weight that’s pushing things out of order
Russia, China, Middle East, Global Pandemics, Climate Change, Inflation, Income and Racial inequality
I think the world is about to enter a painful period, my friends
and I do mean my friends…
poot-ANUS, El Presidente of Russian Desperation, er Federation
has thus spoke
“cancel our sanctions, to get your grain” to hundreds of millions of people…
understand...
the world cannot remain a bystander, not only to the slaughter of total innocents in Ukraine
but the 400 million people who are gonna be without grain this winter!!
ya feel me?
WE gotta get our navies together, and open a free shipping zone in the Black Sea, all the way to freaking Odesa
and if the Russians. They don’t like it, then they can kiss moy bella jhoppa!
‘horrosho, Mfers!!!!
and YES, I got skin in this game NOW, but I’m not allowed to discus this on-line AT ALL!!!!
but it's pretty freakin' MAJOR!
PS
added benefit, of NATO navies elinating Russia's blockade of Odesa
is it can be a new shipping point for weapons, much shorter to front lines than from Western Ukraine
and NATO will guarantee delivery to Ukraine
and protect grain carrying ships when they leave Odesa
it's WIN! WIN!
PSII
if the US Navy participates in busting the Russian blockade of Odesa, and establishes Naval superiority in the Black Sea
then it can station frigates just offshore, that are armed with the SM-6 anti-missile missile
which can bring down Iskanders, or anything else Russians have
and make southern Ukraine, a missile free zone
and the Russian supply will grow less and less
and they'll eventually cut WAY back on use of these expensive weapons to sow terror in civilians
not that I'm trying to hand out strategic military concepts, or anything like that, I'm just thinkin' out loud!
http://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/what-we-do/missile-defense/interceptors/sm-6-missile
PSIII
Israeli egineers designed the software that went into this missile, it's a partial derivitive of Iron Dome
US ships are equipped with special interface to Israeli super radar that the commander has to engage on the bridge
this radar plans out the missile's trajectory and estimated target
if the distance, speed parameters are within spec
then a computer automatically decides to fire and provides guidance control
this computer system is so accurate, that it can plot a precise interception course, accurate to a few feet
that works, even if the missile changes it's speed, altitude and direction and range
once the computer steers the missile to calculated location the proximity fuse goes off if the missile is a few meters awayl
cool!
paka Iskander!!
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Trench expounding his views out of his bung hole as usual.
A push southwest from Belarus is next to impossible for the Russkies. Their supply lines would never survive given the sheer distance and terrain.
BTW, whatever came of your predictions of the Russkies overrunning Ukraine in no time?
They would have done had we not given them anti-tank weapons. Unfortunately Putin's tanks would have run all over them and blasted them to bits, Ukrainians had no answer to Russian tanks until we supplied it to them. Compare this time Russia invaded to last time when they invaded and had no trouble invading into the centre of Mariupol.
With going south-west from Belarus towards Lviv they would also need to use their 3 battalions in the east of Moldova to come out from there and take over the surrounding border area around that region. There may or may not have been a complete link up but controling a lot of the border area and making it awkward for supplies to get through would have likely have been decisive in Russia's favour and potentially a war winning manoeuvre. That they didn't bother even trying with that is another strategic blunder by Russia. They put too many tanks on the road to Kyiv instead and got bunged up in the worst tank traffic jam ever. I'm not complaining I wanted Ukraine to win but at the outset Russia held a big advantage but foolishly threw it away one bad move after another.
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(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz051822dAPR20220518064503.jpg) (http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz051822dAPR20220518064503.jpg)
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How interconnected and fragile the world has become
as “black swan” events have become so frequent that it numbs our minds from the constant bombardment
all this bad karma from the global forces that provide the weight that’s pushing things out of order
Russia, China, Middle East, Global Pandemics, Climate Change, Inflation, Income and Racial inequality
I think the world is about to enter a painful period, my friends
and I do mean my friends…
poot-ANUS, El Presidente of Russian Desperation, er Federation
has thus spoke
“cancel our sanctions, to get your grain” to hundreds of millions of people…
understand...
the world cannot remain a bystander, not only to the slaughter of total innocents in Ukraine
but the 400 million people who are gonna be without grain this winter!!
ya feel me?
WE gotta get our navies together, and open a free shipping zone in the Black Sea, all the way to freaking Odesa
and if the Russians. They don’t like it, then they can kiss moy bella jhoppa!
‘horrosho, Mfers!!!!
and YES, I got skin in this game NOW, but I’m not allowed to discus this on-line AT ALL!!!!
but it's pretty freakin' MAJOR!
PS
added benefit, of NATO navies elinating Russia's blockade of Odesa
is it can be a new shipping point for weapons, much shorter to front lines than from Western Ukraine
and NATO will guarantee delivery to Ukraine
and protect grain carrying ships when they leave Odesa
it's WIN! WIN!
PSII
if the US Navy participates in busting the Russian blockade of Odesa, and establishes Naval superiority in the Black Sea
then it can station frigates just offshore, that are armed with the SM-6 anti-missile missile
which can bring down Iskanders, or anything else Russians have
and make southern Ukraine, a missile free zone
and the Russian supply will grow less and less
and they'll eventually cut WAY back on use of these expensive weapons to sow terror in civilians
not that I'm trying to hand out strategic military concepts, or anything like that, I'm just thinkin' out loud!
http://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/what-we-do/missile-defense/interceptors/sm-6-missile (http://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/what-we-do/missile-defense/interceptors/sm-6-missile)
PSIII
Israeli egineers designed the software that went into this missile, it's a partial derivitive of Iron Dome
US ships are equipped with special interface to Israeli super radar that the commander has to engage on the bridge
this radar plans out the missile's trajectory and estimated target
if the distance, speed parameters are within spec
then a computer automatically decides to fire and provides guidance control
this computer system is so accurate, that it can plot a precise interception course, accurate to a few feet
that works, even if the missile changes it's speed, altitude and direction and range
once the computer steers the missile to calculated location the proximity fuse goes off if the missile is a few meters awayl
cool!
paka Iskander!!
It's a difficult situation for you Krim i can imagine.
You've been close to Russia ...and still are through your family..
I haven't got particular skin in this game....but eventually the whole World will have.
Maybe all those countries who refused to condemn Russia over the invasion because of their self-interests,and continuer doing business with them, might have to think again when their food starts running out and their economies start collapsing.
The UK had better NOT start sending foreign aid to those self-serving countries either...yeah India i'm looking at you.
We can't sit by and watch the Genocide that's happening..with reports now coming out that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have been deported to Orc Filtration camps.
I'm hearing abhorrent things that are happening to Ukrainian civilians.particularly women and children, in Kherson...unverified at this stage so i won't go into horrific details.
We already know for certain about the raping and killing of women and children in Ukraine..the executions of civilians..and the bombing and shelling of their homes..
It's clear that Putler and his inhuman Orcs are hell-bent on wiping Ukraine and it's people off the map...and having their own perverted fun whilst doing it.
Boris Johnson is now pushing for MRLS to be sent to Ukraine,and the USA is discussing it..don't take too long.just do it.
Russia ain't happy about the thought of that,because it puts their homeland under threat, and they're making their usual threats via Lavrov and Russian state TV.
It's up to NATO to say tough sh*t Russia,you should have thought about that before you invaded Ukraine and committed Genocide.
It's about time we started threatening Russia with actions, instead of having to just listen to their rhetoric all the time.
Wiping their Orcs off the face of the Earth would be a good place to start,and don't let ANY of them escape back to Russia ...so get those MRLS to the Ukrainian military.
Ukraine has never asked anyone to put boots on the ground in Ukraine..let's give them everything they need and NOW.
Because if we don't start doing it now ,it's going to be a lot harder down the road when our economies are on their knees.
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The Slav(e) mentality
NO! it’s not like THAT!
when I was younger, I wasn’t smart enough, to realize I shoulda dated oligarch’s daughters, and I could try to use cunnilingus as a tool, to work my way up the ladder as high as possible!
YOU have to “go down” to “go up” in Russia my friends
My wife’s relatives are at the bottom of the economic ladder,
so my wife’s relatives being poor and uneducated, support Putin
and I’ve ALWAYS had a low level war with them
wouldn’t find it to be awful, if a few of their spawn were sent to the Eastern Front (thoughts and prayers)
anyway, I digress. Instead of marryin’ an oligarch’s pretty young thing daughter, (and immediately becoming his foreign courier) I just “chased women” in Russia and Ukraine
and I did that until one CAUGHT ME!!!
hmmmm hmmmmm
no, I don’t count THEM as “skin in the game”
unfortunately, I am prohibited from providing even one single detail about what skin I have in this game now
and no, this has nothing to do with building an IED factory and training center in Ukraine
nichy vo moy droog
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Well,despite the prophets of doom saying the Ukrainian Air Force wouldn't last five minutes against the "mighty " Russian Air Force,including at least one poster on here....they're doing rather well ;D
In the Kherson region on Friday May 27th Ukrainian SU25's were attacking Orc troops.
As a result of the air raid a company-tactical group of Orcs with equipment and manpower was destroyed.
A rather peeved Orc Military then sent up a full bells and whistles SU-35 from Crimea to sort these impertinent Ukrainian Pilots out and show them who's boss.
A Ukrainian MIG-29 was covering the SU-25's and engaged with the Orc SU-35 and clearly being a superior Pilot shot it down at 14:10 Kyiv time >:D
Much gnashing of teeth among the Orc top brass no doubt ;D
In other news Ukrainian troops are now launching an offensive in the Kherson region.
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The Slav(e) mentality
NO! it’s not like THAT!
when I was younger, I wasn’t smart enough, to realize I shoulda dated oligarch’s daughters, and I could try to use cunnilingus as a tool, to work my way up the ladder as high as possible!
YOU have to “go down” to “go up” in Russia my friends
My wife’s relatives are at the bottom of the economic ladder,
so my wife’s relatives being poor and uneducated, support Putin
and I’ve ALWAYS had a low level war with them
wouldn’t find it to be awful, if a few of their spawn were sent to the Eastern Front (thoughts and prayers)
anyway, I digress. Instead of marryin’ an oligarch’s pretty young thing daughter, (and immediately becoming his foreign courier) I just “chased women” in Russia and Ukraine
and I did that until one CAUGHT ME!!!
hmmmm hmmmmm
no, I don’t count THEM as “skin in the game”
unfortunately, I am prohibited from providing even one single detail about what skin I have in this game now
and no, this has nothing to do with building an IED factory and training center in Ukraine
nichy vo moy droog
I'm going to have a stab at guessing what you are saying Krim, that those at the top in Russia see those just underneath them as a likely threat or competition. So it's safer for them to raise up some poor uneducated lot into a position of power that needs filling as they are likely more easily controlled and feel indebted to those that have raised them up out of their poor situation and into a good one. Possibly also that they are going to feel happy to hold onto what they have got rather than risk it by going after more and potentially losing it all. Not saying it always works out just so in practice but probably a better play for those at the top, am I right?
Meanwhile of course the Oligarchs who are presently knocking around find it harder to progress further up the ladder depending on how big an Oligarch they are. As you note worth dating their daughters as many are likely to hold onto what they have a fair old time so in theory a possible good marriage for both. That said no doubt the guy would have to get in with being useful as the foreign courier as you put it in whatever their operations are - an interesting prospect though myself I think I would likely prefer to avoid all of that and stay independent, I think I would prefer being master of my own game than a component of a mob like grouping just too much potential for trouble that could ruin my own world would be the way I would see it I think.
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NOT HAIKU!
apparachik magic
makes the world tragic
nihlists
denialists
in the audience
seal its fate
all the rewards
are just bait
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Odesa looked nice, but a little on the cool side, which is unusual for this time of year
less than a month from now, it should rain a lot
the stores, shops seemed empty, with only a few customers
no ships/boats visible on shore or out to sea
a lot of people milling around on Arcadia, no one was armed, no sign of the war
unlike Moscow, you can easily get FOREX here!! and CCs work to!!!
not bad! looks nice!! it just needs to be a little warmer!
my oldest daughter's husband, is going to be issued his K1 VISA in Warsaw Poland, next month
we're all flying to meet each other there, and return to where my daughter and husband will be living in Arlington, VA
now just one more daughter and husband to go, timeline from application was 8 months
which hopefully means in a couple of more months yougest daughter's husband will receive HIS K1 visa
they're moving to Oregon!!
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Odesa looked nice, but a little on the cool side, which is unusual for this time of year
less than a month from now, it should rain a lot
the stores, shops seemed empty, with only a few customers
no ships/boats visible on shore or out to sea
a lot of people milling around on Arcadia, no one was armed, no sign of the war
unlike Moscow, you can easily get FOREX here!! and CCs work to!!!
not bad! looks nice!! it just needs to be a little warmer!
my oldest daughter's husband, is going to be issued his K1 VISA in Warsaw Poland, next month
we're all flying to meet each other there, and return to where my daughter and husband will be living in Arlington, VA
now just one more daughter and husband to go, timeline from application was 8 months
which hopefully means in a couple of more months yougest daughter's husband will receive HIS K1 visa
they're moving to Oregon!!
How come the different States? Won't that make it less convenient to see each other? Was it their personal preference?
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a family agreement that my oldest daughter is gonna live in my parents house, given to me when my parents passed away a few years ago...
youngest and her spouse are gonna live in Oregon, they each will be going to different schools and have very different professional lives
that's the underlying reason for the divergent geography
my wife is gonna spend time in Israel, at the Dead Sea, with a relative of mine
I'll probably stay in Tel Aviv cuz I don't like getting all covered in mud the way that they do and they'll try and "slime me" which I REALLY don't like!!
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Some smiling during shelling.
http://youtube.com/shorts/D95hAgA-LR8?feature=share
http://youtube.com/shorts/dF_yhW5MkGk?feature=share
http://youtube.com/shorts/oxMhDXHOsAk?feature=share
http://youtube.com/shorts/qUtq5Qt5N6I?feature=share
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a family agreement that my oldest daughter is gonna live in my parents house, given to me when my parents passed away a few years ago...
youngest and her spouse are gonna live in Oregon, they each will be going to different schools and have very different professional lives
that's the underlying reason for the divergent geography
my wife is gonna spend time in Israel, at the Dead Sea, with a relative of mine
I'll probably stay in Tel Aviv cuz I don't like getting all covered in mud the way that they do and they'll try and "slime me" which I REALLY don't like!!
So is the Russian Oligarch connection working out? Or time over again would you have preferred your daughters to marry someone local so they are nearby?
I know you said the Oligarch family is at your place in South America as all did not go to plan, is it likely that will change over time or not quite got what was hoped for?
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These Ukrainians have nerves of steel for sure...you have to admire them.
I saw one of their soldiers talking in Kharkiv on one of the news channels.
He was saying the Russians are terrified of them..and he gave a sinister laugh as he said it. ;D
At the start of the war a news channel was talking to one soldier who had gone into hospital the day of the invasion for an operation on his shoulder.He had his operation and discharged himself the next day.
The reporter said "Why " ?
He replied "I wanted to get out there and do the best job in the World....trashing Ruskies ".
On another interview a refugee in Poland said her mother and her father arrived with her at Lviv,and then her father..a former Afghan Veteran...said "Ok you're both safe now i'm going back to fight "
She replied "But dad you're 61 and you can hardly walk.How can you possibly fight " ?
His response was "Then i'll crawl ".
Even the OAP's stand up to orc Tanks and troops and tell them to get lost.,
I suspect this is why so many western men fail to find a Ukrainian wife..the women probably don't think we're man/tough enough for them.
Russian's character is not coming out of this at all well.A former POW was saying on BBC today that he couldn't move because of his injuries after he'd been shelled and the Russian Nurses when bringing food to him in hospital would leave it out of reach and say "Try and eat that Ukrainian lowlife ".
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Yes, sometimes a woman wants a cute poodle to pet and sit on her lap
and sometimes a woman wants a lean and mean Doberman…
and if you can be both AND
make “a lotta” money AND
fix or make stuff
well, sheeeeeeeettttt, you got it made in the FSU with wimmin
they will be all over you, like a buncha ants crawlin over a bag of sticky wet candy
hmmmmm hmmmmm….
And if you ain’t this kinda guy
well, the outcome will be just like if you were staying home anyway
so my advice to you guys specifically, stick with the ugly local girls in your village*
cuz, when ya get down to it, ya really don’t have any other choice
hope this helps, and doesn’t sound too critical
*honestly, the best way to have sex with someone you're not attracted to
is to just turn off the lights and pretend they're someone else
you can fool your brain into thinking you're having sex with Raquel Welch circa 1968
works for me!!
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Meh, doesn't take much money.
Enough to be a normal family in the west with some disposable income for family trips etc, a decent sense of humor,good character and a devilish smile helps.
I'm exibit B to prove this easily.
My wife is gorgeous,amazing person.she has the patience of a saint to put up with me,but I don't ask why.
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I’m gonna take a “wild guess” that the reason your wife puts up with you, is that you have abnormally large male genitalia, like me!!
this is the only reason my wife pays any attention to me AT ALL!!!
however, if I am wrong about you, then I’m sorry…
maybe she’s a spy or something!!!!
PS, please accept this humble wisdom from Jane Austin
"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.”
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They would have done had we not given them anti-tank weapons. Unfortunately Putin's tanks would have run all over them and blasted them to bits, Ukrainians had no answer to Russian tanks until we supplied it to them. Compare this time Russia invaded to last time when they invaded and had no trouble invading into the centre of Mariupol.
Not at all. We have our own Stugna which was developed in 2011 and is quite good at destroying Russian armor. What’s more, Putin’s obsolete Soviet armor is also quite vulnerable to {once again Soviet} RPG-7.
It is offensive weaponry we still lack to oust the Nazis from Ukraine fast. When we get enough of it, Russia will be driven out of Ukraine within a few months. It is only the logistics and scumbags like Scholz that delay supplies, but Russia is doomed from the very beginning — it is just a matter of time and lives (sadly).
When Russia invaded initially in 2014, it is an irrelevant comparison as the Ukrainian army virtually did not exist then, and the majority of the people still viewed Russia as a brother nation and the war seemed to be some stupid misunderstanding. It is sad that even after 8 years a lot of Ukrainians failed to realize that it is a Nazi state dead set upon the 'final settlement of the Ukrainian issue' and it was only the Russian shells and cruise missiles that finally helped to turn the tide and convince a lot of my stupid compatriots of the obvious.
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Not at all. We have our own Stugna which was developed in 2011 and is quite good at destroying Russian armor. What’s more, Putin’s obsolete Soviet armor is also quite vulnerable to {once again Soviet} RPG-7.
It is offensive weaponry we still lack to oust the Nazis from Ukraine fast. When we get enough of it, Russia will be driven out of Ukraine within a few months. It is only the logistics and scumbags like Scholz that delay supplies, but Russia is doomed from the very beginning — it is just a matter of time and lives (sadly).
When Russia invaded initially in 2014, it is an irrelevant comparison as the Ukrainian army virtually did not exist then, and the majority of the people still viewed Russia as a brother nation and the war seemed to be some stupid misunderstanding. It is sad that even after 8 years a lot of Ukrainians failed to realize that it is a Nazi state dead set upon the 'final settlement of the Ukrainian issue' and it was only the Russian shells and cruise missiles that finally helped to turn the tide and convince a lot of my stupid compatriots of the obvious.
It's good to see that you're ok. :)
The huge problem you have in Ukraine is that it's so heavily Russian influenced.
It's held your country back.
You have a high percentage of Russians/ethnic Russians living there.
That's not to say they're all pro-Putler..because they're clearly not.
However,enough of them are that's it's badly hindering your war effort against the orcs.
The SBU are arresting one or two Russian spies everyday..and that's just the tip of the iceberg i suspect.
These spies/traitors give away your military positions and where your military hardware, arms and ammunition are stored for the price of a bottle of Vodka...constantly undermining your military,and then you have the gangster separatists to contend with in Luhansk and Donetsk.
Hopefully Ukraine will win the war and you can start deporting the pro-Russians living among you to.....Russia.
I hope that the idiotic Ukrainians who believed Russians were their brothers and sisters now realize how gullible they were.
There is a youtube channel called "Inside Russia ".He's a decent Russian/human being living in Moscow and he confirms that 75% of Russians support this war against Ukraine...much to his disgust.
There's a good reason why the vast majority of the Brits have NEVER trusted Russians...and now your people understand why.
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Not at all. We have our own Stugna which was developed in 2011 and is quite good at destroying Russian armor. What’s more, Putin’s obsolete Soviet armor is also quite vulnerable to {once again Soviet} RPG-7.
It is offensive weaponry we still lack to oust the Nazis from Ukraine fast. When we get enough of it, Russia will be driven out of Ukraine within a few months. It is only the logistics and scumbags like Scholz that delay supplies, but Russia is doomed from the very beginning — it is just a matter of time and lives (sadly).
When Russia invaded initially in 2014, it is an irrelevant comparison as the Ukrainian army virtually did not exist then, and the majority of the people still viewed Russia as a brother nation and the war seemed to be some stupid misunderstanding. It is sad that even after 8 years a lot of Ukrainians failed to realize that it is a Nazi state dead set upon the 'final settlement of the Ukrainian issue' and it was only the Russian shells and cruise missiles that finally helped to turn the tide and convince a lot of my stupid compatriots of the obvious.
The stugma has been working incredibly.
I hope all is well with you and your family.
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Russia has a choice:
1. fully mobilize
2. use WMDs
3. surrender, and Putin steps down
and you guys think it's #3?
I don't!!
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Russia has a choice:
1. fully mobilize
2. use WMDs
3. surrender, and Putin steps down
and you guys think it's #3?
I don't!!
I do not see #3.
I do think there is 4, 5,and 6
4. Withdraw while claiming de nazification complete by holdimg trials amd executing azov members in dpr territory which also gives them cuplable
deniability.
Also state that ukraine has bern suffoencently de militarized by the sie ial.operations taking out most of ukraunes airforce, most of its armoured vehicles, hot mpst of its military bases and key infrastructure,and eliminatimg 50k ukrainian troops.
None if it of course has to be accurate, up the propaganda ,limit pitzude media further and call .it a day
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In the battle for severodonetsk, the armed forces of Ukraine retook the city today.
The Dpr forces (117th?) deployed near kherson issued an official statement yesterday they will not fight for russia in kherson oblast ,and plan to return to Donetsk.
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Not at all. We have our own Stugna which was developed in 2011 and is quite good at destroying Russian armor. What’s more, Putin’s obsolete Soviet armor is also quite vulnerable to {once again Soviet} RPG-7.
It is offensive weaponry we still lack to oust the Nazis from Ukraine fast. When we get enough of it, Russia will be driven out of Ukraine within a few months. It is only the logistics and scumbags like Scholz that delay supplies, but Russia is doomed from the very beginning — it is just a matter of time and lives (sadly).
When Russia invaded initially in 2014, it is an irrelevant comparison as the Ukrainian army virtually did not exist then, and the majority of the people still viewed Russia as a brother nation and the war seemed to be some stupid misunderstanding. It is sad that even after 8 years a lot of Ukrainians failed to realize that it is a Nazi state dead set upon the 'final settlement of the Ukrainian issue' and it was only the Russian shells and cruise missiles that finally helped to turn the tide and convince a lot of my stupid compatriots of the obvious.
Don't worry Stirlitz the Foreign Legion consisting mainly of our Rambo's from the west has is already starting to turn the tide in Sievierodonetsk since they arrived there a day or so ago and will likely deliver that city back to you soon ;)
http://ukranews.com/en/news/861012-foreign-legion-enter-sievierodonetsk-to-help-afu-haidai
Already the Russian Army is suffering a reversal of its position there and suffering heavy losses and has once again been put back into retreat.
It's great to see you have produced some of your own stuff to knock out the Russian tanks, I was surprised how obsolete Russian tanks were dating back to the 1960s! The Javelins have the advantage of night vision I believe while the NLAWS are a quick fire and forget solution. With all of the above to call on it looks like the orcs will soon be scrabbling to get out of Ukraine. Present signs seem to be that they are starting to crack quite badly, morale falling apart. The Chechens and others within Russia don't want to go and units are refusing to fight and beginning to turn and leave seems to be the news stories coming in here. Good luck!
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This issue can’t be resolved by Russians making a “proclamation”
this war can only be decided by blood, and so it will be…
in a war of attrition
you need to withstand losses
as well as generate them…
Russia is primarily sacrificing its minorities
and killing several civilians for every Ukrainian military death
so they get the killing championship trophy in Ukraine
and at the same time, minimizing the punishment, by filling the military ranks with village boys from remote provinces
and these boys ain’t even Russian, they’re from past Russian conquests!!!
this is a very deliberate and calculated event from a domestic perspective
and maybe Russia miscalculated the foreign response
or maybe their plan is so TOTAL
that it NEEDS the West to isolate it
cuz…
PutinOnTheFritz
is making a new IRON CURTAIN that he’s gonna drop over Russia
and maybe Russia was the main target all along!!
meanwhile he has 20% of Ukraine’s territory!!!
BUT…
this is the CURRENT STATE of the war, look how much has changed in the past year
election year in Russia is 2024….
this will put PutinOnTheFritz under pressure to make major progress on this issue by then
and the current stalement, ain’t gonna cut it
meanwhile Ukraine is mobilizing and the USA has committed to provide Ukraine with EVERYTHING it need
I GUARANTEE you there will be Americans operating Reaper Drones in Ukraine, while communicating with a satellite link to New Mexico, while saying ONLY Ukrainians operate the drones!
Americans will test fire HellFire missiles against Russian tanks when they appear!!
just for the TRAINING it provides!
this reminds me of the time the USA flew high altitude high speed drones just over the North Vietnamese border into China!
hardly anybody knows about it cuz it happened a long time ago!
each side will soon start secret "microaggressions"
that are small manageable escalations of the war
and that goes on for awhile...
UNTIL....
KABOOM!!!!
creme of mushroom cloud soup
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Ukrainian troops have now started an offensive toward Izyum.
An orc BTG has just been destroyed in the Kherson region.
The orc 35th Army has been obliterated.
The "butchers of Bucha " the 64th Motorized Brigade, whom Putler honoured for their heroic work in raping and killing women and executing other civilians in Bucha, is now on it's knees with only around 12-15 of them still surviving and they're holed up in the Izyum region.
The master strategist rwd123 has gone a bit quiet lately. ;D
There are loads of British ex-servicemen now fighting for Ukraine.
Former Commando Ben Grant ,son of Tory MP Helen Grant, has just upset the Russians after he led a unit that killed a Chechen Commander in the Kharkiv region.
I know someone in Lviv,who's helping with the humanitarian aid there, and he says foreign fighters are flooding into Ukraine and the Ukrainian troops consider the Brit fighters as total nut jobs >:D
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This was an interesting read, though it has not proven accurate -
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/4/2102279/-A-Ukrainian-military-expert-confirms-much-of-the-analysis-you-ve-read-here-and-looks-to-the-future
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Don't worry Stirlitz the Foreign Legion consisting mainly of our Rambo's from the west has is already starting to turn the tide in Sievierodonetsk since they arrived there a day or so ago and will likely deliver that city back to you soon ;)
http://ukranews.com/en/news/861012-foreign-legion-enter-sievierodonetsk-to-help-afu-haidai
Already the Russian Army is suffering a reversal of its position there and suffering heavy losses and has once again been put back into retreat.
It's great to see you have produced some of your own stuff to knock out the Russian tanks, I was surprised how obsolete Russian tanks were dating back to the 1960s! The Javelins have the advantage of night vision I believe while the NLAWS are a quick fire and forget solution. With all of the above to call on it looks like the orcs will soon be scrabbling to get out of Ukraine. Present signs seem to be that they are starting to crack quite badly, morale falling apart. The Chechens and others within Russia don't want to go and units are refusing to fight and beginning to turn and leave seems to be the news stories coming in here. Good luck!
TC ,while i am sure the foreign.legion guys are greatly appreciated, you seem to be actively discrediting ukrainian armed forces and territorial defense forces.
They stopped and fundamentally neutralized a multi front complete invasion by the russian army and black sea fleet.
This is before any volunteer company showed up and they were facing mvd, helicoptor and paratrooper assualts, constant cruise missle strikes on airfields,supply depots and infrastructure , amphibious assaults, wagner mecernaries,(which includes modern jet aircraft) syrian and chechen mercenaries,etc etc.
They also have 100s of battalions that number 700 to1000 each.
Sorry a couple of companies of 100 foreign fighters or even a battalion or two ,is a drop in the bucket in the big picture.
I think the biggest help they give is in continued training of new ukrainian volunteers and training on the new weapons systems.
Ukraine had a lot of their own weapons, stugna vids are almost endless in how many out there of tanks,armoured vehicles and kamaz trucks they have hit.
The single largest russian loss in the war is the Moskva, without its AA AS, the entire game shifted the black sea.
That was done with neptunes
Lets give full credit where its due.
Russua bit off more than it could chew with just ukrainian forces,period,and ujrainex making them choke on it with their soldiers bravery.
The west is likely helping in jeeping the coubtry going ,funded ,as russias strongg point at present is cutting off exports thru the black sea.
They have a limited navy in the black sea and its getting smaller daily
Ships not sunk are damaged and will take years to repair.
The operations ships and subs are pulled at the fringe of engaement areas as they fear losing more.
Airsupport is minimum as they fear losing more planes.
Its hard to win an operation if you are scared to use the keys to advatages.
I hope ukraine takes out the port in sevestopol eventually.
Rusdua feared losing a shere of influence in the black sea. Now they will be lucky to hold what they once had,and will be a decade to build back up the ship count.
They should have spent these billions in a port in goergia republics that took,they might have retained thier black sea fleet
They are in danger of losing most if it
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TC ,while i am sure the foreign.legion guys are greatly appreciated, you seem to be actively discrediting ukrainian armed forces and territorial defense forces.
They stopped and fundamentally neutralized a multi front complete invasion by the russian army and black sea fleet.
This is before any volunteer company showed up and they were facing mvd, helicoptor and paratrooper assualts, constant cruise missle strikes on airfields,supply depots and infrastructure , amphibious assaults, wagner mecernaries,(which includes modern jet aircraft) syrian and chechen mercenaries,etc etc.
They also have 100s of battalions that number 700 to1000 each.
Sorry a couple of companies of 100 foreign fighters or even a battalion or two ,is a drop in the bucket in the big picture.
I think the biggest help they give is in continued training of new ukrainian volunteers and training on the new weapons systems.
Ukraine had a lot of their own weapons, stugna vids are almost endless in how many out there of tanks,armoured vehicles and kamaz trucks they have hit.
The single largest russian loss in the war is the Moskva, without its AA AS, the entire game shifted the black sea.
That was done with neptunes
Lets give full credit where its due.
Russua bit off more than it could chew with just ukrainian forces,period,and ujrainex making them choke on it with their soldiers bravery.
The west is likely helping in jeeping the coubtry going ,funded ,as russias strongg point at present is cutting off exports thru the black sea.
They have a limited navy in the black sea and its getting smaller daily
Ships not sunk are damaged and will take years to repair.
The operations ships and subs are pulled at the fringe of engaement areas as they fear losing more.
Airsupport is minimum as they fear losing more planes.
Its hard to win an operation if you are scared to use the keys to advatages.
I hope ukraine takes out the port in sevestopol eventually.
Rusdua feared losing a shere of influence in the black sea. Now they will be lucky to hold what they once had,and will be a decade to build back up the ship count.
They should have spent these billions in a port in goergia republics that took,they might have retained thier black sea fleet
They are in danger of losing most if it
Ukrainian forces have done well Jumper and I don't wish it to come across that they haven't had a large part to play in the success against Russian forces. I wouldn't however understate how a lot of success has occurred as a result of western intervention primarily from the UK but also some from the US ;)
The number of foreigners purported to have gone to Ukraine numbered as high as 20,000. How many are still there who knows but they went there early on within the first few days & weeks of the war, some before. While not all of them would have been ex-servicemen, trained or much ability on the battlefield, many probably most of them would have been since it tends to attract those types and less so of complete newbies to the war scene. So of those that are ex-servicemen types odds are most of them will have been trained up very well, some likely veterans having been a part of other theatres of war. On top of that a fair amount of them are likely to have been equipped with weapons and protective gear that are more advanced/expensive than the standard gear the Ukrainian soldier will likely have. Some of their gear will be long range sniper rifles capable of hitting targets from a long way away, others will likely have close range assault rifles, semi automatics with a lot of quick & heavy fire power. Of the more close combat troops some will likely be more on the SAS (probably your Navy Seals) special ops types or training close to it able to move quickly and change position quickly adept at storming through city terrain and taking the enemy by surprise.
Now we've past on a fair amount of training to Ukrainian forces over the years and they are no doubt deploying some of this. However, I'm pretty sure that behind the scenes there is a lot of direction going on from UK and possibly US military intelligence & command telling Ukrainian forces where to attack, when and how. They'll no doubt have surveillance from military satellites as to Russian troop movements as they unfold and through their military knowledge will know of the right strategies to deploy to hit the Russians at the right time to exact maximum damage.
I personally think that a lot of Ukrainian success has not only been down to of course themselves and Russian mistakes but also to the above foreign intervention and in addition to western weaponry they have received. Remember that weaponry wouldn't have been sent if it wasn't needed it would have been a pointless waste of money. I think to date a lot of the involvement of the Foreign Legion has likely been kept secluded but I'm pretty sure it's been there all along, around Kyiv, probably Kharkiv and elsewhere.
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Almost all experienced combat troops of the LPR and DPR are now either dead or wounded.
The rest are poorly equipped and untrained.
Serves the gangsters and traitors right.
Girkin is inconsolable ...hello darkness my old friend sums up his broadcasts perfectly,and he's not alone in his despair among the Putler ass-licking separatists >:D
This is what happens when you get in bed with the Devil.
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Many of the orcs are being killed by 18 years old former drones hobbyists who now spend their days hunting the orcs.
Regular drones outfitted to carry small anti-personnel munitions.
Most of their kills are unsuspecting orcs hiding in residential areas or tree groves.
Is that humiliating Russia too much for you Macron ?
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Dpr major general Roman kutuzov
(Formerly Russian 39th army chief of staff)
Was killed in donbas.
Story is he ordered the commanders of 1st and 100th motorized infantry to advance, they refused.
Being under pressure by his superiors to gain *something* he led the advance himself and was hit by artillery ,which is exactly what the commanders had said would occur.
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Team Biden has diddled and Ukrainians are paying the price
From CNN
US President Biden says he won't send rockets to Ukraine that could reach Russia
US President Joe Biden said he won't send rockets to Ukraine that could reach
Russia amid CNN reporting that the US is preparing to approve advanced,
long-range rocket systems for Ukraine. The Russians have warned the US
would “cross a red line” if it supplies the systems.
http://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-30-22/h_c3a8cf0d4d62d4b155d10c05b592c739
Doesn't Russia consider Donbass Russia?
Biden’s decision to boost Ukraine’s artillery took too long — and Ukraine
is paying the price
http://nypost.com/2022/06/02/bidens-decision-to-boost-ukraines-artillery-took-too-long-and-ukraine-is-paying-the-price/
Biden wrongly restricts Ukraine’s option to conduct counter-fires
President Biden cannot repeat President Lyndon Johnson’s mistake during
the Vietnam War — watching the North Vietnamese march soldiers and
equipment down the Ho Chi Min trail in Laos and Cambodia and doing
nothing about it until they entered South Vietnam.
Providing HIMARS to Ukraine is the right decision, but telling Zelensky their
use is restricted to “key targets on the battlefield in Ukraine” keeps his
soldiers and civilians in the kill zone with no means to retaliate. The option
to conduct counter-fires cannot be restricted.
http://thehill.com/opinion/international/3508919-biden-wrongly-restricts-ukraines-option-to-conduct-counter-fires/
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Team Biden undermining Ukraine says Russia's invasion of Ukraine will end through diplomacy
Ham-handed administration threatens unprecedented public support for Ukraine
Few major issues unite American public opinion, but the war in Ukraine does.
Yet the Biden administration’s inconsistent response, lack of planning and
poor messaging threaten American public support for Ukraine.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ham-handed-administration-threatens-unprecedented-public-support-for-ukraine/ar-AAY70Kk
Biden changes his mind after saying: ‘We’re not going to send to Ukraine rocket systems that strike into Russia’
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/06/01/biden-changes-his-mind-after-saying-were-not-going-to-send-to-ukraine-rocket-systems-that-strike-into-russia-1244805/
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Ukraine has already received the promised long-range rocket systems from the USA.
The systems supplied have a longer range than the MLRS the orcs have.
Ukraine has been supplied with four Batteries with more to follow.
It takes two to three weeks of training before the Ukrainian troops can start using them and they started training last week...so the orcs will start getting battered by them in one to two weeks time.
Here in the UK we're now gifting Ukraine M270 MLRS it was announced today. :)
One could say the trap has now been set to obliterate Putler's military in Ukraine.
The Donbas and Crimea are not recognised as Russian land by NATO,so they are open to attack from Ukraine.
Now to spring and close the trap.
All his remaining orc forces within Ukraine are now in the east and Kherson/Crimea regions,so they can now be targeted by the MLRS the USA and UK are supplying..on top of the long-range Howitzers the USA and France have already supplied...carnage will ensue >:D
Putler wanted genocide in Ukraine..he may well get his wish,but the genocide may well turn out to be of young Russian orcs.
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I'm not sure if the courage shown by the Ukrainians is in their nature or whether they're drawing it from their leader.
President Zelensky " The fight is here.I need ammunition,not a ride " has just been at the frontline.....near Lysychansk,west of Severodonetsk.
That area of Luhansk has seen heavy fighting around the clock in recent weeks.
He was briefed on the situation and handed out awards to soldiers.
He also made a similar visit to Soledar in the Donetsk region.
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oh William, yur so FUNNY with yur jokes about Buyden!
congress approved weapons to ukraine...
when Trump was in office he stipulated that Ukraine COULDN'T use the weapons
and they could only be stored for future use
and of course Trump was impeached when he COMPLETELY BLOCKED all military aid to Ukraine for several months until Ukraine could fabricate some scandal with Buyden's son
and let's not forget SOMEONE removed from the 2016 Republican platform document, a provision for arming Ukraine against Russian aggression
and also let's NOT FORGET the Republicans who voted against the legislation to arm Ukraine
and Fox Media's support of Putin over Buyden
of COURSE you wanna attack Buyden, while CLAIMING you dislike Putin
but in actuality, you support EVERYTHING that Putin represents
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Putin's demands leads to death of another Russian General.
Putin ordered Russian General Roman Kutuzov to complete the task by the end of the day, no matter what.
"In this regard, Kutuzov ordered the commanders of the 1st and 100th separate motorized rifle brigades to personally lead troops to storm the Ukrainian positions, but they refused to comply with the order, as they understood the risk to their lives," Tsymbaliuk said.
"Realizing what consequences he will face in case of failure to fulfill the task set by Putin, General Kutuzov decided to personally lead the offensive and was killed by artillery fire of the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
Kutuzov died near the village of Mykolaivka in the Popasna district of Luhansk Oblast. This settlement is located not far from the Bakhmut-Lysychansk highway, which Russian troops are trying to take control of to cut off part of the Ukrainian military units near Severodonetsk.
"When a general appears on the battlefield, this is, first of all, a managerial problem," military observer Denys Popovych earlier told Radio NV.
"This also happens in civilian life: when a top leader begins to manage the lower levels of enterprises, this indicates that either his orders are not being carried out, or the people who have to transmit these orders vertically are out, i.e. they do not work. Or they are not listened to either. That is, the gap between the links, between the highest and the lowest. This explains the appearance of Russian generals at the front."
In previous actions, Kutuzov did not spare his personnel and deliberately sent people to slaughter with an understanding of what the losses would be.
"Thanks to his attitude towards military personnel as 'cannon fodder,' the morale and psychological state of the personnel of the formations subordinate to him was extremely low, the commanders of regiments and companies did not want to lead their people into the attack and constantly sabotaged the command's offensive plans."
Ukrainian military sources reported: "Russian General Roman Kutuzov has been officially denazified and demilitarized."
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when Trump was in office he stipulated that Ukraine COULDN'T use the weapons
and they could only be stored for future use
Prove it, surely you have some evidence for that statement
and of course Trump was impeached when he COMPLETELY BLOCKED all military aid to Ukraine for several months until Ukraine could fabricate some scandal with Buyden's son
and let's not forget SOMEONE removed from the 2016 Republican platform document, a provision for arming Ukraine against Russian aggression
Wooooo Boy, do you have things upside down and backwards. Crack head Boy Biden
received $70-80K per month from being on a Ukrainian Energy board. The Crack
head knew zero Russian, zero Ukrainian and had zero experience in the Energy
sector. It was payola pure and simple.
VP Joe held back a billion in aid until they fired the prosecutor who was investigating
his crack head son. I posted a Youtube video of Joe bragging about it here on this
very forum.
and also let's NOT FORGET the Republicans who voted against the legislation to arm Ukraine
80% of the Republicans voted for the arms package
of COURSE you wanna attack Buyden, while CLAIMING you dislike Putin
but in actuality, you support EVERYTHING that Putin represents
That is an outright lie.
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“Prove it, surely you have some evidence for that statement “
but of course,
http://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/12/ukraine-us-missile-weapons-russia-480985
http://samm.dsca.mil/loanote/javelin-physical-security-and-accountability-plan
http://media.defense.gov/2020/Sep/01/2002488973/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2020-121_REDACTEDV1.PDF
“Wooooo Boy, do you have things upside down and backwards. Crack head Boy Biden
received $70-80K per month from being on a Ukrainian Energy board. The Crack
head knew zero Russian, zero Ukrainian and had zero experience in the Energy
sector. It was payola pure and simple. “
this is a pretty normal practice of companies who are raising money in the stock market
that’s WHY he was brought into this gas business, to help them sell stock
Hunter Biden was a political celebrity with a lot of connections
Even Sean Hannity from Fox News asked Hunter Biden to use his connections to get his daughter into an elite school
if you’re gonna get mad at Hunter Biden for doing this, the ALSO get mad at every sports celebrity who makes a commercial
someone cashing in just by famous and well connected
you’d have to include Trump and his kids, plus half of Hollywood, etc
look how many of Trump’s team were arrested and charged with crimes
and for Biden, ZERO
meanwhile, this week, we start a public congressional hearing about Trump’s second impeachment, you know the one about him overthrowing the election results and make himself president
“80% of the Republicans voted for the arms package”
yeah, the far right of the Republican party, the ones closest to Trump voted against it
pretty much people you’d vote for with no hesitation
and of course with nearly no democratic resistance to the bill
“That is an outright lie. “
Putin, is white supremest religious autocrat
you want to give the church the right to control ALL people’s lives, even those NOT of your faith
so what’s the difference….
Tell me you’re NOT prejudiced against other races…
so what’s the difference Beel?
which leader’s sentiments are closer to your own?
Biden’s or Putin’s?
c'mon man!
I know the answer to that question and so do you
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“Prove it, surely you have some evidence for that statement “
but of course,
http://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/12/ukraine-us-missile-weapons-russia-480985
http://samm.dsca.mil/loanote/javelin-physical-security-and-accountability-plan
http://media.defense.gov/2020/Sep/01/2002488973/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2020-121_REDACTEDV1.PDF
Quote from your first article
"Washington urges Kyiv to use the Javelins only for defensive purposes and
requires that the weapons be stored in a secure facility away from the conflict,
there are no geographic restrictions on the actual deployment of the missiles,
U.S. officials said, which means that Ukrainian forces can transport, distribute
and use them at any time."
Your second article requires that the Jav missiles be kept in a secure location
so they don't get stolen. Do you read your own links? I do.
Your third article is more of the same. None of your backup says that Ukrainians
can't deploy Javelin missiles anywhere in Ukraine. ALL the articles were about
keeping the missiles secure and to keep track of them. Ukrainians in the past
have been known to steal things and divert military good to others for money.
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Putin, is white supremest religious autocrat
you want to give the church the right to control ALL people’s lives, even those NOT of your faith
so what’s the difference….
Tell me you’re NOT prejudiced against other races…
so what’s the difference Beel?
which leader’s sentiments are closer to your own?
Biden’s or Putin’s?
c'mon man!
I know the answer to that question and so do you
I am NOT prejudiced against other races.
I am closer to Biden sentiments than to Putin's.
Biden is a F#ck up but Putin is far more so.
I do not want any church to control peoples lives.
All your accusations against me are pure fantasy.
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here ya go
http://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-leaving-out-key-detail-trump-javelin-sale-to-ukraine-2019-11
are you pro-choice then?
or do you prefer the church to decide what abortion rights there are?
trust me TALL WHITE MAN, you ain't EVEN CLOSE to being a subject I fantasize about!!!
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are you pro-choice then?
or do you prefer the church to decide what abortion rights there are?
A false dilemma is a logical fallacy that presents only two options or sides
when there are many options or sides.
trust me TALL WHITE MAN, you ain't EVEN CLOSE to being a subject I fantasize about!!!
I am glad, but that doesn't make your accusations any more credible.
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Quote from your first article
"Washington urges Kyiv to use the Javelins only for defensive purposes and requires that the weapons be stored in a secure facility away from the conflict, there are no geographic restrictions on the actual deployment of the missiles, U.S. officials said, which means that Ukrainian forces can transport, distribute
and use them at any time."
Your second article requires that the Jav missiles be kept in a secure location so they don't get stolen. Do you read your own links? I do.
Your third article is more of the same. None of your backup says that Ukrainians can't deploy Javelin missiles anywhere in Ukraine. ALL the articles were about keeping the missiles secure and to keep track of them. Ukrainians in the past have been known to steal things and divert military good to others for money.
That's not exactly accurate. Ukraine had to store the Javelins (delivered during the Trump administration) in Western Ukraine. They were not to be used in Donbas, which is where the fighting was occurring. They could only be used as a deterrent, which means, not at all.
Trump also froze a $400 million military package approved by Congress until Zelensky delivered dirt on Hunter Biden. That was reversed thanks to a whistleblower.
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Putin, is white supremest religious autocrat
I don't believe Putin is religious.
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Another Russian Lt .general, in command of the 49th army currently occupying kherson oblast ,was killed today.
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I don't believe Putin is religious.
No,but he is sure to get Kirrils approval and blessing in everything.
How much do you thibk the ukrainian orthodoxy seperating from kirrils orbit in 2019 effected this?
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Nearly all politicians who USE religion, are themselves non-religious
Trump and Putin are both good examples
however, they will both invoke religious icons to manipulate the public
this is what I refer to
to be a politician with appeal to the lowest common denominator of uneducated, ignorant people
ya gotta be sellin’ them some of that “opiate of the masses”
these people are all primed to be believe in nonsense, because according to Marx, they NEED TO!
You should read the whole paragraph that contains that famous quote
It reads better in its original German, but even in Englisch the idea is quite clear
Putin and Trump take advantage of these people
and become the architect of their ruin
while pinning the blame on “enemies”
Beel,
any limit YOU would place on a woman’s reproductive freedom
with anyone OTHER THAN HERSELF making ALL the decisions
would be an infringement on her reproductive rights
your religious beliefs
promote and tolerate social inequalities resulting from the differences inherent in the class structures of the status quo
hey you guys wanna see my Karl Marx Achievement medal?
yes, it's FREAKIN' REAL!!!
shown next to Soviet era 1 Ruble coin
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There is a twitter account that goes by the name of Dmitri UA ( @mdmitri91 )
He's an Estonian living in London and specializes in translating phone calls from Russian soldiers intercepted by the GUR and SBU.
Within the last 24 hours he put up a phone call between a named Russian soldier ( Konstantin Solovyev who is currently in Kharkiv Oblast ) and his mother regarding the treatment of Ukrainian POW's and civilians by the FSB and Russian troops.
I'm not going into the gory details on here...suffice to say the treatment of prisoners by the Russians is abhorrent....and the mindset,character and morals of their families in Russia is no better.
This is one example among hundreds of such phone calls that have been intercepted.
If you want to read it for yourself just google Dmitri on twitter.
The Russian forces and FSB in Ukraine need to be exterminated...they are totally depraved and less than human.
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Just been watching part 3 of the James Vasquez interview on Speak The Truth on youtube.
This is the USA volunteer fighter the orcs claimed to have killed twice in Ukraine....but they lied as they do ALL the time.
He's back in the USA now,but he's selling everything,including his home,and going back to Ukraine until the war ends and then he's going to help rebuild the country.
He was talking about a raid him and his team of 12 made in May in the Donetsk region.
The raid was,he later found out,on an elite Siberian platoon...who just ran and left all their equipment behind....the capture of which was all filmed and put out there.
The interviewer was rather perplexed that they'd just ran and asked why ?
The answer was "Well they're not there to meet guys like us..they're there to find and destroy civilian areas and kill civilians .The last thing they want to do is meet guys like us ".
Let that sink in...and hopefully you're as shocked as the interviewer was.
Putler , his Kremlin cronies,and his Russian state tv staff need putting down ...and not humanely.
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Another Russian Lt .general, in command of the 49th army currently occupying kherson oblast ,was killed today.
Lieutenant General Roman Berdnikov, commander of the Russian Federation’s 29th Army, was killed in Ukraine this morning (June 6, 2022) near Severodonetsk, making him Russia’s highest-ranking general killed.
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The Institute for the study of War says Kremlin's efforts to censor information about deceased troops exacerbates domestic tensions .
Well in the spirit of full disclosure i can inform those Russians experiencing rising social tensions that as of today 31,500 Russian orcs have been killed in Ukraine.
I suspect the target aimed for is 100,000 by the end of the year.
No doubt the incoming long-range MLRS death-dealers Ukraine is now receiving,which outrange your systems, will increase the momentum of dead Russian orcs littering Ukraine's land.
Of course the way to stop it is to depose your deranged President and his Kremlin.
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Looks like the Britons captured in Mariupol could be up for being executed by Russia:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/07/pro-russia-officials-open-trial-against-britons-captured-fighting-in-ukraine
Russia is claiming they are mercenaries and so not subject to rules for enemy nation troops. My guess is that Russia may execute them to try and dissuade foreigners from joining the fight with Ukraine. One of them is kind of Muslim decent my guess would be, he had a fiance in Ukraine the other had a wife. Think the one with the wife they may have interviewed him before the invasion.
Here Boris has survived a no confidence vote over the drinks at No.10. Though it looks like it may have just been used by closet Remainers like Jeremy Hunt to oust pro Brexit Boris. Zelensky seemed grateful Boris had survived the vote as his been a great ally to Ukraine and to be honest I would be doubtful if any other potential candidate in the Tory party would show anywhere near the support Boris had, possibly one or two might but much an unknown quantity.
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I'm not sure if the courage shown by the Ukrainians is in their nature or whether they're drawing it from their leader.
If you check their history, Ukrainians are widely recognized for their bravery
in Battle.
Ukrainians Have Been Defying Foreign Invaders for a Thousand Years.
Their Courage Is No Surprise
http://fee.org/articles/ukrainians-have-been-defying-foreign-invaders-for-a-thousand-years-their-courage-is-no-surprise/
You can research the Crimean war and many others.
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If you check their history, Ukrainians are widely recognized for their bravery
in Battle.
Ukrainians Have Been Defying Foreign Invaders for a Thousand Years.
Their Courage Is No Surprise
http://fee.org/articles/ukrainians-have-been-defying-foreign-invaders-for-a-thousand-years-their-courage-is-no-surprise/ (http://fee.org/articles/ukrainians-have-been-defying-foreign-invaders-for-a-thousand-years-their-courage-is-no-surprise/)
You can research the Crimean war and many others.
Yes i know all that.
However, the Brits were brave right through our history too..i'm not convinced we would be if Russia invaded us now though.
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Zagorsk Optical plant near Moscow is now on fire. >:D
They make ( made ? ) various optics for the orc military.
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Orcs filmed by locals now having to leave Melitopol to try and strengthen their Kherson frontlines where their situation is rapidly deteriorating under Ukrainian troops offensive and air strikes.
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However, the Brits were brave right through our history too..i'm not convinced we would be if Russia invaded us now though.
You can't even get there from here (Russia). They would have to drive through
Ukraine (let me know how that goes) then Poland, Germany, France. My guess
is they probably lose the element of surprise. ;D
I imagine they would find at least 2 million Scots drawing lots to be first in
line when they came out of the Channel Tunnel (assuming it didn't spring a leak).
(http://scliving.coop/downloads/3643/download/bagpipers.png?cb=226ac9e04324a2fc9af14581e23c617b)
Little known fact: The last known Scotsman who went out of his way to avoid
a fight was Ewan Angus* in 1846.
*It was later learned he was only 10% Scot and he lived that
day forward with an asterisk by his name.
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:-[
http://youtu.be/PezdnpMrItY
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Orcs filmed by locals now having to leave Melitopol to try and strengthen their Kherson frontlines where their situation is rapidly deteriorating under Ukrainian troops offensive and air strikes.
You need ammunition to do that. Oh wait...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/were-almost-out-of-ammunition-and-relying-on-western-arms-says-ukraine
Maybe you're just salty that some fellow Brits are about to cop death by firing squad.
(FWIW I oppose capital punishment)
This channel has fairly balanced analysis.
http://youtu.be/_OPk2nUK7q8
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Just for you.
Up to 300 Wagner terrorists working for Putler were killed yesterday when Ukraine forces struck their base in Kadiivka,.Luhansk region..just one survivor.
Apparently their screams could be heard for up to an hour after the strike...according to locals.
Looks like Ukraine had ammo for that artillery strike eh ?
There's film out there of the post-strike fire..unlike you i only post verified news .
I suggest you stop looking at pro-Russian youtube and Russian propoganda sites for your info...you might appear less clueless then.
How's your Ukraine will fall in a couple of days prediction working out for you ? :rolleyes:
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Up to 300 Wagner terrorists working for Putler were killed yesterday when Ukraine forces struck their base in Kadiivka,.Luhansk region..just one survivor.
Apparently their screams could be heard for up to an hour after the strike...according to locals.
Looks like Ukraine had ammo for that artillery strike eh ?
There's film out there of the post-strike fire..unlike you i only post verified news .
OK . . . so where is reference to your 'verified' news. I can't find anything about this on the Internet.
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Here you go.
http://english.nv.ua/nation/ukraine-s-army-destroys-wagner-mercenaries-base-in-occupied-kadiivka-50248912.html
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OK . . . so where is reference to your 'verified' news. I can't find anything about this on the Internet.
Do you need your hand holding to find out anything all the time ?
Just google Wagner's killed in Kadiivka..there's ten sources on the first page alone..some showing the aftermath of the strike on film.
It really isn't difficult.
Different sources do say different numbers were killed...which is why i said UP TO 300.
According to Telegram channels associated with the Wagner Group between 150-300 were killed in the attack.
As i said..."verified".
rwd123 has gone quiet again i see...i reckon i must have ruined his weekend ; )))
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You need ammunition to do that. Oh wait...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/were-almost-out-of-ammunition-and-relying-on-western-arms-says-ukraine (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/were-almost-out-of-ammunition-and-relying-on-western-arms-says-ukraine)
Maybe you're just salty that some fellow Brits are about to cop death by firing squad.
You do realize that's all for show, correct?
Those Brits are part of the Ukrainian armed forces, and therefore, are entitled to protections under the Geneva Convention.
Personally, were I Boris Johnson, I would be stating that if my nationals are illegally executed, UK bombers will be levelling Donetsk, but then, I have that hot running Slavic blood.
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Do you need your hand holding to find out anything all the time ?
Just google Wagner's killed in Kadiivka..there's ten sources on the first page alone..some showing the aftermath of the strike on film.
I did google and found nothing.
I find a lot on google for other items I search for, but rarely find anything about what you post.
So yes, I do need hand holding for your references.
I find it difficult to understand why you spend time writing about what you have read, and then won't spend 15 seconds to copy and post the URL for your story like most of the rest do here.
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You do realize that's all for show, correct?
Of course it was a sham trial, and any execution would need to be signed off by the Kremlin. Having tortured and executed Russian prisoners AND FILMING IT was probably not a great idea! Hard to know if they're now going to be used as political bargaining chips or sacrificial lambs for an 'eye for an eye'.
The UK cannot flatten Donetsk unless it wants to be flattened itself. Those behind the scenes in the UK understand these guys are expendable and useful for UK's own propaganda campaign.
CB - are you so far brainwashed that anything that you disagree with is pro-Russian? I am for peace and for truth. It's not presented in MSM, either in the West or in Russia.
You do realize Ukraine, according to Zelensky, is losing men at a rate of 15-20,000 a month (injured, captured, KIA)? The Ukrainian government is refusing to share intel (i.e. fatality statistics) with the US government because it is probably worse than that.
http://archive.ph/UOg9d
I don't trust any news report and will wait at least seven days to see if it is verifiable. Seven weeks is better. A classic example is the (unverified) claims of rape by Russian soldiers, the leveraged used to gain military support, and the subsequent firing of the Denisova. Even the reporting of the known facts had to be corrected:
http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ousted-ukrainian-official-breaks-silence-admits-she-lied-about-mass-rape-russians
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ML,
I alert people on here to up to date news,often before it's put out there for the masses,which doesn't come from propagandists but from factual sources.
Now,anybody who wants to read more about said news should have the wherewithal to do a simple search and find it sometime within the next 24 hours....as Bo did on this particular news item.
After reading your post i assumed the news hadn't reached the masses .but after typing the words " Wagner's killed in Kadiivka "into a simple google search i was astonished to see all the news sources available at the time you made that post.
You didn't look very hard before questioning me did you ?
But then i remember you had the same issues when posters on here were making donations to the Armed Forces of Ukraine through the National Bank of Ukraine.It was straightforward for everyone except you...you had to complicate it.
If you can't be bothered doing a simple google search,then i sure as hell can't be bothered copy and pasting links for you if it's even available to copy and paste at that particular time.
But hey,as it's soooo difficult for you to find anything about the news i post i won't bother anymore. :)
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Of course it was a sham trial, and any execution would need to be signed off by the Kremlin. Having tortured and executed Russian prisoners AND FILMING IT was probably not a great idea! Hard to know if they're now going to be used as political bargaining chips or sacrificial lambs for an 'eye for an eye'.
The UK cannot flatten Donetsk unless it wants to be flattened itself. Those behind the scenes in the UK understand these guys are expendable and useful for UK's own propaganda campaign.
CB - are you so far brainwashed that anything that you disagree with is pro-Russian? I am for peace and for truth. It's not presented in MSM, either in the West or in Russia.
You do realize Ukraine, according to Zelensky, is losing men at a rate of 15-20,000 a month (injured, captured, KIA)? The Ukrainian government is refusing to share intel (i.e. fatality statistics) with the US government because it is probably worse than that.
http://archive.ph/UOg9d (http://archive.ph/UOg9d)
I don't trust any news report and will wait at least seven days to see if it is verifiable. Seven weeks is better. A classic example is the (unverified) claims of rape by Russian soldiers, the leveraged used to gain military support, and the subsequent firing of the Denisova. Even the reporting of the known facts had to be corrected:
http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ousted-ukrainian-official-breaks-silence-admits-she-lied-about-mass-rape-russians (http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ousted-ukrainian-official-breaks-silence-admits-she-lied-about-mass-rape-russians)
When did these two Brits torture and execute Russian prisoners and film it ?
Do you have proof of this claim ?
At least Zelensky gives figures out for losses which Putler is clearly terrified to do..so what does that tell you about the orcs losses ?
When was the last time the Kremlin dared to tell it's people the losses their military is incurring ?
I'll tell you,,it was back on March 25th when they claimed they had lost 1,351 troops.
Wonder what they're hiding ?
Hmmmm ?
The orcs have been forced to raise their Military recruitment age to accept grandads ...that's how desperate they're becoming...as well as having to send ancient T-62 Tanks to the frontline.
The Pentagon claims the orcs have lost over a thousand Tanks alone...
Ukraine will continue to get new arms shipments from the West..whilst Russia is running out of modern equipment.
As for the unverified claims of rape..well the first orc has now been charged with killing a Ukrainian civilian and raping the mans wife in Brovarsky ( Kyiv region ) .
The charmer goes by the name of Mikhail Romanov...so you can follow his trial.
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When did these two Brits torture and execute Russian prisoners and film it ?
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At least Zelensky gives figures out for losses
My comment was in reference to Ukrainian war crimes, not specifically the foreigners in question.
Apparently the Ukrainian government previously significantly understated the losses (by a factor of 2-3x), according to a Ukrainian government source:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61742736
Further commentary on losses (staggering numbers if true), time will tell the scale of the catastrophe:
http://youtu.be/UZSaJa1Uc8Q
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My comment was in reference to Ukrainian war crimes, not specifically the foreigners in question.
Apparently the Ukrainian government previously significantly understated the losses (by a factor of 2-3x), according to a Ukrainian government source:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61742736 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61742736)
Further commentary on losses (staggering numbers if true), time will tell the scale of the catastrophe:
and what about the Russians not releasing any details of their losses since March 25th ?
No comment ?
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and what about the Russians not releasing any details of their losses since March 25th ?
Ukraine isn't sharing this info with US Intel. That's different to public statements. As per the video the current losses and MIA may be 100,000+.
I have no idea but it appears the Russian casualty rate is lower than the first month. Russia has control of the airs and up to 20x more artillery so is unlikely to be at the same rate as the Ukrainians. Ukraine will not win a war of attrition.
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Of course it was a sham trial, and any execution would need to be signed off by the Kremlin. Having tortured and executed Russian prisoners AND FILMING IT was probably not a great idea! Hard to know if they're now going to be used as political bargaining chips or sacrificial lambs for an 'eye for an eye'.
Those Brits were not filmed executing Russian prisoners. Nor am I aware of any such footage. Please link to any credible (meaning non Russian) source of such information.
The UK cannot flatten Donetsk unless it wants to be flattened itself. Those behind the scenes in the UK understand these guys are expendable and useful for UK's own propaganda campaign.
HAHAHA. Do you truly believe Russia cares one iota for the citizens of Donbas? They intend to create a frozen conflict in this region, because a successful Ukraine (which is a looooong way in the future) is a threat to Russia's kleptocratic plutocrats.
You do realize Ukraine, according to Zelensky, is losing men at a rate of 15-20,000 a month (injured, captured, KIA)? The Ukrainian government is refusing to share intel (i.e. fatality statistics) with the US government because it is probably worse than that.
No, Ukraine isn't sharing any such information because of concerns it will fall into Russian hands. That's why a lot of their information is tightly controlled. That's also how they are able to locate Russian spies within their ranks.
US estimates are that Ukraine's total casualties are approximately the same as Russia's. The difference is, Ukrainians are willing to die for their cause. Russians are not that committed.
I don't trust any news report and will wait at least seven days to see if it is verifiable. Seven weeks is better. A classic example is the (unverified) claims of rape by Russian soldiers, the leveraged used to gain military support, and the subsequent firing of the Denisova. Even the reporting of the known facts had to be corrected:
http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ousted-ukrainian-official-breaks-silence-admits-she-lied-about-mass-rape-russians (http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ousted-ukrainian-official-breaks-silence-admits-she-lied-about-mass-rape-russians)
You don't trust any sources, then quote an alt right website known for conspiracy theories and pro Russian propaganda. :rolleyes:
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Now,anybody who wants to read more about said news should have the wherewithal to do a simple search and find it sometime within the next 24 hours....as Bo did on this particular news item.
You didn't look very hard before questioning me did you ?
If you can't be bothered doing a simple google search, then i sure as hell can't be bothered copy and pasting links for you if it's even available to copy and paste at that particular time.
I already posted that I DID do not only a simple search, but an EXTENSIVE search on google.
So I did LOOK VERY HARD before making my request to you for the URL.
Now it is true that BOE found links that I could not find.
I cannot explain that as I am able to find much info on a daily basis via google and other search engines for other items I am looking for.
And it is NOT a bother for you to cut and paste links.
You are right at the site. The copy and paste takes less than 5 seconds to do.
There is some other reason you continually refuse to help your fellow posters here to quickly get to the full info you are providing a summary of.
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Ukraine isn't sharing this info with US Intel. That's different to public statements. As per the video the current losses and MIA may be 100,000+.
I have no idea but it appears the Russian casualty rate is lower than the first month. Russia has control of the airs and up to 20x more artillery so is unlikely to be at the same rate as the Ukrainians. Ukraine will not win a war of attrition.
Actually Russia doesn't have control of the airs.
In it's daily report from Ukraine the UK Ministry of Defence posted this today.
"Since April Russian medium bombers have likely launched dozens of 1960's era
kh22 air-launched heavy anti-ship missiles against land targets.
They are highly inaccurate and can therefore cause significant collateral damage and civilian casualties."
As i posted yesterday ..the orcs are running out of modern firepower...smart aren't i ? ;D
"Russia is likely resorting to such inefficient weapon systems because it is running short of more precise modern missiles ,while Ukrainian air defences still deter it's tactical aircraft from conducting strikes across much of the country "
Nope no Russian control of the airs either.
Not looking too good for your heroes is it ?
Still no update since March 25th from the Kremlin on their losses i see .
You may want to stop filling your head full of pro-Russian propaganda and take a reality check. :popcorn:
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I see Zelensky is now predicting 40,000 dead orcs by July.
Hang-on..i thought Ukraine was running out of ammo ?
One must assume his meeting with Ben Wallace was very productive then :)
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Ukraine will not win a war of attrition.
Make no mistake, Ukraine WILL win this war. I mean we will liberate all territories occupied since 2014. Perhaps even since 1918. It is solely a matter of time. However much grit the Nazis like Scholz put there.
The only question is at what cost. How many lives will have to be sacrificed. It’s been already 10,000 military and uncounted tens of thousands civilians. Official estimates put the death toll in Mariupol at 20,000 but it could be between 50,000 and 100,000. A city of half a million once. Even when we liberate it we will never know the truth as the Russian incinerate bodies and remove rubble along with them. Can you imagine an entire city being simply wiped out in Europe along with the buildings and inhabitants in a brutal and careless matter? And it’s still okay with some people and politicians.
If we get enough supplies (first of all heavy weaponry and ammunition) promptly, the war will have been won by the end of this year.
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I think apart from any immediate resupplying of present arsenal of weapons the main thing will be the wait for the long range mobile multiple rocket launchers the UK & US have promised to send Ukraine. Apparently Ukrainian troops are to be trained in the UK on them and from what I gather whilst that is happening the multiple rocket launchers are being sent to Ukraine. So how long the training and the delivery will take who knows but my guess would be that it is in motion already and so hopefully won't take too long, pretty much every day that passes is significant.
It looks like Russia is repeating what they did in Mariupol in Severodonetsk so basically pounding the life out of a city with artillery thereby destroying all possible threat then moving on to the next city and repeating the same. My guess is that the Russians have shorter lines of supply and can protect their flanks easier in the Donbas and can move forward more easily.
So getting those long range multiple rocket launchers will be crucial in taking out Russia's artillery to reduce the ability of the Russians to pound a city into oblivion. For the moment it's really a case of Ukraine holding on in Severodonetsk for as long as possible and hope the long range multiple rocket launchers arrive in time to avoid being pushed out. There's also a possibility that the Russians may exhaust themselves in Severodonetsk if they keep up the present pace of the bombardment and assault upon the city. They'll be using a lot of shells and odds are losing more tanks and soldiers along the way. They've lost a lot of soldiers and tanks already and have shelled a lot so can probably only carry on so long. They're called up real old tanks now from the early 1960s so soon they will start to lose strength on the battlefield by no longer having much in the way of decent tanks to field. That only leaves their artillery left, they lose that and their conventional warfare will be largely at an end, so just a question of holding on.
We lost one of our Rambo's in Severodonetsk recently but no doubt many more there. It's further evidence to support sports that the Foreign Legion is there helping to keep the orcs from over running the city. My guess is that Ukraine can hold on there but it may still be a while before the multiple rocket launchers arrive and can turn around the situation there.
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Most of the foreign fighters are embedded within Ukrainian units, and are part of the Ukrainian army. They are entitled to all the protections afforded Ukrainian soldiers.
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currently, Ukraine has set aside a large portion of its manpower reserves to train with new NATO weapons
they will likely be deployed by September with the portion of weapons they stockpiled instead of being sent to the "front"
Russia, without the appropriate Reservist counter-force (done deliberately)
will leave Putin with no choice but to use tactical nuclear weapons to prevent destruction of Russian military forces and complete military and political defeat
he's planning on doing this AFTER Ukraine fields it reserves and forms it into an offensive
Putin wants to completely wipe them and Ukraine out completely
so it's convieniant to have them all group together in the East and South, instead of being scattered all over Western Ukraine in training camps
Putin will escalate the nuclear conflict, which Ukraine can't respond to, and neither can NATO, as long as they're not effected
step 1: Remote atmospheric test
Least provocative would be Putin’s resumption of above-ground nuclear testing — by detonating a low-yield nuclear warhead high above Novaya Zemlya, the old Soviet test site in the Arctic, for example. While both the actual damage on the ground and radioactive fallout would be negligible, the psychological effect could be enormous: It would be the first nuclear explosion by a superpower since nuclear testing ended in 1992, and the first bomb detonated in the atmosphere by either the U.S. or Russia after such tests were outlawed by treaty in 1963. It would also be a potent reminder that Putin has tactical nuclear weapons in abundance — about 2,000 by last count — and is prepared to use them.
step 2: Atmospheric detonation above Ukraine
A more provocative demonstration would be an ultra-high-altitude explosion of a more powerful weapon over Ukraine itself. In a 1962 test, the U.S. detonated a 1.4-megaton H-bomb in the mid-Pacific, 250 miles above the Earth. The resulting electromagnetic pulse unexpectedly knocked out streetlights and disrupted telephone service in Hawaii, 900 miles distant. A similarly powerful EMP bomb above Kyiv would not only be visually spectacular but would likely plunge most of Ukraine into prolonged darkness and silence by shorting out computers, cellphones and other electronics.
step 3: use of small Nuetron Bombs directly on the battlefied in the East and South
Iskanders will be the preferred delivery platform, it's why he's held some back in reserve for this purpose...
so my guess is that this'll start happening in the fall, and maybe be overwith by next spring after surrender
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Regarding Nukes one will have noticed the USA has gone a bit quiet lately regarding what's going on in Ukraine and the weapons shipments being sent.
The UK has also gone quiet following Ben Wallace's frank meeting with President Zelensky regarding what we'll be providing to Ukraine.
I have on good authority there is a VERY good reason for this.
Suffice to say if Putler uses Nukes in Ukraine he's in for a VERY nasty shock >:D
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your idea about the USA/UK transferring nukes to Ukraine would make a good skit for a Benny Hill Show!!
cuz, that’d be the ONLY place that’d ever happen!!
but at least there will be a chorus line of dancing girls with Benny Hill ogling them, like he was Trench at a Ukrainian model convention
Soviets were technically equal to the USA in nuclear weapons by 1955
their advantage over the USA was ‘scale” the Soviet Nuclear Weapons Program was HUGE!!
tens of thousands of the brightest engineers and scientists from 13 Soviet Socialist Republics
coupled with unlimited resources, their own mines, factories, military bases, power plants
see http://web.archive.org/web/20170519101448/http://russianforces.org/blog/2012/10/interesting_document_on_soviet.shtml
The first Soviet tactical nuclear weapon was the RDS-4, unveiled in 1953!!!
It used a composite core of 4.2kg Pu-239 and 6.8kg 90% enriched U-235 and had a nominal yield of 30 kilotons. Total bomb weight was about 1000 kg
later in the year, they tested the RDS-5, the first “hollow core” implosion device with improved explosive lens
the important feature of this device was the introduction of tellurium-120 to create a low yield device with only 2 kg of plutonium!!!! and because of the low amount of plutonium used, it created less fallout
and this is 1953!!!
this type of bomb turned into an EMP bomb (by just removing all shielding)
if detonated at 100,000 feet or so, could “knock out” ¼ of Ukraine ‘s electrical grid in a flash
and not do serious damage outside of Ukraine
while Russians have warning and can protect their systems ahead of time
so imagine Ukraine
with no drones
no communications
no electricity
no working high tech missile launchers
no working radar
and on and on
yet not a single window would be broken
not a single direct casualty
THEN
the russians attack, having all the things the Ukrainians don’t
don't you SEE this path down the mountain side?
the odds would QUICKLY shift to Russia's favor
and if they need to escalate one more step by using ground attack
then the West would have ALREADY ACCEPTED TWO nuclear escalations, and so would be likely to acceept one more
but I think they won't have to do this after an EMP attack on Ukraine, just hold on for a year until EVERYTHING COLLAPSES in Ukraine
and it'll scare EVERYBODY ELSE
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I didn't read that post as suggesting the West would arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons. But they may very well be willing to respond to a nuclear attack on European soil.
I think, krimster, that you give far, far too much credence to Soviet scientists. The better half says Soviet intellectual life was dead. Anything worth producing was stolen from the Germans (or later, the West), or was created mostly by scientists educated before the USSR took over education. He was in the navy. He told me of a piece of equipment on his ship, that was Soviet built, but based on a stolen American blueprint. The equipment was having issues, and he was asked to look at it. That was how he learned it was based on an American blueprint. However, the Soviets had put some parts in backwards, and one part was missing completely. The better half was able to fix the equipment by improvising a part from the original blueprint, much to the bewilderment of the chief engineer, who could not figure out how this piece of equipment could now function. The BH says he had countless of such examples.
Don't assume, that, just because there were tens of thousands of scientists, that they were all capable of producing anything. The vast majority could not, because education was so politicized.
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that's both true and false at the same time
there was some amazing talents in the CCCP
in some places, including nuclear weapons design, they eventually stopped copying US designs and did their own
but would still steal whenver they could...
they are STILL the world leader in centrifuge enrichment
their scale in the WMD related industries, were much larger than any western program
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there was some amazing talents in the CCCP in some places,
Especially with railroad toilets.
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With Putler's recent interview in which he says it's his destiny to reclaim land that Russia lost after the break-up of the Soviet Union there is now no ambiguity in what lays ahead if Ukraine falls...a victorious raping and pillaging army won't just stop they'll keep advancing west.
No European country will be safe from the ravaging orc horde as far west as Germany..let's not forget Eastern Germany belonged to Russia and it's well known how partial to raping German women the orcs are...it's in their DNA.
Hopefully this will now stir Scholz into action rather than words regarding arming Ukraine with many heavy weapons.
I suspect if Putler takes Germany then he'll go for the rest of Europe.Bombing the UK would be his MO i suspect,hence why he keeps testing our air defences with his bombers.
Now Americans in there comfort zone may think "not our problem..no need for us to get involved",just as they did during WW2 until Pearl Harbour.but imagine how isolated the USA will be if Europe falls to Putler...he may well fancy reclaiming Alaska too.
Putler wants a new world order which doesn't include democracy...
China is becoming more bellicose by the week regarding Taiwan...so before you know where you are you could have Russia , China , North Korea,Syria and Iran lining up against you with your only remaining allies being Japan,Canada and Australia.
NATO needs to ensure Putler is beaten with his military destroyed in Ukraine...any sign of weakness and there will be no limit to the ambitions of Russia and China .
Financial sanctions against Russia ain't working..undermined by the money still being pumped into Russia for oil and gas,$97 billion since the start of the war,so they have to be stopped militarily, including with nukes if it comes to that.
Let no-one be under any illusions here...we are ALL on the edge of the precipice now.
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A lotta low-end shack villages for poor Russians are prevalent in the Russian Far East…
these predominantly STILL have outdoor squat toilettes
I call ‘em “Squatter Camps” LOL!!
a long time ago, my wife had to show me “the proper way” to use a Russian Squat toilette
cuz, hell I ended up doing a “partial load” in my underwear!! GROSS!!
a Russian squat toilette is a hole in the ground, surrounded by a ring of rocks
there is usually a wooden box nearby, with a stack of torn newspapers on top, held under a rock
how can you improve on the perfection of the last two centuries of locally developed toilette technology
everyone in Russia is used to this way, why change it?
let's instead devote all our resources to Rockets and Atomics, horrosho tovarisch?
and SO THEY DID!!!! AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY DIG ABOUT THEM!!
hell yeah!
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Most of the foreign fighters are embedded within Ukrainian units, and are part of the Ukrainian army. They are entitled to all the protections afforded Ukrainian soldiers.
Article just out on this shedding some light on what happens to most of the foreign fighters that volunteer to fight for Ukraine:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-3-000-british-volunteers-fighting-on-ukrainian-side-against-russia-says-georgian-commander-12633139
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No,but he is sure to get Kirrils approval and blessing in everything.
How much do you thibk the ukrainian orthodoxy seperating from kirrils orbit in 2019 effected this?
I don't think it had any effect.
The first divisions of the church were in the early 1990's, in the years after the collapse of the USSR. People came to blows on the streets in Ukraine. I think Alexei calmed a lot of things. He was probably more pragmatic. Kiril is, IMHO, a lousy patriarch. He's been caught up in scandals, selling goods illegally. Not very "other worldly" behaviour. So, I think he is easily blackmailed. I'd be wanting to separate from a church led by him as well.
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Recent article on the situation of military aid given to Ukraine:
BBC News - Inside the room where Ukraine orders arms from the West
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61816337
Apparently Ukraine has also spent double the money they raised in tax to military spending of recent. Biden is about to spend a few more $bn to military aid, armaments to Ukraine. Ukraine must have used a lot of ammunition and gear as they reckon they are getting close to a shortage now. Russia has apparently gotten a lot more men but questions remain as to them being able to hold it together. To me I wonder how long the Russians can keep it up, I'm guessing they are getting continual supplies of ammunition even if they are using real old armaments.
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The huge problem Ukraine has is that they can't store any weapons or ammo in Ukraine.
Whenever they try a pro-Russian spy/collaborator/traitor tells the orcs where it is and a Russian cruise missile/Iskander blows it up.
So everything has to be stored in other countries and drip-fed to the front by road as those missiles are not particularly good at hitting moving targets.
It does make supplying the Ukrainian troops at the front soooo slow though...especially in the Donbas region.
The Ukrainian artillery men who were training on how to use the HIMARS completed their training today.
USA sending them 4.
UK sending them 3
Germany sending them 3 it was announced today.
So Ukraine has ten to start with.
No doubt more will follow if they prove to be effective for Ukraine...the big advantage being that they can hit the orc Artillery in the Donbas without having to be taken all the way to the front.
However,there is no point sending more into Ukraine at this stage because until more Ukrainian Artillery men are trained on them they'll have to be stored somewhere in Ukraine at huge risk of being located by pro-Russian traitors and hit with orc missile strikes.
All those people urging the west to send more weapons faster are really not using their Brains and taking into consideration the huge amount (possibly millions ) of pro-Russian traitors living in Ukraine only too happy to make a quick phone call to the FSB to undermine Ukraine.
That USA Volunteer fighter James Vasquez was saying a new USA Volunteer joined them.After a couple of days he met a girl in the Kyiv area and took her back to their base to meet the rest of the unit.
Next day their base was hit by an orc missile strike.
This is what you're up against in Ukraine...a country full of pro-Russian traitors.
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The huge problem Ukraine has is that they can't store any weapons or ammo in Ukraine.
Whenever they try a pro-Russian spy/collaborator/traitor tells the orcs where it is and a Russian cruise missile/Iskander blows it up.
So everything has to be stored in other countries and drip-fed to the front by road as those missiles are not particularly good at hitting moving targets.
It does make supplying the Ukrainian troops at the front soooo slow though...especially in the Donbas region.
The Ukrainian artillery men who were training on how to use the HIMARS completed their training today.
USA sending them 4.
UK sending them 3
Germany sending them 3 it was announced today.
So Ukraine has ten to start with.
No doubt more will follow if they prove to be effective for Ukraine...the big advantage being that they can hit the orc Artillery in the Donbas without having to be taken all the way to the front.
However,there is no point sending more into Ukraine at this stage because until other Ukrainian Artillery men are trained on them they'll have to be stored somewhere in Ukraine at huge risk of being located by pro-Russian traitors and hit with orc missile strikes.
I guess it's better for it to get there slow than not at all. The info on the training and armaments is good to know CB that soon the more heavy longer range armaments from the west are going to have a chance to turn the tide of battle.
Just seen this report on CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/06/15/ukraine-us-weapon-rifle-drill-wedeman-pkg-nr-intl-hnk-vpx.cnn
A good insight into the western weaponry being sent. Apparently the Russian heavy guns outnumber Ukraine's 10 to 1 so the arrival of the better western heavy armaments will hopefully turn that around.
The Ukrainian soldier guy in the video reckoned Ukraine was losing over 100 troops a day, that would probably likely be about right, so over 1000 every ten days, over 3000 a month. While Russian troop losses might have been higher during the Kyiv phase of the invasion I'm guessing that they might be somewhat similar in this second stage of the invasion so far. Once those western heavy armaments get to the front though that could change. Sounds like Russia has a lot of heavy guns but once they lose those then it may become questionable where they can go since I would assume their conventional means of warfare would have been largely defeated.
Putler the other day seem to suggest that Russia could carry on with the war for years, 23 years like Peter the Great. The state Russia's economy is in and it's military I'm pretty doubtful they have anywhere near that sort of go in them. If Ukraine can break their attack in the coming weeks then it could soon be over for Russia, just a question of when or if they throw in the towel.
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The huge problem Ukraine has is that they can't store any weapons or ammo in Ukraine.
All those people urging the west to send more weapons faster are really not using their Brains and taking into consideration the huge amount (possibly millions ) of pro-Russian traitors living in Ukraine only too happy to make a quick phone call to the FSB to undermine Ukraine.
That USA Volunteer fighter James Vasquez was saying a new USA Volunteer joined them.After a couple of days he met a girl in the Kyiv area and took her back to their base to meet the rest of the unit.
Next day their base was hit by an orc missile strike.
This is what you're up against in Ukraine...a country full of pro-Russian traitors.
There are 100 solutions to your dilemma(s). If the Ukrainians were too
stupid to send less than a hundred men to artillery/missile/HIMARS school
then they should give Eastern Ukraine and the Black Sea to Russia.
None of the artillery at the front is stored in warehouses at the front. If you
place the systems 20 meters apart then ONE HIMARS school graduate can
operate a dozen systems training others as they go.
You can't tell cruise missiles approximately where targets are. You need
precise coordinates. The HIMARS ARE self propelled and will probably move
after every barrage. The greedy Russian traitors would have to be ON the
missile crew to give away their position. You don't have to worry about
security in a foxhole from the people sharing the foxhole.
Storing HIMARS away from the front when they need them at the front is
pure looney tunes.
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There are 100 solutions to your dilemma(s). If the Ukrainians were too
stupid to send less than a hundred men to artillery/missile/HIMARS school
then they should give Eastern Ukraine and the Black Sea to Russia.
None of the artillery at the front is stored in warehouses at the front. If you
place the systems 20 meters apart then ONE HIMARS school graduate can
operate a dozen systems training others as they go.
You can't tell cruise missiles approximately where targets are. You need
precise coordinates. The HIMARS ARE self propelled and will probably move
after every barrage. The greedy Russian traitors would have to be ON the
missile crew to give away their position. You don't have to worry about
security in a foxhole from the people sharing the foxhole.
Storing HIMARS away from the front when they need them at the front is
pure looney tunes.
I'm not sure Ukraine can spare having a hundred Artillery men abroad for a couple of weeks learning how to use the HIMARS.they're probably all needed at the front with the Howitzers trying to keep the orc hordes at bay.
The USA has never been invaded and the UK hasn't in my lifetime,so we really cannot comprehend what they're going through..it's easy being an armchair warrior without missiles and cluster bombs flying everywhere.
As NATO said these people are having to be trained on how to use modern NATO equipment whilst trying to save their country at the same time.
This is NATO's fault for not doing this BEFORE the invasion...it's not as if we didn't see the orc hordes massing on the Ukraine borders for weeks before the invasion is it ?
The pro-Russian traitors are everywhere in Ukraine..Zelensky even had to have the Regional Commander of the Military in the Kharkiv region arrested for being a traitor.
I remember Zelensky saying the traitor had put no defences up for the region...nothing.
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The USA has never been invaded
Not True, US was invaded in War of 1812 by Britain. They even burned the Capitol!!!!
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Not True, US was invaded in War of 1812 by Britain. They even burned the Capitol!!!!
Bit before my time :)
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The USA has never been invaded and the UK hasn't in my lifetime,so we really cannot comprehend what they're going through..it's easy being an armchair warrior without missiles and cluster bombs flying everywhere.
That's absolutely true, reading back what I wrote I appeared to be almost
cavalier about their situation.
This is NATO's fault for not doing this BEFORE the invasion...it's not as if we didn't see the orc hordes massing on the Ukraine borders for weeks before the invasion is it ?
It's the leaders. Joe Biden of the USA not a leader, Boris Johnson of the UK not
a leader. Emmanuel Macron of France, not a leader, Frank-Walter Steinmeier
not a leader.
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Steinmeier is president of Germany, which is largely a ceremonial role. The Chancellor is who holds real power.
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Steinmeier is president of Germany, which is largely a ceremonial role. The Chancellor is who holds real power.
Germany has been rudderless for years. Those that have done the
leading were totally incompetent. They make themselves totally
dependent on Russian gas and oil, then they shut down their
nuke program. Now they dip their toes in and out of the water worse
than a teenage girl trying to decide which dress to wear on a date.
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The Russians have a HEAVY influence over the German energy sector, as well as banking, German political competency is focused on the money that’s brought to German politicians from these industries
now under the “STRONG LEADER” YOU voted for…
the corruption came in the form of money laundering via multiple avenues, but especially banking and real estate, which STRONG LEADER personally dealt with
Let’s not forget about the millions of Russian oligarch money given to GREAT LEADER’S inauguration, Google “trump parnas”
which he in turn paid directly to family owned companies
the family that's prohibited from running ANY charity in New York State, cuz they ripped off a children's cancer foundation (google it)
Deutsche Bank was fined BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, for laundering Russian money, google it! it also happens to be great leader's biggest lender
German energy companies invested BILLIIONS in North Stream II, google it!
how much contributions to politicians, do you think THEY made?
the strong man of Europe gushed over by FOX NEWS "viktor Orban", was once a bagman for the head of the Russian mob semon mogilevitch google it
why did all the “STRONG” Republicans YOU FAVOR, the ones with close ties to great leader, vote against ANY aid to Ukraine?
Why does Tucker Carlson support Putin?
Why did the Republican Party COMPLETELY remove form the 2016 party platform, a provision for arming Ukraine (google it)
no mention of ANY of this from YOU BEEL EVER!, but if a box of bullets shows up in Ukraine an hour late, then Biden is the WORST LEADER WHO EVER LIVED!!
hmmm - why?
do YOU wanna answer this question first, or would you like ME to answer for you - cuz I know!
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http://archive.ph/BPAFr
Interesting article.
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It was ALWAYS very lucrative to be part of the FSB/GRU/SVR European logistics effort, which falls under Russian espionage…
being a Russian manager means you get to “skim” some off the top for “expenses”
here’s a list of Russian espionage efforts in Europa that have become public
IMAGINE what’s not public
Russians have MANY thousands of personnel involved in this
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Well looks like Boris has played a blinder :) he's just jetted into Kyiv in a second historic visit to Ukraine and has pledged to train tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers up both new recruits and existing troops:
http://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-makes-second-surprise-visit-to-kyiv-12635686
This will help Ukraine out enormously to ensure they don't end up with an army of mostly troops that are too lacking in training to be of much use on the battlefield. The larger Ukraine can make its army with trained soldiers the more likely they'll be able to stand up to Russia's army over the long term and gain the upper hand.
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A large crowd formed in Kyiv to welcome him when news broke that Boris was back in town...the Ukrainians really do love him/the Brits.
It's noticeable how different Zelensky and his team are with him in contrast with other leaders who've visited Kyiv.
Zelensky is very business-like and formal with the other leaders ,but with Boris him and his team are clearly genuinely happy to see him.. with big smiles on their faces and they're very relaxed around him.
Boris gave a book about the Queen to Zelensky and then signed it at the Presidents request. :)
Surprising that Boris didn't tell the northern MP's and business leaders in Doncaster he wouldn't be turning up for the conference as he was going to Kyiv instead...or maybe he was concerned about potential leaks to the orcs about his trip ?
There has been a lot of dirty Russian money coming into the UK and particularly London for many years...so maybe our elite society/ruling classes need looking into for corruption and being money-laundering allies of Putler.
There has been a documentary about Putler on Sky called "Putin's obsession " and it suggested that Putler had been recruiting people in the top echelons of our society from when Blair was our PM.
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Extra! Extra! Read all about it!!!
Topol M missiles, Russia has about 80 locked and loaded on Eww-Cry-Ena
some are MIRVed
some nukes have been converted to EMPs
here's a pic of Pootin on a recent factory tour where the Topols are made, there's one in the background
he got a presentation from the factory on the readiness and reliability
and a separate brifing on what would happen to Ukraine AFTER the first nuclear attack since Nagasiki
and how Pootin gave the General Staff no other option, it was either THIS or DEFEAT
and ain't nobody got time for defeat!
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Extra! Extra! Read all about it!!!
Topol M missiles, Russia has about 80 locked and loaded on Eww-Cry-Ena
some are MIRVed
some nukes have been converted to EMPs
here's a pic of Pootin on a recent factory tour where the Topols are made, there's one in the background
he got a presentation from the factory on the readiness and reliability
and a separate brifing on what would happen to Ukraine AFTER the first nuclear attack since Nagasiki
and how Pootin gave the General Staff no other option, it was either THIS or DEFEAT
and ain't nobody got time for defeat!
It will be defeat for him either way.
Either he'll lose in Ukraine or Russia will become a radioactive wasteland.
He's a dead man walking....but he may take a lot of us with him.
For a man who's terrified of dying...hence his pitiful fear of Covid....is he ready for the reckoning now ? >:D
Because like all bullies he's basically a coward.
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Germany has been rudderless for years. Those that have done the
leading were totally incompetent. They make themselves totally
dependent on Russian gas and oil, then they shut down their
nuke program. Now they dip their toes in and out of the water worse
than a teenage girl trying to decide which dress to wear on a date.
:ROFL: That's true
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A large crowd formed in Kyiv to welcome him when news broke that Boris was back in town...the Ukrainians really do love him/the Brits.
It's noticeable how different Zelensky and his team are with him in contrast with other leaders who've visited Kyiv.
Zelensky is very business-like and formal with the other leaders ,but with Boris him and his team are clearly genuinely happy to see him.. with big smiles on their faces and they're very relaxed around him.
Boris gave a book about the Queen to Zelensky and then signed it at the Presidents request. :)
Surprising that Boris didn't tell the northern MP's and business leaders in Doncaster he wouldn't be turning up for the conference as he was going to Kyiv instead...or maybe he was concerned about potential leaks to the orcs about his trip ?
There has been a lot of dirty Russian money coming into the UK and particularly London for many years...so maybe our elite society/ruling classes need looking into for corruption and being money-laundering allies of Putler.
There has been a documentary about Putler on Sky called "Putin's obsession " and it suggested that Putler had been recruiting people in the top echelons of our society from when Blair was our PM.
I've noticed the same the two leaders and their staff seem to be naturally closer and at ease with one another, natural allies you might say. The UK was the first nation most willing to get involved and help the Ukrainians out and I think they appreciate that and know they can rely upon us. The EU haven't given as much and to be honest I can only see unhelpful postering from them, giving candidate status for EU membership they know won't ever come to accepted member for many years to come, if ever. I personally think Ukraine is barking at the wrong door bothering applying for EU membership. The EU at heart has little care for its members less so for countries outside the EU. Most of what the EU can give in terms of trade preference the EU has already given, the EU is now short on cash so can't give away money like they did to the like of Poland. All they'll likely get from the EU on joining is a lot of directives (being told what to do). I sense in the meetings Zelensky has had with EU officials that he is not particularly at ease and I don't sense it's a great relationship to start with that the EU is particularly going to do anything for Ukraine at any stage. I think Ukraine would be better off seeing what the UK can do for it, remain Independent and look to NATO membership. If Russia gets pushed out of Ukraine I think NATO would then be happy to move in and equip Ukrainian forces to NATO standards to warn off any future threat by Russia. The EU has never really got it together on the military front, it's mostly just a vague mutual military assistance agreement which there is not necessarily a guarantee of coming to fruition in any meaningful way. Anyway, great to see it working out so well between the UK and Ukraine I think :)
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Extra! Extra! Read all about it!!!
Topol M missiles, Russia has about 80 locked and loaded on Eww-Cry-Ena
some are MIRVed
some nukes have been converted to EMPs
here's a pic of Pootin on a recent factory tour where the Topols are made, there's one in the background
he got a presentation from the factory on the readiness and reliability
and a separate brifing on what would happen to Ukraine AFTER the first nuclear attack since Nagasiki
and how Pootin gave the General Staff no other option, it was either THIS or DEFEAT
and ain't nobody got time for defeat!
That's interesting info Krimster. I guess we always new that there were no certainties with how this Ukraine conflict ends up, that Russia facing a conventional armed defeat may move to more deadly unconventional missile strikes and/or chemical weapons.
Reading this article today:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a40232488/russia-throws-half-century-old-tanks-into-ukraine-invasion/
It basically informs us that at the moment it's a war of attrition with conventional weapons but that it's a war of a attrition that is has a quick level of attrition. Russia has a big load of tanks but most of them are museum pieces too old and rusted and broken down beyond repair. They've gone through most of their T-72's and are now down to any T-62's that still move. The T-62s they started to deploy around Kherson on the 5th June and many were easily taken out straight away. My guess is that Russia is seeing it as there is no pint in having tank crews without tanks so might as well use the tank crews up even if pretty futility than have them sat around useless without tanks - bad for them but they seem little more than target practice now and a slow up the enemy and use up a bit of their arsenal by Russia. Ukraine of course has been running low on armaments but more is coming in. So Russia perhaps hoping to overwhelm them in an attrition battle and win that way.
New weapons coming into Ukraine will of course mean that Ukraine will overcome it's attrition issue and win against Russia. As you say Russia losing is something that it's going to find very hard, probably too hard to take. As I've queried for a while now what will Russia do once it's conventional forces are spent, their tanks are out, their artillery soon likely to be destroyed with mobile long range missiles armaments we are giving Ukraine. That only leaves them to be pushed back and destroyed or use unconventional weapons.
So your info here suggests they might well just do that. I'm not sure whether they will affix nuclear warheads. The problem with nukes us not just radioactive fallout spreading far and wide as I understand it but also a lot of thermo nuclear activity can cause global warming and potentially make the planet unliveable if there is enough of it. Anyway I tend to agree with CB there's no way we can back down to this playground bully if he pulls these out otherwise he'll pull the same stunt over and over and we'll end up with a massive problem anyway. We're just going to have to sit tight and battle on and if he fires these just fight on anyway as far as possible nothing else to do really as I see it.
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always expect, the unexpected...
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always expect, the unexpected...
I agree,and the way Putler was talking during the week i'd say if he does use Nukes there is as much chance he'll use them on the USA as in Ukraine.
Prevailing winds in Ukraine would blow the radiation fallout into Russia for a start,and if any of the fallout blew into neighbouring countries like Poland or Romania that would constitute an attack on NATO triggering World War 3
The way he said that Russia is going to be THE World power now, and that the end of the USA is coming, suggests he may well attack the USA very soon and he knows he'd lose using conventional weapons,so WMD's would be the way to go.
His speech followed the member of Duma's comments, urging Russia to strike the USA, on Russian State TV i posted here previously.
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Attacking the US would be a death knell for Russia.
Unlike Russia, I suspect the US maintains its nuclear arsenal. Its army is also more effective.
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Attacking the US would be a death knell for Russia.
Unlike Russia, I suspect the US maintains its nuclear arsenal. Its army is also more effective.
Any sane person knows that.
Unfortunately Putler is now clearly insane...or as Ben Wallace said "he's gone full tonto ".
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Remember that under Budapest . . . US, UK and France are obligated to do something if Ukraine attacked by nuclear.
Actually the only thing they are required to do is take the matter to the UN. But I suspect that would lead to more very quickly.
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I think Russia has likely got a lot of problems in store, some of which goes back to what Krim said a while back that its revenue from oil & gas won't go on forever. Apart from any decline in reserves renewables and other forms of energy are starting to come in now as more viable alternatives. Oil & gas they can only get so much from and then the Oligarchs take the bulk of the profit for themselves and use a lit of it to invest abroad, the Russian people don't see a lit of benefit from that. So Russia was heading to a precarious state where greater poverty could have been on the horizon. That in turn breeds decline and a collapsing society. A collapsing society is of course not good for those at the top or anyone in Russia really.
The fact that Russia hasn't been able to replace their tanks with anything new since the fall of the USSR is quite telling. Basically they are not at all as powerful as the headline military stats that they put out. It looks very much like they are sitting on a military that was getting old and very backward and obsolete. To my mind it looks like they tried to have a stab at getting back their old territories of the Soviet era before their army lost its ability completely to mount an invasion against its neighbours. Basically Russia can't manage to mobilize or update an army anywhere near to the scale of the Soviet Union. It's basically using the armaments built up during Soviet times to try and regain territories that might help them regenerate it army and economy. That's proving to be a strategy that may turn out to be a bit of a grasp. It's old Soviet armaments are basically old rusted museum pieces for the most part and Russia has probably left it to the last minute, probably too late to make a successful take over of Ukraine.
All they really have left is the heavy missile strike to level cities with whatever they've got. That's basically a losers tactic as they won't likely get what they seek, resources, manufacturing base, crop yield. They get a wasteland as a alternative to losing completely. That Russia hasn't actually declared war on Ukraine but declared a peacekeeping mission I would say they would be better off calling it a day and declaring their 'peacekeeping' over.
I can't see things ending well in Russia either way, with their conventional army becoming increasingly disarmed and their military weakness becoming weak how long before the different regions of the Russian Federation chose to de-federate as their is little overall military to stop them just rusted out old tanks that can't move anywhere.
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I wish it were true what some here write about the various weaknesses of Russia.
But I really can't believe it.
Quite aside from Nukes, I think Russia has a formidable military.
Add to that the Russian group mindset of being able to withstand terrible pain and hardship (maybe even liking to have pain) . . .
So perhaps an over puffing up here of Ukraine prospects and an undercounting of Russian prospects.
I hope I am wrong regarding my above assessment.
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Report from Russia:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/high-casualties-russia-pulls-out-all-the-stops-to-find-fresh-troops-a-254bf9c2-c83b-4492-8dea-1f5cec53b03e
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I wish it were true what some here write about the various weaknesses of Russia.
But I really can't believe it.
Quite aside from Nukes, I think Russia has a formidable military.
Add to that the Russian group mindset of being able to withstand terrible pain and hardship (maybe even liking to have pain) . . .
So perhaps an over puffing up here of Ukraine prospects and an undercounting of Russian prospects.
I hope I am wrong regarding my above assessment.
Were their military formidable, they’d be in Kyiv by now. Despite their brutal tactics, which disregard civilians completely, they’re still not ruling even 20% of the country.
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Were their military formidable, they’d be in Kyiv by now.
They easily could have been in Kyiv. They were not beaten, they made a tactical decision to withdraw.
They could have also reduced Kyiv to ruins like Mariupol.
I believe they deliberately wanted to save Kyiv and they want to save Odesa so that those two would be intact as the capitals of two of the regions that Russia recently displayed in their 'new' map of the future Ukraine.
But if Ukraine leaders and the west keeps crowing about how Russia was beaten and forced to withdraw from outside of Kyiv . . . Russia might just come back and use long range artillery to destroy Kyiv out of spite, despite their desire to keep Kyiv intact.
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There are 100 solutions to your dilemma(s). If the Ukrainians were too
stupid to send less than a hundred men to artillery/missile/HIMARS school
then they should give Eastern Ukraine and the Black Sea to Russia.
Have you considered the capacity of the firing range where they will be trained? I'd say managing and training X crews at one time, not only with targeting and firing but maintenance and support as well is a pretty serious undertaking. Where did you hear there would only be 100 men trained? How big is a HIMARS crew? How many men will be involved in the support of these 6 million buck systems?
None of the artillery at the front is stored in warehouses at the front. If you
place the systems 20 meters apart then ONE HIMARS school graduate can
operate a dozen systems training others as they go.
You can't tell cruise missiles approximately where targets are. You need
precise coordinates. The HIMARS ARE self propelled and will probably move
after every barrage. The greedy Russian traitors would have to be ON the
missile crew to give away their position. You don't have to worry about
security in a foxhole from the people sharing the foxhole.
Aside from contradicting yourself, ever hear of drones? Russia has no reconnaissance assets? Sure, single moving units would be hard to spot, but your 20 lined up in a row would present a huge target, at risk of wiping them all out at one time.
Storing HIMARS away from the front when they need them at the front is
pure looney tunes.
Sure, but rearming these moving units will be a logistics challenge considering that most of the 600 to 1000-mile resupply pipeline which under current circumstances represents a 3-4 day trip, has to be hidden, akin to smuggling. Let's say a commercial truck can transport reload packages right next to the unit. They will need a forklift to get them safely off the truck to the ground to be reloaded. I highly doubt they can be loaded direct truck to firing unit. Commercial trucks are too high, and can't navigate farm fields and rough terrain. Sure don't want to be dropping thousands of pounds of solid propellant and HE or? How many of these vehicles will be needed to supply a half dozen HIMARS that can fire their load in one minute?
(http://www.armedconflicts.com/attachments/2/original__4_.jpg)
I think you are vastly underestimating the challenges involved 2tall.
A number of inland storage depots will be needed. The closer these depots are to the front, the more vulnerable they are to detection and destruction.
US and other countries are sending numbers of units that can be effectively managed and supplied.
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Were their military formidable, they’d be in Kyiv by now.
Indeed. If the goal was only Donbas, they may well have taken it by now. Instead, they wasted their resources.
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I wish it were true what some here write about the various weaknesses of Russia.
But I really can't believe it.
Now now, with such language you'll be branded an 'orc'.
US 30-year fixed mortgage interest rates are now above 6%, while Russia's central bank just cut interest rates below pre-invasion levels. RUB is strongest against the USD since 2018. Russia is posting massive surpluses and apparently raising military spending by 20%. How big is the USA deficit these days?
Things are even worse in Europe, no wonder Bojo the Clown loves going to Kyiv. Any reason to escape the impending malaise in the UK. The misery index there is the highest in decades. Russia is pounding the West economically, or more appropriate the West is pounding the West economically. The writing is on the wall. Western governments need to make a u-turn out of Ukraine to save their own imploding economies.
Wars are expensive. Guess who is in a position to finance one?
Listening to Putin speak in StP it's clear he's in empire mode. He's thinking in terms of decades not months. This is not Putin cheerleading, it's simply reading the tea leaves... and have a lovely pride month. Somebody's been watching Pat's dating Ukraine channel. :P
(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/Macron-and-Zelensky-1626818.jpg)
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Now now, with such language you'll be branded an 'orc'.
I doubt it.
US 30-year fixed mortgage interest rates are now above 6%, while Russia's central bank just cut interest rates below pre-invasion levels. RUB is strongest against the USD since 2018. Russia is posting massive surpluses and apparently raising military spending by 20%. How big is the USA deficit these days?
Little, to do with the RU/UA situation. Just a bit of gas on the fire already started by throwing free money into the economy for too long. Unemployment, the largest misery factor is at historic lows in EU, US and UK. As long as folks can buy needed essentials we'll get through this. Of course, the defense industry is booming.
Find anyone that will give you USD for Rubles? Let me know as I have some change left over from a prior trip.
The ONLY thing keeping RU afloat and providing fiscal surpluses is its natural resources created millions of years ago are still in demand and not due to being smarter or better than the next man. Chew on that dino bone for a bit. As for trade surpluses, well if there is little or no trade also an artificial value.
Things are even worse in Europe, no wonder Bojo the Clown loves going to Kyiv. Any reason to escape the impending malaise in the UK. The misery index there is the highest in decades. Russia is pounding the West economically, or more appropriate the West is pounding the West economically. The writing is on the wall. Western governments need to make a u-turn out of Ukraine to save their own imploding economies.
Sure, some hardships have resulted but no one I know is blaming UA.
Wars are expensive. Guess who is in a position to finance one?
Good causes should be supported. The west is gaining a great deal of knowledge that will help ensure RU can never try such stunts with NATO/EU countries and expect to win. To put monetary value into perspective, the west spent 10 billion on a space telescope to probe the beginning of time and space. 50 billion or more on fusion technology.
Listening to Putin speak in StP it's clear he's in empire mode. He's thinking in terms of decades not months. This is not Putin cheerleading, it's simply reading the tea leaves... and have a lovely pride month. Somebody's been watching Pat's dating Ukraine channel. :P
The world will re-align more forcefully towards other energy sources. If anything should be a net win for Mother Earth. As far as fuel for mobility, I'd still enjoy paying US prices. Much of the value of oil and gas is based on speculation anyway. Oil companies are reaping windfall profits and governments as well with higher tax revenue.
Putin's power relies on RU people believing his lies. From recent history, we know lies have short legs.
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Rwd123,
why be a
Russian sock puppet, when instead you coulda gone LONG on petroleum futures during the first covid peak, and used all the margins your broker was willing to extend and BUY, BUY at it’s lowest point
you know why you didn’t
cuz your ancestors got caught picking people’s pockets near picadilly and were sent to a penal colony
to shear sheep
that’s WHY!!!
my ancestors were WAY TO SMART to get caught, so we got to choose to live where we wanted to
clearly, one too many Foster’s for you me cobber!
You must be one LONELY DINGO out there in the outback
no sheilas for ye arghhhhh!!!
cuz YANKS GET ALL THE UKRAINIAN POOTY-TANG!!!
and that just leaves all you WALTZING MATILDAS SOL!!!
LOL, and on top of that, your toilettes all flush in the WRONG direction!!!
no wonder you're so messed up
you do EVERYTHING this way and then wonder why your life is so FOOKED UP!!!
ain't gonna be a Ukrainian sheila who has time for you!
sad...
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Now now, with such language you'll be branded an 'orc'.
That would be a pretty silly branding as I am a strong supporter of Ukraine.
And interestingly, in our group of Ukraine families here in our university town, I am viewed by the Ukrainians as the most extreme supporter. I have voiced idea of rounding up the Russians here and doing . . .
However support for Ukraine serves no purpose when it involves blowing smoke up each other's ______ by repeating silliness about Russian weaknesses.
As I said, Russia could have (and still can) reduced Kyiv to rubble like they did in Mariupol if Putin really wanted to.
Now it's true that as time marches on and available Russian troops and equipment become more depleted (and if supplies are sent to Ukraine in ever increasing amounts), then I believe that Russia really will be weakened and Ukraine can prevail.
So very critical is time as always. How much time will elapse before our supplies to Ukraine overwhelms the supplies and troops available to Putin.
Can the Ukraine military last the required time waiting period ??
And for wife and me: Will her closest relative survive that long ?
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I wish it were true what some here write about the various weaknesses of Russia.
But I really can't believe it.
Quite aside from Nukes, I think Russia has a formidable military.
Add to that the Russian group mindset of being able to withstand terrible pain and hardship (maybe even liking to have pain) . . .
So perhaps an over puffing up here of Ukraine prospects and an undercounting of Russian prospects.
I hope I am wrong regarding my above assessment.
I think your assessment is probably correct were it still the 1980s ML. A lot has changed since then, I'm sure back in your Navy days Soviet MIG's flying around buzzing the US F-15's were all the rage and the then new Soviet SU fighter jets to be feared. The present conflict must really remind you of those days I guess since the Russians are dragging out all that old gear from way back. It's kind of like sound a do-over of those times with the same equipment by way passed its time.
I don't think the Russians are going to bother with their tanks a whole lot now, I think the recent move is just a case of using up old tanks that still move and tank crews who are without a tank, it's kind of callous of Russia to do that but they seem to operate that way in war. The Javlin & NLAW missiles tend to go up in the air and strike down to the top of the tank turret. The M-62 tanks are particularly weak there and basically extremely few to none of those tank crew that jump in those tanks stand any chance of survival. Literally them getting in one of those tanks is a death sentence that will likely quickly come about.
Russia's only conventional hope is it's artillery but with the west giving Ukraine longer range artillery, mobile long range missile units and the like their going to get pounded too soon.
I think Krim is right Russia is likely to use ballistic missiles, whether they are nuclear who knows. I said at the start that I wouldn't be surprised if Russia targeted Ukraine's troops with hyper thermal barbic missiles to take them out in one go along with any city they are sheltering in. I'm kind of surprised they didn't do that to begin with. Now it's looking like they may be moving to that. It's bad news of course for any residents remaining in front line cities as if they don't leave before missile strike they are unfortunately likely to be taken by it also. I can't help but wonder if our intervention as well meaning as it was might just end up making things worse out there and have made the situation a whole lot more deadly for Ukrainians.
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I said at the start that I wouldn't be surprised if Russia targeted Ukraine's troops with hyper thermal barbic missiles to take them out in one go along with any city they are sheltering in. I'm kind of surprised they didn't do that to begin with.
Trench they cost too much. The old Soviet munitions work just fine
for destroying cities and killing women and children. No need to use
cutting edge tech for a medieval job.
Pentagon says hypersonic weapons are too expensive
The Pentagon wants defense contractors to cut the ultimate cost of hypersonic
weapons, the head of research and development said on Tuesday, as the next generation of super-fast missiles being developed currently cost tens of millions
per unit.
http://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/pentagon-says-hypersonic-weapons-are-too-expensive-2021-10-12/
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As I said, Russia could have (and still can) reduced Kyiv to rubble like they did in Mariupol if Putin really wanted to.
Good point. I take it Putin thought he could waltz in with a warm welcome, and maybe yes, decided resistance was too great without causing huge damage to the city (as has now been the case in other cities)
Also, whatever forces and equipment were left in the north, were needed in the south to make progress where little progress was being made.
"Can't have the cake and eat it too.." comes to mind.
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So very critical is time as always. How much time will elapse before our
supplies to Ukraine overwhelms the supplies and troops available to Putin.
Can the Ukraine military last the required time waiting period ??
I don't think that the USA and the rest of the West have any intention
of giving Ukraine what they need to win. Look at the track history so
far. No MIG's or long range rockets (or equally bad only 4 of them).
I think they worry too much about what happens if Russia loses and
the instability that could cause
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I don't think that the USA and the rest of the West have any intention
of giving Ukraine what they need to win. Look at the track history so
far. No MIG's or long range rockets (or equally bad only 4 of them).
I think they worry too much about what happens if Russia loses and
the instability that could cause
The west is giving Ukraine 10 long range rocket systems to start with..not 4.
4 from the USA.
3 from the UK.
3 from Germany.
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I was just thinking about how this war affects the Ukrainian Military on a personal level.
From being just another face in the crowd leading a humdrum life ...you've now become a hero to millions of people around the World.
I see Ukrainian Flags everywhere as i drive around in my town.
You can post a selfie video on social media just sitting on top of a military vehicle dressed in your combat gear with an AK-47 or anti-tank weapon in your arms and millions of guys will be cheering you on and millions of women will be swooning over you.
This isn't just another war..this really is a war about holding-back and hopefully defeating the forces of evil.
There really hasn't been anything like this since the second world war..and social media really has brought it into everyone's homes.
Looking at the heroes faces there is no doubt or fear in their eyes..just the strength of conviction that what they're doing is very important and worthwhile and they want to share it with the world.
Some of them are even doing dance moves in the middle of war zones. :)
For many they will have finally found a real purpose in their lives..and if it's their day to die then they will do so knowing it was for a good cause.
As some have already said "It's the best job in the World...trashing Russians ".
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I think you are vastly underestimating the challenges involved 2tall.
I think you want to protect team Biden and their vast incompetence from
scrutiny.
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2tall,
No, I've worked in the logistics field for over 30 years. Biden did not even come to mind when replying to your posts.
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Ukraine-Russia war: US, West delay in delivering weapons gives Putin edge
in Donbas region
"It seems the right weapons are just not getting there in time, and turning what
could have been a clear victory for Ukraine into a Russian advantage - a fumble
on the 10-yard line by the West," the official said.
"Germany, which initially delayed the delivery of lethal aid to Ukraine until two months into the invasion, has lagged significantly behind Ukraine’s other allies in delivering any of its aid: Data from German think tank The Kiel Institute indicates Germany lags behind most allies, both in terms of the amount of aid promised and the amount actually delivered – amounting to roughly 35% of its total commitment. "
That indecision and divisiveness in target and commitment is something that Russia will look to exploit as it presses its advantage to secure the Donbas region while the Ukrainians fight with depleting resources and inferior weapons.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-russia-war-delay-weapons-putin-donbas
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2tall,
No, I've worked in the logistics field for over 30 years. Biden did not even come to mind when replying to your posts.
That should have come to your mind first.
The US military has the most advanced logistical operations in the world.
Only under Team Biden have they become incompetent.
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Zelenskyy says arms urgently needed as Russian supply dwindles
"We keep telling our partners that Ukraine needs modern anti-missile weapons.
Our country does not have [them] at a sufficient level yet, but it is our country
in Europe that needs such weapons most right now," he said.
"Delay with its provision cannot be justified."
http://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-zelenskyy-arms-needed-russian-supply-nato-aid
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"http://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-zelenskyy-arms-needed-russian-supply-nato-aid"
LOL!!! I'd recommend getting your informatze straight from Russia Today or Sputnick, before it gets filtered by Fox News (LOL)
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"http://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-zelenskyy-arms-needed-russian-supply-nato-aid"
LOL!!! I'd recommend getting your informatze straight from Russia Today or Sputnick, before it gets filtered by Fox News (LOL)
I have posted news links from a wide variety of sources.
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That should have come to your mind first.
Why should Biden come to mind first? I'm sure he has the best military advisors available.
The US military has the most advanced logistical operations in the world.
Only under Team Biden have they become incompetent.
Yes, they are good, but in this case only up to the UA border and not one inch further. Any equipment handed over has another treacherous 600-1000 or more Km to go.
As far as I can see, nothing has changed at US TransCom since Biden took office.
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I'm not sure if the orcs are running out of Pilots or not,but have you all seen the state of their captured fighter pilots ?
They're all over fifty and overweight.
Tom Cruise they ain't. ;D
I know Putler is now recruiting up to 65 years old for his orc military,he's getting so desperate..but seriously grandad fighter pilots ?
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Why should Biden come to mind first? I'm sure he has the best military advisors available.
He has bungled 100% of every foreign policy decision in his life.
If he has competent military advisors he ignores them, proof
is the Afghanistan debacle.
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I saw this at the other place first.
When The Lies Come Home
Kiev’s war with Moscow is lost. Ukrainian forces are being bled white. Trained replacements do not exist in sufficient numbers to influence the battle, and the situation grows more desperate by the hour. No amount of U.S. and allied military aid or assistance short of direct military intervention by U.S. and NATO ground forces can change this harsh reality.
The problem today is not ceding territory and population to Moscow in Eastern Ukraine that Moscow already controls. The future of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions along with the Donbas is decided. Moscow is also likely to secure Kharkov and Odessa, two cities that are historically Russian and Russian-speaking, as well as the territory that adjoins them. These operations will extend the conflict through the summer. The problem now is how to stop the fighting.
Whether the fighting stops in the early fall will depend on two key factors.
The first involves the leadership in Kiev. Will the Zelensky government consent
to the Biden program for perpetual conflict with Russia?
If the Biden administration has its way, Kiev will continue to operate as a base
for the buildup of new forces poised to threaten Moscow. In practice, this means
Kiev must commit national suicide by exposing the Ukrainian heartland west of
the Dnieper River to massive, devastating strikes by Russia’s long-range missile
and rocket forces.
http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/when-lies-come-home
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What the West Has Given Is Not Enough to Win, Ukraine Says
RATISLAVA, Slovakia – The amounts and types of weapons the United
States and other NATO members are sending to Ukraine are not enough
to eject Russian armed forces and win the war, Ukraine’s defense minister
said.
“We need more,” Oleksii Reznikov said Friday, to mount a “sufficient counterattack and kick them outside of our country to liberate all occupied territory.”
Reznikov’s grim assessment comes just three days after President Joe Biden
announced a new $700 million arms package for Ukraine that includes
long-requested High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or HIMARS,
although with only limited-range rockets and a promise from Kyiv
to not strike targets inside of Russia.
His call for more advanced Western arms was echoed this week at a key
international security conference by several Central and Eastern European
leaders who rejected hopes for a near-term end to the war.
Reznikov said recent donations of artillery, radar, and electronic warfare gear
are helping Ukraine to defend its territory west of the Donbas region, slowing
Russia’s advances. But they are not enough to expel Russian forces or to deter
future strikes on Europe.
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/06/what-west-has-given-not-enough-win-ukraine-says/367740/
Does the West Want Ukraine to Win or Not?
The last time we heard U.S. officials use that word was to describe the war in Afghanistan. The United States didn’t win that war, and it looks like Ukraine
isn’t going to win this one—at least, not with the weapons the world is
allowing them to have.
It is true that Ukraine has stymied Russia’s attacks from the north, that shelling
has ceased in Kharkiv for the first time since the war began, and that even the consolidated effort to seize the Donbas is proceeding slowly. But take those
little victories with caution: Russia still has the ability to send in many more
waves of troops and ground power, as long as the Kremlin and the generals
desire.
Ukrainians are fighting to win, but it’s clear the world will give them only
enough weapons to hold the line—a line largely dictated by the Kremlin’s
will—and hope for a negotiated peace with accused war criminal Vladimir
Putin. If the United States and its allies want a total victory for Ukraine,
they will have to give much more. Otherwise it increasingly looks like
Ukraine will have to sacrifice the Donbas region. And if that’s the case,
why keep fighting at all?
http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2022/05/does-west-want-ukraine-win-or-not/366820/
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I saw this at the other place first.
When The Lies Come Home
Kiev’s war with Moscow is lost. Ukrainian forces are being bled white. Trained replacements do not exist in sufficient numbers to influence the battle, and the situation grows more desperate by the hour. No amount of U.S. and allied military aid or assistance short of direct military intervention by U.S. and NATO ground forces can change this harsh reality.
The problem today is not ceding territory and population to Moscow in Eastern Ukraine that Moscow already controls. The future of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions along with the Donbas is decided. Moscow is also likely to secure Kharkov and Odessa, two cities that are historically Russian and Russian-speaking, as well as the territory that adjoins them. These operations will extend the conflict through the summer. The problem now is how to stop the fighting.
Whether the fighting stops in the early fall will depend on two key factors.
The first involves the leadership in Kiev. Will the Zelensky government consent
to the Biden program for perpetual conflict with Russia?
If the Biden administration has its way, Kiev will continue to operate as a base
for the buildup of new forces poised to threaten Moscow. In practice, this means
Kiev must commit national suicide by exposing the Ukrainian heartland west of
the Dnieper River to massive, devastating strikes by Russia’s long-range missile
and rocket forces.
http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/when-lies-come-home (http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/when-lies-come-home)
Zerohedge is a known for its pro Russian perspectives.
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At the start of the Biden administration, there were 2,500 US soldiers in Afghanistan
Trump is the one who signed the agreement to withdraw, and made minimum efforts towards Afghan security while in office
such a small number of American troops were vulnerable to a Taliban offensive which happened a little over 3 months after Biden took office
during the transistion period of November to Jan, Trump blocked Biden from receiving ANY briefings, depriving his team of info
but sure go ahead and blame Biden, cuz Fox News said so
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_United_States_troops_from_Afghanistan_(2020%E2%80%932021)
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They easily could have been in Kyiv. They were not beaten, they made a tactical decision to withdraw.
They made a decison when they could not capture the capital.
They could have also reduced Kyiv to ruins like Mariupol.
Kyiv is not Mariupol. It contains the third most important monastary in Russian Orthodoxy. It contains the most ancient Russian Orthodox cathedral in the world. Sure, Russia could level Kyiv and its three million residents, but what would Russia achieve with that? Are ill educated Buryats or Chechens going to move there and rebuild Kyiv into a great Russian city?
I believe they deliberately wanted to save Kyiv and they want to save Odesa so that those two would be intact as the capitals of two of the regions that Russia recently displayed in their 'new' map of the future Ukraine.
Yes, however, they miscalculated in assuming the residents of those two cities want them there. They do not.
But if Ukraine leaders and the west keeps crowing about how Russia was beaten and forced to withdraw from outside of Kyiv . . . Russia might just come back and use long range artillery to destroy Kyiv out of spite, despite their desire to keep Kyiv intact.
What would they achieve with such a tactic? They would be a pariah state for at least a generation.
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They would be a pariah state for at least a generation.
I presume (and hope) this is already the case.
But the Russian people simply do not care about such designations.
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this is how you make the "iron curtain" once again, Homo Sovieticus 2.0
we're just at the beginning of what's coming down the road folks
just the beginning...
it's why I took the exit
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I saw this at the other place first.
When The Lies Come Home
Kiev’s war with Moscow is lost. Ukrainian forces are being bled white. Trained replacements do not exist in sufficient numbers to influence the battle, and the situation grows more desperate by the hour. No amount of U.S. and allied military aid or assistance short of direct military intervention by U.S. and NATO ground forces can change this harsh reality.
The problem today is not ceding territory and population to Moscow in Eastern Ukraine that Moscow already controls. The future of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions along with the Donbas is decided. Moscow is also likely to secure Kharkov and Odessa, two cities that are historically Russian and Russian-speaking, as well as the territory that adjoins them. These operations will extend the conflict through the summer. The problem now is how to stop the fighting.
Whether the fighting stops in the early fall will depend on two key factors.
The first involves the leadership in Kiev. Will the Zelensky government consent
to the Biden program for perpetual conflict with Russia?
If the Biden administration has its way, Kiev will continue to operate as a base
for the buildup of new forces poised to threaten Moscow. In practice, this means
Kiev must commit national suicide by exposing the Ukrainian heartland west of
the Dnieper River to massive, devastating strikes by Russia’s long-range missile
and rocket forces.
http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/when-lies-come-home (http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/when-lies-come-home)
Bill,
Why on Earth are you posting on here pro-Russian propaganda links from the other place which is infested with unintelligent Putler/Russian fanboys who are gullible enough to believe such garbage ?
If Ukraine has run out of weapons they somehow managed to hit Snake Island again today and also hit an oil rig off Crimea which originally belonged to Ukraine according to Russian sources.
As for Kherson the Ukraine Deputy PM today advised the residents of Kherson to evacuate the city ahead of the coming Ukraine counter-offensive.
You didn't know this ?
Then i suggest you catch up on the real news instead of reading the tripe in that pro-Russian place.
You did realize the Ukrainian troops are now only 10 km from the city having smashed through the first line of the orcs defenses ?
The orcs are now desperately forming second and third lines of defense to try and save themselves,which they may possibly succeed in doing because as you know war is unpredictable.
Even Igor Girkin felt compelled to post a video of Russian troops surrendering en-masse in the Luhansk region...they were in a very bad way too,with their comrades dead bodies lying around.
So..who's bleeding white now ?
I did say i wouldn't post my info on here anymore,but the garbage link you posted on here needs to be put in it's place.
When the lies come home indeed.
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At the start of the Biden administration, there were 2,500 US soldiers in Afghanistan
Trump is the one who signed the agreement to withdraw, and made minimum efforts towards Afghan security while in office
such a small number of American troops were vulnerable to a Taliban offensive which happened a little over 3 months after Biden took office
during the transistion period of November to Jan, Trump blocked Biden from receiving ANY briefings, depriving his team of info
but sure go ahead and blame Biden, cuz Fox News said so
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_United_States_troops_from_Afghanistan_(2020%E2%80%932021)
Sure go ahead and excuse Biden because the Washington Post told you to.
Biden f#cked up leaving Afghanistan. He left Americans behind and allies were
killed. He should have removed the Americans and their families first and the
military last. The New York Times and Team Biden said "it was either that or spend
another 30 years in Afghanistan."
That is a false dilemma fallacy, I learned as a school boy reading Toulmin's model
of argumentation. Very little of my information comes from Fox News. They aren't
even part of my cable package.
Udachi!
Bill
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Bill,
Why on Earth are you posting on here pro-Russian propaganda links from the other place which is infested with unintelligent Putler/Russian fanboys who are gullible enough to believe such garbage ?
If Ukraine has run out of weapons they somehow managed to hit Snake Island again today and also hit an oil rig off Crimea which originally belonged to Ukraine according to Russian sources.
As for Kherson the Ukraine Deputy PM today advised the residents of Kherson to evacuate the city ahead of the coming Ukraine counter-offensive.
You didn't know this ?
Then i suggest you catch up on the real news instead of reading the tripe in that pro-Russian place.
You did realize the Ukrainian troops are now only 10 km from the city having smashed through the first line of the orcs defenses ?
When the lies come home indeed.
I didn't get this link from the usual cabal. It was from a guy who talks
more about red pills/white knights and has the best nicknames for
commies on the entire internet.
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I didn't get this link from the usual cabal. It was from a guy who talks
more about red pills/white knights and has the best nicknames for
commies on the entire internet.
Ahhhh i know who you mean,and yeah he's ok :)
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Article about the workers at the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhia, now in Russian control.
http://archive.ph/kCimk
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I see Ukrainian Flags everywhere as i drive around in my town.
Yeah, I see so many Ukrainian flags when driving around its feels literally like I'm living in Ukraine lol.
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I didn't get this link from the usual cabal. It was from a guy who talks
more about red pills/white knights and has the best nicknames for
commies on the entire internet.
I too am dubious about Ukraine's situation, they don't tend to put out official figures for troop losses much if at all. Russia we tend to get the troop loss figures one way or another from various sources and I think jointly a pretty clear figure of troop losses gets validated enough, currently around 33,000 Russian troop losses as I understand it, but even this may be higher possibly. Ukraine I think has potentially lost a lot as well but they keep quiet to maintain morale. There's no telling if the losses are bear as much or more as the war takes its toll. My impression is that Ukraine's forces could be suffering somewhat at the moment.
I think Ukraine did well around Kyiv and Kharkiv but particularly around Kyiv. Russia's problem was there that their flanks were not protected and Ukraines forces could ambush them around the sides. The problem of being strung out along a long road made the situation even more difficult for Russia. So Russia getting it's artillery up in sufficient quantity was a major problem I think. Then add to that all the rivers around Kyiv made Kyiv strategically difficult to break into. Russia's forces never did get to completely encircle the city.
I think Russia's strategy at the moment is get everything they've got left in terms of conventional military and continue to try to overwhelm Ukraine in the Donbas and hope they can push through and break Ukraine before too much new modern weaponry arrives. I think Boris pledging to train Ukrainian forces likely supports the post you made that Ukraine is running out of trained troops. That said I think the same is true on the Russian side since they are trying to pull anything from anywhere so I reckon there probably more in dire straits as they've only got so much longer and then they run out of weapons, troops and momentum. It looks like Russia is relying on its heavy artillery to do a lot of the work but that is likely only to last so long before western armaments take it out or they run out of munitions.
Overall I would say Ukraine is likely to be able to hold on so long as they don't suddenly break but I think Russia is on its last roll of the dice so far as conventional attack goes and its getting down to using more and more outdated gear and older and less well trained recruits. For Ukraine I think it's just a case of hold on a bit longer before Russia exhausts itself then it's only a matter of time before they push Russia back.
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Given the chance, Russia will occupy Donbas, declare a win, entrench and pass the time rearming to try again and again to expand until something breaks, either the will of UA or the will of the Russian people. Armed by the west, UA can keep up the pressure and take back what they can, but it will be a costly, prolonged war in human terms.
Politically speaking, at this point, Russia has very little, if anything to lose, thus any attempts to negotiate are likely doomed to failure.
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German Panzerhaubitze 2000 155 mm Howitzers have finally arrived in Ukraine.
12 of them,including some from the Netherlands.
This news comes from Ukrainian Government official Oleksii Reznikov.
Good timing actually because Ukraine has just had two Western supplied M777 155mm towed Howitzers destroyed by an orc air-strike whilst operating 12km from the front line and targeting orc logistics behind the front line.
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Given the chance, Russia will occupy Donbas, declare a win, entrench and pass the time rearming to try again and again to expand until something breaks, either the will of UA or the will of the Russian people. Armed by the west, UA can keep up the pressure and take back what they can, but it will be a costly, prolonged war in human terms.
Politically speaking, at this point, Russia has very little, if anything to lose, thus any attempts to negotiate are likely doomed to failure.
Rearm with what? Russia is essentially using up its armaments. I'm doubtful that they will be able to rearm at least any tie soon. It takes time to design, test and manufacture armaments, it's not something you do tommorow. That Russia has stuck with its old stock is telling to me that they are lacking on the ability to churn out armaments. My only other thought would be if they could buy armaments of another country such as China, India, etc but they would still need to await delivery to the front and train their troops up in it. At the moment the whole run down army of Russia appears to be getting even more run down. I think they hoped on a quick victory, take over Ukraine's resources and manufacturing base and build its army up with that. Looks like they might not just make it to me.
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Big explosions in Donetsk,Kievskiy district today as Ukrainian forces hit a Russian ammo depot.
There have been 12 big explosions in Donetsk and it's suburbs in the last half a week ,as Ukrainian forces start to pummel the gangsters of the so-called DPR.
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Rearm with what? Russia is essentially using up its armaments. I'm doubtful that they will be able to rearm at least any tie soon. It takes time to design, test and manufacture armaments, it's not something you do tommorow.
The defense industry of Russia is a strategically important sector and a large employer in Russia.[1] It is also a significant player in the global arms market, with Russian Federation being the second largest conventional arms exporter after the United States, with $13.5 billion worth of exports in 2012.[2] Combined, the US and Russia account for 57% of all major weapons exports.[3]
source: wikipedia.org
Really think they gonna just run out? Sure, their exports will dwindle due to 'domestic use', but otherwise I doubt the factories have shuttered their doors.
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Awakened to Putin’s Threat, Biden and the West Nod Off Again
By Garry Kasparov (Russian former Chess Champion) June 17, 2022
Earlier this month President Biden addressed the nation. Rather than do so from behind the Resolute Desk, he went on “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” In a 23-minute interview, Russia’s war on Ukraine wasn’t mentioned once. With domestic issues such as inflation, the Jan. 6 hearings, abortion and gun control on the president’s plate, the war in Ukraine may seem less of a priority. But it isn’t. Providing Ukraine with everything it needs to fight the Russians is the right—and popular—thing to do.
Yet Mr. Biden seems as if he’d rather pass the buck than act. During remarks at a Democratic fundraiser two days after the Kimmel interview, he said that President Volodymyr Zelensky “didn’t want to hear it” when warned about Russia’s imminent invasion. The Ukrainians deny this, but even if it were true, what of the U.S. ignoring its own warnings? No sanctions or aid was deployed to deter Mr. Putin’s invasion. Mr. Zelensky was surely skeptical that any U.S. support would be forthcoming after the fighting started.
Now we know the high cost of that failure to act—the slaughter, destruction and war crimes in Ukraine, and the food and fuel crises around the world. Instead of working to contain Mr. Putin in the eight years since he first invaded Ukraine, instead of insulating themselves against blackmail by becoming less dependent on Russian exports, American and European governments kicked the can down the road.
They also kept the door open to Mr. Putin, giving him confidence along with the hundreds of billions of dollars in oil and gas revenues he used to arm his war machine. Mr. Biden had a summit and several calls with Mr. Putin, and for what? Mr. Putin has stayed in power for 22 years by ignoring what weak Western leaders say and watching what they do. He took note as U.S. intelligence correctly predicted his long-planned invasion but did nothing to stop it. He watched as the first U.S. offer of help to Ukraine was to evacuate Mr. Zelensky under the assumption that Kyiv would fall within hours. Ukrainian courage and skill proved that assumption wrong.
Mr. Biden may be besieged politically, but Mr. Zelensky is besieged literally, as Ukraine suffers great loss of life in its defense of the eastern Donbas region. The only way to end the war is by helping Ukraine regain its territory and sovereignty and destroying Mr. Putin’s war machine. Anything less would allow Russia to consolidate and rearm, while Ukrainians under occupation suffer.
Mr. Putin made his intentions clear in a televised appearance on June 9, birthday of Peter the Great. Like Peter, Mr. Putin said he plans to “reclaim” lost lands. Unlike Peter, who modernized Russia and brought it closer to Europe, Mr. Putin is isolating Russia and moving it into a dark age. While dictators usually lie about everything they do, they are often candid about what they would like to do. Mr. Putin has long talked about rebuilding his beloved Soviet Empire. This week’s St. Petersburg International Economic Forum featured the presentation of a map of “former Ukraine,” from Kyiv to Odessa. Colonialism is not a Western European invention, despite what some progressives seem to think.
The escalation Mr. Biden and other Western leaders say they fear if they take stronger action to support Ukraine is guaranteed by their caution. Ukraine is the frontline now, but if Mr. Putin succeeds, he won’t stop there. A direct confrontation with North Atlantic Treaty Organization forces will become inevitable. If the goal is Ukrainian victory, the White House must say so clearly and everything Ukraine needs must be sent now.
During World War II, the American lend-lease program delivered millions of tons of materiel to the Soviet Union. I refuse to believe that it’s harder to get a few hundred howitzers into Ukraine today than it was to ship trucks and tanks past Nazi U-boats. Ukraine is running out of everything, even bullets. The U.S. has the way but not the will.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced another formidable Ukrainian military aid program at the Ramstein Air Base in Germany on Wednesday. The package includes some of the longer-range weapons Ukraine desperately needs. That’s good, but more is needed. Stop talking about negotiated outcomes that will only give Mr. Putin time to prepare his next attack. Helping Ukraine isn’t charity. Democracy can’t be defended on the cheap. The high cost of inflation will be nothing compared with the price Vladimir Putin will exact if he isn’t stopped now.
Mr. Kasparov is chairman of the Renew Democracy Initiative.
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Awakened to Putin’s Threat, Biden and the West Nod Off Again
By Garry Kasparov (Russian former Chess Champion) June 17, 2022
Now we know the high cost of that failure to act—the slaughter, destruction and war crimes in Ukraine, and the food and fuel crises around the world. Instead of working to contain Mr. Putin in the eight years since he first invaded Ukraine, instead of insulating themselves against blackmail by becoming less dependent on Russian exports, American and European governments kicked the can down the road.
Mr. Biden may be besieged politically, but Mr. Zelensky is besieged literally, as Ukraine suffers great loss of life in its defense of the eastern Donbas region. The only way to end the war is by helping Ukraine regain its territory and sovereignty and destroying Mr. Putin’s war machine. Anything less would allow Russia to consolidate and rearm, while Ukrainians under occupation suffer.
The escalation Mr. Biden and other Western leaders say they fear if they take stronger action to support Ukraine is guaranteed by their caution. Ukraine is the frontline now, but if Mr. Putin succeeds, he won’t stop there. A direct confrontation with North Atlantic Treaty Organization forces will become inevitable. If the goal is Ukrainian victory, the White House must say so clearly and everything Ukraine needs must be sent now.
I agree.
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A human interest story:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/06/27/a-ukrainian-refugees-fight-to-save-the-family-she-left-behind
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source: wikipedia.org
Really think they gonna just run out? Sure, their exports will dwindle due to 'domestic use', but otherwise I doubt the factories have shuttered their doors.
Back in Jan/Feb time before the invasion it was said that Russia could only afford financially to field an army on readyness around Ukraine for about 6 months to June/July time before the financial burden starts to get too much and they would have to demobilise. So they must be near the point now where he financial burden is really starting to bite. On top of that Factories need to be paid for what they produce in terms of armaments. Apart from some ammo & shells I doubt Russia is capable anymore of producing heavy armaments or they would have done so already. I just don't think the finance or knowhow is there. Everything says to me they only had so much resources to devote to military development and that went into a few specific areas, mostly missiles possibly a little into ships, subs. Most of their airforce old, tanks are old, most of their ships till recent old and many still are, infantry equipment is old. It's almost like seeing the old Soviet army pop up for some sort of historical re-enactment show, everything antiquated and worth a ganders if only in wonderment as to why they are using such old pieces of sh*t. Faced with a NATO army, even one as small as the UK alone I am pretty definite that we would smash them in next to no time and have them running for the hills. It's only their nukes and our defensive nature that keep us from doing that and I'm not even convinced if their nukes are in launchable condition without blowing up in their faces now.
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This is a good article on the effect of sanctions on Russia.
http://cepa.org/russia-begins-to-pay-the-price-for-sanctions/
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Back in Jan/Feb time before the invasion it was said that Russia could only afford financially to field an army on readyness around Ukraine for about 6 months to June/July time before the financial burden starts to get too much and they would have to demobilise. So they must be near the point now where he financial burden is really starting to bite. On top of that Factories need to be paid for what they produce in terms of armaments. Apart from some ammo & shells I doubt Russia is capable anymore of producing heavy armaments or they would have done so already. I just don't think the finance or knowhow is there.
Russia has the manpower and resources to produce a vast array of armaments. The only limitation regards highly technical devices reliant on imported electronic 'chips' and other items that cannot be produced by Russia or its allies. The latter can and is already being addressed by smuggling these items into Russia in manners that bypass import and export sanctions.
If necessary, Russia has a political and economic environment that would allow workers and factories to produce at near zero cost. After all, they can print as many 100 Ruble notes as they wish, and have practically infinite energy and raw natural resources available domestically. Those production lines can run indefinitely and even expand if the 'will of the people' can be maintained with propaganda or force.
I think you vastly underestimate the situation.
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There are reports today that the orc Warship "Saratov" is on fire in occupied Berdyansk.
If that name sounds familiar well "Saratov " is the name of the orc landing-craft that Ukraine claimed to be destroyed and sunk in Berdyansk...blocking the harbour in March.
There is more fake news in this war than in a football transfer window...and that's saying something.
I guess as it's Russia and Ukraine involved we couldn't expect anything else.
I've a mind to forget all about this war for six months then take a look to see where things stand then...because the spurious reports from both sides are getting tiresome.
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Team Biden has to approve this and will never do it.
Ukraine would have to pay for it or Israel will never do it.
Ukraine Wants Israel's Iron Dome Defense System
http://www.newsweek.com/korniychuk-ukraine-israel-russia-war-iron-dome-military-rafael-1713757
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This is a good article on the effect of sanctions on Russia.
http://cepa.org/russia-begins-to-pay-the-price-for-sanctions/
Bwahahaha, LMAO! Very balanced analysis... not. Have a look at who funds CEPA: http://cepa.org/about/our-supporters/
Russia's inflation rate is similar to the US rate of (consumer) inflation:
http://tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
The world is headed for global recession. Hopefully we're not headed for a global hot war. BTW the RUB is now trading at 55, the strongest since 2015. The markets are smarter than any analysts. What are the markets saying? Russia is not only 'winning' this conflict but decisively. (we all lose in war) The China-Russia alliance is a SUPER POWER. Not without problems but ascendant. Even the Indian foreign minister told Europe to go suck a dick. Global power is heading east. The glory days are well and truly over for the west. We'll get to 'enjoy' the Great Reset (ergo, great depression).
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I've a mind to forget all about this war for six months then take a look to see where things stand then...because the spurious reports from both sides are getting tiresome.
My rule of thumb is to wait 49 days before drawing any conclusions from media reporting. Typically by then a more complete picture is available.
The sources that have been accurately reporting (or predicting) 7+ weeks ago are probably worth listening to, if not it's likely propaganda.
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Bwahahaha, LMAO! Very balanced analysis... not. Have a look at who funds CEPA: http://cepa.org/about/our-supporters/
Russia's inflation rate is similar to the US rate of (consumer) inflation:
http://tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
The world is headed for global recession. Hopefully we're not headed for a global hot war. BTW the RUB is now trading at 55, the strongest since 2015. The markets are smarter than any analysts. What are the markets saying? Russia is not only 'winning' this conflict but decisively. (we all lose in war) The China-Russia alliance is a SUPER POWER. Not without problems but ascendant. Even the Indian foreign minister told Europe to go suck a dick. Global power is heading east. The glory days are well and truly over for the west. We'll get to 'enjoy' the Great Reset (ergo, great depression).
The article is written by a Russian, who is an expert on Russia.
In Soviet times, the ruble was worth twice as much as the dollar. The Soviet economy was a disaster.
No matter what you wish to believe, economically, Russia is a basket case.
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No matter what you wish to believe, economically, Russia is a basket case.
Public debt/GDP (http://take-profit.org/en/statistics/government-debt-to-gdp/):
USA 137%
Canada 118%
Russia 18%
Private debt/GDP (http://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/private-debt-to-gdp):
USA 236%
Canada 304% (hello multi-decade housing bubble)
Russia ??
Household debt/GDP (2018, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_household_debt):
USA 76%
Canada 101%
Russia 17%
External debt (http://take-profit.org/en/statistics/government-debt-to-gdp/):
USA 23 trillion
Canada 2.5 trillion
Russia 0.5 trillion
GDP value (http://take-profit.org/en/statistics/gdp/):
USA 20.9T
Canada 1.6T
Russia 1.5T
Debt per citizen (http://worlddebtclocks.com):
USA 65,000 USD
Canada 32,000 CAD
Russia 88,000 RUB
Current Account to GDP (2021; http://take-profit.org/en/statistics/current-account-to-gdp/):
USA -3.6%
Canada 0.1%
Russia 6.8%
Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. Russia's economy WAS a basket case. It has many problems but you can't keep racking up debt and think it's not going to matter.
Income is much lower in Russia but so are debt and living expenses. The USA and Russia have a similar Gini coefficient, Russia's is actually lower: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
You want to know an economic basket case? Ukraine. It'll be a sink hole for years (unless you're politically connected, in which case it will be boom times).
If you read a financial news site like zerohedge you may actually learn a thing or two. :P
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Your primary argument is that Russia has a lower debt ratio to income compared to the west, and so that makes Russia economically superior to the west
If you compared the debt ratio of billionaires to homeless people, you’d find the billionaires also have a higher debt ratio – which according to your argument, makes homeless people economically superior to billionaires, so AS EVEN YOU CAN SEE, your arguments look pretty fookin dumb…
and THIS is what you learned from zerohedge…
with this level of an "intellect"
I can see why you can’t find a girlfriend...
sad...
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Public debt/GDP (http://take-profit.org/en/statistics/government-debt-to-gdp/):
USA 137%
Canada 118%
Russia 18%
Private debt/GDP (http://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/private-debt-to-gdp):
USA 236%
Canada 304% (hello multi-decade housing bubble)
Russia ??
Household debt/GDP (2018, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_household_debt):
USA 76%
Canada 101%
Russia 17%
External debt (http://take-profit.org/en/statistics/government-debt-to-gdp/):
USA 23 trillion
Canada 2.5 trillion
Russia 0.5 trillion
GDP value (http://take-profit.org/en/statistics/gdp/):
USA 20.9T
Canada 1.6T
Russia 1.5T
Debt per citizen (http://worlddebtclocks.com):
USA 65,000 USD
Canada 32,000 CAD
Russia 88,000 RUB
Current Account to GDP (2021; http://take-profit.org/en/statistics/current-account-to-gdp/):
USA -3.6%
Canada 0.1%
Russia 6.8%
Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. Russia's economy WAS a basket case. It has many problems but you can't keep racking up debt and think it's not going to matter.
Income is much lower in Russia but so are debt and living expenses. The USA and Russia have a similar Gini coefficient, Russia's is actually lower: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
You want to know an economic basket case? Ukraine. It'll be a sink hole for years (unless you're politically connected, in which case it will be boom times).
If you read a financial news site like zerohedge you may actually learn a thing or two. :P
Zerohedge isn’t a financial site. It’s an alt right aggregator.
I studied some economics in university.
I never claimed Ukraine’s economy was good. But Russia’s is about the same. The only difference is, Russia has an in demand commodity, which they have managed poorly.
The US has the ability to raise revenue very easily, if need be. Canada’s position is far more precarious.
Nevertheless, I agree with krimster. You cannot compare Western economies and Russia. The latter is a basket case, which Putin seems hellbent on destroying.
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Your primary argument is that Russia has a lower debt ratio to income compared to the west, and so that makes Russia economically superior to the west
If you compared the debt ratio of billionaires to homeless people, you’d find the billionaires also have a higher debt ratio – which according to your argument, makes homeless people economically superior to billionaires, so AS EVEN YOU CAN SEE, your arguments look pretty fookin dumb…
LOL. I didn't say Russia was superior, I said the economy wasn't a basket case. Billionaires need cash flow to service debt.
Russia's cash flow (current account surplus TRIPLED): http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-16/russia-current-account-surplus-surges-to-96-billion-on-energy
USA's deficit: http://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306
Hello printing press!
The "Russia's economy is a basket case" comes from the same thinking of "Russia will be crushed into oblivion by sanctions". And Biden's around for another 2+ years? LMAO, yeah vive la zapad!
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Zerohedge isn’t a financial site. It’s an alt right aggregator.
ZH was formed by ex-Wall Street guys providing financial reporting. Go back to 2009 archives if they're still available. It's all finance articles.
Since that time they've branched out and published 'general news' from a variety of sources. They still author their own content. Unlike mainstream media they are genuinely independent, hence "alt-right". After all they called Trump in 2016 when everyone else was gushing over President Hillary.
I'm not 'praising' the Russian economy, I just don't think it is in as bad a shape as western talking heads want to make you believe.
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BTW the RUB is now trading at 55, the strongest since 2015.
May 19 (Reuters) - Russia's central bank said on Thursday banks would be allowed to sell citizens foreign currency without any restrictions from May 20, with the exception of U.S. dollars and euros.
Restrictions on dollars and euros, which allow citizens to buy only those dollars and euros that arrived in banks after April 9, will remain in place until Sept. 9, the central bank said.
Reporting by Reuters; Editing by Angus MacSwan
http://www.reuters.com/business/finance/russian-ease-restrictions-cash-fx-apart-us-dollars-euros-2022-05-19/
Taking into account that outside RU, practically nobody will give you dollars for the ruble, and inside RU buying dollars with the ruble is also practically impossible, I can only interpret that these factors are artificially propping up a theoretical, but not practical monetary value.
And now even holding USD in a RU bank will cost you money.
So if you had USD or EUR in a RU bank prior to April 9, you can't withdraw, and if you keep it in the bank fees and negative interest rates applied will eat it up, which is just another way of slowly confiscating these currencies from account holders
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http://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-tinkoff-charge-monthly-1-fee-fx-accounts-reduce-exposure-2022-06-09/
So back to my original question from a while ago you seem to have conveniently ignored it.. If I send you RUB, will you send me EUR or USD, and at what exchange rate? What is the Ruble really worth to you?
I guess my response is along the line of 'Put up or shut up'...
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So back to my original question from a while ago you seem to have conveniently ignored it.. If I send you RUB, will you send me EUR or USD, and at what exchange rate? What is the Ruble really worth to you?
I guess my response is along the line of 'Put up or shut up'...
Any one willing to trade USD for any foreign currency would do it upon speculation. USD is still the reserve currency but, that is fading fast. I will offer you $1 USD per 140 RUB
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Good example that illustrates my point FP.
I think I'll pass on your generous offer though :)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ivandjiiski
Zerohedge was founded by Даниел Иванджийски, (changed his name to Daniel K. Ivandjiiski when he moved to USA) who in 2008 was charged with gaining US$780 from an insider trade on 14–15 March 2006. On 3 September 2008, FINRA reached their decision, published on 11 September 2008, that Daniel K. Ivandjiiski was to be barred from acting as a broker or otherwise associating with a broker-dealer firm, and from being a FINRA member
in other words, he’s a freakin pro-Russian moron
so blogging is the only thing open to him
sure go ahead and slurp up whatever he posts, cuz it’s MEANT for people JUST LIKE YOU!
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Looks like the orcs have made some gains in Sievierodonetsk and the Ukrainians are barely holding on and may not be able to hold out for much longer. Ideally those Howitzers & Mobile Long Range Launchers from the west need to get there pretty soon by the looks of things or the Ukrainians may be pushed out.
In the south some better news as Ukrainian forces are advancing on Kherson and seem to be only a few miles outside the city now, so a reversal of fortune there. Only thing is, is that now Ukrainian citizens may be at risk of shelling from the Howitzers of their own forces as the Ukrainian army try to displace the orcs there. With that in mind the Ukrainian government has asked it's citizens to leave Kherson by any means possible. I'm not sure how likely that is as crossing the lines can be very dangerous especially trying to explain it to the orcs who have been known to shoot people trying. It has been suggested that they might use the Crimea land route but that again depends on whether the orcs allow it and whether they might end up stuck in Russia permanently. It looks like the orcs may use Kherson's citizens as a human shield if it comes to it, that would be pretty appalling were it to happen so let's hope it doesn't get to that.
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Good info on the situation with the Howitzers out in Ukraine at the moment:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/06/23/the-russians-are-targeting-ukraines-american-made-howitzers/amp/
Looks like plenty of Howitzers are now entering the field many from the US and are knocking out a lot of the orcs old Soviet stuff. Still a way to go most likely but it looks like Russia isn't liking the threat they pose and are using anything they can possibly do to take a few of them out. With the US holding about 1000 more Howitzers most of them redundant my guess is Ukraine could gain the upper hand with them.
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Good example that illustrates my point FP.
I think I'll pass on your generous offer though :)
That's too bad. The offer now stands at $1 per 160 RUB. How much confidence do you have that Russia's economy is a basket case anyway? I'm just making this offer to help a bruvver out and dispose of the worthless currency. :D
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Hey FP,
Oh, I think the damage is considerable and will get worse as other countries re-orient their energy needs and sources. The real damage goes far beyond the immediate effects being felt now. It will take decades, or more for RU to build back any meaningful level of international trust necessary to be a part of, and participate in the world economy. The only thing keeping them afloat is natural resources created millions of years ago.
So yes, I think such fits the definition of a basket case.
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Since that time they've branched out and published 'general news' from a variety of sources. They still author their own content. Unlike mainstream media they are genuinely independent, hence "alt-right". After all they called Trump in 2016 when everyone else was gushing over President Hillary.
I'm not 'praising' the Russian economy, I just don't think it is in as bad a shape as western talking heads want to make you believe.
You must not have access to much American media. Other than MSNBC, no one was "gushing" over President Hillary. Everything at the time predicted a close election. Michael Moore predicted a Trump win very early, and he is a huge Democrat supporter. Bill Clinton wanted to campaign in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, as he saw those were extremely tight races, and believed she needed more campaigning there in the last weeks of the election. He was overruled by Robby Mook.
Go read Russian Twitter reports. I don't post on Twitter, and have only started following a couple of analysts during the war. But if you read Russian posts, the economy is suffering, particularly food prices, which have jumped far more than they have in my country. It's not comparable to inflation in the West.
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If I send you RUB, will you send me EUR or USD, and at what exchange rate? What is the Ruble really worth to you?
What rate are you offering?
Russians still travel (hello USD). Plus not all banks are sanctioned.
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It will take decades, or more for RU to build back any meaningful level of international trust necessary to be a part of, and participate in the world economy.
China, India, Brazil, the Middle East, most of Africa and Asia disagree. It's only OECD countries that have gone BPD over Russia. An orientalist world view may overlook this.
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All Russian banks have now been cut from SWIFT.
What’s the Middle East going to buy from Russia? Russia’s biggest export market was the EU.
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What’s the MIddle East going to buy from Russia?
Food, food, food. They don't want another Arab Spring! Here's info on wheat: http://www.zol.ru/n/365ea
Gold. http://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/precious-metals-investing/gold-investing/top-gold-producing-countries/
Armaments. http://www.mei.edu/publications/russia-looks-middle-east-boost-arms-exports
Any domestic production/development may use Russian commodities (iron, steel, wood, materials, etc.). There are a limited number of nuclear reactors in the Middle East, but Russia can build them and supply uranium.
The Middle East doesn't need oil but India does. Oh wait... http://www.livemint.com/news/india/indias-oil-imports-from-russia-jumps-50-times-accounts-for-10-of-all-import-11655998970715.html
Yup, nothing to sell... maybe matryoshka dolls.
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rwd123,
I can agree some countries may want to buy grain from Russia, even gold. Does RU insist on payment in Ruble from these countries? hehehe...
As for armaments, your link from an article posted in 2019 is outdated, likely much different nowadays due to 'domestic consumption. I highly doubt any arms are being exported.
Sure, oil sells as well, but RU is having to give hefty discounts. RU will still make some money on it though.
I doubt any country will be buying nuclear technology from RU going forward aside from any deals already made/under construction. Are there any?
Oh, and by the way, you were the one touting that the Rubble was good value. It's up to you to entice me and not the other way 'round. Show me how valuable it really is. Have you tried buying dollars or EU for Rubble? IMO the official exchange rates are vastly overstated. What's the street value?
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Even at converted prices, Russia has always exported less than $8 billion in wheat. It’s not a winning formula for a prosperous economy.
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Looks like there may be a chance of the Russian Federation de-federating as I said early on in all of this:
http://inews.co.uk/news/world/putin-using-ukraine-war-russia-independence-moscow-1698699
So Pootin could end up losing more territory than he seeks to gain in Ukraine. Once he's run down the state of the army and it seems to be getting towards that now opportunity will likely exist for a break up. If the 22 Republics all break off at about the same time Pootin won't know what to do with it all. It would be good news for us, more FSU countries to visit and possibly some of them with a visa free regime :D
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As for armaments, your link from an article posted in 2019 is outdated, likely much different nowadays due to 'domestic consumption. I highly doubt any arms are being exported.
Sure, oil sells as well, but RU is having to give hefty discounts. RU will still make some money on it though.
Turkey is continuing making payments for S-400 systems: http://news.yahoo.com/erdogan-says-turkey-continues-400-payments-criticises-u-204336302--finance.html
That's one example, DYOR. Arms sales is big business: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/infographic-which-countries-buy-the-most-russian-weapons
Oil sales are at a discount compared to other countries but DOUBLE what has been budgeted by the Russian Federation. We're entering a commodity super cycle which all commodity producers will benefit from.
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Even at converted prices, Russia has always exported less than $8 billion in wheat. It’s not a winning formula for a prosperous economy.
It buys a LOT of political leverage. What's the value in being able to threaten starvation on a country, or offer to avoid such calamity (and political fallout)?
I don't think Russia's too concerned about diverting wheat to other markets, especially when its wheat fields are currently expanding...
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Are they expanding?
Will they have equipment and storage facilities?
I do believe they can ramp up,but how quickly seems much more of any issue.
The west likely has the ability to do so at a faster pace?.
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This may very well be edited footage,
But if not, the new Russian S-180 system seems very effective.
http://youtube.com/shorts/eePHwo7wbtQ?feature=share
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It buys a LOT of political leverage. What's the value in being able to threaten starvation on a country, or offer to avoid such calamity (and political fallout)?
I don't think Russia's too concerned about diverting wheat to other markets, especially when its wheat fields are currently expanding...
Russia’s wheat fields are not expanding. Kherson is being retaken. The wheat growing regions of Zaporizhia are under Ukrainian control, as are the wheat growing regions od Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts, although they grow relatively little wheat.
That “leverage” is unstable. The US and Canada could easily replace Russia as a source of wheat.
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Russia is a freakin mafiya kleptocratic state
read about Paul Klebnikov here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klebnikov
he was the first editor of Russian Forbes Magazine
wrote an article about Russia’s Fortune 100 People
which showed that 25% of Russia’s wealth was owned by about 100 people
who were all inter-connected
he found that 75% of these people gained their fortune, by privitizing big government owned enterprises, like oil and gas, etc
they shot and killed him
OK?
this is the Russia I KNOW..
don't know where you dingo groomers get your infor from Russia from, your aborigines maybe?
right me cobber?
put another little shriveled up shrimp on the barbie
and chug yiur warm Foster's
you thinking you're part of the intelligentsia is just "priceless" humour
as well as your complete lack of self-awarenes
the PIÈCE DE RÉSISTANCE of your sad little existence is NO POOTY TANG for you AT ALL!!!!
only sex you have is with your RIGHT HAND!!!
unless...
YOU'RE LEFT HANDED!!!!
Quick, someone call the ER "Burn Ward" looks like they got a REAL serious case!!
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Good point, krim. Ten families own the majority of Russian farmland and agricultural entities. Foreigners own 5%, and small farmers or the state own 7%.
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Russia was ALWAYS a feudal state, in one way or another...
smart Russians - LEFT!
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Are they expanding?
Where have you been the last four months?
http://liveuamap.com
Russia's not stopping in Donbas.
Boe, Russia has lots of problems, I realize that, but it's not as bad you'd wish. I'd rather live in reality. Russia is not a utopia, however it's not about to collapse like your Azov boys in Mariupol.
A good week however. Roe v. Wade thrown out, expanded gun rights. The sun still rises in the morning. MAGA 2.0 here we come! Trump was right, everything woke turns to shit. Currently sums up the White House, the EU and NATO!
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The Azov Batallion are not “my boys”. I am Canadian.
Russia is a third world s***hole, ruled by a kleptocratic plutocracy. It gives me no pleasure to state this obvious fact.
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The Azov Batallion are not “my boys”. I am Canadian.
Russia is a third world s***hole, ruled by a kleptocratic plutocracy. It gives me no pleasure to state this obvious fact.
Shithole or not, reality eventually catches up with everyone.
http://youtu.be/FJlAKsy5uOk
Kleptocracy or thievocracy, the song always has a similar tune.
http://medium.com/yardcouch-com/blackrock-the-secret-company-that-owns-the-world-b96111277e0f
http://www.farmlandriches.com/largest-farmland-owners/
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Ah, always up for a conspiracy theory.
You forgot to add (to round out the conspiracy), that Blackrock was founded, and is run by, the Joooos.
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A good week however. Roe v. Wade thrown out
Got to say it's good to see Roe v. Wade finally gone in the US, never thought that would happen as it was kind of had become like a cornerstone of the justice system over there I got the impression. I'm not religious at all but I think it was very much a feminist crusade that one so good to see it go all women should have to undergo the joys of pregnancy I think :D Well maybe not the ugly overweight ones lol.
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Well last info I have heard is the Ukrainian army seems to have halted their advance towards Kherson. My guess is that the realisation is that to take the city back they would have to pummel it with artillery to displace the Orcs just like the Orcs did in Mariupol. That of course would be particularly unpleasant to do to their own people and of course you can bet your life the Orcs are keeping enough of the Ukrainians their from leaving to use as their human shield. In Donbass Sievierodonetsk has almost fallen with remaining Ukrainian troops being ordered to retreat so it appears. Probably nothing left if the city to hide within it looks. The howitzers and mobile launchers the west have promised seem to be getting through to Ukraine in general now but looks like probably just not quite made it in time for that city.
Other than that Ukraine & Moldova got candidate status to join the EU though many don't think it will come about fir many, many years, if ever as Ukraine's economy will be too shattered plus remaining concerns over corruption. I personally don't think any country should be allowed to join without it being put to their people first in a referendum otherwise they are being tied up to the EU without their consent with a wish to join being assumed instead of known for certain, that's not democratic in my view. I just don't think Ukraine realises what it's getting itself into in joining the EU. I think they would get quite a surprise if it ever happened, that it wouldn't be as wonderful as some Ukrainians think it would be. In any case at the moment the EU's finances are in the sh*t. Worse still the southern EU member state economies from Greece to Italy are back as concerns over the debt they are taking on and whether they can hold up long term. Looks like in Italy the anti-EU, right wing parties are gaining in popularity quickly, the League, etc and the Five Star are getting pretty unpopular if recent polling holds true, Parliamentary Elections due next year in 2023 apparently, could be interesting.
At the moment it looks like in Ukraine the next move will be with Ukraine to see whether they make a move to counterattack and retake the lost territory or hold firm and wait for Russia to exhaust itself and possible events in Russia to take their course.
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Trench,
my wife delivered two baby girls in California!
California has the most liberal abortion laws
here’s how THIS ACTUALLY AFFECTED ME!
During a pre-natal screening we opted to do a screen of the embryo for Spina Bifida
if a baby is born with this condition
it will never lift its head, feed itself, or say mama, ok?
My wife and I decided to take the test, and if it cam back positive, we’d abort the pregnancy and try again
WE DECIDED TRENCH!!!
not some members of a church being influenced by politicians eager for their vote
not the government
WE DECIDED!!!
see the difference?
why are conservatives ALWAYS against reproductive and sexual freedom?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger
you can't be forced to put on a mask during a severe pandemic
but you can be forced to have your rapist's baby
freedumb
Trench, I have a feeling that you ain't gonna have to worry about abortions, EVER!
OK?
just get yourself a pet of some kind
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why are conservatives ALWAYS against reproductive and sexual freedom?
I am not.
There should be more abortions.
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I am not.
There should be more abortions.
I guess I am considered a 'libtard' here at RWD. Personally, I am against abortion. I do accept though that I, or anyone else for that matter, should not have any authority over this private aspect of other people's lives, ultimately even that of a spouse or other woman I impregnated. The same goes for what consenting adults or even minors do together in their private sphere. I also believe the terminally ill should be afforded the same dignity departing this life as I provide my ailing dogs or cats.
Human rights to freedom and happiness lie above the limited words written in our Constitution.
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Krimster: why are conservatives ALWAYS against reproductive and sexual freedom?
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So much for trying to label people.
I am a conservative who is for abortion, and more of them.
BC is a liberal who is against abortion.
I agree with BC on the other matter that people should be able to end their own lives as they wish. I am a member of Exit International and have my nitrogen tank and mask. http://www.exitinternational.net/
We need to move this to another thread also.
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Trench,
my wife delivered two baby girls in California!
California has the most liberal abortion laws
here’s how THIS ACTUALLY AFFECTED ME!
During a pre-natal screening we opted to do a screen of the embryo for Spina Bifida
if a baby is born with this condition
it will never lift its head, feed itself, or say mama, ok?
My wife and I decided to take the test, and if it cam back positive, we’d abort the pregnancy and try again
WE DECIDED TRENCH!!!
not some members of a church being influenced by politicians eager for their vote
not the government
WE DECIDED!!!
see the difference?
why are conservatives ALWAYS against reproductive and sexual freedom?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger
you can't be forced to put on a mask during a severe pandemic
but you can be forced to have your rapist's baby
freedumb
Trench, I have a feeling that you ain't gonna have to worry about abortions, EVER!
OK?
just get yourself a pet of some kind
Well makes sense to not have the child if the child is not healthy of course, didn't know it stopped that as well. Wouldn't feel right myself having a child who couldn't live a decent full life as would feel kind of cruel doing that.
Well Sievierodonetsk has fallen, looks like the new flashpoint is the city just south of there, with a bit of luck Ukraine will be able to get the howitzers & mobile launchers there soon.
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ML,
you should use Helium and not Nitrogen!
that way, you can make funny voices during this process, "hey boss, de plane"
are you keeping this in case Biden wins another term?
if I ever wanted euthanasia, i'd go outside, get mud on my shoes
and then walk all over my wife's wooden floors without taking off the shoes
I'd be a goner for sure
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Well makes sense to not have the child if the child is not healthy of course, didn't know it stopped that as well. Wouldn't feel right myself having a child who couldn't live a decent full life as would feel kind of cruel doing that.
Well Sievierodonetsk has fallen, looks like the new flashpoint is the city just south of there, with a bit of luck Ukraine will be able to get the howitzers & mobile launchers there soon.
He unknowingly made a great example of both pro.life and pro abortion.
Why?
becase spina bifida is so varied in type and degree that his conclusion of prognosis of infants with it is way in.left field.
Yes it can be exactly as desciribed.
It can also be treatable.
It can also be so.mild people have it and do not know thay have it.
The fetal test showing a positve requires more in depth analyisis ,imaginh and tests by physicians.
Although i get krims point and agree with it in principle
(And i'm .a conservative)
;)
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Where have you been the last four months?
http://liveuamap.com
Russia's not stopping in Donbas.
Watching my family sit from.5 to. 30 klicks from.the friont line,and the only direction russian troops have gone is back.
They are in a far far more strategic and valuable location then russias two months of sheiiet show in severodonetsk.
I dint see one extra hectar of wheat planted in ukraine by russia in the 22 growing season and there wont be.
If you have some evidence to.the contrary besides a map showing they are fightimg for control.of 14% more land than the dpr held since 08 let me know,o
Its not like they are farming it,and its certainly not a known they will hold it.
Although they have stolen grain,thats something they can show that would be ready* this year.
No they wont stop at donbas unless forved to.
Thanks for making such a good point.
Hows those new russdian admins snd governors in occupied melitopol.and kheesin doing?
One was killed a dsy after the possibility* he was a likely candidate was announced, thd other resigned yesterday after a few attacks in the area by partisans.
Good look holding that farm ground.
My opinion is they will make some gains until.august,then be damned lucky to.hold what dnr had prior, by december
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Surely, one side or the other will at least ATTEMPT to end the current stale-mate
by creating some kinda “strategic shift” in the near future, almost certainly after summer
if I were Ukraine, I’d add a MUCH larger “partisan” effort to this war
and you don’t need advanced weapons for that
I'd also use western money to offer bounties to partisan groups who kill Russian soldiers
how about recruiting a couple of thousand young female snipers (good lookin ones ONLY!!)
and issue them Mosin Nagant PU91/30 with Scope
did you ever see the movie “Sevastpol”?
it’s on youtube if not
so imagine a couple of thousand of them, and their numbers won’t come out of the forces you directly mobilize for front-line use
and pay them bounties for each soldier killed, with bonuses starting at 10 and up
and they are distributed the full length of the Russian front-lines
then I’d have multiple IED factories turning captured Russian shells, bombs into IEDS
and there would be about 100 IED attacks per week, military barracks, logistics, etc
also with bounties
you'd be amazed at how MOTIVATED you can make Ukrainians this way!!!
this would be a threshing machine for chewing up Russians
with no big pieces of hardware
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A recent article on the state of the military situation out in Ukraine on the front line:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-80-of-troops-killed-or-injured-in-elite-military-unit-says-commander-and-its-future-is-unclear-12639752
Heavy losses on both sides it appears with Russia taking the heaviest. Looks like both sides are moving new recruits to the front now. Like was said earlier is becoming a war of attrition. Although the heavy armaments may get depleted especially on the Russian side my guess is that both sides can keep at it like this for quite some time. The losses of men are heavy but both can likely call up many more men. Ukraine has conscripted all Ukrainian men aged 18-65 in the country while Russia has a huge country (at the moment) from which to pluck them from. My guess is that at the current rate of losses many Russian & Ukrainian families will end up without their men in future.
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the West needs to get more aggressive with Russia
not just a little slap in the face
but a hard kick to the testicles followed by a punch to the chin
and you know what, you English speaking peoples
I know how to do that
here's how:
to kill a big-assed Texas rattlesnake, you don't cut-off its tail, you cut off its HEAD!
ponelle?
Google "putin offshore company" and look at the billions and billions and billions
we already got some of it!
but I say, GET IT ALL, EVERY FREAKIN KOPEC!!!
and put this money in a trust fund, (administed by anyone but Ukrainians)
and use it to pay Ukrainian partisans
the payroll of 100,000 male and female partisans, for a couple of years would be a tiny fraction of Putin's off-shore wealth
buy their weapons as well, no "heavy stuff" required
sniper rifles, unexploded artillery shells, batteries, etc
Russians would be cut to shreds in a year
OTOH, if Putin eascaltes
the most important things for him will be if the West ALSO escalates, if they don't, then HE scores a small victory against the west
we'll see if the West decides to use the impending developing world wheat famine
to lay the ground work, for the US Navy, to bring anti-missile frigates to the black sea to protect Odesa from missile attack
as well as protect inbound and outbound wheat laden freighters with destroyer escorts
huge historical precedent for this from a century ago!!!
google "USS WHIPPLE" go to the entry for the one in the Black Sea in 1919!!!
it would be CRAZY if the US Navy had a ship with this name, and it led the fleet into the Black Sea in 2023 to save Odesa
CRAZY!
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As time goes on, Ukraine will be favored because they are continuing to get more and better equipment from the West. Russian soldiers and Russian public will become more and more inclined to rebel against Putin. Ukrainian people will never give up because they are being invaded.
As time goes on, Russia will be favored because the West will become weary of spending so much money and resources on Ukraine when there are so many pressing fiscal problems in the home countries. Russian people will never become weary no matter how many of their young men are killed; it's in their DNA to suffer and allow their young men to be killed.
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As time goes on, Ukraine will be favored because they are continuing to get more and better equipment from the West. Russian soldiers and Russian public will become more and more inclined to rebel against Putin. Ukrainian people will never give up because they are being invaded.
As time goes on, Russia will be favored because the West will become weary of spending so much money and resources on Ukraine when there are so many pressing fiscal problems in the home countries. Russian people will never become weary no matter how many of their young men are killed; it's in their DNA to suffer and allow their young men to be killed.
An interesting recent article here on this:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61938351.amp
Basically France & Germany are wavering already, sure I understand the economic pressures they are under moreso Germany which has been dependant on Russian Oil & Gas, but they have been using that cheap oil & gas in my opinion to get their economy in no.1 spot for many years now. I personally think it's only fair they have to give as a result of that now.
I do think that Boris is right on ensuring Russia don't win in Ukraine or they will just become a bigger beast. It sounds like propping up Ukraine though is costing a lot and the money and armaments are being burned through fast!
I personally think we need to come full out on sanctions now and Ukraine to hit Russia hard in the field to try to end this quickly, if it drags on a long time and Russia is able to keep in the fight then western economies might become over burdened to keep supplying Ukraine. So far though I'm guessing Russia's army must be getting pretty worn down now.
My favourite bit of the article:
The prime minister told CNN he thought Brexit had allowed the UK to better assist Ukraine in defending itself against Russia.
"I don't think that we would have been out in front as the first European country to arm the Ukrainians," he said. :D
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if I ever wanted euthanasia, i'd go outside, get mud on my shoes
and then walk all over my wife's wooden floors without taking off the shoes
I'd be a goner for sure
Hahahhaha!
Thank you for that
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it wasn't SO FUNNY the one and only time I didn't take my shoes off before coming in the house when I was first married...
learned a lotta new Russian words that day, AND had to clean the floor...
AND had my sex ration greatly reduce for about a week
I DEFINITELY NEVER did that again!!
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Hey rwd, here’s what your boys are doing-
http://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=488&v=2D_Ogifqm2c&feature=emb_logo
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Here's more of their war tactics - bombing a "legitimate" target shopping centre in Poltava, where there are no troops from either side -
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-invasion-day-124-1.6502606
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http://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-does-russian-ruble-rise-prove-western-sanctions-dont-work-1718387
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Another factor in the ruble’s value is sanctions. Importers don’t need to convert rubles to other currencies, which inflates the ruble’s value.
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Another factor in the ruble’s value is sanctions. Importers don’t need to convert rubles to other currencies, which inflates the ruble’s value.
Also just fewer imports into Russia.
But anyway, discussions such as this are mostly useless because we are trying to analyze the weight of factors in a free market for rubles.
The market for rubles is manipulated by Russian government away from its free market equilibrium value. There are many tools available to do this. But often when countries try this, they soon run out of capability to do so. It is uncertain in my mind what resources Russia has to maintain an artificial value. Gold reserves comes to mind.
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I think you are vastly underestimating the challenges involved 2tall.
I talked to somebody who knows far more than I do along with many of
the challenges involved and you are right and I was wrong. I am humbled
by how wrong I was.
I apologize.
Bill
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Hi 2tall,
when learning, apologies are unnecessary. Thanks for digging in a bit deeper, and confirming my thoughts were somewhere in the ballpark.
I did see an article recently that additional HIMARS are on the way, and that training started in early June or even before. Seems it takes around a month to train crews.
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/06/us-sending-more-himars-artillery-ukraine/368556/
http://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3049912/dr-colin-kahl-under-secretary-of-defense-for-policy-holds-a-press-briefing/
This does seem to show that a lot of deliberate and forward-thinking planning is going on that we may not be able to see at first glance.
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When the orcs are struggling they turn their anger on civilians..hence the missile strike on a packed shopping mall in Kremenchuk yesterday.
It's their MO.
The reason the orcs are now struggling are the HIMARS...hence Putler's desperate dash to the Kremlin at 11pm on Saturday night.He knows he's in big trouble.
Everyday there are videos of HIMARS strikes on Ammunition depots way behind the orc front lines and the orcs can't cope with it...and they're the ones we know about,we won't know about the ones that weren't video'd and put out there by the locals.
The only place the HIMARS can't reach in Ukraine is Crimea,and the orcs will find it tough to re-supply from there with Ukrainian Artillery and HIMARS watching and waiting to hit their supply columns from there.
The latest strike was reportedly on a orc military base in Perevalsk in Luhansk region...with many orc casualties.
Many military analysts forecast that May and June would be tough for Ukraine.but that July and August would be tough for the orcs.
Some are forecasting a Kyiv -style fleeing in terror again from Ukraine for the orcs in September...hopefully they're correct...we shall see.
More HIMARS arriving in Ukraine shortly >:D
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Big explosion at the orc airbase in Kursk just now.
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Turkey lifts veto on Finland, Sweden joining NATO, clearing path for expansion
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-press-turkey-finland-sweden-hope-nato-breakthrough-2022-06-28/
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After being totally pummelled by Ukrainian Artillery last night the orcs have now abandoned and retreated from Snake Island.
Confirmed by both the Ukraine and orc Ministry of Defences.
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144 Ukrainian POW returned to Ukraine yesterday, being swapped for the same number of orc's.
95 of them fought for Azovstal,including 43 from the Azov Battalion.
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There will be very little up to date news on verifiable Ukrainian military operations being released from now on.
This is because the Ukrainian Military has asked reliable sources to keep news about what is happening quiet,as releasing news quickly can be detrimental to their operatiions.
So the news will be released through official sources when it is the right time to do so.
Suffice to say that as things currently stand the orcs continue to make gains in the Luhansk region,but are either stalled or losing ground everywhere else in Ukraine.
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Chealseaboy,
and just announced an additional 800 million along with air defense systems. I suspect training has already started somewhere.
There will be very little up to date news on verifiable Ukrainian military operations being released from now on.
This is because the Ukrainian Military has asked reliable sources to keep news about what is happening quiet,as releasing news quickly can be detrimental to their operatiions.
That sounds like significant offensive actions are underway.
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After being totally pummelled by Ukrainian Artillery last night the orcs have now abandoned and retreated from Snake Island.
Confirmed by both the Ukraine and orc Ministry of Defences.
Apparently you missed the Russian declaration that they withdrew from Snake Island as a gesture of goodwill toward helping start grain exports.
They are the good guys here. Try to keep up.
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Apparently you missed the Russian declaration that they withdrew from Snake Island as a gesture of goodwill toward helping start grain exports.
They are the good guys here. Try to keep up.
If they didn't have Nukes they'd be a joke.
I'm sure you've seen the video Jumper posted on here with one of their SAM's boomeranging on itself when fired.
I've seen a video of one of their much -vaunted Iskander missiles being launched toward Ukraine from Belgorad and blowing up in the sky above the launch pad.
They keep threatening us with Nukes but it has to be a 50/50 chance that the first one they launched would end up Nuking them. >:D
First of all they said the Kremenchuk shopping mall attack was staged by Ukraine,then they later changed the story saying it was their missile attack but they were targeting a Ukrainian military facility nearby,whch journalists at the scene say is another lie.
There are photo's out there of Snake Island ablaze last night..so the orcs telling lies again...they were clearly kicked-off the island.
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Chealseaboy,
and just announced an additional 800 million along with air defense systems. I suspect training has already started somewhere.
That sounds like significant offensive actions are underway.
They showed 450 Ukrainian troops training at Salisbury Plain here in the UK this week on Sky News today.
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They showed 450 Ukrainian troops training at Salisbury Plain here in the UK this week on Sky News today.
Other live-fire training areas in the EU, maybe even in the US are likely pretty booked up as well.
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Whilst the orcs have been getting their daily perverted kicks by firing missiles into residential areas and killing civilians again,this time in Odesa,the Ukrainian military have been busy hitting more logistical orc targets in Ukraine today.
1/Yet another orc ammo depot was blown up ,this time in Yasinovataya,Donbas.
2/ An orc oil depot was destroyed by a Tochka U missile in Rovensky,Donbas..which is approx 100km behind the orc front lines.
3/ Warehouses,which according to the locals were used by the orc soldiers,were shelled and are now on fire in Kiselivka village near Kherson.
Hopefully there were plenty of orcs inside the warehouses at the time of the shelling.
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Interesting article here:
http://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-retaking-kherson-could-create-battle-similar-mariupol-1720799
It's essentially saying what I had been saying a little while ago that the Ukrainians would have to fire on and destroy their own city, Kherson if they tried to retake it. On that front it seems better that they don't as apart from the loss of life the destruction of the city would make it a pointless endeavour. As the article points out Ukraine would struggle to cross and take positions the other side of the river just to the eastern side of Kherson and so the Orcs would blast Kherson from there also. So my guess would be that Ukrainian troops won't advance a lot more towards Kherson and will dig in where they can if they can and roughly hold the line.
So odds are Ukraine would have to concentrate on a counter offensive in Donbas and probably from Zap down towards Melitopol and take back Kherson that way by surrounding the city along with trying to retake Mariupol & possibly latee Crimea.
Looks like the Orcs will soon be pushed on the defensive as they exhaust their army and Ukraine gets its western armaments and trained troops to the front. Odds are I'm guessing is that it will occur around about the same time so a sea change in the war soon hopefully in favour of Ukraine.
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HIMARS destroyed an orc arms depot near Popasna,Luhansk region today...the ensuing mushroom cloud looks like a Nuke has gone off,it's that big.
Ukrainian artillery are really impressed with the HIMARS.They're saying if they'd received them earlier the orcs would have been kicked out of Ukraine by now.
Big fire at Chernobaevka in the vicinity of Kherson ,as explosions from incoming Ukrainian shelling heard today.
Local residents claim they were orc positions being hit.
Norway announces $1 billion aid for Ukraine.
This comes on top of the £1 billion from the UK and the $800 million from the USA announced during the week.
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One of four orc military bases in Melitopol destroyed last night.
There now seems to be a daily Ukrainian strategy of concentrating their efforts on destroying the orc military infrastructure in Ukraine.
This is allied to engaging in battle with the orcs in the Donbas region,killing as many of them as possible ,then withdrawing ...drawing the orcs deeper into Ukraine whilst cutting off their weapons supply through destroying their ammo/weapons depots.
Could well end up with the orcs encircled ,running low on ammo and weapons and being massacred ..let's hope so .
The Ukrainian troops wouldn't even need to engage with the orcs very much anymore..just sit back and enjoy the show as the HIMARS obliterate the orcs at long-range. >:D
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Another orc ammunition depot is now on fire in Ukraine.
This one is at Chervonogvardiysky district ,Donetsk.
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Ukrainian forces withdraw from Lysychansk, their last holdout in key region
http://www.cnn.com/2022/07/03/europe/russia-ukraine-luhansk-lysychansk-intl/index.html
Lysychansk seems to have fallen quickly but I think it's been under attack for some time ever since Sievierodonetsk was, even still I got the impression that Sievierodonetsk was bearing the brunt of the attacks so had kind of though Ukraine would hold out a bit longer in Lysychansk. The Russians had to cross the river to Lysychansk which they had trouble with before so strategically it's not great for Ukraine and makes me wonder if Ukrainian forces are weakened a lot. Still the fighting will no doubt move to other cities in Ukraine and a lot of western armaments, howitzers & mobile launchers will no doubt increasingly be putting in an appearance from here on onwards.
The report cites some small Ukrainian wins on targets in other areas so not all bad news. My guess is that Russia will start running out of steam in the next few days to weeks so that will be good to see also.
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Spectacular firework display at Snizhne ,Donetsk province last night,as HIMARS destroyed a big orc arms depot.
Update :
An orc equipment depot in Petrovsky district,Donetsk is on fire today after being hit by Ukrainian artillery.
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Also orc ammunition depots at Yakovlivka ,Donetsk region and in the area of Donetsk railway station were destroyed today.
It's claimed 12 orc ammunition and equipment depots were destroyed by Ukrainian artillery and HIMARS today,although i've personally only seen videos of 4 of them up in flames.
Ammo depot in Tuva,Russia also on fire today.
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Two more orc ammo depots destroyed this morning.
Kadivka in Luhansk region.
Big one at the "Kamaz center " in Donetsk currently exploding now.
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That's great news CB finally the Himars are reaching the front and destroying Russian targets crucially helping to degrade the Russian military ability to fight:
http://news.sky.com/story/himar-system-the-new-us-weapon-being-used-by-ukraine-against-russian-targets-12646263
Looks like the US finally pulled their finger out ;D
Their on the front line near Dnipro/Zap and no doubt will be getting towards the Luhansk region that has just fallen to the Russians and will help the fight back their soon I'm sure.
Today Zelensky made a comment about the conflict being over by Christmas, not really a great date to choose given past history in WWI over such comments that were dashed. Many commentators were dubious if that would be the case. Just have to see how things go I guess.
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There is a big fire in the centre of Kherson today.
Reportedly it's a plastics warehouse,but from the sound of the subsequent detonations the orcs were using it as an ammo depot.
Sabotage is the likely cause.
Update is that,according to locals, the cause of the fire was a gas cylinder explosion ,with the fire spreading, and it has not been confirmed that ammo was stored there.
There has been another orc ammo depot destroyed by Ukrainian artillery at Kuibyshevsky district,Donetsk today.
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Here's video of the building on fire -
http://youtu.be/vOtnhYKNJSI
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Well Boris has resigned as PM, looks like a load of selfish backstabbers had it in for him. He's staying on till potentially October time this year after that it will be down to whoever takes over whether support for Ukraine will continue. I personally don't think that there are that many in the Tory Party who would continue to support Ukraine as enthusiastically and as genuinely as Boris has done. I would rather have wished he stayed on. Possibly might be another General Election in the offing here as well as whoever takes over won't have been given the mandate at a Election to lead the country.
If Ukraine can turn the tide of battle by September/October time then that would probably be best for them in case financial & military support starts to falter. It would be a bad thing for the world if Russia were to end up winning because of that I think.
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Well Boris has resigned as PM, looks like a load of selfish backstabbers had it in for him. He's staying on till potentially October time this year after that it will be down to whoever takes over whether support for Ukraine will continue. I personally don't think that there are that many in the Tory Party who would continue to support Ukraine as enthusiastically and as genuinely as Boris has done. I would rather have wished he stayed on. Possibly might be another General Election in the offing here as well as whoever takes over won't have been given the mandate at a Election to lead the country.
If Ukraine can turn the tide of battle by September/October time then that would probably be best for them in case financial & military support starts to falter. It would be a bad thing for the world if Russia were to end up winning because of that I think.
I totally agree with all this post.
As one of the female Tory MP's said after his resignation speech "Our country will rue this day ".
Putler and the Kremlin have been crowing about his resignation all day today.
The Kremlin have been saying it's the start of the fall of Europe.
Whilst Putler went on Russian state tv to challenge the west to now fight his army on the battlefield instead of trying to use Ukrainians to fight our battle.
I bet the orcs can't believe their good luck.,,,their public enemy number one having to resign over something so relatively unimportant in comparison to an impending World War three with Latvia now reinstating compulsory military service for their men in response to Russian aggression.
It was Boris who galvanised Europe and NATO into defying Putler..the respect he was given by everyone at the NATO and G7 conferences was plain to see,
The Ukrainian people are totally gutted by this backstabbing of our PM by self-serving chancers in his party.
We shall now see how we and the west now fare against the orcs with our new UK "leader".
What a time to be alive :(
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This is about the effect of Ukraine’s targeting of ammunition depots-
http://kyivindependent.com/national/1234
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Another orc ammo depot hit at 1:00 this morning.
This one was at Shaktersk,Donbas...about 50km behind the orc lines.
Continuous detonations for 5 hours afterwards...with parts of the area having to be evacuated.
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Imagine, dear gentle readers, that Pootin was RIGHT about the West…
so after Boris Johnson is out, Londongrad’s gonna get some major “influx” fer sure!!
Russians will figure out ways to influence the next Republican attempts to make major political gains
because based on recent congressional voting, the far right congress (those with MAJOR ties to Trump)
all voted AGAINST such aid!!!
so this aid could all go away
with just a few “elections”
where the price of oil and gas, is gonna be one the right’s major issues
here in the USA we’ll also stoke bible thumpers and gun nuts into attacking “the left” as well
the LEFT, i.e. people who basically just want freedom that the right takes for granted, cuz they’re WHITE CHRISTIANS
vrs the attempts by white christian right wingers at repression of that freedom
combined into a voting block of ANGRY, WHITE CHRISTIANS
protesting FreeDumb
after drinking up all the Covid Kool-Aid, now you're all THIRSTY AGAIN?
day-yam!
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Two more orc ammo depots destroyed last night.
One in Khartsyzsk in Donbas and the other in Kadivka,Luhansk.
This morning another orc ammo depot was destroyed in Chernobaevka,Kherson.
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After the arrival of the Ukrainian Artillery men in the UK to learn how to operate the new western artillery and missile systems they'll be supplied with,the first cohort of Ukrainian volunteer troops have now arrived at four different locations here.
Up to 10k troops will be trained over the next five months in weapons handling,battlefield first aid,fieldcraft,patrol tactics and the law of armed conflict.
AK variant assault rifles are being supplied for their training,as that's what they'll be fighting the orcs with.
The UK is also gifting each soldier with Helmets,body armour,eye protection,ear protection,pelvic protection,individual first-aid kits,field uniforms and boots,cold and wet weather clothing,Bergens,day sacks,webbing,ponchos,sleeping bags and entrenching tools.
Sky News was talking to some of them,and when one of the British trainers was interviewed he said "We'd rather be in Ukraine with them as we consider them our brothers in arms ".
New PM take note.
Defence Secretary Ben Wallace has announced he will not run for being the new PM as he wants to focus on his current job....here's a man who knows what's the priority for our country...and the World.
Pity our leftie media and the Tory party didn't think about that before forcing Boris out.
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Local sources inform that there were two Ukrainian rocket attacks this morning on an orc military base ,used by Rosgvardia,in Kherson on Pestylia street.
The first hit was at 5am,followed by another at 10am.
The orcs are screaming from under the rubble according to locals.
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An interesting article-
http://english.nv.ua/opinion/can-ukraine-win-ukraine-news-russia-war-against-ukraine-opinion-50255458.html
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Interesting video about how the Ukrainians have been hitting the ammunition
depot's
http://youtu.be/EMEpxX7rS5I
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2tall,
Precision weapons have beneficial side effects.
We now see high-value targets being destroyed like ammunition storage areas. Next in line (if not already) will be command and control structures along with communications.
For RU soldiers on the ground, this is discouraging, but they are still able to roam the occupied areas pretty much freely. This will change, however, as more and more high-accuracy weapons enter UA, allowing smaller units to be targeted within the occupied areas. They will start to feel like sitting ducks. The psychological effect will be devastating as more troop-level units get picked off relatively quickly and with minimal risk to UA forces.
It is pretty interesting to see how all this is evolving. Even allowing RU to occupy some territory can be to UA's advantage. RU artillery is only effective for short distances. If pushed back beyond their targeting range by HIMARS and other very accurate weapons, they rapidly lose their value.
Intel, accuracy, and logistics - as these capabilities build on the UA side, offensive action is more feasible and effective, enough to contain RU and take back control over some areas, even up to 50 km from the RU border before winter hits.
At the same time, more anti-aircraft/drone/missile defenses are being added to the mix, further reducing the possibility of RU advances.
If the west can keep up the pace supplying UA, I suspect things may stabilize into a stalemate at near 2014 status quo towards the end of the year.
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For RU soldiers on the ground, this is discouraging, but they are still able to roam the occupied areas pretty much freely.
When they try to stage fuel and ammunition in forward occupied areas
they are doing so in sight of people who don't love them or want them
to succeed.
Is it a huge surprise that the Ukraine artillery team tends to know
where the fuel and ammunition are stored? I would think that Team
Russia would prefer keep those locations undisclosed.
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99% of Russia’s territorial gains came from the first week of the war
in 4.5 months Russia has as many KIAs as the US had during three years of korea
Russian economy and standard of living will shrink by 8% per yr, for every year the war and sanctions go on
who are the winners
WE ARE!!!
let Russia bleed its military and economy and reap a Ukrainian wasteland as its reward
Ukraine already has over a 750 billion dollar repair bill
who’s gonna pay?
Meanwhile, we got hundreds of billions of Russian money
that we can hand out to the corporations who lost their Russian assets from sanctions
Exxon/Mobile will get at LEAST a BILLION
this connection to Russia was WHY the President of Exxon/Mobile
became Trump’s first sec of state
Rex Tillerson, in the first place, the “biggest deal” in WORLD HISTORY
and it evaporated!!!
bottom line, totally in our interests to do EXACTLY just as we’re doing
feeding the opposite side, just ENOUGH to maintain the stalemate
and let EACH SIDE bleed the OTHER as much as possible
without ANY military loss risk for our side
side benefit, thriving arms industry
THIS is the optimal strategy FOR US to pursue....
it sure sucks to be A Ukrainian or Russian though
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Is it a huge surprise that the Ukraine artillery team tends to know
where the fuel and ammunition are stored? I would think that Team
Russia would prefer keep those locations undisclosed.
In Girkins' words:
The enemy continues to "nightmare" the rear depots and command posts of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of the LDNR. Yesterday, another warehouse was destroyed in Shakhtyorsk (it is still burning and detonating, judging by the reports).In most cases - the successes of an enemy of this kind are based on the OUTSTANDING sloppiness of the COMMAND - who did not consider it necessary to disguise or elementary security measures. Warehouses were created without any regard for the enemy's space and air reconnaissance, crowded, without the construction of protective structures (and / or the use of numerous existing ones) - i.e. "How convenient, tyap-blunder."Of course, to justify our military, we can say that they "did not expect the NVO to go into war." But the fact that in the fifth month of the war in the units and subunits of the RF Armed Forces, even elementary camouflage nets are almost completely absent (whereas they are in many units of the LDNR Armed Forces supplied by volunteers) - only it deserves to be brought to the military tribunal of the entire leadership of the Logistics Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
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Another orc ammo depot hit in the early hours of this morning ..this one at Nova Kakhovka,Kherson oblast.
Massive secondary explosions and after-shocks have ensued.
A previous strike on Kherson,at Pestylia street,i posted about on here two days ago, resulted in more than 150 orcs being killed,including another General. >:D
A large white container lorry,with 200 painted on it's side,was photographed taking the bodies away. :)
In response ,with panic-stricken desperation to improve their troops morale, the orcs claim to have blown up a large Ukrainian ammo depot with three cruise missiles in Radushne that held 155 mm artillery shells and HIMARS rockets.
A video of the aftermath of the strike shows no large clouds of black smoke and there are no secondary explosions at all...which knowing the orcs probably means they hit a school or shopping mall instead..their normal tactic.
Reminds me of when the orcs put out a video claiming that they'd destroyed two parked HIMARS,when in actuality the missile missed it's target,if indeed they were HIMARS, and hit a tree instead ;D
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Apparently this is from the Russian separatists Telegram .
"There was an explosion in Kherson.They used HIMARS.There's nothing that can be done about it ? And there's only 8 HIMARS and they've already fucked us up.What'll happen next ? "
Apparently there is absolute mayhem and shock among Russian military bloggers and propagandists.
Speaking of which rwd123 has gone a bit quiet. ;D
No wonder Putler has called his Kremlin Duma back from their just started holidays for an emergency meeting on 15th July.
With their economy hurtling into the abyss and their military facing defeat,If they have any sense they'll capitulate .
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Another orc ammo depo hit today..now cooking off nicely with multiple detonations.
This one was at the DZTO Plant ,petrovsky district,Donetsk.
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Apparently this is from the Russian separatists Telegram .
"There was an explosion in Kherson.They used HIMARS.There's nothing that can be done about it ? And there's only 8 HIMARS and they've already fucked us up.What'll happen next ? "
Apparently there is absolute mayhem and shock among Russian military bloggers and propagandists.
Speaking of which rwd123 has gone a bit quiet. ;D
No wonder Putler has called his Kremlin Duma back from their just started holidays for an emergency meeting on 15th July.
With their economy hurtling into the abyss and their military facing defeat,If they have any sense they'll capitulate .
Apparently Russia may be trying to counter by buying drones from Iran:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/iran-russia-drones-ukraine-war-white-house-b1011690.html
Looks like it may just be a stop gap tactic to try and find a way to fill the gap as its own artillery and armaments get destroyed. Theoretically Russia has a lot of men to call upon so more than Ukraine. Just a case of whether they are willing to turn up and how hard Russia will push to try to get them to the front. So at the moment its a bit unknown how much Russia has left in the tank. However with HIMARS and the rest now hitting them hard I reckon it's going to get really hard for Russia to advance much more. That's real good news of course so just a question if Russia will start getting exhausted of willing men and armaments soon and fold in.
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Another HIMAR strike tonight,on Luhansk an impressive 85+km behind the front line.
Multiple detonations kicking-off in the blaze,so presumably yet another orc ammo depot.
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Another HIMAR strike tonight,on Luhansk an impressive 85+km behind the front line.
Multiple detonations kicking-off in the blaze,so presumably yet another orc ammo depot.
That's great news CB, looks like the HIMARS are already having a big impact on Russia's ability to fight in Ukraine as this article demonstrates:
http://gagadget.com/en/war/146432-himars-in-action-russians-have-dramatically-reduced-the-number-of-shelling-due-to-the-loss-of-ammunition-depots/
So makes sense to hit all their ammunition depots as without ammunition their artillery etc are useless, far quicker and easier than taking out all their artillery pieces one by one so a good strategy. If this momentum is kept up then they'll likely be a big turn around with the Orcs falling back in the coming days & weeks I reckon.
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Looks like it may just be a stop gap tactic to try and find a way to fill the gap as its own artillery and armaments get destroyed. Theoretically Russia has a lot of men to call upon so more than Ukraine. Just a case of whether they are willing to turn up and how hard Russia will push to try to get them to the front. So at the moment its a bit unknown how much Russia has left in the tank. However with HIMARS and the rest now hitting them hard I reckon it's going to get really hard for Russia to advance much more. That's real good news of course so just a question if Russia will start getting exhausted of willing men and armaments soon and fold in.
They have 6 HIMARS to cover an area of several hundred miles. They need
at least a hundred more, preferably 300 more of them. They are getting the
short range rockets because the West is afraid to give them the long legged
stuff.
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They have 6 HIMARS to cover an area of several hundred miles. They need
at least a hundred more, preferably 300 more of them. They are getting the
short range rockets because the West is afraid to give them the long legged
stuff.
Probably a little bit of software 'reprogramming' and those same rockets will travel 300 miles.
Then, when Russia screams, it can be said that "Russia bombed Russian areas themselves." I think we have heard similar stories before.
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They have 6 HIMARS to cover an area of several hundred miles.
Thought was 8 so far. Soon to be 12, and training is ongoing for more.
A few M270's as well
http://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-united-kingdom-and-norway-agreed-to-transfer-the-m270-mlrs-to-ukraine/
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The Ukrainian Special Unit "Kraken " ARE something special.
They use Artillery and special ops to go behind enemy lines.
I've seen a few videos of them in action....and the orcs are terrified of them.
There's some drone footage on the latest one taken three days ago in Bilohorivka,Luhansk region where the orcs see them and just literally run away.
Some orcs are captured and i'm surprised are kept alive,but i guess they're needed for POW exchanges.
This video can be seen on BlueSauron@Blue_Sauron,which is on Twitter.
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bottom line, totally in our interests to do EXACTLY just as we’re doing
feeding the opposite side, just ENOUGH to maintain the stalemate
and let EACH SIDE bleed the OTHER as much as possible
without ANY military loss risk for our side
side benefit, thriving arms industry
THIS is the optimal strategy FOR US to pursue....
it sure sucks to be A Ukrainian or Russian though
This I totally agree with in terms of what's happening and thought it would be the case from day 1. It's a nasty thing to do but it's not my doing and so far as stopping Russia is concerned, likely necessary. I do tend to see though that the west is playing a tactical game, drawing it out like you say by just giving Ukraine enough weapons to counter, Russia gets weakened incredibly for many years if not decades to come, Ukraine, an unfortunate pawn in this game.
End result for Russia is a smashed economy that's too weak to produce any armaments or sustain an army of any note. Most of its Soviet armaments destroyed and the rest too rusting & unreliable getting hopelessly obsolete and down trodden.
Ukraine meanwhile will be a very dirt poor nation, back to 90s post break up USSR times if not worse. EU looks like it may already be backtracking on aid package and I wouldn't expect anything from the EU they will wash their hands of any idea of Ukraine joining them when they see the state of the country at the end of all of this.
Like you say Krim the ones gaining the most out of all of this are the arms manufacturers & dealers. It's where those in power will have a hand in. All of the free stuff we've been sending Ukraine will just be stuff that will have sat around or not seen any conflict anyway - it's stuff paying around in military camps that doesn't need replacing if economically not wished to do so.
Anyhow both Ukraine & Russia are locked in now for the duration however long that will be. Russia has an almost inexhaustible amount of cannon fodder to throw at Ukraine and is looking to counter the HIMARS by using drones. The HIMARS already have done a lot of their job taking out ammunition dumps that will suck on Russia's resources and ability to advance further. Both are fighting over a piece of land that neither will give up so they'll be locked in at it until one side eventually has no choice but to concede, that could take quite some time.
In the meantime it's the unfortunate innocent folk that suffer and it truly is them I feel sorry for particularly Ukrainian civilians and those called into the armies to lose their lives as nothing but pawns in the game. Russia for sure has made a particularly bone headed decision to invade Ukraine and it's one they are going to come to regret I reckon even if they did end up taking Ukraine like you say they would just be taking an economically burdensome economic wasteland.
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They have 6 HIMARS………….
Wrong, Ukraine has 8 HIMARS, and by end of month 4 more as BC mentioned.
Anyway, what is more important is type of rocket supplied. US is sending the
M 30-31 rockets. Since these rockets can be fired from HIMARS or M270 systems
there are much more systems than thought of. If a/the ATacMC rocket is sent then the bridge is history.
I found it interesting that Russia is finding it hard to recognize the HIMAR rocket coming since it’s speed is close to a grad missile.
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LAman,
Probably not opportune to supply ATACMS.
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/mgm-140-family.jpg
Aside from being long-range, cluster munitions are out, and BAT is good for large supply lines, etc. With both sides using much of the same equipment, may be tough to discriminate. Would have been great for those long columns in the early part of the war, but I doubt such will be forthcoming with RU having learned what happens when they do such.
I'd prefer more air/anti-missile defense, and I believe such is in the works already.
btw I'm not an expert on this stuff, and just applying some logical thinking.
I am quite confident type and amount of equipment being sent are addressing the need.
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Ukrainian Intelligence says the orcs have used 70% of their stock of high precision missiles..
No high precision missiles means no Nukes.
So either the orcs stop firing them into Ukrainian shopping malls ,schools and apartment blocks or they'll have run out in two months and Ukraine and NATO can just march into Moscow,drag Putler and his Duma out of the Kremlin and throw them all into the Red Square followed by giving them a good kicking...making sure the whole World see's what happens to despots.
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Chelseaboy,
They have already fired a ton of 'em, that's for sure.
30% still represents a significant amount.
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Russia needs to be stopped here and now.
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Chelseaboy,
They have already fired a ton of 'em, that's for sure.
30% still represents a significant amount.
Well IF Ukrainian intelligence is correct the orcs have used up 14% of them per month so, like i said ,if they continue using them up at the same rate they'll have none left in two months time.
I'm sure the Ukrainians will find good use of the orc filtration camps for Putler and his Duma >:D
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I think there is a lot of over optimism here.
I suspect the Russians have ability to produce a lot of new missiles, tanks and all sorts of military equipment.
Sure I understand the bit about chips being embargoed, but I think they have a lot of those in inventory also.
Remember that in WWII the Russians (Soviets) moved entire plants over to the Urals and beyond to continue production.
I am sure they know how to solve current production problems also.
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This is a nice article on Donbas residents.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/18/they-have-come-to-destroy-us-ukrainians-on-the-frontline-in-donbas
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I think there is a lot of over optimism here.
I suspect the Russians have ability to produce a lot of new missiles, tanks and all sorts of military equipment.
Sure I understand the bit about chips being embargoed, but I think they have a lot of those in inventory also.
Remember that in WWII the Russians (Soviets) moved entire plants over to the Urals and beyond to continue production.
I am sure they know how to solve current production problems also.
Bloomberg.
Putin says sanctions cause "Colossol " problems in Russian tech industry.Russian Dictator Vladimir Putin told officials during a video conference on strategic development goals that Russia is facing "colossal problems " in the high-tech sector due to sanctions.
Missiles come under high-tech.Sounds like you're more confident about the orcs solving their rapidly declining precision missile stock than he is.
There's a reason why the orcs are now having to use S-300 SAM's for surface to surface attacks.
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Putin is pretty much betting that the U.S. midterm elections will undermine Biden and that by 2024, the United States will be in a great big mess!
and after that, support for Ukraine collapses, in the same way it was edited out of the 2016 Republican Platform. Look at ONLY Republicans who VOTED AGAINST Ukraine lend-lease
the giant European energy companies mostly in Germany and France
are putting political pressure on their countries politicians to keep them in favor of pro-Russian fossil fuels
just follow the money
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Bloomberg.
Putin says sanctions cause "Colossol " problems in Russian tech industry.Russian Dictator Vladimir Putin told officials during a video conference on strategic development goals that Russia is facing "colossal problems " in the high-tech sector due to sanctions.
Missiles come under high-tech.Sounds like you're more confident about the orcs solving their rapidly declining precision missile stock than he is.
There's a reason why the orcs are now having to use S-300 SAM's for surface to surface attacks.
Chelseaboy,
I'm with ML that RU can maintain the production of weapons that kill. At what level of production, I don't know, but best to not underestimate. Accuracy doesn't seem to be of much interest to them. Chips are easily smuggled as well http://www.reuters.com/world/how-military-technology-reaches-russia-breach-us-export-controls-2022-04-29/ Even if they can't get the chips, there are ways to adapt using chips from some common household electronic items like computers, gaming units or even modern hifi, all readily available on e-bay and such.
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BC,
For sure the orcs can use chips from common household products.
They've been doing that with their military aircraft...that's why an orc cargo plane and two SU-25 orc fighter jets all fell out of the sky in Russia within the space of a week around a month ago...one of the SU-25's hitting power cables on the way down.
Since those mishaps the orc airforce has been noticeable by it's relative absence in Ukraine.
Around 25% of the Iskander missiles being fired from Belgorad are landing in....Belgorad.
I wonder why ?
I'm sure the orcs will be happy to fire an Iskander missile with a nuclear warhead attached.knowing it has a chip from a gaming unit added
Who knows where it mind end up ?
What a future game masterpiece that would be " Fire an orc nuclear missile from Belgorad and watch it hit Moscow..just like the orcs did ".
I'm sure it would be a best-seller ..except in Russia >:D
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Putin is pretty much betting that the U.S. midterm elections will undermine Biden and that by 2024, the United States will be in a great big mess!
and after that, support for Ukraine collapses, in the same way it was edited out of the 2016 Republican Platform. Look at ONLY Republicans who VOTED AGAINST Ukraine lend-lease
the giant European energy companies mostly in Germany and France
are putting political pressure on their countries politicians to keep them in favor of pro-Russian fossil fuels
just follow the money
Krim,
I'm sure he's betting on things going in his favour before 2024.
He's going to use energy ,and in particular Gas ,as a weapon this coming winter.
Will the European public hold-up in their support for Ukraine if they're freezing and Ukraine won't make concessions to Russia about the land the orcs have stolen ?
You can just see angry German and French mums phoning into TV and Radio phone-in's "My poor kids have to go to bed at 4pm it's so cold, all because those Ukrainians won't let Russia keep the Donbas.Why should my kids suffer because of those pesky Ukrainians " ?
Those same dopey mums won't think about what will happen in the future to their "poor kids" if Russia keeps the Donbas.
I reckon Ukraine is aware of this and this has accelerated their attempt to get Kherson back before winter sets in.
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The orcs shot down one of their own SU-34's whilst trying to hit a HIMARS missile in the Alchevsk city area in occupied eastern Ukraine.
Yes they really are that incompetent.
It's only there superior numbers that have kept them in the fight so far.
The pilot was captured by Ukrainians,just to rub salt into the wound.
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Holy shit... and there goes Europe! Hope you have stocked up on warm blankets Pat!
http://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-declares-force-majeure-will-halt-gas-flows-germany-indefinitely
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Don’t crow so quickly.
http://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/7824752/europe-inks-energy-deals-sidesteps-russia/?cs=5461
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Don’t crow so quickly.
http://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/7824752/europe-inks-energy-deals-sidesteps-russia/?cs=5461
Who is crowing? This is MAJOR news. Russia has effectively declared war on Germany. The gloves are off. This is a MASSIVE escalation of the conflict.
There's apparently a major announcement coming out of Russia in a few days too. In other words - further escalation is on the cards. We are effectively in WW3 and things just got a lot hotter (and colder).
http://youtu.be/4mmrasoAjLc
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RWD123
It is only a matter of time until Europe re-orients sources and bolsters other forms of energy, which is actually a good thing. Putin has only accelerated de-coupling RU from the world economy, relegated to selling RU energy at a considerable discount. China is not stupid, and neither is India and other countries.
In the history books, this will be a small blip in the grand scheme of things.
Sure, Putin is on a destructive path, trying to do anything that adversely affects countries not aligned with them. Like a man with a noose around his neck, he will wiggle the wildest towards the end, knowing that he tied his own Hangman's knot.
Time is not on his side.
It is not about how much economic pain the EU can afford but more about how long RU citizens and allies will agree to be pushed back into the dark ages.
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Holy shit... and there goes Europe! Hope you have stocked up on warm blankets Pat!
http://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-declares-force-majeure-will-halt-gas-flows-germany-indefinitely
Germany/Europe doesn't need warm blankets. They need tissues for all the green/left wing crybabies.
The only reason that Germany turned to Russia for gas supplies is because after Fukushima, Germany mothballed all its nuclear power plants. (with the eventual goal of dismantling them, but closing a reactor will take decades.) If Germany wants energy, within 3-6 months, they can have their nuclear plants back online.
However, using nuclear energy doesn't fit the narrative with all the green left wingers. If push comes to shove, I think we will see Germany bring their nuclear plants back online.
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Holy shit... and there goes Europe! Hope you have stocked up on warm blankets Pat!
http://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-declares-force-majeure-will-halt-gas-flows-germany-indefinitely (http://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gazprom-declares-force-majeure-will-halt-gas-flows-germany-indefinitely)
Energies prices' are multiplying, and the next winter will be worse. That's the concern with inflation in all the EU zone.
Of course, since February every country tries to find out new partners.
Personally, I have two ways to heat my house gas and electricity but I probably will make some modifications to minimize my consumption next month, before October.
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Putin says sanctions cause "Colossol " problems in Russian tech industry. Russian Dictator Vladimir Putin told officials during a video conference on strategic development goals that Russia is facing "colossal problems " in the high-tech sector due to sanctions.
Sounds like you're [ML]more confident about the orcs solving their rapidly declining precision missile stock than he is.
I don't know for sure, of course, but good chance that Putler is trying to get the west to let down its own effort . . . by thinking Russia is on the ropes.
Rope-a-dope process.
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Germany/Europe doesn't need warm blankets. They need tissues for all the green/left wing crybabies.
The only reason that Germany turned to Russia for gas supplies is because after Fukushima, Germany mothballed all its nuclear power plants. (with the eventual goal of dismantling them, but closing a reactor will take decades.) If Germany wants energy, within 3-6 months, they can have their nuclear plants back online.
However, using nuclear energy doesn't fit the narrative with all the green left wingers. If push comes to shove, I think we will see Germany bring their nuclear plants back online.
Bee Farmer,
Your political views are clouding your vision.
Germany decided to wind down their nuclear plants after Chernobyl, and not Fukushima. They have a few coal plants that were mothballed and may be pulled back into service.
Their renewable energy generation is among the highest in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Germany#/media/File:Energiemix_Deutschland.svg
Yes, industry and a good portion of households use gas for heating, but already programs are underway to reduce that usage. No one will freeze in their homes, but yes turning down thermostats will be mandated.
The damage will remain mainly economic, but even that beats WWIII. They are buckling up.
http://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/germanys-summer-package-to-focus-on-heating-sector-revamp/
Germany is better prepared than the US would be in the same circumstances. Like RU, the US is simply lucky to be sitting on a lot of fossil fuels.
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Ukrainians becoming very bullish now...they must read my posts on here. :)
Their Deputy Minister of Defence Gavrilov said that Russia must give up Crimea if it wants to continue existing as a state.
In the meantime HIMARS have hit the bridge connecting Kherson to Crimea.
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In the meantime HIMARS have hit the bridge connecting Kherson to Crimea.
Probably target practice and warning for all those that cross.
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Who is crowing? This is MAJOR news. Russia has effectively declared war on Germany. The gloves are off. This is a MASSIVE escalation of the conflict.
There's apparently a major announcement coming out of Russia in a few days too. In other words - further escalation is on the cards. We are effectively in WW3 and things just got a lot hotter (and colder).
Talk about hyperbole.
Germany was already moving to cutting all Russian gas by this winter. So I wouldn't exactly call this a "massive" escalation.
We are not in WW3. Russia can make a lot of trouble, thanks to its natural resources, but really, it's a bit player on the world stage, with a leader (and populace) with a massive inferiority complex.
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An orc SU-35 shot down by Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile today ,whilst attempting to attack Ukrainian ground attack aircraft this afternoon in the Nova Kakhovka area of Kherson province.
Da Da Da Another one bites the dust ;D
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Germany was already moving to cutting all Russian gas by this winter. So I wouldn't exactly call this a "massive" escalation.
IIRC was for drawing down oil from RU, with replacing RU gas taking a bit longer. I may be wrong, though. In any case, it's a short-term issue for the EU but will remain a long-term problem for RU. Prices will remain high for a couple of years until supplies balance out again and more renewables take over.
As for the remainder of your post, spot on.
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Some have posted that China and India will be able to buy raw materials including oil and gas from Russia at a discount.
Why a discount?
In my view, China and India has the need to buy virtually all the oil and gas available in the world.
All Russia needs to do, is stop the flow to China and India for awhile, and the price to them would move up to market price.
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Energies prices' are multiplying, and the next winter will be worse. That's the concern with inflation in all the EU zone.
Bingo! This is not about cold houses, it's about the collapse of Europe -
the asynchronous economic warfare in response to sanctions.
The EU relies on German industry. It's about to be hammered into oblivion. Will not be surprised if the German government falls in the next six months.
The Euro Zone is essentially bankrupt. It takes a form of cheque kiting between governments to keep it afloat. How is Deutsche Bank going to hold up with waves of insolvencies?
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Bee Farmer,
Your political views are clouding your vision.
Germany decided to wind down their nuclear plants after Chernobyl, and not Fukushima. They have a few coal plants that were mothballed and may be pulled back into service.
Nonsense BS.
They did not make any meaningful steps to closing down the power plants until after Fukushima. (They closed a reactor in 2003, and one in 2005. That's immaterial.)
Following Fukushima, Germany has permanently shut down eight of its 17 reactors and pledged to close the rest by the end of 2022.[2] In late 2021 all but three of the remaining German nuclear power plants were shut down.
As of 2022, Italy is the only country that has permanently closed all of its formerly functioning nuclear plants, with Germany phasing out the remaining 3 plants by the end of the year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_phase-out
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Bingo! This is not about cold houses, it's about the collapse of Europe -
the asynchronous economic warfare in response to sanctions.
http://youtu.be/h51qGjHbmr0
Apparently energy prices are going to rise in (parts of) Poland by 300%! That is going to destroy manufacturing and household budgets. Europe is in BIG trouble. Good luck funding a foreign war when the peasants are revolting. Governments will need to fund a civil war first.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Germany#/media/File:Energiemix_Deutschland.svg
IIRC was for drawing down oil from RU, with replacing RU gas taking a bit longer. I may be wrong, though. In any case, it's a short-term issue for the EU but will remain a long-term problem for RU. Prices will remain high for a couple of years until supplies balance out again and more renewables take over.
Pure Hogwash
Wiki is for electricity, not energy,,,,, majority of gas is used / burned directly, not converted to electricity. The new green "Energiewende" has been a complete disaster for Germany. Making them more dependent on gas than ever before. Building / installing new windmills has almost completely halted / stopped in the last two years. For a reason, it doesn't work as expected. Renewable energy in Germany last year amounts to between 15-18 % of total energy consumption, depending on how it is calculated. The new gas pipeline NorthStream2 that was set to open when Russia invaded, was supposed to more than double the amount of gas to Europe for the next 10-20 years.
This disaster is seriously hurting us here in Norway also. As we are connected to the madness, by newly built transfer cables, and idiotic contracts, that makes our electricity price dependent on European prices.(stupid political decisions that didn't foresee possible consequences) In previous years, electricity here was very cheap, as we have an abundance of clean hydro electricity. Even letting enormous amount of water bypass the turbines every year.
This is an auto translate from yesterdays financial news:
Scenario # 1: A full reboot
In this scenario, Gazprom will resume the flow of natural gas over the next few days at almost full capacity. This in turn could lead to a rally in US and European equities and help strengthen the euro.
Scenario No. 2: Partial reboot
The flow of natural gas is resumed, but with reduced volumes. It depends on how much the gas is reduced by. If it is reduced to 40 percent of capacity, it is not good, but it is even worse with only 20 percent. This will mean that the markets will be tense while waiting for when and if the flow of gas returns in full.
Scenario No. 3: No reboot, but positive signs
In this scenario, the flow of gas to Europe will not resume this week, but there are still signs that it will happen in the not too distant future. This will cause equities and the euro to fall, while credit and bank equities will falter.
Scenario # 4: No reboot and no sign
There will be no gas to Europe from Russia through Nord Stream this week, nor will there be any indication of when anything will happen. This is the worst case scenario. Then stocks will fall globally, the euro will fall and credit will be deferred. Bank shares are particularly vulnerable in this case.
Predicts recession and stock plunge
Should there be a worst-case scenario, where gas remains switched off, Deutsche Bank expects that the rationing of gas will lead to a German GDP fall of between 5 and 6 percent in 2023. BNP Paribas believes a complete halt in gas supplies from Russia will lead until Euro Stoxx 50 falls 20 percent or more, with several quarters of European recession.
While the Swiss major bank UBS predicts that if Russia closes all pipelines to Europe, and not just Nord Stream, it could send the euro to 0.90 against the dollar, the Stoxx 600 index will fall another 20 percent and corporate revenues will fall by 15 percent.
The last bank CNBC spoke to was JPMorgan Chase. The Americans believe that if the Russians close the gas supplies to Europe, the movements in European corporate bonds will be greater than during the first wave of the pandemic in 2020.
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About 13% of Germany’s electricity is generated with natural gas. But the majority of natural gas is used for heating.
Where I live, electricity was coal generated, and cheap. The socialist provincial government expedited the banning of coal (which was happening over a longer period federally). End result was payouts to companies equalling 1/7 of our annual budget. Our electricity is now 100% generated by natural gas.
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Nonsense BS.
They did not make any meaningful steps to closing down the power plants until after Fukushima. (They closed a reactor in 2003, and one in 2005. That's immaterial.)
It's not immaterial. Meaningful steps predated Fukushima.
http://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/history-behind-germanys-nuclear-phase-out
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Pure Hogwash
Wiki is for electricity, not energy,,,,, majority of gas is used / burned directly, not converted to electricity. The new green "Energiewende" has been a complete disaster for Germany. Making them more dependent on gas than ever before. Building / installing new windmills has almost completely halted / stopped in the last two years. For a reason, it doesn't work as expected. Renewable energy in Germany last year amounts to between 15-18 % of total energy consumption, depending on how it is calculated. The new gas pipeline NorthStream2 that was set to open when Russia invaded, was supposed to more than double the amount of gas to Europe for the next 10-20 years.
Obviously you focused on only one aspect of my post. Maybe re-read to get the full gist of what I posted.
Yes, new installations of windmills has been reduced the past years, but has not stopped.
Across Germany, 311 new wind turbines were approved in the first half of the year. This is a slight step backwards compared to the first half of 2021 (321). Compared to "strong" wind power years, the regression is even considerable. Up to three times as many permits were issued in 2014 (895) or 2015 (699) as this year.
http://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/swr/windkraftausbau-103.html
Do take the time to read the full article.
The drop over the last years can also be explained by low energy prices and fewer government incentives, along with other ongoing crisis like COVID and shipping/supply disruptions, and increased costs. This is likely to change quickly and .gov is likely to step in.
For a reason, it doesn't work as expected.
Now, this is hogwash. They work exactly as expected.
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It's not immaterial. Meaningful steps predated Fukushima.
http://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/history-behind-germanys-nuclear-phase-out
All talk and no action.
Talk is cheap. What did they actually do? They closed 2 plants, in '03 and '05. That's called immaterial.
Russia said they were not going to invade Ukraine either.
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All talk and no action.
Talk is cheap. What did they actually do?
The article describes in detail what they actually did. Turning the last switch was only the last part of a process that started well before Fukushima.
The rest is only your opinion, seemingly looking for someone to blame.
As for my opinion, take it or leave it:
The fuel price for automobiles went up approximately 50 cents since 2019 in much of the EU, around 25-30%. Yeah, folks here don't like it but take it in stride with little protest. More folks are carpooling and using mass transit, but still not as affected as the US, where prices have risen 80% in the same timeframe with few interested in carpooling or mass transit and more interested in complaining and playing a blame game.
I lived in Germany in the '70s and remember the oil crisis back then (when most folks heated with heating oil). Thermometers were turned down, and on Sundays, cars, boats, and planes remained parked. On weekdays only odd or even plated cars were driven. IIRC some good came out of it. Cars got even more fuel efficient, and most trucks no longer drive on Sunday. IMO the EU will go through a tough period, somewhat similar, but we'll survive and come out better in the end.
I was also in Germany in the mid-'80s to late '90s, pre, and post-Chornobyl, and when the Iron Curtain fell, all tumultuous times. They'll adapt and get through this crisis as well while US owners of gas-guzzling cars, pickups, and SUVs cry at the pump instead of finding better ways of getting around and investing in mass transit that appeals and is not viewed simply as 'that's what poor people do.'
In many ways, I feel folks in the EU are more resilient to crisis due to the same things you object to based on inane political and ideological fantasies that limit rather than expand freedom.
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Latest Russian explanation for why they can't beat the Ukrainians.
It's because the Americans are injecting Ukrainian soldiers with secret serum that gives them special powers and turns them into monsters.
Really.
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Would love to check out the source of that Chelseaboy! Have a link?
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Here you go.
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-lawmakers-tout-baseless-claims-ukrainian-super-soldiers-2022-7?amp
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I think those super soldiers are all named Himars.
US will send 4 more Himars to Ukraine this week to add to the 12 already sent.
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The U.S. will be sending Ukraine four additional High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) in another security assistance package to be announced later this week, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Wednesday, 20 July 2022.
The systems in the upcoming package would bring the number of launchers the U.S. has sent to 16. The U.S. has sent 12 thus far, most recently sending four in a $400 million assistance package announced on July 8.
In his remarks, Austin touted other countries that have stepped up their support for Ukraine, such as the United Kingdom sending its own MLRS systems and Poland agreeing to transfer three battalions of 155mm self-propelled howitzers.
The Pentagon chief also thanked Norway for working with the U.S. to transfer two National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems, also known as Norwegian Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems.
http://thehill.com/policy/3567107-four-more-high-mobility-artillery-rocket-systems-going-to-ukraine-pentagon-chief-says/
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The first HIMARS were sent to Ukraine only near end of June 2022, and they already have turned the tide of the war.
http://theprint.in/world/why-us-supplied-rocket-system-himars-has-become-key-to-ukraines-defence-against-russia/1044346/
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After 6 weeks of training in Germany, even little guys are making a big difference. (click the first link)
http://www.youtube.com/shorts/NjA8zKK7NzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYvDDX4uMTo
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I totally agree with this article. It was suggested [and ignored] before the invasion ever began.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is an inspiring figure. And it is hard not to admire the courageous spirit of the Ukrainian army in their unequal fight against the much more powerful Russian military. But the time has come to seek a negotiated conclusion to the war in Ukraine. And the U.S. must encourage President Zelensky to take seriously the opportunity he has to bring a halt to this bloody conflict.
Otherwise, this war will grind on without end, tens of thousands more innocent civilians will die, and there is a real risk that events spiral out of control with the United States and Russia going to war. Wise leaders in Washington must avert this impending disaster.
Perhaps flush with battlefield successes in March and April, Zelensky has expanded his war aims. No longer content with defending Kiev and Kharkov, he has announced his intention to reconquer Crimea and Donbas. This is a dangerous and provocative escalation of Ukrainian military and political objectives. In fact, it is madness.
Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, arguably a violation of international law. But we must recognize the facts on the ground. Ninety-three percent of Crimean residents voted in favor of annexation. The vast majority of the population is ethnically Russian, and historically Crimea was an integral part of Russia. The people of Crimea would resist a Ukrainian invasion. And Russia would certainly never allow such an invasion to proceed.
Likewise, the people of Donetsk and Lugansk are resolutely opposed to any forcible reunification with Ukraine. Any attempt to reconquer these territories is futile, a mere fantasy and a foolhardy delusion.
Time is not on Ukraine’s side. It is holding on tenaciously on the Eastern battlefield, but slowly losing more and more ground. NATO and the U.S. are supplying weaponry, but not men. Eventually, losses of personnel will leave the Ukrainian army in a dire predicament, tons of military material but not enough soldiers to deploy them. Prolonging the war will likely result in more Ukrainian losses.
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http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2022/07/20/averting-disaster-in-ukraine-n2610529
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There was another HIMARS strike on the bridge from Kherson to Crimea in the early hours of this morning.
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I totally agree with this article. It was suggested [and ignored] before the invasion ever began.MORE----
http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2022/07/20/averting-disaster-in-ukraine-n2610529
I don’t think one can accept the referendum in Crimea. That said, there probably should be another one, conducted and monitored by international observers, such as the UN.
Only the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk are ethnically Russian. The majority of Donbas is ethnically Ukrainian. So, I think the op-ed is misinformed.
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I totally agree with this article. It was suggested [and ignored] before the invasion ever began.MORE----
http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2022/07/20/averting-disaster-in-ukraine-n2610529 (http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2022/07/20/averting-disaster-in-ukraine-n2610529)
I haven't read the full article..just the piece shown.
I don't agree with it at all.
It's Ukrainian land and the orcs shouldn't be allowed to steal it...end of.
The people of Crimea and Donbas who prefer to live under orc rule can go and live in Russia...they won't have homes in Donbas soon anyway,with the way their "liberators " are shelling their villages, towns and cities.
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tf,
Likewise, the people of Donetsk and Lugansk are resolutely opposed to any forcible reunification with Ukraine. Any attempt to reconquer these territories is futile, a mere fantasy and a foolhardy delusion.
It may be more correct to state, "People in DPR occupied portions of Donetsk Oblast and LPR occupied portions of Luhansk Oblast..." but even that may be a bit iffy.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/residents-of-ukraines-breakaways-recount-short-lived-joy-hope
Many may now feel simply caught in the middle
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I don’t think one can accept the referendum in Crimea. That said, there probably should be another one, conducted and monitored by international observers, such as the UN.
Only the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk are ethnically Russian. The majority of Donbas is ethnically Ukrainian. So, I think the op-ed is misinformed.
All the residents who've been ejected from Crimea since the orcs stole it,should be allowed to move back before any such referendum,and the people who took their homes not allowed to vote...and no orcs carrying weapons allowed at the voting sites either.
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I totally agree with this article. It was suggested [and ignored] before the invasion ever began.MORE----
http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2022/07/20/averting-disaster-in-ukraine-n2610529
Yes, as Chamberlain said, Hitler only wants a small piece of Czechoslovakia because of the ethnic Germans there.
Let him have that, and we will have "Peace for our time."
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I totally agree with this article. It was suggested [and ignored] before the invasion ever began.MORE----
http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2022/07/20/averting-disaster-in-ukraine-n2610529 (http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2022/07/20/averting-disaster-in-ukraine-n2610529)
I also note the author of that op-ed lives in Moscow. That explains his myopic vision.
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I also note the author of that op-ed lives in Moscow. That explains his myopic vision.
Kill the messenger...but the facts remain. The alternative is more destruction and loss of life. There is no will in the west to engage the Russians. America does not have the leadership required to set up a front in Europe.
Yes, as Chamberlain said, Hitler only wants a small piece of Czechoslovakia because of the ethnic Germans there. Let him have that, and we will have "Peace for our time."
Unfortunately...we don't even have Chamberlain caliber people around [sadly]
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Do you really believe that millions of ethnic Ukrainians living in Donbas, after everything that has happened, would just willingly give up their lands, lands on which their ancestors have lived for centuries, and submit to the plutocratic autocracy known as Russia?
I have relatives living in Russia. For well over 3 years, they have made it clear that all political discussion is off limits. They are already afraid. No such issue with Ukrainians, who have no compunction about complaining about their government.
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The people of Crimea and Donbas who prefer to live under orc rule can go and live in Russia...they won't have homes in Donbas soon anyway,with the way their "liberators " are shelling their villages, towns and cities.
Do you really believe that millions of ethnic Ukrainians living in Donbas, after everything that has happened, would just willingly give up their lands, lands on which their ancestors have lived for centuries, and submit to the plutocratic autocracy known as Russia? I have relatives living in Russia. For well over 3 years, they have made it clear that all political discussion is off limits. They are already afraid. No such issue with Ukrainians, who have no compunction about complaining about their government.
This reminds me of Vietnam. Most in former South Vietnam didn't care about politics..they just wanted to be left alone. It is easy for someone who doesn't have to... to say just pick up and move out.
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Lavrov announced today that the geographical objectives of Moscow's "special military operation "in Ukraine are no longer limited to the eastern Donbas region ,but include a number of other territories .
He added that Russia's objectives will expand still further if the west delivers long-range weapons to Kyiv.
As reported by Russian state news agency RIA Novosti.
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This reminds me of Vietnam. Most in former South Vietnam didn't care about politics..they just wanted to be left alone. It is easy for someone who doesn't have to... to say just pick up and move out.
That’s exactly what your op-ed is suggesting.
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12 HIMARS in UA now and another 4 on the way.
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-rocket-systems-himars-weapons-losses-1726753
I suspect there will be a regular supply, something like 4-8 per month as crews get trained.
It's not a panacea, but making a difference not only in striking power but a huge psychological impact as well. I can imagine RU troops are getting quite stressed knowing they can be easily targeted by UA soldiers sipping tea and taking pot shots while driving around the countryside from a good distance behind the front lines.
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12 HIMARS in UA now and another 4 on the way.
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-rocket-systems-himars-weapons-losses-1726753 (http://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-rocket-systems-himars-weapons-losses-1726753)
I suspect there will be a regular supply, something like 4-8 per month as crews get trained.
It's not a panacea, but making a difference not only in striking power but a huge psychological impact as well. I can imagine RU troops are getting quite stressed knowing they can be easily targeted by UA soldiers sipping tea and taking pot shots while driving around the countryside from a good distance behind the front lines.
It's making a huge psychological impact among the Ukrainian top brass too.
As a young Ukrainian lady in Kyiv says.
"Listen to the Ukrainian Government rhetoric.It's gone from "help us,they are massacring us "to "We're going to take Crimea and hit the bridge "."
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http://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/20/austin-more-us-rocket-systems-ukraine-00046856
It seems more advanced items may be underway as well. Scroll down the article to read about it.
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It is easy for someone who doesn't have to... to say just pick up and move out.
That’s exactly what your op-ed is suggesting.
I fail to see the words evacuate..move..leave...get out...or vacate in that article. Perhaps something specific can be highlighted?
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http://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/20/austin-more-us-rocket-systems-ukraine-00046856 (http://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/20/austin-more-us-rocket-systems-ukraine-00046856)
It seems more advanced items may be underway as well. Scroll down the article to read about it.
The usually unreliable politico links are not working it seems.
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The usually unreliable politico links are not working it seems.
Works fine here, and also in the US via my vpn connection.
Guess you're using a Trump approved browser.
:ROFL:
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The Russian economy is imploding.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/22/russia-economy-sanctions-myths-ruble-business/
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Interesting article Boethius. It helped me understand a bit more and put things into better perspective. Thanks.
In the longer term, EU will not forget this wake-up call. Although the expense is high, it is temporary and we'll end up better off in the end, less reliant on RU.
All in all, a small price to pay to support UA and keep RU at bay.
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The Russian economy is imploding.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/22/russia-economy-sanctions-myths-ruble-business/
Great news !!
Let's hope they are at least 'mostly' correct.
Thanks much for sharing Boe.
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Regarding the discussion up-thread as to whether or not negotiations with RU would be effective.
http://www.npr.org/2022/07/23/1113165082/russia-strikes-ukraine-black-sea-odesa-grain-deal
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I fail to see the words evacuate..move..leave...get out...or vacate in that article. Perhaps something specific can be highlighted?
It's implicit. Give up Donbas. If you're a Ukrainian (which the majority of the residents of Donbas are), then just leave, because you won't be able to live as a Ukrainian there.
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If Russian military takes over Odessa, what are the chances they will invade other countries like Moldova?
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They can hardly hold what they have taken so far. Odesa has thousands of km of underground tunnels that have been prepared for an invasion. Russia would be fighting there for years.
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If Russian military takes over Odessa, what are the chances they will invade other countries like Moldova?
I have already answered your question.
If they take Odessa they will reunify the region (oblast) with the Eastern part of Moldovia, Transnistria. 100%
But they cannot take Odessa, they don't have the troops, nor the military stuff. Odessa is a big city with 2000 km of tunnels below.
In the worst case, they will need months before approaching Odessa.
If Russians cross the border or the western part of Moldova they will face fiercer opposition from the EC and the USA.
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Indeed, I agree with the above, at the moment Russia does not have Nikolaev within reach anymore so no real threat to Odessa. In fact Ukrainian forces are pushing towards Kherson using HIMARS to good effect. All across Ukraine, Russia is now running out of steam and with many Ammunition depots blow up by HIMARS they are now lacking the fire power to press forward with their invasion.
The only troops Russia has got to attack Moldova with is apparently in the break away region next to Moldova. This is a useful article I found online:
http://balkaninsight.com/2022/07/13/moldova-weighs-mobility-and-firepower-in-military-overhaul/
So they have about 10,000 Russian troops in the break away region, about 3 battalions l, tanks if I recall correctly. I don't know how much ammo they have there or how long they could keep up an offensive if they moved into Moldova. I always found it strange that they never used those troops to attack Odesa early on in the invasion or at least move in to close of the border areas. Moldovan army should be on alert now in case Russia made a sudden move using the forces in the break away region. Likely they would have used presence there to make an excuse for invading Moldova line they did Ukraine. I wouldn't totally put it past Putler not to use them to invade Moldova unless they are really low on Ammo there. At this stage Putler has little to lose with the war going badly in Ukraine that he might chance it and see if he can get by a quick swift invasion as he had hoped for in Ukraine. In my opinion he has little to lose as the break away region of Moldova is slim so not much to risk. It may well be that even with a heads up from the Ukrainian invasion Moldova's army may not prove to be very able.
As stated in the article they are looking to modernise their army over the coming decade. Apparently the EU is going to give them €40 to help with this despite them not being an EU member lol. Shows how the EU like to throw their wealthier members money around even on non-EU members despite the EU and many of its members starting to get into dire economic conditions.
So it remains up in the air, will Putler use the forces in the breakaway region to attack Odessa, Moldova or just keep them put? As has been said they can't get supplies in so once they've shot their bolt that's it if they do so. My opinion like above is that they are unlikely to take Odessa with those forces and will likely get bogged down there. So if they were to use them they might strike against Moldova and hope on a quick victory. As they've not used them to date though I would question if they have much ability to fight so there's good odds that they will just stay put also I reckon so I wouldn't fret just yet RWO.
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Regarding the discussion up-thread as to whether or not negotiations with RU would be effective.
http://www.npr.org/2022/07/23/1113165082/russia-strikes-ukraine-black-sea-odesa-grain-deal (http://www.npr.org/2022/07/23/1113165082/russia-strikes-ukraine-black-sea-odesa-grain-deal)
No surprise there..i'd have been shocked if Putler and his orcs had honoured the grain deal.
For all the appeasement/Chamberlain brigade...there can be no negotiations with a country/regime that broke the Budapest Memorandum.
Russia cannot be trusted in the slightest....capiche ?
The only way to stop Putler and his orcs is the complete destruction of their armed forces...which may possibly need the onset of World War 3 to achieve.
There is no middle ground here...Russia needs to be totally de-militarized and economically destroyed.
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Reading an article today which was exploring the state of the Russian economy. It reckoned the Russian economy is in a bad way, far worse than the Kremlin is making out. Sanctions are having an impact, oil, gas, etc and even Chinese trade with Russia has apparently fallen away as Chinese companies prefer to do trade with the US, a far bigger market and so shun Russia in fear of failing foul of US sanctions and being cut out of the more lucrative US market. Meanwhile the Ruble is not strong and only being propped up by the Kremlin's internal measured.
So overall the west is suffering but far less than Russia economically. So for us just a question of staying the course. That will be worthwhile in the long run as the longer Russia stays in the war the more knackered they will be economically and militarily. The greater odds also of the Russian Republics revolting and breaking away from the Russian Federation. Putler will end up with egg on his face in such a scenario as Russia will be a lot smaller and weaker than before the Ukrainian Invasion. They reckon it may take many years if ever for Russia to get back to where it was economically. If the west becomes less reliant on oil & gas in the coming years then that will hit Russia greatly too.
Really all a question of time, of how long Russia is prepared too and can hang in there. The longer they keep going the more their military runs down and so the less powerful they are. That's good news for the west & Ukraine as without any teeth Russia will be humbled on the world stage and so far it's been losing a lot of gear out there.
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No surprise there..i'd have been shocked if Putler and his orcs had honoured the grain deal.
For all the appeasement/Chamberlain brigade...there can be no negotiations with a country/regime that broke the Budapest Memorandum.
Russia cannot be trusted in the slightest....capiche ?
The only way to stop Putler and his orcs is the complete destruction of their armed forces...which may possibly need the onset of World War 3 to achieve.
There is no middle ground here...Russia needs to be totally de-militarized and economically destroyed.
He didn't like the meeting with the Turkish President.
And moreover, this agreement is totally stupid when you are in the Russian shoes, why they would respect it?
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Russia should not have signed an agreement they had no intention of honouring. It proves they cannot be trusted. They’re a rogue state.
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Never ceases to amaze me how just a few decades ago the Soviet/Russian Army that Ukraine is now facing was a powerful and potent force. A massive army full of huge numbers of tanks, artillery, aircraft, etc enough for western nations to be both in awe of and fearful of now all but a largely outdated mostly rusted wreaks only a fraction of its former powerful might. The finishing off, of the better part of Russia army in Ukraine signals the fag end of that Soviet might that once was but is no longer. In comparison, China's army now looks like it potentially poses a much bigger threat, not old rusty armaments from years gone by but a modern efficient army with up to date equipment and large in size. Russia's army looks poor and pales in comparison, to me it's looking like Russia's time as a powerful nation is fast coming to an end, brought about by Putler's ambition to grasp for more.
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Well, with expenditures less than 1/10th that of the US, less than 1/3 that of the EU, and a good bit squandered due to corruption, it's not that awful surprising even with low wages and unlimited energy at its disposal.
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Never ceases to amaze me how just a few decades ago the Soviet/Russian Army that Ukraine is now facing was a powerful and potent force. A massive army full of huge numbers of tanks, artillery, aircraft, etc enough for western nations to be both in awe of and fearful of now all but a largely outdated mostly rusted wreaks only a fraction of its former powerful might. The finishing off, of the better part of Russia army in Ukraine signals the fag end of that Soviet might that once was but is no longer. In comparison, China's army now looks like it potentially poses a much bigger threat, not old rusty armaments from years gone by but a modern efficient army with up to date equipment and large in size. Russia's army looks poor and pales in comparison, to me it's looking like Russia's time as a powerful nation is fast coming to an end, brought about by Putler's ambition to grasp for more.
Politicians sometimes exaggerate how scary an opponent is to get more money/
funding. Now China is the boogeyman. Lastly, we had to assume that the Soviets
kept their gear on decent condition and Generals had to prepare as if they were
top notch.
You can believe that they had plenty of corruption during Soviet times. Every
Generals mistress had a fur coat purchased with money looted from the
Soviet military. Every Generals dacha had a refrigerator with an icemaker.
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Apparently not, this article caught my eye today, looks like their artillery is now getting worn out lol:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/07/25/russias-artillery-is-wearing-out-and-blowing-up/?sh=4daa015f734c
Looks like soon all they will have left in the bag is either their big weapons of mass destruction missiles if they don't blow up in their face or bring up much of the menfolk and attack Ukraine en-masse with a massive infantry push winning by sheer weight of numbers in one go.
In WWII the Soviet Union had around 6 and a half million men, Nazi Germany around 2 and a half million men. So today's effort by Russia is puny. They have struggled with logistics with even a much smaller army. They may have more money to spend on the war than Ukraine but the west is helping Ukraine out so that evens the balance, if anything can tip it in Ukraine's favour. Its starting to look like Russia's days as it was may be numbered.
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A paper on the failing Russian economy.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4167193
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Super good find Bo-dacious!!
go the source link, it includes the following graphic:
look how the USA overtook Russia, as biggest gas supplier to Europe
JUST A MONTH AGO!!!
and look at the slope of those two curves,
and now think 5 yr out
which hurts more?
this?
or Amerikanski Racketa?
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A paper on the failing Russian economy.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4167193
That site wants me to enable its cookies, which I won't do.
Any chance you can post it otherwise ?
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That site wants me to enable its cookies, which I won't do.
Any chance you can post it otherwise ?
ML,
Try http://download1324.mediafire.com/56w4bx08bapg/koo1odcb6ke66z1/SSRN-id4167193.pdf
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ML,
Try http://download1324.mediafire.com/56w4bx08bapg/koo1odcb6ke66z1/SSRN-id4167193.pdf
BC, thanks for that.
But that site wants me to download something, which I don't want to do either.
And, they are going to install cookies!
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Yes, you want to download the .pdf file
On the original link Boethius gave you, you can also restrict the cookies by clicking on cookie settings at the bottom of the page and allowing only the functional cookie.
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p d f :D
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So what did you think of the assessment, Trench?
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So what did you think of the assessment, Trench?
Ah, yes it appears to be a more long winded version of the economic article I referred to a few days ago on here. Sorry I forgot to put the link I think, could have saved you all a lot of reading time ;) Anyway here it is:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/22/russia-economy-sanctions-myths-ruble-business/
So yes, I concur.
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Putler has gone a bit quiet lately..probably trying to work out his escape exit from Russia as his orc military faces defeat in Ukraine.
As per the UK MOD report today "Ukraine's counter offensive in Kherson is gathering momentum,and the orcs 49th Army is looking highly vulnerable,with the city of Kherson now virtually cut off from the other occupied territories ".
There is video out there of Ukrainian troops flooding across the Ingulets river,which forms the northern boundary of Kherson, and establishing a bridgehead south of it.
Meanwhile the bridges across the Dnipro river which the orcs were using to supply Kherson,have been smashed by Ukrainian Artillery and HIMARS.
The Ukrainian military has given the orcs occupying Kherson an ultimatum of either surrendering or face annihilation.
There are 16,000 orcs there...it'll be a huge loss for their military...one i doubt they can recover from physically and mentally.
If and when Kherson is liberated from the orcs i suspect Crimea will be the next stage of the operation to liberate Ukraine from orcs,because once that's taken the orcs in Donbas will be encircled with Ukrainian troops holding the Kharkiv region,so no escape for the orcs through there either.
Just pummel them with HIMARS and western Artillery and finish them all off from a safe distance whilst drinking flasks of tea and eating biscuits . :popcorn:
Hopefully Ukraine will be receiving the 300km HIMARS missiles soon so they can start hitting the orc missile launchers at Belgorod too.
With 80% of the orc military in Ukraine it'll be a good opportunity to wipe them out and deal a terminal blow to the Kremlin regime.
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Natasha Bertrand CNN reporter covering the White House and National security,after a briefing from Biden admin officials.
"We were briefed that over 75,000 Russians have either been killed or wounded in Ukraine ,which is huge.....over 80% of their land forces are bogged down,and they're tired ".
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Looks like the Ukrainian military is going straight for retaking Kherson instead of going the longer route of circumventing it from the north. Looks like the bridges they have so far done them enough damage to hinder easy resupply but avoided taking them out completely. That's probably the best strategy as with a bit of luck the orcs will lose their nerve and make a run for it thereby avoiding a lot of civilian suffering. It also means that potentially Ukraine can get some troops over to the other side of the bridge if they are quick and push back the Orcs so they can't hammer Kherson with artillery from the other side of the river bank. Clearly taking out the ammunition dumps earlier in the month was key to avoid Kherson being decimated in an Artillery barrage from the Orcs. So that is something we and particularly the residents of Kherson have to be thankful for as those HIMARS really have helped avoid Kherson facing a similar fate to cities like in Mariupol & the Donbass hopefully. Still not yet won as Ukraine needs to find a way of displacing the Orcs from Kherson without hitting a lot of their civilians. HIMARS will help with accurate firing but I'm doubtful if they can do enough to displace the many of the individual 16,000 troops on the ground. Can only hope that the Orcs morale cracks under fire quickly.
It looks like Ukraine can't afford to linger too long now as of course hitting the bridges will make it harder to get food supplies into Kherson to the civilians and so a long siege would make them suffer food shortages and that could get difficult.
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I very much doubt the orcs could hammer Kherson with their artillery from the other side of the Dnipro river,as the HIMARS and longer-range western Artillery will out-range them and wipe them out.
Long-range missiles are another story of course,so hopefully Ukraine will have some good SAM systems for Kherson to at least cut down the number that would get through.
If the proposed 300km HIMARS missiles are supplied to Ukraine they can hit the orc missile launchers in Crimea anyway.
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If and when Kherson is liberated from the orcs i suspect Crimea will be the next stage of the operation to liberate Ukraine from orcs,because once that's taken the orcs in Donbas will be encircled with Ukrainian troops holding the Kharkiv region, so no escape for the orcs through there either.
Why couldn't orcs just move straight east across into Russia?
No need to go up through Kharkiv.
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Looks like Ukraine is playing centre stage for an arm's bazaar:
http://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1747539/lithuania-to-buy-himars-launchers-confirms-ministry
Looks like this conflict will end up as a paying game for the western arms industry. Happens I guess but at least Ukraine get the positive of kicking Russia's butt rather than having their own butt kicked.
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Why couldn't orcs just move straight east across into Russia?
They would but they're worried about goblins and warlocks. They're all out of pixie dust and waiting for unicorns to deliver more. Santa Claus is busy.
CB is delusional and thus uses fantastical, ergo childish language. 80% of Russian land forces in Ukraine? They haven't even mobilized the army. They're also bringing the Russian winter to the rest of Europe.
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Odds are winter may bring a change in how this war is conducted once again. Artillery, tanks and other heavy weaponry can be almost impossible to move around if it becomes a muddy winter and only once the ground hardens likely in Jan/Feb next year does manoeuvring that gear get easy, if it hardens.
It's then we might see the Russians either resort to their weapons of mass destruction or mobilize their men for war en-masse. That all depends on if they have deep enough pockets for that, a population that doesn't kick back against it and enough AK47's or other guns to go around. If they do manage to get it together then it could turn a lot more into an infantry war I reckon. By the beginning of winter most of Russia's tanks that are operable will likely have been used up anyway and their artillery likely either out out of action or out of ammo so I think an infantry war could be highly likely with both sides bringing as many soldiers to the front as possible. That will mark a new phase in the war, Russians once again being the ones with snow on their boots.
By that time Ukraine could well have recovered some lost ground, quite possibly retaking Kherson but I'm not so sure about all that much more elsewhere. Putler can't afford to give up as he knows it will be the end for him. So odds are it will be down to either side seeing what they can bring to bear in an infantry war to bring success if possible. For Ukraine they can probably dig in particularly in the cities and have backup from their heavy weapons while Russians may well likely attack with large infantry numbers likely dwarfing that off Ukraine. Then just a matter of who cracks first if anyone.
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Why couldn't orcs just move straight east across into Russia?
No need to go up through Kharkiv.
Yep they could and no doubt the increasing numbers of HIMARS will be placed at strategic points to inflict maximum damage to the fleeing orc horde,as the orcs will have no other options.It'll be the carnage of the retreat from Kyiv all over again. >:D
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You need ammunition to do that. Oh wait...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/were-almost-out-of-ammunition-and-relying-on-western-arms-says-ukraine (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/were-almost-out-of-ammunition-and-relying-on-western-arms-says-ukraine)
Maybe you're just salty that some fellow Brits are about to cop death by firing squad.
(FWIW I oppose capital punishment)
This channel has fairly balanced analysis.
Talking about delusional how's this post about Ukraine running out of ammo working out for you ?
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As predicted...
Russia commenced "Phase 2" with the primary objective of complete control of the east and a secondary objective of taking the Black Sea coast. Unsurprising the news in Transnistria. NATO are getting involved surrepticiously in Transnistria, just like with the attack on the Moskva - which was closer to Romania (de jure NATO) than Ukraine (de facto NATO) when hit. Russia may need to recognize Transnistria as they did with LNR and DNR and perform a "special operation" or step up their "peacekeeping" else NATO may move in.
Also as predicted Russia wants to cut off supply lines from the west so have hit key rail infrastructure. Also as predicted Ukrainian forces suffering massive human casualties (and POWs). Their attacks on Russian soil serve little strategic benefit so will have minimal impact in the course of the war.
I should have bought stock in Raytheon, Boeing and the other war profiteers... I should have kept a watch on Pelosi's investments...
In other news -
- One dead British mercenary confirmed, another missing
- Many other foreign mercenaries are perishing or captured
- Get your popcorn ready for when the Azovstal plant is "cleared", Putin ain't negotiating on that one! LOL @ Zelensky who wants Azov and NATO guys free to go to Turkey.
