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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1825 on: February 21, 2025, 12:51:14 PM »
everyone always NEEDS to see the world from other's perspectives
your paranoia, created a false image, and created a problem
but don't overlook her role in NOT being honest with you either
which INCREASED your paranoia

chaos is not a good thing
things that go up
can also come down

monsier Willy is still guiding you
and the "sunk cost" paradigm

what about the next miscommunication?
with so many mixed signals - what's the REAL message?


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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1826 on: February 21, 2025, 12:56:04 PM »
a Russian woman's sense of humor is not like a Western woman's, I can't comment on French women, French women were ALWAYS "passive/agressive" with me, and I didn't like it
so I left them alone, even though as a group French Women, were SUPER intelligent and not at all bad looking, and needless to say culinary  and domestic skills were "superb"
but they were also VERY bi-polar
hence...avoir....

Russian women, have a crude sense of humor
but ya do HAVE to be able to KNOW how to make a Russian woman laugh...
if ya don't then she's gonna be "bitchy" towards ya
ya disrupt that by making her laugh
ya discover what makes her laugh by "trial and error"
but it's usually something crude and vulgar

after a combination of alchohol and increasing intimacy
when one of ya steps out of the shower, naked and the other innocently walks in
it's a very short climb to get up to the point where you put some of that "counter-rotation" on her "suger plum"
there's NO WAY she's gonna tell ya to stop
and if she "comes hard"
then, YOU can lead her around, the way she's leading you around

you each have this power over the other
so you'll have to decide, which one of you is dominant, and which submissive
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Interesting post         
I had incredible laugh with my last GF who liked sex intensively
After a long match, 
We were naked in the room and looking the windows of my neighbour and thinking 
of his poor and lonely Willy and that went very crude and vulgar
and we almost died of laughing, and she was not the last talking. 
For humor I also had  to find my way by trial and errors. 
« Last Edit: February 21, 2025, 01:04:05 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1827 on: February 21, 2025, 01:16:22 PM »
everyone always NEEDS to see the world from other's perspectives
your paranoia, created a false image, and created a problem
but don't overlook her role in NOT being honest with you either
which INCREASED your paranoia

chaos is not a good thing
things that go up
can also come down
     
monsier Willy is still guiding you
and the "sunk cost" paradigm
     
what about the next miscommunication?
with so many mixed signals - what's the REAL message?
 
Interesting.
This post needs to be remembered.
My paranoia created a problem, probably yes, and more definitively yes.   
               
"but don't overlook her role in NOT being honest with you either"   Ok I keep this in mind. But honesty is for the moment not a word I would choose at this stage.   
     
"chaos is not a good thing, things that go up, can also come down"   I do agree, well said.         
         
"monsier Willy is still guiding you,and the "sunk cost" paradigm" 
No, you are barking the wrong tree from the beginning and keep repeating the same stuff.
             
what about the next miscommunication? with so many mixed signals - what's the REAL message?     
It could be yep. I would even say why so many mixed signals and so we come back to what you wrote before 'but don't overlook her role in NOT being honest with you either"   
It needs time to be figured out. Good point here.
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1828 on: February 21, 2025, 02:19:23 PM »
everyone always NEEDS to see the world from other's perspectives
your paranoia, created a false image, and created a problem
but don't overlook her role in NOT being honest with you either
which INCREASED your paranoia
   
chaos is not a good thing
things that go up
can also come down
 
monsier Willy is still guiding you
and the "sunk cost" paradigm
   
what about the next miscommunication?
with so many mixed signals - what's the REAL message?
 
     
mixed signals:   
Previous guy still in her head and she don't totally mourns him. 
That's could be what you call "dishonest".   
But she wants me to be on the ladder and she put quite a lot of efforts to keep me on it, and when a FSU woman let you on the ladder you are officially allowed to climb it until commitment and intimacy except she expresses otherwise. 
She knows that saying the truth will make me leave.   
We also know that FSU women have a higher brute force to "vaccuum" to Uranus the previous "bad" boyfriend, it's why you don't find any cemetery of ex boyfriends in FSU, while you find plenty of this in the west on women's side at least.   
         
