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Offline John Gaunt

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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #125 on: June 07, 2021, 04:25:33 AM »
I didn't exactly retract it just became apparent that there would be no chance as far as UK Visa crowd were concerned. I never realised that it was such a fixated thing in her mind or that she was taking it all in such a literal way as that it should be done in a set order. I never really took it off the cards just that there were other more immediate options to go to first in terms of meet ups, etc. The fact that she was so rigid in her mind took me by surprise.

There were other issues of course, the clothes spending being the main one. I didn't mind buying her a few things but it was too dominant in her mind that it was ruining the relationship. I should have been firmer with her and that was a mistake in my part.

She had some good sides that I might not have fully appreciated looking back but my lack of experience dating FSW particularly like her messed any chance up of the relationship working.
I think one thing you have to factor in is that a lot of fsuw don’t look at money as something to be stashed away or to budget for things. They have a more immediate way of handling money which is to spend if they have it. That, of course translates into something different for WM and may come across as somewhat mercenary.

If you ever want to marry an fsuw, you will have to negotiate this difference in managing and spending money and reconcile yourself to having to compromise, otherwise, you’ll be in difficulties from day one.

It’s been oft stated but financial issues are a major factor in marital breakdowns as a norm but with fsuw it can take centre stage.

It’s just a fact, fsuw like to spend, on clothes, their hair, make up, spa treatments, manicures, pedicures, massages, cosmetologists, food fads, you name it and it’ll be on that list.

It’s not necessarily a bad thing because you will always have a well turned out lady on your arm.

There’s no point saying that you won’t do this or that or the other and scrimp and save here and there to avoid paying a few quid.
You won’t be in charge.



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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #126 on: June 07, 2021, 07:13:27 AM »
I think one thing you have to factor in is that a lot of fsuw don’t look at money as something to be stashed away or to budget for things. They have a more immediate way of handling money which is to spend if they have it. That, of course translates into something different for WM and may come across as somewhat mercenary.

If you ever want to marry an fsuw, you will have to negotiate this difference in managing and spending money and reconcile yourself to having to compromise, otherwise, you’ll be in difficulties from day one.

It’s been oft stated but financial issues are a major factor in marital breakdowns as a norm but with fsuw it can take centre stage.

It’s just a fact, fsuw like to spend, on clothes, their hair, make up, spa treatments, manicures, pedicures, massages, cosmetologists, food fads, you name it and it’ll be on that list.

It’s not necessarily a bad thing because you will always have a well turned out lady on your arm.

There’s no point saying that you won’t do this or that or the other and scrimp and save here and there to avoid paying a few quid.
You won’t be in charge.

What John says is possibly true for a lot of FSU gals.

I happen to have one of the few that it does not apply to.
She does not spend on the items John mentioned.
She is all about scrimping and saving here and there.
She likes to see our savings and investment accounts growing.

One funny story she tells (that she really can hardly believe that she actually did it)

She was carrying $55,000 in USD from a bank to a building company as partial payment on a new
unfinished apartment.  She had no escort.  She did not call a cab.  She was going to take a tram, but instead decided to wait for a mini bus to save a couple of hryvna.
A beautiful woman is pleasant to look at, but it is easier to live with a pleasant acting one.

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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #127 on: June 07, 2021, 07:22:35 AM »
What John says is possibly true for a lot of FSU gals.

I happen to have one of the few that it does not apply to.
She does not spend on the items John mentioned.
She is all about scrimping and saving here and there.
She likes to see our savings and investment accounts growing.

One funny story she tells (that she really can hardly believe that she actually did it)

She was carrying $55,000 in USD from a bank to a building company as partial payment on a new
unfinished apartment.  She had no escort.  She did not call a cab.  She was going to take a tram, but instead decided to wait for a mini bus to save a couple of hryvna.
There is some truth in that as well.
Some fsuw will go out of their to be thrifty and save a few grivnas here and there but think nothing of splurging hundreds of dollars on a new model phone.

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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #128 on: June 07, 2021, 07:25:07 AM »
What John says is possibly true for a lot of FSU gals.

I happen to have one of the few that it does not apply to.
She does not spend on the items John mentioned.
She is all about scrimping and saving here and there.
She likes to see our savings and investment accounts growing.

One funny story she tells (that she really can hardly believe that she actually did it)

She was carrying $55,000 in USD from a bank to a building company as partial payment on a new
unfinished apartment.  She had no escort.  She did not call a cab.  She was going to take a tram, but instead decided to wait for a mini bus to save a couple of hryvna.
When generalizing there’s always the prospect of being confronted by an outlier.

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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #129 on: June 07, 2021, 08:39:19 AM »
I think one thing you have to factor in is that a lot of fsuw don’t look at money as something to be stashed away or to budget for things. They have a more immediate way of handling money which is to spend if they have it. That, of course translates into something different for WM and may come across as somewhat mercenary.

If you ever want to marry an fsuw, you will have to negotiate this difference in managing and spending money and reconcile yourself to having to compromise, otherwise, you’ll be in difficulties from day one.

It’s been oft stated but financial issues are a major factor in marital breakdowns as a norm but with fsuw it can take centre stage.

It’s just a fact, fsuw like to spend, on clothes, their hair, make up, spa treatments, manicures, pedicures, massages, cosmetologists, food fads, you name it and it’ll be on that list.

It’s not necessarily a bad thing because you will always have a well turned out lady on your arm.