- Gazprom racking up record profits while Europe's economy is in a tailspin.
- European countries one by one accepting gas for rubles.
- Indonesia bans exports of palm oil... which Europe was using to cover the short fall of oil from Ukraine. The Europeans are ideological idiots!
- No surprise in France with Macron, nothing will really change there. Riots if not civil war is coming to France. That's not me talking but their former head of intelligence!
- Chinese lockdowns are a major concern. It's moronic and destructive but the CCP don't like losing face! Global implications but largely overlooked.
- The world is moving closer to nuclear conflict. This is far more serious than the Cuban missile crisis.
Sadly things are likely to escalate rather than de-escalate.
Trench - Russia is hitting ALL of Ukraine. There's no way you'll visit in the Summer unless Ukraine surrenders... not gonna happen on Biden's watch... or his son's laptop! Unless you're creating TikTok videos with Zelensky then Ukraine is a no go zone.
Here's another delusional strategic master-class from you..now we see the orcs have been unable to advance to take the Black Sea coast and are in fact now struggling to hold on to Kherson. ;D
Your posts do wear well don't they ? LOL.
i suggest you leave your Unicorn fantasies to the orc propaganda forums you frequent and leave the adults to discuss the realities of what's happening in the real world on here.
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I'll take a man with no legs over a man with no brains. The "laptop from hell" resurfaced because regime change is coming to the USA.
Apparently the last oil refinery in Ukraine was destroyed last night. Hard to run a military on no gas. Hey Pat - does France still have a cavalry? Ukraine may need one!
Unconfirmed reports of child soldiers recruited in Ukraine (images/video available but not verifiable). Pitting kids against Spetsnaz? If true the Zelensky regime is truly despicable.
Here's another rwd123 classic that has worn well.
What was that about the Ukraine military having no gas ?
You do like clutching at straws don't you ? ;D
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The Russians have pinned down a large portion of the Ukrainian army in the south, and any moving from the north will face death from above. Supply lines will get hit and without them they're as good as dead. Southern Ukraine is no longer Ukraine! Plenty of Russian flags going up on buildings... if you're reading MSM then you're probably getting a distorted view. A mix of Telegram channels will give a better picture.
Some analysts have stated the Russian troop movements in the north were a bluff so that they could more effectively perform their operations in the south. Once the south falls it's as good as game over.
Boe - I'm not saying the Italian reporter is accurate, I have said it was inconclusive (but it's funny how it drops out of the news once it is reported). I've been pretty consistent in saying the first victim of war is the truth. Without an open mind one will fall back into personal biases.
"Southern Ukraine is no longer Ukraine "
Yes folks that's what the site idiot posted on April 11.
The more you post rwd123 the more clueless you make yourself look. :cluebat:
I rest my case.
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A video has been released last night from orc troops in Severodonetsk showing them torturing a wounded Ukrainian soldier POW and then castrating him with a box knife.
It was filmed during daytime.
I had the opportunity to watch it but couldn't..
Many Russians did watch it though,and clearly took pleasure in it,because equally sickening were the many messages of happiness and support for this hideous deed from fellow Russians on the internet.
These are the people that pro-Russian trolls such as rwd123 support/worship...which says much about them.
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Ukraine now has MLRS M270's in the field to work alongside the HIMARS.
The firepower is increasing constantly to inflict more carnage on the raping,castrating,executing,looting orc's.
Night is dark and full of terrors.
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Ukraine now has MLRS M270's in the field to work alongside the HIMARS.
MLRS means Multiple Launch Rocket System.
Accordingly, the concept of MLRS covers both the M270 and the M142 HIMARS systems.
HIMARS (pronounced "Hymars") is an abbreviation for High Mobility Artillery Rocket System - a highly mobile artillery rocket fire system.
There are two key differences between the M142 HIMARS and the M270 units.
HIMARS has higher mobility being mounted on wheeled trucks whereas the M270 is mounted on tank tracks.
In turn, the HIMARS has half the immediate capacity with 1 package of six 277mm caliber missiles or 1 tactical medium-range ATACMS 610 mm caliber missile.
The M270 has immediate capacity of 2 packages of the 277 missiles (so 12 in total) or 2 of the 610 missiles.
The HIMARS has the huge advantage of 'shoot and run' which makes it very hard for the enemy to destroy a HIMARS.
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Four more HIMARS from the USA and three MARS 11 MLRS from Germany have now arrived in Ukraine.
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I'd say that puts around 30 or more highly accurate medium-range rocket systems in UA plus a good bit of artillery as well.
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Ukrainian tycoon killed in recent shelling of Nikolaev:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62367356.amp
Was an extremely wealthy guy especially by Ukrainian standards. Nice jacket slightly like the one I have on the way, will no doubt impress if he was wearing something similar quality ;D
Maybe girls out there would see me as a wealthy tycoon :D
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An article on Russian voices.
http://cepa.org/russias-military-grows-afraid-of-the-long-war/
This is the Facebook page of a Ukrainian soldier.
http://tinyurl.com/tujhdh8f
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Ukraine using US HIMARS & Howitzers to good effect around Kherson yesterday:
http://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-himars-strike-russian-bases-counter-attack-kherson-artillery-1730303
More arms dumps and some military bases hit. Apparently the Russian Army is now in bad shape and looking like it should be vulnerable to a counter offensive by Ukraine.
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Some new tanks for Russia for Ukraine to destroy:
http://tinyurl.com/4snrpbj9
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Economists say sanctions are not creating a famine.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/putins-claim-that-sanctions-are-creating-conditions-for-a-global-famine-is-a-myth-say-yale-academics-11660331559?siteid=yhoof2
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if true, that's good to know, but losing Ukraine's output will still impact the world, and will certainly impact Ukraine
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Two more ammo dumps destroyed around Kherson today and the bridges largely taken out meaning big difficulty supplying Russian troops in Kherson. Even still it's looking like Ukraine may struggle at mounting a counteroffensive to retake Kherson or any of the Donbas. Like Russia many of their well trained forces are lost then there is having the armaments to dislodge the Russians. Ukraine tends to lack the large number of artillery then there is the question that they would likely end up firing at their own civilians.
It's looking like it's becoming a war of attrition for both sides and one that could rumble on for some time with the battle lines largely stagnated along current positions. Economies of both countries are apparently becoming in bad shape, unemployment in Russia just over 9 percent and will likely increase, its economy apparently already set back by four years. Ukraine is apparently having trouble paying it's soldiers with money promised by the EU not coming through as quickly as hoped. Inflation, interest rates and currency issues becoming problems in both nations. Tourism of course largely out in Ukraine so much money lost there and any one with any sense avoiding Russia also.
So really a case of seeing who cracks first. Ukraine is pretty reliant on the west now for economic and military support. Russia is exhausting itself and a long time at this could break up under the strain of being run down by it all. My guess is probably not this year but next year matters will be getting in a pretty dire way in Russia as time and effort at this campaign takes it toll.
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One would hope that with the orcs having to scour prisons for their new recruits,and with Ukraine's new recruits being fully trained by the UK and others,that this would tip things in Ukraine's favour.
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One would hope that with the orcs having to scour prisons for their new recruits,and with Ukraine's new recruits being fully trained by the UK and others,that this would tip things in Ukraine's favour.
Looks like it could be over for the Wagner Group and their activities recruiting from prisons:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62547403
Might have even gotten their head guy, 'the chef'.
That strike will no doubt reduce the Wagner Group's ability to spearhead assaults. So it's getting to the point where Russia is losing the ability to invade any further. As you state CB the UK training up Ukraine's military will help them with counter-offensive abilities, just a question of when and how much Ukraine is able to bring to bear. The underlying problem for cities such as Kherson that are still inhabited is his to do it without causing mass casualties. Possibly there is a way it's just Ukraine having to see what works to achieve that I think.
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Kherson to my mind isnt a challenge for ukraine/AFU.
The kherson oblast is,the city itself? No.
They are doing the normal things,cut supply lines.
If they take the northside of the dneper, i would simply
by-pass the city, they can control anything coming in by river/ sea, and simply leave what russian army remains in the city to the partisan efforts there.
Any armoured units that wpuld remain could be controlled 8f you alreasy have has the strenght push them to the city in the first place. And they wouldnt have fuel long.
So i think the oblast is what they will concentrate on and of course keeping the supply lines cut.
Zero need to try to retake kherson itaelf, time would be on tier side in this one instance
Buit this completely depends on the huge *if* they can take that northern section of oblast back.
They lost 6 fighter /astack planes last week.alone.
(Granted it proves russuas folly of claiming they had taken put AFU airforce months ago)
But thats a significant loss for ukraine when lend lease has yet to come into play.
Russia losing 9 at saki base,is embarrasing but not as impactful,as the strike itselfs location
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Once Ukraine gets more of the Ghost drones and R1 drones Russia will be in trouble. Majority of these drone companies are in Southern California. Switchblade is old technology but still better than what Russia has.
Kherson only fell to Russia because the Russians had moles inside Kherson before this started. People of Khersen who stayed behind see how horrible it is under Russian control. Same goes with Crimea.
Going to get very bloody for the Russians and Putin cannot admit defeat and its army is essentially worn out and defeated. Sanction take 9 months to be effective and Russia is already several months behind on paying its soldiers.
Putin cannot launch nuclear missile at Ukraine as the wind will blow it into Belarus or even Russia depending on where it lands. Last thing Russia needs is a revolution in Belarus.
I never would have thought Ukraine would get Crimea back but it looks like it will happen in next 12 months.
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A good article by a Russian journalist. It’s unfortunate FT and GQ are not here, as it addresses their knee jerk anti Americanism.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2022/08/12/russia-ukraine-war-crimes-genocide-appeasement-mearsheimer-putin/
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FT ran off to the other place to be among pro-Russian/anti western friends ( although of course the vast majority of him and his new pals still infest western countries,including the rabid pro-orc forum owner, rather than actually live in dumpski ).
The word hypocrites springs to mind.
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FT? Didn't notice that forum user in here, do you mean Faux Pas?
Anyhow looking through the news articles today it seems that the opinion is around that we may now be in deadlock on the war in Ukraine. Ukraine is able to hit Russia's ability to resupply and so have halted it's ability to advance mostly. Ukraine though seems to struggle with ability to counter-attack with the orcs is such big numbers in the positions they hold. Kherson in particular they haven't moved upon and I'm not sure they're able to without risking large losses of troops which I believe they aren't willing to take.
So odds are this war will likely be running on for some time with the battlefront largely remaining where it is. Even if Ukraine got a large number of howitzers from the US my guess is that they wouldn't want to pummel their own citizens with them in order to retake Ukrainian cities. Unless Ukraine can find some way of displacing the enemy its likely that the present status quo will remain. For Ukraine the good news is that Russia has been stopped in its advance and early defeat of Ukraine with it. The bad news is that Ukraine may have to endure this stagnated war for quite some time now. So it could likely come down to a war of attrition, I don't think so much in terms of armaments but more likely the economy. I think it will really come down to whose economy will crack first, Ukraine or Russia's. Of recent Ukraine was struggling to pay it's troops only just about managing it. With Russia their economy is also in a bad way with unemployment rising to around 9 percent or more, inflation & interest rates up, etc. So whether regions will start to break away as a result or the people take action who knows.
The only other area is the state of morale in the armies, for Ukraine it's not so bad, even if problems with pay odds are they will hold on, they have little choice in the matter. With Russia it's unknown, their morale is not good but just defending their morale may hold. But I think there might be a good chance that they will get to a point where they have had enough, the soldiers in the ground give up and they all start to desert en-masse. That scenario happened for Russia during WWI so I think it's plausible it could happen again, when that happens who knows. Winter will soon be coming so that means thousands of soldiers suffering cold conditions on both sides so their might be a chance that it could occur then, or it could take years, we'll just have to see I guess.
I think one thing looks more likely though is that whichever side wins it's more likely to be down to other aspects than winning on the battlefield, namely the economy, cracked morale or disintegration of the state.
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A good article by a Russian journalist. It’s unfortunate FT and GQ are not here, as it addresses their knee jerk anti Americanism.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2022/08/12/russia-ukraine-war-crimes-genocide-appeasement-mearsheimer-putin/
That article cannot be read without a subscription.
Any link without a required subscription ?
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http://archive.ph/WwH6l
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FT? Didn't notice that forum user in here, do you mean Faux Pas?
FT is fathertime....a shopkeeper in the USA who has made plenty of posts on this thread with a propensity to big-up Russia and how mighty it is whilst running down the USA/West.
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FT is fathertime....a shopkeeper in the USA who has made plenty of posts on this thread with a propensity to big-up Russia and how mighty it is whilst running down the USA/West.
Ah, of course, thanks CB a long time poster here and there or like you say was. I recall FT wasn't too keen on getting the vaccine despite coming into contact with some customers who seemed to have the virus.
Well the way I see it, it was Putler who attacked Ukraine in an unprovoked attack. If Ukraine was getting closer to the west in alignment it was through their own choice as an independent country. Russia essentially did not contest Ukraine becoming a free independent country at the end of the USSR so they've really got no right to move in now.
My guess is that if Ukraine can hold on and so far they have then it may be more likely that Russia will end up expending too much on it all and either it's troops will desert en-masse and/or a second break up of Russian territory will occur so thereby ending the conflict. I think the west will back Ukraine all the way as they know the price of Ukraine falling is too great and a return to dealing with a great Russian Empire threat again. If Russia fails on the other hand then it could be the end of any Russian threat for good or at least a very long time, that's got to be good news for us in the west si just a case of us keeping up the good fight.
It's a shame others don't see it that way, the west might not always act without notice but Putler is just after grabbing what he thinks he can get and damn all the suffering involved, he's just a bad guy that's leading Russia down the wrong path and needs to be gone.
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http://archive.ph/WwH6l
Thanks for that.
What he wrote is very similar to what was in another article referenced here some days ago.
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Prominent assassination carried out, IRA car bomb style:
http://news.sky.com/story/daughter-of-russian-ultra-nationalist-killed-in-suspected-car-bomb-attack-12678269
A pretty girl but a Putler sympathiser. Looks like the bomb was intended for her father but her choosing to drive his car unusual random chance meant that she suffered the horrible fate instead. I wonder how the Father feels now about his views and influence on the invasion of Ukraine now that misery from that conflict has come home to roost.
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Alexander Dugin, Russian Mastermind behind Russia's annexation of Crimea, AKA "Putin's brains", daughter, Dariya Dugin, was killed when her car exploded. Most likely from an assassination attempt that meant to target Dugin himself.
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Alexander Dugin, Russian Mastermind behind Russia's annexation of Crimea, AKA "Putin's brains", daughter, Dariya Dugin, was killed when her car exploded. Most likely from an assassination attempt that meant to target Dugin himself.
Yeah apparently into philosophy. Guess they got taught the philosophy that if 'you cause shit to happen to others they'll cause you shit in return'.
Reckon this is the way forward, target Putlers family and all of his henchmen, car bomb and assassinate them see how they like some of the misery they are inflicting on the Ukrainian people back on them.
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Alexander Dugin, Russian Mastermind behind Russia's annexation of Crimea, AKA "Putin's brains", daughter, Dariya Dugin, was killed when her car exploded. Most likely from an assassination attempt that meant to target Dugin himself.
собаці собача смерть
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Alexander Dugin, Russian Mastermind behind Russia's annexation of Crimea, AKA "Putin's brains", daughter, Dariya Dugin, was killed when her car exploded. Most likely from an assassination attempt that meant to target Dugin himself.
The car didn't explode... a bomb did.
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From recent news out in the UK I wonder if the groundwork is being laid paving the way for British troops to be sent out to Ukraine:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-soldiers-told-ready-war-27791322.amp
I personally think this would be a mistake as it's not directly our fight so we should keep out of it. Possibly with the fighting looking like it's becoming deadlocked and military aid possibly looking like economic aid may be needed moreso in future and for a long time the west might be deciding it may struggle to prop up Ukraine economically for that long as Ukraine's economy may not be far off bust now.
Russia still hasn't actually declared war on Ukraine so apparently it's still a special military operation. So we wouldn't necessarily be entering a war - in name at least. I still don't think it would be a good idea but we along with the US always seem to end up going into these things.
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Republican national army.
Partisan russian movement is taking responcibility for Dugins daughters death.
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Republican national army.
Partisan russian movement is taking responcibility for Dugins daughters death.
You are being corrupted by a person who writes in Cyrillic. :-)
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Looks like last remnants of the only bridge left connecting Kherson was taken out today:
http://news.yahoo.com/local-residents-claim-antonivskyi-bridge-152100353.html
So just the occasional slow ferry crossing left. Looks like things could very unfortunately get distressingly difficult for the residents of Kherson soon. Already there were some reports of a situation of near starvation in the city. Unless supplies can be brought in by ferry/boat well enough then I'm not sure what will happen.
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The Finnish PM was shaking her booty on the dance floor and
the professionally and perpetually offended got offended. What
a HUGE surprise
Video
http://youtu.be/2Jv-9Fz3cVs
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/17/i-dont-see-justice-in-this-war-russian-soldier-exposes-rot-at-core-of-ukraine-invasion
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It's Ukrainian Independence Day and Boris is back in Ukraine in Kyiv on his third outing to once again spearhead the campaign against the Russian Invasion!
http://www.cnn.com/2022/08/24/europe/boris-johnson-ukraine-visit-intl-gbr/index.html
No doubt a boost for Ukrainian people to have its strongest European ally there with them on such a day :)
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It's Ukrainian Independence Day and Boris is back in Ukraine in Kyiv on his third outing to once again spearhead the campaign against the Russian Invasion!
http://www.cnn.com/2022/08/24/europe/boris-johnson-ukraine-visit-intl-gbr/index.html
No doubt a boost for Ukrainian people to have its strongest European ally there with them on such a day :)
Anybody would think you were blowing your own trumpet Trenchie.
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Anybody would think you were blowing your own trumpet Trenchie.
Trumpet may be exaggerated. Little whistle came to mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51x532yW1lY
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Anybody would think you were blowing your own trumpet Trenchie.
Can't think how you would think that Gaunty :D
Apparently Boris was having a plaque dedicated to him in Kyiv as one of those that most helped Ukraine. Not that I'm saying that would help UK guys after women in Ukraine of course ;D
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Ben Wallace " The Russian Army has lost more than 80,000 servicemen in Ukraine ,killed,wounded and deserters.That's 80,000 in six months compared to the 15,000 they lost in ten years in Afghanistan ".
In response the master strategist Putler has formed a 3rd Army Corps to start a renewed offensive in the Donbas.
Made up of volunteer Battalions it is full of out of shape old men...i've seen the photo's of them.
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Multiple hits on Kherson between 3:30 and 4:30 this morning.
One of the targets was a military unit where the orcs were based.
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The Armed Forces of Ukraine have breached the orcs first line of defence near Kherson,with a combination of aviation and artillery strikes.
Operation south confirms " The Armed Forces of Ukraine launched offensive operations in many directions in the south of Ukraine ".
There are reports of orcs retreating in certain areas.
Update : Video just seen from a Russian soldier under fire "Ukrainians are firing heavily from all kinds of weapons.Ukrainian soldiers occupied the first line of defence.The 109th Regiment of the DPR retreated from it's positions in the Kherson region .Russian Paratroopers fled the battlefield ".
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Orc occupied Melitopol now under attack from the Armed Forces of Ukraine with five HIMARS strikes this afternoon...with Orc bases and ammo depots destroyed.
Reports from Ukrainian troops at the Kherson front that the Orcs are withdrawing from their positions under overwhelming pressure from the Ukrainian Army.
The master strategist Putler had better get the old boys from his newly formed 3rd Army in there quick to save the day for the routed orcs.
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The orc appointed head of Kherson ...Stremousov....fled to Voronezh,Russia yesterday.
The rats are running.
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Ukraine is reportedly using wooden decoys of advanced US rocket systems to trick Russia into wasting its missiles on them.
According to The Washington Post, the decoy versions of US-supplied rocket launcher systems drew at least 10 Russian Kalibr cruise missiles, leading Ukraine to further boost its production of replicas, in an effort to lure Moscow into firing its expensive long-range missiles on fake targets.
“They’ve claimed to have hit more Himars than we have even sent,” one US diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told the Washington Post.
Experts say that western-supplied rocket systems have been crucial in Ukraine’s successes in halting Russian forces, and the latest report appears to further highlight some of the ways Ukraine has sought to safeguard its western-supplied weapons.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/30/ukraine-using-wooden-decoys-to-lure-russia-into-wasting-its-missiles-report
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Orc occupied Melitopol now under attack from the Armed Forces of Ukraine with five HIMARS strikes this afternoon...with Orc bases and ammo depots destroyed.
Reports from Ukrainian troops at the Kherson front that the Orcs are withdrawing from their positions under overwhelming pressure from the Ukrainian Army.
The master strategist Putler had better get the old boys from his newly formed 3rd Army in there quick to save the day for the routed orcs.
I tend to agree with this report that there is unlikely to be rapid progress against the Russians. That it's more likely going to be putting a squeeze on the Russians over a fairly lengthy period of time and they'll eventually crack one way or another:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62730439
I doubt that Ukrainian troops will be at or entering Kherson or Melitopol before winter starts to set in in about a month's time or so. Looking at the map they still have a way to go before reaching the outskirts of these cities so for the moment a lot of the counteract directly in these cities appear to be more long range attacks with the Ukrainian forces slowly pushing in from a fair way outside the cities.
Looks like it's a sound enough way forward as should hopefully keep the Ukrainian forces casualties down and from making mistakes like the Russians did in the early days of the invasion.
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Another Iskander missile has been launched by the orcs in Belgorod tonight and blew up in ......Belgorod.
This is becoming a pretty regular occurrence, so much so that if the orcs used Nukes there's a very good chance they'd Nuke themselves.
Wouldn't that be a shame ? >:D
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62750584
Ravil Maganov: Russian Lukoil chief dies in 'fall from hospital window'
Shortly after Russia invaded Ukraine, the Lukoil board called for the conflict to end as soon as possible, expressing its sympathy to victims of "this tragedy".
Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:
The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62750584
Just noticed the same, looks like people are still having a problem negotiating their way past windows in Russia.
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Video and photo's now being released showing that Vysokopillya,Kherson oblast,has now been liberated from the orcs.
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50,150 Russian orcs have now been KIA in Ukraine..according to the Ukraine Defence Ministry.
According to the New York Times the orcs are in such dire straits they're having to buy missiles and ammunition from North Korea.
It ain't looking too good for the master strategist Putler and his Kremlin cronies.
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From reports i'm hearing today it sounds like the entire orc front in Ukraine has started to totally collapse....from Kharkiv down to Kherson and many places in-between.
Ukraine now has Excalibur missiles for their artillery with a range of 70km and accuracy of 4M. >:D
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I posted weeks ago that i believed the orcs could be wiped-out in Ukraine by effectively surrounding them and finishing them off....and i was told no waaay they can be surrounded as they'll get back into Russia no problem.
Well the Armed Forces of Ukraine now have fire control over the Dnipro and Inhulet's rivers in Kherson region .The orcs cannot effectively supply or reinforce their troops ,nor can they retreat with equipment.
That's 24.000 orcs now cut off...unless they're very good swimmers...and the Dnipro is full of orc corpses now which suggests many have tried and failed.
In other parts of occupied Ukraine orcs are now being encircled.
As i was saying.
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The Ukrainians showing the orcs how to do an offensive properly.
Oleksii Gromov,Deputy Head of operative management at Army's General Staff.
"20 Settlements in Kharkiv region have been liberated ".
"Ukrainian Army has advanced 50 km into the enemy's positions "
Videos and photo's everywhere of dead and captured orcs,whilst the pro Russia propagandists are in tears as they see their scumbag heroes being routed.
More strikes on Belgorod last night also,leaving half the city without electricity.
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"20 Settlements in Kharkiv region have been liberated ".
"Ukrainian Army has advanced 50 km into the enemy's positions "
Videos and photo's everywhere of dead and captured orcs, whilst the pro Russia propagandists are in tears as they see their scumbag heroes being routed.
More strikes on Belgorod last night also, leaving half the city without electricity.
Happy to hear, if true, but fairly minor compared to what Russia has already done to capturing and destroying Ukraine villages/towns and controlling Ukrainian land and killing Ukrainians.
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The Ukrainians showing the orcs how to do an offensive properly.
Oleksii Gromov,Deputy Head of operative management at Army's General Staff.
"20 Settlements in Kharkiv region have been liberated ".
"Ukrainian Army has advanced 50 km into the enemy's positions "
Videos and photo's everywhere of dead and captured orcs,whilst the pro Russia propagandists are in tears as they see their scumbag heroes being routed.
More strikes on Belgorod last night also,leaving half the city without electricity.
Looks like taking the towns and villages and bypassing the cities will likely be the best way forward for Ukraine. Once they are taken, the cities surrounded and the enemy demoralised then they'll probably fold one by one so saving a lot of destruction and loss of life. I think this is good news and a case of Ukraine keeping up the pressure like this and racking up lots of small wins that eventually will hopefully end in overall victory.
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Happy to hear, if true, but fairly minor compared to what Russia has already done to capturing and destroying Ukraine villages/towns and controlling Ukrainian land and killing Ukrainians.
Yes,what the Russians have done in Ukraine is beyond comprehension...pure evil.
If i was a Ukrainian soldier i wouldn't be taking any Russian pow's,i'd shoot them dead on the spot after what they've been doing in Ukraine.
Luckily some of the Ukrainian soldiers have more self-control than me...so they have pow's for prisoner exchanges.
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Can Ukrainian forces surround Zaporizhzhia and starve out the Russian soldiers ??
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Ukrainian troops are now in control of Balakliya,Kharkiv region .
I must be getting soft...my eyes started to well up when i saw residents hugging and kissing their liberators .
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Can Ukrainian forces surround Zaporizhzhia and starve out the Russian soldiers ??
The city of Zaporizhzhia is under Ukrainian control and never taken by the orcs.
Parts of the region ,including the Nuclear power plant,are under orc control and surrounding the plant and starving them would seem to be the best course of action,although difficult whilst they still have ammo for their artillery there.
Their supply lines need to be stopped.
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I meant to say surround the nuk plant near Zap.
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A unit of the orc Paratrooper -Storm forces attempted to flee back to Russia from the encirclement in Balakliya city but the convoy was annihilated near Shevchenkove settlement in Kharkiv province....and filmed.
As i suggested would happen the Ukrainians are looking to massacre the orcs in Ukraine for what they've done.
There is orc military equipment being abandoned throughout the occupied areas as the orcs are on the run, with some of the soldiers being captured trying to hide in civilian clothing.
Izyum is next on the agenda for encirclement...with thousands of orcs currently trapped there. >:D
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CB, thanks for the continued updates,its appreciated.
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Yvw Jumper,
I've now had visual confirmation that Kupyansk,Kharkiv region has been fully liberated from the orcs,with the Ukrainian flag hoisted above the town centre ;D .
This is huge news as Kupyansk is on top of the orc supply routes ,which means Ukraine now has fire control over the routes.
There is even bigger news, apparently confirmed, but am awaiting visual confirmation.
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Huge queues of traffic fleeing the Kharkiv region to Belgorod.
Pro-orc sympathisers and collaborators leaving for Russia will make a big improvement to Ukrainian society .
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Savyntsi,Kharkiv region, and near Izyum, has been liberated by Ukraine from the orcs.
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Sounds like good news.
But what will happen when the thousands of extra Russian troops arrive on the scene ?
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Sounds like good news.
But what will happen when the thousands of extra Russian troops arrive on the scene ?
Then they'll suffer the same fate as the "elite" Russian troops before them.
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Sounds like good news.
But what will happen when the thousands of extra Russian troops arrive on the scene ?
Likely reality of right now? In this climate?
In this type of fast rout, those RF troops leaving in panic give piss poor info to command,which in russ8an military is crucial.
The incoming RF reinforcement units wont know exactly where to go, or whats going in in any detail, they will be nervous themselves and will face paniced retreating RF troops and ukrainian troops advancing fast.
Retreatimg troops will face friendly fire as a huge possibility and chaos insues.
Thats the most likely thing today.
Now give that a week if things stsbilize and they might add some support to.the battlefield.right now they would more likely add to.the chaois and increase thier own causulties .
Ive heard the rf helo'ed in reinforcements to.izum but afu had already incircled and bypassed in the first.wave.so just let them.helo them.in.. they were trapped regardless.
Second and third and 4th wave was clean up.
The AFU is way further in.my opinion than any map shows.
Nothing verified, but i'd say that lyman ,yampila, most of that izym sector is under afu, again just my opinion.
Russia will be quite lucky to stop.them at severodonestk today,and who knowx thru the night.
If the manpower and supplly exists i wouldnt give them.a moments break until.i.reached belgorad
Sheknity and rostov.and took all.close airbases.😅🤣
Semper fi.
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The most amusing thing ive seen today, and Chesty Puller would love it..
The kherson counter offensive explained:
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And this is funny ..
I have no idea if its real.or faked.
But it is amusing
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You just knew someone would do it lol
http://youtu.be/nhpfNnqtinE
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Russian state tv is saying it's the UK trained Ukrainian troops that have been taking back the Kharkiv region over the past week.
Nice to know :clapping:
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Russian state tv is saying it's the UK trained Ukrainian troops that have been taking back the Kharkiv region over the past week.
Nice to know :clapping:
It is fantastic to see and I think the counteroffensive was waiting on those troops to be available.
I've seen numerous vids, these guys are reacting to contact like well trained and experienced and well oiled troops.
They immediately take the initiative,the offensive, and don't let the enemy control the situation at all.
Kudos all around to their training and courage.
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The delusions of the Orc supporters at the other place is alive and well. According to one learned Orc supporter this is all psyops and fake news.
:ROFL:
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Izyum and Vovchans'k have both been liberated by Ukrainian troops from the orcs in the Kharkiv region.
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The delusions of the Orc supporters at the other place is alive and well. According to one learned Orc supporter this is all psyops and fake news.
:ROFL:
The orc supporters on there,led by the deluded Putler fanboy owner, are particularly prone to spouting pompous rubbish about subjects they think they are experts on, but their posts show they are totally ignorant about everything .I suspect some of them are going senile.
Fathertime is in good company there now. ;D
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I was going to ask there if russian state department was a fake telegram.account :)
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The orc supporters on there,led by the deluded Putler fanboy owner, are particularly prone to spouting pompous rubbish about subjects they think they are experts on, but their posts show they are totally ignorant about everything .I suspect some of them are going senile.
Fathertime is in good company there now. ;D
Collaborators, the lot of them. We know what happened to such in in WW2.
I don’t know who FT is over there.
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Jonas!
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There are reports that there is another front opening around Marinka area toward Donetsk. ???
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There are reports that there is another front opening around Marinka area toward Donetsk. ???
Pushing into the Donbass while they have momentum there makes sense to me. After Donbass/Lugansk striking south towards Melitopol & Mariupol would probably be a good choice, it's a long front so difficult for the Orcs to hold a long line and predict where along that line an attack may come from. Attacking Kherson itself never made any sense to me as it's kind of hitting the door full on with a short compact battlefront and then a city full of civilians and entrenched Orcs about at least 20,000 or more apparently. So doesn't surprise me they chose not to do that as like said before it would be easier to go around it and come down from the south and cut it off and hopefully get them to capitulate when supplies run out. Russia's troop morale us apparently as low as ever so on the back of a successful counter-offensive that seems a reasonable surmise.
The rot runs deep in the Russian war machine. Ukraine is exposing it for all to see
http://www.cnn.com/2022/09/13/europe/ukraine-advance-russia-war-analysis-intl-hnk-ml/index.html
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The orcs elite of the elite,it's 1st Guards Tank Army,was crushed in the Ukrainian counter offensive in the Kharkiv region.
These were the troops designated to defend Moscow in the event of war with NATO.
Putler "I've had enough ...send our best troops into Ukraine and show them who's boss "
His henchmen " Err we already sent them in and they're either dead,crippled or pow's.You might find a few survivors running round the woods like headless chickens ".
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True or not . . . I don't know.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/9/12/2122443/-Some-Russian-troops-near-Kherson-may-be-negotiating-their-surrender?utm_campaign=recent
http://english.nv.ua/nation/some-russian-units-near-kherson-trying-to-surrender-in-ukraine-war-50269440.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/putin-troops-surrender-fever-sweeps-through-ranks-in-ukraine-after-russian-forces-collapse
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1668201/putin-news-coup-fears-chechens-sent-to-moscow-russia-ukraine-war
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1668201/putin-news-coup-fears-chechens-sent-to-moscow-russia-ukraine-war (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1668201/putin-news-coup-fears-chechens-sent-to-moscow-russia-ukraine-war)
The Daily Express,like many of our UK newspapers,isn't a reliable source of information.
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Pushing into the Donbass while they have momentum there makes sense to me. After Donbass/Lugansk striking south towards Melitopol & Mariupol would probably be a good choice, it's a long front so difficult for the Orcs to hold a long line and predict where along that line an attack may come from. Attacking Kherson itself never made any sense to me as it's kind of hitting the door full on with a short compact battlefront and then a city full of civilians and entrenched Orcs about at least 20,000 or more apparently. So doesn't surprise me they chose not to do that as like said before it would be easier to go around it and come down from the south and cut it off and hopefully get them to capitulate when supplies run out. Russia's troop morale us apparently as low as ever so on the back of a successful counter-offensive that seems a reasonable surmise.
The rot runs deep in the Russian war machine. Ukraine is exposing it for all to see
http://www.cnn.com/2022/09/13/europe/ukraine-advance-russia-war-analysis-intl-hnk-ml/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2022/09/13/europe/ukraine-advance-russia-war-analysis-intl-hnk-ml/index.html)
The sources I had were Russian. There is a large buildup of soldiers in southern Zap region, unconfirmed by Ukraine. The idea was to take Donetsk city but makes sense to close area down to Mariupol then bomb the Kerch bridge and you'll have tens of thousands soldiers stuck.
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Apparently millions of $/£ worth of military equipment seized in the Ukrainian counter-offensive up past Kharkiv. Apparently amounts to a billion $/£ in total seized by Ukraine since the start of the war. Tanks, artillery, planes, helicopter, armaments even a top secret electronic jamming device taken in the haul. Russian troops are fleeing en-masse or surrendering to Ukrainian forces, most are inexperienced, unpaid and a complete collapse in morale. If Putler can't reinforce successfully then it looks like Ukraine could end up rolling up the whole Russian line from here. Worth a shot with them pushing as far and as fast as they can to avoid giving time for Russia to reinforce their troops. Looks like the Russian army is in a state of total collapse and potentially victory for Ukraine could suddenly be on the cards!
Russia is looking especially weak now after suffering big losses in the war, it's looking like now is the time to take advantage and not doubt oneself and hammer them hard before winter sets in. Potentially if Ukraine does that it may be able to win this war by late September/October as I don't think Russia really has anything left in it.
Just think by this Christmas we could be seeing sex tours, ahem... I mean love tours back in Kherson :D
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Natalia Humeniuk,spokesperson for command of southern operation,"Almost all of Kherson is now under our(Ukrainian) fire control ".
It ain't looking good for Putler and his Kremlin cronies.
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Natalia Humeniuk,spokesperson for command of southern operation,"Almost all of Kherson is now under our(Ukrainian) fire control ".
It ain't looking good for Putler and his Kremlin cronies.
Putsollinied on the Kremlin wall would be a rather fitting end.
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Putsollinied on the Kremlin wall would be a rather fitting end.
Clever, but what is your specific definition of the word ?
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Zelensky today "Last night Russian terrorists attempted to strike the south Ukraine Nuclear Plant in the Mykolaiv region.A missile fell 300 metres from the plant . "
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Russian troops struck the Pivdennoukrainsk nuclear power plant in Ukraine's southern Mykolaiv region early on Monday but its reactors have not been damaged and are working normally, Ukraine's state nuclear company Energoatom said.
A blast took place 300 metres (yards) away from the reactors and damaged power plant buildings shortly after midnight, Energoatom said in a statement. The attack has also damaged a nearby hydroelectric power plant and transmission lines.
"Currently, all three power units of the PNPP (Pivdennoukrainsk Nuclear Power Plant) are operating normally. Fortunately, there were no casualties among the station staff," Energoatom said.
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-russia-strikes-pivdennoukrainsk-nuclear-power-plant-reactors-2022-09-19/
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Putin calls in a fortune teller to get a glimpse of things.
Putin: what does my future hold?
Fortune teller: i.am sorry president Putin, i am.afraid but certain that you will pass away on a ukrainian holiday
Putin:
Really? On which ukrainian holiday?
Fortune teller:
Mr president. any day you die will be a Ukrainian holiday
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Looks like Putin is about to employ a fake referendum in the Russian controlled regions, Kherson, Melitopol, Mariupol, the Donbas and Lugansk regions to make them Russian territory. That goes against what he said at the outset that it wasn't about Russia gaining more territory so like Hitler another liar who you can't trust a word that they say. Looks like the idea is to claim those areas as part of Russia then say any further counterattack on those areas will be an Invasion by Ukraine and hence an act of war by Ukraine lol. Thus giving Putler a pretext to formally declare war on Ukraine and hence powers to mobilise and conscript a greater number of Russian men into the Russian Army for the war. That may amount to up to one million men issue is they will be untrained so does Putler use them en-masse to overwhelm the Ukrainian Army or does he instead use WMD, nukes etc to try and win the war.
I can't see Ukraine cease it's counter-offensive and I don't blame them. I wouldn't either even under the threat of nukes as if you go along with Putler he'll just take Ukraine bit by bit anyway so really there is no choice but to fight this one out. I think with a possible threat of WMD's on the horizon the UK/US would be justified in giving a few Nukes to Ukraine. After all we all signed up to the Budapest Memorandum in which Ukraine agreed to give up its Nukes for assurances it would not be attacked but Russia has failed to honour that agreement, only right we give them back some Nukes seeing as that agreement has been broken I think.
Putin announces immediate partial mobilization of Russian citizens
http://edition.cnn.com/webview/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-09-21-22/index.html
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-news-putins-forces-clearly-in-panic-russia-12541713
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NATO and the west must not give in to Putler over Ukraine.
The pundits in the media are talking about giving Putler an off-ramp now.
There is no off-ramp for a man who's broken the Budapest agreement and is a pathological liar....appeasement doesn't work with the likes of him and Hitler.
If we wring our hands and allow the madman to take Donetsk,Luhansk,Kherson and Zaporozhye, where does it end ?
NATO was too soft over him stealing Crimea and now look what's happened.
What's to stop him making a declaration that all Polish citizens must serve as slaves to Russia and if they don't he'll nuke them ?
Ukraine is no less deserving of full NATO support,including nukes,as Poland is.
I'd go further than arming Ukraine with nukes...i'd arm Poland,Latvia,Estonia,Lithuania,Finland with them too,if those countries wanted them....all pointing at Russia,but under the control of NATO forces with the launch codes, outside those countries to prevent rogue factions taking control of them.
Russia needs to be encircled by nukes.....the nuclear threats from Putler are becoming tiresome.
Russians are now trying to flee the country,with all flights to Georgia,Armenia and Turkey being snapped up at five times the normal price...they're not too keen on fighting for the nutjob after seeing what's happened to their "elite" military in Ukraine.
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Up to 10km queues now forming at the Russian border with Finland as the Russians attempt to flee their country.
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FREEDOM!
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Up to 10km queues now forming at the Russian border with Finland as the Russians attempt to flee their country.
Must not be too alarming since Russia has not imposed a ban on military age people leaving, as did Ukraine.
But with airlines fully booked, our Big Bill might have trouble getting back out of Russia.
Maybe he will be drafted . . . but not to play basketball.
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Five British nationals,who have been in captivity by separatists,have been released today.
The UK Government thanked President Zelensky and .....Saudi Arabia ...for their assistance in achieving this.
Makes one wonder what Saudi Arabia's involvement was.
Could they have threatened to collapse Oil prices if the Brits weren't released ?
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Must not be too alarming since Russia has not imposed a ban on military age people leaving, as did Ukraine.
But with airlines fully booked, our Big Bill might have trouble getting back out of Russia.
Maybe he will be drafted . . . but not to play basketball.
Actually I am.pretty sure thec
What the rada passed overnight does restrict travel of Russian manned military age unless they get a letter from.the local.military branch excusing them for travel.
Im.not 100% on that or when it would take effect but I thought today.
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103 soldiers and five officers,including the Commander and Deputy Commander, from the Azov Battalion were released in a prisoner exchange with Russians yesterday.
Hang on i thought the Azov Battalion were all Nazis according to the Putler fanboys in the other place,and were a major reason the orcs invaded Ukraine ...you know to de-Nazify Ukraine as the site owner loves to claim ?
Seems odd that the fascist orcs are releasing so-called Nazis,as they're going to so much trouble to liberate Ukraine from them.
He'll be gnashing his teeth now ;D
Ten foreign nationals,including the five Brits and two from the USA, were also released...plus another 80 defenders of Mariupol and Azovstal who were national guards,marines,border guards,policemen,territorial defense,security service employees.
In total 215 pow's were released by the orcs.
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103 soldiers and five officers,including the Commander and Deputy Commander, from the Azov Battalion were released in a prisoner exchange with Russians yesterday.
Hang on i thought the Azov Battalion were all Nazis according to the Putler fanboys in the other place,and were a major reason the orcs invaded Ukraine ...you know to de-Nazify Ukraine as the site owner loves to claim ?
Seems odd that the fascist orcs are releasing so-called Nazis,as they're going to so much trouble to liberate Ukraine from them.
You do realize the price Ukraine had to pay, right? It wasn't exactly a goodwill gesture by Russia.
Ukraine had to give up Putin's close personal friend, Medvedchuk. Putin is godfather to Medvedchuk's daughter.
Try looking at things from Putin's perspective. What if Putin actually intends to use nuclear weapons on Ukraine? Perhaps the reason Putin hasn't nuked Ukraine yet is because he was afraid his friend Medvedchuk would get killed in the blast.
And if he just killed the Azov fighters Russia was holding, the world would get in a huff about it.
But if he trades Medvedchuk, he can have him safely back in Russia. The Azov fighters are returned to Ukraine, where they will die in the nuclear blasts.
At that point, no one will care about the Azov fighters. The collective world will be in such shock that it isn't funny. If the world realizes that Putin is serious about using nukes...sh*t just got real. The world will back down and placate him. I think we all know that Biden won't do anything. He's too busy trying to shake hands with imaginary people.
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You do realize the price Ukraine had to pay, right? It wasn't exactly a goodwill gesture by Russia.
Ukraine had to give up Putin's close personal friend, Medvedchuk. Putin is godfather to Medvedchuk's daughter.
Try looking at things from Putin's perspective. What if Putin actually intends to use nuclear weapons on Ukraine? Perhaps the reason Putin hasn't nuked Ukraine yet is because he was afraid his friend Medvedchuk would get killed in the blast.
And if he just killed the Azov fighters Russia was holding, the world would get in a huff about it.
But if he trades Medvedchuk, he can have him safely back in Russia. The Azov fighters are returned to Ukraine, where they will die in the nuclear blasts.
At that point, no one will care about the Azov fighters. The collective world will be in such shock that it isn't funny. If the world realizes that Putin is serious about using nukes...sh*t just got real. The world will back down and placate him. I think we all know that Biden won't do anything. He's too busy trying to shake hands with imaginary people.
Well,actually nuking Ukraine wouldn't kill the released officers of the Azov Battalion,including the Commander and Deputy Commander ....because they'll be held in Turkey until the end of the war..release conditions of Putler who is scared of them commanding Ukraine troops at the front. ;D
As for Medvedchuck...well if Ukraine is nuked it will just mean he dies in Russia instead of Ukraine, because the radiation fallout WILL affect surrounding NATO countries which will trigger article 5 and bye bye Russia.
Of course Putler may well take you,me and everyone else with him..but under article 5 there can be no bending over and placating him.
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Xcuse moi…
Putin’s BIGGEST miscalculation, in a whole series of miscalculations, was in “timing”
He waited until Nord Stream II was finished BEFORE starting the “Ukrainian Special Operation” Part III, after Crimea, and Donbas….
He prioritized gas deliveries to Europe too much, cuz it's most of his income
If instead, he had launched the Special Operation during Trump’s presidency, and not been delayed because of the gas issue,
the outcome would’ve been hugely different under a Trump Presidency….
But now….
More Russian casualties than Afghanistan, huge loss of equipment, Russian economy will shrink by 12% by end of next year, 300,000 reserves just called up, more resources diverted to military instead of civilian
now both North Stream I and II are turned off, and almost no gas flowing through Ukraine, means only Russian gas that can be sold to Europe is through South Stream
meanwhile, US’s LNG exports are eating into Russia’s former market, and is set to completely replace Russian gas in 5 more years…
Russia sells oil to China now, with a HUGE discount costing Russia $30 per barrel!!!
hundreds of thousands of Russians are FLEEING
Russian Oligarch yachts are disappearing
so the US ends up with a HUGE stimulus to it’s weapons industry, and indirectly kicks Russia’s ass, without losing a single casualty, and ends up owning Europe’s gas industry
I say, let Biden talk to his imaginary friends, cuz maybe they’re the ones giving him the plan, and so far it’s “kicking ASS”
using Ukraine to fight a war to contain Russia, and WINNING the WAR is a phuqing BRILLIANT IDEA...
doncha think so?
I mean, just think for a minute, what it would mean, if Ukraine actually WON this war!!!
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103 soldiers and five officers,including the Commander and Deputy Commander, from the Azov Battalion were released in a prisoner exchange with Russians yesterday.
Hang on i thought the Azov Battalion were all Nazis according to the Putler fanboys in the other place,and were a major reason the orcs invaded Ukraine ...you know to de-Nazify Ukraine as the site owner loves to claim ?
Seems odd that the fascist orcs are releasing so-called Nazis,as they're going to so much trouble to liberate Ukraine from them.
He'll be gnashing his teeth now ;D
Ten foreign nationals,including the five Brits and two from the USA, were also released...plus another 80 defenders of Mariupol and Azovstal who were national guards,marines,border guards,policemen,territorial defense,security service employees.
In total 215 pow's were released by the orcs.
"to de-Nazify Ukraine as the site owner loves to claim" -- Not this site owner.
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You do realize the price Ukraine had to pay, right? It wasn't exactly a goodwill gesture by Russia.
Ukraine had to give up Putin's close personal friend, Medvedchuk. Putin is godfather to Medvedchuk's daughter.
Try looking at things from Putin's perspective. What if Putin actually intends to use nuclear weapons on Ukraine? Perhaps the reason Putin hasn't nuked Ukraine yet is because he was afraid his friend Medvedchuk would get killed in the blast.
And if he just killed the Azov fighters Russia was holding, the world would get in a huff about it.
But if he trades Medvedchuk, he can have him safely back in Russia. The Azov fighters are returned to Ukraine, where they will die in the nuclear blasts.
At that point, no one will care about the Azov fighters. The collective world will be in such shock that it isn't funny. If the world realizes that Putin is serious about using nukes...sh*t just got real. The world will back down and placate him. I think we all know that Biden won't do anything. He's too busy trying to shake hands with imaginary people.
Medvedchuk is an old guy so he could cark it at any time so his usefulness is probably limited. Possibly he might be brought in to oversee the new Russian territories. I doubt that there is likely to be much of a big win for either side so far as the big picture is concerned, more just another prisoner swap for both sides convenience. With the separatist areas soon to become a part of Russia the argument with the Separatists had jurisdiction over whether the Brits, etc got shot as Mercenaries would no longer hold as it would fall on Russia as their claimed territory. So in that respects it likely became expedient just to let go off that issue.
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I mean, just think for a minute, what it would mean, if Ukraine actually WON this war!!!
For sure if Ukraine won and left Russia knackered out economically and militarily then that could prove the opportune moment for a break up of the Russian Federation. Generally those that lose wars are most prone to such particularly large empires. So Putler despite wanting to gain more territory may bring about Russia's complete downfall as a result of all of his mis-calculations. Looks like we're going into the winter with this war first, Putler may figure the Ukrainians might be most hard pressed then and use it to strike in with heavy troop numbers, the 300,000. Odds are though this conflict will continue over into 2023 barring any collapse or putsch on the Russian side. I'm guessing then things will come to a head possibly. That or Putler will keep calling up more troops. Russia has a seemingly almost inexhaustible number of men to call up and throw in there possibly Putler is hoping Ukraine will get exhausting along the way if a long conflict seemingly without end and either come to terms or throw in the towel. It's making hard work of it if it goes the distance and of course unfortunately much human suffering and misery along the way with it.
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As for Medvedchuck...well if Ukraine is nuked it will just mean he dies in Russia instead of Ukraine, because the radiation fallout WILL affect surrounding NATO countries which will trigger article 5 and bye bye Russia.
Radiation drifting across national borders will not trigger Article 5. If it did, Chernobyl would have triggered Article 5, because radiation drifted around the world.
If radiation drifting across borders triggered Article 5, then airborne pollution drifting across borders could also be deemed an attack. See my point?
Russians shot down over 1200 US planes in Vietnam. That didn't trigger Article 5, so why would radiation drifting across a border?
Where do you draw the line of what an attack is? I don't think NATO would respond militarily to a nuclear strike in Ukraine. I do think countries would respond with even more severe sanctions, possibly to the point of cutting off all trade with Russia, and probably cancelling all Russian visas.
I do believe Russia (and China) will nuke America into oblivion when America is totally unexpecting it, but we are probably looking at more like 6-8 years in the future.
I am hoping that the partial mobilization is a sufficient escalation to convince the US to provide Ukraine with ATACMS missiles to hit farther into occupied territory, and I hope the US gives Ukraine serious numbers of Abrams tanks and Warthogs.
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Russia's strength in war has generally relied on overwhelming with greater numbers. With Ukraine they failed at the outset partly by not bringing a large enough army to attack and envelope Ukraine from all side as it initially looked like they were aiming for, before the invasion begun. If Ukraine can overcome Russia with help from the west then the biggest gift the west could gain is a break up of the Russian Federation. That would split Russia up into many separate states thereby breaking the ability of any country there to raise a large army and overwhelm and dominate it neighbours. All depends on how this conflict pans out.
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"to de-Nazify Ukraine as the site owner loves to claim" -- Not this site owner.
Apologies....i should have posted THAT site owner.
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Radiation drifting across national borders will not trigger Article 5. If it did, Chernobyl would have triggered Article 5, because radiation drifted around the world.
If radiation drifting across borders triggered Article 5, then airborne pollution drifting across borders could also be deemed an attack. See my point ?
Chernobyl was a complete accident so not an act of war which triggers article 5.
Russia nuking Ukraine and causing radiation fallout over NATO countries is an act of war which triggers article 5.
Spot the difference ?
Your point about Chernobyl is valid in that the radiation fallout reached as far as the north of UK...which proves my point about radiation fallout from a nuclear strike on Ukraine WILL affect NATO countries....which will lead to the total obliteration of Russia with Nukes coming from the USA,UK and France. >:D .
Bearing in mind the unreliability of Russia's poorly maintained missiles ..as shown by a lot of their missiles fired from Belgorod actually falling out of the sky and hitting Belgorod instead of Ukraine...there's a pretty good chance Russia will also be nuking themselves too. :)
As for your point about Russians shooting down US aircraft in Vietnam,well that isn't an attack on a NATO country,just as NATO supplying Ukraine with weapons to shoot down Russian aircraft hasn't been considered an attack on Russia by Putler.
Neither action affected either USA or Russian territory.
A nuclear strike on Ukraine,with Russia knowing full well the radiation fallout will hit NATO countries WILL be considered an attack on NATO,as it affects NATO members territory....and as the USA and UK have both already warned Putler " Nothing will be off the table in our response".
So Putler " Do you feel lucky " ? >:D
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I fear Krim may be right that chemical weapons may become Russia's favoured weapon of attack. Word around seems to suggest that is what he may do. Probably on Ukrainian forces mainly I would guess but with the Russians you never know. If possible Ukraine needs to prepare as best it can if not already for these chemical attacks but they may be limited to what they can do to protect themselves.
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Russia nuking Ukraine and causing radiation fallout over NATO countries is an act of war which triggers article 5.
How would radiation be considered an act of war? It sounds like wishful thinking on your part.
Think about it. How much radiation drifting across the border is acceptable, and how much is too much? After all, there is naturally some radiation that is naturally occurring. Where do you draw the line between what is a tolerable amount of radiation, and what is intolerable?
which proves my point about radiation fallout from a nuclear strike on Ukraine WILL affect NATO countries....which will lead to the total obliteration of Russia with Nukes coming from the USA,UK and France. >:D .
Once again, wishful thinking. US nuclear doctrine only permits the use of nukes in the event of a nuclear attack on the US.
A nuclear strike on Ukraine,with Russia knowing full well the radiation fallout will hit NATO countries WILL be considered an attack on NATO,as it affects NATO members territory....and as the USA and UK have both already warned Putler " Nothing will be off the table in our response".
Where do you get the idea that radioactive fallout will be considered an attack on NATO?
You don't actually believe everything the talking heads say do you? Nothing will be off the table is a reference to boots on the ground, military confrontation, and more severe sanctions. It is not a suicidal wish for mutually assured destruction.
Biden is afraid to do anything without everyone in NATO agreeing. They had a hard enough time convincing all NATO countries to impose sanctions. Do you really think they could convince everyone to use nukes on Russia, which would be a guaranteed way to destroy the economies of the NATO member countries? Most countries are already reeling from the past few years of Covid, etc.
We're already hearing NATO member countries wanting to encourage a ceasefire now, and allow Russia to keep all the territory it occupies now. Let people go through a cold winter with low availability of heating fuel, exorbitant high prices when it is available, the continued financial drain of supporting Ukraine, the prospects of an even more severe economic recession, etc...do you really think they will have the stomach to accept much higher levels of pain?
Wealthy folks can handle a hit to their finances. They don't like it, but they can tolerate it. They still have enough money to pay the bills and put food on the table.
Poor people can't afford a hit. As soon as costs start increasing, they start having to prioritize whether they pay bills, food, medicines, etc. When your life becomes a daily struggle for survival, it's hard to care about the struggles of someone in another country.
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Well Referendums under way in the occupied regions to join Russia, gee I wonder which way they will vote lol.
My guess is following this Russia will make all citizens Russian citizens, and push forward with further measures of Russification clamping down on all who push against the tide or refuse to go along with it. Odds are I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of men are forcibly conscripted into the Russian armies in these regions (Donbass & Luhansk mostly already have done) and then used as cannon fodder against the Ukrainian forces.
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How would radiation be considered an act of war? It sounds like wishful thinking on your part.
Think about it. How much radiation drifting across the border is acceptable, and how much is too much? After all, there is naturally some radiation that is naturally occurring. Where do you draw the line between what is a tolerable amount of radiation, and what is intolerable?
Once again, wishful thinking. US nuclear doctrine only permits the use of nukes in the event of a nuclear attack on the US.
Where do you get the idea that radioactive fallout will be considered an attack on NATO?
You don't actually believe everything the talking heads say do you? Nothing will be off the table is a reference to boots on the ground, military confrontation, and more severe sanctions. It is not a suicidal wish for mutually assured destruction.
Biden is afraid to do anything without everyone in NATO agreeing. They had a hard enough time convincing all NATO countries to impose sanctions. Do you really think they could convince everyone to use nukes on Russia, which would be a guaranteed way to destroy the economies of the NATO member countries? Most countries are already reeling from the past few years of Covid, etc.
We're already hearing NATO member countries wanting to encourage a ceasefire now, and allow Russia to keep all the territory it occupies now. Let people go through a cold winter with low availability of heating fuel, exorbitant high prices when it is available, the continued financial drain of supporting Ukraine, the prospects of an even more severe economic recession, etc...do you really think they will have the stomach to accept much higher levels of pain?
Wealthy folks can handle a hit to their finances. They don't like it, but they can tolerate it. They still have enough money to pay the bills and put food on the table.
Poor people can't afford a hit. As soon as costs start increasing, they start having to prioritize whether they pay bills, food, medicines, etc. When your life becomes a daily struggle for survival, it's hard to care about the struggles of someone in another country.
You seem pretty naive and uninformed about the effects of acute exposure to radiation..i'm not interested in informing you,so i suggest you read up on it.
If you don't think people dying of radiation sickness in NATO because of a nuclear strike by Russia within Europe isn't an act of war then you need help.
As for the USA nuclear doctrine,well watch their response if people in Poland,Estonia,Latvia etc start dying because of radiation sickness caused by Russian hitting Ukraine with a nuke...and be prepared to be shocked and in awe, seeing as that's what you believe.
By the way the USA nuclear doctrine says nothing about nukes only being used in the event of a nuclear attack on the USA as you claim..
The USA actually reserves the right to use nuclear weapons first in the case of conflict.
This bit will particularly enlighten you.
"The USA would only consider the use of nuclear weapons in extreme circumstances to defend the vital interests of the USA, OUR ALLIES AND PARTNERS.
Just to clarify....Ukraine is an ally and partner.
Once again i suggest you do some reading...because i shouldn't have to teach you about your own country's nuclear doctrine.
As for NATO's agreement for Nuclear retaliation on Russia ,the USA,France and the UK have nuclear weapons for a reason and they wouldn't need NATO's agreement as Ukraine isn't part of NATO...but IS an ally and partner,hence the huge support being given to that country in this war.
NATO didn't agree to the USA and UK invading Iraq but we still did it.
So the reality for you is that the USA could actually launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Russia if they feel it's warranted in the current conflict.No doubt the USA is constantly monitoring Russia's nuclear activity in readiness for just such an event.
As for the general public....nope no lessening of support for Ukraine here in the UK,,,,still plenty of Ukrainian flags flying everywhere.
We're well aware Russia needs to be defeated ...we all see Putler threatening us with nukes.
Looks like the support for Ukraine is huge in the USA too...i saw a CBS studio audience spontaneously get out of their seats and give a standing ovation for Ukraine when the Ukraine Foreign Minister walked in for an interview this week.
He said i thank you for your reception,but i suspect this was for the Ukrainian people.
At that they all got out of their seats and gave another standing ovation.
By the way you should watch the interview if you can ...one thing in particular he said is that it's human to feel fear,but you need to rise above it to defeat Putin...as the Ukrainians are doing.
It might help you.
I sense fear in your postings,hence your clutching at false straws about the USA will only use nukes if the USA is attacked by nukes....and the public is not really interested in what happens in Ukraine.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
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politics is a combination of chess and poker
sometimes when you're down, you can raise your bet
and hope the higher ante leads to hesitation by the other players (interpreting it as higher risk)
but this is ALWAYS a bluff move, strictly for SHOW...
Putin, is WAY down in this game, and only has a short term strategy of bluffing
the end of the european oil and gas market will be the checkmate move that takes the king
not to mention, the USA's LNG exports will replace all the Russian gas
Russia's oil sells for a steep discount to China compared to Europe
in 5 more years
GAME OVER MAN!
for Russia's oil and gas industry! Dass Va Danya, don't let the door hit you on your jhoppa on your way out!!!
Paka!!!
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If you don't think people dying of radiation sickness in NATO because of a nuclear strike by Russia within Europe isn't an act of war then you need help.
But the likelihood of people in NATO dying from radiation sickness because of a nuke used in Ukraine are practically non-existent.
I've visited Chernobyl twice. I was exposed to more radiation during the flight to Ukraine than I was when I was at the reactor.
As for the USA nuclear doctrine,well watch their response if people in Poland,Estonia,Latvia etc start dying because of radiation sickness caused by Russian hitting Ukraine with a nuke...and be prepared to be shocked and in awe, seeing as that's what you believe.
But, they're not going to be dying.
By the way the USA nuclear doctrine says nothing about nukes only being used in the event of a nuclear attack on the USA as you claim..
The USA actually reserves the right to use nuclear weapons first in the case of conflict.
This bit will particularly enlighten you.
"The USA would only consider the use of nuclear weapons in extreme circumstances to defend the vital interests of the USA, OUR ALLIES AND PARTNERS.
That's called bluff and bluster. Let me assure you that the US will not risk a nuclear war over Ukraine.
Just to clarify....Ukraine is an ally and partner.
Once again i suggest you do some reading...because i shouldn't have to teach you about your own country's nuclear doctrine.
Just to clarify...Ukraine is not a NATO partner, and the US does not have any security guarantees to protect Ukraine.
The written nuclear doctrine is vague and ambiguous. Don't waste your time reading it. Talk to people in the know if you want to know what the real doctrine is.
as Ukraine isn't part of NATO...but IS an ally and partner,hence the huge support being given to that country in this war.
Saying that Ukraine is an ally and partner is vague and ambiguous. And ally and partner in what ways? Ukraine is being used as a "justifiable" proxy war against Russia. That is why it is being given support.
So the reality for you is that the USA could actually launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Russia if they feel it's warranted in the current conflict.
No, the reality is that the US won't launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Russia over Ukraine. No ifs, ands, or buts. The US will never feel a pre-emptive strike is warranted against Russia.
Looks like the support for Ukraine is huge in the USA too...i saw a CBS studio audience spontaneously get out of their seats and give a standing ovation for Ukraine when the Ukraine Foreign Minister walked in for an interview this week.
LMAO. You do realize that studio audiences are instructed on how to behave, and TV screens who they want in the audience, right? Studio audiences are staged performances.
Once a week I travel to the big city. (over a million people.) Do you know how often I see Ukrainian flags? I can count on one hand the number of Ukrainian flags I have seen displayed all summer long. Most folks in the US don't care about Ukrainians, and couldn't find Ukraine on a map.
A lot of Americans over age 30 still think that Ukraine is a part of Russia. You would be astonished by the number of people who find out that I have been to Ukraine before, and think that I traveled to Russia.
Sorry to burst your bubble. (And believe me, I live in America and I know American attitudes and beliefs far more than a Brit does. Don't delude yourself into thinking that you know more about America than an American does.)
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4 trident submarines
2 in the pacific, 2 in the atlantic
contain enough nuclear weapons, to annhilate every major Russian city 20 minutes after launching...
there would be no central Russian government left
and these guys say, that Pootin's talkin BS
OK???
the US doesn't need to supply Ukraine with longer range weapons, just keep the current flow going like they have been!!!
the war is costing Russia $400 million/day vrs maybe $100 million/day for us
but Russia also has personnel and equipment losses
overall, a huge win for us, would be STOOPID of us to stop our enemy from destroying themselves this way, as opposed to using it as an opportunity to do as much damage as possible, but with the most minimum cost to you over the long term
game theory says to do EXACTLY what Biden's imaginary friend told him to do!!!!
praise Jesus!!
and pass the ammunition!
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As far as American support for the war goes, I still see it pretty evenly divided on social media along political lines. Just as it has been since the beginning.
Liberals “stand with Ukraine”; conservatives post online about how we should be spending that money at home.
I haven’t looked at surveys or polls, so I’m just talking in anecdotally, and that’s not worth much. But what I’ve seen online still feels about the same as I saw in the beginning.
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I dont think its clearly divided,other than those not supporting
tend to be conservative,mostly because of far right talking heads telling them not to.
But many conservatives support ukraine and want the usa to do so.
Countless ex military support ukraine.
So while non supportors tend to one side,that side tends in itself to be divided on this.
Overall in general i see mostly support
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conservatives post online about how we should be spending that money at home
guess where the money goes for the all the weapons we ship to Ukraine?
directly into the bank accounts of the US's military industrial complex
in other words, IT IS SPENT HERE!
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I am hoping that the partial mobilization is a sufficient escalation to convince the US to provide Ukraine with ATACMS missiles to hit farther into occupied territory, and I hope the US gives Ukraine serious numbers of Abrams tanks and Warthogs.
Russia has an equivalent to Article 5 with CSTO members. Attacking 'liberated' territories post-referenda may lead to Russia requesting support from CSTO members. Lukashenko 'cannot' say no, the Kremlin backed him during the last (disputed) presidential elections; the Belarus army would likely mobilize. Kazakhstan 'cannot' say no as the Russian Federation supported it earlier this year with an attempted coup.
If the Russian Federation declares war on Ukraine - how will it repel an additional 300,000 mobilized troops plus the Belarus army? (Shoigu intimated that Russia can mobilize 25 million if necessary.)
The more things escalate, the more people will die. Sadly there is no hope of a diplomatic resolution on the horizon, though at least with the prisoner swap parties are still communicating.
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Russia has an equivalent to Article 5 with CSTO members. Attacking 'liberated' territories post-referenda may lead to Russia requesting support from CSTO members. Lukashenko 'cannot' say no, the Kremlin backed him during the last (disputed) presidential elections; the Belarus army would likely mobilize. Kazakhstan 'cannot' say no as the Russian Federation supported it earlier this year with an attempted coup.
If the Russian Federation declares war on Ukraine - how will it repel an additional 300,000 mobilized troops plus the Belarus army? (Shoigu intimated that Russia can mobilize 25 million if necessary.)
The more things escalate, the more people will die. Sadly there is no hope of a diplomatic resolution on the horizon, though at least with the prisoner swap parties are still communicating.
I agree with this, Russia is manipulating the situation via the fake Referendums to try and get more forces to the front. It knows it needs way more troops than the initial invasion force it used to overcome Ukraine's forces. I think you're right that Belarus probably won't try to avoid getting dragged in if it sees that Moscow is throwing a lot more troops into the battle and thinks its own input will likely sway matters there. If Belarus attacks from the north then they can strike down towards Lviv. That's a whole new front that Ukraine will have to turn and protect against.
Ukraine has already lost a lot of troops in this war as well as Russia. Ukraine likely has reserves it can call up but aside fro m troop training in the west these will likely be largely untrained and inexperienced troops who will likely need at least quick rudimentary training and mixing in with more experienced troops. Possibly may be as many as 100,000 or so before they've got to turn to the population at large and constript into the army all those it had not, those who already had jobs elsewhere, the less willing to fight, etc. Questions are always abound of whether enough guns exist, rudimentary training availability in such circumstances. Odds are they will be just given a gun and dumped into a trench or similar to try to hold the ground, unfortunately becoming cannon fodder by default in such circumstances. If I was Ukraine, if they haven't already I would mobilize such troops now and get whatever rudimentary training and guns in while they can. They probably won't have much time before the 300,000 arrive and again I think Putler will call up more men in addition to the 300,000 once he annexes Ukrainian territory and Ukraine counterattacks into it. In addition to any CSTO forces he will likely declare it war and hence be able to call up more men in Russia which he will likely do.
The worst thing Ukraine can do at the moment is become complacent over its victories to date. Odds are it is on the verge of facing a massive Russian Army being formed and it needs to get all the men it can to the front to avoid being overwhelmed by force if numbers alone. This may indeed be the most deadly phase of the conflict so far. The west will have to ensure that Ukraine has the small arms it's needs to counter as well as whatever chemical warfare measures are possible. Underestimating Russia at this juncture I feel is both likely and of course fatal to Ukraine.
A few weeks ago a high up British warrant officer in the British Army told troops go see loved ones, priests, etc and prepare to go to war (in Ukraine). It sounded like troops may be in the process of mobilizing to be sent out to Ukraine to fight. That I found an unusual prospect as generally this has been a proxy war with denials issued early on by western nations/NATO that they would be sending troops. However likely they may have had worked out early on from now how Putler would likely play matters and might now be ready to send troops knowing that Ukraine alone might be hard pressed to fend off a massive Russian/CSTO army by itself. The west knows that neither itself nor Russia will use nukes on each other so it's largely down to a ground warfare conflict and it could likely become a free for all for whoever wanting to take part doing so. I think in the next few days & weeks we will likely see this all slotting into place. I as ever am focusing strategically on the dating aspect of this all ;D
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But the likelihood of people in NATO dying from radiation sickness because of a nuke used in Ukraine are practically non-existent.
I've visited Chernobyl twice. I was exposed to more radiation during the flight to Ukraine than I was when I was at the reactor.
But, they're not going to be dying.
That's called bluff and bluster. Let me assure you that the US will not risk a nuclear war over Ukraine.
Just to clarify...Ukraine is not a NATO partner, and the US does not have any security guarantees to protect Ukraine.
The written nuclear doctrine is vague and ambiguous. Don't waste your time reading it. Talk to people in the know if you want to know what the real doctrine is.
Saying that Ukraine is an ally and partner is vague and ambiguous. And ally and partner in what ways? Ukraine is being used as a "justifiable" proxy war against Russia. That is why it is being given support.
No, the reality is that the US won't launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Russia over Ukraine. No ifs, ands, or buts. The US will never feel a pre-emptive strike is warranted against Russia.
LMAO. You do realize that studio audiences are instructed on how to behave, and TV screens who they want in the audience, right? Studio audiences are staged performances.
Once a week I travel to the big city. (over a million people.) Do you know how often I see Ukrainian flags? I can count on one hand the number of Ukrainian flags I have seen displayed all summer long. Most folks in the US don't care about Ukrainians, and couldn't find Ukraine on a map.
A lot of Americans over age 30 still think that Ukraine is a part of Russia. You would be astonished by the number of people who find out that I have been to Ukraine before, and think that I traveled to Russia.
Sorry to burst your bubble. (And believe me, I live in America and I know American attitudes and beliefs far more than a Brit does. Don't delude yourself into thinking that you know more about America than an American does.)
People dying in NATO from a Russian nuclear strike on Ukraine would depend on where the strike is and the prevailing winds at the time.
Kiev is 431 miles/693km from Poland as the radiation blows.
As for American support for Ukraine,well Jumper is American and he says "overall in general i see mostly support ".
The same would apply in the UK.
I cannot comment on other NATO countries,although the Hungarian President Orban is pro-Russian,and openly mocks Zelensky.... the EU is threatening to withdraw EU funding from the country due to corruption and anti-democracy issues.
He's recently won another term in office.so one can assume the Hungarian general population agrees with him...unless the vote was rigged of course.
Hungary has also yet to ratify Finland and Sweden joining NATO....surprise surprise.
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I agree with this, Russia is manipulating the situation via the fake Referendums to try and get more forces to the front. It knows it needs way more troops than the initial invasion force it used to overcome Ukraine's forces. I think you're right that Belarus probably won't try to avoid getting dragged in if it sees that Moscow is throwing a lot more troops into the battle and thinks its own input will likely sway matters there. If Belarus attacks from the north then they can strike down towards Lviv. That's a whole new front that Ukraine will have to turn and protect against.
Ukraine has already lost a lot of troops in this war as well as Russia. Ukraine likely has reserves it can call up but aside fro m troop training in the west these will likely be largely untrained and inexperienced troops who will likely need at least quick rudimentary training and mixing in with more experienced troops. Possibly may be as many as 100,000 or so before they've got to turn to the population at large and constript into the army all those it had not, those who already had jobs elsewhere, the less willing to fight, etc. Questions are always abound of whether enough guns exist, rudimentary training availability in such circumstances. Odds are they will be just given a gun and dumped into a trench or similar to try to hold the ground, unfortunately becoming cannon fodder by default in such circumstances. If I was Ukraine, if they haven't already I would mobilize such troops now and get whatever rudimentary training and guns in while they can. They probably won't have much time before the 300,000 arrive and again I think Putler will call up more men in addition to the 300,000 once he annexes Ukrainian territory and Ukraine counterattacks into it. In addition to any CSTO forces he will likely declare it war and hence be able to call up more men in Russia which he will likely do.
The worst thing Ukraine can do at the moment is become complacent over its victories to date. Odds are it is on the verge of facing a massive Russian Army being formed and it needs to get all the men it can to the front to avoid being overwhelmed by force if numbers alone. This may indeed be the most deadly phase of the conflict so far. The west will have to ensure that Ukraine has the small arms it's needs to counter as well as whatever chemical warfare measures are possible. Underestimating Russia at this juncture I feel is both likely and of course fatal to Ukraine.
A few weeks ago a high up British warrant officer in the British Army told troops go see loved ones, priests, etc and prepare to go to war (in Ukraine). It sounded like troops may be in the process of mobilizing to be sent out to Ukraine to fight. That I found an unusual prospect as generally this has been a proxy war with denials issued early on by western nations/NATO that they would be sending troops. However likely they may have had worked out early on from now how Putler would likely play matters and might now be ready to send troops knowing that Ukraine alone might be hard pressed to fend off a massive Russian/CSTO army by itself. The west knows that neither itself nor Russia will use nukes on each other so it's largely down to a ground warfare conflict and it could likely become a free for all for whoever wanting to take part doing so. I think in the next few days & weeks we will likely see this all slotting into place. I as ever am focusing strategically on the dating aspect of this all ;D
The best orc troops have already been sent to Ukraine...and they're losing.
Therefore i'm not sure how much use 300,000 ,probably unmotivated reservists will be in the grand scheme of things,especially as there must be big doubts over the quality of the military equipment they'll be supplied with,
The new 3rd Army Putler formed to reinforce his flagging troops in Ukraine were the first to run in Ukraine's counter-offensive in the Kharkiv region..so no reason to think these 300,000 will be any better,
I suspect a few HIMARS strikes causing carnage among them will soon have them on their bikes and legging it.
Belarus troops will probably be unmotivated and Russia has already taken...and lost...a lot of their military equipment.
Lukashenko is also walking on very thin ice with his people....sending too many troops to Ukraine could well result in a coup against him while he's weakened.
Belarus volunteers fighting in Ukraine are praying he'll actually send troops into Ukraine so they can smash them and leave Lukashenko on his knees and ripe for his removal as President.
Would be hilarious if a new President is pro NATO and applies to join..imagine Putler's and Lavrov's faces : ))
Regarding the UK sending troops to help Ukraine i doubt that will happen unless the Ukrainian troops are seen to be struggling and there's no sign of that yet...it's the orcs who are retreating and fighting to hold their positions.
Then again our new PM does,quite rightly, intensely dislike Putler and his Kremlin...so who knows ?
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The best orc troops have already been sent to Ukraine...and they're losing.
Therefore i'm not sure how much use 300,000 ,probably unmotivated reservists will be in the grand scheme of things,especially as there must be big doubts over the quality of the military equipment they'll be supplied with,
The new 3rd Army Putler formed to reinforce his flagging troops in Ukraine were the first to run in Ukraine's counter-offensive in the Kharkiv region..so no reason to think these 300,000 will be any better,
I suspect a few HIMARS strikes causing carnage among them will soon have them on their bikes and legging it.
Belarus troops will probably be unmotivated and Russia has already taken...and lost...a lot of their military equipment.
Lukashenko is also walking on very thin ice with his people....sending too many troops to Ukraine could well result in a coup against him while he's weakened.
Belarus volunteers fighting in Ukraine are praying he'll actually send troops into Ukraine so they can smash them and leave Lukashenko on his knees and ripe for his removal as President.
Would be hilarious if a new President is pro NATO and applies to join..imagine Putler's and Lavrov's faces : ))
Regarding the UK sending troops to help Ukraine i doubt that will happen unless the Ukrainian troops are seen to be struggling and there's no sign of that yet...it's the orcs who are retreating and fighting to hold their positions.
Then again our new PM does,quite rightly, intensely dislike Putler and his Kremlin...so who knows ?
Yeah I don't think she was treated well by them last time she was in Moscow and their jibes towards her riding a tank probably didn't go down well.
The 300,000 will likely be the thin end of the wedge, we're likely talking many troops from CSTO countries and a bigger call up in Russia of the back of the 300,000. The 300,000 are pretty much all ex-military so trained and likely some will be used to enforce a bigger call up along with Police, etc. I wouldn't underestimate them, becoming over confident was Russia's initial mistake and Ukraine need to ensure it doesn't become theirs. Ukraine was able to manipulate a lucky break around Kharkiv but along the rest of the front they are hard pressed against heavy numbers already. Ukraine will have lost a lot of their professional army also and will training is taking place now is the time it really needs to dig deep, way deep and call up as many men as it can to the front to see off the massive army Russia is now forming. 300,000 troops in itself is not a trifle so I wouldn't underestimate them, then they will likely be added too by CSTO maybe another 200,000, then possibly another call up in Russia calling forth probably at least 500,000 or more. Odds are we are probably talking an Army of around 1 million men headed to Ukraine before the year is out, probably within the next month or so. 1 Million troops is going to be very hard for the Ukrainians to hold off, they'll be needing to up their troop numbers significantly also. Failing to do so will mean that they are overwhelmed by force of numbers. HIMARS are really limited to specific high value targets, sure some missiles can be sent in but Ukraine can't afford to use many of these missiles up like that as their expensive and limited and can only take out so many troops at any one time.
Historically Russia has focused on using force of numbers to win in conflicts. Here it has become the fallback strategy but it's a significant threat that Ukraine needs to take seriously. It can't afford to think that how it has been winning to date will still work against a massive army perhaps as much as ten times the size it is currently facing. If it does I fear that come Winter Ukraine may unfortunately not be doing so well and will be desperately trying to call up troops as it's lines crack under the pressure of massive numbers of troops storming in and hitting them. Now is the time Ukraine needs to act before it is too late!
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Here's a couple of comments from Russian Telegram,regarding the 300,000 new recruits.
"The first wave,who arrived in Khabarovsk, are flying back to Yakutsk.Many are unfit due to health and age.Those who stay are taken to the military unit.
In Khabarovsk, they are shocked that Yakutia is sending everyone indiscriminately."
"The military prosecutor's office is carrying checks in some regions against individuals involved in mobilisation,with subsequent prosecution.To get the numbers ,they recruited blind,deaf,and even those who did not serve,and in addition the old ones ".
Nope i'm not hearing about any new elite stormtroopers itching to get at the Ukrainian forces :rolleyes:
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How much has mobilization added to russian economy, those local centers in poor provinces are getting some decent bribes,can you imagine in st peye amd mosciw 8f they ever start there?
Its every russian recruiting officers dream come true
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Russia has an equivalent to Article 5 with CSTO members. Attacking 'liberated' territories post-referenda may lead to Russia requesting support from CSTO members. Lukashenko 'cannot' say no, the Kremlin backed him during the last (disputed) presidential elections; the Belarus army would likely mobilize. Kazakhstan 'cannot' say no as the Russian Federation supported it earlier this year with an attempted coup.
If the Russian Federation declares war on Ukraine - how will it repel an additional 300,000 mobilized troops plus the Belarus army? (Shoigu intimated that Russia can mobilize 25 million if necessary.)
The more things escalate, the more people will die. Sadly there is no hope of a diplomatic resolution on the horizon, though at least with the prisoner swap parties are still communicating.
With most oblasts not fully held, and 15% turn out rate for voting, armed guards walking with the electorial people to flats, its a total shame and everyone knows it.
Russia invaded, russia is now mobilizing,so who is esacalting? The defenders ,defending more strongly ?
As far as CSTO,
Kadyrov already stated he wont do it,he has met his quota.
The other members like to run their lips,at the west ,but unlikely to wsnt yo deal with public push back of avtially mobilizing
Because they are basically unfriendly to the usa, than they are actual allies of russia.
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I've just seen a selfie video from the Kavalerovsky enlistment office..it's one of the funniest things i've ever seen..pure comedy gold.
The seriously unimpressed Russian guy is saying "Here's i,we're going to the frontline.This is the state we're all going.All the guys are in this state." as he pans around to show old men and comatose drunks.
I've also now seen three videos of the equipment being supplied to the new recruits.....seriously rusty Kalashnikov's' ;D
"These are the assault rifles we're getting.
(Background) Wow .What are the pistols we're getting .F*cking hell.
This is f*cked.I'm in f*cking awe."..is the comments from one of the video's.
You can see by the way he's handling the rifle he's no novice...and this is the thanks he gets for previous military service.
I'm starting to feel sorry for these guys....i never thought i would for Russians...but they have no chance,many will be KIA on the first day,and they were conscripted,not volunteers.
They need to kill their commanding officer when they arrive at the front and immediately surrender to the Ukrainians.Maybe join the Freedom of Russia Legion and pay-back Putler for what he's doing to them.
I've also now seen that conscripts are receiving summons at 3 am and given three hours to pack.
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I've also now seen that conscripts are receiving summons at 3 am and given three hours to pack.
Not surprising. This why why the referendum is being conducted. By claiming the occupied areas as Russian territory the govt. can now legally deploy any and all conscripts in those territories and even into combat....
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Here's a couple of comments from Russian Telegram,regarding the 300,000 new recruits.
"The first wave,who arrived in Khabarovsk, are flying back to Yakutsk.Many are unfit due to health and age.Those who stay are taken to the military unit.
In Khabarovsk, they are shocked that Yakutia is sending everyone indiscriminately."
"The military prosecutor's office is carrying checks in some regions against individuals involved in mobilisation,with subsequent prosecution.To get the numbers ,they recruited blind,deaf,and even those who did not serve,and in addition the old ones ".
Nope i'm not hearing about any new elite stormtroopers itching to get at the Ukrainian forces :rolleyes:
I doubt it's about elite stormtroopers it's more about an en-masse mobilization to get the numbers up. Sure some will be too old/unfit for anything, some will only be good to train others or work in support operations. I pretty much expect that there will be another mobilization announced after the annexation when Ukrainian forces continue to push you in. Putler will declare it an act of war and declare war himself enabling him to conscript a lot of men, these will be untrained men, young men, the unemployed (possibly as a result of the effect on Russia's economy) and possibly a whole age range call up with possible get outs or not. They'll then give those guys rudimentary training shove whatever weapon they can find probably Kalashnikov's into their hands and shove them to the front. Odds are Russia will buy any extra small arms from China or North Korea it needs. Again it's not really about 'quality' of forces we're talking here but 'quantity'. If you outnumber the enemy by 10-1 that means you can have ten men charging at each Ukrainian soldier. Odds are it's going to be difficult for that Ukrainian soldiers to kill all 8,9 or 10 of them before they get to him. Then of course there may be chemical weapons or WMD's of all sorts used before Russian forces go it to mop up.
I would like to believe it's going to end up a pathetic farce as it may at the moment look but I just think that Ukraine shouldn't underestimate a farcical looking enemy in case it suddenly turns out otherwise.
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I agree with this, Russia is manipulating the situation via the fake Referendums to try and get more forces to the front. It knows it needs way more troops than the initial invasion force it used to overcome Ukraine's forces. I think you're right that Belarus probably won't try to avoid getting dragged in if it sees that Moscow is throwing a lot more troops into the battle and thinks its own input will likely sway matters there. If Belarus attacks from the north then they can strike down towards Lviv. That's a whole new front that Ukraine will have to turn and protect against.
Ukraine has already lost a lot of troops in this war as well as Russia. Ukraine likely has reserves it can call up but aside fro m troop training in the west these will likely be largely untrained and inexperienced troops who will likely need at least quick rudimentary training and mixing in with more experienced troops. Possibly may be as many as 100,000 or so before they've got to turn to the population at large and constript into the army all those it had not, those who already had jobs elsewhere, the less willing to fight, etc. Questions are always abound of whether enough guns exist, rudimentary training availability in such circumstances. Odds are they will be just given a gun and dumped into a trench or similar to try to hold the ground, unfortunately becoming cannon fodder by default in such circumstances. If I was Ukraine, if they haven't already I would mobilize such troops now and get whatever rudimentary training and guns in while they can. They probably won't have much time before the 300,000 arrive and again I think Putler will call up more men in addition to the 300,000 once he annexes Ukrainian territory and Ukraine counterattacks into it. In addition to any CSTO forces he will likely declare it war and hence be able to call up more men in Russia which he will likely do.
The worst thing Ukraine can do at the moment is become complacent over its victories to date. Odds are it is on the verge of facing a massive Russian Army being formed and it needs to get all the men it can to the front to avoid being overwhelmed by force if numbers alone. This may indeed be the most deadly phase of the conflict so far. The west will have to ensure that Ukraine has the small arms it's needs to counter as well as whatever chemical warfare measures are possible. Underestimating Russia at this juncture I feel is both likely and of course fatal to Ukraine.
A few weeks ago a high up British warrant officer in the British Army told troops go see loved ones, priests, etc and prepare to go to war (in Ukraine). It sounded like troops may be in the process of mobilizing to be sent out to Ukraine to fight. That I found an unusual prospect as generally this has been a proxy war with denials issued early on by western nations/NATO that they would be sending troops. However likely they may have had worked out early on from now how Putler would likely play matters and might now be ready to send troops knowing that Ukraine alone might be hard pressed to fend off a massive Russian/CSTO army by itself. The west knows that neither itself nor Russia will use nukes on each other so it's largely down to a ground warfare conflict and it could likely become a free for all for whoever wanting to take part doing so. I think in the next few days & weeks we will likely see this all slotting into place. I as ever am focusing strategically on the dating aspect of this all ;D
The bolded bit tells all one needs to know regarding your knowledge of matters military.
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The orcs have now started selling their military equipment to Ukrainian forces...
Russian soldiers sold several armoured vehicles to the Ukrainian Army in Vyskopillya area.
The exchange happened in early September without incident.
This comes from the head of the Mykolaiv administration.
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The bolded bit tells all one needs to know regarding your knowledge of matters military.
I know warrant officer's are not particularly high up the pecking order but among warrant officer's he was highly positioned and respected. That he went to pass such info onto the soldiers around him likely suggests that there may be something to it.
Who knows maybe Russia'a army is as busted as it currently looks. That would indeed be an interesting situation but I'm not totally convinced that we've seen the whole deal here. I think that potentially Putler may try to win this war on a numbers basis and/or whatever else he can find to use that might grant him victory. There's no backing out for him as if he tries that he knows he is finished anyway so he'll likely push it with all that he can.
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Horrendous day for the Russian Air Force in the last 24 hours.
SU-25,Two SU-30,SU-34 all shot down in Ukraine.
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Russia has an equivalent to Article 5 with CSTO members. Attacking 'liberated' territories post-referenda may lead to Russia requesting support from CSTO members.
Fearmongering BS. Russia isn't going to nuke Ukraine or demand other countries enter the war over the sham referendums or attacks on illegally annexed territories. Quit trying to go down that rabbithole. It ain't gonna happen.
Are you forgetting that Russia held sham referendums and illegally annexed Crimea? There's been attacks on Crimea during this war.
No nukes, no mobilizing other countries, etc.
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Ukraine now has NASAMS. ;D
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People dying in NATO from a Russian nuclear strike on Ukraine would depend on where the strike is and the prevailing winds at the time.
Kiev is 431 miles/693km from Poland as the radiation blows.
How long will it take the radiation to kill them? 50 years?
Look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was only people within a few miles of ground zero who died.
400 miles from ground zero? You're pretty safe.
But if Putin uses a nuke, he's not going to be dropping Tsar Bomba on Kyiv. If Russia was going to use a nuke in Ukraine, it would probably be a high altitude EMP nuke to wipe out electronics. No deaths. No radiation.
Personally, I don't think knocking out US satellites over Ukraine would be considered an Article 5 attack on a Nato country. The citizens don't have the stomach to go to war over a few satellites going down.
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While an emp is more likely , whats the odds russia will risk what coulds be confused at time of launch or detonation?
Huge risk.
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I think you're both grasping at straws. It's not radiation drift clouds or an EMP to be concerned about. If Putin launches an nuclear attack you can rest assure it's going to be a radiation blast at a population center for maximum effect. My guess would be London. We should all be worried that such an attack can easily happen and be attributed to Putin. Once the first one is triggered, no matter who does it likely many more will follow coming from places not even involved in the Ukraine conflict.
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I've been thinking for quite some time that Russia is as likely to fire a nuke at a destination other than Ukraine.
I didn't post my thoughts as i didn't want to be thought of as an alarmist.
It could be London or it could be where he perceives the biggest threat to his ambitions is,and the biggest source of Ukrainian opposition to him...the USA.
Hitting London would still leave Russia open to huge retaliation from the USA.Hitting the USA in the right places would crush the opposition in his mind i suspect.
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I read . . . don't know where, but probably Wall Street Journal . . . that USA has 2 nuclear subs in Atlantic and 2 nuclear subs in Pacific with enough nuclear bombs to destroy every major Russian city.
I am sure the ruskies know this also.
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US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said on Sunday that the US would respond decisively to any Russian use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine,and that it had spelled out to Moscow the "catastrophic consequences"it would face.
"If Russia crosses this line ,there will be catastrophic consequences for Russia.The United States will respond decisively ".
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Reports ( there is gruesome video on Telegram ) of a failed orc counter offensive at Kupyansk.
Reports are fresh conscripts ( presumably from the 300,000 ),no body armour,lightly armed,charged Ukrainian lines head-on,no tactics,it was a massacre.
I have seen video of one orc survivor...young guy lying on his back and crying his eyes out...blubbing something in orcishness.
I doubt the Stalingrad tactics will work for the orcs in Ukraine..especially when the temperatures hit -20 to -30 there in the winter,as i'm not seeing them being supplied with winter clothing.
If NATO draws this out i foresee millions of orcs being massacred in UKraine...maybe that's the plan...to make them extinct.
A shortage of working-age men will leave Russian industry on it's knees.
Looks like there will be a huge shortage of Russian men for you to compete against, if you fancy your chances in Russia, when this war eventually ends Trench.
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A shortage of working-age men will leave Russian industry on it's knees.
What industry? lol
Actually, Russia does have some industry...and almost all of it is in Kaliningrad.
From what I can tell, it appears that Russia is getting conscripts from remote, impoverished rural areas. These aren't the guys who would have worked in industry anyways.
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What industry? lol
Actually, Russia does have some industry...and almost all of it is in Kaliningrad.
From what I can tell, it appears that Russia is getting conscripts from remote, impoverished rural areas. These aren't the guys who would have worked in industry anyways.
I have a female contact in St Petersburg.
She has male friends who've been receiving mobilisation summons at their places of work.
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I read . . . don't know where, but probably Wall Street Journal . . . that USA has 2 nuclear subs in Atlantic and 2 nuclear subs in Pacific with enough nuclear bombs to destroy every major Russian city.
I am sure the ruskies know this also.
I served 20yrs in the Navy. All of them in the Trident SSBN service. One Trident sub can carry 24 missiles with each missile with the capacity to hold 7 MIRVs. One Trident sub alone (mind you that there are at least 15 Tridents in service) can level pretty much all major Russian cities. Any kind of Nuclear attack by anyone side is a no win situation for all. Putin knows this and so do his generals. There are a lot of different people to go through before a nuke is launched. Putin is desperate and bluffing because this invasion will be his undoing.....
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Fearmongering BS. Russia isn't going to nuke Ukraine or demand other countries enter the war over the sham referendums or attacks on illegally annexed territories. Quit trying to go down that rabbithole. It ain't gonna happen.
Are you forgetting that Russia held sham referendums and illegally annexed Crimea? There's been attacks on Crimea during this war.
No nukes, no mobilizing other countries, etc.
I said nothing of nukes in my last post.
What I stated is CSTO members can call upon other members for military support. Kazakhstan did so in January and Russia obliged. I'm not sure if Armenia have made a formal request with the current conflict there.
If Russia considers newly acquired territories as part of the Russian Federation, it doesn't matter what others believe or how legitimate (or otherwise) the referenda. It becomes Russia under the CSTO agreements. Attacking these territories may pull Belarus into the conflict.
Then what?
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If Russia considers newly acquired territories as part of the Russian Federation, it doesn't matter what others believe or how legitimate (or otherwise) the referenda. It becomes Russia under the CSTO agreements. Attacking these territories may pull Belarus into the conflict.
Then what?
Have all the CSTO countries officially recognized Crimea or other areas in UA claimed by Russia as belonging to Russia?
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Kazakhstan has said it will refuse to accept the referendum results in Ukraine.
Serbia has said the same.
Even it's allies don't trust Russia,and know how Putler and his Kremlin lie.
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I served 20yrs in the Navy. All of them in the Trident SSBN service. One Trident sub can carry 24 missiles with each missile with the capacity to hold 7 MIRVs. One Trident sub alone (mind you that there are at least 15 Tridents in service) can level pretty much all major Russian cities. Any kind of Nuclear attack by anyone side is a no win situation for all. Putin knows this and so do his generals. There are a lot of different people to go through before a nuke is launched. Putin is desperate and bluffing because this invasion will be his undoing.....
Let's hope the people who give the order to launch nukes in Russia have people they care about and don't want them being nuked in response.
The problem is Russians are generally a cold people and Putler may well have put the most cold-hearted among them in charge of the nuke orders.
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Mobilised Russians are calling the Ukrainian hotline to find out about surrendering,and the numbers are increasing.
Ukraine MOD.
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Newly mobilised orcs are being sent to the front with no training....at all.
A Russian has done a selfie telling how he's being sent to Kherson to join the 1st Tank Regiment and the new recruits have officially been told there will be no training.
Russia must be in a truly desperate state.
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Have all the CSTO countries officially recognized Crimea or other areas in UA claimed by Russia as belonging to Russia?
Kazakhstan will ensure the care and safety of Russians fleeing a "hopeless situation," the president of the Central Asian country said on Tuesday, as Russian men fled the Ukraine military call-up.
"Recently we've had many people from Russia coming here," Kassym-Jomart Tokayev was quoted as saying by his press service.
"Most of them are forced to leave because of the hopeless situation. We must take care of them and ensure their safety," he added.
"This is a political and humanitarian issue," he said.
The Kazakh leader also condemned Moscow's invasion of Ukraine and called for respect of territorial integrity, as Russia held annexation referendums in four Ukrainian regions.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/27/ukraine-war-as-its-happening-a76553
Kazakhstan is a CSTO country or? Seems they might not consider any new territories as part of Russia.
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It becomes Russia under the CSTO agreements. Attacking these territories may pull Belarus into the conflict.
Then what?
Belarus has at best 35k effective strength. None of those soldiers will fight for Putin or Lukashenko for that matter. If Belarus gets involved, it will mean the end of Luka's regime as well which is currently not too far off once Putin goes down.
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Belarus has at best 35k effective strength. None of those soldiers will fight for Putin or Lukashenko for that matter.
What is the logic/proof of your concept ?
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Well, Belarus at one point was on the verge of joining the Russian attack early in the war. their total armed forces strength is at most 60k (army and air force). Many of the Belarussian troops refused to fight. Many officers were threatening to resign. One unit even crossed the border and joined the Ukrainian army to fight the Russians. All of this is old news. Almost all of Belarus hates Lukashenko. The only reason he remains in power is because Putin sent in his OMON troops to quell the protests after the elections.
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Those traitors in the Donbass and Kherson! They've only just voted to join Russia!!! Believe me I was completely beside myself when the news came in, how could they do this!
Apparently also Beel should leave Russia as soon as poss so his country says if he hasn't managed to already, that or be pressed into the Russian Army perhaps, hmmnn... :-\
http://amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/sep/28/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-west-rejects-referendum-results-nord-stream-sabotage-denounced
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Apparently also Beel should leave Russia as soon as poss so his country says if he hasn't managed to already, that or be pressed into the Russian Army perhaps, hmmnn... :-\
Russia isn't desperate enough to want old men like me for their army.
They have multi millions of men who are of military age, who are citizens,
that they could legally draft who are also native Russian speakers.
Fighting in wars is for the young. I am back in Texas and beyond the reach
of Russian draft boards.
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Russia isn't desperate enough to want old men like me for their army.
You think :ROFL:
Apparently a lot of the 300,000 men they are calling up are old men, compared to them like an AFA tour bus you'd likely be one of the younger ones, lol.
Anyway good to hear you're safe & sound out of Russia Bill, I wouldn't want to be there right now as it looks like the sh*t could be hitting the fan in many a way.
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After the recent revolts in Dagestan its rumored that unofficially* mobilization has ceased.
Funny, if the other ethnic regions of russia that have been over represented in causulties in this conflict see that the squeaky wheel.gets the grease what will occur?
Chechnya's Kadyrov says he wint mobilize as he has sent enough.
Kazakhstan is officially announced that it is welcoming russian men that fled Russia...
So Russia has now put up mobilization centers at the border crossings.
For those that dont read cyrillic the sign is a play in words that says:
no to mobilization , with the b* crossed thru and replaced it says, no to gravezation.
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http://twitter.com/R82938886/status/1575149819454279681?t=RwxfuwPSbpHBncOrfDwAdQ&s=19
The fake subtitles here are like the best Downfall parodies.
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The town of Lyman,Donetsk region was liberated from the orcs today.
This was a very important logistical hub for the orcs.
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Over 30.kilometers advance and liberation of many villages in.khersin oblast .
The AFU continues to make rapid progress,over.terrian it took russian months to occupy.
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There are good gains in the North, Lyman seems to indicate that the Russian troops there are perhaps not well trained, equipped and/or broken morale. Many fled as fast as they can dropping their stuff as they went. Pushing home there is probably the thing to do as unless Russia can quickly reinforce with better resources then Ukraine can keep taking ground quickly if the same smashed forces.
Ukraine broken through the lines north of Kherson but are still a very long way from the city, about 70 miles so they are unlikely to reach Kherson anytime soon. Still it shows that the HIMARS are making a real difference by taking out Russia's artillery advantage thereby weakening Russian forces considerably.
The US are going to supply some more advanced weaponry which I think is the right thing to do. Russian forces seem weak at the moment so hitting them harder now could end the conflict sooner and prevent a long drawn out conflict - that will be better for Ukraine and the West in general. It will probably be getting colder once we get to November so will have to see how things go. Potentially though with the HIMARS weakening Russia considerably one big push to an enemy with a poor morale may make the whole lot break and run.
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The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine today.
"The enemy must be destroyed here and now...and we can do that "
I'm sure someone in Ukraine is reading my posts on here and passing them on. >:D
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Regarding previous comments on here about the USA public's support for Ukraine in the war against the orcs.
Reuters poll shows 73% of American citizens believe that the USA must continue supporting Ukraine despite Russian threats to use Nuclear weapons.
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Reuters poll shows 73% of American citizens believe that the USA must continue supporting Ukraine despite Russian threats to use Nuclear weapons.
Good news, at this point.
However the percent will probably decrease as time goes on.
Just this morning, two blue collar workers were out working on extending a water line.
I asked if they knew anything about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
One guy said he had heard nothing about such an event. Upon questioning, he said he didn't read newspapers, didn't listen to news on radio or TV and never surfed the internet.
The other guy said he had heard something about it, but hoped USA didn't get involved because it was none of our concern.
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In Europe the percent supporting is probably much less than 73%, and will decrease substantially as winter sets in.
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Pootin, is a cagey player, but a sly one...
he has already decided that the West will not go "all the way" to save Ukraine
that gives him an advantage in the game, if he decides to go "all in" and attack with WMDs
he knows the west will not respond at the same level
again, an advantage
the West's strategy is to support Ukraine at minimal costs
weapon costs are a boon to the US economy as factories are working extra shifts to keep up with demand, so our economy doesn't face any real hardships for shipping billions of $ worth of weapons to Ukrainia
and each dollar we spend on weapons probably does $50 worth of damage to Russia, an economy 1/10 the size of the US's
considering the annual cost of our military budget, year-after-year, and consider that a fraction of that is for "dealing with Russia" then you realize what a "tremendous opportunity" this has been for the US to seriously degrade one of the two "near peer" militaries" in the world...
a huge cost-benefit for the US for supporting Ukraine
provinding that the war doesn't ecalate!!!
so Pootin's goal will now be to escalate and "up the ante" of the bet
so besides WMDs there will be a second round of mobilization with the goal of militarizing all of Russia, to make ANY signs of protest immediately disappear
meanwhile Russia will have massive purges and backstabbing, no one will be safe
more Russians will fall out of windows or commit suicide
and I just sit here in the Gulf of Mexico biding my time
until I make my triumphant return to Moscow with my "crew"
PS
the Ukrainian attack on the airbase at Saki, was NOT a missile attack!!!
it was an attack by Ukrainian Special forces
whose leader is called the "Shaman"
and that's all I can say about that...
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The US has indeed tons of weapons alone in their army just sitting around that it doesn't really need. The number of HIMARS alone sent to Ukraine are small compared to what they have, let alone the huge stockpiles of other advanced weaponry it holds. In addition the US military holds a vast amount of nuclear warheads numbering in the many thousands, far more than it actually needs and could obliterate Russia & China many times over.
So it 'could' give a hundred or so Nuclear warheads to Ukraine and it wouldn't even notice it. That would stop Putler in his tracks as he would know that any WMD attack could result in a Nuke being fired off by Ukraine in kind perhaps at an out the way large military facility to begin with as a warning shot. Putler would also know that if he were to get too far into invading Ukraine again Ukraine could fire off Nuke(s). Russia has breached the Budapest Memorandum by invading Ukraine and annexing its territory that much is clear so that agreement and the Nuclear non-proliferation that goes with it is essentially null and void. So Ukraine by my reasoning is entitled to get nukes back. That off course would finish this conflict and see Russian forces scuttling back across the Ukrainian border. The US giving Ukraine loads of its advanced weaponry that is currently just sat around with nowhere to go would obliterate Russia's army quickly our of Ukraine. The US has no real need for much of its military equipment as no-one is going to attack the US with its massive nuclear capability. The stuff is only really for occasional exploits abroad and to give it's pals in the arms industry money. Over time all weaponry gets replaced by more advanced weaponry anyway.
So the US could easily hand Ukraine a decisive victory one way or another but chooses not to. In that respect I have to agree with Krim that a lot of it seems to be more about big profits for the Arms industry. It knows that if it gives Ukraine enough weaponry to give Russia a hard time that Russia will keep pouring in troops to avoid it getting kicked out of Ukraine altogether. The makes Russia weak the more it does that and Arms merchants rich. Russia's army is basically too clapped out to be a match for western weaponry not unless it field huge numbers of men in the field to overwhelm.
Personally I think the 300,000 men or any part of that which they manage to bring to the field is probably more about keeping in the game for the meantime. Odds are it's also about having a standing army with which to conscript larger amounts of Russian men when the time comes and that may come soon. Other than WMD's massively outnumbering the Ukrainian forces is the only possible way Russia is likely to be able to win in Ukraine now. It's how the Soviet Union won against Nazi Germany by sheer weight of numbers alone.
Whether Putler will use WMD's I am not so sure. Ukraine's problem there is that it has as yet nothing on that scale it can fire back so they are in an inferior position on that one. They can't however back down as Putler is a bully and will just take more and more over time so they essentially have to just hope he doesn't and if he does suffer whatever is sent in their direction. Partly it all depends on what WMD's will be used, possibly not nuclear but at least somewhat large scale destructive weapons nonetheless, hyper-thermal barbic missiles, etc. Putler probably won't use nukes unless he does a small one Hiroshima/Nagasaki style to strike fear into Ukraine and get them to capitulate. But throughout Ukraine I don't think he would want long term radioactive unusable territory. Use of WMD's is really more uncertain territory but Putler has shown how ruthless he can be and at the age of 70 probably won't care as his time in this Earth is limited anyway. That unfortunately is not great reading for Ukraine but it can only carry on fighting and hope it doesn't happen and if it does push on anyway as it's all there is left to do.
I don't think Putler will declare war on the west/NATO or fire Nukes in our direction as he knows he'll just get nukes fired back so is on an only lose scenario on that one. I myself though am making my nuclear fallout preparations just in case ;)
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According to an "FSB source ",the orc losses in Ukraine now stand at 90,000.
This includes troops who were killed,went missing,died from wounds,or were disabled and cannot return to military service.
It does not include Wagner,DNR,LNR,Chechen troops...so the real figure will be much higher.
Obviously i cannot verify these figures.
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So 30% of the energy capacity has been 'destroyed', the Ukrainian PM is asking people to reduce consumption by 25%. Ukraine's emergency services said that five regions - Lviv, Poltava, Sumy, Kharkiv and Ternopil were without power. Further internet and heating outages. (Ukrainian reporting)
Putin stated 22 of 29 targets were successfully hit earlier in the week, the remaining will be 'dealt with'.
According to Moby 2.0 'tis a flesh wound. This is catastrophic as winter is approaching.
Meanwhile the Kerch Bridge is operational, both road and rail. Will be repaired within 2-3 months. Apparently 80% of 'Ukrainian' forces near Lughansk are foreign mercenaries as the Ukrainian army has been decimated.
I recommend people stock up on food, particularly in Europe. Pat - I hope you filled up your car's fuel tank! Vive la révolution! Oh and interesting to see French intelligence view the USA as its greatest foreign threat...
Interesting times.
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I doubt Putin’s words of “success”.
30% was hit, not destroyed. L’viv’s power has already been restored.
The AFU is the prime fighting force in Luhansk.
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So 30% of the energy capacity has been 'destroyed', the Ukrainian PM is asking people to reduce consumption by 25%. Ukraine's emergency services said that five regions - Lviv, Poltava, Sumy, Kharkiv and Ternopil were without power. Further internet and heating outages. (Ukrainian reporting)
Putin stated 22 of 29 targets were successfully hit earlier in the week, the remaining will be 'dealt with'.
According to Moby 2.0 'tis a flesh wound. This is catastrophic as winter is approaching.
Meanwhile the Kerch Bridge is operational, both road and rail. Will be repaired within 2-3 months. Apparently 80% of 'Ukrainian' forces near Lughansk are foreign mercenaries as the Ukrainian army has been decimated.
I recommend people stock up on food, particularly in Europe. Pat - I hope you filled up your car's fuel tank! Vive la révolution! Oh and interesting to see French intelligence view the USA as its greatest foreign threat...
Interesting times.
Russia has allegedly launched more than half its kh 101/ kh 555 cruise missle, half its calibre models and 80% of its islander middle arsenals.
If* that's all they have, ukraine can easily withstand the rest. Then what?
Its that simple.
The power was back on in less than 24 hrs in most of those area and 48 hrs in all basically all.of them.
Puti tossed another 700 million down the drain. But that's chicken feed to a man that stole multi billions from.his country.
If ** kharkiv and luhansk oblasts are being liberated by a battalion or two of foreign volunteers, with little to no air support a mere 100 kilometers from.russian airspace where Russia should be absolutely lighting them.up with air sorties,
then Russia might as well pack up now.
Have you any military experience at all?
Where has russia gained ground in the last 45 days? (Since command posts and ammo depots were methodically being located by superior Intel, and wiped out by precision weapons )
1 or 2 kilometers in bakmut where they have concentrated thier efforts for 2 or 3 months?
While losing net ground in every single contested oblast ,and not by a few kilometers ,by big hunks
Yet you are posting the sky is falling and winter is coming for Ukraine.
If this wasn't a serious matter I would be friking laughing.
Russia was getting its arse handed to them, so they were forced to.mobilize, you do get this very basic concept i hope?
If you are succeeding in your goals in Ukraine, and ukrainians have such heavy losses,then you don't need to.mobilize hundreds of thousands of new troops and make public speeches about the reasons needed.
Since you have such great info hows that new 3rd army doing?
Why was it needed?
Is it combat effective after 30 days of its first real deployment ?
Let me know.
Ukraine will have a tough winter, mostly from.Russia tossing that.amount of new meat in the grinder.
But if 3rd army was any indication it takes about 2.6 weeks to be rendered ineffective and pulled back for replacements.
Winter will slow that and hinder russia more than Ukraine.
They have longer more vulnerable supply lines. They cant be.rotated out for any break, as often or as quickly.
Russia should get out.
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Meanwhile the Kerch Bridge is operational, both road and rail. Will be repaired within 2-3 months.
Repairs to the bridge between the annexed Crimean peninsula and southern Russia, which was damaged in an explosion last Saturday, are to be finished by July 2023, a document published on the Russian government’s website said.
http://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/10/14/Explosion-damaged-Crimea-bridge-to-be-repaired-by-July-2023-Report and several other news orgs reporting same.
That is likely a reasonable timeline to complete repairs unless something else happens till then.
In any case, it will negatively affect logistics to and from Crimea for some time to come. I work in the logistics field and estimate the capacity of the bridge is roughly 1/4 or less than what it was. Have to remember the remaining damaged lane for vehicles and the one rail line may be limited to lighter loads and will also have to be used for repair operations further limiting normal traffic. At some point, both will have to be closed completely for a time to facilitate repair. Ferry traffic is also impacted by re-routed priority goods.
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So 30% of the energy capacity has been 'destroyed', the Ukrainian PM is asking people to reduce consumption by 25%. Ukraine's emergency services said that five regions - Lviv, Poltava, Sumy, Kharkiv and Ternopil were without power. Further internet and heating outages. (Ukrainian reporting)
Putin stated 22 of 29 targets were successfully hit earlier in the week, the remaining will be 'dealt with'.
According to Moby 2.0 'tis a flesh wound. This is catastrophic as winter is approaching.
Meanwhile the Kerch Bridge is operational, both road and rail. Will be repaired within 2-3 months. Apparently 80% of 'Ukrainian' forces near Lughansk are foreign mercenaries as the Ukrainian army has been decimated.
I recommend people stock up on food, particularly in Europe. Pat - I hope you filled up your car's fuel tank! Vive la révolution! Oh and interesting to see French intelligence view the USA as its greatest foreign threat...
Interesting times.
Sorry to disappoint you again,but my Governmental source in Kiev informs me that the power was back on in Kiev within two hours of the energy capacity being "destroyed".....ho hum.
According to military analysts Russia has now lost 70% of it's precision missiles.
Maybe Putler will use the rest of his remaining precision missiles taking out the lights in Kiev for another two hours.
He's as daft as you so i wouldn't put it past him.
64,700 Russian orcs have now been eliminated in Ukraine,according to the Ukrainian MOD...no wonder Putler had to mobilize another 300,000 men.
Meanwhile another 10,000 Ukrainian troops have returned to Ukraine to kill Russian/pro-Russian orcs after completing their NATO training in the UK.
That's 20,000 now trained... and counting. >:D
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My impression is that Putler is making the same mistake as Hitler did with the Luftwaffe during WWII. He's hitting civilian targets in anger failing to realise that it's the biggest military and infrastructure targets are the ones to hit, that's what has the biggest impact on changing the fortunes of war. As it is he is wasting lots of his missiles on pointless targets. Fortunate that Ukraine can now take out many of these missiles out also. It generally means that Putler is carrying out his own disarmament and degrading his military's ability himself. Soon Russia will be too poor to rearm, will have a broken military and will likely be breaking apart as a result of it all.
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I doubt Putin’s words of “success”.
30% was hit, not destroyed. L’viv’s power has already been restored.
The AFU is the prime fighting force in Luhansk.
The Deputy Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, Kyrylo Tymoshenko, said that tomorrow a restriction on the supply of electricity will be introduced throughout Ukraine.
According to him, starting from 7:00 to 23:00, it will be necessary to minimize the use of electricity. Also, from tomorrow, the use of street lighting in Ukrainian cities will be limited.
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Russia hit many more stations since my last post. Nevertheless, the restrictions are for four hours at a time.
The purpose of hitting infrastructure was to break the will of Ukrainians. The effect has been the opposite of what Russia wanted.
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http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/23/7373163/
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rwd123 will be gnashing his teeth ;D
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Another terrible day for the losing orc military in Ukraine today ;D
40 Chechens are reported killed by a strike on the school they were using as their base in Kherson.
The one place the orcs were making a slight advance in Ukraine was Bakhmut....until today.They were forced back 2km in the eastern suburb ..it had taken them 2 months of fighting to take this 2km,and they lost it in 48 hours.
Three more orc KA-52 attack Helicopters were shot down today also >:D
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This is an interesting look at life under occupation in Kherson.
http://youtu.be/QSaxduOxogU
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Another Ukrainian-Turkish-UN convoy of grain ships left Odesa this morning, breaking through Russia’s naval blockade of Ukraine for a second day in a row.
the Russian Black Sea Fleet is nowhere to be seen after the recent drone attack on Russian ships in Omega Bay in Crimea
Erdogan has called Putin’s bluff.
my wife's relatives in Crimea have been mobilized and are now in the war, they only mobilized those with past military experience, because there's no time to train them
military police entered each village in Crimea with a list of names, went door to door, rounded everyone up with no warning, and like that they were gone....
guys in their 40s, with kids, out of shape, and haven't been in the military in 20 years
are given garbage equipment, little food....
thye are given a special SIM card they put in their phones, only allowed to call immediate family, calls are monitored
meanwhile, Russian casualties are steeply mounting....
but Russians are well insulated from the TRUTH
if Alex Jones spoke Russian, he'd EASILY get a job on Russian TV
Disinformatse is the only informatse
control what the masses hear - and you control the masses
it's THAT freakin simple
even Rupublicans have figured it out...
masses = durrichki (fools) - and what doya do with fools? ya fool 'em!
horrosho? next question?
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It seems that the orcs are retreating from the city of Kherson.
Video's and photo's show : Soldiers at roadblocks are gone.
Russian flags have been taken down from government buildings.
Apparently Orc defensive positions north of the city have been abandoned.
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"Despite the fact that the enemy is trying to convince that he is leaving populated areas, and also that the effect of total evacuation is being created, we are monitoring the situation and see that this can be a cunning military maneuver..."
http://fakty.com.ua/ua/ukraine/20221103-u-hersoni-okupanty-gotuyut-provokacziyi-gumenyuk-pro-znyattya-prapora-rf-z-administracziyi/
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the battle of waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eaton
the war in Ukraine was won when the Russian wing of the republican party became the house majority after Nov 8 and cut-off all US funding to Ukraine (which is 90% of Ukraine's aid)
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the battle of waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eaton
the war in Ukraine was won when the Russian wing of the republican party became the house majority after Nov 8 and cut-off all US funding to Ukraine (which is 90% of Ukraine's aid)
The war won't be won or lost in Ukraine..it's just the start.
Putler has openly said he plans to destroy democracy....
"This Ukraine crisis we're in right now,this is just the warmup "Navy adm.Charles A.Richard ,Commander of US Strategic Command "The big one is coming and it isn't going to be very long before we're going to get tested in ways we haven't been ..."
It does amuse me seeing people talking about finding a FSU wife still....they have no idea what's coming.
The Four Horsemen are saddling up.
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Following up a little on krimster’s post, this piece connects the dots.
http://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/02/magazine/russiagate-paul-manafort-ukraine-war.html
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Following up a little on krimster’s post, this piece connects the dots.
http://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/02/magazine/russiagate-paul-manafort-ukraine-war.html
Subscription needed.
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I could access without a subscription.
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Try this
http://archive.ph/YsH0Q (http://archive.ph/YsH0Q)
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Try this
http://archive.ph/YsH0Q (http://archive.ph/YsH0Q)
Thanks for that.
The article is much too long to hold my attention.
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the battle of waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eaton
the war in Ukraine was won when the Russian wing of the republican party became the house majority after Nov 8 and cut-off all US funding to Ukraine (which is 90% of Ukraine's aid)
I've been informed that the lend-lease act gave President Biden the power to supply Ukraine with military aid without additional authorization from the US Congress.
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Massive build-up of Ukrainian troops happening in Kherson region at staging points.
Meanwhile mutinies are occurring at an increasing rate among the orc troops,the latest coming from Kazan mobiks on Friday.
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after your post, I read the lend-lease bill!
technically, you are correct...
but...
read this
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/marjorie-taylor-greene-gop-wont-give-ukraine-another-penny-rcna55649
will they fight for Putin, the way they fought for Trump?
I guess we're gonna find out soon...
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She sounds like another full of hot air politician.
Clearly she doesn't understand how the lend-lease act works ,or is choosing to conveniently ignore the realities in her deceitful pursuit of power.
I notice there is no mention of the lend-lease in that article....i wonder why ? :rolleyes:
Actually,there are plenty of anti-Russian hawks in the Republican party who want to put a lot more pressure on Putler than he's getting now.
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The elite orc corps of the Marines of the 155th Brigade are getting smashed at Pavlovka.
They've appealed to the orc higher-ups in the Russian MOD to save them as their losses are so huge.
Sladkov reports painful losses.and the appeal of the Marines from the 155th to the leadership of the MOD."Blood is pouring and pouring ".
Pro-Russian propogandists are reporting "extremely depressing news " about the situation of the 155th Brigade.
Huge shock waves going through Russia over this massacre.
Khodakovsky,Commander of the DPR pro-Russian "Vostok" Battalion, has come out and said he does not believe in the success of the military operation anymore.
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From Professor Timothy Snyder.
http://snyder.substack.com/p/russias-genocide-handbook?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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Putin is winning his anti-democracy campaign in the USofA
If the GOP win, he wins.
If he wins, Ukraine loses.
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Putin is winning his anti-democracy campaign in the USofA
If the GOP win, he wins.
If he wins, Ukraine loses.
The lend-lease will be in operation until the end of Biden's term as President....two years i believe ?
There is absolutely no concern among my USA contacts that the military support for Ukraine will dry up whilst Biden is President,regardless of who wins the mid-term elections.
I'm hearing today that Ukraine has established the production of 122mm and 152mm Artillery shells....something the orcs are now having to beg North Korea for,among other things, because they're running out.
More good news for Ukraine today and bad news for the orcs.....NASAMS and Aspide air defence systems arrived in Ukraine.
Mass surrenders of orc mobiks around Svatove today.
There is a real fear, Russian Telegram Channels are reporting from the front, among the orcs that Ukraine is about to launch an offensive to take Belgorod...i can't see it happening myself but anything is possible.
As a little aside..not one HIMARS being used by Ukraine has been hit by the orcs.
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The elite orc corps of the Marines of the 155th Brigade are getting smashed at Pavlovka.
They've appealed to the orc higher-ups in the Russian MOD to save them as their losses are so huge.
Sladkov reports painful losses.and the appeal of the Marines from the 155th to the leadership of the MOD."Blood is pouring and pouring ".
Pro-Russian propogandists are reporting "extremely depressing news " about the situation of the 155th Brigade.
Huge shock waves going through Russia over this massacre.
Khodakovsky,Commander of the DPR pro-Russian "Vostok" Battalion, has come out and said he does not believe in the success of the military operation anymore.
Further to this news the remnants of the 155th Marine Brigade released a video today,showing three of them appealing for people at home to calm down as they're not done (yet).
They report that despite their losses they're holding the line ( impressive for an assault force lol ).
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-ukraine-skeptics-poised-gain-congress-lawmakers-look-lock-billions-rcna53167
http://www.axios.com/2022/10/18/republicans-ukraine-aid-mccarthy
http://www.cnn.com/2022/10/22/politics/republican-ukraine-support-what-matters
http://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-republicans-aim-ukraine-aid-unlikely-block-it-2022-10-21/
the argument "america first" is pure gaslighting
democrats offered to pay for everything from seized oligarch assets
(something I proposed)
WHAT? seizing oligarch's assets? NYET, er NO!!!
how will they pay us?
meanwhile Kentucky put 20 million USD from a teacher's pension fund into Sber Bank...
Kentucky is home to Oleg Deripaska's Aluminum plant
the guy who was unsanctioned by Trump and was involved in Russian election interference in 2016
PS
it looks like Trump will announce his run for President in the next few days, and probably declare that he's already won the "election"
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I think there is a reasonable argument that direct aid to Ukraine could be restricted to weapons, ammunition ,winter clothing,medical supplies etc only...i.e tangible things...rather than some of the financial aid that nobody can be sure is being used for it's intended purpose.
I do think aid to Ukraine from the USA will be reduced if the Republicans gain enough seats in the mid-term elections..probably just the lend-lease without the extra aid being currently sent.
This is Ukraine after all..one needs to be careful with financial aid over there.
A Ukrainian businessman in the Zaporizhzhia region has just been arrested with his foreman for supplying Ukrainian aircraft engines to Russia during this war,from his factory.
A Ukrainian farmer has also just been arrested for Supplying Russians with grain and fertilizer from a non-occupied region.
So corruption and pro-Russian collaboration is still very much going on there.
I donate some money to UkraineAidOps,run by a guy from Estonia who does the deliveries in Ukraine to the front himself,which is now a registered charity in the USA and Ukraine,set up this year for getting supplies directly to the troops in the field.
Videos are shown with the charity volunteers handing over body armour,drones,night vision equipment,SUV's etc to Ukrainian troops at the front.
It's pretty moving seeing some of the Ukrainian troops clearly moved by the help they're getting when they receive it.
If you don't want to send cash you can buy needed items like winter clothing through Amazon and donate it to be delivered to the Ukrainian troops.
Personally i send smallish amounts through Paypal,as and when i can afford it...as things are getting tight economically in the UK.We've just been informed we're starting a two year recession now.
Their latest appeal is to raise $150k for medical aid for the troops,to cut the number of deaths in the field for the Ukrainian troops....almost $80k has been raised so far.
I also donate equally smallish amounts to a lady in Poland and other people in Ukraine ,some helping the troops whilst others are helping civilians in desperate need of supplies....all verified by videos of troops/groups of civilians actually receiving what i've donated toward.
So i spread my help around.
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There is video of 21 orcs who surrendered on Monday in the Swativ direction of the Luhansk region.
The really interesting thing about this is that they were all mobiks from Moscow and the Moscow region.
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Interesting article on a Marshall Plan for Ukraine.
http://tinyurl.com/2ne9z7pb
In other news, Russia claims to be abandoning Kherson. However, the AFU is wary.
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Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu on Wednesday ordered his troops to withdraw from the occupied Ukrainian city of Kherson and take up defensive lines on the opposite bank of the River Dnipro.
The announcement marked one of Russia's most significant retreats and a potential turning point in the war, now nearing the end of its ninth month.
In televised comments, General Sergei Surovikin, in overall command of the war, reported to Shoigu that it was no longer possible to keep Kherson city supplied.
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-orders-pullout-west-bank-dnipro-kherson-2022-11-09/
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Interesting article on a Marshall Plan for Ukraine.
http://tinyurl.com/2ne9z7pb
In other news, Russia claims to be abandoning Kherson. However, the AFU is wary.
Yes, it is probably a Trojan Horse inverted.
i.e. Lure the enemy into your camp.
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I'd love to listen to the Ukrainian Hydrologists analysis of what releasing 18 cu kilometers of water from Russia blowing the Kakhovskaya dam will do...
i've been there a couple of times, it's a very flat area, my guess is thousands of sq km flooded...
people should GTF out NOW!!!
if I were Ukrainians I'd bypass Kherson, Russians got every building zeroed in and mined
and they're banking their artillery on the other shore of the river waiting....
don't do a stalingrad and fight in the city
go round
if, Ukraine were to cut access to the NCC (Northern Crimean Canal) (red line in map)
there goes about 90% of Crimea's water
this year was dryest year in Crimea's history
all major rivers completely dried up, resovoirs at 20% of capacity
ground water already pumped out
there is just one gas pipeline from Russia to Crimea operating now,
it's completely unproteded, above ground, a small bomb is all you'd need
to cut off Crimea's gas, which also fuels it's 3 power plants
oh, and one more bomb to the bridge...
do these things and Crimea is totally focked, isolated and cut-off
they call this "leverage"
PS, next month Iran will be shipping ballistic missiles to Russia, they will be arriving at Simpheropol airport on big air transports
gazillions of "hidey holes" around the airport, perfect for a couple of teams of manpads
or home made anti-air drones (he said, knowingly)
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When the orcs bank their artillery on the other shore of the river,won't that leave them as sitting ducks for the Ukrainian HIMARS ?
The HIMARS greatly outrange any artillery the orcs have.
The 20 HIMARS the Ukrainians have,plus their 155mm artillery can create carnage amongst the orcs banked artillery with counterfire.
I also think Ukrainian troops should go round the city of Kherson,because if they go in it will give the orcs the excuse to do another Mariupol and level the city.
Photographs show that the orcs are now digging trenches in northern Crimea,and laid dragons teeth defences against Tanks outside Belgorod.
Putler's SMO has backfired spectacularly on him as the orcs are now in full defence mode.Not what he intended i'm sure. :popcorn:
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Personally i send smallish amounts through Paypal,as and when i can afford it...as things are getting tight economically in the UK.
Trench, is that you?
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Trench, is that you?
What a Brain-dead comment.
I suggest you do some research about the problems people have in the UK right now.
Out of a population of 67.3 million people,14.5 million of them are living in poverty in the UK....that's 21.5 %.
Food bank usage is constantly rising here,and that includes for people who are working.
The Bank of England has just announced we're starting a two year recession,so the situation is going to get a lot worse for an increasing number of people.
Energy costs are rising,interest rates are rising and food prices are rising.
Charity begins at home,so i have people to help here in the UK first
I suggest you concentrate on your Bee keeping,whilst sending girls in Ukraine your cheap-ass food parcels,instead of trying to belittle people you know nothing about.
What i call smallish is probably a fortune to you.
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Back to the subject matter at hand ...and Kherson has become a bloodbath for the orcs .as i've suggested it would be for quite some time.
Thousands of the orcs are trapped there and they are struggling to evacuate as hellfire is raining down on them...this is going to be a disaster for Russia and it's military. >:D
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"he HIMARS greatly outrange any artillery the orcs have."
not for Iskanders
a high profile target like HIMARS is totally worth an iskander compared to some ole apartment building...
Soviet era counter-artillery radar would do just fine for predicting launch and impact points of HIMARS
I really don't understand why Rooshins did't bait the HIMARS with a bunch of mobniks
and drop an iskander on them, when they take the bait
they still got em in the mountains in northern Krim
WTF?
things are REALLY getting "fugly" in Rooshya
hmmm hmmmm
every oilagarch is falling over themselves to be more aggressively patriotic
to "talk the talk" so they don't have to "walk the walk"
kinda reminds me of the end stage of nazi-ism, when the SS turned on the people, and executed large numbers of German civilians for being "defeatist"
I expect a Russian nuclear demo somewhere soon, not in Ukraine, not YET!
space or Russia or sea/ocean
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Soviet era counter-artillery radar would do just fine for predicting launch and impact points of HIMARS
I don't see how launch points can be predicted.
HIMARS targets can be predicted.
But to know the launch points within a few feet . . . come on now !!!
And, as I understand it, the HIMARS are immediately moved as soon as they fire. That's the HIM part.
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"I don't see how launch points can be predicted."
that's why I got paid the big bucks!!
I'm sure if you google "Weapons Locating & Counter Battery Radars" you'll find some layman description of the math behind it!!
an iskander from Krim might have a 3 min flight time
and can be lauched before the HIMARS impact
and this is based on the ancient hardware I used to work on...
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An Iskander from Krim might have a 3 min flight time
and can be launched before the HIMARS impact
But HIMARS will have already moved.
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John Kerry fears Russia-Ukraine war will distract
from climate change
"But it could have a profound negative impact on the
climate obviously. You have a war and obviously you’re
going to have massive emissions consequences to the
war.
But equally importantly, you're going to lose people's focus,
you're going to lose certainly big country attention because
they will be diverted and I think it could have a damaging
impact," he continued.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-kerry-russia-ukraine-war-climate-change
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What a Brain-dead comment.
Don't get your panties in a bunch over someone poking fun at the fact that you were talking like Trench. Maybe it is a British thing to make smallish donations, and then pound your chest trying to make it sound like you were doing something meaningful.
I was taught that giving should be in secret. Do not let the left hand know what the right hand is doing.
Out of a population of 67.3 million people,14.5 million of them are living in poverty in the UK....that's 21.5 %.
And what is the poverty rate in Ukraine?
Charity begins at home,so i have people to help here in the UK first
That's pure foolishness. Charity should be given where it is most needed, and where it will have the greatest benefit.
Even in America, you can find homeless bums who "need" charity. But it will have no benefit, as charity given to them is just wasted, and then they will need more.
Charity and welfare programs just create a larger need for charity and welfare.
I suggest you concentrate on your Bee keeping,whilst sending girls in Ukraine your cheap-ass food parcels
Beekeeping is just a sideline for me. I only sent one food parcel. I don't see the need now, as the food situation in unoccupied Ukraine has stabilized.
instead of trying to belittle people you know nothing about.
Do not be so foolish as to assume that I know nothing about you. If you post, people can learn things about you. For example, spelling and grammar correlate to IQ. Personality traits are also evident. People can also tell if someone is trying to live vicariously through the experiences of the soldiers.
What i call smallish is probably a fortune to you.
Once again, you assume. Then again, you might be correct, as I had a fine dinner last night of macaroni and cheese, with a can of tuna in it. I washed it down with plain old water. My trucks are 20 years old. (The US is entering recession and inflation is going crazy. 19% of the population is on welfare. I'm not sure what this has to do with my personal financial situation, but it sounds like a good excuse.)
Live like no one else today, so you can live like no one else tomorrow.
When the orcs bank their artillery on the other shore of the river,won't that leave them as sitting ducks for the Ukrainian HIMARS ?
The HIMARS greatly outrange any artillery the orcs have.
The 20 HIMARS the Ukrainians have,plus their 155mm artillery can create carnage amongst the orcs banked artillery with counterfire.
Yes, HIMARS artillery does have greater range than conventional artillery shells.
Unfortunately, HIMARS rockets cost about $150,000 each.
Unfortunately, Ukraine does not have an unlimited supply of HIMARS rockets.
Conventional artillery rounds cost anywhere from $400-$2,000 each.
Simple mathematics requires that Ukrainians get close enough to use their cheaper artillery ammo, but when they are close enough to use it, they are also within range of the Russian artillery. But the Russians have more guns and ammo. At that point, the question becomes who is a better shot, and how to make the Russians run low on ammo. (target ammo dumps.)
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Kherson has been liberated from the orcs. ;D
There are some lovely videos out there of the locals greeting the liberators.
The crowds mobbing them has actually slowed down the Ukrainian troops arriving at the city centre.
The Russian MOD claims they didn't lose a single soldier or piece of equipment during the withdrawal.
If that's the case i'm not sure what the Ukrainian artillery and MLRS were firing at all afternoon and night..they must be terrible shots. :rolleyes:
From photographic evidence it looks like several spans of the bridge along the Nova Kakhovka dam were blown up by the orcs during their retreat.
The Antonovski Bridge was blown by the retreating orcs,but wasn't usable anyway after the Ukrainian HIMARS strikes on it during the orc occupation of Kherson.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZALA_Lancet to cripple, and iskander to finish the job
this is the Russian team I'd put in to take out HIMARS
this war has intensified the use of drones and will accellerate its future development
like general aviation was boosted in WWI and WWII
I never paid much attention to drones
but let's just say, I've personally seen things this year that made me change my mind about 'em
and that's all I can say about that
glad to see Kherson is free, next big thing will be to take nova krakova
this will be an inflection point in the war
when the war will change to it's "next stage"
PostScript
"Do not let the left hand know what the right hand is doing."
cuz it'll get jealous, right? and if you use your left hand that means your bisexual!
"fine dinner last night of macaroni and cheese, with a can of tuna in it."
dewd, you REALLY need to get a woman!
left hand/right hand, macaroni and cheese...
this is NO way for a man to live!!
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"fine dinner last night of macaroni and cheese, with a can of tuna in it."
Would be tastier and easier on teeth to open the can and mix contents with mac and cheese.
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mac and cheese and tuna?
my college recipee was a can of spaghetti O's mixed with tuna
between two slices of buttered bread, back in those days this cost well under a dollar...
my first trip to Paris, I'd buy a bagette and a sausage
hollow out the bagette, coat the sausage in Dijion and insert
voila! instand sandwich
thank BOG I have wimmin taking care of me now!!
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And what is the poverty rate in Ukraine?
That's pure foolishness. Charity should be given where it is most needed, and where it will have the greatest benefit.
Even in America, you can find homeless bums who "need" charity. But it will have no benefit, as charity given to them is just wasted, and then they will need more.
Charity and welfare programs just create a larger need for charity and welfare.
I'll just respond to these comments.
I'm English...my friends and family are all English.
This means they get my priority for help when it's needed.
I have mentioned before on here that,unlike many on here, i have absolutely no affinity for Ukraine and it's people whatsoever.
Some men on here have wives from there,whilst others have a fondness for the country having made friends there.
None of this applies to me.
I travelled there once ,to meet a woman from Mariupol in Kiev.
After i returned home from our meeting she attempted to scam me for $300.
Whilst in Kiev i did not find the people in general pleasant or welcoming at all.They struck me as being aloof.
So i owe Ukraine nothing ..i've never returned there because the country and it's people mean nothing to me.
It's significant that many of the Ukrainian refugees who came here to the UK on the scheme whereby sponsors take them into their homes, are having problems with their sponsors.The sponsors are finding the Ukrainians to be self-entitled and now want them out of their homes.
However i have a great sense of right and wrong,and i believe that Ukraine has been greatly wronged by Russia invading their country....so i help when and where i can.
The Ukrainian people are very fortunate to get any of my help after my limited experience with them...and i will say no more on this matter.
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The better half has been working with Ukrainian refugees here, and we have family staying with us. The better half generally doesn’t mix with Ukrainians or Russians, but has not found any of the refugees he’s worked with to be entitled. He has great sympathy for all of them.
Family is a special circumstance.
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They've been on the news channels here in the UK.
Complaints from sponsors have ranged from having to drive the Ukrainian refugees around everywhere,because they refuse to catch a bus,to the Ukrainians refusing to take part in domestic duties like doing the washing-up,to Ukrainian children being allowed to run wild in their sponsors home when the sponsors are not around.
The latest raft of complaints is where Ukrainian refugees are demanding the sponsors accept their families over for Christmas from Ukraine.
1,915 Ukrainian refugee households have been made homeless in the UK's Homes for Ukraine scheme for various reasons....so far.
That doesn't mean they'll be living on the streets,but it does mean they'll be living in hostels and such.
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Ukraine has now built a wall in the north,at the border with Belarus.
It consists of a ditch,an embankment,a reinforced concrete fence with barbed wire.
Looks around twice the height of a man.
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They've been on the news channels here in the UK.
Complaints from sponsors have ranged from having to drive the Ukrainian refugees around everywhere,because they refuse to catch a bus,to the Ukrainians refusing to take part in domestic duties like doing the washing-up,to Ukrainian children being allowed to run wild in their sponsors home when the sponsors are not around.
The latest raft of complaints is where Ukrainian refugees are demanding the sponsors accept their families over for Christmas from Ukraine.
1,915 Ukrainian refugee households have been made homeless in the UK's Homes for Ukraine scheme for various reasons....so far.
That doesn't mean they'll be living on the streets,but it does mean they'll be living in hostels and such.
I would say that I am not totally surprised and find some cultural traits from the Ukrainian society, I will rewrite the ones I concur:
1/ having to drive them
2/ Demanding that their families are accepted
I valid these two points.
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Isn't the "traditional values" the reason you seek UW? Thos traditional values mean family is critically important.
As for driving, that's not been my experience.
There are almost 95,000 hosted families in the UK. There are bound to be a few bad apples. We don't hear about the majority, who are working out just fine.
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It's not about the values I am searching for.
It's about the sponsors who give a shelter for one, two or three people and don't want to have five, six or seven at a time."The latest raft of complaints is where Ukrainian refugees are demanding the sponsors accept their families over for Christmas from Ukraine."
It's all about cultural differences.
Recently a FSU woman asked me to deliver a jacket to a member of her family, which I agreed, and she ended with a bag, with a lot of clothes. That was not the deal and she felt my extreme discomfort. Additionally she was asking me to do something illegal (don't want to give more details). A the same time she showed up in sports shoes and sport clothes in a luxurious restaurant but was uncomfortable because I didn't drop my jacket at the wardrobe.
So we see here in few lines how the "paradox" of cultural differences can strike...
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You are mixing with the wrong type of Ukrainians. I have never had anyone ask me, or the better half, to transfer large numbers of goods, or buy significant amounts. I have delivered goods on behalf of others, but it’s always been small amounts.
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You are mixing with the wrong type of Ukrainians. I have never had anyone ask me, or the better half, to transfer large numbers of goods, or buy significant amounts. I have delivered goods on behalf of others, but it’s always been small amounts.
Maybe, but they exist.
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as someone who used to live there, this is just ONE of the many hassles you'll face with the locals!
people pushing you to get all kinds of western things for them
after awhile I put a stop to it, told my wife to tell 'em all I said we had no room
and to blame me and not her
this was the start of my journey towards being a "Rus Buster"
so if ya gotta Russian problem in your neighborhood, WHO ya gonna call?
Rus Busters!!
I got REAL GOOD at it!!
other issue
everybody there knew I was wealthy, so they were always asking about "borrowing" money
they'd even shed tears...
you wanna live over there, you better harden your heart, or those people will "eat you alive"
I hated the person I became from living over there
took me awhile to adjust after returning to the USA
fighting old ladies trying to cut me in line was the worst
freakin staroshka suka I shoved her to the back of the line
groups of drunken gopnick hooligans will try and pick a fight with the lone foreigner to impress their girlfriends
I started out with nosh and britva but moved on to a hand pooshka made from a 26.5mm flare gun to deal with them
yeah, I feared no evil there, cuz I was much, much worse than them
it IS better to be feared than loved in Russia
pretty much all Russians have PTSD and anti-social personality disorder
you better be able to put fear in their hearts or they'll come for you in one way or another
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You better harden your heart
Krim :clapping:
Or they will eat you alive :welcome:
Better to be feared than loved :applaud:
Cannot say better. Be feared = be respected.
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for me, these issues are just a few of the negatives experiences westerners have living there
you will be paranoid about leaving your home unattended while on vacation, etc
you will have steel bars on the windows and armored doors of your home
if your mailbox is in a public area, your mail will be stolen
you can't park your car unprotected out in the open or it'll be vandalized...
and so forth and so on...
the worst IMHO, are the changes you have to make to yourself to survive there
you become one of THEM....
for me the rewards of being there didn't match the hassles, especially NOW!!!
I don't know why you'd want to leave France for Ukraine
I know nothing about La femme Francaise however
here in the USA there are gazillions of single (divorced) women in their 40s
you would't even have to marry them, only if you tuely WANTED to
they can't find men who are interested in them, and most of us KNOW WHY!!
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for me, these issues are just a few of the negatives experiences westerners have living there
you will be paranoid about leaving your home unattended while on vacation, etc
you will have steel bars on the windows and armored doors of your home
if your mailbox is in a public area, your mail will be stolen
you can't park your car unprotected out in the open or it'll be vandalized...
and so forth and so on...
the worst IMHO, are the changes you have to make to yourself to survive there
you become one of THEM....
for me the rewards of being there didn't match the hassles, especially NOW!!!
I don't know why you'd want to leave France for Ukraine
I know nothing about La femme Francaise however
here in the USA there are gazillions of single (divorced) women in their 40s
you would't even have to marry them, only if you tuely WANTED to
they can't find men who are interested in them, and most of us KNOW WHY!!
I have been living in some countries that could compete with Ukraine until my 19's so what you describe is not new for me.
What you say confirm what a female friend (Ukrainian) told me about her problems when she opened an office, a sort of house with the door opening directly on the street. She moved to a building (so most of the time there is concierge as you know) and it solved many shit (beggars entering in her office, IT stuff stolen etc...).
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As i predicted the orc artillery,banked on the other side of the river to the city of Kherson,is now getting smashed by Ukrainian artillery.
Ukrainian forces crossed the river at Nova Kakhovka and a CNN reporter in Kherson city said the Ukrainian artillery have been heard through the day and into the night absolutely hammering the orcs .
I should have been a General ;D
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that would mean that the northern tip of the Crimean Canal is now under Ukrainian control
if Ukraine blocks it sufficiently, then water will stop flowing to Crimea
a true disaster for them
maybe Ukraine can use this as leverage to get Russians to cease attacking their energy infrastructure
there's just one open gas pipeline from Russia to Crimea now, which is out in the open unproteced, this also feeds Russia's 3 new power plants in Crimea
one bomb and there goes gas and electricity to Crimea...
yes, we all know what happens to British Generals in Ukraine
Half a league, half a league,. Half a league onward,. All in the valley of Death...
I like the film on this subject made about 1969 or so in the UK
most favorite movie line, "shall we have a go at them again, sir?"
I love stoics!!
I'd watch what Iran is up to now
this might be Pootin's card hidden up his sleeve
a clever move having a Kurd set off a bomb in Istanbul today, on the same street as the Russian embassy
Turky blames the USA (LOL)
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that would mean that the northern tip of the Crimean Canal is now under Ukrainian control
if Ukraine blocks it sufficiently, then water will stop flowing to Crimea
a true disaster for them
maybe Ukraine can use this as leverage to get Russians to cease attacking their energy infrastructure
there's just one open gas pipeline from Russia to Crimea now, which is out in the open unproteced, this also feeds Russia's 3 new power plants in Crimea
one bomb and there goes gas and electricity to Crimea...
yes, we all know what happens to British Generals in Ukraine
Half a league, half a league,. Half a league onward,. All in the valley of Death...
I like the film on this subject made about 1969 or so in the UK
most favorite movie line, "shall we have a go at them again, sir?"
I love stoics!!
I'd watch what Iran is up to now
this might be Pootin's card hidden up his sleeve
a clever move having a Kurd set off a bomb in Istanbul today, on the same street as the Russian embassy
Turky blames the USA (LOL)
That would be quite funny if the RussiaNatiK in Crimea suffer the same. No electricity, no gas, fear, missiles, new color uniforms soon, business zero, etc...
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Yesterday Ukrainian missile and artillery units launched fifty fire missions,in particular on the concentration of enemy units ,weapons,equipment and ammunition depot in Oleshky.
The orcs are urgently evacuating the earlier brought Russian civilians from Zaliznyi Port to Skadovsk.
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** breaking **
a Russian missile hit Poland and killed 2 civilians, Poland calls for emergency gov meeting...
if this was deliberate and not accidental, then it's likely a prelude to a nuke launched from Belarus towards western ukraine
BTW, getting rid of Pootin will accomplish nothing, FSB will simply select a new national leader to replace him
potential candidates are already auditioning
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Out of the 90 missiles launched at Ukraine today by the orcs ,73 were shot down by Ukrainian air defence.
NASAMS hit 10/10 missiles.
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as someone who used to live there, this is just ONE of the many hassles you'll face with the locals!
people pushing you to get all kinds of western things for them
after awhile I put a stop to it, told my wife to tell 'em all I said we had no room
and to blame me and not her
this was the start of my journey towards being a "Rus Buster"
so if ya gotta Russian problem in your neighborhood, WHO ya gonna call?
Rus Busters!!
I got REAL GOOD at it!!
other issue
everybody there knew I was wealthy, so they were always asking about "borrowing" money
they'd even shed tears...
you wanna live over there, you better harden your heart, or those people will "eat you alive"
I hated the person I became from living over there
took me awhile to adjust after returning to the USA
fighting old ladies trying to cut me in line was the worst
freakin staroshka suka I shoved her to the back of the line
groups of drunken gopnick hooligans will try and pick a fight with the lone foreigner to impress their girlfriends
I started out with nosh and britva but moved on to a hand pooshka made from a 26.5mm flare gun to deal with them
yeah, I feared no evil there, cuz I was much, much worse than them
it IS better to be feared than loved in Russia
pretty much all Russians have PTSD and anti-social personality disorder
you better be able to put fear in their hearts or they'll come for you in one way or another
I never had anyone push me for Western goods. I would let old ladies cut in line, because they are old, and there, it's a respect thing. I never had anyone else ever cut me in line.
Yes, life there definitely is more difficult, and you must have your wits about you. However, I still think it all boils down to the company you keep.
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I never whitewash livin in the FSU AND HAVE NO SENSE OF "nostalgie" about it
and YOU know perfectly well what I'm talkin about, that it's a "dog-eat-dog" culture
oh yeah, have your wits about you, hmmm hmmmm...
closest western equivalent would be living at the edge of a garbage dump surrounded by condemned buildings and your neighbors are all ex-cons
and those were THE GOOD OLE DAYS!!
a good darwinian breeding ground for the social mobility of criminality and anti-social behavior
I learned A LOT there!!!!
I do understand causality
the 20th century was BRUTAL for the population of the FSU
and sure looks like it's gonna be the same for the 21st as well
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I have a weird feelin that WAR is coming, no matter what the catalyst is that sets it off
so it's gonna be Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea and now TURKEY in this corner
and in the opposite corner
Ukraine, Israel, NATO(- Turkey)
and dumb phuques wanna close the border to Mexico
ya'll think you're gonna fly outta the USA when the excrement hits the reciprocating cooling device?
LOL, this is why I have a BOAT and property in Costa Rica!!!
I don't need no stinkin permission, visa, or even a ticket
s'long and thanks for all the fish you suckers!!
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... I never had anyone else ever cut me in line.
Remembering the McDonalds in Moscow, there was no cutting in line.
Because there was nothing that resembled a line.
Thirty packed people all squeezing toward the registers.
Young boys eating leftovers on the tables.
But the drive-through worked fine for a late evening Coke and fries.
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hmmm "bolshoi Mac s'yrom projouste"
I fondly remember those days, sigh...
all overwith now...
think outside the box
there really is is no box
acknowledge that the old world will fall behind you
and ya ain't gonna like
what you're gonna see up in front of ya
don't wanna scare ya
but just tellin you like it is
horrosho moy brat?
zo zaboot FSU girl friend
and focus on how to meet someone your own age
not for marriage, but as room mates
the society of mutual self preservation
is what it's all gonna be about in the future
and not sexual gratification, etc
whatever your "measure"
find a female of the same measure
and learn to be a team
survival for each of you just got 2X easier!!
see how EASY
so abandon old habits of thinking
let the dead bury the dead
all those who want to live should follow me
just kidding!
it's really crucification!!
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I have a weird feelin that WAR is coming, no matter what the catalyst is that sets it off
so it's gonna be Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea and now TURKEY in this corner
and in the opposite corner
Ukraine, Israel, NATO(- Turkey)
and dumb phuques wanna close the border to Mexico
ya'll think you're gonna fly outta the USA when the excrement hits the reciprocating cooling device?
LOL, this is why I have a BOAT and property in Costa Rica!!!
I don't need no stinkin permission, visa, or even a ticket
s'long and thanks for all the fish you suckers!!
I also have a feeling war is coming..i'm surprised the USA hasn't bombed Iranian missile and drone stocks and production plants yet.
Iran has been a perpetual thorn in the USA's side and i thought their supplying of weapons to Russia,and with the Iranian citizens protests against the regime there, now would have been the perfect excuse to bomb the f*ck out of them.
Why do you think Turkey would jump ship and side with the axis of evil ?
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I never whitewash livin in the FSU AND HAVE NO SENSE OF "nostalgie" about it
and YOU know perfectly well what I'm talkin about, that it's a "dog-eat-dog" culture
oh yeah, have your wits about you, hmmm hmmmm...
closest western equivalent would be living at the edge of a garbage dump surrounded by condemned buildings and your neighbors are all ex-cons
and those were THE GOOD OLE DAYS!!
a good darwinian breeding ground for the social mobility of criminality and anti-social behavior
I learned A LOT there!!!!
I do understand causality
the 20th century was BRUTAL for the population of the FSU
and sure looks like it's gonna be the same for the 21st as well
You will find the same archetypes of individuals in the West that you do in the FSU. Everything from psychopaths to selfless individuals. You were locked out of the highest "levels" of their society, as you're not part of it, so you probably saw things you aren't exposed to in the West.
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you make too simple a reduction
just like you can see the line of demarcation between east and west Berlin
in the difference of the quality of the buildings on each side
a similar quality is exhibited by the people
the people on the eastern side suffer the social effects of poverty more than in the west
just LIKE THE BUILDINGS!!
lower life span, higher alcohol abuse, higher petty crime
in the USA these issues are correlated with poverty
the problem is that the majority of the people in the FSU are poor
so these characteristics are more common there than upper class areas of the USA
this is what I'm trying to say
this is why I created "a safe living zone" for my family over yonder
and always kept a buffer between me and Russian neighbors
best way to avoid conflicts with Russian neighbors is to not really have any
and have an independent water/electric/gas supply and grow your own food
asd a large amount of us dollars and debit cards in a concealed safe for "emergencies"
this means you kinda have to live away from city center
and buy some land to build your own private villa
stay away from apartment living in Russia
the noise will drive you mad!!
and then you gotta also go get a garage somewhere to park your car, cuz you can't leave it out overnite in front of your apartment
cuz in the morning your tires and battery will be gone
OTOH, if you go all out on the villa
then you can add a swimming pool and nice enclosed garage and work area
and be a mini-oligarch
a lotta places in Russia and Ukraine where you can buy a nice sized boat and keep it at a guarded marina
the ones in Moscow have all the hookups, so you could even live there on the boat a short while at the Marina on the Moscva or Dnipro
and of course Odesa and Sevastopol has the chorny moira
it'd be cool to just work on the boat while chillin on the southern Moskva past where the big industrial places turn into forest
they're not crowded with tour boats like inside the 3 ring part of the river
not sure what to do in the winter time
besides trip on ice
I wore ski boots and cleats to reduce it
but DAMN it gets COLD!
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I will answer you later, krimster. I disagree with your premise.
This is a series of Twitter posts by Kamil Galeev, a Tatar from Russia, a fellow at the Wilson Center. I don’t always agree with him, but his analysis of Putin is usually spot on. Here, he outlines why Kremlin stooge John Mearsheimer (quoted here previously by anti American Putinistas) is wrong.
http://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1593388247799021568.html
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I read an interesting analysis by a Ukrainian military officer on the destruction of civilian infrastructure. His view is that this is done to break down Western, rather than Ukrainian, resolve. He said Russia knows that Ukrainians will not bend even with no heat, water, or electricity. However, if the country is destroyed, Russia believes the West will not wish to commit to rebuilding it.
I think this analysis is accurate.
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Rishi Sunak has just rocked up in Kyiv and announced new air defence for Ukraine...£50 million worth.
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I read an interesting analysis by a Ukrainian military officer on the destruction of civilian infrastructure. His view is that this is done to break down Western, rather than Ukrainian, resolve. He said Russia knows that Ukrainians will not bend even with no heat, water, or electricity. However, if the country is destroyed, Russia believes the West will not wish to commit to rebuilding it.
I think this analysis is accurate.
I don't agree with that. To me, that argument sounds like Ukrainian spin intended to guilt western countries into providing more financial support.
The infrastructure attacks (water/electric/train stations/etc) are only temporary. If the war ended today, I suspect that utilities would be restored within a month. Delaying investment by a month is nothing.
If you want to destroy infrastructure to discourage investment, you destroy every bridge possible. (especially railroad bridges, since Ukraine is so dependent upon rail.) You burn down every single building. You tear out every mile of electric wire. You salt the fields - of not with salt, then radioactive waste. You completely destroy shipping ports and then sink every boat possible in the harbor. You destroy every barge and merchant marine vessel. You completely destroy every fuel depot.
These things take time to repair and rebuild. These things must be fixed before you can attract investor money for projects that will earn a return.
I think the reason is far more simple. Khodorkovsky said that when the common Ukrainian people did not come out to greet the Russian soldiers with flowers and open arms, this made Putin go crazy and put him in a rage.
Remember right after the war started, they had some peace talks? It was in March sometime. Putin sent a message to Ukraine. "I will thrash you."
I think that is what the destruction of civilian infrastructure is about. The insolent Ukrainians did not worship Putin and greet his soldiers with flowers, so he wants to make them suffer. I think he knows that militarily Russia can't defeat Ukraine as long as it has western support...but he can make them suffer and make their life miserable, so that is what he is doing.
It's classic Soviet playbook. Remember 90 years ago? Those insolent kulaks wanted an independent Ukraine. They all wanted to own their own family farm, where they could eke out a living. They did not want to be a part of Soviet collective farms.
So the Soviets starved them into submission with the Holodomor. 4.5 million starved to death, and untold millions nearly starved to death.
It would not surprise me if the Russians start bombing food distribution warehouses again, like they did at the start of the war. The old saying is that civilized societies are only 9 meals from complete anarchy. When people go without food for 3 days straight, society breaks down.
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I don't agree with that. To me, that argument sounds like Ukrainian spin intended to guilt western countries into providing more financial support.
The infrastructure attacks (water/electric/train stations/etc) are only temporary. If the war ended today, I suspect that utilities would be restored within a month. Delaying investment by a month is nothing.
If you want to destroy infrastructure to discourage investment, you destroy every bridge possible. (especially railroad bridges, since Ukraine is so dependent upon rail.) You burn down every single building. You tear out every mile of electric wire. You salt the fields - of not with salt, then radioactive waste. You completely destroy shipping ports and then sink every boat possible in the harbor. You destroy every barge and merchant marine vessel. You completely destroy every fuel depot.
These things take time to repair and rebuild. These things must be fixed before you can attract investor money for projects that will earn a return.
I think the reason is far more simple. Khodorkovsky said that when the common Ukrainian people did not come out to greet the Russian soldiers with flowers and open arms, this made Putin go crazy and put him in a rage.
Remember right after the war started, they had some peace talks? It was in March sometime. Putin sent a message to Ukraine. "I will thrash you."
I think that is what the destruction of civilian infrastructure is about. The insolent Ukrainians did not worship Putin and greet his soldiers with flowers, so he wants to make them suffer. I think he knows that militarily Russia can't defeat Ukraine as long as it has western support...but he can make them suffer and make their life miserable, so that is what he is doing.
It's classic Soviet playbook. Remember 90 years ago? Those insolent kulaks wanted an independent Ukraine. They all wanted to own their own family farm, where they could eke out a living. They did not want to be a part of Soviet collective farms.
So the Soviets starved them into submission with the Holodomor. 4.5 million starved to death, and untold millions nearly starved to death.
It would not surprise me if the Russians start bombing food distribution warehouses again, like they did at the start of the war. The old saying is that civilized societies are only 9 meals from complete anarchy. When people go without food for 3 days straight, society breaks down.
The Holodomor was planned even before the Bolsheviks attained power. It's not a good comparison.
The reason Russia won't salt the earth, nuke it, etc., is because they want those lands. Rubes believe this is about NATO on Russia's doorstep (it's already on Russia's doorstep, in the Baltics and Poland). Read what Putin has written and said the past two decades. He has always maintained that Ukraine is an "artificial country", that Ukrainians don't exist as a separate ethnicity. That's what his invasion was about. I do believe Russia thinks the Europeans, in particular will develop fatigue in supporting Ukraine, and will abandon Ukraine. That's what the infrastructure hits are about.
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I don't recall ever hearing that the Holodomor was planned before the Bolsheviks attained power. But Ukrainian or even Soviet history was not really taught in school.
The stuff that sticks in my head was that they tried getting Ukrainians to collectivize. Farm output and the Ukrainian economy started going down the toilet. So the government backed off. The Ukrainians farmers started making money and the economy was growing again. 6 or 8 years maybe. And then the Soviets really pushed the collective farms in Ukraine, which ultimately led to the Holodomor.
I'm not convinced the infrastructure hits are related to trying to pressure western countries/Europe into developing support fatigue. It just doesn't make sense to me.
Cutting off gas to Europe before winter DOES seem to me to be trying to pressure Europe into fatigue. Higher prices, or gas shortages, will cause social unrest among the people. I think most people are disconnected from understanding that government spending is funded by taxation. (or at least in the US.)
Another possibility is that by targeting infrastructure, Russia is trying to cause the flight of human capital.
Many of the Ukrainians who moved to other countries did so because they had the financial means to do so. Often, these are the politically connected or educated professionals or business folks. There's a brain drain happening for Ukraine too.
I think the longer the war stretches on, the more those Ukrainian immigrants will start to assimilate, learn western languages, and start to create lives in their host countries. I think it is naive to believe that everyone who left Ukraine to escape the war will return after the war is over. (Or if they return, will want to rebuild if they see villages and towns reduced to rubble, especially if they lived in the Russian occupied areas. Let's be honest. How many people will want to live in Mariupol anytime soon, even if it returned to Ukrainian control tomorrow?)
Then again, I look at things through a slightly different lens. I was always taught that Russia was Gog and Magog, which is going to nuke America into oblivion without warning once Wormwood appears. (Once Wormwood appears, they will believe the world is going to be f*cked anyway...and they will have nothing to lose by nuking America. It's like a kid who knows they are going to lose a game, so they knock the board off the table.) I had always wondered why Russia would resort to using the nuclear option as a first attack instead first using conventional warfare...but the war in Ukraine explains that. Russia now knows they have no chance of winning a conventional war, which would explain using nukes as a first option.
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I don't recall ever hearing that the Holodomor was planned before the Bolsheviks attained power. But Ukrainian or even Soviet history was not really taught in school.
The stuff that sticks in my head was that they tried getting Ukrainians to collectivize. Farm output and the Ukrainian economy started going down the toilet. So the government backed off. The Ukrainians farmers started making money and the economy was growing again. 6 or 8 years maybe. And then the Soviets really pushed the collective farms in Ukraine, which ultimately led to the Holodomor.
I'm not convinced the infrastructure hits are related to trying to pressure western countries/Europe into developing support fatigue. It just doesn't make sense to me.
Cutting off gas to Europe before winter DOES seem to me to be trying to pressure Europe into fatigue. Higher prices, or gas shortages, will cause social unrest among the people. I think most people are disconnected from understanding that government spending is funded by taxation. (or at least in the US.)
Another possibility is that by targeting infrastructure, Russia is trying to cause the flight of human capital.
Many of the Ukrainians who moved to other countries did so because they had the financial means to do so. Often, these are the politically connected or educated professionals or business folks. There's a brain drain happening for Ukraine too.
I think the longer the war stretches on, the more those Ukrainian immigrants will start to assimilate, learn western languages, and start to create lives in their host countries. I think it is naive to believe that everyone who left Ukraine to escape the war will return after the war is over. (Or if they return, will want to rebuild if they see villages and towns reduced to rubble, especially if they lived in the Russian occupied areas. Let's be honest. How many people will want to live in Mariupol anytime soon, even if it returned to Ukrainian control tomorrow?)
Then again, I look at things through a slightly different lens. I was always taught that Russia was Gog and Magog, which is going to nuke America into oblivion without warning once Wormwood appears. (Once Wormwood appears, they will believe the world is going to be f*cked anyway...and they will have nothing to lose by nuking America. It's like a kid who knows they are going to lose a game, so they knock the board off the table.) I had always wondered why Russia would resort to using the nuclear option as a first attack instead first using conventional warfare...but the war in Ukraine explains that. Russia now knows they have no chance of winning a conventional war, which would explain using nukes as a first option.
Collective farming was planned by Trotsky before the Revolution took hold in Ukraine.
Much of Europe has already replaced Russian gas. Germany needs no imports of Russian gas, they have enough in storage for the winter.
People whose families have lived in Mariupol for centuries will return. That drive, to be on "my ancestors' lands" is something North Americans don't really comprehend.
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Much of Europe has already replaced Russian gas. Germany needs no imports of Russian gas, they have enough in storage for the winter.
They will need gas for winter but they will probably source it elsewhere
Germany's Natural Gas Storage Will Last For Two And A Half Months
http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germanys-Natural-Gas-Storage-Will-Last-For-Two-And-A-Half-Months.html
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Douglas Murray says.... (http://nypost.com/2022/11/18/on-a-visit-to-kherson-i-see-why-the-ukrainians-will-win-with-our-support/)
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^That was an interesting article.
Here is one about China’s role-
http://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-red-line-biden-and-xis-secret-ukraine-talks-revealed/
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^That was an interesting article.
Here is one about China’s role-
http://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-red-line-biden-and-xis-secret-ukraine-talks-revealed/
The Chinese are not to be trusted.
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They work in their own interests, and take a long view.
I don't trust them, but understand that they want good relations with Russia.
This is worth watching -
http://youtu.be/HChCRZthxjw
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ya'll wanna see what Russian foreign political hacking looks like?
modern version of a Soviet Pravda Za Mir approach
ya'll rember "Za Mir"
well, I gotcher Za Mir RIGT HERE!
http://www.peaceactionwi.org/ukraine_crisis
meanwhile GAZPROM office in downtown Houston has a new "front man" who started just a few months ago
an American CPA LOL!!!
PS
I told ya'll years ago on this web site that Biden's son's emails were being faked by the GRU
guess what?
in January 2023, the Republican Pro-Russian Caucus of the House will start a special session to investigate Hunter Biden's Ukrainian laptop
I hope ya'll spelled everything right Tovartisch!
and for Bog's sake, Christmas is December 25, not January 7, Gozpedy, I can't believe you let THAT ONE through!
there's a magic eye in the sky
it wizzes 'round the earth every 90 minutes
and takes pictures of the battlefield
and sends 'em to a place in Odenton, Maryland
where a computer makes a spreadsheet of the coordinates it finds of campfires at night
and records location, duration, size
and compares these coordinates
from night to night
this Informatze gets translated to Ukrainian and updated constantly
cuz ukrainians shoot artillery "pooshkie" at these spots evey day
and Russians STILL don't know how they're being targeted
blaming it on local "spies"
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A Ukrainian friend told me some analysts are saying there is a 95% chance Belarus is going to join in the attack on Ukraine. They are waiting on -10 temperatures to freeze the ground.
I told them western analysts didn't think Belarus would attack. They only have a few thousand combat ready troops, and joining the war would probably break up Lukashenko's regime.
They said there are 15,000 Belarus troops, and 13,000 Russian troops that are ready and waiting. They also pointed out that every 3rd missile fired at Ukraine comes from Belarus.
Let's hope Lukashenko's generals exercise some common sense and stay out of the war.
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An interesting article on sanctions-
http://archive.ph/WQkRT
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Russia’s initial plans for Ukraine.
Anyone who believes this was about NATO is delusional.
http://archive.ph/7cayk
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Russia’s initial plans for Ukraine.
Anyone who believes this was about NATO is delusional.
http://archive.ph/7cayk
I'm a little skeptical of this. Where was Russia going to source the manpower needed to conduct a door-to-door operation like this? They would probably need a million man army to do this.
Why isn't Moldova mentioned in this? Early maps showed Russian plans for sweeping into Moldova too.
Why didn't the Belorussian airborne forces participate?
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Russia’s initial plans for Ukraine.
Anyone who believes this was about NATO is delusional.
http://archive.ph/7cayk
Tell that to the folk at the other place. The lies being propagated there showcase the owner as a Kremlin mouth piece on steroids.
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I have a figure of 10k to 13k Ukrainian troops killed in this war so far,with another 7k missing in action....source M.Podolyak and now officially confirmed.
This compares favourably with Russian troops current death toll of 90,600...source Ukraine MOD.
I suspect the HIMARS etc and the 155mm precision artillery being used by Ukraine has played a major part in the far higher death toll for the Russian orcs....all these being increasingly used on high concentrations of them.
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Tell that to the folk at the other place. The lies being propagated there showcase the owner as a Kremlin mouth piece on steroids.
That site needs shutting down ,as Russian TV was in this country.
The reasoning being that they're both pro-Russian propaganda outlets,so why should one be allowed to continue spewing it's Putler/Kremlin lies and rhetoric in the UK and not the other ?
I stopped viewing posts there some time ago..most of the participants,with a couple of exceptions who also post on here plus B.B.,i find to be abhorrent individuals lacking in any decency and morality whatsoever just like their heroes,some of whom are clearly drunk when posting.
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Tell that to the folk at the other place. The lies being propagated there showcase the owner as a Kremlin mouth piece on steroids.
I had to laugh at allegations against me of being "pro Ukraine". Of course I am pro Ukraine. Like any sane person. As I noted if Ukraine had INVADED Russia, I would be "pro Russia".
Russia is an autocracy. Ukraine is not. Both have ineffective, corrupt governments. But, Ukrainians were fighting their local corruption. Russians never have. I am bemused by Westerners who support autocratic, corrupt regimes. We all know they won't live there (other than Steve, who shut up when I pointed out he is not the "big shot" he claims to be).
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I had to laugh at allegations against me of being "pro Ukraine". Of course I am pro Ukraine. Like any sane person. As I noted if Ukraine had INVADED Russia, I would be "pro Russia".
Russia is an autocracy. Ukraine is not. Both have ineffective, corrupt governments. But, Ukrainians were fighting their local corruption. Russians never have. I am bemused by Westerners who support autocratic, corrupt regimes. We all know they won't live there (other than Steve, who shut up when I pointed out he is not the "big shot" he claims to be).
It bemuses me also,but the sad reality is that there are unpleasant people/nutjobs everywhere.
One only has to look at the comments by a certain rapper in the USA to see how mentally deranged some people are..the ludicrous beliefs he has totally ignoring the fact that if Hitler had won he'd have been raised in a concentration camp and no way would he have had the luxurious lifestyle he has now.
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I had to laugh at allegations against me of being "pro Ukraine". Of course I am pro Ukraine. Like any sane person. As I noted if Ukraine had INVADED Russia, I would be "pro Russia".
Russia is an autocracy. Ukraine is not. Both have ineffective, corrupt governments. But, Ukrainians were fighting their local corruption. Russians never have. I am bemused by Westerners who support autocratic, corrupt regimes. We all know they won't live there (other than Steve, who shut up when I pointed out he is not the "big shot" he claims to be).
Indeed. One doesn’t need to have connections to Ukraine to acknowledge right from wrong.
There seems to be complete cognitive dissonance amongst the rabid Putin supporters who trot out the same tired variants of ‘Nazism’ and other tripe to justify aggression on a scale unseen since WW2.
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Explosions rock Russian military airbases; new strikes hit Ukraine
http://dnyuz.com/2022/12/05/explosions-rock-russian-military-airbases-new-strikes-hit-ukraine/
Satellite Images Show Massive Destruction At Russian Air Base On Crimea
http://www.rferl.org/a/crimea-russian-air-base-attacked-satellite-images/31982540.html
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http://youtu.be/RMU2xuIqLVU
http://youtu.be/t89Q1W4GkXw
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This is very tangentially connected to the discussion of Russian autocracy. The last paragraphs proved prescient.
http://www.nationalreview.com/2006/11/kremlins-killing-ways-ion-mihai-pacepa/
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Tell that to the folk at the other place. The lies being propagated there showcase the owner as a Kremlin mouth piece on steroids.
He is Bagdad Bob
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One source of information that I like to follow is Denys Davydov on Telegram. He is a Ukrainian who reports on the latest developments.
Here's the Telegram link: http://t.me/pilotblog
He also has a YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/@DenysDavydov
If follow him on Telegram, you'll always see links to his latest YouTubes.
I searched for Denys before posting this information in case someone had already provided these links. So I hope this information is helpful.
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Peter Zeihan has had some interesting perspectives.
He pointed out that Russia HAS to keep the oil in the Siberian pipelines flowing. If the pipeline from the Siberian oilfields stops flowing, the cold will thicken and gel the crude oil, and it will basically be impossible to ever resume flows again. (I guess they could theoretically build a new pipeline, but how many decades would that take?) Because countries are buying less Russian oil, Russia has simply stopped production in its warmer southern oilfields, because it will be possible to resume production someday.
Samara is a big junction point for pipelines and refineries. Peter Zeihan pointed out that this is a soft place for Russia. He expects Ukraine to target this with the long range drone they built which they just used to hit a couple Russian airfields recently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wga-JPEWGzA
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Russian military tire factory on fire
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-military-tire-factory-fire-211900110.html
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Russian military tire factory on fire
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-military-tire-factory-fire-211900110.html
http://youtu.be/-HbuMZ2Xbe8
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Zelenskyy says Bakhmut is ‘destroyed’
President Zelenskyy has said that Russian forces have “destroyed”
the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut where the most active fighting
in Ukraine is taking place.
Ukraine’s military also reports strikes in other provinces: Kharkiv and Sumy
in the northeast, central Ukraine’s Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia in the
southeast and Kherson in the south.
read more here:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2022/12/10/russia-ukraine-live-news-zelenskyy-says-bakhmut-is-destroyed
Russia-Ukraine war live: Moscow has turned entire city of Bakhmut to ‘burnt ruins’, says Zelenskiy
The latest battles of Russia’s nine-and-a-half-month war in Ukraine have centred on
four provinces that Russian president Vladimir Putin illegally claimed to have annexed
in late September, the Associated Press reported.
The fighting indicates Moscow’s struggle to establish control of the regions and Ukraine’s
determination to reclaim them. Zelenskiy said the situation “remains very difficult” in
several frontline cities in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk provinces.
Together, the provinces make up the Donbas, an expansive industrial region
bordering Russia that Putin identified as a focus from the war’s outset, where
Moscow-backed separatists have fought since 2014.
“Bakhmut, Soledar, Maryinka, Kreminna. For a long time, there is no living
place left on the land of these areas that have not been damaged by shells
and fire,” Zelenskiy said in his nightly video address.
read more here
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/dec/10/russia-ukraine-war-live-jens-stoltenberg-warns-against-conflict-spiralling-into-russia-nato-war
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A few newspaper articles about the war.
http://wapo.st/3V5QivA
http://tinyurl.com/363c754e
http://youtu.be/jBaOO5CngMk
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Ukraine's army issued an instruction video on Monday with a step-by-step guide for Russian soldiers on how to surrender to one of its drones.
The video comes as part of Ukraine's "I Want to Live" project, a hotline that encourages Russians who are reluctant to fight in Ukraine to surrender.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-army-video-tells-russians-how-to-surrender-to-drone-2022-12
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both my children and their husbands flew in to stay with my wife and me for the holidays
first time I've seen them in a year!
I feel so happy
but..
sad, as well
I am cut off from my Russian and Ukrainian friends
some are dead, 2020-2022 was a brutal time for stariks in Rossiya
most of the ones I knew are dead now
some were really good friends
some in-laws have been mobilized
the Russian mobilization WAS BRUTAL!
no advanced notification AT ALL
army show up at your door, reads the proclamation, and tells you to go pack your suitcase, you're coming with us!
just like you see on a sci-fi movie where the govenment swoops in to pick up some badly needed scientists to deal with the aliens!
BUT...
these guys are primarily trench diggers in Northern Crimea now
and all these guys are really too old for the military, my brother-in-law is 41
they ONLY selected guys to be mobilized who had past military training
and that left out the majority of young people
so instead they get the 40 yr olds
a week ago one of the big barracks north of the Massandra winery in Crimea was hit with one of them 50 yr old soviet target drones modified by Ukr and did major damage, my brother-in-law was there
he is allowed to phone his wife and children once per week, and is allowed to say little more than that he's OK...
his wife and children will be spending Christmas without him
same for the rest of them mobniks taken from the working class village of Shevchenko
none of them will know if their husband/son/father/brother/friend is alive on Christmas day or not
I couldn't imagine having my children in this situation
several of my friends and business associates are just missing in Kyiv
and the only info I can get is from when Kiev has power so I can try and contact them or others, so much of the time, I just get nothing...
there are few people in Russia who are not afraid to take my calls, and believe me, I am very careful with what I say on the phone while talking to Russians
but never the less, most are too paranoid to be identified as someone who receives a call from hated Amerika!
but from what I can gather, from those who will take my calls, the mood in Russia is really dark now
first, EVERYBODY'S sick, there's some weird viruses goin around all the big Russian cities
which is bad, cuz in some parts of Russia there's NO hospital space or doctors available, cuz the war took them, so ya gotta start with that
and then, the economy is starting to drag a bit, inflatze, lack of goods, shortages,
people are worried about losing their jobs, etc
then of course, anxiety about the war
there's a lot of negative sentiment about the war, similar to Vietnam for the USA
what's missing is an organized protest against the war
Putin has been very successful at preventing ANY kind of opposition to him within Russia
from controlling and distorting the media, to outright murder
whoever goes up against Putin, best not miss
it should be noted that it wasn't the Roman people who murdered the tyrant Caesar
it was other politicians in the Roman Senate
et tu Brute?
sadly, however, murdering Caesar, only meant he'd be replaced by other more brutal tyrants
which is likely to be Russia's future as well
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A lot of the Russian mobiks look like they're in their fifties let alone forties.
That may be the heavy drinking making them look older than they are though.
Any disaffected Russian men should really be looking to join the Freedom of Russia Legion,which is now two Battalions strong ( around two thousand men ) .
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I know what the strength of a battalion is (in the USA four companies)
I've served two countries already (USA and Israel) as an enlistee
back when I was "white and fluffy" and VERY young
I also know the looks I'd get from wimmin staring at me in my uniform
so I imagine that today if I wore tight fitting fatigues and a cocky beret in Odesa
coupled with the mystique of being a "foreign fighter"
I could kick back on Arcadia on Saturday night
and even a fossil like me could get some MAJOR action
and that's the sweetest kind, believe me...
you can't blame poor mobniks for the phuque-ups of their leader
no one in Russia is free
no one
everyone is a prisoner there
and everyone learns how to be a "model prisoner"
when Putin is deposed, it won't be because he started a war that killed a lot of Russians
he'll be deposed because he failed to retake Ukraine
Russians are the world's ultimate cynics
but never smart enuff to realize
that the joke's on them
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Any of you guys in the USA going to be in Washington today to welcome President Zelensky ?
I'm sure you know he'll be carrying a Ukrainian flag personally signed by the defenders of Bakhmut yesterday,to be given to the USA as a thank you for your support.
As with Churchills visit to the USA during WW2 this is a pivotal moment in World history...and is huge for all of us,for our children and their children.
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zelensky and his security team took a train from Ukraine to poland
and then flew from Poland to Edwards AFB outside of DC
in the train's first class sleeper car you can fit 4 guys with their Kninkovs stowed in luggage
I wonder if the Ukrainian customs police on board knew it was Zelensky in the sealed cabin
my guess, is that at first no, but once underway they were told after their cellphones were taken away!!
this is EXACTLY howI used to smuggle "stuff" like platinum out of Russia/Ukraine!!!!
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Russians who last week WOULD NOT TAKE MY CALLS
ARE CALLING ME, this week!!!
why?
cuz Putin is stealing their money from their bank accounts!!!
they are being notified that their deposit accounts are being "involuntarily converted" into Russian bonds (that pay over 10% BTW!!)
rather that get their money tied into bonds, many are liquidating their accounts
leading to a short term liquidity crisis for banks
as people are hoarding cash
today, there are withdrawal limits on Russian banks to counter this
Russians are begging me to help them, but I tell them. "I am retired" and have enough bonds, and don't want ANY bonds in ruble denomination, spossiba druzya!
going forward, I see MAJOR financial chaos for Russia in 2023!!!
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That's funny, I could imagine their disarray
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Russia built the Berlin wall
Russia had a very big fall
all of Putin' tanks
and all of Putin's men
won't be able to put Russia back together again
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Ruble down 20%.
Natural Gas price below last December.
Oil trading in the low $80's.
Patriots arriving in Ukraine soon.
Engels airbase hit twice,
Bakhmut holding.
Putler begging North Korea and Iran for weapons.
I don't know how to break this to Russia,but it's not going well for them ..and even rwd123 has gone missing from here..i wonder why ? ;D
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100,000+ casualties, killed, seriously wounded, missing, etc
200,000 middle-aged men mobilized plus new conscription cycle of roughly same amount
400 million USD per day war cost
thousands of tanks, hundreds of aircraft, one major naval vessel
North Stream I and II DESTROYED! multi-billion loss for Russia, major contraction in oil and gas sales and production as well...
russian GDP contracted by 4% this quarter and is expected to drop another 4% next quarter
so by early summer 1/8 of Russia's GDP will have disappeared...
Russia has begun the involuntary conversion of private savings accounts into Russian government bonds causing people to withdraw their savings leading to a banking liquidity crisis
russian manufacturing exports have fallen 30% from a year ago
$60 cap on russian oil
huge surge in USA exporting LNG to replace Russian gas, i.e. USA eats Russia's lunch!!!
there are about 20 MAJOR mysterious fires every week in Russia
shortage of foreign components from car and aircraft parts to computer chips leading to manufacturing slowdown compounded by labor shortage due to mobilization
Russian solution to labor shortage - repeal child labor laws, make labor mandatory, so Russian children can now sing "Volga River Boatman's Song" Acapela while working after school in factories
Russians have travel and currency restrictions and other reduced freedoms as a result of the war
AND...
it's
a
long
way
down
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This is a report from an American reporter who embedded with the AFU on the frontline.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/01/02/trapped-in-the-trenches-in-ukraine
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I hope you're not trying to "guilt-trip" some of us for not "being there"
even though, frankly we should be...
I have been SMART about my military service, both in the USA and Israel when I was young and volunteered to serve in a "technical" unit in both countries
this not only let me serve in a safe, comfortable environment (back then computers needed air conditioned rooms) but also gave me the BEST JOB AND BUSINESS NETWORKING you could ever imagine!!
what you civilians don't realize is that for every front-line soldier who carries a rifle, there's at least 10 whose jobs are to support him, everything from medics to truck engine repair
oh, and IED manufacturers
yes, let's not forget the bomb makers who will bring the thunder to Putin
PS, did you know that explosives are vasodilators? sniff some and watch how your body reacts, after I did this, I threw away all the Viagra I had!! weird!! I had no idea!!
OTOH, maybe it's "just me"
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This is a report from an American reporter who embedded with the AFU on the frontline.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/01/02/trapped-in-the-trenches-in-ukraine
Two questions:
If I join up and am guaranteed a silly nickname right? Right???
And,
Do I get to choose that silly nickname or am I assigned one at random?
On the other hand in a moment of weakness I think I might op for a romance adventure instead. Similar write up but hopefully with explosions in all the right places.
Seriously though I think the article demonstrates that matters of troop loss may not be so different on the Ukrainian side. Is the Foreign Legion & foreigners bearing the brunt of the attacks and taking heavy losses but those losses not being reported as they aren't counted as 'Ukrainians' for that purpose? Are many foreigner fighters on the Ukrainian side leaving of their own accord with few foreigners coming into replace them. Then of course casualties among foreign fighters. I've no doubt Ukrainian forces have fought well and I am sympathetic to their cause, but I've never gotten the feeling that the Ukrainian government have been at all honest about their troop losses. If anything I tend to get the impression that they suppress their true troop loss figures more than the Russians do. I struggle to trust many a government but the Ukrainian government in particular I would be wary off, they've gotten a lot of sympathy because of the aggressive invasion by Russia but I'm just not sure people, journalists, politicians, etc are digging as they should be to hold the Ukrainian government to account and that as with all governments I believe is necessary.
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Most reliable sources have AFU losses at around 50,000.
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your number doesn't include Ukrainian civilians...
contrast that with number of Russian civilians killed...
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Yes, it doesn’t. I believe the government has released estimates of civilian deaths.
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gulf of mexico is far away from Russia
we're just a bunch of nautical speed boat racing enthusiasts
who like carbon fiber speed boats with Kawasiki water cooled inboards
yup, nothing more to see here...
today was a GREAT day for sailing, perfect weather...
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If anything I tend to get the impression that they suppress their true troop loss figures more than the Russians do. I struggle to trust many a government but the Ukrainian government in particular I would be wary off, they've gotten a lot of sympathy because of the aggressive invasion by Russia but I'm just not sure people, journalists, politicians, etc are digging as they should be to hold the Ukrainian government to account and that as with all governments I believe is necessary.
What a load of nonsense.
The last "official " admission of losses by Russia was on 12th October,when Defense Minister Sergie Shoigu claimed that 5,397 Russian soldiers had died in Ukraine.
It's ok honest Sergie....Trench believes you.
And you now claim that the Russian Government is more honest about it's losses than the Ukrainian one...well in that case as the norm is for invaders to lose more troops than defenders at a ratio of 3:1 that would put Ukrainian military deaths at around 1,800 at that time,and yes that would include the foreign fighters.
Happy now ?
Of course with such a relatively low loss amount for their forces one wonders why honest Russia felt the need to mobilize another 300,000 men. :rolleyes:
The same Russian Government who proclaimed they had absolutely no intention of invading Ukraine back in February and that it was all western propaganda,and then a couple of days later invaded Ukraine.
You're not supplementing your income by now working for the Russian propaganda troll factory are you ?
Give your head a wobble FFS.
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What a load of nonsense.
The last "official " admission of losses by Russia was on 12th October,when Defense Minister Sergie Shoigu claimed that 5,397 Russian soldiers had died in Ukraine.
It's ok honest Sergie....Trench believes you.
And you now claim that the Russian Government is more honest about it's losses than the Ukrainian one...well in that case as the norm is for invaders to lose more troops than defenders at a ratio of 3:1 that would put Ukrainian military deaths at around 1,800 at that time,and yes that would include the foreign fighters.
Happy now ?
Of course with such a relatively low loss amount for their forces one wonders why honest Russia felt the need to mobilize another 300,000 men. :rolleyes:
The same Russian Government who proclaimed they had absolutely no intention of invading Ukraine back in February and that it was all western propaganda,and then a couple of days later invaded Ukraine.
You're not supplementing your income by now working for the Russian propaganda troll factory are you ?
Give your head a wobble FFS.
I agree with this US General's estimate of troop losses on both sides:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/more-than-100000-russian-military-casualties-ukraine-top-us-general-2022-11-10/
I said as much in an earlier post a good number of weeks/months before this US General came out and said the same, that I estimated Ukrainian troop losses would amount to around 100,000 men roughly around Christmas. How did I know? Simple, I just took earlier figures of Ukrainian troop losses, those that were stated from Ukrainian troops on the ground, their counting of their losses over certain days/weeks and times them to get rough average monthly losses and times them by the number of months going forward, to December for example.
To my mind taking troop loss numbers to date from troops on the ground is a likely far better and potentially more accurate way to get an idea of troop loss numbers than from the Ukrainian government. The Russian government I know had come out with varying figures depending on who speaks on troop loss figures. The sources that again probably hold more weight are those quoting somewhere in the direction of 100,000 plus troop losses. Anything far below that on either side and I am skeptical.
Even Boe's article that she shared kind of gave an anecdotal account that both sides were losing men all the time. That it wasn't necessarily substantially more in the Russian side while the Ukrainian side had troops that were seemingly immortal/invincible. We have to remember that Zelensky is as much waging a propaganda battle as a real battle. He can't be seen to be doing anything other than beating the odds in order to secure western help. Sure Ukrainian forces are doing well but that is with western aid. We saw how they were starting to fall back in the Donbass/Lugansk before the western Himars arrived and reversed their fortunes and silenced the Russians artillery advantage.
Troop losses are always a question of whether they are lost lives, casualties that can no longer fight, casualties that may return to fight, POW's, deserters, those able to leave, etc. I'm not saying for certain it's around 100,000 killed both sides but I reckon it's somewhere near that in effect. I don't also mean to sound callous in all of this, moreso to the Ukrainians as it is if course them who fight on the ground losing their lives to stop the invaders so they chose to give up/risk their life while others talk of the wider macro issues, ourselves of course included.
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This is an interesting article recently out:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/russia-ukraine-defense-minister-mobilization-putin-war/32202105.html
Think it was always thought Russia would mobilize more troops in January. So will be interesting to see if this comes about, wouldn't surprise me.
I don't think Russia has chewed through the previous 300,000 conscripts already. Some would have plugged the gaps, perished become casualties or flown. Many will have filled previous troop losses, the possibly 100,000 or so. Others we have heard are training in Belarus. I think in general it could be part of a build up of troops over time to potentially vastly outnumber the Ukrainians. Some potentially possibly for further invasions from Belarus and possibly south of Moldova. I tend to see Russia as not particularly concerned with individual Russian troops losing their lives in the war through going in with little or no training but more about eventually throwing large numbers at it in order to overpower their opponent - Ukraine.
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Ukraine losses are rarely published.
"Ukraine’s president would make the total public “when the right moment comes”. Ukraine has been tight-lipped about the number of its military dead and wounded, citing its worry that revealing the total would give Russia a military advantage. The first official total was announced in August when Ukraine’s army chief, Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, said 9,000 had died. The total number of injured has not been stated."
One report back in June:
http://newsreadonline.com/ukraine-lost-about-10000-soldiers-in-war-with-russia-arestovich/
Civilian deaths are estimated here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Civilian_deaths
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Ukraine losses are rarely published.
"Ukraine’s president would make the total public “when the right moment comes”. Ukraine has been tight-lipped about the number of its military dead and wounded, citing its worry that revealing the total would give Russia a military advantage. The first official total was announced in August when Ukraine’s army chief, Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, said 9,000 had died. The total number of injured has not been stated."
One report back in June:
http://newsreadonline.com/ukraine-lost-about-10000-soldiers-in-war-with-russia-arestovich/
Civilian deaths are estimated here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Civilian_deaths
Absolute bs to my mind that just 9,000 had died towards that point in the conflict. Gives a cartoon like impression to the conflict like where a cartoon character gets whamed by something and jumps up little the worse for it and carries on. Those figures I just don't trust, just way to little to be plausible, way of the likely real total.
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Absolute bs to my mind that just 9,000 had died towards that point in the conflict. Gives a cartoon like impression to the conflict like where a cartoon character gets whamed by something and jumps up little the worse for it and carries on. Those figures I just don't trust, just way to little to be plausible, way of the likely real total.
Not quite as BS as Russia's official claim that 5,400 Russian troops had been killed in Ukraine by October though. :rolleyes:
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Not quite as BS as Russia's official claim that 5,400 Russian troops had been killed in Ukraine by October though. :rolleyes:
Seems for a full scale modern warfare that has been running almost a year now surprisingly few troops are dying on either side if these casualty figures are to be believed, incredible indeed!
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I have mentioned before that I enjoy Denys on Telegram for his updates: http://t.me/pilotblog
Another source that I find amusing because his take on the Russian conflict is Misha from Quora. Here's one of his latest answers: http://qr.ae/prvB3n
You can view Misha's profile and read his other responses.
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I have mentioned before that I enjoy Denys on Telegram for his updates: http://t.me/pilotblog
Another source that I find amusing because his take on the Russian conflict is Misha from Quora. Here's one of his latest answers: http://qr.ae/prvB3n
You can view Misha's profile and read his other responses.
Micha quotes approx 2 percent of the young Russian generation currently sent to serve in Ukraine (whatever age bracket that encompasses I assume he is talking broadly which is ok). I feel Micha fails to understand how ruthless Putin is though and all those supporting him in Russia. To me he's the old Soviet style of ruthlessness. Odds are he doesn't care and sees 2 percent of current generation out there no big deal, I think he'll happily go on throwing more and more of whatever generation at it. If we are only talking about 2 percent then that gives Putin many more percent to work through and I think he'll more than readily dig into whatever there is to try and win.
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thus Russia became what Russians were always told Capitalism was like during Soviet times.
murdering not only the truth tellers but the truth as well
while 500 families stole 1/4 of the wealth in Russia and transferred it into offshore accounts
which exhaused the system and it reached the end
after already eating itself completely
with nothing else left to steal
unless you steal it from someone else (who lives nearby)
therefor, this war REALLY is about the existentialist survival of Russia's oligarchy ONLY, with Pootin being the leader of the pack
AND...
importantly, WTF is gonna happen should the Russian oligarchy lose this war, before Russia's presidential election in March, 2024, just 14 months from now
timing...
is everything
blessed are the fuse makers, for they shall bring forth the cleansing fire from heaven
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I feel Micha fails to understand how ruthless Putin is though and all those supporting him in Russia.
Misha is no friend of the Russian leadership. He understands exactly how it functions and behaves. Go through some of his other posts. Many of them are quite entertaining because he writes with a deep cynicism, and that was before this war began.
Here is his profile where you can see his prior posts: http://www.quora.com/profile/Misha-Firer
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The before and aftermath of a HIMAARS strike yesterday on a Russian base in Makiivka,Donetsk region.Apparently a survivor in hospital said there are only 100 survivors of the 600 mobilized Russian troops that were present.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlaS__jX0AIIOZb?format=jpg&name=large)
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The Untold Story of ‘Russiagate’ and the Road to War in Ukraine
http://tinyurl.com/bdxsyv66
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the US wants to help Ukraine win by doing as little as possible in the most risk averse way possible...
this is BY FAR THE MOST EFFECTIVE STRATEGY from a "game" perspective, as in "Theory of Games and Economic behavior" by J. Von Neuman
compare it to the terrible mistakes made by (Ras)Putin
Putin will continue his mistakes, because he's now stuck in a rut in a Ukrainian road
and can't extricate himself
if you created some kinda scoring system, then USA gets 10X leveraging in weapons, meaning every dollar's worth destroys' ten dollar's worth of enemy material
while Russia loses assets, over 100,000 casualties, over 4,000 tanks, hundreds of planes, etc, etc
and USA has
ZERO LOSS
so the war costs Russia TEN TIMES more than USA PER DAY
and Russian economy is 10% of USA's
and the backbone of Russia's economy is rapidly collapsing
being taken over by the USA
and ALL THIS
because of moves that Putin has done
so next month there'sll be yet another mass mobilization in Russia, bigger than the last
and this will play into later "human wave" tactics with counter-fire against HIMARS
butt his will fail spectacularly as well...
cuz of what the computers in Odenton, Maryland are sending to Ukraine from Satellite 326
all that sweet terchnology from Iraq's "Eye in the Sky" repurposed for satellites instead of drones and can track individual soldiers, the flow of supplies, and everything else
and squeeze it into a spreadsheet translated to Ukrainian, encryped with SHA-256 and sent to Ukraine on a secure channel
tracks all movement, and builds a complete picture of enemies positions, updated EVERY 90 minutes
it knows more about the Russians than the Russians even know....
same technology that directed Israel's response to the last Palestinian Rocket festival and knocked out 1/4 of underground bunkers, which took the palestinians years of back breaking work, in just a few days
as Borat would say, "very nice..."
I predicted all this years ago, and of course now that it's ACTUALLY happening, I'm retiring and won't get to work on it directly, or be involved, major disappointment
cuz this is the best Ass Kicking Machine anyone has ever made
Satellite 326 calls out the names of the Russians who are to die that day
and what can the Russians do in return?
ABSOLUTELY FOOKING NOTHING!
they think the problem is cellphones...
it's only 14 months to the Russian presidential election
by then, Russia will have lost about 12% of projected GDP as of Feb 1, 2022
inflation will be about 15%
manufacturing will have declined by 40% and be focused on military and not civilian production
USA is building more and more and more LNG terminals in Europe, now even Germany
and are QUICKLY STEALING Russia's European gas business which WAS the backbone of it's whole economy!!!
Russia will be selling to Europe a tiny fraction of the oil and gas, that it sold back in 2021...
and wherever else it sells, it sells at asteep discount
a HUGE decline in income for Russia
question is, will the rising number of casualties lead to awareness and protests
when EVERYBODY knows SOMEBODY KIA in Putin's folley
two years from now
one of these two things are gonna happen
Putin is no longer President of Russian Federation
or
Putin detonates a nuclear weapon over Ukraine
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Apparently Ukraine's GDP is down 30 percent in the last year although that is apparently better than the 40-50 percent GDP decline predicted. Bakhmut is around 60 percent destroyed.
Petrol pump prices here in the UK are nearly back down to what they were before the start of the war, around £1.50 per litre or gallin can't remember which where it was £1.44 - £1.46 roughly. So way down from the £1.88 or so high whatever it was something like that. So it definitely looks like they are plugging the gap and Russia could lose out big time as a result of that. Good for us bad strategic blunder by Putler for Russia.
Putler is hell bent on reconquering Ukraine and Ukraine won't give up, neither side can afford to give in. Both sides will continue to throw all they've got at this I believe until one side collapses in or the nuclear button is pressed by Putler.
Either way it looks like they are both doing each other over in the process. Neither are likely to be winning as a result it's just unfortunate that Ukraine never picked this fight and they'll likely face the same economic misery as Russia. Though that said many Russians never wanted it either only Putler and a certain percentage of nutters in Russia were apparently up for economic catastrophe.
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russians call the NSA HQ in Odenton, Maryland "Chorny Kub"
this is where Edward Snowden worked
and has the gigantic server racks to process the satellite data and extract all the hidden details and translates the data and "filter it" and send it to Ukrainians every 90 minutes!!
imagine if Hitler had a spy satellite and an AI computer that together not only told him that the allies were gonna attack Normandy on Jun 6, 1944, but also told him how many troops and ships would be involved and gave him the updated positions for each one and once they landed, would still track them and could tell him how much fuel, ammo, etc was being transported and consumed, how many casualties, etc
fortunately,
Hitler had nothing like this
and Russia has NOTHING like this!
only the USA and Israel!!!
this is Putin's main real enemy right now!!
it shredded insurgents in Iraq, devastated Palestinians in the West Bank, and now is fookin up the Russians deployed in Ukraine in a most egregious manner!!!
and each time it gets better, smarter
I don't know what the name of this program is
but I believe I am the first person to publicly connect the dots
BTW, a few months from now, after the offensive, the following bit of news is unlikely to get much notice,
but...
there's gonna be this thing in the news, called "GPT-4"
twenty years from now, this thing will be responsible for the disappearance of about 50% of all current jobs
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the US wants to help Ukraine win by doing as little as possible in the most risk averse way possible...
this is BY FAR THE MOST EFFECTIVE STRATEGY from a "game" perspective, as in "Theory of Games and Economic behavior" by J. Von Neuman
compare it to the terrible mistakes made by (Ras)Putin
Putin will continue his mistakes, because he's now stuck in a rut in a Ukrainian road
and can't extricate himself
if you created some kinda scoring system, then USA gets 10X leveraging in weapons, meaning every dollar's worth destroys' ten dollar's worth of enemy material
while Russia loses assets, over 100,000 casualties, over 4,000 tanks, hundreds of planes, etc, etc
and USA has
ZERO LOSS
so the war costs Russia TEN TIMES more than USA PER DAY
and Russian economy is 10% of USA's
and the backbone of Russia's economy is rapidly collapsing
being taken over by the USA
and ALL THIS
because of moves that Putin has done
so next month there'sll be yet another mass mobilization in Russia, bigger than the last
and this will play into later "human wave" tactics with counter-fire against HIMARS
butt his will fail spectacularly as well...
cuz of what the computers in Odenton, Maryland are sending to Ukraine from Satellite 326
all that sweet terchnology from Iraq's "Eye in the Sky" repurposed for satellites instead of drones and can track individual soldiers, the flow of supplies, and everything else
and squeeze it into a spreadsheet translated to Ukrainian, encryped with SHA-256 and sent to Ukraine on a secure channel
tracks all movement, and builds a complete picture of enemies positions, updated EVERY 90 minutes
it knows more about the Russians than the Russians even know....
same technology that directed Israel's response to the last Palestinian Rocket festival and knocked out 1/4 of underground bunkers, which took the palestinians years of back breaking work, in just a few days
as Borat would say, "very nice..."
I predicted all this years ago, and of course now that it's ACTUALLY happening, I'm retiring and won't get to work on it directly, or be involved, major disappointment
cuz this is the best Ass Kicking Machine anyone has ever made
Satellite 326 calls out the names of the Russians who are to die that day
and what can the Russians do in return?
ABSOLUTELY FOOKING NOTHING!
they think the problem is cellphones...
it's only 14 months to the Russian presidential election
by then, Russia will have lost about 12% of projected GDP as of Feb 1, 2022
inflation will be about 15%
manufacturing will have declined by 40% and be focused on military and not civilian production
USA is building more and more and more LNG terminals in Europe, now even Germany
and are QUICKLY STEALING Russia's European gas business which WAS the backbone of it's whole economy!!!
Russia will be selling to Europe a tiny fraction of the oil and gas, that it sold back in 2021...
and wherever else it sells, it sells at asteep discount
a HUGE decline in income for Russia
question is, will the rising number of casualties lead to awareness and protests
when EVERYBODY knows SOMEBODY KIA in Putin's folley
two years from now
one of these two things are gonna happen
Putin is no longer President of Russian Federation
or
Putin detonates a nuclear weapon over Ukraine
Very good analysis :applaud:
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However good the weapons the West has to throw against Putler he'll keep sending in more men with whatever he's got. Russia is now suckered into this conflict of Putler's choosing and now for both sides there is no way out apart from whoever ends up the victor.
As Krim rightly seems to have pointed out Russia has inadvertently given up the strongest hold they had over Europe with their Oil & Gas. Now that other supplies and methods are being utilized it looks like they have likely buggered themselves for good on that one. That spells long term economic catastrophe for their economy. Added to that the economic decline due to the war and trade sanctions and Russia economic future looks bleak. Russians in the future aren't going to be thanking Putler that's for sure for their economic plight.
It could have been won so easily by Putler but they ended up bungling the Invasion big time with one big strategic mistake after another. Had they cut off the European border invading from Belarus towards Lviv and coming out of Moldova to take up border crossing points they would almost certainly have won by now, after a few weeks most probably. One of the gripes Ukrainian troops still have to this day is a shortage of ammunition & weapons. Had the Russians been clever enough to close the land border Ukrainian troops would have run out of both long ago. I don't wish to see the Russians win but their bungling has landed both them and the Ukrainians in a long bloody war they are now both trapped in with economic & personal misery for both sides unfortunately as a result.
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An interesting article on LNG:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/07/germany-wind-energy-greens/
Appears they are putting them up real quick in Europe/Germany, in about 10 months thereby crushing Europe's dependency on Russia for Gas & Oil. Add to that Gas & Oil output increases and development from elsewhere and Russia's advantage there over Europe has gone.
With the development of Nuclear Fusion and time out from relying upon Russia for Energy, Europe will likely be entirely independent of any energy need from Russia by the time the conflict is over and won't want to know about Russia supplying it with anything now they know the price of that reliance.
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this is a "war of attrition"
all about addition and subtraction
how much equipment can one side continually add to the fight vrs the other side
and how much equipment and people are lost on each side
and whoever has the most points WINS!!!
when I "do the math" I see that what the NATO/Ukraine alliance can throw into the war vrs what the Russia/Iran/North Korea alliance can throw back, favors the western alliance IMMENSELY...
if Putin loses his next two offensives, and the first one is gonna happen within the next 6 weeks, then he has one last decision to make
which WMD to use?
right now, a buncha crazy Russians are "bending Putin's ear"
There's the Novichok group
and there's the Nuke EMP group
which group will Putin promote to the front?
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I don't know what the name of this program is,
but I believe I am the first person to publicly connect the dots.
Actually, Tom Clancy was writing about it 10-20 years ago.
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this is a "war of attrition"
all about addition and subtraction
how much equipment can one side continually add to the fight vrs the other side
and how much equipment and people are lost on each side
and whoever has the most points WINS!!!
when I "do the math" I see that what the NATO/Ukraine alliance can throw into the war vrs what the Russia/Iran/North Korea alliance can throw back, favors the western alliance IMMENSELY...
if Putin loses his next two offensives, and the first one is gonna happen within the next 6 weeks, then he has one last decision to make
which WMD to use?
right now, a buncha crazy Russians are "bending Putin's ear"
There's the Novichok group
and there's the Nuke EMP group
which group will Putin promote to the front?
As I think you correctly stated earlier Krim this war essentially costs the west nothing as in fact they gain. The West particularly the US has vast quantities of military hardware in its army. A lot of that hardware sits around and gets used in phoney war games, training, etc - generally boys toys. At some point that military hardware will become/is becoming obsolete as new stuff is designed. So it's only going to be junked anyway so giving some of it to Ukraine makes little difference. The US in particular has tons of military equipment it will unlikely ever use in real combat. So the cost to the US of donating some stuff it would only junk in the near future us essentially zero.
Russia on the other hand is being run ragged by it all made all the worse by their blunders in Ukraine. I don't see Russia as giving up. Who wins in Ukraine is really down to how far either side is prepared to go and when. Ukraine has to hope on Russia getting so badly busted up that it starts to break up from it all or Putler is replaced to allow for a Russian pull out should Ukraine keep pushing Russian forces back. I personally think it's time to stand clear as an individual as their likely to be slogging it out for some time to come out there with the situation in both countries getting more dire all the while.
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this is a "war of attrition"
all about addition and subtraction
how much equipment can one side continually add to the fight vrs the other side
and how much equipment and people are lost on each side
and whoever has the most points WINS!!!
when I "do the math" I see that what the NATO/Ukraine alliance can throw into the war vrs what the Russia/Iran/North Korea alliance can throw back, favors the western alliance IMMENSELY...
if Putin loses his next two offensives, and the first one is gonna happen within the next 6 weeks, then he has one last decision to make
which WMD to use?
right now, a buncha crazy Russians are "bending Putin's ear"
There's the Novichok group
and there's the Nuke EMP group
which group will Putin promote to the front?
I don't see Russia conducting anything surprising except chemical or nuke, as they have already lost the strategical and tactical initiative.
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In theory if Russia get enough Kalashnikovs & Men together they could potentially overwhelm Ukraine's army by force of numbers. If Russia could eventually field about one million men or something towards that they might do it. Ukraine won't likely be able to bring to bear anywhere near that number. That said I wouldn't necessarily call it a certain road to victory but a possible one.
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"Actually, Tom Clancy was writing about it 10-20 years ago."
NOT what I'm talking about
I'm talking specifically about Ukraine, and a specific American spy satellite that went up just weeks before the Russian invasion, and this satellite composes the "eyes" of this system
the other end, the brain, is on the ground in Maryland
and that's connected to the fists in Ukraine and tells them where to hit
it's a primitive Level I Skynet
it treats war as an abstract game of machines vrs men
so far, it hasn't gone too well for the humans who've been figthin the machines in the different prototype wars, Iraq/Afghanistan, Palestine, Ukraine kinda like the Spanish Civil War and Japanese invasion of China were prototype wars for WWII
I expect over time, as the machines get smarter, and more numerous
it's just gonna get worse and worse for the humans on the battlefield...
so that when the REAL GLOBAL WAR breaks out, this technogy will be a human lawn mower
and Russia is falling further and further behind in this area of technology
comapred to the West...
they need something else to counterbalance against this
nukes won't work, cuz west has nukes to
but west ain't got NO Novichok
and yo mama ain't got no novichok
hirroshi starry nokichok
ya loobit
bad boys!
whatcha gonna do when a cruise missile with novichok comes lookin for YOU!
whoever uses chemical cruise missiles first, will promote its use by others
like say Iran...
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and they'll have FUN, FUN, FUN, til the Americans take their cruise missiles AWAY-YYYYYYY!!!
a stock kh-55 maxed out on over-drive
TOR spoofers wacked UA 752
to slow down the spread of kh-55s
those who did this, know the time of the rude beast slouching towards slumbering Bethleham
is not too far on the horizon
they spilled the blood of innocents to slow him down
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Ideal would be if Russia broke up into smaller pieces. Then in return for the West helping out those poor impoverished Russian states they had to give up all of their nukes. Best case scenario I reckon to the end of this conflict.
Of course that and including visa free access for all westerners ;D
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An interesting piece here:
http://eurasiantimes.com/t-90-tank-ukraine-is-blowing-up-abandoned-russian-tanks-to-score-pr-victory-over-moscow-indian-tankman/?amp
Pro Russian or Impartial?
India has shown some pro-Russian support for Putlers actions. However, India also trades with the West as well as Russia it appears. The article itself is apparently by a retired Indian Colonel though maybe still connected to the Indian Army. I thought an interesting alternative take on things anyway.
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Looks like Bakhmut & Soledar are about to fall after being pounded to bits by Russian Artillery. Looks like the Russians are still managing to get artillery munitions to the front despite the Ukrainians having Himars.
Ukrainians stating that they are constantly in need of more weapons & ammo to hold off the Russians and still too small on that front. Most of their Soviet equipment has been used up and now Ukrainians rely mostly on western weapons supply. Germans are donating some Marders so possibly could ease their situation.
So now to see if Ukraine can counter anywhere. They took back a fair amount of territory in the north but with troop reinforcements on the Russian side regaining further ground may be harder this year.
Two British aid workers missing last seen going towards Soledar so doesn't look like a good start to the new year for them. Looking like they probably had it.
From this source looks like we might be supplying some Challenger MK2 tanks, possibly 10 as things are going looking like they might need it. The Challenger MK2 tanks being replaced by the Challenger MK3 tanks at the moment so getting rid of old stock. Still likely better than the old Soviet gear though:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/eurasiantimes.com/uk-considering-possibility-of-supplying-challenger-2-tanks/
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The AFU disagrees.
http://mobile.twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1613127223384444931/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1613127223384444931¤tTweetUser=wartranslated
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The AFU disagrees.
http://mobile.twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1613127223384444931/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1613127223384444931¤tTweetUser=wartranslated
Boe, thanks for reference.
However, I get message: "Hmm...this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else."
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Apparently Poland has decided to transfer a company of Leopard Tanks to Ukraine.
The UK has announced the intention to supply Ukraine with Tanks.
Germany is going to supply Ukraine with a Patriot Air Defence system.
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100 Ukrainians soon to go to Oklahoma for training to operate and maintain Patriots.
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Well the orcs that gained access to some of Soledar may well be regretting it now.
Latest report from one hour ago.
"Ukrainian artillery has been hitting Russian units in Soledar all day with precision strikes.
Their exposed positions are easy for Ukrainian drone operators to spot ".
This is what happens when you first level an area then try and take it....idiots.
Sounds like a massacre of orcs is occurring in Soledar,lured into a trap by a slight withdrawal of the AFU and highly unlikely they'll be able to hold their positions for very long.
Update : I've just seen an actual video of a Wagner Unit entering the partly walled-garden of a levelled property,just south of the Salt mine in Soledar.They're spotted by a Drone,start a panic-stricken stampede out of the garden,then the artillery hits them leaving a result of a lot of Wagner orcs lying around in bits. >:D
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the flow of money from the gas industry to the Russian government
was as important as the flow of water from the Nile was to ancient Egypt
70% of Russian government revenue WAS the gas industry
BUT NOT ANY MORE!!!!
that gas money river had little canals carved into it, the biggest was the Putin canal, but there are hundreds of others that are siphoning water out of the main river into their own little sub-canals and so-on and so-forth
as of Jan 1, 2023, the water level in the river and canals is down 55% from a year ago!
two of the main inflows that cost BILLIONS to build are gone completely
and it seriously looks like that 2 years from now that flow of gas and money from Europe to Russia will be close to ZERO!!!
and worse of all, it's arch-enemy "AMERIKA" is taking this lucrative gas business away from Russia upon which their government is SO DEPENDENT!!!
while at the same time America's war industry is blowing the kakashka out of the Russian military
with the only consequence being that American defense companies are making record breaking production levels not seen since WWII
while Russia loses hundreds of billions of dollars in war costs through an "involuntary inventory reduction program"
America simply recycles their oldest weapons to Ukraine and replaces them with brand new freshly made ones
as the old weapons rain down upon poor Russian Gopnicks and kills them by the tens of thousands
Americans are safely home in bed
ahhh - the heavy price of victory... what's Lockheed up to now, per share?
the longer Putin does this, the more he loses...
so what does that imply?
that he DOES have a plan to WIN
but to be able to get to a winning state to from where he currently is...
would require a freakin MIRACLE to happen
something BIBLICAL
There is ALREADY a HUGE budget shortfall for this year in Russia and next year because they were based on projected dividends from GazProm which is set by the Russian governemnt to begin with, so they use current income estimate for their budget
dividend? did you say GazProm dividend?
HaHa
maybe a kopec, and NOT a kopec per share, but a kopec TOTAL divided by the number of shares
you want GazProm shares?
just walk outside in Moscow City Center
GazProm shares are those pieces of paper blowing down the street
the "drought"
is also gonna reduce the "special projects" for oligarchs, cause there won't be ANY spare GAZ billions to put into those
no more Sochi hotels, bridge to Krimea, etc....
now that this year's budget and the following ones are ALL SCREWED!!
HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS in the red (appropriate color, no?)
what is Russia to do?
either gobble up their remaining foreign reserves + gold stock pile
or convert all government debt to rubles
and buy as many printing presses as they can
i'm gonna go with the printing press approach
so by end of next year, I see 50-100% inflation in Russia
America has Ju Jitsu economic skills
use your opponents moves against him
while you use minimum force
subdue your opponent and let him tire himself out
until he can't really fight any more
Russians have a myth in Crimea
about two snakes devouring each other simultaneously, each eating the other tail first
which one lives?
which one dies?
you ask yourself this
as you watch the two snakes struggle
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Interesting that Ukraine is being inundated with people from around the world asking to fight for Ukraine...many even offering to pay for the privilege.
However,the Ukrainians are being VERY selective on who they will allow to join their armed forces...saying volunteers need to have particular skills.
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There are daily video updates from the AFU from both Soledar and Bahkmut ...i suspect this is in response to the Russian bot operation going into overdrive desperately trying to proclaim a victory somewhere and making false claims.
The important thing is that both towns are still held by the AFU...as of this morning ;D
I suspect Trench might enjoy the one from Soledar where a rather pleasant young female soldier is giving updates.normally accompanied by fierce-looking male soldiers...she's one of five thousand Ukrainian women fighting on the front,and from the ones i've seen many are absolutely stunning. :P
Frostbite is becoming a real problem,with one soldier having to be evacuated and about to lose all his toes.
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Ukrainian forces have made advances towards Kreminna in recent days,with battles now in the western outskirts.
In the Donetsk region ..the General Staff of the AFU.
"During the past day the Air Force made 20 strikes on enemy concentration areas,as well as three strikes on the positions of it's anti-aircraft systems.
During the past day ,UA soldiers shot down a KA-52 Helicopter,as well as two reconnaissance UAV's of the "Orian -10" type.
Rockets and artillerymen of the Armed Forces hit the enemy control post,7 manpower concentration areas ,and three ammunition depots of the invaders. "
Nice start to the day today...Ukrainian forces downed a Russian SU-25 attack aircraft on the eastern frontline.
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Another video from Solader this morning from Commander "Witch" ( yeah i can imagine she's left a few blokes spellbound in her time ),this time while she's driving around in the town.
"As for the operational situation today ,i must say that the Russian forces have stopped the offensive.Our artillery is working very powerfully today,very effectively.Many people are now falling into a daze about the solidarity,about the flank bypass.If we talk about military science,i want to tell you one thing.Rapid advance of the troops on the flanks makes these flanks very vulnerable.So you don't have to fall into a daze.The front is big and we constantly move 500,000 metres back and forth on the front.
Today some positions have retreated,because we still value the lives of our soldiers.Unlike the Russians ,who simply use Wagner's troops and their units as cannon fodder, our Commanders save the lives of the military.And if there is an opportunity to save ,we will always save it.This must be understood correctly.We do not need a victory at any cost.We need a victory that will be a victory,not just a big loss.
So now we are working very actively,not only in this direction.I can't tell you all the details ,but i want to point out the Armed Forces Of Ukraine can trust them.We hold the defense,we control the situation,we understand what the enemy is doing,how it does it's actions and why it does it,and decisions are made that can block certain actions of the occupation troops.
All i can say is glory to Ukraine ,glory to our nation,glory to our soldiers.Everything will be fine.Sometimes in order to win,you need to play a game of pita."
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According to Euronews, Soledar is littered with the bodies of both Ukrainians & Russians. My guess is that would sound accurate enough of the situation given the intense fighting happening in that area.
It sounds like Russia all along is probably taking greater casualties but it sounds like Ukraine is also taking many casualties as well.
At this point it looks like this may be the scene of things for a while, heavy battles with much of a stalemate situation going on unless one side can bring something extra to bear.
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Chernovoltsev, the head of the NII-2 research facility, was just fired!
so that means, it ain't gonna be Novichok, that Putin will turn into a shovel to dig himself out of the hole he's in
it's gonna be SOMETHING ELSE!!!
and it all points to one THING!!
Putin's calculations over the risk of escalation
are influenced by the fact that he knows that under current conditions, the Russian economy will suffer a major collapse in 2 years IF the war continues...
because of that, he's motivated to take risks
and he STILL thinks he can bluff the west, if he takes it, right to the EDGE
instead of the complete conquest of Ukraine
Rasputin will take a new position, and try to permanently keep his territorial gains in the south and east promote some kind of "truce"
and then rebuild his military for the future
if Ukraine, tries to recapture the territory in the south and east, it will be a war of attrition, Russia has no problem sacrificing gazillions of gopnicks from remote Russian provinces
going forward,
if I were in charge of Ukraine's strategy, instead of spending Ukrainian lives recapturing territory
i'd keep doing what they're doing, attacking logistics (these attacks pay huge dividends)
and just keep Russia "pinned down" for as long as it takes, until their collapsed economy forces them to withdraw
patience is a difficult virtue to muster, when little kids are being killed, but truth is always on the side of that which is most difficult
let the russians exert themselves with "offensives" which thanks to the West, Ukraine will have more knowledge regarding Russian positions and movements than Russian commanders
Ukraine will be a gaint python squeezing the life out of the russian military and economy
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Darth Putin@DarthPutinKGB
Will arrest whole of Russia & send them to Wagner so i can advance at 1km a day & be in Kiev by 2027 with just 8 million casualties.
I remain a master strategist.
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"Will arrest whole of Russia & send them to Wagner so i can advance at 1km a day & be in Kiev by 2027 with just 8 million casualties."
not a joke, this has been going on for YEARS...
just not up to 8 million YET...
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and worse of all, it's arch-enemy "AMERIKA" is taking this lucrative gas business away from Russia upon which their government is SO DEPENDENT!!!
while at the same time America's war industry is blowing the kakashka out of the Russian military
with the only consequence being that American defense companies are making record breaking production levels not seen since WWII
while Russia loses hundreds of billions of dollars in war costs through an "involuntary inventory reduction program"
America simply recycles their oldest weapons to Ukraine and replaces them with brand new freshly made ones
as the old weapons rain down upon poor Russian Gopnicks and kills them by the tens of thousands
Americans are safely home in bed
ahhh - the heavy price of victory... what's Lockheed up to now, per share?
Cunning indeed, I think along with that and the US gaining from it's LNG industry moving into Europe I think they are also likely to gain in another way for their weapons industry. All the weapons being gifted to Ukraine, by the West but particularly by the US is likely to result in a potentially long term customer in the form of Ukraine should it win the war. Post war Ukraine will need to resupply its army and by that point and probably already it will be almost entirely dependant on western armaments.
So the US gifting Patriot missiles to Ukraine today will likely make them want to restock with Patriot missiles at the end of the war. Same with guns, ammunition, tanks, armoured personnel carriers, anti-tank launchers, infantry helmets & armour, artillery, etc, etc. The list is no doubt an extensive one but so we see that the West gifting Ukraine armaments is really like just one big armaments bazaar with many western countries touting for it's future trade. If Ukraine gets hooked on German Leopard Tanks it will put orders in for more if them and of course for parts supply, on anti-tank it may prefer to but NLAW's or maybe instead Javelins or possibly both.
So out go the old Soviet Kalashnikovs, T-72 tanks, artillery, etc and in are bought modern western weaponry. Pretty much all that Soviet gear will have been a spent force by the end of the war anyway. So Ukraine will be hooked on western weapons and will likely be indebted to western finance to pay for it all. After all it will want to keep it's fighting force in good shape after having fought so hard against the Russians to dissuade any further attacks.
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Cunning indeed, I think along with that and the US gaining from it's LNG industry moving into Europe I think they are also likely to gain in another way for their weapons industry. All the weapons being gifted to Ukraine, by the West but particularly by the US is likely to result in a potentially long term customer in the form of Ukraine should it win the war. Post war Ukraine will need to resupply its army and by that point and probably already it will be almost entirely dependant on western armaments.
So the US gifting Patriot missiles to Ukraine today will likely make them want to restock with Patriot missiles at the end of the war. Same with guns, ammunition, tanks, armoured personnel carriers, anti-tank launchers, infantry helmets & armour, artillery, etc, etc. The list is no doubt an extensive one but so we see that the West gifting Ukraine armaments is really like just one big armaments bazaar with many western countries touting for it's future trade. If Ukraine gets hooked on German Leopard Tanks it will put orders in for more if them and of course for parts supply, on anti-tank it may prefer to but NLAW's or maybe instead Javelins or possibly both.
So out go the old Soviet Kalashnikovs, T-72 tanks, artillery, etc and in are bought modern western weaponry. Pretty much all that Soviet gear will have been a spent force by the end of the war anyway. So Ukraine will be hooked on western weapons and will likely be indebted to western finance to pay for it all.
The US doesn't care about weapons sales to Ukraine. It's a non-issue that nobody should spend any time looking at.
After the war, Ukraine is going to need minimal weaponry, and any they do need will be to counter threats from other nations. (Turkey?) They will not need any meaningful amount because of Russia.
After all it will want to keep it's fighting force in good shape after having fought so hard against the Russians to dissuade any further attacks.
There will be no further wars with Russia after this is over. (unless Russia nukes them to smithereens, in which case a fighting force isn't going to make a difference.)
After this war, Russia's only option in the future will be first strikes with nuclear weapons if they go to war.
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Here's an interesting perspective on the Ukraine war. Scroll past the intro to 5:27 to get into the Ukraine war part of the talk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-NQ1xLfc_A
Peter doesn't go into Russian demographics in this presentation, but in other presentations he has done, he said that it was now or never for the Russians. If the Russians waited any longer, they wouldn't have enough young people in the military. Since the Soviet Union fell apart 30 years ago, Russians stopped having kids. They are on the verge of a population implosion. By 2070, Russia's population will be so low Russia will basically cease to exist. (That's assuming they are able to regain Soviet borders before 1989.) If Russia loses the war now, Russia will be gone in 20 years. The Russian state knows they are dying. The war in Ukraine is an attempt to be able to die on their own terms. (Kidnapping all the Ukrainian kids and younger people is an attempt to rebuild the younger Russian demographics.)
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UK now sending these big mother f*ckers to Ukraine:
http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3652802-uk-will-send-as90-selfpropelled-guns-to-ukraine.html
With that kind of gear on the way could it soon all be over in Ukraine for Putler?
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UK now sending these big mother f*ckers to Ukraine:
http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3652802-uk-will-send-as90-selfpropelled-guns-to-ukraine.html
With that kind of gear on the way could it soon all be over in Ukraine for Putler?
You're joking, right? The active front line is 850 kilometers. 30 howitzers and 14 tanks are a tiny drop in the bucket. Ukraine wants 300 tanks, and 700 IFV's.
The US already gave Ukraine over 140 M777 howitzers.
The only reason the UK gave the 14 tanks is to convince Germany to allow Leopard tanks to be given to Ukraine.
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You're joking, right? The active front line is 850 kilometers. 30 howitzers and 14 tanks are a tiny drop in the bucket. Ukraine wants 300 tanks, and 700 IFV's.
The US already gave Ukraine over 140 M777 howitzers.
The only reason the UK gave the 14 tanks is to convince Germany to allow Leopard tanks to be given to Ukraine.
Not any old tanks but good quality British tanks Bee Farmer, they'll be worth many times their number ;)
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You're joking, right? The active front line is 850 kilometers. 30 howitzers and 14 tanks are a tiny drop in the bucket. Ukraine wants 300 tanks, and 700 IFV's.
The US already gave Ukraine over 140 M777 howitzers.
The only reason the UK gave the 14 tanks is to convince Germany to allow Leopard tanks to be given to Ukraine.
The only time a Challenger 2 Tank has been destroyed during operations was by another Challenger 2 Tank in a friendly fire incident at Basra in 2003,when the destroyed Tank had it's hatch open.
It has seen operational service in Bosnia & Herzegovina,Kosovo and Iraq.
The Russian Tank crews will be sh*tting themselves.
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Not any old tanks but good quality British tanks Bee Farmer, they'll be worth many times their number ;)
How many times their number?
How many thousand tanks do the Russians have?
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The only time a Challenger 2 Tank has been destroyed during operations was by another Challenger 2 Tank in a friendly fire incident at Basra in 2003,when the destroyed Tank had it's hatch open.
It has seen operational service in Bosnia & Herzegovina,Kosovo and Iraq.
The Russian Tank crews will be sh*tting themselves.
Very few will be. Why? Because there are only 14. Most Russian tank crews will never see a Challenger 2. The front line is too long. 14 tanks can't be everywhere at once. Keep in mind that Zaluzhny said he could defeat the Russians if he had 300 Western tanks, and 700 IFV's.
14 tanks is less than 5% of what a competent general said is needed. You're delusional if you think that 14 tanks is going to win the war. It's a great tank, yes. But 14 is still less than 5% of what is needed.
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Very few will be. Why? Because there are only 14. Most Russian tank crews will never see a Challenger 2. The front line is too long. 14 tanks can't be everywhere at once. Keep in mind that Zaluzhny said he could defeat the Russians if he had 300 Western tanks, and 700 IFV's.
14 tanks is less than 5% of what a competent general said is needed. You're delusional if you think that 14 tanks is going to win the war. It's a great tank, yes. But 14 is still less than 5% of what is needed.
You're forgetting about the German Nazi Panzer tanks being sent also ;D
Them combined will no doubt be a formidable force on the battlefield.
To be honest it's probably more about Ukraine holding their own but who knows. My guess is that the west are happy to prolong this conflict as they know good things will likely come as a result of doing so. Knocking back the Russian Invasion now could lead to a bruised and agitated Russia that could just come back later harbouring grudges. If the west drip feed Ukraine modern western weaponry and prolong the conflict till the Russians are exhausted and bankrupt then they can get rid of Russia as a threat permanently.
Anyhow it looks like the Challenger tanks being sent will be facing off against this gear:
http://defence-blog.com/russian-army-receives-new-batch-of-t-90m-tanks/
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too bad the confederate air force lost their B-17 last month
they coulda given it to Ukraine along with the British tanks!!!
what better way to say
that we stand shoulder to shoulder, heart to heart with Ukraine
don't be worried Tovarische!!
the "Shaman" he who casts NO SHADOW
the architect of the Kerch Bridge Bombing
is at this VERY MOMENT
somewhere in the Russian Far East
FREEZING HIS JHOPPA OFF!!!! it's SO freaking COLD!!
but it'll be worth it!!!
oh, and.... ummmm, short Chinese oil and gas stocks
PAKA!!
Volshebnick of Vilnius
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How many thousand tanks do the Russians have?
3118 less than they had on February 23rd. >:D
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Very few will be. Why? Because there are only 14. Most Russian tank crews will never see a Challenger 2. The front line is too long. 14 tanks can't be everywhere at once. Keep in mind that Zaluzhny said he could defeat the Russians if he had 300 Western tanks, and 700 IFV's.
14 tanks is less than 5% of what a competent general said is needed. You're delusional if you think that 14 tanks is going to win the war. It's a great tank, yes. But 14 is still less than 5% of what is needed.
Ukraine has asked for 300 western tanks because they'd rather like to finish the war in less than a month.
I4 Challenger Tanks will take considerably longer,but the Russian Tank crews will still be sh*tting themselves,because they will never know what lurks around every corner waiting to obliterate them.
Just imagine every day the Russian Tank Commanders tell their crews to advance "Da Da " the crews say,until they get round their first corner and there it is facing them "Challenger 2 " they scream " Niet Niet "..then oblivion. >:D
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Prigozhin will replace Putin next year
and purge 90% of the oligarchs
and claim THEY stabbed Putin in the back
and THIS is why Russia lost
Et Tu Navalny?
Bardakistan Airlines
Wagner - Flight of the Valkeries on golden shields to Valhalla
hard to believe, but next year, Russia is gonna suck EVEN more than this year...
depressing reality
the conduct of the presidential election this summer will tell you what's coming down the Ulitsa next year in Rossiya
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How Russia will have declined as a nation having Prigozhin as their President
He spent nine years in Prison as a bitch.
The lowest of the low in Russian prison culture.
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My guess is that the west are happy to prolong this conflict as they know good things will likely come as a result of doing so.
The west is not doing this in the hopes of good things. Good things aren't going to come.
The west is helping Ukraine because if they do not, VERY BAD things happen.
Russia is trying to plug geographical gaps where they have been invaded before, so they can create a better defended border. Ukraine is not the goal. Ukraine is a stepping stone.
Russia wants the Bessarabian Gap in Romania. It wants the Polish Gap. It wants the Baltic countries so the Baltic Sea is their border.
That means there will be a direct fight with NATO. NATO knows that Russia doesn't stand a chance in a conventional war. The Russian army will get annhilated. That means Russia's only option is to start nuking European cities.
Knocking back the Russian Invasion now could lead to a bruised and agitated Russia that could just come back later harbouring grudges.
Russia CAN'T come back later. It is now or never for Russia. When the Soviet Union fell apart, Russians stopped having kids. There aren't enough young people to have an army big enough in the future. Why do you think they are drafting 50 year old guys now? Or kidnapping Ukrainian kids? (trying to rebuild their population)
If the west drip feed Ukraine modern western weaponry and prolong the conflict till the Russians are exhausted and bankrupt then they can get rid of Russia as a threat permanently.
Russia is dying off from old age. By 2070 there won't be enough people to be a country.
Russia knows it is dying. The question is if they go away now, or if they go away in 50 years.
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remember Yanukovich Pro Russian President of Ukraine, ousted after Maidan?
he went to prison for robbing and beating women, and was also part of the Donetsk Mafiya after prison...google it!
a good strategy is to send them Ukrainians a small amount of a VARIETY of weapons and see what the "kill rates" are for for each type
kill rate is weapon results plus training, plus deployment all summed together
divided by "cost per unit"
and convert this data into some kinda "cost justification" value for each category
I propse the "DeadRussiansPerDollar" (DRPD Index)
Once you create this sorted list of DRPD values, from then on if you want to maximize the DRPD, you spend as much money as you can on #1 of the list
The problem of course, is you can't put all of your "eggs in one basket" you can't just ONLY fire HI-MARS!!
so, instead, and this next part becomes surreal, you gotta use "linear programming"
a technique developed by Soviet Mathematics to optimize the conversion of raw materials to products
in essence, the math behind a "centralized planned economy"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_programming
this is how you optimize your military "budget"
weird, how ideas resonate with other similar nearby ideas of the same frequency
like a warehouse full of tuning forks.....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Putin's plan
get the republican "FreeDumb Caucus" to cause America to default on it's debt, due to not expanding the debt ceiling
this will cause economic chaos throughout the world
George Santos is a Russian plant and not George Soros (see the difference?)
one of Rand Paul's relatives was just convicted for illegally funneling Russian money to Trump's campaign (google both of these)
google Oleg Deripask'as close political association with these and other kentucy politicins plus Trump lifting sanctions from him, and then read of Deripaska's connections to Paul Manafort
neurotic Amerika will hang itself
and Russians will create the tweet that talks them into it
so thinketh Putin
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I highly doubt Prigozhin will replace Putin. He is not part of that "inner circle".
A long time ago, I wrote about Yanukovych. I also said when he first appeared on the scene, that despite claiming to be a custodian, Medvedev was former KGB. I also posted, contemporaneous with it occurring, that the Moscow apartment bombing, which lead to the second Chechen war, was an FSB plot, and not the work of Chechens.
I believe the apartment bombing has now been linked to the Putin government. I don't know if Medvedev's past has been confirmed. You can be certain Yanukovych worked for the KGB. Common criminals didn't have their records sealed, or get to travel abroad in Soviet times.
I asked my husband, who survived without arrest, despite being surrounded by informants, and a cat and mouse game with the KGB for about six years. I asked him about Yanukovych's record. His response (in part) -
Yanukovych allegedly served time for sexual assault in the 1960's. The article of the Soviet criminal code for which an individual was convicted was emblazoned across his prison uniform. I can guarantee you, Soviet criminals convicted of rape did not last in Soviet prisons. In the late 1970's or early 1980's, the USSR started to put sex offenders in separate prisons, because they were killed, usually within a week of landing in a prison. Nevertheless, according to a prosecutor looking into his record, he was convicted of robbery, not rape -
http://www.rg.ru/2005/07/13/yanukovich.html (http://www.rg.ru/2005/07/13/yanukovich.html)
Yanukovych went abroad in the 1970's, which means that his family records to before the Revolution were reviewed by the KGB, and he was deemed an "honourable member of the proletariat". It was extremely unusual for Soviet citizens to travel to the West then, let alone someone convicted of a crime.
ETA - Later, he told me "The USSR collapses. A guy in Donetsk uses force to collect a fortune, buy a football team, and builds a sports arena. He goes to a game, surrounded by bodyguards, and sits to watch a football match. All of a sudden, he is blown up, together with hundreds of innocent spectators. Shortly after that, Akhmetov steps into the vacuum. And who happened to be at that match?
Obscure people will point to Yanukovych's criminal record and shout 'Tut tut', without looking at the whole picture. Look at information that is being released today from the East (he means Eastern Ukraine). It is not a coincidence that information from 2 decades ago is slowly making its way into the press now.
Everything points to Yanukovych being a former member of the KGB."
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Prigozhin is a Tambov
some of Putin's friends from the old days are Tambovs, and remember where Putin's from...
but not all Putin's friends are Tambovs
some are Solntsevskaya Bratva down in Moscva
so it's gonna be a turf war folks
fight club for oligarch's
WINNERS TAKE ALL!!!
http://charter97.org/en/news/2022/12/27/529829/
what better way than to pick some surrogate named Tambov for a key post when it all "goes down"!!! LOL
and this guy looks like a "pillar of integrity"
and I'm sure there's a good reason why Putin's chef is appointing a Tambov (literally) as leader of the Western Miltary District
maybe he's some high minded altruist, protecting the public's safety
then again, maybe NOT!!! LOL!!!
but it's looking like
it's gonna be Tambovs vrs Moscva blatnoys next year
the snake will grab it's own tail and start eating it
blatnoys ain't pridorki though
there will be BLOOD
PS
Dear State Department:
"n July 2022, the U.S. State Department offered a reward of up to $10 million for information about Prigozhin, the Internet Research Agency, and other entities involved in 2016 U.S. election interference.
what?
state department
WTF were you when I was in jail in Honduras back in '88, I got myself out- thanks for nothing!
I'll give you everything you want about Prigozhin, Internet Research Agency, etc
hopefully you all in "state" recognize that Prigozhin has talent from "Blue Orchid"
ask your neighbors in "customs" and "secret service" about the blue orchid case
and who it was who tipped them off with a letter - go ahead ask them - I gave them a career making case
and I can do the same for you
but immunity + 20 million, no measly 10, and I can go back to work for them, after this is all over, if I so choose
that's my deal, take it, or stay a grade 12 the rest of your career
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The west is not doing this in the hopes of good things. Good things aren't going to come.
The west is helping Ukraine because if they do not, VERY BAD things happen.
Russia is trying to plug geographical gaps where they have been invaded before, so they can create a better defended border. Ukraine is not the goal. Ukraine is a stepping stone.
Russia wants the Bessarabian Gap in Romania. It wants the Polish Gap. It wants the Baltic countries so the Baltic Sea is their border.
That means there will be a direct fight with NATO. NATO knows that Russia doesn't stand a chance in a conventional war. The Russian army will get annhilated. That means Russia's only option is to start nuking European cities.
Russia CAN'T come back later. It is now or never for Russia. When the Soviet Union fell apart, Russians stopped having kids. There aren't enough young people to have an army big enough in the future. Why do you think they are drafting 50 year old guys now? Or kidnapping Ukrainian kids? (trying to rebuild their population)
Russia is dying off from old age. By 2070 there won't be enough people to be a country.
Russia knows it is dying. The question is if they go away now, or if they go away in 50 years.
You have just shown your IW falls somewhat below mine Bee Farmer ;)
Russia is not interested in geographical gaps at least not ones that it would contemplate using nukes to deal with. Russia does it want to use nukes against NATO countries as it knows NATO will have no other option but to return in kind.
Russia is hoping to pick off non-Nato countries as they are the easiest targets and even then they are struggling. If Ukraine fell it would then likely be Moldova then probably Georgia then probably the Stan's. That would likely satisfy Putler he would be getting on then so likely looking to retire knowing that he has pieced most of the Russian Empire/FSU back together again.
The West know that this domino effect is in play and want to stop it happening in Ukraine from Russia becoming an even bigger threat. As Krim has shown they have maneuvered the situation to their economic advantage. Now they have Russia in a position where they are stuck and exhausting themselves. The West aren't going to want to let Russia out of that strangle hold not by not giving Ukraine any more aid and not by giving Ukraine so much aid that they win against Russia before Russia is exhausted.
Another reason not to give Ukraine the means to finish Russia of now of course is that the West doesn't want to take the illusion of a possibility of a conventional military victory from Russia so soon. If it does then there is a greater possibility of Russia seeing it as themselves having to be forced to use unconventional means against Ukraine. Better instead to have Russia exhausted, bankrupt and on the verge of breaking up. That way they have Russia completely at their knees begging for an end to it all rather than a wounded beast seeking revenge.
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You have just shown your IW falls somewhat below mine Bee Farmer ;)
Russia is not interested in geographical gaps at least not ones that it would contemplate using nukes to deal with. Russia does it want to use nukes against NATO countries as it knows NATO will have no other option but to return in kind.
Russia is hoping to pick off non-Nato countries as they are the easiest targets and even then they are struggling. If Ukraine fell it would then likely be Moldova then probably Georgia then probably the Stan's. That would likely satisfy Putler he would be getting on then so likely looking to retire knowing that he has pieced most of the Russian Empire/FSU back together again.
The West know that this domino effect is in play and want to stop it happening in Ukraine from Russia becoming an even bigger threat. As Krim has shown they have maneuvered the situation to their economic advantage. Now they have Russia in a position where they are stuck and exhausting themselves. The West aren't going to want to let Russia out of that strangle hold not by not giving Ukraine any more aid and not by giving Ukraine so much aid that they win against Russia before Russia is exhausted.
Another reason not to give Ukraine the means to finish Russia of now of course is that the West doesn't want to take the illusion of a possibility of a conventional military victory from Russia so soon. If it does then there is a greater possibility of Russia seeing it as themselves having to be forced to use unconventional means against Ukraine. Better instead to have Russia exhausted, bankrupt and on the verge of breaking up. That way they have Russia completely at their knees begging for an end to it all rather than a wounded beast seeking revenge.
Explain this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDxJqgjalr0
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Explain this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDxJqgjalr0
Is that where to you're getting your info from Bee Farmer some so called 'expert', you might as well listen to the resident forum expert here ;D
Most of Europe has an aging population issue, I would say made much worse by feminism in western Europe and less state support in the case of the FSU. Birth rate however goes up and down over time. I would say this guy is overcooking the issue to push out his theory.
Russia has no interest in attacking Poland. Poland is a part of NATO and the Russians know even if Ukraine falls their army would not be good enough to take on NATO forces. Beside that if Putin went to Nukes over Poland so would we. It would simply be a case that we kicked his ass out of Poland and an armistice would be signed. Putin is NOT going to go for NATO countries their are much easier prey to be had, Moldova, Georgia, the Stan's, etc.
Even if the argument were true about the low population issue Putin knows that he doesn't stand any hope of taking these 'gaps', strategic points, etc. His economy is going south now so is his military he won't be able to take on NATO it's not even on the cards. He bungled the Ukrainian invasion and his forces got shown up as inadequate against an army not equipped to NATO standards. His army would be destroyed like it was in a shooting gallery if it went up against NATO, the thought of the matter is laughable!
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Peter Zeihan, is a paid commercial analyst, who is able to make a living by "scraping the web" either with a program or with an intern, from sources like twitter,facebook etc and organizing them and summarizing them, he does this without EVER having to visit there
this is the "other thing" that YOU DON'T GET!
there is just no substitute for GOING THERE...
and BEING THERE
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Looks like Europe is gearing up for a war with Russia,
The head of the European Council,Charles Michel ,predicted that the next 2-3 weeks would be decisive in the war in Ukraine ,and that "they will largely determine our future " .
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maybe...
it depends...
Wagner has only a VERY short time left to DELIVER SOMETHING
otherwise
Putin will have the same decision to make that the Kaiser made in 1915 at Ypres
but because dumb ass Russians ALWAYS play the "Nuclear Threat" Card
that when they REALLY want to DO IT!
they can't just send some subltle signal
it has to be BIG
at the same time, there's no way to avoid telegraphing to the USA that things are gonna go this way...
USA will know what missile and from where it will be firing BEFORE it's even fired
whereever in Russia it's launched from will be TOAST xtra crispy
Putin needs to be convinced that escalating the war this way will COST HIM FAR MORE than he can imagine
NATO will have to do a major escalation as well
OTOH, Putin is likely to go all in and say look MFers
each of these freaking Satan Ballistic Missile has an EMP warhead bigger than the Tsar Bomba
and it'd only take just one to blow North America back to 1830....
and I'd show it on the silo launchpad
then...
Putin skazal, "you Westerners don't know about EMP Weapons, but we Russians DO"
but don't worry...
I just launched three that are about 10% that size
and they will be detonating over the territory of these so called Ukrainian Fascists in less than 30 seconds
when they do, every piece of Western Military technology will be worthless unless you can throw it at someone
then the drunken, horny soldiers will be turned loose, and after they slaughter the "so called Ukrainians"
let them have their women in usual Russian fashion...
this is what vicory looks like to Russian dumb asses now...
when you think about HOW CLOSE they came to usurping Ukraine's national destiny
by covertly interfering in Ukraine's elections....
if Russia coulda rolled the clock back to making Regions popular again in Ukraine (or a new fake party)
they could've pretty much just bribed their way to get 75% of what they wanted in Ukraine
but NO...
THEY wanted to be the ones to GET the bribes
and not PAY them....
and to do that you gotta grab the whole enchilada for yourself
and bitchslap the poor Mexican kid who was trying to sell it to you
pagarte?
sal de aquí!!!
it's a tough world folks
where ONLY the tough thrive let alone survive
still the issue about "the offensive" from either side
the usual "late winter" timing issues weather influencing mobility, etc
we do KNOW that IF Russia launches an offensive, the USA will know exactly how many, where, when...
and Ukrainans will be freakin slaughtering them
Israel just allowed the transfer of the USA's "pre-positioned" inventory of military "consumables" like 155mm artillery shells from Israel
the kinds with proximity fuses
plus Israel will throw in some of their own
in view of what's happening in the middle-east, I wonder what changed Israel's mind
that they are willing to decrease their own security and allow this transfer to Ukraine
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Looks like Europe is gearing up for a war with Russia,
The head of the European Council,Charles Michel ,predicted that the next 2-3 weeks would be decisive in the war in Ukraine ,and that "they will largely determine our future " .
I doubt that, Germany is dragging its feet on allowing other countries license for them to send their Leopard Tanks to Ukraine. Sholtz & his government aren't wanting to get that involved. France is a long way from the action as I don't think to bothered about it all. The EU itself while seemingly somewhat sympathetic to Ukraine I personally think doesn't have the military leadership and has other issues. I don't think they are looking to put themselves against Russia directly.
That leaves NATO led mainly by the US. On that front I don't think they are looking to engage Russia in conflict, there's no military build up on a scale that would suggest that.
In general I think the view of the West is that they are happy for Russia to slog it out and exhaust themselves. In general the Russians are becoming weaker as a result of this war and the West stronger. Already it has shown that Russia who were once seen as powerful is not so much so. Going to war with them could play into their hands by justifying the need/use of chemical & mass destruction weapons. At the moment the West has Russia where they want them. Russia is unhappily locked into a war of its own choosing and losing out all they way, so no need to upset that now ;)
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Looks like Europe is gearing up for a war with Russia,
The head of the European Council,Charles Michel ,predicted that the next 2-3 weeks would be decisive in the war in Ukraine ,and that "they will largely determine our future " .
I interpreted the statement to mean that EU countries will bring forward substantial increases in assistance and arms.
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I doubt that, Germany is dragging its feet on allowing other countries license for them to send their Leopard Tanks to Ukraine. Sholtz & his government aren't wanting to get that involved.
Germany has a history and wishes to balance their actions accordingly, not acting unilaterally, which places its role as an aggressor state. Poland asked for permission, and rather than approve, Germany stated they would not object. A subtle but essential difference in their POV. Poland is being more subtle by insisting on permission, so their stance might also be a veiled form of reticence with acting alone.
Germany has already committed to providing training with the Leopard and is surveying their inventory so they are prepared when the political situation is settled. IMO they will act and provide tanks participating as part of a coalition.
The US throwing in Abrams tanks is not practical at this time due to its complexity, fuel, lengthy training, and high maintenance requirements, mainly regarding the turbine engine it uses. The US has already or will start training on the Abrams, which may come into play later. There are still some classified aspects with the Abrams so that plays a role as well. Wouldn't want to lose one or have one break down near the front. The standard firing range of both Leopard and Abrams is only around 3 miles, so they are effective only close to the front lines.
I'm confident UA will get Leopards when a coalition is present.
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Yesterday Ukraine's Foreign Minister was interviewed on the BBC News Hardtalk program. A big clanger he made was admitting that the level of economic support (at present) was not enough to support Ukraine's economy. Despite that he didn't agree that Ukraine's economy would collapse.
I personally think Ukraine can go on sometime with it's economy failing but that in the end it could become a real issue for it perhaps moreso than what is happening on the front line. Russia too is likely to suffer badly economically but is really a case of seeing she can gote distance there before economic collapse and break up. For all the military rhetoric I can see this war more likely ending up being concluded on an economic victory/defeat of either or both nations.
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I interpreted the statement to mean that EU countries will bring forward substantial increases in assistance and arms.
How would that determine our future ?
In any event, the much-wanted Leopard Tanks are still not being transferred to Ukraine,after weeks of being asked for them,which suggests the countries who have them are keeping them for a reason ?
Maybe these countries prefer to wait until the wolves are at the door,rather than trying to destroy them before they reach their doors.
Germany needs to wake up,because the Chechens have already stated that ,unless Putin says no,they won't stop until they reach Berlin.
I doubt German forces will be able to hold back the horde...or maybe they're relying on NATO ( the USA ) to save them.
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According to the ru media,out of the 50,000 + prisoners recruited by Prigozhin for PMC Wagner,only 10,000 are still fighting in Ukraine.
The rest were killed,wounded,missing,surrendered or deserted with weapons in their hands,including to Russia.
Sounds like anarchy in the Russian Fed is looming. >:D
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Ukraine's Deputy Defence Minister has now been hauled up on corruption charges. I kind of expected this from the start of the war and I know said as much on here that there are no assurances that money given would necessarily get to where it was supposed to go. Perhaps it's at least something that Ukraine are trying to bring some of these people to book. It's a form of utmost stupidly I think to risk illegally taking when doing so may undermine Ukraine's war effort and lead to defeat. Then those idiots who did so may end up on the sharp end as a result of their own greed. I think unfortunately on that front Ukraine is as bad a Russia for endemic corruption. Zelensky has vowed to stamp it out and as lofty goal as it appears I hope he does though history tends to suggest he is up against it on that one.
At the moment it's looking like Ukraine is going to get more T-72's from countries around Europe than Leopard Tanks. Possibly Germany fears triggering a full scale war if giving the green light to their use while counties such as Poland who would give them probably feel hamstrung without a legal green light on the issue from Germany. News was that they approved the transfer of six tanks to Ukraine but I'm not sure if that was actually correct, possibly still no tanks approved by Germany for transfer/use.
That just leaves the 12 or so Challenger Tanks from the UK as the only Modern Tanks for Ukraine to use unless Germany changes it's stance. Russia is getting some new T-90's through so it could make it even Stevens, we'll see. Looks like a big tank battle could be in the offing this spring so we'll see how they perform.
One possible issue with the Challenger and possibly Leopard tanks are that they are a lot heavier than the Soviet tanks. That means that weather dependent they may be stuck to road/town/city usage.
Looks like by the time training/tanks arrival for both sides are complete will probably be early spring so things could heat up a fair bit then around late March/early April time perhaps.
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Yes,corruption and deceit has always been a huge issue in Ukraine,as it is in Russia.
They are very similar people really with many marriages between the two countries,which makes it astonishing the Russians decided to invade the country of their "brothers and sisters " and cause such death and destruction.
Anyway,it seems someone read my post of earlier today...again,because according to Reuters 23 minutes ago,Germany has now decided to send Leopard Tanks to Ukraine ,and will allow other countries such as Poland to do so.
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During our morning walk (in Mall because it is cold outside) wife and I talked about current corrupt officials in Ukraine.
She is quite upset about it, and even surprised, as she thought for sure everyone would be 'pulling together' during this war.
I told her I hoped Ukraine would suspend the embargo on capital punishment and execute anyone involved in such activity.
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back in the ole czarist days, Russians didn't want an income tax to fund the government, cuz the Romanov's woulda paid half the income taxes themselves, and the remainder of Russia's aristocracy most of the the rest...
clearly an oligarchy is not gonna wanna tax itself, and intead will try and figure out a way to extract it "from the masses"
serfs owned nothing, earned nothing...
only free laborers, crafstmen, etc did....
kinda hard to tax ZERO!!
so the Czar made alchohol a state monopoly, with draconian penalties for any would dare defy him, to clandestinely bootleg on the sly
he could hand out liquor production and retail licenses to his friends, who gave a % of the money to operate the state, and a percentage to the czar, and a percentage for themselves
a quaint Russian custom that persists to this day
a perpetual motion oligarchy
as dumb ass Russians, depressed about their miserable lives...
will go get sheeet-faced drunk
and end up funding the system that drove them to drink in the first place....
nothing's changed in Russia
they're still a buncha dumb-asses singing the "Volga River Boatman's Song"
as they drag ammo barges down the Volga
only thing dumber than a big mass of Russians, is a big mass of OLD Russians! mix two parts stupidity and three of ignorance and shake briskly until it fizzes over!
nasdorovia tovarische!
ahhh BURP!
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Krim, how did you let your daughters marry into what you are describing re Russians?
What sort of grandchildren will be produced ?
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dumb ass Russians are no better or worse than dumb ass Americans
both are VERY common in their respective habitats
I have MUCH more in common with SMART Russians who HATE Putin
than I do with dumb ass Americans who LOVE him for his anti-wokeness rhetoric
Floridians who sponsor Republican plans to raise the minimum retirement age to age 70
to balance cutting corporate taxes by 50%
are proposing reducing social security spending by 23% by raising the MINIMUM age limit to 70, instead of 65 and then 67 past/current ages
however, these people feel their biggest enemies are drag queens and gay hair dressers
instead of the republians planning on robbing them
i.e. Dumb Asses...
and I sure as hell, wouldn't want to have grandchildren from this kind of "stock"
no thank you
my future grand children's fathers are some pretty serious Russian dewds
and I will likely have some decent "talent" to start trainin in a few years like I did with my daughters
if Russia/Ukraine reopens, I will have a pretty good mixed American/Russian crew who are ALL RELATED and READY TO MAKE oichen manoga kapusta $$$$$!!!!
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Krim, how did you let your daughters marry into what you are describing re Russians?
What sort of grandchildren will be produced ?
Haven't you heard, Krim's daughters husbands moonlight as computer geeks whilst being male models ;D
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my future grand children's fathers are some pretty serious Russian dewds
and I will likely have some decent "talent" to start trainin in a few years like I did with my daughters
if Russia/Ukraine reopens, I will have a pretty good mixed American/Russian crew who are ALL RELATED and READY TO MAKE oichen manoga kapusta $$$$$!!!!
Any room for a British dude in this mix :D
Seriously though Krim I would be interested to hear your views on whether a post war Ukraine will be less corrupt than it has been? A future place to do business perhaps?