That's my best explanation, and this why she has tried to play the watch, and still probably will do it until she has really cleared her mind. So you are right,   
1/ I don't know the real message, I am just supposing it   
2/ There will be some other blanks to digest           
             
I still firmly believe that the guy came just after the first meeting, fuck her for good but she was already in the process to end this because she was on the dating site BEFORE. 
Some information of what she told me helps me to believe this I don't want to unveil, and her body language was slightly different towards me between the first and second meeting. 
Pretty sure that the guy came between our two meetings. 
           
Do you think we are spot on Krim? I know what you gonna to say next Krim, a battle has been won but the war is not over
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I do agree on this one also.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2025, 02:40:57 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1829 on: February 21, 2025, 02:48:32 PM »
something...what...I don't know...came between you two...
the fact that you ALSO DON'T REALLY KNOW or understand the true nature of the core of this problem
is the reason why I suggest NOT to play this game in the first place,
because of HOW MUCH you don't know in this game with her, that makes your "risks" go up
a game with rising risks, is not a smart one to gamble in
instead...
play a game where you pretty much know EVERYTHING
which gives you the LOWEST RISK

and by knowing EVERYTHING ahead of time, you ALWAYS are assured a SURE THING for the outcome, because you can predict the outcome with NO DIFFICULTY

so ya want a simple woman, and not a complicated one
you want a rough unpolished stone, a diamond in the rough

yur a prospector
yur a hunter

not some lovesick Romeo
ain't NOBODY GOT TIME for that

and lemme tell ya funny story
my neighbor in Sevastopol had a college aged daughter
for a young Russian woman, facially, she was WELL BELOW AVERAGE and very shy because of it
but because she was my neighbor's daughter, I used to give her little presnts
I never really saw her without heavy winter clothing
until one hot day on the beach
I was walking, and she called out to me
I turned around, and there was this hot looking girl, with a super athletic hard body wearing a tiny thong bikinni with the same plain lookin face on top
and she was smiling at me like a little puppy wagging it's tail

my friends, I coulda tapped that
but I didn't have permission, cuz in Russia, you don't shit next to where you eat, I mean...right?
cuz ya know that'd blow up when mama or papa found out
and papa was a minor oligarch

so I said, "Willy don't you EVEN THINK about it"
but this kinda stuff, happened to me ALL THE TIME there
in the summer, I had to fight them off with a stick
the 30ish single women were worse than siberian mosquitos
they wanted to suck...my blood...

willy, I said, "lead us not into temptation"
while I spray you with repellant
ya know, he really only ever thinks about just one thing, above all else
not the sharpest tool in the shed

if I tell my wife what he's up to, my wife will "discipline" him
and, as part of the bargain, I get to collect a "reward" for turning him in
so that's how my wife keeps willy and me "in line"
instead of ignoring the problem, she solves the problem, with a very pragmatic and handy solution and doesn't "jerk around"


 





 
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1830 on: February 22, 2025, 08:31:59 AM »
First, because of all the burden of international dating (I have already given some details about this) 
you are more than likely to easily loose your control (add a translator between you and her and so you have an idea how things can easily been screwed up).     
So be always polite. I have found that it's very important in the FSU life, especially with educated FSU women (and a lot have a high education).   
If you were using some kind word, like "honey", "kitty" DO IT. 
One of my favorite mistake, I tend to HARDEN my communication when I am not happy, bad, my bad 
 :deadhorse:   

So the basis of ABCD technique (the JEEP technique is very close), which is basically geared towards manipulative people applied 100% to normal life situation.   
                       