There’s no point saying that you won’t do this or that or the other and scrimp and save here and there to avoid paying a few quid.
You won’t be in charge.

Great post
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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #130 on: June 08, 2021, 05:57:16 PM »
I think one thing you have to factor in is that a lot of fsuw don’t look at money as something to be stashed away or to budget for things. They have a more immediate way of handling money which is to spend if they have it. That, of course translates into something different for WM and may come across as somewhat mercenary.

If you ever want to marry an fsuw, you will have to negotiate this difference in managing and spending money and reconcile yourself to having to compromise, otherwise, you’ll be in difficulties from day one.

It’s been oft stated but financial issues are a major factor in marital breakdowns as a norm but with fsuw it can take centre stage.

It’s just a fact, fsuw like to spend, on clothes, their hair, make up, spa treatments, manicures, pedicures, massages, cosmetologists, food fads, you name it and it’ll be on that list.

It’s not necessarily a bad thing because you will always have a well turned out lady on your arm.

There’s no point saying that you won’t do this or that or the other and scrimp and save here and there to avoid paying a few quid.
You won’t be in charge.

Yeah one thing she was into was clothes fashion not the really high-end stuff but mid range brands sometimes even unbranded stuff if it looked nice but it all adds up. Anyway, one day we went to an outer city shopping area in Kiev. She sorted me out a more casual suit, a shirt & jeans. Turns out she is pretty good with colours and what works and what doesn't. In all honesty I didn't have a clue about colours when it came to clothing I just usually stick with the blacks, navy's and grey's mostly, so playing it safe. Those colours tend to go with our climate more at least in the Autumn & Winter but upon reflection can look out of place and even bad looking in more warmer sunny weather, a lot of black often being the worst. So in truth she looked good and I likely better than usual lol. Anyway, yeah a girl that knows how to make you & herself look better dressed and hence come across decently has some worth to it even if it costs a lot of worth I guess.

That said of course it can be a real drain if someone is all spend, spend, spend. You actually surprise me JG you have more knowledge & experience of FSW than I thought ;) Back then I took it differently that she was just into me for the stuff I was buying her was a thought that cropped up into my mind a lot and the more stuff I bought and she wanted the more it took a toll on the relationship in my mind at least. I didn't realise that, that was the mentality of some FSW out there. I knew inflation meant she found buying clothes hard and that often meant spending money rather than saving before it becomes worth a fair bit less. I guess with a lot of accommodation still being free or cheap rent tower block stuff there is little to save it for anyway so might as well spend it and cheer oneself up.

Anyhow, the culture difference there took its toll a bit as I think probably neither of us had much grasp or realisation of the cultural differences of the other. I need to keep money back for property, investments as in the UK that is necessary to doing well and living well in comfort, some money is spent but I try not to let the spending outpace the saving at least not often. The landlady of the flat we were staying in upon hearing the problem suggested that I set aside an allowance for her per month or week. Probably a good idea but at that time we were too early on in the relationship and later she was resistant to the idea while on holiday as it would probably cut down on her spending.

Anyway, for me a high maintenance girl. She was a pretty girl  and had her good sides. I think part of the issue was that a lot of spend is lumped in the man out there, not just for the expensive items but for the many smaller everyday stuff that might not cost a lot but can make you feel like you're just spending all day at the tills. I know some FSW are more frugal, the first girl I met in Kiev kept pushing for me not to leave a tip in the restaurants we visited as if I was just throwing money away. So mentality can vary, the girl I met in Minsk made a point that a tip should be left lol, so little to predict it.

So looking back I should have been firmer with Kherson girl, I probably thought too badly of her for wanting the stuff she did and early on in our relationship but it was really down to me to make it clear that, that would be later on in the relationship and see if we could get to know each other better first. Long term I think you are right JG that she would have the spend mentality and that wouldn't be going away and something to either come to terms with or something that would destroy any marriage or LTR.
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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #131 on: June 15, 2021, 02:51:56 PM »
TC-

Forget Ukraine.

Forget Germany too when I told you to hunt for Alica Schmidt. She's always sweaty. Probably stinky, too!

Instead, grace your presence in California (if now) or Croatia...and git busy and woo Ana Vidovic

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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #132 on: June 15, 2021, 03:07:43 PM »

Holy smokes! Mother-of-mercy!! LOVE those fingers!


With those fingers, she is supposed to be a pianist.
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Re: Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #133 on: June 15, 2021, 03:38:45 PM »
With those fingers, she is supposed to be a pianist.


She'd be so perfect if she just took the time to shave off her moustache. It kind'a takes a little bit off the hotness.


I'm modifying this, so as not to appear 'crass', as she's a phenomenal talent. At the 53:00 minute mark on the video above, she played Isaac Albeniz's Asturias. It's enchanting how she can play that piece sounding as though multiple guitars are being played at the same time.
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Third Time Lucky in Kiev
« Reply #134 on: July 03, 2021, 08:11:02 AM »
There is some truth in that as well.
Some fsuw will go out of their to be thrifty and save a few grivnas here and there but think nothing of splurging hundreds of dollars on a new model phone.

Yes they will, BUT they will know every single feature and difference between every
make and model. They will know down to the pixel which phone has the best camera,
they will examine the cord on the charger and know the battery life as well as which
ring tone sounds the best. They will know how many photos they can store on it and
which phone has the most expansive display.

They will splurge hundreds on the phone maybe one that they don't even need, but
not without shopping the hell out of it.

ALSO that phone will have a dead battery when you need to get hold of them.
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FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
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