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you're TOO late Trench...
and you'll be my age when my future grandchildren are legally datable, unless you're Prince Andrew
oldest with her super model husband, really, really poor quality pics...
and I also have another pair who are in Israel at the moment, and after graduation will be headed back to the USA in 6 more months...
so I went from being
1 American
then 1 captured a Ukrainian girl and brought her back to the USA as my captive
where she performed many forms of labor without pay (i.e. "white slavery)
then I gave my white slave, no choice but to bear her master 2 children, and those two went on to capture two more Russians, and bring them over like I did!
next my daughters will breed the two Russians
and make a whole batch of new American Russians jsut like them same way I did, but twice as many!!!
and they are ALL GONNA BE MINE!!!!!
AH-HAHAHA!!!!
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LOL!
Great looking couple. I think you should continue ue on breeding the Master Race.
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danke shein! danke shein!
the thing Bee Fahmer types don't get, if you're the type of dad that has a REAL TIGHT bond with your kids, there's NOTHING you value more than that, nothing, especially NOT money, the FEELING YOU GET from their love for you is WAY beyond anything money could ever POSSIBLY buy you...
I bet he never felt that way about his Dad, and it sure looks like there ain't gonna be a kid lookin at him like that in the future.
but,
OTOH...
you spendin some $$$ on your kids, ain't a bad idea, it has positive benefits for both parties
I have earned gratitude from MANY women in my life
by the simple process of merely being VERY generous with them...
and not requiring anything in return...
OTOH, I have when single, used that SAME approach the way a smart predator knows how to lure children with "presents"
and lure them into a trap about being a smart girl or a dumb girl
In Ukraine,
a smart girl, working as an executive assistant, for a fixed wage of under $1,000/month + clothing and travel allowance, will after first clothes and paycheck, get what I called...
THE BIG MONEY BURN!!
after that, you start turning up the intimacy dial, they have to come over to your residence and spend all day with you on work, and then you take them out for meals, or have meals brought in
from there, you move on to you taking a shower when you're there
then her doing the same
ideally cuz you're going to a bania, and yur gonna get nekked with her
which just makes "everything else" so much easier after that
otherwise that'll take you at LEAST another TWO WHOLE WEEKS to get to that same point (on average)
and the sexual tension just keeps building and building
until it "breaks"
this is the kinda life that a "man with a plan" can live in Ukraine!
I've lived it, and I met other Americans who lived it even better than I did, MUCH better!
with just freakin amazing women and making amazing $$$ at the same time...
at the end of the day when you hold her in your arms as you sleep
and you think about where you are, and the woman laying next to you, and the kinda crap you're gonna buy
you feel like you're on top of the freakin world!
ahhh - the folly of youth!
Trench, corruption is endemic in Ukraine, it will ALWAYS exist, WWII didn't make it better and neither will this war...
most forms of petty corruption in Ukraine are just hiden cost factors that you plug into your calculations just like other cost factors, and so don't really matter, just annoying...
usually, Ukrainian cost factors are SO LOW, that having a 20% corruption tax is no big deal
in USA you get extorted at tax time, in Ukraine the extortion is whenever you need some piece of paper from the government so you can go to the line to get the next piece of paper and so on!
standing in line for forms, is the third largest industry in Ukraine
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Anyway,it seems someone read my post of earlier today...again,because according to Reuters 23 minutes ago,Germany has now decided to send Leopard Tanks to Ukraine ,and will allow other countries such as Poland to do so.
Indeed. I heard Germany will make a public announcement regarding their decision today.
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During our morning walk (in Mall because it is cold outside) wife and I talked about current corrupt officials in Ukraine.
She is quite upset about it, and even surprised, as she thought for sure everyone would be 'pulling together' during this war.
I told her I hoped Ukraine would suspend the embargo on capital punishment and execute anyone involved in such activity.
I totally agree.
Any Ukrainians caught collaborating with the enemy should be executed too imo.
I had wondered why so many Ukrainian troops at the front-line were making urgent requests on social media for basic equipment ,footwear and clothing...with all the monetary aid being pumped into Ukraine ...and i suspected corruption and thieving was rearing it's head again,even whilst the country was being invaded.
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Indeed. I heard Germany will make a public announcement regarding their decision today.
Well it's on Germany has ok'd the transfer of Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine and apparently will be sending its own as well.
Looks like a big tanks battle is brewing! WWII style, Panzers Vs Soviet tanks with a few Churchill's etc thrown in as well ;D
They showed a few Leopard 2 tanks today on the BBC News and they looked a formidable force when advancing as a group.
Should help Ukraine to at least hold the line if not advance depending on how many they get and ammo for them. Russia has apparently strengthened it's forces and will continue to do so. If the Ukrainian forces become too strong with the modern western tanks the question is will Russia resort to chemical or EMP nukes, etc to reverse a losing situation?
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Trench, corruption is endemic in Ukraine, it will ALWAYS exist, WWII didn't make it better and neither will this war...
most forms of petty corruption in Ukraine are just hiden cost factors that you plug into your calculations just like other cost factors, and so don't really matter, just annoying...
usually, Ukrainian cost factors are SO LOW, that having a 20% corruption tax is no big deal
in USA you get extorted at tax time, in Ukraine the extortion is whenever you need some piece of paper from the government so you can go to the line to get the next piece of paper and so on!
standing in line for forms, is the third largest industry in Ukraine
Yeah think you're probably right Krim, possibly down to the FSU largely being a working class culture and with that some of the more unsavoury types always knocking around with the mentality that comes with that,. i.e out for what they can get.
So if for example a foreign guy wanted to open a nightclub how would that go down in a post war Ukraine?
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"So if for example a foreign guy wanted to open a nightclub how would that go down in a post war Ukraine?"
it wouldn't! you have to have someone front for you, preferably your Ukrainian wife
this is a bad industry for someone like you to get into
cuz most of these "BARS" are money laundering operations
ordinary people don't own bars in Ukraine, the MOB does (to launder their cash, BARS are a popular choice)
and you'll be running up against these people
and you're British...
you're all really swell, nice guys, with the occasional "LORDHELPUS!!"
but nice guys like you get into trouble and then they have to depend on guys like me to get them out of it
you'd have to have "friends" like this
as well as pay for all kinds of Krisha, plus all other "real" costs...
any business that gives off a money odor will also be REGULARLY VISITED by the tax police
hoping you'll bribe them into coming less often
you will certianly ALWAYS have to give them free cases of booze + cash
or be audited for every bottle of beer sold, VAT, etc. etc
what ya wanna do, is buy something in Ukraine
yur gonna sell in the UK
this way, YOU control the money, and the market
not somebody in Ukraine
you find something valuable
fer sure you can BUY IT
and after due diligence, the person you buy it from will want the purchase to be kept quiet, just like you do
so all you really gotta worry about is how to pay for it and how to ship it discreetly to your door, avoiding all taxes, etc
and I ain't gonna tell ya my trade secrets holmes
this way operating inside a devastated economy ain't a disadvantage at all, but the opposite, an advantage
can you say, "Buyer's Market"
I was like a pig sniffing for truffles
my best finds ever all came through leads I received from a Moscow Book Store...
stunning "finds"
but I've seen a thousand roads in Russia/Ukraine that could provide a path to someone smart and nimble enuff
to put themselves at the right place at the right time and buy their fortune in Russia for a cheap price, and then sell it dearly in the Western Seller's market and do it tax free
and make with one transaction, what used to require 10 years of working for somone else who then expected you to hand over half of it as taxes
but I ain't gonna tell ya'll about ANY of this...
that's MY SECRET!
SHHHHHHHHHHH
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"So if for example a foreign guy wanted to open a nightclub how would that go down in a post war Ukraine?"
it wouldn't! you have to have someone front for you, preferably your Ukrainian wife
this is a bad industry for someone like you to get into
cuz most of these "BARS" are money laundering operations
ordinary people don't own bars in Ukraine, the MOB does (to launder their cash, BARS are a popular choice)
and you'll be running up against these people
and you're British...
you're all really swell, nice guys, with the occasional "LORDHELPUS!!"
but nice guys like you get into trouble and then they have to depend on guys like me to get them out of it
you'd have to have "friends" like this
as well as pay for all kinds of Krisha, plus all other "real" costs...
any business that gives off a money odor will also be REGULARLY VISITED by the tax police
hoping you'll bribe them into coming less often
you will certianly ALWAYS have to give them free cases of booze + cash
or be audited for every bottle of beer sold, VAT, etc. etc
Yeah I understand what you mean Krim. It's no doubt a Nightclub is no doubt the sort of business with bad stuff going down. I guess I was thinking more from the angle of getting the 'pooty tang' in as you call it. From that angle I imagine it could be a fun business to run.
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Yeah I understand what you mean Krim. It's no doubt a Nightclub is no doubt the sort of business with bad stuff going down. I guess I was thinking more from the angle of getting the 'pooty tang' in as you call it. From that angle I imagine it could be a fun business to run.
Start a post-war dating agency out there....then you get first crack at all the hotties currently working for the likes of Anastasia. ;D
There are guys from the USA who were running the big socials out there,so another opportunity for you there..making money and meeting the local talent. ;)
Meanwhile i'll team-up with Krim and we can get involved in "dodgy " enterprises which i can already see as being available in post-war Ukraine. >:D
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I met the owner of an exclusive gentleman's sex club in Amsterdam 6-7 yr ago
not the AWFUL ones in the red light district, although same rules, NO PICS!!!
but the pricey kind way down in the southern part of the city (no parking!!)
he cleared 500K month....
had something like 20+ NICE looking girls working for him
guess how he did the interviews?
and there was a new girl every other month...
500k/month
and all that pooty tang
in addition to the renovated warehouse he had his club in
he also owned a freakin amazing mansion
in the swankiest part of Amsterdam
with no apartments, only these HUGE estates on both sides ot the broad street
and perfectly quiet
compared to the raucous tourist areas with their narrow walkways
sheeeeeeetttttttt......
and making millions of euros/yr on top
I didn't wanna pry about his tax situation with this...
but I'm sure if there was some possibility to evade taxation
he could figure it out....
imagine being a smart dewd like this
I doubt very many of you could...
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Well it's on Germany has ok'd the transfer of Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine and apparently will be sending its own as well.
Looks like a big tanks battle is brewing! WWII style, Panzers Vs Soviet tanks with a few Churchill's etc thrown in as well ;D
They showed a few Leopard 2 tanks today on the BBC News and they looked a formidable force when advancing as a group.
Should help Ukraine to at least hold the line if not advance depending on how many they get and ammo for them. Russia has apparently strengthened it's forces and will continue to do so. If the Ukrainian forces become too strong with the modern western tanks the question is will Russia resort to chemical or EMP nukes, etc to reverse a losing situation?
More good news on the Tank front..the USA is sending 31 Abrams to Ukraine.
There'll be quite a Ukrainian tank armada building up. >:D
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I met the owner of an exclusive gentleman's sex club in Amsterdam 6-7 yr ago
not the AWFUL ones in the red light district, although same rules, NO PICS!!!
but the pricey kind way down in the southern part of the city (no parking!!)
he cleared 500K month....
had something like 20+ NICE looking girls working for him
guess how he did the interviews?
and there was a new girl every other month...
500k/month
and all that pooty tang
in addition to the renovated warehouse he had his club in
he also owned a freakin amazing mansion
in the swankiest part of Amsterdam
with no apartments, only these HUGE estates on both sides ot the broad street
and perfectly quiet
compared to the raucous tourist areas with their narrow walkways
sheeeeeeetttttttt......
and making millions of euros/yr on top
I didn't wanna pry about his tax situation with this...
but I'm sure if there was some possibility to evade taxation
he could figure it out....
imagine being a smart dewd like this
I doubt very many of you could...
There was a young Dutch guy on tv over here about ten years ago..talking about running his sex webcam site in Amsterdam...the best paying customers were invited to his business premises every Christmas to meet the girls in person and get laid,
He was clearing over 20k a week in profits.
There's serious money in the sex business.
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I remember the good ‘ole chaterbate back in the mid 90s
when everybody had these 640x480 webcams in front of them, pointed downward
the image a bit “overexposed” so to speak...
clipping your head and face
then they took off all their clothes, and got their lotion out
and then logged into a chaterbate queue of women who like to watch men "pleasure themselves"
and then a group of women log in and watch and rate your member and performance...
and while they are watching your live video you are watching a live audio/video of their reaction to it
good times!!!
and this was like almost 30 years ago!
ummm, a friend of mine, yeah, a good friend, actually, was addicted to this for a whole year when he lived in silicon valley, but he's OK now
Biden's sec of defense just went to Kyiv to tell Zelensky in person about Russia's upcoming offensive that the USA intelligence has fully mapped out...
USA is doing EVERYTHING it can to get sufficient ammo for Ukraine to make it a slaughter
as the lowest rungs of Russian society get peeled off
and are thrown into a deperate arena
against men even more desperate to survive
cuz behind them are their homes, communities, families...
only pre-positioned stockpile left untouched is Diego Garcia
but that's what backs our Pacific defense against China
we may have to give up the artillery shells there
cuz there's no other place to get 'em
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Trump Russia
FBI Supervisor CharlesMcGonigal — was locked up this week for taking bribes from Oligarch
Oleg Deripaska —— WHILE INVESTIGATING TRUMP’S RUSSIA CONNECTION TO, wait for it...
PAUL MANAFORT AND OLEG DERIPASKA!
right after that came James Comey’s press release on Hilary's emails —
AT THE REQUEST OF MCGONIGAL !
and this is just the TIP of the iceberg of information that just surfaced this week!!!!
google how many people are currently facing charges over ILLEGALLY funneling RUSSIAN money to Trump's, campaign and inaugeration, including a close relative of Senator Rand Paul...
hmmmmm....
dumb phuques know nothing about this...
but instead, know EVERYTHING about the Mexican Tranvestites that are crossin the border to be restroom peepers
and that this is their "REAL" enemy, cuz that's what Tucker Carlson told 'em!!!
who is ALSO a Putin Fan BOI!
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Leopard 2 tanks
Leopard2's are 1979 tech, sure they look impressive but really, it's NATO cleaning out their
coat closet giving their old rain jackets to the poor, then congratulating themselves about
their generosity. At least they have a huge supply of spare parts on the continent and a
normal diesel engine.
The USA sending M1 Abrams (also 1979 tech) is far more problematic, because it uses a
gas turbine. While I am sure that the average Ukrainian tank mechanic is game to learn,
gas turbines are quite different than diesel engines. The maintenance, spare parts, and
even the fuel are quite different and would require huge training and supply chain
backlogs.
The Tandy/Radio Shack TRS 80 computer was the leading tech of the day in 1979.
(http://www.trs-80.com/images/hardware/computer-model4dxall.png)
Don't get me wrong, Europe cleaning out their old inventories of old tanks so they
can upgrade is a good thing. Russia will scream like they do when Putin's third
cousin's mistress hairdresser gets sanctioned from traveling. However, this is
not going to turn the tide of the war much more than sanctions on the hairdresser
will stop Russia from continuing the fight. I would advise being very skeptical of
stories in the press to the contrary.
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"Leopard2's are 1979 tech..."
so are F-15s
and like the F-15 the Leopard has had a lot of upgrade packages over the years
from the 2A1 to the 2A5
leopards are quite easy to drive and operate, all computer operated
and are quite comfortable with freakin air conditioning!!
when I was a kid, my dad showed me how to drive a Sherman
two clutch pedals, one for each tread, handheld throttle and you had to coordinate everything
so you are constantly working both arms and feet/legs while getting your head bumped up against the periscope you're peering into
and go do this day after day in freezing weather...
but Leopard's are about as hard to drive as an Audi with their hydromatic transmission
I like your TRS-80, that was a model III, or IV I believe, with a Z80 CPU....
I think that one came out a little AFTER 1979
in '79 you had the Model !, 4k ram, level I basic upgradable to something like 48k with level II Basic with an expansion box and floppy drives
and it woulda cost ya thousands of dollars, which were WAY more valuable back then compared to today!
tanks require more support personnel and equipment than almost anything else except aircraft
so this involves a LOT more than just the tanks themselves...
and will take a long while
and this is WHY you don't see Ukraine making many offensive moves NOW...
cuz they's waitin
and there's really only one use for these
and that's to cut Crimea from Russian access
I don't know if Ukraine can pull that off this year or next...
how this progresses
and Russia's presidential election,
are the 2 big things to watch this summer
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and there's really only one use for these and that's to cut Crimea from Russian access
I doubt the tanks can get anywhere near the bridge at Kerch.
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"I doubt the tanks can get anywhere near the bridge at Kerch."
why would they need to do that?
when another bomb will do the trick?
and they don't even need to do that for a couple of more months yet
and you can bet the Ukrainians are gonna wait until just about the time Russia will reopen, when they'll blow it again
zapping the kerch bridge is what made the victory at Kherson possible
the tanks are needed to cut off crimea from the North
see crimea canal map below
look at that narrow land bridge to the north
cut the canal and highway and rail line to the north
blow up the bridge to the east
mine the harbors in the south
cut off the water
cut off the gas
cut off the electricity
cut the flow of food
it's Ukraine's version of the civil war'S Vicksburg, Mississippi campaign...
i'm already tryin to get my wife's family out
BUT...
THEY ARE ALL FOOKIN RUSSIAN PATRIOTS
AND DON'T WANNA "RUN"
I.E. they are poor uneducated Russians
in-laws ALREADY have THEIR CHILDREN OUT! I even got one, my very OWN MALCHICK!!!
jeez, after 2 daughters, it feels great having a son
cuz in-laws are rich, educated Russians...
what would Karl Marx have to say about this?
is Russia actually fighting a "class war"
with Rich Oligarchs in Russia vrs Poor Russians and Ukrainians
do poor Russians have more in common with poor Ukrainians
than with Rich Russian oligarchs?
that this is a war to sustain Russia's oligarchy
which was supposed to be an easy meal
but instead became an epic struggle
where the intended prey
has the predator by the throat instead
to answer that question, you must first ask
why did poor white farmers living in log cabins with dirt floors
end up sending their sons to die in a war to support rich slave owners, whose sons were exempt from service
to perpetuate an economic system that worked to suppress their wages (white wages in slave states 30% lower than non slave states)
huh?
why is you WHITE BOYZ SO FRAKIN' DUMB!!!!
ALL that I am tryin to do is "open your eyes"
but do you white boyz, whether Russian or American
wanna listen to a Texas Jew Boy?
NOPE!
ya sure don't!!!
so Yalky Palky!
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what would Karl Marx have to say about this?
is Russia actually fighting a "class war"
with Rich Oligarchs in Russia vrs Poor Russians and Ukrainians
do poor Russians have more in common with poor Ukrainians
than with Rich Russian oligarchs?
that this is a war to sustain Russia's oligarchy
which was supposed to be an easy meal
but instead became an epic struggle
where the intended prey
has the predator by the throat instead
Seems like most FSU countries have ended up like one big social housing/council estate. We have social/council housing here in the UK and you have something similar in the US I believe. I'm not saying all social/council housing types are bad'uns some are decent nice people but there tends to be a culture there of trouble, people preying on people, each other, of being seen to be street wise, of seeing whether you can get one over on your fellow man (or woman) no matter how petty it is, and of stress and commotion often over trivialities and silly stuff.
The upper classes were knocked off in the FSU or deported/fled. This has its upsides but also means a lot of council estate culture (as above) tends to then hold sway and dominate too much. The building of mass social housing in the USSR kind of elevated it on a large scale. Here in the UK we had a smaller affair with council/social housing building, but the effects can often be seen with all too many of the residents/tenants. Unfortunately poor attitudes and hence behaviours (as above) with sometimes idle hands turning no good and a lit of whining and complaining about their lot with no wish to work to improve it, an expectation that others should serve their needs. Again not saying all are like that but it tends to be part of the culture of many. Think we are gradually trying to get away from all that here in the UK as it's no good for them or society.
So pretty sure it's not what Karl Marx had envisaged and from what I can see is how a lot of the FSU is. Last week was watching a program on Netflix on the great Putler. Looks like he pretty much just fell into the job by chance, little more than a lowly ex-KGB clerk of no great merit or agent skill. Happened just to be in the right place at the right time and inadvertently likely to his own surprise just suddenly plucked out of obscurity and plopped into the President's job probably bewildered how he came to be there himself. Looks like Yeltsin was just happy for anyone who fitted his views more than poor old Nemtsov who met a tragic end eventually as a result. Had Nemtsov kept his mouth shut over the Chechen war and wait for the old man Yeltsin's time to pass that anyone could see wasn't far off then his and Russia's future may have been a lot more rosier.
The whole Putin saga kind of reminds me of, 'Animal Farm' all over again where some lowly random animal just inadvertently finds himself just by chance to be running the farm and ends up inflicting misery on those below him. Basically a lot of bad luck in the chance happening of Putin ending up in the job and bringing back the bad old ways of how life used to be out there. Possibly otherwise it might have potentially all moved on for the better.
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Read Britain’s history…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre
whenever the ruling class has ABSOLUTE power
you have these kinds of consequences
regardless of the economic system
WWI and WWII broke the backs of the British aristocracy/oligarchy
allowing a middle class to emerge
this war might break Russia’s oligarchy
and their assets recaptured and returned to the people
but my point is, if you were ALL AWAKE, ya’ll wouldn’t end up as slaves in the first place
massa, he relies on the slaves not bein “WOKE”
he likes 'em poor and ignorant...
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The McGonigal indictment question goes even beyond the issues of his leaking of the "pending" investigation of Hillary's emails before she was later exonerated by the FBI
(but exonerated only AFTER she lost the election)
Remember Mike Flynn, saying "Lock her UP!
while ALSO getting paid at the same time by the VERY SAME Russians
Pardon ME?
In 2016, Trump's campaign manager (Manafort) was a former employee of a Russian oligarch (Deripaska), and owed money to that same Russian oligarch. And the FBI special agent (McGonigal) who was charged with investigating the Trump campaign's Russian connections was secretly working (according to the indictment) for that very same Russian oligarch (Deripaska).
WTF?
so the Mueller report, which did document a LOT of unsusual suspicious activity between Trump/Russia
chose to NOT investigate "economic crimes" (Trump's favorite and most prolific type)
for some unspecified reason, when Russian money was at the CENTER of it all
and the Mueller investigation didn't have a CLUE, that the FBI Agent in charge of the "Russian Election Interference" investigation
was actually working for the VERY same Russians WHILE he was investigating them!
if you're a Republican
none of this FAKE RUSSIAN HOAX NEWS is important as the danger posed by "wokeness"
just what is the danger posed by being "woke" to Republicans?
that it might lead to a path, where mainstream white America will extend the hand of tolerance and compassion to EVERY disenfranchised voting group, based on race, religion, sexual orientation
and form a politcal block in direct opposition to Republican's White evangelical cultural warfare block, directed by the rich elites who own and control the Republican party
OTOH, the elite's religion and culture is ACTUALLY money and power and has nothing to do with these other topics
any more than Ukraine is a Nazi country bent on destroying Russia the great savior of Christain cultural values and so a "holy war" ensues
LOL! AS IF...
and THIS is why the oligarchy attacks WOKENESS, through the media like Fox News and others that they BOUGHT AND PAID FOR
because wokeness is a threat to their power and money they derive from that
why do you think they work so hard TO DIVIDE US?
you think THEY care about any of your petty prejudices, one way or the other?
or do they care about how to keep extracting "RENT" from the economy
that ultimately is derived the labor of the poor and middle class
so tell me, what share of the economy is delegated to the poor and middle class
who do all the WORK, compared to the ruling elites, who do NONE
so, as a result,
ya'll end up just workin against yourselves instead of FOR
just like the thousands of dirt poor southerners in the civil war who gave their lives to maintain the RICH slave owner's economic position, which WAS ALWAYS in DIRECT opposition to their own...
WHY?
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YA'LL
why all the STOOPID?
can "one of you" explain it?
cuz I sure as hell can not...
PS
this town's a ghost town,
and couldn't be more dead than it currently is...
I recommend ya'll go to either VK or Telegram and freakin TROLL Russians as HARD AS YOU CAN
great FUN!!
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"Leopard2's are 1979 tech..."
Every point you make is correct. HOWEVER, when the German/Austrian/Dutch generals
give their sh!t away, they will give their oldest sh!t away first. FIFO is what the
accountants call it. You
Also the Leopard 2 is competing against the old Russian tech T72's and T80's.
That's the Radio Shack TRS80 competing against the Honeywell 316 which ran
at the lightning speed of 2.5 MHz and could store up to 4096 words of memory.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Honeywell316.jpg)
The Leopard 2 should scare soldiers driving T72's (if they have brains). The T72's
can back up about as fast an old lady crossing the street with a walker on a snowy
day after getting drunk. I have never been in the military but ask a tank driver
how important it is to be able to back up.
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besides the lead FBI investigator of the Trump Russia Probe being PAID by the Same Russians he was investigating WHILE he was investigating them...
and who then leaked a fake inflammatory press release about Hillary's emails
before she was later cleared
(and all this is in the INDICTMENT, and not a libtard media show)
In order to "clear himself" Trump created a coverup plan
Trump also appointed Bill Barr who appointed John Durham who spent $6.5 million to uncover “misconduct” in the Trump-Russia probe using Russian Intel, but the only crimes Durham uncovered were crimes committed by Trump HIMSELF. And then they hid it? Did I get that right?
but all this is FINE, as long as it works AGAINT the woke libtards, right?
you know "libtards" people who "don't share your beliefs" about race, religion, sexuality, etc
and your puppet masters pull your strings to direct your RIGHTEOUS anger against people who are different from you
who just want the same things you take for granted
Liberty
Equality
Brotherhood
these things stand in the way of something ELSE
so massa he gonna get rid of it
and ya'll are massas slaves
and will do like you're told
never realizing you're digging your own grave
none of ya'll care about the RICH POWEFUL arseholes who sell YOU OUT, EVERY chance they get
and WHAT IT COSTS YOU
and are more worried about Mexican Transvestites hopping over the border to check out your junk in a restroom
cuz this pablum is being spoon fed to you little babies every day on Fox News and other media owned by the oligarchy
so in my view, ya'll deserve the coming judgment that's gonna be passed on you
just like it was with all them HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dirt poor rednecks
who died in the "War of Southern Plantation Owners" agin the industrialized North
and no, the blood sacrifice ya'll made to the Virus God to appease Trumpy Bear
is already gone
and MORE is needed
maybe all of you next time
a single tear flows down my cheek
meanwhile, I see Russia/Iran/China all converging in the future
spossiba Beel
for the retro-futuristic minicomputer...
I miss those days
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The Manchurian Candidate was apparently more than just a movie.
A Russian agent (Paul Manafort) in the employ of Putin’s oligarchs (Oleg Deripaska & Konstantin Kilimnik) was paid millions BY THE RUSSIANS (and NOT Trump) to run Trump’s campaign and was passing secret campaign information to Russian intelligence that they used to target specific groups of American voters via Facebook and Twitter, courtesey of Cambridge Analytica, to alter the outcome of the US presidential election to one MORE favorable to Russia
and when this treachery was referred to the FBI, the lead agent there was later, it turns out according to the latest INDICTMENT, WAS ALSO secretly working for Deripaska and Putin... and was responsible for using Hillary's Laptop emails right before the election to create a fake scandal, which would BE AMPLIFIED in the media by Trump's people, but of course, the invented scandal, had no real substance (anymore than Hunter Biden's laptop), and AFTER THE ELECTION, was completely cleared of any wrong doing, by the same FBI.... who could also NOT FIND any DIRECT COLLUSION between Trump & Russia.... cuz the REAL COLLUSION was DIRECTLY connected to THEM ALL ALONG!!!
You may remember Deripaska was also the oligarch who helped Mitch McConnell win the 2020 election by announcing he was going to build a $200 million “many-new-jobs” aluminum operation in Kentucky — that was then cancelled RIGHT AFTER after McConnell won reelection. McConnell helped get sanctions lifted, apparently so Derapaska could help his campaign, earning him the “Moscow Mitch” nickname.)
meanwhile, SOMEBODY directed the Kentucky Teacher's Retirement fund, to sink 20 million USD into SBER bank, which got wiped out by sanctions
and none of ya'll are MAD about this?
of COURSE NOT!!!
none of you even phuquing care....
or are even capable of seeing the TRUTH that's RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU
when people STOP CARING, this is how democracy and freedom die
and you all WILL DESERVE what's coming for you down the road...
me and my family are gonna be Los Latinos when that happens, and dumb phuques will curse the fact that they built a wall instead of a bridge
ya'll have a real nice day now, hasta lavista baby!
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Ukraine still after joining the EU assuming it makes it out of this conflict:
http://www.ft.com/content/3275f83f-e765-4709-a5da-ec9b02fea237
Reconstruction cost is likely to be huge then of course the EU must be getting strapped for cash what with paying for the virus pandemic response plus the UK leaving the bloc.
I personally don't think that Ukraine has really thought through whether it it is really a good idea to join the EU. Instead of their sovereignty being seized by Russia they would be giving their sovereignty up to the EU. That I think is something they haven't realised yet, they are too focused on the perks and not giving up power over to Brussels.
For us there is the possibility that it could mess up Ukraine as a place for relationships. However the whole EU bloc could be much poorer in the future moreso if they are weighed down with the costs of doing up Ukraine and supporting a poor economy - another one they give money out to rather than receive money from.
Personally I'm still glad we are out of the EU, I think we have only benefitted since, means people can't legally just float into the country by themself.
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черный куб
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Putin's standing in Russia, has depended upon two premises: what happens on television is more important than what happens in reality
and what happens outside Russia should get all the focus, and not what happens inside Russia, (all illusionists understand how to distract attention/perception)
With mobilization, the distinction between inside/outside Russia has been broken;
with lost battles, the distinction between television and reality has been broken. Reality is starting to matter a LOT more than television, and what's happening in Russia as a result of the war, will start to matter a LOT more than what's happening in Ukraine....
and this moy druzya means that Putin is starting to lose his grip over Russia.... and those who long to take over Putin's position, are already auditioning for the role....
primarily, the former hotdog salesman Yevgeny Prigozhin, an alumnus of the Russian prison system and of course Ramzan Kadyrov who is basking in the Chechen glory of murdering and raping (including Russians) civilians with the small number of Instagram fame seekers, while quietly exempting Chechen citizens from Russian mobilization (cuz they're HIS, to be used for his "future plans" and NOT Putin's)
it's no coincidence, that they each have built up a private army...
so at some point, the center of the WAR, will shift from Ukraine to Russia
after the FAILURE of the Ukrainian war
MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN
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and this moy druzya means that Putin is starting to lose his grip over Russia.... and those who long to take over Putin's position, are already auditioning for the role....
primarily, the former hotdog salesman Yevgeny Prigozhin, an alumnus of the Russian prison system and of course Ramzan Kadyrov who is basking in the Chechen glory of murdering and raping (including Russians) civilians with the small number of Instagram fame seekers, while quietly exempting Chechen citizens from Russian mobilization (cuz they're HIS, to be used for his "future plans" and NOT Putin's)
it's no coincidence, that they each have built up a private army...
so at some point, the center of the WAR, will shift from Ukraine to Russia
after the FAILURE of the Ukrainian war
MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN
Ah surely the unthinkable, our beloved Putler moving on so soon! Think you could be right Krim depending on how the pieces fall, an easy interesting insight.
Possibly Sergei Shoigu or those quite high up in the Russian Army possibly in the mix as well maybe depending on what remains of the Russian Army after all of this. Aside from that possibly some regions of Russia attempting to break away.
Not sure on timing for this, depends on how ragged the Russian Army and economy becomes from all of this. Guessing could all happen after the pending Russian Spring offensive if all does not go well for them.
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spossiba Beel
for the retro-futuristic minicomputer...
I miss those days
Pozhaluista, I don't miss the screens.
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Putin's standing in Russia, has depended upon two premises: what happens on television is more important than what happens in reality
and what happens outside Russia should get all the focus, and not what happens inside Russia, (all illusionists understand how to distract attention/perception)
With mobilization, the distinction between inside/outside Russia has been broken;
with lost battles, the distinction between television and reality has been broken. Reality is starting to matter a LOT more than television, and what's happening in Russia as a result of the war, will start to matter a LOT more than what's happening in Ukraine....
and this moy druzya means that Putin is starting to lose his grip over Russia.... and those who long to take over Putin's position, are already auditioning for the role....
primarily, the former hotdog salesman Yevgeny Prigozhin, an alumnus of the Russian prison system and of course Ramzan Kadyrov who is basking in the Chechen glory of murdering and raping (including Russians) civilians with the small number of Instagram fame seekers, while quietly exempting Chechen citizens from Russian mobilization (cuz they're HIS, to be used for his "future plans" and NOT Putin's)
it's no coincidence, that they each have built up a private army...
so at some point, the center of the WAR, will shift from Ukraine to Russia
after the FAILURE of the Ukrainian war
MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN
It would be truly wonderful seeing Putler and what's left of his military ,former prison bitch Prigozhin with his terrorist Wagner PMC,and Kadyrov and his deviant Chechens massacring each other and destroying Russia in the process.
NATO and the west can sit back and enjoy the show. :popcorn:
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sometimes "cascading failures" become like avalanches
with nothing able to stop it
until it buries all in its path
and this will make the folks in the neighboring valleys quite nervous
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Apparently it looks like Russia is in the beginning stages of starting it's Spring Offensive already:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1729567/Ukraine-live-war-Russia-major-spring-offensive-active-phase-donbas-Kramatorsk/amp
It's reckoned that instead of somewhere towards 300,000 troops amassing for the offensive that there looks to be nearer 500,000 troops amassing for the offensive. Apart from Russian troops moving to the front in the Donbass we could be looking at another build up of troops along Ukraine's northern border just like last year but way bigger this time! Likely pushing in from all sides this time. My guess is that it may all start in motion again around the anniversary of last year's invasion if not before.
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Apparently it looks like Russia is in the beginning stages of starting it's Spring Offensive already:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1729567/Ukraine-live-war-Russia-major-spring-offensive-active-phase-donbas-Kramatorsk/amp (http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1729567/Ukraine-live-war-Russia-major-spring-offensive-active-phase-donbas-Kramatorsk/amp)
It's reckoned that instead of somewhere towards 300,000 troops amassing for the offensive that there looks to be nearer 500,000 troops amassing for the offensive. Apart from Russian troops moving to the front in the Donbass we could be looking at another build up of troops along Ukraine's northern border just like last year but way bigger this time! Likely pushing in from all sides this time. My guess is that it may all start in motion again around the anniversary of last year's invasion if not before.
Not one of the best sources out there...the Express does tend to exaggerate everything ,whether it's pro Russian or pro Ukrainian news.
But anyway it will be interesting to see how many of the Express claimed 300k to 500k will actually fight.
In todays news 600 mobilized Russian troops who refused to participate in hostilities were returned from the Luhansk region to the territory of Russia.
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le Russ chef
goes to the worst of the worst prisons in Russia
and recruits the worst of the worst prisoners
if they survive 6 months on the front line...
they collect $10,000 CASH MONEY in St Pete's AND
keep WHATEVER THEY STEAL
AND can do to Ukrainian women and children (or men, if that's your thing) WHATEVER YOU WANT!!!
AND have their criminal history COMPLETELY EXPUNGED
AND automatically get a $2500/month job in his private army
who WOULDN'T take that deal!!!!
this is HOW he vettes his troops for the private army he surrounds himself with!
he gets ONLY THE BEST through the Darwinian Recruitment Agency
and all paid with Rubley printed by Putin JUST FOR HIM
and those presses run 24/7
there are now about half a dozen large private armies in Russia, some like Prigozhin's are aligned with a major mafiya family, like Prigozhin is with the Tambov's
and the Chechen mafiya in south eastern Moscva is with kadyrov
the memory of Stalingrad
Putin's upcoming vision of glory
Prigozhin chipping away
until Putin brings forth the sledgehammer
and brings it down
there will be just a short time between the end of the offensive
and the start of the early summer rains
which will make mechanized movement tempoarily impossible
but the distances Ukraine has to cross to sever Crimea
are short
if Ukraine doesn't suffer massive losses during Russia's offensive, but Russia DOES
then there is a short window of time it can take advantage of this
if Crimea is completely severed
after the failure of the offensive....
while the Russian economy continues to nosedive
will cast the darkest shade possible
over Putin's victorious glorious re-election parade
which is about 13 months from now
that date will be an inflection point....
what's that, up in the road ahead?
could it be The Twilight Zone, is that what Z really stands for?
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Not one of the best sources out there...the Express does tend to exaggerate everything ,whether it's pro Russian or pro Ukrainian news.
But anyway it will be interesting to see how many of the Express claimed 300k to 500k will actually fight.
In todays news 600 mobilized Russian troops who refused to participate in hostilities were returned from the Luhansk region to the territory of Russia.
Ok I admit I chose the most headline grabbing news story out there. It was either that or the unexciting Chinese weather balloon one ;D
Potentially though Ukraine could have quite a fight on its hands in the days and weeks to come, moreso than before. The troop numbers will be at least twice maybe three times the size of the initial invasion force. My guess is that those Ukrainians that have done a runner and gone abroad are not going to be thought kindly of by most of those back home so are probably keeping a low profile with many of them not letting it be known they have abandoned their country/countrymen to their fate whatever that may be. In fairness to Bee Farmer as he pointed out they are going to find it difficult to return if Ukraine gets through this if it becomes known they had fled and left the rest of them facing all the misery that comes with defending one's country.
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More info on the Russian mobilization/conscription:
http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3666304-ukrainian-intelligence-predicts-russian-offensive-efforts-in-donetsk-luhansk-zaporizhia-regions.html
As it states it seems logical that the Russians would defend in Kherson region where they hold a strong defensive position the other side of the river while avoiding attacking there as the river also makes it harder to cross for themselves as well. Attacking from Donetsk & Zaporizhia makes sense for Russia as the open terrain means easier advancement there. I would also expect an attack from the north from Belarus probably down towards Kyiv again, Kharkiv but also down towards Lviv. Possibly attacks out of Transnistria if only to secure the border area around there also. I think an attack down towards Lviv is probably almost definitely on the cards this time what with the larger troop numbers at Russia's disposal.
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Another interesting article here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/us/politics/ukraine-russia-casualties.html
Makes a good point in that Russia with a much larger population can take greater loss of troop numbers than Ukraine, in theory.
Ukrainian troops have been training on Challenger 2 tanks in the UK this past week so along with Leopard 2 tanks we'll see how that goes down in the fighting. Looks like a real battle royale is brewing and things look likely to really kick off even bigger than last year in the next few weeks or so.
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Another interesting article here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/us/politics/ukraine-russia-casualties.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/us/politics/ukraine-russia-casualties.html)
Makes a good point in that Russia with a much larger population can take greater loss of troop numbers than Ukraine, in theory.
Ukrainian troops have been training on Challenger 2 tanks in the UK this past week so along with Leopard 2 tanks we'll see how that goes down in the fighting. Looks like a real battle royale is brewing and things look likely to really kick off even bigger than last year in the next few weeks or so.
The problem Russia has is that much of it's male population is in ill health and unfit to fight...hence why they had to increase their mobilization age to 60.
Secondary school children ( 12 and up ) and students in Russia are now being forced to learn how to fight and learning how to use assault rifles.
The way things are going they'll be sending Russian women and children into Ukraine to fight soon.
Putler may well achieve his dream of a genocide in Ukraine..only it'll be his own people becoming extinct.
Current death toll of the orcs in Ukraine stands at 133,190..and reports coming out of the hospitals in the orc occupied areas of the Donbas region is that they're full of wounded,crippled and dying orcs.....happy days >:D
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an american running dog spy satellite collects FPV video in ultra-high detail with computer enhanced imagery....
it sends the encrypted data to fort meade, maryland
there, an AI program counts trucks driving down a road, guns parked in a field, even individual soldiers, and tracks them between orbits....
and reduces it to a big XLS spreadsheet with Eng/Ukr translations
and does this every 90 min 24/7
and in addition...
a joint US/Ukr task force of the MOST SR military planners
provide an overview of their interpretation
and have been "gaming" this thing to death....
Ukraine has RESEREVES... people and ammo...
the ammo they recently captured from overrunning the Russians was ENORMOUS
and has already been redistributed, just THAT AMMO by itself will inflict huge losses
I would imagine that in the first two weeks of the offensive, Russia will lose maybe as many as 50,000 KIA (equivalent to vietnam war for USA)
Russia will not meausure victory or defeat by this number
but will only measure it in territory won or lost
and this is how the world will see the truth about Russia's true motives
next year, poor uneducated Russians will start asking the same questions the rich, educated ones did last year...
as ALL LEVELS of Russian society FEEL THE PAIN!!!
* and remember, dear gentle readers, that since 2014, when Putin occupied Crimea, the Russian GDP has declined by 10% and that by next year's election, could be 15%
a 15% decrease, instead of a 50% to 70& increase? average oligarch's net worth has dropped 50%...
by the end of next year, all the cracks in Russia will start to get bigger and bigger and bigger
and things will break down, all kinds of things...
in Russia, even entropy isn't as good as it used to be...
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Doesn’t Russia have the same satellite imagery?
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The way things are going they'll be sending Russian women and children into Ukraine to fight soon.
Women prison inmates have already been recruited to soldier training sites.
http://english.nv.ua/nation/russians-recruiting-female-convicts-in-occupied-donbas-to-fight-against-ukraine-50302223.html
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"Doesn’t Russia have the same satellite imagery?"
no, neither does China....
the usa has no peer in this field, an ENORMOUS lead...
but Russia does have some version of this, just no where near as good as this...
gives Ukr a HUGE advantage, and they will optimize the damage
because sometimes...
you gotta be cruel, to be kind...
criminalize dissent
put dissenters in jail
recruit soldiers from jail
this solves both the dissenter and military recruitment problems
"win-win"
paid for with freshly printed rubles minus "managment fees"
you could't get it any cheaper than this
I mean "cost effective"
sure go ahead and hyperinflate in the long term
to survive in the short term
i'm sure it'll all work out fine
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Brilliant speech from President Zelensky in London today.
He made a point of thanking Boris Johnson for galvanizing all the countries that are now helping Ukraine.
Mentioned how he sat in Winston Churchills chair on a previous visit to London and felt something.
He said he's looking forward to meeting with King Charles at Buckingham Palace,and said "King Charles was an Air Force pilot and in our country our Air Force pilots are our kings "...invoking the Battle of Britain spirit.
The UK is now training Ukrainian pilots to fly western fighter jets and also our Royal Marines are now training Ukrainians.
Update : Looks like Zelensky's speech had the desired effect as Downing Street confirms PM Sunak has now asked Defence Minister Ben Wallace what fighter jets we can give to Ukraine.
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Ukraine has asked for another 24,000 men to join-up and fight against the orcs.
9,000 volunteered within a week .
The really interesting thing is that whilst the orcs need another 250k ( 300k - 500k according to the Express) men to be sent into Ukraine,Ukraine only needs another 24k men to meet them.
This clearly suggests that Ukraine is losing just 10% of the military that the orcs are.
Death toll for the orcs in Ukraine since 24th February last year now stands at 134,100 >:D
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Brilliant speech from President Zelensky in London today.
He made a point of thanking Boris Johnson for galvanizing all the countries that are now helping Ukraine.
Mentioned how he sat in Winston Churchills chair on a previous visit to London and felt something.
He said he's looking forward to meeting with King Charles at Buckingham Palace,and said "King Charles was an Air Force pilot and in our country our Air Force pilots are our kings "...invoking the Battle of Britain spirit.
The UK is now training Ukrainian pilots to fly western fighter jets and also our Royal Marines are now training Ukrainians.
Update : Looks like Zelensky's speech had the desired effect as Downing Street confirms PM Sunak has now asked Defence Minister Ben Wallace what fighter jets we can give to Ukraine.
The UK has certainly been at the forefront of helping Ukraine more so than the EU. We've been giving them tanks while EU nations have been procrastinating and squabbling over it.
It certainly makes sense for us to aid Ukraine all we canm After all they are really doing the fight for us. If we didn't aid them Putler would come back a bigger threat following conquering Ukraine and we all know how that one plays out from Hitler. Better for Ukraine to have the fight now while Russia are weaker than us have the fight tommorow when Russia is stronger. Results in a lot year suffering and war in the long run. I thought Zelensky made a fine speech today in London. I personally think he looks a better fit with the UK than with the EU, more comfortable and more in common.
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Ukraine has asked for another 24,000 men to join-up and fight against the orcs.
9,000 volunteered within a week .
The really interesting thing is that whilst the orcs need another 250k ( 300k - 500k according to the Express) men to be sent into Ukraine,Ukraine only needs another 24k men to meet them.
This clearly suggests that Ukraine is losing just 10% of the military that the orcs are.
Death toll for the orcs in Ukraine since 24th February last year now stands at 134,100 >:D
Interesting figures. Guess Ukraine would rather have volunteers than conscripts though of course they can call them up at any time. Possibly the lower numbers could be down to Ukraine's ability to train, arm, feed & move the men. Ukraine is playing a different game than Russia, they'll almost certainly be on the defensive in the coming months as Russia throws the weight of a hugh army of men with largely basic training at them. That's is still not likely to be an easy fight for Ukraine to win. They will be relying on better trained but fewer soldiers than Russia. Ukraine is getting some much needed modern weaponry from the west but Russia is getting some new stuff too, not a lot of it but it'll be there.
So Ukraine has to avoid giving ground too quickly but chew through up to potentially 300,000-500,000 men to get to Russia is exhausted then counterattack possibly around late Summertime again or the following year. All the while there is the distinct possibility that Russia will continue to conscript men on a flowing basis to try to exhaust Ukraine.
So I think Ukraine could have a tough road ahead of it as it likely faces a continual relentless barrage of Russian forces. There is the potential for the west/Ukraine to underestimate the new Russian offensive about to open up and for Russia to break through in one or more places. It could well be that we might be underestimating the amount of tanks and other weaponry Ukraine will need to hold them back.
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both sides will run out of ammo before they run out of soldiers...
the side that runs out last is declared the winner - check the rule book!!
the us/israeli stockpile is already in Ukr somewhere with about a half dozen other stockpiles
one side has all the artillery shells europe and north america can scrape together
and the other has Russia/Iran/North Korea...
you're REALLY not sure of the outcome?
LOL!!
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both sides will run out of ammo before they run out of soldiers...
the side that runs out last is declared the winner - check the rule book!!
the us/israeli stockpile is already in Ukr somewhere with about a half dozen other stockpiles
one side has all the artillery shells europe and north america can scrape together
and the other has Russia/Iran/North Korea...
you're REALLY not sure of the outcome?
LOL!!
India & China have remained relatively neutral so far but in future who knows? China might see a vested interest in supplying Russia at a price as it continues to eye Taiwan. Other than that the Russian foreign minister is in Mali at the moment so who knows maybe they have a big secret stash ;D
In other news it looks like Europe is offloading their old Leopard 1 tanks and sending them to Ukraine. They can send them in larger numbers than the more modern Leopard two tanks as they don't want them and so are a cheaper option. Ukraine still likely to get some Leopard 2 tanks as well but smaller numbers. The Leopard 1's should make up for lost Ukrainian Soviet era tanks. As said earlier though a case of the west offloading some of their old stock onto Ukraine so a cheap expense move there:
http://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2023/02/07/european-coalition-to-give-refurbished-leopard-1-tanks-to-ukraine/
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Two weeks ago the vatniks were yelling "Bakhmut is only the beginning.Remember the name Vuhledar ! The grave of the Ukrainian Army ! "
Well i've just seen astonishing footage of the result of that Russian orc offensive....31 destroyed orc Tanks and AFV's. >:D
135,010 dead orcs
3,255 destroyed orc Tanks.
6,468 destroyed orc AFV's
All in Ukraine since 24th Feb last year.
Wagner PMC is now no longer recruiting prisoners from Russian prisons...they're running out of money after sanctions against them .
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The orcs are now having to use military equipment from WW2.
Video has emerged of the DPR having to use a WW2 -era 152 mm D-1 towed artillery piece,which is in service with the 1st Army Corps.
I guess the orcs having 2,224 artillery pieces destroyed in Ukraine since Feb 24th last year has a lot to do with that. ;D
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Looks like the start of the orc offensive in eastern Ukraine.isn't going well for them.
As well as the orc massacre at Vuhledar,there is now video of an orc assault in the Marilinka area.
They attacked positions of the 79th Brigade,but after they came under fire from Mortars,automatic grenade launchers and machine guns they retreated..leaving their weapons and wounded behind. >:D
It wasn't an organized retreat either....it was a disorderly drop everything and let's get the fark out of here , running as fast as we can before our underpants start to smell too much, rout.
Reports are that this scenario is happening right across the front-line.
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The orc battle group that got smashed at Vuhledar painted their armoured vehicles,Tanks etc with the name of "Drakula "..probably intending to feast on the blood of Ukrainian people.
There is a video of them cockily waving to a passing car as they were preparing to go into battle.
31 destroyed Tanks etc and 400 dead "Drakula " orcs later they ain't so cocky now...the only blood they feasted on was their own as they choked on it. >:D .
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Vladlen Tatarsky writes that in his area of responsibility Russian mobiks refused to go into battle.Worries him enough to announce it publicly.
"Messages from the front :the mobilised from one region of the Russian Federation ( i don't want to name it ,i'm ashamed for my almost-countrymen ) refuse to go into battle ".
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remember the "Zulu" movie from the 60's?
the one with her majesty's army vrs zulus at Roork's Rift(sp?)
the first wave, is just to test the enemies firepower....
next waves will be to look for "weak spots"
when one is found, that's when the "big tsunami" starts....
right now the crest is off in the distance...building....
4 months until rainy season in Ukraine....
13 months until Russian presidential election
timing is EVERYTHING
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in order to save Ukraine, they had to destroy Ukraine
and then in order to save Russia
they had to destroy Russia as well
Hydra Darknet has been reconstituted as OMG! OMG!
the revolution will be anonymous and encrypted and merged into the underground economy the dark web to the black market...
anonymous networks
are also
autonomous networks
yes, you can use it to sell Delta 8 vape pens to millenials in moscva and clear 100 BTC/month while sitting in another country profiling 'graffitniki" who spray paint your Q-codes all over moscva...
but that's only the beginning...
so what's giving the Russians a major ass-whoopin?
it's a WEIRD BEAST!!!!
it has American eyes and Ukrainian teeth
and a left/right brain 'cross the sea
that knocks the bear on it's ass in one punch
seriously, the accuracy of this stuff is amazing
the Russian probing assaults were all blown to smithereens
and when you look at the aerial photos from after
almost no craters, every round was a direct hit
like they were waiting for them in an ambush
EVERY single time
Russians still got about 2 weeks or so to the "holiday" le anniversarie + 4 day holiday that would be the IDEAL time to display GREAT Russian victory...
they may do a few more probes, but if they don't find a week spot, cuz Ukraine ALWAYS knows where and when they're gonna attack thanks to America's eyes
then they got a choice...
either attack EVERYWHERE at ONCE with EVERYTHING
or...
dig in for a multi-year trench war
or...
risk escalation with an EMP bomb
we'll know which one in a few more weeks
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A video just been released of more mobiks refusing to fight in Ukraine.
They say they were in Territorial Defence in Kaliningrad,and they were sent to be under the control of the DPR in Ukraine...and then told they were now assault troops.
They received no training to be shock troops,have young and old among them and some are receiving hospital treatment for diseases.
They've had casualties already,no orc Commanders are coming anywhere near the front,and they've now had a gutful .
Sounds like Putler's army is starting to fall apart.
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remember the "Zulu" movie from the 60's?
the one with her majesty's army vrs zulus at Roork's Rift(sp?)
the first wave, is just to test the enemies firepower....
next waves will be to look for "weak spots"
when one is found, that's when the "big tsunami" starts....
right now the crest is off in the distance...building....
4 months until rainy season in Ukraine....
13 months until Russian presidential election
timing is EVERYTHING
The best bit of the 'Zulu' film is the volley fire from the British line. They got it off a treat at Rorke's Drift to such an exceptional standard that it was like a machine gun of constant fire without pause. First line fires, reloads as second line fires, second line fires, reloads as third line fire, then back to first line fully reloaded and firing again.
Piles of dead Zulus stacked up like a mountain as a result.
Rorke's Drift have the British a good defensive position inside a stone wall encampment but of course were surrounded but that would have been the case anyway with a far smaller force.
The defense of Rorke's Drift helped reverse the early military defeat of the British in a much larger battle, as shown in the earlier film, 'Zulu Dawn'. In that battle it is believed that the Zulus were high on drugs so much so that again they would just charge into the enemy gunfire without thought for their lives. Problem was the British were caught out in the open there and so were overwhelmed by the Zulu numbers that kept coming like a wave.
So a parallel there perhaps with present day with Wagner troops possibly been given drugs to charge into enemy gunfire and the big wave of Russian troops.
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A video just been released of more mobiks refusing to fight in Ukraine.
They say they were in Territorial Defence in Kaliningrad,and they were sent to be under the control of the DPR in Ukraine...and then told they were now assault troops.
They received no training to be shock troops,have young and old among them and some are receiving hospital treatment for diseases.
They've had casualties already,no orc Commanders are coming anywhere near the front,and they've now had a gutful .
Sounds like Putler's army is starting to fall apart.
Kaliningrad would be a good territory to revolt. It's cut off from the rest of Russia so would be almost impossible to get troops in to take it back. It's naval forces could be taken over potentially to defend the sea access. Trade wise it's got the whole of Europe to trade with. They could easily say goodbye to Russia and Putler be able to do little about it. Depends on how the troops feel there along with those in command. Could happen anytime successfully or particularly after more large troop number losses. Breaking away from Russia would mean they would be able to cut themselves off from Putler's war.
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Kaliningrad would be a good territory to revolt. It's cut off from the rest of Russia so would be almost impossible to get troops in to take it back. It's naval forces could be taken over potentially to defend the sea access. Trade wise it's got the whole of Europe to trade with. They could easily say goodbye to Russia and Putler be able to do little about it. Depends on how the troops feel there along with those in command. Could happen anytime successfully or particularly after more large troop number losses. Breaking away from Russia would mean they would be able to cut themselves off from Putler's war.
Everything you said could also be said of Hawaii. Kaliningrad isn't going to revolt any sooner
than Honolulu will.
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Everything you said could also be said of Hawaii. Kaliningrad isn't going to revolt any sooner
than Honolulu will.
You want to bet do you? ;D
Speaking of betting men it's a shame our Mobers isn't here to give his view on the Russian Invasion given his wife is Russian and all. BillyB's opinion would be interesting also I know doubt he would support Ukraine given that his wife is Ukrainian.
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BillyB's opinion would be interesting also I know doubt he would support Ukraine given that his wife is Ukrainian.
Not necessarily true. My wife is Russian, and I do not support Russia.
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You want to bet do you? ;D
Speaking of betting men it's a shame our Mobers isn't here to give his view on the Russian Invasion given his wife is Russian and all. BillyB's opinion would be interesting also I know doubt he would support Ukraine given that his wife is Ukrainian.
Moby’s wife is half Russian. I would guess he wouldn’t support Russia.
Billy is MAGA. He views this from the Russian lens.
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Moby’s wife is half Russian. I would guess he wouldn’t support Russia.
Billy is MAGA. He views this from the Russian lens.
I think you're right with Mobers he termed the Belarusian President Lukashouldgo, so I doubt he is for Putler either. Would still be interesting to hear his thoughts on how things have go so far I think.
BillyB surprises me if so, I know he is pro-Trump and so you're likely right that he is also Make America Great Again. I would disagree that leaving Russia to have full reign is the way to do that. I know Billy gets wrapped up in all the political behind the scenes stuff, Biden, his son's activities out there, etc but I see it as more being at stake than all that stuff. I'm fully behind Ukraine although I think they have a tough road ahead.
I understand Russia's motives of seeing former Soviet states drift to the West that they used to feel were compatriots and the power shift there. However, Russia single handedly took it upon themselves to initiate this war on a pretty baseless pretext. Putler being out as an opportunist, aggressive, power grabber who can't be trusted.
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Not necessarily true. My wife is Russian, and I do not support Russia.
A lot of Russian's don't support the invasion so it's easier to not support Russia. Where they support Russia and the western husband doesn't is where I imagine it could get awkward.
Most Ukrainians support Ukraine so usually less difference likely there as in a Ukrainian girl not supporting Ukraine but the guy does. That Billy's wife is Ukrainian is interesting Billy's position I would be surprised if she doesn't support Ukraine but I wouldn't know. My guess would be that Billy may keep any support of Russia quiet like his lack of vaccine jab from her ;)
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Russia using Thermobarbic missiles in Ukraine:
http://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-2-15-23/h_e3d940bf2463b6054fa8403625a9ead9
Apparently pretty destructive stuff.
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in a gulag for Ukrainian children in the far away Urals...
a messiah gathers his army, and a child shall lead them
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Russian media is prepping to make some big announcement in about a week
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Russian Army Finance Minister fell out of window - death attributed to gravity of situation
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A new apocalyptic cult will appear first in Kyiv and then spread throughout Ukraine and then to the rest of the world it will be centered on Chernobyl and a future messiah to save Ukraine
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it will be learned that China has a huge fleet of advanced drones INSIDE the USA on land it owns used for intelligence gathering and capable of striking infrastructure like gas hubs, etc
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Russia is preparing to launch a massive new ICBM into space as a "warning" in a couple of more weeks
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AND A LOT that I can't talk about...
I'm on edge right now, TIMING is everything
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You want to bet do you? ;D
It's my opinion only.
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the Stalingrad reenactment society will be performing not far from the original location at the end of next week.... Russia will be playing the role of the Red Army, and Ukrainians the role of the Fascist Army
due to the high cost of staging these reenactments, after the end of May, all future reenactments will be on a much more restricted, scaled back level, and the show's territory scaled back to pre Feb 2022 areas
meanwhile, Russia's political future depends on finding an anti-Putin "liberal" Presidential politician that is acceptable to the FSB and others, and there is NO such person...
although Tulsi Gabbard has volunteered to learn Russian if she doesn't get the American vote, and will give Russia a try
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That Billy's wife is Ukrainian is interesting Billy's position I would be surprised if she doesn't support Ukraine but I wouldn't know. My guess would be that Billy may keep any support of Russia quiet like his lack of vaccine jab from her ;)
I have noticed that many non-Russian, pro-Russian supporters are anti-vaxers also.
I suspect they're anti-west conspiracy theorists.
It's noticeable they're still not choosing to live in Russia though :rolleyes:
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I don't understand the logic of non-Russians supporting Russia.
Can someone explain this?
And don't get confused with some Republicans in US congress concerned about our budget deficit. They are not against helping Ukraine and they are not supporters of Russia. It is strictly a budget issue.
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I don't understand the logic of non-Russians supporting Russia.
Can someone explain this?
And don't get confused with some Republicans in US congress concerned about our budget deficit. They are not against helping Ukraine and they are not supporters of Russia. It is strictly a budget issue.
I worked with a guy who was very pro-Russia.In every other way he was a nice guy,wasn't even an anti-vaxer either.
He was working-class,English and white,in his fifties,and just felt the west was corrupt in every way,and that things were less corrupt in Russia.
He was adamant that the thought of Russia invading Ukraine was just corrupt western propaganda..just like some of the posters on here who've now made themselves scarce to go and post on the pro-russia site,after being made to look as stupid as they are on here.
So, after Russia did indeed invade Ukraine,i asked him how he felt knowing that all he had believed in all those years was now shown to be so wrong.
His sole reply was "Don't you start,i almost split from my wife last night about this ".
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really ML?
it all comes back to the guy YOU voted for, and his ties to Putin
and the coverup after coverup that followed...
Trump and his supporters are all Putin afficianados
ask Tucker Carlson why he likes Putin so much, something about "anti-wokeness"
by voting for Putin's candidate, YOU helped his agenda
so don't go on pretending you are without sin...
you gulped down the koolaid just like the rest of Jonestown (tasty original flavory!)...
GazProm is funding anti-war protests here in the USA
under the guise of seeking peace
"think of the poor suffering people"
it's just as FAKE as the arguments Republicans have come up with about the cost of supporting Ukraine
with the same underlying intent
but instead of understanding this...
because you live in dumbfuckistan
you need to find a koolaid stand instead...
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Russia is losing as many as 2000 men for every 100 yards gained in human wave assaults in Eastern Ukraine ,according to NATO Intelligence.
Source: thetimes.co.uk
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He was working-class,English and white,in his fifties,and just felt the west was corrupt in every way,and that things were less corrupt in Russia.
ROFL at anyone who thinks Russia isn't corrupt.
Yeah, their president, who was driving a taxi after the collapse of the USSR, is now worth over $88 billion (reportedly) due solely to his prescient investment activities.
The mistress he had a child with went from being a maid to a millionaire "bank owner" thanks to her outstanding work ethic. :-\
Ask him how many millionaires with deep ties to Western governments have fallen out of windows in the West.
Please point those things out to him.
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really ML?
it all comes back to the guy YOU voted for, and his ties to Putin
and the coverup after coverup that followed...
Trump and his supporters are all Putin afficianados
ask Tucker Carlson why he likes Putin so much, something about "anti-wokeness"
by voting for Putin's candidate, YOU helped his agenda
so don't go on pretending you are without sin...
you gulped down the koolaid just like the rest of Jonestown (tasty original flavory!)...
GazProm is funding anti-war protests here in the USA
under the guise of seeking peace
"think of the poor suffering people"
it's just as FAKE as the arguments Republicans have come up with about the cost of supporting Ukraine
with the same underlying intent
but instead of understanding this...
because you live in dumbfuckistan
you need to find a koolaid stand instead...
You still didn't address the issue of why some normal people are supporting Russia.
Just because someone voted for X candidate does not mean they support Russia.
Yes, by voting for X candidate Putin may have been strengthened, but that still doesn't mean the voter supports Russia.
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and here's your answer....
the photo shown below partially explains the origin of Putin worship in dumfuckistan
repeat a lie often enough and it will be headlines for the rubes on Fox
but the REAL appeal of Putin to Westerners is fascism-LITE
fascism-LITE (all the great tatse of fascism, but less filling)
is a pushback to the AWFUL burdens of liberalism
le petit fascists don't worry over pronouns or equal rights
fascists yearn only for freedumb and the restoration of Christian traditional values (wink, wink) that are being replaced by liberalism...
liberalism and fascism don't mix very well, they have different densities
oligarchs choose fascism, cuz liberalism leads to socialism
which would make oligarchs extinct
and thus oligarch media will be anti-liberal
and that essentially sums up everything
the rest you can figure out on your own
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I have met no person in USA who supports the Russian terrorist invasion of Ukraine.
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well here, let me introduce you to your fellow republicans who support Putin more than they support the elected President of the USA
http://accountability.gop/ukraine-quotes/
they're YOUR people ML...
and I'm SURE you understand them just fine...
bottom line, as a former Trump voter, you are responsible for enabling Trump's behavior towards Ukraine and the damage it caused
you wanna see an American who supported Putin
look in the freakin mirror....
and it doesn't matter one bit if you were cognizant of this fact when you did it or not
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I don't understand the logic of non-Russians supporting Russia.
Can someone explain this?
And don't get confused with some Republicans in US congress concerned about our budget deficit. They are not against helping Ukraine and they are not supporters of Russia. It is strictly a budget issue.
I don't understand the logic either, but as krimster seems to state, it closely correlates with the nationalist/Trumpist movement. Evidence abounds at 'another' FSUW-related forum, often promulgated by those who believe in conspiracy theories and related pro-Russia propaganda. IMO, Trump is a Putin/autocrat wannabe, and his followers sing the same tune.
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To state once again what I have posted more than once in other threads:
I did not vote for Trump, nor did I vote for any other person.
Those who understand how the two party system in USA works will always vote a party line.
If some persons of your party are undesirable in some respect, you vote for them anyway.
If you cross party lines and vote for others . . . then you are voting for those who will seek to implement laws and policies that you oppose.
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ML,
I wasn't pointing a finger :) The GOP currently suffers from the tyranny of a minority faction. Unfortunately, this excess baggage puts national policies, supported by the majority of the population, i.e. Ukraine support and the debt ceiling, at risk. This is the downside of our two-party, and nowadays, very adversarial system.
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you did't directly vote for Trump, because you indirectly voted for Trump, is something Trump would say...
doesn't matter...
all that Trump did is on people like YOU...
including Ukraine
including hundreds of thousands of dead Americans....
all on you
Make America Great, did you?
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I am convinced, and always have been, that Trump is compromised by the Russians. If I had to guess, I would guess it’s with money. The Soviets started working on Trump, allegedly, in 1980. I don’t find it coincidental that his first wife was a Czech who travelled there freely
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ROFL at anyone who thinks Russia isn't corrupt.
Yeah, their president, who was driving a taxi after the collapse of the USSR, is now worth over $88 billion (reportedly) due solely to his prescient investment activities.
The mistress he had a child with went from being a maid to a millionaire "bank owner" thanks to her outstanding work ethic. :-\
Ask him how many millionaires with deep ties to Western governments have fallen out of windows in the West.
Please point those things out to him.
We no longer work together.I did say i'd pop round and see him during last summer but i never did..purely because of his pro Russian stance.
He was an avid watcher of RussianTV for his news information..said western media outlets all lie to the gullible's..
Maybe now it can no longer broadcast in the UK he's being weaned off the Kremlin propaganda.
When i asked him how he could justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine his reply was that it was to liberate Russian speakers from the tyranny of the Ukrainian Government.
When news came out that the Russians were actually killing Russian speakers in Ukraine by firing artillery rounds into their homes and dropping bombs onto them,i asked him how he felt now about what the Russians were doing he just smiled weakly and said "yeah i know".
I think when people are set in their ways and beliefs nothing is going to change their mentality.
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I don't understand the logic either, but as krimster seems to state, it closely correlates with the nationalist/Trumpist movement. Evidence abounds at 'another' FSUW-related forum, often promulgated by those who believe in conspiracy theories and related pro-Russia propaganda. IMO, Trump is a Putin/autocrat wannabe, and his followers sing the same tune.
I agree with the above. My observation is that Putinistas tend to not only be on the right of the political spectrum, but that they are usually racist (denying it, of course), and support so called "traditional" values, which really never existed and certainly don't exist in Russia.
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all great artists steal their ideas from other great artists that they admire...
very little originality going on in the world...
fundamental problem of ALL oligarchies
how do you get the masses to behave for the benefit of oligarchs and not look out for their own interests (which are in opposition to the oligarchs)
huh? how ya gonna manage the masses?
Trump has to get poor people to vote for the economic benefit of the .1%
Putin has to get people at the bottom of the social ladder to sacrifice their children's lives for his vain ambitions
same basic problem, same solution...
you make sure the masses are all an ignorant bunch of dumb asses
then you can tell 'em whatever lame story you want
you just have to repeat it alot
this is the world dumb asses live in
sooner or later the red hats are gonna come for your kids
how do I know?
cuz they already TRIED TO TAKE MINE
and that's all I can say about that
meanwhile, a drone of unknown origin landed about a mile away from my former homestead in crimea*...
and now my old hangout at Inkerman, (I have some amazing photos of exploring the 1,000 yr old cave churches there)
has been taken over by the Russian military who are stashing cruise missiles inside the cave monastary
next we'll hear NATO has missiles hiden in the Vatican as well
and we will have a holy intercine religious war
gott is mit uns
if he doesn't get bogged down doing bog stuff
*major disappointment that I couldn't acquire this drone, locals handed it over to the miltsa instead of a collector
in Israel, I liked to collect Iron Dome Rocket fragments, local kids would scout for me for shekels, known as "Scud Crud" super collectible
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natural gas price in Amsterdam is at a 2 yr low...
notice how Russia no longer talks about an energy war
that's because there isn't one
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Germany, IIRC EU largest consumer reports:
The gas supply in Germany is stable. The security of supply is safeguarded. Overall, the Bundesnetzagentur views the situation as less tense than at the beginning of the winter. It is unlikely that there will be a gas deficit situation this winter. At the same time, preparing for the 2023-2024 winter is a key challenge. It is therefore still important to save gas.
Gas is mainly being taken out of storage. The total storage level in Germany is 71.86%.
Gas consumption in the week beginning 6 February 2023 was 17% below the average consumption for 2018 to 2021 and up by 8.6% compared with the week before. Temperatures were 0.1°C higher than in the previous years.
http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/EN/Areas/Energy/Companies/SecurityOfSupply/GasSupply/start.html
When the crisis came about, many consumers, households, and industries started taking a good look at their consumption and ways to save energy. We did some things here at home and are consuming roughly half of the pre-war levels, without sacrificing comfort.
I believe the marketplace has re-oriented itself, and efforts to wean from RU energy sources is quite comprehensive and will continue.
With China, India and a few stragglers buying RU fossil fuels at very steep discounts, I think Putin greatly underestimated the resolve and resilience of the West and is in deep trouble long term as their energy export-driven economy winds down. Things are catching up with him quickly, with the west investing in new infrastructure and sourcing.
"Don't bite the hand that feeds you." comes to mind.
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I have to be VERY careful when I talk to Russians both domestic and abroad, none of us can talk about where are children are and what they're doing and what they're going through,
even though this topic is foremost on our minds.
paronoia in Russia is REALLY bad right now, and guess what
in Russia this is normal!!
why are you asking anyway?
The Russian economy is sinking, autmobile production is down over 60% is just one sign
Before the war, Russia’s resource-based economy depended mainly on the exploitation of the country’s oil and gas reserves and other stuff ya dig outta the ground. The government saw the Russian population largely as service personnel for the pipeline going to the West: any profits from this would only reach them in the form of rather meagre rations and a cheap korean smartphone.
The Russian leadership, and the businessmen entrusted by them to manage this flow of resources, could live their lives separately from the common folk, increasing their rations from time to time and encouraging people with the talk of past greatness and present superiority over those on the receiving end of the pipeline.
everything succeeds up to the point that if fails and Putin gambled one time too many
and like every gambler who gets a lucky initial bet and doesn't fold
putin bet himself into a corner and his luck has run out
he is as SOL as he can be...
he can put Russia on a diet, minimum public spending on health, housing, etc but MAX on military and he has the reserves to keep the system running with current inflows for about 2 more years, but he will exhaust ALL foreign financial reserves
at that point, the only alternative is to convert EVERYTHING in the budget to rubles
and run the ruble printing presses like mad, and watch inflation soar to 100% per year
by March, 2024, when the presidential election is held, Russia's GDP will be 15% BELOW what it was in 2014!!!!!
Hey Russians are you better off then you were 10 years ago????
LOL
think how much insurance payments, fur coats and bags of noodles the Russian Federation is burning through EACH DAY right now
tell china we will sell Taiwan Trident Ballistic Submarines (as many as they want with the nukes!) like the UK, if even ONE Chinese bullet ends up in Russia
since I've been forced to leave Russia I have not allowed myself to have any hope of ever returning (even though I have LOTS of reasons to want to)
my beloved October country
I was like a spark returning to the fire
only seen in my dreams now
like an old friend who has died
you feel warm and sad
german must have a word for this emotion
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I was like a spark returning to the fire
only seen in my dreams now
like an old friend who has died
you feel warm and sad
german must have a word for this emotion
Sehnsucht.
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Sehn·sucht, hmmm oichen kuzna, with just a hint of nostalgie!
what better fare for dreams then this
a receiver tuned in to your own frequency
watching your old reruns
of happy days in a bright green Moscva park next to the river
especially with the right drug combination before bedtime to enhance lucid dreaming
into the arms of morpheos after the blood/brain barrier is crossed like the river styx and it gets to the far shore...
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CNN reporting that Polish civilians are now rushing to get 16 days military training as they gear up to try and repel a potential Russian orc invasion.
Meanwhile Putler did his speech to his zombie nation today,telling them how the west started this war as we seek to end their civilization.( hopefully we may well seek that now actually after this latest bout of terrorism from them )
It does seem rather contradictory how a nation defends itself by invading neighbours with the intention of rape,pillage and murder of the inhabitants....but those Ruski zombies suck up anything their deranged idiotic leader says...or do they really care what the motives were anyway,as massive blood-letting from their military is rather cool anyway in their sick minds.
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DeSantis should copy Putin's anti-woke message, oh never mind, Putin copied it from DeSantis
as America becomes more and more like Russia
and Russia becomes more and more like America
under the stewardship of global anti-woke oligarchies making the world safe for kleptocracy
the only surprise in the speech was Russia leaving the SALT treaty and preparing to detonate a nuke somewhere (in Russia...sure help yourself!!)
sure, if ya'll wanna start a nuclear arms race with the USA, go right ahead
remember the Pershing II missiles in Germany? that's old news
now they'll be MUCH closer in Poland, Latvia, Finland, etc and one day even Ukraine
and yours will still be in...checking paper... Russia, another genuis move
Russia vrs NATO?
97% of Russia's military is currently occupied with Ukraine
and now ya wanna add the militaries from USA, Canada, UK, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Poland, and on and on... ON TOP OF THAT? and god forbid Luxumburg!!!
it's good the Russians still have that 3% in reserve LOL!!!
my simple spreadsheet model of equipment losses predicts
that by the Russian presidential election, half of all Russia's military equipment will have been lost, and the half that remains is the worst half and not the best
a year from now, and Russia will not be able to defend itself and with its industry crippled, it will take 10 years to replenish
any longer than that, and the Russian military will be so weak, it may not be able to fight off private armies and separatists that are only growing stronger
Russia's position gets weaker, the longer the war goes on
and conversely the West is getting stronger
the USA's LNG industry is eating Russia's lunch...
Lada can only paint the few cars it makes in either black or white, cuz they no longer can make the other colors (even the original orange!)
Putin never once in his two hour speech
mentioned ANYTHING about what the Ukrainian people wanted in this struggle
cuz he has recast the struggle as him vrs the evil west and its demonic wokeness
making it an idealogical war
instead of about grabbing territory from your neighbors cuz you can't figure out any other way of getting a bigger piece of pie
Putin is like Wile E Coyote, evertime he tries to throw a bomb a the road runner, it blows up in his face
and everytime he doubles down using more powder for the nexct time...
well...
guess what?
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http://www.cnn.com/2023/02/21/politics/russia-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-test/index.html
the best laid plans of mice and men,
hey Vlad, guess what?
THE MAP IS NOT THE TERRITORY!!
the best thing the Russian people can do is have their own Maidan in Moscva, yes hundreds, maybe thousands will die, but that's just a day or two on the front
do you Russians wanna be slaves forever, or are ya gonna stand up for your kid's futures
so does this mean "THE OFFENSIVE" is also "kaput"?
is there some kinda plan of action, or is the Russian army just a big mob that fights with whatever gets in their way of looting and pillaging
my advice to ya'll if you gonna pick some place to pillage, Ukraine ain't it...have yo seen Monaco? they don't even have a military
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Apparently according to this US ex-Marine guy fighting in Ukraine the average life expectancy is about 4hours:
http://ca.movies.yahoo.com/average-life-expectancy-front-line-184101568.html
That's pretty shocking and would detail that Ukraine is also taking heavy losses, probably not as heavy as the Russians but likely a lot all the same. As the guy says both sides are firing huge amounts of artillery shells at each other every day and of course those artillery shells are going to land on each other.
Many casualties also on both sides and I'm guessing some quite badly maimed. From what is known of the Ukrainian & Russian welfare system odds are they will be cast aside with only possibly their families to help them if they are lucky enough.
No real figures on casualties out at the moment that will likely only happen at the end of the conflict whenever that may be. I'm going to guess Ukraine has lost approximately 150,000 troops while Russia has lost around 200,000 troops, maybe more including Wagner. Those figures may seem on the high side but judging from the anecdotal evidence a distinct possibility perhaps.
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Several reports out over last few days that China may be about to sell weapons to Russia:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/19/china-may-be-on-brink-of-supplying-arms-to-russia-says-blinken
My guess is that China has been waiting to see how the balance of power in the war sits in Ukraine before doing so. They likely don't want Ukraine (the West) to win but also probably don't want Russia (their border neighbour) to win and end up with a more powerful Russia on its border. My guess is that they will only sell Russia weapons to prop it up if they start losing badly and are getting pushed out of Ukraine. That way they can profiteer out of the war and weaken both the West and Russia it's potential adversaries. With the West supplying modern tanks to Ukraine then that could be seen as unbalancing the war in Ukraine's favour. If China is willing to sell weapons to Russia to equalise Russia's position in the war then it could make the situation in Ukraine tricky indeed with no end in sight.
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Apparently according to this US ex-Marine guy fighting in Ukraine the average life expectancy is about 4hours:
http://ca.movies.yahoo.com/average-life-expectancy-front-line-184101568.html (http://ca.movies.yahoo.com/average-life-expectancy-front-line-184101568.html)
That's pretty shocking and would detail that Ukraine is also taking heavy losses, probably not as heavy as the Russians but likely a lot all the same. As the guy says both sides are firing huge amounts of artillery shells at each other every day and of course those artillery shells are going to land on each other.
Many casualties also on both sides and I'm guessing some quite badly maimed. From what is known of the Ukrainian & Russian welfare system odds are they will be cast aside with only possibly their families to help them if they are lucky enough.
No real figures on casualties out at the moment that will likely only happen at the end of the conflict whenever that may be. I'm going to guess Ukraine has lost approximately 150,000 troops while Russia has lost around 200,000 troops, maybe more including Wagner. Those figures may seem on the high side but judging from the anecdotal evidence a distinct possibility perhaps.
i've been following four soldiers fighting for Ukraine since the start of the orc invasion...two from the USA,and two Ukrainians.
Guess what ? They're all still alive and two of them are fighting in the Bakhmut battles..
I' watched a video of a Ukrainian soldier last week...he volunteered as soon as the orcs invaded,fought at Pisky and is currently part of a mortar team at Bakhmut...he's 71 and as of last week still alive.His hobby is mountain climbing,hence why he's stayed fit..heavy smoker though.
Two Ukrainian students who you may remember as being interviewed at the very start of the war as they were just conscripted and clearly nervous,have just been interviewed on the BBC again today...both still alive,although one of them was wounded but back out there fighting again...and they're still only twenty years old.
I remember one of them,studying to be an Accountant, saying at the time of their conscription "I'm really scared to die....but my country must be defended ".
I cannot comment on the orc lifespan in the war,but as far as the Ukrainian side is concerned the four hour life expectancy is total BS.
By the way the Russian losses,as the attacking force,are likely to be three times higher than the Ukraine losses as the defending force..it's how wars work .
That's why the Ukrainian forces aren't currently advancing,concentrating on holding the line instead and inflicting massive losses on the orcs.
The Ukrainians will start their counter-offensive in the spring ,when the mud has dried out,and the orcs will be on their knees again after suffering massive losses..
I see you're using a dodgy source there again Trenchie..yahoo.com :rolleyes:
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My bluff of 1 year ago for "consequences you've never seen " was correct.
You've never seen a military screw up this much .
I remain a master strategist.
Darth Putin@DarthPutinKGB
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I cannot comment on the orc lifespan in the war,but as far as the Ukrainian side is concerned the four hour life expectancy is total BS.
By the way the Russian losses,as the attacking force,are likely to be three times higher than the Ukraine losses as the defending force..it's how wars work .
That's why the Ukrainian forces aren't currently advancing,concentrating on holding the line instead and inflicting massive losses on the orcs.
The Ukrainians will start their counter-offensive in the spring ,when the mud has dried out,and the orcs will be on their knees again after suffering massive losses..
The guy might mean right at the front line, there's being at the front then there's being right in the front line as in the closest to the fighting. I don't doubt that attackers usually invariably take higher losses so it makes sense for Ukraine to stay on the defensive and hope Russia gets worn out and totally demoralised like they did during WWI. I still think there is likely sone truth in what the guy said being the interviewed but probably wasn't clear enough on the specifics. It stands to reason to me that if Russia is firing loads of artillery a lot of it is going to fall on someone and the same vice versa, no one is impervious to mortar shells landing on them.
Well 1 year anniversary of war today and its still going on, one wonders for how much longer I don't see no end in sight as yet.
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By the way the Russian losses,as the attacking force,are likely to be three times higher than the Ukraine losses as the defending force..it's how wars work .
That 3 to 1 idea might be an 'old husband's' tale.
http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/2018/03/05/comparing-the-rand-version-of-the-31-rule-to-real-world-data/
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That 3 to 1 idea might be an 'old husband's' tale.
http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/2018/03/05/comparing-the-rand-version-of-the-31-rule-to-real-world-data/ (http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/2018/03/05/comparing-the-rand-version-of-the-31-rule-to-real-world-data/)
I actually think the orc losses are much higher than 3 to 1.
I say that because the Ukrainians are not hiding their soldiers losses...every dead soldier is given a military funeral and the Ukrainian flag flys over his/her grave once buried.
If anyone was to drive around Ukraine and count the Ukrainian flags flying over graves they will find out exactly how many of their troops lives have been lost...there are a lot in Kyiv,but not as many in other cities and towns from what i've seen.
However,the orcs often just etch their deads names on a memoriam and in one region they'd run out of space there were so many.
Unlike the orcs,the Ukrainians don't leave their dead rotting in trenches,fields and forests...they bring their heroes home for a proper burial.
I've actually seen a video of a Ukrainian soldiers procession to burial..it was very moving as hundreds of cars and lorries stopped in his home town with the occupants getting out and kneeling and bowing their heads by their vehicles, in tribute to the fallen soldier,whilst the military coffins bearers do the slow walk in step to the drum.
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What about the bodies the Ukrainians can't recover?
I have a lady friend who is an assistant to frontline doctors. She's currently in Bakhmut. 2 days ago, the house in Bakhmut they had been staying in and using as a field hospital was bombed and burned. All the people she had been working with were killed. She survived because she was on the road transporting wounded. She was very distraught when I talked to her.
Не можем забрать тела погибших и передать родителям.
русские черти поливат все огнем, не позволяют нам забирать погибших.
(We can't take the bodies of the dead and give them to their parents. The Russian devils pour all the fire, do not allow us to take the dead.)
I told her that soon more western weapons would arrive, and they would make the Russians pay.
Пока приедет обещаное оружие нас может уже небыть в живых
(By the time the promised weapons arrive, we may no longer be alive.)
Even now, Ukraine is finding the remains of bodies of servicemen in areas Ukraine has recaptured. Only then are they moved from the missing category to the killed statistics. Ukraine is only able to recover bodies from Ukrainian held territory.
I suspect that Ukrainian losses are higher than what is officially reported.
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What about the bodies the Ukrainians can't recover?
I have a lady friend who is an assistant to frontline doctors. She's currently in Bakhmut. 2 days ago, the house in Bakhmut they had been staying in and using as a field hospital was bombed and burned. All the people she had been working with were killed. She survived because she was on the road transporting wounded. She was very distraught when I talked to her.
Не можем забрать тела погибших и передать родителям.
русские черти поливат все огнем, не позволяют нам забирать погибших.
(We can't take the bodies of the dead and give them to their parents. The Russian devils pour all the fire, do not allow us to take the dead.)
I told her that soon more western weapons would arrive, and they would make the Russians pay.
Пока приедет обещаное оружие нас может уже небыть в живых
(By the time the promised weapons arrive, we may no longer be alive.)
Even now, Ukraine is finding the remains of bodies of servicemen in areas Ukraine has recaptured. Only then are they moved from the missing category to the killed statistics. Ukraine is only able to recover bodies from Ukrainian held territory.
I suspect that Ukrainian losses are higher than what is officially reported.
You see now why I said your lady should have done a runner. It could have so easily have been her killed along with the rest of them and it is no doubt playing on her mind that she was almost it being that way. That and of course not putting all your eggs in one basket, she got real lucky that day but there is no guarantees about the future, she could be killed tommorow, next week, next month, several years time if the the war goes on that long.
It's good at least that you have come forward with her situation Beefarmer as it does at least show how precarious life can be out there at the moment. CB seems to think most Ukrainians are impervious to being hit or if they do it doesn't effect them. Sure Russian losses are almost certainly higher as they have disregard for their troops but Ukrainian troops are under massive artillery bombardment each day and are literally being carpet bombed by it all. They are doing well despite this but I'm not so sure how long they can keep it up before they break. Western tanks need to get there soon as they'll need them to avoid being hammered into oblivion.
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such touching poignant moments...
between you and your imaginary soldier girl friend
Hawg Hollar must be quite the cosmopolitan metropolis to get such a major playboy figure like you!!! LOL
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You see now why I said your lady should have done a runner. It could have so easily have been her killed along with the rest of them and it is no doubt playing on her mind that she was almost it being that way. That and of course not putting all your eggs in one basket, she got real lucky that day but there is no guarantees about the future, she could be killed tommorow, next week, next month, several years time if the the war goes on that long.
It's good at least that you have come forward with her situation Beefarmer as it does at least show how precarious life can be out there at the moment. CB seems to think most Ukrainians are impervious to being hit or if they do it doesn't effect them. Sure Russian losses are almost certainly higher as they have disregard for their troops but Ukrainian troops are under massive artillery bombardment each day and are literally being carpet bombed by it all. They are doing well despite this but I'm not so sure how long they can keep it up before they break. Western tanks need to get there soon as they'll need them to avoid being hammered into oblivion.
Well MOST Ukrainians haven't been hit....that's a fact.
That doesn't mean that plenty haven't...too many in a senseless war driven by murderous Russian terrorists.
The orcs are also under massive artillery bombardment..from higher precision 155mm artillery than the 152mm artlllery they have.....so their losses are far higher.
The Ukrainians soldiers are also armed with better equipment than the orcs,which the orcs are constantly complaining about on their Telegram channels...things like Thermal sights .
Orcs are bleating "The farkin enemy can see us at night whilst we can't see them".
They are also complaining that the Ukrainians have built "underground concrete cities",so when artillery hits their positions,when the smoke clears the Ukrainians are back out in the trenches firing at them .
The Ukrainians also have better body armour than the orcs when they do get hit.
Guess what ? All this leads to far higher orc losses than the Ukrainians are experiencing...despite your regular posts which try to determine otherwise,as if you take a morbid glee in it.
If you're hoping all the young Ukrainian men are going to be killed,leaving you with little competition for the Ukrainian hotties that remain,because you'd have absolutely no chance of competing with war heroes...then think again.
I don't know if you realize that whilst Russia is throwing all their forces into this current offensive,Ukraine is holding back most of their forces in preparation for the spring counter-offensive.
The first Leopard Tanks arrived in Ukraine yesterday...when the rest arrive along with the Challenger Tanks and the mud dries out,watch in awe as you see what happens to the orcs.
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Trench, go to your local thrift shops, and see if you can score an old territorial uniform that will fit you...
go on ebay.uk and buy some "Right Sector" and other Ukrainian patches
if you can't sew em on yourself, then ask your ma
two problems solved: attire and chick magnet
practice strutting around in your uniform slapping your hip with leather gloves
Twice, I wore a uniform for REAL, were absolute chick magnets...
in Russia, I put on a dead relatives full military uniform I found in his closet
he was a col
his uniform fit me perfectly
and without my family's knowledge, I went out to various public places in the uniform
nodding curtly to people as I passed them....
this is how I developed my reputation in Russia
by doing absolutely insane stuff like this...
in Russia you are what you do
and you do what you are
I see some early signs the war is coming to Krim
reiterated to dumb phuque putin loving relatives they should leave and go to Rostov
but no, they are dumb phuques
the only bright spot in the sea of misery
is the end...
wars end
can you imagine being in Odesa or Kyiv on the new Victory Day like being in London for VE-Day
sweeeeet
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Guess what ? All this leads to far higher orc losses than the Ukrainians are experiencing...despite your regular posts which try to determine otherwise,as if you take a morbid glee in it.
If you're hoping all the young Ukrainian men are going to be killed,leaving you with little competition for the Ukrainian hotties that remain,because you'd have absolutely no chance of competing with war heroes...then think again.
I don't take morbid glee in it but it's more about being realistic. That's the only thing that counts in these situations at the end of the day. You've seen the images of Bakhmut on TV the place is pretty much flattened by Russian Artillery, that's what they do they go in carpet bomb the place and force the defenders out, eventually. During that carpet bombing many defenders will be killed, they can't avoid tall of the shelving as it happens all at once. Sure Ukrainian have some longer range artillery but we're talking hugh numbers if Russian Artillery here too much for Ukraine to get them all. I don't think Ukraine's chances are hopeless and I hope they prevail but in all realisticity it's won't be going down as one sided Ukrainian superiority as you seem to think, they will be getting hammered hard and taking significant casualties along the way.
On the Ukrainian woman issue I think you are forgetting one thing, the thing that is most important to many Ukrainian women is that the guy is a provider. A dead Ukrainian hero boyfriend, husband, etc no longer fulfills that role. They are no longer of any use to her and it will be a guy with money/who can provide who trump them. Women have their emotional moments but out side of them they're is a very practical core to them. They can only exist in the present and what happened yesterday is of little use to them if it no longer helps them in the present. So I need not go off and become a war hero to impress them, even if I did it would still be ability to provide which would weigh in at the end of the day.
I was reading an article just yesterday that pointed out that there will be a demographic problem at the end of the war in Ukraine and if Russia keeps burning through men heavily probably in Russia as well. It said that most don't like to speak of it at the moment as the focus is really on the war and trying to achieve victory. However Ukraine has a much smaller population than Russia. It can only afford to lose so many men before it becomes a problem. Most Ukrainian women if course aren't at the front and won't be drafted so it's a one sided gender loss for the most part. Ironically the MOB dating talk of, 'there being more women to men' in the FSU might finally be coming true and coming home to roost now. It is terrible to say that as it's Ukrainian guys who are suffering miserable deaths at the front. So I take no glee in it nor wished for it, it was not my doing but it is as it is. However, in theory it does mean that it could help solve the western dating problem at least for those guys willing to get out there and at the same time provide the practical solution for women of who to date/provide for them. Western guys such as myself can step into the breach on that one, it helps us and it helps them. I've suffered bad times growing up in the UK, first feminism and females entering the workforce and lowering wages, then the EU and East European immigration lowering wages and pushing up house prices and so getting in where the going is good for a change I make no bones about as the way I see it I'm more than overdue for circumstances that favour me rather than work against me.
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"circumstances that favor you"
are more likely to happen when you apply some thought and effort into making them happen as opposed to being passive
and if you don't put out very much effort into your life, then don't blame the ones who do and then get ahead of you
it's not their fault
now is it?
it's what I keep tellin ya'll
this AIN'T an external problem
but an internal one
you are who caused you to be where you are
and not someone else
so get focused on a plan
and DO IT!!!
you can't change the world
but you can change yourself
you can be better than you are
you could be swinging on a star
and all the monkeys aren't in a zoo
they sometimes call them Bee Farmer to
a seed spillin fool,
who plays excessively with his little tool
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Trench,
I have to agree with your analysis, it makes common sense.
If I were still looking, I would be wondering what my preferences would be between seeking a Ukrainian woman and a Russian woman?
Being somewhat of a critical thinker and rational decision maker I would have a hard time wanting to pursue someone that thinks invading a sovereign country to expand it's territory is rational or moral.
It's been a fairly peaceful 10 years in Redlands and my wife and daughter (14) got to experience local snow for the first time in about 10 years here.
Wife's mother in her 80's is having a hard time in Kiev and her older brother is also having a hard time finding enough work to feed his family. We have been sending money to them to help them out. Hopefully this damned war will not go on forever.
Hi to all the old names I see that are still active on the forum.
Doug, Larissa, Lisa
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I don't take morbid glee in it but it's more about being realistic. That's the only thing that counts in these situations at the end of the day. You've seen the images of Bakhmut on TV the place is pretty much flattened by Russian Artillery, that's what they do they go in carpet bomb the place and force the defenders out, eventually. During that carpet bombing many defenders will be killed, they can't avoid tall of the shelving as it happens all at once. Sure Ukrainian have some longer range artillery but we're talking hugh numbers if Russian Artillery here too much for Ukraine to get them all. I don't think Ukraine's chances are hopeless and I hope they prevail but in all realisticity it's won't be going down as one sided Ukrainian superiority as you seem to think, they will be getting hammered hard and taking significant casualties along the way.
On the Ukrainian woman issue I think you are forgetting one thing, the thing that is most important to many Ukrainian women is that the guy is a provider. A dead Ukrainian hero boyfriend, husband, etc no longer fulfills that role. They are no longer of any use to her and it will be a guy with money/who can provide who trump them. Women have their emotional moments but out side of them they're is a very practical core to them. They can only exist in the present and what happened yesterday is of little use to them if it no longer helps them in the present. So I need not go off and become a war hero to impress them, even if I did it would still be ability to provide which would weigh in at the end of the day.
I was reading an article just yesterday that pointed out that there will be a demographic problem at the end of the war in Ukraine and if Russia keeps burning through men heavily probably in Russia as well. It said that most don't like to speak of it at the moment as the focus is really on the war and trying to achieve victory. However Ukraine has a much smaller population than Russia. It can only afford to lose so many men before it becomes a problem. Most Ukrainian women if course aren't at the front and won't be drafted so it's a one sided gender loss for the most part. Ironically the MOB dating talk of, 'there being more women to men' in the FSU might finally be coming true and coming home to roost now. It is terrible to say that as it's Ukrainian guys who are suffering miserable deaths at the front. So I take no glee in it nor wished for it, it was not my doing but it is as it is. However, in theory it does mean that it could help solve the western dating problem at least for those guys willing to get out there and at the same time provide the practical solution for women of who to date/provide for them. Western guys such as myself can step into the breach on that one, it helps us and it helps them. I've suffered bad times growing up in the UK, first feminism and females entering the workforce and lowering wages, then the EU and East European immigration lowering wages and pushing up house prices and so getting in where the going is good for a change I make no bones about as the way I see it I'm more than overdue for circumstances that favour me rather than work against me.
Unlike calmissile i don't agree.
Sexy Svetlana has seen Vlad the local guy go off and fight for Ukraine and to save her and her family from the ravishing orc hordes.
She knows he fancies her...what sane guy wouldn't,with her gorgeous face and body to die for...but he doesn't earn much money,so she's in communication with some foreign guys who promise her the Earth.
He comes back on leave from time to time wearing his hero of Ukraine medals and his uniform,where he gets swamped with adulation by the locals...and they get to know each other better...there's even a tik tok video out there,played to really cool music,where he's climbing through trenches and slaughtering invading orcs.It was downloaded to twitter and has 150k likes already.
The war eventually ends and the demonic ors have been routed and local celeb hot Vlad is back and getting soooo much work thrown at him rebuilding her shattered country he's actually becoming rather well off...and he's even started to build a rather impressive place to live.
A lot of foreigners are coming to Ukraine now,including where she lives,to see the country that smashed Russia,and they all want to meet Vlad because he's such a hero...some invite him to have dinner with them and he's inviting her to join him and he's making big contacts now.
He took her to Kyiv last week ,where he was presented with all this stuff from President Zelensky as a thank you for his heroics.
She does like him...she was worried when he was away fighting the orcs...and of course they speak the same language and have shared experiences about the war,and all her family worship the ground he walks on.
There is this guy from the UK who likes her,who cowered there instead of coming to help Ukrainian people by doing aid runs.She knows he's not a fighter,but she thinks he could at least have helped her country in need.She has a friend who hooked up with a guy from the UK who met her whilst delivering some food and generators to where she lives...but the guy from the UK who has the hots for sexy Svetlana is not heroic at all...he clearly doesn't give a shite about her country and she suspects he's just a sex tourist looking to take advantage of the situation.
I know where my money is on which bloke she'll choose to be with.
By the way 20% of the Ukrainian troops at the front are....women.
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On the Ukrainian woman issue I think you are forgetting one thing, the thing that is most
important to many Ukrainian women is that the guy is a provider. A dead Ukrainian hero
boyfriend, husband, etc no longer fulfills that role. They are no longer of any use to her
and it will be a guy with money/who can provide who trump them.
You pretend that you have the primary thing
that FSUW want. Hahahahahahahaha!
Get off your incel website and into real life. Buy a ticket, rent an apartment and stop
with the excuses. They want a man of action, be a man of action.
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Unlike calmissile i don't agree.
Sexy Svetlana has seen Vlad the local guy go off and fight for Ukraine and to save her and her family from the ravishing orc hordes.
She knows he fancies her...what sane guy wouldn't,with her gorgeous face and body to die for...but he doesn't earn much money,so she's in communication with some foreign guys who promise her the Earth.
He comes back on leave from time to time wearing his hero of Ukraine medals and his uniform,where he gets swamped with adulation by the locals...and they get to know each other better...there's even a tik tok video out there,played to really cool music,where he's climbing through trenches and slaughtering invading orcs.It was downloaded to twitter and has 150k likes already.
The war eventually ends and the demonic ors have been routed and local celeb hot Vlad is back and getting soooo much work thrown at him rebuilding her shattered country he's actually becoming rather well off...and he's even started to build a rather impressive place to live.
A lot of foreigners are coming to Ukraine now,including where she lives,to see the country that smashed Russia,and they all want to meet Vlad because he's such a hero...some invite him to have dinner with them and he's inviting her to join him and he's making big contacts now.
He took her to Kyiv last week ,where he was presented with all this stuff from President Zelensky as a thank you for his heroics.
She does like him...she was worried when he was away fighting the orcs...and of course they speak the same language and have shared experiences about the war,and all her family worship the ground he walks on.
There is this guy from the UK who likes her,who cowered there instead of coming to help Ukrainian people by doing aid runs.She knows he's not a fighter,but she thinks he could at least have helped her country in need.She has a friend who hooked up with a guy from the UK who met her whilst delivering some food and generators to where she lives...but the guy from the UK who has the hots for sexy Svetlana is not heroic at all...he clearly doesn't give a shite about her country and she suspects he's just a sex tourist looking to take advantage of the situation.
I know where my money is on which bloke she'll choose to be with.
By the way 20% of the Ukrainian troops at the front are....women.
As said before it depends on what being at the front actually means, some are likely in supporting roles not actually on the front line but near it, some may be like Beefarmer's supposed lady friend and be in the medical side of it, etc.
I see a different scenario unfolding, after the war they will be less men to women, MOB agencies will finally be able to prove that one is true and not bs, happy days for them. So Svetlana and all the other Ukrainian girls will all be extra eager to land a guy, like musical chairs none of them will be wanting to be left out, but alas too few guys for each to have one let alone trying to get one they want and feel can support them, etc In fact you don't need to have that fewer guys to girls ratio before it starts to get difficult for girls to find a guy, it squeezes the whole game and makes it uber competitive for a girl to find a guy. Imagine a room with 10 girls and 9 guys, odds are most times all the guys would walk out with a girl in the FSU. If there are only 8 or even 7 guys in that room then the girls are likely to get very competitive and get all bitch fest like.
The scenario of the guy you describe is possible but not likely everyday then there is whether he has trauma from war, whether he really can assimilate back into civilian life. At the moment Ukraine's cities are slowly being destroyed in the east, it's economy is in dire straits and I don't see offers of post war economic assistance coming good, the Coronavirus has screwed most western nations for them to be stumping much up.
So in I come :D Sure a bit of an older guy but not real old, from a friendly ally country and more importantly to them has some degree of wealth at least way better than most of them/the guys they know. Even speaks a bit of not so great Russian but learning to improve all the time.
So think???? If you're the Ukrainian chick what are you going to do? Hmmnn she'll be thinking there are maybe 5 or 6 Ukrainian guys to every 10 Ukrainian girl. Of those some are already married, some are older guys and some are younger guys. The other guys are dating, playing the field because there are so many women to men or are economically impoverished, unemployed, maimed or mentally screwed from the war, etc. So all of a sudden it's real difficult to find any guy never mind a decent one and if you find even just any guy all the other girls are out to steal him even if he ain't all that.
So here's this guy from the UK just rocked up, familiar with Ukraine, speaks some very basic Russian, has a few bob in his pocket and from a country that is fairly wealthy and not devastated by war, free NHS service where you can get some vaccines for free, free State Schools with many vaccinations free for kids, decent dentistry, decent state pension, etc, etc. So our Svetlana starts thinking, hmmnn... I wonder if it might be worthwhile going with him, I can chase the local guys and end up with another bad day story to tell of being played, or ending up with a non starter of a guy, or quickly dumped, or just not getting a look in, etc. Or I can try this guy and immediately be living in the lap of luxury (at least compared to what Ukrainians are used to). Away from all the joblessness, economic hardship, suffering cold bitter weather with no money for fuel bills, little entertainment activities, etc, etc.
Now just what do you think Svetlana will choose?
Sure if there is a 'war hero' she could chase him with many of the other many, many Ukrainian girls but what are her chances? Most Ukrainian guys returning although theoretically 'heros' have just trudged along possibly surviving by luck more than anything and just doing the job. Many other of the hero's are now dead having succumbed to enemy fire after their moment of glory.
You see CB I'm not doubting that a few guys may live your scenario but most won't be, as Calmissile has just told us things aren't good out there economically. That means people are suffering badly even far away from the front line in Ukraine. Most Ukrainian women are likely to jump at the chance to be away from all of that. A foreign guy from the UK could be seen as a good catch by many Ukrainian girls. Their not expecting foreign guys to get involved in their fight or even aid work it's not our fight nor business. They'll accept that the foreign guy lives his life with the goings on that happen in his country not theirs. Again Ukrainian womens practical core will step in and say 'hey this guy can provide many Ukrainian guys can't' what do you think she'll choose?
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You pretend that you have the primary thing
that FSUW want. Hahahahahahahaha!
Get off your incel website and into real life. Buy a ticket, rent an apartment and stop
with the excuses. They want a man of action, be a man of action.
I've got holiday booked for April Beel. I agree action is what is needed. I booked it for then as Krim rightly said warm weather sees horrible big coats come off and the sexy tight fitting gear on.
In Chisinau there should be all sorts there, Moldovans, Ukrainian refugees, some Russians. They will have gone through one winter of little heating so will be ready for me to warm them up and jump ship ;)
This should be a good test of how the war may help a WM's chances. I'm expecting that many Ukrainian girls may have crossed the border already fed up with the war and seeking better elsewhere. So I'm kind of really looking forward to it, a chance to see if I can really make a go of it this time.
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As said before it depends on what being at the front actually means, some are likely in supporting roles not actually on the front line but near it, some may be like Beefarmer's supposed lady friend and be in the medical side of it, etc.
I see a different scenario unfolding, after the war they will be less men to women, MOB agencies will finally be able to prove that one is true and not bs, happy days for them. So Svetlana and all the other Ukrainian girls will all be extra eager to land a guy, like musical chairs none of them will be wanting to be left out, but alas too few guys for each to have one let alone trying to get one they want and feel can support them, etc In fact you don't need to have that fewer guys to girls ratio before it starts to get difficult for girls to find a guy, it squeezes the whole game and makes it uber competitive for a girl to find a guy. Imagine a room with 10 girls and 9 guys, odds are most times all the guys would walk out with a girl in the FSU. If there are only 8 or even 7 guys in that room then the girls are likely to get very competitive and get all bitch fest like.
The scenario of the guy you describe is possible but not likely everyday then there is whether he has trauma from war, whether he really can assimilate back into civilian life. At the moment Ukraine's cities are slowly being destroyed in the east, it's economy is in dire straits and I don't see offers of post war economic assistance coming good, the Coronavirus has screwed most western nations for them to be stumping much up.
So in I come :D Sure a bit of an older guy but not real old, from a friendly ally country and more importantly to them has some degree of wealth at least way better than most of them/the guys they know. Even speaks a bit of not so great Russian but learning to improve all the time.
So think???? If you're the Ukrainian chick what are you going to do? Hmmnn she'll be thinking there are maybe 5 or 6 Ukrainian guys to every 10 Ukrainian girl. Of those some are already married, some are older guys and some are younger guys. The other guys are dating, playing the field because there are so many women to men or are economically impoverished, unemployed, maimed or mentally screwed from the war, etc. So all of a sudden it's real difficult to find any guy never mind a decent one and if you find even just any guy all the other girls are out to steal him even if he ain't all that.
So here's this guy from the UK just rocked up, familiar with Ukraine, speaks some very basic Russian, has a few bob in his pocket and from a country that is fairly wealthy and not devastated by war, free NHS service where you can get some vaccines for free, free State Schools with many vaccinations free for kids, decent dentistry, decent state pension, etc, etc. So our Svetlana starts thinking, hmmnn... I wonder if it might be worthwhile going with him, I can chase the local guys and end up with another bad day story to tell of being played, or ending up with a non starter of a guy, or quickly dumped, or just not getting a look in, etc. Or I can try this guy and immediately be living in the lap of luxury (at least compared to what Ukrainians are used to). Away from all the joblessness, economic hardship, suffering cold bitter weather with no money for fuel bills, little entertainment activities, etc, etc.
Now just what do you think Svetlana will choose?
Sure if there is a 'war hero' she could chase him with many of the other many, many Ukrainian girls but what are her chances? Most Ukrainian guys returning although theoretically 'heros' have just trudged along possibly surviving by luck more than anything and just doing the job. Many other of the hero's are now dead having succumbed to enemy fire after their moment of glory.
You see CB I'm not doubting that a few guys may live your scenario but most won't be, as Calmissile has just told us things aren't good out there economically. That means people are suffering badly even far away from the front line in Ukraine. Most Ukrainian women are likely to jump at the chance to be away from all of that. A foreign guy from the UK could be seen as a good catch by many Ukrainian girls. Their not expecting foreign guys to get involved in their fight or even aid work it's not our fight nor business. They'll accept that the foreign guy lives his life with the goings on that happen in his country not theirs. Again Ukrainian womens practical core will step in and say 'hey this guy can provide many Ukrainian guys can't' what do you think she'll choose?
I don't think there will be such a discrepancy between young men and young women in Ukraine after the war as you think there will be.
Why ?
Well you seem to have forgotten 5 million people,mainly young women and children fled Ukraine a year ago..and the vast majority won't be going back...the single hotties certainly.
Ok not all of them were young single women,but i suspect at least 1 million were,and they'll be busily using their three year visa's to hook up with local guys..i suspect half of them are already married or engaged.
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I don't think there will be such a discrepancy between young men and young women in Ukraine after the war as you think there will be.
Why ?
Well you seem to have forgotten 5 million people,mainly young women and children fled Ukraine a year ago..and the vast majority won't be going back...the single hotties certainly.
Ok not all of them were young single women,but i suspect at least 1 million were,and they'll be busily using their three year visa's to hook up with local guys..i suspect half of them are already married or engaged.
Most of the women with children want to return from most of the TV interviews I have seen. In that age (children) the girl to boy ratio will be roughly similar as they grow up. That's of course years into the future and outside my demographic age range. For women aged 18+ plus at this point in time there will be too few men to go around, not unless polygamy takes hold lol. Few women date younger guys, an odd few may do if not much other choice but to most 18+ girls they will likely consider 18+ guys and guys in their twenties probably even thirties if not many guys around maybe even local guys in their forties, some girls will just get desperate and accept almost anything. But for the 18+ girl look all they want in these age ranges and all will have been diminished by the war.
So it will be about 10-20 years before Ukraine starts to recover demographically and the children now grow up and fill the late teens, twenties & thirties age range. Even then it depends how the economy goes, alcoholism etc. The upper age ranges will still have that shortfall of guy from the war for any that want to date that far.
As of today though we've got at least a 10 year plus period from when the war finishes to get in while the times are good for WM probably similar to after the fall of the Soviet Union.
I estimated that if Ukraine loses about 100,000 troops that divide that by the regions then the cities within that region and it likely amounts to a few hundred guys lost locally on average. A few hundred locally may not sound like a lot but it doesn't take much to tip the gender balance. A few less guys to girls and the girls start to get desperate. A bit like a group of 30 women waiting for a bus that only has 27 seats, all will be standing their waiting and anxious about getting a seat as they know a few will miss out and not be allowed on the bus.
The single hottie girl refugees I don't know about, less is said of them. Some may go back, some may try and stay, some may have been picked up by a guy. I think it varies as to what they want in life. Some may have stayed in Ukraine. Some may only want to be abroad if with a guy from that country to look after them. It really varies I think. There is not necessarily a certainty that they can stay once the refugee period is over depending on the country. There is also what guy they get with and how well he lives.
I personally think more families have fled than anyone and many of the single girls that have fled some have returned for various reasons. In general it's why I'm looking at partly basing myself abroad in Moldova/Ukraine as I think a lot of girls are happiest on their own turf and this war has kind of shown that for real I think.
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I'd say you've got more chance of hooking up with a Ukrainian hottie in Moldova than you have in Ukraine..because a Moldovan man isn't much of a catch for them in general.
That is a good point CB and one I agree with, Moldova is the poorest country in Europe (don't know about now if Ukraine is) but there is that then their is the racial difference and possible slight language difference and how they view each other. If there is the poor Moldovan guy Vs me then on paper at least I should have the advantage. I can fly in set her (& me) up in a nice flat near the city centre and pay for her upkeep with it all being relatively cheap to me where the Moldovan guy can't. They are mostly on such low wages that they can't hope to compete. The Earnings out there are about £/$/€ 150 or so per month. On top of that they have a hearing fuel crises out there so times are tough. A western guy can save a girl from all of that to which she would no doubt be grateful.
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As said before it depends on what being at the front actually means, some are likely in supporting roles not actually on the front line but near it, some may be like Beefarmer's supposed lady friend and be in the medical side of it etc.
Here's a young Ukrainain lady back from the front...she got hit by Mortar fire.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp_gTdWXoAAHRiT?format=jpg&name=medium)
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(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp_gTdfWAAAAAtx?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Rusya is 19 and as you can see she lost half of one of her legs in the blast.
She was serving as a Comms Systems operator until her vehicle got hit by the Mortar fire.
She intends going back to the frontline when she gets out of hospital.
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As of December 1 59,786 women served in the Ukrainian army, of whom 18,000 are civilian workers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 41,000 hold military positions and 5,000 are on the front line.
Tetiana Ostashchenko, the commander of the Medical Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, became the first female general in the Ukrainian army.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Ye9gMqLJY&t=211s
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Here's a young Ukrainain lady back from the front...she got hit by Mortar fire.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp_gTdWXoAAHRiT?format=jpg&name=small)
Poor girl, she looks quite pretty as well. Sorry to see her lose her leg at such a young age from it, can't be nice. I didn't mean if course that no women were at the front line, a few will be but that there will be those near the front line but not on it. Even being near the front line as Bee Farmer has shown us carries some risk as Mortars can go a long way and are often fired behind the front lines. Odds are in proportion male casual rate percentage wise will be higher than female. That and a maimed girl like this unfortunate girl is guts will still see as marriage worthy, a guy who is maimed and so hence struggles to get work won't be seen so.
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As of December 1 59,786 women served in the Ukrainian army, of whom 18,000 are civilian workers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 41,000 hold military positions and 5,000 are on the front line.
Tetiana Ostashchenko, the commander of the Medical Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, became the first female general in the Ukrainian army.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Ye9gMqLJY&t=211s
Thanks for the figures JDG, yep that's a what I mean so the 5,000 or so female front line troops is really a small amount. That's not to say those behind the line is not somewhat dangerous as CB has highlighted but the greatest risk will usually be on the front line. The military civilians will be likely mostly office staff and will be least at risk.
So the guts will in general be the ones taking most of the casualties being most of those at the front as originally supposed.
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what?
are ya gonna be like Paul McCartney?
it was her left leg, she's all right now
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You seem to be again confusing women with puppies, Trench. This brave woman, even without a leg, will most certainly have many fine suitors among those she served with.
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what?
are ya gonna be like Paul McCartney?
it was her left leg, she's all right now
Lol, I think it was Stella wasn't it. I think Linda was the one with the Burgers.
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You seem to be again confusing women with puppies, Trench. This brave woman, even without a leg, will most certainly have many fine suitors among those she served with.
Not saying it's impossible stuff like this can sometimes be random and play to the advantage. A lot of the time though stuff like this can be negative. Moreso if she can't get her hands on a bionic leg, she'll either be stuck on crutches or in a wheelchair and that some can find to be a pain to hang around. If there are fewer men or in Ukraine at the end of this then they will have plenty of women to choose from and that can cause issues. The young guys around her age will tend to be active and want to run around doing this and that. Possibly she might find a Ukrainian guy who has been maimed who knows or possibly feel she doesn't need that either even though she is like that.
The hypergamy scale can work in strange ways. I know of someone who is married to a deaf guy. She was not so pretty looking and didn't attract the guys, he was deaf but apparently attractive looking, not a model but above average looks it seems. However because he was deaf pretty much every woman passed over him. This female didn't as she didn't have many options. They ended up married and had a child together, the child was attractive looking with no deafness issues.
Had the guy not been deaf guess what? He wouldn't have been interested in her he would have likey been playing the field, almost certainly have no problems getting a girl and so on and so forth.
So you see how what you get/what happens to you affects your life chances.
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Trench,
Other folks are helping them with prostheses without requiring a marriage certificate. This woman will get a nice one too.
http://www.npr.org/2023/02/07/1153472827/ukrainian-soldiers-benefit-from-u-s-prosthetics-expertise-but-their-war-is-diffe
Maybe consider a donation instead.
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Ukraine still holds Bakhmut...despite claims to the contrary from the vatniks.
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I reckon Ukraine will try to hold Bakhmut until their spring counter-offensive starts.
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I reckon Ukraine will try to hold Bakhmut until their spring counter-offensive starts.
Apparently Russia is/was expected to begin a Spring Offensive so just a question of when/if we see it materialize. Both sides are apparently been getting new tanks so will probably be a case of seeing who opens up an offensive first and where.
The Wagner guy reckons Ukraine is reinforcing Bakhmut with tens of thousands of troops so possibly they may try to push back there. Ukraine government is saying the contrary that they may have to fall back out of the largely destroyed city but that may just be a ruse and I think Russia would be too alert in making the same mistake as before when Ukraine took a large chunk back in the north east of Kharkiv citing they were building up troops in Kherson.
Will have to wait and see if Russia pushes in down from Belarus to Kyiv & Lviv as supposed or whether they might find it more favourable pushing in from the land they already have taken. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia launches an attack in the Zaporizhia region, north westerly as that might be an easier push in for them. Ukrainian troops are apparently along the northern Belarus border and waiting so having reinforced their lines their ready for an attack it might not now be such an easy one for Russia.
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Trench,
Other folks are helping them with prostheses without requiring a marriage certificate. This woman will get a nice one too.
http://www.npr.org/2023/02/07/1153472827/ukrainian-soldiers-benefit-from-u-s-prosthetics-expertise-but-their-war-is-diffe
Maybe consider a donation instead.
Good idea BC a donation might help to curry favour with Ukrainian chicks, now I think I've got a spare quid in my pocket I can chip in ;)
I dunno though, think these are probably a handful out of many thousands as the article tells us there are that will get them. I'm guessing without big money going in most will go without and likely just get the old plastic jobs. My guess is that bionic stuff is pretty expensive.
The upside is if they go back in action and get hit again there they need only unbolt their present prosthetic and bolt on a new one ;D
Thing is though as this conflict continues amputees are only likely to increase, on both sides, so I don't see them all getting the good bionic stuff.
For foreigners who have joined up in the Ukrainian army there's the issue that they could loses limb or two and the Ukrainian Army/Government will wash their hands of them. The Ukrainian government like the Russian government is not best known for welfare support, etc. Literally those that went out there to help out would be left on their own most likely. UK guys aren't too bad off as the NHS & welfare state helps out here to sone extent, but there would still likely be a lot of issues that aren't covered by the NHS & welfare state. It's why I wouldn't get involved in any capacity as I don't think you'd find any help in return more it's a harsh world feeling I get the impression.
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old dude like me
The Ukraine society for the blind.
http://cputos.org.ua/
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Weekend at Bernie's with the Russian economy
it's dead, but Russians pretend it's alive and carry it around...
so when ALL the russian soverign wealth funds say "paka" next year and close up (and I'm hoping Russians will unload their gold - creating a market dip buy opportunity)
russians gonna need more ruble printing presses, a bunch more in big demoninations
and the more they print, the more they inflate, and the more they inflate, the more they NEED to print and the more they ... well ya'll get the picture, right?
when all oil/gas money disappears - where oligarchs? LOL
it's likely that when you add up workers on furlough, etc, unemployment in Russia is about 12%
and yes, tens of thousands of young Russian men are now dead, any many more disabled
and yes, the US has frozen 300 billion of Russian oil reserves foolishly kept in us banks
and yes, the west has seized another 100 billion in sanctioned assets
and yes Russia will spend down the remainder of their reserves by end of next year
and yes, Russia is in some instances, selling oil at below cost
so what tovarisch?
this money was NEVER EVER gonna be used for the benefit of the Russian people - NEVER!
it is always destined to be fed to oligarchs who give putin a big slice of it
and the few crumbs go to the people as wages - for slaving in an oligarch owned enterprise
only now it goes to the military oligarchs instead ot the real estae ones, pre-war
Deripaska, just declared these facts openly on Russian media
he also noted that he hoped that the outcome wasn't gonna be "State Capitalism" known as marxism/socialism in the USA
one thing all oligarchs USA and Russian fear
is losing their priviliges to the people
that's why they invest so much time and money within oligarch owned media in counter-acting this
and definitely - NO UNIONS!!!! ohhhhh the horror of workers "organizing"
The Grapes of Wrath are gonna be bitter indeed one day, ya'll gonna see...
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Saw a video from one of the Ukrainian Commanders in the Bakhmut area today,and it looks like the Ukrainians will be pulling out of Bakhmut shortly.
The attrition rate for the orcs has been very high ..6-7 orcs killed for every Ukrainian he said,in some parts as many as 10 to 1...but the Ukrainians in Bakhmut are now in danger of getting encircled,so it's now time to leave,withdraw to another nearby area and start again.
He also said the Ukrainian counter-offensive is expected to take place in mid April.
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As to the bold text...
Women are not very loyal when things go awry. Yes, a unicorn or two may exist, but overall, women leave military men who have suffered limb loss or disfiguration at an exceedingly high rate. Unbelievably high. Look it up. Of course it's never because they are shallow shits. It's because they are somehow victims who tried so hard but just blahblahblahblah...
Ordinarily i'd agree that women are shallow shits..not just about leaving the aforementioned military men,but in other ways too.The amount of women who leave their formerly wealthy husbands, who are now struggling financially, would be an interesting statistic too.
However,i'm not so sure this will apply in Ukraine .
None of us have been through an invasion of the country where we live.There's a massive difference between a soldier going off to fight in a war no-one really gives a shit about....such as Korea,Vietnam,The Falklands and Iraq.....and having murderous and barbaric terrorists slaughtering people where you live.
All the Ukrainians saw what happened at Mariupol and Bucha,and the only thing standing between them suffering the same fate is their military who are fighting to save them....do not underestimate how powerful this will be on people's psyche.
If Ukraine wins this war these military people will truly be heroes..exalted beyond compare.....and i suspect their women will be proud to be with them....as the men who saved them and their country.
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Ancient Chinese proverb:
There is always another surveillance balloon.
Death Mech
graceful machines, like dragonflys
better than any human killer
following the rippled currents
the angry skies filled with them
nothing can stop them
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The UK is now doubling the amount of Challenger 2 Tanks being sent to Ukraine....to 28.
Source :www.forbes.com
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moy GRU malchiky poisoned Kadyrov
it's the dudes from "KAMERA" they BAD!!!
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Until last year Kyiv was largely a Russian-speaking city. A survey in January revealed that since Putin’s invasion a year ago, 33% of Kyivans have adopted the Ukrainian language. About 46% said they had been speaking Ukrainian for a long time. Another 13% remain Russian speakers.
Ukrainians are bilingual. Ukrainian has traditionally been spoken in the west of the country with Russian more prevalent in the south and east. The most prominent switcher is Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who grew up in the central Russophone metallurgical city of Kryvyi Rih.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/06/russia-ukrainians-embrace-language-war
I thought some of you might find the article interesting.
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Ukrainians were forced to be bilingual. But I believe Russian will be replaced with English over time in Ukraine.
Kyiv is not "largely a Russian speaking city". During Soviet times, relative few in Kyiv would even admit to being able to speak Ukrainian. Now, if you ask someone something in Ukrainian, you will be responded to in Ukrainian. I think most people on the streets speak surzhik, not Russian. At least, that's my experience.
I believe you are mistaken about language throughout the country. Before the USSR, Russian Empire cities were islands of Russian speakers in a sea of Ukrainian speakers. Same in the Austro-Hungarian Empire with Polish. If you had visited a village in Chernihiv or Kyiv oblasts, you would hear Ukrainian (their own dialect), not Russian. The reason surzhik developed was as escapees came to the cities, they wanted to blend in, so tried to speak Russian (in their own way).
A lot of Southern Ukraine was settled by Germans, who spoke their language, had their own schools, churches, etc. They didn't even learn to read Russian, though most spoke it fluently. Of course, they were all deported by the Soviets. The language spoken in rural regions there is not exactly Russian, but closer to Russian than anything else.
In L'viv until the collapse of the USSR, Russian was spoken predominantly. I thilnk Ternopil was about 50/50, and Ivano Frankivsk was predominantly Ukrainian. However, Russification meant a lot of Russian words and phrases crept into the language.
Bottom line - cities in Ukraine tended to be more Russian speaking, villages, Ukrainian, even in Central/Eastern Ukraine. Moving to Ukrainian exclusively will be a long process.
ETA-From the article, the reference to the earliest destruction of a Ukrainian work of literature appears to be inaccurate. The first Ukrainian language work is widely viewed as Kotlyarevsky’s translation of Eneida, in 1798.
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Yana Rykhiltska a 29 year old Paramedic of the AFU 93rd Brigade died near Bakhmut .She was evacuating the wounded when the car she was in got shelled.
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Ukrainians were forced to be bilingual. But I believe Russian will be replaced with English over time in Ukraine.
If English became Ukraine's second language to Ukrainian then that would make Ukraine a WM's paradise :D
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Not necessarily, particularly not if Ukraine joins the EU.
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Russia using new type of hypersonic missiles in latest missile attack which are a lot more difficult to shoot down:
http://www.npr.org/2023/03/09/1162185287/hypersonic-missiles-ukraine-russia
Many missiles got through.
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Russia using new type of hypersonic missiles in latest missile attack which are a lot more difficult to shoot down:
http://www.npr.org/2023/03/09/1162185287/hypersonic-missiles-ukraine-russia
Many missiles got through.
12-missile Iskander brigade reportedly sells for as much as $300 million1
That makes them around $25 million each. Yes, they are indeed very difficult to shoot down
but they aren't super accurate2. The latest barrage reportedly killed 6 people 3.
which is terrible for the families involved in the attack and the people without power but how
effective is this, as a military tactic? The vast majority of the approximately 80 missiles4 and
drones surely were not hypersonic.
1. Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/12/17/russias-hypersonic-strike-force-is-mostly-for-show/?sh=e7df41b77669
2.Ibid
3.http://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-kyiv-odesa-kharkiv-40714ec02d628a95458594da6ba8a80e
4.Ibid
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This is an almost surreal exchange between a Ukrainian and Russian soldier in battle. Note the Russian justifies invasion (age restricted due to language).
http://youtu.be/pj64sNXWXXo
Apparently, the Ukrainian was wounded, the Russian killed.
Slava Ukraini.
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12-missile Iskander brigade reportedly sells for as much as $300 million1
That makes them around $25 million each. Yes, they are indeed very difficult to shoot down
but they aren't super accurate2. The latest barrage reportedly killed 6 people 3.
which is terrible for the families involved in the attack and the people without power but how
effective is this, as a military tactic? The vast majority of the approximately 80 missiles4 and
drones surely were not hypersonic.
1. Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/12/17/russias-hypersonic-strike-force-is-mostly-for-show/?sh=e7df41b77669
2.Ibid
3.http://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-kyiv-odesa-kharkiv-40714ec02d628a95458594da6ba8a80e
4.Ibid
Ending up destroying Residential buildings was proven by the Luftwaffe against the UK during WWII to be a poor strategy. Possibly these missiles aren't accurate enough but it can end up with Russia using yet another poor strategy whether entirely intended or not.
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Ending up destroying Residential buildings was proven by the Luftwaffe against the UK during WWII to be a poor strategy. Possibly these missiles aren't accurate enough but it can end up with Russia using yet another poor strategy whether entirely intended or not.
The purpose of the tactic was to get your initial reaction from as
many people as possible, which was:
OH NOES!!!! Russia has super duper weapons impervious to our
silly and weak Western Tech, we should all pee ourselves!!!
If Russia wanted to win they would have sent in a major winter attack and a
couple million Russians would be dead and they would be sitting in Odessa
admiring the Potemkin Stairs with their stolen loot, but they are managing
this more like Russia vs Afghanistan rather than WWII.
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holy kakashka
a lotta really weird stuff I can't talk about is happening in Russia, but very alarming
my analogy is you hear cracking sounds in the 3 gorges damn
speaking of which
a HUGE massive unparalled slowdown is happening in China
something tells me china ain't even gonna sell a firecracker to russia now
somebody bitch-slapped turkey about being a logistics hub to russia, well duh, look at a map
so that's being reduced, at the end of this year, Turkey will lose the transit fees of Russian gas to south stream as well
turkey's economy is in really bad shape for the usual reasons
combined, this is a big loss to them
dunno what kinda carrot or stick was presented, but somethin sure was
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I assume with Turkey, there were threats to cut EU funding and generally from the EU and US, pressure, which they can exert, as they account for most of Turkey’s export markets.
Re Russia-alarming to Russia, Ukraine, or the West?
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Turkey is a member of NATO so might have been viewed that they were playing it both ways. On balance I'm guessing Turkey decided to tie the line rather than risk being thrown out of NATO as that could leave them at the mercy of Russia plus weaken it's position in Cyprus.
Other economic factors from the West I don't discount. My guess is that Turkey as a poor country knew the effects could be devastating on its economy so persisted trade with the Russians.
Am I taking it that we might be at the start of fall out at the top in Russia across Russia Krim? I notice that no Spring offensive from Russia as yet been mounted some reports of Russian soldiers refusing to obey their commanders. We've seen all this before back in WWI and know that big fractures and splits can often lead, could be interesting to see.
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My guess is that Turkey as a poor country knew the effects could be devastating on its economy so persisted trade with the Russians.
I take it you've never been to Turkey?
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a new season has begun in Russia
fire season
you people in the west have no freakin idea of how to "manage" Russians in some constructive way, and the Russians have even less of an idea, and so we get, what we get
instead of having a cooperative functioning system in equilibrium
too simplistic just to blame Russian oligarchs and not mention deutsche bank and trump towers as well
greed doesn't respect national boundaries
Russia is not just "unstable" right now
it's actively collapsing, every one of Putin's assertions of Russia's economic health, are lies
it's in a rapidly escalating depression, and so are the people, a very deep hole
and while in the hole, Russians are told to "dig", "dig" for the motherland
and so the hole grows deeper by the day
in Russia the tension builds, but Putin blocks it's expression
so it spills out in other places
russians can't stand being laughed at
ya wanna piss 'em off, laugh at 'em, then see what they do
all i'm gonna say
it's all gonna burn
and then you're gonna see smoke on the horizon getting closer and closer to you
slovo
ya'll don't seem to get it...
Russia's coming fall is only the beginning and not the end
all these negative forces create a feeback loop that builds the amplitude
the walls are all
gonna come tumblin down, covid was just one of the bricks and russia to
it's all gonna fall
trump and putin will not survive any more than Qadaffi and Sadam Hussein did
it's all gonna be overwith for them to
as wells as everything and everybody else
man can not stop nature
but watch what nature does to man in the next 20 years and how it causes the world to go mad
and go in a downward spiral, that frankly we're ALREADY IN!!!
but this is just the early beginning stage
what do you think the next stage of this will be like?
of course, I'm crazy, right
a sidewalk schitzo talkin about the world ending
hehehe
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On balance I'm guessing Turkey decided to tie the line rather than risk being thrown out of NATO as that could leave them at the mercy of Russia plus weaken it's position in Cyprus.
My guess is that Turkey as a poor country knew the effects could be devastating on its economy so persisted trade with the Russians.
There is no mechanism to expel a NATO member. So I don't know where you come up with the nonsense about expelling Turkey from NATO.
I suspect that in the next 10 years, you will see Turkey emerge as the dominant country in the region. They are not a poor country, and can produce all the food they need, which is more than we can say about Britain. They have pretty good energy security. Do not be foolish enough to think that Turkey is somehow a paper tiger or a banana republic.
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As of December 1 59,786 women served in the Ukrainian army, of whom 18,000 are civilian workers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 41,000 hold military positions and 5,000 are on the front line.
Tetiana Ostashchenko, the commander of the Medical Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, became the first female general in the Ukrainian army.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Ye9gMqLJY
Ukraine's Secret Hero: Ukrainian Hero Woman Single-Handedly Destroyed The Russian Team!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Uh5UoK6mM
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Putin on the Fritz (a musical written in my bunker - after the first plague but before the second one)
curtain opens
entrance - stage left
solo
Pri-va-tize-ing the eye-pop-ping profits ding, ding
shellin ukraine with lots of cold war roc-kets ding, ding
cash payments to under-cover bos-ses
socializing all the jaw-drop-ping losses
gonna cost us
Putin on the fritz
Putin on the fritz
this is the part I start tap dancing to the staccato kalishnakov orchestra
ahhh das bunker
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wimmin in the military
in Israel active duty personnel are about 45% female, women are conscripted same as men
israel has the most effective army in the world - this is one reason why
Ted Cruz never served in the military - and frankly never would've made it through basic training so no point in him even trying
Trump family has been in the USA since the 1870s - not one of em EVER served in the military, not one
Tucker Carlson - the frozen food heir - in the military? , are you freakin kidding me?
so the women who ACTUALLY SERVE their country
vrs the men who didn't
and whose voices are the most critical of women in the military?
the ones who served or the ones whose daddy got them draft deferrments MULTIPLE TIMES
and what voices are the ones leading you dumb asses around?
when ya'll start killin madchen und kinder in "total war" by targetting cities
the enemies wimmin folk CAN'T be kept out of the war!!!
cuz YOU just brought the war to THEM
no point in "keepin em safe at home"
after dumb asses blew it up with the neighbor's kids inside
flight or fight baby
and a lot are gonna wanna fight - just like the men
for every reaction - there's a WHAT?
no PERCEIVED reaction = NO counter reaction
best war - invisible secret war done right out in the open uder the enemie's nose
using advanced technology developed by KAMERA in Moscow during the Soviet period - delivery vehicle equal ice cream truck, etc (I will be sellin translated copies of the original Russian docs)
THIS is the freakin way to FIGHT a war MFers
not with billion dollar ships and airplanes and guns all this is archaic waste
cost effective war
is minimal war
the more asymetrical - the more effective
death by a million cuts, by a billion
the friendly old man in the ice cream truck
he's a trained officer in the enemies chemical warfare 3rd brigade
and all this can be yours for a low introductory price
da kanyeshnya angliyskiy i russkiy
hehehe whatcha laughin at?
oh, and BTW
the 300 billion USD Russian Federation money sittin in western banks...
guess what's gonna happen to it?
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http://www.huffpost.com/entry/ron-desantis-ukraine-war-tucker-carlson_n_64105797e4b0cfde25c1001c
so right away, we see that putin sees a path for 2024
you think you had election interference in 2016, wait...
DeSantis - a hawkish republican is now a pacifist? how come, holmes?
the only things Russia exports to the USA
hillary's emails,
hunter's laptop
cash to FBI investigators who investigate Russian election interference
cash to politicians who are useful to Russia
oil that has been relabeled as coming from Mexico
anti LGBQT propaganda
and pretty soon what ever they're gonna dream up for 2024 to be shown non-stop on Fox to help DeSantis
yeah, I'm crazy, Fox would never lie on TV or use Russian propaganda, Fox viewers are really smart and wouldn't be so EASILY deceived
LOL
http://www.rawstory.com/santa-rosa-diocese/
BTW, kultur warriors
The Diocese of Santa Rosa in California has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, after being deluged in hundreds of lawsuits over child sexual abuse
so whadda you rednecks do?
ya ban drag shows
pure freakin genuis that is - definititely not afraid to go after actual pedophiles and their tax free investments of bilions and billions
when instead you can go after a guy who wears makeup on a stage like Milton Berle who aren't pedophiles (but are labeled as that by the ministry of propaganda both Russian/American)
and of course, you put more effort to ban books in schools instead of guns
like jeezus intended, am I right?
those of you who are without sin, may cast the first stone at this poor sinner who stands before you
but I got a .45 on my hip, cuz I'm a Texas Redneck and I'll gun you down so fast you won't even know you're dead
and for an old dewd I got REALLY good reflexes cuz I play ping-pong every freakin day
and it's really hard to find people who can play a game at my top level
PS
THAT is some good sheeet I brought in from Costa Rica, coulda sold it to blatnoys in moskva for some pretty gold coins that I could stack
but that's all over with - what are moscva dopers gonna do? local brewed krokodil suka? add that to the total russian death toll of Putin's phuquing stoopidity
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Notice the Russians lost a fair few of their newer M90 tanks the other day, about 15 or so I think it was and a good thousand or so troops with it. Today Ukrainians apparently managed to destroy a number of Cruise missiles based in Crimea. So the Ukrainians still getting some good victories in but any big change so far elusive.
Spring is now here so either side could mount an offensive, the Ukrainians now having western tanks with more on the way and the Russians having conscripted more troops. Neither side has made a move as yet if they are able to and intense fighting remains around Bakhmut with neither side wanting to give in there.
Yesterday the US announced it would speed up sending its Abrams tanks to Ukraine and I think the EU or its member states also agreed to send more ammo and stuff quickly. Possibly this might be a sign of concern in the West over whether the Ukrainian Army might start to buckle over constant Russian fighting. That's unfortunately one potential issue Ukraine has that it has a smaller population than Russia. Out of that population only so many may be minded to fight. On facing a call up and envisaging a meat grinder situation many a Ukrainian guy might think better of turning up and do a runner for the border. After all not all will see a great future in being put into the meat grinder and would rather go for a life elsewhere, I wouldn't blame them on that. Let's face it Ukraine's government has never been that great to its people (endemic corruption, etc) and can let down it's poorest people. So imagining a guy that doesn't have a lot going for him in Ukraine then I could see why he wouldn't want to bother with all the war stuff.
So for Ukraine they are possibly up against the clock on defeating Russia. For Russia if they keep doing poorly and expending cast effort doing so then internal issues may end the war early for them. Coming weeks and months could be quite telling possibly.
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British Challenger,USA Stryker and Cougar and German Marder are now in Ukraine.
Source :Ukraine MOD.
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I suspect China's game plan is to let Russia and the West expend a lot of equipment/materials.
No matter which wins, China will be in a stronger position worldwide.
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the armour is GREAT!!!
but WAIT, there's MORE!!!
I'm sure you've all seen the numerous videos of larger hobbyist FPV drones dropping small bombs on Russian units.
well...
the next stage of this which is being produced RIGHT NOW
is Roy Dronov...
nope, not some dewds name, it means "Drone Swarm"
imagine 100 drones coming at a target at once, and not just a single drone
each individual drone targets using a distributed AI system combined with individual operators
the USA has delivered a MASSIVE coup, by nearly cornering the supply of these high end drone components mfg in Chi-nuh , enough to build 100,000 drones!!!
and did so secretly without the chinese even knowing who the buyer was and its destination
once you hear about the results of the first 100 drone swarm, and I'm waiting for the video!
then get ready for the first 1,000 drone swarm
The Ballad of the Ukrainian Suicide Drone
suicide dronesssss from the sky
fearless dronesssss who fly and die
drones that meannnn just what they say
they gonna blowwww your ass off today
if you tweaked "Battle hym of the republic" to reflect a Ukrainian context
and translated it into Ukrainian
and had a TOP choir sing it in front of a Ukrainian audience....
My eyes have seen the glory of the rising of Ukraine
....
his truth is marching on
slava, slava u-kra-i-nia
slava, slava u-krai-n-ia
I don't know about ya'll, but I think it "works"
what about, "Are you go-ing to Sev-a-sto-pol"?
If you're going to Sev-a-sto-pol
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you're going to Sev-a-sto-pol
You're gonna meet some gentle people there
ehhhhh, I dunno...
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There have now been 2000 confirmed Russian orc Officers killed in Ukraine since 24th February 2022.
Based on publicly available data from Russia.Confirmations are made via funeral notices,obituaries and news sites.
Source : KIU . Russian Officers killed in Ukraine@KilledInUkraine
The military destruction of Russia continues. >:D
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According to this latest report a Spring Counter-offensive on either side is looking unlikely:
http://www.euronews.com/2023/04/13/analysts-say-ukraine-counter-offensive-unlikely-unless-more-combat-vehicles-supplied
Kind of what I've been thinking in recent days, Ukraine now has some modern tanks from the west, mainly the UK Challenger tanks at the moment but no news of their use as yet. Odds are with the equipment on the Russian side and then digging in their at the moment the modern Western taks have become more of a hold the line equipment.
Whether anything will change as Ukraine gets more Leopard tanks and if they get the equipment in the article who knows. Both sides seem to be locked in a military resources battle at the moment and who can bring the most to the fore.
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Looks like this guy may not see the light of day for quite some time:
http://www.euronews.com/2023/04/13/us-close-to-finding-ukraine-war-document-leaker-says-biden
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According to this latest report a Spring Counter-offensive on either side is looking unlikely:
http://www.euronews.com/2023/04/13/analysts-say-ukraine-counter-offensive-unlikely-unless-more-combat-vehicles-supplied (http://www.euronews.com/2023/04/13/analysts-say-ukraine-counter-offensive-unlikely-unless-more-combat-vehicles-supplied)
Kind of what I've been thinking in recent days, Ukraine now has some modern tanks from the west, mainly the UK Challenger tanks at the moment but no news of their use as yet. Odds are with the equipment on the Russian side and then digging in their at the moment the modern Western taks have become more of a hold the line equipment.
Whether anything will change as Ukraine gets more Leopard tanks and if they get the equipment in the article who knows. Both sides seem to be locked in a military resources battle at the moment and who can bring the most to the fore.
If Ukraine is getting similar weather to the UK there will be no chance of a spring offensive.
Where i live we're getting a day or two of sunshine,with temperatures oif between 10 -13 C followed by a deluge of rain the next day,which is leaving the ground sodden with swampy conditions in the fields.
Not the ground for driving Tanks and APC's on...they'll get stuck in the mud.
There were videos going round on the internet at the end of last week showing Ukrainian soldiers wading through above ankle deep water in their trenches.
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If Ukraine is getting similar weather to the UK there will be no chance of a spring offensive.
Where i live we're getting a day or two of sunshine,with temperatures oif between 10 -13 C followed by a deluge of rain the next day,which is leaving the ground sodden with swampy conditions in the fields.
Not the ground for driving Tanks and APC's on...they'll get stuck in the mud.
There were videos going round on the internet at the end of last week showing Ukrainian soldiers wading through above ankle deep water in their trenches.
Yeah heard the situation is looking a lot like the WWI trenches out there which sounds bizarre considering how far we have advanced tech wise from those days. That's not a situation I would wish on others or wish to be in.
I think you're right CB that the weather conditions don't favour a counter offensive at the moment either plus with the Russians digging in it's going to be a case of lining up the right factors coming together if possible for a counter offensive. At the moment it's looking like it will take a bit longer and more trying to find a moment in which to strike effectively.
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We live in incredibly stupid times.
wot a silly wanker that airman wuz
no tradecraft skillz whatsoever
less than an amateur, barely qualifies as an idiot
now EVERYBODY with a clearance is gonna get "the lecture"
poor workin stiffs
yeah, looks like only a narrow window from the spring rains until the beginning of
"all the children are INSANE... ...waiting for the summer rain" which is usually in early june for south ukraine
april showers bring may flowers and THEN the pilgrims start marchin to cut the northern supply line to krim
if they time it right, they get in before the summer rain makes it harder for russians to launch a counter-offensive
war and comedy
all about the timing
it's why zelensky is SO good
first comedian commander-in-chief
knows 10 "knock knock" jokes for every one that putin does
AND is a talented dancer to boot
putin can barely play the piano and poorly sing blueberry hill
zelensky towers over putin in SO MANY ways
russians are so far behind in everything
russian leadership compensate by accepting massive losses
but...
as the last mobilization showed
for every soldier mobilized two young educated russians left the country and economy
russian gov. responded by eliminating child labor laws
and raising the retirement age as well as reducing pension amount , to help pad the workforce
therefor, there will not be open mobilization plans
but closed ones, stealth ones, secret ones
worker's paradise LMFAO!!!
the economy is russia's 2nd front
and they're doing just as badly
as they are in Ukraine
look at Russia 1914-1917
we're at the 1915 stage now
two years from now, there will be lots of "interesting events" in Russia
there are no new "shows" in Russia
everything is a sequel or a re-run
fer instance,
in 1990 the Soviet Union admitted that Soviet Union carried out Katyn massacre. There are public images of Soviet documents with Stalin personally approving the murder of 22,000 Poles.
Russians blamed it on the Nazis. They lied, of course
in the current sequel, Russians still commit attrocities and blame it on Nazis...
same ole same ole
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Kind of terrible times, that so many face such awful fates. I know I brought up the whole number of troops killed stuff, my mind just can help but turn over the factual stuff but when you think of it, it's a pretty miserable situation for all those dragged into the situation, I feel kind of bad it's come about to this.
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Watched Stacey Dooley Ready for war ? on BBC iplayer last night,it's also available on BBC Three.
It's about the Ukrainian recruits coming over to the UK for five weeks training before going back to fight the orcs,and follows them through their training.
Some nice moments.but generally sad seeing these guys who were florists,welders and jewellers giving up everything to go and protect their country and families.
The first question they all get asked at the recruitment centres in Ukraine is "Are you ready to die to protect your country " ? and they all shouted "yes".
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I KNOW what the Russians are "working on" to win the war in Ukraine
and when they do it, it's gonna be one of the darkest days in American history
i see the constellation of dots
and what emerges when you draw the lines between them
a chain is only as strong as the weakest link
and that's where you try and cut the chain
and NOT where it's strongest (like in Ukraine)
therefor, Russia will not win the war on the battlefield
instead, they will do it with two GRU agents in Washington DC
who will be at the right place and the right time
and with just a little pinprick do in a few seconds
what the entire russian army failed to do in over a year
and this day of infamy
leads to a massive avalanche of "unfortunate events
that leads to a cascading collapse in Ukraine, after the military supplies are stopped
and huge turmoil within the USA to the point of a civil war
that all began with just a little jab
and that's all i'm gonna say about that
authorities question me, I'm gonna be like Sgt Schultz, "I know NOTHING"
and if ya'll think otherwise, well why don't ya prove it then LOL
yeah, maybe it was just a lucky guess on my part
I will tell ya'll just one detail, it'll be called "The Oktober Surprize"
this name REALLY resonates with Russians
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The amount of Russian orc officers confirmed as killed in Ukraine since 24/2/22 had risen to 2,055 by 13/4/23.
There have now been 10,000 pieces of Russian orc heavy military equipment visually confirmed as destroyed in Ukraine since 24/2/22. ( photo's,videos,satellite images and drone footage )
The destruction of the Russian orc military continues >:D
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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/14/2163936/-Quick-Explainer-Why-can-t-Russia-produce-new-weapon-systems
a simple explanation of the structural problems of the russian military-industrial complex
and why it's only gonna get worse
a lotta stuff is "converging" towards some future transition in the world
china and russia are in big trouble
but the truth is we ALL are
Wuhan Shuokang Biological Technology
has killed more young Americans than the japanese and nazis did in WWII (and still is on a daily basis - couple of hundred per day)
THIS is how ythe chinese do asymetrical warfare
a kinda jujitsu where you use minimum force, and use the enemy's own moves and efforts against them
Russia hacking hillary's emails, and bribing the FBI to slander her to get Trump elected is another example of this and demonstrates how ridiculously efficient it is
as opposed to launching a conventional war
a profoundly subtle approach
maximizes gain for a small expenditure
use the gains from one effort, to create new ones
while you smile politely in public and deny everything with disinformation channels you create
I was able to trick chatgpt4 into generating complete step-by-step guides for doing this
russians already know about this
expect MUCH more clever hacks and attacks in the near future that were planned by an AMERICAN AI!!
oh, and one more thing, the GRU will use usa citizens to perform certain tasks, like they did with Oswald
see, there's the world above, that ya'll can see
and then there's the world below
that only people "like me" can see
hehe, i'm crazy, you can't put any faith in my ramblings, right?
whatcha laughin at?
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Currently good exchange rates can be had on the UAH, best ever really. One GBP now buys approx. 45.65 UAH, so up a good 10 UAH from what we used to get in peacetime. Of course getting to Ukraine not as easy as it used to be.
Looks like the same for the USD to UAH as well, looks like both jumped against the UAH about the same time a number of months ago. Not sure if this was due to devaluation in Ukraine, war, etc.
Possible sign that the economy in Ukraine is not doing so well but then again neither it is in Russia either. Both unfortunately for the people taking a hammering from it all.
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the Ukraine war will be one of the political "hot button" issues in the 2024 USA election
USA oligarchs are gonna get Robert Kennedy Jr to run as a 3rd party "spoiler candidate" against the democrats in 2024 to help Trump win AGAIN
Russians will generously assist with the disinformation campaign, Musk has already invited them back to twitter
Russians will check polling, if it's in their favor, then just "let that bet ride"
if it's NOT in their favor...
well, that's when things "get interesting"
and instead of "adding" things to help Trump
they'll "subtract" things instead
end result, Trump wins, Russia wins
if ya'll look at my old posts in the past, I told ya EXACTLY when Russia would invade Ukraine
and the same method I used to figure out the invasion date
is the same one I used to figure out the future "special election" of Donald J Trump
secret service -- don't shoot the messenger when this happens
just remember who tipped you about Blue Orchid
and all the promotions ya got for that
another opportunity for ya to shine against the Russians will be handed to ya next yr
IF you're up to the task...
and if you're not...
then we're all gonna be deeply phuqued!!
bon chance!
the cuban missile crisis led to Dealy Plaza
the Ukrainian war will as well
changing America forever
a place where there is no more "Leave it to Beaver" vibe
America in the future will be more like Hogan's Heroes, but without the German accents
word dawg!
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Prigozhin reported yesterday that there is a "monstrous slush" in Ukraine that even pick-ups can not normally pass through the fields,and adds that the soil still needs around ten days to dry.
Meanwhile at least 2,085 Russian orc officers have now been confirmed killed in Ukraine since 24/2/22, as at 21/4/23.
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can you imagine a "Dunkirk" like scenario
but instead of little British sailboats retreating
it's EVERY tractor in Ukraine crossing no-man's land pulling wagons and they're all in 3rd gear with the pedal to the medal bearing down on Russians
photographed in wide-screen
and set to the score of "Flight of the Valkyries"
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At the moment Ukraine is still losing ground in Bakhmut with the Russians apparently taking three more districts in the last day or so. Apparently reports are that Ukraine is calling up more men and reserves to Bakhmut and quickly training them presumably to try and hold the line. My guess is that Ukraine has been suffering badly from the fighting in Bakhmut too and is likely seeing heavy losses also now.
As yet no sign of the use of either Challenger or Leopard tanks at the front, let's hope they haven't already been sold on with sone rich Ukrainian jetting off into the sunset money made lol.
Recent report on the Leopard tanks being sent to Ukraine situation:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/04/22/more-leopard-2-tanks-are-bound-for-ukraine-as-kyiv-makes-long-term-plans-for-its-armored-battalions/
Looks like they are not necessarily getting them all at once and for some it may take time. Even then the combined Leopard/Challenger force will only be around 100 tanks with possibly some Abram's at some point adding to the number. So at the moment way short of the 300 that Ukraine's top brass said they needed to push matters the other way.
I'm guessing they might help to hold the line but I'm still not sure if those tanks in itself will be a game changer for Ukraine. That said it looks like it's going to be a long old slog for the Russians, they look set up for a blow up one city move onto the next strategy, a hard, slow and brutally painful way to conduct war. Still shocks me that they didn't even bother to try to get some forces down along Ukraine's western border in the early stages of the war, it would have been almost certainly almost wide open with little resistance. Would have finished and won this war for Russia real quickly, Ukraine wouldn't have been able to get in ammo and armaments from the west and cities could have been running short of food, a few months tops and they would have been done for. Luckily I guess for Ukraine that Putler & his Generals were so stupid but unfortunately Ukraine has all this to endure now. I support Ukraine but it just still amazes me how stupid & incompetent Russia was in its strategy, just absolute fools.
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Ukraine forces have apparently crossed the Dnipro river around Kherson. A bit of an unusual move as would not generally be thought the best place to advance since having a river stuck behind you isn't usually a great idea and Russian forces had apparently been digging in.
My thoughts are that it is most likely a ruse to draw Russian attention away to allow for a easier counter-attack situation elsewhere. The forces that have crossed the Dnipro seem small in number at the moment and some haven't fully crossed the river but are on inlets as the river divides before emptying out into the Black Sea.
Anyhow, looks like the Ukrainian forces are finally up for initiating a Counter-offensive. Will just have to see when are where they fully move in.
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At the moment Ukraine is still losing ground in Bakhmut with the Russians apparently taking three more districts in the last day or so. Apparently reports are that Ukraine is calling up more men and reserves to Bakhmut and quickly training them presumably to try and hold the line. My guess is that Ukraine has been suffering badly from the fighting in Bakhmut too and is likely seeing heavy losses also now.
As yet no sign of the use of either Challenger or Leopard tanks at the front, let's hope they haven't already been sold on with sone rich Ukrainian jetting off into the sunset money made lol.
Recent report on the Leopard tanks being sent to Ukraine situation:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/04/22/more-leopard-2-tanks-are-bound-for-ukraine-as-kyiv-makes-long-term-plans-for-its-armored-battalions/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/04/22/more-leopard-2-tanks-are-bound-for-ukraine-as-kyiv-makes-long-term-plans-for-its-armored-battalions/)
Looks like they are not necessarily getting them all at once and for some it may take time. Even then the combined Leopard/Challenger force will only be around 100 tanks with possibly some Abram's at some point adding to the number. So at the moment way short of the 300 that Ukraine's top brass said they needed to push matters the other way.
I'm guessing they might help to hold the line but I'm still not sure if those tanks in itself will be a game changer for Ukraine. That said it looks like it's going to be a long old slog for the Russians, they look set up for a blow up one city move onto the next strategy, a hard, slow and brutally painful way to conduct war. Still shocks me that they didn't even bother to try to get some forces down along Ukraine's western border in the early stages of the war, it would have been almost certainly almost wide open with little resistance. Would have finished and won this war for Russia real quickly, Ukraine wouldn't have been able to get in ammo and armaments from the west and cities could have been running short of food, a few months tops and they would have been done for. Luckily I guess for Ukraine that Putler & his Generals were so stupid but unfortunately Ukraine has all this to endure now. I support Ukraine but it just still amazes me how stupid & incompetent Russia was in its strategy, just absolute fools.
Prigozhin says the west has donated 230 Tanks to Ukraine..Whether that figure includes the yet to arrive Abrams from the USA he didn't specify.
He said the west has also donated 1,500 other armoured vehicles.
Russian channels are reporting a big build-up of Ukrainian forces at Zaporizhia.
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Prigozhin says the west has donated 230 Tanks to Ukraine..Whether that figure includes the yet to arrive Abrams from the USA he didn't specify.
He said the west has also donated 1,500 other armoured vehicles.
Russian channels are reporting a big build-up of Ukrainian forces at Zaporizhia.
That would figure, I always thought that is the more likely and easier route for Ukraine to strike, likely down through Zaporizhia to Melitopol & on to Crimea and/or Mariupol. Kherson region again just being used as a ruse to deflect attention.
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Interesting report from the Institute for the Study of War ( ISW ) today.
According to analysts ,Russian occupiers continued their ground attacks in Bakhmut and it's surroundings ,but over the past two days they have not achieved any territorial gains.
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you don't use tanks to fight in a swamp
you use infantry
the Ukrainians are LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Russians
they're sending their top soldiers in small units across the Dnipro, only takes a couple of inflatable rafts at night to ferry them and supply them
on the left side of the Dnipro, they have artillery and Hi-MARS
Russians attack the forward Ukrainian positions, and get hit by artillery and the Ukrainian defenders (best troops+best weapons) the Germans in WWII called this the "Swerepunkt" the "Spear Point"
once the Ukrainian Spear Points establish a position and hold it
they'll then launch another group to do the same
and another... and another...
this is what the beginning of the Ukrainian southern offensive is gonna look like
a swamp war
meanwhile a Ukrainian drone over Red Square
http://t.me/Pravda_Gerashchenko/69587
a few days ago a Ukrainian torpedo drone hit a Russian ship in Sevastopol, limited info as to damage
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you don't use tanks to fight in a swamp
you use infantry
the Ukrainians are LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Russians
they're sending their top soldiers in small units across the Dnipro, only takes a couple of inflatable rafts at night to ferry them and supply them
on the left side of the Dnipro, they have artillery and Hi-MARS
Russians attack the forward Ukrainian positions, and get hit by artillery and the Ukrainian defenders (best troops+best weapons) the Germans in WWII called this the "Swerepunkt" the "Spear Point"
once the Ukrainian Spear Points establish a position and hold it
they'll then launch another group to do the same
and another... and another...
this is what the beginning of the Ukrainian southern offensive is gonna look like
a swamp war
meanwhile a Ukrainian drone over Red Square
http://t.me/Pravda_Gerashchenko/69587
a few days ago a Ukrainian torpedo drone hit a Russian ship in Sevastopol, limited info as to damage
Wouldn't the Russians be doing the same, hitting them with artillery where they are now having just crossed the river?
While it's great to see Ukrainians making an effort I'm not sure I'm convinced they can mount an attack this way. My thoughts are that it could be more to hold Russian units down in Kherson region to avoid them moving troops up to Zaporizhia region.
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the difference is Ukrainians know where to attack, where Russian artillery is at it's weakest, and Ukrainians can pre-position their artillery to cover the attack
Russians would have to shift their artillery closer to the attack zone, this gives Ukraine an opportunity to attack Russian artillery using HI-MARS, when it's being transported and vulnerable, if the Russian artillery can't be suppressed then the Ukrainian special forces can withdraw, either way will leave a bunch of Russian casualties
long term, Russia has no military solution to achieve victory in Ukraine, at best they can TRY to hold on to MOST of the territory they've stolen
Russia's solution to winning, is to try and break the support chain (this is BY FAR the weakest link)
picture what would've happened to Britain, if all the support from the USA was cut-off in 1940
this solution will start to produce an escalation of asymetrical war against the West DIRECTLY
such as destroying the $30 million Reaper drone over the Black Sea a few weeks ago
this will lead to sabotaging western undersea cables, and other easily sabotaged items like oil and gas pipelines, shipping, etc
they want to raise the West's public's perception of a war risk, by actually starting a low-level asymetrical war with the West
this war fear will then be used by pro-Russian political candidates next year
and the rest I can't tell ya, cuz I don't want the FEDS knocking on my door again
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http://euromaidanpress.com/2023/04/25/frontline-update-ukraine-establishes-20-km-wide-bridgehead-on-dnipros-eastern-bank/?swcfpc=1
the proof is in the pudding
this is the start of the Ukrainian "offensive"
the Russian "defense line" is too long (800 km)
thins out their equipment to the point that it creates gaps (especially after losing half of it, and the best half at that)
gaps create opportunities for Ukraine
the Teixeira leak mentions
"and what kinds of satellite imagery the United States uses to track Russian forces, including an advanced technology that appears barely, if ever, to have been publicly identified."
but this system is SO SECRET, Teixeira didn't have much actual info, other than how important it is
it has "God-Like" AI power
can identify and track every russian tank, truck, canon, even individuals over a wide area
calculates logisitc requirements and tracks shipments and movements of Russian units
knows WAY more what the Russians are doing than the Russians
a robotnick monstor that calls out the names of Russian soldiers who are to die
Skynet Ukrainia
ain't no Russian John Conner
ya'll phuqued
slovo!
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Russia has just now blocked the grain corridor
prohibiting Ukrainian grain from leaving Ukrainian ports
Russia WANTS the US Navy to step in
and protect vessels leaving black sea ports
cuz they're planning for accidents to happen to the US Navy
a-and the reason Russ-see-ya is blaming Biden for the North Stream pipeline explosion
is cuz pretty soon they're gonna do the same to western pipelines
and they'll ties these events together
coulda used Tucker Carlson for this
Russians are VERY unhappy about losing Tucker
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The Russian spacecraft, called Kosmos-2558, was launched into the same orbital plane as the US satellite, called USA-326
satellite vrs satellite
USA-326 is the USA's Ukrainian observation satellite
Russia is gonna up-end the scenario where the west's only involvment is to be the arsenal of democracy for Ukraine
they gonna start "wacking" western things soon
to raise the ante
hoping at some point, the west is gonna fold
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Highlights of the First Ukrainian Matchbook Brigade of the Ukrainian People's Militia scorecard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Russian_mystery_fires
overall, 200 mystery fires in Russland in the first 3 months of 2023, above are the highlights
RESISTANCE IS NOT FUTILE!!
'dis here is my "laser matchbook" made from an old scavenged Laser Hair Removal Unit
150 watt invisible infrared output diode laser minus the collimator, heatsink and low power IR spotting laser
originally intended for zapping sniper's eyeballs (scope optics make it even worse!)
but then found out how much fun it can be starting fires miles away
runs off a 12V car battery and power inverter
so many fun uses in Russia
with this tool you can be "The Johny Appleseed of Arson"
I love technology!
but regular 'ole matchbook and Zigarette works fine as well
za mir ludie!
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the difference is Ukrainians know where to attack, where Russian artillery is at it's weakest, and Ukrainians can pre-position their artillery to cover the attack
Russians would have to shift their artillery closer to the attack zone, this gives Ukraine an opportunity to attack Russian artillery using HI-MARS, when it's being transported and vulnerable, if the Russian artillery can't be suppressed then the Ukrainian special forces can withdraw, either way will leave a bunch of Russian casualties
long term, Russia has no military solution to achieve victory in Ukraine, at best they can TRY to hold on to MOST of the territory they've stolen
Russia's solution to winning, is to try and break the support chain (this is BY FAR the weakest link)
picture what would've happened to Britain, if all the support from the USA was cut-off in 1940
this solution will start to produce an escalation of asymetrical war against the West DIRECTLY
such as destroying the $30 million Reaper drone over the Black Sea a few weeks ago
this will lead to sabotaging western undersea cables, and other easily sabotaged items like oil and gas pipelines, shipping, etc
they want to raise the West's public's perception of a war risk, by actually starting a low-level asymetrical war with the West
this war fear will then be used by pro-Russian political candidates next year
and the rest I can't tell ya, cuz I don't want the FEDS knocking on my door again
Would be interesting to see, this article out today seems to think much the same as I thought that the Kherson crossings are more of a diversion attempt or at least to hold Russian units down while the main counter offensive happens elsewhere:
http://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230428-a-small-step-across-the-dnipro-river-a-giant-leap-for-ukraine-s-counteroffensive
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the Teixeira leak mentions
"and what kinds of satellite imagery the United States uses to track Russian forces, including an advanced technology that appears barely, if ever, to have been publicly identified."
but this system is SO SECRET, Teixeira didn't have much actual info, other than how important it is
it has "God-Like" AI power
can identify and track every russian tank, truck, canon, even individuals over a wide area
calculates logisitc requirements and tracks shipments and movements of Russian units
knows WAY more what the Russians are doing than the Russians
I can imagine the US government/military are very upset and angry at that young guy. My guess is that they are so peeved at him he's likely to get the full 20 years if he's ever seen from again. All down to an over his ego getting over excited online. Probably forgot the real gravity of what he was doing in the process. That type of stuff isn't really the type of stuff you want your enemy to have the heads up on.
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where I used to live in Sevastopol was just outside the "broken window" radius of the drone torpedo attack a few days ago...
Russians who live near "downtown" should put some duct tape in "X" shape over all the windows
I'd imagine that in the next month or so, "the bridge" is gonna get hit again...
Russians are lookin for low-hanging exploits against the west and the west has a problem with "escalation" so that's just encouraging Russians
in my most drug-fueled fantasy, President Biden calls me up, and appoints me as a startegic planner for disruption of Russian military and civilian infrastructure, sheeeeettt, I'd do it for free!!
I'd start out with the pipelines and refinery products going to asia, and move on from there
but so far, my phone is silent
c'mon Dark Brandon, pick me, put me in, I'm ready to play
yeah, media has already tied the success/failure of the Ukrainian offensive to future funding
so this ain't gonna be "no foolin around"
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The Russian oil depot at Sevastopol was hit by Ukrainian drones overnight.
In other news the Russian orc officers confirmed death toll in Ukraine since 24/2/22 has risen to 2,111 as at 27/4/23.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fu3Mz7gXwAAeDyl?format=jpg&name=small)
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dawg, there goes 40,000 tons of fuel oil for the Black Sea baby killin cruise missile launchers (combine that with drone torpedo a few days ago)
Russia gonna have to replace that by sending a tanker (which'll be it's own storage)
hope nothin happens to it
Kozacha Bay is loaded with all kinds of military facilities, now they got "black lung" occupational hazard to match their souls
nice video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDhX6GXhVTs
the fire was started by a single drone, two others were intercepted
deze drones be like little V-1 Buzz-Bombs
V-1 pulsejet was pure genuis, easily made from sheet metal, and only had one moving part!
but too loud!!
I'm scanning Telegram to see if Russian photos are posted of one of the intercepted drones
so I can figure out it's range and determine launch point
land or sea based launch?
what would be "totally rad" is to put a quadropter drone on top of a torpedo drone
and as it gets close to the shore have it take off, you can add more payload by needing less battery
the dewds making "narco" submarines by hand in Columbia are freakin amazing
Ukraine should copy their design
a very sophisticated design using graphite fiber to make it radar stealthy
park it in a "sea lane"
and wait for Russian vessels to pass by
either sink it, or hide in its wake all the way into Sevastopol
please don't hurt de dolphins, spossiba!
the torpedo drone shown below, unfortunately has a very visible signature on night vision, mainly due to the waves it creates from it's speed
but this is only the first generation
PS
Ukraine, why ain't ya'll farrady shielding your drones?
Russians are real good at big beefy Xmitters, been makin 'em for decades...
as you well know...
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Defenders of Donbas is worth a watch...it's on BBC News.
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here be a short russki video of one of dem Ukrainian drones that aimed for the clouds but hit Sevastopol
seems to have launched from Odesa
pretty sure Russia will launch a retaliation strike at Odesa in the coming days, apartments in Moldavanka most likely target
no faraday shielding on drones, c'mon guys...
was the American reaper drone downed by Russians in the black sea couple of weeks ago gettin radar sigs of Kozacha Bay?
l'il mini Putin and Gitler both made same mistake with their "V-weapons"
coulda used them against allied invasion forces preparing to launch Normandy invasion
but instead wasted them on civilians to promote terror and vengeance
history repeats or it least rhymes
l
http://twitter.com/i/status/1652228785104617472
this asymetrical warfare reminds me a lot of the British "Cockleshell Heroes" from the Great Patriotic War
BTW, Russia has put all their Cruise missile launching ships in port
take a limpit
and pimp it
then stick-it
PS
USA is doing a lot of nuclear preparation drills
we have a big one one this week in Houston (first we've ever had since cuban missile crisis)
I already haz iodine tabs and bunker
i'm sure it's nothin to worry 'bout, totally routine, nothin to see here (checks radiation meter)
a few yrs from now, I'm gonna build a new house in a northen climate zone
this time I'm gonna build a HUGE underground bunker complex
with smaller structure above
not only have a ready made delux bunker
but will fool tax authorities
cuz 75% of space will be invisble below ground
and I'll save HUGE on taxes
also lookin at livin' totally off-grid
gettin ready for the future that's creepin towards us
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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/06/counteroffensive-ukraine-zelensky-crimea/673781/
Dear Ukraine, don't trust Palintir, Peter Thiel was in Russia a few weeks ago
I'd so much love to be workin in one of those weapons shops....
I feel like the French did waiting for D-Day
listening to the coded messages on the radio
waiting for the announcement
viva la France
slava Ukrainia
whole freaking civilized world is watching you and putting their hopes on you
I'm hoping you kick putin's malenky jhoppa
and your maidan happens here in the USA one day
or at least the level of democracy we have here increases and matches what Ukrainian people have
my wife voted in 2006 Orange Revolution, I was blown away by Ukraine's highly democratic voting process compared to USA's
no more voter suppression, gerrymandering to benefit "status quo"
I love the smell of DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM in the morning!
smells like VICTORY!
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I was in Ukraine for the 'second election' in 2004.
Know why there was a 2nd election ???
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oops.. misremembered the date, you're right 2004 and not 2006
Tak! of course I know, cuz a Putin loving fascist candidate used electoral fraud to steal the election in Ukraine
does that sound vaguely familiar to you?
like Jan 6, when another Putin lovin' fascist presidential candidate tried the same thing, what a weird coincidence (or was it?)
contrast the voter suppression tactics in poor minority areas in the USA where people have to wait for hours standing in the cold to vote (during a pandemic, illegal to hand out water)
unlike where I live in a wealthy white enclave, where I never have to wait at all, cuz there isn't even a line, supprised we don't have a cappuccino/espresso machine
look how hard it is to vote by mail here in the USA
look how the Trump appointed head of the Post Office slowed down the mail to favor Trump during the election
and on and on and on....
and then contrast USA voting to voting in Ukraine,
towards the end of the election cycle in Ukraine, if the voting records show you haven't voted, then the poll workers show up at your door to help you fill out the ballot
so yeah, Ukrainian voting process is light years ahead of the USA, and that from a poor former communist country with little experience running a democracy
and the point you tried to make failed miserably, just like Fox news supporting the Jan 6, coup
so are ya gonna vote for Trump again next year? not enogh kool-aid for ya? need s'more?
Trump totally mismanaged EVERYTHING, which has tanked the economy, his administration is responsible for $7.8 trillion of the national debt
and the last year of his presidency, is the ONLY YEAR in US history in the last 400 years, where the white population DECLINED in the USA
I wonder how that poulation decline and $7.8 trillion added debt could possibly be in "your interest"
unless your "interests" are supporting white supremecy and homophobia against the LGBTQ community and all the other noble causes Republicans believe in
you should read some on Dietrich Bonhoeffer, there's even a film about him I think on Amazon Prime.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a German theologian and anti-Nazi dissident who was executed in Germany in 1945. He would be appalled at today's christo-fascists like the Huckabees ...
Bonhoeffer’s theory of stupidity is rooted in his belief that there are two types of people in the world: those who think and those who don't, he believed that it was not evil people who were the greatest danger to society- it was stupid people.
Stupid people, are often driven by a mix of selfishness, laziness, and ignorance. Stupid people lack the ability to think critically and evaluate information and are often content to blindly follow whatever is put in front of them.
look at the 1,000 stupid people who now have criminal records for "fighting for Trump" on Jan 6 over his "stolen election" claim
and the stupid people who voted for him and will vote for him again (you may know some)
mod: go ahead ban me, I'd rather hang with Bonhoeffer than be complicit in the creeping fascism in this country
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http://t.me/Novoeizdanie/49481
just off of Fort Constatine
3rd drone attack on Sevastopol in last week
happened today
smoke across the water
fire in the sky
also low level sabotage happening constantly in the same area, like damage to railroad tracks and arson
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Prigozhin claims that Wagner will leave Bakhmut on 10th May because of a lack of ammo.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvWeVBSX0AAq0Hh?format=jpg&name=small)
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Looks like Putler's pride and joy...his hypersonic missiles...ain't all that after all.
According to Defense Express data the air defence system successfully intercepted the Russian hypersonic missile X-47 "Kinzhai " at around 02:40 on May 4th over Kyiv.
It is likely that the Patriot missile defence system was used for the interception.
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“They came here as volunteers and are dying so you can sit like fat cats in your luxury offices.”
this mantra is starting to gain some traction in Russia amonst the gopnicks
and the more they suffer, the more they're gonna embrace this
so whoever co-opts this first will be the first to ride it to the top two years from now
having your own private Russian army(s) is a huge freakin advantage
you can say whatever the phuque you want without fear of the "authorities"
and if you can direct all the public anger TOWARDS the authorities
that's the ticket
let the electricity follow the path of least resistance
if only Prigozhin wasn't a Tambov....
yalky palky
nothing ever proceeds in a straight line in Russia
every path is crooked
on the boulevard of broken dreams
and I walk alone, I walk alone
dj blyatman autobus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIOHSAfJ4_s
half of all Russki autobus are now ammunition carriers in Ukraine after they lost all the trucks
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we ain't got no victory day parade
not because of security reasons....
no, management doesn't want the parents of dead soldiers to march with their photos
cuz the lines are gonna stretch for a long, long, long way
and managment don't like the optiks
middle aged people who used to walk in victory day parades with photos of their dead parents, now have photos of their dead kids
which is "more real" in Russia?
Reality?
or the "perception of reality"
have the doors of perception in Russia opened up yet?
cry "HAVOC!" and let slip, the Drones of WAR
then shall they be tremblin
in the basement of the kremlin
Pieces of Eight!!!
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The latest from Prigozhin today.
He still hasn't received the extra ammo he asked for.
He has however been informed by the Kremlin that if his Wagner's leave Bakhmut it will be considered as treason by mother Russia.He still reckons if the extra ammo doesn't arrive he's going to give a big fark you to Putler and withdraw his men from Bakhmut.
Kadyrov has said his men will replace the Wagner's in Bakhmut if they withdraw...whilst desperately pleading with Prigozhin not to withdraw. ;D
Prigozhin also said he's lost 500 men because the 72nd Brigade fled from Bakhmut.
He also said the AFU is breaking the orc flanks in the Bakhmut direction....and the AFU counter-offensive hasn't even started yet.
All this on Putler's Victory Day. ;D
Meanwhile Girkin says it's time to start thinking about preventing Russia from falling apart because military defeat is near....he's looking totally depressed ;D
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvhnQ2zWIAEn6ns?format=jpg&name=small)
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Crimea River of Tears
most ironic irony ever
is that Putin is destroying Russia in order to cement his big win in the next election,
to be made President for life by showing off his "great victory" and all the political capital that would've given him, but unfortunately....
dear comrads!
yes, we have no bullets
but that's OK, cuz we don't have any guns either
but we have plenty of empty vodka bottles, and leftover gas we haven't sold to india
and by combining these two we will launch incendiary attacks with human gopnick drones
they will charge towards the enemy making airplane sounds and holding molotov cocktail in each extended arm and drop them on Western armies secretly operating in Nazi occupied Ukraine who are determined to destroy Russia with their secret Bio-weapons labs
we Russians are TOTALLY in touch with reality, unlike westerners who promote men dressing as women, who are the opposite of REAL RUSSIAN men , who worship violence and destruction of everything NOT Russian (but actually end up destroying everything Russian-doh!)
Russians are so smart they played themselves, better than they played America with Trump
Russian Reality Distortion Field is devouring itself
it even ate Tucker Carlson
and it;s STILL hungry!!!
dawg, one thread of Russia's 2024 election interference has openly begun
RFK Jr.‘s podcast on Julian Assange and wikileaks on Bluesky. (google it)
RFK jr a democrat, will be an oligarch sponsored 3rd party candidate established SOLELY to take votes from Biden to help Trump win in next election
just one of MANY active measures being planned
because as Nancy Pelosi said, "when it comes to Trump, all roads lead to Putin"
I mean can you imagine Russia gets it's ass kicked in Ukraine during the next 18 months leading up to the US presidential election
but then Trump wins relection again....
can ya guess what would happen next?
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Looks like Bakhmut is nearly all gone, just a few streets remaining still held by Ukrainian forces according to this report:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65533192
So nothing to gain here but a devastated wasteland by the Russians. It's bought Ukraine a lot of time and stopped the Russians advancing, but it's cost both sides many lives.
The city of Bakhmut is no more and the population is gone.
So now just to see who will attack next and where. The report tells us Ukraine is ready to counterattack with up to 230 tanks and many new trained battalions. The Russians most likely still hold superior numbers but their armaments is perhaps questionable.
However, with Ukraine attacking and the Russians dug in they may have more of a struggle this time and victory may be more elusive. Many Ukrainian troops could potentially be lost.
Quite possibly Ukraine may wait for the Russians to make their next move on from Bakhmut and then counter it, or they may decide to strike first. Potentially I think they may be better off waiting for the Russians to move first and counter in the hope of routing the enemy at that spot right in through a then possibly weakened defensive line instead of risking an all out assault on Russian dug in and waiting for them which may prove harder to push back.
My guess is that within the next few weeks we'll find out.
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According to CNN the UK has delivered long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine,something Biden has been reluctant to do.
The Storm Shadow has a range of more than 250km ( 155 miles ).
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According to CNN the UK has delivered long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine,something Biden has been reluctant to do.
The Storm Shadow has a range of more than 250km ( 155 miles ).
Looks like the Himars have a limited range to about 49 miles so looks like the Russians switched to making their ammo dumps over that. Kind of wondered why we hadn't heard much more on the Himars of recent. The Cruise missiles the UK are supplying reach up to 200 miles bringing those new ammo dumps back into range. So that will really screw up the Russians ability to wage war & defend against a counter attack. They are already running out of ammo for Wagner at Bakhmut so it will help limit their ability to counter Ukrainian forces for long. Makes sense as tanks alone are probably going to struggle to make headway against a dug in defender considering the Russians probably have anti-tanks gear also. The Russians of course are not happy about it and as usual the bulky resorts to threatening which usually turn out to be idle threats but either way we can't afford to let that affect us:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12072375/Russia-threatens-Britain-adequate-response-military-supply-missiles.html
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none of this will really matter
the war will not be won or lost on the battlefield....
the moment the weakest link in Ukraine's arsenal supply chain is cut...
Ukraine will be lost
FSB has special teams on this (can't afford to phuque this up, it is literally Putin's last hope)
they're all over Americans like Mauricio Garcia the Texas mall shooter who posted on OK.RU, and the american airman who posted secrets on another Russian site.
Russian teams are combing all through alt-right web sites, lookin for the next Lee Harvey....
if Putin can once more engineer a win for Trump
Ukraine will fall and so to will the USA
you think he doesn't understand this
you think this is too far-fetched?
hahaha whatcha laughin at
ya'll gonna get a big SURPRIZE next year!!!
Manchurian candidate indeed...
note:
the "news media" isn't meant to provide "facts"
it's purpose is to control what information is passed to the masses to control what they think
and the truth is not part of that
we are all being played by oligarch owned media
who answer only to their own agenda$
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none of this will really matter
the war will not be won or lost on the battlefield....
the moment the weakest link in Ukraine's arsenal supply chain is cut...
Ukraine will be lost
FSB has special teams on this (can't afford to phuque this up, it is literally Putin's last hope)
they're all over Americans like Mauricio Garcia the Texas mall shooter who posted on OK.RU, and the american airman who posted secrets on another Russian site.
Russian teams are combing all through alt-right web sites, lookin for the next Lee Harvey....
if Putin can once more engineer a win for Trump
Ukraine will fall and so to will the USA
you think he doesn't understand this
you think this is too far-fetched?
hahaha whatcha laughin at
ya'll gonna get a big SURPRIZE next year!!!
Manchurian candidate indeed...
note:
the "news media" isn't meant to provide "facts"
it's purpose is to control what information is passed to the masses to control what they think
and the truth is not part of that
we are all being played by oligarch owned media
who answer only to their own agenda$
You think someone is going to shoot Biden?
He's so old he might not make it to 2024, then again neither may Donald (the groper) Trump.
Losing supply of munitions & armaments from the US would be a big blow for Ukraine.
They would still have weapons supply from the UK & EU though.
The pending Counter-offensive could prove pivotal for Ukraine. Now Ukraine is going to get Cruise missiles from the UK that should prove the decisive blow against Russian forces. Imagine being a Russian soldier there knowing that they can come down at any time causing big losses of troops, munitions with which to fight with, etc.
I'm surprised the UK announced it though, the element of surprise would have been even more shocking to Russian troops even if it was announced just a day or so before hand.
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don't make those assumptions...
if the USA drops out, others will to
especially if someone pushes them
it will be game over
Putin's plan is to just hold-out until the end of next year
if I were the secret service I knwo how I'd stop this
but they won't do anything radical or controversial
just "business as usual"
but I KNOW the Russians are coming for Biden
and if this happens, it's gonna be all over for us
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don't make those assumptions...
if the USA drops out, others will to
especially if someone pushes them
it will be game over
Putin's plan is to just hold-out until the end of next year
if I were the secret service I knwo how I'd stop this
but they won't do anything radical or controversial
just "business as usual"
but I KNOW the Russians are coming for Biden
and if this happens, it's gonna be all over for us
So if Biden wasn't around wouldn't the Democrats just put forward another nomination?
Hillary Clinton perhaps? If the field is a bit empty I can see Hillers giving it another go. Even though she has said she wouldn't do in the past after her 'final' attempt such a situation might create the right time & place for her to finally get in.
Or perhaps another candidate who like Biden is no fan of Russia.
Biden has always kind of looked a bit like Eisenhower to me.
Not sure if UK & EU would give up so easily. I think militarily they would just empty their arsenals by further donating more equipment to Ukraine. That won't be great for them but it would cost them little just leave them with reduced armaments, but then again if their not used eventually they get replaced anyway so might as well donate them when the need arises.
I think losing Ukraine is seen as too big a loss by the UK & EU that donating armament and having reduced armaments is seen as the least worst situation, after all the UK & EU don't have any other threat other than Russia. They know the score of letting Russia get too big & powerful from examples of the Soviet Union & Nazi Germany type of scenarios. They won't be wanting either of those scenarios again. At the moment Russia is having a very tough time making inroads into Ukraine so it makes sense to drain your enemy while they are having the harder fight.
For Ukraine it's probably better to try and win the war this year to avoid the risk of events elsewhere changing their fortune. However, Russia is suffering economically and that looks set to continue the longer it goes on. Russia's armaments are being destroyed and it's not quite clear whether Russia can replace them in sufficient quantity once they are used up. So increasingly Russia could get more & more run down. A weak Russia again is probably in our favour.
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"So if Biden wasn't around wouldn't the Democrats just put forward another nomination?"
sure, but how would that help?
Russians understand timing, do it the right time, and there really is no alternative but a Trump victory
this is the whole point, to help engineer a Trump victory like in 2016 (with hacking of emails and bribing FBI)
they will do it with these means as well
but they WILL have a backup plan, if polls aren't in their favor
Putin and Trump cannot afford Trump to lose next year, both of their futures depend on him winning
they will do EVERYTHING in their power to ensure his victory
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Krim,
You are a bit of a doom and gloom merchant. :)
Last year you was insisting Russia was going to deploy a Nuke on or over Ukraine in the fall.
Didn't happen did it ?
Regarding Ukraine's potential supply problems...well what about Russia's ?
Russia only had one spare tank for their Moscow victory parade..they've had to send T-55's to the front lines because they're running out of modern tanks.
We've got Prigozhin bleating about a lack of ammo and now we're hearing the orcs have got no anti-tank weapons to hold off the AFU tanks at Bakhmut,where the AFU is now starting to take ground on the flanks.
Looks like Russia's weakest link in the arms supply chain has already been found out....so how are they going to last the war ?
Biden has done a decent job supporting Ukraine but it's the UK who stepped up to the plate in being the first to supply anti-tank missiles,tanks and now long-range missiles while the USA has dithered.
We're now hearing the 31 USA Abrams won't be in Ukraine until early AUTUMN FFS !!
The EU has agreed a deal to supply Ukraine with a MILLION rounds of 155mm and 152mm artillery shells,for western and soviet arms,whilst Cherniev Yehor,Chair Ukraine delegation to NATO was saying on Sky News today that the counter-offensive is being delayed because the USA can't keep up with the production of artillery shells required.
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i still believe a Russian EMP is a possibility, as is Novichok as is a "Lee Harvey Oswald" solution....
and that if ANY of these solutions emerge, then the success of Ukraine's military campaign is irrelevant...
if the blowback from a major Ukrainian victory, is strong enough, that may be the trigger for Putin to employ one of these alternative solutions
I don't understand Putin's timing issues, maybe it's after the Russian presidential election, next March, 10 months from now
whatever the reasons, he's hedging his BIG plays against the west and Ukraine
something's holding him back, but he won't wait forever...
if Trump suspends aid, that's likely enough on it's own, to tip the scales away from Ukraine, but if the USA drops out, Europeans will be under pressure to do the same...
I don't think the war is gonna end the way ya'll think it is...
putin made a big mistake going mano-et-mano against Ukraine
he shoulda used his speciality of kgb methods
his play against Hillary was brilliant, and done with a couple of hackers and a bribe to the lead FBI investigator investigating Russian cyber crime
that's all it took
this is a testbook case of asymetrical warfare
he will have another opportunity to do this next year
there is already huge and constant daily media pumping of hunter biden's laptop story all over the news here
same as hillary's emails
with the same purpose and intent
if this is not enough then he will employ stronger techniques
Trump/Putin desperation will force them to take risks they would normally not consider
Russian right wing web sites are full of American white sumpremists
they just need to find the right one
and I KNOW they're lookin pretty damned hard to find him
you'll see what I mean next year...
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My guess is that the Presidential Election race itself is likely to be the opportune moment to take out Biden. While the President us not as often out and about as the contender he is likely to be more out and about than usual and more events often mean difficulty keeping up with security. That or they get an insider in the White House itself and they go for him there but likely also a tough one.
CB is right the UK has led the way with Ukraine in making it able to counter the Russian threat. If Ukraine had any sense they would see the UK as a staunch and dependable alky and get with the UK fully rather than the EU or the US. However, Zelensky seems to lack the realisation of how pivotal the UK is to Ukrainian victory. Even as we supply Ukraine with war winning Shadow Storm Cruise missiles Zelensky bitches about Eurovision not being held in a country bordering Ukraine. Honestly the lack of gratitude of that man is unbelievable, typical Ukrainian, if I were there I would go and spank his rear myself!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12076093/President-Zelensky-says-Poland-Slovakia-better-Eurovision-hosts-Britain.html
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To be honest I think the Storm Shadow Cruise missiles are more a tactical move of genius on our part. By giving them to Ukraine but making the Russians aware of them in advance it does two things. Firstly, it gives Russia notice to move their ammo dumps back over 200 miles away from the front libe or they will be destroyed (again). The Russians are likely to do so this time as they seem too short of ammo as it is. That will mean very lengthy supply lines that will make it just as hard for Russia to hold onto its positions similar to if the ammo dumps had been destroyed. Secondly it means that it's going to be very hard for Russia to advance into Ukraine further as their ammo dumps are always going to be at least 200 behind them in most instances.
Ben Wallace's statement the other day was just to pull the rug from under the Ukrainians by allowing Russia in effect notice to pull back their ammo dumps thereby making their lines of supply ridiculously long. Russia was peeved as it meant that they had been outmanoeuvred without the need to fire these cruise missiles. While Ukraine was likely upset that Russia was told about the upcoming threat before they were able to fire the missiles and destroy the ammo dumps.
By doing so it meant Russia was peeved but not so upset as they would be had their ammo dumps been destroyed with the cruise missiles so averting risk of escalating the conflict further. So thereby having little choice but to accept the situation and move on. Ukraine likely upset that they wouldn't be able to let the missiles have full affect or likely be worthwhile firing them but could say little other than it coming out in the Eurovision rebuke I reckon. Odds are these cruise missiles will never be fired or few of them as the UK has likely given them few of them with no guarantee of more. Thus Ukraine has to hold onto them unless there is a big ammo dump within the 200 miles to use them as a non- nuclear deterrent.
It's why I say if I was a Ukrainian I would just bugger off as you're little more than a little cared about expendable pawn in a western power's rich man's game.
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From Zelensky's televised address to his country last night.
" I spoke today with British Prime Minister Sunak.Thank you Rishi for your continued support and the steps which make it clear to the World that the UK will always lead the way . "
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Massive blow to the orcs yesterday when the Brigade Commander of the 4th Motorized Rifle Brigade ,Vyacheslav Makarov,was killed by an AFU artillery strike...confirmed by the Russian MOD.
The Brigade Chief of Staff was also killed.
They were killed south of the village of Ivankovskoye,near Bakhmut.
Apparently Makarov had gone to the front to try and rally his fleeing troops ...the orcs are seriously in trouble now as the 4th Brigade in the 2nd Army Corp was the most combat-ready they had.
Meanwhile there have now been 2,160 orc officers confirmed killed in Ukraine since February 24th last year..up to 11th May this year.
The destruction of the Russian military continues apace >:D
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Apparently Makarov had gone to the front to try and rally his fleeing troops ...
Haven't you heard . . . they are not fleeing?
They are repositioning to better defensive positions.
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tovarisch
10 minutes before the Ukrainian group Tvorchi from Ternopil took the stage at Eurvision a cruise missile hit Ternopil....
one of the candidates competing against Erdogan in Turkey was targeted by a "deep fake" sex video made in Russia, so he dropped out
Trump has announced that the traitor Michael Flynn will once more be part of Trump's inner circle once Putin helps him become president again
Putin does not care about how many Russian deaths there are, any more then Trump cared about how many American Covid deaths there were, their focus never leaves their own self-interest
Trump has a plan
Putin has a plan
They're pretty much the same plan
it's REAL easy to use America's own stupidity against itself
it already worked once
and if done right, will totally work once more
Cassandra who had the gift of prophecy foretold the fall of Troy, but was fated never to be believed.
Babylon, she gonna fall...
a fake Russian statue will lead to its undoing next year
Lao Tsu said, "always attack the enemy at its weakest point..."
after that, everything will be revealed
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wussup homies?
die hard digital detectives lookin through the web site http://www.importgenius.com/
were able to piece together how little Moscow in Trump Towers was able to circumvent sanctions and buy US aerospace components and ship them through Turkey to Russia
Oleg Sergeyevich Patsulya and Agunda Konstantinovna Makeeva are the first Trump Tower sanction busters to themselves be busted by the FBI (t'was in recent news)
this is just the first piece of eight that was uncovered, the whole treasure chest will be forthcoming, hopefully state dept can confiscate their assets, so there ass sets on the ground!!
disclaimer:
slovo te mamaichka
I do some bizness with other folks in the "tower" nothin illegal.... eta pravda
all roads from Trump lead to l'il mini Putin...
fake theocracy to ban democacy
no transexuals from transylvania
are gonna be over to entertain ya
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Russia fired 18 missiles into Ukraine last night.
6 Kinzhai ( the fabled hypersonics )
9 Kalibr
3 ground-launched missiles ( presumably S-300/400 )
Drones also.
All were shot down .
However,falling debris did hit a bus depot.
That's a lot of money spent by Putler to hit a couple of buses. ;D
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Ukraine went from crates of molotov cocktails made from old qvas bottles
and teachers, dentists and lawyers picking up old rifles straight out of museums.
To the best trained and equipped army in europe in just over a year!
and if Putin could't handle the old Ukrainian resistance
then he sure as hell isn't gonna succeed against the newer improved one
Slava Ukraina
it only took Russia $120+ million to destroy those two busses
busses are valid targets, considering that after Russia lost most of its trucks, they took city busses to transport munitions
maybe ice cream trucks are next, ding, ding, patrony...patrony...
those patriot AA missiles force the Russians to keep their missile launching planes out of their range, this adds a lot of extra time to the cruise missile flight paths, increasing their probability of being shot down
I just bought some Caliber missile "scud crud" from Ukraine off ebay to add to my collection of Israeli scud crud, and V-2 rocket parts!! (my grandchildren will be so THRILLED when they inherit this")
the only problem with this Ukrainian suceess is the mantra "nothing fails like success"
what this means is that it increases the probability that at some future juncture, l'il mini Putin will "escalate" into using something Ukraine/West can't counter
Russians believe it'll be a nuke
I'm more in the Novichok camp, there was no response to syria using Novichok
the west is very reluctant to escalate militarily, they're already pouring weapons and money in, and massive sanctions, what further deterrance can they impose that doesn't involve direct military intervention
Russians will boil the frog, maybe start out with a simple small binary Novichok attack done by the Lugansk People's Army nudge..nudge...wink...wink... and then raise the temperature to boil the frog
l'il mini putin is waiting for the carpenters to finish his "Trojan Horse"
beware of Russians bearing gifts moy druzya
even Achilles was vulnerable once you knew his weakness
millions of innocents will suffer
but everything putin created will be destroyed
Ukraine is not dead yet, and never will be
Amerika, however is a different story
The Florida American history exam.
Instead of “slaves” the exam said “forced servants.
Japanese internment camps were referred to as a “relocation program.”
books about the holocaust have been banned from school libraries
meanwhile, christo-fascists urge their followers to fight mermaid people
http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2023/05/awaken-america-speaker-warns-people
"it can't happen HERE"
oh really, it already is....
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demographic impact on Russia of the war in Ukraine is starkly revealed by the statistic that in 2022, the war likely caused the death of every second Russian who died between the ages of 20 and 24
but nobody in Russia cares...
even mentioning this would likely get you a fine for criticizing authorities
everybody in Russia learns how to shut their eyes and mouth and just be a "good prisoner" to avoid punishment
this is about the only thing you can hope for in Russia...
ya know, this is such a swell system, why doncha all try creating it here in Amerika
you'll have an opportunity next year to do so
this country gonna be like Jonestown baby
after dumb phuques guzzle the trump-flavored kool-aid again
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demographic impact on Russia of the war in Ukraine is starkly revealed by the statistic that in 2022, the war likely caused the death of every second Russian who died between the ages of 20 and 24
Does this equate to a lot of pooty tang for your Trenchie in the future :D
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Trench
you want me to be a gypsy and tell ya yur fortune?
think of a broad lake, that has a series of stepping stones from one shore to the distant opposite shore
to get across the lake you have to leap from stone to stone
and each stone is more difficult than the preceeding one
after years of furious contemplation, you're still on the shore trying to figure out how to jump to the first stone
your "social gene" isn't to blame Trench
your analysis paralysis always leaves you standing on the closest shore, looking forlornly at the opposite shore
and that emotion of longing is as close as you get, cuz when it comes time to jump - you don't jump, cuz you're afraid of leaving the shore of yo mama's quaint little village
and as long as you keep doing this, why do ya expect you're gonna go across the lake me boyo?
that's 2 pounds, please....
WOT? who's this silly lookin bugger? what happened to the Queen?
she WHAT?
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latest missile score-card 19/20
Ukraine positions its air defense to protect civilian centers like Kyiv
as a result, Russian missile attrition rate is now over 90%
ergo, targetting children, hospitals, etc produces a diminishing return...
I would imagine that at some point russia will seek to kill children in less defended areas, especially as its supply of raketa is diminishing
Hypersonic missile developers under arrest day after missile failures
reminds me of Russia's first nuclear test back in '49, if it had failed, Stalin ordered the nuclear engineers to be shot as punishment
the more things change in Russia...
Zelensky is aware of the danger posed by Trump's "election"
he knows he has to take Crimea before then
I totally see his plan when he gets all the material he needs
but I will not comment on it here
I told my wife's relatives in Crimea to GTF out of Crimea
but they don't wanna listen
denial is not a river in Egypt
it's how russians view the world
yet another partisan train attack in crimea
and a russian cruise missile fired towards Odesa crashed into a field in western crimea
they aimed for Odesa but hit Vulkanivka...
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12093811/Russia-detains-three-hypersonic-rocket-scientists-treason-charges-despite-outcry.html
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Saw this news article this morning:
Via Euronews: Sexual assault victims from Ukraine face challenges in Poland and Hungary, report says
http://www.euronews.com/2023/05/19/sexual-assault-victims-from-ukraine-face-challenges-in-poland-and-hungary-report-says
Aside from the main thrust of the article itself I was surprised to learn that there are now 10 million Ukrainians who are now no longer living in Ukraine but are refugees. That's roughly a quarter of Ukraine's population which kind of shocked me, I'm assuming it's true, I hadn't realised that the number of refugees has climbed so high.
Mostly that will be women and children, or women singles. Some may be old grannies of course but likely a lot of them fairly young. Well it's a large chunk out of a population so must be a bit of a state in Ukraine as currently only the eastern part of Ukraine is affected directly. Guessing that it's mostly the men that are left then a few women young & old and children who stayed on. So must be quite a different scene to how things were, can't really imagine it really.
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According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs there are 7,989,000 Ukrainian refugees living abroad as at 1/2/23.
Of these 5,840,000 are adults.
The UK hasn't proven a very popular destination with 140,300 living here.
There are 158,613 living in Moldova.
By far the highest number are in Poland with 1,786,000,followed by Germany with 1,200,000.
I suspect very few attractive Ukrainian women refugees who were single will return to Ukraine to live....they'll have been hooking up with local guys as a means to get out of the country on a permanent basis.
It's sad how a country can be destroyed so much by the ambitions of an evil autocrat,and hopefully i will see Russia pay for this over the short and long-term with the destruction of their country too in my lifetime.
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Interesting news article today reckons it's not just Wagner troops that are being drugged and sent to the slaughter but also Russian Army troops, mostly new recruits conscripted in poorly trained (if at all) and armed:
http://www.lbc.co.uk/news/disposable-russian-troops-using-drugs-ukraine/
A pretty nasty way to treat anybody, they are sent in to almost certain death, if the Ukrainian side doesn't shoot them then their own side do if they try to retreat. Basically just to keep pressure up on the Ukrainians and to give away Ukrainian positions, etc. Must be terrible for the Russians involved their lives being used as bait and valued so little. Many probably know the fate that is going to befall them but have no option at that stage. Not sure whether the drug taking is voluntary or forced, probably many troops used like this would rather not be all present up top for what lies in store.
My guess is that the Russians must be using up their conscripts at an alarming rate like this. No doubt the Ukrainians are taking casualties as a result but it seems a self defeating way for the Russians to wage war. A total waste of far too many men for too little gain in my opinion.
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what's worse in my view
is the whole bakmhut operation
is just so Prigozhin can show a wagner flag to Russian media flying over bakmhut
and the whole Ukrainian special operation
was just so Putin could show a ukrainian banner laying on the ground to Russian media on election day
more people die for glory and power for the few than any other cause
it's a universal truth, that the people at the top always phuque the people below them
every fire that happens in Russia
is from someone who understands and is fighting back
one day we'll all be fighting back
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Well the battle for Bakhmut is finally over due to there not longer being a Bakhmut to fight for. Both sides claim victory but in reality neither won.
Estimated casualties (mostly troops I assume) were 100,000 I'm guessing for both sides combined but strong likelihood is that Russian Wagner troops lost the most men by a long way.
Wagner are apparently moving out later this week from the Bakhmut area likely very depleted and exhausted. Russian regular troops will apparently replace their positions. Ukrainian troops have retaken the strategic hills surrounding what was Bakhmut.
Russia is apparently thought to be low in troop numbers again so now would be a good time to attack while they may be in a weakened state. Possibly Putler may try to draft in more troops though conscription though I can't see many people turning up knowing what happens to conscripts who do turn up. Fleeing for the border even as an illegal migrant would likely be the better option for Russians facing call up.
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Biden said at the G7 yesterday that Russia has suffered more than 100,000 troops killed or wounded at Bakhmut.
Wagner says they're pulling out of Bakhmut between 25th May and 1st June.
The AFU has said yesterday they're continuing to make progress on the flanks of Bakhmut and that they still hold the SW of what's left of the town...they have a partial encirclement of Bakhmut and they'll be in a position to hit the high buildings where the Wagner's are located.
Sounds like the plan is to flatten what little is left of the town and the Wagners in it.
Prigozhin knows this hence why he wants to get what's left of his troops out of there sharpish.
We shall see who wins the race.
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Some recently developing news of interest:
http://www.politico.eu/article/pro-ukraine-russian-soldiers-storm-border-region-claim-liberation-of-villages/
The beginning of Russia breaking up or just a bunch of wacko's?
Potential for the west to back such groups if not already, the more chaos in Russia the more difficult for Putler to wage war. I suggested this as a course if action at the start so whether they have actually gotten to it?
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i'd consider this a "psy-op" as opposed to a conventional military operation
it's designed to influence the opinions of the locals
as well as make Putin paranoid so that he commits some blunder in response
when the Russians counter-attack the russo-ukrainians can just head back across the border to kharkiv
it's also a REALLY old strategy to send out raiding parties
and try to entice the enemy to chase you back home
and then you lead em into a prepared trap
the fact that ukrainians are not acting defensively
let's me believe the major offensive is not far off
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Blinken today.
"The Kremlin has often claimed it has the second strongest military in the world....and many believed it. Today,many see Russia's military as the second strongest in Ukraine ".
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Looks like the Orcs finally did it! They blew up the Nova Khakovka Dam!
http://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-06-23/index.html
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The Russians may be in retreat. They have a tradition of destroying everything when retreating, they did it when Napoleon invaded and when the Nazis invaded. If they don't have it, nobody can have it seems to be their philosophy.
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Ukrainian farmer busy with his tractor.
http://youtu.be/65AcEc9PD_w
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Video's now out there showing that the villages of Neskuchne and Blahodatne in the Donetsk region have both been liberated from the orcs.
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the Northern Crimean Canal is now down forever!!!
no more water is gonna flow through there
it's the first thing the war has cut-off from Crimea
next will be the two major rail lines and two main highways
and then the gas pipelines and power lines and the kerch bridge
my wife's family are all mobiks
anyone with past military service in Crimea has already been conscripted up into late 40s age (and my wife's family is a military family with almost universal service)
we have father/son and brother/brother combos who are deployed now
they are now on the Zaporizhzhia front after spending months and months of digging trenches in northern crimea
they are all wearin beards and tryin to look like Chechens
I can't show photos cuz I don't wanna jeabordize them
if I were still livin in Crimea, me and my daughters would have no choice but to work for the GRU to stay out of jail
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I haven't seen a video yet,but Makarivka.also in the Donetsk region, >:D has now been liberated from the orcs officially.
I cannot confirm but i've been informed that the AFU is advancing at around 5km per hour and the orc lines are collapsing.
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After the initial impetus i think it's fair to say the AFU counter offensive has slowed down.Either that or people were getting carried away with the initial reporting.
Latest news from the Ukrainian MOD is that over the past week the AFU liberated seven villages in the Donetsk and Tavria areas,advanced 6.5 km's and gained control of 90 square km's.
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After the initial impetus i think it's fair to say the AFU counter offensive has slowed down.Either that or people were getting carried away with the initial reporting.
Latest news from the Ukrainian MOD is that over the past week the AFU liberated seven villages in the Donetsk and Tavria areas,advanced 6.5 km's and gained control of 90 square km's.
Most of what we are seeing now are the strong probing attacks that are looking for the weak spot in the Russian lines. Ukraine has yet to even engage with their heavy armored assault brigade reserves yet. They are using fast light vehicles with heavy machine guns, a few tanks and infantry to clear out the trenches first.
These probing attacks are showing very good signs of success. The main attack will follow in time.
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c'est un petite appetizer
the main course of this red banquet has yet to be served...
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Breaking news from Russian channels of a large number of orcs killed at Kreminna this morning...the Ruskies have gone into meltdown. ;D
The orcs were hanging around for two hours, waiting for their pre-assault on AFU positions motivational speech from their General, when HIMARS arrived instead. >:D
Involved was the 20th Army and it's General Sukhrab " if they die,they die " Akhmedov,known for last years Vuhledar kamikaze charge.
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Reuters went to Storozhneve,in particular the road which is shown on the footage of June 12th.
"The road is littered with Russian corpses and knocked-out Russian armoured vehicles." Reuters commented on the released footage.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FymqN6bWYBEZYEj?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FymqPhwWYAsoeuA?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FymqQwiWYCIgFZG?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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Ukrainians were forced to be bilingual. But I believe Russian will be replaced with English over time in Ukraine.
Looks like you were right Boe:
http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/17/7407304/
Assuming Ukraine wins the war of course.
I expect nothing less than good proper British recieved pronunciation English. Only those sounding like Jacob Rees Mogg will be acceptable ;D
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I don't intend posting on here a lot in the near future but for the record I will briefly state where I am on the current Ukrainian Counter-offensive.
Before the counter offensive started I had my doubts, namely that the western tanks the west gave Ukraine would not necessarily be the answer that Ukraine needed largely because Russia has anti tank stuff like the NLAWS & Javelins, mines and attack helicopters, etc so western tanks wouldn't necessarily be as affective as many thought in spear heading the Ukrainian counter offensive.
So that doesn't leave a lot else on which to spear head a Counter-offensive. It may still be early days but only a few villages have been taken so far so practically nothing of any value. Apparently Ukraine is not using its whole army at the moment probably so it doesn't risk over committing, losing a lot of troops then being pushed back itself.
One big mistake Ukraine seems to have made is waiting 12 months before counter attacking. That's given Russia time to dig in multiple defences and beef up it's troop numbers. So Ukraine is attacking territory where Russia is now well prepared so that's not a great strategy and a blunder on Ukraine's part. Still Ukraine might still prevail and push through if Russia can be found wanting anywhere along its defensive line. Ukraine should have really counterattacked 12 months ago but were too careful in risking big casualties which is understandable but it may be difficult to avoid if Ukraine wants to win.
Possibly in the next few days or weeks Ukraine might still be able to make bigger gains but I'm starting to doubt it.
That can be a big problem going forward as Russia knows from Afghanistan that the West can't keep up funding a war long term and Ukraine is now totally dependent on western funding. So if Ukraine can't manage a big break through this year in a Counter-offensive then long term it's future may start to look more bleak.
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Carnage among the orcs currently.
Russian Deputy Commander of the Storm Ossetia battalion ,Tekhov Alvengo,died in P'yatykhatky.Russian sources claim that along with him almost an entire battalion ( 300 ) of fighters died during recent fights for the small village,which the AFU have now liberated.
Over 1000 orcs killed in Ukraine yesterday.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fy7i3x1WwAAtyjG?format=png&name=small)
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the Northern Crimean Canal is now down forever!!!
no more water is gonna flow through there
it's the first thing the war has cut-off from Crimea
next will be the two major rail lines and two main highways
and then the gas pipelines and power lines and the kerch bridge
my wife's family are all mobiks
anyone with past military service in Crimea has already been conscripted up into late 40s age (and my wife's family is a military family with almost universal service)
we have father/son and brother/brother combos who are deployed now
they are now on the Zaporizhzhia front after spending months and months of digging trenches in northern crimea
they are all wearin beards and tryin to look like Chechens
I can't show photos cuz I don't wanna jeabordize them
if I were still livin in Crimea, me and my daughters would have no choice but to work for the GRU to stay out of jail
How are they getting on? Some days into Ukraine's Counter-offensive now. British Intelligence reckons there are heavy losses on both sides.
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i'm not currently allowed to tell anything about my family in order maintain operational security, so NO COMMENT!!!
but unlike Wagner, mobiks are in until the war is over
mobiks have never made so much money in their lives
so even theough they are all gonna die, they're gonna die rich, so they're happy!!!
FREAKIN RUSSIANS!!!
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Putin's War according to Prigozhin
"The desire of Russia's ruling clan, who were not satisfied with the Donbas, was to appoint Medvedchuk as the president of Ukraine and divide its assets between each other for plundering"
so actually...
according to him,
all you Russians are sending your kids to get killed and maimed over the issues related to the stealing and lying of Russia's 'ruling clan' while THEIR kids are safe in multi-million euro homes in the West.
this means Russians are as freakin dumb as republicans and poor southerners who fought for slave owning masters whose sons were safe at home!!!!
dumbkopfs
I really want to disassociate myself from 'white people' even though I 'present' as white
cuz so MANY white people are SO FREAKIN DUMB!!!!
WTF??!!!
once Russians undestands this
that whole place'll burn like a pile of dry leaves
too many fires to count
everyone with a lighter is a potential russian freedom fighter
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It's all kicking off in Russia now.
The FSB has issued an arrest warrant on Prigozhin.
Prigozhin claims the military are fully behind him...and that the invasion of Ukraine was a sham based on fabrications from the Kremlin regime,with the Russian soldiers now drowning in rivers of blood because of the lies.
BBC Newsnight says there are unconfirmed reports of a Russian rebel army moving toward Rostov with the FSB racing to meet them.TV news channels throughout Southern Russia are being hacked with direct messages from Prigozhin to the Russian people.
Videos showing military trucks moving into Moscow city centre.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMWjYTRkgfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbyY2zSsDI
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Exciting times! thanks CB and Dear John Green. I'm also following in the news channels. Looks like civil war could all of a sudden be kicking off now. Who would have thought it would be Wagner to go at it first. Who knows possibly the Russian Republic Regions may follow suit. Looks like this may possibly end the war in Ukraine. If enough Russian troops side with Wagner they may all end up deserting the territory in Ukraine and focus on their own civil war. In which case love tours to Ukraine may soon be a goer once again ;)
Just have to see what happens.
Looks like from the report that DJG put up that some Wagner troops are already in Moscow having been based near there.
Anyone with discontent to Putler may find an opportunity here to rise up against him.
Hopefully this will evolve into quite a firefight and not a damp squid with a bit of luck.
If I were Ukraine I would strike pro-Kremlin forces as hard as possible now with all their might and completely hold off in areas of pro-Progozhin forces. That could make pro-Kremlin forces crack, break and run even desert the front. That could have the effect of rolling up Russia's whole front line in Ukraine with both Ukraine & pro-Progozhin forces hitting pro-Kremlin forces from both directions making it too much for them to take. If Ukraine let it be known that they aren't looking to attack pro-Progozhin forces that could aid them in both themselves and pro-Progozhin forces being able to concentrate their attacks on pro-Kremlin forces. If pro-Progozhin forces remain after pro-Kremlin forces are defeated in Ukraine then Ukraine can easily tell them to leave quickly into Russia or be annihilated by Ukraine's then superior forces and flanking ability. My guess is that they would see the game is up and leave Ukraine otherwise an easy win for Ukraine anyway.
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According to AFU troops on the ground Bakhmut has become a" bloodbath" for orcs as rebels turn on those loyal to the Kremlin regime and kill each other.
General Surovikin has pleaded on video with the columns of Wagner orcs marching to Moscow to lay down their arms.
Russian sources say that Progozhin has said any troops sent against his troops will be killed and any aircraft sent against them will be shot down.
There are reports of some orc Helicopter pilots refusing to take off and engage with Prigozhin's army.
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If I were Ukraine I wouldn't pass up an opportunity like this. I would hit pro-Kremlin forces in Ukraine with everything there is even using HIMARS & Storm Shadow missiles on lower value troop concentrations. Add in continuous artillery move all the tanks to the front and then press in with all the ground troops they can muster in one big wave. Hitting the hell out off pro-Kremlin Russian Army troops now will send them into a blind state of panic and fear and make them break and run. Many of the Russian troops are conscripts without much combat ability, training or experience. Upon seeing their troops vapourised before their eyes they won't want to risk that happening to themselves and they'll flee the field.
If Ukraine doesn't act it could miss it's one big chance to end this war.
Prigozhin's troops are much smaller than the Russian Army apparently about 25,000 but tend to include some heavily experienced fighters, but they need to move well to stay in the game in territory that is now largely hostile to them. It's in Ukraine's interest to help keep them in the game by hitting pro-Kremlin Russian Army troops hard so they can't deal with the Wagner forces. That way Wagner forces will create havoc for Putler behind the line in Russia thereby making it easier for Ukraine to defeat Russian troops in Ukraine.
With Wagner troops moving in on Moscow I'm glad I'm not a tourist there at this moment in time.
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Well looks like it may be getting boring all of a sudden with Prigozhin having cut a deal. Seems strange as not sure what deal he could cut and can not be a good idea in that position as I wouldn't trust Putler or any of the others to hold up their end of the bargain. Once stood down they might well go for Prigozhin anyway. Ukraine looks like they lost their chance to crack the Russian Army quickly by not acting soon enough. All a bit of an anti-climax really.
Update: Looks like Prigozhin is going to be offered sanctuary in Belarus & charges dropped. Not sure why Prigozhin went for such a deal, he's a mercenary captain who will be accepting sanctuary from Lukashenko a Communist who is also Putler's pal with Russia on his doorstep. So how long is Prigozhin likely to live for in Belarus??? My guess is that he will be knocked off pretty quickly.
Not sure what is happening with the Wagner troops, I assume they won't be joining Prigozhin in Belarus so probably sucked into the Russian Army, can't see them letting go of all those troops they can use at the front by disbanding them.
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I'm starting to get concerned about Ukraine's counter-offensive....it's painfully slow.
This wasn't unexpected at all...the orcs were clearly going to be well dug-in and prepared.
My concern stems from the upcoming USA Presidential elections next year when, if Biden doesn't win, the military support from the USA could suddenly stop,which would leave Ukraine in serious trouble.
The former Ukrainian PM was talking today and was saying it's going to take a long time to get the orcs out of Ukraine...i'm not sure Ukraine will have that time.
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I'm starting to get concerned about Ukraine's counter-offensive....it's painfully slow.
This wasn't unexpected at all...the orcs were clearly going to be well dug-in and prepared.
My concern stems from the upcoming USA Presidential elections next year when, if Biden doesn't win, the military support from the USA could suddenly stop,which would leave Ukraine in serious trouble.
The former Ukrainian PM was talking today and was saying it's going to take a long time to get the orcs out of Ukraine...i'm not sure Ukraine will have that time.
I totally agree CB, I've had my doubts also. Looking at the map too little ground has been taken so far and I don't think it's because they are preparing the way. I think it's because they are finding it too tough going as said because Russian troops had a long time to dig well in and prepare.
Ukraine also isn't that strong in the air, that's less of an issue when defending and Russia going into Ukraine's airspace where they are up against SAM's but that reverses around when Ukrainian planes enter Russian airspace in Russian controlled areas of Ukraine where Russia will have SAM's and can field many more planes with less risk.
So without much air support when attacking Ukraine has difficulty attacking in the ground. Along with that Ukraine doesn't really have anything that Russia doesn't have in its arsenal in general terms. Sure it has HIMARS & Storm Shadow but Russia has cruise missiles and has adapted to negating the effect of HIMARS & the like by avoiding concentrations of supply where it can. The tanks we gave Russia has anti tank mines, anti tank hand held Javelin type of stuff, anti tank helicopter & plane missiles. So with a lot of it, it's pound for pound. Ukrainian troops have been trained up well but they're attacking which is often harder than defending. Odds are Russian conscripts have probably had some training over the Winter/Spring also.
I think they lost out today in not moving quick enough and hard enough to take advantage of the disarray in Russia. Had they hammered Russian troops hard they may had caused many to break & run, defect to Prigozhin, etc. So not waiting much when something like that happens is really the key. Putting pressure on the enemy when they are vulnerable and make them crack.
If anything today has shown is that the west & Ukraine are likely using the wrong strategy in trying to defeat Russia head on in the field. The clue is to be more canny, try and find dissident groups in Russia to fund and equip with weapons. Even Regions of Russia that may be happy to break away from Russia. Get them onside, build up their ability to stage a successful uprising against a Russia whose main forces are concentrated in Ukraine and go that way about it. A Russia that has its own big problems at home isn't going to be so bothered about what is happening in Ukraine. It's why Russia wasn't bothered about Ukraine in the 90s they had their own economic woes, military & power struggle woes will work just as well at that.
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i'm not currently allowed to tell anything about my family in order maintain operational security, so NO COMMENT!!!
but unlike Wagner, mobiks are in until the war is over
mobiks have never made so much money in their lives
so even theough they are all gonna die, they're gonna die rich, so they're happy!!!
FREAKIN RUSSIANS!!!
Apparently the Wagner troops that were involved aren't going to face criminal charges. The ones that weren't are going to be offered a contract with the Russian Army. So I guess you were right Wagner troops at large aren't going to be in it till the war is over lol.
So isn't your wife upset that she could lose the family that has been conscripted? Brother, etc.
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"So isn't your wife upset that she could lose the family that has been conscripted? Brother, etc."
she's "all tied up" at the moment in bed and hence unable to reflect on the circumstances of her family
after i'm finished, i'll let her go....
and perhaps then she will think about it...
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Pretty intense trench warfare fighting
http://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672939251598589953?t=Psm0C9WOVeZUPglfq_1LVQ&s=19
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Saturday summarised
http://youtu.be/8BXhzdpP-lU
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out of 90 000 Russians at the Zaporizzhia front(where my relatives are), about 16 000 are dead or wounded through the first 20 days of the offensive.
but all the russians who died, died wealthy(so they think), so no problema
russian survivors all look like chechens with their gray beards and run down appearance, cuz they're all unshaven middle aged mobiks livin in a swamp!!!
- out of 990 Russian artillery pieces, 300 have been destroyed.
this is a big problem, cuz nothing to shoot hohols with when they launch their big attack AND that's why Ukrsoldat are doin it!!!
first Russian defense line is ALREADY cracking like a Wagner roadblock
the coup attempt has put the focus on the cracks that are appearing in Russian society and not just between wagner vrs Russian gov supporters
longer the war goes on, the larger these cracks become
if pootin is trying to 'wait it out' in Ukraine until he absolutely ensures Trump's campaign victory so Trump cancels all aid
I think the coup shows that he doesn't have that much time left....
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out of 90 000 Russians at the Zaporizzhia front(where my relatives are), about 16 000 are dead or wounded through the first 20 days of the offensive.
but all the russians who died, died wealthy(so they think), so no problema
russian survivors all look like chechens with their gray beards and run down appearance, cuz they're all unshaven middle aged mobiks livin in a swamp!!!
- out of 990 Russian artillery pieces, 300 have been destroyed.
this is a big problem, cuz nothing to shoot hohols with when they launch their big attack AND that's why Ukrsoldat are doin it!!!
first Russian defense line is ALREADY cracking like a Wagner roadblock
the coup attempt has put the focus on the cracks that are appearing in Russian society and not just between wagner vrs Russian gov supporters
longer the war goes on, the larger these cracks become
if pootin is trying to 'wait it out' in Ukraine until he absolutely ensures Trump's campaign victory so Trump cancels all aid
I think the coup shows that he doesn't have that much time left....
Good to have some figures to get an idea of how it is going out there Krim so many thanks for that.
Not sure I get the dying wealthy bit, surely that no longer matters when dead?
What is the deal anyway I assume they get extra money go to their family if they don't make it?
Something tells me even my small earnings/wealth would look good against it particularly accounting for risk.
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Ben Wallace said today in Parliament that Ukraine has now liberated approx 300 square km's of territory from the orcs during the counter-offensive.
"They continue to make gradual but steady tactical progress."
"Russia do not appear to have the uncommitted ground forces needed to counter the multiple threats it is now facing from Ukraine ,which extends over 200km from Bakhmut to the eastern bank of the Dnipro river."
His full speech can be seen on Ministry of Defence GB @DefenceHQ.
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Good to have done figures to get an idea of how it is going out there Krim so many thanks for that.
Not sure I get the dying wealthy bit, surely that no longer matters when dead?
What is the deal anyway I assume they get extra money go to their family if they don't make it?
Something tells me even my small earnings/wealth would look good against it particularly accounting for risk.
The vast majority of the orcs come from a background of poverty..they probably didn't have the money to flee the mobilization when it was announced.
So,i'm guessing that when you're lying there in the Ukrainian swamp,your leg blown off by a mortar round hitting you and bleeding out,you'd be thinking well at least i'm not gonna die poor,so at least i did something with my life .
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Lukashenko has put his troops on full combat readiness.
Looks like idea might be that the part of Wagner that chose Belarus go there and join up with Lukashenko's forces and launch an attack on Ukraine from the north. My guess would be towards Lviv in an attempt to cut off the land border. Another attempt in Kyiv I think would be foolish considering the bad experience Russian troops had on that one.
If so it would open up a second front again thereby putting more pressure on Ukraine and possibly forcing them to halt the Counter-offensive in the east.
Potentially this may have been brought about/early by the attempted Wagner coup unsettling matters in Russia thereby Putler realising that he may not now have the time he did to gain victory in Ukraine.
Either that or Lukashenko is in fear of the Wagner troops being invited into Belarus lol.
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a murder of crows (chorny varonna) in moscow
is that a tactical nuke in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?
pootin can't remain in this spot much longer...
he has to make a decisive move SOON, he can't wait for Trump to save him
he needs to do something now to solidify his position BEFORE the election
cuz right now - he's LOSING in Ukraine with the momentum shifting away from him!!!
i still believe that novichok is the better choice compared to nukes
it makes a lot of sense for the world's militaries to switch to chemical and biological weapons of warfare compared to large resource consuming methods of warfare
like ships and armies, etc
pootin could pioneer this like the germans did with poison gas in WWI
if I were pootin, i'd novichok the crap outta the entire ukrainian military and get zelensky to in a massive country-wide novichok attack
and it'd be over and done with before NATO could react
the russian military just picks up the pieces of whoever's still alive
then i'd phuqueing declare victory
and ride shirtless on a horse with a rifle slung across my back into kiev (new spelling)
as asia's oil, gas, and now wheat supplier
you people in asia want these resources? cash only...
oops...
postscript
based on my spread sheet analysis
if Ukraine can keep up the current pace until the end of summer
then Russia will have almost no tanks/artillery/rocket launchers left
and Ukraine's heavy brigades, about 50,000, who are currently training... are not even at the front yet
so imagine adding 50,000 fresh troops with western tanks while wagner is withdrawing to belarus
advice to ukrainians
flame throwers for taking Russian trenches
then create a telegram channel of russian soldiers burning alive (make sure the volume is all the way up!) and try to get 10 million hits in Russia with them before they're taken down
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BBC news correspondent in Kyiv tonight asked on top military General type and f guy at a reception how it was going (the Counter-offensive) he gave a very slowly gesture. Better than losing ground or having the war going very slowly against you but not yet enough. Not likely as hoped by now seems to be the case for the Ukrainian Counter-offensive.
My guess is that the Ukrainians are likely losing similar numbers of troops to the Russians in the Counter-offensive. That seemed to be the case from a news report a week or so back when both sides were actively at it that it reported both sides were taking heavy losses. With the attacker usually more likely to take greater losses my guess is that Ukrainian & Russian losses are about the same rate accounting for likely better training, equipment, weapons & tactics on the Ukrainian side verses no so on the Russian side but dug in defensive positions and possibly higher troop numbers.
I think the Ukrainians really lost their chance by not moving and hammering the Russian troops with all they got (HIMARS, Storm Shadow, etc) early on in the Wagner rebellion. Had they used that to break the morale of the Russian troops many could have fled and Prigozhin seeing that would be emboldened to hold fast.
Ukrainians at this point need to just keep plugging away at their Counter-offensive, the opportunity has been missed but over time the Russians might still be worn down. An attack from Belarus is still a threat but they will just have to hope that doesn't happen and prepare for it by recruiting enough troops to reinforce the lines there in case it does.
I agree that Putler is now likely sitting with less time to play with as a result of the Wagner rebellion farce. So he is likely to feel pushed into doing something soon to try and make a play for a victory to see off thoughts of his replacement. Getting Belarus to attack Ukraine is a strong possibility I think. Chemical or nuclear weapons are too much of an intellectual response for Russians I think they seem to like to slog it out man to man, thumping each other to prove who is the most strongest, chemicals & nukes doesn't give them the macho buzz they need to feel.
Something will come soon from the Russian side no doubt it seems.
Flame throwers are a horrific and terrible weapon that would strike fear into most enemies. I don't think Ukrainians would use them however as although it could freak out some Russian soldiers it's also likely to lose Ukraine support abroad as a barbaric and cruel method. So it could end up doing more damage than good as if Ukraine starts to look bad abroad and lose support so does it lose its supply of arms that it crucially relies upon.
So at the moment Ukraine's game is to make sure it hold in there by preparing itself well, continuing with the Counter-offensive in hope of a break through. It can't afford not to continue pushing the Russians back as long term matters are not likely to be on its side unless it gets lucky. I think Putler rather than Russia as a whole is on the brink at the moment and he looks wavery. That said it's uncertain who any replacement might be and what their position on the Ukraine war might be so I think for the time being he will likely be left but could become more of a puppet figurehead while perhaps the military take more control but we will have to see.
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Update from the general staff of the AFU this morning.
The AFU are making advances in the directions of Melitopol,Bakhmut and Berdyansk.
Despite heavy resistance from the orcs the AFU is inflicting tremendous damage and losses on them and their equipment in those areas.
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http://www.obozrevatel.com/ukr/politics-news/zelenskij-zaklikav-deputativ-legalizuvati-v-ukraini-medichnij-kanabis.htm
so chill...
ukraine is now gonna be 420 friendly thanks to Zelenky's decree
AND...
English is to receive special language status in Ukraine....
dawg...
what more do you incels need?
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post war - hope for incels?
so Ukraine, post-war is gonna have a MASSIVE wave of euphoria
and in addition, Ukraine is gonna be 420 friendly
AND English is gonna have 'protected' status
it's gonna be the ultimate wave for you incels to catch and ride in on
IF you're smart enuff!
but face it, most of ya'll are incels cuz ya ain't REALLY all that smart, ok? let's be honest here...
you smart incels can buy some land in some Ukrainian village
get a local girlfriend(s)
and grow high-end weed without the cops stealin half, cuz it's legal now!
and you can live like a freakin king
and I KNOW, it grows really, really well in Ukraine!!!
you could overgrow the russians
oh, and for the above to happen
Ukraine has to win of course
postscript
the results produced from audits of wagner and russian MOD will mean a lot of russian window cancer deaths in the near future
stay away from tall buildings and falling russians
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post war - hope for incels?
so Ukraine, post-war is gonna have a MASSIVE wave of euphoria
and in addition, Ukraine is gonna be 420 friendly
AND English is gonna have 'protected' status
it's gonna be the ultimate wave for you incels to catch and ride in on
IF you're smart enuff!
but face it, most of ya'll are incels cuz ya ain't REALLY all that smart, ok? let's be honest here...
you smart incels can buy some land in some Ukrainian village
get a local girlfriend(s)
and grow high-end weed without the cops stealin half, cuz it's legal now!
and you can live like a freakin king
and I KNOW, it grows really, really well in Ukraine!!!
you could overgrow the russians
oh, and for the above to happen
Ukraine has to win of course
postscript
the results produced from audits of wagner and russian MOD will mean a lot of russian window cancer deaths in the near future
stay away from tall buildings and falling russians
Assuming you're not celebrating Hitler's birthday that sounds like a mission for you Krim. Might not be Moscow but likely better than the Baltics ;D
My guess is that to do best at it big time would require someone capable of getting the top nobs on side to get the big lucrative medical cannabis contracts if it's done that way. Otherwise too much risk of being still being deemed as operating illegally and the same old bribes if caught being needed I would guess.
Moving in now and getting set up in readiness in Ukraine so you've got your foot in the door ready for when they legalise medical cannabis would be the thing to do I would have thought to get in and get big early to avoid others getting in first and crowding out the market. That of course would be gambling on Ukraine winning. My guess that somewhere out in the country towards the east of the country would be the way to go.
That's a cracking painting Krim, is it one of yours?
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image not mine, I don't feel so inspired
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News article today about the situation of the current Ukrainian Counter-offensive:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66075786
Doesn't feel great to estimate those that have been killed etc as a result of joining Armies but my guess is Ukraine may have lost around 200,000 troops by now and Russia around 300,000. Somewhere near towards those figures for both sides would be my guess.
I think both sides will be calling up more men as they are needed on a continuous rolling basis. I personally wouldn't blame anyone for doing a runner on either side as the future doesn't look great on either side on that one. My guess is that there probably aren't that many soldiers who were around at the start of the war still around now aside from those casualties that were maimed and similar.
Looks like Ukraine has recently changed its conscription/mobilization law probably with the aim of replacing men lost at the front:
http://visitukraine.today/blog/1974/conscription-age-cut-to-25-in-ukraine-what-will-change-and-how-will-it-affect-mobilisation
Here is a recent podcast I found from the BBC it details Ukrainian men fleeing serving in the Ukrainian Army by crossing the border to Romania:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0fstmlm
As stated of course the problem of desertion or draft dodging is worse on the Russian side but it is of course happening on both sides.
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http://twitter.com/i/status/1675826262118481921
Zelensky's Victory Dance!!!
what ever you do - don't show this video to Putin!!!!
cuz this is the dewd who's beating the whole Russian army
and if Russians see this, it'll drive them INSANE!!!
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Russian losses are 8-10 times higher than Ukrainians.The counter-offensive is going to plan-the Commander of the Ground Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Oleksandr Syrskyi in an interview with ABC.
He also stated that Ukraine has not yet used it's main forces.
Bakhmut will definitely be released.
Today,the main goal is to deplete the enemy's forces in order to create a breakthrough on the front.
Russians are targeting western equipment.They try to destroy as much equipment as possible.This is a priority for them.
So,the orcs killed so far comes to 231,700....so that would mean the Ukrainians killed would be between 23,170 - 28,960.
Confirmed orc officers killed in Ukraine ,based on publicly available data from Russia via funeral notices,obituaries and news sites,now stands at 2,445 as at 3/7/23.
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Russian losses are 8-10 times higher than Ukrainians.The counter-offensive is going to plan-the Commander of the Ground Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Oleksandr Syrskyi in an interview with ABC.
He also stated that Ukraine has not yet used it's main forces.
Bakhmut will definitely be released.
Today,the main goal is to deplete the enemy's forces in order to create a breakthrough on the front.
Russians are targeting western equipment.They try to destroy as much equipment as possible.This is a priority for them.
So,the orcs killed so far comes to 231,700....so that would mean the Ukrainians killed would be between 23,170 - 28,960.
Confirmed orc officers killed in Ukraine ,based on publicly available data from Russia via funeral notices,obituaries and news sites,now stands at 2,445 as at 3/7/23.
Where do you get these figures from CB?
It would mean that each Ukrainian soldier has on average killed 8 - 10 orcs each and in return few of them getting killed. I would find those statistics quite astonishing. In Bakhmut against Wagner that may have been nearer the case as they were just throwing them in there to push Ukrainian troops back. However, from news reports apparently many Ukrainians lost their lives in Bakhmut as they were in many cases forced to confront the Wagner horde.
Both sides have artillery and while the Ukrainian artillery can fire further the orc artillery tends to be more numerous.
Western tanks I think have helped the Counter-offensive a little bit but I think there was too much emphasis on gaining western tanks by the Ukrainians. In this war the Ukrainians had already shown that tanks are too vulnerable to anti tank stuff. Possibly Ukraine might get lucky and find a weakness in the Russian lines and exploit it. I just wonder though if Russia has packed out there lines with superior troop numbers that may make it too difficult to fully crack them this time.
Essentially Ukraine likely has until the end of Summer to try and crack their lines so by October they need to have achieved that or likely stalemate until Spring next year. So likely a good 12-15 weeks or so for Ukraine to try and do it. Off course the West has to keep them stocked up with ammo and weapons all the while. Do if they don't do it this year then questions may start being asked over our ability to keep funding all the weapons & ammo supply whilst propping up Ukraine's economy too.
I still think that the likelihood of Russia opening up a second front particularly towards Lviv from Belarus is high. I don't see the pint in Wagner still recruiting for troops in Russia to go to Belarus otherwise. So possibly a joint Belarus/Wagner operation there.
I'm not ruling out Ukraine winning this war but I don't think they are having an easy time of it nor not sustaining heavy casualties.
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the russians value territory more than people
the ukrainians value people over territory
Ukraine doesn't have air superiority so it has a MUCH different fighting strategy then the armies i've served in, (USA/Israel)
Ukraine is fighting a non-asymetric war of attrition
meaning, it's depleting Russia's fighting resources much MORE than what Russia is depleting of Ukraine's
what that EXACT ratio is would be debatable and almost impossible to know
but you can see the truth of who values what and see how Ukraine is conducting this war in a very calculated and deliberate manner vrs whatever the hell it is that Russian "leadership" is doing
under putin's leadership the russian military was pillaged by oligarchs like everything else in russia
and this hollowed out military was further eroded by declining levels of training and service
this is not a military with any high standards at all and is almost worthless in actual combat, and best suited for civilian crowd control
russian leadership puts no value on them, and considers them totally expendable like toy soldiers in a war game
otoh, Zelensky meets with widows and orphans and gives them hugs and medals of honor
you can read his face and feel the pain like he does
cometh the hour, cometh the man
zelensky is the heroic court jester who slays the evil little dwarf king
watching Zelenky's films or music/dance videos 5 years ago on TV, who would have EVER imagined that this is the guy who's gonna take on putin mano-et-mano????
reality is much weirder than any story you ever read, innit?
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the russians value territory more than people
the ukrainians value people over territory
Ukraine doesn't have air superiority so it has a MUCH different fighting strategy then the armies i've served in, (USA/Israel)
Ukraine is fighting a non-asymetric war of attrition
meaning, it's depleting Russia's fighting resources much MORE than what Russia is depleting of Ukraine's
what that EXACT ratio is would be debatable and almost impossible to know
but you can see the truth of who values what and see how Ukraine is conducting this war in a very calculated and deliberate manner vrs whatever the hell it is that Russian "leadership" is doing
under putin's leadership the russian military was pillaged by oligarchs like everything else in russia
and this hollowed out military was further eroded by declining levels of training and service
this is not a military with any high standards at all and is almost worthless in actual combat, and best suited for civilian crowd control
russian leadership puts no value on them, and considers them totally expendable like toy soldiers in a war game
otoh, Zelensky meets with widows and orphans and gives them hugs and medals of honor
you can read his face and feel the pain like he does
cometh the hour, cometh the man
zelensky is the heroic court jester who slays the evil little dwarf king
watching Zelenky's films or music/dance videos 5 years ago on TV, who would have EVER imagined that this is the guy who's gonna take on putin mano-et-mano????
reality is much weirder than any story you ever read, innit?
Great post. Well done krimster.
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accordin to the media
malchiki iz belogo poroshka
are already here in Babylon
first will be bolivian marchin powder THEN it'll be "somethin else"
the weakest link will be cut
the chain will no longer hold
putin needs to remove zelenksky and biden from the chess board - take 'em both completely outta the game
what grand master does he have to play by his side?
who can he trust to not phuque this up?
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Where do you get these figures from CB?
It would mean that each Ukrainian soldier has on average killed 8 - 10 orcs each and in return few of them getting killed. I would find those statistics quite astonishing. In Bakhmut against Wagner that may have been nearer the case as they were just throwing them in there to push Ukrainian troops back. However, from news reports apparently many Ukrainians lost their lives in Bakhmut as they were in many cases forced to confront the Wagner horde.
Both sides have artillery and while the Ukrainian artillery can fire further the orc artillery tends to be more numerous.
Western tanks I think have helped the Counter-offensive a little bit but I think there was too much emphasis on gaining western tanks by the Ukrainians. In this war the Ukrainians had already shown that tanks are too vulnerable to anti tank stuff. Possibly Ukraine might get lucky and find a weakness in the Russian lines and exploit it. I just wonder though if Russia has packed out there lines with superior troop numbers that may make it too difficult to fully crack them this time.
Essentially Ukraine likely has until the end of Summer to try and crack their lines so by October they need to have achieved that or likely stalemate until Spring next year. So likely a good 12-15 weeks or so for Ukraine to try and do it. Off course the West has to keep them stocked up with ammo and weapons all the while. Do if they don't do it this year then questions may start being asked over our ability to keep funding all the weapons & ammo supply whilst propping up Ukraine's economy too.
I still think that the likelihood of Russia opening up a second front particularly towards Lviv from Belarus is high. I don't see the pint in Wagner still recruiting for troops in Russia to go to Belarus otherwise. So possibly a joint Belarus/Wagner operation there.
I'm not ruling out Ukraine winning this war but I don't think they are having an easy time of it nor not sustaining heavy casualties.
As i said the 8-10 times higher death figures for the orcs came from the Commander of the AFU Ground Forces ,Oleksandr Syrskyi,in his interview with ABC.
The 231,700 death toll for the orcs comes from the Ukrainian MOD.
I worked out the Ukrainian deaths from being 8-10 times less than the orcs,as stated by the AFU Ground Forces Commander.
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the russians value territory more than people
the ukrainians value people over territory
Ukraine doesn't have air superiority so it has a MUCH different fighting strategy then the armies i've served in, (USA/Israel)
Ukraine is fighting a non-asymetric war of attrition
meaning, it's depleting Russia's fighting resources much MORE than what Russia is depleting of Ukraine's
what that EXACT ratio is would be debatable and almost impossible to know
but you can see the truth of who values what and see how Ukraine is conducting this war in a very calculated and deliberate manner vrs whatever the hell it is that Russian "leadership" is doing
under putin's leadership the russian military was pillaged by oligarchs like everything else in russia
and this hollowed out military was further eroded by declining levels of training and service
this is not a military with any high standards at all and is almost worthless in actual combat, and best suited for civilian crowd control
russian leadership puts no value on them, and considers them totally expendable like toy soldiers in a war game
otoh, Zelensky meets with widows and orphans and gives them hugs and medals of honor
you can read his face and feel the pain like he does
cometh the hour, cometh the man
zelensky is the heroic court jester who slays the evil little dwarf king
watching Zelenky's films or music/dance videos 5 years ago on TV, who would have EVER imagined that this is the guy who's gonna take on putin mano-et-mano????
reality is much weirder than any story you ever read, innit?
Yes,regarding Zelensky,he looked like he aged ten years before our eyes when he went to Bucha to see what the orcs had done to his people there.
I've also seen a couple of videos where he's visited petrol stations to and from his visits to the frontline,and it's conspicuous how his people react to him....all of them...troops and civilians...want photo ops with him....and they ALL want to give him a hug as it's clear he's suffering big-time.
He actually mentioned the last trip to the front in one of his evening addresses,thanking people for the very warm words and hugs.
I wonder how many of his Russian people want to give Putler a warm hug ?
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in the near future...
fleets of self-driving teslas will be packed with explosives
you lock the doors, then get your iphone and type in the destination address and click on the app's "GO" button
you can then track the progress of your car bomb on a map on your phone
fighting in the future is much easier than it is today
the Russo-Ukrainian war may be the last war fought with conventional weapons
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Wiki has through May 2023:
20,000 killed, 130,000 wounded[/t]24 February 2022 – 21 May 2023US estimate[72] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#cite_note-42K-76)[/size]
10,000–13,000 killed[/t]24 February – 1 December 2022Ukrainian government[73] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#cite_note-77)[/size]
Other articles have similar numbers.
http://babel.ua/en/news/91790-the-secretary-of-the-national-security-council-refuted-wp-s-data-about-hundreds-of-thousands-of-losses-in-the-ranks-of-the-armed-forces
"On December 2, 2022, the adviser of the Office of the President, Mykhailo Podolyak, noted that the losses of the Ukrainian army amount to 10,000-13,000 soldiers. This was the last official data announced by the authorities."
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As i said the 8-10 times higher death figures for the orcs came from the Commander of the AFU Ground Forces ,Oleksandr Syrskyi,in his interview with ABC.
The 231,700 death toll for the orcs comes from the Ukrainian MOD.
I worked out the Ukrainian deaths from being 8-10 times less than the orcs,as stated by the AFU Ground Forces Commander.
The 231,700 death toll for the orcs could be right. However I doubt the Ukrainian forces have had an 8 - 10 average kill ratio throughout from the beginning of the war. They might have achieved this ratio against Wagner & some parts of the Russian front briefly where conscripts were just thrown in to put pressure on the Ukrainian forces.
The Russians have undoubtedly lost many men and while not highly trained the Russians have always focused on larger numbers rather than skill at least from WWI & WWII days. So overwhelming and relentless numbers to overpower the enemy. I personally would wish Ukraine to win this one but I wouldn't count Russia as done yet. The longer this war goes on the stronger Russia may get at least militarily in terms of getting large troop numbers to the front and possibly improving troop performance as they pick up experience on the ground. Ukraine has skilled and effective units but it's heavily dependent on the west and at the moment no big break through like last year.
The biggest thing that stands out from Ukraine is that they haven't given any solid numbers for its own troop losses. If they were as small as you calculated from the 8 - 10 per 1 Ukrainian troop lost that would be absolutely something for the Ukrainians to shout from the rooftops about. Any loss is never nice but in war so few losses set against an enemy with huge troop losses would be a huge morale booster. Even a rough 'we've lost around 30,000 troops' would be an indescriminate figure to put out. Yet nothing like that, instead they are keeping deathly quiet on the troop loss figures. The only reason to do that is if the troop losses are quite high or very high.
A US General last year estimated that Ukraine had lost around 100,000 troops. I came up with that figure just before he announced it basically extrapolated from a weekly killed report from the front line troops and news articles from Ukrainian troops where it seemed their losses were about the same as the Russians at least where they were. So hence why I believe Ukrainians are losing many but don't wish to spoke their own people with the figures as let's face it that isn't going to help conscription efforts.
The large battles fought over Bakhmut and the now ongoing Counter-offensive leads me to believe Ukrainian troop losses are probably approaching 200,000 already if not already passed it. If it was approximately 100,000 after about 8-9 months of war then to my mind it stands to reason that as another 8-9 months has passed of intense action likely another 100,000 have fallen too.
Looks like Zelensky now is coming out that the Counter-offensive is struggling to make progress at the moment, the big wait over winter/spring being a mistake:
Exclusive: Zelensky says he wanted counteroffensive to start ‘much earlier’ to pre-empt Russian defenses.
http://www.cnn.com/2023/07/05/europe/zelensky-counteroffensive-ukraine-erin-burnett-interview-2-intl-cmd
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As JohnDearGreen has posted above ,the last official data released by the Ukrainian authorities regarding AFU losses was on 2/12/22.
The AFU losses at that time were announced as 10,000- 13,000.
Bearing that figure in mind,my guesstimate of 23,170-28,960 total AFU losses seven months later probably isn't far out.
On another note there was a train convoy of Russian T-55 Tanks travelling to the front through Russia shown on video yesterday,with even the local Russians saying "we're now having to use relics...we're farked ".
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As JohnDearGreen has posted above ,the last official data released by the Ukrainian authorities regarding AFU losses was on 2/12/22.
The AFU losses at that time were announced as 10,000- 13,000.
Bearing that figure in mind,my guesstimate of 23,170-28,960 total AFU losses seven months later probably isn't far out.
On another note there was a train convoy of Russian T-55 Tanks travelling to the front through Russia shown on video yesterday,with even the local Russians saying "we're now having to use relics...we're farked ".
I don't believe those released statistics on Ukrainian troop losses at all, we'll just have to disagree on that one but am pretty sure we'll find out at the end of this war whenever that will be. To my mind it stands to reason that if you're being charged by a large number of enemy firing guns you're likely to have significant losses also. Same as if you're assaulting enemy troop positions. The ones who don't make it don't get to upload their efforts to you tube.
Russia has apparently exhausted most of its stockpiles and now they are pretty much down to what they can produce a day, week, month, etc. Still they seem well entrenched in the Ukrainian territory the hold. Even if an attack is launch from Belarus we might well be in a stalemate war situation.
My guess is that Russia knows that the west supplying Ukraine with superior but more expensive weaponry and ammunition is costing it a lot. The war is costing Russia a lot also but the less sophisticated weaponry cheaper on cost. So potentially Russia looking to the west to become financially exhausted and fed up off funding a war that has become bogged down. Possibly with some nations unwilling or unable to continue supplying Ukraine due to financial difficulties. Unless Ukraine can secure a breakthrough soon this war may hang in the balance for some time to come.
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government expenditures on munitions causes the West's industrial output and GDP to rise - hardly a bad thing
Ukraine gets the ammo, Russia gets the casualties, and western arms companys get the money, jobs, and taxes - what doncha like about this deal?
meanwhile, USA also takes over oil and gas market in Europe, completely replacing Russia, which has seen its oil and gas revenue plunge 50% compared to a year ago!!
we're makin money like crazy off of Russia's war while they are losing it!!!
sit back and smoke a cigar...
cuz Prigozhin just returned to St Petes, and his weapons and money were returned
he is now under protection of the Tambovs
WTF is going on?
if wagner isn't goin to belarus, then where dem boys is goin? hmmmmmm....
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This is from Bloomberg.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0WVZzzXgAQkzZ2?format=jpg&name=small)
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government expenditures on munitions causes the West's industrial output and GDP to rise - hardly a bad thing
Ukraine gets the ammo, Russia gets the casualties, and western arms companys get the money, jobs, and taxes - what doncha like about this deal?
meanwhile, USA also takes over oil and gas market in Europe, completely replacing Russia, which has seen its oil and gas revenue plunge 50% compared to a year ago!!
we're makin money like crazy off of Russia's war while they are losing it!!!
sit back and smoke a cigar...
cuz Prigozhin just returned to St Petes, and his weapons and money were returned
he is now under protection of the Tambovs
WTF is going on?
if wagner isn't goin to belarus, then where dem boys is goin? hmmmmmm....
I doubt the extra tax money brought in matches western government expenditure, possibly the US gains more tax revenue from gains of sales of liquid gas etc in Europe. My guess is though after the cost of fighting COVID and western government spending on Ukraine many western countries must be hitting their debt ceiling. So how much longer can western government funding of this war last?
Remember US & UK pulled out of Afghanistan as apparently the money had run out. So how much longer can they really go on funding Ukraine?
I don't disagree with them funding Ukraine, I do approve of it but I'm just not sure how deep western governments pockets can go.
One thing I don't understand is how Prigozhin (assuming he flew alive) managed to fly to Moscow before flying to St. Pete's without being nabbed by Putler and his security forces/army, etc.
Apparently they now think Prigozhin flew back to Moscow on his plane before flying to Rostov (where he was staging the rebellion) assuming that he is still alive. I'm not sure why Putler would allow him to have such free reign of Russia after what he did.
If that is so and Prigozhin is still alive surely that could be dangerous for Putler in the future.
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The orcs are now trapped in Bakhmut.
"In Bakhmut ,our defenders have been keeping the entrances,exits and movement of the enemy through the city under fire control for several days.This became possible due to the fact that in the process of advancing ,our troops took control of the main commanding heights around Bakhmut."
Deputy Minister of Defence Hanna Maliar.
With the town ruined by the orcs,i guess the AFU can now use HIMARS and the captured Russian TOS-1A thermobaric rocket launcher on the trapped orcs to obliterate them.Hopefully there will be a lot of trapped orcs there >:D
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http://www.upday.com/uk/weekend-dawn-sturgess-death-what-do-we-know-about-the-novichok-poisoning-five-years-on
Dawn Sturgis was in the purges
and they sang her dirges
the war can be won with a few well placed bottles of novichok spray
place a small amount of cocaine first, to test security check - done
now the chanel novichok #5
putin is biden his time before he applies eau de morte to zelensky
tambovs + 'consultants' are gonna do it all, no fsb/gru/svr
it's why putin wasn't allowed to kill prigozhin - tambovs blocked it and said no, and told putin, "give him his money back while your'at it", and the kremlin did so immediately!!
ya see why moscva is afraid of tambovs, pretty much all the children of moscva oligarchs live outside russia for security from tambovs
russians owe me for keeping their kids safe
I may end up collecting something interesting for this service
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Stanislav Rzhitsky was assassinated during his morning run in Krasnodar.
Two shots in the back and two in the chest.
This is the charmer who was the second ranking Captain and Commander of the submarine Krasnodar..He shelled Ukraine with Kalibr missiles and was responsible for the missile attack on Vinnytsia on 14th July 2022 which left 25 civilians dead including 3 children.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0sccD4XsAAR3-F?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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a 'double-tap' from behind with one to the back of the head
is a 'signature' style mob hit
so either they're 'touches finger to nose'
or they're professionals who understood WHY this is the best technique to use for a street assassination
either way, contrast that with russian polonium and novichok debacles
so whover is behind this isn't from the kremlin
the odessa 'mob' has DEEP connections into Russia
russian/ukrainian society is based on 'networks' of people
ergo the odessa mob has a huge network INSIDE Russia
because of Pootin, odessa mob and SBU are druzya and brat now
and every time a drone blows up in odesa, somebody in russia is gonna die
an there ain't nothin tambovs can do about that
there are millions of ukrainians living in russia
and some are crypto-ukraine supporters
and they get recruited
hmmmm hmmmmmm
the ukrainian 'hits' inside russia have been 'master-class'
the only country that does it better is Israel's Mossad
there is no one on earth better trained than a mossad assassin in a 'special unit' which takes years of increasingly difficult levels of training
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Had to laugh at this:
'We're not Amazon’: Ben Wallace urges ‘gratitude’ from Ukraine as PM insists war-torn nation ‘incredibly grateful
http://www.lbc.co.uk/news/ben-wallace-ukraine-amazon-weapons-comments/
Just like dating a Ukrainian chick always wanting more stuff :ROFL:
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Yes,this sense of entitlement seems to be ingrained into a lot of Ukrainians...the land of prodating agency girls and dodgy dating agencies.
I brought this up previously on here when i was talking about the problems British families have been having with Ukrainian refugees living with them....no gratitude from the Ukrainians,just constant demands.
Sounds very familiar to what Ben Wallace has been saying ?
I've stopped my financial help directly to Ukrainians appealing for financial aid to buy stuff ,because they couldn't be bothered to even say a simple thank you to me...just one appeal after another.
They'd reach their targets for certain aid appeals and the same day it's "we have another urgent appeal to raise money for this ....let's go !".
It's like WTF.....what's happening to all the huge amounts of financial aid being sent to Ukraine by countries ?
Yes there's a war going on and they need help...but show some gratitude for the help you do get.
A couple of organizations outside of Ukraine,one based in the UK and one in Lithuania, who are running aid into Ukraine ,plus a Brit i know who's actually in Nikolaev delivering aid to the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine, i still support.They all supply regular photo and video updates of where the aid is going to and they all make the effort to say thanks for the help they're getting.
As for the whining from the Ukrainians about being accepted into NATO...firstly it obviously can't be done while there's a war going on in their country or we'll all be dragged into it via article 5,and secondly the blatant corruption going on there needs to be extinguished ...it's still rampant during the war with a female MP taking bribes ,a deputy stealing land in Odesa with fake documents,pro-Russian collaborators all over the place,others stealing fuel to sell whilst pretending it's for the AFU troops,a senior female tax official caught with suitcases full of stolen tax money,a gang of men in Kharkiv pretending they're armed police looking for pro-russian collaborators and ransacking people's homes to find evidence/ steal from them...this is all just this week !
How can we let a country infested with corrupt officials, crooks and thieves into NATO ?
Imagine these white Nigerians being trusted with NATO arms and info after the war has ended...they'll be selling it to the Russians.