The first step is to NAME and to describe what happens, in order to break the ongoing behavior
The second step to express how YOU feel about this, it's not about to make the other guilty. This is very important
The third step is to propose an alternative, a solution you would like to be found
The fourth step is to describe the new emotion associated with this new behavior. 
     
So how does it translate in my case. (we are far from the scenario first scheduled: sending all the program of the travel, asking some info for delivery, then adjusting my communication on her).   
   
First I made a special mention, and that of prime importance, especially if she is new with foreigners. 
Honey, Dear, Kitty put whatever you use to here. 
We are from 2 different cultures. That usually create some difficulties. For example I talked about your ongoing divorce and your venue in Moscow possible linked to this. In fact my skills in Russian don't allow me to know if you are divorced or if you are still in the process (just an example.
   
A Her name, I see that you ignore most of my messages. And you keep some distance with a lot of emoji/ Hi / how are you?                             
B Consequently I feel uncomfortable. It looks like you don't really care about me. It has stopped me to the envy to invite you in my country for the moment.
       
C I you would tell me more about you and invest more time in our communication             
                   
D I would feel a better connection, more respect, and I will therefore be more confident that we start a healthy relationship. I was believing  you wanted a serious relationship.... 
 
Please note that the last sentence is not exactly neutral and a little manipulative (my bad in terms of pure clean communication). 
   
The results? OUTSTANDING next post
I come back on this one because this message is totally pivotal
 There are two sides on this message 
The first one had been well explained I think.
Overcome a miscommunication, wrong doing, asking for change or to find a compromise in a relationship. 
That was the first side
 
The second one shows that you have some bones and you stand your ground, you are not desperate. You are capable
to set up the limits but still staying very open, friendly, polite and respectful, it highlights those points: 
 
Speaking your mind 
Decision leadership 
Setting standards and expecting them is showing that you are not afraid of losing someone because she don't meet your expectations. 
The paradox is showing your expectations,  the more attractive you become and she tries to qualify. 
Setting boundaries with women (when it's used correctly) establishes leadership, status, and masculinity


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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1831 on: February 22, 2025, 08:49:24 AM »
There is also I wanted to talk, and here we are back in the game. And if all those mixed signals about me not have proven enough value? So she didn't make her mind about me?   
   
I am keen to drop some elaboration from David DeAngelo.
 I like his soft seduction based especially on the cocky funny comedy (be careful to never take every words of what he writes on the FSU dating scene, you will crash in few minutes).     
How and Why Women Test Men 
• If it was critical that you found out what another person's TRUE character was like, how would you do it?
• What if the stakes were VERY high? What if you HAD to be sure that you were right? 
• The obvious answer is to create character tests for the other person, administer the tests yourself, and never tell the other person that you were TESTING them in the first place. 
• When a woman is considering getting involved with a man, her GENES have programmed her to make sure she's making a good choice. They've given her a way to TEST men.
• What do a woman's genes want her to look for? Dominance, drive, poise and composure, the ability to provide for her and a family, etc. She wants a man who maintains CONTROL of himself and his surroundings (not to be confused with ‘controlling’). • How do women test for these things? By challenging, pushing men to wits end, changing plans at the last minute, playing hard to get, being demanding, and expecting special treatment. 
• How can you pass these tests? By living in your own reality, and seeing her as a guest, rather than the other way around. • Turn everything she says around, handle every test effortlessly, and make any problems she presents into her own limitations that you point out, Joke about, judge her for, and generally say “Well, it's your loss...” or, take tests and preempt them with objections or obstacles of your own.
   
You would think (men), why we need this shit?
 :ROFL: You don't have the choice  :P
 It's like they work. Want to ignore it? So you fail and no dessert at the end of the diner  :devilish:   
Her stake? Her destiny, you couldn't make higher stake no?   
Selection process mates obliges 
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1832 on: February 22, 2025, 08:54:57 AM »
Pat and others . . . sorry to be repetitive, but . . . I never had any of these thoughts and concerns in my WMVM trips.

If any woman raised any red, purple or yellow flags or gave me any cause for concern . . . then they were simply dropped from the cohort.

Too many women availalbe (and too many men available for the women) to try to work with anyone who raises issues in our minds.

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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1833 on: February 22, 2025, 09:01:22 AM »
Pat and others . . . sorry to be repetitive, but . . . I never had any of these thoughts and concerns in my WMVM trips.

If any woman raised any red, purple or yellow flags or gave me any cause for concern . . . then they were simply dropped from the cohort.

Too many women availalbe (and too many men available for the women) to try to work with anyone who raises issues in our minds.

P.S.  My birthday will be 27th, so if anyone wants to send me money I can furnish my PayPal email address.  Around $55,000 needed for the Lincoln SUV that I want.
 
   
$55,000 needed for the Lincoln SUV that I want
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Barking up wrong tree
« Reply #1834 on: February 22, 2025, 09:59:51 AM »

No, you are barking the wrong tree from the beginning and keep repeating the same stuff.
 

Wow . . . a Frenchman mentioning 'barking up the wrong tree.'
Pat, I admire you picking up USA slang.
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« Reply #1835 on: February 22, 2025, 10:24:27 AM »
.     
I had incredible laugh with my last GF who liked sex intensively
After a long match, 
We were naked in the room and looking the windows of my neighbour and thinking 
of his poor and lonely Willy and that went very crude and vulgar
and we almost died of laughing, and she was not the last talking. 
 

A gal from Kharkiv rode train to meet with me in Kyiv on one of my WMVM trips.
Not the best idea to bring in a distant gal as they are often exhausted.
Same with her, so she went to bed early and I wasn't expecting much in the way of sex . . . perhaps ever on her weekend visit.  I always have two bedrooms, so we didn't spend night together. 

But somewhat early next morning, I heard her calling my name.
Walked into her bedroom, she threw covers back and said:  "Come to me!"

She had PhD, but was working for an electric company rather than in academia and had only 5-6 English skills.

After the first round of sex, we were naked in the bed and me asking the possibility of her taking off a month for a later visit to Turkey or some such 6 months down the road.

We weren't making much progress in understanding each other regarding possibility, timing, etc., but she did understand about a trip.

She kept mentioning how she was a real favorite to her boss, since he relied heavily on her.  So I am saying thngs like:  So he probably wouldn't let you go for a month.  Then she replies how he really likes her and we go round and round again.

Then finally, it makes sense to me what she is saying (he likes her so much and wants to keep her, so he will let her do most anything she wants), and I say:  OK !

With that word . . . she let out a huge breath and fell backwards naked on bed laughing.  (this led to a second round of sex . . . but I was 20 years younger then !! )
 
She then says (continuing laughing):  We have 6 univ degrees between us, and it took us 15 minutes to understand each other about a possible trip!!  :-)

Note:  As it turned out . . . I later met a much better candidate on this WMVM trip, so this gal and I never met again after her weekend visit.
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1836 on: February 22, 2025, 09:10:08 PM »
Russians are now very "Class conscious"
a Russian woman in Thailand, is not lower class, or middle class....
even if you are financially "above her"
she may still "look down" at you

this might be the mysterious bête noire
money is the root of all evil, n'est pas?

I was in that position when I was younger, with older rich women, but a very different dynamic
fun to be the object of desire when I was "white and fluffy" and be fully devoured by horny middle-aged women
and then go home after a nice breakfast

that just evolved into breakfast at home prepared by a Russian woman that I captured "over there" and brought back here
phuque porn, microwaved frozen food, and dirty floors
I haz me a Russian woman who has replaced all that
she can be a bit "surley" and swears like a Russian sailor, which is fine, cuz that's REALLY helped to improve my Russian speaking ability, she's my "sleeping dictionary"
in 'Nam, GIs would get a local woman, for the same purpose, domestic labor + dictionary

now, don't have that "stuffy" look on yur face
these kinda relationships have the same dynamics as any other

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Re: Barking up wrong tree
« Reply #1837 on: February 23, 2025, 06:20:00 AM »
Wow . . . a Frenchman mentioning 'barking up the wrong tree.'
Pat, I admire you picking up USA slang.
   