The Brit i mentioned has just done an aid run into Kherson.The troops and police were very reluctant to let him in because they're having so many problems with local people phoning the AFU positions into the Russians,and they thought he might be another pro-Russian collaborator spying until they realized he was a Brit.
What a shithole of a country when so many crooks and traitors live there.
Clean your country up....then we can talk about you joining NATO.
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Ukraine is about as corrupt as Turkey and Albania, which are both NATO members. I don't think Ukraine expected immediate NATO ascension. I think they're looking for a path. I think the bigger issue would be Russian spies within Ukrainian delegations. However, Germany is also rife with Russian spies, and I suspect some Eastern European nations are as well, so that may be relatively neutral.
The corruption in Ukraine is a direct result of Soviet rule. Soviet systems encouraged corruption, lying and thievery. The Baltics avoided this because for the most part, they were very ruled from Moscow, with an iron fist. ALL the other former Soviet republics have similar levels of corruption.
I don't think Ukrainians are lacking in gratitude. But how often should one express this? Zelensky's job is to advocate for Ukraine, and he has done that exceedingly well. What's to be expected? Their soldiers are dying on the fronts, the West has stated they will help, and Ukraine asks for help so that the war can end sooner.
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Yes,for sure it's the Soviet influence that's led to Ukraine being so corrupt.
The Church of Russia,called Russian patriarchy in Ukraine ,can't do anything without approval from Moscow and has a tremendously negative influence in Ukraine too.
From a female resident of Kyiv.
"The Russian Church is a way for them to make money.control people.and even turn them against Europe,the US ,or even Ukraine.Russian priests like expensive stuff when the church should teach the opposite.Some of them are former KGB agents.
Many "religious " people couldn't even say they were Ukrainians.They called themselves Slavs.
Leave alone a huge amount of Russian propaganda about Novorosiya,Ukrainians and Russians being the same nation,anti-American propaganda and so on.Patriarch Krill said the same stupid things about mosquitoes and other things long before Russia started using the same statements to make people support the war.
Priests justify the war Russia started and also bless weapons and people to go to war."
There's a lot more about this religious organization ,but i've only posted the relevant part for a country who wants to join NATO.
This can't be allowed to be happening within a country that wants to join NATO,and the EU should be very careful about allowing Ukraine to become a member too as things stand.It's a breeding ground for terrorists.This church needs to be shut down as part of the required reforms in Ukraine and any Ukrainians/ethnic Russians who don't like it can move to Russia.
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Yes,this sense of entitlement seems to be ingrained into a lot of Ukrainians...the land of prodating agency girls and dodgy dating agencies.
I brought this up previously on here when i was talking about the problems British families have been having with Ukrainian refugees living with them....no gratitude from the Ukrainians,just constant demands.
Sounds very familiar to what Ben Wallace has been saying ?
I've stopped my financial help directly to Ukrainians appealing for financial aid to buy stuff ,because they couldn't be bothered to even say a simple thank you to me...just one appeal after another.
They'd reach their targets for certain aid appeals and the same day it's "we have another urgent appeal to raise money for this ....let's go !".
It's like WTF.....what's happening to all the huge amounts of financial aid being sent to Ukraine by countries ?
Yes there's a war going on and they need help...but show some gratitude for the help you do get.
A couple of organizations outside of Ukraine,one based in the UK and one in Lithuania, who are running aid into Ukraine ,plus a Brit i know who's actually in Nikolaev delivering aid to the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine, i still support.They all supply regular photo and video updates of where the aid is going to and they all make the effort to say thanks for the help they're getting.
As for the whining from the Ukrainians about being accepted into NATO...firstly it obviously can't be done while there's a war going on in their country or we'll all be dragged into it via article 5,and secondly the blatant corruption going on there needs to be extinguished ...it's still rampant during the war with a female MP taking bribes ,a deputy stealing land in Odesa with fake documents,pro-Russian collaborators all over the place,others stealing fuel to sell whilst pretending it's for the AFU troops,a senior female tax official caught with suitcases full of stolen tax money,a gang of men in Kharkiv pretending they're armed police looking for pro-russian collaborators and ransacking people's homes to find evidence/ steal from them...this is all just this week !
How can we let a country infested with corrupt officials, crooks and thieves into NATO ?
Imagine these white Nigerians being trusted with NATO arms and info after the war has ended...they'll be selling it to the Russians.
The Brit i mentioned has just done an aid run into Kherson.The troops and police were very reluctant to let him in because they're having so many problems with local people phoning the AFU positions into the Russians,and they thought he might be another pro-Russian collaborator spying until they realized he was a Brit.
What a shithole of a country when so many crooks and traitors live there.
Clean your country up....then we can talk about you joining NATO.
Yep like I said before it threatens to be Ukraine's undoing. I think it must be a mentality out there, Kherson girl had it. It's like if they find out a person is open or willing to give stuff it's like, 'can we have more, can we have more, can we have more, etc, etc...'. I personally now think it's best not to get down into that whole rabbit hole by giving stuff in the first place, not at least until you know the girl/person. Otherwise I think they probably regard you as a mug or a bit easy for it and they never let up. Then as you've found buggering off is the only option.
I personally think that the poor Ukrainian guys on the front line likely never see anything of the stuff that's been donated. Their other halves, family, organizations out there, etc probably sell it off and buy the stuff they want for themselves with the money. I think the Ukrainian mentality is just that way geared it's nothing personal just how many of them are. Once you learnt about it you can adjust for it by not getting roped in, in the first place I think. Being nice and giving out there is basically taken advantage off, I don't think they have a concept of what it is about they just see it as weakness or something similar. At the start of both COVID and the war in Ukraine and a fair way into it I basically went to ground online. Sure I gave the odd token sum to a couple of aid organisations but that was about it. I didn't bother messaging chicks online, I took my profile down as I just new I would be in for a pointless appeal for stuff from loads of chicks all expressing how desperate they were in need. That's one whole deal best avoided I thought so decided to go off line to avoid all that carry on by them.
I don't think Ben Wallace was really saying that Zelensky was ungrateful but more the lot underneath him probably moreso on the military side. I can imagine the poor bugger doing the 11 hour journey just then to be shoved with a list of stuff they expected just for demanding it and showing him no gratitude. Much like if he did an 11 hour journey to meet a Ukrainian girl for her just to demand stuff of him on a date lol.
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Saw this article just now:
http://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/07/14/russia-armed-belarus-to-the-teeth-s-400s-tor-m2s-su-35s-mi-35s/
It's about how Belarus is upgrading it's military. Also in combination with its new nuclear deterrent from Russia. My guess is that Belarus didn't get involved last year as it feared being invaded by either NATO or countries such as Poland or possibly Ukraine in a counter attack. That and it's military might have been seen as a little under par anyway.
Now that they have nukes on their soil Belarus are now able to join the party. My guess is that they won't until they are pretty much through with ungrading most of their military and helped out with training from Wagner, etc. Possibly also expanded the size of its military. I think we can see from this though that the groundwork is being laid for Belarus to join the fight at some point likely in the near future. With the nukes in place and some of its military already upgraded, etc I think we can see that it's probably not far off. It may not be this Summer or even Winter but possibly Spring or Summer next year. No telling though, even this Summer/Autumn may be possible in a matter of weeks or so if they want to try and crack Ukraine. My best guess is though that they will wait until the majority of their army is upgraded and trained up etc to make best use of it.
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Yes, I was always quite irritated at lack of Thanks from both men and women in FSU.
However last week I did get this message from an acquaintance in Kyiv.
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Happy Independence Day to you XXX and all your family!
Thank you so much the USA for all its help to Ukraine!
Best wishes,
XXX and our big family.
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Yes, I was always quite irritated at lack of Thanks from both men and women in FSU.
I concur. I think it is a cultural issue.
In the Western world, we have the concept of a "debt of gratitude." If you are kind or generous to someone, (especially if you are getting nothing in return) we expect that they are obligated to express their thanks or try to reciprocate in some way.
In Ukraine (and maybe the FSU) I get the impression they believe that if you are kind, they owe you nothing. (which often leads to men being taken advantage of, and feeling lead on.) If they express their thanks, that is when they become obligated to you.
Women have also explained a fear of being given a gift, and then after they accept the gift, the giver will make demands of them. (Perhaps analogous to a man taking a lady to dinner, and then expecting sex afterwards.) I have sent aid packages to a lady in Ukraine. Dried pasta, coffee, bath sponges, water purification tablets...humanitarian stuff like that. I had complained that she wouldn't even say thank you when she received the packages. That is when she explained that she was worried about what I would demand from her. (I've met her and spent time with her. I'm not a complete stranger.) Another time, I asked her what she wanted for her birthday. She finally said that she knew I was going to get her something...so if I was going to give something, to make it a sleeping bag, and she showed me a couple examples of what she wanted. I couldn't decide which one to get, so I bought both at WalMart and sent them to her. She was very angry when she opened the box. Why did I send 2? She finally realized that she could share one with another friend who needed one. But I have noticed that her initial reaction to unexpected gifts is usually defensive and suspicious. (I'm not sure if this is cultural or individual.)
She will now say something like, "I received the package. Thanks." That is about the extent of her expression of gratitude, but it's a start.
The lady also once told me that in Ukraine, if a man gives a girl money, he can ask for everything. (She explained that a man could give a girl gifts of flowers or candy, but never money.) I don't know if she meant that if a man offered a lady money for her expenses, if she accepted then she must do whatever he demanded...or if a lady had to request the money from a man before she was obligated to do whatever he asked.
I haven't quite figured out what triggers the debt of gratitude in Ukrainian culture. In Western culture, simply receiving/accepting a gift of kindness that we don't deserve triggers the debt of gratitude. If I do you a favor, then you owe me a favor. (It can be as simple as holding the door for a lady and smiling at her. If she doesn't smile back and say thank you, we think she is rude.) I haven't figured out what triggers the debt of gratitude in Ukraine, or if they even understand that concept.
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ukrainians are like turtles livin in their shell
not much gets through
the social graces do not flourish there
so don't EVER expect anythin like a display of 'gratitude' over your meager 'gifts'
cuz they know what they are REALLY, even if you don't...
it's called "quid pro quo"
you pay her a quid, and she gives ya some of her quo
you give little, you get little
since you don't seem to get it, please allow me to explain
they aren't GIFTS
they're payments for 'services rendered'
she's an on-line version of a japanese B-girl hustling customers pretending she 'likes' them, all part of the job
but you think you're in a 'relationship'
i don't know whether to laugh or cry (it's both funny and sad)
you're like a guy who walks into a strip bar, falls in love with the first stripper he sees and wants to date and marry her
WTF?
the pooty tang situation must be really, really bad at Hawg Hollar Estates to lead to such a development
all of life, is but an illusion anyway
don't feel bad about misperceiving your 'romance'
horrosho...
next question
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ukrainians are like turtles livin in their shell
not much gets through
the social graces do not flourish there
so don't EVER expect anythin like a display of 'gratitude' over your meager 'gifts'
cuz they know what they are REALLY, even if you don't...
it's called "quid pro quo"
you pay her a quid, and she gives ya some of her quo
you give little, you get little
since you don't seem to get it, please allow me to explain
they aren't GIFTS
they're payments for 'services rendered'
she's an on-line version of a japanese B-girl hustling customers pretending she 'likes' them, all part of the job
but you think you're in a 'relationship'
i don't know whether to laugh or cry (it's both funny and sad)
you're like a guy who walks into a strip bar, falls in love with the first stripper he sees and wants to date and marry her
WTF?
the pooty tang situation must be really, really bad at Hawg Hollar Estates to lead to such a development
all of life, is but an illusion anyway
don't feel bad about misperceiving your 'romance'
horrosho...
next question
I get it, so if a guy abroad whether he has met the girl or not is sending her stuff then as far as she is concerned it's sent to render services. Those services may just be to keep chatting to a lonely guy possibly suggestive of love or send him some saucy photos, videos of her and stuff. So not necessarily any real relationship there just a punter if you like in a way.
When the guy is with the girl of course gifts can be given or asked for in return for sex. So not as direct as a prostitute asking money for sex but a 'you get what you want I get what I want' idea at some point kind of thing. So as has been said often the guy shouldn't be expectant of sex on giving a gift since the girl did not ask for one so she may not give it or perhaps refuse the gift. I'm guessing the customary gift you give a girl on meeting and she gives you back one is to cancel your gift out as a customary friendship gesture. Otherwise if she gave nothing back she would feel potential imposition to return the favour. Hence why some FSW don't like it when a guy gives a gift as above as they feel under an imposition to return the favour even if the guy sent it to be nice or as a kind gesture. The girl may of course not give sex even if it's expectant by the guy but she often doesn't feel right not doing so.
So aside from a customary exchange of gifts in a meet with a FSW that you may have just been messaging online for a WOVO. Then if you wish to pursue a long term relationship then the best thing to do is to just go out on dates. The guy not giving any gifts just paying for the cost of the dates with the girl (entertainment, eating out, etc) and her agreeing to further dates, and sex just coming by way of her attraction for you or perhaps just as the relationship moves along towards engagement proposal, marriage, etc.
The dinner date up front then perhaps more so on a WMVM is more likely to yield sex as you're not necessarily dating but a kind of loose informal unspoken understanding that you are paying for dinner (hopefully not in McDonald's) and she may return the favour (gift of a nice dinner) by way of sex afterwards.
So I'm guessing the surest way of a progressing to a long term relationship is by not gift giving so you know the basis isn't quid pro quo. If she has sex with you without any gift giving just dates then she likes you a lot. However, my guess is that even the quid pro quo might lead to a long term relationship, marriage etc if she becomes reliant on your gifts, money you send and she sees you as a good prospect to get with maybe.
Am I right in all of this?
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Back on track with the title of this thread . :)
Regarding the AFU counter-offensive,and the total liberated area in the south is now 179.5 square km.
I'm not sure where these liberated areas of the south are coming from because i thought the AFU had liberated all the southern areas on the west bank of the Dnipro river when they liberated the city of Kherson. ?
Are these newly liberated areas on the east bank of the Dnipro river..toward Melitopol and Berdyansk ,or around the Zaporizhzhia area.?
Tougher going in the east,with the total area now liberated standing at 31 square km.
These figures come from Deputy Minister of Defence of Ukraine Hanna Maliar.
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kerch bridge hit yet again!!!
the outgoing lane is GONE
there's a miles long backup of cars trying to flee
at the same time drones attacked sevastopol
crunching numbers in my spreadsheet
if ukraine doesn't make better progress on their offensive in the next 90 days
it'll run out of batterys before it can cut-off crimea
if this happens it means that by the end of the year, Putin and his army of Putin 'doubles' (who all sit at a big table and plot together) will change their focus to the upcoming elections
putin is much better at political engineering than he is at military planning (2016 election interference was GENUIS)
it's the pinacle of asymetrical warfare
use your enemy's own internal weaknesses to destroy them
I predict prominant deaths next year of sr political figures that alter the elections
only question is what poison will they use
yes, Trench you have understood....
good lad!
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yes, Trench you have understood....
good lad!
Great to have finally cracked it! :cheesy: After all these years.
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go have a pint!!!
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Back on track with the title of this thread . :)
Regarding the AFU counter-offensive,and the total liberated area in the south is now 179.5 square km.
I'm not sure where these liberated areas of the south are coming from because i thought the AFU had liberated all the southern areas on the west bank of the Dnipro river when they liberated the city of Kherson. ?
Are these newly liberated areas on the east bank of the Dnipro river..toward Melitopol and Berdyansk ,or around the Zaporizhzhia area.?
Tougher going in the east,with the total area now liberated standing at 31 square km.
These figures come from Deputy Minister of Defence of Ukraine Hanna Maliar.
From a map I saw a day or so ago most of the retaken areas were either south towards Melitopol or east towards Donetsk. I don't think there was any east of Kherson (the river there) looks like blowing the dam put pay to any advancement there just one big swamp.
So yeah the areas on the map signified as retaken weren't huge in terms of in comparison to the land the Russians still hold. They seem closest to Donetsk but even that looks like a bit of ground to cover before being in contention for it. That would be a big win for Ukraine as it's kind of a rebel stronghold. The rest of the wins towards Melitopol looked small gains in comparison to what they would need to get up to those cities but theoretically it could add up over the days and weeks if they keep advancing. Main thing is at the moment the gains though they sound a fair bit aren't really all that much when you see it illustrated on a map. Mostly the AFU seems to have retaken farmland, villages and chicken coops. So some chickens will now end up chicken kyiv's the rest will end up chicken kiev's ;D
Looks like also Putler isn't allowing out any grain shipments this year either probably due to Turkey etc not keeping to agreements it had with Russia (azov battalion, etc). So guess Ukraine will have to transport whatever it can through EU countries instead.
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go have a pint!!!
In progress :D
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Tips for Russians evacuating Crimea,
@Gerashchenko_en
Russian tourist chats are full of panicked Russians who did not get the vacation they desired. I've translated some of their posts below.
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"Important information for those who are going to get out of Crimea by land route. The most important thing is to stock up on the necessary amount of water. Local "entrepreneurs" decided to take advantage of this situation and in order to enrich themselves increased the price by 8-10 times!
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Being on the territory of Crimea download offline maps, on the territory of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk regions, you can use mobile communication only if you have a SIM-card Phoenix, but there is an option to buy it right in the queue in front of the checkpoint, there they sell them for 2000 rubles.
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The situation with toilets is also miserable, free toilets at petrol stations have been closed, they justify themselves by saying that the influx of people is too large, you can make an agreement for 500 roubles, for children, pregnant women, disabled people and participants of the SMO the price is 400 roubles".
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"The first border has been passed. Customs. We fuelled up at the last Lukoil petrol station, but there are no toilets there. There are big traffic jams in the opposite direction, towards Rostov. Documents and passports and child's birth certificate were checked at the checkpoint. At the customs there is a toilet and a lot of people on foot with their bags, their bags are checked there like at the airport. For those with cars, only the documents."
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"Why didn't they say they guarantee safety on the land road to Crimea, if they can't protect the Crimean bridge, and it's a 50/50 ride there?"
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"Yes, Megaphone [cellphone service provider] is completely dead, it doesn't show anything."
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"Just yesterday I was thinking what a moron one should be to go on holiday to Crimea now.Well, now the holiday will definitely be remembered when they go home through the front.They are disrupting the logistics of our military with traffic jams, stupid faggots."
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"One thing that annoys me is that after the first time, the competent authorities swore that ordinary people have nothing to fear, that now combat dolphins, medusas, shrimps and plankton guard the bridge 50 hours a day. F**k, how did that happen? !!!!!! Did they screw up again? !!!!!!!!"
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"Are there gas stations along the road in the new territories?" SureBandits, too, not just gas stations".
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damn...
ukraine's offensive ain't gonna succeed (completely cut-off crimea)
and ukraine is gonna run outta ammo
proving that in the upcoming war with china with conventional weapons, we could't fight on the ground for more than a couple of months without the same happening
china can out produce us by 10-to-1 in military hardware
BUT...
depends on sea transport for all raw materials for this military industrial complex
diplomats and submarines will put an end to that and the military-industrial complex
a war with china ain't gonna be a land war
it's gonna be a naval and diplomatic and cyber attack war
but if that don't resolve things
then yeah, it might go to EMP weapons
can you say "Farraday Shield"? I even have one on my lawnmower, and it's the push kind, that's how many Farraday Shields I have, my Farraday Shields even have shields
and i'm thinkin about puttin shields on them to
but you think the drone makers in odesa ever think about that?
apparently not...WTF....
Ukraine is going through 1,000 drones per day
average life span of a drone is less than 2 missions
the fields of ukraine are littered with drone debris
Julie Andrews is in fatigues and singin, "the hills are alive...with the sound of drones fly-ing"
can you imagine choreographing a musical about the Russo-Ukrainian war
you gotta put the 1812 overture in there somewhere
but when and by whom will the moment of triumph be revealed?
so far the play has kept that detail well hidden
cuz to me it looks like EVERYBODY is losing
so what does game theory say about zero sum games where both partys lose
in terms of achieving an optimal outcome
hint: chapter 7 of "Theory of Games and Economic Behavior" by J. Von Neuman
the goal is to force Russia to negotiate due to losses and denied of any hope of achieving victory
which means Ukraine IS gonna have to give up "something"
but this process won't start until late winter this year...
putin would like to have a deal by March 1, at the latest
the "March Surprize"
and if RasPootin can't pull this off
then his very last hope is to put a republican in the white house in november
how ya think he's gonna pull that off?
update:
since midnight only one lane is open on the kerch bridge
they alternate traffic directions
no heavy vehicles allowed
cars, vans, no 18 wheelers
all heavy traffic has to come by rail now
rail line was slightly damaged by the blast
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Recent news article highlighting how Ukraine conflict's usage as a testing ground for the West's military equipment:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66229336
Over the past few decades little chance to test our gear against a enemy that could get anywhere near us on a technology level. A lot of Russia's stuff is old Soviet stuff but some of our stuff was better technology quality that was just a bit newer or better.
So a lot of our Challenger 2 tanks never saw stuff that might take it out as they were impervious to rpg's. Seems to be doing ok in Ukraine as no bad stories so far. The French tanks by comparison Ukraine no longer wants as they are too light on the armour and easily destroyed making tank crews unhappy about manning them.
So what we learn in Ukraine will or should shsoecoyr forces going forward.
Already it's looking like tanks are out and ground troops with hand held anti tank gear, etc are in. Artillery looks to be back in favour since the first time since WWII even though it feels old Skool. So it's really just going with what works and relegating what doesn't as well as improving on design and training an army around the new way of working as well as countering the enemy.
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http://youtu.be/AdtLxlttrHg
in reality, Openheimer was more like Fred Rogers from Mr Roger's Neighborhood than Cillian Murphy (who is an Oirisch 'bad-ass')
watch the above video and then tell me how the ukrainian war is gonna end, horrosho
decisions that changed world history are always based on reducing reality to some simple calculation
if you know WHAT the calculation is - then you know the answer, and that leads you to know what decision is gonna be made
Rasputin is grappling with the same decision that Truman made with regard to the Atomic Bomb
a cost-benefit analysis
the collapse of the CCCP which began in 1991, isn't complete, until russia deteonates a new clear bomb in ukraine next year
then chechens and tatars will be runnin 'round the place with Taiga Tundra thumpers
ya'll gonna need 'my people' to deal with this
and I don't know if we're interested in 'your problems' unless there's somethin in it for us...
ain't no volunteers in my crew
we ain't yur Wagner Gopniks
Part Dva
Yet another mysterious death of a top-manager in Russia:
Anton Cherepennikov, owner of Russian IKS Holding, died. He was 40 years old. The preliminary cause of death, according to official sources, was a heart attack.
Cherepennikov's IKS Holding is the largest company in Russia in the area of informational security and operative-investigative systems (more commonly known as "wiretapping").
His company has been serving Russian law enforcement structures and controlled by them for a long time. It executed a lot of measures connected to "Yarovaya law" - requiring Internet and telephone companies to disclose private communications and data of their users. Cherepennikov took part in developing the face ID system in Moscow.
he be dead now holmes, like a WHOLE BUNCH of other ludie
which is why EVERYBODY'S chillin over here now
slovo te mamichka
but his death marks a new improvement in technique
overcoming the polonium and novichok fails
GRU gettin it's groove back with Kamera in Moscva
and ya'll know why
pootin has had purge after purge
vomiting top fsb and military officials
but his health isn't getting any better
soon, the medication of last resort will be used
radiation therapy
russki stariks just don't understand novichok chemotherapy
so they're against it, thought it worked better for 'special ops' than in warfare, even tried it covertly in syria
and since GRU phuqued it up in the UK, they don't even like it for that anymore
ya think any of them are gonna take the trouble to pour over the casualty statistics of WWI gas shells vrs explosive ones
and even primitive phosgene made artillery 10X more effective, novichok would be 1,000 times that
a binary novichok shell only gets its binary ingredients mixed when the 152mm artillery shell is spinnin
can be safely stored and handled by absolute dumb phuques fallin down drunk on home made vodka
nyet - they prefer nukes, makes better images
russians always base their decision on qualatative and not quanatative reasoning
it's why I consider them dumb phuques and always ran circles around them
"strength in numbers" is not a head count, it's about 'the power of arithemetic'
and these pridorki can't add or multiply, they only know how to divide and subtract
so you can imagine trying to explain Bayesian Decision Theory to these durrichki (throws up hands and walks away)
exit - stage left
FINIS
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Latest figures from Hana Maliar.
192 square km's in the south, in the direction of Melitopol and Berdyansk, have now been liberated.
35 square km's in the east around Bakhmut have also been liberated.
The AFU counter offensive continues to live up to the title of this thread.
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At the front Ukraine is facing difficulty as I suggested it might several weeks ago as a result of waiting till late Spring/early Summer to start the offensive, the Russians are well dug in, huge multi layered mine fields, fortifications, etc and have gotten more cunning in the way it fights:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66306150
They are now luring Ukrainians into positions such as trenches and detonating radio controlled mines, nasty. One minute you're thinking great you're taking enemy positions then the next minute you're gone without a chance, real terrible for Ukrainian soldiers to face really.
So Ukrainian forces are trying to thrust towards the south, Melitopol, Mariupol, and east towards Donetsk. That was expected as the most strategic locations, but the Russians fully expected them to be coming and they're talking into this trap set by the Russians. Now if I were in charge of Ukrainian forces I would switch towards making the main thrust in the north, north of Donetsk and east of Kharkiv. The front is apparently a lot less mined there, far less fortifications. Sure it's the long way around but success likely easier, progress likely faster. Counterattack there and swing downwards towards Donetsk and follow on through. No guarantee of getting all the way down towards Mariupol, they might but main thing would be much land would be retaken which is better than very little of any significance. Best outcome they retake Mariupol and cut off Russian forces leaving them in a tenuous situation reliant on the Kerch bridge.
I think a lot of Ukraine's war woes at the moment is being predictable, on paper sound decisions but too well known about, expected. Ukraine has become too assured that western weapons & armaments will come good for them on the battlefield. They can do some good stuff but if the wrong strategy is used they'll struggle to overcome that just like the Russians struggled in the early part off their invasion by deploying the wrong strategy and hoping the force of their arms would overpower the Ukrainians whatever.
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The good news is that the scale of the orcs losses is becoming incalculable.
Just one recent example :
June 2 Chechen Akhmat 54th Brigade sent to Marinka.
July 10 Withdrawn and sent to Bakhmut as blocking troops.
July 17 Moved to the front to try and hold the crumbling defences.
July 27 Video appeal from 1st Battalion as they reveal out of 500 troops only 60 are still alive.
and there's more.
Russian sources are reporting the Russian 810th Naval infantry operating in the Orikhiv region has suffered heavy casualties,with death notices in July exceeding 100,based on an audit of publicly available info.
The confirmed total of orc officers killed in Ukraine since February 24th last year.based on publicly available data from Russia ,via funeral notices,obituaries and news sites,had risen to 2,571 by 26th July this year. >:D
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The good news is that the scale of the orcs losses is becoming incalculable.
Just one recent example :
June 2 Chechen Akhmat 54th Brigade sent to Marinka.
July 10 Withdrawn and sent to Bakhmut as blocking troops.
July 17 Moved to the front to try and hold the crumbling defences.
July 27 Video appeal from 1st Battalion as they reveal out of 500 troops only 60 are still alive.
and there's more.
Russian sources are reporting the Russian 810th Naval infantry operating in the Orikhiv region has suffered heavy casualties,with death notices in July exceeding 100,based on an audit of publicly available info.
The confirmed total of orc officers killed in Ukraine since February 24th last year.based on publicly available data from Russia ,via funeral notices,obituaries and news sites,had risen to 2,571 by 26th July this year. >:D
Problem is Ukraine is also apparently suffering heavy losses in its Counter-offensive attempts. No figures have come out as they tend to be kept pretty quiet. I found the video of those poor Ukrainian soldiers jumping into that trench and the Russians detonating the mines there really quite shocking when they showed it on the BBC News yesterday. And stuff like that is happening all the time now. I'm glad I'm not at the front there, you wouldn't know when the next moment may be your last.
I'm personally erring on Russia having the upper hand as things stand at the moment not so much on the battlefront that's pretty much even stevens at the moment but on the grander campaign scale of things. They've seen the Ukrainians coming and the Ukrainian are now close minded in their aims. While Russia has gone a step further beyond and are now helping Belarus beef up it's army for an inevitable attack from the north at some point. My guess is that this time they will look to take and vlist the border area to deprive Ukraine of ammunition and weapons. They will know that Ukraine had a tenuous ammunition supply that will quickly run out with the speed at which the use it.
Ukraine said yesterday that they had a breakthrough one front but little more than them retaking a village has so far come about. Unless they do so soon or something in Russia happens then I think they need a real strategy overhaul and reassess the situation. I still think attacking east of Kharkiv would be best and work their way down thereby getting behind the enemy line and rolling up the whole line that way. Failing to make progress will just put Ukraine mord at risk as they could end up fighting in two fronts with Belarus in the north and that could prove too much for them.
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I wouldn't be too shocked at Ukrainian troops being blasted by mines as they jump into liberated trenches....the Ukrainians have been doing similar to the Russians,so can't complain about the tactic...in fact they may have given the Russians the idea,
In Bakhmut the Ukrainians were remotely detonating buildings as Russians entered them months ago,
The Ukrainians will now know not to jump into liberated trenches now..they can just use grenade launchers/mortars and fire them into the trenches to set any mines off....problem solved.
There will be no attack from Belarus into Ukraine....the Ukrainians have prepared very well for it and the Wagner and Belarusian troops would be slaughtered.
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More good news....increasing numbers of Russian troops are now refusing to fight.
The AFU General Staff : The number of refusals to participate in combat operations has increased in the units of the Russian occupation forces.
"About 60 Russian servicemen from the 247th Air Assault Regiment of the 7th Air Assault Division of the Russian Armed Forces refused to perform combat missions near the village of Staromayorske,the Donetsk region " - the statement says.
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russians have lots of educational material for how to perform "de-mining"
read it, and you to can have the knowledge of an average Russian 6 yr old student
Russian SpazNutZ are secretly blowin wads of scarce USD$, tryin to buy any western MANPAD they can from the Ukrainian military (and THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME!)
next, they'll turn around and GIVE THEM AWAY Free-of-Charge to ISYS and Mexianan Cartels
who will target American Icons with thems
so Fox can blame it on Biden
and raise Trump's Poll Numbers
Russian Fairy Tales are all filled with stories of how the "wise king" is besieged by stronger enemies
and defeats them through "trickery"
maya bubba told em to me
Russians eat this up like it's a slice of salo and a shot of vodka
haha, shoulda seen it when I showed Russians how to make Bacon
They freakin love it
in crimea and Russia, my daughters were master butchers who were well taught by their Crimean Grandfather
which is good, cuz whenever I see a bunch of blood and organs, it triggers memories and I lose focus
if you grow your own meat, you also have to know how to butcher it
after spending all day on it and hours of clean-up, I totally see why people in the West prefer white cellophane packages of meat
you in the "Oktober Country" boys
you don't know how lucky you are malchiky
back in the USSR
color me disillusioned about life in the west
the land of the not-so-free and home of the not-so-brave
living in Russia was VERY simple!
there are only two rules - just TWO!!!
1. never criticize somone above you
2. pay to your clan what they're at least entitled to, if not more (plus gifts) - in other words - DO NOT BE SELFISH AND GREEDY!!
just do that, and you can pretty much do whatever you want
A FUN GAME in Moscow City Center
Wear a 3-piece suit and walk into 4Seasons at breakfast
walk right up to the continental buffet and get yourself a plate
then figure out a way to get a free lunch
and then dinner
it was almost as much fun as walking across the Israeli/Jordanian border and stealing a car when I was a teen
damn my girl friend was impressed and hell yes, we made out in the car
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There will be no attack from Belarus into Ukraine....the Ukrainians have prepared very well for it and the Wagner and Belarusian troops would be slaughtered.
Is that really any different to the Ukrainians attacking the fortified, dug in and mined Russian positions at present?
Situation will be much the same, Belarus will attack and just endure whatever there is. Like Russia there is only so much Ukraine can mine and fortify their positions. It's effective as we have seen from Russia doing so as opposed to them not. Belarus will just throw themselves at them as Ukrainians are now doing against Russians and take whatever slow progress there may be. For sure it's likely to be slow progress but even if they don't break through they will put Ukraine under greater pressure. Ukraine will end up using more ammunition, having to replace more soldiers, spend more and generally divert resources their armies then having to be split more evenly between two fronts.
That's all a potential headache for Ukraine as how long can they keep that up for? If the west get increasing costs for propping up the Ukrainian war effort then the strain will likely start to tell. I don't see Ukraine doing so well and lasting under such circumstances. That's why Ukraine need to make a break through this year ideally. If they can't do it in the next few days going as they are then counterattacking over the softer territory east of Kharkiv then down would be best for them I think. Go through the door rather than trying to go through the wall next to it by keep headbutting the wall in effect.
I don't think people necessarily see that the war is potentially turning against Ukraine even as they press their current Counter-offensive the way they are.
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living in Russia was VERY simple!
there are only two rules - just TWO!!!
1. never criticize somone above you
2. pay to your clan what they're at least entitled to, if not more (plus gifts) - in other words - DO NOT BE SELFISH AND GREEDY!!
Yes knowing when to keep mouth shut out there seems to be what is required. Fortunately though I am usually good enough at spotting when to do that. You lose nothing by keeping your mouth shut and not peeing off those in power as opening mouth tends to not have any positive effect anyway.
Is the clan system common in Russia? Makes me think of Scotland in Braveheart times all the different clans & kilts etc. I guess it's how the Oligarch almost feudal system came about again out there post USSR. As you've said about the Oligarch system like Putler, gifts have got to be keep being given or the Oligarchy get restless and that's not good news for the Oligarch at the top.
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russians have lots of educational material for how to perform "de-mining"
read it, and you to can have the knowledge of an average Russian 6 yr old student
It is good that the children are being trained to recognize, avoid, and report mines. What a sorry efffen world we live in.
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"Is the clan system common in Russia?"
oh yeah-h-h-h-h
especially at the top level of Russian society
no wealthy russian is an island unto himself
A russian Clan is more like the Japanese Keiretsu, than them tartan wearin, haggis eatin fellers up north
for lower levels of Russian society, it's kinda like America was 100 yrs ago
very tightly woven social networks
somebody knows a guy, who knows a guy, who sells his mamichka's radiskos, on the ulitsa behind you
and since you just happen to love those big ones, you take advantage of this info..
and you tell your druzya as well
if you can connect yourself to one of these big Russian social networks over there
your days of being without "pooty tang" would be over immediately
because, over there, , It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single western man in Russia, must be in want of a wife
and they will shop you around like a bag of radishes, until they find a "buyer" who will "owe them" for this discovery
but that...
that was all pre-war
now, they'll think you're some kinda Javelin salesman and act accordingl
especially after the Russian Ministry of Defense starts listing dead soldiers as "missing"
so they don't have to pay out the insurance money to the family, so it can instead be stolen by some well connected clan in Moscva
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Is that really any different to the Ukrainians attacking the fortified, dug in and mined Russian positions at present?
Situation will be much the same, Belarus will attack and just endure whatever there is. Like Russia there is only so much Ukraine can mine and fortify their positions. It's effective as we have seen from Russia doing so as opposed to them not. Belarus will just throw themselves at them as Ukrainians are now doing against Russians and take whatever slow progress there may be. For sure it's likely to be slow progress but even if they don't break through they will put Ukraine under greater pressure. Ukraine will end up using more ammunition, having to replace more soldiers, spend more and generally divert resources their armies then having to be split more evenly between two fronts.
That's all a potential headache for Ukraine as how long can they keep that up for? If the west get increasing costs for propping up the Ukrainian war effort then the strain will likely start to tell. I don't see Ukraine doing so well and lasting under such circumstances. That's why Ukraine need to make a break through this year ideally. If they can't do it in the next few days going as they are then counterattacking over the softer territory east of Kharkiv then down would be best for them I think. Go through the door rather than trying to go through the wall next to it by keep headbutting the wall in effect.
I don't think people necessarily see that the war is potentially turning against Ukraine even as they press their current Counter-offensive the way they are.
Well yeah there's a huge difference in that the orcs don't have HIMARS to hit AFU troops stuck in minefields with.
The orcs can't really hit AFU troops stuck in minefields because their artillery is outranged by AFU artillery and will be destroyed with precision counter-fire.
No such problem for the Ukrainians though....they can hit the Wagner and Belarusian troops stuck in minefields whilst they're eating cake and biscuits and drinking tea and coffee,..it'll be finished within three or four days.
It took Wagner troops nine months to take Bakhmut and they weren't left exposed out in the open as they will be at the Ukrainian border.
Imagine the carnage inflicted on 62k Belarusian and 5k Wagner troops stuck in minefields at the Ukrainian border,rockets raining down on them...it'll be like napalm attacks magnified twenty times over. >:D
Not even the Russian tv propagandists are contemplating the thought of Ukraine being invaded by Wagner troops via Belarus..even they're not that daft.
No doubt the AFU will be smiling at the thought and saying "bring it on "...Lukashenko will be left totally vulnerable to the Belarusian dissidents,and Putler won't be able to send enough troops in to save him because they're all busy dying in Ukraine.
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It is good that the children are being trained to recognize, avoid, and report mines. What a sorry efffen world we live in.
Russian schoolchildren from 11 years old up now have to learn how to load and use Kalashnikov's as part of their school curriculum too .
Putler is turning Russia into North Korea.
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I imagine the power point presentation was like:
da, we can shorten basic training by 4 weeks, one month, which saves about 25,000 rubles per recruit by simply training them as volunteer "students" provided by regional school budgets
all students, must now be enrolled in the mandatory class on "Ask Not What The Government Can Do for You - Instead ask what you can do for the govenment to keep your ass outta jail"
which, if you're Russian, you probably already know what the answer is...
ras, vas, tree
we're all just
prisoners of LOVE
with the Blue Sky ABOVE
drones flyin over the black sea
all fly gracefully high o-ver me
and...
huh? what??
awright...awright...mumble...
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Well yeah there's a huge difference in that the orcs don't have HIMARS to hit AFU troops stuck in minefields with.
The orcs can't really hit AFU troops stuck in minefields because their artillery is outranged by AFU artillery and will be destroyed with precision counter-fire.
No such problem for the Ukrainians though....they can hit the Wagner and Belarusian troops stuck in minefields whilst they're eating cake and biscuits and drinking tea and coffee,..it'll be finished within three or four days.
It took Wagner troops nine months to take Bakhmut and they weren't left exposed out in the open as they will be at the Ukrainian border.
Imagine the carnage inflicted on 62k Belarusian and 5k Wagner troops stuck in minefields at the Ukrainian border,rockets raining down on them...it'll be like napalm attacks magnified twenty times over. >:D
Not even the Russian tv propagandists are contemplating the thought of Ukraine being invaded by Wagner troops via Belarus..even they're not that daft.
No doubt the AFU will be smiling at the thought and saying "bring it on "...Lukashenko will be left totally vulnerable to the Belarusian dissidents,and Putler won't be able to send enough troops in to save him because they're all busy dying in Ukraine.
CB allow me to raise your intellectual quota ceiling here ;D
Why do you think Wagner are training Belarusian soldiers for?
To deal with dissidents? No that's just the cover story they can deal with dissidents well enough already with what they've got and have been for years. The Belarusian police and KGB are enough to deal with dissidents never mind the army. So they're training them for another reason and there's only one reason for training an army up better - you're either going to attack or you fear being attacked.
Putler has made claims about Russia wanting to attack Belarus. I don't think that's at all likely, Poland would be condemned by it's EU & NATO counterparts and risk being thrown out of either or both. Belarus would be an odd but of territory to tack onto Poland it would be like some awkward looking bit stuck on the side and Belarus has Belarusian rather than Polish people residing in it. In short it's too much of a headache and bother for Poland which they don't want nor need. Poland itself is of large enough territory for them not to see themselves as needing more nor are they that bothered about Lukashenko to go to war over with him.
So that leaves Belarus training up its military and fir one purpose only, to attack Ukraine. No way is Ukraine going to attack Belarus and give Russia the excuse to go full out against Ukraine with all its git, nukes included. So it can only be that Belarus is going to attack Ukraine. Remember too that it is getting a while load of new armaments from Russia to beef up it's military too plus is having nukes put on its soil. So why go to all that expense if it is not going to be used? My guess is also that Belarus will start recruiting more soldiers on the quiet also probably expanding their soldiers from 62k to 100k and possibly beyond.
Their attacks on the Ukrainian border will most likely reflect Ukraine's. Not all forces will be committed upfront to avoid the scenario you suggest. Instead small forces will move forward to clear the minefield slowly bit by bit. When they are destroyed more small groups will be sent forward and so on. Who knows maybe even dissidents fron the prisons will be told to walk into the minefield to set them off or face being shot in a human shield type of operation. It won't be fast progress but like Ukraine's current Counter-offensive they will keep gnawing away at it. For Belarus it's not a problem they will be using up Ukraine's ammunition and drawing it's forces from the eastern front so that alone is useful for Russia.
HIMARS won't be off a lot of use there either, Ukraine won't fire them into Belarus like it doesn't fire them into Russia as the terms of being supplied them. The missiles are too expensive usually to use on ground troops unless there is a real good reason. So Belarusian troop numbers sent forward will be too small for it. They may use artillery to hit Belarusian troops and they may destroy them but then they are using ammo and destroying it's minefield for them. Also even though Belarusian artillery has less range it's not so much difference that they couldn't manoeuvre some artillery into range to counterattack even if it later gets destroyed.
Remember a military victory by Belarus is not necessarily needed here. Causing Ukraine to further draw on its resources to answer the attack may be more than enough. If Russia can push the cost of the war up then for how long can Ukraine & the west sustain that cost? On ground troops alone Ukraine would have to recruit and sustain a larger army to successfully defend on two fronts over a prolonged period. My guess is that it will be quite a financial strain doing that.
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"Is the clan system common in Russia?"
oh yeah-h-h-h-h
especially at the top level of Russian society
no wealthy russian is an island unto himself
A russian Clan is more like the Japanese Keiretsu, than them tartan wearin, haggis eatin fellers up north
for lower levels of Russian society, it's kinda like America was 100 yrs ago
very tightly woven social networks
somebody knows a guy, who knows a guy, who sells his mamichka's radiskos, on the ulitsa behind you
and since you just happen to love those big ones, you take advantage of this info..
and you tell your druzya as well
if you can connect yourself to one of these big Russian social networks over there
your days of being without "pooty tang" would be over immediately
because, over there, , It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single western man in Russia, must be in want of a wife
and they will shop you around like a bag of radishes, until they find a "buyer" who will "owe them" for this discovery
but that...
that was all pre-war
now, they'll think you're some kinda Javelin salesman and act accordingl
especially after the Russian Ministry of Defense starts listing dead soldiers as "missing"
so they don't have to pay out the insurance money to the family, so it can instead be stolen by some well connected clan in Moscva
Ah, so a Russian clan is more like business associate groupings. Do such clans have names?
The info on the friends associate network is interesting. That's the sort of cultural stuff that is interesting to know about. Ask Boe about cultural stuff and it will be all the arts, literature, classical music, etc ;D
What's the best way to get into one of these friends networks? I mean beyond the obvious of getting a friend who is connected to one lol.
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Good article on the current state of play at the Ukrainian front I think:
http://www.cnn.com/2023/07/29/europe/ukraine-counteroffensive-south-push-intl/index.html
Looks like Russia isn't bothering rotating it's troops but instead mixing in new recruits so the experience is passed on rather than risk rotating to fresh new recruits who might break and run for it or be pushed back.
Ukraine looks like it's taking a cautious approach clearing the minefield rather than risking it's soldiers. If this was Wagner they would probably just order their cannon fodder prison troops in and clear the way by being blown up by the mines for a more speedy advance.
As the article stares Ukraine's approach has allowed Russia to assemble troops to counter attack in the north. Ukraine could have had an easy in there if they had decided to attack their fight. Countering the counter attack there is still a possibility though I think and may suit Ukraine better than its current offensive in the south and the east.
As the article shows the Ukrainians are only just getting past some of the minefield to Russia's heavily fortified positions so it's not likely to get any easier for them, possibly harder. However once they finish clearing enough mines that may allow the bulk of its forces to come forward, buy I think them waiting in reserve all this time had been a mistake when they could have been put to better use in the north, east of Kharkiv.
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Russian and Ukrainian clans are all "regional" top-down organizations
tied to a common CEO , it really is a conglomerate of "interests" under a common roof, or krisha
in Russia everything has to have a krisha, or it gets washed away sooner or later
you don't pay your krisha, one day you could lose everything, even your life, this ALMOST happened to me
I am now connected through marriage to the Solntsevskaya Bratva
named after the Solntsevo District in Moscow (a wealthy district)
it'd be like sayin you're in the "Beverly Hills Mob" in the USA or the Greenwich Village Mob
if you are what people refer to as "British" ya might be in the Kensington or Chelsea mob
if you were in the Essex mob, you would't even tell anyone about it over embaressment
and you Trench, you have no ties to any clan, no loyalty 'cept to thine own self
you're not really part of any community
as I remember the midlands, they had these big dirty lookin red and brown brick industrial wasteland cities (the old empty mills were a great place to play in and throw rocks at the other kids)
once I hit puberty, I noticed...
that there were a LOT of sexually promiscuous women out prowling the club areas after dark like they're cats in heat
they liked to travel in small groups
these were all lower middle class chicks lookin for an "escape" by getting drunk and laid
"hello ladies, enjoying the night air are we...???
"Greetings, I am a wealthy "country bumpkin" American Tourist, who is also a virgin, will I be safe in this area??
you don't say it, you ACT IT!!
like choppin steak and throwin it to a school of sharks
I used to operate through Russian clan proxies, I don't do anything there now..
but here in the USA, we are all connected
I provide child protective custody services for the clan and help them "transition" into being trans-Americans (the land of don't say Gay or Goy)
Russians in the clan all respect my skills and trust me more than they would trust ANY Russian
before the war, I only got LOVE, from the Russian people, they didn't really view me as entirely American
more like they would a Russian who went to live there, but returned to the rodina
russians wanna throw my ass in jail, why? because of all the crimes I committed?
NO, I always pay my krisha
no, because it's the only way I'd ever work for them again
and they are freakin desperate
a wounded bear is a VERY dangerous creature to stand next to
I recommend being as far away as poosible
North America seems Nice!
if you spoke posh received pronunciation well
you could get one of them Seville Row suits
fly to New York
cruise the singles bars
you'd get hits
Marry the girl, become a US citizen, triple your income over here...
you got a better plan, then let's hear it!
or wear a simple black suit if you can do John Lenon or Paul Mcartney in a Karaoke bar
I did Karaoke like 30 yr ago, and often got invited to tables of girls...
and I'd tag along with them for the night, and leave after breakfast
those were good times, let me tell ya
hardly any young people live like this today where I live, they're too self-absorbed with their Instagram profile
and their future in the "real world" just gets worse over time
your destiny isn't virtual
to make it real
requires real effort
not to even try just means you're either too dumb or too lazy to try
I give you the zen slap of enlightenment
smart people (I'm not sayin any of ya'll are IDIOTS, cuz I wouldn't want to hurt somebody's delicate fee-fees here)
will choose their spouses when they're young and not middle-aged!
why? because that's when they're at their PEAK Sexual Market Value
and as a result, they get TOP PRICE for what "they're sellin"
OK?
what you got?
and how much ya think that's worth...
but, I have not come to appraise Trench....
but to ferry him,
to the next level
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Russian and Ukrainian clans are all "regional" top-down organizations
tied to a common CEO , it really is a conglomerate of "interests" under a common roof, or krisha
in Russia everything has to have a krisha, or it gets washed away sooner or later
you don't pay your krisha, one day you could lose everything, even your life, this ALMOST happened to me
I am now connected through marriage to the Solntsevskaya Bratva
named after the Solntsevo District in Moscow (a wealthy district)
it'd be like sayin you're in the "Beverly Hills Mob" in the USA or the Greenwich Village Mob
if you are what people refer to as "British" ya might be in the Kensington or Chelsea mob
if you were in the Essex mob, you would't even tell anyone about it over embaressment
and you Trench, you have no ties to any clan, no loyalty 'cept to thine own self
you're not really part of any community
as I remember the midlands, they had these big dirty lookin red and brown brick industrial wasteland cities (the old empty mills were a great place to play in and throw rocks at the other kids)
once I hit puberty, I noticed...
that there were a LOT of sexually promiscuous women out prowling the club areas after dark like they're cats in heat
they liked to travel in small groups
these were all lower middle class chicks lookin for an "escape" by getting drunk and laid
"hello ladies, enjoying the night air are we...???
"Greetings, I am a wealthy "country bumpkin" American Tourist, who is also a virgin, will I be safe in this area??
you don't say it, you ACT IT!!
like choppin steak and throwin it to a school of sharks
I used to operate through Russian clan proxies, I don't do anything there now..
but here in the USA, we are all connected
I provide child protective custody services for the clan and help them "transition" into being trans-Americans (the land of don't say Gay or Goy)
Russians in the clan all respect my skills and trust me more than they would trust ANY Russian
before the war, I only got LOVE, from the Russian people, they didn't really view me as entirely American
more like they would a Russian who went to live there, but returned to the rodina
russians wanna throw my ass in jail, why? because of all the crimes I committed?
NO, I always pay my krisha
no, because it's the only way I'd ever work for them again
and they are freakin desperate
a wounded bear is a VERY dangerous creature to stand next to
I recommend being as far away as poosible
North America seems Nice!
if you spoke posh received pronunciation well
you could get one of them Seville Row suits
fly to New York
cruise the singles bars
you'd get hits
Marry the girl, become a US citizen, triple your income over here...
you got a better plan, then let's hear it!
or wear a simple black suit if you can do John Lenon or Paul Mcartney in a Karaoke bar
I did Karaoke like 30 yr ago, and often got invited to tables of girls...
and I'd tag along with them for the night, and leave after breakfast
those were good times, let me tell ya
hardly any young people live like this today where I live, they're too self-absorbed with their Instagram profile
and their future in the "real world" just gets worse over time
your destiny isn't virtual
to make it real
requires real effort
not to even try just means you're either too dumb or too lazy to try
I give you the zen slap of enlightenment
smart people (I'm not sayin any of ya'll are IDIOTS, cuz I wouldn't want to hurt somebody's delicate fee-fees here)
will choose their spouses when they're young and not middle-aged!
why? because that's when they're at their PEAK Sexual Market Value
and as a result, they get TOP PRICE for what "they're sellin"
OK?
what you got?
and how much ya think that's worth...
but, I have not come to appraise Trench....
but to ferry him,
to the next level
That's interesting stuff Krim, I always wondered how the Oligarchy system worked out there, I mean apart from the guy at the top.
Are you sure you're in the right brotherhood though? Looked up Solntsevo District on Google Maps and it seems a bit on the periphery of Moscow so perhaps not all that important?
For me though just direct me to the bratva with the hottest babes :P
I know you said in the past the ultimate choice was your daughters but was there any other options on the table? Other bratva's of interest?
How about Roman Abramovich what bratva does he head up?
Well for me the American idea isn't a bad one in theory. I've always loved the American cheerleader girl culture :D My family are kind of over here though but it's a thought to bear in mind. Would have to watch with getting the right American girl as most western women you've kind of got to be careful off.
Interesting one with the age thing, in theory it does but then may depend on the individual. Technology is changing stuff too, when I was in my teens, twenties & thirties I wore glasses, now I don't at all. Some girls have a real beef over guys who wear glasses like they may do over shirt guys or bald guys. Girls now will be able to see that I don't bald, etc. Plus over innovations that can tip the balance that weren't around when I was younger, filler for example. Sure too much filler, a bad job isn't that great but it can be better than the old plastic surgery stuff that used to look pretty bad. I've not got any of that done yet as though I don't look real young I don't think I look too old for my age.
Once I've finished this house I should hopefully be able to work on myself a bit more as well as get out there. I think you're right though too many youngsters missing out on living their life in the real world by wasting it on the online world.
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moscow has many other clans, not just that one, only a couple of big ones, and more smaller
Abramovich is in a clan, really, I had no idea, and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT
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CB allow me to raise your intellectual quota ceiling here ;D
Why do you think Wagner are training Belarusian soldiers for?
To deal with dissidents? No that's just the cover story they can deal with dissidents well enough already with what they've got and have been for years. The Belarusian police and KGB are enough to deal with dissidents never mind the army. So they're training them for another reason and there's only one reason for training an army up better - you're either going to attack or you fear being attacked.
Putler has made claims about Russia wanting to attack Belarus. I don't think that's at all likely, Poland would be condemned by it's EU & NATO counterparts and risk being thrown out of either or both. Belarus would be an odd but of territory to tack onto Poland it would be like some awkward looking bit stuck on the side and Belarus has Belarusian rather than Polish people residing in it. In short it's too much of a headache and bother for Poland which they don't want nor need. Poland itself is of large enough territory for them not to see themselves as needing more nor are they that bothered about Lukashenko to go to war over with him.
So that leaves Belarus training up its military and fir one purpose only, to attack Ukraine. No way is Ukraine going to attack Belarus and give Russia the excuse to go full out against Ukraine with all its git, nukes included. So it can only be that Belarus is going to attack Ukraine. Remember too that it is getting a while load of new armaments from Russia to beef up it's military too plus is having nukes put on its soil. So why go to all that expense if it is not going to be used? My guess is also that Belarus will start recruiting more soldiers on the quiet also probably expanding their soldiers from 62k to 100k and possibly beyond.
Their attacks on the Ukrainian border will most likely reflect Ukraine's. Not all forces will be committed upfront to avoid the scenario you suggest. Instead small forces will move forward to clear the minefield slowly bit by bit. When they are destroyed more small groups will be sent forward and so on. Who knows maybe even dissidents fron the prisons will be told to walk into the minefield to set them off or face being shot in a human shield type of operation. It won't be fast progress but like Ukraine's current Counter-offensive they will keep gnawing away at it. For Belarus it's not a problem they will be using up Ukraine's ammunition and drawing it's forces from the eastern front so that alone is useful for Russia.
HIMARS won't be off a lot of use there either, Ukraine won't fire them into Belarus like it doesn't fire them into Russia as the terms of being supplied them. The missiles are too expensive usually to use on ground troops unless there is a real good reason. So Belarusian troop numbers sent forward will be too small for it. They may use artillery to hit Belarusian troops and they may destroy them but then they are using ammo and destroying it's minefield for them. Also even though Belarusian artillery has less range it's not so much difference that they couldn't manoeuvre some artillery into range to counterattack even if it later gets destroyed.
Remember a military victory by Belarus is not necessarily needed here. Causing Ukraine to further draw on its resources to answer the attack may be more than enough. If Russia can push the cost of the war up then for how long can Ukraine & the west sustain that cost? On ground troops alone Ukraine would have to recruit and sustain a larger army to successfully defend on two fronts over a prolonged period. My guess is that it will be quite a financial strain doing that.
Trench..let me raise your awareness . :)
Why do you think the UK has some of the best-trained forces in the world ?
Who are we intending to attack or who are we afraid of invading us ?
Likewise the USA.
The reality is the Belarusian army is shambolic....poorly trained and low in morale and motivation.They even start crying when the Ukrainian border guards make threatening gestures at them.
If Lukashenko believes the Putler BS then he will be nervous about NATO forces invading Belarus,and of course his army now has a nuclear arsenal to protect.
Why do you think this training started directly after Putler shipped nuclear missiles to Belarus ? Think about it..
I also previously posted on here about the Suwalki Gap....which Wagner is far more likely to go for than your fantasies about Belarusian troops invading Ukraine,and would be another reason for Wagner being in Poland.
Well guess what ?
The Poles are now going to double the size of their army to around 300 thousand to strengthen their borders they claim.
Yesterday the Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki says that more than 100 "Wagnerians" has gone toward the Suwalki Gap connecting Poland with the Baltic States.
According to him they will be disguised as Belarusian border guards and will help illegal immigrants to enter the country and destabilize the situation in Poland.
Morawiecki called it an "unconditional step" towards a further hybrid attack on Poland.
I would hope you're aware that the Polish Ambassador to France has already said that Poland will enter the conflict in Ukraine,if they feel that Ukraine is unable to keep it's sovereign territory.
See Trench you need to learn about everything that's happening,rather than focus on your one banging the drum scenario.
You were caught out making this huge mistake at the start of the orc invasion of Ukraine,with all your talk of the mighty Russians thermobaric weapons blasting little Ukraine to smithereens,with Ukraine falling quickly, and i had to put you right then...and here you are doing the same thing 17 months later...you need to learn from your mistakes.
Try looking at the bigger picture.
Here endeth your lesson. :)
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Russian and Ukrainian clans are all "regional" top-down organizations
tied to a common CEO , it really is a conglomerate of "interests" under a common roof, or krisha
in Russia everything has to have a krisha, or it gets washed away sooner or later
you don't pay your krisha, one day you could lose everything, even your life, this ALMOST happened to me
I am now connected through marriage to the Solntsevskaya Bratva
named after the Solntsevo District in Moscow (a wealthy district)
it'd be like sayin you're in the "Beverly Hills Mob" in the USA or the Greenwich Village Mob
if you are what people refer to as "British" ya might be in the Kensington or Chelsea mob
if you were in the Essex mob, you would't even tell anyone about it over embaressment
and you Trench, you have no ties to any clan, no loyalty 'cept to thine own self
you're not really part of any community
as I remember the midlands, they had these big dirty lookin red and brown brick industrial wasteland cities (the old empty mills were a great place to play in and throw rocks at the other kids)
once I hit puberty, I noticed...
that there were a LOT of sexually promiscuous women out prowling the club areas after dark like they're cats in heat
they liked to travel in small groups
these were all lower middle class chicks lookin for an "escape" by getting drunk and laid
"hello ladies, enjoying the night air are we...???
"Greetings, I am a wealthy "country bumpkin" American Tourist, who is also a virgin, will I be safe in this area??
you don't say it, you ACT IT!!
like choppin steak and throwin it to a school of sharks
I used to operate through Russian clan proxies, I don't do anything there now..
but here in the USA, we are all connected
I provide child protective custody services for the clan and help them "transition" into being trans-Americans (the land of don't say Gay or Goy)
Russians in the clan all respect my skills and trust me more than they would trust ANY Russian
before the war, I only got LOVE, from the Russian people, they didn't really view me as entirely American
more like they would a Russian who went to live there, but returned to the rodina
russians wanna throw my ass in jail, why? because of all the crimes I committed?
NO, I always pay my krisha
no, because it's the only way I'd ever work for them again
and they are freakin desperate
a wounded bear is a VERY dangerous creature to stand next to
I recommend being as far away as poosible
North America seems Nice!
if you spoke posh received pronunciation well
you could get one of them Seville Row suits
fly to New York
cruise the singles bars
you'd get hits
Marry the girl, become a US citizen, triple your income over here...
you got a better plan, then let's hear it!
or wear a simple black suit if you can do John Lenon or Paul Mcartney in a Karaoke bar
I did Karaoke like 30 yr ago, and often got invited to tables of girls...
and I'd tag along with them for the night, and leave after breakfast
those were good times, let me tell ya
hardly any young people live like this today where I live, they're too self-absorbed with their Instagram profile
and their future in the "real world" just gets worse over time
your destiny isn't virtual
to make it real
requires real effort
not to even try just means you're either too dumb or too lazy to try
I give you the zen slap of enlightenment
smart people (I'm not sayin any of ya'll are IDIOTS, cuz I wouldn't want to hurt somebody's delicate fee-fees here)
will choose their spouses when they're young and not middle-aged!
why? because that's when they're at their PEAK Sexual Market Value
and as a result, they get TOP PRICE for what "they're sellin"
OK?
what you got?
and how much ya think that's worth...
but, I have not come to appraise Trench....
but to ferry him,
to the next level
Don't be so dismissive of the Essex mob.....successful movies have been made about them. :)
"Rise of the footsoldier " and it's many associated spin-offs is a good place to start
Read about the Adams family too,originally from Islington,north London,many of whom are Essex boys.
Rather than being embarrassed to tell anybody who they are,people finding out who they are would instil fear.in those people.
I made two big mistakes in my life.
One was trusting the wrong woman.
The second one was to decline an invitation to join an Essex mob of seven guys when i came out of the Fleet Air Arm.
The members of that mob were never caught by the law...and are all now multi-millionaires living the dream all around the world.
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moscow has many other clans, not just that one, only a couple of big ones, and more smaller
Abramovich is in a clan, really, I had no idea, and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT
Lol, well sounds like they are plenty to choose from either that or getting with a Scottish clan with some awful tartan, a tough choice!
So with the krisha do you have to pay it even if not in Russia or Ukraine? That would make my wallet squeak a bit I think.
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Essex Mob?
whadda they do?
counterfeit Bingo Cards, and filter red diesel to clean with kitty litter?
aye laddie...
Kray brothers were so succuusful they became money launderers for the Vegas mob's cash to invest in the UK
every successful mob operation, eventually becomes a hedge fund management firm
just look around at 'em all in London and New York
the US military had various "internal organizations" to take advantage of the drug trade in the golden triangle in SE Asia, mucho, mucho, dinero back in the 70s!!!
but first we had to displace the Chinese triads
our mission
remove competition
by fighting "communism"
sweet....
this was before all the action switched to cocaine in thee 80s and a different branch of the military and CIA took over in this new (for them) venue
they used some of the cash to finance covert ops, and some to finance their bank accounts
don't we all though?
FSB and CIA. it don't matter, cept for what language
same game, same rules
we all lived like kings over there, and I was just `18
but pullin down a grown man's income and had to figure out what to do with all the cash
and learn to live a 'low profile'
so i've been doin it for quite awhile
and just recently retired from "bizness"
the military mobs are MUCH better operated than the street hooligan drug gangs
much, much less violence, much better operational secuity, and much better at deflecting FEDS
result = they make more as well
the barrier to entry, is being in the militaery, this keeps out most of the 'wankers'
it makes management of human resources so much more efficient with this approach compared to alternatives
and this effect of 'simplifying' a very complex and dangerous business, is what makes it so popular
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Trench..let me raise your awareness . :)
Why do you think the UK has some of the best-trained forces in the world ?
Who are we intending to attack or who are we afraid of invading us ?
Likewise the USA.
The reality is the Belarusian army is shambolic....poorly trained and low in morale and motivation.They even start crying when the Ukrainian border guards make threatening gestures at them.
If Lukashenko believes the Putler BS then he will be nervous about NATO forces invading Belarus,and of course his army now has a nuclear arsenal to protect.
Why do you think this training started directly after Putler shipped nuclear missiles to Belarus ? Think about it..
I also previously posted on here about the Suwalki Gap....which Wagner is far more likely to go for than your fantasies about Belarusian troops invading Ukraine,and would be another reason for Wagner being in Poland.
Well guess what ?
The Poles are now going to double the size of their army to around 300 thousand to strengthen their borders they claim.
Yesterday the Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki says that more than 100 "Wagnerians" has gone toward the Suwalki Gap connecting Poland with the Baltic States.
According to him they will be disguised as Belarusian border guards and will help illegal immigrants to enter the country and destabilize the situation in Poland.
Morawiecki called it an "unconditional step" towards a further hybrid attack on Poland.
I would hope you're aware that the Polish Ambassador to France has already said that Poland will enter the conflict in Ukraine,if they feel that Ukraine is unable to keep it's sovereign territory.
See Trench you need to learn about everything that's happening,rather than focus on your one banging the drum scenario.
You were caught out making this huge mistake at the start of the orc invasion of Ukraine,with all your talk of the mighty Russians thermobaric weapons blasting little Ukraine to smithereens,with Ukraine falling quickly, and i had to put you right then...and here you are doing the same thing 17 months later...you need to learn from your mistakes.
Try looking at the bigger picture.
Here endeth your lesson. :)
Let's not forget I was one of the few that predicted Russia would attack and been right in most other aspects of the campaign as it developed. The only two I was misplaced on was two strategic blunders on the part of Russia, one was not sending any troops down the Polish/Ukrainian the other was not obliterating Ukraine's troops at time of invasion with whatever was necessary to achieve the job, thermostatic, chemicals, mini nukes, etc. There was a third error that Russia made and that was not having enough troops in reserve to quickly bring up, so you're not putting your army in piecemeal but instead more effectively as one big army.
I don't see anything happening between Belarus, Russia & Poland or Poland invading Ukraine it's all noise on both sides. Belarus & Russia are happy to stir it up a bit as it gives them a good ruse to take attention away from their plan to attack Ukraine from the north. The more Ukraine believes it's some Polish or insurrection fear thing the more it will be willing to take troops away from that area and deploy them to the eastern/southern front.
So you see CB the only gap to worry about here is between those two ears ;D
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the apostles of Trench
will convey his words of wisdom
meant to forwarn the good peoples of the world
of the dangers of the dwarf's army
and like Cassandra his words went unheeded
and fair Camelot is no more
Oswald in Minsk, considering the ramifications of "Divine Power"
the wizard of Oz
don't look at the man behind the curtain
he doesn't want ya to know it's really him
magic is all about trickin simple village folks with illusions...
while the rest of us smirk at the effort
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Essex Mob?
whadda they do?
counterfeit Bingo Cards, and filter red diesel to clean with kitty litter?
aye laddie...
Kray brothers were so succuusful they became money launderers for the Vegas mob's cash to invest in the UK
every successful mob operation, eventually becomes a hedge fund management firm
just look around at 'em all in London and New York
the US military had various "internal organizations" to take advantage of the drug trade in the golden triangle in SE Asia, mucho, mucho, dinero back in the 70s!!!
but first we had to displace the Chinese triads
our mission
remove competition
by fighting "communism"
sweet....
this was before all the action switched to cocaine in thee 80s and a different branch of the military and CIA took over in this new (for them) venue
they used some of the cash to finance covert ops, and some to finance their bank accounts
don't we all though?
FSB and CIA. it don't matter, cept for what language
same game, same rules
we all lived like kings over there, and I was just `18
but pullin down a grown man's income and had to figure out what to do with all the cash
and learn to live a 'low profile'
so i've been doin it for quite awhile
and just recently retired from "bizness"
the military mobs are MUCH better operated than the street hooligan drug gangs
much, much less violence, much better operational secuity, and much better at deflecting FEDS
result = they make more as well
the barrier to entry, is being in the militaery, this keeps out most of the 'wankers'
it makes management of human resources so much more efficient with this approach compared to alternatives
and this effect of 'simplifying' a very complex and dangerous business, is what makes it so popular
What did they do ?
They ran a car-ringing gang out of an east-end lockup.
Only high-end cars such as E-type Jags,Aston Martins,Ferraris and Lambo's.
Never got caught and when they retired from the game they left seven Ferrari's in the, by then bigger premises, with the note "To the old bill..thanks for never catching us and as a thank you here's our gifts to you ".
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Let's not forget I was one of the few that predicted Russia would attack and been right in most other aspects of the campaign as it developed. The only two I was misplaced on was two strategic blunders on the part of Russia, one was not sending any troops down the Polish/Ukrainian the other was not obliterating Ukraine's troops at time of invasion with whatever was necessary to achieve the job, thermostatic, chemicals, mini nukes, etc. There was a third error that Russia made and that was not having enough troops in reserve to quickly bring up, so you're not putting your army in piecemeal but instead more effectively as one big army.
I don't see anything happening between Belarus, Russia & Poland or Poland invading Ukraine it's all noise on both sides. Belarus & Russia are happy to stir it up a bit as it gives them a good ruse to take attention away from their plan to attack Ukraine from the north. The more Ukraine believes it's some Polish or insurrection fear thing the more it will be willing to take troops away from that area and deploy them to the eastern/southern front.
So you see CB the only gap to worry about here is between those two ears ;D
I also said Russia would invade Ukraine,so that doesn't make you some kind of mastermind.
You never gave the answer as to why the UK and USA both have well-trained forces i noticed.
Are they intending to attack someone or do they fear being attacked ? As per your reason as to why Lukashenko wants a well-trained army.
If Poland gets involved in the conflict it won't be to invade Ukraine,it will be to assist Ukraine in the war against Russia,and this is something Putler fears..hence why he's sending Wagner troops to the Polish border with Belarus...to keep Poland on the back-foot.
It's called strategy Trench..clearly something you need to learn about. ;D
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tool of a professional...
easily disassembles into a collection of mechanical componets
customs will look at the pieces and nod, cuz it AIN'T a FIREARM, it's an airgun, and a completely field strpped air gun, looks completely harmless in your luggage
you can bring a handpump to fill the cylinder instead of a compressor, but it takes awhile
a headshot at 100 meters will penetrate through one side and out the other
a silencer, called a "shroud" for pneumatic weapons, makes it as loud as slamming a book shut
here in the USA, I can buy it off EBay
add a Gen III night vision scope
wear completely black clothing with a black face mask
and after a few months of night training
be a night time killin machine against well armed but lesser equipped opponents
and do so with a perfectly legal weapon in the USA or Russia (but not Western Europe)
and be a Stalker in the Zone
when the red army invaded poland the same time the Nazis did,
the Soviet spoils of war/fruits of victory
included the Electrit Zavod in Poland, which was likely Poland's largest electrpnics mfg in '39
picked it up lock stock barrel and even old gum wrappers
and dropped it all off in Minsk
in the 50s and 60s Soviets put a lot of resouces into this factory to produce both military and civilian radios, they made good products, all the old model sets are highly collecible today, including the models Oswald himself tested
the place has a weird ambience
usual soviet industrial green color scheme
cool lookin old, old handmade test equipment, production machinery leaking oil cuz it's so old and worn out
but the people...
they all seem unusual and it makes me uncomfortable
like the boss is watching
and that's the other thing
the factory has "two worlds" two realities
one from thre people on the facory floor, and another for the people in the back room who run the place, and the people elsewhere who run them
and they are as different as night is from day
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The existence of "clans" is nothing new. It's a nascent step in urban capitalism. Think of prohibition era gangsters in the U.S.
FSU "clans" are extensions of the former nomenklatura. This is more so in Russia than Ukraine, because in Russia, they have been subsumed into state organs. That is far less so in Ukraine. But "clans" control Ukrainian cities as well. Kyiv is controlled by four "clans", each controlling a separate sector of the city.
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yeah, the Odesa mob is a sad little affair now
moved from drug and weapon smuggling to real estate and politics where the real money is
big branch of theirs in Brighton Beach, NY, so called "liitle Odessa"
Soviet Jewish Emigrees turned into nouveax riche bourgeois Americans
almost a caricature of the "ugly jew" that fits perfectly with the rest of New York's wealthy
but the seeds of destruction will be sewn by all faiths and creeds
the judgement written into the LAWS of Fizzics
Here, dear gentle readers of RWD, here are words of a true prophet
A British woman wrote these words in the 1850s, before computers, before radio, lights, cars...
a damned smart woman who figured out the TRUTH on her own in 1856, and tried to warn us
read them, and then weep, for it fortells the end of your world
the years of plenty
will be followed by a painful drought
but pharoh, did not store grain for the people
so the people all came for the pharoh's grain, cuz they had nothin to lose
this is what "eat the rich" means
the rich
privitize the surplus
and the poor
are sent the bill to pay for it
but these topics ain't gonna get discussed a whole lot
cuz the real struggle ain't oligarchs vrs lower/middle class in either Russia or Amerika
no...no...no...
it's transexuals vrs the traditional order
and guess who wants to kiss the majority's ASS at election time?
and this is what you christians settled for, hating on "immorals"
instead of tryin to do somethin to make people's lives better
this is how you used your power
to persecute, instead of aiding
ya'll can't judge me, without me turning around
and reciprocating
the moral judgement of the judged and the judge
never shall agree
but, please accept
only my compliments and kindest regards
I fully acknowledge your socially dominant position
and my own humble, inferiority
I avert my eyes in your presence
but I just won't shut my mouth
I fear NO EVIL
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Good article on the Russian mindset.
I think this is very accurate.
http://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-negotiate-russia-peace-war/
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Ukraine/Ukraine orthodox church has apparently now moved their Christmas to the 25th December like ours, makes it easier for us westerners I guess to not to have to deal with two Christmas's when conversing with the girls from there. Moreso if Ukraine ever survives this one.
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two countries, Russia/Ukraine
only one will still be there 5 yrs from now...
how much are you willing to bet on Ukraine?
and what happens if you lose the bet?
Trench...
yeah christmas on 25th!
english is a protected language
weed is legal
pooty tang EVERYWHERE
if I were a young man, I KNOW fer real where i'd be livin, and it sure as hell wouldn't be in my MAMA's village
you a mama's boy Trench?
she makes you puddin for dessert or somethin?
why the hell doncha wanna get the hell outta there and go see the world?
I left home soon as I was old enuff to drive a car
and I could drive to NYC from Arlington, Virginia
and spend the weekend with my girlfriend
and she paid all my expenses and bought the booze cuz she was old enuff and I wasn't
thy're strict there!
you won't have that problem in ukraine, slava ukrai-ee-na
just buy some land
grow some weed
and find yourself a pretty mama who will dance with her daddy all night long
while you play some funky dixie band
pretty mama gonna take you by your hand
kinda lyrical ain't it
or ya can do the "same ole, same ole"
in your same ole familar, comfortable surroundings
which, in reality, is probably what you will end up doing
at the bottom of your tomb stone
it will be so inscribed
"if only he had another week...he would have finished it"
time cuts sharper than any knife
and the wounds never heal
if you don't start livin your life in SOME active style that provides you social contact
then your current plan isn't any better than just sitting idely, passively waiting for life to evolve, after mixing some random amino acids together so you can have sex with it!
(disclaimer: I am not liable for the results, if anyone reading this attempts this process on their own)
necessity is the mother of invention Trench
start thinkin and then start doin
raise your probabilities and you raise your possibilities
you fail, because of a lack of trying hard enough
you're passive
and not active
this causes you to do too little
and to do it too late
don't you see, you are your own worse enemy
and it's cuz you're LAZY Trench
Russian and Ukrainian women are REPELLED by this
the first moment they see this in you, and I imagine in a "face-to-face" meeting, it will manifest to them in different ways
but "they'll get it"
and the moment that happens, they're done with you, at best they may try to scam you
the problem "ain't the world Trench"
it's your lack of effort
you always take the easy road
and that path never really leads anywhere
you need to change direction
and go on a path you never been before
whadda ya got to lose, except your virginity?
ohhhhhhhhhhh
I get it NOW!!!
WOW!
but hey, no one should really be judgemental towards you
none of us, least of all me, is perfect
we are all somewhere on the spectrum of humanity
it's ok..
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The AFU counter-offensive must be going well now.
Medvedev is threatening to use nukes if it's successful. :rolleyes:
USA has responded by saying if Russia does then Russia is in the sh*t. >:D
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They waited too long and are too timid in risking casualties:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/the-russians-were-waiting-us-ukraine-troops-describe-tougher-fight-than-expected-2023-07-31/
So Ukraine being too cautious could be it's undoing. The longer the war goes on the less favourable circumstances are likely to be towards Ukraine as the West are only going to support them so long, Putler knows that. If Ukraine wants to save it's nation they are going to have to press in harder now, risk higher casualties and try and retake a lit more land before Summer is over.
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I was reading a report from a Ukrainian soldier at the front.
He was saying it's easy to blame the slower than expected counter-offensive on mines and having to wait for the promised military equipment and weapons from the west,but nobody talks about the elephant in the room.
That being that a lot of the Ukrainian senior officers are incompetent and still using a Soviet style mentality.
He was saying it's all very well giving Ukrainian troops and NCO's NATO style training..but no-one is training the senior officers making the decisions.
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easy to criticize
try fighting in an environment where there's a mine every square meter (this war will produce tens of thousands of paraplegic young men = opportunity for Trench?)
where you don't have air superiority or even air support
and you're outnumbered in everything
in the last 2 months, Ukraine has taken hundreds of Russian artillery pieces and rocket launchers off the board (with ammo made in Pennsylvania)
if they hadn't, when they launch their main attack with their reserves, they would have been cut to pieces, but now Russian forces are seriously degraded
it raises the probability of success that a small force (< 50,000) will be able to succeed without getting flattened by the Russians first, otherwise Ukraine would need a lot more men than what they have
biggest problem now is ammunition
the war is a monster that swallows a mountain of ammunition every day
it's already eaten everything in sight, except for Diego Garcia, and we gotta keep that for the Chinese and Iranians
it's why I think that in the future this style of warfare will be on the way out
and a new more environmentally friendly "carbon neutral" form will emerge that is also "Budget Friendly"
Green Peace and War (Profiteers and Losers)
wife's family heard new explosions from the airfield north of them
I warned them along time ago to stay off the road that passes by there and take the long way
don't drive on bridges, etc
stockpile food
they refuse to leave...
cuz their men all got conscripted
Tolstoy and The Siege of Sevastopol
how many sequels of that do we really need?
to think, that if I were still living there, I'd be an officer in the Russian Army right now
wearing the GRU uniform for real this time, under moy GRU Badge
but it means playing the convincing role of the good cooperative prisoner, who knows "the truth" about the west and fled...
sometimes, on quiet days, I can close my eyes and almost smell Moya Rodina
and hear the rain falling on the leaves
so spossiba bog, that I'm a FREE MAN sittin in the Gulf of Mexico right now in shorts and t-shirt, watchin the sailboats drift offshore and trying to guage their speed
cuz anything more than that, like FIGHTING, for instance
doesn't seem like it's really worth the effort, but can ya get me a beer, before you go, that would BE GREAT!
get this, Russia just raised the age for "specialists" to join the Russian military up to age 70!!!
geezers with special technical or linguistic abilities can skip completely all the "PT" Physical Training
and...
can get up later and even take naps!!!!!
DAMN!!!!!
plus DRUGS!!!
plus MONEY!!! (Rubley is like "Monopoly Money", earning Rubley is part of the game, like getting a free buffet breakfast at 4Seasons)
plus FREE FOOD!! (no 4Seasons hussles, a Russian School Cafeteria run by babooshkie in white coats and hats who make ya verrinike)
and if you are SMART you will give these babooshkie a wink and a smile once in awhile...
plus FREE HOUSING!! which can be "supplemented" in various ways, totally makes sense for a poor woman to hook up with you for officer's spousal benefits
plus FREE TRANSPORTATION WITHIN RUSSIA!!
and on top of all of that...
INFINITE RUSSIAN POOTY TANG!!!!!
hmmmmmmmmmmm
sheeeeet dawg, it's a good thing that I have it even BETTER where I'm at
I already got me some russians doin my cookin and cleanin, spossiba, DA, KAHYESHNO! THAT TOO!!!
OH! SNAP!
Have A Nice Day Russia!
See Ya, wouldn't wanna Be Ya!
or your Army recruiter
polushka poley moy jhoppa!!
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Russia's new attempt at winning the war is to under no circumstances allow any negative news about them getting smashed seeing the light of day.
So..denial/lying is the new thing which is gonna defeat the AFU.
Only problem is...it ain't working and is making Putler and his orcs the laughing stock of the World.
Last night the orcs MOD reported "All Ukrainian naval drones were destroyed.No damages.The attack was successfully repelled. "
The reality is that video emerges showing a large landing craft listing heavily ,one of the ships compartments flooded,after actually errrrr taking a hit.
There was also a drone attack on Feodosia,Crimea last night.
The adviser to the gauleiter of Crimea stated that all targets were shot down by anti-aircraft missiles.
The reality is that a couple of videos from local residents emerged showing a drone hitting the oil depot.
Oh dear ;D
Anyway,the war is going so well for the orcs they're now having to mobilize retired officers up to the age of 70...as Krim reported.
Not surprising really bearing in mind the total of confirmed orc officers killed in Ukraine since 24th February 2022 has risen to 2,606 as at 2nd August 2023.
Based on publicly available data from Russia.Confirmations are made from funeral notices,obituaries and news sites.
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and here's a photo of the stricken large orc amphibious assault ship "Olenegorsky Gorniyak " having to be towed back to port by tugs after being hit at Novorossiysk,Russia.
Moscow being hit by drones,Crimea being hit by drones,orc Naval bases in Russia being hit by drones ....all going to plan then for Putler and his orcs >:D
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2q3-c5WcAAAy1c?format=jpg&name=large)
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The latest AFU figures for orc losses in Ukraine have now reached the 250,000 mark.
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http://kyivindependent.com/commander-russia-continues-to-use-chemical-weapons-in-ukraine/
Zyklon B
was not meant for me or thee
t'was meant for a tiny flea
starry, starry novichok
only works in spring and summer,
and not in winter, what a bummer
Putin has already seen Oppenheimer with Russian sub-titles
and he liked it
smaller russian nukes have a very high probability of working
but not bigger ones
the tritium maintenance program for russia's nukes, was ripped off ages ago
but the plutonium cores will work fine
I read a lot of Russian technical papers from the 1950s where they were imploding smaller and smaller masses of plutonium
and got a sub-critical mass of around 800 grams to produce a very low yield weapon instead of the default 6.1 kg
we did the same and produced a 75 pound nuclear warhead called the "Davy Crocket"
this is all 60 yr old tech...
if you took this 60 yr old tech, and stuck it on the end of Isael's current anti-missile technology
you could laugh at everyone's ICBMs
How long ya'll think you're gonna keep that Genie locked up in the Bottle?
forever?
nope!
he gonna git out sooner than ya'll think
and putin will make a deal with the devil, in exchange for 3 wishes
april showers
brings may flowers
global warming
brings nuclear winter
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Are you an orc who had your leg blown off in Ukraine ?
No problem, we can get you back in there fighting in no time, until you get a bullet in the head.
After all...who wants to live forever eh ?
Below is local advertising in Kursk.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/F28Gl4_XEAEgNNi?format=jpg&name=small)
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they tried so hard, and got so far
but in the end, it really didn't matter...
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Ukrainians claim some kind of advance in the south, Russians claim some sort of advance in the north. In reality it seems that neither side are making any great advance and both seem to be in a stalemate situation. Many soldiers lives lost for a few hundred metres of dirt that essentially amount to nothing and may be retaken.
So for Ukraine too little progress too late. It's now seems down to a situation where big progress to advance in either side is unlikely and only tiny territory gains back and forth seem likely and pointless. Much like the WWI Western Front situation, both sides dug in having a go at each other but no real significant gains only significant loss of life.
So increasingly it seems many lives sacrificed over meaningless insignificant tiny gains of dirt back and forth. One news summing up of present situation:
http://euromaidanpress.com/2023/08/07/ukraine-advances-in-south-russia-assaults-in-east-over-past-week/
In reality no real significant advances by Ukraine nor Russia.
Ukraine really needs F16 fighter jets from the West to stand much chance of succeeding in its Counter-offensive. Otherwise it looks like Ukraine's Counter-offensive is doomed to failure and potentially Ukraine with it. I doubt Ukraine can hold up long term against Russia as I doubt the West will carry on supplying it over many years and propping up it's economy.
I think the West holding out on sending F16 jets is p*ssing around now which they can ill afford to do if they want Ukraine to win. Before I can understand the hesitation but now everything has moved on and it's an increasingly high stakes game, you don't take the risk and you lose the game.
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I'd agree with all that.
There are some who believe this was the USA's plan from the start,and said so at the outset of the war...to create a stalemate in Ukraine which will drain the resources,influence and economy of Russia over many years.
I always wondered why during the rather long build-up of orc forces around Ukraine,NATO didn't send a peace-keeping force into Ukraine to guard the borders.
I don't believe Russia would have risked direct confrontation with NATO forces.
The constant delays from the USA in firstly training the Ukrainian pilots and support crews,and subsequently supplying the F-16's to Ukraine ,as if the USA wants to drag out the war and is rather enjoying watching the degrading of the Russian military and economy,seems to confirm the original suspicions of some.
I was reading that Russian oil exports to India have now fallen to pre-war levels,and countries that were pro-Russian are now turning against them,such as Brazil...so the, claimed by some, USA's end-game could well be working.
Russia is doing itself no favours by first of all starting the war,and now causing grain shortages in countries that were pro-Russian.
There are widespread reports of military recruitment centres throughout Russia being set on fire now,which could mean either people don't want to be called-up or hopefully the Russian population is finally starting to turn against Putler and his cronies.
One has to feel sympathy for the decent people in Ukraine ,and there are some,despite all the scumbag lowlife traitors,scammers and crooks there,who are suffering and dying as it seems their country is being used as a pawn in a larger game.
Of course this can all backfire horribly for the USA and the west if Putler starts a nuclear war in his growing frustration.
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I'd agree with all that.
There are some who believe this was the USA's plan from the start,and said so at the outset of the war...to create a stalemate in Ukraine which will drain the resources,influence and economy of Russia over many years.
I always wondered why during the rather long build-up of orc forces around Ukraine,NATO didn't send a peace-keeping force into Ukraine to guard the borders.
I don't believe Russia would have risked direct confrontation with NATO forces.
The constant delays from the USA in firstly training the Ukrainian pilots and support crews,and subsequently supplying the F-16's to Ukraine ,as if the USA wants to drag out the war and is rather enjoying watching the degrading of the Russian military and economy,seems to confirm the original suspicions of some.
I was reading that Russian oil exports to India have now fallen to pre-war levels,and countries that were pro-Russian are now turning against them,such as Brazil...so the, claimed by some, USA's end-game could well be working.
Russia is doing itself no favours by first of all starting the war,and now causing grain shortages in countries that were pro-Russian.
There are widespread reports of military recruitment centres throughout Russia being set on fire now,which could mean either people don't want to be called-up or hopefully the Russian population is finally starting to turn against Putler and his cronies.
One has to feel sympathy for the decent people in Ukraine ,and there are some,despite all the scumbag lowlife traitors,scammers and crooks there,who are suffering and dying as it seems their country is being used as a pawn in a larger game.
Of course this can all backfire horribly for the USA and the west if Putler starts a nuclear war in his growing frustration.
I agree I think the western government's warnings of a Russian attack before the war though true were kind of stoking the hostilities of the two nations. Kind of felt like they were egging it on until it came to grief and the two sides were locked in a conflict that neither side could get out off due to increasing bitterness on either side that such conflict generates in addition to the territory disagreement neither wishes to give way on. The supply of anti tank NLAWS & Javelins before and during the early stages of the war helping to thwart Russia's plan for a quick invasion in addition to its own problems with its tanks clapping out.
It might seem a risky strategy since Russia could have taken Ukraine for all the west knows but like you say I think the west's key aim was to isolate Russia and take over it's markets. Europe was heavily dependent on Russia's oil & gas particularly Germany and now that has largely been cut western industries are developing to fill the gap.
Russia's economy is still in economic decline and is likely to year in year at least as long as this conflict continues:
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-economy-ruble-putin-ukraine-war-invasion-dollar-western-sanctions-2023-8
So Russia is growing a big budget deficit of billions each year due to extra spending on defense. How long the Russian economy can go before it all collapses in who knows. Odds are even after the end of the war whenever that will be Russia will have been kicked out of its key foreign markets and probably for the most part won't get back in. So the outlook for most Russians is bleak, back to the old collapsed economic years like after the end of the USSR.
Ukraine too I think will be in a situation if economic collapse it's using it's all to defend the invasion, it's budget and is being propped up by western governments. If it survives it will likely be in the hands of western governments and western companies I think if there is anything worthwhile there otherwise probably just a forward NATO staging post.
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http://youtu.be/4wGtSdZbZ5M
OMG!!!!
the part about ukraine begins at about the 23:00 min mark
A republican who's not a Pootin or Trump lover
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Looks like as thought earlier as Ukraine gains small amounts of dirt territory in the south, Russia gains small amounts of dirt territory in the north:
Via Euronews: Ukraine war: Russia 'improves position', West lining Putin's coffers, German army staff 'spying'
http://www.euronews.com/2023/08/10/ukraine-war-west-lining-putins-coffers-german-army-staff-spying-for-russia-crimea-drone-at
By the end of Summer unless something big happens that is looking unlikely at the moment it will roughly be the same amount of ground gained an lost, so a stalemate. If Russia makes an significant enough ground in the north more Ukrainian forces are going to need to be diverted there possibly forcing an early end to Ukraine's southern Counter-offensive.
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Looks like all the early excitement phase of the war is now over and the invasion of Ukraine is turning from war, war to bore, bore. Seems Ukraine & Russia are now locked in a pretty much stalemate situation that could go on for many years in theory. This professor guy seems to sum up the situation fairly well I think:
http://unherd.com/2023/08/why-ukraines-offensive-has-stalled/
Looks like the Russian economy will keep together enough to keep going for sone years although debt build up and harsh economic climate won't be kind on the Russian people. Ukraine meanwhile is largely backed by the west and my guess is they will have to hope on continuing support to defend itself. In that I think the EU is entirely committed with Ukraine & Russia being in its borders. The UK will likely continue its support too as while not right on its doorstep is as near as. That and sone possibly support from the rest of the world will probably keep Ukraine in the game especially if Russia starts to struggle to keep up with supplying it's military due to cost. Overall it looks like the war in Ukraine could be going on for some time.
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di rusn
לרוסים יש סוד
don't be worried tovarisch, you're gonna hear about it...
bribing the head of the FBI's Russian cyber intelligence dept
and using imprisoned hackers to hack the DNC's emails
to make the 2016 presidential more to Russia's liking
was PURE freaking genuis
but you ain't seen nothin holmes
what if....
what if...
the war was "for show" and crisis management was the plan all along...
but...
the worst is yet to come...
and not just for the slavic brothers cain and abel
the show is over-running it's budget, so they're gonna do the grand finale, earlier than the script called for
Putin is gonna let out ALL the Devils to do his bidding
that he locked up in cages
but the devils don't obey anyone, least of all him
bar-dak baby
putin don't care
cuz he knows it's over
but...
he doesn't want that condition to only apply to himself
it's gonna hurt
it's gonna leave a permanent scar on the planet
another "bad spot"
like all the rest I've been to
the places where the dead are all buried
as pure as the silence of Katryn
at AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU
you can rub your finger briskly over a piece of old wood in a barracks (one of hundreds)
and you can smell 1944....
I will never forget THAT smell
that piece of wood combined with the right hallucinogens
is the perfect combination to experience history in first-person
without having to testify at Nuremberg
Kabbalah magik tricks
performed by a Kabbalah magician
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One of the more mundane ways this war might possibly in 2024 or thereafter if the stalemate continues is a peace treaty likely agreeing that:
1). Russia holds in and annexes the territory it is currently occupying, the Crimea, the areas of the Donbass and Luhansk including Mariupol & Melitopol.
2). It is accepted that Ukraine will join NATO and possibly/probably later the EU.
Ukraine of course want the whole of Ukraine back but they are now reliant on western weapons supply so they no longer call the shots the west does. The west saying to Ukraine that they can't supply weapons for much longer so Ukraine will have to come to terms will push Ukraine to such an agreement rather than losing the whole of their country. Odds are with a stalemate situation continuing next year the west will get fed up of supplying Ukraine with weapons from their existing armies and propping the Ukraine government up financially. No matter who is in power in the west continuing an expensive war campaign that's bogged down in stalemate probably will get to be seen more as an Election liability which most politicians will want to avoid.
The Russians meanwhile will see that the west isn't prepared to let the whole if Ukraine fall but is prepared to come to an agreement. Russia will get the territory it now occupied (roughly) but knows that it doesn't have the power to break the stalemate unless they wish to go to extremes, so far they have shown that they don't wish to go that far. So Russia doesn't walk away empty handed, it gains territory which it claims is most Russian, it gains more Black Sea ports and crucially it gets the land bridge it so wanted to Crimea.
Neither side will like that they didn't get all that they had their heart set upon but both sides will likely see it as the only logical and necessary solution.
To get there both sides will have to become tired of the war, their country's and economy busted up enough by it and their military knackered out both by the fighting and by their equipment supply.
Other ends to the war are of course possible and Russia might yet still use more extreme measures, but I see this ending as the most likely and plausible whether it happens next year or in the years after. Now if someone can direct me to a bookies where I might make good money on such a prediction ;D
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Shoigu visited Russia's nuclear test facility recently....
he's validating that there won't be any surprises
IMHO, this is the solution of last resort
it will not be applied before Putin's election in March 7, 2024
and it also depends on the probability of Trump being elected to replace Biden, which normally would be a remote possibility in nov 2024
but the Russians will make sure, the 2024 election cycle is not normal
the cost of the Ukrainian war will be one of the main republican topics in 2024
russians are furiously manipulating social media to reduce American support for the war, and it's working
by the end of the month, Trump will have accumulated over 100 criminal charges
plus the civil penalty for rape and twice impeached
if this doesn't scream "Presidential Material" I don't know what does
man republicans are amazingly astute with their political choices, LOL
Ron Desantis LOL!!!
american oligarchs need to find better political "front-men" other than Trump and Desantis
to convince the masses that the billionaires all deeply care about their concerns
and aren't just ripping them off
the worst thing that can possibly happen to oligarchs is for the working class to "wake up" and be woke
hence the universal war of authoritarians vrs woke philosophy
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The US federal government could have its own social media strategy. But, this war won't be what determines who is the next president. Economic factors and public safety issues will be bigger issues.
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Shoigu visited Russia's nuclear test facility recently....
he's validating that there won't be any surprises
IMHO, this is the solution of last resort
it will not be applied before Putin's election in March 7, 2024
and it also depends on the probability of Trump being elected to replace Biden, which normally would be a remote possibility in nov 2024
but the Russians will make sure, the 2024 election cycle is not normal
the cost of the Ukrainian war will be one of the main republican topics in 2024
russians are furiously manipulating social media to reduce American support for the war, and it's working
by the end of the month, Trump will have accumulated over 100 criminal charges
plus the civil penalty for rape and twice impeached
if this doesn't scream "Presidential Material" I don't know what does
man republicans are amazingly astute with their political choices, LOL
Ron Desantis LOL!!!
That I can believe. However Trump well I don't get the time to follow American politics closely but it seems that Trump is facing a tidal wave of criminal charges. From what I saw the other day on the news it's sounds like they ain't all trumped up charges either ;) It sounded like the prosecutors have real evidence and are serious. I didn't get the impression that they were just trying to sling anything at him on an axe to grind basis. I'm really starting to doubt if Trump will make it to the Presidential Election at this rate, I personally think he will be taken down with it all. It just sounds like to me that the prosecutors have really done their job and are certain he has committed these crimes. I don't think you have anything to worry about Trump getting off them or getting into the White House again.
That's not to say another Republican might not get in. I think even if not Trump another Republican could get into the White House. Like you say if the American people move against supporting the war in Ukraine then unless Biden moves with them he will be very vulnerable to being ousted I reckon.
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Trump is a political absurdity
which actually suits the period of history we find ourselves in
what ISN'T absurd in this timeline?
Trump's fundraising off this, and that's his primary purpose. GRIFTING!!!
Once it's clear he's not gonna win, he'll fly to Brazil for "medical treatment", and hopefully this'll be the last we ever hear of him, after he goes into exile
Democrats may substitute the Gov of Calif for Biden depending on how well he does in the upcoming Desantis debate and how well Biden is publicly faring with Hunter and his old age...
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infrastructure is collapsing EVERYWHERE in Russia
that's what happens when someone in power steals all the money, and doesn't give a damn what happens...
as a result of this, a damn collapsed in Primorsky Krai Russia, flooding everbody below
but when I was in Russia a few yrs ago, I saw much, much worse negligence in the far east
all those chickens are coming home to roost
soon there will be massive flocks of them
see how happy everyone in Russia is?
and not a damn thing these people can do about it
http://twitter.com/i/status/1691123107472330752
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if Putina loses the war (he chickens out over mini/mikro nukes) then eventually, he will be replaced by someone even further to the right, who will seize power by destroying the oligarchy and re-creates the socialist republic of Russia
nuclear war ain't gonna be like ya'll see on TV...
Trump revealed some details to Woodward, about America's micro-nukes
Trump is WRONG when he claims that this technology is exclusively American
how do I know?
cuz I bought the Soviet technical informatze for making them (don't worry, I don't have the materials) and my plan for sending my youngest daughter to Russian nuke school, is off the table, she just returned from Israel after graduating this year from Technion
soviets did huge number of tests of imploding sub-critical masses of uranium/plutonium starting in the 50s
by the 70s they figured out how to make the secret sauce that would allow them to implode < 10 grams of plutonium + deuterium/tritium into a 10 ton TNT equivalent explosion, that would fit in your hand that uses less than a half-kilo, of custom high density high explosive for compression
very small amounts of radiation
the USA had a mini-nuke called the W54 back in the early 60s, that weighed 70 pounds, cuz of the shielding, and the fact that it used 60 yr old tech, same design today would weigh 50% less
the Russian version (no shielding) would weigh half that
and that's a 60 yr old mini-nuke
a mikro-nuke is light years ahead of this, cuz it uses a different configuration than the football shaped large sub-critical mass configuration used in the W54
the mikro-nuke has the plutonium in a hollow sphere and the "layers" are configured differently than the W54
Soviets had a 100 pages of differential equations describing the compression of mikro-nukes vrs standard nukes, all done without computers from the early 50s
impressive, Moscow State University is
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if Putina loses the war (he chickens out over mini/mikro nukes) then eventually, he will be replaced by someone even further to the right, who will seize power by destroying the oligarchy and re-creates the socialist republic of Russia
nuclear war ain't gonna be like ya'll see on TV...
Trump revealed some details to Woodward, about America's micro-nukes
Trump is WRONG when he claims that this technology is exclusively American
how do I know?
cuz I bought the Soviet technical informatze for making them (don't worry, I don't have the materials) and my plan for sending my youngest daughter to Russian nuke school, is off the table, she just returned from Israel after graduating this year from Technion
soviets did huge number of tests of imploding sub-critical masses of uranium/plutonium starting in the 50s
by the 70s they figured out how to make the secret sauce that would allow them to implode < 10 grams of plutonium + deuterium/tritium into a 10 ton TNT equivalent explosion, that would fit in your hand that uses less than a half-kilo, of custom high density high explosive for compression
very small amounts of radiation
the USA had a mini-nuke called the W54 back in the early 60s, that weighed 70 pounds, cuz of the shielding, and the fact that it used 60 yr old tech, same design today would weigh 50% less
the Russian version (no shielding) would weigh half that
and that's a 60 yr old mini-nuke
a mikro-nuke is light years ahead of this, cuz it uses a different configuration than the football shaped large sub-critical mass configuration used in the W54
the mikro-nuke has the plutonium in a hollow sphere and the "layers" are configured differently than the W54
Soviets had a 100 pages of differential equations describing the compression of mikro-nukes vrs standard nukes, all done without computers from the early 50s
impressive, Moscow State University is
Hence my Gennady Zyuganov suggestion, could be someone else though but possibly similar take.
Here is another guy who followed my alternative ending for the Ukraine war and wasn't thanked for it:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/16/nato-official-suggests-ukraine-could-give-up-territory-in-exchange-for-membership
So Krim, where do you think Russia will be aiming their mini nukes? My guess is Ukraine is high up on their hit list.
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targets?
Zelensky when he's visiting the front
large masses of ukrainian troops
and then every single power plant in Ukraine
this will be next year at the earliest
Nato will struggle over the correct response
and will likely under-respond due to fear of escalation
and Putin will accept the losses
and then just use even more mikro-nukes
after March 7, 2024
Russia is gonna kick it up a notch
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targets?
Zelensky when he's visiting the front
large masses of ukrainian troops
and then every single power plant in Ukraine
this will be next year at the earliest
Nato will struggle over the correct response
and will likely under-respond due to fear of escalation
and Putin will accept the losses
and then just use even more mikro-nukes
after March 7, 2024
Russia is gonna kick it up a notch
Yeah I'm surprised that Putler didn't hit Ukrainian troops first with some type of mini nuke or similar devastating weapons. That would break Ukraine's troop lines so allowing Russian forces to punch through and get around the back of remaining troops and destroy Ukrainian troop morale. He could again had the conflict over quickly. Sure the international community would condemn him but they are doing that already but it would also shock fear into them.
The easiest victory Russia messed up at the beginning by not invading in the west of Ukraine to cut off its land border. The more mess ups Russia makes the greater force it needs to win.
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Putina is "nationalistic" but he's not a nationalist
he doesn't actually care AT ALL about the welfare of Russians
he feeds their prejudices, in order to impose his authority and control
under the disguise of "patriotism"
the russian people are nothing more than serfs to him
this is very similar to how the republican party panders to the prejudices of southern white christians , because no economic adjustments are necessary from the upper classes in a culture war, so they create a culture war to avoid a class war
economic and social conditions in Russia are in a continuous decline, the GDP has decreased about 20% since 2014, after the invasion of Crimea by "little green men", who were invited in to Crimea thanks to "fake electors" voting in the Crimean Parliment...
Fake Electors, from Putin and then Trump, hmmmm coincidence of course
the intersection of russian gangsta capitalists and american financial interests is a much bigger threat to American society than men in drag, I know some of ya'll will find that hard to believe
I know, some of ya'll are thinkin, the Russians are white, how could other white people be more a threat compared to men wearing dresses? or students learning the truth about slavery and racism?
because if the rich lose control over the culture, they understand the culture will come after their privilige sooner or later
and the rich in the USA, like the rich everywhere else, all look down on the poor, that THEY create
In Russia, this means that if Putina fails and Russia has a "hard landing" then the whole oligarchy, i.e. "Putin's People" will all go down with him
this is why oligarchs have no choice but to fight to the last russian (while their kids are abroad)
Putina, at some point next year, will realize the risk of using mini/micro nukes, will be less than the risk of NOT using them
NATO will NOT respond with nukes, if he does this
this whole thing has been planned out by Russian focus groups and war games
the Russian military exercises held before the Ukrainian invasion
was an exact copy of the invasion
there will be signs
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Putina is "nationalistic" but he's not a nationalist
he doesn't actually care AT ALL about the welfare of Russians
he feeds their prejudices, in order to impose his authority and control
under the disguise of "patriotism"
the russian people are nothing more than serfs to him
this is very similar to how the republican party panders to the prejudices of southern white christians , because no economic adjustments are necessary from the upper classes in a culture war, so they create a culture war to avoid a class war
economic and social conditions in Russia are in a continuous decline, the GDP has decreased about 20% since 2014, after the invasion of Crimea by "little green men", who were invited in to Crimea thanks to "fake electors" voting in the Crimean Parliment...
Fake Electors, from Putin and then Trump, hmmmm coincidence of course
the intersection of russian gangsta capitalists and american financial interests is a much bigger threat to American society than men in drag, I know some of ya'll will find that hard to believe
I know, some of ya'll are thinkin, the Russians are white, how could other white people be more a threat compared to men wearing dresses? or students learning the truth about slavery and racism?
because if the rich lose control over the culture, they understand the culture will come after their privilige sooner or later
and the rich in the USA, like the rich everywhere else, all look down on the poor, that THEY create
In Russia, this means that if Putina fails and Russia has a "hard landing" then the whole oligarchy, i.e. "Putin's People" will all go down with him
this is why oligarchs have no choice but to fight to the last russian (while their kids are abroad)
Putina, at some point next year, will realize the risk of using mini/micro nukes, will be less than the risk of NOT using them
NATO will NOT respond with nukes, if he does this
this whole thing has been planned out by Russian focus groups and war games
the Russian military exercises held before the Ukrainian invasion
was an exact copy of the invasion
there will be signs
I strongly suspect you and Trench will be in for a huge shock if Russia uses any kind of nukes...regarding NATO's response.
Putler has been made fully aware of what the response will be,which is why he hasn't used them yet....despite all the Russian threats of using them.
At least Trench wouldn't have to worry about getting hold of a woman anymore.
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I strongly suspect you and Trench will be in for a huge shock if Russia uses any kind of nukes...regarding NATO's response.
Putler has been made fully aware of what the response will be,which is why he hasn't used them yet....despite all the Russian threats of using them.
At least Trench wouldn't have to worry about getting hold of a woman anymore.
That's what I love about you CB ever the over optimistic NATO response guy lol :ROFL:
Sure NATO in theory have a response, fire back in a war in which they are apparently not involved. Hello to nuclear mutually assured destruction or sit there and issue condemnations and avoid mutually assured destruction.
My guess is that they will not go MAD and chose the second option. Putler as Krim has rightly pointed out by that stage will be in a no lose only choice position so will use the mini nukes and hope for the best. NATO by sitting on the sidelines before the invasion have already signalled their response well in advance - they are not involved and will not get involved. NATO are just interested in securing it's members security of which Ukraine never got to be signed up to. Sure NATO is tacitly supportive of Ukraine but Ukraine is not a member so they aren't willing to treat them as if they are.
I don't think it's 100 percent the outcome yet that Russia will use mini nukes. Other paths are conceivably open but I think the mini nuke option is a big likelihood. Ukraine & Russia could come to peace terms along present territory lines. Both are opposed to this at the moment as Ukraine wants all its territory back and for Russia is it enough as once Ukraine is signed up to NATO with NATO forces Russia cannot re-invade Ukraine. Russia could instead invade Georgia, the Stans, etc but little Putler had his heart set on capturing Odessa and the whole of Ukraine. My guess is Russia might possibly settle for what they have as they wanted a land bridge to Crimea, and the Donbass to break away from Ukraine. I think Ukraine will only sign up to such a deal if the west forces their hand by threatening to stop supplying Ukraine.
Other ways it could end is a Ukraine breakthrough in their Counter-offensive but that is looking more & more unlikely. They only have about a couple of months left before winter sets in which is likely to put pay to any further counterattack untill Spring. I think they would still be best off trying to counterattack in the winter if they can at all but their odds aren't likely good. Come next Spring and Russia will have likely reinforced their positions still further and bulked up their troops. Result a complete stalemate, Russia may get Belarus in to try and put pressure on Ukraine from the north but if Belarus can't get past Ukraine's defences their then we're back to the mini nuke option.
Other ways it could end is Russia falling apart economically and hence politically also. That could be a possibility with the economy being so bad in Russia and getting worse all the time. When the country starts falling apart people start constructing their own groups and power bases and breakaway from the existing system. We'll just have to see in that one but unless it happens suddenly it could push Putler closer to the mini nuke option.
I don't think the mini nuke option will take many females as it will be mostly Ukrainian soldiers, critical Infrastructure it will be aimed at like Krim states. Even with Ukrainian soldiers it won't be used to kill them all more tactically to break their lines and large group formations to crack the Ukrainian army so Russian forces can push through sending Ukrainian forces left into disarray, panic and headlong retreat. Of course after this the big downside is that Ukraine will be part of Russia so entry visa cost for us if westerners are still allowed to visit since use of mini nuke many western countries may block any tourism to Russia possibly. That's not a great outcome for us so I'm hoping that an alternative outcome though perhaps less likely where at least a large chunk of Ukraine survives will come about.
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Trench,
You can sit there and try and kid yourself that there will be no response from NATO if Russia uses a nuke...if it makes you feel better.
The reality is that NATO cannot possibly allow Russia to use a nuke without responding.
If they do,then it shows Russia that they can do as they please to whoever they want...so NATO cannot allow that to happen.
The civilized world cannot allow a rogue nation to dictate to the rest of the world how things will be by using nukes.
What would stop Russia or China invading Japan or China taking Taiwan...if NATO uses your reaction and says we won't do anything if Japan or Taiwan get nuked because they're not in NATO ?
Maybe Russia would fancy Australia and New Zealand too.
How about Russia threatening to nuke the whole of south and central America if they don't do whatever Russia desires...there goes Krims Puerto Rico fantasy,as the orcs take it over....whilst the USA says "they're not NATO countries so we won't do anything " Some nice Russian nuclear missile bases in Cuba right on the USA's doorstep.
Heck,Russia can just take over Mexico whilst the USA sit's on it's hands saying "not NATO so we mustn't get involved".
Putler would love a nuclear missile base ..his nukes pointed at the UK...in Ireland too.We won't prevent it because Ireland isn't in NATO.
Come on down Vlad..it's yours for the taking boyo.
Krim was adamant Russia would nuke Ukraine last autumn...so why didn't they ? It's been almost a year since then after all.
Russia keeps threatening NATO with escalation if red lines are crossed..so NATO gives them the finger and crosses those red lines....and nothing happens except for the normal firing of Russian missiles into Ukrainian civilians.
Russia is like you and Krim...full of bluster ..and that's because it has been made clear to Putler and his Kremlin regime exactly what is going to happen if Russia uses a nuke.
By the way i wasn't referring to Ukrainian women, or any women, when i said you won't have to worry about getting hold of a woman anymore if Russia uses a nuke.
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OMG! you mean no more Paul McCartney concerts in Moscow??!!
l'horreur!!
MAD is about symmetry
Russians are all about asymmetry
Ukraine cannot yet respond to such an attack
NATO will not reply in kind
attack was not on their territory, there won't be ANY support for this kind of escalation, or ANY escalation
Nato's threat to Russia over nukes is NOT real
at best, NATO will launch a limited attack on Russian airfields in Ukraine
and now that'll give Putin the excuse he needs to kick it up a notch
and put halters on every single Russian and have them pull barges on the Volga while humming a snappy little tune
and here, he'll gather the Oswalds amd Timothy McVeigh's
and turn his enemies against themselves
this plan is ALREADY underway, the Russians who are part of this plan
are ALREADY here on the east coast
Putina can absorb the small NATO response
and can easily reply to it
he holds the entire population of Ukraine as hostages
after the NATO attack, he'll punish Ukrainian civilians by nuking a small town
and tell NATO, every attack will cost a Ukrainian town
how many attacks after that?
this is what asymmetry means
Russians WILL kill civilains with nukes
but the west won't in this context
MAD does not apply here
in fact MAD prevents the west from using nukes
and the Russians have figured this all out
you Anglais need to understand
my visions are up for interpretation
sometimes the interpretation is mistranslated
for example, the visions I had of Moscva burning, I thought was related to Covid
turns out it wasn't...
GRU is switching from espionage to sabotage
just like the Chinese
the public isn't aware of the war that's ALREADY happening, on our own soil
Chinese focusing on west coast, russians on the east
they're NOT just stealing anymore
the change in mission has already happened...
here come the sharks....
after next year, Russian oligarchs won't be fighting over the spoils of Ukraine
they'll be fighting for their own future survival
when they are trapped like this
then you'll see what they are capable of
Puerto Rico?
no Costa Rica!
Puerto Rico is US territory with US laws
Costa Rica, has a "no extradition to the USA" policy
and I like it more than Brazil
it's a nice place, Russians gotta go through USA to get Los Latinos Americanos
Russia is already well connected to the cartels in central America, buying/selling weapons/narkotika
eventually, they'll "influence" them
into becoming part of the team....
how do I know?
Buenos días, muchachos!!!
hahaha
all the armies of the earth, are not as powerful as an idea whose time has come
and the plan to destigmatize the use of WMDs is gonna happen sooner than later
supporters of this are everywhere
in an artillery war, after Russia loses all it's artillery
WMDs are all it has left
the oligarchs ain't gonna hand over the keys
they'd rather drive the lada over the cliff
ergo, Ukraine is gonna get sued by the law firm of Nuke and Novichok
and the rest of ya'll are gonna STFU
WMDs ain't armageddon, especially leetle ones
they're the idea whose time has come
how long didja all think you could keep the jins in their prisons...
before somebody with absolutely nothin left to lose releases them?
once ya'll get over the shock, then you're gonna start thinking about how to gain advantage in the new world order
bottom line...
in the future, all militaries are scaled back, and small WMDs are routinely used in warfare
things tend to evolve towards efficiency
contrast the cost of one mini nuke and a robot vrs a divsion of conscripted soldiers
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It won't necessarily be NATO, but the USA at a minimum, will respond to a nuclear attack. The message is not just for Russia. What message is sent to Iran and North Korea if a nuclear attack is allowed to occur with no response.
I don't share krimster's view of Russia as some powerful force. It has used Western greed to its advantage, but I tend to believe most people, even politicians, can't be bought off if it's not in their ultimate interest.
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why do you think Russia has been transferring all it's nuclear technology to Iran and China in the first place?
when Russia makes their move, ya think Iran and China won't join in and make their moves, as well?
three acting jointly increases their strength compared to just one
USA no longer has the means for more than a short fight with just one enemy. they don't have the personnel or material to fight three simultaneously, and can't fight one, for more than a few weeks
the USA does not want to use tactical nukes, tried getting rid of them
Russians did the opposite they dominate this field the way the west dominates the economic field
they'll fight using the tools that give them the greatest advantage, nothing else they have gives them this kinda leverage
after next year, this is the ONLY option the oligarchs have to survive the crisis they created
there ain't gonna be no happy ending to this story
only the first chapter of Ukraine's suffering has been written
new chapters and volumes are coming from the same author
this is a brutal jungle fight, that will be fought to the "finish" between a predator and its prey
nature favors the predator
there's only gonna be one survivor here
when it's all over
i'm just a "friendly naturalist" tellin ya'll it like it is
nobody likes to see the cute little animals devoured by fierce beasts
but it happens
denial, ain't a river in egypt
ya'll need to face what's coming...
and not look away
and pretend that it's not
the thing that is NOT gonna happen
is for the oligarchs to give up
they're homocidal maniacs and not suicidal
they love themselves too much for that
killing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to maintain their privilige
is a virtue and not a sin to them
ain't no angels gonna stand in the way of the devils
gott is nicht mit uns
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Krim.
You're wrong...just as you was last summer about an impending nuclear attack on Ukraine in the fall....and now you're starting that nonsense again.
There will be no nuclear attack by Russia on Ukraine....unless Putler believes Russia is going to be invaded by Ukraine,and that won't happen .
The reason for that is because Putler and his regime is well aware of the consequences to Russia if they use a nuke.
The west will not allow a despotic regime to control the world by using nukes..end of.
The way you bluster anybody would think the USA,UK and France didn't have nukes too. :rolleyes:
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why do you think Russia has been transferring all it's nuclear technology to Iran and China in the first place?
when Russia makes their move, ya think Iran and China won't join in and make their moves, as well?
three acting jointly increases their strength compared to just one
USA no longer has the means for more than a short fight with just one enemy. they don't have the personnel or material to fight three simultaneously, and can't fight one, for more than a few weeks
the USA does not want to use tactical nukes, tried getting rid of them
Russians did the opposite they dominate this field the way the west dominates the economic field
they'll fight using the tools that give them the greatest advantage, nothing else they have gives them this kinda leverage
after next year, this is the ONLY option the oligarchs have to survive the crisis they created
there ain't gonna be no happy ending to this story
only the first chapter of Ukraine's suffering has been written
new chapters and volumes are coming from the same author
this is a brutal jungle fight, that will be fought to the "finish" between a predator and its prey
nature favors the predator
there's only gonna be one survivor here
when it's all over
i'm just a "friendly naturalist" tellin ya'll it like it is
nobody likes to see the cute little animals devoured by fierce beasts
but it happens
denial, ain't a river in egypt
ya'll need to face what's coming...
and not look away
and pretend that it's not
the thing that is NOT gonna happen
is for the oligarchs to give up
they're homocidal maniacs and not suicidal
they love themselves too much for that
killing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to maintain their privilige
is a virtue and not a sin to them
ain't no angels gonna stand in the way of the devils
gott is nicht mit uns
That's a great summery of the situation Krim :)
I don't think some realise the scope of Russia's ability for aggression. Some have gotten over confident of Ukraine's ability due to the early stage cock up by Russia and armed forces losses on Russia. They don't see though that those armed forces losses aren't war winning in themselves and that Russia is coming back strong with a much better strategic take this year and potentially for the years thereafter.
Here is an article on Ukraine's Counter-offensive so far which concurs with what I have been saying that they are not going to make it this year:
http://kyivindependent.com/washington-post-us-intelligence-thinks-ukraine-will-fail-to-reach-counteroffensives-key-goal/
Basically it's Ukraine that has messed up this year in being too cautious on troop losses and being too obvious on where they were going to counterattack. Not only that but they got overconfident that western tanks were going to be a war winner for them when they had already demonstrated to the Russians that tanks were of limited use in this conflict.
So some big mistakes by Ukraine this year which they can ill afford. Since like you say Russia is likely to hit back in subsequent years with mini nukes so Ukrainians can't afford for the conflict to still be ongoing heading into that territory.
So despite western military advice to attack with large forces across a large front Ukraine has muffed it up good and proper by being too cautious and attacking in small groups to minimise losses. This being war of course is a situation where sacrifices at times are needed and Ukraine balked on that one. So again using last year's strategy of minimising troop losses but not realising they needed to switch and ignoring their allies expertise on this.
I think Ukraine has become accustomed to putting the tab at the west's expense and so is playing it too cautious as we're footing the bill on this one. I definitely think western powers need to get in their and give the Ukrainian government a right kick up the arse on this one to get them to toe the line.
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the USA doesn't care about Ukraine's welfare
they only care about keeping Ukraine away from being re-absorbed by Russia, cuz it increases Russia's strength, making them that much harder to stop "next time"
all of America's "aid" is designed to keep Ukraine "independent of russia" and nothing more
there are no altruists in power here
this is real politik baby
so if I told ya in 1939, that Germany was gonna declare war on the USA real soon now
and 1940 rolled 'round and still no war with USA
would ya call that prediction "a fail"
I reckon ya would...
it's roughly 6 months until Putinas "election"
I don't quite understand the dynamics cuz it's so complicated with so many facets
n-body gravitational mechanics are WAY more complicated than just a 2-body one
but I do know that after the "election", Putina will seek "retribution"
and he'll have just a single means of achieving it
Russia will no longer have the conventional military equipment left
to make any further progress in Ukraine
then Putina will start "making the pitch" to the Russian people
that them no good nato lovin faschistas are comin to kidnap THEIR KIDS
AHHHH
and in the USA unleash a torrent of disinformatze
designed to reduce USA support
all big military decisions have a "political context"
nobody, and I mean nobody does a better job at political information manipulation than Russians
USA political decision makers will have to contend with declining public support for the ukrainian war, at a time when they're considering escalation
these politicians really only care about one thing
themselves
and if this decision isn't good for their political future
then they won't make it
and Putin will work very hard to convince them it's not gonna be in their best interest
ask Trump
"The reason for that is because Putler and his regime is well aware of the consequences to Russia if they use a nuke."
this is why China is pushing Putin into calling the West's bluff, and I know for a fact they're bluffing
there will be a token response, that will cease after Putin destroys a large Ukrainian town in retribution for the attack
and that's it...
remember Russia gave Syrians a Novichok factory, and when the syrians used it in a WMD, what was the US's response...
a stern letter
storms are comin
seek shelter
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Photo of a burning TU-22M3 Russian bomber after a drone strike on a military airfield in Siltsy,Novgorod region,Russia..
Training for Ukrainian fighter pilots and engineers on F-16's has now started.
Denmark and The Netherlands will be supplying 42 F-16's in the initial tranche once the training is completed...that will be in approx 6 months time.
Ukrainian pilots are also training on the Swedish Gripen JAS39 fighter jets.
Russia may well be losing all it's air cover in the not too distant future...ideal for nukes to strike if needed.
Maybe even pre-emptive strikes.
BOOM ! >:D
Moscow/Russia can't even protect itself from Drone strikes now.
That would make Krim and Trench spit out their coffee. ;D
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3-ftFeWAAAXQit?format=webp&name=small)
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WTF, you talkin about homey?
how well did London fare, in 1940?
did that determine the outcome of the war?
it didn't in asia
2 nuclear weapons did that...
you english speaking peoples, all wish to stick your heads in the sand
and kick dirt at those who don't
I get it, my family and their community suffered terribly in both world wars
both in Britain and USA
and so prefer to live in denial
that it can't "happen again, it just can't"
and the people who ARE gonna make it happen
are relying on you to do JUST THAT!
dat's OK
cuz while yur head is in the sand
your ass is in the air
and sure enuff, somebody gonna come along and kick it
don't say I didn't warn ya
I haz small tribal loyalty to Anglo Saxons
I tries to help 'em
but they always frustrate me
Russians, on the other hand, listen to me intensely
so I like Russians more than ya'll
but because I'm a nationalist
I care more about the people than the system and it's failed leadership
if this were 1905, there's be this MASSIVE underground movement in Russia for me to join
but there ain't one today
and that subject is itself worthy of reflection
why Russia hasn't had October 1917 already...
and under what conditions would it
and how close will they be to this threshold, say 2 yr from now
and without the "underground" who will the revolutionaries be?
this is why Maidan "triggered" Putin
Russia/Ukraine copy each other
cuz the kultura is pretty much the same
so ideas migrate easily 'cross the border
after Maidan, Putin thought
either I take Ukraine, or Maidan will take Russia
was he wrong?
IMHO, no he wasn't
he's postponed maidan
but hasn't canceled it yet
how many nukes will it take, how much prepping the public and foreign politicians?
to remove the maidan threat, once and for all
the answer my friend, is blowing in the wind
the answer is blowing in the wind
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(http://image.caglecartoons.com/277435/600/putins-medals.png)
(http://chappatte.com/sites/default/files/styles/dessins_small/public/2023-05/Sp230520ce-small.jpg?itok=F5MAovtq)
(http://chappatte.com/sites/default/files/styles/dessins_small/public/2023-02/BG230224c-small.jpg?itok=b0cApFyb)
(http://chappatte.com/sites/default/files/styles/dessins_small/public/2022-12/D221208ce-small.jpg?itok=c132yLw3)
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the USA doesn't care about Ukraine's welfare
they only care about keeping Ukraine away from being re-absorbed by Russia, cuz it increases Russia's strength, making them that much harder to stop "next time"
all of America's "aid" is designed to keep Ukraine "independent of russia" and nothing more
there are no altruists in power here
this is real politik baby
so if I told ya in 1939, that Germany was gonna declare war on the USA real soon now
and 1940 rolled 'round and still no war with USA
would ya call that prediction "a fail"
I reckon ya would...
it's roughly 6 months until Putinas "election"
I don't quite understand the dynamics cuz it's so complicated with so many facets
n-body gravitational mechanics are WAY more complicated than just a 2-body one
but I do know that after the "election", Putina will seek "retribution"
and he'll have just a single means of achieving it
Russia will no longer have the conventional military equipment left
to make any further progress in Ukraine
then Putina will start "making the pitch" to the Russian people
that them no good nato lovin faschistas are comin to kidnap THEIR KIDS
AHHHH
and in the USA unleash a torrent of disinformatze
designed to reduce USA support
all big military decisions have a "political context"
nobody, and I mean nobody does a better job at political information manipulation than Russians
USA political decision makers will have to contend with declining public support for the ukrainian war, at a time when they're considering escalation
these politicians really only care about one thing
themselves
and if this decision isn't good for their political future
then they won't make it
and Putin will work very hard to convince them it's not gonna be in their best interest
ask Trump
"The reason for that is because Putler and his regime is well aware of the consequences to Russia if they use a nuke."
this is why China is pushing Putin into calling the West's bluff, and I know for a fact they're bluffing
there will be a token response, that will cease after Putin destroys a large Ukrainian town in retribution for the attack
and that's it...
remember Russia gave Syrians a Novichok factory, and when the syrians used it in a WMD, what was the US's response...
a stern letter
storms are comin
seek shelter
Excellent analysis once again Krim! Yes, the rough time to when Russia uses mini nukes can likely be put down to when their military hardware reserves get depleted pretty low. Low enough like you say to make any advance a non starter without of course using mini nukes or similar.
Not a time one would wish to be in Ukraine that's for sure.
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your praise is like sweet music to my ears...
a contrarian view is that the worst time is ALWAYS the best time...
you get to experience a lot of emotions, yours and people around ya in war time
get an iphone cuz of the camera
my kids and I put on gas masks in Tel Aviv during the rocket sirens when they were little, I should post the pics...
if I am allowed the use of the "G" word I will, OTOH...
Trench, you might get lucky and capture an iconic image in Ukraine
and fame and fortune (and infinite pooty tang) will follow in it's wake
the closer you are to the war, the more likely you are to become it's witness. and dare I say even 'participant'
Trench, watch an American movie called "Hacksaw Ridge" and picture it near Kherson
do you see what i'm showing ya, or not?
Trench, you can choose that yur either gonna die a lonely old man with 100% certainty , vrs a small chance you gonna die in Ukraine making food delivery ambulance driving, etc
and Trench, you can be CERTAIN that this woman WILL have genuine feelings for you, if you treat her with GREAT tenderness
like seriously, I know how to coax kidneys out of Russian wimmin by just 'sweet talkin' 'em
you wouldn't be the first guy to luck into his good fortune
but don't look at it when it goes off
i've come close to dying, so many times
I have lost all fear of death
you really need to GTF outta your village Trench
you want me to inspire you?
OK?
finish your place ASAP, and the moment you do, rent it out and live with yur ma, and tell yur employer yur leavin for Ukraine as a relief volunteer
and go do it
when ya come back to the UK you will have a woman with ya, I guarantee it, or I'll refund ya 300% of what this advice cost ya
don't pick for looks, pick one who will work with ya and improve yur lives together
go and earn your karma trench
and surely only goodness will follow you
--or--
remain in your village, and keep watching porn FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!
think about that, next time you "do it"
oopsie! what happened to it??!!
on top of that, HTF do you even eat your own cooking and keep your house tidy?
hmmmm, you only clean up when someone comes over, you think we don't ALL know this about you?
what brand of cardboard microwave oven frozen food do you prefer? Sainsbury?
yeah Trench, I can see why ya wouldn't wanna do anything to risk a swell life like that!
my bad!!!
and Jezzz louise
and it's only a 4.5 hr flight for you to...
I used to commute half that time, every single day
and never once grumbled about it
because I'm a mean, lean, fightin machine
and you one of them polite, soft spoken, english fellers
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your praise is like sweet music to my ears...
a contrarian view is that the worst time is ALWAYS the best time...
you get to experience a lot of emotions, yours and people around ya in war time
get an iphone cuz of the camera
my kids and I put on gas masks in Tel Aviv during the rocket sirens when they were little, I should post the pics...
if I am allowed the use of the "G" word I will, OTOH...
Trench, you might get lucky and capture an iconic image in Ukraine
and fame and fortune (and infinite pooty tang) will follow in it's wake
the closer you are to the war, the more likely you are to become it's witness. and dare I say even 'participant'
Trench, watch an American movie called "Hacksaw Ridge" and picture it near Kherson
do you see what i'm showing ya, or not?
Trench, you can choose that yur either gonna die a lonely old man with 100% certainty , vrs a small chance you gonna die in Ukraine making food delivery ambulance driving, etc
and Trench, you can be CERTAIN that this woman WILL have genuine feelings for you, if you treat her with GREAT tenderness
like seriously, I know how to coax kidneys out of Russian wimmin by just 'sweet talkin' 'em
you wouldn't be the first guy to luck into his good fortune
but don't look at it when it goes off
i've come close to dying, so many times
I have lost all fear of death
you really need to GTF outta your village Trench
you want me to inspire you?
OK?
finish your place ASAP, and the moment you do, rent it out and live with yur ma, and tell yur employer yur leavin for Ukraine as a relief volunteer
and go do it
when ya come back to the UK you will have a woman with ya, I guarantee it, or I'll refund ya 300% of what this advice cost ya
don't pick for looks, pick one who will work with ya and improve yur lives together
go and earn your karma trench
and surely only goodness will follow you
--or--
remain in your village, and keep watching porn FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!
think about that, next time you "do it"
on top of that, HTF do you even eat your own cooking and keep your house tidy?
hmmmm, you only clean up when someone comes over, you think we don't ALL know this about you?
what brand of cardboard microwave oven frozen food do you prefer? Sainsbury?
yeah Trench, I can see why ya wouldn't wanna do anything to risk a swell life like that!
my bad!!!
Funny you mention 'Hacksaw Ridge' & Kherson. Kherson girl wrote that she watched Hacksaw Ridge in one of her early letters to me. I doubt it though didn't fit her girliness, think she was using a few off the peg template letters, but she wrote back to some of my questions, at least it may have been her lol.
At the moment there is this girl, she's only 19ish I think. Something about her just kind of connects with me, not sure what, she's pretty enough but it's not quite that. Usually UK girls I'm not too bothered about and girls that young. Just kind of feels like she fits kind off but maybe my imagination is running away with me. She's seems different in some ways, prettyish but not quite the usually personality that seems to often come with that. My mind tells me I want her and she wants me but it's complicated and probably me being a bit shot away who knows. Not much I can do as things stand as far as I can see, so will just see on that one.
Other than that yeah will just have to see how things go after finishing of the house. Getting to close to war could make me a victim as much as anything else so I'm not that eager. Would rather try a non war zone like Moldova first she what girls might crop up there. Your ideas are interesting though.
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I hear the meadow larks whistling above...
Trench...
Trench...
Trench is in LOVE
and...
this is "where the story ends"
it's just a little souvineer of a terrible year...
tis just 4 months to christmas mate
meet this girl then, not at all too early to talk about and plan,
tell her how much you just wanna help the people of Ukraine
and are plannin on volunteering
ok...
19 yr old ukrainian girls, are the sweetest thing you'll EVER see in your entire phuquing life
but NOOOOOO.....
you wanna spend christmas with yo mommy and eat that welsh puddin and rarebit doncha?
and then after the holidayz go back to eaten them frozen meat pies
WE KNOW!!!!
what destiny are ya gonna choose Trench?
you can make the choice tomorrow if you want
or you can wait, the rest of your life
and NEVER make it
at the VERY least pursue christmas with this future intention
that puddin is just like what ya had last year, and the year before, and the year before that
you ain't NEVER in your whole life seen 19 yr old red snapper
ok....
so enjoy your puddin Trench
Have yourself a very Merry Christmas
but thinka the present you coulda unwrapped
instead of socks and underwear from your mom
PS
da, in addition to the 100 million USD Tu-22M3 loss
a 500 million USD space probe designed to boost Russian morale
instead crashed into the moon and lowered it
you can feel the anxiety on the street in Moscow
a sharp increase in every kinda violence
you better not display "stupid foreigner face" on the street at night
under them bright sodium lights
I know the photo apparat locations and used that route
if I had to go out and "do bizness"
I have the most amazing Israeli technology for altering my facial appearance
and can skip through all Russian facial recognition systems
or not, depending...
consistant inconstinancy equals the ability to deny accusations and supply positive evidence
while denying negative evidence, saying I was "setup"
and then have a 3rd party supply them with the "evidence" that proves your story...
then depending on your job title, you may be asked to "do favors"
if you are somebody with a lotta useful technical and magerial skills or in some cases linguistic skills
and you got some kinda even mid-level flow with ladies
and on top of that are able to figure out out a money making business in Kazakhstan, etc (check out gem stones, get GIA certified!)
some kinda import/export
easy, PZ stuff
after ya got this, and your russian bizness cards
the hands down best way to operate in Russia
is to know who the mob families are and where they hang out socially
believe it or not all this info is published on-line, I have an old copy
its 100s of pages
go to these places and meet a woman, don't matter a'tall what she looks like
it only matters if you can apprentice under her father,
and how useful your talents and passport will be to him
and you swear your loyalty to him, by saying if he ever needs help with any 'kind of problem' he can call you 24/7
and when he tells ya to shoot, YOU SHOOT!!!
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-dam-bursts-washing-away-railroad-economy-to-lose-billions/ar-AA1fwMp3?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e8efd3ed905d4346a5442171fa5dcc83&ei=19
2nd collapsed dam in Russia in just the last week....
ya think anyone's gonna look at all the rest of them crackin dams?
with WHAT budget and people, may I ask?
all that's either in some offshore account, or at the front,
workin on the special "Merger and Acquisition" of Ukraine
this is how Russians do "bizness"
now China and Russia are makin their move together in Nicaragua
sure you dumb gringos go and build your freakin wall
so ya'll can keep thinkin that you're better than everybody else
ya'll gonna be facing three great tyrannies:
warlord kings
the morbidly rich keeping average people in squalor and ignorance while making themselves richer and more powerful
violence-enforced theocracies.
how many of ya'll will be fighting back I wonder?
sheeeeeet, ya'll kiddin me?
ya'll couldn't even handle puttin on a mask during a plague
you gonna launch WWIII over Ukraine?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
russians will all retreat into their dungeon of drunkeness
most of ya'll will do your own version
few of ya'll realize that an historical inflection point is on the horizon
there WILL be blood
little tiny signs of this are EVERYWHERE
ok BEEL,
my crazy business idea:
Luft Waffles
catchy, isn't it...
PostScript
ukrainian drones flew unimpeded all the way to Moscva (750 km)
shut down all airport traffic at all airports in Moscow causing massive flight diversions, delays
and exploded on the ulitsya next to that Suka on Kremlin TV
Russians of course blew up an orthodox church in chernigov and killed a little 6 yr old kid
there ain't really no difference except for quantity for blowing up little kids
with chemical explosives, whose energy is dervived from the re-arrangement in electrons that produces 1 or 2 electron volts
and fer a neutron explosive, where the energy level is 200 million electron volts
it's just bigger
I promise ya'll bog will not be any more pissed at ya fer killin kids with neutrons rather than with electrons
if you in for a kopec, ya might as well be in for a Ruble
n'est pas mes amis?
i'm just playin the devil's advocate
pro bono, of course
but, if this is the hand that's being dealt to you next year
how many ukrainian towns full of Ukrainain children are you willing to shove "into the pot"
before these losses start mounting and you decide to fold?
my Russian focus group, would like to know what your feelings are on this...
it's a kinda predictive analysis
spossiba
the best way to deceive others about themselves is to tell them the truth about yourself
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-dam-bursts-washing-away-railroad-economy-to-lose-billions/ar-AA1fwMp3?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e8efd3ed905d4346a5442171fa5dcc83&ei=19
2nd collapsed dam in Russia in just the last week....
ya think anyone's gonna look at all the rest of them crackin dams?
with WHAT budget and people, may I ask?
all that's either in some offshore account, or at the front,
workin on the special "Merger and Acquisition" of Ukraine
this is how Russians do "bizness"
Damn lol.
See the Russian Rouble is on a pretty much downward trajectory against the British Pound and the US Dollar etc since the war began even now. So it looks like things are going to get increasingly worse for Russians inside Russia. Would have thought can only get so bad and then the system all cracks up. With Dams going adding to the economic mess that's only going to make more things worse. If the infrastructure breaks down then it's even more difficult for the economy to function. So again another matter that will push our Putler towards mini nukes at some point in the near future.
Any update from those you know in Russia or Ukraine on the present situation out there Krim?
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the middle-aged men of the village of "Rancho Del Krim"
are fightin in Zaporizhzhia, they all have gray beards and look like chechens
each little clique of dewds will have a cat, usually a small scrawny, dirty one
(do not EVER touch a "soldatskaya koshka" or you will freakin die a horrible death - SLOVO!)
they have "state-of-the-art" firearms, even look new, but their appearance, is not like they're part of a professional army
they look more like "partisans"
their attire would never pass in USA or Israel armed forces, they'd consider it a HUGE lack of discipline
eta horrosho in Ruzzia
it ain't an army, it's an armed nationalistic mob of mercenaries (army = 5X salary of gopnick, and HaHa it's just "paper" the gummit prints...HaHa)
Render unto Putin, the things that are Putin's
Here Putin, take all of this paper!
wimmin folk, holding down the fort in crimea, tryin to survive the crashing ecomomy
50% yr inflation, no tourism, no agriculture, they hear explosions every other day now
and they gotta live with the daily stress of whether their huband/kid is gonna get killed
every Russian woman fears the mailbox and the phone or worse a knock on the door
men are discouraged from talkin to family about the war
village has spies who will rat out what soldiers are cryin to their families
and report em for discipline
the russian army is just another kind of Russian Gulag, you're a prisoner, not a hero of the russian people in pursuit of "glory"
in russia you leave one prison only to enter another one
100% Russia is gonna go nuclear either next yr or the yr after
and after they do, they're gonna say, "but we TOLD YOU we would, and you ignored it, so this is YOUR fault!
I see it...
but, i'm just a simple country boy
who stands at the edge
and isn't afriad to look below
once more picture of afore mentioned crimean labor village for agricultural workers created in Soviet time
from the south, facing north
this was my turf
a rambling collection of hillbilly shacks
it was a freakin paradise
Putin phuqued it up for me
and phuqued up all my plans in the far east as well
and even for my kid to go to school there
but instead of feeling like I've "lost something"
I feel like I've gained something, cuz I'm like a"coach" to two younger Russian guys now...
and they treat me like I'm their dad
all of you who reject the idea of the coming use of nuclear weapons in ukraine
do so, on the basis of "deterence"
and say, look this system has worked for 75 yr!
and don't realize how context changes the rules
ya'll never planned WTF to do, if Russia nukes Odesa
only if they nuked Ohio or Oslo
WTF, would Russians nuke Odesa?
hmmmm hmmmmm
bigger question, WTF are YOU gonna DO????
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I reckon Krim and his acolyte Trench will still be blustering away about nukes being used on Ukraine by Russia in two years time.
"I'm telling youse....Russia is gonna nuke Ukraine shortly..you'll see " :rolleyes:
Meanwhile in the real world orc mobiks are reporting that on the metro in Moscow,Muscovites look at them in uniform,move away and say to them "Ewww murderers".
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Oh Chelseaboy, you look just "darling" sweetheart in that blue and gold cheerleading costume, you are SUCH a flirt!
the legs are a bit hairy, but not bad...
the only losers there will be for certain, will be the "average" people on both sides
and the only winners, the oligarchs on both sides
at worse, yur fightin over which group of former soviet apparachiks should control ukraine
yeah, makes a whole hell of a lot of difference who that is, to a guy who only makes $200 USD/month
totally see why a half million killed and seriously wounded so far with no end in sight to get that "political uncertainty" outta the way, if that's not worth at least a million lives and a Trillion dollars, then honestly, I don't know what would!
Humpf!!!
can't WE ALL just GET ALONG?
Putin almost "had it" 10 yr ago with the Customs Union of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Russia and was 90% of the way to adding Ukraine
had he done so, and then taken the next step, which was to just loan Ukraine a lot of money it could never pay back, so they'd put a lien on the whole damn country and steal everything legally
and HE ALMOST DID IT!!!
but then, it's like the tide had come all the way in
and then it stopped, and reversed course, and it keeps receding
and ain't stopped yet
Chelsea boy, you come near me and I will scratch your eyes out, bitch
uhhhmmmm, you heard me
you want exact date for something?
OK
August 24
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I reckon Krim and his acolyte Trench will still be blustering away about nukes being used on Ukraine by Russia in two years time.
"I'm telling youse....Russia is gonna nuke Ukraine shortly..you'll see " :rolleyes:
Meanwhile in the real world orc mobiks are reporting that on the metro in Moscow,Muscovites look at them in uniform,move away and say to them "Ewww murderers".
There's possibly an outside chance if Russia falls apart quickly we may avoid them nuking Ukraine. The economy is getting into a dire state out there as the rouble is crashing through the floor and inflation takes hold. If it falls apart so quick that Putler and his cronies can't respond to the situation and left powerless then it might be avoided that way.
Other way is if Russia & Ukraine agree to Russia roughly annexing the present territory while Ukraine joins NATO. Such a peace treaty would avoid nukes but it's difficult to see either side agreeing, not impossible but difficult, probably difficult enough that it's unlikely to happen.
So yeah I agree with Krim that mini nuking Ukraine is the most likely situation unfortunately. Both Russia running out of armaments and a need for an end to the conflict before Russia's economy totally fails.
If Putler's back is to the wall like that then he is out of all other options he will have to go with the mini nuke option. Not doing so would be the end of him and his oligarch supporters would not allow that nir I doubt he would so it will be seen as the only logical and successful way out of the situation never mind what the rest of the world thinks they don't feature in the equation.
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Meanwhile in the real world orc mobiks are reporting that on the metro in Moscow,Muscovites look at them in uniform,move away and say to them "Ewww murderers".
I can believe some move away. However let’s not lose sight of the fact that the majority of Russians support the war. Also, there would be consequences to denigrating soldiers. Probably a jail sentence.
This article suggests that Ukraine has destroyed several planes, launching drones from inside Russia. If the link doesn’t have a token let me know and I will provide an alternate source -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/22/five-jets-blown-up-three-days-inside-russia-ukraine-mod/
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We have a defection story today.
A Russian pilot of a Mi-8AMTSH defected with his helicopter to Ukraine a few weeks ago.The chopper was transporting spare parts for SU-27 and SU-30M fighter jets.The operation was coordinated with the Ukrainian intelligence.The other two crew members of the Mi-8 were killed after the chopper landed somewhere in Kharkiv.The family of the Russian pilot was brought to safety.
Chopper and spare parts now in possession of the Ukrainian forces.
Source ( Ukrainian) of story and pictures.
pravda.com.ua/news/2023/08/2.
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love is like a cruise missile flyin over your head
if one ever hit ya, your lonliness would be dead
the deepest irony is where the world will drown itself
The biggest change over the last three decades in Russia nad the USA that feed the insecurities and resentments of the working class — has nothing to do with western “woke”ism, .
It has directly to do with a huge shift in the distribution of income and wealth.
and those who received the majority of the wealth,
are using their wealth and power to get the state to act in their interest, instead of the interest of the working class
the oligarchs will control the media for the working class, to make sure the only information they receive is information the oligarchs create for them
look how well it works
American oligarchs got a 1,000 trump supporters to go to prison for Trump's coup
Russian oligarchs got hundreds of thousands of Russians to die in Ukraine to support their "merger and acquisition", I guess you can call this a "hostile take over"
sheep only get led to the slaughterhouse
Nietzsche was right about humans being a "herd animal"
almost all the great things that were created by humans
were all done by individuals who weren't "part of the herd"
without them, we'd all be livin like superstitious southerners in Mississippi but without electricity
moonshine and watermelon rine
and dusky native girls workin in the fields
but I hear screaming, bull whips cracking
how long, how long
russian and amerikan elites
created a slave society for the masters
what happens, when slave societies fight a losing war, after it ends in defeat?
oopsie!
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Prigozhin allegedly was killed today. His private plane was shot down over Tver. His name was on the passenger list of the seven, nine, or ten (depending on the report) people onboard.
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Yevgeny Prigozhin listed as passenger on plane which crashed with no survivors, Russian aviation authority says
Reuters has reported that the Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin was listed as a passenger on a private jet which crashed north of Moscow on Wednesday, the TASS news agency reported, citing Rosaviatsia, Russia’s aviation authority.
“An investigation has been launched into the Embraer plane crash that occurred tonight in the Tver region. According to the passenger list, among them is the name and surname of Yevgeny Prigozhin,” Rosaviatsia said.
Earlier TASS had reported that ten people had died after a private jet crashed in Russia’s Tver region north of Moscow. The jet, en route from Moscow to St Petersburg, was carrying seven passengers and three crew.
AP confirms story.
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Russia has removed Sergei Surovikin, nicknamed "General Armageddon", as head of the air force after he vanished from public view during a Wagner mercenary mutiny against the top army brass, two Russian news outlets reported on Wednesday.
A recipient of Russia's top military award, Surovikin is the most senior Russian military figure to lose his job over the June 23-34 mutiny, which President Vladimir Putin said could have tipped Russia into civil war.
Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, who spearheaded the revolt, remains free and on Monday posted a video address which he suggested was shot in Africa. The two men Prigozhin had wanted to topple - Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and Valery Gerasimov, chief of general staff - remain in their posts.
Once commander of Russia's overall war effort in Ukraine when he was lauded by Russian and Western military experts as one of its most effective operators, Surovikin has not yet been publicly fired.
However, Russian state news agency RIA cited an unnamed but "informed" source as saying: "Ex-chief of the Russian Air and Space Forces Sergei Surovikin has now been relieved of his post, while Colonel-General Viktor Afzalov, head of the main staff of the Air Force, is temporarily acting as commander-in-chief of the Air Force".
The RBC news outlet - citing two unnamed sources familiar with the situation - also reported that Surovikin had been removed from his post.
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-appoints-new-aerospace-forces-chief-after-incumbent-vanished-during-2023-08-23/
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Sky News says Prigozhin was on the passenger list of the crashed plane and that ten people were on board.
However,latest report from Russian news agencies is that eight bodies have been found.
Hmmm
Wonder if Prigozhin is one of the missing bodies ?
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Apparently it looks like he was:
Via Euronews: Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin reportedly killed in plane crash en route from Moscow
http://www.euronews.com/2023/08/23/wagner-mercenary-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-killed-in-plane-crash
Looks like the Kremlin got to him and knocked him off as I said they would. Silly off him aborting the coup and going for a 'deal' lol. Knew how that one would end better to just take your chances in that situation once the ball is in play.
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Apparently it looks like he was:
Via Euronews: Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin reportedly killed in plane crash en route from Moscow
http://www.euronews.com/2023/08/23/wagner-mercenary-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-killed-in-plane-crash (http://www.euronews.com/2023/08/23/wagner-mercenary-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-killed-in-plane-crash)
Looks like the Kremlin got to him and knocked him off as I said they would. Silly off him aborting the coup and going for a 'deal' lol. Knew how that one would end better to just take your chances in that situation once the ball is in play.
Only eight bodies recovered out of the ten listed as being on board though.
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If Prigozhin is confirmed dead,seems the orc military is not going to take the news very well at all..going by their telegram channels.
The Wagnerites in Syria are going mental . >:D
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The two missing persons stepped out of the plane for a smoke and avoided the crash.
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The two missing persons stepped out of the plane for a smoke and avoided the crash.
Those must have been mighty big steps.
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a bad week for aviation in russia
ah wonder what else might happen this week...
putin will drive more
but not over bridges!
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If Prigozhin is confirmed dead,seems the orc military is not going to take the news very well at all..going by their telegram channels.
The Wagnerites in Syria are going mental . >:D
Pretty much so, they're aviation authority is now confirming he was on board:
http://edition.cnn.com/webview/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-08-23-23?adobe_mc
Probably a sabotage job or something like that.
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The plot thickens.
A second Prigozhin-owned private jet ,which was accompanying the one that crashed,has landed in Moscow.
Putler's motorcade,flanked by many police cars,filmed racing through the streets of Moscow heading for the Kremlin tonight.
Meanwhile Wagner soldiers in Belarus release a statement.
"There's a lot of talk right now about what the Wagner Group will do.We can tell you one thing.We are getting started,get ready for us."
Of course there are nukes in Belarus now. >:D
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The plot thickens.
A second Prigozhin-owned private jet ,which was accompanying the one that crashed,has landed in Moscow.
Putler's motorcade,flanked by many police cars,filmed racing through the streets of Moscow heading for the Kremlin tonight.
Meanwhile Wagner soldiers in Belarus release a statement.
"There's a lot of talk right now about what the Wagner Group will do.We can tell you one thing.We are getting started,get ready for us."
Of course there are nukes in Belarus now. >:D
Not a bad article on the situation here:
http://news.italy24.press/trends/804227.html
Prigozhin was stupid firstly in not going all the way with the coup and secondly by not laying low and out of sight by taking no obvious risks such as this. Prigozhin acted in a callous way to the recruits he got from the prisons yet I think many saw him more capable a military leader than Gerasimov, Shoigu and some others. So possible threat from Wagner if they don't break up and possibly even elements of the army some who may have been sympathetic to Prigozhin. That or possible loss of morale in the Russian Army. Before this happened there were reports of several hundred mercenaries going missing in Belarus without Belarus or Russia being sure where they had gone, so a possible threat.
All depends what happens from here, either a fizzling out of Wagner or some sort of action. Odds are apart from Russia trying to absorb Wagner fighters into the Russian Army if it can odds are we have probably seen the end of Wagner on the battlefield in Ukraine, possibly the end of Wagner itself.
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Budanov has now confirmed the defection story i posted on here previously.
He told Radio Svoboda the details of the operation.
They "found the right approach to the pilot,created conditions to secretly evacuate his entire family ,and ultimately made it so that he could move this helicopter with a crew that had no idea what was happening ".
Besides the pilot there were two other people on board.When they realized where they landed they tried to flee.
"Unfortunately they were eliminated.We would have liked to take them alive,but it is what it is.The pilot is feeling great,he's doing well ."
The helicopter is currently in Kyiv,and no-one is holding the pilot behind bars.
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GUR Airborne forces have landed in Crimea.
GUR units have today made a landing in Crimea as part of a special operation on the Cape Tarkhankut -confirmed GUR representative Yusov.
According to him all tasks within the special operation were completed.Notably this is the very cape where the S-400 was destroyed yesterday.
Orcs are already complaining that "nobody was destroyed and the Ukrainian saboteurs left without losses . "
Media reported that since 5 in the morning ,near the settlement of Mayak on the Cape Tarkhankut ,explosions could be heard. In the village of Mayak is the base of the 3rd Radio Technical Regiment.Also on the Tarkanhut peninsular is the Radar node RLK "Sky-M"and RLS "Kasta-2E2".
Russians are writing about ten Ukrainian saboteurs who arrived in boats and opened fire.
There are no losses amomg the GUR personnel ,but there are losses among the orcs personnel,as well as it's forces and means.
Meanwhile the special operation continues-Yusov.
Good to know the UK Royal Marines training of Ukrainian troops is being put to good use. ;D
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"We have the ability to hit any part of temporarily occupied Crimea as of now.We can reach the enemy at absolutely any point.Those who have done stupid things,it is better for them to leave ",head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanov said in a statement.
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verily, for it is written,
that those who live by the sledge hammer
will also die by the sledge hammer
you can deny the coming calamities
but they're gonna come anyway
the difference is, YOU won't be prepared
and those who understand, will be
Wagner's 2nd in command body confirmed by his "Nazi tattoos" LOL
I guess it takes one nazi to fight another one...
so in order to prevent maidan from happening in Russia
and secure more riches for the oligarchs
Putin's efforts have instead created the ideal conditions for Maidan to happen in Russia
and the potential for oligarchs to lose their riches
putin is an arsonist, who has accidentally set fire to himself, while trying to burn down his neighbor's house to steal their property and kidnap their children
when protest is outlawed
only outlaws will protest
in outlaw style
when the cauldron is heated enuff and starts to boil
it just takes a little spark to catalyze the reaction
Maidan was launched in kyiv with a single tweet
seeing this possibility crawl towards reality
and based on what pretty much the entire population of russia is feeling and experiencing
selling the idea of nukes to the russian people
will be not a problem, as long as it's presented as "The Final Solution" for the Ukrainian "Problem"
dey's gonna be leetle tiny nukes
ain't no need to go all "strategic" forces, yada, yada, launch the minuteman! no, no, Russia is gonna "soft sell" those leetle nukes
the usa no longer has a tactical nuke strategy
Russia ALWAYS did
'tis but another idea, one of many, whose time is approaching
Biden's strategy is to ensure minimum risk to the USA
he ain't gonna use nukes in response
and whatever military action he does commit to
will end after Russia blames the attack on Ukrainians as well as NATO
and putin uses another mini nuke on a ukrainian civilian target as a reprisal for NATO's viloation of Russian territorial integrity
and tells NATO, this is tit-for-tat from now on
so go ahead and cry "havoc" and let slip the dogs of war
that sword cuts both ways
and the Russian side of the blade is MUCH sharper thatn Ukraine/NATO's side
it's like the Mexican "New Generation Cartel" who likes to slaughter whole bus loads of locals who don't bow deeply enough
vrs Barney Fife and Andy
Cartels don't play by "Mayberry" rules!
don't matter if they is Mexican or Russian
Russians consider me a "tekhnical" and not a "politikal"
the distinction is irrelevant
cuz they're actually both math based
and I'm REAL GOOD at math
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verily, for it is written,
that those who live by the sledge hammer
will also die by the sledge hammer
you can deny the coming calamities
but they're gonna come anyway
the difference is, YOU won't be prepared
and those who understand, will be
Wagner's 2nd in command body confirmed by his "Nazi tattoos" LOL
I guess it takes one nazi to fight another one...
so in order to prevent maidan from happening in Russia
and secure more riches for the oligarchs
Putin's efforts have instead created the ideal conditions for Maidan to happen in Russia
and the potential for oligarchs to lose their riches, and just be ordinary Russians
a prospect that terrifies them all
when protest is outlawed
only outlaws will protest
when the cauldron is heated enuff and starts to boil
it just takes a little spark to catalyze the reaction
Maidan was launched in kyiv with a single tweet
seeing this possibility crawl towards reality
and based on what pretty much the entire population of russia is feeling and experiencing
selling the idea of nukes to the russian people
will be not a problem
dey's gonna be leetle tiny nukes
ain't no need to go all "strategic" forces, yada, yada, launch the minuteman! no, no, Russia is gonna "soft sell" those leetle nukes
the usa no longer has a tactical nuke strategy
Russia ALWAYS did
'tis but another idea, one of many, whose time is approaching
Biden's strategy is to ensure minimum risk to the USA
he ain't gonna use nukes in response
and whatever military action he does commit to
will end after Russia blames the attack on Ukrainians as well as NATO
and putin uses another mini nuke on a ukrainian civilian target as a reprisal for NATO's viloation of Russian territorial integrity
and tells NATO, this is tit-for-tat from now on
so go ahead and cry "havoc" and let slip the dogs of war
that sword cuts both ways
and the Russian side of the blade is MUCH sharper thatn Ukraine/NATO's side
it's like the Mexican "New Generation Cartel" who likes to slaughter whole bus loads of locals who don't bow deeply enough
vrs Barney Fife and Andy
Cartels don't play by "Mayberry" rules!
don't matter if they is Mexican or Russian
Presumably Putler can use the same technique to gain control of Moldova, Georgia and the Stans. Either they agree to join the Russian Federation or it's mini nukes followed up by Russian Army invasion. I wouldn't like to be a non-nuclear, non-NATO member in this day and age. Shame Ukraine decided to foolishly give up it's nukes it would be in a state of peace and tranquility if it had not.
Potential for NATO to extend membership to Moldova, Georgia and even the Stans while there is still time if it wanted to but doesn't look like it does.
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if it were up to me
i'd allow American pilots who want to be highly paid "volunteers" fly for Ukraine in American F-16s, A-10s etc, as "Flying Tigers" circa WWII with China
technically, it is illegal for them to do so now...and the pilots are motivated by big $$$ that ukraine really can't afford, we could change that in an hour
Russia STILL has a MASSIVE wealth outflow to the west, to escape the economic/currency problems at home, in the past yr, there was over a 200 billion USD outflow
every bit of this money is oligarch money
the West should get a giant forensics accounting team together
and I'd grab every single cent, and put it into a trust for the people of Ukraine
and that'll have a bigger effect on the war, than 100 F-16s piloted by Tom Cruise
but western banks have prevented ya from doin that
they're lookin after their client's money with the appropriate fiduciary responsibility
banks ALL LOVE CARTELS!!!
so Trench-foot,
have ya thought about the idea of hitting the "reset button" on your life
and make one final attempt at finding your good fortune...
through the process of "personal redemption" through selfless sacrifice for others
nudge...nudge...wink...wink...
taking off 6 months to a yr to "serve" in Ukraine
won't cost ya much, while you're renting out your place
you'll live "rough" in Ukraine
get your own koshka, it'll look good on your Utube channel
englishman and cat deliver food and medicine
awwwwww. so cute
then when ya return to "jolly ole..."
you haz woman, with some kinda professional skill
and you has small income from property
ain't nothin preventing you from moving to greener pasture
than your village
nothin tying you there
two of you will be job seekers in London
i'd imagine, that after a year there, the two of you together will have about 3X the income compared to when you were working in yo mama's village
but that'd be an awful lot of work...
you'll think about it tomorrow...
putin has a diminishing possibility of once more assisting Trump into the white house...
this decreasing probability, means he can't rely on it
OTOH, he'd prefer this approach to a plutonium one
depending on the probability of success he may wait to use the nuke until after the election
OTOH, the ideal time, would be right BEFORE the election
and give Trump a carefully written/rehearsed speech beforehand, a la Manchurian candidate
and conspire to DO BOTH!!!! hard to predict which'd be more damaging to the west, nuke or trump
what a coup that' be
a crazy plot worthy off a spy novel
but it was in 2016 as well
would Biden commit to a military escalation course of action, right before the election?
I reckon it depends what the polls say
so Russia will target public support in the disinformatze space
i'd like to see the russian focus group analysis and projected poll numbers for this
I hope it's not Deripaska doing this again
who's gonna run the Internet Research Agency now...
twitter/musk is pro-oligarch, so that'll be one of the main conduits
and Tucker Carlson
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so Trench-foot,
have ya thought about the idea of hitting the "reset button" on your life
and make one final attempt at finding your good fortune...
through the process of "personal redemption" through selfless sacrifice for others
nudge...nudge...wink...wink...
taking off 6 months to a yr to "serve" in Ukraine
won't cost ya much, while you're renting out your place
you'll live "rough" in Ukraine
get your own koshka, it'll look good on your Utube channel
englishman and cat deliver food and medicine
awwwwww. so cute
then when ya return to "jolly ole..."
you haz woman, with some kinda professional skill
and you has small income from property
ain't nothin preventing you from moving to greener pasture
than your village
nothin tying you there
two of you will be job seekers in London
i'd imagine, that after a year there, the two of you together will have about 3X the income compared to when you were working in yo mama's village
but that'd be an awful lot of work...
you'll think about it tomorrow...
Was thinking about it last night, not Ukraine but Moldova. The house is taking longer than expected as usual. It's getting there and is mostly down to small jobs but every job seems to take longer than hoped. Ukraine would mean finishing the house first and while I should definitely be done before Christmas it's like I say still running on. A lot of the issue is I can't get more than a few days each week to work at it as have to do my job as well to bring the money in to pay for it all. Time over again I would have just done a quicker conversion job, it would bring in less money monthly) smaller rooms no ensuite toilets) but I would have been done in about a year. Still it will look nicer and better when done and something that should be easier to rely upon for money and build upon by eventually having my hands free from having to work for an Employer.
Issues remain at present beyond the house thing. I still wouldn't be seen as all that wealthy in comparison to some in the UK and while I don't want a woman on the basis of that it can be a bit of a thorn in the side. I mean in time I will able to be able to afford a better car so it won't show as easily at the moment my car is kind of an aging supermini in not too great looking shape but it serves purpose of getting me around while I don't have any money to get something better. Once the house is done I can get something better so that will look better. At the moment it probably only serves as an illustration of where I'm at financially to women. It's kind of funny how many women will take a guy's job, car he drives and peg him based on that (possibly clothes also) when he could in fact be doing quite a lot better for himself than they think. A lot of jobs in the UK you get much the same no matter what you do but women still use the old fashioned job status method in their workings.
So frustrating at the moment. Just trying to work something out. I could get out to Moldova for a few days, price has gone up a bit as Wizz Air have stopped flying there and the other airlines are a bit more so it looks like the price including hotel will be about £500 or so. Then cost of getting to the airport, parking, money to spend while out there so I would guess at £700-800 for about three full days out there. So it's something I've got to weigh up a bit. Time doesn't seem to be on my side as only so long before Ukraine and probably Moldova following it go. That would then take the easy options (at least as they once were) of the table and leave me with Russia (visa), Belarus (long flight around) possibly Georgia (depending how long for & religious) and then the Stans left. So potentially the good easy times of going out to Ukraine gone if things go the way we think they are going to go.
Perhaps I should have learned Spanish ::)
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soft spoken English gentleman will have a hard time with Latinas and Latins, i'd recommend them europeans for you Anglos
it's like the difference between europan honey bees and african killer honey bees
just would't recommend latinas for ya, they are VOLATILE and won't mix well with someone more "reserved"
but you could have a good travel adventure and a LOT of fun there
so the answer is NO to you trying to break out of your rut...
same ole...same ole...
what is it they say, about repeating the same failed ideas
but expecting a different outcome...
you are resistant to any course of action that requires risk and change
so you are unable to entertain any improvements to your life
because you'd be required to climb out of the rut and take risks and make changes
you blame the world for your bad fortune
but the world didn't make this decision, YOU DID
everything I've gotten in this life, came from taking risks, and working as hard as I could to succeed
the worst thing a guy can do, is to spend the rest of his life in his home village, where he's "comfortable"
doncha see that Trench, and what this has done to your sense of ambition?
you have none...
you just wanna maintain the comfort zone
your lifestyle decision, just ain't compatible with you finding a woman
and this "problem" ain't because of geography
it's because of your "psychology"
and now I will smack you with the Zen of Enlightenment
SWACK!!
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Ukrainian forces believe they have broken through the most difficult line of Russian defences in the south and will now be able to advance more quickly ,a Commander fighting in the south told Reuters.
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ukraine has roughly 2 more months of good weather...
and then their advance will slow...
they will not be able to cut-off crimea this yr
putin, would never, never "make it" as a comedian or musician
his sense of "timing" is way, way, off
he coulda done all this when Trump was in office and had a TOTALLY different outcome
but..
timing over North Stream (LOL!!!)
however, if Ukraine DOES succeed in cutting off Crimea, NEXT YEAR
then the time will come to him
and by the time the first tactical mini/micro nuke goes off
Ukraine will realize too late, that:
"Nothing Fails Like Success"
Everyone outside Russia, has their own bias about Russia's potential use of nukes
they are misreading the signs
Russian "nuke talking" ain't for some kinda propaganda
it's partly to "psyche themselves" up for it
and brainwash the people intto WANTING IT!!
Russian nukes will get out those hard to clean Ukrainian stains
Russia has a history of nuking their own people (even deliberately) MANY times during the Soviet Period
history ALWAYS repeats, until humans learn something from it
they rarely do
the "cost" of a Russian defeat in Ukraine
is much higher than the cost of the war
and the "return" on a Russian victory in Ukraine
is also much higher than the cost of the war
and this is why it continues
check with "accounting" and see if this isn't so
Putin's plan for nuking Amerika...
is ju jitsu and not nuclear karate
if he can pull off another Trump campaign win
he and Trump will kiss the American government "good bye"
hey, hey, hey, goodbye
it SEEMS like an insurmountable task to hoist Trump back up on the presidential pedastal
it'll take a lot more this time, than hacking emails and bribing the FBI
2016 they made mistakes with Flynn and Manafort, that was the beginning of the downfall
2024 is gonna be a small historical inflection point
the bigger ones are still aways down the road
religious people will all say that humanity deseves what's coming for their sins
I ain't religious, but this is one of the few things I am in agreement with...
the older I get, the more I despise my species
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ukraine has roughly 2 more months of good weather...
and then their advance will slow...
they will not be able to cut-off crimea this yr
putin, would never, never "make it" as a comedian or musician
his sense of "timing" is way, way, off
he coulda done all this when Trump was in office and had a TOTALLY different outcome
but..
timing over North Stream (LOL!!!)
however, if Ukraine DOES succeed in cutting off Crimea, NEXT YEAR
then the time will come to him
and by the time the first tactical mini/micro nuke goes off
Ukraine will realize too late, that:
"Nothing Fails Like Success"
Everyone outside Russia, has their own bias about Russia's potential use of nukes
they are misreading the signs
Russian "nuke talking" ain't for some kinda propaganda
it's partly to "psyche themselves" up for it
and brainwash the people intto WANTING IT!!
Russian nukes will get out those hard to clean Ukrainian stains
Russia has a history of nuking their own people (even deliberately) MANY times during the Soviet Period
history ALWAYS repeats, until humans learn something from it
they rarely do
the "cost" of a Russian defeat in Ukraine
is much higher than the cost of the war
and the "return" on a Russian victory in Ukraine
is also much higher than the cost of the war
and this is why it continues
check with "accounting" and see if this isn't so
Putin's plan for nuking Amerika...
is ju jitsu and not nuclear karate
if he can pull off another Trump campaign win
he and Trump will kiss the American government "good bye"
hey, hey, hey, goodbye
it SEEMS like an insurmountable task to hoist Trump back up on the presidential pedastal
it'll take a lot more this time, than hacking emails and bribing the FBI
2016 they made mistakes with Flynn and Manafort, that was the beginning of the downfall
2024 is gonna be a small historical inflection point
the bigger ones are still aways down the road
religious people will all say that humanity deseves what's coming for their sins
I ain't religious, but this is one of the few things I am in agreement with...
the older I get, the more I despise my species
I assume yo mama's village will be safe with all these inflections inflecting away from the UK?
Please tell me the shire shall be safe Master Frodo?
Yeah I think the Ukrainian offensive is now dead in the water, we keep hearing about how they have made a significant breakthrough in the south but little sign of any actual significant advancement. Winter as you say will soon be setting in and with it any hope of Ukraine delivering in their much lauded counter offensive.
I've got stuff to sort out that's for sure. House has to be done before any venture off abroad. Hopefully not much longer now it's starting to look good but good takes time. Still considering a trip to Moldova while the warm weather is still around. It would be handy to scout out the terrain and see if I can turf up any decent women. I think that is really possible this time even though time would be limited.
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Trench, why you so worried?
your life is probably more than half over ALREADY
if I were you, I'd be far more worried about LIVING than I would be about DYING
once you're dead - you ain't got NO worries mate!
another day, another Russian official dies in a plane crash, this is how they tell time in Russia now, "I saw her 3 dead generals ago"
Putin will read their Eulogy
Trench, Ukraine's strategy HAS NOT been a failure!
they were in an ideal spot in Bakhmut to DEVASTATE russians
the terrain, plus the "not one step back" made Bakhmut a shooting gallery
and Ukraine got rid of a LOT of Russia's ability to inflict casualties on them
Ukraine HAS to fight this way, cuz they ain't quite the size of the Anglo-American Army on D-Day
Russians OUTNUMBER them in EVERY WAY
Ukraine's military strategy is called "subtraction"
once they get the total down to some "threshold"
then you'll see some action
but there's a long, long way to go
the Ukrainian offensive's goal is to encircle Crimea like it was Leningrad back in '42
the big problem with this is best explained by chess:
this move is CHECK but not CHECKMATE
and when you put Putin in CHECK
is when he will immediately CHECKMATE YOU (like Prigozhin!)
ya wanna hear America's plan to respond to a Russian nuke?
they're gonna attack the Black Sea Fleet and air bases in Crimea (Russian territory!) with conventional weapons
there will be Russian civilian casualties
Ukrainians will be gloating on Russian TV
Russian blood pressure be like a thermometer so hot mercury shoots out the top
the next day Putinuh takes out the golden key
and opens the box the devil gave him
and everybody in a big city in Ukraine dies almost instantly
including their dogs, cats, and pet birds
it's called a tactical neutron bomb
it kills by a neutron burst at detonation
a big ass flash in the sky, some windows break
and within 2 km everyone is dead
your move NATO...
and BTW, when Putin sees endless videos of the Ukrainian city he killed
he completely LOSES IT!!!
Then guess what happens NEXT, you dumb ass western phuquers?
ya shoulda just let "us" work out the details of the commonwealth with Ukraine instead of Paul Manofort
and EVERYBODY would've been 100 times better off, cuz he sold ya'll out and THEN LOOK at what happened after that!!!
pridorki to the right of me
and pridorki to the left
somehow, I must continue on...
but Jeez Louise, things have gotten way, way beyond mere bardak
compared to back in the Yeltsin/Berozovsky period
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The AFU are preparing a powerful strike on the second line of the orcs defence in Zaporizhzhia.
Ukrainian military "are at the distance of the next strike on a series of prepared Russian defensive positions " in the Zaporizhzhia region,according to analysts from the Institute of study of war.
Also,in the Operational Command South ,it was noted that the orcs started having serious logistical problems as three of their ammo depots were blown up in one day.
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when you dumb asses bomb sevastopol
and get 20,000 or 30,000 ukrainian civilians killed as a Russian retort
then what?
do something to kill even more?
like I said, consider it a strategic chess move,
putinah is gonna corner you in this pocket
and the west is COMPLETELY unprepared
this is the path it's gonna go down
why doncha all see, that Putin is NOT going to retaliate DIRECTLY against the West's counter-attack after his initial Neutron bomb deployment against Zelensky and Ukraine's HQ
of course not...
Putin's gonna pick a city like Lvov or Ternopil, whichever has the highest logistic value and do it indirectly
and hit it with a netron bomb as well
and then use multiple to clear pathways through ukraine's defenses and logistics center
destoying both within 24 hours
like the blitzkrieg in France 1940 after that
and an even bigger slaughter of civilians
by the time the killin is over in Ukraine
it'll be as bad as the great patriotic war
so this means, it hasn't really gotten started yet
cuz ain't no WMDs
YET...
ya'll should read about neutron bombs, google is your friend
and the images this creates wil all get magnified to a very high level by the media
horrifing it's western audience, but NOT it's Russian one!!
feel the difference?
eta russkaya stal
the USA has a small stockpile of W82 warheads
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W82
russians have 10 times more of these
2 kt neutron bomb enhanced radiation weapons
this is putin raising the ante of the bet, he'll put a ukrainian city in the pot and nato puts in a crimean russian airstrip
the ratings will decide what happens in the next episode
I predict the Russian show will get way, way, more viewers than the western one
besides the technical advantage for neutron bombs
there is also a PR one!
you can sell a neutron bomb as a kinder, gentler weapon
cuz afterwards, there is very little damage to see
the only clue, would be the smell after a few days
cuz even the buzzards and rats will be dead
when these images hit the global media space
will everyone put on their mask LOL?
Putin will have ya by the balls
and he is gonna squeeze as hard as he freakin can
Russians own 90% of the neutron bombs that exist on earth today
and then why doncha do a cost/benefit analysis, horrosho?
gozpedy, I gotta tell you people EVERYTHING!!!
you guys have any clue about how many Atomika people there are in Russia?
and that without Russians China and Iran would never of had a nuclear program
ya'll better stop keepin your heads in the sand
cuz the only way, you're gonna know when the tsunami is coming
is when it hits your naked ass, which you can then kiss goodby a second before it happens
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And with that a pleasant reminder that we British are currently the second biggest contributor to the Ukraine war:
http://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-second-largest-partner-in-ukraines-fight-against-russia/
Good-o, well with that out the way which should keep us in good stead with Ukrainian women I have just thought of a pressing point circa Krim's point above.
If Putler uses neutron bombs or mini nukes what's the chances that western countries will ban their civilians from visiting Russia? i.e how it used to be back in Soviet Union times.
So if Putler is going to hover up Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia & the Stans by this method then that leaves nowhere for us to hunt for pooty tang that is Russian speaking!!!
Possibly only Belarus which is a not as easy flight and cost as it used to be but there's a fair chance that will be banned as well.
So if so that doesn't leave a lot of time for me & others to get sorted with a FSW.
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Trench, wake up man!
I am reminded of the book "Slaughterhouse 5" by Kurt Vonnegut
the part where he saw the Ost female worker prisoners all naked and taking showers, hundreds of gorgeous women, naked in one spot, the water flowing over their soap covered skin
unfortunately...
this was Dresden on Feb 26, 1945
and every single one of em was burned to death later that evening, their once beautiful bodies turned into charred husks curled up into the fetal position
courtesey of the Lancasters of the the Royal Air Force
let he who is without sin, yada yada....
everyone, everyone, everyone
is some species of sinner
everyone
you, Trench are more on the sloth side
can you guess what my sins are?
awwww c'mon...
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My guess would be something you have done with women?
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never that, t'was women who taught me all I know about life
all the bad things that i've done in my life
means I don't have a guilt free soul
cuz I did do some REALLY, REALLY bad and deeply disturbing things in foreign countries
cuz it was super easy for me to get away with it
and it earned me a good life
the ends always justify the means, no matter who you are
the only way to climb up that ladder
is to kick off the ones ahead and behind you
before they try and do it to you
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Trench, why you so worried?
your life is probably more than half over ALREADY
if I were you, I'd be far more worried about LIVING than I would be about DYING
once you're dead - you ain't got NO worries mate!
another day, another Russian official dies in a plane crash, this is how they tell time in Russia now, "I saw her 3 dead generals ago"
Putin will read their Eulogy
Trench, Ukraine's strategy HAS NOT been a failure!
they were in an ideal spot in Bakhmut to DEVASTATE russians
the terrain, plus the "not one step back" made Bakhmut a shooting gallery
and Ukraine got rid of a LOT of Russia's ability to inflict casualties on them
Ukraine HAS to fight this way, cuz they ain't quite the size of the Anglo-American Army on D-Day
Russians OUTNUMBER them in EVERY WAY
Ukraine's military strategy is called "subtraction"
once they get the total down to some "threshold"
then you'll see some action
but there's a long, long way to go
the Ukrainian offensive's goal is to encircle Crimea like it was Leningrad back in '42
the big problem with this is best explained by chess:
this move is CHECK but not CHECKMATE
and when you put Putin in CHECK
is when he will immediately CHECKMATE YOU (like Prigozhin!)
ya wanna hear America's plan to respond to a Russian nuke?
they're gonna attack the Black Sea Fleet and air bases in Crimea (Russian territory!) with conventional weapons
there will be Russian civilian casualties
Ukrainians will be gloating on Russian TV
Russian blood pressure be like a thermometer so hot mercury shoots out the top
the next day Putinuh takes out the golden key
and opens the box the devil gave him
and everybody in a big city in Ukraine dies almost instantly
including their dogs, cats, and pet birds
it's called a tactical neutron bomb
it kills by a neutron burst at detonation
a big ass flash in the sky, some windows break
and within 2 km everyone is dead
your move NATO...
and BTW, when Putin sees endless videos of the Ukrainian city he killed
he completely LOSES IT!!!
Then guess what happens NEXT, you dumb ass western phuquers?
ya shoulda just let "us" work out the details of the commonwealth with Ukraine instead of Paul Manofort
and EVERYBODY would've been 100 times better off, cuz he sold ya'll out and THEN LOOK at what happened after that!!!
pridorki to the right of me
and pridorki to the left
somehow, I must continue on...
but Jeez Louise, things have gotten way, way beyond mere bardak
compared to back in the Yeltsin/Berozovsky period
I think this analysis is spot on Krim, yes I can see Putler going for the neutron bomb or mini nuke option at if Ukraine takes the land corridor to Crimea around Melitopol. Odds are that will roughly co-inside with Russia army dwindling on its armaments stockpile so Putler will feel that is the option he must use. Like you say probably next year.
Yeah, while I'm in no hurry to throw my life away I'm not getting any younger and trying to live a life is the main thing. So for me balancing caution, risk & potential return. Life has kind of sucked growing up in the UK with women, not just for me but many men it seems. And matters have only gotten worse for today's young guys. Young girls getting themselves obese is far more numerous today than in my day. I just think of the number of girls that takes out of the dating market for guys. Feminism the main issue though for both our generations, women seeing men not as the solution but something to be used even fight against. The over expansion of university education hasn't helped either as back in the day if you had a bit of intelligence and was willing to work hard at studies for a bit you could access jobs other guys couldn't who weren't that academic. Over the past 20 years or so exams have been made increasingly easy so that almost anyone who wanted to get to Uni could do so and get a degree. That just kind of screwed things up as people of my generation were led on at School to believe that if you be serious, diligent and work hard at studies you will get somewhere. Unfortunately that never sounded out as too many followed that path and the labour market was swamped with grads. This year the government has made exams more difficult in England and pass rates for GCSE's have fallen away quite a bit. That's a step in the right direction as it's important to separate the wheat from the chaff for the benefit of both, even those who don't do well at academia can do better by getting going in the workplace earlier. Too late for me though and it will take a number of years to unwind the situation maybe a decade or more if they continue to stay on course in that direction.
For me I've just got to try and make the best of what I can now. It's a bugger that the system was screwed up for me and many others by those at the top not understanding how things work but I guess now they know.
At least as things stand I'm not doing the worst economically as there are others in a worse situation than I am so I'm not among the poorest in society with owning their own home or sometimes even a job so should feel lucky I'm doing ok there at least. Just for me need to push on further I think to do better.
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if you have this kind of sentiment about your own culture
why didn't it make you angry and anti-social instead of just "shy"
with anger, you can figure out ways to put that anger to "work" somewhere
how is shyness gonna ever work for you? it does the opposite, almost self-sabotage
the more resistance I faced in life, the more it instilled in me a strong desire and determination to succeed, but it only discouraged you
you never even left home Trench
to compare, by the time I was 18, I lived on my own outside the USA and was making your income
and I got free Pooty Tang ALL THE TIME back then, I was only using them girls for the free meals and cookies they'd make me
good times
eating cookies baked by a woman, "in the field" oichen kuzna!!
it really didn't take much to make me feel good when I was real young
i'm MUCH more discerning now
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if you have this kind of sentiment about your own culture
why didn't it make you angry and anti-social instead of just "shy"
with anger, you can figure out ways to put that anger to "work" somewhere
how is shyness gonna ever work for you? it does the opposite, almost self-sabotage
the more resistance I faced in life, the more it instilled in me a strong desire and determination to succeed, but it only discouraged you
you never even left home Trench
to compare, by the time I was 18, I lived on my own outside the USA and was making your income
and I got free Pooty Tang ALL THE TIME back then, I was only using them girls for the free meals and cookies they'd make me
good times
eating cookies baked by a woman, "in the field" oichen kuzna!!
it really didn't take much to make me feel good when I was real young
i'm MUCH more discerning now
House prices and rent went through the roof the moment I got to leaving home age because EU let a load of Polish, etc in the country. Along with that wages went flat.
Even if I moved out of home there was precious little reason to do so in the UK. The girls here only care if you have something big going for you otherwise they just see you as competition. It's like being kneed in the balls by your own side. Welcome to life in the UK!
Anger won't get you anywhere here apart from unemployed an possibly prison if your anger is bad enough. There's not the scope in the UK like the US, etc. In the UK if you have a job you are doing well, otherwise you need serious money to get on.
For you going out to the FSU, Israel, etc was probably more natural as you had roots out there in terms of family background/history, I don't have any of that. Back in the nineties I rarely had the money to go abroad and had no knowledge of any reason to in terms of work or women. I also had no command of any foreign language to any decent extent, basic/poor German and French, that was it. So I would have been like a fish out of water out there, unable to speak the language in largely non/basic internet age in countries where English was not as prevalent as it is now. So it was a lot harder and more obscure then moreso to someone who hadn't any idea of how things were out in the FSU, etc. If I was at an older age, money behind me, bored and willing to explore for the hell of it maybe, but a young native UK guy my age doesn't want to take an off the hoof journey into god knows where just out of interest if there is anything there with the unlikelihood of discovering anything as you can't understand the lingo, etc and possibly ending up in a bad situation as in a totally alien terrain. Remember in Moscow & St. Pete's at this time there were reports of foreign guys being done in because they inadvertently had the audacity to get into a mafia taxi that they had no clue was a mafia taxi and the mafia not take too kindly to it :-\
So yeah options were generally pretty limited back then, not like how much easier stuff is now with booking flights, hotel rooms, apartments, etc online, & Google translate to get you out of difficulty when needing to communicate with the locals. So much easier these days.
You have to remember to the 90s was a time of mass unemployment in the UK which only got better towards the end of the late 90s. By then people were jolly glad to just have a job but everyone was unsure of how long that would last - fortunately it last a good decade before the credit crunch but even that wasn't as bad as the 90s recession in the UK, much shorter unemployment issues. So most people were mostly concerned with finding employment at home, galavanting out to some foreign country with little money in the bank, little if any command of the language and few skills in high demand to offer just wasn't an idea that any person that was sound of mind in such a situation would contemplate it was just ludicrous and if any did attempt it would be highly unlikely to end well.
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Trench,
the female WANTS A STRONG MALE AND NOT A WEAKER ONE
what virtues do you "signal" to a woman?
so if wimmin ain't pickin up any kinda signals from ya
why do you blame society for being at fault, and not consider it a reflection of a quality about you
you think it's actually societies fault, and in particular female society
for COMPLETELY failing to perceive your hidden beauty Trench?
is this the position YOU are taking on this matter?
I have a simpler explanation:
you're poor
and kinda plain lookin....
and you're middle-aged
now next time you ignore an overweight unattractive middle aged woman
you'll see what I'm tellin ya
what's perceived, is what people THINK is REAL
OK...
you need one of two things Master Trench, that you do not posess
either become a successful man with a successful persona
or learn how to act like one
otherwise, just think what'd happen to "your love life" if the internet went down and you couldn't watch porn any more, then WHAT?
it'd FALL OFF due to lack of "maintenence"
oh no, IT'S TRUE!!!
i'm not trying to scare ya or anything like that...
but DON'T GOOGLE it, you don't want that in your search history
just "trust me", OK...
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Trench,
the female WANTS A STRONG MALE AND NOT A WEAKER ONE
what virtues do you "signal" to a woman?
so if wimmin ain't pickin up any kinda signals from ya
why do you blame society for being at fault, and not consider it a reflection of a quality about you
you think it's actually societies fault, and in particular female society
for COMPLETELY failing to perceive your hidden beauty Trench?
is this the position YOU are taking on this matter?
I have a simpler explanation:
you're poor
and kinda plain lookin....
and you're middle-aged
now next time you ignore an overweight unattractive middle aged woman
you'll see what I'm tellin ya
what's perceived, is what people THINK is REAL
OK...
you need one of two things Master Trench, that you do not posess
either become a successful man with a successful persona
or learn how to act like one
otherwise, just think what'd happen to "your love life" if the internet went down and you couldn't watch porn any more, then WHAT?
it'd FALL OFF due to lack of "maintenence"
oh no, IT'S TRUE!!!
i'm not trying to scare ya or anything like that...
but DON'T GOOGLE it, you don't want that in your search history
just "trust me", OK...
Yeah that is all kind of true. I mean none of us get to chose how we look and while photofeeler tells me I'm about everyday average looking I think I'm probably the sort of person that facially doesn't stand out much in terms of features. If you wanted an anonymous looking everyman sort of guy as a spy or secret assassin I would probably fit the bill for not being noticed among a sea of other everyday people looking very similar without facial features that stand out a lot.
So yeah part of my hesitancy for doing the trip abroad thing is being in the right position. At the moment there would be signs that would torpedo the illusion of a successful man. My car is needing replacement soon, it's more old banger supermini than prestige Merc. My job is a good easy but low money earner but doesn't scream 'successful man' many women in fact might diss it. And my house is not yet complete, meaning I'm looking more like a down and out while I'm covered in crap from doing the work in a place while getting to looking good still has mess around. However the old granny who lives down the street passed by yesterday and commented that it was now looking good outside :D
So the look at the moment is probably totally the opposite of a look of a successful man. Once the house is done the costs of renovation go and I can spend out on a better car. The job can go in due course but I will need it for the time being, potentially I can give it a slightly different image I will talk more on that later.
All I have so far is a wardrobe with some nice Armani pieces in that while all new were cheap buys compared to some of the pricey stuff they do. That Armani stuff I only wear to special occasions so as not to wear it out.
Funny thing is yo mama's village is located in one of the most pricey areas of the UK outside of central London. She doesn't have the most expensive house in the area or the least, about Inbetween. Currently my guess is that it's worth about £600k though it means more to me as a family home. That's her house though and a lot of women won't see where I live or know of it. So unless I chose to tell them the situation doesn't tend to weigh in.
So yeah just kind of need to change things up a bit as like you point out I'm kind of missing on big positives that would help me out.
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Ukrainian flag now raised on the left bank of the Dnipro river in Kherson region. ;D
Near Antonivka road bridge.
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The orcs are now retreating amid a breakthrough in their defence line.It is about the offensive of the AFU in the Zaporizhzhia direction.
The head of the joint press centre of the Defence Forces of Southern Ukraine stated it.
"The enemy has no chance to consolidate the broken defence " she said.
Yeah but what about the nukes scream Krim and Trench.....and the propagandists on Russian tv,
Meanwhile those same propagandists are claiming it was the Brits who shot down Prigozhin's plane.
"I have no doubt it was the British who did it .They're cynical and brazen ".
Nice to know the Ruskies are terrified of us Brits. >:D
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wellllll...
weren't you the people who said "NEE!!"
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Sounds like Russia took a battering last night.
A drone attack at the Pskov airport has left 4 IL-76 and a TU-22 aircraft damaged,with a fueling complex also destroyed.
Another drone hit the "Kremny EL" factory in Bryansk .This is/was one of the largest Russian microelectronics manufacturers.
The Cherekhinsky military base was also hit.
UAV strikes were carried out in Moscow,Oryol,Bryansk ( three times),Ryazan,Kaluga and Pskov regions.
In addition Sevastopol and it's bay were attacked by naval drones.
All very alarming for the orcs,and i suspect the west /NATO is watching with keen interest on how ineffective the orcs AD is proving to be.
The Commanders of our Trident Submarines,each carrying up to 40 nuclear warheads, will be smirking as we speak. >:D
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Meanwhile in Ukraine.
Two strong explosions are reported in Dzhankoy,Crimea ..there is a military airfield here.
The headquarters of political party "United Russia" was blown up in occupied Nova Kakhovka.
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Russia attempted to retaliate to their horrendous night by firing yet more missiles and drones at Ukraine.
All cruise missiles ( 28/28) and 15/16 Shaheed drones were shot down,the Ukrainian Air Force reports.
The orc military in retreat ..again...in Ukraine.Russia being blitzed,Russians being mobilized to ward of perceived ground attacks from,living in their heads, Brit Special Forces,Russian missiles and drones being shot down with contempt by Ukrainian AD's ...can it get any worse for Putler and his regime ? >:D
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From a televised interview with the head of GUR Budanov.
"There will be no nuclear strike,even when we enter Crimea ".
" Nuclear bombs for SU-27M planes were brought to Belarus " .
"Russia is considering the option of announcing mobilization this fall to conscript about 450,000 people.This should not be feared,as Russia conscripts about 20,000 people every month ".
"China supplies Russia with drones and chips,but these are dual-use goods.They won't dare to supply weapons ".
"Ukraine is obliged to intervene in all political processes in Russia.Our task is to strengthen the influence of GUR on everything that happens in the decision-making rooms." .
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Looks like Trench was totally wrong,as he often is, in his story of Ukraine's failed summer counter-offensive,no doubt from dubious sources.
"Over the past 72 hours we've seen significant progress of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the southern frontline .They've had some success against the Russian second line of defence " said US National Security Council communications coordinator John Kirby.
Also it was reported by Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Defence Hanna Malyar that during the summer period ,it was possible to free 248.8 Square km of Ukrainian land.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed 55,000 invaders and 655 tanks over the summer-mass media.
The destruction of Russia's military continues apace, >:D
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Is Krim ok? Been a few days since he's posted on here, unusual for him. Hope all's ok.
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The British Challenger 2 tank impressing in Ukraine:
http://www.forces.net/ukraine/sniper-rifle-among-tanks-ukrainian-soldier-praises-uks-challenger-2
They're after more of course as they only have 14 so few in number. We've got about a couple of hundred though the UK gov seems to want to hold onto them. I can understand not wanting to give away too many but they're just sat there anyway and we're getting the new Challenger 3 tanks though not as many as the Challenger 2 tanks as I understand it.
It looks like Ukraine will also start taking delivery of some Abrams tanks this month.
The window for Ukraine to push in with a big Counter-offensive is getting narrower. There still is time and if it sounds out that the preparation work has been done to properly get at the Russians then it could work. I am dubious at the moment though. Seems progress is talked about but I'm not so sure if it's all that significant.
A big Counter-offensive soon could make the Russians break and run and if that happens a lot of ground could be taken quickly. If Ukraine can't break through this Autumn then Russia will doubtless reinforce it's lines again with mines & fortifications for next year. That could be dangerous for Ukraine if matters start to move against it.
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Russia's lost one of its Tos thermobaric launchers:
http://www.eurasiantimes.com/russias-fully-loaded-tos-1a-flamethrower-gutted-by-ukraines-450-first-person-view-drone/
Always wondered if the operators of these Tos weapons would be called Tossers :D
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Apparently Ukraine has lost its first Challenger tank, so down to 13 now:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/09/05/ukraine-has-lost-its-first-challenger-2-tank/
Shows that Russia are putting up a fair bit of a fight this year. Still Ukraine's military trudging on at a slow pace, too slow really so unless a breakthrough comes soon it doesn't look like they are going to cut off the land corridor this year.
If I had been commanding either side I would have gained them a victory by now ;D
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An interesting article:
Via Euronews: Up to €3,400 per month: Meet the Spanish company recruiting fighters for Ukraine
http://www.euronews.com/2023/09/08/up-to-3400-per-month-meet-the-spanish-company-recruiting-fighters-for-ukraine
Apparently US Intelligence estimates Ukraine's forces dead & wounded at around 190,000. They may just be intelligent enough to be about right. I've read elsewhere that Ukraine has had many casualties in its Counter-offensive particularly around Bakhmut, first defending against attack then trying to retake it, not that there is anything much there to retake.
So an average of about 100,000 troop losses per year roughly. Wounded as in too wounded to return to the front in most cases.
Personally I don't regard the money Ukraine pays as good money for risking your life, it's probably taxed as well, so I probably earn as much pro rata for working my present job. I know some aren't in it for the money so much but it's not great money should things go south. If a loss of limb etc occurs my guess is that person is then cast adrift and pretty much in their own.
The true troop loss numbers are kept quiet by the Ukrainian government both to avoid losing support abroad and also to avoid putting the shits up those being called up and risk them doing a runner. I can see why they do it but if I was a Ukrainian guy I wouldn't blame them for thinking the worst and doing a runner upon call up.
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From another article that I saw apparently a lot of the foreigner fighters in the International Legion that were fighting for Ukraine had returned home. Initially there were about 20,000 foreigners that had traveled to Ukraine to fight, sone of those were oddballs who had never had any military experience, fought anywhere, etc and mostly weren't of much value to Ukraine. A large number had some military experience to plentiful experience, while some were just TA weekend soldier type guys who had only ever done a bit of training. Even some old dudes turned up at the Ukrainian Embassy in London willing to fight but passed their best though probably with little to lose.
So apparently now the Legion is down to around 2,000 men mostly tough heavily experience guys with many military skills. So very useful to Ukraine but low in numbers being the main problem. A lot of soldiers have returned home after spending a few months out there, some plan on returning (if there's a victory parade ;D ) others are not. A few of the inexperienced guys that went there apparently buggered off after hearing a few artillery shells land around them lol.
At its worst some ex Legionnaires complain off being ill equipped, badly treated - abuse, long hours without rest/washing and being treated as cannon fodder some of being given missions that were suicidal. So on that front perhaps not a lot different to the Russians.
So now it looks like Ukraine is man hungry once again and not just the women. A lot of the euphoria has gone out of the initial stages of the war and it's now less of a buzz about it in the west so it's unlikely Ukraine will get the numbers of foreign fighters back it once had but it seems to be looking to get some more foreign fighters but of better quality.
The plus side for Ukraine is that Wagner is currently not what it was if it will ever be again so for the time being they aren't up against Wagner mercenaries at least so it's pretty much even stevens on that front. The other issue Ukraine faces is how many men are left in its society that will willingly go and fight for Ukraine. At the start when euphoria is high and particularly when Ukraine was doing well against Russia it would have been pretty easy to get men up. Increasingly as Ukraine get bogged down along with Russia in a war that is looking that it is stagnanting at a stalemate with much euphoria gone far fewer Ukrainian men may be willing to step forward. A meat grinder situation on both sides where neither side gains much is going to be a turn off to men on both sides. While Ukraine conscripts in reality it likely relies on those men turning up. Ukraine is a large country in which to hide or cross over the lengthy land border with decent odds of getting out. Even if they are picked up there is little that can be done apart from punishment for those that don't wish to fight and many may prefer punishment to being in the front line. Some of course we already know have paid off officials to avoid conscription or purposely injured themselves to avoid it.
So I think increasingly as time goes on the it could well be a changing picture on both sides but specifically for Ukrainians on how they deal with the war situation they are seemingly stuck in. My guess is that Ukraine will likely find it increasingly difficult to get men willing to be conscripted to the front lines.
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CNN on Thursday quoted an excerpt from the biography Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson, which described how armed submarine drones were approaching a Russian fleet near the Crimean coast when they “lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly”.
“By not allowing Ukrainian drones to destroy part of the Russian fleet via Starlink interference, @elonmusk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities. As a result, civilians, and children are being killed,” Podolyak wrote.
“Preliminary analysis suggests that the reach and influence of Kremlin-backed accounts has grown further in the first half of 2023, driven in particular by the dismantling of Twitter’s safety standards.
The EU has also accused Musk’s X of allowing Russian propaganda about Ukraine to spread on its website.
A study released last week by the European Commission, the governing body of the European Union, found that “the reach and influence of Kremlin-backed accounts has grown further in the first half of 2023.”
The study said that the increased reach of Russian propaganda online was “largely driven by Twitter, where engagement grew by 36% after CEO Elon Musk decided to lift mitigation measures on Kremlin-backed accounts”.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/08/elon-musk-committed-evil-starlink-order-ukraine
Also a related opinion piece:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/08/elon-musk-satellite-war-starlink-system-ukraine
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Orc defensive lines are cracking...looks like their whole front line is in trouble. Not surprising with their killed around the 600 a day mark now. >:D
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5j5Ca0XMAAYDFA?format=webp&name=small)
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Orc defensive lines are cracking...looks like their whole front line is in trouble. Not surprising with their killed around the 600 a day mark now. >:D
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5j5Ca0XMAAYDFA?format=webp&name=small)
I don't read that into the report. Ukrainians have been stuck around Robotyne for some time now, similarly with Bakhmut also. Their Counter-offensive has only retaken very small areas and they've been at it for months now.
It's not that I don't support Ukraine, I do but I just think they didn't get the strategy right here this year. They've only got a few weeks left now before winter starts to set in. If they happen to crack the Russian lines they might then make rapid progress but I am doubtful. Most of their time seems to have been dealing with minefields and to some extent fortifications. That means that they couldn't put the pressure on the Russian Army that they needed to. Meanwhile in the north where they could have five that, then swung around behind orc lines they've ignored that to concentrate on the harder way through. This year's fighting is looking like a stalemate to me.
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rumours of me being cut-off from Russian Nootropics
have been GREATLY exaggerated
I'm retired now, and don't need 'em for work anymore
Russians showed me the kinda advantage THEY give
and I ain't talkin 'bout LAME western versions, like Adderall or Modafinil
I WUZ overseas and got back earlier this evening, and had my first post travel nap
moy gullivar is really confused and unhappy now
Geezers should stick to flying short distances, like Costa Rica
after I get a certain letter from Kazakhstan due REAL SOON NOW
I'll show ya
as far as "other" farmaceuticals are concerned
even after a nuclear apocalypse
I will still have weed dropped off at the compound
the rest of ya'll can chug Hillbilly Beer
that's not for me
you go to Uraguay, if you choose to
and i'll go mining
ain't NOTHIN major gonna happen in Ukraine the rest of this year
cuz the weather's gonna run out
Ukraine is a prey animal that latched on to the lion's leg
and it ain't gonna let go, cuz it knows it'll be eaten the moment it does
but the lion has a big wound that's hemmoraging blood from the prey's struggle
all the mistakes Putinauh makes is due to weakness
he waited until North Stream II was done to steal turf from ukraine
cuz he thought it would give him money and leverage over NATO
instead he handed over the whole damn Russia-Europa gas business to the USA
he shouda pulled off his highway robbery under Trump (the sherriff who can be bought)
instead the one he couldn't bribe (AKA Sherriff Sleepy Joe)
potential for cinematic magic here
GOOD V EVIL
with sleepy Sherriff Joe against Alski Coponensky
Hitler made the same mistake with Russia, and delayed operation Barborosa to take Yugoslavia so his flank wasn't wide open
that delay pushed the schedule to June 22, instead of March 22
that delay cost him seizing Moscow due to weather
Putinuh has the same issue
putin has to "secure his flank" before such moves
that simple mistake, pushed his robbery
past Trump and into Biden
when next spring comes, it'll only be 8 months until he and Trump have their moment in the sun together once more
his CURRENT disinformatze plan, is actually working
support for Ukraine in a recent poll, showed a sharp decine in support
most Americans now believe it's not vital to America's interest to support Ukraine
Trump wins, Ukraine will not be getting a dime from the USA
but you better believe Trump will make out, real good...
meanwhile look at what happened at the recent G20 conference
where BRICS oligarchs who have financial ties to Russia
issued a condemnation, of Ukraine defending it's people and territory
well, now that I'm briefly awake
got other stuff to catch up on
so cash ya'll leter
oops...
almost forgot one thing
Putin is sending a huge amount of Russians to the USA ALREADY!!!
but listen to me...
they're all named Lee Harvey Oswaldski
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I WUZ overseas and got back earlier this evening, and had my first post travel nap
moy gullivar is really confused and unhappy now
Geezers should stick to flying short distances, like Costa Rica
after I get a certain letter from Kazakhstan due REAL SOON NOW
I'll show ya
Must have been a real important mission for you to suddenly drop everything and go on radio silence for a fair while Krim. They have no internet out that way? You're our greatest source of everything FSU on here and window into that world, without you on here is like a blind man fumbling around not knowing one part of his body from another.
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no, was planning this for awhile
while returning to the USA I met a self-professed Russian draft dodger
who I'm pretty sure is a Russian "sleeper"
a flood of Russians coming in this way
some of the "draft dodgers" are actually already in the military
and they're coming here for work related to the GRU
i'm SURE their efforts are benign
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the eternal pessimist is the person who KNOWS history
all fascist political movements are based on Völkisch movements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkisch_movement
Germany in the 30s
Russia today
America today
you flatter the master race to make the "race" great once more, something that ONLY THEY can deliver...just "trust me dear masses", they say, while denouncing the non-master races
this is AWAYS how fascism germinates
'tis why every repugnant republican holds an upside down bible
to pander to their base-evangelical christians
things will be declared immoral, based on a 2000 yr old doctrine
which also declares eating pork and lobster to be major sins as well as sexual impropriety, once again based on 2000 yr old standards
not long ago, it was a major impropriety for western women to show their ankles
so maybe ya'll should consider the rejection of the rigidity of religion
consider the way Islam looks at women
do you like it so much?
that ya want wimmin to wear burquas simply becuz to not do so would mean that they'r sinners
in the middle east, people have died recently over women having to wear scarfs
is that what ya want for here?
well, OF COURSE you do - just as long as YOU are not on the list of those naughty folks who want to live freely
but ya ain't gonna be successful demoninzing crab eaters in the 21st century
and ya CAN NOT talk about money, cuz it's ultimately about rich vrs poor
and the rich bankroll those politicians leaning towards fascism
so ya gotta find a group the master race has ALREADY selected as being inferior
and give it a shot of pure adrenalin
and then channel all that energy into your campaign to make "things better" for the master race
of course keeping in mind, 1 out of every 4 german men born in 1920, died in the war
same way over 1000 members of the master race will face prison, carrying out Trump's coup attempt
NEWS FLASH!!
neither Hitler, Trump, or Putin
care about the welfare of the masses, they are narcissists, incapable of empathy
they only care about how to use them
if only the master race had some thought
about how they're being used
in the mid 19th century, "slave states" had 1/4 lower wages compared to nonslave states due to rich people employing slaves in productive activities
nevertheless, poor uneducated southerners joined the confderate army and maybe 5% of male master race members died in the war
while their plantation owning master race sons lived in luxury and exempt from the draft
just like Russian oligarchs
just like Trump, whose family has lived in the USA for over 150 yrs and yet NOT ONE Trump ever served their country
they ONLY serve themselves
this is ALWAYS, ALWAYS how it works
it's NOT just the avarice of one man that enables fascism
it's the ignorance of the master race
and ya'll will pay a gawd awful price for this
the rest of the world has a responsibility to stop Russian Fascism
but Putinuh is ALREADY winning that struggle and if SOMEWAY, SOMEHOW Trump becomes president once more
you can kiss Ukraine's Jhoppa good bye as well as America's
you think Putin is unaware of this?
hahahahahaha
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big time in sevastopol
B-237 "Rostov-on-Don" attack submarine is heavily, maybe irreperably damaged
this is one of the submarines Russians used to launch cruise missiles at Ukraine
other vessels destroyed as well as storage facilities
a few hundred million $USD hit to Russia at a minimum, billion + $USD if the sub is a loss
this all happened about two miles away from my residence in sevastopol
I've lost track of how many window rattling and BREAKING events I've managed to avoid
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big time in sevastopol
B-237 "Rostov-on-Don" attack submarine is heavily, maybe irreperably damaged
this is one of the submarines Russians used to launch cruise missiles at Ukraine
other vessels destroyed as well as storage facilities
a few hundred million $USD hit to Russia at a minimum, billion + $USD if the sub is a loss
this all happened about two miles away from my residence in sevastopol
I've lost track of how many window rattling and BREAKING events I've managed to avoid
A good report on the attack here:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-launches-missile-attack-sevastopol-crimea-russian-installed-governor-2023-09-13/
By the end of this war it looks like Russia's conventional forces will be in such a poor state and so lacking that they won't be up to much more conventional warfare for quite some time, let alone the money to fund it.
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these ships will not be particapating in the war any longer
most likely will be scrapped
sometimes, I get carried away with my sheetposting here
and forget that I gotta keep a low profile
however, i'm prepared for anything russians can throw at me
the war will be concluded in 2025
after that, no worries
i'm a little plankton
Sharks are already comin home to mother russia
they'll focus on that
I have a state-of-the-art secuity system
you'd set off 5 different alarms applying some of that Novichok-A234 to my door handles
and I have an armed response team available 24/7 that can respond instantly
the assassins will be assassinated
i've been through this before
I am spiritually protected from violence
by my Ukrainian great-grandmother and grandmother
who were practicing Kabbalah sages who knew how to cast spells
but my family isn't protected
i've dodged death so many times, i've lost count
whether their spells work truely or not
I believe that they do
there ain't no atheists in fox holes
i'm only an atheist when i'm not in the fox hole
someday I may show ya'll MY Syncretic Kabbalah skillz
and how it helps me "see" the future
in a couple of months when the weather gets cold
russia will target Ukraine's power and gas grid
if you can't beat 'em in the battlefield
then making poor ukrainians freeze to death
is the next best thing
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http://youtu.be/ctrtAwT2sgs
Sources for info in video listed in notes under the video on youtube.
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Putin’s Kleptocracy
The real war, is the war between kleptocrats and the people
both Russian and Ukrainian and American
the people MUST seize power for themselves and get rid of all the politicians and oligarchs
just like Marxism FREAKIN' SAID!!!!
turn all the unions into a politcal party NOW!!!
chronology of the rise of hooligan kleptocracy class in Russia and it's utter disregard for EVERYONE but themselves
and now this system has succeeded to the point where it's about to fail in one of several possible scenarios
that are gonna happen within the next two years
place your bets here
you can put your money on Ukraine if you want to
but I really wouldn't ever bet against Putin, unless there was a good point spread...
if Ukraine succeeds in making a land assault on Crimea next year, 100% Putin will declare the use of tactical nukes to maintain the "territorial integrity" of the Russian Federation
again small neutron bombs that do very little physical damage, but kills humans (even inside tanks) 2km away
and it's an overnight blitzkrieg of dozens and dozens
that completely shreds Ukraine's military
who is also now deaf and blind and then the russians pounce on them with everything they have
including angry babooshkas denied their son's life insurance money armed with sharp hammers and sycles for testicle cutting
The origin and chronology of the kleptocracy
todays main players all go back to the 90s - including Putin, these are forming into multi-generational dynasties
Putin's daughter has the MOST important position in Russia today
She is in charge of the import substitution office
she's in charge of BILLIONS!!!!
not a bad lookin little Russian blond, except for one very bad thing!!
she looks EXACTLY like a young Putin in Drag and with lonh hair
I cannot under any circumstance imagine having sex with her,
cuz when I look at her, I see Putin, and that's just too weird, and my willy would want outta there PRONTO!!!
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I've thought in the past that in the UK it would be better for the Trade Unions to have their own Trade Union Party as a political party run directly by them. Since near the beginning of the twentieth century they have had a hand in the Labour Party. Increasingly though the Labour Party is anything but a party for the working man or the trade union(ist) although many working class people still vote for it, it's policies seem anything but helpful to them. Nowadays it tends to be full of career politicians with their own agendas that aren't really in alignment with the working man.
The first past the post electoral system tends to make it though that you have to form the biggest voting bloc backed up with the biggest amount of finance to stand a chance of winning enough MP's to get into power. That's a real uphill struggle, a cliff face in fact and the smaller parties don't get a look in.
I think you're a very intelligent guy Krim, you have to have been like you say to get to where you've got as a millionaire etc. Many would take offence when someone points out that what they want and what will happen doesn't line up together but you didn't. When I pointed out that Trump being elected may help avoid many more Ukrainians dying by him taking away military support you saw it as it is. I don't expect you'll be going out and buying a 'Trump in 24' banner anytime soon though lol ;D
For what it's wyI actually like Joe Biden, he's got an interesting melodramatic way of expressing stuff when he does his speeches. I'm not sure he's ready to do much with Britain though. I think Trump may potentially be ready to do deals more with Britain now we are post Brexit. Biden so far hasn't done much at all even though the Northern Ireland issues seems to have been largely solved now. I think his Irish roots and view if Brexit probably stopped a lot of that.
So if Trump wins and he pulls military support then it leaves just the UK and the EU largely supporting Ukraine. Assuming either or both are still willing to do so which I think they will it may not mean a complete collapse of Ukraine as a result of US support being pulled. Considering at the same time Russia will as you've pointed out be running down low on armaments and struggling to come up with more. Sure they have Iran, North Korea and possibly China to supply them, but at a cost and their economy is likely to be doing pretty badly by then with a lot of debts mounting.
So a reduced flow of armaments to Ukraine at that time may help avoid Russia from going for the Neutron bomb option so quickly. It could prolong the stalemate in Ukraine which I think most western powers actually want to avoid Putler pressing one of the red buttons. They've no doubt worked out too that Ukraine pushing in too far will push Putler into a corner and that's not a good thing for Ukraine. My guess is that the west's aim is three fold, one to degrade Russia's military capacity so they aren't capable of waging further conventional war easily - making them militarily weak, two to screw up the Russian economy so they are too weak economically to focus on war. Thirdly, to get to a point in Ukraine where the attrition gets so much on Russia's side that they'll come to a situation of at least a status quo in Ukraine. Difficult to say exactly until there but possibly the conflict simmering out into a situation like the Donbass separatist conflict, simmering on but much going nowhere.
My guess is that will allow our beloved Putler to see out his days in power and when he is gone then whoever takes over will hopefully be better placed to get to a peace deal, i.e withdrawal.
No certainties, anything could happen, we'll just have to see how it goes.
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The UK and EU have supplied the bulk of military assistance to Ukraine to date. But the US strong
armed them to do so.
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The UK and EU have supplied the bulk of military assistance to Ukraine to date. But the US strong
armed them to do so.
Lol, I hardly think so. It was Boris Johnson as PM who first stepped forward to be the first to offer and give Ukraine military assistance in the firm of sending them thousands of NLAW hand held anti tank missiles. That proved to be crucial in holding back and defeating the Russians in the early stages if their invasion. Those were given before Russia even invaded long before the US sent Ukraine it's Javelin equivalent.
Both the UK and the EU are only giving a small fraction of their armaments. We gave Ukraine the grand total of 14 old Challenger tanks, good tanks, a precise aim at long range as the Ukrainians have found out but currently an old model compared to the Challenger 3 tanks we are now getting. We have more than 200 Challenger tanks sitting around unlikely to be ever all be needed. Yet here we are the big conflict of our time and what do we do? We send them a measly 14 tanks for the so called big counter offensive. We could have easily sent them 100 tanks or more considering most will just likely end up eventually being scrapped anyway. There could have been a battlefront on the Ukrainian side full of Challenger tanks pounding the enemy and sending them running for the hills. An easy choice for us to make really, how much worth do we put in defeating Russia with a crushing Ukrainian counter offensive? It shows in the pitifully few tanks we sent them.
Air support, again we could have sent Ukraine many of our jet fighters to Ukraine. Ukraine complained bitterly that their Counter-offensive was blunted by not having enough air cover to avoid being pounded by the Russians. Along with the minefields and fortifications it made advancing painfully slow. Ukraine was given HIMARS and Storm Shadow missiles which had a range outside of Ukraine so why no fighter jets?
No good reason for not sending Ukraine the above other than what should be obvious. The UK, EU and US knew what they were sending would not be enough. They have a lot of military bids with many years if expertise. The judgement was no doubt made not to oversupply Ukraine with armaments that would take them to an easy victory against Russia. Military analysis of Russia and it's position would have been done first noting it's minefields, etc. They would have known it was going to be a hard task against Russia, that Russia would have prepared well. They knew that Russia 's weakness was that it was down to antiquated armaments, old tanks, etc that just weren't up to modern armaments, even western end of the cold war armaments. Yet the west didn't want to kick down the door by supplying Ukraine with armaments to knock the crap out of Russia's aging army, they could have easily have done so. No they quibbled over who might send what tanks for ages, yes Ukraine got some tanks in the end, mostly Leopard 2 tanks but it was too little to make a big enough difference.
The decision was of course made to avoid giving Ukraine so much that they would win against Russia, that would be a bad move to make, but they couldn't tell Ukraine that especially the Ukrainian men on the ground fighting. No they were to be used as cannon fodder in all of this their fate was sealed. The Ukrainian government might have suspected that was the game at hand but are powerless to do anything they are now at the whim of western governments and they dare not let their people know the situation either.
Western governments know as Krim pointed out that if Ukraine defeats the Russian Army in field and totally smash then then it's going to force Putler's hand by backing him I to a corner. That's not a good place for Ukraine or the west. End of the day the UK alone probably has enough conventional armaments to win against Russia's antiquated army, the UK and the EU combined could get together and send a huge amount of armaments to Ukraine and enough financial support to double or trebble their army. With the US onboard as well it could be easily done. The US has masses of all sorts of stockpiles of armaments that are just sitting around that it will never use and just scrap. Yet it's not worth their while to send to Ukraine who they apparently support lol. Ukraine could be so full of armaments from the US, UK & EU that it would heavily outweigh Russia both in quantity and quality of its armaments. It would be no fuss for the west to do that, they don't really need those weapons, they have nukes, etc and can easily resupply themselves. The west are all at peace so they don't need to hang onto their armaments so desperately. They do so as they fear the consequences if the Russian Army takes is mauled as a result. Better to carefully balance out Ukraine with a small token if armaments and let Russia drag itself down holding off against it. They know Russia can only go so long like that and that it's the best course of action that they can play. All the positioning on sending tanks and graciously giving a few here and there is just for show. No one is going to tell the Ukrainian troops on the ground they are being used and they're is little chance of pulling if a military success, of course not they would bugger off if they realised a game was being played with their lives.
I think as Krim states that another year or so and the Russians will be running on empty. That is when we're likely see something happen. Best case scenario Ukraine gets relieved of the conflict and the Russians go home. No guarantees though, just a case of seeing how it unfolds.
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Either that or Ukrainian troops all get eviscerated by lots of mini/micro neutron bombs. Once a few few have fallen on Ukrainian troops the rest will see that there is no point left other than a terribly painful and horrific death and they fled and run. That of course we are hoping won't happen as I would prefer that Ukraine pull through this but no certainties here.
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Putin is clearly a man with a guilty conscious (like me)
he fears the karma of all the slaughter he's done, ironic, is it not, that he's mianly killed Russians
and so that's who he fears the most
his own
once upon a time, it would have been SO EASY to off Putin
Even I had a single opportunity
but I also had my family with me
I am just a poor tourista"
and not someone who's gonna take a 700 meter shot from the roof of a building on Nadaghda Ostrovskoi to The Chersonese Bell Monument
with the wind from the south west at about 4 knots
but not now
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-former-guard-at-one-of-putin-s-luxury-palaces-said-it-s-like-a-toxic-little-town-where-everyone-is-snitching-on-each-other/ar-AA1he68h?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=bb45b309707241099a71be6249119e0a&ei=63#image=1
The Putin Protection Industrial Complex
designed by the firm of: Polonium and Novichok UnLimited partnered with Plutonium Brat Moscva
giant fires will light up the night sky
bonfire of a civilization will allow someone like me to "read the ashes"
it all started with a ton of RDX in ryazan
then polonium in the doma of an FSB COL! who said "PUTIN DID IT"
and it'll END with neutron bombs
or Donald Trump being President
and he spends 4 years trying to destroy the US government AND NATO
Putin will have to use completely new people, get ridda of Deripaska for example
unfortunately, he ALREADY put in prison or fired "his best minds" in the FSB
who can he trust to run all "the focus groups"
which are teams of "experts" who follow the outcome of a particular thread
like "The Percentage of American Voters Who Support Providing Aid To Ukraine"
and then coordinate dozens of threads simultaneously
into an "executive summary" that's read by Putin
these analysts are mostly Moscow State University people
who hate non-members of their tribe
in their ranks
lotta back stabbin goin on
this is where you can learn a lot, by letting a professional "thief-in-law" someone who has done "hard time" in a Russian prison (preferably a family member)
tell ya what they learned about survival in a Russian prison
if you understand the stories they tell ya
then ya know how to beat the Russians at their own game
you give carrots to the lesser in rank
and you "setup" the biggest most dominant one to fail in front of his superior
and then you step in and make your move against him with your "friends" with even more carrots
BOOM! Power Shift that took 2 minutes
leverage is the art of using the minimim force over a long distance or long time
to move an impossibly heavy object a short distance for a short time
and sometimes a simple lever is all ya need to start a landslide
this is how Russians fight each other...
in a subtle underhanded way
death by a pin prick and not a hammer blow
the ju-jitsu - use the enemy's own weakness against him and use the minimum amount of force
This is what Putin was doing in Ukraine, up until 2014
and it was about 90% of the way working
when "suddenly" Maidan happened
and that changed "everything"
Russia AND PARTICULARLY PUTIN were suffering an existential "crisis"
what happens when the eagle of Maidan flies to Moscow and lands?
so fake electors took over the Crimean Parliment by a shadowy mafiya paramilitary group armed by the FSB
who also happened to be the biggest Private Real Estate Developer in Crimea
and later Mayor of Crimea
with only a handful of shots fired!
soon Russians were instigating attacks on the Ukrainian government, seizing armories, etc in Donetsk and then in Odesa
any of this ring a bell
Putin is safer NOW then he ever WAS!
his war time powers make it illegal to protest him
each major city has a reserve force to violently and immediately suppress any protest
Russia is a hostage nation
the gov controls almost EVERYTHING
70% of the people directly work for the gov in some way
average person has NO CIVIL RIGHTS
connected people, will always phuque you over in a Russian court, cuz they already PAID the judge
so kiss your property, money, etc good by!!
Hey! Hey! Goodby!
that's why the only way to exist in Russia, is NOT to exist in Russia
i.e. become a person with no fixed address
and no traceable assets other than a small bank account
whoever pays Putin the most, gives him the biggest cut, WINS
and the loser runs to exile or falls out a window
Putin is squeezing more and more, from the top as well as the bottom
the war will cost a lot...
a trillion USD a few months from now
hundreds of thousands killed and maimed
200 billion USD of equipment to be replaced
loss of the european gas market
massive economic contraction - due to lack of foreign investment
break down in industrial equipment
don't fly in Russia NOW
there's almost a DAILY plane malfunction with near crash happening
crashes aren't even announced
20% decline in Russian GDP since Crimean invasion due to increasing sanctions
and here was Russia with Exxon/Mobile and Rex Tillerson
shaking hands over all that Russian arctic oil
that was the biggest business deal $500 billion, in the history of the world
and then it all came crashing down
and the wall
came tumbling...
tumbling, down...
thanks to Trump, Manafort, Flynn and Roger Stone
and Charles McGonigal, the lead investigator for the FBI's Cyber Intelligence Unit
was being paid by the people he was supposed to be investigating
and he is the one, who forced the FBI to go public about hillary's emails, a week before the election
get it, dewd was bein paid by Russians
http://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-special-agent-charge-new-york-fbi-counterintelligence-division-charged-violating
hillarys emails were hacked by Russians
ya still don't get it?
that plus the Internet Research Agency was all Putin needed to get Trump elected
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Putin's whole future timeline with Trump, just took a MAJOR hit, due to the recent announcement banning the Trump Org from doing business OF ANY KIND in NY State
on top of previously banning the Trump family from operating ANY kind of charity, and that they literally stole money from kids with cancer
and Trump is facing a 250 million USD$ fine...
oh, and 91 felony indictments!!!!
but other than that, how was the play Mrs Lincoln!!!
Trump's latest case is due to the company being a complete fraud "from beginning to end"
and this is just a single drop in the bucket of trouble that's coming Trump's way
and by extension the Republican Party
step right up ladys and gentle-man
and see the age-old struggle between GOOD and EVIL
do you still have faith in such polarities
or is your FAITH more "nuanced"
of id vrs ego vrs super ego
stochastic and individual
that leads to a black and white outcome
from the gray shadows that play across it
but sniff the air
it's ELECTRIC!
you can already sense the gathering storm
what lies on the other side of those dark clouds?
in a few short years we will all know
BUT...
I'll know before ya'll will
the sequence
A plague
A war
A kingdom divided
handwriting is on the wall
Novichok and Neutron Bombs
BZ gas in the St Petes Theater
armed fake electors take over the government run by a real estate tycoon
in the near future, instead of hundreds of individual drone operators separately piloting single drones
there will be an AI that powers ALL OF THEM, from 1 to thousands all at the same time, everywhere at once
shipping containers of drones delivered and launched a few days later
very high kill ratios
and they're flying in the THOUSANDS
and new ones come, day after day, after day
fresh off robotic drone assembly lines running 24/7
the AI lives in a HUGE GLASS CUBE in a place called Odenton, Maryland
about 2 miles south of there, on the other side of the freeway
is where Russians have special Radio Transmitters
that transmit through large copper rods into the earth
that are hidden in the trees and bushes
next to the Patuxant River
Postscript
Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752
Mossad was SUPER PISSED!!! They just found out that some enterprising Ukrainian Biznessman sold Iran not only a small number of long range nuclear cruise missiles
but also the complete blueprints for mfg and even blueprints for the mfg facility!!!
EVERYTHING they needed to make a nuclear delivery system capable of hitting Israel from Iran, at a time Palestinians were already aiming rocksts at Israeli civilians
I was pretty confident Iron Dome would handle them, but Mossad was REALLY, REALLY PISSED
and wanted the whole thing stopped immediately
a round-about parlez with USA on this subject didn't go anywhere...
then "the network" picked up the fact that all the Ukrainian principles were flying to Tehran for a top level business meeting
and Mossad saw that as an opportunity
and they "wacked" those Ukrainian MFers
by using a Tor "spoofer"
i.e. literally took over the signal processing of the Tor-1 missile launcher
and caused it to shoot Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752 on its return flight
and that put an end to any further "collaboration" between Iran and Ukraine
this is the power of "Software Defined Radio"
and BABY
you ain't seen nothing YET
2-3 more years from now, the Electronic Warfare Capabilities of cutting edge hardware/software
vrs old Soviet Kakashka
will be like a wooden club vrs an AK-47
the USA is learnin a lot about the future in this war
it may be the first hybrid war of it's kind
but it sure won't be the last
like Russia, a lot of our military is based around fighting WWII
which ain't gonna happen that way again
we are going to be making RADICAL changes to how we fight wars, by the end of this century
and Ukraine is gonna be the first step....
will the use of tactical nuclear weapons or Chemical Weapons
be the next step
both of these offer a HUGE cost/benefit gain, compared to the use of conventional military forces
chemical weapons can only be used in Ukraine from early May, to end of Sept
Russia seems to be prepping some kind of nuke related event
possibly a public test
before a Russian nuclear attack
they will focus all their offensive capability against Ukrainin airdefenses
including using their own aircraft as decoys and also to engage radar ground target
once Ukraine's air defenses are degraded
they will hit Ukraine's military with 3 waves of 30 warheads of 2 KT neutron bombs that weigh about 100 pounds apiece
that take out all major permanent central bases and primary logistics depos
i.e. takes out the rear
you then have your forces retreat 5 km away from the enemy
Ukraine can't pursue, cuz there's 2 mines per sw meter in front of them
THEY'RE STUCK
so after your troops are 5 km away, you nuke the Ukrainian front-line with another 30 nukes
you wait 48 hours then you attack with everything you have to outflank them and then hit their rear, which THEY already de-mined!!!
weather permitting
you call chemical troops with TOS-! multi-barreled launchers
and toss Novichok and thermo baric bombs
who've been picked up with infra-red FLIR drones looking for 'heat signatures' on the ground
and then call out the GPS coordinates
of the soldiers who are about to die
you give every single Russian soldat
"V"mpyl
V is katamine with a strong steroid
that makes you totally wired for about 8 hours
you get so into it, you will kill cats and birds as well as pimply faced teenagers
because every time you do you and your friends all laugh
and you're all keepin score of who killed how many of what
ak-74s are one sweet weapon
and rpk-74 even better
you can carry huge amounts of ammo
gun never jams, EVER (Tula Quality - Chrome lined)
5.45x39 I use really HOT russian ammo with steel core
the optiks you can get now for an AK-74
are MUCH better than the old old scoped Mosin you see in Soviet films
and then of couse, there's NIGHT VISION
and the latest which is full-color night vision
with high quality optical magnification
that also switches to a FLIR mode
and you look for "heat signatures"
while you hide beneath a camoflaged thermal blanket
Note To Russians!
Don't eat your own "dog Food"
i.e. the whole Russian myth of the "master killer" Russian soldier with a "criminal" background, is what led to the creation of Wagner
it just resonated so WELL with Russians
but this myth, was their own creation in the first place, in early Post Soviet Russia, remember those days? Leningrad Cowboy Days, Yeltsin getting drunk and falling...
the early reformation of Russian manhood
ahhhh.....
good times
and of course Brat Dva
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Putin's whole future timeline with Trump, just took a MAJOR hit, due to the recent announcement banning the Trump Org from doing business OF ANY KIND in NY State
and facing a 250 million USD$ fine...
all due to the company being a complete fraud "from beginning to end"
and this is just a single drop in the bucket that's coming Trump's way
and by extension the Republican Party
step right up ladys and gentle-man
and see the age-old struggle between GOOD and EVIL
do you still have faith in such polarities
or is your FAITH more "nuanced"
of id vrs ego vrs super ego
stochastic and individual
that leads to a black and white outcome
of the gray shadows that play across it
but sniff the air
you can already sense the gathering storm
what lies on the other side of those dark clouds?
in a few short years we will all know
BUT...
I'll know before ya'll will
the sequence
A plague
A war
A kingdom divided
handwriting is on the wall
Novichok and Neutron Bombs
BZ gas in the St Petes Theater
armed fake electors take over the government run by a real estate tycoon
in the near future, instead of hundreds of individual drone operators separately piloting single drones
there will be an AI that powers ALL OF THEM, from 1 to thousands all at the same time, everywhere at once
shipping containers of drones delivered and launched a few days later
very high kill ratios
and they're flying in the THOUSANDS
the AI lives in a HUGE GLASS CUBE in a place called Odenton, Maryland
about 2 miles south of there, on the other side of the freeway
is where Russians have special Radio Transmitters
that transmit through large copper rods into the earth
that are hidden in the trees and bushes
next to the Patuxant River
Postscript
Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752
Mossad was SUPER PISSED!!! They just found out that some enterprising Ukrainian Biznessman sold Iran not only a small number of long range nuclear cruise missiles
but also the complete blueprints for mfg and even blueprints for the mfg facility!!!
EVERYTHING they needed to make a nuclear delivery system capable of hitting Israel from Iran, at a time Palestinians were already aiming rocksts at Israeli civilians
I was pretty confident Iron Dome would handle them, but Mossad was REALLY, REALLY PISSED
and wanted the whole thing stopped immediately
a round-about parlez with USA on this subject didn't go anywhere...
then "the network" picked up the fact that all the Ukrainian principles were flying to Tehran for a top level business meeting
and Mossad saw that as an opportunity
and they "wacked" those Ukrainian MFers
by using a Tor "spoofer"
i.e. literally took over the signal processing of the Tor-1 missile launcher
and caused it to shoot Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752 on its return flight
and that put an end to any further "collaboration" between Iran and Ukraine
this is the power of "Software Defined Radio"
and BABY
you ain't seen nothing YET
2-3 more years from now, the Electronic Warfare Capabilities of cutting edge hardware/software
vrs old Soviet Kakashka
will be like a wooden club vrs an AK-47
the USA is learnin a lot about the future in this war
it may be the first hybrid war of it's kind
but it sure won't be the last
like Russia, a lot of our military is based around fighting WWII
which ain't gonna happen that way again
we are going to be making RADICAL changes to how we fight wars, by the end of this century
and Ukraine is gonna be the first step....
will the use of tactical nuclear weapons or Chemical Weapons
be the next step
both of these offer a HUGE cost/benefit gain, compared to the use of conventional military forces
chemical weapons can only be used in Ukraine from early May, to end of Sept
Russia seems to be prepping some kind of nuke related event
possibly a public test
before a Russian nuclear attack
they will focus all their offensive capability against Ukrainin airdefenses
including using their own aircraft as decoys and also to engage radar ground target
once Ukraine's air defenses are degraded
they will hit Ukraine's military with 3 waves of 30 warheads of 2 KT neutron bombs that weigh about 100 pounds apiece
that take out all major permanent central bases and primary logistics depos
i.e. takes out the rear
you then have your forces retreat 5 km away from the enemy
Ukraine can't pursue, cuz there's 2 mines per sw meter in front of them
THEY'RE STUCK
so after your troops are 5 km away, you nuke the Ukrainian front-line with another 30 nukes
you wait 48 hours then you attack with everything you have to outflank them and then hit their rear, which THEY already de-mined!!!
weather permitting
you call chemical troops with TOS-! multi-barreled launchers
and toss Novichok and thermo baric bombs
who've been picked up with infra-red FLIR drones looking for 'heat signatures' on the ground
and then call out the GPS coordinates
of the soldiers who are about to die
you give every single Russian soldat
"V"mpyl
V is katamine with a strong steroid
that makes you totally wired for about 8 hours
you get so into it, you will kill cats and birds as well as pimply faced teenagers
because every time you do you and your friends all laugh
and you're all keepin score of who killed how many of what
ak-74s are one sweet weapon
and rpk-74 even better
you can carry huge amounts of ammo
gun never jams, EVER (Tula Quality - Chrome lined)
5.45x39 I use really HOT russian ammo with steel core
the optiks you can get now for an AK-74
are MUCH better than the old old scoped Mosin you see in Soviet films
and then of couse, there's NIGHT VISION
and the latest which is full-color night vision
with high quality optical magnification
that also switches to a FLIR mode
and you look for "heat signatures"
while you hide beneath a camoflaged thermal blanket
Note To Russians!
Don't eat your own "dog Food"
i.e. the whole Russian myth of the "master killer" Russian soldier with a "criminal" background, is what led to the creation of Wagner
it just resonated so WELL with Russians
but this myth, was their own creation in the first place, in early Post Soviet Russia, remember those days? Leningrad Cowboy Days, Yeltsin getting drunk and falling...
the early reformation of Russian manhood
ahhhh.....
good times
and of course Brat Dva
Are you off your meds again???
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aye!
top 'o the mornin to ya guvner!
tis a fine day, NO?
me meds ye be inquiring 'bout?
Well, I have begun a marijuana eradication program
I have been slowly burning their crops
but, other than that
I sometimes like to lick the lithium strip inside this old Lithium battery I have...
nothing much more than what nature endowed me with
maybe...
I'm NOT the one who is CRAZY
but YOU ARE!!!
and if that's TRUE, how would YOU even know....
ehhhhh?
can YOU prove YOU AREN'T CRAZY?
and if you can't prove it...
does that in fact mean "YOU ARE CRAZY"
and whatever you respond with
I am 100% sure that there will not "be a proof"
anywhere in your reply
showing evidence of you being sane
therefor, I challenge you, sir
to pistols at 20 paces
and I shall aim at your tenny tiny cod piece
while my cod piece on the other hand, will wrap me in a tender embrace
and would be willing to take a bullet for me
and owing to it's ENORMOUS girth, the bullet would barely scratch it!
Meds?
I don't NEED no stinkin meds!!!!
I hereby absolve EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE, of their sins!
where's my cookie?
did YOU take my cookie?
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aye!
top 'o the mornin to ya guvner!
tis a fine day, NO?
me meds ye be inquiring 'bout?
Well, I have begun a marijuana eradication program
I have been slowly burning their crops
but, other than that
I sometimes like to lick the lithium strip inside this old Lithium battery I have...
nothing much more than what nature endowed me with
maybe...
I'm NOT the one who is CRAZY
but YOU ARE!!!
and if that's TRUE, how would YOU even know....
ehhhhh?
can YOU prove YOU AREN'T CRAZY?
and if you can't prove it...
does that in fact mean "YOU ARE CRAZY"
and whatever you respond with
I am 100% sure that there will not "be a proof"
anywhere in your reply
showing evidence of you being sane
therefor, I challenge you, sir
to pistols at 20 paces
and I shall aim at your tenny tiny cod piece
while my cod piece on the other hand, will wrap me in a tender embrace
and would be willing to take a bullet for me
and owing to it's ENORMOUS girth, the bullet would barely scratch it!
Meds?
I don't NEED no stinkin meds!!!!
I hereby absolve EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE, of their sins!
where's my cookie?
did YOU take my cookie?
Yep, I thought as much.
Watch out for the white coats. They’re coming to get you back to your comfy padded room.
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do THEY have MY COOKIE?
some cookies go together very nicely with a cuppa Earl Grey, just after dawn falls upon the glen
Lord Help Us, if they ALWAYS serve us Dahrljeerling, such a BORE...
doesn't ANYONE go to Kensington anymore and return to us with the necessities of a civilized life?
If so, here's a shopping list, and a 1000 quid, about 4 bags worth from Harrods Food Court
left over sterling is for your uber and you keep the rest + 200 more as tip
cuz sheeeet holmes, I got the munchies "BAD"
and could use a caviar and sushi run to Harrod's Food Court
when my daughters were little girls they'd buy their clothes there
which was actually cheaper than the smaller shops just outside on Kensington
a simple Irish Wool Scarf, nothing at all fancy would you set you back 1300 pounds
In Paris, a custom tailored winter Parka for a little girl cost $4500
but it was to freakin "die for"
In America, you have walmart and target and costco after you're married
when you live in American suburbia, you have to recalibrate downward from Europe...
In America, Nordstrom and Whole Foods are the last vestige of the American dream
standing next to Disney
at the unemployment office
a hard rain gonna fall one day
a hard rain gonna fall
as the American dream
becomes a nightmare
next year, when forces collide
on the battle field
which one shall yield
like on some Autumn Dallas Day
the crosshairs of destiny
pointed to the back of his head
which one shall yield?
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Well looks like the much hyped Ukrainian counter offensive has failed. We're into October now and winter with Ukraine only taking a couple of towns and some villages. Russia much the same along other parts of the line. Meanwhile apparently western stockpiles of ammunition are running low with which to give Ukraine:
Western ammo stocks at ‘bottom of the barrel’ as Ukraine war drags on, NATO official warns
http://www.cnn.com/2023/10/04/europe/uk-nato-ukraine-war-ammunition-intl-hnk-ml
That means western nations are going to have to dig into their pockets to pay for more and that's going to sting some with western governments heavily in debt after COVID. My guess is that they will and winter may lessen the rate at which munitions are used but for how long? Not a good sign for Ukraine with perhaps a year to go before Russia starts falling short of Armaments and possibly munitions.
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no...
it isn't
Ukraine is primarily targeting Russia's Artillery and missile launchers (including ships)
the fact that Russia is relocating the Black Sea Naval Force, out of sevastopol, to be out of range of Ukrainian drones, is an indication of how successful this has been
Bakhmut, was a Russian killing zone
cuz Putin won't let them retreat
so the Russians are down in the lowlands
and the Ukrainians have the high ground
where they just keep chopping up the Russians
Russia has lost more than 1/4 of all their artillery and missile launchers
they can replace soldiers
there's an infinite amount of land
but they can't replace the artillery which is essential
when Russian equipment levels are down to some level
then, the offensive begins
they don't have to "take" Crimea
just have a good blockade and cut them off completely
they cannot survive
forcing them to surrender
meanwhile, Russia and the USA are having SIMULTANEOUS nation-wide "emergency drills"
this is NOT a coincidence
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It is now, it's switched tactics or rather expanded on what they have noticed is working more effectively. However, their goal of advancing at least near Crimea and perhaps retaking Melitopol and/or Mariupol has fallen woefully short. Instead they've found their Counter-offensive blunted on a defensive walk of land mines and fortifications this year at least.
Next year, next Spring brings the opportunity for a new Counter-offensive. However with winter soon setting in both sides have stated they will be conducting a winter offensive. In reality that is likely to fall down to missile strikes as you state Krim. Whether either side will be softened up enough for the either side to push on through on the ground come spring remains to be seen.
For the West I still firmly believe that they are playing the long game and holding back on giving Ukraine enough to knock Russia out one blow fearing repercussions from the Russians, i.e neutron bombs. I think the West at the moment is probably finding it quite a big boon to see Russia's artillery being destroyed but by bit. The Russians seem to base their war strategy on overpowering with their huge arsenal of artillery like they did in Syria, with that gone or seriously diminished their ability to conduct that sort of land warfare again goes particularly if their economy becomes so busted as to be difficult to manufacture a lot of artillery pieces again. Already Russia has lost most of their tanks that are still able to roll out of their rusting backstock. Once the artillery is gone then indeed it should prove easier to push the Russians back.
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With the strong sanctions the West enacted against them, Russia is now in a vulnerable position as they have lost all pricing power they had with China and India, currently their largest customers.
Even while Russia is able to sell to China and India, they demand hefty price discounts for the oil and gas they receive as they know that Russia is unable to sell to Western markets.
on top of that, they don't currently have the infrastructure in place, to switch gas delivery from Europe to go to Asia instead...
result: big drop in Russian gas/oil shipments, big drop in price and income, while America waltzes in with LNG terminals and LNG shipping, and eats Russia's lunch!
The USA now CONTROLS Europe's Gas Business and NOT RUSSIA
The multi-billions $USD Russians spent on european infrastructure is NOW worthless
the North Arctic gas and oil fields that Exxon/Mobile leased, now sit idle
since 2014, Russia's GDP has FALLEN 20%
Russia's population is less today than what it was 20 yr ago
In the Russian Far East, Russians are fleeing to the Western Russian Cities, because living conditions are "so harsh" there
and they're being replaced by illegal Chinese Immigrants who are EVERYWHERE THERE now!!
the war has taken a dis-proportionate amount of young men from this area, who can't afford to be permanent college students,
Why YES, I am working on my second PHD, Officer, have a good day!!!
DA, Dobre Den Suka!
and of course, any smart Russian, especially wealthy ones, have at least gotten their kids the hell out of Russia, like I have and my in-laws have
and for that, I'm grateful to Putin...
cuz my klan is WITH ME now
and the life of a Patriarch, is a pretty damned good one!
commoners "bow and scrape" before thee...
to all you little tiny microscopic haters on this board...
this BUD's for YOU!!!
if flingin your hate and anger towards me makes you happy
then why do you reactionary knuckleheads ALWAYS SEEM SO DAMNED SAD?
especially when I "Troll You!
you ALWAYS snap at the bait
and then I reel you in, laugh at ya, pull the hook out, and throw ya back in the Sewage Infested River you call "Home"
deep down inside...
I'm just a simple Texas JOO Boy who like's fishin for Rednecks, it's a very relaxing past-time!!!
a bottle of iced chilled Pilsner, and some Panama Red
and my redneck trollin rod...
I could spend all day, catchin me some Rednecks, and just kick back, relaxin, enjoying the simple things that life has to offer...
yep...
g'head, shoot at me all ya want
I can withstand all the slings and arrows that you cast upon me
and still stand strong and victorious amidst the surrounding ruins
JUST as the photo shows!!!!
oh SNAP!!! HOMEBOYZ!!!!
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Interesting article on Russian influence in the attack on Israel-
http://www.ynetnews.com/article/sj0dtokba
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The Rude Beast Is Slouching Towards Bethleham
as I have told ya'll MANY times
ahhh.....
light one up, and I can dream....
That Israel would go nuclear against Iran before Russia does against Ukraine
48 hrs later and there's no more Iran and no more Iranian nuke and missiles
no more Islamic state and Hamas and Hezbollah lose their funding
THIS TIME...
Israel should take their Palestinian counter-attack ALL THE WAY
destroy EVERY Hamas asset, even a falafal cart
cripple Palestinian infrastructure
no electricity, no water, no gas, close ALL checkpoints
shut them down
make them feel the pain
and keep makin 'em feel it
but free exit visas and transport outta the country, bye Felicia!
but...
unfortunately, Israel gave up their AMMO stockpile reserve to Ukraine
doesn't "all this" start lookin like a chessboard now
one side makes a move, then the other side makes a countermove...
Israel gives up its ammo, THEN Israel is attacked
this is what good plannin and coordination between Intelligence Agencies can do!
incrementalism...until THE BIG SURPRIZE!!!!!!
you have to ALWAYS be willing to treat captives as though they're dead
not every situation is Entebbe
think ONLY about avenging them 100 fold...
THIS is what USA should've done after 9-11
go on a killin spree in the middle east w/ nukes and leveled Iran
Have a live TV broadcast with a roulette wheel with the name of Iranian Cities
have a pretty model spin the wheel
and whatever city the wheel points to...
you drop a nuke on it on live TV!!!
AFTER, you nuked EVERY single Iranian Nuclear asset and military base ALL AT THE SAME TIME
The Nuclear War Era
is much closer than you think
OTOH, I'm a Novichok and biotoxin guy...
kinda "quaint" and old-fashioned ya might say...
a nuclear weapon is the ultimate asymetrical weapon
after the first one is used, there will be an avalanche of them after...
the destruction will accumulate faster than anyone can even see
expensive, large standing armies will be obsolete....
a small professional force with tactical nukes
then LATER, an AI system with nukes and assassins
the next two years is an historical inflection point...
kinda like the end of the 1930s
will we stop the fascists?
or will they stop us?
who has Russia sent from Minsk this time?
another...like him?
and the FSB officer in the Russian embassy in Mexico City...
what branch of the Russian military was he in?
PS
Russia's most successful political science successes are:
1 The Kennedy assassination
2 Using russian hacked emails and Russia's bribe to FBI official to release bogus details about Hillary right before the election to help Trump
Russia ALMOST succeeded in getting Ukraine to join the Commonwealth of Independent States 10 yr ago
If Ukraine had become a full member of the Commonwealth of Independent States, pre 2014
this war would never have happened
instead, Russian oligarchs would be runnin Ukraine directly, instead of indirectly
Now, there is MUCH more at stake than in 2016 for Russia
they will take even bigger risks next yr
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Moldova’s pro-European president, Maia Sandu, said Russia’s Wagner paramilitary force was the main force behind an attempt to foment a coup against her. She told the Financial Times in an interview published on Friday that Wagner’s late leader Yevgeny Prigozhin was behind the bid to overthrow her and that Moscow remained engaged in attempts to destabilise the country, located between Ukraine and EU member Romania, notably by funnelling money into Moldova to bribe voters in next month’s local elections.
The FT article is pay walled.
http://www.ft.com/content/1e317be3-1837-45da-beef-be0347937fd9
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/moldovan-president-says-russias-wagner-head-plotted-coup-against-her-ft-2023-10-06/
http://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/moldovan-president-says-russias-wagner-head-plotted-coup-against-her/
http://www.politico.eu/article/moldova-president-maia-sandu-yevgeny-prigozhin-wagner-group-coup/
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the chessboard is definitely bigger than just Ukraine
Israel has been added
we got Armenia
we got Moldova and Georgia
we got Syria
we got Wagner in Africa - and they just lost an IL-76 cargo plane!
and of course Russia and Ukraine
we can expect North Korea and China to also make moves now...
it's all buildin towards the end of next year
about two days from now, about half of Israel's total Army is going to mobilize and invade and occupy ALL of Gaza
and seize every weapon, and kill/capture every Gaza Hamas fighter
the place will be leveled, cuz every sq meter is gonna be fought for
afterwards...
all tunnels sealed, all weapons mfg bulldozed
every building with a sniper shelled by tanks
The end of Gaza...
thousands and thousands and thousands of them dead
almost all of them are homeless
if Iranian cruise missiles strike Israel during this time
Israel will destroy Iran's nuclear infrastructure with USA's help
so a war within another war!
will the saudis join us/israel or not?
this'll be the biggest ground war for Israel since the Yom Kippur war in '73
Israel must destroy all tunnels, weapon production/storage and confiscate all weapons, and kill or capture all who are armed in Gaza without exception
but...
what you guys don't see, is what Israel is showin over and over to the soldiers it just mobilized
the videos of dead teenaged israeli girls, stripped naked and their corpses abused by crowds of islamic men
and little kidnapped frightened israeli kids beaten by adults with sticks
but EVERY Israeli soldier has SEEN this over and over (their commanders make sure of it)
and that's WHY it's gonna be a freakin massacre
soon as the IDF moves in to Gaza and the shootin starts
it'll turn more into a "feeding frenzy" than a fight
if I were Arab livin in Gaza, i'd GTF outta there ASAP!!!!
I would not sleep in any of that crappy construction over there, cuz it'll be your tomb
sleep only outside
in some place not visible from the air
and make a straight line to the nearest Exit and RUN as fast as you can!!!!
if you leave RIGHT NOW!
you might just make it out in time
otherwise...
retribution is coming
and it will strike thee down with FURIOUS ANGER...
meanwhile pay Hamas to NOT shoot rockets from your neighborhood
and pick some other poorer neighborhood instead
and they get blown up by Israeli counter-missiles and NOT you!
that's what I'm here for...
to help you people...
cuz. i'm a "giver"
if YOU GENUINELY accept the consequences for all of mankind's sins
and you are willing to lay down your life as secular punisment for mankind's sins
can you turn that into a tax-free business shelter?
Asking for a friend...
Jesus Saves!
Now So Can You!
By Creating Your Very Own Church!!!!
gott is mitt uns
and GLOVES!!!
No More Cold Hands or Heart!
Prosperity Gospel Baby
nothin but Blue Skies, from now on...
basking in the glory of God's ETERNAL LOVE
which is like SUNSHINE
to help your heart GROW
as well as your bank account
the good lord, helps those
who HELP THEMSELVES
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Check the soldiers, Trench.
What can you possibly offer?
http://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/17b8sf2/ukrainian_soldiers_on_the_battlefield/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb
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Trench can offer an "off-ramp" from the Ukraine war...
no Ukrainian man can do that
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Check the soldiers, Trench.
What can you possibly offer?
http://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/17b8sf2/ukrainian_soldiers_on_the_battlefield/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb
Lol, yes they are female Ukrainian soldiers and many foxy looking ones :P
However none of them are in the front line, it's all for show for 'the gram'. A lot of posing it up, they may or may not be signed up (some may just be donning the army gear for fun) but even if they are like I said way back the Army will offer them behind the lines support roles. They may be way, way behind the lines as guards to military sites, at checkpoints etc, stuff just to free up make soldiers for the front. In that they are of course useful but it's not dangerous front line stuff, just posey stuff for the camera.
I know a few females do volunteer for the front but they are extremely few in number and rarely the pretty girls we see here in this video. Yes an exception can always be fished out here or there. I don't blame these girls in life you are born a certain way and these girls while they could go on the front line it's not really their scene, yes they could get with it and either survive or not but they aren't initially the usual sort of material that go for that stuff.
Why these girls are doing this stuff for the camera? is another issue.
Are they just doing it for fun, obviously for the Posey pictures, but because they want a Ukrainian Soldier? Or are trying to entice Ukrainian men to enlist? Who knows. I doubt they are really with it in terms of the situation men are facing at the front and I think they will please themselves. Soldier girl pin up today, foreign man seeker tommorow.
I'm not saying they are devious or can't be trusted as such, many women have legitimate reasons to be abroad from the war, problems & issues why they can't be in Ukraine. Some suffer too badly from sounds of bombardment or have children where the parents don't wish to risk being randomly killed by a drone that slip through, etc.
I think Krim is right, there are different women that want different things and some Ukrainian guys are just not going to suit all Ukrainian women not because they aren't decent guys but because of circumstance and that can be the deciding factor.
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Russia's attempt to outflank the West's support for Ukraine
by funding Hama's attack on Israel....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sanctioned-but-unstopped-is-russia-using-garantex-to-politically-distract-from-its-ukrainian-stalemate/ar-AA1iuhTF?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e101bdc87cd241d295cc2f0618b42285&ei=57
if the US economy is faltering due to elevated petrol costs
then Nov 2024 is a MAJOR opportunity for Putin
even better than what it was for the Soviets in Nov 1963
maybe a symbolic political assassination
can be even more effective than an actual one
for example, "Hillary's emails" was entirely engineered by the kremlin (russians hacking, and bribing FBI to "leak" before election)
slovo te mamichka
weird thought:
when Putin dies, will one of his "body doubles" take his place
will there be a never ending line of Putin doubles, effectively making Putin immortal
there is not a single country in the world that is prepared for a MAJOR WAR
so I don't believe we're getting WW3 now
but sometime in the future
after everybody starts rearming
which has already started
and it looks like WW3 will be a limited nuclear war
and NOT armegeddon
if you compare our timeline to WWII
I think we're in the early 30s now
later there will be even more wars when climate change triggers famines, etc
Our brand is Crisis
we are going from a land of plenty
to one of scarcity
a lot of folks are gonna be REALLY unhappy in the future
chaos ensues
helter skelter in the bomb shelter
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Trench can offer an "off-ramp" from the Ukraine war...
no Ukrainian man can do that
A woman who enrols as a soldier in the UAF in all likelihood isn’t looking for an off ramp.
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Lol, yes they are female Ukrainian soldiers and many foxy looking ones :P
However none of them are in the front line, it's all for show for 'the gram'. A lot of posing it up, they may or may not be signed up (some may just be donning the army gear for fun) but even if they are like I said way back the Army will offer them behind the lines support roles. They may be way, way behind the lines as guards to military sites, at checkpoints etc, stuff just to free up make soldiers for the front. In that they are of course useful but it's not dangerous front line stuff, just posey stuff for the camera.
I know a few females do volunteer for the front but they are extremely few in number and rarely the pretty girls we see here in this video. Yes an exception can always be fished out here or there. I don't blame these girls in life you are born a certain way and these girls while they could go on the front line it's not really their scene, yes they could get with it and either survive or not but they aren't initially the usual sort of material that go for that stuff.
Why these girls are doing this stuff for the camera? is another issue.
Are they just doing it for fun, obviously for the Posey pictures, but because they want a Ukrainian Soldier? Or are trying to entice Ukrainian men to enlist? Who knows. I doubt they are really with it in terms of the situation men are facing at the front and I think they will please themselves. Soldier girl pin up today, foreign man seeker tommorow.
I'm not saying they are devious or can't be trusted as such, many women have legitimate reasons to be abroad from the war, problems & issues why they can't be in Ukraine. Some suffer too badly from sounds of bombardment or have children where the parents don't wish to risk being randomly killed by a drone that slip through, etc.
I think Krim is right, there are different women that want different things and some Ukrainian guys are just not going to suit all Ukrainian women not because they aren't decent guys but because of circumstance and that can be the deciding factor.
Untrue. There are women on the frontline. One featured in the link posted regularly from Bakhmut last year, when Wagner forces were there. That’s where her unit was.
Frankly I am surprised you’re even considering Ukraine, given how risk adverse/suspicious of motivations you are.
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"A woman who enrols as a soldier in the UAF in all likelihood isn’t looking for an off ramp."
not yet....
but after next year, every single one of em will be
cuz they don't wanna get thyroid cancer from the fallout
ummmm hmmmmmm
why does everyone feel the future is just a continuation of the present?
that the tree will keep bending in the wind and not break one day soon
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Untrue. There are women on the frontline. One featured in the link posted regularly from Bakhmut last year, when Wagner forces were there. That’s where her unit was.
Frankly I am surprised you’re even considering Ukraine, given how risk adverse/suspicious of motivations you are.
Some of them may be in the UAF, but there are assault & counter assault troops on the front line then there are all the support troops of varying types near but behind them. A news reporter role or a quick poke up the front isn't quite the same. I'm not saying a few don't serve at the front but many/most won't.
You kind of got to be able to differentiate between the two, the real deal and not the real deal.
In the video these girls are all wearing clean fresh uniform free off damage, dirt, etc. Guys right at the front have worn, damaged uniform, dirt from the trenches, are weary and tired and had to sleep rough, etc.
These girls are free from any of that. The footage is obviously put on just for the purpose of tarting it up. There are no enemy there, the one who is firing is firing into the thin air, there is nothing there.
When I briefly worked for the MOD from way back there was an office girl, quite pretty, young like these girls. They dressed her up in army fatigues one day and slapped a helmet on her like one of these girls. She looked just the same, that's more than these girls look like, they are dressed up and playing the part but they are not the real deal.
If they had been at the front seeing their own killed, limbs blown off and distress every where they wouldn't be the cheery sorts we see here. They would most likely be very affected by it and in no mood to act it up soldier girl style.
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best way to make russia a much more chill place
is to allow chornie ludie (black people) to live there
it will have a major transformative effect as this video shows
http://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/1752m6r/best_music_video_ever/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
this is the RU I can grove on
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my incomplete confession
tune-in turn-on and kill and tell
Russians got "V" which is ketamine cut with benzidrine - a disassociative and a stimulant!
you will be wired as all hell, and will have instant reactions and be SUPER ALERT and have a lot of stamina for runnin, etc
no sense of fear - only PURE ADRENALIN!!!
and ya won't fall asleep either, like on guard duty, but ya might start to hallucinate about seein stuff in the dark
especially after you been takin those drugs for awhile, ya know what I'm sayin?
haha
OTOH, Hamas has captagon
http://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-769250
a MUCH inferior version of what Russia uses
you can EASILY buy all this in the market in southern uzbekistan (though I'm not sure why you'd want to)
the cross-border ones with Afghanistan
gives you access to ALL KINDS of AMAZING STUFF like real freakin Opium for example!
20 USD$ will buy you a big strip of raw black tar opium in a plastic baggie, enuff to stay comfortably numb for about two weeks
you could dissolve it in alchhol, or ingest it, or smoke it
I preferred to smoke a mixture of raw opium and blond hashish, especially at night when it was raining
it sharpened me up, for the old ultra-violence as well
a dis-inhibitor, to let the beast out to play
time zone in the hunter's favor
a wide awake nocturnal hunter in search of night time prey
and then a deep sleep all the next day
but for you westerners to go to this market, especially NOW, 100% ya gotta be with at least two other beefy locals (who you hire as guides/drivers/interpreter)
and you gotta dress local, and keep your damned mouth shut in public, until you learn some Uzbek
i've had both of these military stimulants in various forms over the years, but prefer hashish and adderall (much more "civilized and refined" than those crude ones intended for the lower ranks!)
cuz I don't fight so much as just plain assasinate (especially at my age)
so my job description, has very different needs when compared to a soldier
the most physical thing I have to do is walk fast...
BUT...
be VERY "situationally aware" hyper aware
of the exact moment to act, with perfect timing
30 sec later I'm a block away, and have completely different clothes and hair on
and then I get a taxi outta there, and speak with a fake accent to the taxi driver
smokin hash gets rid of the anxiety that naturally comes whenever you do this
the addrenalin you feel, when ya "walk up" behind someone
especially for the first time, the tightness you feel in your stomach when you're just steps away
and all the strong emotions you feel and have to deal with after
adderall not only helps with focus, but it also helps with lack of sleep from the night before and the night after
subsonic .22 ammo to be used with a suppressor
pistol makes a little "pop" sound
whole thing, whip it out, fire it, put it away, 3 seconds tops
and a straight perpendicular shot into the center of the back of the head from about 3-4 feet (helps that I'm tall, and look down on most people)
my "disguise" is to use makeup and clothes and a gray wig to make me look 10-15 yr older
nobody pays any attention to a senior citizen, they're invisible
every dawg has his day achmed
be seein ya'll
paka
haha
i'm just kiddin about all this, right?
hmmm hmmmm
PS
if ya go to the southern uzbekistan market
it's pure freakin financial chaos as well as EVERY other kind, ya gotta play your "A" game
you may end up having to deal with half a dozen different local currencies depending on the vendor and which side of the market you're on
plus doing FOREX between multiples of them, big mess
this is where your "brat" comes in handy, cuz THEY handle the transaction, and you pay them a commision, and they're THRILLED, cuz they made a years wages in a day's trading
by workin with you, and these dewds are now your brothers for life
they will take you through everything, step-by-step first, they make the deal, when a price is set, they say, "we'll be back in 3 min with the money" this is SOP there, how THEY do bizness
you go out and discretely find a sheltered spot and shell out the cash and go back in
and do the deal,
BIG GRINS all around!!!
you bow and say "assalomu alaykum"
but if you pay your "brat" 10% of net profit, you still make plenty
and once you sell that load, you need to contact them to setup your next run
eveentually you can start thinkin about havin your own place there
just sayin...
you dumb phuques could be havin some freakin AMAZING adventures there
and the wimmin are OMG and so MANY different kinds, and almost no REAL competition
you can date WAY, WAY outside your legue there!!
get yourself GIA certified, I don't know the current price, google it
go to gem shows and start pricing raw emeralds
after a year of doin this then go to uzbekistan and start shoppin in the gem market
the ABSOLUTE BEST highest quality stones i've ever seen, some still in the matrix, for pennies on the dollar for what they're worth in the USA or Europe
so set whatever dollar amount ya wanna spend
and then multiply that number by 50
when you get it "back home"
subtract your expenses to get your net - and give your druzya 10% of this amount in $USD
you just gotta figure out how to hide 'em on your way back
and I sure as hell ain't gonna hand out my way holmes
my mama didn't raise NO FOOL!!
none the less, to those who have actual testicles
you can have an AMAZING TIME THERE!!!
EVERYTHING there will blow your mind!!!
it really is like being in some other "new reality"
Tashkent has really transformed from the 90s when I first went
now it's a very comfortable city, for Americans at least, to be in due to the presence of US hotel chains with english speakin staff
not too hard to hire interpreters, drivers, etc through hotel
if ya wanted, it wouldn't be difficult to get a "sleeping dictionary"
besides being your interpreter, she will be your cook, you can go grocery shopping with her, and pay the bills, and throw out the garbage, and that's pretty much it...
oh...
uh, yeah, she's also gonna sleep in the same bed as you
WTF is NOT to like about this arrangment?
a scrumptious girl who snuggles up against you in bed
what monthly salary + room and board, use of car, etc would you be willing to spend for a full-time live in sexretary
because I can afford it, I'm suggesting $5,000 USD per month, which I'd consider on the high end
but OTOH...
I could get a 9+ english speaker for that price!!
would NOT need a "fluffer"
so to justify her cost, you need to do $15,000 profit per month
you can EASILY do that with gemstones
and just get all the pooty tang you want, and I mean 100%, not even 99.99%
after your first year, you will not have to pay for having a woman's company
cuz you will have "volunteers"
but yur always gonna be dependent on one for bein your dictionary
it sux, when ya meet the most stunning woman you EVER freakin saw in your life
and she doesn't speak 10 words of English, and hardly any Russian
crying I was
nah, never mind, just stay home, collect your salary and watch porn....
I am but a poor wayfaring stranger,
telling you of the promised land
a frontier land
a place for a stranger like you to pioneer in
and seek your fortune
go far east young man to uzbekistan
OMG!! what a freakin insane life a young westerner could have there!!
and bank some serious coin as well
you would get WAY, WAY too much pooty-tang for your own good there, so maybe it's a bad idea, I dunno...
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Latest news from Ukraine is that the Russians are pressing them hard and Ukraine is struggling with low ammunition supply particularly off artillery shells. Ukraine is apparently losing many men and armaments and the situation is difficult. Ukraine will probably hold on but for the moment things aren't going well on the front fir Ukraine. Russia is using its usual just throw it all in there and don't care as numbers can be replaced tactics, they aren't making headway fast but it's proving hard for Ukraine to hold them off apparently. I'm glad I'm not out there as it's no doubt awful bring out there on either side I would imagine.
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Russian media celebrates Trump republican victory
http://youtu.be/NZ8g0f0USX8
it doesn't matter how many Russians are killed/wounded, they're just a daily statistic to Putin that he doesn't care about
the only smart thing for Russians to do is GTF outta Russia
before they or their kids are sent to Ukraine as drone fodder...
average Russians are too poor, and too ignorant to understand this reality
putin has phuqued up Russia's future, to the point that it will neve be fixed
after next year, Russia will be of no help to anyone in a mideast war
meanwhile, Israelis are REALLY pissed at Russia now
that's gonna come back and bite Russian's jhoppa in the future, this I promise you...
because of these factors, I ran will stand down, and only use proxies against USA/Israel and not direct action
neither Russian or American military could fight a substantial war right now
USA nuclear arsenal, is old and obsolete
USA pushed for nuclear disarmament while the rest of the world laughed...
well..
it's time they wiped the smile off their face
ya'll wanna play, then let's play
I suspect Israel will be the first to use nukes or possibly Russia
but after that, their use will become increasingly common
in the future, wars will mainly be fought with WMDS, cuz nobody is gonna be able to afford big "standing armies"
so terrorism and WMDs are how conflicts will be managed
and the effects of climate change are gonna cause a lotta wars
this is why I LOVE Costa Rica, cuz they are the only latin American country without a military
so when "THE WAR" comes, this'll be a fine spot to chill in
PS
Jew hunting is officially a sport once more in Russia!
my gradparents were players in the old days in Odesa
but now all the Jew hunting action is in Dagestan as the video shows
http://twitter.com/i/status/1718728751658287324
my suggestion, hide some Israeli flag stickers on ya
and when Russian mulisms aren't lookin stick it on the back of their coat
and then point your finger at 'em and yell loudly in russian "Zhid!!!" "yevray"
and watch the ensuing hillarity
I take advantage of the fact that I'm such a good lookin "crypto-jew" who easily passes as an aryan
this feature has ALWAYS paid HUGE dividends for me
all the dark stuff I have warned ya'll about the last few years on this board is already starting to come true
the future is unevenly distributed today
but wait until you see what's coming, it's gonna be global pain
the world of abundance we enjoyed, is gonna come to a crashing end
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Tashkent has really transformed from the 90s when I first went
now it's a very comfortable city, for Americans at least, to be in due to the presence of US hotel chains with english speakin staff
not too hard to hire interpreters, drivers, etc through hotel
if ya wanted, it wouldn't be difficult to get a "sleeping dictionary"
besides being your interpreter, she will be your cook, you can go grocery shopping with her, and pay the bills, and throw out the garbage, and that's pretty much it...
oh...
uh, yeah, she's also gonna sleep in the same bed as you
WTF is NOT to like about this arrangment?
a scrumptious girl who snuggles up against you in bed
Apparently a lot of US money has gone into Ukraine since the 2014 ousting of the pro Russian government. Since then apparently Ukraine has adopted the US system in Education and in many other ways also. My guess is that is partly what got the Russians back up, Ukraine being more under the US domain. Corruption to most ordinary Ukrainians apparently is now not such a visible thing that they experience but perhaps still goes on up the top.
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Ukraine wanted to get rid of the obsolete soviet/russian designed educational system and turn it into something more modern and actually useful, this started over 20 years ago, when they copied the European educational system, and NOT American, nobody in their right mind would copy the US's broken educational system or health care (what a joke!)
I served on the board of my daughters school in sevastopol, and this topic of modernization was one of their biggest priorities
However, about half of the students in this "elitny" school were the kids of Russian military officers stationed in Crimea
there was a lot of "pushback" from these folks, cuz anything NOT Russian is "plohoi"
now that Russia is runnin that school, it's basically a military training academy for Jr "Cadets" to shave off some of the time from having to train them in the future, before they're deployed
anything that threatens Russian government's control over it's population will be repulsed (we don't need NO WESTERN EDUCATION! it's better to keep the masses ignorant)
kinda like the way it was a crime to teach slaves how to read in the cornfederacy
corruption is endemic to Russian/Ukrainian society
the way violence is in Gaza
the living conditions are a breeding ground for this
until it becomes an established traditional way of life that no one questions
currently, in Russian occupied Crimea
a beginning teacher's salary is about 220 USD$ per month (I spoke with one on the phone last week)
and inflation since the war, means they can eat meat once per week (true story)
but, of course, Putin will win the next election by a "landslide"
future United Russia's Putin political ads are easy to predict
nothin about progress in the war, or about the economy
it's gonna just be pure "patriotic symbolism" self-sacrifice for the motherland
russians never mentally left serfdom
americans aren't that far behind them now
meanwhile, republicans are making their move to defund ukraine
EVERYTHING is converging now...EVERYTHING....
and of course, you're all BLIND to the signs of what's coming, that are ALL AROUND YOU!!!
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Senator Mike Lee (I assume not ML on here ;D )was being interviewed on the news yesterday, either Sky News or the BBC News one of them. An interesting interview, apparently the US has spent well over $100 billion dollars on the war in Ukraine so far a figure only just recently surpassed by Europe. I was astonished by how much it was all costing. Apparently it's costing more to hold Russia back than what Russia is spending - my guess is partly due to better armaments/ammo and shipping off them, training, economically supporting the Ukrainian State, etc. Russia of course on the other hand is using up its Armaments and will likely run out of money to continue the war at some point in the not too distant future. Mike Lee himself seem more taken with supporting Israel than Ukraine from what I gathered.
Meanwhile the EU is pressing it's more wealthier West European members for a eye watering sum of money, not just for Ukraine but also to service the high debts it has taken on. Unsurprisingly members such as Germany, France and Italy are not so keen:
Via Euronews: Brussels opens Pandora's box with €100 billion budget top-up request
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/11/01/brussels-opens-pandoras-box-with-100-billion-budget-top-up-request
Lucky we got out of the EU when we did as it avoids us being tapped for the money :D
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the capitalist oligarchy impaired or destroyed its own social, environmental and economic conditions.
This is leading to a global economic, environmental and social crisis that will result in MANY, MANY wars
after the "long emergency" occurs, NOBODY will have the resources to support a military anymore (or anything else)
state sponsored terrorism, aka "asymetrical warfare" is the future dawg, augmented by DIY WMDs (of which I am an advocate with DIY Anthrax and Novichok)
2025 will be an inflection point for the future
almost none of the "boomers" alive today, will be able to recognize the future that's coming their way
everyone will prefer to stick their head in the sand and pretend it's all gonna "work out"
the fact that we're using the word "pogrom" once more
is an indication of where the world is heading
my survival strategy?
I plan on selling all the property I own in Texas (ground zero for global warming)
and relocate to a more northern part of the USA, like Idaho
and buy enough land to grow our own food on and be independent
while also having several properties outside the USA, "just in case"
and I have a boatload of precious metals for the time when 100 dollar bills are just layin in the street, cuz they're utterly worthless
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the capitalist oligarchy impaired or destroyed its own social, environmental and economic conditions.
This is leading to a global economic, environmental and social crisis that will result in MANY, MANY wars
after the "long emergency" occurs, NOBODY will have the resources to support a military anymore (or anything else)
state sponsored terrorism, aka "asymetrical warfare" is the future dawg, augmented by DIY WMDs (of which I am an advocate with DIY Anthrax and Novichok)
2025 will be an inflection point for the future
almost none of the "boomers" alive today, will be able to recognize the future that's coming their way
everyone will prefer to stick their head in the sand and pretend it's all gonna "work out"
the fact that we're using the word "pogrom" once more
is an indication of where the world is heading
my survival strategy?
I plan on selling all the property I own in Texas (ground zero for global warming)
and relocate to a more northern part of the USA, like Idaho
and buy enough land to grow our own food on and be independent
while also having several properties outside the USA, "just in case"
and I have a boatload of precious metals for the time when 100 dollar bills are just layin in the street, cuz they're utterly worthless
Thanks for the info Krim, that is interesting stuff, the stuff on Ukraine being nearer to the European education system also maybe even the UK. Good to know I am still vastly outearning a Teacher's salary out there :D even on my meagre UK salary lol.
I'm guessing all the debt from COVID, supporting Ukraine, etc is the elephant in the room that most government's want to put off addressing.
Will I be ok in Wales? I have thick stone walls about half a meter thick and the weather is usually reasonably cool with the exception of last year where it reached about 40 degrees. I stayed indoors where it was surprisingly reasonable temperature, didn't even need the fan I bought for it lol. I would have to get food deliveries in I think though my back garden is only 4 metres square.
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what happened to all the Brits workin in the EU after Brexit?
I used to really envy those guys workin in Marsailles instead of Manchester, OMG, 35 hr work week, 5 weeks of vacation, free health care and education...
Tolouse looked like Silicon Valley
and French criminals (mostly arabic) were too dumb/weak and unarmed to be a threat to someone like me there
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what happened to all the Brits workin in the EU after Brexit?
I used to really envy those guys workin in Marsailles instead of Manchester, OMG, 35 hr work week, 5 weeks of vacation, free health care and education...
Tolouse looked like Silicon Valley
and French criminals (mostly arabic) were too dumb/weak and unarmed to be a threat to someone like me there
If you're talking the tech guys I hear that post Brexit some EU countries were offering Digital Nomad visas with good terms to try and entice UK tech workers (and hence taxes) to their country. I don't know how the exact lay of that land is last I heard the old ex-pat UK retirees in Spain were leaving but were being replaced by remote workers from the UK who would go out there for a few months.
The five weeks holiday a year we all get, the EU originally brought that in (one of the few good things they did) but we retained it after Brexit :D That's because we agreed a free trade agreement with them and so as part of that to have a level playing field we had to agree to be bound by much of the existing EU legislation particularly with regard to trade & employment. Some other EU legislation we can get rid off but it's been seen as getting rid of it overnight could cause more difficulties with loop holes it could open.
The standard UK working week is around 40 hours and we all get free health care (ok we pay taxes for it so not exactly free) and education as well (again taxes & some student loans but not too bad terms).
Its what my poor pal Mobers couldn't understand, that essentially we could and would have our cake and eat it. Because the UK import far more than we export to the EU we are too valuable as a trade partner for the EU to not try and come to a free trade agreement, etc.
So essentially we will end up getting much the same as we had before with the EU but we won't be paying for it plus we can eventually do a trade deal with the US. So a crafty move on our part ;D We should do very well in the end from positioning ourselves well so long as we stay out of the EU.
Already it's paying dividends, we've got AUKUS with the US which could be worth big money helping to build nuclear subs. We've avoided getting hauled up on all this money that Brussels wants as otherwise they would be after us fir that if we were still a member.
So a good move by the UK I think.
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MODERN POSITIONAL WARFARE AND HOW TO WIN IN IT
Valerii Zaluzhnyi
Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Kyiv, Ukraine
http://infographics.economist.com/2023/ExternalContent/ZALUZHNYI_FULL_VERSION.pdf
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Meanwhile, the State Department, quoting Ukraine’s Institute for Religious Freedom, estimated that Russian forces last year “destroyed, damaged, or looted” nearly 500 religious buildings, theological institutions and sacred sites in Ukraine, disproportionately attacking evangelical Christians, who are estimated to account for only 2 percent of the population. Rusyn’s seminary was hit by six rockets during the early days of the invasion.
Religious leaders across Ukraine have no illusions about the risks of continuing to proclaim their faith as the war rages. “Our pastors have been imprisoned in the occupied places, so for us, it’s clear that we will be at least imprisoned [if Russia wins]. Why we don’t run? Because there is a calling,” Rusyn said.
After Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) spoke with the visiting clerics, the senator posted Tuesday on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter: “Met with group of Ukrainian religious leaders from different faiths [with] 1 message. Most are on Putin’s hit list if he is successful in conquering Ukraine. I agreed to keep them in my prayers.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/02/ukrainian-religious-leaders-russian-threat/
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what I see...
republicans are EXTREMELY generous with their thoughts and prayers for victims of mass shootings and Russian and Hamas terror persecution, cuz it's just "words"...
but no financial supoort unless congress cuts IRS funding, cuz in truth, they ACTUALLY don't give a flying phuque about anyone except their bilionaire donors who pay them
they don't REALLY even care about the deficit or health care for tens of millions of Americans
the republican party is there only for the oligarch's money, and not for the welfare of the people or country
all you republican voters are gonna get EXACTLY what you deserve, cuz you created what's gonna end up destroying you
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what I see...
republicans are EXTREMELY generous with their thoughts and prayers for victims of mass shootings and Russian and Hamas terror persecution, cuz it's just "words"...
but no financial supoort unless congress cuts IRS funding, cuz in truth, they ACTUALLY don't give a flying phuque about anyone except their bilionaire donors who pay them
they don't REALLY even care about the deficit or health care for tens of millions of Americans
the republican party is there only for the oligarch's money, and not for the welfare of the people or country
all you republican voters are gonna get EXACTLY what you deserve, cuz you created what's gonna end up destroying you
NO political discourse unless pertaining to the FSU.
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no freedom on this board, means this is my last post here EVER
no replies to this post, cuz I won't even be lookin here anymore
the time to move on from this wasteland is RIGHT NOW!
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Didn't he promise to do this once before ?
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Didn't he promise to do this once before ?
Does it matter?
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MODERN POSITIONAL WARFARE AND HOW TO WIN IN IT
Valerii Zaluzhnyi
Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Kyiv, Ukraine
http://infographics.economist.com/2023/ExternalContent/ZALUZHNYI_FULL_VERSION.pdf
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/05/zelenskiy-denies-ukrainian-generals-claim-war-is-at-stalemate
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/04/continued-support-for-ukraine-will-cost-the-west-less-than-letting-putin-win
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/04/zelenskiy-denies-he-is-under-pressure-to-enter-peace-talks-with-russia
http://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/05/ukrainian-forces-destroy-state-of-the-art-russian-weapon-dubbed-impenetrable-drone-dome/
http://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/05/satellite-images-show-russian-missile-ship-damaged-by-ukrainian-airstrike-in-occupied-crimea/
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Well here is an interesting article I saw this morning, an update on those Ukrainian men who are doing a runner:
http://www.livemint.com/news/thousands-of-ukrainian-men-are-avoiding-military-service-11699526616865.html
Looks like the present situation sees men leave Ukraine before their 18th birthday lol.
Crafty, I don't blame them though.
My guess is that at some point Ukraine may bring in changes to stop all of these get ours. Possibly make those taking second degrees eligible or ban Ukrainian men from enrollment on second degrees, banning males 16 or over from crossing the Ukrainian border, checking on whether disabled people are really being cared for and making crossing the border a criminal offence, etc.
My guess is that in the end they will be forced to do so as otherwise they will be running out of men at the front which if course spells disaster for them. Quite possibly they might already be finding it difficult to get men up for the front as a lot of the initial enthusiasm has likely dissipated now.
For those here married to Ukrainian wives I would avoid dual citizenship if I were you or if you go to Ukraine you could get called up too ;D
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In other news it looks like the EU is pushing on with enlarging it's Empire to include Ukraine, etc:
Via Euronews: State of the Union: European Commission says Ukraine should start EU membership talks
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/11/10/state-of-the-union-european-commission-says-ukraine-should-start-eu-membership-talks
I don't think a lot of Ukrainians have caught on to what this actually entails particularly those at the front. As they do the fighting their way of life is likely to be undermined and they are likely to get knifed in the back by the politicians in Ukraine & the EU. As part of being in the EU means accepting all their legislation that also means accepting their 'equal pay legislation' too!
Yep that's right the moment they join the guys fighting at the front or who have fought at the front are going to have to accept less money while the women will get paid more money so that they are both earning the same for doing the same (or similar) type of work. Now that naturally is going to cause havoc and a lot of relationships that were working won't no longer and a lot of youngsters won't be getting together as the women will no longer rate the guys who are now earning the same as them. That as we have seen in the west will cause the population to plummet even further than it currently is in Ukraine and people living miserable lonely lives with just work to go too. Possibly immigrants may be brought in and Ukraine not be so Ukrainian any more.
Whether Ukrainians will get a say in joining I doubt as usually that decision is undemocratically made for them.
Once in the EU that is not all though, Ukraine will have to adopt the Euro which means it can no longer devalue its loans through devaluing it's currency. That as we have seen in Greece is not a good thing, particularly as Ukraine will have a lot of debt. The EU too is amassing huge debt from COVID, supporting Ukraine in its war and the usual fancy projects, etc.
Germany, France & Italy are being called upon to bankroll all of this and they are none to happy about it, they have their own debts and problems. The issue going forward is that with more new members wanting handouts along with the existing ones like Poland, etc will the EUve in a position to hand them out much in the way of money anymore?
I can see a lot of problems on the horizon for the EU if this all goes ahead and I think it could well all end in a big :trainwreck:
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As part of being in the EU means accepting all their legislation that also means accepting their 'equal pay legislation' too!
Yep that's right the moment they join the guys fighting at the front or who have fought at the front are going to have to accept less money while the women will get paid more money so that they are both earning the same for doing the same (or similar) type of work. Now that naturally is going to cause havoc and a lot of relationships that were working won't no longer and a lot of youngsters won't be getting together as the women will no longer rate the guys who are now earning the same as them.
In the USSR, men and women earned the same pay for the same work. Traditionally "male" professions, such as trades, earned more than bookkeepers, but a female plumber earned the same salary as a male plumber. That concept carried on in Ukraine. So you are absolutely wrong on this. Perhaps if you expanded your way of thinking, you would see that being paid equally is a positive, not a negative.
That as we have seen in the west will cause the population to plummet even further than it currently is in Ukraine and people living miserable lonely lives with just work to go too. Possibly immigrants may be brought in and Ukraine not be so Ukrainian any more.
The population plummeted in Soviet times, because it was too expensive to raise children. That's the case now as well. People with ties to villages tend to have more children, as they can feed them.
Whether Ukrainians will get a say in joining I doubt as usually that decision is undemocratically made for them.
Ukrainians overwhelmingly wish to join the EU.
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In the USSR, men and women earned the same pay for the same work. Traditionally "male" professions, such as trades, earned more than bookkeepers, but a female plumber earned the same salary as a male plumber. That concept carried on in Ukraine. So you are absolutely wrong on this. Perhaps if you expanded your way of thinking, you would see that being paid equally is a positive, not a negative.
That is EXACTLY as it should be. Rachel Madcow (as do most feministas) complained that
men made more than women. But used the numbers of men's wages compared to women's
wages without taking into account that more women are office workers, teachers and bank
tellers than engineers, heavy equipment operators and welders or that more women worked
part time or took years off their careers to be at home with their children. [/quote]
Ukrainians overwhelmingly wish to join the EU.
Citizens of all the Ex-Soviet Union want to. Nobody wants to be Belarus when they could be
Poland or Lithuania.
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In the USSR, men and women earned the same pay for the same work. Traditionally "male" professions, such as trades, earned more than bookkeepers, but a female plumber earned the same salary as a male plumber. That concept carried on in Ukraine. So you are absolutely wrong on this. Perhaps if you expanded your way of thinking, you would see that being paid equally is a positive, not a negative.
The population plummeted in Soviet times, because it was too expensive to raise children. That's the case now as well. People with ties to villages tend to have more children, as they can feed them.
Ukrainians overwhelmingly wish to join the EU.
Incorrect Counsel! Population increased dramatically during the Soviet Union due to free Social Housing and State support in which to have children, it's only leveled off after the USSR when that support became not as strong due to capitalism rather than socialism, as the population graph on Wikipedia demonstrates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union
Yes in polls taken the majority of Ukrainians want to join the EU BUT that is not an official mandate and so a referendum on the issue should be taken. Furthermore I don't think that most Ukrainians really at all know what they are signing up too in joining the EU. I am pretty sure they have a concept of being all good, their saviour without actually realising what the EU actually entails and how it is going to be different from what they imagined.
Bearing in mind aside from all the legislation etc that they will have to be beholden too they are entering into a EU at which point it's Credit Cards are maxed out and it's net contributors are done one and the remaining ones are going to get squeezed on their finances also. Basically it's going to be entering an EU that is busted while being told what to do by the EU. My feeling is that any current love for the EU will die pretty quickly.
I am pretty definite that most men earn more than most women in Ukraine ;)
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I meant in Ukraine. From 1965 on, birth rates in Ukraine were below replacement levels (which are 2.1 live births).
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Hungary and Poland are both in the EU. Neither uses the Euro (Forint and Zloty).
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I meant in Ukraine. From 1965 on, birth rates in Ukraine were below replacement levels (which are 2.1 live births).
I think you're playing with statistics my dear Boe ;)
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Hungary and Poland are both in the EU. Neither uses the Euro (Forint and Zloty).
You're right Steven they don't use the Euro but they joined the EU before all new members had to use the Euro. So Ukraine will have to use the Euro as the rules currently stand as well after the change of rule date. Adopting the Euro could cause further problems for Ukraine's economy as nearby Poland benefits from a cheaper currency Ukraine will be adopting both a more expensive currency than it presently has and more expensive than the Polish currency, the Polish currency at present being more expensive than the current Ukrainian currency.
My guess is the Ukrainian currency is cheap for a good reason (even before the war it was cheap but now obviously more so) so it's likely to kill exports as it will make them very expensive, do god knows what to labour costs, and who knows what to anything else, government debt costs soaring with income declining perhaps? etc
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I think you're playing with statistics my dear Boe ;)
Nope. Have a look. Births started dropping in the mid 1960s in Ukraine. They did in the Slavic part of Russia as well. Russia had higher birth rates Ami g its Muslim region.
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The countries that were previously in the Warsaw Pact which subsequently joined the European Union have greatly benefited economically. In 1995 Poland had more or less the same GDP per capita as Russia; in 2021 it was 50% higher.
More countries joining creates a larger internal single market. The world is moving towards large trading blocks - America with Mexico and Canada the dominant one and China fast catching up. The United Kingdom in its infinite wisdom decided its future was trading with Australia and New Zealand rather than countries a few hours lorry drive away...
The European Union has the resources to absorb Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine. It's not economics, it's politics that would prevent membership, with Putin's useful idiots in Hungary and the Slovak republic providing noises off.
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The countries that were previously in the Warsaw Pact which subsequently joined the European Union have greatly benefited economically. In 1995 Poland had more or less the same GDP per capita as Russia; in 2021 it was 50% higher.
More countries joining creates a larger internal single market. The world is moving towards large trading blocks - America with Mexico and Canada the dominant one and China fast catching up. The United Kingdom in its infinite wisdom decided its future was trading with Australia and New Zealand rather than countries a few hours lorry drive away...
The European Union has the resources to absorb Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine. It's not economics, it's politics that would prevent membership, with Putin's useful idiots in Hungary and the Slovak republic providing noises off.
Indeed Poland did well because the EU were taking money off us along with Germany, France and Italy and giving it to Poland. Poland was becoming stronger as a result and us weaker. It's no wonder that we went from being able to call an Ambulance and it be with us between 15-30 minutes before Poland & other Eastern bloc nations joined the EU to waiting all day or all night for one not long after they joined. We were being drained of our finances for supporting such and for growing our infrastructure too. The EU is essentially one massive Ponzi scheme it takes money of western countries renames it EU money, gives us back a small amount of it as EU money that was our money anyway then with the rest takes some for Brussels unelected bureaucrats and give themselves big salaries and pensions then sends the rest to East European countries. They use the money to bait poorer East European in to expand their Evil Empire. The EU itself is dangerous like Russia, the bigger they get the more dangerous they become. We just got out as we import from the EU far more than we export so we're in a strong position. Even then we faced bullying from the EU of threats to cut us off from the single market through no Brexit deal which we helped to create. The more the EU expands the bigger clout that they gain to dictate and take power off their members and those around them. The Brussels bureaucracy enjoys being on top and is power hungry. Keeping the EU from its project of dragging in all European nations is key to avoiding loss of all sovereignty and being totally dominated by what they wish to dictate how ever so far that may end up going.
For us in the UK the US trading bloc as you have mentioned Steven provides the key to which to become a major power and economy once again. Instead of just trading with the EU we now have the opportunity to strike a free trade deal with the US also! That would be huge, we would be at the crossroads of two major trading blocks and cumulatively growing our economy off both. We would be seen by industries as the place to be to do business in either trading bloc. The EU saw that in negotiations and did not like it but had little choice due to our import/export position. A US deal will take time, we already have AUKUS that I don't think we would have gotten if we were still in the EU due to the US being skeptical over security concerns with the EU. Biden I think is not so interested in a trade deal with us due to his Irish roots so we'll see who gets in next year.
The UK has already made a good trade deal with Ukraine. I believe that more trade should be done with Ukraine and other non-EU European countries and to come to a consensus about the benefits of being free from the clutches if the EU. I think we could do great trade with these countries and form an informal trading group of countries for those nations that don't wish to be under the control of the EU.
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Incidentally Ukraine has a free trade deal with the EU much akin to the UK's free trade deal with the EU post Brexit. So the Single Market will give them little extra but Ukraine will lose a lot of sovereignty. Ukraine baited in of course by the payments they will receive from the EU. To some extent I understand why Ukraine are having to go that path at present to gain the financial and military support they need, but I don't think they are having the EU on and are pursuing the path to EU membership too doggedly. They would be better not going along with it quite so briskly and then pulling back before it happens.
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Brexit is a slow puncture on the UK economy and the reduction in our GDP because of it is far greater than the small net contribution we used to make to be members. UK companies have much more red tape now. The UK economy also benefited from motivated and talented young East Europeans who came to work in our country. All I worked with were better than a lot of the lazy disinterested Brits we now have to employ.
The EU has nothing to do with the state of the NHS. The problem there is the various private finance initiatives which have saddled trusts with 30 year debts. A mortgage with a credit card.
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Brexit is a slow puncture on the UK economy and the reduction in our GDP because of it is far greater than the small net contribution we used to make to be members. UK companies have much more red tape now. The UK economy also benefited from motivated and talented young East Europeans who came to work in our country. All I worked with were better than a lot of the lazy disinterested Brits we now have to employ.
The EU has nothing to do with the state of the NHS. The problem there is the various private finance initiatives which have saddled trusts with 30 year debts. A mortgage with a credit card.
I agree it was under Tony Blair's government that PFI (and variations off) was used most heavily for the NHS and also Schools which was basically racking up a huge debts on the credit card of the UK government. In addition though the UK has been squeezed giving big contributions to the EU, far more than people think, people think it is a small amount but in reality it is a lot of money each year we were giving. In the last year as a member of the EU 2019-2020 we gave:
"The UK's estimated gross contribution (after the rebate) was £17.0bn in 2020. The UK's public sector received an estimated £4.5bn of funding from the EU in 2020. The UK's net contribution, therefore, was £12.6bn."
14 Jun 2022
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk › ...PDF
The UK's contribution to the EU Budget - UK Parliament
There is a small increase in red tape such as a bit of form filling at ports but I think this will diminish in time as technology improves and the EU and companies see it in their interests to push for it to be minimised. I personally think the small negatives we have pale in comparison to the gains and more importantly the potential gains out there for the UK. Much of the benefits we have kept such as in some of the Employment legislation (i.e 25 days holiday a year, job protections) but we now aren't paying the EU billions of pounds a year like we used to AND can make free trade deals with other nations and tailor those to our needs. EU members can't do that and I think increasingly as time wears on we will see the UK economy benefiting and pulling ahead of Germany as the largest economy in Europe, already there are positive figures reflecting that.
I think for the EU where it went all wrong was taking money from some countries and giving it to others that they termed it EU money in doing so made it all the more offensive like they were treating us like mugs. If they had left it as, 'ok you want to join, you get access to the Single Market and that's about it' I think that would have been better. You know that those countries then want to join because they want to and not because of the money being handed out. After all we don't owe Eastern Europe anything in terms of post Soviet reconstruction that is down to them, or should have been.
Currency is another issue and in fairness all countries, Poland, Hungary and the UK, etc should have had to join the Euro or hold a referendum on leaving so as to create a level playing field. I am quite familiar with the pound so I would have preferred to vote to leave but I understand others don't mind so much.
Anyway that's water under the bridge now, if we were to ever rejoin the EU (I hope not but fear the worst the writing may be on the wall) then we would have to adopt the Euro. Not as bad for us as for poorer nations like Ukraine but still a little inflexible with debts if you need it.
As far as motivated workers are concerned, workers are motivated if there is something to motivate them (carrot and/or stick). The Polish workers could come and work here get their wages in GBP and covert back to the Zlotys back home and do very well, like we do when we go to Ukraine. So a Polish worker could do a basic minimum wage job here and it's earnings in Poland could be the equivalent of a Polish stockbroker or similar. So yes in their position I would feel motivated. Here we give some UK citizens free social housing and benefits on top, so are they going to be motivated to work? Tell them the free housing is from now on only going to be partially free and watch the keenness to work rise! To some extent we have left some people for too long in their social housing situation and their attitudes become lazy with it. It would be better to ease of in the benefits and just them give them a job to start them off. In Ukraine the state can only pay so much and the difference in attitude there for most is quite apparent, a lot more work motivated.
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The UK estimates Russia has lost about 300,000 soldiers either killed or casualties since the war began. That's huge and more men than they started with but is probably correct hence them needing ongoing recruitment:
http://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-estimates-over-300000-russian-military-casualties/
My guess is that Ukraine has probably lost at least 200,000 soldiers killed or casualties by comparison by now though quite possibly more. Ukraine has so far kept quiet on their losses but they of course must know how many.
The EU not quite up to production targets for ammunition to Ukraine:
Via Euronews: EU countries failing to meet ammunition production demands for Ukraine
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/11/14/eu-countries-failing-to-meet-ammunition-production-demands-for-ukraine
Ukraine using a shocking 45,000 artillery shells a week, guess shows how active this war is on an ongoing basis.
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http://youtu.be/7xh6UnyyWx8
http://youtu.be/atb7_zrVTqM
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Just posting a update on the situation on the ground out in Ukraine. This article states the current state of play out there, it's pretty much stalemate and hard going as we press on into winter with neither side looking like they will achieve any significant gain over the winter months:
http://www.voanews.com/a/british-defense-ministry-cites-intense-ground-combat-in-ukraine-/7360471.html
If anyone has any other news on such please post up.
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Looks like the takeover of Europe is underway!
Not so likely Russia but by the EU:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1837567/eu-superstate-germany-guy-verhofstadt
The plan is to centralise power in the EU from EU nation states thereby reducing them to vassalage to the EU!
Poland's Law & Justice party see the plot and they are not happy. A real danger now that the Nations of Europe that are in the EU will have their power to self rule & sovereignty taken away from them. Does Ukraine know what it is heading into? If not taken over by Russia then the EU seeks to take control of their country along with the rest of them!
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Looks like Holland are making their bolt for the door while they still can, they're going wild for Wilders over there.
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http://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/24/texty-russia-made-over-5-bn-on-stolen-harvest-in-occupied-ukraine/
http://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/23/the-russian-trace-in-the-polish-trucker-border-blockade/
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Krimster, ML, all,
I need help to exchange usd or sgd currency for rubles. I'm unable to physically go to Russia at the moment for legal reasons. Practically, I will require someone trustworthy who has a ruble bank account in Russia. I send you usd to your usd bank account, then my girl receives ruble from your ruble bank account. The amount wouldn't be much, maybe ~70,000 rub for this operation.
My girl has been struggling financially in Russia and I need to send her some money to help her cover at least some expenditures the next couple of months. This is exacerbated by the fact that both her mom and pop have seen their incomes dry up spectacularly, particularly mom, the breadwinner who has been forced by her employer to take holidays as her employer's factory runs out of parts (literally furlough).
It's another long story why I haven't brought her out of Russia after all this time. In case anyone's wondering, yes it's the same girl all these years and yes I don't normally send her money. Fully appreciate anyone who can viably lend a hand.
Hey Kyn, how did it go with your girl sending the money? Did you ever get it together in the end or is her Mother still running her life?
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Well for the moment I will post the odd update just in case there is any interest:
Latest bring that Zelensky has so far failed in his bid to convince Congress (mainly Republicans as I understand it) to send further aid & military assistance to Ukraine:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/12/12/zelensky-biden-meeting-washington-dc/
From the article it looks like an attempt by Republicans to get something done on immigration in return. My guess is that they aren't necessarily for the most part against further aid to Ukraine but are using it as a ploy to try and get what they want done on illegal immigration.
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The other news potentially on the horizon or not is, 'Whether Ukraine will hold Presidential Elections next year in 2024?'
Apparently it would be around March/April time like Russia's but as this article states under Martial Law Presidential Elections are prohibited:
http://visitukraine.today/blog/2863/will-there-be-presidential-elections-in-ukraine-in-2024-and-who-can-become-a-candidate
That said the West is likely to feel that Ukraine should be compelled to have Presidential Elections possibly with support on the line if it does not. As otherwise it smacks of a an undemocratic system of government with some possibly drawing comparisons to Putin and be asking, 'What is the difference?'
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Republicans in both House and Senate will pass aid to Ukraine . . . I think.
They see finally that they have great leverage to make significant changes in immigration policy since Biden desperately (correctly so) wants aid for Ukraine and Israel.
Republicans want:
1) new asylum limits
2) subjecting more undocumented immigrants to a fast-track deportation process
3) a national expulsion authority — similar to a Covid-era restriction that permitted border authorities to swiftly turn away migrants at the US-Mexico border
4) reduction of the president’s parole authority, which allows migrants to temporarily live in the US on a case-by-case basis
5) subjecting anyone released in the US to electronic monitoring, including children
6) a “safe third” country provision that would bar asylum seekers who passed through other countries
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Well both finance packages from the US and the EU now currently held up leaving Ukraine wondering if they will ever get anything much more from either.
Current thinking in Ukraine now focuses on whether to conscript more soldiers:
http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-12-20/ukrainian-army-proposal-to-call-up-more-civilians-gets-mixed-reaction-in-kyiv
It doesn't look likely that many people will volunteer these days like in the first year if war. The stalemate and bloody situation now is in stark contrast to the victories won in the first year if the war and there seems little likelihood to share in the glory if no victories just pointless random loss of life by artillery etc.
My guess is that this announcement that they are considering a new draft could well be a way of floating the notion out there to prepare people in advance for it, so it doesn't come as a big of a surprise when it finally gets confirmed and face as big a backlash and outcry as a result.
Probably many people that may do a runner when this shit hits the fan, my favourite topic and past time hobby :D
Not sure where CB is these days, such an avid supporter of Ukraine when it was doing so well in the early stages of the war :-\
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This year, Ukraine officially celebrates it's first Christmas on the 25th December like the rest of us in the West and no longer on the 7th January.
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainians-prepare-first-wartime-christmas-new-calendar-2023-12-20/
So I assume a end to two Christmas's for many with Ukrainian partner's. Whether that is considered a good or bad thing is another matter of course.
So continuing the process of eliminating Russian culture from Ukraine. For me Christmas on the 7th January always seemed a bit weird so I'm happy enough with one Christmas and on the usual day I've grown up with in the 25th. Not sure I could take two Christmas's a year for too long.
I personally see eliminating Russian culture as a good thing for Ukraine and for foreigners as myself as it makes it easier to see Ukraine as having it's own culture and less likely to see it as one and the same, or nearly the same.
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Recent article highlighting another area that the Ukrainian Government is looking at to get new recruits/conscripts to the front:
http://www.kyivpost.com/post/25783#:~:text=He%20revealed%20that%20discussions%20are,report%20to%20AFU%20conscription%20points.
Not sure what sanctions they are thinking off. I'm guessing it wouldn't work very well as it's the reason they have buggered off in the first place. I doubt many if any will return as a result but probably more to satisfy those at home unhappy over others being a bit quick witted and getting out abroad.
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Looks like the UK's Storm Shadow Cruise Missiles are still working wonders for Ukraine. Good one country is still supporting Ukraine ;D
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Gives a possible idea of the state of the UK's tank fleet:
http://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/11/26/uk-stores-unused-900-cold-war-chieftain-and-180-challenger-2-tanks/
The Challenger 2 was fine in the day of the Iraq war, etc but that was a fair old while back now. I just wonder if part of the reason we only gave Ukraine 14 Challenger 2's is because we only had that many operationally running! It can take a lot of time, effort and most of all money to keep a tank fleet operational. What are the chances that it's also seen as an easy area to save money on in peacetime.
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A large Russian military transport plane has crashed in the border region of Belgorod, according to Russia’s defence ministry, killing all 74 people on board.
The ministry said the Ilyushin Il-76 aircraft was carrying 65 Ukrainian PoWs who were to be swapped. The Guardian could not immediately verify Russian claims of who was onboard and the cause of the crash was not yet known.
The ministry added that onboard the Ilyushin Il-76 were also six crew and three Russian servicemen.
Ukraine has not directly commented on the incident. Mykhailo Podolyak, a Ukrainian presidential adviser, told Reuters: “Comments will come a little later. Time is needed to clarify all the data.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/24/russian-plane-carrying-ukrainian-pows-has-crashed-moscow-says
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http://youtu.be/utAfnUkXEhk
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Stand with Ukraine world rallies February 24.
Together with Ukrayinska Pravda, a leading Ukrainian media outlet, the Ukrainian World Congress has created an interactive StandWithUkraine world map that identifies countries, cities, and locations where peaceful rallies will take place on February 24, 2024.
http://standwithukraineworld.ukrainianworldcongress.org/
http://klych.org/believe-in-ukraine#partners-1
Scroll down page for US sites.
http://standwithukraine.ukrainianworldcongress.org/
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Watch on youtube
http://youtu.be/WyYn5meNmBY
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All the time Russia is advancing, all the time Russia is losing. They are being played by the West into thinking they are gaining victories, but they are doing so at a heavy cost. Once Russia runs low on Armaments and has not enough money to buy enough more they will have a problem on their hands.
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All the time Russia is advancing, all the time Russia is losing. They are being played by the West into thinking they are gaining victories, but they are doing so at a heavy cost. Once Russia runs low on Armaments and has not enough money to buy enough more they will have a problem on their hands.
Russia is not going to run low on armaments as they are producing a lot of their own now. Its economy is in full war mode production as I understand it . . . while the west is not replenishing its armament stock.
I did hear one commentator mention briefly today that Russia is spending down its currency reserves and gold on this war production and purchases from Iran, China and North Korea. So that's supposed to have an impact at some point down the road.
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Europe Has More to Fear Than Trump
Decades of complacency have left the Continent vulnerable and dependent on American protection.
Europeans fear Donald Trump’s return to the White House, and who can blame them after he said he’d “encourage” the Russians to “do whatever the hell they want” to allies who don’t pay enough for their defense? Yet that comment should wake up those in Europe who think that U.S. reservoirs of resources and will are infinite. Mr. Trump reflects a growing American frustration with many allies that refuse to face the harsh international reality: that rivals are arming rapidly, and the only guarantee of security remains a large, and perhaps unsustainable, U.S. military expenditure.
Europe has enjoyed a decadeslong vacation from the obligation of any polity: security. The benign international conditions of the 1990s and early 2000s seemed to be a prelude to a peaceful global community. Now it’s clear that progress toward global harmony isn’t happening, and nourishing such illusions is dangerous.
Some, especially on Europe’s eastern front line, have fully awakened to the reality of competition and war. But others, such as Germany and Italy, spend well below 2% of gross domestic product on defense—with the bulk of that money going toward personnel rather than weapons. If European politicians think that Russia is a serious threat, they should push for massive spending on defense and a mobilization of their societies including some form of conscription, regardless of what a U.S. presidential candidate says. Those in Europe who fret that the Continent is in danger but then ask the U.S. to protect it at high cost are covering up their unwillingness to make hard choices.
The solution isn’t the European Union. Much of the rhetoric in Europe pre-emptively condemning a future Trump presidency is a useful cover for those in love with the idea of European strategic autonomy. If Mr. Trump will abandon Europe, then the only salvation, they think, is a reinvigorated EU with not only a common coin and market but also a common army, centralized weapons procurement, shared defense industry and an EU-level military command.
There is a reason this hasn’t happened. Europe’s nations don’t want it. Portugal doesn’t care about Poland’s border. Estonia isn’t preoccupied with Sicily. Berlin would rather do business with Moscow than fight for Suwałki, Poland. Paris or Rome won’t place their aspirations of grandeur or their business interests in the hands of a Central European leader, even one domesticated by EU ambitions. There is no feasible alternative for European states other than to shore up their own national forces.
Europe should fear its enemies. An aggressive Russia pushing westward won’t stop even after Vladimir Putin is out of power. Over the past 10 years, Russia has increased its defense spending by 300%, while EU countries have increased theirs by only 20%. The quality of Western weapons may be better, but the war in Ukraine shows that quantity also matters. Russia is producing 20 to 30 new tanks a month, while Germany will get 18 new Leopard tanks in 2025. The U.K. has around 40 tanks that are ready to be deployed.
Add to this grim picture the instability of Europe’s southern frontier, likely to become worse as demographic pressures in Africa and Asia exacerbate the northward migration flow. This is a problem that won’t be solved by international development organizations. It requires an investment in security, from maritime interdiction to stabilization of North Africa, all of which involve men, ships, planes and ammunition.
Finally, Europe should be afraid of a weak U.S. president. Joe Biden has 11 months left in his administration. If we take the past three years as an indication of what he may do, Europe faces serious risks. So far the Biden administration has abandoned Afghanistan to the Taliban, has willfully dragged on the war in Ukraine by spoon-feeding Kyiv with enough arms not to be overwhelmed by Russia but not enough to defeat it, and has entered into a war with Iran and its proxies without a clear vision of victory.
All this bodes ill for Europe. Mr. Biden wants to avoid a presidential election in the shadow of wars. He has a strong interest to strike a deal with Russia, regardless of what this may mean for Ukraine. The inability of Congress to agree to fund the next batch of weapons for Ukraine—caused in part by the Democrats’ insistence on ignoring the crises on the U.S. southern border—is helpful for Mr. Biden as it reduces American exposure to the war and prepares the conditions for freezing the conflict. Ukraine—and, with it, European security—is at risk of being sacrificed well before Inauguration Day 2025.
Europeans should be afraid. But the primary object of their fear is more immediate. They should arm themselves regardless of what a U.S. president, or a presidential candidate, says.
Mr. Grygiel is a professor at the Catholic University of America, a senior advisor at the Marathon Initiative and a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution.
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Russia is not going to run low on armaments as they are producing a lot of their own now. Its economy is in full war mode production as I understand it . . . while the west is not replenishing its armament stock.
I did hear one commentator mention briefly today that Russia is spending down its currency reserves and gold on this war production and purchases from Iran, China and North Korea. So that's supposed to have an impact at some point down the road.
True but those armaments still need to be paid for, the resources to buy the raw materials in still cost, etc. As you state Russia is running down it's currency reserves and gold basically to fund the war and procure these armaments. Once these currency and gold reserves run out and Russia can't take on any more debt then it will have a problem getting more armaments. Statistic I saw the other day was that western economies collectively outmatch Russia's economy by 28 times I think it was. What's the betting they are sitting back carefully drip feeding Ukraine armaments and finance knowing that Russia will eventually exhaust it's economy and armaments. The UK in WWII nearly exhausted it's economy fighting Nazi Germany along with the allies. It was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy near the end and in the few years thereafter. Our Putler can't keep up the war forever more, Russia's economy will become exhausted at some point, WWI shows us that Russia is beatable and can only stay in the fight so long before it all starts to fall apart.
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somebody "hold my beer"
Trump will steal every cent from the RNC to pay off his legal bills, leaving nothing but a bare cupboard for republican congressional races that they all lose as a result!!!!!
the whole party will FAIL because of this!!!
OH MY!!!!!
this is Orange Jesus's America!!!
and in Orange Jesus America, Orange Jesus crucifies you!!!!
middle fingers to other Republicans (RINOs ahahahaha)
which Dear gentle RWD readers
in january leaves us with a democratic president, house and senate!!!! who then increase the size of the supreme court by adding liberal judges
Democrats then pass legislation turning illegals into legals, resulting in a huge Democratic voter base
Biden diverts Russian money combined with US aid to Ukraine including no limits on weapon range, Russia is bleeding to death men and equipment on the battlefield, day after day after day
SO, after defeating Trump, sleepy Joe, devastates Phutin without a single American casualty
what a STUD Biden is!!!!
Israel doesn't give a matso ball what US public opinion is...only the US cares
HAMAS is already dead!!!
The Global Jihad ain't comin like they planned on....cuz they see the ticket price to this fight is WAY higher than what they thought they were gonna pay
more than half the buildings in gaza destroyed/damaged and 30,000 dead and no food
this sticker shock silenced the West Bank and neighboring arab states into not joining the party like they were supposed to... oh my...
certainly ain't gonna escalate to the point of effecting the oil markets like Oct 7 was supposed to do
Putin will not get his money to Hamas back that he paid right before the attack transferred in bitcoin through Garantex
(PS you Russians can't do ANYTHING with bitcoin without me and the Feds knowing about it!! cuz we use the same tools, phuqueing pridorki)
next year, is REALLY, REALLY gonna suck being a Russian, Borgoi Moy!!
I mean the age limit for entry to the Russian Army was ALREADY raised to 70!!!! (there must be 20-30 70 yr olds at most in all of Russia, based on what i've seen!)
with Combat Walkers and Canes and dentures sharpened to points!!!
shuffle to VICTORY!!!
The war slowly winds down as the last elderly Russian and Ukrainian men slowly aprroach each other swords in hand
Russia has been ruled by a group of Putin body doubles for over 8 years now, the actual Putin is dead
the average Putin body double only works for a few years and is then replaced by another....
not sure how much longer they can keep this up....
Russia's tenuous existence is predicated on Trump winning in Nov steering the US out of the war....
but...
if Biden and the democrats win
then the excrement has hit the reciprocating cooling device
and Putin will have to resort to some form of "EXTREME MEASURES" which will be implemented next year, but are being planned on NOW!!
so my expectation, is no big changes this year, but if democrats win
Putin's Options
1. WMD options, nuclear, Novichok A-236 (my favorite Novichok, what's yours?)
2. mass mobilization and production, i.e. "Total War" like WWII
Weird thought: Nobody knows what Novichok actually smells like except for Navalny, cuz they only other ones who've smelled it - are dead!! and now he's dead!!!
who came up with the idea pf putting Novichok in undewear????
A Russian of course - undoubtedly from KAMERA, tryin to show off their SKILLZ
Смерть Шпионам!!!!
Starry, starry Novichok
look up in the summer sky
the Iskander tracks way up high
russian military prefers binary novichoks
cuz they can be used in dumb munitions by untrained/unmotivated careless soldiery with less danger of them killing themselves
Novichok window of opportunity is primarily May-Sept
Novichok Artillery, Rockets, Cruise missiles
need to deploy min 100 tons per week of Novichok in mass and small atatacks 1600 tons for the whole Novichok season - to de-nazify 16,000 sq kilometers
imagine a dead city - people, dogs, birds, insects, any living thing with a nervous system, they just all dropped dead at the same time
Ukraine has ZERO to counter-attack with and almost no chemical protection
if NATO launches a conventional attack on Russian forces as punishment
then Russia soaks a major Ukrainian city in Novichok killing THOUSANDS, and tells NATO, do it again, go ahead, I DARE YOU!!!
then NATO countries put sanctions on russian cheese instead
this is where things are gonna head next year in Ukraine
I'd get as much Russin cheese now as you can and stockpile it!!
have you EVER had American cheese? quelle horrour!!
whatcha want is some of them powdermilk biscuits with melted russian cheese on top
served to you by a prettty smiling village girl...
with some Krimskaya Koffee Mountain Grown in Costa Rica from a Hybrid cross species Coffea Arabica-Erythoxylon coca hybrid with a broad alkaloid profile
developed by a Russian botanist.....
this is $100 pound coffee my friends, sells out in 24 hours
the only places I can legally sell mate de coffee is in central and south america where mate de coca is sold...
I could easily get a higher price here in boutique coffee shops, and yes you WILL test positive for cocaine if you drink this coffee!!! each cup has 50 mg coca alkaloids!!
this hybrid was developed from quality Jamaican Arabica beans and Bolivian high mountain Erythoxylon selected for potency
using modern plant cellular fusion for cross species pollination
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Latest from Putler is more threats to nuke the West:
http://www.gbnews.com/news/world/vladimir-putin-russia-nato-nuclear-war
I personally wonder if the West is now complacent in it's Nuclear threat planning. Not just Governments but also the people.
In Europe in particular I do not yet see any hurry to dig and build Nuclear Bunkers, not from individuals or from Governments. In the UK in particular there is little to no operational bunkers in any fit state. The number of Government/Public bunkers are few and far between and it's questionable if the Public would have access if indeed they could get to them in time. Private individuals I get the impression that there are extremely few private bunkers in the UK. This I think all contrasts greatly with the bunker building in the Cold War era where in some parts it was almost a fashionable trend.
I think most people are just thinking it won't happen so not worth the bother, don't care if they get obliterated or are just unaware!
Well a few in the UK survived Novichok from the Salisbury incident so don't know if they could tell of the smell. Pretty dangerous stuff though.
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in Russia, war hybridizes you!
bullying, intimidating threats, disinformation are all VERY cost-effective methods of non-symetrical hybrid warfare that Russia excels in, and of course you let the Western Media amplify the threats for you!!! Klassne!!
deception is a Russian virtue and not a vice like the west
http://publicintelligence.net/awg-russian-new-warfare-handbook/
Putin needs to save money now, he lost a billion USD worth of aircraft in Febuary
the war cut Russia's financial reserves in half, necessitating a just announced tax increase
most provincial oblasts have had their budgets cut by 30%, reducing health,education,housing infrastructure expenditures, to fund the war, cities have handed over half their municipal buses for ammo delivery, civilian hospitals taken over for overflowing military wounded
there is no sacrifice too great for the Russian people to make on Putin's behalf in his effort to Make Russia Great Again (MRGA!)
you want a half million of our sons dead or wounded? here ya go!
ya want us to wear rags and eat garbage? count us in!!
Trump and Putin are nothin but "wrecking balls"
and the best way to defeat them, is to direct their energy in such a way, that they end up WRECKIN THEIR OWN POWER
Trump has ALREADY DESTROYED his business empire through his own actions
and like Putin, Trump's ONLY business is FRAUD
and now Trump needs to suck as much money as he can from the republican party
which will lead to it's collapse
while Putin does the same to Russia
so let Ukraine grind down Russia until there's nothin left but the same empty void that there's gonna be in Trump Towers
and let Trump scam/grift the republican party to make it as bankrupt as he is
until Putin's Russia and the MAGA party shrinks to a small enuff size that Biden can drown them BOTH TOGETHER in the same dirty bathtub (he's old, but DEADLY...just watch this Nov...)
and if things turn out right, this can ALL happen by next year! SLOVO!
and it will be GLORIOUS!!!!
the FSB/GRU are staffed by pridorki
a proferssional woulda honey potted Hunter Biden into ACTUALLY taking $$$ instead of Simonov's lame frame-up, which didn't hold up under scrutiny, and the FBI figured it all out and put Siminov's ass in jail
it would've been trivial to do the smart thing, but Russians did the dumb thing...
if they had done the smart thing, then they could've leveraged that into hooking Hunter Biden's Dad, they coulda easily done that as well
but now...
they realize they phuqued up that little "character assassination".... it failed...
Siminov wasn't the little Oswald that the Russians hoped for
comparing Oswald to Siminov, it woulda been like if Oswald forgot to load his rifle!!
it's so hard to get good help these days!!
meanwhile, MAGA dumb phuques, enjoy that last bit of Jonestown Kool-Aid this November
and then go lay down somewhere with a slip of paper with your ID and funerary preferences....
erstwhile...
El Nino is a comin
I predict that the end of this summer, there will be MASSIVE, MASSIVE fires in the Russian Far East bigger than ANYTHING seen before
and the one I was in a few years ago was insane, thosands of sq miles choked with thick smoke
then after the fire, and first rain the mosquito's come
I've seen cattle killed by mosquitos in Siberia
I had to wear a beekeeper's hat and clothes, repellant doesn't work at all
you have to wash your clothes twice to get the smoke smell out
BTW,
if ukraine passes dual citizenship announced by Zelensky a few weeks ago, my wife and I intend to get Ukrainian citizenship
my family already had Israeli and costa rican residency
the 'mo choices, the better, for when the debt bomb explodes the US economy in about 10 yrs or so
and we gotta get out
i'd definitely like to invest in post war ukraine and hang out some with Ukr hackers!!
right now I'd probably have a blast hangin out with the drone makers in Odesa, but everyone got really pissed with me, when I started to talk about it
so I guess...not...
I feel old and useless now, a weird feeling
but I gotta lotta work to do, to GTF outta Texas into a better climate and I ain't just talkin 'bout the weather....
I have a scheme to sell all my rentals without paying taxes on profit, but it means I gotta move into each house and make it a temporary residence before sellin (at least on paper!)
I'm lookin at property in several areas, I want to buy a small family farm and live completely off-grid
several states DO NOT put property taxes on farms, and so living on a working farm is the way to go
NO utilities
NO taxes
NO insurance (everything is solid steel beam and concrete, underground)
I intend to grow Hemp and produce CBD Delta8 products, and can hide half my income from income taxes this way
this is how I'm gonna survive the future that's coming with WEIMAR Amerika
self sufficiency combined with escape plans if needed
there are only two possible outcomes to the debt bomb - so I need to convert $$$ into income producing assets that will survive the major dollar financial transition/collapse that HAS to come in the future
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[quote author=krimster2 link=topic=22223.msg570924#msg570924 date=1709324804
BTW,
if ukraine passes dual citizenship announced by Zelensky a few weeks ago, my wife and I intend to get Ukrainian citizenship
my family already had Israeli and costa rican residency
the 'mo choices, the better, for when the debt bomb explodes the US economy in about 10 yrs or so
and we gotta get out
i'd definitely like to invest in post war ukraine and hang out some with Ukr hackers!!
right now I'd probably have a blast hangin out with the drone makers in Odesa, but everyone got really pissed with me, when I started to talk about it
so I guess...not...
I feel old and useless now, a weird feeling
but I gotta lotta work to do, to GTF outta Texas into a better climate and I ain't just talkin 'bout the weather....
I have a scheme to sell all my rentals without paying taxes on profit, but it means I gotta move into each house and make it a temporary residence before sellin (at least on paper!)
I'm lookin at property in several areas, I want to buy a small family farm and live completely off-grid
several states DO NOT put property taxes on farms, and so living on a working farm is the way to go
NO utilities
NO taxes
NO insurance (everything is solid steel beam and concrete, underground)
I intend to grow Hemp and produce CBD Delta8 products, and can hide half my income from income taxes this way
this is how I'm gonna survive the future that's coming with WEIMAR Amerika
self sufficiency combined with escape plans if needed
there are only two possible outcomes to the debt bomb - so I need to convert $$$ into income producing assets that will survive the major dollar financial transition/collapse that HAS to come in the future
[/quote]
If I ever married a Ukrainian girl I would probably go for Legally Permanent Resident and avoid Dual Citizenship. From what I see you get all the perks of Citizenship without being able to vote in Ukraine, and who really cares about that without risk of downsides/being caught unawares. For me if I became a Ukrainian Dual who's to say they wouldn't try to conscript me for the front? - unlikely may be but if they are out of cannon fodder and don't no longer care how old, how decrepit, and see guys that don't live in Ukraine all the time anyway who knows? Then there is whatever they may do while abroad, invite letters, sanctions if invites aren't accepted for this, that and the other. A Permanent Resident they don't have the legal power over like they do a citizen as they are not a citizen. In the case of any offspring I would prefer legal permanent resident also to avoid them having such issues also.
In the UK my Father used to work with a guy who used to build houses live in them for 6 months to avoid the tax before selling them. He did very well out of it and became very wealthy. It's probably not so easy these days as building regs have gone through the roof and there is a lot more material build up in each house constructed as a result. So a lot of what would have been profit goes out in the extra cost of building materials and the time & cost of labour to fit it.
Taxes and Utilities are definitely something to try and avoid. In the UK my Mother just got her latest Water Bill, set by rateable value and being in one of the more expensive parts of the UK it's almost £1k for the year. She can move to a water meter but if she uses a lot of water that can be more, as she's a keen gardener there is a big question mark over that one and once you move to a water meter you can't move back. She has a rainwater butt but unless really going to town on that stuff she might end up paying more plus it can affect resale value of the house if a family want to buy it, i.e many people = more water usage = more cost.
I think it makes sense to have many plans for a Nuclear/Neutron bomb or other incidents. A bunker if in the UK or US, EU, etc makes sense, but also somewhere to go after the radiation has decreased to tolerable levels to get out of the place to a country not hit by Nukes, etc. Either that or live in countries not likely to be hit by Nukes permanently if you are able. In the event of a Nuclear type of strike there is limited time and either a short warning or none at all. If none at all then you don't likely want to be in big Cities but out in the countryside where time is more likely to be on your side and the impact of it all not as immediate unless unlucky. Possibly worst case scenario is being out in the car or out and about when it strikes and being able to find shelter or haul ass back to your Bunker quick enough. Best case scenario is being near your bunker at the time or being in a safe country abroad at the time.
I think it is good at your age or any age Krim to have something on the go however big or small. Better to do something worthwhile and have an aim or vision then vegetate, waste yourself and go downhill. So long as in reasonable health I think doing nothing is a killer in old age, sure you don't want to take on too much that can be also but too far to doing nothing just destroys the person I think.
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With post war Ukraine it looks like in terms of actual Construction is that it's all going to be fostered out as the joke goes lol. Norman Foster already seems to have his foot in the door and the big finance company's BlackRock, JP Morgan, etc that are amassing massive investment look set to dominate. Guys like Foster are likely already have in glove with them with agreements already in principle made behind closed doors. The tendering process is likely a mere formality for them.
Foster has already signalled an interest in redesigning Kharkiv in the vision of the great Foster perhaps with a statue of himself as the centre piece, turtle neck pullover and all :D
I doubt anyone else will get a look in as far as Construction is concerned. Rebuilding the existing Cities seems to be decided upon by the powers that be. If you can't somehow get a piece of the action by joining them then the only other way and more risky is to jump them and get Constructing in Ukraine now. That is a very uncertain thing though there's the risk of destruction of the build by bombs, Russian takeover, etc
My guess is that after the war if Ukraine survives then it may possibly come about that all State Housing in Ukraine is 'privatised' and sold off to US investors, probably handed over to BlackRock etc to pay for the war, they will 'manage' it and existing residents will have to pay them to continue living there. My guess is that post war the risk for many Ukrainians is that they will not enjoy the sweet delights of a victory but rather feel the shafting up the bum.
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Istoria 2024
http://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.167064/gov.uscourts.nvd.167064.15.0.pdf
In October 2023, SMIRNOV had in-person conversations with RUSSIAN OFFICIAL 1 overseas. During these conversations, RUSSIAN OFFICIAL 1 discussed his knowledge and seeming control of two groups of Russian operatives who were previously tasked with the assassination of a high-ranking official of COUNTRY C. RUSSIAN OFFICIAL 1 offered to stop the assassination efforts in exchange for certain things, including an agreement by COUNTRY C to stop targeting civilian-family members of certain Russian officials living in Moscow
Country C = Ukraine
Istoria 1963
Oswald meets with KGB political assassination expert Valery Vladimirovich Kostikov in Mexico City
Phutin's Plan
'yo homies...
Phutin is gearin up for a summer offensive with the goal of breaking through the line of contact and expanding it
there will be "incidents" involving the use of chemical weapns, including a "false flag" operation they blame on Ukraine involving the destruction of Ukrainian industrial chemicals that spread toxic gas that kills Russian soldiers...
Guess what happens after that?
Bedonkydonk Novichok-A236 on a limited basis near the industrial accident as "response"
and watch reaction from NATO....
and proceed from there....
estwhile in Kiev...
Russians are supporting and promoting anti-zelensky activities related to conscription to try and derail it, more political engineering a la hybrid warfare
I have lotsa hobbies, and moving is gonna be a big multi-year project
but I'm not "workin" any more for ANYONE, and i'm finding it hard to give up that life and live quietly
OTOH, i've started to develop a guilt complex for all the bad things I did in Russia, but it was all the fault of Russians, but still
there are certain images that will always stick with me
Today, the opportunities I'd have in Israel and Russia are staggering, but I gotta let it all go
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Lithuania seems to think that Russia will have enough resources to keep going for the next two years at current war intensity:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-can-fight-ukraine-least-two-years-lithuania-says-2024-03-07/
Article on the current drive to get enough ammunition to Ukraine to try and help counter Russia's upcoming Spring/Summer Offensive:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/inside-europes-drive-get-ammunition-ukraine-russia-advances-2024-03-06/
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Here's an article on the state of the situation at present for Ukraine:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68255490
Apparently, Ukrainian troops at the front are exhausted and depleted but unlike at the start of the war men aren't so willing to join up unsurprisingly. Without a dramatic victory in sight and the horrors of the front line becoming known Ukrainian men are understandably not so eager. Mind you if some Conscription dude rocked up to me in the street with a plastic false arm and ask me to join up it wouldn't inspire me with confidence either.
However, if more men aren't willing to go to the front the risk is that Ukraine will have too few men to hold the Russians back and they may break through and win the war, then the likelihood is that they will be inflicting rapings on the women there like the stuff they did in Bucha and elsewhere.
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four dead in Luhkoil baby
they're finally on their own
gotta get down, baby...
chorny plosh are coming
shoulda been gone long ago
Yalky Palky the Whiteboard's Chalky
Old Skool War Profiteers were "Industrialists"
Novo Skool = ????
Bizness Plan
1. HD FPV Video drones with warhead - sell an "experience" of killing actual Russian soldiers for $$$ on a Russian soldier hunting safari in Ukraine through an online video interface that you control, all major credit cards accepted
2. AID Delivery Volunteer for Ukraine - fund raise to deliver aid to sick and elederly ukrainians, make videos of delivering aid, you MUST have a cat that you feature in the videos that LATER gets killed by Russian shelling!!!
and more...
PS
Russian plan to divide Ukrainian leadership worked PERFECTLY!!!
Russians manipulated Zaluzhnyi's people and his removal led to an increase in chaos
which is ALWAYS Russia's goal, to increase disorder
this has cleard the way for Russian moles to tunnel through
and bag some major juicy treats
and there are TWO assassin teams in kyiv ALWAYS waiting for Zelensky's security team to make a mistake
in the future, you just tell the drone what you want...
"blow up any tanks you see, otherwise come back home" wizzzzzzzzzzzzz
and eventually, it's just gonna be one drone tellin another what to do, no hu-mans involved
which is a perfect matchup to the declining number of soldiers in western militaries
a convergence
nuclear ICBMs
we don't have no ICBMs, we don't need no stinkin ICBMs
when you can use hundreds of tesla auto-pilot cars and a starlink terminal add a chemical/biological warhead and take out any country you want
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A really good article here looking at Russia's dwindling supplies of mainly Soviet Armaments in it's old Soviet Armaments Storage bases. Russia continues to suffer huge losses on the battlefield of men and armaments as it tries to press home it's attacks on Ukraine. It can't resupply it's army with enough new Armaments it makes or Armaments bought in from Iran, North Korea, etc:
http://jamestown.org/program/russia-exhausts-soviet-era-arms-storage-bases/
Looks like the West's plan of exhausting Russia's ability to wage war is starting to work. Once Russia has exhausted it's Armaments it will no longer be able to use bully boy tactics of bringing huge numbers of Artillery to bear to pound each opponent into submission. Those days will be long gone for it.
The Article reckons that Russia will be exhausting it's Armaments by about 2025 if not sooner. It looks like Trump is going to walk it to becoming President again and it's questionable whether he will back Ukraine. However, by the time of his inauguration in early 2025, Russia might not be far off being obviously exhausted anyway in Armaments on the battlefield at its ability to succeed on the ground with a conventional Army severely stunted. If Russia looks to be that way then support from the EU/UK, Europe alone could be enough keep Ukraine in the game long enough for Russia to hold up it's hands and throw in the towel and leave Ukraine. My guess is by then Putler will look old and weak enough for others in positions of power in Russia to move against him as they seek to replace him blaming him for this failure in Ukraine.
We only need to hold on so much longer and the Russian roar will turn into a squeaking of a mouse :D
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Ukrainians largest Hydroelectric Dam in Zaphorziazhia hit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-68637596
Kharkiv's Power Plant destroyed and many other power infrastructure in Ukraine. Kharkiv without power also many other millions of Ukrainians without power across Ukraine as a result of these morning strikes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68634444
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so 'tis gonna be THAT KINDA FOIGHT now?
i'm tellin ya Trenchman....
you are staring at an opportunity for REDEMPTION of yur whole freakin miserable British life
but...
I'm SURE, like every other time you had such an opportunity
you'll wave "good by" to it and go back to watching "Red Dwarf" re-runs on the tele while munching on a Sainsbury frozen meat pie (dey is tasty!)
you could master "The Attention Economy" in Ukraine
and get 10X what Bald and Bankrupt got....
AND...
have a FREAKIN blast (perhaps an ill chosen word) doin it!!!!
and just rent out your place, and use yur mom/sister's place for base of operations in UK
this'd be ALMOST as good as going to medical school in ENGLISH in Ternopil State Univ and studyin Gynecology
then ONLY accept super model patiants
getting paid to get laid
how many guyz smart enuff to pull that off?
and here's YUR opportunity Trench
The Nebbish who roared and became a beacon of hope to a beleagured people
Trench, Putin set this whole war up in Ukraine - JUST TO GIVE YOU THIS OPPORTUNITY!!!!
just so you can make that Youtube $$$ and have super model Ukrainian girl friend(s)
read books on settin up a charity, talk to some other folks, read about monetizing Youtube, etc, Trench's Ukraine Rescue Gift Shop and Merchandise
and DO IT!!!
WTF???
Y NOT??
you would go to the head of the class if you did this Trench
insteada bein all the way in the back
now that I presented YOU with this
what are yur EXCUSES for NOT doin it?
the US State Dept warned us a few days ago about a pending terrorist attack in Moscow...
well...
the attack just happened
http://apnews.com/article/russia-moscow-gunmen-concert-hall-injuries-fe7db5bb4ad4df17b6cbd04a3250faa1
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Moscow Attack: Don’t Believe the Kremlin
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. Monday, March 25, 2024
Friday’s terrorist attack at the Crocus City Hall concert venue near Moscow killed more than 100 people in a brutal crime against humanity. Many key facts are still unclear, and rest assured they
will become only less clear as the Kremlin works to exploit the crisis
domestically and abroad.
Coming shortly after his latest sham election, the attack gave dicta-
tor Vladimir Putin a rallying cry one day after the Kremlin declared for the first time that Russia is in a “state of war” in Ukraine.
But the official Kremlin story line is already a shambles. In one of the most surveilled cities on earth, where you can be arrested in 30 seconds for whispering “no war,” the terrorists continued their attack for more than an hour and then simply drove away.
The FSB, Russia’s state security service, claims to have arrested four
suspects near Ukraine, at one of the most fortified borders in the world.
Or did the suspects actually drive to Russian ally Belarus, as that nation’s ambassador to Russia said? Considering the amount of materiel and In a heavily surveilled city, how could ISIS terrorists
have killed for nearly an hour and driven away?
In preparation required to do so much damage to a venue the size of a small village, it’s odd that the terrorists would suddenly turn into bungling amateurs by carrying their Tajik passports and heading to a militarized border.
Every official statement from the Kremlin and its propagandists will
be a lie, with a few half-truths tossed in. It’s a control reflex of the security state of which Mr. Putin is a product.
Mr. Putin angrily dismissed warnings from the U.S. Embassy on March 7 and March 18 about a potential terror attack at a concert venue in Moscow (How did the U.S. know? Was it sources in ISIS-K or, as I suspect, moles in the FSB?)
Then, on March 22, Mr. Putin issued orders to conscript hundreds of thousands more Russians for his war of conquest against Ukraine. Twenty-five years ago, when then-Prime Minister Putin needed a platform for his presidential campaign, a series of terrorist apartment bombings in Russia launched the Second Chechen War. I laid out the copious evidence that these were
false-flag attacks, staged by the FSB, in my 2015 book, “Winter Is Coming.” It’s a deed so shocking that it is difficult to believe—until you realize what sort of man Mr. Putin is. He has no allergy to blood, Russian or any other kind, if spilling it furthers his goals.
Twenty-five years ago, Mr. Putin grabbed power by committing mass murder in Chechnya. Today, in hope of staying in power, Mr. Putin is committing mass murder in Ukraine.
The West’s weakness encourages Russian escalation. White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan was just in Kyiv, but instead of helping Ukraine fight off the daily Rus-
sian attacks on its energy infrastruc-
ture by delivering weapons, he was
apparently there to discourage
Ukraine from doing the same to Rus-
sia. On Friday the Financial Times re-
ported that the U.S. has pressured
Ukraine not to attack Russian oil in-
frastructure for fear of raising global
gas prices—which might harm Presi-
dent Biden’s re-election chances.
Russian air power devastates Ukraine
because America promised Ukraine
F-16s but says it takes too long to
train the pilots. Last week Mr. Bi-
den’s administration even vetoed a
Group of Seven statement condemn-
ing Russia’s fake elections.
All this suggests Mr. Biden fears
Russian defeat more than Russian
victory. As I documented in August,
this is the continuation of a betrayal
of a democratic ally and of American
security interests.
It’s a cowardly new world order.
The White House is busy telling
Ukraine where it can’t shoot and tell-
ing Israel where it can’t hunt terror-
ists. Instead of providing leadership
to unite democratic allies against
dictators, Mr. Biden’s administration
puts limits on America’s allies to
protect America’s enemies. You don’t
have to wonder what Taiwan and
China make of America’s descent
into passivity.
Republican obstruction of aid to
Ukraine is despicable, but Mr. Biden
can’t use it to excuse his own poli-
ticking and inaction. America has the
largest military arsenal known to
man, but it rusts in warehouses
while Ukrainians die. Harry Truman
had to face down Stalin and said the
buck stopped with him. Mr. Biden
says the buck stops with Speaker
Mike Johnson. Donald Trump threat-
ens isolationism in speeches and so-
cial-media posts; Mr. Biden is mak-
ing isolationism a reality by refusing
to stand up to dictators or to his
own domestic opposition.
Mr. Biden retreated from Afghani-
stan, and Russia invaded Ukraine. He
retreated from Ukraine, and Hamas
launched a war against Israel. Weak-
ness invites aggression.
Mr. Putin believes he needs per-
petual war to hold on to power. He is
creating the conditions to radicalize
the Russian population further and
to fulfill his new mobilization or-
ders. By summer, the new conscripts
will be at Ukraine’s front lines.
Ukraine can’t survive this year un-
less America’s leaders do what is
right instead of what they think is
politically expedient.
Like all dictators, Mr. Putin excels
at creating distractions from his
crimes. The Moscow attack will draw
global attention away from his war
on Ukraine, but it won’t distract him
at all. Mourn for every innocent life
lost in Moscow, but also act to save
the next one in Ukraine.
If a suspected serial killer is at
large, the first thing to do when
there’s a murder is to check his alibi.
Mr. Putin is under indictment for
war crimes, and his bloody track re-
cord makes him suspect No. 1. There
can be no common cause against ter-
ror with Russia when the world’s
most accomplished terrorist rules
the Kremlin.
Mr. Kasparov is a co-founder of
the World Liberty Congress and
chairman of the Renew Democracy Initiative
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Recent war news:
Today the conscription age in Ukraine is lowered from 27 to 25 in order to replenish Ukraine's Army losses:
http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/3/7449401/
Zelensky says that Russia is mobilizing 300,000 troops to be ready by June:
http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/3/7449470/index.amp
Russia troop losses including casualties are apparently nearing 450,000 so with such high losses it may be that they are to replace Army losses in the Donbas rather than opening up any new front.
Ukraine managed to destroy almost 1000 Artillery pieces of the Russian forces in March. They've destroyed at least 12,000 or so Russian Artillery pieces so far. At that rate Russia may end up without any Artillery by some time next year.
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Ukraine managed to destroy almost 1000 Artillery pieces of the Russian forces in March. They've destroyed at least 12,000 or so Russian Artillery pieces so far. At that rate Russia may end up without any Artillery by some time next year.
I think Russia is able to replenish all their equipment, amunition, supplies, etc. through their own production and through purchases from China, N. Korea, Iran, et al.
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every dollar of us military aid to ukraine destroys 10 times the amount of
Russian hardware and personnel with NO risk to NATO
what a DEAL!!! we should take it!!!
Russia has to pay the operating costs of the war (about 400 million USD/Day)
Russia has to pay to replace lost equipment for a couple hundred more billion USD
and Russia plans on paying to boost it's military production (should only take 10 yr and a few hundred more billion in corruption)
this is the same industrial system, that's having trouble producing Ladas under sanctions, tanks?? haha
meanwhile, it's source of funding, is being choked, what russian european gas market?
did I mention that Russia's GDP is like 10% the USA's - so these costs are even more substantial to them
Russians are gonna live in shacks and eat dirt to pay for this war, and by summer there's gonna be 500,000 Russian casualties (and zero NATO casualties)
Putin is so dependent on China, that he's letting China take over Russia's far east, cuz he can't afford NOT TO
at some point gopnicks are gonna realize that the 500,000 Russian casualties, doesn't include ANY oligarchy offspring
mainly poor, middle aged Russians and minorities with health issues plus PRISONERS
all these 'accumulating external deficits' are in the hidden cost of the war, but are still part of the balance sheet under "COST"
someone needs to tell Putin about Lao Tsu and the art of war
cuz so far, Putin hasn't done one "right thing" accordin to Lao Tsu, like attack "where the enemy is weakest" and other sage advice, which seems to be completely ignored by Putin
cuz otherwise, this "war" coulda been run through Ukrainian proxies, like it was before maidan
ya need a committee of 10 oligarchs + employees to run that
look how little it takes here in the USA, a handful of deep pocket oligarchs is all you need
to take over a country
all putin had to do, was to help russian oligarch's control Ukraine's economy
no war, just corruption
half the stuff, Russia buys from North Korea has Q.C problems and is junk
every dollar of us military aid to ukraine strengthens the American defense industry (ya'll might wanna start thinkin 'bout that, in case of one day needin it...)
Trump is the only thing blocking aid to ukraine (through his house MAGA proxies)
meanwhile Trump will loot the republican party til it's as bankrupt as he's gonna be
so...
be patient, Trump destroys everything he touches, it's why oligarchs chose him, to tear down the government, so they can enrich themselves even farther
but...instead Trump will destroy the Republican party this year, by taking the party's money for himself instead of spending on down ballot candidates
I just love IRONY, don't you?
Trump is Putin's last hope for a Ukrainian victory without WMDs
so....
7 months and counting....
the Trump/Putin nexus will FINALLY be over with by next year
that's the "good news"
the bad news is about what's coming after that
and ya know what?
I ain't gonna say anything 'bout that
it's gonna be "SURPRISE!!!!"
advantage of bein old
I don't fear the reaper, I welcome him
but you younguns are SO phuqued in the future...
it won't REALLY matter what yur gonna do...
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I think Russia is able to replenish all their equipment, amunition, supplies, etc. through their own production and through purchases from China, N. Korea, Iran, et al.
For sure it can but only so long until the money runs out. They will be spending all the way along then after their Armaments run out, then their money runs out not long after and they are screwed, a shattered remnants of an Army with no good weapons or Armaments and an economy that is broke and in freefall. That's when things will change.
Meanwhile there has been further talk of Conscription. East European countries like Estonia are doing so and they want other NATO countries like the UK to also, lol.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68728096
I would like to see them try, I don't think they will and if they did their efforts wouldn't likely be successful. People here just aren't that way minded and too few that are, are in any condition for it.
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An article on Conscription in Ukraine:
http://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/04/pentagon-ukraine-weapon-shipments-00150639
Ukraine is apparently on the verge of losing its front lines and is seriously short of Armaments, Weapons & Ammunition. Apparently the age age of Ukrainian soldiers is 43! That's pretty old compared to other wars like WWII where it was around 26 years old. A lot of older guys joined up in Ukraine to safe the younger ones, their sons etc from having to fight. Some possibly fed up of life or know that they only have old age ahead of them and so long left anyway, etc.
Anyway, that means there are guys my age and older out there fighting on the front lines. It's doable at that age no doubt but for many they won't be in as good a shape as a guy in his twenties. Often 40 or possibly 45 is the ceiling age fur conscription.
A new fortified line is being built behind the present lines and it looks possible that Ukrainian forces may have to retreat back to these lines to try and hold of the Russians. More supplies of Armaments & ammunition are on the way to Ukraine apparently from Europe but it's just a question if they can get it there in time. Ukraine has dropped it's conscription age to 25 so it could now be a race on for Ukraine to get it together in time before a big anticipated Russian Spring Offensive.
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a little bird told me that
russia is gonna setoff a REALLY BIG nuclear weapon in the ocean.....
one of them midget submarine/nuclear torpedo "thingys"
possibly right around the time the US votes on Ukrainian aid
duh boid said, dat this is a Tsunami Bomb
so I asked duh boid, where can he test such a device that causes a 1,500 foot high radioactive wall of water to hit land?
and duh boid laughed and flew away
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a little bird told me that
russia is gonna setoff a REALLY BIG nuclear weapon in the ocean.....
one of them midget submarine/nuclear torpedo "thingys"
possibly right around the time the US votes on Ukrainian aid
duh boid said, dat this is a Tsunami Bomb
so I asked duh boid, where can he test such a device that causes a 1,500 foot high radioactive wall of water to hit land?
and duh boid laughed and flew away
Isn't the US Presidential Election, i.e Trump getting in as President going to be too late for Russia?
By the time he gets in, it's going to be late January 2025. If it's still stalemate as it is in Ukraine then is there really much he could do?
By late January 2025 Russia will only be a few months away from exhausting it's Armaments and Finance. It could exhaust Armaments & Finance anytime between that time and perhaps up to Summer 2025 likely at the latest.
Odds are that if the Ukrainians are able to hold out to late January 2025 they will likely be able to hold out a few months longer. Literally at such a time it may only be perhaps 2-3 months longer before Russia is exhausted of Armaments & Finance. Ukraine could conceivably hold out that long entrenched in their lines and fortifications without America's help. So long as it receives enough help from the EU countries/UK, etc it could hold on. Thinking back to WWI the lines of trenches are never really broken there on either side. Germany only capitulated after they were blockaded and ran out of food. Ukraine has their border with the EU open so doesn't have that problem.
It's going to likely become apparent pretty quickly to most by early 2025 that Russia is running low on Armaments, Finance and it's economy probably cracking under the strain of it all.
For the East European EU countries and perhaps the EU in general they tend to have a vested interest in Supplying Ukraine with Armaments to avoid having a powerful Russia in future on their border. So they may see it in their interests to keep supplying Ukraine with Armaments.
So far there are a lot of news articles about countries in central & eastern Europe supplying Ukraine with Armaments but I get the impression little has gotten through yet. Whether it does or it's all talk we'll find out soon I guess.
If Europe doesn't end up supplying Ukraine with more Armaments then to my mind I would see it as deliberate. Bothe the US and European countries have enormous Arsenals of Armaments & Weapons they could supply Ukraine with. In such a scenario of them not digging into their stockpiles I would see it as them purposely wanting Russia to win in Ukraine. Why? I would put that down to rich Industrialists wanting to reboot the Military Industrial complex across Europe and probably the US also, essentially a return to the Cold War era of countries spending a lot of their wealth on their Armies, Armaments & Weapons in fear of the bogeyman of a powerful, hostile Russia. If Russia has their border hard up against the EU, winning in Ukraine with an building a big powerful Army then the Military Industrialists can stoke that as reason to spend out lots of money on Armies, Armaments & Weapons to safeguard against the Russian threat.
Already in the UK we have had arguments for restocking our Army, bolstering troop numbers that have fallen low and spending out on new gear to create a too notch Army to be prepared against a threat from Russia. If course if Russia wins in Ukraine that threat will be there for decades to come meaning those Military Industrialists will be having their pockets lined for a long time to come. Attention at the moment in the UK really does seem to have shifted from stopping Putin in Ukraine to preparing for readiness of a future Russian threat.
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"Isn't the US Presidential Election, i.e Trump getting in as President going to be too late for Russia?"
NO
y'know why?
cuz as long as the war continues, Putin can use the war as a tool to control the russian people MUCH better than he could pre-war
the profits of the war, ALL belong to the oligarchy
the costs of the war are all paid by the people
so ya see why he's NOT really worried, he's making bank from it
the war is Putin's Cloak of Invincibility within Russia, cuz of the war he's free to do ANYTHING, and the people will shut-up about it or go to the gulag (then sent to the front)
so Putin will keep fighting as long as he's alive to preserve his dick-tater-ship (and doesn't give a flyin phuque about the suffering of the Russian people)
and THAT is REALLY what this war is all about
but...
kinda hard to get Russians to die by the hundreds of thousands to preserve the dick-tater-ship of the world's richest criminal politician (Putin is about 50X richer than Trump)
so ya call Ukrainians Fascista, and make millions of movies about Russians fighting fascista
and frame the war this way to the Russian people
to fill them with noble purpose, as they try to steal their neighbor's land and kidnap their children
the rest is easy...
Russians are even DUMBER than Trump Bible Buying US Republicans
no one ever lost money relying on the incredible level of stoopidity of "average" Russians or Republicans buying Trump Bibles and Sneakers
if Trump loses, then Putin will be in a stalemate in Ukraine, with no possibility of EVER taking Kyiv
while the war of attrition depletes his logistics
at the same time NATO increases it to Ukraine
at some point sliding down that slippery slope
there's gonna be a search for an alternative 'solution'
and it's either Nukes or Novichok deployed in Ukraine
but that's next year at the earliest
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if Trump loses, then Putin will be in a stalemate in Ukraine, with no possibility of EVER taking Kyiv
while the war of attrition depletes his logistics
at the same time NATO increases it to Ukraine
at some point sliding down that slippery slope
there's gonna be a search for an alternative 'solution'
and it's either Nukes or Novichok deployed in Ukraine
but that's next year at the earliest
Surely that's the same situation if Biden wins. Biden is for supporting Ukraine with Armaments, Trump apparently not so. Either way if Ukraine holds out long enough then Russia will start to run out of Armaments & Finance. Putler won't want to go there as running out of both means a defeat in Ukraine and that means an almost certain end for him.
So whoever wins the US Presidential Election unless Russian makes progress by conventional means in Ukraine in the meantime it's going to be likely mini Neutron Bombs, mini Nukes or Novichok type of chemicals used in Ukraine to break the Ukrainian front lines at the very least I would assume.
That doesn't bode well for our Beefarmuh, as he'll have learnt a language of a non-existent country. Kind of worse than learning Latin :-\
Then there's the concern over the fate of his soldier girl :-\
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Putin hoped that getting Trump proxies to halt Ukraine aid will give him a military advantage
and IT HAS!
without US support, there can be no large-scale Ukrainian offensive towards Crimea
and Ukraine will not have the means to "fully mobilize" or continue to fight to the same degree
Putin hopes that if HE were to "fully mobilize" while Ukraine was unable, might give him the edge in the war of attrition
but, it looks like Ukraine aid may get voted on this month
t'was very simple to get Trump elected in 2016
the guy who was the CTO of the largest child pornagraphy ring in the world eventually ended up in a Russian jail after a "concerned" American citizen 8) sent an anonymous tip to the secret service
this guy then worked for the GRU in a siberian prison, and was the dewd who hacked Hillary's emails
he even wrote a book about it!!!
Oleg Deripaska, a major Russian oligarch who was coordinating Trump's campaign with Paul Manafort, bribed the head of the FBI's Russian cyber crime unit Charles McGonigall into causing a public announcement of the FBI's investigation into Hillary's emails, after the hacking, remember, "lock her up"
but of course after the election, the FBI investigation announced there was nothing illegal found in Hillary's emails, "our bad, sorry! oops!"
this shows, that if yur smart, you don't need a big sledgehammer to fight
just a little tiny needle - and the knowledge of WHERE to stab yur victim
"less is SO MUCH more"
sometimes, Putin "gets" the needle approach
and sometimes he just doesn't...
so frustrating
cuz the needle approach was the best way to deal with Ukraine, like RusUkrEnergo and not this stoopid phuqued-up war
but now if you tell Putin that, he'll get pissed off and send ya to the front with a pointed stick to charge Ukrainian positions, so ain't NOBODY gonna tell him!!!!
not even me
Bee Farmer, is a modem dating, poor, socially isolated, uneducated janitor/maintenance worker with NO experience in actually living, and thus confuses living and existing
good luck in Ukraine BeeFarmer with those outstanding qualifications LOL
WHY does every cripple like Bee Farmer do this little dance of theirs?
don't they ever look in the mirror and see how ridiculous they look, or are they just "that" unaware of themselves to ever notice...
in a previous disclaimer I fully confess my own sins on this board
chiefly being a sociopathic troll
i'm aware of my problems, OTOH BeeFarmer isn't even remotely aware of his 'issues'
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Putin hoped that getting Trump proxies to halt Ukraine aid will give him a military advantage
and IT HAS!
without US support, there can be no large-scale Ukrainian offensive towards Crimea
and Ukraine will not have the means to "fully mobilize" or continue to fight to the same degree
Putin hopes that if HE were to "fully mobilize" while Ukraine was unable, might give him the edge in the war of attrition
but, it looks like Ukraine aid may get voted on this month
t'was very simple to get Trump elected in 2016
the guy who was the CTO of the largest child pornagraphy ring in the world eventually ended up in a Russian jail after a "concerned" American citizen 8) sent an anonymous tip to the secret service
this guy then worked for the GRU in a siberian prison, and was the dewd who hacked Hillary's emails
he even wrote a book about it!!!
Oleg Deripaska, a major Russian oligarch who was coordinating Trump's campaign with Paul Manafort, bribed the head of the FBI's Russian cyber crime unit Charles McGonigall into causing a public announcement of the FBI's investigation into Hillary's emails, after the hacking, remember, "lock her up"
but of course after the election, the FBI investigation announced there was nothing illegal found in Hillary's emails, "our bad, sorry! oops!"
this shows, that if yur smart, you don't need a big sledgehammer to fight
just a little tiny needle - and the knowledge of WHERE to stab yur victim
"less is SO MUCH more"
sometimes, Putin "gets" the needle approach
and sometimes he just doesn't...
so frustrating
cuz the needle approach was the best way to deal with Ukraine, like RusUkrEnergo and not this stoopid phuqued-up war
but now if you tell Putin that, he'll get pissed off and send ya to the front with a pointed stick to charge Ukrainian positions, so ain't NOBODY gonna tell him!!!!
not even me
Bee Farmer, is a modem dating, poor, socially isolated, uneducated janitor/maintenance worker with NO experience in actually living, and thus confuses living and existing
good luck in Ukraine BeeFarmer with those outstanding qualifications LOL
WHY does every cripple like Bee Farmer do this little dance of theirs?
don't they ever look in the mirror and see how ridiculous they look, or are they just "that" unaware of themselves to ever notice...
in a previous disclaimer I fully confess my own sins on this board
chiefly being a sociopathic troll
i'm aware of my problems, OTOH BeeFarmer isn't even remotely aware of his 'issues'
Yeah I don't know why Beefarmer insists on the 'I'm just fine, no problems with me' carry on. Strange to try and think he can cover it up by dancing around the problem.
Anyhow I get what you're saying Krim and it makes sense. Of course Russia too has it's own Military Industrialists, the Oligarchs and at the moment they are getting fed big money by this war, thereby fulfilling their need for a bigger personal Empire which they can pass on as needed to their clan all baying for more as they do so over time through getting bigger. After that I assume they are hopeful of getting a piece of the pie of Ukraine when they take that.
For Ukraine the future looks bleak I would guess. Even if the US supply then with a lot of Armaments to move forward, if they move towards Crimea that as you've stated before it puts Putler in a Checkmate position. Once he is put in that position then he has little choice as he sees it but to use mini Nukes, Neutron bombs and Novichok on Ukrainian troops to win the war.
So unless Putler suddenly dies, or a sudden coup, or big internal strife, etc then it looks like at some stage Ukraine is doomed in the next year or so. I'm betting they will have wished that they had kept their Nukes and not signed them away back in the 90s. A foolish move.
So once Ukrainian forces are defeated one way or another and Russian forces break through and move in I'm guessing a lot of Ukrainians will head to the border with a sense of urgency to begin over in the EU, UK, etc. I suppose some Ukrainians might stay to try and hold onto their assets, apartments, houses, etc those that own them and some might stay because they just can't be bothered to move, don't know other languages well, have a free flat, set in their lifestyle, area, etc.
Then the whole of Ukraine I assume will be under Russian control, essentially a part of Russia again. Out with the Ukrainian language, symbols and statues and back in with the Russian language, symbols, statue's, etc. I would guess that the best property in Ukraine would get taken by Russians whilst the worst would end up abandoned and decaying. Those apartment blocks that are bombed out no longer needed and either left or knocked down.
So if seeking a FSW in Ukraine after such a point I am guessing ability to speak the Russian language might once again prove useful. English teaching in Schools I would guess would likely be forbidden along with the Ukrainian language.
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http://twitter.com/i/status/1777308142814040271
modern living in Russian provinces
apparently the solution to this problem is to invade your neighbor and steal their toilettes and washing machines, oh and their kids
which yur gonna need, when a half million or more of yur kids get killed in the war or become paraplegics
IMHO, this is undeniable PROOF that humans are the stoopidest species on this planet
not even cockroaches are this dumb and their brain is just a little speck of tissue
the WAR is a big spinning Russian power grinder
western military aid to ukraine
is an iron fist, pushing Russia's face into their own grinder
THIS is the only way to stop the Russian bullying of it's neighbors by helping them turn the bully's face into "gamburger" whenever he assults them
no PEACE PLAN or Surrender will do that, in fact it will do the EXACT opposite
this summer Russian casualties pass the 500,000 mark and keeps movin up daily towards A MILLION in exchange for a couple of "new provinces" that are COMPLETELY destroyed and are a financial liability to Russia
I guess Russian lives are REALLY CHEAP, if that's all you can get in exchange for half a million Russians
meanwhile, due to lack of funding and neglect, EVERYTHING is falling apart in Russia + Russians themselves are protesting with BIC lighters, industrial arson is skyrocketing in Russia
take Orenberg, a major Petroleum hub
couple of days ago, while releasing water from a dam, the dam collapsed and flooded the whole DAMN city (a week before that, same thing happened in Russian far east)
stuff like this happens every day in Russia now
cuz all the money goes to the war (after corruption siphons off half, with half of that going to Putin who then berates everyone else for their 'lack of effectivenes')
it's really too damned bad, that humans are this damned stoopid
cuz otherwise, people in this country would form some small clue about what an autocracy looks like based on the russian example
and might appreciate 'democracy' more even if it includes brown people and the LGQT community or anyone else who isn't vanilla white christian conservative heterosexual
plus the billionaire puppet masters on whose behalf the party is actually focused on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
Republicans have been following this strategy for decades
this is gonna be the year that this strategy FAILS BIGLY
thanks to Trump, MAGA by the end of this year, will return the Republican party back to their roots as "The Know Nothing Party"
whose appeal is confined to morons, conspiracy theorists, and anti-vaxers and their ilk who follow oligarch owned media's brainwashing, Fox News et al
if you dumb phuques end up getting Trump elected again some how
then you will richly deserve the consequnces
same way you paid last time he was president
how many of you NEEDLESSLY died during covid, how many extra TRILLIONS needed to be spent...
cuz Trump ONLY cared about Trump
same way Putin only cares about Putin
how can EVERYONE be so damned blind to this reality
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OMG!!
Putin is accusing Hunter Biden and Burisma for plotting the Crocus Mall attack!!!! LOL!!!!
go on any news source to hear about it, this is just a few hours old
let's watch what Trump does with this, hahahahaha
don't ya'll see what's comin next from Putin?
this will be his Reichstag moment, his chance to get 'payback' and claim he's justified for doin it
this is ALWAYS how it works
meanwhile, Israel is bein smart
they just told Iran
hey, you phuquers retaliate against us for blowing up yur embassy in syria that was actually a hezbollah command center
and we're gonna strike every single one of your nuclear facilities
and THIS is why the USA has no choice but to give Israel all the weapons it needs, and Israel understands this
let Ukraine finish Russia FOR US
and let Israel finish Iran FOR US
give em all yur old weapons
and replace em with new upgraded ones
and kill two birds with one stone
and get a brand new sling as well
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I agree Krim it would be better for the West to give Ukraine much of it's Armaments that are soon to become obsolete, scrapped & replaced anyway. The UK has a good couple of hundred Challenger 2 tanks that are soon to be obsolete and replaced by Challenger 3 tanks. Ukraine needs stuff like that now. Whether Ukraine will win through or fall foul of mini Nukes/Neutron bombs, Novichok, etc still remains to be seen, but I think it's worthwhile giving it a go in resisting the Russian Invasion as much as possible.
Here is the latest UK/Ukraine news:
http://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-ukraine-sign-new-defence-pact
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A big power plant destroyed in Kyiv yesterday:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-11/ukraine-says-kyiv-region-s-largest-power-plant-destroyed
Apparently Ukraine is almost exhausted of air defence missiles which risked the threat of more damage being done than the cost of the air defence missiles themselves would cost. Such losses to Ukraine's power infrastructure doesn't help Ukraine at the front either.
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Apparently Iran might soon attack Israel, another possible war?
http://www.lbc.co.uk/news/joe-biden-iran-imminent-attack-israel-us-support-ironclad/
If so it could be a chance to take out Iran, doing so I would stop the supply of weapons from Iran to Russia. Israel alone mag be too small a country to do it but if the US come in then defeating Iran could be possible.
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the lingua-franca of the FSU is RUSSIAN and will ALWAYS be RUSSIAN....
and nothin's gonna change that....
it's obvious you ain't no Russian, so there won't be any 'pushback'
whether ya say 'gamburger' insteada 'hamburger' don't matter
you still ain't gonna get any ketchup with it
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the lingua-franca of the FSU is RUSSIAN and will ALWAYS be RUSSIAN....
and nothin's gonna change that....
it's obvious you ain't no Russian, so there won't be any 'pushback'
whether ya say 'gamburger' insteada 'hamburger' don't matter
you still ain't gonna get any ketchup with it
I'm intrigued to know why you think that Krim?
If Ukraine made it through and sees of the Russians I can't see them teaching Russian in schools there anymore not can I see parents teaching their children it with all that has happened. Many have lost loved ones to Russia and that's going to bear in deep into them for a long time I think, certainly a generation or so. As they say there are few if anyone who doesn't know if someone they have lost in it all, civilian or military. There is now widespread revulsion of all things Russian as a result as it's been going on so long the hatred of Russia seems to have risen, of the situation, of losses. Most now seems to have turned against Russian culture, language, etc.
Western companies are moving big money into Ukraine, so English has taken big prominence there.
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why?
cuz ya can change the future, but not the PAST....
all the languages of the FSU have Russian embedded within them to some degree...
and everywhere throughout the FSU there are large ethnic Russian 'enclaves' who primarily speak Russ
it be like 'dis Holmes
humans and animals are more alike than different
you can fer instance, hunt squirrels WITHOUT a 'squirrel call" (this is a little device you blow into that makes a 'squirrel noise')
but you learn how to use a squirrel call you'll be a much more effective squirrel hunter
success is the sum of small efforts
PS
I was so danged successful at squirrel huntin (cuz they started knawing on the wooden parts of my house) that there ain't no more squirrels in my neighborhood squirrel-frei
if you got a squirrel problem in 'yo neighborhood, WHO YA GONNA CALL?
I am the pesticide
BTW, ya wanna see if somone is ACTUALLY a German infiltrator SPY???
ask 'em to pronounce squirrel
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why?
cuz ya can change the future, but not the PAST....
all the languages of the FSU have Russian embedded within them to some degree...
and everywhere throughout the FSU there are large ethnic Russian 'enclaves' who primarily speak Russ
You make some good points Krim, I am glad my Russian learning may not go to waste lol. While I am no fan of what Russian is doing I don't like to waste time and energy so I may well just keep a hand in with doing the odd but if learning and refreshing my memory every so often for a few minutes here and there. No point letting the time and effort input already go to waste.
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Apparently Iran might soon attack Israel, another possible war?
http://www.lbc.co.uk/news/joe-biden-iran-imminent-attack-israel-us-support-ironclad/
If so it could be a chance to take out Iran, doing so I would stop the supply of weapons from Iran to Russia. Israel alone mag be too small a country to do it but if the US come in then defeating Iran could be possible.
The attack warning turned out to be true:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68810053
This would be a good opportunity for Israel to declare war on Iran. It could serve Israel and the West well to take out Iran, a return to Persia perhaps? Doing so would solve a lot of problems and remove a menace from the world.
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So the big question, who will win in Ukraine, Russia or Ukraine?
Here is a recent article suggesting a Russian victory:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68778338
I though am not so sure unless the Russians break through the lines with conventional forces or by use of unconventional methods.
For Ukraine they only have to hold on so long for Russia to run out of Armaments and/or Finance for the war effort.
That will likely be in about a year to likely at most 18 months time.
By the time Russia starts running low on Armaments and Finance it needs to decide whether to use Nuclear, Neutron or Chemical weapons to win the war or admit defeat and pull out of Ukraine. That is if some big event doesn't happen in Russia first like a big uprising, a coup or ousting of Putler.
The bottom line seems to be though that at most this war is likely to run for a maximum of a year to 18 months before we see who has won. That the war is highly unlikely to go for any longer than that.
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google "the Republican Russian Caucus" a motley crew of MAGA racists and homophobes (shhhh, don't call 'em that)
the Republican Russian caucus has handed Phutin 'a window of opportunity'
and they'll try to keep this window open for him 'as long as possible'
by delaying or denying the Ukraine Aid Bill between now and the election (the delay is 6 months so far)
imagine if in WWII, the Republican German Caucus vetoed Lend-Lease to the UK
after the Gestapo aided the election of the leader of the Republican Party
and as a result, the UK got the shite kicked out of it by Hitler
see how clever...
as Zelensky has said, "Ukraine can't beat Russia without the US's help"
any 'Peace Plan" put forth by Putin, was viewed simply as a way for Russia to buy time to regroup and rearm and to then relaunch their attack with renewed vigor
i'm wondering, if Zelensky should pursue a similar approach for the same reason
and await the outcome of the US election this Nov, and resume the war, if the outcome is in his favor
i'm sure his staff has done a 'cost/benefit' analysis
so he'll know when the war gets to the point that this is a good strategy for him
but currently, he's not at this point
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son of a gun!!!!
GOOD NEWS!
Ukraine bill may actually get voted on next week!!!!
BAD NEWS!
they're gonna throw out the old bill and start over with a new bills to separate Ukraine/Israel aid
so this is gonna take s'more time
meanwhile 'Moscow Marjorie"
Marjorie Taylor Greene has introduced an amendment to the foreign aid bill to require members of Congress who vote in favor of providing aid to Ukraine to join the Ukraine's military.
http://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-ukraine-aid-billl-join-army-mike-johnson-republicans-1891582
after this stunt, it'd be freakin hilarious if Ukraine gave 'honorary' commisions in the Ukrainian Army to the yes voters
if the bill passes, there ain't NEVER gonna be a Trump Tower in Moscva City Center!!!
our 'Comedy Club Congress"
in response to 'Moscow Marjorie's amendment, a counter-amendment has been filed naming Moscow Marjorie as Putin's Envoy
http://crooksandliars.com/2024/04/rep-jared-moscowitz-submits-amendment-make
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more progress on ukraine's aid bill!
1st step done
it's been streamlined, it's possible to have this 'a done deal' within a week, and signed by President Biden
unless...
"The Russian Caucus" intends to renew their obstruction in some new fashion
in another bill, Israel to receive 26 billion USD for NOT blowin the crap outta Iran or damaging it's oil production
but Moscow Marjorie wanted the 'Jewish Space Lasers' for the border to zap hang gliding border crossers (True Story)
Nero fiddled while Rome burned
today, we have a whole damned orchestra
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But our military aid to Ukraine is also revitalizing our defense industrial base, creating hot production lines for the weapons we need to deter potential adversaries and creating manufacturing jobs in the United States. That’s because 90 percent of the $68 billion in military and related assistance Congress has thus far approved is not going to Ukraine but is being spent in the United States, according to an analysis by Mark Cancian of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
With a team of researchers at the American Enterprise Institute, I have catalogued the weapons systems being produced in the United States for Ukraine, identifying the congressional districts where they are being made and how House members voted on the funding. We analyzed contracts and news releases and spoke to defense industry experts, diplomats and Pentagon officials to determine where U.S. tax dollars end up. We found that our military aid is providing a major cash infusion to 122 defense production lines in 65 congressional districts across the country that directly benefits American workers — and that doesn’t count all the suppliers that provide these contractors with parts or all the shops, restaurants and other businesses that support the factories rolling out weapons in these districts.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/18/ukraine-map-districts-weapons/
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The Bill just passed in the House!!
goes to the senate, should quickly pass there....
there have been a LOT of Republicans quitting the house this year
a story is goin around, that several non-MAGA republicans were gonna QUIT immediately if Mike Johnson was replaced as House Speaker by the "Freedumb Caucus" to block the Ukraine vote
thus giving Democrats a temporary majority, but one thay could still vote with
and since such an odius event would be hung around the necks of the Freedumb Caucus, with just 6+ months left to the election
the Freedumb Caucus appears to have backed down to save their own asses
and now even 'Dear Leader' of the Freedumb Caucuus, AKA The Orange Shit Gibbon (said w/affection), has reversed his position in the last 48 hrs and is now pro-Ukraine aid
real politik is always about 'preserving your own power' as yur highest priority
and recognizing things that threaten it
the biggest threat to the Freedumb Caucus, turned out to be the Freedumb Caucus itself
whenever you see such chaos, it doesn't all 'just happen', no, there's always someone ya can't see in the driver's seat
one day we'll hear the delightful details of this road trip
meanwhile Medvedev, aka Trollstoy, had the following to say
"But considering the rusophobic decision that took place I can't help but wish the USA with all sincerity to dive into a new civil war themselves as quickly as possible. Which, I hope, will be very different from the war between North and South in the 19th century and will be waged using aircraft, tanks, artillery, MLRS, all types of missiles and other weapons. And which will finally lead to the inglorious collapse of the vile evil empire of the 21st century - the United States of America."
he gleaned his material from stuff I wrote on RWD, doncha know
Russians shoulda hired me after all...
I still wouldn't sleep with Putin's daughter cuz of her uncanny resemblence to Putin
this image would be 'inhibitory' instead of arousing, and I don't care if she's in charge of "Import Substitution' and is one of the biggest grifters in Russia
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Trump's switching to the 'winning side' has major implications for the upcoming "oktyabr surprize'
before it wuz always gonna be directed against biden
now...i'm thinkin' it might not be...
because the 'useful idiot' just demoted himself to only bein an idiot in Putin's eyes
and is now more useful as a 'casus belli' to get the Jan 6 crowd to act once more, if 'something were to happen'
I derive this, from Medvedev's comments
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Senate just passed the ukraine aid bill
President Biden will sign it tomorrow
Ukraine is NOW getting EVERYTHING they wanted, F-16s and long range Rockets, and Patriots
and will also get about an additional 8 billion in frozen Russian asset funding as well
Putin, has a a short window...
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Senate just passed the ukraine aid bill
President Biden will sign it tomorrow
Ukraine is NOW getting EVERYTHING they wanted, F-16s and long range Rockets, and Patriots
and will also get about an additional 8 billion in frozen Russian asset funding as well
Putin, has a a short window...
That's the biggest fear that the Russians will attack before they manage to get the gear to the frontline:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy-preparing-major-russian-spring-offensive/
For sound reason there has been a lot of talk in Europe of getting Ukraine the weapons it needs, Germany giving so much, other countries doing the same, the Czech initiative to buy shells for Ukraine with many countries signing up to it. But it's either just all talk or incredibly painfully slow. It's apparent from reports such as this and elsewhere that nothing of note is getting to the front.That I find incredibly poor that European Nations just seem incapable of realising that they need to get some gear to Ukrainian front and very fast now or Ukraine could succumb to a Russian Offensive should they launch one in the next few weeks.
I just find it incredible since western nations have much weapons in their arsenal many coming towards being replaced by newer upgrades anyway or are just sat there. The UK has about 200 Challenger 2 tanks due to be replaced by Challenger 3 tanks in the coming months/years but gives Ukraine only 14. The UK has much Artillery and assault rifles and munitions but gives very little of that. Much again would never really be used and would just be sat there until it is scrapped at some point anyway. Yesterday Sunak said that he would be giving Ukraine £500 million worth in Ukrainian aid right away but I am not so sure if it will get there. Lots of assurances from European nations but very little action it seems. My guess is that they are all being Royal Standbacks waiting for the US to dig into its pocket first and probably won't supply much if anything at all.
Meanwhile every day the Russians don't launch a major offensive on the Ukrainian lines buys them time to prepare better and hope that weapons will arrive soon, but if their arsenal runs too low they are going to be too badly exposed whatever the defenses.
Getting new recruits to the front quickly is also needed. I am not so sure that losing the Conscription age from 27 to 25 will gain that many more recruits, at least not for long. That might soon have to be lowered to 23 or even 21 in order to get enough men there. That I think they would be better off doing sooner rather than later. Ukrainians on the front line are heavily outnumbered by the Russians and although often better trained too many Russian soldiers threaten to overwhelm the Ukrainian lines. So I think to stand much chance against a major Russian offensive Ukraine needs to quickly rush as many men to the front as possible.
I fear that not enough is being done and it is all potentially coming too late. The US seems to be serious at least now that the aid package has finally passed but time is ticking. I just hope that the Russians don't launch their offensive soon and the military aid gets to the front in time. At the moment though I still read either way that Ukrainian troop numbers are too few and need bolstering significantly.
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Ukraine is NOW getting EVERYTHING they wanted, F-16s and long range Rockets, and Patriots
Good news, yet I don’t believe we are getting as many of those as we really need to win the war. Most likely, we’ll get a score of F-16, a couple of Patriots and perpaps a hundred ATACAMS. And I really hope they will not be castrated before handed over to us. Like having the state-of-art equipment removed and replaced with something obsolete, range cut, etc. Remember how we got as many as 31 Abrams last year? While we needed at least 500 to make a difference. And without air cover they turned almost useless anyway.
So I am sure we are NOT getting everything we wanted. Just a fraction thereof. I have learned to never underestimate the hypocricy of the American politicum since 2014.
And it is easy to prove. If we indeed get everything we want, the war will be over by the fall.
Where I really pin my hopes is China. That is, if the USA really 'persuade' them to stop supporting Muscovy. Then there is a very big probability that the Nazis withdraw by the New Year.
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'moy brat'
Ukraine has Yanukovych, and Medvedchuk and plenty more...
The USA has 'Moscow Marjorie' and the rest of the Pro-Russian Republican Caucus...
not much different in terms of the their purpose or results...
they are worse than hypocrites, they are phuquing filthy TRAITORS who serve Putin
Yes, longer range racketa (long range ATACMS were ALREADY delivered to Ukraine and used recently in Zhankoi, you just didn't hear about it until now...)
congress will very likely have a democratic majority after the next election
and this political sabotage will not happen after that...
half the money Ukraine gets from the IMF also comes from the USA
and America will soon be forwarding sanctioned Russian money to Ukraine as well
yes, I watch Ukrainian TV on YouTube to...
The only thing Russians and Ukrainians BOTH agree on, is both sides blame America for everything that's going wrong in the war. and NOT somebody in Russia or Ukraine...
since Russia blames the US more than Ukraine does, then I guess we're doin' OK!!
however, everyone always has to learn to fight with the Army they have, and not with the army they wish you had
not sure when this new aid will run out...
but before the end of the year, Ukraine will need another 'fix....
Putin's ever dwindling supply of weapons made during the CCCP period,
won't lead him to end the war
if he did did, he'd get Prigozhined by some bizznessman/mafia malchick
instead, when Phutin gets down to his last pooshka
he will decide, which WMD to use in Ukraine and where
because he has no other path
and Putin always makes the dumbest moves, cuz his advisors are afraid to tell him 'things' he doesn't want to hear
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not sure when this new aid will run out...
but before the end of the year, Ukraine will need another 'fix....
Putin's ever dwindling supply of weapons made during the CCCP period,
won't lead him to end the war
if he did did, he'd get Prigozhined by some bizznessman/mafia malchick
instead, when Phutin gets down to his last pooshka
he will decide, which WMD to use in Ukraine and where
because he has no other path
and Putin always makes the dumbest moves, cuz his advisors are afraid to tell him 'things' he doesn't want to hear
So unless fate intervenes to decide otherwise then Ukraine looks likely to lose the war due to Russia resorting to WMD. The West gets the bonus of knowing that Putler won't have much if an Army left to go on the rampage with elsewhere as he's Artillery will be non existent with which is normally used to pummel enemies into submission with his bully boy tactics. Plus Russia will be too skint and suffering economic woes to start up much elsewhere, possibly just Moldova but that may get about it at a stretch.
So Russia will have Ukraine and have to sort out the situation there. Many Ukrainians own property there, foreigners also, will they still do so after a Russian victory? Many Ukrainians have fled abroad and many maybe most won't return home under a country ruled by a foreign dictator so I would assume they will end up living and becoming residents/citizens in the country that they sought refuge in. Their refugee country becoming their permanent country of abode for possibly the rest of their lives, for generations even. So possibly generations of Ukrainians in exiled communities abroad, throughout Europe, the US, etc. Communities of self exiled Russians too in slightly fewer numbers too I would guess who have fled from Russia since the start of the war.
Events though often repeat themselves and I wonder if there is a chance that in the future once Putler has passed on/no longer leader that Russia & Ukraine will open up again to these once exiled communities and they'll have access again to their former homeland. Even possibly Ukraine breaking away once again from Russia if the economic woes get too bad for Russia to hold onto Ukraine.
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Ukraine is not going to lose the war.
Not in the sense that most all of Ukraine will be occupied by Russian military.
Occupation of enemy territory is a very costly undertaking, and Ukrainians will never stop fighting a guerilla war if necessary.
But to the other points . . . Russia is not going to run out of any military equipment.
They have already geared up to a full war time economy to mass produce all they need and will continue to get from China, N. Korea, Iran and others.
The real problem for Putin and his like minded successors will be (if the Russian people ever wake up) when people get tired of not having the upscale and even basic consumer goods they have become used to because such are not being produced and no money to import or restrictions on importing.
Russians by nature and history like to suffer.
But how hard and long they will be willing to suffer is another question.
Some real progress in this direction would be if western countries expell ALL Russians . . . students, business persons, retirees, etc.
Most all Russians support Putin . . . but still they want their children to be educated abroad . . . and probably stay abroad.
They are willing and eager to suffer . . . but don't neccessarily want their children to.
Remember how there used to be a wholesale event of pregnant Russian women flying to Florida and elsewhere to give birth to attain US citizenship for their children ?
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Over breakfast this morning wife was telling me another interesting tidbit.
Russia's Black Sea fleet was built up as a Turkish deterrent.
With Ukraine having fairly good success at destroying parts of the Russian fleet . . . .
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The West and Ukraine, better have a plan ready for when Putin switches to WMDs
in case, saying "DON'T" turns out to be an inadequate response...
Putina has millions of Ukrainian hostages to 'bargain' with against any direct Western military response to the Russian military using WMDs on Ukraine
what then???
The Mighty Russian Industrial Machine is a freakin joke, it's a Potempkin Zavod
there's no way it can outproduce it's losses even with buying Crap from Iran and North Korea...and secretly shipping components from the USA w/ Putin's daughter
Putina was trying to buy time, until Trump 'won' the election....
but now even HE sees 'the handwriting' on the wall
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Ukraine is not going to lose the war.
Not in the sense that most all of Ukraine will be occupied by Russian military.
Occupation of enemy territory is a very costly undertaking, and Ukrainians will never stop fighting a guerilla war if necessary.
But isn't Russia's tactic just to move the population elsewhere, to Siberia, that's what Stalin did and Putler has so far seemingly done the same with the areas he has taken, Mariupol, etc. Russians buy in to good areas over looking the sea or are given it if they are soldiers or officers based in the area. Many Ukrainians taken and shipped off to other parts of Russia particularly if they are seen are trouble making or not in support enough of the Russian regime.
I'm not saying that Russia will move all Ukrainians out of Ukraine but perhaps many, especially those not so accepting of Russification, of using the Russian language, etc. Presumably teaching of and use of the Ukrainian language will become banned possibly English also I would assume.
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I still strongly believe that the west, and particularly USA no matter who is president, will not let Russia win.
The longer run consequences of such will just be unthinkable.
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Mihai Popsoi, Moldova’s 37-year-old newly minted top diplomat, was in Washington to remind Biden administration officials and lawmakers that the war in Ukraine is not just about Ukraine. Since Russia’s full-scale invasion of its neighbor two years ago, the 3 million residents of Moldova have faced unprecedented instability and anxiety. Putin is threatening Moldova’s security, squeezing its economy and undermining its democracy, efforts that are all aimed at replacing its pro-Western leadership with a new government bought and paid for by the Kremlin.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/25/moldova-russian-politics-ukraine-invasion-europe/
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if Putina wins in Ukraine....
Ukrainians will still end up fighting...
but FOR Putin, instead of against him!
in Moldavanka and Georgia and the 'stans...
and AFTER uKRAINE, THE WARS OF RE-CONQUEST WILL BE FOUGHT primarily with Ukrainian Janissaries,
and the enemy will be Drone-Bombing Ukraine, isteada Russia....
so the cost that RUSSIANS pay for continuing the wars of re-conquest will be less
but the cost that Ukrainians pay will be much more than what they're paying even now
the costs get transferred to Ukraine, but the profits ALL go to Russians!!!
and this is the primary purpose of this expansion policy
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Mihai Popsoi, Moldova’s 37-year-old newly minted top diplomat, was in Washington to remind Biden administration officials and lawmakers that the war in Ukraine is not just about Ukraine. Since Russia’s full-scale invasion of its neighbor two years ago, the 3 million residents of Moldova have faced unprecedented instability and anxiety. Putin is threatening Moldova’s security, squeezing its economy and undermining its democracy, efforts that are all aimed at replacing its pro-Western leadership with a new government bought and paid for by the Kremlin.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/25/moldova-russian-politics-ukraine-invasion-europe/
I think for sure that Moldova as a small country bordering Ukraine could be a viable follow up target for Russia. The Transnistria region and Russian population gives it the excuse. Beefarmer believes that there is geographical strategic importance for Ukraine to gain Moldova that it would make it's borders easier to defend. I think it is potentially weak enough for Russia to follow up and take and it is still not a part of NATO or the EU.
Finland & Sweden I am sure are too strong for Russia to want to try and are a part of NATO/EU. Finland hasn't been a part of Ruddy for a very long time so I don't think Russia is that concerned with Finland. Georgia is a possibility but well away from Europe behind Russian lines so I don't think Russia is too concerned, it has a roughly pro Kremlin party in control there so I don't think Russia will get rushing there in haste, it's more the European borders it seems concerned about. The Stand too I think it is not too bothered about as it can influence matters there from afar.
So you have a relationship interest in Moldova Grumpy? It would be interesting to hear as so many threads here about Ukrainian & Russian relationships. How about starting a thread on it?
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if Putina wins in Ukraine....
Ukrainians will still end up fighting...
but FOR Putin, instead of against him!
in Moldavanka and Georgia and the 'stans...
and whatever former FSU member Putin's fighting with his Ukrainian Janissaries, will THEN be Drone-Bombing Ukraine, isteada Russia....
so the cost that RUSSIANS pay for continuing the war, will be less
but the cost that Ukrainians pay will be even more
the costs get transferred to Ukraine, but the profits ALL go to Russians!!!
I'm now considering that Putin will use Novichok next year...
Why?
Ukraine's forces are 'static' and partially blocked by mines, limiting movement
perfect Novichok targets
the West or Ukraine has no chemical stockpile to counter with
whatever military response West/Ukraine gives will be easily countered by 'Novichoking' a Ukrainian city in response
and saying, "next time, we'll do TWO CITIES"
so there won't be a 'next time'
and that's it, that's how Ukraine loses the war....
cuz of a florinated organo-phosphate compound invented in Moscva
lesson learned: If yur a dumb Phuque, it's best to be a dumb Phuque with the ability to produce a lotta methyl-iso-cyanate to turn into Novichok-A236, then just a 'simple' dumb Phuque with a buncha starry grozny pooshki which is TOTALLY ne kruto!!!
SLOVO!!
Russian Cruise Missile Cruisers are movin into the Eastern Med, to Launch at Odesa
will the US Navy try to shoot them down like they did with the ones pointed at Israel
we'll see...
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if Putina wins in Ukraine....
Ukrainians will still end up fighting...
but FOR Putin, instead of against him!
in Moldavanka and Georgia and the 'stans...
and whatever former FSU member Putin's fighting with his Ukrainian Janissaries, will THEN be Drone-Bombing Ukraine, isteada Russia....
so the cost that RUSSIANS pay for continuing the war, will be less
but the cost that Ukrainians pay will be even more
the costs get transferred to Ukraine, but the profits ALL go to Russians!!!
I'm now considering that Putin will use Novichok next year...
Why?
Ukraine's forces are 'static' and partially blocked by mines, limiting movement
perfect Novichok targets
the West or Ukraine has no chemical stockpile to counter with
whatever military response West/Ukraine gives will be easily countered by 'Novichoking' a Ukrainian city in response
and saying, "next time, we'll do TWO CITIES"
so there won't be a 'next time'
and that's it, that's how Ukraine loses the war....
cuz of a florinated organo-phosphate compound invented in Moscva
lesson learned: If yur a dumb Phuque, it's best to be a dumb Phuque with the ability to produce a lotta methyl-iso-cyanate to turn into Novichok-A236, then just a 'simple' dumb Phuque with a buncha starry grozny pooshki which is TOTALLY ne kruto!!!
SLOVO!!
Russian Cruise Missile Cruisers are movin into the Eastern Med, to Launch at Odesa
will the US Navy try to shoot them down like they did with the ones pointed at Israel
we'll see...
Good reasoning Krim, what do you reckon will happen to the civilian population in Ukraine, the Women & children, a lot of people to all move to Siberia. Do you think the Russians will leave a lot of them in place so long as they don't cause trouble and let them keep their homes?
What do you think will become of Rancho el Krim?
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ahhh, the joyous tools of Russian oppression
Tried-and-True methods of ethnic cleansing, to get out those stubborn Ukrainian stains try Novo Pootin Pooska Poley for sale at Trump Mucovy Mall
1. transport whole villages on the Gulag-Bahn Rail Lines to Siber - Choot! Choot!
2. Prison Factories
3. Compulsory membership in a Holodomor Re-enactment Society
4. Target practice!!!
5. Mine clearing!!
but NO GAYZ!!!!
GAYZ ain't allowed in Russia!!!!
ya wanna be GAY go live in decadent France or Amerika!!!
Rancho Del Krim has fallen on hard times, no men left in the village, they all Mobiks, just wimmin left....
explosions heard all 'round at least once per week
drone parts landed in village
Atesh Partisans derailed a train nearby
if Russians ever found all the equipment I buried, and figured out what I had used it for, they'd have a BOLSHOI FREAK-OUT!!!!
and the hunter would be hunted
but now I is in the USA... and they can kiss my bela jhoppa!
haha, I joke...I joke...I kid...I kid...
I am just harmless 'ole Geezer, haha
can I haz cheeseburger?
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Over breakfast this morning wife was telling me another interesting tidbit.
Russia's Black Sea fleet was built up as a Turkish deterrent.
With Ukraine having fairly good success at destroying parts of the Russian fleet . . . .
Over the centuries, Russia has been invaded a number of times through the Bessarabian Gap in Moldova and Romania, and via the Crimean peninsula.
Russia has no way to protect against an invasion by Turkey if they are unable to take control of the Bessarabian Gap. And to do that, Russia needs to conquer Ukraine, Moldova, and part of Romania. (a NATO country) If they are able to secure the Bessarabian Gap to protect against Turkey...it involves a war against NATO in Romania. But if they don't, they can't defend themself without using nukes.
But Russia also needs to secure the Polish Gap, because they have been invaded through there too. Once again, that means going to war with NATO.
And Russia needs to secure the Baltic countries, to protect against invasion there. That's how Sweden has invaded Russia before. Once again, that involves going to war with NATO.
If Ukraine falls, nukes are going to fly. It's the only way Russia stands a chance in a war against NATO.
But if Ukraine doesn't fall, Russia will keep attacking Ukraine until it can't, because securing the Bessarabian Gap is an existential threat for Russia.
If Ukraine beats Russia, the only way Ukraine can prevent Russia from attacking again and again is for Ukraine to invade Russia and take control of Belgorod and Rostov on Don, since those are the logistical hubs Russia uses. But if Ukraine takes Belgorod and Rostov, that's an invasion of Mother Russia, and Russia has said that if that happens, nukes will fly.
The best scenario for NATO is to Russia to never get out of Ukraine...just a quagmire where neither side can win. Good for NATO...but extremely bad for Ukraine. But so far, it appears that Ukraine is willing to fight to the last man to make sure Russia doesn't go head to head with NATO and have nukes start flying.
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please stop quoting Peter Zeihan here...
his map is absolutely NOT the territory and is rubbish...his map will just get ya lost
the person to have listened to...was Prighozhin
right before Putin murdered him, he said, that the primary reson for the war, was to benefit about 200 oligarchs, google is yur droog
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Moldova is next in line after Ukraine, but it's army is still woefully too small, as this article states less than 10,000 soldiers:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/25/moldova-russian-politics-ukraine-invasion-europe/
We need to start arming Moldova now and Moldova getting as many of its men as possible into it's army in preparation for next year.
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Good exchange rate on the Ukrainian Hrivna at the moment currently 50 Hrivna to the British Pound.
http://www.google.com/search?q=gbp+to+uah&oq=gbp+to+UAH
Looks as the Ukrainian economy weakens there could be good bargains to be had. For how long that will go on for who knows?
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Those Russian MFers!
They claim to be fighting "Ukrainian Faschista" in Odesa of all places, which ain't exactly known for it's "Carpathian Attitudes"....
I mean, don't get me wrong, "Wild Dances" was very popular in Odesa 'back in the day and also "I dance with the wolves..."
but firing an Iskander Cluster Bomb at a freakin historic Law School
and kill middle aged women out shopping with their dawg...
and call this an "Anti-Fascist" Operation
is beyond phuqued-up
like blaming the people who warned ya about Crocus City for Crocus City
I am descended from Odesa Yevray....who fled the pogrom to Amerika
and I say "PHUQUE YOU PUTIN"
RESISTANCE IS NOT FUTILE!!!!!
But now I must reveal to you folks here
that by the pricking of my thumb
I am gonna warn ya of things to come
In a nameless Moscva suburb near an old military airport
is a special unit of the GRU that does 'computer simulations' for the military
they ended up doing non-linear analysis of banking and financial systems
and they had a DIRECT LINE TO PUTIN, who considers them damn near infallible, the "Quants"
they're the ones who told Putin about Silicon Valley Bank who then told Peter Thiel, who then started a bank run leading to it's collapse and bailout!!
this same group is predicting that 2025 is the last year of US support for Ukraine, and after that spending limits will NOT ALLOW any further support...
Russia has already gamed this out with different competing teams
as long as Democrats win in Nov, Ukraine will have support through 2025
but after that spending limits and rising interest on the debt
will mean that after about 10 years from now, it's impossible for the USA to EVER have an increase in GDP, cuz interest on the Federal Deficit is gonna be almost 4% 10 yr from now
and spending 70-80 billion USD/yr on Ukraine just ain't very likely
and if US Aid is reduced, you know that after a short while the EU will follow...
so, according to this gameplan, whoever can last the longest is the winner
Ukraine has at worst case, 1 more year of support, and at best case 2 more....
after that, the kill ratio will shift more to Russia's favor, especially as Russian military industry is mobilized, which it partially is...
sometime by the End of June, Russia will have passed the 500,000 casualty mark
Ukraine has to gamble on it's future support
if Russia can afford to pay the bill on 1-2 more years of this trench warfare with drones without having to give up much territory to Ukraine
because the forces are balanced that way
what happens to this balance
if Ukraine loses it's Western Sponsors due to a global Recession/Depression
which doesn't effect Russia, cuz they're decoupled from the West's economy
these Russki Quant guys code in a really funny old fashioned style, it cracks me up, their documentation is so formal...
Russian Fortran IV!!!!LOL!!!!
I miss all that old Soviet Electrnics
like The Minsk Radio's
Ivan, did you hear that the American that used to work here, shot Kennedy?
look at Oswald's picture in Minsk.....
that look...
he KNEW...
IN MINSK!!
malenky kartoshkie compared to today
what October Surprize will Putin gift us???
what smiling figure who alters the future???
one thing fer sure, good buddy, we ain't gonna have long to wait!!!!
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For the West I think their main aim is to bust up the Russian economy and run down Russian Armaments. By next year all the vast stockpile of Armaments the Soviets has built up will be gone, anything new Russia added or bought in will be gone too. Sure Russia may use Novichok, Neutron Bombs, etc to win the war but it will still be left with very little Armaments or Economy in any good shape.
If Ukraine was saved that would be a bonus for the West but the main deal I believe is leading Russia to a state where it has used up most of its Armaments and finance and is teetering on the edge of collapse.
I have an idea of what Russia might do but it may be too little too late for itself.
The Russian economy is already not in great shape, inflation & interest rates up a lot, currency reserves going down, tax revenue down, and industrial output down. I am already thinking that the writing is potentially already on the wall for Russia long term, even if the Russian economy was not pushed to the brink next year the downward spiral might already be too much for it to avoid sinking into economic devastation long term.
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Russia's Oligarchs still very wealthy and moving their vast fortunes around despite western sanctions. Cyprus has been key to that laundering much of the Russian Oligarchs wealth under the radar with not much attention in the mainstream media:
http://www.icij.org/investigations/cyprus-confidential/cyprus-russia-eu-secrecy-tax-haven/
Of recent a lot of Russians have moved to Northern Cyprus (Turkish Controlled) from Southern Cyprus (Greek Controlled) to invest there piling big money into large construction developments:
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/15/there-are-no-questions-asked-how-russian-money-is-fuelling-a-building-boom-in-northern-cyprus
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this struggle in Ukraine has centuries of inertia behind it
the tide of war will ebb and flow in Ukraine like the ocean's tide
but this struggle like the earth itself, abideth forever...
after next year, budget ceiling caps will put an end to the USA's funding of Ukraine
this marks the beginning of Ukraine's fall...
afterwards, Ukrainian soldiers are forced to fight in Moldova and Georgia
for the Russian Kleptocracy's Merger and Acquistions Department
and then Moldovans and Georgians will go work on acqusitions in the 'stans
when the debt bombs EXPLODE in the 2030s they will do more damage than nuclear ones
and everyone reading this is gonna be PHUQUED no matter where or how you live
it's an historic inflection point, like the crash of '29 and the depression that followed it, and the wars that followed that
and it is going to happen with 100% certainty
too bad we were all so focused on Gay Cowboys to deal with this....
but good magicians on conservative media always know how to redirect yur attention
so ya don't see "their trick" up their sleeve
in reality...
the 2024 election is NOT about Biden vrs Trump
it's about are we going with the Demcrat's plan of raising taxes on the richest to offset the rising debt
or the republican's plan of cutting social security and medicare for the poor to offset the debt
either plan, is not a permanent solution to the problem
but only extends the inevidible outcome by a few more years
obviously, you can't sell the Republican plan to poor folks
so you deceive them with the meanace of gay cowboys and diversity and of course, RELIGION!!!!! especially Religion, like Trump cluthching a Bible he's tryin to sell ya
and because Trump voters are dumb phuques, they believe all the BS they're being spoon fed on conservative media
and act against their own economic interests, and that's the primary purpose of oligarch owned media like Fox News, NY Post, WSJ, OAN, etc
to con the poorly educated, to act in the interests of the oligarchy
c'mon all ya big strong manly Trump Voters
if ya'll don't like what I write here, then convince me, that I'm wrong....
let's see how mighty yur pen is compared to mine
en garde!
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If you ever wondered if the current generation of US politicians would have stopped Hitler and Hirahito,
you already know the answer, and why WAR is gonna be inevidible in the future with the Russia-China-Iran Axis
Putin has done the preliminary groundwork for using GAZ in Ukraine, cloropicrin has already been used thousands of times
the next step, is to create an industrial "chemical" flase flag event and blame it on Ukraine
estwhile, a clandestine Novichok factory has been setup in Donestsk, an exact copy of the one in Syria, made by the same chellovik
this will be the origin of Novichok-A236 and NOT Russia.....
Donetsk "Rebels" will be the ones to initially deploy small amounts of Novichok...
and Russian MOD will then escalate it to full use by the MOD forces, Ukraine has no defense or counter-force to it
a Novichok BlitzKrieg would be devastating to Ukraine
there's nothing the West can do to deter Russia from CBW
because it doesn't have the means to.....
and after next year, starting in 2026. the West will not even have the means to fund Ukraine at it's current level....
so yes apparently...
the capitalists WILL all hang themselves with the orange rope Putin sold them for a really good price....
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If you ever wondered if the current generation of US politicians would have stopped Hitler and Hirahito,
you already know the answer, and why WAR is gonna be inevidible in the future with the Russia-China-Iran Axis
Putin has done the preliminary groundwork for using GAZ in Ukraine, cloropicrin has already been used thousands of times
the next step, is to create an industrial "chemical" flase flag event and blame it on Ukraine
estwhile, a clandestine Novichok factory has been setup in Donestsk, an exact copy of the one in Syria, made by the same chellovik
this will be the origin of Novichok-A236 and NOT Russia.....
Donetsk "Rebels" will be the ones to initially deploy small amounts of Novichok...
and Russian MOD will then escalate it to full use by the MOD forces, Ukraine has no defense or counter-force to it
a Novichok BlitzKrieg would be devastating to Ukraine
there's nothing the West can do to deter Russia from CBW
because it doesn't have the means to.....
and after next year, starting in 2026. the West will not even have the means to fund Ukraine at it's current level....
so yes apparently...
the capitalists WILL all hang themselves with the orange rope Putin sold them for a really good price....
Can Russia's Armaments and Money last that long though? It looks like at the moment Russia will be low or out of both by this time next year if not before. I would assume that Putler will use WMD or biochemical weapons before then so he has forces to occupy Ukraine and go on to Moldova, etc.
As this article shows towards the bottom, other than the size of Russia's forces their quality tends to be worse than it was at the start of the war as they have lost many of their actual soldiers. Today's surprise attack on Kharkiv was repulsed:
http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6pyv8q94g1o
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it's a question of how each side is gonna try to improve it's 'condition' to strengthen it's future negotiating position
Russia has several years worth of old junk soviet military equipment still in storage and gazillions of unemployed gopnicks sittin in their villages drinkin vodka...
all Russia's gotta do, is print rubles, and use the rubles to pay soldiers/workers
so really all Russia needs is a buncha big ruble printing presses to continue the war
OTOH, the West's economy is gonna take a big 'hit' in 2026 due to high debt and high interest and interest rates
cuz of the rising debt, budget spending caps have been set
budget caps are gonna make it IMPOSSIBLE for the USA to support the Ukraine war in 2026 and thereafter
This shifts the BALALNCE to RUSSIA's FAVOR!!!
but...
it's a VERY WEAK Russia....
best equipment/soldiers are already lost....
now they have a VERY mediocre military force
that could NEVER protect Russia from any actual threat
and as long as the West fully supports Ukraine financially/militarily Russia's military is also incapable of further major seizures of Ukrainian territory...
OTOH, if that support should stop in 2026, while the Western economies are facing 'uncertainty' due to a deep recession...
all this instability and chaos is the perfect time for Pooty Poot to make 'a move'
if I were him, I'd go with Novichok first, in mid summer....
if there is ANY DIRECT Western Military response to the use of Novichok by the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) on it's own territory
then the DPR will deploy Novichok directly against a large Western Ukrainian City in retaliation
and threaten to do so with all future attacks
then, and ONLY THEN should the Russian Ministry of Defense use WMDs AFTER THAT!!!!!
Nouvelle Ypres
100 TOS-1 launchers + support equipment + chemical trained troops/equipment
truckloads of unfilled shells and sealed cylinders of unmixed binary Novichok and field shell fillin equipment
all of these firing in unison would kill 50% of unprotected people (no mask, no anti-dote) within 200 sq km
then drive one hour to new new firing position, reload...and FIRE!!!!
within 48 hrs Ukraine's whole Eastern Defense would be GONE!!!
and then Russian tanks/infantry push in
and they use the local civilians for 'mine clearing' by havin em march out in front of their soldiers!!!!
also, the Russians use the civilians as human shields, so the enemy can't fire long range rockets at Russian troops without killin Ukrainian civilians as well!!!!
THIS is Russia's version of "IRON DOME"!!!!!
Da! We build Army Command Center inside Elementary School!!!! it give 100% protection!!!!
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Well the Russians I'm guessing will be getting down to their worst stock of Armaments now as usually the best stuff is used first. Probably they will be out with their angle grinders, grinding off all that rust on their old tanks lol. This article tells us that Russia is rounding up Ukrainian men in the occupied territories more than ever to be sent to the front:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/12/desperate-putin-is-forcing-ukrainians-to-fight-for-him/
Apparently Ukraine are grabbing all the men on their side that they can to counter also. At the end of all of this I can't see their being many men left around. You're missing out on a big one here Beefarmer ;)
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in reality...
there is NO FUTURE for ya'll,
cuz yur future has ALREADY been robbed from you
you just don't know about it yet, cuz the robbers are still hiding their theft
ergo, forget about future prospects of Pooty-tang in Ukraine, and focus more on upcoming $100 cheeseburgers at McDonald's with $20 bag of fries....
and ignore all the beggars in the streets
for yur approaching future
you will all be better served by knowing the best places to collect aluminum cans and how to disconnect a catalytic converter and sell it
than by knowing how to get the best discounted air tickets
when the debt bombs explode, ain't none of ya'll gonna be flyin anywhere...
airlines??? most will be outta biziness....
doncha all see what's coming up on the horizon?
eat...drink...and be merry....
for tomorrow ya'll are gonna be very poor and yur gonna wonder where all yur money went to....
hint: it all went to a small group of people who will be living in massive underground bunker mansions with their staff
Postscript
Those who proclaim with their words, but deny with their actions
is what an unbelieving world finds unbelievable....
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LOL!! Putin sacked Shoigu today as Minister Of Defense and replaced him by an Economist!!!
I'd consider that an indication of the future status of the war....
that it's gonna go into "overtime innings' while they build a NEW STADIUM!!!
if Trump loses the election...
Putin will try to push for a truce....
to give him time to re-arm and re-equip Russia, after a PURGE of the useless Russian kleptocracy....
and create a "new and improved" oligarchy recruited EXCLUSIVELY from the "Officer Class" to manage assets taken from old oligarchs who sent their money and kids all to the West (betryal)
it's kinda like WWI and WWII
Germany spent 20 years after WWI rearming for the next 'go-round'
After Russia pauses the war, 100% of Russia's energy goes into re-armament for the next big "special military operation" which is the same as the last one
there will be so many guns, that the guns will have guns, and even THOSE guns will have even smaller guns on down to individual gun atoms
the whole world will be outgunned by Russia, even AMERICA - hard to believe but true!!!!
Russians will also start shooting each other more frequently - also like America - so our prayers should go out to them as well!!!!
and when Russia resumes the fight, there's gonna be a global depression goin on (that's how ya know they're comin)
and Russian trolls, will be like "how dare congress spend one penny on Ukraine when poor Americans are going hungry"
and so forth and so on....
It's the end of the World as we know it
and it's coming
how do I know?
cuz the Russians are already workin on it (among other things)
and sheet's gonna start happening later this year and intensify....
Russians would LOVE to do sabotage in the USA like they've done in Europa
but they don't have the assets here like they used to....
and the GRU/FSB just isn't up to it
though if I were them, I'd take down the "CUBE" at Fort Meade, and see what that does to the USA's C3
but I guess Russians would need help even doing that!!!!
the best the FSB/GRU ever came up with was a couple of moles in the USA Intelligence Community, pretty lame!!!!
no sabots at all....or at least...not yet....
what does Putin even pay them for?????
they're less than useless, do they even know how to fight?
no wonder he's pissed at everyone
I'd have wrecked the NSA and every critical American Arms factory....
Russians are incompetant at everything they do, unless they have foreign managers
the absolute SMART thing for Putin to do is to learn Spanish and make a deal with Los Cártel de Jalisco Nueva Generación
to divide the southwest drug territory and provide heavy firepower, financial and other support to them
then use their hit squads to do your wetwork without FSB/GRU phuque-ups like Salisbury, fer gawd's sake....
you could lay waste to America's missile factories by just payin Mexicans to do it (like I do for lawn services)
and even take part of the USA drug trade for revenue, the FSB already knows how to do THAT!!!!
yeah, I know the Russian mafiya's rules about "non-Russians"
but they're in bad need of some new blood, and the times they are a changin
why not Los Latinos DeLa Rus
I kinda like the ring to that
anyway, thanks for listening....
I sure do miss Russia this time of year
I find it distressing to live in the USA now
if I were in Russia, I'd be in my natural element....
oh well, yalky palky
in the end, it's not really even gonna matter
I like cookies!!
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Dear Mr Putin,
a goldfish CAN kill a gorilla. however, it require a substantial element of surprise....
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LOL!! Putin sacked Shoigu today as Minister Of Defense and replaced him by an Economist!!!
I'd consider that an indication of the future status of the war....
that it's gonna go into "overtime innings' while they build a NEW STADIUM!!!
if Trump loses the election...
Putin will try to push for a truce....
to give him time to re-arm and re-equip Russia, after a PURGE of the useless Russian kleptocracy....
and create a "new and improved" oligarchy recruited EXCLUSIVELY from the "Officer Class" to manage assets taken from old oligarchs who sent their money and kids all to the West (betryal)
it's kinda like WWI and WWII
Germany spent 20 years after WWI rearming for the next 'go-round'
After Russia pauses the war, 100% of Russia's energy goes into re-armament for the next big "special military operation" which is the same as the last one
there will be so many guns, that the guns will have guns, and even THOSE guns will have even smaller guns on down to individual gun atoms
the whole world will be outgunned by Russia, even AMERICA - hard to believe but true!!!!
Russians will also start shooting each other more frequently - also like America - so our prayers should go out to them as well!!!!
and when Russia resumes the fight, there's gonna be a global depression goin on (that's how ya know they're comin)
and Russian trolls, will be like "how dare congress spend one penny on Ukraine when poor Americans are going hungry"
and so forth and so on....
It's the end of the World as we know it
and it's coming
how do I know?
cuz the Russians are already workin on it (among other things)
and sheet's gonna start happening later this year and intensify....
Russians would LOVE to do sabotage in the USA like they've done in Europa
but they don't have the assets here like they used to....
and the GRU/FSB just isn't up to it
though if I were them, I'd take down the "CUBE" at Fort Meade, and see what that does to the USA's C3
but I guess Russians would need help even doing that!!!!
the best the FSB/GRU ever came up with was a couple of moles in the USA Intelligence Community, pretty lame!!!!
no sabots at all....or at least...not yet....
what does Putin even pay them for?????
they're less than useless, do they even know how to fight?
no wonder he's pissed at everyone
I'd have wrecked the NSA and every critical American Arms factory....
Russians are incompetant at everything they do, unless they have foreign managers
the absolute SMART thing for Putin to do is to learn Spanish and make a deal with Los Cártel de Jalisco Nueva Generación
to divide the southwest drug territory and provide heavy firepower, financial and other support to them
then use their hit squads to do your wetwork without FSB/GRU phuque-ups like Salisbury, fer gawd's sake....
you could lay waste to America's missile factories by just payin Mexicans to do it (like I do for lawn services)
and even take part of the USA drug trade for revenue, the FSB already knows how to do THAT!!!!
yeah, I know the Russian mafiya's rules about "non-Russians"
but they're in bad need of some new blood, and the times they are a changin
why not Los Latinos DeLa Rus
I kinda like the ring to that
anyway, thanks for listening....
I sure do miss Russia this time of year
I find it distressing to live in the USA now
if I were in Russia, I'd be in my natural element....
oh well, yalky palky
in the end, it's not really even gonna matter
I like cookies!!
Wouldn't Russia be too broke with it's economy it too bad a state to rearm significantly?
Modern weapons cost a lot of money and the more better quality the higher the cost usually. Russia has essentially mostly been fielding the old Soviet Army that unfortunately for them is being fielded well past it's sell by date. Apparently Russia at present doesn't have the capability to recreate such Armaments as the Soviets did moreso to modern standards and to similar volume. Hence Russia is apparently using the old Soviet Army, it's old tanks, artillery, etc to have a last swipe at getting back the resources it needs to recreate a military as powerful as the Soviet Union had. It looks like Russia is have one desperate go at it now with it's current offensive starting in Kharkiv. I'm guessing it will continue into the Summer, but potentially that may be the most Russia can do. If Ukraine can hold on to the Winter then potentially Russia's last reserves of the old Soviet stuff that is any decent may be used up. That just leaves the old crap of rusted Soviet WWII memorabilia to field along with trying to get stuff to work that long since hasn't.
In WWI Russia lasted about 3-4 years before it could take no more although it did fight a civil war after that. In WWII they just about went the distance but again about 4 years. My guessing is that Russia has only got so much left in the tank before it gets exhausted and it becomes too much. We're in the third year of war now so perhaps at most Russia may only have another year left in it before it's totally all out and only had nukes, biochem, etc to turn too.
I kind of feel bad for you Krim being shut out of Russia, I think you're not one for sitting around and can understand the boredom getting to you. Don't worry I'm not about to suggest the Baltics as an alternative ;D What about Cyprus though, plenty of Russians there and probably stuff going down? I remember when I was clothes shopping with Kherson girl and I was in one store waiting for her to try a dress on (As you likely know they have loads of modern out of town shopping centres in southern Cyprus) anyway this tall young I think Greek girl was there also trying on the same dress, and wow! she had quite a figure really impressed me and her family, father, etc stood next to me. I'm guessing a good time can be had over there :) Other than that how about Ukraine? It's war time but I'm sure plenty of stuff is happening over there to take the interest of a man like yourself. You might even be able to get in with the top tier hierarchy crowd in power over there - lots of opportunities - or whatever suits?
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if I'm smart...
I'll learn to live a quiet life...
but nobody's gonna be able to ignore the coming storms on the horizon
Trench,
you should tell 'yur woman'
the ONLY way to overcome fear is to confront it and not run away from it
if you run away, yur still afraid
but if you stand-up, yur not afraid any more...
this is the point I try to make to you
if you DON'T ALWAYS force yurself ABOVE yur limits
then you ALWAYS perform below yur limits....
don't take the easy road cuz it's easy
it's easy for a reason
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secret way to Contact the FSB!!!!
http://stylishtravlr.com/contact/
make it to the attention of "Mira Terada"
she's taken over Prigozhin's work, she used to live near me in Houston before she moved back to Russia....
small freakin world innit?
the FSB returns to its 'roots' of laundering the Russian Money Clan's Drug profits...
if yur a Russian, and you did time in an American prison, you got 'hero' status in Russia and a foot in the door with the FSB, which for Russians, doesn't get much better
just sayin...
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For the record on here I believe the UK should withdraw from NATO. For we are better of and far more useful providing military and financial aid to Ukraine. We can do that outside of NATO. We have Nuclear weapons so we don't really need NATO, all that NATO is for us is a liability of us getting daisy chained into a war by the actions of most likely some Eastern Bloc country like Lithuania or maybe even France. I personally don't think that our withdrawal from NATO would weaken the alliance. Both the US and France have Nukes and our Army isn't of a large size where we would be able to contribute much in terms of ground forces. For us we would just be making ourselves a target unnecessarily.
I think every country is different in that though. For former Eastern Bloc countries that border Russia, Belarus or us near those countries I understand that it works for them. Even for Germany and a few others in Europe it may work, but for us we're not situated where they are, we can do little to help them anyway. For us strategically an alliance like NATO where if one is attacked we are all in whether we liked it or not is nowadays just a big liability waiting to happen. We can remove that liability and hence what amounts to a strategic blunder by withdrawing from NATO.
I think to date many people in Britain view NATO as an advantage without seeing the negatives glaring us in the face. I personally see NATO as a big risk pulling us into a war we do not need. There are some who are foolish enough to want to drag other countries into a war with boots on the ground in Ukraine. I personally still back sending military & financial aid it's far more effective and thereby fighting the war by proxy. The boots on the ground mentality is a clumsy military style of thinking that often makes our strategic position worse not better.
I definitely think that in all a lot of countries don't consider the downsides to joining some alliances. In my opinion they should be carefully evaluated before deciding if it's right for that country to be a part of it. I wouldn't like to see NATO ended as I believe it is of great value to Central & Eastern Europe, but for us it's no longer something that is beneficial to the UK I think.
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if I'm smart...
I'll learn to live a quiet life...
but nobody's gonna be able to ignore the coming storms on the horizon
I'm thinking of stockpiling plenty of packets of rice of all variety. They are cheap and store in a very compact manner so being very efficient on space.
Will I need some kind of Nuclear Bunker too?
At the moment I'm kind of tied up with stuff but soon I should have more time on my hands to do stuff so can make greater preparations.
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when ya live in a 'bad neighborhood' ya have no choice but to join a gang for protection from other gangs (I spent summers in Brooklyn)
NATO will protect all you Europeons from the Chinese K-Pop Gangs and Islamic GeeHadSomeFun, oh and the Leningrad Cowboys to, all notorious foreign devils out to get fair English maidens, of that you can be assured
the British military ain't all that much, ya'll got licked by a buncha farmers with muskets, multiple times for cryin out loud, we still talk 'bout that over here and even sing songs 'bout it
ahem...
WELL, in 1814, we took a little trip, along with Col Jackson down the mighty Mississipp
we took a liitle bacon, and we took a liitle beans
and we fought the bloody British at the town of Now Orleans (7 hr drive from me)
ya'll get yur ass kicked too many times
so I'd join a gang if I was you!!!!
and besides, without all your lost colonies, yur hood's too danged small
now listen-up me bruv
you don't need to stockpile no food for the apocalypse!!!!
sheeeettt man,
stop thinkin like an "English Squire"
"I say 'ole chap, I believe I should endeavor to increase supply of essential items..."
NO! NO! NO!!!
what ya need is a shotgun and some shells (and some balls)
and with those you can take whatever the phuque ya need from anywhere...
I'd keep an inventory of the local wealthy and businesses
nothing beats the power of the element of surprise combined with good planning and a bold demeanor
me 'bruv, I'd be on them so fast...
for me, on DAY ONE of the Apocalypse it's gonna be like Peaky Blinders at bloody Margate on Guy Fawkes Day
you will need to wear phuquing ear-plugs or you'll go completely deaf mate...
I FEEL A SURGE IN THE URGE TO PURGE!!!
Have you tried the NEW PowderMilk Biscuits????
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history repeats...
http://twitter.com/i/status/1790791745099137446 1930s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf3v1IBb8nU 2020s
WAKE THE PHUQUE UP!!!
50 years from now, most of humanity will start moving underground - they'll have no choice cuz of climate disasters
this is what elon musk's BORING company is for....
in the USA, people will make the transition slowly, due to rapidly rising insurance premiums caused by an increasing amount of expensive weather disasters
people will start skipping insurance by living below ground, until it becomes universal
and it will be cheaper as well, ideal for an era of scarcity
50 years from now, our idea of 'a home' will be very different from what it is today
the billionaires are using debt and inflation to rob the working class to pad their own balance sheets
they manipulate the democratic process for their direct monetary gain so they can reduce social spending for the working class to make them dependent on the billionaire class
the billionaire's hate the government's social spending even though ultimately this money goes to them
they hate it, cuz it reduces their leverage over the working class
the 2030s will be the struggle of socialism combined with "monetary theory" vrs a theocratic austerity autocracy (the worst kind) funded by oligarchs to maintain their control over the economy
the 2040s will be the decade of global warfare a.ka.a WWIII
whatever side wins, will end the current global economic system and replace it
capital will either come directly from the government without middlemean
or the middlemen will acquire control of the government to reduce it and grab all the capital for themselves
Russia will NOT use nukes in Ukraine, it's gonna be Novichok, initially from the clandestine lab in the DPR
and after the initial precedent is set....
there will be clouds of it rollin 'cross Ukrainian fields from the Russian MOD made in Moscva
EVERYBODY's gonna want Novichok after that!!!!
especially in the middle east
and even Latin Drug Cartels
Novichok will become iconic, the new Kalishnikov
yet, it's invisible....
which is part of it's power
you don't need to go through all that effort to round-em up and transport 'em to gas 'em in the camps
when you can just gas 'em in their sleep right in their own wretched neighborhood with AI guided Novichok Drones
can you say, "efficient"?
see, I knew ya could
it's so efficient, you don't even need to maintain a costly military establishment
so the kleptocrats can keep all that military spending for themselves to...
you have a problem with pests, you call the Novichok Exterminators, and not the non-existent trillion-dollar-a-year military that priced itself out of existence
I don't know WHY ya'll haven't figured out, that the theme of this board, is gonna become increasing irrelevant considering the direction the world is moving in...
RWD is tied to a disappearing past and refuses to acknowledge this
the vast majority of FSU 'seekers' are 'middle-class' and not WEALTHY
they're gonna get crushed by the debt bomb and won't be leavin home
and the debt bomb 'goin off' is a certainty
ergo, what's the point of this board?
you are all deluding yourselves by sticking your head in the sand, pretending this doesn't pertain to you
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history repeats...
http://twitter.com/i/status/1790791745099137446 1930s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf3v1IBb8nU 2020s
WAKE THE PHUQUE UP!!!
50 years from now, most of humanity will start moving underground - they'll have no choice cuz of climate disasters
this is what elon musk's BORING company is for....
in the USA, people will make the transition slowly, due to rapidly rising insurance premiums caused by an increasing amount of expensive weather disasters
people will start skipping insurance by living below ground, until it becomes universal
and it will be cheaper as well, ideal for an era of scarcity
50 years from now, our idea of 'a home' will be very different from what it is today
the billionaires are using debt and inflation to rob the working class to pad their own balance sheets
they manipulate the democratic process for their direct monetary gain so they can reduce social spending for the working class to make them dependent on the billionaire class
the billionaire's hate the government's social spending even though ultimately this money goes to them
they hate it, cuz it reduces their leverage over the working class
the 2030s will be the struggle of socialism combined with "monetary theory" vrs a theocratic austerity autocracy (the worst kind) funded by oligarchs to maintain their control over the economy
the 2040s will be the decade of global warfare a.ka.a WWIII
whatever side wins, will end the current global economic system and replace it
capital will either come directly from the government without middlemean
or the middlemen will acquire control of the government to reduce it and grab all the capital for themselves
Russia will NOT use nukes in Ukraine, it's gonna be Novichok, initially from the clandestine lab in the DPR
and after the initial precedent is set....
there will be clouds of it rollin 'cross Ukrainian fields from the Russian MOD made in Moscva
EVERYBODY's gonna want Novichok after that!!!!
especially in the middle east
and even Latin Drug Cartels
Novichok will become iconic, the new Kalishnikov
yet, it's invisible....
which is part of it's power
you don't need to go through all that effort to round-em up and transport 'em to gas 'em in the camps
when you can just gas 'em in their sleep right in their own wretched neighborhood with AI guided Novichok Drones
can you say, "efficient"?
see, I knew ya could
it's so efficient, you don't even need to maintain a costly military establishment
so the kleptocrats can keep all that military spending for themselves to...
you have a problem with pests, you call the Novichok Exterminators, and not the non-existent trillion-dollar-a-year military that priced itself out of existence
I don't know WHY ya'll haven't figured out, that the theme of this board, is gonna become increasing irrelevant considering the direction the world is moving in...
RWD is tied to a disappearing past and refuses to acknowledge this
the vast majority of FSU 'seekers' are 'middle-class' and not WEALTHY
they're gonna get crushed by the debt bomb and won't be leavin home
and the debt bomb 'goin off' is a certainty
ergo, what's the point of this board?
you are all deluding yourselves by sticking your head in the sand, pretending this doesn't pertain to you
RWD Forever!!! :thumbsup:
So what's your plan to deal with this period Krim? You're a man of wealth with resources to do stuff. You've got daughters to protect, how are you going to make sure their ok?
I think that's probably right about most FSW seekers being middle class but not wealthy. I'm probably lucky in having more wealth than many from a working class background. If I wasn't able to leverage the small wealth I had then I probably wouldn't get much of a look in with nearly all FSW. However, I'm not at all Wealthy really.
Well Hitler in English is an interesting one to listen too. A good line in at the end I think, 'stand up for me as I stand up for you'. So, it's Hitler Vs Churchill and 'Never Surrender'.
Hitler sounds more melodramatic in the German tongue I think though.
In fairness for both having listened to a bit of their other speeches both could be a bit boring in their less famous speeches. They just seemed to get it right at certain times I think if their audience.
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my plan for dealing with the approaching future dystopia?
death....cuz the dead have no cares....
me worry? NOPE!!!!
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my plan for dealing with the approaching future dystopia?
death....cuz the dead have no cares....
me worry? NOPE!!!!
Yeah but I'm guessing you're in your 60s now Krim, you could easily go on to your 80s or longer.
What will your daughters do in such a scenario? Surely you want them to continue?
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i've already "let go" of almost everything and everyone...
I don't fear the reaper
meanwhile. in Crimea...
there's been rocket and drone attacks every day for the past week targetting air defenses
hmmmm....
too bad we can kiss goodby any notion of a Ukrainian offensive
Ukraine's stratagy is to bleed Russia with a strong defense
so they're planning on it being a long war (inverse blitzkrieg = WWI Trench warfare which equates to a massive human slaughter for no real territorial gain)
it's a war of attrition
to see which country will break first
the winner is the side which can accept the heaviest losses militarily
and can still arm it's forces and replace it's losses
it needs popular support on both sides
a supply chain is only as strong as it's weakest link
Putin's gonna call the crooks with the bolt cutters
Los Latinos Rus
the English poet Sigfried Sassoon (love that name) will become popular and will be translated into Ukrainian
this 'phase' of the war, will not last forever....
becuz Putin's 'planning methodology" is always 'event driven'
he has to wait until November, to see the outcome of the US election
before creating a pretext for the DPR to use their home-grown DIY Novichok
after the DPR attack, the Russian MOD switches to Blitzkrieg mode with Novichok wiping out Ukraine's forces nearly overnight...
then they advance on the unprotected cities
ultimately, the West can't respond to this...
THIS is how Pooty Poot will change the underlying dynamics of the war
the way Hitler used the Blitzkrieg to overcome the Maginot line
and make NATO support and even NATO itself totally irrelevant...
a bold claim you say?
not when the Russian Military Industrial Complex teams up with Europe's and Amerika's Drug Cartels
and they start attacking the West from WITHIN these countries to even attack each other
NATO is worthless
Tin Soldiers and Putin are coming with terrible new versions of old weapons that white people haven't seen for over a century and forgot about...
it's called "Chemical Warfare"
A 'cloudy' morning in Nouvelle Ypres
after EVERYBODY has accepted the use of Novichok in Ukraine....
it's fame and popularity will only grow
and there will be even more improved "NOVO" Novichoks
note: I have taken over translating the hacked copy of Russian research on Prions, learning about their effort at creating a universal protein 'mis-folder"
as well as creating synthetic antibodies that are probably the most toxic substances that can possibly exist...
WMDS you can keep in your shirt pocket...yur tourist walks into the capitol, hides the device in some corner, pushes the timer and GTF outta there!!!
you have plane loads of tourists comin at the same time
at zero hour, they fan out, and they take down the whole place
after Novichok, the Barbarians are all gonna 'come hard' at the gates!!!
then after...
when the Western economies start collapsing in the 2030s
they will start to understand Putin's Logic
why spend a trillion$ per year for a bumbling, inefficient army
when for a tiny fraction of that you can create the Novichok Exterminators who will be 100 times more effective
what happens to the west when their enemies ALL start doing this
and they bring the war to the west
beware of when the world turns upside down
and the meek start preying on the mighty
meanwhile, the FSB is starting to feel empowered enuff to switch from espionage to sabotage
first in Europe, then in the USA (they're gonna follow the supply chain all the way back to the factories!!)
they'll pick the low hangin fruit first...like natural gas distribution hubs, then go for the weapons factories
right now they're buildin up 'the westen munitions makers' data profiles lookin for weak spots for 'exploits'
they got hidden encrypted cameras EVERYWHERE in the USA tied to the web
so they know the production and delivery 'schedules' by solar powered AI Cams watchin EVERYTHING
closin the west coast russian embassy hurt russian manpower in the USA, along with law enforcement shutting down east coast russian mob
so once more they're gonna run US operations out of Mexico City while also seeking alliances with the narco cartels
hey NSA
do you know Mikhail Antonov????
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On the other hand the world is full of variables, anything could happen :-\
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anything?
like RWD servers getting exhausted from overuse?
we mist be up to 1 post per week by now...
hey Iran, guess who 'fixed' the helicopter???
hehe, it was 'my people'
they don't need 300 rockets and drones
when they can replace one small component in the control box instead...
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Seems the man was in for a rather hard landing lol.
I kind of guessed it wasn't due to the weather storm but a convenient cover for it.
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not the first aircraft 'they' brought down through 'clever' means
the mullahs are gonna be REALLY upset over this one, cuz they'll have to mute their response
Mossad is very subtle compared to Iran
they killed terrorists in Dubai by strangling them in their hotel rooms at night
all the mossad agents had fake USA passports they copy from tourists visiting Israel
they are the world's best killers
the phrase 'cloak and dagger' is an historic reference to Jewish assissins from Roman times
experience!!!
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not the first aircraft 'they' brought down through 'clever' means
the mullahs are gonna be REALLY upset over this one, cuz they'll have to mute their response
Mossad is very subtle compared to Iran
they killed terrorists in Dubai by strangling them in their hotel rooms at night
all the mossad agents had fake USA passports they copy from tourists visiting Israel
they are the world's best killers
the phrase 'cloak and dagger' is an historic reference to Jewish assissins from Roman times
experience!!!
I was impressed with your correct (and rare) usage of "an historic reference" (vice the too common and incorrect 'a historic reference') only to be disappointed in your misspelling of assassin. :)
You are correct with your occasional critique of RWD's low traffic levels. Inputs for improvement are welcome - either by PM or in the 'RWD Site Feedback' section ... http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?board=26.0.
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ha!!!
I am in the spelling resistance
and you fell for my carefully laid spelling NAZI trap!!!!!
ironically, the word assassin is derived from 'hashish'
which is the reason why I can't even spell DAWG at the moment
I am an authentic assassin....
the problem is:
you put too many constraints on content which causes an inhibitory effect
combined with the mission of this board losing relevance as time goes on
it means a 'new mission'...
one idea, and you wouldn't even have to change URL domain of this board...
R Russian
W War
D Discussion
Putin on the Fritz!!
beyond the content, there are other issues:
the problem with this 'older' style of web presentation methodology
is that they've been eclipsed by 'social media' like facebook, twitter, etc
most people will go there
maybe RWD should change to being on Twitter (yes, I know it's "X", and elon musk sucks)
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the problem is:
you put too many constraints on content which causes an inhibitory effect
combined with the mission of this board losing relevance as time goes on
it means a 'new mission'...
one idea, and you wouldn't even have to change URL domain of this board...
R Russian
W War
D Discussion
Putin on the Fritz!!
beyond the content, there are other issues:
the problem with this 'older' style of web presentation methodology
is that they've been eclipsed by 'social media' like facebook, twitter, etc
most people will go there
maybe RWD should change to being on Twitter (yes, I know it's "X", and elon musk sucks)
I have been thinking the same recently. I think a good way to go about it is keep this Website BUT launch a RWD on Twitter as well! That way there can be a link to this website forum for more in-depth talk on the subject.
The problem Twitter has is that it isn't as well developed as this website for sections, topics, threads, etc. so you're not going to be able to get as much depth there without it becoming a jumble and people not knowing what's where.
What Twitter does have going for it is 'traffic' many people frequent twitter, likely many more than Google these days. So it's a great place to pick up people who are interested in Russia/Ukraine at the moment who don't know this site even exists! The Russia/Ukraine situation is a big topic on Twitter at the moment and RWD is missing out.
It could really help with a rebirth of RWD without doing much at all. A RWD twitter group with familiar logo and top picture would be easy to set up within moments. Plus the best thing is that it's free! What could be better it being both quick to do and free. Then just link to here at the top of the page details in Twitter and voilà the peeps will probably come here to check this place out too :)
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Worth mentioning also if not already aware it's possible to have your own personal twitter page and have an additional page for a subject interest such as this. So Dan could add it to his existing Twitter account (if he has one yet) and flick back and forth between the two as he wishes.
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I was impressed with your correct (and rare) usage of "an historic reference" (vice the too common and incorrect 'a historic reference') . . .
You are both wrong !!
You should use “an” before a word beginning with an “h” only if the “h” is not pronounced: “an honest effort” but “a historic event."
This is the standard rule that calls for "an" before vowel sounding beginnings and "a" before consonant sounding beginnings.
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Twitter is only for imbeciles.
I have no Twitter account (and never will) but I followed links to there a couple of times.
Short incomplete sentences and ideas that seem like writings of someone less than 10 years old.
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Twitter is only for imbeciles.
I have no Twitter account (and never will) but I followed links to there a couple of times.
Short incomplete sentences and ideas that seem like writings of someone less than 10 years old.
Twitter does have the downside of being limited to a number of characters per reply so posters like me can't write long rambling replies like I like too :D
It's another reason why to keep the Forum here to run alongside. I don't think it's good as a replacement forum because you don't get nearly the same. It's is as you point out stunted and because you're so heavily limited on wordage on it, too much I think and that is too it's detriment. I think it's worth a shot in terms of seeing if the traffic to this site can be improved. Whether it turns out to be the traffic wanted may be another matter but it's free and easy to find out.
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This is an article I was saw just the other day that I think is relevant to our discussion here:
http://unherd.com/newsroom/google-declares-the-end-of-the-world-wide-web/
Shocking and surprising I know but most likely true. I still find Google and the World Wide Web (i.e webpages) most useful, but thd younger generation do seem to go more off social media apps and just search for stuff there. Facebook for example has most company pages as again they are free and easy to create I believe. That shaves many hours off producing a professional looking webpage for it's users and is free to do and maintain.
The girl I am dating is like that as from the younger generation. I don't get the impression that she uses Google much if anything at all. Mark Zuckerberg has taken over the internet lol. It's a great shame as there can be a lot more info on the World Wide Web that she misses. I prefer webpages to social media apps but I do use twitter to keep up to date with stuff as it helps to touch base with what's going on out there particularly with like minded people.
Is there a 'dumbing down' of the internet on social media, I think so but it's part of people wanting answers quicker and quicker as the modern age speeds up ever faster and if course that is to the detriment of depth of knowledge as a result, you don't get nought for nought. Nonetheless, it has it's place and is useful in some ways and helps to explain why traffic has been falling off here, not just here but webpages in general it seems.
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I think some good points were also raised here in the thread I created not so long ago about the forum issues with lack of involvement:
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=25800.0
I think it was Davo in that thread if I remember rightly that made a good point in that a lot of guys these days don't want to advertise much on their relationship online in an open forum that in theory can be viewed by anyone. It could be quite obvious to those that know that person to link them if they gave much in the way off details at all on their relationships. So it can make it kind of awkward gif the guys here to discuss relationships on what is a relationships forum.
In the not so distant past the World Wide Web wasn't in reality quite World Wide for most in practice but only in theory. Most of the World Wide Web was segregated by language barriers into the country areas where that language existed and anyone else with a very good grasp of that language. The knowledge of websites in that language and it's website address etc was needed. Then came along Google with automatic translate of websites and so the barriers dropped and many, many more people from other cultures, Slavic, etc could get to and read western websites far more easily. That of course isn't so reassuring a prospect for most male forum users here. I would venture that guys willing to post much about their relationships and activities declined rapidly after that.
Fortunately as Krim points out popularity in the World Wide Web has dropped off since then especially among the younger generation and even older generations in favour of Social Media Apps. That kind of makes this Forum site an almost clandestine presence with few knowing of its existence. However the ease of access for any looking doesn't exactly imbue confidence in being able to partake in relationship discussion here like people used too.
Potentially stuff may change a little in a year or so time if the Russian War comes to an end one way or another, interest in relationships might pick up again out in the FSU.
I think there is another possibility other than Russians using Novichok or WMD to end the war. I think there may be the possibility of the war continuing for a long period of time but in a far less active stalemate kind of situation. A lot like how the situation was between 2014 to 2022, a war ongoing, both sides entrenched but neither being able to break through or having the resources to do so. If you think about it Russia is going to run low on Armaments & Money from 2025 onwards. The West is going to run low on Money with which to support the Ukrainian war effort about the same sort of time most likely.
So instead of both sides, Russia & Ukraine being able to throw vast amounts of Armaments and Money in ferious warfare both will slow down to a soberingly slow not much happening in comparison sort of situation and just be stuck that way likely for years and years. Peace may only come when Putler passes in with old age or gets retired off. A new regime/clan in Russia could likely find it more beneficial in ending the war in Ukraine to preserve their place in power. And then everything moves on as it does.
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Putin has to balance RISKS v REWARDS
it's always a quantitative question in a negative sum game
if he lowers the intensity of the war to reduce losses, he gets a lower gain in return...
however, some of his risks are "fixed costs" like sanctions
and won't go away, if he stops fighting
so he'd have to accept these losses without any means to achieve positive gains
playin this way is NOT a winning strategy
I know it's hard to tell, but Putin REALLY IS actually TRYING to win
the prophetic writing of George Orwell, tells ya pretty much EVERYTHING you need to know about Putin's Russia...
Prigozhin echoed the observation Orwell made, about war being a tool to preserve the rigid top-down social hierarchy in a totalitarian society
so infinite war is a NECESSITY to maintain his rule
but it has to be a WINNING War
otherwise the costs of a losing war will jeopardize the social hierarchy, which is the thing that Russia's dick taters always feared would be their downfall
a revolt of the masses due to the costs of the war, like in 1917
my view is that either next summer, or the one after that
the DPR will create a Reichstag fire, with some toxic 'industrial chemicals"that kills a lot of people and blame it on Ukraine
their equivalent of bombing apartments in Ryazan
then DPR rebels will "retaliate" against Ukrainian forces with locally made rebel Novichok
Russia just watches at this point
if the WEST retaliates against the DPR for using Novichok on their own territory against Ukraine, then the DPR attacks a large Ukrainian city with Novichok in retaliation
after that, once it's clear, that there isn't gonna be any REAL MILITARY response to the DPR, out of fear of their retaliation on Ukrainian civilians
then and only then does the Russian MOD step in and 'kick it up a notch" and deploy a few hundred tons of Novichok-A236 in a Blitzkrieg type of attack...
people in the WEST, DO NOT EVEN KNOW how to fight a war anymore, let alone how to win one...
it's like the whole freakin culture is some kinda "humane society" and war is not healthy for children and other living things
this kinda pacifist non-sense is just gonna get ya'll killed one day
yur enemies have NO FEAR of pacifists, they consider them cowards
your own people will be against any kind of military action against Russia
thus, your enemies will use yur own democratic ideals against you, the way they are against Israel
and it's one of the many reasons yur ALL gonna lose against a small little bully like Putin, who is struggling bullying someone even weaker
cuz yur leaders are afraid of the collapse of yur own social hierarchy, so your gonna avoid taking actions that bring risks to it
YES! Mr Chamberlain, there will be PEACE in our time!!!
now ya'll probably think that what I'm writing here is really "far-fetched"
no it ain't
not when ya consider, Putin got the Crimean Mafiya to take over the Crimean Parliment
and vote to secceed from Ukraine, and it worked
not to mention Putin was the one who tipped the scales in 2016 in Trump's favor
and it worked
I could go on and on, but I'm sure ya'll get my point
the things that Putin's "good at" vrs the things he ain't
I think he already realizes all this
and is gonna work on gettin his groove back
Putin's iron curtain, reduces the effects of sanctions, by turning Russia into a "closed system" with a reduced dependency on foreign trade
as well as Russia replacing consumerism with militarism, reduces consumer demand for western goods as well
when the debt bombs blow up in the USA in the next decade....
Russia will be unaffected, except for inflation caused by switching all finance to rubles
Putin would be in line to win the BIG game
if he did just one thing, that Russians PREVIOUSLY did once before
can you guess what it is?
Ptuin has time to carefully conceal his Novichok operation from the west
the intelligence community knew when he was going to invade
Novichok needs to be a COMPLETE SURPRIZE!!! and over and done with in a week or so ending with Putin's Triumphant entry into Kyiv which of course is gonna be spelled Kiev!!!
this will be a MUCH more dangerous Putin
then if he took Ukraine in 3 days with no resistance
the West created this Putin, the same way the West created Osama Bin Ladin in the Afghan war
and it'll have the same results
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Yeah but old Putler hasn't got much time left, he's an old man now. Who can say how many days, months or years he has left on this planet before old age or health ailments finish him off. Even aside from that as he ages he's less likely to be up to being in charge right at the top, at some point he'll probably have to step aside or be forced too. Especially if others around him see him as weak and fancy stepping into his shoes.
My thoughts are that Putler knows he's only got so long one way or another and the war in part is just to satisfy his fellow Oligarchs I the mean time so they don't come at him. My guess is he would rather buy himself the few extra years than have them come at him and finish him off earlier. For Putler with not so many years left in the clock whatever happens in the war ain't going to matter to him one way or another as he's not going to be around in the long term either way.
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Putin's already wasted over 2 yrs
if Putin can make Trump President again in November, then he has a much shorter path to victory, and doesn't need Novichok
so he plots and waits....
if Biden wins,
then he has to at least wait until next summer (Novichok needs warm weather)
so the timeline isn't long term, it's 1-2 more years for this to happen
should Putin meet Stalin's fate, then the FSB will decide who the next president will be...
it may be someone worst than Putin
Putin's only skill is spycraft
he does poorly at everything else
and he's the biggest kleptocrat
when Putin is replaced, it'll be by a non kleptocrat
which will change EVERYTHING
the old Kleptocrats are all holdovers from Yeltsin
they are gonna be an endangered species
watch the movie "Death of Stalin"
when Putin dies, the kleptocrats get purged
when the west applied "anti-biotics" to Putin, they didn't use enuff
what it did was to turn Putin into a more resistant pathogen
who is more dangerous now then he was before the war and harder to stop
Putin has his own anti-biotics to keep the Ruusian population's obedience
medications that the west doesn't have, and they're gonna need it to fight the socio-economic chaos of the '30s, which will be BIGGER than anything we've seen before
so a war of attrition will always favor Dr Putin vrs an unhealthy, declining WEST that will financially implode 10 yr from now
cuz the oligarch's privitizied profits for themselves while transferring costs to the public debt with interest that they pay to themselves as well
and the debt reaches a "critical mass" and blows up EVERYTHING!
yet, all the oligarchs are, are just middlemen...
owners with rent seeking behavior who suck down all the wealth that workers create and then hand the workers the bills to pay
Russia will be the first to get rid of the kleptocrats (again)
and either we get rid of them as well, or they will enslave the rest of us (this is what the oligarch's in the US are planning)
kill the social safety net, all you retirees wanna eat, then ya better come to work for Walmart
Putin has been using western kleptocrats the whole time to fight the west, they're his allies
this is why the 'fake war on woke' is being fought
while yur distracted with gay cowboys being pushed by oligarch owned media
you remain blind to how the people pushing gay cowboy alarmism are all robbing you
and if you even DARE to think this way, yur a COMMIE!!!
and yur told every day, how BAD communism is
in reality, whatcha are is a bunch of easily fooled dumb phuques,
lemmings marching towards the cliff
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Putin's already wasted over 2 yrs
if Putin can make Trump President again in November, then he has a much shorter path to victory, and doesn't need Novichok
so he plots and waits....
if Biden wins,
then he has to at least wait until next summer (Novichok needs warm weather)
Yeah but Trump won't get in with his feet under the table until late January/early February. By then our beloved Putler will likely be fielding army reminiscent of a WWII Soviet Army re-enactment festival.
I would say likely by then it's going to be too late for Putler his Army is just going to be too clapped out with too little conventional military power and time to influence matters on the ground in his favour. By then even if the US stops providing and further funds Ukraine will likely still have enough to hold off a dwindling Russian Army that's in too poor a state to mount credible offensives. Ukraine will still have left over whatever they get from the US, it will have stuff it's now producing itself and if will have stuff from the UK/EU.
I still think that whoever is in power in the West it's mostly about matching the Russians pound for pound. I believe Western leaders and Militaries have decided that they don't want to enrage Putler by over supplying Ukraine so Russia starts to fall back more as when Putler is checked he will go for Checkmate. They equally don't want Ukraine to falter too badly, they instead want Ukraine to run down the threat from Russia for them. Russia has always been seen as a threat that gets in the way and is a nuisance to the West, even a thorn in its side. They want that threat gone. Once the old Soviet Army is gond that has been built up over decades Putler is in a much less powerful position. However, the West won't want to finish off his Army completely, that will again push him to a checked and Checkmate position. Instead I believe they will cut back on their support for Ukraine as Russia's Army falters. They probably won't have the money either, I believe you are correct in that. They will be happy to see the war descend back into a stalemate that existed 2014 - 2022.
Russia for it's part will be grateful that it's decrepit army won't be up against a Ukrainian Army thatvis armed to the teeth and that it's army doesn't have the ability to move forward either. So the war will go into a long term slow nothing much happening situation. Some way along the way most likely post Putler the new lot coming into power will see it advantageous to be done with it so they can go more about securing power and riches for themselves in Russia so far as that goes, depends who gets into power after Putler of course.
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Russia has an inexhaustible supply of stoopid peasants, rubles and 50 year old junk military hardware (even sharp sticks will suffice)
these are the only ingredients needed to continue the war
the only brakes to stop the war, are the Russian people, who are currently more afraid of Putin than they are of Ukraine
and their media and education keep 'em too ignorant to realize that it's NOT Ukraine and the West causing them to be killed and maimied by the hundreds of thousands, IT'S PUTIN!!!
Hitler's opinion of Russian peasants and Putin's are more or less the same, "a people born for the yoke" a la Volga Boat Men
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http://youtu.be/LJ8p6NwjKCc
Equipment from parade earlier this month spotted on way to Ukraine.
MUGA Make Ukraine Great Again
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That was a good video post Grumpy, I watch the video and the guy doing it had a good take on the situation by the looks of it. He also drew attention to Russia's Soviet Arsenal running out in about a year's time if that now.
I saw news headlines on Yahoo that Putler was up for peace now perhaps he's concerned about the Russian disarmament programme unfolding before his eyes. Looks like he wants to keep hold of the territory he's taken. I don't see the Ukrainians willing to agree to that, wishful thinking on his part I think.
Here's a link for Krim to take a peek at. I saw it on Twitter (X) and if looks like the type of stuff he likes to talk about:
http://twitter.com/GBNAmerica/status/1794065830897995819?t=d231zlKTj2v264x4rtNAlQ&s=19
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Banon belongs in jail...
people lie
numbers don't
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Banon belongs in jail...
people lie
numbers don't
The funding of the whole Trump Wall scam that he pulled if I vaguely remember correctly. I didn't read deep into it but apparently he set up a fund to fund some of the wall then ran off with the money.
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Ukraine looks to be threatened by Russia's forces on its northern border:
http://www.euronews.com/2024/05/26/ukraine-war-zelenskyy-warns-of-russian-advances-kharkiv-strike-death-toll-rises-peace-summ
Apart from troops stationed on its northern border Ukraine doesn't currently have any troops in reserve. This is a precarious situation for Ukraine to be in as although Ukraine is holding Russian troops back at present were Russian troops to break through anywhere Ukraine would be screwed.
That's a military flaw Ukraine needs to urgently rectify by bringing up more troops and quickly. If it doesn't it's leaving itself open for a easy defeat where it needn't suffer one in the next few days to weeks.
Belarus will need watching too. Now that they have finished installing Russian Nukes on its soul it leaves Belarus more capable of joining the attack. That this has been completed at this time may be no coincidence. A joint Belarusian & Russian attack on Ukraine's northern border could be difficult for Ukraine to answer to even with dug in fortifications. Ukraine will need to boost it's number of soldiers significantly so not to be caught napping and be agile on its feet to responding to such threats. Belarusian forces are now better equipped and trained than in previous years so they could be a significant threat on the battlefield.
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Ukraine's recent mobilization effort got a million ukrainians to "sign-up" willingly or not...
so they have man-power
what they don't have is enuff weapons...
cuz that's not under their control
that's the achilles heel of Ukraine
and where Putin will focus his efforts now in the short term
while resurrecting the Soviet Russian military industrial complex for the long term
already a bolshoi OKTOBER SURPRIZE is underway for the USA
this is Putin's "Pet Project"
he's transporting highly trained Islamic terrorists to Mexico so they can cross the border
and hehe, the terrorists are complaining about lack of water there
ain't 'signal intelligence' a hoot!!!
there are two groups,
the first group is the "probing" group
the second group are the "specialists"
their first mission is to TOTALLY DISRUPT the election in Nov
second mission is the American military-industrial complex
Putin knows how to leverage his oppertunism
asymmetrical hybrid warfare
first acts of physical sabotage already done in europe and the USA
America's next 9-11 will start with a 10-
the countdown has started...
you won't be able to blame it on Russians
cuz they'll all be ARABS
and yur gonna blame it on.....BIDEN!!!!!
(Well, that's Putin's Plan)
if trump gets convicted in NYC in the next few weeks, his odds of winning the presidency drops to nearly ZERO
and the odds of him grifting and scamming the republican party and his base climbs to 100%
and the odds of this leading to the decline of the republican party climbs to 100%
Trump is the silver lining in the dark republican cloud
Trump is the redneck playing with a loaded gun who shoots himself in the foot
Trump will take down Trump and everything connected to Trump...in just a matter of a few more months....
watch and learn...
and yes, this IS ALL connected to Russia, always has been, from DAY ONE!!
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if trump gets convicted in NYC in the next few weeks, his odds of winning the presidency drops to nearly ZERO
Well your favourite topic is up here Krim,
Trump! ;D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
Looks like he's been found guilty! on 34 charges.
I would guess with being found guilty on that many charges he will be going to jail????
If he goes to jail I guess that's him out of the US Presidential Election race.
And Ukraine :D Lol.
Seriously, well tell us how Trump being found guilty affects Ukraine now?
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it means a future Trump Presidency isn't gonna happen
between now and November - the only thing Trump does is drain money from the republican party...
Putin's only hope is Novichok
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25-30% percent of Republican voters say the guilty verdicts increases their intention to vote for Donald.
It's all . . . them vs us.
Donald said he only got 5% of the vote in 2020 from the area that the jury pool was drawn from . . . so guilty vote not surprising.
However, the decision had to be 12 out of 12 . . . so I am surprised that one or two did not vote not guilty.
But fact that the jury pool was from such a totally blue area, I think increases the chance the appeal court will throw out the verdict in view of the judge's refusal to grant a change of venue.
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Joe gave go ahead for Ukraine to use US weapons to shoot across border into Russia . . . but only across from Kharkiv . . . and not for long distance even in that direction.
Well, better than before.
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Trump will suck as much money out of the Republican Party as he possibly can between now and Nov, it's his ONLY REAL purpose for being there....
and this will contribute to the party's demise
Trump is hurting other Republican down-ballot congressional candidates that Trump doesn't care about, cuz it's all about Trump for Trump...
each of them must pay Trump 5% of their election haul, the master grifter gets a cut of everybody else's grifting
a pyramid of grifters with Trump on top, like Amway
Thanks ENTIRELY to Trump, In January Democrats WILL control the white house and congres (and they'll deal with a corrupted supreme court)
the "Trump BRAND" is a freakin' joke, all thanks to Trump's actions, he destroyed it himself
and guess who the joke is being played on???
YOU!!!!!
what a buncha freakin dumb asses!!!!!
thank gawd, yur all gonna be in the rear view mirror soon...getting smaller and smaller until ya disappear from view and will be totally irrelevant and forgotten about
BYE FELICIA!!!!
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Trump will suck as much money out of the Republican Party as he possibly can between now and Nov, it's his ONLY REAL purpose for being there....
and this will contribute to the party's demise
Trump is hurting other Republican down-ballot congressional candidates that Trump doesn't care about, cuz it's all about Trump for Trump...
each of them must pay Trump 5% of their election haul, the master grifter gets a cut of everybody else's grifting
a pyramid of grifters with Trump on top, like Amway
Thanks ENTIRELY to Trump, In January Democrats WILL control the white house and congres (and they'll deal with a corrupted supreme court)
the "Trump BRAND" is a freakin' joke, all thanks to Trump's actions, he destroyed it himself
and guess who the joke is being played on???
YOU!!!!!
what a buncha freakin dumb asses!!!!!
thank gawd, yur all gonna be in the rear view mirror soon...getting smaller and smaller until ya disappear from view and will be totally irrelevant and forgotten about
BYE FELICIA!!!!
Irrelevance is inevitable. Many do not know their grandparents and vastly fewer know their great-grandparents. By the 3rd generation, you and virtually everyone else will be nothing more than an entry in a geneology log, if that.
Speaking of relevance, your post has zero relevance to the topic of the forum. Worse, you choose to insult the readers of the forum. Do your best to remain on-topic and civil even in these chaotic and unprecedented times.
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it means a future Trump Presidency isn't gonna happen
between now and November - the only thing Trump does is drain money from the republican party...
Putin's only hope is Novichok
Can anyone stop him even if he is convicted? Couldn't he be sitting in the White House with a Cell Door on the Oval Office and bars on the windows :D
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"chaotic and unprecedented times"
really?
relevance "TO THE BOARD"?
are you kidding me?
what a sad joke....
this board has NO RELEVANCE to ANYTHING!!
and if somethin ""chaotic and unprecedented" comes along, we're told we have to keep our opinions about it to ourselves
what ABSOLUTE BULL SHIT!
I'll post as I damned well please, with the same intent as EVERYBODY else in this thread
why should I be treated any differently because some of ya don't like me or what I write
Trump voters HAVE PROVED what they are with their actions
if I am guilty of identifying and labeling them for what they TRUELY ARE - fascist morons
then that's "on them" and not me
so either ban me for "simply tellin the truth" or GTF outta my way
the ball is in yur court, cuz I just kicked it there
I ain't changin my behavior over yur ridiculous and selective accusations against me
I WANT you to ban me!!!! I want you to do this and show everyone on the board yur "true color"
and I WANT everyone to SEE IT when ya do!
my execution will be PUBLIC and not PRIVATE
and now that I've backed you into a corner on yur own board
what are ya gonna do about it?
c'mon - bring it!!
I'll skip the cigarette and blindfold
Trench,
Trump is absolutely finished now
Trump was allways just "smoke and mirrors"
he depends a LOT on the optics he "projects with"
the verdict was like a giant fan that blew out all the smoke....
to show that Trump is REALLY just a CROOK, a liar and a thief
who until now, was ALWAYS ABOVE the law
and just enuff people see that and no longer see the totally fake illusory Trump that he projects
that NO WAY could he win in Nov
NO WAY!!!!
but he's gonna go for the donations anyway - cuz half goes into his own pocket
so PLEASE REPUBLICANS - give EVERYTHING you can...EVERYTHING....
and YES, Trump voters are absolute idiots which is becoming more and more self-evident
and if yur poor delicate fee-fees are hurt - too bad!!
but the MAGA movement just died...
and the orange shit gibbon fuhrer is finito!
only question remaining over THESE CHARGES is will he go to prison for this one or for the NEXT SET OF CHARGES....
HaHa!!!!
I REMAIN DEFIANT IN MY DEFENSE OF TRUTH AND LIBERTY
and I regret I only have poor Krimster to offer as a sacrifice for it's defense
but I will gladly stand 'ole Krimster up against the wall - go ahead and shoot him....
let the dead bury the dead
those who believe in liberty should join me
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"chaotic and unprecedented times"
really?
relevance "TO THE BOARD"?
are you kidding me?
what a sad joke....
this board has NO RELEVANCE to ANYTHING!!
and if somethin ""chaotic and unprecedented" comes along, we're told we have to keep our opinions about it to ourselves
what ABSOLUTE BULL SHIT!
I'll post as I damned well please, with the same intent as EVERYBODY else in this thread
why should I be treated any differently because some of ya don't like me or what I write
Trump voters HAVE PROVED what they are with their actions
if I am guilty of identifying and labeling them for what they TRUELY ARE - fascist morons
then that's "on them" and not me
so either ban me for "simply tellin the truth" or GTF outta my way
the ball is in yur court, cuz I just kicked it there
I ain't changin my behavior over yur ridiculous and selective accusations against me
I WANT you to ban me!!!! I want you to do this and show everyone on the board yur "true color"
and I WANT everyone to SEE IT when ya do!
my execution will be PUBLIC and not PRIVATE
and now that I've backed you into a corner on yur own board
what are ya gonna do about it?
c'mon - bring it!!
I'll skip the cigarette and blindfold
Trench,
Trump is absolutely finished now
Trump was allways just "smoke and mirrors"
he depends a LOT on the optics he "projects with"
the verdict was like a giant fan that blew out all the smoke....
to show that Trump is REALLY just a CROOK, a liar and a thief
who until now, was ALWAYS ABOVE the law
and just enuff people see that and no longer see the totally fake illusory Trump that he projects
that NO WAY could he win in Nov
NO WAY!!!!
but he's gonna go for the donations anyway - cuz half goes into his own pocket
so PLEASE REPUBLICANS - give EVERYTHING you can...EVERYTHING....
and YES, Trump voters are absolute idiots which is becoming more and more self-evident
and if yur poor delicate fee-fees are hurt - too bad!!
but the MAGA movement just died...
and the orange shit gibbon fuhrer is finito!
only question remaining over THESE CHARGES is will he go to prison for this one or for the NEXT SET OF CHARGES....
HaHa!!!!
I REMAIN DEFIANT IN MY DEFENSE OF TRUTH AND LIBERTY
and I regret I only have poor Krimster to offer as a sacrifice for it's defense
but I will gladly stand 'ole Krimster up against the wall - go ahead and shoot him....
let the dead bury the dead
those who believe in liberty should join me
:clapping:
Tempest in a teapot.
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uh, it's a "chamberpot" and there ain't tea in there....
sincerely, Who Flung Dung
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Does this mean America isn't going to be made Great Again? :D
That they may have to be made somewhat less than great.
I dunno, some people are reckoning that it won't make Trump lose voters, some think it may even mean he pics up voters as it plays into the theme of him being set up.
We'll have to wait and see on that one.
If Trump really does end up not getting the Presidency then it's looking good for Ukraine in getting ongoing economic support from Ukraine against Russia. At least likely long enough to make Russian use up all it's Soviet Armaments and Money. When that happens Russia becomes the poor boy in both military and wealth in Europe. Can you imagine a Russia with no big Soviet Armaments no more? That's going to be quite a thing. Russia without any teeth besides Nukes & Novichok, a lesser power in Europe. Will be interesting times I think.
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what yur seeing is the capitalist pyramid of "they rule us and fool us" starting to crumble
a hint:
Mexico will soon elect a Jewish Socialist Woman as President....
the USA will have to go through it's "creative destruction" period
when the debt/inflation/climate bombs all "go off"
before we will have a Jewish Socialist Woman as President
but, it's coming....
Trump has accelerated this process by at least 10 years....
his last act will be to reduce the ability of the Republican Party by grifting it's funds for other down-ballot candidates (into his own pocket - of course!)
which SHOULD result in a Democratic landslide in Nov in house and senate (also thanks to supporting Christian Nationalists on Abortion)
and if that happens....
then demographics take over, and the USA becomes MUCH more Blue after each and every election from then on
the USA needs to do what Britain did and form a "Labour Party"
it can start by turning the AFL-CIO into a political party on top of it being a national labor union - why not?
the big structural defect of the Republican Party
is that what's good for oligarchs, is usually bad for workers...
same deal in Russia...
oligarchs get all the money, workers kids die in Ukraine
oligarch's privitize the profits for themselves
and transfer costs to the public sector as debts for the public to pay
the working class in America will be "wiped out" financially in the next decade because of this
it will happen with 100% certainty
in numeris veritas
they rule you to extract money from your labor for themselves
and they fool you - so you don't know the truth
but as Lincoln said....
you can't fool all the people all the time, just the ones who watch Fox News
Exploiters can only exist when they control an exploited group
slavery didn't end in 1865, it just became more subtle
slavery was also a defective economic system
it was actually cheaper to pay an immigrant low wages
than to tie up capital in a slave and pay to take care of him...
the side effect of slavery is that it suppressed wages for white southern workers by 25%
but who did poor whites support in the South, and what happened to those poor whites who supported the southern planation owners...
yur own ignorance is what condemns you people, and NOT ME
the "struggle" is always between rich and poor
and that's why the rich are so desperate to make it appear that the social struggles be about GAY vrs Christian and black vrs white
and ya'll are dumb enuff for their plan to work
conservatives want "the status quo" for things NOT to change, preserve the capitalist pyramid at all costs
but when I look at the numbers....
10 years from now, status quo is gonna be impossible....
i'm the lone voice in the wilderness
warnin ya
of things to come
at the end of this decade "the chickens are all gonna start comin' home to roost"
only they're vultures and not chickens
and when this all "goes down"
ya'll are gonna forget about the FSU, cuz where yur livin will be just as bad if not worse
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I don't doubt that you are correct in your analysis of the figures Krim that there is going to be an almighty financial crisis coming a few years from now. Debt was a growing issue in Government's around the world up to 2020. Then COVID came along and made that a whole lot worse. Putler saw his opportunity especially with the West pulling out of Afghanistan due to the cost of it all and the resurgency. He thought the West wouldn't intervene due to the financial cost, but he miscalculated that the West knew from the situation with Hitler that the cost of bit intervening is even greater and risks them facing off against an almighty Russian Empire in the future.
So Ukraine is busy whittling away Russian power for us while we are them with the tools they need to do so. Bad for them with their people losing their lives but they never had great options once Putler had decided to invade. However, while it is the best strategic play for our part it is often course racking up the debt. Sure sind stuff comes from existing stockpiles but sending it over there, supporting the Ukrainian economy etc all costs big money. So the debt bomb for most countries in the world grows bigger. We can put it off by taking this, that and the other option but as you say it's a delaying option, at the moment we are at the delaying stage and that can clearly be seen in the EU with their economic actions. The UK is not a lot better off, our debt to GDP is near 100 percent now, at an almost unsustainable level. When the new government gets elected, almost certainly Labour, they are going to have to pay attention to that and chart a course forward if possible.
I think though that I wonder if you might be putting your own interpretation on the outcome Krim. Yes there is an Oligarch group in most societies, however the situation can be more complex than a them & us, rich Vs poor struggle. Let's face it the Gays & Christians are just a inhospitable situation. In America there are likely other groups that are far more hostile than the Gays and Christians. I don't know fully about the US ethnic situation so I'll talk about the UK situation. In the UK It's not so much the White's & Blacks that are hostile to each other but the various Ethnic groups that are hostile to each other, far more than there is hostility to or particularly from white people. Jews & Palestinians hate each other, Pakistani's and Indians hate each other, Blacks are in gang warfare against each other, etc, etc. I don't know all the hating and conflicts that go on I stay well away from all of that. They are just the broad ones I know about, these days I don't go to London much it's not nearly as safe a city as it used to be. The boat people can be indescriminately violent, not all but sound as are Muslims, etc. The number of rapes have gone up a lot with the growing Muslim crowd both home grown and from abroad, there is much told of it on the news and even moreso on X (Twitter) as they hide a lot of it on the main news channels to keep the peace (the BBC is still government owned).
So are people all going to put those differences aside when push comes to shove?
My thoughts are that while in general there is a rich & poor faction, there are also many other factions. In fact I would say people are more divided then ever before, it's clear in the US with the Trump/Biden, Republican/Democrat divide and hostility then all the other groups. In the UK I would say the same us happening, spurred in more by greater ethnicities in the UK but also far more divisions. In all cases I don't see people budging but more willing to say, 'to hell with it!'.
I see people willing to step on each others foot more often, more frequently and often I get the impression to deliberately antagonise the other side. We have it here between the different Ethnic groups, from many Religions & Atheists, we have it with the Queers & Transgender, with the Feminists, with some Scots & Welsh, Brexiteers Vs Remainers, with Anti-monarchists & Monarchists, with Socialists & Conservatives, etc, etc...
I'm not saying its wrong, I am party to my own beliefs & groupings and feel hostility to others if they come and step on my toes by trying to push their world into mine. I see it on this board often (moreso in the past when we had board members) of the rivalry and hostility between Republican & Democrats. This hostility in these factional groups is driving towards boiling point it seems, it's far, far more than I have experienced at any time in the past in the UK and from what I see in the US.
So... I can see the coming (economic) crash as bit necessarily a Rich Vs Poor thing, there will probably be some of that, but more a outpouring of hatred and violence between different factional groups. Stuff will get increasingly more chaotic potentially and break down as the economic situation weakens and the Government' as hand weakens. I don't think there will be an instant organisation and grouping of people but people will increasingly go out and do what the heck they like. The more people are unsettled by ending in a bad economic situation, the more they will say to hell with it and do what in their heart they really want to do. In the UK some people often illegals from abroad seem to be doing that as already, sporadic knife crime, rape, random acts of violence. It will all go that way I think people aren't what they used to be like years ago, some are, but many more are increasingly unsettled and factional with much resentment growing on all sides is what I see.
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the "bombs" debt, inflation, climate
it'll be a "cascading failure" that ripples through everyone and everything
the first domino falls, and knocks down the next which knocks down the next, until nothin is left
it's why I told ya to be a ju-jitsu master, UK laws on self-protection are very strict...
my urban equipment:
1. razor sharp dagger (I can legally carry a knife in Texas)
2. bearspray
3. tiny audio recorder - to frame my attacker properly for the Po-lice by selectively turning on/off
the first part is dealin with yur attacker
the second part is dealin with the Po-lice
pretty EZ for me to get the Po-lice to see things "my way"
cuz I'm a 'professional' and I know WTF I'm doin
and not some random civilian who has no clue
but...the police don't know who or what I am
they go by my appearance...and my ability to manipulate that
what color is a chameleon?
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Borgia moy!
Pootin was on TV yesterday and blew the WHOLE cover off the FSB operation in Central America!!!
and Russian ships are in the Caribbean and Iranian vessels are in the Gulf of Mexico
is also "drawing eyes"
I mean, imagine yur the poor 'malchick' who signed up for this BS instead of havin to go 'to the meat grinder' thinkin hey a pretty boy like me from Moscow should do well with the senoritas in Mexico City
so thanks to yur Moscow State Univ. Linguistics training yur running all the spanish newspaper stories of free money for asylum seekers crossin the border to "El Norte"
but now the CIA is runnin down EVERYTHING even yur little gazetta stories
the CIA contracts it's 'hits' in Mexico to a cartel they infiltrated and control
and so do the Russians
chorny v bella - cartels and intelligence services killin each other in Mexico City is the very fringe of 'The 100 Years War'
closer to home
don't have to fly to asia for the next war
and if Pootin has his way, you won't have to leave home at all
because now the Univ Linguists are workin on "La Raza" stuff fer all Latins
to make an American Chechnya
and remember, Pootin has done some AMAZIN things
1. seized Crimea by using a mafia as fake electors
2. made trump president by hacking Hillary's emails, and bribing FBI to release investigation story 1 week before election and "Internet Research Agency"
don't under-estimate him based on how badly he's phuqued-up in Ukraine
Putin is a SPY and not a general
how would a SPY THINK in this situation...?
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the "bombs" debt, inflation, climate
it'll be a "cascading failure" that ripples through everyone and everything
the first domino falls, and knocks down the next which knocks down the next, until nothin is left
it's why I told ya to be a ju-jitsu master, UK laws on self-protection are very strict...
my urban equipment:
1. razor sharp dagger (I can legally carry a knife in Texas)
2. bearspray
3. tiny audio recorder - to frame my attacker properly for the Po-lice by selectively turning on/off
the first part is dealin with yur attacker
the second part is dealin with the Po-lice
pretty EZ for me to get the Po-lice to see things "my way"
cuz I'm a 'professional' and I know WTF I'm doin
and not some random civilian who has no clue
but...the police don't know who or what I am
they go by my appearance...and my ability to manipulate that
what color is a chameleon?
They are, however it is legally possible to carry a knife or similar as I understand it in the UK if you can prove that you need to do so for your trade, or specific task, i.e a construction trade, clothes maker, fisherman perhaps, etc. Anyone doing so would need to look up the law and be careful as it is an offense to carry any object that may be deemed to being carried to be used as an offensive weapon as I understand it. Again the specifics would need to be looked into as I'm no legal expert.
In the big cities like London though knife crime is rife, many carry knives illegally. It never used to be that way, even outside of London you have to be wary of getting into disputes as you never know they might be carrying a knife. Back in the 80s I heard of a guy who was apparently carrying a machete down his trousers but that apparently was only because he got done over in the toilets for drug money. Knife carrying in the UK is now far more prevalent than it used to be.
A lot of people in the UK now carry knives for self defense, I don't personally and still the majority of people doing tend to. The problem with doing so is that there is a tendency for whenever a conflict comes up to resort to pulling out the knife and possibly using it as people naturally tend to go for the biggest thing they've got. If you kill someone with a knife then if could be up to 20 years or more behind bars, potentially over 30 years even, it's steep sentences on that these days, a kind of open ended thing in some cases.
I have done Judo in the past but it is not very street applicable. Ju-Jitsu I noticed has some similar Judo like throws but more looser and hence probably a bit more handy. Also some similar armlocks, chokes and strangles. Ju-Jitsu I notice has some nice wrist locks and other manoeuvres. I wouldn't mind getting back into Martial Arts, I'll have more time in my hands soon, but at the moment my schedule is full.
Krim, one thing interests me. You often reflect the use of money/wealth in dating a girl but if anything I've found the opposite. While I agree that the look of wealth can attract women and not just gold diggers but women that just like the look, etc and that could lead to dating a girl or having a good one nighter. I tend to find that the less money spent the better, if course turn up to a first date smart looking or a decent version of you, but if anything not going too overboard on the look of wealth front can be beneficial as in you know a girl isn't just there for your wealth. If say on a first date you visit the park and some other free or cheap attraction, you know she isn't interested in you just providing the most thrilling entertainment for her. If you buy her a cheap but decent gift then you know she isn't with you for what you can get her, etc. I personally find it more heartening being in a relationship where you know the girl is with you for some other reason than you. Otherwise I would always have the nagging feeling that, 'she's just with me for...' which would turn me off really, it wouldn't make me feel that great about the whole thing I think.
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what did I tell you???
http://x.com/i/status/1800618003978924293
Russian nationals with ties to ISIS in Los Angeles & NY!
complete with anti-Biden spin
I told you so!!!
this is one more Russian contribution to the 2024 "special political operation"
i'll be so happy when Russian political engineering in western politics comes to an end
Ukrainians are eliminating as much of Russia's air defenses as possible
why?
cuz they're gonna do "Jimmy Dolittle" raids with F-16s into Crimea and then Russia
it'll be interesting to see if Ukrainian pilots training in Poland will be allowed to fly missions from there to Ukraine and return
us intelligence is SO GOOD, it can tell ya how many Russians have untied shoe laces
all this intelligence is aggregated and this gets fed to ukraine
if there's a large group with untied shoelaces, they attack, cuz they can't run fast!!!
Russia hopes to destroy enuff electric power that kyiv will only have electricity 8 hr per day
cuz they failed at trying to expand the donetsk front
Dear SBU
a diver with an inner tube full of limpit mines could destroy the Russian nuclear sub sitting unprotected in Havanna right now
would cost Russia billions and the USA will LOVE YOU LONG TIME!!!!
REMEMBER THE MAINE!!!!
meanwhile...
President Biden's Truce Plan for Gaza is gaining acceptance
while he is in Europe lobbying for more money on Ukraine's behalf from euopeans, who are handing over nearly 2 billion USD next month from seized Russian assets
meanwhile, Donald Trump has a probation officer, and Republicans don't seem to have a problem about fraudulent pay-offs to porn stars during an election cycle,
showing the dangers of a "personality-cult" in politics to represent the party of "family values"
that's about as real as Disney is real
we should be EXTREMELY grateful that the "personality" in question, is one of the biggest morons on the planet
why couldn't Hitler have been just as stoppid, but NOOOOOOOOOOO
if Donald Trump had the intelligence of the average street hotdog vendor, the Trump family would be an aristocracy than would run America for the next 100 years
instead he'll have a choice next year of jail or Brazil
all because of HIS stoopid phuque-ups
he just assumed he's get away with it like he ALWAYS does
a moron who got caugt, becuz he's just not smart enough to know how NOT TO GET CAUGHT!!!!
well, looks like the cult is gonna have to go find a new moron to follow next year!!!
I hope they pick another IDIOT to lead them again!!!
hope you lemmings enjoy the cliff this November
I
Told
You
So
ahhh, I love trolling Rednecks..... thought I saw some in the distance....
PS you can have improvised weapons
a roll of 50p coins in yur pocket that you put in yur fist
a heavy padlock on a silver chain around your neck that you can swing like a mace
or
a straight razor kept incredibly sharp with a diamond sharpener
get an anatomy book and look up the arteries in the neck
this and the face
and strike faster than a mantis shrimp
BLACK PEOPLE in particular are terrified of this weapon
has great psychological impact
i've seen huge black dewds scream in terror
when cut-open by one of these
go for the "willy"
surprise shock tactics
then pull up yur hoodie and disppear
nobody knows WTF even happened
especially if yur victim is a hooligan
choosing a weapon. means you also have to learn how to use it
ot it's useless to you
practice a "quick draw"of yur razor from concealment
then a quick attack on the face/neck/willy
slice/dice and quickly walk away
I fear no evil, cuz I AM the evil MFer
Berlin Fight Club Oct 12, 2006 2 AM South Side of the Holocaust Memorial
2 men enter - one man leaves - permanent Berlin Poleizi patrol about 30 meters away
EVERYBODY was watching and I could see their surprised and confused looks when I came out so quickly
nobody made a sound
I left, and just faded away into the night onto Kaiser Willhelm Strasser and back to the Hotel
where my family was sleeping
they didn't know where I went
or that if I lost, I wouldn't have returned to the hotel...
that's how much Russia phuqued me up
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ruh-roh!!
chess can be a difficult game
sometimes, ya gotta look at moves far ahead...
Ukraine has secured over 100 billion $ just for THIS YEAR from USA and Europe alone (not including IMF)
every dollar they raise, causes Russia ten dollars in damage
and...
Ukraine is "showing signs" that it is going to cut the supply lines to Crimea INSTEAD of invading Crimea
there are 2 highways
2 rail lines
2 gas pipelines
1 big ass bridge
sea travel is risky, cuz of usa spy satellites sending videos to ukrainian torpedo drones
and the Crimean Canal system no longer exists so crimean agriculture doesn't really exist either
just feeding the Russian Mobik army there will be a HUGE problem (locals better hide their goats!! stalin's coming for the collective's grain again)
The damage to the Crimean peninsula from the loss of the Nova Khakovka Dam is evident from recent Sentinel-2 Satellite photos compared to 2022
With no reservoir to catch the seasonal rain and snow melt runoff, Crimea is left barren and dry.
in the last 2 weeks, maybe 2 billion $ worth of crimean air defense hardware was turned into scrap metal (for which i'd be paying "top dollar" in ACTUAL DOLLARS!!)
it's mostly local "mobiks" wearin the uniform in Krim
they're gonna be left to starve by Pootin
and then they're all gonna "go Wagner" on Putin's scrawny little ass
this is Ukraine's ultimate goal
to get the russians to turn against Putin like with Wagner
in the future there will be no tanks, aircraft cariiers
just drones
little drones
BIG DRONES
sailing throught the night...
Outwaiting Western Support of Ukraine vrs WMDs Focus Group is at the Four Seasons, Moscva, welcome sign in the lobby, greeted by tall blond hostess in a shiny gold dress with fake smile and hooters
the rocket's red glare...the bombs bursting in air..
if Fort McHenry had Iron Dome, the USA would've sunk Britian's fleet and then invaded Britain and been like the Normans and make everybody use the right side and spell "color"
and we'd hung the monarchy and everyone in the "peerage"
I learned how the average working people (my mother's family) lived in Britain in the early 19th century compared to the wealthy
and it made me angry
I'da been glad to "Pierrepoint" every single one of those bastards in the 19th century british aristocracy!
like wot the French did with little miss "let them eat cake" and how they got "ahead" of her at la Place de la Concorde
liberté, égalité, fraternité - and WHAT are the reactionary forces that stand in the way of this and WHY and WHO are THEY and HOW do we get rid of them?
PS
Russians just put an S-500 in crimea....
what a trophy that'd be
even Atesh could drone it and the Iskanders up in the mountains and the ammo bunkers to
use the "all teen schoolgirl" unit - the ones who make themselves look like typical Russian teen girls with pop-music idols, etc
in the usa small drone bombs use a new explosive called CL-20 to replace the venerable C-4
have those Tatari girls fly a CL-20 carryin drone right into the racketa's warhead while all the Russians are standin next to it!!!!
can you imagine bein the American CIA liaison officer for a group of young Ukrainian female saboteurs, after you blew up a billion dollar piece of Russian hardware
dang what a STORY that'd make!!!
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http://essanews.com/russia-escalates-ukraine-conflict-using-banned-poison-lewisite,7039546190034561a
lewisite
lewisite is just alright with me
lewisite is just OK!!!!
so many decades have passed since my chemical warfare training, including how to use the standard NATO Atropine Sarin anti-dote injector field pack
I can't remeber if lewisite was the one that made me vomit in training...
when I was a teenager, and I sniffed in the stainless steel cylinder and smelled flowers and hurled
after that, I could detect it in parts per trillion, "GAS!"
Novichok and Drones
the biggest change to warfare since airplanes
and in a couple of more years
it will take a giant leap
Putin sees himself as the dark lord
who leads the Army to Victory in a rousing Speech he'll give on TV
just as he fires off the thousand or so drones/cruise missiles/rockets he's stockpiled, lanuched against Ukrainian energy infrastructure targets
JUST
to exhaust and expose Ukraine's air defesnses and cripple the production of energy during the winter
THIS is in preparation for the use of a Novichok Blitzkrieg to wipe out Ukraine's military as well as a few "hostage" ukrainian cities tied to reprisals
after this, EVERYBODY uses Novichok becuz it's so damned cost effective
and THEN the Arabs FINALLY WISE UP, and leave the Israelis alone cuz the Jews have Novichok-J and they'll crop dust any rocket launching arab neighborhood automatically by a computer
while every Israeli has a complete chemical protection kit even for their pet hamsters...
for the past 30 years or so, all new construction in Israel has to have a bomb/fall-out shelter/safe room
EVERYWHERE
it's the freakin law there...
as well as having basic gas protection
now they know why....
who will use gas first, I wonder...
looks like the Hamas/Russian/Iranian plan to start a Muslim V West war to raise the price of fossil fuel isn't going too well....
it's just Iranian proxies who just lost all their radars overlooking the Red Sea, because they didn't have the proper licenses
so their broadcast priviliges were revoked by the US Navy
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I was very surprised when reading a WSJ article that the Patriot missile system requires 90 people to operate.
Can't comprehend what they are all doing.
Seems one person could operate the detection system, a couple of people to load the missiles, and a person to push the send button.
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anything made by Raytheon needs "an extensive maintenance crew"
it's the opposite of the DIY Ukrainian drones fighting Russian tanks
A patriot battery is a major piece of equipment, costing over 1 billion usd, like a Russian S-400
you got the radar unit,antenna, the command control center, communications, the rocket launchers
it has it's own diesel generator, you need a crew for that
food perperation, medical, + CO and NCOs and at least 2-3 shits
when it's setup a Patriot or S-400 battery looks like a little village in the montains with guards
this is why standing army's are so expensive, and why EVERYTHING will be replaced by much cheaper fully automated systems based on high-end civilian technology after the coming crash and world war takes down the military industrial complex
AI and Novichok
means we will not be going back to "business as usual" spending $820 billion+ per year on the military
after the current system collapses
it'll be a "brave new world" of Chinese Bilogical Warfare/Weather Balloons and foreign narco cartels infiltrating American business and politics, instead of Pearll Harbor
stop lookin in the rear view mirror to see what the future's gonna be like
it's in front of ya
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an iskander with a cluster warhead launched from the crimean mountains hit Odesa today, goal was to knock out electric power
it was in response to the ATACMS cluster bomb hitting northern Sevastopol a few days ago
once Biden signed the Military budget bill for Ukraine and turned on the supply line in early May
Crimea has been on the receiving end of major drone and missile attacks every 2-3 days, NONSTOP!!!!
the S-500 that was just setup in crimea was also hit today by a 20-year old ATACMS lend-lease rocket
Russia can add $600 million to the cost of the war, for an defense system that can't even protect itself from OLD American TACTICAL munitions
how well will their 50 yr old strategic defense system work against Trident Missiles?
Putin just sacked the whole top military management who were the top people managing the war in Ukraine over corruption
has he looked at the startegic military forces?
what if they're NOT properly maintaining Russia's nukes
cuz they stole all the money, thinkin, "who's gonna ever find out"?
meanwhile, Russians are storing large munitions at inkerman in historic sites so Ukrainians won't blow them up
partisan groups in Crimea are getting more effective
they started out doing simple sabotage, like train derailing....
they have drones now and the SBU has a smuggling route to Crimea to get people and equipment in!!!!
they have smuggling runs from the black sea to protected spots on the crimean coast with fast, silent rubber boats and scuba gear
so the drone attacks on the Russian radar and missile sites in crimea
will come from a crimean mountain valley a few miles away, insteada from southern ukraine
the terrain there is PEFECT for concealment
EVERBODY has had caches in the Crimean montains for YEARS, tons of stuff hidden away, especially by Tatars and Mafia
a VERY active place
it could've been dangerous to find someone's cache in the montains, if they had someone watching
I only found a hidden mafiya cache one time in the mountains, and when I was sure no one was around, I waited until dark and I stole it all!!!!
my wife was like WTF is all this? how much did you pay for it?
and I just smiled...
a single Iskander 9K720 if equipped with cluster Novichok munitions designed 50 years ago
and fired at central Odesa
would kill everyone to the east all the way to arcadia
and everyone North in Down Town
the majority of the city effected
just one
what would trigger it would be Ukraine cutting off logistics to Crimea to starve the population
cuz if the Russians DON't DO IT, they'll freakin lose the war, when the population revolts with food riots and it spreads to southern Russia
it's like if Ukraine puts Russia "in check" by cutting off Crimea
Russia will "checkmate" Ukraine with Novichok on miltary and civilian tragets
and laugh at the west's and ukraini's empty retaliation
otherwise, Russia could try and oulast the West's financial and logistical support
by planning on a 10 year war in Ukraine, if it doesn't have the threat of an internal revolt
and try to overwhelm them with new production from rearmament
and keep wearing down ukraine
putin has no problem sacrificing an infinite number of Russian citizens to maintain his hold on power
it's illegal to protest the war in Russia
this is why industrial fires have doubled in Russia since the start of the war
Russia is such a phuqued place to be in right now...
it's turnin people into "closet pyros"
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About half of the results of a search for the phrase “прощание состоится" on the Russian social network VK are military deaths in Ukraine!!
russians haven't gotten around to censoring this yet!!
so the ukraine war appears to be the leading cause of death of Russians...
not including the complete degradation of Russian health care caused by the war, which is quite profound, going from "bad" to "are you phuquing kidding me"
all because Putin and his kleptocrats have no clue or interest in how to manage Russia's economy - other than ripping it off and ripping off neighbor's property
cuz the only thing thieves know how to do - is steal, so that's their solution to every damned problem is to steal something
in other news,
The 602nd District Military Hospital Morgue in Rostov-on-Don processed 13,691 dead soldiers from just 4 military units between Feb 2022 and May 2024
and in other, other news,
a sturdy Russian babooshka found a big log near the road and took it home for firewood
http://x.com/i/status/1807360825314758952
so life in Russia, still goes on, despite the war
Russian autocrats are EVIL, and it seems like we can never get rid of them
cuz Russia is a "slave culture" and a slave culture always needs a "master" cuz they're so phuquing ignorant, they make this choice
so a master, accountable to no one, will always assert control over Russians, cuz it's REALLY the only system these mongol desendants know
once in a while, Russia gets an enlightened despot, but generally not...
Russians don't have the foggiest idea of how to run a democratic country, so no one bothers
only smart thing for an "enlightened" Russian to do, is GTF outta there, like I did...
but the number of safe places to go is shrinking rapidly and will disappear completely in the next 10-20 years
you will go to the rock to hide yur face
but the rock will be gone
and there will be no hiding place
no hiding place down there
all of us geezers, should not lament this...
we had the greatest period in western history, the post-war boom
but it's over
you will weap over the future
but you won't have to live in it for very long
and you should be REALLY glad of that
I can see, the emerging pattern in the numbers the treasury is posting, and what it's gonna mean
thats it's the "handwriting on the wall"
of things to come
the biggest empire in man's history
felled, by a handful of REALLY LARGE numbers
as i've always told ya'll, "babylon, she gonna fall"
as will all the rest...
the invisible hand of debt, is the hand that's gonna cut America's throat
but because it's invisible, no one thinks it's REAL
and if ya'll got a Russian problem in yur neighborhood, who ya gonna call then?
this is why infinite war with the west works for Russia, so long as there is no internal revolt
Russia is the trapdoor spider
and all things will come to he who waits
while the west is weary and impatient, and will become too overwhelmed with it's own financial problems to continue supporting ukraine....
after Russia wins in Ukraine...
it makes sense to take over Georgia and cut-off Atlantic Richfield's pipelines to the Caspian and get it for themselves
and then take over the 'stans to corner the gas market
meanwhile, the first Javelin missiles captured by Russia in Ukraine, have made their way to Mexico to train cartel hitmen for the "October Surprise"
it's all out in the open now, for some reason Putin is publicising this, google is yur friend,
Russians had the brilliant idea of using female convicts at the front just like the male ones with Wagner
a whole unit just got wiped out...
a smarter Russian would dress them in civilian clothes and issue an automatic pistol w/silencer
and have them escape Russia to Ukraine, kill a few Ukrainians and then return to collect their "bonus"
I can just see the "head of operations" getting drunk, and having a light bulb go off in his head
phuck, I'd be having so much fun there....
especially with all the Russian manuals I bought on KAMERA, the KGB's secret poison research bureau, that my buying agent located a former employee willing to sell for dollars and only to someone who could prove they weren't FSB
i.e. a foreigner...
either of us could've setup the other, and they'd have gone to prison
but this is how you learn
also, I have a get out of jail card in Russia, cuz of WHO I am...
i'm a tough talker, but I also carry a pistol
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The Russians aren't going to last 10 years of warfare, they'll be lucky to last another year if warfare. It looks like they will have about 6-9 months left before their once vast Soviet stockpiles of Armaments runs too low or completely out.
So they have either got to move before then or concede defeat.
Only other possibility is if the West matches the decline of Russia's Armaments decline with a decline in its Armaments support for Ukraine. This I think is a real possibility that the war will slow to a crawl and remain in stalemate.
The West won't want to risk Putler using WMD, Novichok, etc. Putler might be wary of a Western response to such use. Putler may prefer the war rumbling on slowly and going nowhere, he is old and has little to gain but defeat could be awkward for him.
Even with losses to date Russia's conventional Armaments are a shadow of what they were, a few more months of warfare will bring Russia's ability to wage conventional warfare to its knees.
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the USA has just now put out a foreign "travel advisory" and has put all US miliray bases on maximum alert
in response to what I call "The October Surprize" with Russian linked islamic terrorists coming 'cross the Mexican border with the Mexican drug cartels
a Russian artillery shell made by Russian peasants paid for in Rubles, costs Russia nothing, just some chinese supplied paper and ink for the ruble presses
the shell factory coulda been a factory for washing machines for some poor women in central Russia who do the laundry in a wooden barrel
insteada of makin a 152mm artillery shells for blowin up Ukrainian children
a Russian peasant killed at the front doesn't count as a loss to Russia's rulers, as long as he/she is replaced by the next patriot, and the next...
kia/wia don't really matter, what matters is how many ya can recruit each month, and as long as that number's HIGHER than the KIA/WIA, then eta horrosho!!
in this way, the war is infinitely sustainable to Russia's rulers
they can produce peasnats and cheap old tech weapons to arm them with for ever and ever
the ONLY thing that will stop the war are food riots in Russia
and if that ever happened Putin will have no choice but to gas Ukraine
the same way he had no choice after maidan to seize parts of Ukraine
or Russia would have it's own Maidan (which is NOW impossible to have in Russia, cuz the gov has protected itself from popular uprisings)
it's real-politik baby
all of this could've been worked around by a handful of people, including Dimitri Firtash, if done intelligently
but it WASN'T DONE intelligently
bribe Ukrainian officials so Ukraine joins the Russian Trade commonwealth, and then let Ukraine borrow 35 billion dollars it can't pay back, so Russia puts a lien on it's entire gas industry
and that woulda been "game over" for Ukraine without a war
half a dozen people to manage this, weekly meeting, insteada 550,000 military casualties
Exxon Siberia woulda been making big bank if things went this way....
and there woulda been 100 new Russian oil oligarchs
Putin "jumped the shark"
in hollywood, jumping the shark is an early indication of the show ending in the forthcoming season finale
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those who I told ya about
they're HERE NOW!!
http://twitter.com/i/status/1808618465986568452
ya wanna know what's WEIRD?
the UK has a national election on our independence day
and the USA is gonna have one on Guy Fawkes Day
coincidence?
THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES!!!
it's ALL startin to make sense NOW
ya'll better learn how to make aluminum foil anti-Havanna Syndrome hats also known as a Farday Shield
but if ya want a more stylish alternative, you can go copper foil (buy from ebay), and have a much more distinctive, yet equally effective Russian Microwave Blocker
the factory in Novosibirsk that makes those sweet Russian Gyrotons is goin CRAZY right now
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in my many years of experience in Silicon Valley, I've witnessed the "death throes" of several large organisations
the "dysfunctional leadership culture" I observed inside those dying organisations , is EXACTLY what I see in Russia now
Russian leadership has become disconnected to any form of reality
for them, here is no "there" there
just Potempkin villages, inhabited by Potempkin people
Russians are zombies trying to infect their neighbors to turn them into zombies
Ukrainians know better and shoot for the head
Putin's latest "Peace Plan"?
still a "NO GO"
but, as someone who has a LOT of experience in HARD NEGOTIATIONS with RUSSIANS
if a Russian lowers his demands, like Putin just did
then it means he knows he's NOW playing with a weaker hand
Putin made his new offer, after Biden's gaffe, timing is NO accident
cuz he understands perfectly well the difference between Trump and Putin regarding Ukraine
with Biden's star falling
it's a play by Putin, to get Zelensky to take the bait. in fear of a Biden loss
a smart move by Putin, but Zelensky is a Jew, and way, way smarter than a thieving Leningrad street urchin, and a heck of a better dancer!
and won't fall for this ploy...
but, I think it means, that with a Biden win in Nov
Putin will lower his demands again, and try once more
the more Zelensky kickes ass, the better his negotiating position
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with the current Dollar to UAH rate of about 41 to the dollar and recently sharply rising
you can once again buy real estate for dirt cheap in Ukraine....
i'd stay away from Kharkiv for now
but in Ternopil, home of Ternopil State University, you can buy a nice 160 sq meter. 2 floor house for about $50,000!!!!
http://agentiz.ua/en/for-sale-housing-residential-property/id-uacr3z
English is now an official state language of Ukraine
I'd only do this if Trump loses, and you can afford to totally speculate w/ 50k and not stress over it
easy, peasy for Americans to get long term ukrainian visas/residency especially if yur a "volunteer", ya dig?
Ukraine is gonna have a major population decline, and would be happy to get western retiress, just like Poland does
if this gamble is successful, you hit paydirt
when I lived in Ukraine, my monthly utilities were under $50, food was much cheaper and far tastier than American food, I miss it
it's more now, but still less than the USA
medical is spotty, no medicare fer you in Ukraine, anything major and you'll need to come back to the USA
minor stuff can be easily handled in Ternopil fer cheap, Ternopil is home to Ukraine's premeir medical university
the Carpathian forest, is the last old growth forest remaining in Europe, and is beautful to hike through
and you can fly from western Ukraine to almost anywhere in europe in under 3 hours non-stop depending on yur destination or even take a train, though the scenery ain't all that great
except for a few things, like goin 'cross the Rhine at Cologne, with the famous Cathedral Steeple in the distance, and the Hartz mountains
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http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-retreat-from-crimea-makes-a-mockery-of-the-wests-escalation-fears/
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http://www.themdhouse.com/top-rank-medical-universities-of-ukraine.php
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Biden's policy in regards to arming Ukraine, is called "incrementalism"
it's about being cautious instead of bein reckless
you advance a step, and THEN see what the russian response is...(endless empty threats of nuclear war)
and then take another step and repeat
this way you don't "overstep" and have a few pistol shots fired at the Austrian Grand Duke from a .380 Browning in Sarajevo turn into a World War
this is SMART as opposed to the policy of escalation in Vietnam, which was REALLY DUMB....
I LIKE politicians who have smart policies
Trump's policy towards Ukraine, is to give Putin everything he wants,
including the removal of sanctions, which would let Exxon Mobil drill in northern siberia, the deal Rex Tillerson was supposed to seal but Trump phuqued up, so now they get a second chance
Trump's policy isn't about peace, it's all about selling out Ukraine to Russia to make Exxon Mobil, Haliburton, et all happy donating campers and a new Trump Tower in Moscow
PS
BTW, on Saturday Biden and Harris will announce they're not running in Nov
and are being replaced by Gavin Newsom and Michelle Obama
the "D Networks's" Oscar winning Newsome-Obama show, will blow the ratings off the chart compared to the "R Network's" Trump Vance Dawg & Pony Show
and Michelle Obama doesn't have to wear eye-liner like Vance, another bonus
network will cancel Trump Vance Dawg and Pony show after massive drop in ratings
after Trumpty Dumbty's great fall, it'll be all down hill after that for ANYONE and ANYTHING connected to Trump
next year, you'll likely hear on the news, how Trump pocketed hundreds of millions of campaign money and moved to a 3rd world country that won't extradite him to the USA
all the right-wing attacks on Biden's cognitive abilities, ultimately had a positive outcome!!!
THANX FOR HELPING!!!
Republicans makin their focus to attack Biden's cognitive ability,
will now prove to have been a complete waste of time, and were even beneficial to the Democrats, watch and see...
just like the republican 18+ month investigation into "Crooked Joe Biden" became a waste of time and irrelevant
and was replaced by the "Slow Joe"one which will share the same fate
look on youtube for the interview of Newsom with Hannity, even with Hannity having everything prepared ahead of time, Newsom wiped the floor with him
Trump's gonna freak, can't wait for his reaction, Trump Jr. GF was once married to Newsom!!!
I love the smell of winning in the morning, it smells like...VICTORY
sometimes, it's not the play's performers you see in front of the curtain that are as important
as the ones you don't see behind the curtain
how do I know this?
I have the cognitive tracking skillz that you pure-blood white boyz don't have
and I see the signs AND can read 'em to
if any of you Republicans get the "sadz", i'm here for you, I will lend you my shoulder, I will comfort you...
Your Obedient Servant, Krimster
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Compelled by the calls of our defenders, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we, the authors of this manifesto and representatives of Ukrainian civil society, have taken the liberty of detailing these conditions. The world will never be the same as it was before the war, so instead of returning to the pre-war status quo, our goal is to look at what made the war possible and create a new, safer system that will completely rule out further Russian aggression down the line. Most of our proposals are within the framework of international law, and some seek legal changes that are commensurate with new threats to global security.
This manifesto offers a vision of such a postwar world and how to achieve it. We cannot achieve peace at the expense of justice or justice at the expense of peace. For sustainable international security, justice and peace must be achieved simultaneously.
This means that the aggressor must bear full responsibility for the war and be held fully accountable.
http://sustainablepeacemanifesto.org/
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it don't matter....
cuz history is always written by the victors
so victory is the only truth
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If Ukraine agrees to peace terms with Russia this year I firmly believe it will be seen as Ukraine capitulation to Russia and Russia will most likely come back later even worse for more.
If however Ukraine holds out until next year I firmly believe that Ukraine can win potentially a lasting peace, better terms and something that amounts in affect to Russian defeat. Russia next year will start running out of Armaments which will affect it's ability to conduct war on the ground significantly. Russia will also be running out of Money that will affect it's ability to purchase Armaments from abroad and affect the running of Russia and it's economy. That's a bad place for Russia to be and can essentially in affect end it's ambitions in Ukraine even without a peace treaty.
It all depends on Ukraine, it's leaders and Western leaders holding out that bit longer as painful as it is to avoid a result that looks like a Ukrainian capitulation just a matter of months before the opposite can be obtained that will likely put off Russian ambitions in the area for a generation, if not longer perhaps permanently.
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with the current Dollar to UAH rate of about 41 to the dollar and recently sharply rising
you can once again buy real estate for dirt cheap in Ukraine....
i'd stay away from Kharkiv for now
but in Ternopil, home of Ternopil State University, you can buy a nice 160 sq meter. 2 floor house for about $50,000!!!!
http://agentiz.ua/en/for-sale-housing-residential-property/id-uacr3z
English is now an official state language of Ukraine
I'd only do this if Trump loses, and you can afford to totally speculate w/ 50k and not stress over it
easy, peasy for Americans to get long term ukrainian visas/residency especially if yur a "volunteer", ya dig?
Ukraine is gonna have a major population decline, and would be happy to get western retiress, just like Poland does
if this gamble is successful, you hit paydirt
when I lived in Ukraine, my monthly utilities were under $50, food was much cheaper and far tastier than American food, I miss it
it's more now, but still less than the USA
medical is spotty, no medicare fer you in Ukraine, anything major and you'll need to come back to the USA
minor stuff can be easily handled in Ternopil fer cheap, Ternopil is home to Ukraine's premeir medical university
the Carpathian forest, is the last old growth forest remaining in Europe, and is beautful to hike through
and you can fly from western Ukraine to almost anywhere in europe in under 3 hours non-stop depending on yur destination or even take a train, though the scenery ain't all that great
except for a few things, like goin 'cross the Rhine at Cologne, with the famous Cathedral Steeple in the distance, and the Hartz mountains
That's a good deal and worth thinking about. The pound too is very strong at the moment against the Hrivna at about 52 Hrivna to the pound. A house in Ternopil would probably be at very low risk of being destroyed by missiles, drones, etc. No Artillery nearby either. Odds are that unless Russia goes for WMD's is that Russia probably won't take over Ukraine now. So it could be worth thinking about to take a punt. Thanks for the link and your insight in this Krim :)
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whereas...
in light of the possibility of Trump becoming President, coupled with Germany's announcement to cut aid to Ukraine in half, starting 6 months from now...
Zelensky's new goal is trying to reach a negotiated cease-fire enforced with NATO Peace Keepers in Ukraine to block Russia from trying to exploit it
instead of trying to defeat Russia on the battlefield
he's surrendered...
Zelensky wants to do this before the election, and get it in writing....
if Trump wins, this document won't even rate very highly as toilette paper, good for kindling though, wooden fires will be the primary energy source in Ukraine, so very useful!!
and then the war will be deferred until conditions (arms production) are more favorable for Russia to restart it
also, the issue of sanctions, if Zelensky wants "a deal" Putin will insist on this, but Zelensky didn't touch this subject
meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out the difference between satire and reality
when I watch scenes from the movie, "Idiocracy" compared to scenes from the RNC, one looks like it was directly copied from the other
Hitler had Leni Riefinstahl do his propaganda, which was some of the best ever made by anyone
RNC needs to watch her old films to step up their game
which ever party loses in November, will go the way of the dinosaur....
two will enter the ring, only one will come out alive
let them fight
if, at the time of the election, polls show Trump is behind, there is a new Jan 6 plan
but this time, instead of one rebellion, it'll be coordinated to simultaneously happen in every state
republican govenors will not oppose the rebellion
and then...
http://youtu.be/aDyQxtg0V2w
as usual, everyone will think I'm crazy (which I absolutely AM), but I'm NOT wrong about any of the major details
let's get ready to RUMBLE
PS
Krimster reveals, "How to kill yur neighbor's dawg"
Bill Of Materials
1. small syringe and needle
2. bottle of "liquid tylenol"
3. soft "doggy treats"
inject tylenol into doggie treats,
at night, out of camera range, throw treats in neighbor's backyard
24 hrs after ingesting, dawg's liver gives out, and "passes away"
variation...
carefully cut open the bag of doggie treats, and replace them with the ones enfused with Tylenol
reseal the package to look like new
make fake promotion literature for local pet store, attached to doggie treats
put in neighbor's mail box (no finger prints, do it night wearing black w/mask)
neighbor will poison his own dawgs for you!!!
anyway, ya'll have problems like that, ya know who to come to, right?
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after donnin a clever native disguise and entering the village of the Mohawks
Krimster has the following details to report to the White Settlers in "The Soldier's Fort"
The Mohawks are divided into two camps,
one camp on the "left side" of the village supports the old chief and Pocahateus
while the center and right of the village, supports Running Newsom and Ebony Mama Bear
whoever wins this struggle will lead the Mohawk attack on The Soldier's Fort
according to Tribal Law
the only question is whether Old Chief resigns as chief. If he does then Pocahateus is chief and almost assuredly the one chosen to lead the attack
But if The Old Chief quits the the race without resigning, then it's wide open and a signal of no confidence in Pocahateus
Tribal council will soon determine the winner
it's up to the Old Chief to decide, and I think he already has...
PS
White Boyz and Fighting...
helpful hint
if yur fightin somebody unskilled, their first punch thrown at you is ALWAYS a right hook...
heavy Tungsten rings purchased on ebay, 10 half oz rings on each hand, 2 on each finger, gold plated, stamped with fake 14k stamp you can also buy on ebay, tap hard on Tungsten!!!
better than brass knuckles, totally legal, always on yur hand
buy a punchin bag, and practice EVERY DAY
yeah, though ye walk through the valley of the shadow of death...
ye shall not fear, cuz ye can crush a coconut with thy metal fist
the secret to winnin ANY fight is to ALWAYS be more prepared to win than your opponent
Powder Milk Biscuits!
Have You Tried 'EM?
if you try 'em, you will buy em, Powder Milk, Powder Milk
don't forget to get your free parking validation at the bar, hope you enjoy the rest of the show
and remember, liquor up front, and poker in the rear
your obediant servant, Krimster The Half-Breed Scout
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In my opinion Ukraine have to look to hold on no matter whatever the thoughts are on who will win the US Presidency. Ukraine has to remember that the US President using going to be sworn and have any affect in until late January/early February. By then it will be near enough pretty much over for the Russians. The Russians will be running low on Armaments and Money by then. Interest inside of Russia in the war and winning it will likely be running low also and Russia's economy it's people will be showing the strains a long war places upon it.
Ukraine should have enough Armaments from the US & Europe by then to go on for the next few months quite happily in addition to anything they produce. Once Ukraine starts to run low on Armaments in the Spring next year so will Russia. The war will most likely slow to a crawl, each side dig in with not a lot left to throw at each other as they have been. Probably it will be like the Separatists Vs Ukraine before Russia's full scale Invasion. That's a stable pace of war for Ukraine to endure. Russia will probably start to lose interest and the war will drift. After a while Russia will tire of spending money on a war going nowhere and throw in the towel. Ukraine will win by default and Russia will go off and busy themselves about their own country's affairs. Russia will move on from Putler and want to forget the whole sorry saga, Ukraine of course won't forget so easily.
However, if Ukraine signs a peace deal before Christmas this year then yes I agree Krim it will likely amount to breathing time for Russia to learn. Russia's focus will be on re-arming to defeat Ukraine in the near future. Russia needs to be totally exhausted to avoid this scenario and disillusioned with the war. That I believe will only happen by Ukraine holding out to next year. All to easy for Ukraine to want to ease the pain this year when it will likely only lead to much greater pain in the future. Better to hold out that small but if extra time longer as hard as it is and gain a lasting peace.
Good words on the martial arts front Krim. A martial arts dude online who also worked as a bouncer I was reading said that the first punch thrown by a guy causing trouble at the club is nearly always the haymaker (likely right side). They have Hollywood illusions I guess of hitting home and knocking the their opponent out in one. However, as he noted the often long swing means you can see it coming a mile off and gives you plenty of time to react.
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Russians almost finished?
where do you get that idea?
especially when they've never been closer to victory than they are right now
the recent Trump/Zelensky phone call totally "spooked" Zelensky
he made his announcement, right after it
i'm sure Zelensky is briefed every day, what the USA's election polls say
without western support, how can Ukraine win?
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Russians almost finished?
where do you get that idea?
especially when they've never been closer to victory than they are right now
the recent Trump/Zelensky phone call totally "spooked" Zelensky
he made his announcement, right after it
i'm sure Zelensky is briefed every day, what the USA's election polls say
without western support, how can Ukraine win?
Though I'm not the biggest fan of Kier Starmer/Labour (some policies are ok enough, illegal migration I'll be surprised if what they are proposing will work) he seemed very supportive the other day to Zelensky when he was in town in London. I personally get the impression that Starmer was genuinely very supportive, I certainly hope I don't come to be mistaken in that. Starmer can be a bit wishy washy and can flip flop but I got the impression on Ukraine he seemed more solid and I hope that comes to realisation. Personally I feel that Starmer seemed more supportive than Sunak was and more likely to dig deep and give genuine help. However he is still a politician and I one where he can say stuff and it not means anything.
I think though that odds are that the UK is likely now to support Ukraine going forward with Armaments, etc.
The UK alone it would likely be too burdensome for carrying the weight of the war supply to Ukraine alone. The EU is likey to continue support along with the UK if Trump gets elected.
One thing the UK, the EU, Ukraine and Russia all share is that economic & military support for the war is limited. All will hit the ceiling of debt, spending, availability of Armaments to carry it on for too much longer period. The US is deep in debt too but it's military arsenal is vast. I firmly believe Ukraine can continue the war with Russia even if the US drops out with just the UK, EU, etc backing it. If anything it may come at the right time. If Russia starts dwindling in supplies and the US is still in the game supplying Ukraine well with Armaments frustration may start to boil over in Moscow. The Russians have to be made to feel that the war is potentially winnable and that they aren't facing an impossible task against US might so need to resort to WMD's.
If they see Ukraine's supply of weapons starting to dwindle as theirs do the Russians won't feel like it's a pointless uphill battle unless they use WMD's. There is more likelihood they'll press on happier in the knowledge that the US is no longer up against them supplying Ukraine with loads of weapons. Sure they may not be able to roll over the Ukrainians but they won't be feeling it's all stacked against them. That's a potentially good place to be for Ukraine, their winning strategy lies best in playing the long game. Let the war drag on and slow down on both sides before Moscow tires of the war and sees that there are other more pressing matters to attend to, it economy that's cracking up, etc. Once Moscow uses up it's Soviet stockpiles of Armaments and it's money funding new Armaments it's got little conventionally left to work with. Not long after that point Russia will probably get bored of the war that has no end in sight and give up on it. I'm pretty sure this is a realistic scenario come next year if Ukraine continues in the war as I think it should do.
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yup....
this is the biggest difference between Trump and Biden
Trump does what's best for Trump, Biden does what's best for America
The party will decide on a replacement ticket, it's wide open....
Newsom + Michelle Obama would kick Trump's REAR-END SO HARD, that it'll be wearing his MAGA Hat
PS, sorry fer bein a day-off fer warnin ya about Biden's announcement, I most certainly will endeavor to do better next time
Zelensky can throw away that cease fire idea....
but later he'll have the WMD problem to deal with
ruh-oh the Newsom/Obama ticket throws a big monkey wrench in Putin's Oktober Surprize!
ooh-eee yada yada bing bang
our thanx and endless gratitude to Republicans for focusing on Biden's Cognitive decline while ignoring Trump's
democrats can change their candidate, republicans can't, and THIS is why Republicans are gonna lose, come November
as Nikki Haley said, "if the GOP selects Trump, they'll lose"
HaHa
oligarchs just lost hundreds of millions in Trump bribe money
Powder Milk Biscuits - look for 'em in the familair blue box at yur local grocery store
Pow-der Milk...Pow-der Milk....
if ya try 'em, you will buy 'em
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yup....
this is the biggest difference between Trump and Biden
Trump does what's best for Trump, Biden does what's best for America
The party will decide on a replacement ticket, it's wide open....