Thank you ML, I have just skipped "up".
Will remember it for the next time thank  ;D
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1838 on: February 23, 2025, 06:47:42 AM »
Russians are now very "Class conscious"
a Russian woman in Thailand, is not lower class, or middle class....
even if you are financially "above her"
she may still "look down" at you

this might be the mysterious bête noire
money is the root of all evil, n'est pas?

I was in that position when I was younger, with older rich women, but a very different dynamic
fun to be the object of desire when I was "white and fluffy" and be fully devoured by horny middle-aged women
and then go home after a nice breakfast

that just evolved into breakfast at home prepared by a Russian woman that I captured "over there" and brought back here
phuque porn, microwaved frozen food, and dirty floors
I haz me a Russian woman who has replaced all that
she can be a bit "surley" and swears like a Russian sailor, which is fine, cuz that's REALLY helped to improve my Russian speaking ability, she's my "sleeping dictionary"
in 'Nam, GIs would get a local woman, for the same purpose, domestic labor + dictionary

now, don't have that "stuffy" look on yur face
these kinda relationships have the same dynamics as any other

Za Mir Moy brat

Krim I think that you are very close.  :thumbsup:
 I was talking to the people I was daily with in Thailand this morning, so they were aware about a lot of my dating situation during the action.
And you are right that could be the mysterious bête noire.
But to be frank, and I am very humble about this, but rather than to look me down, chances are more that she looks me up. 
Don't want to enter en details about all my accomplishments, my name having 400 years, and many many stuff like this, involved in sport competition in an European level (very difficult) and I didn't even talked to her about this one, just the other 34 races I have performed.
In the same time, she went from prestige to retirement, husband bailed out, last BF very likely high class Russian kind of not serious about her IMHO. So you come to the conclusion at 45 as a mother of three, that it is maybe time to find someone more stable and settle down.                 
I remember the story of my aunt, a beautiful lady who married a man at 24. he was doing well but suddenly he became really rich due to an impressive in heritage.    She adored him, but he had a lot mistresses and was constantly off the radar. She had enough and divorced late 30 or maybe around 40 and settle down with a teacher, he was not exactly the simple teacher at school because he was teaching at the university and he was this man. And she followed him faithfully until he died two years ago. She is 90 now.         
I could be totally wrong, we will see.                   
Maybe she is richer than I, including her family in Russia, and she is testing the water from the scratch to sort me out 1/aside her beauty 2/aside her fortune. But I see no point a woman needing to work if she had built enough, or family is rich enough, to have to work in Thailand     
But I feel something, you are right, about some pride about the shining past (the fear to be judged) versus a very genuine and natural girl.when she faces me.  It could explain why she still don't want to tell me which job is she doing, her irritation me writing in English rather than in Russian in our first exchanges telling me "if you want to wait me to learn English then paka" (lol)...
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1839 on: February 23, 2025, 06:56:14 AM »
a woman that conceals and hides so much from you, IS NOT really serious about you, other than for sex
YOU are NOT the most important thing to her
you just give her sex and that's it, you're easily replaceable
you have to take it or leave it

she can be your "re-bound girl"
like an intermediary, someone you date, just to get you back in the game and then you "move on"
THIS is what gets you primed for the next one, that's the whole purpose

THE NEXT ONE IS THE ONE TO FOCUS ON

only look for Russians in the lower classes, they are MUCH less complicated, and easier to handle and understand
greatly simplifies things
now you understand WHY that is
don't assume lower class means they're stoopid and uneducated, that's NOT TRUE
someone from the Russian lower class, means YOU get rid of this type of money/class issues

with experience comes knowledge and wisdom
and yur a French Intellectual, so "no worries mate"

but seriously, The Marquis DeSade and his Russian "Servant Girl"  OMG!!!
if you haven't read it....I envy being able to read the original French version with all of DeSade's "innuendo" I'd really struggle reading through it
same thing with reading original Marx in German

the Marquis was my inspiration
the story of the undressing of a helpless young Russian servant girl
and thoroughly inspecting "every inch" of her
is the last thought I'm gonna have before I die
IT'S THAT GOOD!

when I first read that story, I had no idea that what the Marquis actually wrote, was a "how-to" guide for western perverts like me in Russia
ka-ching!!!

inspecting a naked Russian woman......like she's in a Tatar slave market
ahhhhhhhhh

all you incels have NO CLUE about life, so please spare me from quotations from yur boring Jordan Peterson lectures
becuz you know NOTHING...and that's WHY you have NOTHING
you like Peterson, cuz he calls you "victims" and that's like numbing cream for yur hurt fee fees
and instead of working and doing, you just smear numbing cream all over ya so ya don't feel the pain

I can tell all you incels are SICK!
cuz ya got a dummkopf
gesundheit!!








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« Reply #1840 on: February 23, 2025, 01:13:18 PM »

only look for Russians in the lower classes, they are MUCH less complicated, and easier to handle and understand
greatly simplifies things
now you understand WHY that is
don't assume lower class means they're stoopid and uneducated, that's NOT TRUE
someone from the Russian lower class, means YOU get rid of this type of money/class issues

with experience comes knowledge and wisdom
and yur a French Intellectual, so "no worries mate"

but seriously, The Marquis DeSade and his Russian "Servant Girl"  OMG!!!
if you haven't read it....
I envy being able to read the original French version with all of DeSade's "innuendo" I'd really struggle reading through it
same thing with reading original Marx in German

the Marquis was my inspiration
the story of the undressing of a helpless young Russian servant girl
and thoroughly inspecting "every inch" of her
is the last thought I'm gonna have before I die
IT'S THAT GOOD!

when I first read that story, I had no idea that what the Marquis actually wrote, was a "how-to" guide for western perverts like me in Russia
ka-ching!!!

inspecting a naked Russian woman......like she's in a Tatar slave market
ahhhhhhhhh

all you incels have NO CLUE about life, so please spare me from quotations from yur boring Jordan Peterson lectures
becuz you know NOTHING...and that's WHY you have NOTHING
you like Peterson, cuz he calls you "victims" and that's like numbing cream for yur hurt fee fees
and instead of working and doing, you just smear numbing cream all over ya so ya don't feel the pain

I can tell all you incels are SICK!
cuz ya got a dummkopf
gesundheit!!

Are you sure it's really by Marquis de Sade? Apparently Marquis de Sade was locked up for much of his life in France, travelled to Italy apparently once and that was about it. What book is this in? Part of his works of fiction?

Jordan Peterson has a wonderfully raspy voice, just draws you in lol.

Well, I think career girls can be difficult from the FSU. The more higher class girls in the FSU probably have high expectations. Sone seem to know little more than the more closeted world they got brought up in in my opinion, i.e different from most FSU people and they may stick to others of a similar class is the impression I get. Most FSW are no doubt not so much career girls but the ones that are tend to suffer from some of the issues Western career woven have who are of course pretty numerous in the West.