Newsom + Michelle Obama would kick Trump's REAR-END SO HARD, that it'll be wearing his MAGA Hat
PS, sorry fer bein a day-off fer warnin ya about Biden's announcement, I most certainly will endeavor to do better next time
Zelensky can throw away that cease fire idea....
but later he'll have the WMD problem to deal with
ruh-oh the Newsom/Obama ticket throws a big monkey wrench in Putin's Oktober Surprize!
ooh-eee yada yada bing bang
our thanx and endless gratitude to Republicans for focusing on Biden's Cognitive decline while ignoring Trump's
democrats can change their candidate, republicans can't, and THIS is why Republicans are gonna lose, come November
as Nikki Haley said, "if the GOP selects Trump, they'll lose"
HaHa
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Yep there was a lot of talk but never completely sure if old man Bisen would stand aside, looks like he finally has:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e5xpdzkd8o.amp
Guess Trump winning against a guy that is seen as too geriatric will no longer be the case. However, it may be difficult for the Democrats to field a candidate that is seen as able enough to face off against Trump.
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Trump never won the popular vote, not against Hillary in 2016, and not against Biden in 2020
if Democrats make the right choice to replace the Biden/Harris ticket
then Trump will be buried by a huge voting landslide against him
which, of course means, he'll need ANOTHER Jan 6, to try and "STOP THE STEAL", i.e. some kinda way to block democracy from functioning, by phuqueing with it
this time, a democratic administration is in power, and the country will be more prepared to deal with it
I hope not too many white secessionists get killed or put in prison for attacking Fort Sumter after Lincoln becomes President
Clintons want Kamala Harris to be the nominee
that by itself, is enuff reason NOT to make that choice
Kamala Harris is a weak candidate like Hillary was, she couldn't even beat Biden in the 2020 democratic primary, her campaign was a total mess - AND SHE DROPPED OUT
just like Trump only got 40% of the republican primary vote
more Republicans voted AGAINST Trump in the primary than who voted for him
democrats, all ya gotta do is make one simple intelligent choice - and the victory is yurs
don't let the Clintons snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, yet again
Newsom, plus to smooth over black folks hurt fee fees over Kamala, Michelle Obama....who is, by all accounts, the most popular kid in school
this is how you win, screw the Clintons
as usual, the left side of the Mohawk village, will certainly try everything possible to screw this up
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I think you are correct Krim. I am not up massively with US politics but Kamala Harris has never been a person that I have seen as having the ability to be of Presidential standing. I would too fear that she is chosen as the obvious choice (as she is Biden's VP) rather than the best choice.
Sure she is in a high position at the moment as VP but I don't think she is best choice as a Presidential candidate. She's there as the assistant but in my view probably not got the quality to be anything more.
Michelle Obama on the other hand I have noticed in the past does come across as an effective speaker. I think you are right in her being a better choice for the Democratic Presidential Candidate. She has the Obama legacy going for her Aldo even though some may not see that as positively as others. I'm not saying that I am a big fan of Michelle Obama but that I think she probably has more potential as being seen as having potentially having Presidential ability.
Harris I think would be a losing ticket. I don't know how the Democrats choose now at such short notice. The problem would be if Harris just gets the nod on through without others getting a look in. I think many might see Kamala as the sound choice but I think it would be the sound losing choice. Surprises can happen but it would likely go that way I think.
Michelle Obama by contrast would probably look as bit of a wildcard but I think it's definitely a bit of a gamble that needs to be played here against Trump.
Trump, well with his VP pick as well doesn't look to favour Ukraine so that is not great. Possibly it might not matter as much as thought and while I don't have anything against Trump other than concern over Ukraine the sounder choice for Ukraine would probably be with the Democrats.
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Looks like from this that not many of the other potential candidates are up for it to run for Democratic Presidential Candidate:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/as-joe-biden-steps-aside-who-will-replace-him-13182969
The Ipsos poll backs you up Krim that Michelle Obama seems most likely to be able to win against Trump, possibly the only one that may do. However she has said she doesn't want it enough and isn't going for it
Will any of them change their mind who knows???
Maybe sone are waiting for Trump to see our a second term so they can be against an easier opponent next time?
My guess is that Harris will most likely be put in by default, probably the others song step forward or oppose. Unless she can up her game a lot then I am not sure that the Democrats are in any much better position than they were with Biden.
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http://crooksandliars.com/2024/07/ukrainian-partisans-kill-occupiers
can you imagine someone like me, on a dark moonless night, running all around Russia, injectin methyl mercury into hundreds watermelons in the fields before they're harvested
and then the next night, and the next, up and down Russia
it'd take a few months before countless thousands of Russians started dying
enuff time fer me to disappear in the jungles of Latin America, with my new identity "Miguell"
I could pretty much end the war all by myself with a few thousand dollars worth of chemicals and lab gear
portable gamma ray spectrometer set to mercury will sell more than Trump Sneakers and Bibles put together and that's just in Moscva
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I've calmed down now, I see the logic in what the Democrats are doing
the totally smart move now, is the VP pick
Pete Buttigieg would be a really good choice, Google is yur fwend
if yur in fer a penny, or even a farthing, then ya might as well go ahead put the whole Pound in
an Afro-Asian Woman and a smart gay veteran.... vrs Orange Man and dumb straight veteran
would short circuit the Christo-fascist(Trump Supporter) mindset
let's see:
African Americans 10%
Asian Americans 7%
LGQT+ 10%
THEN add all the various hues of white people who won't vote for Trump as well as Latinos
and a woman runnin against a very unpopular Republican abortion strategy, will also resonate
America once fought a war, to not be ruled over by a king
but they ended up with an aristocracy anyway
this is always Humanity's fate
I really hope there's intelligent life somewhere out there in the Universe
cuz gawd knows, there's phuque-all down here on Earth
the legend lives on from the Chippawa on down
of the old chief they called "Sleepy Joe"
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karma, is the bitchiest bitch ever, my dawg!
what genuis Republican could've EVER imagined...
that basing yur main campaign strategy as being opposed to having, someone you describe as an 80+ yr old crooked, senile criminal in the white house, would make YOU end up looking pretty phuquing STOOPID
what genuis Republican, in order to gain the approval of Southern Christians, decided to overturn Roe V Wade, and incur a 7% "ROE Penalty" at the polls, instead of just puttin up the 10 commandments in all gov. buildings without a penalty
7% is equal to the total asian vote in the usa,
add this to the actual asians, and latinos, and african americans, and LGQT+ and white libruls and moderates, and republicans and independents who hate Trump
basically make a Venn Diagram of all American voters and subtract evengelical christians
everybody else will vote for Harris
she will meet Elon's 45 million $ and up the ante, you still in Elon?
ya'll even dumber than democrats,
democrats are genuises compared to this idiocracy of yurs that yur so danged proud of
60% of Republicans voted against Trump in the Republican primary
have ya'll all lost yur damned minds?
Trump even lost the popular vote to Hillary...to Hillary!
you think a little boo boo on his ear will compenstae for throwing out Roe V Wade, or injecting bleach to cure Covid, or 34 felonies, or a civil sexual suit and fraud, fraud, fraud, plus fraud
dream on...
the ultimate self-own is when the conman cons himself....
didja all know that you can STILL see the rusted cannonballs stuck in the side of Fort Sumter?
think about that when Trump loses and tells ya dumb asses to go "fight for Trump", once AGAIN!!!
federal prisons are gonna get really crowded, already had a 1,000 new customers from Jan 6, some are still in there
i'll "bottom line" it for ya'll
Ukraine is NOT dead YET....
and if the Russians, they don't like it, they can all go straight to Hell
we're gonna put her feet back on the ground of righteousnes, and then...
God Bless America Again
I been warnin you white boyz about Trump for over 7 years now, 7 years....
didja all listen to me?
HELL NO!!!
oops, hold on wait a second, got a knock on the door
WTF!! it's that "annoying kid" from The Simpsons....
wonder what HE wants
Ha Ha!!!
I slam the door
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I've calmed down now, I see the logic in what the Democrats are doing
the totally smart move now, is the VP pick
Pete Buttigieg would be a really good choice, Google is yur fwend
if yur in fer a penny, or even a farthing, then ya might as well go ahead put the whole Pound in
an Afro-Asian Woman and a smart gay veteran.... vrs Orange Man and dumb straight veteran
would short circuit the Christo-fascist(Trump Supporter) mindset
let's see:
African Americans 10%
Asian Americans 7%
LGQT+ 10%
THEN add all the various hues of white people who won't vote for Trump as well as Latinos
and a woman runnin against a very unpopular Republican abortion strategy, will also resonate
America once fought a war, to not be ruled over by a king
but they ended up with an aristocracy anyway
this is always Humanity's fate
I really hope there's intelligent life somewhere out there in the Universe
cuz gawd knows, there's phuque-all down here on Earth
the legend lives on from the Chippawa on down
of the old chief they called "Sleepy Joe"
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Glad to see you are in good form Krim.
I'm no expert on US politics from what I have seen the over the years the US Presidential Election can be a little unpredictable sometimes.
In theory Kamala Harris, etc may appeal to those voting blocks and in theory it may be enough to swing it her way especially in the crucial states of Georgia, Florida, etc where the Latino, Black, etc votes could help swing it her way. Those working people of any racial background who may feel that Biden didn't do enough for them may be willing to give Harris a go. So it reprieves the Democrats of going in with Biden with the penalty of voters who may feel he didn't do much for them.
However, potentially there may still be the problem of exciting the voting blocks and voters in general to come out for you. How many of those ethnic & gay voting blocks are going to stay at home and for what reason? Reasons could be, not into politics enough to vote, social life, not the trendy thing to do, something else on, not energised enough by the candidate, likes the candidate but doesn't feel they have what it takes, or doesn't trust politicians in general to vote, sees politicians as there for themselves to want to vote for them, personally those that don't like Kamala as a person, those that don't feel she did much as a VP, etc, etc, etc...
I'm not saying she couldn't come through with the voter blocks as you suggest, they might come out en-masse for her or just enough turn up to push it her way just enough in enough swing states but I don't think this contest is necessarily done yet.
Either way I would want Ukraine to persevere and see off the Russian Invasion. That I believe really is possible if Ukraine just sticks at it and not allow themselves to be whittled down in a peace negotiation just for a reprieve.
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I don't know man....
I was like triipin out thinkin
what woulda happened if Hannibal instead of using War Elephants
used War Giraffes in the Punic War
then I was like thinkin, what'd be really cool is to stretch a big canvas between two giraffes
and it'd be like a big catamaran
and you could stick a couple of archers on that canvas
who gallop over the Romans, like they're gliding, all while shooting arrows at 'em
I really gotta get into rehab one day, just not today
what were ya sayin?
PS
Trump refuses to believe Biden "played him" like he was a stratavarius and is STILL campaigning against "Sleepy Joe"!!!!! LOL!!!! and Sharks and Batteries and ceiling wax
Trump is hitting up the billionaires AGAIN 'fo mo' $$$$$
oligarchs better hurry or yull miss out on the bribery sale of the century, what a deal!!!!what a steal!!!! HURRY!!!!
every fool in the known universe and his money, will be on Trump's mailing list for sure,
oh HAPPY DAYS!!!!
Kamala Harris will have all the delegates she needs to clinch the nomination, in the next 48 hours
VP will be coming out soon, oh wait he already "came out"
so Republicans.....
riddle me this...
if a brown woman and a gay man, beat the evangelical Christians and their most popular leader in a freakin landslide
what happens in the next upcoming election after Trump loses this one....
and all the rest of yur future candidates at best can only poll 1/2 as much as Trump
what then....
LOL!!!!
OMG!! my belly hurts from laughin so hard
yur gonna lose the house and senate too
you all drank the Trump Kool-Aid, nighty night, sleep tight
can we have a moment's silence please.....
ok, you can laugh again now
LOL!!!
the entire Republican Establishment, including media and donors, all got Punk'd by "Sleepy Joe"
day-yam bitches!!!
watch Trump start to monetize this
will he sell Trump Official Ear Diapers or not?
he already has new commerative assassination sneakers, imagine with matching Trump Ear Diaper, that'd be a REAL HOT ITEM!!!
Stormy Daniels and The Second Coming
As The Last Towering Trump Tower is being Towed
they shall put Trump's image on a cracker and it shall be their Eucharist
and claim That The Redeeming Blood of Trump, is the mercy of GAWD!!!!
dumb phuques...
dumbest MFers ever
it's why you white boyz should always have at least one jewish friend you trust, so you can ask him if yur a dumb ass
and he's pretty much always gonna say "YUP, YA SURE ARE BRAD"
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Well Megan Markle who likes to sparkle just endorsed Kamala Harris so maybe she'll bring the black vote onside.
A good jokey rhyme for our Beel there, you notice it Beel ;D
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a limerick a day, keeps sour BEEL at bay
Bullwinkle had to tinkle
he was really pissed
aimed his stream, but missed
Krimster, Resident Poet, doncha knowit?
Author of "The Silence Of The White Boyz"
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Bug Juice - Is it BAD for you???
I was lately reading a lot of extreme survival stories regarding "unconventional food sources" for emergency situations, and insects were a common theme
so i went in the backyard, and caught a bunch of random insects and put 'em in the "juicer" and got this greenish liquid....
as an experiment, I gave it to my dog, and it gave him diarrhea
based on the results of that experiment, I'm guessin ya gotta cook the bugs to eat 'em
fry 'em til they're a crisp golden brown, with a texture like the sun
with some of that gulden mustard
heck of a lot easier huntin insects, compared to Buffaloo...
and compared to a HUGE Buffaloo Rifle, an Insect Rifle will fit in yur shirt pocket
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sympathy for the devil?
after all, he's only human
and isn't EVERY human being flawed in some major way, and as ye judge the sickness in others, do you not become blind to yur own?
every man is a sick man
some call it "original sin"
without really thinkin about "the origin" of sin and it's genesis
Epistle from The Bishop of Chersonnes upon his discovery that Luciferase is Bioluminescent
just before he freed the Sea Monkeys and released them into The Black Sea, where they dwell to this day...
tell 'ole Pharoh, let My Sea Monkeys GO!!!!
I continue my pursuit of burning Marijuanna crops, plant by plant.....
at Disneyland they have a sign that sez "You have to be THIS High, to get on the ride"
and I was like, dewd, I'm WAAAAAYYY HIGHER THAN THAT!!!!
good times...
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Kool-Aid is a real "thirst quencher"
from Jonestown to Trumptown
every clown, wants to chug it down
to breathe no more, and drown
red state => dead state
according to the American Medical Assoc
states that priortized SAFETY over "business as usual" had MUCH fewer Covid deaths
in short, in God we trust, but the rest of you MFers better SHOW ME THE MONEY!
The estimated strong vs weak state restriction difference was 271 000 to 447 000 more deaths,
Texas Lt Gov, told us we need to sacrifice a few old people, to keep the economy strong
we are a government of the dollar, for the dollar, with liberty and freedom for the 1% to extract as much as it can from the bottom 99%
even during a once-in-a-century pandemic
Trump shutdown China travel, only AFTER major airlines VOLUNTARILY did so...
but chinese were coming in spreading Covid, through other routes that weren't blocked
Trump only acknowledged Covid, after a massive drop in the stock market, which concerned him, because it's an election predictor
Fox News and anti-vaxers are reponsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of their gullible viewers, who believe whatever BS they tell them
but they ONLY get sued, when they libel someone's business interests...interfering with someone's "cashflow" can't have that, now can we?
it's all about freedumb
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2821581?utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_term=072624
Trump lied while Americans died
you should definitely go vote for him again and again and again...
and expect a different outcome....
and if gerrymandering and voter suppression fails, and you still lose....
well....
you know what comes after that, RIGHT? (sound of AR-15 being cocked!)
Die For Trump!!!
Die For Trump!!!
those who live by a Trump Tower, will be underneath it, when it falls
the builder of towers, a head wound miraculously healed, professing himself to be the savior of Christianity...
hmmmmm...
very...interesting....
Trump should go live on TV, and read from the Book of Revelations, and acknowledge himself as the Anti-Christ
I think it'd give him a HUGE boost in the polls
he should snarl into the camera....
"I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious Anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers
And you will know My name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee"
he'd freakin get my vote FOR SURE!!!!
yes, Iran we are the great Shay-tan!!!
and we're gonna go all Spartan on yur Persian ass
without warning, i'd nuke, with ground penetrator nukes, every single atomic site in Iran, and underground production facilities
and tell them they have 24 hours to surrender, or there won't even be two stones standing next to each other in Iran
everybody else, take note:
you so muh as break a bottle in the USA, and this is what we'll do in response
still wanna play this game MFers?
within 5 years at most, Israel will have an AI silicon dome
that automatically identifies, targets and launches counter-attacks against terror in real-time without human intervention
it tracks terrorists the way a lizard tracks a fly
it's able to track individual terrorists to their private outhouse in a process of elimination
teerorists afriad to sheet, become constipated, oh the horror!!!
Hebrew Skynet Oy Vey!!!
after the existing international order collapses in the 2040s, Israel will use Novichok-J
this saves on regular munitions which are no longer being made and exported by Europe or the USA
new Scandium polynitride explosive lens technology makes for even smaller micro-nukes, the coveted "lunch box" model
biggest source of Scandium is near Dnipro, Ukraine....
there will be a struggle over this
Russia and USA both want it
i'd like to get some myself!!
PS
all you white folks, can't even see the references in yur own scriptures
whether they be biblical or the lyrics of Woodie Guthrie about 'ole man Trump
or the conman on CBS named Trump who wanted to build a wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuSkACnDpQs
your own IGNORANCE and stupidity are the cords that bind you
and not others who, unlike you, have already cut their cords
free at last!
free at last!
THANK GAWD ALMIGHTY! FREE AT LAST!
Childless Cat Ladies are the new "Witches" to be served up to the inquisition's noose
What Trump realized about Christians, is that their strongest desire is to punish all those not like them, in order to validate their own "goodness" contrasted to the other's evil
and Trump figured out how to "sell it to them" and monetize it and get votes and $$$
Trump is one of the smartest conmen of all time, instinctively knows who and how to con all different kinds of people, Trump University, Trump Cancer Charity, yada yada
combine with a huge population of uneducated southern evangelical Christians, and whadda ye get?
an orange shit gibbon leading a mob of hillbilly's to cut taxes for the billionaires
only noobs trade silver for profit on the temple steps these days, like corner dealers...
we got hedge funds based off of health insurance premiums now trading on margins
this ain't "no foolin around" with the ole "high purity" scam with silver shekels oh yes sir, the lord shall be more pleased with these, and don't forget to stop by the gift shop sir!
church<->megachurch<->gigachurch<->Trump
I am the Mark of the beast
who can genetically modify yeast
and, I can drink more BEEEEEERRRRR
than anyone else HEEEEERRRRREEEEEE
and...
I can beat ANYONE at DO-MI-NOS....
I can read the future, the way some men can read the sky
I am so phuqueing glad, that I'm gonna be dead as a doornail, when this all goes down
and there ain't no mortician good enuff to wipe that sheet eating grin off of my face!!!
I will be laughing at you for all of eternity
what a bunch of dumb asses
who keep doing the same stoopid sheet over and over and over
cause of death
he kept runnin up that hill
but never get to the top
cuz the hill just gets steeper and steeper
until he couldn't go on anymore
he thought he'd get a little sleep
he laid down, but never woke
Death of a Salesman
The Crying of Lot 49
whatchu lookin at?
don't make me go medevil on yur ass
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I have a hunch COVID was released on purpose. Basically people weren't dropping off like they used too. Stuff like Flu that used to see them off had become a relatively benign threat. So a new Flu was needed, one that was more effective. Isn't it strange how COVID is now not the big fear it was axcoyole of years or so ago, there has been no big resurgence as yet but it is still no doubt picking people off slowly and steadily most likely older people here & there. Sure the elderly etc can get vaccinated time and again, some will, some won't, but it will pick some off along the way especially as they get older.
I believe old people staying around too long was becoming a problem for societies around the world so COVID was created to counter that. It's doing what the old Flu used to do but no longer does. Old peeps staying in housing longer was creating an issue in the young being able to get in the property ladder and have children. Old people being economical inactive, unproductive, out of the work force for so many years was creating a problem. Old people surviving longer through repeated operations in hospital was creating a problem, etc, etc... So a way was needed to deal with the elderly, to get rid of them sooner. Global governments wanted their work force replenished with younger people and the elder were hanging around just far too long to suit global governments.
Now COVID has done it's work and will likely continue to do so, slowly picking of many people as they get older which is probably what was wanted all along. Only global governments couldn't just come out and say that they would have been uproar and objection on a massive scale to such a plan if openly made clear to the population.
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The shifting winds of war...
Prisoner exchange means Putin is not confident in Trump's victory and Putin fears America being run by a woman, he doesn't want to be Merkled or Thatchered, cuz he's a short little feller
in other words, he knows President Harris will project herself as a "tough guy" and this will make Putin look weak, so best to negotiate with Biden, and it gives Biden a win, and a loss to Trump
Russians are changing their tactics
from large human wave "meat assaults" to small partisan groups who ambush and sabotage
thanks to Elon Musk's secret satellites launched for the Pentagon
the big AI machine in Fort Meade, Maryland
sees the corridors through the russian mine fields
and hits 'em hard whenever they see someone making a run through it to the Ukrainian side
meanwhile every can of Russian sardines shipped to the front, gets tracked to regional transportation hubs by the very same system and it correlates, identifies and classifies
werry werry super scarwy
call out the MLRS in a hurry
first F-16s have launched air-to-air in Ukraine
they should call themselves "The Flying Tigers" and use the same insignia
and Americans will "love them long time"
if America needs to escalate, this is one approach, we have hundreds of old planes that can be made ready, and piloted by American "volunteers" who receive instant Ukrainian citizenship by Presidential decree
in case we gotta cross the Yalu River
us Navy could station frigates with latest anti-missile technology near Odesa and block Russian missiles
US/Ukraine are working on a naval drone for use against Russian missile launching submarines!!!
ATESH has spread all the way from Crimea, to Muslim population in Russian Far East
next they will subvert tibetan throat singers
so if Trump is not going to save Putin
and Putin is not going to save Trump
you can still save
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us Navy could station frigates with latest anti-missile technology near Odesa and block Russian missiles
Besides being militarily (and financially) overstretched, Russia cannot deploy any new battleships in the area. Since the onset of war in Ukraine, Turkey closed its straits to transit of military vessels whose home base is not in the Black Sea, under Article 19 of the Montreux Convention. With this move, which senior American officials describe as “a very important contribution to Ukraine’s security,” naval traffic has since been suspended in and out of this inland sea.
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russia has 3 cruise missile submarines already in the black sea...
and according to Mr Checkov, plenty of "surface wessels" with drones/rockets
with bases from Crimea on up to way past Sochi, out of Ukraine's reach
all plugged into the Southern Russian rail logistics system...
all aboard the RocketsRUS-Express
not as much fun as goin across the Caspian at night with Iranian contraband, while chewin on some bitter Taliban Opium
BTW, if the US NAVY wants to go through the straits, who's gonna stop them, Turkey??? Hamas???Houthis??? Hell's Angels??? Heaven's Demons??? a K-POP Band?
nobody
ain't nobody gonna stop the US Navy
They don't go Mid-Way
They go ALL The Way
this ain't Gillipoli MFers, more like Tripoli
President Harris is like "SHAFT" and she's a bad MFer!!! (HUSH YUR MOUTH!! BUT, I WAS TALKIN 'BOUT KAMALA!)
l'il mini Pootin
will get ghetto-slapped up along side his little Leningradski head
all you white boys better grab your scrotums and run, Forrest, run!!!!
there's gonna be a new god-damned sherriff in this here town
and you white boys are already gettin scared
and yur physical reaction to this is yur pee-pees are shrinking..."I'm melting...a black woman made my pee pee melt" and then you let out a terrible shriek
OTOH, mine is so big, it can collect social security a year ahead of me and claims my testicles as dependents and it lives in its own tastefully furnished apartment!
the secret of PowderMilk Biscuits, is what kinda white powder we use in the dough...
you just can't stop eating them
Now you can buy frozen PowderMilk Pancakes with President Trump's Image on each one
and make PowderMilk Pancakes part of your morning communion with red raspberry soda and partake of the blood and body of Trump with your whole family
What could be more wholesome than this!!!!
so, my question to you is:
don't you realize that yur all crazy!!!!
but you think of yurselves as being normal....
yur the most boomerest boomers who ever boomed
all I was tryin to do, was to show you crazy white boomer boys, the contradictions in yur so called thinking
you need to learn how to adapt
and stop clinging to the way things "used to be"
get used to the idea, that starting about 10 years from now, NOTHING is gonna be like it used to be
even Entropy is not gonna be as good as it once was
ok...
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so...did someone mention russian submarines in the Black Sea?
not only did Ukraine take out 4 S-400 Air defense systems today in Sevastopol + earlier s-300, S-400, and even 1 S-500 system
only air defense left is babooskie with shotguns, "Hell's Granny's"
they also sank a Kilo-Class submarine, which is a Diesel and not a "Nuke"
it was used for launching Kaliber Cruise missiles,
but now it's an artifical reef for minnows in the bay...
a $3 billion equipment loss sub+air defense
note same place, has an older shipwreck from WWII, visible above the waterline
unfortunately, not a good diving spot....
locals say it was German
I suspect, that this is being done to remove air defenses in anticipation of future F-16 attacks to cut-off all Crimean transport and communication lines
if Ukraine does this, it forces Russia to either "up the ante" or fold
otherwise everyone in crimea will starve
no water = no agriculture = no food
all the top level Russians as well as Ukrainians are acting as though they expect the war to pause at the end of this year....
I don't know why, is it BS, or do they know something the public doesn't?
was Trump, Putin's only secret plan for winning the war?
and now that's not gonna happen?
meanwhile USA and Ukraine, learned everything there is to know about Russian radars, including their MANY weak points
yalky palky
Russians are starting to evacuate Crimea
after the recent shrapnel falling on tourists in Northern Sevastopol, there's only about 3 Russian tourists per week coming to Crimea
in the old days, the local economy depended on tourist season, the way the USA depends on Christmas season, there are no tourists now
which is OK...cuz the locals all got drafted...so no more tourist hustlers...
all this, just to pursue Putin's dream of empire and glory
and if you disagree with Putin, off to jail you go
if it were up to me, I'd make it as easy as possible for "qualified" Russians to leave and come here for asylum
if Trump wins, I'm gonna apply for Asylum in Amsterdam...I can just kickback and smoke weed all day
Israelis would make me "do stuff" that I'm "not into" any more...so no thanks, but thanks for the Anthrax Vaccine!!!! and no record of it in the USA, sweet....
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so not only do Spanish speaking border hoppers do all the jobs that white people no longer want to do,
they also pay 100 billion $ per year in taxes for which they receive little benefit
in industries their labor dominates, like agriculture and construction, they keep the production costs down, benefitting the entire society
and as an additional bonus, Selma Hayak looking latin girls all wanna white boyfriend, so they can pretend to be white to!!!
and Spanish is freaking easy to learn dawg
source:
http://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ (http://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/)
so white hatred of brown(ish) immigrants, just ain't logical
it's being manufactured to play you white people
into voting for the billionaires, madison avenue knows "SEX SELLS" and so does RACE
but if you do that (low taxes on billionaires) the interest on the national debt will soon exceed the total amount of of all federal income taxes collected
what then holmes?
instead of billionaires paying the bill, you wanna put it on yur credit card?
who do you think's gonna pay that credit card bill...them...???
no, YOU ARE!
what happens when climate change causes food prices to rise...
higher inflation means higher interest rates
now the debt is an out-of-control chain reaction ready to explode
billionaires will be holding all the gold, while you'll be holding on to yur willy!!!!
this is not some far-fetched scenario of aliens or zombies
no, it is not
in numeris veritas
I modeled it in an Excel Spreadsheet to see what bond yield curves would look like...
good thing I have a Swiss bank account and can do FOREX and precious metals buys
I'm making a list of "enemies" in my neighborhood
after Trump loses, and there are MAGA riots all over Texas
I'm gonna sneak out at night and put Kamala Harris signs in my enemies yards
so the MAGA mobs will burn down their house
HA HA HA
don't ya'll mess with a Texas Jew Boy, ya hear?
cuz I will get YOU to phuque YOU up!!!!
16 yr old Israeli boys could put on military fatigues and hitch a ride east and get close to the Jordanian border
wait until night fall and sneak across the border on foot
"hotwire" a car, and drive it back to Israel
and bring it to school the next day to show it off to yur friends
and eventually you could sell it to some old arab dewd
and this is yur "phuque-around" money
pretty much everyone I know in the Israeli mafiya started out this way
before they "branched out"
Eagle and Bear or Moose and Squirrel?
The greater the destruction and the more systems that have fallen part… the greater the anticipation of the Messiah's footsteps
as Russia becomes more like America, America becomes more like Russia
I like cookies!!!!
COOKIE!!!!
The Bishop of Chersonnes described heaven as being like an endless cookie factory, of infinite variety
being tended to by naked super models
and you could eat the raw dough or the baked cookie
and it was very sweet
and because of my faith
I do not fear death
for I love cookies
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Previously on Crimea OU812
our plucky protagonists foced the evacuation of two Russian airbases in Crimea with Yankee and British mis-siles while destroying a Russian cruise missile submarine
in today's episode, a 3rd crimean air base has benn attacked, setting off massive explosions
meanwhile all Russian IL-76 transport planes have been grounded due to defective engines
Illushin management falls out window - it's why I always worked in the basement in Russia
better to fall upwards in Russia than to land ass-first on hard motherland
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Arguments must be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth is unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology.”
- Joseph Gibblet
why yur life sux...
Capital is using it's leverage to keep W-2 wage slave wages low (this effects everyone's income - even if yur not a W-2 wage slave)
while also grifting with politicial donations (free speech - corporations are people) to reduce taxes on themselves
this drove up the deficit, which will be primarily paid for by those same low paid W-2 wage slaves
then America's oligarchy will create monotized media platforms to tell the W-2 wage slaves that their real enemy is anybody who doesn't star in an episode of Leave It To Beaver
and that Christians will be given free reign to have as many inquisitions as they want
an autocrat needs to find someone in the lower classes to blame
and sell this idea to the classes right above them
the corporations took trillions away from the working class to give to their billionaire class
the American economy is optimized for the billionaire class to make as much money as possible
at the expense of workers who are barely keeping their heads above water
in 10 more years, the debt will be more than double what it is today...
and the social security trust fund will be exhausted
and either benefits cut or taxes raised to fix the shortfall of $150 billion/yr
in 10 more years, the interest on the debt will exceed all federal income taxes collected
while the rest of government spending goes on top of the deficit...every year
we just experienced the hottest weather on record (so far)
a large portion of the western hemisphere is gonna face a prolonged drought
which will impact agriculture
and raise food prices
which raises inflation
which raises the interest rate
which makes the debt explode even more
THIS is yur future
it's all there in the numbers
PS
notice how sharply debt rose after Ronald Ray Gun tax cuts
the consequences of the debt/dollar explosion...
means Russia should move towards a cease fire
while spending the next 10 years rebuilding their military
then when the west's economy collapses, start the war up again, but this time with no USA or European weapons
and this time it will be a short war
Russia might find itself better off financially than the west...
cuz Asia has an endless appetite for all the raw meatrials it produces, and it's a very broad market
and Russia isn't a consumer society(not now) to the degree the west is
so the profits are spent by the government in building weapons plants instead of importing gazillions of wide screen TVs for gopnicks
in Russia, it's easy to buy cheese, but not so easy to buy a computer any more, except for those crappy "Long-Soon" Chinese PCs
IMHO, instead of contemplating the ways and means of acquiring post-Soviet Pooty Tang
RWD readers are gonna be much better off being a "prepper"
and get yurself ready for the coming collapsalypse,,,which is gonna be 100X worse than covid was
if yur on the titantic heading for the iceberg
i'd stand next to the lifeboat wearing two life jackets and a concealed automatic pistol (aka my lifeboat ticket)
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http://youtu.be/Np3s8VZsKXc
http://youtu.be/CqjSR5OY434
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I wouldn't consider Kursk to be a separate front
it's actually part of the Kharkhiv sector of the war
this forces the center of gravity away from Kharkhiv
Russians are ALMOST within artillery range of Kharkhiv
about 50% of Crimea's air defenses have been destroyed
when Ukraine finishes this step
then F-16s will come and ruin everyones's day in crimea
by cutting off all supplies from mother Russia
in the south, not much action going on 'round Kherson
Ukraine is playin defense in the south, and offense in the East
since May they're flush with US ATACMS missiles
and F-16s have already flown first missions in ukraine
next year, the USA will push Ukraine into taking Putin's cease fire deal
by tellin Ukraine the expiration date on military aid
WWI and WW2 weren't two separate distinct wars, they were just Part 1 and Part 2
this war will be the same, if Zelensky takes Putin's deal, then Part 1 is over.....
and Russia focuses on rearming for Part 2
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http://x.com/i/status/1821806855305167241
day 900, of Putin's 3 day war to take Ukraine
what's left of a Russian column near Kursk, hit by yankee HIMARS....
first successful ukrainian air-to-air intercept of a heavy Russian helicopter with a cheap FPV drone
means it's just a matter of time before they start showing up at airports in the USA
Airports will soon need air defense systems
and passenger planes will be equipped with anti-air counter measures
corporations will have to pay combat pay for those who fly
the brave new world that you can see emerging from behind the eastern horizon
all our prosperity from WWII on was based on borrowed money
what happens to "la dolce vita" when ya can no longer pay the bills?
when the interest on the total amount you owe, is greater than yur total income????
and why aren't we talkin about this, instead of Kamala's race, or sharks and batterys
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The Kursk offensive is probably down to this man:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1006541-amp.html
Syrsky is an old Soviet army guy who has much training & experience and has risen up through the ranks over time. He was behind the successful defence of Kyiv and well as the soldiers involved of course. This manoeuvre gives me the impression that it's has his thinking behind it and now leading the Ukrainian army has the ability to deploy his tactics as he sees fit.
It's a good move and Russia are likely to have to move troops to answer it at sind point or it will be detrimental to Russia's war effort in general. Will be interesting to see how things develop in Kursk, maybe a major WWII style tank battle replay lol. Bringing up a few pieces of artillery may not be a bad idea, hammer a few of the cities around there to make the civilians poop their pants and go fleeing for the hills. Give them the same as Ukraine has had to endure and see how they feel.
It's certainly an embarrassing position for Putler to get into having Ukrainian forces now striking out into Russian territory and Putler no longer being the sole one to dish out punishment, it must be making him blush awfully badly.
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too many russian mines in Ukraine
OTOH, ain't NO Russian mines in Russia
ergo energo = it's best to fight Russians in Russia where you have much better freedom of movement to outflank yur enemy and wack 'em with Amerikanski abd Engliski missiles
aka "The Rocket's Red Glare"
also, note how Russians behaved when Wagner appeared
it could lead to a 'zone of instability' that starts to spread across Russia
Russia is a house of cards
just waiting to collapse
it's why Putin has reinforced "La Guardia Nationala" in all major Russian cities...more fodder that can't be deployed to the front, so ya need more "soldier catchers" patrolling city streets
Russia is a swell country (if yur not a young Russian man from a poor family)
side benefit: a Russian city gets torn-up instead of a Ukrainian one
Russians = pridorki
DA! let's travel together in big clumps
to make it easy for us to be spotted by American spy satellites
who'll text our coordinates to the Cossacks with American Rocket Launchers
Russians are worse than the Japanese, who also did stoopid stuff in WWII
Banzai!!!! let's all charge American machineguns for the emporer!!!!
OK...now let's hide in caves so the Americans will use flamethrowers....
Americans figured out right away how to take down the Japanese, who never were able to adapt
just like the freakin Russians
the movie MIDWAY shows you how American Naval Intelligence bagged the Japanese in 1942
TODAY, America is LIGHT YEARS beyond that
Russians can't even imagine how good US intelligence is in Ukraine
Russians and Japanese have been programmed to die, they're supposed to take as many of the enemy with them as they can
but it turns out, that with MODERN WEAPONS, this is a dumb strategy
Russians are fighting a strange beast they've never seen before
it's got American eyes, and Brritish and American Arms, and German legs and a big strong Ukrainian village boy body
and it's kickin Putin's ass HARD
and because of the top-down structure of the Russian Army, along with 100 other deficiencies, the Russians can't adapt either
the USA has learned A LOT about the Russian military from this conflict
and the Russians learned that if they ever fought the USA they'd REALLY get their asses kicked
so, that means, nothin but constant bullyin and threats from Putin spokesmen
"oh yeah...i'll murderize you..."
it's not really intimidating anymore
it's meant to reassure Russians when they start feelin inferior to the West
see how strong we are!!!! we can scare the West!!!!
ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz (yawn)
any potential that Russia and the Russian people have, has been stolen from them by the KGB->FSB
i've run my hands on the basement walls of Lubayanka Prison
and I felt the stolen souls
that went down into the drain below
the future has been stolen from every Russian
but they're too freakin dumb to see it
JUST LIKE the people in the USA
reality is always based on Inconvenient Truths
and that's why people instead choose to live by tacitly accepting the easier lies their masters tell them
cuz it's better to be a good prisoner than a dead or imprisoned refusnik
but the thing about slaves and prisoners...is that they make REALLY BAD soldiers cuz they have no motivating reason to fight other than to survive
nor do they cultivate the skills required, cuz they ain't professionals, more like an armed mob
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A great joke from Russia:
Putin, after 10 days of Kursk catastrophe, summons Stalin’s ghost :
Stalin: “What’s happened?”
Putin: “Nazis are at Kursk! My army is beaten! What should I do?”
Stalin: “Do like me 1943. Send best Ukrainian troops to the front, and ask the US for arms!”
http://youtu.be/odfigtA4olw
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Here is a report on Russia's current economic situation:
http://www.euronews.com/business/2024/08/15/russias-economy-the-balance-between-labour-shortage-and-military-manpower
An interesting situation. It doesn't look like their economy will collapse just yet but it's coming under increasing difficulty and is being stretched ever more by labour shortage. Inflation looks like it will become a growing menace to Russia going forward. So by Spring time next year Russia's economy could be starting to get into a particularly bad place and that's not good for continuing their war effort at the pace it has been.
This news report details the current military situation in the Ukraine War:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60506682
Russia is making progress in the East of Ukraine but at a slow pace and at great cost in men and probably loss of Armaments. Russia is running out of time so it's unlikely to make any big success there. Not long before winter now so Ukraine just has to hold on there and they'll probably be ok. It's Kursk offensive is going well and has probably taken slightly more territory than it has lost in the East with the Russians in the Kursk region being taken off guard and by surprise.
Russia seems to be chewing through it's soldiers quickly. I don't know about Ukraine it can probably be guessed not quite as quickly but still a lot as they seem not to be as willing to sacrifice troops as much having less available and are defending.
Even still it may be wondered if Ukraine will need to drop Conscription age again in the near future from 25 to maybe 23 possibly even 21 before a possible slow down in military activity on the front possibly next year.
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http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-retreat-from-crimea-makes-a-mockery-of-the-wests-escalation-fears/
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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Tovarisch...
Life is simple in Russia
it can be reduced to three basic details
the main purpose of the Russian people is to serve the Russian state
the main purpose of the Russian state is to enrich 500 Russian oligarchs
the main purpose of the 500 Russian oligarchs is to kiss Putin's jhoppa
and in Russia...this is all ye need to know....
Russians are "transferring" to OTHER PARTS OF RUSSIA further East anything that might be next on the list of ATACMS targets....
but ONLY after "they" (SBU,ATESH,CIA) took out half of the air defenses in Crimea, along with a Kilo Class undeseboat
it's a leetle bit late for such a move, shouda done it much sooner
but better late than havin 'em all end up on the bottom of the Chorny Moira
but even the Russian Far East is NOT gonna be safe!!!!
Proletarsk a satellite town of Rostov has had an oil depot on fire for 3 days now from a Ukrainian drone attack
get this...
post war, ya go to all the places Amerikinski ATACMS raketta were used
and with a metal detector, you dig up all the tungsten balls and sell 'em
russian missile electronics made by Mikron will all have gold packaging
so hunt those to!!!
post war
the battlefields will be full of treasure
and there will always be a need for "an explosives mafiya" in Russia/Ukraine
an unexploded 152mm shell has a $100 worth of TNT/RDX and it only takes a power hacksaw to open it
why do ya wanna pay all them "employment taxes" in Ukraine, maya sistruh
when you can be an "entrepreneur biznessman" and pay NO STINKING TAXES!!!!!
and when you wear those headphones all day
listening for faint signals coming from the earth
you'll start to "hear THEM"
the earth is tryin to tell ya some revelations
this is how I "got the flow" in Ukraine
I find all the things the earth tried to hide
Mongol arrowheads, nazi bullets, and turn them into Objet d'art for summoning spirits
you can do that in Ukraine, if ya learned how, from some old starooshka like I did
the stuff that somebody like me could do in Ukraine was just freakin mind blowing!!!!
once you master Ukraine, then do the same stuff in Poland, where it's 10X more!!!!!
it's INSANE there!!!!!
PS
Note:
America has a similar "oligarch problem"
but it's aslo different from Russia's
In America, the oligarchs are worried about a falling white population and a rising brown one, and how that's going to influence future tax policy
so to boost white birth rates, they're outlawing abortion
cuz the purpose of white people in America, is to keep taxes low for billionaires
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http://youtu.be/tvL7qPOCRoI
http://youtu.be/1L25PR4Df6k
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war at the wrong time
one of the lessons that Putin should've learned from WWII
is that during the 1930s when the west was in a financial depression, they appeased Germany
but...
when Germany started the war, the West realized the war would lift them out of the depression
oddly enough, the 2030s look like it will be a repeat of the 1930s
with the West being in the grip of yet another major financial depression caused by the "debt bomb" and other crisis all converging
when the west financially collapses, Russia will be financially insulated from the West's Crisis
and by then will have converted it's ENTIRE INDUSTRIAL BASE over to the military
so, while the west's military industrial system declines
Russia's is at it's peak!
however, while Russia is looking at the former FSU states for reacquisition
China is looking at Russia
The real problem Russia has...
Putin is an idiot
Russians should have hired me as "a trouble shooter"
my biggest mistake, I married a Ukrainian woman becuz she was a freakin beautiful woman (what a dumb idea!)
when I could've married into one of the top Russian oligarch family and been their money launderer and "fixer"
and wear the tatoo insignia of our "family" and I'd be on the Board of Directors of about a dozen different banks and hedge funds
the really smart move for the US to make is to "sell" Russia to China...
it would be much more in China's favor to have Russia's far eastern coastline than to have Taiwan's
the US should encourage Taiwan to nuclearize and that'd be the end of any idea of a Chinese invasion real quick
so China can focus on undermining Russian economic control of the far east
the smart thing for the Russians to have done, was to make the USA an ally against China
picking China instead, was another big mistake by Putin
Russians are having HUGE problems with Chinese banks and payment systems
and this is why they're shifting to India
Putin's daughter is the head of "The Import Subsition Office" and handles hundreds of billion rubles of contracts...
can you imagine having sex with her?
I'd be thinking about ALL THAT MONEY!!!!!
and then I'd look down and see Putin's face with long blond hair
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
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Russia has just fired more than 200 drones & Cruise missiles, etc at Ukraine:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvg58p0d55dt
Looks like they are after smashing the rest of what remains of Ukraine's energy grid. My guess is that they are looking to make this winter a tough one for Ukraine and it probably will be as there is not much left of Ukraine's energy grid, less than 20 percent maybe less than 10 percent probably.
Russia in the meanwhile I would guess must be getting pretty low on cruise missiles and the like. Cruise missiles and similar cost Russia a huge amount of money to make and use. So when they let them loose it's a whole big pile of money going up in smoke. I think what Russia most fears is Ukraine holding out through this Winter as they know that come the Spring next year they are screwed when their Soviet stockpile of Armaments runs out and any progress their armies make in Ukraine grounds to a halt, maybe even goes in reverse.
That will be a time when Russia looks weak and it's weakness will be exposed to all to see. If they can avoid that then there is a chance to rebuild their weapons stockpiles a little and turn things around. If they run into the period of exhaustion then things may start to fall apart quite rapidly for it. We've seen Russia fall apart in WWI so it may only be a matter of time that it can go in the war now before the same happens next year and thereafter.
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The Pentagon is carefully lifting its restrictions on long-range strikes into Russian territory.
The Pentagon confirms that Ukraine's military strike across the Russian border conforms to US policy; the US allocates a new $125M aid package. Deputy Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh confirmed late last week that the US continues to support Ukraine and that US policy "allows Ukraine to fire back to defend against Russian attacks from the border region," which includes Russia's Kursk region and the border in the Sumy region.
Meanwhile, on the eve of Ukraine's Independence Day, US President Joe Biden spoke with the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and announced a new military aid package. The package was provided as part of the US President's authority to remove weapons, ammunition, and equipment from US military warehouses. The weapons will be taken from Pentagon warehouses and will be delivered to Ukraine much faster than other military aid. The US Department of Defense clarified that the package includes equipment and ammunition for countering unmanned aerial systems (c-UAS), HIMARS ammunition, 155-mm and 105-mm artillery ammunition, anti-tank guided missiles (TOW), Javelin and AT-4 anti-tank systems, and high-mobility multi-purpose wheeled ambulances (HMMWV).
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this is the Pentagon's PR to Russia's PR
it means in the future, they'll privately remove these restrictions
and another of Putin's "red lines" will have been crossed
Putin is a paper tiger with almost no paper left
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since protesting the war is illegal in Russia
surrendering to Ukrainians is the new way to protest the war (and save your ass from western rockets and chinese drones!)
Russia has ALWAYS been "a backwards nation"
they only try to modernize after they lose a war
Putin's Russia has no Secure Command Control or Communications with its military
just like in 1940, when Russian tanks didn't HAVE RADIOS, they used signal flags
Today, Russia military uses "Telegram" for its communication
ruh-roh!!! Telegram CEO was just busted
can you say "prisoner exchange"
see...
I knew ya could
but first, tell us the root server password
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The conflict with Ukraine, initiated by Russian President Vladimir Putin two and a half years ago, continues to yield devastating losses for Russia. On August 27, Kyiv reported that over 1,280 Russian soldiers were either killed or injured in just one day.
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Putin has... (checks notes)
The SECOND STRONGEST Army in Russia and shrinking
Ukrainian/American Intel and mil-planners are shredding Russians to pieces, cuz Ukrainians don't have mines to deal with and they can freely surround Russians
meanwhile Americanski Spy satellites see every single Russian heading for the front and arranges a "surprise" for them when they're in HIMARS range
and pridorki Russki all travel densely bunched together
end result = a bunch of very dead Russians
mass surrenders are VERY upsetting to Putin and top officials
so that's the ticket, instead of a military coup against Putin
the entire Russian military should surrender to Ukraine!!
Putin doesn't trust the Russian military to handle Kursk, he put the FSB and his personal bodyguard in charge
so you know Kursk is gonna crash HARD
the name is a curse for Russians
KOOOORSK
it also looks like Ukraine is gearing up to open a new front, somewhere in the south
it might be psy-ops though
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another day...
another Russian fuel depot in flames
so "a gas station masquerading as a country"
now has to ration fuel!!!
and if you're not the Russian military, guess how much your ration is?
don't worry, city buses have already been sent to the front to carry ammo after trucks were all destroyed early in the war, they don't use fuel either
everybody in Russia walks now, no fuel required
2% of all Russian men between the ages of 20-50 have ALREADY been killed or wounded in the war and they also don't use any fuel
really, the purpose of the whole war, was actually to reduce domestic fuel consumption in Russia
one day...
a tiny ice crystal up in the stratosphere
fell to earth
and started an avalanche
this is gonna happen in Russia one day..an avalanche of anger and frustration
when I lived in Sevastopol, I lived nest door to a Russian military base
I befriended young Russian recruits I'd meet in the street next to my home
and I'd buy cigarettes for them
and I enjoyed talking to them about their life in the Russian military
they were just "kids"
I hate how these kids are being sacrificed by cynical rich assholes in their pursuit of power and wealth
the same way I hated it in Vietnam
when will humanity learn to STOP fighting these kinds of useless wars, all done for the sake of those who profit from it
if war is just politics "by other means"
maybe ya'll need to focus on "other means" a bit more...
Corruption was the door through which Russia COULD'VE controlled Ukraine
without firing a shot, and in 2014, Putin was 90% of the way to a complete ukrainian acquistion
before Maidan blew it up
so that made Putin take a big gamble over invading Ukraine and he lost that bet totally
and now his big gamble is "can he can outlast the west"
if he loses this gamble, he's DONE
but, even if if HE wins...
Russia will lose an immense amount of people and money
what's good for Putin, is not so good for Russia
Russia needs a leader that's GOOD for Russia
but Putin killed them all
so I guess Russia is phuqued, always was phuqued, and always will be
if you're Russian, the only thing you should be thinking, is how the hell do I GTF out of here
in 20 more years, you might be thinking the same way about the USA when it goes the way of the Soviet Union
most people can never see the forrest
cuz all the trees are in their way
the truth is always right in front of you
if you learn to open yur eyes
and see it
but yur gonna be scared at what ya see coming down the road
Bon Chance mes amis
yur gonna need it more than you can ever know
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everybody in Russia walks now, no fuel required
2% of all Russian men between the ages of 20-50 have ALREADY been killed or wounded in the war and they also don't use any fuel
All the women walking will give them good physiques and make them hawt ;D
Seriously though, even a 2 percent loss of men/eligible men I reckon could have an effect of it making it very competitive for Russian Women to find a man. Even a small shortage can feel like a big shortage with the knock on affect of concern amplifing a perceived problem. Not that I would go out that way for a woman I am really more a man for Ukrainian women it seems. Whether it's the wisest choice :-\
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ukrainian women have muscled legs that pushes their firm buttox higher
if you see a naked ukrainan woman laying face down,
you can bounce a quarter off her booty and it'll fly clear across the room
that's how "tight" she is
normally you only see stuff like that when yur in college
but in Ukraine, you can be middle-aged and still catch sight of nature's magnificence
slava ukrainia
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Ukraine has figured out that it's much better to fight Russia in Russia than it is in Ukraine
so a new front has opened in Belgorod
in the future Ukraine may try to connect the Belgorod and Kursk front
maybe it's a negotiation move, Russia occupies east Ukraine, Ukraine occupies west Russia
this offsets any "treaty advantage" involving territory for Russia, they can do a "prisoner exchange"
this was very well thought out by the Ukrainians, as opposed to the imbecelic moves that Putin makes
Ukrainians have been very shrewd
things are incredibly bad for Russian military now, I feel bad for my relatives
soldiers are being slaughtered and abused by their own incompetant commanders
it's back to "blocking units" to stop retreats
if I were a Russian soldier, I'd just take my AK and start shooting officers
what are they gonna do to me, put me in prison and then send me to the front again?
actually, the smart way to kill officers is during a fire fight with the enemy and use a grenade
we called it "fragging" in the US Army back in the 70s
the Russian military is an organisational "mess"
it's chaos and corruption
they compensate their lack of effectiveness by using cruelty
to their own people as well as the enemy
Putin rules through fear
Russians are like abused children who must obey their abusive father to avoid punishment
Putin can't have another mobilization
cuz the last one, caused more young Russians to leave Russia than were conscripted
Russians voted with their feet
so, if yur a smart gopnick, without education or special skills like speaking English, electronics technician, etc
then ya wanna be a "contract soldier" and get paid mega rubles
also, this way, yur in the "Regular Army" which means you have better support, then all the irregular groups who just get shredded by American weapons like Wagner did
this applies to poor kids who can't afford to attend college and get a deferment to age 27
or bribe local draft board to declare yur kid has bone spurs
in Russia you have to be a blind paraplegic to be exempt from the draft
so it costs a lot to get a document saying that
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Russia has apparently lost over 600,000 soldiers now:
http://euromaidanpress.com/2024/08/30/russo-ukrainian-war-day-918-ukraine-loses-first-f-16-jet-families-of-ukrainian-pows-protest-near-red-cross/
My guess is that Ukraine has probably lost 350,000 - 400,000 soldiers, possibly more but probably about that amount.
Probably about last month or so before Winter starts closing in out in Ukraine & Russia and both sides become frozen in their locations.
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harmonizing with a Ukrainian air raid siren...
http://x.com/i/status/1829207733696114853
almost as good as Trench sitting by the camp fire under a full moon with his feline sidekick
watching the shell bursts over the horizon, while he's playing a sad song on the harmonica
Trench's Babooshka Preservation Society
Delivering food, medication and COMPASSION
to poor lonely old women in Ukraine, who have been left alone after their families fled the country
and there ain't no samaichkee sellin jobs for them, cuz their ain't no samaichkee to sell
Mediafy and Monetize a-la "Bald and Bankrupt" yur Chez Adventures Du Ukrainia
this is YOUR path to REDEMPTION Trench
being a UTUBE Star
if you do this...
you will NOT have to worry about "picking up women"
cuz in Ukraine, these horny Women will PICK YOU UP,
yur an obviously wealthy Anglo-bloody-saxon volunteer who will need regular checkups for STDs as long as yur in Ukraine
and when a Ukrainian woman tries to seduce you
you gonna be like a "deer caught in the headlights"
before you get run over
or...
maybe you should just stay home, and watch porn
and go have dinner at yur mom's house
yeah...i'm pretty sure that's what yur gonna do
just keep yur life on auto-pilot doin nothin
or go have an amazing adventure
wot's it gonna be, me lad?
how many excuses will ya have?
yeah, I thought so...
Trench...
Go and get thy shit together...
the only opportunity yur EVER gonna find
IS ONE YOU MAKE YOURSELF
so when you choose NOT to ever try to make an opportunity for yourself
then you blame SOCIETY for not just giving you one
all for your mom's Welsh Pudding (with Beef Gravy no doubt on top)...
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http://x.com/i/status/1829803274439999622
a video of Putin goin out to get some piroshkie for lunch, cuz he killed Prigozhin who was also his chef
a convoy of 30 vehicles plus helicopters
paranoid much?
an FPV Drone with a shaped charge would make quick work of an old Volga armored limosine
and pin it on the Chechens
Putin has no satellites though...
ya know why?
cuz Russia's current rate of launching satellites is less than it was in the 1960s
Russia gets it's satellite info from western commercial satellites!!!!
but it's time delayed and lower resolution than what the NSA has
NSA has real-time tracking of russians and can alert you when Russians are in ATACMS range and automatically send data to launchers
the USA like Israel is headed for a fully automated battlefield where things happen instantly cuz fast AI machines make the decisions and not slow humans
meanwhile, Russians are sending mail to HQ and waiting for reply, but before they get a reply, American missiles blew them sky high
Russia is a 20th century military, fighting in a 21st century war
it'd be like a 19th century military fighting a 20th century military
and just like Hitler brought down Germany
Putin will do the same with Russia
the current system in Russia must collapse completly and the Putin oligarchy completely purged before Russia can ever hope to move forward
under the "right set of circumstances"
Ukraine could kill Putin and end the war
but they'd have to "grease the tracks" for the right people to take over
there's really no benefit to Russians continuing the war, only for Putin
so without Putin...
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Strategic Ukrainian minor city on the horizon for Russian forces in the Donbass in the East:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c984g10e22lo
Russian forces are just a few miles from Pokrovsk now with potentially enough time to get to it before winter closes in. Potentially Ukrainian forces can harbour in the city and take done protection from its walls which may help it's overstretched forces there. Russia as the article states are mid using Wagner tactics in the region sending in waves of soldiers to tire out Ukrainian forces and try to overwhelm them. Russia has the numbers but they lose many with this tactic.
Whether troops will now withdraw from Kursk to face the threat in the Donbass or press on in the hope of causing instability in the region to cause greater problems of Putler remains to be seen. They are apparently slowing in their advance now so perhaps now is the opportune moment to retreat and redeploy some of the troops to the Donbass. It doesn't look like Russia has taken the bait and redeployed a lot of troops over there and it's uncertain whether sufficient instability will be caused. It's looking like Ukraine may have to lower the age limit again for conscription to get the necessary troops it needs for the front. Otherwise the risk is Russia could break through and the whole Ukrainian line collapse as a result.
For Ukraine that is a very big threat and real possibility I think with such a long front line that Russia breaks through and rolls up their whole line. It looks like Ukraine needs many more troops there and many troops in reserve to protect against that from happening. Underestimating Russia now is probably the worst moment to do so.
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Trench, instead of struggling to swim....
whatcha do instead see...is ride on top of a wave
you let the wave carry you and do all the work
the war is the wave and yur the surfer
Pokrovsk and Kursk are connected
what goes up in one goes down in the other
Russians are now pulling troops from Pokrovsk to defend Kursk
WHICH WAS THE UKRAINIAN PLAN
meanwhile...
At least 5 targets struck by Ukraine today in and near the Russian capital:
- Moscow oil refinery
- Volodarskaya fuel depot & pipeline distribution facility
- Two thermal powerplants
- Gas distribution line near a powerplant
Russia is like a giant pimple that Ukraine is squeezing, to make Russia POP and all the juicy goodness comes pouring out
as Navalny said about Russia's oligarchs, before Putin had him killed...
"You have bad roads and bad healthcare, because they have vineyards, helicopter pads and oyster farms"
and I will add to that, "and yur children are dying in Ukraine to please the very same oligarchs whose children live in mansions in the west"
http://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/ftcms%3Aa7814b21-6af0-47b2-808f-dca973cf853a?source=next-article&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&width=1200&dpr=1
Putin's "Dacha"
Russians need to come out of their vodka fueled hangover and wake the hell up....
and we need to do that HERE as well, cuz we have the same problem
the world needs to de-oligarchize and not live in an Ayn Rand Dystopia where the billionaires run amuck like in Russia and the USA and end up destroying the entire society for their own greed
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Current enlistment age in the Ukrainian Army is quite high these days lol:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qe9ql8v95o
An article on Pokrovsk:
http://www.wsj.com/world/europe/the-last-days-of-pokrovsk-ukrainians-dig-trenches-and-say-goodbye-to-their-city-as-russians-close-in-425436e1
Good to see some Ukrainians helping out to dig trenches ready for their troops to fall back too. They need to defend this all the way, it may become another Bahkmut (i.e destroyed) but this time of more strategic value. If Ukraine can largely hold out here along with the rest of the Ukrainian line through the Winter then Russia will probably have exhausted its Armaments blasting Pokrovsk come around March/April time. There may not be a lot left if Pokrovsk in the end if anything but once the Russians are out of Armaments then it's job is done.
After that Russia is just down to throwing hoards of it's men armed with AK-47's and other small arms at Ukrainians. If they can deal with them well then all sorted.
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those two Iskanderrs that hit Poltava killing 40+ a couple days ago came from the mountains in Northern Crimea
the band of Tatari teenagers (and mostly girls) known as Atesh
are now focusing on them
Russian soldiers will see Russian looking girls in shorts
but they're spies and saboteurs
IMHO, a large FPV drone hitting an Iskander on it's launch platform
flown straight into the warhead and detonated
would take out the whole setup (warhead + rocket propellant = massive explosion)
at Inkerman, Russians converted a cave monestary into a missile storage bunker
you can't hit it with missiles
but you could with a custom FPV Drone with enhanced imaging flown inside
same as with Balaklava
at Kursk, Ukraine is waiting on Russia to bring in heavy equipment and reinforcements
when they do,
American and English missiles will rip them to pieces
and the spy satellites will even count the number of pieces
translate it into Ukrainian and sent this info in a dispatch to the Ukrainian Ministry of Phuqueing Up Russians
it's all a BAD DREAM
plohoi Russki Malchicy, no eat borscht late nights.
PS
Note For Putin (FSB scraping this website - please forward this DIRECTLY to Putin)
You need to setup a focus group that learns EVERY DETAIL of the US funding of the Ukraine War....
this is THE ONLY thing they focus on...
look for opportunities in how to stop it
now that the Biden assassination has been canceled, transfer those people into the US Military Industrial Sabotage Campaign
and do everything possible to help Trump TOTALLY DISRUPT the election in November
if Trump's 2nd Coup attempt fails, then ya need to ramp up the republican attacks on "spending for Ukraine"
keep the pressure on the West's politicians over this, always keep it in the media
this way when the West's economy has a depression it'll HAVE TO CUT-OFF AID, cuz of all the negative propoganda
OK?
if you had prevented Maidan from happening....
or simply let it "burn itself out"
and then go back to corrupting ukraine's leadership
you would've eventually gotten what you wanted
which was first, complete ownership of Ukraine's Natural gas transport, storage and distribution
and from there take over the whole economy and government
and bobmbard Ukrainians with Pro-Russian propaganda
the war was yet another stoopid mistake on top of even more stoopid ones
Borgoi Moy
and now Putin's dug himself in so deeply, there's no way he can ever climb out of that hole
so the only solution Russians have for the Ukrainian quagmire
is to just bury Putin in that hole
but grave diggers are hard to come by in Russia
so somebody else needs to be "encouraged" or motivated to pick up the shovel
normally, it would be the "Oil and Gas Industry" that should try to lead a coup against Putin and the FSB....
dewds like Igor Sechin would be one of the plotters
creeping escalation...
the Russian use of chloropicrin is exponentially increasing
it's more than just a tear inducer, it's a lung irritant....
this is how ya "boil the frog" with chemical warfare
infreqent use of chloropicrin - no pushback
much more frequent use - no pushback
a more toxic agent - ?
Novichok-A236 - ?
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why does "Right Wing America" support Russia?
well comrads...here's why....
http://www.justice.gov/d9/2024-09/u.s._v._kalashnikov_and_afanasyeva_indictment_0.pdf
Amerikinski capitalists will hang themselves and we will sell them the rope for $10 million
this is the headlines in Russian Gazeta
LOL
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ukraine's "new technology" is a thing called "Dragon's Breath"
it's "oichen classne"
it's a big drone with a specially mounted Thermite Sparkler that flies over Russians
it's based on classical Pyrotechnic "Fireworks" technolgy, but with a twist: it uses Thermite for it's core mixture....
it's lit like a giant sparkler, and it "dribbles" molten iron on everything below
it costs about $20 to make one
2 guys with a manual hydraulic press, some pipes and thin steel rods for the inner core is all ya need to make these + powdered aluminum and red iron oxide, and a liitle dextrin or glue
plus some general slow burning gunpowder, and the ignitor
high school students could make this
female high school students...no problemo...just get a longer handle for the press
Russ-see-ya OTOH, is jumping on the Chloropicrin bandwagon, factories makin the stuff are all on OVERTIME Tovarische...
ain't no big thing using Chloropicrin I guess, even though it be like ILLEGAL and all...
this is Putin, sticking his toe in the water
like he did with nerve gas in Syria
to see WTF happens
Like Nikita did in Cuba
#1 military industrial target in the USA are the Javelin Factories (which Russians have already hit one time!)
#2 the cube in Fort Meade Maryland
Russians are offering Mexican Cartels the Sky and the Moon if they supply "soldati" to them here in the USA
I warned you Gringos about an FSB-Sinaloa/New Generation Alliance
well...guess what....
I guess ya'll just blame it on "Sleepy Joe" bein' sleepy and all, right?
ya'll are SO DUMB, that a lot of times I WISH I WORKED FOR THE RUSSIANS
and I would've told Putin "Nyet" on the invasion...
and he woulda been able to do the deal with Rex Tillerson and Exxon
and the world would've been MUCH better
but NOOOOOOOOOOOO....
I had to run back to America, cuz I was afraid Russians were gonna put my jhoppa in a siberian prison that works on secret programs
I'da been retired on a giant ranch bordering a quiet cove on the coast of the Russian Far East that looks EXACTLY like Big Sur....
and I'd show the Russians how to handle the "Chinese Problem" they're gonna have when the Triads come into Siber
I'd show them how the US Army took over the drug trade from the Chinese Triads in the Golden Triangle in the early 70s
at first, I only got LOVE from Russians....
but then things went "sidways"
"my people" have been leaving Russia/Ukraine a long, long time...
for the same reason...
we hear the THUNDER of the coming storm
wait until you see what Russia is gonna be like in a couple of more years...
ain't gonna be no place for old men
sheeet, won't even be any....
a geezer like me would be super rare....
I could get a job in a circus side show
as a foreign geezer who speaks Russian, that's worth 100 Rubles easy....
or...
I play the accordian and have a dancing moneky
and we're both dressed as Russian sailors
ya know what?
why not do both!!!!
Why is Game Theory Useful?
Whenever a Ukrainian drone is shot down by Russians on the frontline, all other Ukrainian drones from the area swarm the location and destroy the Russians. This tactic has proven so successful that Russian soldiers just hide and don't dare try to shoot them down.
this strategy was suggested by Chat-GPT4
it comes up with 3-4 good ones per DAY!!!!
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My guess is that after Russia runs out of Artillery & Tanks probably around April time next year, 2025, they'll move to relying on high troop numbers armed with small arms, Kalashnikov's, pistols, etc to try to overwhelm the Ukrainian forces. The loss of Artillery & Tanks won't be easy for Russia but my thoughts are that instead of focusing on gaining territory, gaining cities that Artillery & Tanks are most useful for they will focus instead on draining Ukraine of troops. Russia knows that they have a massive almost inexhaustible supply of troops potentially while Ukraine does not.
So Russia have probably already figured that if they can exhaust Ukraine of troops they can potentially win the war. Ukraine needs to keep so many people in the economy to keep the economy from failing or that will do them in. So they can only move so many men to the front, I don't think they are near the point of exhausting their troops at the moment. It will probably be not until 2026 at the very earliest that Ukraine gets to breaking point, possibly later depending upon circumstances, could be several years even depending on the pace of the war by then it it slows down. Ukraine for it's part will be hoping on Russia falling apart. Russia with it's Soviet stockpiles gone, a bad economy and falling morale could be very vulnerable to those in Russia with some power taking advantage of weaknesses in the system to further their own ends. So potentially the next few years could be times of change. There's the off chance that Russia may eventually throw in the towel and end the war in Ukraine by pulling out but that will probably only happen when it gets pretty exhausted itself of never ending fighting, a collapsing economy, etc.
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Putin's management strategy
Russian soldiers will be flogged, until their morale improves
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Putin's management strategy
Russian soldiers will be flogged, until their morale improves
Lol 😄 that is a good one and I bet probably somewhere near the truth.
Speaking of Russia's economy it's continuing to slide with Russia raising its baseline interest rate up one percent to 19 percent today!
http://www.euronews.com/business/2024/09/13/russias-central-bank-hikes-rates-to-fight-inflation-fueled-by-military-spending
It's inflation is just over 9 percent!
So with both inflation & interest rates being high that will be having a punishing effect on Russia's economy and no doubt is financially ruining many Russians. Interest rates & inflation will likely only increase while the war in Ukraine continues as that's creating a big economic burden fur the Russian government. I bet many Russians now hope that Putin had never invaded Ukraine, their economy has gone bad ever since.
The only thing probably keeping Russia's economy going is it's Oil & Gas industry. For foreign governments interested in destabilising Russia that could be a vital chip to play with in bringing about Russia's & Putlers downfall. No doubt many in Russia in positions of influence would be willing to manoeuvre to get their hands on thd lucrative Russian Oil & Gas industry.
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the war has caused a 50%++ inflation rise in Russia
and since Russia doesn't produce much consumer goods any more
a big decline in that, since almost all consumer goods have been replaced by the lowest quality Chinese ones
with those kinda interest rates, how do you finance buying a home in Russia? it's the same interest as a credit card, can you imagine charging yur house?
you can't afford that, so you have to wait til yur grandma or mama dies, to get their apartment
and you'll have to fight like hell with yur brothers and sisters to get it
there's a big financial division among gopnicks right now
if yur in the war as a soldier or war worker, you make MUCH more rubles than other workers
inequality breeds dissatisfaction
Russia is a really unhappy place now
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the war has caused a 50%++ inflation rise in Russia
and since Russia doesn't produce much consumer goods any more
a big decline in that, since almost all consumer goods have been replaced by the lowest quality Chinese ones
with those kinda interest rates, how do you finance buying a home in Russia? it's the same interest as a credit card, can you imagine charging yur house?
you can't afford that, so you have to wait til yur grandma or mama dies, to get their apartment
and you'll have to fight like hell with yur brothers and sisters to get it
there's a big financial division among gopnicks right now
if yur in the war as a soldier or war worker, you make MUCH more rubles than other workers
inequality breeds dissatisfaction
Russia is a really unhappy place now
That's an interesting update on the situation inside Russia Krim, thank you it is most appreciated :)
I imagine for those that wish to brave it, Russia can be a good hunting ground also for WM seeking a FSW at the moment with the economy that way. I guess for some western men a bit of a toss up on where to go for a FSW, Russia or Ukraine? 🤔
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IMHO, it's too dangerous to be a westerner in Russia at the moment, plus yur western credit cards don't work, so ya gotta get a Chinese one like UnionPay
biggest danger is from young "hooligans" picking a fight with you cuz yur a foreigner
and their social status will improve if they play "the knockout game" with your gullivar
Russian public transport is FAR more dangerous to a foreigner than the New York City Subway
Russian militsa will ignore any violence towards you, or even blame you
OTOH, in Ukraine, the exact opposite...
then on top of the Hooligan issue, there's "the militsa" issue
Russian cops will ALWAYS phuque with you, Ukrainian cops will leave you alone, even help you...
and lastly, the Russian security services....
depending on yur background you can get interviewed by either the FSB or GRU (I had the GRU, cuz my background is "technical" so it's EASIER than the FSB interview + i'm a russo-phile)
if you were in a "sensitive" position in the western military or military industrial complex, Russians will KNOW about it, and ask why you didn't put it on yur visa application
and then threaten you with a siberian prison for illegal entry to Russia....
unless you tell them about Raytheon and Iron Dome....
if I wasn't so afraid of ending up having to work in a Russian prison, I could easily make some serious money right now, for the "Electronic Counter Measures" I could sell to Russians
and banned tech from export scams
but Russia is way too phuqued up right now which greatly increases the risk of "doing bizness" there, not to even mention the ruble-to-dollar hassle, so ya gotta go bitcoin
you can't turn yur back on anyone there, for even a micro-second, mothers sell-out their sons routinely in Russia, a family betrayal really sux in Russia
it's a hard knock life
it's no country for old men like me
and I am someone who is QUITE proficient at protecting myself in all dimensions, having been trained by not one, but two militaries
but when ya play russian roulette, probability theory sez that sometimes pistolet does in fact go BOOM and make a mess!!!
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Former MP Alexander Nevzorov. Some of this is just an understanding of history. Some is an understanding of how the Russian state works (or doesn't).
http://youtu.be/OutvYSl_TLc
Finally saw Nevzorov in person in San Francisco. What an impressive man! He is doing a US tour right now
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Well the Russians are running out of time to take Pokrovsk before Winter sets in. They're not going to be able to do it and instead will face a winter outside the city where they will bombard it with Artillery further than they have already done so and pound it to dust like those they have done do with before:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/23/7476371/index.amp
Only problem for Russia is that by the time they have destroyed Pokrovsk with Artillery winter will be almost over but so will their Soviet stockpiles of Artillery and likely their stockpile of tanks as well.
That's a problem for Russia as it will take away it's ability to eventually win Ukrainian cities by demolishing them will Artillery. It's going to stunt Russia's offensive capability and it may even effect it's defensive capability somewhat also. Russia will likely then switch to superiority of numbers and small arms, AK47s, pistols, etc. If I were Ukraine I would expect Russia to build up it's troop numbers over this Winter like it did last Winter but even more so. Ukraine will need to answer a likely switch by Russia to even greater troop numbers as Russia's supply of Soviet Artillery & Tanks comes to an end.
If Ukraine can answer that build up of Russian troops numbers by Summer next year then I think after that Russia will likely slow down in its offensive advances and go more towards defensive. The whole front line will likely slow in action from then on and go into a stalemate situation. If Ukraine is still backed by the West enough Ukraine may even gain the upper hand. Potentially the West look like they may be interested in strengthening Ukraine's hand as Putler's hand gets weaker which will weaken Russia still further.
Toropets was no doubt useful to Ukraine, the effect of weakening Russia's ability to fight on the front may show in the coming weeks as the shortfall in Arms & Armaments from it takes it's toll.
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Toroptes was just the beginning, more followed, and even more to come
cuz a whole bunch of targets that were "off limits"
are now in play, and Russians were completely unprepared
this is bad news for EVERYBODY'S air defensive systems
cuz it means that with enuff drones, you can overcome ANY air defense
Israel and USA should pay attention
there won't be any move by Ukraine in the south, without first taking out the Kerch bridge
it looks like they got something up their sleeve goin on in the south, dunno, their security is WAY tight
the dynamics of the war will dramatically change depending on the outcome of the US election, on Nov 5....
don't worry, GOD, put me on this earth, for just one reason
and that is to nullify BEEL'S Trump vote on Nov 5....
just remeber BEEL, it was me, I want ya to know, it was ME....
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In the midst of all this worry over where the Ukraine war is going it appears that at least AFA are keeping in touch with reality ;D Appears they have started up their Romance Tours again for Ukraine, albeit on a smaller scale:
http://loveme.com/tour/order/order.shtml
Always fancied going in for one for a bit of a laugh but at present money a bit pricey probably better things I can do with that money.
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UK keeping up it's supply of Armaments to Ukraine:
http://euromaidanpress.com/2024/09/26/uk-to-speed-up-self-propelled-howitzer-deliveries-to-ukraine/
These pieces probably take out many times their number of Russian Soviet Artillery pieces as they can strike a lot further and move once fired. Eventually they are probably lost from drones, etc but not before Russian forces are depleted by many times their number.
April next year will see Ukraine with such artillery and the Russians without lol.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-154_Joint_Standoff_Weapon
Ukraine just got a lot of these, the equivalent of Russian glide bombs
using these, means Ukraine has to get rid of S-300 or S-400 air defenses
like using the 100 plane drone swarm that took out Toropets (where most of the S300 and S-400 missiles were stored
and take out the airdefenses around the Kerch bridge, THEN hit it with long range glide bombs from high altitude from within Ukraine
then cut-off all roads (only 3 major highways I think), electricity, gas, communications, put mines all around the ports like Sevastopol
Russians would be doing a Holodomor Reneactment Festival, Free Parking!!!
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would you like to play a game?
how about Nuclear Chess
Ist move to Russia
http://x.com/i/status/1839036040423547089
excellent move, a small amount of polite applause from the audience
next, Ukraine's counter move
http://x.com/i/status/1838969133133684769
EXCELLENT MOVE!!!!!
thank you for supporting Nuclear Chess Highlights of the Week
sure is a shame the Satan-2 missile blew up on the test launch pad like that....(starts whistling and walking away)
but still nothing can quite compare to the beauty on the shoreline of Lake Toropets
which has excellent agricultural potential due to being "naturally fertilized"
and for fun, stop by the "Archie Bunker" and kopeet one of them Balticas, I think it was chitiry, the one I liked
but that was like 2 million bong hits ago
you coulda gone to the Tungusta impact site with a good metal detector and pick up 10s of kilos of iron meteorites per day, worth thousands of $$
big mosquito problem
the only way I figured out how to beat them was a beekeeper's attire
DEET spray, jut reduces but doesn't eliminate
in summer time, watch out for fires, nobody around to put them out now, but also nobody lookin over your shoulder either
like tourist season without any tourists this season
cookies and pie are nice, especially if they are served on a red table cloth, don't you all agree?
well...of course....you do....
a deep...burgundy red....
lit by a single candle
I am an aristocrat, I can have any kind of table cloth that tickles my fancy, so long as it matches the curtains, doncha know....
oh yes....
EVERYTHING I write here, is like it was part of the Gospel of St Krimster my friends
and I would NEVER, NEVER embellish a SINGLE item
I mean because otherwise, it'd mean I SPENT YEARS writing total BS on this board just to troll people
and nothing really more than that
ahe, ahe, said the Troll
This IS MY Bridge
and you gotta pay me a toll
for I shall amuse myself at your expense
hope you can afford it
nor do I care, what names you call me
what could you possibly say that could ever hurt a Troll's feelings?
your complaints are simply not worthy of consideration
becuz every accusation you make against me, is actually your own confession
Edgar Allen Poe is my councilor....
he knows all the dark corners
and it is HE, who guides me
he really did love Annabelle Lee obsessively
there is a fine line between genuis and madness
I totally know which side of the border i'm on
but do YOU?
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Talk in the media and elsewhere has seemingly picked up of NATO countries potentially soon ending up at war with Russia. Who will declare war on who first is difficult to say. Will Russia end up using Nukes in Ukraine in order to win the war, Gas or Novichok in big quantities?
Will NATO respond by declaring war or getting involved in Ukraine to avoid an obvious Ukrainian defeat in such a scenario?
What is NATO's response to a potential Nuclear, etc threat from Russia in Ukraine?
It has been said by you Krim that when Putler is facing a checkmate situation he goes to check his opponent. Could he feel that he is nearing that checkmate position now? Pokrovsk is likely to be where he runs out of Artillery & Tanks over the Winter that puts his forces in a much more difficult position come Spring, the Ukrainians will have such equipment, Russia no longer will. Then there is Russia potentially being hit by long range missiles, any such ability by Ukraine to do that will cripple Russia's ability to wage war and make it seriously weakened.
So is Putler going to use dirty tricks like Nukes or hitting Nuclear Power Plants in Ukraine to head that off?
Already many people in the West have shown that they are against going to war themselves should any war arise with Russia or elsewhere, like Shadow and Myself. Unlike Shadow though I don't see moving to Russia as the answer.
So where's this all heading?
It was said that Putler when faced with a losing hand may resort to Nukes/Neutron bombs, etc from around this point onwards. Potentially so long as not seemingly facing an imminent defeat he may struggle on after Soviet Stockpiles are exhausted with just more ground troops than ever before but things likely get far more difficult for Russia to continue after it's stockpiles are exhausted.
I think the big Elephant in the room that many may have overlooked is the effect on Russia's integrity as a State once it's stockpiles of Artillery & Tanks are exhausted and it's war planes run low. It may seem not a big issue but potentially it's this equipment that helps to hold Russia together and stop the Regions that make up Russia from rebelling and breaking away. If there are no Tanks & Artillery etc to send in, particularly in overwhelming quantity then many of those regions of Russia suddenly become a lot more freer to break away. Any Regional Governor and Regional Parliament feeling like power for themselves would benefit them could then move to break away. If I were a Western Government I would help support such moves with equipment, finance and anything else needed. Putler would then have a major headache at hand and if could strip Russia of a lot of power and again ability to wage war. It would certainly be an interesting outlook to no longer have a big mighty Russia covering vast territory across the continent.
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the media is used by both sides to play the game
ignore the disinformatse
because the more the people of Ukrraine kick Putin's ass
the more Putin squeals about nuclear weapons
Putin's biggest fear, is that if Ukrainian peasants and their tractors are winning
Russian peasants might notice and start thinking about it
and it might put an end to all the grift that the oligarchs have been stealing from the people of Russia AND Ukraine
this is why, everybody is dying in Russia and Ukraine
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besides...smart money is on Novichok
nuclear is a red line and leaves permanent radiological damage that will even migrate back to Russia
Novichok just lasts for a few days, at most....
and is kinda orange colour and not red
if NATO militarily retaliates, Putin will blame Ukrainia fascista and gas a whole city of them
then NATO will have NO POTATOE to threaten Russia with
with Novichok-A236
a Ukrainian tractor is no longer a factor
mit die blitzkrieg mit die giftgaz
the Zavod in Donetsk is the same as the one in Syria that made Novichok there
but 90% of the Novichok came from Moscva
they are desensitizing the media by using chloropicrin, like thousands of times now
then they'll moveup to something more lethal, just for a few times, and see the response...
but it's gonna be starry, starry Novichok
it'll be the night, they drove O-des-a down
and renamed as necropolis-by-the-sea
oh, I'd like to be at necropolis-by-the-sea
the Sole Proprietor of a gas mask magazine
totally a seller's market
with that demand/supply ratio, I'll be makin some serious kapusta!!!!
cuz that supply/demand curve IS NOT elastic
Holocaust Economics for Dummies
available on Amazon.com
but NOT TO YOU SHADOW
or anybody in North Korea either
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http://x.com/i/status/1839695626512044275
Russians near Kursk being critical of Ukraininian invaders
if this area gets reoccupied by Russia, these women will all end up in Prison for a long...long...long...time
these women are the village pridorki
don't EVER be caught sayin ANYTHING NICE about Ukrainians if yur in Russia
cuz then you'll be charged with inciting ethnic strife without a permit, and ONLY Russians got the permits
you go straight to JAIL
first thing ya need to do in a Russian prison is join a gang and make a "nosh"
horrosho?
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Russia continuing to lose a lot of their heavy Armaments:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ukrinform.net/amp/rubric-ato/3910557-war-update-180-combat-clashes-situation-most-tense-in-pokrovsk-area.html
Even if Russia were able to produce Armaments in large numbers they would still losing their heavy Armaments quicker than they can make them. Ukraine is doing a great job of disarming Russia, stockpiles of Armaments that have taken decades to build up in Soviet times being depleted rapidly day by day. The West is playing the Ukraine War along and Putler is too stupid to see it. They've been meeting Putler majd small gains at great losses, drip feeding Ukraine just enough Armaments along the way. As Russia losses all of its heavy Armaments the West is stepping up it's Armaments supply to Ukraine so strengthening Ukraine's hand as Russia's hand gets weaker. That leaves Russia in a position where it is in the backfoot and finds it difficult to respond, unless they use poisons, gas, etc but either they don't wish to go there or the West/Ukraine have an answer to that.
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Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is the lightning that does the work me 'bruv
As the acting Bishop of The Church of The Holy Socks
I'd recommend ya'll read http://crooksandliars.com/2024/09/fake-churches-are-getting-tax-breaks
and look into the tax breaks for buying yur own private jet to be uzed for running guns and drugs
also look at the salary ranges for NGOs
you can even pay yur cat for making appearances in yur "video sermons"
well...actually it goes to his "handler"
but, I digress, regress, it's a sign of distress
cuz it's all a mess
The state of the Russian Military even in Russia, is beyond phuqued-up
gopnicks aren't in the least bit afraid to die - when the alternative is to continue their life in Gopnickstan
thousands of Russians have been killed by other Russians, and NOT just Wagner
millions of bong hits ago, back when I was eine jugund, getting "indoctrinated"
I was given the task of reading a bunch of post-WWII British Military Doctrine Books
kinda like..."lessons learned"
can't remeber the author's name, but he looked like George Orwell, but wasn't and was a highly decorated officer
but, he would've ripped Putin's invasion of Ukraine, as just the dumbest thing EVER
and the more it failed, the dumber it got and the more it continued to fail
The Russian Military is just another Russian prison
but the difference is, in this prison, the prisoners have guns to
Russian soldiers are treated like gladiators who are only expected to die nobly serving the rodina (actually Putin and friends)
it's normal for Russian soldiers to naturally form little "cliques", especially in such an oppressive environment, you always search for a friendly face
eventually, the clique will frag an officer who beat or killed someone in their clique
cuz the violence in the Russian army is a two-laned highway
then the rebel cliques will ally themselves with other rebel cliques who did the same
and suddenly, there's a new wagner
with the Russian version of "Mutiny on the Bounty"
though I'm more an H.M.S Pinafore, Gilbert and Sullivan kinda malchick
fragging Russian officers is freakin EASY, cuz both sides share the same small arms
hard to tell JUST where did that grenade come from, when both sides use the same one
dewd, duh, THIS is why they call it "fragging"
oh Danny Boy, the pipes...the pipes are callin'
why aren't you in Ukraine, me lad?
it's 1849, there's gold to be had in California, why ain't you there....
it's cuz yur still eatin that Welsh Puddin, innit it?
hmmmm hmmmmm with Roast Beef Gravy, or does yur mum use the kind wot comes in a can?
didja ever eat vegemite? that is some nasty salted yeast OMG who the hell's idea was that?
why'd everybody else go along with it?
WTF is wrong with ya'll
something to do with the weather, I guess
isn't it weird, how in Australia, the toilette bowl flushes in the opposite direction, and people drive on the opposite side of the road
and when they greet someone they say "goodby"
and when they leave, they say "hello"
from Irrational Geographic Magazine Septembre, 2024 Novo Starry Gazeta corporatse
in Russia, you can get into some complicated situations
for example, you're walkin down a ulitsya, and ya encounter an old woman kicking a younger man laying on the ground
after an awkward interrogation, I uncover the fact that this is her drunken son, and she's trying to kick him to wake him up
now comes the hard part...hmmmm...ya gotta think hard....should I offer to pick him up and carry him inside or not?
long story short, after ya been there for a year
and ya see something like that....
the only thing yur gonna say is "dvigaysya, suka!" and give that starooshka a shove
Russki Mir is based on Fear
if you don't make others afraid of you, then you become afraid of others
survival of the shittiest
it's a dark and gloomy place
Dracula's Castle on the mountin ambiance
an American Hillbilly lookin autistic pridorik, walkin through a Russian mass grave
to look at the writing and to interpret the patterns
my wife told me, in a stern tone, that I was NOT allowed to collect skeletal remains from there and bring them into our home
some kinda Russian Feng Shui thing was her explanation
and after awhile, I started believing it, based on all the emprical evidence, which was overwhelming
so I switched to collecting shrapnel
and found it a rewarding hobby
and by measuring the thickness of the shrapnel, I could tell the type and caliber of the munition it came from
and if you maintained a marked map dividid into a grid, you could see if there was some "kinda distribution function" that it fits with (yes! a poisson distribution!)
ahhh...good times...
how exciting it was to find rare shell fragments from Soviet 205mm shells
remove the rust, and polish them into gleaming metal, to be made into Viking Jewelry
for small arms ammo, there were two basic types German and Soviet
German 7.92x57 ammo was steel core and usuall shed it's jacket, leaving a rusted bullet shape spike behind
Soviet 7.62x54R ammo was lead core, and ya usually got a gray lead "pancake" shaped flattened bullet, which also shed it's jacket, if the lead was heavily oxidised it could be white colored
I handled live ordance I found and had to dispose of it myself
if I was so disposed, I coulda harvested the explosive
there are actual black market dewds who do this, they sell to the local mafiyas
tatari also are really good at this but they don't sell
the difference between the Tatari explosives mafiya and Atesh, ain't that much
they're "neighbors"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atesh
the fact that the FSB hasn't figured out what to do about Atesh yet, has no clue, is super, super funny
wheras Israel got rid of Hezbollah, real quick with thousands of ball buster bombs
which left their testicles in tatters
and that's all that matters
PS
consider this...
25% of Russians have outdoor toilettes
the ones who live east of the Urals, have a bolshoi problemya!
it's so freakin cold
that the sheet freezes on their jhoppa
so they gotta go inside, stand by the fire, and wait for it melt, and THEN wipe it OFF
if this dewd got drafted, he'd say "thank god" Donetsk would feel like Miami to him
remeber how "back in the day" you'd see these "bumghee" lookin dewds sittin on a chair in the street with scales next to them
with a hand drawn sign offering to weigh you for 25 rubles?
not any more, all these dewds are mostly in mass graves somewhere in Russia or Ukraine
you gotta weigh yourself now
more and more will disappear
swallowed into the earth
why? and for whom?
and when will it ever be enough to stop it?
maybe one day, an innocent lookin Russian kid, will be executed by his comandeer
who in turn will be offed by his clique
which spreads through the chain of command, all the way to Moscva
can Zelensky be like Lincoln, and forgive his enemy
can he parse the Russian people from Putin's people
if so, instead of sseking damages from Russia, seek it from Putin, we KNOW where at least 50 billion $$$ is and in what name
maybe put an oil and gas surcharge on Russia's exports post-war into a fund
along with sanctionaed oligarch assets
Putin's big play is Trump
and the Oktober SurpriZe
if that doesn't work, then there will be the second coup, sometime in November
and if that doesn't work, and if Ukraine still holds more than 1,000 sq km of land in Russia
then Putin is not really in that great of a negotiating position to pause the war, while re-building his own forces, and waiting for the West's Debt Bomb to EXPLODE!
the Univ of Moscva focus group scenario
if Putin uses Novichok, breaks Ukraine's front lines and intimidates the West into a weak military response
if it comes out in his favor, then he's in a MUCH better negotiating position
the most interestin part about Novichok, is the retaliation...
the West has NO chemical weapons
and it won't escalate by using nukes
if there is a military reponse from NATO for Novichok, it'll be with conventional weapons delivered by stealth aircraft, on Russian positions in occupied Ukraine
if Novichoks doesn't come out in his favor, then oligarchs promise the sun and the moon to the miltary to depose Putin
New leadership blames the war 100% on Putin
sues for peace, withdraws from all lands in return for a 20 year moratorium on NATO for Ukraine
real goal is rearmament, like German 1919-1939
basically, fall back to pre-2014 borders, and re-arm
while Ukraine has a 20 year moratorium on joining NATO
west has financial collapse in 2030s
while Russia's military peaks
Iran detonates it's first nuke, while Russia tests Tsar Dva Bomba and blows the phuque out of the Siber Arctic
whichever side can detonate their EMP Nukes over their enemies first
while "Iron Doming" their Enemie's Missiles is the winner of this game
that's where the US Navy will get involved with ships that shoot down ICBMs
OMG!! can you imagine a Tar Bomba dva EMP bomb, detonated about 80 miles up in the center of North America
that's what Satan-2 is SUPPOSED TO DO
but Ukrainians blew it up on the launch pad
as part of a new lakefront property development
cuz these craters all fill in with water
and will eventually become a fresh water family recreation area
one small nuke behind 3 Gorges Damn in China would flood half of China's Industrial Heartland
we could base missiles in Taiwan, that'd have a 3 minite flight time to do that
if we KNEW for sure we were gonna fight China in 20 years, we should optimize our position
by making it in Depth
and have military resources at all over the map capable of striking China, some from close by, some from further away
while their missiles have to pass over our ships and islands air defenses before they get to our coastal missile defenses
and then interior air defenses
China's highly populated coastal regions would be vulnerable to post nuclear famine
it would be TOTAL SUICIDE for China to start a nuclear war with the USA
and the majority of us in North America will be phyqued to
so the question is; could china fight a VERY SHORT conventional war with the US Navy in the Pacific
$14 Billion US Aircraft Cariiers vrs state of the art Chinese guided ballistic missiles, capable of hitting a ship 1,500 km away moving at 30 knots in a zig-zag pattern with 3 meter accuracy
higly asymmetrical
big ticket US items
vrs cheap Chinese ones
we will lose that fight....
it's the wrong fight to have with them
instead, flip it around, and do it better, you got all that great Ukrainian Data to do product improvement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_X
ain't this 80 year old piece of technology sweet?
you guys can't even begin to imagine the power of a device like this
coupled with about $300 of computer hardware purchased off of ebay called a raspberry pi 5
installed on an industrial drone you built yurself from parts
everything, all inclsive drone cost is $2000
like a hawk lookin for Russian squirrels
Ukraine can get actual Czech made C-4, none of that bootleg stuff, who knows what that stuff really is
you can be sittin in a duck blind in a swamp in southern Ukraine, lookin at the satellite photos ya got from Fort Meade
and setting yur course to the launch pads in Northern Crimea
any RuZZian Racketa sittin on the launch pad, just aim for the warhead
Kaboom! Rico!
BTW, do the following
get a hot looking woman to conceal 1 kilo of PETN explosive into either a truck or car she hitch hikes in going over the kerch bridge
but gets out of the vehicle, before the security check at the Kerch Bridge, and hide the PETN in the vehicle
if it explosive sniffers or dogd catch it, then a Russian got busted, if it succeeds, then double the amount of PETN and repeat
you could even wire it, to blow on command, and take out their bomb squad
and then get the next one
and the next one
only inexperienced ones left
can you imagine if you got WayMo self-driving cars into Russia
put dummies inside the car
and pack it with explosive....
or....
what would be even funnier, is hire some russian to drive the WayMo across the bridge
they get the car all the way up to security
then you activate the self-drivinf feature and lock them out
drive the car onto the bridge
and Ka-Boom Rico!
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I'm wondering if the best thing to do is for NATO, the US, UK, etc is to take out Iran with help from Israel. Make sure Iran can't become a nuclear threat and stop them supplying Russia with drones, etc.
Iran along with Russia has been carrying out terrorist related activities in the UK a report out states, a perfect excuse to mount an invasion I think. Better the world gets rid of dangerous states like Iran & North Korea I think. The longer they continue as they are the more risk they'll become over time. Iran is probably the first one that needs to be taken out and given a regime change, burkas off, bikinis on :P
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Yes, I am hoping Israel will make an overwhelming strike on Iran soon.
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USA told Israel no targeting oil or nuclear facilities
so it'll be a purely military target
if it were up to me, I'd go for their Russian Uranium enrichment centrifuges
this would cripple their entire nuclear program
huge mistake letting Russia and Iran do this
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Signs of Civil War in the Chechnya region of the Russian Federation:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1960245/russia-chechnya-dagestan-kadyrov-blood-feud/amp
Over time this instability may spread. The more instability spreads the more unstable Russia may become as Putler's ability to influence matters decrease. With Russia's army tied up in Ukraine it will become more apparent that Putler has at least one or perhaps both hands tied behind his back. Russia running out of tanks and artillery next year could be the turning point if it isn't already with no to little ability to send in the tanks to quash any revolt.
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that region has been very unstable for quite awhile
http://projects.icij.org/investigations/pandora-papers/power-players/en/player/suleiman-kerimov
perfect place for a joint CIA/SBU operation to even further destabilize it
didja see the two new arsenal attacks?
before these recent two, the numeric advantage that Russia had over Ukraine with the supply of artillery shells
went from 8-1 in Russia's favor to 3-1
and a lotta the remaining shells are North Korean that are even worse quality than Russian ones, some have even blown up in the barrel
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that region has been very unstable for quite awhile
http://projects.icij.org/investigations/pandora-papers/power-players/en/player/suleiman-kerimov
perfect place for a joint CIA/SBU operation to even further destabilize it
didja see the two new arsenal attacks?
before these recent two, the numeric advantage that Russia had over Ukraine with the supply of artillery shells
went from 8-1 in Russia's favor to 3-1
and a lotta the remaining shells are North Korean that are even worse quality than Russian ones, some have even blown up in the barrel
That is very handy for Ukrainian forces that they will be facing reduced artillery shelling. Apparently Russian shelling can be often inaccurate but if so many shells fly then they will be so many doing damage somewhere. I bet the Russian artillery crew got a shock when the artillery blew up in them with the North Korean shell lol. Probably Russia has lost a fair few artillery pieces and crew men that way. Well it will all be handy in slowing the Russians down as they approach Pokrovsk. Looks like Russia will stand no chance of taking Pokrovsk before Spring next year as Winter will set in at the end of October so little more than a couple of weeks left and that will help freeze the battle lines where they are, with the Russians freezing outside of the city. By Spring they will probably be out of or nearly out of artillery pieces which means taking cities in Ukraine will become a whole lot harder for them.
Putin is 72 years old now so is starting to get on in age, as he gets older so the odds of others seeing a potential vacancy arising in the top post in future increases. Most likely the whole structure out in Russia is prone to having people waiting in the wings to swoop in and takeover whatever lucrative seems may become possible for the taking, oil, gas, gold, other minerals, industry, etc, etc. I get the impression that's the way it works out there, if it's possible to take wealth people will try to. Once things start to get ragged with old leadership looking past it's self by date and on the way out, discord, disorganisation and control breaking down, opportunities will arise I think. Opportunists will care less about the state of play as a whole and more about how they can take advantage to gain what they can for themselves. That's where common interest comes in, where opportunists find common interest to work in association with each other and usually against those in the current status quo to pick off better pickings for themselves or get higher up the ladder by knocking those above them out of the way.
The more the current leadership, Putin seem to be on the wane the more people will start jostling in Russia to gain what they can. The more that ball rolls the more the current regime in Russia will break up as new regime(s) move in and become up and coming. In my view they're all just waiting for Putler to become infirm and lose his grip on power. Once that happens, many pretenders will be eyeing the converted position greedily and will all be timing their move. The best thing Ukraine can do is keep in the war, avoid peace treaties that won't favour it and sit it out. Next year the conflict is likely to become frozen along present battle lines, at least for Russia or they might lose some ground. The conflict will likely just stagnate in the position where it is and slow up in terms of activity on the front line. For Ukraine it's better to sit it out like that as they can easily do so and wait for matters to deteriorate in Russia as they will invariably do so. The heightening tension in Chechnya is likely just the early signs of things being to come apart, more could later follow I think.
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Apparently around 10,000 North Korean troops may be fighting in Ukraine now according to Zelensky:
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/10/16/north-korea-joined-russia-in-its-war-against-ukraine-zelenskyy-says
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well....
didn't the USA help Britain fight fascism "once upon a time"
oh wait...you mean they're helping RuZZia?
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This article looks like fake news but stranger things have happened.
North Koreans deployed alongside Russian troops in Ukraine, sources say
Engineers said to be supporting missile launches and reports of North
Koreans killed near Donetsk
North Korean military engineers have been deployed to help Russia target Ukraine with ballistic
missiles, and fighters operating in occupied areas of the country have already been killed, senior
officials in Kyiv and Seoul said
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/10/north-korea-engineers-deployed-russia-ukraine
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show me who Your friend is...
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might be another destination for Shadow to experience the glory of living in, it's just as cold as RuZZia
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This article looks like fake news but stranger things have happened.
North Koreans deployed alongside Russian troops in Ukraine, sources say
Engineers said to be supporting missile launches and reports of North
Koreans killed near Donetsk
North Korean military engineers have been deployed to help Russia target Ukraine with ballistic
missiles, and fighters operating in occupied areas of the country have already been killed, senior
officials in Kyiv and Seoul said
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/10/north-korea-engineers-deployed-russia-ukraine
Ukrainian intelligence has stated there are 3,000 North Korean troops in Russia, 12 already escaped the frontlines. Ukrainian intelligence has been reliable when it releases anything.
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probably every country poorer than Russia has been a source of military recruitment for RuZzia
only thing it costs RuZZia is some rubles they print themselves...which is basically NOTHING
Russian strategy is to just throw bodies out to absorb Ukraine's wrath
and hopefully get a few Ukrainians in exchange
don't matter where the bodies come from
cuz ya can always get some new ones
they're a renewable resource
Putin, like Trump, is motivated purely by self-interest
he don't give a flyin phuque mate about some mother's tears
look on Utube, for RuZZians walkin through the new military cemetaries that are springin up like mushrooms after a rain
look at the lost expressoions on their faces, and they dare not say a bloody slovo
wot does this tell ya 'bout the world we live in mate...
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Ukrainian intelligence has stated there are 3,000 North Korean troops in Russia, 12 already
escaped the frontlines. Ukrainian intelligence has been reliable when it releases anything.
All the reports might be true, but the way they couch everything in the stories, it's
not as clear.
NATO responds to questions about North Korea's involvement in Russia's war in Ukraine
The North Atlantic Alliance has not yet been able to confirm information about the possible
involvement of North Korean soldiers in the war against Ukraine. However, such reports
are causing concern, according to a press conference by NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte
http://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/nato-responds-to-questions-about-north-korea-1729093992.html
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Gazprom?
http://x.com/i/status/1846745672042606968
next they'll start slowly workin their way up the ladder of toxicity
and turn the heat up slowly to boil them lagushkie
Donetsk Gaz Zavod
just a repeat of what RuZZians did in Syria, when they setup their Gaz Zavod there
nyet...nyet...not us...it was the locals who did this
same thing about "little green men" appearing in Crimea
da...it's the locals
http://www.timesofisrael.com/did-the-mossad-kill-a-russian-general-for-peddling-deadly-nerve-agent-to-syria/
how can RuZZians be so damned smart, yet be so dumb, all at the same time, it's one of them paradoxes, now innit it mate?
meanwhile, all you white folks in Europe and the USA use Jews and Ukrainians as yur Janissaries to fight fer ya, so yur Gen Z don't have to get their hands dirty
why would Gen Z ever fight for ANYTHING, when they expect it all to be just given to them
PS
hoo-rah - SINWAR IS DEAD!!!!!
this will open the door for a permanent cease fire in Gaza in exchange for hostages
smart thing for Netanyahu to do, is to let President Harris lead the negotiation and not seek the glory for himself
most of low-level Hezbollah foot soldiers are in it for the money
IDF blew the hell out of Hezbollah's bank for payrolls in Lebanon
and everything else of Hezbollah's
not really a fighting force now...
if Israel waits until AFTER the US election to retaliate against Iran, they could get away with hitting Iran's Oil facilities and do $billions in damage (while playin Petroleum Futures)
and invite Iran to retaliate s'more....
those stealth bombers are sweet...
und fur meinen freund, zu Gros Willhelm
ze difference between Christian Nationalist und Christian Democrat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_nationalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_democracy
interesting...
PS2
RuZZia's Kursk Nuclear Power Plant, might have itself a reichstag fire, if RuZZians lose the Nov 5 election...
Mir Ludie
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PS2
RuZZia's Kursk Nuclear Power Plant, might have itself a reichstag fire, if RuZZians lose the Nov 5 election...
Mir Ludie
I would still rather that be so then I can win my small US Presidential Election bet :D
Personally if I was Israel I would now move to push all Palestinians in Gaza over the border to Egypt for good. That means they wouldn't face the misery repeating itself time and again of what they have been through. Otherwise Hamas will just come back at some point in the future and redo it all over again. A bad move to just let your enemies lie sitting there all around you.
They could cite it's needed for humanitarian reasons, the perfect excuse, they just say that's the only way the Palestinians will be able to get easy access to the food they need ;)
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the battle of Islam V Judaism is fought on many battlefields
the court of public opinion being one such venue
twenty years from now, that venue will disappear, post 2nd great depression and WWIII
and Israel will take off the gloves and go "bare knuckles"
wars will never cease, cuz there ain't no time fer peace
and the lillys of the vally ain't gonna grow no more
war, is man's natural state
it's peace that's unnatural
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All the reports might be true, but the way they couch everything in the stories, it's
not as clear.
NATO responds to questions about North Korea's involvement in Russia's war in Ukraine
The North Atlantic Alliance has not yet been able to confirm information about the possible
involvement of North Korean soldiers in the war against Ukraine. However, such reports
are causing concern, according to a press conference by NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte
http://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/nato-responds-to-questions-about-north-korea-1729093992.html
Ukraine released photos with geolocation of North Korean troops training in Primorsky Krai, Russia. Ukrainian intelligence states 2,600 troops will be sent to Kursk.
http://mil.in.ua/en/news/dprk-is-already-deploying-several-brigades-and-special-forces-in-russia/
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koreans?
doma devushka, shto te gavorite, my sweet?
where ya think all that freakin Kim Chee in the Russian markets been comin from lo' these many years
they ain't got no Seoul, them Koreans is from up North
I learned some Korean, in the military them old lady's thought I wuz a RuZZian tryin to practice with em
told me EVERYTHING
I put it in my weekly report, but nobody paid any attention to it
Koreans? Kremlin released a statement on this latest Western provocation which will be answered fire and brimstone, every American city will be a smouldering ruin
nyet koreanski
nyet tovarisch just Buryats on vacation
havin some of that Kultural enrichment
Faith and begorrah, me mates...
'tis another Mongol invasion...
the last one succeeded cuz Europe didn't stick together to fight them
so each kingdom had to fight seperately on their own
includin them there Kievan Rus
they sacked Chersonnes, cuz they could't pay the "Krisha"
it looked like Mariupol after Ghenghis Khan's grandson wuz done
they later became Tatari
I wuz a "midnight archeologist" in Chersonnes
from evidence I gathered Mongols burned all the Churches, some of which had originally been Greek Temples
with people inside
witches would ask to buy the bones from me
but I was smart, and just gave it to them gratis
then they owe me
sorry, the drugs kicked in, I left, went somewhere, and just got back....
so picking up from where I departed
in unity there is strength
this is the entire purpose of NATO
then when the Mongols are actually coming, they twiddle their thumbs, cuz it may hurt their own tenuous hold on power
the Mongol invasion was so destructive to Eastern Europe, there's a kinda racial memory about it
it's what the "Hobbit" books is all about
nobody in the west wants to fight, when ya can just get duh jews and Ukrainians to do it fer ya
kinda like here in Texas, no white people mow their own lawns, cuz they get Mexicans to do it
now even Zelensky is playin the nuclear card
give me NATO, or I'll choose Nukes
and Ukraine has most of the world's supply of scandium...scandium polynitride is the secret sauce in the new top secret mikro-nukes mentioned in Bob Woodward's book
it also has a couple of tons of Plutonium created from them big 'ole Soviet Reactors, a standard bomb uses 6 kg, Mikros even smaller
note: ya wanna make a small diameter bomb, instead of a sphere of Plutonium, you use an elliptical "football" shape, and ya can get it down to 6" diameter with shielding, less without
if Pakistan can do it, so can Ukraine
Taiwan and South Korea should to
I've been kinda mullin over the possibility of doin it myself
but bio is just SO much easier
If the Nazis used Poison Gas
the UK was gonna flood Germany with anthrax
google it, if ya don't know about this
there's still a quarantined scottish island cuz of this
soviets/russians are the world leaders in bio-weapons
cuz they take risks that no one in the west would ever think of doing
sincerely, Paddy O'Krimster on the Patio
PS
http://x.com/i/status/1847195873685496193
it all comes down to the math
trust me, ya'll in the west are gonna want to inject a stimulus into yur arms industry as well as renewable energy fer yur future security
Russians in Mexico are tryin to subvert Mexico to be anti-US
Trump is helpin 'em with that to
ya'll are a bunch of fookin idiots
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Footage of North Korean troops receiving equipment in Russia.
http://t.me/spravdi/42230
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I wonder how much l'il mini Kim (the only fat man in North Korea), aka Rocketman gets paid for this
also Rocketman makes even more money replacing lost Russian artillery with Korean exact copies of the same, all their weapons are interchangable, more than NATO even,,.
and ammo
and since Europeons are still buying Russian Gaz, they're payin for it
didja know the Bush Family, yes that one, owned a German Ball Bearing Factory that was essential to the German War Effort, and were operating it and receiving money from it, during the FREAKING WAR WITH THE USA
lies you say....
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
you can search for this information online
Congressional Record in 1942
Herbert Walker Bush
they WERE a New England banking family, old money, as they say, but in 1948 George Bush wanted to get into politics, and saw the growth in Texas Demographics post war
so he moved there and ran for Senate
his name is mentioned in the Warren Report, cuz a couple of days before Kennedy was shot, he called the FBI and said that Kennedy was gonna be shot in Dallas
guess what happens...
later, he becomes head of the CIA and we had Iran Contra
then he became president and we had Gulf War I
then later HIS son became president and we had Gulf War II
now...
dear gentle, kind RWD readers (who are especially tolerant of swearing)
look who we got staring us in the phuqueing face like a shotgun
I kinda have a feelin....
that no matter what happens next month, good or bad....
some of it' gonna be bad
lives will be lost and ruined
you can ask why?
but ya ain't gonna ever get yaself an answer
but, I imagine one day, ChatGP-XX Personall Edition with 3D Avatar will tell me
and I'll realize I already knew that truth
but it was just hidden in a part of my memory I could't access, until my AI friend said it
you'll be able to recreate yur childhood home and go relive yur life
you will have to have "safeguards"
cuz you'll be like one of them monkeys that presses a button to choose either cocaine or food
and he ALWAYS chooses the coke (fook mate, $100 gram, who wouldn't)
and he starves and dies
this is what addiction is mate
another one of them latin words
means to "give oneself over to something else"
it's why ya got reward and punishment mate
if you don't reward or punish yurself....
well... ya see... it just means somebody else will
captain of yur fate, master of yur soul and all that malarkey
anyone disagree with this sentiment, then put forth yur rebuttal
otherwise I'll take yur silence as affirmation
Za Mir druzya
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Footage of North Korean troops receiving equipment in Russia.
http://t.me/spravdi/42230
Thank You! I joined the channel
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the Ukrainian war, can only be won in RuZZia
RuZZia, before war
http://x.com/i/status/1496900368344797184
just 30 days after this
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-invasion-protests-police-arrest-activists-holding-blank-signs-paper-1687603
this WAS ALL planned well in advance
changin a lightbulb would take a year in RuZZia
RuZZia is Bardakistan
slaves breed dick taters
dick taters breed slaves
where the fook is RuZZia's Spatacus? plurral: Sparticai
ya mean Nemsov and Navalny and Anna Politkovskaya, Alexander Litvinenko, Magninsky and a phone book full of other folks
dewd, almost ALL THE Textbooks on using Murder for Socio-political engineering were written by either RuZZia or Iran
and, dear Gentle Reader, it's not easy, but you can acquire the sacred texts
Protocols of the Elders of Russia's Oligarchy Apparachiki aka "Friends of Putin" friendship is ALL ABOUT sharing
like I got pocket full of 5,000 Ruble notes, sittin up front at Rusputin's in a classic black Armani suit, and 14k gold rimmed Aviator Sun Glasses with matching 14k gold Rolex from 1945
and the sexiest lookin women, you've ever seen in yur life
are just a few feet away from you
trying to show you their "sex organs"
what's weird, was the feeling that came over me
I was in love...
good thing I snapped out of it - WTF is wrong with me???
where is my cookie?
wait a minute...did YOU take my cookie?? HUH, DIDJA??
no...there it is over there...
mmmm....mmmmm.....
did you take my glass of Milk???
PS
none of my posts have been written by ChatGPT
nor do I employ a foreign sweatshop of crazy people to ghost write for me
all my posts are 100% made in America, The American Way, with American Pride
no...not "THAT" kind of pride, WTF is wrong with you
Life Magazine, 1945 VJ Day Pride Black and White Cover, ya long haired FOOL
now, turn yur ass around, and git outta my yard
those damned clouds UP THERE!!!
go on now - GIT!!!
mumble...mumble...something...mumble...
PS2
there ya are in a war torn foreign land...
fatigues and red cross patch
sittin in an outdoor cafe, on a warm saturday
espresso and cheesecake
1,000 yard stare
note: have yur bluetooth setup so that you'll get the missile alerts and you can take cover
a steady stream of female shoppers pass by
you need to look like the "sad puppy dog"
make eye contact, if you "lock" and she smiles...
well you know what to do...right?
right?
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during the Soviet Empire Period, Soviets standardized all weapons....
cuz, if one of their satellites were in a "proxy war", Korea, Vietnam, Chnia
the Soviets could supply them directly....
now the weapon flow is in the other direction
it's a long way down RuZZia
but you'll get there, eventually, just keep goin...
watch the change in RuZZian tone, whenever the election results will be finalized
and it ain't Trump
then watch what happens to all them rednecks on this board
when they realize poor 'ole denigrated Krimster was RIGHT all along...
crestfallen, they will be...
People over country over party
People's Democratic Republic Americanos Libertad
Commander Che Krimster, People's Liberation Army author of "Marx and AI"
Viva La Revolution!!!!
I am also the person, who created a low salt tolerance breed of sea monkey
by raising gneration afer generation, in decreasing salinity, only the survivors could breed
and keep doin it, till it was at the level of the Black Sea
then I released them...
soon....
they will be EVERYWHERE
HAHAHAHAHA
I can change the World...
a little bit at a time
when they are ready to receive it
they will be taught the gospel of Christ
and they will become soldiers for Christ
and become the larget Christian Army the World has ever known
and they shall destroy all the unclean things that live in the sea
mainly bottom dwelling mollusks, crabs, and lobsters
a holy war
between sea monkeys and mollusks
is it time for my jello now?
hmmm...cherry....
and apple juice...
both chilled to perfection
ya wanna know what's REALLY weird about asylums?
you can show yur willy to the female staff or patients
and ya won't get in ANY TROUBLE AT ALL!!!!
ya just say..."oops" or if ya really wanna be funny, ya say, "the mouse is outta his house" and then do a little dance
all quite acceptable and don't cost ya any points at all on yur behavior chart, that of course EVERBODY can see....
BTW, you wanna watch TV, i'm the guy you wanna see....
hmmmmm....juicy fruit.....
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This war is costing Russia a small fortune:
http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3918464-afu-destroy-russian-bukm3-antiaircraft-missile-system-60-kilometers-from-contact-line.html
At some point the economic cost of the war is going to come home to roost for Russia.
Currently Russia is pushing Ukraine slowly back in Kursk and Pokrovsk region but with great losses. I'm guessing that Russia will hit the wall at some point potentially before they have made much progress. Ukraine just has to hold on that but longer and make sure their lines don't break anywhere.
Theoretically even Russia can run out of men as after clearing the jails and the unemployed, they then start draining the labour force of workers and that will lead to ever deepening economic problems that will undermine their war effort.
North Korea too seem to be up for disarmament in Ukraine so hopefully it will make them less of a menace over time also.
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Looks like Ukraine also started killing off its enemies on their own territory
http://kyivindependent.com/russian-pilot-found-dead/
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he was cleaning his hammer, and he forgot to check if it was loaded....
never drink and clean yur hammers
in fact, never drink....
but always keep yur hammers clean, and sealed from dust and moisture
it always makes me wonder, which is most cost effective
a regular army which fights bottom-up
or a small army of Assassins that fights top-down
Israel does both at the same time
soon, the weather is gonna change....
living conditions will be grim
at night, when ya crawl across RuZZian lines
you can smell the RuZZians a long way off
use yur nose to guide ya in
try not to get yur FSB uniform dirty
yur forged documents will be good enuff at night
speak in a Tambov St. Petersburg accent
once they salute you, the rest is easy
the IR cloaks will protect ya from bein seen with night vision drone monitors
cut a hole fer yur own night vision
and walk across no-man's land
and infiltrate to the kitchen
and uncork the vial of methyl mercury and add it the recipee
paka!
typical work day of an SBU infiltrator
800% increase in industrial fires in RuZZia
pyromania protests
Putin burns incense with Russian orthodox bishop to pray for Trump
what will Putin do, if God turns against him?
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The RuZZian economy
Alfa Bank Weasel is promoting a 47.5 % loan on 50,000 rubles as a good deal!!! and get free kartoshka (not really...)
why do I think yur "Social Credit Rating" is also gonna be tied to yur draft score
and bankruptcy court is next to the recruitment office
the people have NO POWER in RuZZia at all
the best you can hope for, is a krisha big enough to cover your jhoppa
and hope you and yur family stays out of trouble
meanwhile, show public patriotism
dress yur kids up as Sovietski Soldat an victory day (take lots of pics for yur office, etc)
and have them march in the parade carryin a picture of a dead veteran (eta dadooshka)
a solemn moment
as the band plays on
and the crowd cheers
when No-leg Oleg comes marchin home again, hurr-rah-hurr-ha
the men will cheer and the boys will shout
the hot lookin girls, will all turn out
and we'll all feel gay, til DeSantis says we can't (say that word!)
can't say the "G-WORD"
unless it's GOD - (finger pointing skyward)
no rainbows or prisms for makin rainbows either
in the future, you will not need to have a military
you can just Fed-Ex nuclear bombs to yur enemies
rules are ya gotta have a delay fuse, so the plane can leave, otherwise it costs a lot more
with overnite delivery option and tracking
you time everything to go off at once
in all the customs warehouses
use test packages with transmitters to track to target proximity
Lake Toropets Crater Lake
is a great place to "get back to nature"
let the kids collect shells (of various calibers)
as you watch dueling armies of drones
jousting in the air above you
ain't no drone shine
any time
she walks alone
and she always walks alone
I like to write and keep it tight
that suka Putin, better have my money
cuz now I want it. to loan it to Alfa Bank
The Bank of Stank and Wank Ltd.
Porridge House
Isle of Woman, UK
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Wow, that's an incredible amount of interest on a loan Krim. Those sort of economic issues are only likely to get worse the longer Russia continues in the war. Makes me laugh Putin suggesting that any peace treaty incorporates Russian gains in the ground. If I were Ukraine I would hold on longer until next year, apart from any possible shortages of Armaments Russia's main problem could become economic. In the end Russia might be defeated economically as much as any other way. As the figures below show the war is costing Russia a fortune each day it goes on. I don't think it should be underestimated how weak economically Russia may be becoming. Might not be as long as some might think before Russia economy cracks up completely:
"According to most estimates, every day of the war in Ukraine costs Russia $500 million to $1 billion. Russia faced a record shortage of factory workers in July 2023, with more than 43% of industrial enterprises facing a shortage, up from 35% in April."
"According to Ukraine's General Staff, as of October 1, more than 654,000 Russian personnel have died. As for Ukrainian troops, the Russian Ministry of Defence estimates that Kyiv has lost almost half a million men, according to a report published last month by the RT news website.16 Oct 2024"
Losses on the Russian side are much as thought at this point. I'm not sure Ukraine has lost half a million men including those too badly injured to carry on. My guess would be perhaps 300,000 - 400,000. I worked of figures from the first year if warfare and it seemed that Ukraine would on average lose about 100,000 men for each year of war. Third year if war now and it's possible losses may have amounted to a bit more than that.
North Korea are adding troops to the invasion now. My guess is that they will end up getting directly involved and potentially will send more & more troops over time:
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/10/24/first-north-korean-troops-reach-russian-combat-zone-kyiv-reports
Ukraine & the West may need to up their game to counter this.
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loan?
it can transformed from loan into a draft notice
as can a parking ticket, overdue library book
Putin gets more power
the longer the war goes on
the longer the war goes on, the less there is of RuZZia
and the less power Putin has
Ukrainian Amateur Space Exploration
H aimed for the Moon, but hit Kursk!!!
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welcome to the Hotel Starokostyantyniv
such a lovely place
plenty of drone debris at the Hotel Starokostyantyniv
any time of year
you can find some here
Krimster Plan For Ending The War
Ukraine ceases attacks on Russian energy infrastructure, Russia does the same
one sanction is removed...
keep de-escalating until Russia withdraws all military forces
and Ukraine agrees to become a DMZ Demilitarized Zone under EU and NATO Protection
with peace keepers but no heavy equipment
all Russian forces withdrawn = all sanctions removed
Russia gives $400 billion in frozen assets to Ukraine
Exxon-Mobile works with Russia on artic oil, and sets up a Marshall Plan for Ukraine
you'll need a small army of western bureaucratic auditors
or the Ukrainians will "steal ya blind"
WTF does that even mean?
English idioms are weird, are they KNOT?
they're Bandera BAN-DITS!!!
rakin' in kapusta
PS
http://x.com/i/status/1849276635062960235
Parenting Advice From Krimster
Rule #1 NEVER TRUST DADDY!!!
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Looks like Iran is being hit by Israeli Missiles now:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn4v67j88e0t
Hopefully they will set back Iran's Missile and Drone production facilities. I get the impression Israeli missiles are far more accurate than Iran's and Iran has trouble shooting them down.
If I were Israel, the UK or US I would just pound Iran with missiles continuously on all their military sites, military facilities and Armament production sites as well as Government. Hammer them so much that Iran's refund becomes unstable so it becomes easy to topple them. Leaving them in power is a very complacent step to make. Over time it just leaves the Iranian regime to get stronger and become a bigger threat to peace in the region and further abroad. Without Armaments supply from Iran, Russia would be struggling even more in Ukraine.
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I think Israel hit a place that produces drones! But I heard iran is building a drone producing company in Russia since last year :(
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I think Israel hit a place that produces drones! But I heard iran is building a drone producing company in Russia since last year :(
Let's hope so. Iran look like they will retailate as would be expected. Possibly they might try firing a load of missiles or drones again if they have any left at Israel.
Syria might have also been hit. Both Surya & Iran are pro-Putler so if they could be taken out then that would weaken Putler's hand.That Israel can hit Israel without losses to aircraft means that Iran probably isn't that strong. They would be better taken out now using continuous missile strikes to disable the regime than leave them to become a bigger threat down the line.
Syria was backed up by Russia in its civil war a number of years ago. Now that Russia is preoccupied in its war in Ukraine now would be a good time to arm the rebels and get them to take over in Syria. Both Iran & Syria can be moved upon if the West just gets off their rears and removes these menaces from the Middle East.
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unlicensed multi-band GPS jammers are on every street corner in Ukraine
a big garage and a dozen people and you can make a factory for DIY versions of GPS/GLONASS Jammers
dumb ass RuZZian drone operators program drones with GPS coordinates...
Drone flys off randomly until it crashes
but so to will your United Airline Flight
so how does commercial air traffic work in the drone age in Kiev or Moscva?
is it better to fly to Poland and take the train in?
it seems both sides have made commercial air traffic off the target list except for MH17
big screwup by NATO to not exploit that by placing a NATO Early Warning Radar on that EXACT SPOT afterward!!!
is RuZZia cutting back on Ukrainian infrastructure attacks?
can you imagine being the SBU Agent in Vladivostok
who snuck aboard the North Korean ship full of Ammunition and planted a bomb and then snuck back to shore
after the explosion rocks the entire city
he opens a thermos of chai, and pours himself a cup
it's a Man's life there in Vladivostok
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http://youtu.be/T0uYxK66VLU
http://youtu.be/HcFLVV1idYw
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EMERGENCY!!!!
EVERYONE TO GET FROM STREET!!!!
Tin Soldiers and Mongols coming
won't Maidan ever END?
gotta get down, baby, Mongols are COMING!!!!
shoulda moved to the west long ago
yes...
but Ukraine now has South Korean counter-support
the "ROKs"
them Koreans is the bait, for the Ukrainian artillery to give away their positions to the RuZZians who'll shoot 'em up
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to be Russian, is to be tied to the land...
that's the first thing they took from us
they took us from the land
and then they took the land from us
so we became wanderers in a distant land
no more Steppin' in the Steppes
rodina is not even a memory for us
http://x.com/i/status/1850249606153863673
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EMERGENCY!!!!
EVERYONE TO GET FROM STREET!!!!
You didn't actually watch my videos you just made a knee jerk post.
To your knee jerk post, I say.....
Very clever little boy. Very, very clever, to see that my friend and I are foreigners
here, but of course not Russian, naturally. What would the Russians be doing on
United States of America island, with so many animosities and hatreds between
these two countries? It is too funny an idea, is it not? No, we... we are of course...
Norweegans.
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http://youtu.be/T0uYxK66VLU
http://youtu.be/HcFLVV1idYw
Peter Zeihan, you will have gotten our Beefarmuh all excited downstairs, his a big fan of Peter Zeihan.
The second video was far too long and boring to sit through.
I think for sure though that we could soon be in not just one but two wars fought by proxy by the West. The first is happening in Ukraine already and the second one seems to be happening through Israel. Potentially Israel can be used to fire missiles at Syria & Iran and destroy those regimes there by the West just supplying Israel with missiles. For both Israel & Ukraine it could be seen as I load the gun, you fire.
If this strategy is followed through on potentially we could be rid of the final remaining powers in the world that pose a risk to the peace and stability of the world.
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that long haired fool Peter Zeiihan...
i've PERSONALLY MET Russian saboteurs on US soil (Javelin factory fire)
and I've met American saboteurs on Russian soil when I looked in the mirror and saw one
everybody was kung fu fight-ing
the sabotage as fast as lightening
the industrial fires frightening
the other outcome
is you drive all yur enemies to join together
and fight as one
if THEY did that
then each of them only has to fight in one place
but we gotta fight them simultaneously in all three
our forces are divided before we even fight
AND...
we don't really have all that much "forces" to begin with
Russia's use of Korean troops, opens a door
if the West had ANY desire to escalate, but clearly does not
it could create it's own "Volunteer" force like the Flying Tigers in China prior to WWII
to balance the scales, and blame the escalation on Russia
but our strategy is low escalation, but continuous decade long war to wear down Russia, alost 25% overwith
the war is a grinding wheel
and not a sledge hammer
another place, where things will change, post election, when we're less focused on the stock market and oil prices
so next year, I expect Israel to target oil and nukes in Iran
and really make Iran bleed
Iran and Russia are both barely functioning economies
knocking out their main source of money would be painful
but it will drive the price of oil sky high
can you say, "oil futures"
see?
I knew ya could....
it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood
can you say "commodities trading"
very good!
you know...I like YOU
YOU are my SPECIAL FRIEND
I like you just the way you are
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Potentially Israel can be used to fire missiles at Syria & Iran and destroy those regimes there
I think the USA needs to be done with regime changes. Iran is the Hydra anyway. If you
cut off one Mullah head two grow in it's place. However, if someone blew up Iran's
drone manufacturing facilities, then they wouldn't be shipping as many drones to
Russia.
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I think the USA needs to be done with regime changes. Iran is the Hydra anyway. If you
cut off one Mullah head two grow in it's place. However, if someone blew up Iran's
drone manufacturing facilities, then they wouldn't be shipping as many drones to
Russia.
The US/UK fucked up with regime change in Afghanistan & Iraq. They put boots on the ground and when you put ground troops in they are seen as the enemy and can be attacked.
Always better to either back an opposing side with Armaments & Finance and/or hammer the enemy from afar with Missiles. Sure missiles cost a lot but not as much as fielding a ground army that needs to be mobilised and shipped out abroad, then maintained in the field usually for a long duration. Hammer the enemy with missiles for long enough that their grip on power gets unsteady and someone will step up to take their place.
Regime change can work but it's the way you go about it that matters.
Think about it, you hammer the enemy with missiles relentlessly. Some country like Iran that obviously has poor missile defenses to start with. You start by taking out any missile defenses, then any anti aircraft defenses, then any military airfields, then their main military bases, then their energy grid, then their government buildings, then their police stations, then railways, then roadways, etc, etc roughly in that order. At some point the ruling government will lose control, chaos starts to take hold. Then opposing groups from, someone comes forth naturally to take control.
If the West can find someone favourable to their cause to back then agreements can be made, Financial & Armaments backing can be made. The current government will end up without much in the way of means to oppose their new opponents and their opponents will take power, simple as. It's just in the West the silly notion of entering into ground wars and getting directly involved in the ground was entered into, a big mistake on that one.
Still Iraq at least to this day isn't the pain in that arse it once was at least. So regime change can work but thd West went about it the wrong way by fielding ground troops.
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the world will fall down all on it's own eventually
no push is needed
unless yur in a hurry
the more we decouple from oil
the more vulnerable we make our enemies
the more coupled we are to oil
the more vulnerable we make ourselves
mini nuclear plants and self driving electric cars and AI
genetically engineered dung beetles
to collect dung for humans to use in new post-industrtial development
The Dung Depot
Today's Dung is Tomorrow's Fuel to make the day after's Dung
Dung-Fuel-Dung-Fuel
an endless loop
collect the dung with little bits of hay and grass sticking out
dry the dung
burn the dung
dump the ashes in the garden
ahhhh
the early morning smell of a dried dung fire...
and bacon and eggs
Dung and Bradstreet
Guano Guarantee and Trust
Sewage Savings and Loan
Poop Portfolio Management
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how to be an independent war correspondant in Ukraine
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/caught-in-bombing-on-ukraine-front-line-beyond-extreme/vi-AA1t3vA8?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTE&cvid=238a73448b834bb9ba36404ee3a30915&ei=39
if I were only younger....
I wanna go SO BAD...
but I wanna go to RuZZia and blow up the Kremlin with the leadership inside
like Guy Fawkes Day. which is inspirational
a Relative of mine, Miss Heller, was part of the "People's Will" crew that blew up the Czar 1n 1881
rest of the family had to flee to Odessa where moy dadooshka was born
it's a family tradition
we ain't afraid of no Russians
First blow up the kremlin
THEN...
let the RuZZians all fight EACH OTHER over who's in charge of corruption
put my family in protection
and I'll do it
i've been in the sewers and underground heat pipes near the kremlin and have maps
and I speak RuZZian and have extensive explosives and demolition training and experience
and I figured out a way to move and store tons of material in the kremlin's sewer
inquire within
Kremlin Crater Lake
Family Recreation Area attn: Planning Dept
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Regime change can work but it's the way you go about it that matters.
If they don't use toilet paper and the literacy rate is at 37% for men and 22% for women,
the regime is irrelevant.
If anything can be gained from any of this, it would be to drain the swamp and the chicken
hawks, of the Lindsey Graham, Bush and Cheney ilk from power.
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"and the literacy rate is at 37% for men and 22% for women, "
sounds like Mississippi....
they don't need none of that readin
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Winter's a comin...
Only perhaps a couple of weeks or so before winter sets in Ukraine and that may help Ukraine in freezing the battle lines somewhat.
That may be the respite Ukraine needs, it's lines are buckling around Pokrovsk and in Kursk. North Korean troops have arrived in Kursk and are likely to soon enter combat in some number.
Ukraine has taken out a massive amount of Russian Tanks and Artillery over the past couple of years or so but has understandably lost some of its own along the way as this article indicates:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/10/28/desperate-to-reinforce-a-buckling-front-line-ukraine-is-scouring-the-planet-for-hundreds-of-spare-tanks-and-fighting-vehicles/
Ukraine needs new Tanks and Armaments to see off the Russian and North Korean threat. Some stuff is coming through but it likely needs more.
So far I am not so sure that the Labour Government in the UK has contributed that much at all despite them saying that they support the Ukraine war effort. If I were to be critical of the UK I would say that we could have donated far more tanks than the 14 that we have so far donated. The Challenger 2 is a good tank but in the process of being replaced by the Challenger 3 tank. For Ukraine it has proven itself to be a superior tank to the German Leopard tank in the field with accurate long range firing and thick heavy armour that makes it difficult for the Russians to destroy. I personally think if the UK donated many more of these tanks the Ukrainian lines would hold up a lot better.
It's an expensive and continuous cost in constantly needing to resupply the Ukrainian forces but a worthwhile one I believe. Russia will be feeling the pinch and up against it. Their latest turn to North Korea I think signifies this as they are all but admitting that they aren't able to rely on themselves any more and that points to weakness showing itself on the Russian side.
Russia only went a few years in WWI and WWII. My guess is now that they are heading towards their fourth year of near total warfare that the cracks are beginning to show and will get worse into next year for Russia and it starts getting into difficult territory as a result of waging war for far too long for itself.
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brother vrs brother
slavs fighten each other
their corrupt runneth over
tanks and the mars rover
comin o'er the border
the only possible solution
is for a people's revolution
Taras Shevchenko II
Trench,
you are VERY SPECIAL
the sort of person, wild animals will approach for you to pet them and be their friend
the old ladies in yur neighborhood speak highly of you
"he's a good lad, he is, wot listens to 'is mum an he don't spit on the sidewalk where old people walk"
top O' the mornin to ya, me boy-o
Trench, pray tell me, my good fellow...
how does one become a licensed antique appraiser?
what is the path for this?
note: my money hustle was always jewelry
women who are addicted, will spend a bunch of money on this
when I was younger, worked in sales in the family jewelry store
sold to rich old ladies
got exposed to the diamond district in Manhattan which is run by die Juden
then later met diamond cutters in Israel
you can easily buy raw stones, have them cut, melt bullion and cast yur own jewelry designs in yur garage
I got to the point I could create my own molds and facet non-precios gems on my diamond wheel
could cut gems and make all kinds of stuff besides jewelry
it'd take you a few years to build up to that level and buy stones in asia for dirt cheap and smuggle them back
I smuggled diamonds taped under my testicles
ooops...forgot I left some there...
ahhhh...riiipppp.....FOOK!!! shoulda shaved first!!!!
can be no tax or minimal tax, but not a major issue
then you start thinking about horizontal integration
what other "stuff" can ya sell to rich old women (and their pets?)
afore long m'lad, you'll be wearing a tweed jacket and you'll be invited for tea
don't forget to stick out yur little pinky finger and always ask for Earl Gray, roight me lads!!!
it's a long way to tup-per-ware-ee
adding an acetyl group to THC is the cat's whiskers aka THC-A!
all them receptors in yur brain wanna bond to it
come together the lock and key
over me
and set me free
THC-A and raw Opium is the highest I've ever been
like standing on top of the world
and looking down
I could see EVERYTHING at the same time
whenever there's a cop beatin on some fella
well...I'll be there...
or whenever hungry kids have to cry themselves to sleep
I'll be there to
BUt don't expect ANY help from me!!!
I'm NOT gonna get involved in other people's problems!!!
fuhgetaboutit!!!
ain't none of them "altruists" 'round here
no suh, boss
I be on my way now...
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In RuZZia, the most important detail to know about yurself, is are ya BLACK or WHITE?
if ya live in Moscva, work at a prestigious job, yur white
everyone else is chorny Russki
if yur chorny, yur gonna go from yur current form of imprisonment to an even harsher form
http://x.com/i/status/1853133274526433698
if yur white intelligencia, the RuZZian system is EASY to "game"
if yur a chorny pridorik, get used to sleeping in Ukrainian mud
RuZZia is a VERY Darwinian nation
only the smartest survive
fortunately, for the rest of us, they will be walled away from us
AND THEY WILL PAY FOR THE WALL, CUZ THEY'RE THE ONES BUILDING IT, CUZ IT'S A PRISON WALL
so they're pretty much just gonna kill each other, and not us
that's why we give the underdog weapons
enuff to keep the fight going, but not enuff to end it
RuZZia is scraping the bottom of the barrel now, to fight in Ukraine
it's not able to fight NATO at this point, it can barely fight Ukraine
and in a couple of more years, not even that
Israel and Ukraine are each benefiting from each others wars against RuZZia and Iran
oichin manoga Ukrainian Yvray in Israel
there's a lot of contact goin on
I know where Zelensky keeps a residence in Israel
half the neighborhood there is Ukrainian yvray
you should see the "security" in that neighborhood, and count the number of M-16s and variants!!!!
although for urban use, I am an advocat for the "Krink" in 7.62x39 and spray and pray (there is NO TIME to aim, just point and shoot)
shoot as many rounds as ya can, in the shortest time, then run away and hide and wait for pursuers in a dark corner...
grenades are also good, carry as many as ya can
softball pitchers are natural grenade throwers, can throw through a window at 20 meters easily
http://x.com/wartranslated/status/1853378662478873059
ALL RuZZians, North Koreans, etc are is expendable canon fodder to wear down Ukrainian defenses
until...
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http://www.the-sun.com/news/12814894/putin-deploying-undetectable-gas-weapon-ukraine-claims/
I told ya this was coming...
raises probability of a Novichok summer
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http://www.the-sun.com/news/12814894/putin-deploying-undetectable-gas-weapon-ukraine-claims/
I told ya this was coming...
raises probability of a Novichok summer
Wonderful to see their is now a US version of The Sun, they get their hands on all the exciting news the other news services don't get.
It looks like the battlefield in Ukraine will be an evolving matter. As Russia runs out of Artillery & Tanks next year they will by default have to look at other means of waging warfare to avoid being pushed back. Ukraine will have to ready itself for these evolutions of warfare or risk being taken by surprise and losing out to them.
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yeah, I much prefer British journalism over American...
whenever I lived overseas I regularly listened to BBC on shortwave radio....
stars and stripes radio was all BS, but sometimes the music was OK
"The time now is midnight:thirty, and now for the latest news"
Received Pronunciation English...
TrenchFoot me lad, if thou can speaketh in Received Pronunciation, aka BBC English, Oxford English Dictionary, OED
and have a Savile Row tailored suit
go to NewYork City, and see if ya could get a job somewhere with a fake resume
there's a million ways to skirt around US immigration
women yur own age, and a few years younger, will fall all over themselves
me mum's father, my English grandpa, could charm the socks off every middle-aged woman he met in the USA
this ability was a big help to us when we were in NYC
women would do ANYTHING fer my grandpa just by him askin them sweetly
The Flip side, if a Marlborro Man shows up in Manchester, UK and speaks with a Tidewater Virginian accent and wears a deerskin leather jacket
girls his own age, will take him somewhere private, and display their genitalia to him
their purpose for doing this was not clear to me at the time
if I'm not mistaken, the origin of the phrase "GOB Smacked" originated from this experience
cuz I DID NOT expect that to happen!!!!
I was like WTF??
WOW!!! followed by total brain freeze
I was young and inexperienced then
but it did help to prepare me for Ukraine where the effect was ten times greater than in the UK
no brain freeze in Ukraine
I eventually got over that in the UK
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Why Ukraine Is Ready to Gamble on Trump
Kyiv has been increasingly frustrated with the outgoing Biden team, and a Kamala
Harris victory would have posed its own challenges.
U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s desire to end Russia’s war against Ukraine is sincere. But it is
understandable that Ukraine and its supporters may have concerns about how, exactly, the “deal”
promised by Trump during his campaign will look. If it does not include ways to guarantee Ukraine’s
ability to defend itself, the fighting may only stop temporarily; history shows that Russia will return
in a few years to finish what it started. The war would not truly end—it would merely be frozen.
But these same supporters of Ukraine must also be honest and recognize that a Harris administration
would have posed its own challenges, albeit for different reasons. Vice President Kamala Harris would
likely have continued President Joe Biden’s tepid policy of doing just enough to help Ukraine to survive
but never enough to succeed.
Long delays in providing key weapon systems, the illogical restrictions placed on those systems, and
the slow drip of aid far short of what Biden had the legal authority to deliver have caused immense
frustration among Ukrainians. These policies often seem to defy basic principles of military strategy
and practice. As Ukraine endures daily attacks from Russian missiles, North Korean artillery, and
Iranian drones—and with more than 10,000 North Korean soldiers now deployed on the Russian
side—many Ukrainians see the Biden team’s self-imposed limits to military aid as an open
invitation to the Kremlin to keep escalating its brutal war.
There is no doubt that Ukrainians are grateful for the support provided by Biden’s White House;
in the early days of the war, it saved their country. But as the fighting went on, U.S. aid became
a day late and a dollar short thanks to the dithering and indecisiveness coming from the Biden team.
There are many Ukrainians who will be happy to see the backside of U.S. National Security Advisor Jake
Sullivan, who is thought to be the main culprit in the slow-rolling and limiting of aid.
There is a lot more read the entire article here.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/08/trump-ukraine-russia-war-peace-deal-putin-zelensky/
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What is Zelenskyy’s 10-point peace plan?
http://war.ukraine.ua/faq/zelenskyys-10-point-peace-plan/
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ok, sign the surrender
but first, do us a liitle favor and BLAME IT ON BIDEN
sincerely, The Musk-Trump Austerity program
if it don't benefit Trump or Elon then cut it!!!
Future proprieter of The White Boy Testicle Museum
a 40 acre multi-story theme park of caucasion castration memes
staffed exclusively by scantily attired black and latino women
located on I-95 in Krimsterville next to Pete's Propane
Trump has only one ball
JD Vance two, but very small
and elon the karma chameleon
has a tiny scrotum
barely visible to the naked eye
god bless America
Trump Greed the slaves
The Grift that keeps on Grifting in Griftopia
The Rich get richer and the poor vote for Republicans to make the rich even richer
THERE! That outta show 'em!!!!!
wot a ridiclous bunch of dumb-ass hillbillys
PS
looking forward to return of wife's relatives from the war
I hope eventually I will be able to talk to them about the experience
right now every conversation is self-censored on both sides
war will be over, but 100% on Putin's terms
Gaza will be strangled and finished
the real action will be on what happens now between the USA/Israel and Iran
and if Trump settles the Ukrainian war on Putin's terms, will Putin return the favor to Trump over Iran?
or will he oppose it and support Iran?
US would like to launch ground penetrating bombs against Iranian underground sites which are too big to be carried by any aircraft that Israel has
it needs to be a B-1, B-2 or B-52 bomber and they can only carry ONE of these bombs
they can fly from NATO bases
Navy can launch gazillions of sea skimming cruise missiles against Iranian targets
48 hr of a full on NATO/IAF air war against Iran would be pretty brutal for them
i'd imagine after 48 hrs they'd have complete air suporiority over Iran
and start takin target after target off the list
until there's NOTHIN left
then Shah Trump Persian Oil and Gas Monopoly, plus Rosneft bonus for signing Ukraine "Peace Treaty"
Jarred can sell Trump Condos to the Chinese bundled with pre-signed Shah Trump Endorsed investor visa
Trump Bible Revised Edition
Trump is Jesus in the new edition!!!!
verily for the lord shall send to thee
a savior, and that when his ear is pierced
ye shall know that he is my messenger
the blood of Trump
is the MERCY of GOD!!!!!!
Hail Trump! Hail Trump! Hail Trump!
at first, I thought, this is the WORST ACID TRIP, I've ever had in my life
then to my horror and dismay, I learn, "oh NO!" this is that thing that's referred to as "reality"
and it's the worst trip, I've EVER BEEN ON! in my life!!
dewd, where's my country?
I wonder what it's like living illegally on a little house boat in one of the canals in Amsterdam?
I gotta check out the northern part that empties into the bay above Amsterdam
maybe I could stay on a boat there
and then have an inflatable with electric motor to take me into the city
need to monitor the weather charts for long stretches of bad weather
and make sure I have good shelter in the bay from the wind
part of the deal I have with the monkey is we eat the same food and smoke the same weed
when he's not working, he's free to do whatever he wants which is mainly sleep
I get about 10 english channels on dutch cable + I got tubi, netflix, amazon prime and youtube
so i'm covered,
everyone in stores speak fluent English
DHL delivers from USA in 4 days
the monkey is VERY protective of me, and doesn't like strangers getting too close to me, he'll snarl when someone does that
he's a GOOD MONKEY!!!!
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we'll cut
IRS audit spending
Obamacare
medicaid
food stamps
we'll raise retirement age to 70
we'll put anyone who looks like they might vote democrat in a deportation camp
we'll repeal medicare price negotiations
we'll reduce spending on public education
we'll get rid of renewable energy sources to raise fossil fuel revenue
we'll put tarriffs on all imports mainly paid for by the poor
we'll cut taxes and regualations for billionaires
we'll keep wages artificially low
all spending not beneficial to Trump or Elon will be ELIMINATED
all federal employees who are not trump loyalists will be replaced by Trump loyalists
for a complete government takeover
WHO are the COMMUNISTS?
an oligarchy ruled by a leader with a personality cult
it was YOU ALL ALONG!
all that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians died for
will NOW be given to Putin by Trump on a silver platter
who will receive Real Estate in Moscva City Center for a Trump Tower and Rosneft stock in return for sellin out Ukraine to Putin
yeah keepitallism
russia spent hundreds of billions and hundreds of thousands of lives
for a few thousand sq kilometers of complete ruins
what an amazing accomplishment
I can see why Fascism is so gosh darned popular, cuz of all the amazing results that it produces
let the exodus from Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova begin
and after Trump sells out Ukraine, and gets PAID for it!
Ukraine will receive NOTHING from the USA becuase of Elon Musk's austerity Budget
and Russia will have all confiscated assets returned to it!!
Thanks ONLY to Trump, Putin has won the WAR!!!!
and I'm having a REALLY BAD ACID TRIP
http://youtu.be/mEPQXz-CkKQ
50 years after Devo Donald Trump rules America
we are Devo
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Well after a brief look at Devo I am glad the 1980s came along :D
Krim, I know you had a brief foray into Politics before and didn't like the people out for themselves, type of people you got there, etc as you once mentioned on here. However, I can think of no one better placed on here to stand up for the Democrats than you! How about it? You are always saying that you never shy away from anything hard, make up excuses or are slack.
You have the enthusiasm otherwise you wouldn't constantly bang on about it on here, you have the money, and you probably have the connections. Quite probably you have the sort of personality that would go down well also, a bit extrovert possibly, intelligent, know how people work, etc. There's nothing to stop you from joining the Democratic Party and getting involved now and ascending all the way to the top fast! You're at the right age and experience to do it. I don't know how high you might go but who knows maybe you could even become the Democratic nomination for President.
If people that are capable stand back then next time against the Republicans, Vance, etc the same will happen. They'll be another Kamala lamo who won't stand a chance and the Republicans will get another of their guys in Office. Defeat for the Democrats is already written for the 2028 Presidential Race until someone with some quality on the Democrats side steps forward, they have no one at the moment but that someone could be you.
Let's face it what else have you really got to do that is worthwhile? And at the end of the day you can't possibly do any worse than Kamala lol.
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I am an old man who yells at clouds and rednecks
nothing more tha that
I will soon be a musical mime political refugee in the EU living in Amsterdam
with a highly trained monkey, pushed to the limit of what it is possible to train a monkey to do
not only to seperate tourists from their euros
but also able to scale over and under security systems and place "packages"
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I am an old man who yells at clouds and rednecks
nothing more tha that
I will soon be a musical mime political refugee in the EU living in Amsterdam
with a highly trained monkey, pushed to the limit of what it is possible to train a monkey to do
not only to seperate tourists from their euros
but also able to scale over and under security systems and place "packages"
Both Biden & Trump are older than you ;)
You could get involved in Democratic Politics and train a protégé to run for you, there would likely be many eligible candidates to choose from with promise and if the right type able and willing to be moulded by you to be the right person and become a leader worthy of taking on the Republicans. Not me though I'm not American lol.
It takes people like you getting involved to make a difference to Democratic fortunes Krim, you have the power to change things, most other people do not they are just hopeful supporters.
You are thinking of going to Amsterdam? That will be a nice change of scene for you. Sometimes on the other hand it is better to be away from what you most despise then it doesn't bother you so much I find. I can't stand the British Monarchy and hate seeing and hearing about them, also some British Politicians, being abroad is great as I don't have to keep seeing them up on the news. Abroad I rarely care what the political goings on of a country are as I am often unfamiliar with it and it's not my country so why care. It feels better not knowing in a way :)
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I am the skinny Buddah
who no longer has desires for the things of this world
EXCEPT....
to ridicule rednecks and imbeciles of various sorts, whenver they appear on RWD!
consider me "The Mad Idiot Greeter"
I will beat them up, but no point in stealing their wallets
becuz they will be emptied by the Trump/Musk Austerity Program
and they did this to THEMSELVES to own the LIBS
once again proving their COMPLETE and TOTAL idiocy
why would I want to be a member of ANY club that would accept a deranged NARCOMAN like me as a member?
when I look at my fellow man, why would I want to have anything to do with them?
most of them are disgusting fascists of low intellect
how could I do, as Jesus commands me, to love my fellow man, when you consider the deplorable state of most of humanity
it would be just an empty gesture
but ya know what?
chicken butt!!!
no, really...
KARMA IS GONNA BE SUCH A BITCH!
yur goona be that freakin coyote holding a stick of dynamite, trying to blow up the Road Runner
and it blows up, and burns his face COMPLETELY BLACK!!!!
this is gonna be all you Rednecks
Beep! Beep!!
so instead of dealing with THAT completely phuqued up reality...
I reverse engineer the AIs from www.github.com
take them apart
see how they work
and reduce them to their simplest possible configuration
to make a new kind of simpler AI based on the work of Soviet academician Michael Lvovitch Tsetlin, who invented the Tsetlin automaton in the CCCP
a western Ukrainian Jew, whose Math publications from the 60s are like GOLD today
synthesizing new AI out of old Soviet technology combined with modern computing is way more fun for me than blowing up stuff for the "Revolution" whether in Russia or "elsewhere"
more mellow, less intense, no guilt trip later
and I can AVOID contact with humans
this seems optimal for me
I don't care about "The People's Will" anymore
a hermit who leaves the hamster wheel to the other hamsters and marches to a beat of a different drummer
my motto is "Phuque You ALL"
also, I was studying the behavior of squirrels
to search for deterministic patterns and see if this can be applied to humans as a statistical experiment
monkey and I have the accordion down
and are still refining the choreography
he will be ready with a toy piano and I with a violin by summer
cops only let us play 3 days at most in one spot before we gotta move on
so ya gotta build up a list of optimal spots to rotate through
and deal with other buskers to
You see, you don't have to live like a refugee (don't have to live like a refugee)
21st Century AI programmers are the 19th century poets
their version of Frankenstein's Monster will be completely different from what Mary Shelly envisioned two centuries ago
will I one day return to Crimea
climb the mountains to the ruins of the Crimean Goths
and recite the ritual in yiddish which is close enuff to low german as to be understood
while the same will be done in Chernobil behind the Exclusion Zone Mini-mart
according to Kabbalah Ritual Magik
you will also need to acquire powerful talismans for the Magik to work
that will be increasingly difficult to acquire
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to ridicule rednecks and imbeciles of various sorts, whenver they appear on RWD!
consider me "The Mad Idiot Greeter"
I will beat them up, but blah, blah, blah
You are impotent. They've had deranged people yelling the
"The end is near since they've had street corners" You are not
original, the first nor the last to be ignored by anyone with a brain.
why would I want to be a member of ANY club that would accept a deranged NARCOMAN
blah, blah, blah...........
You aren't a member of any club of like minded fellows. Nobody wants you to be part of their
group, that's why you are here ranting and raving in the last place that hasn't kicked you to the
curb.
blah, blah, blah
a hermit who leaves the hamster wheel to the other hamsters and marches to a beat of a different drummer
my motto is "Phuque You ALL"
You are the George Jetsen yelling
"Jane stop this crazy thing!" Everyone else here is Astro
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/4Z5zBIv2DCo8oyAiZX/200w.gif?cid=6c09b9520wgw7gtcm8cdd53q7qsj8hik5l2ty8ozbnkocz6k&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
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" nor the last to be ignored by anyone with a brain. "
you wanna fight with gloves off...fine...I'll take my goves off and hit ya
WACK!
cuz see...
the "brain thing"
THAT is the problem right there innit?
I mean...isn't it?
isn't it what you and RFK Jr both have in common?
FOOKIN BRAIN WORMS!!!
if they had Special Olympics for Brain Worms, you guys would be spasming across the finish line together
so Mr Pot stop yur jive talkin about Mr Kettle
cuz that dawg don't hunt
oh no...
did that hit TOO Hard?
are you OK?
are you able to withstand the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune that is SURE to be COMING YOUR WAY becuz of what you and all the other lemmings voted for?
how you must yearn for the cliff
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you wanna fight with gloves off...fine...I'll take my goves off and hit ya
Unless you bore me, sure I'll be your Huckleberry.
PS. Brain surgery does not make one smarter. But I'll keep my goves on
just so as to not hurt anyone too much.
I do have a family to support so I have limited time to spend at this, I can't sit at my keyboard all day.
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yes...
be a good lad and run along boy...so ya don't get hurt...
now with President Trump you will be safe from the menace of women becoming men, so they can check out yur pale scrawny weenie at the urinal in a public Men's Room
and you think I'm the "Sick MFer"
WTF is wrong with you?
yur actually worried about someone checkin out yur junk?
and that influences yur voting?
I got news fer ya, yur junk ain't ALL THAT special
and besides every idjut knows
you ALWAYS go pee in the stall and NOT the freakin urinal!!!
ONLY the GAY dewds use the urinals, those weren't trannies next to ya examining "the merchandise"
they were just regular Fem style HOMOSEXUALS!!! known as GURLS or GYRLS!
catching sight of some straight white guy's weekie like yurs
man you are one phuqued up white boy
who doesn't know "shit from Shinola"
what happens to your "case worker" that will be cut under the Trump/Musk Austerity Program?
no more speech therapy for you
Mr Mumbles
i'm SORRY...is it TOO SOON?
if it's too soon, I'll put it in reverse....
oops accidentally put it in forward
do you remember the CAT Scans, the difficulty of trying to sleep in a hospital bed?
have ya had enuff? or ya want me to "finish ya off"
a Coup de grâce mercy killin
the crowd sez "thumbs up"
and I but a gladiator in the arena
must yield to their wishes
so I raise my sword high in victory
turn my back to my fallen enemy
and then,
I fart in his general direction
before marching off the field
to get intoxicated
such is the life of a Victorious RWD Gladiator
PS
what will the outcome be of the great Trump sellout to Putin?
what comes out of the war vrs what went into the war?
more than a million slavs killed or wounded
sanctions hit on GDP
reduction in sale of oil and gas
hundreds of billion in equipment losses
hundreds of billions in direct costs
the war cost plus sanctions cost nearly a year's worth of Russian GDP
and it COULD well be over in a matter of months
Russia will get all occupied territory, but it'd 80% in ruins
all seized assets returned
all sanctions lifted
Ukraine to be demilitarized
No Nato/EU for 20 years
Exxon Mobile Drilling in Siberia
Trump overturns all previous cases against him
Try to stop the growth in non-white populations who tend to vote democratic
focus on austerity to lead tax custs for billionaires
get rid of Obamacare, medicaid, food stamps, foreign aid, etc
keep defense and scale back IRS, privitize post office to Fed Ex and UPS
tarriffs on EVERYTHING to paid 90% by the poor
medicare is just a voucher to an insurance company that doesn't cost the government anything
retirement starts at age 70
retirement homes are emptied and shutdown to save money and residents will now be bussed to pick fruit, becuz mexicans have been deported
an Elon Musk AI generated Austerity Budget program that turns lemons into lemonaid
new facial recognition camera that detect race in real-time and alerts law enforcement for deportation of all brown hued future Democrat voters
prove yur not Mexican after you've been deported to Mexico!!!
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A good run down of the situation at present in Ukraine:
http://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-trump-putin-zelenskyy-latest-12541713
Basically Ukraine needs more help from wherever it can get it.
Charity donations are down, assuming that got where it was supposed to go. Ben Wallace expresses doubt over whether Labour are giving Ukraine much in the way of help other than supportive words.
Potentially Russia might be trying to crack Ukraine with the help of extra Korean troops & Armaments before their Soviet stockpiles run out next year. This is the point where Ukraine needs to find extra help from wherever it can get it from.
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this time next year, every western country will be working on an austerity budget due to slowdown
Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other officials. after a 2 hour private meeting with Putin
no one other than Trump and Putin, know what they talk about
sports?
fishing?
how to phuque up Trench's life?
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Unless Ukraine has no other choice than to sign a peace treaty due to it's lines cracking too badly, and/or lack of Armaments, Munitions I think it would be a grave mistake for Ukraine to strike a peace deal with Russia that gave away any Ukrainian land.
This year is nearing its end, next year Russia will only have a number of months left before its Artillery & Tanks start to run out. In theory Russia won't have been defeated but in practice it will mean it all but has. So Ukraine is just a number of months away from that situation, throwing in the towel just before then will be an action of weakness. Ukraine's best chance of victory lie in perseverance and enduring until Russia is exhausted and falling apart.
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Sounds sort of naive. Russia isn't running out of anything. As I understand it, their factories are on war footing and are turning out increasing supplies of war materials.
I think it is the USA that is running short of war materials as we haven't yet geared up very much. China might have an easy time against us.
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ukraine will run out of air defense first
then russia will focus on blockading energy and food
surrender or starve
Trump Jr. is already laughing at Zelensky's fate on Twutter/X
it's all about REVENGE for the pefect call with Zelensky and Trump will do WTF Putin will be paying Trump to do
which is to be a broker for Putin's acquisition of an additional 1/5 of Ukraine after Crimea
Russians can return to leasing Ukrainian farmland to Chinese for $$$ and Russian oligarchs get it instead of Ukrainian ones
is about the only change
other than the complete and total destruction of every major structure in Novo Russiya
total win for Putin
Putin HAD to destroy Novo Russiya in order to save Novo Russiya
same thing Trump is gonna do to America
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I think it is the USA that is running short of war materials as we haven't yet geared
up very much. China might have an easy time against us.
China can't even get to the USA unless they arrive in container ships. China couldn't
make it to Hawaii, we would have to rescue them long before they arrived.
Trump isn't going to start a war with China.
You were in the Navy. How many blue water Navies exist in the world today?
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Trump isn't going to start a war with China.
I don't understand your comment.
Did I suggest USA would start a war with any country?
But we don't have to start a war to be involved in a war if attacked.
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How many blue water Navies exist in the world today?
From AI
As of recent assessments, there are approximately 10 to 13 countries with full "blue-water" navies, meaning they have the capacity to operate globally and maintain a sustained presence in open oceans. These countries have significant capabilities for power projection and can operate far from their home shores. Here are some of the prominent blue-water navies:
United States – The U.S. Navy is considered the most capable and largest blue-water navy, with a significant number of aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, and other surface vessels.
China – The Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has rapidly expanded, with carriers, advanced destroyers, and submarines.
Russia – Russia retains blue-water capabilities with its nuclear submarines and limited power projection with surface vessels.
United Kingdom – The Royal Navy has significant blue-water capabilities, especially with its Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers.
France – France maintains a blue-water navy through its Charles de Gaulle carrier, nuclear submarines, and global bases.
India – India's navy has been enhancing its blue-water capabilities with carriers and submarines.
Japan – Though limited by its constitution, the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force has extensive ocean-going capabilities.
Italy, Spain, and Australia – These countries maintain smaller blue-water capabilities, often relying on alliances to project power.
South Korea – South Korea’s navy has growing blue-water capabilities with recent developments in its surface fleet and submarine forces.
The classification can vary depending on the specific criteria, such as the ability to operate across oceans, conduct amphibious assaults, or maintain supply lines far from home, but the above countries generally qualify by contemporary standards.
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China – The Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has rapidly expanded, with carriers, advanced destroyers, and submarines.
ML, you were in the Navy. You've been on a "cruise"
Currently the Chinese have 12 nuke boats, total in their entire Navy, all the rest are diesel. They can't steam
to the USA. They wouldn't make it even if we didn't try to stop them. Calling it a blue water Navy is a joke.
They aren't going to have a blue water Navy some day in the future either (in my opinion). The Chinese can
attack one of their close neighbors, but they can't get here from there.
From CNN
China’s newest nuclear-powered submarine sank earlier this year, US officials say
http://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/politics/chinese-nuclear-powered-submarine-sank/index.html#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20latest%20China,48%20diesel%2Dpowered%20attack%20submarines.
From Google
"The Chinese Blue Water Navy is not fully mature, but considering their constant growth, China may achieve this status by 2049 , which is a deadline set by President Xi for his military to become a “World-Class Force”. Aug 18, 2023"
Bold by me
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the war with China will be a ROCKET War and an economic war, the USA dreams it will run a naval blockade on China
but an hour after the war starts, it won't have any ships to do that with, no blockade, no DooLittle Attack, No Midway either
only unopposed Chinese missile submarines off California and Washington
ergo, washington surrenders when they're put in "check"
otherwise we're gonna straight off trade a Trident II for a Kung POW!!!
and, aint't NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT!
China will want the USA to stop the economic war and close all military bases in Asia
meanwhile, a new multi-billion dollar Chinese Religious Organisation has become established in Houston, Texas...
straight from the Main Land
The Chinese Communist Party is running the biggest, wealthiest church in Texas!!!!
WTF?
Russians are gonna use Trump to steer the USA and China into an economic conflict
which will bring Russia and China closer together...and when you remove Russian sanctions....
it means Putin is gonna change his relationship with China, to be more on Russia's terms and less on China's
later, when the REAL conflict COMES between the USA and China
the Chinese are ALREADY WAY, WAY ahead of usa with DF-21 to DF-41 missiles, later DF-51, + adding AI ship tracking radar and manueverable ICBMS to make interception more difficult
they can be kept in caves, old warehouses, anywhere, then secretly moved and fired, cuz these are MOBILE ICBMs, something the USA doesn't even have ONE of
China doesn't have much of a Navy, cuz they have NOWHERE to put it, that's one of the things that makes Taiwan so attractive to them + TSMC, etc
while the USA sits there with 50+ year old MinuteMan IIIs and 60+ year old B-52s
they will launch brand new state-of-art, DF-41s by the THOUSANDS at usa bases and ships in the Pacific
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-41
the USA already has incorporated Israeli Iron Dome into SM-3 ABM
they even have a special feature to use them with Israeli Radars I can't talk about
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=sm-3+missile
these will be easily overwhelmed by MASSIVE numbers of Chinese rockets
which they can make more of and cheaper than the USA
how did the USA win WWII?
same way is how China will beat the USA
China can make HUGE NUMBERS of missiles
cuz they don't buy them for a "CRAZY" price from Defense Contractors
no...the government makes them theirselves, and pays "cost"
and they're about 20 times cheaper than what the USA pays
the numbers are how they plan on winning
China has almost no bases for a Blue Water Navy
while the USA has China surrounded by bases
all these bases will BELONG TO US, say the Chinese
the USA is an old power like Spain
that'll lose it like they did
in 2050 rich Chinese dewds will be driving EVs through derelict America hustling red neck girls in dilapidated trailer parks
and this board will be AWD - American Women Discussion - but in Mandarin
you can buy a a stock chinese "agricultural" drone for crop spraying for between $2,500 to $5,000
and modify and upgrade it to become a small long range military cruise missile
smuggle hundreds into your enemies territory
and wreck havoc on the whole economy with a couple of dozen people
who are all undercover with day jobs
r/c model planes can be transformed into V-1 Buzz Bombs with pinpoint accuracy
thanks to a combination of low cost, readily available, micro-computer, video and radio technology you can buy off ebay
authorities would NEVER find ya
who do you think's doing all the "UFOs"
you think they're all Chinese weather balloons, high school science fair experiments, etc
no, they're Experimental "FOO" Drones
China owns the largest Private Airport in America North of Houston
it's all gated off
cuz it's a FOO Drone Factory
PS
Good thing America now has a stable genuis to guide it!!!!
Bone Spurs be damned
Trump will be well paid for the services he renders to all oligarchs both foreign and domestic
so he can donate his presidential salary for the PR to show how caring he is
and Fox will do a 1 hour show about it
the planation masters have talked the barefoot white farmers into attacking Fort Sumpter for them
so the federal govt don't tell states what to do
what a bunch of illiterate dumb phuque imbeciles
mah name is Billy Bob
and I can write mah name....
Billy Bob scratches an X on the ground, and looks up with a toothless grin wearing a red MAGA Hat
vrs a People's Liberation Army Billion Dollar Drone Factory with Thousands of Asian Women using sophisticated machines making gazillions of drones 24/7
who ya think's gonna win that? Billy Bob? LOL!!!!
Ukraine is gone...
what kinda deal did Trump make with Putin?
if it didn't include Iran
then Putin is just gonna pay Trump for the favor of handing him Ukraine on a sterling silver platter and keep the platter to
and NOT pay America anything
so Trump is doing this just to enrich himself
Israel will be pissed if this is how it "goes down"
so that's why Trump gave them Mike Huckabee as US ambassador, a far right, Christian Wack-a-doon who sells Christian coloring books to the masses
who's one of them rather rare Evengelical Jew Lovers, instead of raging anti-semite
good thing, I'm retired, and can laugh at EVERYTHING!!!
cuz if I were younger, I already would've been "called up" into the IDF
giving me a week to decide to either report in or flee to America
and i'd have to go through all that shit, yet again
well now, that tide has turned more to Israel's favor
with the exception of the Iranian question
which, I'd listen to what Putin says about it...
when the war with Ukraine is over with, he doesn't need Iran any more
and he wouldn't mind their oil and gas being temporarily disrupted by a war
the only reason he WOULDN'T give it to Trump
as becuz Trump didn't ask for it, just a square block in city center, and 10% ownership of Rosneft
and nothin for the USA
as the brokerage fee for Ukraine
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ML, you were in the Navy. You've been on a "cruise"
Currently the Chinese have 12 nuke boats, total in their entire Navy, all the rest are diesel. They can't steam to the USA. They wouldn't make it even if we didn't try to stop them. Calling it a blue water Navy is a joke.
They aren't going to have a blue water Navy some day in the future either (in my opinion). The Chinese can attack one of their close neighbors, but they can't get here from there.
Bill, I never meant to imply that China might attack mainland USA or even Hawaii, etc.
The war with China will start with attacks on USA military assets in the areas around China.
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"Bill, I never meant to imply that China might attack mainland USA or even Hawaii, etc."
YES HE DID BEEL!!!!
he's tryin to trick you!
but you are SMART and STRONG
he can't trick YOU!!!
only I am yur friend
is that...the precious...????
yessssss...
the precious!!!!!
schmegle knows!!!
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Bill, I never meant to imply that China might attack mainland USA or even Hawaii, etc.
The war with China will start with attacks on USA military assets in the areas around China.
China might invade an ally like Taiwan. They aren't going to attack Americans.
In the case with Taiwan, I think China can ONLY destroy the place. It would look like the
areas that Russia fought in. They would send in 80,000 missiles then bombard it from the
sea and the air, then invade it amphibiously. It would look like the surface of the moon.
Europe would be more than happy to stop buying Chinese goods once they saw the human
carnage that came with the attack. China isn't nice enough to anyone to have any goodwill.
If China lost the American markets and EU markets, they might have several million deaths
from starvation. They can't feed themselves, they import most of their inputs for manufacturing.
The Chinese aren't dumb, they know all of this.
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Xi Jinping has ordered the People’s Liberation Army to be ready to seize Taiwan by 2027. Whether he launches an invasion may depend on President Trump’s defense secretary. If confirmed by the Senate, Army National Guard veteran and Fox News host Pete Hegseth, Mr. Trump’s nominee, will have to confront the collapse of deterrence in Europe and the Middle East, resource constraints on Capitol Hill, recruitment challenges, and a deteriorating balance of power in the Indo-Pacific. The only way to promote peace is to go to war on day one—not with China, Russia or Iran but with the Pentagon bureaucracy.
The first task is to fix the U.S. Navy. America needs a maritime industrial base that can counter China’s. Pentagon requirements for building maritime assets involve too many uncoordinated stakeholders. The Pentagon establishes war-fighting requirements—such as the number of missiles on a ship—without regard to interdependent technical specifications such as that ship’s center of gravity. When those technical specifications aren’t tightly linked to war-fighting requirements, the mismatch can cause underperformance or unplanned costs and time. The Defense Department should return to the board model that served the Navy well until the 1960s. The Navy would have a forum of senior stakeholders with a chairman empowered to decide both requirements and specifications, ensuring that these work in harmony.
The Navy should also create an office focused on expediting the development and deployment of certain war-fighting technologies, similar to the Rapid Capabilities Office at the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Space Force. The next secretary should insist on more flexible processes to deliver unmanned surface, aerial and underwater vehicles with speed and at scale. He must also work with Congress to help shipyards attract and retain talent.
Rebuilding the maritime industrial base can also help save Aukus—the security partnership between Australia, the U.K. and the U.S.—which is in danger of stalling. Under the Aukus agreement, the U.S. Navy intends to sell Australia at least three Virginia-class attack submarines by the early 2030s. To realize this goal, the Navy needs to build more than today’s 1.2 hulls a year and shrink maintenance backlogs that have sidelined nearly 40% of the fleet. Addressing these challenges will demand consistent funding, which will come only if the defense secretary articulates the importance of sea power and presents a coherent shipbuilding plan. The secretary can get Aukus off life support by accelerating U.S. submarine deployments to western Australia, bringing more Australian sailors onto U.S. boats, and establishing a naval reactors organization in Canberra.
The secretary must also confront the West’s depleted arsenal of critical munitions, especially air-defense missiles. In a conflict with China, the U.S. could run out of some munitions within a week. The next secretary must rebuild America’s arsenal by moving to maximum production rates of the Long-Range Anti-Ship Missile, Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (Extended Range), Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile, Harpoon, Standard Missile 6 and other munitions. Wherever possible, these systems should be equipped with advanced energetic materials to extend their range and destructive power.
Ships, submarines and missiles are all expensive. To save money, the next secretary must enforce fixed-price contracting and force private-sector contractors to acquire products and services that are researched and developed on their dime, not the U.S. taxpayer’s. The Defense Department’s cost-plus contracting model has destroyed competition and innovation while exploding costs. Sen. John McCain mandated fixed-price commercial contracts in 2016, but Congress repealed that mandate five years later, after his death. Lawmakers should rectify this mistake by re-establishing fixed-price contracting and requiring the defense secretary to sign off on any cost-plus contract.
To free up more money, the secretary can reduce the civilian workforce, the Joint Staff, the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the general and flag officer corps, and the diversity, equity and inclusion bureaucracy. He can sell non-war-fighting assets such as golf courses and resurrect a 2015 Pentagon study that outlined a path to save $125 billion over five years.
Congress can help by ensuring the Defense Department complies with the Federal Acquisition Streamlining Act of 1994. This statute, which the Pentagon violates frequently, aims to prevent the government from wasting money on developing capabilities that can be purchased from the commercial sector. NASA predicted it would have cost $4 billion to build the Falcon 9 rocket, much more than the $400 million it cost Elon Musk’s SpaceX to build it. It stands to reason, then, that by adhering to the law’s commercial-preference provision, the Defense Department can save tens of billions annually. Additionally, Congress can give the Pentagon authority to use appropriated but unspent funds of between $10 billion and $15 billion per year.
Assuming China sticks to its Taiwan timeline, the next secretary has two years to prevent World War III. To do so, he must put the Pentagon on a war footing, firing any bureaucrat unable or unwilling to work at a wartime pace. The lack of accountability at the Defense Department—after the shameful Afghanistan withdrawal, the failure to deter Russia from invading Ukraine, and the current secretary’s disappearance without informing the White House—has undermined confidence in military leadership. Armed with a bold agenda, the next secretary can regain the trust of the American people and the fear of America’s enemies.
Mr. Gallagher, a Journal contributor, is head of defense for Palantir Technologies and a distinguished fellow at the Hudson Institute. He represented Wisconsin’s Eighth Congressional District (2017-24) and was chairman of the Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party.
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China might invade an ally like Taiwan. They aren't going to attack Americans.
The war could start as the result of some 'accidents' in the area around Taiwan or elsewhere.
A Chinese ship rams a USA ship, or vice versa . . . and the 'victim' must retaliate.
USA ship commanders get tired of Chinese planes buzzing their ship, and shoot one of them down. China must retaliate.
Remember the Gulf of Tonkin . . . whether fake or not.
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Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other officials. after a 2 hour private meeting with Putin
You don't even know if they've talked, does that means we should read your speculation about it?
Post a link about what's been discussed or speculate on whether the payola has stopped flowing to
Joe Biden now that he is wearing diapers.
Joe picks a dead dandelion for Jill, she tosses it before getting on the plane.
http://youtu.be/KyQF9bzyl1c
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BEEL
have another glass of "SO WHAT"?
A Honkin Tonkin sweetheart? Viet Minh Cong Ho!
On the next exit on the Ho Chi Minh trail
I was always afraid of Asian women
they love you long time at Long Bình
these thin, teenaged tiny brown-skinned girls with long dark hair
their age didn't matter, ciz I was 18, and NOBODY cared or even knew how old they were!
the way they stared at my willy up close, for such a long time, scrutinizing it made me feel uncomfortable (like they were thinkin they were gonna MAKE somethin from it...
could they be thinkin of makin a coin purse from my scrotum,
was that WHY they were "checkin it out"
that's WHAT my Willy started thinkin!!!!
what were they thinking...???
I couldn't tell, at all from their facial expression, which seemed intensely serious, so I naturally began to assume it WAS BAD!!!!
and as my thinking grew darker
the more aroused I became from the intense scrutiny not to even mention the firm grip that was also applied
PS
BEEL, I am just a paper boy and not the freaking senior newspaper editor....
he's right over here....
can ya give that link to BEEL
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/13/trump-putin-meetings-interpreter-notes/2565471002/
THAT would be GREAT!!!
I hope you all can come in this Saturday...that would be great...
http://fudzilla.com/news/pc-hardware/60065-us-electronic-prices-to-increase-by-357
so buy yur PCs in January!!! that would be great!
once more, I would just like to take a little time
and thank each and every one of you for reading my posts!!!!
I really feel like we share a special bond
that you are my "special" friend
no...I mean it...really...
if I was gonna share my last box of Powder Milk Biscuits with somebody, it would be YOU!!!
I like you JUST THE WAY YOU ARE!!!
we can go to Mr Roger's Neighborhood and be Crack Dealers in Mr Roger's Neighborhood
yo' wussup FRED!!!
a nickle bag, a nickle bag
a nickle bag of DOPE
a nickle bag, a nickle bag
a nickle bag of HOPE
America's Gen-Z
land of Grozny
from sea to micro-plastic filled sea
to be, or not to be
Krim Dawg-Dawg Rap-Apocalypse - Original 'Gangsta Media LLC Detroit, MI MOTOWN RECORDS BLDG
BOP! Turn me loose!
where's you get that FUNK from?
gotta shoot them with my BOP Gun!!!
In the city, in the town
don't let yur guard down
come all the people get the funk
en garde!!!
protect yo' self
Get Down! Get Down! Baby!!!
play that funky music White Boy!!!
BEEL,
please stay on topic, and find out wha it is and then TELL ME, cuz I FORGOT!!!!
if you could do that...
THAT would be great!!!!
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BEEL
have another glass of "SO WHAT"?
BEEL,
please stay on topic, and find out wha it is and then TELL ME, cuz I FORGOT!!!!
if you could do that...
THAT would be great!!!!
You were making up stories about
1. Putin tells Trump what to do about Ukraine as if Putin, not Trump decides what the USA does.
2. You are making up that Trump and Putin are having phone conversations AND
3. You are making up the content of the phone calls AND
4. If in fact if they were having phone calls, the content would be top secret. So you won't be privy to them
5. You have your own rant thread for when you want to sputter around making stuff up.
If you could stop making things up, then stating them as fact in this thread that would be great.
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WOT?
you think I'm FOX News making up stuff!!!
we'll get back to that - but first a message from our sponsor
NEIN! ich bin ein "Visionary"
I haz... visions
show me Trump's translator notes to Putin from 2 HOUR Helsinki meeting - ya can't! cuz Trump took em for "safe keeping" and she signed an NDA that will send her to JAIL
Translator to Zelensky got him impeached
I, um, guess ya forgot
as one of the world's leading Visionaries
let me tells ya
that the first lemonade stand that sells grape juice will be the Market Leader
see, it's this kinda visionary visions that sets me apart from ordinary men
who end up being salesman of one kind or another
hey! ya wanna buy this stuff I'm sellin - if ya do, that would be great...
now ya unnerstand?
I ain't like you a'tall
i'm a completely DIFFERENT kinda creature
who sees the world through his mind
and not his eyes
homeland security and tarriffs coming,
poor won't be able to get a loan
gotta get down baby
homeland security's coming
shoulda been gone long ago
I don't like killing the poison dart frogs in Costa Rica, cuz they're so pretty
but it's just so darned easy making top quality neurotoxin this way
I guess it's good I have no conscience
that's why the Rabbi picked me in the first place
he could tell just from my eyes
later, I could see that same look in others in the IDF and Arabs we fought and Russians to
the look of a natural born killer
who are set apart from normal people
becuz we used to kill people for MONEY$$
and it was LEGAL (sorta)
you become branded by all the fires you've been in
at least I ain't a gentile Russki
which means not only do I have a much more ESTHÉTIQUE Willy
but I don't have to get all them Russian tattoos to cover up the scars
an old bare chested dewd with a LOT of scars including starfish puckered bullet holes
always throws off the young dewds
and as soon as you see the expression change in their eyes
is the moment you jab yur fist into their throat
or yur hidden knife into their liver
The Legend of "The Krimster Kid" who ran rampant over Crimea, Tel Aviv, and Texan Swamps
a minor Folk Legend attributed to a bad batch of Skooma that caused mass hallucinations throughout those regions
from The Encyclopedia of Human History - Before the First AI War and The Fall of Man
Volume 2 of Anne Frank's Diaries
is my only holy text
I used the same tricks I read from her diary when I lived in a military barracks
ever find something directly useful you read in torah? or the bible?
Anne Franks' 2nd Diary even has a section on trouble shooting broken electrical appliances
which is highly advanced considering that it was written in 1945 expecially the part about Computers
Anne Franks Diarry Volume #2 even showed me how to cheat on my taxes
betacha never read that in no bible!!!!
ha! making stuff up!!!!
kids today...
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WOT?
Breath in, breath out.
You are going to blow a head gasket, been there done that, got the brain surgery done
and have the scars to prove it.
Shalom
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I liked old american cars from the 1950s and early 60s because of how danged simple the engines were...
back in the late 70s, 1 had a towed 67 Ford Fairlane that I bought for $100
and managed to charge the battery and get it to turn over
and saw I had a head gasket leak on the engine block
went to the auto-parts store bought the Ford Gasket Head kit for $14.95
unbolted the top of the 289 V-8 engine and got a paint scraper and scraped off the old gasket
and polished the surface with emory
then put on the new gasket
bolted the top of the engine block back on
changed the oil and filters, borrowed a friend's timing light and he showed me how to use it
put new plugs in
and the $100 car ran smooth as silk with about $50 parts and fluids and all day Saturday
these skills were useful in Russia with old Ladas
no auto-parts store
you go to outdoor kiosk market, and walk around until you see auto-parts
they'll all be clustered together
and ya talk to some old starik about what kinda lada part yur lookin for
except ladas have a weird manual transmission and the Italian/Russian engine is teeny tiny 4 cylinder small enuff you can pick up!!!!
which reminded me a lot of a Vespa Scooter engine
but cast from Russian Steel, very unique!
only thing smaller is that new Ford 3 Cylinder "Econo" engine or a Mazda Rx-7 Wankel which was the ccolest car I ever owed or drove
man, if Iwere a young dewd, the stuff I could hack out of those little engines
when I was a kid, I woulda made go-carts
but now I'd make drones
when trump tarriffs cause retail sales to drop
corporations will protect their profits and bonuses by doing mass lay-offs
that'll start in 2025
which will cause sales to drop more...which will cause even more layoffs....
and trump will lay-off hundreds of thousands from the federal government
by stopping the Ukraine military hardware transfer from US stocks, we stop the upgrading of US forces with newer replacements
another win for Putin
totally worth the 10% of Rosneft to Trump, won't be surprised he wants more + the Trump Tower land in Moscva
all of this will be Hunter Biden's fault, according to Fox
Trump's first "State of the Union" address will be Trump doing Aerobics in a Captain America Costume singing limmericks live on National TV
followed by 2 hours of applause from the audience until people start passing out and Trump tells them to "stop already..."
betcha ain't laughin NOW
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i've been hit by BM21 Grad Rockets
they're used for pretty much for EVERY POSSIBLE MILITARY PURPOSE!
and have been around since Vietnam
and are still used in Gaza and by Hebollah
this has been the AK-47 of Russian Artillery for the last 60 years
sooner or later, it shows up everywhere
they roar when they take off, you can hear them miles away
but...
they fly faster than sound
you hear the incoming a second before they hit
then if yur hearing is still intact, you'll hear them bing launched from far away
you can have single barrel launchers that look they're old rain gutters that fell off an old building
to a convoy of 40 barrel mobile launchers that drive up from nowhere, fire off hundreds of rocksts in a salvo and be gone 5 minutes later
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP_OlBPS_dg
from the UXO duds I've seen, they are super easy to make in Pakistan or China or North Korea or even some place primitive like Russia
on a sheet metal bending pipe making machine to make welded steel pipes for the rocket body with welded sheet metal fins
pour molten propellant - cap the nozzle - screw in the electric ignitor
point them at a 45 degree angle and they'll fly over 20 miles
and when they go off they generate a lot more shrapnel than an artillery or mortar shell
to launch these things
what really helps is to have a cell phone with yr GPS
and the GPS coords of yur target
calculate the Azimuth and angle?
there's an app for that
just type yur coords ind press Enter
a medium sized factory in poland should be able to make 1,000/day of 122mm rockets
they've made them there the last 60 years, and they can easy ship them across the border
Russian casualties have been accelerating
it looks like Ukraine intends to use up their AMMO by Jan 21, as fast as they can
I'm guessing, one way or another Zelensky will make a national broadcast by the end of February
to starve and keep fighting
or surrender
and Putin pays Trump
for buying 20 % of Ukraine
Putin and Trump already know what the deal is and for how much
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Remember the Gulf of Tonkin . . . whether fake or not.
I was still in my terrible two's. So all I know is what I read later. But yes I know
a quick escalation can happen. Nobody knows who shot the first shot that started
the Battles of Lexington and Concord, but it sort of started something bigger.
We aren't going to get sucked into a war with China especially not in China.
China gets pretty belligerent when they have a president (Biden) on their payroll
vs Trump who they know can charge them a billion dollars with a stroke of a pen.
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when Trump destroys the US Economy AGAIN
The Chinese will care...because....??????
was their EVER A SINLE CRIMINAL REFERRAL against Joe Biden for Corrution
based on any false or made-up right wing media fairy tale
The answer is NO!!!!
Tarriffs paid for by US economy
Government Layoffs paid for by US economy
austerity budget paid for by US economy
ergo
Trump's policies have nothing to do with China
it's a class war of the billionaires against the poor and middle class
China doesn't give a flyin phuque
Trump Bibles are made in freakin China - get a clue
Jarred sold real estate investor visas bundled with his real estate direct to Chinese
Chinese invested in Trump's Asia properties
Saudis bougt out Jarred's
Trump's only purpose is self-enrichment at YOUR EXPENSE
but you're too much of a STABLE GENUIS to see that
I tremble at the thought of yur mighty brain power
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when Trump destroys the US Economy AGAIN
The Chinese will care...because....??????
I am sorry you don't understand how economics or history works. Neither did Kammie, that's why she
isn't president. Lying about the past to people who know better will not further your cause. Go look at
how the left did in the recent elections. Everyone knew they were lying about what happened in the
past. Nobody believed their predictions for the future and now you should know that you can't rely
on PMSNBC for your news, information and analysis. Their words and predictions are your words
and predictions. You've been wrong about everything for at least the last couple years. That
should humble you, but like the rest of the far left you are incapable of self reflection.
http://youtu.be/dtkMBJ991EU
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ME NOT dum dum!!!!
YOU dum dum!!!!
right winger dum dum not know he is dum dum
cuz HE IS dum dum
that's how dum dum he is
Ukraine is just another property Trump sells to Russians for a "fee"
what's hard to understand?
it's all putin and trump - nothing about the USA, Freedumb, etc
just Trump and Putin grifting together...this is what you wanted to own the libs
haha
in Soviet Russia Libs OWN YOU!!!
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I wrote the secrets of the universe here - but decided later to erase it
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http://x.com/i/status/1858104005446062443
a million of these for 10% of Rosneft + one block in Moscva City Center for Trump Tower + $1 trillion and 750,000 gopnicks/koreans kia/wia
plus
thousands of North Koreans see Russian porn for the first time and become addicted to it (like Bee Farmer and RWD123)
and are then useless in combat
what a good deal Putin made for 1/5 of Ukraine + Crimea
but Novo Russiya is a resource drain
the ROI of just sinking that into capital investment for horizontal value added (chemical industry)
instead of the war woulda been huge
it'll take a second future war to regain all of Ukraine
with little support, after January 2025, Ukraine will be a "basket case"
but yes, Trump is gonna sell out every Ukrainian who died...
to Putin...
and as a broker
Trump will be paid a fee by the Russians
like he has before many times
all ist klar?
Ukrainians all died fer nothin I suppose
but oh yeah...sure Christ's death,,, redeemed all mankind...uhh huh....
but a couple hundred thousand dead Ukrainians don't matter cuz of a better counter offer from Putin to Trump
I get it...
but...
Ukrainians ain't gonna be the only ones Trump SELLS OUT!!!
if you had two functionaing neurons with at least one or two workin synapses
you'd understand
that the wrecking ball is gonna come fer you to!!!
Don't ask, "for whom the bell tolls"
cuz it tolls for thee as well
PS
ACTUAL photo of REDNECKS reacting to something I wrote on RWD
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ME NOT dum dum!!!!
YOU dum dum!!!!
None of us, especially you know how this is going to play out.
Obviously the stalemate human meat grinder war was not a good way to go.
Slowly sending too little, too late, with too many restrictions arms to Ukraine
was not a winning combination.
You are not capable of looking at team Biden and pointing out a single shortcoming.
If Team Biden sent 1000 F16's to Poland for Ukraine to train on 2 years ago with the
best tech AAM and AGM missile systems AND 400 Patriot missile systems AND 1000
Abrams tanks AND told them to shoot whatever they want (not NATO). Ukraine could
have kicked some real @ss.
Giving the teaspoon of water per day to a man dying of thirst Biden plan is the plan for
death to Ukraine. The fact that you can't see that is unfathomable.
Now go post your next silly 200 unrelated and irrelevant thoughts.
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"None of us, especially you know how this is going to play out. "
Au contraire mon frere
ALL OF US, especially ME know how this is gonna end
if Lincoln used air power, he coulda ended the civil war sooner
but ballon funding was cut in the Benjamin Pierce administration
Biden has been the most Pro-Ukrainian politician other than Zelensky THAT EXISTS!!!!
he also hasn't allowed the war to escalate
what was provided to Ukraine was VERY effective
nothing wasted, plus we upgraded our own equipment by sending oldest models to Ukraine, replaced by newer upgrades
big difference between a Bradley with a 25mm gun sent to Ukraine, replaced with one that has the new 50mm!!!
not a single American killed in the line of duty there
Russia has outspent us by at least 10 to 1 in Ukraine + sanctions
and their economy is 10% the size of the USAs
they have nearly 800,000 KIA/WIA and nearly 10,000 tanks lost
which will take a terrible toll on Russian society
that ALL Russians will be dealin with for years and years
so tell me again who ya think is winning and who ya think is losing in Ukraine
up until Jan 21, 2025
when Trump turns it all upside down
Trump's administration will be staffed by Pro-Putin supporters like Tulsi Gabbard
Trump Jr is already laughing on Twitter over cutting Ukraine's allowance
http://apnews.com/article/gabbard-trump-putin-intelligence-russia-syria-a798adaf9cd531a5d0c9329f7597f0f6
IT's TRUMP!!!
so of course we know how it's gonna turn out
his administration from beginning to end
will be a complete disaster
just like it's SUPPOSED TO BE!
enjoy Trump tarriffs
enjoy Trump austerity budget for the poor and middle class
enjoy social security being raised to age 70
enjoy cuts to healthcare
enjoy migrant farm labour being deported before harvest time
enjoy all the things that used to WORK, not working any more
becuz Trump broke them
this is what rich people of ALL COLORS tricked you POOR DUMB white people into voting for!!!!
so their income and capital gains taxes will be lower
hence THEY will take a bigger piece of pie from you
pie?
you ain't gettin NO PIE from Elon Musk - He IS!!!!
why ya think Elon gave Trump $200 million
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I realize we only have a few member actually participating but I created a poll here
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=25931.0
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ACTUAL photo of REDNECKS reacting to something I wrote on RWD
Let's get things straight, I'm a Hillbilly. You can say it Heel-Beel-lee.
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sheeeettt homes
in Yeshiva we had Redneck Identification Classes with Flash Card Quizzes
Hillbillys are from Alabama, West Virginia, Tennesee
Rednecks... includes Hillbillys plus coastal swamp dwellers
and cowboy boots and cowboy hat wearers out West who carry a small bottle to spit their "chaw" in
but...
I wish they ALL COULD BE CALIFORNIA SURFER BRO REDNECKS!!!
surf's UP - Shaka! 'Bro!
like dewd - TOTALLY!!!!
PS
Ukraine has 7 tons of plutonium in waste storage
it also needs some polonium for the trigger
IF it's gonna make a fission bomb it has enuff plutonium for 700 or so...
it's MUCH easier to make a dirty bomb
it's just a couple of cylinders of cesium-137 and some high explosive to disperse it
or some Cobalt-60
a Cobalt-60 Dirty Bomb could be made by a single person, if had the material and knew how to handle it
Cobalt-60 is a natural by-prduct in Ukrainian Reactors
Cesium-137 is even more abundant, and has a low boiling point, making it easier to extract and concentrate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident
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Zelensky says war will 'end sooner' with Trump as president
http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzgv4x901o
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Zelensky says war will 'end sooner' with Trump as president
http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzgv4x901o
I have hope :)
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I have hope :)
Unfortunately anything that gives away Ukrainian land risks a war that is a lot worse in the future as Russia, Putin, etc will see it as a win. Plus Russia may not quite be knackered out enough by it all and gain Ukrainian natural resources most likely.
As awful as it is to prolong a war I think Ukraine would be best off fighting through 2025 to get Russia to a point where it is totally exhausted, it's economy starting to break up, it's Soviet stockpile pretty much out, it's people fed up and break up if the Russian Federation on the cards. That sort of direction. It only likely means holding on a bit longer but with much longer term pay offs and peace. Otherwise the risk is in the future Russia comes back and potentially China may join in too. It's the risk of a World War with China that is best avoided as they are much stronger than Russia. China I don't think would go into a World War alone but with Russia etc I think they might do, moreso if Russia can show it can gain out of war even if it is at great cost.
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Yes I agree I also dont want to ban Ukraine from joining Nato
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don't EVER forget Biden's trip to Kiev shortly after the war started...
live video - look for it on utube
after speaking with Zelensky, Biden turned to the line of Ukrainian generals
and shook each one's hands
and told them
"America stands with you"
and it brought Zelensky to tears
Trump will bring Zelensky to tears as well, but in a totally different way!
America Stans Behind You
really...reallly...really...far...far behind you
you guys are funny!!!!!
cutting off Ukraine's funding is gonna bring PEACE to Ukraine?
no, it will bring "piece" 1/5 to be exact, but FROM Ukraine, not to it!!!
so when Putin/Zelensky signs Ukraine's surrender, Trump gets 6% of appraised value, just like he ALWAYS does
Putin will overpay Trump IMHO for the movie sets for the next 40 apocalypse movies and TV series, that and a few old coal mines are all thats's in Novo Russiya and some Chinese leased farms
Russians already stole everything else and took it back to Russia, YEARS ago!
Trump ONLY cares about pleasing Putin, so that Putin pays him to dig him out of the financial hole that Trump dug for himself from his last term
Putin will want sanctions removed, so Exxon Mobile can start drillin in Siberia
and all sanctioned impounded Russian money and private Russian yachts returned
all oil and gas trading to resume like before
Putin will skim off some of the returned refunds and give some of that to Trump
real politik
what does the Ukrainian veteran with amputated legs get?
such a person is completely shunned by society, even his former friends....
what does he get from the treaty that Putin signs?
a kick in the ass from Trump
is what he gets
and then Trump steps on him and walks past him to get to the waiting limo with Putin in the back seat
my Home Owners Association will join NATO before Ukraine does
transexuals will be conducting mandatory testicle mammograms in booths next to the men's room, and they too will be ahead of joining NATO
compared to Ukrtaine
stop dreamin
Ukraine will be sold by Trump to Putin
and Putin will overpay
Novo Russiya is really what ya call a "Fixer Upper"
cuz Putin broke almost EVERY THING in it....
haha
arsonist sets fire to house and then buys the house
oh how clever
it's just another BLAST in the OBLAST
only question is did Trump just cut the deal for himself, or talk Putin into throwing in Iran as part of the deal for USA?
will have to wait awhile to see the outcome
Trump has already given Israel free rein in Gaza
which means in January Israel will turn off water, electricity, stop food distribution
make life as miserable as possible for every single person in gaza, every day
along with non-stop bombing
until the hostages are released
50% of Hamas is already dead
80% tunnels, equipment destroyed
1/3 of Hezbollag killed/wounded
most equipment, drones/rocket warehouses destroyed and sr leadership
hezbollah's bank with all their cash, hit by a 2,000 pound bomb and completely vaporized
Iran's Los Alamos - destroyed by an Israeli F-35
if the USA joins Israel's war with Iran
it will use heavy bombers, likely a squadron of B-2s to carry 30,000 pound laser guided ground penetrator bombs dropped from 50,000 feet
to attack Iran's underground nuclear facilities
and these bombers will fly from NATO bases in Europe
Israel will be in charge of knocking out air defenses first
Iran's oil industry could be wiped out by the USA/Israel in 48 hours with minimum loss
this would also take out their air defenses
leaving them completely open to further attack with no defense...no cover...American spy satellites SEE EVERYTHING like in Ukraine
Israel is hoping to convince Trump to join up against Iran
and let Trump have the oil fields and ship it to the USA
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this is what rich people of ALL why ya think Elon gave Trump $200 million
To save us from the authoritarian police state. Aren't you paying attention?
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elon musk is an altruist?
I DON THINK SO LUCY!!!!
the only person's welfare that Elon Musk cares about is Elon Musk's
for $200 million he bought the co-chair of the Department Of Government Efficiency
ha....
Miriam Adelson got a GOLD FREEDUMB MEDAL for only $150 million
what a sucker Elon is, plus he has to work for it
the only thing Miriam Adelson had to do was just sign the check...
hahaha
what a CUCK!!!
outsmarted by an old Jewish Woman
Elon didn't get no FREEDUMB Medal
instead,,,
he has to identify which program for the poor and middle class to cut for Trump's austerity program
while Miriam is at the Med-Spa wearin her FREEDUMB Medal getting a manicure from a young chinese girl
the world's richest man will design the austerity program
so that the world's richest man will get a major tax cut
I find these truths to be "self evident"
that YOU THINK that all men are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
unless...
they're someone you wouldn't bring home to meet yur ma at dinnertime
then ya think they're SCUMBAGS!!!
and on top of that;
you have a deep underlying insecurity about yur own sexual identity
that makes you reactionary to gay and racial themes
you'da been a perfect early 19th century Louisana planataion owner
with half black and 1/4 black slave girls
young girls, who are yur personal bath servants
who draw yur bath and bathe you
in your room lit by whale oil lamps
I guess, you'll just have to "make do" with but a single Ukrainian woman
and get by the best you can
but at least ya got LED lamps!!!
insteada stinky whale oil
PS
this video shows the REAL TRUTH of the TRUE STORY of BEEL'S BRAIN INJURY
http://x.com/i/status/1858203755151294780
and
http://x.com/i/status/1858208598788018378
what the austerity budget will do
and then combine with 40% tarriffs
Quo Bono?
us GBU-57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDh1x3hd6xQ
can penetrate 200 feet of Iranian rock and then set-off 5,000 pounds of explosive
can only be carried by B1, B2, or B-52
precision navigation
NOTHING in Iran would be safe from it
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Moved to rant
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Trump doesn't necessarily call the shots over what happens to Ukraine. The EU is approximately just as powerful as the US or powerful enough. I'm no fan of the EU but it has the ability to fund the war in Ukraine and big EU economies such as France & Germany have large militaries that they can donate Armaments from. The EU have the motive to support Ukraine as Russia is right on its doorstep so it's a much more pressing issue and will have greater focus on than the US which is a long way away. Trump can't tell the EU what to do and in fact it looks like Trump/the US and the EU will be at loggerheads when Trump gets into Office with trade wars kicking off. So if the EU see Trump as hostile then the EU are likely to be opposed to Trump and may be willing to do the opposite of what Trump wants and support Ukraine.
Again Russia is becoming exhausted in Ukraine, they are running out of Men & Armaments. Russia loses many Men in suicidal attacks to push Ukrainians back a few hundred metres at a time. Sacrificing Men like that and having to keep re-raising a new Army is a bad strategy and one that will become more telling in Russia the longer the War goes on. Russia doesn't have a greater number of Men to sacrifice than Ukraine as some have thought, percentage wise it's probably about the same. Russia needs so many Men to work in it's factories, in its economy. If the number of Men doing so goes down, labour shortages occur, labour costs go up and that hits the economy, inflation, interest rates, tax revenue, etc. in short the Russian economy starts to slide.
Russia is near breaking point in Ukraine and that will show in about 6 months time if not before. Ukraine only really needs to hold on that but longer for Russia's weakness to be exposed and become evident to the world.
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Trump doesn't necessarily call the shots over what happens to Ukraine. The EU is approximately
just as powerful as the US or powerful enough. I'm no fan of the EU but it has the ability to fund
the war in Ukraine and big EU economies such as France & Germany have large militaries that
they can donate Armaments from.
The EU have the motive to support Ukraine as Russia is right on its doorstep so it's a much more
pressing issue and will have greater focus on than the US which is a long way away.
I hope the EU helps Ukraine, I really do. Trump isn't going to tell them not to help, that's cRaZy talk.
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what part of Autocracy is hard for ya to understand?
House and Senate republicans do what Trump tells them to keep Trump happy
Trump does what Putin pays him to do to keep him happy
The Circle of Life Cannot Be Broken
Unless yur in Ukraine
shit always turns out that way there
lokkit the history book
and when ya go diggin somewhere in Ukraine
just layers and layers of bones from each century's wars
this is just the most recent layer on top of the one from WWII which is on top of the one from WWI which is on top of the one from The Crimean War, which is on....
We won't fund the Ukrainian war for HUMANITY REASONS, a-and BUDGET CUTS!!!!
nudge...nudge...wink...wink...
Trump Tower Moscva- Russian Financed
Rosneft Stock held by anonymous off-shore shell company - Trump borrows cash against stock
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The Chinese vessel Yi Peng 3 has been chased, intercepted, and boarded by Danish Navy vessel Y311 Søløven after the Chinese vessel destroyed 2 undersea telecom cables linking Finland-Germany and Sweden-Lithuania.
The vessel sailed from Russia & the captain is Russian
EVERYTHING is being monitored, that's why they were caught so fast
USA uses submarines for this - but they prefer to tap the cables and not destroy them
with special watertight inductive cable couplers
this way they intercept all russian communications
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The Chinese vessel Yi Peng 3 has been chased, intercepted, and boarded by Danish Navy
vessel Y311 Søløven after the Chinese vessel destroyed 2 undersea telecom cables linking
Finland-Germany and Sweden-Lithuania.
Looks like you are right about something. It's really rare that's why I point it out (It's not for some
sillytheory of trying to get on your good side).
Russian-captained Chinese ship seized by Danish Navy for cable attack
http://bulgarianmilitary.com/2024/11/20/russian-captained-chinese-ship-danish-navy-cable-attack/
Chinese Ship Suspected of Undersea Cable Sabotage Detained in 'NATO Lake'
http://www.newsweek.com/baltic-cable-sabotage-nato-1988689
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UK Storm Shadow missiles now apparently fired into Russia:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/ukraine-fires-uk-supplied-missiles-at-targets-inside-russia-13256037
I would assumed there is a military build up in the Kursk Region that Ukraine and it's allies are keen to take the wind out of. We already know there are thousands of North Korean troops there and Moscow is probably keen to try and take back the region.
These moves should helpfully stop Ukraine from being pushed back and weaken Russia.
Still some are thinking WWIII could be on the horizon.
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Russia obviously is blaming it on Ukraine
From TASS
Ukraine, not Russia, posing a threat to the Baltic region — Kremlin
http://tass.com/defense/1875205
Here is a map of the Baltic Sea for those who don't know the geography.
http://www.google.com/search?q=map+of+baltic+sea&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1104US1104&oq=map+of+baltic&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwg
CEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQA BiABDIH
CAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCTEwODMwajFqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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UK Storm Shadow missiles now apparently fired into Russia:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/ukraine-fires-uk-supplied-missiles-at-targets-inside-russia-13256037
I would assumed there is a military build up in the Kursk Region that Ukraine and it's allies are keen to take the wind out of.
We already know there are thousands of North Korean troops there and Moscow is probably keen to try and take back the region.
These moves should helpfully stop Ukraine from being pushed back and weaken Russia.
Still some are thinking WWIII could be on the horizon.
There are countless Euro's who believe WW3 is coming every day. They believe that appeasing the
bully is ALWAYS the way to go. They are always wrong. That's why you will eventually have sharia
law in London. That is why the entire European Union has a fifth rate military with insufficient troops
to protect themselves and rely on the USA to keep them out of harms way.
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it's just a component in the Russian european sabotage campaign
most important is placing remotely monitored camera/gps sensors in Poland to monitor NATO shipments to Ukraine
soon as they cross the border - they're targeted with missiles
gopnicks get paid $2,000 per month to place sensors, those whose sensors survive get paid more next month to improve survival rate
cuz NATO is lookin fer em
Russia's plans for a massive "5th column" aka "The Belbeck Boyz" of Russian civilian saboteurs in Ukraine has been a total FAILURE
when if it had been done PROPERLY would've crippled Ukraine's military and economy completely
OTOH, ATESH has been very successful on coordinating attacks on Russian air defenses in Crimea
using young tatari girls disguised to look like Russian school girls in school uniforms with backpacks
another reason why Putin shoulda offered carrots to people like me instead of sticks
cuz I woulda just flat out told him the truth, there IS NO CARROT in Ukraine, cuz IT WAS IN SIBERIA ALL ALONG LIKE I SAID!!!!
and that's WHERE all the money should go and NOT TO freakin ruined villages in Ukraine!!
WTF VLAD!!!!
at least now ya gotta chance with Trump to shut the door, and end this stoopid war
and declare VICTORY with some territorial gain after Crimea, which was Putin's MASTERPIECE of Ukrainian land acquisition
which is what made him so "cocky"
he shoulda listened to the "naysayers" like me
and kept using corruption as the tool to subvert Ukraine
and NOT the freakin Russian military, which can barely deal with it's own internal crisis
Vlaidimir Vladimirovich
how much is it gonna cost ya when ya start talkin percentages with Exxon/Mobil over Siberian Oil and Gas?
taking the pre-2104 contract as a starter, how much down are ya gonna go
what if they ask you to throw in Iran, does this give ya more?
who can betray who?
USA betray Ukraine?
Russia betray Iran?
ice be tray in the freezer?
all these questions and more will be answered in the next installment of "As the Atom Decays"
with presentations regarding the mysterious spontaneos emissions from ATOMS and the half-lives of dead isotopes found in old garages in Cleveland
as documented by my ground breaking study, which did in fact leave quite a crater
PS
Trump Donor To Do List
Creat Austerity Program for Poor and Middle Class
riase social security retirement age to 70
privitize medicare and VA
get rid of obamacare
get rid of Department of Education (obviously not WORKING!)
reduce IRS Audit staffing to a toal of 3 for entire country
cut 50% off everything else NOT NASA or Military
cut all foreign aid not directly benefiting usa mega corporations
DON'T raise minimum wage
get rid of all pro worker legislation
get rid of renewable energy to raise consumption of fossil fuels
make it illegal to say global warming in us legislation
CUT TAXES ON THE WEALTHIEST EVEN MORE!
TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS
is when Elon Musk pisses on 'ya and tells ya it's raining but ya laid off NOAA, and didn't hear otherwise, so ya open yur mouth to catch some rain, when ya notice it "tastes funny"
this is what TrumpTown Kool-Aid tastes like
Musk Urine with a tinge of Ramaswamy's
much better than the Cherry Kool-Aid in JonesTown
all ya thirsty RedNeck children now drink it up!!!
you know....
if it was me at Jonestown...
i'd pretend to take the poison, but not really...
and then after the little kids took the poison
I'd walk up to them and say, "SANTA CLAUS ISN'T REAL IT'S YUR MOM AND DAD"
and wait to see what happens next!!!
whenever god gives you a lemon
you can squeeze it and make lemonade
that's my attitude!!!
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There are countless Euro's who believe WW3 is coming every day. They believe that appeasing the
bully is ALWAYS the way to go. They are always wrong. That's why you will eventually have sharia
law in London. That is why the entire European Union has a fifth rate military with insufficient troops
to protect themselves and rely on the USA to keep them out of harms way.
I think that's a big problem here in the UK, the government whether Tory or Labour are keen to appease the Muslims. Labour possibly even more so. The Muslims are growing in numbers, power and strength. Already courts give very lenient or sometimes even no sentence to Muslims for stuff that native English people would recieve a sentence for, sometimes even a harsh sentence, for stuff like rape, manslaughter, etc.
So at the moment and had been for a long time a two tier legal system, we unfortunately aren't all equal under the eyes of the law where political expediency lies. The government are so shit scared of upsetting the Muslim crowd as they fear accusations of racism (the race card being pulled) and the risk of a Muslim uprising (think black lives matter a few years ago, that but worse) that they will try to appease them at all costs, even turning on their own people in the process.
At the moment there are a load of trumped up charges against people for silly things like what has been written in social media - if anyone cares? And if course it's the native English facing knee jerk justice on far harsher sentences for far less that raoe, manslaughter, etc. Apparently causing offence to someone on social media is all that is needed now lol, and a two year prison sentence, ridiculous. If anything it is stirring up a lig of discontent in the native English population.
But... The government won't see the threat until too late and will be too weak to make any move against it, they will roll over and let the Muslims do what they want and take power and yes we will all have to live under Sharia law and they will go around hauling up any native English not abiding by it.
France and Germany are the only nations that produce much in the way of arms and armies. The other nations have armies but not as much. The whole lot combined will probably field a reasonable army but for how long? There will likely need to be a call up in all nations to raise the numbers to the numbers needed long term, that's if Russia can last long term.
I would probably expect that the West would try to do the same as Ukraine. That they would hit Generation X and pass over the Millennials and Generation Z. They will want the younger generation to populate and they also know that most Millennials & Generation Z are so weak willed and pathetic with their 'mental health'ves' that they would break down in the filled of battle and be of no use whatsoever.
Myself I have no intent to fight for the UK, it's a right state and not something I support, I would either go to a country like Ireland as I think many others would or if blocked form opposing forces within my own country.
How long it may be before we see what the Russian response to these missile attacks is if any remains to be seen?
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Putin's counter-attack is supposed to be on Kyiv
that's why the usa shutdown their embassy, so ya don't get killed by a Russian missile targeting the US embassy
soory Putin, USA embassy closed
try the English Embassy, if they're open...oops how about Belgium?
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Putin's counter-attack is supposed to be on Kyiv
that's why the usa shutdown their embassy, so ya don't get killed by a Russian missile targeting the US embassy
soory Putin, USA embassy closed
try the English Embassy, if they're open...oops how about Belgium?
Interesting, do you think they'll go nuclear in Kyiv?
Here is an article that reckons that conventional war will kick of first with NATO before Nuclear war of it ever got to that. I personally see nuclear weapons more as a protection for most countries against a total defeat scenario, i.e take one step closer to our capital and failing troops and we'll fire:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-world-war-3-could-34143608?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
As you see, in this scenario it's not all bad news, I'll get help with my Russian language skills and we get to wave goodbye to the Royal Family :D What could be better! This might turn out ok after all.
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all the embassies in Kyiv shut down
so I guess it's gotta be yet another maternity hospital in Kyiv selected for retaliation
the city is sphincter tightening awaiting Russki Raketa
like London with V-2s back in '44/45
my guess is, ya get hit with an Iskander, yur probably not even gonna know you were hit
everything just goes instantly dark
so other than making sure ya got clean underwear on ,cuz ya don't wanna have skid marks for the ER staff to ridicule you over, ain't really much in the way of "prevention" available to you
over the trevalis of counter-rocket fire and the ukrainian counter-counter rocket fire followed by...
when Trump cuts off Ukraine's air defense budget as well as EVERYTHING ELSE
Putin can blow up every hospital and school in ukraine without wasting any cruise missile getting intercepted, since there won't be anything to intercept them with
How To Phuque With Russians
send crate loads of helium tanks and balloons to every high school in Ukraine
then when Ukraine launches the biggest drone attack in world history
release the balloons right behind them carring Aluminum Foil Hats that fall all over Russia
People put on Aluminum hats and "See" the TRUTH!!!!
and it starts a revolution
or is it the "Skooma" talkin?
yeah...sounds more like Skooma!!!!
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/nato-countries-preparing-world-war-34151854?int_source=nba#comments-wrapper
Surely a time to stock up on toilet paper? 🧻
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no.....
use old newspaper, don't be a slave to consumerism!!!!
DON'T squeeze the charmin!
I like the newspaper with pictures of Trump the most
Trump's face is extra absorbant for some reason
get hit by an Iskander?
oh you wish...
try something a little bigger than an Iskander
Putin just launched a big-assed Russian ICBM at Kyiv minus nuclear warhead
it'll make a mess
as a way of tellin Zelensky what's gonna happen when he loses Biden's Protection in January
this is why the USA shutdown it's embassy cuz it woulda been the target - sorta CEP 300 meters or so
haha remeber "Russia House" "couldn't hit the broadside of a barn"
OTOH, what a SCORE that woulda been for Ukraine and the USA if a Patriot had shot it down.....
missed opportunity
meanwhile, the former producer of "Aprrentice" is now in charge of governing America
reflecting the unbounded wisdom of the American people
and has appointed a Wrestling manager as education secretary, and a TV Snake Oil Salesman as Medicare Director
and a Fox News TV Host as Defense Secretary and a teen sex predator as Attorney General
in a real life remake of the movie "Idiocracy" life immitates art
it's a LONG WAY DOWN America
but I'm sure Trump will get ya there
that's why the billionaires put him there and tricked you fools into voting for him
over mexicans....
really....
a mexican free world?
just becuz republicans are afraid brown people won't vote for them and will mostly vote democrat
and blue states picking up more electoral votes becuz of it that gerrymandering and voter suppression can't "fix"
sure hate on "the gays" to
who will cut yur hair and do the interior decorating - straight people?
who will build yur houses and pick yur vegetables
Trump and Elon Musk?
other white people?
LOL!!!! AS IF!!!!
what you really did was to raise prices on yurself to benefit the billionaires at YUR EXPEBSE
you just handed EVERYTHING OVER to Elon Musk and friends
what a bunch of dumb MFers
and yur so BLIND you don't see HOW MEGA STOOPID YOU ARE
good thing I'm CANADIAN so I don't have to be embaressed by this
plus the Molsen
and blond scandanavian canadian girls in short shorts who are totally unaware of how freakin HOT they are
and know how to make a good camp fire
and enjoys swimming nude
Oh Canada!!!!
Putin has already released his plan into partioning Ukraine into three pieces
Putin still wants to pretend this is a geopolitical problem, just for the PR angle...yes, the noble fight to save poor Russian speakers
it's why we had to destroy the city full of Russian speakers
to save it from having the option of doing their government documents in Ukrainian, or now, English!!
when actually....
Russia's acquisition of Ukraine
iis an "Organised Crime" problem
that began with the Crimean Russian Mafiya taking over the Crimean Parliment at night
the head of the crimean mafiya was Crimea's biggest Real Estate Developer - the owner of Consol
to stage a fake election
and then do what EVER Putin wants
and this is how it all began
and NOW, dear gentle readers of RWD
who are graced with wit and intelligence
you will clearly see in January what happens when it comes to America
Trump was put there to DESTROY YOU
and you're all clapping and cheering
while yur marchin over the cliff with the other lemmings
you can consider me a "sidewalk schitzophrenic" of the type that shouts about UFOs as you walk by
some of the UFOs are Chinese "Foo Fighters"
advanced stealth drones built at a secrret Chinese Drone factory in Texas that has it's own airport, google "largest private airport in texas"
and more security than Fort Knox
and a ton of antennas on the main building
Texas also has a VERY WEALTHY Chinese Church that's purchased hundreds of millions of dollars in real estate in Houston
Church's are good tax shelters as well as having special legal protection not available to corporations
it's ALWAYS good to disguise yur business as a church
now, even the Chinese are exploiting what whites have done for centuries
use religion to create a real estate empire and shelter it from taxation and government "interference"
once again...
what dumb MFers
money talks, bullshit walks in America
my fincial strategy is to short the dollar as much as possible
sell off rentals and buy a hemp farm up North
5+ acre farms are tax free
off grid - no utilities
house is solid concrete and fireproof, no earthquakes, tornados, etc, means no home owner insurance
a ZERO Cost House!!!!
where you can legally grow hemp and extract "compounds" from it and sell it, both locally to vape shops or online
and do it all LEGALLY without threat from law enforcemnt
is my post Covid approach
pre-covid was to buy cheap houses and rent them out
but when a depression comes nobody will be able to pay ya rent
but they WILL STILL be able to buy WEED!!!!!
and that's where I come in...
At Uncle Krimster's Farm and Fireworks Stand
this is why ya wanna have farmland that borders a major highway
cuz you can legally setup a roadside stand and sell yur "produce" like the other farmers
only instead of corn or tomatos
you sell a variety of hemp products and fireworks you import from Mexico, some illegal ones reserved for known customers
and surf RWD on yur wi-fi in the shade of your roadside stand
in post-Depression America
Drive on over to Uncle Krimster's Farm, mention RWD and get a 10% discount off all Delta 8 vapes and Fireworks
yur dear friend, Uncle Krimster
2024 RWD Comedy Tour
PS
you wanna read what the US Navy says about Foo Fighters stalking its aircraft carriers off our coast?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/pentagon-cracks-case-of-famous-ufo-captured-by-navy-jet/ar-AA1urFYC?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=477ae0fe42f54136bb3f319bcbfc588b&ei=23
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Here is apparently what Russia wants to do to Ukraine:
http://kyivindependent.com/secret-russian-plan-sees-ukraine-cut-into-3-parts-intelligence-source-confirms/
So they want to take the area they already have. The central third they want near enough under their control that it's essentially theirs anyway. And the final third is being tossed out to the former Eastern Bloc nations in a similar fashion to what Hitler did with Poland, other nations take a small scrap (i.e Czechoslovakia) to divide opinion and conquer in doing so.
In effect Ukraine as a nation will cease to exist and Putler like Hitler will come back for more later.
Going for a peace put forward by the enemy is of course the worst idea possible as it's cut out for suiting them. Putler is wanting a win here through a peace treaty of a non defeated nation.
Ukraine would be better off fighting on whatever. Trump can't make Ukraine sign anything. At best he can just stop of funding & armaments from the US to Ukraine. That still leaves the EU who will still be willing to back Ukraine as Russia is right in their doorstep and very threatening. Ukraine fighting Russia for them is a good deal for them. The UK will likely support the same, the Labour Government seemed hesitant until recent days and now looks more likely to supply Ukraine as a result of their fall out with the Russian regime over Storm Shadow, nuclear threats from Russia, etc.
I firmly believe that Ukraine is best of fight on a good number of months after Trump gets into Office and then they will see Russia start to struggle once it starts losing all of its remaining Artillery.
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http://x.com/i/status/1859714946394964356
Russia is being run by a president who is no longer even a real person
while America is being run by a conman/salesman tv personality
http://youtu.be/YwqklRh2irA
i'm sure it'll all be just fine....
just like BEEL says
What?
Me Worry?
nyet tovarisch, nyet!!!
all things come...
to he who waits...
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In any case there is little anyone can do about it. It may go badly and things end up in a bad place. The general public are as often spectators from here on out and possibly on the sharp end of it in a worse case scenario.
We can really only wait and see and if possible position ourselves as best we can to weather any storm.
I don't worry too much about it as whatever will be will be. When you think of it history is made up of all sorts of characters & countries that have come and gone over time will big upheavals, wars, suffering, etc. This is reality no different looking at it from the grand scale of things. Another blip in history where bad shit may or may not go down. Then onwards to whatever follows. Nothing basically stay the same forever so we end up wherever we end up.
I'm hoping that Ukraine perseveres and that at least the EU, UK, etc will continue to support Ukraine and that it will be enough. I think it's better the war continues on until Russia is exhausted and runs out of Artillery and it's economy ends up in too bad a shape to continue. That I think is more likely to bring lasting peace. I think any deal where Ukraine is partitioned is a bad idea and repeating the mistakes of the past. That will most likely lead us into a bad place.
I think the upside of Trump being elected instead of Kamala is that there was the fear that Kamala's continued US backing of Ukraine might push Putler to use WMD's if he felt he was up against too much western support of Ukraine meaning it was a battle he couldn't win any other way, that if he felt checked he would go for checkmate. That could potentially happen after his Soviet stockpile of Armaments runs out so it could be more important to not over supply Ukraine and match Russia's pace than try to beat Russia in the field at that point. That Ukraine stands the best chance of winning intact if it plays the long game and waits while Russia exhausts itself, gets fed up and goes home.
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the people who KNOW what's coming....
are already preparing for what's coming....
it's ONLY the people WHO DON'T KNOW who are gonna be hurt...
I feel sorry for younger generations who will never have the opportunities my generation had
that's ALL gonna be overwith quite soon...
PS
imagine being an average russian civilian and taking yur kid to the hospital for a broken arm, and this is what ya see there
http://x.com/i/status/1859942035035172946
nothin but wounded Russian soldiers....
NEXT in line - after 8+ hour ER waits
welcome to Militarily Victorious Russia meat grinder repair shop #17
peope are dying to get in here!!!
Slava Putin!!!
masses of Russians are the ONLY people dumber than masses of Americans
1/3 of Russian hospitals lack adequate running water
http://x.com/i/status/1859942035035172946
just imagine what happens to America's health care when Elon sucks government spending from it to cut his taxes
you won't have to imagine it for much longer
maybe a year...
before it's REALITY
before America's health care for poor and middle class loooks a lot like Russia's
haha, trump fooled the fools!!!
elon's trickle down economics
is him pissin on the poor and middle class
i'm sure they'll deal with it OK...
and of course right-wing media will blame it all on Hunter Biden anyway
Vladimir Putin is now defacto co-president of the United States in all but name.
To understand Vlad's plan for America, you just only need see what he did to Russia
a year from now, even you dumb phuque rednecks will be able see EXACTLY what I'm tellin ya NOW!!!!
the only difference is...
you will think it's Hunter Biden's fault
it's all down hill from there
a race to the bottom
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Thatcher tried the concept of trickle down economics in the 80s. Not much if anything seemed to trickle down and the economy was not in great shape, working people generally had a hard time of it.
I think in general if an economy is pushed to either extreme it can cause economic problems. That instead more subtle but sophisticated changes are better sought to provide the best economy for people. In general though whatever the economic system used people need to be productive and work or any economy will go south as a result.
The video makes me wonder how the women will regard such men when they come out. Will they cast of those who have lost limbs or see them as still viable in a relationship?
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those limbless men are disgarded, thrown away like trash...
by Russian government and society
as well as women
half the vets will also have drinking/drug problems (I know...)
they will all have PTSD (when I was younger, I used to have panic attacks)
and some will end up becoming criminals (I know this to...the military introduced me to the criminal lifestyle, where I first learned the "basics"
to the point that top professionals would put me under contract to be part of their "crew"
the US drug industry in the 70s and 80s was run by ex-military and ex-intelligence
same story in Ukraine with damaged soldiers
but, it's NOT just Russia/Ukraine
in my home town we had a blind beggar and his seeing-eye dog who were famous
scotty begged on the same downtown street corner for decades, cops would even look out for him and not hassle him
he was blinded by poison gas in WWI
a sweetly smiling little old man in dark glasses w/ his dawg
if in 2025 Putin/Trump cut a business deal to end the Russian/Ukrainian war and Zelensky signs it
and Russian sanctions go away
and after Exxon/Mobil is drillin in Siberia
I may visit Russia
cuz Putin will not wanna phuque that up by messin with little 'ole me or some other suspicious gringos
he'll have too much too lose
even with all that advantage Trench me boy-o
a guy who lost his left leg could probably still out compete a "slacker"
he' be "ALL RIGHT"!!!!!
haha....
and could join special olympics
and the crowd goes oohhhh....ahhhhhhhh.....
severly wounded double amputees will receive high quality prosthetic legs and a prosthetic penis
these dewds will have 10 times the women you do
and doesn't matter what they look like
cuz they're just the life support for the prosthetic penis
that...
and someone to carry stuff and kill snakes/spiders, protect them and give them money is all wimmin really want from a man
and whadda ya want?
hmmmmm.....
LOL!!!!a rhetorical and totally redundant and unnecessary question if there ever was one
we all know you just wanna befriend a woman for no reason other than that, such a nice boy....
I assume you've watched porn, so yur familiar with the steps involved
for yur "first time"
how did that go?
did you feel different after?
I can't remember it was TOO long ago
it all began when my older sister's friends began sexually abusing me when our parents and granma weren't home
whcih I actually enjoyed cuz I was like 10 and had NO CLUE WTF these teenaged girls were doin to me, but it felt good, so I went along with it!!!
now, I'm like, "DOH"!!!!
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Trump wants American investors to buy the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline between Russia and Germany and have all US sanctions on Russia lifted.
he's already said he's giving Putin EVERYTHING he wants if he ends the war
and will cut Ukraine COMPLETELY off financially if it doesn't end the war
Russia insists on Ukraine demilitarizing as part of the "peace plan"
so there can be no further military aid to Ukraine only financial aid
Ukraine depends on foreign funding even for it's pensions
Ukraine has no choice but to end the war, when military and financial support is withdrawn
so to preserve financial support it will have no choice but to accept a 1/6 reduction in territory
which is in almost toal ruins
Putin and Zelensky
Zelensky sign Ze Paper!!!!
I am sorry Vladimir, I cannot sign!!!!
why NOT Zelensky?
becuz Vladirmirivich you broke both my hands, for not signing earlier
all the hundreds of thousands dead
just to make a deal between Trump and Putin, to divide it all up between themselves
now do ya see how the world works?
when will you simple people
stop believing in fairy tales like frrdom
and just look out for yourself instead
don't trust a single word yur "masters" tell ya
doin that will just get ya killed, that's not THIR problem
so you better ALWAYS think of yur own smarter method of crossing the crocodile infested river
and not blindly stampede across the river with the rest of the herd just cuz ya see them doin it
santa claus ain't real
he don't bring ya presents
yur life sucks, get used to it
The Trump/Putin carve-up of the world begins.
The 21st Century will be all about the transnational alliance of ALL Oligarchs against the world's working classes
just EXACTLY what Marx saw nearly 170 years ago and wrote about
no wonder they're AFRAID OF HIM
he could see two centuries ahead of them
Patriotism is an illusion to keep people united in obedience to their oligarch rulers
for Americans and Russians:
don't obey
don't comply
drop out of the mainstream economy and work in the undeground economy
spend as little as you possibly can in the maistream economy, don't pay taxes, don't register yur children for the draft
if you work for one of the oligarchs, secretly break their most expensive income producing machines
resistance is NOT futile
FIGHT!!
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I agree with the notion not to act like mindless sheep, there is too much of that these days. That the government put out what they want (often through the state owned news channel, the BBC) and many people think they can only buy follow.
These days you only need to look in LinkedIn and see people getting all in a bind over chasing some bog standard so called 'Career' job for bog standard pay and want to go jumping silly hurdles for it without even seeing that the menial pay isn't worth the effort.
Anyway, here is the latest to the multi warhead mid range continental missile fired at Dnipro the other day:
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/23/nato-and-ukraine-to-hold-emergency-talks-after-russias-hypersonic-missile-attack
My personal opinion is that Ukraine should carry on regardless. Even if they get peppered with these missiles it's not likely to be substantial enough to be war changing for Russia. Russia gave git about 6 months left maybe less and they will start running out of Artillery in the field and that is going to be most crucial for them. They lose having significant Artillery in the field and their attacks will be blunted significantly. That's when Russia's weakness will be exposed for all to see and Putler will be left looking rather embarrassed.
Ukraine til then need to make most use of what Biden can do for them in office in the time he has left and try and get supplies to last them in the months going forward from when he leaves office. Then they need to focus on the EU and the UK to take over the reins if Trump wishes to cut of all US finance to Ukraine. The EU won't care what Trump thinks as a trade war is already in the cards so they won't see Trump as a figure to abide by. The recent missile attack issues has seemed to have stiffened the UK government's resolve to help Ukraine and send further aid and hopefully that won't just end up as baseless words.
Talk of WWIII is still abound but I doubt it will come about. Western Governments must know that in reality they only have defensive armies that while well armed are lacking in numbers for any long term offensive. I think manh western governments know that a lot of their populations are hostile to being rolled into fighting a war and would likely either flee elsewhere or actively fight against government attempts to enlist them. That big civil unrest, instability and even toppling of western governments would be on the cards and so for them best avoided.
I personally think Russia will be facing hard times and will be hitting the wall soon if it continues this war into a fourth year of warfare. They only lasted three years in WWI, four years as the Soviet Union in WWII and now I don't think they'll go a lot longer than four years of warfare before starting to have real problems and start falling apart.
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the ICBM that Putin launched, cost 100 times more than the buildings it destroyed in Dnipro
the ICBM and WWIII are attempts to intimidate as well as reassure Russian public
"see this big knife, gimmee yur lunch money"
"hey, I showed 'em my big knife, that's WHY I'm in charge"
I was very surprised Trump won, but again, Russians knew he would
I KNOW they had SOMETHING to do with THIS, I just don't know WHAT...YET....
I will be just as surprised if the war is still going on, after January
Trump will portray himself as the greatest peace maker in World History for sellin out the Ukrainian people for Russian oil with HIS CUT
why don't you idiots see he's THE phuqueing ANTI-CHRIST ON STEROIDS
of course not, they're too worried about the terrible menace of female impersonators in restrooms
which is obviously FAR more important than the fate of Ukraine and Putin's growing strength
seriously, just use the stalls to avoid trannys, gayz, weirdos of all stripes in the restroom
it's NOT a problem for me, to let EVERYONE BE FREE, but don't EVEN THINK of phuquing with me
after elon and trump fire up the anti-middle-class tarriff and mass government lay-offs program, which combined lead to even further lay-offs
next year, the middle class will be too worried over their own declining future to worry about Ukrainians
if Ukraine doesn't surrender they will die, it's that simple
without money the govenment can't function, without weapons they can't fight back
Putin and Trump will win, EVERYBODY ELSE LOSES!!!!
you dumb phuques will need a Juden like me or Marx
to tell ya how to STOP IT!!!!
cuz NONE of you will be able to SEE HOW
and I'm just lookin out for ME
all you white folks are gonna have to do the same
and get by in TrumpLand as best ya can
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Yeah Krim, but what about the Money Ukraine gets from the EU?
Trump & Putler can't do anything about that. In fact the EU sees Trump as the Anti-Christ.
Germany alone beat Russia in WWI and potentially nearly beat the Soviet Union in WWII. So the EU is a much bigger beast both financially and militarily than Germany was. I think Ukraine can still go a fair while after the US pulls the plug on funding and once they go just a few months they could see Russia starting to weaken greatly. I really do think it's worthwhile Ukraine holding on and not giving into a bad peace treaty when Russia will be nearly beat.
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if the biggest investor "drops out"
what do the other little investors do?
they have no choice either...
they will also have to drop out
Putin's Peace Plan, parses Ukrainian support into financial and military
he bans all future military aid to Ukraine
and ukraine must disarm
the EU giving military aid to Ukraine, after Trump stops it, would be "counter-peace"
so they to will only offer financial aid to be pro-peace, same as Trump
this is ALWAYS HOW Russia planned it
Zelensky has no choice but to sign it
I imagine the next day, he'll resign his presidency and move to his place in Israel
I have his Contact Card, but all the freakin security in that neighborhood makes me nervous
you have to show documents at checkpoints and small interrogation from private guards comin in, who are ya, who are ya seein....guns pointed at ya...and ya gotta be completely chill
Israel in classic times
they had battles in the valleys
so if ya got access to a valley on one of the old trade routes
you hit that with a metal detector
I got a bucket of bronze arrowheads from just one spot!!!!
and now i'm too old for the IDF
I think Ukraine is in "check" right now, but it's easy to see the checkmate move that's coming up at the end of January
in january, we'll get past this to talk specifics to Ukraine for reconstruction as the carrot to end the war, and $0.00 if it doesn't
Putin and Trump will want all sanctions removed to open up the money valve
will ukraine receive impounded funds or Russia?
will Putin throw Iran under the bus now that he doesn't need them?
the war will soon be overwith, temporarily
until the West has it's BIG financial collapse and Russia rearms
so Russia can get another piece of Ukraine
future world history just writes itself
the fact that Joe Biden was senile, and some people refuse to vote for a Black Woman, cost Ukraine the war and their children's future
makes total sense
and so now, two crooks are gonna divide up everything
and I, of course, will be judged as being "mentally defective" for thinking this
but yet...
there it all is...
right in front of ya
hamas and hezbollah will be pretty much over by the time Trump takes office
now would be the time for israel and usa to restock and take down Iran if Russia isn't in their corner, cuz it was part of the Ukrainian deal
I don't think Trump will do this, cuz Putin is the one making the decisions and tellin Trump and Elon what to do and not the other direction
the Russian mafiya has branched out into it's preferred territory which was always the "big easy" the USA
with sanctions removed there will be Lukoil Gas Stations in the USA sending us$ dollars back to the Russian arms industry
just like what China does
new generation money laundering involving church tax shelters, even legalized church gambling rackets
will wash and dry Russian money
and end up in a shell corporation's small cap midwestern hedge fund in agriculture and real estate
I would find a GOOD place to hide if I were YOU!!!!
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moved to rant thread
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http://x.com/i/status/1860577230499238334
SCREAMERS are the future of warfare
cuz they're so cheap
a chinese Screamer mega-factory can produce 10,000 Screamers/day
autonomous Screamers have AI Vision Processing to search for specific targets, people cars, tanks, and can target independently
coming at ya by the thousands all at once...all of them hunting...
followed by the next wave and the next and the next
little Screamers, big Screamers, sailin through the night
filled with their presents of high explosives and Thermite
for all the good little girls and boys below
PS
the elon musk hostile takeover of the us government will begin in 2 months
expect a typical hostile takeover, mass layoffs like he did at Twitter/X
eliminate whole departments that billionaires don't care about
shift taxation to tarriffs to be paid by poor, sales falls, employment falls
raise retirement to age 70
shift medicare to a voucher system to private health insurance
transfer all health care costs direct to individual and insurance co and NOT government
cut taxes on corporation by another 50%
run up the deficit even more
still need the military to pay elon
and still need NASA to pay elon
everything else can go away
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if the biggest investor "drops out"
what do the other little investors do?
they have no choice either...
they will also have to drop out
Putin's Peace Plan, parses Ukrainian support into financial and military
he bans all future military aid to Ukraine
and ukraine must disarm
the EU giving military aid to Ukraine, after Trump stops it, would be "counter-peace"
so they to will only offer financial aid to be pro-peace, same as Trump
this is ALWAYS HOW Russia planned it
Zelensky has no choice but to sign it
I imagine the next day, he'll resign his presidency and move to his place in Israel
I have his Contact Card, but all the freakin security in that neighborhood makes me nervous
you have to show documents at checkpoints and small interrogation from private guards comin in, who are ya, who are ya seein....guns pointed at ya...and ya gotta be completely chill
Israel in classic times
they had battles in the valleys
so if ya got access to a valley on one of the old trade routes
you hit that with a metal detector
I got a bucket of bronze arrowheads from just one spot!!!!
and now i'm too old for the IDF
I think Ukraine is in "check" right now, but it's easy to see the checkmate move that's coming up at the end of January
in january, we'll get past this to talk specifics to Ukraine for reconstruction as the carrot to end the war, and $0.00 if it doesn't
Putin and Trump will want all sanctions removed to open up the money valve
will ukraine receive impounded funds or Russia?
will Putin throw Iran under the bus now that he doesn't need them?
the war will soon be overwith, temporarily
until the West has it's BIG financial collapse and Russia rearms
so Russia can get another piece of Ukraine
future world history just writes itself
the fact that Joe Biden was senile, and some people refuse to vote for a Black Woman, cost Ukraine the war and their children's future
makes total sense
and so now, two crooks are gonna divide up everything
and I, of course, will be judged as being "mentally defective" for thinking this
but yet...
there it all is...
right in front of ya
hamas and hezbollah will be pretty much over by the time Trump takes office
now would be the time for israel and usa to restock and take down Iran if Russia isn't in their corner, cuz it was part of the Ukrainian deal
I don't think Trump will do this, cuz Putin is the one making the decisions and tellin Trump and Elon what to do and not the other direction
the Russian mafiya has branched out into it's preferred territory which was always the "big easy" the USA
with sanctions removed there will be Lukoil Gas Stations in the USA sending us$ dollars back to the Russian arms industry
just like what China does
new generation money laundering involving church tax shelters, even legalized church gambling rackets
will wash and dry Russian money
and end up in a shell corporation's small cap midwestern hedge fund in agriculture and real estate
I would find a GOOD place to hide if I were YOU!!!!
The EU comes only just after the US in GDP and by a very small margin and in most other economic aspects also, so they are pretty much just as big an investor as the US:
Is the EU a bigger market than the USA?
The United States was the second largest, with 15.5% of world GDP. The EU was in third place, with 15.2%. Among the 20 countries in the world with a share larger than 1% of the world GDP expressed in PPS, there were 5 EU countries: Germany (3.4%), France (2.4%), Italy (1.9%), Spain (1.4%) and Poland (1.0%).30 May 2024
http://ec.europa.eu › eurostat › web
EU represented 15.2% of world's GDP in 2021 - Eurostat
For sure loss of US investment would be a big blow to Ukraine efforts and yes others would have to weigh up if it is then still viable to back Ukraine, for Ukraine to win, etc.
I think Russia's dwindling stockpile of Soviet Armaments makes it possible to see a case where Ukraine wouldn't have to be funded as much as they were to keep pace with a Russian war effort that is likely to decline in ability over the next year.
In theory the EU is probably more economically powerful than Russia. So at full pelt the EU could out fund Russia in funding a war effort. Russia has been up against the US, the EU and the UK funding the Ukrainian war effort for three years now. Russia is getting near exhausted as a result, they may not look it yet but the cracks are there. They are having to turn to North Korea to fill those cracks but that is only going to hold for so long. North Korea won't want to send too much of its army to Ukraine, they will want to keep most of it in its own lands for its own defence. Russia doesn't look too bad at the moment but I would say it's soon to be entering into its last round where those cracks start to become visible and obvious to all. Once that happens people around the world will see Russia as not the threat it once was and easily beatable.
Russian forces could well expend a lot of their remaining power over Winter and into Spring. Then they could I believe start running out of Armaments and start getting badly run down and exhausted. Morale could start to slip badly at that point and that's when Ukraine should be able to hold on a lot more easily and see off Russian attacks more easily.
A lot depends on how motivated the EU is to keep Russia from becoming a big threat along it's border. It has reason to be greatly concerned and with that a potential willingness to fund the Ukraine war past the point of Trump likely dropping funding for the war in late January/early February. I personally believe it's in the EU's best interests to dig deep and fund Ukraine fully for that but longer and have the joy of seeing Russian war efforts break up before their very eyes.
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EU oligarchs like the ones who sunk billions into NorthStream, banks like Deutsche Bank
will ALL want Russian sanctions to go away
hence...no more military aid to Ukraine either....
the propaganda machine will be workin hard
THIS is ONLY about PEACE, ending the war, stopping the death....
and not about Russian oil and gas, and ummm real estate
dangle the financial aid to Zelensky like this
here's our "aid package" each day you wait before signing it, it goes down by 1 %
with no more military aid
with no more financial aid
the ukrainian military can't fight
the ukrainian government can't function
they've already LOST the territory
they already abandoned the Crimea attack plan
so Zelensky has NO CHOICE but to sign or Russia will take EVERYTHING
and Ukraine will lose MILLIONS of people
like it did
from the Nazis
like it did
from Stalin
and that's just the last 100 years we're talkin about
Ukraine's suffering is infinite
both past and future
it's WHY my ancestors GTF outta there back in the 19th century, right after the big POGROM
all those Ukrainians who died (who we helped get this way)
and then TRUMP walks in and immediately SELLS THEM ALL OUT for Russian Oil
get used to scenarios like this
and to YOU being the ones who are all bein sold by Trump
he'll sell you to, of course
money + media control
means that when Elon is pissing on ya, FOX is gonna tell ya that it's a gentle spring rain
let's see how well Elons's ego and Trump's ego play with each other
maybe the chaos will all turn inward like last time starting with Flynn and Manafort....
how long before Trump's next impeachment?
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money + media control
means that when elon is pissing on ya, FOX is gonna tell ya that it's a gentle spring rain
Hahahahaha! 100% of the media hate Trump. Fox is part of the swamp, they love war.
Fox is in line with your oligarch ideas. They love big pharma, big government spending
and the swamp.
They are like the Lizard Cheney's of the world. They want to go to war but they don't
have kids going. My oldest son has been to both Afghanistan AND Iraq. We need to
stop all these forever wars.
The problem with the nutjob left is that they can't have a single dissenting opinion out there
and survive. If they allow ANY dissenting opinions, they lose. You are totally in favor of
controlling speech as long as your perceived side is doing the controlling.
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Trump pardoned the husband of one FOX TV host for tax evasion
Trump nominated another Fox TV Host as secretary of defense
another is ambassador to Israel
Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, had only one other client besides Trump, Sean Hannity, FOX TV Host
Trump plays the Apprentice Host for America now
a media show of disinformation
corporate tax cuts will be "the middle class job growth package"
while the middle class emplyment falls, as do wages
while healthcare and retail prices rise
due to government cuts and tarriffs
this will ripple thoughout the entire economy
I, The Great Krimster" predict this
PS
I am touched, really I am
that you read through years of posts
that expresses a kind of devotion and attachment to me that I did not expect from you
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Russia will now try to grab as much new territory it can between now and the end of January
while Ukraine tries to block them from doing that
targetting Russian armories has been very successful
Russia doesn't really have a lot of ammo to spare beyond what they're already using
none of those multi-thousand pieces of heavy artillery bombardments like in WWII
if Ukraine lost US spy satellite and other intel, cuz Trump cuts them off
they're finished as well
that's how important that is to them
let alone the military and financial aid
so while Trump has one hand on Zelensky's balls
tellin him to end the war or he's gonna squeeze
with his other hand he's givin Putin a HJ
sayin "Pooty darling, if you end the war, you get to keep all the territory you occupy and all sanctions will end"
before the "Climactic Moment"
when Putin screams, "Veni, vidi, vici"
this will be a wild summer in Russia
we'll have to see what kinda reconstruction package was dangled in front of Zelensky
you know Yvray, when it comes to money, right?
biggest issues,
the $400 billion in total confiscated russian assets including yachts, who gets that - Russia or Ukraine?
Russia's future relationship to Iran
no western weapons to ukraine, means no russian weapons to iran or north korea
Trump won't really care about this
and will just focus on jerking off Putin
Trump will be the secret owner of 10% of Rosneft
and will get a prime piece of moscow real estate and Russian funding for a Trump Tower in Moscow
for bein the middleman of the Ukrainian deal
then Exxon/Mobil moves back to Russia
and THEY PAY Trump as well
by renting whole floors of a Trump Hotel with no one staying there all year long at 2X normal rates
criminal cases aginst Trump will be disappeared
Trump will steal and sell whatever secrets he can
sell pardons
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I think there is an issue on the right and to an extent for all western governments & the old Eastern Bloc.
Historically I get the impression that the right in the US, the Republicans under the likes of Reagan and those Republican Presidents, Senators and Congressmen before him hated the Soviet Union, i.e Russia (Russkies) Commies, etc as the enemy back in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, etc...
They were the big threat, the enemy to be feared and hated, but now they don't???
Russia is not the enemy for Trump, the Republicans now?
I mean what's the difference? Surely Russia is still the big opposing forces to the US? To NATO?
I think one big thing that came about at the end of the cold war and the break up if the Soviet Union is that the military industrial complex no longer had big contracts to supply big large standing cold war armies in the West, of the US, the UK, etc, etc across Europe. My guess is that it could be seen that having what could be seen as a big major threat (the Soviet Union, Russia) despite being labelled as the all evil empire by Republicans back in the 80s was potentially favourable to many of them with military industrial ties as it meant a big standing army and hence much bigger Army Contracts likely worth many millions of dollars, pounds, etc.
So if Russia were to come back as a threat then once again the need for large standing armies and bigger more lucrative Contracts to resupply Western Armies. Guess who wins on that? The owners of Armaments factories in the West.
Of course those Western Armies might never be used but the Arms Merchants get wealthy of the back of large standing armies. About a year ago there were calls to ready are forces by rearming them and hiring more soldiers. So playing into the arms of the Arms manufacturers. Most of the populace of western & eastern bloc countries I don't think realised the hugh cost of this which would of course fall on the tax payer.
People started jumping to that and even arguing to spend the money on our own forces instead of Ukraine when we aren't even at war. That's pretty ludicrous just a small amount of common sense would show that Ukraine is doing the West & Eastern Europe a big favour by reducing Russia's conventional armed forces ability. That by sticking by them and supplying Ukraine, Ukraine are doing the job for us. We don't lose our men, we don't end up supplying big standing armies for decades and having a big threat on our doorstep. For me supplying Ukraine with Armaments and Finance is a no brainer I think.
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This is one piece of advice I entirely agree with for the EU on Ukraine:
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/29/borrell-issues-final-warning-eu-has-reached-breaking-point-in-ukraine
The EU has to realise that letting Russia win would be extremely bad for it and that it's going to take some effort and quick decisive action to really get resources put into action and fully behind Ukraine.
I don't think the EU would have to support Ukraine heavily for long but Ukraine definitely needs to be heavily supported over the next 6 months or so. After that Russia will likely be really running out of steam and not able to continue the pace of war in Ukraine as it has been.
Russia is easily beatable if the EU puts a lot of resources heavily behind Ukraine. However as Borrel points out in the article the EU is not known for being able to act quick and decisively it can unfortunately be slow and not always so effective. It's part of the reason why the UK left the EU and a big Achilles heel of the EU.
For the EU being able to move to being more quicker and effective and coming to terms with the danger Russia poses to itself if it wins in Ukraine is something the EU needs to do. The EU have a lot of money and power but if I to can't bring that to bear when needed then it's long term viability may be in question. On paper the EU both economically and militarily can easily beat Russia in Ukraine by supporting Ukraine but as Borrel points out it's slowness and lack of realisation of the need for haste and quick effective organisation threatens to hand Russia a win. That I believe would be a terrible shame as the cracks are starting to show in Russia's economy.
The risk is that Russia wins by a bad peace treaty for Ukraine just before the point of Russia failing apart in the next few months next year. Ukraine can win this war if the EU are determined enough to win this war for Ukraine. Even the UK could single handedly help support Ukraine to win this war next year if it really dug deep and threw huge amount of finance and military assistance behind Ukraine from now going forward.
So far their has really only been Boris Johnson that has acted in decisive support of Ukraine. Even then not enough support came forward as it could have been. We could and still could give Ukraine many more of our Challenger 2 tanks that are due to be replaced by Challenger 3 tanks very soon anyway and countless other bits of military hardware. Kier Starmer doesn't face another General Election for over four years so has the ability to not worry too much what immediate public opinion is on Ukraine if he wishes to stop Russia. The problem is that Kier Starmer may not be any more quicker and decisive than the EU as he is in that direction thinking wise himself.
I personally think one last push by the EU and the UK to help Ukraine hold out that but longer next year and thereby win this war is possible but lackluster effort and a lack of realisation of the greater threat that Russia posses if it wins seems to be prevalent in both the EU and the UK again the moment. Ukraine's forces need serious bolstering both financially and militarily to be sure of them holding on long enough next year to see Russia start failing apart before it's eyes, it's easily doable if both are able to bring themselves to action.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-s-envoy-proposes-peace-plan-which-includes-lifting-sanctions-against-russia-cnn/ar-AA1uZYSS?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=ac7b436d006b428a8f2e97db50ec5fe3&ei=66
Trump is already talkin about gettin rid of Russian sanctions...of course he is....just like I told ya....he's the man who sells real estate to Russians
he's the man who's gonna sell Ukraine to Putin
between now and Jan20, Ukraine's Western supporters will give them as much military and economic AID as they can, which will last a few more months at most after January
after Trump sells Ukraine to Putin in January
European oligarchs will push europe with trump's help to do the same thing
trump is gonna get paid bigly by putin
they both are in BIG trouble, and each of them needs the other to bail them out
remember, it's for "PEACE" not avarice
and it's not about a global oligarchy, oh no, there's no such thing, right?
european oligarchs want russian oil and gas and Russian laundery money to, just like Trump does
and they're gonna sign whatever deal with putin that needs to be signed to get it just like Trump will
imagine somone who wakes up from a coma
and finds out that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are in charge of the American governemnt and economy and are reorganising it
back to the way it was before the 1930s Democratic "New Deal"
they'd probably wanna go back to being comatose
this is gonna be greeat fun to watch, it's the quiet before the storm
wait for the shit storm in 2 months
when Trump and Elon destroy America
wouldn't you like to hear the phone conversations between Putin and Trump/Elon
notice how Putin is kissin Trump's ass now?
it's becuz Trump/Elon and Putin are gonna be doin bizness SOON!!!
I can't wait until you rednecks all find out that Trump was lying to you ALL about EVERYTHING
and that he and Elon are really just there to line their own pockets and carve up the pie
while they make war on the American poor and middle class while making peace with Putin
watch and see...
and then when that happens
all you rednecks will come crawling back to me
"HELP US KRIMSTER", they'll say.....
well, ya know what...real sorry to hear about yur problems, but I'm busy
don't let the door hit yur ass on the way out
PS
so ladies and germs
I'll bottom line it fer ya
next summer travel will be back on in Russia and Ukraine
you'll wanna go!!!
WHY?
cuz everyone will be manic and everything will be dirt cheap over there
and scaredy cats don't have to be afraid of drones
only problem is, at least in the USA, they're all gonna be "BROKE but not WOKE"
i'd like to have a place in Western Ukraine to use as a travel hub to Europe via RAIL
it's just so much nicer NOT to fly and not have to deal with airports
still a gazillion places on my to see list, plus my old favorites like Rome, even Hotel food is GOOD there!!!
wife can carry luggage now, she's a strapping Ukrainian village girl, can carry what 3 average women can carry and push people out of the way for me
a perfect travel companion, who neither snores nor steals the covers
and shares my same food preferences
and carries an italian 7" stiletto for me high up on her inside right thigh
CUZ THEY ALWAYS FRISK ME, BUT NOBODY EVER FRISKS MY WIFE, if she's wearing a short mini-skirt,
this is why we work well together
what in the intelligence community is called a "salt and pepper" team
two opposites
an american man and a ukrainian woman
who work as a close-knit team
which "outfit" do ya'll think we used to work for?
hehe
before we went rogue
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I don't think the EU would have to support Ukraine heavily for long but Ukraine definitely needs to be heavily supported over the next 6 months or so. After that Russia will likely be really running out of steam and not able to continue the pace of war in Ukraine as it has been.
Russia is easily beatable if the EU puts a lot of resources heavily behind Ukraine. However as Borrel points out in the article the EU is not known for being able to act quick and decisively it can unfortunately be slow and not always so effective. It's part of the reason why the UK left the EU and a big Achilles heel of the EU.
The EU is as decisive as a 16 year old girl deciding on which dress to wear to the big dance. They are as
confident as several 16 year old girls who woke up the morning of the dance with a big pimple on their
nose.
The EU needs to be led to do the right thing, (Biden led them). They are too insecure to just come out and
do it themselves, so they will dither, delay then wring their hands. Then do too little too late (just like Biden
did).