Lower class FSW may be easier in sons ways but I think be aware of the more street wise, manipulative ones, kind of like how you might be careful of someone cunning from social housing in the UK, France, US, etc who may try to be a bit too cunning I would say.
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1841 on: February 23, 2025, 01:57:10 PM »
oh oui monsier!

the Marquis ened up with syphillis and went mad and was "put away"
that was kilograms of drugs ago, my recollection is fuzzy, google is yur friend
I try VERY HARD to forget things...drugs are useful for that..but they don't discriminate memories very well
so ah sometimes forget the wrong stuff





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« Reply #1842 on: February 23, 2025, 03:49:26 PM »
oh oui monsier!

the Marquis ened up with syphillis and went mad and was "put away"
that was kilograms of drugs ago, my recollection is fuzzy, google is yur friend
I try VERY HARD to forget things...drugs are useful for that..but they don't discriminate memories very well
so ah sometimes forget the wrong stuff

Can't find anything on Google about it at all, the Russian Servant Girl thing. Perhaps you could copy and paste some of it here?
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1843 on: February 23, 2025, 05:52:55 PM »
sorry mate, haven't read any of that "stuff" in decades...
DeSade's Father was a French soldier/diplomat who traveled to Russia, that must have influenced him
he was also a child soldier like me, we were both the same age, when our fathers handed us over for training
soldiers always become sadists to some degree
they NEED to enjoy what they do, it's motivating
and only motivated soldiers get promoted


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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1844 on: February 23, 2025, 06:03:40 PM »
desade invented modern nihlism, nietzsche and dostoyevsky copied him

God's nonexistence reduces the universe to a purely materialist Nature, an autonomous "machine"
There is no afterlife, so your conduct does not matter.
morality is relative to culture and geography, and is therefore transitive
Nature is our only ethical guide; humans are no more significant to Nature than insects.

imagine yur a French Soldier in Verdun in 1916
you have found only one book to read, and it's DeSade
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« Reply #1845 on: February 24, 2025, 02:06:13 PM »
 
     
mixed signals:   
Previous guy still in her head and she don't totally mourns him. 
That's could be what you call "dishonest".   
But she wants me to be on the ladder and she put quite a lot of efforts to keep me on it, and when a FSU woman let you on the ladder you are officially allowed to climb it until commitment and intimacy except she expresses otherwise. 
She knows that saying the truth will make me leave.   
We also know that FSU women have a higher brute force to "vaccuum" to Uranus the previous "bad" boyfriend, it's why you don't find any cemetery of ex boyfriends in FSU, while you find plenty of this in the west on women's side at least.   
         
That's my best explanation, and this why she has tried to play the watch, and still probably will do it until she has really cleared her mind. So you are right,   
1/ I don't know the real message, I am just supposing it   
2/ There will be some other blanks to digest           
             
I still firmly believe that the guy came just after the first meeting, fuck her for good but she was already in the process to end this because she was on the dating site BEFORE. 
Some information of what she told me helps me to believe this I don't want to unveil, and her body language was slightly different towards me between the first and second meeting. 
Pretty sure that the guy came between our two meetings. 
           
Do you think we are spot on Krim? I know what you gonna to say next Krim, a battle has been won but the war is not over
 :ROFL:
I do agree on this one also.

         
Considering the last 10 days of communication I had with the lady I am validating this post   
Considering the time spent today with my best oldest friend here in France, talking about this, he is also validating this.       
   
She is into me during the dates, but not during the internet communication. 
There is nothing I can do and worst nothing for the moment she can do by herself IMHO.   
     
So I am ready to let her go, to let it go. Is she wants to go she will go. I she wants to keep up, she will have to do the job and contact me. I have promised to answer. I am fed up enough.
Yep I have feelings for this woman, she is not just a vagina, an amount of dollar, a slut, a slave. She is still a lady in my heart and the field is the real life where you meet new people and have new experiences. New experiences, even unhappy experiences are better than spending time in front of a screen.   
     
My decision is made, I have already written the whole message, now she is just returning from Moscow so I am waiting a little bit before sending it.
     
Technically she potentially could have met again the other guy in Moscow. I have written this on the book, you don't need to tell me. 
« Last Edit: February 24, 2025, 10:32:16 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Operation White Panther
« Reply #1846 on: February 24, 2025, 02:33:03 PM »
you are FREE
to try once more to seek that which is "hard to find"
and now you know where NOT to look
so look else where
lookin for love in all the wrong places
lookin for love in too many faces

the right place
the right woman
the right time

when everything aligns
then PEACE will guide the planet
and LOVE
it is the dawning of
the age of aquarius

there is nothing NOBLE about feeling superior to your fellow man
what is ennobling is feeling superior to your "former self"
that which does not kill you - only makes you stronger and elevates you
use that DOWN to later help you go UP

bon chance monsier phantomas
do you know inspector Poirot? he's one of them "Belgies" i like the delicate way he sips his tea
very amusing

winter is over, gators will be coing out soon
ah could score me a mid-sized one, and sent gator skin to my Mexican bootmaker
ain't no huntin permits required, just bust a cap between his eyes
boots and maybe a handbag

i'll have to read on how to BBQ gator, never done it, only seen it done,  it's good eatin
gator and a water melon
moonshine and watermelon rine

you could rop some in the river next to cologne, germany
and it'd be water melon Rhine

please doncha all laugh so loud, it hoits my ears


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« Reply #1847 on: February 24, 2025, 02:36:19 PM »
There is nothing I cannot do and worst nothing for the moment she can do by herself . . .

Do you mean . . . nothing I can do ? 

she can do by herself . . . you mean use of vibrator ?  :-)
     
she is not just a vagina but she has one . . . right ?  :-)

even unhappy experiences are better than spending time in front of a screen.  not sure I agree with this 
     
now she is just returning from Moscow returning to where ?
     
Technically she potentially could have met again the other guy in Moscow.
So you are sure there is a Moscow guy . . . and how have you ascertained this as a fact, not just an assumption ?
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« Reply #1848 on: February 24, 2025, 10:31:25 PM »
you are FREE
to try once more to seek that which is "hard to find"
and now you know where NOT to look
so look else where
lookin for love in all the wrong places
lookin for love in too many faces

the right place
the right woman
the right time

when everything aligns
then PEACE will guide the planet
and LOVE
it is the dawning of
the age of aquarius

there is nothing NOBLE about feeling superior to your fellow man
what is ennobling is feeling superior to your "former self"
that which does not kill you - only makes you stronger and elevates you
use that DOWN to later help you go UP

bon chance monsier phantomas
do you know inspector Poirot? he's one of them "Belgies" i like the delicate way he sips his tea
very amusing

winter is over, gators will be coing out soon
ah could score me a mid-sized one, and sent gator skin to my Mexican bootmaker
ain't no huntin permits required, just bust a cap between his eyes
boots and maybe a handbag

i'll have to read on how to BBQ gator, never done it, only seen it done,  it's good eatin
gator and a water melon
moonshine and watermelon rine

you could rop some in the river next to cologne, germany
and it'd be water melon Rhine

please doncha all laugh so loud, it hoits my ears

when everything aligns
then PEACE will guide the planet
and LOVE
it is the dawning of 
the age of aquarius
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« Reply #1849 on: February 24, 2025, 10:37:55 PM »
Nothing I can do, corrected, Thank ML.   
Between avoiding to live and living with the associated pain my choice has long been done. I go forward and fight but not unnecessary.   
She is back to Thailand. 
The other guy is a Russian IMHO, where is he right now I don't know. So I make only assumptions yes but the fact is that she has not mourn the previous guy, that's not an assumption anymore now due to the low level of interest she gives me online almost all the time, and especially since the famous "friend" visited her two days after our first appointment. She made some efforts due to my message formatted in A/B/C/D/ (see previous posts) in Moscow but that didn't last too long.   
     
So if she don't want to invest herself in a relationship there will be no relationship         
That's fine for me I will use my time because I am plenty busy and never bored.
 I will be back to Thailand because it cuts the winter and there are so many bonuses. Additionally I start to know some people.
 
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