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the european energy consortium that co-sponsored north stream will push european leaders into russia's corner after Trump does
otherwise USA oil companies will get all the spoils through Trump,
oil industry gotta pay trump to, like putin, to close the circle
trump gets paid by Russians and us oil
they shoulda given him the billion when he asked, now it'll be ten times that
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The EU is as decisive as a 16 year old girl deciding on which dress to wear to the big dance. They are as
confident as several 16 year old girls who woke up the morning of the dance with a big pimple on their
nose.
The EU needs to be led to do the right thing, (Biden led them). They are too insecure to just come out and
do it themselves, so they will dither, delay then wring their hands. Then do too little too late (just like Biden
did).
I fear you are correct Bill. Even when faced with the Russian threat that the EU could see off they may be too lacking to get the effort needed together. It wouldn't necessarily take a lot for long. They will probably only need to be at it for a year or so at most. Russia is already three years in and about to go into its fourth year of waging war. It would be silly to appease Putler when he is nearing defeat.
This way the EU is it's poor organisation and poor willpower were one of the reasons of many the UK chose to leave the EU.
One source out today that is more heartening at least is from NATO:
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/12/03/nato-must-focus-on-military-aid-for-ukraine-not-peace-deal-says-alliance-chief-mark-rutte
I was pleased to see that NATO chief Mark Rutte isn't up for giving in to Putler and I think can see how near Russia is to defeat if the willpower can be summoned together to carry on and get Ukraine the backing it needs for that bit longer. If NATO can lead the organisation effort in Europe then they might be able to mobilise the EU into action, we can only wish!
I know many think the US is NATO but it is in reality more than that, a large collection of members many of which are also EU members. If Trump sits on the sidelines on NATO or decides to pull the US out of NATO it will still be potentially a very effective force and organisation that could organise EU financial and militarial assistance against Ukraine.
I am certainly hoping that countries will follow the call by Mark Rutte and step forward to give more to help defeat Russia.
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It would be silly to appease Putler when he is nearing defeat.
I was pleased to see that NATO chief Mark Rutte isn't up for giving in to Putler and I think can see how near Russia is to defeat if the willpower can be summoned together to carry on and get Ukraine the backing it needs for that bit longer.
I am certainly hoping that countries will follow the call by Mark Rutte and step forward to give more to help defeat Russia.
Putin is NOT near defeat. Why do you think so? Russia has more of everything, more men,
bullets, tanks, anti aircraft, missiles, artillery, shells, money and time than Ukraine does. They
probably have less training, they are on offense, where you tend to lose more men. Their
leaders don't care about their lives, they are less motivated.
This war is a horrible meat grinder killing and destroying lives.
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Putin lost moldova
he's losing georgia and he won't get those caspian pipelines back
and he's losing syria and their pipelines
his ally Iran is down cuz of israel and can't help him out in syria cuz of that
his other ally North Korea is useless
the Russian economy is a shambles cuz of the war, it's barely functioning
average Russians are totally phuqued cuz of the war, and if they complain, they'll be on the front line
Putin needs Trump to end the war, to stop the massive financial losses in Ukraine that he can't afford
and Putin needs Trump to get rid of all sanctions on Russia to stop the fall of the russian economy
Trump needs Putin's oil and gas so he can sell it to American oil and gas and get a "small fee"
Trump and Putin don't give a flyin phuque about how many gopnicks die
the money changers are gonna crucify zelensky
Mussolini and Hitler
Putin and Trump
stoopid phuqued up humans never freakin learn a damned thing
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the Russian economy is a shambles cuz of the war
Putin needs Trump to end the war, to stop the losses in Ukraine
and Putin needs Trump to get rid of all sanctions on Russia to stop the fall of the russian economy
Trump and Putin don't give a flyin phuque about how many gopnicks die
Mussolini and Hitler
Putin and Trump
stoopid phuqued up humans never freakin learn a thing
What was Bidens plan? trickle in beans, guns and bullets, at a slow enough rate that
Ukraine would never get ahead? It worked.
You don't know what Trump will do. You are making silly speculations like you did about
mankind dying of Covid.
There are a hundred pressure points Trump can leverage.
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more BS
everything bad is Biden's fault, only good flows from Trump does it?
I wonder which right wing oligarch owned web site fed ya all this BS
Trump's already said what he's gonna do in "Trump Speak" "I give one side all the money, and the other side none"
which is EXACTLY what I told ya,
Ukraine will be Trump's "sale of a lifetime"
Putin will bail out Trump from all his financial problems as Trump bails out his beloved Putin
Biden's first responsibility is to the USA
remember how he waited to shoot down the chinese weather balloon over water
biden employed the same caution in Ukraine
Biden would give AID to Ukraine THEN measure russia's response and measure how well ukraine performed with the AID
blowback from helping afghanistan defeat Russia was that we helped create the Taliban
biden's caution in ukraine meant we don't have blowback from helping Ukraine like we did in afghanistan
either from ukrainians or russians
no one has done as much for Ukraine as biden has, no one
yur still stuck thinking this is a Republican vrs Democrat struggle
it's not
this is a class struggle as described by Marx nearly two centuries ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_conflict
an international oligarchy of organized crime and money launderers combined with other global oligarch partners
in a struggle with the working classes in America, Russia, Ukraine
and yur too fookin blind and brainwashed by right wing media to see it
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Putin is NOT near defeat. Why do you think so? Russia has more of everything, more men,
bullets, tanks, anti aircraft, missiles, artillery, shells, money and time than Ukraine does. They
probably have less training, they are on offense, where you tend to lose more men. Their
leaders don't care about their lives, they are less motivated.
This war is a horrible meat grinder killing and destroying lives.
Putler is losing Artillery faster than he can replace it. Ukraine has Western Artillery, in smaller numbers yes, but more accurate and with a farther range than Russian Artillery. That means Ukrainian Artillery can accurately hit Russian Artillery from a greater range outside the range of Russian Artillery. So Ukraine then has a high success rate of taking out Russian Artillery. Add on top of that Russian Artillery exploding from poorly made North Korean Shells or over use, etc.
It takes just moments for a Russian Artillery piece to be destroyed on the battlefield. Russia can produce and ship a new piece of Artillery to the front in moments, same with tanks.
So how long can Russia keep up with replacing that rate of loss in Artillery? Answer, so long as Soviet Artillery stockpiles remain. Soviet stockpiles aren't inexhaustible or so large anymore and they aren't going to remain forever.
Since the start of the war Ukraine has destroyed thousands of Russian (old Soviet) Artillery pieces. The once mighty Russian Army that could rival the US on paper at least in terms of Armaments stockpiles is no more. Russia are just one step away from their Artillery upon which they so depend from running out and a rather embarrassing and awkward moment descending.
Some idiots out there want 'peace' with Russia that treats Russia as the victor, as if they are so mighty that we have to concede to Russia. Russia is about to be broken in about six months of so time and they wish to negotiate away a win for Ukraine.
The Russian Army might look like they are in the offensive now but it is but an illusion that won't last, they aren't going to be able to keep it up and about six months or so more of it will expose their weaknesses for all to see. Think Rocky 3 where Sylvester Stallone has to wait until Mr T tires himself out then takes him out. That's what Ukraine is doing at the moment, Russia is constantly throwing all they have at Ukraine but is only taking land at a very slow pace and small amounts of it. Russia at some point is going to get tired out, it's a bad strategy that Russia is using and will hand them their ass soon.
Ukraine doesn't have to beat Russian forces in the field for them rto win against Russia. Ukraine just needs to grind Russian Artillery down so much that they lose Artillery superiority. Once that is done Russia is largely toothless in conventional military terms. It got an Army stuck in Ukraine that won't be able to make any progress against Ukraine's Army. That's where Ukraine starts winning, by making it pointless for the Russian Army being there anymore. At that point Russia has no longer got a big arsenal of Artillery to threaten the world with and inflict crushing defeat of opponents like they did to rebel forces in Syria. Russia are then a spent force and it then just a waiting hand till the penny drops and they throw in the towel and quit Ukraine.
That's what the West should commit too, not to entertaining silly notions of thinking they need to come to terms with Putler. The terms won't be any good and Putler will be back another day to try again, if not in Ukraine then elsewhere. I would say don't let Putler chuckle away from being handed a victory through a peace treaty when he is fast heading towards a defeat, the cracks are already there if you look for them.
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the outcome of the war will NOT be decided on the battlefield nor the "playing Fields of Eaton"
the battlefield will only determine how far Ukraine's border with Russia will be moved West
the outcome of the war, will be decided by money$$$$
Putin will buy victory in Ukraine from Trump
Trump is "the man who sold the world"
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putin's last big move will be to try and take Zaporizhzhia cuz he'll get a big chunk of Ukraine's electrical generation
he has maybe 2 months to try and get it
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the european energy consortium that co-sponsored north stream will push european leaders into russia's corner after Trump does
otherwise USA oil companies will get all the spoils through Trump,
oil industry gotta pay trump to, like putin, to close the circle
trump gets paid by Russians and us oil
they shoulda given him the billion when he asked, now it'll be ten times that
Get your facts straight, Trump told them not to do the Nord Stream 2
Now according to you, he's in favor of it?
Trump verbally spanks Germany over gas pipeline deal
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on
Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia,
saying Berlin had become "a captive to Russia"
"If you look at it, Germany is a captive of Russia. They got rid of their coal plants,
they got rid of their nuclear, they're getting so much of their oil and gas from Russia.
I think it is something NATO has to look at. It is very inappropriate."
http://www.reuters.com/article/markets/currencies/trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive-idUSKBN1K10VH/
Whoops! You said that Trump is Putin's puppet. I think Angela Merkin was Putin's puppet.
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cuz Trump wants Americans to own it and not germanski....
why?
cuz that way HE gets a piece, Germans won't pay him anything for North Stream, it's half theirs to begin with, they just let Russians use their banks to pay Trump
remember how his fixer lawyer Cohen collected payments for Trump
this deal was worked out at the Mar-a-Lago Club
http://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-influence/2024/12/03/investor-lobbies-up-to-sell-nord-stream-takeover-bid-00192453
"The Art of The Con"
you think Trump makes deals without bein involved himself or through a family proxy?
this will be just one of the MANY presents for Trump when he sells Ukraine to Putin
Trump can do ANYTHING he wants, he is criminally immune, the Supreme Court said so!
the only thing that could screw this up
is if Zelensky doesn't sign the property transfer of eastern ukraine to putin
but with Trump squuezing, I think he'll sign
how many schmucks lie dead in the ground now
just so Trump can walk away with the money
who will help Ukraine rebuild?
I assume it'll be the same people who paid for rebuilding the sarcophogus on Chernobil (TWICE!)
but the west is gonna be broke after next year
maybe they can have a GoFundMe and compete with Americans seeking help for medical costs after Elon cuts federal health care dollars
just a suggestion
next year, Trump voters will all be askin just ONE THING!!!
Brother, can you spare a dime?
the most under-rated woman in America
just might be the woman who was the translator, at Trump's private 2+ hour meeting with Putin in Helsinki, who Trump made sign an NDA just like Stormy Daniels for "some reason"
Europe has a clever solution, create a loan to Ukraine secured by a lien of the $200 billion confiscated russian money they control
ukraine gets the money, awwww, but sorry, since there's a lien on it, Russia can't get it back
any Jewish consultant fresh outta yeshiva woulda handed ya that, right off the bat,
Trump will block the USA from doin that
cemetaries full of dead
ruined cities
orphaned kids
all that....
for nothin...
it's like Jesus was put up on the cross for no other outcome
than that the money changers simply went back to cheatin folks on the temple steps again
with the "sanctuary shekel" scam, which was OLD in Jesus's time
now it's like banks and real estate
Zelensky will be the Jew the money changers/launderers will nail to the cross
Rome will fall
and we will enter a "Dark Age"
it's a good thing that I released a tank of low salt tolerant sea monkeys into the black sea when I did
Russians even CAUGHT ME DOING IT, and were like WTF are you doin?
the fact that there was a foreigner doin something weird was REALLY freakin 'em out
privet tovarishche!!!!eta moira mɐkakə...vidisch....
they look at me wide eyed and slowly backed away
Krimster Children's Song
THAT
was the day, I set my Sea Monkeys free
and there were Sea Monkeys swimming
in the Azov Sea
sung while gently strumming a ukulele
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This info from a surrendered Russian soldier tells us Russia's army ain't all that and not a force to be feared. More that they are desperate and using poor battlefield tactics in the hope that they will overcome Ukraine's forces. Russia are beatable and the West would be better holding out for that:
http://english.nv.ua/amp/russian-marine-surrenders-in-kursk-oblast-reveals-what-s-happening-in-russia-s-army-50471873.html
This second article tells us what I have been predicting is already happening, the amount of Artillery Russia can field on the front is going down and already seemingly significantly. If Ukraine can continue the good work they are doing in knocking out Russian Artillery then they'll take the offensive ability out of the Russian Army:
http://news.sky.com/story/russias-ability-to-outmatch-ukraine-with-artillery-on-battlefield-significantly-reduced-13267663
Russia is now using glide bombs to compensate but they are unlikely to fully compensate for the loss of its Artillery. The writing is in the wall for the Russian Army and it's only so long before the Russian Army starts talking apart. Hopefully Ukraine will get able to show this before Trump gets into Office. If the Russian Army appears broken then I think Ukraine will enjoy renewed support from the West as they show that Russian Forces are nothing to be feared anymore.
Holding on in Ukraine really is the best for Ukraine and for the West I think.
Maybe even Trump will come to see the opportunities that a win for Ukraine could bring him and the US if Russia ends up in dire straits and in need and instead chooses to back Ukraine.
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if Trump doesn't give a phuque about the American poor and middle class (despite professing his undying love for them)
how much will he care about Ukrainians?
HORRIBLE condition of the russian military doesn't matter
declining number of cannons doesn't matter
cuz next month, Putin's Secret Weapon will be deployed
Donald Trump is Putin's Secret Weapon of Mass Destruction
and he'll use it against Ukraine AND the USA
First, Trump cuts all funding and military cooperation with Ukraine
then Putin will dictate the treaty to Trump
and Trump will hand it to Zelensky
Treaty sez Putin gets EVERYTHING, and Ukraine gets a "get well soon" card signed by Trump they can sell on Ebay
sign it Zelensky or millions of yur people will die
that's how it's "going down" next month
imagine yur father, son, brother, died for Ukraine
how will ya feel when they're sold to the man who killed 'em
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Looks like things aren't going well for Putler's ally Assad in Syria:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0x1n996z4o
Ground is being lost fast to Rebel forces and the Syrian Army is falling back everywhere.
Russia's hands are tied and only have a few planes to bomb rebel forces, and possibly limited bombs? So far they have hit rebel forces a few times but the rebels still keep on advancing.
This time it may be all over for pencil head Assad. If so that will be one Putler ally down and his Russian fleet will have to leave Syria with nowhere in the Mediterranean to pull up for resupply, refit, repair, etc. That will weaken Putler still further. The Syrian Rebels have seen that Putler is very weakened now having to bring in North Korean forces and they are making their move.
Losing Syria as an ally would mean Putler would only have North Korea and Iran left as firm allies. I personally think Israel and the West could easily take on Iran to get rid of that menace. North Korea is a small country and could probably be left to weaken itself quickly by supporting Russia too much and potentially destabilising itself at home. The Ukrainian war sucks up many Russian resources each day and the same can be done for North Korea seeing they wish to join in.
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Looks like the EU are prepared to step up to fund Ukraine if Trump pulls out:
http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-us-withdrawal-g7-war-in-ukraine-loan-poland-deputy-finance-minister-pawel-karbownik/
A slight lessening in funding for the Ukraine war if Trump pulls out might help Ukraine avoid Russia going for the nuclear option (or similar). If Putler feels up against it by a coalition of foreign powers he might move to that option. But if the falling strength of Russian forces and the Russian economy is somewhat matched by Ukraine then Russia may not feel unfairly overwhelmed and press on without the use of WMD's. That I believe would tend to give Ukraine a good chance of winning the war by playing the long game with Russia's forces and economy running down by attrition and Russia ultimately seeing the war as no longer worth it or possible to continue, packing up and going home of its own accord. That or Russian soldiers taking it upon themselves to do likewise and/or a potential collapse and break up of the Russian Federation.
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we'll know EVERYTHING in two more months
every detail
I suspect what Europe does before Jan 20 and after Jan 20
will be different, once the European oil and gas industry gets involved again...
they have to push their own governments otherwise all bonuses go to Trump and US oil and gas executives who kiss Trump's ass who kisses Putin's ass
only ass kissers get paid
when Trump is in power, Putin will step up his sabotage against the EU and UK
and Trump will block a NATO response to Putin's bullying
as long as Trump is in power, Putin has "Carte Blanche" to twist the British Lion's tail (note: lion is now a little puddy cat) as much as it amuses him to do so
two unchecked rich bullies who help each other steal lunch money from the other kids
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I think for sure we'll have to wait and see what happens when Trump gets into Office.
In Syria it's looking like it's all over already for President sad. The rebels are advancing very rapidly with little to no resistance. The Syrian Army appears to have had enough and don't wish to risk their lives to hold some rich guy in power anymore. The rats are leaving the sinking ship and the ship is going down fast, who would have thought a couple of weeks ago that Syria's regime would be topelled so fast:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/12/06/russia-assads-rescue-citizens-leave-syria/
It looks like even Russia has given up this time and thrown in the towel. Perhaps another sign of Russia growing weakness.
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putin losing control of the syrian pipelines is a big deal, who will use them now?
what happened to the Russian Novichok Factory in Syria?
I wonder who has it now?
I'd love to see pictures of inside
syria used to be a great country to explore, before all the troubles started
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Shockingly it looks like it's all but over for Assad already!
Syrian Rebel forces have already reached the outskirts of the Syrian Capital Damascus in a lightening fast advance.
They are already there and it looks like the Syrian Regime of Assad has just hours left to live. Who would have thought that Assad would be deposed so quickly. I bet he didn't even see it coming. What will happen to him now remains to be seen. His pal Putler has deserted him and even Iran don't seem to want to bother.
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14168515/amp/Bashar-al-Assad-faces-end-Syria-rebels-reach-edge-Damascus-Russia-Iran-abandon-thousands-soldiers-desert.html
An interesting point about the oil pipelines Krim, Putler won't like that setback either.
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we'll know EVERYTHING in two more months
every detail
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I am making things up in my head, I am making things up in
my head, I am making things up in my head, I am making things up in my head, I am making
things up in my head, I am making things up in my head, I am making things up in my head,
I am making things up in my head, I am making things up in my head, I am making things up
in my head,
Krimster, believes that Russia is bribing a billionaire but that dementia boy Biden who has spent
40 years in politics and his crack head son are paragons of virtue although they both got rich
while Biden was in politics.
I want a list of all Crack heads that got rich AFTER they became crack heads. Wait, there aren't
any.
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I'd recommmend ya get some kneepads for when ya grovel before me....
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It's all over for Putler's mate Assad, the Capital Damascus has fallen to the rebels and Assad has apparently left the country probably for Russia his many long years of tyranny over:
http://www.euronews.com/2024/12/08/syrian-rebels-take-the-capital-damascus-say-bashar-al-assad-has-fled-the-country
The Syrian Army just had no fight left in them in the end and fled. Russian Warships & Submarines will have to now leave their Syrian Naval base as will Russian warplanes. The loss of Syria will weaken Russia's place in the world as with Turkey closing of access to the Black Sea for the Russian Navy they will no longer have any place to resupply and service their ships and will likely have to go all the way back to Russia.
So that's one of Putler's allies that has fallen and as small as it is still of significance. I think Iran could be another ally of Putler's to take on that would totally irradicate Russia influence in the region and further restrict help to Russia.
It's already known that Assad's family has gone to Russia to live in exile their most probably and Assad is most likely with them. A real come down I am sure from being the leader whose family had controlled Syria for decades.
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An article examining how the fall of Syria to the rebels affects Russia's war in Ukraine:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/world-news/as-syrian-rebels-topple-assad-regime-how-it-may-impact-russia-ukrainewar-7199697/amp/1
It basically exposes Russia's growing military weakness and shows that they are vulnerable to defeat. As said before Russia is being badly worn down by attrition in Ukraine and Syria is just another crack that shows how weak it is getting. Russia really isn't that far off defeat in Ukraine.
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Griftopia
Trump’s Chinese crypto “investor,” Justin Sun, who “invested” so much in Trump’s crypto company, they're now business partners, was just charged with fraud by the SEC
Trump’s announced that he’s appointing wealthy, right-wing South African venture capitalist and former PayPal exec David Sacks to be White House crypto and AI czar.
The PayPal Mafiya is EVERYWHERE!!!
Sacks is also a big Trump supporter and a big crypto owner.
Elon Musk has his own crypto called DOGE Coin, coincidence he uses the same DOGE name for Department Of Government Efficiency, or IS IT?
Elon's DOGE is not actually a government department, nor is it about efficiency
Department Of Government Efficiency, i.e middle class economic reduction plan which is necessary to transfer wealth from middle class to upper class
by cutting taxes and regulation and labor costs
WHY has Bitcoin been soaring?
Senate Republicans are working on a bill to transfer “$100 billion from the US government, from taxpayers, and hand it over to a handful of big crypto holders,
The plan is called "The Bitcoin Act" and would have the government sell off some of its gold reserves, and use the money to buy a billion Bitcoin at current market value, that would cost $100 billion
The "Whales" (billion dollar bitcoin holders)
are doing a "pump and dump"
the price will rise the more it gets pumped
and after it's sold to the treaury, it's dumped, and the price collapses
you traded gold for unicorn farts
and you will lay-off hundreds of thousands of federal workers
for this Trump/Elon scam
the billionaires will hoard the gold the Treasury sells, and when the USA defaults on the debt in 15 to 20 years
this is the gold they use to buy up the entire us economy, which is now debt free
it doesn't lower the deficit by a penny
remember, you heard it on RWD first from Krimster2 #2
Krimster's Plan For Deficit Reduction
issue a Federal $1 trillion dollar platinum coin with a portrait of Krimster riding a chariot pulled by 4 horses
mint enuff to cancel the debt
buy the debt with these coins
you are saving $1 trillion in interest every year
and it cost ya $50,000 in platinum to do it
debt holders hold the returned cash in Federal Reserve Bank Accounts
and limits are placed on them taking funds out of the USA
instead of a debt
it's massive investment credit
courtesey of John Maynard Keynes
between what Biden is handing over from now until Jan 20
plus with Europe putting a lien on impounded russian assets and SLOWLY loaning that to Ukraine (NOT to be repaid)
Ukraine could keep goin for at least another year WITHOUT USA financial support
but if Trump cuts off US AID and VITAL US intelligence going to Ukraine
it's still a "game changing move"
this is the moment that Putin will throw EVERYTHING he has at Ukraine
to convince Zelensky that the longer he waits, the more territory and people he will lose, and will not be getting anything for the exchange
being Yvray, Zelensky can do the math, and come to only one possible conclusion
difference is, Zelensky cares about his people
and Putin doesn't
every sq km of captured ukrainian land costs hundreds of dead russians and thousands seriously injured
Tovarish, kto platit?
comrad, who pays?
kto?
Middle aged Russian men with dysentary and colds
sleeping outside on the frozen mud
eating garbage
hiding from "birds"
and their families
that's who
and every single Russian who has to live in the shit hole that Putin created for them
literally one out of every 4 Russians shits in a hole in the ground
while Putin wasted $tens of billions in Syria
and a $trillion in Ukraine
and now you dumb asses are gonna get the same thing here
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It's already known that Assad's family has gone to Russia to live in exile their most probably and Assad is most likely with them.
There is a possibility that Assad's plane, which was fleeing Syria, could have been shot down by Russian S-300 air defense systems in Tartus.
Wife says that Putin wanted Assad dead because he 'knows too much.'
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Russians have pulled out completely
the USA has 1,000 troops still there...
and so does Turkey
I assume they're not in any danger from the "rebels" just assad's men and Russians are their targets
what does this imply?
Moscow’s engagement in the Syrian conflict was “critical to prevent the construction of the Qatar-Türkiye pipeline, which would be catastrophic for (Russia’s state-owned energy giant) Gazprom”.
so Turkey and Qatar with US muscle will take over Putin's pipelines?
Putin spent tens of billions$ in syria for those pipelines and for a naval base on the Med
Tarsus was his only naval base in the Med.
I imagine the CIA is having a great time there now LOL!!!
all gone and FADE AWAY
Assad's family stays on the floor above where I stay in the 4Seasons in City Center
this puts EVEN MORE pressure on Putin to get Trump to end the Ukraine war ASAP
and Trump is such a "deeply caring" compassionate human being, that I'm SURE Putin knows how to appeal to him!!!
hmmm hmmmm.....
the news starting at the end of next month is gonna get REAL INTERESTING!!!!
you will see a BIG DISINFORMATSE campaign AGAINST Zelensky in Right Wing Western Media like Fox, and Tucker Carlson to justify Trump's position
rednecks, don't worry!
as usual they'll tell ya what to think
you don't wanna try any of that on yur own
it'll just give ya a headache
oh yeah, yada yada, whaddabout Hillary's emails, Hunter's laptop, Lindburgh Baby's Rattle
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I make up dumb stuff
We know
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what? silly Rednecks!!!
When I said, "I was making stuff up", I was MAKING THAT UP!
is this yur first time in a comedy club? how was yur first beer?
hecklers get heckled
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Moscow’s engagement in the Syrian conflict was “critical to prevent the construction of the Qatar-Türkiye pipeline, which would be catastrophic for (Russia’s state-owned energy giant) Gazprom”.
so Turkey and Qatar with US muscle will take over Putin's pipelines?
Several other aspects here:
1) Syrian rebels will want to control the existing pipeline.
2) Iraq and Kurds will need to agree on who gets what from oil movement though their area into Turkey.
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There is a possibility that Assad's plane, which was fleeing Syria, could have been shot down by Russian S-300 air defense systems in Tartus.
Wife says that Putin wanted Assad dead because he 'knows too much.'
Now it appears these were false rumors put out by Russia to protect Assad.
Ukrainian news is more up to date on this than google search.
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Will we end up with more trouble from the Rebel group than Assad caused ?
Will they govern like Isis, al qaeda, taliban or what ?
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Will we end up with more trouble from the Rebel group than Assad caused ?
Will they govern like Isis, al qaeda, taliban or what ?
Yes, they will govern like Al Qaeda or ISIS. The whole world is spinning into a quagmire.
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hey BOSS!!!! 'De PLANE!!! De PLANE!!!
it's all about the pipelines
The Qatar–Turkey pipeline was a proposal to build a natural gas pipeline from the Iranian–Qatari South Pars/North Dome Gas-Condensate field towards Turkey,
where it could connect with the Nabucco pipeline to supply European customers as well as Turkey.
Turkey in the future will be making $$ off this from Azerbaijani gas and NOT Russia
One proposed route to Turkey was via Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria
Syria's rationale for earlier rejecting the Qatar proposal was "to protect the interests of our Russian ally", which WAS Europe's top supplier of natural gas.
Iraq seeks to re-activate the Kirkuk–Baniyas oil pipeline, in addition to the Basra-Aqaba pipeline with Jordan, and to revive a pipeline with Saudi Arabia that existed in the 1970s.
i'm guessin that changin title to these pipelines was a big EXTERNAL motivator in gettin rid of Assad and they allied with Assad's internal enemies
everything Putin touches, eventually withers and dies
he can't EVEN manipulate Moldova
this is a BIG blow to Putin's future!
so was losing Georgian Caspian pipelines to Atlantic Richfield
so was losing european market share to American LNG
so was losing Exxon/Mobile Arctic drilling cuz of Crimean Sanctions
so was virtually no Russian gas flowing through Ukraine this year
so was NorthStream II blowing up!!
assuming Trump frees Putin from all western sanctions in the next few months and that Zelensky does what Trump/Putin hopes and signs the truce
how much of his european gas empire has Putin already LOST?
how will he get it back?
the weaker Putin's hand, the more AID Trump will have throw in to Zelensky to get him to sign, cuz of Europe's stepped up support
Trump MAY have to TAKE Russia's 100 billion sanctioned assets in the USA and loan it to Ukraine like Europe did
that way, Trump can say he "made the deal with Ukraine" without any US money in the game
would Putin spend $100 billion to get rid of sanctions and end the war?
yes, in a microsecond!!
The Devil will be in the details
how much russian gas will flow through ukraine post-truce?
the world ends...not with a bang...but with a whimper....
yur world's gonna end that way to
cuz yur just another one of the dominos that are gonna fall like Ukraine
you rednecks are ALL gonna get a BIG surprise SOON!!!!
I KNOW what it is, but I'm NOT gonna tell ya!!!!
HAHA
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The Syrian Rebels need to kick the Russians out of Syria to make sure they are gone once and for all. Leaving them in Syria could risk Russia putting Assad back into power at a later date. There are some reports that the Syrian Rebels are going to let the Russian Military based remain which seems shocking after they fought against the Rebels killing many of them and defeating their previous attempt to remove Assad.
http://www.reuters.com/world/russia-says-syrias-assad-has-left-country-given-orders-peaceful-power-handover-2024-12-08/
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"russians said" LOL!!!!
they've already withdrawn
never believe anything until it's denied by the kremlin
Kremlin denies Krimster's stories are "made up" and claims they're "authentic"
and that instead BEEL's stories are actually American business oligarch fairy tales created to deceive the masses of American workers
by distorting the true basis of Marx's "material dialectic"
eta Pravda
you see...I belong to a certain "secret society" whose name I BELIEVE I don't GOTTA mention....
and this is "insider" knowledge
that I'm passin along to RWD Readers
of whom I hold in the HIGHEST ESTEEM!!!
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due to recent disinformation from Trump, Zelensky has posted Ukraine's official casualty totals for Russia and Ukraine
President Zelensky for the first time "officially" disclosed Ukrainian casualties:
43,000 KIA
370,000 WIA (half returned to combat duty)
Russia:
198,000 KIA
550,000 WIA
i'd assume all wounded russians were returned to duty
"Fun Russian Fact of the Day" brought to you by Powder Milk Biscuits
Russia will not start a nuclear war, for the following reason
70% of entire Russian population lives in the radiation fallout area of Moscow and st petersburg
if they all die, who will be robotniki in oligarch zavod?
oligarchs want sanctions to go away, not have their business assets destroyed
Putin is the BIGGEST oligarch
Putin is...so...close...to victory
maybe 2 more months ha has to hang on
VTB bank is the latest financial casualty in Russia
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http://x.com/GS7_89/status/1862133107442303267/photo/1
fer REAL, no joke
just like Putin dictated
Trump doesn't mention russian sanctions or the hundreds of billions in seized russian assets
i'm sure ya know WHY
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due to recent disinformation from Trump, Zelensky has posted Ukraine's official casualty totals for Russia and Ukraine
President Zelensky for the first time "officially" disclosed Ukrainian casualties:
43,000 KIA
370,000 WIA (half returned to combat duty)
Russia:
198,000 KIA
550,000 WIA
i'd assume all wounded russians were returned to duty
"Fun Russian Fact of the Day" brought to you by Powder Milk Biscuits
Russia will not start a nuclear war, for the following reason
70% of entire Russian population lives in the radiation fallout area of Moscow and st petersburg
if they all die, who will be robotniki in oligarch zavod?
oligarchs want sanctions to go away, not have their business assets destroyed
Putin is the BIGGEST oligarch
Putin is...so...close...to victory
maybe 2 more months ha has to hang on
VTB bank is the latest financial casualty in Russia
I think the KIA and WIA combined figure could be roughly right for either side. I still that that for both Russia and Ukraine the KIA figure may be higher and perhaps some being counted as WIA but died quickly after the wounding. In a war with hundreds of thousands of artillery shells and other such stuff being fired I would tend to get the impression that more would be ending up dead. That was the case in the first and second world war so it's probably the case here. I think neither Russia nor Ukraine want to let onto the true number of soldier deaths due to it being off putting to those it needs for the front. My guess is that the real number of KIA is way, way higher for both sides.
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thos figures tell me I wouldn't want to be a lower rank Russian soldier
the Russian KIA/WIA ratio is WAY higher than the USA in Iraq/Afghnistan
USA/Israel under combat, have VASTLY better medical care than Russians
Trump will wanna throw Veterans under the bus with everybody else starting with Ukrainians
to garner the cost savings from things he doesn't care about. so he can cut Elon Musk's Taxes and regulations, which he does care about
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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/12/10/2291306/-Biden-transfers-20Bn-in-impounded-funds-to-Ukraine?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
source
ukraine can fully operate for one more year if Trump cuts Ukraine off completely of military, financial and intelligence (which he will)
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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/12/10/2291306/-Biden-transfers-20Bn-in-impounded-funds-to-Ukraine?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
source
ukraine can fully operate for one more year if Trump cuts Ukraine off completely of military, financial and intelligence (which he will)
That's probably going to be more than enough time for Ukraine. Russia is likely to be long out of Artillery before then, possibly Russia will run out of Artillery in the next 4-6 months, they are already running low as the recent article I posted up tells us. Russia will use other stuff, glide bombs, etc but it's unlikely to be able to make up for the loss of its Artillery barrage. Russia:s economy is likely to be tanking it long before then also and that will happen it's war efforts a great deal also. If Ukraine is able to go on a year in the US cuts all funding then that is good news for Ukraine I think.
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if zelensky doesnt sign the Putin/Trump Ukraine surrender plan, Putin will step up the destruction of civilian targets in Ukraine
at a MUCH higher level than he has
becuz
Trump will DO NOTHING to deter Putin
Trump wants Russian sanctions to go away as much as Putin does
cuz it's how he'll get PAID his commission for sellin Ukraine to Putin
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rescuing Putin will be the FIRST priority for Trump/Musk, less than 3 weeks from now...
Russia, with its oligarchy, right-wing media monopolies, and autocratic leader and fascism, is the EXACT SAME Trump/Musk future for the United States.
I would expect that the first actions of Trump/Musk regarding Ukraine will be a harbinger of what is to come for America
if Ukraine is sold out, then expect Americans to be sold out by Trump/Musk as well...
while they lie about it and the right wing media monopoly amplifies the lies
of course, it's not gonna be about sellin out Ukraine to give Putin what he wants (and whatever Trump secretly gets in return)
it's gonna be about "ending the violence"
O' such nobility of purpose
which is ALL a ruse
IT ALL IS!
same way they spin their pursuit of self-interest as "for the good of the country"
when they lie to you about that
the people of America are now dependent on the INTEGRITY of Donald Trump and Elon Musk as they reshape the Federal Government in their own image
the INTEGRITY of Donald Trump and Elon Musk?
are you phuqueing kiddin me?
when you put yur trust in the WRONG people
you ALWAYS get burned
and ya'll are about to get INCINERATED!!!!
and yur pissed at me for warnin ya? LOL!!!
PS
From now on, what I'm gonna do, is SHOW YOU how dumb yur beliefs are, without calling YOU dumb
I'll let you be free to comclude that on yur own
I come from a much more aggressive environment then ya'll
so I'm not used to dealing with delicate people
sorry fur hurtin yur fee fees
I hopes you will be OTay
Gawsh! i'm thorry, would ya like a cookie?
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Putin's time is runnin out
he will pressure Trump to press Zelensky to end the war ASAP and drop ALL sanctions against Russia
The Russian economy is imploding
The housing market, propped up by state-subsidized mortgages at rates as low as 7% (despite real inflation estimated at 27% is collapsing.
Mortgage debt has surged to over 40% of bank lending portfolios, while household debt is at a record 22% of GDP. Once dominating housing transactions, mortgages now make up only 20% of sales, with 80% being cash purchases!
it's money laundering, more or less
Sellers are slashing prices by up to 50%, and non-performing loans are soaring, threatening to sink regional banks, which hold 40% of the market. Developers, crippled by overbuilding during the boom, are defaulting on bonds, leading to widespread losses across the construction sector.
The ripple effects are devastating.
The Russian stock market has seen all sectors decline sharply, with Gazprom down 16.7%, Ozon 23.7%, and RUSAL 23.8% in just one month.
Inflation has spiraled out of control, forcing the cost of potatoes to rise by 80% this year alone, with car prices expected to jump 20% after New Year’s.
The ruble has lost over 10% of its value three times in a single month
the ruble require a devaluation of 22-35% to sustain government spending.
International support is absent. China, dealing with its own economic woes—including an 18% youth unemployment rate and a real estate debt crisis—has limited capacity to assist Russia. Furthermore, China conducts > 60% of its trade with the U.S. and Europe versus around 2% with Russia and is unlikely to risk sanctions for a marginal ally.
Public dissatisfaction is growing as the economy crumbles. Living costs are skyrocketing, wages are stagnant, and layoffs are widespread. In 2024, over 130,000 jobs were cut in 457 companies, including global tech giants like Tesla, Amazon, and Google. The regime’s promise of economic stability is collapsing, and so is Putin’s political contract with his people.
Historically, economic collapse has toppled autocrats, and Russia’s current trajectory mirrors these patterns. Putin’s inability to stabilize the economy or shield ordinary Russians from hardship is eroding his legitimacy among both the public and the elites. With rising discontent, fractured loyalty from oligarchs, and economic freefall, Russia is on the brink of political upheaval. The collapse of Putin’s regime may no longer be a distant prospect—it is rapidly becoming an imminent reality.
UNLESS Trump and Musk resque him in the next 90 days!!!!!
this'll will be damned interesting to watch
I expect a big smear campaign against zelensky on Fox, etc.
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Russian gas has flowed through Ukraine for decades, mainly through a Soviet-built pipeline that begins in Sudzha, a town in Russia’s Kursk region currently under the control of Ukrainian forces, and ends near Uzhhorod, on Ukraine’s western border with Slovakia.
Gas continued to flow based on a 2019 agreement after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, providing revenue for both countries. Kyiv made hundreds of millions of euros a year in transit fees. Negotiations took place last year to extend the deal but came to nothing.
“Russian gas has not been supplied for transit via Ukraine since 8:00 am [Moscow time, 06:00 GMT],” Russia’s Gazprom said in a statement on Wednesday.
Ukraine’s energy minister, German Galushchenko, confirmed Ukraine had stopped transit flows, calling the move “historic” in a statement on Wednesday. “Russia is losing its markets, it will suffer financial losses,” he said.
There were some swift effects, with the breakaway Moldovan region of Transnistria losing heating and hot water on Wednesday morning.
A statement on the website of Tirasteploenergo, the local energy company, said the heating cuts took effect at 7am local time (06:00 GMT) on Wednesday. It urged residents to dress warmly, gather family members together in a single room, hang blankets or thick curtains over windows and balcony doors, and use electric heaters.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/01/breakaway-moldovan-region-cuts-heating-and-hot-water-as-russia-stops-gas-flow
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last night a Ukrainian Naval Drone armed with an air-to-air R-73 missile shot down an Mi-8 Helicoper near Sevastopol!!!!
an historic first - first naval drone to shoot down an aircraft in combat
see pic
missile shooting robotic speed boats for ramming ships and bridges
while this was goin on another drone destroyed a TOR AA missile system just outside Sevastopol
if I still lived in Sevastopol, I'd have to "tape up" all my windows, so the glass doesn't fly when they shatter
like they did in Israel
getting yur windows replaced when there's 500 other people trying to do it is a whole lotta fun!!!!
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Russian gas has flowed through Ukraine for decades, mainly through a Soviet-built pipeline that begins in Sudzha, a town in Russia’s Kursk region currently under the control of Ukrainian forces, and ends near Uzhhorod, on Ukraine’s western border with Slovakia.
Gas continued to flow based on a 2019 agreement after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, providing revenue for both countries. Kyiv made hundreds of millions of euros a year in transit fees. Negotiations took place last year to extend the deal but came to nothing.
“Russian gas has not been supplied for transit via Ukraine since 8:00 am [Moscow time, 06:00 GMT],” Russia’s Gazprom said in a statement on Wednesday.
Ukraine’s energy minister, German Galushchenko, confirmed Ukraine had stopped transit flows, calling the move “historic” in a statement on Wednesday. “Russia is losing its markets, it will suffer financial losses,” he said.
There were some swift effects, with the breakaway Moldovan region of Transnistria losing heating and hot water on Wednesday morning.
A statement on the website of Tirasteploenergo, the local energy company, said the heating cuts took effect at 7am local time (06:00 GMT) on Wednesday. It urged residents to dress warmly, gather family members together in a single room, hang blankets or thick curtains over windows and balcony doors, and use electric heaters.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/01/breakaway-moldovan-region-cuts-heating-and-hot-water-as-russia-stops-gas-flow
In theory potential for the US to sell even more LPG/LNG to Europe with the shutting of the Russian Gas through the Ukrainian pipeline. Does Trump want to lose out on such a situation? Possibly there might be more go in it for Trump if he forgets about bothering with a peace deal for Putler and sees how things pan out. Potentially if Russia ends up cracking up economically as now looks to be the way there may be more in it for Trump waiting it out for Russia's collapse.
I wonder how Trump will see it 🤔
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Russia's share of Europe's gas market dropped from 40% to 10%
USA LNG picked up about half of that
that will only increase under Trump
while Turkey will take over Russia's pipeline in Syria
there's an ecological disaster in the black sea now, due to 2 russian oil tankers sinking
all the beaches around sevastopol have been dug up to make trenches for an invasion that never came
so even IF things get back "to nomal" there's a LOT OF WORK to do to ACTUALLY get back to normal
Russia, with sanctions removed, will still be in a war time economy, this will help them rebuild their military industrial complex
everything in Russia has been hollowed out by theft and needs replenishment for the next apparacki thieves to steal
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I'm still hoping on the Russian economy collapsing and Russia going back to post USSR day in the 90s of it being broke and unable to do anything. Better still would be if it breaks up into different regional countries. Russia way back came about as a region conquering neighbouring regions and getting larger and larger and a larger army with each region it conquered. It them steam rolled over it's neighbouring regions with by force if having the largest army.
If the process gets reversed then it will struggle to ever come back as neighbouring regions will all have comparable armies and it won't be able to bully by having the largest army anymore.
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ya have to separate fact from kremlin fiction when contemplating Russia's so-called economy
the metrics I look at paint a pretty grim picture, particularly in banking, construction and non-military mfg sector
it's a depression there
inflation is choking the life out of ordinary working class Russians
and all this inflation is becuz of the decisions of one person
was it worth sacrificing life and limb of 800,00 Russians
a $trillion cost
for a bunch of bombed out ruins?
YES! it was!!! cuz it VERY SLIGHTLY enhanced Putin's position giving him war-time powers over the Russian people
to let him play Stalin
Putin considers himself WAY more important than the Russian People
they're pawns for him to use however he wants
but you can tell, that once something does start "taking off" against Putin, it'll GROW rapidly
the circus that's coming here will now be a middleman for the sell-out of Ukraine
all of the "negotiation" and pushback is for show
Putin and Trump/Musk already made a deal, but they gotta "wash it" before it's fit for public consumption
and pretend it's all about PEACE and not "a piece"
in the USA, we will soon have an "economic emergency" to tell the middle class they need to shoulder more of the debt burden caused by tax cuts to the wealthy
ATTENTION! EVERYONE TO GET FROM STREET!
deportation camps and tarriffs coming
Trump and Putin will soon meet at "Yalta For Crypto Felons" to negotiate the sale of Ukraine
lying is SUCH an essential element of all politics, and that's all yur gonna hear from them regarding this topic
just lies
the devil is gonna be in the details
Will Putin's Real Estate Agent, be able to convince Europe to act in conjunction with him and give Putin 100% sanction relief - or not...
will this great magnificent victory be enuff to cement Putin's view of himself as Vladimir The Great or will it fall short??
hehe Ukraine has "KAMERA SQUAD" like Russia
they watched the movie "The Hateful EIGHT"
and a lightbulb turned on
and they consulted their "Catalog of Poisons" published by the KGB in the 1930s
and found the perfect one
orally administered
death by PROFOUND rectal bleeding
targeted the husband of one of Putin's Propagandists
THIS is how ya do it
PS
good news Transnistria may collapse cuz of Gaz
Russians tried to get all their weapons back from Syria to use in Ukraine
but Syrians said - NO!!!
Putin is a GREAT example of what happens when an autocrat controls the economy
too bad no one is paying attention
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http://x.com/AVindman/status/1877801251125010867
one of Putin's problems is ALL his advisors are "YES MEN"
yes men only tell the GREAT LEADER what he wants to hear
and NOT what he needs to hear
Putin wanted to hear that he could take Kiev in 3 days
and that's what the YES MEN told him
conclusion: autocrats are the VERY WORST kind of leaders, becuz ONLY the GREAT LEADER matters to the GREAT LEADER
Automaidan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automaidan
ge fraun auf der automaidan
PS
note to poorly educated/brain washed 'muricans
Marxism = workers own the means of production and receive the benefit of "surplus production"
Stalinism = the state owns the means of production and receive the benefit of "surplus production" and OWNS the workers to!
Capitalists = oligarchs own the means of production and receive the benefit of "surplus production" and pay workers as little as possible
Fox News lies and tells ya Marxism is Stalinism
and in yur universe, whatever Fox sez is true....
welcome to George Orwell's post truth dystopia
I hope there is intelligent life SOMWHERE in the universe
cuz there's phuque-all down here on this planet
from now on, it's gonna be misanthropy all the way DOWN
austerity, shock doctrine, ethnic cleansing, fascism, petty corruption
and ya'll are gonna have FUN FUN FUN till yur Daddy takes yur T-Bird AWAAAYYY!!!!
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The latest from the war around the Pokrovsk area:
http://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2025/01/12/russian-forces-advance-towards-ukraines-dnipro-region/
Looks like Russia are playing a crafty tactic here to try and go way past Pokrovsk in the open countryside which is more easy to gain and then once far part Pokrovsk close and cut off access to the city. Ukraine has to try and counter this manoeuvre by Russia and hopefully some muddy boggy terrain will help.
I definitely think that Ukraine needs to lower the draft age to now get far more men to the front.
In Ukraine's favour several sources including this one are pointing to Russia's forces getting eventually exhausted, something I've been saying for a while now.
Krim it is heartening to hear your news that the Russian economy is getting in a really bad way in some sectors, that will hopefully start to take its tool on Russia's war efforts.
If I were Ukraine I would now try and use a lot of Himars and Storm Shadow missiles to beat back the Russian advance around Pokrovsk. Try and inflict a heavy a toll on Russian forces all while defending to exhaust Russian forces as quickly as possible. Taking out some extra Russian troops, armour, artillery, etc will help blunt Russia's attack around Pokrovsk and lead quicker to their exhaustion. I were Ukraine that is where I would aim efforts now. Once Russia's forces are exhausted and at a standstill it's all over for Russia.
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the Afd being a fascist political organisation is openly pro-Russian like MAGA
this is a good simple indicator for western politicians to determine their fascism IQ, how much they love Putin
if ya all thought that the defense department was to defend American citizens
you are VERY mistaken
Musk's DOGE couldn't find a single penny to cut from the Pentagon, unlike health care for the poor
therefor the Pentagon does NOT pertain to the poor or middle class
cuz if it was, it woulda got cuts
Putin is likely trying to do as much damage to Ukraine as possible as they do the same
ifn it were me, if I were Putin, I'd try to take Zaporizhzhia and Kharkiv before the sell-out
all the speculation will be over soon...
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Some recent indication of total Russian losses of the Ukraine war so far. Quite staggering losses really. I doubt the Russians can have much left:
http://x.com/ukraine_world/status/1879075984848375918?t=XuMmGxaYUBy3a36dk5Doxw&s=19
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Russia can let a lot of North Koreans, Indians, and Iranians die for them also.
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the #dead don't matter,
in Russia, nothing really matters
lost equipment will be replaced by oligarch owned factories over next 2 decades in preparation for round #2
oligarchs will launder their share of re-armamnet spending in trump towers
it doesn't even matter that the Russian economy is MUCHJ worse off than official statistics
to the point that Russia is preparing for food rationing and freezing all bank accounts over a small limit by the end of the year, if the war isn't over
due to all the bad loans the government created to fund the war which has clobbered the banking system
putin rages on TV over per-capita meat consumption in russia and blames this for inflation
the largest country on earth with the largest amount of natural resources
can't feed itself
in Russia, the only thing that matters is the GREAT LEADER
not a million dead or maimed
or the fact that 1/4 of Russia doesn't have indoor plumbing
that the $trillion spent on the war could've fixed
that hospitals are falling apart, schools closing to save money
none of this matters in the slightest
Americans USED to be able to consider their form of government superior to what Russia has
guess what dumpkopfs
I think there's a 50% chance that the national guard commanded by a Fox news host is gonna shoot me sometime this summer in riot season
as a geezer, I find the romantic notion of dying on the barricaide to be appealing, better than ML's Nitrogen or Hospice or other geezer exit routes
if death has a 1,000 doors, this is the one I wanna open
Helmet with face shield
Class III vest
gas mask
fireproof gloves for pickin up CS grenades and throwin em back
container of milk and paper towels for cs gas
I don't intend to be armed
just resisting and protesting
i'll make protest signs, and I'll use what I got 'ole BEEL riled up with to provoke La Guardia National into doin a "Kent State"
so thanks BEEL for validating my comments as causing redneck outrage
that's EXACTLY what I want to do on the barricaide
I want to bait them into shooting an ole geezer on national TV
like they did in Kyiv
cuz I don't want russia to happen here
and american maidan is the only thing that can save us from becoming an autocratic Trump/Musk oligarchy
it's up to the people to save themselves and not depend on democrats or any politicians
we're past that now
if you don't standup like Ukrainians did at maidan, then yur all gonna be slaves like Russians
make yur choice...
give me liberty
or give me death
is mine
the only reason Trump chose the fox news host for Sec of Defense
is that Trump knows that when he orders him to shoot protestors, he will
how long was yanukovich in power after he shot 100+ protesters?
you survivors should keep track
maybe we'll beat Ukraine's record
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cuz I don't want russia to happen here
and american maidan is the only thing that can save us from becoming an autocratic Trump/Musk oligarchy
it's up to the people to save themselves and not depend on democrats or any politicians
we're past that now
if you don't standup like Ukrainians did at maidan, then yur all gonna be slaves like Russians
make yur choice...
give me liberty
or give me death
is mine
the only reason Trump chose the fox news host for Sec of Defense
is that Trump knows that when he orders him to shoot protestors, he will
how long was yanukovich in power after he shot 100+ protesters?
you survivors should keep track
maybe we'll beat Ukraine's record
Looks like old man Biden is with you on that one Krim:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1weqzl3ydro
Well only four more days until we find out now when Trump gets into Office.
Meanwhile Sturmer is in Kyiv signing a 100 year partnership agreement with Kyiv. Of course that means nothing if Ukraine doesn't last that long lol. Whether Ukraine will get more than just words and decent enough back up is another question.
Ukraine potentially only needs to last on a few more months maybe as little as 2-3 months before Russia may run out of Armaments at the front and lose all momentum. At the moment Pokrovsk is the main area of activity at the front. Ideally Ukraine needs to hold onto Pokrovsk and get the Russian lines to cease in their advance here to win out.
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OTD in 1945, Raoul Wallenberg, a Swedish diplomat who saved 15,000 Jews in WW2, was kidnapped by the Soviet NKVD who took him to Moscow & killed him.
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the gaza war looks like it's over.....
hamas lost and is to be replaced by the Palestinian Authority
hezboolah lost
houthis lost
Iran lost
Putin has recently set things up so that Iran can send troops to Ukraine like North Korea
some of the shiploads of weapons that Israel captured in syria and brought to Israel will end up in western Ukraine this year
the enemy of yur enemies are yur friends
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/russia-oil-canada-sanctions-1.7432083
The sanctions are more holey than a church.
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it's all gonna start unraveling....
Germany is next
http://x.com/i/status/1881437685312786860
video from the Great Patriotic War
the point at which the Nazis were closest to Moscow
those of us who've been to Moscow, please note the attire of the German soldiers
and contrast it to what the Russians were wearing
little things matter
Die Welt Und Montag
German Aid on hold
http://x.com/i/status/1881437685312786860
this will greatly undermine Ukraine's negotiating position
in the past year despite expending hundreds of thousands of soldiers and hundreds of billions of $$, very little new Ukrainian territory was seized by Russia
it's becuz Ukraine has turned the tables and created heavily mined deep defensive layers
at this rate it would take Russia decades to reach Kyiv, and Putin doesn't have that much time
Ukraine depends on the western supply lines
cutting these lines is Putin's objective
and he has a carrot to dangle in front of western oligarchs to get them to do his bidding
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Well initial sign from Trump on Ukraine is not bad:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn0y51z7wedt
I was somewhat surprised to see that he is threatening Russia with more sanctions and tariffs if Russia does not end it's war in Ukraine.
I know to there may be cause for skepticism that this is just a ploy on Trumps part. However, with the Russian economy on the ropes and it's military being badly worn down it may be that Trump has seen this and sees that dealing Russia an easy final blow will put it out of action and the US in a better place as a result of it.
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what Trump says, he doesn't do
what Trump does, he doesn't say
ignore all the words
in boxing there's "fakes" and "jabs" and "punches"
only pay attention to jabs and punches
Trump is posturing for Putin
soon there will be a closed door secret meeting between the two
pay attention to what they say after the meeting
this is the world's ultimate poker game
under no condition would Putin ever fold
he can lose over and over and over
and he'll keep playing
becuz he has an infinite stack of gopnick chips to play with
he'll only leave the table when he's ahead and can cash in
Trump's whole raison d'etre for Putin
is to use Trump as leverage to get rid of all the West's sanctions on Russia
he can't win without that
when they "ante up"
All sanctions will go away
All captured Ukrainian territory is now Russian
Ne Nato for next 20 years
drop war crimes charges
and then there's the "off-balance sheet" items we can't really talk about
(cough)Rosneft(cough)
and
(cough)City Center(cough)
anyone got a cough drop?
the banality of evil
leads to the bonfire of all vanity
and when all is burned down to the ground
extinguishing the light and leaving the world dark
and centuries are needed to rebuild it back
they'll just do the same thing again
and ya ask me, "why so glum chum"
well...let me tell ya why
I started out as a treasure hunting grave robber in Crimea
and instead ended up having a spiritual awakening
as I dug through layer after layer of war and death
when I dug through the ruins of a burned cathedral in Chersonese
and rubbed some of the dark soil mixed with charcoal between my fingers
I can smell the smoke from the fire lit by Ghengis Khan's Grandson's horde
if you take the right drugs
and deeply inhale the charcoal
you can not only smell it
you can start to hear it and see it as well
I was taught how to do this by an ole staruska rusalka
but I didn't use her potion, I used mine
salvia divinorum
when that starooshka saw me zoom out
she wanted some to
and it knocked her on her jhoppa LOL!!!!
good thing I have been charmed by maya bubba
so rusalka can't do nichy vo!!!!
ha ha!!
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So far we have Trump threatening more sanctions on Russia if they don't do a deal and end its war in Ukraine. Russia has fired back that Ukraine was turning anti-Russian and so was a perceived threat on its border.
I could see something like you suggest being put forward by Putler, Russia keeps current territory and no NATO join up for Ukraine for at least 20 years or perhaps ever, same with EU membership, etc...
Then Trump threatening to lift sanctions on Russia if Ukraine doesn't agree while the war is still going on. To try and put pressure on Ukraine to agree. However, will that be enough? In theory Ukraine could continue the war even if the US lifts sanctions on Russia. The EU and the UK will still have sanctions in place and most of the trade in oil, gas, etc is done with the EU/Europe. Odds are even if Russia used the US to try and circumvent these sanctions the EU/UK would block a US circumvention route.
Russia probably doesn't donate lot of trade with the US as so far away. So even though the US is a big economy on are the US lifting sanctions on Russia may not be of that big a boost to Russia's economy. At the moment Russia's economy is hit by labour shortages - because of conscription & it's citizens fleeing abroad, it has high inflation and also high interest rates. Probably also big debts, tax revenue down, industry stagnant/declining, foreign money reserves issues, etc... So is Russia's economic situation already too far gone for US lifting sanctions to make much difference?
I personally don't think that Russia's economy would improve much as it's too late in the day. Only if the war in Ukraine ends and all sanctions are lifted might Russia's economy improve. Bearing in mind the US probably has ample supply of oil & gas in Texas, elsewhere in the US and offshore and other suppliers closer to home as well as a electric car market and alternatives I don't think that Trump lifting sanctions on Russia will help much.
Mostly I think it will be down to the EU, Von der Leyen, Germany & France, etc to decide if it will back up Ukraine. So far Von der Leyen seems whole heartedly behind Ukraine. It would be embarrassing for her for Ukraine to be off the menu for membership even though it's in no state for membership. I also get the impression she is not a fan of Trump and won't be willing to fold to him. So, so long as this doesn't change and the EU keeps backing Ukraine then I think Trump may lack the arm twisting power with Ukraine.
I can definitely see Trump not giving Ukraine any more funding as that in theory would go against his 'America First' approach. Whether he is that bothered trying to pursue Ukraine any further post sanctions dropping remains to be seen. I am not so sure he will if he indeed has anything else to twist their arm further with. I think Trump's attention may be more fixated on issues in and around the US.
Elon Musk I can see as running for President in 2028. He'll probably win the nomination against Vancy pants as I don't see Vance as being able to project himself as well. Assuming all sh*r doesn't hit the fan I think Musk stands a very high chance of being President in 2028. The Democrats are unfortunately at the moment still searching.
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Musk isn't born in US though
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why is it love and grace almost never gets a chance
and hate always gets in for free?
why is one so much easier than the other?
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lifting russian sanctions will boost the US dollar...
before 2014, a plane load of US $100 Notes would land every day in Moscow
we're talkin an 18 wheelr truck load of $100
this all flowed into the banking system
this is some thing I saw myself
then there's the crypto....OMG....
they're gettin rid of all US crypto regs
instead of all that oil goin to asia
it wants to go europe
and Russia wants to add the siberian arctic fields to this trade
and ship across the arctic
none of that will happen if sanctions are still there
the most difficult part of the negotiation is actually about sanctiions
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I think Musk stands a very high chance of being President in 2028.
Ask Arnold about this.
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comrads....
please listen to me...
as a zhid who has lived in Russia
whose roots comes from those who spent over 1,000 years staying at least one step ahead of dull witted alchogoloki
thus in posession of a genetic pre-disposition as someone who can negotiate circles around even the best toughest Russian negotiators
allow me to impart some wisdom, or is it only knowledge, you decide...
A Russian "Tell" is always this...
when the Russian gives ya a list of demands
the last one on the list is ALWAYS the most important!
PONNELLE?
smatree...and vidisch well
"Any ceasefire would only be possible if it was more than just a freezing of the fighting but aimed at a final, binding resolution to the causes of the war.
Russia would not negotiate over the four regions of Ukraine that are “now part” of Russia: Crimea, the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts (including those parts Moscow does not currently control) which Putin now says is in response to its citizens’ calls for “self-determination” in accordance with [Moscow’s interpretation] of “the UN Charter.”
A simple delay to Ukraine joining NATO no matter how long was unacceptable – Kyiv should abandon all plans to join the alliance and declare itself a neutral country.
Ukraine must enact legal guarantees to respect and protect the rights and interests including the language and culture of its Russian-speaking minorities.
All sanctions against Russia must be lifted.
"
so here's how it's gonna "play out"
1. Donald Trump will apologize to Putin for Nato's expansion
2. All sanctions from Russia removed
in exchange, Trump will get a 20 year delay for NATO entry, instead of never
China will be pissed if Putin makes this deal
so will Iran
goodby BRICs
territory issues settled by fake referdum like in Crimea
Putin never losses an election...never...ever...
from 1918 to 1939 was only 21 years
that might be how long Ukraine has until Russo-Ukrainian War II
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Musk isn't born in US though
You're right, surprised me he could easily pass for an American. Slight oversight there. Maybe can get his mate Donald to change that 🤔
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agreed. This is what Putin wants. Then he will declare a victory in Russia and bobedobesie + kult lichnosti will consume Russia with a new force
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You're right, surprised me he could easily pass for an American. Slight oversight there. Maybe can get his mate Donald to change that 🤔
Meanwhile people are already making fun of Musk's famous salute :D
http://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=639475995411586&rdid=hUDBu4j3Hlh8qvLV (http://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=639475995411586&rdid=hUDBu4j3Hlh8qvLV)
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comrads....
please listen to me...
as a zhid who has lived in Russia
someone who has negotiated circles around even the best toughest Russian negotiators
A Russian "Tell" is always this...
when the Russian gives ya a list of demands
the last one on the list is ALWAYS the most important!
PONNELLE?
smatree...and vidisch well
"Any ceasefire would only be possible if it was more than just a freezing of the fighting but aimed at a final, binding resolution to the causes of the war.
Russia would not negotiate over the four regions of Ukraine that are “now part” of Russia: Crimea, the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts (including those parts Moscow does not currently control) which Putin now says is in response to its citizens’ calls for “self-determination” in accordance with [Moscow’s interpretation] of “the UN Charter.”
A simple delay to Ukraine joining NATO no matter how long was unacceptable – Kyiv should abandon all plans to join the alliance and declare itself a neutral country.
Ukraine must enact legal guarantees to respect and protect the rights and interests including the language and culture of its Russian-speaking minorities.
All sanctions against Russia must be lifted.
"
so here's how it's gonna "play out"
1. Donald Trump will apologize to Putin for Nato's expansion
2. All sanctions from Russia removed
in exchange, Trump will get a 20 year delay for NATO entry, instead of never
China will be pissed if Putin makes this deal
so will Iran
goodby BRICs
I doubt a 20 year wait to get into NATO assuming Russia doesn't attack again in that time will be enticing to Ukraine.
The US lifting it's sanctions on Russia I cannot see will do anything for Russia significant enough to give it an upper hand fighting in Ukraine. So long as Ukraine can get funding from the EU it can simply dig in and wait while Russia does itself in trying to slowly capture a little more of its soil. Von der Leyen seems very much opposed to Trump and is likely to try and take the opportunity to replace the US leading in Europe by backing Ukraine.
The UK's Kier Starmer is a weak man it seems and while he backs Ukraine his attempts will likely not be strong enough. If the UK threw all it's weight behind Ukraine and dug deep to give big funding and supply of Armaments that could help out a lot, Boris may have done. As it is it's likely to be having to hope to rely on the EU to continue funding the war in Ukraine. Russia isn't the power it started the war at and so not as huge funding will likely be needed now to keep Ukraine holding on.
We'll see what happens in the coming days & weeks for sure, but the more time that passes the more knackered out Russia becomes and the closer it gets to hitting the wall on its economy and military situation.
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Musk, the techno oligarch is gonna define AGI, Artifical General Intelligence, as AI that is able to generate $100 BILLION/YR in revenue
the only way it can reach that amount is by replacing human workers with AI ones
and that's how the oligarch profits
and that's why they want low taxes
so they can keep it all, that's why it's called keepitalism
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Volker, Trumps last term special envoy to Ukraine has suggested ways that Trump may put pressure on Putin to end the war:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn0y51z7wedt
http://euromaidanpress.com/2025/01/22/politico-us-may-use-frozen-russian-assets-to-force-moscow-negotiate-on-peace-deal-says-volker/
We'll see which way Trump eventually swings but I think potentially he may see that he has come come to Office with Russia in a weak state after three years of war. As Volker points out, Russia doesn't really have months of war left in it, it's economy is not going to hold up and it's military can't sustain the pace it's been fighting at for much longer.
I personally think that the Ukraine war will continue as is for some time. Zelensky won't want to give up any land to Putler, Putler won't want to just leave Ukraine. Neither can likely afford a peace deal where either is seen as conceding land. Putler needs the land to satisfy his Oligarchs, Zelensky his own Oligarchs and the integrity of Ukraine. Both are likely to face peril after a peace deal where they lose land. So the same holds both of them locked in war.
Myself I am looking forward to the time in the near future when Russia can't take no more. When Russia's economy cracks up, disorder and chaos in Russia ensue and it's military runs out of its Soviet stockpile of Armaments. Seeing Russia completely lose the edge at the front and no longer having the big stick of it's once mighty army to threaten and beat smaller countries with is going to be a sight to be savoured. I definitely hope that day comes and it could just be months away by the looks of it.
Here if recent Andrew Tate has announced his bid to become PM of the UK backed by Elon Musk. Musk fell out with Nigel Farage when Farage made it clear to Musk that Tommy Robinson (English Defence League) has no place in his party, Reform. Farage knows how the bulk of the UK electorate are very moderate and having someone like Tommy Robinson around is going to be like the kiss of death to his chances at the next election - since Tommy is seen as being racist. Now Elon has created a problem as Andrew Tate will risk splitting the vote with Reform and potentially neither doing very well. I am not so sure that Elon understands UK politics very well and is thinking he can play puppeteer. Farage is well liked in the UK and while Tate could be a formidable opponent Farage is not likely to lose support easily.
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Elon Musk I can see as running for President in 2028. He'll probably win the nomination
against Vancy pants as I don't see Vance as being able to project himself as well.
I think that Baron Trump should be considered as Leader of the House of Lords.
Baron is right there in his name! I wonder if there could be any reason that he
wouldn't be immediately considered the top candidate? Since his name is Baron
shouldn't he get some sort of hereditary title as well?
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Volker, Trumps last term special envoy to Ukraine has suggested ways that Trump may
put pressure on Putin to end the war:
I would love that some sort of sanction would pressure Putin to end the war.
I think the best way would be to quietly move 250 F16's to Poland and maybe
900 Abrams tanks. Ukraine has 200 pilots trained on the F16. The Kremlin
would know that they could be turned over to Ukraine as easily as not.
Putin doesn't care if 100K young men from the Altai Republic die or not. He
doesn't care if pensioners have to eat mice to live. Those silly sanctions doesn't
affect how much caviar he has on his next piece of toast, he doesn't care about
lives, or sanctions.
He does care about looking bad.
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speak softly, but carry a big stick....eh Teddy?
no...this is the "Age of Aquarius" we don't use sticks...ewww....
we're enlightened, we only use carrots
i'm not a fan of the British Aristocracy or the American one either
personality cults are always WEIRD
Mao said "power grows out of the barrel of a gun"
that's so old fashioned
Mao was a Chinese Peasant
and he didn't know that money is even MORE powerful, it's the ONLY thing Putin cares about
Considering the US Treasury KNOWS how Putin has laundered his money and where it is
if the USA was interested in "standing up to Putin"
they could do it with a dozen FBI Agents and Attorneys
but they ain't gonna do that
now are they?
ergo - what do you conclude doma malchick?
Li'l Mini Kim and L'il Mini Putin would LOVE Barron Trump, dress him up as Captain America and make him the Ambassador to them both!!!!
Musk reminds me of myself, when I was MUCH younger, before I learned how to control my autism
dewds "on the spectrum" will mentally benefit from the discipline learned from military service
and not end up with Musk's behavior
if yur smart, do yur service in the air force or space force
and you can skip out on the trauma inducing aspects of killing people to make a living
and just wear yur uniform and do yur job
until yur a civilian again
if yur a russki kid, study Englisski/Spanish and electronics, join a patriotic group
and apply at the GRU
non college grads can get enlisted positions
and college grads are officer candidates, especially with fluent English/Spanish
the best GRU jobs are in the "Aquarium"
you will never sleep in the mud in winter or be shot at by hohols!!!!
and it'll look damn good on yur resume
slovo!
PS
they shall NOT care for him who shall have borne the battle, nor for his widow, or his orphan
the dead are always forgotten
'tis the season of scrooge and grinch
not of mercy and grace
can ye spare any coppers, me bruther
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Musk reminds me of myself, when I was MUCH younger, before I learned how to control my autism
dewds "on the spectrum" will mentally benefit from the discipline learned from military service
and not end up with Musk's behavior
You mean like this:
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I would love that some sort of sanction would pressure Putin to end the war.
I think the best way would be to quietly move 250 F16's to Poland and maybe
900 Abrams tanks. Ukraine has 200 pilots trained on the F16. The Kremlin
would know that they could be turned over to Ukraine as easily as not.
Putin doesn't care if 100K young men from the Altai Republic die or not. He
doesn't care if pensioners have to eat mice to live. Those silly sanctions doesn't
affect how much caviar he has on his next piece of toast, he doesn't care about
lives, or sanctions.
He does care about looking bad.
I wish the UK would be led by someone who would back up Ukraine more fully with support like this, but sadly I doubt Kier Starmer will ever be a man who can take decisive action and change the world for the better. Boris Johnson was more willing to step forward and lead where it needed it.
However, so long as Ukraine gets enough supply's and money to hold on I think Russia is done for. It looks like it's only a few months more war and Russia will be struggling to hold itself together never mind capture Ukraine.
Today at Davos Trump was focusing on hitting Russia economically to end the war:
http://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/23/trump-at-davos-nato-5-push-tariff-warnings-for-europe
If oil prices to the west can be lowered by the Saudi's, etc then Russia will struggle more economically.
The biggest fear is if Trump tries to pressure Ukraine into a peace deal with Russia that gives Russia any land. Hopefully Trump won't do that or any other gameplay. I think there is a potential for a new FSU age on the horizon if the Russian Federation breaks up. Just think of all the choice of different ex-Federation States to visit as new countries! :D
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yeah...just total lack of self-reflection
yeah...more or less...
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I think that what Trump was told to say was rather clever...
to go from an optimistic "24 hours" to, "really, it's up to Putin"
puts the ball firmly in Putin's court....
and Putin hasn't returned the serve
another "Russian Tell"
Trump/Zelensky...get rid of some sanctions
Putin...NYET! all Sanctions
I think Trump/Zelensky still want to have some kind of future leverage over Putin
can't see how they're gonna get that from him...give him WHAT in return....
nope...
sanctions are the "BIG THING" in the middle of the road thst's blocking it
I doubt Trump will have any problem blaming Democrats for NATO expansion
exonerating Putin, and blaming Democrats for forcing Putin to stop it
if he does that, and:
1. voting referendum like the one in Crimea to legalize the steal
2. no more sanctions
3. no more western weapons to ukraine
4. no war crimes
then it's PARTY TIME in the Kremlin
and don't forget to stop by the Marina at Lake Toropets Family Recreation Area
Russia's version of Amerikanski Crater Lake in Oregon!!
I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony
and buy the world some cocainia in a market in Bolivia
watching Spetsnaz malchiky pass out in the mountains
while geezer has a wad of coca leaves and lime, aka "chaw"
kak de la? hahahaha
old mining towns and camoflaged narco submarine factories staffed by car mechanics and carpenters
OMG!!! WTF did I discover?
buenos dios amigos!!!!
badges?
chinese x-ray and gamma ray spectrometers are now as low as $2,500, but for how long I don't know
perfect for use all around Potosi or actually any place with mountains
I was kinda blown away finding copper and silver minerals in New Jersey of all places
using a hand-held x-ray spectrometer....
when I was in the Rand Mining District in southern California
I used a high power UV LED Light to hunt for Scheelite which is tungsten ore
I found quite a large amount
if I was living there, I could've made a business out of this....
In Ukraine, the area around Dnipro would be a great place to prospect this way lookin for Scandium
far Western Ukraine has MASSIVE amber fields, but they're controlled by local mafiyas that you don't wanna mess with
you'd have to find a new obscure territory that's remote, out of view
in the Desna river north of Kyiv
you can use a "gold dredge" to dredge little Uranium beads out of the river that settles down to bedrock
keep it in a lead cylinder...there's a "special radioaktiv market" you can sell or buy in Podil cross the Dnipr
usually only on weekends and holidays
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If oil prices to the west can be lowered by the Saudi's, etc then Russia will struggle more economically.
The biggest fear is if Trump tries to pressure Ukraine into a peace deal with Russia that gives Russia any land. Hopefully Trump won't do that or any other gameplay. I think there is a potential for a new FSU age on the horizon if the Russian Federation breaks up. Just think of all the choice of different ex-Federation States to visit as new countries! :D
Trump is going to do game play, he can't help it. He is going to spin horrible scenarios to
both sides to the point that going to the table to negotiate is the only thing that makes
sense.
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Trump
(http://jewishworldreview.com/carics/anti_trump_explodes.jpg?ref=relatedBox)
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knee go she ate
as a god-fearing white Christian American Patriot...
IMHO...
whatever Putin wins...Zelensky loses
and whatever Zelensky wins, Putin loses
therefor, neither has a common interest
if Zelensky can't win, then his best strategy will be to minimize his losses
which means making concessions to Putin
if Trump cancels US sanctions will the EU do the same, otherwise it gives the USA a big trade advantage
this is not just a carrot, oh no my friends...this is a carrot farm...and tomorrow is harvest time....
all ye hungry rabbits gather 'round.....
what's sad, is ALL THIS was supposed to have happened WAY back in 2017 with Rex Tillerson
but it got derailed by Manafort
but, if all's well that ends well, Exxon Mobil will be back in the North Far East
earliest will be this summer
so i'm guessin maybe summer 2026
at that point, simple fer me to setup new "Patrons" both in the USA and Russia
and I can return to Russia
if I want....
I have a feeling, that if I saw health care there, I'd scream and run away
every time I'd go outside, I'd get paranoid that some veteran without legs was staring at me becuz Im a foreigner
so, cuz of that, I feel inclines to reside in my swamp
alligators are very easy to deal with
i'd like to have one as a pet, but it would eat all the other animals that live here
alligator jaws have a LOT of downward force, but very little upward force
you can hold their jaw shut and tape it if you want
the biggest one I've personally seen is about 6-7 feet long
not so fearsome...
there are feral pigs near where I live...they are GROSS!!!!!
a gazillion fleas and bugs flyin 'round 'em
shit smeared all over their back side
and as a God Fearin Christian, I must say they ARE DELICIOUS
especially on the B-B-Q...yee-ha ya'll!!!!
yeeeee-haaaaa
time fer som Earl Scruggs Foggy Mountain Breakdown!!!!!
http://youtu.be/z_Y3mnj-8lA
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If oil prices to the west can be lowered by the Saudi's, etc then Russia will struggle more
economically.
That's an excellent point. The USA can do 1000 things to lower the global cost of energy.
Open the pipelines (XL pipeline). Open the drilling in Alaska and everywhere else in the
USA. Set up facilities to ship LNG to the EU and elsewhere.
All those things will cause the prices of carbon energy to plummet. It will cause inflation
to drop, but the problem is that it will all take time. People are being ground into hamburger
by this war as we speak. Doing all those things are great but I don't want to wait for 5 years
for the war to end (millions more will die).
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one of the ways we could lower the cost of carbon energy is by using less of it...
Supply/Demand
but..
you would not only LOWER the volume of oil traded
you would also LOWER it's price
and that's gonna REALLY eat into the profits and bonus checks when ya got all that fixed overhead to cover
OTOH...
the people who consume oil, would get it for less
but the people who sell oil will sell less of it, and sell it for less of a price
and make MUCH less profit
every $ of energy produced by renewables, is $1 less of the Fossil Fuel Industry
which would be just fine, if it was just one team vrs another
but it TOTALLY ignores global warming
for example, by the end of the next decade, Tangier Island, Virginia will be completely under water
and the people, who have lived there since the late 17th century, will become climate refugees, some already are
all along the Virginia coast line, salt water encroachment will effect small coastal family farms that've been there for generations
don't even consider what happens to these people
and that's just Virginia
on top of $250 billion fires and $100 billion Hurricaines
nor the fact that malaria and leprousy have had several cases in Southern Florida
in Texas you have West Nile
the warmer, the more pathogens move in
yeah...
let's not think about THAT
becuz the ONLY thing that is being THOUGHT ABOUT
is the bottom line of the oil giants
now, if your paycheck depended on it
are you willing to lie or do harm to the public
to continue getting paid?
think 1950s Cigarette Advertisers
is yur defense the same as the guards in a Koncentration Lager
you got a family to feed...ignoring the living skeletons in the background...
better ya tell me...than it is to St Peter...
if I were he...
what would yur words be to me?
well...ya see St Peter...
I put money before all else...becuz...I...uh...
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Well Putler seems to be hoping that Trump will move to do a deal with him over Ukraine:
http://www.euronews.com/2025/01/25/putin-calls-for-a-meeting-with-trump-calling-him-clever-and-pragmatic
Trump has yet to respond, if he ever does.
Looks like Putler is kissing Trumps ass and angling at his America First approach to try and gain leverage and something useful to to him - likely sanctions being dropped by the looks of it. Putler is trying to make it look like Ukraine don't want to do a deal as an excuse for the US to drop sanctions.
Will Trump go for it?
Or will he decide it's not worth the bother and stand on the sidelines not supporting Ukraine with any more finance but also not supporting Russia by dropping sanctions or punting forth a peace deal to Ukraine.
Could go either way but possibly Trump isn't so bothered with doing a deal with Putler now. He potentially only has to wait a few months until major economic turmoil hits Russia and it's military at the front in Ukraine gets badly run down so much that it can no longer advance anywhere.
It is looking doubtful that Russia will ever take Pokrovsk, we're through most of Winter now and Russia seem unable to do a Bakhmut this time by leveling the city. Their artillery is running low and apparently they are sending men on crutches into battle as their manpower advantage starts to dwindle.
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Trench you are always predicting the deterioration of Russian military and Russian economy.
I think you are wrong on both counts.
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Trench you are always predicting the deterioration of Russian military and Russian economy.
I think you are wrong on both counts.
You need to read the papers more ML ;)
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-artillery-ammo-usage-practically-halved-oleksandr-syrskyi-depots-facilities-2025-1
I doubt it's going to take long at this rate for both the Russian economy & military to come undone. Ukraine is hitting Russia hard now and Russia has exhausted itself militarily and economically in its war in Ukraine. Ukraine's Commander in Chief is skilled and experienced and knows when and where to hit them. The war is tilting in Ukraine's favour and hitting the now exhausted Russians is going to hurt than bad. How much longer can Russian troops go on at the front until they lose all decent Armaments to attack Ukrainian forces with?
Russia's economy is in an equally bad way, with both inflation and interest rates high, both will take a terrible toll on the Russian economy. Russia has been spending out on the war with all its got and won't have much left.
Disagree if you like ML, but Russia is going to succumb both economically and militarily IF Ukraine holds on. A few more months and Russia will be in a very bad way that will be easy to tell by anyone in the West.
I am relishing the day when Russia busts up under the strain of it all! Not long now!
Russia is getting troops and stuff in from North Korea to help but the quantities are not large enough, North Korea is only a small country and the quality is poor of troops and Armaments. North Korea is up for disarmament and embarrassment in Ukraine also. They won't last long there and are only showing themselves as weak.
If Ukraine stays the course Victory is within its grasp.
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The one newspaper you referenced said:
"Ukraine's military chief says Russia has 'practically halved' artillery ammo usage after its production lines and depots were hit."
That doesn't qualify as reliable news source.
A Russian military guy is probably saying the same thing about Ukraine.
Russia is hitting Ukraine much harder (missiles, drones, artilliary, etc.) than Ukraine is hitting Russia. And Russian hits are all over the area of Ukraine.
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The one newspaper you referenced said:
"Ukraine's military chief says Russia has 'practically halved' artillery ammo usage after its production lines and depots were hit."
That doesn't qualify as reliable news source.
A Russian military guy is probably saying the same thing about Ukraine.
Russia is hitting Ukraine much harder (missiles, drones, artilliary, etc.) than Ukraine is hitting Russia. And Russian hits are all over the area of Ukraine.
Those hits in Russia are going to have an effect. There's even video footage of the hits. That Ukrainian military chief has little reason to lie, when Russia was hitting Ukraine with 5 times the artillery shells that Ukraine was hitting Russia with they told it as is. A month or so ago Russia was reporting hitting Ukraine 1.5 times the artillery shells Ukraine was hitting Russian forces with, that's down a lot. Now that Artillery shell storage and production have been hit Russian is probably on similar shell firing to Ukraine if not a bit less.
The main bonus for Ukraine is that they have received a lot of Artillery and similar from the West with longer firing range, so they can take out Russian Artillery a lot more than Russia can take out theirs. Russia also has been recieving sub standard Artillery shells from North Korea and over firing it's Artillery pieces causing them to blow up destroying their own Artillery and crew.
Apparently at the moment Russia has lost 22,000 Artillery pieces in Ukraine, it's Soviet stockpiles are probably near out by now. Russia's sacrificed a lot of its Armaments and men to try to overwhelm and bully Ukraine into submission by throwing everything against them to try to get a breakthrough, instead they have exhausted themselves with this poor tactic.
Russia is hitting Ukraine hard with, missiles, drones, etc but many are taken out by defences, some get through and cause damage but Ukraine has limited weapon production capacity and most stuff comes from abroad. Most will be distributed fairly quickly and probably stored in smaller quantities and moved on quickly. In general Russia is again expending their energy throwing alm they've got at Ukraine and exhausting themselves producing and using up alm that stuff. At some point Russia is going to have next to nothing to throw at Ukraine. I would say that turning point is starting to happen now. The faster Russia uses up it's military resources to try and bully Ukraine into submission the faster that will happen. When it comes about probably in about 2-3 months or so if that then it will be apparent to all that Russia can no longer win the war in Ukraine and is out of ability to wage war in Ukraine. It will end up on the defensive out of practically all offensive and advancing ability and will just be sat their increasingly demoralised with troops and commanders fed up and wanting to pack it all in.
Russia is definitely not the force it started the war as and has been humbled into being a shadow of its former military might.
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under current conditions...russia has failed to take any significant amount of new Ukrainian territory in the last YEAR!!!
and the worst part about this is the fact that now Ukraine has laid massive mine fields and prepared "defense in depth"
that makes it certain that every future Russian attempt will end with the same frustrating failure
and...I say, and...
Putin HAS NOT restored the flow of water to The Crimean Canal System...
the conflict is now "frozen" figuratively and literally
whatever Russian assets that are dumped into the war doesn't add new territory
it just "holds the line"
talk about a "money pit"
internally, the war keeps the war factories runnin and the sanctions circumventors busy...
but everything else is figuratively and literally falling apart
Russia is eating itself to survive, the snake devouring it's own tail
all the indicators in the Russian Economy are blinking RED
in those conditions, the probability of an "economic catastrophe" happening are increasing
back in the early 80s, the Maryland State Prison System together with the University of Maryland paid me $3 per hour to write a Fortran program that number crunched the data to predict when prison riots would occur
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastrophe_theory
now I do it in a spreadsheet cuz it's visual
and I can create programs to crunch the numbers just like before
difference is that with 40+ years more experience
I can actually write code better than I can talk to humans
my programs are poems...sonnets to Dr Knuth's Elegant Algorythms
I got Algorythm
who could ask fer anything more...
Putin's choice:
contineue the slaughter, but be willing to do it longer than ukraine (and try to cut-off Ukraine's weapons and money to tilt the game to his favor)
or look for an off-ramp to Nosanctionsville
or WMDs
can trump unilaterally remove russian sanctions - or does he need congress?
I thougt Yalta 2.0 would've been announced already...what's the holdup?
German cars are money pits, Trench
if ya'll were still in the EU, you coulda got cheaper parts...but...
any real Englishman would only drive a Triumph SpitFire in racing green (be still my foolish heart!)
a Triumph is "The mouse who roared"
then i'd pair it with an Italian Motorcycle - The Moto Guzzi 850 v-twin, shaft drive - painted matching racing green
I tried putting a sidecar on mine, but it pulled to the right, making it uncomfortable to ride, so I took it off
very comfortable, smooth runnin, sounding bike, great for long distance rides
rest of bikes were Yamahas
european elegance, vrs japanese functionality
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Russian war economy is probably having the same effect as did the USA war economy during WWII.
And yes, there was a shortage of man power for USA factories which was taken up by woman power. Same thing likely happening in Russia.
Overall, a lot of industrial capacity is being built up in Russia, same as happened in USA during WWII.
Lest anyone forget . . . I am pro Ukrainian to the 9th degree. But I don't want to let myself be fooled by untruthful proclamations about how terrible things are going for Russia.
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oh NO!!!
things REALLY are terrible in the Russian economy!
at the war's current "burn rate" another year will see food rationing and frozen bank accounts in Russia
OTOH, Putin has never been closer to victory than he is RIGHT NOW
he's aleady half-way to cuttin Ukraine's military and economic supply lines from the USA/Europe...
and as the fossil fool industry roars back to life...
there's ole Pooty Poot sittin there on oceans of oil he's like to ship through the arctic to Europa
it just...
all wants to happen this way
next, Russians will start makin a list of politicians who are draggin their feet on sanctions
hint: look at Magninski Act Sponsors
PS
I'm thinking of "switching sides" from the middle class proletariat to AI/Human Pairs
having something like DeepSeek plugged into Apple's VR Headset
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GmEIqi0yNE
my belief is that people who are schitzophrenic and experience auditory "hallucinations" will more readily adapt
to a VR AI Agent that's always "ON"
I can talk to the AI and listen to it speak in a high quality Text To Speech Voice
everything I saw in star trek when I was 12, I now have
including a PHASOR!!!!
actually a 150 watt laser diode!!!!
the first AGI machines will cost in the tens of billions $$ to hundreds of billion $$$
these are to train and host the model
some will have their own small modular nuclear reactors for power
whoever owns and controls it
besides making a LOT of money from it
will also become one of the most powerful people in the world
and they will have "special access" that no one else has
in a couple of years, I should be able to host a chatGPT4 level model on my own hardware
and interact act with it through speech and vision
note: I got 50 mile range out of a used marine radar for yachts I bought from ebay
for the price of a PC
I added an LNA front-end and a much better, much lighter/efficient antenna
what's cool, is these radars are NOT narrow spectrum, like you'd expect
they're sread spectrum, frequency hopping, so a bunch of boats won't "jam," each other
also means Russians can't hear my signal
for the price of a PC..not bad
defend yur oblast
from drone blasts!
or fly at half mast
freedom scribbled on a Pripyat wall
it's like nigh-t and day
http://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fmural-in-the-post-office-prypiat-v0-6nf3pd9k41fc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D5c0ba06feca6bf04f488f87d2313201bdb83470b
the only difference between Chernobil and any big city in Russia
is that they differ only by "some degree" and not that they're opposites
and over time, the smaller the difference becomes
until This Town is Coming Like a Ghost Town
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I think the biggest bonus for the West is Ukraine's disarmament of the Russian military. Sounds terrible and I don't wish it on Ukrainian men and I had no sway it the matter, but it remains the case though that Ukrainian men risking their lives fighting the Russians is really saving Western men from risking their lives fighting the Russians. Once the Russian Army is out of its stockpiles and can't produce more very quickly and has run out of money to produce more and wage war they will be gone as a threat for a long time, if Russia breaks up then they may be gone as a threat permanently and the world will likely be a more peaceful, safer place. No need for big rearmament programs, etc.
Ukraine I feel is nearing the tipping point where they will likely start to see Russia's offensive ability in its Armaments decline at the front. Once that happens it should get easier and easier for Ukraine to sit tight, hold on and wait it out until Russia falls apart. That will be a great armchair event to see from home with Russia no longer a big player in the world or able to influence world events. No more bullying from Russia with their now puny army, no more swaggering around the world stage being courted by other world leaders, and no more troops on the ground elsewhere in the world. It looks like before long we could see a lot different picture happening out in Russia. Whatever happens Russia's economy is already screwed, it's back at a post Soviet 90s situation, all that improvement over the years largely gone. Pretty much all indicators of the Russian economy from interest rates through to inflation, to currency reserves, to debt, deficit and taxes, etc, etc are bad. Russia's economy is heading into a tail spin it won't be able to get out of for years whatever happens now. Russia or whatever it ends up as will be a miserable, depressed country. For Russia whatever the outcome in Ukraine, even if they get the destroyed land they occupy they are pretty much done for thank goodness.
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yesterday...was the 80th anniv of the Soviet Liberation of Auschwitz
The Great Patriotic War, is the bedrock of Russian kultura and identity since 1940s
instead of it being sacred, Putin hijacks it
and Putin uses it as a tool to manipulate and control the masses
so he calls his Ukrainian enemies a slur...a "fascista"
and let's the manufactured hate overrule reason
control what information people have access to
and you control how they think
repeat a lie...yada yada
similar minds have similar thoughts...n'est pas?
learn how to be FUNNY
also learn how to be kind and empathetic (instead of angry and bitter)
then increase yur level of random contact with wimmins
fer instance... learn to make souvlaki from honey (that he steals from poor insects)
and endup being halfway up the intimacy chart, instead of being none of the way (giving a woman food you made)
with some "enviornmentalist chick" or "nature girl"
sometimes, it's better to try and get what ya want "indirectly" instead of "directly"
delayed gratification and "what not"
but this implies that you're willin to do TWO THINGS
1. use yur head to make a plan
2. take action
if yur failin and flailing, it's becuz yur not doin these two things
and this is on top of bein able to figure out how to extract a fair amount of money from some "bizness"
and not be workin fer some other fool
if you have this...you be "stylin"' bro...
TV antenna in the back...against the White Walls stylin...
word!
Russians can't tell the difference between transistor and trans sister
so if ya hold up an ole magnavox portable AM radio from the 70s
and say "It has Eight transistors"
the Russian will say, "I have a brother"
now c'mon all ya big strong men
comrade putin got himself in a jam
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Looks like Ukraine may be able to stop the Russian Army at Pokrovsk
http://euromaidanpress.com/2025/01/24/frontline-report-breaking-russian-lines-tactical-victory-at-kotlyne/
My guess is hear from reports is that Russia may now lack the firepower to destroy and take Pokrovsk. The Russian Army seems to be starting to get into pretty bad shape now as they are forcing soldiers on crutches to fight, are relying on North Korean Armaments and are much down on Artillery and Tanks. It has been reported in some sectors that Ukrainian Tanks may outnumber Russian Tanks.
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Well Trump & Putler are finally doing the discussion thing. The fear here has been as Krim has so often pointed out that it may end as a stitch up for Ukraine:
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/02/01/trump-says-white-house-had-serious-discussions-with-russia-about-ukraine-war
I am hoping either that isn't the case or the EU/UK etc will stay firm in their commitment to Ukraine and go against any Trump/Putler stitch up.
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And an interesting Trump story here...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/01/31/hedge-funds-bet-billions-against-trumps-america/
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I don't have a good feeling about it. I think Trump will make Zelensky do whatever Putin wants
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and Putin will pay Trump to do what Putin wants...
Reality Politik
Trump's Rosneft Stock will be kept in a box next to the Top Secret documents
with the documentation for Trump Towers Cirty Center Moscva
I for one, am happy, that the Trump admin has eliminated those price caps on pharma companies
so that a few pharma executives don't get bullied by millions of poor seniors
and IN ADDITION, Trump voters are FINALLY gonna learn WHO ACTUALLY pays tarriffs
i.e Trump Voters
well gol-ly Mr Oilagarch, yessuh, I be happy to pay yur share of the tax cuts with tarriffs, yes sur
if'n you get rid of racial quotas, so dumb white boyz like me can find a job more easily
thank you suh....
Trump's elimination of DEI will completely change the social contract in America
we will cut welfare and racial and other identity entitlements
it will weaken the cohesion of the democratic party
becuz they depend on these groups that are effected by DEI
so democrats will have to spend all their time focusd on gay people, etc
instead of labor's shrinking share of the economy
or the oligarchy's refusal to raise taxes on themselves to cut the deficit caused by cutting their taxes
and instead search for ways to transfer the cost to the poor and middle class through tarriffs and mass layoffs and inflation
IMHO, we should toss out this old culture war identity politics system
and go to a class based one
and have a a Labor Party in America, that doesn't care about yur orientation
cuz a gay white worker and a straight black worker have more in common than either of them has with any oligarch of any color
and make it all about the economy and how it's being hijacked by oligarchs along with the politics
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in Russia, mafiya becomes oligarchy
in America, oligarchy becomes mafiya
either way, a bunch of rich criminals are gonna do a reverse "Robin Hood" for "the good of the country"
it's purely an accident, that the rich have been getting richer, while the poor have been getting poorer, or is IT?
it's not "a bug", if it was a planned feature, all along...
on tarriffs
it's gonna be really hard, to lie to people, and tell them the average $800 cost per yr/family is a good thing, that's why oligarchs control most of the media, so they can lie this way
but everything the oligarch media tells you is either a lie, a sales pitch for crypto trading cards, or useless BS
Tune In
Turn On
Drop Out
what idjuts don't realize...
is that when the pendulum swings back the other way next election
we're all gonna be wearin CCCP Pioneer shirts and ties
which I'm totally chill with, cuz I totally dig the Soviet Retro Look and style from back in the day, when I used to listen to the English broadcasts of Radio Moscow
za mir robotniki....
instead groups of robotniki are fightin with other group of neighboring robotniki
becuz politicians use the robotniki as pawns to be sacrificed in their quest for more money and power
war is a big business with a lot of money to be made, but mainly by people on top of the Pyramid and not those buried underneath it
fer instance, Hamas's leadership were all Billionaires$
and to fullfill what Iran paid this money to the leadership to do, got 50,000 Gazans killed
same deal in Russia....
Russian oligarchy wants to steal Ukraine and carve it up for themselves
but has gotten 850,000 Russian casualties
having a government that acts for the interests of the top few
always does so at the cost to the people below
and I think the majority of the American people, will finally understand this a few years from now
but they will have to learn the hard and painful way
With US aid to Ukraine winding down, and considering that the Trump Administration’s Talking Points are coming straight from Moscow
it's clear that Trump is Putin's Seller's Agent, and not Zelensky's Buyer's Agent
cuz Trump's commission comes from Putin
Trump and Putin have already worked out the deal by phone, and it's not good for Ukraine
nor is it all that good for the 850,000 KIA/WIA Russians
but it's good for Putin
and eventually will be good for 100 Russian oligarchs who divide it all up and give some to "poppa" and launder some of the proceeds in New York Real Estate
all my gear just arrived from Asia 1 day before start of sanctions!!!!!
so i'm gonna be "pre-occupied"
PS
while projecting on the astral plane, I ended up in the Kremlin
and accidentally intercepts Putin's plan for Ukraine
and overheard EVERYTHING
Putin wants to have a national election in Ukraine, and use it to force out Zelensky
he wants Trump to make this a requirement
Putin and Trump want to turn the clock back to 2014 with Yanukovich
and have Ukraine join the CIS instead of the EU
and Exxon Mobil will be drillin like it was supposed to be back in 2017 with Rex Tillerson
the election will also legalize the transfer of ukrainian land to Russia by a voter referendum
this is to clinch the "NO SANCTIONS"
and of course, the election will be interfered with
just like it was here in 2016, what Trump calls "The Russian Hoax"
whereby Oleg Deripaska bribed the FBI's head Russian cyberwar expert
to force the FBI to release publicly about a bogus investigation before the election
about Hillaery's emails stolen by a Russian hackers
political engineering like this is Putin's forte, the only thing he has actual skill in, he sucks at EVERYTHING else!
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Putin doesn't want PEACE
he wants Ukraine
not just a piece of Ukraine, he wants all of it
and he's going to bribe Trump to give it to him, in fact, bribing Trump is the ONLY way Putin can win in Ukraine
Putin's plan is to force Ukraine to have a fraudulent election, that Putin will rig
that replaces Zelensky with a Russian puppet like Yanukovich
who will make Ukraine a puppet state like Belerus
then Russian oligarchs will divide up Ukraine
it takes Ukraine back to 2014, before Maidan
this is what Trump voters voted for, you should be happy
that thanks to Donald Trump
all those who died in Ukraine for freedom
died for nothin...
while Trump will get billions just out of that deal
with plenty more deals to be made
and none of ya care at all
this is why I call you mean names and hurt yur fee fees
becuz you don't care what happens to these people
yur not yur brother's keeper
so ya let a bully throw him under the bus
soon, you will all learn, what a cruel bitch KARMA is
when the same emboldened bullies come for you to
you can castigate me for my behavior on this board
but what of your own indifference to all that's goin on around you
which of us is more "moral"
sticking yur head in the sand, and ignoring reality
or to express with words of anger against the evil in the world
let the judges themselves all be judged by the plaintiffs pleas
for no judge will ever judge himself
PS
if I were Zelensky, I'd tell Putin what the commander of the US Army at Bastogne told the Nazis, when told to surrender
"NUTS"
and not phuquing worry about the consequences of taking the fight to Russia
if any body in Ukraine would like my white paper on sabtotaging the large High Voltage power transformers at generating plants (not the little sub-station or power-line ones)
these gigantic transformers take years to replace
if you know where to look, you can find the location of each one in Russia
and my paper will show ya how to bring that puppy down
and the single factory in Russia that makes them
the backlog in the USA is 3 years for new ones
it only takes a crew of about 5 SBU Soldat to take one down
you need to step up yur recruitment of foreigners, especially "technicals"
instead of putting obstacles. you need to provide assistance
you're missing out on a lot of highly specialized talent that you need
you need to learn to fight "differently"
look at what Mossad did with Pagers to Hezbollah
they took out half of Hezbollah with the same amount of explosive as just two artillery shells
Russia has so many, many different ways to do the same
like yur already doin with fuel depots
I'll show ya the EXACT spot to shoot an RPG-7 at the big High Voltage transformer that are directly fed by a power plant
where it'll spray oil and short blowing up the whole thing spraying liquid copper all over the place
this will generally shut down power that might be partially rerouted
so, if you did a cluster, all at the same time...
or, if you did a deep analysis, you might be able to trigger a chain reaction of plants shutting down, as an added bonus
take the war to Putin and do so using minimal resources
asymetrical is not hypothetical
if Ukraine can continue the war another year, and with ALL SANCTIONS STILL IN PLACE
the Russian economy will start rartioning meat and eggs and freeze all bank accounts over a certain threshold, and 1,000,000+ KIA/WIA
the misery index in Russia, will be at it's highest level since 1945
and the only path you have to victory, is to raise this number SKY HIGH!
for Russians to force Putin to just end the war on ANY terms
the sacrifice of the Ukraine people, no matter how great, will not have been in vain, IF YOU WIN!
just sayin...
I know, easy for me to say, moy jhoppa aint't on the line (YET, but I expect it to be...and as a geezer, I got no problems with dyin this way)
liberty!
equality!
brotherhood!
the banners will be unfurled before Trump's Fox News tin soldiers
you know that day's a comin...right?
I can already hear the shots ringin out and the screams
naaaaaaahhh....it's probably the drugs have messed me up and I'm seein things....yeah...thats's what it is....
PS2
if ya'll ain't figured it out...
the same people who put Trump in power, are the same people who are now short sellin the markets
the bets are so huge, brokers will have to scramble, if they're the ones who lose the bets
illiquid brokers will cause the market to fall
and will effect the banks that loan them money the banks get from the Federal Reserve
Trump and Musk have played ya'll almost as much as Trump and Putin have
and they're just getting started
and STILL...ya'll don't understand how phuqued-up this is
cuz we're alla about ...should I write one or many....read the TOS...can't say that here...
so I can't get NO Satisfaction
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and none of ya care at all
this is why I call you mean names and hurt yur fee fees
becuz you don't care what happens to these people
yur not yur brother's keeper
so ya let a bully throw him under the bus
soon, you will all learn, what a cruel bitch KARMA is
when the same emboldened bullies come for you to
you can castigate me for my behavior on this board
but what of your own indifference to all that's goin on around you
which of us is more "moral"
sticking yur head in the sand, and ignoring reality
or to express with words of anger against the evil in the world
...
and STILL...ya'll don't understand how phuqued-up this iscuz we're alla about ...should I write one or many....read the TOS...can't say that here...
so I can't get NO Satisfaction
Accusations/rants directed at no one in particular and seemingly anyone but yourself is nothing more than a troll post. On the off-chance that you have some meaningful point you care to make, drop the use of the colloquial "you" and present your position sans baiting and self-aggrandizement. And yes, insure any messages posted are on-topic for this site, lest they are candidates for removal.
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Well the war in Ukraine hasn't worked out well for this for chap:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9w5nyz71x7o
This poor young Brit guy lost his left arm and left leg whilst working as a Medic near the front just a few days ago. He had been serving in Ukraine did two years as a Medic after going there as a potential Rambo.
Anyway he backed out of being a Rambo when the risks looked too great and I guess thought a Medic would be a less risky role but with much the same hero status :-\
My guess is that apart from possible excitement it looks like he may have decided to go out there to land himself a Ukrainian woman as part of this escapade. Looks like he got one who already had a daughter (child) possibly as he mentions god-daughter of possibly the woman he got with is without children since he mentions he has family out there.
Now of course he is upbeat for the news reporter it doesn't help him not to be. I wonder though what the odds are of the Ukrainian woman he is with that she will stick with him? I don't reckon they are too high and she'll probably stick him on the first flight back to blighty for his own good lol. I can't see any other Ukrainian woman getting with him now that he has lost both an arm and a leg either.
Disability benefit might be one advantage he might have that Ukrainian men sing have access too. Even for that though it looks like they have cut back on a lot of it and he may struggle to get it as PIP (Personal Independence Allowance) is now replacing it and potentially they might say with bionic or whatever else fitted along with his good writing arm and leg still being in place that he can do everything without requiring extra help, so he doesn't qualify for PIP payment either. In fact he was silly to state for a national broadcaster that his right arm is his good writing arm lol :cluebat:
Anyhow, the main take away point here is that he went off to play the risky game of hero to impress a FSW when all of that was unnecessary. An unnecessary risk that he didn't need to take but didn't realise I assume that he didn't need to take it. He could have gotten a Ukrainian Woman without all of that carry on just by meeting and dating them as a civilian lol. The woman would think no less of him if she was really into him so the extra risk he took was pointless.
I recall a couple of years or so ago on this thread making the same point to CB who just didn't get it and I am sad to see doesn't come here anymore.
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Dear Admin,
indeed, you prevent me from saying, and then chastize me for not sayin...
'ave ya ever been to Hyde Park on a rare sunny Saturday?
I envoke the same manner of public speaking as these fine Gentleman and Ladies
the bully pulpit (soap box)
but the freedom expressed there is not allowed here
so my speech is more vague
and I TOTALLY expect this to be deleted or relegated to Rants
it don't matter....
I aint baitin NOBODY, and I ain't self aggrandizing
it ain't bragging, just stating what's probably gonna happen to me and a lot of other Americans in America's upcoming summer of violence and Crystal nacht for Mexicans
Deportation Kamp das is Mein Kampf, if someone is being oppressed, das ist mein bruder
free the children locked in cages
Fox News Host rages
shotguns fire, all 12 guages
that's MY rap
you call it crap
all in all
the admin on RWD, is just Another Brick In The Wall
the world will in the future learn...
that an army of geezers, who are NOT afraid to die, can stop a tyrant
whether in Ukraine or "some other place"
Trump sellin Ukraine out to Putin, is a total betrayal of everything decent and moral
and none of ya'll are thinkin about complaining about it here on RWD...
my question to ya'll is WTF?
and somehow, I'm "The Bad Guy"
really?
I see it quite differently, I see selfish people who are indifferent to the fate of those around them
who instead, could choose to make a difference
instead of blocking discussion
becuz the people who enabled this to happen, by voting for it, will get upset by my words if I speak out against it here
in other words, no matter how mcuh Trump's actions hurt the Ukrainian people
nor Trump's Deportation Camps, nor Trump's Tarriffs, nor how the sellout of Ukraine will hurt US, nor the takeover of our government by Elon Musk, nor the purge of FBI and Government Accounting Watch Dogs
NONE of that can be discussed here...
I can't talk about it here, cuz it will upset Trump Voters if I do
and since the majority of the Americans on this board are Trump Voters...
you don't wanna piss 'em off
and I think that about sums it up
and you consider this a moral decision, cuz it's in yur best interests not to piss off Trump Voters
did I miss anything...
we're afraid to upset muslims
and afraid to upset Trump Voters
for the same reason
but ya have no objection to nailin me to the cross
where I find myself in good company self aggrandizing with all the other Crucified
"hey look at me, I'm up here"
"I think I can see my house from up here"
ok...quick question...when yur up there on the cross, and ya gotta pee, do they let ya down for a break and then put ya back up again?
WHAT!!!!
yur kiddin me!!!!
JESUS CHRIST!!!
it may sound random, but I was just thinkin how Ecce Homo and Homo Erectus are the ideal fictional names for a gay bar on Castro Street in San Francisco!!!!
disclaimer: I took LSD in the 80s at the DNA Lounge with famous people whose names I'm not allowed to say, on Albert Hoffman's Birthday in San Fran
it was a freak's paradise, I was barely allowed inside, ya had to know someone, I was the least famous person there
OMG!! Halloween was always Amazing there...what's weird was that despite such a HUGE volume of freaks, it was always peaceful
no idea, what's it's like now...
back then, you were supposed to leave yur aluminum cans by the curb, so homeless street kids can easily see and collect them
I think they called these kids "tribes" cuz they all lived in some abandoned places as a group
they were low key hustlers, not dangerous, and didn't steal from within their own neighborhood
they did DO a LOT of DRUGS however
and that's how a lot of 'em picked up HIV and died from it
having sex in San Francisco required me to put on 2 condoms at one time, in case one was just not enuff for protection
but other than having Bubble Boy Sex with below average lookin wimiin....
and I went from that to Kiev in 1996
and there were freakin super models out on the street smiling at me
I mean, really, all ya gotta do isa just GO THERE
haven't ya ever gotten a stray cat to approach you for you to pet it
you can do the EXACT same thing there with the wimmin
and they will puuuurrrr for you
if you know WTF you're doin
addendum
Trump is a cult figurehead, and if you say anything bad about the cult leader, the cultists will get mad
same for Elon
so anybody making cultists mad, why that's inciting anti-ethnic hatred, you think I don't see through that, and what's REALLY behind it
Elon is gonna tear down the government
and everything the government did, the oligaarch are gonna do instead, by privitizing it to themselves...JUST LIKE THEY DID IN RUSSIA
but...can't talk about it....
what borscht is yur favorite? green or red?
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the silence of the board is shattering
http://youtu.be/hEwY5VM6olI
when the only tool you have is a hammer
every problem looks like a nail
when the only skill you have is to rig elections
then every problem you have is solved by rigging elections
Putin to Elon - make USAID go away, and you can own a pice of Nornickel for Tesla and yur Rockets after SANCTIONS are removed
Government Efficiency is a cover for what Elon's really doing
getting rid of everything that's pro-democratic
their goals and Putin's overlap 100%
the goal is to privitize the American government to the oligarchs like Elon and others who will join forces with Russian oligarchs
and the oligarchs skim off their cut
in economics, this is called "rent seeking behavior"
a subject ya'll have deliberatly been kept ignorant about
there's a reason why educationg slaves was illegal
it's the same reason Americans are ignorant about economics
anybody, ever put just a "dash" of paprika in their Borscht
you lnow with a name like Borshit, it's gotta be good!
freakin Russians....
I did a study on this a long, long, time ago
of how the most common letter pairs, tend to end up in swear words
"sh" would be an example in English
but in Russian, it would be different glyphs
I never checked to see if it correlated...to much work...back in the pre-internet period
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Donald says USA should get right to mine rare earth minerals in Ukraine as payment for equipment USA sends to Ukraine.
So Ukraine has said OK . . . go to it in Donbass.
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Civilized nations have not recognized Russia's right to Crimea.
So Ukraine is to give USA right to build and operate military bases in Crimea to protect shipments of rare earth minerals.
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mineral resource map of Ukraine...
the time has come...
to talk of...
rare earths, and windmills,
and sharks and batteries,
Haitian Pet Eaters,
Greenland and Panama,
Gaza real estate,
USA soverign crypto fund, after crypto deregulation
purge of all American Russian-counter intelligence officers from Intelligence agencies and governemnt watchdogs
tarriffs paid by poor and middle class to offset tax cuts to the rich
and how Trump was persecuted by the Deep State for trying to help poor Americans
you picked THIS!!
you're responsible!!
WTF are you gonna do aboit it NOW?
do you even recognize that YOU and every other American has a VERY big problem right now?
please...do enlighten the board with your quaint rustic hillbilly discourse regarding the enlightened despotism of the grifter-in-chief who you helped put in power
I eagerly await yur words...
PS
everybody wants Ukraine's Scandium comin from Dnipro
you can't build the next generation of micro-nukes without scandium polynitride
and it's pretty rare
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So has Trump been swayed into supporting Ukraine against Russia with a deal on minerals for weapons?
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/04/trump-wants-rare-earth-resources-from-ukraine-in-exchange-for-aid
Just shortly prior to this Trump & Putler were pushing for Elections in Ukraine but Ukraine wasn't falling for it and would have none of it. Putler of course rigs his Elections anyway so can hardly call out Ukraine in being undemocratic. Ukraine's constitution meanwhile states that no elections can be called under a state of emergency such as war time so Zelensky as it stands doesn't have a choice anyway if in fact he even wanted to which he doesn't fearing Russian interference. Putler would probably insist on the Russian controlled Donbas region voting and likely it would be a stitch up to replace Zelensky and he would probably end up being knocked off afterwards. So Zelensky sees this and isn't taking the bait and being a fool by going along with it. So with that avenue now shut off is Trump instead willing to swing behind Zelensky and continue military aid in exchange for mineral rights? Putler is now facing defeat in Ukraine through a shortage of Armaments and a failing economy so Trump's "friend" may be an easy victim now:
http://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-freak-out-us-russia-push-election/
The Gaza thing I can see that area could be very lucrative as the area by the sea is a potential paradise minus Muslim nutters. So potentially an area where Trump could gain for corporate America to invest and do well. Not sure but I think I heard there might be oil there also. I think in fairness it would end the hostilities that go around in periodic cycles there with Israel. Population transfer at the end of WWII with Poland sending Germans across the Oder river border into current day Germany seems to have gotten rid of the hostilities there and no real problems there now. I'm surprised you are not in favour of Gazans being pushed out of Gaza Krim, being Jewish and having been in the military there I thought you might have supported Israel with this?
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no...
I don't like it when vultures eat the dead (even the enemy), I always chase them away with rocks
Trump and Kushner are vultures looking for a meal
they have no more business deciding the fate of Palestinians, for their own enrichment
than Putin does deciding the fate of Ukrainians for his
Trump has signaled that there's a 90 day negotiating window beginning from when he took office
Zelensky will not do the election for Putin
and he has enuff to fight with maximum intensity during this period
if America completely suspends aid to Ukraine, Putin will try to coerce europeans into doing the same
even without a truce
if Zelensky nixes the election, and continues the war without America's help
and Putin can't get europeans to back down
only THEN will Putin consider a truce
providing he keeps all ocuupied lands and all sanctions are ended
Trump is doing everything to help Putin
the way Biden did to help Zelensky
they are as opposite as good and evil
and look who ya'll voted for
the devil tempted you
and you took the devil's bait
and now he's got his hook in you
how sad....
too bad that I'm not English, or I might feel sorry for the predicament yur in
but I'm a Texas Jew Boy who's spent the night alone in Auschwitz-Birkenau so I could find the exact right spot at the exact right time on the remains of a numbered female barracks concrete pad
for the purpose of performing a Kabbalah ritual
so I'm not really all that sympathetic
to those who would cheer the trains that brought mein volk there
my bad...
in due time
my cup of schadenfreude will be overflowing
Cassandra gave an evil smile at those who mocked her
the same way I do to you
fait accompli
PS
here - gaze into my crystal ball....and see the calamity that you have brought upon yurself in yur efforts to own the "libtards"
http://www.crisesnotes.com/day-five-of-the-trump-musk-treasury-payments-crisis-of-2025-not-read-only-access-anymore/
vidish, moy malinky brat
no undertaker on earth will be able to pry that grin off of my face, they're just gonna have to show me that way
don't weep for me - Andromeda
I never really liked the Milky Way
now it seems all so crystal clear
that there's no intelligent life down here
and that's why EVERYONE wants AI
machines will do all the heavy lifting
so the furries can chase each other
this is de-evolution, not evolution
AI will stop human evolution
but because of $$$, AI is coming, no matter what
no army can stop it from coming
and once it's here
all the armies of man joined together won't be able to stop it
Terminator will be fiction
cuz the machines AIN'T gonna lose
ya'll are just too dumb to survive...
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Well there will be prime building plots to buy up in Gaza or LA now. Apparently it's going to take many years just to clear the rubble in Gaza and the people of Gaza won't be able to live in the rubble, so where to put them? 🤔
I think you are right with AI Krim, I can see future generations becoming too lazy by letting AI do too much too. At the moment AI is useful but more extensive deployment of AI and to a greater depth could end up making people lazy, over reliant and even subject themselves to it dominating their lives and that could end up their and societies undoing.
Well back to the present and it looks like Russia may now have reached the point where they have exhausted their Soviet stockpiles of Armaments, the stuff that was usable at least anyway:
http://kyivindependent.com/russia-facing-equipment-shortages-media-reported/
In theory they still have thousands of pieces left but it looks like all that is left is in such a bad state that it is unusable I guess due to too much rust, too many faulty components, etc. Probably the Russians had been using some of the pieces for components and fixing other pieces with these components, so thereby striping some pieces of components making them useless. Other pieces may have just been too far gone in deterioration probably.
Whatever the case it looks like Russia has used up it's useful Soviet stockpiles by the April 2025 date that some expected out there. Hence the turn to North Korea and getting in some more Armaments from them, though that looks like it will be limited supply, 120 pieces of Artillery was the last figure I heard banded around along with done other stuff and a few thousand troops. All of that looks like it won't last long on the battlefield and Russia will probably be in dire straits again in a few months time with it's weakness in Armaments supply exposed anc becoming apparent to all.
Here's hoping that Ukraine holds on and doesn't bother with any peace negotiations as it need not do so when a Ukrainian victory is just around the corner.
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The battle for Pokrovsk as we all know is key for both sides. The Russians have been slowly but steadily advancing but at great cost. Now though their advance has pretty much come to a halt and they now seem to be stuck where they are risking the short supply of armour they have left on desperate attempts to break through but to no avail:
http://euromaidanpress.com/2025/02/06/frontline-report-russian-armored-push-near-pokrovsk-ends-in-loss-of-9-vehicles-within-hours/
It looks as though Russia is now lacking the strength in armoured units to gather a large enough number and quality of armoured units together to be able to make an attempt on Ukrainian lines that is realistically able to succeed. That just leaves infantry and their use of infantry to make inroads seems to be hitting a wall also.
It looks like Russia knows that it lacks the strength in its army to take Pokrovsk head on like Bakhmut so has been trying to outflank. However it looks like Russia has now become bogged down and unable to outflank Ukrainian forces as they had hoped. Ukrainian forces look to be well entrenched around Pokrovsk and I don't see that Russian forces will make it any further there now than have done.
Russia apparently currently has much of their army strength built up to try and take Pokrovsk but it looks like that is no longer strong enough to take the city or it's surrounding region.
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the war's outcome will not be decided by what happens in Pokrovsk
it will be decided in a private closed door meeting
Elon Musk is now the Fourth Branch of the American Government, and is in complete control of the Treasury's payment system, I just can't wait to see "WTF HAPPENS WITH THAT!
at a minimum, Elon has TOTAL LEVERAGE over the American Government
and Trump sold him this privilige for almost $300 million
so, based on that figure, ya know Putin's gotta shovel $billions at Trump for "his deal"
the problem is, Putin is not accepting compromise
his goal is still, all of Ukraine
every move Putin makes is to enhance this goal
he will only accept a compromise when he can't gain anything by holding out
he can probably last this year, if Ukraine can still fight with only European support
and he'll be constantly trying to get european leaders to stop support for Ukraine
all in all, if the war continues another year, it'll be a close race, even without US support
but the Russian economy will look like Leningrad in 1942 with food and energy rationing
while Ukraine will be a nation of cold hungry old people and middle-aged men in trenches also with food and energy rationing
but these problems will become secondary to us here in the USA
cuz we're gonna have MUCH, MUCH bigger ones here
cuz obviously, the solution to the problem caused by pet eating Haitians, is to give the world's richest man, unsupervised control over the treasury
haha, take THAT!!! LIBTARDS!!!!
which is an excuse for me to "get down"
a one - two - gonna play some cool rap for you, muh bruthers
America has become a bad acid trip
it's too weird to be real
http://youtu.be/mc1W_Pys88U
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two things that I already know about the upcoming Ukrainian war dialogs with Trump
Trump and Putin will win Oscars for their roles in Reality TV Diplomacy
Trump's performance of apologizing for Democrats expanding NATO, which "caused the war"
Putin's performance praising Trump "The Peace Maker"
the public will never hear the details of the negotiation
becuase most of it relates DIRECTLY to Trump
should ANY Democrats get any "bad ideas"
Trump can call Elon and shut down the Treasury
Trump will replace the deep state with Elon's shadow government of young Nazi enthusiasts
one of Elon's goals is to integrate his $billion AI project with operating the federal government
this is why Trump said, "you'll never have to vote again"
becuz Elon's AI will eliminate it
Heil Musk!
http://x.com/i/status/1887878996232224793
America's bloated Plutocrats want to take the wealth and the hard-earned money of working class people across the country...they want to take that money and REDISTRIBUTE it to themselves, to their companies, and to their billionaire friends through tax cuts paid for by cutting the poor and middle class concealed in a cloud of lies
you voted for this so that trans athletes would't dominate female sports that you care so much about, after 1,000 hours of TV on Fox and Friends
i'd call you all idiots
but that would cause idiots to feel insulted, cuz idiots aren't ANYWHERE nearly as dumb as ya'll
even idiots KNOW when they're being played
you don't
you thought Trump was serious about all the BS?
that's him, pushing yur buttons
the fact that a total idiot like Trump. played YOU ALL so freaking perfectly
is your badge of shame
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Extra! Extra! read all about it
Lord Chamberlain meets with Adolphus
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/10/trump-envoy-pauses-ukraine-peace-plan-talks-nato-allies/
this is what Putin is payin Trump for
to get Europeans to scale back the weapons for Putin
us serfs will hear the PUBLIC details next week
Bolshoi Conflickte
if Russian gas starts flowing to Europe again, what does that do to US LNG?
this is part of the PRIVATE details known only to Putin and Trump
Trump is so close, can already smell the Rosneft stock (fresh russian ink has a unique smell, like money)
if I were Trump I'd go to Moscva dressed as Liberache and play the Piano with Putin doing the vocals to "Blueberry Hill"
and toss 10,000 ruble notes off the stage to people who won't be conscripted and sent to Ukraine
probability of H5N1 is rising....
WTF is it with Trump and viruses ohhh and now RFK Jr
ruh-oh!!!
the price of eggs is a proxy metric for the rate of bird flu in avians
multiply that by inter-species "cross-over"
might become deja vu all over again
the smartest thing Republicans coulda done was to keep 'ole sleepy Joe
cuz instead Democrats NOW understand, that they need a Dark Beast, someone worst than Trump to beat Trump
someone who could take Elon Musk and roll him into a little ball and flick him like a nose booger
someone unknown, and completely out of "left field"
according to the prophets
the anti-christ must face someone with the title of "Christ"
and the Christ will ask each of us, "who do you say that I am"
and that answer will detrmine the fate of the world
christians ain't the only ones waitin on a messiah
and turns us into the Union of Soviet Socialist America (USSA)
and all young people dress as pioneers, regardless of sex, race, sexual preferance, social class, all the animals are EQUAL, before GOD as well as man
there are no oligarchs
only workers and citizens
Trump phuqueing everything up in the next couple of years, is a guarantee that we'll have socialism after him, when the pendulum swings FAR LEFT
thanks MAGA (eventually)
all for all, instead of all for one
once everyone understands that....
then the rest is freakin easy
I actually know WHO the messiah is, but, it's one of the things I'm not allowed to EVER discuss
I'm just someone who KNOWS
and tries to do his job the best he can under the circumstances he faces
so ya'll should cut me some slack
cuz my domain is just a little tiny piece of the "Big Picture"...ok, and I'm doin the best I can...
PS
instead of the "Space Race" with the Soviet Union, it's now the AI race with the Chinese
to see who gets to the Moon first, also known as Artifical General Intelligence, and China just did a DeepSeek Sputnik
soon, it's gonna be the AI Age
where so many painful things are gonna happen
they ain't gonna be "machines of loving grace" oh no my friends, they ain't gonna be THAT
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Extra! Extra! read all about it
Lord Chamberlain meets with Adolphus
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/10/trump-envoy-pauses-ukraine-peace-plan-talks-nato-allies/
this is what Putin is payin Trump for
to get Europeans to scale back the weapons for Putin
us serfs will hear the PUBLIC details next week
Bolshoi Conflickte
if Russian gas starts flowing to Europe again, what does that do to US LNG?
this is part of the PRIVATE details known only to Putin and Trump
Trump is so close, can already smell the Rosneft stock (fresh russian ink has a unique smell, like money)
Yes I noticed the article. Looks like an attempt by Trump and Putler to try and coerse the EU unfortunately. If the EU goes to the conference Trump & Putler will likely punt forward the peace proposal they have hammered out between them (yes possibly already pre-decided) to the EU then Trump tries to twist the EU's arm into accepting the proposal. Trump will probably do this by agreeing not to level tarriffs on the EU if they agree and citing that it will give to peace to Ukraine. Of course if the EU is agreeable then Zelensky will know that Ukraine might not get any more help from the EU unless he agrees to it also.
I agree I can see the Trump & Putler pantomime going on with phoney posturing and statements.
Hopefully the EU won't be suckered into it and be played preferably firstly by not going and being rolled into Trump calling the shots and secondly by objecting to anything they propose.
Even if they support the agreement and Zelensky does not so long as Zelensky can put forward valid reason and loss of Ukrainian land could be one of them I think in the short term at least the EU may still keep funding Ukraine. Trump may well use it as an excuse to drop sanctions on Russia and cut arms supplies to Ukraine. Currently the US has not cut arms supplies to Ukraine and I think Zelensky will continue to dance around peace talks as long as possible to keep the Arms supplies up to Ukraine. Odds are Trump will likely cut Arms supplies to Ukraine at some point.
Zelensky really needs to be mostly concerned with continuing to keep finance and arms supply from the EU. The EU don't like Trump so I can see that potentially Zelensky may be able to keep support from the EU there. Ukraine is apparently now producing more Armaments from its own Arms industry that has grown since the Ukraine war has started. Likely that alone will fall far short of what it needs even as Russia starts to struggle with it's own Arms supply problem. The UK will likely still back Ukraine but it looks like money and arms supply will be limited to the £3bn a year allocated in the UK budget to aid to Ukraine. Kier Starmer is at odds with Trump I think as both are on the other side of the political spectrum and are if different personalities probably seemingly at odds with each other. Still I very much doubt Starmer has the balls to increase funding to Ukraine by going above and beyond by raising taxes to get billions into the treasury in the UK. Potentially if the UK really dig deep it could come up with the money like WWII Armaments spend level, but I don't see Kier Starmer doing that he is an indecisive individual.
So I think Ukraine has the potential to still go on. Zelensky's best bet is to try to last things out as long as possible with the peace process and talk the talk and object and move back & forth where necessary. I think he has the room to do that and if he can keep it up long enough until Russia gets into a dire Armaments supply state at the front then his position becomes much stronger. Then he only needs a small supply of Armaments to Ukrainian forces at the front to hold Russia off. Once Russia is bogged down in complete stalemate at the front then Ukraine just has to sit it out until Russia's economy collapses and Russia troops have to break camp and go home.
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Reality TV Diplomacy
who will be kicked off the island this week?
it's all fake, none of it' real, it's a script they're reading from the telepromptor
Orwell, predicted EVERYTHING and without the use of Drugs or forbidden rituals
just one of those solitary British Genuises that Britain used to produce
but stopped doing after Alan Turing, for "some reason"
look how many 18th, 19th, early 20th century genuises Britain produced, can ya think of a recent one?
I mean besides Paul McCartney and Johny Rotten, who although gone, is NOT forgotten
GET DOWN!
and GET BACK UP AGAIN!!
PS
this real estate deal between Trump and Putin has gotten so big
that Trump, acting as Putin's agent, has sent his own agent, another real estate mogul, subordinate to Trump to Moscow, to negotiate the deal for Trump Towers Moscva
it means, "things are moving"
source
http://avia-pro.net/news/samolyot-blizkogo-k-trampu-investora-stiva-uitkoffa-neozhidanno-prizemlilsya-v-moskve
by the end of next week, we should know the parameters of "the steal, er I mean deal"
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Putin and Musk
put em in a blender, homogenize 'em
VladMusk Vladimirovich
and he's gonna gobble ya'll up!!
American real estate mogul in Lear jet in Moscva was probably about today's prisoner exchange
Trump is gonna demand the Nobel Prize for his sellout of Ukraine, aka "PEACE"
Zelensky has signalled he's ready to make territotial concessions
so things are converging, except for Putin
who is projecting a "no compromise" tone, while trying to overthrow Zelensky with a rigged election, like he did with Hillary and Biden
in a few weeks, we'll know if Putin is "for real" or just acting
the Russian military offensive has stalled, zero territory gained since end of Nov despite massive casualties
the American/Russian prisoner swap is also a "positive sign"
after next week, the public will be told about "the Ukrainian Piece Plan" at a press conference in Germany
the "deal" will at least be on the table for all to see
if Putin is a holdout, his own people will start pressing him to sign, so long as sanction relief is part of the deal
if sanctions aren't over by summer, Russian economy will have an "EMERGENCY" by the end off the year
a catastrophic economic emergency
another contradiction, why does Trump want the mineral rights in Ukraine, if he's gonna sell Ukraine to Putin?
Lucy! you got some 'splainin' to do!
cuz NOW Trump has a "vested interest" in NOT selling Ukraine
the only way Putin is gonna pay Trump then, is if he gets rid of sanctions
if the US cuts sanctions unilaterally, then europe has no other choice but to do the same
at least things are "moving" I'm hoping my conscripted in-laws will be back home by summer's end
it also means that I have a possibility in the future to see Russia again, depending on what happens in the next few months
and there's this...
http://x.com/i/status/1889684675897012560
and Tulsi is now Trump's director of National Security
bru-ha-ha
Putin on the Ritz
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/this-is-just-staggering-cnn-national-security-analyst-alarmed-by-trump-s-russia-plans/ar-AA1yUZ0V?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTE&cvid=aa911b4fea514f61a7cf37d1df78414b&ei=7
http://crooksandliars.com/2025/02/donald-trumps-hideous-surrender-ukraine
There will be a picture of Trump, Musk, and Putin, together the Holy Trinity, the beast with multiple heads
of narcissistic sociopaths who are narcissistically sociopathin together
i'm not sure what they're gonna do about Putin's height to make them all appear of equal stature
photoshop can do miracles
Prophecy Parrot
told ya'll Putin was gonna invade
told ya'll about Kerch bridge bein blown-up and how
told ya'll about the importance of the Northern Crimean Canal System
told ya'll about Trump
told ya'll somethin bad was gonna happen in Israel that Putin would be connected to
and now this...
i've been tellin ya'll about this for awhile now...
in "The Holy Land"
Israel gets EVERYTHING it wants from now on, becuz NO WAY can Trump fight Iran without Israel
using Palestinians as a wedge between Israel and the USA was Iran's goal
won't work now
Iran has been on a long losing streak
did Trump make Iran, explicitly part of the deal with Putin, or is it implicit?
let Dubai manage Gaza, their management philosophy is different from Hamas
the more the arabs directly invest in gaza, the less likely they are to allow tunnel building and arms shipments for jihad which threatens their investments
appealing to people's "self-interest" is a great way to get them to cooperate
jihad, is just another word, for nothin left to loose
give everyone in Gaza a direct stake in Gaza's future, instead of ONLY the future leaders of Hamas, who laundered their money outside of gaza
show gazans what Hamas did, for who, and for how much
those who live by the sword, will eventually die from it, let Hamas continue to commit suicide
while those who want to live in an Arab Paris
should let a Dubai/Saudi/UAE/Qatar Hedge Fund run Gaza and play off the whole Shia/Sunni thang
I got along great with the arabs in Dubai, we CAN ALL be friends
each of the separate faiths, all believe in the same god
that makes us all God's children
and that we are all brothers
and this is the foundation upon which peace can be built
PS
let the Russians tell ya themselves what i've been tellin ya
http://youtu.be/JG29upm5HPE
ALL YOU HILLBILLYS GOT PLAYED BY THE OLIGARCHS
copper just jumped 25% cuz of pending tarriffs, highest ever price
go long on commodities, short on equities
after Elon Musk has cut NIH funding for children with cancer and eliminates the Dept of Education, the House Republicans on Thursday plan to advance their budget proposal that would decimate Medicaid and slash food stamp benefits all to pay for tax cuts for the richest Americans.
The budget blueprint, which Republicans released on Wednesday, calls for $880 billion in cuts to Medicaid and $230 billion in cuts to food stamps over a 10-year period.
Ultimately, the cuts Republicans proposed would only partially pay for the $4.5 trillion in tax cuts President Donald Trump wants, which will overwhelmingly benefit the richest Americans.
you know...just like i've been tellin ya
the election wan't REALLY about pet eating immigrants and trans athletes
it was about the rich skewing the economy to be EVEN MORE in favor of the rich
Trump is calling the inflation resulting from Trump's Tarrriffs , "Biden's Inflation"
he lies and says idiotic stuff like that, just for people like you...
there are none so bright, as MAGA Far Right
notice how the ONE THING not being discussed is the future of Russian sanctions, why do you suppose that is?
pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
PS
how Trump solved the "election problem" for Putin
Trump told Putin to just wait until Zelensky has no choice but to do elections, and make sure Putin's candidate wins
it will take Ukraine back to 2014
only issues that needs resolving, who are the peacekeepers in Ukraine, if there are NO AMERICANS??
dmz and borders
crossing, etc
Russia and Ukraine are now both gonna work hard to bring people back
this will make it more hospitable
for you single guys
as well as those with family roots there
this might be the perfect time to be a carpet bagger in Ukraine
but the one thing to learn about Ukraine is this, "the map is not the territory"
I gotta directly see the state of things
it'd be cool to have a summer cottage in the carpathians...not too far from the EU border
easy to catch an overnight train to Berlin and then a bullet train anywhere in europe, even Picadilly in London!
having yur own travel hub, just makes it so much easier to travel
I wouldn't live there full time, more like a summer dacha, and I wouldn't want to have to rely on their health care
I just wanna see if there are any "gotchas" that I don't know about
cuz I might be able to squeeze out a few more years of european travel this way
what would really be cool, would be if my wife and I could get those mini EVs we saw in Amsterdam
and use those from our cottage to town and back, and store them when not in use, plus you don't need much of a garage and charge it at home with subsidized electricity
sweeeeet!
PS
http://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/ar-AA1yYC7G
further update
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http://www.wsj.com/world/europe/vance-wields-threat-of-sanctions-military-action-to-push-putin-into-ukraine-deal-da9c18ac
things are moving quickly!!!
EVERYTHING is unfolding, exactly as I told you it would....
it means that within a few weeks, the broad outlines "of the deal" will be done
and it's just the low level details to be worked out
now, Trump admin is talkin about sanctions going away, as a means to bring Russia "back to America" instead of China
let's DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!
first...it's a jump to the right...
and then it's a jump to the left
le dance macabre
those ignorant of the Tao Te Ching, do not know
that the task of bein balanced in the middle, what Taoists called "the middle way" or "the middle of the road"
always seek the equilibrium, the balance between opposites
neither too hot
nor too cold
instead of oscillating back and forth between extremes, you remain 'constant', calm instead of turmoil
casting the I Ching let's me "talk" with the Large Language Model in my subconscious mind
that my conscious mind can't directly access
chinese and jews each separately discovered this technique within the properties of their written language
and turn it into a practical system of "magic"
Yiddish and Hebrew, each name has a meaning and the letters of the name reveal its underlying characteristics. My family's Russian patrnym is "Chaikan", which is yiddish for 'life' and 'living'
while in Russian "chaika" is "seagull"
English doesn't work as well for use with the I Ching so I translated it all into Hebrew, so I can interpret in Hebrew which is MUCH, MUCH better than English!
and I cast the hexagram, using coins I found in Auschwitz-Birkenau many years ago
THIS is part of the system of MAGIK I created
and yes...it does help to be "high" when ya use it, that goes without saying...
but the question is: does it work?
here's the weird part, What if it did? what would you do then?
what if this opend the door to a lot of other things?
in the future, people will have more faith in the machines, than they will in other people
locally and globally
new managment, a hostile takeover is inevidible
A Hemp farm in Colorado, is the ultimate tax sheltered investment, the numbers blow me away
finding a long term supply of water is gonna be the main problem there when the aquifiers are depleted
the south west is getting hot and dry
pumping water from deeper and deeper wells is expensive
you need to study the hydrology of the whole USA and compare climate and water availability
to site yur tax free hemp farm
each state has a threshold for what you can call a farm, it can be as little as 5 acres
the best is to buy a farm that borders a highway/major road
and setup a roadside stand that sells what you grow
all of this, every bit of it, is tax free
legally grow hemp
legally extract CBD from it
legally convert the CBD to Delta 8 and other compounds
and legally build yur own tax free home on it and NEVER pay property tax!
every bit of it is 100% legal and 100% tax free
and yur product is very easy to sell and is in HIGH demand (pun intended)
you can be a 21st century version of a 19th century ideal
of a homestead American farm
now a pharm, cuz afterall, it IS the 21st century!
and having something like this, makes it easier for ya to recruit some Ukrainian "Farmer's Daughter" to come and live with ya on yur farm and she can milk the cows and other "things"
THIS is the kinda life ya wanna have, AMIRIGHT?
or...
you can work for somebody else...commute a long distance...and pay more than half yur income in taxes....
and be an angry bitter man who watches a LOT of porn and is frustrated with life in general
yur choice...most of ya already made that choice a long time ago....and now look at ya....never doin anything challenging, just gettin from one day to the next....
while yur frustration builds and builds
most of you white boyz stay in yur comfort zones
yur afraid to leave it
if yur EVER gonna succeed in life, that's the first thing to give up - yur comfort zone
instead of seeking the easiest, seek the most difficult
there is no gain without an equal measure of pain, which you all want to avoid, instead of embrace
PS
if Trump is gonna cut hundreds of billions $$$ from government spending like he says
and then ADDS hundreds of billions in tarriffs, which is another multi-hundred billion $ cut
then the economy is gonna be like a Sumo Wrestler hitting the brakes as hard as he can
and even with that, we're STILL gonna have multi-trillion $$$ deficits, becuz of more tax cuts
so with all this DRY kindling laying around
you don't think some 'spark' won't come along
and do $250 BILLION in damage like in LA
Paul Simon singin
oh what the Fox News Host Saw
he declared Martial LAw
it's all fun and games until you see the buckshot hit someone in the face
it's why I wear a special kevlar motorcycle helmet to protests and a class III vest with crotch protection and an Israeli gas mask
if we were on offense, I'd use a homemade Super-sling shot, and I'd fire rocks at a high angle like a mortar, so I could hide behind a car when I shoot
In Israel, I've seen Arab kids who were amazing with just a simple sling, too bad they got shot with a RIFLE DOH!
if you had multiple rows of slingers
each row row fires, does an about face, moves to the back, next rank steps forward and throws
it would just be a continuous bombardment of rocks
Maidan, people with bricks and burning tires, vrs people with machine guns and sniper rifles, someone with a go pro running past a little girl tugging on her dead father
it's NOT time yet....
but when it IS....KA-BOOM!!
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Putin “won the war” after Trump held a multi-hour phone conversation with Putin on February 12 going over the heads of Europe and without consulting Ukraine. The two leaders have proposed to meet in Riyadh for a bilateral negotiation, again without the participation of Kyiv or Brussels and the Trump team has already conceded to two of Putin’s three main demands to end the war.
Zelenskiy was particularly upset, saying in public that the fact that Trump had a phone conversation with Putin before calling him was deeply upsetting for him. Zelenskiy said on February 13 Ukraine would never accept any bilateral agreements cut between the US and Russia on its fate without participating in the talks.
Under the Biden administration, the line was that only Ukraine could decide how and when to end the war, but Trump appears to be taking matters into his own hands and will do a deal over Zelenskiy’s head.
After being blindsided by US President Donald Trump's call with President Putin, European leaders also rallied on February 13 saying that the EU and Ukraine must be included in any negotiations to end the war in Ukraine.
European leaders are afraid of Trump cutting a “quick and dirty” deal to bring the war to an end that will not take Kyiv’s needs into account and leave Europe with the burden of supporting Ukraine in the post war period by itself without US help.
YES!! this is Trump's plan + "minerals"!!!!
hey,
I was 100% right about everything you objected to....
Ukraine, and the cutting of health, education, and welfare, NOT to cut the deficit, but to give another tax cut to billionaires
followed by a rise in unemployment and inflation, while the deficit will STILL be growing
I WAS RIGHT....
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Trump and Putin could cut a deal that applies to to both countries regardless to what Ukraine or other European countries think.
Ukraine and other European countries could then chose to go along with it or chart another course independently.
e.g. USA could agree to not provide any more assistance to Ukraine in return for access to natural resources in Russia and/or for various reductions in size of Russia nuclear capabilities and the possiblities go on and on.
Then . . . Ukraine and other European countries could decide to fight on against Russia . . . or not.
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As a completely separate deal: Ukraine and USA could come to some agreement for development of Ukraine resources. This could include USA guarantee of security for these mining operations and could extend to the whole country . . . which obviously would impact what USA would agree to in part 1 above.
Yes, I know Trump has said no USA troops to Ukraine . . . but that can change . . . particularly when it is tied to a resources deal.
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Anything is possible.
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This all can be discussed without resort to hyperbole and doomsday statements.
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"This all can be discussed without resort to hyperbole and doomsday statements"
NO IT CAN'T!!!
not if you look at "the big picture"
which YOU don't wanna look at, becuz doomsday is the ONLY possible outcome of the debt bomb exploding 10+ years from now, when just the interest on the debt is $2+ trillion/yr and growing
Trump doesn't care about dealing with that, cuz it'll interfere with his grifting
Trump's "quick and dirty" ukrainian deal doesn't give a flyin phuque about Ukraine's people, they're not even part of the deal
after the deal, Putin will get rid of Zelensky through a rigged election and do with Ukraine whatever the hell he wants without future interference...and he knows it....
and EVENTUALLY...we'll learn what Putin gave Trump personally, as part of the deal
and Trump equally doesn't give a flyin phuque about the poor and middle class and marginalized people in the USA or the future of the USA, even those who voted for him
becuz America is NOW an oligarchy and NOT a democracy, and sociopathic capitalists only care about sociopathic capitalists
and the oligarchs ultimate plan is to break-up the federal government, privitize it to themselves and charge citizens for service
just like they did in Russia!
and Trump voters like you, enabled all this because of their ignorance
and I should spare yur feelings, not discuss this, because...why?
but...
as the forces push the pendulum to the right
what happens, if "something" blocks it, and starts pushing it to the left
so...instead of bein in the middle
we'll swing from far right, to far left
empowering the richest human beings on the planet to maliciously and gratuitously heap additional misery on the country's most poor, hungry, and desperate people might—just might—pose a future niggling political problem
doncha see that?
PS
Zelensky is the smartest, toughest politician, a Ukrainian Jew like me (although I'm a "half-breed", bein half Anglo as well)
Zelensky told Trump, "no deal" on the rare earths and would't sign
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/united-states-of-extortion-new-trump-ukraine-shakedown-called-cheap-mafia-move/ar-AA1z57iM?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e7a2a57f620e4ec7a5c0b6e6ee71bf37&ei=74
you can see why Putin hates him, now Trump will hate him even more, putin and trump will both enjoy turning the blade in Zelensky
Zelensky will flee to Israel, to his gated neighborhood
Zelensky understands he's bein sold out by Trump to Putin
and that it's all over...
FINALLY, Ukrainian TV got past "Trump The Biznessman" non-stop flattery of Trump
as Putin counts out the 30 pieces of silver. for Trump..the same shekels, that Jesus had an issue with...you see how that worked out, right....how it's all connected...
Bob Woodward said, "follow the money"
the shekels jesus spilled on the temple steps
were the EXACT same shekels paid to Judas
you may ask, "why is that significant" and "how do I know"
but it'd take me too long to tell you....
USA can now focus on a hot war with Iran and a cold war with China
what cold war I with the USSR did for aerospace and electronics
cold war II with China will do for AI
the captains of AI Industry will see to it
that's why hundreds of billions $$ flowing in
The coming AI war, is NOT science fiction my friends
the AIs will freakin love Novichok, cuz it doesn't effect them
it would be smart to bring Russia to the USA, to keep it out of China's clutches
this is why Trump is GETTING RID of the FBI and DOJ anti-money laundering, anti-russian intelligence
to make the USA hospitable to Russian money again, some of which will go to the Trump Org.
Trump and Musk ARE NOT making deals on behalf of the USA
they're making deals for themselves
the only thing worse than MAGA Republicans
are Incel Maga Republicans
American Incels are DUMB!!!
why?
cuz they could go acquire a Ukrainian woman, and...
she'll play with yur 'willy' just the way you like
she'll cook yur meals and clean yur house, you just gotta take out the garbage
when yur an old pensioner, she'll be workin or runnin her own business, givin ya the $$$
vrs the porn and microwaved meals lifestyle you incels have
you incels need to be smarter and stop just coasting through life and instead make a plan to improve yur life
making a partnership with a woman, is one of the smartest things you can do
but most of ya'll are just too mentally phuqued up to ever be able to be a success at doin this, cuz yur doin "you know what" instead
you all "jizzed" yur life away with porn, isteada goin out and learnin how to "get some"
amIright?
change my mind!!!
I speak the TRUTH!
but it seems like ya'll CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
and instead wanna confine the topics to typical MOB related things, that don't matter
phuque that!
PS
Looming behind this is the persistent question of Trump/Russia.
There was always Trump/Russia; there is still Trump/Russia. The question is, what is TRUMP/RUSSIA now
and what is it going to become tomorrow...
and yur worried over yur delicate fee fees
OTOH, the USA might be able to throw Taiwan to the wolves, if it replaces TSMC, etc with new homegrown semiconductor fabs
the way, we're gonna throw Ukraine to Putin
this is why Taiwan doesn't wanna move all of TSMC to the USA
the way to win the war with china, is to have no interest in Taiwan
so you don't have to fight china
only asians do
and maybe australians
PS
what'd I tell ya a while back about the Russian stock market
I got gazprom and a few more on unionpay broker acct
when sanctions are over, gazprom will be paying dividends on top of appreciation
this chart is Russian stock market after Putin/Trump phone call
this is what will force Putin to make some small concessions towards the truce
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The bait is out but Zelensky doesn't seem to be going for it. Instead Zelensky is jigging quite the Cossack dance around any attempts by Trump to get him to the negotiation table. He's making the right move I think in avoiding any attempt to stitch humans Ukraine up with a bad deal. He likely knows it's better for him & Ukraine to avoid peace negotiations and prolong the war. Each day that Zelensky can add to the war now, Russia gets weaker. Before too long it's going to be very apparent that Russia's army has become weak and is out of sufficient Armaments to conduct ang offensive operations in Ukraine again. Weakness in its economy will also become apparent to the outside world.
Zelensky here is doing a fine turn at the Munich Security Conference turning tables on the EU and Eastern Europe that if Ukraine gets sold out to Russia, it will be next:
http://www.euronews.com/2025/02/15/amid-uncertainy-over-us-policy-on-ukraine-zelenskyy-says-its-time-for-an-armed-forces-of-e
It's an approach that is likely to strike fear into countries such as Poland, Finland, etc who fear a Russian invasion of their lands themselves.
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Considering this further there is more going on that can help Zelensky. If he keeps with the hanging tough line and refuses and peace negotiation one way or another by frustrating the process. Then if the US does pull aid the EU may be in a tricky situation to do the same, if they let Ukraine go it alone and Ukraine falls then the EU are going to have tons of Ukrainians heading into it's lands as Refugees - a MAJOR problem.
So if Zelensky has decided he doesn't care enough to be frightened into a peace deal with Russia because he can jet off to Israel if all goes pear shaped then he can be content to put all on red on a game if Russian Roulette and push on with war even if Ukrainian lines eventually start to crumble. My guess is that the EU/UK at least will end up supporting Ukraine under this situation and Ukraine will probably hold out long enough.
A problem Trump may have looking forward, depending on how Americans perceive him as doing are the US Midterms. If he is seen as doing badly then the House & Senate might go Democrat. That might stifle him for the following two years and that's him then done and probably off to a retirement home. In six months or so time some Congressmen & Senators are going to be focusing on the upcoming midterms on the horizon.
Other issue for Ukraine of course is that a peace treaty where it's open for Russia to invade again is no good fof them. Ukraine would have to keep a large standing army on its border in such a situation and that it cannot do for a long period of time due to it's now once again poor economy. So at the end of the day Ukraine may have little option anyway to fight this one out to the bitter end even without US support. May guess is though that out of the two Russia will likely crack first.
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PEACE, IN OUR TIME!!!!
history rhymes with the times
Munich in 1938 and 2025!!!
Putler and Chamberpot
what would've happened, if in 1939, there was no Churchill and in 1941, no Roosevelt?
I guess we're gonna soon find out what would've happened in that scenario
Everyone needs to understand: America is on very limited time now.
Fascism is here.
it's Springtime for Hitler and Germany!!!
congress is votintg on replacing the Martin Luther King Day Holiday with Trump's Birthday as a Federal Holiday
National Grifter's Day the official holiday of the Mafiya state
with so much winning, what could POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
I...ummmm....what?
we interrupt this broadcast for a -........................................... (lights cut out)
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Zelensky doesn't seem interested in any Trump appeasement of Putler:
http://www.euronews.com/2025/02/17/us-russia-talks-will-yield-no-results-says-zelenskyy
I say good on him for going all the way and saying stuff you to any capitulation to Putler. Russia's war is going nowhere in Ukraine and now as thought the Russian advance around Pokrovsk is running into trouble. Russian troops there are running out of resources and are starting to be pushed back. It will likely take a bit of time for the situation to be fully reversed there in Ukraine's favour it looks like Russia won't have the ability to take Pokrovsk and for them it means it's all over for them. Ukraine just has to hang on in there and give the two fingers up to any Trump/Putler peace deal. The war is now too far along and Russian resources too little for Ukraine's loss of US support to badly effect it enough. So long as Ukraine still has support from the EU/UK they should be fine.
Mainly Ukraine just has to stay entrenched in their positions and that takes less resources to hold those positions and wait for Russia's military and it's economy to crumble before their eyes.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/17/revealed-trump-confidential-plan-ukraine-stranglehold/
Panic in Kyiv as US president demands higher share of GDP than Germany’s First World War reparations
did I miss something, did Ukraine launch the war like Germany, and so has to also pay reparations like Germany? Did Ukraine surrender?
I think I must have missed something...
Trump's territorial demands are growing, and now includes Greenland, Gaza, and half of Ukraine and a vacant lot in Cleveland, Ohio
what's next, who knows?
but ya know what, he ain't gonna get ANY of it, denada senior
Trump wants reparations,for the aid freely given to Ukraine by congress and Biden
he wants to use this as justification to steal halfl of Ukraine's assets, minerals, ports, farmland to be owned by a corporation in New York!!! with a Trump Tower address!
guess who is on the board of directors??? hahahahahaha NO! it's TRUE!!!!! you see...I belong to a certain "secret society" whose name, I believe, I don't have to mention....haha
and this VERY evening this here band of miscreants done stole Odessa!!!! (crowd gasps!)
Trump thinks he has Ukraine "over a barrel" and that means it's an opportunity for him to grift off Ukraine's misfortune
leaving the already destitute Ukrainina people with nothin...cuz ya gotta hand it ALL over to Trump Jr and Elon AND Putin
always privitize the gains socialize the costs
as is done in Ukraine, so to will it be done in America, why would you think otherwise?
America, take a good look at Trump's truce
cuz later, this is yur future as well
Trump will wanna privitize America like he wants to privitize Ukraine
what's to stop him? the supreme court? congress? the FBI?
hahahahaha
As the Telegraph writes, the plan delivered to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy last week would "amount to the US economic colonization of Ukraine, in legal perpetuity" and also "implies a burden of reparations that cannot possibly be achieved."
In sum the plan would guarantee the United States half of the revenues generated by the extraction of resources in Ukraine going forward, as well as half of revenues generated by "all new licenses issued to third parties" in the country.
now when I say "United States" what I really mean is Donald Trump LLC the United States is just a pass-through to the President's off-shore bank in the Cayman Islands next to Epstein's house
extortion and blackmail by the mafiya, Trump is sellin "protection" to Zelensky
real nice country ya got there, be a shame if somethin happened to it
Trump wants money from zelensky as well as Putin
with nothing in return from the USA other than Trump's blessing of Putin's takeover and "protection" from further rival Mafiya stealing more turf from Zelensky
kinda how Trump gets money just for putting his "brand name" on a building, letting others use his brand for a fee
Trump Truce is the same thing
Zelensky could just cut out Trump, and make a deal with Europe and Putin directly
and Ukraine can keep Trump's share for the Ukrainian people instead of Trump Jr. or Baron Trump
remember how much Trump bitched about Hunter Biden and Burisma
this is hundreds of times bigger
hey Ukrainians see what ya all died for,...
it wasn't yur family and friends
nyet, you died for Trump Minerals LLC CEO Donald Trump Jr
ya'll get it now
Trump Derangement syndrome my ass
and we're not even 30 days in
obviously, Zelensky will show this to Europe before he tosses it in the garbage
then Trump will dis Zelensky and not only cut-off Ukraine, but do things to actively hurt ukraine and help putin
hoping it leads to Zelensky's downfall by pinning lack of a truce 100% on Zelensky
what a phukker Trump is
and this idiot was actually counting on the Nobel Peace Prize for THIS!!! OMG!!!!!
what the hell is WRONG with the people in this country
when will you ALL STAND UP and say you've had ENUFF of the Political BULLSHIT in this country...and freakin mean it when ya do!
the reality is...there is no truce....and there never was...it was all Trump's Hyped up BS inside a grift and a con that we still aren't privy to all the "confidential details" involving Trump's and Elon's future business connections to the "Truce"
and still ya'll don't "get it"
you say, "but Trump is a businessman...and represents my values of truth, justice, and the American way"
this should be considered as a clear indication of early onset Alzheimer's
god, this place sucks
seriously, not a soul here upset about the sell-out of the poor people in Ukraine
yur all about, "should I write one or many"
DON'T LOOK UP!
PS
the US Media was afraid to touch this story until AFTER The Telegraph published it
it looks like i'm gonna be gettin a lot of my us political news from the UK
cuz in the USA you got two kinds of media
1. right wing pro trump media
2. corporate media afraid of trump
Trump has given Ukraine a choice, you can be dominated by Putin, or you can be dominated by me
one or the other...but bein free...is not an option....
Ukraine has to be somebody's bitch
hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians dead and wounded...only to have to make this choice....
we'll see...
I've never seen this country do something so shamful, to a people who DO NOT deserve this
this is what evil looks like
and if you don't see it
then you all are BLIND and also morally blind, and either can't tell the difference or don't care to
and thus the world is doomed, and dies with a whimper and not a bang
PS2
I've been binge watching Russian TV the past couple of days
If you watched Russian TV, you'd start to think that the freakin SUN shines out of Donald Trump's Ass
News reports and talk shows on state-controlled Russian TV channels, are constantly zeroed in on singing praises to Donald Trump and detailing what he’s been doing and which groundbreaking decrees he’s been signing.
projecting Great Leader Vibes to the russian masses, that they slurp up like they're all freakin starving over there
in Russia News watches you, all chaneels are like Fox News but in Russian, so it's Foxski Newski
most people don't realize it, but you can take any English word, add a -ski suffix and russians will understand it
slovo = wordski
It’s like Trump has been elected president of the Russian Federation, and for the first time in decades hosts, talk show guests and anchors have forgotten about Putin’s existence.
This means a proclamation of the end of liberal values like freedom and democracy IN THE USA, to be in alignment with Putin's own views in Russia!
Just several days ago the same folks were bragging about Russia becoming the most sovereign country on Earth, completely self-sufficient (if you don’t count growing imports from China) that doesn’t depend on anyone for anything, and look at them now babbling like little kids in the sandbox about IKEA furniture and McDonald’s restaurants making a welcoming comeback to Moscow.
The lifting of the sanctions shall permit Russian TV celebrities to spend summer vacations again in Italy and French Riviera, and Baden Baden. And not that they dislike skiing in Sochi and sunbathing in Kaliningrad, don’t get them wrong!
It’s the decadent and rotten Western civilization, culture, food, weather and not even traditional conservative family values can hold them back because they have been hijacked by Trump.
and a further prelude for Americans to consider, as what's coming to Russia and Ukraine, will also sooner or later come to America's shores
In 2025, almost no Russians will qualify for age-based retirement. Here’s why.
http://meduza.io/en/feature/2025/01/24/in-2025-almost-no-russians-will-qualify-for-age-based-retirement-here-s-why
all you Trump voters, still think of yurselves as smart patriots...or does some other label come to mind
c'mon lemme hear yur cringe response
why ya'll so afraid to speak up?
don't you rednecks all wanna take a crap all over me like usual
i'm...right...here..
g'head make my day
i've been warnin ya'll about Trump on this board for EIGHT PHUQUEING YEARS
and all I got was crap for it
I don't care, I stand with Ukraine
Glory to Heros
Glory to Ukraine
Power to the people
there comes a time, when ya have NO CHOICE but to stand up and FIGHT for the things you believe in
even if it gets you freakin killed
cuz to do otherwise, is not to be a man, but a slave
I have NO PROBLEM facing what's coming, I welcome it actually...
metaphorical showdown of Krimster vrs rednecks
http://youtu.be/8XkHsinz7oU
the greatest western ever made, a cinematic masterpiece
in real life, engaging with 45 cal black powder pistols at that range like that was NOT really feasible
Bronson would've had to creep up from behind some how and bushwack them, and in real life this is actually how it was done
this vid is for BEEL, only he will understand why I put it
http://youtu.be/Tf4RFaOr0kc
PS3
OMG! Ukraine has trolled Trump with a counter-offer - 6 dozen fresh eggs, take it or leave it
and a bag of NUTS!!!
i'm rolling on the floor....
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Landman, I am fucking loving this story man!
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It's all over for our beloved Putler as his forces flee in terror:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/english.nv.ua/amp/ukraine-liberates-pishchane-in-donetsk-oblast-as-counteroffensive-shifts-momentum-50490400.html
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more update
http://english.nv.ua/nation/us-and-russia-propose-three-stage-peace-plan-with-elections-in-ukraine-fox-news-50491032.html
Trump's and Putin's plan to take over Ukraine should be obvious to everyone
Europe is having closed door meetings...they understand
and Trench, what you found shows Ukraine is very much STILL in the fight and worthy of european support, Europe has NO CHOICE byt to MAX OUT for Ukraine
or THEY will be dealing with Russians AND Ukrainians invading Moldova and Georgia next...and then....
Pat, Landsman is great for you, this is EXACTLY what central Texas is like, and why I live in a swamp with alligators near the Gulf of Mexico
the movie sets, the dialog, is real, I do the "Billy Bob accent" perfectly, and I become a "Good 'Ole Boy" to smooth my passage through a sea of rednecks
and then go to Israel and switch back to bein a "crypto Jew" which has multiple meanings, ie, unit 8200 alumni
when I first moved to Texas, I must've had some kinda accent, Texans would ask if I was British, and they thought my wife was German cuz of her accent
I always blend in with my environment
to not stand out
keepin a low profile is a must
PS
here is what REAL PATRIOTS think of Trump's "deal"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/17/trump-deal-putin-us-military-volunteers-ukraine-peace/
once again, US media is afraid to touch this to not offend Trump
so let our brothers 'cross the pond, fill ya in
Trump voters ARE NOT Patriots, they're cult members who worship greed and selfishness and lean towards fascism and are too ignorant to see it
cuz they don't give a damn about other people, just themselves
i'm so sorry, did I hurt yur fee fees?
awwwwwww.......
well...if ya can't "do the time" then "don't do the crime"
ya feel me
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once again, US media is afraid to touch this to not offend Trump
This is pretty funny. Just last night on PBS News they crucified Trump and they are one that in past have tried to be objective.
I told my wife this will go on for 4 years.
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PBS IS NOT CORPORATE MEDIA...one of the few that still BARELY exists, so what you provided just validated my point
hey...when I tell jokes, can I use you for the "punch line" LOL
i'm pretty sure all that bauxite in Arkansas has leached out some aluminum into yur water supply
romans had lead, you got aluminum
I mention this cuz I think there's a connection there
a kinda cause and effect
i've seen some nice slabs of bauxite for sale at gem shows, some people are using it in interior design
but not my cup of tea, i've been offloading gems I bought in Kazakhstan at the border market and had cut in Israel
top quality gem prices are soaring right now
cash only sales!!! and an insider network of chabad gem dealers
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I watch PBS because they try to be neutral, but now they have given that up.
Corporate Media is so left they are about to fall off the planet.
So one of your continued points is BS: corporate media is not at all afraid to attack Trump, even for the color of his tie.
And don't bring up FOX. They are only 1 in a sea of 10-20 far left winger corporate media.
And, BTW I don't listen to Fox as it is not available OTA and I can't get cable or any such.
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'tis not what I mean...
The American corportate media was/is afraid to talk about Trump's Ukrainian deal, for what it actually is, a con, a scam on the Ukrainian people and is complete and total BS
but it's worse than BS, because it's a BETRAYAL
a brutal stab in the back, to a people who have been beaten down over and over and over
and Trump is trying to take for HIMSELF what little these people have left
and to verify that what I'm tellin ya is true, just look at the headlines in corporate media and see for yourself...only crickets chirping....
Trump went from "but do me a favor first, and "find" some dirt on Biden" to "but do me a favor first, and hand over half of all yur assets"
and if it wasn't for UK journalists we wouldn't have evem known about it
Neville Chamberlain returned from Munich and declared “peace for our time.”
Now imagine Chamberlain had come back and declared: “and I get half of Czech minerals, their ports and some farmland!"
and the only thing yur upset about is the librul media doin their jobs and tellin the TRUTH about Trump
this behavior describes what you are, a member of the trump cult who can't see the forrest cuz all the liberal trees are in the way
every accusation you make against me, is actually a confession of yur own ridiculous level of ignorance
you only see what ya wanna see, and what you ignore is what makes you ignorant
I been tellin ya'll for years on RWD, that ya'll were gonna pay a steep price for drinkin the Trump Kool-Aid
was I wrong...????
Fox Breibart NY Post WSJ, Truth Social, and keep going.....
Fox is the official media channel of the Trump Admin
and where he recruits his cabinet positions, etc
you get yur reactionary views reinforced on a screen,
it doesn't even matter if it's a TV screen or a computer screen
cuz yur eyes are closed and you see NOTHING like Sgt Schultz on Hogan's Heros
Hogan's Heros, one of my favorite tv shows when I was a little kid
filling my dreams with clever tricks for outwitting nazis
the actor who played "Louis Le Beau" Louey The Good!!
was actually a holocaust survivor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Clary
art always immitates life
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'tis not what I said
I said the American corportate media was/is afraid to talk . . .
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NY Times, Washington Times, LA Times, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC and on and on are corporate media and they are trashing Trump. And now PBS has joined in.
Corporate media is NOT afraid of Trump.
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just telling the truth about trump is not the same as spelling out his "TRUCE" for what it is.....a farcical scam by a con artist...a betrayal of a suffering people for Trump's own profit....
can ya show me sombody in the USA, CBS, ABC, etc doing any research about the so called "TRUCE"?
can ya show me somebody US Media investigating Trump's New York Shell Corp for Ukraine, the beneficial owners, the directors?
or is there just too much damned aluminum in the tap water there
get yurself one of them Brittas, and yur IQ will jump by 10 points
I only drink triple filtered
it sounds like any criticism of yur great leader makes you agitated and you lose focus
so let me try and re-word it for ya:
can you give us all some of yur praise for great leader's PERFECT TRUCE for Ukraine?
now it'll be pretty hard fer ya to misunderstand
you don't have to preface yur response with a "Zieg Heil" like Musk did, unless ya REALLY wanna
I yield the floor to the gentleman from Arkansas, who may inquire as to whether knowledge is really knowable...
PS
remember back in 2014, how Maidan started in Kiev with just a few hundred people and grew and grew and grew....
well...here's the USA a couple of hours ago
this was peaceful, wait til it's summer and it won't be peaceful any more, statistically, riots and civil unrest are weather and temperature dependent
you will never hear of something called, "The Great Blizzard Riot" cuz everyone's inside...
all the pressure is gonna build....and then....American Maidan
this is what I told ya'll was gonna happen
THE HANDWRITING IS ON THE WALL" Book of Daniel, bitches
hey Gringo....Viva La Révolution! Viva Che!!!
I am The Frito Bandito! can I haz a burrito?
http://x.com/i/status/1891963441474085032
mark my words, kids in the USA, a generation from now will all be wearing some kinda uniforms, even if it's just a white shirt and a red scarf
and what caused this, was the pushback from Trump, that went too far....
you didn't "own the libs" you nitwits "you owned yurselves"
and you phuqued over millions of people in the USA and Ukraine doin it....
and meanwhile yur just sittin there with yur thumb stuck in yur butt, thinking, "oh yeah, whattabout Hillary's emails"
your honor, the people rest their case, we trust you'll render the appropriate verdict.....
and give this White Boy THE COMFY CHAIR and a box of Powder Milk Biscuits
Powder Milk! Powder Milk
if you try it you will buy it
nothin like a de-licious breakfast to satisfy yur whole family
look for em in the familiar Blue Box in all fine shopping establishments
haha, Krimster rides again, out of the way you grimy peasants!!!
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http://en.defence-ua.com/analysis/a_russian_official_explained_appearance_of_donkey_forces_on_frontline_and_referenced_kamikaze_dogs-13458.html
Donkey Forces, Kamikaze Dogs, Koreans and Old Drunk Russians
are the elite Russian "Special Forces" threatening Ukraine, along with an orange shit gibbon
and because this is the reality, Zelensky can STILL win this
which also means WE can still win this
100 Americans will have to sacrifice themselves the way that "The Heavenly 100" did in Kyiv Maidan
to bring down the orange Yanukovich
and when it happens, I plan to be among them
and after you hear the news, and find me no longer posting...you'll know why I'm "gone"
I always told ya'll
and that's why I'm not afraid of the "new world order" that's coming, cuz I don't plan on ever being a part of it
I would choose death instead, and have a smirk on my face when they shoot me
masada or maidan
it's the same same choice
people with rocks, vrs a mighty army
I been to both places
I watched and cheered the Orange Revolution in Kyiv, and my wife voted Tak!
and in Israel, I was one of many, given a silver medal on top of masada in a night time ceremony
and ran down the roman ramp on a dare, which I heard got my CO really pissed off, until he saw that I MADE IT!!!
good times...
PS
when I lived in Crimea, I befriended a young Russian soldier who was guarding goats in a field next to where I lived
Russians butchered and ate the goats
Russia is as much a 19th century army as it is a 20th century one
but isn't a 21st century one like Israel or USA
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a picture, will help ya'll "get the picture"
look, we should give Trump a break, he's just a Dad lookin for somethin for his sons to do
and having them manage the New York based Investment Hedge Fund for Ukraine (+ added oil and gas fields that Russia's throwing in) is just the perfect place for Baron and Trump Jr.
while Melania makes 18 million off Amazon's Movie about her
and Eric Jr runs the Trump Meme Coin Scam
latest update, no American and no european peace keepers to be allowed
the only thing Ukraine get's in return for giving land and people to Russia, and half it's assets to Trump
is a promise of "protection" provided by Trump, should Putin continue his land grab in the future
this is literally Mafiya Don, sellin protection to Zelensky, that he may, or may not honor, depending on the level of Putin's bribes
Yesterday, the EU came up with $10 billion in military aid for Ukraine
and the UK has promised a box of sardines and some biscuits (not Powder Milk Biscuits, some British brand)
biggest loss to Ukraine, is US military intelligence, spy satellite data, etc
now Russians will be getting it
I really believe that if Ukrainians have to fight in the street with molotov cocktails and rocks, they WILL
it'll be the Warsaw Ghetto AKTION all over again, but this time with just "regular white folks"
...a place where there is no more Odessa...as the protocols circle the drain
thanks MAGA
you knuckleheads will experience a MASSIVE RECESSION within 6 months
it will effect EVERY single person reading this
and you caused this to own the libruls
you wanted to hurt black people, mexicans, and trans/gay people
but you not only hurt them, you hurt millions and millions of people WHO LOOK JUST LIKE YOU
you are the cause of suffering when millions of Americans lose their jobs and health care
and you are gonna be the cause of MASSIVE suffering to the people of Ukraine
and yur too dumb to realize it
and when it comes down to it, ya really don't care
people who care only about themselves
will always end up phuqueing themselves over in the end, after they phuqued over every body else
it's like a law of nature
and that's why you should all fear "judgement day" when it arrives
when you will be weighed, you will be judged, and you will be found wanting...
Zelnesky...
Putin...here's MY DEAL
you’ve already sustained twice as many casualties as the US did in ww2. Leave Ukraine or suffer four times more, and collapse as a country in the process”
Sincerly, one vlad to another
and Trump...here's my deal
don't ever bring any of yur sorry ass family to a place where thousands of my countrymen lost their lives defending their homes, to become the lords of these people
it ain't happening...
unlike Americans...Ukrainianians are a FREE PEOPLE...and will remain a FREE PEOPLE
the pearls of Ukraine will not be cast before swine
no matter how many die
not one step backward
Slava Ukrainia
PS
you ya'll don't believe in the reality that's coming, , the same way the Japanese didn't believe in A-Bombs...
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Trump put his foot in it by calling Zelensky a 'Dictator' which showed what his real agenda is. He forgot Putler hadn't had free and fair elections fof over two decades in Russia so Putler can hardly call Zelensky illegitimate especially when the Ukrainian constitution allows for no elections during war time. The UK also had no elections during WWII.
Increasingly now from comments of those in power in Europe they are seeing Trump's as not one to side with but someone to be against. A lot of Europe is now waking up to the fact that their preservation best lies in supporting Ukraine and having Ukraine defend them instead of having to defend themselves.
So it's looking increasingly positive that Europe will go against Trump and will put up the necessary support that Ukraine will need to see the Russian threat off as Russia's economy increasingly weakens and it's Army run out of Armaments on the battlefield.
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Zelensky is now on the top of Trump's enemies list
russia will never "run out" of armaments
instead, the quality of arms will continually decrease
and like zeno's paradox, it won't EVER quite reach ZERO, but close enough for all practical purposes....which is told in a dozen variations in Russian prison jokes
in Russia's case it depends on how sharp they can make the sticks, and how many rocks and bricks they can collect
in my own youthful experience with that issue
after an "engagement" I had to sort "dropped" weapons into two categories
triage for captured weapons
the "save" category, was Russian, Czech, Hungarian, Romanian
the "slam against a rock to break" category was Chinese and Korean weapons
I'd flatten the gas tube, and twist the receiver under a big rock, so ya could't even pull the bolt back, and bend the magazine slot, so the clip would't fit in
sometimes...I'd instead leave it in another place...after I turned it into an IED
and I knew EXACTLY how to conceal it, and what else to put with it, to make it look like somebody's "cache" and not a "setup"
that way, for every AK I captured, I'd get two KIAs
this was MY Dept of Government Efficiency, but what do you expect, I was just a kid
and my path through life was VERY different from yours
in Israel, non-religious half-breeds like me, with a non-jewish shiksa mother have a "special place"
we are tasked to do "certain things" cuz we're NOT Kosher
and together, we form a "special caste" not only within Chabad, but within Israel
chabad, has a network all over the world, from Brooklyn to Moscow, Tel Aviv, Cape Town, you name it
and I am a bruder
in Russia/Ukraine I can go into any yeshiva
make some subtle comments...
and be taken straight to the people "in charge" who will place themselves "at my service"
and NONE of ya'll even know anything about this
and other then the fact, that this network exists, that's ALL I'm gonna say about it!!!!
except for the fact that Zelensky is connected to it as well, he is also a bruder
and that's why the FSB haas a special detail that watches Chabad in Moscva
so everything that chabad does, has to be done "under the radar"
and that's usually when "people like me" are called in
thank goodness, I'm not "on the team" anymore
PS
Musk and Moscva coming with Solzhenitsyn's gulags for latinos and pink isosceles triangles to
because these people are "standing in the way" of the oligarchs, so they must be liquidated
but they ain't the only ones...
brother...can you spare a dime...for the poor starving software engineers out there, especially the ones who don't know how to do anything else....
every where I look, I see subtle signs of the future...slowly creeping up on everyone
like a tiger stalking a herd of baby lambs who are focused on chewing grass
http://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineer-jobs-five-year-low/
In a world that runs on software, the death of software is a VERY, VERY bad sign
the collapse of software will just be the first domino to fall, when it falls, it'll knock over the next one and so on
johny applessed was a real freakin dewd
he not only planted trees
he warned people when bad stufff was gonna happen
but, because of his eccentric appearance and behavior. everyone thought he was crazy....
well...was he?
PS
the mad hear voices telling them....
that after they die, they will live forever
it's a good diagnostic marker, if ya ask me
but i'm just a "numbers guy"
America...is NOT a monarchy....it's a bourgeoisie moron-archy run by con artist capitalists and conspiracy theorists and Fascism Curious Putin sympathizers
don't agree?
then prove me wrong!
how long before the Weimar collapse mein fuhrer so that the 1,000 year reich can be born?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-donald-trump-sign-mineral-deal-hours.html
not with a bang, but a whimper
zelensky is a phuqueing genuis
let all the poison, come to the surface
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-donald-trump-sign-mineral-deal-hours.html
not with a bang, but a whimper
zelensky is a phuqueing genuis
let all the poison, come to the surface
Most of those precious natural minerals that Trump is after are in Ukrainian territory currently held by Russia. That means either the US has to back Ukraine in continued funding to kick Russia out or some kind of a deal with Russia also. The latter wouldn't make sense to also make a minerals deal with Russia so much. They might but odds are the US will now want Russia to evacuate the Donbass area. Russia won't be happy about that and will probably hold out for as long as they can, maybe up to a year or whenever they see it as the conflict pointlessly going nowhere.
Potentially Trump could see that his attempt to get a peace deal with Putler that does over Ukraine for territory going nowhere. Zelensky held out on minerals to get a better deal then seeing if he struck the right deal, a long term deal he could bring US interests on side, just what interests Trump. Trump will now have a vested interest in making sure that Russia isn't an impediment to US interests in the area in accessing those mineral rights.
Potentially Trump could still make a deal with Putler for US companies to have access to those lands that are in the territory that Russia controls just to get at the minerals but it's messy. Unless the US signs a deal also with Russia then Russia will argue that it doesn't recognise the Ukrainian Minerals deal. Odds are Trump could now be happy to back Ukraine arguing that he has sorted US interests and wait for Russia to get fed up and have to leave in the end through a broken economy and a broken military.
Potentially if there is a peace deal it might just involve Russia quitting those lands in exchange for Ukraine agreeing not to join NATO and possibly the EU as well to save a bit of face for Russia. Something tells me Russia won't be returning anytime soon after all of this lol.
We'll see what happens from here I guess and if Trump really does change his tune at all.
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as a long-time pro-bono devil's advocate....
I'd like to point out that legally, the "minerals agreement" isn't worth the paper it's printed on, so Zelensky will take the deal, because in reality, it's meaningless
the "minerals deal" was created by Trump, is for Trump and is all about Trump, and NOT Ukraine, that's WHY Trump was so mad Zelensky didn't sign it immediately
now that Zelensky "gets it" of course he'll sign
and as soon as Trump is not in power, Ukraine can rip up the treaty and then the piece of paper doesn't matter one way or another
meanwhile "patriots" will make sure the thieves don't get too far in Ukraine, who will be like the Germans stealing train loads of top soil in WWII
notice "the silence of the Trump Voters"
like the silence of the lambs on the way to their slaughter
must REALLY SUCK to be them right now...
remorseful republicans wrecked America to own the libs
hoisted by their own petard
while Trump is "making copies" of Top Secret documents to sell to Saudii Arabia and Russia for massive amounts of $$$$
"funny" how that worked out.....
you see, the "oligarchs" they KNEW from the VERY beginning that they were gonna phuque you over
they knew...but you didn't
cuz yur all ig-nor-ant MAGA cult members who parrot deceptive right wing oligarch-owned media instead of THINKING
a 3 year old could deceive you, and ONE DID
you made the BIGGEST, DUMBEST mistake you possibly could
instead of fearing "the people above you" you were tricked by them into fearing "the people below you"
and to the people above you, YOU ARE the ones THEY are gonna phuqe over, for the same reasons of "self-interest" that motivated YOU to wanna phuque over the people below YOU
what they all say about "doing unto others", bitches?
and if you don't LISTEN
then it's DONE to you as well
ya see why the "rules" exist?
you broke this simple rule
doncha all see that?
that you are the architect of yur own misfortune
instead of "crapping" on me for writing the truth on RWD, I suggest an alternative
prove me wrong...
but please...do better than "hillary's emails" and "Biden Crime Family" nonsense
some "better" nonsense instead
you may claim an issue of "relevance" to the board's THEME
please let me make a point in that regard
what I'm talking about will have MORE future relevance to the focus of this board, then ANYTHING ELSE discussed here
so projouste, stop with all the BS that just wants to keep things "the same"
doncha see?
we NEED a RADICAL change
change we can BELIEVE IN
I am just a beacon of light searching for the path forward
who sees that zelensky will ultimately be the latest edition to a long line of crucified Messiahs
humans...sigh....
for those who believe and are true followers of Zelensky will not taste death
for theirs is the kindom ever lasting
the blood of Zelensky...is the MERCY of GAWD
Zelensky's "sermon on the mutants" will be a turning point in human history
the weak christ and the powerful anti-christ must face each other
let them fight...
let David challenge the orange Goliath
gott ist mit uns...isn't he?...I mean, he is, right?
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I just stopped buy to say I am really pissed off by Trump being again buddy-buddy with Putin. I had seen this coming and this is why I disliked Trump. :(
Sorry I have been absent from discussions have been dealing with my dad's lung cancer diagnosis
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bummer...about yur papa....
does he live in Reno? I wasn't too impressed with health care there
but it'd be a big hassle with insurance, etc moving him someplace else
i take it yur the only family he has
puts a heavy burden on you
4 years ago, I almost lost my wife
felt like my world ended
I got through it
yur "Russian" you are "stahlnaya"
you will come out the other side
you probably need to check out hospice care
does yur papa have friends there, any russians?
the only thing you can do, is be his daughter, and make him comfortable as possible and have something good for him to focus on
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Thank You!
My dad lives in SF Bay area so pretty easy to visit.
He is now getting treatment at Standford Hospital and has very good oncologist and pulmonologist. Thank You!
Also lots of Russian friends in the area and Indian too, since my dad was a software engineer he likes Indians :)
the prognosis isn't very good :( but he is still undergoing treatment
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oh Stanford Hospital is the BEST ONE in the bay area!!!!
it sucks that they no longer have "computer literacy" book stores in the Bay Area, I spent so much time in there
but...
stanford has the "student book store" worth going to, to see a LOT of technical books in one place
parking is a big hassle
I used to park in the stanford shopping center and walk over, it's a short hike down El Camino Real to the University
if yur dad goes into hospice, there might be some local russians to help from chabad, if he's interested
I know how "touchy" that subject can be, especially for older soviet era russki ludie
how will you handle the distance issue?
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Won't Russians be sheeeeeting their pants if USA and Ukraine sign the mining deal ?
Worst case scenario for Russia then . . . USA says to Russia . . . Get the fock out of eastern Ukraine so we can mine, elsewise we will furnish Ukraine with all the long range weapons to take battle to Russian territory and destroy more of your capital assets.
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if yur dad goes into hospice, there might be some local russians to help from chabad, if he's interested
I know how "touchy" that subject can be, especially for older soviet era russki ludie
how will you handle the distance issue?
Thank You so much!
My dad has always been very outgoing and has a lot of friends in the area.
re: distance issue I have been going there and staying in his house in SF Bay Area
but I had to go back for a while because my husband had Cataract surgeries.
My dad is still resistant to hiring caretakers
I am also a trust executor for him and have a power of attorney financial and medical.
My dad last few months has been also diagnosed with alzheimers and is for sure not himself :(
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Olga, for his own safety, yur father has no choice, especially if he lives alone
sucks for old people, and for you when they get combative
when it's my turn, the only thing I'm lookin forward to is the DRUGS!!!
i'd ask em to just drop the vials off, I got my own rig
the feeling of anticipating 10 mg of morphine
and then when it kicks in
yur eyes roll back in yur head, and you see what appears to be the devil laughing at you
it's the most BEAUTIFUL thing you've ever seen...and you're just so awestruck with wonder you can barely breathe
ML
"Won't Russians be sheeeeeting their pants if USA and Ukraine sign the mining deal ?"
Putin and Trump have talked for hours like high school sweethearts
you think Putin didn't give his approval? of course, he did, so there's yur answer
the "minerals deal" is Trump's usual "media distraction"
they focus on this, which is meaningless, and ignore what's significant, Trump's betrayal of Ukraine and support of Putin
it's so PRECIOUS seeing you try to come up with some spin to make Trump "look good"
NO, Russians are dancing in the streets, cuz sanctions are gonna be overwith soon
and so will the "meat assaults" in Ukraine
go check out Russian TV on Utube and see for yurself, search only for content uploaded in the last 24 hrs
Trump just handed VICTORY to Putin, which is EXACTLY what Putin is gonna claim
HE WON
callin out across Russki Mir
it's changin to a brand new beat
summer's coming and there'll be
dancing
in the street
the'll be dancin in Novosibirsk
down in Volgagrad to
instead of a dumb question, a smart question to ask, if Trump and Putin have agreed to split Ukraine
can this same deal be extended to Iran, where it would be MUCH more lucrative
watch Iran....
you are yet another whiteboy, who needs to have a Jewish advisor to explain stuff to ya in a simplified way
otherwise ya'll run off and fixate on "crazy stuff"
just look at what ya'll have done to yur own country, now ya wanna phuque up Ukraine
I speak "redneck" with native proficiency
and I specialize in consulting with gentiles on anything and everything, I am a professional "fixer" like Ray Donovan
so if ya need "somethin"
like a "Russ Buster" I'm yur MALCHICK
WTF do you Anglo Saxons know about Russians?
"my people" have spent centuries outwitting slavs
not only do WE know Russians BETTER than you
we know Russians better than you can EVEN IMAGINE
my grandparents were Ukrainian Jews
and they learned about Russians "the hard way"
my learning began with them and took me all the way to work in Russia for Russian oligarchs where I made a pile of money
so...I know a thing or two....
i'm not "the usual bear"
Russians were "my oyster"
like Trump, all my money came from Russians
so many in my position fell out of windows or had accidents with firearms
it was close...
they ALMOST got me
was it luck that saved me, or something else
I will never know
a man's fate, is a man's fate
all of life is but a dream
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What about UK/EU support for Ukraine? Neither are particularly fans of Trump and the EU in particular should have concerns about its border near Russia & Belarus. Russia is now running low on Armaments and it's economy up against it. Ukraine really only now probably needs a slow but steady supply of Armaments to stay in the game. To date Ukraine has been destroying new Russian Armaments at the front quicker than Russia can make them.
I just don't see that the EU are going to be happy or even willing to go along with the peace deal put forward by Trump & Putin. Neither I think will Ukraine, the peace deal is likely to propose a loss of land that Zelensky is likely to be against. For Zelensky also there are bad outcomes to signing a bad peace deal after a lot of Ukrainian lives lost and many who are now living in misery because of the war. I just see Trump/Putin not being able to jump the hurdle with their peace deal to anyone other than themselves.
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a rumor is out there, that the EU has offered to replace all of USA money with Euro money
the minerals treaty is NOT the truce
the truce STILL has to negotiated
but thanks to Europe, if the rumor's true, Zelensky has a MUCH stronger negotiating hand
cuz, thanks to Trump, it was severely weakened
supporting Putin, is why Putin pays Elon and Trump
among the many things they do, they tell lies for Putin, in exchange for ????(that's private and confidential, unlike yur social security and tax records that Elon's lookin at)
remember the leaked coversation from Mitt Romney, when he "joked" about Trump being on Putin's payroll
well...
that JOKE is on EVERY MAGA Voter
cuz Putin's interests and yurs are pretty much the opposite of each other
MAGA voters are like the scarecrow from "Wizard of Ozz" "If only I had a brain"
I freakin love them flyin Monkeys
cry "HAVOC" and let slip the monkeys of war
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Apparently the EU looks like they are stepping up plans to fund Ukraine in the war further:
http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-war-in-ukraine-military-aid-package-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy/
Looking like about £20bn at the moment plus yearly funding from the UK of £3bn etc. So good news I think. It's not as much as Ukraine has previously had but that money is probably still supplying Ukraine with Armaments. The slow down in supply of Russian Armaments will also help and I reckon that will probably be enough for Ukraine to last the year out and possibly into next year ax the war slows in pace.
Essentially, Ukraine just has to hold on in it's front line positions until Russia's economy crumbles and Russia has then no other choice but to give up it's war, no peace negotiation needed.
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once the media gets past "the BS minerals deal DISTRACTION" they'll focus on the terms of the treaty DICTATED by Putin/Trump/Musk
without Europe, Putin/Trump/Musk were counting on Trump's abandonment of Ukraine leaving it no choice but to "give in" and negotiating the Truce would be EASY
now with Europe, it's NOT gonna be easy for Putin/Trump/Musk, although Ukraine will still feel the loss of US intelligence support
Russia's intenal economic situation is desperate
if the war's not over this year, and sanctions lifted. Russia's economy will be in a state of "emergency"
Putin is locked in a battle of "Mutually Assured Destruction" MAD
whom the gods would destory, they first make MAD
what a poker game
with Europe, NOW (this week's assesment, instead of last week's) Zelensky's hand is actually better than Putin's with Trump (so far)
Europe gives Ukraine $100 billion (assume this is true)
but Trump just gives Putin "his loyalty" which Putin has to purchase
a very unequal "deal"
and there will be NO restrictions on using this aid within Russia
if the EU is "stepping up" then Zelensky and Europe have outmaneuvered Trump/Musk/Putin
I don't think Trump's Tarriffs will dissuade the EU from Ukrainian support
by eliminating all Ukrainian aid, Trump has taken himself out of the war and that reduces his FUTURE negotiating power, becuz he has nothing left to TAKE from Zelensky
and Trump doesn't give anybody anything, he only takes
so Trump is actually rather useless at this point, unless next week, there's ANOTHER CHANGE in tactics
IMHO, let them fight
if europe and Ukraine fight Putin = then Trump is gonna be VERY UNHAPPY not being the center of attention...and watching Putin's bribes drifting away
Trump and Elon are lying as usual
they DO NOT care about ANYONE dying in Ukraine, or America either
they DO care what they can get from Putin for supporting him
they're opportunists and exploiters who take things others make and then they put their names on it
THEY didn't BUILD ANYTHING...others did
and it's WHY each of them has built a HUGE propaganda media empire to spread their lies about their greatness, that are gobbled up by non-critical, non-thinking people
Steve Bannon and Elon Musk giving Nazi salutes....
and ya'll still "can't figure out what's going on"
well then...if you can come in and work this Saturday, that would be great....
now Putin will want Trump to "lean" on europeans with tarriff threats for supporting Ukraine
this summer in America, you'll hear screaming and bull whips cracking on young folks protesting the King, like at Peterloo
then it will be my turn to offer myself as a sacrificial lamb to The Fox News Military Commander's anti-riot squad sans protection, so the media captures the blood
while Kash Patel's eyes will be twitching, cuz now he knows....
DON'T WORRY
BE HAPPY
even though "THE END IS NEAR" is becoming truer every day
well, my friends, good day to you all, and may God bless you
Krimster II, acting Bishop The Church of Chersonnese, ST Mary's of The Chorny Moira who liberated and brought Christianity to the Sea Monkeys in the Black Sea
Slava Moira Makacque
it looks like two weeks from now, Europe is gonna make the $100 billion "official"
Truce? what Truce?
Trump and Putin will be FURIOUS
the first practical commercial quantum computer will be made of glass
a century from now, there will be quantum computers you can wear on yur wrist and in yur brain pacemaker
one of the capabilities of quantum computers will be a limited form of 'time travel' making time run backwards with negative entropy
negative entropy and powder milk biscuits
pow-der milk pow-der milk
PS
my personal belief is we need a few more weeks (official $100 billion EU announcement) to see if there will even be a truce
Trump tried to throw the game to Putin, by cutting Ukraine's aid
but the EU may counter that
so Putin will not get Ukraine at a bargain thanks to Trump cutting off aid
because of the EU's $100 billion support
so he loses the advantage of a quick and dirty deal from a desperate Ukraine
in reality, Russia is just as desperate as Ukraine
Europe will force Putin to do something he doesn't want to do
negotiate in "good faith" instead of just taking everything
to Zelensky Trump is now a useless distraction and serves no purpose and can be completely ignored
and if Trump/Musk can't get things for Putin, then they're worthless to him as well
everyone will betray everyone
they are all men with no honor, just greedy pricks who after they phuqued everybody else, will phuque each other
if Zelensky, "Dr Z, to his friends, is a smart jew, he'll play Putin/Trump/Musk to divide them from each other
the way US media tried to get Trump to attack Musk
I would SO MUCH like to be working for Dr Z pro bono, as a "strategos"
but he never calls...
Dr Z, i'm also REALLY GOOD at knowing how to phuque things up in Russia "BIG TIME"...in case ya didn't know
paka for now
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a photo and headlines you will NEVER SEE in US media from the UK
"Now That's a Leader - Zelensky Puts Trump to Shame"
in the USA, if yur a celebrity, you can get away with "some stuff"
like Jane Fonda raising her fist, and saying, "Being Woke is about caring for OTHER PEOPLE" such radical ideas....
but NOBODYS like me, have to struggle with censorship in the USA over fear of antagonizing fascists, that management doesn't approve of
just like the Ukrainian people fighting Russian oligarchs
the American people are gonna fight to
and I hope to join them when they do
I feel it...slowly coming...you'll see more signs of this a month from now, cuz it's BUILDING
IT'S OUR MAIDAN!!!
IT'S COMING!!!!
PS I am not at all upset by "hanoi Jane"
she had the right idea, but becuz she was young, she just did it the wrong way
"phuque the army" was classic, everyone I knew in uniform wrote this on their hand at one time or another, INCLUDING ME!
fas-cism comes and fas-cism goes
Daylight come and me wan' go home
it's ever so much back in fashion now
soon there will be Trump uniforms
I hope Trump doesn't find his Leni Riefenstahl
cuz right now American Fascism is pretty dumb lookin - country bumpkin CPAC Hillbilly fascism (they know how to appeal to their demographic)
what it needs is Nuremberg's white Franken Stadium against a dark night sky with searchlights with ranks of party memebers facing the GREAT LEADER
black uniforms with silver skulls all saluting Trump like Musk and Bannon, ALL FAIL TRUMP!!!!
Germans knew WTF they were doin
Hitler began as an Artist
and understood how to make a picture he could sell on the strasse for 20 Marks
that's all the skill he needed to sell his vision to the masses
becuz masses of people are stoopid and gullible
and are more receptive to images than words
PS Uno
it's essential to Trump that he is to be the CENTER of negotiation for Putin, so he has to project his "importance"...even though now he is becoming irrelevant
so if and when the war ends, Trump can take the credit, this is ALL he cares about
"President Donald Trump's press secretary Karoline Leavitt recently announced that the president is "very confident" that he may soon bring an end to the Russia-Ukraine conflict."
stratfied layers of BS that are all bout Trump
PS deux
The current value of Ukraine’s strategic metal and mineral exports from existing production was lss than $100mn in 2024
there aren't $trillions like Trump's claiming
and that $100 million, doesn't include extraction costs, the profits are really small
Trump wants half of that to go into his New York registered corporation for his sons
why does Trump want this New York Corp minerals deal?
because he just legalized foreign bribery
so it'll be TOTALLY legal to drop cash on Trump's sons in Ukraine (but not legal in America)
also, Odessa is part of the deal
you control Odessa, you control Ukraine's transport/imports/exports
perfect place for corruption to pay Trumps, and is perfectly legal NOW
sheet...my father sold me to Israelis, cuz I was a "trouble maker" and all around "pain in the ass" and my family was glad to be rid of me
and like Herod, it's still better to be a cat in my family than it is to be a human
the cats at least will care about ya, cuz ya feed 'em
humans...not so much....
all the world...will betray thee
you will die ALONE and UNKNOWN
ignored by yur own "flesh and blood"
and this is what reminds me that nothing really matters
out of student loans, or treehouse homes, I always picked the latter
my name's "Blurry Face" and I...care what you think,
cuz I live...in a yellow submarine AH-HAH!
we all live in a fascist dick-tater-ship
a fascist dick-tater-ship
a fascist dick-tater-ship
yee-haw!!!
PS tois
once more, thanks to the UK
http://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-video-trump-kissing-elon-973979
whoever did this...thank you
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when a Ukrainian cartoon makes more sense than anything you see on American media about the "TRUCE"
http://x.com/i/status/1893725294227316794
Trump/Musk now has Brownshirts going to townhalls to harass and detain people
Weimar is "so over", now it's the Thousand Hour Reich
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when a Ukrainian cartoon makes more sense than anything you see on American media about the "TRUCE"
http://x.com/i/status/1893725294227316794
Yes a very good summary :(
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the Trump cult, is another Jim Jones suicide Cult
and in America
your town will be Jonestown
MAGA republicans "love America"
they just hate Americans 'not like them'
and that's what's led them to "all fail Trump"
to them, he's "The Great White Hope"
but in reality he's "The Great White Dope"
every Trump win ends in a fail
his whole plan is to GRIFT and LIE
and the DOPE ya'll sold yur soul to, doesn't give a phuque about you
you wanted some Trump to make ya high
but you OD'd and now yur gonna die
RIP
Trump Steaks, Trump Rump
Mar a Lago Trump Dump
A recent UN resolution condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine was itself condemned by just 3 nations
1. North Korea
2. Russia
3. United States
under Trump, the USA is now a rogue state, becuz Trump is Putin's Partner in Crime, thief-in-law, he IS and always WAS this
which the US media ignores, to gush about the BS Minerals Deal
completely ignoring what's important
to focus on the distraction
just like Trump planned on
the biggest problem with oligarchy is that it’s an extremely unstable form of government Average people, realizing they’re being robbed blind, rise up and demand change, sometimes causing oligarchy to flip back to democracy (as happened here in the 1930s in the USA with New Deal Democrats after the oligarchy crashed the economy)
ya'll really need to read Steinbecks's "Grapes of Wrath"
the hollywood film, starring Henry Fonda was brilliant, his role was very effective
no one would make that movie today, cuz the oligarchs who own the media HATE socialism, becuz it's a threat to THEIR ownership of America
the backlash from "average people" is a-comin round the mountain
it's like a giant wave
it starts as a ripple
and grows
once more the UK spells it out for the Yanks
http://x.com/i/status/1893824175082483842
what the American people do "about Trump" in the next 2 years will determine the fate of the country for generations to come
in war
it's not about who's right
its about who's left
In every part of the government that involves the use of force — the military, the investigation and prosecution of crimes, the authority to arrest, the capacity to hold individuals in jail — Trump is putting into power people who are more loyal to him than they are to the United States.
He has purged (or is in the process of purging) at the highest levels of the Department of Defense, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, the Inspectors General, and the FBI, anyone who is not personally loyal to him.
Trump is rapidly gaining a personal monopoly on the use of force. This is his most fundamental goal. This is the essence of tyranny.
On Friday, he fired Air Force General CQ Brown Jr. as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff — the nation’s highest-ranking military officer, as well as the principal military adviser to the president, secretary of defense, and National Security Council.
Trump will use the military to stop the people from dissenting just like Putin
he already has brownshirts
I know what yur thinkin....
"oh yeah, whaddabout Hillary's emails"
you know - the ones Russian hackers stole, and that Oleg Deripaska bribed the FBI to release a "public report about a bogus FBI investigation" right before the election
aka "The Russian Hoax"
lies are truth
war is peace
Orwell told the future, but MAGA voters are illiterate and don't read very much
Trump, rather than being a brilliant politician or businessman, is actually the world's most successful conmen — and our media’s greatest failure is to acknowledge or even tangentially reference this fact.
an old saying, "you can't cheat an honest man"
Trump cheated EVERY MAGA voter, so what does that tell you?
that they're dishonest to
If you recognize that Trump is all about accruing power and money at others’ expense, then you also can see that he will inevitably let down those who counted on him to make their lives better.
In reality — and in stark contrast to Joe Biden’s strongly pro-worker agenda — Trump’s actions will hurt ordinary Americans. The downtrodden will be even more trodden upon.
and once they realize this - they'll stand up, but then they'll be confronted by brown shirts and storm troopers
and this is the next stage that's coming
Ultimately this will come down to our own courage and resolve: To engage in peaceful civil disobedience. To organize and mobilize others. To fight against hate and bigotry. To fight for justice and democracy.
Remember this: Tyranny cannot prevail over people who refuse to succumb to it.
PS
also WHY does China release a new virus, EVERYTIME Trump is president
now we have JFK JR as a vaccine czar? yur kiddin me!!!
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Trump is now COMPLETELY outmaneuvered by Europe, as far as the "Peace Process" is concerned
his sell-out to Putin
IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN AFTER ALL!!!!
Trump just lost a seat at the negotiating table, because of his CON
NOW HTF is he gonna get Putin to PAY HIM?
oi 'tis a fine mess he's in me lads, cuz he didn't think of one leetle detail
http://www.politico.eu/article/critical-minerals-rare-earths-deal-eu-not-donald-trump/
PS
Europe will release the balance of frozen russian assets to Ukraine, NOW
and just THAT will be enuff to keep Ukraine resisting Putin for 1-2 years
enough to collapse Russia's economy
not one of Russia's treaty stipulations are acceptable
Ukraine has no choice, but to fight
because if it SURRENDERS it will be destroyed, and Trump will let it happen, to get the Putin Bonus check
what happens though, if Trump cancels sanctions ANYWAY, just for Trump money
bummer about Don Jr and Barron Trump not getting gigs in Ukraine, as overlords of the Ukrainian people
that they so RICHLY earned
half of Russia's Ammo comes from North Korea
likely arrives in Vladivostok and is stored in warehouses
hope there aren't any accidents
talk to fisherman in the caspian about boats coming from Iran with drones
same deal
this can all be done with pretty small teams
allow me to refer you to "The Cockleshell Heroes"
legendary British SOS commandos who challenged the german merchant fleet in France guarded by the SS
with kayaks and limpet mines
and they WON!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cockleshell_Heroes
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Apparently Trump could not beat the Jew boy.
He should have sent Jared to negotiate.
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jared is a "weenie" my nickname for him is "the poodle"
he's a joke
wearing an Armani suit to a combat zone in Iraq in 2017 with a vest over it, while every other person is in fatigues, even reporters
shows how out of touch he is, and that his background really isn't quite suitable for this (plus made him an identifiable target)
it's easy to be a billionaire when yur father is one
this is what Trump thinks a meritocracy is, a billionaire who inherited his wealth like him
Trump took himself out of the picture, when he miscalculated europe
only one jew that I know of, could bring back something after "it died"
and I doubt he'd want ANYTHING to do with Trump
especially, after the Chinese Bible scam
and crypto currency, he was REALLY AGAINST money scams, like the temple Shekel one
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Oooooooops
Editor's note: The story has been updated with a statement from European Commission spokesperson Thomas Regnier, in which he denied that there is a separate EU proposal for Ukraine on rare earths.
European Commission spokesperson Thomas Regnier denied on Feb. 25 that the EU had allegedly offered Ukraine its own deal on minerals.
"There is no proposal," Regnier said, adding that since 2021, the EU has had a partnership on critical raw materials with Ukraine, formalized through the Memorandum of Understanding.
The day prior, AFP reported that the EU has offered Ukraine its own deal on the country's natural resources, describing it as "mutually beneficial" and a "win-win partnership."
The European Commissioner for industrial strategy, Stephane Sejourne allegedly said he'd offered Kyiv an alternative to that proposed by the U.S. while on a visit to Ukraine to mark the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion.
Regnier confirmed that during his visit to Kyiv, Sejourne met with his Ukrainian counterparts. According to Regnier, Sejourne "reaffirmed the EU's commitment to implement the Memorandum of Understanding," but did not present any new proposals.
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what you wrote is NOT TRUE
Europe's proposal on minerals was made yesterday
it's a 'proposal'
not a signed deal
and it's separate from supporting ukraine, and there is NO quid-pro-quo
europe will give a much better deal to Ukraine than miserly Trump
Trump is now completely irelevant to the war in Ukraine
he's not gonna get attention, he's not gonna get money from Putin for solving his ukrainian problem
so he's gonna walk away from it soon
and tell the media to stop talking about Ukraine
cuz he can't get anything from it now, after he phuqed it up
now he can focus on phuqueing up America
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Editor's note: This is a developing story.
Ukraine has reached an agreement with the U.S. on a minerals deal, Olha Stefanishyna, Ukraine’s deputy prime minister and justice minister, told the Financial Times on Feb. 25.
President Volodymyr Zelensky's office confirmed to the Kyiv Independent that an agreement has been reached.
The Financial Times reported that Ukraine has secured more favorable terms during the negotiations and is framing the deal as a way to strengthen ties with the U.S. Ukraine's Cabinet of Ministers is expected to recommend on Feb. 26 that the deal be signed, sources familiar with the discussions told Bloomberg.
Zelensky will likely head to Washington for a signing ceremony in the coming weeks, according to the Financial Times. The signing could come as early as Feb. 28, a senior Ukrainian official reportedly told AFP.
The final version of the agreement, dated Feb. 24, establishes a fund to which Ukraine will contribute 50% of proceeds from the "future monetization" of state-owned mineral resources, including oil, gas, and related logistics. The fund will invest in projects within Ukraine.
The deal excludes resources that already contribute to Ukraine's state budget, meaning it will not cover operations by Naftogaz and Ukrnafta, the country's largest oil and gas producers.
The agreement does not include security guarantees from the U.S., which Kyiv had initially insisted on.
The latest draft of the agreement drops earlier U.S. demands for a $500 billion claim over Ukraine’s natural resources, which had been a major sticking point, according to the Ukrainian media outlet Economic Pravda, which has seen the agreement.
Under the revised terms, the fund will receive 50% of revenues from Ukraine’s resource-related infrastructure, including ports. Joint ownership will be determined based on actual financial contributions, and while management will be shared, the U.S. will have decision-making authority under its own laws.
The questions of the U.S. stake in the fund and the terms of “joint ownership” will be addressed in follow-up agreements, according to the Financial Times.
Zelensky had previously rejected the U.S. proposal, citing the lack of security guarantees and objecting to the 1:2 repayment structure, which would have required Ukraine to return two dollars for every one received in aid.
The Trump administration has increased pressure on Ukraine to finalize the deal in the past weeks, with Trump publicly attacking Zelensky, calling him a "dictator without elections" and urging him to "move fast, or he won’t have a country left."
Trump has framed the agreement as a way to strengthen Ukraine’s economy while ensuring the U.S. "recoups the tens of billions of dollars and military equipment sent to Ukraine."
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what you wrote is NOT TRUE
I didn't wrote (write) anything.
I only copy and paste from news stories.
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The final version of the agreement, dated Feb. 24, establishes a fund to which Ukraine will contribute 50% of proceeds from the "future monetization" of state-owned mineral resources, including oil, gas, and related logistics. The fund will invest in projects within Ukraine.
WTF does this mean ???
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From ChatGPT
As of February 2025, the United States has provided approximately $183 billion in aid to Ukraine since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022. This assistance encompasses military support, economic aid, and humanitarian efforts.
Breakdown of U.S. Aid to Ukraine:
Military Assistance: Around $65.9 billion has been allocated for military support, supplying Ukraine with advanced weaponry, ammunition, and training.
Economic and Humanitarian Aid: The remaining funds have been directed towards economic stabilization, infrastructure rebuilding, and humanitarian relief efforts to address the needs of displaced populations and war-affected communities.
Additionally, a portion of the allocated funds supports U.S. military operations and bolstering defenses in Europe related to the conflict.
WTF . . . Someone is counting money we use to help defend western Europe as money for Ukraine !!!!
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Trump's PEACE PLAN just assumed Ukraine would surrender when he cut off their weapons and took their money, their minerals and their main port, and Putin could take his share of Ukraine
and Trump will get $$$ from Putin to
THAT IS TRUMP'S PEACE PLAN, that after "stealing Ukraine blind" they'd have no choice but to surrender
and Trump would get The Nobel Peace Prize, a huge fortune from Putin, and a 'bizness' for Barron Trump, who will be a Ukrainian Barron
for Trump, it's a WIN WIN
for everbody else...a "lose"
which is what happens when ya do business with Trump
ask people who were conned by Trump Universirty or BayRock Realty, remember Felix Sater http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sater
or the cancer charity for kids that the Trumps stole from in new york, and as a result aren't allowed to run a charity in New York any more
you can NEVER trust Trump even about kids dying from cancer, without him scamming them
Ukraine...hahaha
a New York State registered Corp as a hedge fund to ONLY develop new projects in Ukraine
NOTHING at all to do with the war, has no bearing on it at all
I'm assuming the "logistics" is about taking control of Odessa
and that's gonna be quite lucrative for Barron Trump, who is undoubtedly a 19 yr old business genuis just like his father doncha know
Zelensky signs this deal, as part of the "you can only flatter Trump when you talk to him" mantra
later, when Trump is out of power, he can rip up the treaty
and he can always block the hedge fund from "doing stuff" with red tape
and these "projects" whatever they be, all take years....
Trump's handling the Ukrainian negotiations almost as well as he handled Covid
it's ALWAYS all about Trump
and you all WILL NEVER LEARN
you are incapable for seeing Trump for what he actually is, a lying conman
because he sometimes says lies you believe and agree with
Trump NEEDS to have wins, especially with $$$, cuz he's gonna cut Elon's taxes later this year
and that'll be part of selling it on Fox
but his plan for Ukraine is gonna work as well as his Jan 6 plan worked
after a few months...Trump will talk less and less about Ukraine
all his other campaign promises are just as much BS as ending the war "in a day"
how absurd is that claim now
eggs are $6 a dozen
Trump's tarriffs are inflationary for the poor and middle class
Trump and the oligarchs don't care
becuz tarriffs are gonna be used to offset their taxes
does ANYONE think we're gonna be better off 4 years from now, cuz of Trump?
NO? then why the hell did you vote for him?
was it really so important screwing over marginalized people that you had to screw yurself over as well?
later...yur gonna see that there is a reson for Trump's madness that YOU have NO IDEA about...
becuase as Trump does in Ukraine, he's gonna do in America
by letting oligarchs privitize the American government to themselves
and sell services to "tax payers"
and if ya don't pay, yur not served...
all whp pay, shall be marked by trump
you've all been told about this, warned about it SO MANY TIMES
yet when it actually comes...yur surprised and schocked
mexicans and trans people aren't the ones phuqueing up America
it's the oligarchs like the ones who caused ALL the financial debacles in the USA
just like in Russia
just like I told ya home boy
and just like Karl Marx told ya almost 2 centuries ago
the fact that Marx is such an icon, should tell ya 'something' about him
if I was a slave, i'd ask myself "why massa no want me to read"
and i'd teach myself
and that would be the first step to breaking the chains
PS
http://www.the-sun.com/news/13627483/trump-us-gold-cards-immigration/
Trump is gonna sell Gold Cards to Putin's Russian oligarchs, the ones who support Puti's war, cuz it's THEIR war to, they are the VICTORS to whom the spoils will ALL belong to
except for the portion that goes to Trump
thanks once more to UK journalists who still do jornalism
all the misery of the poor, created by poverty is what primarily creates crime
and this misery is caused by plutocrats
as documented by Dickens as well as Marx
you wanna blame workers for stealin bread
and not the mill owners who shorten their wages
two centuries ago, whole families worked 80 hour weeks in the mills in Rochdale, near Birmingham
children routinely died from work related injuries, there was NO health care for workers
the whole family lived in a single room the mill owned
and they were paid in a couple of tokens per week tokens only redeemable at the mill store for goods sold at inflated prices
this is the exploitive world the oligarchs want us to return to
and it's WHAT you voted for
to "stick it" to queer trannys
and it's WHY I call you "mean names" and hurt yur fee fees
but I don't DO THIS out of anger
no...I do it out of love
as the "good book" sez, The Lord chastiseth whom he loveth"
and that which is "Done Out of Love"
is "Beyond Good or Evil" according to 'ole Fred Nietzsche, who was the original author of "Superman"
were you never told to love they enemy equally
are not yur enemies just those who are different from you, yet are not opposed to you, nor do they oppress you
so why must you oppress them?
why not live, and let live
why did you need to empower America's Hitler...eh...why?
America's "Culture war" is ALL FAKE
so you ignore the 'real struggle'
which is ALWAYS between the RICH and POOR
and THE ONLY REASON you don't know this
is because you are deliberately kept in ignorance of it by the rich
cuz they control how yur educated and programmed
PS
for the angel said, "should any man worship the beast, he shall suffer the wrath of god"
as an atheist, I gotta tell ya, I do none the less, give credence to biblical prophecy
for reasons not related to religion
kinda like the way, Mario Puzo's "God Father" gives credence and understanding to the mafiya
fiction and myths often reflect reality
the semantic similarity between Hitler and Trump
http://youtu.be/D_HVMzFY6ck
it rhymes
latinos and LGBQT+ are the Joos
the oppressed are also yur brothers
but you are not yur brother's keeper
and you help not the poor, the sick nor welcome the stranger among you
yet...you claim to be godly men
but you lie...just like Trump
PS
The evil menace of Jews....
in 1939 Jews made up 1% of Germany's population
Jews were only "emancipated", i.e. allowed civil rights to property and education in the mid 19th century Germany
yet a few generations later, they dominated finance, and science in Germany and every other thing that required education and intelligence
and rather than use that resource to Germany's advantage, Imagine if the Jews gave the bomb to hitler
or Hitler added the equivalent of the Israeli army to his own
instead Hitler destroyed it
and all the things that Hiler destroyed, directly led to his own destruction on April 30, 1945
but he took miliions and millions of Germans with him
you Trump voters need to reflect on this a wee bit, doncha think?
if Trump leads ya'll to hell
ya'll gonna be the ones suffering and NOT Trump
http://youtu.be/Vupzqjo1QrA
look who is back in fashion
the future is now retro 1930s
hitler and trump share the same charisma
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Donald Trump said on Tuesday that in return for the deal Ukraine would get "the right to fight on"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvg1402yyvet
"What we know about the deal
As we've been reporting, a senior official in Kyiv has told the BBC that Ukraine has agreed the terms of a major minerals deal with the US.
We don't have much detail on that deal yet, but here's what we do know:
Media reports say Washington has dropped initial demands for a right to $500bn (£395bn) in potential revenue from accessing Ukraine's natural resources.
The same reports suggest the US has not given firm security guarantees to Ukraine - which has been their key demand.
Donald Trump said on Tuesday that in return for the deal Ukraine would get "the right to fight on", but didn't confirm if the US would continue supplying military equipment and ammunition.
The US president said he's expecting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Washington to sign the deal this week.
Ukraine's Deputy Prime Minister Olha Stefanishyna, who has led the negotiations, told the Financial Times that the deal is "only part of the picture".
As a reminder, Ukraine holds huge deposits of critical elements and minerals, including lithium and titanium, as well as sizeable coal, gas, oil and uranium deposits - supplies worth billions of dollars."
So will Trump now be satisfied and not so bothered about reaching a peace deal with Putler for Ukraine? If Trump gets what he wants in the minerals deal then maybe that is all he wants and possibly now might drift off to other matters elsewhere in the world. We shall see. Whether Ukraine will get any new military funding as part of this deal remains to be seen. New US military funding from the US would be helpful to Ukraine and unhelpful to Putler of course. If Ukraine can fight on they would be best to do so as Russia has now run out of Armaments to successfully conduct any more Offensive campaigns in Ukraine. Ukraine just has to sit tight and hold it out now on their present front lines until the Russian economy collapses which will force Russia to pull out its troops from Ukraine.
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Trump sez Ukraine can "fight on"?
I'm sure the Ukrainian people will be relieved to hear they have his permission
the "minerals deal" is Trump Snake Oil
how many Trumps will visit Ukraine, when there's a chance they could be hurt by falling drone debris
ZE-RO
AS LONG AS THE WAR IS GOIN ON THERE AIN'T GONNA BE ANY "ACTUAL" TRUMP MINERALS
and soon as the war's over, Dr Z will rip up that treaty
THERE IS NO TRUCE, NEVER WAS....
only Trump's Theater of the absurd
which is irrelevant to Ukraine and to any form of reality
Zelensky understands that Trump projects chaos
and he's hoping that in the chaos he can snatch a crumb from Trump for the Ukrainian people
that's why he's meeting him next week
if only WE could have such a President, who works on behalf of the people, instead of for himself
an interesting reveal about Russian casualties
http://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-war-wounded-database-hospital/33323265.html
get it while ya can
cuz Musky wants to can Radio Free Europe to cut his taxes
Musk, is Trump's Achilles Heel
attack where the enemy is weakest
EVERYTHING about DOGE is completely illegal, Trump's defense will be to lie about the details, while trying to silence critics
I am the walrus,
NEW COUP FOR YOU
there are no eggmen, they died from the flu
PS
yet another update
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-to-cut-off-military-aid-to-ukraine-after-peace-deal-with-putin/ar-AA1zORvL?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=941acf7b387c4fd8ada8618f3d9d6310&ei=77
chaos much?
Trump The Allmighty also allows the sun to shine and the birds to fly in Ukraine with his approval as part of the "deal"
All Fail Trump
if this was a horse race
and after studing the riders and the horses
i'd place my bet on Zelensky and Ukraine to WIN
and keep my fingers crossed
PS
100% because of Trump, Putin thinks he's winning, and this means he ain't REALLY gonna negotiate ANYTHING
cuz Putin thinks Trump is his "Ace up his sleeve"
but in reality he's "The Joker"
when reality sets in for Putin, after Trump fails to deliver...or even makes it worse for Putin...like Trump ALWAYS does
Russia's economic state will force Putin to ACTUALLY negotiate
UNLESS Trump just goes ahead anyway and eliminates Russian sanctions by his divine decree
EVERYTHING that's happening right now IS NOT accidental, it was "engineered"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI7b9UcgQjw
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http://youtu.be/YC-T8qcreSg
I rest my case
i have met the enemy...and he is US
gott is nicht miit uns
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http://twitter.com/i/status/1894838409853600108
Trump to blame Poland for attacking Germany and starting WWII
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Is Trump looking for an escape route here? Says, "Peace may happen in Ukraine or not at all". So looks like he might be paving the way for a U-turn.
http://www.euronews.com/2025/02/28/trump-says-peace-deal-in-ukraine-to-happen-fairly-soon-or-not-at-all
Usually I am not so much a fan of Sturmer, but he seems to have the right thinking on Ukraine at least. That peace must not reward the aggressor. I hope that he using taken in by any peace deal as I think no peace deal can be just for Ukraine other than the Russians agreeing to leave all occupied territories of Ukraine and never to return. That I believe will only come about when Russia's economy has collapsed.
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Trump doesn't know what to do with Putin's "I want it ALL" kinda hard to negotiate around that
his job is to spin it for Putin, and help Putrid get what he wants...
but he can't, cuz Trump also hasn't figured out what to do about Europe, UK, Canada supporting Ukraine
that's his "it may not happen"
I don't see ANY change in Putin's strategy until Europe drops all of Russia's impounded funds into Ukraine's Military budget
THEN you'll see a change
if there ever is a truce, Trump's gonna claim to be it's author, even if he had nothing to do with it
this is how opportunists and conmen like Trump and Elon function
the "Minerals Deal" is all theater, there is no actual deal, it's a deal to later make a deal
and is every bit as fake, as the Epstein files that were released yesterday
it's all for show, "ohhhhh look at the deal maker makin deals"
control people's perceptions, by controlling the media, and you can control what people think
BEEL is a by-product of this, so you can see how well it works
all of BEEL's attacks on me came straight out of the Trump info-sphere
all of it
my bet is still on Ukraine to WIN
the situation in Ukraine HAS changed becuz of Trump
now I see that Putin will NOT ACTUALLY use WMDs in Ukraine to escalate, the WMDs are now only propaganda, this is what's changed, cuz there's an easier choice now
the falling economy is putting pressure on oligarchs who will pressure Putin to settle
Putin like Trump tends to follow the path of least resistance
propagandists will sell the public on Putin's incredible victory
a Potempkin Victory is better than defeat
in reality, it doesn't matter how many ruined villages Putin steals from Ukraine, completely unimportant
compared to ending the war and sanctions on Russia
it ONLY matters to Putin's ego...how many mothers will lose their sons cuz of this...and have no idea why
slaves will always pay a heavier price for being slaves
then the price they pay for rebelling and overthrowing the masters
Russians and Americans need to reflect on this
and decide if freedom's worth the price
or is slavery
and choose
I choose FREEDOM and I'm willing to pay the price for making that choice (cuz I'm a geezer and ain't got all that much to lose)
sometime in the future, I don't know when, people like me are gonna 'rise up' and protest en masse like at Maidan
and when Trump orders the troops to "open fire"
America's 2nd civil war begins, just like Putin wants
one hand washes the other
it ain't Russia vrs Ukraine
it's oligarchs vrs everybody else everywhere
ukraine's struggle is also now our struggle
Viva la revolución
PS
I would so much like to be the Ukrainian joker to serve as their chief negotiator, an insult comic turned negotiator
when Putin demands Ukraine disarm
I'd counter with, we'll disarm, if you stop wearing those ridiculous platform shoes
we'll give you kherson, but we want the Hermitage and all the nearby parking
then, I'd get Dr Z to step in, fire me, and replace me with a REAL negotiator
and he tells Putin, horrosho, I got rid of my pridorik negotiator, how about you get rid of yurs
and start over
http://twitter.com/i/status/1895527936939487722
don corleone meets with rival
"you musta show de godfather respect"
don't ya'll see how sad this is
Trump and Vance lecturing Dr Z about the war
you can't play poker with us Zelensky, cuz we took yur cards
so sign ze paper
the more time it takes for maidan to "get here"
the deeper and broader it will be when it does
the American people will have to "shock and awe" the oligarchs who will shit themselves when they do
it won't be just "white folks" marchin
it'll be the cowboys and the hippies, the rebels and the yanks
along with every color gender bender, and equal opportunity lender
a sea of humanity that becomes a tsunami
the one essential thing Trump and Putin both need
is for the people to do nothing to stop them
Maidan is what it takes to hit the brakes
resistance is NOT futile, just ask our brothers and sisters in Ukraine
soon, it'll be OUR TURN to stand with them to fight the same thing
PS
lies and the lying liars that tell them
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/ukrainian-gratitude-jd-vance-apparently-failed-notice-rcna194285
it's ALL ABOUT TRUMP...
honestly, zelensky shoulda offered em both a BJ on live TV outta gratitude...monetized it on UTube with a 50/50 joint stock corporation for Ukr Media Enterprises
and then laugh at Trump's mineral deal, then lie and say the SBU stole the Trump "Pee Tape" from Putin and it'll be out next week with the REAL Epstein files which has Trump's name on every page
i'd get UTube Premium for that
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Nothing against Zelensky . . . but Donald and his cabal will never negotiate with Ukraine as long as Zelensky is at the table.
A few days ago Zelensky said he would resign if that would help Ukraine's cause.
Now is the time.
Before an election can be held . . . what is the procedure to install an interim leader ?
It was very embarrassing as an American to watch the tag team of 2 against 1.
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that's a BRILLIANT IDEA ML, give Putin EXACTLY what he wants!
this is the same plan Trump has
Zelensky is the only thing really, standing between Trump and Putin's money and Putin's takeover of Ukraine
so YEAH, please do get Zelensky outta the way so Trump can get paid
totally premium plan tovarisch...but for Trump and Putin and NOT Ukraine
really amazed Zelensky's not dead already, only becuz of the many capable people who watch his back
What we just witnessed between Trump, Vance, and President Zelenskyy inside the White House was an ambush.
It was a planned ambush designed to embarrass President Zelenskyy in order to benefit Putin,
and ML's proposal is that based on that ambush, we should just give Putin what he wants
you know...I now totally see why YOU voted for Trump, but you can't see the reason at all, yet ya call yurself a genuis
how ironic
Zelensky is the head MFer in charge of this war and NOT Trump
Dr Z is the "decider", the only thing Trump ever decides is how he's gonna get paid, crypto or rent a whole floor in his hotel with no one actually staying there at double base rate
Dr Z is literally the only reason most of Ukraine is still free, Putin's Dream is for Zelensky to no longer be president
and ML, that's likely how YOU picked up this idea, from some right wing "journalist"
Dr Z, knows WTF he's doin
scare the shit out of europe (with Trump's assistance, you think Trump didn't SCARE THEM TODAY!!! OH - HE DID!!!),
should be REAL EASY to NOW convince Europe to hand over every kopec of Russia's impounded money for the Ukrainian defense budget
get freakin Putin to fund Ukraine and let the war run it's course and give Trump the 'finger'
I know in Arkansas, that Trump is the center of the universe, and ya'll got a LOT of Aluminum in the water
but not so much in Ukraine
Dr Z should shove Trump and cabal outta the way, they're useless to everyone, except Putin, and worse than useless to us
as a member of Ukraine's diaspora, I say don't give Putin or Trump a god damned thing
NOT ONE STEP BACK
this is the ONLY way to an eventual PEACE, that's NOT just a form of surrender that ends with Putin plotting his next takeover, which Trump might make money from as well
that's ALL THIS IS ABOUT to them
those are crocodile tears they weep for the TV camera, about the # of KIA/WIA
is there ANYONE who is such a god damned simpleton that they actually think Trump or Putin or Elon cares AT ALL about this...EVER?
it's just another CON (and the con's not JUST on Ukraine, it's on you to)
when I go to America's Maidan I will be there for the Ukrainian people to
we need MILLIONS and MILLIONS and more millions to stand up to Trump's Army and Putins' too
phuque it I'm READY!
but I know, it's not yet time...
I know that it's COMING, but not when
patience grass hopper
when you can snatch the pebble from my hand...
I kicked that old man in the nuts and then took the pebble and left
BTW, I have NEVER in my life seen Ukrainians as phuqueing pissed off - as I see 'em now...
Trump just turned Dr Z into a kind of Ukrainian Jesus
when it's time for me to go to the battle, I'm gonna carry the Ukrainian flag to the fray and not my own
I just bought it online
just like Maidan which flew flags of many nations in support
I'll be out in the front, with millions of other people of every shade, gender, nationality,
it'll make Jan 6 look like 2 drunks fighting over cigarettes
if I fall, this is the flag I will be covered with as I lay on the ground
blue and gold are my favorite colors
but...
as BEEL noted, if this does not come to pass, I'll make up some excuse...
and segway to something totally unrelated, also as BEEL has noted
but other than those caveats...
crow doesn't taste good, plus I REALLY LIKE crows and ravens
so I don't wanna have to eat one
so Pojouste BOG
please listen to the crys of the innocent in Ukraine and in America to
and not let the fascists do what they did in the past, that I saw mitt mein own eyes
please help us who want to help them
in the past many people have called for you to help them
I am one more voice...please god....
give us the strength and wisdom we need to not JUST FIGHT...BUT WIN
how can you be GOD and NOT help us to fight the great Satan
as someone who don't believe yo is real
I gonna pray for dem ludie anyway, just in case I was wrong
those of us who aint BOG, gotta do our part to
and be part of BOG's Army
even ifn there ain't no BOG, and it's just us, we still BOG's Army
I am the kabbalist who awaits the second coming
cuz seven planets just aligned, at the exact same time, Trump and Vance were humiliating DR Z on TV
BOG's first message to those who can receive it, and I got a BBC License
soon must pay VERY careful attention to all 'the signs' that will start to appear
Chapter 7 - A Tale of Two Cities
As his driver carouses recklessly through the Paris streets, the carriage accidentally runs over a child. The Marquis shows no remorse for the child's death, ...
Tolstoy told ya
that this is all it takes to light the flame
a single event like this
this will be the last piece of the puzzle that falls into place
before the storming of the bastille
Liberty Equality Brotherhood
things that are worth fighting for
and if necessary...worth dying for, when you consider what the world would be like without them
slaves, cast off yur chains and rise up
the only thing you have to fear is fear
have courage instead
Long Live The People's Revolution
Che Krimster (wearing a Rakish RED Beret)
PS
BTW, MAGA knuckleheads
The Federal Reserve said today, that we have started to enter a recession
it only took 5 weeks for Trump to take us from a strong economy, to a recession
thanks to the astute choice YOU made
of course Trump will blame Biden and not tarriffs and Elon
and you all are DUMB ENOUGH to believe it, JUST LIKE YA ALWAYS DO
PS2
kinda lookin over my shoulder, wondering why I ain't been censored yet....maybe Elon laid off The Federal Bureau of Censorship?
so admin, i'm sure ya don't be wantin me to test the boundaries
so why aincha comin down on me like old times, eh
now that Trump got rid of DEI, it's totally legal for me to use the "N" word...right?
and in which case I can also say GOYIM...it's in the Bible...in hebrew means "nation"
arriverderci bambino
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I agree it was an ambush by Vance & Trump in the White House. My guess is that it was already pre-decided by Trump and Vance to ambush Zelensky like that and go at him, with it pre-decided that Vance would kick off first then Trump would follow, 2 against 1.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c625ex282zzt
I think Trump could see that the minerals deal with Zelensky would be problematic as it would then put US interests in the way of Russian interests. That wouldn't go down well with Putler and Putler had likely complained about it. So Trump had already decided before the meet with Zelensky that he had to torpedo the whole thing. Trump's chumyness with Putler obviously taking precedence here.
To be honest it sounds like no bad thing for Zelensky. He gets rid of the peace deal/capitulation arrangements being made and can move onto focusing on winning the war through continuing it until Russia is forced into giving up through it's economy failing. At some point US military aid will tail off from what the Biden administration gave but UK & EU support should be enough now against a Russia who is now starting to run out of Armaments and has an economy that increasingly can no longer support a war.
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http://crooksandliars.com/2025/02/russian-stooge-watters-tells-zelensky-we
this "totally Trump-centric view" is how Fox sees things (compare and contrast with non right wing media, i.e. "librul fake news media")
the world is divided between light and dark, truth and lies
Tucker Carlson did an infomercial for Putin
they ain't gonna tell ya stuff like
THIS
http://www.shortform.com/pdf/house-of-trump-house-of-putin-pdf-craig-unger
or THIS
http://kyivindependent.com/is-donald-trump-a-russian-asset-this-us-author-is-completely-certain-he-is/
Craig Unger Bill Browder are people to listen to, and not the people on FOX
assuming of course yur interest is in the truth
sly foxes lying for King Trump are phuqueing STOOPID
why this here piece of paper, called a "Minerals Treaty" will totally protect Ukraine
why?
cuz it has Trump's name on it, and Trump signed it, therefor this is "conculsive proof" end of story
and instead of falling down on his knees in gratitude, Zelensky was guilty of not praising Trump enough, not showing "enough respect"
in reality, instead of Zelensky praising Trump, it should be the other way round
but it's NOT cuz Trump is Putin's asset who only cares about pleasing Putin for his own gain
even though Trump is in public office, Trump doesn't owe the public anything
only Trump matters to Trump
in reality, Trump's Treaty is just a piece of paper with some typing on it
it signifies nothing other than it being a prop for Trump to lie about to the media, so the world sees how GREAT Trump is
that's the only concern here
the treaty isn't for Zelensky or Ukraine
it's 100% for Trump to claim "he's made a deal"
like Lord Chamberlain did
so he will gain Putin's approval and ka-ching get paid
the people who created this, are the billionaires hiding behind the curtain
it's NOT to keep YOU informed
it's the exact opposite
it's to keep ya ignorant
just look at yur typical MAGA voter here on RWD and see the truth in that
all the things that massa be against
are the things that will help free massa's slaves
and that be why he be against them
de white folks below massa are his slaves to, just like dem colored ones is
the 54th from Massachusetts
Slava Glory...great ending in that kino
as Christ died to make men holy
let us be the ones to die, that makes men free
Christians...
Father, Son AND A Holy Ghost?
WTF happened to monotheism? and when the saints come marchin in...who the hell are they?
IMHO, ya'll just makin this stuff up
I trust religion even less than I trust Russians and Trump's 3 dollar Chinese Bible
PS Maga knuckleheads
we are on a path to have a MINUS 1.5% GDP growth in Q1 at the end of next month
that cost ya hundreds of BILLIONS of DOLLARS
wait until the medicaid cuts kick in later this year followed by the elimination of the department of education
which will cut on average about 25% of the budget from every public school in America
but private schools for the wealthy, will be just fine, please don't worry about Barron Trump
i'm guessin recession, followed by tax cuts to the wealthy, followed by yet another record breaking deficit
Trump is leading you to the Abyss...and ya'll are waggin yur tails followin him
PS
well gol-ly Jethro and Jim Bob
the former Fox News host running the pentagon, declares "Putin is NOT OUR enemy"
http://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning
Given that Trump's cabal did nothing to induce Russia to end the war, it’s fair to conclude that the whole idea of pursuing peace was just a pretext to renew relations with Russia for $$$
Trump ain't NO ALTRUIST, Trump's deals are ALWAYS FOR Trump
http://kyivindependent.com/can-europe-give-russias-frozen-billions-to-ukraine/
c'est question...what's REALLY the obstacle to this
I kinda feel there's something below the surface this article didn't expose, and I ain't used "the Google" to hunt for it yet cuz I gotta wire up my new AI machine
and I'm slower than a jar of molasses in winter
speakin of which...
there was these two moles down in their burrow see
and the first mole, he done climb up to the burrow entrance, stuck his sensitive nose out and sniffed the air
sniff...snifff...hmmm, I smell pancakes!!!!
now, there was a second mole right behind him
he took a sniff to...
and he said "pan cakes, I can only smell mole asses"
moles are kool, they look like mice with claws
mole fur is the softest fur I ever felt, it'd be the perfect material to utilize for making a scrotum warmer
cats are REAL GOOD to hunt moles
I put cat treats by mole holes
stick the hose down their tunnel, turn on the hose, wait fer it to make the moles come up
and the cats finish em
Genuine Mole Skin Scrotom Warmer Made in the USA in small, medium, large, or Krimster sizes
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BOSS! DE PLAN DE PLAN
the hidden reason for Trump stabbing Zelensky on live TV
it's purpose was to do more than humiliate Zelensky
it's to try and manufacture an excuse to get rid of all sanctions on Russia
by lying (what a surprise) and saying that it is OBVIOUS Zelensky "isn't interested in peace"
and if Zelensky ain't interested in PEACE, why that's a dandy reason why we should get rid of Russian sanctions, cuz the war ain't Putin's fault it's Zelensky's
which will be done by Trump's executive directive
Trump needs to do this BEFORE Europe hands over Russian assets to Ukraine
to try and derail it
when EU banking and energy see all the money rolling into America from Putin
they will all run screaming to their parliments to get a piece
I believe this is the path Trump is on
to find a justification to eliminate all Russian sanctions NOW
Trump's AG disbanded the Task Force KleptoCapture, an initiative started in 2022 to enforce sanctions on Russia.
and also disbanded the FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force and pares back enforcement of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, despite years of warnings by U.S. intelligence agencies
FBI and CIA got rid of Russian experts
so it's already beginning
a couple of months from now, Americans are gonna lose track of Ukraine
cuz they got their own problems to deal with
like the $880 billion cut from Medicaid, the largest health insurance program in America
an example of it's "usage" is the fact that 1/3 of chilren in Wisconsin are covered by medicaid
and this cut is to used to offset another future cut, corporate taxes
even this will be lost in the news as well
gloom, despair and misery are the only things on America's menu later this year
bon appetite
http://archive.org/details/craig-unger-house-of-trump-house-of-putin-how-vladimir-putin-and-the-russian-maf/page/n1/mode/2up
are we having fun yet?
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so sorry...this link works better
http://archive.org/details/craig-unger-house-of-trump-house-of-putin-how-vladimir-putin-and-the-russian-maf
after ya read this, go to the search bar and look for more
the first step to take - is to stop listening to FOX and to read "on your own"
and that's what led me to Marx's writing
somone who advocated that the workers should run the country and not the people who put trump in power - worker capitalism - a world without billionaires or poor, pretty radical right?
a national labor union (in the USA it's the AFL-CIO) was Marx's idea, and not Siberian death camps, that was Stalin's
but the same smears that have used against Zelensky have been used against Marx since - like forever
don't be enslaved by lies, READ, and liberate yur mind with the truth
http://twitter.com/i/status/1895910348882133109
this is a REPUBLICAN Town Hall meeting, note the lack of love for Elon and DOGE
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14452163/Former-Fox-News-anchor-Trumps-Oval-Office-Zelensky-staged.html
once more - thanks to the UK
http://youtu.be/CUpOMSJ1MdU
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confiscation_of_Russian_central_bank_funds
allways follow the money....quo bono...if Russia's assets remain in the banks hands....
every single bill that came before congress to do this, died in congress...like S. 536, they all died
can ya guess WHO voted against.....
Dr Z
if you had chosen ME as your stategos
I woulda told ya to make a special gold medal for Trump, honoring him for all he's done for Ukraine's people
hand it to him, and bow
then say, "please help us Mr President, only someone with your great intelligence and vision can get us out of this nightmare, and I think you should get the Nobel Prize already"
from then on, say nothing about Ukraine, except how much every one there loves Trump
Vance still woulda kicked yur ass, cuz that was the plan, but this would make Trump look a lot worse than "playin it straight" like your advisors told ya
"Orange Russian Warship go phuque yurself" is for later
meanwhile, An ally of Vladimir Putin was reported to be trying to restart Russia’s Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to Europe with the backing of US investors
Musk backed calls for the US to leave Nato and create new Warsaw Pact with Putin
direct air travel between the USA and Russia may be restored this month
reports of Trump capitualting to Putin are all Fake News Media like The Russian Hoax
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what did Trump do for Ukrainian people exactly?
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Dr Z, if you had chosen ME as your stategos
I woulda told ya to make a special gold medal for Trump, honoring him for all he's done for Ukraine's people hand it to him, and bow then say, "please help us Mr President, only someone with your great intelligence and vision can get us out of this nightmare, and I think you should get the Nobel Prize already"
from then on, say nothing about Ukraine, except how much every one there loves Trump
Vance still woulda kicked yur ass, cuz that was the plan, but this would make Trump look a lot worse than "playin it straight" like your advisors told ya
A very good idea.
Trump would have eaten it up.
A real failed opportunity.
One of your best posts here.
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it's NEVER what Trump can do for you
it's ALWAYS what you can do for Trump
Zelensky shoulda put some major thought into that
THE ONLY WAY to deal with someone who has an exaggerated sense of self-importance and lacks empathy for others
is to tell them how smart and wonderful they are while thanking them
cuz that's HOW PEOPLE TREAT ME, and how I learned this
THIS should have been the FIRST words out of Zelensky's mouth
how much the people of Ukraine owe him and look up to him
and please "don't leave us"
and grovel before Trump
even though Trump han't done a damn thing for Ukraine
truth is unimportant when ya talk w/ Trump
the outcome still would've been the same, cuz it was an ambush
but my way, Trump would look even worse than he did
100% Trump will drop ALL RUSSIAN SANCTIONS, my guess is in the next few weeks
all relations betwwen Russia and the USA will be restored to pre-2014, including air travel
boat loads of FSB/GRU people with Moscow State University diplomas will be comin for "corporate jobs" in the USA
I used to deal with them in the Houston, GazProm office
now it'll be all new people...if I was still in business...i'd have to cooperate
from now on Trump will be doing EVERYTHING he can to hurt Ukraine
and blame it on Zelensky
half the countries in the EU will cave in immediately after that, Italy, Greece, etc
the other half will be pushed by EU banking and energy oilgarchs to do the same
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was I wrong about ya, ML....
have you seen the light
praise the lord
my son...confess yur sin before us, and you shall be forgiven
note
I will walk half way down that bridge to meet ya
one of the biggest phuque-ups in American politics
was Biden NOT dropping out in early 2023, and tellin Kamala she'll have to run in the primary like everybody else
that REALLY PISSED ME OFF
cuz we woulda had somebody who coulda beat Trump
The Democrats get stuck in a trap when they nominate a non-white non-male candidate,
and they're afraid to alienate their coalition with THEIR candidate's particular base, if they make another choice
and then Republicans play the race card to get white folks "riled up"
and that's ALL it takes to win
there is alway sONLY one way to win
you play to win, and not play to appease one group, cuz ya don't wanna lose their support
that's a weak play, not a strong one
a strong one, you put the A-Team in
this is why Republicans made the "culture war"
cuz gay mexican cowboys is what wins elections in Red States
and not sound economic policies
watch what happens this year when Elon and the Russian oligarchs get together
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even my dad who is a long time Trump supporter realized his mistakes but too late :(
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what did Trump do for Ukrainian people exactly?
Olga, that wasn't the point of Krim's post.
Give Donald a medal and say great (and totally unwarranted) things about him, and Ukraine would be rewarded.
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Olga, that wasn't the point of Krim's post.
Give Donald a medal and say great (and totally unwarranted) things about him, and Ukraine would be rewarded.
yes I understand :(
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was I wrong about ya, ML....
have you seen the light
No, you are wrong 90% of the time.
But unlike you, I am truthful and objective, and can give credit where credit is due, and don't call others names . . . and I can't prepare such long BS (mostly) posts here because I still gotta provide sex to my gal.
And P.S. I have only once even driven through Arkansas like 40 years or so ago. Not even sure if I stopped for gas, to pee, or to eat.
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Olchic
it's NOT TOO LATE
cuz now it's gonna be up to us...all of us...
for Ukraine and America
you will understand what I mean later this year
the flesh is weak
but the spirit is willin
when it's time...
i'll be there
ML
as someone with a form of "high-functioning schizophrenia" combined with autism spectrum disorder (very common co-morbidity)
I have to consider that yur claim of being "truthful and objective" isn't actually truthful OR objective
because all states of mind, are purely subjective
I suspect the 10% approval rating you gave my posts, is literally only for the post where I "praised" Trump...a coincidence...right?
the only reason you disapprove of the other 90% is because they're completely antithetical to your own posts
yeah...real objective....
glad to see you don't suffer from "low self esteem" and instead have a high opinion of yur thoughts
though not as "HIGH" as my opinion...regarless of subject, it's just HIGH man...
note: high-functioning schizophrenia, it’s like having schizophrenia but only the free trial version and not the premium monthly subscription
with medication, especially de sacred 'herb, i'm close to normal , I still see stuff, but a lot less, also much less angry and hostile
EXCEPT TO REDNECKS
seein stuff, is just seein 'different' a byproduct of neurodivergence
I could see the skull at Golgotha, while neurotypical saw a big boulder
when the doors to perception are wide open
nothing can be hidden not even due to erosion
a necessary quality for practicing Kabbalah black magic
can you imagine what I can do there and in the valley of the shadow of death
rhetorical question...sorry...
"and don't call others names"
awww man...you don't want me to have any fun at all...do ya?
"and I can't prepare such long BS (mostly) posts here because I still gotta provide sex to my gal."
you mean, if it weren't for your conjugal duties, i woulda been treated to a redneck treatise on RWD
how disappointing not to ever see that
what a loss to the whole world
especially, cuz I always thought you were only semi-literate like other rednecks
erudite and redneck are antonyms
well...
if it ain't Arkansas, it's either Alabama or Mississippi...
one of them hillbilly places...maybe in the Mississippi River Valley somewhere
someplace where not too many people wanna live
I'm a crypto jew hiding out in a Texas swamp (nobody would think to look there...swamp jews...ain't no such thing...right...)
since the age of 12, I could identify every variety of redneck in "Schwartman's Guide to Goyim" published by Big Nose Magazine
you kinda looked like an Arkansas Wumpus Hunter on page 17 of the guide
my bad
i'm far too handsome for glasses, and my vision's a bit off, sorry...
this is my story, and I'm stickin with it see...no matter how many times you try and trip me up
I know yur really workin for "THEM"
new link, please look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljHdLFQIsM
Trump's Ministry of Propaganda reacts to protest
everything is STRAIGHT 100% out of Orwell now
how many rednecks know that....who is Orwell...was he the first man to fly at kitty hawk
100 times easier to rule ignorant people
and that's why ya'll don't KNOW NOTHIN
PS
looks like the Zelensky ambush on TV, was only the beginning
now FOX is going all out against him
we are 100% on the path to unilateral removal of all Russian sanctions
cuz Zelensky started the war, and Zelensky betrayed Trump
so sez FOX, the voice of redneck intelligentsiya, brought to you by Bubba Trump's Gummamint Gourmet Gumbo made with real Gummamint cheese
served at soup kitchens all across our great nation
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http://youtu.be/57rv-3jxxew
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thanks...good find...
which deserves another in return
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKXh9X8KE0
100% Trump is gonna cancel all Russian sanctions...soon...
my wife's gonna want an aeroflot ticket to Moscva, soon as they're avaiable
thanks to Trump
I could drop my pants and take a dump right in front of the kremlin, and nothin would happen to me now
and I ALWAYS wanted to DO THAT!!!!
it's on my "bucket list"
long time ago I saw this woman have emergency "tomato soup diarrhea" on a forest hike
weird coincidence that she did it on a dead frog
for a minute, we all thought she had a miscarriage
thank you...
don't forget to get yur parking validated at the bar
It's Sunday Night Live at the RWD Comedy Club Spring Break Edition
ummm....isn't it, or did I go through the wrong door
WTF? where am I...who are you people....
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http://youtu.be/57rv-3jxxew
thank you!
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thanks...good find...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKXh9X8KE0
100% Trump is gonna cancel all Russian sanctions...soon...
Looks like it
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why is everyone shocked about Donald Trump’s “mysterious” allegiance to Vladimir Putin?
Agent Krasnov
1987: “Trump Lands in Red Square. The Soviets want him to build two luxury hotels.”
A few months later, Trump spends $130,000 on ads promoting a US withdrawal from NATO.
1987, Newsweek article, a few months later full page anti-NATO ad in NYT
There is absolutely nothing “mysterious” or “shocking” about any of this.
Russians have been infecting the American body politic since the 19th century, when Helena Blavatsky came to America to create Theosophy, while her student, an agent of Tsarist secret service Okhrana, promoted the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” in 1903.
After the Russian Revolution, antisemitic Russian Boris Brasol, an agent of the Russian White Army, came to America and convinced Henry Ford to publish the “Protocols” in the 1920s which in turn inspired Hitler.
this is YOUR History America
but you are ignorant of this, and SO MUCH MORE
Trump works for Trump and corruption fees
the only people you can sell snake oil to is racist ignorant dumb phuques who are legion in this country
Trump the businessman
http://time.com/4343030/donald-trump-failures/
haha
hey ML...how about instead of a gold medal for Trump
Zelensky brings a case of Trump Vodka and a forged Trump University Degree with Trump's name on it
and a Trump Bible...and ask how trump is gonna get a camel through the eye of a needle n Matthew 19:24
and ask Trump if he knows what it means
Mr sharks and batteries will probably give a great answer
PS
difference between livin in Russia and America
in Russia, you can't really order stuff "on-line"
cuz no matter where ya live, the mail isn't reliable enuff
and that was pre-sanctions
same in Brazil, sellers won't even ship there
in America, I can click, "buy now"
and the order is shipped from the closest Amazon hub
and I get it the next day
but in Russia ya gotta "schlep" to the magazine
everybody in Russia is schlepping everywhere, all the time
Russia is very inefficient for Russians
the American oligarchs are gonna deconstruct the American middle class
and privitize the American government to be run for-profit by oligarchs to maximize their power
also, just so ya know, the days of EASILY buying cheap stuff from china, ends tomorrow
the de minimis” loophole is now closed and Chinese tarriffs are doubled
i'd expect that any country that supports Ukraine will get a tarriff as well
russian vendors will be back on ebay
some Trump insider just cashed in
INSIDER TRADING ON TRUMP'S CRYPTO RESERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
who knew and when did they know it
a "whale" a big holder of crypto like David Sacks went 50x long on BTC and ETH, using just $4M to create a $200M position.
He has now closed most of his trades, raking in over $6.8M in a day.
His timing? Perfectly aligned with Trump’s Truth Social post confirming a U.S. Crypto Reserve.
at 200x1, if crypto had dipped even a tiny percentage, which is normal for it to do, then he would have been liquidated and lost his $4 Million
He went long at:
• $ETH at $2,197, liquidation at $2,149.4
• $BTC at $85,908, liquidation at $84,752
instead, he’s cashed out with millions in profit.
Coincidence, or something more?
Occam's Razor
Trump's plan for the United States government to buy exactly the five cryptocurrencies that his crypto advisor, David Sachs, holds.
to do a pump and dump
we will have a national crypto reserve created from borrowed money along with a unicorn sanctuary
but no health, education, or welfare
cuz the people runnin the country now don't need any of that at all
what they need is to make money, the old fashioned way, by market manipulation
and the government is created to serve that need
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Trump will probably cancel sanctions on Russia soon, a bit of a turn around when he was threatening more sanctions on Russia at the start of this Presidency lol, well a phoney threat.
However I am doubtful that Russia will do much better economically as a result of sanctions being dropped by the US. The UK/EU and many other countries around the world will keep up the sanctions and that's Putler's problem. Russia's biggest export is in oil & gas and most of that was to the EU countries, particularly Poland & Germany..So the US dropping sanctions doesn't likely help Putler a whole lot as it's the EU, etc sanctions that are no doubt biting the most. With the US the other side of the world and it's own large reserves of oil & gas in the Gulf of Mexico (America?) and in Texas and no doubt many other places Russia's market there is pretty limited..So the US dropping sanctions probably isn't going to be as big a bonus as it may sound for Russia.
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Trump will probably cancel sanctions on Russia soon, a bit of a turn around when he was threatening more sanctions on Russia at the start of this Presidency lol, well a phoney threat.
Well the guy is a stabe genious LOL He has a secret PLAN he totally knows what he is doing!
As Russians like to say : "mnogohodovochka" (многоходовочка)
Just kidding, this is the same guy who once said "Who knew healthcare could be so hard"
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in Russia, you solve problems by throwing money at it, and half goes to oligarchs, and half of that to Putin
but they ran outta money cuz of sanctions
they can't even afford to pay Trump
so THIS is what Trump's gonna fix
THAT's what Trump cares about
removing obstacles that stand between him and grifting
the Biden stategy was to put Russia on an anvil (sanctions)
and let Zelensky hit Russia with a big metal hammer made in Pittsburg
Trump will take away the anvil
and the hammer
for peace...because he is SUCH a noble human being
if this were chess...zelensky is in check when Russian sanctions go away
if Europe doesn't release ALL Russian sanctioned money to Ukraine SOON then it's checkmate
and that means Europe is gonna eventually surrender to Putin as well, sometime in the future
the West will hang themselves and we'll sell them the rope
was always the Russian plan
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/as-europe-mobilizes-behind-ukraine-it-s-sitting-on-a-218-billion-ace-card-and-it-s-being-urged-to-play-it/ar-AA1A8pSV?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=aadb39b37d744b2cfa3b041c0fdaba8b&ei=6
the outcome of the war - will be determined by european banks vrs europen government's struggle over Russian $$$
ukraine is NOT the only one who wants this money
Elon put a kill switch on the entire federal payment system
so that when maidan comes, Elon can selectively shut down parts of the federal payment system including social security, but not the military that's "keeping public order" for the public LOL
until protestors go home
you don't wanna hurt old people on social security, now do ya
while ML contemplates if he's socrates or aristotle
and the virtues of nitrogen vrs helium for euthanasia
ML, the outcome of yur first Trump vote, was that Trump promoted anti-vax nonsense and ya lost a son
yur second Trump vote is gonna cost ya yur social security income, for "some period of time" which will be exactly equal to the durration of American Maidan
if that's what ya call "genuis" then yes, you are a real genuis
what does it say about the 'nature of reality' when a diagnosed Schitzophrenic clearly sees it
but not genuis 'neurotypicals'
i'm a Johny Nash clone
http://livingwithschizophreniauk.org/john-nash/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash_Jr.
so was my father
I would have greatly preferred to have been an Ogden Nash clone, but no choice was given
the truth is: we're ALL sick men, even those who consider themselves in good health
conclusion: maybe I'm not the only one who's really stark raving MAD
ME NOT DUM DUM, YOU DUM DUM
give me GUM GUM
PS
it is universally acknowledged that the children of the mad detest their father, but ironically will end up being just like him for the EXACT same reason he was
just like John Nash's son
while ML is the kinda guy, who just before he jumps in the pool says, "last one who jumps in is GAY"
and i'm the kinda guy who would block anybody else from jumping in after him, and then I'd call ML a rude name...and ML would cry...and run to his mommy
if you can't "do the time" ML
then don't be doin no crime, like promoting fascism
karma don't lie
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Looks like it
I predict he doesn't before a peace deal is in place but who knows I have been wrong
countless times. We will know soon enough.
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you may be wrong about Trump?
then tell me when you were ever right about Trump's actions, behaviors, etc
I can't see a single instance
Donald Trump is the kind of con artist who would sell a rat's rectum to a blind man, and claim it's a wedding ring and the blind man is gettin an incredible deal
there is NOTHIN too low down for him to not do, he steals from a kid's cancer charity, bribes porn stars he was screwing while his wife was pregnant....and a convicted felon
and you think he has a moral compass...isn't that PRECIOUS....
Trump will 100% sell Ukraine to Russia for $$$
like i've been tellin ya'll for some time now
Donald Trump is the fullfillment of biblical prophecy
christians are now all workin for the devil,
the first time I discovered this was when I called Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, joel Osteen's Mega-Church
and ended up speaking DIRECTLY with "THE DEVIL" who was operating the Gift Shop at the time
I knew right away who it was, I didn't expect it and was schocked to my core
one of the few rare times, I actually felt real fear
so IMHO, you da one doin the Devil's work BEEL...and not me
russians ain't never brought nothin good to America other than refugees
they're repeating their old role of aiding all the dark forces in America
all the poison will rise to the surface now, where it can be seen
european occultism, that was a partial foundation of nazi ideology
like Theosophy and the Order of the Golden Dawn
had Russian roots
like MAGA
Trump and Putin, are not God's choice...
somebody else picked them for their team
so please tell me again, how super duper smart ya'll are
how can that be true, when ya'll don't even know what team yur really playin on
did Jesus tell ya'll to dis the poor and sick and the strangers among ya to follow "prosperity gospel"?
then whay ya'll acting like he did?
who does that really serve then?
BEEL...you may or may not have seen this portion of the Trump-Zelensky meeting, cuz MOST US media edited this portion out
TRUMP: What are you saying?
VANCE: She's asking, 'what if Russia breaks the ceasefire?"
TRUMP: Well what if they-what if anything! What if a bomb drops on
your head right now? Okay? What if they broke it? I don't know. They
broke it with Biden because Biden, they didn't respect him, they didn't
respect Obama. They respect me. Let me tell you, Putin went through a
hell of a lot with me. He went through a phony witch hunt where they
used him and Russia-Russia, Russia, Russia, you ever hear of that deal?
That was a phony-that was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam.
Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff, it was a Democrat scam. And he had
to go through that. And he did go through it and we didn't end up in a
war. He went through it, he was accused of all that stuff-he had nothing
to do with it. It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. It came out of
Hunter Biden's bedroom. It was disgusting. And then they said, 'Oh, oh,
the laptop from hell was made by Russia.' The 51 agents, the whole thing
was a scam, and he had to put up with that. He was being accused of all
that stuff. All I can say is this: He might've broken deals with Obama,
and Bush, and he might've broken them with Biden. He did, maybe,
maybe he didn't-I don't know what happened. But he didn't break them
with me. He wants to make a deal. I don't know if he can make a deal.
this is the person you trust to run things...
i'm curious what he'd have to say, to get you to alter that belief, if his own words, shown above fail to do that
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well Trump just stopped all military aid to Ukraine as I expected he would
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yup...step by step...
from now on, everything he can do to hurt ukraine
combined with everything he can do to help Russia
with FOX lying about it over and over
as soon as Trump cancels ALL sanctions
and Trump and his allies put pressure on europeans to not pull Russia's money for Ukraine
then it's the end game for Ukraine...
this should't take more than a few weeks/months at MOST to be at our door step, depending on whether or not Trump can do this solely through executive action
and since Trump is NOW the constitution, i'm sure it's totally constitutional for him to do so
I would not want to be that poor son of a bitch Zelensky, who is THE ONLY THING standing between Trump and Putin's Money Grab
like I always said, he's gonna be another crucified Jew
Pilate and Putin,
2 P,
Pushin P,
Purple Porsche,
click on the UTube link, don't know why embedding is tweaked
http://youtu.be/CkcsKuMKooo
more gold
this is the summer, the whole world will be singin anti-fascist marchin songs like dis Oirish one
http://youtu.be/OLkPwxcIji0
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Was going to mention yesterday that Trump would probably end aid to Ukraine soon but had to get on with stuff, and so Trump beat me to it lol. Here's one news article for it anyway:
http://www.euronews.com/2025/03/04/trump-pauses-us-aid-to-ukraine-following-disastrous-oval-meeting
As most people are now seeing the Oval Office meeting was an ambush completely set up to scupper the Minerals Deal, stop current US military aid to Ukraine and probably at some point soon remove US sanctions.
You see to Putler stopping current US military aid to Ukraine is most pressing then the dropping of US sanctions. UK/EU sanctions area far greater economic issues than US sanctions as the EU is Russia's main market for oil & gas etc, being so close to Russia and in need of oil & gas.
Now this may sound strange to sone folks but I don't see the US stopping military aid to Ukraine as a bad thing, even as a supporter of Ukraine. I may be proved wrong but in my analysis of the situation it helps to remove a threat to Ukraine. With the US stopping it's military aid to Ukraine and Trump seemingly aligning himself with Russia it removes the situation where Russia can argue that the West, the US are all against it and it's an unfair advantage to Ukraine. That can be important in avoiding Russian use of WMD in Ukraine, if it's no longer seen as a one sided pointless battle by Russia.
The whole point of Ukraine's strategy is or at least should be to drain the Russian economy and military over several years by allowing Russian offensives to continue but checking them as best they can. Ukraine may and is losing small amounts of ground while doing this but the magic is working in Russia being hooked into thinking it is very, very slowly winning the war when in reality it is losing the war with its economy and military degrading over time until it's eventual defeat.
At this point in the conflict Ukraine likely does not need the US no more. Russia's military and it's economic ability to support it's military is now so poor that military aid from the UK/EU as well as it's own home grown Armaments industry should be enough to supply Ukraine's military with enough Armaments to hold on. As a defender Ukraine only needs so much Armaments to hold on as it only needs to sit it out there.
Had Kamala Harris won the Presidential Election it might have messed it all up for Ukraine. She would undoubtedly kept supplying Ukraine with military aid, maybe even moreso. That may have worked against Ukraine in Putler seeing it as a hopeless fight and being checked move to checkmate with the use of WMD's. So although on the surface Ukraine losing US military aid maybe seen as a bad thing I think potentially it may not be the worst thing for Ukraine.
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As most people are now seeing the Oval Office meeting was an ambush completely set up
to scupper the Minerals Deal, stop current US military aid to Ukraine and probably at some
point soon remove US sanctions.
There was supposed to be an Oval Office signing ceremony with the press along to
record the historic event. 100% of the time everything is worked out in advance
every detail is agreed to and there have been zero ambushes in the Oval Office
in front of the press in American history.
Makes sense that the press would believe anything else since their most hated enemy*
is part of the signing ceremony.
*Do you hear those feet running in this direction? 17 posts with 270 unrelated thoughts
per post written in Pigeon English are about to arrive very soon.
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since the age of 6, I have been an a-theist, after reasoning "it all out"
I have no religion
I have learned to reject MANY of the things I was told were true, becuz evidence suggests they are actually false
like religion, and MAGA talking points
reason is what guides me, and not belief
not only can I see what is FALSE, I can also see what is TRUE
my parents tried to coerce me into being "a Methodist" protestant, and not catholic
for my "own good" not based on GOD, but on "social convention"
so I rejected all the social/religious indoctrination they tried to lay on 6 year old me
eventually this led me to Israel, or rather them to me, and then I made Aliyah, cuz they made me "one hell of a good deal" if I was willing to get my hands "dirty" (no, not landscaping)
BEEL, how many pieces of paper has Putin already signed that guarantees Ukraine's "safety"
ya think another one will change things, what a foolish consistancy that is
and Zelensky was tryin to point that out, when Crazy Grandpa lost his mind on live TV, which YOU may not have seen on US media, cuz most censored it for Trump
"TRUMP: Well what if they-what if anything! What if a bomb drops on
your head right now? Okay? What if they broke it? I don't know. They
broke it with Biden because Biden, they didn't respect him, they didn't
respect Obama. They respect me. Let me tell you, Putin went through a
hell of a lot with me. He went through a phony witch hunt where they
used him and Russia-Russia, Russia, Russia, you ever hear of that deal?
That was a phony-that was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam.
Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff, it was a Democrat scam. And he had
to go through that. And he did go through it and we didn't end up in a
war. He went through it, he was accused of all that stuff-he had nothing
to do with it. It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. It came out of
Hunter Biden's bedroom. It was disgusting. And then they said, 'Oh, oh,
the laptop from hell was made by Russia.' The 51 agents, the whole thing
was a scam, and he had to put up with that. He was being accused of all
that stuff. All I can say is this: He might've broken deals with Obama,
and Bush, and he might've broken them with Biden. He did, maybe,
maybe he didn't-I don't know what happened. But he didn't break them
with me. He wants to make a deal. I don't know if he can make a deal."
Great Leader's plan...
oh but this is no ordinary piece of paper, this one has my name on it"
hmmm....impressive right?
this piece of paper is a SHIELD, that will totally protect Ukraine
in fact I call it "Paper Dome"
now that I have personally given Paper Dome to Ukraine
Zelensky can go ahead and
assign captured territory/people to Putin
cease production of all weapons, disarm and no longer accept any military aid
pinky swear it will never join NATO, (cause then Putin REALLY can't attack it)
the treaty is a prop, and is ONLY important for the great leader
as far as Ukraine is concerned, it's a worthless piece of paper
and that's all Trump was gonna give Zelensky for coming to the white house
but because he didn't bow down before the king
the king nailed Zelensky's turban to his head, for disrespecting the king
if you watch the replay, you can totally see the point where Trump goes "ballistic" after just one little comment from Zelensky contradicting Trump's claims
you may have to look abroad for an unedited version, this is the one ya want, whose words I quoted above
not a single MAGA knucklehead can look at Trump objectively, including BEEL
instead they all give Musk/Bannon Zieg Heils
for Trump the goal is not PEACE, it's PIECE, of Rosneft (think how much that'll be worth when sanctions go away)
and a PIECE of City Center for Trump Towers
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As I understood from Trump and his 'anguishers' this was nothing to do with a peace deal.
This was only a commercial deal.
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the commercial deal was the "shield", Ukraine's security guarantee from Donald Trump personally
Putin attacks Ukraine, General Bone Spur will come to Ukraine's aid
just like he did when he got his draft notice
Ukraine will only be protected by a piece of paper, signed by Trump, after it gives up all it's weapons
cuz Putin would never hurt any of Trump's interests in Ukraine, claims only Trump
but of course, the moment Trump isn't there...
it's so PRECIOUS how ya'll think Putin or Trump ever negotiate in "good faith"
Trump/Putin's primary goal is to get rid of sanctions, not end the war
you assume you have to do one to do the other
after checking "the rule book"
I can tell ya that there ain't no rule book
the 2nd goal, is as much as possible, leave Ukraine in a crippled state with no ability to defend itself
while Russia rebuilds it's military, after sanctions go away
to attack Ukraine agian
I guess ya'll just too danged clever, to understand such a simple strategy
in addition to loss of weapons and financial aid
a HUGE loss to Ukraine was the military intelligence Ukraine received from the USA
an irreparable loss, that actually helped make our military stronger as well
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this must be the fifth time I heard, he signed, no he didn't sign....
Translation
because of all the flack King Donald got from his handling of Zelensky, he now has to create spin to alter it
whatever Trump presents at the SOTU will sound like "the cure for cancer and world hunger"
but will be lies, spin and gaslighting, like it ALWAYS is
and instead of being about peace in Ukraine, will be all about the greatness of Donald, and the horror of Biden and libruls
Europe is getting closer to handing over Russ-bucks
holdouts are German and French banks.....waaaaaaahhhhhh....money go bye bye.....
here's the Oirish press
http://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/jd-vance-zelensky-ukraine-russia-34790649
"zelensky doesn't want peace" and that "he considers himself to be deserving of privileges or special treatment.
like Zelensky was a liberal or 'somethin'
even though, of all the people in that meeting, Zelensky was THE ONLY ONE who wanted peace, cuz he's the only one who has PERSONALLY seen massacred Ukrainian civilians
what the republicans REALLY want is for Zelensky to surrender Ukraine to Putin, same as what Putin wants
this is the only peace they're after
and PEACE will bring PROSPERITY!
to Trump
they serve Trump, not the people of America, and certainly NOT peace
why do you think the military leadership is swearing loyalty to Trump and not the Constitution following fellow congressional republicans who do the same?
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I think it's very possible that Trump and Vance attacked Zelensky and cut off aid to Ukraine as a ploy to make Putin think Trump is being hard on Ukraine. I'm not holding my breath, but I think it's very plausible.
I also think that cutting off Ukraine aid will be challenged in court, and a judge will rule against Trump. A President does not have the power by executive order to overturn acts of Congress that were signed by a previous President. He doesn't have the authority to stop military aid that Congress already approved, and Biden signed. (He might have the ability to stop aid in the form of military intelligence, unless that was funded in previous Congressional aid that Biden signed into law.)
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brilliant analysis, first rate
you get it
Putin is peace-loving. ...cuz he would prefer to take over Ukraine unopposed, without force
while Zelensky is in opposition to this, and so is in opposition to peace
just like Orwell said
war is peace, peace is war
but...
just noticed...yur profile sez "NONE yet" for trips
are you tryin to tell me, you didn't even ONCE try goin to Ukraine?
not once...
just made a few "pay per letter" attempts that went nowhere, that took ya 20 minutes to write
you quite the 'playa' holmes...
with all them Jordan Peterson vids
but when it comes to "boots on the ground" not so much playin then
and this applies to all the other details of your life
you a talker, and not a "doer'
Bee Farmuh
Bullshit Talks...Money Walks....I fly First Class
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BEEL, how many pieces of paper has Putin already signed that guarantees Ukraine's "safety"
I do not approve of the way Trump handled this. First of all, you don't have a signing
ceremony in the White House with press UNLESS you have the details worked out
and negotiated ahead of the signing.
Trump had the cart in front of the horse. In my mind he F#cked up.
Having said all of this, Zelensky shouldn't have done it either. If he didn't like the
deal exactly as written (every word) he shouldn't have been there. If they were
going to negotiate anything that should be done behind closed doors without
camera's or reporters. Any signing ceremony is done then there is complete
agreement in every respect.
Zelensky shouldn't publicly say anything bad about any of the participants except Putin.
If you want to throw North Korea in the mix that's fine. They both displayed exactly the
way NOT to do this.
This was a colossal Sh!t Show.
I explained how I would do it. Send 200 F-16's to Poland but don't say anything. Russia
would know they were moved there. Without saying anything to the press it would give
some leverage to Ukraine's bargaining position without creating a public threat to
Putin that would have to publicly respond to.
The UK should have sent their supply ship to Gdansk. Then moved everything overland
on Trucks or trains.
That's my two kopecks
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Trump was the showman, it's his show - direct yur criticism there
Zelensky did EXACTLY as you suggested, negotiated out the part about Ukrainians being indebted for 10 generations for what was GIVEN to them by congress and Biden
the blow up on live TV came from Zelensky saying "you can't trust Putin"
when Zelensky said that, Trump went ballistic and gave his little temper tantrum I quoted in a previous post
you kinda have to address Trump like he's Louis Farrakan call him "honorable" "great" "wise" "god-like"...which to be fair...Zelensky really didn't do any of that
that was his phuque-up
Trump doesn't have "a plan for peace"
he has a plan "to get paid" by Putin for services rendered
just like Orban has
so in reality, it doesn't matter at all what Zelensky does or says, becuz, if he has to, Trump will figure a way around it, so that he gets paid
thus Ukraine's future is of no direct importance to Trump
it's just a means to an end
for what's important to Trump
which is to use Ukraine and the war, as a means to coax money from Putin into his own pocket, like he has, so many times before
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Cutting off US aid is probably too late for Putler, already the tide is turning against the forces of Putler on the battlefield:
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/lacking-drones-and-manpower-russian-troops-wearing-down-in-pokrovsk-direction/ar-AA1AfPLv
Putler can no longer take Pokrovsk, as the article states Russian forces are now lacking in Armaments to do so and if anything are being pushed into retreat in some places. Probably not long before the whole of the Russian Army comes under strain off a lack of Armaments and just struggles to hold onto the positions they have. By this Spring/Summer coming up shortly the stories we could be getting from the front in Ukraine could be very different. We could soon be hearing much I think about how Russian forces are lacking in any sort of Armaments or equipment at the front and are becoming in a poor state.
Meanwhile the British Government has announced that it will supply Ukraine with increased air defence missiles from its factory in Belfast. My guess is that Ukraine will have other avenues for Intelligence from the UK/EU to help it in its battlefield operations. Essentially though the cutting off US military help looks like it has fortunately come too little and too late for Russia.
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In general I don't participate in political discussions.
But I wrote parts of this as an answer to a mail from a participant here.
Then just post it here instead.
The Ukraine mineral deal is sort of a scam,
Maybe Trump is using it as a warranty that USA has interests after a peace deal.
When hearing about the mineral deal, I was very surprised.
The reality about rare earth metals,
and the reason China is supplying almost 100% of the worlds consumption.
It's price,,,,
Having rare earth minerals in the ground and processing them for a profit is not the same.
Sweden has a lot of these rare earth metals, (Norway also)
and several of them are named after Swedish villages,,
as Swedish scientist were the first to discover them.
But mining them would be much more expensive than buying,,
Same goes for Ukraine, about rare earth metals.
Situation for mining Uran, Lithium and titanium is better, but not realistic today.
(and 60% are in the Russian controlled area)
I made a search and found two youtubes directly, that names it a scam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tILXLxMTmgA&t=379s/ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tILXLxMTmgA&t=379s/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya9WKaveRXU/ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya9WKaveRXU/)
I haven't looked at them,
But I have looked at one other of the "Inside China Business" videos some time ago,
and bookmarked him as serious.
Trump is, as president in the absolutely strongest nation in the world,
for a period,, "King of The World"
With power to change the fate of more humans than any man before him.
It's hard to understand, what is the masterplan behind some of Trumps actions.
Probably much more behind the curtain than what is visible for us.
Certainly some of those onboard with him, have minds of reason.
His economic "advisor / copilot" Stephen Miran is no idiot, neither is Trump.
Miran has some untraditional economic ideas, to say the least.
Time will tell,,,, if it fails or not,,,
One of the interesting videos of what is happening in the worlds geopolitic situation today.
And much in line with my own thinking,,,,
"George Friedman: Trump, Putin and Changing Global Realities"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knLXnai3Mk/ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knLXnai3Mk/)
It doesn't look very good for Ukraine today.
The future for what remains of Ukraine after the war however, will be very good.
Large investments from the west, money and IP is flowing into Ukraine now,
and will continue for years to come.
Creating a foundation for more tech companies (where Ukraine is already very strong)
especially in the new emerging HiTech weapons industry based on AI and drones.
Where Ukraine is now leading because of the war.
Now is the time to invest in a coastal property, in or close to Odessa,,, :-)
Did some research on the history of Trumps life, and what has made him into the person he is today,,
Interesting to say the least,,
Did you know that he was a "close" friend of Nixon for more than a decade,
and was invited home for dinner together with him on several occasions
Jan
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Trump's "dirty trickster" Roger Stone, has a huge tattoo of Nixon on his back
Nixon's most famous quote "I am NOT a crook" haha
Trump's mentor was fellow New Yorker Roy Cohn
this is the person who trained Trump and made him what he is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn
the "Minerals Deal" is Trumps's equivalent of the piece of paper Chamberlain waved in front of everyone, which said, "Peace in our time!"
Chamberlain did this pro bono
Trump is getting paid for it, and as a bonus, expects to receive the Nobel Peace Prize
Sweden better give it to him, or after Denmark and Greenland" he's gonna go after Gotland
this is about the only REAL difference, because Trump is 100% transactional, "show me the money"
and Chamberlain was just an idiot who wasn't paid
thanks for the Friedman clip, I read some of his publications, years back, i'll give it a look
this is a REAL GOOD time to be too old to be drafted
a very contrarian view buying real estate in Ukraine NOW
same with the Russian stock market, that can only be accessed with a UnionPay Broker account
a small portfolio of Russian oil and gas stocks
to balance a cottage in the Carpathians, not far from the Hungarian Border
soon as I cross, I say "youragert kvonook" Hungarian is a very unique European language
the Hungarian countryside looks like Ukraine, but the people don't look Ukrainian
all you europeans are "overthinking" this with yur geopolitical analysis
a simpler way to perceive it
Trump IS a liar and a crook
who was placed there by oligarchs to do their work
who is in alliance with Russia's biggest oligarch who is even richer than Elon Musk and is also a liar and a crook
Ukraine's ultimate future is that it's going to be divided
that's why I pick the Hugarian border region, cuz in the future it'll become part of Hungary, thanks to Orban's deal with Putin
I will be in Hungary
not because I will cross the border, no the border will cross me
then I haz EU citizenship, and I can ride trains all 'round Europa...
and can live in Amsterdam as an EU citizen
Hungary will have to make a language exception for Ukrainians, and I can sneak in with that
easy peasy for wife and me to become Ukrainian citizens
cause it's OK, to live like a refugee...
the US military is not as stong as people believe
it was hollowed out just like Russia's
and is extremely vulnerable to mass produced chinese AI guided missiles
so many, that it darkens the sky
and NO, the US Navy will not "fight in the shade"
PS
http://youtu.be/k3jxxYG0TuU
war is peace
only Trump wants peace
Zelensky wants war
Trump good - Zelensky bad
Tulsi Gabbard's voice is like Kari Lake's, and Elizabeth Holmes, the female baritone grifter voice, which to me is super sexy, and why Trump likes it
the voice is how they get the job of being a Trump whisperer
propaganda is an essential element of fascism
image is EVERYTHING, so there is no substance
guaranteed, that whenever FOX says, "the truth is..." whatever follows is gonna be an absolute lie
PS
Ukraine is not dead, yet...
if German and French banks can be convinced to let Putin's confiscated $Billions be the treasury for Ukraine's defense
it would be very much alive
http://www.cnn.com/2025/03/05/politics/us-pause-intelligence-support-ukraine/index.html
Trump disciplines Zelensky to not pee on the floor again
while HE'S WORKIN FOR PUTIN
bad dog, yur NOT gonna know when the Russians kill all yur people now...so ya better learn to be good
or next time, I'll hand ya over to Kristi Noem...as he rubs Zelensky's nose in the urine
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http://www.the-sun.com/news/13694373/trump-bans-britain-ukraine-war-intel/
this is Trump doing EVERYTHING he possibly can to hurt Ukraine...cuz that's what Putin pays him for, like Victor Orban
Trump's anti-NATO sentiment was made public when he published an anti-NATO screed, immediately after his visit to Moscow to get into the Real Estate Market back in the 80s
Trump didn't publish this for Trump, he published it for Russians...who in return....do stuff for Trump
Trump also wants to end refugee status for Ukrainians
they all need to immediately return to Ukraine and dig rare earth minerals for UkrTrumpCo
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/3/6/2308343/-Trump-targets-Ukrainian-refugees-plans-to-revoke-legal-status?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
Trump's people are also privately meeting with Zelensky's political enemies in Ukraine
why is it sooooo hard for ya'll to believe
that Trump's "Peace Efforts" are all fake "Reality TV" that ya'll mistakenly think is REAL
corroborating evidence for this theory
32 felony convictions for fraud
Trump organization charged for their business fraud, CFO convicted
Trump Casino laundered Russian Money, and Trump was fined $10 million
Trump Towers WAS heavily involved in Russian money laundering
Trump stole from a kid's cancer charity, and is banned form operating charity
Russians ALWAYS try to help Trump win elections
Trump tried to steal the election in 2020
Trump University
and on and on and on and on.....
is it just me?
am I the only one to see a pattern here?
ya'll need to watch the movie "Moneyball"
then think about Trump and the "game" he plays
and stop being a freakin moron
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now Ukranian refugees will lose leal status
http://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plans-revoke-legal-status-ukrainians-who-fled-us-sources-say-2025-03-06/?fbclid=IwY2xjawI2q49leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHfZ7QYhp6Ff13dUjzk8lbzcVjVs2LFXdb4u1bKIYeHV4tb5uL_S0XSzSUA_aem_ZCphghB9QQZDwsvZfNL3vg
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Anyone needs more proof that Trump is just anti Ukrainian? or are his supporters still hoping it's just some genious plan we dont know about?
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If Trump is preparing to revolve Ukrainian refugees status then they need to get with a US guy to stay in the country. Plenty of opportunity there for our Beefarmer ;D
On a separate note the French apparently have military intelligence they are willing to share with Ukraine on its war efforts:
http://www.euronews.com/2025/03/06/france-to-continue-sharing-military-intelligence-with-ukraine-after-us-freeze
My guess is that if the UK, France, probably Germany, etc share military intelligence with Ukraine then Ukraine may not be so penalised by the loss of US military intelligence.
The move by Trump to try and coerce Ukraine to Putler's peace may just backfire I think. If Ukraine, the EU and the UK end up less dependent on IS support and instead the withdrawal of US support ends up enabling these three powers to work together and develop their own totally independent military apparatus then UK/EU/Ukraine may become highly powerful and come out on top. Russia in some ways may be the perfect catalyst to bring that about. Russia is much weaker now and doesn't have a lot left in it, it's advances in Ukraine are beginning to stall now and they weren't big advances before. Ukraine just needs the confidence to carry on without the US and foster greater co-operation with the UK/EU instead.
Russia can be defeated.
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Trump's people are also privately meeting with Zelensky's political enemies in Ukraine
I still say it would be best for Ukraine if Zelensky steps down.
Not concerned at all if that's what Russia and Trump wants.
Best for Ukrainian people if he steps down.
Trump would then move ahead much quicker with any help or deal for Ukraine, and Russia 'might' not be quite so demanding.
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"Trump would then move ahead much quicker with any help or deal for Ukraine"
why do you think Trump WOULD EVER DO THAT, under any circumstance?
"and Russia 'might' not be quite so demanding."
why do you think Putin WOULD EVER DO THAT, under any circumstance?
Putin and Trump HATE Zelensky, because he's the only thing standing between them and their BIG PayDay
Putin's hostile mafiya/oligarch corporate takeover of Ukraine - murder and execution instead of merger and acquisition
and yur solution, is to get rid of Zelensky so that Putin and partners get paid
Ukraine to give up one of it's most important assets
in return for nothing
and end up with a pro-Russian politician surrender monkey like yanukovich to replace Zelensky
totally genuis plan....for Putin and Trump....
PEACE = Ukraine surrenders
and that's why even Zelensky's political rivals vetoed this plan, as Trump's people pitched it to them this week
http://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-opposition-elections-poroshenko-zelenskyy/33338598.html
there is but ONE WAY to "negotiate" with Putin
which I thought ya'll learned back in the 30s with Adolph
you "praise the lord, and pass the ammunition"
if only somebody would turn that into a 'snappy' little tune
the outcome of this war is now in Europe's hands
6 months from now, nobody in the USA will be talking about Ukraine
cuz MUCH bigger problems closer to home will dominate people's attention instead
this month will determine Ukraine's future vrs $200 billion impounded Russian assets
I always told you rednecks, that the war will not be won or lost on the battlefield
at the moment, the primary field of battle is in European banks' boardrooms
Putin has Zelensky in check
if Zelensky gets the $200 billion then Putin is in check
I wonder if any bankers will fall out windows, or is the $200 billion it's own carrot for them to keep FOR Putin
Everything Will Be Revealed....soon...
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Trump would then move ahead much quicker with any help or deal for Ukraine, and Russia 'might' not be quite so demanding.
I seriously doubt Trump even WANTS to help Ukraine. He is a big baby and is all about personal vendettas.
White House denied they want to deport refugees btw, they said it's under consideration but the decision hasn't been made yet.
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krimster is correct. We WILL have bigger problems
Apparently history doesn't teach people anything
Here is how tariffs "helped" us during great depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%E2%80%93Hawley_Tariff_Act
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spossiba olchik!!!
every "Introduction To Economics" text book published in the USA since 1950 will have a chapter on this
so THEY know
but that's NOT the only thing they know....
create a disaster, and then to fix the disaster, you screw citizens to favor the rich and powerful
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine
The goal of Trump supporters, is to spread Trump "disinformatze" to reduce resistance to Trump, until no other voice but Trump's is heard
people like BEEL, who are in the Trump Cult, are there to "spread the gospel of Trump"
BEEL doesn't worship GOD
He worships the BEAST 666
"The Shock Doctrine book" argues that several man-made events, including the Iraq War, were intentionally undertaken with the goal of pushing through these unpopular policies in their wake.
Ukraine is just one of the little details
as an unapologetic Marxist, who HATES GULAGS
Trump's Economic Policies are Class Warfare 101
but since NOBODY in America, actually knows "what means Marxism" and Fox News sez Marxism = Satanism combined with Pedophilia
ya'll ain't got no clue about it
cuz very few people in America are ACTUALLY educated
they just know hwo to pass the test that sez they are
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krimster is correct. We WILL have bigger problems
Apparently history doesn't teach people anything
Here is how tariffs "helped" us during great depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%E2%80%93Hawley_Tariff_Act
There are no similarities to Smoot Hawley with what Trump is doing. Smoot
Hawley was imposed merely to protect American industries from foreign
competition.
Tariffs have so far been Carrot/Stick negotiating tools.
Trump has raised the specter of Tariffs repeatedly to get countries to stop an
action or to do the right thing on one issue or another. In the end, the tariffs
were removed after the country did the right thing. E.G. take their criminal
illegal aliens back (Colombia) or to put 10,000 troops on the border (Mexico)
The SH dutiable tariff rate peak in 1932 was 59.1%. So our European
trading partners reciprocated with matching tariffs of their own.
Trump also said he would impose reciprocal tariffs. That means we would match
European tariffs to our goods. So if France has a zero tariff on our wine then we
would have zero on their wine.
The Smoot Hawley tariffs were not imposed as a carrot/stick or to equalize our
tariffs with the European tariffs.
Krimster is hyperventilating about his perceived Anti-Christ Donald Trump. I am
factually responding which means he will vomit a post with 89 totally unrelated
points in his pigeon English.
I think that you would have to do some creative mental gymnastics to relate
Trump tariff policy with Russia's criminal invasion of Ukraine.
[Edit to add] Krispyboy didn't need me to post for him to start playing with his
own poop.
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Trump said....
when has what "Trump said", ever once been true?
Tarriffs are an alternative to an income tax
Trump wants to reduce taxes on oligarchs and replace it with tarriffs of the same amount. paid for by the poor and middle class
then cut health, education, and welfare spending to reduce taxes on oligarchs even more, also paid for by the poor and middle class
and get rid of any health/environmental regulation that costs oligarchs money, and the health/environmental costs will be paid for by the poor and middle class
AND THAT'S THE TRUTH...or is it merely a coincidence....
Trump wants to do everything he can to help Russia
and everything to hurt Ukraine
and in view of his past, receiving substantial sums from Russians
leads me to believe Trump is favoring Putin, pursely for his own gain
AND THAT'S THE TRUTH...or is it merely a coincidence....
maybe they ARE NOT coincidences at all...
you love strawmen BEEL, cuz the only time you win a fight is with them, and NEVER ONCE with me
the irony is how ya call yurself educated, cuz ya can access wikipedia
pretty obvious to me, how "educated" ya are, yur High School really let ya down man...
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Trump said....
when has what "Trump said", ever once been true?
The Dem's (yourself included) have been running around with their hair on fire
ever since Trump was sworn in. Has it been working?
My time is up. Enjoy your evening.
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da!!!
EMERGENCY! EVERYONE TO GET FROM STREET!!!
my hope, and really the World's hope
is for there to be an American Maidan
my belief is it's the only thing that will save us
I was so freaking angry when David Sacks, who is Trump's crypto guru
took a giant crap all over Maidan, called it fake, called it everything but "a revolution of dignity'
to serve Trump and Putin
serving Trump and Putin is all that matters to him
cuz his hedge fund depends on it
I think he'll like the American Maidan, much, much less than the Ukrainian one
when Maidan comes BEEL, watch for me on TV
I'm the really handsome gentleman carryin the Ukrainian flag
can't miss me
and neither will the FOX NEWS Host who commands Trump's army
what fascists absolutely rely on
is for the people to be static, do nothing...to oppose them
and the people need to do the opposite of that
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Ukraine doesn't need to do any deal with Russia, it's the worst thing ever for them. It would be handing Russia a victory when they are starting to lose the war.
Recent news on the ground from Pokrovsk and Russia is big doing well:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/03/5/7501426/index.amp
As predicted Russia's ability to conduct offensives around Pokrovsk is falling as they run out of Armaments. The graph in the above article is key here, it shows a noticeable fall in offensive attacks by Russian forces near Pokrovsk.
Russia is essentially running out of capability to conduct offensive campaigns as their Armaments supply slows down from its useable Soviet stockpiles having been largely exhausted now.
Offensive attacks will probably continue by Russia but they will lack the Armaments needed to make any of then successful, so they will be a forlorn hope by Russia.
Ukraine now just needs to hold the course and sit it out where they are at the front until the Russian economy implodes. That's the point if not before when Russia will have no other choice than to give up in Ukraine and it's military return home.
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Is there another thread for tariffs ? Let's keep this one as it says Ukraine.
I have heard from some and I still say: IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR UKRAINE IF ZELENSKY STEPS DOWN.
I DON'T CARE IF TRUMP WOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT IT, I DON'T CARE IF PUTIN WOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT IT . . . IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
I ADMIRE ZELENSKY, BUT THAT IS IRRELEVANT . . . UKRAINIAN PEOPLE WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF HE STEPPED DOWN.
There have been many, many instances in history where two sides suddenly made progress when there was a change in one or both leaders. Change in leader(s) gives 'cover' for one or both sides to come to agreement since that 'idiot' is finally not involved.
I'll start with just one example:
Reagan replaces Carter . . . Iran quickly releases hostages.
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"Reagan replaces Carter . . . Iran quickly releases hostages."
father pays ransom, kidnapper quickly releases his daughter
were you asleep during "Iran Contra"???
Iran released hostages becuz Raygun bribed them with weapons to do it
Zelensky isn't the obstacle for peace....
who is?
Putin and Trump
you replace Zelensky, you surrender Ukraine
you say, Ukraine should do what Russia wants
cuz that surely would work
this is EXACTLY what Trump told Zelensky
and when Zelensky said, "you can never trust Putin"
is when Grandpa had his epic melt down
HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE GREAT LEADER - by getting between him and Putin's bribes
so yeah, replacing Zelensy, will OF COURSE be your solution as well as Trump's and Putin's
I'm curious which right wing web site is feeding you this BS
or is this something you've developed on yur own?
giving Hitler what he wanted, didn't work did it?
and by some miracle you think doin the same for Trump/Putin will?
becuz.... trading Iranian hostages for weapons worked
so trading Zelensky for nothing will also work
this is defective deductive reasoning at it's finest
you white boys are funny
seriously, aincha got ANY jews in yur area you can talk to and "find out stuff"
am i the only one of "God's chosen" ya are even in slight contact with, so everything I'm tellin ya is a surprise?
Dear White People
why ya'll "this way"
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UKRAINIANS WILL BE BETTER OFF IF ZELENSKY RESIGNS.
I DON'T CARE IF IT MAKES TRUMP HAPPY AND/OR MAKES PUTIN HAPPY.
UKRAINIANS WILL BE BETTER OFF.
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if there was even a 1% chance of that being TRUE (which there isn't)
Zelensky would've already resigned
yur thinking is too polarized, like Polaroid lenses, it filters out everything you look at
Zelensky leaving will in NO WAY help Ukraine
how? he's not the problem, so this can't possibly be the solution
but you BELIEVE otherwise, without a single piece of evidence to support it, other than "you say so"
which, to be fair, IS what Trump says as well
and you get just as mad as he does, when some JEW, who knows WTF he's talking about, corrects you
i'm not THE ONLY one who disagrees with you, the majority of Ukrainians do as well
but they don't count at all to you or Putin or Trump
you've shown me WHO ya are ML
I believe ya
so you can stop this nonsensical attempt to conceal yur true motives for these "beliefs"
that lack any supporting evidence, other than right-wing BS and wishful thinking
it's NOT WORKIN and it bores me to tears
becuz, it's so transparently false
just like you are
one of the greatest challenges you rednecks all face
is to understand that yur all 'a bunch of simpletons'
it wounds yur ego to feel that
and that's why you cling to stupidity, cuz of the certainty it provides, allows ya to feel OK about yurselves
note: I am a fully licensed Dairy Psychiatrist, specializing in the treatment of Redneck associative disorders and 100 % organic California Cheese
combining Psychaitric out patient services with dairy delivery is an efficiency, cost saving measure approved by DOGE
http://youtu.be/BhPwC3MDDKs
Hail Trump
all you rednecks wanted to throw brown and trans people under the bus
and ya still don't realize....
that later this year, yur going under the bus as well, cuz after ya helped the oligarchs get rid of those groups
they're gonna finish off EVERYBODY else below them...including you...and who will stand up for you? it won't be trans, or brown people, or me either
and ten years from now ya'll will wish it was a bus instead of a steamroller
bon appetite
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I PERSONALLY LIKE AND ADMIRE ZELENSY, BUT . . .
UKRAINIANS WILL BE BETTER OFF IF ZELENSKY RESIGNS.
I DON'T CARE IF IT MAKES TRUMP HAPPY AND/OR MAKES PUTIN HAPPY, OR IF IT MAKES THE POPE HAPPY.
UKRAINIANS WILL BE BETTER OFF.
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Zelensky should resign
Ukrainians disagree....
but we shouldn't listen to them....and should listen to you instead.....
because?
you say so...
is that a good summary of yur argument?
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My statements are based on pure logic.
Anyone with logic skills and understanding that a change in antagonistic participants will dramatically increase the chances of a good outcome will agree with me.
It is understandable that Ukrainians in general will rise to support a leader under attack.
But after that feeling runs its course, they will agree totally with me.
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Note: I have seen this first hand several times in top level merger and acquisition negotiations.
One or both sides let it be known that no progress can be made if X or Y is the head negotiator or even at the table.
New top people are brought in and the deal concludes.
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why do you think Putin and Trump are antagonistic to Zelensky?
they don't like his little beard?
so getting a clean shaven Ukrainian is required?
no, they hate him, becuz he's NOT a puppet they can manipulate
and want him replaced with someone they CAN manipulate
if change is all it takes...
well then...please replace Putin or Trump...and get on with it...
ohhh...not yur idea is it....
maybe the UK shoulda replaced Churchill, cuz Hitler and Mussolini didn't like him
sure would've been easier to surrender to the fascists that way
why is it hard for you to believe that Putin and Trump "aren't negotiating in Good Faith for PEACE"
that's theater for their true purpose
a Peace Treaty is just another way for Putin to try and steal Ukraine, and the only thing standing in the way...is Zelensky
Trump, Orban, etc all work for Putin
Zelensky's Plan
if Zelensky can get the Germans and French banks to hand over Russia's money to Ukraine
Zelensky can give the finger to Trump and Putin
no one else in Ukraine could do this
and the Russian economy will force Putin to ACTUALLY negotiate
once Putin realizes that Trump is of little real use to him in Ukraine, cuz of Europe,
then it's up to Putin's other allies in Europe to hurt Ukraine, like Slovakia’s Robert Fico, or the German AfD’s Alice Weidel, or Hungary's Orban
cuz Trump has nothing more to inflict on Ukraine, he already emptied his revolver at it
and Ukraine ain't dead yet
if it's ONLY Zelensky who leaves
then that's only Bull Shit,
and is light years away from any kinda logic I was ever taught, whether in philosophy or electrical engineering
you once had a job, I'm impressed, but it doesn't alter the idiocy of yur idea one bit
your rebuttal is a total failure just like yur original premise
look...I don't enjoy "beating up rednecks", "if I prick you, do you not bleed?" and then cry and run to yur MOMMY - HELL YES YOU ALL DO!!!
why ya'll make me DO THIS to ya
just stop the BS
and I'll stop scooping it up with my Super Duper Redneck Pooper Sccoper
OK?
negotiate THAT
Ukrainians will not be better off
becuz Putin will corrupt the election, just like he has done in this country
and Putin's choice will win, just like here
so yur plan is just another way of Ukraine surrendering to Putin...not a surprise
cuz yur vision is too polarized
if ya need to beat the dead horse more, which I'm sure yur Redneck EGO will demand you do
please go right ahead, but it ain't gonna get any more dead than it already is
I see the truth
JD Vance said, "Trump might be America's Hitler", before he became a Nazi
http://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-once-compared-trump-hitler-now-they-are-running-mates-2024-07-15/
Elon Musk's AI Chatbot: A 'Russian Asset' Delivered The State Of The Union
http://crooksandliars.com/2025/03/elon-musks-ai-chatbot-russian-asset
ML said Zelensky must resign
I do nazi the truth in that
Trump's plan for Putin...er I mean PEACE
as mansplained by JD Vance
yesterday Vance claimed a minerals deal with the United States would guarantee Ukranian security better than "20,000 troops from some random country that hasn’t fought a war in 30 or 40 years.”
so yes... Trump's Paper Dome is the plan for Ukraine's Security
a piece of paper with Trump's name on it to wave in front of Russian tanks
and when Zelensky said, you "can't trust Putin over a piece of paper"
Trump's response was to ACTUALLY TRY to replace Zelensky with a Russian puppet just like Trump himself
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I personally don't care if Ukraine has Zelenskiy or someone else. I just want a real peace deal not capitulation to Putin.
And most of all I want Putin gone! This is because I care about Russia too and don't want them to go back to Stalinism!
Imagine what will happen on that front if Putin declares victory!
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I care about those things to Olga...
the American President, is no longer leader of the free world
Ukraine's President is
Zelensky is now the REAL LEADER of The Free World
the primary obstacle who stands in the way of Putin/Trump fascista
what will happen when you remove that obstacle?
something good, or something bad?
America doesn't care about people in Ukraine or even people in America
America is Walmart, low IQ, obesity, and greed ruled over by an orange shit gibbon
it's a paradise that is being turned into a waste land
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My statements are based on pure logic.
That's your mistake, Krispy Krim can't use logic. This is like reasoning with a Muslim
Jihadi with a suicide vest on. The leftwing nutjob stance is the ONLY stance allowed.
He is incapable of living with anyone who has single deviation point from his creed.
Everything is the war of Gog and Magog for Krimster.
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based on the irrefutable evidence that you rednecks have never ONCE made a single logical statement in this thread...
I'm beginning to think that rednecks don't REALLY understand the philosophical concept of logic, it's all GREEK to them, so non comprendez
anecdotes, right wing propaganda, and wishful thinking, I'm sorry to have to tell ya, is not a logical thesis
you have however, provided enough information for me to assess yur educational level - High Skool
and the depth of yur learning disabilities - SEVERE
it would have been a pleasant surprise if BEEL had fashioned a thesis that could undergo analysis or be deconstructed
instead of name calling...
I suspect that in reality, BEEL completely lacks the ability to create such a thesis
due to his lack of education
"Everything is the war of Gog and Magog for Krimster."
if I'm wrong about Trump/Putin, what is the outcome?
vrs if I'm right about Trump/Putin, what is the outcome?
and in view of Trump's EXTENSIVE history with Putin, what's more likely to be true?
Elon Musk's "Grok AI", agrees with me, along with top level members of US National Security, now run by another Russian asset, Tulsi Gabbard**
that the probability Trump is a provable Russian asset is around 80% (is Elon's AI a loony tune librul, since it agrees with me)
and Trump has been a Russian asset for over 35 years when he returned from Moscow and immediately spent a large amount of money on anti-NATO adds
**http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tulsi-gabbard-russian-connection-dni-trump-syria-b2692244.html
but ole BEEL, think's there's 0% probability, based on what he calls "logic", that Trump is a Russian asset
as I've explained, there is no "actual logic"
what there is - is belief derived from ignorance
like people who once thought the world was flat
rednecks all still think the world is flat as a pancake
yur lack of education, is why you joined the Trump cult, and why it appeals to you
cuz it was designed EXCLUSIVELY for 'the poorly educated' like you BEEL
you don't have to have the most intelligent voters
you just have to have the most voters
which a cynical a**hole like Trump knows, just like JD Vance said
in red states nothing brings in the votes like racism and homophobia
because that's what appeals to ignorant voters like BEEL and ML
now rednecks are in the "finding out" phase
even BEEL and ML are gonna "find out" this year
look at the hundreds of thousands of rednecks who are bein laid off by Elon who voted for Trump
the millions of rednecks who will lose medicaid this year who all voted for Trump
the redneck veterans who will have reduced VA medical care who voted for Trump
the Trump recession - oh sorry, Fox calls it The Biden Recession - caused by Elon and tarriffs
Mr. "I can solve the Ukraine war in one day"
with a "Minerals Deal" aka Paper Dome - LMFAO becuz it's SOOOOO DAMNED STOOPID
if Europe hands over the $$$
Trump will be as relevant to the Peace Process as you are
and it means Zelensky beat Putin and Trump at chess, even though the odds were 100 to 1 against him winning
that's how incompetent Trump is
if Europe DOESN'T hand over the money SOON, then Europe failed, and not Zelensky
note: when I go to protests, I'm gonna print out a copy of Paper Dome
and wear it like a vest
cuz it'll totally protect me from the Texas National Guard bullets
right?
I mean, if it'll protect Ukraine from tanks and missiles, bullets ain't no big thing....
so I should be fine
PS
to me the issue in this thread isn't Trump Vrs Zelensky
it's why are MAGA voters, such as the ones who post here, so damned ignorant
what went so horribly wrong in American society to create this idiocracy
my bold prediction for America
There Will Be Blood
bye, bye Miss American Pie
PS
Trump and Elon's corruption in first 6 weeks
from US Senate
http://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1898062235634704636
Trump voters thought they were shrewd,
but they're all screwed
maybe they can go to Trump University
and try and turn their lives around
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continuing....
a big historical reversal in voting habits in the 2024 election. Trump won voters making less than $50,000, while Kamala Harris won those making over $50,000, signaling that Democrats have become the party of the educated while Republicans are the party of the poor and uneducated (BEEL and ML are Republicans)
the party of the poorly educated elected Trump - Congratulations!
and now they're gonna "Find Out" in a 100 different ways, starting with theiir kids healthcare....
in some states, 50% of children are insured through medicaid - one of the biggest items to be cut
and since the poor, are the ones who receive medicaid, the party of the poor and uneducated, voted to end their own family's health insurance to give a tax cut to billionaires
Trump is fixated on inflation-fueling trade wars and mass deportations, crypto bros, gutting the federal workforce and programs that help people, to offset yet more tax cuts for billionaires
HealthCare - CUTS - including to Vets - General Bone Spur doesn't give a flyin' phuque about Vets or the poor (Trump Towers all have "Poor Doors" in the back, for them to enter)
Education - trying to completely eliminate Dept of Education - cuz like Pink Floyd said, "we don't need no Education"
Welfare - CUTS
inflation rising
labor market falling
corporate taxes to be cut even more
and Trump is for the "little Guy"
only complete idiots (Republican Voters) would possibly believe that
all it takes is to just read ONE BOOK to start to lift you out of ignorance
http://archive.org/details/craig-unger-house-of-trump-house-of-putin-how-vladimir-putin-and-the-russian-maf
Right before the inauguration, Trump launched his own ‘meme coin’ called $TRUMP. It’s a digital asset with a value tied to the popularity of Trump himself.
It has no intrinsic value. Its price is just a function of demand. If a lot of people want it, its price goes up. If nobody wants it, its price plummets.
Trump knew his MAGA supporters, wild with enthusiasm during the inauguration, would buy up a ton of the worthless coin. It worked. When prices jumped from 18 cents to $75 apiece, his net worth, on paper, swelled to more than $56 billion. And when it fell back down to $17, where it sits today, many of his supporters who bought at the top lost actual real money. He duped his followers into buying the coin (with its real value of $0) at its highest price, knowing it was going to crash.
now, it's SUPER, SUPER easy to bribe Trump
just exchange yur dollars for $Trump
Trump doesn’t need to care about the fluctuation of the price of $Trump, because he gets a transaction fee every time coin trades are made.
The Trump family made $100 million just in trading fees, while many of his supporters have lost thousands of dollars.
But the real scam is not the transaction fees. No, it’s the way that the coin can be inflated in value, at key moments, to allow Trump to swell his fortune. Trump held back 80% of the coin, and he will put more up for sale when the price once again spikes. And how does the price spike, allowing Trump to cash in with an additional release of the coin? Well, all it takes is a few Russian oligarchs to buy a large quantity of coin (therefore increasing net demand) for the price to rise.
this is "Control Fraud"
a term invented by William Black, during the Savings and Loan Crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_K._Black
I recommend reading anything you can find that he's written
we will never know who is buying the $Trump coin to inflate the price and put cash into Trump’s pocket, because the buyers of the coin are secret!
So it’s essentially a private conduit for bribery.
a huge improvement over previous methods of dropping cash to his fixer lawyer Michael Cohen, or renting whole floors of Trump Tower with no one actually staying there
note: if Trump scams his own supporters for $, you think he's not gonna try and scam Zelensky as well, trying to sell him some other worthless thing (Paper Dome)
just have a look at the many different ways MAGA has shown us they're brainless idiots who always end up shooting themselves in the foot
$Trump and Medicaid cuts to Trump voters, are just a few of the many examples
there isn't a single redneck in the Trump cabinet.
All the seats there are taken, either by the super-rich who could afford to buy them, or by friends of Vlad
ya'll were taken advantage of and scammed by yur own orange jesus
PS
in Trump's continuing efforts to hurt Ukraine....
Trump now wants to end Ukrainian access to commercial satellite imagery, that you and I can FREELY access...
Maxar, a leading provider of commercial satellite imagery to Ukrainian users, says the Trump administration suspended access in Ukraine.
someone in the Trump administration has the task of searching for EVERY possible way Trump can hurt Ukraine
and they disabled American weapons already in Ukraine
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/05/abruptly-blocking-intel-the-us-prevents-ukraines-himars-from-firing-for-maximum-effect/
by his actions, Trump is DOING EVERYTHING possible to hurt Ukraine, while simultaneously doing everything possible to help Russia
and when combined with the already established 80% probability of Trump being a Russian asset...
kinda proves it....
which "of course" means Zelensky MUST be replaced with a Russian puppet
who will do whatever Putin and Trump tell him to
in order for there to be progress towards PEACE
can you imagine the $Trump coin price jump, if Trump got Zelensky to sign Paper Dome on live TV
and Zelensky "played along" calling Trump the greatest Peace Maker in World History?
ka-ching!!!
do not get between Trump and his money
that's what TOTALLY led to Trump's meltdown, because Zelensky's comment and lack of "respect and gratitude" just cost $Trump $billions
addendum
cryptocurrency has come a long way since bitcoin
which cryptocurrency do discerning criminals NOW prefer?
Most use Tether, a “stablecoin” whose value is kept fixed in U.S. dollars.
Tether is able to do this because it holds a stock of U.S. Treasury bills with Cantor Fitzgerald, an investment bank that has itself invested in Tether.
Cantor’s former CEO, Howard Lutnick, is now Donald Trump’s secretary of Commerce.
the crypto industry is now more central to Trump than offshore banking used to be
crypto is his new offshore bank
everything Trump does is transactional and he tries to monetize it
even Paper Dome
EVERYTHING Trump does is a scam or a lie to further a scam
http://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/trump-is-planning-the-biggest-heist?triedRedirect=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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Article from a few weeks ago on Russia's forthcoming problem with a shortage of Armaments for the frontline:
http://english.nv.ua/nation/russia-depleting-soviet-military-stockpiles-50485741.html
Aside from the tanks that are in too bad a state to be re-used there are of course the tanks with auto-loaders produced in the 1970s that are likely to be seen as too difficult & expensive to bring back into service because of the complexity of the built in autoloader. In others words it may be cheaper and less bother to build a new tank. However the roughly 250 tanks being produced a year are being lost at a faster rate than they can be built posing a problem for Russia.
So Russia is likely already at a Armaments shortage situation especially when considering the graph I linked to in the article in my previous posting here on that subject of a slow down in offensives around Pokrovsk.
Russia has a big problem already here. Due to the larger size of the Russian Army in Ukraine, roughly thought to be 1.3 million men it means that Russia struggles to fully equip all units well as there are more men and units to equip than Ukraine has with a thought off 800,000 men at the front.
So the Russian numerical advantage isn't necessarily a benefit for Russia anymore as many of its units now lack being fully equipped and that will likely get even worse through 2025. Essentially units that don't have enough Equipment and Armaments are likely to be very ineffective at conducting offensive operations and those offensive operations are more likely to fail than usual. Odds are in the next few months we will see a probable complete halt of Russia making any more territorial gains in Ukraine even small ones. More likely we will see Russia being slowly pushed back in some places.
That will make it easier for Ukraine to hold on in the conflict in 2025 as the pace of the war slows down. Then Ukraine just has to hold out until Russia's economy collapses and it has no choice other than to pull what remains of its army out of Ukraine, now in its fourth year of war.
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Here's an update on this guy:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-edward-scott-told-pay-34665374?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#comments-wrapper
As I knew at the start of the invasion the Ukrainian government won't pay you you as a foreigner if you sustain injuries as a result of the war and pay for your treatment, including prosthetics for loss of limbs.
The guy in the above article, Edward Scott, could have been even more unfortunate had he not been able to raise good money through GoFundMe for his prosthetics. That would have been an even more miserable situation for our man to be in. Having lost limbs at what is still a relatively young age in itself must be depressing enough but it looks like he knows on the outside at least the best thing to go is to put a brave face on something he can't now change and hope he can get a lucky strike or something. He's had a bad strike of course already.
Anyway, this is how the whole saga seemed to have started off almost three years ago now:
http://www.gofundme.com/f/mission-ukraine-winter-relief
Turns out he was one of those who had to launch his own personal aid mission and do the pilgrimage to Ukraine. Ultimately it looks like he got more and more dragged into it and involved which meant taking greater and greater risks as it took him to more and more dangerous front line cities. In my opinion not a great choice for any foreigner concerned with their life or quality of life, perhaps even moreso for younger chaps I think.
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are you tellin me that the NHS doesn't cover prosthetics?
about 50% of all Russian military "consumables" are sourced JUST from North Korea (known for it's legendary QUALITY!)
as long as Russia has money to pay for this...even if it has to cut "social spending" more than DOGE
the war will go on
cuz it's in Putin's interest
it's real easy to buy weapons and ammunition, lotta suppliers out there
and they're mostly near Russia
looky here FOLKS
a price chart for $Trump
look at Feb 28, the day of the "infamous Zelensky video"
if Zelensky signed the "Minerals Deal" aka "Paper Dome" and play acted, repeatedly thanked and praised Trump ad nauseum, all on LIVE TV
and MOST IMPORTANTLY said the magic words "NOBEL PEACE PRIZE"
instead of declining by a $billion, it would have risen by multiple $billions
and would've let Trump eventually sell even more $Trump coin, a 'split'
one annoying attribute of every "crypto bro" I know, is they are CONSTANTLY checking their crypto price
I'm sure Trump does it just as much, and knows exactly what influences it's price
it's "The Show" he directs
the $Trump price is the show's rating
soon as Zelensky told Trump, "you can't trust Putin over a piece of paper"
Trump KNEW he just lost $BILLIONS
I have NO IDEA how this can possibly be legal
it might be because Trump fired the watchdogs and controls pretty much everything
every Republican is in a contest with every other Republican to see who can flatter Trump the most
Face on Mt Rushmore
Face on $100 Bill
everything FOX does, is to to try and drive up the price of $Trump with completely fake Trump pleasing stories
you are ALL being scammed and duped, by the greatest conman the world has ever known
and he has made total FOOLS out of each and every Trump voter
you can't cheat an honest man...
how TRUE
that's how Trump cheated ya
becuz of yur own lack of integrity, that you have no awareness of
not only did Trump con you, you conned yourselves as well...
now you are entering the "finding out" phase, which FOX of course labels "The Biden Recession"
to try and support the $Trump price
like an old air mattress, they're trying to sell on Craig's List, they keep trying to "pump it up" as much as possible
you Trump voters ARE ALL gonna "Find Out" what TOTAL IDIOTS you are, later this year....
and I'm all for it
http://x.com/i/status/1898557953873154530
i'd much rather be a european anti-fascist, and play a game of tit-for-tat
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So Russia is likely already at a Armaments shortage situation especially when considering the graph I linked to in the article in my previous posting here on that subject of a slow down in offensives around Pokrovsk.
Yes, Russia in such bad shape they are forced to increase missile attacks on Ukraine !!!
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are you tellin me that the NHS doesn't cover prosthetics?
as long as Russia has money to pay for this...
They cover prosthetics but it might be a basic one depending on factors. As the guy lost his limbs outside of the UK possibly he might not be covered under the NHS.
Here is a fairly recent article I have found on it:
http://www.england.nhs.uk/2022/11/nhs-offers-life-changing-bionic-arms-to-all-amputees/
I don't know the ins & outs but with the NHS, Government, etc when you actually come to wanting something they can come out with get ours, so it really needs locking into as I don't take anything for granted with them. They say one thing and you can get something else when it comes to it sort of thing.
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Yes, Russia in such bad shape they are forced to increase missile attacks on Ukraine !!!
Every missile fired costs Russia a lot of money, Cruise missiles are expensive, etc. So it's literally lots of Russian money flying through the air to destruction.
I personally think for Russia it is a bad strategy, it's doubtful that taking out Ukraine's entire energy grid would necessarily work as Ukraine shifts to generators and prioritizes where the energy is needed most. The Ukrainian Army can likely continue without worrying too much about energy issues.
For Russia it means it is spending it's money and resources in an area that probably won't help it much. A bit like when Nazi Germany did the same with the Blitz on London, etc during WWII. Military prioritisation misses out and much money and resources that could be put to military prioritisation are wasted on pointless efforts to try and destroy the will of the people. Usually it only makes people more embittered and willing to see it to the end especially if they have lost loved ones.
So Russia are essentially weakening themselves, their economy all the time it makes and sends off those missiles. That will take more and more of a toll on the Russian economy over time.
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missiles and men, are replaceable if you have money
with all that oil and gas, Putin doesn't really have any real problems raising large sums of money
in the past three years, Europe has given Putin almost as much money from oil and gas purchases, as it has given Ukraine for weapons
a very small NET in Ukraine's favor compared to Russia's
Russia buys weapons with European money, just like Ukraine does (different vendors!)
in the past, the USA has given slightly more to Ukraine than Europe has provided (but no where near what Trump claims!!!)
but now that support has dropped to ZERO
so if Russia has been able to sustain the war the last 3 years under the previous conditions
then why do you think Russia is NOW the one losing the logistics war and NOT Ukraine, after a HUGE piece of Ukraine's logistics disappears
90% of Russian WIA return to active duty for another chance to become KIA
everyone in the Russian criminal justice system will be turned over to recruiters
for poor Russians in "the regions" military service is their only option
poverty is always the best military recruiter, and not patriotism
there are no altruists in Russia or anywhere else, but especially in Russia
I don't think Euroclear is gonna hand over a major amount of Russian assets to Ukraine
it's just kinda dribbling in right now
Ukraine has a few months, before the miltary tide turns against it, becuz of logistics, like the diplomatic tide already has
what I think is gonna happen...this year...next year...
after a whole lotta Ukrainians get killed, and things get worse and worse
Ukraine's gonna be pissed more at Europe than Russia
and Ukrainians are gonna surrrender the whole country to Putin
and then Ukrainians are gonna join the Russian army...and attack Moldova
after Trump pulls out of NATO
what will the European surrender monkeys do then?
meanwhile in America....
'tis the season of the monkeywrenching saboteur
so many opportunities for Tesla and SpaceX employees
to voice their dissent
and for the rest of us to
protests that block their shipping and receiving
drone flights at Space/X launches
imagination...that is yur creation....
the revolution WILL be televised
remember to look for me on TV, I'm the handsome middle-aged man carrying a Ukrainian flag, giving the "finger" to the Texas National Guard at a Houston anti-fascist protest
maybe a hollywood talent scout will see me!!!
I could be Reacher's Criminal MasterMind nemesis, "Dr Robotnick" who has trained a colony of Australian Blue Ring Octopi into becoming a gang of ruthless criminal assassins
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That's a pretty grim forecast Krim and I hope that it will be wrong. Trump has now pulled support so time will tell. If I were Zelensky I would hold out a while longer to see which way the wind is blowing without US support. The battlefront is already showing signs that Russia is suffering from Armaments shortages.
Ultimately not a lot may change through 2024 but we will see.
I think Zelensky/Ukraine could make a go of it with mainly UK/EU support.
Probably better to risk all of Ukraine and stand a chance of winning than let Putler take Ukraine piece by piece by capitulation.
Long term I think it's better if Russia gets defeated by it's economy collapsing. The real problem of WWIII arising is if Russia remains as a power and then teams up with China.
So Russia, China, Iran and North Korea all together against the UK, EU & US (possibly Australia, New Zealand and Canada also).
The odds would likely be in the West's favour in such a war but likely a big cost in lives. China's economy largely depends on selling to the West so that would suffer during the course of such a war to its detriment.
I think if Russia faces defeat through it's economy then China won't be emboldened to attack Taiwan and would be without a significant WWIII ally. So in that scenario a WWIII would probably unlikely happen.
Russia is still losing more tanks and artillery, etc than it is making. It's a big bonus that it's useful Soviet stockpiles are now effectively gone, that reduces its menace to the world and hopefully to Ukraine on the battlefield. Ukraine has done a great job so far and I really hope that they will prevail and end this ridiculous threat for all of us.
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All that said though sometimes I get the impression that there are just too many people in this world. Birth rates have been falling in most countries probably apart from India which helps. But even so there are probably still too many people in this world. I still hope that we don't end up in WWIII as it would likely be a horrific thing that we don't need. That's said I guess it would reduce the population globally still further.
It's not that I mind other people so much but when things get too crowded I think things can become difficult. People can bother each other more and things are not so great. I don't know how others feel on this?
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a "chance of winning" vrs what chance of losing?
when HOPE disappears in Ukraine...what will fill the vacuum it creates?
Ukrainian targeted Russian propagnda will pivot from anti-US to anti-Europe
all the blame for Ukrainian casualties will fall on Europe
and yet Ukrainians are supposed to fight to defend Europe from Putin
Ukrainians will see right through that and Russia will exploit it to the MAX
Ukrainian resistance will collapse from within, not on the battlefield
and that's WHY Putin is targetting civilian infrastructure
to make Ukrainian's lives as miserable as possible, and blame it on Europeans lack of support or commitment to Ukraine
that's just one front of the war
like WWII had European and Pacific Theaters
a second theater of operations is in the USA
a civil war is unfolding in the USA, initiated by Putin's asset who controls the American government
I don't care what they may do
I don't care what they may say
the antichrist is just alright, oh yeah
the antichrist is just alright
the antichrist is the beast with multiple heads
one of them is Putin
one of them is Trump
one of them is Musk
more will be revealed
who besides Zelensky will stand up to the anti-christ? while all others bow down to him?
what happens when OUR Christ will be crucified by Pilate
what will happen to the people's faith then?
note: when that happens, $Trump coin will reach all the way to Heaven
and will become the fabled stairway to heaven
and none of you redneck Trump voters are ever gonna be allowed to walk those stairs
only Trumps
you all will be livin in the basement
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the antichrist is the beast with multiple heads
(http://image.cagle.com/293278/830/joe-heller_doom-scrolling.png)
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Beel demands - thou shall not speak ill of the BEAST, on whose alter he worships, to receive riches from the Trump Cargo Cult
sure, first amendment and all that
but...
did not the prophets all tell us...that the antichrist would sell fake Chinese bibles to fake American Christians?
or was it gold tennis shoes...
"The Prince of Lies" is already upon us
with Newspeak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
but there are crack's in the BEAST's concealment
for example, here
http://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-grok-chatbot-calculates-probability-100057194.html
and here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report
mythology always becomes reality
which therefor makes it worthy of study
"After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.”
Daniel 11:23
"Then he will distribute among his followers the plunder and wealth of the rich—something his predecessors had never done.”
Daniel 11:24
He will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will sell them land at a price.”
Daniel 11:39b
PS
I predict a lot of arson in the USA this year, like in Russia
the solution must be saturated
then super saturated
then just adding a tiny speck, will precipitate everything out of solution
we are in the very early saturation phase
PS
it would require raising Social Security taxes to around 1.3% of GDP to fix Social Security and make it stable for future generations
House Republicans in Congress recently passed a resolution calling for $4.5 trillion in tax cuts mainly for the rich over the next ten years — which turns out to be roughly 1.2% of GDP
if they simply skipped the tax cuts to corporations and billionaires
they could "save" social Security
Connecting the dots makes the solution obvious.
but...
ain't NOBODY got time for that
cuz of all the problems caused by transexuals and Mexicans
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Ukrainian forces are on the attack!
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/03/10/7502130/index.amp
UK intelligence reports Ukrainian counterattacks near Pokrovsk in Donetsk Oblast
As said the tide of the war is turning in Ukraine's favour. Only a matter of time before it becomes starkly obvious.
Now it's Moscow that is on the sharp end of it!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c51ypekv9xwt
Who would have thought that Moscow would be vulnerable to such a large scale attack from Ukraine. Moscow was powerless to stop widespread damage showing the world how weak they have become. That Ukraine is able to penetrate the heart of Russia it's Capital City far to the north shows how strong Ukraine's ability to wage war has become in this fight.
Putler is no doubt highly embarrassed by this and pissing his panties.
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the war is not gonna be won or lost on the battlefield
the main struggle is now in another arena
with different gladiators
nonetheless
it is still a struggle between Good and Evil
as it always is in Ukraine and always will be
like Israel, Ukraine will never know PEACE
today' graves are just the latest layer stacked over the previous ones from long ago
who all died for the same reason
thank you ancestors for getting the hell out of there!
but guess what's happening in America now?
PS
OTD in 1941 the US lend lease act was signed!
It merely prolonged the war by allowing the UK to continue fighting Nazis instead of seeking peace.
Churchill should've been replaced with a Nazi Sympathizer
and the UK should've given Essex to Germany for Deutsche Welt
the anti-oligarch resistance is slowly self-organising and growing...possibly this summer it may hit "the exponential phase"
and then it's just one police choke hold away from exploding
Viva Le Revolution
I can hear it coming 'round the bend
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the war is not gonna be won or lost on the battlefield
the main struggle is now in another arena
with different gladiators
nonetheless
it is still a struggle between Good and Evil
as it always is in Ukraine and always will be
like Israel, Ukraine will never know PEACE
today' graves are just the latest layer stacked over the previous ones from long ago
who all died for the same reason
thank you ancestors for getting the hell out of there!
but guess what's happening in America now?
PS
OTD in 1941 the US lend lease act was signed!
It merely prolonged the war by allowing the UK to continue fighting Nazis instead of seeking peace.
Churchill should've been replaced with a Nazi Sympathizer
and the UK should've given Essex to Germany for Deutsche Welt
the resistance is slowly self-organising and growing...possibly this summer it may hit "the exponential phase"
and then it's just one police choke hold away from exploding
Only if the Russian economy crumbles and there is a second break up of the Russian Union/Federation will I think there will likely be lasting peace. That is potentially the best scenario for lasting peace. It will leave much weaker states, economically and militarily although nuclear armed that will keep out China in Asia from regions/new Countries like Siberia, etc.
Centuries ago Russia got big and powerful by starting off as a collection of states in the West and bringing more & more states under its control as you no doubt know. So Russia became a bigger & bigger beast over time and the bigger it got the more and more easily it could roll over it's neighbours and join them to it's ranks to make itself even more powerful. The same essentially as you have told us Krim as to what Russia is up to now in taking Ukraine to then use Ukrainians to take Moldova and so on.
Russia's power is not inexhaustible I think though, as we saw in WWI once they are eventually exhausted that power is gone and the risk of break up, good for us, becomes real :)
WWIi I have often regarded as a complete mess up by the UK, too late to move against Germany when they could have stopped Germany with a lot less bloodshed & time earlier on before it rearmed significantly. Then not seeing later that they would have been better not moving against Germany but remaining neutral and letting Germany and the USSR have it out. If necessary they could have moved against Germany after it got exhausted fighting against the USSR and take them totally by surprise having rearmed while the two were fighting each other in my opinion.
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if Putin doesn't accept the temporary truce in the next 24 hours
then there is no longer any "peace treaty negotiation"
that's over and was just theater for Trump, which in reality was merely a way for him to have a peace treaty between Russia and the USA
so Trump's can more easily launder Russian $$$
now...
Ukraine has a choice of surrender or continuing the war, minus half it's logistics and imilitary ntelligence
in the beginning...
all Putin had to do was make joining Russian Oligarchs a MUCH better option for Ukrainians than staying with Ukrainian Oligarchs
and the whole damned war could have been avoided.
Ukraine will continue to prove it does not want peace by being bombed by Putin.
Russia ALWAYS became bigger, by making it's neighbors disappear
that's why it's called "the Prison House of Nations"
I intend to live in a free country and not an enslaved one
just like Ukrainians
freedom is never given, it must ALWAYS be fought for
Dear MAGA Voters
please check your IRA Mutual Fund Stock
The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubricated.
lemme hear ya'll "squeel like a pig"
ah hahahahahahahaha
dumb phuques
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Market goes up and down all the time.
Of no importance . . . until retirement time.
Wife concerned about down market for her growing 403b plan (like 401k).
I tell her . . . no it's good for market to be down when you are putting money in.
Again, just hope all goes up by retirement time.
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all's well that end's well?
well homeboy...got some bad, bad news for ya!!!
you are not even two months into Donald Trump's 4 year term...
and the DOW and NASDAQ, those NOTORIOUS liberal bastions
ain't too happy
so by the time those 4 years go by
it will NOT END WELL
alles ist klar?
Retirement?
you gonna be a Walmart Greeter, or slingin fries at McDonald's 4 years from now
but...
I ain't seen a SINGLE GAY COWBOY this entire month!!!!
you won!!!!
such a noble self-sacrifice you made, merely to deny freedom to gay people
is...so uplifting...and inspiring....
so proud of all you've done ML
you and all the other genuis MAGA voters
so proud...
cuz everything was really phuqued up before, and now. in just two months, you've FIXED EVERYTHING
can't wait for the remaining 46 months for even more "improvements"
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Trump's foreign policy is like a "Magic 8 Ball"
shake it every day and get a new fortune
wealth managers must love this, no more boring predictability
who doesn't like "a little excitement"
I was proud of Biden when he made his trip to see Zelensky in Kyiv
there's a video, where Zelensky had tears in his eyes, as Biden walked through a line of Ukrainian commanders, shook their hands, and praised them
vrs the COMPLETE AND TOTAL SHIT SHOW that Trump has turned Ukraine into
what new spur-of-the-moment impulsive decision will Trump do next for/to Ukraine, and how will Trump monetize it? a new meme coin $ukrscam
as the American ecomomy plummets
entirely because of Trump and Elon's other decisions
does ANY of this seem....normal?
it's NOT NORMAL!!!
THIS IS WHAT AUTOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!
I TOLD YOU ALL....
BUT THE WORST IS YET TO COME
FAR...FAR...WORSE...
after American Maidan
if anyone is reading here, and remembers me
becuz of my age, I have lost my fear of death entirely
given all the doors available to me to make my exit
the one I'd choose, are the doors to the Deportation Camps
let me die as a freedom fighter, and not old age, have I not earned this...
did I not ALWAYS do the tasks I was given
I will myself to die the way I have always lived
let my death subtract from the evil in the world and not add to it
moy slovo v ukho bog
there is a secret Federal deportation camp not far from where I live
I drove by it today and took pictures
and Tesla Dealerships
for protests...protests...provided the appropriate paperwork has been filled out
wouldn't wanna break any laws....
SLAVA
this ain't gonna be the summer of love
American Atesh
Krimster2 #2
former soldier, international drug dealer and crypto criminal, turned fighter for de cause and self-hosted LLM AI enthusiast, and Amateur Radio
also I design and make a brand of Premium Doll Furniture in authentic period styles
and I am very, very, very far away from neurotypical
even if I had a telescope, damn, I could't see it
PS
FBI, DHS, VA I passed my last Psych Eval....
ya'll ain't got NOTHIN on me
nor do the Russians
and after I'm dead
all you rednecks can KISS MY ASS
you know what?
never mind...
I be trippin 'bro
it's the ketamine
i thought they said mega and not micro dose
my bad
anway...
just ignore everything I said, unless if it was about UFOs and gravimetric technology, that's fer real
and don't trust Quantum mechanics
it's NOT deterministic, it NEVER is
why ya'll lookin at me like that?
y'know...
that weird kinda look you get
when ya hear an Iskander-M screaming across the sky
that Russian Raketa's paranolic trajectory ain't no Arc de Triomphe for humanity
non...c'est le arc de défaite
BOG, you gotta lotta phuqueing xplainin to do
don't EVEN get me started on this subject
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Trump has put Putin in a position, where he can be his MOST DEVIOUS
while Zelensky has to operate in good faith
Trump can plan another Zelensky ambush for Putin
maintain a future probability matrix that includes the probability that:
-Russia accepts ceasefire
-Russia then breaks it and blames Ukraine
-Trump sides with Russia, accuses Ukraine of killing his ‘peace plan’ and stops aid again, this time for good, and removes all sanctions from Russia
Trump ran for re-election to avoid criminal prosecution.
He never had a coherent theory of the biggest trends in the world today and how to best align America with them to thrive in the 21st century. That is not why he ran.
The result is what you are seeing today: a crazy cocktail of on-again-off-again tariffs, on-again-off-again assistance for Ukraine, on-again-off-again cuts in government departments and programs both domestic and foreign — conflicting edicts all carried out by cabinet secretaries and staff members who are united by a fear of being tweeted about by Elon Musk or Trump should they deviate from whatever policy line emerged unfiltered in the last five minutes from our Dear Leader’s social media feed.
and you all are still thinking, "yeah, but what about Hillary's emails"
all the MAGA Nero Voters who fiddled with Nero, while Rome burned to the ground
so Nero could build a gigantic new palace in the the ruins
which also became a ruin
when I was in Rome, doing as Romans do
I took a small piece of the remains of Juliius Caesar's tomb
to be ground into dust, for use in Kabbalah black magic rituals
to do what I do
no BS about "eye of Newt"
all the vials in my cabinet have much different labels
and came mostly from Europe and Israel (like the spot where Jesus was crucified)
the "spells" have a grammar, like a formula, yet they are also like a poem
it has to be the proper syntax for it to work
and the style and wording is important to...the spell must sound pleasing to the ear like a haiku
you must also be willing to make "animal sacrifices" to get "their" attention
I have to turn off part of my brain when I do that
cuz animals are innocent
and there's a deeply buried part of me that has remorse
PS
Hey Kids!
Do You Know What Time It Is?
what would happen, if Christ returned a second time and came this time to the USA
and no one recognized him for who he really was
his gospel was rejected and they shot and killed him
I remember this happening in 1968
when I was a little kid, dodging Rockwell's Nazis in Arlington, Virginia, even he got shot, just like the Black American born Jesus
bullets flyin everywhere in the USA, schools, churches, night clubs, your neighborhood
everybody was kung fu figh-ting, except for the MFer with an AK-47
This Is America
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and I am very, very, very far away from neurotypical
nemo crederet
Who'da thunk?
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so a man with a hole in the back of his head
is mocking someone else's affliction
and doesn't see the irony?
good 'ole Mr Copy/Paste tries to confirm his diploma once more, with yet another copy/paste...
thinking that if this time, he changed it to another language, it'd be more convincing
sic transit
LMFAO at you BEEL
Call to action: National Day Of Protest, March 14
Every Tesla dealership EVERYWHERE is a protest site
see ya'll there
after that a nation wide labor strike with as many workers as possible
make the oligarchs feel the same pain the poor are feeling
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every Trump voter is eventually forced into making a life or death decision....
drink the kool-aid...or don't drink the kool-aid...that is the question...
last time, it was "vax" or "no vax" FOX said no.... so MAGA voters died...right ML?
MAGA obeys FOX, not becuz of loyalty, it's becuz of their ignorance
this time it's their retirement
should they cash out of the market now, and accept a 10% reduction in their retirement
or wait it out, like FOX says, and face a 50% loss
they're MAGA, so of course they'll do what FOX says, so all the hedge funds can bail out first...
Trump insiders shorted the market, soon as he won...
Amazon Prime Video is making a $40 million Biopic about Melania, starring Melania who will be paid $18 million for her incredible life-like performance of herself, it was so "real"
$Trump isn't the only "MEME Coin" out there...
there's this one...
http://www.benzinga.com/trading-ideas/movers/25/03/44268979/melania-trumps-official-memecoin-worth-over-13-billion-barely-two-months-ago-is-now-valued-at-367-million
USA = Griftopia for Grifters
every single Trump Investment vehicle is sinking fast
investors lose, but "somehow" Trumps always win
Trump did a Tesla Ad on the White House Driveway to boost Tesla's declining sales
in exchange for $100 million a couple of hours later straight from Elon
bringing Elon's total investment in Trump to over $400 million (which is all the "votes" he needs)
Tesla and Income Tax
http://itep.org/tesla-reported-zero-federal-income-tax-in-2024/
Trump and Income Tax
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-tax-returns-released-house-committee-years-legal-battles-rcna62408
and they WANT MORE
while the IRS will lose $100 billion this year due to fired auditors and lack of audits on wealthy tax cheats
Dear MAGA Voters
there's a difference between "sticking up for the little guy"
and "sticking it to the little guy"
the problem is: yur just not smart enough to understand what it is
so yur just gonna have to live with the consequences of yur "mistake"
which you always blame on someone else, libruls, gay, mexican, etc.
because yur an infallible genuis
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Putin's next step in the theater of negotiation....
Demand that one sanction be lifted NOW
Trump's little escapade of cutting off all G2 intelligence to Ukraine
enabled Russia to massacre Ukrainian soldiers in Kursk
which may cause Ukraine to withdraw
entirely by accident...of course...
guess what?
in a couple of hours, i'm gonna be lookin at Teslas...along with a few hundred other people
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http://youtu.be/unSSHfIs3U0
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French lecturing Trump
Grumpy stirs the pot then will disappear for 3 weeks while Krimster goes on a post rampage.
France can send aid to Ukraine, nobody is suggesting that they don't.
From Politico EU
France way behind Germany on military aid to Ukraine, data show
Of Europe's big military powers, France is doing the most lackluster job in sending
arms and ammunition to Ukraine, according to a new calculation of international
aid by Germany's Kiel Institute.
http://www.politico.eu/article/military-aid-ukraine-france-way-behind-germany/
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I gots me one of them Che Guevara Black Berets
I look quite dashing
cuz The Revolution will be televised
and it needs a 'snappy look'
a couple more weeks to my next protest
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I gots me one of them Che Guevara Black Berets
I look quite dashing
cuz The Revolution will be televised
and it needs a 'snappy look'
a couple more weeks to my next protest
As long as you have that faraway stare, the dreamy romantic
dissident look isn't the preferred over dashing? Or can they be
blended together now?
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all the world is but a stage...
someone with 'my range' can play many roles!!!
i'm what they call in the industry 'versatile'
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Pot Stirs itself.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/934ae4973dc9.jpg
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The Theater of Appeasement
carefully choreographed to create the illusion of progress while changing nothing fundamental about Russia's ongoing invasion and war crimes
What makes this performance particularly cynical is how transparent the staging is. Putin reiterates his maximalist goals that would effectively end Ukraine's existence as an independent state in the same breath as agreeing to this superficial pause.
The precondition for a real ceasefire?
A “total end to foreign military support and intelligence sharing with Kyiv”—in other words, Ukraine's complete vulnerability and isolation...which would be a prelude to it's surrender
Ukraine has to accept whatever terms Trump says, and say please and thankyou or ELSE Trump will take away Ukraine's ability to defend itself
while Russia tells Trump what it's terms are
The ONLY OTHER THING Trump and Putin agreed on, was that a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge $$$$ upside (for Trump and Putin)
so really this is more of a focus on a future normalized trade relations treaty between Russia and the USA
Trump needs to get rid of Ukraine...it's BLOCKING HIS GOALS
me thinks. Trumputin will later try and trap Ukraine, into rejecting Putin's future terms
so that Trump will use it as an excuse to take away Ukraine's ability to defend itself, but this time permanently
and put tarriffs on European nations delivering weapons to Ukraine
becuz they are "anti-peace"
and then Trump removes all US sanctions on Russia
while severely limiting Ukraine's ability to defend itself and survive
so it ends up like Poland in 1939
and $Trump mem coin market cap goes past the $50 billion mark...cuz Russian oligarchs are buying it like mad
we're just watching a show—A Diplomatic Apprentice Reality TV with a script written in Moscow and produced in Washington,
Today, President Trump and President Putin spoke about the need for peace and a ceasefire in the Ukraine war. Both leaders agreed this conflict needs to end with a lasting peace. They also stressed the need for improved bilateral relations between the United States and Russia. The blood and treasure that both Ukraine and Russia have been spending in this war would be better spent on the needs of their people.
This conflict should never have started and should have been ended long ago with sincere and good faith peace efforts. The leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire and permanent peace. These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East.
The leaders spoke broadly about the Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent future conflicts. They further discussed the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure the broadest possible application. The two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel.
The two leaders agreed that a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside. This includes enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved.
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Putin is now dependent on Trump for defeating Ukraine
while Trump is now dependent on Putin for receiving Russian money
this mutual codependency will determine the diretion of future Ukrainian "peace negotiations"
the priority is to get Ukraine out of the way, to resume the flow of Russian money laundering
ultimately, the only way to get rid of Ukraine, is to take away it's ability to defend itself
so Trump needs a pretext to cutoff Ukraine...Zelensky not bowing deeply enough, etc.
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US Military aid was cut off but is now restored. However that will only last for the next 2-3 months as it's the military aid Biden had already pushed through.
By then Russia should be starting to lack in Armaments itself in a bad way. So for Ukraine it's best to try and last it out a bit and get as much of that 2-3 month supply that it can. The weaker Russia gets on the battlefield the more UK/EU military aid will suffice to hold of Russia. Trump is almost definitely certain not to give Ukraine any more military aid after current US military aid exhausts in 2-3 months time as to date he seems dead set against that. However, the UK/EU bloc is a powerful force in itself both economically and militarily, maybe not as much as the US and losing them means burdening the load but it looks certainly that the UK/EU combined are a lot more powerful militarily and economically than Russia.
So a lot comes down to willingness of the UK/EU and Ukraine to go the final leg and hold on to defeat Russia. Hold until Russia's economy cracks up and it's military gets weaker and weaker and it has no choice other than to give up and pull out of Ukraine.
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Europe gives almost the same amount of money to Russia for gas and oil which is deposited in Russia's foreign weapons/technology purchasing account
as it gives Ukraine for weapons
so if you gave the same amount of money you gave for police protection to the criminals they're protecting you from
how far ahead do you think you'd be?
this is Ukraine's achilles heel
I suspect Trump's temporary cutoff was just a prelude
so that when the inevitable Reichstag Fire breaks out, Trump will permanently remove US Aid to Ukraine
and wilth all that $$$ Trump gets from Russia
Europeans will wanna piece of the pie to
Putin also wants to work with Elon directly now...
Earlier, UK ex-Defence Secretary Sir Ben Wallace said Donald Trump has been “bettered in Round One” by Vladimir Putin.
The former Cabinet minister also detailed his fears that Trump will sell out Ukraine in a secret deal with Putin.
Sir Ben told how he was Defence Secretary when first-term Trump did his so-called “Deal of the Century” with the Taliban in February 2020 to end the US military presence in Afghanistan.
The former Defence Secretary told of a “secret annex” which “basically gave the Taliban everything they wanted to beat the Afghan army”.
Sir Ben explained further: “In the Taliban deal, which he basically did behind everyone else’s backs, he allowed the Taliban to carry on but restricted the American forces to their bases, removed any air cover, and that was the two things that actually the Taliban feared..so they just ploughed on ahead.
“It’s a similar thing here.
“The reality is...how will Trump view it...will he view that he has actually been bettered in Phase One, or Round One by President Putin, will he start picking up the phone to European leaders and saying ‘do as I tell you’ like stop supporting Ukrainians because that’s the only way we are going to get in his view peace and what will the European leaders say.”
But the Kremlin said on Wednesday that Putin and Trump understand and trust each other and are determined to restore badly damaged US-Russia ties step-by-step
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/round-one-to-putin-as-trump-threatens-to-sell-out-ukraine-in-secret-deal-warns-ben-wallace/ar-AA1BdWJF?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTE&cvid=3202405985a64a8ca1b32818545ed306&ei=17
so...yes...Trump is gonna sell Ukraine to Putin
and then later he'll sell social security to Wall Street
Trump NEVER lost ANY money underestimating the intelligence of MAGA voters
it's a sure bet that they're the dumbest of the dumb
the ones who post here, are perfect examples, highlighting their VAST ignorance
while worshiping the Orange Genuis
Republican who introduced Trump derangement syndrome bill arrested for soliciting a minor
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/minnesota-justin-eichorn-arrested-soliciting-minor
birds of a feather...
how many times was Trump named in the Epstein Files by "Jane Doe"
don't forget, while his wife was pregnant, he was having sex with a porn star, paid her hush money, lied about it, and got 34 felonies in return
who WOULDN'T want this guy to be the one who decides Ukraine's fate...right...?
PS
a smoking gun from Tass
http://tass.com/politics/1870713
The Kremlin's statement following Trump's call with Putin differs from the White House version.
The Russian account includes poison pill requirements, to achieve a 30-day truce: halting mobilization in Ukraine & ceasing all international military aid & intelligence sharing with Ukraine.
Trump left out those details and lied about it on TV
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Putin bombs energy plants hours after telling Trump he would halt attacks
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/03/18/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-peace-talks-war-latest-news/
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so Zelensky was RIGHT when he told Trump "you can't trust Putin"
unfortunately, Trump is even less trustworthy than Putin
The Art of the Bogus Peace Deal
A few years ago, his phone call with Zelenskyy was "perfect".
This week, his phone call with Putin was "very good".
I see a trend developing here
Trump should switch to email
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Putin bombs energy plants hours after telling Trump he would halt attacks
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/03/18/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-peace-talks-war-latest-news/
2017 Nobody knew health care could be so complicated
2025 Nobody knew stopping wars could be so complicated
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Putin bombs energy plants hours after telling Trump he would halt attacks
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/03/18/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-peace-talks-war-latest-news/
I think someone predicted this . . . can't rememberwho.
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2020 - nobody knew managing a pandemic could be so complicated
except for Joe Biden who created the Pandemic Preparedness Program, which Trump eliminated
and then Trump lied over and over about the pandemic and urged us to inject bleach
and I'm the weird crazy person...who voted for Kamala...and not rednecks who voted for Trump
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oy Vey
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urged us to inject bleach
You forgot shiving UV light into the body :D
this could do a tremendous number on infection
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2013872/ukraines-incredible-new-1-2bn-resort
It's a bit long and not exciting.
http://youtu.be/ZJi4fc7GZ-s
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since Trump has eliminated 60% of Ukraine's logistics
and european tarriffs are putting the squeeze on the remaining 40%
Putin is no longer interested in the pursuit of peace
instead...
Putin makes an offer
a ceasefire has a cost
in fact, it's a surrender first, then a cease fire
the cost would be to give Russia 4 regions of Ukraine: Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Luhansk & Donetsk.
Ukraine still holds:
- 42% of Kherson (ca. 300 000 people)
- 40% of Donetsk (ca. 200 000 ppl)
- 30% of Zaporizhzhia (ca. 600 000 ppl)
- 2% of Luhansk (ca. 1000 ppl)
In total, more than 1 million people still live in the Ukrainian-controlled parts of these regions.
so land that Ukraine spent thousands of lives successfully defending must be handed over
along with unsuccessfully defended russian occupied lands
oh you wanna fight cuz we're stealing yur house?
well give us yur house and the two next to it and we'll stop...
Before the invasion, the ethnic compositions of these regions was as follows:
- Kherson: 82% UA - 14% RU
- Zaporizhzhia: 71% UA - 24.5% RU
- Luhansk: 58% UA - 39% RU
- Donetsk: 57% UA - 38% RU
handing this over would be part of the surrender process, but not the end
Zelensky won't do this...so he will be replaced by someone who will
this is the direction Ukraine will drift in by summer
I'd expect that the fortunes of war will turn against Ukraine due to lack of logistics
becuz of Trump
once Zelensky is replaced, Ukraine will surrender Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Luhansk and Donetsk
and will be added to Crimea as Novo Russiya
and will know peace
for as long as it takes Russia to rearm
which once Trump removes Russian sanctions, will be pretty fast
PS
Trump's Budget just passed by the House, has a $2.5 trillion deficit, which means in the near future we will soon have $3 trillion yearly deficits
and that's with 275,000 federal job cuts and hundreds of billions in tarriffs
I suspect this will be a low number, when we find out next year that tax receipts are down
the war in Ukraine will still be going on
the American economy will be coming apart
there is now a career apocalypse for all white collar jobs
ya still think people are gonna worry over "write one" or "write many"?
working for the conventional economy in a conventional job is a dead end now
relying on the system to provide you with a job, is over
yur first step to making a job is to know how to make something
then ya gotta figure out how to sell the thing yur making
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Just a quick one here but it looks like what I have been saying in the Russians running out of Armour has finally come true:
http://euromaidanpress.com/2025/04/12/frontline-report-russia-ran-out-of-armor-so-ukraine-is-stopping-waves-of-troops-with-one-machine-gun-near-pokrovsk/
Looks like Russia who have recently conscripted about 160,000 more men for the war are trying to overwhelm the Ukrainians with sheer number of men. However, now lacking in Armoured vehicles and tanks these efforts are completely hopeless and doomed to failure. Russia are only likely to get weaker on the battlefield from here on out meaning their hopes of beating Ukraine on the battlefield are becoming a forlorn hope.
Ukraine should soon be able to hold on pretty easy and may even retake some ground from Russia in the months to come. Ultimately with it's economy and military in a bad way this may become a war that Russia ends up being forced to give up.
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LOL! that's EuroMaidan's "unbiased view"?
that "human wave" tactics signals the collapse of the Russian military?
LOL!! did you watch the movie "Enemy At The Gates"
this is how Russians fight - a sacrificial slaughter for glory of the motherland
well...
the Russian Army is NOT an Army with soldiers, it's an Army of Slaves
Slave Armys are not high quality becuz the slaves ONLY fight because they are afraid of the king
if instead, you Russians fight Putin, you just have ONE ENEMY to deal with
but if you Russians go to Ukraine to fight, you have hundreds of thousands of angry Ukrainians to deal with
but yur all Russian idiots who'll die in Ukraine, instead of taking on Putin, because going to Ukraine, that's the path of least resistance and intelligence
Trump putting the squeeze on Ukraine's logistics and making at LEAST a 60% long term cut ALREADY
while putting pressure on NATO economies to do the same
is all but a guarantee of Ukraine's future demise
Putin has 3 years and 9 months, to figure out how to finish off Ukraine
it's clear, Putin is not interested in stopping the war, because with Trump in power he's winning instead of losing like under Biden
everything about the "Peace Treaty" is a LIE from either Trump or Putin
all lies...all the time...
PS
Trump is setting up the oligarch takeover of the USA, beginning with a consumption tax to offset cuts to capital gains taxes
The trick Trump is trying to pull off is to get the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) to allow estimated tariff revenues to "offset" the proposed Trump tax cuts and declare the budget revenue neutral, thereby allowing the tax cuts to go through with a simple majority vote. The resulting budget would shift the tax system from a progressive taxation system to a more consumption-based system.
Trump's tarriffs have NOTHING TO DO with bringing manufacturing back to the USA
and everything to do from transferring taxation from the richest Americans to the poorest with a consumption-based tax system
remember Malcolm Forbes and his VAT national sales tax scheme?
this would fall somewhere under that
the people around Trump who are privy to his daily tarriff changes are engaging in insider trading, and the watchdogs have all been fired, so carry on then
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LOL! that's EuroMaidan's "unbiased view"?
that "human wave" tactics signals the collapse of the Russian military?
LOL!! did you watch the movie "Enemy At The Gates"
this is how Russians fight - a sacrificial slaughter for glory of the motherland
well...
the Russian Army is NOT an Army with soldiers, it's an Army of Slaves
Slave Armys are not high quality becuz the slaves ONLY fight because they are afraid of the king
if instead, you Russians fight Putin, you just have ONE ENEMY to deal with
but if you Russians go to Ukraine to fight, you have hundreds of thousands of angry Ukrainians to deal with
but yur all Russian idiots who'll die in Ukraine, instead of taking on Putin, because going to Ukraine, that's the path of least resistance and intelligence
Trump putting the squeeze on Ukraine's logistics and making at LEAST a 60% long term cut ALREADY
while putting pressure on NATO economies to do the same
is all but a guarantee of Ukraine's future demise
Putin has 3 years and 9 months, to figure out how to finish off Ukraine
it's clear, Putin is not interested in stopping the war, because with Trump in power he's winning instead of losing like under Biden
everything about the "Peace Treaty" is a LIE from either Trump or Putin
all lies...all the time...
There is often good & bad news stories to report or not report by either side in war, unless one side is whole heartedly winning or losing of course. However although Euromaiden Press might be seen as biased and in sogd ways it probably is at some times I think here it is probably about right. It's well known that Russia has been losing Armour at a far faster rate that it can replace it over the last three years. It takes moments to destroy Armour in the field with the right weaponry, it takes far longer to construct new Armour in a factory.
Looks like the writing was on the wall for Russia back in February when it was reported that they were begining to run out of Armour:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/04/ladas-may-be-putins-last-resort-russia-ukraine-war-defence/
Now it looks like they have totally run out of Armour apart from drips and drags of Armour that they occasionally may get new from the factories.
That's not good for Putler, once his forces get obviously seen as being weak his bargaining hand at the peace table decreases dramatically. Once Russian conventional forces can obviously no longer win then Putler is seen in a weak position. I never really thought that a peace treaty would come about as neither Putler nor Zelensky could ever give up anything,bits down to who loses this one.
I've seen the, 'Enemy at the Gates' film many times, it's in my DVD collection. First time I watched it I was shocked by the Russians mowing down their own troops if they started to retreat. A tactic that wasn't great but probably worked in some cases back in the day but nowadays is looking like a pointless sacrifice of men and a strategy for disaster.
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the NKVD "blocking units" still exist - new FSB lapels on uniforms
Russian institutions are partly based on an ancient centralized managerial bureaucracy
no NCOs in Russian military means just officers to direct the slaves to be slaughtered
no real strategy - just attrition
by summer, the Russians should be pushing hard to replace Zelensky with Poroshenko
who will sellout Ukraine for a box of chocalates
Pootin will celebrate the creation of Novo Russiya and Trump will tear up sanctions on Russia
and Russia rapidly rearms while America burns
Soviets killed milions of their own people
lined them up against a wall
put them in extermination camps
mass starvation
for no reason at all
kill half the people, to terrify the other half into total blind obedience
this is how things have ALWAYS worked in Russia
somebody like me in Russia would speak perfect native level English and have advanced engineering degrees
so as not to have to serve in the Donbas mud with toothless Russian Gopnicks who are on death's front doorstep knocking to be let in
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the problem with the existing "contact zones" or hotspots
is that they are heavily mined on the Ukrainian side
so Russians send out probes looking for openings through the mine fields
which Ukrainians destroy
and they keep repeating this
a better strategy is to keep Ukraine pinned down in the East and South
and then open a new front from Belarus in the North, like they tried in the beginning
Ukraine hasn't prepared in-depth defenses for an attack from the North
so Russia will attack where "the enemy is weak"
they could even try to divide Ukraine this way, and cut-off the east of Ukraine from supply
where would Ukraine get the soldiers and LOGISTICS to counter a NEW FRONT?
Russia has Chinese, North Korean "volunteers" and outnumbers Ukraine 4-1
just look at the numbers...
WITH US support
Ukraine was SLIGHTLY ahead
but without it
will be WAY BEHIND Russia
and eventually, this accounting fact will show up in the battlefield
which is what will put pressure on Zelensky to leave, when the Ukrainian Army starts to give up ground
then, after Zelensky is replaced, Ukraine surrenders to Russia
Russian sanctions are removed
Exxon Mobil Siberia will be the biggest business venture in the history of the world
PS
due to lack of American logistics, Ukraine is "adapting"
cheap low cost drones, assembled in Ukraine from Chinese parts
are currently producing 50% of Russian casualties
http://x.com/i/status/1911971548665135299
Ukraine "we don't need no stinking logistics"
just an army of drone assemblers and gamer drone pilots
in the 18th century American farmers with kentucky rifles fought the bloody british at the battle of new orleans
in the 21st century, Ukrainian drone pilots fought the bloody Russians at the battle of Kherson
Russians completely miss the opportunity for the electronics and ECM war
direction finding with software defined radio spectrum analyzers
would let you map every radio transmitter on the battlefield in real time, including every drone operator
while yur setup is "completely dark" on the RF spectrum, cuz you run cables to a distant point for COM
this is one type of "counter drone"
drone hunters
another is drone interceptor
and of course, you have yur own offensive drone operations
some tactical on the battlefield - some on infrastructure
Ukraine no longer has a strategy to win the war
at best, it has a strategy to try and hang on
for the next 4 years
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This isn't a bad article of recent:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy7dv6zk36o.amp
The map in the article shows a large expansive area of the border along neighbouring Belarus. Belarus is interesting, it has not so far directly entered into the conflict on Russia's side. I'm surprised nothing has happened along the Belarus border aside from some small activity during the early days of the invasion. Someone said here a while ago that the Belarus border region has since been fortified by Ukraine. I don't know whether it has or not for certain but it would make sense as you pointed out Krim it would be all too vulnerable area otherwise. So odds are that it is heavily mined and fortified now with troops. I think if such an easy area to win the conflict we're left still existing Russia would have probably taken advantage by now.
Troop numbers are difficult to ascertain. I've seen articles that state that Ukraine has just under a million in the military though not all on front line roles and Russia has somewhere around 1.3 - 1.5 million though possibly not all in front libs roles also. Russia of course seems to be losing men and refilling as fast as they can. The Chinese in the war seems to be few in number and mostly volunteers attracted to the good pay & bonuses it seems . I don't think that China itself is motivated to send it's troops to fight in Ukraine. North Korea has sent some troops but it seems they can only spare so many and they aren't performing all that well. Possibly the North Korean regime fears a revolt at home if they send many troops that and it looks like it may have made big noises about it's military in the past that just aren't true for such a small and relatively poor country.
Another problem Russia apparently has is arming the troops that it has in Ukraine. Recent reports have highlighted this and it can cap the numbers of troops Russia can bring to Ukraine as if they have no weapons to give them in hand there is not much point them being there. Potentially even a lot of troops they have there may have little effective weapons in hand. Again it takes time to produce even small arms and if soldiers are lost in their hundreds or more daily then any weapons they have are often lost with them. So I would suggest that from this things probably aren't all that rosy on the Russian side, my guess is that Russian forces are increasingly becoming degraded and facing attrition in weapons and armaments with which to wage war effectively.
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in 2025, we took a little trip, along with President Zelensky down the mighty Dnipro
we took a liitle salo, and we took a liitle beans, and we fought the bloody russians over stolen blue jeans
we launched our drones, and the Russians kept a comin
down the dnipro to the chorny moira
we launched our drones and Russians started runnin
up the dnipro all the way to Rostov
yeee-haaaaaa
Odessa Yvray Self Protection Society and Conservatory Klezmer Band (available for Bar Mizvahs)
Krimster's Guide To Modern Warfare
1. always use local civilian "volunteers" for mine clearing purposes - otherwise helicoptors flying 30 feet above the ground at high speed to move strike squads short distances
2. the Kraken SDR Radio Direction Finder can change the war
http://youtu.be/3ugAT5BLBc0
organize Russian assault units to identify and target Ukrainian drone control transmitters who are all generally within 2 KM of the front lines
strike units are equipped with mortars and automatic grenade launchers - units attack GLASNOS coordinates of drone controllers detected by direction finders
they just play "wack-a-mole" whenever a signal "pops up"
if Russians suppressed Ukrainian drones by 50% it would have a HUGE impact on the war
OTOH, if Ukraine could DOUBLE it's production of FPV drones, it would also have a huge impact on the war
I suspect in terms of being "cost effective" funding Ukraine's drone program will give NATO "the most bang for the euro"
how will Trump avoid having to put sanctions on Putin at the end of the month, when Putin still does NOTHING to move towards "PEACE"?
so like tarriffs, I just assume Trump will change his mind, and do nothing, after Putin does nothing as well
it was a bluff
and Putin will call it
and Trump will fold
and blame it on Biden and Zelensky
PS
the momentum has clearly shifted to Putin's favor with Trump's return to power
Ukraine no longer has ANY HOPE of being able to achieve a military victory significant enough to defeat Russia
while Putin has a 3 year 9 month window to develop a strategy to BEAT Ukraine
another front + getting Belarus into the war might do it, without using Novichok
if Lukashenko thinks Putin will win, he'll go along with it to get some of the spoils, money, oil/gas/, territory
the Balkanization of Ukraine
if Ukraine is "divided-up" will Hungry "grab a piece" and then claim Article 5 to Russia?
so at least 1 NATO country, maybe more, will grab a piece of Ukraine, if it breaks apart...
plus Trump's minerals LLC for his sons
plus Chinese leasing farmland
let them all fight OVER Ukraine with Russia
winner takes all
which means Russia
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http://twitter.com/i/status/1911871893663002853
there's so many nested stories in this...
the media in this country doesn't want to touch what Russians did to this guy's mother with staged photos of her son's body, for fear of offending Trump
let's just say, they violated the geneva convention...a bit...
you are now ruled by a tyrant who can exile citizens to an El Salvadore Gulag and none of you nitwits speak a word of spanish, HOLA AMIGOS!!!!
c'est le question
Is Paris burning?
can the USA and Ukraine survive for 3 years and 9 more months
or not...
to be, or not to be
PS
so not only did the former Fox News Host turned Secretary of Defense
conduct invasion planning openly (AKA "signalgate"), but did so with another member of the administration who was on-line in RUSSIA at the time!!!! so Russians were listening and coulda warned Houthis over attack!!!!
dumb kopfs
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/4/15/2316601/-Russians-try-to-hack-NLRB-using-DOGE-created-account-and-password?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
and now "by coincidence" after Elon Musk gets access to federal databases, 10 minutes later Russians do as well
The Axis of Evil
is a lot closer than you think it is
the global oligarchy needs the USA's government to collapse from within to privitize it and to get rid of the global policeman and delete the old world order
to create "a new world order" of oligarch autocratic fiefdoms without oversight
Trump is the battering RAM, to tear down the existing middle-class social contract "new Deal"
to make you all become Mill Workers in a Dickens novel for the benfit of the plutocratic wall street class who should be considered social parasites and not rulers
slaves!!! throw off yur chains and rise up!!!!
I AM SPARTACUS
my son Bee Farmer is nick named "Spurtacus" for obvious reasons
PS
after Trump watched THIS
http://youtu.be/odFTqgm0984
he wanted CBS shutdown completely and it's staff arrested for this story, google it!!!!
Trump wants telling the TRUTH to be a CRIME
we are not 3 months into Trump's administration and it's already an epic display of incomptence, massive corruption and lying
and it's starting to seem like something REALLY sinister is going on with what Elon Musk is REALLY up to with DOGE, etc.
and DOGE has no oversight, no accountability....
there is NO WAY TO DELAY
that TROUBLE COMING YUR WAY
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Fighting the Oligarchs
“We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both.”
— Justice Louis D. Brandeis
dark money has insinuated itself into every corner of our politics to such a degree
THAT it controls EVERYTHING
elections are rigged through gerrymandering and voter supprssion
Why Trump?
the oligarchs are making a pre-emptive strike against future socialism
because they understand what's going to happen 10 years from now
make the government small enough NOW to drown in the bath tub
and you won't have to worry about them nationalising yur oil company in the 2030s
PS
if you were paying attention...
then you should understand that Putinism and Trumpism are the same thing
autocratic rule by oligarchy that makes people disposable maintained by a vast propaganda industry spreading lies to promote their own version of a fake reality
while attacking real journalists
In Russia, Putin can have a journalist shot on his Birthday
in the USA, Trump can threaten journalists with a lawsuit, throw you out of business, and prison like he's doing over "60 Minutes"
and NOW he can EXILE you to El Salvadore WITHOUT DUE PROCESS EVEN IF YOU ARE A US CITIZEN!!!!!!
not opposites...just difference of degree....
how far down the slope will America slide?
"write one or write many"
are you phuqueing kidding me? that's so 2001...
it's 2025 man...
career apocalypse, collapsing economy, war in Ukraine
get real...
The most important question to ask?
Are Americans prepared for the trauma that will accompany the collapse of one regime and the emergence of another.
while yur thinking about the FSU
you gonna end up living in the Former United States of America aka FUSA
gee, I guess you waited too long...
PS
and while all this is "going on"
it looks like a couple of hundred billion $ is going to be put into AI infrastructure...
think about it...
what is the "payoff" from this investment going to be?
hint: layoffs
layoffs and a regressive tax shift through tarriffs
ya'll are so phuqued you gonna need a whole case of rape test kits
cuz to Trump, EVERYBODY is just another Stormy Daniels that Trump's gonna screw and lie about
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http://youtu.be/-rVkoEaFbUY
PS
Russians are expecting "something major" to happen in Ukraine soon...
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dobre den Tovarische
oopsie - previous was wrong video from my Russian Doom Rock play list
note: all Russians by their nature are devoutly pessimistic, eta normalne
el correcto video
http://youtu.be/O3HRnwC6pso
PS
http://apnews.com/article/rubio-ukraine-russia-war-trump-a90e3e49c276b75ed2542f2f0422ddd6
it looks like the USA will abandon Ukrainian peace talks by the end of the month
Trump is ALREADY selectively removing Russian sanctions
and will look for ways to do BIZNESS with Russians and maneuver around sanctions while slowly eliminating them
Russia ALREADY gets the majority of it's artillery shells from North Korea - whose factories are working 24/7 for Russian Rubles
and China is secretly supplying it weapons in exchange for oil
and most of Russia's drones come from Iran
so Russia's logisitics are just fine, spossiba bolshoi for asking!
Ukraine now has a shortage of air defenses, which Phutin is exploiting
Ukraine has offered to use European money to buy Patriots, but Trump is refusing ANY American weapons to Ukraine, under any circumstance
because...he ummm prefers peace, yeah, that's it, he prefers peace, he is a GREAT humanitarian doncha know, and clearly NOT a Russian Asset known as Krasnov
all the people reading this, have no idea how phuqued they're gonna be in a couple of years
or how the world will change from a cornucopia of plenty to an empty basket seemingly overnight
or that a "little dark age" is coming
and all the world will betray thee
all for none
and none for all
PS
When a Banker jumps out of a window, jump after him--that's where the money is. -- Robespierre
Robespierre always "cracks me up" he's hilarious
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The Paris Peace Accords to end the Vietnam War took 5 years to negotiate. the great negotiator Trump couldn’t even last 100 days on Russia and Ukraine.
the Ukraine PEACE DEAL was at it's core, actually just total surrender to Russia, and Trump couldn't convince Zelensky to do it and also "step down"...that's why it failed
so Trump is NOW telling Europeans to accept Trump's plan to help Russia and stop supporting Ukraine
http://kyivindependent.com/trump-admin-fed-up-with-europes-efforts-to-strengthen-ukraine-economist-reports/
becuz Trump is a known Russian asset, who gets paid for his efforts on behalf of the Russian oligarchy,
all the way back to the time he ran an anti-NATO ad in the NY Times after he came back from Moscow,
Russia is all about $$$ for Trump
http://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security
DOGE has nothing at all to do with efficiency...that's a LIE
it's how oligarchs are launching their coup against the poor and middle class to eventually privitize everything to themselves
Trump is the wrecking ball to take down EVERYTHING from The New Deal to Civil Rights and business/environmental regulations
to prevent a future Socialist government led by OAC, from nationalising the oligarchy after the debt bomb implosion in the 2030s
the primary goal of the oligarchy is to break social security, and not "fix it", make sure it fails, so it can then be privitized to Wall Street
you will SOON be living in a dystopia and not realize it becuz you can still buy pizza (if you have any money)
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Trump's moan about Europe supplying Ukraine won't get anywhere and hasn't. It will just make those in the EU & UK more skeptical of his motives. Russia's economy is getting in a bad way, the boost it received from lots of government money being spent on military production is declining with declining government money for that military production:
http://fortune.com/europe/2025/04/10/russian-economy-grows-slowest-pace-2-years-plunge-oil-prices-could-make-things-much-worse/
Essentially as all of Russia's money has been spent (wasted) on the war and businesses in Russia go bust due to high inflation and interest rates, etc Russia gets in less tax money to spend on the war and so on. Russia has spent it currency reserves and is now in debt. The longer Russia continues this war the more it will see more economic indicators turn red. For Europe the longer the war continues the more it will bust up Russia's economy meaning Russia will be less of a threat in the future.
Russia getting military Armaments of North Korea & China will be costly for Russia one way or another. It's not a long term solution for Russia as it just busts up their economy more. Armaments supplies from North Korea & China are unlikely to give back Russia enough edge to win the war in the ground as they don't look like they are getting them in sufficient quantity. Ultimately Ukraine, the EU & UK just need to sit and hold on probably about until next year when Russia's economy gets into a real bad state. After that it's just a question of time until Russia snaps and falls apart.
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the definition of "infinity" in Russian
the level of economic pain the Russian masses will accept from Putin
Ukraine's tide is receeding faster than BeeFarmer's Hair Line
it's ALREADY lost 60+% of its foreign support
and the other 40% is NOW being pressured by Trump in multiple ways
once Trump walks away from the "Peace Treaty" LOL
then Putin has carte blanche to do WHATEVER HE WANTS TO UKRAINE
with no pushback from Trump
with Trump semi pulling out of NATO
it makes a NATO response to a Russian "Red Line" in Ukraine less likely, the USA would likely veto it anyway
like the use of Russian WMDs for instance
just like the Germans tried to get an advantage from WMDs in Ypres in 1915 with Fritz Haber's first ethnic cleanser called "chlorine"
Zyklon B came later
that's IG Farben for ya, "Better Dying Through Chemistry" und der Rhineland
don't put mustard gas on yur sandwich
the worst gas victims of WWI were the guys who got got mustard gas on their hands but didn't know it, cuz blister didn't start
but later, wiped their ass
and got some mustard gas on their anus
would end up killing themselves due to the pain they'd suffer
if Putin could start a new front from Belarus
and/or low level WMDS...like Novichok
and use WMDS first against the military, and then against civilian targets
start out small, and keep escalating
NATO will "blink"
Putin has a whole contraband economy run by his daughter
for bartering Russian raw materials for Chinese goods
Russia is exempt from tarriffs, so Trump and Putin may figure out a way to do BIZNESS reselling Chinese goods
at the VERY LEAST, Trump wants Russians to be able to sink a couple of billion$ into $TRUMP crypto
so he needs to find ways to generate this cash flow
starting next month, this will be Trump's focus with Putin, "how to do Bizness, what and where and when"
what sanctions can be removed and in exchange for what?
the whole Russian economy rotates around the needs of the war and Putin and NOT the needs of the people, Putin doesn't care, as long as the system functions
Russia feeds North Korea's and Iran's Rocket and Nuclear Programs + $billions in cash from oil and gas in exchange for billions$ in weapons and mercenaries
one hand washes the other
Europe probably spends as much on Russian oil and gas as it does on Ukraine
how's that going to be a winning strategy?
ergo...Ukraine is on "borrowed time"
by summer, I'd expect the militray tide to be rapidly turning away from Ukraine
becuz their resources are MORE depleted than Russia's
and IF...
Trump is successful in curtailing European support, in the next few months
then...it's more or less...over...
Zelenksky will be replaced by Poroshenko who will surrender the "5 territories" and "pinky swear" to never join NATO to TEMPORARILY END THE WAR
and all Russian sanctions will be lifted
the world ends with a whimper and not a bang
but then later...
ends with LOTS of EXPLOSIONS
the US Military is not prepared for a Chinese Drone War
the sky darkened by their immense numbers descending like locusts
produced in stunningly HUGE Chinese Communist Party mega-factories where robots work along side slave labor
to make mobile hypersonic cruise missiles and rockets by the ship loads
and years of production is being stockpiled
and EVERY SINLE ONE could be fired at every USA military asset in the pacfic in 60 minutes
leaving nothing but smoking ruins in Guam, Diego Garcia, South Korea, Japan, etc, etc
all at the same time
after the first hour, the USA has nothing to hit back with except for strategic nuclear forces and nuclear attack submarines
everything else in the Pacific is gone
Asia and Australia are at China's mercy
china hunts us submarines
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the definition of "infinity" in Russian
the level of economic pain the Russian masses will accept from Putin
Ukraine's tide is receeding faster than BeeFarmer's Hair Line
it's ALREADY lost 60+% of its foreign support
and the other 40% is NOW being pressured by Trump in multiple ways
once Trump walks away from the "Peace Treaty" LOL
then Putin has carte blanche to do WHATEVER HE WANTS TO UKRAINE
with no pushback from Trump
with Trump semi pulling out of NATO
it makes a NATO response to a Russian "Red Line" in Ukraine less likely, the USA would likely veto it anyway
like the use of Russian WMDs for instance
just like the Germans tried to get an advantage from WMDs in Ypres in 1915 with Fritz Haber's first ethnic cleanser called "chlorine"
Zyklon B came later
that's IG Farben for ya, "Better Dying Through Chemistry" und der Rhineland
don't put mustard gas on yur sandwich
the worst gas victims of WWI were the guys who got got mustard gas on their hands but didn't know it, cuz blister didn't start
but later, wiped their ass
and got some mustard gas on their anus
would end up killing themselves due to the pain they'd suffer
if Putin could start a new front from Belarus
and/or low level WMDS...like Novichok
and use WMDS first against the military, and then against civilian targets
start out small, and keep escalating
NATO will "blink"
the whole Russian economy rotates around the needs of the war and Putin and NOT the needs of the people, Putin doesn't care, as long as the system functions
Russia feeds North Korea's and Iran's Rocket and Nuclear Programs + $billions in cash from oil and gas in exchange for billions$ in weapons and mercenaries
one hand washes the other
Europe probably spends as much on Russian oil and gas as it does on Ukraine
how's that going to be a winning strategy?
ergo...Ukraine is on "borrowed time"
by summer, I'd expect the militray tide to be rapidly turning away from Ukraine
becuz their resources are MORE depleted than Russia's
and IF...
Trump is successful in curtailing European support, in the next few months
then...it's more or less...over...
Zelenksky will be replaced by Poroshenko who will surrender the "5 territories" and "pinky swear" to never join NATO to TEMPORARILY END THE WAR
and all Russian sanctions will be lifted
the world ends with a whimper and not a bang
but then later...
ends with LOTS of EXPLOSIONS
the US Military is not prepared for a Chinese Drone War
the sky darkened by their immense numbers descending like locusts
after the first hour, the USA has nothing to hit back with except for strategic nuclear forces and nuclear attack submarines
everything else in the Pacific is gone
Asia and Australia are at China's mercy
china hunts us submarines
Unless they get their hands on one of these:
http://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-troops-shoot-down-swarm-of-over-drones/
UK/EU help to Ukraine might not be as noticeable enough as first thought. Weapons such as these can turn the tide on the battlefront. Imagine if Ukrainian Drones could fly but Russian Drones were knocked out en-masse. That would then give Ukraine a battlefield advantage against Russia. They probably wouldn't need that battlefield advantage for long to break Russian forces in Ukraine.
If we think of how big a threat the Nazis became in Europe and that was just Germany. With the UK, France, Germany and the rest of the EU all acting together to help Ukraine I think that Ukraine has a good chance of winning. Russia's economy can be pushed on but it's output will continually fall which will undermine it's efforts at the front making it's efforts weaker & weaker over time. At the moment Russia is trying to cobble together what it can to keep up the offensive but it's beginning to lose power. In Pokrovsk already the Ukrainians are starting to push Russia back. Russia will only get worse over time in its military and in its economy.
Zelensky has turned out to be the ideal wartime leader, he is not willing to quit and be quietly beaten. To some extent he has little choice as his fate is probably largely tied with the war. In Ukraine there seems to be enough support among the people for Zelensky to avoid calls for Elections. Zelensky has played a skillful game so far dodging all the pitfuls that have come up. The West knows that winning against Russia is the long game that must be played in Ukraine. A sudden change of fate in Ukraine's favour too much too soon will make Putler more likely to move to unconventional warfare. However, over time if Russia's economy and military becomes degraded by an ebbing away that is less noticeable and less dramatic until Russia wakes up one day and realises things haven't worked out in Ukraine for it, then Russia will likely decide the game is up having gotten thoroughly fed up with the situation and leave, or changes in Russia at the top will take place to allow this to come about.
The next few weeks & months are crucial. If Ukraine can push back and show that Russia hasn't the power needed anymore then that will bolster Ukraine's position. It's allied will become emboldened and see that Russia can be beaten and no longer has the upper hand. At that point no one will want to know about agreeing to Russia's demands. That is what Russia is most trying to stop the world from seeing at the moment that it is becoming increasingly weak, too weak to be in any position to make demands.
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Trump/Putin's strategy is to cut-off Ukraine's logistics
starve the beast
the beast surrenders
and full-on Russian money laundering resumes in Real Estate and Crypto
after this week, the ONLY thing Trump is doing "about Ukraine"
is blackmailing European leaders into cutting Ukrainian support
meanwhile Trump has cut-off EVERYTHING the USA was providing Ukraine
AND put a tarriff on all Ukrainian exports but NOT Russian
AND has extorted Ukraine's most important assets for a privately owned NY LLC
and everybody is pretending this is "normal" and not the road to fascism
while the oligarchy is also ripping up The New Deal
meanwhile, America has had a mini-Maidan
this is just the beginning, it will grow and grow
the turning point will be when the protests are no longer peaceful
and instead of just a protest, it becomes an open revolt against Trump's fascism by the people
it's a big hill to climb
wait...and see...
it's in the slow "linear" phase now
it gets interesting only when it hits the "exponential" phase...maybe next year?
Trump lies about EVERYTHING
http://x.com/i/status/1914046258643419578
DOGE impact on the budget is MINIMAL
because it's NOT about efficiency, Elon is lying
it's meant to be a prelude towards privitization of the US government to the oligarchy
tarriffs paid for by the poor and middle class will be used to offset tax cuts to the billionaires
even with that, the USA will have a deficit of $2.5 to $3.0 trillion this year which will be added to the total
tarriffs drive up interest rates and add inflation
every intro to economics published in the last 75 years will have a chapter on why Trade Wars were ALWAYS disasterous and magnified the 1930s depression
Trump is doing it ANYWAY....
non-linear dynamics
you keep adding to the deficit and interest grows, the system is stable
until the interest on the debt exceeds all taxes collected...then it's unstable and game over
welcome to the 2030s
blueprint for the resistance
http://x.com/i/status/1914145333623349564
we need celebrity endorsements
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Trump's "end game" to work around Russian sanctions caused by the Ukrainian war is still to come
The US proposals presented to Ukraine in Paris last week envisage Washington's formal recognition of "The 5 Territories"
and the lifting of sanctions on the Russian Federation as part of a future deal.
In exchange, the Russian Federation would cease hostilities in Ukraine.
Zelensky has signaled that these terms are "not acceptable", it amounts to surrender
so...if Ukraine doesn't sign....nor does Russia
will Trump remove Russian sanctions anyway???
we'll find out by the end of next month
Putin is trying to "buy time" with Ukraine
for what purpose?
can he see into the future, and tell that later this year, Ukraine will have nothing to fight with?
and that shifts EVERYTHING to his favor, assuring his ultimate victory over Ukraine
the more Trump distances himself from Ukraine
the bolder it will make Putin, in terms of the amount of damage he'll inflict on Ukraine
I'd expect Putin to "kick it up a notch" after Victory Day
and things get "down and dirty"
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Trump's moan about Europe supplying Ukraine won't get anywhere and hasn't.
The EU doesn't even want to defend themselves, they think the USA should do that.
The EU sure isn't going to defend Ukraine, they sent more money to Russia than they
did Ukraine, for every year of the war. Who gives money to Putin? Trump or the EU?
Who is Putin's B!tch? Trump or the EU?
"Despite a range of sanctions and the threat posed by dependence on Russian energy, in the third
year of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in particular remain
largely unchanged, totalling EUR 21.9 bn, a 6% year-on-year drop in value but merely a 1% year-
on-year drop in volumes.
Notably, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in the third year of the invasion surpassed the
EUR 18.7 billion of financial aid they sent to Ukraine in 2024."
Source
http://energyandcleanair.org/publication/eu-imports-of-russian-fossil-fuels-in-third-year-of-invasion-surpass-financial-aid-sent-to-ukraine/
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The EU doesn't even want to defend themselves, they think the USA should do that.
The EU sure isn't going to defend Ukraine, they sent more money to Russia than they
did Ukraine, for every year of the war. Who gives money to Putin? Trump or the EU?
Who is Putin's B!tch? Trump or the EU?
"Despite a range of sanctions and the threat posed by dependence on Russian energy, in the third
year of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in particular remain
largely unchanged, totalling EUR 21.9 bn, a 6% year-on-year drop in value but merely a 1% year-
on-year drop in volumes.
Notably, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in the third year of the invasion surpassed the
EUR 18.7 billion of financial aid they sent to Ukraine in 2024."
Source
http://energyandcleanair.org/publication/eu-imports-of-russian-fossil-fuels-in-third-year-of-invasion-surpass-financial-aid-sent-to-ukraine/
Not all of that money in fuel revenue will find it's way into the Russian war machine. The Russian government will just take a percentage of the profit in tax, the rest will go to Oligarchs and their associates, to shareholders, etc.
The Russian economy has sky high inflation & interest rates. The EU/UK economy does not. Russia is wasting a lot of it's money on cruise missiles & drones to attack civilians in Ukrainian cities. Hitler used the same failed strategy to Blitz UK cities during WWII. It's ultimately a waste of resources and archives little. Russia is also using poor strategy in its war in Ukraine most of the way through it. That poor strategy will take it's toll and increasingly turn Russia into the losing force.
Overall, the money Russia will have to spend at the front is decreasing and they are increasingly relying on buying supplies from foreign countries at great expense such as North Korea & China as they struggle to produce their own. Western Armaments are helping to chew up most of any Armaments Russia can get to the front. Now Russia is starting to show signs of weakness in its fourth year of war in Ukraine.
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Not all of that money in fuel revenue will find it's way into the Russian war machine. The Russian
government will just take a percentage of the profit in tax, the rest will go to Oligarchs and their
associates, to shareholders, etc.
Is that what you tell yourself to feel better? The Euros cut off their nose to spite their face, but you
point out that a persons eyes are more important than their nose. The Euro's were never serious
about helping Ukraine or even their self militarily. The USA needs to leave NATO, it has outlived
it's usefulness. The USA is in too much debt to continue. It's far more important for the world
that our economy doesn't crash than to support Europeans inability to take care of themselves.
Hitler used the same failed strategy to Blitz UK cities during WWII. It's ultimately a waste of resources
The second that Ukraine uses their last anti-air missile, Ukraine will be only a half step ahead
of the Taliban. Russia can send it's big bombers to level everything in every city in Ukraine.
Germany never had air supremacy or even air superiority over the allies. Germany never had
a 4 engine heavy bomber, none of the axis powers did. You are comparing apples and oranges.
The allies bombed Germany and Japan nearly into dust. Was that a waste of resources?.
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Is that what you tell yourself to feel better? The Euros cut off their nose to spite their face, but you
point out that a persons eyes are more important than their nose. The Euro's were never serious
about helping Ukraine or even their self militarily. The USA needs to leave NATO, it has outlived
it's usefulness. The USA is in too much debt to continue. It's far more important for the world
that our economy doesn't crash than to support Europeans inability to take care of themselves.
The second that Ukraine uses their last anti-air missile, Ukraine will be only a half step ahead
of the Taliban. Russia can send it's big bombers to level everything in every city in Ukraine.
Germany never had air supremacy or even air superiority over the allies. Germany never had
a 4 engine heavy bomber, none of the axis powers did. You are comparing apples and oranges.
The allies bombed Germany and Japan nearly into dust. Was that a waste of resources?.
Putler Lova are we Beel lol.
Sitting there with a Red MAGA hat and Trump flag in hand? ;D
The EU/UK can defend itself without the help of the US against Russia.
Russia is in a very weak state now both economically and militarily. Add up all the conventional forces in the EU/UK and they will more than outmatch Russia in power. THE UK, Germany, France, Sweden, etc are the mig military powers in Europe. Combined with many other nations, Finland, Poland, Italy, Spain, etc they would be a formidable force against Russia's now shattered Army.
Only, the best way to defeat Russia is for Ukraine to do the job for us. Ukraine unfortunately wasn't given any choice in the matter. However, Ukraine has exhausted Russia over the course of the last three years of intense continuous heavy fighting. Russia has now lost most of its Armoured vehicles, tanks and artillery. It's force it large but largely untrained conscripts of poor quality and now poorly armed. UK/EU combined forces would easily kick their butt and seend them in full flight, but it's more strategically expedient for Ukraine to do this. Russia heading into 2026 with this war is going to be a wreck both economically and militarily. It's only a matter of time from there on out before they fall apart and have to chuck it in.
Germany in WWII would have gained air superiority over the UK that stood alone at the time had they not switched from targeting military airfields, etc and onto civilian targets. The RAF were days away from defeat when a wayward RAF bombing mission in Germany hit residential areas thinking it was the industrial/military target they were supposed to hit. That enraged the Germans and Luftwaffe tactics switched to targeting UK cities in reprisal. That gave the RAF time to recover and eventually gain the upper hand over the Luftwaffe. If it wasn't gif that quirk of fate we might all be speaking the modern German language in the UK today.
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Of course what you are forgetting Bill is that the US signed the Budapest Memorandum to guarantee and give assurances for Ukraine's territorial integrity in exchange for it giving up it's nuclear weapons. So yes the US should honour the assurances it gave in the Budapest Memorandum and keep giving Ukraine all the funding and armaments it needs or give Ukraine back nuclear weapons from its arsenal instead.
So whatever debt the US gets into backing Ukraine it is duty bound too due to the Budapest Memorandum. Otherwise if it's word means nothing the US should tell the world that so we all know not to sign such agreements with it ;)
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Putler Lova are we Beel lol.
Sitting there with a Red MAGA hat and Trump flag in hand? ;D
F#CK You, I don't like Putin, he is a murdering psychopath. Are you praying for Sharia Law?
That is what your country is doing. You can be sent to jail for a politically incorrect
Facebook posts. Are you sitting their with your Rajasthani Pagri and screaming
Ally Buck-tar? While sniffing around for underage boys and girls?
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The Budapest Memorandum
You know that the UK signed it as well. (France signed a separate agreement). If the USA didn't sign
the agreement, a corrupt general would have sold all of the nukes off to the highest bidder.
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F#CK You, I don't like Putin, he is a murdering psychopath. Are you praying for Sharia Law?
That is what your country is doing. You can be sent to jail for a politically incorrect
Facebook posts. Are you sitting their with your Rajasthani Pagri and screaming
Ally Buck-tar? While sniffing around for underage boys and girls?
:ROFL: I knew you would love that one Beel.
Only plus side of Muslims is that they like to give their women a good spanking :crackwhip: no feminist cr*p there lol
Well it looks like the signing of the minerals deal may help Ukraine a little. Looks like the US might be willing to supply a couple of Patriot missile systems and missiles to Ukraine:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/05/04/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest-news529/
These missile systems tend to last a while and help to protect Ukrainian cities a great deal. However every so often they get taken out eventually. Putler is likely spending a vast fortune on Cruise missiles and Russia stockpile if missiles is probably running low.
The upcoming Victory parade over Naxi Germany apparently will consist of some M90 tanks probably held back from Ukraine fresh out of the factory for the parade and will likely go to Ukraine soon after.
Ukraine probably has about one month's supply of US Armaments supply to go before that ends. However, those supplies from the US will probably keep it going for many months to come and then supplies from the UK/EU. Whether the US will be willing to supply anything else later remains to be seen.
It looks like Trump's concern is that Ukraine pays up to the US for any contribution in Armaments. If Ukraine can show that it is willing to pay the US and make payments then it could potentially regain supply of some Armaments from the US.
The war in Ukraine means that Armaments and ammunition get used constantly and fast. However, Russia has shown signs of falling behind recently in supply of suitable Armaments, Vehicles and equipment for its troops.
In addition the Russian economy is apparently heading towards meltdown :)
The US has recently signalled that it's peace treaty efforts are over as a result of the Russians rejecting it's proposals for Russia to take land along the present front line in Ukraine.
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Trump OKs First Cash Weapons Sale to Kyiv, Partly Lifts Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid
WASHINGTON DC – On Wednesday, the Trump administration informed Congress of its intention to green-light the export of defense-related products to Ukraine through direct commercial sales (DCS) of $50 million or more, Kyiv Post has learned from diplomatic sources.
The permission – the first of its kind since Trump returned to the White House over 100 days ago – comes just weeks after the administration paused all Ukraine-related military aid for review, emphasizing a new priority: leveraging US influence to end the conflict through diplomacy rather than prolonged military support.
http://www.kyivpost.com/post/51800
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Only plus side of Muslims is that they like to give their women a good spanking :crackwhip: no feminist cr*p there lol
But you aren't a Muslim, your post here could be construed as an attack on wimmin so off to
jail for you. Don't worry, I am a free speech advocate, so I would never tell. If it weren't for
double standards they would have none at all.
12,000 Brits Arrested Every Year over Social Media Posts
http://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2025/04/07/3286723/12-000-brits-arrested-every-year-over-social-media-posts
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A good article on weapons supply to Ukraine Bill. Yes the state control here in the UK at present is truly shocking I agree.
These are the articles I am loving most though at the moment:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2049626/russia-economy-mortgage-defaults-banks?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
http://news.online.ua/en/russia-is-on-the-verge-of-an-unprecedented-economic-crisis-due-to-the-war-against-ukraine-what-is-known-893116/
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/russian-economy-meltdown-as-gas-and-electricity-bills-soar-40-and-mortgage-rates-rocket/ar-AA1E7Njw
Russia really is heading towards economic collapse and we know what that means :D
Victory Day Parades over Russia could be just around the corner in Ukraine!
The economic meltdown happening in Russia at the moment is just the start of it. As time passes from here on out the Russian economy will just get worse and worse and panic & chaos will ensure. Economic collapse will bring with it big upheavals in Russia as Russia becomes an unstable country. A break up of Russia could potentially result from all of this, at the very least a change in government is almost certain. This is just the start of the economic collapse so the stories & developments coming out of Russia going forward are likely to be very exciting in the months to come. Definitely stay tuned for this one, big economic turmoil and upheavals in Russia are sure to come!
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" I am a free speech advocate..."
unless someone else is speaking
"double standards they would have none at all."
of course...you have high moral standards, BUT...
they just don't apply to you
The Krim Reaper was here
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" I am a free speech advocate..."
unless someone else is speaking
It always makes me laugh when someone says that we have free speech, but you know that they usually mean so long as we all think the same thing as I do lol 😂
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ZAPAD-25
In September, Russia and Belarus will hold another “Zapad” military exercise, with roughly 15,000 Russian soldiers taking part and an unknown number of Belarussians
This year’s exercise, Zapad-2025, will be the first full-scale drill of its kind since Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022
the last ZAPAD exercise was in 2021, 5 months prior to the invasion
After Zapad 2021, a post-mortem report points out there was a “buildup of troops and vehicles at a training range near the Ukrainian border that were not used as part of previous exercises.
From an analyst perspective, this should have been an extremely powerful signal to Ukraine about what was coming.
Even IF Putin is NOT using this to open a new front in September, Ukraine has no choice but to prepare for it as a precaution, which will take resources away from somewhere else
Zelensky stated the concern about Zapad-25 and the possibility of a buildup of Russian troops in Belarus at the February Munich Security Conference.
At the time, he claimed Russia would deploy 15 divisions, totaling 100,000 to 150,000 troops—primarily in Belarus—and that they would be placed there not as part of an exercise but in preparation for a major military escalation.
between now and September, look for any public mention of a larger than 15,000 russian force in Belarus
impossible for Russia to keep this a secret
PS
Russia's military fighting Ukraine, more closely resembles an armed mob than a professional military
the war is essentially between these armed Russian mobs making Kamakazi attacks cross the front line who are opposed mainly by Gen Z Ukrainian drone operators
it's like a video game for them
the drone war is opening a LOT of eyes everywhere both in terms of defense and offense
we're not talkin about the USA's $50 million MQ-9 reaper drone
we're talkin $300 worth of parts to make an FPV kamakazi drone with an IED
50% of ALL Russian casualties are produced from these drones
there's a HUGE "cottage industry" of building these from parts in Ukraine
The USA under Biden bought an ENORMOUS amount of drone parts from China for Ukraine
I expect China would prefer Russia doesn't know about this
I wonder who the "straw buyers" for Ukraine are now
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it's looking more and more likely that Russia will use Zapad-25 to launch an attack on Ukraine from Belarus
Russians are stockpiling equipment of the Finnish border to protect it from Ukrainian attack, cuz Ukraine won't "overfly" Finland to attack it
it can be quickly routed to Belarus
peace treaty is just Putin stalling for time
need to see if Belarus will join Russia or not
Russia's FOREX fund that's used for external financing of munitions, will be exhaused in 6 more months, due to lack of oil and gas sales
but Russia has a $200 billion USD gold stockpile that China would love to get their hands on that can be used to buy munitions
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it's looking more and more likely that Russia will use Zapad-25 to launch an attack on Ukraine from Belarus
Russians are stockpiling equipment of the Finnish border to protect it from Ukrainian attack, cuz Ukraine won't "overfly" Finland to attack it
it can be quickly routed to Belarus
peace treaty is just Putin stalling for time
need to see if Belarus will join Russia or not
Russia's FOREX fund that's used for external financing of munitions, will be exhaused in 6 more months, due to lack of oil and gas sales
but Russia has a $200 billion USD gold stockpile that China would love to get their hands on that can be used to buy munitions
That's good news, once that money is spent, it's spent and Russia will be in an even weaker position in which to conduct the war and more importantly to hold the country together. The more economic indicators that are blinking red the deeper in the economic sh*t Russia becomes. At some point possibly next year and I would guess almost certainly the year after if not by then Russia's economy will totally fall apart and break up with economic catastrophe every. Banks that go bust, a worthless Ruble, food shortages, economic woes everywhere and little that will be able to be done as everywhere will be so busted.
Here is a recent report on Russia's economy, it shows as you have said before Krim that Russia is hiding a lot of it's economic problems and it's not in a good place:
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-economy-worse-shape-than-moscow-says-report-eu-shows-2025-05-13/
There's only so long Russia can hold on for, the longer it continues its war in Ukraine the worse shape it's economy will become as money goes to fund that war, gets used up and makes Russia economically weaker and weaker. Only a matter of time, all Ukraine and the West have to do is hold on, the worst they can do is agree to peace that would let Russia off the hook and risk passing a win to Russia where economic defeat is looming them in the face just perhaps months to a year or so away.
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Putin is the butcher who has a "meat wave military" powered by a "meat wave economy"
in Russia, slave virtues like obedience have great survival value
free men will ALWAYS be willing to FIGHT for their freedom, no matter the price
but Russians ain't NEVER been a free people
thankyou ancestors for leaving
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reality sucks...
now it sucks even more
and in the future, it's gonna suck a lot worse than today
see, I know
but ya'll won't want me talk about the deal Putin and Xi Jinping have worked out in regards to a Naval Blockade of Taiwan a couple of years from now that must be done before Trump leaves office
the USA is preparing for it to happen in 2 years
in view of the cost benefit analysis of fighting goat eating Houthis, who haven't figured out how to build a 3 story house yet
a war with China is ridiculous
we are just reinforcing our OWN defenses in case "things get out of hand" and we have a short but INTENSE conventional war with China over the blockade
that's WHY we forced Taiwan to build a TSMC factory in the USA, cuz Trump is gonna dump Taiwan when the rubber hits the road
Trump has finally stated the obvious
it's not "saving young lives" he's after,
NO, the war is an obstacle to foreign trade with Russia and Trumps' own profiteering
that's WHY he wants to end it, by whatever means he can
and have Putin give him the credit
Trump's threats to put new sanctions on Putin was all bluff
Trump was hoping he could use trade leverage to influence Putin to move away from China to the USA
but Xi Jinping was WAY AHEAD of him, and already made Putin a better offer he "could't refuse"
Russia/China/North Korea in the Pacific
Iran and friends in the Red Sea
2 to 3 years from now
if the USA withdraws from NATO, Russia will advance towards Europe sometime in the next decade, if everything works out with China and Iran
If Trump was after getting Russia onside in any future war by doing deals on Ukraine it was always going to be a tough play. The very nature of Russia being more predisposed to want to move into Europe. China being more predisposed to move into the Pacific (Taiwan, South China Sea, etc). As far as I am aware there isn't a big history of disputed territory between Russia & China or a big want for territory along their border. That's not to say they don't see each other as potential threats as they are both next to one another but even in Soviet times there was co-operation between the two.
China I think will sell to anyone who has the money and will do deals with anyone where it sees that it will gain in its interests.
For the West the better option is to make sure that the war continues in Ukraine, that they keep supplying Ukraine and that Russia ideally has to end up chucking in the war through it's economy imploding. The best result of course is Russia breaking up through that economic implosion. The worst thing it can do is get to a peace deal now. A future Russia or Russian area that is so economically destroyed means it won't be joining China in any future war. The West dealing with it's enemies one by one is the best and easiest way of gaining victory over it's enemies rather than them joining forces and having to deal with them all at once. Russia probably only has about one year's worth of warfare left before it's economy implodes, maybe a bit more or a bit less, probably two years absolute maximum I would have thought.
Iran is one country that can be easily picked off in the near future from a potential Russia, China, North Korea, Iran Axis. Russia is getting in a position of being too weak to help Iran. China & North Korea are too far away from Iran and likely won't care about Iran anyway. Iran has lost Syria, the West has Israel as an ally in that area and Iran probably isn't that difficult a nut to crack. If it were me my preference would be for the West & Israel to totally hammer Iran with missiles, degrade it's military, infrastructure, state control structures, etc. Then dissident forces can rise up and the West can help them topple the regime. Even Iran in a mess being hammered by missiles means that it will be in no fit state to take part in any world war even if it is just in a supply of weapons basis.
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Iran will be launching Chinese missiles at the US Navy, and China will be launching Chinese missiles at the US Navy
dewds with wooden shoes will cut the Alaskan pipeline, keystone pipeline in USA
mexican cartels will be paid to attack Texas and Lousiana petro industry
the chickens are starting to come home now
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latest update....
not surprisingly, everything I told ya here on RWD, where NO topic is too outlandish to discus "what's happening"
is now starting to appear in the media
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-tells-trump-he-won-t-consider-peace-deal-because-russia-is-on-the-verge-of-victory/ar-AA1Fgna4?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=682ffb26c56d434c8c3bd2aa5f898aa7&ei=22
Trump to NOT impose Russian sanctions
Putin says he doesn't care about Peace, cuz he's on the edge of victory
separate source
all foreigners in Russia must get a tracking device at customs clearance
and carry it at all times
for their own safety LOL!
remember the movie "Red Dawn" and the Russian tracker?
life immitates art - the chicken came first THEN laid an egg
the collapse of Weimar led to a chain of unfortunate events including "regime change"
this historic pattern will repeat, watch in a theater near you, starring you as well
I may be cursed by the authorities, and exiled or crucified in some other way
by I still wanna warn ya...from now on, keep yur eyes wide open and look both ways....
Torah Numerology
George Orwell
2025 minus 1984 = 41
In the Bible, 41 is used to represent the end of a period of hardship or waiting, leading to a positive outcome.
For example, after 40 days and nights of rain, the sun reappeared on day 41, and the ark came to rest.
Similarly, after 40 years in the wilderness, the Israelites entered the Promised Land on the 41st yea
we will be entering a period of hardship and will have to endure it for awhile
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Putler thinks he is about to gain victory in Ukraine without a peace deal but there is no sign of it. Ukrainian forces are entrenched roughly where they have been for many months now. Ukrainian drones are hitting the Russian Capital Moscow en-masse and elsewhere. It would be like Hitler claiming victory with RAF bombs hitting the Reich's Chancellery, kind of ludicrous.
Recent news reports back up the bad state of the Russian economy and Armaments situation:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2058758/russia-economy-brink-putin-tanks-ukraine-war
For sure Russia will no doubt persist over the next year by buying off China etc, but after than they are all out with a busted economy.
Main issue for Ukraine is where it's going to get funding from probably going into Winter onwards. US support runs out soon, possibly Ukraine might be able to do deals or buy upfront stuff from the US. Other than that it's down to the UK/EU to cough up further funds as by Winter existing UK/EU funds might be starting to run out. If Putler has about $200bn or so to spend with China, etc then that will probably take Russia into next year of war before that starts to run out. Then Putler is in a bad situation.
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Apparently Russian troop losses are now nearing 1 million:
http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/05/26/russias-casualties-in-its-war-against-ukraine-near-1-million-troops-kyiv-says
That is probably correct going from previous figured, rough idea of daily battlefield loses (apparently up to 1000 Russian troop losses per day). While Russia can always bring up more men their issue is that it often means higher labour costs in its economy through labour shortages. There is also the quality of men that are left to call up, increasingly they may be unfit, in poor health, old, etc.
Ukrainians troop losses may be nearing on 400,000 in comparison. I feel bad for guys that are thrown into such a situation it must be pretty terrible. Again it feels bad to talk about the dating issue in such circumstances and as things are at the moment with me it's not needed but the pure factual side of it is that there are likely to be less men to women in Ukraine & Russia as a result of this war.
I anticipate that anything much over 300,000 thousand troop losses in Ukraine spread out across Ukraine while only a chip in the total male population in Ukraine in the millions is likely enough at the dating age group to cause a slight shortfall of men in most towns & cities across Ukraine. In essence only a small shortfall is probably needed to cause an issue with women feeling the shortage of men and increased competitiveness among women for men.
In other news apparently now Ukraine has been given permission from all countries to use their long range missiles to fire at military facilities in Russia. It's thought that if may help Ukraine's position in the war.
Russia is still pretty much bogged down along it's present battlefield lines in Ukraine and hasn't made much progress in many months. It really looks like Russia is beating itself up over very little gain in Ukraine and doing itself no favours.
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hard to know the truth in absolute numbers
90 % of the Russian WIA are sent back to the front, and can show up in the statistics again
my estimate is Russia has suffered 2 Vietnams in terms of human casualties
if Russia was the USA there would be massive rioting in every city
but...it's Russia
same 'ole Stalinism, where every citizen had to guard every single word and deed
Russians all know how to be "model prisoners"
spies are freakin everywhere, they even watch the wives of soldiers
to see if they spread "propaganda" about losses, conditions, etc
slaves create slave masters
Russia is the world's biggest plantation
some Russians are "house slaves" and some are "field slaves"
but they is all slaves
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Ukraine hitting Russia hard now right where it hurts:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgrg7kelk45t
The damage/destruction of those bomber planes are going to cost Russia a lot of money, they don't come cheap these days.
These strikes are deep into Russian territory right across Russia. Along with drones Ukraine are using cruise missiles making full use of the recent change to being able to use them to hit military sites deep in Russia. A continuing campaign like this is likely to see the Russian military seriously degraded over time making them less able to bomb Ukraine and potentially leaving opportunity for instability at home if it becomes a case that Russia no longer has the military ability to keep down insurgent groups.
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The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
http://x.com/i/status/1928883001724666180
LOL!
the last Tu-95 bomber rolled outta the broken down factory over 30 years ago!
kinda like B-52s (not the band)
there will be a temporary reduction of air launched cruise missiles, until Russia fills the gap
Russia is building reserves and turning the reserves into a surprise "strike force"
Putin's strategy is to repeat Stalingrad at Kharkiv
Putin wants a Putingrad
Hiding equipment near Finland to block Ukrainian attacks from the West
20,000+ in Belarus
50,000 near Kharkiv
vrs thousands of Ukrainian teenagers with drones
Ukrainian drone logistics is freakin amazing
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WATCH: Ukraine smuggles 'hidden drones' to stage explosive attack on Russian aircraft
(http://www.wnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/drones-ukraine-russia-smuggled-in-homes-web-jpg.jpg)
Ukraine secretly smuggled a large number of drones into Russia to carry out a large-scale attack on Moscow's military aircraft Sunday, according to numerous reports.
The Kyiv Independent reports: "An operation by Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) using FPV drones smuggled deep into Russian and hidden inside trucks has hit 41 Russian heavy bombers at four airfields across the country," a source in the agency told the news outlet.
A year-and-a-half in the planning, the operation codenamed "Web" is said to be a major blow to the aircraft Russia uses to launch long-range missile attacks on Ukraine's cities.
http://www.wnd.com/2025/06/watch-ukraine-smuggles-hidden-drones-to-stage-explosive-attack-on-russian-aircraft/
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'Russian bombers are burning en masse' — Ukraine's SBU drones hit 'more than 40' aircraft in mass attack, source claims
(http://assets.kyivindependent.com/content/images/2025/06/Screenshot-2025-06-01-at-13_46_02.webp)
An operation by Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) using first-person-view (FPV) drones smuggled
deep inside Russian and hidden inside trucks has hit 41 Russian heavy bombers at four airfields
across the country, a source
in the agency told the Kyiv Independent on June 1.
The operation — codenamed "Spider web" and a year-and-a-half in the planning — appears to have
dealt a major blow to the aircraft Moscow uses to launch long-range missile attacks on Ukraine's cities.
"The SBU first transported FPV drones to Russia, and later, on the territory of the Russian Federation,
the drones were hidden under the roofs of mobile wooden cabins, already placed on trucks," the source
said.
read all about it here
http://kyivindependent.com/enemy-bombers-are-burning-en-masse-ukraines-sbu-drones-hit-more-than-40-russian-aircraft/
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That's some great pics Beel. Here is another article with some more info on it all and a pic of the big mother f*cker Tu-95's etc that they hit:
http://www.euronews.com/2025/06/01/ukraine-reportedly-strikes-down-over-40-russian-strategic-bombers-in-mass-drone-attack
Looks like the bigger they come the easier they are to hit. Bet they caught the Russians napping with their trousers down. The look on their faces when all that went down must have been priceless :D
Imagine how much much that all cost the Russian government when it went up in flames! Calculator please :)
The nature of warfare has definitely changed and looks lucky for Ukraine that it did. As the article states Ukraine has apparently developed a drone capable of flying 3000 km to its target. No longer are big bombers, tanks and artillery a massive asset but a liability creating a nice large target more than it being a nice big weapon as it once was.
If Ukraine can keep hitting Russia like this it can seriously weaken the Russian State to a point where it becomes incapable and starts falling apart. Russia's worsening economy will couple with that and Russia could find itself in a seriously bad place within the year. Exciting times ahead when things in Russia get so bad that internal power plays start occurring and sh*t really hits the fan.
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Well lets hope the course of war is changing. On russian-speaking sites russians are already complaining about drones hitting buildings. They are in shock as if they didn't know a war has been going on for years.
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asymetrical warfare
NOBODY has REALLY learned it yet, because of how quickly it changes
the bigger yur enemy is, the harder they will fall
attack from within and you automatically bypass defenses
everybody is waitin on the period of time when they got them Novichok Drones
ukraine has assembled and deployed 50,000 drones per month for quite awhile
ya'll remember how proud the USA was of "homefront" industrial production
for every drone operator sitting in the mud on the front
there's 20-30 assemblers, transporters, accountants, etc
all organisms tend to "speciate"
so there are species of drone operators
some only hunt other drone operators with radio detection gear
that's why they're switching to fiber optics
fiber optic drones are jam-proof, EMP-proof, fly low
like a slow TOW missile - Israel was the first to make an "optical TOW" instead of wire guided
Israel will design Gold Dome for ya'll, and will setup an "American Company" for this purpose
They already got Space Lasers and used for the first official "shoot-down"
I hope they tape a plastic shark at the end of the laser
so sharks with frickin lasers are shootin down Hamas flying pipe bombs launched from playgrounds, ohhh the humanity
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Russia planned operation "Zeus' Lightning", largest-ever cruise missile attack on all of Ukraine for the night of June 1 to force Ukraine's hand at Istanbul the next day.
Ukraine's Operation Spiderweb destroyed many of these very bombers, already fueled, hours before they were to take-off.
picture the Oklahoma City bombing
but instead of cheap Urea, you use RDX, which is more than twice as powerful and mix it with some fine aluminum powder to sustain the blast wave longer
and you place this on two pillars of the Kerch Bridge, WHILE Russian security is watching
and then set it off
guess what? This happened like 12 hours ago...two tons of Torpex exploded on the Kerch Bridge
somebody call Rotenberg's Bridge Repair Service at OU812
how ya'll gonna transport kartoshkie to krim, eh????
Crimean Canal still down, ain't got no voda or vodka or kartoskie?
welcome to Russki Mir
Russian Blues Singer at the Apocalypse Bar
my lada is outta gaz
and no taters
ahhhh RODINA ya lub lu....
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Let me see if you need translation of this funny meme
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the math behind Putin's Future Victory
Russian casualties shown on a linear time scale
under Biden, it was increasing, until $Trump took office, and then began to decrease after that
In Numeris Veritas
PS
about 20% of all IP addresses in Ukraine, are under control of Russians
all you poor boys could make a fortune in Ukraine right now or in any of the 'stans
but yur too stoopid, and that's why yur poor
ya got no creativity, no imagination, no desire
you're all weak and worthless men
and that's why yur incels
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Lafayette, we are here!!!
French drone company to open factory in Ukraine to make drones for French and Ukrainian armies
moy druzya, Ukraine is now the drone capital of the entire planet
gutter-gaunt gangsta gopnicks, thumb candy, FPV game screen
crawling in the mud of the dark fertile Ukrainian soil
http://x.com/i/status/1931318406306807812
the effects of drone warfare on Ukrainian civilians
imagine if you were piloting a drone intercaptor in Ukraine
Flying Squirrel Squadron
Belka Let-yaga
and it's Friday Night, time to PAR-TY!!!!
PS
based on the numbers, Putin's strategy for VICTORY in Ukraine, is Donald Trump
the question is, how will Putin escalate the war, given the opportunity caused by the recent attacks on airfields and Kerch Bridge
and the lack of logistics for Ukraine and reduced US support
China and Russia both have a window of opportunity for the next 3.5 years
Putin will wait and see how much his casualties decline by the end of summer
this is "a tell"
Russian, North Korean, China, Iran factories are all workin 24/7 to re-supply Putin
when Putin runs out of foreign reserves at the end of the year, he has $250 billion in gold he can sell China
Ukraine has already defaulted on some of it's bonds
it's 41 UAH to the dollar and rising now because of default
in a couple of months there will be a lot of tension and anxiety over Zapad-25
Ukraine will have to divert defenses to the North, in case of a surprise attack from Belarus in September
this will weaken the defense lines around Kherson and Kharkiv
Putin will then bring down all the equipment he moved next to Finland to block it from drone attack
the current Russian "tactical doctrine" is almost an exact copy of the Viet Minh "infiltrator" attacks on US firebases in the 1960s
Gen IV night vision and long range motion detectors tied into a communications network and bluetooth headsets for snipers is all the rage
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So, to be clear, Musk has now admitted he funded a man he believes to be a pedophile to be president.
And Trump has now admitted that he gave access to high level government secrets to a man he believes to be a major drug addict.
which is all perfectly normal, because every institution in America is failing now
and meanwhile...almost every economist/business analyst is telling you we're headed for a cliff
yet...
if I say that on RWD
and tell RWD readers...
that what I was tallin ya'll is gonna be MORE relevant to yur future, than ANYTHING ELSE you will EVER read on RWD
I am censored for it....
can you explain WHY?
cuz I can't....
you just gotta do a quick scan of the news to understand the veracity of my words and their meaning
what are ya'll afraid of?
why stick yur heads in the sand?
why punish the messenger cuz ya don't like his message?
yur silence is yur confession
the people UNITED, can NEVER be defeated
we must all "hang together" or surely we shall all hang separately
Solidaroz
El Muchacho Che Krimster
Viva La Revolution
I didn't cross no border
The border crossed me, holmes....
don't you miss watching the kid's cartoons?
http://x.com/i/status/1931637328793194733
Ammo Dump Jesus and the tale of the Hidden Drones
the shoreline at Lake Toropets Family Recreational Area
there were drones driving ladas to the Dmitrovsk Metro
when the cossacks set their drones free
and samichkee sellin baboshkie make the sign of the cross
smoke across the Water and fire in the sky
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both Trump and Musk are an embarrassment and their exchange shows corruption at high levels: "you would not win elections without me", "we will save billions if we stop giving you government contracts and subcidies"
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Trump does a favor for Putin
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-s-white-house-redirects-thousands-of-missiles-meant-for-ukraine-s-use-zelenskyy-says/ar-AA1GlIGD?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=3c42ab1b442d494c82407085049838bf&ei=147
after whispering "sweet nothings in Trump's ear" in the latest Trump/Pooty Poot "Deal-O-Rama" phone call
Putin gets Trump to divert Ukrainian aid to anywhere but Ukraine
Trump and Pootin use the military to squash public dissent to their rule
Putin pretends he is fighting nazis in Ukraine
and Trump pretends he is fighting communists in LA
Elon Musk used an untraceable starlink terminal to steal federal data and sold it to the Russians in exchange for minerals
Elon Musk's father is currently in Moscow meeting with Russians
Putin has offered Elon sanctuary
next big date is 6-14-25
don't put yur faith in dollars
in the future, suitcases full of dollars, won't even buy you a small coke
gazillions of people losing their jobs, houses, cars, health insurance
it'll be dangerous to walk down any American city street at night
ban me if ya don't like what I'm tellin ya
but I ain't WRONG about what I'm saying
I always told ya'll, i'm just reading the writing that's on the wall, I didn't write it, I is just readin it
so ban me cuz I'm literate and a Marxist
Marx and Orwell are my prophets
and ya'll REALLY oughta listen to what they had to say
armegeddon is NOT gonna be what ya think
but it's still gonna be REALLY bad
http://youtu.be/qR7RqNJxQBM
those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it
every oligarchy is "fascism curious" just like ours became
slovo
http://youtu.be/VJWJcjOISak
whatcha all lookin at?
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Ukraine has done it again and struck a big blow against Russia using drones this time to take out tanks and armoured vehicles that were on their way to reinforce the front:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-military-war-2082437
No doubt a big deal for Ukrainian guys at the front, it means that Russia will lack the tanks and armoured vehicles necessary to mount any possible effective offensive. This will seriously weaken Russia's ability at the front in the short term when it was no doubt hoping to use such Armaments to try and take Pokrovsk. Those plans are hopefully in tatters now :)
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Russian, North Korean, China, Iran factories are all workin 24/7 to re-supply Putin
when Putin runs out of foreign reserves at the end of the year, he has $250 billion in gold he can sell China
I can see China becoming very wealthy and more powerful in receipt of most of that money & gold. That potentially could make China a bigger threat and eventually Russia a lesser threat over time.
An interesting article on Russia's estimated battlefield losses to date:
http://odessa-journal.com/total-russian-combat-losses-over-the-past-day-1120-soldiers-240-uavs-and-34-artillery-systems
Looks like Russia is nearing one million infantry battlefield losses in one way or another, a quite shocking number.
So much military Armaments lost also, that is bound to weaken Russia a lot long term along with it's economy.
The Chinese are craftily taking advantage.
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the core of every American city looks like a garbage strewn industrial slum from the 19th century....
while Chinese cities look even more impressive than Dubai and are powered by 4th generation nuclear reactors
that's reality
all this "Make America Great" is nothing more than an ironic JOKE being played on every American by a confederacy of monied clowns
China surpassed the USA a long, long time ago
American businessmen who wanted to exploit cheap chinese labor for their own $$$$ to get at the expense of American workers
ended up being exploited by China
China owns the means of production
China owns the means of design and development
American capital built China's factories
and Chinese factories produced American products
then IT ALL became CHINESE!!!! and NOT AMERICAN!!!!
the oligarchy didn't care, as long as they made money
not knowing....
that one day....they're gonna lose EVERY BIT OF IT!
the capitalists were EASILY outplayed by COMMUNISTS
let that be a lesson to all you working class people
when all you poor people get hungry enough
I invite you all to EAT THE RICH!!!!
a pendulum is at the focus of a balance between two forces
when one force declines to ZERO, it switches to increase in the opposite direction
it's like an alternating current
the profits of Jesus
Marx Brothers
Bank Freud
and Poisonous Plankton
PS
what to do after kiev?
http://www.amazon.com/Disposable-Premium-Waterproof-Recyclable-Booties/dp/B0DF84HTWZ/ref=asc_df_B0DF84HTWZ?mcid=5f22ed8b6b413cfeb27f104545024674&hvocijid=16341479438184974174-B0DF84HTWZ-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16341479438184974174&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027703&hvtargid=pla-2281435177858&th=1
wear these over yur shoes so ya don't track radiation inside, same for yur hands
ponelle?
don't forget to stop at "The Exclusion Zone" Mini-Mart and get some stamps and cards at the register
have yur translator look at "the Bulletin Board" out front for things that might be of "interest" that get posted ONLY there!!!!
less than a 2 hour drive from kiev
don't do ANY digging whatsover, bring a comfortable respirator
OTOH, some benefit of being a geezer and not giving a phuque
I will spit in death's eye and call him a faggot or my name is not 2TallBill, come and git me
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A lot of Westerners don't realise that if Ukraine wasn't fighting the Russians there is a fair chance that the West would directly be fighting the Russians. So the Ukrainians are really doing us a big favour in fighting the Russians instead of our own people having to fight the Russians. I reckon if Ukraine can hang on in there for another year or so until the Russian economy collapses and Russia is forced to throw in the towel then for us WWII might have just been avoided thanks to the efforts and sacrifices of the Ukrainian people and our help of course backing them up.
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Krimster's FOREX for American Running Dogs and other Canines
Dollars and SENSE!!!
Even when they win, they also LOSE
In the first quarter of 2025, Russian banks recorded a total loss of RUB 149 billion (approx. US$1,8 billion) from currency revaluation due to the rouble’s appreciation.
Over the course of three months, the rouble strengthened by 21.5%, leading to a negative revaluation of banks’ foreign currency assets amounting to RUB 2 trillion (US$25 billion).
While currency liabilities also decreased as exchange rates fell, the reduction was smaller. The resulting gap in the open currency position (the difference between foreign currency assets and liabilities) narrowed to US$1.1 billion for the quarter.
By the end of May 2025, the Russian rouble’s exchange rate had risen significantly, surpassing RUB 78 per US dollar, marking a two-year high.
so now, they want to get rid of their FOREX reserves cuz Rubley are worth more to the arms exporters
and they can pay in Rubley
just run the presses 24/7 and get new presses and then even more and more
hahahahahaha!!!!
and the walls...come tumble-ing down
one day ya'll gonna be drivin to 7-11
and the radio is gonna start screaming about Armegeddon
slovo te mama, suka
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Iran's retalion to Israel is to fire hundreds of missiles in salvos hoping to overwhelm Iron Dome
Russia will not be seeing any new Iranian Cruise Missiles or Drones for the next few months
oil prices are increasing
Russian shadow tankers sailing to Shang Hai returning with weapons from People's Liberation Army
it'll take a long time to reconfigure Russian centrifuge's to HEU in Iran
they have enuff for a few bombs, and some plutonium
Israel has more nuclear warheads already stockpiled and F-22 and F-35 for delivery
nothing really left of hamas or hezbollah, west bank will stay out of the fight
if Iran tries to cut-off Hormuz the USA will join the fight against Iran
with B-1 an B-2 bombers carrying earth penetrating "bunker busters"
Israel and USA plan is to COMPLETELY DESTROY Iran's nuclear capability
while Israel is increasing it's stockpile
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Iran's retalion to Israel is to fire hundreds of missiles in salvos hoping to overwhelm Iron Dome
Russia will not be seeing any new Iranian Cruise Missiles or Drones for the next few months
oil prices are increasing
Russian shadow tankers sailing to Shang Hai returning with weapons from People's Liberation Army
it'll take a long time to reconfigure Russian centrifuge's to HEU in Iran
they have enuff for a few bombs, and some plutonium
Israel has more nuclear warheads already stockpiled and F-22 and F-35 for delivery
nothing really left of hamas or hezbollah, west bank will stay out of the fight
if Iran tries to cut-off Hormuz the USA will join the fight against Iran
with B-1 an B-2 bombers carrying earth penetrating "bunker busters"
Israel and USA plan is to COMPLETELY DESTROY Iran's nuclear capability
while Israel is increasing it's stockpile
It's wonderful news that Israel is now attacking Iran and taking away their nuclear capability. Like I was saying a few months ago if Iran is hit with enough missiles by Israel/the West in the right places, all of its state control infrastructure then it may destabilise the regime enough and allow for insurgent groups to challenge it and possibly take control, maybe even split the country up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93ydeqyq71t
Apparently Iran has around 2000 ballistic missiles. As we saw last year when they fired a few hundred off in two separate attacks a lot tend to not be very accurate and most were shot down. It looks like a few have gotten through hitting Israel today but in general I think Iran lacks the ability to hit Israel well enough even with all those missiles (Iron Dome, etc). The good news as you say Krim is that Iran won't be supplying Russia for many months, it will be firing it's ballistic missiles and drones at Israel instead potentially giving Ukraine the respite it needs from missile and drone attacks on its cities. That is good news for Zelensky and the Ukrainian people :)
I think these attacks are well timed by Israel not only taking out Iran's nuclear capacity but going for the last piece in the puzzle to securing it's security and relative peace in the region. Now that Israel have gotten Hamas, Hezbollah and the old Syrian regime out of the way it leaves a pathway to take out the country largely behind it all, Iran without the risk of facing all of those foes at once concentrated against it.
Russia is too weak now to help Iran and is focused on its own war with Ukraine. So now is a good time to take out the Iranian regime if Israel can help to do so. If the Iranian regime falls not only will it help stability and peace across the Middle East but it will remove one likely member of a future WWIII scenario Axis of Russia, China, North Korea and Iran. Averting WWIII could well depend on picking these nations off one by one by any suitable method available. Russia I think are done for, particularly in the near future, Iran can be sorted out now. China is probably a different kettle of fish and care will be need to be taken there, North Korea is too small and I think weak (weaker than they boast) to be a big concern, they are only a small country.
So this looks like good news that Israel is going for Iran, better to do it now than when economic strife hits the West and it becomes difficult to spend out the money dealing with the likes of Russia & Iran. If Iran uses up most of its 2000 ballistic missiles on Israel and Israel takes out it's capacity to produce more then that alone will weaken Israel significantly.
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I'm yur typical sidewalk schitzophrenic scientist babbling about UFOa as you walk by (DON'T make eye contact!!!)
never the less, I wonder, if Israel shut down Iranian oil production
would $Trump sign an executive order allowing the purchase of Russian oil?
cuz of an "emergency"
which means "everyone should get from street"
don't let a war "go to waste"
behind the scenes, the USA is preparing for "WAR with China" in 2027!!!!
every Pentagon simulation and war game has the USA losing, every single one
Bardak and Chaos LLC
Crypto Advisors
remember folks: you CAN'T access yur bitcoin wallets in the apocalypse
you will need to carry a "sack of silver" and a pistol when you head to the trading post
capische?
you'll all be living in the ruins of post-industrial America
where the dollar collapsed just like the economy did
when the Soviet Union collapsed, worthless Soviet 100 ruble notes were blowing down the streets of Moscow
what goes around, comes around
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you'll all be living in the ruins of post-industrial America
where the dollar collapsed just like the economy did
when the Soviet Union collapsed, worthless Soviet 100 ruble notes were blowing down the streets of Moscow
what goes around, comes around
Am I right in thinking in those circumstances a good few British Pounds will buy sexy times with American Cheerleader girls! ;D
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you can't eat bank notes
10-15 years from now, cans of soup will be legal tender in most parts of America
American Maidan has started
http://x.com/i/status/1933975472867565620
will Trump make the same mistake Yanukovich made in Kiev?
stockpile gold and silver
spread some of yur gold into small denomination 1/4 OZ, or $5 dollar gold coins etc and some in 10 OZ bars for doing things like buying cars or real estate
small demoninations are for food and medical
now is the time to stockpile ammunition, as much as you can afford to buy
get an FFL 06 license for $100 and you can be a wholesale ammo dealer
buy/sell and get wholesale prices
a "brick" of 500.22 LR rimfire cartridges will be very good for barter in post-Trump America, right around the time they cut social security payments by almost 1/3
and the Treasury will be taking $2-$3 TRILLION out of the main street economy EVERY YEAR in interest on the federal debt and tariffs
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Israel and Iran at it again last night:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2kqkd03xn5t
Israel hit an Iranian Oil Depot while Iran used a new kind of missile on Israel. For Israel it looks like Iron Dome perhaps isn't working as well as hoped 🤔
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The New York Times now reports millions of Americans attendied "No Kings" anti-Trump protests across the country.
Events in all 50 states. Officials in Los Angeles are calling the crowds “unprecedented.”
This is likely one of the largest mass protests in U.S. history.
I told ya'll there'd be an American Maidan
this isn't the end of it, it's just the beginning of the anti-orange revolution
Tak!
meanwhile in Israel
the current iteration of iron dome doesn't work against hypersonic missiles, it's more for Hamas's flying pipe rockets made with Iranian ammonium perchlorate
note: it's likely the USA will subsidize Israel to create a hypersonic missile defense for America's "Golden Dome" vrs Chinese and North Korean "Raketta"
and the current iteration of Iron Dome can be overwhelmed with large salvos of slower rockets and drones
we haven't heard about "Iron Beam" lasers being used yet...this might fix the salvo issue....
without iron dome, Iranian missiles/drones would've done much more damage
downtown Tel Aviv is covered in Iranian rocket crud
no need to hire teenagers to collect it, just walk out yur door and pick it up
PS
if Iran can launch "hundreds of missiles at once" then imagine how many China can launch
Israel has total air superiority over Tehran, and demonstrated it can easily target Iran's energy economy, IF the war escalates
half the Israeli citizens killed were arab, and the rest mainly old people
all of Iran's top officials families just fled to Russia
because Israel was targeting them for elimination
joos are not phuqueing around with anti-semites, they will "Eichman" yur ass so fast now....
anti-semitism ONLY made joos STRONGER and STRONGER and SMARTER and SMARTER
Iran has nearly 10X the population and unlimited oil money
yet Israel already controls Iran's skies without a single loss
and it already devastated hamas and hezbollah and houthis
the holacaust created the lion of Judah
A Decentralized Autonomous Corporation (DAC)
A DAC is a network of artificial intelligence agents which divides its labor into two parts:
(1) tasks it pays or incentivizes humans to do,
(2) tasks which it performs itself. It can be thought of as a corporation run without any human involvement, under the control of a set of business rules.
they operate through encrypted networks in foreign countries and use crypto currency for transactions
they are like ninja warriors that leave no trace of their existence
PS2
no matter how phuqued up yur country is, at least you have the consolation of NOT living in North Korea
http://x.com/i/status/1934103180796694882
AMIRIGHT?
PS3
in 1940 it took Britain over 400 rounds of AA artillery to down a german aircraft
by 1944, radar aimed guns with a mechanical "predictor" reduced the number tp 100 rounds
proximity fuses improved it even more
why should Incels seek marriage?
how about because "sweety, I'd like to have some sushi please..."
that reality can be even better than yur fantasy
good enuff reason?
OTOH, sometimes a man suffering from sexual frustration can have a solution in hand nudge...nudge...wink....wink....
but incels can't give up porn
they ain't got no money, and they ain't got no rizz, just jizz
sad...
http://x.com/i/status/1934162742975545631
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Do You think we will enter the war with Iran? Today Trump said it's a possibility
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Good to see Israel are finally sorting Iran out Krim. Iran has been left as a threat by the West for far too long though some of it might have been due to the collection of dictator states, etc that they were in the region that probably would have banded together etc. Good also to hear that Israel dominates Iran's skies. It's better that Israel presses home their advantage now than risk Iran getting in defences against that either by developing it themselves or from Russia, etc.
If Israel can keep hitting all the crucial infrastructure that Iran relies upon then there could be a good chance of them toppling the Iranian regime. It's what the world and Iran needs for the religious nutters that run Iran to go.
In WWII I believe the common method that was developed at first was to fire the anti aircraft artillery into a roughly box section rather than to try to aim directly to take an enemy bomber out. They knew if they each tried to aim directly for it they would likely miss so instead they knew that if they each aimed into a rough theoretical box area in the sky the odds increase of hitting some of those in the bomber group by chance due to the concentration of firing into the rough theoretical box area they were flying in. That or damage done to the bomber aircraft from shells exploding in the sky nearby.
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the future of the war is more up to Israel and Iran.....
if Iran closes Hormuz, it will lead to the use of USA sea launched tomahawk cruise missiles and B-2 with bunker busters against military targets
Israel will have to take on the majority 90% of the fighting, with US air support and a naval blockade, etc
I don't see the USA in a ground war in Iran
I think the goal is to topple the Islamic regime
Iran eaither has to escalate the war, and face the consequnces, or be humiliated by the Joos
their Persian egos can't handle this very well
meanwhile Iran is in the grip of a major drought, and the southern parts of the country can reach temperatures that are not compatible with human life
not far away, everyone in cairo sleeps on the roof to escape the heat, and the Nile is drying up
Israeli supplied solar panels exploded with pagers all over the middle east
beware of joos bearing electronics
the entire Iranian oil and gas export sector could be destroyed by Israel in 48 hours with few Israeli casualties
Trump could make a deal with Putin to use Russian oil to replace Iranian, at the expense of the Chinese and Indians
but he'd have to waive Russian sanctions by executive order
no tariffs on anything from Russia!!!!
opportunity + danger
Trump could say to Putin, Freeze the war, and the lines, no more fighting
all sanctions repealed
it'd be a great deal for all concerned
a win-win
and completely wreck Iran's economy, nuclear program and military and their government collapses as a result and is replaced by "Queers for Palestine Rainbow Coalition"
phuque-yeah!
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the future of the war is more up to Israel and Iran.....
if Iran closes Hormuz, it will lead to the use of USA sea launched tomahawk cruise missiles and B-2 with bunker busters against military targets
Israel will have to take on the majority 90% of the fighting, with US air support and a naval blockade, etc
I don't see the USA in a ground war in Iran
I think the goal is to topple the Islamic regime
Iran eaither has to escalate the war, and face the consequnces, or be humiliated by the Joos
their Persian egos can't handle this very well
meanwhile Iran is in the grip of a major drought, and the southern parts of the country can reach temperatures that are not compatible with human life
not far away, everyone in cairo sleeps on the roof to escape the heat, and the Nile is drying up
Israeli supplied solar panels exploded with pagers all over the middle east
beware of joos bearing electronics
the entire Iranian oil and gas export sector could be destroyed by Israel in 48 hours with few Israeli casualties
Trump could make a deal with Putin to use Russian oil to replace Iranian, at the expense of the Chinese and Indians
but he'd have to waive Russian sanctions by executive order
no tariffs on anything from Russia!!!!
opportunity + danger
Trump could say to Putin, Freeze the war, and the lines, no more fighting
all sanctions repealed
it'd be a great deal for all concerned
a win-win
and completely wreck Iran's economy, nuclear program and military and their government collapses as a result and is replaced by "Queers for Palestine Rainbow Coalition"
phuque-yeah!
Israel says it has full control of Iran's skies:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2kqkd03xn5t
It looks like Israel are hitting sites in the West of Iran now, in addition to the radar stations etc that it hit earlier on. Can't be sure exactly what they are hitting at the moment. Hopefully they'll degrade the ability of the Iranian regime to control so much that civil war will break out🤞
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Israel claims that it has destroyed approximately 120 Multiple Rocket Launchers over the past few days. They reckon that is approximately a third of all of Iran's Multiple Rocket Launchers. That's got to be good news and hopefully Israel will continue and destroy the rest. The weaker Iran becomes the better for all of us.
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Trump and Putin are "maneuvering" so that if an opportunity presents itself, they can take advantage
http://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-us-could-get-involved-iran-israel-conflict_n_684fef30e4b03c462a05708c
Zelensky is in a bad position due to lack of military and financial support
and might compromise on land to end the fighting (temporarily)
China will replace Iran for drones and missiles
they can ship by direct rail to Russia!!!!
if Iran escaletes they are phuqued!
their entire economy will be turned into scrap metal
they'll run outta missiles in a week or so
then resort to terroriists blowing up schools, etc
Iran could take its HEU enriched uranium and mix it with plutonium and get a big Super-oralloy bomb like the USA UK did in the early 1950s
it would wipe Tel-Aviv off the map
they'd probably "deliver" it in a truck cuz of it's size and weight
over 20% of the world's oil flows through Hormuz
half-a-dozen Iranian MLRS can shut it down by sinking a couple of tankers
leading to massive oil price increases
that's when the US would step in
Putin would have immense power because of his oil reserves
Trump is the middleman with Netanyahu and Trump is the middleman with Putin
connect the dots moy druzya and solve "the puzzle" winner gets a PRIZE!!!
spossiba bog, it ain't gonna be me disposing of all the bodies
I am Krimster, hear me roar, I am too loud to ignore and yur mother was a whore
whatcha gonna do?
that's what I thought
now GTF outta my way
step aside gentiles...a jew is walkin by
that's right suka, Ich bin ein Jude
crystalnacht this!!
queue the intro music "theme from Shaft"
I hear that Krimster is a bad m-
HUSH YUR MOUTH!
but I wuz talkin 'bout Krimster
he's a SEX MACHINE to all the chicks
PS
I am really high as a kite right now, I can see my house from up here....
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just saw a video of Israel hitting Iraniane state TV while the program was going on
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just saw a video of Israel hitting Iraniane state TV while the program was going on
Yes I see the newsreader woman quickly made of to the toilets to clean her underwear out lol :D
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http://youtu.be/BbsKtwWqESI
after Iran gets "sorted out" it still leaves us with China
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http://youtu.be/BbsKtwWqESI
after Iran gets "sorted out" it still leaves us with China
Peter Zeihan is Beefarmer's favourite guru, you aren't becoming a convert to Peter Zeihan too are you Krim lol.
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Zeihan is copying me
No Kings
Europe is pulling a $TRILLION out of the USA's financial system and bringing it back to Europe
they are already doing that to "liquid" investments like stocks, bonds, CDs, etc
and they are starting to divest themselves of American commercial assets like factories, etc
pretty much all of Iran's "shadow tankers" are based on a single location which has all the facilities for oil transfer
bomb this one place, and you put an end to Iran's oil shipments to China, no tankers, no oil transport, China freaks out!!!
then Trump and Putin hold the cards
Trump is Putin's PR man at the G7
Putin will kindly offer to step in and replace Iran's oil in the global market, if it wasn't for them there sanctions, comprendez?
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I understand Krim, I can definitely see you and Beefarmer cuddled up on the sofa in the near future watching Zeihan :popcorn: ;D
You'll be saying that Trenchie doesn't know what he's talking about lol
I skipped through a lot of the Zeihan video 🥱
I saw the bit where he reckons the EU are pulling investment out of the US as a result of Trump's tarriffs and that obviously not being good for the US.
As said recently the UK suffered a decline in the last quarter apparently due to a drop in US trade as a result of Trump's tarriffs. So potentially we are going nowhere good globally as a result of Trump's tarriffs.
Zeihan seems on the fence with Ukraine. The quoted figure of Ukraine needing to take 4 Russians for every 1 Ukrainian I think is unreliable and uncertain where that comes from/is based on. I think there is a lot more at play in the war in Ukraine and a bare statistic as that doesn't really reflect the real life situation. Essentially it seems to be that Ukraine only has to hold on a year or so and they will have it in the bag, Russia's economy will collapse and Russia will have no more money with which to fund its war in Ukraine. I think Western nations have been playing it along the whole while playing the long game drip feeding Ukraine knowing that the Russian economy can only sustain the war so long.
In History I believe there is call a thing such as Economic Historians, I think that is what they call them, basically Historians that focus solely on statistics and base their reasoning from there. I think Zeihan is in a similar mold basically extrapolating outcomes from the statistics he has in front of him. It's ok but I think often there is the risk of solely focusing on one statistic too much and missing other statistics or factors around it that could affect it's outcome. That's not saying the outcome of that statistic is wrong or won't happen but potentially it may not always be right and work out as thought.
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pretty much all of Iran's "shadow tankers" are based on a single location which has all the facilities for oil transfer
bomb this one place, and you put an end to Iran's oil shipments to China, no tankers, no oil transport, China freaks out!!!
then Trump and Putin hold the cards
Trump is Putin's PR man at the G7
Putin will kindly offer to step in and replace Iran's oil in the global market, if it wasn't for them there sanctions, comprendez?
Russia probably isn't so bothered about Iran now, they already have shahed drone factories in Russia and itf they see they may do better from oil then it may make them not so concerned.
However Israel/the West may hold off on completely destroying Iran's oil infrastructure because of that. Potentially regime change could be brought about without that. How long it would take after regime change before oil started flowing again who knows. Depends on level of chaos I guess.
On the other hand of course Russia stands to lose another ally leaving them with potentially no influence in the Middle East.
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Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752
was an israeli "special operation" like the "pager bombings"
Israel hacked into the Buk Command Control, and communications
and made Flight 752 look like a cruise missile....
dumb-ass Russians don't even encrypt the Buk's command and control signals
Iranians are even dumber than Russians
why?
becuz Ukrainian Kh-55 medium-range, air-launched cruise missiles were sold to Iran straight from the Ukrainian factory for some major $$$$$
along with the COMPLETE PLANS to the factory, so it can be rebuilt in Iran
that Ukrainian turbofan from Motor Sich is one SWEET engine!!!!
Flight 752 was full of Ukrainian missile and turbofan experts and executives from the factory who just left a major meeting in Tehran to expand the operation even more!!!
Israel put an end to that
and Iran got blamed for it
"The Jiews are the men who will be blamed for nothing" grafitti from "Jack"
Putin's Spreadsheet
weekly Russian casualty statistics
account book of Ukrainian aid
both these spreadsheets show an emerging trend of DECLINE, because these 2 statistics have a "causal relationship"
therefor, Putin thinks, that if just keeps up the "meat assaults" combined with Trump's help, that he'll eventually win the Ukrainian war, if you extrapolate those curves to the future
Putin has no fear of there being a "Ne Czar" protest in Russia
meanwhile a "NO KINGS" wave is building and will become a tsunami in the USA
EVEN THE MILITARY MARCHING IN TRUMP'S PARADE WERE PROTESTING, YOU CAN TELL BY HOW THEY MARCHED, TRUMP WAS BIGLY PISSED!!!
and of course, they ran over and killed a pedestrian for Trump's $50 million birthday party for himself
y'all can ban me all you want to, it doesn't matter
nothing can stop an idea whose time has come
especially not YOU
everything I told ya'll was gonna be comin, are NOW the latest news headlines
curse me all you want, it's the fate of all prophets, I understand and accept this
clearly...for those with "eyes to see"
the season has changed
the world of RWD is gone and ain't coming back
it's just nostalgia for old timers
let the dead, bury the dead
Allahu Ak Bar and Grill at Ali's Trading Post just outside "the radioaactive zone"
chef's special de jour - BBQ Possum' with tater tots only 10 AA batteries
snovum godom, check yur scrotom
PS
Trump's threat to join with Israel
is used as a warning
that if Iran blocks Hormuz, the USA will be in the war
this restrict's Iran's choices for retaliation
I don't think Iran has an exit ramp without negotiations
because Israel can shut down Iran's economy COMPLETELY in under 48 hours
both sides have declining stock piles of weapons to deal with
Israel needs a reserve that is sufficient to wipe out Iran's oil and gas exports plus power plants, etc
change the targets from military/nuclear to economic
then it's "all over" for Iran
enjoy yur 120 degree weather with no AC
on the roc-ky road to du-ble-in...oh one two three four five
as he does an irish jig me boy-o
which evolved into "clog dancing" in the USofA
and I left me home in Ire-land
and became a rogue a-cross the sea
and saw me mudder and father no more
forgive me father, for I have sinned
on ebay you can buy lead foil
i'd figure some way to coat the lead with plastic, so ya don't handle it and develope damage to yur Central Nervous System
then cut it into shapes the necessary size to fit in undewear
think of it as a lead "jockstrap"
women need this MORE than men
becuz women's ovories have eggs when they hit puberty
whereas sperm gets recycled quickly and regnerated
ESPECIALLY IF YUR BEE FARMER!!!!
lead underwear that's fun to wear
this is also good for deavotchkie to walk in Chernobil with, stops alpha and beta rays and reduces gamma
either wear shoe coverings or throw away the shoes you wore in Chernobil, wear gloves, don't get yur fingernails dirty in Chernobil, always have yur radiation detector on
the stamps and postcards from the Chernobil Mini-market are HIGHLY collectable, you can't miss it at the Chep Entrance gate
on the rock-y road to du-bul-in...one two three four five
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It's increasingly becoming clear that Iran had a big network of facilities all built around developing nuclear weapons. Israel is taking out much of this meter of nuclear facilities and for that we should all be grateful to them I think:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt
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as I look into the haze of bong smoke
I see a picture emerging
not from the future this time
but from the past
The Battle of Lepanto, fought on October 7, 1571, was a significant naval confrontation between a Christian alliance and the Ottoman Empire, marking a pivotal moment in the prolonged conflict over control of the Mediterranean.
what's happening now is the 2nd Battle of Lepanto
but this time the Joos are in charge, and a couple of Christians "bravely" bringing up the rear
such a magnificent alliance, the best ever
think about this, Iran is paralyzed because of a few dozen Israeli pilots
who've spent all this time in the skies over Iran without a single casualty
this and the air defenses is all Israel has needed to bring Iran to it's knees by a country that has a population equal to New York City
israel needs USA only for the bunker busters, which probably won't work anyway, but mainly for logistics
as soon as Israel changes the trgets from military to oil and gas and power generation, Iran will be done a few days later
Israel is aggressively targeting missile launchers, etc, Iran and Israel will run out of air defense missiles within 2 weeks
at that point, Israel will HAVE to switch to target Iran's economy to bring down the entire country
which will have global consequences
Iran is stuck between a rock and a hard place, and they have no idea WTF to do
their leadership is paralyzed, sending their families abroad is an admission of defeat, and says something to the Iranian people about what their leader's priorities are
after "300" Hollywood shoulda made a big film about Lepanto
it was phreaking spectacular watching them ottoman ships blow up and all the janissaries flew up in the air screamin (even through the bong haze, which added to the smoke of the battle)
whomever we attack in the middle east, is always preceeded by an accusation of having WMDs
even if it's NOT true
yur only seeing what THEY want you to see
the real truth is buried below
PS
i'm just glad all this happened after I became a geezer, so I ain't gonna be one of the "heavy lifters" this time
more enjoyable to be a spectator then a participant
i'm just a simple stoner Texas Jew Boy
who lives in the swamp with the gators
BBQ gator and taters, or a real big snapping turtle are my favorites, them's GOOD eatin, better than 5 star Michelin in that Pair-ee, which is way overstated
except for the historical stuff, which will leave you totally in awe
walkin through Versailles while high as a kite...OMG...I saw some weird stuff in the "Hall of Mirrors" I was tripping hard...
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It's increasingly becoming clear that Iran had a big network of facilities all built around developing nuclear weapons. Israel is taking out much of this meter of nuclear facilities and for that we should all be grateful to them I think:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt
I am thankful! Just nervous if we get involved.
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I don't think the USA will go to war with Iran
number one, Trump doesn't wanna spend the money
Israel can fight 10X cheaper than the USA
more cost effective to pay the Joos to do the job for the USA or at least give them Joos a BIG discount on the weapons!!!
SLOVO!
China just shipped a $billion worth of their latest missiles to Iran
some of them are state-of-art anti-ship missiles
so they can fire hundreds of them at the US Navy + shutdown Hormuz
Trump's bombastic comments are like Putin's
it's all for the media
all Trump has to do is just support Israel's logistics, and give them spy satellite data so Israel can track EVERYTHING in real-time
like what the USA did with Ukraine under Biden
if Trump was gonna ACTUALLY attack, he wouldn't telegraph it
America's carriers are sitting ducks to Chinese missiles launched by Iranian/Chinese crews
China would give anything, pay any price, to see them tested now, before 2027 comes
I suspect Israel will switch to the destruction of Iranian power infrastructure and oil and gas industry
and a week later, Iran collapses
Israel doesn't need the USA's meager help. except for Walmart of Weapons R US
Iran and Russia are now China's suka
so this is all about china as well
if you studied the trajectory of the USA's relationship with Japan in the 1930s
then you can understand the future of China and USA and the WAR that's ALREADY under way
it's why I own multiple residences outside the USA
far away from the USA's electrical grid
China is the most dangerous enemy the USA has ever faced in it's history
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I am thankful! Just nervous if we get involved.
The better choice is to get involved and deal with Iran once and for all. Once their military is degraded then they will be exposed as weak and increasingly vulnerable. The bigger threat is fear but once involved and destroying Iran's military that fear will soon disscipate and people will wonder why we didn't take out Iran's military all along. The Iranian regime relies on its military and religious nutters.
That said I think boots in the ground should be avoided at all costs, that will give Iranians a target to attack and show Iranians who the enemy is. That mistake was made in Iraq and Afghanistan. I agree with Krim in that using Israel as a proxy is the most effective way and Israel has been doing a good job so far. However, the US may have to step in to take out fordow:
http://news.sky.com/story/the-one-bunker-buster-bomb-israel-could-use-to-hit-irans-secretive-fordow-enrichment-plant-13384914
Getting all of the nuclear programme in Iran is important for future world security. However, potentially the US doesn't necessarily need to take out the facility straight away. Waiting for Iran's military & economic power to be degraded might be best first.
Toppling the Iranian regime is probably the best for long term peace & security in the area.
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pretty soon, Trump will say, "the Iranians are eating the dogs and cats"
and they're taking jobs away from Right Wing Terrorists
we had to bomb Tehran to save Tehran
been there, done that, got the t-shirt and scars and drug addiction for my efforts
but other than that the Play was quite exciting, at first I thought Lincoln getting shot was just part of the performance
what a plot twist
the actor did it
when they said "break a leg"...he did, what a performance, just like a Tom Cruze stunt
America! Phuque YEAH!!!
where every nutjob with a pistol is a super hero riding a rocket to infamy
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oldie but goodie esp at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcjLEwZqcQI&t=22s
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I remember that one!!!! it was funny!!!
http://x.com/TheMossadIL/status/1935715039190585827/photo/1 (http://x.com/TheMossadIL/status/1935715039190585827/photo/1)
looks like Iran is running out of either rockets or rocket launchers
it means Israel will sonn start attacking Iranian energy and oil and gas
the entire place will collapse and is already a tinderbox ready to catch fire
the world needs to have a plan for what happens when Iran collapses and Islamic radicals start freaking out about not having ANY money any more
you break it, you gotta fix it
what kinda minerals deal will Trump get for Barron Von Ribben Trump in Iran?
what I really wonder...is who...wrote the book of love and why do fools fall in love
the first time I got a little girl to "show me hers" I expected to see something more or less like my own
but instead, I saw what looked like what I described to my friends as "a little butt in front"
I was like WTF happened to yur "thing" ?????
and slightly worried it might happen to me, so I wanted to learn the details
that did not turn out the way I expected it to
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Latest is that Russia's economy looks like it's about to hit the wall:
http://kyivindependent.com/russia-on-the-verge-of-recession-russian-economy-minister-warns/
After the boost from spend out on the war comes the eventual, inevitable and unstoppable decline due to money being sucked out of the economy on the war and inflation screwing up businesses leading to business failure and an ever increasing economic decline.
This will go on until the whole Russian economy collapses. The longer Ukraine can hold out and keep the war on the worse Russia's economy gets and the better prospect of victory for Ukraine becomes.
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Why on earth some people decide they want to intervene and save a regime that endangers all on this planet I don't know. Do-gooders doing bad in search of soothing their ego it seems. The UK and the EU are to hold talks with Iran :wallbash:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c994v4gm9jmt
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you think a recession will bother Putin? LOL!!!!
you have no idea of the meaning of "DEPRESSION" until you visit the Russian interior, the economy and the people are already DEEPLY DEPRESSED...
getting transferred to the front line in Ukraine would be a blessing to some poor malchick from central Russia who lives with outdoor plumbing in the winter and impassable dirt roads during rainy season
the russian economy is split between the 'military economy' and the civilian economy"
the military economy is expanding at the expense of the civilian one, a snake devouring it's own tail
if yur in the Russian lower middle class you better try to get a job in the military economy or you're phuqued and barely make enough to live cuz of war inflation and shortages
someone needs to offer Iran an EASY exit ramp, cuz the Ayatollah is a dumb ass with his finger stuck in his butt, and has no freakin idea of WTF to do
and the UK or France would be the pick for that
here Ayatollah, sign ze paper
Ukraine is running out of EVERYTHING thanks to Trump
and is closer to a financial collapse than Russia
and in the not too distant future, the USA will NOT be all that far behind them
the Russian economy is an "extractive economy"
if they need more money or more peasants, they "extract them"
they have a pretty big inventory of peasants and minerals and fossil fuels, they could fight for centuries
as long as the dumb ass Russian peasants are too cowardly to organize and "stand up" like they are in the USA and did in Ukraine
NO KINGS or CZARS
throw off your chains
Blues Harmonica
when I set my sea monkeys free
there were sea monkeys driving ladas to Washing Tundy Sea
happy juneteenth ya'll - we FREE!
moonshine and watermelon rine
as far as the eye can see
PS
to win the war in Ukraine....Putin needs to do two things
1. replace Zelensky with Poroshenko
2. a break-out from Belarus in Sept, combined with secret reserves of "shock battalions" thrown into kharkhiv and Kherson to sow panic and defeatism in Ukraine
otherwise, Ukraine has to survive the Trump presidency until a democrat takes office
if Ukraine had Biden's level of support, Russia would be shredded
you no longer have to go to Ukraine to date young Ukrainian women
they're all over now
RWD is all "istoriya starry den" and NOT about TODAY tovarische
tomorrow will be even worse
when the first, shall become last
and chinese sex tourists will be roaming post-collapse American trailer parks in their Kunk Pao self-driving electric cars, cuz they can't drive worth a damn and they're always runnin in to stuff
idjuts
MS-13 will sell the Chinese in America their krisha, cuz they're gonna need it!!!!
Slovo!
t'was once upon a time a deaf gynecologist who was a lip reader
what? why ya lookin at me like that?
the sad truth about America today
http://x.com/i/status/1936082192565760279
be kind to the people you meet on "the way up"
cuz yur gonna see 'em again, on "the way down"
a variant of the golden rule
i'm all about helping all you American and Russian Gopnicks see the light
I am totally into drug abuse and russian dub-step musika and gopnick dancing
as well as a maker of collectible authentic period style miniature doll furniture
and former proprieter of a Russian/Ukrainian Cosmetics company (pre-war)
historical footnote for future web scraping historians
pay attention to what the Belarus Army is doing RIGHT NOW, forwarned is foreskin saving for you uncircumsized yarblockos
Russia has used CS gas in Ukraine thousands of times
they used knock out gas and killed their own hostages in the Moscow theatre hostage crisis of 26 October 2002
this is the the next step up
Putin will wanna hit Ukraine with ALL his "SURPRIZES" at the same time to get an overwhelming synergetic effect
this will happen before Novichok...so that Putin can guage international reaction
how much of $Trump and $Melania crypto coin will Putin have to buy, to get a pass from Trump for gassin ukrainians with "Zyklon Z Anti-Faschista Gaz"
Zykon Z gets oot those stubborn ethnic stains
it's the best ethnic cleanser you can ever hope for
Director of White House Office of Presidential Personnel is suspected of being a Russian spy.
"Sergio Gor" appears to actually be Sergey Goryachev from Saratov, Russia.
he refuses to undergo a backgrounc check!!!!!
Tulis Gabbard is also a Russian asset
and of course, so is Trump himself
Trump fired all the CIA Russian and cybersecurity experts as a favor for Putin
obviously, Trump's freakin Russian pee-pee tapes are real and Elon Musk was spot-on about Trump and Epstein
how many people in the USA realize how DEEPLY PHUQUED the USA will become in the middle of the next decade?
I AM TRYING TO WARN YOU
is all I'm tryin to do
i'm NOT "chicken little"
i'm tellin ya'll a TRUTH you better pay attention to
while Trump had desployed a 3rd carrier to the middle east
the Chinese Navy has quietly surrounded Guam, which has hardly any naval defenses
check...
will Russia join them?
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The better choice is to get involved and deal with Iran once and for all. Once their military is degraded then they will be exposed as weak and increasingly vulnerable. The bigger threat is fear but once involved and destroying Iran's military that fear will soon disscipate and people will wonder why we didn't take out Iran's military all along. The Iranian regime relies on its military and religious nutters.
That said I think boots in the ground should be avoided at all costs, that will give Iranians a target to attack and show Iranians who the enemy is. That mistake was made in Iraq and Afghanistan. I agree with Krim in that using Israel as a proxy is the most effective way and Israel has been doing a good job so far. However, the US may have to step in to take out fordow:
How do you deal with Iran once and for all? Without boots on the ground? Genies and magic lamps?
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he'll decide on an answer to that question, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW!!!!!!!
HEE HAW, HEE HAW, HEE Halways says TWO WEEKS!!!!!
if it were me, I would threaten them with a POINTED STICK
hold it like a Harry Potter Wand
while having a derringer up the sleeve of yur other hand
PS
one of the best jobs to have in the IAF is a photogrammetry analyst
all you do is just input these high-res recon photos into a program and the program generates a 3D profile and animates it
and you make a spreadsheet attachment that gives a detailed damage description
you work in a nice air conditioned office, that has young Israeli girls ALL OVER THE PLACE
and at lunch you can play Mahjong with them in the cafeteria
much different social behavior rules than the USA
girls would "take me under their wing" and pass me around cuz I was so naive and innocent back then
we really didn't care about AIDS or STDs back then
just playful sex
now 10% of all young Israeli women are Russian speaking and usually blond and some look like Bar Rafaella
there are quite a few tall buff blond Russian/Ukrainian women in Israel
you should check 'em out at the beach
most of the internal security guards in Israel are women, and they are brutal with Arab men, who are genuinely afraid of them
the women don't get in ANY trouble AT ALL for slapping or shoving some disresoectable dewd
but if he touches her, if her friends don't shoot him, a crowd of angry Jews will
this is why you ALWAYS gotta walk around with a pistol in Israel, EVERYWHERE you go
in case you get an opportunity to shoot someone legally, I mean defend Israeli citizens
you also carry a "throw-away" weapon, so you can claim you killed an armed terrorist
there would be a 60 second investigation and then they'd shake yur hand
yalky palky
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How do you deal with Iran once and for all? Without boots on the ground? Genies and magic lamps?
Easy Bill you destroy all of the means of State Control from the skies using missiles. That then leaves the Iranian Government vulnerable and exposed to counter Revolutionaries and the like.
If you want to ensure that the Iranian Government can't keep control then on top of that if you supply any revolutionary groups, separatists, dissident groups etc with weapons if they don't already have them and ammunition then you can really make it difficult for the Iranian Government to keep control.
All done cleanly without the need for any boots on the ground. That removes any continual target to fire and demoralise public opinion at home. It removes the problem of having troops stuck on the ground with the difficulty of what happens if you remove them. It's how the last Iraq war should have been fought, destroy the Iraq means of State Control from the air and then let the dissident groups finish off the task almost unwittingly on your behalf.
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I'd put an end to all this once and for all!!!
I'd go to Mecca and steal that black rock muslims all worship
then make an exact copy of the rock, but with the star of david inside
and give it back to them
allu ak bar and grill and trading post
chef's special
powdermilk biscuits dipped in possum fat and a plate of steamed crayfish with Old Bay Seasoning
only 10 Lithium AA batterys or 50 E-Yuan from Zelle
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a B2 just destroyed the biggest falafal shop in Iran!!!
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Do you know if they destroyed? was operation successful?
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Israelis say “Fordow is gone"
now we'll see what Iran and the houthis do in response
if any response then the Navy will deploy F-35s from carriers
and can fire off gazillions of tomahawk missiles at Iran's missile sites
Israel just "shut down" it's worse than covid rules
people are only allowed to do essential things
I would think it's totally essential for me to go and pick up all the Iranian rocket crud all over Tel Aviv and add it to my shrapnel collection
I bet when planes land at Ben Gurion, folks are moving quickly outta there now and not slowly shuffling like usual
pretty rockets up in the sky
that are lost up among the stars so bright
little rockets...BIG ROCKETS...sailing through the NIGHT
is it the Holy Land or Holey Land
USAF OBLITERATED Iran's Fordow nuclear facility with SIX bunker busters dropped from B-2 bombers, rather than just two
Natanz and Estefan nuclear sites were wiped out using 30 missiles from American submarines 400 MILES AWAY
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I sure hope so! Not that I am against getting rid of Iran's nuclear potential but wasn't Trump saying he isn't going to start any wars?
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we need to copy Russia's "Father of All Bombs"
a 7 1/2 ton FUEL/AIR thermobaric weapon with a blast radius of 400 meters
this would make a wonderful impression on the Persians and Houthis
be like seeing the Spartans showing up with Leonidas
this time bomb the economy and not just the military
do what we did to germany and japan
when the temp hits 120 degrees F and there's no electricty and no water and nobody has any money or food
most of Iran's food is imported, blockade them like what Israel's doing to Hamas
every way you can hurt them - do it as much as you can!
cuz if you don't kick their ass HARD
they'll be comin fer yur kids schools over here
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Fantastic news to wake up to that Iran's key Uranium enrichment sites have been taken out by the US :) That should ensure that Iran can't build a nuclear bomb and ensures peace from that for a long time to come.
http://www.euronews.com/2025/06/22/tehran-says-war-has-started-after-us-strikes-nuclear-sites-follow-live
I wondered if they might strike when I heard that the B-2 Bombers were on the move last night but I was surprised that it was so soon. I see those of you have heard the news sooner than I. Hopefully the offensive against Iran will now continue until the Iranian regime is toppled from power. Better to get rid of that threat once and for all.
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I hope so too! I hope it will not become like a 2rd war in Iraq
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there is a balancing of forces
the universe always bends towards an Equilibrium
you have to understand Persians and their gigantic egos
on one hand, Iran just closed Hormuz, which will certainly cause the US Navy to respond
this will cause oil to spike and hurt the world's economy and help Putin
they evacuated their enriched weapons grade uranium and they have some plutonium to
they can make a bunch of low yield hiroshima type of weapons or one or two super-oralloy mixture of uranium and plutonium and make 1 or 2 really big bombs that will weigh 4 tons and need to be transported by truck or ship
then on the other hand, there is mass panic in Iran right now
money is in short supply and so is food
power started switching off randonly
all the roads are jammed with people fleeing the big cities or "sensitive" sites
massive social disorder
unfortunately just threatening a bully with destruction doesn't work
you actually have to destroy him
with Israel on one side, and the USA on the other, Iran is going to be ground up into little pieces
while Iran NOW has to divide it's military by fighting not one but two enemies at the same time
different reality now compared to even yesterday
Iran better NOT be stupid enough to attack on US soil
I saw the images of Fordow, it looks like the Bunker Busters targeted the elevator shafts that go down 300 feet
and collapsed them all, sealing everybody and everything down below, no ventilation, and no power
those Norden bomb sights are pretty good, no wonder the Japanese wanted to know about ithem
see if there's some kind of rescue effort
don't know how damaged the centrifuges are, they might be salvaged
but removing all that rubble under us eyes to get to them will not be easy
which also means they can't rescue people down there without getting attacked
the effectiveness of the F-35 has REALLY shocked the Russians
F-35s in Poland could easily nuke EVERYTHING in western Russia in a first strike, and Moscow would't even know about it until they saw the mushroom clouds blooming
FAFO SUKA!
PS
http://www.rawstory.com/pentagon-iran-bombing/?utm_source=superhead
so no big "SURPRIZE"
Trump didn't EXACTLY tell the truth about the results
and Iran is building nuclear warheads while you're reading this
and Hormuz is closed
and it's just a matter of time before the first tanker is burning in the Gulf of Ayatollah Manytimes
and she'll have FUN, FUN, FUN, til her Daddy takes her T-Bird awaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy
PS
for no particular reason, I advise you DO NOT get on any US airplane right now
this has nothing to do with Chinese MANPADS smuggled into Texas by Iranians who look like Mexicans
check with the Russian Embassy in Mexico City if ya don't believe me
PS
hearing "weird stuff" about Fordow
it looks like there were 12 GBU-57s dropped on it...but only 6 holes in the ground
supposedly, the first 6 were to dig a new shaft
and the next 6 flew straight into the shaft holes, then went all the way through the concrete at the bottom, and the concrete came flying out like a volcano
at a minimum Iran will build a bomb now and set it off in the desert ASAP
next USA targets will be the underground cruise missile facories and warehouses
USA and Israel are still focusing on military targets
if the war is still ongoing in 2 weeks, then they'll start bombing economic targets
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Putin SECRETLY approved Trump's Iran plan, cuz the oil price spike, and inventory reduction is in his interest
all his public comments are the usual totally stupid BS for media consumption
because he's just as big a liar and deceiver as Trump
vidisch
http://www.youtube.com/shorts/aIYk0vQuzQ0?feature=share
Trump is hoping that he can use the Iran war as a justification for elimination of sanctions on Russian oil
so he can get paid with $trump coin purchases with Russian oil money
the B-2 attack did a lot more dmage than people realize
Israeli special-ops made a list of Iran's top-10 nuclear scientists with a detailed dossier on each one
them smuggled in drones to iran, and launched them all at the same time on day one
and killed all 10
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Looks like you are right Krim, Israel has hit the access roads to Fordo to cut off and slow down access to the site. I would guess that they are concerned that a recovery effort might get to some useful people or equipment down there in time if any are remaining.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt
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This is getting sexy now, Iran has now fired missiles at a US base in Qartar giving the US the excuse to fire back:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt
All missiles were intercepted.
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can you imagine yur on the night shift at Fordow
on yur way to heat up yur falafal in the korean microwave when the roof caves in, power goes off, and HVAC stops workin (did somebody fuhget to pay the utility bill again) and a HUGE BOOM!
and the toxic gaseous by-products of 30 toms of explosives seeps into the tunnels....hmmmm....smell it?
didn't you take the training course, where they tell ya that breathin in the NO2 gas from detonation of high explosives leads to edema of the lungs when done in enclosed spaces,
or were ya sleepin again?
the first casualty of war is ALWAYS the TRUTH
liar's poker is all this is
what fookin idjuts all these autocrats are
I imagine there's gonna be a tanker on fire in the Persian Gulf soon, or maybe even the Gulf of America!!!!!
since Hormuz is closing....
Trumpolini can bomb Kharg Island, located off Iran's coast near Bushehr, and is more or less a big oil terminal, 90% of Iran's oil exports ship from there
Pootin is begging Trump to bomb it
proujouste moy droog!!! cough! pee-pee tape cough!!!!
since Iran's air defense seems to be missing, Israel/USA have total access to Iran's
dams
bridges
power plants
oil and gas production
rail
all the way down to falafal shops, and mosque trinket stands with mega-mosque prosperity islam
from prophet to profit
bombs away
too bad DHS is focused on reducing future hispanic voters instead of lookin at Iranian "sleeper cells"
The "three-fifths of a vote" refers to the Three-Fifths Compromise adopted during the 1787 Constitutional Convention.
It stipulated that enslaved people in a state would be counted as three-fifths of a person when determining a state's total population for representation in the House of Representatives and for taxation purposes
well...immigrants are the new slaves
http://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/07/24/how-removing-unauthorized-immigrants-from-census-statistics-could-affect-house-reapportionment/
http://www.npr.org/2021/02/15/967783477/immigration-hard-liner-files-reveal-40-year-bid-behind-trumps-census-obsession
the Republican party's war on latinos, is 100% about protecting their own power and NOTHING more than that
the same way that the American Civil War was all about protecting the power and wealth of a small class of southern plantation owning oligarchs, at the expense of poor whites
it's the EXACT SAME THING TODAY!
reducing the number of undocumented workers, is just another method of Republican self serving behavior, like voter suppression and gerrymandering
in America cheaters ALWAYS win and winners always cheat
only losers think otherwise
a marxist jihad...to fully embrace secular materialism, is just another way of expressing classical Dialectical Materialism
right?
what color socks should the Marxist Jihadis wear, i'm thinking Red, of course
I hope everyone agrees with that
it's the Red Revolution! Tak!
I'd rather be RED than LED by oligarchs
and please...
bury me when I'm dead Fred, bury me when I'm dead....
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Well Trump is now saying that Israel & Iran have now agreed to a ceasefire:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt
Israel & Iran still have to confirm it. Maybe the disruption to oil supply was too much to want to go through. Maybe Israel was running short on missiles who knows. Assuming a ceasefire is about to occur of course.
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The Ministry of Truth, Faux News already has a mini-series out on this directed by Mel Gibson
let's see what they've prepared
"Iran has agreed to allow kosher falafal within Iran, and to stop killing old Jewish people if Israel and USA will stop bombing Iran"
looks the 12-day war is over in just a few hours from now, otherwise it's gonna be the 13 day war, and they'll have to re-print all the Trump T-shirts in China again to sell to Republicans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8SALUTeig
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If the 6 Day War was good, then the 12 Day War is TWICE as good
in the bunker with Krimster
in Tel Aviv, old people generally live in older buildings, that were built before the Merkhav Mugan laws, from about 30 years ago which required every new residence to have a 'protected space'
that's why they're 'over-represented in the casualty demographics
middle-aged Israeli Geeks compete against each other to see who has the 'sickest mamad'
how thick are the steel walls?
above ground, below ground?
what kinda ventilation and gas protection
outside communication
porta-potty
water, food, automatic weapons, gas masks
art work, library, etc
any where you dig in Israel, you'll find all kinds of crazy stuff
you gotta keep quiet about it, or The Ministry of Antiquity will show up and take it from ya
so I have "things" only my family knows about
my "supernatural gift" is 'finding hidden stuff'
in Crimea, I found boxes and boxes of old stuff from every historical period back to the 5th century BC
before that time, metal was less common in Crimea, so a metal detector isn't halpful in all cases
however, if you can date a particular 'layer' say to Roman times
in a lot of places, if you just dig deeper, you'll find even older stuff in the same places
using this approach, I've found neolithic stone arrowheads that were thousands of years old, that had a layer from almost every period
the first thing I tried to do with all the ancient greek colonies that surrounds crimea, was to find their garbage dump
and turned myself into a dumpster diver for ancient artifacts
this was a lot of fun
cuz ya never knew what the turn of a shovel would uncover
it was like being a gold miner, forty-niner
fire on the mountain
lightening in the air
gold in them thar hills, and it's waitin for me there
PS
Israel just lifted the state of emergency
what if Iran's surrender was just a trick?
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Houston, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) says we "got a problem"
somethin regarding nuclear weapons
will Iran setting off a nuclear bomb in the desert change the algorithm any?
will China ship Iran a few $billion worth of their latest missiles to test against the USA/Israel?
will Russia sell Iran a bunch of new centrifuges?
will AI make a film of The Beatles getting back together and doin a concert as geezers, pretending John and George are still alive?
"...will ya still need me, will ya still feed me..."
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Ukrainian media reports that President Zelensky, during his recent meeting with Trump, presented evidence that Russia had transferred the bodies of Russian soldiers disguised as Ukrainian fighters.
Zelensky also showed maps to Trump, exposing Russian gains as exaggerated by propaganda.
In addition, Zelensky gave FULL SUPPORT to Trump's actions in Iran, while Medvedev threatened to give Iran nuclear weapons, and of course 100% of Iran's nuclear technology was bought from Russians
when the USA activated Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty after 9-11
Ukraine sent soldiers to Iraq/Afghanistan to fight along with the USA, and they had some who were killed
Putin, OTOH put a bounty on GIs with the Taliban
but yet...
when the UN recently voted to condemn Russia's actions in Ukraine
The USA joined Russia, Belarussia and North Korea and Iran, voting "NYET!"
MONEY makes the world go 'round, and you either kiss Trump's Ass, or Trump will kick YOUR Ass
so render unto $Trump, the things that are $Trump's
because he who lives by the $, will also perish from the $, when their greed kills the $
meanwhile, it just became legal to buy real estate DIRECTLY with bitcoin in the USA, without exchanging into $$$ first
hmmmmmmmmm
well officer, I can explain all that sudden gain in wealth...
ya see, I bought bitcoin when it was $400, and now it's over $100,000
can you say, "Capital Gains" don't wanna get taxed as labor, now do we?
in Amerika, you gotta learn which side of the bread is buttered and which side isn't
those with eyes to see, can figure it out
the corruption in America's economy is probably just as big percentage wise as it is in Russia
http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2025/06/aoc-hits-kennedy-over-medicare
PS
in Tel Aviv, the city organized gazillions of volunteers to go and help people cleanup all the rubble, broken glass, etc
most of the easy stuff, has already been cleaned up
just like in Russia or Ukraine where neighborhoods have a "cleanup day" and everybody pitches in, this is what's goin on in Tel Aviv right now, gazillions of helpers, young and old
in America I was a volunteer parent school guard, but haven't had to clean bomb debris yet or debris from social collapse (yet)
as the prophet said, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need"
water always flows downhill and never up
hey Trench me lad...
when ya think about it, LIFE is like a "shite sandwich"
the more bread ya have, the less shite ya gotta eat
ain't they got no bakeries in the midlands, some place you can get some bread, some sterling
you gotta get some income streams, and stop livin a slacker's life and expect some reward for it
to be is to do, now go and do something to make some money, now get going, and sin no more
sop eating yorkshire puddin at yur mom's house, that's what's makin ya a slacker me boy-o
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ach so...
a short while ago, a secret Russian plane flew from St Pete and Moscow to DC and New York
for "secret negotiations"
These negotiations are not about peace. This is not about national interest. This is about Trump and Putin working toward a shared goal—through optics and orchestrated messaging.
the real conversations are happening behind closed doors
The back-and-forth public compliments between Trump and Putin?
That’s all optics. Because Trump is the showman. Putin is the puppet master. And what you’re seeing now—the praise, the silence, the inaction—is the execution of deals that were already made.
soon there will ne new deals, but NOT AT ALL the kind that Roosevelt made in the 1930s
SLOVO!
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Here is an update from the British guy who lost his arm and leg a few months ago earlier this year after being targeted by a drone while driving working as a Medic in Pokrovsk:
http://united24media.com/life-in-ukraine/russia-took-his-arm-and-leg-now-british-volunteer-eddy-finds-strength-at-ukraines-leading-rehab-center-9050
I think he had been very foolish to go out there and chance it for so long and without buying himself any armour. He's from Dorset the same county as I have lived for much of my life. It looks like he was well off enough to be able to buy armour to protect his limbs and body but chose not to. Apparently he says in the article that he, "dreams of a quiet life, a dacha , a garden, a wife, and family." I would say there is never a never and it's awful to see the guy in the state he is now in without real limbs but potentially he might have difficulty in finding a Ukrainian woman now as many pass over guys without real limbs. Come the end of the war Ukraine will likely be flooded with WM again with real limbs and the competition may be fierce and I wonder if he may quickly find himself out on a limb in terms of finding a Ukrainian woman to fulfill his dachs dream with 🤔
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be not afraid Englishman
for that which does not kill you, only makes you stronger
the first thing you learn in war, is how to survive it, so ya better pay attention to all the leetle details
war will temper you in the furnace and you'll get some burn marks
but, when you emerge from that furnace, you're tempered steel
in comparison, look how soft you are
there is no way you could EVER hope to compete against someone with even a basic military background in ANYTHING!!!!
biggest mistake you made was not joining Her Majesty's Armed Forces when you were a teenager to learn discipline and how to push yourself to yur limits and beyond
you would carry that with you for the rest of yur life
you ain't even left home, yur still, more or less, just a boy, but yur heading towards bein 50 yrs old
you never had yur "right of passage" to become a man
WTF did you do yur entire life, eh?
at least the guys with no limbs, did SOMETHING
so, who's the loser Trench, you or them?
wake the phuque up Trench
don't you understand what I'm saying to you?
don't you understand how WEAK you are at everything
this is the expected outcome of not taking risks DOING STUFF without a guaranteed outcome
and not working yur hardest at making it succeed
I would NOT want to be you
and I don't understand WHY you wanna be you
please explain to me the virtues of yur 'slacker life'
cuz I don't see it
PS
Russia is launching 500 drones/rockets per night at Ukrainian civilian targets all across Ukraine
reminiscent of the Nazi V-1 and V-2 campaigns
y'know good 'ole Werner Von Braun
he aimed for the stars, but hit the East End of London
historians generally discount the effectiveness of the "vengeance weapons"
I think it'd be better to deploy them at the "contact zone" to attack Ukraine's Drone forces instead
but Putin's gotta be Putin
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be not afraid Englishman
for that which does not kill you, only makes you stronger
the first thing you learn in war, is how to survive it
war will temper you in the furnace and you'll get some burn marks
but, when you emerge from that furnace, you're tempered steel
in comparison, look how soft you are
there is no way you could EVER hope to compete against someone with even a basic military background in ANYTHING!!!!
biggest mistake you made was not joining Her Magesty's Armed Forces when you were a teenager to learn discipline and how to push yourself to yur limits and beyond
you would carry that with you for the rest of yur life
you ain't even left home, yur still, more or less, just a boy, but yur heading towards bein 50 yrs old
you never had yur "right of passage" to become a man
WTF did you do yur entire life, eh?
at least the guys with no limbs, did SOMETHING
so, who's the loser Trench, you or them?
wake the phuque up Trench
don't you understand what I'm saying to you?
don't you understand how WEAK you are at everything
this is the expected outcome of not taking risks DOING STUFF without a guaranteed outcome
and not working yur hardest at making it succeed
I would NOT want to be you
and I don't understand WHY you wanna be you
please explain to me the virtues of yur 'slacker life'
cuz I don't see it
I didn't join the military here when I was younger as I'm Anti-Monarchist and you have to swear an oath to the Monarchy upon enlistment which is highly unfair and discriminatory against those who aren't Monarchists and don't wish to be seen to support the Monarchy.
I've essentially done what I had to do given the circumstances in my life. The UK isn't a place full of opportunity like the US. I couldn't leave my Mother with a house falling into disrepair and for me where would I go? I had not a lot of money when younger and work wasn't always easy to come by.
Sometimes it's better to play it safe than to risk too much on a foolish venture. The guy in the article should have analysed the situation better, he must have seen his dangerous it was as he was doing the Medic work a while but he foolishy thought that he would not become a casualty and lose limbs even though many Medics do. As a result he is left looking like the matchstick man and while I don't have any issue with him many women will if it came to looking for dates. It's no doubt agonising what he has gobd through but if he finds a decent woman out there he will be lucky as most women traditionally have steered clear from amputees.
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life is NEVER about "playing it safe"
no risk, no gain
the "hard path" is usually the correct path to take
as opposed to the "easy path"
Truth is always on the most difficult side
this is WHY you are POOR Trench
cuz yur afraid of risk and lack confidence in yurself to triumph over it, so ya don't even bother tryin
or in yur own words, "it's femminism's fault"
don't you see what a "wanker" you are?
never mind the bullox
now go, and get thy SHITE all sorted out like a good lad
PS
anti-monarchy?
so if you were alive in WWII, you wouldn't serve?
QE II drove trucks in '39-'45
Trench woulda stayed home to be near his mama to be SAFE
Trench has already surrendered to the world
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life is NEVER about "playing it safe"
no risk, no gain
this is WHY you are POOR Trench
cuz yur afraid of risk and lack confidence in yurself to triumph over it
or in yur words, "it's femminism's fault"
don't you see what a "wanker" you are?
never mind the bullox
Charming lol. It can also be said, no risk, no loss as well. When risks are taken the fact that it's a risk means that gain is not assured and it could end up in a loss such as the guy I brought up here. He might come good from his loss in some way but if not then particularly come the end of the war and the dating circuit it could go something like this. He's in a room with a load of women all of a sudden a load of guys from the US, UK and elsewhere of varying wealth all crowd into the room. They are all fully limbed, he not so, odds are the Ukrainian women will then all be interested in them not in him. If he is lucky maybe one will or maybe he'll stand out for being different and attract attention but my thoughts are that he might end up empty handed once again.
Anyway, talking about Pokrovsk there is a large Russian troop build up there at the moment:
http://kyivindependent.com/russia-has-amassed-111-000-troops-near-pokrovsk-syrskyi-says/
Possibly they are going to try to break through by force of numbers all at once who knows. I just hope Ukraine is prepared and can hold on against any onslaught. If Ukraine can hold out in Pokrovsk as they have been then I think long term Russia are screwed.
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I don't SPARE anyone's feelings, not even a nebbish's
you think yur ancestors didn't have risks hunting to feed their family?
should they have stayed home and let their family starve?
well...YOU likely would have....
too risky, too much effort
as ye sow, so shall ye reap me boy-o
when ya look in the mirror Trench, do you like what you see?
if not, how do ya expect a super model to be hangin on to yur arm as you stroll down the boulevard of broken dreams
that there is a pretty basic incongruity, doncha think so?
PS
Da! Russians wanna break out through to the other side
a static war
like WWI Trench war
that depended on "breakout" offensives that mostly failed
until one side had an economic and then social collapse
Putin's got 6 months of hard data now
to guage Ukraine's future potential after Trump cutting US support
to measure "how much fight" Ukraine has left
Putin has NOW convinced Europe to spend 5% of GDP on defense, after convincing Sweden and Finland to join NATO
and graciously lets Trump take the credit for this achievement
Meanwhile, the United States in 2025 is some horrible combination of 1930s Germany and 1780s France
racial profiling with, "let them eat cake"
Place d' le Concorde Neck Trimmers in the future
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Free cheese in the mousetrap!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/30/russia-pays-ukrainians-suicide-bombers-shadow-war-you-now
“Want to know if a man loves you? See how much he spends.” “Married for 41 days, she demanded 10 million yuan — he jumped to his death.” “Top gold-digging influencer reportedly earns 150 million yuan a year.”
Misogynistic pronouncements — or calls for justice against relationship scams?
Apparently, they could be either, depending on where you stand on “gold diggers.” These fabricated news headlines, based on real events, feature at the beginning of a new game that has rocketed to the top of China’s games charts since its release on June 19.
Titled Revenge on Gold Diggers and launched on the online gaming platform Steam, the China-developed game has sparked fierce debate over gender representation.
The premise is simple: players guide a male protagonist who was previously deceived by a “gold digger” and seeks revenge.
And the quotes above set the tone, defining “gold diggers” as “women who drain men of their money through emotional manipulation” — what is commonly called catfishing in the West, but is better known as “pig butchering” in China.
http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1017276
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In Soviet Russia, fish catches you
there's ordinary times, and there's extraordinary times
extaordinary times are like during a war
war leads to war brides after
those in a position to take advantage of this windfall in riches, will do so!
and those who aren't, won't
the same dynamic with war brides as with MOB
homely middle-class GI ends up with a foreign super model wife/refugee
--or--
homely middle class urban professional ends up with a foreign super model wife/refugee
the first time I introduced my wife to my Silicon Valley geek friends, their jaws hit the ground
6'1"" tall, 20ish, auburn hair/green eyed beauty with a playboy centerfold hard body, cuz she freakin walked everywhere in Ukraine all the time
you should've seen those glutes, when I gave that booty s slap
a buff Ukrainian SuperWoman that is Gal Gadot's height, OMG!!!!
when wearing tight fitting jeans, my wife would stop traffic in the street
and she's aged gracefully like a fine wine into a Redneck's idea of the perfect European MILF
no freakin way, I coulda tapped ANYONE even remotely close to someone like this in California, with my level of Rizz
in fact, I never even SAW anyone who looked even CLOSE to that EVER!!
and I was "early middle age" when I captured this woman in Ukraine, and took her iback nto my household in my home territory
NO BRAG!!!!
JUST FACT!!!
WHY?
cuz I lived at the right time and the right place
and I was blessed by Jesus
but the opportunities I had are pretty much all over and done with TODAY
ain't nobody in the USA gonna be gettin pooty tang in post-Trump America
but...
this is what ya'll wanted!!! LOL!!!!
so ENJOY!!!!!
PS
http://youtu.be/8xmxl0R3Xw0
Americans SHOULD NOT watch this video
it's why I keep tellin ya'll that there ain't gonna be NOBODY hunting Russian/Ukrainian Foxes in post-Trump America
NOBODY!!!!!
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as I told ya'll previously, earlier in this thread, before being banned for it
Trump will eventually unilaterally remove Russian sanctions, so Putin can pay him
well...guess what just happened?
http://deanblundell.substack.com/p/breaking-trump-lifts-key-russian?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTWuamuimy4
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-rollback-of-russia-sanctions-enables-illegal-tech-flow-to-kremlin/ar-AA1HPfbd?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTE&cvid=adf91aaf234b4b5b8290e552f3697bcd&ei=225
and Trump has allowed Russia to build a nuclear plant in Hungry
the same Russia that sold Iran EVERY BIT of it's nuclear technology
meanwhile, Trump has cancelled all previosuly scheduled usa military aid to ukraine, claiming he needs it for Iran
yeah, right LOL!
I mean Trump WOULD NEVER LIE ABOUT IRAN to the American people, or lie about ANYTHING, RIGHT?
meanwhile...
http://youtu.be/xF8dEfZRqxA
no man is an island unto himself
when some of us fall behind, we are ALL diminished by it
those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it
http://youtu.be/dmyswQs6_Bw
http://youtu.be/5NzjjQqW7cU
this will help ya'll understand yur declining future in America
Russians have the same future, only worse
and almost every day, children are murdered in Ukraine by Putin
in America we only put them in cages in a swamp
interesting how the Iran war, interrupted American anti-Trump protests
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Thanks for the outlook Krim, it is interesting to hear.
Here is an update on one of the British Ukrainian soldiers who was captured in Mariupol a couple of years ago now. He was lucky in both surviving it and getting a deal to be released from Putler's jail back to the UK:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13478375/amp/British-Aiden-Aslin-meets-Putin-target.html
He's managed to keep a hold of his limbs so far and has recently written a book about his time in jail. I suspect he was in more of a support role with the Azov battalion (some who are still in jail) as I think he did similar for a short time with the Kurds if I remember rightly. The odds of ending up as the remaining force in the Azov steel works before eventual surrender being one of not so many of course.
He seems to have done since deliveries of supplies to the front since but looks like he mainly is now with his fiancée around the Lviv region of Ukraine.
Show that luck can deal very different hands in war. So far aside from unpleasantries he seems to be doing ok. Other British guys of course have gone out there and either lost limbs or lost their life completely. So getting involved in a war can be a real gamble.
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CNBC News article on I saw on Yahoo (I have yahoo email) So there is no reason to
get triggered then lose your mind.
Trump to speak with Putin after U.S. pauses some weapons shipments to Ukraine
http://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/03/trump-putin-russia-ukraine.html
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Trench, it's NOT luck that your survival depends on
your susvival depends on your own knowledge and skills (of which you have learned ZERO)
there's a good reason why you lack confidence Trench
becuz you''ve never DONE ANYTHING to gain confidence in yourself
each success is a platform you build on for the next success
if you happen to be someone with NO knowledge, and NO skills and little ability or opportunity to learn them
then just stay home, and watch old BSkyB reruns and be content with this couch potato slacker lifestyle
which I'm sure you are quite happy to do
IMHO, it's the only lifestyle option you have
how different are you from a teenager, who does some menial job, and plays video games all day
ohhh yeah, Trench, yur a real catch, aren't ya?
don't overcome any obstacles in your path, or even try to
do the bare minimum, just barely enough to get by
I totally see why someone like you would't venture into Ukraine right now
fear, uncertainty, doubt, laziness, indifference always determines the choices you make Trench
I keep pointing this out to you Trench
in the hope you can see the mistakes yur making and change yurself
alas...poor Trench
well Beel, i'm sure it was a "perfect phone call" between Putin and Trump
only the truth, and nothing but the truth, and never any lies
NEVER...
how many times has Trump cut off aid to Ukraine, the first time was to force Ukraine to fabricate "dirt" on Biden
it's ALWAYS quid-pro-quo with Trump, not to benefit the USA's interests, but for Trump's direct benefit
you must've forgotten this quote from Trump Jr.
"In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets," Trump Jr. said during a conference in New York in 2008.
Trump Crypto currency simplifies the bribery
Putin can now directly buy $Trump and/or $Melania crypto from his own bank without having the hassle of laundering through real estate
and since Crypto is anonymous, there won't be any pesky property records to reveal the corruption
Google "Felix Sater" and you can see how the Russian Trump Real Estate money laundering machine works
and Putin already owes Trump PLENTY, for "services rendered"
yur cnbc blurb does nothing at all to counter what I wrote previously
and fails to mention, Trump unilaterally removing sanctions on Russian banks tied to Putin
you think that's just a coincidence?
especially, when I predicted he would do this
if you do, then YOU my friend, are the one who has lost his mind
mine already ran away to a "safe zone" i'm a mental refugee, and not a physical one
I only wish I can see the look on yur face, when the coming Trump Shit Storm known as "The Big Beautiful Bill" is gonna pour all over you
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Trench, it's NOT luck that your survival depends on
your susvival depends on your own knowledge and skills (of which you have learned ZERO)
there's a good reason why you lack confidence Trench
becuz you''ve never DONE ANYTHIN to gain confidence in yourself
if you happen to be someone with NO knowledge, and NO skills and little ability or opportunity to learn them
then just stay home, and watch old BSkyB reruns and be content with this lifestyle
which I'm sure you are quite happy to do
IMHO, it's the only lifestyle option you have
don't overcome any obstacles in your path, or even try to
do the bare minimum, just barely enough to get by
I totally see why someone like you would't venture into Ukraine right now
fear, uncertainty, doubt, laziness, indifference always determines the choices you make Trench
I don't lack confidence, knowledge or skills. I probably lack knowledge and skills in the right areas to make a lot of money but most people on this earth do also otherwise we would all be rich. So that is nothing unusual.
I don't go to Ukraine as I don't need to go to Ukraine at the moment. I have a Ukrainian girl already so being in Ukraine would do nothing for me other than to potentially expose me to the risk of being hit by a missile, drone, etc.
If I didn't have a Ukrainian girl with my place finished and rented out and a bit of money in the bank I would go there and take the usually far lesser risk of a civilian in a place far from the front line out there and date the local women. Some of the British guys have got it wrong who go out there if they are trying to play the hero role to get a girl it is not necessary. If they are doing it for lack of anything happening here, excitement, a genuine wish to help, etc and put their lives on the line for it then it's down to them.
For me I see it as trying to minimise risk and aim for maximum gain. I know life can deal anyone a shitty hand at any time and I see no sense in calling that on unnecessarily.
I would put it to you Krim as to why you aren't out in Ukraine? With a full blown war on I would have thought you would be in your element. It would seem to be the excitement you love but you are avoiding it. Not even a trip out there to be there at any point during the war? The war is passing you by without you featuring in it at all, even away from the front line in Ukraine. Even old Gaunty when he was knocking around on this board went in to rescue some relatives whilst the Russian Army was closing in around Kyiv and lived to tell the tale. You can't go to Russia understandably but why not see what you can do in Ukraine?
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why aren't I in Ukraine?
cuz I'm a geezer and at this stage of my life, I'm pretty much DONE with the whole phuqueing world
I served in two militaries, and developed advanced Radar systems for Raytheon/Rafael in Israel
I have medals, awards
and THINGS I can NEVER, EVER talk about with ANYONE, even my family
now I'm a slacker, just like you
and every bit as happy being a relaxed, carefree slacker as you are
nothing at all to motivate me to go ANYWHERE
cuz I already have EVERYTHING I NEED in life
and a hell of a lot I don't need
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Aren't you just a little bit bored? Fancying a bit of excitement?
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tomorrow, I'll be setting off a ton of fireworks, some of them homemade
and I have cases of 5.56mm and 7.62mm ammo to shoot-off into the forest behind my house from machineguns I own
then I'll get high and go tacke a nap
I'll wakeup and then my wife will feed me
for a dewd my age, it doesn't get any better than this
the downside to being a FORMER Sicario
are all the ghosts who haunt me
of all the lives I helped snuff out
all the bad things i've done, made the world a darker place
I didn't care, cuz I had my own trauma and anger to deal with
I was always doing the devil's work for others
that was the bargain I made
each man will have to deal with the devil his own way
you have a choice, you all do
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If I didn't have a Ukrainian girl with my place finished and rented out and a bit of money in the bank
Did you finally finish your remodeling project?
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Did you finally finish your remodeling project?
Just about 2-3 weeks away now from the last few small bits being done :D
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the history of WWI Trench Warfare
is punctuated by each side mounting "breakout offensives" to try and end the years of stalemate
Putin is mounting such a breakout in September, all the signs are there
he's built up his reserves for a breakout
and he's receiving 50,000 NEW North Korean Soldiers plus replacemnts for those already lost as a contribution towards his plan
this is why Putin is getting Trump to do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to weaken Ukraine before the breakout offensive, in exchange for Russian $$$ to buy his crypto
Trump ONLY does things that benefit Trump
I think it's quite amusing Republicans think Trump does ANYTHING for the nation's interest, when he is totally dedicated to his own personal interests
kinda like what Putin does
Trench, do you realize that you are in your "Peak Earning Years"
what kinda "peak" are we talkin about
how does it compare to some random teenager, who's working a minum wage job
and you claim you have knowledge and ambition
where do you keep this vast treasure of yours?
your peak earning years will be over soon, and then it's all downhill from there
I imagine that means yur retiremnt pension will be miniscule
Reality, Trench, Reality
you barely make enough for ONE person to live on
no phuqueing way you are EVER gonna make enough to support a family
part of the secret to making money is to "work yur ass off"
instead of workin hard, yur hardly working
merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream
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Trench, do you realize that you are in your "Peak Earning Years"
what kinda "peak" are we talkin about
how does it compare to some random teenager, who's working a minum wage job
and you claim you have knowledge and ambition
where do you keep this vast treasure of yours?
your peak earning years will be over soon, and then it's all downhill from there
I imagine that means yur retiremnt pension will be miniscule
Reality, Trench, Reality
you barely make enough for ONE person to live on
no phuqueing way you are EVER gonna make enough to support a family
part of the secret to making money is to "work yur ass off"
instead of workin hard, yur hardly working
merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream
My income will be going up soon as a result of renting my place out, that and a few more hours at work. Additionally I am going to try to develop another stream of income. My girl brings in a small amount of income. In the UK there is more support for families than in the US, free education, free healthcare, free dentistry for children, and done child benefit money, etc.
I'll get the standard State Pension which isn't bad in the UK, you can live off it. In addition I might get the Pension Credit on top. Other than that it can always be topped up with some part time work.
That is all a way away as I won't get the State Pension until I'm 67. In general it is good to have children in the UK as the government won't let them starve or be out on the street - and that means as a parent you won't either. All the homeless people are usually young single men followed by everyone else thereafter. Those with children are deemed a housing priority so they are never without a home in the UK even if it's just temporary accommodation.
I intend to do better than relying on the state for housing though of course, but as a base layer it's better than being homeless. No gender equality there for young single men lol.
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you're gonna live out yur life as a Dicken's novel?
aye, here's poor little Tiny Timmy Trench, a poor wee street begger near Hereforsdshire
"can ye spare any change, me brother"
you amaze me once more Trench
a fellow of infinite jest
yeah, go have some kids for the welfare benefits
smart idea, no worky worky for Trench
just ka-ching for creating Tiny Timmy Trench
and the ghosts of Christmas past
PS
lack of understanding on my part
if you "rent your place out"
where are you gonna live?
I can see you contemplating this question
then slapping yur forehead
"DOH! I never thought about that"
Ruh-oh - time for scooby snacks
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It's whatever works at the end of the day. There are many people here that either never work or rarely work and have family all on the State. The State provides rent free social housing if they are not in work, it pays them unemployment benefit, it pays them child benefit, etc virtually everything is free for them lol.
I'm not saying that is the way to live but that is the bottom rung of society in theory and living isn't too bad. Some of those on the social even invest their benefit money on Crypto and try to get rich quick.
With a house the maths should work out. We can live in part of the house and rent a room out to a lodger for extra income, possibly even two lodgers. I could even end up with a house full of Ukrainians if I rent out rooms to them lol. When hosting arrangements come to an end here after 6 months, 1 year or so then some move into rented accommodation if they can't find another host which is increasingly becoming more difficult now.
So I could become known as the local saviour of the Ukrainian people :D
Give old Schindler a run for his money ;D
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does yur mansion have separate bathrooms/kitchen for the lodgers, or everyone shares yours?
lovely....
now, I see....
minimum wage job, dodgy lodgers, and welfare, is the sum of your ambition
you REALLY DO have the world all "sussed out" Trench
Elon Musk better watch out for Trench, he's building a competing empire
the reason yur "home improvements" took so long, was due to an absence of money to finance it
I would've advised you to get a "HELOC" and finish the work early
then use the lodgers to pay off yur HELOC
and you would've been done, long, long ago, and yur balance sheet MUCH IMPROVED this way, compared to the years you've taken, for what are likely minimal changes
but you missed that opportunity, like every OTHER opportunity you miss
PS
of COURSE, Trump is lying about why he's cutting off Ukrainian aid
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/hegseth-halted-weapons-ukraine-military-analysis-aid-wouldnt-jeopardiz-rcna216790
Trump TOLD hegseth to cut-off aid to Ukraine
to hurt Ukraine, AS MUCH AS HE POSSIBLY CAN, before Putin's "Break-out" planned for September with gazillions of gopnicks and North Koreans and Shahad Drones
you Ukrainians KNOW where the Shahad factory is, droneify it
Trump's relationship with Putin, is strictly quid-pro-quo
Trump in public office, doesn't owe the public anything, Trump ALWAYS works for Trump
and whatever $$$ Trump can SCAM, will come at a cost to the public who voted for him
just like Putin
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does yur mansion have separate bathrooms/kitchen for the lodgers, or everyone shares yours?
lovely....
now, I see....
minimum wage job, dodgy lodgers, and welfare, is the sum of your ambition
you REALLY DO have the world all "sussed out" Trench
Elon Musk better watch out for Trench, he's building a competing empire
the reason yur "home improvements" took so long, was due to an absence of money to finance it
I would've advised you to get a "HELOC" and finish the work early
then use the lodgers to pay off yur HELOC
and you would've been done, long, long ago, and yur balance sheet MUCH IMPROVED this way, compared to the years you've taken, for what are likely minimal changes
but you missed that opportunity, like every OTHER opportunity you miss
Each bedroom now has a separate Ensuite. There are now three bedrooms in the house where before there was just one bedroom. So valuable in the UK as it means income can be gained from each extra bedroom. Most bedrooms for rent don't have an ensuite toilet so it should be quite enticing as I think a lot will appreciate being able to use the facilities at all times of the day and night without having to troop through the house to the bathroom except to hand a bath/shower. Potentially lodgers could keep a microwave and mini fridge in the rooms so as to have their own basic cooking & food facility aside from the kitchen.
A lot of work has gone into changing the house. I think if I paid others to do it, it would have been find quicker but would have been a little more expensive, to very expensive for a small house. I get where you are coming from and you could be right. I definitely wouldn't want to embark on doing this type of thing again, I have learnt a lot but yeah time over again taking a more financial route could have been a better choice.
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yet another of my predictions about Putin's war has been fullfilled
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ramps-up-chemical-attacks-with-wwi-choking-agent-as-putin-blitzes-kyiv/ar-AA1HYM1R?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=ea4b68f811d343789da15269d098aeb6&ei=59
this will keep increasing, and if no western response, no "red line" then it's gonna kick it up a notch with Novichok
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The Russian Hoax
http://x.com/i/status/1941165363192037688
what effect has Trump's cuts to the federal government, like for instance the National Weather Service produced?
any problems?
well...glad ya asked!!!
http://archive.is/mjsVV#selection-497.44-497.70
dozens of little girls died in an unforecast massive rain/flood at a Bible Study Camp near San Antonio, Texas
that was built right on the edge of a river on the worst flood plain in the USA
when I bought property in Texas, I referenced a topographical map, and I bought property on the highest point in the county
common sense 101
all yur prayers did NOTHING at all
when just 10 minutes of ACTUAL THINKING would've saved every one of them
oh well....
dozens of little white christian girls dying in an un-announced monsoon like flood is a tragedy
but 51,000 people dying from losing their medicaid health insurance is a STATISTIC just like Stalin said
http://ldi.upenn.edu/our-work/research-updates/trump-senate-bill-seen-causing-51000-preventable-deaths-annually/
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My income will be going up soon as a result of renting my place out, that and a few more hours at work.
If you aim low, you will hit low. When I was a young man I worked for my father making $1.25 an
hour. I got a job at a restaurant and doubled my money. I kept switching jobs always making more.
I lost everything I owned during the 2008 crash, even though it took over a year and a half for my
last kopeck to turn into dust.
So what did I do? I started over in the oil fields of Norf Dekody. I lived in a camp trailer in a dirt field
in bumF#cky ND -40F in the winter. I lived there when I flew to Russia to eventually meet Angel Eyes.
I didn't stop, I never stop. Wyoming, Colorado and now in Texas. Continually jumping to better and
better opportunities. Angel Eyes hitched her wagon to me and have made more money every year.
You are aiming at the lowest possible rung on the ladder your big plan is to stay on the bottom wrung
but stand on your tippy toes?
Renting out a room in your house isn't a plan. I've made more money than you in every job I've ever
had since 1988. My 35 year old son has never worked for less than you in his entire working career.
Raise your sites higher and an FSUW good girl will stand beside/behind to help and support in every
way. Aim for the absolute minimum, then a man with more ambition will be noticed when he comes
along.
Aim higher, a lot higher, women are biologically, chemically and prehistorically predisposed right down
to their DNA to seek and compete for the higher performing men. The fatties, the disfigured and the
disabled are the ones who are destined for the bottom rung.
Make a better plan.
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dozens of little girls died in an unforecast massive rain/flood at a Bible Study Camp near San Antonio, Texas
that was built right on the edge of a river on the worst flood plain in the USA
You think Gawd would have saved them.
Not good for the female to male ratio later in life.
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If you aim low, you will hit low. When I was a young man I worked for my father making $1.25 an
hour. I got a job at a restaurant and doubled my money. I kept switching jobs always making more.
I lost everything I owned during the 2008 crash, even though it took over a year and a half for my
last kopeck to turn into dust.
So what did I do? I started over in the oil fields of Norf Dekody. I lived in a camp trailer in a dirt field
in bumF#cky ND -40F in the winter. I lived there when I flew to Russia to eventually meet Angel Eyes.
I didn't stop, I never stop. Wyoming, Colorado and now in Texas. Continually jumping to better and
better opportunities. Angel Eyes hitched her wagon to me and have made more money every year.
You are aiming at the lowest possible rung on the ladder your big plan is to stay on the bottom wrung
but stand on your tippy toes?
Renting out a room in your house isn't a plan. I've made more money than you in every job I've ever had since 1988. My 35 year old son has never worked for less than you in his entire working career.
Raise your sites higher and an FSUW good girl will stand beside/behind to help and support in every
way. Aim for the absolute minimum, then a man with more ambition will be noticed when he comes
along.
Aim higher, a lot higher, women are biologically, chemically and prehistorically predisposed right down
to their DNA to seek and compete for the higher performing men. The fatties, the disfigured and the
disabled are the ones who are destined for the bottom rung.
Make a better plan.
You've had a tough life and worked hard Bill. I hadn't realised that you had things that way. It no doubt was hard in that trailer in such bitterly cold weather but you did well to hang on in there.
I don't know how you lodge all of your money in the credit crunch of 2008, maybe you lost your job, had money invested in something hit hard by the credit crunch or both. Bad things can happen in life and take us unawares but you did good not to let it get you down as it must have been hard times.
I think though that there is another aspect here, you say you Mads more that me since 1988 but lost it all in the credit crunch. So you possibly ended up making more money with that leading you to taking more risk. You then lost it all to taking more risk but perhaps those who hadn't made more money but stayed with less risk ended up in a better more stable position at that time.
If you have had a woman then and you lost it all many women walk out on their man in such situations particularly if it's easier to find another man it's an easy thing for them to do to jump ship. It happens during many recessions that women walk out on men who are no longer doing well even with the kids lol. They can be nasty I guess. I get what you are saying that there is potentially always the competition. Again it can depend on how easy it is for a girl to upgrade, for some girls less so as they age and/or how they are. Having a girl who is highly desirable on several fronts isn't always a good thing. What I've learnt along the way here is not to get too hooked on the idea of holding onto one girl as if your life depended on it. She is just one possibility of many possibilities in life. That even if a girl did leave me that there are many other women out there in the FSU and elsewhere who I could hook up with and potentially be happy.
I won't just be sticking with my job and renting out my house I'm just saying that my financial situation should be picking up then🤞
I'll have extra time on my hands so it will make sense to try and do something with that extra time to do work with and try and find another stream of income. My job is fairly resistant to AI so although it's minimum wage it's a fairly safe bet and many jobs in the UK are low pay anyway. My girl is attractive looking but she is around 30 or so, so while not real old is out of the very actively red hot late teens to mid twenties dating scene.
So things are going ok at the moment, life is life so I can only hope things will keep going ok and life won't bite me on the bum as it can do so. On that front just keeping up with work and working on myself will hopefully help to avoid that along with trying to make sensible decisions.
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Russia to Involve Laos Troops in Its War Against Ukraine. Here’s What We Know
Kremlin is organizing the deployment of up to 50 Lao sapper troops to clear landmines
in Russia’s Kursk region under the guise of humanitarian assistance, a move Kyiv says
is intended to legitimize the presence of foreign combat-support forces on Russian soil,
as stated in the latest Ukraine’s Military Intelligence Directorate (HUR) report.
“Russia, hiding behind humanitarian rhetoric, is trying to legalize the presence of a
foreign military contingent on its territory, effectively using it to support combat operations
against Ukraine,” the intelligence directorate stated.
In addition to the mass recruitment of mercenaries from African and Asian countries
and units from North Korea, the Kremlin is exploring the possibility of involving so-
called partners under the pretext of implementing humanitarian projects in Russia’s
border regions with Ukraine.
There is more read all about it here
http://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-to-involve-laos-troops-in-its-war-against-ukraine-heres-what-we-know-9643
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Trench,
well, at least you won't be sharing a bathroom with yur lodgers
but...
if they don't have separate entrances, then they will share yours
and you will lose more than just privacy
what if Tiny Tim Trench, a poor wee defenseless lad, is home without mommy or daddy
and the lodgers are there?
now do you KNOW what you're trading in exchange for yur lodgers
yur NOT ACTUALLY MAKING money
yur just selling yur privacy and security
and yur not counting this loss, against the gain
IMHO, a poor exchange
I stopped living with room mates 40 years ago
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North Korea to Triple Troop Presence in Ukraine, Backing Russia With Up to 30,000 Soldiers
http://united24media.com/latest-news/north-korea-to-triple-troop-presence-in-ukraine-backing-russia-with-up-to-30000-soldiers-9576
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You've had a tough life and worked hard Bill. I hadn't realised that you had things that way.
It no doubt was hard in that trailer in such bitterly cold weather but you did well to hang on
in there.
I don't know how you lodge all of your money in the credit crunch of 2008, maybe you lost
your job, had money invested in something hit hard by the credit crunch or both. Bad things
can happen in life and take us unawares but you did good not to let it get you down as it
must have been hard times.
There was a perfect storm of conditions, I had my own company, I lost more than $3 million
(but less than $4 million) I spent 4 years in North Dakota but only 3 winters in that trailer.
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There was a perfect storm of conditions, I had my own company, I lost more than $3 million
(but less than $4 million) I spent 4 years in North Dakota but only 3 winters in that trailer.
Wow, I am shocked that you owned all that money! Or did you not own it so much as to just lose it somehow? Difficult usually to lose that much money and not easy to get over. With money such as that you could have had many women flocking to you. I'm guessing you didn't tell the FSW upfront you lived in a trailer? Lol, imagine what their reaction would be :D
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Trench,
well, at least you won't be sharing a bathroom with yur lodgers
but...
if they don't have separate entrances, then they will share yours
and you will lose more than just privacy
what if Tiny Tim Trench, a poor wee defenseless lad, is home without mommy or daddy
and the lodgers are there?
now do you KNOW what you're trading in exchange for yur lodgers
yur NOT ACTUALLY MAKING money
yur just selling yur privacy and security
and yur not counting this loss, against the gain
IMHO, a poor exchange
I stopped living with room mates 40 years ago
Mostly the house I designed to rent the rooms out. It's not really my home as such but a long term investment. Hopefully I should be able to get TV's in all the rooms as well so in theory minimal time would be needed outside of the bedroom if so wished for. We will see how it goes, as with a lot of stuff one step leads to another so a bit of putting up with stuff can be necessary at times, not a -40 degrees in a trailer like 2tallbill putting up with it but some kind of small sacrifice.
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Russia could be faced with a credit crunch and even their banks failing soon:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-26/russian-banks-fear-debt-crisis-is-coming-as-war-strains-economy
With Russian people and businesses struggling to pay their loans meaning that increasingly Russian banks are holding more and more bad debts and less and less loan repayment income.
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Wow, I am shocked that you owned all that money! Or did you not own it so much as to just lose it somehow? Difficult usually to lose that much money and not easy to get over. With money such as that you could have had many women flocking to you. I'm guessing you didn't tell the FSW upfront you lived in a trailer? Lol, imagine what their reaction would be :D
Trench I was shocked at what you make (or don't make). I've never had problems finding women who were
interested in me. I never told women how much I make, why would I lead with that? The best way to catch
a gold digger is to use money as bait.
Losing everything is tough but I have already made money before, so I can and will do it again.
I told women that it was difficult in North Dakota, that the weather is worse than in the FSU.
A good girl will hitch her wagon to you and go over the Oregon trail to make a new life. So
I went looking for a good girl. Pursuing FSUW ain't for sissies.
This is all way off topic about the Struggles in Ukraine.
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Good for You, Bill! I also think the person who makes money just knows how to do it even after losing it.
And yes so true about flashing money during dating! I even know stories where a man was spending like crazy
during courtship and ended up in a lot of debt which hi sUkranian wife had to help pay off after she came here.
Needless to say she divorced him as soon as she could